Andy Furman, Bucky Brooks, and Mike Harmon talk College Football Week 4, NFL Week 4 Preview, and So Much More!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
All right, strapping it and we're gonna tell you what
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(00:26):
Do I tire buying should be Bucky Brooks? How are
you dry? Did you get the hurricane? What's going on? You? Okay? Buck?

Speaker 3 (00:33):
I'm okay, Andy. I'm currently in Houston. I was on
the West coast, but I have some family members that
were impacted by some of the stuff that took place
with the hurricane.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
But it's all good, good.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
I'm happy. I was worried about yowhere, about all my
friends here, my family friends at Fox Sports Radio. You know,
we lost power here where I live only for about
two hours, but about eighty thousand people in the Tri
state area. I'm talking about Indiana, Kentucky, and Ohio lost
power for a long long time, and the water was bad.
I mean still rainy, has been rainny here since Thursday.

(01:05):
But the winds were ridiculous. I mean they knocked over
trees and whatever it may be. But everybody I know
right now, thank goodness, is safe. So that's great. So
we move on right now. And I was worried about
the Bengals game today locally. Was it playing in North
Carolina playing Charlotte. But I guess everything's a goal because
I know North Carolina got hit pretty good.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Did you hit pretty good?

Speaker 3 (01:25):
I mean you got ravaged like some of the nice
areas if you ever go to North Carolina, ash Feld
is known for the builtmore and all the stuff that
goes along around there is scenic, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Picturesque, all of that. That area has been hit really
really hard.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Flooding, lots of water, lots of damage. So praying for
the people out there. But yeah, I was surprised to
see Carolina still up and going.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
The Panthers are on schedule to play.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Right I tell you what. I hate to bring this
up list, get it out of the way right early.
What's going on with the tar heels? They were up
over Duke Dukes now five. I know they lose twenty
one to twenty. I'm going nuts. I said the package
this week to Matt Brown, the football who you love dearly.
I sent them some recruits. I gave about twenty five
thirty names. I said, Matt, please, And people are telling me,
don't waste your time sending the package to Mac because

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he won't be there next year. Tell me please. I
love the man. I don't want it to go.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
No, I don't want him to go either.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Like after last week's game, I texted him, we had
a little exchange. I think what you have is like
at the end of every great coach's run, like the
losses are harder for them. And last week's lost to
James Madison was really hard for coach Brown, and he
talked about in the locker room. Hey guys, if it's me,

(02:37):
I'll step away. Then you come back and you play
the rivalry game and the ribbery game against Duke. For anyone,
everyone knows that Caroline Duke is a big robbery. They
always talk about it basketball, but from a football standpoint,
it's even more kind of bitter and contentious. Going all
the way back to nineteen eighty nine my freshman year
when Steve Spurry was there my freshman year, Steve Spurr year,

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and the Duke Blue Devils one to acc. They beat
us forty one to zero, and at the end of
the game, instead of shaking hands, they ran past us
and took a picture under our score board with forty
one zero and they circulated that picture. That was their picture.
And so from that point on, Mac Brown and the
football team vowed a would never lose the Duke or whatever.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
And for the longest time, I think.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
The loss to Duke yesterday was the first time that
he's lost to Duke since nineteen eighty nine. And so, look,
it's tough on coach Brown. Now, it's tough on the
football program. And they're really really close to being a
good program. They just can't get over the hump. Hopefully
at some point this season they'll turn the corner and
have a lot of success, but they just haven't had
it right now.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
Well that's hope.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
So okay, now, I mentioned like what college football is
all about. You know what it's all about, and this
is my take on it, because I don't want to
be a hypocrite and say, you know, it's great. Things
are good.

Speaker 4 (03:53):
No, it's not.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
The key to college football right now is a term
called collectives. Now, for those people who don't know what
it is, is, a collective is the organized group of
donors who raise cash to fund endorsement deals to kids.
All right, I knew this whole thing was not going
to work out. I'm not saying athletes shouldn't get paid.
Sure they should. They're the face of the university of

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college they really are. But I'm very happy to see
this UNLV. They made a big statement yesterday in their
first game without their former starting quarterback Matthew Sluca. The
Rebels are going to be pretty good, though. They really are.
They beat up on Fresno State fifty nine to fourteen.
They're now four and zero. But here's the deal. After
starting three games for UNLV, this kid Sluca opted now

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to red shirt. He's expected to enter the transfer portal
next month, and his father and his agent have alleged
he was verbally promised one hundred grand by UNLV and
by their offensive coordinator Brendan murray On during his recruitment,
but he only got three thousand dollars from the schools,
and that only from the schools collective. Okay, UNLV said,
and this is in es statement that sluca's reps made

(04:58):
financial demands to keep playing that it would interpret it as
a violation of NCAA pay for play rules as well
as state laws in the state of Nevada. This is ridiculous.
First of all, there was nothing signed. It was verbal. Okay,
Now these assistant coaches are speaking. I gotta believe for
the collectives. I mean, I don't like this whole situation.
I think it stinks that got to clean it up.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
Bucket.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
It's not good. It really isn't good what happened over
there at UNLV.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
No, it's not good.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
And the worry that you have when you talk about
the collectives and the money and nil and coaches speaking
out of turn. You don't have any regulations, and people
think that rules are bad, but rules are good because
it allows everyone to know exactly where you're supposed to stand.
You know exactly how you're supposed to operate. And what

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you have is you have coaches making promises that the
collectives and others can't keep.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
And for young people.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
Who are basing their decisions now on money and nil
deals as opposed to where they want to go to
college for an education, a degree and those things. Yeah,
they're very influenced and swayed by that. And the kid
in UNLV, there have been some other kids who've talked

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about the.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Promises not being met. He decided to pull away.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
And I'll say this still because some of this is
a little old school.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
I didn't like him quitting on the team.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
With you, I'm understand that I didn't like him quitting
on the team and the way in which he did it.
It would be hard for me as the next school
that is going to offer him an opportunity maybe to
trust him. And so much of what good teams are, football, basketball,
whatever the team is is about trust between players and players,

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players and coaches, coaches and coaches. To me, he violated that.
But I also see that he feels like the school
violated his term. So it's just bad. I just wish
it was regular. So everyone is on the up and up.
But right now, as the Wild Wild West in the
NC double A kind of has his hands tied behind
his back because all of the court cases kind of

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wipe the power away from them. So it's hard for
anyone to regulate anything when it comes to this stuff.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
Right, ANTI Doublea's powerless.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
And I got to believe in a couple of years
down the roads, it's not even going to be an
NT double A. And this what makes this so bad.
You're right, took several things. Number one, the kid quit
on his teammates, which is not a good thing. And
he's supposed to be a leader at the quarterback position.
You know, people have their second doubts there on that. However,
here's the problem. The rich we'll always get richer. There
are schools out there that compete, but now they can

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never compete because they don't have the collectives that schools
like maybe Ohio State has or Oklahoma may have, or
whatever it may be. Notre Dame they just don't have
those collectives. Forget about admission. I remember years ago they
were saying, why is it Notre Dame more competitive? And
they would saying, well, you know, because our grades. It's
hard to get into Notre Dame. Now it's not even
a question of grades, it's a question of collectives. They're

(08:00):
more important than anything else. They really are.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
Yeah, I mean, I'll say it's kind of sad, or yeah,
I mean, sad.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
Is the best way for me to describe it. That
has become like this, that has become a.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
Thing where everyone is worried about, like the nil and
how much money am I getting, as opposed to the
opportunities that the school can provide not only academically but
networking resources for thirty forty years down the line, in
terms of the people that you meet, the alums that

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you can meet, how they can help you, how they
can impact what you want to do in the second
phase of life post playing. I'm worried about that part
of it. But yeah, right now it's about cash in hand.
How much cash can I get to come play?

Speaker 1 (08:49):
I don't dig it. I don't like it.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
Even though I am adamant that players should have always
been cut in to the deal.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
They should have always gotten a piece of the pie.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
I just don't like the way it's presented because right
now it's unregulated, which isn't good.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
I'm with you here, I'm with you a million percent.
But here's the question. You're a proud grad of the
tar Heels North Carolina, right if they came to you
and say, hey, Bucky, we got this potential quarterback, a
five star quarterback in high school, but he needs one
hundred grand? Could you pitch in fifty grand? Would you?
Could you? And I'm scratching my head because I was

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thinking about that. Why on God's green earth would anybody
want to write a check for a potential kid coming
to school? I mean, what's the benefit. I don't understand it.
I really don't understand why these people are putting up
money to have a high school kid who really have
no You probably never saw him play going to your
school to play football.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
I don't get it.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
I don't understand it.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
I don't either, thank you, thank you? I mean, you
would not write a check. You wouldn't do credit check.
It's hard for me.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
It's hard for me to even think about that, but
I would do. And I think it's even harder for
some of the old school people, particularly like when I
think about it, a lot of my influence comes from
when I was a kid. The basketball team was always
the thing. The basketball team has secured some big time recruits,
but it's hard for me to think that Dean Smith

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would be like, oh, yeah, we're gonna pay you whatever
to come.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Play for us.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
And I know it's a different time, but it would
be hard for me to write a check for a kid,
an eighteen year old, and say, a man, we need him.
I want to secure his services in those things. But
a lot of the people that are in charge of
the collectives, that are in charge with the money, the
fundraising in those things, they're business people who want to
be a part. They just want to be a part

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of the good stuff that the team is doing.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
They want to have a voice. They want to be.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
Able to tell their buddies like, yeah, I helped get X,
Y and Z. And so they can't help it. They
fawn over these kids and they're willing to pay whatever
to bring them in.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
But for me, I'll pass. I'm good on that.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
I'm passing too.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
But you know what, things have changed a little bit more.
It's more upfront now. Back in the day, they had
the so called bag men. The assistant coaches would come
out and you know, pay they get a kid's mom
the house or or hire the dad as an assistant coach.
We've seen that, you know, it's happened, but it was
kind of under the table. We didn't know about it.
Now it's way up in the open. So you know,

(11:21):
I don't like it. I'm glad you don't like it
with today, we're in the same page. But you know
what I do like. I like that Kentucky's for real
Kentucky football. You know, they played Georgia two weeks ago,
they lose thirteen twelve. Then they lose to South Carolina
thirty one six. Yesterday, they're down, they're down what seventeen
thirteen in that game against Old Miss, and they had

(11:41):
fourth and seven on their own twenty and they go
for it and they got like a sixty three yard
completion and they beat Old Miss twenty seventeen, knocking Old
Miss out of the undefeated ranks the number sixteen of
the country, Old Miss. Kentucky's for real. Maybe they're paying
Their play is pretty good. I don't know, but Kentucky's
for real right now, and I love it now.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
They are for real. They're a really good team, and
they've been able to do it in a way that
has been surprising because Mark Stoops has built a really
good program. Competitive, they're scrappy, they've been able to produce pros.
They get after it, and for them to go on
the road and get a big win like that, it's
going to look do wonders for that program.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
For Mississippi.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
You know, they'll find out how tough it can be
at the top when you go from being the hunted,
from being the hunter to the hunted.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
It was a big game for Kentucky.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
Particularly because Kentucky felt like they let Georgia off the hook.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
A few weeks ago. They came back and got a top.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
Ten team in Old miss the SEC as well, very competitively.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
It's a wilde to watch.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
It's unbelieva. We talked about that Alabama Georgia game. The
hype is ridiculous. Going to the game. All of a sudden,
now Georgia is down by twenty eight points. I flicked
the TV off. I wanted to another game. I'm watching
University of Cincinnati playing Texas Tech, which was a decent
game in Tech and Texas Tech beat him by three.
I think it was at the end of the game,
but they're down twenty eight. Next thing I know, I
turned back and they're back in the game and George

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is leading thirty four to thirty three with about two
and a half minutes to go, and the Alabama comes back.
It is an amazing ending. Forty one thirty four for
the ending right there? Man, how do you let them
come back. I don't say you put the foot on
their throat and you step on their throat, you're up
by twenty eight. It should be all over, should be
lights out. But you know what, I watched a halftime

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deal and Nick Saban said, this Georgia team's gonna come back.
He's and I think maybe he's saying that because he
doesn't want to lose the TV audience. I don't know,
but he was right. He was right, he really was,
and they came back.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yeah, no one.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
Look, man, anytime you have a program that has multiple
national titles in recent history, there's a heart of a
champion that lies in that locker room. They're not gonna
bow out easily. And I would say this Georgia is
going to walk out of that game more determined, even
better than they would have if they had won straight up,

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because they took Alabama's best punch. They played probably the
worst half of football that Georgia has played under Kirby
smart and yet at the end of the game.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
But two minutes left, they had taken the league and
come all the way back.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
Kirby now can stand in front of his team and
tell them, guys, no matter what we always are in
the game that will do wonders for their confidence. And
with another game against Alabama on horizon, whether it's in
the SEC or the playoffs, the next time they meet,
the confidence is gonna be in Georgia's corner, not necessarily

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an Alabama's corner.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
All Right, I hear you. You know I'm one of
those people to tell you, and you know this right
up front, that I make a lot of mistakes. You
know I'm not that smart. You know that. I mean,
you've worked me for a while. You can tell them.
You probably work with a moron. You probably tell people that.
And that's okay. Because I said this back in August,
I thought the Heisman Trumphy winner would be my guy
at Alcaholma State, Oli Gordon. I don't know what happened

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to him. I put the kiss of death on this guy.
Not only did he have a terrible game yesterday fifteen
carries for seventy six yards at Oklahoma State, but Oklahoma
State loses to Kansas State forty two twenty What happened
to Dolly Gordon? Did I put the kabash on this kid?
I mean last year he was lights out. He hasn't
done a theme this year, and I think going into
the year he was considered perhaps a Heisman Trophy candidate.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
Yeah, you put the Wammie on him. You ruined it.
I did. He ruined it for many like you absolutely
messed it up.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
I don't know, man, It's such a weird thing to watch,
like watching Oklahoma. I mean, they had to hold on
for dear life because they were getting their doors pulled off,
and they made a competitive and eventually Case State stepped
away again.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
But yeah, he just doesn't just doesn't look the same.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
Like something was a little off, Like he just hasn't
men the same kind of player that we thought he
would be as a thing he looked. He's still a
terrific prospect in those things, but we thought that he
would have a greater impact at it collegiate level than
he's shown thus far.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
No doubt.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
I tell you who's come out of know where the
Khalel Mullings kid from Michigan. Michigan wins yesterday, but more
than that, and they kind of a sloppy game really
but tough twenty seven to twenty four of the Minnesota.
But this kid, Mullings had one hundred eleven yards on
the ground. The team had two hundred and forty one.
He had one hundred and eleven of those yards, and
he had two touchdowns. So two weeks in a row.

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This kid's coming alive. I'm at Michigan. All of a sudden,
they rode them for dead.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
They're back.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
I mean, they got their running game and they're tough
on defense. They're a tough football team. This Michigan team.
Don't count them out. They're four and one, two and
zero in the Big Ten.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
Look, man, it was ugly because they had to hold
on the clock necessarily ran out on Minnesota's come back
more so than Michigan's stopping them. They were up a ton.
I think it's twenty four to three, twenty seven three.
They let Minnesota come all the way back, maybe twenty
four three. Bad them come all the way back. Minnesota

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was hot and rolling. They were able to go up
tempo the last quarter and really walk the Maes down.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
The Wolverines were able to.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
Benefit from a controversial onset kick at the end where
the officials ruled that a guy was off side you
look back at the replay is questionable, but they held
on the thing that they've done is they've leaned into
who they have to be, and that's going to be
a ground and pound team. With Orgy their new quarterback.
They can't throw the ball. The passing game is limited,

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so they've just been able to kind of cram it
down people's throw, play good defense for lone turnovers, and
special teams to set them up for short feels and
they've been able to cash it in. How far can
they go with that remains to be determined, but from Michigan,
that's the way they have to play with the team
they have right now.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
I keep one eye a little bit on the university
was conscient. I thought I'm a big fan, but Luke
Fickle coaches was conscient, and I knew Luke when he
coached University of Cincinnati. So I'm watching the game and
having their way Wisconscious, having their way with USC yesterday,
and all of a sudden, the USC scores twenty eight
points and it holds you wisconstant to nothing, twenty eight
nothing in the last thirty minutes of the game and

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they lose thirty eight twenty one. I just don't understand
how teams falter fade just collapse in second halves of football.
I don't get it. It almost happened yesterday in that
Georgia Alabama game. You know, you got the lead. I mean,
you're just so cocky, you confidence. I mean, I don't understand.
I mean, what happens at halftime? Why can't they hold
the lead?

Speaker 3 (18:26):
Natural human reaction is when you have success, to become
a little complacent. So when you start a game and
you already have this edge on you, right because you
expect a hostile game, you expect a tight game.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
You expect it to be.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
Kind of a testy affair, and then when you run
out to the lead of twenty plus points, sometimes it's
hard to keep that same focus, that same intensity, the
same a.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
We want to knock them all the way out human reaction.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
And remember you're dealing with eighteen to twenty two year olds,
you know, and their emotions can all over the place,
and it's hard to keep them on tasks for that long.
The other part that you have, particularly early in the year,
conditioning is a factor. You're still in the first four
games of the season, your team is still working its
way into great shape.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
So the fourth quarter, you've.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
Been on the field logging a bunch of snaps, and
depending on the tempo of the game, you may be
like at one hundred plays a peace by that point
in a college game, because the tempo is drolling, people
are going fast. There's a natural breaking point, a natural
point where your body breaks down, and sometimes fatigue can
can impact it. Just like we saw twenty eighty three

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the Patriots in the Atlanta Falcons and everyone is like,
this is in the bag within the Patriots have to
go to a passing game plan. What happened to the
Falcons pass rush? They got tired. That's a lot of
pass rush attempts in succession. Same thing at the collegiate
low When you let the opponent's offense stay on the field,
it has a wearing down effect that eventually can't catch

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up to you if you're not able to stay in
the track meet.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
There you go, Okay, Now, I know, okay, but I
will tell you that it wouldn't be Saturday if it
wasn't Deon Sinders in Colorado. Gotta watch Colordad. I watched
Colorado every SCE I have to. They played U see
at this team. You see if I had the number
one run offense in the country and they held them.
Colorado held them to under two hundred yards. They win
forty eight twenty one. They're four to one. They're for real.
And I'll tell you right now, I'm almost afraid to
say this. I'm afraid I don't want to put the

(20:25):
kiss of death on this kid. But Travis Hunter should
get the Heisman Trophy. Nine catches yesterday, eighty nine yards,
a touchdown, plus an interception in the third quarter. It's unbelievable.
This guy's playing both ways. He takes like one hundred
and forty snaps a game. This guy should be Look,
it depends on upon of obviously, how many games they win.
If they go to a bowl game, he'll be the

(20:45):
Heisman Trophy winner. They're four and one right now. All
they're gonna do is win two more games. They're going
to a bowl game. He will be God willing doesn't
get hurt. Travis, You're going to be the Heisman Trophy winner.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
I mean, he is terrific. He is one the best
players that I've ever seen in terms of just the
way that he plays the game is so easy for
him and so natural. Yeah, if you ask me who
should get the Heisman, right now he's been the best
player in college football, and the stuff that he has
done on both sides of the ball, There's never been

(21:16):
anyone to do that like this. I think Champ Bailey's
the closest one. People always referenced Charles Wilson, and he
did play a little both ways. Champ Bailey, I want
to say his final season at Georgia, he was a
legitimate two way player.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
At Georgia.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
He called the ball, did a bunch of things on defense.
But this dude, Travis Hunter doesn't come off the field.
And as Deanna coach Prime has said, why would I
leave a good football player on the sideline When he
can impact the game every time he's on the field.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
I'm gonna put him on the field.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
And Travis Hunter is one of the more impactful college
football players that I've seen. He is worthy of all
the hype and attention that he's getting. And it's going
to be real interesting when he gets to the next
level and he declares what positions or positions people are
going to want to man and how they're underploy.

Speaker 4 (22:04):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
I'm gonna leave you with this. You know, with the
expansion of the college football players not the twelve teams.
I'm gonna say this all right, and you can smack
me around with if you don't agree. The games that
are being played on Saturday, the games and in all
the games, really they don't have as much meaning and
they don't have as much drama because you could lose
two games and still go be in the top twelve.
They don't have that you better win now like win

(22:27):
or go home deal. The drama is not there, The
meeting is not there. Yeah, you watch the game. They're
exciting games and there's competition there, but they really, when
it's all said and done, doesn't mean that much. Yeah,
Georgia lost yesterday, so what they're gonna be a top
twelve team. They're gonna go to the playoffs. So the
expansion is good for teams, certainly good for coaches, but
as far as fans are concerned, the drama I don't

(22:49):
think is there as it used to be when that
four team's going.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
I think the drama is still there.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
I think what you see, I think you'll see more
games because now the stakes different. You'll see more games
because you can actually afford to lose a game and
still make it to the playoffs. That should encourage more
teams to play better teams, because that's gonna lead to
more successes down the line. So to me, I'm excited

(23:15):
about it. I think it's gonna be a good thing,
not a bad thing.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
All right, Diego, I think you're a real good thing.
I really do. Get Bucket Brooks on Twitter at Bucket
Brooks at Andy Furman FSR eight o'clock easton Tom we
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Speaker 4 (23:31):
We got to ask.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
Bucky in this hour bottom Barrel betting Iowa two and
as mentioned this Swollen Dome comes in here at our three.
But believe it or not, today is a first for
this veteran quarterback.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
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Speaker 2 (23:53):
All right, we're gonna name him coach of the Year
in just about a minute. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Firman.
This is Fox Football Sunday. But first we're gonna check
it with our man of the Year, Kevin Wyatt with
all the sports.

Speaker 4 (24:04):
Man of the year. Oh yeah, say something I certainly
aspired to on this show every every day. So I
know you do, I know you do. We've got some
injury updates though in the NFL, as Adam Schefter was
some pupp list candidates to come off the list and
open their practice window. TJ. Howkinson is coming off of

(24:24):
major knee injury but is nearing a return to practice.
According to Schefter, the return to play dates for Hawkinson
Thursday night, October twenty, fourth game in Los Angeles or
the following week's home game against the Colts. That scene
as the most likely time he'll be back for Minnesota.
Brown's expected to open the practice window this week on

(24:45):
Nick Chubb, who is nearing a return from the pupp
list after a sideline after his knee injury in week
two of last season, and Schefter also saying that Justin
Herbert has been free of setbacks. He's preparing to play
today against the Chiefs. So very key news right there.
For the LA Chargers. He and Rapaport with some updates

(25:07):
overnight Bucks running back for Sead White, He's on the
injury report this week with an illness food poisoning specifically,
but he is expected to play today, has his condition
has improved rapidly. Rapaport also saying that forty nine Ers
wide receiver Deebo Samuel and left tackle Trent Williams listed
as questionable but both likely to play. Williams being active,

(25:29):
could hinge on a pregame workout, according to the tweet,
but there is optimism he'll be able to go. Texan's
running back Joe Mixon is considered a game at time
decision with his ankle injury. He has worked hard to
come back and it very well could be an uphill
climb for him to play, but he has not given up.
He's going to test it out and see if he
can go. Rap Report saying that Bear's wide receiver Keenan

(25:52):
Allen listened as questionable, expected to play today. He's been
out the last couple of games with a heel injury.
Saints running back Alvin co Era, wide receiver Chris o'lave
expected to play. Jaguars wide receiver Gabe Davis also should
be able to go today. He is questionable with a
shoulder injury. As for the action in the college ranks.

(26:13):
On Saturday, we had a couple of upsets, both by
wildcat teams. In the SEC, it's Kentucky beating number six
Ole miss twenty to seventeen and in the Big Twelve
Arizona taking down number ten Utah twenty three to ten.
But the big game of the night in at Tuscaloosa,
Number two Georgia number four Alabama. The tie had a

(26:34):
twenty eight point lead at one point, but the Dogs
came back and had a chance to tie it with
forty three seconds to go, but Zabian Brown picks off
Carson beck In at the end zone to seal the
win for the Crimson Tide as they win at forty
one to thirty four as part of three interceptions on
the day. For Becky did have three touchdowns and four
and thirty nine passing yards, but also three picks, including

(26:57):
that costly won there at the end. Top right, Texas
they get their first ever SEC win as a member
of that conference in conference play thirty five thirteen and
they beat Mississippi State as arch Manning had two touchdown
passes three are in twenty four yards in that win.
Number three Ohio State thirty eight seven against Michigan State
number eight. Oregon pounds UCLA thirty four to thirteen, ninth

(27:20):
rank Penn State twenty one seven winners and gets Umber
nineteen Illinois number twelve. Michigan gets by Minnesota twenty seven
to twenty four number thirteen USCA home win against Wisconsin
thirty eight to twenty one. Backs you guys, all right.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
Thanks so much. Let's get right into these games. He's
Bucket Brooks on Andy Furman, Fox Football Sunday, Broncos at
Jets today. Broncos won of Tampa last week, Jets beating
New England. And as for the Broncos, I gotta believe
that they need a little more respect. Of course, the
three teams they faced had a combined regular of eight
and one. Okay, they went to Tampa. They defeated a
team that was undefeated at the time. As for the Jets,
their quarterback Aaron Rodgers looked like an MVP when they

(27:55):
played Patriots. But that's the Patriots. Okay, this guy and
I looked this up. This is unbelievable. He never threw
a touchdown pass to a first round wide receiver during
his eighteen years in Green Bay. Now he's got Garrett Wilson.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
All right.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
I like this game because I tell you what, you
don't know which way it's going to go. I will
take the Jets. I think I judged the Jets to
me have more, more of a complete unit and a
great defense. Rodgers becomes the first Jet quarterback to beat
the Vikings at night since Brett Farb and that was
sixteen years ago. I like the Jets, Jets, Jets, Jets.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
Look, I think the Jets are trending in the right direction.
Brett Farv, I mean not Brett Farv. Aaron Rodgers has
given them what they needed at the quarterback position in
terms of like an elite quarterback. He's not what he
once was, but his intelligence, his confidence, his expertise in
terms of knowing how to play the position has certainly
helped him. He will eventually get Garrett Wilson over the

(28:54):
top and Garret Wilson be the impactful playmaker that we
all expect he would be, much like DeVonta Adams. Yeah,
right now, the things are trending right for the Jays.
Their defense is good enough, but offensively they're making stress
each and every week and they continue.

Speaker 4 (29:06):
All right, This is a goodie.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
Vikings undefeated three to zero at the Packers are two
and one, and I said, let's have these coach of
the years right now. They both, these coaches right now
could be in the running as we speak today as
coach of the year. Why Vikings beat the Texans last
week thirty four to seven, Packers beat the Titans thirty fourteen.
And the Packers without Jordan Love, who may be playing today,
their coach, Matt Lafleur, should be coach of the year,
at least a candidate of Coach of the year. Y

(29:30):
because the Packers believe they don't have the league's top
rushing attack six hundred twelve rushing yards the fourthmost by
any team through three games is nineteen ninety all right.
They also have a league high nine takeaways. They're playing
great football. What if the Vikings Sam Donald's surprising everybody,
leading the league with eight touchdown passes. It's unbelievable, and
their defense is tremendous. So you got guys like Kevin
O'Connell coaching the Vikes and you got Matt Lafleur coaching

(29:51):
the Packers, both right now high quality coaches looking as
maybe Coach of the Year candidates, What do you think
of this game? I like the Packers. I like the
the Packers in this game.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
Normally I would like the Packers. But to me, Minnesota's
defense is legit. Brian Floyd is and what he's doing
with that defense now that he has more talent, they
are making life miserable for play callers and passers. They
know that they face a tough running game, so they
will take the running game away. And if Jordan Love
comes back his first game back, They're gonna make a

(30:23):
dogged effort to knock him around and hit him because
his mobility would certainly be limited. And the Vikings, to me,
are one of the teams that we're going to talk
about being a Super Bowl contender. They make a statement
this time against the Packers.

Speaker 4 (30:38):
Wow. Okay.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
And I'm not going to go back to the picks
that I had next week because I was dreadful. But
I think so were a lot of other people. I mean,
there were a lot of surprises last week. I look
at the Saints Falcons right now, Falcons one and two.
They didn't look good at all. Saints two and one.
Saints lost to the Eagles. Falcons lost to the Chiefs
that had the Chiefs that had them. They did the
LUs twenty two to seventeen. And that Saints offense, obviously,
I don't know what happened last week. The first two
games had forty seven and forty four points. But their

(31:02):
defense is pretty good too, because it's the corner Alante Taylor.
He's got almost four sacks. So Derek Carr for them
to win, he needs to go back to the forms
that he had in game one and two. I don't
know if he can. And as far as the Falcons
are concerned, I gotta believe their offensive line is dreadful.
I mean, I just I don't know what's happening with
that Falcons team. I don't think they're a playoff contender.
I really don't.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
So in this Saints I'm sorry, I'm.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
Gonna go the other way. I'm gonna go at the
Falcons in this game. What's interesting is kubi X offense.
I've been rolling the first couple of weeks, but then
the ego stemy it.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
How many people?

Speaker 3 (31:36):
How many teams will take a similar blueprint and use
that against the Saints until the Saints show that they
can counter that.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
You gotta remember this.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
Raheem Morris spent a lot of time.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
With the Rams.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
The godfather of the Rams system is Vic Fangio because
Brandon Staley brought that system and scheme to the Rams
and they kind of continued on.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
RAYM.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
Morris looked just at the Philadelphia Eagles film and he
knows those calls, he knows how to do that. He's
gonna replicate that. And if they're able to slow that
team down, the Valcans can move the ball on the Saints.

Speaker 6 (32:08):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
To me, I'm just leaning.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
Into the Vic Fangio. Mcvaghery eventually leads Rightie Morris to
find the right combination of play calls to be able
to thwart that offense and get his team into the
winner circle this week.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
All right, I hear, all right? If we had this
Eagles Bucks game, Tampa Bay Bucks doing well at two
and one, Eagles two and one, and the question I
had are the Eagles a top five team? I think
that's the big question of the day right now, because
as far as the top five teams, in my mind,
you got the Chiefs Bills. You're going interchange those maybe,
but those are one two two one Chiefs and the Bills.

(32:45):
I'm putting the Vikings there, I'm putting the lines there,
I'm putting the Packers there, and I am putting the Eagles.
I think the Eagles are a top five team.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
Agreed, I think they are. But you name more than
five teams, so some.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
Of the outside, Yeah, some of those teams gonna be
on the outside looking in.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
The Eagles are talented enough to do it.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
They haven't played their best yet, but yeah, they certainly
deserve to be in that conversation as a top ten team.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
What about sai Kuon Barkley, I mean last week at
a sixty five yard touchdown run, I mean, he is
really really ignited this Eagles team, especially without their wide
receiver AJ Brown Devonte Smith. They've they've been out, so
Saquon Barkley really as he did with the Giants carrying
the offense.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
Yeah, he's back to carrying the offense. He's a unique player.
He does everything for them. He stabilizes the team because
they can always lean into him as the primary runner.
He can do it in the passing game. But yeah,
he's the best player and they're finding ways to get
them the ball in it in ways that defense can't
contain them. It's one on one, two on one, three

(33:53):
on two whatever in space, and so he's winning that
numbers battle on the perimeter. They got to get their
quarterback going, though. They got to find a way to
get Jalen Hurts going. He hasn't played great in a
long time. It's not for them to get him going.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
I'm glad you mentioned him because he's got eight straight
games with the turnover in every one of those games.
If you can control the ball, they win this ball game.
It's easy as that. That's it. It's not that difficult,
it really is. There you go, Bucky Brooks, Andy Furman,
Fox Football Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. It is time
for all your answers. Why because ass Bucky is next.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio, all.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Right, asked Bucky right around the corners about twelve minutes
now before the top of the hour. He's Bucky Brooks
and Andy Furman, and we are Fox Football Sunday on
Fox Sports Radio. By the way, football fans, be sure
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(34:52):
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get going. Ask Bucky first question your early MVP in
the NFL, Bucky.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
Brooks gotta be Josh Adam.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
The player that I saw last Monday night was fantastic.
You move Stefan Diggs, you move Gabe Davis. But yet
his game has gone up. The way that he controls
the game, the way that he dominates the game as
a run and a thrower. Right now, hands down, he's
the easy MVP.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
All right, here we go. Now, is Travis Kelcey slowing
down at his age of thirty four or is it
just the defenses are making a lot tougher on him?

Speaker 1 (35:39):
Both? But he's slowing down.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
It's one of those things that great players have a
tough time acknowledging. He is not the player that he
once was. And I saw this before with Antonio Gates.
They still are great players, they just have to go
about it differently. They've lost some of the athleticism in speed,
he has lost some of that, so he has to
kind of up the craftiness to be able to get
his production. But he's not the player that he once

(36:03):
was two years ago.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
Yeah, And a lot of the media people are saying
is because of the time he spent with Taylor Swift
going on the concert to it and it was wonderful.
Just the other day when his coach Andy rees and that,
it's a lot of bunk. You know, he's still Travis Kelsey.
I mean, hey, look, maybe in Andy Reid's mind he
knows what you know, and he's saying he's saying the
same thing in his mind, but he will not go
public with that.

Speaker 4 (36:23):
He still supports Travis Kelcey.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
Yeah, he's gonna support him, because what good does the
dude to go public with that? Like then it's just
another thing that people are talking about. Nah, he understands
what it is. He knows what he has in his
number his number one target in the passing game, Travis Kelcey.
He needs Travis to be great down the stretching in
the postseason. They should have enough young players around him
now that he could kind of be on cruise control

(36:49):
right now, but I still expect him to be a
dangerous player when we get to the playoffs. He still
will be a guy that Patrick Mahomes goes to early
and offen.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
All Right, your top NFL TV commentator and why.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
M top commentator and why I love what look? I
love listening to Greg Olsen. Greg Olsen is smart and
even though he's no longer with the A team because
Tom Prady came, look, Olsen is I would say the
best in the bids in terms of understanding how to
set it up, and he gives it to you from
a different perspective than the quarterback.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
I'm not gonna take anything away from what Tom Brady
wants to accomplish.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
I think in time he'll be the one that we
talked about.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
Read about his preparation, which is already legendary. He's gonna
be fine. He just needs more time.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
All right, I hear what you're saying. Well, we move on.
Here's an interesting story which I picked up just the
other day. Said Dereck Henry spends a quarter of a
million dollars a year on his body because he wants
to stay in shape.

Speaker 4 (37:47):
Why does he do that?

Speaker 2 (37:47):
But there is the average age for a running back
and the NFL is about twenty seven point eight years old.
In fact, they say this year there are only four
running backs on an NFL roster over the age of thirty.
Is that normal to spend that kind of money to
stay in shape for a player.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
Yeah, it's unfortunate that he has to spend it out
of his own pocket, but yeah, you have to do that.
And if you want to play at a high level
in this league, your body is everything.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
You got to take care of it. You got to
preserve it.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
You got to make sure you know how to rest
and recovery so you can get the kind of performance
that you need to play at the high level. I'm
not surprised that he's investing that kind of money himself
because obviously the results speak for themselves.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
Yeah, I'm going to share this with you because it's
kind of interesting. He has his own private chef and
he prepares every meal and he avoids fried foods, gluten, dairy,
artificial sugar. And get this, he only eats two meals
a day three times chicken breast rice with broccoli, meal
number two gluten free pancakes, scrambled eggs, dice potatoes, home fries,

(38:49):
and steak. And here's the craziest part of Derrick Henry's
training routine. He doesn't eat his first meal until four
or five PM. During the season. He's playing every single
game on an empty stomach. Think about that, and everybody
talks about pregame meals. He's playing on an empty stomach
when he plays at one o'clock Easton.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
Well, I bet you if you ask him, I bet
you he modifies that on game day. He has to
have some gas to be able to participate and play
at a high level on game day. But in terms
of walking around, I can see where he walk around
and doesn't eat as much because you don't necessarily need to.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
We overeat.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
He's a freak show in terms of an older running
back that that's playing at the level that he's playing at,
but the way he takes care of his body, the
way he's meticulous about his diet.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
I now have a greater understanding why.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
Yeah Now, Jamar Chase, Bengals wide receiver, says the Bengals
quarterback Joe Burrow should be more vocal now, can it
play a change his personality. If he's not really a
vocal kind of guy.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
You have to be who you are. So you got
to lead in your own way.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
And so if you're amped up, a guy that likes confrontation,
a guy that doesn't mind using some spicy language, then
you do that. If you're more reserved, then your performance
got to speak for yourself.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
And that goes for coaches too. You gotta be real
players could see right through if the coaches being phoni
are not right, this is where he is. Like Marv
Levy would never cuss or either Tony Dungee. That's the
way it is, all right, Why is one NFL quarterback struggling?
Bucky Brooks has the answer? Where how Fox Football Sunday
coming up right here next? Now, it's not all his fault.
We'll explain that in just about a minute. Good morning, everybody,

(40:21):
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is the main man himself, my partner, Bucky Brooks. And
this is in my mind, the best part of this
show because this is where we highlight Bucky Brooks because
he has the most intelligence of any football guy. We
asked him the question in last hour, but the best
football commentator, I would say it's Bucky Brooks. Really, Brooks
basically is yes, yes, don't be shy.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
I wish I could take that title. I wish I
could take that title. In game you will that.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
I promise you should be doing NFL games for Fox
And that's going to happen down the road that I know,
I feel it. I do NFL dot Com every week,
you have a column. You're on Fox Sports as well,
but I like the NFL dot Com. And this week
he wrote about what is wrong with Caleb Williams. If
you remember now going back on time with Caleb Williams
and Jayden Daniels are the first two players selected in

(41:30):
the draft last April. Now, all of a sudden, Jayden
Daniels is like emerged as a wowee kind of guy
and Caleb Williams is well the number one pick for
the Bears, He's struggling. Passed a riding sixty five percent,
the lowest among NFC quarterbacks. I'm gonna say right here
and now, it's not entirely his fault. Tell me, look,

(41:52):
the Bears have the worst offense in the conference of
two hundred and forty nine yards a game, So it
can't be entirely his fault. What is wrong? But Kee Brooks,
you wrote about it. What's wrong with Caleb Williams.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
There are a few things wrong.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
One, he's a victim of his own circumstance in terms
of everyone over hyped him coming into the situation. Right,
the Bears for so long had the number one overall pick.
There was a constant conversation between Kayler Williams and Justin
Fields going back to last regular season.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
So Bears fans.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
Were convinced that they were getting the next coming right,
the next generational quarterback to come through. And unfortunately, he's
a really good prospect, but he's not what everyone kind
of made him out to be. And you now put
him in a situation where they upgraded the personnel around
the team, right, They added wide receivers and Keenan Allen,

(42:47):
roma Doonsa, you get DeAndre Swift, you have colcamed and
Gerald Everett and those guys. You feel like you're good
enough with the offensive line. And what hasn't happened. He
hasn't hit the ground run. But you got to remember
he didn't come into the league with the kind of
experience that Jayden Daniels had. Jade Daniels had fifty five
collegiate stars, bo Nicks had sixty four collegiate starts. Katy

(43:11):
Williams was in the high thirties, not quite forty, and
he's learning how to play, but he's also learning that
the NFL game is so different in the college game,
speed of the defense, complexity of the defense, how quickly
everyone reacts, and some of the things that he was
able to get away with big play hunting at USC,
he can't do that in Chicago. And so his game

(43:32):
won't improve until he's able to be more of an
on schedule, on rhythm type passer. And that's hard to
do for someone who has always lived on improvisation.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
So are you telling me that when these personnel people
and scouts are in that warroom getting ready to draft,
and they're going to draft the quarterback. Not only did
he look at tons of tape and look at a
competition they played against and maybe the lead they played,
and they look to see how many games they played,
because that really helps as far as going into the
next level.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
Is that what they absolutely absolutely going back to Bill Parcells,
Bill Parcels used to have overrule. Now it has to
be updated to fit the day's model. But what Bill
Parcells wanted, he wanted guys that had started two and
a half years. He wanted guys that had logged thirty starts,
twenty three wins, college graduates, four year players. Because the

(44:27):
position requires a certain maturity to be able to be successful.
The position is a leadership position more than just a
talent position. You have to be able to convey what
is needed to grownups that are older than you and
handle yourself and it takes a mature player to do that.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
Experience matters.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
One of the reasons why Brock Perdy, in my mind,
has been so successful. Man he played, had forty nine
starts that iowould state, won thirty games, set a ton
of w records in cycle on history.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
Yeah, he was a.

Speaker 3 (44:59):
Good player and that's he felt like he could be
a good player with the Niners. Experience matters, and we're
seeing more of the young quarterbacks that are having success
are guys who played a long time in college to
get those reps.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
It's amazing, and you really you don't hear a lot
about that from the soul called draft experts.

Speaker 4 (45:17):
You think about that.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
I mean, it always give you the stats what they
did in college, but they don't really tell you how
many games they've played.

Speaker 4 (45:24):
That's the key right there.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
Looking that with the forty nine ers, they got to
bust two years ago in their quarterback, right, he hardly
played it all. Plus he played at a team that
you wouldn't consider a major power, right.

Speaker 3 (45:34):
Small school, Yeah, right, something, there's something in my mind,
there's something to that too. I want big school players
log significant snaps. I want to play against the best
of the best, so I can have an idea of
what they're going to play like and people can say, oh, well,
you're missing whatever, the diamond in the rough, the hidden gym.

(45:55):
But part of scouting is eliminating some of the rips.
I want to eliminate the risk by being able to
create the best players playing against the best players so
that I can get a better assessment of who they are,
what they are, and how they're going to play at
the next level.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
Okay, so now we're in the three weeks in the
season right now, as you mentioned, Caleb and the Bears
have struggled. They're one and two. Jaden and the Commanders
are tied for first place at two and one, and
what are they doing. Everybody's raving about the number two
overall pick, which to me, he's gonna put a lot
more pressure on Caleb Williams. You believe me, he sees this,
he hears, does he reads it? I mean that's pressure.

(46:32):
And you got to get a coach. I would think
that gets him and one on one and say, look
forget about the outside noises. This is what you gotta do.
But he's not getting much help from his running game either.
In Chicago with DeAndre Swift thirty seven carries for sixty
eight yards. You got to get a running gate to
help this quarterback out. That's the key too.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
You do have to get there, but you have to
be intentional. Now, remember they brought Shane Waldron over from
the Seattle Seahawks, and for whatever reason, the second year
of his tenuresc kind of fell apart and we don't
know how it's being put together. You talk about the
running game and those things. Here's what I know, Kaylyn

(47:12):
Williams is being used too much. Like in basketball they
talk about usage rate. Well, when I look at the
pass attempts that Kayld Williams has had, he has one
hundred and eighteen pass attempts through three games, fifty two
against the Bears, Way too many. Most young quarterbacks, you
want to ease them in. You put them on a
pitch count twenty five to thirty passes a game, not

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fifty two. It's too much for someone who's inexperience to
play against defenses and have that much exposure to hits
and conflicting coverage opportunities.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
They got to scale it back.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
Less is more, and if they do fewer things with
them fewer opportunities, he will get better because he'll have
a better understanding of how to play the game.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
You know, I've said this once and I don't see
a lot of things that really makes sense, but I'll
say this, I'm surprised no one has ever done a
statistical study on this that when you look at the
box scores late on the Sunday night or early Monday morning.
Any quarterback that slows for thirty five or more attempts
more often than not that team lost. Do you agree.
I mean, and no one has ever really done a

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comparative study or statistical study on that fact. I'm telling
you thirty five attempts are more during a game, more
often than not, that team has lost the game. They're
come up from behind, it they got to pass.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
And some people will say, well, there's no direct correlation
because time on tasks, right, So depending on game circumstance
and those things, you can't dictate that. But there is
something to saying. We want to make sure that we
limit his opportunities. We want to make sure we keep
them on a bit of a pitch count. We want
to be intentional about running the football and taking it

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off his shoulders.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
We want to make sure everyone in the.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
Building understands we are a complimentary football team, meaning we
need to run under football, we need to play great defense.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
We're gonna slowly.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
Give him the reins, but he may not get the
full offense or the four run of the show until
after midway in the season. Early in the year we
need him to manage the game. Later in the year,
maybe he can take on. But yeah, it has to
be a concerted effort by the entire team when you're
playing a young quarterback.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
There we go. Let's talk about the Bengals. They got
a young quarterback and Joe Burrow and they're playing the
Panthers today. Bengals have not won a game, which I'm
surprised that a lot of people around the League of
surprise the Panthers one. Last week they're one and two.
Bengals lost to the Commanders. Thirty eight thirty three is
the most points that Washington Commanders have scored in four years.
It's amazing Panthers beat the Raiders. That was a shot

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to thirty six twenty two of them. And I'm talking
about not personnel, because you know, everybody sits around they
talk about personnel, the matchups. You know, I think there's
a lot to be said about attitude, attitude, and I
look at this Bengals team and when I think of
they talk too much, I hear Jamar Chase says, where
the team to beat? Jamar, you know what you forgot

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if you got to say what year? You know where
the team to beat. Are you are you freaking kidding me?

Speaker 4 (50:09):
What have you done?

Speaker 2 (50:09):
And then last week before they played the Commanders, their
quarterback Cam Taylor brit says, uh, that we're playing against
a high school offense. How do you How does a
coach let these guys say these things? It would never
happen with Mike Tomlin that I promise you a guy
would never open his mouth on a Mike Tomlin coach team.
Maybe I'm wrong, you tell me.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
You know, it's a fine line, right.

Speaker 3 (50:32):
You want your players to be themselves, but you also
want them to always protect the team. You want them
to not engage in things that are going to kind
of bring about what we call like the bulletin board material.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
Right, we want to kind of keep it in perspective. Uh.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
Man, it looks it's tough sometimes though to keep them
to keep it all together. But I will say this, Uh,
they got to play better, you know, And I would
say this, it's kind of what happens when your team
is fractured. Right, So when you don't get everybody signed,
you have contract issues that linger into the season.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
You get some of this.

Speaker 3 (51:11):
So the t Higgins thing, t Higgins not getting his
deals Jamar Chase not getting his deal done.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
Well, you got two guys that are not happy.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
You know they're not They're disgruntled, and they can kind
of play behind it like no, no, no, they'll be okay,
but they're not happy. And so if you're not happy,
it's going to show up in your interactions with the
team and those things.

Speaker 1 (51:35):
And I think that's what you're seeing.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
You're seeing a team that is not fully connected, and
that's why they're not able to be able to get
these doves to.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
Get these wins.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
I'll tell you who's not happy right now, probably Bryce Young.
He was bench last week in that Carolina team and
the Panthers won and they beat the Radies. As I mentioned,
so Andy Dolton comes off the bench for the Panthers,
throws for three hundred and nineteen yards, throw us for
three touchdowns. And I found this out. This is an
amazing stat Really, Andy Dalton is in the top twenty
five old time NFL quarterbacks and touchdowns thrown. He has

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two hundred and forty nine career touchdowns. He's trailing Drew
Bledsoell right now at two fifty one and Dan Fouts
at two fifty four and I'll tell you right now,
he'll pass those guys today because I'm telling you with
the fracture, as you mentioned with the Bengals, Carolina's gonna win.
The Panthers are going to beat the Bengals today in Carolina.
Dalton is three and one against his foreign team, the Bengals.

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So I'm telling you here, Bengals go on four.

Speaker 4 (52:31):
Not good.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
Not good for Zach Taylor. I tell you that much.
That's not good for him.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
What do you think? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (52:36):
But that's yeah, but that's what they always start slow
under Zach Taylor. Like that's kind of part of the deal,
you know. So this is funny because Andy Dalton played
so well last week? Can he really replicate that? Can
he do that again?

Speaker 1 (52:53):
Though? Can he?

Speaker 3 (52:54):
I mean everything kind of fill into place for him.
I don't know if he truly can do it all
over free in player.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
He's going against the team that can't stop the run.
That's for sure. They run the football. They'll win that
ball game today, they really will. So we'll see what happens. Okay,
let's talk about your Jacksonville Jags. They're owing three as well.
They're playing at Texas at Houston and playing the Texans.

Speaker 4 (53:16):
They're two.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
And when your Jags lost big time to the Bills,
and that was really no surprise at Bills to me
might be the best team in football right now, forty.

Speaker 4 (53:23):
Seven to ten.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
They lose. The Texans lost though, to the Vikes thirty
four to seven. They lost big. So what the JAG's
got to do? And you know better than me because
you're a Jag Okay, not that a Jack or a Jaguar. Okay, Jack, guy,
I know, Jack. They got to run the ball. Don't
get into a shootout in this game. You got to
eat up the clock. I mean, this is common sense, really,

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but that's the game plan really. And your defense. You
got to get a pass rush. You got to show
me something. You got to rush the passer. You got
a young secondary. So what's gonna happen. The Texans are
gonna go with Stefan Diggs and Nico Collins or to
attack the secondary. That's it, right, that's basically the game.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
Well, I mean, look, it's gonna be a big part
of it. So here's what I say about the Jags.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
The Jags thing is more of a confidence thing than
anything else. So when you collapse the way that you
collapse at the end of last year. Everything is magnified
when you don't have things go your way very early
in the year. And what has happened is those little
hiccups have become bigger because of the hangover from last year.
What the Jags need is they just kind of need

(54:29):
to let it go and let it play. They're good
enough to win games, they're good enough to play at
a level where you can see them emerge as one
of the top teams.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
But they have to do it. They can't talk about it.
They have to do it.

Speaker 3 (54:41):
And so until they just lock in focus and play well,
it's kind of hard to say that they're gonna be
able to get dubs.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
They got to lock in and play well.

Speaker 4 (54:50):
Well.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
I look the Texas. They put pressure on Trevor Lawrence.
He's a turnover machine. Anyway they put pressure on Trevor Lawrence,
they could get ugly, you know, because he just had
that thing. He turns the ball over. I mean, he's
a skilled quarterback, but if he has one drawback the
Achilles heel with Trevor Lawrence, he's a turnover machine.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
He really is.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
Look and he may be, but here's what I will say.
He needs to play I would say more with more
edge and more to the line, meaning you need to
push him to a let it go man, don't worry
about the turnovers and the mistakes, let it go, cut
it loose, because after watching Josh Allen play care free
and loose and all of that, I just think it's

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a big part.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
Of who he needs to be.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
He needs to be fearless and courageous and go after
and not worry about some of the mistakes because he'll
eventually find that line in those boundaries. But trying to
play perfect, you're not getting the best version of him.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
Well, I'll say this, the Texans don't have much of
a run game. And looking back now in Week one
they played the Colts, they are twenty nine points and
two hundred and thirteen yards on the ground. The last
two weeks for the Texans, they've matched those numbers. They
can't even match those numbers for the first week for
the last two weeks for the Texans. So they're gonna pass.
They're gonna test out the Jaguarts a young secondary and

(56:07):
with Stefan Diggs and Nico Collins, I could have a
big day. And I don't want to say who's gonna
win this one? Because I don't want to hurt your feelings.
You had a bed enough day yesterday with North Carolina losing.
So I'm not gonna go saying the Texans are gonna win.
I hope it's competitive, and for yours say, I hope
Jacksonville wins. I do. I hope Jacksonville wins. I don't
think they will, but I hope they do.

Speaker 4 (56:28):
I really.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
Yeah. Look, it's hard, they haven't played well. The Texas
are smarting.

Speaker 3 (56:32):
From a big loss and embarrassing loss to the Minnesota Vikings.
It's not ideal, but this is a rivalry where I
think the last five games the road team is won.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
We will see.

Speaker 3 (56:42):
This is actually the last place that Trevor Lawrence got
to win. It's been that long. It's been a full
year since he's gotta win. So maybe today it turns around.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
He's Bucket Brooks, get him on X, get him on Twitter,
whatever you want to call it. Yoz at Bucket Brooks
and Andy Ferman that FasR A and today will have
that's Houston time. Of course, Mike Harmer will be here
to get him at Swollen Dome or eight seven seven
ninety nine on Fox. That's eight seven, seven, nine, ninety
six sixty three sixty nine bottom barrel betting in this hour.
And of course there's a reason this team won't compete.

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I'm gonna tell you why next. It was an improbable comeback.
That's coming right up. This is Fox Football Sunday on
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This surprise team, I think right now, besides Minnesota, it's
got to be the Pittsburgh Steels that all the media say, oh,

(57:57):
quarterback controversy, this and that another is it? Because right
now the controversy might be the Steelers, maybe willing Detroit
Russell Wilson because justin fields right now is pretty effective.
Steele is a three and zero. They're playing the Colts
today in Indie. They're one and two. Last week the
Steelers beat the Charges twenty ten. Colts beeat the Bears
twenty one sixteen. What makes Justin Field so effective I'm saying,

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but I say, because their defense is so good that
makes him effective. Takes a lot of pressure off them.
Is that a correct answer.

Speaker 3 (58:29):
I think it goes beyond that. I think what has
happened is Justin Fields.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
Is in the right spot for him.

Speaker 3 (58:35):
He is the right offensive coordinator in Arthur Smith, who
understands how to build a running game and a complimentary
passing game that works for a mobile quarterback. You got
to remember Arthur Smith Hill Ryan Tannehill resurrect his career
in Tennessee play action passing, using his athleticism to get
on the perimeter, gave some run pass options in those
things in Pittsburgh. Because the city understands that running in

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defense has produced championships for them in the past, they
can lean a little more into what we call ugly football,
old school football, where you're running and doing things, and
in turn they're able to utilize Justin fields athleticism, his
running skills, and his improving passing ability to score just
enough to win games. To me, this is a perfect

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fit in Pittsburgh. Justin Fields is the young, dynamic quarterback
that they needed. He'll continue to grow and get better,
but it works when he doesn't turn the ball over.
He hasn't turned the ball over, so they won games.
That's why it's a really really good fit.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
Right now.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
His pass average right now is like seventy three percent
fifty five for seventy five five hundred and eighteen odds two touchdowns.
And we'll talk about now what you had mentioned early
on comes to pass as far as the culture concern
Anthony Richardson, he's got to play better. Why he didn't
have a lot of experience coming into the league either.
You know, whatever you said about these quarterbacks having more
play in college before they get to the NFL makes

(59:59):
a big difference, and it certainly he's making a difference.
When Anthony Richardson right now, he's got a forty nine
percent completion rate, which is the bottom of the league.

Speaker 4 (01:00:06):
He's got to play better.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
And you know what, he's not going to see a
pass rush like he has never seen before today when
the steal is good after him today, it's gonna be unbelievable.
They're going to shut down Jonathan Taylor and boy, he's
going to be running for his life.

Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
Yeah, I mean, that's the thing. Anthony Richardson is a
guy who's been a flash. But okay, we talk about experience.
I think Anthony Richardson has only played nineteen games as
a starting quarterback since.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
He left high school. That's not a lot of experience.

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
And so when people wonder about these mistakes and errors
that he make, some of those are he's on the
job training. No matter how many playmakers or athletes should
put around him, he has to go through some of
this stuff because that's just part of the maturation process.
And unfortunately for Coots fans, he's having to do it

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while he's with the coach. He didn't get a chance
to do that when he was at Florida elsewhere they
got to live through this.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
He's talented.

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
He's gonna have flashes that are going to make you
really excited about what he could be.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
But he's not a finished.

Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
Product yet, and you hope that the rest of the
team can take care of him until he is able
to kind of flip it and become the playmaker that
they need him to be.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
And you're going to see him next week. He's coming
to Jacksonville. And this way you Jags will gotta win
next week because they can play the Colts in Jacksonville
next week. See she feels good about that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
Can't look at, can't look at, can't look ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:01:27):
It's a week the week league. You never know what's
gonna happen. He could light it up.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
I think that's well, we'll see, well, who knows.

Speaker 3 (01:01:35):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
The Rams are playing in Chicago to Both teams are
one and two. Last week, the Rams beat the forty
nine and that was unbelievable finish twenty seven to twenty four.
Of the Bears lost that in the twenty one to sixteen.
But the Rams are still down their wide receivers Cooper
Cup and Pooka Nakoua. They're down, but they still won.
They've got their run game of Kareean Williams. He had
three touchdowns against the forty nine ers last week. And

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the Bears against the Colts last week gave up one
hundred and fifty yards on the ground. I would say
right now the Rams should be two and two by
the end of the day today and the Bears fall
to one and three. Really, there's some doubt here. I'm
hearing some doubt.

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
I don't know. Man, The bears oftense scares me. Man,
it's so bad. Keenan Allen comes back, so that's your help.

Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
But man, I understand why you want to lean that way.
Keenan Allen should be a big hip. Okay, let's go
that way. I'll go with the Bears because Keenan Allen
comes back.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
But I don't have a lot of confidence.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
Yeah, I don't think you should. All right, you're going
with the Bears. I'm going with the Rams. There we go,
all right, he's Bucket Brooks. I'm made it from we
are Fox Football Sunday and Fox Sports. Ready, now, one
NFL quarterback is rushing to the top. That's next. But first,
this man is already.

Speaker 4 (01:02:48):
On top, on top of his game, on top of
all these there you go, on top of all these
NFL injuries. As we're just a few hours away from
kicking off Week four. Already in the NFL, Adam Schefter
saying that DeVante Adams, pulling up lame in Raiders practice
on Thursday, grabbed his hamstring and it's an injury that

(01:03:09):
is expected to sideline him on a week to week basis,
and he added onto that just maybe half an hour
or so ago, saying the Raiders rejected multiple teams that
approached them over to some er over the summer inquiring
whether Devontae Adams would be available in a trade, and
the Raiders considered a trade a non starter and turned

(01:03:30):
away teams before they could even consider, before the teams
could even present an offer, so that might be backfiring
on Las Vegas. Adam Schefter also saying that Justin Herbert,
free of setbacks, is preparing to play for the LA
Chargers today against the Kansas City chiefs Ian Rappaport with

(01:03:50):
a few injury updates overnight. Reshad White, dealing with a
food poisoning issue, is recovered rapidly, so he is expected
to play today. Forty nine Ers wide receiver Deebo Samuel
and left tackle Trent Williams are both listed as questionable
and are likely to play, with the report by Rappaport
saying Williams being active could hinge on a pregame workout,

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but there is optimism he will be able to go.
Texans running back Joe Mixon is considered a game time
decision with his ankle injury. He's been trying to get
back to play. It was an uphill climb and he's
gonna test it out and see if he'll be able
to go. Keenan Allen expected to play after he's been
out the last couple of games with a heat injury.
He is questionable, but they are expecting him out there.

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Saints running back Alvin Kamara and wide receiver Chris o'lave
expected to play for New Orleans Jaguars, wide receiver Game
Davis is questionable, but he should be good to go.
In the college ranks, a couple of upsets in the
top ten, both at the hands of Wild Kats Kentucky
over number six Ole Miss twenty to seventeen, handing the

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Rebels there first loss of the season, and in Salt
Lake City, Arizona over number ten Utah twenty three to ten.
But down in tuscalouse to that huge matchup Number two
Georgia number four Alabama. The Crimson tide up by twenty
eight at one point, but Georgia came fighting back and
got to within one score one touchdown with forty three

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seconds ago. A pass into the end zone by Carson Beck,
picked off by Zabian Brown to seal the win for
the Crimson Tide. It was part of three interceptions by Beck.
He also had three touchdowns and four and thirty nine yards,
But it is the Crimson Tide holding on forty forty
one thirty four victory. Arch Manning, though, looking pretty good
for the Longhorns as he throws two touchdown passes three

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in twenty four yards and Texas their first win as
a member of the SEC in conference play. They beat
Mississippi State thirty five to thirteen in three Ohio State
o orre Michigan State thirty eight to seven, Number eight
Oregon pounds UCLA thirty four to five, thirteen Number nine
Penn State twenty seven seven winners over number nineteen Illinois

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and number twelve Michigan escapes against Minnesota, stopping a furious
comeback attempt by the Golden Gophers to win at twenty
seven to twenty four at number thirteen. Usc bouncing back
from there lost in Michigan last week, winning at home
against Wisconsin thirty eight to twenty one. Back to you guys,
all right.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
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from now. But right this second, we're going to talk

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about the commanders at the Arizona Cardinals Cardinals one and two,
Commanders two and one. Last week, Commanders over the Bengals
thirty eight thirty three. That's two wins in a row
for the Commanders. The Cardinals lost to the Lions twenty thirteen.
And the wide receiver Terry McLaurin of the Washington Commanders
one hundred receiving yards against the Bengals. I mean, this

(01:07:26):
guy's come to life this year for the Commanders. He
really has.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
Yeah, he has come to life.

Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
But when you come to life when you have a
really good quarterback, and he has a really good quarterback
that's doing a really good job of finding him in
key moments. It's great that we are now gaining a
true appreciation for how good he is. He's been good
for a while, he just dosn't have the opportunities to
really showcase it. But now he has an exciting quarterback.

(01:07:53):
He's touching the rock, he's been able to make plays.
People now understand how good Scary Tearry.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
Is no doubt that Jayden Daniels' quarterbacks at a rookie
record for completions in that game last week ninety one
point three percent. And the Commander is this is an
unbelievable statistic. They haven't punked it in a game since
the first week of the season. That's an amazing stat
It really is tells you a lot about their offense.
It really does.

Speaker 3 (01:08:17):
Look fourteenth Street drive that they've scored, that they've scored
home unless it's ended in a kneel down at the game.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
That tells you're hot.

Speaker 3 (01:08:25):
That is Look, that's remarkable production of National Football League.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
You don't get that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
It tells you how good they're playing, how good the
young quarterback is playing.

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
It really does. Okay, talk about the Carlos, talk about quarterbacks.
Carlin Murray his ten point seven yards per rush tops
the league. He's a rushing leader with players with ten
or more attempts. So in this game, I gotta believe.
And there's so many intangibles you talk about, you know,
players and matchups as I mentioned early on, and the
fact that it's a car at Arizona. I just think

(01:08:55):
that top to bottom, the Cardinals are a better team.
I just think they have better personnel, are better team.
But this command, this team has got a lot of confidence,
and I think that goes a long way when you're
playing football with a young team. They got the confidence. Now,
two wins in a row and beating up on Cincinnati
on a Monday night game, a nationally televised game in Cincinnati,
that's gonna go a long way. May not today, but

(01:09:17):
I think eventually it's going to go a long way
for that team.

Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
Yeah, but you know, the currents are interesting squad because,
like quietly, Calla Murray has found this group and Jonathan
Gannon breathing all their confidence into him certainly has helped
him and it continue to help them. I kind of
like what they got going on. I'm gonna go with them.

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
Yeah, Okay. Now we've got the Patriots at the forty
nine ers. Both teams have a record of one and two,
but they're like night and day. They're just two different teams.
I would tell you right here and now the magic
has gone from the New England Patriots. And as long
as the season continues the way it's going, that loss
that the Bengals had opening Day to them looks even
worse down the stretch. It's the good thing that the

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Bengals are I'm playing in college because that would really
hurt them as far as postseason tournament play would be concerned.
But in the NFL it's a different animal. That loss
to them will be. It's just to be devastating when
the year is over. But Patriots lost last week twenty
four to three at the Jets. The forty nine has
lost in a heartbreaker really to the Rams at the
Rams last week twenty seven to twenty four, and let's

(01:10:21):
face it, the Patriots have one of the league's worst offenses.
They've got to try to establish the run game with Stevenson,
who's basically their ray of hope, and that's it. That's
it for them, It really is.

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
That is it for them. I'm worried about the Niners
being together, being connected.

Speaker 3 (01:10:35):
I don't know if you had a chance see the
video Kyle Shanahan having to kind of get on Brandon
Ayuk because he didn't comply with the dress code that
they had to practice. But it appears to be something
continued to go on with Brandon Ayuk within the squad.
I'm telling you, man, these contracts, when these guys are
not connected, it's hard to get your team to play
at a high level. And they're just not together and

(01:10:59):
coming on the heels of this Super Bowl loss, I
knew it was gonna be challenging. It just seems like
me Kyle's having a tough time getting them all on
the same page.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
Okay, then that brings up an interesting lie. I mean,
you got to catch an attitude because a I didn't
get my money. You know, you put the tag on
me like t Higgins in Cincinnati, And I'm saying to myself,
if I'm a general manager of another team, do I
want an attitude on my team? He may be a
great player. T Higgins could be a could be a
number one receiver, But do I want that problem or

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a potential problem on my team? I mean, don't they
understand that. Suck it up, play the game, do the
best you can, and everything usually works out. This Jamar
Chase thing, it's ugly in Cincinnati. It really was. Now
all of a sudden, he says he's okay, he's got
a new attitude. He wants to play this again. I
just think that coaches are personnel people, general managers. They

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take a good hard look at the entire person, not
just a skill set on the field.

Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
I mean they should, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
You want your own guys that are that are committed,
that are that are locked in to be there. It's
you know, look, it's a challenge. You don't understand that.
And I understand, like all the other stuff that go
goes with it, right, and you want to get paid,
you want you want to do your stuff. But it
just seems like, man, they just having a tough time.
These guys that are disgruntled, it's hard to bring them

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back into the fold.

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
No matter what happens.

Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
Even if they get their money, still has some lingering effects.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
It appears on the squad.

Speaker 5 (01:12:30):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
And the funny thing is is that when free agent
comes along, the free agency situation, and like a team
like Cincinnati and they didn't want to pay Jamar Chase.
Now I know eventually gonna pay him, I would think,
I think they almost have to pay them because they
don't like to do those deals during the season. That's
gonna hurt them maybe down the road because other players
they would say, I don't want to play there. You know,

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I don't like the way they treated Jamal, I like
the way they treated t Higgins. I don't want to
go to Cincinnati. So it's a it's a domino effect.
The players hurt, and they hurt the team because of
their attitude, but it also management they hurt themselves because
it's the possibility of other players may not want to
play there because of that. It's ugly all the way around.

Speaker 3 (01:13:10):
It is ugly all the way around, and it like
it hurts the team, hurts everybody involved. And so a
lot of times you try and have these disputes kind
of ironed out so everyone is on the same page
and you get everyone back to playing like they need
to play so your team can win.

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
Is there a team out there that you have seen
from a distance, perhaps even that has not had these
internal stripes that go public as far as contracts and
signings and ripping up contracts when they have two years
to go. I mean, what team do you know if
you heard of that really is fairly smooth sailing? I
can't think of any, can you?

Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
Maybe?

Speaker 6 (01:13:48):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:13:48):
I mean, it's always gonna be some hiccups and rows.
But what you like to do is you try and
get all this stuff. Look, there's the ebb and flow
of any negotiation, right, and normally deadlines.

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
Bring about negotiations.

Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
But when you have heart and fast rules in terms of,
hey man, we're going to negotiate to training camp, but
after that it is done. And if you stick to that, well,
then you get deals done before training camp and they
don't kind of start filtering and leanering into the season.
When you get into the season, there's so much stuff
going on. The last thing you need is someone complaining

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about the contract, someone trying to renegotiate the contract. In
those things, it just takes away from the focus of
the team.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
Yeah, he's Bucky Brooks. He's always focused. I'm Andy Fermanwell,
Fox Football Sunday. Ah, Fox Buck's ready. Now, this is
the super Bowl for Fox Football Sunday. It's bottom barrel betting.

Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
That's freaking next bottom barrel betting. Right around the corner.
He is Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Furman. We are a
Fox Football Sunday about eleven minutes before the top of
the hour. We're live for the tire rap dot Com studios. Hey,
we got a game to play, you know that, So
let's play it all right, here's the man that gets
it going, Shay Shade. What's going on? Give us the

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up there because we got the new season. Hey, we
got the new stats, the new stats.

Speaker 4 (01:15:03):
Yeah, welcome.

Speaker 6 (01:15:04):
This is week three of bottom barrel Betting, the game
where I tell Andy and Bucky bets from around the
world and they tell me who they think will win.
These bets are a little wacky, so we'll see how
you guys do. Last week, Andy, you took v L
unfortunately sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
To you, but give me I thought, do you have
me winning.

Speaker 6 (01:15:25):
But Bucky, you took the win. It was two to four.
You guys tied on one of them. When you guys
took something similar. I forgot which one it was to
the same team.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
I forget. I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:15:35):
Yeah, that leads the overall to four to seven.

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
But wait a minute, if it's week four, how could
it be four to seven. It's week three, so how
could it be four to seven.

Speaker 6 (01:15:47):
Because you got this is week three, so you got
to the first week.

Speaker 4 (01:15:52):
Oh you're doing total Oh I get it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:53):
Oh, yeah, to the second week. Okay, you're not doing
week by week. We're doing it. Sounds no, that's not
the electoral doing popular vote. Yeah, okay, it's okay, okay,
topy of it.

Speaker 6 (01:16:06):
Well, let's get right back into it. In the French
Handball Star League HBCNNTES is taking on monte Pellier today
at eight am Pacific Standard time. HBC is minus two
seventy five while monte Pellier is plus one ninety Champ,
Bucky take it away.

Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
You'd have to mention Champ just Bucky, Okay really.

Speaker 3 (01:16:31):
Second, But I like that. I like the Champ because
that's what they do. I'm gonna take the first team
because it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
Was so long.

Speaker 3 (01:16:38):
The names were so long, I can't remember. But the
first team that you h that you mentioned HBC, I'm
taking them.

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
I'm going to a month Polaire because that's in Vermont.
It's not the capital of Vermont, month Polaire.

Speaker 6 (01:16:50):
Sure, yeah, I think it is too. I like the
stand up, let's go with that in the World JLI League.
So this is a sport, Tili. Sorry, this is why,
this is why we have people like you in the world,
and this is why worst show that that takes responsibility

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and has people that know these types of things.

Speaker 1 (01:17:16):
So Andy, thank you for that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
I worked at a high ie front time once. Believe
it Daytona Beach. You played nine our guy there, Okay, yeah,
I think it's closed in those places.

Speaker 6 (01:17:29):
So anyways, it's it's a game you play basically in
a Walden space and you have this thing called a
wiker and you throw it at the wall and it's.

Speaker 1 (01:17:36):
Its high standball basically.

Speaker 6 (01:17:38):
Basically, So Arta is taking on Ron on Tuesday, October first,
with Arta at minus one ten and Ron at minus
one twe wis the match at? Where is the match at?

Speaker 7 (01:17:50):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:17:51):
You know that that makes the difference.

Speaker 6 (01:17:52):
Yeah, I didn't know this one. It's it's it's an
international league international.

Speaker 2 (01:17:59):
It goes wrong. It's like a common name, like my
next door neighbors name. His name is Ron, and everybody's Ron.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:18:04):
Arta?

Speaker 2 (01:18:05):
You know he probably is a big kate that he
wears Arta. He's probably a good player. I got Arta.

Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
All right, we give me the competitor. I'm gonna let
you have Arta and then go with about Ron.

Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
You'll be sorry. You'll be sorry, Buck, I'm telling you.

Speaker 6 (01:18:19):
Maybe I like that they just went with the first names.
There was no last name for me to even write down.
So our time Ron. It was in the European Darts Tour.
Josh Rock is taking on Rob Cross today in just
a few minutes. Actually, uh, Josh Rock is plus one
hundred while Rob Cross is minus one thirty five.

Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
Bucky, we'll start with you. You said Rob Cross is
one thirty five.

Speaker 6 (01:18:45):
Minus minus one thirty five and Josh Rock is plus
one hundred. Great names about the wafe.

Speaker 3 (01:18:50):
Oh you we gonna take we take minus one thirty five, guy,
Rob Cross Cross?

Speaker 4 (01:18:56):
Oh uh, I got the rock. Josh at the Rock,
I cut yourself the rock. You gotta be good. Got
the rock, of course, Thank you both.

Speaker 6 (01:19:05):
Thank the names have been great in today's it really has.

Speaker 1 (01:19:09):
Yeah, it's did a good job.

Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
Thank you, except for j LA. I mean that was
kind of that was yeah that I thought you were
playing with me.

Speaker 4 (01:19:16):
I thought you were playing with me.

Speaker 1 (01:19:17):
No, I was it.

Speaker 4 (01:19:17):
That was a top five mistake.

Speaker 2 (01:19:20):
Okay, it's a normal mistake, which is spelled j ai
a l I right.

Speaker 6 (01:19:24):
Yeah, I mean I looked at it jli I.

Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
Just ji phonetically, you will correct.

Speaker 1 (01:19:29):
How is it pronounced again?

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
High lie?

Speaker 1 (01:19:31):
High lie?

Speaker 4 (01:19:32):
High lie?

Speaker 6 (01:19:33):
All right, let's get this one quick in in the
D one Volleyball College League, with the five and eight
Sacred Heart taking on the two and eleven Iona University
today at ten am Pacific Standard time. Iona is plus
one fifty while Sacred Heart is minus two fifteen.

Speaker 4 (01:19:50):
Who's up?

Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
And I got the gails of Iona College? Well, Rick
Patino used to coach Bucky.

Speaker 1 (01:19:57):
Okay, say that's easy. Sacred Heart's a better team.

Speaker 4 (01:20:00):
Hi, swallow, don't coming in next? Greetings and welcome in.
My how the sands of time they do shift so quickly.
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two legends in our field. Here our guy Andy Furman,
he's there in Cincinnati. He's wishing, wanting, hoping, prague for

(01:20:42):
a Bengals win to savage salvage a a rough start
to the year at Andy Furman FSR. And my guy
Bucky Brooks working with the Jaguars hoping for the same.

Speaker 2 (01:20:52):
Me.

Speaker 4 (01:20:53):
I'm looking for functional football out of the Bears and
the final day of this long and glorious and I
say that with full tongue in cheek Chicago White Sox season,
it will finally go away and people will go back
to ignoring them as they have for so many years
in the past. Say all you can do is laugh
about it, fellas you know it to be true.

Speaker 2 (01:21:15):
How do you lose? On hundred and twenty one games.
I'm just thinking that.

Speaker 4 (01:21:18):
You want me to do a five hour I could
do it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
You could manage the team and lose on hundred times.

Speaker 4 (01:21:24):
I could be Ken Burns at this point with the
amount of stuff going on with that team.

Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
Amazing. One hundred and twenty one game that's that's unreal.
One hundred and twenty one games to lose.

Speaker 4 (01:21:35):
Yeah, it's it's a special kind of time for the
White Sox.

Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
But if you're gonna be big, it might as well
be the worst bed team you could be.

Speaker 4 (01:21:41):
Rae Andy. That has been my argument, Bucky. I mean,
that's where you go. If you're gonna go down the
road of one hundred plus losses and steam rolling to
this point, you might as well go set a record, right.

Speaker 2 (01:21:53):
And they stole the record from the Mets of sixty two.

Speaker 4 (01:21:56):
Geez, marvelous, Marv Thrownberry and all of those zeroes those
years ago. Yeah, No, it's it's well, I mean we
talk about it a lot. Well, we're talking about the
construction of NFL teams, as we'll do today as teams
try to get off the schneid, try to right some
wrongs from Week three. The overreaction chamber that we get
into here, fellas. But you know you talk about your

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scouting departments. You have a minor league, all right, it's
college football for the football side of thing, but for
the White Sox. And your best asset was Dylan Ceas.
Instead of holding him to the trade deadline, what'd you do?
Let's send you to San Diego now for a bucket
of balls? Okay? That did?

Speaker 2 (01:22:35):
You have to tell you a story, And this is
a true story. And I think he'll be upset if
I mentioned his name, my next door neighbor he was
working for. He was a scout for the White Sox,
the international scout for many a year. Doug Lohman was
his name, and his name. He still lives here. But
they let him go three years ago. So I'm happy
they lose because they did him wrong. He was a
good man, Doug, and he did a good job for

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him and they and Jerry Ryans, I'm sorry I let
you go. You come on, really, he's been there like
but thirty years or so, and he's been there with
the good times and not a bit time. But since
he left, they went down the cropper. And I'm glad
because they did him wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:23:10):
Well, they've had maybe two good time years in his
longest market I have been alive. Mark Ramsey, our technical producer,
always wearing his socks gear as well. But you know,
you have a minor league organization that has been run terribly.
My apologies and sadness for your friend there. So you're
not bringing guys up. You don't spend any money. They

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are one of three teams, along with the nomadic Oakland
Athletics and the Tampa Bay Rays, as three teams that
have never given a guy one hundred million dollar deal.
They tried the Atlanta Braves scenario in a short form
with Eloy Jimenez and Luis Robert Jr. And Joann Mancata.

(01:23:54):
Go look at their games played the last couple of years,
and then Eloy Jimanez they trade him off to Baltimore.
He got dfamed before the last game of the regular season.
So all of that to say, you've got an organizational disaster.
Many people wondering if they're going to move the team
to Nashville. You know all of those things. Hey do weell?

(01:24:15):
You got to keep threatening the municipality. You want more money.
Remember the last time they did that, it was supposed
to be cammed in yards and instead they got what
everybody hated at the time, what has been through ninety
seven name changes as we sit here at guaranteed Raad
Field because they wanted public money, so they made him

(01:24:36):
build a multipurpose facility, which meant it was supposed to
house concerts and whatever else. Guess what it never did
because the people at Soldier Field in the Park District
and everybody else ad we got a perfectly good sixty
thousand seat stadium over here where we can ruin the
field for the team that plays there. Already bears say
what I did there? It all circles back. But you

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know what, it's a beautiful Sunday fellas. We've got one
game in the book because of Week four already the
Dallas Cowboys get a win. But what do they call it?
The pyrrhic victory? As you lose both Lawrence and Micah
Parsons indefinitely, and now it all becomes and we won't
get to see it yet. But Dak Prescott, you know,

(01:25:18):
for all the pressure that was on him before he
signed the deal, now you lose the only two guys
that were functional on your defense to this point, and
it becomes that much bigger, a glaring issue while you
eke out a win against the New York Football Giants,
a team that most people have already fired Dable bench
Daniel Jones and have reset them or relegated them like

(01:25:39):
they're an EPL team.

Speaker 2 (01:25:41):
You know, can I say one thing? I think Bucky
would really have an answer for me on this. I
hear media people talk all the time, Trevor Lawrence isn't
worth this, dak press because you know, the quarterbacks maybe
I'm way off paid. They're not getting paid for their
skill set of what they're worth. They're getting paid for
what the market.

Speaker 4 (01:26:00):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
You're absolutely right, and the media people don't see to
understand that, and defense certainly don't understand that. Yeah, certainly
Daniel Jones was not worth forty million dollars, I promise you.
But that's the going rate of what it costs. Certainly
a car that you may purchase may not be worth that,
but it's the going rate of that car in that model.
That's just the way it is.

Speaker 1 (01:26:20):
That is the way it is.

Speaker 3 (01:26:21):
But what happens is internally in the locker room, right,
So no one is supposed to count everybody another person's money.
But when you're the Giants and you're in the locker
room and everyone on the team knows that Saquon Barkley
is the best player, and Saquon Barkley is like throwing
tantrums trying to get his money, and then they hand

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forty million dollars to the quarterback who everyone knows is
depending upon the play of the running back, it creates
discord downstairs and the Giants de notre like, oh, no,
it's not that it's everyone understands is Daniels team.

Speaker 1 (01:26:54):
No, it was Saquan's team.

Speaker 3 (01:26:56):
And when you remove that, other players begin snickering and
talking like, man, they done that. Gonna pays the best player,
he can't get his money. What does that mean for
me when it's time for me to come up. The
other part of it is when you pay forty million dollars,
what happens is expectations go up, and when you're paying
great for just good, then it becomes a problem because

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when you're saying, oh, man, we gotta give him forty
million dollars, but we also need to get a high
price wide receiver, a high price tied end. We need
a high price left tackle. We need this for him
to play well. At some point you begin to say, well,
why we ban him so much if he needs all
that help.

Speaker 1 (01:27:35):
That's that's where the rub comes because we happen from
doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:40):
But if the Ravens won their Super Bowl when Joe
Flackel backed up the the brings truck and cut all
that money and there was no money left for anybody else,
and the Ravens cut it hurting after that.

Speaker 4 (01:27:50):
I mean, you make your choices, right, I mean, and
you decide like he played out a bet on himself
scenario and it went the as well as it possibly could, right.
I Mean, that's the that's the equivalent of the guy
going down to the crossroads with his guitar saying, hey,
make me a star, Mephistopheles, I need a little bit
of help here. I mean, that's what Joe Flacco had

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one of the most historic runs ever. You can look
over at Eli Manning. He had two playoff runs that
have set him up for life, and that some of
the surname didn't hurt. But you go down the road,
you know, you have those scenarios, but yeah, it has
to go back, you know, not to make it all
about me, but I will, I mean go back to
the Bears like that was the beginning of the free
agency world. When the Bears won the Super Bowl, All right,

(01:28:34):
Buddy Ryan and did go battling. Wilbur Marshall to me
was the best linebacker they had. And I'll say that
for tell Blue in the face. He was the guy. Yeah,
and Briggs was better than her lacker. But the fact
of the matter is Wilbur Marshall leaves for Washington. That
heart of the defense is never the same again, right,

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you start seeing that playing a bigger role as well.
Guys play up, get their and they're told, well, you're
part of a unit. You fit as one of eleven.
Like you know, you're not splitting the money equally swap
out right.

Speaker 1 (01:29:11):
It does impact that. And so you got to pick
and choose.

Speaker 3 (01:29:13):
And when you pick the quarterback and the quarterback is
just a guy, right, it just impacts everything because the cash,
the cash that goes to one player and everyone knows
he needs so much help and he can't do it
on his own.

Speaker 1 (01:29:30):
It just changes everything.

Speaker 3 (01:29:32):
Not only does it upset the applecart with the salary cap,
it changes the dynamic in the locker room, right because
people are saying, this dude is so overpaid, we're having
to do all of this other stuff like it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:43):
It just makes it hard.

Speaker 3 (01:29:44):
But because everyone is scared to walk away from average,
we just don't want.

Speaker 4 (01:29:49):
To walk.

Speaker 3 (01:29:51):
Yeah, you don't want to walk away from average, So
you end up talking yourself into paying for average when
you know he's only average.

Speaker 2 (01:30:00):
But look how lucky the forty one his guy with
Brock Party. He's making a similar to fifty thousand, nine
hundred fifty four maybe, but he's gonna hit it. He'll
hit it next year.

Speaker 1 (01:30:09):
He's gonna hit it.

Speaker 3 (01:30:09):
But see, here's the thing, though, I think brock Purdy
is good though like he somehow slipped through the cracks.

Speaker 1 (01:30:16):
He didn't show what he's shown.

Speaker 3 (01:30:17):
He's one of the rare players that I think is
a much better college, much better pro player than collegiate player.

Speaker 1 (01:30:22):
Brock Purdy is good.

Speaker 3 (01:30:23):
But yeah, it's going to change because guess what when
they pay him, and it's happening this offseason, when they
pay him fifty to fifty five million dollars, you're gonna
have to say goodbye to Kyle you Check, you have
to say goodbye to Deebo Sam, You're gonna have to say, hey, Kiitto,
we love you, but we may need to take a
little pay cut. You have to do that, And how
is that going to change the dynamic in the locker room?

Speaker 4 (01:30:44):
But that's the thing right as you flow through, and
it's got nothing to do about the color of shorts,
at least for the moment here, which is a whole
other little fun center.

Speaker 1 (01:30:52):
O Paldy.

Speaker 3 (01:30:53):
Yeah dude, you got, Paddy, Yeah you got.

Speaker 1 (01:30:58):
You're still Patty and you still man paid.

Speaker 4 (01:31:01):
Now the fact that Juwan Jennings came out now played
you and you look like a jag. Hey you got paid,
You got paid. But you see the other guys in
that offense can go in and step into spots, right. So,
but but they're an organization. Andy to the larger point, man, Bucky,
I mean, we do this all the time. You and
I've been talking about this for as long as we've

(01:31:22):
been doing shows together. What do you got eight to
ten franchises that you put in one bucket and everybody
else is over here fighting to figure out what they're
going to adopt of what works, and then they don't
get out of their own way. Read Jerry Jones and
so many others right. So San Francisco is one of
those things where it worked, where you had a lot
of the pieces in place, and it takes nothing away

(01:31:44):
from brock perty I think he's been fantastic, right, So
to dismiss him is at your own peril. But it
goes to I heard you guys as I was driving in,
talking about college starts and being a professional and coming
in and recognizing what you can add versus the weight
of the world being put on your shoulders. For Rock Birdy,
he was like, all right, next guy up. Expectations are zero. Right,

(01:32:06):
he's mister irrelevant. He's on a good team. So in theory,
this should kind of work. And then you know they hit,
you know, flew over their skis and you've had this
ridiculous run that he has. But most organizations doesn't work.
I mean, look at the Bears. They went and spent
all sorts of money on outside guys and everything else.
Keenan Allen will be back today. They forgot about one

(01:32:27):
very important thing, the five guys that have to keep
Caleb Williams up right, and you hired the wrong damn coordinator.

Speaker 2 (01:32:33):
I'll give you another team.

Speaker 4 (01:32:34):
Let's call it speed Option. At the one anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:32:37):
But the Tennessee Titans spent tons of money in the
offseason free agency. Well what do they do? So it's
all about development. I think that's more important than spending
money on free agency. They spent time. I don't think
any teams spent more money than the Titans of free agency.

Speaker 4 (01:32:50):
Well, I think you know they're about what four plays
away back?

Speaker 1 (01:32:54):
Yeah, the great quarterback is issued out.

Speaker 4 (01:32:56):
Because he's completed sixty eight percent of his passes, he's
looked really good in great stretches, and then he makes
him play you'd expect from a seven year old.

Speaker 1 (01:33:04):
Yeah. The blunders, I mean the blunders are bad, man.

Speaker 4 (01:33:08):
Right, They're not regular interceptions pushing the ball downfield. These
are game changing, back and breaking What the hell are
you doing? Man?

Speaker 1 (01:33:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:33:16):
But throw buckis Jacksonville Jaguars in there too. They spent
a ton of free agency as well in the offseason.

Speaker 1 (01:33:22):
Yeah, I mean they did.

Speaker 3 (01:33:24):
And I'll be the first to tell you can't build
your team primarily through free agents. And the reason why
you can't build it through free agency is because you
don't know. You don't know where these guys are coming
from in terms of like you just don't know all
the background, and so you're bringing in guys that you're
paying a ton of money. You want them to be
leaders and all of that, but there's no direct connectivity.

Speaker 4 (01:33:44):
But you got to draft and development there.

Speaker 3 (01:33:47):
Yeah, I mean that's the best way, that's the most
economical way to be able to do it. You draft
and you develop your own, and then you sign your
own and you bring in a couple of guys on
the side to kind of, I said, supplement what they're doing.

Speaker 1 (01:34:01):
But it shouldn't be you're building your team through free agency.
It doesn't work. It's not sustainable.

Speaker 4 (01:34:06):
No, you might get a one year bounce, but uh,
you know, the the devil comes. It comes due in
short order, no question about it. At Andy Furman FSR
on Twitter at Bucky Brooks, read him NFL dot com.
See all of Andy's work at his Twitter account x
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want to shout, yell and tell me how terrible I am.

(01:34:27):
I wear it because you know my team stinks, So
let out your vitriol on me. Here you go. If
they might be that vessel for you.

Speaker 2 (01:34:35):
Let's combine the record Jacksonville's what owen three one two
where they Bengals.

Speaker 4 (01:34:40):
Own three and three and think about a lot of
losing and the last two weeks, you know, with a
little bit of I don't know, foresight planning, not getting
too cute Jackson Smith and jigm Warn does in the offseason,
he didn't realize he had a hot mic when the

(01:35:01):
Bears hired Waldron. Oh, oh, good luck to them, he
said it. Then again, Bucky Speed option at the one
with DeAndre Swift who wants to be Barry Sanders but
isn't run North South Man run North Side.

Speaker 2 (01:35:20):
Cared they lost to a team that had a college offense,
the Washington Commanders.

Speaker 4 (01:35:25):
Oh yeah, the high school, no question. Well, you know,
you go out of your way to make bulletin board material.
It's good for us in the business though, So thanks guys.
Keep chirping away. It's Fox Football Sunday, Fox Sports. Rady.
We got a number of games to get through, and
Kevin O'Connell had some comments. We've been talking a lot
about quarterbacks. It's one of my favorite quotes of the week.

(01:35:45):
We used it a little bit on Friday. Jason Smith
and I we'll bring it back here to frame the
conversation of the day. We'll do that and we'll do
it next here. I'm Fox. Hey, welcome back in. It's
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up to me, and I'd like your thoughts on this

(01:36:29):
based on your analysis of the teams that you gave
a little bit earlier. We'll see if we can cycle
it back. Friend reached out saying, I've got Jalen Hurts right.
We know all the injuries couple of offensive linemen to
wide receivers on the road at Tampa or justin fields
on the road at Indianapolis. I'll inform it to say

(01:36:52):
that the over unders on their rushing yards are but
a two yard difference.

Speaker 2 (01:37:00):
And fields at Indy had a choice. Justin Fields at Indy.
Tampa is dangerous.

Speaker 4 (01:37:05):
And then see what they did last.

Speaker 1 (01:37:06):
Week Tampa, Tampa. Tampa has more.

Speaker 3 (01:37:09):
Yeah, there, they are a more dangerous team when it
comes to some of that stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:37:13):
But see, I wonder if I it's not the Hey,
the Pittsburgh defense can get after Richardson forced a turnover
or to and give Justin Fields a short field. No
Jalen Warren for the Steelers, by the way, So perhaps
fields in Arthur Smith's planning a little more involved in
the run game.

Speaker 2 (01:37:29):
Yeah, I like, I like fields. I think I think
it's an easy decision.

Speaker 1 (01:37:33):
Over here too.

Speaker 2 (01:37:33):
Plus Jalen Hurts has turned the ball over in his
last eight games, every game, so he's a turnover machine too.
He's like he's got the Trevor Lawrence disease.

Speaker 4 (01:37:43):
Wow, he's just coming with a baseball bat after you
here today, Bucky.

Speaker 2 (01:37:47):
I'm sorry, and that throwing. North Carolina's lost to Duke
too yesterday.

Speaker 1 (01:37:53):
Wow, Trevor. Trevor hasn't done it yet. In North Carolina
losses is its own.

Speaker 4 (01:37:58):
That's been that's a whole other thing, especially, you know,
because it looked like it was a great rebound from
the week before they had them. Yeah yeah, and you
let them off the hook like Dennis green Yield so
many years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:38:11):
Exactly didn't finish, didn't finish the game.

Speaker 4 (01:38:14):
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Sports Weekends, Fox Football Sunday. All right before we get
into the games. One quick note, Kevin O'Connell was on
the I think it was the Rich Eisen Show earlier
this week talking about quarterback play quote. I just think
as a whole, it's not another emphasis put on the
organization's role in the development of the position, meaning that
I believe that organizations fail young quarterbacks before young quarterbacks

(01:39:19):
fail organizations, unquote. And to me, I mean it speaks
to a lot of I think what the three of
us have been talking about forever. I've always agreed with
the Tom Brady philosophy that he's espoused in his post
playing career of Hey, if the young guy's not ready,
the young guys are getting not ready. I understand we
want to make sure we get every drop of blood

(01:39:42):
out of them during those rookie deals. But if they're
not ready to play the NFL game, you're just chasing
a bad proposition, right and setting up for failure because
then you start forcing issues and trying to create something
that may maybe there in a year but takes some learning.
You know, the Bryce Young scenario down in Carolina comes

(01:40:04):
to mind immediately. But Bucky, I mean I think that
you know, the incubator. Sometimes you got to let things,
you know, take their time and work versus Hey, you
were a top ten pick and we put you on
all the marketing materials, so get in the game.

Speaker 3 (01:40:19):
Yeah, I mean there's something to be said for that
when you talk about organization most stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:40:25):
Kevin O'Connell's right. Obviously, he's a former quarterback. He played
in the National Football League.

Speaker 3 (01:40:29):
He's seen it firsthand, and I think that has certainly
impacted the way that he has developed quarterbacks. But it
takes the stability of everyone around the quarterback to ensure
that the quarterback can play at his best. And that
stability is not only the personnel around them, the playmakers,
the pass protection, the blockers in front of him, what
you have around him that can make the game easy,

(01:40:49):
the play caller and the system being the same for
years on end, so the guy doesn't have to learn
a new language every year.

Speaker 1 (01:40:56):
He steps into the facility.

Speaker 3 (01:40:59):
And then it's having the trust that we're going to
let him work through.

Speaker 1 (01:41:03):
Some of those mistakes.

Speaker 3 (01:41:04):
Regardless of the people in the stands that are saying
after a game or two, they can fully assess the
quarterback and say it, we're gonna stick with them, and
we're gonna be fine, and your owner has to be
okay with the quarterback developmental plan. That may take a
year or two, and so it may impact your record
right away, but you got to get through that part
to get to the good side.

Speaker 1 (01:41:23):
And it takes thirty games to fully evaluate a quarterback.
That's two years.

Speaker 3 (01:41:28):
Can you live through it for two years before making
a determination. Most people don't have the patients to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:41:33):
But you know what that there are two teams that
are doing it right now. The Atlanta Falcons obtained Kirk
Cousins to let Michael Pennock sit, and then we're going
to Patriots. You have to Drake May and it was
not ready to got Jacobe Prissett. So they realized they
could to suck it out. That may not win, they
may not make playoffs, but this is what they're gonna
do to kind of ease their way in. And that's
the way it used to be. That's the way it
used to be. Look at the Green Bay package. What

(01:41:55):
they've done for years, their quarterbacks waiting on the sidelines.
You named the quarterback, Aaron Rodgers, waited, Brett fah Away,
they all waited. That's what they did. But no longer
because they coming with the hype you win the Heisman
Trophy and next thing, you know, said, well, how can
you not play the guy he won the Heisman Trophy?

Speaker 4 (01:42:10):
As the way it is, See, I'm gonna take the
victory lap on the Packers when they drafted Jordan Love
back up in action, a little surprising to me. I
know it's a division game, but you got the wins
with Malik Willis. I would have thought you'd leave him
through the bye week. But hey, we'll see Jordan Love
a little bit later on today. I'll take that w
the pendix thing. He kind of fell in their lap,
but I give him credit for just saying, all right,

(01:42:31):
if this was the best player, we'll look to the
long term as well, especially with Captain Kirk not really
knowing what his legs were gonna be and mobility and
all those fun things. And we've certainly it's been a
mixed bag for him through three weeks. Right right to
your point, Andy, Yeah, I mean we do actually have
this in New England. Let's face so, Jacobe Brisett, Bersett's
a human shield right now, but I'll tell you, I

(01:42:52):
mean that's what he's being used as more than anything. Hey,
do we have an offensive line they can protect Drake
may No, Okay, he can't play, and then they still
put him in that game. That was malfeasance. Man, that
was ridiculous. We're watching you guys get beaten around, like
I don't care. Put the punter out there and let
him take some snaps. He'll be starting before the end

(01:43:12):
of the season.

Speaker 2 (01:43:13):
You think Drake Maye, well, he probably will have to
because Jacobe pricillall be in the hospitalspal.

Speaker 1 (01:43:20):
He'll have to play.

Speaker 3 (01:43:20):
But even look, it even goes beyond that, like, because
then my question, if I'm a Tennessee Titans fan, my
number one question when I show up to the stadium
today is how can Elik Willis look one way for
the Green Bay Pass and another way for us. Malik
Willis has been in Green Bay for a little over
a month and looks like a completely different player than
the player that we saw for.

Speaker 1 (01:43:41):
The Tennessee Titans.

Speaker 3 (01:43:43):
Coaching matters, and and and and when they talk about
organizational structure, what Kevin O'Connor is talking about, it matters.
The Packers have a fundamental belief that they know how
to develop the quarterback. I can't tell you what goes
on in the building since I've departed, But there's something
that goes on when they right out a quarterback. More
times than not, it's gonna work. Jordan Love, Aaron Rodgers

(01:44:05):
Willis is certainly working. There's something to it. Some guys
understand how to do it. Some organizations know how to
do it, know how to support a quarterback.

Speaker 2 (01:44:13):
That's that's why we said earlier today that Matt Lafleur
and Kevin O'Connell should be candidates as of today as
coach of the year in the National Football League. What
they've done with their teams.

Speaker 4 (01:44:21):
Really, there's no question about it. The other guy that
we'll get to in a bit, Bucky, I think you
next hour as well, when when's Brian floor is going
to get another shot, because certainly through three weeks this season,
he's saying I'm as good as any of y'all. So
we'll see how that flows. But you know what, before
we get into our games, why don't we go to
our guy, Kevin Wyre at the news desk. He's got

(01:44:44):
all the latest on the injury updates for Week four
of the NFL. What's up? Yeah, Well, just a few
hours away from kickoff, and Adam Schefter Ian Rappaport with
several updates overnight and into the morning hours after, with
the last couple saying Saints wide receiver Chris Olave gonna
test his hamstring injury in pregame warmups. However, the team
is optimistic or actually confident was the exact quote he used.

(01:45:06):
He will play today against the Falcons. Schefter also saying
that Justin Herbert has suffered no setbacks and is preparing
to play for Los Angeles today in their huge divisional
matchup against the Kansas City Chiefs, and Rappaport with several
updates with Sean White, he's been doing a food poisoning
but has made a rapid recovery and is expected to

(01:45:29):
play today. Forty nine Ers wide receiver Deebo Samuel and
left tackle Trent Williams are both likely to play. Williams
being active would hinge on a pregame workout, but there
is optimism he will be able to go. Texan's running
back Joe Mixon gonna be a game time decision. He's
been working hard to battle back from that ankle injury

(01:45:50):
and he hasn't given up trying, but he's gonna test
it out and see if he can go. Bears wide
receiver Keenan Allen has missed the last couple of games
with a heel injury. He's questionable but is expected to
play today, and Saints running back Alvin Kamara expected to
play as well food New Orleans, in addition to Chris

(01:46:11):
o'lave and Jaguars wide receiver Gabe Davis questionable with a
shoulder injury but should be able to good to go
today for Jacksonville. And in the college ranks, last night,
a couple of upsets in the top ten, both at
the hands of Wildcats Kentucky over number six Ole miss
twenty to seventeen, while Arizona takes down number ten Utah

(01:46:31):
twenty three to ten in Salt Lake City. At the
top of the rankings, the big matchup of the day
in Tuscaloosa, Number two Georgia number four Alabama. The Crimson
tied up twenty eight nothing at one point, but the
Bulldogs came coming back and they got to within one
score with forty three seconds to go, and zab and

(01:46:52):
Brown picking off Carson Beck in the end zone to
seal the win for the Crimson tied forty one to
thirty four, part of three interceptions back through on the evening,
Number one Texas gets their first win as a member
of the SEC and conference play, beating Mississippi State thirty
five to thirteen. Is arch manning a couple of touchdown
passes three hundred and twenty four passing yards. Number three

(01:47:13):
Ohio State thirty eight seven over Michigan State, Number eight.
Oregon pounds UCLA thirty four to thirteen, and in a
matchup of ranked teams of the Big Ten, number nine
Penn State over number nineteen Illinois twenty one seven, and
number twelve Michigan gets by Minnesota twenty seven to twenty four,
thirteenth rank USC bouncing back from their lost in Michigan
last week to beat Wisconsin on their home field thirty

(01:47:34):
eight twenty one. Back to you guys, thanks so much, Kevin.
Kevin wired at the desk Force Today it's Fox Football
Sunday here live from the tire Rack dot Com Fox
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Bucky Brooks. Guys, we got a couple of games again you,
let's start them Monday night.

Speaker 2 (01:47:52):
If I may, Hello, if I may, If I'm sorry,
I'm so sorry, but you made something and it kind
of makes me crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:47:57):
Here.

Speaker 2 (01:47:58):
You said, when is Brian Flor's getting goot as chance
as a head coach? And I know he's been great
as defensive coordinator of Minnesota, But this is the peed
of principal that doesn't necessarily work in flocks such studio.
Some people are just good in what they do and
should stay in that space. Really, and I think Brian
Flores is a defensive minded guy. You make him a

(01:48:18):
head coach. I don't know if they could get it done.
I mean, I just don't think that people should be
given that opportunity to move up the ladder because they've
done well in one position, that doesn't mean they're going
to do well in another. If you're a teacher, does
not mean you're going to be a good principal. Right, See,
you're a good teacher, periods all.

Speaker 4 (01:48:35):
We've got plenty of those, there's no question. And you
know we can go all the way through the ads
and the mL A history and everything else. I wasn't
saying it as a hey, hire this man, No there's
certainly a lot of questions that need to be asked
from his last stop. Not to mention, he sued the league.
So I mean it was more just a hey, here's
a one point. Just kind of raised my hand as

(01:48:55):
to the job that Brian Flores has done, because Kevin
O'Connell's getting a lot of love with Sam Darnold should
but that defense is just wreaking havoc across the first
three weeks of the year. That's all I was trying
to say, go ahead, bud it.

Speaker 3 (01:49:06):
Well, no, and I'm gonna say this though, because if
we're gonna do that, then Bean Johnson shouldn't get loved
because he's a good offensive coordinator doesn't mean he's gonna
get or whatever. It means that none of these hot
coaching candidates that we're talking about, they shouldn't get love
based on what they do for a particular unit, Like
if we're gonna take it that away, like who knows
what someone's going to be as a head coach, because
it's a different job completely than the job that everyone

(01:49:29):
was doing.

Speaker 1 (01:49:29):
Well.

Speaker 4 (01:49:29):
Not to mention you, you get multiple bites of the apple.
Should Bill Belichick have never coached again? Because of the
failures in Cleveland. Look what he did there? Score one
for the kid. I would throw my phone down, but
it would success.

Speaker 2 (01:49:46):
It was a defensive coordinator with the Giants too, I think.

Speaker 4 (01:49:48):
Right, But I mean he won super bowls there. That's
how he gets the jobs. Oh sure, you know, head
man whatever. And for Flores, Look, we have a lot
of questions of what went on in Miami. There's no
question about it, right, buck It's it's not open and
shut there at all. Not to mention the litigation that
flowed out of it. But you know, we cycle coaches

(01:50:09):
all the time, and usually when you dominate on one
side of the ball, people get desperate and say, hey
we can get back in go you get another look,
right anyway, back to the game, all right, Seahawks and Lias,
all right, Monday night football. Here as we get it going.
Seattle Detroit. Seattle fourth best defense in the game, fourteen
point three points a lap per game. Detroit also top ten,

(01:50:32):
giving up seventeen point seven their offense. Not yet there,
Ben Johnson, the aforementioned Ben Johnson, that bucket just brought up.
Quote just a matter of time before we break through,
right now, scoring twenty point seven points per game, and
they've been dreadful in red zone situations thus far, but
they are averaging four hundred yards per game. Rag now
is out. Kenneth Walker's supposed to return for Seattle. As

(01:50:55):
we look at the spread for this one three and
a half, Detroit favored at home four five and a half.
When this line opened back in the day, guys, it
was a full six point advantage for Detroit. Maybe some
questions with the offense showing in that point spread.

Speaker 2 (01:51:10):
Andy, what do you got, Well, this is quite easy
because Seattle really has a come against any real tough
opponents here who they played Denver, New England in Miami
right now, and you've got Detroit.

Speaker 4 (01:51:19):
Detroit's de trup.

Speaker 2 (01:51:20):
As long as Jared Goff doesn't turn the ball over,
they have a tremendous offense, one of the best offenses
in the league. They got the best running duo in
the football, David Montgomery and Jamalk Gibbs. So they give
up the ball to those guys of mont Ross Saint Brown.
I mean, this team should win, and I think they
should win up by a heck of a lot, but
I think they should win this game.

Speaker 4 (01:51:37):
I like Detroit a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:51:40):
Detroit is good. I'm gonna go with Detroit. I think
the best team. I think they will eventually be the
best team in the.

Speaker 4 (01:51:44):
NFC eventually that it shakes out. I mean, we've got
questions with so many others talked about even just doing
a fantasy potential benching of Jalen Hurts earlier, which would
have been unthinkable to start the season. But here we are,
David Montgomery. Can he get carried another ten yards like
he's a ballerina in the middle of a big production number.
That's what we got last week. All right, let's get

(01:52:05):
the other Monday game in while we're at it, Bill
said Ravens, all right, well, we actually I get the
long order, so I juiced it up to a bigger
matchup Sunday Night Football forty six and a half the
total Ravens two and a half point favorites. At home,
Buffalo getting it going with the run pass of Josh
Allen taking care of business. Shaquille Shakira has been fantastic.

(01:52:27):
Fourteen targets, fourteen catches. James Cook out of the backfield
has been fantastic as well. For Baltimore. Derrick Henry makes
the things run as long as well as Lamar Jackson
has over two hundred and fifty yards on the ground
as well. Buffalo missing those linebackers, could that be the difference?
Bucky Brooks.

Speaker 3 (01:52:47):
Man, Buffalo looks so great on Monday that is easy
to fall in love with them and say that they're
going to be They're gonna be ready to roll through Baltimore.
I think Baltimore shows up in this one. Baltimore found
themselves against the Cowboys, a lot of Derrick Henry, a
lot of Lamar Jackson. I look for more of the
same against the Buffalo Bill As you're right, those linebackers
aren't there. It makes a huge difference against the team
that wants to run it right down your throat.

Speaker 4 (01:53:09):
This game is all about the run.

Speaker 2 (01:53:11):
Baltimore leaves the NFL along with just almost two point
eight yards per rush, so that Bills need to unlock
a pissinga And can they do that without throwing the
ball away?

Speaker 4 (01:53:18):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:53:19):
Derek Henry right now against the Bill, He's got like
almost like two hundred and eighty yards in his first
three games with the Ravens. He's blossoming into the offense
right now. I think the Ravens come alive. The Ravens
win this game, much to.

Speaker 4 (01:53:30):
The chagrin of fantasy owners. Last week, the only time
you heard anybody mentioned Isaiah Likely or Mark Andrews was
because of their blocking acumen. I expect more of the
same today, with more praise from Harbaugh about what they
did to help seal things for the run game. In
other words, find yourself other fantasy tight ends this week
against the Bills. He's Andy Ferman, that's Bucky Brooks out

(01:53:52):
my car. We got a couple more games to go
as we get ready for Week four. Here on a
beautiful Fox Football Sunday. Hey, welcome back. It's Fox Football Sunday,
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(01:54:14):
morning coffee. Maybe you hit the snooze button and the
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At Andy furmoan FSR at Bucky Brooks at Swollen doobre.
You can find us in the Twitter verse. Follows. We've
got a couple of games to get to, so let's
finish off the slate, Brown said Raiders. Yay, no Adams,

(01:54:34):
no Crosby. On the Raiders side of things, after a
disappointing performance a week ago, but kind of expected Zamir
White barely falling forward just over three yards of carry.
Bowers is a stud though d eighteen catches on his
twenty one targets for nearly two hundred yards. For the
Cleveland Browns, You've got a running back averaging nearly five

(01:54:55):
yards per carry. It doesn't matter because your quarterback play
is terrible. A couple of your offensive linemen are out,
both Wills and Conklin and Joku gonna miss it. And
then Garrett popped up with a foot injury. His status
for later today as of yet on known Raiders, a
narrow two point favorite at home thirty seven is the

(01:55:15):
total Bucky Brooks, would you watch this game or punt.

Speaker 3 (01:55:20):
Who It'd be a hard one. I would need to
watch this one while I'm eating something.

Speaker 4 (01:55:25):
Oh, okay, you gotta have multitasking. I need I need
to multita down.

Speaker 3 (01:55:30):
Yeah I will I would do something else, like maybe
there'd be a time to like do some some nail
clipping or something like that, watch the game something like that.
But I'm gonna say the Browns are the lesser two evils.
Give me them, because if it ultimately comes down to
quarterback play, like I still would take Deshaun Watson over
Goner Minshew and Aiight m O'Connell.

Speaker 1 (01:55:52):
So just give me the Browns in this one.

Speaker 2 (01:55:54):
No, no, Bucky, no back off.

Speaker 7 (01:55:55):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:55:56):
Because the Browns keep then I could keep the Deshaun
Watson upright.

Speaker 4 (01:55:59):
They can't.

Speaker 2 (01:56:00):
Their offensive line can't protect the Shawn Watson really, and
their offense is terrible until that offense could do something
I'm going against them every single week is the Raiders.
The Raiders win this game. And as my good friend
and your good friend Mike North used to say, if
this game was in my backyard, I closed the drape.

Speaker 4 (01:56:16):
Well, Deshaun Watson came out and said, hey, I'm not
a runner, Like, well, you're gonna have to either that
or you gotta do that Peyton Manning little turtle thing
that he used to do. Oop, there's the pressure down
I go. You know those toys we had his kids
where you'd press the button on the bottom and the
legs would collapse on the donkey or whatever. That's kind
of what Peyton mastered all those years. Deshaun Watson, if

(01:56:37):
he doesn't want to run, that's exactly what he's gonna
need to do. By the way, the DeVante Adams story
right and Week to Week Hamstring plus the Raiders through
schefter making it known. Hey, we had people calling I
don't know, I raised an eyebro. I got the rock's
eyebrow over here.

Speaker 3 (01:56:54):
Yeah, sounds kind of funny, right, sounds sounds kind of fishy,
like all of a sudden those things.

Speaker 1 (01:56:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:57:00):
Man, But like I'll say this from watching last year's
Next Flicks show Receiver, he's a lot, Yeah, a lot
to deal with. He doesn't seem like he's very happy.
It takes a lot to keep him happy. I don't
know how long you can sustain that relationship. If you're
the Raiders, Yeah, I think you try and move him
at the deadline and see if you can get some
of these young guys to play. I don't know if
he moves to needle enough for your offense to make

(01:57:21):
a difference. If I could I'll move on from him.

Speaker 4 (01:57:23):
I think Smith and my show in the evenings here
seven to eleven Pacific Monday through Friday was the only
show he didn't come on to promote that or tell
his side of the mois Me tail. I'm still waiting
for that phone call. But we had Drew Brees on
holds from all those years ago. It's a long story,
inside joke, all right. Next, Chief said Chargers, we go

(01:57:44):
a little fun one for you. Justin Herbert Hey, he
had no setbacks during the week he left Chris Jones
trying to chase him down and tackling anyway. You've got
the Kansas City Chiefs road favorites all the way up
to a full touchdown, gentlemen, seven point spread forty is
the total Slater and Alt and Slater's not gonna be

(01:58:05):
there all It's gonna give it a go. But he's
got a knee injury. Uh, you got no Joey Bosa.
You've already got so many players. The walking wound, and
I thought they did that sage brush things and xcize
those demons. Not quite so fast, Chiefs three and Oh
it ain't perfect, but they're still putting up twenty five
points per game, Andy, what say you?

Speaker 2 (01:58:23):
They find the way to win. That's the Kansas City
Chiefs has them. They know they're gonna win at the conference.
And you know what, I love the development of Rushie Rice.
He's the guy. I mean, he's gonna have a big
game today. He will.

Speaker 3 (01:58:34):
Hmm yeah, giving the Chiefs because I just worry about
the Chargers.

Speaker 1 (01:58:39):
No Derwin James not being into building.

Speaker 4 (01:58:41):
Yeah, the suspension from the big hit, big hit. Take
those shots so many?

Speaker 1 (01:58:48):
Wow, he has so many in his bag.

Speaker 4 (01:58:49):
It's funny how that works. Right, all of a sudden,
it's like, hey, wait a minute, he already had his warnings.
All right, we got one last game. Let's get to it, really, fright,
that's all it deserves everybody. Uh No, Miami at one
point favorite Snoop Hundley will be under center. We talked
Will Levis a little bit earlier in development. No Armstead
on the offensive line, Fuller, two guys gonna miss games

(01:59:10):
with concussions. We've talked about two bunch Levis again, sixty
eight percent completion rate, he's absorbed fifteen sacks again, double
Monday barrel action. We just hope the other games better.
But Andy make a pick.

Speaker 2 (01:59:23):
I'm taking the Dolphins. That's how bad the Titans are.

Speaker 1 (01:59:26):
Ooh, I'm taking the Titans.

Speaker 4 (01:59:28):
There you go, Will Levis to get one as you go.
They're getting up. Miami giving up twenty four points per game,
eight Chan averaging three point five yards per carry, thus
far a better receiver out of the backfield than Tyreek Hill.
Other than that eighty yard touchdown sprint has been invisible.
He's Andy Ferman, that's Bucky Brooks. Thanks for being with us.

(01:59:48):
Fox Football Sunday continues on Fox Sports Radio. Oh yeah,
let's get it on. Another full day of activity all
across the sporting universe, getting ready for some action on
the pitch in the English Premier League WNBA playoffs later,
of course, week four of your National Football League season,
and for most teams, the final day of the Major

(02:00:09):
League Baseball regular season. We addressed it a little bit
last hour, but yes, for me and my beloved Chicago
White Sox, congratulations on a job done. Forty one twenty
one with one remaining. At least the Twins won't go
to the playoffs either, so you're not alone out of
the division. Mike Carvin, Bucky Brooks with you, here at

(02:00:29):
Bucky Brooks at Big Play Football, where you find him
in the Instagram world, read them on NFL dot com.
A lot on the young quarterbacks in his latest column.
So we'll traverse that tale a little bit as we
get through this hour. But Bucky, Yeah, I mean, that's
that's the story of my life.

Speaker 1 (02:00:44):
You know.

Speaker 4 (02:00:44):
We get a Friday night news dump that the Knicks
are making a trade to bring in Carl Anthony Towns.
The Jets look like they're winning, la la la la la. Meanwhile,
my sporting hell continues one I had to deal with
all the Carl Anthony Towns Julius Randall trade on air.
We have the crazy Miami finish. But like all of
these things, and now the Mets are, you know, almost eliminated,

(02:01:06):
but not quite. And I get settling in for a
full bear season now at this point, trying to figure
out how they turn it around, as I put baseball
in the rear view mirror.

Speaker 1 (02:01:17):
How they turn it around. We're only a few games
into the year. What are we talking about.

Speaker 4 (02:01:24):
At all?

Speaker 1 (02:01:24):
But we gotta we gotta turn it around already, Like
that's where we're at.

Speaker 4 (02:01:29):
Yeah, No, I well, I look play calling, look that
sequence at the goal line last week was unconscious? Are
Roshawn Johnson North South runner just picked you up a
fourth down run? See down legislating week three? H Yet
here's Herbert and here's DeAndre Swift. What is DeAndre Swift?
He's a sideline to sideline dance and eventually cut kind

(02:01:51):
of guy in and around the goal line. Do you
have that kind of room to do that? Bucky Brooks?

Speaker 1 (02:01:55):
Yeah, no, No, got to get to it, get right
to it. So anything happens fast.

Speaker 4 (02:02:00):
Yeah, so play calling, et cetera. But it's just that curiosity. Look,
a lot of the high expectations. Keenan Allen will be
back on the field for the Bears later on today
and allegedly, you know maybe at the urging I went
Shawshank Redemptoure. We just celebrated the thirtieth anniversary of it. Bucky.
You know how Andy Dufray to get the library. He
started writing letters and then he started writing two letters

(02:02:21):
a day. Yeah, that's what I kind of did, saying
ro Shaw Johnson should be touching the football. It'll help
protect a little bit about the bad offensive line too,
because you just have a guy running North South. They
could just concentrate on doing their job.

Speaker 1 (02:02:33):
Yeah, yeah, she'd be able to do it.

Speaker 4 (02:02:36):
Some basebook football stuff, no, nothing crazy, but I mean,
look for Caleb Williams. Obviously, expectations he and Jade and
Daniels are forever going to be linked based on the
position at the top of the draft, and certainly Daniels
showing out in a big primetime game got tongues wagging
all week long. You know, we talked about it in

(02:02:57):
the preseason, the thought that they had enough weaponry in
Washington to maybe be interesting. Didn't think it would happen
by week three. So all of a sudden, you got that.
You got Dallas reeling with some injury issues, Philadelphia still
has plenty of issues. And then you've got the Giants, who, look,
they moved the ball, but Daniel Jones can't hit the

(02:03:17):
deep ball, whatever that is physically, mentally whatever. Those opportunities
this last week on Thursday against Dallas, number of plays
that look like makeable throws. He just couldn't get it there.
So for Washington, all of a sudden, it becomes a
why not us situation?

Speaker 1 (02:03:36):
Look, and.

Speaker 3 (02:03:38):
Never thought it did would happen like this for the Commanders, right,
But it's very similar, not saying he's the same, but
very similar to Hyde pop real quickly for CJ. Stroud
in Houston, Texans. After a while, listen to what the
locker room is saying.

Speaker 1 (02:03:52):
About Jay and Daniels. He's the one, he's the franchise,
He's the savior.

Speaker 3 (02:03:58):
He's This tells me is they believe in the young quarterback,
and that belief is something that changes the dynamic of
the team because now when you're on defense, what you
say is, hey, guys, I know it's two minutes left,
but man, if we can somehow get a stop, number
five can get us there. On offense, they're saying, height,
number five got the ball. Eight, Everyone just block a

(02:04:19):
little bit. Everyone run your route's a little tighter. He's
gonna give us a chance. When you have hope in
your quarterback, or your quarterback gives you hope, it changes
the plight of the franchise. The commanders went from hoping
they could maybe have a winning season. So now they're
kind of looking around like, hey, guys, you know what,
like maybe we can know that changes everything.

Speaker 1 (02:04:39):
That confidence is a major mover.

Speaker 4 (02:04:42):
Well we've seen it, just a complete reorganization. There still
some vestiges of past regimes, etc. But overall, the attitude
and the front office certainly shifting out as well as
we look at the coaching staff. Dan Quinn comes in there.
We had Jay Glazer on Thursday. He joins Smith and
I each week after the Thursday night football game, and

(02:05:03):
that he was quick to point out, you know you
bring and we laugh about adults in the room. But
there's something to be said for all right, this is
this is the way we run things. There's no feel
out process and no from day one, you know what
you're getting with dan Quinn. And I got to say
that speaks volumes to how quickly this thing was able
to turn.

Speaker 1 (02:05:24):
So here's the thing, because we talked about is briefly
with Andy.

Speaker 3 (02:05:28):
He talked about Mike Flores and I mean Brian Flores
and whether he deserves.

Speaker 1 (02:05:32):
Another chance or whatever.

Speaker 3 (02:05:34):
Sometimes you have to go through that first run, make
your mistakes, learn from it, grow from it, and you
come back a better coach. Dan Quinn is a better
coach because of all the things he went through, not
only in leading them to the Super Bowl, but falling
on his face in the Super Bowl with a twenty
eight to three lead, not being able to turn that
team back around, going to Dallas as a coordinator, re

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establishing himself as a top defensive mind, learning all of
those things, and now taking it to Washington. Say that
Jake Glazer comes in and says that from day one
he established no, no, no, this is what we're doing things.

Speaker 1 (02:06:05):
I'm not I don't think we I know exactly what
I want. This is what we're doing period.

Speaker 3 (02:06:12):
To me, there's some confidence that comes with that and
the team knowing that your leader is definitive in terms
of what he wants to do.

Speaker 4 (02:06:20):
Oh, he's the gun. But that's the thing direction, right,
It's one thing because in Chicago, by way of contrast,
you've got a guy that many still wonder what his
future is, whether they int you know, new deals and
add years on. For ibra Flus, the question was still
how long is he the guy? And then you hire
Waldron and through the first three weeks, I just call

(02:06:43):
what it is, Bucky, it don't look great, don't look great,
and and that, and that doesn't absolve Caleb from his
his issues and decisions that he's made. But it's only context. Right,
But here, here's what we know.

Speaker 3 (02:06:57):
The owner has paid the young quarterback. The young quarterback
ain't going nowhere, right, so he's gonna be like, look
because remember owners here everything from TV, so what they
heard for a year and a half before they made
the pick generational talent, game changer, franchise savior. So before

(02:07:18):
they say, hey, the quarterback is wrong, they'll be like, nah,
the coach is wrong because everyone in the outset world
told me that this guy's the next coming, So y'all
are messing it up. So yeah, Eva flus Waldron Deak crew,
they'll go somebody else would come in and have an
opportunity to maximize what Kay the Williams.

Speaker 4 (02:07:35):
Is and certainly looking at the roster construction, you know
you can also say how much you love Roma Dunza
while at the same time going boyant offensive lineman might
have helped there, and you know, should try to support
your number one overall. Pick right, we like the shiny things.
It's all about infrastructure and look, you and I have
been doing shows together for years and we probably talk

(02:07:57):
more offensive and defensive line can instruction and continuity than most.
It may bore some people, but you know that's how
winning football is done.

Speaker 3 (02:08:07):
It's always going to be in the trenches. And I
say this, and I'm sure we've had this conversation. Your
team has to be built in the image of the city.
So as much as I love all those fancy things
and those shiny weapons that they have on the outside,
and oh look at them throw the ball all over
the yard, there's something to me that when I close

(02:08:27):
my eydes and I think about the city of Chicago,
and I think about the windy city, and I think
about how tough it is. A blue collar city, one
that fancies itself in having tough people.

Speaker 1 (02:08:37):
The team has to be tough. You can't establish a
tough culture with guys on the perimeter. It has to
start in the trenches. Old line, D line.

Speaker 3 (02:08:46):
So it's not only they didn't take an offensive lineman
or whatever, but what about a defensive lineman to fortify
the Bears defense. The monsters are the midwages what I've
always heard about, right, Like, the defense should be the
ones that are really getting it done.

Speaker 1 (02:09:00):
I mean, it's cool, it's fun and exciting to think
that your quarterback is gonna do it. But in Chicago
does that ever work? Though? Has it worked?

Speaker 4 (02:09:11):
Because they've been taken many many bits at the apple, right,
And this gets into the larger conversation. This is a
therapy session with all of you across the globe here
on the iHeartRadio app and our Fox Sports radio affiliates nationwide.
But like they've traded for guys, they've made so many
moves through the years, draft picks and look, the jersey
may not be as long as the famous Cleveland Brown's

(02:09:35):
quarterback jersey with all the names, but it's pretty damn close,
you know, when you get it all through guys like
David Fails and so many others. I mean, I'm surname
that I don't know. It just sets you up badly.
It's like naming your kid Jeeves. What's he gonna do?
He's a butler, you know. So it's that kind of thing.
But it's the idea that you've taken all these different

(02:09:57):
ways and approaches to go through. I mean, for years,
it's where wide receivers went to die, and they laughed
about it openly Mohammad, right, I mean, but you know
he actually put up some decent numbers where they went
to die. I mean, you had a couple of years
where he had Eric Kramer winging and around, but did
it yield wins. No it didn't. Jake Cutler winging it around,

(02:10:17):
Brandon Marshall was there, gave you a lot of good,
but was it winning football? Well, they had the one
year and then Cutler gets hurt and you know he
kind of goes to hell. Right, you let the Packers
back into the playoffs down the end of the regular season,
and while they go on and beat you in the
title game for the conference. But that all that to say, Yeah,

(02:10:39):
it's usually been about the run game and about your defense,
and right now your run game is non existent. It's
just woefully short of what you need to support a
young quarterback.

Speaker 3 (02:10:52):
I think the other thing that is interesting, right, And
as a Bears fan, I asked you this said, I'm
not trying to inflict pain, but I'm again, would be
okay if you would be okay?

Speaker 1 (02:11:03):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (02:11:03):
So you see your former quarterback go to the Pittsburgh Steelers.
All right, your former quarterback is leading the team that's
three and oh. There hasn't been sexy on offense, but
the team is three and oh the team is winning
ugly football. And when I look at Steelers fans and
I look at them win, it appears that they are
okay winning.

Speaker 1 (02:11:22):
Ugly football games.

Speaker 3 (02:11:23):
As a Bears fan, would you be okay winning stylistically
in a fashion that looks like the Pittsburgh Steelers?

Speaker 1 (02:11:31):
Are you okay winning ugly? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (02:11:33):
A bigger question, I think for me, and I think
for most Bears fans, they just want the W at
the end of the day. Style points would be nice.
Now if I was doing it year to year like
you see in Pittsburgh after a while and kind of
get tired of that because I don't want to sweat
out every game the same way, right.

Speaker 1 (02:11:51):
No, you know what?

Speaker 4 (02:11:52):
No, no, no, But where it's like, all right, well
we might be able to make the playoffs, but can't
we really do any damage? Because that's where Pittsburgh fans
are right it is And this is a great start,
there's no question about it. But is Arthur Smith going
to be able to uncork something in that offense that
makes them more viable and dangerous? Because if I got
to grit my teeth and hope I'm getting to twenty

(02:12:12):
points each week, Bucky, that's a that's a recipe for
an ulcer for me. Now, can I do it for
a year to get those WS shirt can I do
it for two or three years yet? But my year
ten of that, I'm like, come on, man.

Speaker 3 (02:12:26):
But then, but then my thing would be, is it
really the football that's bringing about the ulcers? No, No,
Chicago dog is the Chicago dog with the nitro green relish.

Speaker 4 (02:12:37):
Bringing that has not been proven to cause any health issue.
I think we can all surmise based on the coloration
that there's problems to be had, but I don't know
that it's been proven to be a problem just yet.
But but legitimately, yeah, it's like I think, if if
you can get the style of football from Justin Fields
and that balance and support that they have thus far

(02:13:00):
through three games, and we'll see what happens here going forward. Right,
obviously you got a winnable game against Indianapolis. This one
feels very dangerous because Indianapolis has been terrible save a
couple of big throws from Anthony Richardson, and last week
they committed to running the ball with Jonathan Taylor, so
that helped, you know, keep the mistakes to a minimum

(02:13:22):
and kept the Bears defense on its heel. Right, they
couldn't stop the run, just keep slamming it into the line,
but yeah. I think if Justin Fields can play mistake
free football and you can work at orchestrated offense to
where you don't have those giveaways, I mean that's all anybody.
I think at the end of the day, they loved
the explosive and the flash, but yeah, just don't give

(02:13:46):
a game away, right, Will Levis, we were talking about
it last hour with Andy. It's like he's done a
lot of great things, like if you go back and
watch their three games, and then he's just made some
numbingly stupid decisions that his coach is gonna have an
aneurysm watching on the sideline, right, I mean, Callahan, I
just want I just want a camera on him. I

(02:14:08):
mean that's better than the Manning cast or anything else
you could give me. Picture in picture, Oh my god, yes,
play to play. I mean, he wears his heart on
his sleeve and he can see the young guy's got
some talent. He's slinging it at times. And then that
play against Chicago just atrocious. The play last week, right, Hey,
you're going down and just just eat the take the sack,

(02:14:30):
live to see another day. Nope, I'm gonna try to
make a play. I like it. To a degree, but
you gotta rein it in And that was part of
Justin Field's issue during during his time in Chicago. Not
to mention you saw the podcast he did this week.
They asked him the difference you know about coaching and
he goes, oh, yeah, Pittsburgh without a doubt, like there
was no hesitation, Like he could they could finish the

(02:14:51):
and get the question mark in the end of the
and what do you think you know, the little voice
inflection for the question out before he was answering.

Speaker 1 (02:15:01):
That's not good, that's not good.

Speaker 4 (02:15:05):
But he goes back to what we were talking about, right,
organizational stability and coaches with a distinct line in the
stand of who they are and Mike Tomblin there's nobody
better than that.

Speaker 3 (02:15:17):
Uh, and I would say this is the belief, right.
Did he ever feel like anybody in that building really
believed in him? Did he feel like Luke Getxy believed
in him? When they were putting plays on the whiteboard
and he was like, hey, Justin you did did he
really sense that, Hey man, you're the guy that I
want to run this play because no one can do

(02:15:39):
it better than you.

Speaker 1 (02:15:40):
Did he get that sense?

Speaker 4 (02:15:42):
By the way, how'd Luke Getzy get the job in Vegas.
I'll leave it at that when we go back to
our coordinators and other opportunities.

Speaker 1 (02:15:51):
I don't know that's a good one.

Speaker 4 (02:15:54):
How do you like that for that million dollar question?

Speaker 1 (02:15:56):
All right?

Speaker 4 (02:15:58):
As we continue at Bucky Brooks where you find him
in the Twitter verse at big Play Football on Instagram,
find me over at Swollen Dome. We'll continue with the
National Football League a number of stories, but I'd be
remiss if we didn't circle back to one of the
big upsets of the college football Saturday. And all of
a sudden, my eyebrows are raised. There should be two.
That's next on Fox Football Sunday Grittings, Welcome back in

(02:16:23):
Fox Sports Radios. Fox Football Sunday. We commemorate all sorts
of big things and milestones. You know, this weekend we
would have celebrated the ninetieth birthday of Wilford Brimley. I
bring that up to remind you that he was only
forty nine when Cocoon was filmed. Look it up. Everybody
knows where their Brimley line is, what you look like,

(02:16:45):
how you're feeling when you hit that age. Just remember
you got a lot of life ahead of you, so
go out and do something great. There's your PSA for
the morning at Bucky Brooks where you find him on Twitter.
Find me over at Swollen Dome. Do a lot on
the NFL here, Bucky, but we do take our turn
back into the car college football world. We had a
couple of monster games yesterday too, in particular that had

(02:17:07):
my rapped attention. Now I watch a lot of Big ten,
but we'll push that off to the side for now.
We had the Alabama Georgia game, which is to say,
this is not your father's Alabama Georgia game forty one
thirty four, and at times I felt like I was
cheated that nobody gave me a joystick with some of
the spin moves in big play capability in that one

(02:17:29):
mill row back after a miserable first half, it was
what thirty to seven at the break, they charged back
take a temporary lead before Alabama strikes right back again.
You know, I don't know if you know this, but
the wide receiver is only seventeen years old. I think
that was said thirty seven times. You were doing a
drinking game. You were under the table before he ever

(02:17:50):
made that play. Yeah, but forty one, thirty four and
Jalen Milroe coming out with a massive game thirty seventy
four and two another h seventeen and two on the ground.

Speaker 3 (02:18:03):
You know what's remarkable about Jaln Milroe. Just think about
where we were this time last year, how people were
ready to dump him, calling for his head, mad at him.
They had just slucked through a disappointing performance against South Florida.
To see him become the player that he's become is amazing.
Before I give credit to Kaitlyn de Boy, I want
to give credit to Nick Saban for kind of jumping

(02:18:26):
in and say, hey, you know what, he's going to
be our quarterback.

Speaker 1 (02:18:28):
We're going to figure out a way to use him.
And they've done it.

Speaker 3 (02:18:30):
But I'm gonna say Kaitlyn de Boy has taken him
to another level. The player that played last night was remarkable.
And look, he made interceptions, he made some plays, but man,
this dude as a just from a collegiate standpoint, his
ability to make plays as a dual threat is something else.
Because he has the size and the speed of a
running back, a true running back turning the corner, and

(02:18:51):
he has become a more efficient passer. Alabama is dangerous
with the tool threat like that in the mix. And look,
I'll say this, I saw Jalen Hurts play for them.
To me, he's a little more dynamic than Jalen Hurst wasn't.
Jalen Hurst was sec Offensive Player of the Year as
a freshman down the end of offense. That transformation has

(02:19:12):
been really fun to watch.

Speaker 4 (02:19:14):
No question about it. Kirby Smart, on the other hand,
try to figure out how he solves the Alabama riddle.
Now the other game. Bring this up. We've talked about him.
We've got to give him the flowers. When they go
it out and do big things. I don't know how
many others will. Colorado forty eight, UCF twenty one an
absolute beat down and clinic Schadur Sanders and Travis Hunter. Lookay,

(02:19:38):
I'll always applaud when you see the good. You know,
it's the old facts of life. Take the good, take
the bad. Certainly when it bleeds it leads is how
we do most sports stock But for me, let's do
some celebrations here. The fact that they committed to the
run game here, Bucky, that was the thing that struck
me from the moment and the out set of this

(02:20:00):
game and twenty nine carries one hundred and twenty eight yards,
two touchdowns on the ground. Everybody got fed. Nobody with
a monster game, but everybody pounding it up the gut,
getting to the outside and making life a lot easier
for Shador Sanders because notice UCF, he wasn't quite clean
Jersey Club. But that's about as close as he's ever gotten.

Speaker 3 (02:20:23):
Yeah, one hundred percent. Now here's what I say and
everyone should know. For disclosure, Coach Frime and our friends
we talked frequently. He is someone that I really have
spent a lot of time talking to him about his
ambitions as a coach. I remember when he was coaching
high school ball or whatever, and I think people have
to understand.

Speaker 1 (02:20:42):
This is not his first rodeo when it comes to coaching.

Speaker 3 (02:20:45):
So when there was a lot of consternation and outrage
about him in Colorado, could he stick? People have to
remember before you even got the Jackson State, he spent
more than a decade coaching.

Speaker 1 (02:20:54):
High school and youth ball and all this other stuff
all over. So like he is committed to being a coach.

Speaker 3 (02:20:59):
And what good coaches do is they adapt and adjust,
and they've adapted to the personnel they've had, they've adjusted
the way they're.

Speaker 1 (02:21:06):
Playing and the beginning to win games. And the danger
comes in if they can crack the code and figure
out how to become.

Speaker 3 (02:21:14):
A really good team by eliminating to self inflict the mistakes,
which you didn't see many of them yesterday, by playing
a balanced ball where they have offense, defense and special
teams working together, and they mean in balance on offense
in terms of run pass ratio, they can win games.
And so what that game did is, I know there's
a lot of bravado on how they do it whatever.

(02:21:34):
I think that game gave them so much confidence. They're
going to be a different kind of team when they
square off against Kansas State in two weeks, because that's
going to be a big game. It'll be hyped up.
Kansas State is a really good team. I saw them
mollywop Oklahoma State yesterday. So the Buffalo's will be underdogs,
but it'll almost be a signature statement game if they're

(02:21:56):
able to do it, and it could really take the
program to.

Speaker 1 (02:21:59):
Another level if they able to knock off k State
in two weeks.

Speaker 4 (02:22:01):
Double digit dog yesterday came in and you know, just
watching on the sideline obviously got a lot of luminaries
that make the runs, but the guy that and he
was featured prominently on the telecast Phil load Hold second
round pick of the Vikings coming out of Colorado all
those years ago. I remember writing and doing a bunch

(02:22:22):
of bits on him heading into the draft and seeing
him getting fired up and getting that front five on
the right page. You know, if they can get consistency
out of those guys, I mean, look at what that
unlocked yesterday. I mean, they may have just scratched the surface,
oh one.

Speaker 1 (02:22:41):
And you know the thing that that coch Frym talked about.

Speaker 3 (02:22:44):
He talked about just having pros around him, because everyone
wanted to know, why would he go get Pat Schirmer,
Why would he go and get a pro dB coach
to be their defensive coordinated. He said, because he wanted
the same mindset so he could relate to them when
they were talking about adjustments and approach and all of
those things.

Speaker 1 (02:23:04):
It's beginning to work.

Speaker 3 (02:23:04):
And I will say this for watching Shaduer It's not
the first time, but it's one of the few times
in a long time that I've seen him play with
the calmness and the composure, the cool part of his
game where he didn't get too rout or didn't get
out of source, didn't get distracted by the conversation and
the talking and all the other stuff that sometimes seeps
into his game.

Speaker 1 (02:23:25):
He was really locked in and his team is locked in.

Speaker 3 (02:23:28):
But before I talk about all those other guys, Travis
Hunt is the best college football player in the country.
What Travis Hunter does is remarkable, his two way ability,
what he does offense defense. When we talk about defining
the Heisman Trophy, that is what the Heisman Trophy should be.
Best player that impacts the game in a bunch of ways.
Travis Hunter is good.

Speaker 4 (02:23:49):
Oh, he's fun to watch. And you know, it's just
one of those questions as we go through the long
grind of a season, though, Bucky, when we're talking about
one hundred and thirty two plays or whatever those numbers
are weekly basis, it's a question I will and we'll
wait and see. Right, We'll see at the end of
the season how this works out. I don't know that
last year by the end necessarily a fair you know,

(02:24:10):
recognition of it all based on the way the season
went for them. After the early September and some of
those games. But I always wondered, you know, going back
to the streak of Saya cal Ripken, if maybe a
day or two off in early September would have done
him some good for Pennant stretches. That's all. It's one
of those kind of things in terms of being judicious

(02:24:30):
of how you're using a guy overall, and it's more
towards the eye of the next level of how things
get adjudicated and where he fits in the next program.
But certainly, right now, maybe he's the best player on
the field at every point.

Speaker 1 (02:24:47):
He is.

Speaker 3 (02:24:48):
You know, the funny thing is he will end up
playing in fewer plays when he gets to the pros
than he.

Speaker 1 (02:24:52):
Does in college. Yeah, on average, on offense.

Speaker 3 (02:24:56):
NFL team different pace sixty five to seventy plays. Right now,
you're talking about college games where offenses are having like
one hundred players a piece and those things. And as
I liken it, when I think about the pro game,
he could at least be a number three receiver at
a minimum.

Speaker 1 (02:25:14):
Right sure, he could at least.

Speaker 3 (02:25:15):
Be your guy on third down that comes in and
is one of your three or four receiver packages and
does some things We know he's a standout player on defense,
so however you choose to use him, whether he is
your number like a starting receiver and your nickel We
saw Troy Brown play nickelback for the Patriots. We don't
think that he can at least do what Troy Brown

(02:25:35):
did for the Patriots. So that's why I think there
is a path for him to be able to play
both sides of the ball. But you're right, you have
to do you have to be judicious in how you
use him. But I absolutely think someone will be crazy
if they don't use him on both sides of the ball.

Speaker 4 (02:25:50):
Yeah, it's fun to watch regardless. And look, we always
look for storylines and we love when the threads continue.
I know certainly someone will find some with something somebody
celebrated too long or whatever. Play yesterday was an absolute
clinic and the balance on offense the thing that stood
out to me. He's Bucky Brooks on my garment. It's

(02:26:10):
Fox Football Sunday. Here Fox Sports Radio Now to a
man with plenty of updates and he's got a big
game to talk about later on. It's our guy, Isaac
Lowan craw what's up.

Speaker 8 (02:26:20):
I love, good morning fellas, and speaking of big games,
as you alluded to it, what drama in college football
Saturday Night, Number four Alabama defeating second ranked Georgia forty
one to thirty four, Alabama taking a thirty to seven
lead with five oh seven left in the third quarter.
Georgia going on a stunning twenty seven or nothing run
for a thirty four to thirty three lead, but Alabama

(02:26:43):
was able to come up with a big response.

Speaker 4 (02:26:45):
Snap going to Mill Road, looking deep down field, looking
for Williams.

Speaker 3 (02:26:50):
Comes back, makes the kang, try to splint defenders, makes
the bang into each other, stays on his screen, break
the tackle.

Speaker 4 (02:26:56):
Scars Scars, Scars, ran well one play, seventy.

Speaker 2 (02:27:02):
Five yards, and then Alabama's Xavian Brown came through with
a game saving interception for the Crimson Tide in the
end zone with forty three seconds to play. Gonna play
you that highlight here, but I'm gonna give a shout
out to Alabama color analyst Tyler Watts.

Speaker 4 (02:27:19):
You guys can appreciate this.

Speaker 8 (02:27:20):
So Brown makes the game saving interception and instead of
losing his mind and babbling all over the air in celebration,
you can hear Tyler Watts simply put his headset down
a mic drop if you will, so he can go
crazy and celebrate with high fives off the air.

Speaker 4 (02:27:38):
Listen for the mic drop. Literally Beck looking firing towards you,
and so that interceptorcept it hit pick.

Speaker 1 (02:27:47):
Intercepted.

Speaker 3 (02:27:49):
Alabama gets the pick, the interception is made, Bye Alabama
getting Zapi and Brown with the interception.

Speaker 8 (02:27:58):
So again credit to Tyler Watson for that professionalism. Eighth
ranks Oregon what at UCLA thirty four to thirteen. Arizona
won a tenth ranked Utah twenty three to ten, and
for twenty five Boise State over Washington State forty five
to twenty four. Boise State running back Ashton Genti ran
for two hundred and fifty nine yards with four touchdowns.

(02:28:19):
Baseball Saturday ninth, the Padres broke a scoreless tie with
five runs of the top of the ninth inning for
a five nothing win at Arizona. So going out to
the final day of the regular season, Braves host Let's
hold the second wildcard spot in the National League. After
their two to one victory over Kansas City, the Diamondbacks
and Mets are tied for the final wild card spot.

Speaker 4 (02:28:40):
Back to you, guys keep an eye on it all
day long at Isaac Loewencron. Yeah, he's got pre and
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(02:29:01):
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I thought was interesting. We talked a lot about the

(02:29:21):
the NFC East. Little Jaden Daniels love some of the
fallout from the Giants, but certainly the Cowboys always at
the forefront of our minds when we talk NFL. Bucky.
It's just the price of doing business and the goal
that Jerry Jones gives us on a weekly basis. But
how about this former NFL coach defensive coordinator now pundit

(02:29:42):
and I'll spare you at Sunday morning, all the other
jokes that usually get associated with his name, but a
direct tryan he appeared on the d Pietro and Rothenberg
Show indicated that well, he could have been the Cowboys
defensive coordinator this year, but they weren't unable to really
reach a financial settlement. I could have fixed it in
a New York minute, but they wouldn't pony up the money.

(02:30:03):
But I would have been there. So Mike Zimmer's there.
They're giving up twenty nine point seven points per game,
last in rushing yards, giving up one hundred and eighty
six a game twenty eighth and total yards allowed near
least three hundred and seventy five. And Ryan very pointy
with his comments about Zimmer's lack of success the last
couple of years he was in Minnesota and calling all

(02:30:24):
that out. I bring this up, not I mean Rex
being Rex, but you have a broken defense, an offense
that can't run the ball, and now Micah Parsons and
Lawrence are off your defense indefinitely. How do you fix it?
Bucky Man? What kind of cape can Dak Prescott get?

(02:30:47):
He and Cede Lamb to try to make this thing
machine run?

Speaker 3 (02:30:51):
I think you have to put yourself in a position
where hopefully you've committed to developing some of those younger players.

Speaker 1 (02:31:00):
And look, those guys have to play, and they have
to play right away, and they got to play well.

Speaker 3 (02:31:10):
I think if you're Mike Zimmer, you continue to do
the thing, because really, it was one bad performance to
really set them apart.

Speaker 1 (02:31:14):
They couldn't figure out how to slow down the Saints.

Speaker 3 (02:31:18):
But if they can figure out how to stop the
running game without Michael Partons, without the Marcus Lawrence, they
still can be Okay, here's what I'll say.

Speaker 1 (02:31:27):
Rex Ryan obviously love some Rex Ryan.

Speaker 3 (02:31:30):
Which is why he's talking. I would say out of
turn when it comes to those things. But look, I
don't think the defense is as bad as it appears.
I think the defense has to be stellar though, because
the offense isn't.

Speaker 1 (02:31:45):
What it once was.

Speaker 3 (02:31:46):
They're not scoring the points that they're not capable of
scoring the points that they used to score, so now
they have to keep the score down more so than hey,
look man, we just got a band, but don't break
in those things. So it's a different style. But Mike
Zimmer has been around the league too long. He's had
too much success to not figure it out and as
much as I love Rex Ryant, Rex Ryan is not
the greatest defensive corner that has ever lived.

Speaker 1 (02:32:09):
I mean, he's done some good things, but he's not that.

Speaker 3 (02:32:11):
So he's had some down moments tooma, I'm gonna hang
in with Zimmer and I'm gonna say that Zimmer finds
a way to crack the code and fix it.

Speaker 4 (02:32:17):
Now. I know he missed the fifty one yarder and
the points spread was five and a half. He ends
up in Cowboys five point win. But post Malone showed
you who was the best Cowboy on the team when
he walked out in a Brandon Aubrey jersey. Because go
back to that win against Cleveland, what did they do?
They settled for long field goals. They put up a
big point total, but it wasn't because they were putting

(02:32:38):
up sixes.

Speaker 1 (02:32:40):
No, they they the special teams have been their best players.

Speaker 3 (02:32:45):
They had a long return in that game against Cleveland,
upon return for a touchdown, then they had the field
goals and the field goal. The playcareer has been nails. Yeah,
that's why they've been winning.

Speaker 1 (02:32:54):
It ain't been.

Speaker 3 (02:32:55):
Because of like Dak and those guys going crazy. It's
been because they've been really efficient, and specially the teams
that playing compromentary revolve when they got it done. Now
we saw against the Giants, that's who the Cowboys are.

Speaker 4 (02:33:06):
Yeah, grind it out and just hope that you're the
opposing quarterback. Can't hit on a big play again, confidence
slash physicality. Wondering where Daniel Jones is on that continuing
because he had a couple of opportunities broken coverages downfield
that just couldn't make the make the throw. But here's
the Cowboys. Next couple of games here, Bucky at Pittsburgh.
Then they've got the Lions, and then they're at the

(02:33:28):
forty nine ers. That's tough, and maybe by November third
we'll know who the Falcons are and then you got
the Eagles and Texans thereafter. So as King George sang
in Hamilton, good luck. He's Bucky Brooks up by Carbon
It's Fox Football Sunday here Fox Sports Radio at Bucky Brooks.

(02:33:51):
Find me over at Swollen Dome. As we continue, we
set up a couple of final notes for Week four
of the National Football League. What we're watching for and
expectations as we reach the first quarter mark of this season.
That's next on Fox Football Sunday. Hey, welcome back in
It's Fox Football Sunday. Here Fox Sports or Radio. You

(02:34:13):
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(02:34:35):
Network FS one and of course blessed to be with
him here each and every weekend Fox Sports Radio. I'm
gonna answer some fantasy questions, so if you got them
at Swollen Dome. The podcast is up with the starts
and my snarky commentary our guys Dan Bayer and Ian
Roddy as well. Wherever you get your podcast, I want
your flex as well, but Bucky, I'd be remiss. So

(02:34:56):
we've got Shay as our executive producer, Low and Cron
there on the news desk, and of course our guy
Chris Purfett Proud of Detroit is where he writes. But
today I'd bring Chris in for a very specific reason.
He walked in holding I was waiting for him to
put it like on a pole so he can wave
it around like a flag. But he's got a Tommy

(02:35:17):
Devido jersey and he's waving around like a madman. Here, Chris.

Speaker 7 (02:35:22):
I got this after the Packers game last year, that
magical victory. And I'm just saying there's a lot of
problems right now with the Giants, but also a lot
of really cool young, you know, talent on that offense.
And I'm not saying Daniel Jones is the problem, but
I am. I am hoping for a return at some
point this season for my beloved Italian sons. There you go,

(02:35:46):
Bucky Cutless, Tommy Cutler's baby. This is one of these
jerseys that like it's always gonna have a story to it, right, Well,
but that's just it.

Speaker 4 (02:35:54):
Right He becomes a legend, whether he plays another down
for them or not. Check out everything Chris has going
at Chris Burfette in the Twitter verse Priude of Detroit
where you read it and hear the audio of the
podcast that they do each and every week as well.
He's got a little bit of a blessing because well,
he's got a Monday night game, so Sunday he could
just watch.

Speaker 7 (02:36:13):
Things and where the Tommy DeVito jersey? And where the
Tommy Deviti even though they played on even though they
played on.

Speaker 4 (02:36:19):
There, that's okay. You could still try to channel that
energy for me. I've got Bears Rams coming up a
little bit later, Bucky Jaguars looking to find that first win.
A Houston team that came in with a lot of
hype to this point, a bit imperfect. That offensive line
looks to be something maybe the Jaguars can exploit.

Speaker 1 (02:36:40):
Yeah, you hope.

Speaker 3 (02:36:41):
So before you even talk about Houston, you gotta kind
of fix your own got to tend to your own
knitness coach, as we say, got they gotta work on
just being more efficient and effective on their own executing.
But I'll say this, the textas are dangerous, and any
time a team gets whooped like they got whooped by
the Minnesota Vikings, yep, the next game is typically a
super wrong response. Now, the good thing, you could say

(02:37:02):
the same thing about the Jaguars and the way they
were embarrassed on Monday night. This would be a very
competitive game, But look, man, taking the little teal blind
is off. The Texans are a really good team. They
got talent, good lore on the perimeter. They may be
without some of those players, which will help Jacksonville, But
until you see the Jacks play better, it's gonna be
hard to pick them. The Texans just appear to have
a better team and they're playing better, which is why

(02:37:23):
they should be the favorite in this game.

Speaker 4 (02:37:26):
Six or six and a half opened at three and
a half when the lines were first established. Nico Collins
missed a little bit of practice time expected to suit up.
Stefan Diggs still trying to figure out his space. Target
count is okay, but the yardage and glory touch is
not quite there. And then you've got Joe Mixon trying

(02:37:46):
to come back. He was the victim of one of
those hip drop tackles in that game against Chicago going
back to week two. But outside of the game that
you're working on today, Bucky and obviously me living and
dying a lot of tweet and show you the video
reactions of me perhaps losing my mind during that Bears
Rams game. What what's on your radar? What's the game

(02:38:07):
that's most intriguing. I guess Sunday Night football is the
obvious one. But beyond that is is there a game
that really stands out for you?

Speaker 1 (02:38:15):
Well?

Speaker 3 (02:38:15):
That is that is the Aviage one. That's the one
that you're certainly gonna keep your eyes on, like being
able to look at that. But then look, man, that
the Packers and Vikings yet been on havn't been on
that package out of the rivaly.

Speaker 1 (02:38:29):
That is a game that is huge.

Speaker 4 (02:38:31):
Are you surprised? Love playing.

Speaker 1 (02:38:34):
Kind of kind of?

Speaker 3 (02:38:36):
I would want him to be fully healthy and and
all of that, but also understand why they don't want
to throw Williston. I get that because what Flores has
been doing has been he has been befuddling, confusing all
kinds of quarterbacks and play calls and that stuff. So
I understand that part of But yeah, man, I would
only put him out there if he's good and he
can protect himself. I don't know if this is the week,

(02:38:58):
but I understand it, But this would be a good
one because the win of this one, you talk about
being able to kind of stake your claim.

Speaker 1 (02:39:04):
On a division.

Speaker 3 (02:39:04):
It just kind of gives you, Yeah, no, that's an
opportunity to puff your chest, out.

Speaker 4 (02:39:08):
Right division rivalry. I get it, but I'm looking long
term and what the aspirations are here and sending him
up against Flores's defense. It's kind of like we're talking
about the human Shield thing with Brissett and Drake May.
The other game, of course, forty nine and a half
is the total Washington Arizona. You can sit there with
a joystick and pretend you're playing along. He's Bucky Brooks
at Bucky Brooks is where you find him. Find me

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