Steve Hartman and Monse Bolanos Debate if the NFL has Lost Excitement This Season

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Speaker 3 (00:32):
You know, they got very busy schedules.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Me I'm just you know, always ready to jump in
and so Moncie and I'll be here over the next
four hours. We got the one game going on right now,
which is this Army Navy game, which Navy surprising Army.
Remember Army came into this game with an eleven to
one record, having won the AA SED Championship game last week.
But you can throw all that all out anytime you

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have a rivalry game. Oh yeah, And then of course
later on this evening they will announce the winner of
the Heisman Trophy.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
Huh, do you have a vote?

Speaker 3 (01:04):
I do have a vote. Now you let the cat
out of the bag.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
Sorry, sorry, Yeah, that was a secret.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Sorry, it is never a secret to anybody out there.
But yes, I did get my vote in. I still
cannot reveal my vote because well that's that's what they
ask us to do with the Heisman Trust, to remain
silent until the vote is actually announced. Well, we'll find
out tonight who will win this year's Heisman Trophy. For
finalists are in New York having a good time. It's
always good to see. And this is the one thing

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I really love watching the Heisman ceremony is you're reminded
these are college kids, you know, So you got cam Ward, Dylan, Gabriel,
Travis Hunter and Ashton and Genty and they're having a
good time in New York City. And then I love
when they do the interviews with the parents and it
just that's that's what's It's one of the things I

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always have loved about the Heisman ceremony is just to
see mom and dad so proud of their son that
he's there, and how excited they get about chance to well,
it's college football immortality, right.

Speaker 5 (02:06):
It opens a door to a side of them that
we don't see throughout the season. Always see his competitive
guys on the field, right, and then this side is
like our softer side. The family's here and.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
It's all just really sweet to see. But I mean,
we know who won, right, Like everyone's talking about we
all kind of know who won.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Well, it's interesting.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
So they have the Football Award show, by the way,
I used to have like a whole show.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
Now they don't do that the last couple of years.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
They just have the winners who have already been notified
in advance. Yes, in fact that you ever in showing,
like when the coaches would bring him in and tell
me they won the award or they make an announcement
in front of the team that you won this award.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
But Ashton Genty.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Won the Maxwell Award, And I want to say this
about the Maxwell Award with all due respect.

Speaker 5 (02:50):
Yeah, please explain that to me, because there were so
many different awards, and then he Travis Hunter won ap
College Football Player of the Year, but then the Maxwell
Award was.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Also a The Maxwell Award is actually only two years
younger than the Heisman Trophy and it's given out for
the outstanding college football player in the country. It I'll
put it this way, The Maxwell Award is sort of
like the Golden Globe compared to the Oscar.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
Okay, you know it's like Oscar.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Got it Golden Globe. Ice see, and the Maxwell Award
for years because some years they've actually released a vote,
like you know, I don't know anyone that votes for
the Maxwell. I don't know how they have come up
with winners. It's based out of Philadelphia, which it explains
why there have been at least seven Penn State winners

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at the Maxwell Award and there's only been one Penn
State winner of the Heisman Trophy.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
So, you know, any awards nice, but yeah, let's make
it clear.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Winning the Maxwell Award is not an indication in any
way on who is going to win the Heisman Trophy.
And all these awards are nice, but there is one
and only one true prize award in college football, and
that is the Heisman Trophy. And we'll find out the
winner tonight.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
Which I again I think we all know. He also
has a lot of other awards.

Speaker 5 (04:08):
He wont top receiver, defensive defensive player.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
I mean, Ashton Gents was the top running back. Yes,
so yeah, but the way everyone's talking about it, it's
like no question, Well it's.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Gonna again, we'll see how the margin of victory is yes,
and it breaks down. It is a regional award again
because you have six regions and there's an equal distribution
of voters in those six regions. And then of course
you have the former Heisman winners get to vote as well.
So that's all coming up later on, But right now
I want to share a story. Bear with me here

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because every time we get to the Army Navy game,
I had an opportunity Monci here at Fox Sports Radio.
We had an invite to the Army Navy game back
in twenty eleven. And what made the game stand out
was it is today eight the only Army Navy game
that was played in the vicinity of Washington, d C.

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It was played at FedExField in Landover. FedExField, I guess
has a new name now, but FedExField, which was the
home of the then Redskins now Commanders. And what made
the game even more interesting was is that President Obama
and Vice President Biden were going to be on the
field for the pregame festivities. But before we get to

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the game day, to set this up, I have to
talk about what.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
Happened the day before.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
Share with us.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
So we fly and when I say we, me and
my man Victor Brigg Jacobs, partners at Fox Sports Radio
during that time. We flew to d C by the way,
a red eye in which I was in the back row.

Speaker 6 (05:47):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
So a red eye back row where I couldn't actually
go backwards.

Speaker 4 (05:51):
No to the bathroom.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
It was not good.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
But anyway, we get there and the day before the game,
we were offered a free tour of the Capitol Building.
Now this is something I'd done a few times. It
wasn't that I was all that excited to do it,
sort of you know, been there seeing that. But you know,
Vick and I thought, what what that it's free, let's
let's go to the Capitol Building. So we get over
to the Capitol Building and they have these little tours

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going on, and you know, this is post nine to eleven.
Obviously security is tight at the Capitol Building and they
break you up in the little groups of about ten
people in each crew.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
And so we have a tour guide. This one was
a tour guide.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
And before we get started with a tour, she asked everybody,
if you need to go to the bathroom, go now,
because once we're inside the Capitol Building, there's no way.
There's no bathrooms available in the Capitol building to the public.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
We would have to escort you out of the building.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
So I'm looking at Vic because Vic is one of
those guys that always seems the need to go to
the bathroom.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
So I Vic, I said, Vic, you know you heard her?

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Right, Oh, Stevie, I'm good, I'm good, I'm good. All right,
We're good. So now we get on the tour and
now we're in the main rotunda area, and so with
each one of these groups, there's about ten groups scattered
in this huge you know where you're looking up at
the Capitol, you.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
Know, the statues everywhere.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Now, and our woman is talking and all of a sudden, Vic,
who's standing next to me, says to me, sart pokes mean,
he goes, what's that sign on the other side, and
all this I could see like an exit sign, right,
and he starts to walk away, like I know, he
has to go to the BA. So I don't say anything.

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The lady continues to talk. All I'm thinking is.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
Is that.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
We're gonna move on, and Vic is gonna be in
no man's yeah, right, So we're about to move on
to the next location when all of a sudden, I
see Vic running.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
Now you have to understand Victor Brigg.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
He's got the long beard, the long hair, the you know,
the fur hat, you know he's got, He's got his
Victor brick. Look, he is now in a full sprint
across and security people are yelling at.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
Him stop, stop, stop, And I'm like, oh my, this
is unbelieva. And our woman's like, was he in our group?
And I'm like, yeah, did you claim him? I'm like,
I think this guy was standing with us.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Yeah, Well, they escort him out of the building because well,
he had to go to the bathroom, right, So I
wasn't gonna go with him.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
I'm going to finish the tour.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
And when I was done with the tour, it usually
exits in a gift shop, you know, And there was
Vic in the gift shop.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
And did you ask him? So, why didn't you use
the restroom?

Speaker 3 (08:37):
I had a time. I literally said this.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
All right. Now, we get to the game the next day.
It's freezing, obviously it's December. It's cold, and there's a
lot of media members on the field, you know, sort
of hanging out. And I will say this about the
pregame festivities at an Army Navy game. To be on
the field for that spectacular spectacular. I mean, if you

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ever get a chance to attend an Army Navy game,
I would highly recommend it because it is unlike any
college football game experience I'd ever seen. But now we're
waiting around, right because eventually the president and the Vice
president are gonna show up. Well, most of the wimpy
media people are like, you know, it's way too cold.
We're heading up to the press box area and I'm like, no, no, no,

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we're gonna We're gonna battle this out. So Vic and
I are hanging in. I think there was four or
five other guys media members that were like toughing it
out like us. So now it's getting to that time
when the president's about to arrive, vice president about to ride.
So security people are trying to clear everybody into an
area and Vic is classic, right, So Vic, they come

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up to Vic and these are security people. The Secret
Service people haven't shown up yet. They're coming and they're like,
so you're gonna have to move. They're gonna move us
about the forty yard line because the President was going
to be up midfield, which is fine. Vic was like,
oh no, no, no, I'm good. I'm good.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
You know, I know the Navy coach. You know.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
I'm like, so I turn and walk away, and there
these guys are like, what's what's up with your buddy?
I go watch watch this. So we moved to the
forty yard line. We're still waiting. Now come secret service
people are coming on now, the real people, and Vic
is still standing there nice and they're like, sir, you're
going to have to move, and he's like, no, no, no,
I know the Navy coach. It's like.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
Anyway. He finally moves. So now here they come.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
There's President Obama Vice President by Day and hanging right
about ten yards away from us. Right, they make a
right turn, do the midfield thing, you know, toy toss whatever,
and now they're walking off the field. And now I'm happy.
I've said, look we got within ten yards of the president.
That's pretty good. Right, we saw the guy. So now
we're now I'm glad to get off the field because

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it's freezing and there's like this log jam of people
trying to get off the field. Obviously at this point,
all of a sudden, it just stops. I go you
know there, I'm like, what is the hold up here, folks?
And then all of a sudden, the massive people in
front of me splits and coming straight toward me is

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President Obama.

Speaker 6 (11:14):
Nice.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
I'm like, he's heading back.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
So the guys that we were with the other media
members split from Vic and I and they were on
the other side. And he turns the president and starts
shaking hands.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
So I'm thinking okay, And as he starts to turn,
I put my hand out. He walks right up to
me and he shakes my hand. I'm like, nice to
meet you, mister President. And then there's Vic next to
me again with the fur half of the he grabs
the President's hand.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
Feeling new, feeling new, mister President.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
And I'm thinking to myself, this guy was almost arrested
at the Capitol Building. How is he this close to
the President of the United States? How's that? Are you impossible?

Speaker 3 (12:00):
Where's the security?

Speaker 4 (12:01):
Where is the security?

Speaker 2 (12:03):
How does this guy get to shake the hand of
the president after almost being arrested in the Capitol Building yesterday?
So as we're walking off the field, now the guy
we started re hook up with the guys that had
been standing there. One of them says, I may have
gotten a picture with you. No, do you see it

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on the far right, my hand extended and the brick.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
I'm the president.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
His turn right there, and he clicked his picture and
sent it to me. Amazing, Is that it?

Speaker 7 (12:35):
There it is.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
You can see my hand extended, and he's about he's
turning to look at me.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
There's Vic Vick.

Speaker 4 (12:40):
Yeah, no, Vic is very president.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
How did that guy get anywhere near the president?

Speaker 2 (12:45):
But there it is? And uh so I have the
picture forever. That's pretty awesome story from an Army Navy game.

Speaker 5 (12:52):
Yes, no, that's amazing. And the fact that you have
a picture, like, what are the chances of that?

Speaker 2 (12:56):
The guy, the guy with one of these meeting guys,
was just clicking pictures. He goes, I think I might
have actually gotten a picture of you.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
And he looked through his thing and busy and sent
it to me. And that was that amazing.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
But how did it get that closed?

Speaker 4 (13:09):
No, that's a really good question.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
He was almost arrested at the Capitol Building. All right,
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Army right now, fourteen seven. Got about four minutes to
go in the first half of that game. And then
of course later on today the big college football news
will come out of New York the winner of this
year's Heisman Trophy. We got a big NFL weekend. We're

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going to get to all the NFL news. Also, Mark Medina,
our Fox Sports Radio NBA insider is going to be
joining us. Are you excited about the final four in
the NBA Cup?

Speaker 5 (14:38):
I mean no, but sure, Like you know, I like basketball,
even though the product sucks right now, I'm excited that
the Hawks are in it, you know, a weird way.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
I like Dre Young. I'm excited that the Hawks are
in it.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
Well, I'm curious.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Obviously they got a major name sponsor now of the Emirates,
and so they're really really.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
Pushing it hard.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
And the question is just what kind of impact, if any,
is the NBA Cup half So we'll have Mark Mendida
and joining us coming up here at the bottom of
the Aaron Torre is going to be join us as
we get ready for the college football playoffs.

Speaker 4 (15:15):
I asked him early this time.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Yes, And then later on the show, Adam Kaplan will
be joining us and the return of Who's Your Daddy?

Speaker 5 (15:26):
That's right, very excited the return of Who's Your Daddy.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
If you don't know the story, you will find out
stay tuned for that. All right, let's talk about this
Bill Belichick situation in which he accepted a five year
deal to be the new head coach at the University
of North Carolina, calling it his dream job, dream job.
And let's let's be as honest as possible exactly what

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happened here. So last year you had Belichick fired by
the Patriots.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
He was fired.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
This was not a mutual party in of ways.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
He was fired.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
He didn't voluntarily leave. He got fired and probably for
good reason because post Tom Brady was not kind to
Belichick and they completely excuse me.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
Bottom it out.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
In twenty twenty three, there were seven NFL job openings
last year. He got interviewed for one Atlanta. Yeah, and
they hired Raheem Morris instead.

Speaker 9 (16:38):
Ye'ah.

Speaker 4 (16:39):
I wonder how they're feeling now.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
Well, I don't know, huh, but why is that?

Speaker 2 (16:43):
You're like, wait, whoa, whoa. We're talking about a guy
that won how many Super Bowls?

Speaker 1 (16:47):
You know.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
I think it's a really simple answer that these owners
wanted to change because it's like he's been around for
so long and maybe they just wanted to find the
new hot shiny to.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
Raheem Marris was not a hot shot, any new toy.

Speaker 5 (17:03):
But you get what I'm saying, Like, I really think
it's something that simple.

Speaker 4 (17:06):
The same thing with like the Patriots, they are like.

Speaker 5 (17:08):
This is done, this story, it's come to its end,
Like we need to just change things up. And because
I mean, Bill Belichick is hold seventy wait he's seventy two.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
Now, well, I think the bigger problem was no NFL
team wanted to give him the kind of control that
he demands, which is what he had in New England
and which, by the way, is what he'll have at
the University of North Carolina. The bottom line is is
that he wasn't going to get an NFL job.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
Now it's coming out that he was sniffing around.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
The Jets job, which is interesting because of his history
with Woody Johnson. As you know, he accepted an unaccepted
the Jets job one day later when he took the
New England job, So some bad blood there. But I
just I think this is reality check the reason that

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he is not And by the way, he's thirteen wins
shy of Shula. Yeah, yeah, you don't think he wants
that record.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
Of course he does.

Speaker 4 (18:10):
Of course he does, but.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
No one wants to give him the power that he
demands to be a head coach in the NFL. And
it's not happening with anyone. There are no there's gonna
be plenty of job openings after this season. Why why
is he taking the North Carolina job Because he's not
going to get those NFL jobs?

Speaker 4 (18:26):
Yeah, so why not change it up?

Speaker 5 (18:29):
Same idea I think with the whole NFL. And you said, like,
no one's going to give him all of this power.
I think it's also people just are like, let's move
on from that era, right, Like again, a new, shiny
era is what sounds better, I guess in the NFL
since they dominated it for so long. And yeah, he's

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probably not gonna get what he wants in college, they're
giving him kind of what he wants.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
Okay, he's in front. He's in for a root awakening.

Speaker 7 (19:02):
Now.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
The history is that his father, who was a longtime
assistant coach at Navy, I think thirty four years his
father was at the Naval Academy as an assistant back
all the way back to the time when Joe Blino
and Roger Staubach won Heisman trophies in the sixties playing
at Navy when maybe really had some really good teams.

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But prior to that, his dad in the mid fifties
had been an assistant coach at North Carolina for three
years when Belichick would have been very young, really like
a baby young. So he's trying to draw these connections
and everything else. I dare say, with the landscape of
anil transfer portal, that you have even less control now

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at the college level than you have at the pro level.

Speaker 5 (19:52):
There's no way Bill Belichick is not aware of the situation,
and but he obviously hears how difficult it is.

Speaker 4 (20:02):
Nick Saban has said it. So I'm going to assume
that he's going to surround himself with people who know
what they're doing, and that he's going in there wondering, Huh,
Let's see if I can do something in college. Let's see,
this deal is three.

Speaker 5 (20:17):
Years guaranteed, four and five are not guaranteed, right so,
and then you.

Speaker 4 (20:21):
Know his son is also part of this deal in
a way.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Well, there's been a speculation that he wants to open
the door to hand it off to his son.

Speaker 5 (20:30):
That type who already has coaching. He I think works
for the commanders right now. Right he's currently in the NFL,
not working for the commanders, says Martin.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
Oh you Sai At the University of Washington.

Speaker 5 (20:40):
University of Washington, that's what it is. See, I thought
it was the NFL. So he's at the University of Washington.

Speaker 6 (20:45):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (20:46):
I just imagine imagining red Bill Belichick, and you've literally
done everything you could do in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (20:52):
Why not see what you can do in college?

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Why not try? I mean pretty much it expels any
opportunity for he's done with the NFL.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
Make that fact.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Because of this move, he is now eligible for induction
into the Pro Football Hall of Fame next year.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
Great, he's not coming back now.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
Joe Gibbs got into the Hall of Fame, went in
the NASCAR for years, and then Washington brought him back
for four years. I guess that's possible. But again, we're
talking about a man into his mid seventies. Now.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
The NFL is not going to hire Belichick.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
Yeah, no one is going to. He's done with the NFL.
I don't know what he's gonna do. I think that
the frustration level that obviously was a tipping point for
Nick Saban, who had been at it forever, and obviously
he and Nick are very close friends. Back when Belichick
was the coach of the Cleveland Browns. His first head
coaching job in the NFL. His defensive coordinator was Nick Saban,

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and so they have a long history together, very dear friendship.
But I'm sure Nick explained to him why he decided
it was time for him to get out of.

Speaker 4 (21:51):
The game, right, and so, knowing this information and he
still did it.

Speaker 5 (21:54):
Why she's gonna bring Nick Saban onto his coaching staff
and it's gonna be a one to two punch. Everyone,
don't destroy my hopes and dreams here, because that would
be absolutely wonderful. A lot of discourse was also like
these young kids, young guys are not gonna want to
play for Belichick, and that.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
I non believe.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
Well, first of all, he has a twenty four year
old girlfriend.

Speaker 5 (22:15):
Yes, also that, But I feel like these young kids,
their dads, their uncles, their older brothers, gonna be like, bro,
go play for Bill Belichick. He is a direct connection
to the NFL and all of these important people.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
He is the closest connection you're gonna have.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
So what he said is a dream job.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
Again, this is a seventy two year old man with
a twenty four to twenty five year old girlfriend, and
I'm thinking, Wow, it is a dream job. Once you
walk onto that campus, a lot of co eds, a
lot of co eds.

Speaker 5 (22:47):
Maybe the girlfriend will become like a cheerleader or something.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Look, I don't have any ill will toward Belichick, but
let's be honest. The reason he's at North Carolina is
that he had no opportunities in the NFL none, zero,
and he wanted to coach again.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
Oh and make, by the way, ten million dollars a year.

Speaker 4 (23:10):
About that, so.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
It'll be a pretty good deal for him.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
All right, let's find out what is trending right now.
Mark Medina will join us on the other side. But first,
Martin is in the house. Martin, how are you today?

Speaker 3 (23:21):
Man?

Speaker 10 (23:22):
Well, Bill Belichick, they said the youth, the kids wouldn't
want to.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
Play for you. Well, one kid does east Ford sight.

Speaker 10 (23:29):
North Carolina senior quarterback Brice Baker announced his commitment to
the recently hired University of North Carolina football coach Bill
Belichick and the Tar Hills. Baker was committed to Mac
Brown that after Brown and the university parted ways. The
eighth or length quarterback in twenty twenty five took an
official visit devent State had significant interest to LSU, but

(23:49):
after Thursday, he got a call from the goat coach
in the NFL decided he was sticking around Chapel Hill,
Steve Wow.

Speaker 11 (23:58):
So what is your prediction?

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Martn't about his future in North Carolina. It had one
ten win season. I believe in the last twenty five.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
Years, I think he will be successful. Really, yes, So.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
It'll be the Tom Brady Belichick, not the post Tom
Brady Belichick.

Speaker 10 (24:13):
I think, well, I just think the things that make
the NFL football hard, like parody and the salary cap,
they don't exist in the in college football.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
So I think that, well, one thing that does exist,
you got to get the players, period.

Speaker 10 (24:29):
The idea that selling a kid that especially a kid
that maybe let's say you were at Ohio State and
you were starting at wide receiver as a sophomore and
then all of a sudden, Jeremiah Smith combs or same
at Alabama and Ryan Williams coms and Bill Belizill tells you, hey,
right now you're an afterthought in college football.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
I can make you a second our pick. I can
make you a first round pick.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
You think his name still resonates with a eighteen nineteen
year old kid, absolutely, And.

Speaker 11 (24:57):
If he doesn't.

Speaker 10 (24:58):
I don't think eighteen nine year old kids are made
making these decisions all the same way. Like when I
was eighteen and nineteen years old, I was doing what
my dad told me to do, exactly, and my dad
would have told me to go play.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
For Belichick, Yes, exactly.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
Well it depends.

Speaker 10 (25:11):
If Kirby Swart was offering like five million more, I'd
be like, go dogs.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
But that's it.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
You don't have anymore even or what no, I mean,
there's a long list of scores, right, No, there's not
a long list of scores at all. All right, Martin,
thank you very much. Well there's one score.

Speaker 10 (25:32):
Yeah, Army Navy, Yeah, Navy fourteen Army seven going into
the first half, had nearing the end of the first half,
one twenty five lefts there you go.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Okay, Ucla, by the way, playing Arizona in a non
conference game, remember, and they're in two different conferences. Now
Arizona leading in that game on a neutral court in Phoenix,
forty two to thirty six are in the second half
of that game. Nobody have accept me to say, this
is national radio. I understand what Arizona Ucla basketball used
to be a pretty big rivalry.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
I think back in the day.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
Maybe a guy that would know a little bit about
that is our Fox Sports Radio NBA insider Mark Medina
is joining us.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
Mark, thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Try to explain to Martin here that you Stela Arizona
basketball rivalry has some substance to it over the years.

Speaker 12 (26:19):
Yeah, I mean it's one of the premier rivalries in
college bathtball. Now, I will say, Steve, it can't match
Syracuse Georgetown because of my Syracuse ties, but you know
it is up there with Syrakese Shorgetown, do QNC. I mean,
this would just come out of nowhere. They have a
lot of pac Time history.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
Yeah, it's just weird. It's a non conference game. Obviously,
these two schools in different conferences. Now, all right, so
Mark here, we are got to the semi finals of
the NBA Cup. I don't want to sound totally cynical
on this one, because I addressed this when it was
announced that the NBA Cup was happening last year that
this was the worst idea of all time. And of course,

(27:00):
the only coach ever to win the NBA Cup got fired.
I imagine, you know, Darmenham must have come in when
he had his postseason, we're going to say, well, whoa,
I won the NBA Cup.

Speaker 11 (27:11):
We have a banner.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
See that banner that was me, and that that head
did not pull enough way for him to keep his
job with the Lakers.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
So just give us a little over you.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
You know, with Emirates now as a name sponsor, obviously
paying a zillion dollars, the promotion for the NBA Cup
this year has been ten times what it was a
year ago.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
Are they happy with the product right now?

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Are they seeing any kind of growth in viewership for
these NBA Cup matchups? What is the current state of
this NBA Cup?

Speaker 12 (27:44):
Well, Steve, to build off of your point about how
much different last year's Cup is to now just think
about Lebron James's basket and a champagne celebration last year,
and all of a sudden, now he's saying it doesn't matter.
I think I want to say it's the worst idea ever,
but it also doesn't fundamentally solve the regular season issues.

(28:04):
I think at the net pub it's nice. I think
the games have been mostly competitive. There has been a
reason for both the hardcore and the casual fan to
pay attention to the NBA after Opening Night buzz and
Christmas Day games. But I think when you're looking at
the second year, they're anticipating to decline. I mean, you
look at the matchups itself, Milwaukee, Atlanta, Oklahoma City, Houston.

(28:28):
I think those are all good games, but they're not
high market teams and so the per ticket prices have
dropped a lot. I'm sure the ratings will drop a lot.
I was on a conference call with Evan wash who's
one of the NBA league officials that have been overseen
the NBA Cup, and you know, he acknowledged that there's
been a rating step compared to last season. You know,
even though that they've been generally satisfied with there being

(28:51):
a seven percent increase of NBA Cup games versus the
regular season games, they're still operating on a deficit on
I think the casual and frankly the hardcore fans to
tune in day in and day out. And it's just
fascinating where they go from here. Because Las Vegas was
seen as a natural site for this to happen because

(29:13):
it's been the home of Summer League that could be
a future you know, NBA expansion team. But Evan Wah
said on record that Vegas might not be the host
site moving forward. There's a multitude of possibilities, whether it's international,
maybe another neutral site, or home you know, home markets.
But if I had my drothers, I think they go

(29:35):
to another potential expansion market with Seattle because they've been
starving for a franchise for a while. I think that
the Sonics do come back in some form at some point,
and there will be a lot of fans that would
be interested in going there, regardless of the matchup.

Speaker 4 (29:50):
Mark Hi Hi Hi joining us.

Speaker 5 (29:54):
Yes, I have really so many questions that after I'm
done talking to you here, I'm gonna text.

Speaker 4 (29:58):
You because we're not going to have enough time. Part
of yeah, part of the issue that I have. You know,
I love basketball, but the product right now is hard
to watch.

Speaker 5 (30:07):
I don't want to see the Celtics taking sixty threes.

Speaker 4 (30:11):
I don't want to see that every single game.

Speaker 5 (30:14):
Do you think that they're just like fashion that there
is a chance that the style of play in basketball
is going to go back to a more post up
defense versus just everyone's just shooting threes. Like I it
sucks because if you're playing the Celtics and you're losing
and they're all making threes. Because they have so many shooters,
you feel the need that you have to shoot threes.

Speaker 4 (30:34):
And then I just see back and forth ten threes
being thrown up, two.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Of them go in.

Speaker 12 (30:40):
It is a very fascinating question answer. I don't think
that we're going to go back in time to the
nineteen eighties nineteen nineties with how much post to play
there was and how few threes there were. But I
want to be surprised that the NBA addresses is so
much achieved a happy medium, and it's not going to
be so much about limiting teams how many threes you
can do, because you know, the NBA doesn't want to

(31:01):
overtly impose how a team plays, but they have a
competition committee, they can legislate rules, and so that's the
way that they can change how the games are played.
Let's take last year for example, A little bit secretly
and not so secretly, there was an edict to the
NBA officials to not reward every little hand contact with

(31:22):
the trips of the free throw line, and as a result,
it made the game flow a lot better. I want
to be surprised that that happens moving forward. You rewind
a few decades ago, you know, there was a huge
emphasis on eliminating a hand check rule and allowing illegal
defenses so that there would be more high scoring. And
so the NBA they do legislate for better and for worse,

(31:45):
like the government, where they're not going to have direct
involvement in how games played, but they can be de
facto referee and kind of put things out there that
are incentives so that teams adjust.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
The Lakers are always the news as you have Lebron James.

Speaker 4 (32:02):
What are you talking about?

Speaker 3 (32:03):
Well, here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
So Lebron James had said before the season mark that
he wanted to play eighty two games, so that ended
and the course yesterday he didn't play. The lost to Minnesota.
This is not a good team right now. They're sitting
in the ten spot in the NBA. And this is
after a ten and four start where all of a
sudden some fans were getting excited. I think JJ Reddick

(32:24):
was getting excited. But whatever message he delivered early on
seems to have already fallen off the map.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
Where are we going with this franchise right now?

Speaker 2 (32:33):
They are they going to make any deals do they
have any moving pieces where they can make a deal.
Is this Lebron's last year? You know, I get the
whole Bronny thing. We talked about the Brownny thing. It
was a gimmick and you know, they got the photo
op in the first game and that was it and
that we're not going anywhere else with that.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
But I mean, where exactly is this franchise headed.

Speaker 12 (32:58):
They're operating on day to day? I guess like we
all are, but here it's just so fluid. And with
Lebron James, I think that he hasn't ruled anything out
on whether this is his last season or not. But
if I had a guess, I think he plays one
more year and goes through the farewell tour. The second
part to the broader questions, they make a trade before

(33:18):
the trade deadline. The Lakers would certainly like to, and
let's be clear to listeners here, the Lakers aren't necessarily
beholden to both of their two first round picks in
twenty nine and twenty thirty one. It's just a matter
of can they find a deal that entice the teams
enough to make an offer to accept an offer with

(33:39):
those rack picks as well, as any combination of some
of their role players. The Lakers don't necessarily don't want
to gut the roster so much that they don't have
a complete basketball team, but no one's untouchable. But the
problem is we've seen a lot of inconsistency for their
role players for a reason because their role players and
so how that plays on the out on the marketplace

(34:00):
lends the same kind of unpredictability, and that's the predicament
that they're in right now. They want to make moves,
but they might not have the exact assets needed to
make such a move.

Speaker 4 (34:10):
I mean, we got to ask about Lebron specifically here
before we let you go. First it was a foot issue,
then it was he's tired, personal reasons, and then the
latest JJ Reddick has asked when is he going to
join the team because on MI understand is he didn't
travel and he said he didn't know, Yeah, what is happening?

Speaker 12 (34:28):
Well, Moncay, look all these things might be all tied together.
Now we don't exactly know what the personal reasons are,
but the injury itself lends a concern because he's about
to turn forty in sixteen days. He's in his twenty
second season, we've seen signs of him wearing down. I
was asking JJ Reddick earlier this week about what has

(34:49):
been the first month or two months of takeaways of
what it's been like as a stack with managing his workload,
and he said that the communication has been there, but
he conceded that Bronze has asked out of the game
a few times, you know, being subped out, and that
he's looked gas And very rarely do you hear a
coach talk about an NBA star asking to be subbed

(35:12):
out and conceding fatigue. So this injury is serious. It's
a left foot. It is day to day. But when
he returns is anyone's guest. It could be as early
as tomorrow against Memphis. And if there is you know,
a quote unquote silver lining, he did have, you know,
over a week to heal. If he misses Sunday's game
against Memphis, they don't play again until Thursday in Sacramento.

(35:35):
But regardless the fact of where he's at in his
career and the fact that we've seen his turnovers go up,
his three point shooting go down, and it's fatigue still
being there, a lot of reasons to be concerned about
Lebron these days.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
If you're the Lakers, well, Mark, we'll.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
See if the tears flow. Whichever team wins the NBA
Cup this week in Las Vegas, it's going to be
very much a lot of champagne, a lot of celebration.
Mark is always you're the absolute best. We always appreciate
the time. Thank you so much.

Speaker 12 (36:05):
Well, I have to say to you, Steve and Monsea.
You guys are the Apple Blue Fest on Saturdays on
Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
Thank you very much. The great Mark Medina joining us
right there.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
Once again, we're live from the Tireraq dot com studios.
All right, coming up on the other side, we got
a couple of little college football notes we got to
get to because, yeah, we got a playoff coming up.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
This is Fox Football Saturday.

Speaker 1 (36:29):

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Steve Harman, Montci Belagas Here Fox Football Saturday. We are
live from the tire Raq dot Com studios.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
Well, next Saturday, we're gonna have.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
Three playoff games in college football. The playoff actually begins
on Friday. Uh, they'll have the Notre Dame game on Friday,
I believe, and then three games on Saturday. I know,
we haven't started the games yet and we'll see how
these games layout.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
But I have to.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
Say this, I think that the process to pick the
team's works. I've always maintained, and this is back when
they had the four school playoff, that if you don't
win your conference championship. Remember there were five power conferences
at that time and only four slots. I kept thinking,

(37:21):
if you if you're not winning your conference championship, you
should not even be in the conversation. And yet we
had I think one year with Ohio State, another year
with Alabama where they didn't even get to their conference
championship game, and somehow they were put in the field
of four. The idea that the four highest ranked conference

(37:46):
champions get the buy.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
And think about Boise.

Speaker 4 (37:51):
Yeah, that's the one, right, you only have.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
Four power conferences, obviously with the Pac twelve not there,
and yet Boise State is ahead of the Big twelve
champion and the ACC champion, so they're only behind Oregon
and Georgia. So you know, and everyone recognizing the Big
Ten and the SEC as the power power conferences. But

(38:14):
for Boise State, with their Heisman finalist Ashton Genty, I'm
a fan of hisay, we know, yeah, to get that
third seed, that's pretty impressive.

Speaker 4 (38:33):
That is pretty impressive.

Speaker 5 (38:34):
But I feel like that's I think what people have
a little bit of a problem with that. They don't
think they should have been seated as high as they
were even though they won their conference.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
Well, I mean, did they believe that Clemson should be
ranked ahead of them or Arizona.

Speaker 4 (38:52):
State, Arizona State that should be ranked ahead of well
story I mean.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
Okay, Boise State lost one game all road by three
points in Eugene against the number one team Oregon, which.

Speaker 5 (39:02):
We talked about, but they also talked about the rest
of their schedule right that who else did they play?
But you and I have agreed that that game against Oregon,
even though they lost, it was a good loss.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
Well, if you watched ACC football this year or watched
Big twelve football, how good was it? I mean, when
you look at the Big twelve, two teams Arizona State
and Colorado, who were also rans a year ago in
the Pac twelve, turned out to be powers moving into
that new conference. And by the way, those teams moving

(39:33):
into that conference, how did Oklahoma State, a long time
contender in the Big twelve?

Speaker 3 (39:38):
Fair this year, they didn't win a conference game. So no,
I think that Boise State.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
I give the committee credit that they rewarded them, not
only them, but SMU is AA yeah totally and said
I'm sorry Alabama, you got blown out by Vanderbilt. You
got blown out by a six and six Oklahoma team.
You don't belong in this tournament, all right. So we
got a lot of excitement on the college football scene.

(40:06):
We all said, had an NFL game this week?

Speaker 3 (40:08):
I don't believe.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Yes, we'll talk about it here on Fox Football Saturday.

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Speaker 3 (40:38):
Aaron Torres, legendary.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
Fox Sports radio host, will be joining us for I
believe the fourth consecutive time. Yes, but this time instead
of literally calling him at the last second like can
you come on like in two minutes, which he did,
which he has done every week. He has had fair
warnings first time.

Speaker 6 (40:58):
Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 5 (40:59):
Yeah, Yeah, so he's yeah, he's prepared this time.

Speaker 3 (41:03):
Well, he's always prepared, but he'll be more than more.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
I'm actually watching Ucla Arizona and UCLA has suddenly cut
this Arizona lead to two with four minutes left.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
I'm the little Preoca.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
Yeah. They don't have much offense, but their defense is
really really good. This year, all right, Thursday was was
not good for the NFL. So you have the Rams
and the forty nine Ers, and these are two good teams.
At least they were playoff teams. A year ago. Forty
nine Ers went overtime in the Super Bowl against the Chiefs.

(41:37):
And when you have primetime games, especially the Thursday game,
because you know it's on Amazon Prime, and you know,
there's been a lot said about whether or not Al
Michaels is mailing it in, he doesn't seem to have
any rapport with herb Street. I mean, Kirk kirb Street
is great on college football, but doesn't seem to have

(41:57):
There's just there's something about that broadcast. It just really
has not been humming. And then some of the matchups
you know that it depends. It's you get a good game,
you get a bad game. But to have that kind
of a game six field goals prime time, where people
are paying money on Amazon Prime to watch these games,

(42:20):
is not good for the NFL. Now, Is this an
aberration or have been? There have been some signs, at
least to me that much of this NFL season has
not been as entertaining as recent years. Is it just

(42:44):
me or does it seem like we've had less entertaining
games this season than over the last few seasons.

Speaker 4 (42:55):
I don't know if I agree with you on that.
To be honest with you, I wonder if it's because
the Chiefs are winning the way that.

Speaker 5 (43:05):
They are, for one ugly, literally begging teams to beat them,
and nobody can do it.

Speaker 4 (43:12):
So I think maybe that's part of the story.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
I'm sorry, I just want to add something to this.
This is, of course, a guy that you know is
for sure whose team has had Itrilliant, I'm sorry. I
did not mean to trip up this show. I was like, what, God,
I figured if there was somebody that was going to
disagree with this argument, it probably be him.

Speaker 13 (43:37):
Go ahead, because least I'm a you know me I'm
a football slappy.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
This is my sport.

Speaker 13 (43:43):
Like I do, I think, what's what's happening here? For
Steve Monci, this is a really like top heavy year
for the NFL. There's a lot of there's a lot
of top teams that have been winning a tremendous amount
of games, especially in the NFC, and then you've got
everyone else who's like a collective across league somehow five

(44:03):
and everyone else is like five and seven at best.
The NFC one seed last year was twelve and five.
Right now, the Detroit Lions are twelve and one, and
if they lose even a single game, the Eagles and
Vikings are right there to take their place as we
head down the stretch. So we have these like top
heavy leaders in that regard. But then you look at

(44:25):
teams like the Cowboys and the Giants and the Bengals
and teams who have like who have just you know
they're not going to the playoffs. But yet we're still
getting a Monday night game with Cowboys and Bengals.

Speaker 3 (44:36):
But that was a very fancy Well here's here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
So Chris Montcee, Bo Rich and I we sit here
every Sunday with these games we have seven and veck
we have another seven game lineup coming up tomorrow, and
it just seemed like this past week we sat there
with seven and how many of those games mattered?

Speaker 13 (44:55):
These one PM slates have been brutal in the last couple.

Speaker 3 (44:59):
I mean, it's it's it's been like, that's what I mean.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
Why do we have Why do we have so many
dog matchups dog teams.

Speaker 3 (45:07):
In the NFL this year?

Speaker 2 (45:08):
It just seems like they're more of them than there
have been in the recent past.

Speaker 5 (45:14):
Yeah, Chris is onto something that it is top heavy,
and then we have teams that I think we expected
them to be.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
Good, like the forty nine Ers or the Cowboys, or
the Bengals.

Speaker 4 (45:24):
Or the Bengals, and then there's just they have been
so disappointing to watch. And so maybe that's what's what
you're talking about as to why you feel that it
hasn't been as necessarily as exciting.

Speaker 5 (45:35):
But I bet you if you talk to Bills fans,
they disagree with you. You talk to Lions fans, they disagree
with you. They're having a great year.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
Well again, I understand Thursday was an aberrage. We don't
not every game just as field calls.

Speaker 3 (45:48):
Okay, I mean it was that.

Speaker 4 (45:49):
Game was bad. It was really even about the field goals.
It was just bad.

Speaker 5 (45:53):
We just saw the Steelers and the Browns in that
snow game.

Speaker 4 (45:58):
Low scoring game, but I enjoy that game.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
Oh yeah, well, I mean the weather also added to.

Speaker 11 (46:03):
It the game.

Speaker 6 (46:04):
Yeah, this was bad.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
Yeah, that was that was really bad.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
And and brock Purty, I'm anxious to see where the
forty nine ers go from here.

Speaker 4 (46:14):
What the decision is with brock Purty.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
Well, what we know about brock Purty is that he
is morphing into Jimmy Garoppolo. No, don't say that.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
If you look at it's very interesting.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
A lot of people look at Jimmy Garoppolo's numbers, right,
and Jimmy Garoppolo won a lot more games than he
lost during his course of being a starting quarterback. But
Jimmy Garoppolo's numbers were almost identical to the numbers that
we saw from brock Purty. Almost identical. Now, last year,
brock Purty's first full season, you know, he was top

(46:46):
five in the MVP voting, led his team all the
way to the Super Bowl, and people are dismissing the
idea that Okay, he's just a product of the system,
that you know, this guy is legitimate, and then you
start the year without mccaff you know, had the contract situation,
that he got hurt. They've had injuries all over the place,
and all of a sudden, you're watching Brock Purty. I mean,

(47:08):
he missed a couple of throws in that game on
Thursday that were bad misses.

Speaker 5 (47:13):
I mean, I think we have learned that Brock cannot
play very well in the rain.

Speaker 4 (47:18):
The rain is a big part of it. I feel
like we've he's had experiences like this in rain games
where we see that he can't do as well.

Speaker 5 (47:27):
I don't know if that's across for most quarterbacks. I
can imagine playing in the rain, everything slips out.

Speaker 4 (47:32):
Of your hands.

Speaker 5 (47:32):
But the forty nine ers situation this year, it's hard
to believe the on and off the field issues that
they've had, not just like what the what you mentioned,
but like Ricky Piersoll being shot in the chest, and
that that players having issues with their family and losing children.

Speaker 4 (47:50):
Like there's so much bad stuff that.

Speaker 5 (47:53):
Have happened to the forty nine Ers this season that
it's hard for me to want to use this example,
this sample as how I'm gonna judge brock Party. It's
hard for me because of everything that the Niners have
gone through.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
Well, I guess the question is is this fixable for
the forty nine ers?

Speaker 14 (48:09):
Well?

Speaker 2 (48:09):
No, no, is it over for the.

Speaker 4 (48:12):
Forty nine ers? This forty nine ers team is over?

Speaker 2 (48:16):
Well that's that's not good because they've got they got
a lot of money tied up in these contracts.

Speaker 5 (48:21):
I've got several players making over fifteen million a year
that they have to figure out who are getting older,
also that nobody's getting younger, and then you have to
decide what you're gonna do with brock Purty. And I
just don't know if the Niners are gonna say, hey,
play this next year and then we'll talk about your
contract after. I don't want to judge him based on
this year because the Niners have not had the year

(48:42):
anyone was expecting.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
Well, we felt like the thing about the NFL is
you got such a narrow window. Yes, which always as
amazing about teams that have sustained success that the Patriots did.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
And obviously the Chiefs are in the midst of it
right now.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
Chiefs are having a bad season and they're finding ways
to win games.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
There are no style points in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
It's just about getting w's, and so all the criticism
of the Chiefs to me is unwarranted because it doesn't matter,
you know, how prolific their passing game is, or or
how close these games are the fact that they've won
fifteen consecutive one score games. That's why I try to
make the argument about Annie Reid. Everyone's like, well, who's
your coach of the year this year? You know, there's

(49:25):
a you know, and I'm like, how is he not
considered when we talk about one score games, games that
come down to the wire. A lot of the times
comes down to clock management, making the right decisions on
everything else. This team has won fifteen consecutive one score games.

(49:46):
Why isn't Andy Reid getting any talk about being coach
of the year.

Speaker 4 (49:51):
Now, you make a.

Speaker 5 (49:52):
Point that a lot of these games that we see
where they lose, we wonder how did the coach not
call a time out? How did the coach not utilize
his time properly?

Speaker 4 (50:01):
You're right, But in reality, it's because a lot of
people look at the Chiefs and they don't think that's
why they're winning by these games by one score. They
think it's luck. They think it's luck.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
Well, no, no, no, When you win fifteen consecutive games
decided by one score, that's not luck.

Speaker 5 (50:18):
I mean some of it is, though, Like against the
Raiders that snapped you know O'Connell, where he just hits
him in the chest, like you can't tell me that's
that's unlucky for the Raiders and lucky for the Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
We don't know what the Raiders would have done had
he snapped the ball at the right time.

Speaker 4 (50:35):
You're right, but still, like, I think that's more. I'm
not saying you're wrong. I'm not saying that you are
wrong in.

Speaker 5 (50:41):
This discussion that he's not being included, But it is
that I think people are looking at the Chiefs as
more lucky than actual.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
I don't know when you went back to back Super Bowls.
You're doing something right and that's where the Chiefs are.
And believe me, I'm not. Well, hold on, let's get
Martin in on.

Speaker 10 (50:57):
So I've been thinking about this, Steve, because because I
very much like you and Monty, have the feeling when
I watched the Chiefs of the breaking bad meme with
he can't keep getting away with this, Like, how do
they keep getting away with this? Why does it always
seem like it's always a three headed dog for the
other team. It's always fighting in the thirteenth for the
other team when they pull the Chiefs. So Steve, this

(51:20):
is because I agree with you, though it just can't.
You can't flip a coin thirteen times any lance on heads.
This is not the way the world works, right, It
can't happen, can I Can I play a game with
you guys? On the second I've realized what it is though.
It's Andy Reid and the Chiefs, what they do with
they have done it. They have eliminated just about the

(51:40):
mistakes that other teams make, so we don't see them
make those mistakes.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
So it's not anything that.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
You could attribute it to.

Speaker 11 (51:48):
Right.

Speaker 10 (51:49):
We see the Raiders make the mistake, we see the
Broncos get the field goals blocked, right, but we don't
ever see that happen to Kansas City, So there's never
that moment of what was Andy Reid doing there? Where
you say the same thing for Antonio Piers. But what
I'm saying is I agree with you, but without having
the visual moment.

Speaker 3 (52:10):
It's the absence of mistake.

Speaker 4 (52:12):
So why he agrees with both of us, it's the absence.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
Of the stack.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
So you don't, we don't. You don't see it.

Speaker 3 (52:17):
Yeah, it's hard to.

Speaker 10 (52:18):
Quantify it because Steve, you know, we need shiny things
that make noises in front of us for us to
pay attention.

Speaker 3 (52:24):
All right, Chris, you want to add to this.

Speaker 13 (52:25):
Yeah, So I've been playing this game with Ryan here
in the studio. There are five teams in the NFL
that have not scored more than thirty points in any
game this year. Now he's got he's got four of
them right now, and I told him he's probably not
going to get the fifth. So if you guys want
to take a guess at all before I start naming.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
Them, let's see here are they. I think this goes
to the conversation.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
So teams that haven't scored over thirty.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
For thirty points in any game.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
I know the Chargers are on the list, until that no.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
Flow game, no charges. Giants are on the list.

Speaker 3 (53:00):
Okay, the Giants Jacksonville.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
Jacksonville is not on this list.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
The Jets haven't scored over thirty.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
Jets are on the list.

Speaker 4 (53:07):
The Texans.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
Texans are not. So we've got Raiders. Raiders are on
the list. So that's three.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
All right, So Giants, Raiders, Jets, the cow Boys, wait
to get back. I didn't say the whole team.

Speaker 4 (53:21):
Wait stop, Panthers.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
No, Panthers have scored more than thirty Falcons.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
No, no, they have.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
The fourth team is the is the Patriots.

Speaker 3 (53:30):
Oh it's just about to say the Patriots.

Speaker 13 (53:32):
Oh sure, sure, you were the fifth team which could
not get and I will give to you now when
I think this goes to some of the points we're
all making here, the Chiefs. Yeah, the Chiefs have not
scored more than thirty. They've scored one game exactly thirty points,
but not more than thirty points.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
And I think that's a trick question. No, no it's not. No,
But I mean, what is this greater than or greater than?

Speaker 3 (53:56):
Are equal to? So you have this one thing about this.
At the school, you have five teams.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
Two of them are two and eleven, two of them
are three and ten, and the one team is twelve
and one. And when we're talking about pretty amazing sing
the high flying when we're talking about losing the high
flying Chiefs and the offense and everything that goes for them.

Speaker 3 (54:15):
Yeah, they're in this group, all right.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
We'll get back to this a little bit later on
coming up on the other side, though, we're gonna turn
our attention back to the college football playoff, which will
get underway next week. Aaron Torris, Fox Sports Radio superstar
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You'll see the show posted right after we get off
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big holidays?

Speaker 3 (55:21):
Here? How's your shopping going?

Speaker 4 (55:25):
Online? Shopping is my savior, you know, Online shopping. So
I have done some shopping. I feel like working.

Speaker 5 (55:33):
You know, in sports, it happens during the holidays, So
it's gonna go by in the blink of an eye,
and next thing you know, it'll be twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
It will be twenty twenty five. In the meantime, we
are getting ready for the first ever true college football playoff. Well,
we had the last ten years that for school thing
was a made for TV event, and there was no
rhyme or reason why certain schools got in others didn't
get in. This is the first legitimate playoff. How's this

(56:01):
going to play out? Well, we are following it step
by step with the addition of one other voice. Now,
normally we would call him thirty seconds before we'd asked
him to come on the air. This time it was different.
He will be overly prepared, I'm sure. He of course,
is a Fox Sports radio legend. He's the host of
his own show, coming up with Jason Martin. That's a

(56:22):
little bit later on today, the Great Aaron Taurus is
with us once again. Aaron, do you appreciate the fact
that you actually had a heads up joining us on
the show today?

Speaker 7 (56:35):
One I do I do appreciate it. It was nice. Well,
you know, you finally get a real producer and Ryan
Bursche or not. I'm just kidding. I loved that.

Speaker 3 (56:42):
Wow.

Speaker 7 (56:44):
Text me about two o eight. Hey, you know two
eleven or so, are you available? Like, uh, you know,
just maybe like fifteen minutes. But Steve, I do want
to say something about your your opening introduction. Yes, for
the twelve team playoffs that we've all been craving and
as you said, a true playoff, all I heard was

(57:06):
a lot of whining and hypotheticals. You know, all I
heard for the last ten years was we have to
have a playoff so we can settle it on the field.
And yet all day Saturday, all day Sunday, all day Monday,
all I heard was how bad all these SEC teams
would beat everybody else hypothetically and hypothetical games that aren't
going to happen. All right, it is funny how that works.

(57:28):
Go ahead, all well, here was.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
The point, and Montsiy and I talked about this earlier. Eric, Right,
here was one of my problems back with the four
school playoff. You had five power conferences for spots, which
was a problem to begin with, but you actually had
teams that made the four team playoff that didn't even
play in their conference championship games, much less lose their

(57:51):
conference championship games. They didn't even play in their conference
championship games, and they got a ticket to the Final four.
In this case, the conference champions are rewarded, and that's
the way it should be. It's the way it should
have always have been, and now they're actually getting it done.

(58:12):
Now people are upset at a Boise State is seated
ahead of an ACC champion Clemson or a Big twelve
champion Arizona State. They should be seated ahead of them.
They lost one game to the number one team in
the country on the road by three points. Well, what
about the rest of their schedule? What about the rest
of their schedule? They beat every other team on their schedule,

(58:33):
So I give the committee credit.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
Obviously.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
I'm thrilled at SMU got the nod over Alabama. Have
people watched the SEC this year? Did you watch that
Georgia Texas SEC championship?

Speaker 4 (58:46):
It was awful?

Speaker 2 (58:48):
So you know, I mean, I think there is no
perfect system. I think for year one, at least assembling
this field, they did a good job.

Speaker 7 (59:01):
Well what I would say is, you know, everybody wants
to bash the committee, but what I do think is
they were consistent. And you can argue about their parameters,
but they were consistent. And where I bring it up is,
you know, Jason Martin and I were obviously on for
three hours immediately following that SMU climbs in game, and
we basically, did you know, an SMU Alabama postgame radio

(59:23):
show for three hours, And what really struck me, guys,
was that the conversation turned into Alabama versus SMU. But
really that is actually the wrong way to look at it.
The conversation actually was not Alabama SMU. It was teams
with no great wins but no bad losses. So that's
not only SMU. That's also, by the way, Texas, that's Indianda,

(59:47):
that's Notre Dame, or it was those teams versus teams
like Alabama, old myths that have great wins and great losses.
And so to your point, Steve, I give the committee
credit because they were consistent. If you left that SMU
by your own criteria, you had to leave out Texas.
By the way, I watched four hours after the bracket

(01:00:07):
came out of another network and nobody mentioned this is
everybody's complaining about SMU. Well, Texas, if you actually look
at if you take off the logo off their helmet
and you take off what Vince Young did twenty years
ago or what Earl Campbell did fifty years ago, there's
nothing on their resume that says they should be the
number five team. But the committee again decided that they

(01:00:29):
weren't going to punish teams in conference championship games. That
applied to SMU, that applied to Texas, that applies to
Penn State. And so that's a long way when the
way steam of me saying that I agree with you.
You can disagree about the parameters that the committee set up,
but based on the parameters, they were consistent and based
on that, they got it right with SMU.

Speaker 5 (01:00:49):
O Obama, Aron, I know that the playoffs are starting
and everyone is excited about it, but the transfer portal
to me, I'm already seeing you know, news notification about it.
Do you think the NCAA will maybe limit the times
that a player can transfer or oh, if you transfer,
this is your third time, now you got to wait

(01:01:10):
a year.

Speaker 4 (01:01:11):
Do you think we're going to be moving in that direction?

Speaker 5 (01:01:13):
Because it's just like everyone's just hopping in a transfer
portal every year.

Speaker 7 (01:01:17):
Well, I'll tell you, Monsie, it's a great question, and
I know for a fact that this is the way
the NCAA fields. The NCAA when they changed the transfer rule,
it was called the one time transfer and essentially, long
story short, I won't bore people with too many details,
but it was this was the rule. If you were

(01:01:37):
a graduate student, you could transfer it will and otherwise
you had one free transfer and after the first transfer
you could sit out. You would have to sit out.

Speaker 4 (01:01:47):
Excuse me?

Speaker 7 (01:01:48):
And what ended up happening there all the coaches that
fought for limitations on the transfer portal. By the way
headline by Mac Brown. Okay, so I'll give you guys
a quick little history. Lesson was UNC's best receiver last
year for basically since the rule change, MATC. Brown was
the most vocal proponent of we can't have unlimited transfers.

(01:02:12):
It's the worst thing ever. College football will never be
the same. And then his best wide receiver in a
year where he happened to have a guy by the
name of Drake Mayis quarterback was not eligible, and he
and Mack Brown, who was the biggest proponent of limiting transfers,
all of a sudden went on this media tour and
said how completely unfair it was that this kid, tes

(01:02:35):
Walker was not allowed to play. And so I forget.
Charlie Baker, who's the head of the NCAA, was speaking
somewhere this week, and I forget exactly where, but he
basically had a quote where he said, you know, I
put in the rules that the coaches want, and then
as soon as the coaches don't, as soon as doesn't
work out, I get sued. He's like, I've been in
office for two years. I've gone sued eight or nine

(01:02:55):
times for rules that the coaches wanted. And so to
your point, Monty, like everybody wants to blame the NCAA,
the NCAA put in a quote unquote one time transfer,
the coaches fought back, the lawyers got involved, lawsuits happened,
and now we have this chaos, which is exactly what
you alluded to of the last week or so in
the transferport.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
All right, so tonight they're going to announce the Heisman Trophy.
I don't know if you know this there, but I
have a vote, and I did vote.

Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
Yeah, fifteen years now. I've been doing it all right.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
So but here's one thing that has already been announced
that shocked me. So we have four finalists there, including
two quarterbacks, Dylan Gabriel and cam Ward, and I was thinking,
all right, it's going to be pretty tie between those
two insured or Sanders. And then they released the top

(01:03:50):
ten five through ten, and I'm looking down the list.
I see Scottimo, the Arizona State running back at five,
Bryce and Daily, the running quarterback from Army at six,
Tyler Warren the tight end at Penn State, and then
Shadre Sanders at eighth. I'm like, did I mean? What

(01:04:12):
it tells me is a lot of the voters just
were not comfortable putting two Colorado guys on their ballot.

Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
You only have three slots on their ballot.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
But I almost thought that I had actually predicted that
Sharudur Sanders was going to get a trip to New
York along with cam Ward and Dylan Gabriel.

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
I thought those three would be in a tight bunch.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
Are you surprised that Shadur Sanders showed up on as
few ballots as apparently he did?

Speaker 7 (01:04:40):
Yeah? No, I am walk story short is I thought
he would be in New York. I think he deserved
to be in New York. And it's not to dismiss
any of the other four, but I was just a
little bit surprised. And I think, you know, you look
at Colorado, you know the thing, whether it is Travis Hunter,
whether he wins it or not, and with should or
sand as well is obviously I think this time last year,

(01:05:03):
I think a lot of people thought it was kind
of like all fizzle, no stake as far as the
Colorado whatever. This year, they're nine to three. Remember they
lost to Kansas State in a game where Travis Hunter
wasn't healthy, and basically, I mean, you know, like they
were a very good team that because of a tiebreaker,
could have played for a conference championship and did not.

(01:05:25):
So yeah, you know, I'm going along on the answer
just because, just to be blunt, I am very surprised
that snor Sanders wasn't in New York. Is it in
New York? And I think he's very deserving. Steve, I
think you have to get together with your fellow committee
members and set some people straight.

Speaker 4 (01:05:39):
That's what I think you need to do, Eric, before
we let you go.

Speaker 5 (01:05:42):
We have to ask you, what do you think will
happen with Bill Belichick and the University of North Carolina.

Speaker 7 (01:05:50):
How many minutes do we have here, because that could
go on for day.

Speaker 4 (01:05:53):
I'm sure, what does your gut tell you about that move?

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
Yeah, I think he's running into a bus with the
state of college football.

Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
What are your thoughts here?

Speaker 7 (01:06:02):
Thing go? Yeah, I just listen. First of all, let
me say this this idea that recruiting is somehow easier
now than it was five years ago because you can
pay players. It's actually a million times harder for the
reason that Monty brought up earlier. It's because all of
your players are free agents every single year, twice a year.

(01:06:23):
And I think you know one. I just don't think
until you're in that meat grinder and until you know
that kid comes in and says, coach, I know you know,
I'm excited to be back next year. But XYZ school
offered the X y Z and if you can't match it,
im out. Until you have that first conversation, until the

(01:06:44):
fact that you have to re recruit players in your
building that we're playing, Like, just think about this. I'll
just give you a very random example. Okay, So Monxy
brought up all the multiple time transfers. There's a kid,
a duke named Malik Murphy. He was Quinn you weres
back up at last year and it was clear Arch
Manning was going to be the backup this year. So
he decides to transfer, goes to Duke Duke. First of all,

(01:07:07):
Duke gives from the starting quarterbacks something he couldn't get
at Texas. Okay, he throws for like twenty six touchdowns.
Duke wins nine games, so it's not like the team stuck.
He played well. The team played well. And I don't
know the kids specifically. I'm just using him as an example,
and I feel bad, you know, kind of singling him out.
But the kid won nine games in a power conference
and decides to leave. And so like, imagine, imagine Bill Belichick.

(01:07:30):
You know, he's planning for the next season. This started quarterback.
Just as a coach, I got, I got an offer
from XYZ school, I'm out, and so I just I
don't think until you're actually in it, you can realize
how chaotic it is. And I just think, you know,
college sports, it comes down to recruiting. You know, I've
seen so many coaches in both college football and college

(01:07:52):
basketball come from the professional ranks and think that x'es
and o's are going to be the X factor. It's
probably more prevalent than college basketball received. Patrick Ewing come
from the NBA, and Chris Mullen come from the NBA,
and Jerry Stackhouse come from the NBA, and all these
guys have all the x's and those answers. And then
he realized just how wild recruiting is, and so I

(01:08:13):
don't really think it's gonna work. And my last little
thing that I'll say is that one, I don't love
the idea of taking a job just to kind of
help you. I don't have a problem helping your son.
But I don't know that he's fully committed. I know
he said all the right things at the press conference,
but the fact that his buyout drops to a million
dollars six months from now means that he can pretty
much get out if the NFL ever were to come

(01:08:34):
calling again. I don't think it ends well. I just
I think he'll be fine. I don't think he like
I don't think he's going to re recreate college football
as we know it, which is a lot of the
takes that I've seen know he's going to do recruiting
and nil and the portal and strength and conditioning, so differently,
it's like he's not going to be doing anything that

(01:08:56):
Kirby Smart and Dados Sweetey and Ryan Day are aready doing.
And I wish him well. It'll be good for our
business if he's really good or really bad. But I
just don't think that he fully understands just how challenging
this thing is.

Speaker 8 (01:09:09):
Going to be.

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
One other note here, Aaron Montsi thinks Nick Staban's coming
on his defensive coordinator.

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
There it is.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
That's that's my dream that Patricia. Yeah, just like the
old Cleveland Browns days when Saban was his defensive coordinator.

Speaker 11 (01:09:26):
Aaron.

Speaker 3 (01:09:26):
Of course, we'll have a show tonight with Jason Martin.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
And of course, don't forget about that Aaron Torres Sports podcast.
He is everywhere, including with us every single Saturday, and
we got we got playoff games next week, so we're
definitely bringing.

Speaker 11 (01:09:38):
It back now.

Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
Yeah, so to have games. Aaron, great stuff, Thank you man, Thank.

Speaker 7 (01:09:43):
You both, have a great afternoon. Thank you guys for
having me.

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
For sure, it is great Aeron Torres showing us, sir,
all right, let's find out what is trendy. He's been
standing by waiting to continue to update this on that
Army Navy game at one Game of the Day.

Speaker 10 (01:09:56):
I've got a question, though, Steve Yes, the Heisman voter
in college football walking Encyclopedia. Yes, why is it that
you can't offer or or I should phrase it like this,
can you not offer multi year nil deals? What's stopping
somebody from offering a two year, ten million dollar deal
for example?

Speaker 3 (01:10:16):
Well, first of all, I think that was already done.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
I think USC did that with Caleb Williams from what
I understand, right, so when he when he when he
came over, of course he already knew he was going
to have to play two years at USC because he
would be eligible for the draft. But from what I understand,
once his coach came, Caleb Williams did get a two
year deal.

Speaker 3 (01:10:36):
So it's just not common, But it's not.

Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
There's no good Well, because again, I mean, Caleb Williams
was sort of a unique situation as a true freshman.
He'd already become a starting quarter about at Oklahoma, and
he had two more years of eligibility when he went
to USC.

Speaker 10 (01:10:50):
But I'm saying, like the quarterback of Tennessee, it's his
first year starting, why can't he have like a could
they have offered him a two year deal?

Speaker 3 (01:10:58):
And like if they had wanted to?

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
Well, if again, you're trying to hold on to players,
this idea that you have the portal twice in a
year losing players trying to bring in.

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
Players, That's what I mean, because that is I agree
with that. I mean a little multi year dealer, that's
what I was. I think they do them, but it's
it's tough.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
I mean, even if you have a two year deal,
they'll opt out if it doesn't work out for.

Speaker 3 (01:11:21):
Them year one, right, Okay, Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:11:24):
Wells go into the world at man Il College Sports
number nineteen eighth three Old Miss in college basketball is
a sixty to thirty.

Speaker 3 (01:11:31):
Six lead over their Southern miss, fifth rank Kentucky.

Speaker 10 (01:11:33):
With a twenty eight to sixty lead over Louisville and
number one rate Tennessee trailing Illinois three to nothing eighteen minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:11:40):
That's in the first half, that one on.

Speaker 10 (01:11:42):
Fox in the Army Navy game, Army trails right now
twenty one to ten to the Midshipman. This is the
third time in the last four games that Army has
been trailing going into the fourth quarter. Army, the twenty
second rate team of the nation, only lost one game this year,
earlier to Notre Dame and the NFL. The Chiefs activate
the quarterback I mean move tripping kicker.

Speaker 3 (01:12:04):
There we go kicker.

Speaker 10 (01:12:06):
Harrison Bucker from injured reserve and released kicker matthew Wright
starting to tackle. DJ Humphries is out with a hamstring injury.
The team just signed him last week. Mayor's list running
back Andre Swift as questionable for Monday Night Football with
their groin injury. That game is against Minnesota, and cornerbacks
Define Gilmore for the Vikings questionable with the hamstring himself.

(01:12:27):
The Coins quarterback Trayvon Diggs has been ruled out for
Tomorrow's game against the Panthers, day Glazer reporting he'll miss
the rest of the season with a knee injury. In
the semi finals of the NBA Cup, Steve, I know
you are locked into the NBA Cup. The Milwaukee Bucks
with a fifty five to forty nine lead over the
Atlanta Hawks.

Speaker 3 (01:12:46):
Trey Young with twelve points.

Speaker 10 (01:12:48):
It's one for five from the Florianis with fourteen points.
Eight rebounds in five assists that games. At the half,
the Brooklyn Nets have traded Dennis Schroeder to the Golden
State Warriors for Dan and he Melton, the three second
round picks the As traded for left Jeffrey Springs.

Speaker 3 (01:13:04):
From the Tampa Bay Rays, Moncie and Steve.

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
Back to you, guys, I will say, my favorite part
of the NBA Cup from last year and now as
we near the end this year, is just that we're
nearing the end. You were going to say that because
we no longer will have to look at those ghastly
courts that are unwatchable on television.

Speaker 4 (01:13:26):
Agree with you, but the one they're playing on today is.

Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
Not terrible, and it's in Vegas.

Speaker 4 (01:13:30):
It's in Vegas, so you're right.

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
And I'm like, okay, why can't we do that with
all the courts you? I mean, that's just it's got
the cup, which makes sense right a mid court.

Speaker 3 (01:13:41):
Why why do we have to have these solid colored.

Speaker 4 (01:13:43):
Courts and like red, like it looks awful.

Speaker 3 (01:13:47):
I just literally click every time I see the court.

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
But you're right now that they've moved to Vegas for
the Semis and then the championship game, it looks like
a normal court, which is fine.

Speaker 4 (01:13:58):
And for our listeners, when he said I literally clicked,
he actually turned the dial with his hand.

Speaker 3 (01:14:03):
I did that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
That's old.

Speaker 4 (01:14:05):
That's the old. Yes, I know you did not grab
a remote.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
You have no idea what it was like back in
the day of black and white television.

Speaker 5 (01:14:12):
I remember when I was very young, my parents had
a TV that you had to walk up to and
like turn the uha, And I knew that's what you
were doing because you didn't click a remote.

Speaker 2 (01:14:21):
So we growing up in Los Angeles, we actually had
seven channels, which was unreal wow, because you had ABC, NBC, CBS,
but you also had four independent LA stations. Most most
they only had the three stations, right, maybe.

Speaker 3 (01:14:36):
One local station. That LA was big time, big time,
all right.

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
Coming up on the other side, we're going to take
a look ahead of tomorrow's NFL schedule and it's I'll
put it this way, it's backloaded with some really big
time games. We'll break it down for you.

Speaker 3 (01:14:55):

Speaker 1 (01:14:59):
Listen, no fuck Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
The Chipmunks are tremendous, tremendous. They actually came out like
the year I was born, by the way, speaking of
Christmas songs, Brenda Lee's song what is that song that
is so popular? Christmas song? Rock around the Christmas Tree?

Speaker 4 (01:15:21):
Thanks?

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
It's popular when you were a kid? Maybe, no, no, no.
Last year it hit number one on the charts. It's
how about that Riah Carey? Oh, it beats Mariah Carey
and it actually hit number one sixty five years after
it was released. It has never happened in chart history,
and it happened a year ago. Brenda Lee was thirteen
years old when she recorded that song.

Speaker 3 (01:15:44):
Thirteen.

Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
Wow, she just had her eightieth birthday and she couldn't
believe it. Last year when this song that she recorded
in nineteen fifty eight got to number one on the
charts in twenty twenty three.

Speaker 3 (01:15:58):
How about that?

Speaker 4 (01:15:58):
Good for her?

Speaker 3 (01:15:59):
By the way, she four foot nine.

Speaker 4 (01:16:01):
That's shorter.

Speaker 7 (01:16:03):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
That's right.

Speaker 4 (01:16:04):
That's wow.

Speaker 3 (01:16:06):
So now you really like her?

Speaker 4 (01:16:07):
I really like her.

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
But yeh, she just had her That's right. Thanks once again,
Fox Football Saturday. We're coming live from the tirerec dot
Com studios. All right, enough with the music trivia, Let's
talk about an NFL schedule.

Speaker 3 (01:16:21):
So we have the seven games in the morning and
it's like yikes.

Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
Yeah, yikes, Chris, We're gonna have to figure out four
games for this list tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:16:31):
But what are we looking at?

Speaker 4 (01:16:33):
Chiefs Brown one for sure, that's the one in the morning.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
That you have Dolphins Taxans, that's a you know Dolphins
are still in the mix.

Speaker 4 (01:16:40):
Yeah, okay, Dolphins Texans.

Speaker 3 (01:16:42):
And then then you want the Bengals Titans.

Speaker 5 (01:16:45):
Just because out of the I'm not watching because I
care of the outcome.

Speaker 2 (01:16:48):
I just want to watch Joe Burrow. I mean, Joe
Burrow leads the league in your passing yards, touched, thirty three, touchdown,
six picks.

Speaker 6 (01:16:54):
I know I should.

Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
I should get some points from my picking him as
the MVP, even though he won't be.

Speaker 3 (01:16:58):
Yeah, and then I'm thinking Jets, Jaguars.

Speaker 2 (01:17:01):
Can the can the Jets possibly lose to the Jaguars.
You have two three and ten teams. I had the
Jags winning the AFC South. That was a great pick, uh,
But the Jets three and if they lose it, can
they are they gonna lose out?

Speaker 4 (01:17:17):
You're you're selling me this game because at first I
was like, I don't want to watch that. I was
thinking more Cowboys Panthers because I want.

Speaker 3 (01:17:24):
Even if it's a train wreck, you want to see
that game?

Speaker 4 (01:17:26):
Yeah, no, you're right, you're right, you're selling it for me.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
Yeah, but on the afternoon, then all of a sudden,
I mean, the Broncos Colts game is a huge game,
Broncos trying to hang on to that final slot. And
then of course he got the two heavyweight battles Steelers
at the Eagles, Bills at the Lions. Let's get Chris
in here for a second.

Speaker 5 (01:17:45):
Even also Buccaneers Chargers, hold on a second, that's also
a big one.

Speaker 2 (01:17:48):
Oh oh no, no, I'm gonna get to all those Chargers.
And later you got the Packers Seahawks is a big game.

Speaker 6 (01:17:54):
These are all big games, big ones.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
Yeah, but Chris, uh, are you looking at this Bill
matchup Lions at home? Any nervousness about this game? Will
this game have any impact? Is this a super Bowl preview?

Speaker 13 (01:18:10):
It may very well be a super Bowl preview if
this game's going to have impact? Yeah, because the Vikings
and the Eagles are right on the Lions. Vikings in
their division, Eagles for the one seed. Like the Lions
really can't afford to make mistakes. Thankfully, I think they
haven't gotten a lot of their big contributors back on defense.
But they are starting to be healthy with guys they
had last week, which is a change. And the Bills, like,

(01:18:34):
I don't know, they've clinched their division. Yeah, but they're
coming in hurting after that loss.

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
But shootouts, How did the Rams score forty four points
one week and then win a game twelve to six
four days? Laugh your answer? You ready for it? Yeah,
very carefully.

Speaker 11 (01:18:48):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:18:49):
I mean it was just like what happened to that
Rams team that was just rolling it up on the Bills.

Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
I've got a little preview of it.

Speaker 3 (01:18:55):
Well, I'll put it this way.

Speaker 2 (01:18:56):
If the Rams could put up forty four on the Bills,
what could the Lions do? I mean, you can't argue
that the Lions are a better offensive team than the Rams,
especially after what we saw Thursday with the Rams.

Speaker 13 (01:19:09):
So I mean again, they're coming off like what a
thirty four point game on the Packers? Who I believe
that's that's a decent enough defense on that side. That
being said, and with all due respect to Jared Goff
all these great quarterbacks, I mean, this appears to be
Josh Allen's here. I mean, was that the first guy ever,

(01:19:29):
with three touchdowns rushing and passing the same game in
that loss to the Rams.

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
I think he's my MVP right now if I'm wild,
be completely honest. By the way, they have passer rating
and then they have what they call QBR like total
quarterback rating. He's number one on that. Yeah, he has
the number one QBR in the NFL this year, and.

Speaker 4 (01:19:48):
After losing his biggest weapon.

Speaker 3 (01:19:50):
Yeah, Gig's gone.

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:19:53):
Yeah, that's what's impressive about what he's doing this yere.

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
All right, Well we'll say that Chargers Buccaneers match, which
is a huge game, and then, by the way, the
Chargers come back on Thursday, short week against the Bronco.

Speaker 4 (01:20:08):
An even bigger game, an even bigger game. It's one
of those games where I have to watch it at
home and not in public.

Speaker 2 (01:20:15):
Yeah, we are gonna have Adam Kaplan our NFL insider
in the next hour plus some big news out of
the w NBA.

Speaker 3 (01:20:23):

Speaker 15 (01:20:26):
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Speaker 3 (01:20:57):
He's gonna break down all the big games.

Speaker 2 (01:20:59):
Week fifteen, Week fifteen in the NFL, for I forgot
about that. What it happens week fifteen.

Speaker 4 (01:21:09):
I can't believe it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:10):
We are just sailing through this. I mean, college football,
you know, this is it.

Speaker 7 (01:21:15):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:21:16):
We have the Army Navy game today, and then of
course the Heisman Trophy award announcement tonight, and then we
get ready for the bowl season and of course obviously
the college football playoff next week.

Speaker 3 (01:21:27):
That will get started with the Notre Dame.

Speaker 2 (01:21:29):
Indiana game on Friday, and then the three other games
coming up on Saturday, so we'll be all over that,
and then at the football Saturday, and then Holiday and
then you have the holidays and everything else.

Speaker 4 (01:21:40):
So it's going to be over in the blink of
an eye, and just like that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:43):
We turn the leaf on yet another year, another year.
I mean, you're really is how surreal it is that
like twenty twenty five. No, no, I mean that means
we're like a quarter of the way through a century,
right with twenty twenty four at the end, that will
be the official we are one fourth of the way

(01:22:05):
through the twenty first century.

Speaker 5 (01:22:10):
It makes my head hurt because I still remember when
the world was going to end nice, yes, you know,
right like two k and and like everybody had the
it's the end of the world.

Speaker 4 (01:22:20):
I still remember that, and I can't believe that that's
now twenty five years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
Yeah, see what happens.

Speaker 4 (01:22:26):
It's a gross feeling.

Speaker 3 (01:22:27):
Yeah, wait till you get to my stage.

Speaker 4 (01:22:28):
No, it's a gross feeling.

Speaker 2 (01:22:30):
I think things really started accelerating, all right. I wanted
to bring up something with you, Manci so Time magazine,
which most people don't read anymore. I think a lot
of people are always like, there's still a Time magazine.
And of course President Trump was announced as Person of
the Year. That wasn't a real surprise. Obviously he has

(01:22:50):
his critics, but I mean, you know, he was the story.
Let's put it that way. They also had other categories
and another non surprise and the right choice Athlete of the.

Speaker 3 (01:23:04):
Year for twenty twenty four Kaitlyn Clark.

Speaker 2 (01:23:09):
I mean, there is no argument, on the men's side
or the women's side, no athlete had a greater impact
on their sport than Kaitlyn Clark had on women's basketball
period exclamation point.

Speaker 3 (01:23:26):
In fact, she brought in.

Speaker 2 (01:23:29):
A look for college or well, let's talk about the WNBA.
What she brought to the WNBA was unprecedented. And there
have been great players in the WNBA for over a
quarter century. None of them, you could combine all of
them over the history of the WNBA, and none of

(01:23:50):
them combined.

Speaker 3 (01:23:53):
Had the impact that Caitlyn Clark had on this league.

Speaker 2 (01:23:57):
When you are moving games to neutral sites from four
thousand seed arenas to twenty thousand seed arenas just because
you know she will sell out those arenas, which she did,
and so you would think that this would be celebrated.
I'm guessing that Time magazine is never named an WNBA

(01:24:21):
player it's their athlete of the year. In fact, I
know it's never happened. So you would think the WNBA
would be universally celebrating the fact that they finally found
a player that could have that kind of impact on
their league. And all I'm hearing is bitch ANDEMONI for

(01:24:43):
a variety of reasons, but the one reason is clear.
They just don't want to give this girl credit for
the credit she deserves.

Speaker 3 (01:24:54):
And Monci it is it's just it's my po my mind.

Speaker 5 (01:25:01):
It is mind bottling right that it's still something that
people want to fight about and argue, like, there is
no question that she deserved to be Athlete of the Year.
In a far distant second, it was show hey o
Tani because of what he did right yea.

Speaker 4 (01:25:16):
Far distant second, there was no question about it. She
deserved it.

Speaker 5 (01:25:21):
What she has done very little people have been able
to do throughout the course of the world.

Speaker 4 (01:25:27):
I mean, think about what Tiger Woods did right, right,
But it's.

Speaker 2 (01:25:31):
Like Tiger Woods or Michael there's very short lists of
the athletes that have literally flipped a sport around with
their mere press.

Speaker 4 (01:25:41):
And remember right before the w NBA season started, she
I mean, she's had the haters. Poor girl cannot do
anything right. It doesn't matter what she says or does.
The haters come out and their new haters coming out
all the time. At the start of the w NBA season,
it was like, oh, it's not gonna She's not gonna.

Speaker 5 (01:25:58):
Move the needle like that. You guys watch she literally
moved the needle the entire season. It never dropped off.
It did not matter if she was in town.

Speaker 4 (01:26:08):
Everyone knew it, and you, like you mentioned, teams had
to move to a different neutral space because they knew
that it was going to sell out, and it happened
the entire season.

Speaker 5 (01:26:17):
It's mind boggling that we're still arguing and fighting about it.
If you don't make Kilon Clark, that's fine, you don't.

Speaker 4 (01:26:23):
Have to like her. But to deny what she is doing,
it's like you're You're like, you can't be that dumb.
You can't possibly want to argue with me that she
is not this transcendent athlete.

Speaker 3 (01:26:36):
All right, here's the reality for the WNBA.

Speaker 2 (01:26:39):
Even with the impact that Caitlin Clark had on the
league this year, this league lost forty million dollars. That's
how much money the WNBA lost this year with Kate
and Clark. That gives you an idea of how much
money they've been losing over the years with this league.
And about sixty percent of this league is subsidized by
NBA and the NBA owners seeing you know, a little

(01:27:03):
bit of light at the end of the tunnel here
with the emergence of Caitlin Clark and filling up you know,
these arenas. When she's out on the court, they're starting
to turn to Adam Silver saying, Hey, when are we
going to see a return on our investment. You basically
have told us we need to support the WNBA even

(01:27:24):
though we're taking a loss year after year after year
after year. Well, why are we going to start seeing
some money back in our pocket? And then they're talking
about the collective bargaining agreement, where these WNBA players are saying,
we want more money. The last time that happened, David
Stern was in the commission in the NBA.

Speaker 3 (01:27:42):
He said, I'm going to give you two choices.

Speaker 2 (01:27:45):
You can either continue to play for the money we
pay you, or I can pull the plug on your league.
Those were their two choices, so they chose to So,
I mean, it's it's hard to believe that we could
see the w NBA actually self destruct after what has

(01:28:05):
happened this season, with the impact that Caitlyn Clark brought
to that league.

Speaker 5 (01:28:11):
It's like incredible that the league doesn't just want to
be like, good job, thanks, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:28:17):
That's it.

Speaker 4 (01:28:18):
It's like you again. If you don't like her, that's
absolutely fine. But to deny what she has done is
my issue about these owners.

Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
I mean, where's the management of the WNBA. You've got
owners that are spouting off.

Speaker 4 (01:28:32):
The mystics owner, I mean cat, she was trying to say.

Speaker 2 (01:28:36):
It wasn't just Caitlin Clark, it was Angel Reese, it
was all the great rookies that came in, Like, no,
shut the f are you kidding me? There was one player,
one player, one player, Caitlin Clark. That's why you know
Angel Wilson was the best player in the league, right yeah,
and she was the MVP. But I made the argument,

(01:28:56):
how do you define most valuable player? Because the most
valuable player in the WNBA this year was Kaitlyn Clark.
Was she the best player? No, Age Wilson was the
best player valuable player. That wasn't even close. It's unanimous
with Kaitlin Clarks. I I just it's just unreal how
this w NBA is.

Speaker 4 (01:29:18):
Continues to dig their heels against her. I don't get it.
And it's not everyone.

Speaker 5 (01:29:24):
I get that, Steve and I get that, but the
fact that there's even any who want to come and dig.

Speaker 3 (01:29:29):
Their heels own that it is not her ownership ownership.

Speaker 2 (01:29:35):
I just I mean, are you crazy?

Speaker 4 (01:29:37):
It's like, are you with a wall?

Speaker 2 (01:29:39):
Because it is Kaitlin Clark.

Speaker 4 (01:29:41):
It's our there's nobody, nobody like her.

Speaker 2 (01:29:43):
I got news for these people that are spouting off
against Kaitlyn Clark. You need her way more than.

Speaker 6 (01:29:51):
She needs you, which we've been saying.

Speaker 3 (01:29:53):
Also, she doesn't need at all the WNBA.

Speaker 2 (01:29:57):
You're lucky she's still there at all.

Speaker 3 (01:30:01):
She doesn't need them.

Speaker 4 (01:30:02):
No, it's really increasing.

Speaker 11 (01:30:06):
I mean it is.

Speaker 4 (01:30:07):
It's mind bottling. It's mind bottling, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:30:09):
And she's trying to say all the right things.

Speaker 4 (01:30:11):
It doesn't matter what she does, doesn't matter what she says.

Speaker 2 (01:30:14):
No, I advise saying, don't try to appease these people
because you're never gonna win.

Speaker 4 (01:30:21):
You're never gonna win.

Speaker 2 (01:30:22):
Ever, No, stop trying to appease them. You don't owe
them anything.

Speaker 4 (01:30:29):
And you're already winning, girl, you are winning. It sucks.

Speaker 5 (01:30:33):
It sucks that you cannot make everyone happy, but that's
that's what happens when you're that great.

Speaker 2 (01:30:40):
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Speaker 2 (01:31:49):
We are now to Week fifteen of the NFL season.
We're gonna have a Heisman Trophy handed out tonight. College
football playoffs, the actual playoff we'll get underway next week.
But coming down the stretch in the NFL, how's.

Speaker 3 (01:32:02):
It going to shake out this week?

Speaker 2 (01:32:03):
Well, one guy that will provide as many answers as
he possibly can joins us every single week at this time.

Speaker 3 (01:32:10):
He is the great Adam Kaplan Adam, How are you today, guys?

Speaker 11 (01:32:15):
I am feeling good this Uh, it's been quite the week.

Speaker 16 (01:32:19):
The bill be Bill Belichick's story was so unique and
so wild, and nobody believed it as of last Sunday night,
and then uh, as I worked on it Monday, I
was just I couldn't believe it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:30):
All right, let me stop you for a seke shocking shock,
all right, well still shocked. When he talks about his
dream job, I'm like, yeah, sure, okay, all right. The
reality is he got fired by the Patriots. He didn't
voluntarily leave. He was fired by the Patriots. There were
seven openings for jobs. He got an interview from one team, yep,

(01:32:51):
and he got bypassed for a guy who had a
career losing record as a head coach in the NFL.
And my guess is that he was going to find
any more opportunities after this season because teams are not
comfortable with the idea of handing full control of the
franchise to Bill Belichick. And that's what he is demanding

(01:33:12):
and feels like he'll have that kind of control in
the college game at North Carolina. But let's let's make
it infinitely clear me because, and we were talking about
this earlier, there are provisions in this North Carolina contract
in terms of buyout that if an NFL team came knocking,
that window would be open. But do you really believe

(01:33:33):
there's any NFL team out there right now that is
chomping at the bid to have an opportunity to hire
Bill Belichick as their next head coach.

Speaker 16 (01:33:43):
All right, a couple things here, Steve. Let's just see
right off the top, he wanted to be an NFL
head coach. Okay, that's I know that for a fact,
talk to someone very close to him. That opportunity was
not going to rise here now. If he wanted to
wait and not take this Carolina job, it's possible that
the Cowboys would have interviewed him if the Cowboys move
on from Mike McCarthy. That's not a secret in league circles.

(01:34:04):
Like Jerry Jones is fond of Bill Belichick. But that
being said, no team put out any overtures. In fact,
there's a story from New York Post and ESPN dot
com and Richard Meanie very Well is plugged into the
Jets and this one's stunned me.

Speaker 11 (01:34:18):
I don't know if he saw this today. I can't
believe this, but.

Speaker 16 (01:34:21):
Hey, two good reporters put it out there that Belichick
was the one who reached out to the Jets within
the last week. It's stunning. You know, obviously before he
haven't got involved with Carolina.

Speaker 3 (01:34:34):
But he's begging for an NFL.

Speaker 11 (01:34:36):
I mean, he wont no.

Speaker 16 (01:34:37):
Look, he wanted back badly. He wanted to be a
head coach again in the National Football League. Now here's
what really happened. Okay, here's why team Steve just talking
to some NFL people who have been putting together coaching
searches and are very plugged in. What happens is you
always look at the end when a coach gets fired.

Speaker 11 (01:34:57):
Sometimes it's not fair.

Speaker 16 (01:34:58):
Sometimes agreement with ownership or general manager, whatever the case.
Maan being built. Although people close to Bill say that
he did not want full control with a new NFL team.
But the problem is there's a lot of baggage with Bill.
There's you have to do certain things that he wants.

Speaker 11 (01:35:15):
It's just it's a whole event with Bill.

Speaker 16 (01:35:18):
But they looked at the lack of development with Mac Jones,
the fallout with Mac Jones. It didn't work that Wasp
justos to be their next franchise quarterback. It didn't work
bringing Matt Patrician to call in his plays on offense,
which is ridiculous with Joe Judge being a quarterbacks coach.

Speaker 11 (01:35:34):
That was not lost in a lot of NFL people, Steve.

Speaker 16 (01:35:36):
They always look at the ending, what happened and the
way Bill handled the developing a young quarterback.

Speaker 11 (01:35:42):
That was not lost with NFL people, Adam.

Speaker 4 (01:35:45):
If we're looking at the ending here, it's the end
of the forty nine ers.

Speaker 11 (01:35:49):
Yeah, well this season is yes, Yes.

Speaker 4 (01:35:51):
That game against the Rams was obviously. They have a
lot of questions. What do you think how do you
think they approached Brockberdy this offseason?

Speaker 16 (01:36:02):
He's their guy. I don't think much has changed. I
know who brought party's been inconsistent.

Speaker 11 (01:36:07):
That's a fact. That's fair. That's with the tape shows.
That's what I'm told, But.

Speaker 16 (01:36:11):
They've had a lot go wrong. The EYEU called out
or hold in and then he gets this big deal.
He's one good game and he suffers an ACL injury.
Party's been banged up. You look at McCaffrey and then
his backup Toured Mason.

Speaker 1 (01:36:27):
Very well.

Speaker 16 (01:36:28):
Neither could return. It's very possible neither returns this season.
They've had a lot of injuries. But you know what,
it's not just the injuries that this is another team.

Speaker 11 (01:36:37):
That you scratch your head. They just have not played well.
And it's not like they've had this great schedule.

Speaker 16 (01:36:42):
The Cardinals, if you remember very your only season one there,
which is kind of shocking. No, if we put together
our top five underachievement list, obviously the Jets are on there,
but the Niners they have to be on there. There's
no question about it. The Niners are on there. They're
not going to the playoffs. An they're still alive by
a fimble but they're live for last wildcarts. But but

(01:37:03):
obviously it's not going to happen. They have to do
a lot of soul searching. And John Lynch, general manager,
and Kyle Shanahan, Kyle's got personnel control. They're going to
have to go through this and be honest with themselves
and not finger point. They've just got to do a
better job. It didn't work.

Speaker 2 (01:37:18):
All right, Let's talk about a game that Monsei is
very interested in this week, and that is the Chargers
hosting the Buccaneers.

Speaker 3 (01:37:25):
Buccaneers need a win as.

Speaker 2 (01:37:27):
They try to hang on to the lead right now
in that NFC South, Chargers join the long list of
teams like, how did we just lose that game.

Speaker 3 (01:37:34):
To the Chiefs. I mean, I just it's unreal.

Speaker 2 (01:37:36):
I mean, fifteen consecutive wins in one score games. We
get the Chiefs later on, but normally you got a
you know, an East Coast team traveling the West coast.

Speaker 3 (01:37:45):
It's a difficult play.

Speaker 2 (01:37:47):
Baker Mayfield's had an outstanding season, you know, justin Herbert again,
their offense has been inconsistent. They had injuries. Obviously McConkie
was out last week. I don't even know how they
were able to stay in that game. They had those
two big scores on the third quarter to get back
into it. But how do you think this game is
going to play out between two teams that need wins?

Speaker 3 (01:38:08):
This week? The Buccaneers and the Chargers.

Speaker 11 (01:38:11):
Yes, Steve, I.

Speaker 16 (01:38:12):
Think the problem with the Bucks is, you know, I
did pick them the win division, but I've been kind
of underwhelmed.

Speaker 11 (01:38:16):
Their issue was in their secondary.

Speaker 16 (01:38:17):
They've not They've not gotten the pass rouchers they've needed
to help their secondary. Remember, they traded their best corner,
Carlton Davis. They felt they were done with them. They
traded them to arrival on the Lions. It's kind of weird,
you know. They did that in the off season back
in March, and they really have not adequately replaced them.
That's been a problem. Now let's go over to the Chargers.

(01:38:38):
I mentioned this last week on FSR. Over the weekend,
the Chargers are going to miss JK. Dobbins, who did
an unbelievable job of coming back from torn achilles and
an ac injury. You know, they got shut out the
first half against the Chiefs and the game should not
have been as close as it was.

Speaker 11 (01:38:53):
That was.

Speaker 16 (01:38:55):
We'll talk about the Chiefs in a minute here, but
I'm gonna still pick the Bucks. I feel like the
Bucks are the better team. The Chargers have really fallen
off after that that really nice start, but they their
offense is predicated and run the football, and without Dobbin
Scutts Edwards, it's just not a good.

Speaker 11 (01:39:10):
Lead back.

Speaker 4 (01:39:12):
Real quick.

Speaker 5 (01:39:12):
Here is still in the NFC South with the Falcons.
I just I'm a little bit surprised we haven't seen
more of Michael Pennocks junior.

Speaker 11 (01:39:19):
Well, they're not there yet because they're live. You know,
they're live for the playoff spot there.

Speaker 16 (01:39:23):
With Kirk Cousins contract, they want to exhaust this thing
as far as they could go until they feel like
they're out.

Speaker 11 (01:39:29):
If they're out there, definitely will go to Pennix.

Speaker 16 (01:39:31):
This is obviously a game now if I buy Max
Crosby's out his ankle, he rainjured that high ankle. If
for some reason, not only do they lose, but Kirk
Cousins is a big reason and they would fall to
six and eight, then I think we start talking about
Penick for Week sixteen. You absolutely got to be in play.
But they can't lose this game Tomorrow night. Sheuse Monday night,

(01:39:53):
and you want to talk about I am stunned that
these games are not flexed out. How in the world
does ESPN get both these case, particularly the Falcons of
Raiders game.

Speaker 2 (01:40:01):
Holy smokes, Yeah, all right, so let's talk about the
game of the week, Bill's Lions.

Speaker 3 (01:40:06):
Bill's got to be in a state of shock. They
give up forty four.

Speaker 2 (01:40:09):
Points to the Rams and then watch the Rams get
four field goals against the.

Speaker 3 (01:40:13):
Forty nine ers. I mean, it's like wow, I mean,
I know or that it was at the same team.

Speaker 2 (01:40:19):
They just went up and down the field against the
Bills that entire game, even though obviously Josh Allen had
an MVP performance. Are we looking at a Super Bowl preview?
I mean, no one seems to be buying into the Chiefs,
even though they're sitting pretty now. With that Bill's loss
of the Rams, it looks like the road's going to
have to go through Casey if the Bills want to
get to the super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (01:40:38):
But what's your gut tell you right now? Week fifteen?

Speaker 2 (01:40:41):
Are we looking at a Super Bowl preview? Bills Lions?

Speaker 16 (01:40:46):
I think Steve with the Bills is their past rush
has been so disappointing, and Von Miller comes back from
injuries clearly near the end of his career, they've kind
of overachieved. If you look at if you're grated their defense,
you go, wow, they're not very talented but they continue
to win.

Speaker 11 (01:41:00):
But the reason why they're not they're falling off.

Speaker 16 (01:41:02):
You know, all three losses have been on the road
against quality football teams. The Rams, I know they're wiley consistent,
but they got it done last week. Puka and Aku
had just ran them ragged or not that the Bills
are not very good at corner. I don't see that
Lions struggling this game. I'd be very surprised if they lost. Uh,
They're they're clearly the better team. They're better than the Bills.
The Bills have overachieved. Now that that game that Josh

(01:41:23):
Allen had was ridiculous, I vote in two poles.

Speaker 11 (01:41:27):
I got off that in three weeks.

Speaker 16 (01:41:29):
I got to start looking hard at this because I
gotta I gotta make a decision whether I'm gonna give
Josh Allen the m v P. You know, his numbers
have been okay up to about three weeks ago, but
now they're they're starting to air it out more. And
Josh was ridiculously great last week. And good to see
Marii Cooper active. You know he had that bad rest. Uh,
But you know, in the end, I know, so to

(01:41:49):
move this along here, the Chiefs play really really good defense,
and that in that conference, Pittsburgh is the team they
come in to fill. They're banged up, they're gonna be
with down three starters tomorrow. But the Steelers, when they
get everybody back, that's a team that could win anywhere.

Speaker 11 (01:42:06):
Do not discount the Steelers form making a run.

Speaker 5 (01:42:09):
Steelers, Yes, Steelers Eagles Eagles pass game hasn't been anything spectacular.

Speaker 11 (01:42:14):
It's been bad.

Speaker 5 (01:42:16):
Yeah, Steelers won't have George Pickens, but I feel like
if the Steelers just go in and say, okay, stop Saquon,
what are the Eagles going to do?

Speaker 3 (01:42:25):
Well?

Speaker 11 (01:42:25):
That's the thing.

Speaker 16 (01:42:26):
Every week we think they're going to throw more and
they don't because they're just not letting Jalen her throw
the football. And they're winning with their defense, which is
played lights out. Surprisingly, they've been one of the best
defenses in Vic Fangio's first season defensive coordinator. But you
mentioned George Pickens. Mike Walliams will play a bigger roll tomorrows.

Speaker 3 (01:42:42):
I understand it.

Speaker 11 (01:42:43):
He's practiced very well.

Speaker 16 (01:42:43):
I'm told they're pretty happy with the way he's looked,
so he figures to be a bigger factor. To Sharon Elliott,
who's been had a breakout season. They think he should
be a pro bowler. He's not going to play Ogunjobi,
one of the d tackles is out again. That does
worry me. And Eagles are one of the healthy teams
in the National Football League. Every man on the fifty
three man roster, say for a special team player, City

(01:43:05):
Brown will be available. There's the healthiest team and out
expect Filly to win this game.

Speaker 2 (01:43:09):
Final word on the Eagles and the end of our
conversation here, can you see the Eagles doing to Jalen
Hurts what the Rams did with Jared Goff in terms
of me and it's saying that we have everything in
place to win a Super Bowl, but we are getting
subpar play from the quarterback. Which is why the Rams

(01:43:31):
traded Golf to get Matthew Stafford, and obviously it resulted
in a Super Bowl championship. Now a couple of years later,
you might think again about that trade. But do you
think the Eagles, especially with the kind of contract that
they gave Jalen Hurts, might actually be shopping him.

Speaker 3 (01:43:49):
It would have to be like the you know, the Golf.

Speaker 2 (01:43:51):
Stafford deal was a blockbuster deal to get another quarterback.

Speaker 3 (01:43:56):
Could you see the Eagles doing something like that.

Speaker 11 (01:43:58):
Well, Steve, so simple.

Speaker 16 (01:44:00):
If Hurts is the reason they don't get to the
super Bowl, everything you said is in play. I just
know the way it works in the National Football League.
If you have a roster like the Eagles have, and
I would think they would tell you, as I've talked
to the Eagles about this, the roster is probably better
than they anticipated. They didn't think all the like Zach
Bond has come out of nowhere. I back up his
entire career. He's now arguably on the level of Fred

(01:44:23):
Warner of the Niners. Okay, there's certain things that have
happened with that football team you couldn't know before the
season started. But right now, Jalen Hurts his play sticks
out like a sore thumb. He won't pull the trigger
on throw us. Watch this game tomorrow in Philly. If
he's protected and he doesn't pull the trigger, they're in trouble.
Because you saw what Joe Burrow did to the Steelers.
I mean, he did a great job and gets someone

(01:44:44):
who's Joe Borrow and he's a great quarterback. But if
the opportunities are there and he doesn't pull the trigger.
It's a microcosm of the season. It's really interesting. Steve,
before we get out of here two years ago, find
a more aggressive throw than Jalen Hurts.

Speaker 11 (01:44:57):
Now he's risk adverse. He won't throw the football.

Speaker 2 (01:44:59):
Yeah. Oh, he's not the quarterback we saw when he
was the best quarterback in the field in that super.

Speaker 3 (01:45:04):
Loss of the Chiefs. Unbelievable. Where has that guy gone?

Speaker 2 (01:45:08):
Great stuff, Adham, We're going to look forward to a
big Week fifteen in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (01:45:12):
Thanks so much. We'll talk to you next week.

Speaker 11 (01:45:14):
Sounds good.

Speaker 2 (01:45:14):
Facts Adam Kaplan, Johnny Us, there are Fox Sports Radio,
NFL Insider.

Speaker 3 (01:45:19):
Things are getting very interesting. Indeed, all right, let's find
out what is trendy right now?

Speaker 2 (01:45:25):
How about you, Martin? Would you consider dealing Jalen Hurts
if you were the Philadelphia Eagles.

Speaker 10 (01:45:32):
I think the bigger question is what team would be
considered as buyers for Jalen Hurts?

Speaker 3 (01:45:36):
But I would. I mean, I mean, you got two
amazing wide receivers.

Speaker 2 (01:45:43):
Do you not on that team?

Speaker 3 (01:45:44):
I think you have one of the best rosters in
the NFL.

Speaker 10 (01:45:47):
Yeah, offensive line, you got MVP candidate and running back
and a J. Brown and then I'll wait, the other
guy won the Heisman.

Speaker 2 (01:45:54):
Yeah, so, DeVante Smith, I mean, do you just feel
like you're not maxing out too supremely talented wide receivers.

Speaker 3 (01:46:01):
I mean, and aj Brown is sort of throwing it
out there. Yeah, Oll, he'd like it to be thrown
out there more so you can catch it.

Speaker 11 (01:46:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:46:10):
Four catches forty three Steve, they should have lost last
week to the Panthers.

Speaker 10 (01:46:14):
Yeah, yeah, if Xavier and Lgett doesn't drop that ball,
yeah exactly. And that's a touchdown. And I don't know
how many more passing ares to the one OA total
that Jalen Hurts had. Do you think he would have
added on and that potential game potential drive that would
have been game winning had to have to be the case.

Speaker 3 (01:46:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:46:31):
So yeah, Well, I I said, and you just heard
from Adam who's very close by the way covering the Eagles,
and yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:46:39):
So he knows that if they deem Hurts the reason
they don't get to the Super Bowl, something's going to happen.

Speaker 10 (01:46:48):
Well, like Carson Wentz before him, Yeah exactly. Navy beat
Army thirty one to thirteen. Blake Corvat through three interceptions
and the game Rvin came in eleven and one, ranked
the eighteenth and the coaches had outside an argument for
making the college football Playoff, but obviously did not, but
losing this game tough for them. East for side, North

(01:47:08):
Carolina senior quarterback Bryce Baker announced his commitment to recently
higher North Carolina football head coach Bill Belichick and the
tar Heels. Baker was committed to Mac Brown, the eighth
rainth quarterback in the class, took an official visit to
Penn State after Brown and North Carolina parted ways. Also,
Bill Belichick introduced at North Carolina's basketball game today to
a rousing ovation. Chiefs activate kicker Harrison Bucker from injury

(01:47:31):
reserve and release kicker matthew Wright. Starting left tackle DJ
Humphries is out with a hamstring injury. The Bears list
running back DeAndre Swift is questionable from month to night
football in versus Minnesota with a groin Vikings quarterbacks Stefan
Gilmour questionable with a hamstring. Raiders defensive end Max Crosby
to undergo ankle surgery. His twenty twenty four is likely
over same with Trayvon Diggs. Cowboys quarterback. He's been ruled

(01:47:55):
out for tomorrow against the Panthers, but Jay Glazier reporting
he'll miss the rest of the season with a knee injury.
With seven minutes left in the fourth quarter in the
first game of the end, I'm sorry, I shouldn't laugh.

Speaker 3 (01:48:08):
The NBA Cup Semifinals. You can laugh. It's like it's
it's December fourteenth.

Speaker 11 (01:48:13):
This is not a real tournament.

Speaker 10 (01:48:15):
The Milwaukee Bucks I have a one point lead over
the Hawks, ninety one to ninety.

Speaker 3 (01:48:20):
Like I said, sixty two left in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 10 (01:48:23):
Zachary Rishache it is one for three from the floor,
not necessarily doing anything special, but he's got a cool name.
Trey Young with twenty seven points and Giannis Antitokumpo with
I had it right here with twenty two points, Damien
Little with twenty three. The Brooklyn Nets traded Dennis Schroeder
to the Golden State Warriors for the Anthony Melton and

(01:48:44):
three second round picks.

Speaker 3 (01:48:46):
Steven Montci after you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:48:47):
By the way, remember last year when the Lakers won
the NBA Cup. They have absolutely no intention of putting
up a banner. You know you've won seventeen NBA championships.
We're not going to put up an NBA Cup banner
until the league said, oh, yes you are.

Speaker 10 (01:49:03):
You know said the media gave the Lakers a lot
of flak for that, and it was like this is
an Adam Silver mandate folkus.

Speaker 3 (01:49:10):
No, it was an absolute like they made them have.

Speaker 2 (01:49:13):
The Lakers had zero intention of putting up any recognition
for an NBA Cup for a franchise it's won seventeen
NBA championships.

Speaker 10 (01:49:23):
I like Steve car a couple of days ago saying
and being mad about that foul call at the end
of the game.

Speaker 4 (01:49:28):
We wanted to go to Vegas, and then they came
out and said that the foul was a correct call.

Speaker 2 (01:49:33):
This is all fake, fake, fake phony fuone pro wrestling.

Speaker 4 (01:49:37):
This this Bucks Hawks game. We could have gone Steve
for twenty nine dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:49:41):
Twenty nine dollars.

Speaker 4 (01:49:42):
Also the thunder Rockets game, Like, if we all want
to go to Vegas, it's also twenty nine.

Speaker 3 (01:49:45):
What about that? By the way, the championship game.

Speaker 2 (01:49:48):
If you don't know how this all works, all these
games count as regular season games except the NBA. The
NBA Cup Championship game, which is literally an exhibition game.

Speaker 3 (01:49:59):
It doesn't count any of the stats anywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:50:02):
In fact, try to find the box score on NBA
Reference of that championship.

Speaker 3 (01:50:09):
Game last year in the NBA Cup.

Speaker 2 (01:50:11):
Oh, interesting, it doesn't exist because the game didn't count
at all.

Speaker 3 (01:50:16):
EKSP for giving these guys some wild bonuses.

Speaker 5 (01:50:19):
Well, can we can go to this year's NBA Cup
Final on December seventeenth.

Speaker 4 (01:50:24):
The get in price is thirty nine dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:50:27):
Thirty nine bucks. I guess you get some good seats
there in Vegas. Once again, Fox Football Saturday. We're coming
live from the tirerak dot com studios. By the way,
this Army Navy game, So Bryson Daily, the Army quarterback's
already been announced that he finished sixth in the Heisman
Trophy voting. Okay, he ran for twenty nine touchdowns, which

(01:50:48):
is the same as Ashton gentis Well today. Bryson Daily
had seven of sixteen passed sixty five yards, one touchdown
in three interceptions. He had fifty two yards rushing and
no touchdowns. Navy runs the same offense. Their quarterback Blake
Horvath through for one hundred and seven yards, two touchdowns
and no picks, and he ran for two hundred and

(01:51:11):
four yards rushing and two touchdowns. So those are the
numbers everyone expected Bryson Daily to have, but ironically it's
the Navy quarterback that puts him up as Navy really
routes Army today thirty one to thirteen. So Army wins

(01:51:34):
the AAC Championship game, but then get blown out by Navy. Now,
and this is how you that's how you end the season,
and for Bryson Daily, not the way he wanted to
end his season after a phenomenal year for him. But wow,
no one saw that one coming. All right, coming up

(01:51:55):
on the other side, it's back.

Speaker 3 (01:51:58):
It's back.

Speaker 2 (01:51:59):
That's right. Who's your Daddy's right? If you don't know
about it, you're about to find out. This is Fox
Football Saturday.

Speaker 15 (01:52:08):
Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio, Steve Hartman, Montsiblano is
Fox Football Saturday.

Speaker 2 (01:52:16):
We're coming alve from the Tyraq dot Com studios.

Speaker 3 (01:52:19):
All right, once again, it's that time.

Speaker 4 (01:52:25):
Oh, Brian Finley was in that Yes, fan, BeFAN, we
miss you, we love you. F Yeah, we're glad you're
part of this still. Yeah, we haven't done this in
a while since.

Speaker 2 (01:52:36):
By the way, Befen stumped me every time, but some
of his questions got ridiculous.

Speaker 5 (01:52:39):
Of course, no, and we only let him do that
because it was Brian Fentley. But he did stump you
a few times.

Speaker 2 (01:52:45):
We'll see how we come back after a couple of weeks.

Speaker 4 (01:52:49):
Months without doing Who's Your Daddy?

Speaker 17 (01:52:50):
Where we try to stump Steve Hartman, I will start,
but all of us have a question here, okay, in
honor of Thanksgiving that just passed by, Yes, who was
the first sipient of.

Speaker 4 (01:53:01):
The Turkey Leg? The MVP on a Thanksgiving game in
nineteen eighty nine?

Speaker 11 (01:53:09):
Wow?

Speaker 3 (01:53:10):
I that's this?

Speaker 7 (01:53:12):
This this, this, this, this, this.

Speaker 2 (01:53:15):
Nineteen eighty nine Turkey Leg? Was that a Cowboys game
or a Lions game?

Speaker 4 (01:53:25):
It was a Cowboys game against the Eagles.

Speaker 2 (01:53:30):
Well, the Cowboys in nineteen eighty nine won one game,
so the Eagles had to win that game.

Speaker 3 (01:53:36):
So what Eagle in nineteen eighty nine?

Speaker 18 (01:53:39):
Was it?

Speaker 2 (01:53:42):
Ranald Cunningham?

Speaker 7 (01:53:43):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:53:46):
Would you like another guess?

Speaker 3 (01:53:48):
Who else would it have been?

Speaker 7 (01:53:50):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:53:50):
I don't have another guest.

Speaker 4 (01:53:51):
Who was a linebacker? Reggie White? Who was the first ever?

Speaker 12 (01:53:56):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:53:56):
What Reggie White was not a linebacker?

Speaker 12 (01:53:59):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:54:00):
Was the legendary defensive lineman. My bad for the Eagles.

Speaker 4 (01:54:04):
There you go, Reggie White.

Speaker 2 (01:54:05):
I shouldn't. I should have said Reggie White as well.
But yeah, okay, Reggie White.

Speaker 4 (01:54:10):
Reggie White in nineteen eighty nine.

Speaker 3 (01:54:12):
All right, I knew the Cowboys didn't win that game.

Speaker 2 (01:54:15):
They were one in fifteen that year. That was Jerry
Jones first year with Jimmy Johnson.

Speaker 3 (01:54:18):
There, that's a good one.

Speaker 10 (01:54:19):
I like that.

Speaker 4 (01:54:20):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:54:20):
All Right, that's a good one.

Speaker 4 (01:54:21):
Let's see go to our producer Ryan, who's got one
for you?

Speaker 2 (01:54:25):
Hello?

Speaker 9 (01:54:25):
Steve?

Speaker 2 (01:54:26):
What's going on? Birsh It's fun to hang out today?

Speaker 3 (01:54:30):
Yes, hanging out today here? All right, I'm sure you've
got a doozy of a question.

Speaker 9 (01:54:35):
Well, in case the people haven't heard, Steve Hartman has
a Heisman vote. He votes for Isisman?

Speaker 4 (01:54:41):
What serious?

Speaker 3 (01:54:43):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:54:43):
Thanks?

Speaker 9 (01:54:43):
Mary Mack I do tonight the Heisman Trophy will be
presented now. If Travis Hunter wins the Heisman, Yes, he
would become the third player ever to wear the number
twelve to win the Heisman? Steve, who are the other
two number twelves to win the Heisman?

Speaker 4 (01:54:59):
Nice?

Speaker 3 (01:55:00):
Im gonna say? Roger Staubach and Charles White.

Speaker 9 (01:55:02):
Wow, yeah, that's so sick that you know this.

Speaker 8 (01:55:08):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:55:08):
Roger Staubach, of course is the famous one. But how
many think USC running back Charles White word number twelve.

Speaker 3 (01:55:14):
But I know he did beautiful, So I get double
points on that one.

Speaker 11 (01:55:19):
That was good.

Speaker 4 (01:55:19):
Yeah, that was impressive, mate, that right off the top
of the right away.

Speaker 5 (01:55:23):
Okay, moving over to our news desk, Martin's got one
for you.

Speaker 10 (01:55:28):
It's no way, Steve, no way, no way, and promise you, Birch.
I told him this earlier today.

Speaker 3 (01:55:34):
He had no idea. He was like, you're right now,
all right. So yeah, this man.

Speaker 10 (01:55:41):
Broke the third longest of such streak of third longest
streak in his in NFL history.

Speaker 3 (01:55:49):
And also, you know what, I'll go ahead and say it.
This person broke the third longest losing streak in the
NFL history, like with the game winning play.

Speaker 15 (01:56:01):
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:56:02):
Okay, So it was all I gotta figure out what
was the third longest losing streak by any team in
NFL history?

Speaker 3 (01:56:09):
Es, and then this person broke it by a play
or yes, he the he was the person who made
the game winning play.

Speaker 2 (01:56:18):
Okay, So the longest losing streak in NFL history was
the Buccaneers.

Speaker 3 (01:56:23):
They lost twenty six in a row. Yes, it's less
than that.

Speaker 2 (01:56:26):
Yes. And then, so who would have had the third
longest losing stree I would imagine was the Lions. No,
you mean when they went oh sixteen, that wasn't part
of the longest losing streak of all time.

Speaker 3 (01:56:39):
No, no, I'm the third longest losing, third longest. I'll
give you a hit.

Speaker 10 (01:56:42):
It happened in the last five years, last five years. Yes,
see see that's what that's what they all do.

Speaker 11 (01:56:48):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (01:56:48):
So the Cleveland no no, no, no, no, the Cleveland
clan up no no, no, no no last five years.

Speaker 3 (01:56:54):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:56:54):
So Cleveland Browns were one and thirty one, so they're
over a two year span. So it's got to be
the Browns that had this streak.

Speaker 3 (01:57:02):
Sorry, Steve, that's a it's incorrect. That's not correct.

Speaker 11 (01:57:07):
Dancing.

Speaker 3 (01:57:07):
You're asking me. You're asking me you had the third
longest losing streak of all time.

Speaker 10 (01:57:12):
I was asking you who was the player that broke
the third longest lose shall.

Speaker 19 (01:57:18):
Was the third longest losing the legendary college coach's first
win in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (01:57:25):
So that was Urban Meyer's first win in the NFL.
You go, and so the player that was responsible for
him winning a game? I will give you on a
third hint, Steve, So it was not Tim Tebow who
was his tight end during the preseason.

Speaker 19 (01:57:43):
Here a third hint, Steve. Yeah, the player is in
the news today. I've said his name at least seven
times today. How much attention have you been paying to
the top and bottom of the hour updates?

Speaker 2 (01:57:57):
I wonder I've been hearing only the UCLA score. Let's
see Army Navy. So, Bill Belichick, you mentioned no Harrison Butker, Oh,
Harrison Bucker. Oh, she's getting warmer, she's getting closer, she is,

(01:58:18):
I'm listening. Okay, Bucker is off the injured list. He's
been reinstated by the Chiefs, replacing the guy.

Speaker 3 (01:58:27):
That he replaced. Yeah, is that the guy? That's right?

Speaker 1 (01:58:32):
That's right, the guy you nailed it from.

Speaker 6 (01:58:38):
Champion.

Speaker 3 (01:58:39):
Well, let's stop.

Speaker 2 (01:58:40):
Who's the longest third longest losing streak?

Speaker 3 (01:58:43):
The Jacksonville Jaguars it twenty in a row. They lost
twenty in a row. Yet did they really twenty in
a row?

Speaker 10 (01:58:53):
All right, you go, so twenty nine Chicago Cardinals, but
Tampa Bay was twenty six, Jacksonville twenty.

Speaker 3 (01:59:00):
GLYNT nineteen said that Lions teamed also tied for nineteen.

Speaker 10 (01:59:04):
Matthew Wright kicked the game winning field goal to break
the twenty game losing streak for the Jacksonville Jaguars and
also give Urban Meyer his first NFL win, and he
joinked n afield goal last week.

Speaker 3 (01:59:16):
To push the Kansas City Chiefs to another win and
gets released.

Speaker 2 (01:59:20):
Anybody gonna pick this guy up?

Speaker 4 (01:59:22):
No, no, he said, all right, Well that that was
in honor of.

Speaker 3 (01:59:28):
Brian Fillley from the news desk. Yeah, try that one
beside Steve the up.

Speaker 6 (01:59:33):
The anchors always win.

Speaker 2 (01:59:36):
It's you see how that works, Mary mac. They just
they find a way to really dig deep. But you
know what, I asked for that kind of stuff.

Speaker 11 (01:59:44):
Now I know.

Speaker 2 (01:59:46):
Now I can use that, and you will never forget.

Speaker 3 (01:59:48):
I will never forget.

Speaker 2 (01:59:49):
What's his name again?

Speaker 3 (01:59:51):
Right writes his name? That's right, that's right, that UCF
team that went undefeated.

Speaker 2 (01:59:56):
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Speaker 3 (02:00:28):
So this is one of those days.

Speaker 2 (02:00:29):
It's very exciting for me because it's Heisman Trophy day
and there doesn't seem to be a lot of suspense
and who is actually gonna walk away with a trophy?
I will reveal well tomorrow on the show, I'll reveal
who I voted for in the Heisman Trophy, but all

(02:00:51):
eyes are on Travis Hunter. And you know, it's interesting
because we're gonna have a non quarterback win and we
haven't had a lot of those. Smith won during COVID
year and twenty twenty. Last running back to win it
was Derrick Henry way back in twenty fifteen. It's hard
to believe how the game has changed over the years

(02:01:11):
because when I grew up, really as a college football fan,
it was always about the running backs. In fact, between
nineteen seventy one and nineteen eighty four, Doug Flutey when
he won the Heisman Trophy in nineteen eighty four at
Boston College. He was the first quarterback to win in
thirteen years, if you can believe that. Oh but really,

(02:01:33):
since two thousand, quarterbacks have completely dominated this award. So
I know, Dylan Gabriel's there, cam Ward's there, they got
a nice trip. But it really comes down to two guys.
They're both deserving. I mean, Travis Hunter obviously an insane year.
Ashton genty almost twenty five one hundred yards rushing in
twenty nine touchdowns. He never had less than one hundred

(02:01:55):
and twenty five yards rushing in any game this year.
So both these guys very, very and it just, like
I said, the thing that gets to me. And they'll
do the interviews with the players, and they'll interview the
families and then they make that announcement. Of course, they
always line up all the former Heisman winners that return
behind them and it's like, welcome to the club. And

(02:02:19):
I have I know, on a personal level, I know
a number of Heisman Trophy winners and I've certainly interviewed
I actually interviewed the very first Heisman Trophy winner and
he corrected me when he came on the show. So
in nineteen thirty five, the Downtown Athletic Club of New
York decided to give out an award. The first year

(02:02:41):
was actually best player East of the Mississippi. But this
player actually was the best college football player in the
nation that year. His name was Jay Burwanger. He was
an all purpose back like football played back in the day,
played at the University of Chicago, which was then a
member of what we now know is the Big Ten.

(02:03:02):
Four years later they gave up football. So you look
at like Chicago, Chicago, what what is he? And to
show you about Jay Burwinger. He was also the first
pick in the first ever NFL draft by the Bears,
and he said, I'm not interested in professional football. He
went on to a long career in business and became
a very successful man. Well, there wasn't a lot of
money back in the day. But I asked him, I said, well,

(02:03:25):
how was it that first year? He goes, well, you know,
it's a new award obviously, and I'm in Chicago and
they're going to pay for me to go to New
York to pick up this award. And it wasn't the
Heisman Trophy. And the story was this, The trophy looks
exactly like it does today. But the Downtown Athletic Club,

(02:03:45):
the director of the club was a former college football
coach named John Heisman. They'd actually asked Heisman about naming
the award after him, and he said, no, let's just it's.

Speaker 3 (02:03:58):
So John Heisman was there.

Speaker 2 (02:04:00):
So Jay Berwanger got the trophy was known as the
Downtown Athletic Club Trophy from John Heisman. The next year,
John Heisman died, so they renamed the award the Heisman
Memorial Trophy. So the first winner technically did not actually
get the Heisman Trophy. He got the Downtown Athletic cro

(02:04:24):
It is the same trophy, but it was renamed the
following year after Heisman actually passed away, so.

Speaker 4 (02:04:30):
The trophy has been the same the whole time.

Speaker 7 (02:04:32):
Though.

Speaker 2 (02:04:32):
The trophy has never changed, and it's the most iconic
trophy in American sports.

Speaker 3 (02:04:37):
I don't think there's any question about that.

Speaker 6 (02:04:39):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 2 (02:04:41):
There's so many great stories about the Heisman. In fact,
one of the Mark Harmon, you know, the actor Mark Harmon. Yes, yes,
thank you, yes, so Mark Harmon. His father, Tom Harmon,
was a superstar in college at the University of Michigan,
and he won the Heisman Trophy in nineteen and he
was dating this actress at the time who would become

(02:05:04):
Mark Harmon's mother, and she saw this impressive looking trophy
and he was saying, yeah, that this is a really
rare trophy. So they went out to dinner with friends
of theirs, who also happened to be a former Heightsman winner,
and then later in the week they went to have
dinner with another front of his who also was a
former heights winner. So after the third one, she's driving

(02:05:27):
home and she goes, I thought you had said this
thing was like exclusive. Everyone we know has one of
these trophies.

Speaker 1 (02:05:33):
What's the deal?

Speaker 2 (02:05:35):
Both can be true.

Speaker 14 (02:05:36):
It is exclusive, and you also know everyone who's got one.
They only make two a year, and one for the
school and one for the player. One for the school,
one for the player. And you know who started that
with Steve Spurrier.

Speaker 2 (02:05:47):
So Steve Spurrier, the legendary coach, won it when he
was a quarterback of the University of Florida, and he
decided to give his award to the university. And that's
when they came up with the idea that, well, maybe
we should have made one for the University to display, yes,
and then one obviously for the winner.

Speaker 5 (02:06:04):
Yeah, I'm surprised I wasn't. From the beginning I got
it became a thing.

Speaker 2 (02:06:07):
Yeah, so that's a little history there with the Heisman Trophy.
The more you know, have you seen a Heisman Trophy
in person? No, you know, you could easily see one
down at USC they get get eight of them on display.

Speaker 4 (02:06:20):
Yeah. The times I've been, well they didn't have it
on display.

Speaker 2 (02:06:23):
Well, they didn't have Reggie Regis, but Reggie's Backgie is back.

Speaker 4 (02:06:26):
But I don't think I've been to us, but I
don't think I've seen one in person.

Speaker 3 (02:06:31):
Yeah, it's it's a huge award. I mean I've held
one and it's heavy.

Speaker 2 (02:06:36):
It looks heavy, it looks heavy.

Speaker 3 (02:06:37):
It is heavy. Yeah, but somebody's going to be very
lucky to hoist that thing up tonight.

Speaker 4 (02:06:42):
We're still pretending we don't know somebody.

Speaker 3 (02:06:44):
Well, here's the thing about Travis Hunter.

Speaker 2 (02:06:46):
I mean, it's hard to argue against him, right, it
is when you look at his numbers, and you know,
especially when you're talking about being a cornerback. You see interceptions,
all right, four interceptions, But some of the numbers that
he he posted as a corner because this is going
to be a decision that he's going to have to
make and an NFL team is going to have to make,

(02:07:07):
is what do we do with this guy right now?
Deon Sanders did play some wide receiver in the NFL.
Of course, he was the shutdown corner in the Hall
of Fame as a corner, he.

Speaker 3 (02:07:20):
Did play some wide receiver. My guess is that Hunter
would like to do that.

Speaker 2 (02:07:25):
M h.

Speaker 3 (02:07:27):
It's just given that opportunity.

Speaker 2 (02:07:29):
Look, there were a lot of people that thought sho
hey Otani was out of his mind to be both
a pitcher and a hitter, like that's just not happening,
and he just made it happen.

Speaker 4 (02:07:39):
Yeah, I know. He's a good example. But in reality, right,
football and baseball very different.

Speaker 3 (02:07:44):
They are day and night, and it's a very physical thing.

Speaker 6 (02:07:47):
And that's it what it is.

Speaker 2 (02:07:48):
If you invest a lot of money in him as
a defensive back and then use him as a receiver
and he gets hurt, and then it's like, wow, what
did we just do?

Speaker 4 (02:07:57):
But then if you let him do it and he succeeds,
it's hard.

Speaker 11 (02:08:03):
Like I'm with you.

Speaker 4 (02:08:04):
I'm assuming Travis Hunter is going to approach any team
and be like, I want to do both. It's just
a matter of convincing him that it's not.

Speaker 3 (02:08:11):
What's interesting about it about playing both ways.

Speaker 2 (02:08:14):
A lot of people listening out there, if you played
high school football, like you know Rich Ornberger, our dear
friend Rich in high school played both ways. He was
a lineman on offense and he was a lineman on defense.
That's not that uncommon at the high school level. It's
not unprecedent. At the college level.

Speaker 3 (02:08:30):
We've seen it before.

Speaker 2 (02:08:31):
Champ Bailey certainly did it at Georgia his last year.
The year after, you know, Charles Woodson won. So it's
not that uncommon. But in the NFL now, that now.

Speaker 4 (02:08:40):
Seems like it's a hard no.

Speaker 6 (02:08:43):
Yeah, it seems like it's a hard no.

Speaker 3 (02:08:45):
But there might be situations where you use him.

Speaker 2 (02:08:47):
That's what I would do. I would play him at
the corner and then if situations arise, throw him in
there at wide receivers.

Speaker 5 (02:08:54):
Right, It's like, we want you to take most of
your snaps at the corner, but we can sprinkle in
some other one. We could have some plays designed for you,
and you know that that might be the happy medium.

Speaker 2 (02:09:06):
So I know, manci that you are not the biggest
college football not because you don't really have a horse
in the race.

Speaker 4 (02:09:13):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I just have a team.

Speaker 2 (02:09:16):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:09:17):
Although I do like the.

Speaker 5 (02:09:20):
Arkansas Pine Buffs pine Bluff, Yeah, because their their mascot
is amazing.

Speaker 2 (02:09:28):
That thing Arkansas Pine Bluff's mascot is amazing.

Speaker 4 (02:09:31):
Yeah, I'm gonna show to you right now.

Speaker 2 (02:09:33):
I never even knew. Okay, I'm show you right.

Speaker 3 (02:09:36):
I don't even know. I know Arkansas Pine Bluff, but
I don't that one.

Speaker 11 (02:09:40):
What is there?

Speaker 2 (02:09:40):
I'm gonna show it to you. Look at that What
the hell?

Speaker 4 (02:09:46):
It is like a lion, but his maine is the
initials of the but it's the initials of the school.

Speaker 8 (02:09:54):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (02:09:55):
See, I know this is like when I once I
saw this, I was like, well, I guess.

Speaker 6 (02:09:59):
This could be my amazing I know, did you see this?

Speaker 4 (02:10:05):
I'm not entirely sure how I came across it, but.

Speaker 2 (02:10:08):
When I do, how would anybody like? Oh, yeah, I
was stumbling through Arkansas Pine Bluff and saw their logo
and I'm like, yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:10:16):
That's me.

Speaker 4 (02:10:17):
You're now.

Speaker 5 (02:10:18):
I remember I remember I was on the Doug Gottlieb
Show and we were talking about mascots, and I was like, well,
I don't know about college.

Speaker 2 (02:10:24):
You know mascots like that.

Speaker 4 (02:10:25):
So I went in and I started looking so I
could pick a mascot, and that's.

Speaker 2 (02:10:29):
How I got to it.

Speaker 4 (02:10:30):
But I had to research it was I was on
the Doug Gottlieb Show, because you know, Doug loves college,
so he's like, let's.

Speaker 3 (02:10:35):
Pick our favorite mascots, yes.

Speaker 4 (02:10:37):
And I was like, oh no, I don't know many
mascots in college. And I researched, came across this, and
I said.

Speaker 2 (02:10:43):
This is going to be my team, all right, so
this is going to catch like wildfire. Now how social
media works. Now, it's Manzie announced that Arkansas Pine Bluff
has the coolest logo, is the coolest you even your
reaction was perfect, I did.

Speaker 3 (02:10:57):
I had no idea.

Speaker 2 (02:10:58):
All right, Well, let's just see how how many people
on social media will pick up on that and run
with it.

Speaker 3 (02:11:03):
I'm going to guess millions, millions, all right.

Speaker 2 (02:11:06):
Coming up on the other side, we're going to get
to some of these NFL matchups in Week fifteen, some
prime games that could have huge, huge impact on who's
going to end up in the postseason. This is Fox
Football Saturday. Here it is rando. Ye, just think about this.
She recorded that. First of all, does she sound like

(02:11:26):
a thirteen year old?

Speaker 7 (02:11:27):
No?

Speaker 4 (02:11:27):
I didn't know she was thirteen until you said it
in the last hour.

Speaker 2 (02:11:30):
Four foot nine, right, Ben, she at age eight. I
my imagine my little bit less. Yeah, And was recorded
in nineteen fifty eight and last year twenty twenty three,
sixty five years later, it hit number one on the charts,
unprecedented in the history of the music charts.

Speaker 3 (02:11:52):
And she knocked off Mariah Carrer.

Speaker 5 (02:11:53):
She knocked off Mariah Carey. No, she does not sound
like a thirteen year old. I can't get over that.

Speaker 3 (02:11:57):
Yeah, this is a thirteen year old girl singing. Uh yeah.
By the way, she was asked, do you remember recording
this song?

Speaker 14 (02:12:06):
Right?

Speaker 3 (02:12:06):
She goes, well, here's what she remember. It was recorded
in Nashville.

Speaker 2 (02:12:10):
She was a big country music star and obviously a
protegee because she obviously had an adult voice, you know,
as a as a little girl.

Speaker 3 (02:12:19):
And she goes, here's what I remember. It was the
middle of the summer, so it was you know, hot
and humid in Nashville.

Speaker 2 (02:12:26):
So they decorated the studio, you know, to sort of
get us an effestive moves, Christmas decorations, everything, and then
they turned up the air conditions to try to chill
the air a little bit because it was so hot outside.
To turny that that's what she remembered as a thirteen
year old recording that song.

Speaker 4 (02:12:46):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (02:12:46):
That is still very much to play constantly, Top top three,
Top three absolutely.

Speaker 3 (02:12:53):
What would you say? Also wham? I mean if Mariah.

Speaker 4 (02:12:57):
Carrys one, Marik is one of them for sure.

Speaker 3 (02:12:59):
Yeah, what would your third song.

Speaker 4 (02:13:03):
Of the Red Nose Reindeer?

Speaker 2 (02:13:04):
I feel like that has to that's still happening because
I'm trying to think of like contemporary now, like what's hot?

Speaker 3 (02:13:12):
It's wrong on the song.

Speaker 2 (02:13:13):
The reason I asked this because my daughter Paris, who's
twenty three, she plays Mariah Carey. She plays that song right,
and then I'm thinking she has the uh, let me
see wham song less Christmas game? Sure is that in
the mix, y'all? Not forgetting simply.

Speaker 4 (02:13:35):
Habit a lot of.

Speaker 2 (02:13:38):
Yeah, so that's another one. Yeah, there's like a contemporary
see I go old Sky, I mean I would there's
a Louis Armstrong Christmas song too, if there's a lot
of people are playing now, I mean also back in
the day with a bing Crasby and all those.

Speaker 3 (02:13:52):
But I'm talking about what's.

Speaker 5 (02:13:53):
But that's not but also oh Mistletoe by Justin Bieber,
that's always getting.

Speaker 3 (02:13:57):
Played, that's always getting played now.

Speaker 2 (02:13:58):
Oh, but is it a top three? Like well, Brenda
Leez is doctor yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:14:04):
Rock for sure, and then Mariah Carey for sure, for sure.

Speaker 2 (02:14:07):
So what's the third. I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 4 (02:14:13):
We won't have to just make a list of all
the Christmas songs and then like that.

Speaker 3 (02:14:17):
So that's a long list.

Speaker 2 (02:14:19):
Jingle bell rock.

Speaker 4 (02:14:20):
Isn't that what they do in Mean Girls jingle bag?

Speaker 2 (02:14:22):
Oh yeah, actually that might be.

Speaker 3 (02:14:27):
Okay, all right, very very good.

Speaker 2 (02:14:30):
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of different things on this show. All Right, I'm really
excited about tomorrow with Week fifteen in the NFL. Not

(02:15:00):
excited about the morning games. Yeah, I mean, you know,
and Adam Kaplan brought this out. How can you not
flex flex out some of these games?

Speaker 4 (02:15:10):
I know, like the Bills Lions.

Speaker 2 (02:15:12):
Well, yeah, the Bills Lions on it at the exact
same time as the Steelers Eagles.

Speaker 3 (02:15:17):
Yeah, you couldn't flex that out?

Speaker 2 (02:15:19):
Yeah yeah, I mean really, I mean, how many people
are going to watch that second game of the doubleheader
Falcons at Raiders?

Speaker 5 (02:15:27):
So are you talking about I am, I'm just kidding.
I'm not, absolutely not. The Bears Vikings might be a
fun one to watch.

Speaker 3 (02:15:33):
I mean, I like the Sunday night game a lot
Packers Seahawks.

Speaker 4 (02:15:36):
Oh yeah, that's that's a big one.

Speaker 2 (02:15:38):
I mean, look at the Rams right now.

Speaker 7 (02:15:40):
You know.

Speaker 2 (02:15:40):
The funny thing is the Rams and the Chargers, the
fact that both these teams are very much in the
playoff picture and neither team is that good. Hey, I
mean they're just not. I mean, the Chargers have the
number one scoring defense in the league, but they have
no offense right at all?

Speaker 6 (02:16:01):
Right?

Speaker 3 (02:16:02):
And the Rams, well you saw what I saw on Thursday.

Speaker 5 (02:16:05):
Yeah, you know, Dan Bayer yesterday said that he has
a man crush on Sean McVay, and I said, I
was like, what's interesting is with the Rams, Like anytime
that there's a close matchup for the Rams, I the
one thing I always hear, I'm giving the edge to
the Rams because they.

Speaker 6 (02:16:22):
Have a good coach.

Speaker 3 (02:16:23):
But remember Saham always had his number, right, but not
this time, not this time. They swept the two this year.

Speaker 2 (02:16:29):
Like you're bringing up the point though, why are the
Rams and the Chargers, which are not great teams in
the mix?

Speaker 5 (02:16:36):
Their coaching, it's their coaches, it's their coach. Sean McVay
always is. Everyone's like, uh, I'm gonna give the Rams
the edge. They just have a better coach. They they
know what they're doing, they're being coached well. And you're right, Chargers,
look at them. Nobody was expecting the Chargers to be
in the situation and then the Rams was crazy.

Speaker 4 (02:16:50):
Is at the start of the season, remember they were like, oh,
maybe they're going to trade Cooper Cup, this is the
year they're going to rebuild, losing Aaron Donald and now
here they are since their bye week, La Rams are
seven and two.

Speaker 2 (02:17:02):
Sean McVay. I mean, people don't he's still like the
third youngest coach.

Speaker 3 (02:17:07):
In the NFL.

Speaker 2 (02:17:08):
Right, He's got a lot left in him.

Speaker 5 (02:17:10):
He's got a hot Ukrainian model wife that email when
he was coaching.

Speaker 3 (02:17:14):
It's like miss Universe.

Speaker 2 (02:17:15):
Yeah, he's doing real well.

Speaker 4 (02:17:18):
He's doing role well.

Speaker 2 (02:17:19):
Did I tell you when I first met him? No,
So what happened was when they hired him youngest head
coach in NFL history, thirty years old. I was familiar
with his grandfather, and you know, I'm doing the math
in my head like like he was born when I
was working for the Raiders, this guy. But I had
a friend of mine who longtime guy, that said, I

(02:17:44):
can get you an exclusive one on one interview.

Speaker 3 (02:17:46):
With this guy that the Rams just hired as a
head coach.

Speaker 2 (02:17:50):
I said, great.

Speaker 3 (02:17:51):
So he was.

Speaker 2 (02:17:51):
It was before the season had begun, his first season,
and you know it's like one of those clubs. Are
you doing a little speaking, he'd sort of introduce yourself
to all these you know, big rollers.

Speaker 3 (02:18:02):
And everything else. So I get back there with him,
and I sit down with this guy again.

Speaker 2 (02:18:07):
I'm trying to get some perspective, like how old this
guy is, and they remember they're coming off this disastrous
first year.

Speaker 3 (02:18:13):
In La my old high school.

Speaker 2 (02:18:16):
You know, Jeff Fisher was a disaster. Jared Goff was
so bad. I mean, I mean it was like it
wasn't like, Okay, he's a rookie. It's like, this guy
doesn't even belong in this league.

Speaker 11 (02:18:27):
Bad.

Speaker 2 (02:18:29):
So I sit down with this Sean McVay, I mean
immediately so he started talking.

Speaker 3 (02:18:34):
I'm like sort of blown away by this guy. Right,
he's just on top of it.

Speaker 2 (02:18:38):
But I said, all right, let's talk about your first job,
like how do you fix him? And it's funny because
he said, look, I brought in one of his former
teammates from Cal. He went to Cal Berkeley to sort
of just be by his side a little bit. I
guess the guy's with a backup quarterback or something like this.
I was seeing a little weird. The turnaround Jared Goff
from a year one of year or two was one
of the greatest turnarounds I've ever seen him life. They

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made the playoffs that first year and it only took
a few minutes sitting down with Sean McVay.

Speaker 3 (02:19:07):
You talk about mature beyond your years. Yeah. Yeah, A
lot of times I'm going back in my own head,
like Okay, where was I at?

Speaker 2 (02:19:14):
That's not a good time for me, you know, like, Okay,
I was completely out of control, still at age thirty,
still now, and this guy is all business and he's
raising the business. He knows the business. Sean McVay has
had a Hall of fame career as a coach already,
oh as already.

Speaker 4 (02:19:30):
And it's been a small sample.

Speaker 2 (02:19:32):
But how long is he going to stay? That's been
the question. I mean, there were hints that he was
going to leave. Obviously if he was, he could make
a lot of money doing television. Whatever he's made obviously
a lot of money. He doesn't strike me as a
guy that's going to be doing this job twenty years
from now.

Speaker 4 (02:19:48):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (02:19:49):
I thought maybe this year he would he would have,
you know, gone away from the NFL, especially because he
just had a kid.

Speaker 2 (02:19:57):
Yeah, so I don't know.

Speaker 4 (02:19:59):
I think with the way this season is going that
Itch is going nowhere. I don't think he's leaving anytime soon.

Speaker 3 (02:20:07):
I agree with you.

Speaker 2 (02:20:08):
I mean, when you were what he did last year
was I thought his best coaching job. Yeah, because coming
out that Super Bowl, I mean, twenty twenty two was
a disaster. I mean they just absolutely, You're just like,
all right, they're done. And then he came back last
year with a late streak when he ended the last
nine to get into the playoffs, and here they are again.
Yeah no, and then obviously we got you know, this

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Packers Seahawks game coming up. That's a tough call because
the Seahawks again are nobody in the NFC West. Is
all that good?

Speaker 4 (02:20:40):
Let's face it right right the Seahawks.

Speaker 2 (02:20:44):
You know.

Speaker 4 (02:20:45):
I was at the game in Arizona.

Speaker 3 (02:20:47):
Yeah, oh, how are you never even told me all
the details?

Speaker 14 (02:20:49):
My god.

Speaker 4 (02:20:49):
I we had a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (02:20:51):
We were literally, by the way, I got it really
late that night because there was an accident on the ten.
Where would I have found you at a like nine
thirty that night out the streets on the street. I
we walked away.

Speaker 5 (02:21:05):
We we didn't want to wait for like the uber
at which I love, State Farm Stadium.

Speaker 2 (02:21:10):
Loved it.

Speaker 4 (02:21:11):
I thought it was very It is a great stadium.

Speaker 5 (02:21:13):
I liked that there are screens at the end zones
on each side, not at the top like in most
other places.

Speaker 4 (02:21:19):
You're looking up at the screen. This one you're just
looking side to side. I loved that.

Speaker 5 (02:21:24):
After the game, we didn't want to like wait for
the uber line and all that, so we just started walking.
We just started walking away and we ended up at
like a red robin, waiting for traffic to die down.

Speaker 2 (02:21:32):
By the way, when they built that stadium, I was
there when Boise State beat Oklahoma and that oh you
just a bowl back in two thousands.

Speaker 3 (02:21:38):
There was nothing around that.

Speaker 5 (02:21:40):
I mean, we had to walk a little bit, but
it was just like the streets were closed. And then
the the like getting an uber or a lift was
like sixty dollars, and we're like absolutely, we're gonna go
drink and we're gonna go watch the Chiefs Chargers game
and wait for traffic to die down.

Speaker 2 (02:21:53):
And so that's what we were doing.

Speaker 4 (02:21:55):
And then we ended up I don't know what time
it was, and then I ended up at the you
know hotel bar.

Speaker 2 (02:21:58):
You know all the huge steam you know what I
do know tequila in Phoenix.

Speaker 5 (02:22:03):
We talk, of course tequila, lots of it, lots of it.
And then we literally slept for three hours, hopped on
a flight and came back home.

Speaker 3 (02:22:11):
That's the way.

Speaker 4 (02:22:12):
But I loved I love State Farm Stadium really did.

Speaker 6 (02:22:15):
I would go back.

Speaker 2 (02:22:16):
Oh, and there's a reason why it's had a lot
of Super Bowls And I loved everything. I mean that building,
that stadium in Glendale. At the time, literally it's like
where is this play? Yeah, it was like by itself.
Now they've built up.

Speaker 3 (02:22:28):
That area all around it.

Speaker 2 (02:22:30):
It's not far from where I live down there. I know,
I know it's like down the road. Yeah I did
you see yourself living.

Speaker 4 (02:22:35):
There when it's right See, because you told me about
the weather. You told me about the weather, So.

Speaker 3 (02:22:44):
It's one ten thirty consecutive days, you might consider other way.

Speaker 4 (02:22:47):
Well, thank you all.

Speaker 2 (02:22:49):
Let's find out what is a trending right now. And Martin,
have you been to the stadium in Glendale, Arizona?

Speaker 10 (02:22:56):
The basketball stadium in Phoenix, Arizona. Oh yes, I I
was at Radio Row in Phoenix, Arizona, but not did
not make it out to State Farm.

Speaker 7 (02:23:04):
No.

Speaker 6 (02:23:05):
Loved it, Yeah, yeah, yeah, a good time.

Speaker 3 (02:23:08):
The basketball arena downtown.

Speaker 2 (02:23:10):
The thing that bothers me about going downtown for Phoenix
is there's always construction going on.

Speaker 3 (02:23:15):
I don't know what it is.

Speaker 2 (02:23:16):
It's perpetual construction in downtown Phoenix, detours all over the place.

Speaker 3 (02:23:20):
Steve, I feel like that's common of most major it
is it is just constant construction.

Speaker 2 (02:23:26):
But when you're like hosting a super Bowl, you know,
or major sporting events, I couldn't even have waited.

Speaker 3 (02:23:33):
But they don't consider members of the media all that
important anyway. So it was incredibly hard to get to
Radio row dur.

Speaker 20 (02:23:40):
I remember I was there as well. I remember it
was a soccering nightmare. Yeah, I know you should have
seen it. Manti Steven, mad Dog Russo pounding up. It's like, hey,
between the two of us, we have like one hundred
and eighty years of radio.

Speaker 2 (02:23:52):
Well, Martin wanted to meet mad Dog, who's one of
my dearest friends super guy love him and uh. And
then what happened was I try to intervene, and Martin
showed me away, saying, I'm I can talk to you
anytime I have time with mad Dog right now.

Speaker 10 (02:24:08):
I was trying to do it, and I was listening
Brad Dogs. I was like seven years old. He's part
of the reason why I joined this god forsaken business.

Speaker 2 (02:24:17):
Chris and I we would like to share the story
of starting the first radio row back in Tampa in
nineteen ninety one. He was there with FRANCESSA and I
put a table next to him coming out from LA
and that was the first radio row at the Super Bowl.

Speaker 10 (02:24:31):
Wow, Lonzie, I'll say, he said, Chris and I like
to tell the story. Steve liked to tell the story
a lot more than Christy.

Speaker 2 (02:24:37):
Yeah, Chris saysn't talk about that.

Speaker 3 (02:24:38):
I do NBA Cups.

Speaker 10 (02:24:40):
On my finals game one in the books, Mi Milwaukee
Bucks won ten Atlanta Hawks one O two.

Speaker 3 (02:24:46):
So that was cool.

Speaker 10 (02:24:48):
The Rockets and the thunderplay coming up in a little bit.
Heidsman Trophy will be announced in a little bit starting
at eight o'clock on ESBN. Travis Hunter asked to JT
two of the May Finals on Gabriel up there as well.

Speaker 3 (02:25:00):
No schud or Sanders. So Steve Hartman's chagrin, Well, don't
you think he should have finished higher than eighth?

Speaker 6 (02:25:07):
Yes, yes, I do.

Speaker 3 (02:25:08):
I thought he'd be top five.

Speaker 10 (02:25:10):
I've found that I do not. My opinions are not
shared by most of the Heightsmen voters. I have contact
with Harrold, so I don't know the chiefs activate jacker
Harrison Bucker for injury, reserve the release legendary kicker matthew
Wright starting to tackle. DT Humphreys is out with a
hamstring injury. Bear's Lystandreschi is questionable for Monday Night football.
First Minnesota with a growing cornerback Stefan Gilmore for the

(02:25:32):
Vikings questionable as well. Raiders Jeep at the Vmax Crosby
his twenty twenty four seasons likely over after undergoing ankle surgery.
Treyvon Diggs, Cowboys quarnerback ruled out for tomorrow. Jay Glazier
reporting Diggs will miss the rest of the season with
a knee injury. Brooklyn Nets trade Dennis Schroeder to the
Golden State Warriors for d Anthony Melton in three second
round picks. And Bryce Baker is the first commit to

(02:25:55):
Bill Belichick and the North Carolina tar Heels. Who's the
eighth ranked quarterback and five class. He was already a
commit to North Carolina, but after the university in Mac
Brown parted ways. Baker took a visit to Penn State
and had interest from LSU, but committed to Old Billy Wow.

Speaker 3 (02:26:13):
First words were beat Duke. He said, beat Duke back
to you guys.

Speaker 2 (02:26:17):
All right, Martin, great stuff as always. Once again, this
is Fox Football Saturday. Steve Harven, Moncy Belanos were coming
you live from the tyrack dot Com studios. Okay, it
is that.

Speaker 16 (02:26:31):
Time.

Speaker 2 (02:26:33):
That's right, Oh Patrick, Hello.

Speaker 6 (02:26:36):
Pat Earned Hello, Steve Olomonsey.

Speaker 3 (02:26:39):
Hello, how are you? Patrick?

Speaker 6 (02:26:40):
I'm doing good?

Speaker 18 (02:26:41):
And you know I couldn't miss teaming up with the
true Game Day geniuses themselves. I'm looking right at and uh,
you know what Stephen Moncey, Boy, that was that was
a fun one last week with both you guys.

Speaker 11 (02:26:55):
Tell you what I was.

Speaker 18 (02:26:56):
I was.

Speaker 2 (02:26:57):
I was going to get eliminated. The Chief saved me,
absolutely saved me.

Speaker 6 (02:27:03):
Absolutely did actually and the.

Speaker 3 (02:27:06):
Under in that game.

Speaker 2 (02:27:07):
Otherwise I was gonna get obliterated. So how many points
did I have last week? How many did Mancy have?

Speaker 18 (02:27:13):
So head to head you both actually went two and one?
Uh and Moncey even monce even you had an over.

Speaker 11 (02:27:20):
Good for you.

Speaker 4 (02:27:21):
Let's go.

Speaker 18 (02:27:22):
We're getting a little bit of a streak going with
the over unders a little bit manzy, yeah, a little bit.
You broke through the cold streak of that. However, the
Chargers and the over on that did kind of stunt you.

Speaker 7 (02:27:33):
There.

Speaker 18 (02:27:33):
Monsey, you're two and one, but then you actually minus
the point, and Steve you actually lost the Cardinals but
got the over, so it kind of just balanced you out.

Speaker 3 (02:27:44):
So we had the same pound. There were points, so
you were Moncey was leading.

Speaker 18 (02:27:48):
Twenty four to twenty was the four point lead it
is now at this point it's twenty five to twenty two.
You gained one point on her. Steve, you're still doing right.
There we go one point, it is, yes, and now
you dawn upon us.

Speaker 4 (02:28:02):
I don't think that's right. No, I don't think that's right.
We both picked the Vikings, so that eliminates.

Speaker 2 (02:28:07):
Okay, okay, we got the over. We both did.

Speaker 4 (02:28:11):
You picked the Cardinals. I took the Seahawks and I
took the over.

Speaker 6 (02:28:14):
No, you did not pick the over on the Seahawks.
It's just it was a bold You did the over
for the Vikings.

Speaker 4 (02:28:20):
I don't think I think I did two. You might
remember doing too, so you just don't remember.

Speaker 2 (02:28:24):
Oh no, the Chargers was over. No, you definitely had
the Chargers over and I had the under.

Speaker 4 (02:28:30):
I know you two games with overs.

Speaker 18 (02:28:33):
Oh you know what, I miscount on Steve, Steve, you're
actually it is. I forgot. I forgot that. I did
not even see the bold under you for the Chiefs there, Steve.
So actually, Steve, it's twenty five to twenty three.

Speaker 6 (02:28:44):
He gained two ho her.

Speaker 3 (02:28:47):
So this is really don't work it out for mines.

Speaker 14 (02:28:49):
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 10 (02:28:50):
I was here on Sunday, at which time Dan Bayer
said that Monty had the over in the Arizona Seattle game.
I don't even know what the reference was, but I
remember and carry Ro was right there, Martin.

Speaker 3 (02:29:01):
What did you pick over under on all three games?

Speaker 7 (02:29:03):
No?

Speaker 4 (02:29:03):
I know, we didn't do it on the Vikings show.

Speaker 6 (02:29:05):
So that was a previous Seahawk Arizona game. I think, No,
I thank you.

Speaker 2 (02:29:11):
Yes, I look at her at the game. I don't
want any controversy here. I tend to agree with her
on this wedding. All right, let's make it twenty six
twenty three. All right, we'll make it twenty six twenty three.

Speaker 3 (02:29:22):
How does that say?

Speaker 4 (02:29:23):
Yeah? And I'm gonna say this is over.

Speaker 5 (02:29:25):
I'm gonna go listen and then I'm gonna send it
to Patrick so that I can prove my boy.

Speaker 11 (02:29:29):
But thank you.

Speaker 3 (02:29:30):
I love the competitiveness here.

Speaker 4 (02:29:32):
I just was like, I remember, I knew that I
had one right and one wrong with the over unders.

Speaker 18 (02:29:36):
Yes, fair point, all right, Well, I just don't I'm
gonna have to look into it too, because that's all
If that that's my bad.

Speaker 2 (02:29:43):
Well it's a new a new era.

Speaker 3 (02:29:45):
Here, everybody. Let's make sure we're right on everything.

Speaker 18 (02:29:48):
Yes, Number one, we have the Buffalo Bills taking on
the Detroit Lions. Over under is fifty four and a half.

Speaker 6 (02:29:56):
Boy, that's a lot.

Speaker 18 (02:29:57):
That's a big our fearless leader is still Monsy monopoly,
Belos mons you get to go first on this one.

Speaker 4 (02:30:04):
I don't like this.

Speaker 6 (02:30:05):
I don't like this.

Speaker 4 (02:30:07):
The Bills. What's the over under?

Speaker 2 (02:30:12):
Huge?

Speaker 7 (02:30:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (02:30:15):
All right, all right?

Speaker 5 (02:30:16):
The Lions are, on paper, the better team they are,
and they need to win because they've got some teams
right behind him, right right behind them, especially in their division.
But I don't I don't know why I want to
lean towards the Bills in this one. But I don't
know if that's just like a weird gut feeling. Because

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the Lions are the better team, they are the more
complete team. So am I gonna be logical? I guess
I will be logical and I'm gonna take the Lions.
And I'm also gonna take.

Speaker 6 (02:30:54):
The over Lions over locked in by the way.

Speaker 4 (02:30:59):
Yeah, I'm gonna write down myself. Don't worry, don't worry. Alright,
this down myself.

Speaker 2 (02:31:04):
It is typed in right now. All right, Lions over.
Well that makes a lot of sense, it really does.
I mean, the Bills gave up forty four points to
the Rams last week.

Speaker 4 (02:31:14):
They've also scored thirty points in seven consecutive games.

Speaker 2 (02:31:17):
Yeah, thirty or more in believing the Lions offense is
more prolific than the Rams. Well, again, I'm not going
to make up any ground by picking the same thing
you pick, right, So I got to sort of be
careful here. I don't like the under in this game,
so I'm not going to touch the over under. But

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I'm gonna roll with the Bills.

Speaker 6 (02:31:42):
Okay, Bills, Bills, Bills, I don't.

Speaker 3 (02:31:45):
I'm not touching that over on a no chance taking
it under?

Speaker 2 (02:31:48):
That game seems.

Speaker 6 (02:31:54):
Would you like to go bold with the Bills there, Steve.

Speaker 2 (02:32:00):
I to think of something that is actually bold, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (02:32:06):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (02:32:07):
So Josh Allen had three rushing touchdowns last week against
the Rams. All Right, how about this for a bold
serious sir, Josh Allen, who will be the winning quarterback
in this game, will have more rushing touchdowns than passing
touchdowns than passing. Okay, now, if it's the same, I lose.

Speaker 3 (02:32:31):
So it has to ask me above.

Speaker 2 (02:32:33):
Yeah, yes, he has to have more rushing touchdowns than
passing touchdown.

Speaker 6 (02:32:38):
Greater than no, equal to gotcha there?

Speaker 3 (02:32:41):
Sweet? All right? Cool, cool, all right, I think that's bold.

Speaker 10 (02:32:44):
I like it.

Speaker 3 (02:32:45):
Monci.

Speaker 2 (02:32:46):
Is that bold enough for you?

Speaker 7 (02:32:47):
Sure?

Speaker 3 (02:32:49):
Okay, you know some of hers have been.

Speaker 6 (02:32:52):
It could be a low contested defensive matchup here.

Speaker 2 (02:32:55):
We don't know that well. I could say, uh, Jared Goffe,
at least one touchdown pass that is not bold, notppled,
that is not all right. On the other side, we'll
get our other two games in you can. You can
fill the little tension in the air.

Speaker 3 (02:33:11):
It's there.

Speaker 2 (02:33:11):
There's a lot of competitiveness. That's what happens when you
have game day geniuses in action. We're coming up here
on Fox Football Saturday, Steve Harvey Montzy blogos here Fox
Football Saturday. We're coming live from the tire rack dot
Com studios I want to thank our crew today. Martin
brilliant as always. He's going to be excited when a

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certain Colorado two way player is gonna win tonight the
Heisman Trophy.

Speaker 3 (02:33:36):
We'll be very excited about that.

Speaker 4 (02:33:38):
Mary mac this is the best top three, this is
one of the thing. This is a good one.

Speaker 2 (02:33:44):
Yeah, very very very much in the mix. And then
Patrick is, uh, well he's in deep right now with
my hellow question. I mean it's like, wow, So we
have controversy here on our game today, genius segment. So
h we know this, Monsie still leading. The question is
what is the margin? We will figure this out at

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some point here, at some point, all right, what is
our second game?

Speaker 3 (02:34:08):
Patrick? All right?

Speaker 18 (02:34:09):
Our second game? Well, it's going to be another tough one, guys.
It's the Pittsburgh Steelers taking on Philly. The Eagles are
It's a forty three and a half point over under
there for everybody in Philly Town. And I went with
Moncy first. Mister Kennon Hartman, you get to take the

(02:34:30):
lead here.

Speaker 2 (02:34:30):
Who we picking? Well, Steelers are banged up and they're
on the road against the Eagles, so taking the Eagles
is an easy choice. The question is the score, and
it's not a big number, that's for sure. Forty three
and a half. This is one of those games where

(02:34:54):
I would automatically lean under. But I'm going over.

Speaker 4 (02:35:02):
You're going over.

Speaker 2 (02:35:04):
We're not going to take the Eagles, and I'm going
to take over forty three and a half. Dang, all right,
any bolds there, Steve, let's see bols Any Russell Wilson
bolds Jalen Hurts say, Jalen Hurts will have at least
three touchdown passes.

Speaker 12 (02:35:22):
Wow?

Speaker 3 (02:35:23):
Wow, he only has sixteen on the season.

Speaker 2 (02:35:26):
Is that bold enough?

Speaker 6 (02:35:28):
That's pretty That's that's intricate enough.

Speaker 3 (02:35:30):
I like it. So Jalen Hurts will have at least
three touchdown passes.

Speaker 4 (02:35:40):
Okay, yes, listen, I agree that the logical choices the
Eagles here, but but I might as well. I'll try

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something different. I will take the Steelers.

Speaker 3 (02:36:05):
Let's go.

Speaker 5 (02:36:06):
My bold is that Saquon Barkley will be held under
one hundred rushing yards.

Speaker 18 (02:36:11):
Honestly, that's actually like pretty bold, all things considered, what
the year he's been having.

Speaker 6 (02:36:16):
I'll take it.

Speaker 3 (02:36:17):
Well, one hundred yards rushing under under.

Speaker 2 (02:36:21):
I understand that.

Speaker 4 (02:36:22):
But I mean fine, under seventy five.

Speaker 3 (02:36:26):
You have to go that low. I'll go eighty eighty.

Speaker 6 (02:36:28):
Okay, that works.

Speaker 3 (02:36:29):
Eighty's fine, that would be bold. That's bold.

Speaker 11 (02:36:32):
Oka like that?

Speaker 3 (02:36:33):
Are you touching the over end?

Speaker 4 (02:36:35):
I'm not on that one.

Speaker 3 (02:36:36):
I get that.

Speaker 18 (02:36:37):
Hi.

Speaker 3 (02:36:37):
Final game, the final game.

Speaker 18 (02:36:38):
Well, we saved the best for last, and we have
the Green Bay Packers taking on my Seattle Seahawks yet again.
Over under is forty five and a half. Seattle is home, Monsey,
take it away. Are ye leaning with the Seahawks after
going to Arizona?

Speaker 2 (02:36:59):
Watch them again?

Speaker 13 (02:37:01):
M hmm.

Speaker 5 (02:37:03):
I think the Packers are the better team. Hell yeah,
I think the Packers are the better team. Not that
the Seahawks are not playing really well, that's not It's
just I think they are. I trust the Packers more,
if I'm being honest, But playing in Seattle.

Speaker 2 (02:37:21):
Seattle has a losing record at home this year. They're
five and one on the road, three and four at home.

Speaker 4 (02:37:26):
Yeah, you're trying to sway me. You're trying.

Speaker 2 (02:37:28):
I'm just I'm just trying.

Speaker 4 (02:37:30):
You're trying to sway me here. You're trying to sway me.
Make decisions for me. I think the thing. No, no, no,
I'm gonna take the I'm gonna take the Packers. I'm
gonna take the Packers on this one.

Speaker 3 (02:37:49):
Any overunder, what's the over under?

Speaker 5 (02:37:53):
Five and a half forty five and a half YEF
forty five and a half slow?

Speaker 4 (02:38:02):
I feel like that's slow.

Speaker 6 (02:38:03):
For two good defenses.

Speaker 2 (02:38:04):
Kind of makes sense.

Speaker 5 (02:38:06):
Yeah, but again, I don't trust the Seahawks, like, I
can't believe you've done this. I won't touch I won't
touch the over under. No, I'm not gonna touch the overunder.

Speaker 11 (02:38:15):
Bet.

Speaker 4 (02:38:18):
How about.

Speaker 5 (02:38:21):
Both Josh Jacobs and Zach Sharboney will have over one
hundred and twenty five yards on the ground.

Speaker 3 (02:38:31):
Wow, that's bold, both of them.

Speaker 6 (02:38:34):
That's insanely bold.

Speaker 3 (02:38:35):
I love it.

Speaker 11 (02:38:35):
I'll give that.

Speaker 3 (02:38:36):
That's definitely bold. All right, I'm taking the Seahawks.

Speaker 2 (02:38:41):
Thank you, Steve, thank you?

Speaker 6 (02:38:44):
Or any over unders are bold?

Speaker 2 (02:38:45):
There, chief, I'm gonna say the over under is a
six pack of beers. You'll be drinking while watching this game.
I'm gonna be at work, so no, yeah, game. So
that's an under all right? So I like the Seahawks
for sure.

Speaker 3 (02:39:02):
That over under.

Speaker 4 (02:39:03):
I know it's enticing, it's enticing.

Speaker 2 (02:39:07):
I'm going over gone.

Speaker 3 (02:39:19):
All right, So are we gonna be able to resolve?
I have no prop bet on this.

Speaker 2 (02:39:22):
I do you have a Are we gonna get this
all set?

Speaker 6 (02:39:26):
We're gonna have it all set?

Speaker 2 (02:39:27):
Okay again, we have the Stableford system. We're not on
a win loss We're on the Stableford system points only. Wow,
where does the time go? Who's gonna win that Heisman?
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