The Bernie Fratto Show Discusses NCAA Football Week 6, NFL 18-Week Season, Lincoln Riley, and So Much More!

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buying should be. Do I have to say it again?
I've said a bad nauseum. You may be sick of
hearing it, but it rings true. Sports continue to be
the greatest reality show and you can script everything but
the ending. And what's interesting for those who said that

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the regular season college football might lose its intensity due
to the expanded playoff, notwithstanding the fact there's so much
more to play for than just a bid. You can
host a first round game, you can get a bye,
you can host a game on your campus, all of
those things. Well, I don't agree with that premise, and

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I never did. And if you happen to observe the
drama stacked upon drama on Saturday, maybe you'll come around
to my way of thinking. We just finished up Colorado
Kansas State. Tell me there wasn't drama. Alabama, South Carolina
more drama. LSU and Old Miss plenty of drama and

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the two biggest high drama games of the day. One
clearly has to do with Penn State. USC has to
because there's a word cult expectations. And when Lincoln Riley
took over for USC three years ago, with all due
respect to Colin Coward, I'm quite sure that Lincoln was

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not only gonna go undefeated at USC and never give
up a point, he was going to create peace in
the Middle East and find a cure for cancer and
sell popcorn at halftime. How's that worked out? He's eleven
and ten, Lincoln Riley eleven and ten in his last
twenty one games, five and eight in his last thirteen.
Up next at Maryland, that is gonna be no picnic.

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And by the way, I don't buy this crap about
getting on a plane and you fly three thousand miles
and YadA, YadA, yat. If you're the better team, you're
gonna win. Hell. I remember back in Yeah, people act
like this is brand new. You know, everybody talks about
that great Appalachian State upset at Michigan back on September one,
two thousand and seven. I know I was there. I

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covered the game. Nobody talks about. The following week, Oregon
and Dennis Dixon, their quarterback, got on a plane flew
twenty five hundred miles to Michigan and opened up a
complete can of whoop ass on Lloyd Carr's Wolverines. But
flying wasn't a big deal then. SC used to routinely
fly at Alabama, Auburn, Arkansas, Oregon would go to Ohio State.

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They forget it. You're the better team, you win. And
you know what, Penn State was the better team Saturday,
weren't they They did what they needed to do when
they needed to do it. And the twoth of the
matter is, I'm curious. Now SC's three and three. They've
still got to travel to Maryland to Washington and technically
two EUCLA, and then they've got home games against Rutgers, Nebraska,

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and Notre Dame. They'll be surprised if they go two
and four and those and end up five and seven. Yeah,
I really believe that could happen. But let's talk Oregon,
Ohio State, Will Howard, It's all good. Yeah, sure it is. Well,
it kinda is, because actually Ohio State still has everything
in front of them that they had before the Yorican game.

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If they do it they believe they can and should do,
and run the table. They'll have no trouble with Michigan.
I gotta go to Penn State, but you know, Penn
State's got it in their DNA. They can't beat Ohio
State Michigan. I don't see that changing. Ohio State advances
to the Big Ten Championship game, they might run into
Oregon again. This time they would be in Indianapolis. But

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I'm getting ahead of myself because I was wrong. I
was wrong. People kept telling me, how do you know
Ohio State's any good? I said, well, their defense is
given up six points a game, and I think they
play with their food. But their offense looks like an
NFL offense except for you know, it's all good Will Howard.
I can't believe. I can't imagine what dak Prescott Mike

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McCarthy must have been saying when they were watching the game.
Insert your own joke there. But I guess it turns
out the likes of Akron and Western Michigan and Marshall
and Michigan State and Iowa. Maybe they're not the best
indicator of how dominant defensive unit can be. Yes, Ohio
State entered place Saturday, leading the nation only allowing six
point seven points a game. But Oregon and believe me,

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Ottson Stadium can tune it up with the best of them.
Used to say, you know, coming from autsin Minnister, so
this show is going to be licked well, coming from
Watson Stadium. It was turned look it up, youngins. The
folks in Eugene in Oregon put up thirty two points
in almost five hundred yards on the Buckeyes. Dylan Gabriel
top credit once again rose to the occasion. It was

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his first real big game of that kind of importance
with Oregon. Threw for three forty one two touchdowns, ran
for thirty two, and scored on the ground. Dan Lanning
needed this. Dan Lanning needed this. There's been a series
of tough losses to Washington and Georgia over the past
couple of seasons, and all of a sudden, Oregon sitting
fat and pretty through seven weeks on top of the

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Big Ten. They are as close to a guaranteed spot
in the twelf teen playoffs as there is in the
country now with them in Texas. Meanwhile, while Dan Lanning
earns his biggest win yet, Ryan Day earns more questions
just the way it is now, was Ohio State out
plate No, not at all. As matter of fact, they
should be committed for a very strong performance in a

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very tough road environment. But the Buckeyes will get on
that long trip home. Maybe they'll show a movie on
the flight, maybe a little nache. Yet another loss versus
a highly ranked opponent, that's a setback drops Ryan Day
nawdu one in seven against top five teams during his tenure,
owned five since twenty twenty one against Oregon and Michigan. Now,

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as far as Saturday Night's performance, if you watched it
objectively hard to find too many faults with Ohio State's
performance in Oregon Big ten teams and only inter the
week with a one and eight record when having to
travel at least two time zones. But go back and
look at the matchups. Okay, the better teams won Indiana
was the team that beat e CLA. Forget it. I

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don't even want to have this argument tonight. It's a
shock nobody if Oregon and Ohio State meet up again
in the Big Ten ten game. However, they brought in
Ryan Day and paid him a hefty salary to win
these kinds of mess stick games. I hate to split
Harris with the guy. I don't want to go to
the Wharton Lincoln's nose and fine fault. But this is

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a dominant defense. The Ducks moved the ball time and
time again whenever they needed to, and they put up,
you know, gaudy numbers under just around five hundred yards
thirty two points season worst performance for Ohio State, and
that's been the theme of Ryan Day's top five losses.
In those losses, the opposition averages thirty four points per game.
In those matchups. He had his hand pit quarterback Will Howard.

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He was brought in for his running ability, to experience,
and when Ohio State drove down the field almost for
a game tying checked at a game winning field goal almost,
well that's why they brought Will Howard in. And remember
two series before, Will Howard dropped a perfect snap right
to him and instead of a third and short, fourth
and short day or fourth and long, they had to punt.

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By the way, Will Howard was supposed to have a
running ability. He only rushed for thirteen yards and did
get down the field enough time to allow for a
potential game winning field goal. Just talked about that. That's
a kind of mistake you might expect from a freshman quarterback,
not a guy like Will Howard who's had thirty four starts.
But it's all good, right, Well, well it actually is.

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That's why this new playoff format is so cool. Hio
State's not done. Their future games are meaningful, even more
meaningful now. Whereas if it had been the BCS, you
could stick a fork in them maybe probably, or even
the made for TV Invitational four team tournament they'd have been,
you know, had one foot in the grave and the
other on a banana peal. There too, no more margin

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of error, by the way, real quickly. Give it up
to Penn State to knock on James Franklin during his
tenure his team's inability to win the biggest games on
their schedule. Give it up. Franklin found a solution, at
least for Saturday. Give the ball to Tyler Warren. Oh baby,
what a beast. Two hundred and forty four yards the

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overtime win matching the all time single game tight end
record with seventeen catches, seventeen grabs, and his ear extends
catching the ball. He also threw for a nine yard
passing a trick play. It even ran for four yards.
How was their twenty five hundred mile flight to Los
Angeles including a bus commute for ninety minutes Because he
can't get out of Happy Valley. He can't get there

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for me. He just can't do it. Once again, the
better team won and I give it up to Penn
State down two touchdowns at the halftime. This is an
m you may never hear of. You may never hear
of it again. It's the offensive coordinator at Penn State.
His name's Andy Kootle Niki. He drew up a great
plan in the second half to get the thing jump started.
Incredible grab by Warren that really jolted Penn State to life.

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The back and forth and ended with once again. I
tweeted out last week, this is the DNA of Lincoln
Riley teams. When you need to make a play in
the heat of battle, when the heat gets hot and
it's hard to breathe to win the game, they don't
do it. They don't do it. Spot the line, so
between Texas and Oregon. By the way, Texas has Georgia

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on deck. Oklahoma that offense could score the women's prison
with a fifth full of fifties. And I know Alabama's
sort of become a drama king, but at least day one.
Welcome to college football twenty twenty four. We're here for it.
You know what else, We're here for the Phasiic five
coming up in eight hours and forty nine minutes. The
full slate of the NFL coming up in a little

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over seven hours. We got a London game. We're going
to cover it all the Phasik five. Get your pens
and pencils ready. You'll be drinking through a fire hose
and you know the drill, especially if you like the NFL.
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It's the Physick five. These are the five things you
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Speaker 1 (11:32):
Here's Bernie Fratto.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
So let's dive right in. Let's tackle a subject matter
matter near and dear to your heart. And that's when
you have a crossover favorite. When a team starts out
as a dog and thanks to the Betty markets, they
become a favorite. Such is the case with Jacksonville. They're
now one point favorite of Chicago. The game kicks off
here in about seven hours at London. And something you

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probably already know Jacksonville. Each one of their opponents when
playing Jacksonville this year has managed to gain their highest
yardage in any game. Your thoughts heading into Chicago.

Speaker 4 (12:10):
Jacksonville, so obviously a great spot for Jacksonville. They're used
to the London trip one, two and zero. Last year,
Chicago left early, Jacksonville late. They're going to be in
London all week, so they should be fully focused on
this game. But you know what, Bernie, nothing has changed.
All this was true back on Wednesday, and you could
have got Jacksonville plus two. You could have teased Jacksonville

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plus two up to plus eight, and that's when you
should have been investing in Jacksonville. So now you fast
forward to it's late Saturday night and the Bears just
flipped up to you know, DraftKings actually has the Bears
plus one a half now, So now it's time to pivot.
And if you're going to invest in this game, you
want to look to play the Bears. No, hurry on it,
because all the followers have got the memo that Jacksonville

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is the right side. Now they were the right side,
but now it's too late because now that Jacksonville's favored.
I personally bet Jacksonville big earlier in the week, and
now I'll be betting Bears. Write a post right before
the game starts. I'll be teasing Bears from plus one
and a half up to plus seven a half and
betting some Bears plus one and a half.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
It's you could get yourself in a middle of there.
Like I said, soimp teemed to watch. Not that I
want the Bears to ever get any of my money,
but the Jags have allowed season high yardage in every
game they played against your opponents this weekend another crossover fit.
Go ahead, you gonna say something.

Speaker 4 (13:29):
Oh, and the Bears offense has been terrible this year,
but it has shown signs of life the last two weeks.
Last week it was good. The week before against the
Rams it started to wake up.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Okay, we'll see if they come out of their coma.
The Tennessee Titans also fall in that category. Interestingly enough,
the Titans are a team that held three of its
four opponents to season low yardage this campaign. But if
I understand you correctly, you'll be fading the Titans.

Speaker 4 (13:57):
Yeah, well, I bet the Titans plus one. And by
the way, people can disagree with me, and all I
can say is I've worked for multiple betting syndicates, and
I assure you all of us with those syndicates, we've
made lots and lots of money, and we'd all have
the same conclusion. It's as simple as the aid of
Club's method of betting. You write down the lines on
Monday when they first come out, Bernie, and when they

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moved three points, you would never ever back the movement.
Now it's time to fade the movement. So if you
like tennessee what has really changed. Okay, you know, Johnson
Tailer got hurt and a wide receiver is injured for
the Colts, but the Titans were plus one, so you
had all week to take Titans plus one. And now
the Titans scripts at three and Will Levis is going

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to start the worst of their two quarterbacks, So Colts
plus three. I'm getting rather interested in tas.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Let me give you a quick counterpoint. We go back
so long you put up with mightiosecrecies. When I handicap,
I take into account technical aspects which you have just
so eloquently outlined, and I take into acoun fundamental aspects
what my eyes tell me, and I won't go down
that rabbit hole. Here's a quick quiz for you, fez,
which NFL team owns the number one ranked overall defense

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this season. Here's a Titans, Bam winner winner to help
yourself to some cookies out of petty cash. People might
guess it's the Ravens, the Texans of the Jets. No,
it's the Titans, and they get to go up against
the venerable Anthony Richardson remember that one game last year?
Or Andertin Richardson drop back and sat in the pocket,
just picked apart the defense. No, neither do I. So anyway,

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it's not a game I want to be involved in.
But I love the back and forth and fees. That's
why you're the two time contest winner. But I'm dubious
about both of those. I'm just being honest, my friend.

Speaker 4 (15:42):
And again I make the case all this is true.
So where were your Wednesday? Everybody? If you love the
Titans to it, there you go.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Now you're making sense.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
Have been smoking dope on Monday and Tuesday? You should
have been betting the Titans when they were the underdog.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Well, Fez, there's not a dot in my mind. After
you exitus Earth after one hundred and twenty glarious years,
which I believe will live to be your tombstone is
going to say, what was your closing line value?

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Huh?

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Tell? Me what your closing line value was.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
Right, and some people may not know what closing line
value even is. And basically, the efficient market hypothesis, if
we use economic terms, means that whatever the number is
that closes in the NFL right before the games start
is a pretty darn efficient number. So if you're going
to want to win, you probably want to in the
long run, have numbers for your actual bets that are

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superior to that number. Now, people come over the top burning,
They'll say, well, wait, Fez, how the heck can I win?
Then right when the games are kicking off, if you
can't win against the closing numbers, and I'll respond exactly,
that's why you don't bet right before the games start,
thank you.

Speaker 5 (16:46):
Hey.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
It's real simple people. If you're going to the store,
the sporting goods store to buy tennis balls, and they're
on sale this weekend for nine to ninety nine and
they go back up to fifteen nine to nine on Monday,
what are you going to do your shopping face?

Speaker 4 (17:00):
Yeah, Well, if I'm playing tennis against Gil Alexander that
morning on Monday, because I gotta have balls to play.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
For, you're gonna pay the extra six dollars is what
you're saying you're gonna instead at nine to ninety nine.

Speaker 4 (17:11):
Well, obviously I need I should plan it.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
By the way, Mark, Mark, get the rim shot ready, Fez.
You know there's a sale this week at at the
sporting goods store on tennis balls. Oh yeah, first come,
first serve. There you go, thanks Mark, Like, nicely done.
That's teamwork, my friend. Okay, here all week, Faz, don't
forget to try to semi bonus spaghetti tip those waiters
and waitresses. Let's go to New England, fes. By the way,

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nine home dogs this week, Fesz, how do you feel
about that? All right? The New England Patriots catching seven.
By the way, the Texans start to pay a Houston tax.
I think Owen two is a road favorite. Drake May
makes his first career start. Don't look now, Fez. The
Texans have nine players on the injury report. I think
the window might be a sharp play here.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
Yeah, the problem is they're New England. Here's my issue.
And there are sharps that are in New England that
took the plus seven. But you can't get plus seven anymore,
Bernie tomorrow you might all right, So and When I
say get plus seven, that means if I don't say
the big that means plus seven, lay a dollar ten.
If that pops up, you're with some sharp company and

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you can invest in it. But my problem, Bernie's I
really think Carolina and New England are both going to
win three games only, and because of that, my goodness,
it's going to be hard to find good spots to
invest in the moment of pass.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
I think the books are going to need the Patriots,
but I am also passing Washington visits Baltimore in the
Beltway Battle. How's that for a literation. Ravens land six
and a half. Don't look now. The Commandos have covered
four straight. The Ravens have covered three straight. Both teams
are over machines combined eight and two to the over Washington,

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number one in the NFL, averaging thirty one points a game,
twenty first rank, defensively allowing twenty three. I want nothing
to do with this game, but I know a lot
of people who like Baltimore.

Speaker 4 (19:03):
You know, there's gonna be a lot of running from
Baltimore and they're probably gonna have success. I'm gonna like,
look at the prop market. I'm gonna look at props
for a high scoring game. Probably look towards puns under seven,
shortest touchdown under one and a half, things like that
for a game that I think both sides are going
to have success moving the ball, all right, A.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Game I'm very interested in. The Cowboys another home dog
one to nine, catching three against Detroit. The Cowboys have
only been a home underdog, well only thirteen times in
the Dak Prescott era, but they've covered nine of them,
nine and four. Lions three and one against a number
though after a bye week in the Dan Campbell era,
and not enough has talked about the Lions. They're number

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three against the run defensively. I think it's going to
be a nice wrestling match. Your thoughts, So.

Speaker 4 (19:49):
I make the game three point two five, which means
basically the current market is three point twenty five. There's
threes and there's three and a half. So if you
like Detroit, I would bet them three, and I say
minus three minus fifteen at MGM right now that you
can wager on, I bet it right now. I'm confident
this line's going to go up to three and a half.

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If you like Dallas, I would wait until the game's
about to kick off. I'm equally confident you will get
those Cowboys, not only at plus three and a half, Bernie,
you might not even have to lay the full minus
one ten. So wait, if you're going to bet on
the Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
And what did you make that line?

Speaker 4 (20:23):
Finz three point two?

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Furnass burnass? You know that coin science with my GPA
back in the fourth grade for three best years of
my life. All right, we move on. Tampa Bay visits
New Orleans. Another home dog sants catching three and a half.
Here's a shocker. Derek Carr's heard, He's never heard. Oh no,
actually he's always heard. I don't like Derek Carr, never
really did good human being, mediocre quarterback. Last five meetings

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between these two teams failed to go over thirty six
points total. So what's interesting is the totals forty one
and a half. You know, do you look to the
under in that game because Spencer Rattler makes you start.
I don't have high hopes for Spencer Ratler.

Speaker 4 (21:07):
I like the under forty two. I think that's a sharp,
plain and fast. Right now at DraftKings, you can play
under forty two.

Speaker 5 (21:13):
And a half.

Speaker 4 (21:13):
All Miza dollars twelve, MISA dollar twelve. But I mean
Tampa Bay has to feel they could be conservative, run
the ball more and get the victory. They're going to
look not to turn it over. And do we really
think Spencer Ratler is going to get twenty points for
New Orleans?

Speaker 2 (21:30):
So in a game you mean, like in one game.

Speaker 4 (21:33):
Twenty to seventeen last yep, that's under forty two and
a half. Let's go under.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Well, like I said, Fiz, I don't know if you
have you know this holds any credence with you, But
the last five matchups between the Bucks and Saints, none
of them have gone over thirty six.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
My only concern, Bernie is last week the scoring's been
down in the NFL, and last week we saw an
average of fifty points scored per game. So I think
the new kickoff rules and the offense is finally improving
are kicking in. So I'm trying to avoid playing very
many of the unders.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
All right, Fez, A game that's certain to put you
to sleep. Pittsburgh visits Las Vegas, the Raiders catching three
and as you know, Fez, the autumn wind is a pirate,
but not here in Las Vegas. Where it's ninety six degrees.
The game is played indoors, and by the way, Pittsburgh
was here in twenty two and twenty three covered both games,

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and this time they bring Justin Fields, the world's favorite
quarterback presiding over a bottom five defense. You know what
a Justin Fields offense looks like to me, Fez. You
ever go to a nice restaurant, of course you do
all the time, and you get yourself a nice stake
when it's like fresh ground pepper with that and they
bring that big long thing and they start twisting it
and they tell me when, and they twist it and

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twist and like Harley, any pepper ever comes out, and
you want to keep going, but you don't want the
poor guy to end up with Tommy John surgery. That's
what Justin Fields and the Pittsburgh offense looks like, that
yepper shaker. Your thoughts, Pittsburgh Raiders, Well.

Speaker 4 (23:03):
I was thinking exactly the same thing, Bernie. It's such
an obvious analogy. We all think that, of course, But
I don't think Noblu has a pepper shaker, do I
do say this? I think there'll be thirty thousand Pittsburgh
Steeler fans that will take over a Legiance Stadium here
in Las Vegas, so little hidden home crowdedge for the Steelers.

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That's part of the reason they're betting the Steelers currently
is another game. If you're going to bet the Steelers,
lay the three right now and get miss three at
the South Point, lay at dollar ten, it won't be
there come post I think it's going to go up
to three and a half. If you like the Raiders,
wait till the very last minute to wager.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
In the game.

Speaker 4 (23:39):
By the way, there's people that are listening to say, well, Fiz,
why don't you have an opinion on the game. And
you know what, I could just be like everyone else
in the media, like Killian in the in the movie
Running Man, Richard Dawt, I can lie to you and
say wrong, teams favored, or this line should be six
one is three. It's all lies lies life. These people

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don't make they don't bet, seriously, they don't make a
living betting, Bernie. They're just being entertaining. I'm telling you
the truth, very very very rarely, isn't any NFL line
off by more than one point come the weekend.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
I'll go this way, Faz pick winners. If you pick winners,
you cover seventy two percent of the time. But that's
a conversation for a different day. Carolina another home dog,
catching six at home against Atlanta. Panthers are one and
four against the number this season. They've never been favored
once all season and they're not Sundy your thoughts.

Speaker 4 (24:31):
You know, I do want to address the whole picking
winners things, because obviously every time the underdog wins out right,
which is going to happen, you know what's right, they're
going to automatically cover. So that's like any so any
game that's lined like one or two, if you pick
the winner, of course they're going to cover, you know,
whether you know the money line or the spread. So
it's a little misleading. It doesn't work so well with it.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
To the only point I'm trying to make is seventy
two percent of the time the number doesn't come into play,
you either cover, right. You can't be a fish better,
you can't. I think Pittsburgh will win, but I wont
with my three. You know, I.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
Actually would lean Atlanta in this game because the I
just think the dead cat bounce happened with the red
rifle and Carolina five guys injured on the defense. They
got shredded again last week. So I think that Cousins
and company team total over twenty six and a half
is probably a good way to invest in this game.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Also, all right, three more to go, Cincinnati visits the Giants,
Giants catching three and a half, another home dog. Giants
have now covered three straight games, but the Bengals only
one and two against a number is a favorite this year.
But here's here's the kicker fizz all four losses of
the Bengals this year by a total of fifteen points.
I feel like this is a get right game for Cincinnati.

Speaker 4 (25:50):
You know what's interesting is the Bengals were laying three
and a half against Carolina. Well, the Giants are a
lot better than Carolina, not just a little bit better,
and the Bengals are still three and a half. I
would have looked to the Giants, but Neighbors, the rookie
wide receiver is so good and he's going to be
out and because of that, I think this line will
go up to four. Gun to my head. If I

(26:12):
had to wager, I late three and a half on
the Bengals. I hate playing road favorites.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
Though. All right, a game that I am quite sure
if as will be top of mind for most survivor betters.
Philly lane nine and a half at home against the
lovable Cleveland Browns. They brank their thirtieth ranked offense, uh
Deshaun Watson, putting up on a massive two hundred and
thirty nine yards per game. I think it's a good
teaser play for Philadelphia to get it down below three.

(26:36):
Beyond that, I don't know if I'd be wanting him
to do with this game.

Speaker 4 (26:40):
Yeah, so this points spread has dropped, like at DraftKings
right now, it's mine eight and a half. The time
to tease. I actually think it's possible some pros came
in and just they just bet Cleveland plus nine because
they wanted it to go to eight and a half
so they could load up on a bunch of teasers.
So this would be my best bet. I would tease Philly,
this is a DraftKings lining better right now? You late

(27:00):
eight and a half down to my two and a half.
You cannot tease the Mius three. It has to go
to miles two and a half. I'll explain later. No,
I won't just go read Stanford Wong's book Sharp Sports Betting.
He'll explain it to you at Sharp Sports Betting. I
need a dancing partner. I'm going to partner up with
the Monday Night football game. I'm gonta take the Jets
from plus two up to plus eight as the second

(27:21):
leg of my six point minus one twenty NFL teaser.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
So Jets catching two and a half our final game
on the board here, Fez. Believe it or not. They've
covered three of their last four versus Buffalo. Remember they
beat Buffalo last year with Zach Wilson. An interesting oddity
in this game. Not an oddity but a factoid. New coaches.
New coach beat the new coach. I don't know if
he's the same as the old boss. First game, they
cover fifty eight percent of the time. Bills are allowing

(27:47):
one hundred and forty four yards on the grand per
game the stupid Jets. The problem though, is they passed
sixty eight percent of the time. I look for them
to be more balanced. Monday Night brishall paging, Brisall more Bresall.
I feel like the Jets win this game out right,
says am I wrong.

Speaker 4 (28:03):
I like your Brietall prop I can't I apologize. I
can't recall the number I played, but I did play
him over for his number of rushes. I'm gonna tease
the Jets. Mathematically, it's almost always better to tease the
plus two to two and a half than to play
the plus two two and a half, and I tease
them with the Eagles. However, should you want to bet
against the Jets, I'm going to give you an opportunity.

(28:25):
The following week, Bernie, the Jets are at Pittsburgh. Remember
the Jets were just in London week five, so week
six they're playing for the divisional championship with the brand
new coach. Week seven, the flat spot hits. The Pittsburgh
Steelers minus one are hosting the Jets, so look ahead
week seven, get on the Steelers, but on the Jets
and the teaser this week, but against them next week.

(28:47):
And you gotta bet at now because the Steelers miss won,
that number won't be there come Sunday night.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
It'll be more like.

Speaker 4 (28:54):
Two to two and a half.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
I would predicts great stuff. As always, any final thoughts.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
Write down all the points spreads each and every week
on Monday, all right, and then write them again come
Saturday night Sunday, and never ever, almost never ever play
a number like the Tennessee Titans minus two most two
and a half when you could have played them plus one.
Value is everything.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
That's great stuff as always enjoy your Sonny, my man.

Speaker 4 (29:21):
Thank you, Bernie.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
Are you in favor of the NFL adding an eighteenth
regular season game. We'll tell you what the players say,
but first let's go to our guy a chef with
the latest.

Speaker 6 (29:35):
Yeah, Bernie, we got one game going on still in
at college football is number seventeen. Boise Stay out on
the Islands of Hawaii leading the Rainbow Warriors twenty eight
to seven. As this game all but over. They got
less than two minutes ago out in Honolulu. Everything else
has concluded going final and not too long ago out
in Boulder. This is a crazy one, especially in that

(29:59):
fourth quarter of a I'm eighteen. Kansas State hangs on
for a thirty one to twenty eight win against Colorado.
The bus took the lead with about three minutes ago
after getting an interception, but the Wildcats came right back
for the victory. This is one of the best days
of the season in college football and arguably the game
of the year was over in Eugene.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
Here we go, six.

Speaker 7 (30:21):
Seconds left from the after the five yard credily the
thirty eight yard line of Oregon, Howard steps back to throw,
looks right, pump fake.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
Now we'll run and have Roben hooks down at the
twenty eight yard liven o'clock has run out. The clock
has run.

Speaker 6 (30:39):
Out, Ohio State coming up just short there as Oregon
wins it thirty two to thirty one. So you gotta
wonder exactly who might be the number one team. That's
because Texas took care of business in the Red Rivel rivalry,
the top rank Longhorns demolishing Oklahoma the eighteen three Sooners
thirty four to three. So it is certainly be an

(31:00):
interesting debate when the rankings are released as to who
the number one team in the country will be. Elsewhere
in college football, number four Penn State and USC the
Trojans blowing a twenty to six haftime lead as the
Lions come back and win it in overtime at thirty
three to thirty. Number seven Alabama surviving twenty seven to

(31:23):
twenty five against South Carolina, Number eight Tennessee. They trailed
Florida ten to nothing in the third quarter, but they
come back for an overtime win, twenty three to seventeen.
Number thirteen. LSU gets by number nine Ole Miss twenty
nine to twenty six, Number eighteen or number twenty two.

(31:43):
Pitt held on for a seventeen fifteen victory against Cal
Number twenty three Illinois fifty to forty nine win against Purdue.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
Back to you, Burney, All right, Jeff. Coming up the
NFL players, they say they need something. If you're even
going to have any designs about an eighteenth game, you
know the fans want it. You know Goodell wants it.
Let's tell you what the players want. Coming up, I'm
Bernie Frattle or coming to your line from Las Vegas,
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(32:41):
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much much more. We will touch upon the Robert Sala
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five and how that leads us into week six, and
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(33:26):
all want more football. Nobody I've ever talked to says
they want less football. And the handwriting is on the
wall NFL owners. They want to eventually expand the regular
season from seventeen games to eighteen show be a time
where the owners didn't get what they want, so it
seems like a matter of win, not if we see
an eighteenth game. Now, keep in mind the current collective

(33:50):
bargaining agreement runs through twenty thirty. But I think behind
the scenes, in twos and threes and hush tones, many owners,
many officials, leaders of the NFL, the players Association, they've
already begun preliminary discussions on what an eighteen game season
might look like, what kind of concessions each side would

(34:13):
have to make to make such a change. But having
said all that, from what I'm hearing, the two sides
are nowhere close to an agreement on what that might
look like. Now. Recently, there was a there was an
anonymous player poll simply asking the question, are you in

(34:36):
favor of the NFL adding an eighteenth regular season game?
You might find this interesting? Seventy four percent did not
answer yes. Now, to break that down, about sixty percent
said no, and fourteen percent said they were undecided. Twenty

(34:57):
six percent said yes. The ones who said no, it
was not no hell no, F no F no, F no,
F no. They don't like it. Some even went on
to say, nah, I don't think the money's worth it
at this point, and since it might not even affect
the playoff bracket. One more extra game is not going
to affect the playoff bracket, whatever the hell that means.

(35:21):
These are quotes. More football sounds great to fans and
owners because it is. I mean, look, you're going to
have a Super Bowl next year. They's played like a
February twentieth, so this year, I think it's on February ninth.
It's a long season, long season. But what's happening now

(35:44):
is there's sort of this realization they're coming to terms
of the fact the players barely make it through seventeen games.
So when you add an eighteenth you don't really know
what type of implications that's going to have long term
because you see guys they have high usage rates one year,
then the whole next year they battle injuries. There's an
up and down physically situation. It's probably just too much.

(36:07):
We don't know. There was a time they only played
fourteen games. Remember if there was also a time they
played six preseason games. There's a time they only played
twelve games in the NFL. But then all of a sudden,
they see the money. Both sides see the money, and
now you weigh do you take a chance on losing
star players, the injuries, but look at the money. And
by the way, one even one player, I don't know

(36:29):
how Sincereo was said he was concerned that perhaps if
you expand to schedule eighteen, that might diminish your water
down the magnitude of each game, and this player went
on to say, quote, now, think about this, this is
pretty good insight. What makes football great is that there
are so few games. They play once a week, and

(36:50):
each game matters, like ten baseball games and five basketball games,
so they all matter. Seventeen's kind of nice because nobody's
going to be five hundred or not doing ties anymore.
You're either over five hundred or you're under five hundred.
Although that's not technically true. We're not doing ties in
the there can be ties, but the bottom line is

(37:11):
one of the players also said, if this ever does happen, well,
then we're going to have to mandate grass fields across
the league. See because the players, and they're not wrong,
they always take issue with the NFL claiming that they
really do care about player safety. It all sounds good,
but they also hear about owners wanting additional games. But

(37:34):
they also understand the driving factor behind the decision. See look,
Roger Goodell had a stated goal when he took over
the league back in twenty oh six. I think it
was from Paul Tagliabu. He wants to grow this league
into a twenty five billion dollar industry, and they're on
their way to doing it. The NFL is all about
making money, printing money. They're gonna add another game. It's
gonna happen, and what that means there'll be more money

(37:54):
coming in. How much get to the players. The player
hit the nail on the head. Let's go right to
the essence. Let's go right to the apex of this issue.
The NFL is all about making money. Not conversely, the
players want to increase their earning potential as well. Because
of that mutual desire. Even players who strongly oppose the
idea of expanding to eighteen games, they acknowledge it's just

(38:17):
a matter of time. They may have to relent if
you want to grow their portion of the economic pie
as well. When players said quote, I get it, it's
the money side. You don't get the money why you
can just keep adding games, but that they can ask
more wear and tear in the body if they're going
to make an eighteenth game, They're going to have to
change something somewhere. I'll be curious to see what that

(38:37):
would be. I don't know. You add a second bye week,
whatever it is. Players currently receive about forty eight point
eight percent of all revenue and the owners take in
the remaining fifty two or fifty one point two. And
I think what would get this done is if this
that change the split. Now, players are also asked to

(38:58):
follow a question is what the NFL would really need
need to do to accommodate that eighteenth game. The most
common answer an additional bye week, also reduced the preseason
on offseason schedule, and of course more money. I remember,
none of this may happen till twenty thirty. Some of
the players playing right now might even be here. But
it's worth talking about because the NFL has built a

(39:19):
machine that can only go forward, and we're all going
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(40:01):
It's that time time for Little Medina Magic every Saturday night,
midnight Pacific time on the Bernie Frattle Show. Fifty two
weeks out of the year. Mark here we go. The
future always has a way of arriving ahead of the schedule.
And of course at October twenty second, we've got a
brand new NBA season.

Speaker 5 (40:22):
Yeah, brand new NBA season. We got the whole of
same induction today lot you get preseason basketball. We can
really go anywhere with us.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
Well, I hate to start with this story, but I
almost have to, because I guarantee you we'll take up
all the air in the room. We are hearing now
from pretty darn good sources that we're going to be
seeing history opening night when the Minnesota timber Buls visit
the Lakers at Crypto dot Com Arena that they're going
to waste no time. Lebron and Brownie will be the

(40:50):
first father son duo to share the court, of course,
in a regular season NBA game. And I don't know
if you missed it last week, it was a real banger.
Bronni in his two appearances. I think he had a
total of about nine minutes, was minus twenty eight and
the plus minus look completely lost in my opinion, You
got the floor.

Speaker 5 (41:08):
Yeah, well, I certainly didn't miss it because I was
there in person when Bronni and Lebron made that debut.
I got the Phoenix Suns in Pump Springs, California. I
want to be surprised that the reports are accurate that
he will play Opening night, but I will caution I
don't think it's going to be a long time. I mean,
we have to keep in mind that when they made

(41:29):
that preseason debut, and it was only preseason, Lebron and
Browny played a combined four minutes together and during that
stretch the Suns went on a run. Yeah, now it's preseason,
doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things. Even
though regular season games aren't the same as playoff games. Coaches,
especially our first year head coach like JJ Reddick, know

(41:52):
how precious those minutes are. So I think if and
when that happens in the regular season A, it's going
to be a really short and be the G League
is going to start early November, and so his ability
to be able to even make any token appearances is
really only going to be for the first aid games.
So no, it's a.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
Good point, and I would just say this, and they
may then be on the court thirty seconds. That may
be twenty nine seconds too long, but at least it
will have made history. Lebron will have gotten his wish,
and I don't know if bronill ever be in the
NBA again. I listen, this isn't funny anymore. I got
nothing against the kid. He's a class kid, although he
does say dumb things. I really wouldn't think of my

(42:32):
dad on the floor. Come on, don't do that, of
course you were. The second thing is I think he
plays hard, he tries. He's not an NBA player, and
everybody can see it, all right, So I think we
need to get through this charade and get on with
our lives and you know you can respond to any
of that or none of that.

Speaker 5 (42:49):
Yeah. Look, I don't feel the same level of outrage
with us because it's preseason and we see a lot
of training camp invites undrafted players that are just trying
to get on people's radar, that are playing in NBA games,
and you know they're not NBA ready, And so I
think again, because of this, the fact that he's in
that he's going to be in the G League, I'm

(43:10):
not I don't feel as strongly now if the Lakers
were downplaying him playing in G League, if Browny was
skolfant the idea of playing G League, I would feel
something different. But uh, this is going to be very
short lived. And if you do want to see Browne,
you're going to have to see him play in the

(43:31):
only the Lakers practice facility where they play with the
South Bay Lakers.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
Look. Just to set the records straight, I have no
beef with the Lakers wanting to accommodate Lebron in this
lifelong wish, none whatsoever do it. I'm trying to hold
two thoughts concurrently, he's not an NBA player and he's
not going to be one. Okay, and then a lot
of these other undrafted players had far more better resumes

(43:56):
in college, and rather than go down there, let's just
see how it plays out. You know, maybe he'll average
a triple triple and make a liar out of me.
Then again, maybe Led Zeppelin and record the Gillians Allen
theme song and syllableion copies by Tuesday. But I digress.
All right, let's move along. One of the subjects that
came up this week mark was the fact that apparently

(44:18):
a lot of NBA gms want the apron rules changed.
We've talked about this at length, but the commissioner I
don't think he's going to go for it. He says
he believes it truly helps parody. Where are you aig
in on this?

Speaker 5 (44:29):
Yeah, I don't think that they're going to change. I mean, secondly,
the NBA Players Union agreed to this. Maybe there are
some buyers remorse out of this, but you know, the
NBA is doing this because they do want to increase parody.
And you know, even though there are certain general managers
that don't like this, these are the general managers that

(44:50):
are on teams that are willing to go over the
luxury tax and are high spending teams, the teams that
are in smaller markets and don't have a big budgets.
They like these second Apron rules because even though it
makes it more and more challenging to build a roster
and keep it, it does, in their mind bridge the

(45:11):
division between the halves and the have nots. But you know,
I think at some point the second Apron will come
home to roost. Really, I think when a team like
Oklahoma City suddenly has to confront the fact that they
have a young roster and everyone's due for an extension
and all of a sudden it's not sustainable to retain

(45:32):
those players. Now, that doesn't happen, I think in about
two years. But I do think at some point it
will be revisited, just not now, only because it has
an affected small market teams. So far, it's been large
market and I think because of that, you know, there's
not as much sympathy for them.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
Talk with Mark Medina, Medina managing every Saturday night here
on The Bernie Frider Show, twelve midnight Pacific time. I'm
glad you mentioned the Hall of Fame. It's not an
NBA Hall of Fame and Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of
Fame one player Dianeering. Dear to my heart, I covered
them in two thousand and four and two thousand and
five Pistons. Chauncey Billups was part of the class. I

(46:09):
believe thirteen members got inducted, Mark, is that true?

Speaker 5 (46:13):
Yeah, third team members you mentioned Chauncey Bills. Jerry West
was inducted a third time, this time as a contributor
for his amazing track record as a general manager. I
think he's the best executive ever in NBA history. And
then yeah, Michael Cooper, he's with the Showtime Lakers. I'm
trying to think who else Herb Simon was a contributor.

(46:34):
Doug Collins. You know, we all know him as the
coach that coach Michael Jordan before Phil Jackson. So yeah,
there's a lot of good headliners. We have Chauncey Billups
well deserving part of that two thousand and four Pistons team.
And you know, I know that he's had some early
rough selettings as a Blazers coach. I think there's a
pathway for him to be successful for the same reason

(46:57):
he was a successful player, very small player, knew how
to get the best out of teammates and was just
competitive as hell.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
I want to bring up a name from the past,
but I know you would know this name well. And
first of all, he was a very good friend of
my good buddy Dave Meyers, Rest his soul. They both
played together at ECLA and for the Milwaukee Bucks. I'm
talking about Marcus Johnson. He's been a finalist three of
the past six years, five time All Star. He was
a legend to ECLA. I know he had injuries, so

(47:28):
his statistics weren't superb, but he helped john win in to
his final championship in nineteen seventy five, and two years
later he was National Player of the Year. What is
keeping Marcus Johnson out of the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 5 (47:41):
Well, I don't mean to be evasive about this, but
it's just the reality. No one really knows anything on
what the criteria is for a player being inducted or not,
because one we don't even know who's part of the committee,
and two they never share the criteria. So I think
what happens is two things. Unless you are, you know,

(48:05):
an annual All Star player that's won multiple championships, you're
always going to be vulnerable toward, you know, being passed
when you're first eligible after five years of your retirement.
That's number one. Number two. The longer you do wait,
there is a danger that the contemporaries that could advocate
you for you are no longer around to vouch for you,

(48:29):
or just aren't even if they are around, just aren't
in the same kind of limelight as the more modern
people attached to either the NBA or college basketball. So
I don't know if either of those two things fully
answer his exclusion, but generally that's usually what it comes
down to.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
Back when we are on the radio and Detroit, we
would talk about whether or not this is in two
thousand and four, if Joe Dumars would be in the
Hall of Fame, and we had this running punchline. And
I don't say this disrespectfully or in the puture in
any way. This is our punchline. K Yaw is in
the Hall of Fame. She was a female coach at
North Carolina State, very accomplished, wasn't inducted until she was sixty. Okay,

(49:11):
k Yaw is in the Hall of Fame. Now, you
bring up a great point. We don't really know what
the criteria is but I always fall on the word fame.
It's the Hall of Fame, and I feel like what
Marcus Johnson did between his time at UCLA and the
Milwaukee Bucks fell into that category. I guess that's just
my final thought of the matter.

Speaker 5 (49:31):
Yeah, And I mean, look, you mentioned Joe Jumark. He
wasn't inducted until two thousand and six, and obviously everyone
knew him as a really good defender Finals MVP in
one of the Pistons championship teams. And that's probably another
third criteria that if you will are on a championship
eighten team that has, you know, multiple Hall of Famers,

(49:53):
multiple Hall Start caliber players, but you're not the number one,
number two guy, sometimes you fall on exclusion.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
Here.

Speaker 5 (50:00):
You look at Michael Cooper for example. I mean, I
think on one hand, there was some reaction on why
did he get in the Hall of Fame. He was
never a Hall he was never an All Star player,
he rarely started. But on the other hand, he would say, well,
he won Defensive Player of the Year, he was on
a defensive first team, you know, I think eight times,
second team five times, but he didn't get in until

(50:22):
this year because he was on the Showtime Lakers, and
people instinctively thought of Kareem abdul Jabbar, Magic Johnson and
James Worthy and Jamal Wilks first before Michael Cooper. So
you know, that's that's probably another factor that certainly explained
to Joe Dumars delaying possibly others.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
What it's worth in Cooper was a key cog in
those Showtime teams, the Cooper loop that Magic would throw.
He was one of the first pretty good three point
shooters too, So yeah, it's a good a lot all right.
Moving along, there are two players I've got my eye
on that will both be with new teams, Paul George
with the Sixers, Clayton Thompson with the MAVs. All of

(51:02):
those two, who do you think has the greater impact
on his team in this upcoming season?

Speaker 5 (51:06):
Well, I think it would be Paul George. I think
by two things. One, Paul George is the number two option,
plays the number three option. I think Paula George is
still seen as an All Star caliber player even though
both players have a lot of questions about their health
and durability. You know, Paula George still plays both ends
of the floor. He produces at a high level. Clay

(51:29):
basically since his Achilles and ACL injury, he hasn't been
the same player. I still think he's played a high level,
but he hasn't played an all Star caliber level. And
I think most notably, he hasn't been the same kind
of defensive player that he once was. But with the Mavericks,
he's playing with Luka Dacic and Kyrie Irving, so one
that puts some less pressure off of them too. He's

(51:52):
probably going to get even more open shots than arguably
what he would have even gotten playing with Steph Curry.
But I think, you know, I talked with some other
you know, basketball minds, executives and coaches before training camp,
and a lot of them weren't really high on Dallas,
even though they got to the finals last season. The
main thing that they had their questions on is who's

(52:15):
going to defend. I mean, they think that PJ. Washington
and Derek Wiway the second are great defenders, great rim protectors,
and PJ. Washington can be a wing player, But as
far as that back court goes, Luca Doctors and Kyrie
Irving aren't great defenders, and usually Clay fulfilled that role.
There's skepticism on whether he can do that. I know

(52:37):
Claia said that, you know, one of the many sources
of motivation this season is to prove that he can
be that player. But you know, I think that he'll
be successful. But I think when you're comparing to Paul George,
Paul George is going to have a much bigger impact
because he's expected to do a lot more. He's going
to have a bigger role, and there's I guess relatively
fewer question marks about his availability and effectiveness.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
Last one for me, Mark, there's no doubt that the
NBA has expanded its global footprint. Now you've got games
in Abu Dabi, You're gonna have regular season games in
Mexico City, and he's had him in Paris. It's been
five years now since Darryl Morey had his message on
social media and the NBA hasn't really been back to
China since. I understand Adam Silver's working on getting the

(53:26):
NBA back into China. Can you speak to.

Speaker 5 (53:27):
That, Yeah, well, I mean Adam Silver, you know, basically
was on record saying that he said that he believes
the NBA will have preseason games in China, and now
he didn't say an exact year, but you know, when
you look at the fact that prior to twenty nineteen
they had preseason games there. But I think basically since

(53:50):
two thousand and four, they're very well aware that the
NBA has an international market and it's very popular in Asia,
very popular in China, and it's a matter of if
not when and now, you know, when it comes to
China controversy and obviously the political climate and you know,
the China's human rights records, it does fly in the

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face of the NBA's you know, normal stance of you know,
wanting to be an advocate for domestic social justice issues
and promoting you know, player initiatives to speak out on that.
But I will say, at the same time, any expectation
that the NBA is the face of, you know, confronting

(54:33):
China for their track records a little bit hypocritical because
you look at really any multinational company in the US
they do business with China. A lot of the products
we consume come from China. But you know, there is
a delicate dance and some double standards of the NBA
faces because of how they feel about other issues.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
All right, Mark good stuff. We're itching closer to a
new season. I'm looking very much forward to it at and
looking forward to your continued coverage on the Bernie Fraddle Show.

Speaker 5 (55:04):
Always a good time to shot NBA with you, my friend.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
All right, thanks so much, Mark, appreciate you man. It's
Mark Medina, our NBA Fox Sports Radio guru. Clearly has
his finger on the pulse. Is in the subject matter
we don't tackle that he can't go in depth with
and we're nine days away from a new season. I'm
looking forward to it. I think it's going to be
a pretty darn good NBA season, including me in season tournament,
and we'll see what shakes out. The Bernie Fraddle Show continues.

(55:29):
I'm Bernie Fraddle. We're coming to your life from the
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it lox, you're listening to the Bernie Fraddles Show on
Fox Sports Radio. All right, back on the Bernie Frattle Show,
Fox Sports Radio. Come to live from the tarret dot
Com studios here in Las Vegas. In case you missed it,
you're hiding under a rock or on Planet Mars. Robert

(55:49):
Sala was relieved of his duties head coach of the
New York Jets Tuesday. Remember four years ago at that
introductory press conference, he said, get used to quote all gas,
no break, all gas. Well, he definitely passed a lot
of gas the last four years. And uh, it just
ended badly. And look, I got nothing against Robert Sala.
I think he's a good man. I think he was

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in over his head as an NFL head coach, good
defensive coordinator. He'll get other opportunities there. Uh. You know,
remember in the Sopranos when Uncle Junior used to bust
Tony Soprano's balls, he would say, you know, you never
had the makings of a varsity player, never had, never
had the makings and really bothered Tony Soprano. Sala never

(56:33):
really had the makings of an NFL head coach. You know,
there's an old saying you can buy dance lessons, but
you can't buy rhythm. He just didn't have the rhythm.
He saw it in his relationship with Aaron Rodgers was strained.
It was quite obvious. You know, the bro hug that
wapping up, that failed, the clunky press conferences talking about

(56:55):
mandatory mini camps and trips to Egypt, and then the
Caden thing last week. And look, then of course Aaron
Rodgers was asked if he had anything to do with it,
and he gave us the Babe in the Woods routine.
So it comes down to leadership. Look, leadership is influence
based on trust the urn. That's my definition of leadership.

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It always has been. I don't think Sala had the
trust of just about anybody. And we're talking about an
organization that's been top ten in scoring once in the
last twenty years. It's where they do they hire another
defensive coach. I'm talking about Sala zero offensive experience in
eighteen years of coaching. They made it clear they just

(57:40):
wanted him to be a CEO type responsible for the
entire team, kind of like Nick Sirianni. First thing out
of the gate, he hires Micha Lafleur and Jeff Olbrich
from Floor ran the offense. Ulbrich ran the defense. Didn't
take long. They're fairly well realized Robert Sala really was
not to the task. Now Ubric's defense thrive. And by

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the way, Lafleur, who is now the Rams offensive coordinator,
was gone by twenty twenty three after two years of
Zach and Wilson tried that again. Zach Wilson induced failure. Now,
it was critical that Sala nail his next tire, because,
like you know, say, Dan Campbell, he nailed it with
Ben Johnson, Dan Quinn nailed it with Cliff Kingsbury. What

(58:22):
ad salad do? Are you kidding me? He replaced Lafleur
with Nathaniel Hackett, fresh after what Sean Payton had called
Hackett as one of the worst head coaching tenures in
NFL history. Somehow, Hackett helped New York Land Aaron Rodgers, sure,
but did nothing else to make an offense that finished

(58:45):
each of Sala's three seasons bottom ten and scoring their
twenty fifth This year, offense remains the problem. They ranked
twenty seventh in total yards per game, lasted rushing, the
offensive line's been awful, and passed protection. Other than that,
Missus Lincoln hally Hell was the play. Despite all of that,
if the Jets, who are two and three, beat the
Bills at home on Monday night, they will be leading

(59:09):
the AFC East. Yes, Sala had to be the scapegoat.
He was a one ill responsible. Frankly, he didn't hold
Nathaniel Hackett to the standards. He preached on day one
about all gas, no breaks and by the way, it's
not leaking out. And I think these are things you
probably already know. They describe Nathaniel Hackett as a guy

(59:31):
who really lacks detail, lacks attention to detail, and he's
not real good at making in game adjustments. Finally, I
think it's pretty obvious Salah was losing the locker room.
And even Quincy Williams said, I'm gonna be honest, people
get tired of hearing the same old ish there was
no accountability, goodbye no By the way, why well Nathaniel

(59:54):
Hackett remains because you got to appease Aaron Rodgers. Right,
Monday Night's game is huge for the Jets, and man,
I can't wait to see it all Right, coming up,
we had a huge event here Wednesday night. A building
that had been here sixty seven years was home to
Sinatra on the rat pack. Muhammad Ali trained there. I'm
talking about the Tropicana. It's no longer bringing A gentleman

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who was there witnessed it in person twenty two amazing seconds.
But first we go to our guy, the chef, Kevin Wyrett,
with the.

Speaker 6 (01:00:21):
Least Yeah, Bernie College football probably one of the biggest
weekends of the year, and we had the game of
the year in Eugene and it certainly lived up to
the hyde.

Speaker 7 (01:00:32):
Here we go, six seconds left from the after the
five yard penalty the thirty eight yard line of Oregon,
Howard steps back to pro looks right, pump fake, now
you'll run and half Robin hooks down at the twenty eight.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
Yard lubit o'clock has run out. The clock has run out.

Speaker 6 (01:00:51):
That was Jerry Allen on the Oregon Sports Network from
lear Field as the Ducks holding off Number two Ohio
State to win it thirty two to thirty one, and
Number one Texas steam rolls Number eighteen.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
Oklahoma thirty four to three.

Speaker 6 (01:01:05):
So it'll certainly be a discussion on who the top
team in the country is going to be when the
rankings are released. Number four Penn State erasing a two
touchdown halftime deficit to come back and beat USC in
overtime at thirty three to thirty. Number seven Alabama survives

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against South Carolina twenty seven to twenty five. Number eight Tennessee.
They trailed Florida ten to nothing late in the third quarter,
but they do come from behind for the overtime win
twenty three to seventeen.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
Number thirteen.

Speaker 6 (01:01:39):
LSU took its first lead on its only play of overtime,
but they do get the win over number nine Ole
Miss twenty nine to twenty six. Last game of the
night out on the Islands, Number seventeen, Boise State pulls
away from Hawaii to win at twenty eight to seven.
Number eighteen Kansas State and Coloradoway wild fourth quarter that

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sees so wild Cats win at thirty one to twenty eight.
Number twenty two pit held on for a seventeen to
fifteen a win against Cal Number twenty three. Illinois got
a sack on a two point try at the end
of overtime to hold off Purdue fifty to forty nine.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
Back to you, Bernie, all right, thanks Kevin, So welcome
in a gentleman. You've heard them on our show many times.
Broke the story a year and a half ago, the
A's coming to Vegas Tuesday night again and Wednesday morning.
He witnessed twenty two seconds, So Tropicana is no longer Alan.
You were there, we weren't tell us what you saw.

Speaker 8 (01:02:36):
Hey, Bernie. It was pretty spectacular, you know, you know,
whether the A's eventually build the stadium, well, you know,
we'll see. But in terms of the farewell to the
Tropic Canada to pave the way for the new A
Stadium on that side on the strip, it was a
pretty pretty impressive spectacular farewell, definitely Las Vegas style for sure,

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fireworks and they did a hell of a job with
the drones up in the sky, coordinated with the really
impressive fireworks show. And like you mentioned, it took a
mere twenty two seconds to level the two gigantic towers
on the site. And right now it's just basically clean

(01:03:23):
up and getting rid of the debris and rubble.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
So you talk about the drones, you talk about the lights.
I guess there was a full fireworks show as well,
kind of a big production. How close could you get
to the event? Where were you and the rest of
the media positioned.

Speaker 8 (01:03:39):
I'd say we were probably several football fields away from
the from the demolition. I actually got some pretty good
video myself along with our photographers. So it was definitely
a big media event, definitely a historic spectacle in Las
Vegas as animals for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
So you talked about the cleanup, how long do they
expect that cleanup to consummate. When will the stadium be
or when will that lot be completely leveled? For whatever
happens next, I would expect.

Speaker 8 (01:04:14):
For the rest of the year really into early twenty
twenty five, the complete thirty five acre site will be
pretty much cleaned up. In a blank slate for early
twenty twenty five. And you know, the asay they're looking
at a groundbreaking somewhere in the second quarter of next year,

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that April May June window there.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
I'll believe that when John Fisher comes up with a
bunny and that's not I think we will be tackling tonight.
By the way, as you know, Alan the Trap was
sold to Ballys in twenty twenty one. It's understanding they're
also going to build on that site a new Bally's
hotel and resort. What can you tell us about that, well.

Speaker 8 (01:05:00):
I mean that's what they say. I mean, we're still
waiting for the site plan. There's still you know, a
lot of unanswered questions, but you know there is a
site plan being fashioned right now that will include a
hotel tower. You know, keep in mind, Valleys is you know, dealing.

(01:05:22):
They're quite a debt saddled company. So there's still people
have doubts about the a Stadium, and quite frankly, Bernie,
people still have doubts about the Bailey's Hotel. I mean,
theoretically they're supposed to be coordinated and kind of you know,
be working together in the site plan, but you know,
we're still waiting to even see the side plans. But
there is a hotel in the works, That's what we're

(01:05:43):
talking That.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
Is such prime real estate. The corner of Troup and
Las Vegas Boulevard, essentially where the strip truly begins, right
and my due to my way of thinking, you know,
who are the factions behind what's going to really happen there?

Speaker 8 (01:06:02):
Well, it's an interesting three way partnership. You have, like
you mentioned, valleys, and then you have the A's and
then you have gaming and leisure Properties Inc. They actually
own the thirty five acres. And keep in mind, Bernie,
as you know, the thirty five acres will not be
used for the stadium as a totality. The A's are

(01:06:24):
getting a nine acre footprint to build their domed one
point five billion dollars stadium. So you know, the charge
for the A's is to somehow cram in a dome
stadium on a nine acre footprint. At like you said,
it's an iconic site. It's the southeast corner of Las

(01:06:45):
Vegas Boulevard and Tropic Kanda Ab And you know, well,
we're still waiting to see where exactly the nine acre
footprint will sit on the thirty five acre location.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
All right, Elan, We're going to keep watching this news
or ups. You feel free to reach out to me
when we have real news. We'll definitely want to have
you back on again. Terrific.

Speaker 8 (01:07:06):
Hey, always great to talk to you, Bernie, Thanks man, Thank.

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
You, Allen. That's Alan Snell, Las Vegas LV sports Biz,
a longtime journalist. Went out there at two thirty the
morning on Wednesday. It was a real trooper and you know,
got video. You could probably see it on his Twitter
website at twitter side twitter handle at LV sports Biz.
You know, you hear some skepticism in my voice. I'm

(01:07:30):
not saying the raider the oaklan A's aren't coming. I
would never say that, but what I have better finger
they are coming, absolutely not. I we saw how seamless
it was. When you know, Bill Foley and his group
said we're billing An arena. They built the arena. Next thing,
you know, the Las Vegas, you know the Golden Knights,

(01:07:52):
The Vegas Golden Knights were born. That's all the way
back down to twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, when the Oaklan
A's came checked out, when the Oakland Raiders came there,
Welcome to Oakland Arms. A lot of public money was
put forth to build a Legion Stadium, to the chagrin
of a lot of people. Believe it or not, there
were a lot of opposing factions. The Oakland A's and
iconic franchise, no doubt about it. But hey, they kind

(01:08:14):
of showed up, had unannounced and uninvited and say we're here,
and you'd be surprised. There's not a lot of enthusiasm
for the A's coming. Now. That's not to say when
they get here, if they ever get here, they'll sell
out every night. You just never know. This is a
hell of a sports town. But there's just some there
are just some things to me that aren't adding up.

(01:08:36):
And rather than speculate, ruminate, we don't need to do
that right now. Let's just wait and see what happens. Okay,
wait and see what happens. So all right, let's start
back into the NFL coming up. I mentioned and when
I tease the show on Twitter, it was a very

(01:08:57):
weird week of football. There were five games that took
place last week. And I know the NFL is a
week to week league. There are a series of independent trials.
Things don't necessarily carry over. But last week was just
like a twilight Zone series of games, and you wonder
if some of those issues might carry over. We'll talk
about those coming up. I'm Bernie Fraddle. We are coming

(01:09:19):
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(01:10:03):
All Right, it was a very weird week in the
NFL Week five, and you can't ignore it because it really,
you know, you leave the conversation asking yourself, who's really
good this year? Because some teams look good, maybe they're
not that good. Some teams are not so sure, maybe

(01:10:23):
they actually are good. You're not gonna get any beef
with me about the Chiefs at the end of the year.
They don't ask Coyle just how many know they do
is win and they're like the exact opposite of Lincoln
Riley teams. When they need to make a play, they
make it. Somebody makes and somebody steps up. You don't
go five and zero by accident in the National Football League.

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And the truth of the matter is, you know, the
former commissioner Burt Bell had a vision for the NFL
that once said, quote on any given Sunday, any team
can be any other team. That happens all the time.
What happened last week? Okay, the Cowboys, Well, the three
and two. Now the Steelers three and two. They beat

(01:11:09):
the Steelers. The Cowboys beat the Steelers last week twenty
to seventeen. Amongst weirdness, the game started way late, I'd
way late, stretched over two calendar days, and continued to
be completely mind boggling in its confusion. Dak Prescott, this
is what he does, man. I don't care if he

(01:11:30):
give him sixty million dollars or a Bologney sandwich. He
throws horrendous interceptions and then the game winning touchdown. Remember
he's mister October, he's not mister January. How about the
Steelers defense, Well, pretty good, I guess until it really counted. Meanwhile,
justin Fields, you know how I feel about Justin Fields

(01:11:51):
presiding over a bottom five offense. He's like thirteen and
forty two as a starter in his career. He is
a solid citizen. He's a consummate professional. He is well liked,
and he should be because you know, when you grow up,
when I grow up, I want to be justin Fields.
He conducts himself like a true professional. It's just unfortunate
he's not a major league quarterback. Quarterback is a position

(01:12:13):
you play with your eyes. He received the ball. You
make metal snapshots and you execute. He can't operate from
the pocket or the crap. They don't let him do much.
They let them throw the ball over the middle of
the field. We keep hearing how great he is. Would
you please stop? Will please stop? Like we've got eyes. Okay,
As I was telling Steves, like about an hour and
a half ago, you ever go to a restaurant, nice
fine restaurant, and they said, would you like fresh ground

(01:12:35):
pepper with that? And they put out they pull out
that big long thing, looks like a missile, and the
guy starts turning it and turning it, and you wait
for pepper to come out. It's really slow, and you
know you want more pepper, but you don't want the
poor guy to end up with Tommy John surgery. So
you do your best and you're waiting and waiting and
waiting and waiting and waiting, and Okay, that's Pittsburgh's offense

(01:12:57):
with justin fields, and it's only going to get worse.
They're gonna have to go to Russell Wilson. There's no
vertical passing game. He is a college version of a
dual threat quarterback because his default mechanism is to run period.
Now here's what's interesting. Both teams are three and two.

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You would consider that a competent record in the National
Football League. You're on your way to a ten win season.
But I'm not so sure on either team. If you
watched the Cowboys Steelers, can you really tell me a
few of those teams are aren'ty good? Next up, how
about the Ravens and Bengals. The Ravens are currently three

(01:13:38):
and two, the Bengals one and four. All four Bengals
losses by cumulative total of less than fifteen points. Was
it an incredible game for the fans forty one thirty eight?
I'd say so now when you watched it. After watching it,
can you see it yourself? Wow? Both these teams are
really good? No, you can't. Why come on? Seventy nine points?

(01:14:04):
Both defenses struggled tremendously, even though you already knew that
about Cincinnati. I love Joe Anna Rumo. I just I'd
said the wrong first name of Nick great defensive coordinator
got into the Super Bowl five years ago. Lou An Arumo.
Baltimore once had a feared defense unlike any other. But

(01:14:28):
you're not going to tell me that Baltimore's defense is
good when they're allowing twenty five points per game this year,
and by the way, they looked at times helpless against
Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase facts. So what's the final
what's the final summation, Judge Wapner. Cincinnati is not good,
They're not bad, but they're incredibly frustrating. Baltimore they're kind

(01:14:52):
of good, But I've got some serious reservations about the Ravens.
I do, and we'll see how they fare their six
a half point favorite Sunday against the Washington Commandos Cardinals
at two and three forty nine ers also two and
three last week. Now the Niners have since one Thursday Night,
I get it, but I'm talking about week five here,
the weird week. Cardinals won twenty four to twenty three.

(01:15:16):
Terrible loss for the preseason Super Bowl favorites forty nine ers.
That's like a stolen victory. It's like washing your pants
finding a fifty in your pants. For Arizona, the Niners,
clearly they miss Christian McCaffrey, but look, they bounce back
pretty good Thursday night in Seattle, but the problems still
are not solved. Arizona is definitely very mediocre. San Francisco

(01:15:40):
get they need to lift their wounds and get truly healthy.
But what they did Thursday night, I'll give it up
to them. The Niners are going to be there at
the end, but they're not a great team. They're not
the Giants two and three and the Seahawks three and two.
Now the Seahawks now three and three. They stuck it
up Thursday night. Gino Smith once said, they wrote me
off on I ain't right back start writing, Geno, you've

(01:16:02):
turned into the old Gino Smith. We know in love,
God love you. You've had a good ten year career
in the NFL. You should have enough money for your grandkids' grandkids.
But it ain't happen in Gino anymore. The bottom line
is you watch both those teams to scratch your head,
all right. Seattle was coming off a frustrating loss in

(01:16:24):
Detroit where they really competed and they looked like a contender.
That gave them their second loss. Then they stink it
up Thursday night. But let's go back to when the
Giants beat the Seahawks at home. The Seahawks were almost
a touchdown favorite, and look, it's the variants of play
for both of these teams. The Seahawks look really good

(01:16:45):
in Detroit. They were terrible against the Giants. They looked
terrible against the Niners, and they layd last week against
Daniel Jones and then that didn't exactly get him going.
And by the way, the Giants didn't even have elite
neighbors last week. I'm not going to have the Sunday.
The long and the short of it is Seahawks. Look
the stick a fork in them there. They'll probably be

(01:17:07):
mid As shudor Sanders. He should know something about mid
I don't believe in the Giants yet, but I gotta
tell you their offensive line and defensive line might be
a little better than you think. Maybe Brian Dables coaching
them up. We'll see. Long way to go, long way
to go. There was once a coach, Bobby Ross, who
started out zero to four in nineteen ninety two with

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the San Diego Chargers. Still made it to the playoffs.
So we get a long way to go. Remember what
Burt Bell said on any given Sunday, the old Commissioner. Finally,
the Texans beat the Bills last week, twenty three to twenty.
Those Texans are a plucky group. They're now four to one,
the Bills are three and two. I would say that
was a somewhat expected outcome, But then again, how do

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you really know Houston has been I would say getting
it done against not great teams all year. They had
to blow out lost to Minnesota lumped into that game.
Buffalo is a team that looks like a Juggernaut one
week and then look like they look like they're from
hunger the following week. They are very much a week
two week team. All right, they don't miss Stefan Diggs.

(01:18:13):
I would say Buffalo is good. But let me tell
you something. If Buffalo loses to the Jets Monday night,
the weirdness continues, all right. There was all kinds of
weird action last week, and again a lot of times,
even though the NFL is a week to week league,
typically what happened one week isn't necessarily what's going to

(01:18:34):
happen the following week. But what's trending. We continue on
what is trending as we head into the news and
the storylines across the group think echo chamber as it
pertains to the NFL as we head into week six,
Not necessarily the specific matchups, which we'll get to. We
got to with Fez, But what is trending and the

(01:18:56):
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The only reason I bring those up is because what
happened last week makes me wonder does a carryover to
this week. Last week, I pick on Dak Prescott a
lot because he's never done anything in the playoffs, and
trust me, he never will. But he delivered big last week.
He was on his way to having his worst game
of the year, and he threw two bad picks. He
lost to fumble. You know, just another day at the
office for Dak Prescott and his new sixty million dollar contract.

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But when it mattered most, he came up with his
biggest throws and even a key fumble recovery inside the
Cowboys five yard line. Wasn't pretty, but it was ugly,
but Prescott got the job done. And then he ended
up twenty nine to forty two for three fifty two,
two picks, two touchdowns, and the defense on the other

(01:20:23):
side of the ball, which has been much maligned this year,
did just enough to win the game. It wasn't a
very smooth game. They're already without Michael Parsons and DeMarcus Lawrence.
They lost Sam Williams in training camp. And look the
long and the short of it is the you know,
you get on the field against justin fields. All he
can do is run. Okay, when the play breaks down,
that's when he's at his best. He gets jump even

(01:20:45):
in a clean pocket. That's just who he is, all right.
But because Pittsburgh's so predictable and they have a bottom
five offense, they held Najiras to sixty nine yards rushing
and their top receiver, George Pickens, twenty six yards and
three catches. All right, that got the job done. Can
it carry over against Detroit? We'll find out. Ironically, the

(01:21:06):
Steelers and their defense, the Steelers are synonymous with defense,
and they always have been. You know, when you talk
about the Steel Curtain, you know you're talking You're not
talking about the you know, the Hobook and Zephyrs, You're
talking about the Steelers. They gave up four hund and
forty five yards last week to the Cowboys, and they
allowed the Cowboys to convert nine to thirteen third downs. Now,

(01:21:30):
they did come up with some turnovers which were timely,
and for a time it looked like maybe that would
save them. But then the Cowboys drove into the red
zone four straight times, only had three points to show
for it. The score was tied at three, and this
game was a snoozer. But one of the reasons Dallas
was able to pull it out is because I've been

(01:21:54):
saying that just wait for it. Chicago could not wait
to get rid of Justin Fields. You don't like to
talk about him that way, because everybody likes him. I
like him. He's a consummate professional. He's less and less
consistent every week. They don't let him do anything. There's
no vertical game. They don't let him throw over the
middle of the field. He drops back, how what the hell?

(01:22:14):
Will just take off and runs? That's Justin Fields spot
to lie thirteen and forty two as a starter or
thirteen whatever, What does it matter, Just a matter of
time before Russell Wilson finds his way on the field.
On everybody make fun of him. He threw twenty six
touchdown passes against s eight interceptions last year. He did
not get along with Sean Payton anymore than Aaron Rodgers

(01:22:34):
got along with Robert Salah. And look, the man who's
been to two Super Bowls and one to one could
have won two. Fields never will never reach that plateau.
So I think it's a matter of time. And trust me,
we'll see what Fields does against a completely depleted Raiders
defense here in about twelve hours. But Fields was even
I would not say consistency is Justin Field's fourte eight

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And now he's even less consistent. He was fifteen twenty seven,
only threw for one hundred and thirty two one yards.
He was also sacked three times, and then all of
a sudden, it looked like you might rise to the occasion.
Let a twelve play sixty three yard scoring drive. Then
he threw the six yard shovel pass to the Steelers
tight end Pat Fryarmouth. All of a sudden, the Steelers

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got a four point lead with just a couple of
minutes remaining. However, the defense allows a touchdown all the
offensive mistakes that the Steelers had made prior that when
it became magnified. Let's not forget the Steelers only garnered
two hundred and thirty three yards of offense last week.
That is going to cut it in the NFL. What
if I always said about a quarterback, you judge him

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on third down, you judge him in the red zone,
you judge them in the fourth quarter. Fuels was three
to twelve on third down. Those are facts, period. Now
that's being talked about around the water cooler. What else
is being talked about the water cooler. I think Cincinnati
could go on a run. We'll see. Now you've got

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the Giants Sunday, then you got the Browns, Eagles, and Raiders.
But the problem is their defense is allowing thirty two
points a game also over the last four weeks, including
forty one on Sunday's lost to Baltimore. I don't know
why certain of these panel talk shows invest so much
time beating up Joe Burrow. I don't think it's his fault.

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You want to beat up a guy, how about the
Shan Watson. I don't mean literally, you know what I mean.
The Brown's stubbornly sticking with the Shawn Watson. And as
I think Mike Jones wrote in The Athletic a couple
of weeks ago, Cleveland's pretty much screwed. They can say
watching is a sheld himself. Dude, he's a shot fighter.

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He can't play anymore. He doesn't want to play anymore.
Never even wanted to play in Cleveland. But when you
come up with that kind of bag, he can't wait
to get to Cleveland now, I can't wait to get
out of there. I'm telling you the guy, this has
just been horrific. And the Browns you talk about justin
fields three to twelve on third down, Deshaun Watson was
one of thirteen on third down last week. And it

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doesn't get any easier. Eagles are on deck, they're nine
and a half point underdogs, down by eight and a half.
Then the Browns got the Bengals, Ravens, Charger, Saints, and Steelers.
Can you say maybe one in ten it's possible. Well, actually,
they're going to get a first round pick for the
first time since twenty twenty one. Can you believe it? Well? Hell,

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I mean they had to give up a bag and
all kinds of draft choices to get the venerable, the venerable,
the Shaun Watson. How's that working out? You know? It
was really interesting last Sunday and we talked about more
footballs better than lass football. It is. Come on, my god,
last NFL Sunday last week, the first game kicked off

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at six thirty am Pacific time, nine to thirty am
Eastern time. So let's just do this my way because
I live here in the Pacific time zone. So yeah,
I'm a knucklehead. I love the London games. I was
just in London in May. I got to go all
around Tottenham Stadium, on the field, in locker rooms. It's
awesome and that's a bucket list thing. I will go

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to a game in London one of these days. But so,
the NFL kicked off at six thirty am each Pacific
time last Sunday. It didn't finally end until ten pm
Pacific time one am Eastern time. That was when the
aforementioned Dak Prescott beat the Steelers twenty to seventeen in
the final seconds. So we are talking fifteen and a

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half straight hours, literally straight of NFL football one day.
I'm okay with it, but that's the longest day in
NFL history. If you're scoring at home, and I hope
you are now. Look, I don't know what's going on
in Buffalo. They're three and two now. I don't know
what the mood is behind the four walls. They lose

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to a very plucky Texans team, which sets up a
very intriguing matchup Monday Night against Aaron Rodgers and their
new coach. And you've heard of a thousand times. If
the Jets win Monday Night, they're three and three and
they'll have the tie break over Buffalo, and since neither
Miami or New England are going anywhere, the Jets would

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be in first place. Technically they wouldn't play Buffalo again
till late December. So you know, I have a saying,
you're never gonna like the way you lose, whether you
get blown out, whether it's a close game, whether it's overtime.
You're never gonna like the way you lose. You're not
gonna like it. And there's all such thing as a
good loss. Dumbest statement in sports. It's like saying there's
a good kidney stone. But it's not so much that

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the Buffalo Bills lost last Sunday twenty three to twenty.
Do those plucky Houston Texans a team that's very good.
You know, they can beat you in a fist fight
in a phone booth, or they'll make big plays. They
got athletes on both sides of the ball, extremely well coached.
Damiko Ryans has just done a fabulous job. Fabulous job,

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all right, and maybe you know, maybe maybe the Texans
really are a Super Bowl contender. You can put them
in that, you can put them in that category. And
even though I just said, you're never gonna like how
you lost, the problem is how Buffalo lost. The score
was tied, there were thirty two seconds on the clock,

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and I know, really easy to coach from our perch
here in my office in Las Vegas, but the Bills
could have run the ball and played for overtime. Instead,
starting from their own three yard line, they throw the
ball three straight times. After all three passes failed, Houston
got the ball and they had all three timeouts. Now

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one of the reasons you might not have made such
a good idea to throw the balls because Josh Allen
had struggled. And uh, you know, now they're wondering, you know,
do you consider DeVante Adams. I don't know where DeVante
Adams ends up. And he's nobody's solution, nobody's solution. He's
very polished with the media, but he sulks too much.

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He's kind of a me first guy. And I don't know,
I remember all those Super Bowls he won in Green Bay. Yeah,
neither do I. And he came here he wanted to
be with Derek Carr. He got his way up, but
then Derek Carr left. That's no fault to DeVante Adams.
I don't think. I don't think he's been an asset
to the Raiders. I know he scored a bunch of touchdowns,
but come on, really, And by the way, the Raiders
are not getting a number two pick, and no one
wants to pay part of his thirteen million dollar salary.

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So this deal is in limbo. Think whatever you want.
It's in limbo. So Buffalo's got a real chore. They've
got a real chore coming up Monday night against the Jets.
I think it's got the makings of a terrific game.
I remember Bert Bell, the original commissioner, said, on any
given Sunday, it sentiments as true as ever. It also

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counts for Thursday, and it's probably gonna count for Monday
as well. I'm not done. There is more conversations taking
place around the water cooler. We're gonna get you them.
I'm Bernie Frader. We're coming to your line from Las Vegas,
Fox Sports Radio, tirack dot com studios. Keep it locked.
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in Las Vegas, forty minutes away from the dance sensation
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you followed by what my name?

Speaker 8 (01:30:32):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:30:33):
In a world of statistics, damn layers, statisticians and numbers
that just never seemed to be enough. One of the
new fangled metrics that people seem to get a kickout of,
or at least some people get a kick out of
reporting is how fast a player runs in miles miles

(01:30:53):
per hour. Enter Brian Thomas Junior. He's a rookie receiver
for the Jacksonville Jazz Bars in about five hours and
ten minutes. You can see him teed up against the
Bears in London here. He scored a touchdown last week,
an eighty five yard touchdown, and Jacksonville finally got their
their first w over the Colds thirty seven to thirty four,

(01:31:16):
even though give it up to our dude Joe Flacco.
Those for three sixty and three touchdowns. Yeah, yeah, you know,
start at Antirichison. Yeah, okay, we don't care if you
win games A What the hell? This dude hit twenty
two point one five miles per hour on the touchdown.
That's the fastest ball carrier time recorded this season and

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the second fastest in the last five years. So that
in fifty cents will get you a cup of coffee
at Burger Ship. But we are in a world of
stats and statistics, and damn layers and statisticians. And speaking
of running backs, remember the hullabaloo and running backs don't
matter and they're being you know, being devalued. You need

(01:31:59):
to ignore that Guys like Sakuon Barkley have still made
about sixty or seventy million in the career, and Ezekiel
Elliott's made about eighty million. It's still pretty good living. Okay. Yeah,
no one's taking up a collection plate, to which my
response was, no, that's not true. They're not under they're
not over undervalue. They're very important. But when you find
out that if you're the Kansas City Chiefs and you

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lose your first round draft pick two years ago and
you put in a seventh round draft pick out of
Rutgers who runs like hell and looks good doing it,
it runs for one hundred and twenty five yards in
a Super Bowl, you find out that, yes, running backs
are very important. You can't be a one dimensional offense.
But you also find out they're more interchangeable than you thought.

(01:32:41):
When Todd Gurley left the Rams, how bad did they
miss him? Cam Aker stepped into a fine job. They
won a Super Bowl. So I want to hear this
about this group think echo chamber, that running backs are
being disrespected. Look, football's basketball on turf. Now, all right,
it's been trending that way for better twenty years if
you'd pay attention. Linebackers run like DB's did twenty years ago.

(01:33:04):
Deep defensive ends run like linebackers used to. You put
your athletes in space to make a play, and that's
how it works. Yeah, you've got to run the ball,
of course you do. You can't just to be one dimensional.
Defensive coordinators are far too smart for that. They're far
too clever. Speaking of running backs, last week, the New
York Giants, you know they no longer have Saquon Barkley.

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They don't even have Devin Singletary. But say hello to
Tyrone Tracy Junior. Yeah, give him the ball. You don't
think these guys are interchangeable. He carried it eighteen times.
I'm Tyrone Tracy Junior. One hundred and twenty nine yards
last week for the New York Giants had a great

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hand in helping the Giants run all over Seattle. Tyrone
Tracy Junior eighteen carries one hundred and twenty nine yards
and it happened to be the best ruptioning performance of
the season from the New York Giants. But oh, by
the way that I mentioned the Giants were also missing
Malik Neighbors. Yeah, a team that not a lot of
folks are talking about, but I think you really got

(01:34:11):
to start paying attention to them and as the young'in say,
put some respect down their name. Look, when Jordan Love
went down Week one and the Packers lost, you started
to wonder might those preseason predictions of grandeur fall by
the wayside, especially since you got the lines in that
division and the Vikings. What they're doing is not a fluke.

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They're well coached on both sides of the ball and
they execute. But since losing Week one, the Packers have
been three and one since and every day someone wakes
up in America and a new star is born. Last
week it was Jayden Reid. Look at the highlight reel
during green Bay and their victory over the Rams, who
don't have a lot, but they fight. They fight, and

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they're tough out. They're usually an out, but they're tough out.
Green Bay beat him twenty four to nineteen last week,
and Jayden Reid made a catch for the Ages. Ages.
And by the way, they have another guy on the
team by the name of Xavier McKinney, first player in
fifty five years since the NFLFL Merger to get an

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interception in each of his first five games with a
new team. Those are some of the things that are
talking about around the water cooler. What else, Well, you
know what, it's early. You can't draw a lot of conclusions.
You can't be prisoner of their moment. But Kayleb Williams
last week finished with three hundred and four yards and

(01:35:39):
two touchdowns and only took one sack. And we will
find out in about five hours now if the upside
of the Bears offense continues. It may or may not.
All right, the Bears have been looking for a breakout,
a QBR breakout. You know, we've seen bo Nicks do it.
We've seen Jayden Daniels do it, Mike Caleb Williams do it.

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He's trending upward. He's trending upward. His QBR Week two
was twenty, his QBR Week five was eighty one. By
the way, the Bears put up thirty six points last week. Yes,
it was the Carolina Panthers, but the same Panthers that
came in here and beat the Raiders. Silly Bears are
three and two. They're three and two, and again, remember

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Caleb Williams finished with three hundred and four yards and
two touchdowns. So you know what, we're equal opportunity. We
call him as we see him. Caleb Williams had kind
of a dubious start. But listen, I know we didn't
question the talent, we didn't question his physical gifts. Let's
see what he does, Let's see if it continues. But

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for one week last week, he turned some heads. Finally. Look,
I know the Raiders want to move DeVante Adams and
they want to get a second round pick. And DeVante
Adams says a thirteen million dollars salary, and Raiders would
like in a perfect world somebody would swoop in, give

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him a second round pick and pay Davante Adams thirteen million.
No one wants to do that or what happened already.
The Raiders have until November fifth. I think their leverage
goes down the closer it gets, maybe more teams enter
the fray. And you know, all these people who thought
he was going to the Jets just because Aaron Rodgers,
I don't know, they could end up being right. I
never thought that. I didn't say he wasn't or he was,

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the reality of it is I think it best the
Raiders will get a third rounder. And I know DeVante
Adams says he's open to, you know, multiple teams, but
he prefers the Saints of the Jets, which is it's
so important to the Raiders to just give DeVante Adams
what he wants just because, Yeah, why not try to
win games? Look, I think would be a great story
for the Raiders knock off Pittsburgh Sunday, you know, about

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twelve hours from now. Seriously, the football is better than
the Raiders are good. Unfortunately they're not good. But you know,
after losing to Minnesota, giving the game away, Aaron Rodgers
three picks and missing Garrett Wilson wide open Garrett Wilson
on paper, could another threat alongside of Garrett Wilson help

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Aaron Rodgers help the Jets. I don't know. It feels
like that might be a lot of mouse to feed.
And I feel like when I feel like when Devanta
Adams doesn't get the ball, it could be winning forty
nine to nothing, he just sulks. I've seen it too
many times. I think even other players have seen it
too many times. But such as life, the tooth of

(01:38:39):
the matter is as Burt Bell said, you know, on
any given Sunday, on any given Sunday, anybody can beat anybody,
and we are seeing that. What will happen coming up
later on today, Let's talk about some of the games.
Let's talk about the games on the docket and Fez
and I talked about it from a ga ambling standpoint

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earlier in the show with the Physik five. Let's talk
about it from a Storylon standpoint, and we'll begin with
the Bears and the Jaguars coming up. But first we
go back to our guy, Kevin Wyn, the chef with
the latest chef. That's one of your better ones. Man
went into the cookie jar.

Speaker 5 (01:39:18):
Now one.

Speaker 6 (01:39:18):
I was practicing that one, and Man, I really let
it rip for you guys there, and.

Speaker 2 (01:39:23):
You were you were, you were getting after it.

Speaker 6 (01:39:26):
Yeah, yet and after it like Texas on Oklahoma today,
Man thirty four to three, as Quinn you weres just
twenty at twenty nine and ninety nine yards and a
touchdown pass. But Texas really getting it done on defense,
shutting out Oklahoma for the final three quarters of the game.
As the Longhorns now six and zero in the season

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and now two to zero in their first ever campaign
in the SEC. Number two Ohio State number three or again.
This was one of the top matchups of the year
entering tonight and one man. This one really lived up
to it, as Oregon stopping Ohio State on the final
play as they hold on for a thirty two to

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thirty one victory. Dylan Gabriel with an outstanding performance for
the Ducks in the victory as he had three hundred
and forty one yards and a couple of touchdown passes.
Number four Penn State in usc as the Troches led
by two touchdowns at halftime so looked like they might

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bounce back from their loss to Minnesota. The Nitney Lyons
erasing it, forcing overtime where they do eventually win it
thirty three to thirty. Number five Georgia forty one thirty
one winners against Mississippi State Number seven. Alabama hangs on
for dear life, but they do get the win against
South Carolina twenty seven to twenty five, Number eight Tennessee

(01:40:50):
and Florida. This one goes to overtime in Knoxville, but
it is the Volunteers winning it twenty three to seventeen.
LSU didn't have a lead into the final play in overtime,
but they do get the win against Number nine Ole
Miss twenty nine to twenty six. Tenth thran Clemson forty
nine to fourteen overweight Forest, Number eleven Notre Dame pounds

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Stanford forty nine to seven, and number eleven Iowa State
beats West Virginia twenty eight to sixteen. In the Big twelve,
it's number fourteen BYU blowing out Arizona forty one nineteen
out on the Islands. Number seventeen Boise State pulling away
from Hawaii twenty eight to seven, and man, this is
one of the better games of the evening in a boulder.
Number eighteen Kansas State in Colorado, crazy fourth quarter, a

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couple of different lead changes, but Kansas State eventually wins
this one thirty one to twenty eight. Number twenty two
Pittsburgh holds off cal seventeen to fifteen. Number twenty three
Illinois fifty to forty nine winners against Perdue back to Bernie.

Speaker 2 (01:41:51):
Chef, keep me here for a second year now. First
of all, are you even a USC fan or do you.

Speaker 6 (01:41:55):
I know why I actually grew up at USC hater
because my family loves Notre Dame so oh, well, they'll.

Speaker 2 (01:42:02):
Be plighting each other. Yeah, of the year. All right,
So what's the local narrative regarding Lincoln Riley. He's eleven
and ten in his last twenty one. He's five and
eight in his last thirteen. Let's keep it real here, Okay,
this is not what the USC faithful expected.

Speaker 6 (01:42:17):
Yeah, this is certainly not the expectations that they had
for Lincoln Riley. He was expected to come in and
basically have the national championship contenders every season. But after
their struggles last year and now they're just three and
three and Lincoln Riley again having issues at press conferences,
it seems like he did last every band or reporter

(01:42:38):
this year.

Speaker 2 (01:42:38):
Yeah, what happened? Did some happen today? He snapped through.
I didn't I don't want to.

Speaker 1 (01:42:42):
Remember last week him.

Speaker 6 (01:42:43):
I didn't hear about it today, But I just know
when they lost to Minnesota, he stepped in and did
not allow I think it was a Miller moss I
answered the questions that was asked to him at the podium.
So Lincoln Riley has not been handling these past couple
of seasons well at all. He's acting like a small time,
small town coach. He's not acting like a coach. In

(01:43:06):
the second biggest media market in America, LA is a
town that demands winners demand right.

Speaker 2 (01:43:13):
I believe me. I know all that. I'm just asking
about Lincoln Riley. Uh share, are you are you? Are
you a USC fan? And I know you're in Arizona
State guy, you're a USC fan?

Speaker 4 (01:43:24):
No?

Speaker 9 (01:43:24):
Yeah, I'm an ASC guy.

Speaker 2 (01:43:26):
Okay. Hey, they look, man, they looked really good against
Utah Friday night.

Speaker 9 (01:43:33):
It's good to be dude.

Speaker 2 (01:43:34):
They look like a heavyweight and they made Utah look
like a lightweight. I mean they won the line of scrimmage. Man,
I thought Frank Kush was back on the sidelines for
a minute there, real quickly though, in all seriousness, can
you give us any insights on on Lincoln Riley and USC?
Because this isn't funny anymore. And by the way, I'll ask,

(01:43:54):
I'll ask both you and the chef this. They have
remaining games at Maryland. That's not to be easy at
Washington and then I say this in air quotes at UCLA,
but UCLA is We'll just leave it there. But they
also have home games against Rutgers, a very physical team
who beat Washington, Nebraska, who's five and one, and Notre Dame.

(01:44:17):
That's six games. In a minute, I'll ask you what
you think they'll do in those six games. What's going
on Lincoln Riley? Seriously?

Speaker 10 (01:44:23):
I mean, honestly, the last two games. If he wasn't
getting paid so much, he would be in the hot seed.
If he wasn't who he was, he would be in
the hot seed. I mean, you're losing these two games
to rank teams so close. And it's not just like, oh,
it's an interception, Yeah, there were interceptions. Yeah, it's it's
a mistake. But it's coaching errors. It's not making the

(01:44:46):
correct timeouts, it's not doing the correct play calling. It's
and you could see it. It's it's it's easy coaching errors.
And I'm like, don't get me wrong, I'm a twenty
four year old in radio, Okay, Like I might not
know what I'm doing, but I know when to take
a time out when not to take a time out.
And it seems like Lincoln Riley has completely just forgot

(01:45:08):
how to coach when it comes to the last like
three minutes in the fourth quarter. So I don't know,
I think that's something that us. He definitely needs to
figure out. But yeah, if he was anyone else, I
seriously think he would be on the hot seat right now.

Speaker 2 (01:45:22):
Well, I'll share something with you you might find interesting.
He replaced a guy, as you guys all know. He
replaced Clay Hilton. Clay Helton was forty six and twenty four,
twenty two games above five hundred, and he was thirty
six and thirteen in conference. All right, Lincoln Riley, he's
only coached thirty three games. I believe at USC he's

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twenty two and eleven. He was eleven and three his
first year and they lost in the Cotton Bowl. Then
he fell to eight and five last year, and now
they're three and three. All right, give me your prediction.
Could they be under five hundred if they go two
and four in those games I just mentioned the end
up on five hundred.

Speaker 1 (01:46:02):
I think they go six and six at this point,
I think.

Speaker 2 (01:46:04):
I think you're probably right.

Speaker 1 (01:46:05):
That's so they'll get a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:46:07):
I don't think they're beating Utre Dame. I don't know
if they're beating Abraska. I don't know if they're beating Rutgers.
They're gonna lose one of the two either at Maryland
or at Washington.

Speaker 6 (01:46:14):
I believe that I can see in Washington that's a
tough place to play.

Speaker 2 (01:46:19):
Very tough. Yeah, and let me tell you something. Maryland's
got a lot of athletes, and I think they're four
and one or what. They've got a winning record. That's
the point, Shaye, what do you think the record's gonna be?

Speaker 9 (01:46:28):
I agree, six and six. I don't I don't see
them beating Rutgers.

Speaker 2 (01:46:31):
I don't know. They'll get They'll get to a bowl game.
They'll go to the Minute Bowl or somebody and play
Harvey Thorp School of Trucking and that'll be the end
of it. And you know, look, nobody's safe when you're
paid that kind of money. I don't know. You know,
even Colin Coward is starting to, you know, cast dispersions down.
I thought Colin thought he was the greatest thing since
Pepperoni Pizza when he got there, and he was. He

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was eleven and three his first year, so I get
that right. And apparently the school had Clay Helton fatigue.
If you look at he's record, wasn't that bad? Mark
you want to weigh in on.

Speaker 11 (01:47:03):
This, I'm just like a bystander watching college coaches. I guess,
wasn't he sort of okay at Oklahoma and.

Speaker 2 (01:47:13):
Then you're good at Oklahoma? But the problem is he
never had good defenses.

Speaker 11 (01:47:17):
But what was it in Oklahoma that made us he
think he was something special?

Speaker 2 (01:47:23):
Well, he wanted Oklahoma, there's no there's no doubt about that.

Speaker 11 (01:47:26):
But so he was winning there, but he comes here
and he can't win. It's interesting what they saw.

Speaker 2 (01:47:34):
So what's your opinion? Is he's he good or not?
That's just you know, I.

Speaker 11 (01:47:37):
Well, just based on what's going on, he seems to
be not holding up his end off coaching the team
and being able to inspire them to play the game,
whether he's not picking good quarterbacks, just the offense of
the defense. I mean, if he is the coach, he's
not bringing the good ideas or finding ways to motivate

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them to play what they're.

Speaker 1 (01:47:59):
Supposed to be doing.

Speaker 11 (01:48:02):
Yeah, I mean, if he was doing it in Oklahoma
and the bosses thought he was good enough to come
here when there was an opening, what has happened to
his abilities?

Speaker 2 (01:48:11):
Well, the bottom line is he hasn't man expectations. I mean,
it's a very complex subject to get into Oklahoma was
always lacking in the defense department. I don't think they
wanted him to believe. He certainly was never going to
get fired at Oklahoma. He got him to the National
Championship Game a couple of times and got blown out.
They just kept falling short. There was this belief that
with the resources of USC, he could restore the USC

(01:48:34):
to what it truly was back in the day, which
was almost almost indescribable, how good that program was in
the seventies.

Speaker 11 (01:48:42):
So in your view, do you think this is your idea?
Do you think he thought USC would be some greater
job and he could do something here versus what he
was doing in Oklahoma.

Speaker 2 (01:48:51):
Well, obviously you thought that, or he wouldn't have taken it.

Speaker 11 (01:48:54):
So then they saw something into him. So did they
go after him or did he come here like because
there was an open I mean, I don't get what
the idea was that he wanted to come here.

Speaker 2 (01:49:06):
I just got a tweet from a guy by a
named Perita who tweeted, HI last night. I'm just gonna
read it. I'm not It's sometimes the people syntax and
Twitter is not great. So I'll do my best. Bernie here,
I write the athletic fept today. Whatever that meant. If
we wanted mediocre, we should have kept Helton, who was

(01:49:26):
a cheaper. I said, kick his ass out and take
his stooge card with him to the mac. Yeah. I
do remember that people had Clay Helton fatigue. But he
was forty six and twenty four. Now, Lincoln Riley, he
can't lie. He's not doing any better. And you guys
heard the joke I told last night about the husband
and wife team in Las Vegas. Right, Husband's playing blackjack.

(01:49:48):
Wife comes up and says, can I have another one
hundred dollars to play slots? Husband gets pissed. Quedo Mark.
Husband gets pissed. She's what, You've already lost five hundred
dollars playing slots. Yeah, but you've lost over five thousand
dollars playing Blackjackets said, yeah, but I know what I'm doing.
Good Oise Mark? All right, where am I going with that?

(01:50:12):
The presumption was, even though Clay Helton was forty six
and twenty four, they didn't know what he was doing,
and he was not going to get them to the
promised Land, which is the playoff, which is a championship.
And I listen, there are far too many panel shows
on all the networks. So you got people up there.

(01:50:32):
It's almost like the the you know, the movie back,
you know with the Leslie Nielsa was in when they
had Doctor Joyce brothers got lined up nine deep, half
of them making predictions and analysis. Have no clue what
they're doing. One of the other networks, I'm not going
to out. I had a guest picker recently and she
picked a certain team to win because they had nicer uniforms.
They can't make this up. There was there was at
least one person who thought USD would be in the
National Championship Game this year. So what's interesting is you

(01:50:55):
got to a point with with Clay Hilton whereby expectations
had fallen to such a level. This gentleman who tweeted
here at me said move him to the map, get
rid of him. You want to be the yocre way
to kept him. Well, his record's actually probably a little
better than Lincoln Riley's is. And so the expectations based

(01:51:15):
on what happened versus what's happening I think mark is
really the real issue here. The perception that Lincoln Riley
and he came out of the gate pretty good. Eleven
and three, so anyway, all good stuff. I appreciate your
tweet period Mark Chef say, we can't we're not solved,
even attempting to solve any problems here. But I think

(01:51:36):
you all raised very valid points. All right, whatever he
was doing at Oklahoma that caused him to want to leave,
it's not working here. Chef, you brought up a good
point about the press confience. I didn't see it today,
so I didn't want to comment on it. But you
hear the you know, the group think echo chamber, and
it doesn't look good. And like you said, Kevin, look

(01:51:56):
this is a team that just simply has underchieved. And Ei,
there're three and three, and I think both of you
guys are right. They'll probably end up six and six.
I don't see them. I honestly don't see them beating
Notre Dame. That's a home game. Nebraska is a toss up.
I think Nebraska could get him and Rutgers could get him.
I think they go to Maryland and Washington lose. One
of those said they're gonna lose three more games. Now,

(01:52:18):
what's interesting is just two weeks ago, three weeks ago,
they led, They led, Michigan in the last minute and
couldn't close it. And that's kind of my beef with
Lincoln Riley teams. There's something about the DNA of Lincoln
Riley teams and when the heat gets hot, it's hard
to breathe. And high leverage moments down the road, they
just don't make the plays when they need them. They're
driving for a potential field goal, and I think Miller

(01:52:40):
Moss a good quarterback. I do it's good quarterback. Throws
the pick, Penn Steak gets the ball back, they get
to overtime, USC can't punch it in the end zone.
Poor kid misses the field goal, Penn Steak goes down,
they make their field goal. You see where I'm going
with that. This is the twilight Zone. This is Groundhog Day.
Bill Murray and Andy McDowell. Just pick your poison. Next week,

(01:53:02):
they traveled to Maryland. Do not be surprised if they
stumble in Maryland, Do not be surprised. All right, coming up,
I do want to get back to the NFL. Talk
about some storylines, starting with the Bears. The Bears, you
wonder could they actually turn a corner? Well, something is

(01:53:24):
happening later on this morning. That hasn't happened in Chicago
since twenty twenty one, and that means the Bears are
actually favored in a game outside of Chicago. Last time
the Bears were favored and a game not played at
Soldier Field was against the Lions back in week twelve
and twenty twenty one. Well, they beat the Jaggs. We'll
tell you what the storylines are that among other games

(01:53:45):
coming up. My Bernie Fradier were kemedy you live from
the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Tarat dot com studios.
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(01:54:05):
What kind of brand new fool you followed by what
my name? Dub Bears? Yeah, I don't look now three
and two. They kick it off here in about four
hours and forty minutes against the Jaguars over in London,
Tottenham Hotspur Stadium, a beautiful, modern, state of the out stadium.

(01:54:27):
I was there in May, got access all the way
around field, locker rooms, everything. It's amazing, really really nice place.
So I'm slappy. I'll watch the game, yep, I will.
And there are a couple storylines the Bears. Listen, let's
face it, they're a team that's historically been built on defense,
ground and pound. And I don't know why Jim McMahon

(01:54:49):
never gets to love people at the audacity to say
Caleb Williams is the best quarterback in franchise history before
he'd played a game. Come on, maybe they were intimating that,
but it's all theoretical. You never saw Jim McMahon play.
The guy was a baller. That Bears team in eighty
five that beat New England forty six to ten in
the Super Bowl in eighty six, they checked every box man.
They had Speed two, Willie gaul McKinnon, Walter Payton and

(01:55:14):
of course the forty six defense and Buddy Ryan. So
it's hard to believe that Chicago just this last week
TI it's long a streak over thirty years, when they
actually rushed through multiple touchdowns in two straight games and
back to back weeks against the Rams and the Panthers. Now,
the last time the Bears rushed for three straight touchdown
game was in nineteen ninety. But the way DeAndre Slift

(01:55:38):
has been toting the ball that could be broken against
the Jaguars. Here in a few hours, Swift has garnered
over one hundred scrimmage yards and back to back weeks
tied for the longest streak of his career. It's going
to be an interesting game. It's a referendum game for
both teams. If the Jaguars win, you know they're semi alive.

(01:55:59):
You heard me say it earlier, Bobby Ross. He was
oning four with the ninety two Chargers. He got to
the playoffs the only time it's ever happened. Jaguars are
one and five. You can pretty much grinch him off
your d card dance carpet. If the Bears, hey, if
they go four and two in that same division with
the Lions and the Vikings, hey hey, ah again. The

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Bears haven't been favored in a game outside of Chicago
since twenty twenty one. Last time they were favored any
game not played in Soldier Field was against the Lions
back in Week twelve. Back in twenty twenty one, they
were laying two and a half. Chicago is now an underdog.
Fezick likes the Bears. We talked about this, and you know,

(01:56:42):
whenever there's a reversal, whenever a team starts out as
a favorite, which the Bears were, they were a two
point favorite. They one and a half none swung around.
The Bears are a one point dog. That usually favors
the team that people are betting against. Right now, it
looks like the Bearers have a fifty nine percent chance
of winning that game. They're not going to get my money.

(01:57:02):
I just don't trust him yet. I don't, but I'm
going to be watching because, as we said earlier multiple
times in the show, Bert Bell, the original commissioner the
National Football League, said, on any given Sunday, anybody can
beat anybody. Yep, coming up, what kind of brand new
fool you followed by what my name? Keep it locked?
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that juncture in the show, as we do every week
at two am Pacific, five am Easter. And you see
here on the Bernie Frater Show. I hate when I
go third person will As Yogi Berra once said, you
can observe a lot by watching, and that's exactly what
we do see because around the globe, around this great
country of ours, people engage in activities. Now. Oftentimes the

(01:58:12):
activities are just a little silly, and they're often innocuous
and no harm, no foul. But many times these activities
are more serious. They can land you in trouble. Sometimes
they run to follow the law, people get injured, and
they even end up in jail. But anyway you slice it, anyway,
describe it, any way you characterize it, All of these

(01:58:34):
activities we refer to, well, they always leave us scratching
our head and asking ourselves, what kind of brand new
fool are you?

Speaker 12 (01:58:48):
So?

Speaker 1 (01:58:49):
What kind of brand new fool are you?

Speaker 2 (01:58:52):
Well, this is something I thought I'd never do, but
I have to do it, and it involves a currant
college football player. I have to do it. This individual's
not going to go to jail, he's not going to
be even in trouble with the law. But what happens

(01:59:13):
Saturday night in the Oregon Ohio State game defies logic.
And in case you missed it, this is the third
such incident of this nature. You see back on August
twenty fourth, under the radar, that's sim you had a
defensive back by the name of Brandon Crossley. He was
kicked out of the game for spitting on a Nevada player.

(01:59:35):
About a week and a half ago, there was a
running back from Memphis named Mario Anderson Junior. He was
thrown out for spitting on a South Florida player Saturday night,
in arguably the biggest game in the college football season.
Oregon receiver tree Shawn Holden was ejected Saturday. Well, that's
the Department of redundancy department Saturday night for against Ohio State.

(01:59:58):
Front sportsman like conduct his quote, he spit on a
Buckeyes player. And by the way, it was actually the
second spit against it of the day. The individual from
Memphis spit on the South Florida player earlier Saturday. But
I digress. All right, this is a big game, man.
Oregon's ranked second. They're driving in the second quarter, Holden

(02:00:19):
was forced to lead the game. He spits at a quarterback,
at a cornerback by the name of Davis, and somebody
right through the face mask. To Davison's credit, he didn't retaliate.
Then you know, this kid holding had like this chest
Shire cat smile on his face like it was really cool.
And then he got kicked out of the game. He

(02:00:39):
was escorted off the field and as he acted real cool,
then he until he got to the tunnel. He didn't
know the camera was on him. He took off his
helmet and threw it farther than Andy Reid Junior did
in a punk pass and kick competition back when he
was thirteen years old. That would be Andrew Reid Junior.
By the way, Google it, you love it. And then
he fell to the ground and started, you know, wailing,
and all of a sudden reality set in. Well, he

(02:01:03):
didn't exactly help his team. That fifteen yard penalty pushed
the Ducks back to the twenty five. They end up
having to settled for a field goal. Now Oregon won
the game thirty two to thirty one. But Steve Shaw,
the NCAA's supervisor of officials, said that anytime a player
spits on an opponent, it's a flagrant on sportsman like
conduct penalty requiring injection. And he said it doesn't seem

(02:01:23):
to be a big new trend. Well, there's been three
of them a month, but it could merit discussion this
week with conference supervisors. You think, by the way, Holden's
a good player. At that point in the game, he'd
only had one catch for thirty two yards, but he
was a transfer from Bama. He played all fourteen games
last season, thirty seven catches, one hundred and I think
like five hundred yards and caught six touchdown passes. The

(02:01:44):
Ducks need him. All I got to say is holding
be better? What kind of brand new fool? Are you?
All right? Chef letter rip?

Speaker 1 (02:01:54):
All right?

Speaker 6 (02:01:55):
So we go to Denver, Colorado, where the Jefferson the
Sheriff's Office shared a story about one thief who has
not learned his lesson even after several convictions. So a
man who had several prior convictions for stealing cars drove

(02:02:15):
to his probation hearing and get this, a stolen car?

Speaker 2 (02:02:21):
Why not he's consistent.

Speaker 6 (02:02:24):
So deputies checked the security cameras in the courthouse's parking lot.
They noticed something unusual and noticed that the car he
was in was reported stolen. So the sheriff said. Deputies
met up with a man. Once he got out of
the elevator. They placed him in handcuffs and he tried
to deny any wrongdoing, said he borrowed the car from
a friend. Well, it turned out that friend at least

(02:02:47):
wasn't in on the car being borrowed, as it was
reported stolen. And again he is facing yet another auto
theft charge and not say exactly what the name of
the man is in this report. So unidentified man in
a Denver, Colorado, What kind of brand new fool are you?

Speaker 2 (02:03:08):
You know what, sipisen chef. We said he stilled the
car because he ended a point where his probation officer.
Do we know what he was what his priority? Obviously
he'd been convicted of a crime.

Speaker 1 (02:03:18):
Yeah, stealing cars. He was convicted already.

Speaker 2 (02:03:21):
Repeat offender. Okay, I'm sorry, Okay, very good, very good,
good one, chef. And that's in Denver. Yes, so we
have we have a Jugeni organ. We have Denver. Might
we have a Florida setting. Shay, you're up next, buddy.

Speaker 10 (02:03:34):
We unfortunately do not. We're going to Toledo, Ohio for this. Yeah,
a little different, but maybe next week we'll be going
back to Florida. But in a nine year old boy
accidentally ran over his father while he was teaching him
how to drive outside their Toledo home. What this is
a woozy, very nee, It's quick, but it's a woozy

(02:03:57):
and Ohio father ended up in the hospital after he
was over by his nine year old son while I
was teaching the.

Speaker 9 (02:04:02):
Boy how to drive.

Speaker 10 (02:04:03):
According to cops, it happened around one pm Sunday at
a home in the one hundred block of Carbon Street
and Toledo local ABC affiliate obtained surveillance video of the
incident from a home across the street, and it shows
the thirty six year old Slugen Williams inside the open
door jam on the driver's side. Williams reportedly told the

(02:04:25):
boy to hit the brake, but the boy didn't know
which pedal it was what he hit the gas and
the car went into reverse. The video shows Williams being
dragged by the vehicle as it backs out into the
street and smashes into a telephone pole. Williams gets stuck
under the car and run over. Paramedics rushed him into
the hospital, and cops have not released his condition. He

(02:04:46):
was intoxicated during the incident, which explains a lot according
to police. The boy was not her and another child
was in the backseat but was uninjured. Police arrested Williams
for wrongfully entrusting a person without a license and child
and Dangerman coordinator records. He has a court date scheduled
for October sixteenth, so in three days.

Speaker 2 (02:05:09):
So I'm guessing I don't know what this fine gentleman
does for a living, but I'm guessing he's not a
professional driving instructor. Is that fair?

Speaker 1 (02:05:17):
You know what?

Speaker 9 (02:05:18):
Maybe he was just drunk and he wasn't on it.
He could be a professional driving instructor.

Speaker 2 (02:05:21):
He's drunk, and he said, why don't they teach myself driving?
By the way, Minerson, watch you happ in the back
seat and go for a little joy ride.

Speaker 9 (02:05:28):
Show the boys what he does.

Speaker 2 (02:05:29):
Meanwhile, run me over. I'll sit in the hospital and
sober up and ask myself what kind of brand new fool,
mir that's a good one. That adds a lot of layers,
a lot of layers. They know how to have fun
in Taledo, don't they. Oh yeah, all right, guys, great job.
Another that concludes another rousing addition of what kind of
brand new fool you? Which now allows us the sec

(02:05:51):
way in our second favorite bit, and which is what
my name? All right? I'm the only NFL coach in
history to actually start zero to four and still make
the playoffs? Mark Ramsey, what my name?

Speaker 11 (02:06:08):
I forgot his first name, but it's Ross.

Speaker 2 (02:06:10):
I'm gonna give it to you. Bobby Ross, yep, Bobby
Ross and the San Diego Chargers, Bobby pass through Detroit.
I covered that team. He quit in the middle of
the year and they had a winning record. He didn't
like it. He thought Wayne Fonce had left a country
club atmosphere. I always liked Bobby Ross. He wanted Army,
he wanted Maryland. Got the charge of the Super Bowl
in ninety five. Good Man, good coach Bobby Ross all right.

(02:06:34):
As an original NFL commissioner, I coined the phrase on
any given Sunday, the chef Kevin.

Speaker 1 (02:06:41):
Wyret, Oh, when you said this, and I forgot the name,
It's not Pete Roselle.

Speaker 2 (02:06:44):
Is it not Pete Roselle. But you're right. I have
sat the name twice tonight. As a former NFL commissioner,
I coined the phrase on any given Sunday, Shay, what my.

Speaker 10 (02:06:52):
Name on any given Sunday? Oh my god, Mark, you
need to help us out here, man, you need to
come and clutch.

Speaker 2 (02:07:00):
I've said that, I've said the name of I's okay.

Speaker 11 (02:07:04):
I know you said what the name is, but I'm
gonna say al Pacino.

Speaker 1 (02:07:08):
Well, of course the movie.

Speaker 2 (02:07:10):
Got it even Sunday. Nicely done. I should give you
half a point for creativity. Actually, Burt Bell, Bert Bell,
all right. I've been sacked more than any other quarterback
in the National Football League this season, Mark Ramsey, what
my name?

Speaker 11 (02:07:28):
Sacked more? Dak Prescott?

Speaker 2 (02:07:34):
Not Dak Prescott. I've been sacked more than any other
quarterback in the NFL this season. The chef Kevin Wirrett,
what my name?

Speaker 1 (02:07:41):
Watson?

Speaker 2 (02:07:41):
You got it, man, DeShawn Watson.

Speaker 1 (02:07:44):
Massage Watson.

Speaker 2 (02:07:47):
You know he's been He's been hit more of than
Rocky Bell Bowl this year.

Speaker 5 (02:07:50):
Man.

Speaker 2 (02:07:50):
I gotta say, I wonder if he gets massages anymore,
because now I could really use him, right, all right,
we are we are you know, we are monks. We
are midst Let me try that again in English. You
see if I can make it any clunk here the NFL.
Let me try that again. I haven't been drinking, honest,
and I haven't been teaching my seven year old how
to drive either. All right. The Major League Baseball playoffs

(02:08:13):
are raging. We now have the championship series among us
upon us, I don't know what'stronomy. I hold the record
among all Major League Baseball managers with the most consecutive
postseason appearances with fourteen. Shaan Mogngar, what my.

Speaker 9 (02:08:28):
Name, But that's Dave Roberts, not.

Speaker 2 (02:08:32):
David Arms, not David Obberts. He's getting up there, but
not that many. I hold the record among all Major
League Baseball managers in history for the most consecutive postseason
appearances with fourteen. Mark Ramsey was in my name. Leo
du Rocher, nice guy, that's finished last, The legendary Leo

(02:08:53):
de Roacher, one of seventeen, one of one hundred and
seventeen members posthumously oosthumously inducted into the Hall of Fame.
By the way, do you guys hear they canceled that
situation that Pete Rose Memorial in Cincinnati because they couldn't
agree on some things. So even even in death, turmoil
follows people. No way. Yeah, yeah, I'll tell maybe I'll

(02:09:16):
if I get to the halftime. I'll get to that,
all right. I hold the record among all Major League
Baseball managers in history with the most consecutive postseason appearances
with fourteen. Uh, chef Kevin Wire.

Speaker 1 (02:09:26):
What my name Joe Tory, Not Joe Tory, but you
had to be one.

Speaker 2 (02:09:30):
Of the right teams. He managed that team for a while.

Speaker 1 (02:09:32):
Bobby Cox, I was giving my second guest had Okay.

Speaker 2 (02:09:35):
Let's try it again, the record of all.

Speaker 6 (02:09:42):
I knew it had to be one of those two
because Joe Tory managed the Yankees in that mid nineties
dynasty and then led the Dodgers to two consecutive playoff
appearances after he went from New York to LA. But
I also knew Bobby Cox had that run of division titles,
so I had to remember which.

Speaker 2 (02:09:57):
Got into the postseason.

Speaker 1 (02:09:58):
Yeah, so I remember remember exactly who was longer, but
it was Boley Cow's.

Speaker 2 (02:10:03):
It was Okay, this one's a little tricky. Guys. But
if you know the trivia, you're gonna get it. You're
all Dodgers fans. I have more postseason home runs than
any other catcher in Dodgers' history, Mark Ramsey, what my name?

Speaker 11 (02:10:22):
I think he was the oh I can't think of
his name, but he was the Italian guy. But after
igot his name.

Speaker 2 (02:10:30):
I have more postseason home runs than any catcher in Dodgers' history,
Shaim Ogngar, What my name.

Speaker 9 (02:10:39):
Mike Pause, that's a good guess, but it's not him.

Speaker 2 (02:10:42):
It's not him, and maybe that's what you were thinking of.

Speaker 1 (02:10:43):
The I think he only played in like six or
seven postseason games.

Speaker 2 (02:10:47):
All right. I have more postseasons the other catcher in
Dodgers history, the chef, what my name?

Speaker 1 (02:10:54):
The fresh Prince of bel Air, Will Smith?

Speaker 9 (02:10:56):
You got it, buddy, Will Swow.

Speaker 2 (02:11:00):
I might have now hadn't got the right answer. I
was going to give a clue that he's been getting
jiggy with it, and you would have gotten that. As
we move along, a hip hipster, all right. Prior to
David Montgomery, I was the last Detroit Lion to garner
a rushing touchdown in seven straight games. Mark Ramsey what

(02:11:23):
my name?

Speaker 9 (02:11:28):
I can't think of, no problem.

Speaker 2 (02:11:31):
Prior to David Montgomery, who just got a nice extension,
I was the last Detroit Lions running back to garner
a touchdown in seven straight games. The chef Kevin Wyret.

Speaker 1 (02:11:43):
What my name Barry Sanders?

Speaker 2 (02:11:45):
Nope, not Barry Sanders. Prior to David Montgomery, I was
the last Detroit Lion to rush for a touchdown in
seven straight games. Shaye, what my name?

Speaker 9 (02:11:54):
It Wasn't give me a clue.

Speaker 2 (02:11:58):
He went to college in the same state.

Speaker 9 (02:12:01):
In the same state to Michigan.

Speaker 2 (02:12:04):
Owns a big barbecue deal in Hooks, Texas. Now Billy Simms, guys,
Billy Simms, the great Billy Simms. Great guy too. You
used to come back.

Speaker 9 (02:12:12):
That's like in the eighties, dude, Right he was.

Speaker 2 (02:12:15):
In Yeah, he played in the NFL during the eighties. Yep.
His debut was in Los Angeles when they played the
Lions played the Rams at the old Anaheim Well at
current Anaheim Stateium when they played their home games there.
The Lions beat him that day forty one to twenty.
That was the returning Super Bowl team in Billy Simms
rush forver for two hundred dards. Hell of a game.
Here's a fun one for you guys. For you trivia buffs,

(02:12:37):
I'm the only NBA player in history to win a
Heisman Trophy. Mark Ramsey, what my name?

Speaker 11 (02:12:45):
Now that I have no idea?

Speaker 2 (02:12:47):
Okay, no problem of the only NBA player in history
to win a Heisman Trophy? Chef, what my name?

Speaker 1 (02:12:52):
NBA player to win a Heisman Trophy?

Speaker 2 (02:12:54):
You guys are going to be kicking yourself when you
hear it.

Speaker 6 (02:12:58):
I think you actually played in that. I know, Bill
sit and play baseball and basketball.

Speaker 2 (02:13:01):
But alight, let's move on. I'm the only NBA player
in history to ain Heisman Trophy. Shay, what my name?

Speaker 9 (02:13:14):
What an achievement, by the way, right, yeah, wow, but
I have no idea.

Speaker 2 (02:13:19):
Well, guys, I'll give you a clue. You might get it.
He matriculated at Florida State.

Speaker 9 (02:13:26):
Oh oh oh no, no, I'm Charlie Ward.

Speaker 2 (02:13:30):
You got it. Charlie Ward. Very dynamic quarterback. But it
did quite transfer to the NFL, so he never really
got a shot.

Speaker 1 (02:13:37):
Wait when did he play in the NBA nineties? Oka nineties?

Speaker 2 (02:13:41):
And yeah, all right, for you betters, I'm the most
profitable quarterback in the National Football League against the spread
the last two seasons. Mark Ramsey, with my name?

Speaker 11 (02:13:56):
Well, let's see Tom Brady quit, so it's not him.

Speaker 1 (02:14:00):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:14:02):
I'm the most profitable quarterback in the National Football League
in the last two seasons against the spread. Mark ram
I'm sorry, I just had Mark Shay. What my name.

Speaker 9 (02:14:16):
Against the spread? Let's go Josh Allen.

Speaker 2 (02:14:19):
Not Josh Allen, although he's done pretty well too. I'm
the most profitable quarterback of the National Football League against
the spread the last two seasons. Chef, What my name?

Speaker 1 (02:14:31):
Patrick Mahomes?

Speaker 2 (02:14:32):
It's actually Jared Goff. Guys, whoa Goff? All right? Moving along?
Two more. I'm the only quarterback in college football history
to win three games outright when my team was an
underdog of twenty points or more. Mark Ramsey, what my name?

Speaker 11 (02:14:55):
Doug Fluty.

Speaker 2 (02:14:57):
Not Doug Flutie. I don't think you at Boston College.
He was well fair enough to move on. I'm the
only quarterback in history in college football to win three
games outright as an underdog of twenty points or more.
Chef with my name?

Speaker 1 (02:15:12):
Man, three games? I couldn't even.

Speaker 2 (02:15:14):
Guess the problem? All right, I'm the only quarterback in
college football history to win three games out right as
an underdog of twenty points or more. Shaye, what my name?

Speaker 9 (02:15:29):
This is very specific? Bernie oh Man. Yeah, I can't
even I wouldn't even know.

Speaker 2 (02:15:37):
First of all, he did it twice last year with
New Mexico State. Did it last week against Alabama, by
the way, engineered a game against Kentucky. Diego Pavia of Vanderbilt.

Speaker 9 (02:15:47):
Oh yeah, all.

Speaker 2 (02:15:50):
Right, last one. You're gonna hear this, dude. Man, he's
the goods. Okay, we no longer have the BCS, but
you guys remember the bc Yeah, I was the head coach.
I was the only head coach of a team who
actually won a national championship during the BCS era, even

(02:16:11):
though we had two losses. Mark Ramsey, what my name?

Speaker 11 (02:16:15):
Saying the question again?

Speaker 2 (02:16:17):
Oh I know. I'm the only two loss coach in
the BCS era to win a national championship? Mark Ramsey,
what my name means? They won? They won the title
even though they had two losses, and it was unheard
of to get into the title game with two losses
during the BCS era.

Speaker 11 (02:16:33):
I'm gonna say it wasn't. Bar Bryant was not.

Speaker 2 (02:16:35):
Bear Bryant, who's got this.

Speaker 1 (02:16:38):
Let's see go ahead, less Miles.

Speaker 2 (02:16:41):
It is in fact, less Miles lsu back in two
thousand and seven. All right, guys, great job. Actually coming up.
I want to go around the room because off air,
Mark Ramsey brought up a really good point. What the
hell is USC gonna do if they lose to you?
If if they lose to UCLA. Oh, by the way,

(02:17:02):
Ucla stinks are one and five, but they play hard.
And actually, if you watched the game at the line
of scrimmage against Penn State a couple weeks ago, the
Essay lost twenty seven to eleven, but they competed, so
you cannot That's not a zero. It's not a zero
that USC automatically beats UCLA. We'll go around the room
and see what do you do with Lincoln Riley if

(02:17:23):
that were to happen, You know, don't hit to create
poems that doesn't exist yet and try to solve them,
which we're not trying to do, but we're gonna do
it anyway. If you follow all that, then stay along.
I'm Bernie Fradlewer coming a line from the Las Vegas
Fox Sports Radio TIREC dot Com studios, keep it locked.
Listen to the Bernie Fraddle Show on Fox Sports Radio.
All right, back in the Bernie Fraddle Show, before we
go to the chef's update, final update of the night.

(02:17:46):
Let's go around the room. We gotta do it real quickly.
Do you think UCLA beats usc and if that were
to happen, what happens with Lincoln Riley? Mark Ramsey, you
go first.

Speaker 9 (02:18:01):
My thought is.

Speaker 12 (02:18:04):
Not that you.

Speaker 11 (02:18:05):
I was thinking that because you're not in Los Angeles,
And to quote Robin Williams from the movie, it's not
your fault that you don't know how important it is
for USC U c l A Thanksgiving game.

Speaker 2 (02:18:21):
Well stop stop. I lived in La thirty years. You
know I would to more. I used to go to
the game every year. So just tell us what happens. Mark,
We got to get to the point.

Speaker 11 (02:18:29):
The point is if he wins the game, he gets
to keep his job for a little longer.

Speaker 2 (02:18:33):
If he loses a game, you think he could be fired.

Speaker 11 (02:18:35):
He's gonna be gone quick.

Speaker 2 (02:18:37):
You think, do you think he beats him or not?
Yes or no?

Speaker 12 (02:18:39):
No?

Speaker 2 (02:18:40):
Okay, okay, appreciate your candor. Chef You're next. Does he
does Lincoln rally beat Ucla, and if not, what happens.

Speaker 6 (02:18:47):
I think he does beat Ucla because UCLA is just
not a good team. I know you said that they
were competitive in the trenches, but they're.

Speaker 1 (02:18:54):
One in five and no, I get it.

Speaker 2 (02:18:55):
I get it all right.

Speaker 1 (02:18:57):
And if he does lose to them, though, I don't think.

Speaker 2 (02:19:01):
I don't think they'll fire Lincoln Riley.

Speaker 1 (02:19:02):
But I gotta tell you, see, it's gonna be really
hot though.

Speaker 2 (02:19:05):
If that were to happen, they're not going to a
bowl game.

Speaker 3 (02:19:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:19:08):
Uh, you got the last word on this, Shay. Yeah.

Speaker 10 (02:19:11):
As I said, I mean, he just because of who
he is, because he's getting paid so much. If he
was to lose to UCLA, I don't I think he
would be on a very very hot seat. I don't
think he'd get fired, but I think he'd be on
a very hot seat. Okay here, I don't think he'll lose.

Speaker 2 (02:19:23):
So Mark was pretty bold in his prediction, and I'm
not saying he's wrong. You get a rivalry game like that,
and just about anythink it happened that that's that's gonna
be UCLA super Bowl. Do you expect USC to beat Ucla?

Speaker 9 (02:19:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:19:39):
Fair enough, fair enough, we'll see, we'll see, I will
one of you is gonna be right all right? Coming up,
we got christophets World of Soccer. But first we go
back to our guy the chef for an update.

Speaker 6 (02:19:51):
Yeah, speaking of USC, it was a rough go of it,
a tail of two has really as the Trojans led
it twenty to six at one point. It was actually
at the halftime break where they led that, but Penn
State able to come back. They outscored the Trojans twenty
seven to ten when he kept the second half and
overtime to win it thirty three to thirty. Elsewhere in

(02:20:16):
a college football the game of the day in Eugene
number two Ohio State number three Oregon, and this one
came right down to the final play.

Speaker 7 (02:20:25):
Here we go, six seconds left from the after the
five yard paralley the thirty eight yard line of Oregon.
Howard steps back to Prow, looks right, pump fake now
he'll run and half Roben hooks down at the twenty
eight yard limit.

Speaker 1 (02:20:40):
Of' clock has run out. The clock has run out.

Speaker 6 (02:20:44):
Jerry Allen on the Oregon Sports Network from lear Field
as the Ducks stopping the Buckeyes on the final play
there to come away with the thirty two to thirty
one win. Number one Texas also with an impressive win
as they took care of Oklahoma in quick fashion. Thirty
four Tory and the Sooner shutout for the final three quarters.

(02:21:04):
So we gotta wonder exactly who might be the number
one team in the country when the latest rankings are revealed.
Elsewhere in college football, Number five Georgia over Mississippi State
forty one thirty one Number seven Alabama. They had a
kling for dear life, but they do come away with
the win at home against South Carolina twenty seven to
twenty five. Number eight Tennessee twenty three seventeen winners against

(02:21:27):
Florida in overtime. Number thirteen LSU didn't lead at all
in their game against number nine Ole Miss until the
final play in overtime, but that's what they needed to
get the twenty nine twenty six win. Number ten Clemson
forty nine fourteen winners against wake Forest, Number eleven Notre
Dame blows out Stanford forty nine to seven, and eleventh
ranked Iowa State twenty eight sixteen winners at West Virginia

(02:21:50):
number fourteen BYU demolishes Arizona forty one nineteen, the Cougars
undefeated six and oh and climbing the rankings. Last couple
of games of the e number seventeen Boise State pulls
away from Hawaii twenty eight to seven, and number eighteen
Kansas State and Colorado a wild fourth quarter that the
Wildcats eventually prevail thirty one to twenty eight.

Speaker 2 (02:22:12):
Back to you, Bernie, all right, coming up a little
later in the show. A year ago, the Jets were
quarterbacked by the the inimitable Zach Wills. They're currently quarterbacked
by the inimitable Aaron Rodgers. What has been the difference
between the two? After five weeks in Mike Chokya First

(02:22:33):
Football Futbol talk about that too. It's time for Christophet's
World of Soccer.

Speaker 12 (02:22:39):
The greatest goals, the thrilling finishes, the international drama.

Speaker 1 (02:22:52):
Bick. It's all here in this report from the world
of Soccer.

Speaker 13 (02:22:59):
Bernie down the stretch here and coming up on Decision
Day in Major League Soccer. Now, what is Decision Day?
Decision Day is the final weekend of the MLS regular season,
and it is what has been called that because every
team plays every one else on the same day on Saturday,

(02:23:20):
October nineteenth, so the next time you hear the World
of Soccer decision Day will be upon us.

Speaker 1 (02:23:26):
So it's a time to look ahead to that.

Speaker 13 (02:23:28):
As MLS club's jockey for playoff positions, I'm not usually
a fan of how MLS has structured themselves to be
much more American than other soccer leagues around the world,
but this is one of the benefits is we get
to talk about playoff seating for a lot of teams
trying to come in. And as a reminder, the MLS
format one through seven are automatically seated for the round

(02:23:49):
one best of three series. Well eight and nine in
both the Eastern and Western conferences play in a winner
take all wildcard match before going on to those best
of the raise series. So looking at those tables so
far right now, Toronto FC is kind of hanging around
number ten in the East. However, they've played one more

(02:24:11):
game than a lot of other people, so it is
unlikely to see them make it in, whereas Philadelphia Union
probably has some tiebreaker situations where they could easily if
say DC United or Montreal happens to take a loss,
they could easily leap frog one of those teams directly
into either eight or nine and get from the outside

(02:24:32):
and come on in from the cold. However, for the
top of the a lot of these there's not a
lot of drama left. We know Enter Miami will be
king number one out of the East, and we know
LA Galaxy will be king number one coming out of
the West. LAFC maybe has to hold off the Sounders
in Real Salt Lake coming up behind them, but a

(02:24:52):
lot of the drama has really been resolved. As I said,
there's not a lot of drama between nine and ten
in the West. So really, if you're looking for anything
on decision Day, keep your eye on the Eastern Conference teams,
especially with Philadelphia Union, Atlanta United, Montreal and DC United. Now,
drama there may still be minimal. After all, Philadelphia Union

(02:25:14):
only really has nine wins to its name so far,
nine to ten and fourteen. That is a losing record.
It would be hard press to justify them, and any
kind of same with Atlanta United. It'd be hard pressed
to think of any of these teams as playoff teams,
especially when MLS is getting their wish and you look
to the top and you see the clear differentiation between

(02:25:34):
someone like those teams struggling around five hundred and say
inter Miami at twenty one, eight and four, or the
Columbus Crew or even FC Cincinnati who each have seventeen
wins a piece, and ultimately, this is probably the playoffs
that MLS wants at this point, the surprise of Galaxy,
notwithstanding coming in from the cold after a long long

(02:25:56):
time of seeding Los Angeles to LAFC more successful crosstown rival.
In fact, we might even be getting an l traffic
coo in the playoffs if one and two end up
meeting each other, but also seeing the return of a
powerhouse long term old school club like the Seattle Sounders
or the reigning champions and the Columbus Crew and certainly

(02:26:19):
the up and counters of FC Cincinnati, and lest we
forget most of all in that number one seed into Miami,
and the golden Child himself, Leonel Messi, who MLS has
moved heaven and earth to to try to make sure
that Leonel Messi will be front and center in front
of your televisions, that he is the star that everyone
wants to see. And sure enough, he is trying to

(02:26:41):
get back to health and Inter Miami has come on
just the right time as everything seems to be coming together.
We'll see how much the hurricanes have affected all of this.
I know Messi has been actually training with Argentina rather
than his own club amid the hurricane watches out there.
The story hasn't we've really been written yet on into Miami.

(02:27:03):
I've seen some people asking if this is maybe one
of the greatest MLS club's teams to have been assembled.
I don't really know about that. I've seen some pretty
dominant stuff from Sounders and Galaxy through the years, but
I will say right now they are the prohibitive favorites
for the MLS Cup and the one that everyone's tuning into.
But we shouldn't really discount a lot of the other
teams out there. Columbus Crew can absolutely give them run

(02:27:25):
for the money. So can the young club of FC Cincinnati.
And while this is all going on, another big name
has come over to the Major League Soccer side, and
that is Jurgen Klop. Not quite fully so, what Jurgen
Klop's job is is with actually with Red Bull itself, Yes,
the energy drink company who has many many toes in

(02:27:47):
a lot of different parts of sports across the world,
and especially in soccer. He is taking on the role
of head of Global Soccer for the Red Bull Group,
which includes New York Red Bulls RB, Lapsi RB Salzburg
both Leipsig and Salzburg of course in the German Bundesliga,
and Klapp himself is German, and the Brazilian club Red

(02:28:09):
Bull Bragantino, and there is a minority stake in Leeds United.
For the Red Bull Group as well, Jurgen is taking
on a part in strategic vision quote unquote and mentoring
the group's coaches, as well as helping with worldwide scouting
operations for the Red Bull Group and all of their clubs.

(02:28:29):
I don't think, however, it means he's any closer to
coming back to managing. We have to remember that this
is a man who just over the summer decided he
didn't want to come back and manage Liverpool, and that's
he won a lot of titles with Liverpool, he got
a lot of accolades with Liverpool, but ultimately decided this
wasn't for me, and then he turned down the US
men's national team job, which have ultimately went to Mauricio Poticino,

(02:28:54):
and he's turned away a lot of other people who
come knocking on his door asking him to manage. But
being in the Red Bull group that means ultimately at
some point, speculations and tabloids will continue to swirl around him,
asking him to see whether or not he will come back.
Could he come to MLS, Could he be the manager
for New York Red Bulls. Well, I don't think the
New York Red Bulls are really in a position where

(02:29:15):
I can really fault their manager right now.

Speaker 1 (02:29:19):
Could he be coming home to Germany? Who knows.

Speaker 13 (02:29:21):
But I also think that that's not something you just
kind of shake off overnight, unless a lot of that
stress was being in the Premier League or even being
among the Big Four, but that would include two of
those clubs I mentioned in the Bundesliga, which is part
of yuefa's Big Four. Either way, it's something to keep
an eye on as America waits with baited breath for
decision day and the MLS Cup playoffs to happen after that.

(02:29:44):
And yes, that does as always mean Lionel Messi, we
will see you next time on the World of Soccer, Bernie,
where we will start talking about the MLS Cup playoffs,
and much more from the world of soccer.

Speaker 2 (02:29:57):
All right, ever, so quickly, I want to touch upon
Pete Rose, saying I was telling Shay about there were
plans to honor the late Pete Rose next week and
in Cincinnati at the Great American Ballpark. But according to
a sportswriter by the name of Tim Sullivan, he reported
that the plans have fallen through. They were canceled due
to a dispute among Roses family. We don't have any details.

(02:30:20):
He went on to say, quote services for Pete rosevit
a snag. The Reds have canceled plans to hold a
public service next weekend, apparently because of dispute among his survivors.
In death as in life, the hit King's course has
not run smooth. And we all know, and I love Pete.
It was only around him twice, but look, he's the

(02:30:41):
hit King. But you can't tell the story without the
gambling sandal, the gambling situation, the prison sentence, the divorces,
all the other things go along with it. I don't
know why it was canceled, but it was. Maybe they'll
revisit it at another time. Coming up, the Jets Bills
Monday Night. It's the one game I'm really looking forward
to seeing because of all the storylines surrounding it. And

(02:31:03):
you know what those storylines are. But let's go back
one year. Let's have a little revisionist history. The Jets
had a different quarterback and after five games, well, the
story is eerily similar to what it looks like after
five games in twenty twenty four. Can't make this stuff up, folks.
I'm Bernie Fraddle. We are Company of Line from Las Vegas,
Fox Sports Radio, Tarirat dot Com Studios. Keep it locked

(02:31:25):
right here. You're listening to the Bernie Frattle Show on
Fox Sports Radio. All right, wrap it up on the
Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio Company live from the
Tariret dot Com studios here in Las Vegas. Before go
any further, I want to thank my broadcast team back
in Los Angeles. They've been with me since eleven pm
Pacific time Saturday night, Mark Ramsey, our technical producer, Shay,

(02:31:49):
and of course Kevin Wyrett on the updates. Great job, guys,
kind of like Tinker Evers to Chance, could not do
the show without you and good stuff tonight. What kind
of fool you and what my name? All right? So
a year ago the Jets had a quarterback by the
name of Zach Wilson. That was the mulligan that Robert

(02:32:10):
Sawah got before getting fired, because well, when Rodgers went
down after four plays, what could have been his fault, right,
so he got a reprieve. And then, of course, in
case you've been on Mars or under a rock, you
didn't know that, Robert Salo was relieved of his duties Tuesday. Look,
you've heard me say it before. You can buy dance lessons,
you can't buy rhythm. He was not a head coach.
He'll get plenty of DC opportunities after taking a year off,

(02:32:35):
and we'll go from there. Let me count the ways
it didn't work. It never worked, and it wasn't gonna work,
and they didn't get along. Here's what I find interesting.
Numbers don't lie sometimes. The Jets are currently two and
three after five games. Last year under Zach Wilson, after
five games, yeah, the Jets were two and three. Aaron
Rodgers is completing sixty one percent of its passes. A

(02:32:59):
year ago, Zach Wilson was completing sixty one point one
percent of his passes. Hmmm. Yards per attempt. Aaron Rodgers
is currently at six point h yards per attempt. Last year,

(02:33:19):
at this time, Zach Wilson was six point one yards
per attempt.

Speaker 9 (02:33:26):
Hmmm.

Speaker 2 (02:33:28):
Last year, the Green Bay Packers were averaging a whopping
eighteen point six points per game on offense. This year,
the Green Bay Packers are averaging a whopping eighteen point
six yards. Check that eighteen point six points per game.
What happened, Lucy? Aaron Rodgers has got to come to

(02:33:52):
terms with the fact he's forty. He can't do what
he did before. Like Nolan Ryan once said, I still
throw his heart at forty, just doesn't go as fast.
They don't throw three picks and then miss wide open
Garrett Wilson and wonder what the hell's going on? Robert
Sala's gone. I know they didn't want to fire him
after last season because they didn't think they'd been find
a suitable replacement. And Rogers hadn't started yelling at him yet.

(02:34:14):
He hadn't gone on the trip to Egypt and miss
stuff yet, and they hadn't had the the bro hug
on the sidelines. They went south when they tried to
dap each other, only they didn't. That was ugly. Now
we got cadence complaints and all kinds of stuff. So
Robert sala is no more. In three plus seasons, he
went twenty and thirty six. The Jets never sniffed the
postseason despite having one of the NFL's best defenses over

(02:34:37):
the last two years. And again he got them all
again because Rogers suffered an achilles injury four plays into
the season, leaving sala at the quarterback room of wait
for it, Zach Wilson, Trevor Simeon, and the legendary Tim Boyle. Yes.
His college stats at Yukon one touchdown, thirti, teen interceptions,

(02:35:01):
but he lit it up at Eastern Kentucky after that
eleven touchdowns, thirteen interceptions. You do for twelve touchdowns and
twenty six interceptions? How did this man make it to
the league. That's a show for a different day. The
Jets were a disaster last year in offense, still managed
seven winners. It was believed, just to me, that Hall
of Fame quarterback, that's all we need. Well, not so much,
is it. Well, Robert sala is no more? And then, oh,

(02:35:25):
by the way, you ask Aaron Rodgers if you had
anything to do with it, or maybe not. In so
many words, was the question posed that way? And of
course Rogers gives you the babe in the woods routine. Sure,
I'm not saying it was his decision. I'm not saying
it was his idea. But I don't think he was
in a hurry to savor Robert Sala either. So it

(02:35:45):
because of semantical argument. The Jets haven't made the playoffs
since twenty ten. It's the longest drough out in the NFL.
They haven't had a winning season since twenty fifteen. We
were told all they needed was a quarterback. Oh, by
the way, they're keeping Nathaniel Hackett. Show me where Nathaniel
Hackett has ever had success in this league? Really that
you get, that's measurable. But you've got to appease Aaron Rodgers.

(02:36:06):
Nothing more important is more important than that. It's like
wishing Billy out to the cornfield in the twilight zone.
So I can't wait for Monday night to see what
happens is Aaron Rodgers takes the field at two and
three with a completion percentage worse than Zach Wilson's, with
the yards per tent worths and Zach Wilson's averaging eighteen
points a game, just like Zach Wilson Buffalo and the

(02:36:28):
Jets Monday Night. Yes, I can't wait. Do you blame me?
It's gonna do it for the Bernie Frider Show. I
will be back on these airwaves next Friday night at
eleven pm Pacific. Yes, we will have plenty of high
jinks and we will cover it all. We'll see you

(02:36:48):
then in the meantime. Up next, Mike Carmon in for
Andy Furman

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