The Fellas with Anthony Gargano & Jason Fitz discuss the Raiders Failure, Rivalry Week in College Football & MORE!

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need to give my main man, Fitzie a shoulder. So

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there are a few teams that you root for that
completely just give you misery. But you know we need
some of you out there know about it, like some
of you experienced it for a long time. I'm sure
before this run, if you were a Lions fan, it
wasn't too much fun that you had to deal with

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your share of misery. And my man fits he just
cruel and unusual punishment being a Raider fan. Pob brother,
I'm here for you.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
I appreciate this. You know I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
I was on my feet less than thirty seconds to
go in the game, I was on my feet and
I looked over my dog and I said, I don't
understand it. I understand that this team's only won two
football games. And if I even tweet about this right now,
if I X about this, whatever we're supposed to say,
people are gonna say, you shouldn't want to win, you
want better draft pick. But like, I can't watch the

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Raiders and want to watch them lose. So I'm standing
here and I'm thinking, man, we got them for the
second street year. We're gonna shock the world, and we're
gonna take down Kansas City. And then the Raiders become
the first team since at least two thousand to have
the ball inside makeable field goal range and turn the
football over and turn the football over in the weirdest
looking play. And I've watched the conspiracy theorists. I can't

(02:09):
say this loud enough. Like the refs didn't huddle up
and then decide Kansas City needed to win. The league
has made it very clear that the proper the proper
call was actually made the way it was supposed to
be done. Yes, it looks like the one is waving
his arms and signaling for false start. Another ref is
signaling a legal motion, but the whistle wasn't blown before

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the fumble was recovered. And even watching it live, I
was sitting there saying, man, I think this is gonna
be a turnover, and said, oh, it can't be end
what do you know it is?

Speaker 3 (02:39):
And the Raiders find the weirdest way.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
I'm telling you, brother, I don't know what deal the
Chiefs made with the devil, but it has worked. Congratulations,
Like they have found the weirdest ways to win week
in and week out, especially the last three four weeks.
It's just happening. Every single week. They are kissed by
the football gods. The Raiders are not kissed by the

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football gods. And just watching them go down in that game,
just man, I it just spoke to what this entire
season has been, which is just one weird heartbreak after another.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Yeah, I gotta tell you your spot on and everything
he said. And the Chiefs, I mean they look terrible.
I mean offensively, they look terrible. They you know, Mahomes
does not look right. I talked it up that having like,
you know, lack of weapons and cohesiveness with his receivers.

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But I don't know, guys are open, you know, what
it is. I do know actually what it is. It's
and it's not just Mahomes obviously. I mean, you can't
have your tackle, your left tackle constantly be a problem.

Speaker 5 (03:50):
You just can't have it.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
You can't have your tackles be issues. And that's the
that's that's it. I mean, how many times you're gonna
line up uh not on the line of script, which
because you're trying to cheat, Like seriously, I mean, how
many times you're gonna do that?

Speaker 5 (04:05):
It kills them.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
And you know, as much as like we and even
my instincts, oh, you know, you know Mahomes don't look right.
Their office don't look right. Yeah, because their tackle, their
tackle plays bad.

Speaker 5 (04:18):
You can't, you know what, you can't win.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
And that's what that's the only reason why he lost
that one super Bowl because he had no tackles.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
Well, and that's the first thing that I thought when
you start talking about that, is that, if we're being honest,
the one time we've seen Super Bowl, you know, a
regrettable super Bowl from Patrick Mahomes was when he was
just absolutely didn't have time to breathe back there, and
you know, look what we saw two and a half
sacks from Chase on last night yesterday for the Raiders,

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and they were all on basically the same move and
then you're right on the other side of the line
of scrimmage.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
They were, they were triple team in Max Crossman.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
He was still getting up his face, and the play
calling at times was just I mean, it was good
because guys were open, but at the same time, he's
just backed. If he tries to throw deep, he's gonna
get murdered, you know. So you just see him get
hit so many times and there's just nothing that they're
capable of doing right now of protecting him from.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
Having that happen. So it's jarring to see. Frankly, it is.

Speaker 4 (05:22):
It's jarring to see that that sort of punishment to Mahomes.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
And at least yesterday, I was pretty surprised.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
Honestly, you and I are both both very positive on
that defense and Spags and the job he does. In
the second half, the Raiders really had their way with
the Chiefs offensively, and it was stunning to me to
watch and say, Okay, this Raiders team, they were able
to find deep balls. The back of that defense is
gettable for the Chiefs, and the front of that defense
has to get home, and when that didn't happen yesterday,

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I was pretty amazed to see how efficient, how effective
brock Powers was in that game.

Speaker 5 (05:56):
He's a man. There's one thing that you could look
at this year and go, damn, it's Rock Bowers. It's
freaking best tight added football man.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
I love you George Kittle, love you Kelsey. The kitt
on the other side is the best tight ended football man.
He's ridiculous. His footwork's ridiculous. He was ridiculous that Georgie.
We knew he was gonna be great, but we didn't
know how it would manifest itself.

Speaker 5 (06:25):
But my god, he is everything.

Speaker 4 (06:28):
Somebody said to me yesterday after whe the catchers said
I thought Bowers was a tight end. The funny thing is,
like that was It's like, yes, that's exactly what makes
Bauers so special to watch right now is that, you know,
it's it's really as much as things have gone off
the rails and the raiders, aren't it good? Rock Bowers
is a foundational piece, right, Max Cosby is a foundational piece,

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and it is nice to look at it and say, hey,
you know what, last year with the thirteenth overall pick,
in the NFL Draft, knowing, as I've been told by
multiple people that the Raiders offered a king's ransom to
move up for Jaden Daniels in Washington said, No, it
looks like that was a pretty smart decision, knowing that
they weren't able to get the quarterback that they wanted,
and nobody saw the fact that Pennick Junior was going

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to go as early as he did, knowing that they
got sort of stuck in that position when you sit
at the board and you take the best player available.
A lot of people like to yell about that when
it happens, but then you see, oh my god, you
took the best player available. It turns out Brock Powers
was everything we thought Brock was going to be, especially
against a defense for the Chiefs that you know, has
the capability of taking them away.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
I think that's a special thing to watch.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
And if we're being honest for a second, I'll be
I'll be honest, Yesterday's lost and hit quite.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
As hard as it usually does.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
Because at the end of the year, what's the difference
between watching a two and fifteen team and a three
and fourteen team.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
You know, it's like, yeah, I mean.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
I knew if I tweeted anything people be like you
want to It was like, okay, thank you, I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
I just can't, man, I can't be that guy.

Speaker 4 (07:54):
I cannot turn on a game against the Chiefs and
be like, well, I hope we lose like that.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
Never like I want to see wins. Like life is
too short to sit here and worry about whether or
not the quarterback is going to be drafted.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
It's gonna be like what if I know, God forbid,
but what if I don't even need to watch it
next year? Like I want to be able to watch
my favorite football team win football games.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
I think that's pretty simple, dude.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
You know what's funny is this hole and I come
from the land of Tank, right, Yeah, the Sixers who
were the overt In fact, it came up again this
week and I'm a proponent of it, the sick as
it's sick as it is with Indeed, I want to
set into Germany to the Black Forest to heal up

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at the institute, to get his knee fixed once and
for all, and then deal with Spurs this year and
let Paul George go with him.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
Honestly, why not like to that point. If you can,
if you can tank, if you've got a superstar. Like
one of the things that really should have propelled the
Cincinnati Bengals to greatness was that after they knew they
had their quarterback, they were unlucky enough that their quarterback
was lost for the season and they ended up absolutely
being terrible, which got them the opportunity knowing they got

(09:16):
their quarterback and everything's gonna be fine. Then it got
them the opportunity to get Jamar Chase right. And and
so it wasn't like a oh man, we stink.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
It was oh man, we you know, we lost.

Speaker 4 (09:26):
A quarterback, and now let's just see what happens here,
right Like I just there is some element of if
you've got the stars and it's just not your year
and they're not aligning. I don't think it's the worst
thing at all to say, hey, we got health issues.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
We're just gonna we're gonna pack.

Speaker 4 (09:40):
It in, We're gonna wait see next year and congratulations,
we'll see you. On the flip side of ten wins,
who cares, you know, ten weeks in the NBA now
felt like I'm all in on that. That's and then
next year you get you get a wildly high pick
and then next year you come back and bring yourself.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Right, you have the top six protected first round pick.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
That's like that's gold in the modern NBA.

Speaker 5 (10:02):
That like, yeah, so it's top six protected.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
So the worst thing is if you're just kind of
bad to mediocre, you lose the pick. Right, So you know,
to maximize it, you got to be real bad. You
got to be terrible. So at some point you got
to make that decision, like, you know, do you shut
it down now? For you guys, when I think about

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football is different than basketball, right, you know, there's eighty
two games, and once you're buried, it's it's a little
easier because you know, unless you're at the game and
it's something special. But like yesterday, you can't sit there
and roof for the Raiders to lose.

Speaker 5 (10:49):
I mean, I couldn't do it. I couldn't do it
if it was the Eagles.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
And I know intellectually it benefits me to be to
have a higher pick, but damn man, it's the day
to thanks it's a standalone game, my squad, You're right there.
I don't want them to like, you can't root for
them to lose. It's too hard.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
No, I think all I can do is take comfort
when they too lose and say, okay, yes, you know,
look lost the game, but boy played the butts off
and better luck next year. We know the problems, like
everybody knows that this team, you know, and and look,
Aidan O'Connell was not the problem yesterday, by the way,
like two things can be true to two things can
be true. A O'Connell was not the problem. And also

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aid O'Connell is not going to be the answer next year.
So like like those those things can both at the
same time happen, you know. So I thought Aiden O'Connell
played pretty well, and you still walk away from it
and saying, hey, this is a this is a team
that absolutely.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
Lacks talent, And I don't have a problem.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
I know a lot of people freaked out this week,
but Antonio Pierce coming out and saying, let's just call
it like it is. It's the best team in football
versus the worst team in football. Like, I didn't have
a problem with that. I think one of the things
that he sort of plants his flag on is that
he's going to be, you know, honest, and he handles
things like a player, And that's I think that's a
fairly reasonable thing to say. But yesterday the worst team

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in football almost beat what you know, we consider that well.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
I also think it's a motivational thing, right, like sure,
you know it's you know, you call yourself the worst
team in football. Like, look at this they're saying, they're
calling is the worst team in football. Let's go out
man in front of the whole country on Black Friday,
and let's beat their ass.

Speaker 5 (12:29):
That's you know, that's the rallying cry.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
Yeah, And look, you're just not going to get to
your point of tanking. You're not going to get guys
like Max Scrosby to give less expert that effort. You're
not going to get guys to to play lesson And
I do think that it's a statement across the league.
How often do we see teams right now that are
I mean, the Giants have given up. The Giants have
clearly given up. Organizationally, they've given up. The players on

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the field have given up because the organization gave up.
There's there's reasonable reasons why they've given up. What you
saw yesterday was wildly a Raiders team that lost, but
hasn't given up.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
Like that. You know, I think there is something too.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
We always talk about the culture of losing, and I
think that's one of the hardest things about getting your
butts kicked in a season, is that how do you
prevent that from becoming the culture of who you are
moving forward? But at least for seeing a team that's
still putting up a fight, you know, it didn't bother
me as much like when your team wins ten eleven
games and they lose one. Boy, it hurts when your
team just you know, when your team's about to go

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two and fifteen, you get used to it.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
Yeah, No, I mean intellectually, it's like you said, like
you do you take solves in the end, you go off.

Speaker 5 (13:37):
That's what it best.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
As you're going through the game because you love your team,
it's antithetical to watch them and root against them, right like,
you know, unless like you hate the coach, right like
you hate like there's things that you know it's best
for your franchise just to get the guy out of there,

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like the handed Chip Kelly.

Speaker 5 (14:01):
It was like a horr right too.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
I can't take this guy anymore, man, I just can't
take his his game plans, his sideline, you know demeanor, right,
Like sometimes that drives a fan bananas. And so you
have these conflicting you know, it's it's a conflicting feeling

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because you go, oh my go, you can't stand the
quarterback with the Raiders. You like Antonio Pierce. Whether or
not you think he's that's commed a Madden's one thing,
but he's a really likable guy.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
And by the way, knowing that Tom Brady's watching everything,
like I'm still right now, if you ask me to
look at a crystal ball, I think Shandor Sanders is
a quarterback of the Raiders next year, and I.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
Think Mike Mike Rabel is the head coach.

Speaker 4 (14:51):
And I'm looking in the crystal ball of the relationships
with Tom Brady and then what Mark Davis has made
clear he wants. And so you know, if you're Antonio,
I do think you got to continue to have the
same swagger. You got to continue to be a consistent person,
but you also got to continue to show fight and
maybe you can convince everybody that's in that building that hey,

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this season went off the rails, but injuries really did
decimated team that lacked depth.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
We knew the roster was.

Speaker 4 (15:17):
Going to take some time, and we know we don't
have a quarterback, so like maybe that's the sales pitch
for Antonio Pierce. But man, he's got to keep coaching
for his job because I don't know that you could
really say, like if this team truly ends as I
think they will on a fifteen game losing streak, I
don't know. With Brady in the building now, if you
can keep you can keep Brady from coming in and saying, hey,

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I got this buddy named Frabel. It's had good success
that I think should be the head coaching right now.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
And here's the thing. It's a shame because it's his
first rodeo. Yep, and you know you're coming, you're young,
you're coming really from the playing field almost and you know,
I think you gets an the shot down the road.
Like he's got to put his time back in because

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you know, you have a you know, preside over a
really good defense and you and then you get your
and then you get your next gig where you you
understand what you did wrong.

Speaker 5 (16:15):
The first time.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
That's why these owners are fools. Sometimes they're wealthy men
who just can't see it. They can't get out of
their own ego because they all want to discover the
next great coach. But in reality, you're always better off
going to get a really smart guy who failed the
first time, because you those guys.

Speaker 5 (16:39):
Now understand what they did wrong.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
When you're a first time head coach, when especially when
you're young, very rarely does it payoff.

Speaker 5 (16:50):
It's you have to go through a lot of lumps.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Like you know, for every you know Shanahan McVeigh. You know,
there's the Brandon Stanley's in the world, there's Eberflus, right,
there's those guys that just didn't have it first time around.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
Yeah, And that's such an important because everybody wants to change,
whether it's a quarterback or head coach. Everybody wants to change.
Now at GM, everybody wants to change constantly. And I'm
with you that I understand. I'm with everybody I should
say in the Cincinnati understand that what we want how
to change so often is hope. But you're one thousand
percent right that so often when we look at which

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coach is considered to be the great hire, it doesn't
work out to be that way. And if you ever
want an exercise and absolute futility. Go back and read
the ESPN dot com rankings that they've done for years
after the coaching hiring cycle is done, where they rank
which coaches were the best and which coaches were the
worst hires.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
And it is laughable.

Speaker 4 (17:51):
It is laughable how often they get that the worst
ranked coach ends up being the best and the best
ranked coach ends up being worst.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
It happens all the time. So we just don't know
on these, you know.

Speaker 4 (18:02):
And every time somebody comes in and says, well, this
one's a sure thing, it'say, is it?

Speaker 3 (18:06):
So you know, I'm I'm with you.

Speaker 4 (18:08):
I think honestly, organizations take time and patience to come together.
And if you really want to change the Lions, you
got to get lucky with the home run pick of
a coach that people thought wasn't qualified and shouldn't have
been hired yet. And then they had to be patient
with him because he started one and six the second
season before things started to turn around, right, And so

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you know, it's just just a reminder that you don't
microwave culture change.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
It's just it takes longer.

Speaker 5 (18:35):
Yeah, that's a great point, it really is. It's a
great point. You can't. You can't nuke it. Give me
a young coach.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
That came in bright, young coach that had success right away.
I mean, I'm thinking as it is. You know, there's
only one guy that is a true there are two
guys that are true success stores even I mean, and
Shannon you gonna take it with a grain of salt because
of his father, right, you know. And Shannon, you know,

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didn't win it. I mean, obviously he's a terrific coach,
but he grew up in the game. I think he's
almost an anomaly. But Andy Reid and McVeigh.

Speaker 4 (19:16):
Do we do we go Mike McDaniel did did he
have enough success to be considered successful?

Speaker 3 (19:21):
I say, no, yeah, I think.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
I mean not to say he's a failure, right, you know,
But I can't go. Hey, owners, look at Mike McDaniel.
You would have got it right, like you know, No,
I can't. I can't do that. Let's let's take a
put a pin in it, right, and well, let's think
about it, because it's an interesting exercise into you know

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what where the candidates. You know pretty soon that Black
Monday is going to be here. Black Friday begets Black
Monday in the NFL. Where all the coaches get hacked,
Where the fellas and ebra Flus was there yesterday? There
was a Black Monday for him? Uh Where the Fellas?
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Speaker 2 (20:23):
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Thanksgiving Thanksgiving weekend Folk Bloom Michigan, Ohio State.

Speaker 5 (20:34):
How state gets paid back today? Baby?

Speaker 2 (20:37):
So they're twenty point favorite? Oh my god, Hey, let
me let's go through this conversation. I love the idea
of coaches, and we saw ibra Flus get it yesterday
after the whole world watched the whole world watching the

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fleet blunder that was Thanksgiving Day. I mean, you got
the Mighty Lions on the ropes and you just flob it.
You don't call time out, you let your team down,
and it's just been a rough ride for them, and
then you make that kind of blunder and the whole

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world watches it and says, how's this guy have a job? Well,
the next day he don't.

Speaker 4 (21:26):
The only thing that really surprised me is why the
Bears let him get up in front of the podium
before they let him go to you know, like that's
just it made him sort of stand up there and
take his lumps from the press about the call, and
then you fired him, Like I thought that was interesting.
Should have just fired him right after.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
But I'm not surprised at all he's gone.

Speaker 4 (21:42):
I just think I will loudly scream from the mountaintops
again that this is the incompetence you have to avoid
when it comes to organizationally what your plan is, because
the minute they kept eber Flu to lame duck coach
with a young quarterback.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
I've been screaming.

Speaker 4 (21:57):
About this for months like this was the inevitability, and
Bears fans told me I'd lost my mind. When I'm
sitting there saying I don't understand why you would do this,
and then it looks so bad in the beginning. I'm
just sitting there saying I don't understand why you're not
giving a better offensive coordinator. Fire everybody and make sure
that Caleb's being developed well. And it's like, no, they're
gonna be fine, and what do you know, They're not fine?
Like this, this feels like the plot to Halloween eighteen,

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like we know what's coming, we know exactly how it's
gonna happen, and we're not gonna enjoy watching.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
It by the end of the thing. Like it's just
this was predictable.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
So if you just joined this we were discussing, when
you're thinking about coaches and you're thinking about who to hire,
it could coming up shortly the uh you know, as
you see the playoff push and then the teams that
are gonna be looking for a new direction and where

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they go. And it's really our contention that the one
time guy, the guy that went through, he might have
failed at different degrees whatever you want to call it.
But if you find the really smart guy that's working
on a second gig, he usually has an understanding of

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what happened and.

Speaker 5 (23:10):
What he wants to do.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
He's he matures a little bit, he understands the league
a little bit. He likely has success as a coordinator,
and then he knows kind of how to fix an
organization because you got to go through it once before
you can gain that kind of knowledge. Now, Andy Reid
was I thought an anomaly. You know, he came from

(23:35):
the whole Mike Homern tree, which was Walsh and you
know the legendary thing about the coaches, and so he replicated,
he's a brilliant guy. And so he was one guy
that worked out. He was one genius. And Jeffrey Lourie
said that we got this guy. He's really really smart,

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he's really reorganized. And it turned out he was right McVeigh,
all right, Shanahan, who who else?

Speaker 3 (24:06):
It took a few years.

Speaker 4 (24:07):
It took a few years for Gruden to be I mean,
Gruden was a young higher and then he was suddenly brilliant.
Put I think we need to remember that there was
a period where there was speculation early in Gruden's career
until they beat the Chiefs at the on the last
game of the season. People were sitting there wondering if
Gruden was going to survive that that Al Davis at
that time.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
So you know, I think it took a couple of
years for everything to click.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
With It is interesting he came from that same tree
of Andy and with handy of home run he was
there too. But like I'm trying to think about, Like,
look at the recent hires, right, you know, Dable is
under fire with the Giants who saw him on Thanksgiving.

Speaker 5 (24:48):
Day, and you know, not for notphing, but they're a
mess now.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
I think part of it is the GM but in
the personnel apartment. But I'll be honest with you, I'm
disimported if Watson Dable. There's things that I question, like,
how could you go two weeks ago?

Speaker 5 (25:09):
How do you let mylak neighbors not get a target?

Speaker 7 (25:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (25:13):
First thing, and then.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
I say this gently, but where are you culturally in
the locker room that you can have that sort of
a blow up from the leak so so loudly, like
it just it feels like that's such a difficult thing
to put back in the bottle. Oh yeah, you know
when that happens, it feels like it's just such a Yeah.

Speaker 5 (25:33):
When he comes out and rips you. You know you're
the head coach.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
I mean that's you know, you can't have your players
you surping, you sturping authority. I'm sorry, Like you're still
the coach. It's not going to work out. It can't
work out unless the players respect the coach. The whole
thing can't work.

Speaker 4 (25:52):
Yeah, and it just screams to I know I say
this too much, but like what wouldn't happen to a
Belichick team doesn't happen to them, you know. Uh, go
across the board and look at the really successful, Like
we don't even when targets don't go the way that
receivers want. We rarely hear somebody coming out speaking out
on Tomlin, speaking out on Andy Reid, like they're just

(26:12):
it just speaks to whatever you feel like, Man, this guy,
this guy ain't even gonna be around. Like what have
we seen from the Cowboys where it's like, you know,
it's easy to sit there and talk about the future
coach because you realize that the coach probably isn't even
gonna be there.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
You realize that everything's a massive flux. Like it's just
it's it's a tough that's a tough.

Speaker 5 (26:30):
Look, it's so stable. Uh, let's look at it.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Let's look at the first timers around, you know, I
mean we saw Brandon Staley the Chargers. Look at the
difference now with Harball. I mean, you know, look at
you know, Sean Payton's a great coach, but he and
he goes to Denver, and look what he's doing in Denver, right, Like, yep, completely,
you're kind of rebuilding that thing. I just think those

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guys have a lot of those guys that have been
around a little bit understand what it takes to put
to kind of get a front office, you know, get
get an organization on the rights path.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
Well.

Speaker 4 (27:16):
And I remember all the way back when I was
working ind ESPN at one point and saw Jack del
Rio a lot on campus, and I talked to him
one day about the difference the second time around, and
Jack was pretty open about the fact that he said,
you know, the second time around, you figure out what
actually matters and what you need to delegate. And he said,
you know what makes so many guys a better coach
the second time around is when you walk in the building.

(27:38):
He said, the first time I walked in, I thought
I had to control everything, and I thought, you know,
all of this has to be reflective of me, and
this is how we create culture and all of these things.
And he said, by the second time, you realize, Okay, no,
I'm not gonna worry about this, but I am going
to worry more about that, and that he felt made
him a better coach the second time around, and he
was a better coach the second time around for him. So,

(27:58):
you know, I think there is some truth to that,
and it's that's applicable to anything. I don't care if
you're listening right now, and you know you sell cars.
The first time you got a job somewhere selling cars,
you probably didn't know as much as you do the
second or third time.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
You're doing it right.

Speaker 4 (28:11):
And you know, when you start to think about results
oriented businesses, sometimes you don't get to stick around long
enough to actually see the fruits of your labor and
become something where you are.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
And that's just the way life goes.

Speaker 4 (28:22):
So I do think that there's sort of a commonality,
common theme for everybody and in life that the more
you do something, the more opportunities you get at, the
more places you do it, the more you learn about
the right way to do it. It's just we just
don't want to hear that with our favorite football team.
And frankly, when you see Retreader sitting there like right now,
everybody's going to be obsessed over Ben Johnson and Bobby
Slowly as the next head coaching cycle, like that's everybody

(28:44):
wants the offensive coordinator from the Lives or the offensive
coordinator from the Texas that have been hot candidates for
the last couple of years.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
But you know, and I'm sure they're going to be
great coaches.

Speaker 4 (28:52):
It's just it takes time, and so you better hope
whatever organization hires them hires them with the real six
year plan of like, hey, this could take five or
six years for this person to actually become Dan Campbell
with the Lions. It could take that long before we
actually have that identity and.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
That some guys though, need to go and then need
to fail and before they come back, you know, so
you better be careful going with those guys. Like I'll
be honest with you, I love Ben Johnson's offense, but
I don't know that he can coach. I don't know
if he's head coach.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
There's a lot of different skill set.

Speaker 4 (29:27):
It's a total of versus being a head coach of
a totally different jobs.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
And sometimes there's a reason why the defensive guys are better.

Speaker 5 (29:36):
I mean, look around the league.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
Defensive guys, special teams guys. Sometimes those guys are better
choices as head coaches, Like I know the problem with
the hiring the defensive guy is like, if you get
to bring a good OC in, he's going to get
a head job and he's going to leave and you
got to replace. And so that's why I think most

(29:59):
of these are owners really want the young offensive guy.
But those offensive guys are they you know, sometimes they
don't profile as head coaches.

Speaker 5 (30:09):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
I mean, you know, we're seeing it with Dable, you
see all around, you know, with the with some of
the younger dudes, the younger offensive guys.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (30:19):
Man, special teams coaches so often are good head coaches
because when you run special teams, you have to be
involved with the entire team, you know, players every side
of the ball, Like you know how to talk to players,
Like I think that's the one part.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
Players like.

Speaker 4 (30:36):
Having the ability to relate to players and make them
feel like you're invested in them in human beings like
those are things that great offensive minds may not necessarily
be great at, Like there are some people and Dominique
Fox Sports said years ago they need to do a
scouting combat combine for coordinators that want to become head coaches,
so you can test them on their ability to understand,
you know, clock management and test them on their ability

(30:56):
to understand, you know, how to handle different situations in
different read the room situations because it is so wildly different.
And just because you're a savant that can sit there
and absolutely game plan anything, doesn't mean that you're really
gonna know how to read the room and figure out
what your room.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
You're a leader of that you're a leader of men.
I mean, let's face it, it comes back down to that.
You got to be a leader. You have to get
guys to go to play for you.

Speaker 5 (31:25):
You've got to reach them.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
So, yes, you need to be competent, and your game
plans on both sides of the ball need to be good,
and quality players need to believe in them. But yeah,
you got to read those players, got to you gotta
respect them as man and get them to play for you.

Speaker 5 (31:44):
Man, you got to reach them. That's real.

Speaker 4 (31:49):
Yeah, I mean, that's there's just an element of I
think one of the craziest things in life. Again, no
matter what situation you're in is if you are capable
of walking into a room, reading the room, and understanding
how to be the best version of yourself in any room,
you will go farther in life.

Speaker 3 (32:08):
Ninety nine percent of the time.

Speaker 4 (32:10):
Like, you know, my buddy at touring used to always say,
you're rarely hired and fired for the ninety minute show
you played. You're hired and fired for the other twenty
two and a half hours of the day. What kind
of hanger you can people stand being around you on
a tour bus to people want to be around you
on stage like there's just something too, you know. And
maybe because I moved around so much as a kid,
I've always really had to focus on this. Maybe because

(32:30):
of my life and music, I've always had to focus
on this.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
But if you could walk in the room and.

Speaker 4 (32:33):
Figure out how to bring your energy in a way
that makes the whole room feel better, no matter what
room you're in, and you can figure out how to
read the room to figure out like what what people
want and need from you from an energy standpoint, man,
you will you will ascend in whatever you do, because
that's more important than especially today's society, even more important

(32:54):
than your skill set. Ninety nine percent of the time
is do people want to gravitate towards you? Do people
want to be or around you? And then you can
figure out the skill set. While you're buying yourself tied
by being a competent hang. If you're not a good hang,
you're not going to get any of that.

Speaker 5 (33:07):
Dude, that's true. Bad you know.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Let me give you some props, brother, because you are.
You're a good hang. You're a good energy man. Brother,
you spot on you know.

Speaker 4 (33:18):
I just it's funny how people will give you. Once
you at benefit of the doubt, You'll get patients. You
screw something up at work, but everybody likes you. Boy patience.
You screw something up at work and you're a jerk.
Everybody's just waiting. The wolves are waiting to attack.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
You know.

Speaker 4 (33:32):
And that's just benefit of the doubt is everything, And
especially for these head coaches like I think that's why
more former players are being hired as coaches across all
the college football NFL. It's why more staffs are being
built with former players all over the place, because you're
looking for guys that understand just sort of how to
read the room and not all of not every coach
that walks in is capable of just getting everybody to

(33:53):
believe in them.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
From that from the outset.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
With your brother with you, I would say, quick T,
I will come back rejoined the conversation fellas hanging out
right here on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 6 (34:05):

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Live Fellas Jason Fitz, Anthony Argano. I hope everybody had
a great, blessed Thanksgiving. What'd you do with FITZI.

Speaker 4 (34:28):
Fox Food Sportsbook went out there and went to the casino.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
You know, made it rain a little bit.

Speaker 5 (34:34):
You know, it nice, hey that the.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
Casino watched football.

Speaker 4 (34:38):
The Draftking sports Book at Foxwoods is actually really beautiful.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
Love it up there, so hung out. How was the
family for you?

Speaker 5 (34:45):
It was good. We got rained out.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
We usually played turkey ball and it poured, so we
got rained out of our turkey ball. But we we Uh,
it was funny.

Speaker 5 (34:58):
I was just telling him, Bree, you know.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
As I have two boys, and then uh my my
sister has a boy senior in high school minor freshman
in high school in sixth grade. And then we have
our nieces. So my cousin's over and you know, we
we we have all the families and it was great.

Speaker 5 (35:19):
It was It was a fun day. But we were
putting the boys through the.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
Feats of strength because because we didn't play football, so
we had to rough out somehow. So we started with
an arm wrestling contest and then uh and then my, my, my,
Anthony's frequentusly strong, so you know he he's going after me,
and you know, then then we have a we put

(35:45):
a mat a blanket down as a matt and we're
doing Oklahoma drills and sumo wrestling and the uh. And
then we're then and then it was my cousin ties
the uh. My two kids go at each other all
the time, so to make it fair, my cousin, Joey

(36:07):
Grad takes his belt off, he ties my oldest hands
behind his back and he's like, all right, now, you
guys can go at it. Anthony could just shoulder beat him,
you know, be trying to rough them up with his shoulder.
So they're going at it until my little one hits
the big one in the jewels and and uh. And
then we had a call, got all the two out

(36:29):
of hands, and we're going, young dude, you can't do that.
You can't hit somebody in the jewels, and he goes,
why not, that's their weakness.

Speaker 5 (36:38):
I was like, no, man, you're right, but no gun
man can't do that.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
See that's I love.

Speaker 4 (36:45):
Look, my my older brother and I had a pretty
violent relationship.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
When we fought a lot. But I remember in fifth grade,
like fifth grade.

Speaker 4 (36:53):
You know fifth graders are like kid choulenged me to
a fight in fifth grade. Now again, I was a
fact kid that played the violin, so I don't like
people out of gave me a lot of chance there.
But my brother was always particularly tough. He was he
was not a fat kid that played the violin. So
I walked out into the playground in fifth grade and
I walked up and like, he put his hands up,
we were gonna fight, and I punched him in the face,

(37:14):
broke his nose. He started bleeding everywhere, and he was like,
why'd you punch me in the face. And I'm like
that's how I grew up. Like my brother and I
were like, well we fought, we fought. So I look,
I looked the way I looked at it, like you
got life skills right there. And you know, look in
the family. You don't go for the jewels outside the family. Man,
if somebody wants to step like there's never a chance

(37:35):
that there's never a spot where like your jewels are
safe and.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
For fighting, like if we are.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
Actually, even in my twenties and thirties when I got
a little bit too rambunctious in the bar, I'm the yes,
one hundred percent come at me, and the first thing
I'm going for you ar no no places like it's
just that I'm here to win the fight, not win integrity.

Speaker 5 (37:52):
Let's get yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
Yeah, yeah, exactly no, it was, uh, it's exactly it.
With the two of my two guys, oh my god,
they fight constantly.

Speaker 5 (38:04):
And my big one now is a monster.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
He's he's you know, he's squatting almost four hundred pounds
and yeah, he's a freshman high school. So I got
you know, I got him unleashed. And my little one
is still not you know, he's you know, he's sixth grade.
He's going to puberty, and he's on the young side
of the sixth grade. So there's a click, the difference
in the strength and you and the little one.

Speaker 5 (38:29):
Is competitive, really competitive.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
So you know, but it was fun and my old
my nephew Joseph, and they're all fighting. They like all
loved stuff, and you know, we have the arm wrestling
thing was funny. We put over the top the stallone
arm wrestler movie.

Speaker 4 (38:45):
All yeah, there is there the worst movie ever approached
for you guys, Like I mean with the Italian culture,
like are you eating something other than turkey and potatoes?

Speaker 3 (38:56):
Like what was the pasta dish?

Speaker 5 (38:58):
Because they got the lasagna day the lasagna.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Yeah, we had, you know, just turkey and then all
the normal stuff and then the lasagnya and you know
they do the charcoodierie tray, you know, make charcutery thing
before she makes it. My system makes a cheese steak bread,
so which is good.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
I see, I do.

Speaker 4 (39:21):
There'd be some sort of like Philly Italian angle with
the with the Gargado house, like I love that.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
Yeah, you'll yo, yeah, it's it's that's that's good, all.

Speaker 5 (39:30):
Right with the fellas. We'll come back in just a moment.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
Sports.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Well, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning, buddy.
Well the happy, happy happy happy Fox football Saturday. That's right,
Thanksgiving weekend, the dish and I can't believe it. The
end of the college season upon us. Although we get

(39:59):
to look forward to a really interesting playoffs. That's for sure,
lots to get to help. Everybody had a wonderful Thanksgiving weekend.
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FITZI last yesterday, bizarre football man. The Georgia was horrible
for three and a half quarters. They couldn't do anything

(40:38):
for three and a half quarters and then something just
clicked and a boobo go down the field, tie the
gabe right like.

Speaker 5 (40:47):
It was just the craziest, weirdest gamee.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
We thought Georgia Tech would be a tough hang for them,
and they were, but I wasn't expecting no points at halftime,
six after three, and then they explode for twenty one
and then there was that eight session over time that
was just ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (41:11):
First time in five years Georgia has been held scoreless
in the first half of a football game. And you know,
really a key fumble late for Georgia Tech. That was
just a great Like so I've seen and this is
this is the problem. I'm gonna get on my soapbox
again this moek, because I watched every second of that game.
So forgive me for soapboxing this morning. But you know,
little less sleep as me in my fields. I guess

(41:32):
the fact that immediately Twitter x goes to there's a
conspiracy to save Georgia and the refs didn't want Georgia
Tech to win. There were some hard calls in that game. Certainly,
there were some moments that I but I'm watching replays
of it and I can't tell if the ball's out
on a fumble going towards the goal line. I couldn't
tell if one ball was tipped and it was called
pass interference, couldn't be if it was tipped. And there's

(41:54):
some saying, well, it was targeting that knocked the football out.

Speaker 3 (41:57):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (41:58):
Like what I do know is that frankly, as the
game went down, both of these teams were warned down.
And look, man, I'm the one guy in the world
that doesn't like the college football overtime. I just don't
like it. This game was decided kind of like penalty
kicks in a soccer match. This game was decided by
a slew of two point plays and there's only so
like you could feel it late by the time I
got to the fourth overtime. And kudos to Kirby Smart.

(42:21):
He was calling time out every single overtime when Georgia
Tech was in motion about to slap the snap the ball,
and it was his way of getting a cheap look
at the play, which makes sense.

Speaker 3 (42:30):
It was really smart.

Speaker 4 (42:32):
But it just felt like both teams had run through
all of their two point plays by the time that
we got to the fourth overtime. You know, like it
just there was nothing left for these teams. They had
nothing in the tank and I didn't love the way
that felt the end, But a kudos to Georgia for
finding a way to win.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
I also, I'm gonna.

Speaker 4 (42:50):
Lone person on dying on this hill this morning, But
like Joe Tess and Jesse Palmer, who did a great
job on the broadcast, I love both of those human beings.
I just really disagree with they kept saying this is
for a guaranteed bid to the.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
College Football Playoff. How do we know? I know that
we believe that.

Speaker 4 (43:08):
The committee will not penalize whoever loses the SEC Championship game.
But if Texas A and M that's currently ranked twentieth
wins against Texas today, they will go to the SEC
Championship game if they beat Georgia by thirty points by
some miracle in the SEC Championship game. Is a three
loss Georgia team that absolutely gets boat raced in the
SEC Championship guaranteed a college football playoff spot.

Speaker 3 (43:31):
I don't think so. I think they should.

Speaker 4 (43:32):
I don't think you should be penalized for losing your
conference championship game. I think they should go, but we
have no idea. So it really bothered me that over
and over and over again. I mean it must have
been a hundred times out of the course of the
late portion of that game, Joe teskept saying, this is
for a guaranteed spot in the college football playoff and
I'm like, no, the only guaranteed spot is if you
win your conference. Everything else, like, the committee's got to

(43:55):
make that decision. So I'm glad George won. But now
I'm just kind of like the lover of chaos and
he just wants to see Georgia get killed in the
SEC Championship game just to test.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
I just want to see what happened.

Speaker 5 (44:08):
Yea, Yeah, you know it's weird how the whole thing
works in that sense, like.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
You, because I'm with you, Uh, I think it's a
way for them to sell a self.

Speaker 5 (44:19):
A game, I mean the game.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
You know you had, no you It's a good, easy
comedian way to sell it, right.

Speaker 3 (44:28):
Yeah, you're right. He's making it feel dramatic.

Speaker 5 (44:31):
Yeah, yeah, I mean that's that's weird for But to
your point, Uh, you know, the whole thing is nuts.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
It's cool, it's crazy, uh, especially when you have such
parody going on. I mean, you know, me, Georgia, they
don't have anybody down the field. I mean, and and
they got man handled up front for three quarters.

Speaker 5 (44:56):
They basically got mad. Like.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
The thing that's shocking to me is that Georgia Tech
got they got dogs. Man, they held up in the trenches.
That's what surprised me. And although I kind of thoughts
I thought that would be the case after watching both teams,
but normally where Georgie's main advantage is that it's the trenches,

(45:21):
but not yesterday, not this iteration of either team.

Speaker 4 (45:25):
Yeah, and you know that's the other thing that's really shot.
And kudos to Georgia Tech for this. But man, when
we thought Florida State was gonna be good, Georgia Tech
beat him.

Speaker 3 (45:34):
Turns out Florida State's not good. Fun.

Speaker 4 (45:36):
Then Georgia Tech went in an absolutely just mind never
let the ball again out of their hands against Miami
and then they Georgia down to the wire. Like I know,
Georgia Tech is not a great football team, but man,
they get up.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
They're the exposure I vict, they are the exposers of
of of frauds almost I don't know, not calling Georgia fraud,
but they're they're certainly not. I mean, they're they're they're
completely We thought they might they were rebeatable, right like.

Speaker 5 (46:09):
They've had these weird spells.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
I just think it goes down to they don't have
down the field threats like you we told about brock
Bowers earlier. They missed brock Bowers, they missed McConkey.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
Yeah, no, you're you're you're right about that.

Speaker 4 (46:25):
And and Brent Key, the head coach of Georgia Tech,
who also went to Georgia Tech.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
And this is more and more. Look at some of
the guys that are having success right.

Speaker 4 (46:33):
Now, like Brent Key at Georgia Tech Dillingham over at
Arizona State. Like, if you can find somebody that went
to your school that loves your school, you can find
somebody that grew up around your school and then they
become the head coach of your school.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
Oh, it just hits different. And he had those guys
fired up.

Speaker 4 (46:50):
He had him ready and has been as has been
pointed out several times. Their offensive coordinators on the staff
for Georgia for several years and as a quality control coach,
had a really good game plan for attacking Kirby Smart's defense.
But you're right, there is a there are fatal flaws
to Georgia and they can't catch the ball. The number
of drops like they have three drops in the end

(47:12):
zone by one player, Like you have three drops in
the end zone by one player. The sad part of
that is you kept going to them three times, right,
Like that's just tells you that you're out of options.
You know, I don't trust Georgia right now. They're gonna
I believe they will go to the college football playoffs.
I do believe that when they get there. I do
not trust them to be the best version of themselves,

(47:33):
which is sort of The thing that we talk about
every Saturday that becomes more and more crystal clear to
me is that there are.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
So many teams right now that if the best version.

Speaker 4 (47:42):
Of that team, the best game that we've seen from
them all year, is bottled up and goes in the playoffs,
they could win a bunch of playoff games.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
But I don't trust most teams in other than Oregon.

Speaker 4 (47:50):
I'm not sure I trust anybody to consistently bring the
best version of themselves.

Speaker 3 (47:55):
Maybe Ohio State.

Speaker 5 (47:56):
At this point.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
Yeah, yeah, I know, dude, I feel the safe way
you two. I look at it and go, No, who
do you trust in this thing? I mean, that's very real.
I mean, let's go throw it right like, I'll give
you let's kind of you know. One exercise we should
do is actually rank the teams in order, because it's bizarre,

(48:22):
like like, let's talk about it. So Oregon, Ohio State
put them aside because you figure that it's a legit, right, Yeah,
I mean, is Penn State really the fourth best team
in the country.

Speaker 4 (48:41):
The hardest part about this for Penn State, for me
is that Penn State has looked really good a few times,
but when they actually took on a valuable opponent. That
offense that has been incredible didn't look incredible.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
I can't get that out of my brain. I can't
get that out of my brain.

Speaker 4 (48:58):
That, like, you know, we expected an explosive, multi level
offense from Penn State and we've seen it when they
take on bad teams, and when they took on Ohio
State they were stymied.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
And that that's just real.

Speaker 4 (49:10):
And so how do we not have that sort of
in our brains when it comes to this, You know,
I just Penn State's a good football team.

Speaker 3 (49:17):
Is Penn State the fourth best football team in the
country to me? Like? They don't.

Speaker 4 (49:21):
It doesn't have the same cachet to me. Usually when
if you say, oh, this team's number four, I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah, No,
I see that completely.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
I don't know. Penn State and Texas are both kind
of like when they.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
Were was about to bring Texas up, right, Like I
kind of flopped them, but I was gonna bring Tech
because Texas is a little more legitimate than Penn State, right,
like Penn State to Texas a little bit more legitimate.
But to your point, all right, like let's go through it.
You lost to Georgia at home and we remember that game?

Speaker 5 (49:52):
Yeah, what's that? What's that game look like? Now?

Speaker 2 (49:55):
You beat Vanity by three, You blew off Florida, which
is impressive, especially to see in Florida back to back
weeks against lsum old Miss you squeak by Arkansas and
then you beat Kentucky. Uh you know, I mean I
don't know. Well, I figured we're gonna find out for

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once or for all. We'll find out about Texas tonight.
Like you got to go to kylein station play a
bitter rival. You know, under the lights, you'll find out
all you need to know about them.

Speaker 4 (50:29):
Yeah, one hundred percent, and you're finding out all you
need to know though, against the Texas A and N
team that at their best, boy, that defensive line is disruptive,
and you know, the quarterback looks like he can do
absolutely anything at their worst. I just I don't understand them.
You know, the SEC this year. As much as the
SEC is yelling about the possibility that they're gonna have

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a bunch of teams left out of this thing, I
just man, I sit here and say, well, has the
SEC really been consistent enough to deserve sort of the
greatness that usually we associate.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
With the SEC. I don't think so.

Speaker 4 (51:05):
You know, it's it's pretty it's pretty clear at this
point you could say the SEC has beat up on
each other because of the depth of the conference.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
That's fine.

Speaker 4 (51:14):
This isn't about the wins and losses to me, this
is about teams that flat out haven't looked good at times.
And let's face, let's be real for a second, Quinn
you were since he came back from his injury, has
not been Yeah, same Quinn ewers. And you know Texas
as a team, boy, on paper, they can beat anybody anywhere,
but they also can beat themselves. It's a little reminiscent

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of like when Tennessee is at their best. Tennessee certainly
looks like a playoff team, and then all of a sudden,
you'll see Tennessee team that turns the ball over recklessly,
commits too many penalties, Like it's just the worst pops
out a lot for these SEC teams.

Speaker 5 (51:48):
Yeah, it's true, all right.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
At five, I think we both agree. Notre Dame obviously legit.
Now we know about the schedule, and you know, which
is something historically Notre Dame didn't have to worry about
because they always played tough schedules.

Speaker 5 (52:03):
Well, we'll find a little bit about them. Again.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
You can't have a slip up against Southern Cal right now.
I think they're legitimate at five.

Speaker 3 (52:13):
Yeah, I think so too.

Speaker 4 (52:14):
And they're also Look, all they've done is kill bad teams,
So I get that, but I do think that there's
a little level of Again, just look at the way
they're doing it and what do we trust and when
we get into the playoffs. Part of the reason that
I trust it's funny Marcus Freeman can't coach against bad football.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
Teams, but he's good against good ones.

Speaker 4 (52:34):
You know, we know he's going to find a way
to lose a game that they shouldn't lose. They have
the most inexcusable loss in all of college football this year,
and that is that's It's just a fact. But Riley
Leonard has really in the last couple of months has
come on. The defense has played well, even though they've
lost key players to injury. I'm impressed with where Notre
Dame is this year. Like I, frankly you if you

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had told me in the college football playoffs this week
that Notre Dame had moved up to four, that wouldn't
have hurt my feelings. I think they've they are there
in that conversation.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
To me, I agree, And of course, you know with
the caveat is USC, so you can't you can't have
any slip ups either way.

Speaker 4 (53:12):
But I think they're gonna I think they're just gonna
throttle USC when they throttle us. And I'll go back
to my buddy Michael Junior. I was talking to him
the other day and he said the one thing that
a lot of people just forget for Notre Dame. He said,
the year that they played for a national championship, and
they knew they were gonna play for a national championship.

Speaker 3 (53:30):
At that point, he.

Speaker 4 (53:31):
Looked at his dad before he went out on the
field against USC, and he said, as much as everyone's
obsessed with the national championship game, this game means more.
And I just think we have to remember that if
you grew up in the Notre Dame lexicon, this game
like this for Notre Dame, for the players, for the
way they're gonna have everybody hyped up, like I think

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they're gonna come out and try and make a point,
and when they do, we need to have a really
realistic conversation next week about how bad this season went
for USC and won an epic fail of a job
Lincoln Riley to.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
This year, dude, I'm shocked and I would not have
bet that he would have failed.

Speaker 4 (54:10):
Yeah, I look, I didn't know that USC was going
to be great. But this is not about being great.
This is about flat out failing as a program. Like
they have been non competitive in a bunch of games
that they shouldn't have been. It's just there's this thing
to sit here and look at it and say, you know,
they struggled to beat UCLA, and UCLA stinks. I get that.

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They they lost over to Washington. Washington again not good.
Maryland not good like. I can forgive a loss to
Penn State, but I can't forgive a lost to Minnesota
not good like. It's just uscam where they are. It's
they're in the Big ten and we spent all summer
hearing about the fourteen hundred pounds of cumulative weight they

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put on and now they're barely pole eligible.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
Good god.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
Yeah, now, well said. And then you know, I mean
Miami during the number sixteen in the country.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
I come on, man, And by the way, you've been
right on this one for a long time.

Speaker 4 (55:10):
My friend, like, let's just let's plan at the Gargatto
flag and it's up there, and it's got the Cane's
logo with the with the a little slash going through it.
No out of Miami's defense being able to stop anybody, Like,
there's just a.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
Part of it again. I love chaos, you know, I
love chaos. Everybody's trying to tell me that.

Speaker 4 (55:29):
You know, we could have this situation where three teams
from the ACC make it depending on what happens with
Clemson in South Carolina today, do we end up Miami, Clemson,
and SMU all find their way into the college football playoff.
That's everybody's having that conversation. I really I believe SMU
is gonna win, SMU is gonna take down Miami. And
when Miami gets beat in the ACC Championship game, I

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hope the committee has a real conversation about how bad
that defense.

Speaker 3 (55:54):
Is because it just doesn't. They don't look like a
playoff team to.

Speaker 5 (55:56):
Me, No, not at all.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
Now I'm curious today Chris my Boy, Kyle McCord and
Syracuse can't move the ball man and he can move
the ball big time.

Speaker 5 (56:11):
Through the air.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
So I'm curious to see Miami's like eleven point favorite
in a game. I'm curious to see what McCord does
against them.

Speaker 3 (56:22):
Oh man, if he takes them down.

Speaker 4 (56:24):
Like seriously, if if McCord beats Miami, that is such
a that that is this season in college football. Like
everything's right there for Miami and then they find a
way to like that that's right there for him. I,
by the way, I want that. I want Syracuse to
get that big win because that'd be a big resume
win for them. And if we're starting to talk about resumes,

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let's remember Syracuse is one of the two teams.

Speaker 3 (56:47):
This year that beat UNLV.

Speaker 4 (56:49):
We'll get to why that is significant as we go
through these rankings.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
Yeah, now, actually that's that's that's so true. And then
I don't know, I'm I mean, I look at it
and I'm just curious to see.

Speaker 5 (57:03):
You know, kind of where your head's at.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
But when you're going through these hole these rankings, it's bizarre.
We talked about number seven Georgia and where they're at.

Speaker 5 (57:16):
It's like you look.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
At these teams and other than one, two and five
with Notre Dame, you go all right, you feel pretty confident,
but leading up to that, you're like, I mean, you know,
Texas like where you at With Tennessee.

Speaker 4 (57:35):
Nicolava is like up and down like he should be
as a young quarterback. But man, he's had some real
bone headed moments. Tennessee commits too many penalties. They get
in their own way. I think Tennessee has the talent
to win the national championship. I don't think Tennessee this
year has the discipline to win the national championship. That
defense early in the season was flying, you know, I
was in love with them. That defense now is good,

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not great. That offense is at times just sort of
disappears and loses its identity. I'm disappointed. I thought Tennessee
would be, you know, at this point of this would
be a top five team, and I realized eight v.
Five isn't that different. But it is like Tennessee's kind
of clinging to dear life. And you know, look, I
think they're gonna beat Vandy today, and I think they'll

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beat Vandy pretty convincingly. They need to beat Vandy pretty convincingly,
because again, that's a bandy team that we've seen pull
off some big upsets this year. Andy's having a much
better season than anyone expected. Tennessee needs to be on
alert for that one.

Speaker 3 (58:34):
I don't if.

Speaker 4 (58:35):
Tennessee Obviously, if they lose that game, they're out of
this thing completely, So they need to be on alert.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
Yeah, I'm with you, Robert, I am. I'm with you,
all right? Will think quick T will come back? Or
keep going through the college football and games? Today?

Speaker 5 (58:52):
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Speaker 5 (01:00:15):
So you got it all hooked up?

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
Uh yeah, like all of a sudden boom Thanksgiving into Christmas.
Christ Christmas and Thanksgiving kind of blended together this show.

Speaker 4 (01:00:27):
That's what happens when it comes as late, right, Like, yeah,
we were blinking and it's December first, right. That's just
a weird part of the timing of Thanksgiving. It's interesting too,
because November sort of flies by it when you work
in the business that you and I work in, so god,
no remember, no matter what, it's just sort of you're blinking.

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
It's over.

Speaker 4 (01:00:44):
So it is crazy to think we just got through
Thanksgiving and now it's like all right, well, well you.

Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
Better have a head start on your Christmas shopping. By
the way, let me just tell you. I know we
got football to get to, but I love black Friday.
You know I love black Black Friday. I've told you
that before. But yes man, I got out. I got
out yesterday when I'm out of my people, went into
the West Farms Mall and in West Artford, Connecticut.

Speaker 4 (01:01:04):
It's beautiful, Like it's like one of those old school
eight type It's like what malls used to be. And
I'm I'm a believer that in cold weather cities malls
still thrive because frankly, in the middle of winter, when
it's freezing and you got nothing to new, you just
go to the mall, ding around, you know, window shop.
Whatever I went yesterday, vibes were electric, all right, Like
I walk in and I was in peace.

Speaker 5 (01:01:25):
I was.

Speaker 4 (01:01:27):
Yeah, yeah, see like because you know, it used to
be twenty five years ago you could only get this
TV this one day, and so the mobs were out
of control and everybody's like tackling each other. Now, I mean,
the deals were great.

Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
Like I'm sure everybody seemed to be having a good time.

Speaker 4 (01:01:43):
But yeah, I walked in, I ordered I used the
app to order my Starbucks from the mall. Starbucks inside
the Macy's. Weirdly, I don't know why it's in there,
but they built it in there. So I build it
and I walk up and the guys like, yeah, the
wait time on our drinks right now for the mobile
orders is anywhere from forty five minutes to an hour,
And you know what, I was like.

Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
That's good. So like, yeah, that's how busy it was
in the mall.

Speaker 4 (01:02:04):
So I put my hour for coffee, an hour for Starbucks,
maybe an hour at West Farms. So but I didn't
sit there and wait the hour. I put the order
in and I started my shopping. I went to store
to store. I just looked around and dinged around and
found some deals, you know, got there was some stuff
on sale that I liked, and I just was amongst
the people with.

Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
The Christmas music playing. Put my pods in so I
was listening to my own Christmas music.

Speaker 4 (01:02:26):
At one point, just felt the electric vibes of people everywhere.

Speaker 3 (01:02:32):
Oh man, everybody was like polite and everybody was.

Speaker 5 (01:02:34):
Like yeah, it was just stream.

Speaker 4 (01:02:36):
I mean it was it was so busy that no
exactly like all I don't even know what Hollister, why
people wanted to go into the store Hollister, but the
store Hollister had stanchions up to hold people in line,
and then they had an employee outside because they were
at capacity inside, so somebody had to come out before
they would let another person in.

Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
That's how busy the mall it was. It was it
was doing the thing, and I loved it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:59):
I was there for hours, for hours before the Raiders game,
just walking around, enjoyed.

Speaker 3 (01:03:04):
Finally got my coffee and then I so I spent
the first hour walking the second floor of the mall,
then went back, picked up my coffee, went down to
the first floor of the ma all. This is the light. God,
Black Friday is the best.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
Ah, that's awesome. That sounds like it sounds like it does.
Sound good. I'm not the biggest shopper, but like you're right,
like I do you do. There's something about the energy
and when you're at a mall and it's cold weather city,
because there's so many people, and you know, you start
to get into the you start to get into the spirit.

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And those malls had a weird kind of smell to them, right,
like not the food court part of it, and they're
kind of I like it, Like I like the vibe
I had to smell. It just feels I don't know,
it does feel like the holidays.

Speaker 5 (01:03:59):
I feel you on it. I did.

Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
I worked in the South.

Speaker 4 (01:04:02):
In the South, everything's like outdoor moles, you know, like yeah,
walking here, but up here, like it's nice to go
to be like there's some Macy's and Norsey Yeah, and
he's like, I like, give me all the like department stores.

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
Yeah, it's some perfume, cologne cat everybody there's always because
that's a popular gift.

Speaker 4 (01:04:21):
And then you know, Macy's had all the employees like
in bright Red, like it was because the Starbucks is
an actual real Starbucks built inside the macy So everybody
hanging around. But like all the Macy's employees were like
so everybody was like smiling and having a great day.
Like yeah, they were like would you like to sayd
But like I felt like elf, I just wanted to
spray in my mouth and be like I wanted to
do it, but I didn't, you know, it just it was.

Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
It was.

Speaker 4 (01:04:45):
And I did a little work, you know, and then
came back and watched the Raiders loose. And then after
I watched the Raiders loose, went back out amongst the
masses because it was.

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
Just a fun energy.

Speaker 5 (01:04:53):
Why you went? Did it double out?

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
I did it double?

Speaker 4 (01:04:56):
I did a double Even at eight pm last night,
it was still like I went out right before the
Georgia Georgia Tech game started, so like whatever, seven o'clock, it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
Was still it was still a zoo. It was still
did you go?

Speaker 5 (01:05:08):
Where you watch the game is sports bar near the
ball near the mall.

Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
No I live. I live like five minutes from the mall.

Speaker 4 (01:05:14):
So I just came back and watched it, watched a
little the game while I grabbed a little dinner, and then.

Speaker 3 (01:05:18):
Watched the rest at home. It's just five minutes trive
five minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
Wow, you just you wanted to go? You went to
go and bibe twice?

Speaker 3 (01:05:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:05:27):
Yeah, yeah, I wanted to, like the Christmas vibe, give
it to me, give it injected in my veins twice,
and why have it once?

Speaker 3 (01:05:33):
If I can have it twice, let's go.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
Wow, dude, that's impressive that you did that. Like I
tell you, I that's cool.

Speaker 5 (01:05:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
The spirit is yeah, larger in charge here, brother, large
and in charge.

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
Yeah, we did. I liked it the same way you
like the mall. I like the city right, because like
there's a mate. She's in center city Philadelphia, like downtown there,
uh near the City Hall is of Macy's and I
love it.

Speaker 5 (01:06:05):
They and it's it's.

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
Kind of shame because you know, these big cities are
still reeling from COVID.

Speaker 5 (01:06:15):
COVID man was nasty.

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
It just had a bad effect on cities across America.

Speaker 5 (01:06:22):
And you're still digging out.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
I'm hoping it's like, you know, trending in the right direction,
but you could still see the remnants of it. Like
I still say there was there was always a vibe,
a great vibe like Black Friday. And my office is
not far from there, where my studio is, and so
I was there and I love like what it's kind

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of cold and in the holidays and walking around the city,
there's always like an electric vibe and it's still lacking.
I think what was at the mall was not at
in the city where I was. Yes today, yeah, like
you know what I mean, Like you traveled extensively, like
you know, all about like those cities, especially around the holidays.

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Like my fondest memories of my hometown of Philadelphia is
in the holidays, all dressed up in lights and you know,
everybody's got the coats on, but you're walking hustle bustle, smiling,
going to the department stores and restaurants, and I don't know,
I always I remember that as a kid, and it just

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had a it's it had a profound the fact impact
on me, and I love it. And the freaking COVID
was the worst thing for the for the cities, really
really bad.

Speaker 4 (01:07:45):
Well, then everybody got used to like online shopping too
in that process, So once you.

Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
Got used to that, it's hard to bring that back.

Speaker 4 (01:07:52):
I enjoy, you know, actually seeing something in person, Like
I'm the sort of person that like, I was bummed.
I went out on Niksiving Day and tried to get
the newspaper because usually the Black Friday ads are all
in the newspaper. Nobody in Connecticut even sells the newspaper anymore,
Like you can't find couldn't find it a newspaper in
the one place I didn't find it didn't have any
of the ads I enjoy on thanks to me usually

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going through the ads and be like, Okay, I'm gonna
go look for this. I'm gonna go to this place,
this place, like so I was sort of flying blind yesterday.
But I think what's interesting to me is that I'm
the type of person that I don't set out with.

Speaker 3 (01:08:24):
A I'm gonna get Gargano something.

Speaker 4 (01:08:26):
I'm the type of person that is like, I'm just
gonna go out and if I see something for a
friend or family member that I think would make a
great present, I'm gonna get that for him.

Speaker 3 (01:08:34):
And if I don't, I'm not like, I.

Speaker 4 (01:08:35):
Don't think there has to be some big, like great
rule that you know, we exchange presents. But if I
see something that makes me think of you, I'm gonna
get it. That's the way I like to shop for
these things, so I don't have as much.

Speaker 5 (01:08:46):
By the way, that's the security of true giving.

Speaker 3 (01:08:50):
Well, it's like I'm just I've never been.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
You're not giving for the sake of just going by
the routine. You go, ah that this reminds me of
somebody there forum were to get it for him, Like
that's beautiful.

Speaker 3 (01:09:03):
It's it's thanks And like, I think there's an element.

Speaker 4 (01:09:07):
For me that because that's how I thrive shopping that's
not gonna happen from just doom scrolling on like Instagram
ads work for me. Like we all say we hate technology,
but like targeted ads on Instagram, if I see something,
I'm like, oh my god, that's a that's a hoodie
that you can get somebody's dog printed on. I know
who would like that. I'm gonna order that for them.
That's sort of become that version. But I I've always

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been the type of Christmas time that I'm I'm gonna
go into every single store and I'm just gonna browse
and I'm gonna look around and if I see I'm like,
oh my god, I know somebody that's a big Charlie
Brown fan and this is something they would love, then
I'll get it. But that's you know, it means there's
no stress when I'm shopping too on Black Friday, because
I'm not out trying to get you know, this thing's
on a huge lightning deal only for these three hours.
I'm just out like, oh, that's a bargain. And I

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know this person likes Martini's and this is a cool
Martini set, so I'm gonna get it for him.

Speaker 3 (01:09:56):
Like that's kind of how that's you know, how my
day went.

Speaker 5 (01:09:59):
Wow, it's funny. It's a cool Martini set. Yeah, look
at that. That's nice. I like it. Yeah, we uh
it's funny.

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
I haven't been shopping forever because you know, you know
how it is, like you always you go with a plant.
So my me and my my wife, she handles all
that stuff. So the only thing I'll go to, the
only place I go is Dick Sporting Goods. That's such
a cliche, but I do love. Like there's a mall

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near where I live and it's got the big Dick
Sporting Goods.

Speaker 5 (01:10:36):
I love it.

Speaker 7 (01:10:37):
I do.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
I freaking love that store. That to me is like
the candy store when you were a kid. Like if
I if we had that store growing up, Oh my god,
And you remember those promotions where you get a cart
and you can feel as much as you want in
the cart.

Speaker 5 (01:10:54):
I still have that dream.

Speaker 2 (01:10:56):
Oh, this would be the greatest thing in the world
to go around the store where go around Dick Sporting
Goods with a with an empty cart being allowed to
fill it.

Speaker 4 (01:11:05):
That's that's I'm just supermarket sweep, but in a Dick
Sporting Goods is that's the best and worst idea all
at one time.

Speaker 3 (01:11:13):
Like just cramming it all in there. Let's go.

Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
All right, well, call take quick t come right back
and back to the uh the rackets. We're going through
college football rakings today. Kind of look at where all
the teams are at on this rivalry Saturday, Michigan Ohio State.
And you know it's such a mismatch. There's no you know,
there's a countdown. There's no countdown. It's basically countdown to

(01:11:42):
annihilation because I think Ohio State's going to just open
a can.

Speaker 5 (01:11:48):
What do you think?

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
It's not the game today. It's a game. It's just
a game. That's how this one. Yeah, this one, it's
gonna be an absolute slaughter.

Speaker 5 (01:11:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
I know usually when we say that it's close, but no,
I don't think so of this one. We're the fellas
hanging out right here on this Thanksgiving weekend.

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I wanted just to play a little extra longer because
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right there. So I wanted people to enjoy it, to

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hear it and let it breathe because it's it's beautiful.

Speaker 5 (01:12:51):
Brother.

Speaker 3 (01:12:52):
Oh thanks, man, I appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (01:12:53):
It was fun to uh, just fun to post a
little holiday cheer feeling a feel like yesterday Black Friday
was a good time, just some Christmas cheer. So put
up a little Christmas Carol, just to pop the violin
up and put a little video up so you can
check it out at Jason Fitts on social media.

Speaker 3 (01:13:08):
It's out there.

Speaker 5 (01:13:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
I mean, you're just God bless you man. You're very
amazingly talented, just beautiful. I mean I'm just yeah, you know.
Part of it was I wanted to let it play
and not.

Speaker 5 (01:13:20):
Talk over it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:21):
And the other part of it is I just kind
of started listening to it, just kind of got lost
in it. So I'll be honest with you, I was like,
that's just freaking beautiful, man.

Speaker 5 (01:13:32):
I mean, God bless you.

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
If I ever get to make my film, I need
you to do the to be in.

Speaker 5 (01:13:39):
The score for sure. I would love that you are. Yeah,
you're just God bless it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
So let's look at today my man Chuck, I love
our excuse me, my man Eddie Eddie Webster.

Speaker 5 (01:13:57):
We got my man Chuck too. He's all about Kentucky today.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
Man Andie Webster had a good point about Ohio State
and Michigan and he said, listen, Michigan d line is
still formidable.

Speaker 5 (01:14:10):
He said, it's going to be.

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
Cold right there, and uh in Columbus, you know, and uh,
you know it's going to be cold, and it's going
to be uh you know, defensive.

Speaker 5 (01:14:23):
Could that keep Michigan in the game.

Speaker 3 (01:14:26):
Nope, but it sure is a great thought.

Speaker 4 (01:14:29):
Now, the problem is Michigan just doesn't have as good
as their defense defensive line is, and I don't think
their defensive line is. Uh, it's fair to say that
it's a good defensive line. You gotta be great to
take down this Ohio State team, and you also got
to be able to score. And this Michigan offense is
not going to be able to score. So this, this game,

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to me, starts slow and then all of a sudden,
you know, it starts for a minute. They're hitting each
other back and forth, and we're getting the usual broadcast
of throwing the records out, which is really just a
broadcast team way of saying, don't stop watching. We really
want you to watch this game. And so like it'll
be seven nothing for too long, and like thirteen nothing
for a while, and then all of a sudden we'll

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blink and it'll be like thirty one to three.

Speaker 5 (01:15:12):
Yeah, I kind of the same vibe.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
I do too, because ultimately I think early on they
could stand up.

Speaker 5 (01:15:20):
But to your point, I don't think the Ohio State.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
I don't think the Michigan offense can generate enough pressure.

Speaker 5 (01:15:28):
And it's sooner or later you know.

Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
That the Michigan d's gonna be on the field and
on the field and on the field and then it
just breaks open.

Speaker 4 (01:15:35):
Yeah, you're a thousand or sent right to me, this
game is just I've got Ohio State and the points.
So I think it's a big, big, big win for
a hostate. Can I tell you what, Like I do
have a little bit of a joy coming into today
for a matchup nobody's paying attention to, but you should
only because if UNLV wins tonight, they will play for
the Mountain West title next weekend against Boise State. I'm

(01:15:58):
just saying you. UNLV right now controls their own destiny
to the College Football Playoff because Tulane lost over the weekend,
so tu Lane lost two days ago, so by two
Lane losing. Remember, the five highest ranked conference champions go
to the College football playoff right now, Boise State is
clearly one of the five highest ranked as we continue

(01:16:20):
to look at this, but Boise State UNLV played a
hell of a game earlier this year. The UNLV will
get the matchup, We'll get the rematch. If UNLV wins
last week, they were number twenty two in the rankings,
they'll move up a little bit because Tulane lost, they
would be the highest ranked group of five champion like.

Speaker 3 (01:16:36):
UNLV can still get to the College four.

Speaker 4 (01:16:38):
Imagine UNLV playing the playoff game at Allegiance Stadium before
the Raiders ever do.

Speaker 3 (01:16:43):
That's just that, that's my reality.

Speaker 5 (01:16:46):
Yeah, man, I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
I gotta tell you. Uh, you know, it's funny. They're
a great story man, eight just are It's beautiful.

Speaker 7 (01:16:59):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:17:00):
I'm rooting for you too because that it's your squad.

Speaker 4 (01:17:03):
Well, and the fun part about it is this is
I say this because this is what I do enjoy
about the playoff process as much as I yell about
who's in and who's out every single week. The fact
that we're still sitting here saying, well, the Mountain West
championship game is gonna matter, and we don't know how
the rest of the conference championships are gonna play out.
Like there's the Mountain West champion could end up being
the fourth highest ranked conference champion. You have no idea,

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So you know, if that happens, you could be talking
about a home game and a bye Like that's wild
to think of for a team like Boise State, or
you know, usually a team like Too Lane and that
we thought would be there this year. It's it brings
meaning to games that otherwise we just wouldn't be paying
attention to nationally.

Speaker 7 (01:17:42):
I know, man.

Speaker 5 (01:17:43):
I meanwhile, Boise how about gant Man? My god, he
goes for two.

Speaker 2 (01:17:50):
Hundred like like Barkley saw Barkley does.

Speaker 5 (01:17:55):
It's just effortless. It's ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (01:17:58):
Yeah, it's it's true incredible to see how not like
he can beat you with power, he can beat you
with grace, Like he can beat you any which way
that you want to be beaten. Like it's it's really incredible,
and you know, I feel for the kid because I
do think he's had a Heisman worthy year. I personally,
if I had a vote, I would give it to

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Hunter instead. But what Ashton Genty has done has been
really incredible and special this year.

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
Yeah, yeah, I hear you. I mean Hunter, I mean
Hunt for your dollars playing on both sides. It's just Genty.

Speaker 5 (01:18:32):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
It's funny because all of a sudden, does Genty? Does
the running back make a comeback in the draft? I
want to play a ponder that would you because I
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just talking about we'll go continue to go through the
college games today and the whole thing. We were talking
about running backs because A genty and Boise State and yesterday.

Speaker 5 (01:19:46):
We do you have two twelve or more than that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:49):
To sixty five? He was crazy. I looked early. I
was watching the game and I looked earlier. I was
checking his numbers, and he was like one nine through three.
He's uh, he's He's unbelievable. He finishes with two twenty six.
So does the running back make a comeback in the draft?

(01:20:15):
You know, we know about the running backs being devalued.
Nobody devalued the running back more than the Cowboys, and
they picked the worst year to go into the season
with no running back. And as you see Detroit, Montgomery, Gibbs, Philadelphia, Barkley, Baltimore, King,

(01:20:37):
Henry the Chiefs, right, you know, Pachecko, Kareem Hunt comes back.
The value of cook in Buffalo, right, The value of
the running backs so.

Speaker 5 (01:20:52):
Vital to teams successes.

Speaker 2 (01:20:54):
Just look at the top of the at the division,
top of the conferences, wherever you go. They have running backs.
They matter. Do they finally come back in the draft fit.

Speaker 3 (01:21:06):
Si, I think so, I think to a certain extent
for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:21:09):
I mean, Gent is a clear cut like he's gonna
be a first round pick and everybody's gonna mock him,
like every single mock draft is gonna put genty to
the Cowboys, right, Like that is what makes sense. But
there are other prospects that are top fifty sixty draft prospects.

Speaker 3 (01:21:24):
Which means top two rounds.

Speaker 4 (01:21:26):
Really, you know the kid out of North Carolina, Hampton Judkins,
Ohio State. We'll see what happens with Henderson, also from
Ohio State. But there are some prospects out there that
are worth it. And to your point, and I'm just
gonna keep screaming this loudly, over and over and over again.

Speaker 3 (01:21:41):
Tell me the.

Speaker 4 (01:21:42):
Last team that their season went off the rails because
they paid a running back.

Speaker 3 (01:21:46):
Like everybody sits here and says, don't pay a running back.

Speaker 4 (01:21:49):
Okay, I think what we need to start looking at
is cost above replacement. Right, So instead of sitting here saying, well,
I'm not going to pay that running back twelve million dollars,
I guess my thing is like, were you willing to
pay him nine? So if you're willing to pay him nine,
but you're not willing to pay him twelve. Then you're
willing to let three million dollars be the reason that
your team struggles at a position that frankly, when you

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have a great running back, it even masks your offensive
line issues. So you're willing to let three million dollars
be a deal breaker there. I think that logic is
about to change. Like James Connor is going to be
a free agent at the end of the season. I'd
be stunned if Arizona doesn't look around and say, well,
you know what, the Titans weren't better without Derek Henry,
the Raiders weren't better without Josh Jacobs, the Giants weren't

(01:22:31):
better without Saquon So I think there.

Speaker 3 (01:22:33):
Is some element.

Speaker 4 (01:22:33):
And then in the draft, yeah, I mean, look, the
day that Jamir Gibbs was drafted. I was hosting a
draft show for ESPN the day he was drafted. Everybody
was just crushing that pick. You can't spend a first round,
high first round pick on a running back.

Speaker 3 (01:22:48):
What are you doing?

Speaker 4 (01:22:49):
And now all of a sudden, you look at the Lions,
You're like, man, not only that they bring in Montgomery
and Gibbs. They have two running backs, one that they
valued in the draft or one that they decided to
value through free agent. They bring in two different people
and they're they're they're great at the position for a reason.
I just think you have to look across the board
and say, you know what, you don't think you need
a running back until you don't have one, and then

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when you don't have one, you realize suddenly how incompetent
your offense looks when you try to get rhythm the
running back position. I think he's going to have a
change in the way we view big name running backs
over the course of the next several years, and I
think you're gonna see more teams taking a stab at
it in the draft.

Speaker 2 (01:23:25):
You know what's crazy is you look at like, you know,
Philoffy week, we're obsessed with Saquon because sae Quon's come
in and really, you know, I don't want to say
saved the season, but he's just made such a huge difference.
I mean, he's made them into complete Super Bowl contender. Obviously,
he's been unbelievable. He's ranked one hundred and eighty fourth

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in salary in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (01:23:53):
Colley that's that's right, it is.

Speaker 4 (01:24:00):
It's it's insane to think about how many players, like
right now, if you play wide receiver, like we always
make the joke, if you've ever even like Ben and
Sean mcfay's house, you're gonna get a head coaching job
somewhere right now. You could be a bad wide receiver
and you're gonna get paid more than an epic running back.

Speaker 3 (01:24:18):
I don't understand that.

Speaker 4 (01:24:19):
I don't understand that lot, Like, it's not fantasy football,
it's real football. I don't understand it at all.

Speaker 3 (01:24:23):
Dude.

Speaker 2 (01:24:24):
You know, it's amazing how that kind of transpired. And
you know, one of the other position making callback, my man,
Nicky brings us up.

Speaker 5 (01:24:33):
Nicky said dominic.

Speaker 2 (01:24:34):
He says, I know inside linebackers are coming back, and
he's right, the linebacker, And it just goes to show
you because running back and linebacker are mirrored positions. So
if one comes back, the other has to come back.
And really the offense always dictates, right, So if the
running back comes back, what's that mean? It means all

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of a sudden, you can't be light and be playing
in nickel constantly, right, You've got to have lie inside
linebackers and you and you got to have a safety.

Speaker 5 (01:25:05):
You could play the box.

Speaker 4 (01:25:06):
Yeah, isn't that the This is the old like point
counterpoint point counterboy, Like offenses are gonna spread out, and
so somebody in the league figures out that, hey, we're
gonna do the opposite of that, because we're just not
built the spread out. We're gonna hammer the ball right
up the middle, and we're just gonna run the ball
down your throats. And then a copycat legal look at
it and say, hey, that seems to be working.

Speaker 3 (01:25:25):
Everybody will start running the ball more like.

Speaker 4 (01:25:26):
This is that weird cycle that I'm convinced the NFL
in some wayss like the economy. It's like it's just
it's cycles. It goes this way, then this way, then
this way, then this way. And so to your point, yeah,
one hundred percent. If you see the resurgence of running backs,
now you're gonna have to have a resurgence of how
do you stop these running backs? And you know, just
like we've seen two high safeties and everybody wants to

(01:25:47):
talk about, you know, depth of coverage and all of
these things. Well, at some point, if you figure out
how to run on all these defenses.

Speaker 3 (01:25:53):
These defense is going to have to adjust, which will
then create the counter adjustment and going back to throw
the ball a bunch. That's what I love. Like the
match of all of this is what I love.

Speaker 2 (01:26:02):
Yeah, I know, I know, it's one of my favorite things.
I remember talking to Bags years ago. He foresaw it coming.
We were we It was like an off season, and
he comes back to my area in the off season.
So we're just grabbing a beer and we're just talking

(01:26:22):
about the league itself, and he's like, you know, I
just don't understand why teams. Everybody's is light, everybody's light
and fast. He's like, I don't know why teams don't
go bring back a full back, big running backs and
just pound it because you're you're gonna have such an

(01:26:44):
advantage doing that. And Lowell behold, actually it finally took form.

Speaker 3 (01:26:50):
Isn't that the smart thing to do?

Speaker 4 (01:26:51):
I mean, at somebody you look around and say, okay,
especially if you don't have the quarterback that you can trust, man,
heck of a lot easier.

Speaker 3 (01:27:00):
You know, we're gonna bring in this running back.

Speaker 4 (01:27:02):
Like I'm waiting for Ashton Genty to join the Cowboys
and the Cowboys, by the way, have some serious issues.

Speaker 3 (01:27:08):
On the offensive line. Like I'm saying this right now,
I'll say it loudly.

Speaker 4 (01:27:11):
When we get into the draft, if the Cowboys pass
on everything in the entire draft but only take offensive
lineman with every single pick, I still.

Speaker 3 (01:27:18):
Support that, like, you gotta get that offensive line fix.

Speaker 4 (01:27:21):
But once Ashton Genty is part of the Cowboys organization
and then all of a sudden, this offense looks dynamic again, We're.

Speaker 3 (01:27:28):
Gonna sit here and be like, huh, what do we know?

Speaker 4 (01:27:31):
Like maybe maybe everything wasn't broken, maybe they don't suck
like you just you can't be completely one dimensional in
the modern league and succeed a week in a week out.
So it's amazing how teams seem to lose that focus
when they forget about one position.

Speaker 2 (01:27:45):
I know it's it's and now that it's back, you
start to wonder, like why did it go away?

Speaker 5 (01:27:56):
Like why did it go Like I get.

Speaker 2 (01:27:57):
Everybody pass past pass fast passed, and the short pass
game is the extension of the run game, and you
know what it is. But you know, watching Man and
watching great backs, watching Henry and on the East Coast
and watching Barkley and watching those dudes. I mean, at
some point last Sunday night, the Rams defense just wilted,

(01:28:23):
you know, I mean, it's Barkley, It's more home runs
than I were judge.

Speaker 4 (01:28:31):
And there's this element of just I don't know, to me,
limiting possessions, which is essentially what you're doing if you're
controlling the clock, like we talked about Georgia Tech and
up until overtime, sort of how the way that game
was working for him. One thing that you can look
across the board bad teams are capable of doing is
limited on my Google is talking to me apparently. But

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one thing bad teams can do is who knew they
can limit possessions? Like if you can get to the
point where we see this all the time, where how
is that game close for the first half?

Speaker 3 (01:29:01):
Well, each team only had the ball three times? How
do you do that?

Speaker 4 (01:29:05):
You run the football effectively, You run the football and
you just pound your way down A thirteen fourteen to
fifteen play drive is monotonous TV for so many people.
To me, that's the way a bad team team stays
competitive with the good one. So I think, you know,
we lose sight of that sometimes because we get so
infatuated with fantasy football, with gambling numbers, and frankly with
video game football. But if you can slow it down

(01:29:27):
and you can make sure that the other team's not
on the field. Yeah, you can't turn the ball over
a lot when you're built that way, and you can't
commit a lot of penalties and survive it when you're
built that way. But if you play clean, efficient football
and you can run the football, you can win a
lot of games you shouldn't.

Speaker 5 (01:29:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:29:41):
Yeah, yeah, Well, and especially with you know, the one
change has to come. And like we kind of talked
about the flip side, which is the sturdy linebackers, right.

Speaker 5 (01:29:52):
Like you you know, everybody was so light. Ends were
so light.

Speaker 2 (01:29:57):
Linebackers were really like strong safeties, you know, guys going
into two twelve, two fifteen. It's it's it's interesting how
it has as an effect on all that. And now
those guys, those light backers, you can't hold up. You

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got Henry and you got a line of behemoths coming
at you.

Speaker 5 (01:30:22):
You're two hund twelve pounds, you can't hold up anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:30:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:30:26):
I also think it's it's kind of incredible. Just a
reminder go back and watch old football games from the
eighties early nineties, see how top heavy everybody was. Like,
it's funny that you just look at the way the
game was built versus the way the game is built now.
Like part of the devaluing of running backs has come
down to the fact that the entire game has approached
differently in the way people training is so different.

Speaker 3 (01:30:47):
In all of these things.

Speaker 4 (01:30:47):
But yeah, I'm I'm looking squarely at Phillies defense particularly
and Phillies offense, and I'm saying, in a copycat league,
how many teams are gonna look around and say, Okay,
wait a minute.

Speaker 3 (01:30:58):
If you have.

Speaker 4 (01:30:59):
Bruisers at all three levels, they can actually they can
fly to the ball and hit, and you have an
offense that can control the line of scrimmage with the
just an offensive line that's dominant, then all of everything
else that you do looks so much better. Everything else
that you do look so much cleaner. Like there's a
reason that whether we're talking about Jalen or whether we're
talking about Saquan or whether we're talking about aj Brown,

(01:31:20):
they all look like superstars because they're allowed to look
like superstars because the team's built the right way. It's
just it's it's amazing how we're obsessed with one position,
and really the best way to have a great team
is to be really good up the bottom.

Speaker 2 (01:31:33):
Well, really good on the front, right, like yeah, you know,
you know it's it's it's such the cliche, and we
comes up in conversation often and you know, we say
the same thing.

Speaker 5 (01:31:43):
But it's just so true.

Speaker 2 (01:31:45):
Like the Chiefs are not the Chiefs because of the
tackle situation.

Speaker 5 (01:31:50):
But you can't have your tackle line up consistently.

Speaker 2 (01:31:54):
I mean, everybody's talking about on the broadcast how he's
cheating and he gets snagged every time, Like, dude, you're
watching you.

Speaker 5 (01:32:03):
So you can't line up off the line of scrimmage.
You got to be on the line of scrimmage. Like
how after while annoying me, I'd have to bring him out.

Speaker 4 (01:32:12):
Well, and you win a bunch of games by winning
the line of scrimmage on both sides. And frankly, right now,
what's amazing is the Chiefs are winning the line of
scrimmage on the defensive side of the ball more often
than not, but they can't win it on the offensive
side of the ball.

Speaker 3 (01:32:25):
But they have Superman.

Speaker 4 (01:32:26):
So the logic is as long as we have Superman
will be okay. I just most teams aren't gonna have Superman.
So if you don't have Superman, even if you just
have pretty good man, Like, if you're a pretty good man,
you better have five in front of him that can
make him function to the best of his capabilities. The
Chiefs are lucky that they have Superman, and that masks that.

Speaker 3 (01:32:43):
But man, I just I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:32:46):
I think the fact is it's easier to find offense
as tough as it is to find offensive linemen. It's
easier to find five offensive linemen than it is to
find the greatest quarterback of all time.

Speaker 3 (01:32:56):
And I think that's what we're seeing right now.

Speaker 2 (01:32:58):
Yeah, no, I mean you know, and again it's playing
out right, it's playing out Buffalo.

Speaker 5 (01:33:06):
What's in common?

Speaker 2 (01:33:07):
Yeah, great quarterback, but you know, great line Baltimore, right,
great quarterback, great line Detroit. Look at that line that
the Lions have, dead line sick, right, I mean that
dead Lions line is.

Speaker 5 (01:33:25):
Is really really good. Man, They're just they're terrific and
it fill up is the same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:33:31):
I mean, look at the I mean that line is
is ridiculous, like adding Beckton. So I know, a little
bit about that about how they're trying to build that thing.
They were looking to draft an alignment they were they
were looking at to come away with with their first
two picks. Coming away with a corner an alignment. Now

(01:33:53):
it just goes to show you just so happened that
both the cornerback the guys they loved, Mitchell and Gene
are we're both there. So the day after the draft
they went and signed Beckton from the Jets and thinking,
you know what, we could play him inside. It could

(01:34:14):
be a swing tackle, but he could also play guard,
And turned out he worked perfectly at guard.

Speaker 4 (01:34:21):
I mean that's sometimes better to be lucky than good
with that. And but also think about what you just said.
As much as you have a plan when you go
into the draft, at some point you got to look
at it and say, Okay, there are players we love here,
and we're going to take the best player that fits,
like the best player available versus need. I think it's
the best player available that fits the need.

Speaker 3 (01:34:41):
That makes sense.

Speaker 4 (01:34:42):
Like I don't think if you have my homes you
just go best player available if that's a quarterback, right,
like for the Eagles and for quality football teams, how
often do we look back at the draft a couple
of years later and say, man, boy, they made that
look easy.

Speaker 3 (01:34:54):
Why because they're just.

Speaker 4 (01:34:55):
Taking It's like, oh, clearly, like we talked earlier about
brock Bauers, I will never question that draft pick, no
matter what else happened in the in the process of
that draft, because frankly, the best player on the on
the board at that point, clearly not even close on
almost every draft board was brought powers And sometimes you
just sit back there and you're like, you know what,
if we want to consistently become the Eagles, you take

(01:35:17):
the best player on the board. And there's context sometimes
to why you don't. But let's be real, there's context
that needs to happen around some of the conversations like
Jalen Carter and things like that. Content there's context around it.
But my god, like you have to look at it
and say, hey, there is logic too, this best player
on the board, and we're going to figure out how
to get the best players and bring the best players
in and get the best out of them that we
could possibly get. It's over simplification, but where teams go

(01:35:40):
wrong when they're drafting all the time is well, we
really need a wide receiver, and we're just gonna take
this wide receiver because he's the best of a bad lot.

Speaker 3 (01:35:48):
You know, even look at the Bills you mentioned earlier.

Speaker 4 (01:35:51):
Yes, they went in and got a wide receiver, but
they understood that, like we can take any of these guys,
so they traded down.

Speaker 3 (01:35:56):
They got more equity in the process. Some of that
stuff is just smart. Forget that.

Speaker 2 (01:36:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and it is. It's exactly right,
It's exactly right. And again, you know, just to bring
back up that game yesterday, and you know, at some point,
if you're the Raiders and your and your plan works,
and you got a quarterback and whether it's Shadoor and
you gotta you got a line, then imagine Shador throwing

(01:36:23):
the bot to brock Bowers.

Speaker 3 (01:36:25):
There, you are right about that.

Speaker 4 (01:36:27):
Like brock Bowers has already set the rookie record in
Raiders history for most catches at any position, including wide receiver.
He's on pace to shatter every single rookie tight end record.
And he's done it on a team that as trash
quarterback play and has had some of the worst offensive
line play because of injury and because of talent that
I've literally ever seen in my life as a Raiders fan.

(01:36:48):
And brock Bowers is still put.

Speaker 3 (01:36:50):
Up those numbers.

Speaker 4 (01:36:50):
Imagine what it would look like if he actually had
a competent court and and DeVante wasn't around for most
of the year to take off any of the heat,
Like it's just give this thing went wildly off the rails.

Speaker 3 (01:37:01):
Yeah, and yet we're still sitting here looking at brock
Bauers doing that. My god.

Speaker 2 (01:37:04):
Yeah, that's sick. It's sick. All right, let's take a look.
We've been talking about the teams and all let's go
back to college football and look at the games on
this rivalry Saturday where the Fellas Jason Fits Anthony Gargano
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(01:37:26):
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(01:38:37):
was just talking to Brianna during the during the break,
and did you do you like soup dumplings? You know
what they are?

Speaker 3 (01:38:47):
Soup dumplings? You mean, like just dumplings that learn a
little bit of broth.

Speaker 2 (01:38:52):
No, no, so so, in fact, the other day we
in fact we had them because we did it the
big Thanksgiving show and whatever. So then my friends and
we were out drinking and hanging out and we went
afterwards to get soup dumplings dim sum. And what it

(01:39:12):
is is the like you can get them poor crab.
We got poor crab.

Speaker 4 (01:39:16):
Oh yeah, yeah like them some yeah okay, like yeah,
those okay, those I've had, Yes, I love those.

Speaker 2 (01:39:20):
Yeah, They're the greatest, right, like so yeah, you bite
into it and the hot soup pours out.

Speaker 3 (01:39:25):
Yeah, yes, I mean the soup.

Speaker 2 (01:39:28):
Dumplings are the best. I freaking if you're like the
greatest treat ever to.

Speaker 4 (01:39:35):
Be honest, Like, there isn't a dumpling that I don't
really like that. I don't that I don't love, Like,
the soup dumplings are good. I also like the little
poos themed bun things. Yeah, like that's like the really
sweet does sort of thing that give me, give me
anything in a dumpling and like give me potstickers, like
if it's if it's a dumpling form, Oh yeah, I
want it.

Speaker 3 (01:39:53):
I want it?

Speaker 5 (01:39:54):
What is it about?

Speaker 2 (01:39:55):
I think we love as as people we love anything
in the pouch.

Speaker 3 (01:40:04):
Like kiaroons or what right we do?

Speaker 2 (01:40:08):
We love pouches, man, we're like when it comes in.
My favorite argament is a panzerati. You know what a
panzerati is?

Speaker 3 (01:40:17):
No, I'm gonna google it. Panzeradi.

Speaker 2 (01:40:20):
So it's basically, you know, imagine an inside uh.

Speaker 3 (01:40:27):
Like pocket, it's a hot is a small col zone.

Speaker 4 (01:40:31):
Okay, savory Italian turnover, All right, it's a hot pocket.

Speaker 3 (01:40:34):
Looks like a hot pocket.

Speaker 2 (01:40:36):
Right, but it's it's a little bit puffier and you
can get pizza dough, or you can get bread dough.
Bread dough is really like a stromboli. But you get
a pizza dough and you you you basically put cheese
and tomato sauce, and you can put whatever topics you want,
pepperoni or whatever, and then you fold it and then

(01:40:58):
you clamp the edges down so it's a pocket, and
then you deep fry it and it's ridiculous. It's like
a decaded item. It's it's unbelievable. Like those those pouches
and pockets are the best thing ever.

Speaker 3 (01:41:16):
I'm a cow zone guy too, Like I like cow zones.

Speaker 2 (01:41:18):
Ye say that same family, Yeah, cal Zones, Pancarati, their cousins,
they're the cousin pieces.

Speaker 4 (01:41:26):
Anyway, I still like pouch people is the name of
our band sometime.

Speaker 3 (01:41:31):
We're just going to create a band.

Speaker 5 (01:41:32):
We're pouched people. It's the pouches, the pouch rolls.

Speaker 3 (01:41:36):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:41:36):
I'm sorry, it's the best. All right, let's go through
the days. The games. We start, big nude kickoff. That's
right on Fox Michigan, Ohio State, Ohio State.

Speaker 5 (01:41:51):
Nineteen and a half point favorites.

Speaker 4 (01:41:56):
Hammer the points didn't do me. I want Ohio State
with the points. I just again, this is first and foremost.
I will loudly proclaim that I think Will Howard playing
as well as he did against Indiana was a big
statement moment for him.

Speaker 3 (01:42:10):
He hasn't gotten as.

Speaker 4 (01:42:11):
Necessarily as much love this year because we all know
how good the weapons are and how great the.

Speaker 3 (01:42:16):
Running backs are.

Speaker 4 (01:42:17):
But I thought, well, Howard played well against Indiana, that
was a big test for him, and Michigan just doesn't
have the cannons to compete here. This turns, this gets ugly,
and Michigan fans, I would just remind you that, hey,
you know what, You're Bowl eligible and you're still the
defending national champion, So who cares like you got a
quarterback coming in next year.

Speaker 3 (01:42:36):
That everybody's a big believer in.

Speaker 4 (01:42:40):
Absolutely, you hit a home run there, so you know what,
you survived your rebuild year.

Speaker 3 (01:42:46):
Just better luck next year. Take take l on this.

Speaker 4 (01:42:49):
Let Ohio State talk, they talk, but remember you have
something that they don't have right now, which is a
national championship banner that's up in the sky because you
are the defending national.

Speaker 2 (01:42:56):
Champions Tennessee Vandy. That's coming up at noon as well.
Tennessee is a ten and a half point favorite. Again,
you know you're sitting at ninety two. You can't have
any slip ups.

Speaker 4 (01:43:15):
Also, that number feels feels a little fat to me.
And here's why, Like you think about this Missouri, who
the committee still thinks is a good team, I don't
know why needed everything and a little bit of grace
from God to beat Vandy earlier this year. LSU not
a great football team.

Speaker 3 (01:43:32):
Just beat Vandy.

Speaker 4 (01:43:33):
I know they've lost two straight South Carolina absolutely random.
But this is a team that played Texas incredibly tough.
This is a team that beat Alabama. Like yark Lee
knows how to get Vandy up for these sorts of games.
So and this is I'll go back to my twenty
plus years living in Nashville. This game will never meet
as much to Tennessee as it does to Vandy for

(01:43:54):
Vanderbilt fans. And when James Franklin was at Vandy, this
was the real moment for him when when Vandy went
in and beat Tennessee, it changed the whole way Nashville
looked at Vandy and their legitimacy.

Speaker 3 (01:44:06):
Is a college football program.

Speaker 4 (01:44:07):
At the time, I believe that Vandy comes out with
a little bit of the thunder of the gods in
this one place hard. I think Tennessee wins the football game. Obviously,
playoffs on the line, but I just the number feels
a little fat to.

Speaker 3 (01:44:18):
Mean, Vandy's better than they're getting credit for.

Speaker 5 (01:44:19):
And I agree, I think they scared Tennessee.

Speaker 3 (01:44:22):
They're bull bound. I mean, Vandy's had to do a
bowl game.

Speaker 2 (01:44:25):
Who would have thought, Yeah, you know, I agree, I
think they Scarell.

Speaker 5 (01:44:29):
Colb Sunn back in the mix.

Speaker 2 (01:44:31):
Clemson, Man, I don't know, dude, she's three of us
South Carolina today. I look at that Clemson team and
I whatever, I did that?

Speaker 5 (01:44:41):
Acc Can I hold my nose?

Speaker 3 (01:44:46):
I mean's this is why?

Speaker 4 (01:44:47):
And I'm look, I've been part of the conversations, and
I'm lucky enough to cover college football a lot for Yahoo.
And you know South Carolina Clemson winner headed to the
college football playoff. I just South Carolin has beaten lately,
or sorry, Clemson has beaten lately. The Citadel Pitt Barely,
Virginia Tech, Virginia Wake Forest, Florida State. Find me the

(01:45:11):
moment there You're like, oh my god, I mean they
lost to Louisville pretty handily, and obviously they lost earlier
this year to Georgia handily, so they haven't really played
much since. And Kate Kobec has looked better. But I
just I struggled to find to figure out why we're
so desperately trying to cram Clemson into this football playoff conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:45:35):
I don't get it. You know, I'll be honest with you.
I think I like South Carolina more than a conlemption.

Speaker 4 (01:45:42):
And South Carolina still has I mean South Carolina has
the close loss to Bama that looks like a good loss.
They got just throttle by Ole miss They lose a
close game to LSU that we now know is not
very good. A lot of their other wins, I mean,
they beat Missouri again.

Speaker 3 (01:45:58):
I don't think Missouri's great. You know it's Texas A
and M.

Speaker 2 (01:46:02):
They'd bet they beat Vandy twenty eight to seven. They
beat Texas A and M forty four to twenty. They
beat Oklahoma thirty five to nine in Norman.

Speaker 7 (01:46:15):
I mean.

Speaker 5 (01:46:17):
Respect for that.

Speaker 3 (01:46:19):
I'll give you that. Those are decent wins. I don't
think that's enough.

Speaker 4 (01:46:22):
I don't think they've done enough to get themselves into
the College Football Playoff.

Speaker 5 (01:46:25):
And my point is I like them better than Clemson.

Speaker 3 (01:46:28):
Oh yeah, no, I'm with you. I think they win
the game today.

Speaker 4 (01:46:31):
I just don't think that winning the game suddenly propels
South Carolina into the college football playoff conversation, especially with
the head to head loss to Alabama.

Speaker 5 (01:46:41):
Penn State is Maryland. They're a huge favorite over the
terms twenty five.

Speaker 3 (01:46:46):
By the way, how's it? How do we work all
this out?

Speaker 4 (01:46:50):
That Rivalry Week really gives us such a turn of
a game for Penn State, Like they just don't have
a rival. This is like the weird thropple that the
Big Ten is in because, like you know, Penn State
would probably tell you that Ohio State's their big rival,
but Ohio State would tell you that Michigan's their big rival.
In Michigan State would tell you that Michigan's Like they
got side pieces all.

Speaker 3 (01:47:08):
Over the Big Ten. They can't figure out their rivalries.

Speaker 2 (01:47:10):
I mean they should be it should be Pitt, right,
Penn State's natural rival should be Pitt.

Speaker 4 (01:47:18):
There's just no win in them ever playing Pitt ever,
Like I mean, if they beat Pitt, you know, huzzah,
you beat Pitt. If you lose to pit It's going
to derail your entire season. It's a little like Tennessee
Vandy in that sense, like, yeah, you know, there's way
more on the line for Penn State. You're right, that
should be the rivalry. I just you know, I work
a lot with Adam Brenneman over at Yahoo, and I

(01:47:39):
was just laughing because I looked at I was gonna
ask him about his best rivalry week stories, and then
I looked up, like Maryland, I don't really care about
your rivalry week stories against Maryland.

Speaker 5 (01:47:48):
Cod Nah, No, you're and you're right.

Speaker 2 (01:47:52):
They don't have the you know, Penn State Notre Dame
was a big deal, but well you said Penn State,
Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan. But you know there are
the secondary rivals for the other teams. Miami Syracuse is
a great game. Miami's eleven in this game. I love
I love Syracuse in the game.

Speaker 4 (01:48:14):
I am so tired, just exhausted. And I'm not talking
about the four hours of sleep I got last night
because of an eight overtime football game. I'm talking about
the way I feel every week coming on here with
my friend, with my good brother Anthony gargane As I
sit here every week and I tell you.

Speaker 3 (01:48:33):
Miami's better than we think. I'm done. I'm done defending Miami.

Speaker 4 (01:48:38):
Miami at this point is the friend that can't keep
themselves out of jail. You know, Like every week you're like, now, guys,
I think you figured it out. He's fine, he's changed,
and then a week later you're like, yeah, I gotta
go bail him out again. I'm done, and I'm done.
We're in the car and I'm like, hey, man, I
love you, but I just can't. I can't trust you
to get out of your own way. That's Miami. I'm
tired of bailing them out. I'm tired of defending him, honestly. Like,

(01:49:00):
and I say this without a favorite college football team
really in my life. You know, if he doesn't count,
they've never been good enough. I hope Syracuse wins this game,
just a we could stop talking about Miami. Like what
I want is Syracuse to beat Miami, Clemson to get
into the ACC Championship game, and SMU to rail them
so that we don't end up with multiple ACC teams
in the College Football Playoff because they don't deserve it.

Speaker 2 (01:49:22):
They don't they don't I agree SMUs cal Today they're
almost a two touchdown favorite. Uh iron ball, man, how
good you used to What did the iron ball used
to be?

Speaker 4 (01:49:39):
I'm telling you, man, this is my favorite. I keep
saying about the iron Ball, and y'all like see through
the curt We live in a conspiracy theorist society that
I absolutely hate.

Speaker 3 (01:49:48):
I'm gonna be honest with you.

Speaker 4 (01:49:49):
I don't care about conspiracy theories and we live in
this like, oh, wake up, don't let them in. Okay,
if you're gonna wake up about any one thing in
the world, understand that when you hear the phrase throw
out the records, what you're what you're being told is
don't worry about the fact that this game sucks like
it's gonna be It's the Iron Bowl. I'm sure it's
gonna be exciting. It's always exciting. It has no consequence

(01:50:12):
in my mind. I mean, obviously Alabama could lose and
then maybe they're out, like clearly out of the college
football playoff and we don't have to talk about them anymore.
But man, like this game matters to Alabama and Auburn
fans because it's the Iron Bowl.

Speaker 3 (01:50:25):
But when's the last time, these two teams were collectively
so worthless to the college football conversation that we were
having to sit here and.

Speaker 4 (01:50:33):
Justify all throw out the records. So it's the Iron Bowl.
You never know what's gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (01:50:37):
It just shows you that this game stinks, like what
what we're used to.

Speaker 5 (01:50:43):
You're spot on, dude, You're spot on.

Speaker 2 (01:50:45):
I mean, I'm thinking if I close my eyes and
it's it's vern right and call the iron balls, Lundquists
and Gary Danielson and it's you know, it's an epic
Saturday armball.

Speaker 5 (01:51:03):
Bring it back to returning the field goal? Remember that
the kick six?

Speaker 3 (01:51:07):
All right? I know it got I've got when we
come back, I've got the best kick six story for you.

Speaker 2 (01:51:14):
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Speaker 6 (01:51:20):
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Speaker 5 (01:51:32):
Oh here it is.

Speaker 3 (01:51:34):
I'm oh, it just feels good.

Speaker 5 (01:51:39):
God, it does? I agree?

Speaker 3 (01:51:41):
Music being on field good this year. I waited like this,
you know, now, like all of a sudden. Oh god,
I'm in the spirit.

Speaker 4 (01:51:50):
Oh and there's Jimmy Fallon has a weird series XM
channel that you shouldn't listen to right now because you
should only be listening to us.

Speaker 3 (01:51:57):
But uh, he has a weird Christmas channel. It's like
it's great, It's great.

Speaker 4 (01:52:01):
So you know, I'm a big I'm I'm big on
interesting Christmas music this year.

Speaker 8 (01:52:05):
Let's go breefe like that at me because I played
a Christmas song.

Speaker 2 (01:52:09):
No, it might be Mark. I was waiting for it,
so I was about to laund you. I'm glad you
did what Koreana.

Speaker 9 (01:52:16):
Why it's not even December yet like that? Yeah, like okay,
tomorrow at midnight at one o'clock at fine, but like
it's still November. I'm still in Turkey mode.

Speaker 3 (01:52:30):
No, I the world has changed so much on this.

Speaker 4 (01:52:33):
I remember years ago actually calling because I've had like
serious excent for so long in my life. I remember
years ago calling them and being like, hey, I can't
find any Christmas music and they were like, sir, it's
it's early November. And I'm like yeah, And and now
like they some if you go out on the serious
extent app they keep some of these hidden on the
app all year long, which to me, by the way, Brianna,

(01:52:55):
I will say to you loudly, now, you can't sing
any song that has the lyric. I wish it was
Christmas every day because obviously you don't. And since you
won't listen to Christmas music and don't December first, you
don't want it to be Christmas every day. I see
how it is.

Speaker 3 (01:53:07):
I do not.

Speaker 9 (01:53:08):
I definitely do not.

Speaker 3 (01:53:09):
That's fine, Oh that's amazing.

Speaker 5 (01:53:16):
What now, what's your beef again?

Speaker 2 (01:53:19):
First of all, I think you're wrong because the many
Thanksgivings over, everybody decorates this weekend. This is a big decoration,
especially since it's late. Thanksgivings late, so when you decorate,
you listening.

Speaker 5 (01:53:34):
To Christmas music. So for sure, what's your beef against it?

Speaker 9 (01:53:38):
I just I just think it's too soon. I'm still,
like I said, I'm barely getting over Thanksgiving as soon
as Christmas hits and all the holidays stress of like
this needs to get done, this needs to get done.
It's just it just it's all is a stress with
me at all. I just I think of holidays like
to Molly's, like that's the only Mexican thing I do
in my life honestly, Like I don't speak Spanish, I

(01:54:01):
can't like converse with anybody, but I make smallies with
my family and that is stressful. I mean, you know,
you cook, and that is like a whole, like a semi.

Speaker 3 (01:54:12):
Just because I have, like I don't cook. What do
you think like just.

Speaker 9 (01:54:18):
Stress? I'm just I just associate Christmas music with like
the shopping, wrapping, cooking.

Speaker 5 (01:54:27):
You have to do this christ fun?

Speaker 9 (01:54:30):
Oh my god, listen.

Speaker 3 (01:54:33):
I meanterday for fun.

Speaker 8 (01:54:38):
Think about is holding on to the stress part of
it instead of seeing it as the fun part with.

Speaker 5 (01:54:44):
And that's why I want you to start your.

Speaker 8 (01:54:46):
Free and when the music starts your free to say Christmas.
That's the that's the line. After you cut the turkey
and the day has hit, now you can take out
all the stuff and decorate the house, turn the music
on it. That's the beginning point.

Speaker 9 (01:55:04):
The second I don't have leftovers in my fridge anymore,
that's when I can celebrate.

Speaker 2 (01:55:09):
Okay, But listen, you got the wrong attitude, trust me, don't.

Speaker 5 (01:55:14):
I don't. I give you good advice every week.

Speaker 9 (01:55:16):
Come on, bree, yes, yes you too.

Speaker 5 (01:55:20):
Well listen listen.

Speaker 2 (01:55:22):
I want you to embrace it and see that to
Molly's that's a beautiful thing. It's your family tradition, all right.
You embrace it. Don't look at it like it's sure.
You know, shopping is your privilege to be able to
go shopping, like you know, all that stuff, and that's

(01:55:43):
a lovely thing. It's all part because you're doing it
for somebody else.

Speaker 8 (01:55:47):
Don't spend together preparing the food. You know they're going
to enjoy it because your hands are love and you
put it together with you mone That's the whole thing
of preparing it.

Speaker 2 (01:56:00):
That's why home cook. That's why you don't just go
out and buy stuff. You make it yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:56:05):
Let me tell you.

Speaker 4 (01:56:06):
I was in charge of desserts, bring in some stuff
over for like some friends gathering.

Speaker 3 (01:56:11):
The other day.

Speaker 4 (01:56:12):
I had the the Holiday Baking Championship on the background
on the on the TV while I had the Christmas
music playing desserts like let's go.

Speaker 3 (01:56:22):
I mean, I'm on ful.

Speaker 4 (01:56:23):
I was wearing the aprin Full deal on this like
and by the way, the little little Debbie Christmas cake
trifle that's all over Instagram is worth it.

Speaker 3 (01:56:31):
I'm telling you. I crushed it.

Speaker 4 (01:56:33):
It looked like it was straight out of a magazine.
It was like it was quite the hit. Everybody loved it.
Uh yeah, I've got a whole Instagram like list, a
saved playlist that's just holiday recipes. And even in my
current healthy eating stage, I intend to make all Like
I'm not even gonna eat them. I'm gonna make them
all just because I want to make desserts and take
them to people and have them have Christmas joy bre

(01:56:55):
like this is this You just gotta find the joy
in it and then you just just like everybody's so happy,
like this is a happy time of the year.

Speaker 9 (01:57:03):
You guys don't live in California.

Speaker 3 (01:57:05):
I don't.

Speaker 9 (01:57:05):
I hate to be like the bear of bad news,
But have you heard of the four or five freeway?

Speaker 1 (01:57:09):
Have you heard of the galleria?

Speaker 9 (01:57:10):
Have you heard of Citadel where there's.

Speaker 5 (01:57:12):
I mean, listen, you know that's like that all the time.
So what's the big you know?

Speaker 3 (01:57:18):
You know, you.

Speaker 5 (01:57:21):
Like that's fling of the down parts of it.

Speaker 4 (01:57:23):
And look, the last time I went out when it
was crazy shopping, you know what I did, I made
like little Christmas cookies. This last year, made little Christmas cookies,
put them in little bags like little like you know,
cell a fane, like little Christmas baggies. And as I
went out shopping, the people that were working the register
gave them cookies. Made everybody happy.

Speaker 3 (01:57:41):
You're taking negative, You're an ace, take a negative, making
a spirit Christmas spirit.

Speaker 4 (01:57:48):
Let's call you can't like I am full on elf,
like Will Ferrell.

Speaker 2 (01:57:52):
Enough to say you are you're you're a great elf.
Man's fantastic.

Speaker 3 (01:57:58):
I made made cookies today, my by green tights.

Speaker 4 (01:58:03):
Might might go out in the tights outfit while I
go Christmas shopping, like.

Speaker 3 (01:58:07):
Usually it's a onesie, but I might, I might tights it.

Speaker 8 (01:58:10):
Let's just let's just see pictures of that.

Speaker 9 (01:58:12):
That just yeah, that sounds too too difficult not to
miss that.

Speaker 4 (01:58:17):
I'll be honest like this is this is you know,
you know I love you. This is why we could
never go Christmas shopping together. You would last eight minutes
with me before you're like you in the corner, mute putton.
I don't need you anymore. Like I'm I am that guy,
like somebody bumps into me in the store and I'm like,
I'm a merry Christmas like I'm just infallibly positive this.

Speaker 3 (01:58:35):
Time of year.

Speaker 5 (01:58:36):
I love that about you.

Speaker 2 (01:58:38):
We got to work on Bree Fellas Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (01:58:44):
Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

Speaker 2 (01:58:48):
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just relax this weekend and watch football. We've been going
through the college day, Big Day of course, the biggest game,
and we're gonna get to the NFL just a moment.
The biggest game really today. More than Michigan Ohio State
because you kind of know what that's about. You know,
more than Oregon Washington, because I don't think Washington has

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the chops to beat Oregon.

Speaker 5 (01:59:57):
It comes down to Texas Texas A and M.

Speaker 2 (02:00:00):
I think that's that's the biggest game most on the line.
A and M is Texas a five and eight point
favorite at college Station.

Speaker 5 (02:00:11):
I think A and M is very live in the game.

Speaker 3 (02:00:14):
Yeah, and I mean not for nothing.

Speaker 4 (02:00:16):
As we know, Texas A and M controls their own
destiny right like. They're the number twenty team currently in
the rankings, and it should be noted that they have
a very clear path that the college football Playoffs. They
have to beat Texas and Georgia to do it. That's
less than ideal. But frankly, this game is everything for
the day. This is a must win game for A

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and M and you know, for the Longhorns. I don't
know that Texas has a ton of wiggle room on
this either. So even though Texas comes into this with
only one loss, so depending on what else happens. So
but really the question here for me is all about
do I believe at some point that Texas A and
M can actually consistently throw the football.

Speaker 3 (02:00:56):
They haven't been able to do that at all.

Speaker 4 (02:00:58):
You know, they've had quarterback issues from most of the
year and now they've got sort of a dual threat
situation that they feel pretty good about it. I know
they're gonna be able to run the football from the
quarterback position. I don't know if they're going to be
able to throw the football well enough. So I think
that's the biggest part of this is can they actually
come in and throw the football. If they become one dimensional,

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they don't win. If they can stay two dimensional, and
then that defensive line can cook against Texas, it's gonna
be really interesting.

Speaker 5 (02:01:25):
She had. Man, you're spot on. It could be really interested.

Speaker 2 (02:01:31):
Is right on, brother, It's gonna be interesting in a
big way.

Speaker 5 (02:01:36):
All right, we talked a lot of kles.

Speaker 2 (02:01:38):
Let's start out a look at the NFL, because we
talked about it a little bit. We started to show
talking about ibra Flus and the Eber fumble of the
time out, and then of course, you know, there's nothing worse.
The whole world's watching the Gabe right like you know,

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the whole cut it's Thanksgiving. The NFL owns Thanksgiving. Everybody's
watching it, and everybody's rooting Chicago because everybody's rooting for
the underdog except for Detroit.

Speaker 5 (02:02:11):
Like you know, that's how it works.

Speaker 2 (02:02:13):
And next thing, you know, to get the pass interference
pedalty that puts you square to field goal range to
tie it, and it just goes sideways from there. One mistake,
play called mistake, and then the timeout was the worst
thing ever.

Speaker 4 (02:02:30):
The timeout and the fact that you know he came
out afterwards and said, well, this made sense. And we've
heard so much from Caleb in the process too, like
there was time left obviously with the timeout, they could
have taken their opportunity to burn that time out compose themselves. Instead,
it takes forever to get a play call in. They
don't really seem to know what they're doing. Then Caleb

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changes the play call because he realizes he's not gonna
have enough time to get anything done, and heaves the
ball down field and you're just understaying, how the hell
did this happen?

Speaker 3 (02:02:58):
And you know, that's.

Speaker 4 (02:02:59):
Why I think when you see that boneheaded moment, and
it speaks to the communication, It speaks to the fact
that the play call should have come in. It speaks
to the fact that they should have been definitive. It
speaks to the fact that eber Flu's standing on the
sideline had to look over and say, this is going
off the rails. We got to call the time out
now whether you want to or not, Like he never
saved the team from themselves in that situation. So the
Bears lose yet another heartbreaking, oh my god game, like

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this has been such a weird year for them, But man,
I just I feel for them that they lose that way.
But honestly, if it gets changed at the coaching position,
maybe it was the best thing for him.

Speaker 5 (02:03:33):
Yeah, because here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (02:03:35):
You can't consistently lose games like that because they become
coaches losses, they become you know, you don't manage the
game correctly, and that was just egregious on many many levels.
And then let me ask you a question, because after
the lines are really really good, like we know how

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good they are, it's like almost they kind of kind
of fall asleep a little bit. And that's kind of
what happened in that game. But moving on to the
second game, I mean, was it rock bottom? The worst
four o'clock game ever?

Speaker 4 (02:04:15):
Loh, Rush, We're gonna sit here, not you and I,
but there are plenty of people that are gonna sit
here and try and justify why the Cowboys are suddenly
going to go on a run to make the playoffs.
Don't get it twisted. That is not a good Cowboys team.
That was not a good Cowboys win. That is a
dreadful Giants team with one of the worst efforts you

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could possibly see. I mean, that is a Giants team
that has quit in every possible way, that has nothing
to play for. And you can see that they have
nothing to play for. They're not playing for each other,
they're not playing for pride, They're not playing for anything.

Speaker 3 (02:04:46):
It's a Giants team that is laid down. And I
don't think win's another game this year.

Speaker 4 (02:04:49):
So you know, the Giants and the Raiders are clearly
headed towards top three picks.

Speaker 3 (02:04:54):
In the draft. It's just what an abysmal moment.

Speaker 4 (02:04:57):
And also, how did the league not see that coming?
We all knew the Giants might struggle this year. Why
are you giving me that game on Thanksgiving?

Speaker 3 (02:05:03):
It's a standalone game. Give me at least the shot
at a game that should be good. And I know
they always liked to put the Cowboys versus a division foe.
I just man, I hated it.

Speaker 2 (02:05:13):
Yeah, I hate division games on Thanksgiving. I don't see
division games on Thanksgiving. I think that's a mistake. And
you threw that.

Speaker 5 (02:05:20):
I don't know why they like that. I don't like it.

Speaker 4 (02:05:25):
Non division like Thanksgiving Day games to me should be
teams that almost never play each other.

Speaker 3 (02:05:30):
Yeah we're getting this one. Yeah, give me that.

Speaker 2 (02:05:34):
Yeah, they need to start looking at the opponents more
for you know, for the Lions and the Cowboys, and
make them make them interesting.

Speaker 5 (02:05:42):
Man, I'm with you. Look, Green Bay Miami was an
interesting game. That was a good one.

Speaker 3 (02:05:48):
Yeah it was.

Speaker 4 (02:05:49):
And by the way, I know this is sacrilegious. I
wouldn't have a problem if they stopped always having the
same teams on Thanksgiving.

Speaker 3 (02:05:56):
I just I know, Cowboys Lions fans, you're used to it,
but man, I don't. I'd rather see like a mix
up of actually good teams.

Speaker 4 (02:06:02):
But yeah, the Dolphins were everything that we thought the
Dolphins would be there, soft and cold. And I don't
want to oversimplify this, but how do your running backs,
how do your starting running backs only account for I
think it was either twelve or fourteen rushers in the
entire game in a cold weather Lambeau. Just you knew
it was going to be a physical football game. You
knew Green Baby was going to punch you in the mouth.

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You knew you were going to have to commit to
hit and the fact that they didn't even try to
run the football, it just blew my mind.

Speaker 2 (02:06:29):
Yeah, yeah, I'm completely with you. I'm I was surprised.
And then that brings us to yesterday Fitzi's Raiders who
started the show talking.

Speaker 5 (02:06:41):
About it, and Man, a couple of things from.

Speaker 2 (02:06:46):
The Kansas City side, because we'll get to your personal
side of them up with the Kansas City side, which
is a big picture. I don't know how you beat
Baltimore Buffalo with that offensive line with the tackle play.
I mean the tackle and look, I know Baltimore's got herrange,
bad defense, the whole thing. But the problem with that is,

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and I'm talking about in the playoffs, you're gonna have
to score to match them. And I don't know, I dude,
for the life of me, I don't know how The
tackle play is horrible.

Speaker 5 (02:07:25):
And I know I get it.

Speaker 2 (02:07:26):
You know that they you know how good they are
the whole thing, and I'm a Chiefs guy through and through,
and they beat, you.

Speaker 5 (02:07:34):
Know, Baltimore to start the season.

Speaker 2 (02:07:37):
But this tackle play is I think it's killing my
homes and it's killing Andy's play calling because they can't
go five to seven step drop and get the ball
down the field.

Speaker 5 (02:07:48):
He just doesn't have time.

Speaker 3 (02:07:50):
You are right about everything you just said.

Speaker 4 (02:07:52):
And I still think the Kansas City Chiefs are going
to win the Super Bowl because they just don't know
how to lose. They don't make key mistakes. The offensive
line is outmatched, but Mahomes saves them over and over
and over again with plays that he has to make
like this is not the best of my homes. Everybody
keeps saying that. I think there's some fact to that.
But the thing of it is, it's not about the

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plays Mahomes doesn't make during the course of the game.
It's about the fact that late in the game all
he does is find a way to win.

Speaker 3 (02:08:19):
And this team has made a deal with the devil.
That's the only explanation.

Speaker 4 (02:08:23):
How do you win on a weird fumbled snap right
after you won on a like a wild broken play
that got you down the field against the Panthers who
suck after you won against a blocked field goal like
the way the Chiefs win week in and week out
is it's like nothing I've ever seen. I've never seen
a team this weird before my entire life, and I

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can't make it make sense, but I just can't. I
literally can't bet against Kansas City because all Kansas City
knows how to do is win these times.

Speaker 2 (02:08:53):
I get it, dude, I mean, you can't look at
a Black Friday game and then judge. But I just
judge their old line, like their O line worries me.
How many times is he going to line up off
the line of crimage to try to get a head start.

Speaker 5 (02:09:07):
I mean, everybody's looking for.

Speaker 4 (02:09:09):
It, and they're still giving up five sacks a game lately,
Like for the second time in five days, Mahomes took
five sacks in this game. Like that is just it
is wild to see this happen again and again. It's
it's crazy that they have this deficiency and they still
win football games. I don't know how it happens. And

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frankly I said a year ago, like, you know, if
you're not going to get the Chiefs, now how you're
gonna get them. I think this year's Chiefs might even
be worse than last year's Chiefs. And I don't know,
Like I feel more confident in the Lions, for example,
Like a team like the Lions that can really put
stress on the Chiefs and make them score all the time,
has a very good chance of unseating them.

Speaker 3 (02:09:52):
I just can't. I can't bet against them.

Speaker 5 (02:09:55):
Yeah yeah, I think you're right.

Speaker 3 (02:09:57):
It's gross to watch. It makes no sense.

Speaker 5 (02:10:00):
It's a shame because it just derouls.

Speaker 2 (02:10:02):
I mean because now with Pacheck go back, they should
be it could be really good.

Speaker 5 (02:10:07):
Ya Hopkins is stud like they're poised.

Speaker 2 (02:10:11):
If they just had that spot figured out, they would
they would be on three pt realm. But you know,
I just think I don't know how you overcome that tackle,
and I feel you on now your your personal side
as a die hard lifelong Raiders fan, dude, I feel
for you.

Speaker 7 (02:10:30):
Man.

Speaker 2 (02:10:30):
I like losing that way, and I know it's probably
for the best because of the draft pick. But it's
a Friday. I was thinking about you. I'm like, man,
win one for Fitzie. Just may it feel good for
a day.

Speaker 4 (02:10:45):
Let me let me take a second, though, and remind
the league that Black Friday every year.

Speaker 3 (02:10:49):
Is now gonna have a game. We all know that
standalone game every Friday.

Speaker 4 (02:10:52):
That game should be in Vegas on all black unis
Black Friday.

Speaker 3 (02:10:57):
They should do like an all black.

Speaker 4 (02:10:58):
Pull jersey, and they should play an allegiance the only
black stadium in the NFL. Black Friday should be hosted
in Vegas every single year. I think that's that makes
two sents not to do it. That being said, yeah,
I think when you lose a heartbreaking game like this,
you just I don't know what keeps them coming out
week in and week out.

Speaker 3 (02:11:16):
I don't know what keeps them moving like that.

Speaker 4 (02:11:20):
Week in and week out, because they tried their best,
like this was not a Raiders team that came out
flat and to their credit, that came out and they
tried to punch, and it's just it just wasn't there,
you know. So the frustrating part is you don't fix
that easily. And the frustrating part is that Mahomes and
Andy Reid aren't going away anytiming soon, right, So that's
just going to be the real of it is in

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the AFC West, is that b Nicks, Sean Payton, Harbaugh,
and Herbert and obviously reading Mahomes like that's that's a
fixture of life for the next ten years. I mean,
it's just it's crazy to think how far the Raiders
have to go to become a competitive team.

Speaker 3 (02:11:59):
So the the at.

Speaker 4 (02:12:01):
Least if the goal is to suck for Shador, and
I don't know if he's worth it, but I think
that's what's gonna happen. If the goal is sucked for Shador,
they got one step closer to that yesterday.

Speaker 5 (02:12:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:12:13):
Yeah, I feel you, buddy, I feel you. All right,
let's go look at tomorrow's acts and a little look ahead.
So big one early Arizona Minnesota. So Minnesota has to
keep up with Detroit. And it's a really good game, man,

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Arizona Minnesota nine to two, Cardinals, looking after lost last
week at Seattle, trying desperately get back to the win
to grab a win. Packers win already, Lions went already.
Now Minnesota needs to keep pace.

Speaker 3 (02:12:55):
I think.

Speaker 4 (02:12:55):
Also the most impressive part for Minnesota is that Sam
Darnold has gotten right again. Like he went through that
the yips a few weeks ago where he was throwing
picks that didn't make any sense. Over the last couple
of games, that's cleaned up. So if you're Minnesota, you
feel like, man, you got if you have a streaky quarterback.
And I think it's fair to say that at times
in his career, Sam Darnold just been a little streaky.

Speaker 3 (02:13:15):
If you got a streaky quarterback, you need to get
him on the right side. He is right now. So
if you're Minnesota, even in a game last.

Speaker 4 (02:13:20):
Week where Justin Jefferson wasn't as big a part of
the game plan and they're still able to go out
and get a big win. If you're Arizona, you're coming
off of really a damning loss. Like this is an
Arizona team that a week ago was like, hey, should.

Speaker 3 (02:13:33):
We be giving them more of a look? Are they
gonna win the West? And then they go out and
they just had no offensive identity or rhythm at all
against Seattle. So credit to the Seahawks for the big win.

Speaker 4 (02:13:43):
But man, if I'm Arizona right now and pucker up
like you gotta figure this out, you gotta figure it
out quick, because Arizona still has a real shot at
win their division.

Speaker 3 (02:13:50):
But they lost a lot of the wiggle room that
they have with that loss last week.

Speaker 5 (02:13:54):
Yeah, yeah, I didn't.

Speaker 2 (02:13:57):
Look, I'm curious because minnesot to let that Bears team
come back on them.

Speaker 5 (02:14:03):
I was surprised.

Speaker 2 (02:14:05):
Like I liked Chicago, I liked Minnesota a lot in
that game, and of course they're up, you know, eleven,
and it looks for the next thing, you know, they
get the touchdown two point conversion, and then they come
back on sidekick, get the field goal and send it
to overtime.

Speaker 5 (02:14:22):
And I was stunned fitcy by.

Speaker 2 (02:14:25):
That because I think the best part about Minnesota is
its defense, and I was shocked that Chicago came back
in that game because I felt Minnesota's defense looked completely legit.

Speaker 5 (02:14:38):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:14:39):
I mean, I still think Lions clearly number one, but
I think green Bay's number two more than than Minnesota.

Speaker 4 (02:14:47):
Yeah, I think it was a wild sequence of events though,
like the chances of getting the two point conversion then
the on side kick, like I think, sort of worst
case scenario. Across all that, I will say I thought
green Bay was really impressive last night.

Speaker 2 (02:15:01):
You know that.

Speaker 4 (02:15:02):
Certainly I haven't reached the spot where you know that
Teeter totter A is starting to lean towards where I
favor Jordan Love more than I favor Sam Darnold in
these situations.

Speaker 3 (02:15:11):
So yeah, I mean, look at me evolving on my.

Speaker 5 (02:15:15):
Jordan Love takes you And I used to go at it.

Speaker 3 (02:15:20):
Risks sometimes I think I think sometimes he.

Speaker 4 (02:15:23):
Puts the ball a little bit to a risk for
my comfort for great quarterbacks. But that being said, yeah,
I think right now there's I have a little bit
more trust. And by the way, Lafleur sneaky, sneaky.

Speaker 5 (02:15:33):
Good game.

Speaker 2 (02:15:34):
I love Matt Lafour. I think he's a great coach.
I love him. I think he's a great coach. I
think he really is. I think he's a really really good,
strong offensive mind.

Speaker 5 (02:15:44):
I think he's a really good coach. I'm a big
Laflora fan.

Speaker 3 (02:15:47):
Yeah, he's really shown up and shown out in this
Green Bay situation.

Speaker 2 (02:15:52):
Also tomorrow, you know, a couple of heavyweights four o'clock,
the nine to two Eagles against the eight and four Ravens.

Speaker 5 (02:16:04):
This has got epic Henry.

Speaker 2 (02:16:07):
Versus Barkley, King versus SA Quad and I can't wait
for this matchup. Man, this is gonna be incredible.

Speaker 4 (02:16:18):
This is too legitimate MVP candidates going up against two
you know, the As you mentioned earlier, the Ravens defense
has not been good this year, but the Ravens defense
particularly has been gettable. Throwing the football, They've actually done
pretty well against so I think we have to step
back here and acknowledge that this is MVP versus strength
on both sides, you know, so the ability to run

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the football. I'm genuinely curious to see if the Ravens
will have the patience in play calling that I think
it will take to beat Philly. You're gonna have to
be willing to just accept two yard runs. You're gonna
have to be willing to accept smashing the ball and
barely leaning and forward. You're gonna have to be willing
to accept wearing Philly down over the course game running
the football. I just sometimes I think Top Monken gets

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a little impatient as a play caller, So I'm interested
to see that. And then, frankly, the other side of
it is that the Eagles, should they choose to throw
the football, should have big opportunities to throw the football.

Speaker 3 (02:17:14):
So I think it's.

Speaker 4 (02:17:16):
Actually weirdly the two MVB candidates will not be what
wins or loses this football game as much as it
will be calling the play calling, the ability to get
something else out of those offenses that actually plays it.
But this is just huge and the Ravens need this.
The Ravens season is sort of on the brink of
becoming a bit of a disappointment compared to.

Speaker 3 (02:17:34):
Where I thought they would be. So I think Baltimore's
backs against the wall.

Speaker 4 (02:17:37):
Yeah, Like, I think Baltimore is the most talent other
than the Philly offensive line is better. And you know,
I said this early in the season, I think they
might be the toughest offense to stop. And you push
back at the time and say, what about Philly. I
think that's a fair argument. Philly looks like it now,
particularly since they've gotten a little healthier. Baltimore does not
look as unstoppable to me, and I think that's a

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little bit on part their defense. But man, they should
not be. They should be far closer to Kansas City
in the upper echelon for the way they're playing. And
right now, I mean, they're competing for a wildcard spot,
so they gotta find a way to stack and wins.

Speaker 2 (02:18:13):
Yeah, I'm a bit I'm a believer in Baltimore. I
am Matt. The matchup is fascinating to me, this whole matchup.
I can't wait to say it because the Eagles see
if I'm the Eagles, I know I can make plays
down the field. I know that Baltimore is susceptible down
the field in the secondary, but that's not the Eagles strength.

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Hurts isn't a guy that you want throwing the ball
thirty five times a game.

Speaker 5 (02:18:40):
It's not who he is.

Speaker 2 (02:18:41):
He will spread it around like Lamar will spread the
ball round to eight different receivers.

Speaker 5 (02:18:47):
That's not Jalen.

Speaker 2 (02:18:49):
Jalen works best when it's run, run, run, run, run.
He's taken off, get a little play action at times,
or you go down the field to AJ Brown. That's
the Eagles offense. Because you're right, it's all about their
line play. Their line play is ridiculous. So I don't
know that he's the guy that you that's going to

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exploit the Ravens secondary. Conversely, the Eagles defense is really
showing up. I mean they've been stout in the back
end that they added Cooper de Jeene the rookie, and
Queenyon Mitchell the other rookie, the other at corner.

Speaker 5 (02:19:27):
It's been good.

Speaker 2 (02:19:28):
Now the lost Brandon Graham, who's their edge, who's really
been the been the kind of mister Eagle type of guy.
It'll be interesting to see if they can hold up
against the run. So I think that's gonna be I
think you're right about you know, you're gonna have to
com if you commit to Henry at some point will

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pay off, but you need to be patient with it.

Speaker 3 (02:19:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:19:53):
And look, I think you're right that Jalen isn't the
type that's gonna want to throw the ball forty times.
I could say, stat line, that's like maddening. Five catches
for one hundred and sixty yards for AJ, Like, I
don't know that it's polk. I think it's its impact
of the opportunities. That's where he's gonna get is to me,
is less about less about peppering the secondary and more

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about just man, you lost AJ twice and he got
two sixty yard touchdowns.

Speaker 5 (02:20:20):
Yeah, yeah, I can see it. Yep, yep.

Speaker 2 (02:20:23):
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Speaker 5 (02:21:42):
The Brain.

Speaker 2 (02:21:42):
A fitsy. The Brain had a big reunion last night.
School reunion. He was styling profile had to dine on
his arm right looking sharp.

Speaker 7 (02:21:57):
Yeah, the thirty fifth high school reunion. Laft night. Just
spoke up, Anthony. It was just the Georgia Georgia Tech
team descended. So I just, you know, got like a
five minute sleep and you know, but it was great.
I got back. I saw, you know, I watched the
overtime of that and it was actually really I don't
know if you happen to see it, but yeah, I was.

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Actually it was actually pretty good. It was pretty good.

Speaker 2 (02:22:21):
Yeah, wild wild night, wild game, and we got a
wild Saturday, my brother listen, a big new kickoff right
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State fifteen and nine. Go, How in the world can
a Michigan stay in the game. You are a Michigan man.

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Do you lay it in nineteen and a half?

Speaker 7 (02:22:44):
Yeah? The only side I can look, Anthony, is that fide.
The only thing I will say. It's funny, Anthony. Me
and you talked about the Chiefs Raiders game the other day,
which is not a game I bet, but I when
I looked at that game, I said to myself, we
have a Graaiters team that's seemingly is quit, that has
nothing against the chief Scene. That was what twelve and
one at the time or whatever, and that was just

(02:23:06):
mocking the Chiefs for beating them last year, like they
acted like they won the Super Bowl. And I'm like,
you know what, if I was can't say a Chief player,
I would really want to not only win that game,
but to win that game crushingly, and they were not
able to do it. I mean, Hans is probably not
that good that's probably the difference between the Chiefs and
that Ohio State actually is good. But when I look

(02:23:27):
at this game, I just don't think Michigan is They're
going to really struggle to score here, really struggle to
score missing their best defensive player on top of it,
and I think Ohio State is really going to want
to get margin. I think this is going to be
like a James Franklin specially when James Franklin also those
games against the bad teams, these things to put up
the points, only took Ohio State here. I hate to

(02:23:49):
say it. I think it's a fair line, but I
think it's a line that when I look at the game,
I think Michigan is going to struggle to get double digits,
and I think Ohio State will be able to get
at least into the upper twenty, if not into the
mid to high thirties.

Speaker 3 (02:24:02):
Well that's because today it's not the game. It's just
a game. The game today is Texas, Texas A and M.

Speaker 7 (02:24:09):
Yeah. I think that. I think that's a really good game.
I think it's really going to be a close game.
I think it's going to be honestly kind of like
similar lower lower scoring, not to what we saw. Again,
I thought the Georgia Tech Georgia game, I didn't understand
that line this game, look to me, Texas the dirty
secret on Texas. Everyone wants to talk about this high

(02:24:31):
profile offense with the quarterback play. Well the quarterback play
really hasn't been that wonderful. Quite frankly, they struggled on offense.
This has not been a team that's done great offensively.
Look a and M to me, crushing loss last week
to Auburn lay crushing. But this is, you know, going
to be a huge game for them. And again I

(02:24:51):
just think Texas struggles in a game against a good
competition to win by margin. I think Texas probably wins
a close game here, but you want to give me
over a doeagle you're I think texting them keeps this
game really tight, and I think the game goes under
the total. I think it's going to be a lower
scoring game. I don't think either team gets a thirty year.

Speaker 2 (02:25:08):
Yeah, I think you're right about that. I like that
a lot. I think you're right. I like Clemson that
I do. I mean, I like South Carolina today.

Speaker 7 (02:25:19):
I think SOCC is going to win and I bet
them getting three. I think it's down at two and
a half in most spots. Now I think I'm able
to stop their defensive linement. I just I think scoct
Phone has a better team. I main fact that. And
you want to give me points in a game where
I think I have the better that you know, it's interesting.

(02:25:40):
I clese if they win this game, it'll be interesting
to see if they get into the college football playoff.
And I looked at it. I think I had them
between like if they do win, right between twolve and thirteen,
and I think it's to be very close if they
were able to get in. So obviously they need the
game for blood. I just don't only think they're that
good again, I bet I bet South Caroline here. I

(02:26:03):
think they have the better team taking points.

Speaker 4 (02:26:05):
Yeah, it's gonna be really interesting when you say that,
looking at the playoffs. Just keep in mind, everybody that
you can finish eleven and twelve and get left out
depending on what happens with some of these big thieves.
So look at my look at Miami for a second,
because we're trying to figure out if there's the way
Miami loses, because I'm not sure they deserve to be
in the playoffs, So give me your thoughts Miami taking
on Syracuse.

Speaker 7 (02:26:25):
Well, again, it's funny Miami's team to see that. I
didn't like wanting to quote unput back on you know
what I mean by that is, I just they're obviously
like their offense has been relatively consistent all year, and
they do have a really good offense. But defensively, I
just I just don't fuss this team even a little bit.
I really don't. I don't think there are any kind

(02:26:48):
of threat in the playoffs. I think they're a little
bit of a paper tiger. Definitely loans Syracuse here lean
over as well, because I do think Syracuse with befoord
will be able to score points against the Miami. The
final think is very good in Miami's offense. Associate, you
want to say what their team, Their offense has been
consistent good all year, so I do trust that they
will score their bab the ap points here. I just

(02:27:08):
don't trust the enough to stop Syracuse here like Syracuse
giving me eleven.

Speaker 5 (02:27:13):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2 (02:27:14):
Anything else today that strikes your fancy that you look
at around you might see some value.

Speaker 7 (02:27:21):
I think we more or less. I hit like most
I do lean Anthony vander Bill's played pretty consistent all year. Anthony,
I do think that they can keep that game within
eleven against Tennessee USC. I bet plus four in the
first half against Notre Dame or plus started to half
of the game, Actually that both. I think USC will

(02:27:44):
keep that game close. I think that game will I
think No Name is clearly the better team, But I
think the game I think that line was just a
tick too high. I think it was a tick too high.
I do think that USC can keep the game within
a one score game in Arkansas Missouri again, I think
it's a fifty fifty game. You know, I'll take Arkansas
getting three in the game. I get her to be

(02:28:04):
fifty fifty.

Speaker 5 (02:28:05):
I'm with you.

Speaker 3 (02:28:06):
What about what about tomorrow's action?

Speaker 4 (02:28:08):
Is there a Sunday Is there a Sunday upset bruin
somewhere that you love upset?

Speaker 7 (02:28:14):
Let me see here, let me look through it. Well,
I did bet Pittsburgh getting three against Cincinnati, which I
guess will consider can be considered a quote unquote upset. Again,
I don't know how this line is aiming over one
and a half for Cincinnati. I just don't get it.
I really don't. They're basically saying, because you don't get
three point for home field anymore, you get way closer
to one and a half to two. They're saying that

(02:28:34):
today it's legitimately better than Pittsburgh, legitimately better. I just
don't think they're legitimately better. I mean, obviously they're not
going by the old pill bar Solo's at comment right
you are where your record is. They're throwing that out
the window completely. I think the teams are closed. Don't
get me wrong. I just do not think that Pittsburgh

(02:28:54):
marriage being a three point underdog in a game that
I again, I think it's close to all fifty to
fifty game. I'll think Pittsburgh getting three. So I guess
that would be one. Tennessee against Washington to see line
sixth again, the way Washington to be really leaking oil
down this stretch. I think that's the game Tennessee can win,
out right. I don't think they will went out right,

(02:29:17):
but I did bet them. I actually got a bad number.
I only took five and a half, but it was
up to six. I think that's the game they definitely
can win. That's another underdog. I think it's a real,
real shot. Those would probably be my two favorite underdog bets.
Some other games, I like guys real quick, like Ravens
laying two and a half against the Eagles, like the

(02:29:38):
spot here for Baltimore. I think I'm a Philadelphia has
been amazing. I think they want eight in a row.
But I don't like this matchup the time I discussed
the Stanthony previously. When I look at what they like
to do, they like to run the ball, and they're
facing the team that takes away what they like to
do better than any team in the NFL. Now, doesn't mean
they're not gonna be able to still have success with

(02:29:59):
bar He's such a great player, but I think he's
at least a little bit limited versus the superman he's
been against every other team. I've bet a bunch of
jail and Hurts props overs I think they're gonna have
to pass more, and a bunch of a bunch of
bet of Saquon Barkley's thunders running the ball. Don't think
Saquan has a typical four hundred and fifty yard game here.
I really don't. I like the Ravens. I like the
Rams laying two and a half guys against the Saints.

(02:30:21):
I just think I had far better on the offensive
side of the ball, laying less the field wal efty team.
I just don't think is that good lead two and
a half with Indian over the Patriots. Just think that
I had a team again less than the field goal
here that the mediocre team against a bad Patriots team.
And I took Seattle against the Jets basically a round

(02:30:42):
a pick. I just think Seattle has been solid and
consistent and the Jets have been anything.

Speaker 3 (02:30:47):
But what do you think of?

Speaker 2 (02:30:49):
What do you think of tomorrow night? Fascinating game? Bills
and Niners? Of course we saw that. Did Niners kind
of fall apart against Green Bay?

Speaker 5 (02:31:01):
I mean, I guess it's the same.

Speaker 2 (02:31:03):
It feels like it's the same path or the same
goes down the same road.

Speaker 5 (02:31:09):
Where are you at with it? Though?

Speaker 7 (02:31:11):
Well, you know, it's it's interesting. I bet on the open.
I did bet on the open. Uh, Buffalo min is
five and a half, and I was like, you know
what again, I call these games free world games. I'm like,
if Rock Party doesn't play, this line is going to
go through the seven. It does play, it'll still be
minimum five and a half, you know for sure, and

(02:31:35):
the line went to seven. I called it right, But
now they announced that party is probably in a place,
and the line went back down to six, which I understand. No,
Nick Bosta though. The only way I can look here
is Buffalo again. I wish Perty wasn't playing because then
it would have been free money to me. But with
Purty they obviously have a shot. But I just think
this ants to good team is a pretty much da

(02:31:57):
I think it's gonna be hard for them. Not the
same team we saw last year. I think Buffalo Apa
Bay is the real deal. I think Buffalo does win
this game, and I think they do cover it.

Speaker 5 (02:32:07):
Yeah, yeah, I feel the same thing.

Speaker 2 (02:32:09):
You just know that Shinahan's going to try to do
where you can't keep it close.

Speaker 7 (02:32:13):
For sure. They're only their game out of the playoffs,
So it's not like I'm sure they're still like listen,
I mean they're not. They're not quitting. I'm sure they're like,
we just win a game here and we're right back
in it, which is true. I just I always say
when they say next man up, and in football or
any sport, I'm always like, well, can be next game?
Up next, man up, but a lot most times and not.
You know, it's hard to do that when you lose

(02:32:34):
great players and you're replacing them the players who aren't great.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (02:32:38):
Ye. Well, let'sen brain, good stuff, man, enjoy your rivalry. Saturday,
the great weekend of football. All right, great stuff, buddy,
Thank you.

Speaker 7 (02:32:48):
I'll see you guys next week.

Speaker 5 (02:32:49):
Thank you out there here. He is the brain, a man,
the brain at Brad's best bets.

Speaker 2 (02:32:55):
All right, we're gonna take a quick til we'll come
back and sell as a wrap it up. Coming up next,
fellas Jason Fitz, Anthony Gargan right here on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 6 (02:33:07):
the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsportsradio dot
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Speaker 5 (02:33:24):
Go ahead, FITZI.

Speaker 3 (02:33:27):
Nobody does it better than Frank. I can't. You know,
nobody does. Like I think I might. I might try
and record a version of this next year. Like every
time I do this, I hear this, I think you
know what.

Speaker 4 (02:33:36):
I'm just gonna write out a big orchestral arrangement and
have a big orchestra play behind me and sing it.

Speaker 3 (02:33:42):
It feels like a life moment.

Speaker 4 (02:33:45):
Might need a record label to get involved, though that's
gonna be a lot of money recordless somebody somebody like, look,
there's no money in you label for it, Like cause
I'm not gonna sell any records really, But if somebody
wants to go ahead and fund me putting a massive
orchestra behind me to.

Speaker 3 (02:33:58):
Do my way, I would do that.

Speaker 5 (02:34:00):
You would be awesome.

Speaker 3 (02:34:01):
Man, give me a big machine. Let's go, let's go big.

Speaker 5 (02:34:03):
I like it.

Speaker 3 (02:34:04):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (02:34:05):
You would be outrageous. That's fantastic. All right, As we
get ready to did.

Speaker 5 (02:34:15):
You see Andrew Luck?

Speaker 2 (02:34:17):
Yes, so Andrew Luck returning to Stanford to become the
program's GM. As that now the GM is making a
run in the college football and Stanford brings back Andrew Luck.

Speaker 5 (02:34:35):
Pretty interesting.

Speaker 4 (02:34:37):
Yeah, And it looks like according to Schefty's report, he's
going to be running as a true GM, so he'll
be working not only on the coaching staff, but also
on uh, you know, the roster and the nil and
then he's going to be doing some team president type
functions with fundraising. Like this isn't all inclusive, all in
Andrew luck finding a full time job essentially that he's

(02:34:58):
going to be committing himself to the like it's a
huge lift. But I can't think of a lot of
people more you know, associated with Stanford.

Speaker 3 (02:35:06):
To do this, So it makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 5 (02:35:08):
It does it fits? You know, it really does it fits?

Speaker 3 (02:35:11):
Well?

Speaker 5 (02:35:14):
Yeah, I like it.

Speaker 7 (02:35:15):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (02:35:16):
Give me what you're most excited about this Weekend's.

Speaker 4 (02:35:23):
That stuff because there's so many good games coming over
the course of this weekend. But I do think I
mean Texas Texas A and M we've talked a lot
about is a big game. Obviously, that's exciting. I mentioned
earlier you UNLV taking on Nevada this weekend. Not a
big rivalry. Well it is a big rivalry, but not
a big game for them. But they got to win it,
and if they win it, they control their own destiny
trying to get to.

Speaker 3 (02:35:43):
The college football playoffs. So that's obviously incredible.

Speaker 4 (02:35:46):
But look, it's rare that you get a regular season
game that you look at it and say, man, this
is a true line in the sand. Where are these
two teams? And Eagles Ravens tomorrow? Is just it's rare
that we get that. It's you know, we got two conferences,
two powerhouses going at it. I think it's a real
way to see how these two teams.

Speaker 3 (02:36:05):
Will shape up for the playoff. That's the best week
game of the weekend.

Speaker 5 (02:36:08):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 2 (02:36:09):
It's got you know, it's got everything. Man, It's it's
it's just too such a I'm curious because you know,
I love the Eagles O line. I love the Eagles. Obviously,
their run game is is ridiculous and their pass game
is is very complementary to it. We'll see about Devonte Smith,

(02:36:32):
but you know, against the Ravens, I you know, who
are really good against the run, and Roquan Smith is
banged up for Baltimore, I like to see the Eagles
stick with the run.

Speaker 5 (02:36:44):
Like I know that people go, well, let's make it,
you know, let's say make it a hurts game.

Speaker 2 (02:36:49):
Why making them say I think you could run the
ball against anybody like you but you know the Eagles
O line and say kwal Barkley, I think that that
to me, I'll put it up against any defense out there.

Speaker 3 (02:37:04):
Yeah, And I think that's to your point.

Speaker 4 (02:37:07):
NFL teams when they are as good as the Eagles
are are there's a fine line between looking at it
and saying, all right, this is a weakness for our opponent,
so let's exploit that weakness. Of course you do that,
but also you do step in and say, I don't
care what the strength of our opponent is.

Speaker 3 (02:37:23):
This is who we are. We do what we do.
And as fans sometimes I think we sit here and
think that, oh man, I'm gonna change the whole game
plan because we're taking on this or we're taking on that.
That's just not real.

Speaker 4 (02:37:34):
I think the honest, real answer here is if you
are Baltimore, you got to go out and be the
truest version of yourself. If you're the Eagles, you got
to go out and be the truest version of themselves.
And that's where the real opportunity is. I think to
see strength and strength again, I will stress to everybody
Baltimore's defense is bad, but Baltimore's run defense is not.
So Saquon goes off for one hundred and fifty yards

(02:37:54):
against this version of the Ravens defense. That's significant. And
that's also, by the way, I think what the Eagles
want in order to win games throughout the course of
the rest of the season in the playoffs.

Speaker 7 (02:38:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:38:05):
Man, that's where that's who you are and you're and
you're Baltimore. You know, same thing.

Speaker 2 (02:38:10):
He starts with Canry and Lamar and it should be awesome,
should be great stuff. By the way, I want to
thank Mighty Mark did a great job. Brianna our producer,
we love them and they did a great job as
always with the show. FITZI, what do you got cooking today?

Speaker 4 (02:38:29):
Well, man, Yahoo's got me working. It's all college football,
college football and Christmas desserts.

Speaker 5 (02:38:33):
Let's go, let's go. I love everybody, have a great day.
We love you guys. See you next week.

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