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October 27, 2024 119 mins

On a new Fox Sports Saturday, Aaron Torres and Jason Martin open the show reacting immediately following Game 2 of the World Series! The Dodgers took a 2-0 series lead, but may have lost Shohei Ohtani to injury in the process... What does this mean for the outlook of the rest of the series? MLB Insider Jon Paul Morosi joins the show to weigh in with his own thoughts and help set the stage for Game 3. Later, Aaron and J-Mart get into the biggest matchups from across the day of College Football: Ohio State narrowly escaped with a win vs. Nebraska... Notre Dame looked dominant in their win over Navy... All of that and plenty more on this edition of Fox Football Saturday! Plus, previewing the biggest NFL matchups and storylines of the weekend!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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You know, Jason Smith and Mike Harmon had the privilege
of being on as Game one of the World Series
went final right around this time last night. Well, we

(00:40):
have the privilege tonight, as de Sega just told you,
two on one out top of the ninth, the Dodgers
lead four to two, but the go ahead run is
at the plate. We got ourselves another thriller at Dodger Stadium.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
Jmart how you doing.

Speaker 4 (00:57):
It's wild? It really is, like there's there's some close
stuff happening right now. But yeah, the baseball has been
Last night was unreal. Tonight is getting dramatic late and
now there's some other big stories that are coming out
of the game as well. So it's kind of hard
right now because we're hosting in real time. Yes, a
huge event happening right in front of us, and it

(01:19):
looked like for a second there it was going to
be over before we went on the air, that it
was just going to be that quick of a game
because of Yamamoto and the way that he pitched. But
no such luck. If you're a Dodgers fan, this one's
getting a little bit too close for comfort.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yes, absolutely so.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
It was runners on first and second, and we just
had a hit batter, which will now load the bases again.

Speaker 4 (01:41):
Was that Rizzo? It was Rizzo. Yes, he's been hit
twice tonight. He gets hit all the time, Like I
think they even said this earlier. He gets hit more
than anybody in baseball. Seems like every pitch that's thrown
almost hits his wrist, like almost every single time. It's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Well, that one definitely got him. They're apparently pinch running
for him. Obviously he would be the go ahead run.
So yeah, four to two, the Dodgers duly top of
the ninth. They are two outs away. But obviously, you know,
a tension in Dodger Stadium. It's the opposite of last night,
where you know, the Yankees felt like they were in

(02:19):
complete control and then boom, Freddy Freeman with the first
ever walk off Grand Slam in a World Series game.
Anthony Volpi has stepped to the plate again. Bases are loaded,
Dodgers up four to two, top of the ninth, one out,
and Anthony Rizzo was just hit by a pitch. So
we'll keep you updated as this one goes on. J
Mark Dodgers looking up to go up two oh. We

(02:42):
gotta have the conversation though, even if they go up
two oh. A horrifying moment for Dodger fans because just
probably about twenty minutes ago in real time show, Heyo Tani,
the presumed nl MVP mister fifty to fifty, went to
steal a base and and you know, Frankly landed really

(03:03):
funny on his left non throwing shoulder or really it
was his left you know, left side of his body.
Was it his arm, was it his wrist? We do
not know as of right now, Jason, but he left
the game. It did not look good. And I mean
this is obviously a situation that we're going to continue
to monitor all night long see if we get any updates.
But the way that he was kind of holding that

(03:25):
side of his body. It did not look good. It
looked like disager is confirming it was a shoulder. You
can't can't feel good if you're a Dodgers fan right now, No.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
And now you have to wait for severity. So the
Japanese broadcast, the interpreters like were able to kind of
read what Otani was saying out there, and he said,
I popped my shoulder like I popped my shoulder out,
So there's some degree it would appear of dislocation. We
don't know. I think Tom Verducci said, we have no
idea on the severity yet. But the question just becomes

(03:57):
how does that affect him at the plate? But you
mentioned a very important point there, being that it was
his left shoulder, and that being his non throwing shoulder
is critical because if it does turn out that that's
the one, you know, if it had been the other one,
you know, that could have been the end of pitching
in the future. Who knows what. So they may have
dodged a bullet there, although we're gonna have to find

(04:18):
out how serious that was. In the moment, it looked
pretty bad.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
It did look bad.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
He had's funny mentioned that not funny, but I guess ironic,
because that was my first thought when he grabbed kind
of that side of his body. His first first it
looked like his elbow clearly was his shoulder. But I
just bring it up because that was my first thought.
Is was it something with the elbow, the multi time
surgically repaired elbow. And to your point, is that the
end of his pitching career. By the way, we do

(04:43):
have a strikeout at Dodger Stadium, Dodgers one out away
from taking a two to zero series lead. Again, for
those of you who are just joining us, Dodgers up
four to two, top of the ninth, the bases are
loaded with the Yankees down to their final out in
the game, as as they did, just get a strikeout.
But yeah, j Mart, you know, I don't know what

(05:05):
else there is to add. I mean, you know, you
and I were texted with with producer Ian before the show.
You know, I think it's interesting. I mean, you know,
no lead is safe in baseball. We get all that.
But Otani, By the way, the Dodgers are making a
pitching change, bringing in the lefty pitcher to face Austin
Wells here in just a matter of minutes. So again,
two outs bottom or top of the ninth excuse me,

(05:27):
Dodgers up four to two, but the bases are loaded,
obviously that would mean the go ahead run is at
first base. Pitching changes on the way. We'll keep you
posted as that one goes final. But jmart to a
point that you brought up to our group chat. You know,
listen one, you know, not here to question managerial decisions,
but show hey Otani how valuable he is to your

(05:50):
team stealing up three whatever it was, you know, seventh
eighth inning. I don't know if it's questionable or not,
but I think it is a question that Dave Roberts
will probably get after the game of you know, with it,
you know, you're potentially two games away from clinching a
world championship. Do you want to put him in harm's
way like that? You know, it's tough to say that
it's the wrong move, but it certainly is kind of

(06:12):
an interesting one.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
You know, Yeah, it is very difficult, and I even said,
like it's it's it's tough to criticize. It's easy to
criticize after the fact because something happened, yes, but it's
not something that happens routinely. Guys don't get hurt like
that all the time. It just felt like, you're up three,
it's Otani with two outs. I'm not sure what you're

(06:33):
accomplishing by doing that, Like I there doesn't seem to
be a reward to it, Like, Okay, he steals a base,
then what like great, we know how good he is.
But it seems like to me there is a risk,
even if it's small, and there is no reward. And
the issue is if if nothing happens, nobody says, wow,
I can't believe he they sent him, But the fact

(06:55):
that he got hurt changes everything because then it's just like,
well wait what that seems like an un necessary thing
to have done. But it's it's hard because you're up three.
You understand that last night you won on a Grand Slam,
like and you were down at the time, Like there's
I get it. I understand that you're constantly trying to
do the best thing to score more runs and more runs.

(07:17):
But you're gonna get second guests if this happens. So
it's sort of it's sort of unfair. But the other
issue is Dave Roberts has had some questionable decisions in
the past, which I think then kind of harms him
in a situation like this, where if people wanted to
dog pile on him, you have an opportunity through this. So,

(07:37):
I mean, I don't know what to say about it
other than it seems like there was a risk and
there was almost no reward.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Yes, by the way, keeping everybody updated, Okay, we do
have a deep fly ball the center field, but it
is an out. The Dodgers have officially one pitch. The
new pitcher came in and was able to retire the
final batter. For people just joining us, the Dodgers have
just won Game two in Los Angeles four to two.

(08:07):
Your final score. The Yankees loaded the bases in the
top of the ninth with one out. They could not
get any runs home as well. They got to run
home in the ninth, but they could not get home
the necessary runs. After loading the bases, Dodgers officially win
four to two. J Mart, they go back to New
York up to nothing again for everybody just joining us.
The big news, though, of course, is sho Hao Tani

(08:29):
leaving the game with what appeared to be a shoulder
injury to his non throwing shoulder while trying to steal
it basically in the game Jmartin yep.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
And now we just have to find out how much,
if at all, that's going to hamper him going forward.
It sounds it sounded like, yeah, he can potentially still play,
but is he going to be less effective? That's why
it's critical if you're the Dodgers to get both these
home games. I saw some people just I was reading

(08:59):
through some comments on some live feeds, and people were
just like, Oh, this is gonna be a sweep in
all this, It's like, well, I mean they won two
home games. Yeah, like they're very, very good, but it
doesn't feel like a sweep. Although because of the drama
and because of the emotion involved in the way Game
one was played out, it definitely made me think the

(09:19):
Dodgers are gonna win the series because it's just hard
to come back from that and then to come out
tonight and just the Yankees until the ninth couldn't hit anything.
I mean, Soto hit a home run and literally that
was the only hit surrendered by Yamamoto, So the only
other thing that got hit was Rizzo twice by a baseball. Sure,
it seemed like so like it It definitely it feels

(09:42):
like it's the Dodgers series to lose. But that's more
because of the emotion involved in the high of Game
one than it is them being up two to zero
in a seven game series where they hosted both games.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah, and for people just joining us, Yoshnobu Yama, Yoto, Yama, moto,
excuse me, six and a third innings pitch one hit,
as J Mart said, a solo home run to Juan
Soto early.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
He was the star of the game.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
He's actually being interviewed by the broadcast team as we speak.
The Dodgers do win that game four to two. Yeah,
J Mart, you know the emotional swings and I think
you know, listen, the series definitely isn't over. As you
go back to New York. The oldest cliche in sports
is that no series is over. You know, the series

(10:25):
doesn't begin until the home team loses a game. But
I will tell you, I do think the emotions of
as you said, how Game one was decided, where the
Yankees had it in control, they were down to one out,
and then the opposite tonight. I mean that is I mean,
it is kind of interesting the emotional toll that those
first two games would take where you're one out away
from taking Game one at Dodger Stadium. We know what

(10:47):
Freddie Freeman did. Then you trail for virtually the entire game.
Dodgers jump out to a three to one lead in
the third inning and you're trying to play catch up
from there. All of a sudden, you're in the ninth inning,
you have the bases loaded, one run has crossed the plate.
You have again the bases loaded. You can't get those
runs home. So listen, you know, we'll let the professional

(11:07):
athletes tell us at the podium what it's like and
how you feel and the emotion of two games really
getting away from you. But that's that's tough to overcome
because you easily could have won a second one. You
had some momentum in the top of the ninth in
the second you could have won the first one. You
had momentum the top.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
Of the ninth. The second one you couldn't capture either.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
Jmart Yeah, and so now again it's too Oh, but
now the Yankees have to win four or five to
win the series. Do I think they can do that
against this Dodgers lineup? I mean, they're gonna have to
play the games but no, not really. Again, you had
that opportunity right in front of you tonight and weren't
able to pull the Freeman in reverse. You go back

(11:45):
to New York, you have one day off until you go.
When you play on Monday, we find out what's going
on with Otani. But the thing about the Dodgers, and
this is true with the Yankees too, but I think
it's certainly more true about the Dodgers. Just the roster
is so loaded. There's almost nobody could could deal with
losing a show. Hey o Tani if they had to
for a game or two. The Dodgers actually probably could.

(12:08):
And that's that's kind of mind boggling, because he's worth
every penny. But at the same time, they're stacked, and
they're still so dangerous, and if you don't pitch perfectly,
they're going to make you pay. And that's what you
saw tonight. Just a little bit off was all it
took to take the guy deep three times and really

(12:31):
put you in a put you in a situation where
you weren't able to come back.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
So we do have a final at Dodger Stadium. The
Dodgers win four to two to take a two to
zero series lead, by the way, keeping the updated on
a couple college football scores. You know, Jamar's not often
we don't leave with college football, but obviously World Series
taking center stage tonight. You know, Texas A and M
is looking like they are going to close out a
big home win. They're up thirty five twenty three, four

(12:56):
minutes to go, they have the ball in the red zone.
Texas A and M believe it or not, the only
undefeated team and SEC play, So if they win this one,
or if they win, they will be the only.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
Undefeated team in SEC play.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
So if they win this one, you know, it isn't
too early to start talking about a potential trip to
the SEC championship game here as we enter November. But
they have a thirty five to twenty three lead. Late
in that game, LSU quarterback Garrett Nusmyer, you feel bad,
but he's really kind of melted down three interceptions all
in the second half. Also the late start in Boulder, Colorado,

(13:30):
the Colorado Buffalo is up fourteen to seven on the
Cincinnati Bearcats.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Will keep you posting on that one throughout the evening.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
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Speaker 2 (14:37):
Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Eric Torris, Jason Martin
broadcasting live from the Tireraq dot com studios. If you're
just joining us, we do have a final at Dodgers
Stadium the Dodgers have taken Game two of the World
Series four to two. Yankees scored a run in the
bottom of the top of the ninth excuse me, and

(14:58):
loaded the bases, but the Dodgers were able to get
out of it. And now they go back to New
York up to nothing. I'll tell you what. There is
nobody better to join us to discuss this game the
series as a whole than our Fox Sports Radio MLB insider.
He was kind enough to join us last Saturday after

(15:18):
the Yankees clinched the AL Championship, and he is back tonight.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
John Paul Morose C JP. What's going on, man.

Speaker 6 (15:25):
Aaron and Jason. Good evening, my friends, and what a
world series that we had already two Dodger wins. But
I have the distinct impression here that this series is
not over yet, far from over, as it moves back
to the Bronx for Game three.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
JP, I actually, you know, we'll get to the Otadi
stuff in half a second, but I wanted to ask
you. You know, you've been in a million clubhouses, what is
the balance of like the Yankees, right, you look at them,
they're they're they're literally an out of way last night
from taking Game one, we know what happened with the
Freddie Freeman walk off Grand Slam, and then the opposite
to where you're trailing essentially the entire game and you

(16:04):
still find yourself in position late to steal a game
at Dodger Stadium. You come up with neither these are
professional athletes, but the emotions of a World Series. I mean,
what is the balance between do you think the Yankees'
ability to just say put it behind them? But also
I just feel like the way those two games ended
both easily could have gone the other way. Is that

(16:27):
gonna have any sort of trickle down effect throughout this series?

Speaker 6 (16:29):
It should not. And knowing the Yankees, you know, I
haven't covered them during the course of the season. They're
a really professional group and I think their leadership will
set the right tone. But an O two deficit is
an O two deficit, and you think back to we've
seen any number of seven game series where teams that
have taken it to nothing lead have gone on and

(16:51):
lost those series. So they've got the talent to turn
it around. They're certain that they know they're good enough
to have this being at least a one to one series,
and maybe they might even say, hey, we could have
easily won the first two games, and that would be
that's correct. I mean there are one swing away and
both games basically, but I think that going home will

(17:13):
help you. You'll have your home crowd behind you. But
they do so knowing that Game three is a must
game for them. And yes, you could talk about the
Red Sox of four, but that was a one in
a in a lifetime situation. So you need to you know,
you have to win game three. Clark Schmid's been good

(17:33):
for them, and then if you win that game and
it's two to one, and then then it's a series again.
But there's there's no mistaking the urgency of the moment
and the other part of this. And it's it's not
fair to say that it's that it's on one person,
but Judge needs to be Judge at some point. He
has got to come out of this if this team's

(17:55):
gonna win the World Series. And that's that's not a
hot take, that's not pointing fingers. He's the best right
and enter in the sport, and so it is it's
really hard to believe that they can beat the Dodgers
without him getting out of this slump that he's.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
In right now, So John, because we'll just do it logically,
because you just went there. I was going to ask
that later because the Otawni stories kind of dwarfed it.
But since you mentioned Judge, is there any real reason
for this slump or is it just something that happens?
Like I had seen various stuff about how I read
some terrible article about how Aaron Judge was not built

(18:29):
for this time of year. I have no idea what
that means. But what do you look at Judge? What
is he doing? Is he chasing bad pitching? What's happening
right now?

Speaker 6 (18:39):
So it's an important question obviously, And I'll say I
don't buy any notion that he doesn't play well under pressure.
I think that's silly. He hit sixty two home runs
where the weight of the sports world was tracking his
every swing and that was you know, again, that was
a different kind of pressure, but that was immense pressure

(19:00):
and he lived up to that. So he can clearly
do it. There's no issue with that. And oh, by
the way, last week in Cleveland, he had a game
dying homer late in that game in the eighth inning
to put the Yankees in position to have a chance
to win that game. So it's not as though he's
struggled the entire month. He's certainly been below what his

(19:21):
regular season numbers are. He's not the first great player
to have that happen. That was the case for Barry
Bonds until it wasn't. It was the case for any
number of players until they weren't and they were able
to change it around. Not everybody's big Poppy who seems
to be seemed to be great from the very beginning
of his playoff career, or Jeter for that matter. That's
why they're the exception. So I think the issue that

(19:44):
I saw with Aaron, especially in his last at Bad
where try and then got him at a pitch that
was off of the plate. If good pitchers believe they
don't have to give you a strike to get you out,
you're not going to see many strikes. And he struck
out in a pitch that was outside the zone. It
was a spinner that was off the plate, and he's

(20:04):
going to keep seeing that now. I think the judge,
because of how big he is and just how many
moving parts he has in his swing, he is a
little more susceptible to when there's a long layoff getting
out of rhythm. It happened. I think before the Royal
Series he got back into it. He had better at baths,

(20:25):
I thought, against Cleveland, and then another five or six
days off and now some tougher games and tougher at
bats with the Dodgers. So I think that the layoffs
for him are bigger issues than a lot of other guys,
and he just has to find a way to get
into it. I think that the good news for the
Yankees is he seems to get better as the series
go on, but he's going to have to answer I

(20:47):
think it a huge way in Game three.

Speaker 4 (20:49):
Yeah, so all right, so we mentioned that, so now
we can ask about Otani real quickly. So talk me
down off this ledge, because I don't know that it's
fair to even question this. But I immediately when I
saw it, maybe because it's Dave Roberts, it took me
there sooner. It was just why exactly is Otani doing
that at that point in the game, up three runs
in that circumstance, Like I understand that that's not the

(21:11):
kind of injuries that generally happens on a play like that.
But it seemed like the only thing that could happen.
There was more risk. There wasn't really a reward that
was going to happen immediately there. So obviously we're not
talking about it. If he doesn't get hurt, nobody's going
to say why would he have done that? But he
did get hurt. So what's your reaction to Otani in
that scenario.

Speaker 6 (21:31):
Well, I think, first of all, he's had pretty much
a green light all season long. Now he has not
he has not stolen bases in the postseason for whatever reason,
but he still has the green light because he just
had the first fifty to fifty season of the industry
of the game. So I mean, he's he's earned the
right to be able to run whenever he wants to,

(21:51):
and I think he saw a spot there. But then again,
the game is close. Yes, you're leading, so it's maybe
not necessarily a classic stolen base situation, but if you
feel you could take the base, you do it because
at the very least strategically, it forces the Yankees to
pay more attention to you on the basis later on
in the series. I mean, there's there are reasons to

(22:13):
do it, and the biggest reason is he's been great
at that all season long, So I have a hard
time taking that away from him. And I don't think
that that was at all a case where Dave Roberts
said steal. It's basically an idea of Showy, you got
the green light. That's about ninety nine percent sure that
that's the case, that that was not an ordered steal

(22:33):
by Dave Roberts. That was Showy having the green light
and seeing an opportunity there. Now, in terms of what's
what's going on, you know, obviously we're speaking in real
time here after the game. We don't know if that
was a dislocation, a subluxation. He said. According to NHK
that Joe Davis relaid on the broadcast that he used

(22:55):
the phraseology on the field, according to the field mics,
that my shoulder popped out in Japanese. What that means
from a medical diagnosis, No one knows if it's if
it's a full dislocation. If I said, if it's it's
difficult to imagine him playing again in this series if
if it is that. But we don't know if it's that,

(23:16):
so I think we have to we have to to
watch that carefully. But if you just look at the
history of players that have had if again, if the
term ends up being we don't know yet, but if
the term ends up being dislocation, that was the case
for Trevor Story this year for Boston. He missed a
ton of time. Djungu Lee with the Giants missed a
ton of time, so that that would be not good

(23:37):
for the balance of this season. But again, it's his
left shoulder, so one would assume that in terms of
long term health, less of a concern obviously than the right.
But here and now, the Dodgers want to know what
his status is for Game three, and I think whatever
word is put on it, subluxation dislocation, will tell us

(23:58):
a lot about how serious it is.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
John Paul Morossi joining us here on Fox Sports Radio,
eron tors. Jason Martin, by the way, keeping the update
on the late college football game. Texas A and M
has beaten LSU thirty eight to twenty three. Texas A
and M believe it or not, the only undefeated team
in SEC play this season. We'll get to some college
football later, but we want to take advantage of having
JP while we can.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
JP, let's stay on the show hey stuff for half
a second.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
It's a dumb question by me, but I'm gonna ask
it anyway. You talk just a second ago about the
mental toughness, the mental resilience of the Yankees, a professional
ball club gonna put behind these two games in Los
Angeles and go back to New York and obviously try
to win three straight there. Tell us about the mental
toughness of this Dodgers team because they've dealt with so

(24:44):
many injuries throughout the season. But obviously, you know, listen,
we all understand that losing a potentially I want to
be clear, potentially losing an MVP candidate in sho Hey
Otani is just crushing. How do you think that locker
room would react to news if it does not come
out very positive?

Speaker 6 (25:01):
Right? Well, I think they've done a very admirable job
to your point, all season long of dealing with setbacks
and guys that have been out, and all the pitching
that they've had heard and even Freeman who's playing on
one leg, and we'll see, certainly think for Freddy the
long flight what that will mean in terms of how
he's able to keep keep that ankle move. And obviously

(25:22):
he's hoverarned back to back game, so he's doing okay,
just just fine right now. I think part of this
is the way the lineup is constructed where even you
know and Otani's still had some good moments in this postseason.
It was kind of up and down a little bit
early on. But I think they've this has been a
case of the Dodgers collectively won through nine at different

(25:45):
times this month, finding guys to carry the freight, whether
it was Freeman or Bets or Tayaskar or Key k Yes, Otani,
will Smith with some timely sackflies and then situational hitting.
So they've been I think a good team talked about him.
Tommy Edmond certainly again tonight home run. So I think
they're probably in their present constitution better able to withstand

(26:11):
an absence from Otani if it happens then they were
when the playoffs began, because I think that they know
more about Edmund the playoff performer, They know more about Taoscar,
they know more about Kei k. Freddie is I think
healthier now than he was earlier on in the month
of October. So there's the Dodgers have proven it time
and time again, and so if Otani's name is not

(26:34):
in that lineup for Game three, I think that the
Dodgers still feel great about their chances just because of
how they have been winning games, and also how deep
the Yankee struggles are on the opposite side Judge and
waiting for him to get going. I think the Dodgers,
probably like their team right now, went through nine better

(26:54):
than what the Yankees have at the moment.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
Was the Freeman Grass the most memorable Dodgers moment since
the Gibson home run?

Speaker 6 (27:05):
I think so. Of course, you got the Justin Turner
walk off, which was a big one in the playoffs,
and there was the month the homer in the World
Series in twenty eighteen, which was epic. It was one
of the greatest World Series games ever. So it's I
realized fully that that we're kind of in the moment now.
But when you consider who hit it, where he hit it,

(27:30):
Joe Davis's calls part of it, I think that that
helps the way that it's it's going to be remembered
for a long time as just how much Joe crushed
it in the moment, and that's it's interesting how how
we remember things and who's on the mic how it's
called the staging of it all and just everything, and
I think that has all the ingredients of an amazing

(27:52):
baseball moment. So, you know, it's one of those things
where the Gibson homer is great in and of itself,
but it's a better story because the Dodgers won that
World Series. If the A's had won the next four games,
we wouldn't look at it the same way. It would
be almost like the Raj Davis homer for Cleveland, which

(28:12):
is an amazing moment, but of course they didn't win.
And so I think that that that's what this will
come down to. If the Dodgers win this series, I
think it's going to be right there in the greatest
Dodger moment since they moved West, with the Kofax, perfect game,
with Kershaw's no hitter, with Gibson, with you name it.
You know, certainly I would put Monthly from five six

(28:35):
years ago now in that category, even though they didn't
win that World Series. But I think it's it's easily
right now if they win a top five Los Angeles
Dodgers moment. Ever, in my.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
Opinion, unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
John Paul Morossi joining us our Fox Sports Radio MLB insider, JP,
will let you go on this one.

Speaker 4 (28:51):
Listen.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
I know it's tough to say without knowing the status
of Otani, but what do you expect Monday night, Game
three in the Bronx.

Speaker 6 (28:57):
I think the Yankees find a way to win for
a variety of reasons. I think that the Dodgers have
been the better team so far, but the gap is
not that big, and so the Yankees I think at
home they'll find a way to answer. But I've been
there in that ballpark before when I've expected the Yankees
to answer, and when they don't, that place can get

(29:19):
really uneasy and really quiet, really quickly, And so I
think that it's almost Yes, it's up to the players
to keep it going, but the fans, they've got their
piece here to make sure that things do not turn
negative if they happen to be trailing or in a
tight game in the middle innings as well.

Speaker 4 (29:36):
Hey, JP, so we're gonna let him go.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
I got another one too, but you go first, James.
It's okay, Well.

Speaker 4 (29:42):
I got two. Actually awesome, they're both there. They're just
huge importance.

Speaker 6 (29:47):
One.

Speaker 4 (29:47):
Why does Anthony Rizzo get hit so much by by
baseballs because he got hit twice.

Speaker 6 (29:54):
He stands on the plate, So that's that's a that's
a quick and easy answer. He's he's not afraid. He's
big team guy, and he stands as close to the
plane as anybody in Major League Baseball.

Speaker 4 (30:05):
Well, some other people should probably try that then, because
it gets him on base and awful lot. And then
the other one. I think the whole world wants to
know what's your favorite ice Cube song? Based on how
the World Series started tonight.

Speaker 6 (30:16):
I think you have to say today was a good.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
Day, right, Oh, for Dodgers fans, it was all right.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
I think you're right. I do think that's the right
answer objectively, just to throw that out.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
There now to my question, and this this is much
more subjective, but I was curious you talked about the
fans and the impact. So this is just such a
torre as just stealing the spotlight and making it about me.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
But I'm just curious about this.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
I've been to a million games at the old Yankee Stadium,
and it seemed like there was an incredible you know,
especially October mystique. Obviously, you know, haven't won a World
Series since own nine. But I'm just curious. How does
that the new ballpark, which isn't new, it's like fifteen
years old at this point, but how does it compare
on those October nights when when when the Yankees need
to win.

Speaker 6 (30:57):
It's close, it's close, it's not it's not the old place,
it's not. And I've been able to cover big games
in both places. I consider myself very fortunate to have
done that. The old place, there's no replicating that. But
the new place is close. It's close, and I've covered
some Yankee walkoffs in big moments at that ballpark, especially

(31:21):
in the postseason. It gets loud, it gets intimidating, and
the one thing you'd have to say is that the
Dodger penn the late innings. I think Vestia came in
and saved the day today, but trying it has not
been sharp and so and I think that when you're
trying to close out a game on the road at
Yankee Stadium, it does get tougher. So I think it's

(31:41):
it is a similar vibe to the old place, not
exactly the same, but it's close, and the Yankees are
have to leverage every bit of that mystique to try
to get this series back in their favor here over
these next few games.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
He is JP Morossi, our Fox Sports Radio MLB insider, JP, man,
we appreciate the time.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
Game two is in the books.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
I know you're gonna be all over this network this
coming week, but thank you so much. We'll be listening,
we'll be watching, and we appreciate your time.

Speaker 3 (32:08):
JP.

Speaker 6 (32:08):
Thank you, Thanks so much, my friends. I really appreciate it,
and enjoy the rest of this great world series.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
It has been a great world series, and there is
nobody better to break it down than JP Morosi.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
Makes sure to Michigan, Michigan, Alum, Michigan Alum.

Speaker 4 (32:20):
Yes they won tonight.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
They did.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
That's right, all right? How about them? Maybe even completed
a pass or two. Let's keep the Sega for an
update on that.

Speaker 7 (32:27):
As far as the World series, Game two, four to
two Dodgers was the final over the Yankees, LA up
two games to none, but there was the seventh inning
injury to show Hey Otani, he left with the shoulder problem,
hurt sliding into second base. This was the play on
Fox TV in time.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
But he's there for two story based attempts at this Postseuson.

Speaker 7 (32:46):
And Otani stays down and he's in some pain. Trainer
comes out and then what we referenced, this is the
audio that the Japanese broadcaster NHK was hearing as the
trainer came out to ten to the injured player, and
a reporter in Japanese translate this what the mic picked up.

(33:09):
Otani says, first shoulder And the question is really which
one answer left? Did it pop out? Otani says, I
think so. The Trevor story reference that John just made
is when he was diving for a ball and got
injured with the shoulder. He wound up having surgery because
they found a fracture at the rim of the shoulder.
There is remember the Cody Bellinger popped out injury against

(33:31):
the Braves after a home running Game seven of the
NLCS in twenty twenty. They were going for the forearm
batch with a teammate in celebration. He popped out. His
shoulder was in immediate pain, went to the locker room,
they popped it back in and he wound up playing
every World Series game that series started a couple of
days later. So there are a couple of options. And
you guys mentioned Aaron Judge who was zero for four

(33:53):
with three strikeouts. Tonight, AP reports that Aaron Judge now
has the highest strikeout rate in the history of postseason
over thirty four percent of his at bats have ended
in strikeouts. He's number one on the list of those
with at least two hundred plate appearances in postseason history.
Game three is Monday night at Yankee Stadium. As for

(34:13):
college football, they're winding down the clock at Kansas State.
K State has beaten Kansas twenty nine twenty seven. They're
in overtime with SMU leading twenty eight twenty seven at Duke.
Duke is going for two as we speak. Miami did
beat Florida State thirty six to fourteen, Penn State a
winner at Wisconsin twenty eight to thirteen, Texas A and

(34:35):
m at home beat LSU in a comeback thirty eight
to twenty three.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Back to you, thank you so much to Seger was
apologize forgetting you a little bit late this segment, but
you know, lots of breakdown Tonight Fox Sports Radio aeron
towards Jason Martin will come back more Game two World Series.
All sketch caught up on a busy, busy day in
college football. This is Fox Sports thirty.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
Please you're listening to Fox Sports.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio air towards Jason Barton,
broadcasting live from the Tireraq dot com studios. Jmart want
to put a little bit of a bow on our
Game two coverage of the World Series for people just
joining us. The Los Angeles Dodgers did win Game two
four to two. As a final, Yankees put one home

(35:22):
in the ninth. Have the bases loaded before the Dodgers
get out of it? Two quick things that I want
to look ahead to Game three, but before we do,
I just want to take half a second to say this, producer, Ian,
if you have the sound from last night or from
Friday night walk off Game one, go ahead, play it
real quick.

Speaker 4 (35:42):
Portas delivered.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
Dyes.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
So that was Joe Davis, J Mart and so I
was out at a bar watching the game. I did
not hear it live. I know we're twenty four hours
removed from game one. I know we've already moved on
to game two. I know we have a final in
Game two. I just had to take a second and say,
you know, we spend so much time maybe criticizing broadcasters
and announcers. Tom Brady, How good is he? How about

(36:23):
this guy? How about that girl?

Speaker 3 (36:25):
Whatever?

Speaker 2 (36:26):
For Joe Davis in that moment to have the awareness,
the wherewithal, the understanding of Dodgers' history, and I know
he's the Dodgers, you know TV guy, he does one
hundred and sixty two games a year.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
Like I just I heard that this.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
Morning and I was just so blown away that in
that moment, Lefty batter right field bleachers walk off home
run Game one. It's just to me one of the
great broadcasting moments ever, not just because he nailed the call,
but because of the history and the awareness that went

(37:03):
into it.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
It was unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
Jmar Yeah, it was. I mean, you can't ask for
more than that to understand the magnitude of the moment,
and as you mentioned, the history that preceded it, and
just I mean it was picture perfect, just the volume
in terms of the passion involved, it wasn't over the top,
it was completely earned. The pacing was where it needed

(37:26):
to be. I mean, it was an A plus And
that might be the only time in your career you
get a chance to make that call and you can
look back on it and just say, yeah, I nailed that.
Because he did. It was perfect.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
Yeah, it was for people who don't know, that was
almost verbatim Vince Scully's call of Game one of the
World Series. Kirk Gibson walk off, Lefty, all that good stuff.
And you know, we'll see if history repeats itself. As
JP Morosi said that Freddie Freeman moment is going to
carry through time, specifically if the Dodgers go on and

(37:57):
win the series really quickly. Just want to go ahead
and look go look ahead to Game three in New
York on Monday night, Jmark, you know we talked about
it earlier. By the way, if anybody missed it, JP
Morosi did, just join us. I'm just curious for your perspective.
You know, series is going back to New York. Walker
Bueller on the mound for for the Dodgers, Clark Schmid

(38:18):
on the mound for the Yankees. By the way, it
looks like ticket get in price is seven hundred and
seventy eight dollars, So the Bronx is gonna be rocking.
What do you expect when these two teams take the
field Monday night in the Bronx.

Speaker 4 (38:32):
I tend to feel the same way. Morosi does. I
find it hard to believe the Yankees won't find a
way to win Game three, I mean Game four. I
think it's gonna be the one whoever wins Game four
wins the series, because I think it'll be two to
one going there. If it's three, oho series is over,
They're not coming back to win four. I mean, I
know stranger things have happened in the history of sports,
but I can't see that scenario. But I think it's

(38:54):
gonna be as you mentioned, like it's gonna be rocking
in the Bronx. It's gonna be the exact opposite of
that of that's a Dodger situation. I feel like the
Yankees batch are gonna wake up just a little bit.
And I mean, if there was a moment for Aaron
Judge to kind of stop this. I've struck out eighteen
times this postseason. I'm under two hundred, nearing like a
one fifty average right now in the postseason. Doing it

(39:17):
in front of the home crowd in Game three and
in a must if you're the Yankees, it just that
seems like it's written in the stars. That's absolutely what
should happen.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
Yeah, we'll see what happens in eight oh eight First
pitch Monday Night in the Bronx again Walker Bueller and
Clark Schmidt on the mound in that game. For people
just joining us, the Dodgers did go up two to
zero in the series, and JP morose he did join us.
You can catch that on podcast. By the way, one
quick late college football score, A Shadoor Sanders touchdown pass

(39:47):
to Travis Hunter gives Colorado a twenty four to fourteen lead.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
Right before the half.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Speaking of college football, Jamart wasn't the sexiest day in
college football, but a lot of significant stuff happened. We're
gonna come back and talk about all of it. How
about Texas A and M and the SEC Ohio State?
Is it time to worry? Plus much more on a
busy day in college football. This is Fox Sports thirty.

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(40:33):
The Way tire buying should be we have hit the
midnight Eastern hour. If you missed our one, it was
basically wall to wall baseball.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
The Dodgers do get a game to win in the
World Series.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
They're up to oh a four to two victory at
Dodgers Stadium. The series now shifts back to New York.
By the way, not for nothing. It doesn't really have
anything to do with anything. Uh, Dodgers, Dodgers, Yankees going
up head to head with Giants Steelers for Monday night football.
We'll be curious where the New York audience goes. I
think I know where they'll go. But uh, I don't know.

(41:08):
That doesn't have anything to do with anything. But I'll
just be curious. You know, how how how New York
candles that one JMRT with with Monday night football but
a bad a bad team on Monday night football against
a boring opponent as opposed to Game three of the
World Series.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (41:24):
Yeah, I think that's it advertising of a football matchup.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
I know where I would be watching, I have.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
I'm not a Giants or Yankees fan, but but yeah,
Game three Monday night and as we mentioned, Monday Night
football Giants and Steelers.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
All right, let's switch gears college football. Jmart.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
We love talking college football, but obviously baseball took center
stage here on this on this Saturday night, and.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
I guess the place we probably should start. Uh.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
You know, it was a big one, you know, for
for a national audience. You know, the last couple of weeks,
we've had Oregon, Ohio State, we've had Alabama, Georgia, we've
had Georgia, Texas. On paper, Texas A and M LSU
doesn't look quite as big. But ironically or not ironically,
but these were the only two teams in the SEC

(42:16):
that were undefeated coming into today in league play, and
so Texas already Texas suffered a loss last week, Georgia
lost at Bama. Obama's obviously taken a couple losses. Tennessee
has taken a loss early in the season as well.
So this was one with major stakes in the SEC
and in the SEC title race.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
As crazy as it sounds.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
I mean, LSU and A and M on paper don't
necessarily feel like to the two best teams or two
of the three best teams or whatever. But Texas A
and M gets to win thirty eight to twenty three.
The big story here A and M. In the third
quarter made a quarterback change. They went to a player
named Marcel Reid. For people who don't follow A and M.

(43:01):
Connor Wigman was the starter to start the year, he
got hurt. Marcel Reid came in, led him to a
bunch of victories. When Connor Wegman came back, he got
the starting nod back. Well, third quarter, they go to
Marcel Reid. How about this, He only throws two passes.

Speaker 4 (43:15):
Fregman was not happy about it either. I know him
on the side. Yes, he was not thrilled with that choice.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
Yes, I did see that. He was also six of
eighteen passing for sixty four yards in the game. But
Marcel Reid comes in two passes completed for seventy yards,
but nine rushes for sixty two yards, three rushing touchdowns,
including a rushing touchdown on his first play. Texas A
and M wins thirty eight to twenty three. J mart

(43:42):
And you look at the SEC standings Texas A and M.
Honestly a program that's taken quite a bit of score
in here on the Tours and Martin Show over the
last couple of years. Five and oher and SEC play
in Did you have Texas A and M being in
sole possession of first place heading into November and you're
preseason ranking steam mark?

Speaker 4 (44:01):
No, not at all. But I mean, look, boy, Jimbo
to Mike Elko, and all of a sudden, you're seven
and one the question I asked you in the chat,
and I know this will take us into a larger conversation.
I certainly did not have them at the top, but
I have no idea. I have no concept in my
head as to whether or not LSU in Texas A

(44:25):
and M are good or how good they are, So
let me change that. I know they're good. Don't get
me wrong, I'm not suggesting they're bad football teams. I
have no idea how close to being like championship contenders
they are. And I've watched both of them play most
of their games this year, and I just have no
read on who and what they actually are, even though look,

(44:47):
there's a seven and one team and you're in the
SEC and the win over LSU tonight and the way
that you were able to just kind of adjust and
Elko made his decision and he was proven correct by
the results of the game. And Nussmeyer kind of detonated
in the second half of that game. But again, it's
a problem across college football, but definitely right now with
the SEC. I mean, that was number eight versus number fourteen,

(45:10):
and I wasn't super excited to watch the game going in,
even though I know it was going to just because
again like there's such unknown quantities to me, even though
we are far past now and halfway point of of
the year.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
Well, and I think it's gonna lead to an interesting
conversation as we get deeper into this new ear of
college football. From the perspective that you know, Lis, we
know all the changes in college football, but I think
one change that I think everybody liked on paper was
all of these conferences doing away with divisions. Right So,
like in the SE, maybe the SEC is not the

(45:44):
best example. In the Big Ten, we all knew Michigan,
Ohio State, Penn State every year were the two best,
were the three best teams, and who usually whoever won
the Ohio State Michigan game, that was the real Big
Ten championship and they just had to play somebody from
the West whatever. I bring it up, because we got
rid of divisions in all of these conferences, the two

(46:05):
best teams quote unquote, I say best with air quotes.
I know it's an audio medium. You can't see me,
but I'm saying I'm using air quotes. And I think
we all thought, oh, okay, it's gonna be awesome. We're
going to get Georgia and Alabama and Michigan, Ohio State
or Ohio State, Penn State or Ohio State, Oregon or Alabama,
georg whoever we think are the two best teams. But
what's happening is because the schedules are so imbalanced, Like

(46:27):
your point holds up like like A and have a
great win. If there's an A and M fan listening,
I'm sorry, it feels like we're trashing your program after
an incredible win and we're not at all. But I like,
you know, i'd be curious if we had a Bernie
Frado Vegas odds maker type on here. Like I don't
think Texas A and M would be favored against Georgia.
I don't think they'll be fair. They played Texas later
in the year. I don't think they're gonna be favored.

(46:49):
Probably wouldn't be favored on a neutral against Tennessee and
I just bring it up because Texas A and M
like eyeball tests, just eyeball tests, neutral field, not at home. Third,
fourth best team in the SEC, depending on how you
feel about Bama. Don't think they're better than Georgia, don't
think they're better in Texas. But the way this thing
is shaken up, they're probably now having inside track to

(47:11):
the SEC championship game. And I think it's going to
make trying to figure out, like who are the best
teams in these conferences and how like you know, and
you could kind of see the same thing happening in
the Big Ten where it's like Indiana, we like the story, but.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
Do we really think they're better than Ohio State and Oregon?

Speaker 2 (47:29):
But if you know, there's just I just think it's
interesting how the schedules are so imbalanced. It's creating a
team like Texas A and M in the SEC that
I don't feel like they're better than the top two
or three, but they have a pathway to the conference
chamionship game.

Speaker 3 (47:43):
I don't know if any of that made sense, but
hopefully yeah.

Speaker 4 (47:45):
I mean, look, there's a there's a severe lack because
of the sheer number of teams and possible matchups that
you could have in a in any given college football season,
there is a severe lack of like over lapping data
points where you can look at certain things that have
happened for a lot of teams in terms of common

(48:07):
opponents or certain results or certain things that are measurable.
There's just not as many of those as there are
in for example, the NFL or the NBA, or any
sport in which there's a lot of overlap in terms
of who plays who and when and all of those
scenarios like that. That's a problem. It makes things interesting
because like I watch Indiana, they're undefeated, what they did

(48:29):
to Nebraska, and then you watch Ohio State against Nebraska.
It gives you pause and you say, hmm, I mean
Indiana is obviously good. Still don't know how good they
are because their schedule is pretty soft and they haven't
been in a situation. I mean, last week's still the
most impressive thing they've done, and I think it helped
them that Nebraska played pretty well on the road against

(48:50):
Ohio State today. But I don't know how good they are.
I really don't. And then again you look at the
SEC and it's exactly the same way. I don't know
who B two, I don't know how this all, this
whole thing shakes out. It's just a very imperfect sport
in that way, and it has to be. There's not
another way to do it. You can't play one hundred
and fifty games a season where everybody plays everybody else.
It's not possible. So this is I don't think there's

(49:12):
a fix for this, but I do think it's going
to continually create scenarios like this where we're sort of
murky on whether or not these teams that are very
high ranked at times are good. Like, for example, another example,
I don't know how good Miami is. I mean, Miami,
I understand what the record is, but they probably it's

(49:34):
a pretty questionable call that got them past Virginia Tech.
They've had these comeback games, Like I think they're good,
but are they great? Or how close are they to
being a national champion? Like those are the questions that
I think are are much more amorphous and hard to
address in college football than any other sport.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
No, there's no doubt, and I think the expanding conference
is only complicating that. And then I would also say too,
and as I say, this is somebody who loves college football,
and I will shit, wasn't this way. But I just
think it's so obvious that the balance of power in
the Big Ten, in the SEC, because you mentioned a
team like Miami and it's just like they're not playing
Clemson in the regular season, and it's like it's just hard,

(50:13):
like like even tonight they're playing Florida State. Florida State
isn't good this year. You want to watch, you want
to take something out of it, but it's hard to
where As, uh, you know, in the SEC, like you know,
we got highlights of Texas Vandy, like Vandy's a tough out.
Uh whoever, Arkansas is a tough out a and M's
playing well ls Is, So it's just like you have

(50:33):
I don't know, it's just I find this whole transition
into this new year is so interesting because I think
we all thought it was gonna answer a lot of
questions and I don't think it is. I'll give you
another example, by the way, in the Big Ten, if
Ohio State wins out, Ohio State beats Penn State beats Indiana,

(50:54):
all those teams are gonna finish with one loss. Oregon
potentially undefeated, you have all these one loss and and
and and undefeated teams at the top, and it's just like, okay,
but but who's like who gets to go to the
championship game? You know, I'm sure in that case Ohio
State would, but like how good? I don't know, It's
just it's just to me.

Speaker 4 (51:11):
See, that's where your preseason thing becomes a problem. Yes,
And that's what I've said that before. Like, one of
the reasons I hate preseason rankings is because it creates
artificial obstacles for certain teams to have to overcome from
further behind, despite the fact that no one had accomplished
anything at the time when those rankings were put out.
Ohio State was supposed to be really good. So if
they end up with the same record, they're probably the

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team that's gonna get the benefit of the doubt simply
because of the number of five stars and the amount
of talent on their roster, as opposed to necessarily what
happened on the field. Because look, I mean that they
escape Nebraska and in a game where they had that
thing at home, coming off that orger, that was not
a particularly impressive performance by Ohised State. It's a nice
win because they usually could have lost the game. But

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there's just there, there are so many question marks. And
then of course you have Notre Dame sitting out there
and Notre Dame who absolutely destroyed Navy. And unfortunately, you know,
the quarterback gets hurt before the game for Navy, so
he's not full strength. It doesn't seem like but they
they had just a disastrous start and then that game
was never a game, and that's unfortunate. I wanted to

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see that thing be close and really be interesting, but
Notre Dame since the Northern Illinois game has just been
trucking teams.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
I'll tell you what, j mart you did mention Ohio State.
What I want to do is I want to come
back and talk about them, because listen, a win is
a win is a win. But you mentioned Nebraska getting
destroyed by Indiana last week. Ohio State, off of bye,
you think you're gonna get a good effort. They barely
survived against Nebraska and even with a win. I got

(52:45):
some questions about Ryan Day, heard Martin and VJ talking
about the same topic, and I want your opinion on it,
Ryan Day, Ohio State, is this just gonna be another
wasted year?

Speaker 3 (52:55):
With a ton of talent. We will get to that
next should mention.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
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Speaker 3 (53:25):
That's next, Fox sportsty Welcome back everybody.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
Fox Sports Radio Air Tours Jason Martin broadcasting live from
theti iraq dot com studios. Couple college football games still
going on. All the ranked teams are done for the night,
but Colorado Buffalo is playing the late game up twenty
four to fourteen on the Cincinnati Bearcats, both teams with

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only one loss in Big Twelve play. So you start
talking about Jamar we'd start talking about a minute ago,
about all of the crazy scenarios in the Big Ten
and the SEC and whatever. Two undefeated teams in the
Big Twelve in Iowa State and BYU and then a
log jam right behind them. But I'll tell you what,
you know, everybody wanted to give up on Dion Sanders

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and the Colorado Buffs. They win this game one, they
will be Bowl eligible at six and two, but they'll
be very much in the hunt for the Big Twelve
title game.

Speaker 4 (54:24):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
And all of a sudden, by the way, you look
at that schedule, a schedule that looked really kind of
impossible to start to hear uh, Utah, Kansas, and Oklahoma State.
All three of those teams were ranked to start the season.
Let's see Oklahoma State three and five, oh and five
of the Big twelve, Kansas two and six, one in
four in the Big twelve, Utah four and four, one

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in four in the Big twelve.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
Tell you what, j bartin there.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
You know they would need some help because there's two
undefeated teams in the league. But Colorado would have a
pathway to the Big Twelve championship if they keep winning out.

Speaker 4 (55:01):
I mean yeah, And I think the most amazing thing
about that is that they've just kind of been more
under the radar than you ever would have thought. Like
considering the way the season, the offseason went, and even
the beginning of the year. Yes, Dion's always going to
generate some interest, but for the most part, they're just
playing football and it's kind of come down to that,

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and they've done it fairly well, fairly to pretty well.
I mean, I think they're much more relevant towards the
end of October than a lot of people probably thought
coming into the year. And for the most part, again,
they're just doing it on the field. It's not really
creating much off the field, and I think that most
were expecting the tabloid as opposed to the scoreboard, and

(55:46):
you're actually, I think getting more of the opposite. And
that's to the program end of Dion's credit.

Speaker 3 (55:51):
Yeah, and it's kind of crazy too, you know.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
First of all, since that they lost to Nebraskan week two,
and that was kind of the game that you and
I both said, Hey, if they don't start actually win
games in a hurry, like, they're just gonna not be
a story.

Speaker 3 (56:03):
Uh there, so they would be.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
They would have been one to one at that point,
so they're they're four and one since then, Uh, obviously
have a chance to improve to five in one and
the only loss that you know, it was a Kansas
State game. That was where Travis Hunter got hurt early
Jimmy Horn, another top receiver, got hurt.

Speaker 6 (56:18):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
And even in that game, they led with like four
minutes to go before they gave up a late touchdown. So,
you know, I think that's the other interesting thing too,
j Mark is you said it. They're much quieter, but
it's quiet and they're winning, and I think we're trending
towards the situation where Sor Sanders might be the number

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one pick in the draft. He's pretty much the number
one QB on all these big boards right now, and
Travis Hunter is at the very least in the Heisman mix.
So I think that's kind of an interesting spin on it.
Is they're winning, their best players, who are some of
the biggest stars in college football, are playing well, and
it just it feels quieter than it has in the
pastor then it felt last year. And I don't you know,

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I have no strong opinion as to why, but it
is kind of interesting when you think about it.

Speaker 4 (57:06):
Yeah, well, I mean I think that one thing that
makes you more quiet is just they are playing pretty
good football, Like there's not a lot to talk about
negatively about the program. I think that they've they've succeeded
more than they've failed this year. They've had positive stories
if you want to cover them, and I think that
plays into it a lot. When you're winning, there's not

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a whole lot of the other stuff. There's not a
whole lot of the back talk and all that. If
you're two and five instead of five and two, all
of a sudden, every little thing leaks out. But when
you're five and two, a lot of things stay under wraps.
Even if there are things that aren't going well, we
just don't know about those things. You never know. A
clubhouse that is just has an overwhelmingly good record or

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succeeding could be a disaster area behind the scenes. But
somehow they're still winning, and so generally the questions that
are being asked of them are different, and so you
don't get the same results, you don't at the same
kind of information, And I think that's what it is like.
The fact that they've been winning contributes to the fact
that it's been quieter because there has not been the

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negativity or even the skepticism from the media that would
lead to those things.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
Hey, jmart I don't mean to switch gears back to
Texas A and M. There is a quote that just
came across my Twitter feed. So Texas A and M
beats LSU. This is This is via Carter Carrols, who
covers Texas A and M for Gigham twenty four to seven,
which is the twenty four to seven outlet. Texas A
and M coach Mike Elko after the game quote, jmart

(58:38):
this is a real program. It is not fake. It
is not a politician running this program, talking fast and
bsing everyone.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
Whoa that from.

Speaker 3 (58:48):
Mike elco Who is he talking about?

Speaker 1 (58:50):
J Martin?

Speaker 4 (58:51):
No, who he's talking about?

Speaker 3 (58:52):
Who could he have been talking about? Oh god, that's
on the boat with.

Speaker 4 (58:56):
The rod in his hand, the fisherman.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
Oh goodness, Well, I think the talking fast kind of
gives it away, because Jimo does talk about all the minute. Goodness, gracious,
what kind of That is an unbelievable quote.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
And I'll say this too.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
You know, Elko worked for Jimbo Fisher for a long
You know, we've talked about this before, but you know
Jimbo was at least pumping out like respectable, you know,
eight and four nine, and three seasons, not what he
was getting paid ten twelve million dollars a year, whatever
it was for. But he was at when Elko was
his defensive coordinator. He was pumping out nine win seasons.
The program fell off the face of the earth when

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Elko left to take the duke job. But goodness gracious,
throwing your former boss under the bus, that is that
is some quote, Jay Bart, That is some freaking quote.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
That's all I'll say.

Speaker 4 (59:45):
Well, I mean, you know who he's talking to, right,
I'm not saying we know who he's talking about, yes,
but he's he's psucking up the base.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (59:54):
So he right now is speaking to the A and
M alumni and the fans the and that I think
feel like they got that it was a fraud. They
feel like the entire thing that they bought into and
were promised was snake oil. And so basically he's saying, yeah,
we're for real guys, like, I know what you went through,

(01:00:14):
and I'm willing to say it because at this point
he doesn't really need to be beholden to his past
with Jimbo Fisher. He needs to be the raw ra
guy for Texas. A and M. In twenty twenty four,
and that's what he's doing. He is speaking to his
own fan base and saying, I know what you guys
went through, and I know your feelings on this. I
know when I took this job what the circumstances of

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this program were. And I understand how those of you
in the seats that have been buying tickets for years
and filling Kyle Field and all this other stuff. I
understand your mentality going into this year. So I'm going
to speak directly into that, and I'm going to tell
you the fraud that you think that you watched over
the last handful of years, that thing's gone. We're seven

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and one and it's legit, and that's it that's always doing.
That's a straight up cheerleading move by him to the
A and M faithful, and I'll bet it will be
received incredibly well.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
Texas A and M beats LSU. They are seven and one,
the only undefeated team in SEC play quote from Mike Yelko,
this is a real program. It is not fake. It
is not a politician running this program talking fast and
bsing everybody. Mike Elco off the top rope and we

(01:01:30):
liked him. We all everybody liked him because oh he's
he's quiet, and he's all about ball, and he doesn't
say much and we don't know much about it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
Well, apparently he's.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
Got a little you know, he's not afraid to you know,
his tongue hits just as hard as it has his
team does. But Texas A and M gets to win,
we'll come back, we'll talk a little bit more college football.
What a quote, What a night in Aggie Land, What
a night at Dodger Stadium. Here to get you caught
up on everything. Here's Steve Disaga with what's trending?

Speaker 7 (01:01:56):
A lot of baseball to get to guys. And while
we talk about college football, the Kansas lost tonight at
k State. My goodness, there was a point in the
first half where a freshman for Kansas fielded a kickoff
at the one and stepped out of bounds. The drive
had to start at the one. Next play running play
stuffed for a safety two points for k State. Eventually,

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Kansas State wins by two twenty nine twenty seven, including
a late field goal of fifty one yards. So Kansas
State has beaten rival Kansas sixteen years in a row.
Game two of the World Series in La went to
the Dodgers over the Yankees four to the final more
late inning thrills and tension. Dodgers did have back to

(01:02:42):
back homers with two outs in the third inning. The
Yankee offense had done nothing the first eight innings, including
against winning pitcher Yoshinobu Yamamoto. However, in the top of
the ninth, three singles in a hit batter for New York,
they scored a run, got within four to two, had
bases loaded, one out, then a strikeout against Blake, and
the save to Alex Vassia, who threw one pitch and

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got a fly out to center field to end it.
With bases full, two games to none. The Dodgers have
the lead, and the stat is still true that in
World Series history, a team leading by three during the
ninth inning is still undefeated. The Dodgers came this close
to blowing that late lead, but teams all time are
three sixty nine to oh win up by three runs

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or more during a World Series ninth inning. Freddie Freeman
apparently as in Atlanta. Brave had homered in his last
two World Series games there. In recent years, he is
homered in his first two World Series games as a Dodger,
so he joins Reggie Jackson as the only players to
homer in consecutive World Series games for multiple teams. In fact,
in the Dodgers very long history, Freeman is now the

(01:03:47):
first player to homer in each of the first two
games of a World Series. LA will be at Yankee
Stadium Monday night for Game three. All the games are
on Fox TV, all starting at eight pm Eastern time.
Sho Tani Tonight left with a shoulder injury. He was
hurt sliding into second base. It is called a partial dislocation. Initially,
he did have range of motion. The Dallas Cowboys elevated

(01:04:10):
running back Dalvin Cook from their practice squad. Bengals wide
receiver t Higgins as a game time decision with a
quad injury. In late night college football, there are three
games Colorado has started the third quarter at home the
Buffalo's leading Cincinnati twenty four to fourteen, Washington State leading
fourteen to twelve at San Diego State early in the
third quarter, and in the first quarter at Hawaii. In

(01:04:32):
the late game, the home team leads Nevada seven to nothing.
Number one Oregon all over Illinois thirty eight nine. Number
three Penn State was a winner tonight at Wisconsin twenty
eight to thirteen. Penn State quarterback Drew Aller left in
the first half with a knee injury. Next Saturday, it's
Ohio State's at Penn State. That's the big Neon Eastern
kickoff on Fox TV. Number four Ohio State twenty one

(01:04:53):
seventeen over Nebraska. Fifth rank Texas won at Vanderbilt's twenty
seven to twenty four. Sixth Miami beat Florida State thirty
six fourteen, and Texas A and M with the comeback
win against LSU thirty eight to twenty three. SMU won
in overtime at Duke twenty eight twenty seven. In late
night NBA action in LA, the Lakers lead with eight

(01:05:15):
minutes to go against Sacramento one o eight to ninety four.
Lebron James thirty two points, fourteen rebounds. Wow, he's kind
of like still not old yet in his career.

Speaker 4 (01:05:25):
The fourth quarter, He's got sixteen in the fourth Like,
I've been watching this game now for about five ten
minutes straight and he's just dominating the fourth quarter. He's
beating the Kings by himself.

Speaker 7 (01:05:35):
And if the Lakers win tonight, that would be a
three and oh record. Already wins for Boston and Cleveland
to go to three and oh on the young season.
And Luka Donsich has forty points for Dallas, but they're
losing in the final minute. Now one fourteen one oh
two Sons Kevin Durant with thirty one points. NHL Winnipeg
is eight and oh after winning at Calgary five three,
at Philadelphia and LA with daytime wins, Rangers edged Anaheim

(01:05:59):
two to one.

Speaker 3 (01:05:59):
Beck you, thank you very much, Steve Seger.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
This is Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday night into Sunday,
depending on.

Speaker 3 (01:06:07):
Where you are.

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
Er tors Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Tireck dot
Com Studios, Torres.

Speaker 4 (01:06:12):
Bronnie is about to get a ring. What Reno star
with the Lakers. They're going for a championship? Were you
and Bronnie James got his first NBA ring?

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
This is like, is this like the Clippers they hang
banners for playoff wins. It's like, now we get we
get we hand out rings to the Lakers because they
start three and oh.

Speaker 4 (01:06:29):
It's like, I mean, now that Brownie's in the league,
they're gonna try to give him every accolade. They can.

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
You know, it's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
So first of all, I was texting you so I so,
first of all, I know you're not on social media anymore.
I thought it was pretty much unanimous that we all
just assumed it was a you know, it was a joke.

Speaker 3 (01:06:46):
It was it was not a real thing.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
And I bring it up because I put out a
tweet that you know, maybe had a little bit of
a you know, it was like a Mike Elcho there
was a little sharp sharpness to it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:58):
Uh. It ended up getting too point two million views.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
Because no, because I was the only one that just
basically that night was like, this is a total sham.
Why are we pretending like it's anything other than that,
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:07:12):
It's the first game. Yeah, yeah, you know it's a sham.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
When immediately they're talking about how yeah, we gotta send him,
We're gonna send him down the G League here soon,
it's like, listen, I'll say this.

Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
I have no, it's not Bronnie's fault.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
That's one. He's just a pawn in his dad's game.
And I have no problem with his dad manipulating things
to his son's advantage. I mean, that's what parents do
all across the country, all across the globe, whatever. But
when a d student gets into Harvard, we don't pretend
like he is in a student and give him a

(01:07:51):
pat on the back for earning it legitimately. And so
like the fact that immediately the talk is, oh, yeah, no,
he's not going to be here very much longer.

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
He's now in the G League.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
It just it's like, stop trying to sell me that
it's some incredible historic moment.

Speaker 3 (01:08:07):
It wasn't. It was Lebron feeding his own ego.

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
I know you weren't watching live because I texted you
and you obviously listen, you have a family.

Speaker 3 (01:08:14):
Whatever. It was weird.

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
It did not feel special, and I don't know, I
I but yeah, it's gonna.

Speaker 4 (01:08:23):
Be splitting time we see between according to according to
various reports over the last like two days, he's gonna
be splitting time between the Lakers and the G League.
And it's just like so he had a stat line
of zero zero, zero, zero and zero, and he did
the postgame interview and it's just kind of it's it's

(01:08:43):
all just kind of it is. It's baffling, and I
can understand, like why you would say that. I'm what
I'm surprised by, not that you had all the the
uh interactions. You're the only one who said that felt
like every how were you the only one who said that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
I don't know if if everyone's afraid of clutch or
I don't know, I don't know. It's just it it
felt weird. It just it felt weird. It wasn't cool.

Speaker 3 (01:09:11):
I don't know. And you know, I had a lot
of people, Oh, you're not a parent, you don't understand.
Da da da.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
It's like, I'm sure it was really cool for lebron
it didn't feel special at all. Like they're like, we
know when there are special moments in sports, and I
can't think of any off the top of my head,
but we go back. I remember talking about this when
Bronni was drafted. Is what made Ken Griffy Junior and
senior feel cool. And I know I'm a little young

(01:09:38):
to have remembered that moment because I don't remember it happening.
It was cool because Ken Griffy Junior legitimately earned his
way into the Bigs. Ken Graffy Senior happened to be
on the same team. It happened organically. It wasn't Ken
Griffy Senior saying when Ken Griffy Junior was a freshman
in high school, you know, it would be cool, We're

(01:09:59):
gonna play together and five years No, it happened organically,
But yeah, it felt like nobody wanted to like ruin
whatever the moment was.

Speaker 3 (01:10:07):
But yeah, it felt like nobody else.

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
It felt like nobody on social media really felt like
it was anything other than you know, anything. I don't know,
nobody on social media really seemed that to really call
it out for exactly what it was.

Speaker 4 (01:10:20):
That's interesting. I mean, I would have thought that there
would have been a lot more than But your point
about Clutch is maybe legit to some degree. As sad
as that is, but I would say that it's cool
for Lebron's family, and ultimately it's not gonna have some
giant impact on the NBA season or anything. There's somebody
that probably lost the roster spot because of Bronni, But
I mean, again, it's it's not going to mean that

(01:10:42):
much as long as we don't continue to try and
like just kind of concede that this is normal, because
it isn't, Like no part of this is anything but AstroTurf.
If this feels incredibly fictitious and put on, and that's
unfortunate because you're right, it's not genuine. There's not It's
not like I'm trying to come up with an example

(01:11:02):
in my own head. But it's like JJ Watt and
TJ Wat are both Hall of famers, sure, right, so
when you see them play to play against each other
for the first time and you see them taking photos
and all this, like that's kind of earned. Of course,
that's that makes some degree of sense. But like Bronnie
who and you made this point, and because I didn't

(01:11:23):
see the game that night, I can't really react to it.
But you mentioned that Bronnie looked just like a child
among men as well, So I mean that's another thing.
Like I'm watching this Lakers team. It's just like you've
got Dalton connect who obviously deserves to be there. I
think it's gonna be a really good player in the NBA.

(01:11:44):
And then you got Bronnie James. And the week you
were out, the Warriors had come out and said they
were considering taking Bronnie at fifty two, but that the
Lakers ended up doing it or whatever like that, and
Arnie asked me about it that night, and I was like, Arnie,
let me tell you why the Warriors said that, because
they don't have to prove it because they'd never actually

(01:12:07):
had to do it. It's just a thing you say, like,
is it possible.

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
Yes, there is some universe.

Speaker 4 (01:12:13):
I don't know if it's the darkest timeline or not,
but there is some universe in which I guess they
could have taken Bronnie at fifty two. But them saying
it means nothing because they didn't actually do it. They
don't have to address it. They're just saying it, and
that could even just be doing a solid for lebron
at that point in time. Yeah, we'll throw him a
bone and say we would have taken Bronnie even though
everybody knew where he was going before that draft. Do

(01:12:36):
I really think the Warriors would have taken him. I don't.
I don't understand why they would. But you say it
because there's no penalty for saying it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:45):
I agree, and yeah it was, Yeah it was what
it was.

Speaker 2 (01:12:51):
But I'm with you is I hope he works his
way back up from the G League, and I hope
he earns it legitimately and I hope you know, a
moment in the playoffs this year or next year or
however long Lebron could keep going that there is a
moment of legitimacy. But that was I mean, listen, I
I it was.

Speaker 7 (01:13:12):
It was it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
It probably was very cool for Lebron. It did not
feel cool to me at all. It just felt like
somebody that was not it was not legitimate. And I'll
just I'll wrap by saying this. And we talked about
this when it happened, is like people were like, well,
you know, all these guys they that you know, Yiannis
got his brother drafted onto the Bucks and done, and
they only keep him around for Yannis And it's like, yeah,
and the guy is a punching bag. We make fun

(01:13:36):
of it, you know, Like you know, another example like
remember when Gordy Howe used to come out in his
like seventies and he played like one game in the
WHA or whatever it was, and it was like, yeah,
it was a stunt. Nobody took it seriously. We didn't
pretend like it was anything other than that. And to
see so many people have to pretend like, oh, this

(01:13:58):
is the most amazing thing ever, No, it's cool for
lebron it was weird, and like I said, we'll see
maybe in time Bronni earns that spot back up in
the pros and he has an opportunity to play with
his dad. But tell you what, we gotta switch gears.
We gotta get back to the Saga because so much
legitimate stuff happened in the world of sports today, not

(01:14:19):
fake stuff, not fake news like that Lebron Bronny nonsense.
We'll get to all of it with the Sager next.
Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio. Here
Tors Jaysmartin broadcasting live from thee tyreck dot Com studios.
As we do every week around this time, let's toss
it over the news desk. On these busy Saturdays, a

(01:14:40):
lot falls through the cracks. Our man de Saga has
us covered. To Saga, what do we need to catch
up on?

Speaker 7 (01:14:45):
Well, we'll get to a lot of the World Series
in a moment. But the college football game that went
overtime tonight SMU winning at Duke. This was a battle
of six and one teams. SMU had six turnovers, most
by the quarterback. Duke had no turnovers, and still Duke
loses at home. According to the folks at STATSIG, this
is in this century one of the very rare occasions

(01:15:05):
of being a minus six in turnover differential and still
winning the football game. Teams had been one and won
twenty four this century when it was that bad against
you in turnovers in the game. Apparently Marshall had beaten
Memphis in a game like this twenty eleven. And the
thing is SMU had a two touchdown lead late third quarter,
blew that and still won on the road. They scored

(01:15:27):
the touchdown first in overtime, kicked the extra point, Duke
scored a TD and went for two, and the pass failed,
and Duke loses at home twenty eight to twenty seven
in overtime. There are late night games, by the way,
at Colorado, it's thirty one to fourteen Buffalo's over Cincinnati
late third quarter. San Diego State has apparently just taken
the lead that might be under review, but eighteen fourteen

(01:15:51):
for the moment, leading Washington State mid third quarter, and
Hawaii's up fourteen nothing over Nevada early in the second. Meanwhile,
the Yankees, for the first time this season, were held
to one hit through the first eight innings and then
came alive in the ninth lot of tension in LA.
Dodgers hold on four too. They're up two games to
not in the World Series, but three singles and a

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hit batter top of the ninth for New York. They
scored a run, had bases loaded, one out, strikeout and
flyout ended the game. The Shoheo Tani update on the
shoulder injury a partial dislocation tests tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:16:23):
He did have range of motion.

Speaker 7 (01:16:26):
The Dodgers head to New York for Monday, Tuesday, and
perhaps Wednesday nights, all at eight pm Eastern on Fox TV.
The Monday night matchup at Yankee Stadium for Game three,
LA's Walker Bueler will start against New York pitcher Clark Schmid.
Under the current postseason format of two three to two
in a best of seven, the team that wins Game
one and Game two at home go on to take

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the series eighty percent of the time. For what it's worth,
but there have been comebacks from O two plenty of
them in World Series history. Ten teams have done that.
In fact, in best of seven World Series, and I
believe it's three different times in Yankee Dodger World Series
over the years. Comebacks from two to win the title.
As for sports TV ratings, this week, the NBA had

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its opening night doubleheader Tuesday on TNT that averaged about
three million viewers. Then the NFL got twelve and a
half million for Thursday night football on Amazon Rams and vikings.
Last night's baseball fifteen point two million viewers for the
Dodgers Yankees opener, most watched World Series opener since twenty seventeen,

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when at Dodger Stadium, LA and Clayton Kershaw dominated Houston.
We will have college football to discuss though tonight, certainly
including another loss for the Stanford.

Speaker 3 (01:17:40):
Cardinal at home.

Speaker 7 (01:17:41):
They have not won a home game against an FBS
opponent since they hired Troy Taylor as coach, the former
Cal quarterback. Perhaps he's a secret agent of Cal, but
in fact, overall it's twelve straight home losses against any
FBS opponent. They lost a close one at home to
Wake for It in an ACC game twenty seven to

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twenty four today, also in that conference, well, we got
to give the Cal score they dominated. What kind of
a season are they having? Cal is four and four
this year. They whipped to Oregon State forty four to seven.
North Carolina got its first conference win, dominating at Virginia.
Virginia Tech is three and one in conference after beating
Georgia Tech today. Memphis is seven and one after a

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home win against Charlotte. Tulane one again beating North Texas
to lane four to zero. In the American Conference, Connecticut
over rise seventeen.

Speaker 3 (01:18:30):
Sent one game go for Bowl eligibility Friday night.

Speaker 7 (01:18:34):
Baby did not realize yukont is five and one on
the home schedule so far this Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
Yeah, no, they can clitch Bowl eligibility on Friday sight.
Florida State will not more on that in a moment.
Tulsa won its game forty six forty five against Utsay.
Now Florida State is one in seven overall, yet again
held to twenty one points. Their last lost thirty six
fourteen at number six Miami. Now the Canes only led
this one fourteen to seven just before halftime.

Speaker 3 (01:19:00):
He is eight and zero.

Speaker 7 (01:19:01):
It does not have a single ranked team on its schedule.
Just for the record. Number five Texas won at Vanderbilt
today twenty seven to twenty four. Quinn yours three touchdown
passes in the first half. He had two interceptions in
the game as well. Texas with ten penalties but got
a road win. Number four Ohio State over Nebraska on
Fox TV twenty one seventeen. Nebraska late in the third quarter,

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was stopped on a fourth and goal at the two
no points, and they threw an interception late in the
fourth quarter. So Ohio State's offense. I believe that's Chip Kelly,
is it not? Yes, eleven drives eleven first downs against Nebraska,
and yet Ohio State gets the.

Speaker 3 (01:19:38):
W I hear and I see you save the Arizona
Wildcats score for tomorrow night.

Speaker 7 (01:19:42):
Okay, So that's another l for Arnie.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
Yes, poor poor guy. Yeah, that's what those Wildcats are
playing like right now. I feel bad for them. They
were top twenty five in the Sea. They made it
close at least not do it so good. Tell you what.
Thank you to Segre. We appreciate you. The three of
us will come back. We'll talk more Major League Baseball ANFL.
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Speaker 3 (01:20:50):
By the way, speaking of.

Speaker 2 (01:20:51):
Bernie Frado, Jason, we did not mention this, but Michigan
putting up twenty four points today.

Speaker 3 (01:20:57):
Yeah, it's like it's like.

Speaker 2 (01:20:59):
Two thousand twenty three all over again. They're unbelievable. I
actually think they were gonna lose.

Speaker 4 (01:21:05):
Yards happened and things. I mean, just the fact that
Michigan was playing on the Big ten network in prime
time town kind of year.

Speaker 2 (01:21:12):
It's been I know, well, it's funny. I was thinking
about this the last two Michigan Michigan State games, so
I guess really the last three three years ago Michigan
State beat Michigan and that was the Kenneth Walker game
where they were awesome and Dah da da da, And
that was before Michigan kind of went on their run
and we're still kind of figuring out, Okay, they're six

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and oh seven and oh whatever. But then then of
course they won the Big Ten whatever. So that was
three years ago. Two years ago was the Brawl in
the Tunnel, which was obviously a very you know, notorious game.
And then last year was the first game after like
the Connor Stallions situation. So it's like you talk about
three games that have had like significant national appeal, and

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then you have today on Big ten network. Nobody's watching.
By the way, Michigan they won twenty four to seventeen.
They got out gained by close to one hundred yards. Jason,
So yeah, I don't think the I don't think there
we're gonna be mistaking him for the uh the uh
you know, the eight New England Patriots or anything like
that anytime soon. One hundred and forty six yards passing
in that game, one hundred and nineteen yards were Actually

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they're so bad it's unbelievable that it was just a
year ago. They won the championship. We didn't get tak
Ohio State, but Ohio State survives.

Speaker 3 (01:22:25):
I'll say this.

Speaker 2 (01:22:26):
You know, I want to get to baseball really quick,
but you know Big Ten is going to be interesting.
Next week Penn State at Ohio State. We'll see if
Drew Aller, Penn State's quarterback, is healthy. You know, Penn
State's been a little bit of a whipping boy for tourism.

Speaker 3 (01:22:39):
Martin, I give him a little bit of credit.

Speaker 2 (01:22:41):
I mean, they were, yeah on the road to First
of all, they're they're the you know, they're seven and
zero right now going into Ohio State, and we know
that's a team that they've struggled with through the years,
but lost their starting quarterback, Drew Rallery. We're down, got
a defensive touchdown, and then put the game away late.
I actually do give them a little bit of credit
for finding a way to win in that game Saturday

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night in Wisconsin.

Speaker 4 (01:23:02):
Jason, Yeah, I agree with you. I mean I thought
that was the kind of a game that James Frankman
team often will go and lose. And there've been a
couple of those this year and they've been able to
win all of them. I still don't know, and we'll
figure this out before the end of the year, certainly,
and we'll figure to some degree we'll figure it out
next week. But Penn State, I still don't know how
good they actually are. But they are undefeated and this

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game on the road with a backup quarterback, the defense
getting the job done, and them just figuring away and
kind of pulling away there late in the second half,
that's an impressive win for them. Headlines this week weren't
great for the team, and so there was a lot
of calls for potential distraction. Then you have Aler go
down and one of your defensive stars go down as well,

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and he's unable to come back into the game. And
yet you still win that thing by a couple of
touchdowns on the road against a decent Luke Fickle coached
Wisconsin team. Yeah, that's a nice win for them.

Speaker 2 (01:24:00):
Yeah, really quickly. A couple other notes. In the Big Ten,
we talked a lot about the SEC with A and
M winning. Indiana, as everybody knows by now, has improved
to eight and Ozer ties for the school record win
streak to start the year.

Speaker 3 (01:24:13):
Credit where it's due.

Speaker 2 (01:24:14):
You know, Oregon gets to number one in the polls
this week after Texas loses, got a top twenty five
Illinois team coming into town. You think could there be
a letdown? Oregon next week travels to Michigan to play
the defending national champion, even if they're not very good
or you left no doubt on this one thirty eight
to nine the final score. I don't think there was
any doubt that they're in that upper upper, upper upper tier.

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With however many teams you deem it to be Georgia, Texas, Georgia, Texas,
Ohio State, maybe one or two others. I don't think
there's a ton to add there, j Mark. But Oregon,
a dominant winn A gets the top twenty five team
after ascending to number one in the polls this week.

Speaker 4 (01:24:52):
Yeah, well that's a nice one. And they did dominate
football game. And Dylan Gabriel now what is his second
all time on now in passing touchdowns in FBS And
Oklahoma fans continue to look at that and just say,
what what happened here? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:25:08):
Oklahoma, by the way, lost again, so they are now
I believe, four and four, one and four in the
big twe in the SEC. Uh, those SEC paychecks, you know,
they feel good until you start losing games. Then it's like,
you know, whatever, all right, really quickly, let's get back
to baseball. We got to get to some NFL here
in just a moment, because there's some very interesting storylines
heading into.

Speaker 3 (01:25:28):
Week eight of the NFL.

Speaker 4 (01:25:29):
Yeah, Ryan Day, who has escaped? You want to go
there because we we we can, let's do it. We
were gonna go there, and then we ended I may
have derailed us talking about Broni's and then we never
got there.

Speaker 2 (01:25:41):
Well, all I'll say about Ryan Day. You know, Ohio
State wins this game. The Sega kind of gave you
the stats, but Nebraska easily could have won that game.
You know we mentioned a minute ago James Franklin's a
little bit of a tour as and Martin whipping boy,
but as is Ryan Day, and you know we gave
him the benefit of doubt. You lose that Oregon by
one point in a game where there's a questionable pass

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interference call that took you out of field goal range.

Speaker 3 (01:26:04):
Whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:26:05):
But you're coming off of a bye, You're playing a
Nebraska team that just got destroyed by Indiana last week.
And I'll say this, j mart like to me, listen,
you went twenty one to seventeen, You survive, You beat
Penn State. Nobody remembers this. They play Penn State next week.
But the counter to that is like, just you know,
can we get can we get a little bit more?

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And I heard VJ and Martin talk about this, and
I give them credit because they really went after Ryan
Day like I know you and I have in the past.
Is like, you know, the reports are that from an
nil perspective, Ohio State paid upwards of twenty million dollars
for their roster to get guys out of the portal,
to keep some guys from going to the NFL. And
I think the thing that stands out to me is

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you're also paying your coordinators, probably like in the one
to two million dollar range. So it's like you literally
have the best team, the best staff that money can buy.
You barely survive Nebraska with probably the most talented roster
in the sport, and it's like, you know, listen, the
season's gonna play out. They're either gonna match expectations or not.

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They it does feel like basically national championship or bust.
And it's just like we can argue whatever, but like
the idea of like, well, I mean, anyone who criticizes
Ryan Day, you know, who are you gonna get that's better.

Speaker 3 (01:27:25):
It's like, well, if you give me two million to.

Speaker 2 (01:27:28):
Pay each coordinator and the highest paid rosster probably in
college football, I can literally find you hundreds of coaches
that can do the exact same thing that Ryan Day is,
which is beat just about everybody he's supposed to and
not beat the teams he's supposed to. I'll also say
that's a long winded way of saying you better beat
Penn State next week.

Speaker 4 (01:27:47):
Yeah, I mean that game right there, assuming Alur is healthy.
If he's not, then James Franklin's not gonna be kind
of under that microscope. But somebody next week is gonna
lose a game at their fan base is really going
to roll their eyes about yep, because both those coaches
are a bit in battled. Both of them have a
knock for letting it down on game day in the

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most critical spots, and this was not. This win over
Nebraska is one that you just don't come out of
that feeling particularly strong about that w like you won
the game, so you can't take that much away from it.
I understand Nebraska as a pretty solid defense, but at
the same time, I mean, you had to rely on

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Riyola throwing an interception prayer with like a minute eight
left and a four point game, and they had every
opportunity to win that football game. Did Nebraska nothing Ohio
State did jumped off the page. They we know the talent,
even without knowing the monetary value that you just laid out,
we understand how much talent is on that roster. But

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even with all that talent, what is it producing and
what it produced today was just kind of a lackluster, mediocre, sleepwalking,
barely won the game kind of situation. And you know,
I honestly looked at Ohio State in that game against
Nebraska the way I did Alabama against South Carolina where

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they escaped South Carolina at home the week after a
big time loss. Here you had Ohio State, even coming
off the buy lost to Oregon, a big time loss,
and they come back and they have a home game
against a team that got absolutely drilled last week in
South Carolina was coming off of loss the week before too,
and they barely wonted. Alabama should have lost that game.

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Ohio State I don't think should have lost this game
in terms of how it played out, but they almost
found a way to lose it in Ohio State, I
think has way more talent on the field right now
than does Alabama, but I do think there is now
a question mark as to whether or not this team
has what it takes to win a championship.

Speaker 3 (01:29:57):
Well, and I'll just throw this out at E. J.

Speaker 2 (01:29:59):
Mart If Ohio State loses next week to Penn State
and that's by no means a bad loss whatever. But
at the same time, and this does go a little
bit to the conversation we had earlier about inbound schedules,
but Ohio State would have two losses Penn State and Oregon,
assuming Oregon beats Michigan, would both be undefeated. You'd basically
be out of the Big Ten title picture at that point.

(01:30:21):
I mean you're talking about you'd have you'd not have
the tiebreaker against Penn State in Oregon, which means they
would each have to lose three games in league play
with a month to go. And so now you're getting
into that college football playoff as a wild card. You know,
I would assume at that point you'd advance, but it's
like you get in now you got to win because

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you're beating Michigan means nothing this year, and you're not.
If you lose that game, you're not playing for a
Big Ten championship. And so it's like, you know, again,
it feels like we're putting the cart way before the
horse here. And you know, you beat Penn State, and again,
you know, nope, we're not even having this conversation. But
the counter to that is you beat Penn State, you

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lose to Penn State, excuse me, you're basically out of
the playoff race, or you're out of the excuse me,
the Big Ten championship race. And then all of a sudden,
it you know, it's basically you got to get to
the playoff and you better win a bunch of games
there or this season does go down as a disappointment.

Speaker 3 (01:31:17):
And you know, I don't know how many more.

Speaker 2 (01:31:18):
Of those disappointing seasons people are gonna take before they
say that there's got to be somebody that's better, that's
more capable of doing this job.

Speaker 4 (01:31:25):
Yeah, again, it's crazy. Considering his record. We understand he's
a good football coach. I don't think that I agree
with you. I just think I think there are a
handful of guys at least, if not more than a handful,
they could come in with those same resources and put
out very similar things. Now that's not to say that
it's that easy. You can walk in with a coach

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you think is going to be really good with a
lot of resources and it just doesn't pan out. But
I don't think at this point it's fair to criticize
Ryan Day for being closer to being just kind of
just a guy, a replaceable guy, as opposed to some
irreplaceable giant of the sport. I just I feel like
there's enough. There've already been enough cracks in that armor.

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There have been enough dents in that armor that every
time he loses now it's just like, well, this is
what he does. Despite the fact that he wins at
this high clip, there's just nothing about Ohio State that
is impressive in the way that I think it should
be considering what they have.

Speaker 2 (01:32:26):
No, I agree, And it's the talent, it's the coordinators,
it's everything. By the way, keeping the updated on the
late game, Colorado is up thirty one to seventeen, about
eight minutes left in that game, really quickly, Jamart one
more college football result, and I'm just curious, does this
mean anything to you? We talked about Alabama coming off
a second loss, first time since seven They've had two

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losses before the end of October. They played in Missouri,
Missouri's quarterbacks basically playing on one leg. He's out by halftime.
Does a thirty four nothing win for Alabama mean anything
to you? Does that right some of the wrongs as
far as again lost us for a second time last week? Now,

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in their defense, it was a game they easily could
have won. They did not win it. But does that
does thirty four nothing do anything for you? Or is
the fact that Missouri was pretty banged up mean that
Alabama's got way more to show you?

Speaker 4 (01:33:21):
I mean, I think they've got more to show, but
I just at this point they just feel like another
one of those kind of pretty good football teams, but
nothing scary. There's nothing about them that stands out. The
Alabama kind of aura, the Nick Saban aura is nowhere
near this team. It just isn't. They don't play that great,
They don't play that disciplined, They don't seem to have

(01:33:43):
that much great chemistry. Offensively, they are Milroe and Ryan
Williams are busted way too often. They don't have a
running game like the Alabama of old. It's just different
this year is it's the beginning of something new, and
the war's going to have a lot to build from
after this year. And because they're not, I don't think

(01:34:03):
that the term elite applies in all to Alabama already.
I just think they are right now just sort of
in the mix with a bunch of other teams. But
nothing about them now has that same feeling that it
has since two thousand and eight.

Speaker 2 (01:34:17):
Yeah, and I'll add Alabama will have a by next week.
They returned to the field two weeks from now at
LSU and what essentially basically feels like a playoff elimination game.
Whoever loses that game would have a third loss. You'd
think they'd pretty much be out of the playoff picture
at this point. By the way, if you missed any
of our baseball coverage, all of our one, we talked

(01:34:38):
a lot of the Dodgers win in Game two to
get a two to nothing series lead. JP Morosi joined us.
So what you can do if you missed any of
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(01:35:00):
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right after we get off air. Well, come back, We'll
start looking ahead to Week eight in the NFL. Some
big questions, starting with that Sunday night game Dallas San Francisco.

Speaker 3 (01:35:22):
Who needs it more? We'll discuss that next Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (01:35:26):
Welcome back everybody. Fox Sports Radio air tours. Jason Martin
taking you up till two am Eastern Time. Bernie Fratto
of the Bernie Frado Show will follow us, keeping you
updated on the late scor In college football, Colorado is
up thirty one to seventeen on Cincinnati. Colorado with a

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win would get Bowl eligible and they would very much
be in the thick of the Big twelve title race
if they can hold on for a victory. You know,
it's a busy Saturday and we haven't even talked to
NFL yet. We normally preview games in this window, but
a little bit of a quieter slate This week doesn't

(01:36:12):
feel like there's as many super marquee games, and I
think there's just some interesting topics that emerged over the
course of the week. I want to actually start Sunday Night,
San Francisco hosting Dallas. Dallas last played in that abominable
effort against Detroit. San Francisco, of course, coming off the
loss to Kansas City in a game where Brock Purdy

(01:36:33):
through three interceptions, Brandon I got hurt is basically out
for the year. Who do you think needs to win
more on Sunday Night, Dallas or San Francisco.

Speaker 4 (01:36:43):
San Francisco because they could potentially still win a championship,
but Dallas because they look like they're falling apart.

Speaker 2 (01:36:50):
Let me jump in on that. You said, San Francisco,
you believe they can still win a championship. But even
with all the injuries, all everything that's happened so far
this season.

Speaker 4 (01:36:57):
Yeah, I still do. I mean, I still think there's talent.
There's still a lot of football left to be played.
You still haven't seen McCaffrey this season, for example. Yes,
they've dealt with a lot of injuries, but they're still
I don't know that there's anybody. I look at that
in the NFC and just think, for sure you can
trust everything about them. I really like Detroit right now,
as do most people. I picked Green Day before the year,

(01:37:19):
and I still have them there. But like I feel
like Dallas is out, I don't feel like San Francisco
is out. The NFC West is still kind of wide open.
There's a lot of things still to be decided. Rams
Now that they're a little bit closer to full strength,
you probably assume that they are going to keep Cooper
Cup now, especially after the way you played on Thursday,
so that makes that more interesting. But Dallas seems like

(01:37:40):
a franchise is falling apart of the seams, like the
walls are burning down around them. Everything you hear about
them is negative. This is why I had them under
five hundred in our preseason predictions, because everything you heard
about in the off season was the wrong kind of stuff.
They have dealt with injuries, but past that, you've got
Aikman coming after him. You've got McCarthy and Joe kind

(01:38:00):
of going back and forth in the media. Nothing about
this feels good. The only thing, and we talked about
it earlier about how maybe the best thing about the
Colorado situation has been that they've done this quietly. They've
just gone in one football game, so a lot of
the tabloid and the stupid stuff has been left in
the background. Then we can just concentrate on the football.
With Dallas, you can't really count and concentrate on the

(01:38:21):
football because football stinks, because it's not good, and so
that leads you to all the rest of this stuff,
which is why I think in the much bigger game,
for the sake of the Dallas franchise going forward, but
for this season and for what I think the ceilings
are for those two teams, I would say that San
Francisco is the one with something to play for here.

(01:38:44):
Dallas is just trying to hold it together.

Speaker 3 (01:38:46):
Well, so I agree with everything you said.

Speaker 2 (01:38:48):
The only thing I would disagree with is part of
the reason you can't focus on the football, Jerry Jones
doesn't allow you to do that.

Speaker 4 (01:38:54):
That's true.

Speaker 3 (01:38:55):
Yeah, And like you.

Speaker 2 (01:38:56):
Know, listen, I am far from a Mike McCarthy. I
am far from a Dak Prescott defender. But this kind
of felt like, you know, like like you're off a
by you're on a bye week, Like listen, you're the owner,
you're rich, you pay the bills, You're allowed to do
what you want to do. But it's like, did you
have to stir the pot this week?

Speaker 4 (01:39:17):
Jerry?

Speaker 6 (01:39:18):
Like?

Speaker 3 (01:39:18):
Did you have to?

Speaker 2 (01:39:19):
And I heard Rob Parker during our commercial break talking about,
you know, the comments about the play calling and listen,
if Troy Aikman or whomever is gonna use their platform
to call you out, that's a little bit different, and
that's Troy Aikman's job. But with Jerry, it's like, dude,
And by the way, I don't think he's necessarily even wrong.
I mean the play calling, I don't know's that's not
my area of expertise, but it's like it's just, you know,

(01:39:41):
it is a five alarm fire and it is an
organization just falling apart at the seams. I mean, I
just I don't really know what else there is to add,
but it just feels like it's getting bad one. It
feels like a coaching change is coming. But I think
more than that, I don't know what the the answers
are because it's all the same stuff that we have

(01:40:02):
talked about. Is when you're paying Dak Prescott this much money,
now you add on the CD LAMB contract. Now you
add on some of the other stuff that they have financially,
it's like, I don't there's no getting out of it.
So much money is owed to so few players that
you can't you know, you're tied to DAK, and like,
you know, it's funny, Like I feel like I know

(01:40:22):
enough Cowboys fans and I was back in Connecticut a
few weeks ago. My nephew's a huge Cowboys fan. I
was talking him about it and he's like, dude, it
just it feels hopeless. And that's just where this organization
is right now. Is I don't think Jerry helps the situation.
But I also don't think that there's really an answer.
By the way, I don't think Mike McCarthy, you know,
has been great and deserves whatever. But I also don't

(01:40:45):
think that any coach could come in and fix this
situation because you're tied to DAK, you're tied to CD,
there's not much wiggle room outside of it. And I
just think this is gonna kind of be who you
are over the next couple of years.

Speaker 4 (01:40:56):
Yeah, I think that's true. I do. I just I
can't believe that we're in such a spot where the
Cowboys seem to be. It's almost like they are hopelessly
caught in this cycle of I don't even know what
you would call it, but your point about Jerry Jones

(01:41:17):
is the exact right one. Like for somebody that says
he wants to win so much, he does so many
things that would actually correspond to the opposite, like whether
it's McCarthy and keeping him or keeping Jason Garrett too long,
or saying the wrong things in the media. Just the
stubborn nature of it in the wrong ways, and sometimes

(01:41:41):
the willing the like quick willingness to do other rash
things that also put you in a negative spot. Like
they're just I don't get anything about them. Like I
knew going in this was not going to be a
good year. I just I had a sense that it
wasn't gonna be a good year. And it really has
not been a good year. But I mean, they've had
almost no bright spots to look at. I mean, like

(01:42:03):
Dak hasn't played badly at all. But it doesn't matter.
They're just not a good football team. They're not a
coherent football team, they're not a consistent football team. They're
not an interesting football team. They look like a team
when you see them on the schedule. I mean, let's
just say this. You could argue they're the worst team
in the NFC East.

Speaker 3 (01:42:22):
Sure it's great, which is crazy, but think.

Speaker 4 (01:42:24):
About that for a second, folks, Like, I mean, Washington
in year one, with Jayden Daniels healthy, they are better
than the Cowboys. The Eagles, I still think are better
than the Cowboys, even though they're having their own struggles
and their coach might be out of it at the
end of this year. And then you got Brian Dable,
who may not survive in New York despite Mara coming
out and saying, oh, he's safe. But you got Daniel

(01:42:45):
Jones at quarterback, and you don't have Saquon Barkley anymore,
and you've got all these issues. Nimbers is, you do
have the bright spot of Eleague neighbors. But the fact
that the Giants, the Washington Commanders, and the Philadelphia Eagle
they're all in your division. I could make a serious
argument that you were the worst team of those four.
That's a horrible reality. But they're like, that's not hyperb

(01:43:09):
that's not hyperbole. That's absolutely true. They might be the
worst team in that division.

Speaker 3 (01:43:13):
No doubt.

Speaker 2 (01:43:13):
And I think the thing to me too about just
that conversation, like even if you look at the Giants,
Like thing about the Giants is like I feel like
they play hard and they they're they're limited, but I
feel like they play hard and they're well coached. But
what you said about the Cowboys is not wrong, by
the way. Keeping the update on the late score to Sega,
get you the details. But Colorado trying to ice the game,

(01:43:36):
Shore Sanders throws the ball deep to Travis Hunter. Travis
has been dealing with that shoulder issue.

Speaker 3 (01:43:43):
He came down.

Speaker 2 (01:43:44):
He nothing definitive, but he looked a little bit shaken up.
So we'll see if Colorado can seal the victory and
we'll see what happens with Travis Hunter.

Speaker 3 (01:43:53):
I do want to come back.

Speaker 2 (01:43:54):
I do want to talk about the other side of
that game, and I do have a question for you
j mart about the San Francisco forty nine or we will.

Speaker 3 (01:44:00):
Discuss all that next.

Speaker 2 (01:44:01):
But for the final time this evening, let's get you
to the news desk with the saga what's up to sagur?

Speaker 7 (01:44:05):
Well, while you're talking NFL missing for Dallas Sunday night
at San Francisco Micah Parsons and Deron Bland. On defense,
Dalvin Cook has been elevated from the Cowboys practice squad
for running back forty nine ers elevated kicker Anders Carlson again.
Panthers running back Jonathan Brooks, the rookie is still out
with the knee injury. Also out for Carolina tomorrow wide
receivers Deontae Johnson and Adam Thielen. Dolphins quarterback to a

(01:44:28):
Tongue of Iloa was activated officially. Washington QB Jayden Daniels,
with the rib injury, returned to limited practice Friday. He's
a game time decision for the matchup Sunday with the Bears.
Jets linebacker Hassan Reddick was activated. Giants punter Jamie Gillen
is out again with his bad hamstring Monday night Giants
at Pittsburgh Bengals. Wide receiver t Higgins is a game

(01:44:49):
time decision with a quad injury. Saints white out Chris
Olave cleared concussion protocol yesterday. Colts running back Jonathan Taylor
is off the injury report, but Seattle list wide receiver
dk Metcalf as doubtful. With the knee injury, and Jacksonville
running back travisse Etn's a game time decision with a
hamstring injury, and longtime Browns announcer Jim Donovan died at

(01:45:11):
the age of sixty eight. Game two of the World
Series was in LA tonight. The Dodgers beat the Yankees
four to two. Aaron Judge went oh for four to
three strikeouts. The losing pitcher, Carlos Rodan. He allowed three
homers in his three and a third innings. In the
regular season, he gave up thirty one homers in his
thirty two starts. Dodgers got back to back long balls
against him with two outs in the third, Tascar Hernandez

(01:45:33):
and Freddie Freeman, last night's hero, the save to Alex Vessia,
who threw one pitch got a flyout with bases loaded
to end the game in the top of the ninth.
Vessi had just return from injury, as did Miguel Rojas,
who started it shortstop, as did right handed reliever Bruce
dark graderol who played last night A pitch last night, However,
right hander Evan Phillips is out this series for LA

(01:45:55):
with an arm injury. Monday night is Game three of
the World Series at Yankee Stadium, LA up two games
to none. Yoshinobu Yamamoto the winning pitcher for the Dodgers tonight.
He went six and a third, one hit, allowed, a
solo homer by Juan Soto. Eighty six pitches thrown for Yamamoto,
his most since June before the shoulder injury. Shoheo Tani
left with a shoulder injury. He was hurt sliding into

(01:46:15):
second base. It's called a partial dislocation. Initially, you'll have
tests tomorrow. He did have range of motion. To the
college football and I came across this stat about the
Indiana Hoosiers who won again today. The folks at sports
Radar say, Indiana's the first team in at least twenty
years to never trail at any point in the first
eight games of a season. It is in college football.

(01:46:37):
It's incredible what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:46:38):
They had a stat where it was like going into
the game of teams that have started seven to zero,
like they've had the they had the largest point differential
in like the last fifty years or something, so like
you're comparing like twenty nineteen LSU two thy fourteen Ohio State,
and it's like twenty twenty. For Indiana, it's just insane.

Speaker 7 (01:46:57):
Hadn't started eight to oh since the nineteen sixties. The
only ranked team they have on their schedule is Ohio State.
In their next to last game for the moment, Indiana
ranked thirteenth after beating Washington. The final was thirty one seventeen. Today,
Ohio State, ranked fourth, won twenty one seventeen against Nebraska.
Will Howard three touchdown passes. The Buckeyes did trail at

(01:47:17):
home with under seven minutes left, and Ohio State is
a team thirty one carries just sixty four yards rushing.
Oregon beat up Illinois thirty eight to nine.

Speaker 3 (01:47:26):
At the half.

Speaker 7 (01:47:26):
It was thirty five to three on four total touchdowns
from quarterback Dylan Gabriel. Infect Oregon scored touchdowns on five
of its six drives in the first half. Number three
Penn State was up fourteen thirteen at Wisconsin with about
ten minutes to go twenty eight to thirteen the final.
Penn State quarterback Drew Aller left in the first half
with the knee injury. Next Saturday, Ohio State at Penn

(01:47:47):
State noon Eastern time on Fox TV. Number five. Texas
won at Vanderbilt twenty seven to twenty four, Miami and
BYU with wins Notre Dame and Alabama as well.

Speaker 3 (01:47:58):
Texas.

Speaker 7 (01:47:58):
A and M came back for a thirty eight twenty
three victory against LSU, which was ranked eighth, but as
a team, LSU twenty three carries twenty four yards tonight,
and the Tigers had four turnovers in the second half.
A and M's five and oh in the SEC wins
for Ole Miss and Kansas State, which edge Kansas twenty
nine twenty seven with a late field goal. SMU with

(01:48:19):
six turnovers, still won in overtime at Duke twenty eight
to twenty seven. There are three late games. Two minutes
left at Colorado, Buffalo's thirty one twenty three over Cincinnati
at San Diego State, about six minutes left Aztecs ahead
of a six to one Washington State team twenty six
twenty one halftime at Hawaii, the home team up seventeen
to nothing on Nevada.

Speaker 4 (01:48:40):
In the NBA.

Speaker 7 (01:48:41):
Among the ten games, Boston's three and oh after winning
at Detroit, Cleveland's three and oh after winning at Washington,
and the Lakers are three and oh after beating Sacramento
Lebron James at triple double thirty two points. NHL Winnipeg
eight and oh after a victory at Cadlegary, and Vegas
won seven to three over San Jose. The Sharks are
winless through nine games for the second straight year. That

(01:49:01):
is an NHL first, and this as we had to
World Series Game number three Monday Night on Fox TV.
Every playoff game for the Yankees this postseason has been
decided by three runs or less all eleven. That happened
to the nineteen eighty Phillies who only played eleven playoff games.
Yankees could be hosting Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday if they

(01:49:23):
can extend this series back to you.

Speaker 2 (01:49:25):
Thank you very much, Steve Disager to Saga, have a
great evening. To Saga will be back in tomorrow with
the guys, Mark Willard and Crewe and of course Arnie
Spanier and Chris playing. By the way, one quick note
from what I said before I threw to the Sager,
Travis Hunter we thought was a little bit banged up.

Speaker 3 (01:49:42):
No, he's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:49:43):
Was back in the next play, Colorado under two minutes
to go with the ball trying to seal a victory
over Cincinnati. Second and five. They're into right on the
edges of the red zone again, trying to seal a win.
Oh guy had a wide open running lane, just tripped
over his own feet. Well, K be updated if anything
interesting happens there.

Speaker 3 (01:50:03):
They're up eight.

Speaker 2 (01:50:04):
J mart I did quickly. I want to switch gears
to the other side of the San Francisco Dallas coin.
I just want to ask a simple question. You and
I through the the you know, probably the last year
or so have been Rock Party, you know, believers whatever
thought he thought he got a little bit of a
bad rap. But you know last week three interceptions, uh,

(01:50:29):
three weeks ago in the loss to Arizona, one touchdown,
two interceptions, and you know we are seeing him. No,
Christian McCaffrey, Brandon Ayuk out for the foreseeable future, Deebo
was out last week. He's expected back this week. But
we are seeing him in less than ideal circumstances, to
say the least. Has your opinion on Brock Party changed
at all?

Speaker 6 (01:50:49):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:50:50):
Based on the recent skid that the that that he's
on and the teams on Frankly, no.

Speaker 4 (01:50:55):
I mean not necessarily. Again, my opinion of him was
not that he was, you know, some Hall of Fame
greatest player we've ever seen. It was just that we
needed to stop judging him by the fact he was
drafted great last that we needed to see him as
somebody that had proven himself to be a starter in
the league, somebody that understood what Kyle Shanahan wanted him

(01:51:17):
to do in the offense, how he wanted him to
lead that offense. And he goes out and executes that
to the best visibility, doesn't get himself in trouble, doesn't
say anything, he gets himself in trouble, looks like his
scouts want to go to war for him on a
regular basis. Does he make some mistakes, Yes, but he's
the kind of player that you can win with. He's
not Patrick Mahomes, but he is certainly somebody that has

(01:51:41):
passed the This is this is not a novelty act
anymore like this is a legitimate guy who got his opportunity,
made most of it, and it's going to go down as,
you know, the greatest last draft pick in the history
of the NFL. And I think that's fair. You don't
always have to be Patrick Mahomes. I mean, you can
look at guys through the years. I mean, look at
Jared Goff. A lot of people didn't want Jared Goff

(01:52:03):
in Detroit, But you can win a super Bowl with
Jared Goff's your quarterback, I think with other things around him. Yes,
but that's going to be true of most quarterbacks. So, yes,
they're on a skid. But Party's been dealing with a
roster that's changed seemingly week after week. He hasn't had
McCaffery all year, He's had Debo banged up at times.
He's now without Ayu for the rest of the year.

(01:52:24):
They've had offensive line was which Williams being down, and
the contract issues and all these other things. I don't
think you can lay everything at the foot of Brock Party,
because if you don't want to give him credit when
they're winning, then you certainly can't give him the blame
when they take the skid. I think that it has
to be both. And I think that you can give
him some of the credit for what they've done. And

(01:52:44):
so yes, you can give him some of the blame.
He hasn't played his best football, But I think I
think it would be very shortsighted to put more than
more than meets the eye too to being on him, like,
I think he's still a pretty solid foot and that's
what I've always been like. Again, not a Hall of Famer,
but he's a good football player, and that's fair.

Speaker 2 (01:53:06):
It is fair. I like that that that phrase you
just used. If you're not going to give him any
of the credit when he had won, the team has success,
you can't give him all the blame when they're struggling.
I think that encapsulate things perfectly. By the way, the
late game in Boulder, Colorado, Colorado has just kicked a
field goal to go up thirty four to twenty three.
It is back to a two possession game, one thirty

(01:53:27):
nine left, so Colorado basically unofficially clinches their six win
of the season. They will be Bowl eligible to question
now with one loss in Big Twelve play. If they
keep winning, can they get into that Big twelve title
picture BYU and Iowa State atop the standings in that league.

Speaker 3 (01:53:44):
Tell you what, Jay mart, We'll come back.

Speaker 2 (01:53:45):
We will wrap the show one segment left, maybe look
ahead to Monday night, maybe a little bit of Sunday
football as well, but Monday, of course the big game.
Three in the Bronx.

Speaker 3 (01:53:55):
It's all next. Fox Sports th are you welcome back?
Hell everybody?

Speaker 2 (01:54:01):
Fox Sports radio er Torris Jason Martin broadcasting live from
the tyreck dot Com studios. We do have a final
in Buffalo or in Buffalo.

Speaker 4 (01:54:10):
In Boulder, Buffalo Country.

Speaker 2 (01:54:13):
Buffalo Country. Baby Colorado does get the victory. They improved
to six and two. Say this really quick. I don't
think people realize Colorado was one and eleven two years ago.
I just looked it up. If my math is correct,
and it has at times not always been. Ten of
the eleven losses were by twenty one or more points.

(01:54:33):
That's how bad that team was. They are now six
and two, they are Bowl eligible, and they're very much
in the Big twelve title race.

Speaker 3 (01:54:41):
Colorado gets to win.

Speaker 2 (01:54:43):
Jmart do want your thoughts on Game three of the
World Series. But before I do, we do have the
sound of Mike Elko absolutely just oh murdering. Hear this
all right, Mary, play the sound, but let me let
me set it up really quick. Mike Elko Texas A
and M head coach Texas A A and M wins
against LSU. They are now in sole possession of first

(01:55:05):
place in the SEC, which is crazy to say. Mike
Elko after the game, talking about the state of his program.

Speaker 8 (01:55:12):
We're very honest, we're very open, and this is a
real program. It's not fake. It's not a politician running
this program talking fast and bs and everybody. This is
a real program and for all the recruits out there,
this is a real place and if you want to
be really good at football, this is a really good
place to be.

Speaker 2 (01:55:31):
That was Mike Elko after the game, just literally throwing
dirt on the grave of Jimbo Fisher. And the thing
that I love about that sound Jmart is that there's
times where you see a quote and you actually hear
the audio and you're like, oh, well, that quote doesn't
actually sound at all like the way that we thought
it would. That is Mike Elko very much basically like

(01:55:56):
I said, murdering Jimbo Fisher in broad day and letting
every recruit know, hey, we're about football here. Now we
add about all the other stuff. There is no mistaking
who he was talking about or what he was talking
about with that quote.

Speaker 4 (01:56:11):
Yeah, and it also sounds like he has heard from
either parents or possible players that you know that's been
a question mark, like are you guys for real now,
because we've heard a lot of crap and none of
it has come true. Or you've had a lot of
promises that haven't been fulfilled, or you've had a lot
of quick talking, fast talk and smooth talking that hasn't

(01:56:33):
amounted to much. It's almost like Elko may have heard
that on the recruiting trail, or he's gotten win that
that's been said a lot on the recruiting trail, and
he's trying to win the next He's trying to win
the future of Texas A and M. While also speaking
to the alumni and saying, hey, continue to fund us.
All of what you were worried about in the past

(01:56:54):
no longer exists. Get on board. We've lost one game,
and by the way, we've played eight this year.

Speaker 2 (01:57:01):
Texas A and M. They are seven to one. They
are very much not only in the SEC title picture,
they are in the driver's seat to potentially play in
the SEC championship game. They are again the only undefeated
team in league play in the scc JMAR Really quickly,
let's switch gears to Monday night, Game three in the

(01:57:25):
Bronx Dodgers up two to oh, what do you expect
to see when these two teams get back together in
the Bronx on Monday night.

Speaker 4 (01:57:33):
I mean, I think it'll be electric. I think it'll
be great. It'll be must see stuff, just like I mean,
the first game of the World Series was a complete classic.
Less so in Game two, but still like it's just
every pitch just feels so tension filled and you you
could see history at any minute. I think that the
Yankees will win Game three. I think the Judge is

(01:57:54):
actually going to show up. He's gonna have his home
crowd in front of him, every reason to succeed, as
if it's been for him in the postseason. I just
can't imagine that he's going to go through this series
and it's gonna be that much of a disaster for him.
I think he's gonna have at least one bright moment,
and it almost really needs to come in Game three.
But I think their bats will wake up. I think
Stanton will wake up. I just feel like they probably

(01:58:17):
might get on top of the Dodgers early and be
able to hold them off. But obviously if it goes
if it goes to three to oh, it's over. And
I think the bigger question now is just is Otani?

Speaker 6 (01:58:27):
Al right?

Speaker 4 (01:58:28):
What's he gonna be able to do on Monday? Is
this gonna hamper him at all? It's his left shoulder.
Are they gonna be able to pop it back in
it's gonna be okay? Or is it a little bit
more severe than that. I'm sure we'll find that out tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:58:40):
I was just gonna say, I know you're not a doctor.

Speaker 2 (01:58:42):
Surprise, surprise, you have any thoughts on I can't assume
Otani plays on Monday night?

Speaker 3 (01:58:47):
Right, it's got I mean, yeah, it.

Speaker 4 (01:58:50):
Just I guess it depends on the risk factor. If
it's something that he could hurt worse, or if he
just flat out can't get the get the bat around
fast enough to know. I don't think that he will go.
I wouldn't rule out him playing, though, because I just again,
I don't know how serious it was. I think that
they may have dodged a serious bullet here. I think
it could have potentially been much much worse than it was.

(01:59:12):
I would probably lean towards him not playing in three,
but I definitely wouldn't be the least bit surprised, especially
if the Yankees were to win. If he's out there
in Game four.

Speaker 2 (01:59:20):
Yeah, I'm just glad it is the non throwing shoulder,
so hopefully it doesn't impact his pitching career.

Speaker 3 (01:59:25):
We got to get out of here. Jmart Fast three hours.

Speaker 2 (01:59:28):
I want to thank the crew, Mary on the board,
Ian producing Steve de Saga from a partner Jason Martin.
I'm mere Torres. Also thank you to John Paul Morosi
joining us. If you missed any of today's show, make
sure to go ahead and download the podcast. Lot to
get to lot covered ground, A lot of ground covered.
Excuse me tell you what though, we got to throw
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