Steve Hartman & Kerry Rhodes Talk Fernando Valenzuela & The Dodgers World Series, What is Up With The Jets, Hartman's Updated Heisman, And More!

Steve Hartman and Kerry Rhodes talk about Fernando Valenzuela passing earlier in the week, and the Dodgers currently leading the World Series 1-0 over the Yankees. Steve and Kerry chat with NFL Insider Adam Caplan on what is really going on with the Jets after their latest collapse against Pittsburgh. Plus, the guy talk shop on Oregon beating down on Illinois, Hartman updates his newest and latest Heisman Top 3, and so much more!!

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Series at Dodgers Stadium tonight. And our dear friend Carry
Rhoads backside by side with me, Darry, how are you?

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Man? Man is always beautiful to be right by e Steve.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Here we are once again, Carrie, I said him. I'm
on the roads again, on the roads again, on the
roads again with Carrie Coaster, we go back to back
on Red Zone Radio. How's that working with you and
Dan on Sunday.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
It's the best. It's the best. I mean, you're you're
here from two to five. Yeah, the peak of football
hours and powers watching some football, talking to the fans,
give me some knowledge along the way as well. It's
pretty fun, it is. It is the best.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Gig ever and Rich and I have been doing it
for years as your lead in on Sundays. All right,
we have a busy day in college football right now.
There's not a lot going on in terms of big
time battles or any kind of cliffhangers as we're looking
right now with Oregon up big against Illinois. They are
showing why they're ranked number one in the country right now.

(01:27):
Some people thought Alabama might be a little shaky today
at home against Missouri. So far no prom of the
tied up twenty nothing in that game. Vanderbilt got off
to an early league but now trail number five Texas
at the half twenty one to ten. We will have
in about an hour the clickoff of a game that
in the preseason looked like a good matchup Florida State
at Miamis and miamis seven and zero.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Can you beat Florida State is one and six? One
in six?

Speaker 2 (01:54):
I mean, how many gigs is dj Ugula Lea gonna
get ouyungalala is? It is not working for them. So
there's some interesting games a little bit later on. Obviously,
we're going to talk a lot of NFL today. Adam
kap on our Fox Sports Radio NFL Insider will come
with us in about fifteen minutes. But I want to
talk a little baseball right at the top. Last night,

(02:15):
of course, we saw the walk off Grand Slam home
run by Freddie Freeman. Terrific baseball game between the Dodgers
and the Yankees. Certainly lived up to the hype. But
here here's the thing. I want to do a little
perspective now. As you know, Carrie, I know a little
history of sports, you know, a little bit, just a
little bit.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
My frustration with those that have total disdain for any
historical reference in anything, and I know there's a lot
of you is perspective. In other words, if you're constantly
living in the moment, then you're just assuming that what
you're seeing.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
Is the best ever.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yeah, I guess there's something to be said about that, right,
I mean, like, if you just don't acknowledge that there
is any history, that the only thing that matters is
what's happening in the moment, then I guess everything is
either the worst moment or the greatest moment ever, right.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
Yes, And that's one of the biggest things which is
wrong with our society now, right, Like everything is in
this like microwave of now, and so you're either the
best or the worst in that moment, and that's not
fair to historically speaking, it's not fair, but even to
the players now like it's not fair because if you're
only basing them based off of what they're doing right now,

(03:30):
you're gonna live in this world where you live and
die by that performance and that's just not how sports goes.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Well, look at Freddie Freeman is a future Hall of
Famers and one of the most respected players of his generation,
well of the great players of his generation. He's had
some personal thing he's had to go to. It was
an amazing moment and he said all the right things,
including something that was not heard if you were not

(03:56):
listening to the national broadcast. So after the game he
was talking to the local Dodger station and speaking to him.
They were making the proclamation that he goes down with
the all time legends of Dodger Baseball with that home run,
and his response was perfect. His response was, we have

(04:19):
to win the World Series right now. I'll go back
to the Kirk Gibson home run in nineteen eighty eight
because a lot of people are doing this side by sides.
I don't want to get into all of these. There
were very different circumstances. He wasn't going against a left
hander like Freeman who hadn't pitched in a month. He
was going against the number one closer of baseball, Dennis Arly.

(04:40):
He was hobbling at the plate. He got the count
to three and two. Wasn't a first pitch home run?
That aside. I was at that game. You were at
the game. I was at the game.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
So in nineteen eighty eight, I had quit my job
with the Raiders four games into the season. Two weeks later,
the I had a game I knew I wasn't going
to work for for Al Davis. So two weeks later,
the Raiders are on the road and we had season
tickets as the Raider organization, and there was no one
there to claim game one tickets, so they left them

(05:11):
with the receptionists. Virginia and she called me and she goes,
you want to go to the game?

Speaker 3 (05:16):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (05:17):
And she did annoying about baseball. So we went to
the game. Obviously, the Dodgers are losing late for it,
so he's like seventh inch, She's like, it just really boring.
Can we go and already he could see, you know,
cars out in the parking lives. Trying to explain to her,
he goes, this is a nightmare to get out of here.
We might as well just stay tied the end, right.
So we did, and obviously we're there in this and

(05:37):
we had field level first base side twenty rows up
right behind the visiting dug up perfect seats. Like when
Gibson hit the home run, I could see his one
hand flying off the bat, so my initial thought was
he popped it up to right and then it's a
home run. So we're all jumping up and down right
for twenty minutes, graight, I mean, it's ridiculous. But then

(05:57):
she looks at me as someone that literally knows nothing
about baseball.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
She goes, so was that big?

Speaker 2 (06:02):
And I told her I said, well, if by some miracle,
the Dodgers actually win this World Series, that home run
will live forever.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
Uh huh.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
And so last night Freddie Freeman had the same perspective
when he said, we have to win the series. Yeah,
I mean, in the moment, it's great, but if we
don't beat the Yankees and win the series, it's barely
a footnote.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
Yeah, It's only one game, and as big as that
moment is, obviously, it's a grand Slam to win a
game in the bottom of the tenth inn and it's
a huge deal. If you don't complete the job, it
will be a footnote in history.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
Yeah, apparently it It'll be like the question is, who
is the only player to have a walk off Grand
Slam in a World Series game? That would be Freddy
Freeman and lose, right, But so Freeman knows this. Everyone
else is like, oh, like this is Kirk Gibson. I'm like,
maybe maybe, maybe not nearly as dramatic, but maybe if

(07:00):
the Dodgers actually win the World Series and I have.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
My chips in the basket of they will not win it.
I know this, I know everybody the Dodger fans around here.
I walk in.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
I'm an enemy territory. I'm a Yankee cartman. Carmen, she
just walked out of here. So Alex almost came over
the table at her, because Alex obviously very much a
Dodgers fan. But Carmen said, no, I'm picking the Yankees
in seven. See he's picking them. But I am a fan.
I'm going to the games. I'm usually in the in
there watching rooting, and so for me it was a
big old gut punch last night.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
I mean for Boon to go with nasty nester who
haven't pitched them on in a month, and put him
in that Otani house.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
He did thanks to her dugow this. How about walking
the goal ahead run to second base? I know, see
that was my re I'm watching the game. I'm like,
I get it. You don't want to pitch the mookie,
but you literally are putting the winning run at second
base and scoring position. And then as I saw Freddie Freeman,

(07:58):
I said, one pitch, think grand slam, but I'm thinking
basic because you know he's got to throw a strike
because the bases are loaded, and he throw it right
down the pike, and obviously Freddie finished it. One other
story I want to add quickly here, and I don't
want this to sell him self serving in any way,
although everything I say seems self serve. So Fernando Vealezuela

(08:21):
passed away and in nineteen eighty one, his rookie season.
He is still to this day the only rookie ever
to win the Cy Young Award. He's the only one
to ever do it. I had a slight part in that.
So in nineteen eighty one, his rookie year, I was
working on Dodger Talk on a local station as a

(08:44):
personal assistant to the main host in eighty two and
eighty three, but he invited me to be at the
final game of the nineteen eighty one regular season sitting
in the press box. Well, that's the day all the
voting has done for all the baseball awards. So two
riders vote for MVP, two for Rookie the year there
was no Manager of the Area, end two for Cy Young. Well,
one of the two LA Dodger Beat writers had had

(09:05):
a vote for the Saying award that day was Chris Mortenson,
a young Chris Mortenson then working for the Daily Bries
long before the late great Chris Mortenson, super guy and
of course became a legend at esping covering in the NFL.
So he walks over to Bud frilecause I'm really torn
because after his eight no start that year, Fernando was

(09:25):
five and seven the rest of the year. It was
a weird year, was a split year with a strike
and everything. And Tom Seaver, who was then pitching with
the Reds one fourteen and two. So he comes over
to Bud, obviously of a respected guy on my mentor
had been in the business forever. And Bud, you know
the reason I'm sitting there is I'm like the stat geek,
like long before there's the Internet. Like I'm just the

(09:46):
computer kid.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
Right. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
So Bud looks at me and goes Hartman, he got
anything for him?

Speaker 3 (09:50):
So I said, all right.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Fernando led the league in starts, innings, complete games, strikeouts,
and he had eight complete game shutouts eight eight in
a season that was a third short. So Mort says,
you sold me. I'm gonna vote. Fernando won sever two.
The vote came out, Fernando won by three votes. Had
had he flipped it, sever would have.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
Won by one vote.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Really, he put sever first because it was five points
for a first, three for a second, one for a third.
Sever would have won by one vote.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
I had zero to do with Fernando winning. He should
have won the award. There should never have been a
question in Mort's mine. But the fact that I was
able to set him straight, I've always felt great about
that over these years.

Speaker 4 (10:32):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
He is sorely missed. He was an incredible impact on
the LA scene. Fernando Venezuela was super special, great guy, beloved,
and I was so happy a year ago he was
only the second Dodger ever to have his number retired.
Who wasn't in the Baseball Hall of Fame.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
Oh wow.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
So the fact that he got to enjoy that day
with his family a year ago was great.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
So did he have? Was that his first and only
Cy Young?

Speaker 4 (11:00):
That was it?

Speaker 3 (11:00):
That was it.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
That was it, the one Cy Young and still to
this day, the only rookie ever to win the Cy
Young Award.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
Bus the Skeins had a chance this year, right for
a little while.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah, well, I mean Doc Gooden was as good as
they got, but he finished second that year in eighty four.
But yeah, so anyway, we'll see what happens in Game
two of the World Series. Obviously, Carrie rooting for the
Yankees to even the sun. Let's go tonight, baby, We're
going to tie it up tonight. But the bigger thing
for the Dodgers, besides everything else, is the Yankees had

(11:28):
their ace on the mount and Garret Cole looked like
an ace and the Dodgers still end up winning the game.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
And that was the big thing there.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
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Steve Harbin, Carrie Rhoads with you. This is Fox Football
Saturday and we are live from the ti Iraq dot
com studios. You know when you have World Series going
on and I heard earlier with Alex and Carmen. They
were like saying, we're not friends for the next potentially
nine days. I was just about to ask, are we friends?

(12:48):
Carry you and I are okay, cool?

Speaker 3 (12:49):
All right? I was. I was.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
After all these years, I can put things in perspective.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
Carry You're always my friends.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Thank you, thank you, thank you very much. We're all
friends here, all right. Speaking of a this man is
generous enough to give his time to us every single Saturday.
Here he is our Fox Sports Radio NFL insider, Adam
Kaplan and Adam we carry here and his Jets pedigree.
I will not start with the Jets for the fifth

(13:16):
straight mee. So let's start with Tua and his return
to the Dolphins. Give us an update. He will be
active for this game? Is he starting? Is he ready
to go? What's the update on Tua?

Speaker 4 (13:28):
Yeah? I mean the Dolphins. Yeah, he's ready to go.

Speaker 5 (13:31):
The good thing is it's everything they thought would be
no setback. Who's actually cleared yesterday, which is usually a
wait till Saturday. But he was cleared yesterday out of
the protocol. They add him to the fifty three man
roster and he's ready to play. So he's good there. Now,
the question would be is this the smartest thing? And
that this has always been the debate with Tua, Should

(13:53):
you really do this? I mean, you have to leave
it up to the player. He's got to make this
decision on his own. He's cleared medically, by the way,
that's important to note, particularly for his contract. By the way,
there was ever a problem between the club and the team,
I mean the club and the player. It comes down
whether he's cleared or not from a club standpoint, and
then the independent neurologiers and also to his doctor Steve

(14:13):
by the way, that's also been a part of this.
To has had his own medical team separate from the club,
which is recommended. He also got cleared by people he
consulted with. So it's a big thing. It's a big
game there. Look, they're two and four. They've gotten obviously
the quarterback problems, the red rushers are hurt. They haven't

(14:33):
been a very good football team, and they play a
team that the Cardinals is sort of not very talented.
They play very hard, they play competitively, so it'll be
a fun game in South Miami tomorrow. But yeah, I'm
just glad that he's playing. But he had by the way,
he said, he's been symptom free really for a long time.

Speaker 4 (14:51):
That's the other part of this. But again, he was
on IR and he's ready to go.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
Before I move on to the Jets, because I am
the Jet alone, I want to kind of pig back
on that question and say, all right, he's back. They're
two and four. The offense seems a sell of itself
when he's not in. Can he get them rolling? And
can they make some noise from this point on with
them being back?

Speaker 4 (15:13):
You mean that you're talking about the Dolphins.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
Yeah, with to of back, Yeah, yeah, they can.

Speaker 4 (15:17):
And see here's the thing.

Speaker 5 (15:18):
Offensively, yes, defensively, they they're just not there. You know,
they lost Jalen Phillips unfortunately to another season ending injury.
Bradley Chubb's come back from another bad injury. So not
having you do your two best edge rushers, that's clearly
an issue. I think that's part of it.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
There.

Speaker 5 (15:35):
Their run game will will carry them. There's no there
are more of a balanced team. Mike McDaniel once had
coming from the Shanahan Tree. But now, I mean, look
like the Jets of the Dolphins, Oh you're really fighting now?
Is for a wildcard spot and By the way, Steve's
team Denver, who Steve picked the bank the playoffs? You know,
I got to bring it up. That's an unreal call.
If it happens, I mean, iom a dinner. I'm telling you,
get him out. No, I'll take care of the super

(15:56):
Bowl if they make the if they get us a
wild card, I'm like, I don't say it. I'm still
waiting for the other shoe to drop. It hasn't dropped yet.
We'll see what happened.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
Am I the only one that actually predicted that before? Well,
they should be they should be Carolina at home. All right,
Let's get to the Jets.

Speaker 4 (16:12):
Let their schedule, by the way, before we move on,
look at the Broncos schedule.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
I'm telling you I thought they I said before the season,
they can eke out ten wins and get a wild card.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
All right.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
One team that is struggling, obviously, the Jets. Obviously. Now
if they lose on the road to the Patriots, is
Aaron Rodgers retire?

Speaker 3 (16:31):
I mean it's okay, So.

Speaker 4 (16:33):
What a good game so far? By the way, was Patriots?

Speaker 3 (16:35):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (16:36):
So you had DeVante Adams back, It didn't mean anything.
You've been holding on to that Jets will win the
AFC East.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
Get let's take a step back.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
We're moving we're moving away from that. Okay, okay, but
I mean what what's what's not right with the Jets?
How did they get to two and five? And it's
funny that Rogers has brought up the culture before.

Speaker 5 (16:58):
There's just something something is to be off I know
their defense is not playing nearly as well. Oh, they're
not as they thought it would be. Kerrey would know
this being a Jets guy. They're just not They're not
getting the turners. Now we should mention a son Reddick
will play tomorrow. That's certainly going to help. Their pass
rush has certainly been missing. They're not making the big
plays on defense. They've been okay on defense and obviously offensively. Look,

(17:20):
this last game was just not good enough for Their
offense has been missing something. This thing seems like it's
been slapped together. It's the offensive line also has not
been great. Brees Hall has been good, but not quite
as good as last year coming back from his injury.
Actually was pretty good last season. So nothing is steve
the things they're not playing up to the potential. It's
probably you know, on your question, you know, it's one

(17:41):
thing if you lose close games, you're playing really well,
but you lose some close games, maybe start turning that around.
They're not even doing that. They're just not there's something
off of this football team. I can tell you what's
off with them, Adam. They look they're not having the fun.
So when you get pressure, when you get pressure, I
know that I can see.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
It just in watching the game. The way they play,
it's like everything's like I have to do it right.
So they're walking on the xhos when they perform, and
so there's no joy in the actual Even when they
make a play. It looks like it's like they're wiping
their brow like they're they're excited they made the play internally,
but they're not able to express him. So that's what
I see when I look at it. But I want

(18:17):
to talk about the culture issue. It's a culture thing. Yeah,
we good, But I'm want to talk about Hasson Reddick
as well. Right, So he's coming off, he's coming off
the couch. I mean, we saw a quarterback do that
last year and Joe Flacco and play well. But this
is a pass rusher. How does he how is he
going to be able to muster up enough energy to
happen effect early on.

Speaker 5 (18:34):
Yeah, and by the way, he has to learn this
new front. Now they play the wide nine, so which
is what pass rushers love. That's when the ends are
outside the tackle box. They so this should this son
should do Wellness. Now we have to understand though he's
been an exceptional as to stand up pas rusher, So
this is gonna be a little different. But pass rushers
like playing this front. And one thing about Asan is

(18:55):
that he's been a very dorable in his career. I
without looking, I don't think he's missed a game due
to injury. If he has, he's been very few. So
he's Look, he's got to perform well here. They need
this against a very bad Patriot offensive line that's beat
up physically. This is a game which they should absolutely win.
It's again, it's not it's just about how about playing

(19:16):
good football? Jet's how about doing that forget about playoffs
right now? They just need to play good football.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Deshaun Watson, Yeah, Seed, we watched, We watched as it
happened when his achilles unraveled, and you see that, you know,
calf muscle.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
It's it's painful just to watch it.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
So the Browns, uh, you know, at home against the Ravens.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
I mean, wow, I mean.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
This is going to get ugly. Lamar Jackson running away
with the m v P this year. Derrick Henry, how
is a guy his age, his side still running eighty yards?
We were Kerry and I were just talking about that.
But what's next for this Browns organization? Where did they
go from this catastrophe?

Speaker 3 (19:58):
A year ago?

Speaker 2 (19:59):
This team was in playoffs, they had the Coach of
the year, defensive player of the year, comeback player of
the year.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
Where do the Browns go from here?

Speaker 5 (20:06):
Well, the owner, Jimmy Haslm, has to walk away from ninety.

Speaker 4 (20:10):
Two million dollars that it's the only way they can
move on. To answer your question, they.

Speaker 5 (20:14):
Owe Watson ninety two million, fully guaranteed over twenty five
or twenty six. If Haslms want to move on from it,
they will move on. It's the They have to do
this for the sake of the French, the sake of
the fans. Watson can't play anymore and now he's coming
off with a serious injury. No matter what they own
the money, the contract expires after twenty six. No one
will trade for the contract. They cannot go on as

(20:35):
a franchise, and I believe they'll have all their picks
backs starting next year. They can't go on until they
get a quarterback. They don't have that guy in the
roster right now. So the answers question Steve, it starts
with Watson. They need to move on from him. It'll
be a Jimmy Haslm decision. It's not even arguably it's
the worst transaction NFL history.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
I mean, let's call it.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
Like it is.

Speaker 5 (20:58):
It's an absolute esther the bad mistake not to bring
back Flacco, and that's you know. I've talked about this
on with Dan Bayer. My understanding was that they they
just wanted to move on.

Speaker 4 (21:12):
They didn't.

Speaker 5 (21:13):
They were worried about the distraction of everyone getting behind Flacco.
If they had a bench Watson or Watson got hurt,
he had to play that. That was part of what I
was told. So look now, now Jamis is actually by
the way, James is a gunsligger man. Watch him tomorrow. Yeah,
I know one thing about the Ravens. Yes, their offense
is great. Their secretary has been really bad. They're giving
up massive digits. I'm not saying Cleveand's going to win

(21:34):
the game, but this could be. It looks like the
weather should be good. This could be there could be
some points scored in this game.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
Yeah, I want to switch it. I want to go
to the NFC South really quickly. So the Falcons Buccaneers
big game in the NFC South. The Buccaneers are depleted
at the receiver position. What are they going to do
to kind of remedy that situation? And it looks like,
I mean, at this moment, the Falcons could be in
the driving seat.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (21:57):
And I picked Tampa to win this division. I thought
they were going to win it, but they're just so
beat up. So Mike Evans is going to be on
a while when he reinjured his right hamstring, So that's
that's gonna He's had, by the way, most of his
career has had hamstering problems, but he hasn't missed a
lot of games for it. It's been nagging, but now
he's in trouble. So Sterling Sheppard, they'll get him out
of mothballs. He'll uh, it's really what they have to do.

(22:20):
Like he's had so many bad injuries, but he could
still play. He'll be their slot receiver. Jalen McMillan will
start a rookie, a third rounder, and they'll go if
Trey Palmer, who by the way, could run out of Nebraska.
He was a six rounder last season. Kate Otton's going
to be heavily targeted. Their their fourth round tight end
two years ago. Probably play more twelve personnel, which is
more two tight ends, two receivers. Then I would think

(22:42):
three receivers, because they just don't have the receivers, don't.
I know Todd Balls loves the run game talking to
people work for the Bucks, but I don't know how much.
There's not got much of a choice now. And by
the way, their secondary has been torched. Their best corner
of Jamal Dean is on ir that they got. It's
a shame They're just this is a thing, guys, as
we talk here. If you want to know why a

(23:03):
lot of teams are good struggling, it's due to injury.
The Bucks are just the latest.

Speaker 4 (23:06):
One, all right.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
I promise I won't bring up the Jets next week
unless they lose to New England. If you have to know,
you have to. If they lose the pass that will
be our lead. Adam tremendous stuff. Getting ready for another
big week in the NFL. We'll talk to you next
Saturday time. I got it, Adam Kaplan, our Fox Sports
Radio NFL insider. All right, let's find out what is
a trending right now, a little hiatus from his very

(23:29):
busy UCLA football schedule.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
He does it all.

Speaker 6 (23:33):
Yeah, I got the bye week.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
That's the bye week this week, getting ready for Nebraska
next week. Nebraska look pretty good against Ohio State.

Speaker 6 (23:40):
He got a really good defense.

Speaker 7 (23:41):
I think that's going to be a good, uh, you know,
old fashioned Big ten West style game. You know, first
to twenty might win next week in Lincoln. So Nick
was at the birthplace of college football last week there
at Rutgers.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Yes, right, that's right, An he signs that that's the birthplace.

Speaker 6 (23:57):
Yeah, they let you know.

Speaker 7 (24:00):
You don't get within one hundred yards of that stadium
without knowing that that was the birthplace of college football.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
But Nick, are they is it the birthplace? Did they
really let you know that it was the birthplace when
you went in?

Speaker 6 (24:11):
I mean, no one actually told me. It's funny. We
got we So me and a couple of the broadcast crew.

Speaker 7 (24:18):
We took an uber over there from the hotel and
we got dropped off by the main tunnel where the
buses get in. But this is three three and a
half hours before. They just let us walk right in.
No one checked our credentials. We had duffel bag. We
walked right into the place. Nice, good security there. Busy
day today, Nick, Yeah, we kind of got some duds
going on in this three thirty eastern window of games. Honestly,

(24:41):
you know what I'm watching right now. So our guy
Brandon in the edit room cutting all the highlights. He's
trying to hit a six game parlay and the biggest
or the longest one he had to hit, at least
it seemed a couple hours ago, he took the Stanford
money line. Well, the Cardinal have come back against Wake
twenty four to twenty four in the fourth. So that's

(25:02):
the one I'm really keeping a close eye on because
all the ones involving ranked teams are blowouts right now.
The closest one is in Nashville, and now there's a
chance here for Vanderbilt to make it interesting. Number twenty
five Commodorees against number five Texas second time this game
Quinnie Ors has had a ball tipped at the line,
high end of the air. Vanderbilt has picked it off.
That's how they took a seven to nothing lead earlier.

(25:24):
Just got the ball into the red zone off that interception.
So it's twenty four to ten Texas inside five minutes
to play in the third. Elsewhere, you've got number one
Oregon blowing out number twenty Illinois thirty eight to nine.
They got nine minutes to play in the fourth quarter there.
Number eleven BYU looks like they're gonna get to eight
to oh. They lead UCF thirty four to ten, ten

(25:45):
minutes to go in.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
The fourth quarter.

Speaker 7 (25:47):
Number fifteen Alabama, they have bounced back in a big way,
shutting out number twenty one Missouri thirty four to nothing.
Still eleven minutes to play there. Brady Cook, Missouri's quarterback
was knocked out in that one, so that's not helping
the Tigers.

Speaker 6 (26:00):
Finals from earlier.

Speaker 7 (26:01):
Number four Ohio State, they survived that scare from Nebraska
twenty one to seventeen. You've got Ohio State at Penn
State next weekend. Number thirteen Indiana is now eight and oh.
That matches the best start to a season in program
history as they beat Washington thirty one seventeen, number twelve
Notre Dame all over Navy, handing the Mids their first
loss of the year fifty one fourteen the final they

(26:23):
played that one in the meadowlands and number eighteen old
miss They kept their slim playoff hopes alive. They were
down for it halftime against Oklahoma, came back in one
twenty six to fourteen. A couple of notes in the NFL,
sounds like Jade and Daniel is going to be a
game time decision tomorrow. He went through walk through today,
so we'll have to wait and see on that one

(26:45):
in the morning. But all signs I feel like he's
gonna play. Didn't practice until Friday, practice yesterday, walk through today.
I think we're gonna get our number one verse, number
two draft picks. Cowboys are set to activate running back
Dalvin Cook. They've got the Niners. ESPN says the Rams
are open to trading former All Pro corner tra Davius White.

(27:06):
He's been inactive the last couple of games, and of
course we got Game two of the World Series coming
up at eight Eastern. Yoshinobu Yamamotos starting for the Dodgers
and Carlos Rodin for the Yankees.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
All right, Kenry, thank you very much.

Speaker 4 (27:19):
Nick.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Once again, this is Fox Football Saturday and we're live
from the Tairaq dot com studios. So, in this first
year of the expanded college football playoff, we'd still have
even with Navy's blowout loss to Notre Dame that was
a non conference game, obviously, we still have a chance
of really one of the weirdest things ever to happen,

(27:41):
where we have Army and Navy still undefeated in conference
play in the AAC facing each other in the AAC
Championship game the week before the traditional Army Navy game.
Because the Army Navy game is always the last game played.
It's that Saturday when they announced the Heisman Trophy. All

(28:03):
the conference championship games are gone, and you have that
one game remaining. Boll they could play that day in
thea SED Championship game that could well decide whether one
of them actually gets into the playoffs, and then they
would have a rematch the very next week in the
traditional Army Navy game.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
Is that really?

Speaker 4 (28:23):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Wow, this is how wacky this is. Now, with this
crazy it just seems incredible that. You know, almost every
year you look at twelve schools, all right, so you think,
all right, twelve schools in the playoff, it shouldn't be
that difficult. There might be a couple of things at
the end. But honestly, this year for college football is

(28:44):
so off the charts. We've already had four different schools
ranked number one in the country. Oregon will hang on
to that today after a big win against Illinois.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
But I don't know about you.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
Again, eyeball tests, I just don't see any college team
that's blowing me away this year.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
Yeah, no, the same with me. I mean, the Oregon
is the team that you know. I mean, obviously, when
you look at it now, the Ohio State game doesn't
look as great. But when you look at that from
the eyeball test and you win a big game like that,
it gives you the edge. And so I would look
at them and say, they have the most complete offense
and their defense is pretty good. So I would say
they are, in my opinion at this moment, the best

(29:27):
team in college football. But yeah, I'm with you. Built
the bank on them, absolutely not. That's what I didn't
bet today because I was scared.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
Yeah, I mean, it just it's weird with the playoff,
and then obviously with Texas and Oklahoma moving into the
SEC and the four West Cools schools schools and moving
into the Big Ten, it's wide.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Oh, but I think it's going to be great.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
I you know, we had a conversation pre show here
we're talking about the state of basketball, the game of basketball,
and with all the great stars in the NBA, you know,
the brand of basket ball to me is not all
that appealing, you know, and I think you would agree
with that. But the one thing we also know is

(30:08):
you can't beat the nca Basketball Tournament.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
Nothing like it. Nothing like it, nothing like it.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
It doesn't matter that the best players now bypass the
college game and goes straight into the NBA. It doesn't matter.
If you look at the mops over the last ten
years of the Final Four, it's like literally a who's
who Who's that. It doesn't matter. The format for the
NCAA Basketball Tournament is flawless. It just flawless, and everyone

(30:33):
loves it. Everyone fills out a bracket even if you
haven't watched a single college basketball game. And I'm just
wondering if we'll get to that level. With the college
football Playoff, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
And the reason I say that is because it's just
like even with the NCAA tournament right there, there's always expansion.
So right like from you know, the sixty four, we
got to get the last four ran sixty eight, like,
it's always plus something.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
But you don't need that because you have the conference tournaments.
Every one is very few schools do not qualify for
their conference tournaments. So the week before you have the
conference tournaments is like the opening of the nca tournament.
Do you see a day when they'll actually expand the
college football playoff beyond twelve schools?

Speaker 3 (31:17):
I hope not.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
I mean, could we have sixty four football schools?

Speaker 3 (31:21):
Absolutely not. That would be terrible. That would be bad football.
Tall right, take yourself back to your Lowville day.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Let me go back, all right, So even now, if
you're seated five through twelve, if you were to get
all the way to the championship game, that's four playoff
games exactly, minimum three possible four if you're coming out
of that five through twelve group does that And and
by the way, let's say you played in your conference
championship game and got relegated to you know, playing that

(31:50):
first week. That is a potential seventeen game season. Could
you have seen that when you played in college?

Speaker 3 (31:57):
Absolutely not, Like I was done after the Liberty Ball.
I want to go home, you.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Know, and you had a month off exactly at the
end of the season and the Liberty Ball exactly.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
So No, I couldn't see it happening. And the attrition money,
you know, it's all about money, but the attritionan on
the player. It just it just wouldn't be fair for
the player. It's not in college anyway, like their bodies
are still developing. Most of those guys are young. It
wouldn't be it wouldn't be an advantageous thing for the sport.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
And the X factor I said this when they introduced
this twelve school playoff is you have let's just use
a quarterback who's projected to be a high pick in
the NFL draft and he's staring the possibility of four
playoff games exactly, No, you better come.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
Up with some nil money. Well, they got it.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
I mean, You're like, Okay, for every game I win
in the playoff, I want a bonus for sure, right absolutely,
otherwise I bail out and I'd say, and I'm getting
ready for the draft, go with your backup.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
That's my point, right, There's no way, there's no way
I would play that many extra games. If not what
that guy I mean, these insurance policies don't don't ens
of what you can make on the next level. So
I would pack it up and go. I would pack
my ball and go to the next level.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
For sure, I say, going into this year, I'm very
anxious to see how this plays out.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
It's because we have no clue. It should be fun.
I think we had so many situation scenarios where there's
a team left out that we believe that could have
been in it, right, and so the twelve should be good.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
That should be the basis and no more after that. Well,
you have the five conference champions and the seven at larges.
You figure probably five of those seven will come out
of the Big ten in the SEC.

Speaker 4 (33:32):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
Yeah, they'll try to get.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
An extra ACC team and they'll try to get another
Big twelve team in.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
They'll try. The only way they'll get another ACC team
in is if Miami stays unefeet and then Clemson sneaks
in there.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Well, Clemson has played pretty well, really good.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
Yeah, And there's a guy that does not believe in nil.
There's a guy that doesn't believe in the transfer portal.
He says, I need unity on my team. That would
be Dabos Sweeney. All right, speaking of college football. Coming
up on the other side, it's my Heisman update. This
is Fox Football Saturday.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
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Speaker 2 (34:14):
Steve Hartman, Kerry Roads. Here Fox Football Saturday. We're live
from the tire Rack dot com studios. All Right, ladies
and gentlemen, it is that time. So Carrie, indeed, I
am privileged for the fifteenth year to have a vote
for the Heisman Trophy.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Would you like to have a Heisman vote? I would actually,
that's cool, right, Yeah, it's great.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
It just shows your your royalty around here.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Well, I don't know about that, but there's eight hundred
and seventy media members that never never changes. And then
all former winners have a vote. I remember in nineteen
eighty five, Marcus Allen's ballot came to the Raider offices,
and I handed it to him and I said, you
got to vote for Chuck Long. I mean, he's having
an unbelievab year of the Iowa quarterback. He goes, Steve,

(35:03):
I always vote running back, I'm voting Bo Jackson, which
he did and it was one of the closest votes
of all time. Whatever happened to that Bo Jackson guy?
All Right, each week I like to update h and
where I stand in the Heisman vote. We start with
my current number three.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
Then Jief's gonna go left and we'll start jumps into
the end zme.

Speaker 6 (35:27):
Tim mc gabriel couldn't hear it off.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
He reads the DS, pulls him out and jumps into
the end.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
ZME going left at Jerry Allen fromlear Field and Dylan
gabriel jumps into my top three.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
Why not?

Speaker 2 (35:41):
You're the quarterback of the number one ranked team in
the country completing well over seventy percent of your passes.
Of course, it's like his twelfth year of college. He's
ninety two years old, he's been a rustled for a while.
It's his third school. But when you're the quarterback of
the number one team with the numbers he has, that'll
get you on my Heisman list. Here is my current

(36:01):
number two.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
Snap handoff, No, he throws left side of the Royal,
He lunches, he got it.

Speaker 4 (36:08):
Touchdown.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
It's a touchdown Miami inside the.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
Game find or touchdown to Royo.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
Wh're twenty six seconds ago.

Speaker 4 (36:18):
It's a touchdown.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
That's Hurricanes Radio Network. Cam Ward, another guy in his
third school of his collegiate career, has led Miami to
an undefeated record, leads the nation, and passing yard should
roll him up today against Florida State. Twenty four touchdowns,
five picks. Cam Ward has been the most consistent quarterback
so far in college football this year.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
I got to see him two weeks ago up close
and personal. I wasn't at the game, but on the
couch and saw what he did to my Louisville Cardinals
and it wasn't pretty. He was really good.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
He was really good. He's had a couple of big
comebacks this year. So he is my current number two.
Here is my current number one, coming in motion as
baits handoff genty to the right side.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
Gmty sheds a for thirty forty fifty forty.

Speaker 4 (37:03):
It's a foot race.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
Thirty twenty ten.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
Another one play drive for Ashton genty seventy.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
Five yards on the score.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
That's Bob Bueler from lear Field. I watched that game
last night. It was the toughest game of the year
for Ashton genty. They loaded up the box UNLV. Pretty
good team, by the way. Yes, the thing that impressed
me last night he still headed up with one hundred
and twenty eight yards rushing. Was this guy runs hard. Yes,
he's five nine, two hundred and eighteen pounds. He can

(37:33):
move a pile. Yeah, he's got the breakaway speed. Yeah,
he's got eight runs over fifty yards. Even after yesterday's
still averaging eight point seven yards of carry for the season.
Ashton genty is still my number one. Ashton denty has
to be number one. I the only thing that I
would throw out there with you, and I'm sure you've considered,

(37:53):
and I'm sure you've probably just moved Dylan Gabriel to
that third spot. But Travis Hunter, where's he at? Well,
Travis Hunter's one of my top three of the entire tag.
But two straight weeks of being injured, it doesn't mean
he can't get back in it again. Who's the best
college football player in the country. Obviously, Travis Hunter is
in the conversation which you got to stay on the field,
and this has been the problem with him throughout his

(38:15):
college career. I mean, when you're playing both ways all
the thousand, you know, trying to stay healthy is next
to him possible. So early on he was my number
one for several weeks. He's just got to get back
on the field, got it. So I would not discount that.
You know, everyone talks about, like you know, Charles Woodson

(38:35):
won the Heisman at Michigan. He played some wide receiver.
The one guy that really did it. And when I
talk about playing both ways for an entire year, let's
see here, let me make sure I've got the numbers
right on this.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
I'm I always make sure.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
Is one of the great players in the NFL. Twelve
time pro bowler made it, obviously to the Hall of Fame,
and that was a Champ Bailey at Georgia. Yeah, Champ
Bailey caught forty seven passes and he played defense the
entire time, had three interceptions. Yes, he only finished seventh
in the Heisman voting that year. Yeah, I mean, playing
literally both ways that entire year at the University of Georgia.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
Steve, I'm gonna tell you this and a lot and
people don't say this often enough. There are a lot
of players out there that can play both ways. Skill
set wise, now, well you could have that's my point.
But like and not to this. I'm not saying I'm
Travis Hunter whatever. It doesn't matter about how good he is.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
But didn't you play both ways in high school?

Speaker 3 (39:40):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Of course, most of the great players, even to this day,
if you play wide receiver, corner, not that uncommon lineman
played both ways. Rich Ornberger played both ways when he
was in high school. That's my point. But at the collegiate.

Speaker 3 (39:56):
Level, it's just too hard to do it. Just to
be out there both ways and play every snap. You
just can't do it. And you're saying it right now.
He can't stay healthy. That's the only problem. So continue
update each week.

Speaker 4 (40:08):
There all right.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Coming up on the other side, Carrie and I are
going to get to a very busy Sunday in the NFL.
This is Fox Football Saturday, once again rolling along on
a fully loaded sports Saturday. This is Fox Football Saturday,
and we are broadcasting live from the ti rag dot
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(40:30):
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The way tire buying should be Carrie jumping in today
double duty with his big Sunday duties.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
We'll get to that in a second.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
But Monciblanos is at game two. She's at Dodgers Stadium
right now. Did she just update you what happened?

Speaker 4 (40:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (40:53):
MANSI just sex mean, was like, she just gave me
my blessing, her blessing to make all the picks and
browl predictions that you guys make. So I've been covered
there all right.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
So I have decided and I talked to Patrick about this.
Huh in her absence, you will not be making it.
Oh yeah, Mazi, I guess it's not happening. No, well
not now. She probably said that because it was a
rough week for her. I made a couple of we
do the way we do our pix is different. We
just don't pick the winners of three games. We also

(41:22):
do a bonus where you could pick the over under.
If you get it right, it's a bonus point. But
if you get it wrong, you lose a point. And
then we have bold predictions. Okay, I had two bold
predictions last week. One I predicted that C. J. Stroud
would not have a touchdown pass. That was very bold,
and I nailed it, no touchdown passes. And then I

(41:44):
then I we had the Chiefs, well, we had the
forty nine Ers game, yep, and I said the Chiefs
should win by double digits.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
That was bold. Those the two bold predictions, and that
sounds like insider trading.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Actually, somehow I got it right, So I will you know,
we can talk some games. We're going to talk plenty
of games coming up in this hour. Carry One of
the games once again that we are going to be
talking about is the game coming up tomorrow between the
Bears and the Commanders. And you got two teams right

(42:19):
now that are in the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
So if the season ends today, the teams that had
the top two picks in the draft, the Bears and
the Commanders, led by their rookie quarterbacks, the Heisman Trophy winners,
are in the playoffs. Are you surprised by either one
of these teams both of these teams? Not surprised? Are

(42:44):
you looking at five and two Commanders versus four and
two Bears, Like, how did we get here? What is
your impression so far of how these teams have gotten
to this point.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
Yeah, the most surprising, obviously is the Commanders. They seem
the furthest away. Jaydan Daniels has been brilliant, and you know,
you get that early genius start by him, and they're
playing well on offense and they're doing all these things,
not putting the ball for two weeks or whatever, and
you're impressed. And I understand that we talked about it

(43:13):
earlier in the first segment, right, people being in the moment,
and we were in the moment with Jaden Daniels and
kind of dismissed Caleb Williams, and you know, he kind
of started slow. Now he's picking up steam. The team's
getting better, He has a better he has an even
better surrounding cast, in my opinion. So I'm excited to
see this game. I know Jayden's coming off an injury
and he's gonna be iffy. I'm sure he's going to

(43:34):
play in this game. I'm more surprised by the Commanders,
and I'm thinking the Bears are probably right on the
track for what they have.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
Well, Jayden Daniels, like you said, historic, Remember the first
four weeks of the season, his completion percentage was at
eighty two percent. And they looked it up and found
out that no quarterback in the history of the NFL,
at any four game stretch ever completed eighty two percent,
much less the first four games they ever played.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
In the NFL.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
No quarterback I had ever done it, Wow, over four
games in a row. None, not Aaron Rodgers, not Tom Brady,
not Paydon no quarterback had ever done it before. So
Jayden Daniels incredible numbers he put up at LSU or
no Fluke. When you're going against you know, SEC caliber defenses,
you're facing good defenses, so it wasn't too big of

(44:22):
a moment. However, I will say this for Caleb Williams
you mentioned obviously he's getting better.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
He's getting much of course, yes, And you.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
Can just tell because I was watching Caleb Williams early
in the year.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
He was rushing things.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
You know, you get anxious, you get a little excited
clock and you need to slow things down. When you
look at great quarterbacks in the NFL, they all look
like they're in slow motion.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
There's no panic they are.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
Comfortable, you know, whether it was Brady or Manning or
you know, Aaron Rodgers when he was actually good that
you know, there's no panic, Everything slows down and you're
able to go through the process and think about things
before you actually make a decision on what you're going
to do with the football. So already I'm seeing that

(45:08):
with Caleb Williams. I didn't have any doubt that Kayla
Williams had a talent to be a premier quarterback in
this league.

Speaker 3 (45:14):
But this would be huge.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
If both these quarterbacks, because we've seen quarterbacks get off
the promising starts and then they fade away.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
Yes, it's not uncommon.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
I'm hoping that this kind of start for both these
quarterbacks will develop them into Hall of Fame caliber quarterbacks
over the next decade.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
Yeah. Now, you know what the crazy part about this
starts for both of these teams. Again, like I said,
I expected the Bears to be, you know, right in
the mix of making the playoffs. You know, with all
the talent they had, if Caleb Williams, you know, kind
of blossom into the player that we thought he would be.
The commander situation though, and seeing that a new head

(45:53):
coach Dan Quinn coming in, who I know personally from
my time with the Jets's of D line coach. Knowing
his men, I thought it would take little bit more
time there.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Well, what about Cliff Kingsbury. That's where I was going.
You got to give him so much credit with this guy.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
Obviously, we know Cliff is a you know, an offensive guy,
but his offense has been kind of gimmicky in the past.
This seems more stable, and it seems like it can give,
like it's more West Coast. It's giving him a chance
to not have to read things all the way down
the field and you get those completions, but he can
also throw the deep ball and he's just integrated really well.

Speaker 4 (46:27):
Well.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
Again, you can have all kinds of ideas exactly as
an offensive coordinator, but if your quarterback can't execute, you know, right,
and I've known a lot of offensive coordinators over the
years that will tell you, Boy, if I could put
his brain in his body, it would be a whole
different situation. Yeah, you know, you got to be able

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to process information. The two things that again most elite
quarterbacks have, yes, are the ability to make obviously quickness
visions and throw the ball accurately.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
Yes, So if you can do those two.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
Things, then you will be more likely than not a
successful quarterback.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
If you can't do those two things, then you're Ben Roethlisberger.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
I mean, I mean, let's let's let's look at at
Richardson right now. You got a young quarterback who has
all the physical tools and he shows flashes. But if
you're going to be consistent, you've got you've got to
throw the ball accurately.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
Yes, you have to.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
And if you can't do that on a consistent basis,
then you're just going to be a tease. Like you
look at the talent.

Speaker 3 (47:35):
He can do it.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
He can he may process the information. There's a lot
of things he can do, but you've got to be
able to execute it on the field.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
And I say Ben Roethlisberger not taking anything away from
him as plea. You know that, but it's a lot
of his plays and the stuff that was that was
memorable about Ben was when things broke down, he was
able to make the play. He could. He was big
enough to shrug off defenders and so it was different.
But exactly what you're saying for NFL quarterback to have
prolonged success in history. To be that guy, you got

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to process information, and you got to know where to
go with the football, and you got to be accurate.
That's those are the three things that have to happen.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Look at what they did with Drew Brees in New Orleans. Yes,
as his arm was about to fall off, having thrown
a billion passes in college and another billion in the NFL,
they just shorten everything up because he could still throw
it accurately seventy percent at the end. I mean, he
was still throwing, but he's not throwing the ball down
the field, and so you know, you use the tools
that you have.

Speaker 3 (48:31):
That's why I am not surprised.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
I made this bold prediction before the season on our
big list out there that the Denver Broncos to make
the playoffs this year with bow Nicks.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
Yeah you did.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
And I said that because I felt confident that Sean
Payton there's a reason he got rid of Russell Wilson.
I mean, if you look at Russell Wilson's numbers, they
were not terrible last year at all, but that team's
defense after having that horrific start. You remember the game
at seventy Miami, Really the second half of the year
is one of the better defenses in the league. But
he needed a quarterback to do what he wanted the

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quarterback to do. And I know this about bo Nicks
a he had started more Division One games than any
quarterback in history in his Auburn and Oregon games.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
Two, we can run with the football. He actually can
run with the football, and he completed seventy eight percent
of his passes last year at Oregon. So again, if
if he can learn the offense, and look what's happening
all of a sudden, Denver is in the mix, and
you have the right coach that can utilize the quarterback again,
put him in.

Speaker 3 (49:32):
A system to succeed.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
Yes, And I got a sense now that Sean Payton
has found its comfort spot with his young quarterback.

Speaker 3 (49:39):
And it's only going to get better. You think they're
going to turn the corner here, huh? In Denver. I'm
very skeptical of Denver, and I want to.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
See they're home against Carolina and if they lose to
the Panthers, then I'm in a reneg on that.

Speaker 3 (49:50):
They better win that one. But the biggest thing with
Denver for me is Sean Payton. Actually, it's not about
the quarterback or the defense. Wuld have never been a shot.
I never happened. I only say that because he's won
one super Bowl and he walks around like he's won twenty,
like that's who he is.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
Well, if you look at his record and the record
of Mike McCarthy and John Harball, they all have the
same record exactly.

Speaker 3 (50:12):
Yeah, they're identical.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
They're like the same number of wins, same number of
Super Bowls.

Speaker 3 (50:16):
But they don't walk around like that though, So I
expect a little bit more from him. So you think
those other two guys are very humble, disk, I would
say when I seen them from the outside, from the
outside looking in, I'm not so sure about that. You're
not John Harball and Mike McCarthy very well.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
First of all, John Harbaugh eliminated himself when he didn't
listen to you last year, and that is the championship game.
When you sold me that the Ravens are ready for
this game, and I said, now, they're not going to
try to have Lamar Jackson match Patrick Mahomes's throw.

Speaker 3 (50:44):
For throw, are they? Oh?

Speaker 2 (50:45):
No, no, no, now they That was the worst offensive
game plan in a game of that magnitude that I
had ever seen.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
I didn't want to come in that next day. I
think we talked like maybe like what I was like,
well you you talked to Lamar that week exactly.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
No, no, No, we're ready to go. We got the
game plan. We're gonna win this game. It was a
one score game. What was it?

Speaker 1 (51:05):
Like?

Speaker 2 (51:05):
I get it, you're down two touchdowns? You got to
throw the ball. That was never the case in that game.
Worst game plan ever, John Harby.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
I agree with that, Yeah, for sure. Where's the buck stop?
All right?

Speaker 2 (51:16):
Speaking of where the buck stops? What's going to happen
next for the Dallas Cowboys? They had a bye week.
Wonder how that went. We're gonna break it down. This
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Speaker 3 (51:43):
Again.

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Speaker 3 (51:49):
Mary mac I feel like I'm at my grandmother's house. Steve,
I know, this is it right here, This is the
vibe I think it's on.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
I like when you see your grandmother. This was like
when I was college. Yeah, okay, so yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
All right.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
So the Dallas Cowboys, I mean, it really is stunning
how I can destroy teams. H I say that because
when we were making our preseason predictions, I knew that
the Cowboys hadn't done a whole lot during the off season.
But I have this sense, which was so wrong, that

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maybe this was the year that the football gods would
smile on and they give the richest contract effort to
Dak Prescott, they bring their big guys back, and I
just thought, maybe this like a year you don't expect
it to happen, it's going to happen. And almost from

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the get go it has been a catastrophe. And the
problem with the cow is very simple. They have the
worst run defense in the league and they have no
running game on offense. Yep, that's a back. If you
can't run the ball and you can't stop the run,
it is very hard to win games. Mike McCarthy, I'm

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not surprised he's not fighting, He's he's a lame duck coach.
He's I mean, he's gonna he's gonna walk at the
end of the year anyway. Uh So there's no reason
to really fire him. But let's let's talk. I mean,
they're it's unbelievable. As bad as they've been, they're going
against a forty nine ers team that actually has a
worse record. Yes, so how's this going to play out

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this week? Do you think between the Cowboys and the
forty nine Ers, two teams that are on everyone's radar,
and yet they're combined six and seven this year.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
If this was the nineties, I'd be really excited. Number one,
that would be uh the number versus yard exactly. But
right now, in the current status of where we stand,
both teams have been a disappointment. But I and more
disappointed in the forty nine ers. But I'll get on
them later. But as far as Dallas goes, until they
kind of until they must up some type of running game,

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they're not going to be successful. If they can somehow
rejuvenate Dalvin Cook and get him to get some some
yards in there to aid Dak Prescott. They're thinking and
bringing zeke back. I have no idea. We saw him
in New England. We knew he was done. I mean
nostalgia side, that's all that could really be the situation.

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I know he's heard, but yeah, Pollard, no Pollard, he's
getting traded, He's going away.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
So I mean they, I mean they literally left themselves
without a running game.

Speaker 3 (54:38):
Without a running game. And you bring in, like I said,
all these guys who are pretty much I guess past
their primes. Dalvin Cook hasn't even been active, so at
least we will get a chance to see that. But
right now, man, these teams are bad. And we've seen
it with Dak Prescott. When you put too much on
this plate, he doesn't succeed. He needs balance.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
Well, everyone said they had no choice. Yeah, in terms
of the Dak Prescott situation to have to pay him
that money.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
Like, what alternative do you have?

Speaker 2 (55:11):
We talked about this with Cleveland earlier, right we were
talking to Adam Kaplan. What's Cleveland's next move? Eat that contract?
But what Denver did with Russell Wilson, Eat that contract?
These are billionaire owners, so if you're eating fifty sixty
one hundred million dollars, you can do it if it's not.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
Working for you.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
I mean, when you look at Dak Prescott and you
know his rookie season was one of the most remarkable
rookie years quarterback ever. But he also had another rookie
named Zeke Elliott who was leading the league in rushing.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
That's the point.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
And they had the premier offensive line in the league
at the time. Yes, I did, And so there was
a lot that goes into a rookie quarterback having that
level of success. I like Dak Prescott, but he's not
a guy that should be in the conversation with the elast.
He was second in the MVP voting last year.

Speaker 3 (56:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
Yeah, they've lost after winning sixteen straight home games over
the last two years. If you include that embarrassing home
loss of the Packers, that's four straight home losses.

Speaker 3 (56:13):
Yeah. And who on that team, on that offense in particular,
can you trust?

Speaker 6 (56:18):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (56:18):
You paid Cede Lamb a lot of money and who
else other playmakers on that offense? Nobody else did. It's
all you put all your eggs in the deck Prescott basket,
and this is what you're gonna get if he has
no weapons around them either, it's a tough situation for Dallas,
all right. So for the forty nine ers, he's a
panic time for the four.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
Look at the start of the year with injuries all
over the place, right, yes, But all of a sudden,
brock Party is looking mortal average. All of a sudden,
you know, he's starting to look very like you say, average, small,
which he is physically, and when he doesn't have his
full repertoire of weapons clicking the sudden, he's forcing things

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and his physical limits that were responsible for him being
the last pick in the draft are exposed.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
And now they have enough tape on the guy. Right,
we know his tendencies, we know what they want to
do with him. He is a short, stature quarterback. If
you watch a lot of the games, he gets so
many balls batted at the line because of that. And
also worklow when you're asked and you have to start
pressing to make plays and do things outside of what

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you do best. This is what's going to happen. You're
not gonna be successful. And so we always want to
give the quarterbacks the praise when it's going great and
it looks beautiful, and we're gonna give them the failure
in the blame when it's bad as well, there's no
in between. And now he's on the other end of
that spectrum now where the praise is starting to fade.
And now we're seeing the guy who, like you said,

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was the last pick in the draft, and you kind
of see why he was in that position.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
Kyle Shanahan, you were talking earlier about Sean Payton and egos. Yeah, yeah,
Kyle Shannan is one of those ego guys.

Speaker 3 (58:02):
He does that.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
He is reinvented the wheel.

Speaker 3 (58:05):
Yep, none of those offensive savants.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
Yes you, I mean, no better case than last year,
right you took a quarterback that was the last pick
of the draft and made it to the Super Bowl
overtime in the Super Bowl. Yeah, yeah, no, I mean
we know it's but but is this something around the
league right now? As a former defensive player where we're
seeing not all, but some of these offenses not clicking

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like we saw over the last couple of years.

Speaker 3 (58:33):
Our defense is catching up. I don't think defenses are
catching up, but I think what defenses are doing to
offenses right now, they're making them go the long way.
A lot of two high safeties, a lot of softer,
softer defenses. They're they're forcing teams to beat them running
and actually executing, and a lot of offenses can't execute
well enough to drive the ball down the field in

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pos Now.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
Why we're seeing more running of the football this year
because defenses are allowing them to run the all.

Speaker 3 (58:59):
Yes, that's when you don't when you understand what defenses
and what offenses are trying to do, and you understand
their strengths and weaknesses. The last couple years has been
explosive offenses, obviously, and the game is kind of catered
to that. But now the defenses are like, all right,
we're going to allow you to be have to be patient,

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and a lot of these offensive coordinators and offensive players
aren't patient enough. They want to make the big plays.
We live in a splashy era of everything, and the
big plays are the players that make it on social media,
not running the ball.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
What do you make of the Mahomes situation where over
the last what is it now, eleven games, he has
something like, well, this year he has six touchdowns and
eight picks. Right, he's basically like twentieth in the league
in passing and they're undefeated. Yep, these stats and this
really goes back to last year's regular season where he actually,
over the last eleven games has thrown more interceptions and touchdowns. Right,

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and they have a missed a beat. He doesn't seem
bothered by that. Guy's all about winning and he can
do it with his Laser's a lot of ways he
can do it. Is that fixable though? That offense? Are
we ever going to see the Chiefs anywhere near what
we saw just a few years ago when they had
one of the most prolific passing attacks we've seen in

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the NFL.

Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
It won't happen until they get better players. They got
Hollywood Brown and he can't stay he can't stay healthy.
The other one that just got hurt, the other receiver,
Rashid Right, yes he gets hurt. Their big play guy
to the Pendabale.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
So unbelievable, that play, right, Fluke play.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
But yeah, Travis Kelsey is a show of himself. So
they don't have weapons and they want we've seen them.
We've seen him winning last year with this. I mean
the weapons were.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
How about Kareem Hunts come back?

Speaker 3 (01:00:46):
He's playing well, He's playing well, but that's the thing
and what what I just say, like but they know
how to win games. They know how to win it.
We have to give Andy Reid credit. Man, we don't
talk about how good a coach he is. He didn't
understand this.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
This is such a big part of the NFL.

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
I mean, a bounce here, a bounced there.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
When you look at the end of the year, there's
not a lot of difference between ten and seven and
seven and ten. No, you know, a few bounces, a
few plays turns a seven and ten team also ran
into a ten and seven playoff team. But some teams,
i mean New England did this for years. Obviously, they
didn't always have their a game, and when they played bad,

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they somehow just won games exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
And you know, the crazy part about what you said
about the Patriots is exactly that, Like there are moments
when they were super mortal. They'll be down seventeen to seven,
it'll be fifty eight seconds left at halftime, they'll find
the way to score a touchdown. Now it's a three
point game as well, Hail.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
Mary's with the pass interference calls, it's just weird. Yeah, yeah,
that's that's where the Chiefs are right now. They have
learned the secret that the only thing that matters. There
are no style points in the NFL. You just got
to get the W and they're proven it. There is
the last remaining undefeated team. All right, let's find out

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what's trending right now. Man that wears many hats doing
a lot of things, and just once we got a
chance to see him again here the great Nick Cope.

Speaker 6 (01:02:13):
Oh well, thank you so much, Steve.

Speaker 7 (01:02:14):
Yeah, we got a Vanderbilts trying to make this interesting late,
but it looks like they're gonna run out of time.
The number twenty five Commodores down ten to number five
Texas twenty seven to seventeen, only a minute left in
this one. Vanderbilt's gout the ball and plus territory, but
facing third and ten here coming uh. Number six Miami

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has just kicked off in the last twenty minutes against
Florida State and the Canes are already up seven to nothing.
I couldn't believe. I mean, I'm not surprised, but still
like seeing Florida State at one and six just boggles
the mind.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
I mean, all the controversy of a year ago thirteen
to zero left out of the playoff, and then of
course all their players sat what was it, sixty six
to three they lost to Georgia boat race, I mean
and now one instan it's like it broke the program.

Speaker 6 (01:03:04):
It did that whole the whole thing with the CFP.

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
Ooh. It had to because there's no way this team
should be sitting at one and six.

Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
Right, I mean their preseason what top five or ten?

Speaker 6 (01:03:14):
They were in the top ten up ten they were ten.

Speaker 7 (01:03:16):
They have not scored twenty points this year in the
continental United States. They got twenty in that opening loss
in Ireland against Georgia Tech haven't got there since.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
How's Wue Younglila doing well?

Speaker 7 (01:03:29):
He hasn't been playing, So that's ELL's all you need
to know. Ye do have a couple of good games
that are going to start here shortly, Number eight LSU
at number fourteen Texas A and M. That's the headliner
today and then a number three Penn State will be
at Wisconsin Finals from earlier though number one Oregon they're
now eight and oh dominant win over number twenty Illinois
thirty eight to nine. Number fifteen Alabama bounce back in

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a big way. They shout out number twenty one Missouri
thirty four ZIP number eleven byu IS eight and oh
for the first time since two thousand and one. They
won at UCF thirty seven to twenty four. Some late
points there from the Knights. It wasn't that close. Number
four Ohio State survived a scare from Nebraska twenty one
seventeen the final at the Horseshoe Buckeyzers six and one.

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Next up a trip to Penn State, and it was
a great day in Bloomington, Indiana.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
Here Is Rogers throws a little swing pass.

Speaker 4 (01:04:21):
I checked up.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
Indiana's gone it digital puns.

Speaker 6 (01:04:25):
He's gonna go for pustdamn score.

Speaker 7 (01:04:30):
That's Don Fisher from lear Field, Indiana. The number thirteen
ranked Hoosiers beat Washington thirty one seventeen and they are
eight to zero, matching the best start to a season
in program history. Number eighteen Ole miss erased a four
point halftime deficit and beat Oklahoma twenty six to fourteen.
The ReBs keep themselves alive for the college football Playoff,
and number twelve Notre Dame throttled number twenty four and

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previously unbeaten Navy fifty one to fourteen the final from
the Meadowlands. It's the largest ranked win for the Irish
since nineteen ninety. By the way, Vanderbilt did punch it in,
so they were within three of Texas twenty seven to
twenty four forty six seconds of play. So on on
side kick upcoming couple of notes in the NFL some formalities,
but the Dolphins officially activated to a tongue of Iiloa.

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Jets activated pass rusher Hassan Reddick commander's QB Jayden Daniels
would be a game time decision. Cowboys plan to activate
Dalvin Cook, the running back for tomorrow's game against the Niners.
ESPN says the Rams are open to trading former All
Pro corner Tredavius White. He's been inactive the last couple
of games for LA and Game two of the World
Series coming up in just about a half an hour.

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On a Fox Yoshinobu Yamamotos starting for the Dodgers and
Carlos Rodon for the Yankees. Stephen Kerrey back to you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
I think Monzi is in the dugout. Actually, she has
the best seats in the house. Yes, really, well, you
know she's been doing tours of Dodgers stating for a
long time.

Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
Very excited.

Speaker 6 (01:05:53):
I would hope they would take care of her.

Speaker 3 (01:05:54):
I'm sure they did.

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
Why wouldn't they, Monty Belanos obviously. In the meantime, it's
great to have Kerrie Rhodes here once again. We're live
from the ti iraq dot com studios. Nick Nick was
mentioning the Rams. If you watch that Thursday night game, boy,
what a difference when you got Cooper Cup and Poka
Nakoua back. That whole offense looks completely different. Staffer through

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four touchdown passes, Kyra Williams almost had one hundred yards rushing.
Now looks like the offense we saw a year ago.
And because the NFC West has been so bad, the
Rams sitting at one and four looked like they were done.
Now at three and four they're tied at least in
the moment with the forty nine Ers. Sean McVay is

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a really good coach.

Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
Yes he is.

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
He's a really good coach. And now that he's got
his weapons back, is it conceivable that the Rams could
actually win the NFC West this year?

Speaker 3 (01:06:54):
Yeah? Absolutely. They were my sleeper team in this year
to I mean to make the playoffs and possibly make
a run one and four. That prediction doesn't look good.
But right now they're healthy again. I mean just a
week ago they were talking about trading Cooper Cup to
other teams, right, and so now let me ask you this.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
Okay, So I'm watching that game against Minnesota. It was
a rough spot for the Vikings. You're on a short week,
you're on the road, coming off obviously a tough loss
against the Lions. They looked a little out of sorts.
But taking nothing away from the Rams. Obviously the Ram offensives.
But I'm watching Staffer right now. He's looking Pooka Nakua first.

Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
Yeah, he's number one.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
He's there one, not Cooper Cup. So if you are
the Rams, would you still float now the Cooper Cup
is healthy again? He did have a touchdown the game.
You still float him out there if the price is right?
Or do you just hold on to him?

Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
I don't know what that price being right will look like.
I mean, I haven't looked at the Rams in detail
to know what they need to upgrade on, but I
know that in the slot it's unguardable, So I wouldn't
give rid of that guy at all. All Right, Yeah,
so Cooper Cub is still he's still unguardable in the
slot and let and you're gonna have to rotate if

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if you go zone and you have a backer there options,
you gotta have the safety there. If you go Nickel
one on one, he's abusing that with that two way
going at option route. So there's still gonna have to
be a bracket situation that happens, and so that opens
it up for their number one guy, Pooka.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
I mean, when you think about it, he had a
few years ago one of the five greatest receiving years
in history. Yes, led the league in receptions, yards, touchdown
to the Crown and Super Bowl MVP.

Speaker 3 (01:08:34):
Yeah, all in the same year. He's he's unbelievable, to
be honest, I mean, it's here him. It's just you
have that. It's you have to know in the slot,
it's not about it's not even about skill. It's about
the having the ability to change pace. And so he
has pace in this game. He's never in a rush.

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He knows where he's going, he knows what the defense
is trying to do to him. And so it's just
like a quarterback. Right backlas successful. They have guys that
they can count on to relieve them of pressure. Right,
So if I do not have a pressure reliever. I'm
looking his way first.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
I'm always curious about this and obviously having covered so
many big name receivers over the course of your career.
During the eighties, one of the top receivers in football
was Steve Largent of the Seattle Seahawks first ballot Hall
of Famer finished his career as the all time leading receiver.
And Lester Hayes my dear friend who used to have
that task of covering large and I said, why why

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is he so difficult? Less I would just say, you
have to understand this because they ran the ball quite
a bit. It didn't matter what the play was. He
ran out a full pattern on every play, every play,
every single it could be a straight off tackle play.
I'm focused on him and he's running a full route. Yeah, yeah,

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every play. Yeah, that's what drove him freaking nuts. I mean,
obviously have tremendous hands, no gloves. In those days, you
never dropped anything but detailed, detailed detail where you as
a defender.

Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
You had to watch him.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
You got to honor it, and he would work you
to a frassle.

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
Yeah you hate those guys. Oh, but that's so many
scale talented guys. You hate the guys they work hard
and do it consistently every single place. Like Steve slow down, man, please,
you're not guessing the ball.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
They had a quarterback sneak and you're running a full pattern.

Speaker 4 (01:10:30):
Stop it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:31):
That's what make the grades great, right, Jerry Rice in practice,
way in practice, well, he every time he caught the ball,
he scored. It starts down right.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
My favorite Jerry Rice story was years actually after he retired.
I was up in Lake Tahoe for that celebrity golf tournament.
Used to cover that for many many years, and I'm
in my hotel room and I'm about to walk out
the door of my hotel room and I hear someone
running down the hallway. I get a frantic you hear
something like running, like like something's happening in the hallway.

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I opened the door. I look down at the end
of the hall and it's Jerry Rice.

Speaker 3 (01:11:03):
What is he done?

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
I'm like, he's running sprints in the hallway. He's not
even playing anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:11:10):
He was the most welcome distioninged athlete at that time.
He was unstoppable. He was a guy that did it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
Every time, every time. Man, Its just that consistency. It's
young guys have to understand that it's just not about talent.
It's about the work you put in, and it really is.
Let me ask you one other thing. Since I'm on
the I got my mindset on wide receivers right now.
So our dear friend Tjhuschmann zat he said something that's
always stuck with me about successful wide receivers. They say,

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you know, you get so caught up.

Speaker 3 (01:11:42):
In the forty times.

Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
He goes, It's not how fast you run, it's how fast.

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
You can stop in and out of your brakes.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
That's what the key is because you got to get separations.
So it's not how fast you run, No, it's how
fast you can stop.

Speaker 3 (01:11:58):
And what did I just say about Cooper? Yeah, it's
not about his skiol it's about his pace start stop.
He has a two way go in that slot. And
this is.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
Unstoppable, unbelievable stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:12:10):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
Coming up on the other side, there's another team, actually
one of the more intriguing matchups in the NFL this
week that may be flying under the radar, but shouldn't.
We'll tell you what it is. This is Fox Football Saturday. Well,
Steve Harbin and Carrie Rhodes are not like you.

Speaker 4 (01:12:29):
We know that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
Once again, this is Fox Football Saturday. We are live
from the ti iraq dot Com studios. Want to thank
our crew today, Nick Cope. It's good to see Nick
hanging out here today. Got Mary Mac putting the tunes
on the ones and twos. She knows how to do that. Yeah,
once in a while, should play something, I know, but

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I really try to.

Speaker 3 (01:12:55):
I know she does. She knows.

Speaker 2 (01:12:57):
She actually asked me a couple of music questions once.
She was stunned that I actually knew anything about He.

Speaker 3 (01:13:03):
Knew about the vm A, you know Kanye and t Is.
I did that. I did. I did know that one.
I did know that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
And then of course Patrick, we did not do picks
for games this week, but I did not. However, I
would like the whole world to know how I did
last week. I'll tell you what, Steve, you went up
five points to Moncey's two.

Speaker 3 (01:13:25):
You're leading by three right now. My front like of that.
So she's going to return to that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
I did one to see. Here's the thing, even if
you had had a perfect week, I would have closed
the gap on your stand See, I would question you
know you being here. I know I don't want to
do that. I want to straight up competition with me
and Moncey out there. So great job everyone, of course,
getting ready for watching Game two of the World Series
between the Dodgers and the Yankees. I mean Dodgers the Yankees.

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I mean, that's what it's.

Speaker 3 (01:13:52):
All about, rut.

Speaker 2 (01:13:53):
I mean, no two teams have played a more World
Series against each other, No two teams have played in
more World series period. The Yankees obviously have been in
the most. The Dodgers have been in the second most. However,
they don't have the second most wins. They do not,
that would be the Cardinals. Dodgers lost a lot of
World Series because well they lost a lot of World
Series to the Yankees. Here's a little note. The Dodgers

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have won seven World Series all time, but only once
have they clinched the World Series win at home, and
that was in nineteen sixty three when they actually swept
the New York Yankees in the World Series. Sandy Kofax,
not too bad, that's right, those guys. That's the only
time that the Dodgers actually clinched the World Series at home.

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So when you look at this series before I get
to this NFL game, I want to talk to I
know you're rooting for the Yankees, but how many games
are we looking at? You think they it goes six
or seven, that they clinch it at Dodgers Stadium because
that's where the games will be two three to two series. Yeah, yeah,
so it's a two three to two series. So you

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got game two today, the day off, three games at
Yankee Stadium, day off, two games at Dodger State.

Speaker 3 (01:15:09):
Well before the series started, I say Yankees in six,
So I guess that means they're gonna clinch here in LA.
That'll be fun because I'll be able to go down
there and kind of Marty game. Will you be at
that game? The tickets are pretty high?

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
Uh now I heard yesterday this. This seems unreal to me,
but some VIP parking parking part of the game was
going for six thousand dollars to risk of my blood,
not the tickets parking.

Speaker 3 (01:15:41):
Where is the VIP parking?

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
I have no idea, but I here's the thing. Here's
the here, here's the clue. If you know, I've only
been to Dodger Stadium a million times. But the thing
about it is getting out of Dodger Stadium is bad.

Speaker 3 (01:15:54):
It's tough.

Speaker 2 (01:15:54):
And and so if you got one of those VIP
parkings where you just walk right in your last going out.

Speaker 3 (01:16:01):
You're gonna be there all night.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
It's VIP going in, but ain't no VIP coming out.

Speaker 3 (01:16:07):
Well, if that's the day they clinched, and I'll be fine.
I can stay and hang out for a long time. Steve,
all right, I.

Speaker 2 (01:16:13):
Want to know I was waiting on this game because
we have mentioned this game throughout the show. But it's
one of the more interesting games. And by the way,
tomorrow Red Zone Radio, Rich and I will get started
ten on the West coast, one o'clock on the East coast.
After we do four hours than Dan and Carrie will
have more Red Zone Radio for three hours after that. Now,
one of the games we get on early tomorrow. By

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the way, we got eight games kicking off. You got
five in the afternoons. We both have loaded schedules. Eagles
at the Bengals. So the Eagles, for all that they
have not looked right now for yes, a while, a
long time, but they're still sitting there at four and
two right now, there are a half game behind the
Commanders in the NFC East, The Giants are worse than

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we even thought they were going to be, and the
Cowboys are just trying to find their way. And then
you have the Bengals, who inexplicably open their season losing
it home to the Patriots, who haven't won since. But
now Joe Burrow's played well all season long, and now
all of a sudden, the Bengals are beginning to find
their way. Eagles at the Bengals. How you can look

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at that game tomorrow?

Speaker 3 (01:17:20):
I look at it in the way that what you're
just alluding to. Burrows has been great, The offense has
been great outside of Game one, defense is starting to
catch up. The Eagles. They're not a good team, but
the records.

Speaker 2 (01:17:35):
One has played well.

Speaker 3 (01:17:36):
He has played well, but that team isn't right either.
They keep winning inexplicably, never mean that four and two,
But I don't see them winning this game in Cincinnati.
Cincinnati is starting to get it figured out, and I
think they will make a run at the playoffs here.

Speaker 2 (01:17:51):
All right, So you look at that division, Yeah, that's
another interesting division, right. You got the Ravens, who I
think were all but you know, Cleveland of disaster. That's
mine and then you get the overchiever Steelers. Mike Tomlin
just right figures out a way. What did you think
of Russell Wilson's debut last.

Speaker 3 (01:18:11):
Russell Wilson was great, and I've been openly stating that
he said, never played this season. This should be Justin
Field's job. And you know that's knowing the pulse of
your team. Mike Tomlin's great at that. He put the
guy in and he goes out there and he delivers,
and so never questioned. Mike Tomlin's what I'm figuring out right.
He's a Hall of Fame coach.

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
Obviously he has a better resume than Bill Cower, who's
in the Hall of Fame. But I just I found
it interesting when Fields got word that they were going
to go Russell Wilson, and Fields basically said, yeah, I
haven't done enough.

Speaker 3 (01:18:44):
I don't think he believed that, but I think he
did the corporate He don't have to say that. I
mean he said it, he did. I know that was bad.
So what is his future in Pittsburgh? Justin Fields? Does
he have a future? I don't think he does. If
they if he did, we would see him longer to
actually get that figure it out. So I don't know
what that looks like, but I don't think it's in Pittsburgh.
All right, one more question for you. Yep your Jets, Yep,

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you're Jets. That's so funny how they're my team always.

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
By the way, has there ever been an interim coach fired?
I mean, I mean, okay, so they're not going to
make any more coaching changes.

Speaker 3 (01:19:19):
We know that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:22):
Is it fixable? I mean, it's two and five. You
know you're already three games behind the Bills. But I
mean you're not done. Obviously, you just got to get
on a roll. Obviously you better win at New England.
But I don't know if it's fixable. But you talked
about just the chemistry on that team is non existent.

Speaker 3 (01:19:42):
There's no fun. You gotta have fun playing football. It's
not all about execution all the time. It is. It's
a big part of it. But if you're not having
fun and you're worried about mistakes, that's what it looks
like from them, and it's just deflating.

Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
See a lot of people would say that part of
it's overrated. It's not because it's not just on Sundays
having fun.

Speaker 3 (01:19:59):
It's the whole. We've got to enjoy the people you
work with, Yes, And if you don't, you're not gonna
win and actually walk onto that field as a team.

Speaker 2 (01:20:07):
Keep it air, much more coming up on Fox Sports
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