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Speaker 5 (01:49):
So first let's start with this, fellas.
Speaker 7 (01:52):
I had the opportunity to sit down with the greatest
of greats at the receiver's position. I'm sure you guys
love this. This week's legend moment, Jerry Rice.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Gay conversations with a legend, and now this is your
legendary moment.
Speaker 7 (02:14):
I got one more question for you before I let
you go this and this should be this should be
a fun one.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
I listen.
Speaker 7 (02:19):
I know there's been the age old debate for some
reason between you and Randy, but I'm not gonna hit
you with that one.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
I'm not gonna hit you with that one. I'm gonna
hit you with another one.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 7 (02:31):
It's Tom Brady, the goat of goats when there's Joe
want Now. I know he's been in more Super Bowls, Yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah, And I know he's got I.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Know he's got.
Speaker 7 (02:41):
But from your perspective, could Tom Brady have done what
he did in this era of football, in the era
of football that you and Joe did what y'all did
two different eras?
Speaker 6 (02:52):
Uh huh?
Speaker 8 (02:53):
And guy, you know, there have been so much debating
going back and forth and stuff like that, but I
just feel that, you know, Tom Brady was incredible what
he did back in the day, and to win seven
Super Bowls and all of that.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
But the quarterback.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
Were so protected, I mean, they protected, they protected.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Montana back in the day. Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
Even if the vault was gone, he was still getting hit.
Speaker 7 (03:23):
Hold him up, hold him on, fold him up nice
and neatly, put him in the package, send him back
to the sideline. You got to fold him up back,
you got you got him one to two steps to
go ahead and thump him.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
You don't get that anymore.
Speaker 6 (03:35):
You don't get that anymore.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
So so so so so so.
Speaker 8 (03:38):
My thing is, this guy was still able to be exceptional.
Plus he had to be able to run and escape
and get out of the pocket. And you had guys
that you know, chasing him downfield and doing all those
things and trying to basically take him out of the game. Indeed,
they were hit hunting for him all the time. But
and and so I say that that, you know, Tom
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Brady exceptional, But I steel still feel like Joe Montana
is the greatest, the greatest quarterback to ever do it.
Speaker 7 (04:09):
That was Jerry Rice, the go to goats at the
wide receiver position. I mean, you could debate maybe the one,
two or three, but that was a debate on the
quarterback position and fellas you know, when you think about it,
the time in the day and age of protecting the
quarterback actually was kind of ushered in, you know with
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Tom Brady.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
I mean it was basically if you.
Speaker 7 (04:34):
Ask me, yeah, but I'd say it was direct. It
was like a direct response to when Tom Brady was
lost for a season. Like if you recall, like the
amount of intensity surrounding protecting the quarterback went to a
whole nother level when Tom Brady went out that one year.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
It went to another level when Aaron Rodgers broke his
all the bone. I believe they were playing against the
Minnesota Vikings and it was like the first couple of
games of the season. He fell on the shoulder, broke
his collar bone, and that's when everything changed. I called
the Aaron Rodgers rule.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
Wasn't it what Van didn't Van? Wasn't it Van Hoffen?
Olin Van?
Speaker 3 (05:20):
When they robbed us at that Super Bowl that nobody
was gonna stop us. Carson Palmer for like first, first
of all, hit off is a great man.
Speaker 6 (05:33):
Yeah he is. He's a great person. No, no, no,
he get off, my guy. He's not. He's a great person. Man.
You know what, you know what.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Game when he fell on him, he actually stood up
and actually knew what he had did because he didn't
do it on purpose.
Speaker 6 (05:53):
You know what he does.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
He stood up and he told the people to come on.
He didn't do he didn't do it on purpose. Don't
think I don't know, No, no, no one on purpose. No, no,
it wasn't on purpose. But that that that was the season.
Bro Our defense played extremely well that season. Offensively, nobody
was stopping us. Manager. It wasn't meant to be. Man,
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it wasn't meant to be.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
Brady got injured the same way.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Didn't he have my very similar, very similar the rule started.
The change started with Carson. They just went above and
beyond on Brady and it, yeah, above and beyond it and.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
It has made it.
Speaker 7 (06:31):
And I just got to be honest, like in my mind,
I'm just real quick, like, no, it's Tom Brady.
Speaker 6 (06:36):
It's easy.
Speaker 7 (06:36):
But if you really debate the physicality of what Joe
Montana had to deal with and the type of players
that was out there, like that was when.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
The Serengetty was really the Serengetty.
Speaker 7 (06:47):
Like, if you asked me, that was the golden era
of football? Was that time period with with Joe Montana
and and Jerry Rice and all those you know, all
those great you know teams, whether it was Dallas even
you know, even the Bengals and even the Buffalo Bills
and the Steelers. You think about the type of defenders
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that were out there going against those those mega receivers.
I mean even in Detroit, you know, you had really
really talented, gifted receivers you had. It was a great
era for quarterbacks as well, but they were allowed to
get hit. They were allowed to get hit like I
was a part of the last group of guys that
were actually allowed to hit quarterbacks. But it's funny because
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I started getting fined. This is a true story. I
started getting fined for plays that weren't even penalties on
the field. They weren't even penalties. They were sending me fines.
I got fined fifteen thousand dollars one time in a
preseason game because I hit Brad Johnson too hard.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
It's true story.
Speaker 7 (07:57):
They started legislating the physical against quarterbacks probably.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
What and oh three oh three maybe.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Yeah, they really got serious about it five oh six,
and then by two thousand and nine and ten.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
And it happened in two thousand and seven. The Green
Bay Packers were playing in Green Bay and if you
go back and look at this player, Anthony Baarr drove
Annon Rodders into the ground after he throw the football.
That is when everything changed in the league. And it
was seven years ago.
Speaker 7 (08:33):
Well, I'll tell you this, Tom Brady did play in
a time where you could get hit because hell, bletche
got knocked the hell out.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
And that's what yeh.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Do you remember that game tom Brady was scramming outside
of parking in Buffalo with somebody.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
Damn it took his head off.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
Remember that. I do remember that.
Speaker 7 (08:52):
There were moments in time where tom Brady had to
deal with the physicality of the game, but it certainly
was not to the degree, not to the level.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Oh no, we're not talking at the eighties. The eighties
was a whole different.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Say, this is the thing, though tom Brady played half
of his career almost when you can just decapitated quarterback,
and then the second half of his career. The rules
have changed. So it's not like tom Brady didn't go
through it. He went through it when.
Speaker 7 (09:19):
He had like an eight, nine, ten year period of
time where he couldn't win the Super Bowl and then
win them again.
Speaker 6 (09:27):
What how?
Speaker 3 (09:29):
But he won a Super He won super Bowls when
you could really hit a quarterback how you wanted to.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
That's because he had a defense. Let's let's be clear,
he had a defense.
Speaker 6 (09:39):
The defense wasn't good, to be honest with you. What
they wasn't that good.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
Stop that stop that.
Speaker 6 (09:46):
Be honest with you. They weren't that good.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Hey, they were a sound defensive unit. Cohes a unit together.
They were not They were not phenomenal.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Ty Long Lawyer Malloy Tylaw was good.
Speaker 6 (10:01):
Lloyd. I know he's a Hall of Famer, but.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
You mean he was good. He was great. They changed
the rules, they changed the rules on covering.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Uh. You know, you can't tell me that the New
England Patriots defense was a great defense when I have
the most touchdowns of any wide receiver of just playing
against that team.
Speaker 6 (10:27):
So you can't tell me it was great.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
But that just speaks of how good you were. Plexico.
Speaker 7 (10:31):
Don't understate or under sail what they were good. That
defense was phenomenal. They in fact, they carried them. They
carried them. Tom Brady did well, that offense did well.
But that defense of the New England Patriots the first
few Super Bowls that they won, that was their defense.
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That was the catalyst of that team. I will argue
that youth and nail, that was their defense. I don't
put that on Tom Brady's arm.
Speaker 6 (11:01):
I do not.
Speaker 7 (11:02):
I think Tom Brady was a major part of what
he needed to be on the offensive side of.
Speaker 6 (11:06):
The I do. I was there. He came into Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Game.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
You can't tell me one Tom Brady.
Speaker 6 (11:19):
You're talking about crazy.
Speaker 7 (11:24):
Hey, that's just my vantage point.
Speaker 6 (11:28):
I was a witness washing it.
Speaker 7 (11:30):
Willie Mack out there, like you know, they had some
ball players, man, they did rich no doubt, Big Seymour,
he just went into the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
I mean they had they had some guys, man, Ben
will Up.
Speaker 7 (11:42):
I mean, they had some guys on that defense, but
they had Reeves at one point. I mean, all I'm
gonna say is this, and looking at the debate, I
don't think it's clear cut because of the amount of
numbers connected to Tom Brady in terms of just saying
gets a foregone conclusion that Tom Brady gets the goat
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nod over Joe Montana. I really don't. I think that
that the eras did serve a different purpose and what
you were able to do.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
That's that's that's my take on.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
I mean, just getting back to Jerry Rice, he is
he is what every young kid wanted to be growing
up playing a wide receiver a position was Jared Rice.
I mean we all wanted to be Jerry Rice playing football,
playing the position because he was something that when you
grew up as a kid and when you saw him,
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it was like it was make believe that what he
was doing, he was what he was accomplishing.
Speaker 6 (12:39):
Man.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
And I always say people always ask me about records
and breaking records, and I always say, man, there there
are two records I believe in professional sports that arguably
probably will will never be broken. And that is Jered
Rice's touchdown record. I believe it was what one ninety
seven ever get broken, twenty two thousand yard receiving in
(13:03):
twenty years. And the other record is Bruce Smith's SACS record.
I believe in professional football. Those are two records that
may probably be broken because you know what, you have
to play twenty years to do it, and nobody's playing
twenty years anymore.
Speaker 7 (13:19):
They've got to play at a high level at the
tail end of your career to be able to get
to that. That's just those are a lot of numbers.
Those are some super super large numbers. Speaking of super
large numbers, our listeners, you know, shouts out to our
listeners because our show is doing super large numbers. We're
gonna take a break and let you sit on that
and think about that. The support you guys have been
giving us, and you might still be debating this goat
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topic that Jerry Wright said, well, Joe Montana's the goat.
I mean, yeah, of course he has a vested interest
in it, but does he.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
Have a point.
Speaker 7 (13:50):
Anyway, we're gonna talk Kevin Stefanski on the other side
of the break.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
He said, he's.
Speaker 7 (13:56):
Well, I'll let him tell y'all what he said that.
We got to sound and we're gonna get to some
up on game, down on down on game as well.
You're listening to up on Gamesplexco Burrs TJ.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
Huschmanside, I'm LeVar Arrington.
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Speaker 7 (14:25):
Yeah yeah, yeah, hit him, hand him, hand him, Oh
and up out out.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
Take rings off, take chains off, take it all off.
Whoa wait, wait, all right, my bad, never mind. Anyway, Hey,
it's up on Game.
Speaker 7 (14:42):
We are back and we are live from the tyrag
dot com studio. C. J.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
Huschman's, I's Plexico Burrs. I'm LeVar Arrington.
Speaker 7 (14:50):
As promised, we will get to up on game down
on game in about eight to nine minutes.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
But right now, let's talk Kevin Stefansk Fellas. Listen.
Speaker 7 (15:01):
He had some interesting comments to say about the Shawn
Watson and here's well, let's just listen to what he
had to say.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Why not try Jamis as a potential spark that you're
looking for.
Speaker 7 (15:13):
I think it's just important that we continue to do
everything we can to play good sound football.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
I think Deshaun gives us the best chance to win,
all right, So that abrupt stop is what I wanted.
Speaker 7 (15:28):
Because if Deshaun Watson is truly indeed the player at
quarterback that gives you the best chance to win, and
you want to put your best foot forward, why the
hell do you trade away Amari Cooper If you're talking
about putting your best foot forward and giving yourself the
(15:49):
best chance to win. They did not get something in
return that was going to make them a better team.
So now, in essence, they've lost their number one receiver
with a struggling team and largely doing part because of
the poor play of their quarterback. Now, Fellas, it begs
the question, and I'm curious as to what you guys
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think about it. Is Kevin Stefanski taking a bullet for
the team on this one.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
Is he the one that's making.
Speaker 7 (16:18):
This decision that they keep Deshaun Watson in there and
not try Jameis Winston or do you really believe that
this is what Kevin Stefanski believes and is willing to
put his coaching job on the line keeping Deshaun Watson
in there as the starting QB.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Listen man, Kevin Stefanski doesn't have to say Why does
he have to say it? Like what if he said,
y'all know what Dashaun's contract, he going to be the starter?
Would that make it better?
Speaker 5 (16:52):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (16:52):
I think we will. We all know that, we all know.
That's the reason why we all know. That's the reason.
Why Why does he have to say it? Why does
he have to say it?
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Because?
Speaker 7 (17:01):
You know what, because you're sacrificing winning because you can't.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
No, no, no, you're not listen, be done, listen, Levart.
You're sacrificing winning. So when they put Jameis Winston in,
they are gonna win.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (17:15):
No, no, no, no, no, no, we do no no no.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Has he shown has Jameis Winston shown us when he
was with the Bucks, when he was with the Saints,
that when he's in there, he's gonna win.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
I mean, no, no, be a loser.
Speaker 6 (17:29):
I mean, TJ.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
I think he hasn't shown loser.
Speaker 6 (17:32):
No, no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
He shown us that he would be markedly better than
Deshaun Watson. He has not shown us that. I gotta
I gotta say this to you.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
I don't think I've seen a witness a situation.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
It's a totally different story.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
But outside of Doug Williams win the Super Bowl and
being released by the by Washington, but Jameis Winston led
the league in y'all's passing, I believe, but.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
We also we all know he can. He hasn't played,
but he's no. He has played since he's played. He
played with in New Orleans.
Speaker 6 (18:10):
He played Noay, okay, I.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
Mean what I mean better than what Dashaun Watson's doing
right now.
Speaker 6 (18:18):
Absolutely, But we all know that.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
We all know the reason why, Like why, what's the
reason why, TJ? Because DeShawn Watson has a guaranteed contract.
Why why do you why do you need to hear that?
Why do you need to hear that?
Speaker 4 (18:33):
We all ain't no guaranteed contract guaranteed Nobody gonna start
and play every weekend.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
And that's that's to me. Now, Now that goes down
a slippery slope because if you're playing him, if if his.
Speaker 7 (18:44):
Contract is the reason why you say he gives us
the best chance to win, then Kevin Stefanski is and
and and and he's putting himself on the line for
this and his job. And two, if you do put
in a second stream quarterback, like think about doing that
in Pittsburgh and they're winning, and they're winning.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
They don't have that financial they don't have that financial situation.
Speaker 7 (19:08):
But it is still should be the first reason, the
first spot.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
They're going to do a new stadium here pretty soon.
Speaker 7 (19:15):
They just talked about confirming doing a new stadium, and
you're going to play a player that isn't giving your
team the best chance to win.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
LaVar, if you were the owner of that team, you
would do the same thing.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
Stop it.
Speaker 7 (19:28):
I want to win. I want to win, man, I
want to win. I'm not if I'm the owner of
First off, TJ. First off, if I'm the owner of
that team, I'm not doing that contract.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
That's first off, like.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Doing that contract when you're the Cleveland Browns in at
that point in time, Deshaun Watson was a top five quarterback.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
You had Baker Mayfield, you had Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Baker Mayfield is not the Baker Mayfield of today. He
was not the Baker Mayfield back he says today.
Speaker 7 (19:54):
But who's to say that he isn't the Baker Mayfield
that he is today in Cleveland. If they had just
given him some more, he wasn't bad. They went to
the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
It's so it's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback
man when we see the results of what has happened.
Speaker 6 (20:09):
Baker, Baker, Baker is good right now, Baker.
Speaker 7 (20:13):
We know this game long enough to know that that
there's a mature How many.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
People think how many people at that time would have
taken Baker Mayfield over Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
Nobody will say this, nobody.
Speaker 7 (20:24):
I'll say this at one price, tag TJ, I am
taking Baker Mayfield one hundred times.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
Out of one hundred.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
It's easy to say that now because you look at
what DeShawn is and what Baker is.
Speaker 6 (20:36):
But at that time when they made that trade.
Speaker 7 (20:38):
So when when you when you saw them bid against
themselves for Deshaun Watson, they bid against themselves. When you
saw them before they even announced what the contract was,
you didn't think that that was hitting down the road
where it was like, oh my gosh, these dudes are
about to do some really really dumb ass with what
it is that they're doing before the deal even got done,
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Before the deal even got done, and then when they
announced that he got a two hundred and what is it, thirty.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
Forty two hundred and forty million.
Speaker 7 (21:09):
Dollars fully guaranteed contract, there's not one person tej You
tell me the one person outside of you and David.
Speaker 6 (21:17):
You tell me the one.
Speaker 7 (21:18):
Person outside of y'all two that's it. Oh my god,
what an amazing deal they did. And you know what,
this is going to be great for the Cleveland Browns.
You tell me the one person that said it outside
of the two names I just gave you.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Well, there's a lot of people that nobody would have
given a guaranteed contract.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
That's like taboo in the National Football League.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
Nobody but nobody.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
And it's sad.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
It's why would they because they thought they had a
franchise quarterback.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
The fact that they.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Did too, the fact that we play we play by
far and away the riskiest sport, and we the only
professional sport that don't have the contract, and our sport
is by far the riskiest, and so I'm happy that
Deshaun was able to get that done.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
I'm not hating on the contract.
Speaker 6 (22:07):
I'm not hating on the contract.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
At that point in time, Rashawn Watson was a top
five quarterback.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
Deshaun Watson was the top five quarterback. Yes he was,
Yes it was, Yes, he was LaVar list. He was
clearly a top five quarterback.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
Know what I'm saying. I'm not debating that he was
a top five quarter by the time.
Speaker 7 (22:24):
I'm saying he was not a guarantee two hundred and
whatever million dollar contract.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
I mean, what quarterback now is other than Patrick Mahons.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
That's the point I'm making. That's the point.
Speaker 7 (22:36):
Who is nobody but hey, nobody Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
First of all, DeShawn Watson, after he came off that
forty eight forty seven whatever hundred yard season that he
had playing for the Texans, he was a top five
elite quarterback at that time.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
Come on, they did not even win.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
You would have stuck to him to continue to make
progress and get better as as the years went on,
obviously he went through what he went through, and he
hasn't been the same player since if he.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
Was the guy and doesn't have to because the Houston
Texas on him.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
TJ. You might think I'm hating on it.
Speaker 6 (23:18):
I'm not. It's the hating part of it.
Speaker 7 (23:21):
What this is me saying, why is it a situation
where he doesn't get pulled out just because he has
a guaranteed contract, Because you're you're you're costing a coach
his job, coaches their job at some point, You're costing
players their job because other players.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
Are going to be let go over this.
Speaker 7 (23:40):
You're costing a lot of people jobs because you're saying
his contract Superseds may be seeing that somebody else can
give them a better.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Do you feel that Trevor Lawrence is cast him double
Peters in his job?
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (23:54):
Hell yeah, that's another one. Yes, Trevor Lawrence should not.
I'd have his name on that bank, on that stadium,
Trevor Bank Stadium, whatever. No, get him out of there,
put him on the bench. Somebody else can try. So
Mac Jones gives him a better chance. Yeah, I don't
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think so. But I don't think that. I don't think
Trevor Lawrence is living up to the expectation of what
everybody said, everybody tried to make him, Jim L. John
Elway coming now to college and all that good stuff.
All right, listen, this this conversation is not going to
end right now. We'll probably revisit it as we do
most often when Deshaun Watson plays a game for the Cleveland.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
Brown So we'll get back to that.
Speaker 7 (24:39):
But let's get an update from Isaac low and Croft,
because I told y'all we got up on game down,
on game coming.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
So hell lo what you got well, LaVar.
Speaker 9 (24:46):
We actually begin with the Cleveland Browns because today they
officially activated four time Pro Bowl running.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
Back Nick Chubb and he can run the ball. Oh boy,
I'll say, Maara Obey can get it done on the ground.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I mean they have no time, they have no choice.
Speaker 9 (25:02):
Chubsman out since suffering a knee injury Week two of
last season, so he'll make his return tomorrow against the
Cincinnati Bengals. Arizona Cardinals head coach Jonathan Gannon announcing today
rookie receiver Marvin Harrison Junior has cleared concussion protocol. He
will play on Monday Night Football against the Los Angeles Chargers.
The Baltimore Ravens just put receiver Deontay Hardy on injury
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reserve with the knee injury. The Pittsburgh Steelers downgraded safety
Demonte Casey to questionable her Sunday Night's game against the
New York Jets because of an ankle injury. In college football,
number six Miami of twenty four to fourteen at Louisville
with one ten left to play in the second quarter,
Tenth ranked Clemson leading Virginia seventeen to ten in the
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final minute of the second quarter. Sixteenth ranked Indiana has
just gone up twenty eight to seven over Nebraska with
one h nine left in the second quarter. Nineteenth ranked
Missouri and Auburn tied at three with forty eight seconds
left in the second quarter, and finally fell as, we've
got a college football ethical conundrum to discuss with you.
(26:05):
Coming up at three point thirty Eastern, it'll be seventh
length Alabama visiting number eleven Tennessee. And with that in mind,
the popular social media site message board Geniuses found the
following post on an Alabama message board from at the
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username is at Bama one zero five to five dash
Micah Dash zero seven. Anyway, the post reads quote, Unfortunately,
one of my employees has scheduled her wedding for four
thirty today. Now I have a number of options here.
I can bring my iPad to watch the game after
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halftime at the wedding. I can fire the employee for
scheduling a wedding during football season. I can break up
with my wife for forcing me to do this. It's
also a pirate themed wedding, so not only am I
going to be missing the second half of the game,
I'm going to be dressed as.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
A pirate as well. Some prayers, y'all? What would you
do back to you?
Speaker 7 (27:11):
I got to get rid of. I mean, my wife
is is rolling on me that way. We got to ending, Okay,
Penn State. If Penn State is planning you hit me
that way, like, yeah, we just got to end.
Speaker 9 (27:22):
She'd say the same thing if the situation was reversed, right.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
LaVar, Yeah, I would assume.
Speaker 7 (27:27):
So you just don't value me, You don't value our relationship,
You don't value me if you're.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Going to force me to miss Penn State playing.
Speaker 7 (27:34):
That's all I'm gonna say, you know, I mean, there's
just certain you know, there's certain deal breakers, you know
what I mean. I know I you know, Michigan State Spartans,
maybe that's possible. You know, Oregon Oregon State Beaver is
definitely probably not possible, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
But but for me, that's a deal breaker. So that's
all I'm gonna say, you know, to y'all. You know
y'all want y'all don't want to chime in on it. Yeah, yeah,
y'all want to leave that one alone.
Speaker 7 (27:57):
First off, first off, I know your significant of TJ TJ.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
You get your You're gonna get you. You gonna get
put to sleep if you don't do what you're supposed
to do.
Speaker 7 (28:05):
So on top of that, shouts out to the homie
and plex, we ain't even gonna go there.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
You you end up in jail because that's that's real.
Speaker 7 (28:15):
Like judicial you got judicial strength on your side. So anyways,
speaking of decisions and choices, weather good or bad, let's
do something up on game down on gay, Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Nine.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Are you up on game Let's break this up. Let's
break it up down on game.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
All right, bo, what you gots? What was that going on?
Up on game?
Speaker 7 (28:42):
Down?
Speaker 5 (28:42):
On game?
Speaker 10 (28:43):
Quick, quick, recap of last week when Jonas knocks carry
Roads and he from salam fielding for you guys moving on, Yeah,
Jonas Uh, Jonas had a special request that his u
his points be applied to LeVar. So Jonas went too
and four last week.
Speaker 6 (28:56):
Yeah, I don't Jonas, Come on, Jonahs, I don't know that.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
I don't want other than that, Jonas.
Speaker 10 (29:04):
Yeah, I don't want them this week. This week we're
gonna start with the Philadelphia Eagles heading to New York
to play the Giants. I guess New Jersey to play
the Giants. The Eagles a three and a half point
favorite in this one. The point total currently seven forty
two and a half. So plax, what do you got here?
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Well, I'm ringing the bell tomorrow before the game, bringing
the team out all night, and all these things going up.
Speaker 6 (29:28):
But h you know what my boy say, Kwon Balker
is coming in with Avengers tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
I guess he is, Yes, and they I.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
Think they gonna get the ball twenty thirty times. D
Smith and AJ Brown are healthy and I gotta be honest,
you know, I gotta.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
Go with the Eagles.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
I think they cover the forty and I'm going over
the points.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
Yeah, I'm doing I'm gonna stay on that too. I'm
with that too.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
I'm gonna go, obviously the Eagles. I believe they are
the better football team. I like this New York Giants defense.
It will be a defensive struggle. I'm gonna go to
Philadelphia Eagles, but I'm gonna go under.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
All right.
Speaker 10 (30:10):
Next up, we have a huge divisional game in the
NFC North. The Lions head to Minnesota to take on
the Vikings. Vikings a one and a half point home
favorite in this one. The total currently set at fifty
and a half, So LaVar what you got here.
Speaker 7 (30:23):
I think the Detroit Lions are gonna win this game,
So I'll take money line on this one. Straight up
win for Detroit Lions, even though they're coming off of
this bad entry to Ans.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
Also in points, I'm gonna take the under.
Speaker 6 (30:38):
On the points.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
I'm gonna take the Minnesota Vikings. They are the best
team in the NFC. Win this game. I'm that will
be the best team in football. They're good on offense,
they're good on defense, eight and Hunderdson being out will
hurt them. I'm gonna take the Minnesota Vikings and I'll
go over.
Speaker 6 (30:57):
You know what, I gotta go with my got, TJ. Man.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
I don't think, I don't believe that the Minnesota Vikings
are fluke Man. They are the dark horse in the
NFC to the best team in the in the in
the conference. So I'm going over the points because it's
no defense is going to be played, and I'm taking
the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 10 (31:16):
M alright, last game here, Aaron Rodgers and his shiny
new toy DeVante Adams had to Pittsford to take on
the Steelers. Did Jets a one and a half point
road favorite in this one, which surprised me. Actually the
over under in this one currently said at thirty nine
and a reminder of everybody listening all of these odds
or courtesy of our friends over a DraftKings. So, TJ,
what do you got from me here?
Speaker 6 (31:37):
I'm taking a New York foot Of course you are.
You're such a hater. You're a hater.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
You're a I don't like because you're a terrible tower,
your hater. I didn't step on it, and I didn't
do that. I didn't do exactly. The nation still the
nation a Steeler fan, Steeler fan, and one gave me
the town. I mean, I bought it from him, but
he swed me, that's not giving it to somebody you
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bought it. I'm gonna take. I'll take the Jets and
he said it's thirty seven. Ah man, both defensive. I'm
gonna go over thirty nine. I go over Jets. Listen,
everybody know what it is. Man.
Speaker 6 (32:19):
I'm taking the.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Standard is the stands, and I'm taking the Pittsburgh still
defense against it against this supposedly supposed to be explosive
offense just because they acquired Davante Adams. I'm taking the Steelers,
but I'm going under on the points. It's gonna be
a great defensive football game.
Speaker 5 (32:36):
I'm taking under on the points and not one and
a half.
Speaker 7 (32:40):
I'm gonna take that. I'm gonna run with that. So
I'm gonna go with the What does that mean? They
won't cover like they'll they'll win it, but it won't
be more than those It was it one of that?
You say it's one of the Jets.
Speaker 10 (32:51):
One and a half points favor here, No way you
think Pittsburgh's gonna win.
Speaker 6 (32:56):
Absolutely.
Speaker 7 (32:57):
I think Pittsburgh will win, but I want to take
of points on that instead.
Speaker 5 (33:01):
Of just saying that the stealers are going to win. Yeah, okay,
so there we go. All right, do you got anymore?
Speaker 6 (33:07):
Is that it?
Speaker 5 (33:09):
I said?
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Up?
Speaker 5 (33:09):
One game? Down game?
Speaker 6 (33:10):
Thank you?
Speaker 5 (33:11):
Bo? All right, listen up, speaking of one.
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Speaker 5 (34:59):
All right, all right, Welcome back in. It is up.
Speaker 7 (35:01):
One game live from the tyrack dot com studios.
Speaker 5 (35:05):
LeVar Arrington, T. J.
Speaker 7 (35:06):
Hutchman, Zata Plexico Burst Hope you guys enjoyed the show.
Speaker 5 (35:11):
Uh yeah. Immediately following us will be Jonas Knox. He'll
be coming on and talking sports as well.
Speaker 7 (35:18):
I hope you guys are enjoying the game so far today.
Shouts out to Zimbi's for letting me come in here
and air live from from their location. I'm about to
enjoy me some uh some honey, suicide wings and some
fries the best here. But before that, yeah, bruh, with
some honey in the bad boys be banging. I'll tell
(35:42):
you somebody else who was cooking your boy, Brownie James.
Before we get up out of here, he put up
seventeen points while y'all laugh, it's the most ever ever.
It's the most app for fifty fifth pick all pick
in the preseason game.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
So he's all I mean, he put up He put
up record numbers.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
He broke a recording connect putting up record numbers.
Speaker 7 (36:15):
There are a few people out here, man talking about this.
Speaker 5 (36:18):
Dude could be better than Michael Jordan. What's y'all take
on it? Before we get up out.
Speaker 6 (36:30):
Of here, manja you got it.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Listen, man, let's let's let's let the young man get
his feet wet. Let the young man start to get
a feel for the professional game. But all you want
at this stage for him is progress, and that's what
he's making. He's progressively getting better each game. He's getting
(36:55):
more comfortable each game. And so that's all you want
to see if your coach on the Lakers staff, is
your young guys improving in each preseason game. And but
we're talking about Brownie. He's gotten better in each game,
and that's what you want to see. Seventeen points. I
don't believe he scored seventeen points in any college game
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last year. And so that is that is progress.
Speaker 6 (37:22):
And y'all and you laughing, he better lot.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
He made progress in that last game. But the four
previous games he played, he was averaged eleven minutes a game,
not many minutes he had. He averaged one point.
Speaker 5 (37:44):
Why about to say, did Steve turnover?
Speaker 4 (37:47):
He went two for sixteen in over seven from three
point range? I mean, how much better? I mean, what
else do you expect.
Speaker 6 (37:55):
Him to do? And he got better? He got right,
he got a get bad better pro Dalton connect.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Brownie James as Snoop as Snoop has uh giving him
the quainting West Side Connect that's his nick west Side,
west Side Connect. That boy Fisher he went eight for
thirteen for three is Connect carried us in that game? Man,
down the stretch. He can play thh thank you Dalton.
Connect can play.
Speaker 6 (38:19):
But yeah, he's going to points in thirty the other day.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Yeah, Brownie James is improving, man, And that's all you want.
I don't get the outrage.
Speaker 7 (38:27):
So he's going to be on the active So he
going so the active roster.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
I mean, I'm sure he'll be back and forth between
the G league and the roster because he needs reps.
Speaker 6 (38:37):
So now you're saying.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
That he scored seventeen in the preseason, So is the
preseason same as the regular season?
Speaker 6 (38:45):
We all know that's not the case. Okay, we all
know that's not the case.
Speaker 7 (38:49):
Him having that one game, that one good game in
the preseason, does that mean he's going to get playing
time regular season?
Speaker 5 (38:56):
Do you think they out there?
Speaker 3 (38:58):
I'm sure he'll get some playing time, but it won't
be much. I don't believe it'll be. The Lakers want
to win, man, like they don't need to be he
needs to be developed. Yeah, we are going to win now,
don't we want to be? Will we will be winning.
We will be.
Speaker 6 (39:14):
Yeah, six or seventh in the West of the Bay.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
The Lakers gonna be winning, and then the Dodger's gonna
be in the World Series.
Speaker 7 (39:22):
Call who reason why y'all winning?
Speaker 5 (39:26):
Gonna be the reason why Lakers?
Speaker 3 (39:28):
I like, I like, uh what JJ Reddick has brought
to the team, Like, yes, yeah, man, you know, I
ran into JJ Reddick at the gym. Man, his son
was up there hooping. Randon twe me at the gym.
Had a nice little conversation with mister J. J.
Speaker 6 (39:43):
Reddick. Man. All right, yeah, you're trying out for the team.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
No, No, you know them days, man, them days of
me selling over the rims a little bit over.
Speaker 6 (39:52):
Man. You know you ain't got that back being gone.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Yeah, hey you know if I have, if I had
plexico height, that's a different story.
Speaker 6 (39:59):
Ill it'll be Hey, I would, I wouldn't, you know,
for no reason?
Speaker 7 (40:06):
Ye man, for a reason, get it and for what
it's worth. That is Stretch Armstrong. That is pantee Man.
And we call him pante Man for a reason as well,
because he's got the best air in the business. So
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