Fox Football Sunday: Andy Furman & Bucky Brooks talk NFL Week 15 Preview, NFL MVP and So Much More!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Don't listen.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
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Here he is my partner, and of course my friend
Bucky Brooks. Hello, Bucky, how are you Week fifteen in
the NFNL.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
I am great, Andy. It has been a great football
weekend already. I'm looking forward to Sunday.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
First of all, I'm glad you said that great football
weekend was I don't think of this. I want you
to hear me out on this. Okay. I don't care
what kind of a football thing you are, high school, college, NFL.
I don't care. I finally figured it out and I
saw the uesterday, So you say it's a great football weekend.
I figured it out we as fans follow brands, brands,

(01:07):
not players, and yesterday was proof positive. Saturday had these
games next to Army Navy, South Alabama, Western Michigan, Jackson State,
South Carolina State, Mercer and Mercy, oh Merca and North
Dakota State. You put these same kids in a Georgia, Texas, Oregon,
Ohio State uniform and the TV ratings go through the roof.

(01:29):
It's MUSCTV. We're those jerseys that I just mentioned. I'll pass.
I'll take a pass. We root for brands, we don't
root for players. We don't even root for teams, brand names, period.
That's what it's all about in college football. Brands rule.
Do you agree? You have to agree. I know you're
gonna pick me apart, but that's what it's all about.
I said to myself, you know what, this is a
Mussey TV. I don't have to see North Dakota State

(01:51):
and Mercer.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
I mean, look, brands ruled on a major scale. But
I think if you're a daher, a football fan, which
is what I clim to be, I love looking at
those the playoffs, and I love love looking at teams
that you don't often see on the main stage and
so while Army Navy kind of carries the day, it
is great to see South Dakota and U see Davis.
It is great to see some of the other teams

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have an opportunity to shine on a bigger stage. And
it's been like that throughout the course of the weekend
Montana State versus Idaho. So I dig all of that.
I love it. I love seeing other guys have an opportunity.
And because of the fluid nature of college football, the
stars that you see at lower levels today are going
to be the stars of your favorite brand name teams tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
You know, you're so kind, you know you make me
feel so bad and so weak. I mean, I'm such
an I'm like, you know, I'm like Scrooge. I'm like
the sports scrooge. That's what I am. You're so kind,
You're like Santa, you really are, you know, And I'm
glad and we balance each other out very nicely. I mean,
You're just a good guy and I'm just a mean

(02:57):
old scrooge. I get it. I mean really, and I'm sorry.
I'm sorry for those kids that played for Mercer. I know,
if to call this state, you're right, and there'll be
a handful of those guys going to the NFL, and
I'll be rooting for them when they wear a jersey
of like the Detroit Lions, wherever it may be. Now,
speaking of college, let's get into this Heisman Trophy thing.
I watched it last night and I'm very happy Travis
Hunter wont it. I'm happy. I'm happy for him. I

(03:19):
love the speech, I love that Dion was there. You know,
it's great. I mean, it was a wonderful thing. But
I still have that question walk in the back of
my mind. The Heisman Trophy. Is it the best player
in college football? Or is it the most valuable player
in college football? And I ventured against that ninety percent
of the voters have no idea what it is because

(03:40):
I think the best player in college football was Ashton
Genty from Boise State. I mean, what he has done,
and the voting kind of showed it because it was
the closest one to two vote in Heisman Trophy in
like years. Okay, but Travis Hunter, what he has accomplished
by playing all those snaps in both ways, I guess
that makes him fairly most valuable. Helped me out here

(04:02):
because I don't know what the trophy really stands.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
For well, I mean, I think it goes back and forth.
I think the natural inclination is the name the quarterback
who either has the flashest stats on the best team
or a quarterback who kind of pops when it comes
to the numbers and those things. This year there wasn't
a quarterback that did it. So then it goes to, well,

(04:24):
who is the best player or who can we say
is the best football player? The debate should have been
asking Genty and Travis Hunter. To me, Travis Hunter was
worthy of winning it just because of what he did
on both sides of the ball. When you ran down
the numbers, like he was a top ten player at
wide receiver and defensive back, like based on the numbers

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to deflections and interceptions and all of those things, pastes,
defense and offense like catches, receiving yards, touchdowns, all of that,
And so then it just kind of became a debate
in a style like style points which one do you
believe is the best player? And so for me, I
fell in the Travis Hunter camp. Some others fell into

(05:08):
Ashton gent camp. But what you did see is America
felt like these were the two best players and they
were worthy of walking away with award. Travis Hunter won,
but I think what two hundred points, So it was
it was a highly kitting, testing debate. S Gentt has
not to be ashamed of. This is very very close
when it comes down to it.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
I think it was great because Travis Hunt they got
like five hundred and fifty two first place votes twenty
two hundred and thirty one points, and Ashton genty was
the runner over three hundred and nine first place votes
and twenty seventeen points. Closest margin of victories is two
thousand and nine and that was mark Ingram and Toby Gerhardt.
So I guess the voters were somewhat mixed on where

(05:47):
we should go. And the greatest thing was that it
wasn't a team that was dominant. It wasn't dominanting to
me certainly both boys. He stayed at a great year,
and no one buught up the conversation that who do
they play? You know, you always hear that, well, Boise
State is not playing in the Mountain West and not
playing in the Big ten and I playing the Big twelve.
I love that the guy was one hell of a

(06:09):
football player and he put up the stats. So I
don't care if you're playing a Pop Warner or North
Dakota State or Mercer or anybody else. You get those numbers,
you're a pretty good player.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
Well yeah, like he be dominant player. I mean one
of the best in the biz. And it'll be reflected
when he is drafted as a first round pick and
people will rave about him and talk about how special
he is with the ball in his hands. He did
deserve all of the accolades and attention that he received
based on the way that he dominated the Mountain West. Obviously,
that conference is right there in my backyard. You get

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a chance to see him play all the time, and
he was nothing short of remarkable when it came to
what he did with the ball in his hands, and
the level of dominance, to consistent dominance, all of those
things made him worthy of being the guy.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
And the best thing about the Heisman Trophy Show, the
awards show is not so much the waiting holding your
breath to see who's gonna win it. It is like
the little features that have on all these guys. And
I had no idea that Austin Jenny was basically one
of those guys that basically made that commitment to State
Boys used to I love that. You know, his mom
was there, They talked to his mom, his dad was there.

(07:16):
I mean, this guy could have gone basically anywhere in
the country, but he wanted to State Boys. He stayed
and you know that's almost a rarity right now in
college sports, guys staying in one place.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
It is a rarety. You don't see a lot of
guys stay in one place. You see guys jump to
the highest bidder and look for the easy way to
kind of make things happen. So I am excited that
he was able to stay in and talking to the coach,
you heard them talk about how great of a guy
he is, what kind of leader he is, what he
did on and off the field. They kind of set

(07:47):
him apart for others. You love when you guys are
great players but also great people. So Aiston, Jenny Desert
had that spotlight on them.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
And I think Travis Hunter is a great person too.
I just I loved this speech. It was amazing. And
then they showed his high school. You know that had
a little root of a rooting section in his high school.
When he got called and they had the Colorado team
on the streets of New York City when his name
was Cold, So I thought that was wonderful. I mean,
you know, I'm kind of a softly when it comes
to that, you know, it can only make me cry.

(08:16):
I don't know what a minute, but I'll tell you Buck,
I hope no one else is listening. I will tell
you that I almost had a tear when I saw
Travis hunt Is speaking and just his mom. His mom
was great. I mean what his mom did, and he
was really good off the cuff. He didn't have a
prepared speech, but off the cuff, he was just great.
He sounds and looks as like a true gentleman and

(08:36):
a great kid. Great kid, yeah, great kid.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
I think the teammates being there, the number of Colorado
teammates that showed up speaks volumes to Travis Hunter, to
gay that he is, but also the program that Deon
Sanders has created at Colorado. There's always been a lot
of conversation around Dean Sanders, and he's a bit of
a polarizing figure. But when you see that kind of camaraderie,
that kind of love and appreciation for teammates, for other teammates,

(09:05):
to me, that's what team building is about. That's what
you do in college. You create those relationships and a
culture and at least to success between the lines. But
it also leads to great relationships that will help you
down the line in life.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
All right, let's move along, sticking with the college here
right now. Let's go to the Army Navy game yesterday.
And you know, Army goes now to eleven and two.
They lose thirty with I mean their loss. They got
beat up pretty good, thirty one to thirteen, and I
was shocked. I mean it ended a a three game
winning streak for Army over Navy. Navy comes back, but
Army was coming off that win in the American Athletic

(09:38):
Conference title. Gaming is too lane, I mean to me,
I mean that just took all the air out of
the bubble for the entire season for Army. They people
were talking at one point in time, they were ranked,
They thought they might go to the college football playoffs,
be one of the twelve teams. Now they end up
eleven and two. Now is a devastating loss. I understand
what it means to lose to Navy, and I'm talking
about statistically right now. I mean that what was a

(10:00):
bad loss for Army.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
US today, Yeah, bad loss, and being someone who loves
that game, who loves the academies, and more specifically who's
made a venture up to West Point to see Coach
Monkin and the Black Nks go to work and how
they do their things. I had a rooting interest watching
the game, pulling for Army, but I will say Navy
beat them up from beginning to end. Navy's unique and

(10:24):
creative offense is one that can tie you in fits.
And what you saw was a game where whenever these
two teams play, throw out the records. There's so much
intensity and physicality and just tradition built into this game
that anybody can win. And then, what I really loved
about the game, no matter what side you're on at

(10:47):
the end of the game, would have to go to
the corners of the end zone and seeing the Alma
maters and at a time where we're seeing people fight
and get upset about flag planning in those things. Look, man,
when you're the team that loses, you have to see
the Alma mast You got to suck it up, and
then you got to hear your rival seeing their song last.
There's a level of professionalism, but there's also a lot

(11:08):
of level of respect that you want to see when
you see two teams compete. And I think the Army
Navy game embodies everything that is right about athletics.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Bingo, you hit it right on the head, Bucky Brooks,
you really did. Because I thought about that right after
the game. I said, you know, they got these politicians
that I wanted to, like, have these kids arrested, you know,
for flag planting? And they said, wait a minute, did
they ever watch the Armanavy game. This rivalry is as
intense as any other rivalry. And I'm going to say
even Ohio State Michigan, yes, And people are going to say,

(11:36):
what what are you telling me?

Speaker 1 (11:37):
It is.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
It's intense, it's a big deal, and people really and
truly love this rivalry. But it's a peaceful rivalry. It's
a professional rivalry, and there's no fighting, there's no flag planting,
there's none of that garbage that's there like the other places. Look,
I don't I'm not pro or con flag planting, and
I don't think a kid should get arrested. I just
think the coaches would say, hey, after this game, get

(12:00):
your butt in the locker room after the game, and
that's it. And as far as the Ohio State Michigan
game's concerned, I would tell you this much, Ohio State,
suck it up. Suck it up. You lost the game,
you know, like Alabama, people are whining and crying. You
know what, don't lose three games you have to whine
and cry. But getting back to Ammy Navy, wonderful, great
rivalry and a respectful rivalry. And that's the key right there.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Yeah, really respectful rivalry. It is intense, and it's disappointing
if your army, because no matter what you've done, you
can win the AAC, you can win eleven games. Losing
to your rival sucks. And so for a year they
have to lay in it. They lost the Commanders in
Chief trophy, they didn't have an opportunity to cap it

(12:44):
off when what we would call it the right way. Yeah. Man,
it's a disappointing end, a very disappointing end to what
can be a good season, but not a great season
because you lost to your rival.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yeah. And I'll ask you this, and this may be
a real stupid question, and I hate to be like
an anti America, if you will, but what makes this rivalry
so big? Why is this bigger than perhaps maybe the
Air Force playing Navy, or any other academy playing an
academy game, or even like I say, Ohio State Michigan.

(13:15):
Why is this rivalry bigger than all other rivalries?

Speaker 1 (13:19):
I mean, I think the rivalry is big just because
of the history of the two institutions and academies. One,
because they serve the country right like it's the most
respected academies. And I throw Air Force in there because
of what the sacrifice did these guys make, not only
on the field, but what they commit to doing after

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their playing days are done. At a collegiate level. Two,
you think about the grand traditions and the great players
that have played at these institutions going all the way
back into the thirties and forties, like that tradition, that
what has been done, the Heisman winners, and all of
those things that carries on. Two. I think knowing and
looking out there and understanding like how both of these

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guys represent the ideals of the American flag and how
you see that in the pageantry and all of that.
I think that is what makes it such a great
thing to watch. And I think it's one of the
things that all players should watch just because of all
the I would say the purity that is associated with
the game, which is so vastly different from other parts
of the game and other teams playing in the game.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
Now, I know that game kind of travels from like
Baltimore to Washington to Philadelphia. I think at times it
was played in New York City and Yankee Stadium. I mean,
I'd like to see me move more. I mean, maybe
to the Midwest. I've never been to an Ami Navy game.
I'd love to go to an Ami Navy game. It's
got to be you know, you probably get goosebumps going
to that game. It's one of those type of deals.
And you know, it's not one of those games you

(14:48):
just go nuts rooting, like in the stands with those
you know, beer drinking pigs in the stands go crazy
like Ohio State, Michigan. I just think it's a respectful stands.
I don't think the people in the stands watching are lunatics.
Maybe I'm wrong, but you've been there, so you know.
I don't think they're out of control.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
No, I mean, I won't say they out of control.
I would say that they look they love their team,
they support their team, and there's no out of your
bunch then the bunch that we saw. Like when you're
a serviceman or women and you have an opportunity to
win and you win against your arrival, man, you get
to turn up a little bit. But I think it's respectful.
And to me, that is the thing that stands out
to me, how respectful these two teams were to each other.

(15:31):
You want the intensity, you want all of the stuff
that you have in most rivalry games, but it's respect
factor at the end, at the end of the day, man,
when it's done and triple zero hit the clock. Yeah,
one team loses, one team wins. But you still are
able to kind of come together, shake hands and exchange
pleasantries knowing that you respect the opponent.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
It's kind of like you and me, really. I mean, now,
you and I may agree to disagree about a bar
you beat their living daylights out of me, but I
respect you. I do respect.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah, I appreciate that, and I'm a gracious winner, and
so I understand what goes along with that. I try
not to rub it in your face. I try to understand.
Will sing our Alma Man in the corner of the
end zone and do our thing.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
There you go, now, last, but not least, and we
may have the rolls over a little bit. Bill Belichick,
all right, goes to your school North Carolina. How surprised
were you? And everybody's saying, well, you know, they fired
a guy who was seventy three, you know, and they
hire a guy who's seventy two. Does age make a difference?
And how surprised were you with the Belichick move?

Speaker 1 (16:30):
One? I was one hundred percent surprise because I was like,
there's no way that this is going to come to fruition.
I was not a skeptic in terms of the age
of those things, but just the college game. The greatest
coach that we have seen in the pro football era
is going to take a college job to cap off
his career. So to me, I was just hesitant in that.
But there's another part of me that is excited about

(16:53):
the possibility. And I was excited about the possibility because
this year we had a chance to see Bill Belichick
on TV and we had a chance to hear him
talk about some of the secret sauce behind the New
England Patriots success. We heard him talk about the fundamentals
and situational football and how you build a team in
those things, and so for him to be attached to
my alma mater, I'm excited to watch it. I'm excited

(17:14):
to go down and visit and see if I can
just glean a bigger piece of what he is doing
behind the scenes to build a championship team. I'm just excited,
and so we'll see what it plays out. I know
there are a lot of skeptics out there, but to me,
I just think the merging of two brands, the Carolina brand,
which is known in forty five by the basketball success,
but everyone knows it's one of the top public institutions

(17:36):
in the country, and then one of the greatest coaches
that we'll see in football at any level is football,
and so I'm just excited to see what he does well.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
I add to this segment the top of the segment,
I said, we're going to tell you why he did it,
and I think that why he made the move. Obviously,
he's going to get the control that he always wants.
Y'all get to pick his staff, you get to decide
the players you'll have. I'll have the control over the scheduling.
I'll have the say so on the facility he used
to practice facilities. He's going to control everything to hire
those assistant coaches. So I think the control factor is

(18:05):
one of the big keys. And I think also the
fact I'm sure there was a clause in the contract
that his son, Steven will take over when he retires.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
Yeah, there may be some truth to think about Steven.
We'll see, We'll see how that all plays out. But
control is a big thing, and at a time when
coaches at the NFL level don't have control because everyone
wants collaboration, everyone wants a democratic process when it comes
to deciding how games are won and lost, but you
want to blame the head coach when it doesn't go
the way that the group thinks. I understand his desire

(18:37):
to want to have more control, to want to put
together the kind of program that he's on top of
and everyone is aligned. Yeah, it's something that it takes
a bit of arrogance, but when you've been a part
of eight Super Bowl winning teams, six as a head coach,
you should be able to kind of call your shots
when it comes to the type of program you want
and kind of control you need to be successful.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
I'm so happy for him. A really, and it shows
the public right now that he's not an egomaniac in
the sense that he was only about twelve to fifteen
games behind Don Shula's old time record. He doesn't care,
you know, he doesn't care about breaking that record. Really,
he just loves football and he wants to coach football
in a sense in an environment where he can be
the man and control it. I love that, I really do.

(19:20):
Now he may jump to the NFL after I doubt it,
but the fact is that he's going to do one
hell of a job in North Carolina. I know he will,
and I'm happy for him.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
But yeah, no, I think so, and I think this
is an unprecedented Bill Walsh took similar steps at the
end of his career. That's where he finished up at Stanford,
led him to a ten win season. Then he finished
his second tenure as Stanford as the head coach with
a seventeen seventeen and one record. Now we're hoping that
he has a better record than that when he finishes off.
But look, this is not our president. Coaches coach, and

(19:49):
he wanted to continue coaching, So you got to do
it where you have an opportunity. In North Carolina gave
him that opportunity.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
No doubt about that. He's Bucket Brooks. He coaches, he plays,
he writes, he does everything he can. You can get
him on it. To get him on ex we'll call
it X today I was called it, so we we'll
call it X at Bucket Brooks and Andy Furman FSR.
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aforementioned Mike Harmon Swollen Dome will join us in our
number three. But will one quarterback listen to his mom today?
That's next.

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Right here, I'm Fox Sports Radio and of course on
the iHeartRadio app. Now, let's get into this for a second.
Let's roll back the clock a little bit. The Thursday
night ugly game Rams and forty nine is Rams eight
and six right now. Forty nine is five and eight
twelve six in a sloppy game. But there was a
bigger story to that game. Obviously, the Rams win that game,
and they're rolling right now. The Rams have won for

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the seventh time and nine games, and he started the
season one and four, so they're a team to be
reckoned with down the stretch. Forty nine is the season's over.
But more than that, the story buck is the fact
that with their injuries to the linebackers in the middle
of the third quarter on that game Thursday Night, the
forty nine has turned the veteran Devondre Campbell turned to
the game and guess what, he says, thanks, but no thanks?

(21:50):
What in the hell did he do?

Speaker 4 (21:52):
What?

Speaker 2 (21:53):
I mean, have you ever been involved in a situation
like that where a player says, I'd rather not I mean,
if you don't want to play, don't suit up. I mean,
but don't do that to you. How do you face
your teammates. This is the most disgusting thing I've ever
seen in sport. I mean, you talk about flag playing thing,
that big deal, all right, that happens. No, it's an
emotional thing. This is, you know, a respectable thing to

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your teammates. They were short linebackers. How do you do that?

Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yeah, don that's a tough one. I mean, that's one
of the biggest and most egregious sins that you can
commit as a teammate. Like it's one thing to play
for the coaches and the organization those things, but what
you really do is you're playing for the people to
the right and to the left of you. And so
in that moment, when Devondre Campbell turned down the opportunity
to go in the game, what he did is he

(22:42):
basically gave a collective f you to his teammates, and
no matter what the situation, no matter what the circumstance is,
you always shure it for your teammates. Yes, you're a
guy that was a starter who had to take a
backup role because Drake Greenlaw was coming back. But at
some moment you have to understand that this is bigger
than you. This is not about you and your feelings.
It's about the collective. It's about how the team has

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to operate and what the team wants to do. Because
we all talk about as a team, we want to
win the Super Bowl. We want to win the biggest
team on it that you can win being held as
a champion because everyone benefits from the accolade of being
a champion. But for Devondre Campbell to not be able
to sacrifice and check his ego at that moment speaks

(23:24):
volumes about his character, his football character in those things,
and it'd be hard for the Nineers to bring him
back into that locker room because at their lowest he
walked away. And so you can't do that when you're
a teammate. And so look, it's over for him in
San Francisco. Maybe somebody else will give him another chance
to win because he has been a Pro Bowl player,
maybe a Boardline All Pro caliber player in his career.

(23:47):
But man to do that in a big stage with
playoff implications being what they were, that's hard. That's hard.
That's hard. That's hard to overlook.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Yeah, and Kyle Shanahan to me, and maybe he saved
his biggest outburst behind closed doors because what I had
read and heard after that game, you know, basically he said, well,
we'll see, we'll handle it. One of those deals. I'm
sure he went ballistic behind closed doors, and maybe that's
the way to do it. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
Nah, you can't even you can't even go ballistic on that. Like,
once people show you who they are, you got to
believe them. He showed them that when they needed him,
he walked away. There's no other conversation that you have
to have, Endy like you needed him. We came him
at a time where two linebackers are down, Hey man,
we need you, and you're like, nah, man, I'm good,

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and then you walked off the field. There's no coming
back from that. There's no apology, there's no there's nothing
that you can say to come back from that. So look,
it's over. There's no need to yell about it. You
make the transaction. I would expect him to be cut
on Monday and then you move on. You can't have
that kind of dude on your team when you're trying
to have everybody pulling the boat in one direction and

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you have this one guy pulled in the other direction.
He has to go, he has to fall on on
and he didn't, so he's out.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
What an ugly season for the San Francisco forty nine is.
I mean, obviously injuries were a factor, but you hit
it on the head a little bit. But the money,
the money situation was yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
But and I mean the signs were there the entire offseason.
Everyone's complaining and whining about money and this contract and
that contract. And look, you got to take care of
your players when you win. You understand that, right, Christian
McCaffrey and Trent Williams, and then you had Brandon you're
doing his thing, and Deepot Samuel, and then you had this.

(25:39):
I mean, it was just so many people with their
hand out. It reminded me like looking at the board
game Monopoly when you pass it, oh, and my man
has my hand out and you pay your taxes, in
your fees. It was too much. And when you talk
about the Super Bowl hangover, it's not just the emotional
fallout from losing the biggest game on the biggest stage.

(26:01):
It's the disease of me that can filter into the
locker room where everybody feels like they had a greater
part in the success than maybe they did. And so
when everyone is beginning to individually seek out their honors
and rewards as opposed to still keeping the focus on
the team, that's when things go wayward. And that's where

(26:22):
the Niners are. It wasn't just the injuries, it was mentally.
I don't think they were in the right place from
the jump, and the product that they put on the
field was the product of a team that wasn't focused,
not together, And it's hard no matter how talented you are,
it's hard to overcome that, you know.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
I see the same situation now developing in Cincinnati, being
with the Jamar Chase situation earlier in preseason. But now,
if you heard just the other day T Higgins fired
his agent. He's got the same agent as Jamar. So
these guys are going to put the stranglehold on management
in Cincinnati, and it kind of brings back shades of
weight back when I don't know how many people remember
this when Don Drysdale and Sandy Colfax pitched for the

(27:03):
Dodgers and they both sat out for more money and
they won. They won that deal. They just said, we
got together. And you know, powers is in numbers, strengths
in numbers, and basically with Chasing Higgins with the same agent,
which could be very interesting to see what happens in Cincinnati.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
Yeah, so you're saying they have the same agent or
they used to have the same agent.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
No, they know Higgins fired his agent. He's got the
same agent as Chase.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
Now, well, now here's what happens. The Bengals have to
be very transparent with their transactions. Now, they like both
players will know exactly what they think about one another
and how the money works. And so before where they
could say one thing the t Higgins and something else
to de Marchase, they can't do that because the person
doing both negotiations knows the ggins and ounce about the thing,

(27:50):
and so he can make sure that it's done fairly.
Years ago in our industry, Mike and Mike, they operated
for so long but the same agent. They could always
make sure that both guys got exactly what they deserve.
It was only later when they split off one person
got a different agent that it became problematic to the negotiation.
This should help the players get what they want. Now

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Cincinnati has to make a decision on what they want
to be. Do you want to be around Joe Burrow
because you can pay both receivers if you want to,
and it would have been better if they paid them
sooner rather than later. But they can beat both guys
if they want. It's just a matter of what kind
of team does Cincinnati want to want to build. And
I know they don't have like fluid liquid money cash
like just out the wazoo like some of these franchises,

(28:34):
but they're ways around that part of it to be
able to make sure that your best players stay there,
because if you lose one of those guys, it changes
the dynamic of what that team is drastically.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
And more than that, I think it changes to the
impression of the fan base. That's the key. I mean,
you know they're worried about that too, the fan base. Obviously,
you got to keep Jamar Chase. I mean they would
have gotten last year maybe for thirty mili. He's going
to go up with forty mil now next year.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
One hundred percent. And I'll say this, and no one
may glean this from watching inside the FC North on
Hard Knocks, but the way that Mike Tomlin talked about
Jamar Chase, like, let you know how other coaches view
and how the opponents view Jamar Chase. Yeah, there's no
way he can get out the building. But look, T
Higgins is also a nightmare to deal with, and he's

(29:22):
a monster that you have to defend. You had to
be interested to see what they do with that. But yeah,
it's one of those situations where you certainly hope that
they didn't let it come to this, right, but now
that we're here, they got to figure out how to
deal with it.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
The only question with T Higgins, I gotta believe that
they may have some clause in his contract for games
played because he's been injured, injured very much. So maybe
they'll give him a deal where if you play X
amount of games, maybe an incentive cause in the contract.
Who knows, I don't know, but it'd be interesting.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
I mean some of that might be included. Yeah, you
got to I mean you got to look at the history.
That's also a part of you just don't throw the cash.
You just don't get him the cash without like doing
the research and knowing exactly who he is and what
he going to be, because once you pay him, like
the things that you see, you only go see more
of And so you've got to make sure that you
like the player and the person that you're paying.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Right now, speaking of agents, you know Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson,
his mom is his agent, right, isn't that she represents him?
And the and the Ravens are playing the Giants today
at Medlife. The Giants are not won a game at Medlife.
To see, they lost eight straight. It should be much
of a game. But the quarterback, Lamar Jackson, his mom,

(30:29):
she cussed him out the other day for not running enough.
How do you like that? I read that? I picked
up Did you hear about that? Lamar Jackson did custom?
I mean, that's unbelievable. So are we going to see
him run more now because mom told him to?

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Well, I mean I think so. But see, I think
this is a challenge that most dual threat quarterbacks have
is how do they stay true to who they are,
versus dealing with the temptation of trying to prove the
naysayer is wrong. Right, so all the outsiders will say,
there's not a quarterback taking win the Super Bowl who's
run from the pocket, Like no running quarterback has ever

(31:04):
won it. After you hear that so much, no matter
what any athlete says, you hear all the noise, there's
a part of you that wants to prove to people, no,
I can do all this thing I have. I'm a
multifaceted game. But is that always like it's not. It's
to your detriment sometimes, and so you just got to
resist the urge to kind of fall into that trap

(31:26):
when people kind of talk about those things and do
those things.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
It's great the fans full of playing over a met
life last week calling the Giants a dumpster fire.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
It really is. I mean, that's the way they are
in New York and that's not gonna be much of
a game. The judge Jags, I think the Jazz got
a shot today. And the magic number I said coming
up too the segment fourteen. That's the number of years
that Jets have not been in the postseason. I think
the Jacks could get it done today. What do you
think I'd love to see it for? You really be
Tennessee last week could be two in a row.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
I mean, look, they have a good chance two three
and team teams squaring off. I mean, yeah, you should
have a chance to get that. To me though, like
the Jags are coming to the game shorthanded. Evan Ingram's
on ir to go with Christian Kirk and Travis I mean,
Trevor Lawrence and all that. So look, you're not playing
with the A team, but no one cares at this
point they have to play. To me, I'm more curious

(32:14):
to see what this Jet squad looks like. Right. We
always hail them as one of the more talented teams.
We talk about their defense, we talk about the weapons
that they have on the outside, Garrett Wilson, and now
they have dv Adams added to that. I want to
get a look at Aaron Rodgers, and I want to
see is the regression real or is it the byproduct
of just not being surrounded by the right people up
front in those things. So to be an interesting matchup,

(32:35):
we'll get a chance to see which team plays with
more effort and energy because the scene that plays the
hard is gonna be ultimately the one that wins.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
And the man to watch I think for the Jags
is Brian Thomas junior to wide receiver. As soon as
they get the full to him, they start scoring. That's
what they do. He's the guy.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
He is one percent the guy, and he is the
dude that, like everyone is going to talk about in
this rookie classes man. Maybe he's the best wide receiver
of the group.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
We'll see, Yeah, we'll get into that for sure. There's
talk about this Cowboy Panthers game. I mean, how did
the Cowboys make such a mental error after that block
punt in the Bengals game on Monday and night. How
do you not know the rules of the game. Well,
maybe most players don't know the rules. I have no idea.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Really, Look, I think a couple of things I play
like the rules in those things, like sometimes you know
because there's so different rules. It's the ball goes beyond
the line of scrimmage as opposed to if it stays
behind the line of scrimmage when it comes to picking
it up, touching it, and those things. So the rules
certainly need to be known. But in that moment, Andy,

(33:35):
everybody has a tendency to freeze and lock up. There
is something about the ball, man, It's almost as if
the ball is a pinata at a party, right, and
you just want to pop the pinyada, right, So you
just want to touch it, right, you just see it
and it's coming to you. Like man, I just want
to touch the bart like I never get a chance
to touch the ball, and so like its something is

(33:56):
kid like is that the ball is bouncing, here it goes,
it comes my way. I'm gonna pick up the ball
and I'm gonna go score. And sometimes it doesn't. The
best is of mice. Admit, they'll always work out.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
I think they come back today against Carolina. I just
think they have a better defense, they have a better
pass rusher. I think that'll be it right there. But
now he is Bucky Brooks, I'm Andy Furman. We are
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Time for Ask Bucky. Let's get it going right now.
Bucky Bill Belichick, as you know, is a new coach
University of North Carolina. You're Almamada. One of the major
differences he's going to experience now from the pro game.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
Well, a couple of different things. One the players, the
players are different. Dealing with a younger kid. You're dealing
with people who don't know as much about football as
the ones that you used to play. So the teaching
just has to be even more detailed, has to be
more comprehension when it comes to teaching the game. And
then you're dealing with all of the other elements around
the game, nil the ability to jump into transfer portal,

(35:22):
the intermediaries that control these players, that influence these players' decisions.
You have to find a way to deal with all
of that, and it appears to look he's gonna be
very directly be very similar to the way that he
was with the Patriots, So he just has to make
adjustments to that. But I don't think he's going to
change very much from who he was with the Patriots.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
All right, this is a multiple choice test. Are you ready?
Multiple choice?

Speaker 1 (35:45):
All right? Love?

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Speaking of the pros, which NFL team is the worst?
Here are the choices. Carolina, Tennessee, the Giants, your Jags,
the Browns or the Raiders.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
Raiders, I'm doing well right now. The Giants are a
bit of a dumpster fire. Let's go to Giants. Right now,
Let's go to Giants.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
I kind of agree. I mean, they have no idea
who the quarterback is really I mean, it's ridiculous. So
the Giants aid the worst. Now which team?

Speaker 1 (36:17):
Another?

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Multiple choices for you? Which team should be feared the
most in the playoffs? Kansas City, Detroit, Green Bay, Minnesota,
Buffalo or Baltimore And you could add someone if you
want to.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
Which team should be feared I would say Detroit if
Detroit gets home field, just because they're so dangerous at home.
They are different animal. Dan Campbell has kind of just
unlocked the monster. I'm there, so I will say, let's
go to Detroit Lions.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Okay, the Miami Dolphins released their veteran wide receive Odell
Beckham Junior, just the other day. He signed the one year,
three million dollar deal with the Dolphins way back in May.
It's worth up tore about eight and a half million
with incentives. But he did have that knee surgery earlier
in the offseason and he was started the season the

(37:10):
physically unable to perform list. So is Odell Beckham is
his career over as he finished?

Speaker 1 (37:18):
No, I think he gets one more opportunity. I think
it's another opportunity this year to close it out the
way that he wants to close it out. So, no,
it has not done. Odell continues to play, but in
a bit role. But I think it's only a handful
of teams that are in the mix. I would say
the Rams and the Ravens would be teams that know
him and kind of know how to build a roll
around him.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
Yeah. And the funny thing is is staying with that
for a second, I was really surprised that Dolphins even
picked him up. With guys like Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddell.
I just didn't think he was really needed.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
Yeah, I'm surprised, but I mean, I think they were
trying to create a situation where they didn't have any
weaknesses in the three receiver lineup, and you know, it
didn't work out. There was some value to bringing them in,
but look, I can't fault them for trying. It just
didn't work out, all right.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
Caitlin Clark was named the Time magazine Athlete of the Year.
Was it the right decision?

Speaker 1 (38:16):
Look, look, I think it was pretty good. Like she
was one that commanded headlines, and I know there are
a lot of people that were mad at her stance
in what she said in the article about the diversity
of the league and how this league was built different ways.
But yeah, like she's very deserving of the award because
she brought so many eyeballs to the game and so yeah,
I look had tipped to her for doing it. Yeah,

(38:38):
she should be recognized for her efforts and for the
attention that she brought to the game, the good attention.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
Yeah, And look, I'm gonna stay with this for a
second because I read a lot of stories about this
so called white privilege, and let's face it, the WNBA
to me is a black league, really, and she was great.
So she came out the quotes that I read about.
What she said was that the black women in that

(39:06):
league were the pioneers of that league and they are
there great players of that league. So I don't understand
of some report I forgot who it was. Basically called
it a white privilege. That's why she wanted. I mean,
come on, that's garbage and really and truly, I would
pray to God, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
Yeah, I think what Caitlyn Clark did she addressed the
white privilege like, she addressed it in a way that
like a lot of the attention and some of the
attention that she got was because she was the minority
in the league full of black women, and that some
of the adelation and adoration that goes her way. Some
of it was Mary base, but some of it was
because she was different and people were looking for someone

(39:43):
different to get behind, namely white people were looking for
someone different. So what she was trying to do was
acknowledge it. And then people got mad because she acknowledged
that fact, which puts her in a bad position because
you want people's opinion, but then you get mad when
you hear the opinion. But that's what she was addressing
and the piece.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
Yeah, and I would pray to God basically sports is
color blind, but I guess it's not.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
You know, Yeah, I think that's an unrealistic picture, as
much as I would like for it to be right.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
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(40:51):
You got the top rookies and Offensive Rookie of the
Year this week. How did you manage to put this
list together, it's played fairly difficult. Really.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
Yeah, Well, I mean when you're looking at the ricky
pass catchers, you're looking at the guys that were drafted
at the top. I mean there were seven guys drafted
in the first round, ten taken within the first thirty
seven picks, and so there are a lot of pass
catchers to look at and check in on. And at
a time, what we felt like the league was having
a dramatic shift where wide receivers are becoming marquee players

(41:21):
on offense, premium pieces of the championship puzzle. I wanted
to take a look at some of these first year
players to see how they're doing. Is let's kind of
shake the bush to see if we had to rank
them all over again, who are the ones that are
playing the best on the field.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
It's funny because the guy was drafted in the first round,
twenty third overall on YO Jacksonville Jaguars, and we talked
about him at earlier today, Brian Thomas Junior. He's averaging
almost sixteen yards a catch, and this guy is tremendous,
but on a team that really and truly is down
the dumps. But this guy has had one heck of
a year with twelve catches of twenty plus yards. And

(41:56):
you know what makes this guy so good? You say
he's the best of the lot.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
He has everything, and he has everything and the things
that we couldn't uncover. He is a number one receiver
that can take the top off the defense. He can
play the vertical stretch game. He also can do all
the dirty work underneath. He's gifted in terms of just
the athleticism and pure talent that he displays as a
wild runner, has great ball skills, can separate. I mean,

(42:21):
he is I won't to say as perfect as they
come as a number one, but he has so many
intrigue and traits that you want to have on the perimeter.
Just love his game and love how he's progressing. Look,
I'm biased because I see it every week, but this
dude is special.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
It's amazing because he's now playing with Mac Jones. I mean,
he's Trevor Lawrence is even out and he's still doing
well and the team's not winning. That's gotta be disappointing,
you know, for everybody concerned. But I think the future
sort of looks bright for the Jacks right now with.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
Him well, with him for sure, because he's a true
number one. They haven't had anybody of this caliber since
Jimmy Smith's days, and so that's a long time for
the people who are like Jenny cum Leads to the NFL.
This dude is every bit as good as the guys
that were taking at the top of the charts. He
is someone that you would expect to be in that
all pro conversation real early in his career.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
Yeah, and number two, the guy was drafted in Round two,
thirty fourth pick overall. Plays for the Los Angeles Chargers,
And that's kind of a strange situation because that team
right now is run oriented and defensive minded. But Lad McConkie,
I mean, here's a guy right now he's averaging what
about almost fifteen yards of catch as well, he's got
four touchdowns. But again, a team that really and truly

(43:33):
does not look at the past. I think they'd run
for us and past next.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
Yeah. No, Lad mcconki is interesting because there's some people
that are probably shocked that he would be up there.
But when you watch the Chargers play, he's their number
one receiver. He can move inside and outside. He does
everything for him in terms of being a chain mover.
You see the numbers. Look, this dude is not just
a dink and dunk catch playmaker. This guy makes plays
down the field. He is justin Herbert's trusted target when

(43:58):
they in cruse your moments. And as a rookie, he
just plays, I would say, like a poise and an
expertise that is beyond his experience, which is why he's
second on the list.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
You know, it's funny we got the first two guys.
The Chargers are basically a playoff contender. I mean, they're
not gonna go deep, I don't think in the playoffs,
but they'll they'll make the playoffs. First team Jacksonville. They're
out of it now. I got number three guy drafted
in Round one, six pickoverall, Molakue neighbors for the Giants. Again,
a losing team and basically maybe the worst team in

(44:31):
the National Football League. I mean, you basically think they are.
I think they are too. A lot of frustrations. Again,
not much of a quarterback combination with him on that
team this year, but right now he leads all the
rookie whiteouts and catches with eighty ranked second receiving guards
with eight nineteen which is amazing. I mean, those stats
are amazing considering he does have a quarterback.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
Yeah, those those numbers are amazing. But he's also the
most targeted wide receiver of all the rookies, right Like,
I mean he has over one hundred and twenty six
hundred and twenty seven targets and his catch rate is
just look as just at like fifty percent, So he's
not cashing out fully on the opportunities and some of
that look shoddy quarterback play we can talk about, uh,

(45:13):
Daniel Jones, Drew Locke, Tommy Cutlet's like he hasn't played
with elite quarterbacks, but there's still something that is a
little missing his game. I think maybe it's the emotional
outburst after the game. Just he has to be able
to rein that in talented player, competitive love, all that
other stuff, but he has to be able to lock
in and focus because sometimes he can come off a

(45:35):
selfish and I don't know, man at this time and age,
if you want that kind of player consistently barking about
the ball when you're really trying to put the team
in a position to.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
Win games, you know, I look at elite Neighbors went
to LSU, Justin Jefferson LSU, Jamar Chase LSU? Does that?
Is that the coincidence?

Speaker 1 (45:55):
Or is that school wide receiver? You?

Speaker 2 (45:57):
I mean, I'm in Penn State, used to be linebacker,
you right? I mean, and what is the deal?

Speaker 1 (46:00):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (46:01):
What they go after that? Looking at the wide receivers
over there?

Speaker 1 (46:05):
Look, I mean, I think one is a very talented
and fertile area when it comes to elite level athletes.
And if you go all the way back, I mean
Odell Beckham Junior, Jarvis Landry, those guys, LSU Tagers, and
the list goes on and on. Look, I think there's
the allure, there's the cachet, and sometimes, like it's a
copycat situation, recruits want to go to where they see

(46:28):
other guys that have had successes or positions. LSU has
been one of those schools.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
Interesting now going down to number four, and this is
kind of amazing because this is the one guy when
drafted they thought he would be the number one guy period.
He was drafted round one, fourth pick overall. We thought
about Marvin Harrison Junior of the Arizona Cardinals, and you know,
really a little bit of a disappointment, really I expected more.
I think a lot of people did too. Forty five receptions,

(46:55):
six fifty five yards, seven touchdowns, eighty six targets, and honestly,
here's the guy that everybody flip would really shot O records,
be Rookie of the Year, whatever it may be. He
only top the one hundred yard mark twice this year.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
Yeah, and I would say this because I felt like
sometimes when I go back and I reread what I
wrote about it, like it comes off as a little harsh.
I would say this based on the expectations and the
height they proceeded. Marvin Harrison's arrival this year would be
a bit of a disappointment. He hasn't dominated on the
perimeter like many of us expected that he would dominate.
Some of that is he's seeing double covers, he's seeing
loaded zones and things that are taking his free access

(47:35):
to space away. But the elite wide receivers they work
around that. That's kind of your badge of honor as
a number one receiver. You just want to see more consistency.
You want to see him put up more robust numbers.
Because of all the situations that we've talked about, like
justin Herbert's there, But you would like to think that

(47:56):
Caler Murray is in a pretty good quarterback. Caler Murrays
the top ten quarterback that you would think that they
would be able to produce at a greater level, and
it just hasn't happened. And some of that is not
only due to quarterback, but some of that falls on
the shoulders of Martin Harrison Jr.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
All right, let's go back now to a round one,
number nine pick. Overall, he's your fifth guy as far
as receiving guy first year guys, Romeo Donze for the
Chicago Bears, and they didn't really have much of a
chance to do much because you had a roster with
DJ Moore and Keenan Allen. I mean, so he wasn't
going to get much with a rookie quarterback and Williams.

(48:31):
So again he didn't do much on a team that
hasn't done much.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
Yeah, I mean, like the team has been a mess.
The offense situation was a mess. You couldn't figure out
what was going on with Saint Shane Wald and they
fired the coach. They fired the head coach. After that,
Thomas Brown takes over and so it's just a lot
of stuff in flux with that, like that's it, you
steal roma. Dunze is talented, he makes plays. He hasn't

(48:57):
necessarily had the chances or the opportunities that some of
or that we thought because everyone remember back in the preseason, Man,
this team may never never punt, they're so talented. That
has not been true. They have punted quite a bit. Man,
He's been he's been fine, he's been solid, and so
he gets to fifth slot over some other guys that
certainly we're in consideration.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
Okay, now, if I'm not mistaken it, but I do
believe that you thought that maybe you picked do you
wrote about this that brought Bowers from the Las Vegas
Range is going to be the offensive rookie of the year.
The tight end should have said you a pick? Okay,
should be sure dominant to tell me why. And I
got an argument with you on that.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
One leads all tight ends, every tight end rookie veteran,
leads them all, targets yards, catches all that on pace
to break Mike Dickens's record for yards by a rookie,
like goes way all the way back to I think
nineteen sixty one. I mean, he is a dominant player.
He is exactly what many of us thought that he

(49:57):
would be as the best in the draft. He has
lived up to that. He is someone that there is
nothing around him, nobody around him to take away, to
divert some of the attention on him, yet he consistently produces.
You remember what I said about Marvin Harrison Junior and
what the expectation is when you're a dominant player, how
you consistently put up these numbers. That's what brock Bowers

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has done. And so to me, it's an easy conversation
when it comes to Offense river of the Year. Look,
brock Bowers should be first, second, and third. The other
guys have had moments. This dude just has a season.
That's why he deserves the honor.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
Again playing on a real bad team, right, I mean,
which is an amazing, terrible, terrible. Now here's my argument
to if brock Bowers could or should win the Offensive
Rookie of the Year, why can't Joe Burrow win the MVP.
Joe Burrow leaves the NFL with thirty three touchdown passes.
Joe Burrow has three thousand, seven d and six passing

(50:51):
yards two hundred eighty five point one yards per game
is one on seven point nine passing rating ranks fourth
behind two of the top three candidates. Four point one
quarter about writing ranks second behind the leader in the
clubhouse for the award this season. All right, why can't
he be in the conversation for MVP, which he's not.
I get it. The team is five and eight, but

(51:12):
still in all it's all about stats. And now I've
seen the stats with Bowers on a bad team. Burrow's
got the stats on a bad team. And I don't
know why they're talking about now Josh Allen has moved
into the MVP's conversation. I don't understand it. I really don't.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
Look, Joe Burrows certainly should be in the conversation. The
numbers are what the numbers are. His numbers s exceed
what Josh Allen's numbers are. I would say that you
could have the argument about Josh Allen MVP and do
we feel sympathetic to Josh Allen because he's never won it?
To me, the really MVP of Saquon Bark, right, say,
kwarn Bark is a guy who deserve I mean, like,

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if you look at.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
Then they'll probably give them the Offensive Player of the
Year award.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
Yeah, I mean yeah, but he should be the most
valuable player when you look at it. If that goes
to the best player, he should get that. I mean,
sixteen hundred yards already in those things. But to your
point about Joe Burrow, yeah, Joe Burrow should be in
the conversation. They just haven't won enough for people to
feel like his impact legitimizes him winning the award. But
he certainly should be in the conversation.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
All right. Speaking of Joe Borrow, the Bengals are playing
in Tennessee. That they're playing the Titans, and I said
it was the Master versus the Apprentice today with Zach
Taylor who's the Master, and his former offensive coordinator Brian
Callahan as the head coach at Tennessee. I get it.
You know, people are going to say, well, why would
he go to Tennessee. It's a dumpster fire as well
three in ten Look, there's only a certain amount of
jobs that are head jobs available in the National Football League.

(52:40):
You got a chance to run your show and be
a head coach, you gonna go. And that's what he did,
and hopefully they'll turn it around to Tennessee with Callahan's
a pretty good guy. But the Bengals, as I mentioned,
Burrow and Chase, how far can these two guys take them?
I got to believe that A they need better defense
and better defensive players, and B they need a running game.
I mean, you cannot win on the Borrow and Chase,

(53:03):
and that's basically what they do. And I watched the
football game I think it was Thursday night. I don't
know who it was, maybe Kurt herb Street or someone
mentioned during the game that the Bengals basically don't have
many screenplays. Draw plays is just basically run out, get
over there, get free, Chase, and I'll throw you the ball.
That's what they do.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
Yeah, I mean, you would like to see more creativity
and ingenuity from the mingos. It's not always there, and
I understand that.

Speaker 3 (53:34):
Man.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
Look it's a hard deal. Man, it's hard calling plays,
it's hard getting your team ready to play each week,
all of those things. You just would like to see
a little more from a squad that so much was
expected of. And for this team, the defense hasn't played great.
But sometimes the defense doesn't play well because the offense
puts them in bad situations. And those things. I would
just say, it's just overall in Cincinnati, it's been a

(53:56):
huge disappointment, particularly when you think about what was expected
of still doesn't how to steal is currently at top
of division, you're dealing with the Baltimore Ravens. The Browns
didn't materialize to be the team that some thought, namely me.
So you would like to think that the Bengers would
be better, and they just haven't been able to get
out their own way.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
You know, again, I put on my finger, and certainly
coaches are always responsible. I mean, team doesn't win, the
coach loses his job. That's basically going. It's all about.
I have no problem with Zach Taylor as a person,
you know, I see him. I've gone to meetings and
I've seen luncheons whatever it may be, always congenial. I
just a good guy. I have a problem with him
as a head coach. I just I don't think he

(54:36):
commands the respect and gets the most out of his players.
As to Mike Tomas, Mike Tomlin like squeezes these players
like a sponge and gets every drop of water out
of them. And he does, and to some extent, I
think they fear him and I don't think that these
players fear Zac Tailor, and I know you cannot be
feared if you don't have that in your makeup and

(54:56):
then your personality. You know, the certain coaches, you just
have to be yourself. And I remember watching coaches over
the years. If you're not that kind of a guy,
don't try to be that kind of guy. But Zach Taylor,
I think they need a guy who could crack the whip.
And I think if Toma was coaching Cincinnati, they would win.
I really believe that.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
I agree with you, but I think that speaks to
the special nature dispesionist of Mike Tomlin. I would say
with Zach Taylor, like you have to coach to your personality,
and his personality is his personality. He may not be
the most demonstrative, he's not a yelling screamer in those things,
but he has to continue to coach to that and
the things that he believes in the things that he

(55:39):
wants emphasized, those are still winning characteristicsts. I don't want
to dismiss him because he led the Bengals to a
Super Bowl, then in fact, they probably should have won
a super Bowl if not for a call down in
the end zone that gave the Rams some extra downs.
To say that Bengals could have been a super Bowl
winner under Zach Taylor. So I'm gonna give him his due.
He just has a different style than I would say

(56:00):
the traditional stereotypical NFL head coach, right, And.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
You know what, you hit it on the head. You
cannot change your personality. You got to be what you are.
For example, I remember going back to Marv Levy. Marv
Levy who coached the Buffalo Bills and they lost what
four Super Bowls. I mean, here's a gentleman. I can
never see Marv Levy raising his voice, but he got
the most out of his players. But because he was himself,
he was real. That's basically what it was. That Tony

(56:24):
Dungee the same thing. I don't think Tony Dungee probably
used the cuss word. I just don't think he did.
But you know, he was a successful coach. You got
to be what you are and that's it. So you know,
and I just think that I know what Zach Taylor is,
but I think this team needs someone who could crack through.
It was a little tougher, but I think today the
Bengals are just a better team than Tennessee, and I

(56:44):
think the game is more important for Cincinnati. So I
think Cincinnati wins that game. And speaking of Tennessee. In
Week thirteen, the Washington Commanders rush for almost two hundred
and seventy yards beating up on the Titans. Today they
play the Saints, the Saints Commander Saints. I think the
Commanders are playing for an NFC playoff spot, means more
to them. The Saints are giving up almost five yards

(57:06):
of carry. I think Commanders win that game today.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
Yeah, Marshall A. Lottimore has an opportunity to return against
his former team. He's going to be motivated and fired up.
The command is go time. You know, not that they're
locked in the postseason, but it's time for them to
make a push. If they're going to be a team
that gets into the tournament, has an opportunity to do
some damage. They got to start playing well. They got
to put it together. We want to see Jay Nanews
get back to playing the way that we saw him
and fell in love with him early in the year.

(57:31):
The rib injuries impacted that, but now you should be
kind of be coming out of that part of it.
He has to get back to being a special player,
because as he goes, they go right.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
Chiefs today are in Cleveland, Chiefs twelve and one. They
played in the Browns three and ten. The Chiefs have
ten one score games last week nineteen seventeen over the
Charge's less second field goal. Bucky Brooks is at luck,
or they just play good enough to win, or maybe
the cards just falling their way. I don't get it.
I really don't. Although as one score games in the
last second games, I mean, wow, I mean they'll they'll

(58:03):
beat Cleveland today. But you gotta win by more than
a field goal. You gotta win double digits. You got
to prove that you're as good as you think you are.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
Do you gotta win by more than that. I think
you know. They just keep winning. They just keep winning
like the rules of the game. So you just got
to finish the game with more points than the opponent.
They found a way to do it. It is nerve wracking.
And there's a bit of this mystique that's around the
Can't see the Chiefs where people talking about how lucky
they are and those things, and right, lady luck. It's

(58:34):
been on their side in some instances, but I don't
think you can dismiss how good they are in the clutch,
especially when number fifteen gets his hands on the ball.
I mean they are Look, man, they're dangerousing you.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
The look I would say if I'm the offensive Corditty
defenseive coordinator. I mean, if I'm a Skaggs in Kansas City.
What do you gotta do? You put pressure on Jameis Winston.
Why because he throws picks. I don't care how much
he prays to God, please don't let me throw a pick. Really,
he'll throw the picks. So you put pressure on Jameis today.
He'll throw picks, right, I mean, but after the game,

(59:10):
will say it again, I'm praying. I'm not praying enough. Wow.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
Yeah, I mean, look, you will put the ball in
harm's way. You have to know that. But you also
have to know that he's dangerous. He gives it and
he takes it away. He is going to put the
ball in tight windows. He is going to give his
guys every opportunity to win the game. You just got
to make the plays that are there because the erran
throws you have to catch. You have to turn those
errant throws into turnovers.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
Interesting stat though in the last three games, Patrick Mahomes
has been stacked thirteen times, so Miles Garrett could be
chopping at the bit. Today's tie for second most sacks
in the league eleven. So we'll see what happens. But
that's that's something, you know, that statistic, you know, we
have to really look into it because maybe he's holding
onto the ball a little too long. You know, it's

(59:59):
not a negative at time against the offensive line, but
maybe he's just holding onto the ball. Tool. You got
to see the tape to really justify that statistic that
he's been sacked thirteen times the list three games.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
Yeah, you got look at the tape. He is holding
onto the ball a long time. But sometimes that offensive
line sometimes that's the wide receiver is not uncovering. There
a lot of factors that go into sacks, right.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
But we do luck Kansas City today. They will win
today in Cleveland. All right, we roll on right now
on X you can get Bucky Brooks at Bucky Brooks
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In the next hour. You get him at Swollen Dome.
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at about twelve to thirteen minutes for now. But right
now we got the Dolphins playing at the Texans. Eight
and five Dolphins six and seven Texans. A little bit
of a disappointment this year. We expect a little bit
more of that. But the Dolphins struggled last week against
the bad Jets team Texans wide receiver and Nico Collins
averaging more than one hundred yards a game. The Dolphins

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run game is hurting the Dolphins. Obviously. I said it's
a playoff preview, but they're living on borrow time for
the playoffs, so I would have to think that Texans
win this one. Although dway that Dophins played last week.
As the judge, I gotta believe that Texans win this one.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
I think the Texans understand they got to turn it up.
You know, they're in line to win the division. Like
that's not necessarily thing, but if they want to be
a team that contends for the title, they have to
play better. They haven't played great all year and they
have to do it without Aziz el Shahir for the
next three games. This will be an opportunity for them
to get back on track. They're coming off of bidweek.
The last time we saw the Texas, they look like

(01:02:26):
a tired team. The bye week should have given them
a chance to reset, recover, refocus, and to get back
on track. I expect see a much better game because
they've had what two weeks off, we should start seeing
the best version of the Texans.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
Right by the way, I gotta mention, we're live Forthtiraq
dot Com Studio, so we roll along right now. And
speaking of the playoffs, which are right around the bend
right now, the Colts are playing at the Denver Broncos today.
Broncos a bit of a surprise, Chan Payne making some
votes for Coach of the Year.

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
What do you think, Yeah, look, deservedly so. What he's
done with bow next, what he's done with the team.
This team is Look, they one win from clinch and
being over five hundred, They've exceeded expectations. He's done a
really good job with bo nex bow Knicks playing well.
Boll Knicks's in the conversations offensive Rookie of the Year.
That tells you all that you need to know about

(01:03:15):
the job that Sean Payton has done. He has really
gotten this team to play well ahead of schedule. He
should be in consideration. But I'll say this, Mike Tomlin
has an opportunity to take that award just because of
what the Pittsburgh Steals have done. And I'm a firm believer.
If you haven't watched Hard Knox. Hard Knox has made

(01:03:37):
it very easy to fall in love with Mike Tomlin.
That sentiment could leak into the way to voters make decisions.
If the Pittsburgh still is win the division and finished
with twelve more wins, Mike Tomlin might get the award.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
I tell you what, though, He's another guy that we
got to mention. Kevin O'Connell Minnesota.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
He's been playing great too. I mean he's been he's
been coaching the tel off. This team is playing well.
He's done with Sam Donald. Sam Donald having I think
eleven games with a passer rating over one hundred. Sam
Donald playing at a level where now we're talking about
him being a forty million dollars quarterback. You have the
weapons around Sam Donald are terrific, but Kevin O'Connell does
a lot of and he does a lot of creative
things to make the game easy for the quarterback. You

(01:04:18):
couple that with the way the defense is playing in
Brian Floyd's and even though Brian Floyd's deserves credit, Kevin
O'Connor's the head coach. He brought Floyd's in. He's in
the conversation too.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
It'll be interesting really well. Now we got a mention
Colts at Broncos. If the Broncos win, they're all but
in the playoffs. If they lose and the Colts take
the lead on the final spot in the AFC, they
got Tennessee, the Giants and Jackson were left on their
schedule the Colts too, so they sort of have an
easy road to hoe down the stretch. But Broncos went today.

(01:04:49):
It looks like they'll be in the playoffs. Broncos have
forty seven sacks. We talk about their offensive Siarte of
the ball, forty seven sacks on the season. So what
do they do? I would say, if I'm the core,
the little pressure on Anthony Richardson today, that's what you
gotta do.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
Yeah, you gotta put pressure on Anthony Anthony versus is
shown that he'll turned the ball over. He will turn
the ball over. You want to put pressure on him.
You want to keep the pressure on him and see
if he can take care of the ball, if he
can handle it in those key moments. So yeah, I
think it is a great plan. Put pressure on him,
making young guy have to win it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
Broncos put up some points today. I think they went big,
like thirty one twenty eight, something like that, thirty one
eighteen that Broncos win Bronconcuiti's in Denver. They're crazy in Denver.
They really are Patriots. I'm trying. I'm trying by vest
Patriots at the Cardinals today. Cardinals six and seven, little disappointing, right,

(01:05:43):
Cardinals have lost three straight. I can't believe it. Patzla
have lost four out of five. Patrick's the Patriots quarterback,
Drake May. You're a guy from North Carolina. He's thrown
for more than one touchdown at just three of eight stars.
Not good, but again, who's he gonna throw it to?
That's the key. People look at stats and good Drake
made well, he has no one. It's a running game.

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That's basically what that team is. One running back and
that's what they do.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
Yeah, I mean, so here's what I say. The Cardinals
have kind of max out who they are, but great
chance for them. I'm excited to see what Drake May
does to finish the year. Can he finish the year
with the band? Can he finish the year? Kind of
teasing us in terms of what's to come, they said,
this is year, wanted to rebuilding project. Next year, they'll

(01:06:32):
really focus on surrounding with the weapons that he needs
to flourish. Let's see if he can steal one. Let's
see if he can play well enough to beat the Cardinals.
I'll go to Patriots on this one just to see.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
Really, I tell you why they got some dog games today.
I mean, honestly they got to. Really they got The
schedule today is like this is what al Michaels would
usually get on a Thursday night. Some of these games.
Really it's terrible, it really is. But the Cardinals right now,
they're running back James Connor. He needs one hundred and
thirty seven rushing yards to get a thousand. This year,
they got to win to keep the playoffs a lot,
so obviously the game means more if the Arizona game

(01:07:02):
is in Arizona. I take the Cardinals in this one,
but very very close. I mean like a field goal
maybe something like seventeen to fourteen win today, Cardinals, something
like that. I think the Cardinals do win that game.
Now here's a goodie. Finally, we get the late game
today on the East Coast on CBS about four point
thirty this say, after in Eastern Time. The Bills ten

(01:07:24):
and three at the Lions twelve and one. But here's
the deal. Can the Bills defense slow down this Lions
offensive machine? Know what can happened last week with the
Rams forty four to forty two over the Bills. Can
they do it? That's the key right in there. I mean,
I don't know if, if the if the Bills can
stop the Lions offense, I don't know. It could be
a shootout today. But I love the Lions, and you

(01:07:47):
know what, give them injury left and injury right. They
keep on winning. I mean, they lose plays every single week,
but they keep on winning.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
They do find a way to keep on winning, right.
It is amazing how they're able to do it. They
find various ways to keep on to keep on winning.
I feel you know that. I like what you're saying
about them. The Lions had been beat up, banged up,
But this Bills team is vulnerable against teams that play
a very physical style meeting. They run right at them.

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Big physical offensive line from the Lions gives them a
big advantage. I'm gonna go to the Lions because the
Lions are at home. I'm going to the Lions in
this one.

Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
Not only do I want the Lions to win, and
not only do I think the Lions will win, I
want to see Josh Allen throw four picks today because
I want to see Joe Burrow win the a VP. Really,
I'd like I want to see win the MVP. Get
Josh Allen's name out of the conversation with MVP. If
the Lions could beat them badly, and if Allum that
maybe two to three picks, I don't think he's gonna

(01:08:47):
throw four picks, two or three picks today. I'd love
to see that, and all of a sudden, Joe Burrow
throws for three hundred yards today and three touchdowns, and
all of a sudden, Joe Borrow's name is up there.
At least they could salvage something in a terrible season.
Although the Bengals still have three percent chance they claim
on the Fox deal. The Fox charts there, so you
had three percent chance to make the playoffs. But I

(01:09:07):
want to see Joe Burrow gets something. I mean, he's
had a rough week. They robbed his house. I mean,
come on, he's on a bad team. I mean, everything
that's gone wrong for him. Give him the m v
P trophy. At least do that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:21):
Wow, hater in the building. It's such a hater, Andy,
I did not know your hated.

Speaker 2 (01:09:27):
Really, you could look at me. I'm a homer. I
want to see Joe Burrow do well. I mean, I
don't hate Josh Allen, but if if Joe Burrow could
get the m v P, it sounds like if Josh
Allen's mistakes would be great.

Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
It sounded like a lot of hate coming out of there,
and it sounded like it sounds like there's a lot
of positivity, and it sounded like some hate that was
coming from there. But I'm gonna let you beat you.
I'll let you go and do your think. But I
worry about that Josh Allen to me, I think this
is when Josh Allen makes a play to be the MVP.

(01:09:59):
He understands what's on the line, he understands what's a stake.
This is when he needs to make his move. He
has to make his push if he's going to be
the dude. The only way for him to do it
is to have a big game on a major stage.
This is a major stage because everyone is looking at
the number one team in the league. The Detroit Lions.
If he pulls this off on the heels of what
he did versus the rams Man, you might sort of

(01:10:19):
etch his name on the MVP Trophy. Big win would
be in order if I still like the lines of
this one.

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
Right, And you've always said it's a bit of a
copycat league, right, So I'm looking at the Detroit Lions,
and they got perhaps the best one two running combination
in the league at Jamier Gibbs and David Montgomery. Okay,
so obviously you would think other teams would want to
get a one to two running combination, and they don't.
I mean, you know most look at Dallas, they don't

(01:10:46):
even have a running combiny. I mean, you know the Bengals.
I mean, this kid Chase, but you got to get runners,
and especially this time of the year. I know Detroit
plays indoors, but this time of the year and the
cold weather, you cannot have a a top notch passing
game in a blizzard. You need to run the football
and most teams don't do it. Look what the Detroit

(01:11:08):
lines are doing. They winning on tough defense and a
great run game. And the quarterback has really done well.
And he may be involved with the MVP conversation as
well golf. But you know, you got to get the
running combination, and Detroit's got it and Buffalo's trying to
get it now. They're trying to develop it right now.
But I just think Detroit has it all. They knew

(01:11:28):
what they were doing, and some guys and some teams
you would think. I mean again, I'll go back to
the Giants you get rid of, say Kwon Barkley, Are
you kidding? How do you do that? Really? It doesn't
make any.

Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
Sense, It doesn't make it doesn't make any sense. But
I'll say this about the lines. The lines certainly have
everything going on. The One thing that you worry about
with the Lions the injuries, the a culative effect of
losing so many guys, uh defensively eight Hutchinson for some
of the other guys that they've lost. You just worry
about that impact act on them. There's no doubt that

(01:12:02):
they're a good team, that they're a dynamic team if
they can do it offensively in a bunch of different ways.
But at some point, man, when you're playing these better teams,
it catches up with you, and I just wonder how
long before it catches up with them.

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
Okay, here's a million dollar question. At least in my mind.
I think it's a million dollar question. Would they be
as good as they are with this personnel they have
but without Dan Campbell as coach?

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
No, because I think Dan Campbell said the foundation with
the culture, they're a tough, gritty team because he's a tough,
gritty coach. Team. It takes on the personality of the coach.
And so if the coach is a tough guy and
demands toughness from his team, the team is gonna be tough. Now,
they would not be what they were, And anyone who
thinks they can replicate it has to make sure that
they have a coach that is as grizzled, as is confident,

(01:12:50):
as as fearless as Dan Campbell. Otherwise it doesn't work.

Speaker 2 (01:12:53):
And it's funny. We were talking about potential Coaches of
the Year, You toad Ja, Mike Tomlin. We told Sean Payton,
we did Kevin O'Connell. We didn't mentioned Dan Campbell.

Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
Did he win it last year? Though you could win
it last year.

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
I believe he doesn't know.

Speaker 1 (01:13:07):
I mean, I don't know. If we don't know, if
we give it the coaches back to back. I mean,
once she establishes great and I know it's not fair, right,
but it's kind of like the new the guy that
surpassed expectations. We expected the lines to be good this year.
You know, they didn't exceed expectations. He's done a great
job and if he hasn't won it, he should certainly
win it. But I thought we kind of expected this.

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
It'll be a tough vote. I mean, it'd be an
interesting vote, But I think there's games coming down the
stretch right now may decide in fact who's going to
get I mean, I look, you look at Buffalo with
that coaching staff, I mean, is he is he deserving
of it? I don't know. I just don't know. I mean,
they lose today, that's a big loss. Buffalo goes to
ten and four, big loss. If they lose, and they will,

(01:13:46):
they will lose to Detroit. In Detroit, tough place to play.
You played in there? Have you played it well? When
you played the they with ar.

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
Oh YEA yeah, No, No, I've played in the Yeah,
the last time they were in the Silver Nome. The
last that I went to Detroit with the last two
times i've been there, with the Jacks. I mean they
have absolutely mopped him up. It's a great environment. The
team is hungry. The team is the reflection of the city.
Tough environment, tough place to play here you.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
Go, and it's tough place to walk the streets to
at night, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
I mean, I don't know. I think every place has
its own like things that you have to be aware of.
You know what I'm saying. And you big, you're a
tough guy. You get what you're worried about. So I
was gonna attack you, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
All right, he's bucking Brooks. I'm Andy Fermawee. Have Fox
Football Sunday and Fox Sports Radio. It's the game of games.
It's bottom barrel betting and it's freaking next all right,
bottom barrel betting right around in the bed. It's about
eleven minutes now before the top of the hour. This
is Fox Football Sunday and Fox Sports Radio. And of
course we got this game to play well life from
the tire Rock dot Com studios. So let's play, all right,

(01:14:55):
Domato does it all? The jack of all trades, the
one and only Shay Shay.

Speaker 4 (01:15:00):
How are we doing, guys, Bucky, Andy, It's great to
be back. We're playing the game or I give Andy
and Bucky bets from around the world and they tell
me what they think. But it's not just any bets.
It's bets from games that you might have not even
heard of. So let's go over last week real quick,
Andy with the big time win to bring it to

(01:15:21):
thirty to thirty five.

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
Andy, my flag. I want to plant that a buckie's chest.

Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
That was big.

Speaker 6 (01:15:30):
That was big.

Speaker 2 (01:15:31):
I want my flag. They go, I'm gonna plant the flag.
How's that? No?

Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
I like that?

Speaker 6 (01:15:36):
I like that, Andy, Andy.

Speaker 4 (01:15:38):
The thing that pushed you over, if you want to
know is is the chess match where you took the
actually the underdog to win, and the underdog did win. Yes,
it was a big deal in the chess community if
you guys cared. But all right, let's get straight into
this week. In the Brazilian Futsal League, Yagua is taking
on Praya Club today at twelve thirty pm. Yagua is

(01:16:02):
minus one ninety while Prayer Club is plus two forty.

Speaker 6 (01:16:06):
Andy. Since you won last week, you get to go first.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
Thank you very much. Pray A Club is very close
to a player club, which I enjoy so it's pray
a club.

Speaker 6 (01:16:15):
I like the logic. Candy Lucky Bucky here.

Speaker 1 (01:16:20):
I like the logic and it's so illogical that I'm
gonna go the other way.

Speaker 6 (01:16:24):
Yeah, you're going for Bucky, all right? Sweet?

Speaker 4 (01:16:28):
Now, this this is a sport you guys probably haven't
heard of. Let me just set it up and then
i'll explain the sport in the Finnish Bandaliga, which is
a bandy league. Bandy is a sport popular in Europe,
Russia and kind of that area of the world. And
it's a mix of soccer and hockey, and it's also
known as winter soccer, so it's basically just hockey. They

(01:16:51):
wear skates, they have a stick and everything, but it's
a much bigger court and I think the goals are
much bigger as well.

Speaker 6 (01:16:58):
Some different rules. I don't think you can tackle people.

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
But it's outdoors.

Speaker 4 (01:17:03):
It's outdoors, yes, and they're actually on skates. It's not
like the floor one that I was telling you guys
last time, where they're just running around with sticks. But
Achilles is taking on ols right now. The over under
set at eight and a half and both over and
under is minus one twenty. So this is a little
bit different over and under. So it's set eight and
a half and it's minus one twenty for both the

(01:17:25):
over and the under.

Speaker 6 (01:17:26):
Bucky, let's start with you.

Speaker 1 (01:17:29):
I guess I go Achilles.

Speaker 2 (01:17:32):
Cool name. Really, I tell you what you're gonna lose,
Chrius Achilles healed. That's why I got Ols. I have
no idea what his stance will. But do you know
what OLS stands for?

Speaker 1 (01:17:41):
No idea.

Speaker 6 (01:17:41):
I tried looking for it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
I can't find.

Speaker 6 (01:17:44):
I don't think Bandy League websites.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
The lad that's what it is.

Speaker 6 (01:17:50):
I like that. I like that too much. Logic with
you today, Thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:17:55):
In the Ultimate Pool Mixed Pairs twenty twenty four. There,
it's taking place all week this week. Amy bu Camp
and Carl Sutton are minus one forty win the whole thing,
while Kerrie Randall and Sean Sharky are plus four fifty. Eddie,
let's start with you.

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
How could you go against a guy but the name
is Sharky? I mean, really, Sean Sharky, he's my guy.
Carry and Carry and Sharky are good sewn, and Kerry
got him.

Speaker 1 (01:18:24):
I like that. I like that.

Speaker 4 (01:18:25):
Bucky, Okay, Well, I can't take the shark tank. So
I had to go to the So you Amy bu
Camp and Carl Sutton.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
Yeah, Carl Sutton. Sutton gets it done.

Speaker 2 (01:18:36):
You know, I'm gonna say this. He may not take
the shark tank, but he's going to tank. Bucky's gonna do.
I'm in his head now, I got a condo in
Bucket Brooks's head. That's what I got right now.

Speaker 1 (01:18:45):
You're you're in my head because after two years, you're
making the game close. I feel like I'm going to.

Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
Feeling that he could kind of like a rookie in
the NFL, rookie quarterback. It takes about a year or
two to get ready, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:19:00):
You could tie it up if you win out this week,
you could tie it up. But let's let's let's get
these last two.

Speaker 1 (01:19:06):
Yes, yeah, he sweeps.

Speaker 4 (01:19:08):
In the women's handball European Championship, France is taking on
Hungary today at six fifteen am Pacific Standard time. France's
minus two twenty five all Poland is plus two seventy
Andy Hungary.

Speaker 2 (01:19:18):
I'm always hunger for this Hungary.

Speaker 6 (01:19:22):
Yeah, all right, sweet?

Speaker 1 (01:19:23):
Have you seen have you seen the dominant girl for France?
Like how dominant she is. Have you had a chance
to see some of the clips on YouTube? Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:19:32):
Whoa? Tell me about it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:33):
Next week, I'll take I'm gonna take France, I'll take
a friend.

Speaker 6 (01:19:37):
Okay, okay, I guess she's Donna.

Speaker 1 (01:19:39):
I didn't know, but.

Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
Just playing with me.

Speaker 1 (01:19:44):
I'm gonna start number nine, number nine.

Speaker 6 (01:19:46):
She is number nine. Oh man.

Speaker 4 (01:19:49):
All right, I'll see if there is a number nine
on the team and I'll come back to you guys
with that next week.

Speaker 6 (01:19:54):
Good luck to you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:19:55):
All right, here we go, Thank you so much. Swallow
dome us next right here, Fox

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