Andy Furman Bucky Brooks and Mike Harmon talk College Football Week 3, NFL Week 3 Preview, Baylor @ Colorado, and So Much More!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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One NFL coach will be better off losing. We'll explain
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dot com the way tire Byron should be here we go, Buck.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Are you ready?

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Let's get it going because I want to get this
out of the way right now, all right?

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Can I do that? I hate to ruin the day.
I hate to do this to you.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
I gotta get out of the way because it's one
of those things like the elephant in the room. You know,
I'm talking about North Carolina. What the hell happened yesterday?
I thought it was a basketball game. They lose seventy
to fifty two. I didn't want to say it, James Madison,
I mean, really what happened?

Speaker 3 (00:56):
And then your coach, Mack Brown says that he would
walk away if he was the problem.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
That is big and the players rallied. The radam said no, no,
it would was their fault and can you explain something
like that? How do you lose to James Madison.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
One is one of those games that if you're North
Carolina you really shouldn't take on because James Madison is
good at the level where they play at. Their team
that scores a lot of points, they have a high
powered offense, they had a really good quarterback who's a
dual threat.

Speaker 5 (01:25):
And look, man, it was.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
A perfect storm mistakes, miscues, their excellent execution overwhelmed Carolina
early and.

Speaker 5 (01:35):
By the time they were I guess kind of back
on their.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
Feet, they were down by so many points there was
just nearly impossible to come back.

Speaker 5 (01:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
I just really felt bad for coach because he's a
good man and for him to do that after the game,
and that's huge.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
I mean, have you ever seen a coach do that
just take full response. I mean a lot of them
in the locker room and postgame news conferences they'll say, yeah,
it's on me, you know, But he basically said he
would walk away. He'd walk away right there, and it's amazing.
Really never saw that before.

Speaker 5 (02:05):
Well, you know, the one thing that's surprises him.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
To me about that is like Coach Brown typically always
talks about not being really emotional, right, not making emotional decisions,
not being one to.

Speaker 5 (02:19):
Do things kind of on a whim.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
And so I'm really surprised that, you know, when the
conversation came out about a coach, Brown said that, you know,
he'll walk away, He'll step away.

Speaker 5 (02:29):
From the game. That's not his mo. He normally is
one who really kind of measures himself and do it.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
But as he's getting older, he has taken losses harder.

Speaker 5 (02:41):
And look, man, he doesn't like lousen.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
You talked about a Hall of Fame coach, a guy
who's had a lot of success at that level. He
doesn't like lousing And I think it just it's worrying
on him far more than it used to. And he
just has to understand how to handle those things and
not make.

Speaker 5 (03:00):
It what it was, which is now like a huge
conversation piece.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
Boych sure is.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
And speaking of losing, I did say coming into this
segment of Today that maybe one coach is better off losing.
I'm talking about Dan Campbell. Did you hear this story
about Dan Campbell now selling his house in Detroit because
his home address was leaked to the public, and he
his family became victims of pranks and harassment after some
tough losses of the Detroit Lions. And look, that was

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like last year's NFC Championship game as well. And I
said to myself, wait a minute, this guy has taken
the Detroit Lions on his back, picked them up and
made them relevant. Okay, how come Matt Patricia, Rod Marinelli,
how comes Steve Matrucchie. They never had to move their
homes and they couldn't win. Mott Patricia thirteen and twenty
eight as a coach, Rod Marinelli ten and thirty eight,

(03:47):
Steve Mariucci fifteen and twenty eight. They never had harassment.
Why is Dan Campbell getting harassment? I don't get it.
I really don't. I don't understand the mindset of fans.
I really don't.

Speaker 5 (04:00):
What happens is you have fan bases that kind of
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
They take it for granted, right, they take the success
of the coach for granted.

Speaker 5 (04:11):
They don't.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
They begin to get spoiled by the accomplishments in those things.
And the Detoit Lions who have been down for look, man,
they've been down for a long time. They should celebrate
what Dan Campbell has done. He got them on the verge.
I mean, look, I'll be honest, I'll say it. They
should have went to the Sooo Bowl last year because
they played better than San Francisco forty nine ers in

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the NFC Championship Game.

Speaker 5 (04:37):
But didn't close the deal. So that's on them.

Speaker 4 (04:39):
But yeah, he is taking them to that point, and
yet they don't.

Speaker 5 (04:43):
Have a great appreciation for it. Yeah, that's a bit
of a problem for me.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
It's amazing, it really is.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Now I'm gott to go one step further. For some reason,
I am hooked on Deonne Sanders. I mean, I'm watching
football yesterday most of the day, flipping back and forth.
I figured, made this Tennessee Oklahom game is going to
be pretty good.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
It got out of control. Tennessee just rolled over and
you never usually see as soon as losing and losing
like that they did in Norman.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
They did last night. So I flipped back to the
Colorado game. This is one of the greatest games I've
ever seen. I'm not kidding. Really, Colorado went over time,
beats up on bail of thirty eight to thirty one,
and again. I think I have the same mentality as
a lot of these TV executives. You got to keep
on putting Colorado on TV. Initially, I looked at the
TV listings yesterday, I said, Colorado's on again.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
I bet Baylor, all right, I'll give it a shot.
It was one of the games of the day, really
and truly, I think it may have that in the
Michigan game, may have been the two best games of
the day.

Speaker 5 (05:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:40):
No, you know's what's funny about that is there have
been all these reports that have come out of late
about you know, the ratings have gone down, there's a
little Dion fatigue, and the ratings are down from the
ridiculous numbers that he posted last year.

Speaker 5 (05:57):
But those numbers are still higher than what most people would.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
Get on the daily basis, and so you have to
give him credit for that. The other part that now
you have to give him credit on is look, they
were able to win the game, you know, like this
was this was a situation where they were down schaduur Thos,
I mean, unbelievable, Hail Mary rolling to his left and
firing that Hail Mary. For Colorado fans, they know that

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because they remember Cordell Stewart throwing it down the field
and having success. I think it was Michael Westbrook that
he hit on a hail Mary years and years ago.

Speaker 5 (06:31):
But to see.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
Chaduur come down with that and then for them to
win on a game look a game ending force fomble
by Travis Hunter, who also had one hundred and thirty
receiving yards. You can say a lot of things about Deane,
but what he didn't do is he didn't mislead us
about the level of talent that his people, his stars have.

(06:52):
Shadur Sanders is the star and Travis Hunt is the star,
and that's why you tune in to watch Colorado.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
Did Travis Hunter make a big step, a big leap
yesterday for the Heisman Trophy. I believe he did, you know.

Speaker 5 (07:04):
I think so.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
I think I think, you know, the thing about it
is still trying to really understand how much two way
ball he plays and and.

Speaker 5 (07:13):
All of that.

Speaker 4 (07:14):
But yeah, I think there is definitely a great appreciation
for his ability to make things happen and how he's
able to do it. So yeah, I do think he
took a step towards being a Heisman Trophy finalist now
if you for him to win it, he's going to
have to continue to do some spectacular stuff. I think
he has like five straight games with over one hundred
yards receiving.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
I think, yeah, I'm sorry, he's.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
Gonna have to He's going to have to continue to
put up numbers like that because it's a quarterback award.
So he has to make sure that he does enough
that all the people respect him in that regard.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yes, to he caught seven passes for one hundred and
thirty yards, and on defense he had three sacks or
three tackles and a forced fumble. And really and truly,
I don't think anybody else in football is doing anything
like he's doing right now and again, and when I
say this this, Dionce, believe me. I don't have Deon
Sanders fatigued. But I don't recall in the last five
before he came there, I don't remember Colorado being on

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TV as much as they are now.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
Am I mistaken? Maybe I just didn't follow them. I
don't think that happened.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
No, they hadn't been I mean they hadn't been any good.
I mean they had a couple of years under the
previous coach. I want to say McIntyre where they won
championships to Pack twelve championship and then they feel hard.

Speaker 5 (08:25):
After that, they had a series of coach coaching changes.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
Mel Tucker left, Cardrel took over, and that kind of
created the program in terms of the energy and all
of that. But now now they're back, they're back up.
Everybody understands who they are and why they're on TV,
and they're beginning to get some players or play to
the point where you do respect what they're doing, you

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do respect how they get down.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
It really is.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
It's crazy, really And then I watched Michigan yesterday. I
was the heck of a game. Michigan came back twenty
seven to twenty four. But if you look at the
stat line, you may have thought they was to game
thirty two yards passing. I mean, they go back to
the old three three yards and a cloud of dust.
They just ran the football. That's exactly what they did
in the Big House yesterday. And the Khalil Mullings, this
guy scored the winning touchdown the Wolverines of Michigan and

(09:13):
rushed for two hundred and ninety yards thirty two passing yards,
seventy nine yards on the final drive and this kid
Mullings got all eight carries, broke through a pair of tackles,
had that sixty three yard drun that set up Michigan
in the red zone, and then he finished off the
field with a one yard.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
Scoring dive on fourth and goal.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
But about thirty five seconds to go, Michigan wins that
ball game.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
Big win over eleventhrank USC Big Yeah.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
For sure, Mark suron Moore, this was about getting back
to basics. You know, the first couple of games that
you watched Michigan like it did nothing like the team
last year, and you don't expect him to because they
lost a lot of the personnel. But stylistically, there's an
expectation that this team was going to run the football.
They were going to continue to beat the Michigan that
we've seen in the past, and that is how that.

Speaker 5 (09:57):
They were going to kind of roll their way through
the Big Ten.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
Perhaps after a disappointing loss, they decided to get back
to it. Change quarterback, put David Orgy in, who's a
great athlete, not necessarily a thrower, and they stuck to
their roots, which is running the football. And I thought,
what was telling fourth and goal down at the two
yard line. They had to make a decision on what
they were going to do, and I wanted to know

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because in those moments, you're defined by your identity. If
you are a power running team, then you do something
that is related to the power run game. They lined up,
they ran the power, they scored touchdown, and to me,
that kind of reaffirms what he believes in in terms
of Michigan football being a dominant run team.

Speaker 5 (10:42):
I think from here on out you're going to see
them lean heavily into the run.

Speaker 4 (10:46):
Whether they know that everyone's going to line up to
stop it, I think they're going to arrogantly try and
run the ball down people's throws, and.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
They certainly did yesterday. You talk about changing quarterbacks.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
What about Oklahoma Yesterday Jackson ounald this Kiud was heralded
as like a five star recruit coming to Oklahoma out
of Dallas, Texas. They pull him in the second quarter.
They lose to Tennessee twenty five to fifteen at home.
Earlier in the week, I believe that Oklahoma was an underdog.
I didn't look at the line yesterday prior to the game,
but I don't remember the last time Oklahoma at home

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was an underdog and they basically were man handled by
Tennessee yesterday twenty five to fifteen. They bringing the backup
quarterback Michael Hawkins, who was a freshman. He comes in there.
He had one hundred and thirty two yards passing twenty
two rushing. He brought him back at twelve points. He
brought him back into the game a little bit. It
was twenty five to three and look just a runaway.
And thank goodness, it was because I switched over to

(11:37):
the Colorado games.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
So it was great.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
Yeah, no, I mean being able to switch over to
the Colorado game was great. The Oklahoma thing is interesting
because this is Josh Heipel's return.

Speaker 5 (11:48):
Josh Heipel, to the head coach of Tennessee.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
Was a Valley Hood star quarterback at Oklahoma. Was also
on Bob Seus's staff as an offensive coordinator. Got fired,
and so this was personal for him. He talked about
some of that in the run up to the game,
how personal it was and the disappointment that he felt
in having to you know, leave, you know, a place
where he basically grew up. But for him to come

(12:12):
back with a team that is loaded the volunteers are loaded.
That SEC is going to be fun to watch when
we get a chance to kind of see them go
through the gauntlet. But yeah, Tennessee being legit, Tennessee being
able to take it to Oklahoma was really remarkable to watch.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
It really was.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
It was a pretty good day as today in college football,
just two or three really outstanding games. I'm looking at Michigan,
look at Colorado, and maybe the Tennessee game. Obviously a
lot of eyeballs were watching that, but it wasn't as
good as I thought it would be. And you know,
I lived in Oklahoma's I'm kind of pulling for Oklahoma
a little bit. But they look flat. And to remove
your quarterback, I'm not so certain that's a great move.

(12:50):
I mean, the kid obviously was shaken. He had a
couple of picks, I mean, three turnovers in the first half.
But to take them out at that point in time,
I think that shot as your confidence and men, it
really does. I just think you got to let him
work it through. Maybe I'm wrong. I haven't been a coach,
so I don't know.

Speaker 5 (13:06):
You know, a lot of it depends on.

Speaker 4 (13:10):
Are you short term planning or long term planning, Because
if you're long term planning, then what you do is
you do let them work through it. You do try
to allow him to regain his confidence by playing through
the mess ups and the mistakes, because if you never
allow him to play through those mistakes, he won't develop
that callousness, that tough skin that you have to play
at the first sign of adversity. If he's always tried

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it to the sideline, how is he ever going to
be tough and resilient enough to be able to lead
you to higher heights. Sometimes you know your preadventables and
those guys you have to kind of think.

Speaker 5 (13:41):
Long, long range picture.

Speaker 4 (13:43):
Where do we want to get to down the line,
how do we want this program to eventually look?

Speaker 5 (13:47):
And then you make those decisions in accordance with that.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Thanks it, really I want to tell you about quarterbacks
for seven or go back to Thursday night in the
NFL and the Jets right now all over the Patriots
twenty four to three, Aaron Roddy, I just looked tremendous
to twenty seven to thirty five two ndred eighty one yards,
two touchdowns. My question is this, how in the hell
did the Bengals lose to those page they were terrible.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
I mean, are the Jets that good?

Speaker 2 (14:11):
I know the defense they were blitzing Jacoby prescient and
according to the statistics, they blitted like forty percent of
his drop back, so they really got him and they
put him on the run. But as the highest since
the highest blitzing defense they've had under Robert Sala since
twenty twenty one. But still in all other Jets that good,
I can't believe it. Or there were Patriots that bad

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and the Patriots really look really good because the Bengals
couldn't stop their running game on opening Day when the
Bengals lost to them.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
Yeah no, I mean, look, it's a week to week league,
and Andy, it's funny to see it play out, but
it's a week to week league. One week you can
look like champs, the next week you like chumps, and
you got.

Speaker 5 (14:51):
To bring your a game.

Speaker 4 (14:52):
And obviously short week, the Patriots didn't appear to be
ready to go. The Jets looked like they were on
their a game. Aaron Rodgers is settling in coming off
of like a year layoff from the Achilles injury, and
the Jets were able to get it. But remember, the
Jets are going to go as their defense goes, and
their defense played really really well against an overmatch Patriots team.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Yeah, you know, there's a chart over here. We took
to the college football for a second. Notre Dame did win.
They beat Miami of Ohio Esday beat him a pretty
good And you know, if I'm Notre Dame, you got
that one eye on the school board and look at
Northern Illinois because Northern Illinois beat them, and you got
to hope that they continue to win to make that
loss don't look not as bad as it really was.

(15:37):
So Northern and they got a chart here of the
cost of losing and these guaranteed games in college football.
It's really a funny chart, it really is. Northern Illinois
beats Notre Dame of Notre Dame sixteen to fourteen earlier
this year. Northern Illinois goes over to Check for one
point four mil. That's unbelievable. Really, Memphis over Florida State
earlier this year one point three mil. Toledo beats up

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on Mississippi State forty one seventeen one point two mil.
UNLV beats Kansas twenty three to twenty only seven hundred
thousand montanastep Montana State beats New Mexico thirty five thirty one.
They got three hundred and sixty thousand. But still, these
are the deals. It's got to be a slap of
the face that you're bringing the team. You want to
write a check for a win. That's basically what you're doing.

(16:22):
So what happens that come into your house, they beat you,
and they won't go away with the check.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
That's unreal, It really is.

Speaker 4 (16:29):
Yeah, it's unreal, And people make them a big deal
about that, Like you basically paid the team to come
in and beat you, and that happens. And sometimes to
get people on your schedule, you have to pay money
because otherwise they would they would go elsewhere. And that's
I would call big money problems, big big school problems
where you have to kind of deal with some of that. Yeah,
but I mean you would like to kind of chalk

(16:50):
those up as wins. You kind of have them already
and penciled in as dubs on the on the schedule.

Speaker 5 (16:55):
And it's unfortunate where you don't get it.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
To go your way, right, It really is all right
whether to move on.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
We've got a big day of football today and I
have to wait till tomorrow night when the Washington commanders
come in and Commandos, commanders wherever their name is right now,
I have no idea, but they're coming into Cincinnati tomorrow.
So it's a big deal. You know, when Monday night
football comes into your town, it's really and truly a
big day because people either don't go to work on
Monday or take a half day off, or they definitely
don't go to work on Tuesday because the game ends

(17:21):
after midnight and tanked up. So it's like a four
day weekend in Cincinnati right now. So it's great, it
really is. So we see it. It's a big game
tomorrow as well, so we move on. We got Bucky
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Speaker 3 (18:01):
But is it time to pack it in?

Speaker 1 (18:04):
That's next You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Is it time to wait for next year? Well, we'll
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this is unbelievable. The statistic. I'm gonna run it by

(18:52):
you and tell me what you think. NFL season right
now is about eleven percent finished.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
It really is.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
Nine teams already have about a ninety percent probabil of
not making the Super Bowl. Why Since nineteen ninety, when
the playoffs expanded the twelve teams, just eleven percent of
teams thirty two of tour to seventy nine that started
oh and two have recovered to make the postseason all right,
all right? Since twenty nineteen, two teams out of forty one,

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almost five percent have survived an O and two start.
The teams that O and two and their chances, the Broncos,
the Giants, the Titans, the Panthers, the Jags, the Colts,
the Rams, the Ravens and Bagels. Okay, how many of
those own two teams? Bucket Brooks, are you surprised that,
in fact are oh and two?

Speaker 4 (19:42):
I mean the notable names you talk about it, right,
like the Baltimore Ravens. You didn't expect them to be
oh and two. I didn't straight to Jags to necessarily
be and two. That makes it makes it really difficult
to kind of dig out of those circumstances. Even when
we talk about the Indianapolis Colts, thought that they were
primed and ready for a playoff run.

Speaker 5 (20:02):
When you throw out.

Speaker 4 (20:03):
Those statistics, only eleven percent of teams that start out
being owing to going there. Like, there should be a
level of urgency to start the season. And when you
get behind the eight ball like these teams are, now,
how do you climb out of it?

Speaker 5 (20:19):
That is where it takes great coaching. It takes the
ability to.

Speaker 4 (20:23):
Break the season up in chunks and say, hey, we
can't get back those first two games, but if we
win the next two, it can put us at two
and two. And if we look at the eyes when
you're two and two, they go back up significantly. So
it's really about taking it one game at a time,
within a four or five game window, so you can
focus on small things not big things.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Okay, Now, when you say it takes coaching, I'm not
talking about maybe on way off base, but I'm not
talking about game planning. I'm talking about getting in between
the years with these kids are that you're coaching and say, look, guys,
forget about the record. Let's take one week at a time,
one game at a time, because we got to get
out of this mess. You know, I remember last year
at Bengals, they got it and they started, oh and
two again as they normally do, they didn't make the playoffs.

(21:04):
They had a winning record, but they didn't make the playoffs.
And I think it's a rough situation because it eats
on you, it really does. It's it's a pressure thing
that when you go out, you know you gotta win.
I think sometimes when you're two and zero you play
a little more relaxed.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
I think, just as the way it is.

Speaker 4 (21:21):
Yeah, I mean there's something to that, right, Like, there's
there's something too when you win. I mean, but I
mean it's it's it's nothing crazy to say this, but
like when you win, you gain more confidence, and every
time you lose, you lose a little confidence, not only
in yourself, but in the scheme and what you're doing,
what the coach is saying, and that stuff. Because it's
such a results driven culture, sometimes it's hard for us

(21:44):
to fully embrace the process, the process of what it's
supposed to look like, how it's.

Speaker 5 (21:49):
Going to be to win games.

Speaker 4 (21:52):
I mean, that's that's just kind of the natural field
of at the ebbs and flows of having a team
and trying to build a team up and to being
a champion.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Okay, let's talk about these teams that are owing to
right now, because I'm looking at the Denver Broncos. They
have no shot in hell to make the playoffs. They're
not going to make it.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
They look bad.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Bo Knicks does not look good. He looks like a rookie.
He's completing less than sixty percent of his passes and
this team right now the worst in the league. His
stats anyway for interceptions, only twenty two points on offense.
I don't think they're gonna go playoff wise, do you agree?
I think Denver forget about it not this year.

Speaker 4 (22:26):
Look, I think he's too soon to poor dirt on him.
But yeah, you have a young quarterback making starts as hard,
and I think what we're seeing league wide, it's hard
playing quarterback.

Speaker 5 (22:35):
It's really hard playing quarterback as a youngster. All of
the hype.

Speaker 4 (22:39):
Around these guys during the preseason has completely fizzle because
people have played them differently once they got to the
regular season and they're trying to adapt and adjust to
the pro game. But I wouldn't necessarily dismiss the Broncos
because Sean Payton has won a Super Bowl. Sean Payton
knows how to build a winning team. He will go
back to some things that he has learned along his

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travels to hip this team get right.

Speaker 5 (23:04):
So I wouldn't I wouldn't pour dirt on them.

Speaker 4 (23:05):
Yeah, like it's not a great start, but they certainly
can still finish it the right way.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
And you look at the teams that basically are zero
to two, and you say, what's their weaknesses? Obviously it
points to the quarterback. I'm gonna throw in their three
teams right now. Obviously the Indianapolis Colts. I think right
now you look at Anthony Richardson, inconsistent, no doubt about that.
Tennessee Titans, Will Levis lead leading five turnovers a quarterback.
New York Giants. Here's the big problem of there, because

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this guy is not a rookie, Daniel Jones. And I
think right now when you play the Giants, they don't
even have a threat, let alone Daniel Jones. So you've
got the Giants, Titans, and Colts. I just don't think
those teams are making the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (23:45):
Well, I wouldn't disagree with you in terms of that.
The one team that I put an ask you by
are the Indianapolis Coats. I think they have a better team,
but a lot of it hinges on their quarterback.

Speaker 5 (23:55):
They also have a young quarterback.

Speaker 4 (23:57):
The common denominator with all those situations quarter you got
to get great quarterback play. And by great quarterback play,
I'm not talking about a they put three hundred yards up,
But more so.

Speaker 5 (24:08):
Can they be efficient?

Speaker 4 (24:09):
Can they take care of the ball and make just
a handful of plays that allow you to win.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
I'm gonna talk about, you know, Jacksonville Jags.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
I got Buffalo tomorrow night in Buffalo, and right now,
I'm not going to point the finger at Trevor Lawrence
because you know what you get with Trevor Lawrence. Obviously
he's turn of a prone But obviously the problem this year,
I got to believe is the defense. They haven't made
many big plays. They have no takeaways and that's a
big deal, and they give up a lot that for
or more, plays of twenty yards are more or less

(24:36):
Sunday and two completions beyond sixty yards as you know.
You know that in Week one. So I think it's
the defense that's hurting them more so than Trevor Lawrence.

Speaker 5 (24:45):
Yeah, I disagree with you on that.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
I would say that the defense has played really well
up the stuff you look at points allowed. Look, they've
given her twenty points and then really sixteen points because
there's a two point safety in Week two. The magic
number in the National for Ball League is seventeen. If
you owe most offenses the seventeen points, you're gonna be
able to win game. They're only giving up six. I mean,
with eighteen points on average, that's enough for you to

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be in games. You should be able to win it.
Offensively is where the issues have come from. Not necessarily
from the quarterback, but I would say from the offensive line.
The offensive line has been whooped in back to back games.
You haven't got the playmaking that you want from your
notable guys. So Christian Kirk, Evan Ingram, Travis Ntienne had

(25:28):
some moments, but he fumbled against Miami, which completely turned
a game that would have been twenty four to seven
into a seventeen to fourteen contest because the next play,
Tyreek Hill goes on a shot. It's the little things,
you know, and so they have to figure out a
way to work through them, and they have to do
it while shutting out the noise because the noise is
super loud. It's lot about Doug Peterson it's not about

(25:51):
the quarterback. It's lot about what this team is and
hasn't been. So they have to really concentrate. So this
is one we're coaching really matters because they have to
insulate themselves from the public and just kind of lock
in on what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
What about Trevor Lawrence after that lost to the Browns
last week, he says, we suck right now.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
I mean as a.

Speaker 5 (26:08):
Fan, I mean, they do.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
They do.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
But you know what when fans hear that, they say,
you know what, he's right.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
I mean, you got to love that. You hate that the.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
Team is losing if you root for them, and they're
rowing too. But basically, you know, he knows what's going on,
and you know he's saying he's laying that out there,
and I think that's great.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
I really do.

Speaker 4 (26:25):
It is great, And he needs to do that in
terms of he needs to make sure that he talks
about that and has those conversations with his teammate.

Speaker 5 (26:33):
It's about a.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
Level of accountability and those things, the things that need
to get done. Yeah, so you should continue to talk
like that and be very open and honest and all
of that. That needs to be a big part of
who he is going forward as a leader as he
continues to evolve as leader of the team.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
Okay, the Rams are rowing too, but I tell you
what their problem is. Injuries right now. They got Pooker out,
Jonah Jackson's out. They got so many injuries right now.
It's amazing. Poo Cooper's out. It's just unless they come back,
I don't think they got a shot. But you got
great coaching, there's no doubt about that. They've got the
talent if the talent's on the field. So I'll give

(27:10):
them somewhat of a pass because it's injuries. But the
Baltimore Ravens, that's a shaka. That to me is a
shaker that they rowing too. What's happening there is that
Derrick Henry can't fit into this new offensive scheme, losing
their defensive coordinator.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
What's the problem with Baltimore?

Speaker 5 (27:25):
I was a Baltimore lacks an identity per se. Right now.

Speaker 4 (27:31):
They have a lot of good players, but they don't
have a true feel for how they want to play
in what they want to do.

Speaker 5 (27:38):
And if you.

Speaker 4 (27:39):
Don't have that, it just makes it really really hard
to win in this league. They obviously look, you had
MVP in Lamar Jackson. But if you don't put him
and Derrick Henry and their other top players in an
offense that allows them to play to the stress, then
you're gonna have these issues. Right now, I would say this,

(28:01):
they're not playing to distress as a team, like they
should be absolutely running the football down people's throats, and
they do, but it's more of a cute running game
than the physical running game that they used to be featuring.
And to me, that's a problem. They are not built
to play the way they want to play. They want
to play kind of finess and that stuff, and their

(28:21):
team that needs to play with great force.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
All right, Last, but not least, the Cincinnati Bengals owing too.
I think people are used to them starting this season
like that. But here's what I'm hearing all the time media,
either local or national distractions. You know, contractual things you know.
To me, I don't believe it. Everybody has distractions. I
don't care what profession you're in. You're a salesman, You
come to work, your kid is sit that's a distraction.

(28:44):
You come to work, your wife may be pregnant. You
gotta wait for a phone call any minute. You may
be giving birth. That's a distraction. Everybody in life has
a distraction. Right, you're a teacher in elementary school. Right
you may get a phone call during the day, someone
in your family's sick. You got to run right home.
People have to dictions. I think that when you suit
it up you get on the field, you forget it.
You joined them out you're playing football. You may hate

(29:07):
your teammates, but when you get out there, you're out
there for one common goal to win, and you talk
to the guy after the game. You go your own way.
Am I correct on that?

Speaker 4 (29:17):
I think you would like to be correct on it,
But I don't know if it is true for everybody
in terms of being able to block out the distractions.
When you are a team like the Cincinnta Bengis who
has lofty expectations and you have two wide receivers who
have been embralled and contract diffused, t Higgins caldn't get
a long term contract, had to settle for the franchise

(29:39):
tag Jamar Chase wants to get paid, got an offer,
but the offer wasn't to his liking, so he turned
it down. So now he's likely pouting him opening and
those things and that energy, depending on how connected he
is to some of his teammates, can drag down the
entire team.

Speaker 5 (29:54):
It has to be addressed, you know.

Speaker 4 (29:56):
It's one of those things that has to be addressed,
and you won't guys to be professional in terms of like, hey,
once we're in the building, all the contract stuff has
to go. But it's hard, man, because they're human beings,
they're not robots, and some players cannot compartmentalize what's going
on away from the field to prevent it from affecting
how they perform on the field.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Oh well, let's see. I hope they perform. I really do,
because I feel bad for Joe Burrow because I think
that right now he has the talent, he has the
personnel to get them at least to the playoffs. But
without this, you know, this stuff that's going on, I
mean just it's it's ridiculous. These guys could go out there.
They need to play and we'll see what happens. And

(30:37):
they look real good against Kansas City. I mean, they
didn't look like the team that lost to the Patriots.
But we'll see what happens. Tomorrogan's Washington if they fall
back again, but we move on. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm
Andy Furman, we of Fox Football Sunday on Fox Sports
Trading Now coming up next on Fox Life at thet
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to set a record today. But first, here's Steve the

(30:57):
Sega with your sports.

Speaker 6 (30:59):
Let's start with college football tonight. Easy wins for number
one Texas, number three Ohio State, and number five ranked
Old miss Number six Tennessee won impressively at Oklahoma twenty
five to fifteen. The ball's lead in the fourth quarter
was twenty two to three. Seventh thranked Missouri got a
double overtime victory over Vanderbilt thirty to twenty seven as
Vandy missed a thirty one yard field goal attempt.

Speaker 5 (31:20):
At the end.

Speaker 6 (31:21):
Wins for Miami and Penn State, and for Michigan on
a touchdown run in the final minute, beating USC twenty
seven to twenty four, even though Michigan had just thirty
two yards passing in the game. Seven for twelve. Twelfth
th ranked Utah led twenty two to three at Oklahoma
State with under six minutes left. Utes win at twenty
two to nineteen. Oklahoma State was ranked fourteenth in the country.

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This week, BYU beat number thirteen Kansas State thirty eight nine,
even though BYU trailed six to nothing late first half,
and Buffalo in overtime won at number twenty three Northern
Illinois twenty three twenty. The NASCAR winner was Kyle Larson
at Bristol, his fifth victory of the year. Major League
Baseball has about a week left in the regular season.
The Yankee Saturday Night pounded Oakland ten nothing Aaron Judge

(32:04):
with his fifty fourth homer, and Baltimore lost at home
in ten innings to Detroit six to four. So the
Yankees first in the AL East, now five games ahead
of Baltimore starting on Tuesday. Baltimore at the Yankees. Starting
on Tuesday, it's the Padres at Dodgers, and the LA
lead in the NLS just three games over the Padres.
Now Dodgers lost at home. Padres won at home. Mets

(32:26):
and Braves each one Saturday. Braves still two games out
of the last NL wildcard spot. Starting on Tuesday, Mets
at Braves. Royals lost their sixth game in a row,
Arizona one. It's fourth straight. Minnesota at Boston reigned out
victories for Houston and Seattle and to the NFL. Texans
running back Joe Mixon is out for Sunday with an
ankle injury. Forty nine Ers tight end George Kittle out

(32:48):
with a hamstring injury. Jacksonville tighten Evan Ingram out again
this weekend with a hamstring injury. I'm Steve Desager.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
Thank you, Steve Okay, were wrong to see it about
an now and now where's the sophomore slump? We'll get
to that in just about a minute. He's Buck, he
broke some Andy Firman, and we are Fox Football Sunday.
Let's just Giants at the Browns, all right, and the
Giants list week they listened a command of twenty one
to eighteen. It was not a good look because their
kick of Graham Gano was basically on the injury report
list and the coach, who Brian Dable, didn't even have

(33:17):
a backup kicker right there, so they could have maybe
at least put it at the overtime, and they didn't
do that. So it's not good and not a report
is saying, Buck that the players are beginning to huddle
and say they're losing confidence in this guy.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
And look, I get it. No one thinks they're bad.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
Everybody thinks it's not there for everybody points fingers in life,
not only in sports. They just keep on pointing. It's
not me, it's you. You did it's your fault. So
now it's not their fault, it's the coach's fault. He's
on the hot seat.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
But I remember this.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Brian Dabele basically was the last coach to get the
Giants to the players back in twenty seventeen, the only
coach to win a playoff game for the team since
their Super Bowl they were back in twenty eleven. So
you know he can coach. There's no doubt in my
mind that he could coach. But the players right now
maybe aren't coach. Whatever it may be. They're just in
a funk. They can't do it. They're playing the Browns.
I don't think they got beat the Browns right now.

(34:05):
There's some internal problems and they just don't. They don't
have the personnel.

Speaker 4 (34:09):
They don't personnel. But what you speak of first is
the confidence. Right, so your team, if you can keep
your team together as a head coach by continue to
tell them the truth and by being not necessarily positive,
but by being truthful to them each and every turn. Hey,

(34:29):
here's where we're at, here's where we're losing. Here's how
we're going to get better. Here's what I'm going to
do to ensure that we get better. Here's what you
need to do to take that coaching and instruction to
get to the next level. And then let's look at
the tape and see what we accomplished throughout the week
on game day, meaning did what we practice on, did
what we work on? Did it show up on tape?
And if it showed up on tape, then what you

(34:51):
try and keep the players locked.

Speaker 5 (34:53):
In on is let's just make progress every week.

Speaker 4 (34:56):
The results will eventually come if we continue to do
the right things.

Speaker 5 (35:00):
And right now, a few the Giants, that's where Brian
dave All has to be.

Speaker 4 (35:03):
He has to be focused on getting them to do
the right things and the scoreboard will take care of itself.
But they got to do the right things time after
time after time so they can execut and give themselves.

Speaker 5 (35:12):
A chance to win.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
All right, But I do think that they're not gonna
win anywhere. I think the Browns will beat him. So
we move on, all right, There, we go. Are you
with me on that? Browns?

Speaker 5 (35:20):
I mean I would take the bruns and that there
we go.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
All right, He's Bucky Brooks, I'm Andy Furman. We are
Fox Football Sunday and Fox Sports.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
Ready.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
He's got all the answers to everything, as Bucky is next.

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Speaker 2 (35:43):
All rightys, Bucky right around the corners about ten minutes
time before the top of the hour. This is Fox
Football Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. He is Bucky Brooks
and Andy Furman, and we're live from the tire Rock
dot Com studio. So let's do it as Bucky right
now here we go showaa Tani. Theycame baseball's first fifty
to fifty player, fifty home fifty stolen bases the other day.
So Bucky Brooks, does he or should he ever pitch again?

Speaker 5 (36:06):
M he's so good as a pitcher.

Speaker 4 (36:08):
You paid him part of the money that you paid
him because you wanted them to pitch. But he is
so dominant as a fielder. I would think about it
but no, I'm.

Speaker 5 (36:16):
Gonna use him.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
I'm use him like he was intended. This dude is
an elite level pitcher and hitter.

Speaker 5 (36:21):
Yeah, I'm gonna let him do.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
Both things, all right.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
I'm not so certain he would have had the fifty
stolen bases if he was pitching. I'm just saying, all right,
but I'd like to see him do both, though, I
really would we move on the one team, the one
team in any sport, college or pro that you truly despise,
you hate as a player or a fan.

Speaker 4 (36:43):
And one team that I truly hated, despised as a
player fan as a tar Hill. I'm naturally gonna say
Duke Duke Basketball like annoys me to no end. So
that would be the team that I cannot kind of
wrap my brain around or never support, even if they
represent the ACC and how some people do that, I.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
Can never do that, Okay, as a pro, when you
played in the NFL a team of as a pro.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
As a pro, it's hard because I bounced around five
different teams, so I can't really say that I have
rivalries when you have that many teams, like I mean,
sometimes you become the rival, so it's harder for me
to say I disdain uh an NFL team because I
played with five and then I worked for two others.

Speaker 5 (37:23):
That's a quarter of the league.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
Right, and you probably despise the team that you eventually
ended up playing for.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
So we moved on, right.

Speaker 5 (37:29):
So it.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
Fans in Cincinnati after the Bengals loss to the Chiefs
last week, this is what the comments were. It was
a moral victory, all right. I got to ask you
played the game. Is this such a thing as a
moral victory? Or was it just a bad loss?

Speaker 5 (37:48):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (37:49):
You can build on some things, like you don't want
to get into that more victory place where you begin
to kind of look for things that aren't on the scoreboard.
But you have to though, like we've talked about all
these teams that started out zero to two and how
as a coach, what you try and get them to
do is focus on process, not result. And sometimes during
the process you may not get to win right away
even though you're beginning to do things the right way.

(38:12):
No almost to hear moral victory, But as a coach,
you do get a measure of some more victories based
on the way your team performs.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
So a moral victory what I'm hearing now is more
of a motivational factor for a coach to use on
a team.

Speaker 4 (38:28):
It's more to use like some things like, hey, guys,
look we didn't win, but let's look at the good
things that came out of this performance.

Speaker 5 (38:34):
Here's what we did really really well.

Speaker 4 (38:36):
If we continue to do those things, we'll have a
chance to win games and do it. So, yes, it
is something that a coach uses to keep his team
engaged and motivated to know that they can win.

Speaker 5 (38:47):
All right.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
Now, the media is now calling sophomore quarterback Bryce Young
from the Panthers a bust.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
Is that a fair statement?

Speaker 5 (38:57):
It's not a fair statement.

Speaker 4 (38:59):
They can talk about the assessment of he hasn't performed well,
but it is not a fair statement. He's been a
dysfunctional situation where he wasn't really given every opportunity to succeed.
You think about changing coaches, three different play callers over
a season and a half. You think about the personnel
arounds him wasn't good last year, and then this year
you have a new head coach who was supposed to

(39:20):
be a guru who pulls the plug after two games.

Speaker 5 (39:23):
Now, it hasn't been fair to him.

Speaker 4 (39:24):
But look, technically, yes, you gotta call him a bus,
but the way it really performed absolutely now, he's not
a bus.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
And funny, in the last twenty four hours, we've seen
me pushed. That team's already making office for Bryce Young,
So they see something in him that they know.

Speaker 4 (39:38):
They realized the dysfunction, They realized the dysfunction around him,
which is why they would love to get him on
a bargain basement deal.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
I'm sure they would.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
All right, after two weeks, the NFL's best team and
the NFL's worst team.

Speaker 4 (39:53):
Best team right now to my eyes have been the
New Orleans Saints, but I still have to can't see
the Chiefs ahead.

Speaker 5 (39:58):
And power rankings worst team.

Speaker 4 (40:01):
I mean, you Ken talked about it like the Giants
have not been really good, like they've struggled. The Panthers
have been terrible. So I would say the Panthers, there
we go.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
Now, how will one NFL team and one NFL quarterback
turn things around? That's next on Fox all right, the
Perfect Five. That's coming right up. Good morning, everybody, This
is Fox Football Sunday on Fox Sports.

Speaker 7 (40:23):
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Speaker 2 (40:23):
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(40:44):
And here he is the man himself, the answer man
for anything you need to know about football, mister Bucket Brooks,
buck how you doing.

Speaker 5 (40:52):
I'm good at anything's going on.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Everything's great. I'm looking at NFL dot com as I
usually do on Friday. Your column is great. A little more,
it's a little more difficult to find them right now.
They revamped that website. Why, I don't know, leave it alone.
I guess people get paid to do things that they
stopped playing around with it, so I had to hunt
a little harder.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
But it's well worth it really is. And you had
an interesting story.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
We touched on this and as Buckey List hour, but
I want to expand a little bit about the Bryce
Young situation. How surprised were you that the Panthers demoted
him at quarterback? This guy was a number one overall
pick of twenty twenty three in the NFL Draft wins
the Heisman Trophy. He's only twenty three, so he's demoted
right now. I guess he gets to blame, if you will,
for the poor play of the Panthers. But does he

(41:34):
have a future? I mean, we've seen other quarterbacks bounce back.
But what's the story there? And you did an NFL
dot Com had a tremendous story which I enjoyed watching
general manager Ron Wolf when you play for the Green
Bay package what he did with quarterbacks. So tell us
about that a little bit.

Speaker 4 (41:51):
So here's the thing when it came to young quarterbacks,
and Ron Wolf and Mike Homie and all of those
guys always believed in if there's a quarterback taken in
the first round, that you always want to kick the
tires on him because if he was taken in the
first round, the league had a view that he had
a lot of talent and maybe new environment, new voice,
new people around him could give him an opportunity to

(42:14):
maximize some of those talents that scouts saw. And Bryce Young,
I see a talented young player that has been in
the midst of dysfunction since the time that he got
to Carolina, two different head coaches, three different play callers,
didn't have a lot of support around him his first year,
second year, they say they've upgraded, but those guys haven't
necessarily been world beaters. How can we really judge and

(42:37):
evaluate him based on all the chaos around him? So
if you're another team like the Miami Dolphins, right, who
has a situation where a if Tua comes back, cool,
but if not, let's take him, let's nurture him, let's
develop him. Michael Danison has already done this before.

Speaker 5 (42:53):
Why would you kick the tires on it.

Speaker 4 (42:56):
I just think it's too early in young's career to
make the definitive statements on what he will be and
what he can be. And if you look at some
of the reclamation projects around the league, the Baker mayfields,
the Sam Donalds and how they're performing, Yeah, you absolutely
want to take a chance on a young player who
has a lot of talent.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
All right, let's do this right now, because today, as
you mentioned, there are nine quarterbacks with the regular of
two and oh amazingly, five as you mentioned, are not
playing for the team that drafted them. So there is
life after a team that kind of bounces you out
and you kind of like nowhere man Land and basically
you come back and you find the team that your
system works with them, and you succeed. Let's talk about

(43:38):
the Sam Donald situation was today Sam Donald and the
Minnesota Vikings and basically, you know, he wasn't even supposed
to play this year, but due to injury, he's playing
the Vikings at Tino to Texas at two and oh.
Last week, the Texans beat the Bears nineteen thirteen, the
Vikings beat the forty nine ers. That was a shaker,
twenty three to seventeen. Sam donald S. It's zero in

(43:58):
on him seeing down on the quarterback of the Vikings,
didn't have Jordan Adison a wide receiver, didn't have the
tight end TJ. Hockinson in that win, justin Jefferson the
wide receiver. He had some bruised quads he left in
the fourth quarter, yet they still win. Donald's completed seventy
two percent of his throws this year four to seventy
sixty yards for TDS twnts. Amazingly what he has done.

(44:22):
And honestly, let's talk about defensively, because I think as
good as Donald has been He's on a team that's
tremendous defensively thanks to the defensive coordinated Brian Flores, forty
nine ers couldn't move the ball against the Vikings last week.
The defense caused the finals quarterback Rock Party to hold
the ball, I believe a little longer than usual and

(44:44):
that's why he was sacked six times in that game
last week.

Speaker 4 (44:48):
Yeah, there are a lot of positive things to talk
about when it comes to the Minnesota Vikings.

Speaker 5 (44:51):
We can talk about Sam Donald.

Speaker 4 (44:52):
With Sam Donald has brought to the table in terms
of life, just finding his way, Kevin O'Connell having the
ultimate belief in him, and building an offense around his talents.
And that offense looks great because Sam Donald has really
been I would say elevated and sentuated by some of
the things that they have been able to do. When
it comes to their defense, Brian Floyd is terrific, right.

(45:14):
He is kind of taking the cover zero bluffing, blitz
tacked it to the next level. They do a bunch
of things where they bring in six man pressures. They're
playing zone or man behind it, and it's really confusing
to the quarterback. Not only are they doing those kinds
of things, but they're just changing the picture post snap.
That makes life miserable for quarterbacks who are unable to

(45:35):
really decipher what they're doing. This is a really good
Minnesota Vikings team, and it's one of those that has
flown under the radar. But we look, if they win today,
we're gonna have to talk about them as one of
the best teams in the National Football League.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
It's amazing it really. I don't think they will. I
think the Texans are better team overall. But let's talk
about the Texans for a second. Where's this sophomore slump
for their quarterback CJ. Stride.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
The sad news is for quarterbacks being draft of the
first round. Now CJ.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Stroud becomes the barometer. He's the starting point where everybody
compares to CJ. Stroud, which I don't think we're going
to see much anymore. I mean, he was an exception
to the rule this season. He's forty seven for sixty eight,
almost seventy percent completion rates, three tds.

Speaker 5 (46:16):
No.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
I iNTS an amazing story there, and he's got some
great players surrounding him, and I think the coach gets
some credit as well. So I think right now with
the Texans at the Vikings. I like the Texans in
a close one, but one of the better games today.

Speaker 5 (46:30):
Yeah, one hundred percent. You're right. It is one of
the better games. And it's amazing to see CJ.

Speaker 4 (46:37):
Stroud play at the level that he played that particularly
when you go back to all the conversation pre draft
when everyone talked about he's not mobile, the S two
testing where people questioned his processing speed and is intelligence
as it relates to breaking down the game and those things.
He's blown all of those things up, all of those
poor narratives, he's blown them up, and he's played really well.

(46:57):
And when you look at him, he is the prototypical
QB one that you want in today's game. Great mind,
great arm talent, great leadership skills, has enough athleticism to
do some things on the perimeter from a creative standpoint,
but just man, a really good football player in area
and I don't really know if you could cite a
glaring weakness in his game.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Amazing, really, And you talk about how Sam Donald has
kind of resurrected his career, you know, basically with a
coaching change and a new area, a new personnel, whatever
it may be, you know, Bryce Young basically had a
new coach coming into and it didn't work for him.
So I think it's system and coach because I'm looking
right now at another one of the five perfect quarterbacks

(47:41):
with two old records is Baker Mayfield, and basically they
changed offensive coordinators and he's still thriving. He's thriving big
time in Tampa. Baker Mayfield stories, it's really an amazing story.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
It really is.

Speaker 4 (47:54):
Yeah, it is an amazing story. Here's what I'll say about
Baker Mayfield and here's why it pops up and why
it works. Liam Cohen spent time with the Rams, and
basically what they're doing is the stuff that Baker did
with the Rams that really helped him jump start his
career again.

Speaker 5 (48:08):
Remember he was coming from Carolina.

Speaker 4 (48:09):
He goes to the Rams, has a nice little stint
with the Rams that kind of led to tamp Bay
Buccaneers to take a chance on him. When you are
a coach, your job is to understand what your players
do really well and put them in a situation where
they can do those things over and over and over again.
Liam Cohen has done that. They've kind of built upon
what Baker did really well last year and what he's

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done previously in his career, and Baker has continued to
grow and develop and he is very, very comfortable in
his own skin as a leader, He's very comfortable in
that environment down in Tampa. He is the guy that
they needed post Tom Brady, and I think, look, they've
struck gold when it comes to Baker Mayfield being the
next quarterback of the squad.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
Well, they may have struggled with Baker Mayfield, but I
think the New Orleans Saints struck gold with changing their
offensive coordinators with Clint Kubiak, because they're a car right
now who basically you could say he might be in
the twilight of his career at thirty three years of age,
did not have a great year in New Orleans last year,
but right now he has the NFL best one hundred
and forty two point four passing rating. What's how I

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know Alba Kamara has really helped on the offense, has
no doubt about that. And this team has scored forty
seven and forty four points in their first two ball games.
But what has changed in Derek Carr and all of
a sudden he right now may beginning the comeback Player
of the Year award.

Speaker 5 (49:25):
Nothing month has necessarily changed in him.

Speaker 4 (49:27):
I think they've changed the way that they utilize him
and to stuff around him. The Saints offense is gone
from a Derek car Let offense to an Alvin Kamara
led offense. Alvin Kamara has destrayed this stirs to drink.
They're utilizing him in a variety of way. It's very
similar to the way the San Francisco forty nine ers
jus Christian McCaffrey. And when you take the focus off

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the quarterback and put it on a running back or
an offensive weapon, it changes the way the defense has
to defend the New Orleans Saints. And because Alvin Kamara
can do so many different things in the backfield outside
the backfield, it has opened up the field for Derek Carr,
and Derek Carr has been very efficient in terms of
throwing and operating the passing game that they've constructed. The

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passing game in itself is well constructed. There's misdirection, deception,
and then there's some quick rhythm throws. They're not asking
Derek Carr to do a lot. Clinton Kubiak is doing.
The one who's playing the shell game with the defensive
coordinator to create these easy throws and big play opportunities
for this quarterback.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
You know, and I'll run this by the Kubiak really
has done on a marvelous job. They're putting up points,
so you need like a calculator to keep scoring with
the New Orleans Saints.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
But again, it's like the Peda principle. You could be
a great teacher, that doesn't necessarily mean you're going to
be a great principal. Now do you believe that some
of these offensive coordinators and defensive cordat that Brian Flores
of the world at Kubiak, will they eventually become great
head coaches or they're just basically good in what where
they're at right now.

Speaker 4 (50:53):
You know the funny thing about it, there's no direct
correlation between being a good coordinator being a good head coach.
These skills required to be effective in each position are
completely different. The head coach is about operating the entire team,
being a visionary for how you want this team to
operate in. What do I need to do to get
this team to play a certain way so we have

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the best chance of winning. How do I get the
coaches to give the players what they need so they
can be successful. When you're a coordinator, it's a little
more about x's and o's. Yeah, there's some stuff that
you talk about when it comes to developing, but it
is a little more about x's and o's the head coach,
it's about the entire operation. So sometimes the CEO coach

(51:33):
is better than the play calling coach because he has
the ability to step away from it, look at how
the offense, defense, and special teams are tied together, and
to be able to say, hey, we need this area
to operate like this, that area to operate like this,
because the entire team operates better when they operate in
those respective ways.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
Right, Okay, I'm going to go to the Seattle Seahawks
right now, basically the contenders. I think you got a
move shot right now at two and oh thanks to
Geno Smith and I go back, and I remember with
Smith had a broken jaw and when he played for
the Jets, I thought he'd be out. I thought he's finished.
This guy's come back to life. It's unbelievable what he's done.
And again he's got some talent around him, He's got

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DK Metcalf, but still in all he's been reborn.

Speaker 3 (52:16):
As you mentioned in Seattle, he.

Speaker 5 (52:18):
Has been reborn.

Speaker 4 (52:20):
And you know, Gino Smith, like to his credit, never
gave up on himself. You know when he made the
tour around the league as a backup quarterback, he always
kept in his mind that he was a starter and
he worked on his game from becoming i would say
like a more athletic quarterback because he slimmed down, he
did some things to just growing as a player. He

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really did the work that helped him improve and because
of that he's getting the benefits. Yeah, we can talk
about what's the out of this scinmatically a couple of
years ago to have him become a Pro Bowl player.
But he has a new offensive coordinator and Ryan Grubb
who has opened up his game. They're pushing it down
the field some They're doing some really creative stuff schematically,
and you know Smith is thriving as a result.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
Okay, let's go about justin fields right now. We ever
going to see Russell Wilson on the field in Pittsburgh.
I mean that's just the way it is. I Mean,
Russell Wilson gets injured, justin comes in there and basically
what he's got to do is just be a game manager.

Speaker 3 (53:15):
Don't turn the ball over.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
That's the great offense of Mike and defense obviously of
Mike Tomlin and the Steelers and Arthur Smith as well.
So I think right now, unless something goes south, Justin
Fields is the quarterback.

Speaker 4 (53:29):
I mean yeah, I think it have to take a
change in the environment or changing something to force them
to go back to Russell Wilson.

Speaker 5 (53:37):
Justin Fields is playing well enough for them to win games.

Speaker 4 (53:41):
And as long as they're able to win games in
the fashion in which they're winning them, you don't change it.

Speaker 5 (53:46):
You don't rock the ball.

Speaker 4 (53:47):
Young players playing well, take care of the football. That's
the number one rule when you're playing quarterback.

Speaker 7 (53:51):
There we go.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
Now we talked about the Alva Kamara offense with the
New Orleans Saints. So today the Eagles are playing at
the Saints. And the only thing that I take away
from that Eagles game on Monday night when they lost
to the Falcons, when Sae Kwon Barkley, who played such
a great game, if he just would have held on
to that ball at the winning moments of the ball game,
they would.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
Have continued to continue to have the ball run out
the clock. They would have won.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
They lost that game to the Falcons, which was a heartbreak,
it really was. But what they got to do today
is Keith Alvin Kamara off the field, keep the Saints
off the field. Because the Saints score points faster than
you would ever run. The forty really forty seven and
forty four points the first two ballgames. So I think
that's the key right now and this ball game today,

(54:34):
I think the Eagles bounce back. It's gonna be tough.
I stay if I'm a gamble I stay away from
this game.

Speaker 3 (54:39):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
I think the Eagles will bounce back, but I think
the Saints has put up a lot of points.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
And the game is in New Orleans.

Speaker 4 (54:46):
Yeah, different thing, a lot of confidence. They played differently
when they're playing at home. The Eagles are reeling from
a game that they just gave away on prime time.
This is a tough matchup for the Eagles. With all
the different things that the Saints do offensively, they can
expose some of the weak problems of the Eagles defense.

Speaker 5 (55:05):
Yeah, I'll go with the saying something with you on that.

Speaker 3 (55:07):
All right now. Chargers are at the Steelers again.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Both teams are two and oh Charges twenty six to
three over Carolina last week, Steelers thirteen to six over Denver.
Now I'm gonna say say something, and maybe it's totally
ridiculous the Charges right now, I get it, they're two
and oh, but who do they play?

Speaker 3 (55:23):
Vegas and Carolina? Steelers two and oh?

Speaker 2 (55:26):
They played Atlanta in Denver and right now you look
at the schedule Charges Colts, I mean, right now they
have Easy Street down the road.

Speaker 3 (55:35):
Again.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
It's great to be two and oh in the NFL,
and as you mentioned, every Sunday's different, But I don't
have that much respect and or confidence in either one
of these teams. I like the Stealers really because of
their defense. But can they stop the run game because
JK Domin is going nuts to sixty six totally yards,
twenty seven attempts, two touchdowns, had one hundred and thirty

(55:56):
five last week they stopped Dobbins. They win the ball game.
That's key right there.

Speaker 4 (56:02):
Well, a lot of it depends on Justin Herbert's status
of Justin Herberts.

Speaker 5 (56:05):
Yeah, you got to deal.

Speaker 4 (56:06):
With the physicality and toughness from the Chargers, but also
I think you're underestimating Jesse Menner's contributions to this defense
and how this defense gets Now, this is a really
good defensive defense that has played lights out. Derwin James
is back making plays, Khalil Mack and Joey Bosen making
disruptive plays.

Speaker 5 (56:23):
Off the edge. The Charges are a tough matchup.

Speaker 4 (56:26):
But if they're having to play their backup quarterback, yeah,
I think this goes in Pittsburgh's favor.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
Yeah, but you look at the schedule. I mean, you look,
people look at the records, but I think that how
do you get there? How do you get that record?

Speaker 3 (56:38):
I mean still in all it's not as strong as
other teams records, you know, I mean because the teams
that they play, you know, you look at the Charge. Yeah, again, Vegas,
I'm not so certain where they're going this year. Vegas
Carolina is terrible. Two and all.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
Yeah, two and oh is a great record in the
National Football League after the first two weeks.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
But again, who do you do it against?

Speaker 4 (57:00):
Yeah, I mean there's something to that, but right now
we don't know who's good yet. You won't know until
you get about a quarter the way through the season.
You got to play those that are in front of you.
I'll say this though, the ability to run the ball
is real because they're committed to it.

Speaker 5 (57:14):
And that's the first thing that you got to stop.

Speaker 4 (57:16):
No matter what we're talking about with the charge, you
got to stop the running game in Canna, Pittsburgh still
to stop the running game consistently, to force.

Speaker 5 (57:23):
The game to be a quarterback game.

Speaker 4 (57:25):
If they can do that, particularly if Herbert doesn't play
a tennis issue now, if Herbert plays tennis, Abell, can
they cover the wide receivers and harassed the quarterback after
taking away to run?

Speaker 3 (57:33):
And there's no surprise that that's Harvard's game. He's a
run coach. That's what he like.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
And he drafted offensive lineman to continue the running game,
and he loves the running game, you know. In other words,
I'm gonna run. If you could stop me, great, just try.
I'm gonna run right down your throat. That's what I'm
gonna do, and I'm gonna do it every single week.

Speaker 4 (57:51):
Yeah, I mean, that's what they want to do, and
that's what they'll continue to do. They can run it
down their throw.

Speaker 5 (57:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
He did it in Michigan and he's gonna do it
in the NFL, and he did it previously in the NFL.
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That's a laugh of right there.

Speaker 3 (58:59):
My question is this, if, in fact, Baker Mayfield, who's
turned the tie, I guess if you will, in Tampa Bay,
what would he be doing right now in Cleveland if
they didn't let him go. I think they'd be better
served with him than Deshaun Watson. What do you think?

Speaker 5 (59:14):
I don't know. I think Hanside is twenty twenty. There
was a reason why they moved on from him.

Speaker 4 (59:18):
There was a ceiling that they saw with him that
they thought that they would be able to surpass with
Deshaun Watson. Deshaun Watson, I mean, they knew he was
coming off suspension or whatever, but he hasn't he hadn't
played enough games or whatever like. It hasn't been great,
but he certainly hasn't played enough games with the Browns.
I think both parties are in the best situation for them.
Baker Mayfield is in a much better place now because

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I think Baker Mayfield is a better player now than
he was in Cleveland, and he never would become the
he never would have become the player that he is
today if he didn't go through the trials and tribulations
that took him on look a weird route around the
league to eventually end up intent Sure.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
Now, Baker Mayfield was on this Cosa The Club podcast
the other day talking about maybe how he changed the
culture of the Tampa Bay Bucks's take a listen.

Speaker 5 (01:00:07):
Di ferent personalities.

Speaker 8 (01:00:09):
So for me, I was just trying to be myself,
not trying to wear his shoes or do any of that.

Speaker 5 (01:00:15):
And you can't do that.

Speaker 8 (01:00:16):
And he made it to the level he did by
being himself and in his own way, and I think
everybody else did as well.

Speaker 5 (01:00:22):
So you got to do it your own way.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
I guess he's talking about he would be Tom Brady,
So I guess very difficult coming into a situation where
Tom Brady comes in there, wins the super Bowl, and
he's got to come in there and kind of duplicate
at least have some success. He's having success. But I
think it's a different animal. It certainly is that tom Brady.
It was the last goal around. He was like forty
forty one years of age, and he knew, like this
is it. I got to do it and do it now.

(01:00:45):
Where Baker, I don't think that kind of pressure was
on him No.

Speaker 4 (01:00:51):
I mean there's a different level of pressure on Baker
than it was Tom Brady. I think he is right
in terms of he talked about like more on that podcast,
talked about the high strong, high stress environment that Tom
Brady created and some of that has come from New
England where they operated like that.

Speaker 5 (01:01:07):
But they operated like that so the game would be easy.

Speaker 4 (01:01:09):
Everybody has to lead in their own way, though, and
for Baker Mayfield to acknowledge that I'm my own guy,
I'm very comfortmbent in my own scan and I have
to lead this way. To me is the growth it is.
The growth is the understanding the maturation of a young
quarterback that has become a really good quarterback in this league.

Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
And you talk about high strung environment created by Tom Brady.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
I gotta believe that. Tom Brady says, I got to
do it now. I don't have any more years ahead
of me. This may be it, so I got to
do it right now. And I think that kind of
surfaced in the clubhouse, in the locker room, and guys
felt that way. They felt pressure, they felt tense under
Tom Brady, and they won. I will give them credit,
but I think what's happening now in Tampa with Baker Mayfield.
He has fallen in love with Chris Godwin. Godwin right now,

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fifteen receptions, two hundred yards and two games with two touchdowns.
That's his favorite right there, and you got to stop them.
So this game is going to be a laugh for
the Broncos at the Bucks today, I think the Broncos.

Speaker 4 (01:01:58):
I think you've been very I think you'd be very
dismissive of the Broncos. I think the NFL is sorry.
And as soon as you begin to think that, oh,
this is an easy game, that's when one of those
teams get caught.

Speaker 5 (01:02:08):
They may win, but I don't think it'll be a laver.

Speaker 4 (01:02:11):
I just think that they need to give them their
proper respect because if they go in their sleepwalking, the
Denver Broncos absolutely get to win.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
I give them no respect. I tell you why the
Bucks right now. The defense had a great win over
the Lions last week. That was in Detroit, who was
twenty sixteen at the offense. In Denver, they have no
basic threats. They got bad quarterback play with Bo Knicks.
I just don't see it happening. I see this game
maybe a double digit win. By Tampa and Tampa today.
That's my take on it, and I stick with it.

(01:02:38):
I ain't changing. I ain't changing, all right. Packers at
the Titans right now. Last week the Packers beat the Colts,
they shut them out, I believe, and the Titans are
rowing too. They lost to the Jets. Titans lost to
the Jets. The Packers, what do you gotta do for winning?
Gott to feed the ball to running back Josh Jacobs.
That's what you got to do over the Colts. He
had what thirty two carries, one hundred and fifty yards.

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Got to make it easy for their quarter of Malik Willis.
I mean certainly you want him to not turn.

Speaker 7 (01:03:03):
The ball over.

Speaker 3 (01:03:04):
That's what you gotta do. What do you do?

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
Run out the clock, move the chains, give it to
Josh Jacobs. Packers has the ball for more than forty
minutes against the Colts last week, and the Titans defense
leads the league and the fewer the yards allowed. Could
be a toughie right now, but I still like the Packers,
maybe by a touchdown. Mmm M what's the tell me?

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Tell me tell me no.

Speaker 5 (01:03:28):
I mean, like Malik Willis, it's allowed to put on
Malik Willis to play good back to back weeks. Yeah,
there's a lot to count on. I mean, they're a
good team. I don't know if I can go thatway.
I'm gonna go to the other way on this one.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
Really, Wow, you're going to Titans break it out of it? Okay,
they lose their virginity today, they get their first win, and.

Speaker 5 (01:03:46):
They know the quarterback. They know the quarterback better than
anybody else.

Speaker 4 (01:03:49):
They know what gives him problems, like they know the
quarterback that's a different level or whatever. And because Maleak
hasn't played enough to maybe settling. Yeah, I'm absolutely gonna
take the Titans in this.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
You know, I hear what you're saying, and I respect
the fact you played the game. But you got to
know the quarterback. Everybody knows somebody on another team. But
if you just have better players, that that's going to
shine and mean a lot more than knowing someone. Don't
you agree? I mean, they they're just better players. I
think there are just a better team the Packers. And honestly,
they got to stop Josh Jacobs. I mean the guys

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just used like a machine.

Speaker 5 (01:04:24):
He used like a machine.

Speaker 4 (01:04:25):
Now, but they stop Josh Jacobs, then what then it
becomes a Malik Willis game. Are we willing to say
that Malik Willis is going to be the guy that
can lead him over the top?

Speaker 5 (01:04:34):
For me? Wow, I'm good. I'm out on that. So
that's where I take the Tights.

Speaker 3 (01:04:37):
I hear the name biting against your own team too, well,
you play for the Packers. Unbelievable.

Speaker 5 (01:04:41):
There we go.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
All right, here's Bucky Brooks, I'm Andy Furman. Together we
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to you. That's next, But first Chris Purfet with all
your sports.

Speaker 9 (01:04:55):
Hello, Andy, Hello Bucky. We've got a lot going on here.
Let's start you with some NFL status dates here before
the big games kick off today, Los Angeles charges quarterback
Justin Herbert is dealing with a high ankle spray, but
the team is not expected to make a decision on
his status until pregame warm up Sylvia game time decision there.
In spite of keeping Jordan Love on the injury report

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as questionable, Packers will start Malik Willis and they have
also elevated Sean Clifford from the practice squad in their
game today against the Titans. Colts wide receiver Michael Pittman
Junior is expected to play today, so is Greg Dorch
for the Cardinals, who has been listening as questionable but
will play in their game against the Detroit Lions. Nick
Bosa is dealing with the rib injury, but he's expected

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to play for the forty nine ers. They will not, however,
have George Kittle, He's been downgraded to out tight end there,
Saints will have Taysom Hill there tight end doubtful, and
the Jaguars have ruled out tight end Evan Engram. Meanwhile,
the Browns are expected to start for the first time
this season, left tackle Jedrick Willis. He'll be making his
debut against the New York Giants, and reports out that

(01:06:01):
in spite of head coach Dave Canalis says saying the
Panthers will not trade Bryce Young, Adam Schefter is reporting
several teams have made trade inquiries into the former number
one pick. Meanwhile, NFL Networks Ian Rapport is also saying
that in spite of the benching, Panthers are still expected
to start Bryce Young again sometime in this season. However,
for today, Andy Dalton set to start against the Raiders

(01:06:24):
last night. In college football, Number Colorado survived Baylor in
overtime thirty eight to thirty one, with quarterback Shadur Sanders
coming in clutch with a hail Mary at the end
of regulation to keep the Buffs in this game. Number
six Tennessee over Number fifteen Oklahoma twenty five to fifteen.
Number seven Missouri surviving Vanderbilt in overtime thirty to twenty

(01:06:46):
seven as Vanderbilt missed a thirty one yard field goal
in that game. In baseball, Mariners had to win over
the Texas Rangers eight to four. That now puts them
a game and a half back of the third AL
wildcard spot, as that's spot has become one of the
hottest races to watch in baseball, Tigers over the Orioles
six to four. Royals lose their sixth in a row,

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falling to the Giants nine zero, and the key to
all of this, the Twins were rained out in their
game against the Red Sox. They did not play. Meanwhile,
for the NL wild card, Braves are still two games
back of the Mets, and the Atlanta Braves defeated the
Marlins six to two. We're also getting ready here for
Formula one Green Flag coming up at eight am Eastern

(01:07:31):
in Singapore Grand Prix Lando Norris with the pole position.
Also yesterday, in boxing, Anthony Joshua was knocked out in
the fifth round by Daniel du Bois, a kind of
a new up and coming guy, but for Anti and Joshua,
who was once the talk of the heavyweight division. He
was at one point a minus five hundred favorite in

(01:07:52):
this match, and he's knocked out in the fifth round. Finally,
Inter Miami in a draw one to one to New
York City f Seed, denting their supporters shield lead. Lionel
Messi had the goal for Miami, which was their lead
until the dying seconds by a goal by New York's
James Sayans. Inter also earned five of nine yellow cards

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in this game, and their manager Tata Martina Martino blaming
poor officiating. After the game, Andy Bucky back to you,
you had to.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
Get the soccer in? How to get the soccer in?
Right at the end of his right, Hey, I guess
you know we could talk. Oh, actually, that does remind
me of one more. Thank you for reminding me.

Speaker 5 (01:08:31):
Andy.

Speaker 9 (01:08:32):
US women's star Trinity Rodman was actually had a back
injury on the field in NWSL play and she had
to be taken off the field in a wheelchair in
a very scary situation. Uh, we're going to have to
get an update later on from the Washington NWSL team
as far as the extent of her injury. Andy, Bucky

(01:08:52):
back to you.

Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
Thank you, Christina.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
Now, now have you seen this quarterbacks numbers? We'll get
to that in just about a minute. He is, Bucky Brooks.
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The Bears are one on one at the Indy Colts
Own two and I'm gonna say this right here now,

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it's the same old Bears. They were in the same
way how on defense, same old Chicago Bears. In fact,
last week Bucky Khalil Herbert's rushing touchdown was the bears
first of the year, and Caleb Williams a disappointment so far,
a disappointment two games thirty seven for sixty six, fifty
six percent, passing two hundred sixty seven yards two into

(01:10:00):
and glaringly no touchdowns. What's wrong? What's happened is that
the offensive line I don't get and today all the
Bears have to do is run the ball.

Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
Why the Colts have given up four to seventy four
rushing yards and two.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
Games run the ball. Run the ball. Make it easier
for Caleb will you please? It's really frustrating to see
all a hype for this guy and really right now
not living up to it.

Speaker 4 (01:10:27):
Now he hasn't necessarily lived up to it, but we
should expect young rookies to struggle as the league is
a very very hard league to deal with. He is
getting I would say, kind of a graduate level course
in defense in terms of facing him. He's seeing how
fast things happen. The windows are tight the rush is fast.

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He's trying to make some of those plays that he
made at USC where he scrambles around and does those things,
but he's dealing with a faster unit on the other side.

Speaker 5 (01:10:57):
He can settle in. But what Caleb.

Speaker 4 (01:10:58):
Williams is going to have to learn is the NFL
game is played inside the pocket, is played with a
managerial perspective, meaning, how do I need to manage this
situation right now? Given time, score, situation, all of those things.
And the only way that you get I say, great
at those opportunities is by having more of those opportunities

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and allowing experience to be that teacher.

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
Look, I'm looking at the Bears right now. As bad
as Caleb Williams disappointing to some people, has he been,
Anthony Richardson's been worse, right, So what you got to
do is you the Bears. That Bears defense is whin
he bawlgames for them. Keep on putting the pressure on
Anthony Richardson. Make that team one dimensional and they basically
are one dimensional offensive team with Jonathan Taylor. Last week,

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Jonathan Taylor ran for over one hundred yards anyway and
that loss. But the Colts offensive line I don't know
if they could protect Richardson's that's the key. Bears are defense.
Bears win this game on defense. An ugly game, but
they went close. But I think maybe they win by
a few a very ugly game.

Speaker 4 (01:12:01):
Agreed, Yeah, I mean I think it'll be an ugly game.
But yeah, the Bears defense, to me, tips the game
in their favor. They make plays, everything has done a
good jock getting their defense up to snuff.

Speaker 5 (01:12:12):
And then it's about quarterbacks not making mistakes.

Speaker 4 (01:12:14):
And if Kayle Williams doesn't make egregious eras, they'll win
the game.

Speaker 7 (01:12:17):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (01:12:18):
Now, Dolphins won on one at the Seahawks. There two
and o.

Speaker 2 (01:12:21):
Last week, the Dolphins lost to the Bills thirty one
to ten. The Seahawks beat the Pats in overtime no less,
twenty three to twenty.

Speaker 3 (01:12:28):
Now here's the deal.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
I look at the personnel a little bit, I look
at who teams play, and it's glaring to me that
the Seahawks two wins against the Dever and the Patriots.
How do you judge this team? I mean, that's okay
if you're a gambler, and I'm not. But if you're gambling, right,
now you got to see this, so I get it
they're two and oh, but really and truly know how
strong is that two and oh record against the teams

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they beat right now? Gino Smith last week thirty three
for forty four to three to twenty seven and a touchdown.
Dolphins got to go with Skyla Thompson's quarterback. Is that
an advantage?

Speaker 3 (01:13:01):
Buck?

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
Because there's no scouting really, so to speak on Skylett
Thompson on the on the on the point of I
guess Seattle playing the Dolphins, how do you find Skylet
Thompson on tape?

Speaker 5 (01:13:12):
I mean you foind M.

Speaker 4 (01:13:13):
You go back and look at how you performed last
year when he got his opportunity or two years ago
when he got a chance. But you really scout the
you know, scout the coach. What are the coaches Tennessees?

Speaker 5 (01:13:23):
What did he like to do? What are the base plays?

Speaker 10 (01:13:25):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (01:13:25):
And then you are able to adapt as the game
is going on.

Speaker 10 (01:13:28):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:13:28):
If you're Seattle, the number one thing that you can
do is you got to jump on them. Because as
much you're going to talk about Skelet Thompson, the weapons
around Skelet Thompson are legitimate Tyreek Hill, Taylan Waddle, the
speed that they have in the backfield, hn and all
those guys.

Speaker 5 (01:13:42):
That's problematic.

Speaker 4 (01:13:43):
No, no matter who the trigger man is, you have
to make sure you take away the capable threats and
then you want to put the game on the quarterback
shoulders and get after.

Speaker 3 (01:13:50):
Him, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
And they're giving a lot of hype to Gino Smith
and deservedly so I get it. And he's playing lights
out as they say. But give me some meat on
the schedule, that's what I want to see. I'm looking
at the Seahawks schedule right now. Miami, they're a shell
of themselves. They got Detroit Monday night next Monday, so
maybe that'll do. That'll give me a test when I

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see him play against Detroit. That's the key right there, right,
I want to see what he is against Detroit. But
then they go back against the Giants. That doesn't do
anything for me. So let me let me see what
you're gonna do against some big boys. That's want to see, agreed.

Speaker 5 (01:14:23):
Okay, all right, we want to see good boys, big boys, man.

Speaker 3 (01:14:27):
I think they do.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
There we go Bucky brooks Andy Furman, Fox Football Sunday
on Fox Sports Ready, Now the game that causes real pain. Yeah,
it's bott and barrel betting, not a freaking next. All right,
this is the game of the day, bot on Barrel Betting.
Right around the corner. He's Bucky Brooks, I'm Andy Furman.
We are Fox Football Sunday and Fox Sports Ready about
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(01:14:49):
course we're a live from the tire Rock dot Com studios.
We got boton Barrel Betting. We got that game to play.
Let's play it all right, Shay Shae laying on our
Shay shade you.

Speaker 11 (01:15:00):
Thanks doing guys.

Speaker 10 (01:15:00):
Welcome to bottom barrel Betting, the game where I tell
Bucky and Andy games from around the world and they
tell me who they think will win. I get these
games from different betting websites and I tell them if
the I tell them the lines and who they think
will win, and they give me the score.

Speaker 3 (01:15:20):
And we tell you something too sometimes, but we can't
say it on the air.

Speaker 10 (01:15:23):
Tell me something sometimes too, but you definitely can't say
it on the air.

Speaker 11 (01:15:27):
Right to get right into it.

Speaker 10 (01:15:29):
Last week we restarted the season and Andy, you started.

Speaker 11 (01:15:33):
Off with a loss, but it wasn't too bad. It
was three to two going towards.

Speaker 3 (01:15:37):
No No. A loss is a loss.

Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
But Bucky described that to me earlier to take There's
no such thing as a moral victory.

Speaker 3 (01:15:42):
It's a loss. I lost, okay, and I'm pretty pissed lost.

Speaker 10 (01:15:47):
Great way to throw it back to earlier in the show.
But let's see if you can come back and get
a win here to make it a one to one
early in the season. Going one to one isn't bad.
That's still five hundred. Onto the Snooker English Open. Woo
is taking on Nate robertson this morning at five am.
Woo is plus two fifty five while Nate is minus

(01:16:10):
three sixty. Bucky, let's start with you because you won.

Speaker 4 (01:16:13):
Let's go to Woo Woo Woo woo ooo ooo woooo.

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
Jan glad you took Woo because anybody who calls himself
wool war a team colls wool does something wrong. I mean, really,
it's not a normal name.

Speaker 3 (01:16:24):
I won. Nate Robinson, Why gosh, Nate Robinson played for
the New York Knicks. I root for the Knicks.

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
I do I remember Nate. He's a pretty good player.
I'm going on Nate Robinson.

Speaker 11 (01:16:33):
Yeah, I don't know if this is the Nate Robinson.

Speaker 10 (01:16:35):
Oh, it's not the same Nate Robinson. But yeah, no,
definitely they have the same name.

Speaker 3 (01:16:40):
Well, it could be related, they can related.

Speaker 10 (01:16:43):
In the Arab Club Basketball Women's Championship, the GS Cosiders
are taking on the al Ula today at six thirty
am Pacific Standard time. The Cosiders are minus one fifteen
while al Ula is minus one twenty five. Uh, let's
start with you, Andy.

Speaker 7 (01:17:02):
Ula Ula.

Speaker 3 (01:17:03):
I want some Oula, give me some la baby, Bucky.

Speaker 5 (01:17:07):
All right, that's easy. I take the gods and.

Speaker 11 (01:17:10):
Easy for Bucky, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:17:12):
I make it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
So I make a pick, which obviously is probably roll
most of the time, and all he does is take
the other one.

Speaker 3 (01:17:19):
So he did. There's no there's no.

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
Well we'll see, we'll see what happens. I'm only down
one now.

Speaker 5 (01:17:27):
Yeah. It just makes us have rooting interest, that's all.

Speaker 10 (01:17:30):
Okay, Yeah, Bucky, Bucky's got some some nervousness right here.

Speaker 11 (01:17:34):
He could be down to you. He should be, Yeah,
he should be.

Speaker 7 (01:17:37):
Yes.

Speaker 10 (01:17:38):
In the Brave Combat Federation, Clyde Brunswick is.

Speaker 3 (01:17:42):
Taking what is this now, what are you talking?

Speaker 10 (01:17:44):
Brave Combat Federation is a MMA league or MMA promotion.
It's it's taking on Madeline Peri Lescu today at nine
am Pacific Standard time. Clyde is minus one fifty five
while Madeline is plus one twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
But Andy gotta go with Clyde Fraser, I mean, play
for the niche as well. But let me tell you something.
You know you are really off the deep end. You
really are. You're giving those games that A you never
heard of them. B you can't even pronounce.

Speaker 3 (01:18:11):
Read bring in brave, really no, real realize pere luscu.

Speaker 11 (01:18:16):
It's it's a hard last name.

Speaker 3 (01:18:17):
Okay, reel it in a little bit, if you would please.

Speaker 10 (01:18:20):
Oh, get ready for this next one. I'm going for
Clyde though, Bucky, I forget who forget Madeline and Clyde.
Madeline's plus one twenty. Clyde is minus one fifty five.

Speaker 5 (01:18:29):
All right, so let's go Madeline.

Speaker 10 (01:18:31):
Okay, Madeline and Andy, this is just for you. Onto
the Professional bull Riders League. The Kansas City Outlaws are
taking on the Arizona Ridge Riders today at ten forty
five am Pacific Standard time. The Outlaws are minus one
ninety while the Ridge Riders are plus one forty Bucky,
let's start with you.

Speaker 5 (01:18:49):
Uh, give me Kansas City.

Speaker 11 (01:18:51):
I forget what the outlaws?

Speaker 3 (01:18:53):
Oh, okay, Ridge Riders. I guess now I'm going with
Kansas City too. I want can't because I think there's
a lot of bull in Kansas City. Really right?

Speaker 11 (01:19:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:19:04):
And the you got take it anyway you want to.

Speaker 11 (01:19:06):
They are minus one.

Speaker 3 (01:19:08):
I got Kansas City.

Speaker 10 (01:19:10):
And then onto Malaysia for the Soccer super League that
Pan Yang FC is taking on a Sembillion tomorrow at
two thirty a m.

Speaker 11 (01:19:20):
Pacific Standard time. I got tickets, you know, do you?

Speaker 7 (01:19:23):
Oh?

Speaker 11 (01:19:23):
Yeah, how much were your flights playing?

Speaker 3 (01:19:26):
Really? Go ahead, I go.

Speaker 11 (01:19:29):
It's the Malaysian I haven't even finished saying the odds.

Speaker 2 (01:19:32):
But if you want to say, I'm gonna go. You
know what, I know this one? Okay, Panyang? I saw
that on the menu and an orient at the restaurant.

Speaker 11 (01:19:41):
I'm going with Pan Yang Okay, Bucky?

Speaker 3 (01:19:43):
You staying with Fried Rice?

Speaker 5 (01:19:45):
Fucky?

Speaker 11 (01:19:45):
Do you have to say the odds? Are you just
gonna you get a guess?

Speaker 10 (01:19:48):
Give me the Pan Yang is minus one fifty five
while Simbillion is plus three fifty five.

Speaker 11 (01:19:54):
So Andy knew what he was talking about to look
at you first time, you guys got to I.

Speaker 3 (01:20:01):
Know, right here we go the swelling Doe himself and
is the arena?

Speaker 7 (01:20:05):
Mike Harmon next right here on Fox. Who's ready for
another round of chaos? Week three of the National Football
League just five hours away. Yeah, we got one pesky
game in the book. We'll get to that in a minute.
Full date of Action f one, getting ready to go.
We got the WNBA Playoffs around the corner, and today

(01:20:27):
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(01:20:51):
should be. And you know what, my my daughter, the
soccer gods I want to say for her team. They're
keeping me from making a sojourn to San Diego to
watch that in person. Gentlemen, so I gotta say thank
you to the scheduling gods to save me from having
to sit through that one line and the living in color?

Speaker 2 (01:21:08):
Are we all doing this morning? Andy, I got a
quick question. It's great seeing you. We love you to death.
We can't wait for Sundays. But you said getting ready
for a day of chaos. I'm confused. Is that the
schedule of the NFL or is that our show?

Speaker 7 (01:21:21):
That's a little bit of everything. I mean, we want
to clear we go localize it first. And Mark Ramsey
has this really impish, evil smile on his face right now, Andy, Bucky,
I mean, if you saw this right now, it's like
he's getting ready to just hit something on that board
to really take us down a deep dark path. But yeah,
you got to localize it first. So we'll find a
little bit of chaos, maybe a couple of arguments, a

(01:21:43):
couple of the games we still need to get through. Uh,
you get to play therapists for an hour because Bucky
and I are coming off of some really terrible losses
from our college teams here, so those basketball gamal You know,
also to reports about Mac Brown and what might have
been said about his time and tenure there at North

(01:22:07):
Carolina and what he means to the program, or if
his better should he step away? All of that, I
got a guy kicking a field goal, you know, eighteen
yard field goal. You're down seventeen to two. You kick
an eighteen yard field goal, You've moved the ball not
at all. You kick an eighteen yard field goal. I'm
still trying to get over that one. So all of

(01:22:28):
that to say, yeah, it's localized, and then we'll get
into the NFL slate because, let's face it, through two weeks,
I don't know that we have any idea what to
expect except for one or two teams on either end
of the spectrum. Bucky.

Speaker 4 (01:22:41):
Yeah, no, I mean it's kind of crazy, like just
the way that things can unfold and unravel so quickly
in the National Football League, and how everything is just bananas.
I think the great thing about it is we always
talked about it's a marathon, not a sprance.

Speaker 5 (01:22:56):
So we're going to see what it looks like at
the end of the marathon.

Speaker 7 (01:22:59):
Well, I mean to put it in, then we'll talk
about the game later. I know you guys were talking
a little bit about the Jaguars, right you're working with them,
Bucky at Bucky Brooks where you find two losses by
a combined eight points. So while it's not pretty and
the stats aren't sexy, and Trevor Lawrence certainly under fire,
as as is Peterson. You know all of that to say,

(01:23:20):
I mean, that's one possession and that's two losses. That's
the margin of error in the National Football League. That
can you know, ball bounces your way all of a sudden,
you're back to even.

Speaker 4 (01:23:32):
Yeah, it's so crazy, like so to think about the Jaguars,
and specifically you talked about a team that was walking
into the end zone to go up twenty four to
seven against the Miami Dolphins, right to blow this game open.

Speaker 5 (01:23:44):
For it to flip completely.

Speaker 4 (01:23:46):
They lose that game and then they lose another game,
and it's like the sky is falling. It's just it's
just look, it's just a real reminder and just how
tenuous these games are and how look how the margins
the margins of error are so tiny in between like winning.

Speaker 7 (01:24:00):
And lose, Andy and and your Bengals squad. I mean,
I'm sure feeling it locally there the coverage after the
loss to Kansas City. I was in a sports bar
here in southern California and watched a couple of folks
that I was fearful they just walked into the Pacific Ocean.

Speaker 2 (01:24:20):
Well, you know, this is exactly what the NFL wants,
and that's why they create the draft because right now
there is so much balance in this league and you
have no idea what's going on. I mean, who thought
that the Baltimore Ravens would be owing to at this
point in time?

Speaker 3 (01:24:33):
Really?

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
Who thought the New Orleans Saints will be putting up
forty seven and forty four points respectively in the last
two weeks. But again, who thought the Bengals would once
again start off O one two after a demoralizing opening
day loss to the New England Patriots. They come back
and they just missed beating the Kansas City Chiefs. And

(01:24:53):
remember people forget about the you know McPherson's missed extra
point over there too in that ball game would have
put it in a tie situation. So there's a lot
of factors that go went through. But it's great football
because it's exciting football. You don't know what they get.
But in Cincinnati, and I mentioned this to Bucky earlier today,
you know they're crying. Well, it's a moral victory. No
it's not it's the flating loss. That's basically what it was.

Speaker 7 (01:25:17):
Well, it it goes to script because the Bengals don't
start playing till Week three. It seems, I guess, is
that one and eleven under Zach Taylor right in the.

Speaker 3 (01:25:26):
First two weeks of seas.

Speaker 7 (01:25:28):
I mean, really, come on, But that's the larger arge,
larger theory that we need to talk about. With the
NFL in September, it seems more and more teams have
adopted the old New England Patriots style of, Hey, we
got to find ourselves because you only get in two
preseason games. No matter what you're doing with these intersqua
intersquad scrimmages and workouts ahead of preseason games, it does

(01:25:51):
feel like it It is a feeling out process. In
these first couple of weeks, I think we as fans
kind of lose the products suffers. I mean, look at
the play called distribution. I'm not so sure some of
that isn't you know, as you know Melca Kuyper, can
you know lament the too high safety look? Part of
it is you just don't have timing established. Not to

(01:26:11):
mention the number of quarterbacks that I think every how
many cities in the NFL, they look at their guy
after two weeks a going, yeah, I really like that
guy that could be coming into the draft, whether you're
actually going to have any viability and opportunity to go
get them or not. As a whole other thing, just
a lot of the teams actually love their quarterback.

Speaker 2 (01:26:29):
No, I will say this, at least some of the
quarterbacks are upright. I mean after two weeks, I get it.
I mean people are still feeling out what the team
is going to be. We have no idea, but look
at the injuries have happened. Justin Herbert may not be
playing today, and to me, that's like going to a
Broadway show and seeing an understudy.

Speaker 3 (01:26:43):
I want to see the regular guys play.

Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
And if it means not going to an eighteen game schedule,
so be it. Because Bucky, you know this as well
as anybody. You don't have to be a genius to
figure this out. The more games you play, the more
chance of injury.

Speaker 5 (01:26:57):
Yeah, what says you play you do have a greater
chance of injury.

Speaker 4 (01:27:00):
I think the approach is always interesting for everybody at
the beginning of the year. How do you elect to
go about your work during preseason.

Speaker 5 (01:27:08):
Do you want to play you guys? Do you want
to conserve you guys?

Speaker 4 (01:27:11):
How do you want to ramp up into the season
Because some coaches will say, hey, the first four games
are for us to figure out who we are, what
we're about, and how we're going to proceed after that.
I think the main thing you have to do is
as a coach, you gotta have a good sense of
who your team is and what they need at those moments.
And if you have a veteran team that doesn't need
a lot of work to do in preseason, you don't have.

Speaker 5 (01:27:31):
To give them work.

Speaker 4 (01:27:32):
But if you have a young team that needs that work,
that needs to improve, you give them that.

Speaker 5 (01:27:36):
I think everything is based on that.

Speaker 4 (01:27:40):
And look, no two solutions or approaches are right given
the circumstances of your team.

Speaker 7 (01:27:45):
Now, remember Andreie Andy, no matter how many guys go down,
at the end of the day, we love our stars,
but we're still cheering for laundry, right right. I mean,
I don't mean to denigrate any of the stars, right
justin Herbert drops in the middle of a PRESCA availability
session that it's a high ankle spray and everybody does

(01:28:06):
the double take on you mean, I gotta watch Easton
Stick this weekend in what was already gonna be a
rock fight between the Chargers and the Steelers over under.
In that game, guys thirty four and a half the
last time I looked with downward pressure, trying to perhaps
break through that key number. But all that to say,
let's put it aside, Let's take a deep breath, and

(01:28:27):
let's get our first game up.

Speaker 11 (01:28:28):
On the board.

Speaker 3 (01:28:29):
Ravensid Cowboys.

Speaker 7 (01:28:30):
Now we're talking about a desperation because all the headlines
are already written for tomorrow. It's just which one we
put in front of us. As we open our microphones,
we look at this. The Ravens obviously the narrow miss
in week one, give away a game in week two,
Derreck Henry thirty one carries one hundred and thirty yards,
Lamar Jackson doing it all, likely their leading receiver. And

(01:28:52):
then you've got Zay Flowers in a nice follow up campaign,
but not being able to finish off all off season.
I heard from my people in Baltimore we don't have
a number one corner. Well, they'll get tested today. The
Cowboys they can't run the ball, but they can find
Ceedee Lamb three point seven yards per carry composite from
this Cowboys assembly of running backs in this one Baltimore

(01:29:16):
and narrow one point favorite on the road. Forty seven
and a half is the total? Which headline do we
get to run with tomorrow? Andy?

Speaker 2 (01:29:24):
You know what, It's funny because the Cowboys really really will.
I mean, they got beat up pretty good last week
forty four to nineteen to New Orleans. So to me
game in Dallas, and you know, everybody looks at personnel
and say, well, this is a matchup here. No, I
look at it as a more of a mental game.
I think they bounced back. I think they bounced back
being in Dallas. I think this team is too good
to fall back again and lose again. The Ravens really

(01:29:47):
they got some problems because Derek Henry has been bottled up.
He really has by the opposing defenses. Whether he's seeing
the end of his career. Really maybe the tires are
being worn off on the rubber. I don't know, but
it's not that Derek Henry that know. Certainly, Lamar Jackson
right there, he's carrying the load, but you know, and
he's electric as a runner. I don't know how much
more he could do for that ball club. So really

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and truly, I like C. D. Lamp to have a
day and I like Dallas to win.

Speaker 5 (01:30:15):
Yeah, I'm gonna opposite. I'm gonna go with to Baltimore Ravens.

Speaker 3 (01:30:17):
Of course you want to.

Speaker 4 (01:30:18):
Of course the Ravens are the better overall team. They
haven't played the right way, but the betters, the Ravens
are are much better. To me, they're back in the corner.
That's typically when they respond with greatness coming back. Look
for them to how can I say this smoke the Cowboys?

Speaker 3 (01:30:37):
Oh my goodness. Yes, it's gonna be decided by a
field goal.

Speaker 7 (01:30:41):
See, I'm kind of leaning towards the Bucky way of
looking at this.

Speaker 3 (01:30:45):
Oh man, just you.

Speaker 7 (01:30:47):
Know the fact that Dallas can't run the football, and
go back to Week one when they quote unquote beat
down Cleveland. What do they have to do? They had
to bring out super tow time and time again. Hey,
field goal kicker, you got fifty five in you. Let's
see what you got. Can we keep pushing this back?

Speaker 3 (01:31:02):
How far?

Speaker 7 (01:31:03):
It was like he was doing pregame warm ups in
the middle of a game. What's your range today? That
does not bode well today.

Speaker 4 (01:31:11):
It doesn't bow well, and you're right, super toe go
back and look how they want you talk about all
the field goals and a pun return touchdown. I mean,
like that's that's what we're talking about. Like all those
things typically don't happen within a week.

Speaker 2 (01:31:22):
So yeah, okay, you guys are looking at the past.
I want to defend myself here because both of you
guys are beating me down pretty good, and so I
could handle it.

Speaker 3 (01:31:30):
I got big should Yeah you beat that.

Speaker 7 (01:31:32):
All we did was I got a compu we relate
a counterpoint.

Speaker 3 (01:31:37):
I understand.

Speaker 2 (01:31:38):
But the point is that I understand what you're telling
me what happened, and you talking about personnel and what's
going on. But doesn't the fact that they lost the
Dallas Cowboys big time last week? Doesn't that mean something
to come back and say we're not that team, We're
not that we're gonna come back at home.

Speaker 3 (01:31:55):
We can't do this again. Well you're not that team.

Speaker 7 (01:31:58):
Bucky, y'all leave that one for you. Sports psychology.

Speaker 5 (01:32:02):
I mean, I don't know, like your team is your
team home.

Speaker 4 (01:32:08):
It doesn't change, Like it's not like Randy White and
too Tall Jones and the doomsday defense is going to
run out and you know Emmit Smith is not going
to run through the tunnel like right.

Speaker 2 (01:32:17):
But they put up thirty three against Cleveland and they
only goes put up nineteen against New Orleans, So I
just you know, you don't know what you got yet.

Speaker 3 (01:32:24):
I think they come back.

Speaker 5 (01:32:25):
New Orleans scored on their first six possessions.

Speaker 3 (01:32:31):
To react for MVP.

Speaker 7 (01:32:33):
Oh yeah, just a coach of the year, coach of
the year pre snap motion who knew uh and a
healthy Alvin Kamara who's not bothered by off field distractions
and contract talk. Feed him the ball, take your shots downfield.
I think Derek Carr has already throwing the ball downfield
more in two games than he's done in full seasons

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in the past. I mean, Rashid Shaheed is is loving life.
It's like, wait, I'm gonna get on to the ease
every game because I can run pass guys, let's go.

Speaker 3 (01:33:03):
I am not.

Speaker 2 (01:33:04):
Switching, as much as you want to talk it to me.
And I know Derek cars at one hundred and forty
two passing percentage leading in the league. I'm not changing.
I'm sticking to my guns.

Speaker 7 (01:33:12):
All right. I dig a man with confidence and resolve.
It's my guy. It's Andy Furman. FSR is where you
find about Twitter five, Bucky at Bucky Brooks, read him
anfl dot com. You see him there, you see him
on FS one, you see him all over the place
working with the Jaguars. We'll get to that game because
we get a double Monday night affair this week. Gentlemen,

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blast with you Week three of the National Football League season.
As we get going, guys, we do have one game

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in the books. Just do a quick drive by Jets
New England twenty four to three, a beat down. The
under hits very nicely for betters, never in doubt as
the New England offense struggled to mount much of anything.
Romandre Stevenson, who you might have expected a big workload. No,
just six carries in the game. But for the Jets,
Bucky had take away from this Aaron Rodgers moving side

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to side, whatever the results, was a good thing to
see after some stiffness in week twenty two.

Speaker 5 (01:35:31):
Yeah. No, it's going to continue to be a work
in progress.

Speaker 4 (01:35:34):
It reminds me very much like when Kobe was coming
back off his Achilles like it took him a while
to kind of get into his stride and to know
his limitations in terms of movement, agility, what he feels,
how he's comfortable within the pocket, particularly when the pocket
is collapsing, and so as he continues to have more
confidence in that leg, his game will improve and their

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offense will become more efficient and more explosive.

Speaker 5 (01:35:57):
Defensively, man, they played pretty lights out. Now.

Speaker 4 (01:36:00):
We can talk about the lack of talent on the
other side, but for the Jets, they have to control
what they can control them. They can control the way
their defense performs each and every week. They have superior
talent at all positions, so they should be good on
defense if their offense can get going under Aaron Rodgers,
very dangerous.

Speaker 2 (01:36:16):
Team Andy are you waiting for me?

Speaker 7 (01:36:21):
Yeah, I was waiting for you to come over the top.

Speaker 3 (01:36:23):
I tell you why.

Speaker 2 (01:36:24):
I listened to Bucky Brooks with both years. That's why
God gave me two years. And I learned so much
from him because he always talks about balance. And this
Jets team right now, with a healthy Aaron Rodgers has balance.
How Brace Hall, Garrett Wilson, Brayln Allen, Allen Lazard. They
got balance on the offensive side. We know the defense
is good, but Bucky, am I taking a page out

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of you book my learning from you?

Speaker 3 (01:36:46):
Is the balance really good?

Speaker 2 (01:36:47):
That's what makes them so successful because you know what
Aaron Rodgers could do when he's healthy, and he showed
us the other night and the twenty four to three win.
But now they got the balance on the offensive side
of the ball.

Speaker 4 (01:36:57):
Yeah, I mean it is about the balance on the
offense of the ball, being able to give them big plays, points,
being able to finish games because you have a quarterback
who knows how to win games. From a managerial standpoint,
that defense has been good enough the last couple of
years for this team to make a run. Offensively, they
turned it over. They just put themselves behind the eight ball.

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I think it's still a work in progress, but this
team looks like it's trending in the right direction.

Speaker 7 (01:37:22):
And even if you try to take Garrett Wilson away,
I guess what. The one guy that can make Allenlizard
useful in the NFL is back under center to do that,
and he can make hack it look reasonably efficient as
an offensive corner. See what I did there, and Andy, Really,
all we're doing is channeling the philosophy of Arnold Schwarzenegger
from the nineteen seventy seven documentary Pumping Iron. Always work

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for balance and definition. Yes, it worked for him to
be a seven time mister Olympians. So I got to
take some pots.

Speaker 3 (01:37:54):
There was a takeaway from that ballgame when Aaron Rodgers
kind of was staring down his.

Speaker 2 (01:37:58):
Coach Roberts Sala like a little shoving match that. I mean,
could we read into that a little bit? Did it
mean anything? I mean, they were rolling pretty good. Was
it like Rogers saying I told you I could I mean,
what was that all about it?

Speaker 7 (01:38:10):
He intends? He said he got him his two score lead.
Is what Rogers tried to say in post. Whether you
buy it or not. Look, they don't have to like
each other. I heard you guys talking about it before.
I mean, it would be nice if everybody was on
the same page, but you know, you don't have to.
And then that particular and in that particular moment, like
and coming into the year, right, everyone's ever since Aaron

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went on his unexcused or inexcused sojourn and Salo went
to the podium to talk about it, I think that
probably ruffled some feathers, Like, you know, you could have
covered for it, even if it was you disagreed with it.
There's no reason. And he's coming back to the building,
I think, so it wasn't why create an issue where

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there was, Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:38:54):
Salaly should be spouf to realize, say, you know what,
I'm not going to be around if he's not successful.

Speaker 2 (01:38:58):
That that's the bottom line. Really, I mean the Jets,
as Aaron Rodgers goes, so go to New York Jets.
And so there's Robert Salad's job. He came into the
season on the so called hot seat as a coach.
So you know why, cause why I have a rift
with your quarterback, the guy who's gonna help you get there,
not maybe to the Super Bowl, believest to the playoffs
deep hopefully.

Speaker 5 (01:39:20):
Yeah, I don't know if it's necessarily riff.

Speaker 4 (01:39:22):
I think sometimes been in games the heat of the moment,
like there are always these contentious conversations.

Speaker 5 (01:39:26):
And Aaron Rodgers Robert solid whether they're celebrating or not.

Speaker 4 (01:39:29):
Like Aaron Rodgers to me appears to be one of
those guys who plays at his best when he has
a little.

Speaker 5 (01:39:35):
Edge too sure.

Speaker 4 (01:39:36):
And so if you have a very edgy quarterback and
a very emotional head coach, which is what Robert who
he is. When you watch him with all the emotional outbursts,
the highs of the highs, the lows or the lows,
you're gonna have some of those moments. So we just
shouldn't read into it. They're winning and as long as
they're winning, that relationship will be fine.

Speaker 5 (01:39:54):
It only will be an.

Speaker 4 (01:39:55):
Issue if they lose three to four in a row,
then you may see some some fireworks.

Speaker 7 (01:40:00):
Well that's it. Everybody can write their big thought pieces
and have them at the ready, right and if it
goes south, you use it. If not, it's kindling. As
it starts getting colder in the Midwest and in the East.
See what I did there I was. I was good
for everybody there. All right, let's get a game in
before we get an update.

Speaker 3 (01:40:17):
Lions Aid Cardinals.

Speaker 7 (01:40:18):
Now, this one's fun. Fifty one and a half, Detroit
a three point favorite on the road. People still wanting
to see a little more from Arizona before they jump
on board. Despite the early heroics Kyler Murray seventy three
percent completion rate, four touchdown, zero interception. Yeah, he's taken
five sacks. That comes with it with the scrambling, but
good balance with Connor. And after week one everybody was wondering, hey,

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he and Marvin Harrison Junior're gonna get along well. Marvin
Harrison Junior had himself a day last week. Trey McBride
doing his thing as well. On the other side for Detroit,
the boob birds are out for Jared Goff sixty two
point seven percent, touchdown, three picks already, people already finding
Dan ca Amble's house, which is a whole other level

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of chaos. But Jamison Williams coming up as a star
here thus far, two hundred yards receiving already four big plays.
When we start doing that, that count on the leader board.
That's always important to try to get those big, big explosives,
make things a little easier and get the defense on
their heels. Fifty one and a half and again Detroit
a road favorite. What do you think, Bucky, Let's start

(01:41:24):
with you.

Speaker 5 (01:41:26):
I'm gonna go with Detroit. And part of my restionale
for doing it is because Dan Campbell.

Speaker 4 (01:41:32):
Dan Campbell being able to own the mistakes that he
makes in games. I just love his transparency. I think
it bowls will in terms of retaining the trust that
he has from the team. The team trust him because
he stands in front of him. He gives them the truth,
and that is going to set them free. Give me thelliance.

Speaker 2 (01:41:50):
I worry about Dan campbll because should they lose today,
which I don't think they will, does he have to
move again? That's the problem he soldest. I mean, you know,
we talked about this earlier today. There were so many
coaches in the past and Detroit that couldn't win out
of a paper bag, and they never had the problems
that Dan Campbell had. But I guess because the expectations
are a lot higher. But again, the Lions lost last
bit because they were sloppy and foolish mistakes Jared goff

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had two winterceptions, but there was another play in the
first half way back when if you remember, but the
offense and the special teams were on the field at
the same time and they couldn't get a field goal.
That's not going to happen again. They're gonna win. It's
gonna be close, but the Lions are gonna win.

Speaker 7 (01:42:27):
Devil in the details, you know what. We've got another
guy with a unique perspective on this prior to Detroit.
He's at the update desk, so we'll get a full
update in a minute. But since this game's on the slate,
I bring in Chris Burfett to add his expertise here.
What do you got, Chris?

Speaker 9 (01:42:41):
You mentioned sloppiness, and one of the other things we
should probably mention there is the Tigers. I mean, Lions
didn't actually do bad offensively, had four hundred and over
four hundred and ninety yards of offense against the against
the Buccaneers, but they were one in seven in the
red zone. That's a play calling issue. They kind of
you know, you need Jared goff Ian offensive coordinator Ben
Johnson to kind of get back to what has made

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them great. What, you know, get getting to move in Temple. Also,
Jared goff through fifty five times against the Buccaneers. The
Lions are predicated on a balanced offense and running the ball,
and I think they'll try to get back to that
against the front seven of the Cardinals, who probably aren't
going to present the same kind of threat that Tampa
Bay would upfront.

Speaker 7 (01:43:23):
There you go, and Tampa Bay losing VDAVEA. That's part
of the subplots for today here in week three, as
we get into the injuries and information of note. So
take it away, Chris Purffett. 't's go to the update desk.

Speaker 9 (01:43:37):
All right, Let's keep on the on the Cardinals Lions
for a second. Because Greg wide receiver Greg Dorts was
listed as questionable. He is going to be playing for
the Arizona Cardinals state. The Lions also elevated wide receiver
Tim Patrick from the practice squad. Tim Patrick last played
for the Denver Broncos Colts. Wide receiver Michael Pittman Junior
was also questionable, but he is expected to play today.

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In quarterback news, Chargers quarterback Justin Herbert is dealing with
a high ankle sprain, but the team is not expected
to make a decision on his status probably until about pregame.
Warn ups they're being careful and elle and having two
other quarterbacks ready to go, but you know, Justin Herbert
has played through worse in his career so far. Packers
are going to be starting Malik Willis. I think that

(01:44:18):
was expected, but they've kept Jordan Love questionable on the
injury report, probably to probably less about any kind of
quick turnaround, more just mind games. But Milik Willis will
be starting, and they've elevated Sean Clifford from their practice
squad today for their game against the Titans. Forty nine ers.
Nick Bosa is dealing with a rib injury, but he's

(01:44:38):
expected today. Not so much for the tight end for
the forty nine ers George Kittle, he's been downgraded to out.
Saints Taysom Hill is doubtful for their game and the
Jaguars have rolled out Titan Evan Engram for their matchup.
Brown's left tackle Jedrick Willis is going to be making
his season debut today as they as the Browns take
on the New York Giants. Texans are without Mix and

(01:45:00):
he didn't travel with the team yesterday, and as you say,
Buccaneers have downgraded Vita Veay and Cameron Johnson to out.
One more report from the NFL in spite of head
coach Dave Kanal is saying the Panthers will not trade
Bryce Young Adam Schefter was reporting several teams have made
eight trading quarries into the number in, the former number
one overall pick. In rapport of NFL network is also

(01:45:22):
saying that in spite of the benches. In spite of
the benching, his sources are saying the Panthers are expected
to start Bryce young ET's again at some point this season,
but for today, Andy Dalton will be under center against
the Raiders. Last night, in college football, Colorado survived Baylor
in overtime thirty eight thirty one, a last second Hail

(01:45:42):
Mary from Shader Sanders in overtime coming through to keep
the Boffs in this game, and they end on going
to defeat the Baylor Bears in overtime by you crushed
number thirteen Kansas State thirty eight to nine in an
absolute drubbing, and after his end and after a crushing
defeat at the hands of James Madison seventy to fifty,

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North Carolina head coach Mack Brown told reporters that he
has no plans to retire. I believe North Carolina was
a prohibitive favorite going into that game. Number six Tennessee
over number fifteen Oklahoma twenty five to fifteen, Number twelve
Utah twenty two to nineteen over number fourteen Oklahoma. State

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arch Manning had his debut for the Texas Longhorns. He
was a fifteen of twenty nine, two hundred and fifty
eight yards, two touchdowns, but two interceptions. He was given
a C plus, apparently from some on on his outing there.
Last night, in baseball, the AL wild card race looks
to be heating up tremendously. Mariners took a win over

(01:46:45):
the Texas Rangers, eight to four. They are now one
and a half games back of that third wildcard spot,
hoping to keep their dreams alive. Tiger's over the Orioles
six to four to be about a half game back.
Royals lose their sixth in a row, falling to the
Johniens nine zero, and that deciding factor the Twins. Their
game against the Red Sox was rained out. Meanwhile, for

(01:47:06):
the NL Wildcard, the Braves are still two games back
of the Mets as Atlant defeats the Marlin six to two,
and we did mention the Al Central quite a bit there.
Guardians clinched their third Al Central crown in a row
in spite of a loss to Saint Louis six to five.
We've got the Singapore Grand Prix in Formula one ongoing
right now, Lando Norris for McLaren is in the lead,

(01:47:27):
Maximus stop in a second Russell, and just a race
between those two to see if Lando Norris can actually
catch up with seven races left in the Formula one season.
Also yesterday, in boxing for the IBF Heavyweight Championship, Anthony
Joshua was knocked out in the fifth round by reigning

(01:47:48):
champion Daniel du Bois, which is shocking because Joshua, as
at one point was a minus five hundred favorite, and
because I have to get in some soccer because I
know it'll terrorize Andy year. Inter Miami players earned five
of nine yellow cards in a one to one draw
against New York City FC, denting their lead in the

(01:48:09):
supporters Shield. Lionel Messi had the game winning the apparent
game winning goal from Miami until a game tangle in
the dying seconds by New York's James sand and a
scary incident in NWSL yesterday as well. United States women's
national team player Trinity Rodman had to leave the game
in a wheelchair after a back injury. The Washington Spirit

(01:48:32):
have not updated that situation yet. They're flying her back
to Washington for further evaluation. Guys, back to you.

Speaker 7 (01:48:40):
Thanks so much. Chris at Chrispurfat where you find him,
Mike harmon Fox Football Sunday, alongside my guys, Andy Furman,
Bucky Brooks. Let's get back into the games, fellas. Let's
catch to feed the pace. Forty nine hit Rams, another
big game, Last Man Standing wins. Let's call it that
now forty nine or six and a half point favorites
on the road against the Rams Rams both their wide receivers,

(01:49:01):
offensive lineman, defensive backs, you name it. It's like the
end of a cable movie at this point that is
in the scroll as they start another movie, you know
where they speed up the credits. Really really a lot
because that's the injury list for Bold squad. You heard
from Chris, the George Kittle out we already know debos
out Rock Party standing upright. Turning to Jordan Mason, quite

(01:49:24):
frequently in this one, Andy Furman, This battle of NFC
West heavyweights not quite so heavy.

Speaker 2 (01:49:32):
In Week three, well, forty nine Is were the prohibitive
favorites in that division, and right now whoever thought the
Rams would be O went two.

Speaker 3 (01:49:37):
However, no Pooka, no Cooper. Okay, they got no Cooper poopa,
but again really that's what they've got actually done. There
you go.

Speaker 2 (01:49:46):
But the forty nine Is still have a high powered offense.
I think San Francisco is still just a shade even
with all the interests is shave without George Kittle, there's
just a shade better than the Rams right now. They're
just so beat up on the offensive line as well.
I still like the forty nine Ers in this game.

Speaker 7 (01:50:04):
Kyron Williams averaging just two point five yards per carry.
Remember he stepped out of bounds opened the door to
the eventual loss. Going back to Week one, Bucky Brooks.

Speaker 4 (01:50:14):
Yeah, when you look at what the Niners, I just
think this is a desperation game for them. They know
their backs are up against the wall because they can't
keep losing games.

Speaker 5 (01:50:24):
They haven't really played at their best.

Speaker 4 (01:50:26):
I think they bounce back against the Rams a lot
of conversation about who's house.

Speaker 5 (01:50:31):
I think it in the Night of Beauty four.

Speaker 7 (01:50:32):
Oh there you go. The most infernal, insane chance that
I want to go and find all power chords. I'll
go full Electro and Jamie Fox going back to the
Amazing Spider Man two. I'll go tear that thing up.
I'll risk the eels if I need to to take
the grid down. When that guy starts yelling that, how

(01:50:53):
about that and not the video that you know Jerry
Jones evaluating draft prospects. You got to pay attention to
the inter webs, folks. It gives you gold left and right.
Let's get another game in Chief said Falcons. All right,
this one is a big one. Everybody down playing the Chiefs. Look,
you can only be who's on the schedule. You near
missus still count as w's. Yes, they informed some things,

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but as we've talked about with teams doing the work
in progress, that's kind of been the Chiefs mo of late,
bringing in new bodies and trying to figure it out.
Travis Kelcey acknowledges his slow start. You've got some deep
plays from Patrick Mahomes early on. Has it been pretty
no three touchdowns three picks. We can get deep into that.
Pacheco lost indefinitely with the broken leg, so now it's

(01:51:39):
up to steal. I mean, it's a good name for
a running back. Three point favorites on the road against
Atlanta forty six and a half. I'm still wondering what
the hell Vic Vangio was doing, not at least rushing
a guy once who could move off the spot last
week in Kirk Cousins. I get it. It's normally not
your m o to blitz, but hey, mixing one in
on a seventy yard drive that comes back to eventually

(01:52:01):
beat you might have been nice. What say you, Bucky?
How does this one work out?

Speaker 4 (01:52:07):
Yeah, it's to the Eagles have played pretty well, but
you talk about letting one slip. Because of that, they
bounce back sakuon Barkley dropping the pass at the end.
It's lit a lot of conversation and consternation and the
city of brotherly love.

Speaker 5 (01:52:20):
Let's go with the Eagles in this.

Speaker 7 (01:52:21):
One, Bucky. Thanks appreciate that. Andy. We'll continue. We'll go
back into that game in a minute as we flow through.
We got a couple of games left on the slate,
so let's pause there at Andy Furman FSR at Bucky
Brooks where you find him. Find me over at Swollen Dome.
It's Fox Football Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. Hey, welcome

(01:52:44):
back into the tyrack dot Com, Fox Sports Radio Studios,
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With you at Andy Furman FSR at Bucky Brooks. Find
me over at Swollen Dome as we've got a couple
of games left to finish off. Did all the principles
in the Kansas City Atlanta game, but we didn't get
to finish picking that one. Kansas City three point favorite

(01:53:09):
on the road Atlanta with the big win on Monday night,
Folks still not buying in. It is Arthur Blank Celebration Day,
so you get free hot dogs and commemorative cup. I'd
love to walk around like a boss with a commemorative
cup with Arthur Blank in a suit on it. Let
me tell you so, I'll be going to eBay later
on to procure one of those. Yeah, you get to
drink the coke, but I'll be having that cup on

(01:53:32):
my wall. Andy Ferma, let's start with you. You know you.

Speaker 2 (01:53:35):
Got the Chiefs that are on the field, and everybody's
saying that they will weis meet because Travis Kelsey's got
four receptions.

Speaker 3 (01:53:41):
Of thirty nine yards in the first two Bowl games.

Speaker 2 (01:53:43):
But you know what, when you got guys at Pachaco,
you got Rice, you know they got the talent, They
got players out there, so they'll be fine. The only
problem is I think there's an Achilles heel here. Maybe
with Kansas City is the secondary. The Chiefs have not
done really that well stopping the pass. However, I don't
think they have that many weapons in Atlanta to hurt
them and Kirk Cousins. Right now, you don't know which

(01:54:05):
kirk Cousins you're going to get today. I like Kansas City.

Speaker 4 (01:54:11):
Yeah, mentioned Kansas City would be my pick two. You
talked about Kirk Cousins and the Falcons. If not for
Miraculus drive at the.

Speaker 5 (01:54:18):
End of the game.

Speaker 4 (01:54:18):
Look, they go down two, they'll have some momentum coming back.
But the back to back champs just continue to find
a way to win games. They've mastered the art of winning.
They continue their mastery this week. I got the Chiefs.

Speaker 7 (01:54:30):
I'm looking at that defensive front to get Kirk Cousins
off the spot natural pressure and bringing a little bit
of heat. Seeing what he's got cooking for that next
Jaguars and Bills. All right, let's get into it. We
talked about it a little bit earlier with the numbers
of what we've seen thus far. Trevor Lawrence fifty one
percent completion rate, He's absorbed seven sacks in those games
against Miami and Cleveland etn ninety six yards two scores,

(01:54:55):
should have had a third, but the fumble goes the
other way, and well, we know how history was in
week one. On the other side for Buffalo finding life
without Stefan Diggs, it's been just fine. James Cook out
of the backfield, Shakir Coleman, Kincaid, you name it, guys
stepping up and into the fray in this one. It
is Buffalo minus five. Forty five and a half is

(01:55:18):
your total. Bucky will just start with your game analysis
of this one. What are you expecting the Jags to
bring to the Bills here.

Speaker 4 (01:55:25):
Look, it is a tough games, tough matchup for the
jag Jags would be in desperation most but the Bills
are good. Bill's are good. On prime time, It's gonna
be really difficult to deal with Josh Allen and the
Josh Allen experience of meaning a dual threat playmaker. Someone
Debt down in the red zone you have to account for.
He's found ways to win. And when I look at
this defense and von Miller coming back, man, it's just

(01:55:45):
tough sledding. As hopeful as I am on the Jags,
the Bills appear to have the nod of this one.

Speaker 2 (01:55:51):
You know, I'm gonna go with the Bills too, but
I'll tell you what. Here's a key right here. Two
starting linebackers for Buffalo are out Milano and Bernard. So
if Buffalo the Aguars the Jacks could get their running
gave Ten could get going, which I don't know. If
he can, they can make a game of it. But again,
I just think the Bills are just a better team.
They really are. And it's funny because you mentioned Stefan

(01:56:11):
Diggson company. You know, when they lost him, they say, oh,
always me. They're playing better football now with him. I
think they're playing more as a unit. I think they
enjoy each other better for some reason. They're just playing
better football. So I like Buffalo in this one.

Speaker 7 (01:56:24):
You've even had Josh Allen allude to that a little
bit in the past at the podium and on the
sidelines and the post. That's right, I'm selling the hell
out of this game. Let's go, Andy Dalton, the red rifle,
get in the star. Come on now, one and one
are the Raiders come back? Win over the Ravens. Gardner
Minshew third in the NFL five hundred and thirty three

(01:56:46):
passing yards. Guys, he's completing seventy eight percent of his
pass Sure it's not October. He hasn't turned into a
pumpkin yet. But opportunity knocks Konz goes to the ir
so you lose one of the pass rushers. Conversia, let's
find some positivity from what we've seen from Caroline. Look,
I'm trying here two big plays in the passing game,
feeling and Jonathan Mingo Juba Hubbard is averaging four point

(01:57:07):
nine yards per carry? Is that enough? Vegas? Are they
still feeling that victory? They're given five over under at
thirty nine and a half, Yes, thirty nine and a half,
and we're pushing it.

Speaker 3 (01:57:18):
What do you think, Andy, Well, I'll tell you right now.

Speaker 2 (01:57:20):
I mean I think the Panthers think a quarterback change
is going to make a difference. They got Andy Daltony
as the started at game since twenty twenty two. They're
not going to make much of a difference. They're a
pathetic team. They really have no shines, no signs of life.

Speaker 3 (01:57:30):
They're on life support and they really are. They're terrible.
Red is win.

Speaker 7 (01:57:34):
How do you really.

Speaker 5 (01:57:35):
Feel normally when you have these things? You may get
an emotional bump.

Speaker 4 (01:57:40):
Let's just say that emotional bup carries for one game,
and in that one game, the Carolina Panthers find a
way to win against the Raiders. It is unimprobable to
think about the Panthers winning a ton of games. But today,
on any given Sunday, today, maybe the Panthers let's.

Speaker 7 (01:57:55):
Go, oh my word, let's go red rifle and everything
is crazy at all allegiant as the death star blows up.
All right, we got one more game. It's another Monday
night affair, and commanders aid Bengals, all right, Cincinnati seven
point favorites, forty seven and a half. Jayden Daniels thus far, everybody,
all those rookie quarterbacks still looking for their first passing touchdowns.

(01:58:16):
By the way, but he's running in a couple of times,
giving you some opportunity. One hundred and thirty two rushing yards.
He has absorbed seven sacks for the Bengals. Still waiting
for the run game to click. There and all the
discord at wide receivers certainly not helping things. But let's
face it, they don't play well in the first two
weeks of this season ever, So Bucky, I'll start with you,

(01:58:37):
because we got to give Andy the last word on
the Bengals.

Speaker 4 (01:58:42):
Bengals get back on track, they find a way to
get back on track. All the discord, all the whatever
they've been in disarrayed like this before.

Speaker 5 (01:58:48):
Joe Burrow is too good. They'll find a way to win.

Speaker 2 (01:58:51):
Okay, it's all about the ground game. Right now, Bengals
are giving up almost one hundred and sixty yards a
game on the ground and they don't have much of
a running game yet. So if they get their running
game going, I think they will they take the change.
Joe Burrow's on the field. Let him get what he's
got to do best, and he's got to receive his debt.
Tea Higgins will be playing, Jamar Chase will be chain
playing tomorrow night. I think Bengals win this one.

Speaker 7 (01:59:10):
Let's go Lua a Narumo. Everybody talked about you as
one of the coordinators. We got to watch and right
now we're watching. What are you gonna do that rookies?
Nat run?

Speaker 3 (01:59:19):
Please?

Speaker 7 (01:59:21):
Well, were you gonna find that run stuffer? You ain't
walking through that door?

Speaker 2 (01:59:25):
Well, if they got the running game going, they want
to have to stay on the field.

Speaker 7 (01:59:28):
Well, that's the other part, right when you're leading rusher
has what forty four yards?

Speaker 3 (01:59:32):
That's the key.

Speaker 7 (01:59:32):
It's not good for anybody. He's Andy Furman and Andy
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(02:00:36):
So which game do you got circled for the early win?
A you just gonna take a nap.

Speaker 4 (02:00:43):
Ah man, you know, like Mike, it's funny because I
got my eyes on the Chicago Bears Indianapolis Colts.

Speaker 5 (02:00:50):
And the reason I have my eyes on that one
not because of the entries.

Speaker 7 (02:00:53):
It's because of me. Quarterbacks, it's not because of me.
And you're worried about my mental health.

Speaker 4 (02:00:57):
Yeah, let's see the young quarterback. How the young quarterbacks perform.
For Kayleb Williams, this should be his best performance. And
one of the reasons why is because Gus Bradley is
super simple on defense, like they don't change the picture much.
He's going to walk to the line of scrimmage knowing
exactly what they're in and so now it's on his
ability to execute. For Anthony Richardson is very similar. On

(02:01:18):
the other side, the Bears all mix it up, maybe
a little more than Gus Bradley will for the Colts,
but Matt Uberflus wants to play a show. Defense wants
to keep everything in front. They're gonna allow their guys
to see ball, hit ball, and go get it. And
because of that, both quarterbacks should know what they're facing.
Dennis about the execution part, so I'm excited to see
how these young.

Speaker 7 (02:01:36):
Guys were looking for big play and explosives. That's kind
of what we've seen from Indianapolis thus far. Richardson obviously
the throw of the year, you know, just heaving it
nearly seventy yards in the air for the big completion
to pierce back in Week one, but uneven playing, you know,
a lot of conversations on both the anonymous scouts are
all out in full force for both guys, talking about

(02:01:59):
high school throws and reads and where they are, and
it becomes again the conversation like Brady and others have
had you and I have had this multiple times through
the year's bucky of you know, pressing young quarterbacks into
play great expectations, but oftentimes, particularly in a city like Chicago,
waiting for a savior. You know, again, the White Sox

(02:02:20):
are gonna lose their one hundred and twentieth game of
the year later on. Today, just need to remind you
of the futility of things that you're looking for that hero,
and so the poison pens come along with it really fast. So,
you know, starting a young player, no matter what the
organization has looked like, no matter the history, and you know,

(02:02:40):
it looks better situation wise than it's been in a while.
But you know, lofty expectations not being met, it leads
to folks diving off the bandwagon really fast.

Speaker 5 (02:02:54):
Yeah, no, it's funny how quickly people get off to bandwagon.
It's also family.

Speaker 4 (02:02:57):
And I'll say this as a former player, is under
me to hear so many former players weigh in on
the lack of complexity when it comes to the game,
particularly a quarterback. But guess what, guys, Tom Brady included.
None of the quarterbacks are thrown for a ton of yards.
We're not seeing three hundred yard passing games, and so
we can talk about, oh, they run a high school
offense or whatever. Your job as a coach is to

(02:03:18):
take the people that you have, the personnel that you're given,
and find a way to maximize it. So as much
as we would like to see the complex exit and
o's for Anthony Riguson and Caleb Williams and some of
the other young guys right now, they're they're not capable
of executing it.

Speaker 5 (02:03:33):
At a high level.

Speaker 4 (02:03:34):
If playing in a high school offense gives them the
best opportunity to succeed, then as a coach, your job
is to put then a high school offense and allow
them to play.

Speaker 7 (02:03:44):
Yeah, I mean the big thing has been also just
the idea that they're missing throws that you could get
high level high school guys to make, and you know,
denigrating their aptitude altogether. And we saw that a lot,
certainly with Bryce Young through the first two weeks to
the season. Right what looks to be a simple screen
pass and again easy to me for me to say

(02:04:05):
that from my bully pulpit here on Fox Sports Radio
or my couch as I scream when he goes to
throw the ball in the flat and throws it five
yards short of the guy at his feet, you know,
an uncovered Chewba Hubbard or whoever out of the backfield.
But again, you know the complexities of it all, you know,
trying to peel it back. You know, I think at
times we do it the disservice of you know, not

(02:04:28):
recognizing how difficult that transition.

Speaker 4 (02:04:31):
Is, super difficult transition, you know, Like I just don't
think people want to give young players, or just give
anybody any grace when it comes to the.

Speaker 5 (02:04:42):
Development that is needed.

Speaker 4 (02:04:43):
The importance of experience and how that factors into the situation.

Speaker 5 (02:04:50):
For these young quarterbacks. Man, they just need it.

Speaker 4 (02:04:52):
They need that stuff to help them become better players.
They need to see it multiple times, they need to
wrap it all of that part of it. And unfortunately
we're at a time where we don't have a lot
of patients for it, Like we just kind of tolerted
and let it go. But we should have more patients
for watching our young people, our young players developed.

Speaker 7 (02:05:13):
To this point, we've had five three hundred yard games
and a couple of near missus. Week one, Mahomes went
for ninety one last week. Jared I'm sorry, Dak Prescott
went for two ninety three, just five three hundred yard games.
As we see the run step up and some of
it we talked about last week, Bucky is the idea,
and I joke about super tow. You know the old

(02:05:36):
toy where you'd have to hit the thing on the
head to try to kick a field goal, and you'd
slam it as hard as you could and get up
and do it again, you know what I mean, Like
we had that, we had the basketball Guy. Yeah, that
whole series. I may end up on a shopping spree
on eBay later, but we'll leave that. Maybe maybe I'll
forget about it by time I sit back to the

(02:05:57):
computer later on. But we're changing how we're running offenses
as well, to get points on possessions as opposed to
pushing for touchdowns. I think there's a philosophical change happening
there too.

Speaker 4 (02:06:11):
Well, the game is changing, and I think you have
to be willing to do what the game would allow
you to do.

Speaker 5 (02:06:16):
And so as the game changes.

Speaker 4 (02:06:17):
Meaning we talk about defenses being the fastest adapted organism
known to man count they quickly adapt to whatever offenses
are doing to take it away to take away the
deep shot, and we're seeing more teams are very comfortable
taking away the deep ball forcing you to try and
run the ball. How long will it be before offensive
coordinators say, okay, you.

Speaker 5 (02:06:36):
What you're gonna make me run the ball.

Speaker 4 (02:06:38):
I'm gonna run the football to then set up the
big shots that I want to see. We talk about
the New Orleans Saints and everyone is really excited about
what the Saints are doing. The biggest thing that Klint
Kubiak has done is he's re emphasized the running game.
He's done it with bells and whistles, but Alvin Kamara
is the driving force of the offense, which has allowed
Derek Carr to be comfortable and be more efficient and

(02:06:59):
effect to play action, quick rhythm, other stuff.

Speaker 5 (02:07:03):
It's the running game to sess up to deep shots.

Speaker 4 (02:07:05):
And then two we get back to the running game
kind of being a primary focal point of the offense.
We won't see the deep all come back because there's
no reason to get out of those shell coverages if
I'm not getting bludgeon on the run.

Speaker 7 (02:07:18):
Through two weeks, just thirteen players with twenty or more carries,
So talking about workload splits, balance, et cetera. But yeah,
certainly a bit more reliance there and in New Orleans,
I mean Alvin Kamara, no off field distractions, just going
back to work, right, And we saw him last year
and certainly you know Dan Byer who slid into the

(02:07:38):
update desk here, into the news desk to get us
some of the information and you know, start sits for
guys on the injury report. A little later, we were
talking about it on the I Watch Flex podcast coming
into the year, and he's still caught a ton of
balls last year, just they didn't get the run game
started right, they have more or less abandoned it and

(02:08:00):
used him as a receiver without a lot of big
options in that offense. So seeing what Kubiak's doing here
to start and curious right coming into the year, we
put up our big grid here, Bucky in the studio
and I had the Saints says the all right, let's
be bold because we're not going to take the Panthers
or the Patriots as the worst team. I said, I'm

(02:08:21):
going to pick the worst of the thirty. And I
had the Saints sitting there, and through two weeks, I
look like an absolute idiot, And you.

Speaker 3 (02:08:30):
Know, what I'm a wearing though. No, no, man, that's
just it.

Speaker 7 (02:08:32):
It's early and there's a lot of football to be played. Again, caveat,
I grabbed those two teams and I threw those off
out of consideration. But here's an audio clip. You know
you've got them. Monday night game Jacksonville and Buffalo, Ed
Oliver did his media availability. Maybe you've seen this one.
Maybe haven't we used it? Smith and I the other
night on the show here on Fox Sports Radio seven

(02:08:52):
to eleven Pacific. I just thought it was one of
the greatest one minutes and see if you can follow
the balancing ball and count the number of times that
he uses a certain word to describe this series.

Speaker 5 (02:09:04):
Weird. It's just a very very weird game.

Speaker 12 (02:09:07):
And I dressed a team where I dressed my d
line about that, just about how weird these games could be.
I remember the game we played in Jacksonville and it's
sunny day, I mean, a great day, I remember Vivily,
but it was just a weird, a weird aura. And
then playing in London, it was just a weird I
can't even explain. It was just a weird game. And
I ain't never beat these guys. So it's just weird.

Speaker 4 (02:09:28):
Man.

Speaker 12 (02:09:28):
It's just I'm just letting the guys know, like it's
a weird I don't know what it is, man, it's
just a weird and I speak life in to it.
So this game won't be weird, but the past two
times been weird. We then started slow, just very weird games.
You'll go back and watch it. I think the first
time we played it, what it's called like nine to
six something like that something, what was it, nine to six?
Come on, like we're playing an NFL games nine to six,

(02:09:49):
Like I think I remember Johshon Allen catching the pick
on Jackson Allen. I remember that, like like it's just
a weird game, like d Line can catch a pick,
but it's just a weird game.

Speaker 5 (02:09:58):
I remember that vividly. Just you're just weird.

Speaker 1 (02:10:01):
Man.

Speaker 7 (02:10:01):
See there you go. You got a minute of weird.

Speaker 4 (02:10:06):
But you know what, it's funny because that's kind of
been a thing. I did a podcast on Believing Bills.
I was on the Bills podcasts and they were talking
about it. They used the same words, and it was
before I heard Ed Oliver's vivid description of how weird
these games are.

Speaker 5 (02:10:21):
But sometimes, man, a team just.

Speaker 4 (02:10:23):
Has your number and you've seen it, Mike, Like, there's
nothing to explain it. You can't quantify it. It's just
that some teams have your number. There's something about when
that other team runs out the tunnel, they can be struggling,
but when they see those helmets run out, they're like, well,
you know what, we know how to beat them.

Speaker 5 (02:10:42):
We're gonna beat them.

Speaker 4 (02:10:43):
And so that happens, and Ed Oliver, you can call
it weird and all that. I just know that there's
a level of confidence that Jacksonville always has when they
take on the Buffalo Bills. It's because they've won so
many times throughout the franchise's history against the Bills in
unlikely circumstances.

Speaker 7 (02:10:59):
Where you allude to the fact that you know, they've
just passed down ownership of the Bears in Green Bay
going on thirty some hot years, it's like, my time
here is done. I bequeath this to you. You can
now live in this house.

Speaker 4 (02:11:13):
You know it is Yeah, I mean it's funny to
look at, it's funny to talk about.

Speaker 5 (02:11:17):
But yeah, like sometimes it's just it might just be that.

Speaker 4 (02:11:22):
Teams just know how to be other teams and they
just able to kind of get it done.

Speaker 7 (02:11:26):
And it's funny with just the amount of turnover we
have in these teams as well, that some of that
stuff still takes hold. Like that's the curiosity, and that's
where we start getting back into franchises and operational efficiencies
and continuity and all those things as we roll through.
Plenty more to talk about Week three of your National
Football League season in earnest later on today, we got

(02:11:49):
a couple of huge matchups and some that you may
start watching streaks of paint dry on your wall before
you see the next score in the game. But we'll
talk about all of that as we continue. He's Bucky
Brooks at Bucky Brooks on Twitter. Find me over at
Swollen Dome. This is Fox Football Sunday and Fox Sports Radio. Hey,
welcome back in Fox Football Sunday, Fox Sports Radio. Mike

(02:12:11):
Carbon alongside Bucky Brooks having a blast with you. Team
fully assemble. We got Shay and Chris Prophet making it
sound so good as we get things rolling, Dan Byer
you'll hear from him in just a few minutes at
the news desk with all of the injury updates on
the day one of the things he gave us at
the top of the hour, though, Bucky, I wanted to
get back to you real quick. I'm not gonna spend

(02:12:32):
a lot of time on at WNBA. Playoffs begin today,
and we'll watch attendance and ratings and everything going opposite
the NFL, because it's all fun in theater that we
want to see the growth and have all those metrics.
Caitlin Clark in the next iteration. As they've made the playoffs,
I gotta say I was pretty excited to see that
they'd have already said, you know what, here's our MVP.

(02:12:53):
Here's how the voting broke down. Congratulations, Asia Wilson. We're
not waiting six weeks. We're not gonna have some fashion
show three months after a season. Hey remember that season
that ended back on you know, the second week in January.
Let's come back to it and give out awards. I
kind of dig this, the immediacy of it. Season ended,

(02:13:14):
here's the vote, We're done.

Speaker 5 (02:13:18):
I dig it as well. I dig it as well,
and I think.

Speaker 4 (02:13:22):
Look for all the criticism that has gone to wn
ba's way, with a lot of new attention, they've gotten
more criticism.

Speaker 5 (02:13:29):
They do a lot of things, right.

Speaker 4 (02:13:30):
I think this is one of the things they do
really well, like the immediate recognition of the postseason awards,
like get to it, because if you're gonna have it,
I never understood it. If you can have an MVP
of the finals, you should separate the regular season from
the postseason. And the way that you separated is give
out all the regular season awards when the regular season ends,

(02:13:51):
give out the postseason awards when the postseason ends, so
you don't have that carryover.

Speaker 7 (02:13:54):
Well, we end up having some of these inane debates.
They go, well, I mean, look, if you include the
like you don't all right, voting should have ended it
did end as like the Heisman Trophy stuff and whatever
else it's done. Like, it's another thing we do right
before we get into bowl season. Here's your award, let's
move on, here's all your position awards. Let's get after it.
Whatever they do in the bowl games, let's face that

(02:14:16):
a lot of guys winning those awards or competing for
them as finalists aren't playing in their bowl games in
a lot of cases anymore. But that's neither here nor
there anyway. WNBA playoffs part of the larger viewing experience
as we get rolling here later on full slight of
NFL action, of course, Major League Baseball final week of play,
some pennant chases for the White Sox potentially lost one

(02:14:40):
to twenty to tie the nineteen sixty two Mets. That'll
happen down in San Diego a little later on today. Psychologically,
I've come to grips with it. If you're gonna fail,
fail spectacularly, and that leads to the transition to this
back into the NFL. The benching of Bryce Young has
brought out the hot takes and the inflammatory stuff, you know,

(02:15:03):
revisionists in some cases like we always do off you know,
pre draft analysis, et cetera, and whatever that's neither here
or there. You're part of the Panthers organization, which we've
seen with David Tepper, let's face it, the last couple
of years, there's there's just not good feelings, good vibes,
good continuity, cohesion at all. Coaches under fire constantly. I

(02:15:27):
heard an interview with Matt Ruhle earlier this week, and
when asked and pressed for comment a little bit about
the situation there, smiled and just talked about how he'd
received you know, notes of congratulations after a week one
win and all of those things. Now Nebraska goes out
and loses on Friday night against Illinois. But you know,

(02:15:50):
all the feel good of Nebraska after the Colorado win
and everybody jumping on board. He goes, oh yeah, all
sorts of fans, you know, ex Panthers players and coaching
staff or whatever, like he did a really good tap
dance to not answer it. I give the guy credit.
He did follow up and goes, so you want to comment?
He goes, nope, I'm happy with my life now and

(02:16:10):
it made me a better coach, and then closed the
book on it. But for Bryce Young, now benched after
two games, Andy Dalton takes over and overwhelmed. You know,
in theory, personnel was better. You bring in Deontay Johnson.
You've got a safety valve and Adam Thielen. They've been
able to run the ball when they've been able to
run the ball with Shuba Hubbard nearly five yards of carry.

(02:16:31):
But overall, nothing really translated. Sack rate is up it
with sack sixty two times last year, and I don't
know that he ever got past that. Bucky.

Speaker 5 (02:16:41):
It's hard man.

Speaker 4 (02:16:42):
If your young quarterback gets hit, it changes their confidence,
It changes how they go about doing things. It has
a significant impact on who they are and how they
feel about themselves. And Bryce Young never was comfortable in football.
We talked about the three p's being essential to the
importance of the quarterback young quarterbacks, play caller, playmakers, pass protectors.

Speaker 5 (02:17:05):
You gotta have the.

Speaker 4 (02:17:06):
Right play call to make sure that you put him
in his wheelhouse. You gotta have enough playmakers around him
to make the game easy for him, and then he
has to be protected if he's not protected, if he
gets hit. Every quarterback in the league changes once they
start getting hit. And so if you let your young
quarterback get hit, it's going to not only run is confidence,
it's gonna change the way he plays. He's gonna go
from playing with his eyes up looking down the field

(02:17:27):
to make plays, to his eyes down looking at the rush,
trying to survive.

Speaker 7 (02:17:32):
All right, So, with one rookie quarterback off the board,
I do have to ask from the Thursday night game,
was there any reason for Drake may to see the field?
I don't think Jacoby Brissett got hurt. That seemed like yeah,
But I mean against what that defense was doing at
that point.

Speaker 4 (02:17:51):
I mean, I know, but like if you're gona put
him in, my thing is look the entire time it
was such a close race between young player and old player.
Normally the tie gos to the youngster. And if you're
the Patriots, what are we waiting on? I mean, unless
we're waiting on next year for a completely new Patriots
team to run out, what's the point like get him

(02:18:11):
in there.

Speaker 5 (02:18:12):
He hasn't had a lot of experience.

Speaker 4 (02:18:13):
He only played twenty six games in North Carolina. I mean,
there's something to be game from sitting on the sideline,
but it's also something to be said for just doing
You didn't become really good on radio practicing in the bathroom.

Speaker 5 (02:18:27):
You know, get.

Speaker 4 (02:18:30):
Occasionally, you know, standing in from the mirror, like doing
all the other stuff. At some point you got to
get behind the mic and do it. So for Drake
May sometimes you got to drop him in the deepen
the pool and see if.

Speaker 5 (02:18:38):
He can swim.

Speaker 7 (02:18:39):
Certainly dropped into the deep end. The play that will
resonate with me was he did have a nice scramble
shaking off a guy that was trying to grab his
leg and immediately straight into a linebacker who came over
and road warrior style shoulder tackled him. Welcome to the NFL,
Drake May all right that and then I'll give you
this the either or was the first rookie touchdown pass

(02:19:02):
of the year? Is it Caleb against Indianapolis or does
bo Nicks find the end zone against Tampa?

Speaker 4 (02:19:08):
Mm?

Speaker 5 (02:19:10):
Caleb.

Speaker 4 (02:19:10):
Caleb has a bit of chance of doing it than
bo Nicks. Now watch Bownicks throw a bomb on the
first place four tests out ahead.

Speaker 7 (02:19:17):
Well, that certainly wasn't in the arsenal the first two weeks.
If it was, if that shows up on tape, yeah, yeah,
that would that would certainly be a change of the script.
Heading down to Tampa a little bit later another game
at forty and a half something we chronicled quite a
bit on this week's editions of the iWatch Flex podcast.
Dan Byer and I download that wherever you find your podcast,

(02:19:40):
and it's perfect that I segue over to the news
desk where I look over and I see a smiling
Dan Byer, who I owe a donut. So as soon
as I'm off the air, I'm heading down the street.

Speaker 11 (02:19:51):
Got on Dan morning, guys.

Speaker 13 (02:19:53):
It's getting ready for week three, you talked about the
WNBA scenario with Asia Wilson winning the MVP.

Speaker 11 (02:20:00):
Details with that unanimous pick.

Speaker 13 (02:20:02):
Second time ever we've had a unanimous MVP in the WNBA.
For Wilson, it's your third MVP. Caitlin Clark finished fourth
in voting six third place votes. That's the highest she
got on the ballot, but ended up finishing fourth in voting.
Angel Reese got one fourth place vote. She ended up
finishing twelfth in voting for the WNBA. But as you

(02:20:25):
mentioned it, playoffs start today four games, including the Fever
in Connecticut sun at three o'clock Eastern time. Wilson in
the Aces have the nightcap tonight ten o'clock Eastern as
they open up the playoffs as well.

Speaker 11 (02:20:39):
Now let's get to the NFL.

Speaker 5 (02:20:40):
Stuff.

Speaker 13 (02:20:41):
Charger's quarterback Justin Herbert remains a game time decision for
today's contest in Pittsburgh because of his high ankle sprain.
Malak willis expected to start for the Packers against the Titans.
Niners pass rusher Nick Bosa should go today against the Rams.

Speaker 11 (02:20:53):
He's been dealing with a rib injury.

Speaker 13 (02:20:55):
Browns are getting Jedrick Wills back as the left tackle
is expected to make his season today against the Giants.
Coats will have Michael Pittman, Junior on the field well.
Cardinals wide receiver Greg Dort should go. Giants pass rusher
Brian Burns expected to play in that game in Cleveland.
A report from ESPN says the Panthers have received calls
from other teams about acquiring quarterback Bryce Young, who was

(02:21:16):
benched this week in favor of veteran Andy Dalton. The
NFL network says the Panthers plan on bringing back Young
as their starter at some point later on in the season.
Some sad news to pass along, as former Dolphins running
back Mercury Morris passed away at the age of seventy seven,
who was a two time Super Bowl champion and part
of that nineteen seventy two undefeated Dolphins team. Who was
in that seventy two season that Morris led the NFL

(02:21:37):
with touchdowns scored. The only clinching scenario today in baseball
is in Queen's Phillies trying to win the NL East again,
trying to get a victory over the Mets, while in
golf BMWPGA championship Mateo Manaserra leeds at nineteen under power
in final round player Rory McElroy currently in a group
tied for third with Billy Horschel at sixteen under and
three shots back Guys back to.

Speaker 7 (02:21:58):
Hem, appreciate you Dan at Dane Buyron Box where you
find him. You'll hear him later on Red Zone Radio
two to five pm Pacific as well, alongside Carrie Rhodes,
the news on Mercury Morris, Bucky, a legend in the
game and a guy that every year, I mean, it's
one of the great traditions in sports. As the last
undefeated team falls, he would be the most boisterous and

(02:22:21):
outspoken in support of his Dolphin squad of all those
years ago. And that ends. I'm sad, like a change
sucks oftentimes, and in this case in the worst of ways,
as we have a passing of a guy that goes
down as one of our legends in NFL history.

Speaker 4 (02:22:41):
Yeah, I really said, And it's funny. I didn't think
it would hit me this way because I'm completely surprised.
I didn't know he was sick, and so condoles is
to the family. My memories of Mercury Morris will be
the pleasure and the joy that he always expressed at
seeing the final unbeaten team fall to the wayside so

(02:23:01):
that the Dolphins continue.

Speaker 5 (02:23:03):
To be the only team off the charts.

Speaker 4 (02:23:07):
That and that, and I also loved looking back at
those America's games NFL Network used to put those on,
and then just the behind the scenes conversation about him
trying to fit in with Larry Zanka and Jim Kick.
I just can't even imagine what that running back room
was like. He seems like the odd ball to but

(02:23:30):
for him to be the player that he was to
continue to kind of keep the flame alive on that
seventy two squad.

Speaker 5 (02:23:38):
We're going miss that.

Speaker 4 (02:23:39):
I'm miss the conversation, the jokes and the sarcasm and
snarkiness that he used to bring to that.

Speaker 7 (02:23:45):
Well, that just said every year, like clockwork, you'd wait
for that last team to fall, and it was only
a matter of minutes before the first, you know, opening
salvo of the next round of things from Mercury. Morris
So passes at seventy seven. Best to family, friends and
the fans as they have their warm remembrances of him
today and going forward. He's Bucky Brooks out by Carbon

(02:24:07):
here Fox Football Sunday Fox Sports Radio. As we continue,
should we do a segment on the outrage of Caitlin
Clark finishing fourth a MVP voting.

Speaker 4 (02:24:16):
At why there's outrage. I don't know what to be
outrage about her finishing forth. She did a really good job.
She locked up the Rookie of the Year, but I
don't think she was the MVP of the league. I mean,
she was really good, but I wouldn't call it MVP.

Speaker 7 (02:24:29):
No, it's just fun fodder, you know, because you got
to have some performative outrage of some of these things.
It's kind of like we talked about with the the
Bryce Young scenario and a lot of this thrust into
the air and evaluations. As Dan he just gave us
in the update, wanted to tie a bow on it,
the idea that, hey, we're not going to trade him,

(02:24:49):
but the word gets out that offers are being received,
which is curious. I mean, we've certainly got plenty of
teams in the NFL where you look at quarterbacks that
are maybe a little longer in the tooth. When we
look at say the Rams and Matthew Stafford a bunch
of injured people around him, you've got to a tongue
bai looa in the situation in Miami, Skyler Thompson gets

(02:25:11):
the start later on today and they keep working in
the backups. He to a finally place down the ir
so it's at least a month before he returns. So
you've got some of these situations. So the fact that
that word leaks out becomes a all right, if the
price is right, you know, we can be had. So
what do you what do you expect? Does he see
the field again because it seemed like he was a

(02:25:33):
tepper guy, or is this just another example perhaps of
the mercurial tepper at work of Hey, I saw it,
I'm done with it, I cut and I move on.

Speaker 5 (02:25:46):
You know, it's funny.

Speaker 4 (02:25:49):
It's hard for me to envision Bryce shown playing quarterbackem
just the way that they talked about him after they
benched him.

Speaker 5 (02:25:56):
They never talked about You never.

Speaker 4 (02:25:58):
Heard Dave Canala say hey, we just want to give
him some time to see the game from the sideline reset,
then have an opportunity to go back in. It was
always almost like definitive final, Andy, don't gives us the
best opportunity to win. We'll see, maybe he gets a
chance to come back and injury. But there was never
anything that even when you do this with a young player,

(02:26:19):
you still try to preserve their mental right, You try
to preserve their confidence and their self esteem. At no
point did I hear anybody from the Panthers come out
and say, oh, he's still like God, we still believe
in him. So to me, I think he's gone. And
I think what they're scared of, which is why they
won't do to move now, They're scared that he'll go
somewhere else and blossom and it be further I would say,

(02:26:43):
damage or further illumination of the dysfunction that exists within
their franchise. And so if you don't like them, let
them go. But if he goes somewhere else, it's only
going to look bad on you for not being able
to take care of him. If someone else is able
to make him a reclamation project, well, I.

Speaker 7 (02:26:59):
Mean, I thought it was fun when the tweets that
included pictures of Sam Donald and Baker Mayfield in Carolina
Panthers jerseys walking on to a field together made started
making the rounds. So and Baker certainly with some positive
words for Bryce Young earlier this week, as well, one
of the more interesting games on the slate. The aforementioned

(02:27:19):
Sam Donald rode slight underdogs with Houston coming in Houston.
We saw great possessions early against the Bears last Sunday night,
but then it kind of normalized and c J Stroud
under duress Brian Flores and that defense flying around. Sam
Donald doesn't have to be a world beater, and he
did finish that game with his receivers hurt, but they're

(02:27:41):
all expected back still another couple of weeks before TJ Hawkinson,
but good balance with Aaron Jones and the defense flying around.
I think Minnesota wins this game at home. Am I insane?

Speaker 5 (02:27:53):
Nana saying, okay, good man, they're really good on defense.
I mean they're really good. Brian Floyd's he's done a
really good job.

Speaker 4 (02:28:00):
And Sam Donald and KOC Kevin O'Connell. There's a connection
and a synergy there. And there was this little cat
that ate the Canary grin or Field to Kevin O'Connell.
When he got Sam Donald from the forty nine ers,
you know, there was this sense that all right, man,
I'm telling you I'm gonna make this guy player.

Speaker 5 (02:28:18):
I know we took JJ McCarthy.

Speaker 4 (02:28:20):
But I still feel and we're seeing that play out
even though he had the turnovers whatever, This is the
best that we've seen.

Speaker 5 (02:28:24):
Sam Donald play.

Speaker 4 (02:28:25):
It says a lot about the impact of a play
call and playmakers on a quarterback.

Speaker 7 (02:28:30):
Well, some of the stopovers though. We talked about, you know,
Baker Mayfield had his quick run with the Rams and
Sam being up there with the forty nine ers and
an organization, you know, stability and system, et cetera. You
know that can't hurt and at least for Donald getting
further away from the Jets, there is starting to become

(02:28:51):
a trend. It takes a few years to get that
out of your system.

Speaker 5 (02:28:56):
It does. It takes a while. It takes a while
to like learn how to play football. That's why the
league is so.

Speaker 4 (02:29:02):
Hard, and we talked about that, and that's why everyone
needs to have a level of grace.

Speaker 5 (02:29:06):
But no one does, and part of it is our fault.

Speaker 4 (02:29:09):
We have to have stuff to talk about, so we
make these snapshot assessments on these young quarterbacks and it
just creates this conversation that never stops. It's annoying, but
it's one of the things that kind of goes along
with the territory.

Speaker 7 (02:29:24):
All right, let me continue being annoying as we talk.
Malik Willis will be under center heading on the road.
Will Levice back to back weeks with some plays that
would be part of any Chris Berman highlight, with a
bunch of whoops and random sound effects mixed therein, and
his coach seems like he's getting near the end of it.

(02:29:44):
But you look at Green Bay. It had that loss
week one overseas right off in Brazil, and you lose
Jordan Love. They played cat and mouse all week, no
expectation that he was going to play. But you come
back get a hard fault win against the no buckner,
so you run the ball effectively. Malik Willis not asked
and tasked to do a bunch. Tennessee's defense to this point,

(02:30:07):
it's played pretty well in stretches here. Bucky thirty seven
and a half is the over under in this one,
with Tennessee a three point favorite. Malik Willis, what can
you get out of him to just solve that defense?
Or do you just keep relying on the run game
and hope that the defense continues to create turnovers.

Speaker 4 (02:30:25):
That has to be a big part of it. You
got to run the ball. You got to protect him. Now,
the sidency Titans know him better than anybody else. You know,
they've seen him. They nobody's like on the practice field.
Those players would take that intel and use that to
work against him. The best thing that mattla Flour can
do is run it and set Malik Willis up to
throw in favorable situations. If they're able to do that,

(02:30:46):
then you're going to have an opportunity to have some success.
But without being able to run the ball effectively, it's
gonna be hard for him. You don't want him to
have to throw at thirty five or forty times. That's
a recipe for disaster. This has to be one where
Josh Jacobs really cares.

Speaker 7 (02:31:00):
That's too bad, because I was hoping to go counterintuitive.
We don't think he can pass the ball downfield, so
you just come out winging it around. Just start winging
it around, old school NFL style, back when turnovers didn't matter.
We just look for the big play.

Speaker 5 (02:31:16):
I mean, that's a way to do it. I don't
know if he's the right one.

Speaker 7 (02:31:19):
Well, I don't think you're winning. I don't think that's
winning football. I was looking for something that would be
entertaining to me. He's Bucky Brooks. Ed Bucky Brooks. Find
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(02:32:06):
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(02:32:26):
Some crazy fantastic finishes. We'll get to momentarily at Bucky
Brooks where you find him on Twitter, find me over
at Swollen Dome. Full slate today Sunday Night Football. We've
got Kansas City Atlanta and then a doubleheader Bucky. Part
of the call tomorrow is Jacksonville takes on Buffalo in
the alternate game, the slightly staggered game. We've got the

(02:32:48):
Commanders and the Bengals. Bengals still looking for that first
win of the year, just like your Jaguars. We talked
about it a little bit with Andy an hour ago.
Bucky margin to victory in the NFL we know is
points or fewer virtually in all games, and we've watched
in the key number in terms of betting, you know,
six being a magic number was always three on the

(02:33:11):
morning television show. So occasionally we have singlelongs at soccer
games for that. But forty five and a half is
the total for the Jaguars. Two losses by a total
of eight points. We talked about it last week and
a little bit earlier, the ETN fumble that looms so large,
But is there an anxiousness starting to set in there
with the squad and the direction for Peterson and what

(02:33:34):
the offense.

Speaker 5 (02:33:35):
Is real talk.

Speaker 4 (02:33:37):
Yeah, I mean there's always that anxiousness when you have
a losing streak and early in the year and you
begin to have more voices wayh in and are people
on the hot seat and those things. Despite having back
to back winning seasons in the franchise hadn't had winning
seasons and forever like it, only have one in a decade,
and then you have back to back and yet the

(02:33:57):
expectations grow and Doug is a bit of a victim
of those raised expectations. Overall, though, the team has a
sense of urgency because the team hasn't played well. I mean,
the backups and the young players have played well, but
the stars have not come out and played at the
level that they were expected to perform at. The Jaguars

(02:34:18):
won't turn it around until they're able to get their
best players playing their best at all times. When they
do that, then you'll see some of the promise that
a lot of people in Jacksonville were excited about.

Speaker 7 (02:34:28):
Now one of the curious games on the slate. We
talk about it from the Justin or Herbert injuries side
of things. High ankle sprain, that's what he gave us,
you know before it's just an ankle. We actually got
some specificity out of a player's mouth. I'm sure he
might have gotten a talking to and maybe maybe Jim
Harbaugh wasn't, you know, wearing the shoes and rocking the
same look after that might have been a little disappointed.

(02:34:51):
They've given that specificity out. But potential for Easton stick
this one. We've seen the downward pressure in the over
under and the point total and everything else, but Pittsburgh
and narrow favorite justin Fields and that offense. It hasn't
looked pretty, but that's only if you're watching fully just
highlight reels, because there have been a number of near

(02:35:11):
misses and penalties. Look, they all count just the same,
but you can see where there's at least a timing
developing with he and George Pickens. Is this the day
it can break through against the Chargers.

Speaker 4 (02:35:21):
D The Charges defense is really good, but at some
point that it has to break through. They need those
guys to be able to give them something through the air,
and they're gonna need Justin Fields to be more than
just the manager, right, the guy, the caretaker, the guy
that just makes sure all the lights are on and
he has the keys to the register and the operation
flows like that. They're gonna need to be able to

(02:35:43):
make plays, and when they make plays, it's gonna give
them a chance. They've kind of open it up and
really utilized the weapons that they have on the perimeter.
Tough right now to think that they're gonna be able
to do it against this Charges team, But this might
be the day that Justin Fields goes.

Speaker 7 (02:35:57):
Bananas Boswell versus Dicker. Can we just do a kickoff
m That would be fun, right, Let's just settle it
on the field with a couple of field goal kickers.
The challenge. I mean, look, once we start getting into totals,
and it's something we've kind of alluded to over the
course of the show, we've got one, two, three, four, five,

(02:36:20):
five games at forty and a half or lower in
terms of point expectations from the betting syndicates and what
the odds have been put up. So yeah, not exactly
coming out here as you know, the pop gun kind
of thing as we go, and we've talked about passing
being down a bunch and that level of quarterbacks. I

(02:36:40):
was talking to someone the other day and they dropped
the you know, I'd still have Jalen Hurts among the elite.
I'm like, well, how far are we going elite? Like
what does that mean? Right? And we had a little
bit Dan and I on the the iWatch of Flex
podcast kind of talking to the state of quarterbacking as
a whole. But you know, how many guys, how deep
does it go in terms of I go into Sunday going,
I know, I got my guy. I don't think there's

(02:37:02):
a lot of teams in fan bases that are doing
that right now. You might have a lot of them.
I think I got my guy.

Speaker 4 (02:37:08):
But yeah, because there's levels to it, right, So when
we talk about elite, we think about in life. Elite
would be what, let's just say, elite is what the
top ten percent we considered. Okay, so that means that
elite International Football League would be.

Speaker 7 (02:37:21):
Three three and a half, three and a half fine
a half.

Speaker 5 (02:37:24):
So let's just say, so there are four elite quarterbacks
in the league.

Speaker 4 (02:37:28):
Pat Mahomes would be one, and you got to fill
in two, three and four.

Speaker 5 (02:37:32):
The majority of the NFL is not going to have.

Speaker 4 (02:37:34):
An elite quarterback and it is one of the things
that everyone has to understand, because when we talk about
the money and how are they making so much money?

Speaker 5 (02:37:41):
Yeah, if we put it in different.

Speaker 4 (02:37:42):
Tiers, Okay, elite guys, y'all get over fifty million. Everybody
else y'all get between thirty and forty million, depending on.

Speaker 5 (02:37:49):
If you're average to good. I mean, that's how you
have to look at it.

Speaker 4 (02:37:53):
But what happens is when you pay some guys fifty
million dollars the expectation, I want elite performance from someone
who never displayed well.

Speaker 7 (02:38:01):
And that's it, right, The expectations flow with it, And
how is this guy getting paid? It's like we can't
do the deep dive economic structure of the league and
explain it. And no, there's not a separate, separate salary
cap for quarterbacks at all plays the same, no question
about it. We talked about the Colts and the Bears
a little bit earlier. Wanted to get into one of

(02:38:22):
the games. We didn't really discuss too much this hour Detroit, Arizona,
Real quick. What you've seen from Kyler Murray through two
weeks reminds me of the guy we saw years ago
before all the video game shenanigans and chaos descended upon him.

Speaker 4 (02:38:38):
Yeah, I mean, I think we very I think it
is that we are seeing that part of it. We
are seeing the same guy that was able to kind
of get it done for years and years in offensive
rookie of the year. We're seeing him fully back to health.
That's the other thing too. People don't he was coming
off in acl last year. So it used to we
used to give guys basically would take like a to

(02:38:59):
second year year from the thing is when we see
it and then we're in the second year removed from that,
we're seeing it pop. That's why the Arizona cortin ER's
have a dynamic offense that's only going to get better.

Speaker 7 (02:39:09):
There you go looking at the mix of the run
of the pass when you got the sledgehammer, and they
haven't really deployed Trey Benson just yet. So you've still
got another guy in the holster there behind James Connor.
So chaos ensues. Well, good luck, have a good call
tomorrow night. It's always fun here out of Fox Football
Sunday at Bucky Brooks where you find him find me
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