Alex Curry & Carmen Vitali talk Dodgers World Series win, the New York Jets, and more!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Welcome to Fox Football Saturday. I'm Alex Curry here with
Carmen Vitally. Thank you for spending your Saturday afternoon with
Carme and me. We got to start out by saying
congrats to the champs. The Dodgers are World Series champions
and LA has been celebrating since Wednesday. You guys, they
are over two hundred and twenty five thousand fans downtown
LA yesterday for the parade. They didn't get one in

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twenty twenty, so this was like double for one. Fans
have been going literally crazy. Did you hear all the
fireworks Wednesday night?

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Gone?

Speaker 4 (00:36):
I know, like I was. I was surprised because I
saw our friend Joy Taylor. She lives in a high
rise and so she was post she posted a video
of like you could see it?

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Oh we could hear it? I didn't hear any we
could hear all. I didn't hear any of this, So
that is crazy. Also, like all the haters can kind
of take a seat now and enjoy the show, because
the Dodgers might be the next dynasty in baseball. We're
gonna break down in just a moment. We've had some
epic college football matchups today.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
You just heard it.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Ohio State went to Penn State this morning and beat.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Them disappointed thirteen. That was so silly.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
No, No, that should have been like the.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
Whiteouts are not whiteouts call in in Happy Valley are
just not like the same if they're not at night.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
No, I have to say the one of again, one
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Speaker 1 (01:28):
Eight on Big ten Network.

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Speaker 1 (02:17):
All right, guys, we've got a great show for you today.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
We're gonna have Nicki Kaye joining us in thirty who
covered the whole World Series. Then Rachel Hotmeyer, sports acre
and reporter for CBS to Troy an hour two to
preview the game of the week, Hyends at Packers. That's
gonna be a good one. We got producer Bo with
us today, Technical producer Christopher Fett, Martin Weiss at the
news desk who'll keep you updated on all the college
football action as it goes down. But as I said,

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we're gonna start with the champs, you guys, because the
Dodgers are World Series champs. And I don't want to
say I told you so, but like I do, I
called this back in March.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Yes, let's go. I said the Dodgers.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Over the Yankees in the World Series in March, in May,
in June, once the postseason started in October, and just
you know what, congratulations La, Because there was a lot
of like smack for the twenty twenty World Series win,

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like wasn't a full one, wasn't a real one.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Everyone was playing. Everybody had to compete, like.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
I'm with like I heard I heard Jonah say before
I'm with him. I did not understand. Oh yeah, like
that's silly.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
It wasn't LA fans. It was LA being like, yeah
we won. The like wasn't a real one because it
wasn't like a full season.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
I mean, as someone who was the beneficiary of a
championship in COVID, yeah, I mean that was a very
real thing.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
In August, Rapers and Dodgers both twenty twenty and both
got I.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
Was on the Buccaneers team. I mean not on the
actual team, but I worked for that. Yeah, got a ring.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
It counts. Honestly it was.

Speaker 4 (03:53):
There was the amount of like adversity that teams had
to fight through.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
The I think it was even harder.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
I do too.

Speaker 4 (03:59):
I mean, I get that the baseball season was shortened,
so there's like there's no fans regardless offane, like not
even the no fans thing, but like if you were
part of a team and in those facilities during that time,
I had I had to wear a tracker. We couldn't
go within six feet of each other. We had to
be like like guys had meeting rooms outside and like

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you had. There were so many different things about travel
and oh no, like the hoops that the teams had
to jump through, like that was really absolutely harder.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah, the no fan things was also like the near
releas thing ever. Sitting there it looks like you're watching practice.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
There was a weird being in.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
Those stadiums because I did get to go to some
of those stadiums then where it was just empty and
you were just like, this is it's crazy, but this.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Is this is real. Congrats to the champs. Two World
Series wins in five years, and LA's.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Been raging this week.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
I just got to tell you the La parade was
wild downtown LA yesterday estimated two hundred and twenty five
thousand fans.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
It was a sea of.

Speaker 4 (04:58):
Blue trying to hate here, but guys, show up a
little bit more for your team. Two hundred and twenty
five thousand fans is nothing. What Cubs had five million
in twenty sixteen.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
All Right, we had climat we're borrying, We're bringing the sass.
Oh everyone's giving me eyebrows, right, now like.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
Two hundred and twenty five thousand not register for me.
I'm sorry, guys, show up for your team more.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
I don't know if you can fit that in the
streets of downtown LA. They were on top of like.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
Can you because you can fit five million in the
streets of downtown Chicago, which is objectively smaller.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Someone came with fighting feelings.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
I can listen.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
I worked for the Daughters. I'm very happy there are
people that I still know over there. Congratulations, I'm saying
to LA fans show up.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
They did, I mean they show up more.

Speaker 5 (05:46):
I was at the Cleveland Cavaliers Parade. Now, granted, I
think the thing is between that and the Cubs. You're
talking once in a lifetime.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
I was like, I can go back on that time.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
I was at all of the black parades too, and
every single one had at least a million people at it.

Speaker 6 (06:04):
I think.

Speaker 5 (06:04):
But again, I don't know where there is Like we're
talking old like New York Chicago. You've got centralized areas
for a lot of stuff where people can congregate. Yeah,
this seemed to cross a lot.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
There was in two different spots.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
No, it's not. But we're going to talk about though.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Once they got to Dodger Stadium, because there was a
moment like I think that like tugged at the heartstrings
a bit, and it was Tao Oscar Hernandez, like his
moment on stage where he stood there holding the mic
kind of taking it all in as a crowd as
like chanting signed Teo. He took a risk and a
chance on himself to sign a one year deal with

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the Dodgers because he felt like it was the best place,
best place to win a championship.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Obviously same reason Otani came here.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
But at the beginning of the season, I was saying
that this is the most underrated signing that no one's
talking about. Like he brought love it so much, heart
so much. I mean he also was a home run
Homann Derby winner, the first Dodger to ever win it.
He was the one who really kind of opened up
Otawny personality wise, social media wise.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
Like he's got to stay.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Dodgers need to keep keep Tao's personality, just everything. But
let's go just a moment because we haven't gotten to
talk about it yet.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
The way that the Dodgers won the World.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Series, it was absolutely incredible, overcoming a five run deficit
against one of the best pitchers in the league, Garrett
Cole's reigning Cy Young winner, and taking the full advantage
of the Meltown.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
Defensive errors were just I means incredible by the New
York Yankee.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
That was an insane meltdown, Like it.

Speaker 4 (07:40):
Also came after you felt like the Yankees had finally
found their stride in this series.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Yet oh sleeping Judge woke up. We might be going
to six or seven.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
Now. This was the most productive we had seen the
Yankees be all series, which was insane given the hitting
power that they had all during the regular season, all
in the postseason leading up to this point, and then
all of a sudden, their back were completely quiet until
the last couple of games, and then you saw them
get out to that five A league.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
I literally looked down from my phone.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
I had to go do something real fast, and I
came back and it was tied, and I was like, oh, no,
just it was.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
It was a complete meltdown that started with Aaron Judge
missing a routine flyout catch and center field like it
was just so weird that Anthony Volpi bouncing the throw
to third base and miscommunication at first when no one
covering it. That would have been the third out and
no runs scored. So you have these like three errors
that ended up leading to five and runs. Now, the
Yankees may have had the meltdown, but the Dodgers took

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advantage of that opportunity.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
And that takes a lot of effort.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
And that's a real testament to how their season has gone,
because they have found ways to keep winning even when
they were down with injuries. They used forty different pitchers
during the regular season. Only two of the forty pitched
more than one hundred innings, and neither of them were
on the postseason roster, Tyler Glassnow and Gavin Stone. Like

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even their World Series MVP Freddy Freeman was playing one
good leg and Freddy alone beat the Yankees. He made
so much history, the first ever walk off Grand Slam
in Game one, six straight World Series games with a
home run, most ever, twelve RBIs tied for the record
for most in a World Series that was set in
nineteen sixty by Yankees Bobby Richardson.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
Like, if it hadn't been for Freddy Freeman, I like
this bullpen would have been way more of a story.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
This Dodgers' bullpen would have been way more of a story.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
That's what it was. You know, it was Freddie Freeman
and the Dodgers' bullpen.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
Can you give an MVP to a bull.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
They were the unsung hero and they talked about that
like yesterday at the speeches at the parade as well.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
But like just for Freddy.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
To have it be Freddy after everything he went through
this season, the illness of his son, the injuries he
battled through, and to be the hero with his son
there cheering for him in the crowd and on the.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Field with him was just such like a joyful, tearful
ending that we all needed.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Like it was just it was so beautiful and I'm
so happy for the Dodgers for la Like oh Tani
first season, go into the World Series. I said that
to Everyone told me I was crazy. I was like, no,
he's like, they're gonna win. You got a Tani.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
Now there's that like effect.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
We talked about it last week, like the show, Hey
Tani effect, similar to like the Tom Brady effect when
you have the greatest and the whole time come in
like everybody levels up to.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
Their like the Tom Brady example too. I mean Tom
was not the reason they won that Super Bowl. No,
and so it wasn't the reason that series, which is
kind of ironic.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
But they will you to get there. No huge reason
that you get they.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
Put in during this season. You can't know, you can't
like even you can't any value.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Am like the work like the work ethic like just
like the want and need to be the best. So
this is the next question. Then are the Dodgers the
next dynasty? And I think they very easily can be.
They currently have won two World Series and five years.
They need to win another one and it.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
Needs to be with it needs next year, It needs
to be in the next couple of years. Yeah, I
would say next two years.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
Dynasty for me does not start until you win.

Speaker 7 (11:10):
Back to back.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Okay, so mine is you have to have three titles
to be considered a dynasty.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
You're a back to back. I am like.

Speaker 4 (11:19):
Started at a back to back and then from there
it has to be like three in five years or
three in four years, like to me, like three in
six years.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
If they get it, like I that twenty twenty, you
still have a lot of the guys on that team,
like it is the beginning.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
If you have three titles, in like.

Speaker 8 (11:36):
I mean.

Speaker 4 (11:38):
In six years, and I mean it was close to
a dynasty, but I don't even know that I would
go so far as to say.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
That that it was okay, So I'm big on this
is interesting.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
This is always a really hot like debate topic, like
a dynasty for me, three championship, so like Chiefs were
not considered a dynasty until they won that third with mahoone,
that that is the dynasty.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Once you have that third, your dynasty is. You need
back to back.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
I need, I need it to start.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
But just two two is the only one that No,
it has to you have to have more after that. Yeah,
I don't start the dynasty conversation until a team goes
back to back because like if you think about the
dynasties of the past, right, you think about the Patriots,
you think about.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
The Giant Pittsburgh Steelers.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
You think about the last the Dallas Cowboys in the
Miami Dolphins back in yeah, the Kobe, right, the Kobe
shack Lakers, like they all had a back to back
championship in those I don't think.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
I don't think an easy back to back, but it
does need to.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Be three in a short amount of time. I think
to be considered a dynasty.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
But I think the.

Speaker 4 (12:42):
Bigger narrative here is that they've overcome the postseason choke
artist label that they had. Oh yeah, Like, I think
that's where we start this conversation. I don't think you
need to jump necessarily to dynasty, but you say, oh,
they're not choke artists.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
But I think, but I think it's important because baseball
needs this.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Baseball hasn't had Like.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
The Astros were the last like great team that was
like almost a dynasty, but they had the cheating scandal
in there. Nobody liked them, no one wanted to cheer
for them, no one really wanted to tune in unless
you were an Astros fan.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
This is good, really good for baseball.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
I mean even just the twenty twenty four like the
viewership the World Series against the NBA Finals. World Series
had fifteen point eight million viewers. NBA Finals eleven point
three million viewers. Like, baseball is having a resurgence and
a moment, and it helps when you have a big
brand that is turning into with the potential to be

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a dynasty. And they're only going to get better next year.
Otani's going to be back on the mound pitching. Their
pitching staff is going to be back healthy. They're rumored
to possibly be in the Won Soda sweepstakes, which is
the biggest free.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
Age honest, Like, he was such a hero for the Yankees.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Which is insane. It's the Yankees don't re sign him,
Like there's no way. I don't think they're getting back
to the World Series anyway, and they didn't pick up
the player option for tho. Like I just the Yankees
are not the Yank Yankees of the old the Dodgers
or how the Yankees.

Speaker 4 (14:06):
It's so interesting to me too, because I feel like
if any sport lends itself to having dynasties in this
day and age, it.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
Has to be because.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
You can spend as much as you possibly want to.

Speaker 4 (14:19):
Like, yeah, no other of like the major sports have
the flexible cap that.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
Like like Zach MLB does.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
It's insane.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
So like how there isn't already dynasties is kind of
interesting to me because I'm like, you can spend as
long as your ownership is on board. You can spend
as much as you want, as long as you're willing
to pay that tax.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
The hardest part is not like really Baseball is an
individual sport played in a team atmosphere, so opposed to
different sports where if, like if you have a great
team chemistry together, like you guys can come together, will
I think it makes it almost easier because what it's
so dependent on like a single pitcher or like a
player getting hot at the plate, Like it's just yeah.

Speaker 4 (14:59):
But like if you only I really have to deal
with like one person getting hot and staying hot? How
is that not the case with like we're gonna see
with like someone like show Hey Otani's a perfect example
of someone who could be a dynasty maker, Whereas like
in football, you have eleven guys, it's a team sport.
There's really not I mean, you can argue that a
quarterback obviously is the most important position on the field,

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but it's not as if a good quarterback is the
end all be all. You still need a good defense,
you still need receivers for him to throw to, and
to keep that core together under a hard cap is
so much harder to me than getting one good poking to.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
What Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reider doing, like literally is
the the two of them are together. He didn't even
have top tier receivers and he won a super.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
Think about what that defense?

Speaker 4 (15:44):
No, no, no, there's there's the defensive element here that people
do not talk about enough in Steve Spagnolo and staying
in Kansas City and having the talent on that side
of the ball. The only reasons the Kansas City Chiefs
were able to do that last year and win the
Super Bowl was yes, Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes. It
was Chris Jones and Steve Spagnolo two on the other
side of the ball keeping the Chiefs in games so

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they didn't have to go off offensively necessarily to win,
Like that is the ultimate again team sport.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
And then they're operating under a hard cap like where baseball.

Speaker 4 (16:15):
One player can make that difference and there is no
limit at how much you can spend on that player.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Yeah, which is crazy because I saw a lot of
haters complaining, like, yeah, it's two bigguse two of the
biggest payrolls in the World Series. I hate to break
it to you, like last year was too the Texas
Rangers team. You're playing a game and getting paid millions
of dollars. So a team that.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Invests in the best should get the best results. Don't
be mad at the team that's willing to pay.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
Be mad at your team and your owner that's not
willing to pay, and go out there and get your
team to a World Series because that's what it takes.
Invest in your team and you're gonna get a good product.
Kind of like anything in life, if you if you
invest in whatever you're doing, you should be getting a
better product. But it's just ah, that was great. That
was like Chef's kiss love it. Congratulations Dodger fans. That

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was beautiful. Uh yeah, who We're gonna take a quick
break here, but when we come back, are the Jets
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Speaker 2 (17:26):
Welcome back to Fox Football Saturday. I'm Alex Curry here
with Carmen Vitally and we are broadcasting live from the
Tart dot com studios in Los Angeles. Thank you for
spending your Saturday afternoon with carme and me and we're
just having like LA inspired songs coming back here today.
That was my request was my request.

Speaker 4 (17:44):
Yeah, all right, congratulations, Like I'm not hating Alex.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
It's fine, it's fine, I'll I.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
I just want Dodger fans to show up for their team.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
That's all we did. But we also understand LA traffic.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
You saw Dodgers even get stuck in the traffic, yes,
which was hilarious.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
But now we're going to talk about a.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
New York team, Okay, because the Jets had an insane
Thursday night football come back when it was a tale
of two halves. We saw the catch of the Seasonday night. Yeah,
we saw the catch of the season from Garrett Wilson.
But like, are these Jets for real?

Speaker 1 (18:21):
Right that?

Speaker 2 (18:21):
That's the real question here because when you look at Rogers'
stats first and second like half are just absolutely insane.
Passing yards, he had thirty two in the first half
one hundred and seventy nine and the second half. Zero
passing touchdowns in the first half three in the second half.
Passer rating was fifty six point three in the first
half one hundred and forty seven point seven in the

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second half. The offense was finally clicking in that second half,
just like in the game. We saw that obviously as
I mentioned the catch of the season Garrett Wilson looking
like the Jordan logo, like full extension into thousand.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
That the catch was sick.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
I love I really really love him, and I just
I wish that he had a quarterback that would help.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
Him more and develop him more and.

Speaker 4 (19:05):
Being a little bit more flexible with who he is
as a player and playing to that yeah, because I
just that's not Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Nobody did say he told him, like, just throw it
up there, I can get it, Like, just just put
it up like I can't catch it, which we saw.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
But it's taken like up until the last few couple
of weeks for Aaron to even trust Garrett Wilson. And
I'm like that he is such a wonderful, budding young talent.
I can't say enough about Garrett Wilson just as a.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
You have been like pumping them up because he's a great.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
Player and he's such a good talent, and he has
the potential to be a Pro Bowl receiver, an All
Pro receiver, and I just want him to have the
best possible environment to thrive. And it's hard when your
quarterback already is so set in his way, is set
with his guys, keeps bringing his guys.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
It's kind of like, when you think about it, like
I don't want to older people that are so stuck
in their way.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
They're like, no, don't show me the new technology. No,
don't do me.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Then he's like, no, this is this is what I know,
this is what I do well, So this is what
we're sticking with. We also saw like DeVante Adams first
touchdown with the Jets and a rookie move Corley dropping
the ball before he was in the end zone.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Can I just why do players do this?

Speaker 2 (20:15):
It happens went off and hold onto the ball, pulled
onto the ball.

Speaker 8 (20:18):
Now.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
Rogers talked after the game about how important this win
was for them mentally, saying, going, yeah, two and seven
would have been mentally difficult. But do you think this
could be the spark that turns their season around?

Speaker 3 (20:31):
Oh, Alex, this is just they have.

Speaker 4 (20:34):
Their current chance of reaching the postseason is sixteen percent.
Their chance of making the Super Bowl, which again was
the expectation that they had of themselves, yeah, is less
than one percent. The chance of them winning the Super
Bowl is even less than that. Yeah, Like what are
we talking about here? Last week against the Patriots was

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the final like nailing the.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
Coffee for again.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
If it happens for the New York Jets, it.

Speaker 4 (21:03):
Will be so incredibly unprecedented, it will be so incredibly
out of the ordinary. Like I will be happy for
Jets fans. Don't get me wrong, Like I don't want
them to keep suffering. I really don't.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
And I feel very.

Speaker 4 (21:15):
Badly that this experiment is not going at all how
they wanted. And then to say, like Aaron Rodgers being like, oh, yeah, well,
we're gonna have to run the table from here on
out in.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
Week eight nine, halfway point of the season.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
You're gonna have to run the table half your point
of the season.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Like what are we talking? Like we already know the
Bills are gonna run away with the division.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
If the Jets like have a chance, they are gonna
be playing for a wildcard spot.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
But I'm not sold on the Jets.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Don't get distracted by shiny things. This win was a
shiny thing.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
So when you talk about that first half, in the
second half of that game, there was something very crucial
that happened in that time. Yeah, Houston was without Will
Anderson for much of the second half. Yep, that throws
off everything for that defense, Like and he was playing
through injury before he even went out, Like he was
not the same player in the second half after getting

(22:05):
injured in the first. Like, I just I am so
tired of us like listening to Aaron Rodgers say these things,
these grand things, and then not holding him accountable when
things don't go wrong, and then when they do hold
him accountable. There was a reporter last week even that
asked him, Hey, do you think that this is you know,
has this been kind of a harder experience for you

(22:26):
than you would have thought, like turning like the Jets,
you know, franchise around and he goes, Aaron Rodgers is like,
that's dramatic even for you, Connor, And I'm.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
Like, that wasn't dramatic, So totally fair.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
Question.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
Is this whole Jet situation is like windows shopping but
keep walking? Yes, Like you do not need to like
invest in this Jets team.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
I really am. I'm on your side, man. I want
y'all to win. I want y'all to have that postseason
success that you've been without for so long. It's such
a good market. It's such a question fan base. I'm
a huge Ranos fan. Okay, I want that. I want
that for y'all.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
Also, like, can we talk about how gnarly the wild
card situation is gonna be like in the AFC, like
just the AFC North Steelers, Ravens, Bengals, Broncos.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
Broncos are sneaky.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
Good Like it's just yeah, they're just not good enough
and he gave up everything fired head coach is now
with your old team, which is a hilarious petty flex
that I just scored, absolutely love.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
But you're just scoring gods?

Speaker 9 (23:25):
All right?

Speaker 1 (23:25):
Well, I was check in with Martin Wise to see
what's trending.

Speaker 10 (23:30):
A couple of top twenty five matchups going on right now.
Unfortunately Arizona State not involved in one of them.

Speaker 7 (23:36):
I'm sorry, Bud.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
Whatever Camp's got about just just scoring, they're not gonna be.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
Let's go up fourteen seven on Obama State.

Speaker 7 (23:42):
That kid is a boss. He is a boss. Kid
is a boss.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
I adore that man.

Speaker 10 (23:46):
He's the prototypical like your favorite like college football play like,
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (23:50):
How much it's going to translate to the NFL, but
we that's a problem for future.

Speaker 7 (23:53):
He'll never buy a beer in Tempe. Kain' a big fan.

Speaker 10 (23:58):
Right now Oregon, right now on the road Michigan leading
fourteen to seven the Ducks on the number one team
in the nation.

Speaker 7 (24:03):
It's eleven thirty lefts in the second quarter.

Speaker 10 (24:05):
They're Dalan Gabriel with ninety one yards through the air
in one touchdown so far, nine for ten, passing Georgia
with a three dozing lead over Florida the Bulldog, second
ranked team in the nation, just getting started in the
second quarter.

Speaker 7 (24:17):
In that matchup, Texas Tech still.

Speaker 10 (24:19):
Leading Iowa State with nine to twenty five left in
the second quarter. Iowa State undefeated still to the Cyclones,
though trailing ten to six to the Red Raiders, who
have already lost three games. Indiana with the ball and
drive you on Michigan State with eight thirty five left
in the second quarter. They are trailing the Spartans though
ten to seven on the road for the Indiana Hoosiers,

(24:39):
thirteenth raine team in the nation. Kerzik Lady's got them rolling.
Kansas State and Houston is still delayed. Earlier today, we
saw Ohio State Upstate upset Penn State, even though it
was just the fourth ran team, beating the third ranked
team twenty to thirteen. Miami beats Duke fifty three to
thirty one. They were actually trailing in this game in
the third quarter, ended up opening up in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 7 (25:00):
Camp Ward five touchdown passes.

Speaker 10 (25:02):
Jackson Dart had more, though he had six as Old missed.
The nineteen thirentyeen of the Nation beat Arkansas sixty three
to thirty one. Watkins, let's sen Justin Watkins. Jordan Watkins,
I'm sorry. Five receiving touchdowns, eight catches, two hundred and
fifty four yards receiving. With that type of stat line,
the National help that Acre's got to get your name right. Army,
the twenty first team ranked team in the Nation beats

(25:24):
air Force twenty to three. Minnesota beats twenty fourth Illinois
twenty five to seventeen. In Major League Baseball, some fallout
from the World Series, Alex has been doing the last
thirty minutes of victory laft for the Dodgers.

Speaker 7 (25:37):
Not so much for the Yankees. Garret Coles opted out
for his contract.

Speaker 10 (25:43):
But get this though, if the Yankees he's got four
years left on his deal, yeah.

Speaker 7 (25:48):
Opted out.

Speaker 10 (25:48):
If the Yankees add one year and thirty six million
to the existing deal, then the opt out is void.

Speaker 7 (25:54):
They have to do it by Sunday evening.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Do it? I mean they already opt out of Rizzo.
You got one soda. I mean, these are like your
top tier guys.

Speaker 7 (26:03):
There's no doubt that they should do it.

Speaker 10 (26:05):
But it's just a what contract thing you have where
you can send four years left and opt out to
get another one.

Speaker 7 (26:10):
Yeah, for thirty six million dollars. I know, all right,
you already said. Anthony Riggo will be a free agent.
The Yankees declined his seventeen million dollar option.

Speaker 10 (26:19):
Drake may From the third pick for the New England Patriots,
their quarterback. He's third concussion protocol, expected to start against
the Titans. Who the Titans start is a bigger mystery.
Will Levy's apparently healthy, but Brian Callahan yet to commit.

Speaker 7 (26:32):
Alex and Carmen back to you, guys, can we.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
Just take a moment for like his Mayo commercials, because
they are everywhere now, Yes, it's just I mean they
leaned so.

Speaker 4 (26:40):
Hard they were earlier in the season, and you were like,
all right, great, But yeah, I had the thought too
of like, oh god, yeah it, we'll have to start sucking.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
These are not going to Yeah, they're still like they're
making a comeback now.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
It's they're everywhere. It's hilarious. Thank you Martin.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
All right, you're listening to FOSS Football Saturday. I'm Alex
Curry here with Carmen Vitally. We are broadcasting live from
the Tyrack dot coms to you. Was in Los Angeles
and it is time for our first guest. She just
got done covering the World Series for Spectrum Sports LA.
She was at that crazy Dodgers parade downtown yesterday, our
little ray of sunshine Nikki Kay.

Speaker 8 (27:13):
Right, guys, Oh my gosh, I'm like in disbelief because
a week ago I was at Dodgers Stadium talking to
you on the phone and like, yeah.

Speaker 11 (27:20):
Holy cow, Holy cow, I know what.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
An insane World Series. You were there for every moment
of it. So take us inside that clubhouse after the
Dodgers won, Like, what was that like, Alex.

Speaker 8 (27:34):
And first of all, like it was just absolutely insane
because of the way that game played out. I mean,
before we get to the clubhouse, we just have to
talk about the vibes that happened in Yankee Stadium, like
Dodgers down five though, right, and I'm like already texting
my co workers like, okay, so let's start coverage ideas
for you know, Game six.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
Blah blah blah, seek everyone.

Speaker 8 (27:57):
Then they did a little, a little something. I changed
my shoes, I used my shoes, and I just started
walking around the ballpark, you know, got to mix up
the mojo. And I'm out in the bleachers with the
Yankees fans, and all of a sudden, it starts getting
real quiet, and I'm like, what just happened? And from
the time it started walking to when I got to
the bleachers, it was that series of unearned errors.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Okay, you know the down.

Speaker 8 (28:20):
I mean underned Rudds, Yes, the error comedy as we
know it, and the games tied, and then just those
those final innings Walker Bueller dominating, and it's like we
start hearing down in the tunnel, like screams from the Dodgers'
clubhouse offices, and it's and we're like, oh my god,
they did it. So you run out onto the field

(28:42):
cheered jubilation. Thousands of Dodger fans just lingering and soaking
it all in watching that Chophy presentation.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
Wasn't that amount of Dodger fans there?

Speaker 11 (28:51):
Oh? I couldn't.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
I couldn't like tell by the angles they were showing
on TV. I was like, please say there was like,
you know, a decent amount.

Speaker 8 (28:57):
Yeah, And I was talking to someone about it because
the colors, like obviously Yankees colors are dark blue and
white and Dodger colors are that pantoon to before, but
it doesn't lend itself to pop out right. And also
there's not a lot of like pockets of seats, so
everyone was kind of sprinkled throughout. But by the end

(29:17):
of the game, like, oh, there was a really good
turnout and fans had time to get to New York
as the series progressed, I think. So it was it
was so beautiful. Fans were cheering, you know, chanting Freddy
over and over again, watching each player walk into the
clubhouse after the trophy presentation, Fans were screaming each of
their names. You know, it was. It was awesome. And

(29:39):
then in that clubhouse it was the most beautiful form
of chaos and mayhem. And the fear is still in
my hair, you know, it's just it was and guys,
guys were just joyous. And when I think I've noticed
about this team as i've been kind of reflecting on
you know, the Dodger teams of the couple past years.

(30:00):
They're a little buttoned up and stiff, and there was
something so open about this year's group of guys in
terms of how they expressed themselves, whether they felt that
chip on their shoulder was real, and then they talked
about it, you know, from being slided about the twenty
twenty World Series to overcoming injuries to not giving an

(30:21):
f as t k hernandez ad day. So it was
really special to be in that atmosphere with this group that,
you know, I would say, on a whole more open
to talking about everything they've gone through. Even Clayton Kershaw,
he'll be like, I didn't do anything to win this one,
but I'm soaking it off.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 4 (30:40):
I mean, do not ever apologize, especially when Kersh has
given this franchise so much of himself and his life.
But Nikki, I mean I saw the footage from inside
the clubhouse and you're just absolutely soaked. It was so cute.
You did such a wonderful job. But what struck me
about a lot of these interviews was that these guys,
we're not like they were praising each other they took

(31:02):
all of that time to say, oh, yeah, I'm super excited,
but you know what, I'm happy for so and so
I'm happy for this teammate.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
I'm happy for that teammate. I mean, how did that.

Speaker 4 (31:12):
Strike you when you were going around doing these interviews,
you know, among all of the sprays and the beer.

Speaker 8 (31:19):
That's such good that's such a good point. And it's
the same It really is, you know, highlighted by the
happiness for Freddie Freeman, right, and this guy, this guy's
career is built on delivering in big moments, but it
really unfolded. I mean, this this world series unfolded for
him like a movie script, and just in terms of

(31:39):
everything he and his family have been through, and then
hearing his teammates, you know, be be so thrilled for him,
as if his success was their own. Uh, it's really
revealing about how how close this group has been. And
then the way they talked about Bueller stepping up and
I read this this incredible moment as Walker Dueler was

(32:00):
walking to the you know, the bullpen, apparently kersh I'll
pulled them aside before he walked made the walk over
there and said I love you and it's like, you
know that in the parade yesterday you have you have
Dueler wearing Oral Hirscheiser's jersey, Kirshaw's arms and I'm like,
this is poetry.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Like It's just it was so cool. So, Nikki big
now one two World Series in five years. Do you
believe this Dodgers team can be the next big dynasty?

Speaker 8 (32:30):
I do, actually, and I'm not. I'm never one to
get like, you know, I kind of hate the I
hate the window talk that immediately happens after, you know,
team successes, but thinking, I mean key Kate said it
in his his parade speech yesterday, He's like, you know,
we said we were going to be the best team
of the twenty twenties and here we are with two
championships and now. But what I think got them or

(32:55):
can put them in that running is the way they won.
This one was gritty, It was resilient, and it showed
the dog that I didn't think this team had the
past two postseasons. You know, they crumbled under the press,
or not crumbled, they tightened up under the pressure. Yeah,
I think they're playing loose and they've got this flagger
that like and with the move the front office makes,

(33:18):
and you know they only did it with three starting picks.
It's incredible. So I actually think that. I mean baseball,
you know, the postseason can be so random, but this
is this is a team built for the long haul.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
We love it. Nick.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
I'm so happy for you. You absolutely crushed it. Thank
you for coming on throughout the postseason too.

Speaker 8 (33:39):
I was so fun, Sorge, of course, thanks for having me.
What a beautiful time for this city. And the fans
so emotional yesterday at the parade like they've been waiting
for a moment like this for decades, like the past
four decades, basically thirty six years, and so really really special.
And I hope we are all just soaking in that
blue revelry the next couple.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Of weeks, right, we are. We love you. Thank you
so much for coming on.

Speaker 11 (34:04):
I love you guys.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Saturday, Bye bye, man, all right when we come back.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
You guys, it's the Dues and the Don't in sports.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio there it is the
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Speaker 1 (34:17):
Welcome to.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
Just brings back my preteen years of Washington.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
It's just so good.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
You're listening to Fox Football Saturday I'm Alex Curry here
with Carmen Vitalian. We're broadcasting live from the Tirek dot
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Speaker 1 (34:31):
Songs that just bring you back are just.

Speaker 4 (34:34):
It's this was like a nationwide phenomenon that just started.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
Such a insane It's like, uh, if.

Speaker 4 (34:41):
You were like a preteen or teenager during the OC years.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
Yeah yeah, yeah again, just there it is. Let it hit.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
Nothing like it.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
It's so good.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
All right, Let's get to the dues and the don'ts
in sports. Putting a spotlight on the don't the subject
brings me no joy.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
That's insane.

Speaker 6 (35:07):
It's time for the dues and the don't and sports.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
Myself, I know, I was like, we we might start
a carryo O possession if we don't get to it
right now. It's okay, okay, I'm gonna start with a
don't don't do the players dirty. The Miami Heat revealed
their statue honoring Dwayne Wade last weekend.

Speaker 5 (35:28):
And.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
I don't if you've seen this thing, but like it
looks like a weird old man, Like I, how did it?
Oh so bad?

Speaker 3 (35:41):
How LUPA regressed.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
Columbia used the photo of d Wade's statue on the
jumbo tron behind the field goal to distract Yells kicker yesterday, Like.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
It's it's good, laughable, but even like, I.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
Just don't understand how like ar Da Vinci like did
all of these incredible sculptures four hundred years ago and
we've regrets.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
This doesn't make sense.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Like I looked at that, I was like, it's not
even close. There's nothing on that face that looks like
the way that was so hard?

Speaker 1 (36:14):
Yeah, so bad?

Speaker 4 (36:15):
Okay, Uh, do play nice with each other, Okay. Trayvon
Diggs and a reporter, a TV reporter in Dallas got
into it after the Cowboys lost last week over a
tweet that the TV reporter had tweeted out wondering what
Trayvon Diggs was doing on a certain play, and Drayvon,

(36:35):
like still had his pads on, came out of the
locker room as soon as the game was over to
confront the reporter about it.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
And the reporter was like, well, like, please, let's have
a conversation.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
Yeah, and Trayvon was like we can have we can
talk about these nooks and it was just this huge thing.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
Yeah, I don't know, can I say that i'm I'm,
I'm rather might have done it well.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
He was holding a past week.

Speaker 4 (36:59):
Then Trayvon comes out to media availability, goes up to
the reporter and hands and mccannon of nuts. Yeah, that
are described as that, and they buried the hatchet. They
talked it through or they apologized to each other. We
need to just like just have better discourse guys, Like, come.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
On, everyone's just trying to do their job.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
Everybody's trying to do their job.

Speaker 4 (37:18):
And I mean, can can a reporter not be a
snarky sure, but like Treyvon, dude, before you even have
the pats.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
Off my guy, Yeah, gnarlinge okay, do lean in to
talk and smack if you're a chap he k Hernandez
has had some legendary quotable moments during this playoff run,
obviously with the first are we live, we don't give
a bleep, But at their parade yesterday, he gave ice

(37:45):
Cube a shout out after performing at Game two, saying
after his performance, we didn't need to play anymore because
we had already won. But then he took a shot
at Fat Joe performing at Yankee Stadium for Game three,
which the Dodgers won, saying there's a guy who's not
fat anymore, so just a joe. He came out and
saying we didn't need to play anymore because after that.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Performance we had already won. He just gay was on fire.

Speaker 4 (38:10):
Not only season like, talk your whatever. You need to
be able to back it up. That's that's the big
part of all of this. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yah
is d back it up?

Speaker 3 (38:19):
Yeah? Yeah, so that that makes it great? Yeah, Okay, I.

Speaker 4 (38:23):
Have maybe somebody who should think twice about talking some smack. Yeah,
do be afraid to get hit more people as a
general rule, and need to be more afraid of getting
smacked or hit or honestly, when you're out in traffic
and you're a pedestrian, be a little bit more afraid
or aware of how much cars can see you.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
It's my biggest pet peeve. But Jason Kelsey in.

Speaker 4 (38:48):
State college and he was walking through like up to
the stadium whatever, he was on the Pat McAfee or
on college game day rather and this fan starts heckling him,
uses a homophobic slur to describe his brother. Travis Kelce,
arguably the greatest tight end, one of the greatest tight
ends in NFL history, and Jason Kelsey turns around, grabs

(39:10):
the guy's phone and smashes it.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
Yeah, that guy is lucky.

Speaker 4 (39:14):
That Jason Kelsey decided to just grab his phone. Because
all y'all that talks back to these athletes online. I'd
like to think my friend Aleka Sadaggi, she said this
on Twitter. I'd like to think that you wouldn't say
it to their face. Some of y'all are stupid enough
to say it to their face, like they.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
Can't drop you in one fell swoop.

Speaker 4 (39:35):
Jason Kelce, I commend you for the restraint that you
had in just smashing this guy's phone. Guys do not
come for these athletes, especially on some really awful stuff
like that.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
Yeah, no, that was horrible.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
I love We've seen the whole Kelsey family like stand
up to fans who were talking smack.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
We've seen it.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
You get hit guys, Kylie go after fans for not
wanting to take a photo. Jason had himself a dayo
because he also missed the field goal that the thing
that Pat mcbe does for like two hundred thousand dollars
to be donated, So like maybe he was a little
fiery after that. We're gonna take another break when we
come back. You got another quarterback round up. Don't go anywhere.

(40:11):
Welcome to hour two of Fox Football Saturday. I'm Alex
Curry here with Carmen Vitali. Thank you for spending your
Saturday afternoon with Carmie and me. I got a question
for you right off the top here, right right, because
we're officially in like holiday season. Yeah, but when you
have a holiday in the middle of the week, like
we just did with Halloween, Yeah, do you celebrate the
weekend before or do you celebrate after?

Speaker 1 (40:34):
Because I'm a before person and I'm.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
Like, like, go at it as as long as you
want to before, weeks before, month before to get ready.

Speaker 4 (40:43):
But like, what's this pass if you heels like it's
a case it's a case by case basis because with
Halloween and the fact that Thanksgiving is late this year,
so the window between Thanksgiving and Christmas is shorter. Yeah,
Like I have now already turned the page to Christmas. Oh,
it is absolutely Christmas for me. And I'm one of
the people that puts my tree up early. Like how

(41:03):
my fiance was like I wanted to put it up yesterday.
He's like, Carmen.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
No, a real tree or a fake tree, fake.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
One, okay, good, I have the pre lit One's in
the closet though, And I'm like, I'm just waiting to
bring it out.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
Why am I even waiting? Why not just bring it out?
It brings me so.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
Much joy, So I I double down on that. If
it brings you joy, anything in life that brings you
happiness and joy.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
Do it.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
It does no harm it.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
And if it brings you joy, who cares.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
But like, I'm a before, Like so like we did
all the Halloween parties before the weekend before?

Speaker 3 (41:34):
Yeah, you and I both want to that.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
It's like, yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (41:37):
Don't know, Yeah, no, I think I think as a
general world, I'm before.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
I'm before even the birthdays.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
I'm like, it's my birthday month all leading up to it,
but once a day passes, it's like, all right, we're
moving on to the next.

Speaker 4 (41:47):
I'm not I'm not a birthday person, but interesting, my
birthday is January third. I could never be a birthday
person because like everybody over, everyone's hung over from the holidays,
they're broke after the holidays, they're.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
Doing sober January.

Speaker 4 (42:01):
By then, no one wants to go out two days
after New Year's Yeah, so like I've never been a
birthday person.

Speaker 3 (42:06):
But no, I think I think before.

Speaker 9 (42:09):
I had a bit of an issue this week because
I went to put on Bluey for my kid. Oh
I love Yeah, I know she does too. That was Wednesday,
So that's what October thirtieth. Yeah, and I saw that
my wife had already watched Home alone. I do have
an issue with that before before November first.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
Yeah, right, Carrie was like thawing into frosting. She even
said not time yet. She did like a lot of
social media around there.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
I did not.

Speaker 4 (42:31):
I have watched a Christmas movie yet, not even the
Hallmark cheesy ones yet.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
But I'll watch ELF. I'll watch Alf year round. What.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
Oh yeah, that's my safe That's one of my safety movies.
When I was sitting abroad, I would fall asleep to Elf.
Every one of your watching, like, yeah, it's my happy place.
I just I love it makes me so happy and
I love will.

Speaker 4 (42:49):
Yeah, like my safety movies are all Harry Potter movie
we know, like Christmas movie.

Speaker 9 (42:54):
Mast Commander in my house. Harry Potter is a Christmas movie.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
Oh there see.

Speaker 9 (42:58):
Yeah, my wife watches Harry Potter.

Speaker 4 (43:02):
No, it is so like there's certain movies that are
better suited for Halloween, there's certain movies that are better
suited for Christmas. Of the series, but the series is
absolutely like once December starts, I go through a whole rewatch,
like in order. But if I need to disassociate or
like I'm having a particularly tough week, I go and
I turn on a Harry Potter.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
I just I literally just did it last night. Yeah,
like it is.

Speaker 9 (43:23):
It is Christmas time now, so it's time for Batman returns.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
No, oh, that's great.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
Yea Christmas movie, right, I'm down. I'm on board with
that again.

Speaker 3 (43:31):
Or die Hard, diehard one thousand percent of Christmas movie.

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Speaker 1 (44:07):
All Right, it's been a couple of weeks, but it's
time to do another quarterback check in and Carmen, we're
gonna start with the rookie quarterbacks because we got the
battle we were all waiting for last weekend, Caleb Williams
Jaden Daniels, and it delivered with an insane the end.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
It wasn't a great game until.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
Me Hail Mary from Jadan Daniels for the wind. Caleb
did not have the game, he won and he went
ten for twenty four, one hundred and thirty one throwing yards,
forty seven rushing yards, no touchdowns in a fumble. Meanwhile,
Jane Daniels twenty one to thirty eight, three hundred and
twenty six throwing yards, fifty two rushing yards and that touchdown.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
Hail Mary. So Jaden is.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
Very quickly I think locking up that offensive Rookie of
the Year award conversation, do you believe.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
This first season Jaden Daniels is the better co ar
to back.

Speaker 4 (45:02):
First of all, if you look at Caleb's statline, Yeah,
you need to tell the tale of like the first
nine drives versus the last two.

Speaker 3 (45:11):
Caleb Williams, what gets lost in the hell Mary conversation? Rightfully?

Speaker 4 (45:14):
So, I mean that was an extreme failure by the
Bears defense and an utter perfect.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
Execution saying everything it just worked in their favor.

Speaker 4 (45:22):
No, I mean it was an absolute like they did
not nothing about that went to plan for the Bears.
They there are strategies involved in exactly how you execute
hall Mary, how you execute to hell Mary defense. Yeah,
starting to play before even the Bears just completely broke down.
The Commander's then in turn did like a Jayden beautiful right.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:42):
But Caleb Williams.

Speaker 4 (45:43):
Had the Bears in position to win that game twenty
five seconds left on the clock. The defense did their job.
They held the commanders of field goals. The Commander's offense
and Jade Daniels were over three in the red zone
that entire game. They had to settle for field goals
every step of the way up until the end of
the game. And then you had Kleb Williams leading two

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scoring drives at the end of that game, pulling the
Bears within or pulling.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
The Bears to the lead.

Speaker 4 (46:11):
They hadn't led the entire game, and you pull them
ahead with twenty five seconds left to go, even when
things weren't all going well for the offense. That to
me is so incredibly impressive that it's not something that's
going to show up on the stat sheet, but Caleb
Williams having the mental acuity and toughness to do that,
to stick with it when nothing was working up until

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that point, including himself. He had a terrible three quarters,
but that last quarter, those last two drives showed me
so many encouraging things about Caleb Williams that if you're
I'm not gonna, I can't say who's gonna end up
being the better quarterback at this stage of the game,
because if you also.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
Listen, like no, right now, right now, right now.

Speaker 4 (46:57):
Jaden Daniels was put in I think a more favorable situation.
I'll concede on that, because not concede. I love Jade Daniels, Yeah,
I've loved him. You know at LSU, he did so
many incredible things that if LSU didn't have a terrible
defense last year, you're talking about a national champion probably
the approach and I had this up on Fox sports
dot com this week. The approach that the team that

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each team took with these quarterbacks was drastically different. Jaden
Daniels was allowed to ease into the game. What Cliff
Kingsbury did so well as his offensive coordinator is blend
the college game with the NFL game, and he didn't
expect too much from Jaden Daniels right at the get go.

Speaker 3 (47:35):
He let him ease.

Speaker 4 (47:36):
Into making certain calls at the line or AUDIBLNK. He
let him ease into just throwing down the field and
play action in general.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
How if you look at Jade and daniels first four
games versus.

Speaker 4 (47:48):
Last four games, it is a tale of a guy
that was allowed to wasn't given a lot.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
So it's the right way to develop a rookie quarterback
if you're starting them right out of the gates.

Speaker 4 (47:59):
I'm not even here like that article wasn't even to
say which one is right and which one is wrong,
because every quarterback is different, everyone every quarterback learns different.
You contrast that with what the Bears did. They gave
everything to Caleb Williams, all of the protection calls, all
of the entire playbook, the different option routes, the progressions,
the multiple the lengthy progressions, rather like he has to

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get through multiple reads on each play. And that was
right from jump their betting that Caleb Williams is a
good enough player to just come out the other side,
to be able to figure that out in the fire
and then come out.

Speaker 3 (48:35):
The other day.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
I believe that he is at this point, like what
is that in the locker room, everyone has his back
and go that Washington.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
Game, that Washington game. Alex proved that that is exactly.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
The teammates and the coaches and everyone believes and they
see that, Yes, that's been the conversation.

Speaker 4 (48:52):
Yes, absolutely, this team is behind Caleb because he again
pulled that team out of the seller in that game,
got them to the lead with twenty five seconds to go.
And now you have a I think the bigger story
with any of this is the situation that Kayleb Williams
is now in because it looks like that team, that

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organization is fracturing before our eyes because there were multiple
players that came out that openly criticized coaching decisions leaders
in the locker room. You had DJ Moore come out
and say, yeah, I talked about it in the beginning
of the week, and then I talked to Matt Eberflus
about it behind the closed doors, and he said, we
need to keep that internal. But then I said what

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I said, DJ Moore openly defying and doubling down on
bringing that kind of stuff out into the public. That
is what is more concerning to me. But I also
think that that is that this is a player led team. Yeah,
and one of the players leading this team is a rookie.
It is Caleb Williams, and they appreciate him, and they're

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taking kind of his side, taking the ball out of
his hands in certain situations they haven't you agreed with that.
The goal line play with the handoff to Doug Kramer,
the offensive lineman, I don't have as much of a
problem with that as most people do. I don't think
it was the right call, but I also think that
it ended up being a net good because then you
wasted more time and the Bears were able to take

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the lead. Anyway, Yeah, I'm very concerned as to if
Matti Eberflue still has this locker room.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
That was my next question. Do you think Eberflus is
on the hot seat. Yeah, if this doesn't go well. Honestly,
this is kind of his last chance moment season. I
mean with Caleb.

Speaker 4 (50:38):
Well, I don't like that phrasing either necessarily, but it's
one of those things where I've been a defender at
Matti Eberflus for a very long time because he has
done his job defensively. That defense is the reason they
were in that Washington game to begin with. For Caleb
Williams to come back. That defense started out as a
top five unit and has not led up this season.
They are incredible, Yeah, and they have the talent, they're

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working together, it's all clicking. What Mattieberflues becomes increasingly harder
to defend is his game management decisions. And when you
talk about him doubling down even to his players privately,
about allowing Terry McLaurin to catch that fifteen yard out
and get out out of bounds before the hell Mary
that set up the hell Mary that made that probability

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go up.

Speaker 3 (51:22):
That's where you lose me.

Speaker 4 (51:24):
And the fact that Tyreek Stevenson on the hail Mary
has his back turned to the play, isn't involved in
the play for the first five seconds it's going on. Then,
to make up for that fact, he decides he's going
to go rogue, and he goes and tips the ball
into the hands of the guy that he was supposed.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
To be covering.

Speaker 4 (51:44):
When you see Tyreek Stevens saw on the other side
of the field jawing at fans. You have three timeouts,
Matti ebraflues call a timeout, even if it's just to
make sure that all of your guys.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
Are on the same page.

Speaker 4 (51:56):
There are plenty of coaches that in the way that
you ice kickers, they will take a time out before
a hell Mary attempt. There's nothing to be gained by
the offense if you take a time out. Like everyone
knows what's coming. There's only one way really to execute
a hail Mary. It's a low probability play as it is,
you might as well just take the time out there
and then, especially if you see one of your players

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it's completely oblivious to the play going on.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
It's mind boggling to me. And that's the thing.

Speaker 4 (52:23):
It's so disheartening because again, I'm such a big believer
in Maddie Brafluce as the defensive coordinator, as the defensive
play caller, as the coach and the exes and O's guy,
but routinely, whether it's whether or not he should challenge something,
the mismanagement of timeouts, leaving timeouts on there again, not
calling your team back and being totally aware of what's

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happening with all eleven guys on the field. That is
what is an excuseable to me. That is what I
cannot defend. I'm not gonna make any sweeping conclusions about
it because this is someone's job we're talking about here,
and we don't know how much accountability was taken behind
the scenes, So I don't know, but I do know
that there this is kind of a pivot or a
turning point for the Chicago Bears. And if they can

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bounce back against Arizona, cool, that's that's that's gonna be
a net good then. But this is something that can snowball,
and that's where I'm a free Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
It also like hurts that they are in the toughest
division for sple well, the NFC North is like every
team has a winning record, This is like last place.

Speaker 4 (53:27):
This is why I kept saying in the off season, Alex,
you and I talked about it so many times. I
only expected a winning record out of the Chicago Bears.

Speaker 3 (53:36):
Those are my only expectations for them.

Speaker 4 (53:38):
I stand behind the fact that if they get to
a winning record, that is a successful reason.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
For that, that's fine by me.

Speaker 4 (53:47):
I don't like now that you know things are starting
to click or work starting click before like and even
even in the Communities game, like I said, very encouraging
to see what Kayler Billiams was able to do at
the end of that game.

Speaker 3 (53:58):
My expectations haven't changed. I feel like they've changed.

Speaker 4 (54:00):
In Chicago or that they've been resurrected because there was
a ton of fans even before the season We're like, oh,
we're going to the playoffs. I'm like, not when you
share a division with the Packers and the and the
Lions and now and now the Vikings.

Speaker 3 (54:13):
Who are so much better than I mean, I thought
they were.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
Going to be good.

Speaker 3 (54:17):
But like, if you guys get to nine and eight.

Speaker 4 (54:20):
This year as the Chicago Bears, yeah that is a success.
But if you lose the locker room in the process,
now you're going to repeat what's happened to your two
predecessors at quarterback, where the head coaches fired a year
into the quarterback getting there, which doesn't work at all.
But now the hope in Chicago is that that's not
going to matter for Kayla Williams because he's not good

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of a player and I can't make any sleeping conclusions.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
No, I mean, but we're also we're like, we're finally
seeing the rookies, I think, really starting to settle in
halfway through the season because bo Nicks and the Broncos
finally looking good. Last week, he had his best career game,
career highs in completion percentage, passing yards, passing, touchdowns, passer rating,
and Broncos are they could be sneaky good, like they're
five and three, like not many people are talking about it.
Second in the AFC West, Chiefs are definitely probably going

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to win the division.

Speaker 3 (55:07):
We've been talking I've been talking about the.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
Broncos season solid for a wildcard spot and well, like
Bonix has Bonix has looked the same this entire season. Well,
Sean Payton like he's been raving about Bonick since he
got his guy saying and he feels like you would
settle in by Thanksgiving. And so we're like we're approaching,
but we're approaching that moment in that time.

Speaker 4 (55:29):
Bonix is the only other quarterback other than Josh Allen
that has multiple passing touchdowns in multiple games and a
rushing touchdown in those games. Bonix is the exact same person,
has been the exact same person all year. Yeah, which
is to say he's been very serviceable. He's done everything
he's been asked to do. The floor with Bonis is
very high. The question still is how high is the ceiling,

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because let's not forget this last game. Yes, there was
a little bit of an uptake in his stats. Yeah,
but it was against the Carolina Panthers. Yeah, so you're
going to get a from that. I Bicks has been
has been good.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
Yeah, but you also see like a Rogers like lose
to the Patriots. So it's like it's like the Panthers.

Speaker 4 (56:07):
The Patriots are different, like the Panthers are Unfortunately very
I'm very wary of any performances against the Carolina Panthers
because of the fact that we've seen fools gold across
the board. But my point is bon Nicks has been
good all season. He's been very, very, very steady. He's
been very solid. He's done again exactly enough to get

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the Broncos some wins because of the fact that they
have an extraordinarily good defense, and this is one of
the defense it might be the best defense in football
right now, especially with that defensive line. So that coupled
with the fact that Bonix just has to be good
and he has been, so I I am all aboard

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the Broncos making a surprise wild card push, especially because
like there's just a lot more parroting in the AFC
than I think we thought there was going to be.
But Denver does Baltimore this week, so that's going to
be a big kind of test how much how much
lower does the floor get for Bonix against a team
like this. But again, he doesn't need to do much.

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He hasn't needed to do much. He's done exactly what
now does They've asked you need to do it? And
we're in an age where we've seen sometimes it just
takes a couple of years to really see what these
guys are capable of.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
Yeah, I mean there's a reason, like he's having coms
to Drew Brees. This is a style that Sean Payton
likes and knows how to work with, and it's his
guy and for him, it has to work and it's
feeling like it's trending in the right direction. We're going
to take a quick break here, but when we come back,
the Cowboys are making the wrong headlines once again. You're
listening to Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back to Fox Football

(57:42):
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Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1 (58:15):
Well well well, Carmen, Yeah, the Cowboys are making the
wrong headlines.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
I am the pretense shock me again.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
Like they have just been a hot mess this season
and every time they're in the like in the news,
it's non football like like non play like non football
play oriented like, so, yes, yes, before actually.

Speaker 4 (58:38):
Before we get to this out, yeah, because something just
happened while we were on the air, essentially right when
we got here.

Speaker 9 (58:43):
Let's go.

Speaker 4 (58:44):
Zeke Elliott is not traveling with the team to wo
Atlanta for disciplinary reasons, Alex, this is the worst rushing
offense in the league.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
Did did they say what he did?

Speaker 8 (58:54):
No?

Speaker 4 (58:54):
They just said it was disciplinary reasons. And I just
want to know what its taste. Zeke, how long have
you been in this league?

Speaker 6 (59:01):
Good?

Speaker 3 (59:01):
Lord, b you have the worst rushing offense in the league.
That's not hyperbole, that's statistically true. Bad, You're good.

Speaker 4 (59:10):
Not that I think that Jonas talked about it right
before we got on here.

Speaker 6 (59:14):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (59:14):
I'm an under no illusion that Zeke Elliott is the
dude anymore or is the player that he once was.

Speaker 3 (59:20):
But you need all hands on.

Speaker 1 (59:21):
Deck everything like anything and everything. It's just laughable. It
is hot. It is a hot mess in Dallas.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
And this week the other big headline was Michael Parsons
and Trayvon Diggs did not name dak as one of
their top quarterbacks in the league right now. This happened
on Micah's podcast. Obviously, Mike's not playing at the moment.
Trevon is a game time decision. And there they're lists
included Mahomes, Josh Allen Lamar, Jalen Hurts, Jane Daniels, Jared Goff,
Matthew Safford, and Sam Darnold.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
Now I'm just gonna say, I think this is a
big deal because this is your guy, and you need
to have a rider diamontality for your teammate if you
want to. We see it all the time, like you
always throw your quarterback's name in there. Whatever, these conversations
and these lists come out, even if he's your last one,
you can't even say off the.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
Top, well you know obviously, like he's my guy, like
back in there like that, this is who we're playing
with right now.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
Like it's just no matter what you say, we are.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
All humans and you're gonna take something like that personally,
Like we all need recognitions and reminders and when your teammates.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
With someone, you have to hype up your people. You
have to hype up your people.

Speaker 3 (01:00:30):
I actually don't have a problem with it.

Speaker 4 (01:00:32):
I think it's I think it's great that like these
guys are actually being because so much of what player
led media is it's only showing like one side of
the story, and you're only getting one perspective, and you're
not really getting that objective kind of analysis.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
There's no way, and so it becomes a good thing
in the locker room.

Speaker 4 (01:00:47):
Like, I just I don't think it's that big of
a deal because quite frankly too, they're right, Dak Prescott
is not playing like a top ten quarterback right now.
His completion rate is over three percent less than his
career average, his yards per attempt is down, and like
it's not all his fault either. I mean he's got
two rookies on the offensive line. His average time to
pressure just two point five two seconds, which does rank

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fifteenth in the league. But like that's not good. And
the Cowboys have allowed the tenth most pressures of their offense.
Their offensive line has allowed the tenth most pressures of
any unit. Dak has one person to throw to and
that Ceedee Lamb, and defenses know that he's got a
thirty percent, like around a thirty percent target share. Again,
he has over thirty percent of the Cowboys receiving yards.
Like it is not a secret what the Dallas Cowboys

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can do. And they it's being taken away because defenses
know that. So Dak's stats, I mean, you're gonna get laughed.

Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
Off the screen.

Speaker 4 (01:01:38):
If what you're doing is making content and you're in
analyzing things and you're talking about the top ten quarterbacks,
you can't in good faith say that about your dude.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
You need to say something off the top, like Dak's
my boy, Like you need to mention it so it
doesn't become a headline like okay, but you.

Speaker 4 (01:01:52):
Also have to consider that, like these guys talk about
Dak all the time, and they have given him they
have they've said all of the things that I just
said about him him, They talk about him and they talk.

Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
Him up all the time. He doesn't need to keep
hammering at home. It's your guy.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
They talk enough about Dak Prescott if they mentioned him
off the top this this was not going to be
a headline talked on.

Speaker 4 (01:02:11):
I think it would have been anyway because it's the
Dallas Cowboys and like everything's going to be taken in
a vacuum and out of context and all that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
Like again, you just.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
Have to hype up your people, Like this could have
been so easily avoided. But in this conversation when you're
talking about like a top list, like you got to
mention your guy, You got to mention your guy.

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
He's not though he's not this year and it's only
this year.

Speaker 4 (01:02:31):
Like I think if you're talking like whatever, they're gonna
they're gonna obviously include that. But like again, if you
listen to their podcast, if you listen to Mike's podcast,
he routinely talks very highly about.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
It, you'd have known, like, DA's my guy. Sorry, I
think it's important. I think something you gotta do. Do
you think they're going to be uh sellers of the deadline?
They're what three and four third animal because a chance
or as delusional as.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
They should be, they got to do.

Speaker 4 (01:02:59):
Oh I'm not saying they shoul shouldn't be. I'm just
saying what's going to happen. Like Jerry is absolutely still
thinking that they're Like he didn't add, so he's not
gonna subtract either because he thinks he's set with his guys.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
That's insane.

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
It's insane.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
It's absolutely it is delusional. All right now. I was
checking with Martin Wise and see what's trending.

Speaker 10 (01:03:21):
Started the second half for the number one team, in
the nation, the Oregon Ducks. They are being in the
University of Michigan twenty eight to ten in an arbor
Dyllon Gabriel with two seventeen through the air and a touchdown.

Speaker 7 (01:03:32):
Bad news for the Florida Gators.

Speaker 10 (01:03:33):
They do have the lead going into the half over
the number two ranked Georgia Bulldogs.

Speaker 7 (01:03:37):
But DJ Lagway left this game.

Speaker 10 (01:03:39):
On a cart. They're all everything. Freshman quarterback. We're very
excited for him. Now eight and Warren in the game
taking snaps for the Gators. They do have the ball again,
ten to six. The lead for the Florida Gators ten
from thirteen to ten for the Iowa State Clyde Clones
over the Texas Tech Red Raiders. Iowa State eleventh THREEY
team in the nation, undefeated seven to oh fourho in
the Big twelve started the second half there again thirteen

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to ten to score and to the third quarter between
the Hoosiers and the Spartans. The thirteenth rank Indiana has
the twenty one to ten lead over Michigan State and
in the game that took a while to get started
here was delayed for a few minutes. Here the Houston
Cougars have a ten to three lead over the seventeenth
RNGTH Kansas State Wildcats five point thirty left in the
second quarter there. Earlier today, Ohio State upset Penn State

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twenty to thirteen. In Happy Valley, Duke beat I'm Sorry.
Miami beat Duke fifty three to thirty one. Old Miss
sixty three Arkansas thirty one. This is eight receptions for Watkins,
the wide receiver for Old Miss two hundred and fifty
four yards, five touchdowns. Jackson dark with six touchdowns altogether.
ARMYBT Air Force twenty to thirteen in Minnesota upset the

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twenty fourth RNGTH Illinois and lion I twenty five to seventeen.
In the NFL, Drake May has cleared cushion protocol the
rookie quarterbacks expected to start against the Titans for the
New Into Patriots. The Yankees have declined the option on
first basement Anthony Rizzo's contract.

Speaker 7 (01:05:01):
He's a free agent.

Speaker 10 (01:05:02):
Garrett Cole has opted out of his contract with the Yankees,
but it's not that simple because if the Yankees add
one year and thirty six million dollars to Cole's existing
deal by Sunday evening, the opt that will be avoided
and Cole remain a Yankee for the next four years
on this contract plus that one.

Speaker 7 (01:05:18):
Alex and Carmen back to you, guys.

Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
So wild.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
Thank you Martin. You're listening to fox Foot Fall Saturday.
I'm Alex Curry here with Carmen Vitally. We're broadcasting live
from the tarotot Com studios in Los Angeles.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
It is time for our next guest.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
She's sports anchor and reporter for CBS Detroit, Rachel Hotmeyer.

Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
Thank you for joining the show.

Speaker 11 (01:05:35):
I'm so happy to be here Saturdays and for.

Speaker 4 (01:05:37):
The girl Yes Saturdays and for the girls rage. It's
so wonderful to hear your amazing angelic voice.

Speaker 11 (01:05:44):
Oh my gosh. I mean, I'm lucky enough to talk
about the NFC North with d and her Carmen Vitalion.
We have Alex Curry cooking it up, guys, and doesn't
get better than.

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
This, top it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
I love this.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
I mean, NFC North is, like we were just talking
about it earlier, the toughest division in football and you
have the Lions atop the NFC North. Now, last season
Lions kind of had that like underdog team without that
target on their back.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
But this year, Like everybody knows.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
Who they are and they're forced to be reckoned with,
so like, how do they maintain because that was a
big part of their like the grit, that underdog mentality.
How have you seen them kind of keep that going
under fire this year.

Speaker 11 (01:06:20):
It's really from the top down. And it's not only
on the field, it's off the field too. It's the
confidence and aura and personality that emanates from none other
than Dan Campbell. Even all week at the facility, he's
wearing that salty sweatshirt, like three seasons, I love him
and I love Yah.

Speaker 6 (01:06:38):
I'm salty.

Speaker 11 (01:06:39):
I need a section like that. But it's true. It's
just how they approach things. That's who they are. There's
an appropriate chip on their shoulder and oh yeah, on
the gridiron, they're going to beat the crap out of
you too.

Speaker 4 (01:06:51):
They're such a fun team. They're so easy to root for.
You see Dan Campbell, his wife posted a picture of
them on date night and he's got his hair Hold
Charity button.

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
Up shirt on.

Speaker 4 (01:07:01):
It's so unbelievably pure for such a for a man
that is just so aggressive in every other aspect.

Speaker 11 (01:07:08):
For decades now, Like Holly knows what this life is about.

Speaker 3 (01:07:13):
Did she hashtag FTP?

Speaker 8 (01:07:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:07:17):
All right, for those that know, you know, it's F
the Packers. That's what it stands for.

Speaker 3 (01:07:23):
What a gem.

Speaker 4 (01:07:24):
But I want to also talk about Ben Johnson because
this man is just playing with his food at this point,
and he just seems I've been joking on online, like
he has a blood feud with every opponent that they play,
and he just seems like he wants to embarrass people.
I think it's hysterical where he like isolates something about
another team and says, now, we could do that better
than you.

Speaker 11 (01:07:45):
Like I visualize it. It's like you know that screenshot
from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia where the guys like
manically pointing at the walls, are some crazy streaks all
over it. Like I have to imagine at least one
night a week that's the john hooking up the craziest
play you've seen, like.

Speaker 4 (01:08:03):
Just the Cowboys game where you know it was the
infamous reporting eligible with the lineman debacle last year, and
then he goes in there and like every trick play
is a way to get an offensive lineman to score.
It's just chef's kiss and him and Jared Goff have
had just the most incredible relationship. Jared Goff has had
the most incredible resurgence. And what's really impressive to me

(01:08:26):
about Jared is that his processing power has gotten so
much better. It's comes such a long way from when
he was first in the league, when he was first
with the Rams. He is like effortlessly diagnosing things, and
him and Ben Jonson have just worked together so beautifully
to the point where Jared Goff is now as an
MVP case. So Rachel make the MVP case for Jared Goff.

Speaker 11 (01:08:45):
For me, it's true with that Carmen is exactly what
I tell people with what's improved specifically with Jared, not
just what's around him between last year and this year.
It's that processing power, It's that confidence, that millisecond more
speed reading the options from the pocket. I mean, he
led the league at eighty percent completion rate at one

(01:09:05):
hundred and forty nine point zero passer rating this month
to be the NFC's offensive Player of the Month. And
it doesn't just have to be the month. Multiple weeks
in a row, we're sitting in the press box being like, oh,
is this going to be another casually perfect game from
the pocket like it's effortless. And yes, I'm not going
to lie and say that this happens without all of

(01:09:25):
the tools around him on both sides of the ball.
But Bach has incrementally, season after season, come a long
way from what he looked like at Cal to a
much stronger quarterback. That it's not like he's Lamar Jackson
running out there, or it's not like he's Malik Willis,
which we might see tomorrow, but he's quick at heck mentally.

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
So with all the good that the Lions have done
this season, coaching players, everything, they also took a big
hit losing Aiden Hutchinson. Is there any talk about making
a move to kind of bolster the defense before the
trade deadline next Tuesday.

Speaker 11 (01:09:58):
There's definitely discussion. I wouldn't be a half. We're talking
about something, but they're not willing to sell any part
of what's keeping this game going right now, so Brad
Holmes is gonna have to get creative with it. They
would love to bring someone in, but they also do
rely on guys like Josh Pastell to set the edge.
Now he's out this Sunday as well, and that's a
big loss too. Nobody can be Hut. He was on

(01:10:20):
track for Defensive Player of the Year. And I'm not
even trying to blow smoke up that, but the reality
is that they're definitely looking.

Speaker 4 (01:10:27):
Yeah, And I mean you saw Dan Campbell get giddy
at the podium when he was asked about it earlier
this week. But I am with you though that, like,
not only do you not want to give up any
of the pieces you have in a trade, but you
don't really want to give up any future draft capital either.
Given Brad holmes hit rate in the draft, It's something
like we're not talking enough about it over the last

(01:10:48):
few years, just how well this team has drafted and
how immediately they've seen the impact from these players. So
as much as I want to talk about what an
incredible thing it would be for the Lions to get
someone like I don't know, Max Crosby, like, there's just
no way that they end up giving up something that
like what it would take to get a player like that.

Speaker 11 (01:11:08):
No, a majority of these starters have come from Brad
Holmes just hitting darts on the board. It's like Brad
Holmes is doing in the regular draft what Bill Belichick
used to do with lacrosse players. Is just expanding on
it and turning it into I can make a weapon
out of everybody. And I'm looking at this tape and
I don't know if that's the Chris Fielman in the
back of their pocket or what, but it absolutely incredible

(01:11:30):
to see. You know, you want to talk about development
around the league, this place knows how.

Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
To do it. That's that New England and you girl,
I hear it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
Well, let's talk about that big division game tomorrow, the
game of the week. What are your expectations for this
Lions Packers matchup.

Speaker 11 (01:11:46):
It's gonna be a brawl, truly, and I think until
the bock runs out, we still don't know what we're
going to see for the Packers leading man, and that
shouldn't change that much. Yes, Malik is a lot speedier
and has had incredible success and limited opportunities, but the
line's defense so far has been consistent to show up

(01:12:06):
whenever they are called on, even if it's the first
turnover of the game. And you have your work cut
out for you because the Packers know how to win
that takeaway game as well, so you're going to have
to beat them at that angle as well. You've got
to protect the pocket for golf, because as we saw
even against the Titans last week, that game started off
a little rough because they weren't able to reach Jared
quite a few times. But I've been consistent with my

(01:12:28):
score predictions all week, so I can't bult on that.
Now I'm visiting thirty one to twenty one line.

Speaker 3 (01:12:35):
Okay, Wow, that big of a difference. Huh.

Speaker 11 (01:12:38):
It just can add up really quickly. That's like people
want to talk about the Vikings, and Dan Campbell characterized
it too. Going into Minnesota, you don't want to get
down one score too quickly, but you've got Jake Bates
in the pocket to throw an extra one on there.
Anything can happen. And I think you just missed one
drive and this team will make you regret it.

Speaker 4 (01:12:55):
I'm very interested to see how aggressive they are given
the fact that you know, guys like Xavier and even
Evan Williams for the Packers have just been take like
takeaway machines, and they can make you pay for it
so incredibly quickly. And not to mention this offense in
Green Bay, it's really hard to contend with given the
receiving options that they have. So I feel like the
Lion's secondary is going to be what stressed the most

(01:13:17):
in this game.

Speaker 3 (01:13:18):
How is the health of all of those guys.

Speaker 4 (01:13:20):
And we know Brian branch And and Kirby Joseph two
of the highest grand safeties in the league. But I'm
a little worried about those outside corners.

Speaker 11 (01:13:27):
Yeah, and there is those are going to be the
matchup you want to look for anytime I see Green
Bay on the schedule. I was here for two years.
You always want to look up Whojah is going to
go deep against. And same on this then too, because
with this core and this dB room, anybody eats. Just
last week it's a Meek Robertson with two Morton fumbles.
They're looking for the punch out. They're ballhawks in there,

(01:13:47):
so I'm not worried about the depth and their ability
to step up there. They did end up signing another
defensive lineman to the squad because with Mecky Wingo and
some of those guys, now it's it's going to get interesting.

Speaker 4 (01:14:00):
My guy Pat O'Connor, my guy Pad O'Connor has been active.

Speaker 3 (01:14:03):
We love him exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
Rachel, thank you so much for joining us. This was
such great insight loved having you on the show.

Speaker 11 (01:14:11):
Have a great Saturday, guys.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
Bye you too.

Speaker 2 (01:14:14):
All right, guys, we got one more break here. When
we come back, we're making our Week nine NFL Picks.
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. You're listening to Fox
Football Saturday. Alex Curry here with Carmen Vitally. We are
broadcasting live from the tart dot Com Studios in Los Angeles,
and it is time for our Week nine NFL Picks.

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
Producer Bo you ready to lead us through?

Speaker 2 (01:14:38):
Hold on, We'll give him a moment. He was already
packing up and ready to go.

Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
We forget. Yes, it's okay. We'll let him get it on.
We'll start. I'll start off with the first one you
back you in.

Speaker 9 (01:14:50):
Yes, I'm here. That was magic. My bad.

Speaker 1 (01:14:53):
That's okay, I bad. You got our list right?

Speaker 9 (01:14:56):
Yes, no, I have your I have your picks here
you We are starting here with the Miami Dolph at
the Buffalo Bills, where the Bills are a six and
a half point favorite at home.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
Yeah, all right, in Josh Allen, we trust the Bills
have owned the Dolphins with Josh as a starter again,
heince Miami. He is twelve and two so there's gonna
be I think also a little bit of I don't
know it, do be anxiety or tension around this game
because Game two versus the Bills is went Tua went
down with his concussion to like start the season.

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
But division games are always big. I think the Bills
take this one easy.

Speaker 4 (01:15:29):
I think the biggest thing here is that it's at
home for the Bills, and they're just they're really good
at home. And I don't necessarily I like the Dolphins
offense has to get going. You've got to get Tyreek
Hill like in space to let him do his thing.
It needs to be explosive, because it wasn't with two
hour h But I'm still taking the Bills.

Speaker 9 (01:15:45):
Yeah, all right. Next up, the Dallas Cowboys head down
to Atlanta to take on the Falcons. Falcons a three
and a half point favorite at home here over the Cowboys.

Speaker 4 (01:15:53):
Yeah, and they should be more than that. The vibes
are so bad in Dallas. They cannot run the football,
nor can they defend the run.

Speaker 3 (01:15:59):
For that matter.

Speaker 4 (01:16:00):
They're going to be going against one be John Robinson.
So I'm taking the Falcons pretty handily here, especially with
seek Elliott, Like what are we doing derond Blan is
not playing because they were.

Speaker 6 (01:16:16):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:16:16):
Yeah, yeah, he's not even on the trip.

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
But Jane Slater NFL Networks, Cowboys running back Ezekiel Elliott
won't be making the trip to Atlanta for disciplinary reasons
and will be inactive Sunday Falcons what hands down, I
am also taking the Falcons. I do not trust the
Cowboys at all. It has been just a hot mess

(01:16:39):
for all like non football reasons, Like it's all been
outside of their actual play on the field.

Speaker 3 (01:16:43):
I mean they're playing on the field also hasn't been good.

Speaker 4 (01:16:45):
True, but likeies, they don't have enough offensive weapons for deck,
they don't have a run game.

Speaker 1 (01:16:51):
It's it's not gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (01:16:52):
Kirk Cousins take it that he's been doing thriving in Atlanta.
I think he takes advantage of a struggling Dallas team.

Speaker 1 (01:17:00):
Yeah what you're saying.

Speaker 3 (01:17:01):
Kirko bangs.

Speaker 4 (01:17:05):
It started in Minnesota and it's just grown in Atlanta,
all right?

Speaker 3 (01:17:09):
That swag surf song.

Speaker 9 (01:17:11):
Next up, the Denver Broncos head to Baltimore take on
the Ravens. The Baltimore a heavy nine point favorite in
this one.

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
Yeah, that's a big favorite.

Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
As we said earlier, I think Broncos are like a
sneaky good team, but they're also playing like a very
well rounded Ravens team. I'm gonna roll with Lamar and
the Ravens. They're coming off a tough loss to the Browns,
so I think Ravens and Lamar bounce back and take
this one against Denver.

Speaker 4 (01:17:42):
If if we were picking against the spread, I would
actually take the Broncos. I think this is gonna be
a really tough game because I think that the Broncos.
Broncos match up well with what the Ravens do, which
is run the football. That defensive line is something to
be scared about. But this is in Baltimore, and it's
like Altimore has two division games coming up after this,
so I think that they are they know that they

(01:18:05):
have to take this one. So I'm gonna go with
the Ravens as well. But I do think it's going
to be really close.

Speaker 2 (01:18:10):
Yeah, I definitely think it's closer than like how big
this spread is.

Speaker 9 (01:18:15):
All right, NFC North Showdown, the Detroit Lions head to
Green Bay and Lambeaufield take on the Packers. The Lions, however,
the favorite in this one a three point road favorite
for Detroit.

Speaker 4 (01:18:25):
I know, I hate that I have to pick this
game because I really don't know. I think it comes
down to like literally a coin toss like it did
with you know, between the Minnesota Vikings and the Detroit Lions.
This is gonna be a dogfight, like we talked to
Rachel about, I.

Speaker 3 (01:18:39):
Am gonna go with the Lions. But again, if we
were picking a.

Speaker 4 (01:18:42):
Guest to spread, yeah, I'm taking it like this. This
is the this is the Lions first outdoor game of
the year.

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
They played out crazy halfway through the season and it's
their first outdoor game.

Speaker 3 (01:18:52):
It's gonna it's gonna be wild. I'm so excited for
this game.

Speaker 1 (01:18:54):
It's gonna be incredible.

Speaker 2 (01:18:55):
I mean, Jared goff is having an MVP caliber season.
Would't have been officially confirmed. I know he's trending towards playing.

Speaker 4 (01:19:04):
They haven't made those okay, haven't made the announcement that
he's definitely starting, but it looks like.

Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
He's going like he's going to I'm also going to
take the Lions.

Speaker 3 (01:19:12):
Either, So also that's the biggest thing.

Speaker 1 (01:19:15):
Not great news, all.

Speaker 9 (01:19:17):
Right, last one here, the Bucks take on the Chiefs
and Kansas City the Chiefs again a nine point favorite.
I need you guys to pick separate teams because you
guys are going chuck.

Speaker 1 (01:19:25):
Are we serious? I can't.

Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
I'm not betting against Patrick Mahomes and the undefeated Chiefs
like I'm just it can't happen.

Speaker 4 (01:19:32):
I'm not betting us overall, but for one game. Although
I did this thing did last week where I took
you know what, whatever, I'm still going to take the bucks.
Todd Bowles knows what to do with Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 3 (01:19:42):
He has you know.

Speaker 1 (01:19:45):
You actually believe that.

Speaker 4 (01:19:47):
No, I'm gonna do it for I'm doing it for
the plot, Alex. I'm doing it for the plot. Also,
I'm doing it for my guys. I don't want I
don't want to bet against my guys. I don't want
to catch that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:55):
That's fair. That's fair, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:19:57):
Thank you so much for spending your Saturday afternoon with us.
I'll see it next week, same time, same place,

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