The Fellas with Anthony Gargano & Jason Fitz discuss MLB Postseason, NFL Week 5 Matchups & which MLB mascot is annoying?

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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As we connect with the MLB playoffs, first the v
walkcard round and now we begin the division series, which
is a lot of fun, lots of football to get
to with college. It's a little late bit late kind
of week in college. But Chris never sleeps in the NFL.

(01:01):
And I know my man fits he's pulling his hair
out because of those Raiders.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Good morning, my brother.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
Oh it's a double whammy. It's a double whaming, my brother.
Not only am I pulling my hair out over the Raiders,
and I have plenty to say about that, especially with
Raiders fans and my mentions about some quotes this week,
but also it just hurt U and l be lost,
like in a world where you know you don't like
the new committee. Everybody says, oh, one game doesn't matter
for the group of five. It does. Like I've been

(01:28):
sitting here all week saying, hey, U and L He's
got a clear path to the college football playoff. All
they got to do was beat Boise State. And now
that Dago lost to Syracuse in home and overtime in
a game that broke my heart and kept me up
too late before I got to get up and do radio,
and all of a sudden, now it feels like this
guy's falling. Now. Even if you beat Boise State might
not be enough. You got to be the highest ranked
group of five team to get in. You don't have

(01:48):
wiggle room if you're in the group of five. So
it's you know, it's just I'm not having a good
week so far. I'm having a good week because I'm
talking to you. But the sports guys are definitely they're
they're tinkling my wheedies right now, like that nobody's.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Giving me what I want.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
Yeah, well, I mean that was tough, man, you know,
And it's amazing. The kids come in after the whole
quarterback drama, right, the kids come back in and he
looks good, you know. I mean, you played well two
weeks right, and last night you're down fourteen to nothing,
and then they just come storming back. They to actually

(02:26):
go up twenty one to fourteen. They're up by touchdown
late before the Q's forces overtime. And that was actually
a really entertaining game.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
Yeah, it was. It was a fun game. And the
one thing I got to say, especially with this this
current coaching staff U and LV plays fun football. For
everybody that hasn't watched, which is most of you, I
get it. They play fun football. They play an interesting
offense that runs a ball a bunch, but it's a high,
high tempo, upspeed offense. The way they do it, it's
a fun team to watch. But you just felt like, man,

(02:59):
from the outside of this game, it felt like maybe
they just weren't as locked in as that they need
to be. And like I said, it's funny because next
you mentioned it's a light week in college football, the
next two weekends are some of the biggest games I
think we've ever seen. Talk about matchups we're not used
to seeing. We get them the next couple of weekends.
So like it's just a reminder that there are always

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going to be the haves and the have nots in
what the standard is in the college football season. Because certainly,
Georgia can lose the game, it's fine. Georgia can probably
lose two games and still make the college football Playoff,
it's fine. But if you're a program like Boise or
UNLV or Memphis, you're one of these teams that's trying
to make sure that the Committee recognizes you. Because the
Committee still matters in this you got to be the
highest ranked for them. There's there's no wiggle room at all. Now. Now,

(03:45):
all of a sudden, UNLV is living the college football
life that we remember we've lived not that long ago,
where now you're looking at the rest of your opponents
and the rest of the people you're up against in
the conversation and saying, God, I hope somebody else slips
up and takes a loss too, like you no longer
control your own destiny. It does still exist in college football,
but it's kind.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Of cool that it exists still in this manner. Right
Otherwise UNLV would be you know, rendered meaningless.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
No right.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
If it's the old, if it's you all, well, they
got no chance anyway. So, but at least now there
is a path to the playoff.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
You're a thousand percent right. I will say this until
I'm blue in the face. I think for all the
people that get off my lawn, I hate the new
college football world. The one thing I'll say is if
you are a school and I don't care if we're
talking about Nashville Auto Diesel College, if you're a school
that can raise money, that wants to put the money
together that cause you like if you if you can

(04:45):
spend it, man, you can build it. And it's that simple.
If you can, if you can find a way to
get hot, then, however you do that you have a
chance at the college football playoff, and that that doesn't
exist in any other sport at this point, like college basketball.
Well there would be your only argument that you have
a chance at making the tournament, But how many of
the schools that make the tournament actually have a chance

(05:07):
at winning the championship?

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Right?

Speaker 4 (05:08):
Like I feel like in college football now everybody has
a chance of at least getting themselves in the dance,
and there's only twelve teams there. So it feels like
this is great for college football because I'm sitting here
talking about UNLV on a Saturday morning in the middle
of fall. That would not happen otherwise.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Dude, I know it's so funny man, you know, and
you're right. You know, you're one hundred percent right when
it comes to it. Man, I I love the new
format in so many ways I do. I love it,
and if it's funny, I told you before that I'd

(05:45):
like to run my own program. I'm going to do
a WOJE, but instead of running basketball, I would run
my own football program.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
So whether if I have.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
To get some wealthy dude to start cause you or
you know, take over a small program and get all
the big money, Let's go, man, let's build this thing.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
All right.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
It's look, I'm going to start a petition to make
you and our good friend Kevin Na Gandhi co g
ems of Temple just because it feels like, you know,
my two Temple guys in my life. So uh, you know,
I like that. I like that cot, I love cousin
running a program. But the funny thing and look you all.

Speaker 5 (06:21):
Like.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
I was talking to keV yesterday, I'd probably talked with him,
you know, three days a week.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
It is funny we talk about you too.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
It's he's just he's a great human.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
He's the best.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
But the funny thing I had a great interview.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
With with Milroe this week. Oh really yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
So it's it's interesting because as we sit here now
talking about the college football playoff right out of the gates,
the one thing that hits me is that last week
we watched an epic ending to a game that looked
like it was going to be a blowout between Alabama
and Georgia. And the funny thing is, for everyone that said, well,
regular season games won't have the same meaning, sure felt

(07:03):
like it did on Saturday.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Night, right, Yeah, felt like you did on Urday morning.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
Sure felt like it did Monday morning. Here we said
a week later, and if you're a Georgia fan or
a Bama fan, you're still feeling it all the way
in your bones. Like the concept that the actual outcome
will be reduced because of a college football playoff hasn't
really felt that way. And now you know, even the
concept of well what if we end up seeing these
teams play each other three times? If I can get

(07:28):
that Alabama Georgia ending three times, I would take it,
But not for nothing without divisions there's a chance. Now,
you know, Georgia is doing the same thing UNLV is
doing right, They're chasing their way back into the SEC
championship conversation because now Texas has got to lose a
game or Bama's got to lose a game. You know,
you feel you can't tell me that, even though there's
a college football playoff that's expanded, you can't tell me

(07:49):
that Ole Miss isn't feeling rocked to their core after
watching that team find a way to lose a game
last Saturday. So you know, this is the first year
that we've lived in this and all of the fears
that I think everybody had when they started this whole
expansion conversation so far are not true.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
No, Now I actually think it's perfect. You know, I
love it. I absolutely love it.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Man, you just brought up a couple of things we
got to talk about.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
Oh miss my god, dude, that was a horrible loss.
Horrible and seriously, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Uh I'm very happy for my man. Chuck. Southside Chuck.

Speaker 4 (08:39):
Oh, Southside Chuck has been telling us not to sleep
on he.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Is just dude.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
Every week, he said, you know, he's like he wasn't
a fluke to Georgia. Now they played Georgia. He's like, dude, that.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Defense is really really good. Trust for me.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
I mean, Southside Chuck's one of the best, great listener,
he's a great sportsman, big horse guy. And yeah, I
mean and he was saying it and he said they're
real and they were real. They were that defense. No joke, man,
no joke.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
Well, and and if we're gonna be honest in the
chess match of football, if you got one guy on
one side, Lane Kiffin and one guy on the other side,
Mark Stoops, the head coach of Kentucky Football taking each
other on, like Stoops out Coach Kiffin, Like kiffn got stooped.
We're gonna make that like you just got stooped by Kentucky,
because I'm telling you, like there's there are certain guys

(09:34):
that are just dialing up defenses that are making the
other team feel confused from the outset. And that was
all Miss, like Jackson Dart gotta be better. Part of
the reason that coming into the season, my National Championship
Game prediction for Yahoo Sports was Ole Miss versus Organ
because I love chaos and because it just feels like
this year needed chaos, but also because I like a

(09:56):
quarterback and a coach that have been together for a minute.
You got one game. I want somebody that you know.
I want two guys that know each other. And I
was watching that game thinking, man like Jackson Dart and
Lane Kiven didn't feel like they were even remotely on
the same page in this game. And that's man, that's concerning.
If I'm if I'm an old miss fan, you can't
get run out of the building from a coaching standpoint

(10:18):
and an execution standpoint from Kentucky. And you know it's
outside Chuck. I'm not saying that because it's Kentucky. I'm
saying that because if you're supposed to be the number
five team and all the land at the time, you
gotta be able to beat I will I will, I
will plant the flag and tie on the hill that
this is the year. I will not accept excuses from
the elite programs struggling against So if Ohio State struggles

(10:39):
against Iowa, that shame on them, Like you gotta beat Iowa,
you gotta beat Kentucky. If you're gonna be one of
the best of the best, I got to beating these
teams it's just it's it's simple that way.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yeah, no, you can't. You can't lose that game.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
You can't if you're all miss and you spend all
that money and you're you're thrust into the know the
operational line, the elites.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
There's no way in the world you could lose that game.
And he did. He got he he got our coach. Baby.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
I mean, listen, that Kentucky defense, like we just said,
and like Chuck said, is no joke. But you can't.
You're all miss man, you can't. You just can't lose. Yeah,
bag lows.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
But also maybe just because I got south Side Chuck
on the mind. But kudos to Kentucky, because I really
did walk away from that game saying, man, like my
first probio, like my first radio gig was in Nashville,
you know, on the one or two five of the
game on Nashville, doing the morning show for a year
before I moved over to ESPN. And the funny thing

(11:44):
is that's not that long ago. You know, I'm somebody
that grew up essentially, you know, twenty plus years in
Nashville as a kid or as a you know, a
young adult. I should say the funny thing is I
remember when Kentucky football was meaningless, right, Like nobody cared
about Kentucky football. And there's a lot of people in
the Nashville area that grew up falls Falls football fans

(12:06):
because Kentucky football was useless, and then Kentucky basketball fan
because Tennessee basketball was useless for years. And it's amazing
to see how Kentucky went in years ago and said,
all right, we're gonna invest in this coach, we're gonna
invest in these facilities, we're gonna build something here that
works for us. And they've done it, like Kentucky every
single year puts up a good football team, not a

(12:28):
great like Kentucky at this point is a modern like
the modern version of Kentucky is very similar to Michigan
State to me, Like, they're gonna be a team that
every year, you know, wins eight games. You know, they're
gonna have to find the right guy always. They've got
Stoops is that guy. But they're always gonna be a
team that wins eight nine games, and they're gonna be
really good. Like they're not gonna be world beating playoff

(12:49):
teams every year, but they're gonna be a good consistent
program that can beat you.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
So let's get to let's get to the Georgia game.
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
First of all, Milroe is ridiculous, dude, he is so good.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
It was funny.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Did you see what Saban said about Melroe? So you
remember last year when he took that leap forward? Yes,
you know, we were all like, you know, early, struggled early,
he said, we realized that he was that good, and

(13:31):
instead of trying to fit him into their system, he
adapted the whole offense around.

Speaker 6 (13:38):
Him, which I think is but brilliant coaching, by the way, right,
just brilliant coaching, and it just show you the level
of talent that that kid has.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
My god, he's so good. But man, what a game. Man.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
I don't know about you, but I was so close
to Balin in that game. I was just like, you know,
I mean, it's all you know, George's getting run off
the field. What a unbelieva will come back. I mean,
the whole thing was just great theater.

Speaker 4 (14:12):
So one of the shows I host are I'm part
of for Yahoo Sports is the College Football Power Hour,
And every Saturday night, at the end of the Big
Game on Saturday, we tape an hour podcast that reacts
to the big games, all the big games, and so
we have a group text going out and you know
a little inside baseball here, but we have a group

(14:33):
text going out and sometimes if the big games a blowout,
we just start the show, you know. And what we
do is we don't reference the final score. We just
tell the story of the game. That way, we can
get ahead of it because you know, they got to
edit and it keeps our producers up all night. So
we had a group text going out and early in
the fourth quarter, we're like, let's just let's just start
this thing. Story of the game is obviously Alabama's complete

(14:55):
domination of Georgia. It's fine, we can start. So we
taped the first twenty minute segment, and as we finished
the twenty minute segment, because I got the TV in
my office here, we finished the twenty minute segment, I
was like, guys, I think we might need to stop
and let this game finish. And we watched the end
of that game together on Zoom. While we were pausing

(15:16):
the recording, had to go back in and re record
the entire open because the story changed so much. You know,
I think this is this was a incredibly gutsy effort
by Georgia to get back in the game, and they
can take something forward from that. Carson Beck was as
good in the end as he was bad in the beginning.
They could take something from that. But I will say this,
and I will say loudly, I think Jalen Molroe, the

(15:38):
ascension of Jalen Molroe, who you just mentioned, is as
big a part of the story as the win for
Alabama was. You're talking about somebody man that has leaned out,
that looks even faster, like, his footwork looks even better,
his ball placement is absolutely stellar, and you are watching
and I think this is in a copycat world. We
are watching everybody will start a sessing over Jalen Milroe

(16:01):
the way they did over Jad and Daniels last year.
We are watching this, this thing that has clicked in
this ascension, and man, was I cannot scream loud enough
how wrong I was about Kayln d Boor. I thought
it was going to take a minute for him to
really click into Alabama, and de Bor has done it.
Just a beautiful job of bringing the best out in
Jaln Milroe from day one. Look, I think it's not

(16:25):
hyperbole here, Like in a quarterback obsessed NFL, you can't
tell me that quin yours and Jaln Milroe aren't becoming
this thing that we're going to be by April, it's
going to be, Oh my god, who's going one? Who's
going to? Who are we trading up for? And Jalen
Milroe absolutely looks like a beast. I mean looks like
right now, NFL fans are salivating because there is a

(16:47):
finally there's a couple of quarterbacks that look like it's
worth sucking for this year to try and get next year.
And I didn't think that would be the case at all.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
Yeah. Now, no, dude, without a doubt. He's he's all
that that. He's the truth. That kid, He's he. It's
funny because he's Lamar as a better thrower.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
He you know, even even like at his age, more
polished as a thrower, Uh, the same Lamar phantom skills. Right,
He's like a phantom sometimes like you think you got
him and you're tackling air.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
He's he's that. He's that legit to Boor.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
It's interesting I was talking to When I was just
telling that, I was talking to Kevin Gandi buddy, and
we were talking about just how creative he is offense,
like his offense is, and how it's just it's given
mill Row like an even other dimension, like he's he's
a brilliant, brilliant offensive mind you like, and you could

(17:52):
see it with it, like how this whole thing has
played out with him.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
I really thought part of the issue to Bor was
gonna have is that so much of his success at
Washington came with the quarterback that knew his system and
veteran wide receivers, And the question is how quickly can
you assimilate a new group into that. You know, I
stand by the math, Like I always say that our
job sometimes is to be like in high school, when
you couldn't just write the answer, you had to show
how you got the answer. Stand by how I got

(18:19):
the answer on that. What I didn't anticipate is how
having the right voice with Jalen and Jalen being at
a point where obviously he is just soaking this in
like a sponge. I just think one of the things
that makes Jaden special at the next level is that
he's a pastor that happens to also be the best
runner on the field. Right, But he is not just

(18:40):
a running quarterback. Jaden Daniels is a passing quarterback that
also can outrun everybody. Jaylen Milroy was turning into that man,
and it is it is special to watch him, watch
his entire body shift as he goes through reads like
it's sometimes you don't know is a quarterback looking offers
a quarterback going through reads? You watch Jalen, it's like, nope,
you know, you see what he is doing, and God,

(19:00):
it is just man, I it is special to watch.
And I you know, I'll say again, I was wrong.
I was wrong about what Alabama would look like this year.
I was wrong about the boor, I was wrong about
all of it. And I think this was one of
those statement wins that really Jettison's Alabama for the next Like,
if you're Kirby Smart and Georgia, you couldn't beat Alabama
in this what should be air quotes transition here, Man,

(19:22):
you just gave fuel to the beast of Alabama and
oh yeah's gonna be dangerous for the future.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
Oh yeah, just in a side is every kid in
America named either Janen, Jalen or Jackson?

Speaker 4 (19:40):
God whatever happened to just Mark?

Speaker 3 (19:43):
It's a steric, right, I Like, you know, it's funny
being with the youth sports.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Every kid I know is Jane, Jalen or Jackson.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
And then I look up and like, you know, there's
incredible Jaialen's incredible, Jaden's every Every young baseball player is
named Jackson, Jackson, Merril Jackson. The Padres have three of them, right,
the Orioles have a couple.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
It's hysterical.

Speaker 4 (20:15):
Anyway, if your name that, by the way, you got
to be an athlete. Like, ain't never been a fiddle
player named Jayden. Just doesn't. It just doesn't work right,
Like never like fiddle player named Jackson doesn't really no, No,
if you're if you're Jackson, well you are the coolest
kid in ninth grade ever, Like that's just that name
just applies to I'm a cool like tenth grade, Like

(20:35):
I'm the coolest kid in the sophomore class. That's Jackson.
That's Jayden for sure.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
Uh so's Jason.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
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Speaker 2 (20:50):
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Speaker 2 (21:05):
All Right, fellas from the.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
Tai Iraq dot com studios. All right, lots to get to.
All Right, I gotta ask you about baseball, dude, you
got to indulge me. All right, you gotta indulge me.
Today's big day in baseball, and it's a late week
in college football, and I want to see if I

(21:30):
want to get you to watch some baseball. But first
let's find out what's.

Speaker 8 (21:36):
Trending college football. On Friday night, we had number six
Oregon moving to six and oh as they put on
a clinic against Michigan State. The Duck's winning it in
convincing fashion, thirty one to ten. Dylan Gabriel three total

(21:56):
touchdowns on the day, two of them coming through the air.
Jordan James one hundred and sixty six yards and a touchdown.
So the Ducks, now in their first season as a
member of the Big Ten, now find themselves at two
to zero in conference play. Twenty fifth ranked U n
l V sees their perfect season to come to an end.

Speaker 4 (22:16):
Cuvey formation, mang and Valari are left in the gun.

Speaker 7 (22:19):
The snap is taken Gibdon, the Quinn Hammers at the
en zone on second effort.

Speaker 4 (22:23):
No, he stood up.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
Now we fighty gimes.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
In jack Pott with Quinn Allen.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
Jack Pott in Vegas, his fourth touchdown of the game
lips the Orange to victory.

Speaker 8 (22:33):
That was the Syracuse Sports Network from lear Field, the
Orange winning at forty four forty one in over a time,
handing the Rebels their first loss in Syracuse. For their part,
are now four and one on the season, so we'll
see if they sniff the top twenty five rankings when
they're released next week. And Houston and TCU the Cougars
winning this one thirty to nineteen. The horn Frogs one

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and two in the Big Twelve, just two years after
they were national runners up in the WNBA playoffs. The
Las Vegas Aces stay alive. They beat the New York
Liberty ninety five eighty one. Aja Wilson a double double
nineteen points, fourteen rebounds, Breonna Stewart nineteen points for New York.
In the Las An Minnesota gets by Connecticut ninety to
eighty one. The Links ahead in that series two games

(23:17):
to one. Major League Baseball the Division Series in both
leagues beginning on Saturday, man the Padres suffering a big blow.
Joe Muskove had to leave Wednesday's Game two of the
Wildcard Round against the Braves with discomfort in his elbow,
and San Diego getting the worst possible news is Musgrove
gonna need Tommy John surgery on his elbow. So he

(23:40):
has done for the playoffs very well. Could miss all
of twenty twenty five as well. The Met's gonna start
Code I Singa in Saturday is Game one of the
National League Division Series against the Philadelphia Phillies.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Back with you guys, all right, thank you, buddy. We
appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
Uh, we got lots to do here, all right. There's
a lot of a lot of football, a lot of stuff.
Are you with me?

Speaker 4 (24:09):
Man?

Speaker 2 (24:10):
My brother? Are you gonna watch some baseball?

Speaker 4 (24:14):
Look? And you' all know, if you're new to the show,
I am not a seamhead. Hell, I didn't even really
know the term seam head until the boys taught it
to me. So like that shows you where I am.
But I'll say this so far. I mean watching Milwaukee implode,
which you know I watched was exciting. No, sorry, Milwaukee fans.
And the concept that we are like we know that

(24:35):
playoffs are where legends are made. We know that, and
we're watching, you know, maybe the single greatest moment most
of us will see in sports ever with Otani, right, Like,
we're watching something that we're not going to see again.
So to see that in the postseason, Yeah, I'm I'm
actually amped. I am beyond pumped. I feel like I
told my buddy this the other night, I feel like

(24:55):
every time Otani is up to bat during the postseason
has that same resonating cut in that they had during
the McGuire so so home run derby. Like this is
just that moment of like, let's all watch what happens
when the magic unfolds with a generational, iconic player that
is doing something we may never see again. So I just, yes,
I think there is something special. I know, you know,

(25:17):
special for the Phillies, for you, but special in general
for this playoff run. It does feel like this is
this one just hits a little bit different, It hits
a little harder, it means a little more this process.
So yeah, I'm actually and I cannot believe I'm saying this,
my friend, I am wildly excited for what we're about
to see.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
Well, I mean, we saw an incredible week. I mean,
did you watch the curatesy did you see the Mets game?
I mean, I know the football game is going on.
The Alonso home run, I mean you know, I mean that.
I mean that's what October it's interesting, right, like football is.

(25:55):
We love football, right, So it's just it's always great.
It never changed. Is every game you must see. But
baseball it takes an such a dramatic change. As great
as hockey playoffs are, Hockey still exciting, like the game
still fast, it moves right. Baseball, damn man. I mean

(26:20):
it's so different from regular season to October. It just
it morphs into like this drama filled game where pitch
by pitch matters. It's, you know, part like chess match
and strategy, and it's got these incredible moments. I mean

(26:42):
what we saw this week, Tigers winning right, taking out
to Houston, and the Mets, you know, with the thrilling
home run.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Comebacks and all. I mean it's pretty special.

Speaker 4 (26:55):
So yes, everything you just said like it it feels
electric enough to that I actually looked at a buddy
the other night, sitting at a bar. I was drinking
my non alcoholic athletic by the way check it out.
That's great beer coming up.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
The journey updates common.

Speaker 4 (27:09):
Yeah, I mean it's it's it's we're on tracker, let's go.
But I was watching the other night and I said, man,
we should get a group together and try and hit
a Mets playoff game, which I think we're gonna try
and do. Like there's an element, like a hard ticket
to get I get, but like there's just an element
of all of this. It feels different to me and
the Tigers. The fact that it was the Tigers who
were doing this incredible thing right now, you know, like

(27:31):
the concept of is Detroit a sports city now because
of the dominance of the Lions, And now the Tigers
go through this like renaissance. We see this beautiful moment
and they take down the Astros, who are still maybe
the most hated team in all the sports. I wonder
when we will never forget. But I wonder when we
just stop obsessing over the fact that the Astros cheated

(27:53):
years ago. I don't know, maybe we never do. But
it is funny to me how every time Houston loses,
I feels like it feels like there's this breath of
you know, the sigh of relief from fans all over
the country. They're like, oh, finally the Astros lost. You know,
I just for the Tigers to be you know, this
this sort of same vibe of America's team taking down

(28:13):
the villains of all of this in Houston. It's just
it just the matchups feel juicier, they feel spicier this year.
It feels like there's more drama to sit there and
lock into the fact that we get the Dodgers and
the Padres.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
Oh my god, you got holy wars on the West
Coast and East Coast.

Speaker 4 (28:30):
Yes, exactly what we want.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
Yeah, I mean you get you know, separated by you know,
two and a half hours in you know, and on
the West Coast and you know two hours an hour
and fifty five minutes and on the East Coast.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
I mean, it's it's incredible.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
I mean, division rivals, hot teams. I mean, the way
the Padres celebrate the game me that atmosphere is ridiculous
in San Diego. And by the way, San Diego and
I'm gonna you know, I'm an seamhead. San Diego is

(29:11):
really really good. I mean, I think they're better than
the Dodgers. And it's not a hot take or anything.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
They really are. They're that good. They're as of now.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
Now Musgrove's a lost, he's gotta have Tommy John.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
But I mean they still they still, They're still deep
in their rotation.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
They have the lineup that really gels, and they have
the best bullpen. And that's the problem with Dodgers is
the pitching. We know how good the lineup is, but
the pitching is thin. They've had a lot of injuries,
and their bullpen's not that good. Padre's bullpen's ridiculous. I mean,
quite frankly, I think that they're probably the best team

(29:52):
in the National League. I think the Phillies are right there,
and then Dodgers, who had the best record, I think third.

Speaker 4 (30:02):
And this is sort of the long term payoff of
the money invested. What four years ago, five years or like.
Everything changed for the Padres a few years ago when
they went all in on spending a bunch of money,
bringing in some big names, and the concept then was
what do they have to do to make it worth it?
And I think we'll get the answer to it now.
Right Like, either way with the Dodgers Padres series, it

(30:25):
feels like we get stars. It feels like we get
sort of national conversation and I can't believe we say
that about the Padres, But that's part of the change
that happened then, you know, and you mentioned that bullpen,
and this is not some big hot take. You don't
have to be a seam head to know that pitching
is everything and the management of the pitchers is everything
in the playoffs. The fact that they have depth in
the bullpend just gives them opportunity every single game to

(30:47):
make it mucky and get their way through it. Like
this isn't the baseball of old, And I say baseball
of old, it is like not even ten years ago.
If you had, you know, three starting pitchers that could
rotate through and get you through, your gonna win a
series New analytics baseball. If you've got a deep bullpen,
even if your starting rotation is met comparatively, you will
win these games.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
You know.

Speaker 4 (31:08):
So Yeah, because I think it's interesting.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
Yeah, you shorten the game and you become a if
you make it a six INNY game, you're starting to
go six innings. Yeah, you got a real shot. And
you know, patricks are fascinating because to your point, you know,
they went all in big investments, spent a lot of money,
and it really didn't feel like a team. They felt

(31:33):
more individuals. And then they trade Sosa and the trade
works out for both teams and Soto excuse me, so so,
so they trade Sodo the trade works out for both teams.
Michael King is electric, I mean absolutely. The other night
he put on the performance that was just unbelievable. I mean,

(31:53):
his his stuff. He's one of the best young pitchers
in the game. His stuff is absurdly ridiculous, so hard
to pick up. But now you know, they added a
rise to their leadoff guy who just hits right, just
gets on base.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
They have a kid who I love this kid.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
He's a Jackson Jackson Merrill, who plays center field or
a center field.

Speaker 4 (32:20):
Can't it?

Speaker 3 (32:21):
Yeah, no, it's unbelievable. Dude, twenty years old. He was
a shortstop. They had a shortstop and they go, well,
we need you to play the outfield, so they moved
him to the airtfield and he's.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Stut, like, just stut. He is such a good hitter.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
So you know, uh, Max Free started for the Braves
the other night, who's a tough lefty, and Merrill, who's
left handed, one of the greatest pieces of hitting that
I've seen. And as a young player, when you're facing
power lefties, tough lefties, you have to keep the ball

(33:01):
middle to opposite field. So from a lefty center field
to left and the closer you get to center, you know,
that's the best best piece of hitting. And he hain't
won dead center field to the off the base of
the wall for a triple. It was some of the

(33:23):
great greatest hitting I've seen.

Speaker 4 (33:27):
It's how do you feel about the Phillies, Like, I
know we're up against you feel about Phillies?

Speaker 3 (33:32):
Yeah, I'm waiting with baited breath until four oh eight
on Fox Today. Man, no, I mean if Phills are good.
I mean I grew up in Philadelphia. I grew up
loving the Phillies, and they're they're really good. They have
a they have another. They go five deep in the bullpen,

(33:53):
so they're really good in the bullpen. They have a
really good rotation, and you know, they got stars, so Schwarber,
Bryce Harper's ridiculous. So they're poised to make a run there.
I think they'll beat the Mets. I'm not I'm not worried.
I mean, it's it's kind of like hot versus got right.
It's you know, the Mets, magic versus the reality of

(34:18):
the the Phil's stars. It's a it's pretty interesting hashtag
o MG versus hashtag s T f U. I wrote
that today yesterday. Yeah, so you know, we're having some fun.
Uh lots to get to where the Fellas. I need

(34:41):
my my fits. The update coming up next, and uh
we'll get to you know, a lot of baseball, but
of course all the football.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Where the Fellas right here?

Speaker 3 (34:48):
Fox Sports Radio, all right, welcome back from the tire
rack dot com studios, Where the Fellas. Jason Fitz Anthony Gargant.
All right, my man, I gotta get to There's two
things that uh, I want to get to this segment.

(35:08):
But the first one is about the inspiration, because the
fitzis is an inspirational dude. What he's done to transform himself.
He wanted to change, and he's put in some hard work,
really hard work.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
So I need my update.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
Let me hear it, this journey update.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
I love that cousin update.

Speaker 4 (35:39):
Let me tell you something I have said for a
long time that this process, this journey, you know, has
been fairly easy. All I have to do is eat
the same things five times a day and go to
the gym. And go to the gym. Isn't that big
a deal. It's like, you know, an hour out of
my day and I go and I work my tailor.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
But to eat the same thing every day and to
deny yourself all the joys and pleasures of life is
a lot of sacrifice.

Speaker 4 (36:04):
Well, I appreciate that. But this week things changed. It
got really hard. This is the first week that I've
ever looked around and thought I have lost my damn mind.
Because I'm telling you, like my trainer who does everything
in this app so like you know, he loads workouts in,
he tells me what like my macros are, my calories
and everything, they change all the time. He every week
goes in, he tweaks things right, like make sure everything's great.

(36:27):
There was change made now last week, on this last week,
on Monday, I went down with friend to peloton in
New York. I went to the studio. I haven't been
on a bike. I'm telling you, I haven't even sat
on a bike of any sort probably two years. Haven't
been on a peloton at all. But they do some
in studio classes. So I was like I'm gonna go
do I'm gonna go do my peloton. I'm gonna get
my peloton on right. So go into the city and

(36:49):
I'm in the studio for one of those live like
you're live, You're on a camera, can't you can't stop? Right?
So I had leg day on Sunday and Monday, I'm
in the city on a bike. But you know, I'm
in the best shape my life. So I hit all
the prs, a lot of records, felt really good about that,
got off the bike, and the minute I got unclipped
from the bike from this thirty minute class, you would

(37:09):
have thought that I was walking on to like jell
O pudding pops, because like there was nothing my legs said,
nothing left. So the next day trainer hits me up,
get sends me up, and he's like, hey man, we're
ready to amp up some things. So my little workout,
we added a set to everyone of a rep I
should say to every one of the sets, which now
takes that forty five minute workout, makes it a little

(37:29):
over an hour. And then we changed cardio finally, Like
I've been waiting for cardio for months, I've been waiting
for the officer now I get to do sprints every day,
which is like this great stress relief. And I felt
great about it. But then he hit me with the
real deal. He said, like, hey, after we finished the sprints,
we're getting up on a stair machine and we're gonna
spend ten minutes on the stair machine at the highest

(37:49):
level you can handle. You have no idea when you've
done leg day followed black peloton for the first time
in years, and then all of a sudden, I did
sixty three flights of stairs the next day. Like I'm
telling you, like I'm trying to walk up and down
the stairs, just take care of the dog, and all
of a sudden, like my legs are falling out from
under me. And I gotta do that every day now.
So yesterday and the gym was the first time because

(38:11):
I had had a poll day followed by it. Like
I was like, I need to get the core in.
Guess I do that twice a week. So I got
the core in and then I went to the card
You I was in the gym for an hour and
forty minutes. That's a long time, man, Like my little
old bird legs shaken on me. I like I realized
this is the journey to abs, my friend. But like,
by God, like my legs gotta survive for me to
be able to get abs. What are we doing?

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Nothing worse than when they start shaking on their own.
You're going, oh, man.

Speaker 4 (38:40):
I got used to this leg here look yeah, a
light shit. And this is no exaggeration. The first time,
the first workout he gave me, I had to do
weighted lunges right, and I couldn't do it. I couldn't
put anyway I did. I couldn't put any I had
to use body weight only and I could only do
five lunges on each leg because my legs are tiny
and they're they're weak and my hips are really tight.
I know this, and I got five. Five on each

(39:02):
leg was all I could do. And now I do
you know, I do ten on these leg like I'm
supposed to, and I do it with twenty five pounds
in each chance. So I'm doing fifty pounds while I'm
doing these weighted lunch It's like I'm used to my
legs shaking.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
That's all.

Speaker 4 (39:14):
Like good, God likes stars hit different, brother steers hit different.
Everything hurts.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
Everything hurts, Yeah, because why that's that's awesome, man, Really
inspirationial what you've done. I mean really, when you eating
what you eat, did you do anything spice up anything
for football?

Speaker 4 (39:39):
Not really, I mean this week not No, I'm locked
in until Halloween at this point. Got to look good
for Halloween party.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
Impressive, my brother. Where the fella is right here? Fox
Sports Radio?

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio?

Speaker 2 (39:52):
All right, lots to do a good good good morning.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
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(40:19):
get to the quarterbacks. The weird kind of sea change
with some of the quarterbacks in the NFL. Dare I say,
Sam Donald Cousins throws for five hundred yards Baker Mayfield.

(40:42):
I mean, there's we got to talk about this. There's
something weird going on in the NFL. So we'll get
into some quarterbacks coming up, next segment, next hour, we
go through every game NFL.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
We'll talk then college.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
And of course we'll dive back into Base Paul to
kind of preview all the games for the for the
busy weekend. It's a great October weekend. We love October.
October is underway. I got to ask, though, you, I
don't know if this whole fitness journey is really like
self flagellation because of the being a Raiders fan, there's

(41:26):
an order of priests that believe in suffering, like in
suffering physical harm to the to the body.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
Uh, And I fear that that's you, FITZI look.

Speaker 4 (41:41):
Uh, it is not easy, and it is never easy.
I will never forget years ago, when the NFL Draft
was in Las Vegas. That year, I did a piece
for Match COSSB Mean that I've talked about before where
we did a long form interview but we got tattoos
while we got interviewed, and the whole concept was like,

(42:01):
if we're getting ink, maybe we'll get a more just
sort of relaxed, real connective interview. And I remember at
one point in that interview asking Max or just basically saying, man,
I feel for you because there's been so much chaos
this year, and that was a particularly chaotic year. For
the Raiders, and he laughed and said, this year, man,
there's been chaos every year I've been here, and he's

(42:22):
right at the time, having gone through a relocation and
trying to figure out what was going on in Oakland
and then the firing of Gruden and all of these
things that were happening all at once. It just never ends.
And the funny thing is my mentions, man, are just
being destroyed because I have loudly said this week that
Antonio Pierce needs to be the adult in the room,
and I got Raiders fans just ripping me apart on

(42:44):
Twitter x constantly about not knowing anything, never been in
a locker room, never played, blah blah blah, all the
usual things that people say, and then immediately saying, well,
Davante's the one that's causing all of this because he's
demanding the trade, blah blah blah. I don't care. This
is just at some point point there has to be
an adult in the room, and the coach is always
that person. And to me, I don't care if Davante

(43:06):
went in and requested a trade and called Antonio Pierce's
mom ugly. I don't care what he did at some point,
when you are the coach of a football team, you
no longer are afforded the opportunity to like tweets. You're
no longer afforded the opportunity to say the wrong thing
in front of a microphone. And players have told me
for years that the one thing you don't want to
do is create a question that another player in the

(43:27):
locker room has to answer. So you have to be
careful in front of a microphone to not do that. Well,
your coach has to do that times one hundred. So
I don't care what the chaos is behind the scenes.
I don't care what Davante's asked for. I don't care
what Davante wants. If you're Antonio Pierce, you got rise above.
You are held to a different standard, and that's just
reality when you're a coach, and if you want to

(43:47):
send the message that nobody will be held to a
different standard inside that locker room, you do it another way.
You just and this is another misstep. You can't sit
there and talk about business decisions in front of a microphone.
A week later, come out apologize for saying that and say, hey,
I probably should have just said that to the locker
room and then turn around and like a tweet, how
many times do we gonna forgive a misstep by a coach?

(44:09):
Like you're no longer an interim coach, you are the
head coach of a football team. Yeah, act like it.
And that's totally separate to DeVante. I don't care if DeVante.
I still don't think he's gonna get traded, but I
don't care how it ends up. I think at some
point Antonio Pierce has to learn the lesson that when
you are a coach, there's a reason coach speaks exists.
Like you got to find a way to be real
in your locker room, but also not create questions that

(44:30):
your locker room has to answer.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
That's a great point.

Speaker 4 (44:33):
Man.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
I love Antonio Piers, but man, I you know, again,
it feels like he's swimming a little bit and it
feels like, you know, listen, it's a tough gig, right,
He's a highly charged, highly competitive guy. They're building something there.
They got no quarterback, and you know, this whole mess

(44:55):
comes into it, the receivers of Diva and I, you know,
listen to a point where I kind of understand, but
you know, there's just got to be a way to
go about it. Now you're the coach, and you're a
new coach, you're a young coach, you're fresh off the field.
The thing that we loved about Pierce is that he

(45:15):
was that, you know, so youthful, had that emotional on
the field defense first kind of guy.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
And you know, unfortunately.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
Those older coaches kind of you know, they didn't have
to worry about social media, right like when Andy Andy
Reid came into the league in nineteen ninety nine, he
didn't have to worry about social media and liking tweets,
you know.

Speaker 4 (45:48):
I think and part of this Charles Robinson at Yeah
Who said last week that sometimes when you're a former
player and you're sort of thrust into the job, you
didn't necessarily come up the same way. You some times
forget that you have to have a long term view
of everything. So it's easy for players to think in
the short term. They can say whatever they want in
the moment. They can act however they want in the moment,

(46:09):
because it's a week to week league for players. For coaches,
it's not right for coaches. They gotta have short term
and long term in mind at the same time, which
to me, is part of the reason why Antonio Pierce,
I think smartly brought a bunch of influences and mentors
into the locker room with them. That's why there's thirty
assistant coaches on this staff that are all just some
sort of weird title of you know, advisor, right, Like

(46:29):
they're all sitting there helping him. They need to get
in his ear and just talk to him about how
to handle some of this. And again, this is where
Raiders fans keep killing me because they think I'm taking
DeVante's side, like this has nothing to do. Like two
things can be true at once. DeVante can request to trade,
and then a coach can simply say, fine, that's between
you and Telesco the GM. I'm gonna worry about the

(46:51):
guys that are there, and then you know, comment it.
There's a reason why Belichick was always on to Cincinnati
right like on to Cleveland whatever, Like that's the way
that works for some things. And and I'll say this loudly, Anthony,
like I believe I just called you by the first name.
That feels weird, uh, Like think about this, yeah, exactly,
imagine the sales pitch. This is the only and everybody. Look,

(47:13):
I've talked to all of the insiders. I've talked to
all the people that are plugged in. Everybody tells me
that a trade's gonna happen. It's gonna take time, it's
gonna be complicated, but they're gonna get it done. Here's
the only thing I'd say. And I understand why this
doesn't make logical sense to anybody but me. Imagine walking
into Mark Davis's office and saying, hey, man, we have
one of the best players in the league. He doesn't

(47:34):
want to play here anymore, so we might as well
trade him while we can get something for him and
use that towards the rebuild. Does that not sound eerily
similar to what John Gruden told him regarding Khalil Mack,
and Khalil Mack has done nothing but kicked a snot
out of the Raiders twice a year ever since. If
you're going to Mark Davis, the owner of the team
who has to make a decision on what's gonna happen here,

(47:57):
would have to swallow his pride in his ego, would
have to admit that every dollar that's been spent was
basically for nothing for Devonte. He would also then have
to make the decision to likely either move him to
Aaron Rodgers, who the Raiders chose not to pursue a
couple of years ago, or move him to Derek Carr,
who the Raiders chose to let walk out the room
a couple of years ago. So now you're asking your
billionaire owner to swallow all of that and say, hey,

(48:19):
you know what, it's gonna be worth it because we're
getting a second round pick in the draft, which we'll
either use on an offensive lineman or maybe it'll help
us move up to try and get a quarterback, possibly
if the draft breaks our way next year. Like, how
do you how do you manage that sales pitch in
a way that doesn't make Mark Davis feel like he's
going through insanity all over again. I don't think you can.

(48:39):
And I think that's the under talked about part of
all of this.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
Like they're, yeah, have no choice.

Speaker 4 (48:47):
For a second rounder. I mean, at some point you
just turn around into the market.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
I say, no, an asset.

Speaker 4 (48:53):
A second rounder just isn't an asset to me. Like
we talked about draft picks like it like they matter,
they don't, like it is is a guard in the
second round, which is what they got this year in
the second round was the starting guard who I hope
turns out to be a superstar stud player.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
But it's not sexy, but you need that, Like, listen,
the way you win this league is by hitting on
your second and third round picks and quite often their alignment,
and that you're and that you need to build a foundation,
you know, I mean, the only way you can win

(49:30):
in this league consistently is not with quarterbacks or wide receivers, right,
it's with the trenches. And it sounds cliche and everything else,
but you and the only way to really do it
is to do it through the draft.

Speaker 4 (49:46):
But if you're but if you're doing that, like the
two things, Number one, you got to justify to the
entire group why you didn't do it before the NFL draft,
Because what's changed. The Raiders are two and two, Like
they're not out of this thing, they're two and two.
There's been very little this season that wasn't what we expected.
So what is drastically changed from March to now? So

(50:08):
if you're te LESCo, the first thing you should have
done was dealt him. If you didn't think that you
could figure out a way to keep him here. You
could have dealt him before the draft and got somebody
that would help you right now. That's number one on it.
And number two like, I hear you that you have
to build a un sexy ways and you know that.
I'm a massive fan of that. But you're talking. If
you get rid of Davante, you now have to go

(50:28):
to Max Crosby, who has said all the right things.
Obviously you got to go to Max, he's your hardest
worker and say, hey, I know we're going to waste
another year here, but we're gonna hope to address this
all in the off season. Like now, all of a sudden,
you need a starting quarterback and a wide receiver and
whatever else you need going into next year. And I
realized DeVante's contract. But the other part of it is

(50:48):
cuz think about this. You're trading him for a second rounder.
And according to all the reports, he wants to go
to New Orleans or he wants to go to the Jets,
which makes total sense. So what you're really trading him
for if he goes to one of these places is
a team that's likely with him on it to make
the playoffs. You're trading him for a bottom of the
second rounder. If you tell me you're trading him for
you know, a Hassan Reddick and a player and a

(51:10):
draft pick, okay, if you're getting a building block piece back, okay,
But if you're trading him for a bottom of the
second round pick, that to me, just like we're not
talking even bottom of the first round. You traded him
for a first rounder, I'll look around and say, okay,
that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
But you're not going to get a first round pick
for him. I know you're not going to pick for him.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
And here's the other issue, right, Like you don't want
to Hassan Redick, Like what would you want with a
thirty year old guy who you got to pay?

Speaker 4 (51:40):
You're right about all of that, but at least you're
getting a piece back, Like yeah, but it's.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
A piece that that's going to cost you more than
he's worth. The only thing it's like you because here's
the thing. You gotta go all in on the rebuild.

Speaker 4 (51:55):
Oh, Mark Davis is never going to go all in
on a rebuild ever.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
I mean, you got it.

Speaker 3 (51:59):
It's the only way you get good, The only way
truly get good is to adapt and go all in
on a rebuild. I mean, I know you need a quarterback,
but you need you need, you need to build a line,
a real one.

Speaker 4 (52:13):
The problem is there's there's just enough talent with the
Raiders as they stand right now to win eight games
most years. So if you're looking at Mark Davison telling
him you want to rebuild, and it feels icky saying
this out loud, then you got to trade Max too,
because you like, what's the point by the time you
get through another two or three year rebuild, you're gonna

(52:35):
be in year eight of Max's career, paying him a
ton of money to win how many games? Like, there's
no and there's no way they're doing that. There's absolutely
no way that you can sell a rebuild in a
city too, where you've already got an owner that's frankly
pissed off that every single week the opposing fan base
is taking over the stadium. Now you're gonna sell them that, well,
it's just gonna be really bad for a couple of

(52:56):
years while we try and figure this thing out. I
just I don't think there's any chance what your pitching
there is something that Al Davis never believed in, and
Mark Davis doesn't believe in either.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
So you know, the only reality if you're Marked Davis
believe in fairy tales like you're actually building a team.

Speaker 5 (53:16):
Is.

Speaker 3 (53:17):
It's it's the only way you're warning it's only path
to get good.

Speaker 4 (53:23):
But the other, the flip side of it is you've
got a left tackle that's considered to be amongst the
upper half of the league. You've got a draft pick
and brock Bowers that you believe is going to be
a difference maker. You've got a top three or four
player on the defensive side of the ball. You've got
some pieces you just paid one hundred million dollars jals.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
Singular pieces don't It's not the path to winning. You
need to build units foundational. You need to build foundation units.

Speaker 4 (53:53):
Is if I'm Mark Davis, I'm looking at all of
that and saying we have too many pieces to rebuild
to units like the The easier sell to me is
give me a quarterback somehow, some way, which they tried
to do in the draft this year. I have multiple
people tell me that the Raiders tried aggressively to move
up for Jaden Daniels. That's that, that's real. They just
couldn't get Washington to take anything. They offered a case ransom, and.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
Washington tried to and they couldn't get anybody.

Speaker 4 (54:19):
In, and like so like some years, you're just not
gonna be able to move up. But if you're Mark Davis,
you're looking at and saying, well, my two options are
gut it and then try and rebuild, or just keep
me a quarterback. So I'm looking at my entire organization
and saying, give me a quarterback. Like, I just I
understand what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 3 (54:37):
I don't think the quarterbacks you're fantasyeing right now, I don't.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
I don't think you're ready to win.

Speaker 4 (54:45):
I don't think they're ready to lose enough to be
ready to do what you're saying. I just I hear
you that that's the smart thing to do. I hear
you that a total gutted rebuild is a right.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
Only because only because, like you know, we talked about
the quarterback. They're line and the left tackle is good,
but that line is not good enough.

Speaker 4 (55:06):
I don't disagree with you. I do not disagree with you.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
So you get a quarterback, I mean young quarterback who
what is And by the way, you're already killed you
already killed any chances when you when you didn't pay Kingsbury.
You can give him that third year, yep, which was
a dumbest, dumbest move out there. Kingsbury is legit, legit,

(55:35):
and you see what he's doing.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
Listen.

Speaker 3 (55:37):
Part of it's the tape and then nobody's no tape
on Jane Daniels. Part of it is he's gonna be
a really good quarterback. But a lot of it is coaching.
This is a league of coaches. It's a coaches league.
People crack me up. Oh, it's a players league. Yeah,
maybe in your fantasy football in this but not in
real football. It's a coaches league. Just look at why

(56:03):
you know brock perty is what he is. Look at
the coach. Go to all these stops and look at
the coach. Look who's good. Look how it look, Look
how stuff gets executed. Look at elite offenses and defenses.

(56:24):
But look at motion, look at play design, look all
that stuff, and you'll see coaching.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
You'll see the difference it makes.

Speaker 4 (56:34):
And I agree with everything you just said. And I am,
as you know, as big of Antonio Pierce fan from
the day he was hired as possible. But Also, Mark
Davis is the owner that gave Antonio Perci autonomy to
not find a better offensive coordinator than you know, Luke Keetzi, right,
Like there's just some element here's you're right, like the

(56:55):
offensive coordinator in Chicago versus the offensive coordinator in Washington.
To oversimplify guy is a big deal when you look
at the development early on for Jayden Daniels versus the
development early on for Kleb Williams. Like, I think we
can all agree on some of that, like Seth Waldron
is not somebody that I think has the same creativity
as Cliff Kingsbury. And that's not a hot take, you know.
But all of this, there are two different worlds. There's

(57:18):
the world of what's right and the world of what's possible.
And I just don't think everything you're saying would be
really smart if you could convince Mark Davis to do it.
But what empirical proof do we have we ever had
that Mark Davis is interested in doing it that way
and there is none. So no matter what they should do,
and you know in that process what they will do

(57:41):
is going to be different. And to LESCo Tom till
we Am of the Raiders, has stressed you have to
have a long term view. I just don't know how much.
I don't know how much runway that's gonna have, how
much traction that's gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (57:51):
That's a killer ban. Like I feel bad for you
guys like Raider fans. I mean, you know, I mean,
that's not the path. I keep saying that, but you're
every short cut you take, it's just it's that much
more difficult to win.

Speaker 4 (58:11):
Is it?

Speaker 5 (58:11):
Is it not?

Speaker 4 (58:12):
I'll say quickly, is it not? Also, is this whole
conversation not become more difficult because of the Texans? Like
the minute c J. Stroud hit to this level and
now Jayden Daniels is hitting to this level. Early on,
I think every billionaire owner in the league is going
to just simply say to their team, find me c J. Stroud,
which is like saying find me Dan Marino. It's it's
difficult to find somebody that just comes in and right

(58:34):
away just absolutely crush me.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
But what do they say to Chicago right now? Would
they say Carolina last year.

Speaker 4 (58:42):
Yeah, one hundred percent. But try explaining that to an
irrational billionaire owner.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
Yeah, well, I mean, you know they're delusional.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
That is true, Fu go by the way, you know,
part of the part of what we're saying is that
if you build it correctly, you can win all with
Sam Darnel, Yeah, right, Like, let's discuss that. On the
other side, let's discuss the quarterbacks and now the sea

(59:15):
change in the league, because when you start to run
the football and you start to deploy fullbacks, suddenly you
can have pocket quarterbacks. It's interesting how it's played out.
We'll discuss it the trend. Jason Fitz Anthony Garganta'm hanging
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Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
All right, so I'm dying to talk to have this conversation.
I couldn't wait to discuss it after this weekend, after
Thursday night where we watch Kirk Cousins throw for five honted.

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
Let's just go five haunted, all right. That's how the
old guys used to say in the neighborhood. Five hont it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
He throws for five hundred yards against the Todd Bowles
defense that shut down Jalen Hurts and the Eagles. Right now, granted,
the Davante Smith and the W. A. J. Brown, but
still Kirk Hunts are farming yards. Baker Mayfield has just
been uncanny. I've watched them on Sunday, the previous sun.

(01:01:38):
They carve up the Eagles. This is Sam Darnold remains unbeaten.
What's up with that pocket veteran quarterback. There's a couple
of things in play fifty. I want to run by it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
One.

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
It feels like the older you get, the more wise
you are, the better you play. Joe Flacco at thirty
eight looks better than Anthony Richardson in the offense. You
look at around the around football, these quarterbacks who come

(01:02:15):
in Andy Dalton right in Carolina. All of a sudden,
Carolina is offense is legit. It moves the ball. I
think a couple of things that are play. I think one,
I think the veteran piece of it. The game just
slows down. The older you get, the calmer you get.

(01:02:36):
And I think two, I think the more we see
a run game, and the more we see fullbacks and
a lean on the run game, the more you're gonna
have cleaner pockets and guys that have the ability to
throw from the pocket and get dark the ball down
the field are gonna have success.

Speaker 4 (01:02:57):
Yeah. I think there's also an element of when you've
seen a lot of football and you've been around the
league for a minute, it just all starts to make
more sense, you know, and so with you have coaches
that are better communicators to guys that are easier to teach.
Like I remember talking to Baker at the Super Bowl
and asking them what the biggest difference was that Tampa Bay,
and he said, for him, the biggest difference there was

(01:03:20):
that he just didn't feel any pressure anymore to be Baker,
to be a number one overall pick, to be a
franchise saver, to be any of those things. He just
felt like he could come out and have fun and
play football, you know. And if for Sam Darnold the
world's sort of given up on you, you can just
play however you want to play, and you don't have
the same level of pressure. Like I think when you
start to take some of these things away that are

(01:03:40):
put next to their name with the draft pick, what
you have are guys that were picked so high in
part because they're talented, right, and so now they have
a better understanding and better processing speed, and they have
a better like look at how many former coach and
quarterbacks used to become coaches, right, I think that speaks
to the mindset and the understanding, and so what you
got as guys get older, the just have a better
understand of what they're trying to execute and how they're

(01:04:01):
trying to execute it. So there's sort of a maturity
at the position that comes when you get that those
expectations taken away and then you can just go out
and be who you've been your whole life, which is
a really good quarterback. So, you know, I don't think
Sam Darnold necessarily is having the same level of success
if he's not with somebody that's in the same offensive
language that he's been in, right Like, So I got
a quarterback whisper coaching an offense that he's used to

(01:04:24):
from Shanahan that really lets him sort of understand it
and they're speaking the same language.

Speaker 3 (01:04:30):
Yeah, I do too, But I do think there's something
else at play, and I believe in the veteran piece
of it. But I also believe that you know, if
you run the ball, it just serves your quarterback if
you have a guy that could actually, you know, throw

(01:04:51):
it downfield. Now, Bradshaw was the disaster, right, so any
sort of competency, it looks different, right Like, So Amy
Dalton goes in there and he just, you know, understands
where to go with it. And and he's just gonna
look so much better than would Bruce shawnk And they

(01:05:14):
have some good weapons like Deontay Johnson is legitimate, right,
So when you're looking at this stuff. But the other night,
I mean it took a minute for Cousins to kind
of start to feel himself. But boy man, he got it.
I mean, I mean you want Drake London.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
And Mooney, I mean look at Mooney.

Speaker 3 (01:05:35):
I mean Mooney, you know, always knew he had talent,
but because the quarterback play he was he was wasted
in Chicago.

Speaker 4 (01:05:43):
Yeah, you are a thousand percent right about that. And
also how much of it too do we credit to
the intelligence that comes with you know, once everything starts
to slow down and then once like you said, you're
able to do a lot of different things, how much
emphasis that we don't put into like a quarterback getting
you in the right play at the line of scrimmage.
I just smart quarterbacks win. You know, there's just a

(01:06:05):
level of if you know what you're seeing and you
know how to digest what you're seeing and you don't
know how to communicate what you're seeing, you can win
a lot of games in this league, right, So, and
that is sort of a special aspect of it is
something as simple as moving a guy from inside to outside,
moving a guy from left to right, like these all
can make a huge difference. So these little things happening
pre snap are making a huge difference post snap, and

(01:06:25):
amer a couple of prestats.

Speaker 3 (01:06:27):
You now that pre stat motion, let me see it.
You see the teams with more motion are having more success.
And it's no coincidence. We talk about it being the
coach's league. You're talking about like the Shanahan tree, right,
the McVeigh tree, that whole, that whole thing. You look

(01:06:48):
at Kevin O'Connell when he's doing in Minnesota. You look
around the league and when you see those guys and
you see the movement. I mean, let mean, look look
at what Washington, Look what Kingsbury's doing. We talked about
it earlier with Jayden, but what is Jaden's gift? Jaden

(01:07:10):
can run, can move, but he looks to throw. Jayden
looks to throw the ball down the field.

Speaker 4 (01:07:20):
Yeah, and when you have an offensive coordinator that is
capable of figuring out how to get the best out
of that guy day one, it's it's it's amazing when
you have a Kirk Cousins and a Sam Tarnold who
are smart guys that know how to get the best
out of whatever they have. That's also you know, it's
just a couple of those throws that Kirk had were

(01:07:41):
you know, we could say that he was forcing the
ball in, which is what we say when it goes wrong.
But his ability to just cram the ball into guys
that are ending their route just where they need to,
you know, there there's a timing issue, there's making sure
that they're right finding the right spots in that defense.
Like all of this comes together, and when you've got
it from guys that you haven't seen it at this
level from I do have to attribute some of that

(01:08:03):
to like, man, that's Kirk and this new offense sort
of working together to make sure that they're communicating smart
things to the young wide receivers. It's just the more
and more we see this more. I'm a believer that
if you can just get a quarterback in a situation
where you can spend the first couple of years making
them really smart, then they can have a long career

(01:08:23):
in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (01:08:25):
Yeah, yeah, no, And no doubt I do. And the
only thing we've been talking about is the veteran nature
of it. But of that player. I mean, like again,
you know, like Flacco comes in and all of a sudden,
like the offense moves. Like By the way, we were
talking about main Shad Right, one of the great producers

(01:08:46):
that Fox Sports writing was with us. Who's graduated on
and he's a Browns guy.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
How much longer are you going to try it out
to Shaun Watson?

Speaker 3 (01:08:59):
Yeah, that's he stakes. He's horrible. He's got no chance.
You watch him.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
He looks utterly clueless. You can't. You gotta sit him.

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
I know the contract is in albatross, But the sooner
you go and you get to the realization that that
dude can't play, the better.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:09:29):
And the hard part about that is that, because I
agree with everything you just said, the hard part about
that is you've got to come again. You've got to
convince the billionaire owner that he's gonna admit that all
the money he spent was wrong. And that's the right
thing to do. But man, I just stubborn. Stubborn's real
from people with egos. Yeah, stubborn is real.

Speaker 3 (01:09:51):
Now, you're right, But man, man, could you if I'm
a billionaire owner. I just got to go. I can't
stomach this. I mean, it's it's worth the loss. Just
off the seat again.

Speaker 4 (01:10:06):
Yeah, no, I that he stakes like bad, bad, and
there isn't an easy There is no longer a you
know what, we just got to fix this one thing,
and if we fix this one thing, it's gonna be great.
Like he's broken, everything about it is broken at this point.

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
He I mean, and and he's fighting you on.

Speaker 3 (01:10:30):
I'm not a running quarterback and it's that dude, I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:10:35):
Know what you are.

Speaker 3 (01:10:36):
Bag, You're not. You're not a good quarterback, that's for sure.
I mean, they're they're just awful.

Speaker 4 (01:10:43):
Yeah, they're awful, and there is I mean, I'd be
stunned if the Browns don't draft a quarterback next year.
And that's the only thing they can do. They got
to get cheap labor. But even that, like that's gonna
be a lot of money at that one position. And
I just don't think they're gonna be able to take
a quick, easy right off of the whole thing either,
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:11:03):
Oh, I'm with you. Oh jeez, you know, w we
forgot Let's go to for some trending. I can just
talk to you all day, FITZI.

Speaker 8 (01:11:13):
Yeah, we did have a night of college football on
a Friday. A couple of ranked teams were in action,
one of them the six ranked Oregon Ducks, and they
got it done against Michigan State on their home field
at Oughtson Stadium, dismantling the Spartans thirty one to ten.
Dylan Gabriel three total touchdowns, Jordan James one hundred and
sixty six rushing yards and a score, so working out

(01:11:34):
two and zero in their first campaign as a member
of the Big Ten Conference. Number twenty five u NLV
certainly had their sights on an undefeated season and possibly
snagging a playoff spot, but those dreams took a hit. Certainly,
the ones of an undefeated season over but they're aspirations
of making a playoff and severe jeopardy after they get

(01:11:56):
up in it by Syracuse at home in overtime forty
four to forty one. Alan McCord had three touchdown passes
three hundred and fifty five yards on the dan in Syracuse.
For their part, is now four and once. We'll see
if they break open, if they break into the top
twenty five rankings in Houston over TCU thirty to nineteen.
As the horn Frogs have fallen a bit since their

(01:12:18):
national runner up year a couple of years ago, They're
now just one and two win the Big Twelve into
the WNBA playoffs. The Las Vegas Aces stay alive, forcing
a fourth game and a ninety five eighty one win
against the New York Liberty, so New York's league's still
two games to one. Asia Wilson a double double four
Vegas in the victory nineteen points fourteen rebounds. Breonna Stewart

(01:12:40):
had nineteen points for New York and Minnesota Connecticut ninety
to eighty one. They are ahead in that series. The
Links are two games to one. Major League Baseball a
big blow for the San Diego Padres. Joe musk Rove,
a key part of their pitching staff, had to leave
the game on Wednesday against the Braves because he had

(01:13:00):
discomfort in his elbow, and today was revealed that he
will need Tommy John surgery. So Muscrove is certainly going
to miss the postseason and very well could miss all
of twenty twenty five as well. And as for the
New York Mets, code I Singa gonna get the start
on the hill for the Mets in game one of
their NLDS matchup against the Philadelphia Phillies.

Speaker 3 (01:13:21):
Back to the Fellas, all right, buddy, Yeah, Sega came
out of nowhere. But he's not stretched out, so I
you know, I mean he's going to give you a max.

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
He's going to give me three innings.

Speaker 3 (01:13:34):
He's only he threw a sim threw twenty five pitches
the other day.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
If they're throwing fifteen pitches before.

Speaker 3 (01:13:40):
That, I don't see how he gives you anything more
than three innings. He's not stretched out. Peterson will have
to come back and pitch. All right, we'll get into
all that stuff and back to the football. In the
moment where the fellas hang it out right here Fox
Sports Radio Fellas with Jason fitz on Anthony Gargan hanging out.

(01:14:03):
I gotta give a yo to my man Chris Chill listening.
He said the league is parody today, which is good,
and he's right. Goes back to the quarterbacks. It's interesting
Minnesota can be an unbeaten team.

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:14:18):
I will say Flores is an elite defensive coordinator. I
mean the blitz packages that he does, the pressures that
he does just sensational.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
There's some really good coaching out there.

Speaker 4 (01:14:32):
Yeah, I mean Flores is just making everybody see ghosts.
Good quarterbacks play poorly, and it's a reason from a
fantasy football standpoint, I keep telling everybody this is a weekend.
I would bench everybody that plays for the Jets because
I mean, Flora's is Flora's and he's hot right now.
So when you've got a hot coordinator that is just
dialing things up, I don't care if it's Aaron Rodgers,
I don't care. You know, if it's Garrett Wilson, I

(01:14:52):
don't care about any of that right now. Good coaching wins,
and they're getting great coaching in Minnesota on the defensive
side of the ball.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
You're a spot on.

Speaker 3 (01:15:01):
Hey can I can I uh rip.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
The Mets for a second?

Speaker 4 (01:15:06):
Yes? Please go go on?

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
All right, let me get your opinion on this. There's
two There's a couple of things here.

Speaker 3 (01:15:15):
They are the corniest team that is out there. Hey
u o MG, seriously with that.

Speaker 4 (01:15:25):
You're not you're not a fan of the I mean,
like why what so? Why? I mean I feel like, okay,
it's kind of stupid, but at the same time, no,
social media can be fun for these teams too, like it,
I mean in a little bit of a little bit
of fun. O m G.

Speaker 3 (01:15:46):
Really that's why. That's why I said s T f.

Speaker 4 (01:15:52):
U, which yeah, no, which I thought that was spectacular.
Uh you know, yeah, anytime you know you're you're relying
on it miss to be sort of the mascot.

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
That's my next thing. Are you kidding me? With Grimace?

Speaker 3 (01:16:05):
I may come on, I could talk about a try
hard piece Grimace. Grimace isn't even cool, Like if you
had the Hamburglar, I go, all right, you rock Grimace.

Speaker 4 (01:16:17):
Uh, the Hamburglar or not. Even this isn't even an
arguable hot take the Hamburglar much cooler than Grimace, and.

Speaker 3 (01:16:24):
Every exactly it's cool. Like I would, I wouldn't think
you're corny if you went hand Burglar. You're going Grimace Grimace,
no weak.

Speaker 4 (01:16:34):
If the if the Phillies.

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
Jack's up Grimace all day long?

Speaker 4 (01:16:40):
Okay, the fanatics badass, Like there's no doubt about that. Uh.
If you know, if Grimace made an appearance and all
of a sudden the Phillies got hot, would you then
be in on Grimace?

Speaker 5 (01:16:51):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (01:16:52):
Okay, that's how I'm man. I had nothing to do
with fandom. I hate the Mets, but that has nothing
to do with that. It's Grimace. It's just it's not cool.
Greg Grimmy is cool. Grim is corny. Grimace, it's trying hard.
You tried to obg Grimace.

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
Stop.

Speaker 4 (01:17:15):
I'm actually I'm kind of with Like, there are things
that I roll my eyes and look as a Raiders fan,
like they had the mascot for a minute. I don't
even know if they still have that that came out
with the NFL did some mascots not too long ago,
and it looks stupid. Everything about it looks stupid. I'm
not I'm not really particularly in on any of the
stupidity around it. So I'm with you, like I'm with you.

(01:17:37):
The Grimace is a little cringey. I'll give you cringey. Yes,
I do think sometimes social media can be a fun
like the way the White Sox social media team handled
them losing every game became a hysterical distraction like this.
So there's a fine line between cringey, like in the
way any of these teams do anything. There's a fine
line between that's funny and that's cringey. And it's a

(01:18:00):
very very very fine line.

Speaker 3 (01:18:02):
Actually, Like listen, I'll take the Philadelphia thing out of here.
It's because I don't want you to think it's you know,
bias or homewords or anything. What the Padres do is
is cool. Like the Padres are cool. Pods are are
the way they celebrate out there, their whole thing they
got going on.

Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
Give me the pods all day.

Speaker 4 (01:18:21):
I like this. I like seeing you are showing that
there's you know, there's angles to it. There, there's some
I like anything that's creative. But I also think that
you got to understand, like what the Savannah bananas do
really well is what the Savannah bananas do really well.
There's a fine line between trying to be that like,
not everybody can be a stand up comic, not everybody
can write a movie around. Not everybody can turn around
to do something engaging and entertaining. They're not all home

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runs and social.

Speaker 3 (01:18:43):
Media, right, And that's all I'm saying, Like, listen, you
gotta you gotta know it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:52):
You gotta have a feel, That's all I'm saying. You
need a feel.

Speaker 3 (01:18:57):
Grimace, no good grim feel all right, hand motherler, we
missed it now, it's over all, right, we go through
all the games coming up, fellas, right here Fox Sports Radio.

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it's time to go over all the weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:19:47):
It's it's the best month of the year.

Speaker 3 (01:19:50):
Uh, my favorite month for so many reasons, including we
both share the Halloween love.

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
But it's the confluence of all sports.

Speaker 3 (01:20:00):
College football, NFL, we got baseball playoffs, whi's been awesome.
Hockey starts next week, NBA shortly thereafter. Like it's this
is the the most fun time of the year. Just
I just love it. I went the calendar to slow down.
It's going too fast, FITZI. This is this is from

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one quick note our boys Southside Chuck from mister Kentucky
has a great line.

Speaker 2 (01:20:28):
He said.

Speaker 3 (01:20:28):
Listen, he said, forget about Grimace. They should have rolled
with Mary mccheese.

Speaker 4 (01:20:36):
Oh, Mary mccheese is good too.

Speaker 3 (01:20:38):
That's strong, right, Yeah, you rock Mary mccheese.

Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
Uh, I go, well, that's actually good.

Speaker 3 (01:20:47):
That's cool. Yea, the worst one with Grimace. They could
have went Hamburglar. Now you could have got Mary mccheese
and you choose Grimace.

Speaker 4 (01:21:01):
Mayor mccheese has sort of a regalness to him that
the Hamburgler doesn't have. You know, I'm in on. Yeah,
he's got he's got like, you know, the little the monocle, right,
like he's wearing the monocle. So anybody with a monocle
feels fancy.

Speaker 3 (01:21:17):
He's but you know, listen, Mary mc cheese is probably
under indictment too.

Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
But you know it's all right.

Speaker 4 (01:21:27):
That's amazing. That's amazing. Uh Like Mayor mccheese in a
Mets Uni put a little like Mayor mccheese with the
little mets hat on top of him. Man, there's there's
some there's some opportunity in Mary mccheese. I'm in I
think if i'm ranking I'm i go Mary mccheese number one,
and then I go Hamburgler number two. I think we
can all agree that actual Ronald is the lowest of

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them because all clowns are creepy.

Speaker 2 (01:21:53):
Yeah no Ronald. Yeah, I even go grabs over ron.

Speaker 4 (01:21:59):
Oh yeah yeah, yeah yeah runs Ron's ron feels like problematic.
You know, I'm just I'm out, I'm out.

Speaker 2 (01:22:05):
Of yeah yeah. Gee, he by himself is cringe.

Speaker 4 (01:22:10):
Oh yeah yeah. But like also respect that everybody wanted
to like, he was the one that everybody wanted to
be around when I was a kid. But I don't know,
I think as you get older, it's just I'm out
on clowns. I mean, I'm in on clowns at Halloween
time because boy, if you get like the right demented
clown mask, you can make an entire room uncomfortable. But
I'm out on clowns. With my French fries. The Hamburglar

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has the whole cape thing going on, so you got
to bring that in. Okay, See, change a good Kate.
I'm in on this, totally in on a good Kate.
Cake changes everything.

Speaker 3 (01:22:46):
Yeah, you got if you go, you rock a Kate,
No matter everybody could rock a Kate. That's what made
the Hamburglar so special. He it worked. And if you
can rock a cape, you're the main I mean there's
you may be able to rock a cape.

Speaker 4 (01:23:07):
At what age does it go?

Speaker 5 (01:23:09):
Like?

Speaker 4 (01:23:10):
At what age in life do we go from like, Yeah,
your badass, you got a cape on to like, ooh,
you're getting beat up? You got a cape on? Like
I don't know when that changes, but we all know
that there's a line where you're like, yeah, you're you're
now you're now caping it to the Renaissance Festival and
that doesn't feel as cool as it did when you
were Superman as a kid. I don't know, but the.

Speaker 3 (01:23:28):
Now see, it's the color of the cape too. Okay,
black cape works like black cake, you can it just works.
Red cap you get beat up.

Speaker 4 (01:23:46):
I mean so as an adult, black cape, I walk
into a I'm not getting any dates wearing a black cape.
I'll tell you that.

Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
Like, dude, I'm telling you, black cape. Now you got
to pull it off. You gotta be able to pull
it off.

Speaker 3 (01:23:59):
No, I can't all that off, but you know, if
you might be able to do it, like, black cape
is still cool. I do A guy he was like
a street guy, like and he was in North Philly
right and in fact, my lawyer friend of mine represents

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him may or may not be like an Underworld figure, right. Okay, Hey,
my man needs to rock the Cape, and I gotta
tell you, I gotta be honest with you.

Speaker 2 (01:24:36):
They look cool on him.

Speaker 4 (01:24:40):
I think you've got to have a certain level of swag.
Maybe this is all about swagger. Like I'm starting to
become convinced.

Speaker 3 (01:24:45):
I guess if you're half an on the World figure
that you could have well, you could have a CAP.

Speaker 2 (01:24:49):
I mean, I told we're the Black Cape. I was like,
by this, dude's wild.

Speaker 4 (01:24:57):
If you could walk fast with the Cape and then
Mo moves all that just makes you even better.

Speaker 2 (01:25:02):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:25:05):
I just think that Cape doesn't Cape doesn't hit the same,
you know Cape Cape. Okay, there's a certain point in
life where Kate becomes cosplaying. That's like, that's what I like.

Speaker 3 (01:25:14):
Look, I love it, well, but like my man' is
not cosplaying, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:25:19):
That's fair?

Speaker 2 (01:25:21):
Yeah he was for real? For real? Is there a
matching imask too?

Speaker 3 (01:25:27):
Like around that you can't go unless you're handburglar you
can't go ahead made yeah, yeah, it brings, it's good,
it's good. Try You're right, you just can't go unless
you're the Hamburglar.

Speaker 2 (01:25:38):
That's the only way. Barzorro, like Antonio Banderas.

Speaker 3 (01:25:42):
Yeah, but even they, even Bandarius couldn't pull that off either.
You know, I know, what's your man? All Right, we digress,
we gotta get I want to get back to uh,
let's do it. Go through the games of the day.

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We talked about last night for a little bit in UNLV,
poor fits, he's on a bad streak, Raiders, and then
UNLV goes.

Speaker 2 (01:26:12):
Down to.

Speaker 3 (01:26:16):
Syracuse and it was a thriller. I mean it really was.
It was a great game over time. It was a
great game. And all the talk about the quarterback, right, well,
guess what the kid comes in and he played and
he's played well for.

Speaker 2 (01:26:37):
Williams.

Speaker 4 (01:26:38):
Oh yeah, yeah a couple of times, like look, they
scored forty one points. Quarterback not the issue there, you know,
Like the the funny thing is that Syracuse by the way,
I know Syracuse doesn't have a number next to their name,
but they're playing pretty good football right now.

Speaker 3 (01:26:51):
So the courts, good of courts. Legit and by the way,
how many third downs did he pick up?

Speaker 4 (01:26:57):
Oh god, it felt like every one of them, I mean,
and it just third and long yep, that that defense
couldn't and the number of close like that there was.
But in overtime there was a really if he really,
if he roughing the passer call, I didn't like. Obviously
I'm wearing my fan goggles, but I didn't like the
roughing the passer call. That it would have been four

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ten and instead it instead they end up, you know,
getting the opportunity to continue to drive. So but McCord
held in there. All that to say, I mean, he
he took some hits, and the number of times it
was like he barely got rid of the ball, but
guys were open. It's like UNLV was sending a lot
from a lot of places, and McCord did a nice
job of He did a nice job of forcing that

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to or getting the ball in there. You know, so
got to give him a lot of credit and nice.
This is one of those examples. We talk about this
a lot, but as we've mentioned a few times today
that the president of college football is far better than
many people anticipated it would be. I think, you know,
you look at the transfer portal, and you got a
kid that school basically given up on and instead he

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gets to go somewhere else to keep playing college football
at a high level and keep doing really well.

Speaker 3 (01:28:08):
Dude, it's I love I love where collegeoble is. I
just I love it. Let me ask you Oregon. I
know they rolled last night. I'm unimpressed. Gabriel too horrible
throws in the red zone, too, interceptions early in the
red zone.

Speaker 2 (01:28:30):
Yeah, and Marble, why I saw it? Bad throws? Man?

Speaker 4 (01:28:37):
How many weeks in a row are we gonna wait
for Oregon to just show up.

Speaker 3 (01:28:41):
In Michigan States is terrible and I mean, you know,
so no feathers there two straight.

Speaker 4 (01:28:49):
Weeks at Michigan State for the first half has I
mean they were in it against Ohio State. They committed
too many turnovers in the red zone, which is wild,
and then they had the same thing last night. Couple
of turnovers or to a turnover I should say early
on in the red zone. That's just inexcusable. You know,
Michigan State can hang around for a half, but all
they have right now is the ability to hang around

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for a half. And you know it's I expected more
from Oregon. You know, at some point we need to
see everything click for Oregon and like, look, this is
why the eye test matters for the College Football Committee,
because I think the eye test tells just queerly right
now that a team like Tennessee isn't a different statusphere
than when Oregon is. And Oregon has all the talent
they have, all the speed they have, all the weapons

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they have, all the individual ability, They're just not putting
it together in a way that makes any sense. So
you know, I don't I'm not in love with where
Oregon is right now. And you know, if they are
the sixth best team in the country, they need to
start acting like a thirty one to ten is the
final score on it. But that game didn't feel like
a thirty one to ten game. It was twenty one nothing,
I think at the half, and it felt much closer

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to that. It's pretty inexcusable to see Oregon not yet
find the rhythm that they need to find.

Speaker 2 (01:30:01):
No, I know, I know.

Speaker 3 (01:30:02):
My man Eddie Webster, the Michigan State quarterback, fumbled at
the one yard line, lost momentum, and that's true. But
they're not good. And by the way, he had two.
He had two turnovers to goal line last week too,
the kid. I mean, Michigan State's been been awful. They

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actually kept the game against o Ives, stayed close by that,
but they're not good. I mean you can see their
offense is they can't sustain drives. I so with you.
Tennessee's on a completely different, you know, plane of existence
than Oregon. Let's go through the games for today involving

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the top twenty five, shall we.

Speaker 4 (01:30:47):
Yes, there are some brutal ones out there. Yes, let's go.

Speaker 3 (01:30:52):
I mean, just you know, just show we do it right, like, yes, yes,
I don't want to cheat it. It's it's not you know,
it's not next week or the week after where you
got some big time matchups. But let's get it started.
It still cracks me up with no Pac twelve and
how the travel situation, it's insane. So UCLA makes its

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debut on at Penn State, so long travels there. U
c LA comes to Penn State Penn State four and
oh olur looks great. They're an overwhelming favorite to make
the playoffs the NTS.

Speaker 2 (01:31:34):
What do you think?

Speaker 4 (01:31:36):
Yeah, I mean this is remember when UCLA was relevant.
That's I just keep getting hit by how prepared USC
seemed to be for this jump and how unprepared UCLA
seems to be. And it's just I don't know what's
gonna make UCLA even a decent program right now. It's
it's really unfortunate because I like it when USC and
UCLA are both good and there seems to be some

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momentum to California football, and there just isn't. Right now.
UCLA's gonna get thumped in this game. And Aler is
I mean, just as we've talked at nauseum this year,
this Penn State offense has just exploded. The average depth
of target is through the roof. They're letting Aler do
a lot more. And yeah, like I think right now,
neutral field, Penn State Oregon, I take Penn State. I

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think Penn State's actually under ranked right now, and Oregon
is over ranked based on what we thought they were
going to be coming in.

Speaker 2 (01:32:25):
Agreed. Yeah, I agree, brother, I'm with you.

Speaker 3 (01:32:29):
Uh, this is a good game, and I'm looking for
this one. Missouri and A and An is interesting now.
A and M's a two and a half point favorite
against MISZOI. It should be a good, great test. Missouri

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number nine in the country, what are you thinking?

Speaker 4 (01:32:53):
Yeah, By the way, I'll say the same thing here.
I think Missouri is wildly over ranked right now, and
I think that, you know, frankly, Texas A and M
is being slip on just a little bit. I don't
think they're a great team, but A and M is talented.
We know A and M's defensive line is supposed to
be problematic, but it just hasn't necessary to put it together.
But Missouri just I mean, to anyone that tells me

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that they're supposedly a top ten team, I'll go back
and say, did you watch the Vandy game?

Speaker 3 (01:33:20):
Like that?

Speaker 4 (01:33:21):
Not much has looked easy for Missouri. We had pretty
high expectations for the offense, and the offensive efficiency has
been pretty bad for a playoff team. So you know,
I don't think Missouri is a great football team this year.
I think they in my mind, they're closer to the
fifteenth ranked team than where they are right now. Neutral field,
I would take a team like Notre Dame over them,
So you know, I believe realistically, I think Texas A

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and M is probably closer to being number twenty and
Missouri's close to being number fifteen, and that explains why
A and M's favored at home, Right, So I think
A and M has a real shot to win this game. Yeah,
A and M has been you know, ineptic times.

Speaker 2 (01:33:56):
The Yeah, no, I'm with you. Listen to your two
a half point favorite for a reason.

Speaker 3 (01:34:00):
You know, I'll tell was, uh, what game did we
talk about last week where I said that I liked
and I'm like, Brad will like this game?

Speaker 2 (01:34:11):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:34:11):
Oh god, you're right? What came was that? And immediately
it was it was the Ravens. It was the Ravens bills.

Speaker 3 (01:34:16):
Okay, right, right, yep, because the Ravens were on were
obviously winless, and those came in off that Monday night.
This kind of feels the same setup where A and
M is is twenty eight point favorite over and unbeaten
Missouri team.

Speaker 2 (01:34:37):
Iowa.

Speaker 3 (01:34:38):
Ohio State, now it's a big number, eighteen and a half.
How good is Ohio State?

Speaker 4 (01:34:48):
I mean, do we really know? You know, like Ohio State.

Speaker 3 (01:34:53):
Afar in Western Michigan Marshall and then last week Michigan State.

Speaker 4 (01:34:58):
And like we said, Michigan State not particularly good. You know,
it's hard because this is where you look at the talent.
You look at the coaching. You look at everything, look
at the players. You know they're going to be a
good football team, but based on what, like, what have
we actually seen this season that gives us any proof
of concept to where they are, Like, that's the hardest

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part about trying to figure this out. Now, Iowa still
can't score on anybody their defense. Their offense is a
little better, but their defense is still good, you know.
And and I laughed at Iowa early on in the
season because I felt like even against Illinois State, they
sort of showed that they were frauds because the inaccuracy
throw in the football was real. You know. So Kate McNamara,

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I don't think has looked nearly as good as Iowa
wanted him to look. But they've got a defense that
can show up. I wonder if Iowa can give him
a game on paper. I don't think they should be
able to. But what am I basing that on other
than my my perception of who Ohio State was going
to be when the season started. You know that's because
we've seen nothing. We have no idea.

Speaker 2 (01:36:00):
Yeah, that's a good point. All right, let's do this.
Let's take a quick too.

Speaker 3 (01:36:05):
We'll come back we'll go through the rest of college
some of the games that stand out, and then it's
on to the NFL and we have our first London game.

Speaker 2 (01:36:15):
Do you like the London game?

Speaker 4 (01:36:17):
Hate? Hate so much? I hate this hate.

Speaker 2 (01:36:20):
Oh really wait?

Speaker 4 (01:36:23):
West Coast baby, Like, you're gonna make people like I'm
living in Connecticut but still I'm a West Coaster at
my heart. Like you're gonna make people get up at
six in the morning and make eggs before breakfast so
that they can watch football.

Speaker 2 (01:36:34):
Is yeah, well stupid.

Speaker 3 (01:36:37):
Brianna likes likes it because she gets to watch football
and while she's in bed, she don't have to get up.

Speaker 4 (01:36:45):
Right back, we'll right you know what. It can't even
door dash and get the food in time to watch
everything about everything about the life.

Speaker 3 (01:36:52):
Yeah, it's weird. I mean I'm not gonna lie it's weird.
But I'm an East Coaster, so being an East Coaster
I like you. It's like, wow, man, I get a
little appetizer for the day.

Speaker 2 (01:37:07):
You're out.

Speaker 4 (01:37:08):
Disagree, Like, yeah, you're also finning out my Sunday afternoon
line up.

Speaker 3 (01:37:13):
I know you need multiple games and now you got
bie weeks, so you're already fitting the herd.

Speaker 4 (01:37:20):
I hate everything about all of this.

Speaker 2 (01:37:24):
Where the Fellaws hang it out right here Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 7 (01:37:29):
listen live.

Speaker 3 (01:37:41):
Welcome back Fellas, Fox Football Saturday and Baseball.

Speaker 2 (01:37:49):
Oh, next hour, I want to I'm going to torture
you with some baseball talk. Baby. Let's go.

Speaker 3 (01:37:57):
Seamhead all right, but first let's not get it. I
don't want to lose it. Let's find out what's trending,
and then don't want to dive back into college football.

Speaker 2 (01:38:13):
Golhead keV all right. College football.

Speaker 8 (01:38:16):
Last night, Oregon stays undefeated in a convincing fashion. They
dominate Michigan State thirty one to ten, three of the
four touchdowns by the Ducks coming at the hands of
Dylan Gabriel through for two ran for another one, while
Jordan James on the ground one hundred and sixty six
yards and a score. So the Ducks right now very
well could be looking at a top five ranking, and

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in their first year in the Big Ten, have a
two and zero start in a conference play.

Speaker 2 (01:38:44):
Number twenty five.

Speaker 4 (01:38:45):
U and LV it's their first loss of the season.

Speaker 8 (01:38:48):
Syracuse takes him down in Sin City, forty four to
forty one in overtime, a devastating blow for the Rebels
as an undefeated season very well could have meant a
play off birth. But they're gonna have to try and
see if they could salvage the rest of what they
got now. But Syracuse, for their part, is four and one,
and we'll see if they can crack the top twenty
five rankings next week. And TCU has fallen a bit

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in the last couple of years, going from the National
Championship Game down just to one in two in a
Big twelve play after they lose to Houston on Friday night,
final score thirty to nineteen. WNBA Playoffs. It's the Las
Vegas ace Is forcing a fourth game of their best
of five series against the New York Liberty, winning it
on Friday ninety five to eighty one behind a double

(01:39:31):
double from Asia Wilson nineteen points and of fourteen rebounds
of Minnesota Links over the Connecticut Sun ninety to eighty one,
so Minnesota ahead in that series two games to one.
In Major League Baseball, the Division series beginning in both
leagues on a Saturday, with the Padres gonna be without
a key part of their starting rotation. Joe Musgrove had

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to leave the wild card game against the Braves on
Wednesday because of elble discomfort, and now he will Tommy
John surgery, so his postseason is done and is in
jeopardy of missing the entire twenty twenty five season as well.
But the Met's gonna start pitcher Koda Singa in their
opener against the Phillies today.

Speaker 2 (01:40:15):
In that matchup.

Speaker 8 (01:40:16):
NFL injury news Christian Watson, Romeo Dobbs doubtful to face
the Rams on Sunday. Cooper Cup is ruled out for
that matchup with an ankle injury. Seven Las Vegas Raider
players have been ruled out a Sunday's game, including DeVante Adams.

Speaker 4 (01:40:30):
He is awaiting from the team.

Speaker 8 (01:40:32):
He's officially has a hamstring issue, but of course we
know that with his trade Demanza, He's away from the
team right now while that gets resolved. Michael Parson is
not gonna play against the Steelers. Pittsburgh will be without
Jalen Warren and Cordwell, Patterson and Russell Wilson is listed
as questionable for the Colts. Anthony Risterdson listed as questionable,
but no Jonathan Taylor. He has been ruled out. That

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also be without quarterback Kenny Moore in defensive end Quitty
Pay for the forty nine ers. George Kittlefred Warner listened
as questionable for Sunday's game against the Cardinals.

Speaker 2 (01:41:06):
Back to you guys, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:41:09):
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Speaker 2 (01:41:19):
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Speaker 3 (01:41:21):
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Speaker 2 (01:41:27):
Roll through it, all right. I'll get a little momentum action.

Speaker 3 (01:41:33):
This is a weird day, man, There's really there's not
There's not.

Speaker 2 (01:41:39):
I can't wait on next week. Alburn and Georgia Alburn
Alburn days.

Speaker 8 (01:41:47):
I know.

Speaker 4 (01:41:49):
George's mad slaughter.

Speaker 3 (01:41:50):
Go ahead, Yeah, it's twenty two. It's actually light. I
actually liked George. I actually would lay it, man. It
looks and feels light to me.

Speaker 4 (01:41:59):
I did. I got a little yeah, so George, I'm
back to Yeah, I'm back at the babbling. I got
a little like about angry Georgia is gonna come out
with the Thunder of the Gods, make a statement. They're
gonna come out and sort of unleash some of what
they're still feeling the Ikeys from last weekend. No, I
like Georgia a lot in this one.

Speaker 2 (01:42:19):
This is interesting, old Miss.

Speaker 3 (01:42:20):
After the loss, now I has to go to South
Carolina and there are nine point favorites at South Carolina.

Speaker 4 (01:42:30):
And the funny thing is, I want to say the
same thing that Old Miss is gonna come out with
the thunder of the Gods. But I don't know, man, Like,
I have trust issues now with this Old Miss team.
I'm not gonna lie. Look, South Carolina is not particularly
They're not exactly I.

Speaker 2 (01:42:43):
Agree with you. I have the same trust issues with them.

Speaker 4 (01:42:46):
I just I just can't do it. Like, but this
is a wildly important I mean, think about it. South
Carolina is a weird loss to LSU away from being
undefeated right now. Yo, if you're South Carolina, you're you're
looking around saying, Hey, this is our chance. Let the
world know that we belong in this sec conversation. And
I don't think they do. But I believe that this
is the sort of game that if I was just

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playing the video game version of it, if I trusted
Old Miss, they went by two touchdowns. I just don't
know that I can touch trust them. So usually I
would the hammer the points, hammer the over on Ole
Miss in this sort of situation, but I can't do
that right now.

Speaker 2 (01:43:22):
I feel the same way. I just don't trust them.
Undefeated Indiana.

Speaker 3 (01:43:30):
At Northwestern my Man, undefeated victory's over FIU Western Illinois,
seventy seven to three UCLA Charlotte, and last week Maryland.
They've put up seventy seven, forty two, fifty two, and

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forty two in the last four weeks.

Speaker 4 (01:43:56):
This is just such a fun story that's gonna come
crackhishing down to earth at the beginning of November, because, like,
if you look at their schedule for Indiana Northwestern Nebraska,
which I think is a tough game, obviously, Washington at
Michigan State, I'm not sure who Michigan State will be
by then, and then back to back weeks they get
Michigan and Ohio State. So I could totally see Indiana

(01:44:17):
rolling into this thing and that you know, game day
is going to be sitting around like that. That game
against Michigan is at Indiana. Oh, I could see. I
could see game day rolling in, big noon rolling in.
We're all hyped for the Michigan Indiana game. That turns
out to be a slaughter like like, and that's not
And I don't think Michigan's all that great. It's just
I don't know. This feels like one of those really

(01:44:39):
fun stories in college football until it's no longer a
fun story.

Speaker 2 (01:44:43):
Yeah, I got you, I got you.

Speaker 4 (01:44:45):
It's good though, Like, hey, it's good, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:44:48):
I mean, look, Rourke's playing well, Yes, throw the ball
over the field.

Speaker 2 (01:44:57):
You're right, a bunch of points today.

Speaker 4 (01:44:59):
It does feel like a very modern like they're able
to they're spread around, they're able to do a lot
like It's just, man, who they played early on is
just so different, you know, for me to have a
great assessment of God, I'm mellen on this.

Speaker 2 (01:45:15):
Yeah, uh Bama. Is that Vandy today? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:45:23):
I mean, by the way Vandy's in these super conference conversations,
you know, the funniest part to me is that Vanderbilt's
not going anywhere, Like, let's just be honest about that.
Vanderbilt's not gonna leave the SEC because they get SEC
money and that's amazing. And the SEC is never gonna
kick Vandy out because they want to have the opportunity

(01:45:44):
to go out and thump Vandy. You know, It's just
this is one of those teams that get like they
started the season. Vandy started the season with a big
win over Virginia Tech, and you look at it and say, man,
maybe there's something there, only to lose a few weeks
later to Georgia State, and they had Missouri on the rope, like,
let's be honest, they had Missouri beaten and they just
couldn't get it done. So I don't know, this just

(01:46:06):
feels like Alabama's gonna come in and Jalen Milroe is
gonna remind the world that Vandy is really good at
producing engineers and doctors and lawyers, but maybe not maybe
not football players on the same level as Jalen Milroe.

Speaker 2 (01:46:21):
Yeah, no, I hear you. And then this is interesting Tennessee.
I mean it's a mild tester.

Speaker 3 (01:46:31):
You're on the road at Fayetteville, right, so you're on
the road against Arkansas.

Speaker 2 (01:46:38):
They're a fourteen point favorite. I do think this is
a bit of a tester.

Speaker 4 (01:46:43):
Now, look, I think you're right in Arkansas. For however,
I don't think Arkansas is a great football team. That's
not a hot take. But Arkansas typically comes in and
plays pretty solid defense, right Like we know that. So
I'm pretty interested to see if there's a wrinkle there
that tests Tennessee. Feels like a bit of a warm up.
I'm all in on the road.

Speaker 2 (01:47:04):
You can see like this will be their super Bowl.
Mh yeah, right, this is Arkansas going on. They said,
let's shock the world.

Speaker 4 (01:47:15):
Yeah, And I because I'm a lover, I'm an agent
of chaos. I love the concept of shock the world.
But if you're if you're Tennessee, man like man Tennessee
to me, I just think right now, I if I
had to make a National Championship game prediction right now,
I think it would be Texas versus Tennessee. I just

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Tennessee is so explosive on both sides of the ball.
And I know we've seen like this is what everybody does.
They turn around, they say, well, you know, we saw
this a few years ago and Tennessee fizzled out. Well,
that was a much differently built team. This defense just
flies to the ball. This defense creates spot.

Speaker 2 (01:47:55):
This is a real defense, false defense.

Speaker 4 (01:47:59):
Yet yeah, I am as Yeah, I'm as nervous as
anybody with Nico Iamalava. I just I just wanted to
show everybody I've learned how to say the name having
just a down moment. Thank you very much, brag. You know,
I'm nervous about Yama Liava having a moment that's a regrettable,

(01:48:21):
you know, young kid playing quarterback moment in a playoff game.
That is the only thing. But Josh Hipel does such
a great job offensively of not making a quarterback handle
more than they're capable of handling. I just, man, I
think you've got a brilliant offensive coach with the defense
that is just flying. I think Tennessee's headed to at
the very least a deep playoff run. But I would
not be surprised at all to see a national championship appearance.

Speaker 2 (01:48:44):
Yeah, now, dude, I'm with you.

Speaker 3 (01:48:47):
I guess the last college game that's worth talking about
the other game at night. So you have Tennessee tonight
Arkansas on ABC, and then on NBC Peacock you have.

Speaker 2 (01:49:01):
Washington and Michigan.

Speaker 4 (01:49:05):
Yeah, will this be the week that Michigan learns how
to throw the football. If you want me to believe
that Michigan is the tenth best team in the country,
then all I do think when I think about these
playoff matchups is how bad some of them are gonna be. Like,
there is no way in hell Michigan can sit on
the field with Tennessee night in night out they play

(01:49:27):
ten times, Tennessee wins ten of those, Like Michigan is
in over its head right now. And I think it's
awesome that they've figured out a way to win ugly
football games. And I think it's awesome that they've figured
out a way to run the ball. It's just as
effectively as they need to. And I honestly I think
they're gonna roll over Washington. But I just all of
those things can be true while also thinking that Michigan
is in the category of okay and not in the

(01:49:48):
category of pretty good. Like I don't even think they're
in the category of like it's a good football team. No,
if they were taking on a good football team, if
if they're taking on Georgia, Georgia thumps some ten out
of ten, right, Like it's just the line between the
top five. The moat between the top five and the rest,
to me is pretty staggering right now.

Speaker 3 (01:50:07):
Not dude, that's spot on. It's about and there's and
there's uh, there's sharks in the you're you're spot off, man,
I completely agree.

Speaker 4 (01:50:19):
Yeah, it's like it's like Frogger, the old video game
where you're like trying to get through the traffic to
get to the other side. Yeah, there's gonna be a
lot of getting squished, a lot. I mean, I think
we're going to see, like the first week in the playoffs,
the conversation is going to be should we have expanded
because you're going to see a bunch of you know,
forty two to ten sort of things gonna be.

Speaker 2 (01:50:38):
I can see that.

Speaker 3 (01:50:40):
All right, let's say quick too, will come back and
we'll begin our foray around the NFL. So that's coming
up next, where the fellas hanging out with you on
Fox Sports Radio, fellas hanging from the tyrac dot Com studios,

(01:51:02):
Jason Fitz, Anthony Garganta. Let's go into start our foray
around the league about tomorrow. So let's look at it,
my man. We start off in London with the Jets, right,
Jets Vikings, Darnald four and oh the Darling against the Jets.

Speaker 2 (01:51:26):
Minnesota's at two and a half point favorite.

Speaker 3 (01:51:29):
So a'll to talk about DeVante Adams and you know,
going back to Rogers because it feels like it's weird
Rogers and Garrett Wilson are not on the same page.

Speaker 4 (01:51:41):
Yeah, I mean, I think that's pretty clear, right, and
that's been the case. It's funny because I've interviewed Garrett
a couple of times for Y'allhoo Sports, and every time
he says all the right things because he's smart, like
Garrett knows what's sure. But I do think there's something now.
You know, at the moment, I have no problem with
two people that are practic thing together, which is sort

(01:52:01):
of a sacred work environment, then deciding they're going to
yell at each other during that sacred work and buy
in practice like who cares to me the amount that
we made over training camp practices and things like that.
Yelling at each other doesn't really matter. But now that
they're not on the same page, now you can start
to stack that with some of what we saw then
and ask, Okay, where's the issue, Because what you have

(01:52:23):
is a brilliant quarterback obviously, and you have a wide
receiver that has played at an incredibly elite level that understands,
and they're not on the same page at all. So
how do you fix that in season? And that's really
tough to do. You know, like there's just it feels
like they need to go into the darkness and you know,
take some wild drugs and then come out of it
on the other side with a better kumbaya because they're

(01:52:46):
just they're not on the same page. And I don't
know how that's going to be handled because I mean,
my god, everything that happens for the Jets gets blown
up a million times over. So you know, there's only
it's only a matter of time before we're all And
you know, Garrett Wilson is a superstar player with superstar talent,
but he's not right now. This offense isn't showing him

(01:53:07):
like that. So I think you got to get that
fixed quickly because it feels to me. You tell me,
But the goalposts feel like they've moved on the Jets
because two months ago is well, no, this Jets team, sure, sure,
they're absolutely a super Bowl contender, and now it's like, no,
they'll get it figured out, they're going to be fine. Well,
that's a much different conversation than this Jets team super
Bowl contender, and if they want to be back to that,

(01:53:28):
Garrett's got to be one hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (01:53:30):
Yeah, I'm with you and I you know, And it's
weird because I don't understand why they're not on the
same page. That's the biggest surprise to me is that,
you know, I've seen I've seen Garret Wilson dominate with
bad talent, like quarterback talent, and I'm like, oh my god.
With Rogers, he's gonna he's gonna be incredible, And yet

(01:53:50):
here he is and Rogers just there's something there. It's
not working, and he'd rather throw the lazaar. It's unbelievable
to me.

Speaker 4 (01:54:03):
Yeah, and it doesn't feel sustainable that way because this
is also the other thing. Whenever you've got a superstar
wide receiver, the question is why aren't they getting him
the ball? Like we'll go back to DeVante Adams. It
feels like anytime the quarterback, like when Derek Carr wasn't
getting the ball to DeVante Adams, the conversation was, doesn't
he realize that DeVante Adams is always open. You've got

(01:54:24):
to get him the ball is Garrett. Was Garrett Wilson
three months ago not trending to be that sort of
a player. I think he was, So you know, it's
curious to me that we're looking around and saying, well,
you know, they'll get on the same page. They get
it right. But if it was Zach Wilson at the
time doing the same exact thing, forcing the ball to
Alan or getting the ball to Alan Lazard instead of

(01:54:44):
forcing it into Garrett Wilson, we turn around and be like, wo,
how are you not utilizing your best weapons. So it's
a weird double standard that comes with everything the Jets do.

Speaker 2 (01:54:53):
It truly is listen.

Speaker 3 (01:54:57):
I kind of like Minnesota again. I think Flora is
is if they can't get their run game going. And
I don't understand that either, because they have two really
good backs and I don't know, I feel the Jets
offense should be a lot better. I don't know what.
I don't know why they can't run the ball. But

(01:55:18):
you know, when you're struggling defensively, flora is the last
guy you want to see.

Speaker 4 (01:55:25):
Yeah. I can't cannot stress enough how important it is
to have a hot coordinator right now, and I just
we have to acknowledge that sometimes coaches from a play
calling standpoint, just get hot. They're feeling it right, they're
feeling it the right way, and they're good. Flora's is
you know, as we've said multiple times on this show,
and I will continue to echo, I hope he gets

(01:55:45):
another shot as a head coach. I don't believe he will,
but I hope he gets another shot as a head coach.
And if he doesn't, then the Vikings have hit the
coordinator lottery because they've got a coordinator that is just
he's just he's fooling everybody. And you know, again, he's
a Stroud is a very good quarterback and didn't look
like it. Jordan Love has good moments, but you know again,

(01:56:06):
for the majority of that game, didn't look like it.
Like I, man, flores Is just's he's hot right now,
and I think that remains hot today. I I like
the Vikings to win this game. I like it to
be ugly, but I like the Vikings to win all right.

Speaker 2 (01:56:19):
Uh Man, the Bengals, this is it. Seize it on
the line. Baby.

Speaker 3 (01:56:25):
You're sitting at one to three and you got and
you got to play the Ravens and Henry and you
got to play the King, and your front has been awful.

Speaker 9 (01:56:37):
This is it.

Speaker 2 (01:56:38):
This is a dicey game for Cincinnati.

Speaker 4 (01:56:43):
The Bengals should be sending the Cowboys flowers because the
Cowboys run defense being so dreadful is the reason we're
not talking enough about the Bengals run defense being dreadful
like this is lou Anararumo, the defensive coordinator for the
Bengals a few years ago, was a like, oh man,
this this this guy's as he's hot, he's brilliant, he's
gonna be a head coach. Man. It feels like that
window shut down quickly because this defense is like, if

(01:57:07):
I'm the Ravens right now, I'm going right back to
the game plan I used a few weeks ago. I'll
run the ball fifty times if I have to win
this game, doesn't matter. I'm a runer till you stop it.
And by the way, the minute you actually try to
stop it. Now, I've got two tight ends in Isaiah
Likely and Mark Andrews that are capable of catching the
ball out of run formations so beautifully. I just I
think I think the tight ends are gonna eat and

(01:57:27):
they're still gonna run the ball. Like so this feels
like Zay Flowers might not even we might not need
a target for the Ravens to win this game handling.
I think Baltimore is gonna dominate this.

Speaker 3 (01:57:39):
Yeah, I don't see that they don't. I'll be honest
with you. I think the Bengals in some real trouble.
Speaking of teams, in real trouble, Jacksonville oh to four,
My man, Dougie, Doug Peterson will be the first coach fired.

Speaker 4 (01:57:55):
Yeah, and whoever comes it, like, if this continues to
go off the rail, he's gonna get let go. And
by the way, now somebody's gonna have to come in
and try and figure out how to fix Trevor Lawrence.
And I cannot believe we are saying that. But Trevor
Lawrence has not been good enough. And and everybody will
make apologies. He looks le Yeah, And this is where

(01:58:17):
it's always like, well it's the injury or the weapons,
there's always there's there. The apologies for Herbert and Trevor
Lawrence are through the roof that don't exist for other quarterbacks.
I don't get it. They're gonna have to find somebody
to fix Trevor Lawrence.

Speaker 2 (01:58:28):
No, his decision making is terrible.

Speaker 5 (01:58:31):
YEP.

Speaker 3 (01:58:31):
I don't know how he's regretted so badly, Like he
looks terrible and it's a shake because I love Doug
but he's great guy, and you know, I don't want
to put it on him. But man Wentz regretsed badly,
and so did so did Lawrence. Where the Fellas big
a coming up next?

Speaker 2 (01:58:51):
Fox Sports Radio, Dost Fox Sports Radio Radio.

Speaker 3 (01:58:59):
All Right, good morning, morning, good morning, good morning, good morning,
happy happy Fox Football Saturday and Baseball.

Speaker 2 (01:59:07):
Yeah, I can't you know, I love it.

Speaker 4 (01:59:11):
I love the passion, brother, I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:59:12):
Yeah, I do. I'm I'm geeking.

Speaker 3 (01:59:14):
I'm geeking out over like I love during the week
when like it's a day game during the week.

Speaker 2 (01:59:21):
I love that.

Speaker 3 (01:59:23):
I watched, you know, every division game. I just you know,
school boy pitching for the Tigers. Tigers are a great
story there that got a little life. They're gonna be interesting.
It's Cleveland, Kansas City.

Speaker 2 (01:59:39):
I love that. Bobby witt Uh, it's amazing. Man.

Speaker 3 (01:59:42):
Baltimore has got some big bats and and they just
went power outage. They just over the last two months
of the season, they stopped inting. It's amazing. They have
a great lineup and they just stopped hitting. So Case
will move on to play the Yankees, and I think
the Yankees are overrated, or any case he's got a shot.
I mean, you know, Gak is your favorite, but this

(02:00:04):
is this is a lineup you can navigate around after
Soto would judge.

Speaker 2 (02:00:09):
So you got that and then the end. Now it's
just ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (02:00:12):
We talked about it earlier, Holy Wars, Dodgers, Padres, Phillies, Mets,
you know.

Speaker 2 (02:00:22):
I mean, it's it's gonna have great theater.

Speaker 4 (02:00:25):
Buddy, talk about a final four where on that side
where any of them could make it, and I wouldn't
be surprised, you know that. That's that's a beautiful thing,
you know, And you're right, Like my heart sort of
breaks for the Ools because I feel like this is
the second year in a row. The conversation has been like,
well but look at you know, Baltimore's finally playing regular, relevant,
regular season baseball. But it feels like such a waste.

(02:00:47):
After all, It's like, I've got a good buddy that
I worked with at Yahood. That's a massive Brewers fan,
massive Brewers fan. So Friday morning, as we connected to
do our insight coverage, Frank Swab as we connected to
do the show, so he was still just going apoplectic,
losing his mind over the fact that you go through
that entire regular season and then you get all the

(02:01:07):
way to the ninth inning and your team just finds
a catastrophic way to lose. And I made the mistake,
and I will say it was a mistake of being like, hey, man,
just like, you know, appreciate the fact that you guys
got into the playoffs. That's extra baseball, Like that's fun.
Oh yeah, yeah, I might as well have said his
mom was ugly, Like it just I called his grandma fat.
That's basically what happened, Like it was an open wound.

(02:01:29):
And I get it. I think it's just it's so
heartbreaking when you've done something like look at look at Baltimore.
You've done something so well, and then you get to
the time that you need to do that one thing
more than anything else, and suddenly you forget how to
do it. Like it's just God, it's just gut wrenching
for everybody.

Speaker 9 (02:01:47):
Yeah, you're right on, man, absolutely brutal, and they got
you know, I mean it's good they have good young talent.

Speaker 3 (02:01:55):
Churio's ridiculous, twenty years old. These just style, but nobody
wants to hear it. Like when you're when you're that
close to moving on and you just get stung by
that oppo bapo three run. Oh, that's just torture. Torture,
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Uh all right, my buddy, let's continue around the NFL.
We talked about Lawrence and the situation in Jacksonville.

Speaker 2 (02:02:57):
God, Miami, I mean, how pathetic was that Monday night?

Speaker 4 (02:03:02):
It's hard too, because I think I don't know that
I've ever seen such a shift in narrative without acquiescing
to the other side. Let me explain what I mean
for a second, because that sounds weird. All I've heard
for how long is that you can't pay Tua because
he's overrated and he can't win without the weapons around him.

(02:03:23):
It's all about the weapons and the coach. And now
all of a sudden, no Tua, which should make a
difference in most offenses, and all of a sudden, it's like, Wow,
the coach just isn't good enough. Like maybe this is
the time two things can be true. Maybe this is
a time where while acknowledging that you know, obviously this
team looks inept right now, maybe this is the time
we also need to acknowledge that maybe we've been undervaluing

(02:03:45):
Tua a little bit throughout this conversation because the drop
off has been awful. And then the other side of
it is I will remind everybody that in March, the
Indianapolis Colts decided to pay Joe Flacco a total of
five million dollars five million bucks. That's it, that's everything,
that's the incentives, that's all of it five million bucks
for Joe Flacco, and Joe Flacco stepped in and has

(02:04:08):
absolutely played well enough and continues to play well enough
for the Colts to win. Maybe this is also a
moment that we should look at organizations and say, how
in the hell when you have a concussion prone quarterback
do you get yourself into a situation where your backup
quarterback is somebody that you can't rely on. You just
can't do it, Like you have to allocate five million
dollars and you could have had Flacco last year? Was

(02:04:28):
whatever ten million dollars you could have had Minshew second
straight year that the Colts have done a nice job
of making sure because of the style of play that
the quarterback has, they have a backup they can trust.
How have the Dolphins not done the same? Now?

Speaker 3 (02:04:40):
And listen, you know what's funny. I actually thought that
Huntley would be better. I don't know, I always had
a saft spot for Huntley and Baltimore. Man, he was yeah,
oh god, he was awful. I mean you know, I
mean he was missing by a mile. We you know,
the three touchdowns where Tyreek Hills behind the defense is shame.

Speaker 2 (02:05:04):
But you're puposed to right on, Like.

Speaker 4 (02:05:07):
Where are all those Ravens people that at the time
were saying, don't pay Lamar. We've got Huntley and look
at how good he was, Like, y'all, there's a reason
that backups are backups. There's a reason that organizations have
people internally that are smart, Like I'd just like to
take these moments to point out some of the stupidity.

Speaker 9 (02:05:24):
That's a good point, real good point, speaking stupidity Browns.

Speaker 3 (02:05:32):
Against Why I go to Washington and we'll be on
Watson watch. I gotta believe Washington's defense is terrible, and
if he's in a again, I gotta believe that's it.

Speaker 4 (02:05:45):
No, it has to be, should have already been it.
I mean, are the only fear that I would have
right now if I was the Cleveland Browns in the
entire world regarding Sean Watson, would be if I sit him,
does he retire? And the only reason I'm concerned if
he retires is because if he retires, that impacts my
salary cap. That's the only thing I care about right

(02:06:07):
now is how do I mitigate the financial loss of
this whole thing? And you know, sunking costs is real
and you've got for the Browns particularly, you've got ownership
that understands how to run a business. Now, you just
got to stop thinking about the football and you've got
to start thinking about the business. Doesn't matter what you've
invested here. You've got a quarterback that is wasting the

(02:06:29):
opportunity to win every single week, and you've got a
backup for him that, yeah, is turnover prone, but you've
got to back up that Jamis Winston. That we're talking
about a guy that locker rooms love, teams love playing
with it. He's got an infectious energy and vibe to
him that other players have always commented on, like he

(02:06:50):
is a leader in every sense of the stet and
talking about in football locker rooms like and I realize
that Jamis has had his fair share of issues way
back in the day, But we're talking about Jamis right now.
We're talking about somebody that players love playing for him,
playing with and they see how bad it is right now.
I mean, you can feel the vibe every time they
break a huddle. There is no pop, no explosion, no

(02:07:12):
like yeah we got this. There's no energy jogging onto
the field, like they feel lost from the minute the
drive starts. They need to make a change now. And
if you can't do it against this Washington defense, I
think Washington's gonna go out there and show out when
they do, this should be the end of the Deshaun
Watson era.

Speaker 3 (02:07:30):
Well, it's gonna be interesting because you know, Brown's defense
is still very, very good. You know, this will test
we talked earlier about Jane Daniels and Kingsbury and how
potent this offense is gonna.

Speaker 2 (02:07:46):
Be as been and how good they look.

Speaker 3 (02:07:49):
This will be an interesting test because Jim Schwartz is
a veteran defensive coordinator. He's got a lot of talent
on each side of the ball. He knows how to
do this. I'm curious because he's probably going to pressure
Jaden a lot. This should be a really interesting matchup.
That's one I really want to circle, which is Brown's

(02:08:10):
defense against the Washington offense. So that would be interesting.
Bill's Texas buddy. This is a great one. The Diggs game.
I gotta believe that Josh Allen comes back with a monster.

Speaker 4 (02:08:27):
Yeah. I mean, is it the Diggs game or is
it the Josh Allen game? And I think on both
sides they're feeling the same way, right like, Josh is
turning around saying, man like, I got something to show
the world, I got something, you know, to hand out
to the world, and Diggs is sitting there saying the
same exact thing. And you know, it's funny because I
got to give CJ. Stroud a lot of praise what

(02:08:48):
we've seen Diggs. We're out two quarterbacks, two nice guy
quarterbacks like and Kirk Cousins and Josh Allen, two guys
that are very like, casual, very low key. You know,
he wore them both out. So far. It's very early
in this but so far CJ. Stroud seems to be
able to handle all that comes with that. And you know,
the Texans, this is a big opportunity for the Texans

(02:09:10):
to make a statement. We've sort of anointed the Texans
as the great threat to the Chiefs because they're sexy
and new. This is a good chance to really see
which one of these teams is the great threat to
the Chiefs. And I know, you know, we can say,
I'll be.

Speaker 2 (02:09:24):
Honest with you, yet I'm underwround by the Texans.

Speaker 4 (02:09:27):
Now.

Speaker 3 (02:09:28):
I thought they would be much better both offensively and defensively,
so you know, just to recap the Week one, you
win in the twenty nine to twenty seven. Week two
you squeaked by the Bears and Caleb was terrible. Week
three you get pasted by Minnesota. Flora's had CJ in

(02:09:52):
the pretzel. And in last week you really should have
lost to Jacksonville. Jacksonville gave me that game.

Speaker 4 (02:10:02):
Yeah, well, and the heightened expectations. You know, if you're
the Texans. This is what happens when you have a quarterback,
right and when CJ. Stroud popped the way he popped,
everything about the entire organization and the way we perceive
them changes. Like, think about what's happening right now for Washington. Hell,

(02:10:22):
I was in Buffalo, wa Wings watching the game last week,
and people that weren't even Washington fans were just enamored
watching Jayden Daniels. When you get a quarterback, the way
everybody sees your team changes overnight. That's the inspiring part
of it. But to that end, you also then have
to continually back it up. They're three and one, not
all three and one's are created the same. I think

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we've seen in recent years examples of a team like
Philly that started hot and you rightfully question whether or
not they were as good as their record. The year
before that, we saw a team like Minnesota that was
running through everybody and we're like, no, they're not really
good guys. Like so there is some element of there's
a lot left to prove when you've been able to
feast on what the Texans have feasted on, and there's

(02:11:05):
not gonna be a lot of sympathy for them. They have.
They've got some tough games left on the schedule, so
they need to bank wins. But I mean, they still
have the Bills, they still have to go to Green Bay,
they still have to take on the Lions, they still
have to take on the Jets, the Cowboys, the Chiefs
they've got and the Ravens. They've got tough games left,
So they're going to prove whether or not they belong
over the course of the next couple of months.

Speaker 2 (02:11:25):
Yeah. No, that's a great point. Great point.

Speaker 9 (02:11:29):
Uh Bears Panthers kind of it kind of tells you
what that is trash. Yeah, Uh, Raiders, Bronco Dude, how
about the Broncos.

Speaker 3 (02:11:40):
How about Peyton? He's such a good coach, dude, that's
what you mean about coaches?

Speaker 4 (02:11:45):
League.

Speaker 2 (02:11:46):
He just wins.

Speaker 4 (02:11:48):
I mean, they won a game where their quarterback had
what one yard passing in the first half last week? Yes,
how do you do that? And yeah, I mean I
don't think the Broncos are particularly talented. They're good on
the defensive side of the ball. I don't think the
Broncos are a particularly talented team right now, and most
people would acknowledge they're in the middle of a rebuild.
But man, this is yet again that Sean Payton hasn't

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winning an ugly football game. I don't know what to
think about Nicks at this point. I don't think Bo's
really I didn't expect great things from him coming in.
I still don't expect great things from him, but I
do I think we all expect Sean Payton to write
this thing. And that's why I've been saying from the
get go. I think the Broncos are going to be fine.
I just think it's going to take a little time.

Speaker 2 (02:12:28):
They need.

Speaker 4 (02:12:30):
A change in talent throughout the course of this roster.
This is a big game for both of these Like
neither of these teams, the Broncos are the Raiders are
going to trick anyone to thinking that they're really particularly
good this year, but both of them have the chance
to remain relevant for a long time. There will come
a time in both of their seasons where the wheels
fall off and everybody realizes the season's over. How soon
that happens? I think a lot of that rests on

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this game. If Denver comes in and wins this game,
I wonder what you see from Vegas that right now,
who's just banged up? I meannumber of injuries is really
catastrophic for Vegas. That's the case for a lot of teams,
but they just don't have the depth. So if Vegas
loses this game, you got Davante, you got all these
the chaos going on. Does their seasons start to spiral?
If Vegas wins this game, if you're the Broncos, you

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continue this up and down roller coaster, And if you're Vegas,
you get this confidence of man, we won without Davante,
like we could do this repeatedly. Like I think this
game has a lot of bearing for two bad teams
throughout the course of the rest of the season.

Speaker 9 (02:13:27):
Yeah, man, uh huh. I'm completely with you. I'm completely
with you on that, I really am. I just feel
for you as a Raider fan, and I know that struggles.
It's they're like maddening. I mean, they're just a maddening team,
you know.

Speaker 4 (02:13:48):
Sometimes I always say that as fans, we have to
decide do we want to watch a team that's a
playoff team or a good football team. There's a big difference,
and playoff isn't necessarily sustainable. Good can be, you know,
so you got to decide which you're rooting for as
a Raiders fan. I don't know anymore if I'm rooting
for a playoff team or a good team. I think
I'm just rooting for a team that's not in the
news for all the wrong reasons. Like it's just it

(02:14:10):
gets The exhausting part is the narrative of here we
go again, the Raiders doing this, Like there's chaos again.
Like that's the exhausting part. Like it's already bad when
you avoid the TV shows because you don't want to
hear people talk about how bad your football team is.
But when you don't, when you're trying to avoid having
to listen to coverage constantly on how poorly run your

(02:14:30):
football team is, man that just wears it out. Like
that's the hardest part of being a fan of a
team that sucks at least, if your team stinks and
they're just awful but they don't have drama going on,
they just become irrelevant, so then you don't have to
listen to anything. The hardest part about being a Raiders
fan as a brand, They're always relevant, so the chaos
just continues to become more and more of a story.

Speaker 9 (02:14:50):
Yeah, man, that's a great point. All right, let's take
a quick time out. We'll come back.

Speaker 3 (02:14:55):
We'll have the brain end to make a look at
the weekend from a betting standpoint.

Speaker 2 (02:15:02):
We'll do that, Fellas, hanging right here Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 7 (02:15:11):
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an update.

Speaker 8 (02:16:18):
Yeah, major League Baseball Division Series set to get going
today in both leagues. But for the San Diego Padres,
they're gonna be without a key member of their starting
rotation against the Los Angeles Dodgers for this series and
for the rest of the postseason if they advance. That's
Joe Muskro If you had to leave Wednesday's Wildcard against
the Braves in the fourth inning due to discomfort and zebo,

(02:16:39):
he will now need a Tommy John surgery, so his
postseason is done and his entire twenty twenty five campaign
is in jeopardy as well as for the Mets, he'll
get going against the Phillies later this afternoon. Corde saying, yea,
we'll get the call for New York he'll be taking
the hill for number one. As for the action on

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the gridiron last night in college football, it's number six Oregon.
They remained undefeated, moved to six and oh as they
dominate Michigan State thirty one to ten. Dylan Gabriel three
total touchdowns, two of them passing, as the Ducks now
two to oher in their first ever conference campaign as
a member of the Big Ten. Number twenty five u

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NLV suffers their first loss of the season at Syracuse
wins at overtime forty four to forty one. And don't
look now, but the Orange now four and one and
very well could be looking at a top twenty five ranking.
And Houston beats TCU thirty to nineteen. So the horn
Frogs have a fallen a bit since their national championship
appearance a couple of years ago. They're now just one

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and two so far in Big Twelve play WNBA playoffs.
Last night, the Las Vegas Aces forced a fourth game
as they meet the Liberty ninety five eighty one a
double double by age of Wilson nineteen points and fourteen rebounds.
The Minnesota Links beat the Connecticut Sun ninety to eighty one.
Is Minnesota now ahead two to one in that best

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of five series. Some NFL injury notes leading into this
weekend slate of games. Packers wide receivers Christian Watson, Romeo
Dobbs doubtful to face the Rams on Sunday. Cooper Cup
has already been ruled out for that matchup by Los
Angeles as he is still dealing with his ankle injury.

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Davante Adams Jusina Anderson saying nothing going on between the
Raiders and Ravens about a trade involving Adams despite his
social media posts involving Edgar Allan Poe, but he will
not be on the field on Sunday as he against
the Denver Broncos as he's got a hamstring injury but
still away from the team as he's trying to work

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out a trade, and sa Mere White not gonna be
there either. Three time Pro Bowl defensive end Max Crosby
is questionable and for the Colts, Anthony Richardson questionable. Jonathan Taylor,
though has been ruled out. Kenny Moore and defensive Enda
Quitty Pay also have been ruled out for the forty
nine Ers. George Kittle, Fred Warner, Listen asked questionable for

(02:19:11):
Sunday's game.

Speaker 9 (02:19:12):
Back to you guys, all right, Felta's Jason Fitz, Anthony
Gargano and now the Brain.

Speaker 2 (02:19:20):
Welcome Brain, Good morning.

Speaker 5 (02:19:22):
Hey buddy. How are you a big, big, big sports day.

Speaker 2 (02:19:27):
Yeah, I mean, you know, it's a it's a great one.

Speaker 9 (02:19:30):
We were talking about earlier, you know, between college football, Tomarty,
NFL and all the baseball.

Speaker 2 (02:19:36):
It's it's a lot of fun. Man, It's it's it's
gonna be big. So let's get jump right into it.

Speaker 3 (02:19:41):
Let's go college football first, buddy, and let's look at
the early game Penn State Ucla. We both Fitty and
I were like, you know, this has got the Penn
State flex written all over it.

Speaker 5 (02:19:55):
Yeah. I mean, listen, this UCLA team not very you know,
not a very good team for sure, you know district
and Penn State. I definitely think this is a team
that's going to make the playoffs for sure. The question
is to me, is you know, is this a team
that actually does have it in them to actually win

(02:20:19):
a national championship game. I actually made this line honestly
closer to twenty eight. But here's the thing, like I
got for I will say, if I had one a
big bet on LSU against UCLA. I just I don't
think you still he's really good at all.

Speaker 3 (02:20:36):
Yeah, they struggled in that game. I remember like they
they kind of were. I guess they they got some
margin at the end, but they didn't cover.

Speaker 5 (02:20:46):
Yeah. Garbridge's question, Well, here's the thing, James Franklin, as
we know one thing about this guy. I don't know
if it's whatever it is whenever he plays, but every
he seems to play laking for your competition. He seems
to take care of business and win those games by margin.
For whatever reason, they seem to do well. You know,
when games are supposed to do well in Penn State rarely,

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you know, they don't usually my an egg, it's usually
when they face the better competition they struggle as much.
The only way I could look at this game is
the Pen State side. But it's not a game I
personally been off.

Speaker 4 (02:21:19):
Speaking of level of competition, we were talking earlier about
Ohio State and who they haven't played so far this year.
I mean, we can give some credit to Michigan State,
but not really. So now they're taking on an Iowa
team that still can't find a quarterback. Still can't play offense, Like,
how do you see that game?

Speaker 5 (02:21:36):
You know, it's funny. I have not been that impressed
with Ohio State. It's funny you look at them and like,
the scores look okay and everything, but it's just seems
something missing a little bit that being set again, Iowa again,
it's amazing you it's crazy. Well now Michigan's going through it.
I shouldn't even make full of them, but when it's
amazing tools like I always not had a good quarterback.

Speaker 3 (02:21:57):
It's like Chuck Long, but I mean it's long.

Speaker 5 (02:22:05):
You know, it's funny, but it's funny about it for
a team that's obviously Farrence has had like tremendous success,
tremendous success for a team that's had the success the
are for as good a program as they are, I
find it fascinating that they have not been able to
get any quarterback who can't do anything, and yet he's

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still war with defense and I get they just play
what listens. I thought this line should be about eighteen.
It's sitting right route there now. Carol Johnson is good.
I do like him, like I actually do think that
I was at least a little improved because they can
at least vulnerable. But this is again another another pass
for me. I have a feeling that there's gonna be

(02:22:48):
a game to pick against Ohio States. I think they're
not quite as good as everyone thinks. But again I
don't know if I could trust Iowa to be that
team that gets done.

Speaker 2 (02:22:58):
Does Georgia come back with a flex or?

Speaker 5 (02:23:02):
That was again that was what first of what a
what a great game? I mean, what what a great
like incredible game to Auburn to me? But I like
the Georgia side. I do so listen they Yeah, they
get behind twenty eight nothing albur to me. Know, the
even losing record despite being favored in all five games,

(02:23:24):
that's just I don't know. That's not good to me. Again,
bigger spread game that will't necessarily look for everybody I
think gets there. I think Georgia does get it done
in a bounce back. But again I think there's other
better games to attack them.

Speaker 4 (02:23:39):
That one you mentioned, there's other better games. What what
game stands out to you that you really want to Well, I'll.

Speaker 5 (02:23:44):
Give you a couple of games I really like. Uh,
look the Washington Michigan game. Again, that's then they could
tell you many things. I'm not a homer. Okay, I
say how I feel. For better words, I went to Michigan.
I love Michigan, but I love Washington in this particular game. Michigan,
to me again, it's just a very tough recipe to

(02:24:05):
win when you can't sold for more than twenty five
yards a game passing. I mean it's they did it
against Penn State last year when they ran the ball
thirty four straight times in the second half and the
one again. I just think it's a very tough for recipe.
I Washington. While this is not the Washington team we
saw last year with the great Michael Pennocks and those
great wide receivers, is it you believe in? It is

(02:24:27):
a revenge game. Certainly, you know they lose a national championship.
But I think Washington. I think Washington is actually the
better team because I think they can't score at home
here you lay a point and a half. I think
they win this game. Any will be full Nott closed,
don't get me wrong, but I just don't trust Michigan
to score anything. And Washington's defense actually played well this year.

(02:24:47):
On top of it. I think Washington wins this game.
You know by you know at least is actually at
least a pet year, I really do. I like Washington.
Another game that I'll give you guys that I you know,
but I think has some value, and it is Louisville
over SMU. You know, Smude, the quarterback change guys they

(02:25:08):
got rid of you know, Preston Stone went more athletic quarterback,
but date been lucky. Dave had five nine offensive touchdowns
this year SMU, which is in my opinion, made them
look better than they really are. Louisville last week, despite
losing the noted name, really actually out played them. And
I thought I was actually on the Notre Dame side

(02:25:29):
last week and Noting covered. But Louisville actually to meat
looked like every bit is the same good team laying
left in a touchdown this week. I like Louisville bailer
against Iowa State, guys, I think Baylor can win this
game outright to me, Iowa State will give you a
complimty like the Pittsburgh Steelers in the NFL, where they're

(02:25:50):
really good on defense, really well coached, but lane eleven
and a half points with the team that may not
even score eleven and a half points. I have no
interest in that. They just they're just not good offensively.
And you know, look they today I brought party back,
that's what they could use. But I think bail are
actually is a chance to win this game out right,

(02:26:11):
Guys getting double digits, I'm not I don't know. I
think that's just too many points.

Speaker 2 (02:26:19):
All right, let me ask you to let's go at
fl all right. Yeah, And.

Speaker 3 (02:26:25):
I'm curious that the early game the Jets, we were
talking about the mystery that is the Jets and the
Jets offense because Rogers and Garrett Wilson not on the
same page, uh min. You know obviously the Vikings and Darnold.
We talk about pocket quarterbacks and the success. And we
saw the other night with Baker and Causes a strong

(02:26:46):
for five hundred. So what do you like in London
Sunday morning?

Speaker 5 (02:26:52):
You don't listen again, Anthony. I usually try to like
still my work, so to speak, in games, of why
I like a game, And you know, here's a good reason.
You may you know, you can look at it, agree, disagree,
but here's why. Look, if you watch they watch these
teams play through four games, you know you're just being
totally objective about it. Minnesota has clearly been the better team.
They looked great all four games. Donald has played great

(02:27:16):
all four games. Aaron Jones, justin Jefferson, Brian Floor's defensive coordinator.
I think it's made all the difference in the world
to helping this with Minisoda team. So who do I
I kind of just think the Jets are going to
win this one. I can't show my word. It's just
like losing that game to Denver last week, having to
go through all the like just the media with losing

(02:27:38):
a game as as an eight point favor how bad
they just played, and all the dysfunction the teams to go.
I don't know how solid still is a job. On
a side note, but I think they can maybe muster
and this again their schedule stuff. They play the Bills
after this, But not a game I bet. Not a
game I bet, but I do lean the Jets here
getting the two and a half.

Speaker 4 (02:27:59):
I ask you the same thing with the NFL slate.
You said, not a game you bet. Is there a
game that you eagerly bet on the NFL's late Yeah,
well right, Look.

Speaker 5 (02:28:06):
A couple of games Green Bay Lang three against the Rams. Look,
I think, first of all, but there is no home
field for the Rams. This will be a home game
for green Bay. And look, I love Stafford, I love McVeigh,
but they're just you know, you chop their legs out
with really just you know, you take away Cooper cup
and poop and akua. That that's what you've done. And

(02:28:26):
I think green Bay is good. I know they fall
behind twenty nothing last week, guys. You know I actually
cut up twenty to twenty two. But I like Lafleur
as the coach as well. I like to it and
lovel as a quarterback. I trust this team will be
able to score twenty four plus points. Okay, I really
trust it. Do I trust the Rams able to keep up?

Speaker 3 (02:28:44):
No?

Speaker 5 (02:28:44):
I don't. I actually thought that Flowing should have been
at least a point higher. I actually thought it should
have been four and a half, laying three. I really
think that short, guys, I do another game that I
will give you.

Speaker 3 (02:28:56):
Now.

Speaker 5 (02:28:57):
Look, this is a game. It's hold your breath, I mean,
told your nose kind of game. But I think that
Cleveland plus three and a half against Washington. I know
Daniels has been magnificent.

Speaker 3 (02:29:10):
I mean, yeah, we talked about that's in fact earlier
because as much as we you know, can't stand away
Deshaul Watson's playing. Is that anybody if they're ever going
to move the ball, it should be against this offense.

Speaker 2 (02:29:25):
Is Chubb.

Speaker 3 (02:29:25):
I didn't see yet, did Chubb? Any word on Chubb?
I think he's gonna be back next week?

Speaker 5 (02:29:29):
Well, he's still weeks of andy.

Speaker 2 (02:29:32):
He's star about next week is a possibility.

Speaker 5 (02:29:35):
Oh, I did not see that. I thought I read
he was maybe potentially coming back to like practice, but
I thought he was still quote unquote weeks away. But listen, obviously,
look I'm moving to that guy like you wouldn't believe.
I mean, I wouldn't. Chubb dominated in this game. Anthony
talk about matchups, and I kind of agree with you,
Like I think this is probably the best defense Daniels's face,
and I think this is the easiest defense that Watson

(02:29:59):
the face. And this game was before the year. Cleveland
would be favored a big adjustment, justifiably, So.

Speaker 2 (02:30:05):
I get it.

Speaker 5 (02:30:06):
But I actually think Cleveland's going to maybe win this
one out right. And here's the key. I'm getting three
and a half, not three. I'm gonna take my chances
and then no because you know, maybe you talk. This
is the one Yame we did talk off air, and
like I know you were on a Buffalo side against Houston.
I think Houston beats Buffalo in Houston. Buffalo and a
lot of injuries now, Anthony, that just got added late,

(02:30:27):
which really makes me like it and even a little
bit more. I think at home again, I think Houston's
every bit as good as Buffalo, not even as spec
worse with the injuries Buffalo has at home and basically
laying only one point, I think they get that done.
I'll give you a couple of those real quick guys.
Denver laying two and a half against the Raiders, I
think I have a great coach coming off a high

(02:30:49):
against a team and to me is completely dysfunctional. I
know there are two and two, but the Raiders, to me,
I just don't want any part of that. And to me, again,
I have a great infrastructure, great coach with Peyton, I
think they get it done with the Raiders. I think
I think seven starters and Max Causy may not play
as well. I thought that should have been at least three.
And I'll give you another one. On the night game.

(02:31:10):
I think the Steelers laying two and a half about
a dollar twenty Yeah, yeah, I do this about Parsons
and Law.

Speaker 3 (02:31:20):
Again, this is a team that MESI, you're not a
good run stopping team anyway, and I take Mike out
of it, forget.

Speaker 5 (02:31:28):
About it, exactly. This is a team that means over
like I'll be honest, I think the talent level and
the team is very overrated right now. For Back's a
good quarterback and Lamb's a really good receiver. I don't
see much else on Dallas, No, I know.

Speaker 2 (02:31:43):
I agree. Hey, before you get that, I got to
answer about baseball. Yep, all right, let's go through it quickly.
Who do you like and start?

Speaker 3 (02:31:52):
I gotta start with Phillips, Metts, Senga gets to start. Now,
he's only going to be able to go a couple
in exactly.

Speaker 5 (02:32:00):
Yeah, it's funny. I mean I text him like, whoa,
how did the same thing? How did the meth keep
this undercover? So to speak? But listen, he's probably only
gonna go, you know, through three innings. Look, I will
just look xact Wheeler. I'd see Dan Phillies have in
the series. But again, you know, maybe a little bit
new tries for fiction a little bit, but I think
the Phillies definitely should win this series. Anthony, but again,

(02:32:23):
the series price to me is priced very high. You're
shopping at Tiffany, so to speak. It's extremely high. Uh,
only why I can look in the series price will
be the Mets. But I do think the Phillies win
the series. I'm not personally betting the series. I think
Kansas City Guys is live against the Yankees. I really do.
Who are the Yankees? I mean they have a two

(02:32:44):
great hitters, no doubt about it. But Kin City can
beat this team. I I again, I'm not predicting it,
but getting almost two to one of I think.

Speaker 2 (02:32:53):
The Howard Man that's gonna be awesome.

Speaker 5 (02:32:55):
That's gonna be a great one. Obviously tough loss, losing muscle.
I'll give you a prop. I found guys, and I
of you one and I really like here. And it's
a long shot debt though for everyone listening, Uh, this
is one I think, you know, maybe take a shot
on if it wins, and maybe you could take a
trip to Europe or something like that, because that's going
to pay a nice payout. There's two different ones you
can do here and my fantasy team, I had Jazz

(02:33:17):
Chisholm on my team. Why is that relevant Because I
followed jazz Chism a lot because I was in the
contention of the last thing I think. And you know what,
jazz Chism did a lot when he got to the Yankees.
He ran like a demon. Eighteen stolen bases in forty
six games. They had a thing on and this is
all off basically all the big fights, but will have
the most stolen bases in this series. He should be
a massive favorite. He should be a big favorite. He

(02:33:39):
is the guy who has the best stolen based percentage
for him more than Michael Garcia. He's plus six hundred
to have the most steals in the series. He should
be the favorite. They have wit like plus a dollar
thirty one ridiculous. We're at thirty one steals. This guy
eighteen and half a season. I've had eighteen and like that.
He's on a paste like six something. This is an

(02:34:01):
incredible bet six to one odds. Or you can take
a plus over one and a half steels plus five hundred.

Speaker 2 (02:34:06):
I like that.

Speaker 5 (02:34:07):
That's actually the better bet because if somehow both guys
get two, you win. You don't have to worry about
splitting the six to one pot. But those are two
long shot debts. Guys. Again, we'll getting five to one
and getting six to one. That I think the odds
are at least double what they should be.

Speaker 3 (02:34:21):
That's good stuff, Bob Brother, Well, what's your great luck
over the weekend. Enjoy all the great sports, all right,
we appreciate it as always, brain all right.

Speaker 5 (02:34:31):
Oh yeah, and Zach Wheeler over seventeen and a half
outs another good bet. Eleven in a row. It'll be
twelve to roero lefter today.

Speaker 2 (02:34:36):
Yeah, I like that a lot. That's very good.

Speaker 5 (02:34:39):
All right.

Speaker 3 (02:34:39):
We'll come back fifty nine to wrap it up. Coming
up next Fellas on Fox. All right, welcome back Fellas
Live fromthty rack dot com Studios. Jason fitz Anthony gargantto
what's uh. By the way, I gotta thank our fine

(02:35:01):
production team Brianna, who is terrific, and of course Mighty
Mighty Mighty Mark are two incredible producers, so we thank them.
They're like family to us. All right, Fitzig, what are
you looking forward to most this weekend? I mean, I
got a whole baseball thing that I'm going to be

(02:35:24):
about this weekend.

Speaker 2 (02:35:26):
It's interesting.

Speaker 3 (02:35:26):
The Eagles are on a buy right, so it works
out perfectly for me because the Phillies play at four o'clock.
So it's actually, yeah, people in Philadelphia very excited because
you have something.

Speaker 4 (02:35:40):
You have your team playing God and that's it's glorious
for you. Because I usually hate bye weeks, by the way,
like bye weeks are the worst when you know that
there's football and you don't have any to participate in.
I hate bye week so much. Is my annual reminder
to Roger Goodell. Roger, call me play eight games, take
a week off for the entire league in the of
the season, then play nine more. That's the fair way

(02:36:02):
to do it. Also, we can all just find like
they can make that one weekend take off, make that
rivalry week in college football, give us games on Friday, Saturday, Sunday,
Monday in college football. Play nice with everybody else in
the sandbox, and then we don't have to go through
this torture every single week. That's just my annual reminder, Rodger,
just call me. I'll help you fix the league for me.
I think it's kind of an interesting weekend and it's

(02:36:24):
a good weekend for baseball, by the way, because if
you're asking me, usually I'd be sitting here saying, well,
Bill's Texans is probably the best NFL game. I think
Tennessee Arkansas is a game in general that I have
my eye on that I'm interested in. But if I'm
sitting around saying, like, what is the the thing to
watch this weekend? What is the absolute can't miss? Is

(02:36:46):
it not show Hey?

Speaker 5 (02:36:47):
Like?

Speaker 4 (02:36:48):
Is it not like and again I'm not usually baseball guy,
but is it not like seeing show Hey play the
Padres in a playoff game? Like that just feels feels special, different,
feels like I'm gonna be sitting there tonight and like
just veering over to it and it's like all right,
let me know, like look at it, look at my phone,
see when he's at bat, and then just coming up

(02:37:09):
to it, Like it just feels like show Hey making
his playoff debut is probably the most significant thing happening
in sports this weekend, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (02:37:17):
Yeah? I completely agree. Just I'm completely with you, Yeah,
completely with you.

Speaker 3 (02:37:23):
You know, I mean it it's first of all, that
series is so good, right, it's too you know, it's
neighboring teams, it's rivals. Uh, the way both teams go
at it, it's show Hey, they're both great. I mean Geese,

(02:37:44):
I mean, you know, I think that's just even as
you get I love the Padres, so I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (02:37:51):
I think that's just I mean, that's a big time,
big time but big time game.

Speaker 4 (02:37:56):
Yeah. And by the way, I think today the quadruple header, like,
there's an interesting Detroit's become America's team in so many ways.
The Mets Phillies is just a rivalry people care about.
Can the Royals take down the Yankees? The debut of
show Hey, Like, this is a killer day for baseball.
Even if you're not a baseball fan, this is the
a killer day for baseball. It is it's it's, you know,

(02:38:20):
the good thing for base saying the baseball come.

Speaker 2 (02:38:21):
On, yeah, I love that. I'm so proud of you.
I love that you're doing that.

Speaker 3 (02:38:27):
Hey, and listen, part of you, part of what you're
saying too, is you know, like next week is the
big college football, but this schedule is pretty light.

Speaker 2 (02:38:36):
This is a good time for baseball to be on
the forefront.

Speaker 4 (02:38:41):
One thousand percent. Like, this is a great time for
baseball to really capture people. I think they have the
opportunity today. There's dramatic storylines everywhere.

Speaker 3 (02:38:48):
I know it's a good doing for us. Everybody, have
a great, great weekend. We love you guys. We'll see
it next Saturday.

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