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Speaker 1 (00:05):
This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
It is up Straight Fire, Fam, It's me Jason McIntyre,
Straight Fire for Tuesday, October first. Oh my goodness, we
got a banner podcast today because so much fun stuff
went down, and not just the football games last night.
You have well, let's just call this a developing situation.
(00:34):
I'm reluctant to talk too much about it at the jump,
but it's one of these situations where shall we say,
someone's floating a player being traded and then the coach
allegedly liked it. We'll get to that shortly, but I
think we have to start with perfection, because hello, Jared Goff,
How good was Jared Goff last night?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
And the Lions went over Seattle. He was perfect.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Eighteen of eighteen for two ninety two, two touchdowns and oh,
by the way, he caught a touchdown pass from Amara
Saint Brown on a little trickeration in the red zone.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Detroit looked really good.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Detroit's offense looked back and back I mean, you know,
to last year's for him. But I do wonder how
much of that had to do with the Seattle Seahawks
missing two starters on the defensive line. It Listen, their
secondary did not perform well, but a lot of that
has to do with I think the defensive line. Seattle
was able to hang tight Gino Smith, Chuckin and duck
In fifty six pass attempts. But this is like the
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Lions I expected to see right, a lot of gibbson
Montgomery goff of play action golf over the middle. You
had a big James Jamis and Williams touchdown which nearly
killed me in fantasy. Laporta back in the action Amara
Saint Brown six catches.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Like Detroit looked pretty good.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
I will say the officiating in this game, and I
don't know, I don't want to be referee guy, but Detroit,
who has maybe the handsiest defensive backs in the league,
been pushing him for every single play. Twelve penalties one
hundred one yards and Seattle had nine for seventy So
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the offenses were amazing. Seattle had five hundred and sixteen
yards of total offense, the Lions had three hundred and
eighty nine yards of total offense, and then the referees
at one hundred and seventy one yards worth the penalties.
Not a lot of defense played here. Detroit five for
five in the red zone, Seattle was three or four.
Seattle had two turnovers. You you're not gonna win the
game when you have two turnovers and give up forty
two points. So Seattle takes their first l I'm not
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ruling them out. I know some people are gonna be like, oh,
they're frauds. They were. They're like the Buffalo Bills. They
step up in class, face a good team and then
they get smacked here. I don't.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
I don't necessarily see it that way.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I see it as this was a Seattle defense down
two guys from the starting line, and Nuosu I don't
think he played. I don't recall his name. And I
you know, they were playing from behind all night, and
I do think they you know, they caught Detroit here
in a big spot like the Lions were prime for.
This game was a rematch from either a year or
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two ago where it was like thirty eight thirty five.
Detroit matches up well with Seattle, you know, but don't.
I don't think it's panic time for the Seahawks. We'll
get to the Miami Dolphins, who are definitely a Defcon one.
But I Detroit coming out of this with a nice victory,
and they've kind of found their footing after that one
wacky game against Tampa where they just had a bad
game plan. Detroit covers, Detroit wins. I don't want to
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make any sweeping judgments off a forty nine victory.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Rub Yeah, I mean not too much. I will say that.
Shout out to me and you who totally missed picking
this game. You know, I think we both had seattle
in this one covering the spread and that ain't really
worked out, and not to double down. But later on
I also missed on the under on Titan's Dolphins, oh,
because of the ever dumbest touchdown ever. But we'll get
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to that later. Look, I mean, the Detroit Lions looked great.
I mean you saw everything that you like about them,
and it was a microcosm of the team as a unit.
You know, great offensive line, running game is awesome, and
if you can keep Jared Goff upright, Jared Goff can
sling it with the best of them, point blank.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Period.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
You also saw, and you allude to this, what you
don't like about the Detroit Lions, and that defense is
a problem. To put it lightly, They I don't trust them,
you know, in the big moments against some of the
better upper echelon teams. We'll see if Seattle's one of
those upper echelon teams. But there's a reason why they
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became the first team in NFL history, I believe to
blow a twenty one point lead in the championship game
against the Niners last year, because that defense is leaky
in the secondary, especially you mentioned Terry and Arnold is
basically you can call holding on him every play, every
single play, and unless they kind of get that stuff
tightened up. I know they made some acquisition this offseason
and hopefully that they can clean those areas up, but
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if they can't, they're gonna be in a lot of shootouts.
And although they can win those type of games, I
think that if their defense was even you know, middle
of the road, not saying elite, but you know, just solid,
that they would probably be the FAE one of the
fair if not the favorite to come out of the NFC.
So they just got to get that defense, you know,
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working out here in the second half of the season.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Yeah, I would say that. You know, Detroit and Seattle
are both top five in the NFC.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
I remember, I know people were upset that I said
Dallas was in top six, but I guess if you're
ranking right now, I'm sorry. The Minnesota Vikings have to
be the best team in the NFC right now.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
San Francisco's coming on all though.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
This Christian McCaffrey report where he has tendonitis in both
of his legs, like, this is not going well at
all for Cemac. I'll be honest, I don't know that
he's gonna play anytime soon. Maybe they just get him
back for the playoffs. Here's the weird thing. If they
get everybody else back but McCaffrey, are they a super
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Bowl team? I think certainly they are. Jordan Mason runs hard,
you could probably get Listen, we just saw Kareem Hunt
go to the Chiefs off the scrap heap and perform.
Like if the forty nine ers line is fine and
healthy and Trep. Williams is breathing and Jordan Mason goes down,
they can find a backup.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Like running backs are interchangeable. Not obviously.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
McCaffrey is great and adds another dimension, But you give
me a healthy Jennings. Are U crowns into form Debo Kittle,
They're gonna be okay. Without McCaffrey. Obviously, you know, winning
the Super Bowl would be difficult. I think it can
be done. But the NFC, to me right now feels
like Vikings, Lions, forty nine ers, not necessarily in that order.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
I don't think anyone from the South is a real threat.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I think you gotta put Washington and Philly in there,
and then I don't know, Green Bay and then Dallas.
Green Bay's defense just getting shredded last week was a
little troubling, but overall, yeah, I'm not gonna make any
massively sweep in judgments before I get to the Miami game,
where I Am going to make some radical proclamations.
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Speaker 2 (07:08):
I did just want to address the thing I alluded
to at the outset, and that's this whole DeVante Adams thing.
So Michael fab Biano is the writer for Sports Illustrated.
He has some fantasy stuff and he essentially wrote, don't
be surprised if Devanta Adams has already played his final
game with the Raiders and they put it on their Instagram,
and Rob and other outlets, well Rob's not an outlet,
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but Rob g producer and Bleacher Report picked it up.
A lot of people noted that Antonio Pierce liked the
IG post.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Okay, so a few things. Antonio Pierce is a common name.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
I haven't seen the like, so I didn't click to
see if it's his actual profile. B Maybe he accidentally
fat fingered it possible. C Is it possible that someone
running his social liked it, So there are alternatives. I
just find it hard to believe an NFL coach is
sitting on Instagram scrolling through a sports illustrated thing and
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then likes it.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
It.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Just for an NFL coach, that doesn't seem like something
they would do.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Now, maybe I'm putting Antonio Peers in like Bill Belichick
territory or something, but I just to me, I find
that really hard to believe that, like an NFL coach
has Instagram on his phone. Maybe in the off season,
but in season. It just feels a little odd. That
being said, you guys know what I said yesterday on
the pod and by the way, Sunday, I was like,
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there's no way that they would trade Devonte Adams a division,
and then of course you start to kind of see
the Ray Rice not Ray Rice, I'm sorry, She Rice
situation unfold and you're like, well, damn three Pete is real, Like, yeah, sure,
we could call DeAndre Hopkins and go for him, but
is he changing things significantly?
Speaker 3 (08:53):
I don't know. DeAndre happens a little past his prime.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I mean, DeVante Adams is like a legit, you've gotta
guard him or he'll have both catches for a buck
seventy five. Like, I don't know that de hop is
doing that at this stage in his career.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
So Rob, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
I didn't mean to pooh pooh it as if like,
let's ignore this. We all think there's some smoke with
this Davante Adams hamstring injury. But go ahead, Rob, take
it away.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Look, it's a well documented how I feel about Antonio Pierce.
I've gone on this record on this podcasting. I think
he's a fraud. And it goes back to him coaching
high school Long Beach Polly Powerhouse Gears in the California.
His second year there, missed the playoffs entirely for the
first time in thirty six years of that school's history,
So that was kind of a big deal. And at first,
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when I saw the story and I saw that the
Links and Fabiano actual shared it themselves with the first
guy I saw it, I was like, you're right, it's
got to be he fat fingered it, or he accidentally
or you know, he liked it for motivation, Like, hey,
this is what they're saying about. Is YadA YadA, YadA?
Until I remember it about a week ago, when following
an inexplicable loss that they had to Caro, Antonio Peers
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went out of his way to say that several players
made business decisions at the end of that game. I
can promise you not a single Beat reporter who covers
the Raiders would have ever looked back and watch the
All twenty two or watch that game and said, hey,
you know what, I was watching it at the end
of the game. I'm almost positive that Jack Jones wasn't
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really trying to make tackles that he was kind of protecting,
Like nobody is watching the game with that level of
combing through it. If you're really covering anything like that,
if you're a blogger, and if you're a guy who
does this online, you probably have all day to do it.
You'll publish it, put it out on the Twitter verse,
and nobody would care. I mean, maybe the people who
follow you will, but on the grand scheme of things,
not a big story. So Antonio Pears, on his own,
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his own volition, went out of his way to point
out that one of the starting defensive backs was making
business decisions. Became a story for twenty four hours. He
addresses it the next day. You know what, I probably
shouldn't say it, but you know I stand on business.
So then it goes to another twenty four hours, and
then it continues, and then it continues. Then finally out
Friday is like, you know what, shouldn't have said that?
(11:08):
You know, that's that's not fair to my team. I
gotta do a better jobh blah blah blah. But by
then the damage has been done. Antonio Piers, as we
mentioned on this podcast, is the first guy in any
sports to get hired strictly off of vibes. It's not
because of his football acumen, it's not because he's a
tactician or anything like that. It's because he says raiders
really loud, and unless Max Crosby smokes cigars, So if
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you were to ask me now here on the October first,
if I believe Antonio Piers really like that tweet or
that Instagram post because for whatever reason he's salty about
Davonte Adams and his you know, murky hamstring injury, I
would say yes. I think that he's one of those
guys who does not think twice about the position that
he's in, who does not realize that his social media commentary,
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his postgame press commence commentary, is gonna be a headline.
He's just talking like anybody else would talk, like you
and I would talk if we were talking off air
on this podcast. So yes, I believe Antonio Pierce is
you know, absent minded enough to do something that's stupid
and cause a firestorm here for Raider Nation.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yeah, I mean I listen. I do like how into
the Raiders you are, because honestly, I barely pay attention
and they've been so bad for so long, just like
my Jets. But I like the Jets, so I hope
they work it out. I hope Devonte get shipped to
a good team, just not the Chiefs. And now I
just want to get into this Miami game. So you guys,
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know I'm in that pick them pool, not the Vegas contest,
a pick them pool, and I was I had ten
correct calls out of fourteen, and then I was sitting
on I was like, let me go Tennessee in Seattle.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
For whatever reason, I'll take the two underdogs.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
And then I'm talking to guys at the herd on Monday,
and I start to get like, wishy washy, you know,
Snoopuntley's in.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
I was like, you know what, let me change, let
me change, and I flipped both. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I had the Lions, and then I flipped to Seattle,
and then I flipped to Miami and I went zero
in to and I lost out on some money. So
I'm pretty pissed off at Miami. I also bet the
under in Miami Tennessee, and then once Will Levis went out,
I added.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
To the under.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
It was like under thirty two, and then it dipped
to thirty one. I was like, lock it up. I
stopped watching the game. It was like a field goal fest, okay,
and then the fourth quarter happens, and I mean, first
of all, this is not just about gambling.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Miami's awful, and I'll tell you why.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
In a second, but so Miami scores, So Miami's down
twenty two to six with like four minutes left. The
Dolphins finally have a drive and they make it twenty
two twelve, So I lose this second under then Tyler
Huntley gets called for intentional grounding in the end zone.
They totally botch the on side kick attempt post safety
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or whatever the kick was, are sorry post safety and
Tennessee gets gifted the ball in the red zone with
thirty seconds left and they score a touchdown to.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Go over, and I was just like, are you kidding me?
This is absolutely brutal.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
But the only thing more brutal than losing that was
the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Folks.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
You know, I like Mike McDaniel. He's got that yoish
thing going on. He's kind of cool. He like he
went to Yale, so he's smart. He's a little nerdy,
and he's kind of like he I think he knows
a bunch of rap lyrics. The way he talks to people.
Remember we had Mike Ssilver on last week. McDaniel just
relates to the locker room. Okay, so two years ago
two I had all these concussions and it kind of
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derailed the season.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
They still made the playoffs. Skylar Thompson started, they lost
last year. Two was fully healthy. Two is awesome.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
He's an MVP candidate midway through the season, and they
make the playoffs and loose, but like everything's in place.
This is a team that scored seventy points in a
game last year, Folks. Tua goes down in Week two
against Buffalo on the Thursday night football game, Concuss goes
on the IR. It was as if Miami didn't even think,
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you know what, we should upgrade at quarterback just in
case two was hurt. Last year, they went out and
got Mike White, and then I guess Tua didn't get injured,
so they were like, oh, we don't need Mike White anymore,
so that we'll just keep Skyler Thompson. Well, Skyler Thompson
was total garbage against Seattle and he got hurt. So
now it's like, oh, my gosh, who can run our offense? Well,
they settle on Snoop Huntley, who they poached from the
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Baltimore practice squad two weeks ago, and he was awful,
could not move the football in any way, shape or form.
Tyreek Hill must be so ticked off. I mean, I'm
not like a body language expert, but every time they
panned to the sideline, it just they look resigned, like
we got no shot.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Wattle has been playing like ass.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
If you have those two in fantasy, don't trade him
because two the might still come back, you know. But
it just this is a team that could be could
be the worst in the NFL without Tua, and we
might find out this week because they're playing the Patriots.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Now.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
I know the Jags are winless, but I don't think
anybody thinks they're the worst team.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
In the league.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
And frankly, on our neutral field, I would make Jacksonville
a favorite over Miami. Miami is bad, folks. They cannot
do anything right.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
And listen.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Their offensive line is doing nothing for Huntley, did nothing
for Skyler Thompson.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
They're bad.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
This is the Miami problem. It goes back to paying
your quarterback everything, paying your wide receiver everything. You guys know,
Tyreek got paid and he got reupped. Tua got paid.
Jalen Ramsey, big expensive defender, pass rusher, Bradley Chubb. He's
hurt or it was hurt coming off the injury. Like
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they don't have any balance to their team. They're top
heavy and everybody's hurt, and they now are look like borderline.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Like an expansion team.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
You look at some of the other than Tyreek Hill
and Waddell and a Chan who's got no airspace. They
have no offensive line to speak up. This is such
a poorly built team. And I'm not saying McDaniel should
be in trouble in any way share beform. I just wonder,
how do you look at your roster and say, hmm, yeah,
we're good backup quarterback? No tool was fine last year,
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And I just want to point to Green Bay. Malik
Willis comes over from Tennessee to Green Bay, Jordan Love
goes down, Malik Willis starts two games, and Lafleur coached
them to victories. One of them was against this Titans team. Okay,
I already forgot who the other one was against, but
it was a nice win because Malik Willis can't play quarterback.
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And you just add all this up. And I know
everybody likes McDaniel and Rob. I'm not going after McDaniel,
but I do have to wonder, like, I don't know,
the Jets got called out for this last year when
Aaron Rodgers goes down in Week one, They're like, oh,
you guys had no backup. You gotta go to Zach Wilson. Well,
Zach Wilson, Tim Boyle and company somehow coax the Jets
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to seven wins. Miami will not sniff seven wins. If
two it doesn't come back this season, they're not gonna
get anywhere near that. This is a Miami team, honestly,
that I think could be the worst team in the
NFL without Tua. And at that point, it's like, wait
a minute, Jay, were you the one asking them to
draft Michael PENNICKX.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Yes, I was. They ended up drafting no quarterback at all.
And I get it.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
You paid two and he's great for your offense when
he's there and healthy. But the reality is two of
the last three seasons now he suffered concussions.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
I don't we don't know if he's coming back.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
He says he wants to, but it just it screams
to me an ill prepared franchise. By the way, I personally,
you know, I'm enjoying the one and three start. So
the Bills are three and one, the Jets are two
and two, the Patriots are one and three and the
Dolphins are one and three. Jets are still in the
thick of the division, even though they lost to the Broncos.
I know it was bad, but this Miami loss at
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home getting thumped and oh, by the way, I didn't
even mention Will Levis went down in the first quarter
with an injury. He already had thrown an interception because
that's what he does. Mason Rudolph comes in the game.
How was the Miami defense not able to turn over
Mason Rudolph? I mean, Mason Rudolph, he wasn't great. Nine
of seventeen eighty five yards. I mean the Tennessee offense
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is a joke. One hundred and two yards passing and
you score thirty one points? What how this make it?
Justin fields looked like Peyton Manning out here, and Tony
Paula looked good, and Tajy Spears is Oh man, that
kid's got some pop. But it's just like this team
is just I don't know what to make of Miami,
rob I just know they're.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Really, really, really bad without Tua Jason.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
There's a stat floating around on the interwebs that is
so absurd that it sounds fake, but I promise you
that it's real. The one in three Miami Dolphins are
currently the only NFL team that has not held a
lead for a single second this season. Now people ask, well,
how is that possible if they won a game, because
their only win came against Jacksonville. They were trailing that
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entire game. They hit a field goal as time I'm expired,
so they didn't actually lead until after the game the
clock I tacked to zero. I don't even know how
that's possible through four games that not accidentally, you're not
up three to nothing on somebody like this team. And
you mentioned it was built almost like a fantasy football roster.
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Because I'm a big too a guy. I know you're
less of a two guy than I am. But I
think one thing we can agree on is even coming
off last year where he had a great season, first
time that he finished the entire year fully healthy, that
you know what, it might make sense to have a
backup in it just in case something goes sideways. Maybe
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call up to Rod Taylor before the Jets can get
to him. Maybe call up the Washington Is, even get
Taylor Heineke on the cheek to be your backup something anything,
because history says that Tua is gonna miss at least
one to two games, whether it's for an ankle or
a finger, and this case of concussion, they didn't do that.
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And now what you're seeing play out in real time
is this whole narrative that we've heard now for a
year and a half or so that well, anybody can
look good in that offense. You know, Mike McDaniel calling
the plays, and Tyreek Hill and Jalen Wattle is a
track meet. You know, tuas a system quarterback, he's not
that great. And what we're seeing right now is the
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narrative that Tua is a system quarterback is officially dead.
At this point. It is fair to say that Tua
is the system in Miami because all the shit that
they were doing that was high flying, throwing up seventy
burgers on people last season does not work unless you
have a quarterback who can dissect the defense very quickly,
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usually in about two seconds, and is highly accurate to
get the ball to Waddle and Chan and Hill and
all these guys in space. I tweeted this to you.
I know you didn't see it because you don't actually
follow my tweets like that, I get it. It's fine,
you know, only friends here on this podcast. I followed,
but we're coming into week four. In games were to
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A played for Mike McDaniel from twenty twenty two to
twenty twenty four, their offense was third in EPA per
drop back, third and pass attempts or pass teen touchdowns
per attempt, second in yards per attempt, second in quarterback rating,
fourth in completion percentage, all of that with Tua. In
games without Tua and their hodgepodge of quarterbacks, most recently Stuwpuntley,
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these numbers are gonna go down now and once this
gets populated, because there hasn't been fixed overnight yet without
two of the Dolphins offense thirty second in EPA per
drop back, thirtyefth in passing touchdowns per attempt, twenty fifth
in yards per attempt, dead last in rating, twenty ninth
in completion percentage. If this is all the Mike McDaniels
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system and all these fast ass wide receivers in this
track me that they have there in Miami, then I
would assume that any buddy can at least be average
with that. They can you know, meet slightly below are.
They could be mid No without Tua. This is the
worst offense in football. An offense featuring All Pro Tyreek
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Hill ro bowler Jalen Waddle, one of the top young
running backs in Devon a.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Chen.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
It's the worst offense in football because it's all built
around the skill set of one guy that kind of
speaks volumes of me.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Yeah. I mean, you wonder how they fix this, and
you know you need to invest in the offensive line.
The problem when you unload all this money on Tyree
and Tua and Jalen Ramsey, it's like you can't pay
for an offensive line. They don't have one. Like the
pockets crumbling on every play. Last year, guys were healthy
and they had the number one rushing offense in the league,
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Like really good rushing offense. Now, I know you could say, well,
moster's hurt, you know, Okay, fine, what's he doing behind
the line? They can't block that. The Titans didn't have
Free Simmons there their best defensive lineman, and they dominated
the line of scrimmage. I mean they had seven tackles
for loss seven. The Tennessee Titans were living in the backfield,
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Like that's an indictment. Man, I don't know this. The
Miami defense just is not good. The Miami offense is
not good.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
I didn't have this team as a playoff team earlier
in the offseason, but it's looking extremely bleak with two out.
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Speaker 2 (24:37):
I do want to quickly wrap up the podcast. Obviously
we could touch on baseball. There was a very random
and I forgive me for not knowing why this happened,
but the Mets ended up playing a double header on Monday,
and they split the doubleheader, and as such, the Diamondbacks
missed the playoffs and the Mets and Braves get into
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the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
But that wasn't even the biggest story.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
The biggest story in baseball was the passing of Pete
Rose at the age of eighty three. I think we
can call him an MLB legend, right The hit King,
the all time hits leader, was banned from baseball for
betting on baseball. It's you know, I don't want to
make this whole like, oh, you should be in the
Hall of Fame. I think he definitely should, but I'm
not going to like get into some big argument back
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and forth about why or why not. So Pete Rose
obviously worked with Fox, and I'll never forget one day,
maybe it was like year two or three.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
I was at Fox.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
I walk into hair and makeup before one of the shows,
and there's this older guy in there, and you know,
I'm just like friendly, Hey, what's up. And then the
guy says hi and looks at me, and I'm like,
oh shit, that's Pete Rose. And like I you know,
I've had moments there where I meet somebody and it's like,
oh my god, I don't know what to say to
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this guy. Like he's a lot older. He's a major legend.
I mean, Pete Rose, like one of the greatest baseball
players ever, and he's just in there, Oh, Hey, what's up.
And I didn't really know what to say, And you know,
he was friendly. I mean Alex I knew what to
say to, like Alex Rodriguez, who just rolls up and
talks to anybody. He's just outgoing super But like we're
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talking about Pete Rose. Now he's a little before my time.
He's like a seventies big red machine guy. So I'm
sure Cowherd today is gonna like, you know, wax poetic
about Pete Rose because of one of the stars of
his youth. But one of the stars of my youth
would be like Kendriffy Junior, Don Maddingly, you know that
that kind of player. I don't really recall Pete Rose
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as a player. It was just you know, I'm sure
he played in the eighties, but it's just mostly his
his prime was before my time, and just being in
his orbit, you know, is is it?
Speaker 3 (26:55):
He's an interesting character.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
You just look at him and you're like, man, I
mean that guys the all time hits leader in the
history of baseball. And again, I know it's one thing
to say it, but then to be around him and
oh wow, interesting and he you know, he's a very
outspoken guy. And I don't know, I'm not like one
of these in awe of people, but there's been a
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few at Fox, and Pete Rose was one of them.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
I think I told the story. Mike Vick was another one.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
I walked in, you know, we were sharing like a
dressing room, and I knock and open the door and
Mike Vic say Hey, what's up. And it's just like
me and Mike Vick in a room, and I'm like,
oh my god, Michael Vick, Like I've played video games
as Vic, I've watched his games, I covered them as
a journalist. He's obviously been through a lot. And it's like,
Oh my god, that I'm on my fantasy football team.
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Like what he said to Mike Vick, he was very calm, cool,
very friendly, but like, I don't know. It just Pete
Rose like a true icon in baseball, and I'm sure
people are gonna go ape shit here about should he
get into the Hall of Fame and all this, But like,
I don't know, it's been a weird what is it
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seventy two hours, I guess in deaths, apparently these celebrity
deaths coming through. So Chris Christofferson, a longtime actor, passed away.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
I think it was Sunday.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
And then you had de Kembe Mutumbo, oh my gosh,
passing away Monday morning from brain cancer at the age
of I think fifty eight. Folks that I don't It
was like one of the Mutumbo news Rob was one
of those where I was driving and then I get
a text not Mutumbo, and I'm like, you know, my
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first thought, Mutumbo is the finger wag and like rejection,
and like, you know, you get rejected like by women
like Mutumbo, like at a club, you know you're hitting
on girls. You got the Mutumbo. I'm sure you guys
have said that to your buddies, but like, I didn't
know what not Mutumbo meant. So then you know, I'm
gonna stop light. I look on social media and I
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see Mutumbo's passes away at fifty eight, and I'm like,
damn Matumbo again. I grew up in the DC area
and Mutumbo was at Georgetown with Alonzo warning just ma
Tumbo just easy guy to root for, you know. And
then he goes to the NBA and he was on
that Denver Nuggets team that as an eighth seed. I
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think they took down Seattle. Rob you can check me
on that one, yep. And Matumbo's like laying on the
ground clutching the basketball, I think crying, but just it
was awesome. That was like an iconic moment. And I
don't know, man, it's a it's a tough start to
the week for passings in sports, but yeah, I was
a big Mutumbo fan. I mean, the guy's just shot
blocking legend and the finger wag. He's been in so
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many good commercials, you know, by all accounts, a great
ambassador to basketball around the world.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
And I saw a.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Video of the GM of the Raptors, massai U Ziri
like crying talking about Mutumbo and what he's done in
Africa for basketball and just humans. So it's just it's
just sucks to lose, you know, a guy at fifty
eight years old as young man. Hey, you never know
how much time he got left, guys, but you got
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to enjoy every moment, right. That's a bit of a
somber note to wrap up the podcast, But we'll be
back tomorrow. We have a good interview coming up NFL
Guy gambling.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Guys, should be fun. We'll talk to you then,