Mike Harmon and Jason Smith talk College Football Week 6, NFL Week 6 Preview, and So Much More!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Just hours ago on a Fox Football Saturday, as we
were watching two of the juggernauts of college football take
each other on, one thing became abundantly clear. The Ohio
State money spent on a transfer quarterback that needed to
make the big play lacked.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
The situational awareness to do.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
It's Ohio State falls, Oregon wins. And now we have
to look at all of it and try and figure
out what it means for the wildest, most chaotic year
we have ever seen in this sport. It's a Fox
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tire Bye should be Mike Harmon. Last night we were
watching the Game of the Millennium, the Game of the
Sinne Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Yeah, every week it's you know, just like all the
generational quarterbacks that seem to pop up, you know, every
damn year it's going on, buddy.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Oh man, I'm just sitting here, still on a high.
I'm still sitting here, just juiced. I know we got
London football to get to it. Bears, Why I hate
international football?

Speaker 1 (01:18):
How dare you?

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Well? You know it's I love America. That's where we
are right right.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Well, we got a story later on that might get
your blood boiling then, so that's good. But yeah, Bear's Jaguars.
Come on, Jaguars are a great export.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Oh you know, we want to grow the sport by
sending the Jags over there.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Hey, it still sells out right and clamor for more
so as long as the tickets keep getting sold U
unless the NFL is actually doing the ticket brokering on
the secondary market, which maybe they got a hand in
and get their cut, but you know, they sell out,
they get their money TV that looks good and all
that stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
So man, that's fine. We're gonna take the sell out
if that's the argument, which I'll buy all day long.
Can we stop the nickelback hate? Because last time I checked,
it's tough to get a nickelback ticket.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
You know what, I've been arguing that for a year.
I have a T shirt that I bought that says
Nickelback fan or liar oh man exact that in See,
that's always my thing.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Like everybody sits there and tells me how much they
hate Nickelback and how they're the worst band ever. And
then when they're playing in town, you try and get
a ticket, you can't. It's all sold out. Well that's it.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Forty fifty million albums sold. They're out there somewhere. They
might a lot of them might have found their way
to landfill with all the digital world that we're at now,
but at some point people shelled out their hard earned money,
just like everybody did on a Saturday, Jason, all the
big college games, and certainly for Oregon, hey welcome to
the Big Ten. Chaos ensues. Those final seconds will be

(02:49):
mulled over and dissected every which way till Sunday. But
as you you let it off, like you have the
situational awareness. One side had all of it, the other
had none. It's like the three little pigs.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Well, and you're right, it's gonna be dissected. I understand
it's gonna be dissected. But the thing that really hit
me the most is what can you trust this year
in college football, and my answer to that has repeatedly been,
give me a coach with experience that has a quarterback
with experience. So let's go back in time one week
and one week ago. Right now, people were yelling and

(03:24):
screaming about the fact that Tennessee lost a game where
Nico yama Liava.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
I just wanted to prove it ically done that. Well,
that was just showing off, and now you're just gonna
put your headset down and walk away.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
I get if the rest of the show's yama Liava
is in the situation at the end of the game
where he needs to make a play. He needs to
make a throw to the anzeone to try to give
Tennessee a chance to win, and instead he loses track
of time and he runs out of bounds, thinking probably
that he was going to get out with one second left,
but instead he gets out with zero seconds. Tennessee loses

(03:55):
the game. Now I forgave that in the moment for
all of the work I do at Yahoo Sports covering
college football, in part because Nico is young. So you
look at it and say, okay, you know what this
is what this is the risk you take with the
young quarterback. You got a kid in there that's barely played.
He might make that mistake. Last night for Ohio State,
you had the ball with a minute forty seven seconds left,

(04:16):
you're driving down. You have the opportunity to make the play.
You have the opportunity to come in and win. And
you had two key moments. One Will Howard did not
realize after an offensive pass interference that the clock runs
on the whistle of the ref, so they let about
fifteen seconds just tinkle away for no good reason. And
then at the very end of the game, when they
absolutely needed to play, Will Howard runs up the field

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and he thinks he's gonna give himself up with time
to fall down with one second left. Ohio State doesn't
get that done. They had a timeout in the bag.
The whole reason the last minute forty seven looked that way,
or the last I has forty eight seconds looked that
way is because they had the time out left, so
they were cautiously holding it and they didn't even get
to use it. Those are moments from Will how who's

(05:00):
seen a lot of football, played a lot of football, Harman,
He's got to be better right there.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
Well, And That's the thing, right is you recognize you
got final seconds, But I mean, how many times do
we talk about this, Jason? I mean, if you're doing
the work at Yahoo deep into the night breaking down
college football, how many times do we scratch our heads
and go, what the hell are these coaches doing in
the final two minutes?

Speaker 2 (05:20):
All right?

Speaker 1 (05:20):
We do it on NFL Sundays all the time. It's like,
all right, you went from the two minute warning, I
got one playoff and now there's fifty six seconds remain.
It's like, what are we doing?

Speaker 2 (05:29):
All right?

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Where's the urgency, situational awareness and pushing it? And that's
where we were at with with this situation of all right,
you know you've got that clock's got to be sped
up in your head. Of all right, here's what we
need to do. I've got to make a decision. I
gotta get down and he doesn't. He thinks he does.
But you can't leave it to the to the judges. Right,

(05:52):
It's the old boxing rule. Never let it go to
the judges. Finish your opponent off if they're there, because
it goes to the scorecard. All to take is the
one judge that either didn't like the cut of your jib,
or maybe they had an angle where they thought your
opponent got one better blow in on you and that's
enough to fail you. Here with Howard thought he had

(06:13):
the extra beat on the clock and he didn't. And
all credit to Oregon too. The twelve men on a
feet on the field thing. While it looks dopey in
real time, it was brilliant situational awareness because they don't
get those four seconds back on the clock. Took half
the clock away for five yards, Thank you very much. Okay,

(06:33):
so it gets a potentially a college kicker five yards closer.
Guess what I'll take my chances.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
You're so right about the four seconds. The four seconds
mattered so much more, and it was such a key moment.
You know, if you're Ohio State, you look at it
and say, man, we had our shot, and you think
about the way this game went down. You're Ohio State,
you lost the turnover battle, your quarterback didn't make the
right situational plays in the last minute of the football game,
had eight penalties for seventy yards. Like, if you're Ohio State,

(07:03):
everything kind of went wrong for you and you only
lost by points, So you can turn this you can, like,
you can polish this one.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Now, that's a good spin if you it's still in
l But again the beauty though, Jason, with the twelve
team playoffs, does it really matter on the grand scale
at least right now? No?

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Oh god no. So here's the one way I will
say it does matter, Like because I've been long since
I was asked the question last week, you know, what
is this what does this loss mean for Alabama? Last week?
And I laughed and I said nothing, Like. I mean,
they're they're going to play the rest of their season.
If they win all their games, they're going to go
to the playoffs. The one thing that did hit me,
and this is the first time I've ever thought there

(07:42):
was true meeting that game last night. I think we
can all agree looks wildly different if it's in Columbus, right,
it's in Oregon, And a lot of credit to the
Oregon fan base that went nuts and really created a beautiful.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Environment as they always do.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
Yeah, Like, that's the one place that does matter is
because now we talk a lot about, you know, the
playoff buys and the top four seeds for anyone that
don't know, will get a college football playoff buy and
the top four seeds will be the top four ranked
conference champions. So if you're Oregon, you want those man
just watching kids try and acclimate to the West coast
yesterday was tough, right, So your Oregon, that home field

(08:18):
advantage could be a very big thing. You know. That's
the one thing that I do look at and say, hey,
there's a little bit of meaning. But you're right, in
the grand scheme of things, does this matter No, in
the grand scheme of the things, though, does this continue
to feed the narrative? What did you have? You had
a coach on one side and Ryan Day that obviously
wasn't getting in the head of Will Howard the right
way before that draft that drive, I should say, you

(08:40):
have a coach on the other side and Dan Lanning
that particularly like just absolutely an aggressive on side kick
call in the first half that nobody saw coming, that
was beautifully executed, but then also a smart decision to
take the points at the end of the first half.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
After a great goal line stand by Ohio State.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
So like, you got one coach over there in Dan
Lanning in this problem says a one point when that
really showed everybody, man, this fire, this emotion, but also
this intelligent game management. And you got a guy on
the other side, that Ryan Day, that may have fed
the narrative that man sometimes big games against good teams
isn't his strength.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Well, and I think that's the bigger part. Right The
on the field and where it leads for the season
could be one story, but certainly the narrative of Ryan
Day is well documented. Still with several big games ahead
on their schedule, They've got a battle against Nebraska next week,
then they're on the road at Penn State, and then
later on, you know, at Northwestern mid November at that

(09:35):
small field that might just take him out, I don't know.
And then you've get although Northwestern did put a hurting
on Maryland on Friday night. But you know, anytime I
can insert my alma mater and I got to give
them some love.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
That's allowed. Like, you know, Humble Bragg is a kid
that went to Juilliard. Like, what do I We had
a shirt at one point in my life that's at
Juilliard football still undefeated.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Right, nicely done.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
That's good. It never never played. Yeah, you know, what's
it like to at least be able to insert your
alma mater into all of this. It just feels like
that would be fun.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
It feels pretty good. And right now they're three and three,
one and two in the Big Ten, uh, and we'll
see where they roll from here. They seem to have
a quarterback, so that's fun. Well, well, Northwestern, when given
a chance at least at this point, seems like they'll
finish a game. But we'll get to we'll get to
a good old you here in a minute. But the
final two weeks of the season are really interesting. You
got an Indiana team that has just been outstanding, that's

(10:30):
a game at home, and then finally the old traditional
game on Big Fox against Michigan UH, and that that
one's at a home as well. But as you see,
three huge tests still to come in conference and a
couple of other teams that can jump up and bite
you on any given Sunday. So Ryan Day's got some

(10:50):
work to do in terms of rallies troops to recognize, Hey,
just this loss doesn't tank a season. But certainly, in
the moment, you know, you got to go back mind
your p's and q's about the margins of error.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah, certainly, in the moment, this feels like you had
another kick in the no No Places to Ohio State.
It feels like one of those uplifting moments for Oregon
where they say, hey, we belong and we are going
to be national championship contenders. But let me say this
very clearly, if I had an ap vote today, I
would still have those as the number two and three
teams in the country. Why we'll get into that, because

(11:25):
yesterday there was one result. As much as we just
said that so much of what happens in college football
doesn't matter, there was one result yesterday that had a
resounding impact on the rest of this season and maybe
the next several years in college football. We'll tell you
about it next on Fox Sports Sunday. He's Mike Carman.
I'm Jason Fitz.

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Speaker 2 (11:53):
What can you get for over one hundred million dollars?
Thought that they were getting a coach it would lead
them to national championships. Instead, Lincoln Riley, one of the
biggest names, one of the most respected people, one of
the biggest brands in college football continues to stand on
the sideline while USC season melts away. The question is now,

(12:18):
how do you fix it? And what's it mean for
what is supposed to be one of the juggernaut programs
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and the iHeartRadio app. Harmon. USC loses last night, and
I can hear everybody right now saying, well, you know what,
it's okay. This season's just hasn't broken their way. They've
lost three games. At the very end, it's just been

(13:02):
one of those heartbreaking seasons to which I would say,
you spent the entire summer telling me how your team
bulked up by fourteen hundred pounds. You spent the entire
summer telling us that you were ready for the change
over to the Big ten and that you were ready
to be one of the elite teams. And there's no
shame in losing to the number four team in the

(13:22):
country in Penn State, which they did yesterday. But there
is shame and how they lost, and there's shame on
the fact that this third loss stacks on top of
two other bad losses. Now, it's not just about what
we saw yesterday, Harmon, it's about what we've seen every year,
and USC just has not been good enough.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
Year three of the Lincoln Riley run. Yet a Cotton
Bowl loss back in twenty twenty two where they go
eleven and three, Like, all right, there's the starting point
we're jumping off. Last year disappointment. Couldn't play defense, as
you talk about the physicality of the game, no good,
even with Caleb Williams running around. It's awf well, five,

(14:00):
it's a win in the Holiday Bowl, Yay. And then
you come back this year and it's all right, what's
gonna be different? What's the approach we're going to the
Big Ten. Here's where we we literally and figuratively bulked up,
where you know, like you, we're gonna get lean and mean,
and then we're gonna bulk up. Right, We're getting after
it and we're training, saying our prayers and eating our

(14:22):
vitamins like hulkoke and told us all those years ago,
although he didn't tell us about the other vitamins he
was taking, but pushed out aside for the moment. Is that, yeah, exactly,
is that you were heading into this new era of
football going into the Big Ten, everybody joining up. Now
we're like thirty eight four teams in the conference, and

(14:44):
that you're gonna be ready to compete. And sure you're competitive,
but you're paid ten million dollars a year to not
just be competitive, you're to be elite. Right. You see
all the former USC heroes of the day clamoring and
chiming in. I'd love smugness of quasi USC fan that
we see around and gotten all chesty at halftime yesterday's game,

(15:07):
It's like, come on, game hasn't even started yet, Laken's
in town, all right, let's watch a second half unfold
before we get to chesty and once again in the
margins they lose. At USC's three and seven against top
twenty five teams, Explain that to me, when you're supposed
to be an elite coach, the whole point of being

(15:28):
an elite coach is not that we can boat race people.
Elite coaches, to me are the guys that win in
the margins when everything's not going right, when you need
one possession, one decision that's going to make it work.
And we can cry all we want about a mispass
interference call. There are one hundred of them at game right,
officials go youth soccer all the way through. There's a

(15:50):
million things that folks miss. You gotta play through it.
You got sixty minutes of football and they come up
with another l You know, they did work for their
backers though, because the spread was three and a half
though fits well, which.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
I either look great teams cover. I appreciate all of that. Hey,
the funny thing is, and look, I saw this getting
traction last week and understanding that USC fans don't want
to hear this right now, but after last week, let's
remember that, you know, Lincoln Riley at the time was
twenty two and ten as the USC head coach, and
Clay Helton was twenty three and nine after thirty two games,

(16:27):
and Clay Helton also had you know, some big, some
big wins along the way. So, like USC fans don't
want to hear this comparison, but to me, the reason
there was a bidding war for Lincoln Riley is because
Lincoln Riley was supposed to be the guy that was
going to bring this beautiful offense to southern California. And
this is where it feels kind of nerdy to get
this deep with it, but I want to remind everybody

(16:49):
when you look at what it takes to be a
great college football program consistently, consistently, what do you have
to have. You have to have a name, image, likeness,
budget in this in this modern world. Check we know
that USC has that. You have to have great facilities,
check we know we have that. Yeah, you look at
USC and say, okay, you've got to have a recruiting
area stomping ground that you could own, check we know

(17:09):
they should have that. Then you look at it and say, okay, well,
now you got to have a coach that knows how
to bring in a big name quarterback and the transfer
portal if they have to or find one that they
can bring in through the traditional recruiting method. Check you
have that you need to be able to have a
top five recruiting class whenever you want. Check they have that.
There is no outward failing for USC, which means to me,

(17:29):
when you stack all that together, there is no excuse
for Lincoln Riley having mediocre results. And this is where
he's got to understand that certain programs just judge things differently.
If you lose two or three games a year and
your LSU's coach in the modern college football environment, you're
gonna be okay. I do believe that Brian Kelly's gonna

(17:50):
be okay if they lose three games a year most years,
it's gonna they understand. They don't understand it. I don't
love it. But there are certain programs like Texas, like Alabama,
like Orgia, like USC that if you consistently lose three
games a year, you will consistently lose your job. And
that's that's something that Lincoln Riley doesn't have a lot
of good will with, Like he doesn't have people in

(18:11):
the area clamoring to cover him because he's been such
a great guy since he got there. He doesn't have
a lot of love behind the scenes for people that
cover the program, like he hasn't needed that because he's
just won. Well now he's not winning at the level
that they need him to win. It just it feels
like the wheels can fall off on this USC team.
They gave their biggest punch. They lose. If they lose
five games this year, people are going to start to

(18:33):
yell and scream and they still have losable games left
on the schedule.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Well, and that's the thing, right, it's the old let's
nerd out even more from Spider Man. With great power
comes great responsibility. You got a big paycheck, you have
the bravado. Look I look at all the Heisman winners
that I've created, Look at all of these these heroes
that have gone on to the NFL. And I heard

(18:57):
local radio a number of folks come playing, oh, well,
we don't spend that much, we don't have the nil
It's like, all right, well, that that's a problem in organizationally, right.
It was one of my complaints, again not to make
it about me, but with Northwestern in this new world, Uh,
if you've got a guy that can can make the
grades or whatever you need to do, Like, there's no
reason that Northwestern shouldn't have been a first mover and

(19:19):
had an advantage. Syracuse, Duke, Notre Dame, all these schools
were Maybe you know, you're losing a guy on the
fringe because he wants to go to a place where
it translates to NFL money. You could get money in
his pockets now, right, So you should have had a
first mover advantage with Usc. There's money all over the place,
are you kidding me? Like where in southern California? And

(19:40):
everybody wants to be attached to a winning program. You
show results. The checkbooks are flying out right. You're gonna
get retreads of movies and TV shows that you didn't
like the first time. And they're gonna throw money at
a football team as long as they can hang around. Now,
the old Pete Carroll stuff before he fled like a
rat off a sinking ship. You know, keep some of

(20:03):
the Hollywood guys at Bay Jason right, all these years later,
they're still you know that that tenuous Oh, but you
know he folk complain. It's like, well, these guys get
twenty five to thirty million. It's like, there's no reason
USC shouldn't be able to match that, and in the end,
his job is still to coach him up, and that's
why he's making ten million dollars a year and he's

(20:23):
not winning games that matter. Again, three and seven against
top twenty five squads. You went through the full checklist
of all the things that are there for you at
your feet at USC, and he's not getting it done.
So yeah, the honeymoon is oh, Like, I know everybody's
expecting different results, right, it's the old definition of insanity.
You're running out the same product Los Angeles media. I mean,

(20:46):
you know, if you're winning at all, people are fawning
all over you. Hell, you don't have to win a lot,
and they're still doing it nationally and locally, they'll still
fall all over you because they want to be near
the program. So you know, whenever he bristles out a
question and look, the kid asked a bit of an
awkward question. Both you and I liked this one quote
he had, but the audio is is suspect because he's

(21:09):
staring at staring the kid down that asked the question
about responsibility and margins of error, and he kind of
tries to stare the kid down of I shouldn't call
him a kid, but I'm an old man, so relatively
speaking is he was a representative of the La Times
that asked the question kind of talking about do you
see that it's closer? I mean, he tried to give

(21:31):
him an out, and the guy still got mad at
him for the question.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
The thing of it is, I talked to one high
level college football coach a couple of weeks ago, and
we spent the whole time just as friends connecting, talking
and he kept saying, over and over and over again,
the margins are so thin. And the weirdest part about
college football now is everything, whether it's the recruiting with
the transfer portal, and the margins are so thin. Every

(21:56):
single margin that is thin should be a win for you.
They have, like I said, and you make a great
point about the money they haven't raised, but you make
an even better point about the money that is there
to be raised. Part of being a coach in modern
college football is understanding how to find your buddy garrityes.
And you're just gonna you're gonna have to have a
bunch of buddy guarrities, and then you're gonna have to

(22:16):
manage those buddy guarrities. That's a Friday Night left right
lights reference for any of you that didn't watch the show.
But you're gonna have to find your nil. And then
when you have as many players that play in the
league or played in the league that played at USC,
you're gonna have to bring all of that money and
cachet into what you do. Lincoln Riley at this point
is not getting the result on the field. And it

(22:36):
is stunning right now. And I know there's still plenty
of football left, but it's stunning right now to see
USC near the bottom of the barrel at the Big ten,
with the Big ten standings overall. And we thought UCLA
was gonna be an abject disaster. We didn't think USC
would too, and USC at one and two in conference
is an absolute disaster. All right, it's a Fox Football Sunday.

(22:58):
There's big news in the NFL that has me saying
I told you so. We'll tell you about it and
when we keep going here, But first we got to
get an update from Kevin Wyer on everything that's happening
right now. Tell us what's trending, my friend.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
Yeah, we got a bunch of updates overnight on the
game set to take place later today. We're about three
hours away from kicking off Week six of the NFL
with the Jaguars and Bears in London. Ian Rapaport saying
that Gabe Davis and Evan Ingram listed as questionable but
are likely to play in that London game. As for

(23:32):
Texans running back Joe Mixon, he is expected back in
the lineup today as he's been out the past few
games with a high ankle sprain. As for Panthers wide
receiver Deontay Johnson, he should be able to play today.
He's questionable with an ankle injury. Marlon Humphrey is expected
to play. He was limited this week with an ankle injury.
And the Arizona Cardinals unlikely to have their kicker Matt Prater.

(23:56):
He's questionable the knee injury, and they already elevated practice
squad kicker Chad Ryland to the active roster. In the
college ranks, we had some great games on Saturday. Big
matchup in Eugene number two Ohio state number three Oregon
came down to the final play, but the Ducks stopped

(24:17):
the Buckeys to get the win thirty two to thirty one,
so Oregon now six and zero on the season and
three and oh in their first campaign in the Big Ten,
And with Texas having a big impressive win against Oklahoma
thirty four to three, it'll be interesting to see exactly
who gets that number one spot in this week's rankings.

(24:39):
Number four Penn State coming back from a two touchdown
deficit at the half, outscoring USC twenty seven to ten
in the second half in overtime to beat the Trojans
thirty three to thirty. Elsewhere in the top ten, Number
seven Alabama Escapes against South Carolina had a cling for
dear life, but then you get the win twenty seven
to twenty five. Number eight Tennessee over Florida twenty three

(25:00):
seventeen and number thirteen LC one overtime. Didn't get the
lead until that final play, but it's what they needed
to win twenty nine to twenty six against Ole Miss.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
Back to you guys, all right, it's a Fox Football Sunday.
I'm Fox Sports Radio. He's Mike Harmon. I'm Jason Fitz.
You can follow us on social media at Swollen Dome
for him, at Jason Fitz for me, and you know
I love country music Mike Harmon, Yes, sir, that's part
of my background.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
You and me both. I need more of it.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
There's a there's a good old fashioned country song Randy
Travis made popular carry Underwood, brought it to a new
generation called I Told You So. Found myself hummed that
I'm humming it loud. About eight hours ago when my
buddy Adam Schefter put out on social media this quote.
In a fluid and unpredictable situation, it seems to change weekly,
DeVante Adams could wind up staying with the Las Vegas

(25:50):
Raiders rather than being traded. League sources told ESPN also
tells everybody that the phone quote is it is not quote.
Phone is ringing off the hook interest and that the
fact that the Raiders want a second round pick plus
additional compensation and don't want to pay his salary is
a big part of the reason why DeVante Adams manned
up back with the Raiders, and this is this is rare. Mike,

(26:11):
like I've been wrong. I went on national radio the
day before Khalil Mack was traded, and I said, there
is no way in hell that John Gruden is gonna
trade Khalil Mack. Doesn't make any sense won't happen. The
next day, I wake up hundreds of text messages telling
me what a more on im? So I've been wrong before,
I'm first to admit it. But the minute this trade
and stuff broke, I kept thinking about Khalil Mack, and
I kept thinking about going to Mark Davis, the owner

(26:33):
of the Raiders, and saying the new regime, saying, here's
what we're gonna do. We're gonna trade one of our
best players because he doesn't want to be here, and
we're gonna get some draft equity which we're gonna use
as part of a rebuild. If you're Mark Davis, you
just heard that sales pitch a few years ago and
whatever you got didn't matter. And Khalil Mack has kicked
your butt twice a year for years ever since then. Right,
You just don't want to put yourself in that situation constantly.

(26:56):
So for me, the fact that all the Raiders were
likely to get. People I've talked to around the league
have said that best case scenario is probably a late
third round draft pick, that's kind of a fourth Why
are you trading Davante Adams for that, even if he
doesn't want to be there late third, early fourth. Just
doesn't make sense. I've been saying for weeks. I don't
think Davante Adams is gonna get traded. Everybody's been telling

(27:18):
me I'm crazy. I stand by it, and now we
got Chefter reporting that there's a very significant chance it
could work out that way.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Harmon, I'm brilliant. The rest of the world doesnt know
what they're talking. Nicely done, nicely done. First off, I
liked your You were drifting down to John Facenda Land
like you were going to old NFL films and you were,
you know, gonna give us a little breakdown there. I
dig that I'm probably gonna run around singing Randy Travis
songs for the rest of the day because after four
hours of radio and little sleep and a lot of

(27:46):
a lot of coffee, throat's not so great. Maybe it's
a karaoke night where you start singing Forever and Ever
Amen or something along the way. But I told you so. Wait,
it was a classic, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
Mike, Mike Harmon, big karaoke guys.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
Every once in a while, I'll pop and if the schedule.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Permits, next time I'm in La, can we do like
So we.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Got a couple of places. Yeah, I got I gotta
go to on right by the Sony Studios, which is
a really good little bar.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
I used to, uh, we'll get back to DeVante everybody.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
Oh yeah, I used to uh.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
Oh. And by the way, I should tell you we're
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Speaker 1 (28:22):
Uh really broadcasts professionals nicely.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
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Speaker 1 (28:26):
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getting their power back. Shout out to all the workers
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Speaker 2 (28:44):
This is the moment though, where like I think often
about former athletes later in life finding ways to still
get that their competitive juices going. Realistically, you can go
to the local y and you'll see a bunch of
guys that played you know, D three college basketball that
still think they're trying to play in the NBA, that
are playing aggressively, and I've learned to respect if they're
playing against like common opponents with each other, I've learned

(29:07):
to respect that because you spend your whole life being
competitive and you want to find a way to get
those juices out. When I was touring in music, when
I first started doing karaoke with buddies, I was so higherd.
I was like, I'm a professional musician, I don't do karaoke.
And then I did it once and I was like, man,
it is so much fun to sing something that you
would never otherwise get to sing. Like when in my

(29:29):
life was I ever tour in a country band. When
was I ever going to stand up on stage and
just suddenly take the mic from the lead singer of
the band and sing careless whisper I wasn't right, But
I could get that out of my system and have
a blast doing it at karaoke. And there's just something
that over the years has become really It's like it's
part of my soul. At this point. I love finding

(29:50):
a dirty, stinky like just dive karaoke bar and just
going for it. And you know what, I'm gonna be cliche,
I'm gonna sing Sinatra and nobody's gonna st like. I'm
just I'm all in on this. I was telling Anthony
Gargano yesterday and the fellas like, I want to put
together a charity event called Cherioke, right, and and then
you just have people submit the songs that we have

(30:10):
to sing. You do it on zoom, and you do
it in a place you raise money for a charity,
but you get the chance to just flex that muscle.
I love getting out there and just singing random songs
that nobody thinks you would ever sing it a karaoke.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
I'm in, let's go. I'll donate time, effort, I'll smoke
some meat, whatever we need to do to make that happen.
I'm in, let's go.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
What does Mike Carmen have a go to karaoke?

Speaker 4 (30:33):
No?

Speaker 1 (30:33):
I mean it all depends. I'm really good at helping
people that are struggling because I'm really loud. Ask my
daughter at her soccer games. Everybody else is yelling, but
your voice is the one that we hear and that
the referees here. So it's fun like that. But generally,
if you know by time you hit karaoke at a

(30:55):
late hour, right, Because I don't get off air Monday
through Friday with Jason Smith here on the network until
eleven pm. Throat gets a little bit raspy, right, it's
a little raw from screaming at him about the Mets
and the Jets and whatever else is going on. So
I can go and and maybe give you a good
Steven Tyler, maybe give you a decent axl Rose, who
showed up at the Intuit Dome, the new Clippers place.

(31:17):
Billy Joel was there last night, shows up and they
do Live and Let Die. How about that?

Speaker 2 (31:21):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (31:21):
And then uh, you know, so the guys that screech
my favorite is leading. There was a great rendition I
heard years ago, is that a thing called bass Player
Lives raised all sorts of money and celebration of bass players.
There's how much of a nerd I am. But they
did a celebration of Geezer Butler. So it was all
these bass players one after another. And then they had,

(31:44):
you know, just singers of metal bands coming up one
after another. And Sebastian Bach of skid Row did Heaven
and Hell God, So you know, you do some Sebastian
Bach and maybe you know he was in Jesus Christ superstar,
so I can go. I'm the theater kid that I
never was as well, So there you go.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Oh like, I'm not afraid to bust out some good
old show tunes. Yeah, I love karaoke. Also footloots, easy
go to jam two for me nicely nice down there
you go get people rolling's just got to wear your
tight pants for some of the high notes.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
Well, I'm working on slimming down with the tight pants,
so you know we'll get that.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
Well, hey, good for you.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
Well the road to swol.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Yeah, that's the only thing that deters me a little
bit if we're being honest with karaoke now, is since
I in my fitness journey that started in May, I
gave up alcohol and so I no longer have any
anything drink. Let's not get it in, folks, I'm California
sober like. So I'm still out there having a good time.
But it just that's a little different, you know.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
So there you go. For folks that need to look
that up, go ahead to look that up. But yeah,
the one thing that that does become a bummer sometimes
here in southern California is you do have a bunch
of professionals that come in it's like, all right, that's
that's that's too much. Yeah, so like that full in
That's the one thing I'd say. You're a you're a musician.
You sing quite obviously. And folks at Jason Fitz you

(33:11):
can see some of the work he's been putting up.
He's getting back after it. The muses are speaking. But
it's you know, the folks that are like, all right,
I'm gonna get discovered because I'm right across the street
from the Sony studio. So I give it all.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
That brings me my career, that brings me my juices. Though,
like so like, because I'm not a guy that gets
up on a karaoke station and puts on a show,
I usually like, I'm gonna grab a stool, I'm gonna sit.
I'm gonna be very low key about it. But one thing,
you know, from the beginning, my karaoke experience was always
in Nashville. You know, lived there for over twenty years, sure,
and Nashville is the same everybody thinks that's where they're

(33:44):
gonna get signed and so or you know, frankly, like
I was saying earlier, it's a lot of people that
have been signed and never really made it. That are
just looking to go out and sing and like, you know,
I don't want to have to hire a band and
put a whole thing together, Like I just want to
go out and sing a few songs with my buddies.
Karaoke is a great way to do it. So you know,
you haven't lived though until you've walked in and you're like, Wow,
I'm singing karaoke. And that person has a number one

(34:05):
song on radio right now. That person has put out
three records, and those three people all have records that
are working on right now. Yeah. I love that. Like that,
that that spurs my creative juices. Okay, DeVante Adams, will
he be a raider? Will he be a jet? And frankly,
does it matter for New York anyway? And break it
down when we come back. He's Mike Harmon. I'm Jason Fitzwer,
hanging out with you on Fox Sports Radio on a

(34:26):
Fox Football Sunday.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Welcome back to Fox Football Sunday, Coming at you live
from the tai Iraq dot Com studios. He's Mike Harmon.
I'm Jason fitz Follow us on social media at swollen
dome at Jason fitz Harmon. I need you to be
smart because I'm not. I'm pretty, I'm not smart. I
need you to be smart.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
I'm working to be the latter two. But yeah, I've
got I've got a giant dome. So let's go.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
H This is where I'm coming to the corner and
I'm tagging in my tag team partner, and I'm hoping
you can be my Shawn Michaels because I'm forever going
to be the Marty Jeannetti in this situation. And you know,
I keep hearing all of these Davante Adams needs to
go to the Jets. It works for him, it works
for Aaron Rodgers, and I get why the two human
beings are really close friends and they want to play

(35:18):
together like that makes total sense to me. Did I
miss something where the Jets are doing such a beautiful
job of utilizing the full potential of Garrett Wilson this
year that that offense would suddenly become even more explosive
and that would be the missing piece, because what I've
seen is an offense that frankly looks disjointed, that doesn't
really have much rhythm in anything. It does. It's only

(35:39):
force feeding the ball to Garrett Wilson at a depth
of target that doesn't make a ton of sense to me,
and all of a sudden they're signed. They're sort of
wasting a great wide receiver this year because their offense
has no rhythm. So to me, I don't look at
anything that the Jets are doing and saying, you know what,
they are one wide receiver away from suddenly winning the
Super Bowl, which was supposed to be the metric with

(36:01):
which they were judged this year.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
Yeah, I think there's a couple of things going on
with it.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
You know.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
First off, back to the you know, should the Raiders
get rid of him at all? You know, before we
got down our karaoke jag was the idea of distress properties.
How much is it really versus out why? Outside perception? Certainly,
he did a million interviews. I think Jason and I
were the only people that didn't get to talk to him.
He may be on hold now for all I know

(36:27):
the amount of press that DeVante Adams did over the
last couple of months. But if internally there's not the
distress And by the way, you know, the Mark Davis
fawning all over Shador Sanders thing I think kind of
plays in this as well. They realize they're going to
go find a franchise quarterback going forward by hook or
by crook or in the draft if things really go

(36:50):
south here, and he's made no secret he'd love to
see Shador there, which is why you keep saying, DeVante,
it's got to get better. It's got to get better.
Take your nine hundred and eighty three thousand dollars a
week and we'll keep moving on. We're not forced to
make a deal for the Jets. Does it fix anything?
I guess you'd have another wide receiver. So maybe Garrett
Wilson doesn't draw Christian Gonzales and all of these top

(37:12):
corners each week. But it doesn't matter because unless Devanta
Adams brings an offensive lineman or three with him and
Aaron Rodgers gets that play clock in his head to
slow down, you know, r E la X, it doesn't
matter because Garrett Wilson, I mean the average depth, did
you say it's nothing? Because he's skittish and he's getting
the ball out fast. He can complain about play calling

(37:35):
and whether his guy Hackett couldn't get plays in fast enough.
And maybe Downing will be slightly better at that, But
do you other than the New England game, and let's
face it, New England stinks, newsflash. Has Aaron Rodgers looked
any bit the guy from well, I think it's five
years ago at this point, but has he looked at
any the bit of that guy? No, he hasn't.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
He's so right to what you say. It's been five years.
It's sort of a jab to the heart. And look,
I've watched a lot of Todd Downing Jets fans loudly.
I watched him absolutely just he got promoted with the
Raiders to the offensive coordinator spot after being the quarterback
coach Derek Carr and everybody said, Oh, this is gonna
be perfect. It'll be the continuity the car needs. It's

(38:20):
gonna be great. The next year was some of the
just worst play calling I can remember watching as a
Raiders fan, and I covered part of it with the
Tennessee Titans at the time in Nashville, and I watched
equally dreadful, like the Nathaniel Hackett. How bad he's so bad?
How bad is he? He's so bad that Todd Downing's
getting another shot at play calling? Like I can't be
nice here, Like, this is a guy that I have

(38:42):
no idea. I have no like he's got to have
great friendships and great relationships in the league. I have
no idea how he continues to get opportunities to call play.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
But that's how Hackett got his job. That's how a
bunch of those guys got contracts. And look, Alan Lazard
may may not work in the rest of the NFL,
He's fine as a secondary receiver for Aaron Rodgers. They
have a great connection, but again, timing and getting the
ball out. Look, you got two good running backs in
Breise Hall and Braylan Allen who are basically useless to

(39:10):
you in the current iteration of this offense, right, and
now you're not suddenly going to become a power offensive
line because the one thing Downing did have is he
at least had Derek Henry just give the ball to
twenty two. That guy's not walking through the door. And yes,
obviously I used the hyperbole of five years. I was
having another conversation, and five is a nice number. I know.
Aaron Rodgers won a couple of MVPs, spurred on by

(39:33):
being mad when the Packers made the right move to
draft Jordan Love. But the point is that guy ain't
walking through the door. They need to figure out what
this iteration is.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
Also, I love the concept that Aaron Rodgers was so
mad he didn't know Jordan Love was getting drafted, that
he wanted to get traded out. And now we just
were supposed to believe that he had no idea. The
head coach had fire and he's like, no, that's cool, man,
Like I don't expect to be in on every conversation,
like none of this makes sense, will make sense of
a huge day on a Sunday line up When we
come back on Fox Sports.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
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(40:25):
where you find us in the Twitter verse. As we
roll forward here another hour closer to kickoff at Tottenham Stadium,
there in England, the Bears and the Jaguars. I've got
a bunch of family representing, including one family member wearing
a Johnny Knox jersey. How about that fits?

Speaker 2 (40:46):
So was there old portion of you like, did you
feel at some point like you wanted to go? Because
let me, for anyone that's hearing me for the first time,
let me say loudly, I think the entire International series
is garbage. I understand why they do it. I think
it's disrespectful to the West Coast. I think it's disrespectful
to fan bases that lose a game at home. I hate,

(41:09):
and I mean hate. It's on a field that half
the time isn't ready for football. It's weird elements. Some
of these games have been key to what will eventually
we think be playoff standings, and what do you got
to know? You're playing in a random spot, with a
random field and in front of a random crowd. I
hate all of it. But every time I say that,
I do get blowback from some fans that are like, no,

(41:29):
this is a blast because I get to go to
insert foreign country here to see my favorite team. Was
there a part of you that considered, man, I really
want to go see an international game and watch my
favorite team play in person.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
Yeah, there's no question about it. I certainly had plenty
of friends, family reach out, We've got some other things
in the hopper. And then as you know, over the summer,
you know, my brother and my kids and I we
made the trip to Ireland, England. We did the whole
Taylor Swift thing. So as far as Harmon's for any
kind of interplanetary things, I'm tapped for a while. But

(42:05):
I was really you know, any any of those friends
that wanted to pony up the money, I was ready to.
But I do feel the responsibility here. It's it's an
odd thing. I get it in this day and age,
and and this is where I age myself. You know, Georgy,
you actually show up to work every day. Fit's right,
I mean, and I don't say that disparagingly to any individual,

(42:26):
but in general, we have a position now where it's
the all right, this versus just didn't show up. It's
like anything gonna happen about it. Not not really, We'll
see him on Monday or Tuesday or when whenever they're back.
I mean, that's that's what it is. My daughter just
started a job. She's she's doing some work part time,
and she has the same thing. And that's when you

(42:48):
start expanding beyond what we do. I mean, you know,
someone else will grabbed the microphone full throated at every opportunity.
But I still feel the responsibility to be here, right
if there's a big moment, a big game, and certainly
during football season, right you're doing what six or seven
days a week? I do six six days a week.
Saturday is kind of an off day. But you're still

(43:08):
making a ton of notes. You're still watching games differently
than you would if you were just a fan, right,
you still got a notebook in front of you whatever.
And not to say, hey, it's a hard job, but
I feel a responsibility to when we crack these airwaves
to have actually watched the games, not just a highlight
package or to read somebody's synopsis. So as much as
I'd love to tap out and go to the International series,

(43:31):
because I see it a little differently, and except the
I would agree with the field part of it, because
it's a soccer pitch and it'll always be a soccer pitch,
and it's made differently, and it's cultivated differently, and We've
seen plenty of injuries and issues. Of course, it's not
much better than what Soldier Field is for the Bears
might actually be an upgrade.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
You're bylight, like, absolutely, that's hysterical. Soldier Field is is
a beast of its own I do I hear you.
Maybe I'm coming around on the experience portion of it.
But also I think one thing that we have to
constantly remember is that the experience is for you know,
sixty thousand people. The television experience is for millions of people.

(44:16):
And man, I just West Coast Pst Coast for watching sports.
I live on the East coast now, so I have
this great advantage. But one thing that I absolutely hate
frankly about you know, Sundays, is that I wake up,
you know, and the first games kick off at one
of the afternoon. So there's a part of me that
feels like I have an obligation to do something productive.
In Nashville, which is Central time, the games kick at noon.

(44:37):
That's a little better. Like by the time you get
up and get your morning rolling, like, there's not really
time to do anything.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
Yeah maybe maybe you go to church. Yeah, maybe maybe
you go for a walk. You get your gym, work in,
you walk your dog. Maybe you hit the snooze button
a couple of times realizing that work week's coming. But yeah,
it's it's it's tough, like I mean what we do,
Like I don't get to go to games as much
as i'd like. Like that's ultimately what got me into this, Jason.
I mean, right, my love of games, live theater, both

(45:06):
live theater and the pageantry of these games. Right that
you can't just say I'm taking a Wednesday off because
you know my favorite teams in town. It's like, no,
there's a lot going on, right, a lot of moving parks.
So yeah, it's the International is interesting. And I make
fun of Soldier Field only because it's owned by the
park district, right, not the Bears. So you can have

(45:26):
a tractor pull on Thursday, high school football game on Friday,
Pearl Jam can come play on Saturday, although they choose
Wrigley Field most of the time, but point being, band
could play their Saturday night and then the Bears will
be ready on Sunday. What the field level is and
what it's looking like, no idea like ground turkey or something,

(45:46):
but it's uh, yeah, it's it's it's a curiosity. But yeah,
the international thing and the wake up times, I've just
gotten used to the West coast thing. So starting at
six thirty, Hell man, I'm up and I'm on air anyway,
so let's let's get it on.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
That's fair, That is fair. I just feel like this
moment of I don't know, I don't like my football
with bacon and eggs, you know, like.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
Well, I mean, kegs and eggs always a big thing.
I mean college football tailgating always a thing. I mean,
look at what we get for big. We call it
big noon kickoff on a Sunday show. But you know
what that does when you muddle it together. It sounds like,
you know, you're having a party on a Saturday night.
You get my drift. But you see the crowds that
those morning morning pregame shows get. I mean folks, folks

(46:32):
are lubricating, ready to go. And I have no doubt
that many of my friends and family that did make
the trip to London are very much so right now.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
As they should be. They're also going to see a
Bears offense that is started to click. And I do
think it's interesting, and you know, frankly, we have such
high expectations for rookie quarterbacks. The minute they step on
the field, there is a moment where I look at
and say, hey, it's okay that it takes a second
for all these things to come together. If I had
one great curiosity about the Bears coming in, it was

(47:07):
whether or not they have the right coaching staff to
really get the most And by that I mean I
don't necessarily love Waldron as the hired offensive coordinator. I
didn't love keeping ebra Flus as sort of a dead
man walking coach. I was a big fan of just
if you're going to rip the whole thing apart when
you draft, rip it apart, because what you don't want
is rip it apart a year or to into Caleb.

(47:27):
I truly believe that Caleb Williams is going to be great.
And I know that we are infatuated with Jayden and
Daniels rightfully so, we're infatuated with CJ. Stroud rightfully so.
But we're also talking about a year where at this
point now we will have six rookie quarterbacks that started games.
I think it's fair to look at it and say
not all six are going to have the same success
right out of the gates the same way. The fact

(47:50):
that it is starting to click a little bit more
for Caleb makes sense. I think that's a good thing.
And by the way, I still think that he's going
to be a superstar in this league for a long time.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
Yeah, convincing DeAndre Swift to run north south instead of
thinking these Barry Sanders is a really good thing because
your offensive line still has issues. But in the end,
you know, if you're going to dance around, what's a
bad offensive line going to expose you like, you're not
gonna have plays just run behind and find your gap

(48:20):
that way, right Roshawn Johnson, Herbert when he's been used whatever.
But DeAndre Swift the last couple of weeks, Yeah, they
had to come to Jesus meeting with Waldron. And for
the Bears, you know, they're in that rare space where
there's actually expectations coming into the year, right because they
spent on all of the weaponry, they draft a dun say,
they do all these things that you're thinking, all right, well,

(48:43):
all the pieces are in place. To use the old
Dave wanstat quote from many years ago, folks could go
back and look at that season. The pieces were not
in place, but the offensive line still is an issue.
And Eberflus to me, you run parallels with Robert Salah.
Now obviously quarterbacks on the different ends of the spectrum,
no question about it. But suspect play caller, let's call it,

(49:07):
well what it is with Waldron, I mean Jackson Smith
the Jigma had the uh, the damning thing when told
that he was going to Chicago and he just go,
good luck with that, and he's like, wait, was that live?
Like yeah, was live? You know that kind of thing.
So after whatever the meeting was, they simplified things. They
started running the ball differently, play calling was more efficient.

(49:31):
Would I have brought back Eberflus, Well, probably not. But
it's also the Bears, like Mark and I all right,
Mark Ramsey are technical producer, follows the Bears, the lifelong
fan whatever diseased like me fits and it's the Bears
aren't leaving money on the table. You got a contract,
you're gonna work every last day. Should you be on

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a sideline doing it?

Speaker 2 (49:54):
No? Maybe not?

Speaker 1 (49:55):
And off the cases no, But that's one thing all
the Chicago teams have in common. They were going to
bleed you to your contracts done even if it's to
the detriment of the development of your squad, and your
point about the rookie quarterbacks is absolutely one hundred percent.
Everybody doing the revisionist history Look at Chicago, they're still
singed from twenty seventeen because they do the faulty comparison

(50:18):
of what Mitch Trubisky became versus what Patrick Mahomes is,
which has always been just a faulty, lazy, terrible thing
for anybody on our network and anywhere else that's used it.
It's lazy and it's false because the guy that they
quote should have drafted was Deshaun Watson. How the hell's
that working out for anybody?

Speaker 2 (50:39):
Well, and my the other pylon I would add to
that quarterback Come yeah, let's go Like if we're going
to sit here and talk about, well they should have
drafted Mahomes, cool, Did you have Alex Smith in that
locker room to teach Mahomes how to be a proche
hundred percent? In multiple interviews? Did you have Andy Reid
to develop them? Did you have a way to sit
him for a year like it's the coach, there's still

(50:59):
the bear, it's all of these things together. I just
I think the concept that every NFL team has if
we should have taken My homes presumes that you would
have had somebody knew what to do with him. And
to me, I just think that that's probably under selling
the impact that the chiefs, organizational structure, and Andy Reid
had at My Homes. Nobody wants to hear the context

(51:19):
and nuance, but if we want to have an honest
conversation about it, the context and nuance has to be part.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
No, that's just it, and Washington like, even if we
take it to this year, Jayden Daniels coming into the year,
I think all of us that have watched the NFL
and watched these players, you looked at their offense and
say this could be interesting. Now, Brian Robinson's not going
to play today, but you brought in Austin Eckler, guy
who's going to catch seventy balls when he's healthy. Plus
you've got a couple of wide receivers Terry mclaurin's as

(51:46):
good as anybody in the game, right, and Daniels making
plays with his legs. Look, and I think it would
be this efficient, this brilliantly, this quickly. No, I mean
Kingsbury's They're pulling all the strings and the offense has
clicked on so many levels. I can't wait to watch
this game against Baltimore. You want to talk about great theater.
Friends down in the Beltway, they're having a blast with

(52:08):
this one all week long. But your point about organizational
structure and coaching is one hundred percent right, right? How
many teams do we actually hold up as great organizations? Five?
Seven out of thirty two? I mean, just go down
the line, right, the Chiefs the lead the list will
take San Francisco still trying to get over. Baltimore consistently wins.

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You may not like the way they do it, but
the Steelers are at least in the conversation each week
and each year. It's not pretty, and the playoff results
aren't there for Tomlin, But would you rather be that
or a team that's two and fifteen and rolling the
dice on the next guy? Riddle me that, I mean,
I don't The answer is I don't know. Because I'm

(52:54):
a Bears fan. I don't know that. Jason.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
I also like, it's amazing what difference having a quarterback
everybody loves makes. And just think about the fact that
now all we talk about with Washington is football. Like
we don't talk about any chaos, we don't talk about
any problems, we don't talk about anything other than football
because Jayden is so good that, like a few months ago,

(53:19):
it was why would anybody even want the commander's coaching job?
And then all of a sudden, Dan Quinn takes it.
They draft Jadan Daniels. Now it feels like that organization's
turned it around. A year and a half ago. Why
would anybody ever take the Texans job ever again, especially
a minority coach? And what do they get? They got
a coach that absolutely loves the team. They hit a
home run in the draft with the quarterback that they drafted,
and now we talk about the Texans wildly different. For

(53:41):
every fan that sits there and says we will never
be good until our favorite are the owner of our
favorite team sells, hey, that's not real, but be just
look at it. It's not about changing that. I know
Washington change their ownership. But the reason we talk differently
about them is because they got a quarterback. That's what
it's really about. It's not about who owns a team,
it's not about who runs the team. It's not about

(54:01):
any of that. It's like, can you find your quarterback?
I still believe that the Bears have their quarterback obviously,
So when this eber flu Swaldron thing dies, and I
think it will, there's still reason for hope because you've
got Caleb Williams and that's where hope really comes from.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
No, it's it, and he's shown great strides and the
play calling has been more efficient. Is timing with DJ
Moore is better? I think having Keenan Allen just on
the field is a difference maker. And he's a guy
that's going to pick up a bunch of first downs
where he's not explosive, and he's gonna miss games due
to injury already has right, we set the over under

(54:35):
on the show kind of half tongue in cheek, having
watched him here in Los Angeles for years. You know
stats for days when he plays, but you always had
to say the dot dot dot when he plays. You know,
we set the games at eight and a half, nine
and a half, right, not expecting him, but you're just
hoping that he's there come December. If in fact, you're
playing meaningful football and you've got a defense that's good enough,

(54:57):
they'll miss Brisker today with the concussion protocol. But you
got a Jacksonville team that you should be able to
go in and get a w. But it's one of
the more interesting games on the day.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Yeah, a Jacksonville team did. By the way, I mean,
Doug Peterson's got to be the next to go, right,
like this thing.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
He's the leader all the clubhouse. He's plus one twenty five.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
For all of the conversation about what's wrong with the
Bears offense that I've had, and like, what's wrong with
Kayleb Williams. So far after today, the Bears should be
four and two and the Jags are likely to be
one and five. Like, that's just when you start saying
those numbers, those are numbers that you can't just ignore.
So kudos to the Bears for finding a way to

(55:40):
win through this, but also, just my god, this thing
is an abject disaster for the jackson.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
Yeah, it's really really quick With the Jaguars, It's interesting,
right because you go back to that game against Miami
that they lost in ot if Etn doesn't fumble that
ball off his knee, yep, right, the next play is
Tyreek Hill. By the way, the only time we've said
Tyreek Hill's name in a highlight other than highlighting catches
he's not making or plays that his quarterbacks can't make

(56:05):
over the course of the year. So just to flat.
And then they lost the next week, a narrow loss.
I think the first two losses were by a total
of eight points. And this goes back to some of
the Lincoln Riley thing, Like Trevor Lawrence has not been good,
Like even two weeks ago that lost to the Texans.
They should have won that game going away. He missed
so many throws down field, and he's got a good

(56:26):
one in Brian Thomas Junior. That kid's going to be
a star, no question about it. But you know, between
ETN Tank Bigsby, they're gonna need to lean on them
a bit more because Lawrence is just scattershot, Like his
efficiency completion percentage is just in the tank. So they've
got to figure out how to bolster that. But yeah,
Doug Peterson favorite in the clubhouse, and like I said,

(56:48):
with Lincoln Riley, the margins and the coaching.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
Yeah, and I don't believe in any of that like it.
This is also they already paid the quickly. Just remember it.
They pay Trevor Lawrence, who now will have been through
two coaches, he'll be on to his third. I know
the first one was a joke, but man, this is it.
You get it right or you're gonna start this career
path of just you're gonna have to separate from Trevor
Lawrence and somebody else is gonna have to figure out
if they can find the best out of it.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
Urban Meyer. Doesn't that seem like so long ago?

Speaker 2 (57:16):
It really does.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
Yeah, how time flies. He's Jason Fitz. I'm Mike Garman.
We're here at the entire rack dot com Fox Sports
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deeper into the Sunday slate. We'll talk a little more
about the Beltway. But let's go to Pittsburgh where the

(57:37):
quarterback quote unquote controversy continues. At Jason Fitz on Twitter
find me at Swollen Home. This is Fox Football Sunday. Hey,
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He's Jason Fitz, I'm Mike Carmen. Thanks for being with
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a lot of entertainment and information opportunities and options out

(57:59):
there were glad you took a few minutes to stop
on by what we're slinging. I've got caffeinated water, which
up until about a month ago, I never knew was
a thing, Which is why I sound so fresh and
excited so early in the morning on the West Coast.
That and we're talking to sports. We're talking football. We
get a chance to hang out together Jason every once
in a while, you know, and to chop up all

(58:22):
things college and pro football. It's a beautiful thing. Our
team assembled thanks to Kevin and to Shay and to Mark.

Speaker 5 (58:29):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
You know, we were talking about fitness and everything a
little bit before Jason, and I gotta admit I screwed
up and I said, hey, Shay, take take my card,
go get donuts. Jay, What do you think? What did
you pick?

Speaker 4 (58:41):
How long were the long chocolate one with the chocolate
filled interior?

Speaker 1 (58:45):
Wow?

Speaker 4 (58:45):
He got the extra extra chocolate, the extra foul one.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
It's four point thirty in the morning.

Speaker 4 (58:51):
Where did you get signed for a donut?

Speaker 2 (58:54):
Where did you get them from?

Speaker 1 (58:55):
Right down the street, like a donut.

Speaker 4 (58:57):
Shot donut emporia, the emporium. Yeah, wow, I'm.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
Just impressed that, Like there was somebody out there ready,
I mean just ready to get the four thirty am
donut thing going like.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
A family business, baby, let's go. No corporate entities, uh
putting schedules on. They're just trying to sling for a
dollar America.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
It just makes me absolutely those are the things that
I do love about La. For example, like you just look,
there's nowhere I'm gonna go in West Hartford, Connecticut that's
gonna have a donut shot open the shop open at
four thirty in the morning. This is staggering to me.
I love this. I love the like the given dard
to go out there and get it. Shaye, did you

(59:41):
walk to get the donut? Or did you send somebody
to get the donut? You elitist?

Speaker 4 (59:45):
It was a quick drive, five minute drive.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
Quick drive. We dispatched Shaye in a moment and literally
he missed a couple of reads and I think a
big lou ad. Other than that, I think he was good.
Scott called to but no, it's all right, it's all
good things.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
I mean, I'm just I kind of would have wanted
you to walk there, like could you have you know,
just walk the donut on and off ten thousand steps baby.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
Oh, he's going to get him in today. He's debating
going to Dodger Stadium for game one of the NLCS
as the.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
Debaby doing to the NLCS because he's been up all night.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
Okay, you should see him. He is a young man.

Speaker 4 (01:00:22):
That expensive. It's expensive.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
That's a big commitment. I mean, to get in is
well over two hundred bucks at this point. Okay, do
we not know people? Is there not something that you think?
Do you think these things are fluid? Buddy?

Speaker 4 (01:00:37):
I wish you guys know.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
It's it's a it's a question of where you rate.
Right made Mark signaling like he knows people.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
But I love the idea of Mark just quietly goes
that game, not telling anybody and then just like flashing
out to Shad's like I had a great time all.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
Of a sudden, beer and smile and.

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
Right now.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
No, it's all just a question of Look, you got
corporate partners you need to take care of. You got
your hierarchy of hosts, production, other members of the iHeart
community Fox Sports Radio. I don't know that you do
a lot of asking, Jason. I mean maybe maybe in
your uh man. I worked for Yahoo many many years

(01:01:21):
ago and back in the day where the internet money
was flowing to where Hey, we have a box would
you like the seats?

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
Sure? Oh, I never get I never even.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
No, no, but I mean this is twenty five years
ago and it was usually in Oakland. You want to
go to the Oakland Colleague the County Coliseum. Yes, please,
let's go see the White Sox lose again.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
I never made the box list in these In these words,
I'm just imagining. We're saying, do thing I tell you
about being tired shape. This is the one thing I would.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
Say, Oh, hit that hit that violin.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
Twenty five years from now, you won't remember that you
were tired. You'll remember that you went to the NLCS.
That's the only look at that. The only thing that
I would say.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
Oh, that's some wisdom, previdence, wisdom. Hey, do you want
the rest of my caffeine? Water? Seventy milligrams of caffeine.
Manute cup of coffee has ninety five. So you know,
Bark's holding up a cup of coffee and handing it
over to Shay. Yeah, there you go behind the scenes
at Fox Sports Radio. Hey, we'll talk Pittsburgh quarterbacking in

(01:02:21):
a moment. As we continue here at Fox Football Sunday,
a little bit of you know, grab at Sunday morning,
I would say it, but why don't we go over
to Kevin Wire get an update what's trending in our
sporting universe, including all those injury updates which upkay? Yeah,
what about two hours away from the first game of
the day in the NFL out in London Jaguars and Bears.

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And speaking of these international games, Roger Goodell actually spoke
about them on Saturday, and he said that if the
league expands the regular season to eighteen games, that there's
a possibility that they could stage up to sixteen international games.
And he also said that a Super Bowl overseas is

(01:03:03):
a possibility. So something to keep an eye on as
they continue to make that investment into London, Germany, Brazil,
several places outside of the United States. That's for the
injury news. He and Rappaport with quite a few updates overnight.
As the bucksneering full strength with safety's Antwoine Winfield and
Jordan Whyhead, they are likely to play. Offensive tackle Luca

(01:03:28):
Godi and defensive tackle Elijah Cantsey are both expected to play.
Raiders running back is a mere White is dealing with
a groin injury, but he is considered a long shot
to play despite practicing and Friday, and they did a
downgrade to Kobe Myers to doubtful. Last our Colts quarterback
Anthony Richardson he has listened as questionable with his oblake,

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but he did have a good week of practice and
he could play if he has a good pre game workout.
And for the first game of the day, the Jaguars
and Bears, Rappaport saying that Gaye Davis and Evan Ingram
are expected to play. Texans running back Joe Mixon expected
to be back after missing the last few games with
a high ankle sprain. Deyonce Johnson expected to be out

(01:04:12):
there for the Panthers with his ankle injury. Marlon Humphrey
supposed to play for the Ravens today despite being limited
with an ankle injury. But the Cardinals is going to
be without their kicker, Matt Pray. Ridley's very likely to
be without him. They already did elevate practice squad kicker
Chad Ryland to the active roster.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
And just a.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
Couple of notes in college football some big matchups. Number
three Oregon Number two Ohio State. The Ducks hold off
the Buck guys to win at thirty two to thirty one.
Number one Texas rolls over Oklahoma thirty four to three,
and Number four Penn State, erasing a two touchdown halftime deficit,
outscores USC in the second half in overtime twenty seven

(01:04:52):
to ten to beat the Trojans thirty three to thirty.
Back to you guys, thanks so much, Kevin. Follow him
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the digital world. The Pittsburgh Steelers against your Las Vegas Raiders.

(01:05:35):
A little later, Jason thirty seven is the total thirty
seven Pittsburgh three point favorites and the on again, off
again discussion about the quarterbacking position. Looks like Justin Fields
gets one last starts. We talked offensive coordinators and coaching
and everything. Arthur Smith still trying to bring out the best,
and there's been some parts to justin Fields. For me,

(01:05:58):
it's run game first, right, It's always run first, play
defense in Pittsburgh. Roethlisberger the outlier in terms of quarterback play,
but hoping to unlock some things with fields and his
elusiveness and running ability. But they haven't had both their
backs today. They will warn back with nausey Harris, but

(01:06:19):
you've got the whole. George Pickens can undrum find ten
thousand for his messaging on his face in this last game,
and they've actually had him on a bit of a
load management slash pitch count. And if you saw the
super cut, I watched it several times. Effort is a
lowercase E. If it's there at all, I love.

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
The way lowercase it's not there, you know. And it's
interesting because we talk about everything right now with the
Steelers like it's a disaster, because it feels like there's
a lot there that just hasn't clicked yet. But then
we are reminded, as we are every single year, that
no matter how much things feel dysfunctional for Pittsburgh, I mean,

(01:07:06):
they're three and two and they should win this game today,
they should be four and two, and so you could
look at it and say, hey, they've managed the Justin
Fields era so far, and he's played well enough at times. Frankly,
I would play I would play Justin Fields today and
I'll tell you why, because I don't want to take
on while they are now just a one headed monster

(01:07:27):
with Max Crosby, nobody else on that defensive line for
the Raiders is remotely healthy. It was already not a
particularly healthy group, and they have been decimated by injuries,
the latest of which might be one of the stupid
stupidest injuries I've seen in modern NFL. Christian Wilkins injures
his Foot's put on ir He's going to miss some time.
And how was he injured because another player was climbing

(01:07:49):
up his back to celebrate a sack. So there you go.
Now you lost one hundred million dollar man with the
foot injury because defensive tackle decided he wanted a piggyback
bride to celebrate the sack in the middle of a game.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
Shades gramatica brother jumping up and down after a field
goal and tearing his acl The.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
First thing I thought when Adam Butler climbed up his backs, like, man,
that's just an awkward way to fall. Somebody's gonna get
hurt that way. Christian Milkins never came back in the game,
and now he's on ir So you just but you
look at this defensive line and say, well, it's a
one headed monster. But that one head is Max Crosby,
and Max is gonna abuse quarterbacks, that's what he does.
I think you like the mobility, frankly of Justin Field's

(01:08:27):
being able to run around, and also I think he's
gonna have Justin fields if he plays in this game.
I would hammer the quarterback rushing over because you're going
to have a bunch of players on the back end
of the defense that aren't really capable of stopping a
running quarterback. In my mind, so I would play Justin Fields.
But I think no matter who they play, they still
win this football game. And well, go ahead, sorry, well no,

(01:08:48):
I was going to say. The only thing is Hammer
the under We talked about how the point total is
so small. That's fine. I don't think either of these
offenses can still score, and I think both of these
defenses win the day.

Speaker 1 (01:08:59):
Yeah, kickers first and foremost, right as we as we
roll forward in this one, I'm trying to find a
rushing prop for Justin Fields as we speak. But we
look at that game on the other side, you know,
the Raiders, you talk about the defensive ones, Aidan O'Connell
back under center, Gardner Minshumania has been destructed, and you

(01:09:21):
know I would be remiss. It was twenty seven years ago.
Today the USA Network reminds me that Degeneration X was
officially formed. That's right, that's right, Triple H and Sean,
you reference me as you know, a Shawn Michael's like candidate.
People can go find the glitter coats and other things.
I've warned the concerts. I have a little bit of
theatricality to me at times. So, yeah, Degeneration X all

(01:09:45):
those years ago. But aide O'Connell gets the helm, but no,
Jacoby Myers right, he's doubtful, which means he implying DeVante
Adams ain't walking through that door and you're missing one
of your tight ends. Good thoughts with mayor as he
he goes to IR and hopefully he's okay. Family and
all that stuff. Not a lot of details out of there,

(01:10:06):
but they didn't find a good one in brock Bowers.
And I gotta imagine that you see Aidan O'Connell calling
hot route and looking for him every turn, And.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
Frankly, I think Aidan O'Connell should start because Gardner Minshu
has been reckless with the football. That being said, Aidan
O'Connell's gonna get murdered today all over the offensive life
of the Raidersson might be one of the worst Raiders
offensive lines I've ever seen this year, that's how poorly
they're playing. I mean, we all know how bad the

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Raiders are year in and year out. This offensive line
is just dreadful. They are awful, and so it hasn't
come together. They haven't been able to gel. They've had
little spurts, little moments missed me with any of the
PFF numbers on offensive line, And it doesn't matter what's
the damn games and he's just this is this is
a total disaster up front, and Aiden doesn't have the

(01:10:55):
mobility that Gardner has. So while Gardner has been reckless
with the football and doesn't deserve to start, Ayden basically
is being put back there like a sacrificial lamb. It's like, great,
that's gonna go and go really well for him. I
hope you hear the sarcasm in my voice. I think
Gayden could He could end up on the ground seven
or eight times in this game and it wouldn't surprise me. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
I just sent a bucket to you telepathically to clean
up all the sarcasm as it's going through. As it
drips down, we'll just collect it and see how much
we We finished the show with We're in the tirerac
dot Com, Fox Sports Radio Studios. There you go. The
over under on rushing yards. I was able to find
it thirty nine and a half for Justin Fields. I

(01:11:39):
concur if nothing else, he'll be running screaming like he's
in a horror movie as he's being chased by Max Crosby.
And now that I put that image in your mind,
we'll talk about a couple of more games as we
roll through, some big over under totals, some fantasy plays,
and maybe just some excitement as fans as we roll on.
It's Fox Football Sunday. He's Jason Fitz and I'm Mike Harmon.

(01:12:00):
Thanks for being with us on Fox Sports Radio. Hey,
welcome back, Hen, It's Fox Football Sunday. Here Fox Sports Radio.
He's Jason Fitz. I'm Mike Carbon, Thanks for hanging out
with us. Having a blast this morning. My the time
goes so fast as we get ready for kickoff. Yeah,
I get those fantasy lineups set. If you do have questions, Jason,

(01:12:20):
I'll tackle some of them over the next two hours
on air, but certainly after the show at Swollen Dome
is where you can find me because I'll be well
my rapt attention watching the Bears and Jaguars from Tottenham
Stadium as we roll through. It's weird to have expectations
for a team because I just went through one hundred

(01:12:40):
and twenty one lost season with my White Sox, Jason,
So you know, when the old Gary Barnett at Northwestern
Line was expect victory for the White Sox, it became
a We're gonna play a game and I'm gonna enjoy
all one hundred and sixty two of them wherever they fall.
And now we move on the worst of it, though,
is my Weekday partners, well, their teams are playing in

(01:13:03):
the NLCS today. We talked about it with Shay and
whether he should go or not. My executive producer, Dodger fan,
my Tag team partner Jason Smith. I don't know if
anybody's heard kind of a big Mets fan. So so
folks should all, just as the Simpsons taught us all
those years ago, pray for Mojo. The NFL slate for

(01:13:25):
Week six has an interesting disparity dichotomy trench between some
of the haves and have nots in terms of games
that we really are eagerly anticipating and a few that
you might want to watch a streak of paint dry
the aforementioned Steelers Raiders game. We have personal interests. I've

(01:13:45):
got a lot of friends in Pittsburgh. We talked to
team a bunch you with the Raiders, and then you
got the Chargers. Same thing. Excitement, Hey, Denver bo Nix
and Sean Payton all thirty five and a half is
the total on that one Yay forty one Monday Night
Football Buffalo and the Jets. And then you've got a

(01:14:05):
couple that are up in the high I mean the Houston,
New England game thirty seven and a half. Welcome to
starting quarterback world, Drake May you are the sacrificial lamb
this week in Week six, although Houston hasn't been able
to surmount consistent pressure, so he might actually be okay
in this one. No Ramandre Stevenson for those checking at home.
But one of the games of the day in the

(01:14:26):
What Are You is Arizona and green Bay forty seven
and a half to total, green Bay a five and
a half point favorite. Jordan Love and his band of
Merriman Kyler Murray coming off a huge win over the
forty nine ers, And at this point this is a
for me, get the popcorn ready, because I don't know
what I'm going to see from either of these squads.

Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
Is it okay for us to finally start admitting out
loud that Jordan Love is just sort of inconsistent. That's
my question. Is there like they're really good throws and
they're really bad throws. We saw some of that last year,
but he got hot the last eight games of the
season and everybody he said, oh well, let's forgive the
early portion of the season he was knocking off the rust.
He hasn't played for a while, and I'm thinking that
feels like oversimplification a little bit to me. But okay,

(01:15:09):
and what do we see the first game of this year.
He didn't play very well and everybody says, wow, it's
just the first game of the year. Then he misses
a couple of games to injury, and he comes back, well,
he's knocking off the rust. Like, my god, people are
hurting their hamstrings bending over to make excuses for the
inconsistencies of Jordan Love. Like, I'm not saying he's bad.
I just think that we anointed him after a very
small sample size, and he might turn out to be

(01:15:31):
really good. He might also turn out to be kind
of good and bad. And we've seen that within games themselves,
like they're just their throws. Sometimes you look at it
and say, what the heck is he even aiming? Like
what is he thinking on that throw? And I just think,
for the level of praise that we give Jordan Love,
that level of inconsistency doesn't make a ton of sense.

Speaker 1 (01:15:49):
Yeah, I look at you know, Greg, I always defended
the Packers drafting him, right the Aaron Rodgers waffling on
on retirement and all of that stuff. But to your point, Yeah,
and it's a small sample size and we're so thirsty,
and I think he made this point last hour to
encapsulate it for the folks. They'll get it in the
podcast when they download that later if you missed it live,

(01:16:10):
just the idea of quarterback play. We're so thirsty and
so needed, you know, quarterback play to be exceptional that
when we see glimpses of it, we grab tight and
we don't let go. And for Jordan Love, he had
a bit of that in the second half to where
it started to click, obviously making the Dallas Cowboys look
silly in the playoff game. All comes together, but I

(01:16:33):
don't think he should have been on the field against Minnesota,
like he looked grossly uncomfortable and out of sorts against
one of the best pass rushes and you know Brian
Flores being in his bag. That was a game that
I didn't think he should have been out. And I
don't know how much you improve physically when you're being
chased around as he wore as he was even last week.

(01:16:53):
Only completed fifty seven percent of his passes in that
win against the Rams, and a Rams team. You know
Aaron Donald's not playing. I don't know if you know
this fit's.

Speaker 2 (01:17:04):
I'm blown away. Though as you say that, I realize
that we as a society are stage five clingers. We
all one date, one date, and we're like, you know what,
this might be the one, This might be the one,
Like why is it in a world we're also you know,
every like we're scared of commitment as a society though,

(01:17:25):
like in general, I think you know, everybody's a little
afraid to commit to much in today's world, but we're
not afraid to commit to a quarterback, like we're desperate
to Well, I gotta get him signed now, Like if
you know he's the guy, you better get ahead of
the cycle. Like you're not gonna be able to build
a team around him if you're like, we find all
of these reasons that we have to desperately put a
ring on it with every single quarterback. And I'm like, guys, relax,

(01:17:47):
if you love her, you're still lover her in a year,
Like it's good, you know it's this isn't gonna go anywhere.
If if Jordan Love was gonna be the end all
be all, Oh my god, answered, then you figure out
the contract. But I do think that there's an element
of there was so much desperation.

Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
He's got to be the right guy.

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
He's got absolutely have to. I'm looking right now at
the jacksuit we talked about last Segmentute, Is Trevor Lawrence
really worth fifty five million dollars? I don't know. At
least with Dak, we've seen MVP caliber performance consistently, love her,
hate the playoffs. I'm not going to let one game
outweigh everything I see for seventeen games. And I think
that we did the opposite of that with Jordan Love.

(01:18:24):
We let one game against an unmotivated, just trash Cowboys
team suddenly just changed the entire way we talk about him.
And then we forgave the game on Monday Night against
my beloved Raiders where he played like garbage, Like we
just we pick and choose the narrative because we want
to fall in love with these quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 (01:18:41):
Wow, perception of Raiders versus what the Cowboys were supposed
to be at that point, right, because we were putting
Micah Parson's name in discussions with Lawrence Taylor, not me,
but collectively as a national media again thirsty for a storyline.
But yeah, I think it goes back to look, I
celebrate the real least of the Shawshank redemption all those

(01:19:02):
years ago. We're celebrating thirty years of it that, you know,
hopes of the best and worst of things right at
different stages of the movie. You get that, and it's dangerous.
And certainly with quarterbacks, we're talking about all these rookie quarterbacks.
We didn't even get to Spencer Ratler, the other one
that's gonna be out there, Like I don't always think
that the quarterback needs to play if he's not ready.

(01:19:23):
Guess what, it can wait. You got a couple more
years on that deal, because you'd better wait rather than
lose him. He's Jayson. I'm buying Fox Football Sunday more next.

Speaker 2 (01:19:34):
Every season gives us certain games that become benchmarks, prove
it moments, certain times that you can stop everything and
say hey, as much as we don't want to make
too much of one result, this result matters. And today,
particularly for the Washington Commanders, they have an opportunity to

(01:19:55):
gain one of those benchmarks, to get true respect, to
stop the world and show everybody that in every possible way,
the Washington commanders had become this year's Texans. And I
don't know what's more impressive the turnaround or the fact
that we are sitting here legitimately talking about what a
threat Washington can be to a team that we thought
could be a Super Bowl contender. It's a Fox Football Sunday.

(01:20:18):
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we'd be coming into a year where, frankly, Washington would

(01:20:40):
be slowly working Jaden Daniels in to see what he
could be. Not a lot of high expectations. If we
rewind to a few months ago, and Baltimore is certainly
going to go out there and be just Baltimore right,
the glorious team that we thought that they could be.
And in fact, as we sit in this weekend, as
we come into a weekend that you mentioned earlier, has
some great matchups and some duds. What's interesting to me

(01:21:01):
is that we have a Ravens team that, you know,
frankly has had some inconsistent moments, but looks like they're
on the precipice of being dominant, and a Commander's team
that despite the fact that they don't have a lot
of defenses out here at four and one and they
are just mesmerizing the world. The question is is it sustainable?
And realistically that's a hard question to answer in the NFL,

(01:21:22):
but it's not a hard question to answer if you're
taking on Baltimore in Baltimore with the team that everybody
seems to respect.

Speaker 1 (01:21:28):
Yeah, it's the curiosity of you know, where the rubber
meets the road, right, and this is one of those
for the Commanders where we've got the four and one
start and we can go back and you know, it's
always the Hey, check the tape. Look what I said
that we thought the Commanders could be interesting because we
didn't think the division was very good, right Philadelphia, a
lot of unrest going at the back end of last year.

(01:21:50):
One of the huge headlines, you know, that was one
of the things we talked about, the Jaguars playing the Bears.
Later on, Peterson was lucky that the Eagles collapsed so
badly that it took all the spotlight off of what
would have been on Trevor Lawrence and Jacksonville, right, because
it was so so much a fail in Philly that
that garnered all the headlines. And you know, would they

(01:22:11):
fire Sirianni after such success? Whatever. But we try to
go through and we look at the schedules, and at
this point it's still a lot of hand ringing of well,
who did they beat and whatever else. Ravens are great
by a lot of metrics, but they lose those two
early games, including that loss to the Raiders, that leave
people still kind of wondering what it's all about, because

(01:22:32):
the defense certainly has not been the strength of this squad.
Quite the contrary, it's all Derrick Henry Lamar Jackson and
getting the tight ends involved. A couple of weeks ago,
I did enjoy talking on the Fantasy podcast that Dan
Byer and I do the eyewatch of Flex Jason, just
the idea of what a coach has to tell you
how much he really enjoyed the pancake blocks of your

(01:22:54):
tight ends. You know, your tight ends did not have
a good fantasy day for you because there's no category.
But the commanders like the thought was in the division, right,
talk about Philly Dallas offensively, Look what they were putting
out at running back. Now, Dowdell might be serviceable, but
Ezekiel Elliott's complaining he's not getting the ball. Did you

(01:23:14):
want him getting the ball if you were a fan
of the couch No, Hey, that's great for nostalgia, stand
on the sideline, But dak in terms of what he's
gotten weapons, Ferguson's okay, maybe Tolbert's going to emerge alongside
ceed Lamb, but the only thing you've had to hang
your hat on is the connection with Ceedee Lamb. And
the defense has been suspect now missing both Lawrence and Parsons,

(01:23:37):
so you push them aside. And the Giants are plucky,
But are they any good? I don't know. We'll find
out tonight over hundred forty eight in the game against
a Cincinnati squad that can't play a lick of defense. Hey,
remember all you people I met leaving the Super Bowl
a couple of years ago, how's.

Speaker 2 (01:23:51):
That working out for you? Now?

Speaker 1 (01:23:52):
When you thought it was the air of good feelings
and how quickly you'd get back there. I told you that,
I tell you now anyway back to Washington. A fantastic
run thus far, we're.

Speaker 2 (01:24:05):
Working through something that, Buddy like, maybe we're working through something. Well.

Speaker 1 (01:24:09):
I just tried to convince folks because they were just
too happy with a loss on a game they gave
away that. Ah, you know what, it's the beginning of
a great new era. It's like, no, no, it's the
Super Bowl. I should not be walking out as a
neutral fan of just the NFL with no dog in
the fight, being more angry at how that fourth quarter

(01:24:30):
went down than you are. I get it, you got
a vacation to southern California, but the expectation of oh,
we're gonna run back as Dann Marino, how that feels? Anyway,
it will work through that. Jane Daniels has been fantastic,
Kingsbury pulling all the strings, good weapons. Now we get
a step up in class, right, Cleveland's no good, Arizona's

(01:24:53):
been up and down. Cincinnati we already discussed can't play
defense the aforementioned Giants, and then early on they got
worked back in Week one by Tampa before rolling off
the four wins. So yeah, now Baltimore, which has by
a lot of these metrics you mentioned pff, there's a
lot of others where I'm like, I kind of shrug,
I go, all right, they're part of a large algorithm

(01:25:16):
that we can put together. I'll take there. But again,
I want the eye test. Yeah, if he can go
and solve this, he wins the Beltway. And unfortunately, if
Caleb Williams doesn't throw for four hundred and four against
the Jaguars, they may crown Jadeen Daniels emperor.

Speaker 2 (01:25:34):
I'm not sure they shouldn't, you know. And then yeah,
let me also crown Cliff Kingsbury here, who you know.
I think both of us can have a little bit
of angst in our heart because Cliff Kingsbury was available
for the Bears to hire if they wanted. You know,
Cliff Kingsbury was working on a contract with the Raiders,
but they refuse to give him an extra year on
his deal. So he becomes Washington's offensive coordinator. And he's

(01:25:54):
done a really nice job with Jaiden Daniels of just
sort of opening the layers one at a time, and
it's and incredible to watch. I think, what's funny is
this is what we do when we don't think teams
are gonna be good. We put a yeah butt next
to all their wins. Yeah but they beat the Giants
and the Giants stink. Yeah, but they beat the Bengals
first month of the season, that never counts. Yeah, but
they beat the Cardinals Cardinals there and they good. Like

(01:26:15):
we've done that every time. But realistically, if we just
look at where Washington sits right now, four and one,
if they get a win today against Baltimore, go to
five and one the next several games Panthers, Bears, Giants, Steelers,
They're likely to be a favorite in all four of
those games. Like, there's a very real scenario that gets
Washington to eight to nine wins quickly. And that's at

(01:26:39):
some point you just got to step back and respect it. Now.
I realize, you know, we watched Minnesota a few years
ago just reel off a bunch of wins and they
weren't any good. And we watched Philly get to ten
in one and we realize they weren't any good. But
I feel like at some point we've just got to
turn around and say, hey, this team, especially when you've
got a quarterback, Like this is just in every game.
Now that being said, everybody's just please sit down, shut

(01:27:03):
up in color in your books. If you're gonna tell
me Jaden's gonna be the MVP, it never happens. Like
there's only been one time a rookie has been the
MVP of the NFL, and it was Jim Brown, Like
we got to go all the way back to Jim like,
he's not gonna be the MVP. So it's just and
it doesn't mean he shouldn't be. It just means the
voters never do that. So you know, if they never
do that, I don't think they're gonna suddenly do that now.
But more important than any of that, you're absolutely right

(01:27:25):
that with the rest of the East being as weird
as it is so far this year, why not Washington.
I mean, I hear you that the Cowboys are one
dimensional and they're running game stinks, but also they only
like Tony Poler was only good for sixty one yards again.

Speaker 1 (01:27:39):
No, that's it right, he was. He was a compiler,
like there was nothing quote special, because I mean a
thousand yards is I mean over seventeen games that ain't much?

Speaker 2 (01:27:49):
Right, Well, and my god, I mean the offense only
having CD Lamb. That's kind of what they were last year.
It's just falling apart this year. And you know, finally
it's almost like they find the tortoise and they they
finally got caught up to in this and you know,
so in the Eagles are so decimated by the Asuran.
I don't even think we know right now if the
Eagles are going to be any good because they just

(01:28:09):
they haven't had the most important portions of their offense
out on the field for any sustainable amount of time.
Now is that an excuse?

Speaker 1 (01:28:16):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:28:16):
But is that context that we need to know for
later in the season if we're trying to figure out
how good Philly is. Yeah, so you know, why not
Washington when the two favorites in the division just haven't
put it together.

Speaker 1 (01:28:27):
No, it's it's a fun exercise. MVP odds. As we said,
Mahomes is in the lead. Plus two seventy five is
where he's at on most books. Josh Allen second at
plus six hundred. But let's face it, look, if the
Bills are any good, it's because he's wearing a superhero
outfit or maybe a cape based on where they're at

(01:28:49):
in terms of personnel. Let's let's just be honest with
what we are here. Lamar Jackson third right behind him
at plus six fifty, then CJ. Stroud, Jalen Daniels, certain
our Jad and Daniels at fifth right now at ten
to one or eleven to one, just ahead of Sam
Darnold for anybody that really wants to throw some money
against the wall again showing what we do with odds

(01:29:11):
and early expectations and returns. But I mean, how many
teams do you really say are great in the NFL
right now? I don't know that there's Washington fits the
bill as well as anybody, and you went through the
near schedule, I think you keep going the rest of
their schedule. I don't think there's a game on there

(01:29:33):
that I just circle and say they obviously lose this,
except for saying, Okay, it'll be a tough road game
at Philadelphia or whatever. Otherwise in New Orleans has come
back to Earth, Atlanta's on the schedule, You've got Tennessee
on the schedule, go back to Pittsburgh. I mean, they're
all winnable games in the current iteration of the squad,

(01:29:54):
which I think is exciting also a reminder for a
guy like Cliff Kingsbury, because sometimes we want guys, you know,
we want that head coach. I think some guys are
really good coordinators. And that's where where it goes back
to Lincoln Riley. Uh, and then we we watch what
they do, uh when when we're in the full head
coach where maybe it doesn't quite work quite quite so.

Speaker 2 (01:30:16):
Well, well, that's why I think brilliantly several years ago,
Dominque Foxworth did a piece for ESPN explaining why they
needed to start a scouting combine where coordinators showed how
they could handle being a head coach. It's a totally
different job. Yeah, Like that's the the lost art in
all of this is that it is a completely different

(01:30:37):
group of responsibilities. So you know, you earn it by
being great at this. And it's like, oh, imagine just
suddenly if you you know, you build cars, and then
somebody comes in and says, well, you build somebody built
so many great cars, We're now going to let you
build this building. It's like, oh, it's totally different skill set.
You know, it's a different type of building. So we

(01:30:57):
just forget that. And it's such an arbitrary crapshoot on
which guys are gonna work and which guys weren't. You know,
it's it's Robert Salid was supposed to be absolutely a surefire,
can't miss head coaching prospect, and we saw how that
worked out.

Speaker 1 (01:31:10):
Now, you asked who's good?

Speaker 2 (01:31:13):
And by the way, it's a Fox Football Sunday on
Fox Sports Radio, Mike Carmen, Jason Fitz hanging out with you.
You asked who's good? I will quickly remind everybody twenty
of the teams in the NFL right now, twenty out
of thirty two are either five hundred or within one
game of five hundred either way. Like eleven of the
sixteen teams in the NFC are within one game of

(01:31:33):
five hundred either way or five hundred. Like nobody has
separated themselves. Like as bad as most of these teams are,
as much as we can look at and say, oh
my god, the Bengals are what and for it's over
for them? Is it? Because nobody's really separating themselves for
the most part. Kansas City, obviously is Kansas City, Minnesota
has been great so far this year. They deserve a

(01:31:55):
lot of credit for that. I think the Lions are
a really good football team. I think we can agree
on those. I think the forty nine ers will get
it right. But my god, I mean, I'm just looking
across the board saying, if you had to bet your
house on most of these teams, the answer would be no,
thank you, I'll pass right.

Speaker 1 (01:32:12):
I mean, the Texans are four and one. Have you
seen anything to say, Wow, this is a great special team. No,
you got a special quarterback. You've got a really good talent.
And Nico Collins, by the way, who's gonna miss at
least the next four weeks, Right, Joe Mixon's gonna come back,
and that certainly changes some things. He was felled and

(01:32:33):
he made his feelings known this week. He was felding
in that game against the Bears on a hip drop tackle,
which I don't think, God is nearly the coverage and
outrage that it used to. Did we just kind of
decide that that one goes to the wayside? Eh, Yeah,
it's only Joe Mixon, and we don't like Joe Mixon.
I get it. Joe Mixon did some terrible things. He's

(01:32:53):
still a guy on the field. The selective outrage is
always kind of funny to me, Jason.

Speaker 2 (01:32:58):
But selective outrage was in my mind if you just
said that, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:33:02):
I mean, that's where we're at, right, Like for some guys, man,
how many other people have been concussed or had issues?
I like that there was at least a spotlight a
little on the Josh Allen thing, but outside of twatungua Iiloa,
and we really covered how many other concussions and issues
guys have been having. I'm not even talking about Molik
neighbors going to a Travis Scott concert or a strip club.

(01:33:23):
While in concussion protocol, Brian Dable looked thrilled to have
to answer those questions ahead of a game against Cincinnati.
But all of that to say, like we pick and
choose as we go forward, but you know, trying to
figure out what's great. I mean, and this is what
the NFL wants, right, and they want parody, They want
excitement week to week. So when we get into December

(01:33:44):
and we do all the flexing out of games, all
of them have consequence. But the Chiefs are five and zero.
We trust the organization, right, It's the old Philadelphia seventy
six ers trust the process kind of thing. We trust
Andy Reid, we trust Patrick Homes. Are they a great team,
great culture? But are they going to blow anybody out?

(01:34:06):
You know, if I guess you're saying, if I can
keep it in a within a possession game, then yeah,
I'm gonna take and back all of the Patrick Mahomes
money up vikings. Are we are we sure Sam Darnold
is going to be able to lead you where you
need to go? No, but I'm intrigued, right, Color me
intrigued as they battle the Lions for the top of

(01:34:26):
that division. Like all the way through, there's just been
an uneven start to the season, which which is good theater, right.
Part of it is the preseason. Part of it is
changeover and coaching staffs and coordinators and philosophies and whatever else.
And part of it is that I think more and
more teams with the seventeenth game at least start the
season to where it looks like well, Week one and

(01:34:47):
two are kind of just an extended preseason because these
guys are finally on the field working with each other.
So it leads to some sloppiness early on, and they
all count just the same. As I'd like to remind folks,
win September. While it may not count as much as
we yell into a microphone as one at the beginning
of December, in the end, it's one of whatever your

(01:35:09):
total is.

Speaker 2 (01:35:10):
You said earlier, the Chiefs. You know they're not a
great team. I think we all agree on that. The
problem is they're only in close games. And that's a
problem because if you look at Patrick Mahomes's uncanny record
in close games, you realize that they're never gonna blow
you out. You're never gonna blow them out. So now
you have to beat the best head coach, the best
defensive coordinated, the best GM, and the best quarterback all
on the same team in a close game, and that

(01:35:33):
just doesn't happen. There's one team today that I think
is absolutely Upper Creek, and when they lose, it's going
to be an indication of why they are Upper Creek
for years to come. We'll tell you about it next
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taunts me with pictures of donuts on social media. Is

(01:36:18):
he now tweeted out the donuts spread that you guys
got a lot of respect for this, but I don't
see gentlemen in the picture there. I don't think I
see a good quality cake donut, and I'm more of
a cake donut, so harmon. I don't know which way
you've gone with this, but I don't see any sort
of a cake donut there, and that makes me a
little disappointed.

Speaker 4 (01:36:38):
We actually we opted to go with a cronut instead
of a cake donut, so I don't know if you're familiar.

Speaker 2 (01:36:46):
I'm familiar with cronuts, guys, like I was a fat
kid growing up to play the violin. There's nothing I
don't know about donuts. Let's go crona I'm very familiar
with the cronut, but like again, look, this is why objectively,
by the way, about to make a lot of America
mad unless they sponsor this show Krispy Kremer trash right like,
because I just don't like yeast donuts that like, and

(01:37:08):
I don't want my donuts hot like. I don't want
to melt in my mouth donut like I want. I
want a cake donut that feels like I'm eating a
little piece of cake.

Speaker 3 (01:37:15):
Like.

Speaker 2 (01:37:15):
I want a double chocolate cake donut or any sort
of They give me some of an old fashioned cake donut,
you know, just has to be cake. Though. The number
of mistakes made in this box, I just where's the
full diversity and representation in donut quality.

Speaker 1 (01:37:30):
I feel like we have a video that we need
to make where you start going on a John Madden
like rantom, boom over there, look at what that's kind
of donut? What is this? What's this doing in the box?
This doesn't even need to be here? And where did
that come from?

Speaker 2 (01:37:42):
Boom? That looks like when I go viral with this,
it's gonna be this is gonna be electric because you know,
for anyone that doesn't know, when I was a kid,
the reason I do what I do is because of
my love of the Raiders. I make no bones about that.
When I was a kid playing the violin, the one
day that I didn't practice with Sundays because my dad

(01:38:02):
always said, my dad's a big Raiders fan, and he said,
I don't want to listen to a cat die while
I watched the Raiders game. So no violin practice during
the Raiders.

Speaker 1 (01:38:09):
Games, although it would have been appropriate for many a year.

Speaker 2 (01:38:11):
Yeah, oh my god, my whole life.

Speaker 1 (01:38:13):
But oh I was trying to be kind. Thank you
did have that rich Gannon run.

Speaker 2 (01:38:17):
Yeah, yeah, you're right. Three good years and there I forgot,
you know, thanks Tony Sarahgus, thanks to tuck rule and
thanks an idiot head coach that I got no Super
Bowls out of that, But I digress. Dad used to
go get twelve a dozen double chocolate donuts, so like
you're dunkin donut, chocolate cake donut with the chocolate frosting

(01:38:39):
on top, and we would eat a dozen donuts during
the Raiders game. So when I was on the road
with the Van Parry, every Sunday that we were on
the road, I would find a local donut place and
I would get a dozen double chocolate donuts and eat
those every Sunday and eat twelve donuts during the Raiders game. Now,
I'm a beacon of fitness in the world, so I
usually try to go to the gym before the game
and get you know, my workout, and I'm eating healthy food.

(01:39:01):
And I found that, you know, the donuts made me
feel better during the losses. So yeah, I like the
idea of going viral with the John Madden breakdown of
the proper donut box.

Speaker 1 (01:39:08):
Though well, I mean, I just feel shamed though that
not only did I eat a donut two that they
weren't even of the quality of donut that are up
the snuff for you. So I feel like doubly shamed.

Speaker 2 (01:39:24):
No you, I mean you got they look good. They
look good. They look good, they just aren't, aren't cakey. Also,
just because I was looking at social media, shout out
to pet Joe Kiss, who says not one word about
the Cleveland Guardians since I got up on Fox Sports
Radio with a bunch of exclamation points. Yeah, Pet, I'm
just going to tell you this right out of the gate.

(01:39:44):
You're right, We're probably also not going to break down
the w NBA Game two of the Finals today, which
I'll watch and I'm excited for WWNBA. Game one was spectacular.
It's a Fox Football Sunday and I hate to be
the one to break it to your baseball guys, but
like nobody really cares.

Speaker 1 (01:40:00):
Well, I mean, look, I'm excited about it.

Speaker 2 (01:40:02):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:40:02):
We're here in Los Angeles, right, so Dodgers Mets, and
certainly on my radar, I ad a heightened sense because
I'm already getting texts from my lunatic partners from the
week of It's game day. So game one later on
of the NLCS, and congratulations to the Guardians. They got
over on schoolble Right. It's where you get greedy with

(01:40:26):
the starting pitching where he's not right one hundred percent
what he is and you get burned. Gives up the
big home run and that's the end. Seven to three. Congratulations.
Now we have Guardians going up and getting it. Still
does not roll off the tongue, by the way it fits,
It really does not. We have Cleveland going up against
and look, Cleveland needs everything to cheer about, given what's

(01:40:49):
going on with their football team. To bring it back
to you know, some of the miserable franchises here in
in the NFL, but against the Yankees. So a lot
of folks doing the Look the three hundred million dollars
pay rolls against the Guardian, Like you could spend money too.
Shut up, god, I love that.

Speaker 2 (01:41:08):
Like it's like college football when people say we can't compete,
they can't. You just got to have the money.

Speaker 1 (01:41:13):
Just got change. You just got to change the rule,
you know, change how you're doing business. Right, the rules
of the game have changed. Let's play along.

Speaker 2 (01:41:21):
Imagine if I told every single person involved in whatever
you do. You you make cars, you make music, you
you have you have a sports franchise. All you have
to do is spend the most money and you can
win as much as you want. Like that's the wild
wild West of Major League Baseball. That's a wild wild
West to college football right now. Like all you gotta
do is raise and spend the most money if you want.

(01:41:42):
You know, as a kid from Vegas, I always look
at UNLV and I think, you know what, I cannot
believe that UNLV hasn't put together the largest collective of
casino money we've ever seen just to make UNLV great
it whatever sport they want to be, well.

Speaker 1 (01:41:54):
Look at that what they tried to do for the kid,
and there was Dad, No.

Speaker 2 (01:41:57):
No, it's it's as Wild Guardians fans. You deserve hope though,
because you're not getting a lot of hope from your
football team today. I'll break down why, but first we
got to get an update on what is trending?

Speaker 1 (01:42:11):
What up, Kevin, Yeah, we got some NFL injury updates
for you, as Ian Rappaport with several updates. We're about,
you know, an hour or so away from kicking off
the London game between the Jaguars and the Bears. Rapperpart
did say that Gave Davis and Evan Ingram were expected
to play. They are now officially listed as active for

(01:42:33):
the London game. Jaguars and Bear set to kick off
at nine to thirty Eastern time. Rappaport also saying that
Colds quarterback Anthony Richardson listed as questionable with his oblique injury,
but he did have a good week of practice and
very well could play if he has a solid pre
game work out. And there's also a good chance that
Michael Pittman Junior and Josh Downs could be on the

(01:42:55):
field today as well. Raiders running backs a Mere white
Is was back at practice on Friday, but is still
considered a long shot to play, and they have already
downgraded wide receiver Jacoby Myers to doubtful with his ankle injury.
Panthers wide receiver Deyonce Johnson expected to be able to

(01:43:16):
play today, he's dealing with an ankle injury. Joe Mixon
back in the lineup after missing the past few games
with a high ankle sprain, and Ravens corner Marlon Humphrey
was limited with an ankle injury but is expected to
be on the field today, But the Cardinals unlikely to
have their kicker, Matt Prater. He is questionable with a
knee injury, and practice squad kicker Chad Ryland has already

(01:43:39):
been elevated to the act roster in case the Cardinals
do need him to kick. In college football, we did
have a few big games in the top ten. Number
two Ohio State number three Oregon arguably the game of
the year, and it lived up to the hype as
the Ducks stopping the buck guys as time expired and

(01:43:59):
they hold on for the thirty two to thirty one
win to move to six and OH on the season.
Three and oh in their first Big ten campaign and
Number one Texas rolls over Oklahoma thirty four to three
and impressive win for the Longhorn sol We'll see exactly
who's going to be the number one team in the country,
as each team certainly has a case for the top
spot in the next rankings. Number four Penn State was

(01:44:22):
trailing Big the USC two touchdowns at halftime, but they
outscore the Trojans twenty seven to ten in the second
half plus overtime to win it in overtime thirty three
to thirty. Number five George over Mississippi State forty one
thirty one. Number seven Alabama hangs on for dear life
against South Carolina twenty seven to twenty five. Number eight

(01:44:43):
Tennessee beat Florida and overtime twenty three seventeen and Number
thirteen LSU did not leave until the last play of overtime,
but they get the win over Number nine Ole miss
in overtime twenty nine to twenty six. Back to you, guys, He's.

Speaker 2 (01:44:57):
Mike Carmen, I'm Jason Fitz. It's a Fox Football Sunday,
Fox Sports Radio. Follow us on social media at Swollen
Dome at Jason Fitz coming at you from the ti
Raq dot Com studios Harmon. My mom used to always
say people in hell on ice water, and it was
her way of saying, you know what, you can want,
what you want all day long, you ain't gonna get it.
Life is not fair. And my buddy used to always say,

(01:45:18):
fairs where a pig gets a ribbon. We got to
understand some of that. When we talk about you can
feel free to steal. That's just southernism. We talk about
that a lot when it comes to sports. Because right now,
I just mentioned Guardians fans have something to be happy about.
Brown's fans don't, And I know everybody wants to sit
here and say the same thing I've said it too,

(01:45:40):
that it is time to move on from Deshaun Watson.
We also know that it is basically financially impossible for
that to happen. But the biggest part of this, I
don't think we're talking about enough, is that, frankly, as
much as you know that Deshaun Watson can't play, as
much as I know that Deshaun Watson can no longer play,
as much as I think most of us believe Jameis
Winston would be better today as a starting quarterback. As

(01:46:02):
bad as some of the things are for Cleveland on
offense other than just a quarterback position, the one thing
we're not factoring enough is that the ownership group does
not want to make a change. And I've talked to
a couple of the insiders, including a great Charles Robinson
at YAH who sports We do a podcast there together
on the NFL, and he made it clear that nobody
in the organization is going to be able to bench

(01:46:23):
to Sean Watson because that is not what ownership wants.
And so today, as we look at the Browns taking
on the Eagles, I just keep sitting here thinking about
we can yell into a mic and we could say
you gotta get rid of the guy. He can't play anymore.
He's got the yips, he's trash, he's no good. What's
it matter if the owner is not going to make
a change, and if financially there isn't an easy change

(01:46:44):
he can be made anytime in the foreseeable future. I think,
as hard as this usually is to say in the NFL,
it is actually right to say today that the Browns
are screwed, not just today, not just this week, not
just this year, not just next year, but the year
after it is going to take a full two and
a half years of football to get through the disaster

(01:47:06):
that has become Deshaun Watson.

Speaker 1 (01:47:08):
Well, and that's the difficult part of it, right the
economic terms, as we're talking about building widgets or cars
or whatever else, you know, we get into the idea
of sunk costs whatever it is. It could be durable goods,
it could be you know, something you made of a
purchase on, could be a relationship, whatever. You know, the

(01:47:28):
time and money that you've invested in something doesn't matter
in the moment. And that's where you have the disconnect
between us on the outside looking in and whatever ownership management,
whatever thinks of the deal they made with Deshaun Watson,
if they're willing to just keep forcing it out there
and right now, would you believe that the reigning coach

(01:47:51):
of the year is the third most likely to be
the next guy fired. Yeah, that's right, You've got Stefanski
is only plus six hundred to be the next coach
fired in the National Football League. After the year that
they had last year, and obviously a lot of talk
of hey, why didn't they keep Joe Flacco whatever else?

(01:48:12):
Well clear they didn't want him in the room, whether
it was Deshaun Watson or it was ownership thinking that
his presence would not be helpful. They moved on from it.
This is what you got to work with. And as
long as they're not getting the code read from upstairs
to bench him, they're just gonna keep spending the bad
money regardless. Now it's just a question of whether they

(01:48:35):
want to put out the bad product as well, And
at least to this point, it looks like Haslam and
the ownership they're more than happy to continue to do that,
and they're hamstringing Stefanski in the process. Hasn't helped that.
Nick Chubb hasn't gotten back to for him just yet
and hasn't been available, and he won't be back this
week either. Jerome Ford serviceable a time, but your receiving

(01:48:55):
corps hasn't been up to snuff. Go all the way down.
But it all begins and ends with quarterback play, the
number of sacks he takes, the bad decisions, all of that.
But it's a sunk cost and someone should start sending
I used the Shawshank reference earlier. Let's build a library.
Everybody send Jimmy Haslam a letter a day or two

(01:49:16):
letters a day, and maybe you can get your change.
But until that happens and you change his mind and
his heart, you're just shouting into the wind. You're don
Quixote to leave no literary or film reference stone unturned.

Speaker 2 (01:49:32):
The funny thing about that is that you're watching a team,
and whether this is because of Deshaun or just the
ancillary side effect of all of it, you're watching a
team where almost everybody has suddenly started playing their worst. Right,
we know how good the best of Amari Cooper can be,

(01:49:52):
but we also know how maddeningly inconsistent Amari can be.
And I talked to a former coach that worked with
him extensively, and I asked him years ago, Hey, why
the inconsistency with Themari and the coach I'll never forget
laughed at me and said, if I knew that, I'd
probably still have my job.

Speaker 1 (01:50:08):
And he's gradual response.

Speaker 2 (01:50:10):
To the fact that you know, week in and week
out they didn't know that you could get whether it
was somebody said something to him, or looked at him
some kind of way in the locker room, or did
something they were just weeks he was checked out, and
you see some of that now, and you've got you know,
the most inconsistent of Jerry Judy, You've got no Nick Chubb,
You've got an offensive line that has just fallen apart

(01:50:32):
in front of Deshaun Watson, and you have a quarterback
that just kind of feels like he's got the yips right,
And so how do you fix all of that at once?
You don't. And you mentioned Stefanski getting fired. I know
that we're not going to see Kevin Stefanski walk away
from a job, but man, I'd be tempted to if
if as people are giving indication the ownership group is saying, hey,

(01:50:53):
I don't care what you think, Deshaun is our starting quarterback.
The one thing we have to remember is that you
don't be caught the owner of an NFL team without
being a billionaire. And if in my life experience, you
do not become wildly rich without some level of ego
attached to it. Of course, so now you're asking a billionaire,

(01:51:14):
like one of the one percent of the one percent
of the one percent that has so much money that
they can spend their fun money, multiple billions of dollars
their fun money just overhere on an NFL team, and
you want that person to suddenly swallow their pride, swallow
their ego, acknowledge that they've written hundreds of millions of
dollars a bad checks and say, my bad. I just

(01:51:37):
I understand, and I believe in sunken cost theory. I'm
not sure that I believe the human element of ego
from a billionaire will allow the billionaire to accept that theory.
It's much easier to simply say, hey, got to be
the coach, you lost the locker room than it is
to look in the mirror and be like, oh, man,
did I pay hundreds of millions of dollars to the
wrong guy and hamstring my entire organization for the next

(01:51:59):
five years? Because that's what the Haslums.

Speaker 1 (01:52:01):
Did well to punctuate it. I mean, it might be
the only contract I recall in NFL history where you
actually had other teams, owners gms comment on it as
to its setting a bad precedent, as to it being
bad for the league. Now, part of it was Little
Gamesman shipped on Baltimore's end because they had to deal
with paying Lamar Jackson. But you saw several other owners

(01:52:24):
and GMS just say, I don't know if this is
the trend that we want to go down. And it
wasn't even dealing with any of what Deshaun Watson's contract
would later be dealing with, right because at least for
the moment, they've resolved all legal issues. But that doesn't
mean that's still not swirling around there. And I go
from the banshees in this year and you didn't say nothing,

(01:52:48):
you didn't do nothing. I just don't like you no more.
That might just be Amari Cooper and some of the
teammates and coaches that he's dealt with.

Speaker 2 (01:52:56):
It's it's hard because there's no fix for it. I'm sorry,
Eveland fans, and to me yelling you need to bench him,
he needs to get out of there. Is a little
like somebody coming in and trying to make up an
imaginary NBA trade with no conversation about what it means
for the salary. Can trade this bum to get this
bumb And it's like, hey, you know that it's really complicated.

(01:53:16):
And that's the hardest part about this for Browns fans.
The result on the field is not complicated. Everything else
that happens off the field with it is wildly complicated.

Speaker 1 (01:53:25):
Yeah, go guardians.

Speaker 2 (01:53:26):
Yeah, that's how we put go guardians. There's your distraction
that you need. Speaking a complicated. There were some results
yesterday in college football that made the landscape more complicated
than we thought it would be. I'll explain what I mean.
Next to Fox Football Sunday, He's Mark Harmon. I'm Jason
Fitz hanging out with you. Well back in so Fox
Sports Sunday Live from the Tirack dot Com studios. He's

(01:53:48):
Mike Harmon. I'm Jason Fitz. Follow us at Swollen Dome
at Jason fitz f I t Z. Here's the thing.
We'll get back to the NFL in the second Harmon.
But I kept talking about last night, and I keep
thinking about my phone yesterday, right Like, nobody texted me
you up, Nobody text me like, hey, what's going on?

(01:54:08):
You want to party tonight? No on Saturdays. This is
life when you do what we do. My phone is
not blowing up with any fun exciting. You want to
go on a rager, Let's have a bender. I'm sober
right now anyway, so it wouldn't matter.

Speaker 1 (01:54:20):
You want to go sing some karaoke? God, Yeah, nobody's
hit me up figuring it out.

Speaker 2 (01:54:23):
If I want to go to the Butterfly in West
Harford and sing karaoke on a Saturday night.

Speaker 4 (01:54:27):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:54:27):
I get blown up all day every day with the
thoughts on Saturday, particularly about college football. And it hit
me yesterday because at one point my buddy Steve text
me he said Alabama is not a top ten team.
There's no way. As Alabama was struggling to try and
find their way to a victory yesterday. Later in the day,
another buddy text me says, there is no way Tennessee

(01:54:50):
is a top ten team.

Speaker 1 (01:54:52):
Take them all out.

Speaker 2 (01:54:53):
Later in the night, I get Penn State can't really
be number four, can they? I'm looking around at I
think what we really yesterday is there are three really
really bankable teams right now in college football Texas, Oregon
and Ohio State. Even in a loss, I will still give
Ohio State that credit. After that, the second class whatever

(01:55:14):
we want to call that. Like the next grouping of teams,
Penn State, Tennessee, Georgia, Alabama keep going down the list.
I'm not sure any of them have really shown that
they're great. But the problem is, I believe if I
had to on a neutral field right now, bet my
house on any of them against let's say Iowa State,
a team that's you know, eleven twelfth in the rankings.

(01:55:36):
I would still take all of the teams I just mentioned.
So do they look like what we think of as
number four five six seven teams?

Speaker 3 (01:55:43):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:55:43):
But are they probably number four five sixty seven teams? Yes?
Two things both feel like they're true at once.

Speaker 1 (01:55:48):
Yeah, I mean we get into the muddled masses and
the old Caliperi line to steal from college buckets, the
succeed and proceed ubi who's on the schedule. They all
count just the same style points are not supposed to.
I mean, they're at least not necessarily the same in
terms of coefficients in that algorithm. Right, once upon a time,

(01:56:10):
it was all right, we've got to impress the polsters,
run it up by forty, and if we don't, we're
probably gonna get screwed. Now, you just win, and certainly
with a twelve team playoff, you know, just giving yourself
the opportunity to play. But I think you're absolutely right.
You got three teams that are head and shoulders. You
got a bunch of question marks. While we're on the
college football subject. I think we'll do a chunk of

(01:56:30):
NFL and maybe some more Guardian stock. Next hour is
the the I don't. I mean that with all love
to our friends that are on Twitter. That's like, I
love baseball. It's a football morning. Should Kirby Smart be
suspended for the push of the opponent quarterback?

Speaker 2 (01:56:55):
I mean I'd be okay with it.

Speaker 1 (01:56:57):
I mean, just like legitimately, and I've got, you know,
forgive the pond dog in the fight.

Speaker 2 (01:57:03):
But I really wanted you to bark when you said.

Speaker 1 (01:57:06):
Well I could. Yeah, there you go cott in print,
but the you know, the shoveling, and you might be
without your coach if they really want to adjudicate this properly.
But yeah, to your point, I mean, Miami, we've watched
a couple of narrow escapes, and maybe the beneficiaries of
a little bit of of officiating help every once in

(01:57:29):
a while. But that's what it takes to get through
the slog of what is. And I think, as much
as we may not want to admit it, aren't we
kind of excited that it kind of looks like the
NFL a little bit more in parody, right, We like
dominant teams until we don't.

Speaker 2 (01:57:45):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:57:45):
We love the Warriors for about a year and a half,
and then we got tired of the only dynastic run
we've had where people didn't get mad and upset unless
you were in the city. Getting vanquished was going back
to Jordan's bulls. Otherwise we get mad really fast and
we want the next thing to pop up and vanquish them.
College football, Yeah, it's a lot of the usual suspects,

(01:58:06):
but it's a lot crowded, a more crowded a playing
field where every Saturday and we at least have a
couple of head scratchers or you getting your phone blown up,
which is why you got to have the unlimited you
know text buddy.

Speaker 2 (01:58:19):
Yeah, I mean it's I'm old enough to remember when
we had to manage our minutes. Yeah, I'm rewatching Shameless
right now, and it's so funny watching the family split
the minutes on one cell phone. In season one, they're like,
who gets the cell phone today? We got to watch
our minute track. Oh oh kids, let me tell you
what society is going to be like in a few years.

Speaker 1 (01:58:38):
Said Bill Macy. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:58:41):
Yeah, it's it's amazing how dark that that show.

Speaker 1 (01:58:45):
Is next level stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:58:46):
Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. But you're right. I think
what all of this tells us, by the way, is
that the first couple of rounds of college football playoff
games is going to be electric. We're still only going
to have by that time, we'll have a predictable who
are the three or four best teams? But man, I'm
not I can't tell you today definitively the Poise State
doesn't belong or that Army doesn't belong with any of
these teams, because who the heck knows that? It's impossible

(01:59:09):
right now to tell. What I can't tell you is
We're about to do a full hour of NonStop Cleveland
Guardians Talk next on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (01:59:15):
A kid, Oh my, how it goes so fast? Countdown
clock inside of a half hour Game day, Week six
of your National Football League Bears Jaguars getting ready to
go from Tottenham. A little later on in the hour,
we'll get into that game and so much more as

(01:59:35):
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(01:59:57):
So off this hour and off to day, so tagging
in our man, it's Jason Fitz at Jason Fitz where
you find him on Twitter. See a lot of his
content there, his music efforts as well and links to
what else he's got popping all the college football coverage
and everything he does. Over at Yahoo. You hear him

(02:00:18):
on the fellas with Anthony Gargano at Chris Purfett who
tags in our technical producer. They get after it on
Saturday mornings. So yeah, all of that to say, welcome in, Jason.
We're in the final hour. Those first three went fast,
including some karaoke Donut and a lot of football talk
and just a little bit waffer thin on Guardians.

Speaker 2 (02:00:41):
Yeah, I feel like, you know, this hour of all
baseball is going to be really powerful.

Speaker 1 (02:00:46):
Well, let's go now, White Sox one hundred and twenty
one losses on the year, and how do they fix it?
They don't. There it is, there's your baseball content Dodgers
and Mets later on today the we of Baseball that
I'm not gonna lie seven to eleven Pacific Monday through
Friday here Fox Sports Radio. I have a house divided.

Speaker 2 (02:01:08):
I have an.

Speaker 1 (02:01:09):
Executive producer who's a huge Dodger fan. And anybody who's
heard a minute of Smith and I yelling at each
other Jason Smith that how about a frescore? You find
him on Twitter if you want to get after him
about this series. You know he's a monster Mets fan
to where he still has a lot of that six
year old boy in him, and quite frankly fits I'm

(02:01:30):
jealous of it. I'm jealous of it sometimes Sometimes sometimes
I just want to throttle him. But sometimes I'm jealous
that that little boy can still be in there because
I don't really have that same thing Outwardly. I may
feel to burn inside, but I don't rant and scream
like an idiot.

Speaker 2 (02:01:47):
I'm jealousy. You like the one thing that I promised
myself when I got into this business full time in
what twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, was it. I wasn't going
to lose the passion that made me want to switch
in the first place. So I've always kept my over
the top love of my beloved Raiders, Like I am
that guy that just screams endlessly at the and I'm

(02:02:10):
smart enough to know I shouldn't smart enough to know
I shouldn't care, but I do, and it ruins. I'm
still at that spot where when the Raiders are inept,
which is most of my life, it ruins my Sunday.
And then Monday, I can't watch any cover. It's like,
I'm lucky that Monday is technically my only day off
for Yahoo, so I spend Monday rewatching games from Sunday

(02:02:31):
that I felt like I should have paid more attention to,
watching some college football stuff. Like I'm like you, I
like to get the consolid data games and then just
do my work on Monday and that transfers into Tuesday morning.
But I'm gonna be honest with you, a lot of
that is just a sheer distraction from watching any TV
show that's going to remind me that my favorite team
is an abject disaster. And then Tuesday night, I get

(02:02:52):
straight into work again as we start college football and
NFL shows for the rest of the week. Like I'm
not I'm not really over a loss on Sunday until
usually Thursday afternoon, and then by Friday, I'm like, here
we go again. Just got to start bracing myself. Today.
I will be on pins and needles at four o'clock
when the Raiders play a meaningless game against the Steelers,
and it will make me yell like it's just I

(02:03:13):
wish I could shut that.

Speaker 1 (02:03:14):
Portionally, well, it's the compartmentalization, because I think in our business,
when you say you're not a fan of a team,
I think it's disingenuous. There's still teams you followed as
a kid that I get it. They may have moved
to another city and broken your heart. Okay, maybe you
don't follow them. You probably adopted something else, either a

(02:03:35):
coach or a player that you had in afinity for
I mean, we certainly see that. But anybody that goes
and says, well, I gave up my fandom long ago,
I'm certainly not saying that. I'm just saying I don't.
I don't let it consume me the way it used to,
because it was unhealthy. It really was. Because let's face it,
I'm a Chicago sports fan except the Cubs. There's a

(02:03:55):
lot of losing involved, right we had a nice run
with the Blackhawks that seems like a lifetime ago. The
Bulls come on. Nineteen ninety eight is forever ago. Half
of our audience, maybe more so listening, weren't even born
when Michael Jordan ruled the Earth. The Bears. I'm still
trading on eighty five. Don't get me wrong. I still

(02:04:16):
enjoyed the Rex Grossman led Bears that lost to Peyton
Manning in Miami, the game most remembered for Devin Haster's
kickoff return and Prince performing Purple Rain at halftime. You
know what I mean, Like the halftime show is really
what you remember of that Super Bowl. It's not even
that the Colts won. They're one with Peyton Manning there

(02:04:37):
because he'd em played particularly well. Like they did a
pretty good job defensively overall. So you know all that
to say, you know, you still wear it And in
a half hour I'll be screaming at the televisions here.
I can't throw things because it's not my TV, so
if it breaks, it'll come out of my paycheck and
maybe I'll face some disciplinary action here from Fox Sports Radio.

(02:04:58):
But just I blame, just blame well, I could.

Speaker 2 (02:05:03):
Pretty sure short there sure word versus.

Speaker 1 (02:05:06):
You gotta have a fall guy. Yeah, but then I
gotta payoff Chris, I gotta payoff I low. I mean
I did bring donuts, so there are donuts that they
can consume. But I mean that that's that's a very
cheap payoff. I gotta I gotta would think these are
men with you know, if they are, their integrity is
for sale. It costs more than a cheap donut. Isaac

(02:05:28):
shaking his head, Gun, Nah, donut'll do it.

Speaker 2 (02:05:31):
Remember, you don't have to You don't have to like
bid a ton of money. You just have to outbid
Shae Like she's gonna be your competition. So like, all
you gotta do is outspend Shay on that. And if
if there's anything we learned, like Cha's over here debating
whether or not he even wants to go to a
you know, a playoff baseball game because he doesn't want
to spend the Casha's a little cheap.

Speaker 1 (02:05:51):
Frugal, So frugal that's the good word. By the way.
The other point to make for those that are unaware,
free food in radio is the greatest currency you have.
Sometimes may actually have a greater value than the paycheck
that you receive every two weeks. And I don't mean
that literally but figuratively. Yeah, maybe literally. Sometimes we're here

(02:06:12):
at the tire rack dot Com, Fox Sports Radio studios,
at Jason Fitz where you find him on Twitter, find
me over at Swollen Home. But this Jacksonville and Bears game,
Jacksonville now a slight favorite once again, and we talked
about it a little bit earlier in the show, but hey,
the audience is always changing. And kickoff in twenty two
minutes to get those fantasy lineup, pick sets, the pick

(02:06:32):
six DraftKings, all of that stuff, get them in, get
them on, get them over, get him in kind of thing.
But for Caleb Williams, a big spotlight game, even if
it is early in the morning, a standalone game against
Jacksonville where we talked about it. Doug Peterson now the
favorite in the clubhouse to be the next coach fired,
and we're still trying to figure out what Trevor Lawrence

(02:06:55):
is at this point in his career. He's got his contract,
so he's there and he's he makes some throws Jason
that you know watching him the last couple of weeks,
like all right, that's that's a big boy throw, you know,
tight windows whatever, and then it'll have wide open receivers downfield.
And we've seen this with a number of quarterbacks. He's
certainly not alone in this. And I could do this

(02:07:17):
like the end of a cable movie where I have
a list of names going by really fast of guys
that are missing big time throws. That for you and
me and and folks watching them, all right, walk me through,
how did you miss that? You're supposed to be the
best of the best. Where's the accuracy, where's the pinpoint
precision there? It hasn't been there. So against a Bears

(02:07:38):
defense that's that's been pretty darn good. They are missing Brisker.
But you know, an opportunity for Chicago to tack on
another win in a spotlight performance with the offense just
getting better.

Speaker 2 (02:07:50):
Yeah, for Chicago, you're getting a little momentum. For Jacksonville,
everything's just falling apart. And you know, I feel like
you could take a shot anytime somebody talks about identity.
But realistically, we know the identity of good football teams.
Right now, I think we also sort of know the
identity of bad football teams. And the Jags are that
right now, the identity of the Jags football team. You've

(02:08:12):
got a quarterback that seems to be, for whatever reason,
having some issues with a ball placement. Got a quarterback
that's not necessarily playing efficient football. I love to use
that word with quarterbacks. And you have a defense it's
absolutely gougeable. So if you're the Jags man, you're not
in a great situation right now. If you look at
it and say, hey, this is what we're going to
hang our hat on, this is what we can do

(02:08:33):
well to win football games. I don't think that's an
easy question to answer for Jacksonville, and it is for
the Bears, even though they're still growing, you know exactly
how they're intending to win football games. So the lack
of identity, the lack of culture, the lack of efficiency,
all of these things together with Jacksonville just makes it
feel like they're free falling and we're just waiting for
the inevitable replacement a head coach who will then inevitably

(02:08:55):
be trying to win this job long term. And it's
just another year lost. This is just another year loss
on a prospect. With Trevor Lawrence, it was so good
that I remember standing on the sidelines his freshman year
at Clemson covering him at the time, and everybody saying,
you know what, he should sue the NFL to get
the rules changed so he could go into the league.
Right now, he's gonna be the best sense lway and

(02:09:18):
none of that. Like, it's just it's I don't I
think the Jags have failed Trevor Lawrence, but I think
right now Trevor Lawrence is also failing the Jags and
that's just a tough spot to be in for your quarterback. Yeah,
I think.

Speaker 1 (02:09:28):
And it's also the games have been gettable, Like that's
been I think the hardest thing going back. We talked
about it briefly earlier, the loss at Miami to start
the season. Then what was wow, just a miserable slog
that eighteen thirteen loss to Cleveland. Right, So there you go.
You got two losses by eight points. Then you lose

(02:09:50):
and get absolutely obliterated by Buffalo. Okay, Houston, you gave
the game away. So you've got three of your first
four games if you could close things out because ad leads,
they had opportunity and they all slipped away. Like we
were talking about back in hour one long time ago.
If you've been with us this morning, we appreciate you

(02:10:10):
hanging out talking about USC and their inability to close
out right and again you reasons slash excuses depending on
which side you want to come down. Ultimately, a loss
is a loss, and that's.

Speaker 2 (02:10:25):
The hardest part. You know, When you're a good football
team and you lose, the coach stands up and says, hey,
we are who our record is. When you're a bad
football team and you lose, the coach and the players
come out and say, we're just one or two plays away.
We're just one or two plays away. And it's amazing
how we shift that narrative to be whatever seems to
be the best for building forward. The fact is oversimplification.

(02:10:49):
Bad teams find a way to win. Good teams find
a way to lose. Sorry said that wrong. Good teams
find a way to win. Bad teams find a way
to lose. You do it, man. At this point, you
sort of are who you are if you're losing a
bunch of close football games, because news flash, the NFL
is meant to be close football games every single week.
So you can either be the Chiefs or you can
be the Browns. You can either be the Chiefs or

(02:11:11):
you can be the Jackson. I keep using the Chiefs
because all they do is win close games, and at
some point that's not lucky. That's just part of the
wiring of who you are.

Speaker 1 (02:11:20):
He's Jason Fitz. I'm Mike Carmin. It's Fox Football Sunday,
Foxsports Radio fromthe tirerac dot Com, Fox Sports Radio Studios
at Jason Fitz on Twitter. Find me over at Swollen Dome.
As we continue, I've got a nice little random story
from my cousins as they chronicle their journey watching the
Bears and Jaguars in London pregame, trying to get to

(02:11:42):
their seats a little bit of an adventure, so we'll
tell you about that coming up next. We'll also go
through the some of the other big matchups on the slate.
We got one with a nice tasty over under a
fifty two. I think you know where we're headed. Big
big game means a big total on the board. Yeah,
that's it, a battle of it would be NFC contenders.

(02:12:04):
We'll do that next here on Fox Sports Radio, cruising
along with you this morning on a beautiful Fox Football Sunday.
Ten minutes to kick off, get those fantasy lineup set,
get those picks in Mike garment alongside Jason Fitz. We're
having a blast with you. It's a moving so fast.
Now you're gonna sing, You're gonna serenade the audience globally.

Speaker 2 (02:12:25):
No no, no, for money. I'm kidding, I'm kidding.

Speaker 1 (02:12:28):
Oh okay, Well there you go.

Speaker 2 (02:12:31):
At Jason Island for money, I sing for fun.

Speaker 1 (02:12:34):
Fantastic, well a little bit of both. On your Twitter
account at Jason Fitz. Go figure out what he's got
popping there. All the latest on his musical journey, his
fitness journey, ponderings on the meaning of life, and hating
Shay and I for the procurement of donuts this morning.
All of that can be had me over at Swollen Dome.

(02:12:55):
If you've got fantasy lineups questions, you can get those
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(02:13:17):
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I wanted to give you a little anecdote. My cousin's
off in London for this Bears game. Here Jason, and

(02:13:38):
this was the latest text I got, saying that they've
already seen five Brady Bucks jerseys, one guy that had
fabricated a Bears onan And then they took a freight
elevator to a suite area. And when they were asking
how to get out, the security lady just said, eat
as much as you can because it's free. Oh, we're

(02:14:00):
not supposed to be here. We really need to know
how to get to our seats. Like take some food
with you, take it to go bag. There you go.

Speaker 2 (02:14:07):
I kind of like I kind of dig that. Yeah,
like I love the idea of it was free.

Speaker 1 (02:14:12):
I mean, he just kind of wander in. It's like
they put out a spread. Evidently the people had not
come into the suite yet that were supposed to be there,
so she said, help yourselves.

Speaker 2 (02:14:21):
I will be get off my long guy. Though, I
for a moment just about live events in general. I
never understood when people went to concerts when I was touring,
and they got so smashed going to the concert that
they had to be you know, taking out on a
wheelchair stretcher from amphitheaters. Happens all the time. We used
to have a running bet sometimes on how many people

(02:14:43):
we would see get helped out because they were too drunk.
And I always looked at it and thought, Man, if
you're coming to this concert and you're gonna get that smashed,
why not just stay at home and like play the
CD instead nowadays like turn on Spotify instead. Why not
just sit at home, drink a case of cheaper beer,
get tanked, and to listen to the show or watch
it on YouTube. I don't understand. I also don't understand.

(02:15:04):
And this is the danger of anything free in the stadium.
Like I don't know how to say no to something
that's free. No sure drink. So like, if you walk
me into this area, like the bridge Stone Arena down
in Nashville has the Lexus Lounge, and if you get
the Lexus Lounge ticket, man, that's like unlimited food and
drink and the number of my friends that are just
too hammered to be able to consume a hockey game
after that. Always look at that thing. That's a little

(02:15:26):
it's a little off to me, Like, you know, we
spent the time and the money to get the tickets
come down here like we should. At least I'm all
in for, you know, if you want to have one
or two, but I think you've got to be at
least sober enough to know why you're there. While you're there,
I just get off your long, guy. I just don't
understand it.

Speaker 1 (02:15:41):
No, I understand that is all valid, and certainly from
the enjoyment part of it. You know, gluttony is one
of our vices, and certainly we go through it. You know,
folks cut and get loose in all different ways. Right,
you talked about being California sober earlier. You know, sometimes
that leads to bad decisions with chip bags and other

(02:16:05):
fast food events.

Speaker 2 (02:16:07):
One of the things when I started my fitness journey
and they were like, hey, you can't, you can't drink,
And I was like, all right, that's fine if I
can't drink, but you know, I'm still gonna I'm still
gonna party, right, and they're like, yes, you you still
want to, you know, have your edible of fun. You can,
but you cannot snack after you've had any. And so
I had to make this conscious decision of it's either

(02:16:28):
go completely just all in, or it's give myself the
discipline to not eat. So I never I never partake
until it's the end of the night and I've already
had my food allotment for the day. I'm an into
my evening fast period and then once I have it, it's
only water after that. I have trained myself to enjoy
only sparkling water. After I am a I have a

(02:16:50):
few edibles into my evening. It's it's been transformative. It's
taken it's taken a while to do that, because all
you need is one chip. Like one chip turns into
four backs of chips. And that's just the way.

Speaker 1 (02:17:00):
See as you went through that whole thing, I thought
it was a new edition of And that's one to
grow on. Meg. I've Detroit three point favorites on the
road at Dallas fifty two is the over under the
Detroit Lions. David Montgomery celebrating himself a brand new contract
one of my favorite ex Bears, even though he stayed

(02:17:20):
in division. He's got the right coach and temperament and
everything for what they want to do offensively. And we
look at this one for Jared Goff and company on
the road to Dallas. Dallas missing a couple other big components.
Bland also not in the defensive backfield, no Lawrence, no Parsons,

(02:17:43):
should be an opportunity to deal. So I think we,
at least on the surface here have ourselves a making
of a nice old fashioned shootout.

Speaker 2 (02:17:53):
Yeah, this is one of those rare times where you
feel like hammer the over hammer individual over zone props.
If you've got players in the fantasy spectrum that are
in this game, this is a home run for you. Congratulations.
I genuinely am curious on if either defense can really
step up and stop the other offense. So, you know,
Detroit obviously wheeling a deal and it can score from

(02:18:14):
absolutely anywhere. Dallas becomes kind of curious to me. I
just I think the Dallas is going to be able
to move the football. We know that. I mean, Seattle
absolutely move the football. It will. I think Dallas should
be able to move the football. But if they can't,
these these rumblings of a one dimensional offense being the
death of the Cowboys are going to become yells. They're
gonna become screams. And rightfully so, this feels like the

(02:18:37):
opportunity win or lose. The Cowboys got to get right,
they got to start. We have to see their offense
start to click. Otherwise I think we're going to go
in full whatever panic mode, like where Kermit the Frog
is running around with there's arms flailing in the air.
That's gonna be Jerry Jones by the end of this
game if it doesn't go right. And by the way,
I just think also it's time to acknowledge, no matter
what we think of the brands, and no matter the

(02:18:59):
history of the teams, all these other teams are things,
the Lions are the better team. The Lions should win
this football game.

Speaker 1 (02:19:05):
Note to self ad screaming Kermit the Frog sounder to
board note noted we'd be remiss. We've got Chris Burfette
with us at Pride of Detroit, at Chrisprophet where you
find him in the Twitter verse. Since we have this
big game in our lap, you cover this squad, big game,

(02:19:25):
big opportunity here for you. In week six.

Speaker 6 (02:19:28):
Yeah, they're coming off of bye week, they've been trying
to get healthy out of that, and it looks like
everyone's kind.

Speaker 1 (02:19:33):
Of good to go in that regard.

Speaker 4 (02:19:35):
I agree with Fitz.

Speaker 6 (02:19:36):
There is this, like, you know, question about how the
Cowboys are one dimensional. It's going to be going up
against what is for the Lions, a young secondary that,
especially for Terry and Arnold, has been very penalized, which
might allow the may allow the Cowboys to stick around
this game. But I think you're right, like this is
the Lions are the better team right now. They're the
more complete team. They certainly love running the football, and

(02:19:59):
they're going to try to jam it down the throat
of the Cowboys here. And Jared Goff's coming off a
game one of the first quarterbacks ever to have eighteen
for eighteen, a complete perfect game from a quarterback. It's
kind of, I mean, weird things happen in Dallas, especially
when the Lions play there and the refs get involved,
it seems.

Speaker 1 (02:20:18):
But oh, look at that. I'm just saying, he just
he just had to get the refs in. You see that.
Come on, you.

Speaker 4 (02:20:24):
Tell me, you tell me it's not true.

Speaker 2 (02:20:26):
It's not true.

Speaker 4 (02:20:27):
No, I know it's not true.

Speaker 6 (02:20:28):
But it's either way. But it's just a good talk
to get back. I'm not saying it goes one way
or the other. I'm just saying weird gremlins tend to happen.
So you know, never say never, and you always want
to go the opposite way sometimes when you see a
lock in the NFL. But hard to root to get,
hard to say it's not the Lions game to win here.

Speaker 1 (02:20:45):
No, absolutely to eighty three the over under for Prescott's
passing yards golf at two forty five and a half.
On the receiving side of things, Ceedee Lamb, your leader
in the clubhouse for expectations today, eighty eight and a
half receiving yards. I think I'd be looking down at
a price shot a little bit, and I got to
find him. Where he's at on my board is Tolbird.

(02:21:05):
He's at forty five and a half. When we start
looking at the secondary, as Chris laid out there, where
you've got some youthful situations and you've got like Ceedee
Lamb should have bracket coverage, right, Yeah, he'll probably have
Carlton Davis on them.

Speaker 2 (02:21:21):
Yeah, yeah, Well, Terry and Arnold I hope they spent
the last two weeks making in practice with like fortys
taped to his hands or something like anything that keeps
him from clutching, because my god, I mean, I think
you were kind in talking about the penalties and we're
just talking about absolute grab grab, grab grab for Terry,
and I thought coming out he was a really good prospect.
I'm really excited for who he can be in the league.

(02:21:42):
But certainly the jump for him has meant a jump
in holding, and it's just it's happening too often in
too many games, at too many key positions where he's
out of position so to present and prevent himself from
getting absolutely torts, he's just grabbing cloth and that's just
that's not going to hold up. He's going to get
a pew if he doesn't fix that.

Speaker 6 (02:22:01):
I guess part of that is like do you really
want a guy burning you or are you just going
to take the penalty if you're really burned that way?
But yeah, there is a certain point. It's like it's
a rookie quarterback in the NFL. Adjustments are needed, and brother,
you're not in the SEC anymore. You really can't get
away with some grabby stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:22:16):
There you go. Check out everything he's got going at
Bride in Detroit at Chris Prefet. Thank you, Chris, our
technical producer. We've got Shay our executive producer, and Jason
over tagging in for Kevin Wyert. We've got our guy,
a legend himself. It's our guy, Isaac loewenkron I Loo.
What's happening?

Speaker 5 (02:22:34):
Cheerio, pit, Pip and all that sort of thing, because
we're moments away from kickoff in London, the one and
four Jacksonville Jaguars against the three and two Chicago Bears
at London's Tottenham Hotspur Stadium, which is located within one
thousand feet of no less than nine pubs by the way,

(02:22:57):
let's go, including the coach and horses, the corner pin,
the olive branch, and the bricklayers, so plenty of options
for fans of the Jacksonville Jaguars later today, Allegedly, in
college football on Saturday night, third ranked Oregon defeated number
two Ohio State thirty two to thirty one. Oregon's Atticus

(02:23:19):
Sappington the game winning nineteen yard field goal with one
forty seven to play. Eighth ranked Tennessee over Florida in
overtime twenty three to seventeen. Number thirteen LSU defeated ninth
ranked Ole Miss at overtime twenty nine twenty six. Seventeenth
ranked Boise State a twenty eight to seven victory at Hawaii.
Boise State running back Ashton Gents ran for two to

(02:23:40):
seventeen on thirty one carries, his third two hundred yard
rushing game of the season. Eighteenth rank Kansas State with
a thirty one to twenty eight victory at Colorado. Kansas
State's Avery Johnson the game winning fifty yard touchdown pass
to Jas Brown with two fourteen remaining in the fourth quarter.
One other note about this game, Colorado star running back

(02:24:01):
and defensive back Travis Hunter had to leave.

Speaker 4 (02:24:04):
The game due to a shoulder injury. Fellas all yours.

Speaker 1 (02:24:08):
Ilo, Before you go, Jason Fitz, are you aware of
ILO's other responsibilities? Not only is he running around with
the Chargers and does a lot of pre and halftime
and post and all of that fun stuff, he's also
doing play by play for Angel City FC the NWSL
And last night he had a call that went viral

(02:24:29):
because you had a return of alleged ilo. We do
the honors. We want to show off the versatility of
our squad. We got Chris doing stuff with with Detroit,
so you get the honors here.

Speaker 5 (02:24:40):
Well, thank you Mike much much appreciated. And just to
give you a quick setup, Angel City last night at
North Carolina needed a win to keep its playoff hopes alive.
They were scoreless and the final seconds of second half
stoppage time. And the person you're about to hear, two
time World Cup champion Kristin Press, coming off of torn
acl and four surgeries. That's the background to that. And

(02:25:02):
there will also be a twist coming up. But listen,
North Carolina's balding Angil City end not anymore. Jasmine Spencer
took it away to Rodriguez. Rodriguez at the center circle
back to Zellem Selim or the nice move around oh
Suliman had other nice move by Zellim. Here comes Candy
Zellam down the middle. Flare's it took Press, Preston Press
white point of the area of par angel City cuts

(02:25:24):
to a left left foot and shot.

Speaker 1 (02:25:25):
Star the quite as back the quateest back. The quita
saved this season.

Speaker 5 (02:25:34):
Now the twist is Just about a minute later, North
Carolina scored a goal on the last kick of the game.
It ended in a tie, damaging Angel City's playoff hopes
and once again.

Speaker 4 (02:25:44):
Leaving me a broken man.

Speaker 2 (02:25:48):
Exactly.

Speaker 5 (02:25:48):
That was the exact audio. But a great moment for
a moment. Nonetheless, Now the queen is back. Queen's back.

Speaker 1 (02:25:56):
You did, have you approached kurbatism?

Speaker 2 (02:26:01):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (02:26:01):
Okay? Owing back to the screaming, oh right, it's see
just short callback mat eyes a glowing crown. Check out
the video to go piggy.

Speaker 2 (02:26:14):
He did, okay, okay, he.

Speaker 1 (02:26:15):
Went, only hey, look you lean into the bit.

Speaker 2 (02:26:19):
I said that I send that little meme or Jeff
whatever of Kermit running around with his arms flailing all
the time. It's one of my favorite you know that.
And the the poof of g Littergiff for my two
leg go ts. And by the way, it's Jiff, not
gift for anyone that wants to try correct me. It's
it's Jiff. And the reason it's Jeff is the guy

(02:26:40):
that actually invented the technology. When he was given an award,
walked up and his acceptance speech for inventing the technology
was literally just it is pronounced Jeff, that's all he said.
And look, people may not like that, but if you
invented it, you get to name it.

Speaker 4 (02:26:56):
He was wrong, he was still wrong.

Speaker 2 (02:26:57):
If my parents named me j a son, but tell
you it's Hayson, then you're gonna have to call me
hay soon, even if it sounds stupid. All right, So
that's just the way it's gonna go, he said, Jeff,
Therefore it's Jiff. You invent the technology. Turn the page
in the book. You get to tell everyone how it's.

Speaker 1 (02:27:12):
Yeah, but as we know, things change if it starts
getting used in culture differently, Like, look, how many words
do we have that now have the complete opposite meaning
of what's what they did ten years ago?

Speaker 2 (02:27:23):
I mean, we could do better, be better with something that's
very recent that frankly, the inventor is still alive.

Speaker 1 (02:27:29):
On I mean this, Yeah, he had a good run.
You got credit for it. Let's move on, Hey, let's
get back in the NFL. The game is underway. Bears
punt on their first possession, Trevor Lawrence getting ready to
take over. But and I appreciated all the Bears showing
up as peaky blinders. It's a nice little thing if
you haven't watched the show, I'll go do it. A

(02:27:50):
movie's coming, Killy and Murphy getting it done. But the discussion,
right the Commission always does is a state of the
Union kind of thing whenever we start international stuff, because
you know, you got to be front and center as
a big shot. And look, they're gonna ratify Brady as
part owner of the Raiders on Tuesday. Cool checkbox, Move

(02:28:11):
it on. But we talked a little bit earlier in
the show bring It Back Here, talking internationally of the
potential of a Super Bowl going overseas and handwringing about it.
We talked about just the in season games and feelings
about those, the loss of a home game for squads,

(02:28:33):
the ability to travel, like you start weighing pros, cons
et cetera time of day that maybe you got to
get up a little bit earlier to watch your squad
go overseas and everything else. But for the international thing
for a Super Bowl, I chuckle because people are gonna
get really mad and this will be a talking point
throughout the week. I have no doubt. So let's jump
on it first. And I'll just get ahead of it

(02:28:56):
by saying all anybody does is tell me how super
Bowls are too expensive and they'd rather watch it on
their big watch whatever sporting event on their big screen
TV and buy their snacks anyway, So this shouldn't This
is a non starter for all of America. I can't
tell you the number of friends like, Oh, my team's
finally gonna make it. It's like, well, you haven't made it
in thirty years. You put a little bit of money. No, no, no,

(02:29:19):
I didn't you know that kind of thing. It's like
saving for the rainy day when your team finally actually
gets good for the super Bowl, Like it's all about
a cash grab. And think about the actual artists, Like
depending on where that which stadium it's in, you know,
you could get the hometown a bunch of English performers
mixed there in.

Speaker 2 (02:29:37):
Look, I actually think you're a thousand percent right. Who
cares where the super Bowl is? I At some point,
I think the only thing that would be really difficult
for the super Bowl is if they move it internationally.
The time change will make it a very weird kickoff
time in whatever city it's in, depending on what city
the Sure put it in, that would be that'd be
difficult because they're not going to move it off of

(02:29:57):
the usual time that it plays on Super Bowl Sunday.

Speaker 1 (02:30:00):
So tell me that stadium full of people won't rally.
Oh god, yeah right, because the week ahead they're going
to get parties all over the place. And think about
the locals that you can have.

Speaker 2 (02:30:09):
Well, I was stunned the first time I ever was
around a Super Bowl. Even before I was doing this,
I was just a little podcast trying to make it.
And I remember going up and thinking the day of
the game, you know, and I'm just going to see
if I can get a last second ticket, And even
last second, as kickoff was approaching, tickets were still five
six thousand dollars for nosebleed terrible seats. So realistically, if

(02:30:30):
you can go to a Super Bowl, if you can
afford a Super Bowl knowing that your team doesn't even
qualify for it until right before, if you could afford
those last second tickets, then you can probably also afford
the last second plane ticket that's going to get you there.
Who cares? Who cares if it's in London? Who cares
it's if it's in Croatia? For all, I can't. I
don't care where they play the Super Bowl. I care
a lot more about a regular season game that really

(02:30:52):
puts fans out in my mind and takes a home
game away. Now, if you tell me that my option
is a permanent team in London or an international series
where there are games every week internationally, I would much
rather and I think it's much more realistic to take
the International series. A team in London that they talk
about every few years just doesn't make a lot of

(02:31:12):
sense to me from a million different spots, not the
least of which is athlete taxation and what it would cost,
what the team would have to be done with the
salary cap, what they'd have to do with adjusting the
dollars and cents overall, paying the Queen, all of these things.
I just think there's logistics behind London that people don't
ever want to consider it, and I can only when

(02:31:33):
you tour internationally, you find out quickly that if in
your lifetime, for example, you've ever made more than ten
thousand dollars in Canada, when you work in Canada, you
have to pay Canadian tax on top of American tax.
And this is a real thing that athletes deal with
all the time, and it's the reason why you know,
if you're a major league baseball player, your deal for
Toronto looks different than it would if your deal was
in Texas. You know, it's just a reality. Now, start

(02:31:55):
looking at football teams and the amount of money that
would be spent up there. If you're talking about England,
that would be international tax alone would be suffocating. So
I don't think there's ever going to be an international team.
So if I have to make that choice, I'll take
an international series. But who cares about the Super Bowl?

Speaker 1 (02:32:09):
Yeah, it's always been a curiosity to me about state
income taxes and how much a fight is. But since
the Players Association can't really agree on much of anything
of substance, every time they go to the bargaining table, Hey,
would you guys like an extra half day off and
a bag of chips? Yes? Please? Okay, sign here. I mean,
that's really what we get to in all of these

(02:32:29):
CBA negotiations as it were. Yeah, I went to Super
Bowl once I saw the hated Packers actually win, and
that was not cheap. But I made a promise and
I kept through on that promise, and it was arguably
one of the finest sporting events I've ever attended. Even
if the wrong team won. There you go, Packers, So yeah, Packers,

(02:32:52):
Steelers at Jerryville.

Speaker 2 (02:32:55):
I don't know. To me, there's just something about my god.
I mean, this year with Yahoo being in vegae Us
all week and covering the Super Bowl, there's something about
the entire experience that it's just stinking incredible.

Speaker 1 (02:33:05):
Oh no, it's it's certainly. I'd relish every minute and
been blessed to do this for a while, and every
once in a while we get out on the road.
The people you meet, the fans you meet next level stuff,
and that's part of what this London event does. I mean,
you even have chairman McCaskey taking selfies with fans who
normally would be writing him hate mail. I mean, that's

(02:33:26):
the kind of love this stuff brings out. He's Jason
fitz on Mike Carmen coming up next. We're gonna wrap
it up here from the tire Raq dot Com Fox
Sports Radio Studios. A couple of quick hitter games that
we need to get to before we give way to
countdown to kickoff. We'll do that next year on Fox.
Dodging the proverbial bullet in London, Jaguars take the three

(02:33:47):
to nothing lead a throw to the end zone off
the chest of the intended receiver. It look like Trevor
Lawrence had of Solvin easy one, not so fast a
drop as the Bears will take the ball for this
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(02:34:31):
get you set up for Week six. And a little
bit of college football reaction because I gotta imagine Jason
Fitz that Jeff Schwartz will probably be peacock in a
little bit about ten minutes from.

Speaker 2 (02:34:41):
Now, rightfully, so, I wonder how many people hit Jeff
up for a hookup to that one, Like I just
feel like.

Speaker 1 (02:34:48):
Over under forty two and a half.

Speaker 2 (02:34:53):
Oh, I'll take I'll take the under, but not by much.
Like I feel like that's a good number. You should
work in Vegas. Last Bill what he thinks of that number?

Speaker 1 (02:35:02):
A bit aggressive, But you know, it's one of those
things where you think you've got an end for the game,
game of the week, game of the year. Not quite sure,
but you want to talk about meme worthy plenty of it,
including the final play. Certainly bad decisions. I mean that's
the want to get away kind of thing. You should

(02:35:23):
sign an nil with Southwest. But also the fact that
you had all the graphics of lead changes in the
back and forth, and it's everything we love about sports
like encapsulated in that game and really across the slate
on Saturday, all that we love. Some that are confusing,
the fact that Texas wanted to stick a flag through

(02:35:45):
a Baker Mayfield jersey was still kind of odd. I mean,
Baker's been gone a minute.

Speaker 2 (02:35:53):
Those are the moments too, that I look at it
and say, who's your network, your group where somebody can
say that's a bad idea. If you don't have somebody
in your friend group that can tell you when you
have a terrible idea, you need to get that person.
If you don't have somebody in your business group that
can tell you that's a terrible idea, you need to
get that person, like somebody. Okay. It's what I always
say about just in general. Like in the music business,

(02:36:14):
when you hear a terrible song on the radio, remember
that somebody wrote it and turned it in and they're like,
that's a great song. And then an artist was like, Oho,
I want to I want to record that song, and
a management company was a God, that's a hit, and
the record labels like, oh God, we got to put
this out. All of a sudden, it goes to radio
stations to start playing it, Like it takes a lot
of stupid people to make a bad song hit the world.
And I look at that and I'm like, it takes
a lot of really, really, really uninformed people to turn

(02:36:37):
around and decide that that idea was a good one.
But putting the flag through the Baker Jerseys just felt
it felt out of place. Petty. I'm in for Petty.
I'm just not out and out of place. Petty doesn't
make a lot of sense.

Speaker 1 (02:36:47):
There you go, if you do like a little bit
of Patty and remember as one of the promos use
the line pettiness knows no tax bracket like death. I
bastardized my own phrase. But the idea of if you
like a little bit of Tom Betty the series Bad Monkey,
which just finished its first season, worth a binge for you,

(02:37:09):
little Vince Vaughan action down in the Everglades. All right,
let's heard of this Apple Plus.

Speaker 2 (02:37:17):
I can't keep up again. I'm old man. I can't
keep up with these sis. I gotta get Apple Plus now, Like.

Speaker 1 (02:37:21):
Yeah, no, you got to. I'll tell you about some
business dealings that they had. No question, we didn't do
really any Jets because, let's face it, I do the
show with Jason Smith. During the week, I talked about
the Jets a lot, Buffalo New York and Buffalo versus
the Jets. Two and a half points spread forty one
is the total in this one Jets with Downing calling

(02:37:45):
the plays. Is that enough to fix things?

Speaker 2 (02:37:49):
No? Look, we didn't talk enough about the Jets because
the Jets suck.

Speaker 1 (02:37:53):
Like, yeah, there we go.

Speaker 2 (02:37:55):
We did talking about the Jets because we've spent how
long talking about Aaron Rodgers when he wasn't even on
a field and then he gets on a field and
we realize that maybe he's not playing well enough to
deserve to be talked about it anymore. And then Aaron
Rodgers comes out and says that he is insulted by
the implication that he had anything to do with any
of this or any knowledge, when in fact, he sits
in front of a microphone on one of the biggest

(02:38:16):
shows in the world and never says anything that would
stop these implications. I so tough. I'm exhausted. I have
Jets fatigue, because when teams are as bad as the Jets,
you're not supposed to talk about him anymore. They just suck.

Speaker 1 (02:38:28):
I did a really good job. I limited that to
two minutes. I will also challenge you go back and
watch that clip of Aaron Rodgers and then play Bill
Clinton from back in the day. Tell me that the
cadence is not the same.

Speaker 2 (02:38:41):
He should have been Vice President Rodgers.

Speaker 1 (02:38:43):
That's what we got out hang Out. We got Chargers
in Denver, we got Spencer Rattler trying to solve the Buccaneers.
More young quarterbacks as we go through a full slate
of NFL action coming up next at Jason Fitz, where
you find him. Find me over at Swollen Doome Fun
for four hours countdown to kick Off, presented by BETMGM.

(02:39:03):
Coming up next here on Fox Sports Radio. Thanks to
the team, Thanks for all of you out there for listening.
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