Fox Football Sunday: Andy Furman & Bucky Brooks talk NFL Week 17 Preview, College Football Bowl Games and So Much More!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. All right, who
really won? Who really won? Well, we'll tell you that.
We'll talk about traditions and history in just about a minute.
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we want to wish everybody a most pleasant holiday season.
I hope you had a merry Christmas, wonderful, happy Hanukah,
happy Kwanza, and a happy, healthy New Year's to come.
Because this is our last show of the year, twenty

(00:43):
twenty four. All right, and look, I understand there was
tremendous football yesterday, implications in the playoff situations and things
like that. Let me put that in the back burner
for just a second. A couple of things. I want
to get off my chest, all right. My chest isn't
that big, but I just want to get it off there. Okay,
I want to go back to Christmas Day if I can.
All right, let's talk about Christmas Day. What exactly happened

(01:05):
on Christmas Day? When I say, who won? I talk
about tradition. Let's talk about the NBA thing on Christmas Day.
Talk about Lebron James, the King, big, big NFL fan,
Yes he is. He tweets a lot of times about
his hometown Cleveland, Browns, talks about the Cowboys, and even
puts his predictions for NFL games on Instagram. We've seen
that he loves the NBA. He says, I love the NFL. Okay,

(01:27):
but I love the NBA. But he says, Christmas is
our day. Christmas is our day. He's talking about the
NBA should be their day. They talk about Christmas Day.
The Lakers beat the Golden State Warriors. That was a
tremendous game back on Christmas Day, Austin Reeves. I believe
it was played the hero last second game winner of
a Golden State. It was a great battle between Lebron

(01:47):
and Steph Curry. Okay, we know that Christmas traditions basketball
NBA goes way back. You want to know how far
back it goes? I'll tell you way back to nineteen
forty seven when the Baltimore Bullets, yes they were called
the Bullets back then. The Baltimore Bullets speat to Chicago
Stags the same day. Back in nineteen forty seven, the

(02:07):
New York Knicks took care of the Providence Steamrollers, and
the Washington Capitals beat up on the Saint Louis Bombers.
All right about eighty years now since then. The only
year that there was not NBA on Christmas was nineteen
ninety eight when there was a lockout and postponed the
started the ninety eight ninety nine season, and they didn't

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play basketball until like February fifth, nineteen ninety nine, all right,
And then all of a sudden, the NFL started to
move in. They tried to move in, they did move in, okay,
and I think they had at least one game on
the holiday season since twenty twenty. And it continued, all right.
And there was two games this past Christmas defending Kansas
City the champions, the Chiefs against the Pittsburgh Steelers and

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the Houston Texans against the Baltimore Ravens. And the halftime
was pretty big. Beyonce put on a concert, and basically
that concert was as good as any Super Bowl halftime show.
It really was. Okay, But for all the hype for
the Hoopa, even for Beyonce, the games were out of control.
The Chiefs and Ravens won and blowouts. The NBA action

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was pretty pretty incredible. As a matter of fact, four
of the five NBA games were decided by six points
or less and the other was a ten point game.
And the young stars put on big shows on Christmas Day, Victor,
when Beyona he scored forty plus points, it was a
big deal. Okay, So let's find out who won. Who
won on Christmas Day? And the NBA announced the other
day that on Christmas Day, the NBA ratings were up

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eighty three percent from last year, a big jump, but honestly,
you gotta pull back the curtain, tear the onion peels over,
and really what happened? They say they were up eighty
three percent, But the average viewership for the NBA was
five point two five million for the Christmas games. The
average viewership for the NFL twenty four point two million.

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And that's amazing because they're on basically streaming services. Okay,
they say the NBA, and they tried the hype they could.
The NBA delivered its most watched Christmas Day game in
five years, and they said the average five point two
five million ain't gonna cut it all right. They want
to just say, look, put up the white flag and
say we concede. We cannot compete with the NFL. I'm

(04:21):
talking about the NFL. The men who played in the NFL,
my partner, my friend, they're one and only. Bucket Brooks.
You hope you had a great Christmas book? How you doing.
I didn't meet to steal the thunder over here, but
I want them to get it off by chest because
the NFL has basically pushed the NBA in the corner.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Yeah, I mean, for so long, Christmas Day was all
about the NBA and that was kind of the launching
point for the NBA season, and the NFL fringed upon
their territory. Even though it was a Wednesday start, which
is odd obviously by the NFL calendar. But this is
something that the NFL has started inching tours, trying to
take over major holidays. And even though the NBA's ratings

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are up, like you said, eighty nine percent, which is amazing.
I still think there was something about watching the games
that we had on Christmas when it came to NFL viewership.
Some of those games weren't necessarily as exciting as we
thought they would be when we kind of saw them
on the calendar months ago. But I just think it's
another example of the NBA kind of doing whatever it

(05:21):
wants to.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Do, right, and you know what, they can do what
they want to do, but I think they're going to
just take a side step and say, look, let's not
do it. And the funny thing is no one has
mentioned this. The NHL has never played on Christmas Day.
I think they realized that there's no shot that we
have any spec of hope that's almost gonna watch us. Yeah, NHL,
it's a great sport, but it's not made for TV.

(05:42):
NFL's made for TV. That's basically what it's all about.
NHL never had a game on Christmas Day. Think about
that for a second.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Wow, that is amazing, and that's the winter sport. You
would think that they would have dominated at that holiday
in the past.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
Right, But you know what doesn't do that. They have
their own little deal. They have the New Year's Day
deal when they play outdoors. I think they'll be in
Ridgley feel this year. I mean, so they have their
own little platform and they know what they got to do,
and they know where they belong. And maybe one day
the NBA is going to learn like, all right, we
had it good for a while, but you know what,
we need to do something else, and that end season

(06:17):
tournament in cutting it either because no one knows how
it works and no one cares about it. The only
thing that people care about what the NBA is the playoffs.
That's what they do. And I love the NBA, but
it doesn't mean anything until playoff time comes. But let's
talk about the football games that happen on Christmas Day
and we'll move on. Because Kansas City right now, everybody
was talking about their offense, Travis Kelsey, but being by
a bang. They beat up on Pittsburgh pretty good, twenty

(06:38):
nine to ten, and the offense looks like they're coming
to life again. Travis Kelcey not slowing down at all. Right,
He's making that playoff push. I think they know they
know in the playoffs are right around the corner. It's
not to kind of kicking in the second gear looks
like the Chiefs have already done that.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah, I think the Chiefs certainly have a winning formula
and they kind of understand who they are and despite
all of the outrage that is kind of centered around
the team for the entire season, they kind of understand
how to ramp it up and get it going headed
into the playoffs. That's the greatness of Andy Reid. He
understands how to get his team ready. And you're seeing them.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
Begin to play like the Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
So long we were kind of worried about their offense,
and because offense is so much different than the way
that it started five six years ago, when it's a
high line circus, it's now become more of a ball control,
highly efficient offense. And with their defense and the special
teams playing to the level that they're playing, the complimentary
football approach that ken Ciey is using is working and

(07:37):
it makes them a far more dangerous team than many
of us speculator as they head into the tournament.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
And it's funny I mentioned Travis Kelsey. He began the
Chiefs soul time leader in touchdown catches. He broke a
tie with all the fame at Tony Gonzalez unbelievable. His
seventy seventh regular season touchdown, and it was tremendous. It
really was fifty fourth from Patrick Mahomes. But I know
the loser in that game obviously the Steelers. But there's
some questions right now. They drop three straight. The Steelers
have Russell Wilson right now, what's happening? Had one of

(08:04):
his worst games of the year. And there was an excuse,
I mean, everybody has an excuse. They said, well, you know,
George Pickens wasn't playing. He played Christmas Day, and basically
he went twenty three to thirty seven for two oh five,
about five yards per attempt, had an interception. He's slumping
right now. When so of the Pittsburgh steel is it's unbelievable.
I mean they're twenty six in the league on offensive
success rate.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
Yeah, now you're gonna have some of this.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
And the Stillers are kind of in the middle of
a slide right They've lost three games in a row.
Russell Wilson was never supposed to carry the Steelers offense.
He was supposed to be a guy that was a
manager who could take it over sometimes in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
And we got a little ward because he had a
series of games they kind of led you to believe
that old Russell was back.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
I think what this does it gives Arthur Smith and
Mike Tomlin a true sense of who Russell woods in
there is how it needs to be managed in the playoffs,
and how they need to play if they're going to
be successful in the playoffs. Just because they've lost three
games in a row, I don't think it takes any of.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
The shine off of the Steelers. They're still a very,
very dangerous team. But I think we all knew that
their path to victory.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Is narrow, and they have to make sure that they
stay on that little narrow road if they're gonna win
in the postseason.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
You know, it's funny because I think the success of
the Pittsburgh Steels is the defensive side of the ball
and not the offensive side. And Patrick Mahomes was not
sacked one time, and he wasn't even bothered by TJ. Watt,
I mean, and basically those guys were dominating all season long.
They got to get that defense stronger if they want
to make some sort of a playoff run. I don't
know if they can right now.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Yeah, now, I think they can get it, they can
get it stronger. It's just about deploying the chess pieces.
And you talk about TJ. Watt and what they have
on defense. They've had a couple of injuries that have changed.
Jeordy Porter Jr. Has been out early in the year.
He's playing like a shutdown corner. They have enough time
to kind of get the defense going. The main thing

(09:54):
that they have to be able to do. Pittsburgh is
at his best when they're being able to be super aggressive.
They're bringing pressure because the pressure creates chaos, which creates turnovers.
They need to create turnovers because it allows them to
kind of stand a shale.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
On offense, they don't have to do much.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
They can just run it, run it, run it away
for their scoring opportunities in either kick field goals or
punch it in when they get favorable position.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
But if the defense doesn't set up to the offense.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
It makes it very, very hard for the Pittsburgh Steelers
to generate points. And so we can talk about that
narrow path where it's run game defense and some special
plays on occasion from Russell Wilson. But that is their formula,
that is their blueprint, and that's how they got the
ten wins, they got to make sure they stick to
the recipe.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
Okay, moving along on Christmas Day was the Ravens rolling
over the Texans thirty one to two. I'll tell you
what though, I mean, I'm really surprised with the Texans offense. Really. Look,
they lost Tank Dell. We know that you mentioned that
last week. He had a brutal injury. It was disgusting
to see that on the TV. Was ugly. But you
know what, so much their offense CJ Stroud. He went
seventeen to thirty one that day on Christmas one to

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eighty five, had an interception, he took five sacks, and
it just was not the Texans team that we thought
it would be. But you know what, on the positive
side with the Ravens, you know they've talked about Lamar
Jackson in the MVP hunt with Josh Allen. He had
two big games Lamar Jackson did against the Steelers and
against the Texans. In those two games, he went something

(11:18):
for like twenty five to thirty eight, five touchdowns, and
it looks like right now that he's right back up
there talking about the MVP situation.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
He should be up there and the thing is national
TV has such an impact on how we feel about
the MVP race. When you look at Josh Allen, he
had back to back games on a national stage. They
really kind of propelled him to be in that spot.
I won't even say back to back games, but it
was the Rams game followed by the Detroit game that
really put him up there. And other games that he's

(11:49):
had an opportunity to play on a national platform, he's thrived.
But when you look at Lamar Jackson to the back
to back performances, but then when you look at the numbers,
Lamar Jackson is playing the best football of his career.
And when you talk about someone being the passing touchdowns
leader on top of what he's at it on the ground, yeah,

(12:10):
he certainly should be up there. And if you ask me,
I think, if not for the record, and I think
it was really important for the Ravens to win the
AFC North if Lamar Jackson is going to be the
MVP because before you could say yeah, but like they're
the sixth seed and the numbers are great, but Josh
Allen led his team to a division title. Now that

(12:32):
the team's success is comparable. When you dig into the numbers.
Lamar Jackson has a very very good case to be
the backback MVP Award winner.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
No doubt about that. And let's take a look here,
and I'm going to walk through if I can, the
playoff situation as we stand right now. To the Chiefs, obviously,
they got their goal. They locked up the coveted number
one seed and the playoff by that comes with us.
So they got that. Did they defend the chance? And
they're to be home for the playoffs? I think that
we know. Okay, let's talk about the Texans. Even though
they got blown out on Christmas, They're still going to

(13:01):
be the AFC's number four team, okay, and their wild
caught opponent is becoming a little bit of a little
clearer right now. They may be playing Houston. Houston would
be playing the Steelers, I think, according to what's happening
right now with the Steelers. So it could be the
Texans and the Steelers will be meeting in the first
round of the players. But we'll see, you know, I

(13:22):
don't know, but the Steelers right now, a couple of
weeks ago, they were ten and three, now to ten
and six, so I don't know what's happening with the Steelers.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
We'll see well ranted three really good teams.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
They lost their way a little bit because Pickens didn't play,
and then it's about them kind of coming back to
the mean. The other thing that we're seeing when it
comes to the Steelers, and the Steelers may prefer that
matchup against the Texans because the Texans are limping.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
Into the tournament. C J.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Stroud isn't playing well, they don't have as many weapons
on a perimeter. Nico Collins is kind of the only
thing in the passing game. It might be a better
matchup for the Steelers to be able to advance beyond
the wildcard round. When you look at the Steelers in
comparison to the Baltimore Ravens, this is the Ravens team
that we've wanted to see. This is the dominant team
that we talked about being a title contender. It's about

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their consistency and the avoidance of the self inflicted mistakes.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
When they play the right way.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
It's really hard to beat the Baltimore Ravens, and we're
beginning to see them kind of stack together those positive
performances in succession, which makes you think that they may
have a legitimate chance to win it all.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
Okay, they got a good shot of winning. If they
win Week eighteen, they're gonna win the AFC North and
they're gonna host either the Steelers Charges or Broncos in
the wildcard round. We'll see the Broncos gotta win out
as well, so we'll see what happens. So it comes
down to the end there, and it's pretty good good.
So I like the way the NFL scheduling has been
doing this in the least several years, because years back,

(14:47):
you know, they had these nothing games the last two
to three weeks and the players will be rested and
things like that. Now every game means something, and like
coming down to the stretch, especially, I look at the
Cincinnati Bengals, they're playing the Steelers next week, and you
know it's winner go home again, as they did yesterday.
We'll get into that. So I think the schedule makers
have really done the fans a good service right now
as far as keeping everybody nail bodding towards the end.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yeah, they're one of those games at the end of
the year to have meaning, and part of the way
they were able to do that is by making sure
that they put all the division rivalry games at the end.
When you play within your division, it gives you an
opportunity to do some of that stuff, you know, to
create this intrigue because the intensity of division games are
different than when they're non divisional games, and because there's

(15:33):
so much riding on it, we're seeing a lot of
great football, which is exactly what you want to see.
And you have to be excited because somehow, some way,
Joe Burrow and the Bengals have kind of crept back
into playoff contention. And if they get into the mix,
now the conversation about Joe Burrow being.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
MVP has more weight.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
Yeah, we're going to get into that, I mean, and
that to me, and I'm not saying that because you know,
I'm kind of a hometown got a little bit. Well, yeah,
I want them to win because I think it's great
for the city. I don't want see anybody walking around
with a sour face. And you know, I just it
was a great game, you know, regardless of like who
would have won that game yesterday, it still was a

(16:15):
great great a lot of drama, and I tell you
what I mean, I'm happy for that field goal kicker
that the Bengals won, because, believe me, he would have
had that harnting him for the rest of his life. Really,
I mean it was it was kde York. I mean,
come on, really, he's given a shot to come in
there to play replace Evan McPherson who's injured. He comes
down there, tries to kick a thirty three yarder, hits

(16:35):
the left post. Are you kidding? I was thinking, Oh
my goodness, the demons are out. It was amazing. Really
when you think about that, and they get the ball back,
We'll get it to that because I had a little
bit of a question of the time management with Zach Taylor.
I mean, I just I tell you what. He escaped
some heavy duty criticism by getting that win. There's no
doubt about that.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
Yeah, he did. Because there are a lot of questions.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
I'll get texts all over about the last the secrets
in those things, and it's tough and sometimes you get locked.
But the great coaches have a way of compartmentalizing, or
they delegate to an assistant on the team whose job
is to focus solely on time, score situation, how to
manage it at all.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
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let's get into this game yesterday, which is one of
the best games I've seen in a while. It was
the Bengals. That Bengals are back and they're alive in
the AFC playoff race, lit by Joe Burrow's four touchdowns,
one rushing touchdown, by the way, they beat up on

(18:42):
the Denver Broncos thirty twenty four and overtime in Cincinnati.
In Denver, they missed a golden opportunity to clinch the
first playoff berth since twenty fifteen. Now, let me run
this value bucket, Brooks if I can. If the Bengals
make the playoffs, Joe Burrow and you mentioned this a
little early on, He's gonna have a big time case
for the league MVP Award. He finished thirty nine for

(19:03):
forty nine yesterday four to twelve yards, three touchdowns, no interceptions,
pass areating of one twenty two point one. Okay, let's
put this now. In the fourth quarter and the overtime,
he just carried this Bengals team to the victory. He
went eighteen for twenty two hundred seventeen yards, two touchdowns,
a rating of one forty five point two. He rushed
for the go ahead touchdown late in the fourth quarter,

(19:25):
and he threw that winning touchdown and overtime to t Higgins.
It was burrows eighth consecutive game with two hundred and
fifty plus passing yards and three plus passing touchdowns, the
most for any player in nf foul history. How do
you like that?

Speaker 3 (19:41):
Look? Has been really impressive?

Speaker 4 (19:42):
Man?

Speaker 2 (19:43):
What's been most impressive in watching Joe Burrows? Everyone who
tracked him from his college as at LSU leading the
Tigers to a national title to what he's been able
to do in Cincinnati knows his competitive spirit, and his
competitive spirit is obviously contagious when you look at the
way the are playing, despite what their record is, despite
the circumstances they face. To me, as a testament to

(20:05):
the quarterback Joe Burrow more so than the coach. At
no point did Joe Burrow pack end this season. At
no point did Joe Burrow kind of put out there
that his team doesn't have a chance. He put a
lot more on him and challenged his guys internally and
by the way that he went about his business to
raise their level of play.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
And they've done it.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
And when you think about the definition of most Valuable Player,
I think you certainly can point to Joe Burrow and
say that he embodies those characteristics in traits based on
what he's been able to do with the team.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
I ask you, Bucky Brooks, how surprised are you with
the success of Joe Burrow in the National Football League?
A guy who couldn't play at Ohio State, how to
transfer TOSU and now basically he's in the conversation for
MVP in the National Football League.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
Well, I mean, I think everybody.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Everyone's just say that they were surprised because the guy
that you saw at Ohio State, who you didn't see
goes to LSU. The first year he plays at LSU,
the numbers weren't remarkable. The second year is an explosion.
The thing that you had to separate from his Heisman year.
How much was him and how much was the cast
around him, because remember he probably justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
He had weapons, good lore.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
All of those players, uh huh were dynamic, they were
NFL players, And so how much was that? You now
have realized how much it was him being the point
guard and his superpowers are the way that he directs
the offense because whenever the Bengals get in trouble, they
go empty, they spread it out, and they put it
on Joe Burrow to make the decisions. Every quarterback isn't

(21:36):
capable of being that past first point guard like he
is now. It also helps that he was a high
level basketball player in high school and he plays the
game like that. You see the vision from him that
you received from an elite NBA basketball player that is
kind of directing the floor. So yeah, it's a surprise,
but the more you get to know him, it shouldn't

(21:58):
be surprising when you know his competitive.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Makeup, well, you know, you're mentioning the fact that he
should be in the conversation for MVP f in fact
they get to the playoffs. I feel the same way,
But there's another person who said that as well, and
that's his coach, Zach Taylor. Zach Taylor and Joe Burrow
getting the MVP.

Speaker 5 (22:13):
I don't know that anybody can stand on a field
and watch Joe Burrow and say he's not the best
player in the world, you know. And then you can
transfer that argument to Jamaar Chase as well, you know,
and you can argue those.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
Two to death.

Speaker 5 (22:24):
But the clearest thing I can say is I would
not trade Joe Burrow for any player in the universe.
And so to me, that's that's MVP to me.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
All right.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
Zach Taylor, head coach of the Bengals, I think he's
a great player, but I don't know if he's the
greatest player in the world. I mean, I know we
kind of have the greatest player in the way. You
know why he loves him. He's gonna save his hands
for his job. That's why he loves him.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
I mean, look, I'll say this about that.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
As a coach, you should go to bet, you should
go to bed for your player like that, because that's
what they want.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
You know.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
Joe Burrow is fantastic and he has certainly helped Zach
Taylor become a better coach. Because he's been able to
erase some of the mistakes that Zach Taylor may have,
whether it's the play called, the game plan, or those things.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
And that's what great players do.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
There's not a great coach who hasn't been impacted by
great players.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
That's a part of the deal.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
And Joe Burrow has given Zach Taylor an opportunity to
be great because Joe Burrow is great, and I can
understand his love affair with Cincinnati's number nine.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
One last thing about Joe Burrow that we're gonna do
Zach Tayler for a second. Okay. During this four game
winning streaker bake, get the Bengals back to eight and eight,
Burrow's competed almost seventy six percent of his passes thirteen
hundred four yards, twelve touchdowns, only three at deceptions, a
passer rating of one sixteen point three. And for the season,
Burrow has completed sixty nine point eight percent of his
passes forty six hundred and forty one yards, forty two

(23:55):
touch forty two touchdowns, eight at deceptions at a one
oh nine point eight rating. Amazing. Okay, now let's get
into Zach Taylor, because he as good as Burrow was.
Zach Taylor's decision making a clock management almost blew the game. Okay,
he almost took away his team chance of winning and
extended a game that didn't need to be extended. Let's
maybe you can help me out with this, because why

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he did this and why it happened. Bengals had first
and goal at the Broncos six yard line in a
game that was tied at seventeen. Denver had just one
timeout and a minute thirty nine left on the clock.
Denver tried to let Cincinnati score, and the Bengals running
back Chase Brown hurt his ankle sliding and trying not
to score. Instead of kneeling down and running down the clock.

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After an injury to Chase Brown, the Bengals used the
tush push and Burrow scored a touchdown with a minute
and a half left. Because it was second down, I
understand the Bengals could have kneeled twice and burned up
the Denver final timeout. They could have kicked the goal.
I had field goal with just over thirty seconds to play,
forcing the Broncos then to go about four. He plused

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you odds with thirty seconds left and trying to get
a long field goal to force overtime didn't happen. So
I think it was kind of like a boo boo
move on Zach Taylor. Maybe he paticked, maybe he didn't know.
I don't understand what happened. Please tell me what happened there.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Well, I mean so many different factors could have influenced
Zach Saylor. One, you don't know what the officials told
him when it came to the clock run down, when
they're going to start the clock and those things. Even
though he's an NFL coach and head coach, you would
expect him to know the ins and outs of that.
The chaos of the moment might have overwhelmed him, and
maybe he got some misinformation, either from the officials or
from his own coaching staff. Regardless, it's on him to

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be able to know and manage that situation and to
make sure that he doesn't give the Broncos another chance
to get back into the game. And so, whether it's
kneeling multiple times to run out all the clock and
then kicking the game when the field goal, whether it's
taking it down once, running around a little bit before
you score, whatever it is they need to work through
those scenarios and so worked through those scenarios, so they

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executed right under pressure.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
He got a reprieve. He'll learned from the situation.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
But you're right, Look, it falls on him without being
privy to what the communication was on the field.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
Yeah, it certainly falls on Zach Taylor.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
For not executed the way that you would think a
veteran NFL coach would.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
Well, I tell you why. He's not alone because I
got a problem with Sean Payton as well, because when
the Broncos scored the touchdown, there was fourteen seconds left,
it was twenty four to twenty three. It was unbelievable.
Bone Nitson scored that pass. It is an amazing play.
I couldn't believe it. It was just tremendous really, So
bone Knicks then looked like he went to the bench.
They was singingally for the Broncos to go for two

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and win the game. In that twenty four to twenty
three game, the win would have clinched the playoff spot
for the Broncos if Denver went for the two and
they converted the too. However, Sean Payton pulled the offense
during the review of the Marvin Mims catch and then
that review stood it was a good catch and they
kicked an extra point to force the overtime. The decision

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for bow Knicks was a good one, and Sean Payton
should have listened to him, considering the Broncos clinched the
playoffs spot with a tie. If they tied the game,
they get to the playoffs and overtime it's ten minutes
instead of fifteen. Decision was still interesting given the history
of Sean Payton. I had a question with that, and
bon Knicks really and truly did the right deal, but
they didn't go for two.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
So here's the thing, and I think it's old school
versus new school mindset. So new school guy bow Knicks
wants to go for two because he's growing up in an
environment we're going for two is the norm. Old school
guy Sean Payton is used to the traditional way that
you play these games out where look, man, you take
the one, you go into overtime, you win in overtime.

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In those things, we can debate the merrits of whether
you go for two or not, because you still have to.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
Convert it and make the play. Man. I'm kind of
split on this one.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
I can see kind of both sides of the debate,
like why you would go for two?

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Ay, let's take our fate in our own hands.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
If we believe in the quarterback, believe in the offense,
let's decided that we should be the ones to determine
whether we win or not. But I also understand, like man,
I certainly would hate for everything to come down to
this one play and for us not to get it right.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
And now I hear what you're saying. I mean, look,
being a coach, especially in the National Football League, you're
up to criticism. Whatever you do, good, bitter and different,
win or lose, everybody's gonna second guess you. And like
in the heat of the moment, you know what, you know,
that's why these guys got the big bucks. It's easy
to sit in the stands and have a beer and say, hey,
you should go for two. There's a lot of things

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that go into it. And you're right, you don't know
what the official told him on the sidelines. You know.
The bottom line is just they still probably will make
the playoffs. I don't know. But as far as the
Bengals concern, they got to go to Pittsburgh next week
for another game that's a must win game. They also
need Denver to lose next week against the Chiefs, and
I got to believe the Chiefs will probably rest Patrick

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Mahomes and some other starters books they already have. They
have seeds number one seed, so we'll see what happens.
So I don't know. I mean, what do you think
you think the Chiefs will rest those guys?

Speaker 2 (29:10):
Knowing Andy Reid because they have the number one seed,
I would expect them to play a little bit because
that's a long layoff, all right, because you're gonna have
the bye week two weeks you're trying to get you
don't want to have the rust, and let's be honest,
their offense is just finding rhythm. I don't know, if
you want to get too cute trying to play this out,

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maybe look for them to play a half. Treat it
more like a preseason game when it comes to Pat
Mahomes and Travis Kelcey. But the rest of the guys
are going to play. He normally manages the bye week
and anything better than anybody else.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
I think they'll play.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
But if there's an injury or anybody that's dealing with anything,
they can sit out and so it a lot of
it depends on Patrick mahomes Sells. But don't expect to
see the stars that have been ailing. Chris Jones and
those guys. Don't expect to see them play.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
Right, I tell you what I go. I look at
that Denver game last night. I thought bow Knicks played
a fairly good game. It really did. And their defense
entered the game last night day something like the fifty
one sacks, which is number one in the league. They
sacked Borrow I think seven times last night. Zach Allen
was unbelievable. They couldn't block the guy like three and
a half sacks. But still and all I don't understand

(30:18):
what happened. He's so he's so set on running the football.
That's Sean Payne. He's like Jim Harbar too. I mean,
you got to pass the ball. I think Knicks wants
to pass. He does, but they run the ball. Gee
stop already. I mean, you weren't successful. They made the
Bengals defense look good last night. I couldn't believe the

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Bengals really was stopping the running game.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Well, you gotta remember this, bow Knicks is a rookie.
Bow Knicks has been slowly has slowly been given more
more leeway to do things, and Sean Payton has remember
this team was not supposed to be a playoff team.
He's gotten him to this point by leaning on the
running game. Adopted a very conservative office approach where he

(31:03):
loves this defense to set up the offense for success.
And I understand him sticking with the thing. Just about
the outcries of like ley Man, let bo Nicks cook
a little bit against this defense that hasn't played well.
I understand why he wants to stay to the script
because this has been the recipe for success for the Broncos.
Didn't work out against the Bengals, but it was an
overtime game. Look, he knows in the postseason, if they

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get in the postseason, he has to let it go
a little bit more.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
But I understand why he adopted this approach.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
Amazing it really is to talk about this Chargers game,
Charges rolling over the Patriots four to to seven, and
talk about Jim Harbor. I mean, I don't think he's
gonna ennok credit. He's got to be in the conversation
for Coach of the Year. Charged with five and twelve
last year and they ranked twenty second points per possession.
It's amazing. Get this star. I did some research, which
I don't usually do, but in five seasons in the

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National Football League, Jim Harbarugh has four to ten win seasons,
four playoff trips. He's the eighth coach in NFL history
to make the playoffs in his first season with two
different teams. The forty nine ers in the Charges and
he's fifty four to twenty five and one in the
National Football League. It's amazing. I mean, you can't tell
me that the Charges just happened to make the playoffs
this year. It's him. It's Jim Harbine. That kind of

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meant that the playoffs one hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
Jim harbb deserves a lot of credit for their success.
And what I love about Harbor when it comes to
that is he gives all the credit to the players.
He says that the players deserve the credit, that they're
responsible for the turnaround. They're the ones that made it happen.
Hats off to him for being able to do that.

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And one of the reasons why his players love playing
for him is because he's that kind of coach. He
gives his guys the flowers and look, man, I just
appreciate that. I appreciate watching him turn it around in
multiple spots, whether it's Stanford, San Francisco, Michigan and now
the Chargers.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
He has a recipe for success that works. It has
tried and true, is proven.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Some people missed out on having an opportunity to hire
him when the Chargers hired him. The Bears and the
Raiders missed out an opportunity to have a turnaround specialist
and they didn't do it for whatever reasons.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
Amazing, it really is, you know what. I think they
love him because he basically gets down on dirty with
the players. I'm watching Hard Knocks the other day and
he's in He's up like a six in the morning
in the weight room, doing chin ups and doing weights.
So unbelievable, right, I mean, you know how many coaches
do that?

Speaker 3 (33:24):
Not many. He is that guy.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
He does realist opportunity to kind of do the work
with them. They appreciate that, and I think they appreciate
his authenticity as a quirky type.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
Right.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
He might be a little quirky with his personality, but
I think it works for him because the people believe
that that's who he really is.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
I'm a little concerned watching him on the song lines.
He's walking with a little bit of a gimp. I
think he may have hip problems, that he may be
getting hip surgery. But I'm not correct or you know
that the inside information on Jim Harbidy's walking with a
limp a little bit.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
I don't have any inside information would concern me too,
walking with the limp, that would that would be that
would be concerning. Yeah, the dude goes hard, but you know,
he's sixty. He played a long time in the NFL,
So sometimes the bumps and bruises and the ailments that
you see him dealing with, that's a part of the
job description, you know, like he played so long in

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the league and get some.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
Of that, no doubt about that. Last, but not least,
let's talk about coaches here. What about Gerard Mayo. They
were embarrassed, I mean Patriots. I mean they look bad.
They look like they basically threw in the towel. Will
he be back next year to coach the Patriots?

Speaker 3 (34:31):
He will be given an opportunity to get back.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
I believe part of that is because the Crafts insisted
upon him being the coach. They had written that in
his contract when he was still working as an assistant
up under Bill Belichick. Yeah, he'll be back, and this
was going to be a bit of a rebuilding. You're
given the amount of players that they let out, the building,
the mass exodus of veteran leadership and those things. But

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he has to improve, They have to improve. All of
it has to be much much better.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
All right.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
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Speaker 1 (35:22):
Coming right up, it's about eleven minutes now before the
top of the hour. I'm Andy Furman. He's Bucky Brooks,
and now it's time for ask Bucket. We're live from
the TAIRAQ dot com studios. Let's get it done. All right,
here we go. You know it won't be a Bannaday
I said this coming into the segment. Won't be a
Bana day for the football Giants today when they host
the Indianapolis Colts. Why high exposure aerial advertising? They've canceled

(35:44):
orders for three banners carrying planes to fly over Medlive
Stadium today. The first plane, mister Mara, the owner of
the Giants, was Miss Tomarra enough, please fix this stumpster fire.
That plane flew over Medline Life on December the eighth.
The Federal Aviation Administration regulations prohibit banned planes from flying

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when the cloud ceiling is lower than eight hundred feet.
Bucky Brooks, Is this fair to loyal and passionate fans
who want to pay for a ban at the fly
over the stadium?

Speaker 3 (36:16):
It is fair. It's fair. We don't need to see that.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
Let's keep your positor. It's the holiday season. Let's keep
your positive. No need for everyone to be negative. Let's
keep your positive.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
You're so good, you really are, you really are? All right,
Let's get into Patentar Doozy. Now patn Oar Doozy the
football coach University of Pittsburgh. He opted for a game
time field goal in the second of a six overtime
loss to Toledo in the game above Sports Bowl. The
game was forty eight forty six. Toledo won that game.
That field goal, get this was from the one yard

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line instead of going for the win. Is hegutless? I
get this. The Panthers finished this season with six straight losses.
They started this season seven to zero.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
I wouldn't say he's got I think he was trying
to take the concerted approach and believe in his team.
I will also say this as someone who's been on.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
Some losing streaks.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
When you lose like that as a coach, you talk
about they lost what six straight games to close the season. Man,
there's so many things that are going through your head,
like just the losing impacts your decision making. And maybe
he was a little more fearful than he would have
been in the past because he had the string of
losses back to back to back to back to back.

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The impact you gotta be a little more courageous though.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
Let's talk about Miami, University of Miami and the Hurricanes
basketball coach Jim Laarernega. He stepped down the other day.
He quit. He cited the changing landscape of college athletics
is a big reason now. When Miami went to the
Final four in twenty twenty three, eight of his players
enter the transfer portal. The players said they loved it
at Miami, but the opportunity to make money someplace ELF

(37:54):
created a situation where they decided to transfer for the
nil money. I guess, okay, why not? But I assume
Jim Laernega did not mention leaving George Mason University for
more money at Miami when he led the Patriots on
a final four run in two thousand and six. Can
we call coach Jim Lronega hypocrit called hypogride?

Speaker 2 (38:20):
I do think it is difficult, though, to navigate the landscape.
It's hard, man, when you pour a lot into players
in those things, and then it does become such a
transactional ordeal no matter what, no matter what, coaches got paid.
A lot of coaches over who have the majority of
coaches got into coaching to impact young people. And so
when you feel like you're pouring in but it's not reciprocated,

(38:43):
I can see why it feels a certain way.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
Oh man, you're too kind. Really the players could get
the money, but he can't. I mean, come on, really,
will you move? No?

Speaker 2 (38:51):
I mean no, no, no, it's not so much that. I
don't even think it's about the money. I just think
it's the the constant reshuffling. That's hard because remember everybody
started coaching, they didn't start coaching at the highest level.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
You know.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
Some of that was watching people grow, building the program
up from the bottom.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
It's just a different hustle.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Now, all right, I got to ask you this, where
was your coach, Bill Belichick, the new coach at the
tar Heels when North Carolina, it's unbelievable. How'd they lose
to Yukon in a bowl game yesterday?

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Well, typically get the teen who wins the bowl game
is the more motivated team. Jim Mora junior had his
team to eight wins, the chance to go nine wins,
and they haven't done that much in the program's history.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
At Yukon.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
Carolina's a six and six team. Let's call the spade
a spade. Yukon was a better team. Bill Belichick didn't
go because I'm sure he didn't want to be a
distraction if he was there. He also wanted probably to
evaluate the team from AFAR, and what he saw was
a team that didn't play very well on the main stage.
So we'll see it's his team. Now it's his program
and see if he can fix it.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
I do have to apologize to the Huskies of Yukon
about a week ago. I was making fun of them
and you kind of slapped me around a little bit,
and you were right. They're not that bad. And they
just gave him a coaching extension Jim Mora junior, So
they're not that bad. I don't look at Connecticut as
kind of a school like that. But show me the money.
Bucky Brooks does that and so much more. Where Fox

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you doing. And by the way, I didn't even ask
how your Christmas was with you and yours.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
Everything was great, man, can't complain love the holiday season,
had a great time.

Speaker 3 (40:59):
Great back on with you, Andy.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
Thank you very much. I love you. I love being
with you. And that's great. You know a couple of
things I want to kind of clean up before we
get into what you wrote about an NFL dot com
talk about this Los Angeles Rams team. They started the
season like one in four. They're ten and six right now.
They've won five in a row. They've won what a
nine out of one and four that I know, and

(41:23):
they look they're looking at the clinch a playoffs spot
and honestly beating the Cards yesterday thirteen night. I gave
Arizona some credit because they were eliminated and they still
gave him a fight. There's no doubt about that. But
this team right now is going to be reckoning with
And look here's the deal. Seattle won Thursday night, So
the Rams entered yesterday needing a win against the Cardinals.

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They got that and three and a half or more
wins by any of these teams. The Vikings the Bills,
the forty nine Ers, the Bengals and Browns, the clint
A strength of victory tiebreaker over Seattle, and of course
the NFC West title. The Bengals beat the Broncos yesterday
for one of those wins, and so they're on their
way at Matthew Stafford yesterday Basically got it done, you

(42:05):
no doubt about that. So Sean McVay, you talk about
guys coach of the Year, and we talked about Harbaugh.
His name's going to be in that conversation as well.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
Yeah, his name certainly needs to be in the conversation.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
And what I'll say about Sean McVay, Sean McVay has
evolved as a coach, probably as much as any coach
that we've seen in.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
The National Football League.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
Sean McVay took over the Rams and was like lauded
for being the offensive guru, all of the wizardry that
he did with a unique offense where he took the
Shanahan system and added bills and whistles to it and
made it an unstoppable offense. They have since changed their
style and he's become less about the offense and more
about winning games in a complimentary style. They run the football,

(42:48):
They have a ball control passing game. The defense is young,
but he does a really good job of protecting the
defense by really squatting and holding onto the ball and
limiting the amount of possessions the opponent has. Coaching, and
so for all the X and o's and the tactical
stuff that we used to talk about with the schematic
stuff that we used to talk about with Sean McVay man,

(43:09):
I think you got to give him credit for being
one of the best I would say game managers in
terms of managing the game from the sideline to put
his team in a position to win games despite the
challenges that they may face on their roster.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
Let me ask you this. You played the game so
you would know, and I'm sure you've had You've been
on some teams that were affected by losses. And we
talked about patn Ardouzay, the coach University of Pittsburgh. You know,
they started seven to zero and they lost their last six.
The Rams basically were one and four. The Bengals were
very similar. Now they're eight and eight, you know, and
they talk about media talks about you know, the coach

(43:44):
lost the locker room players have given up. What is
it like and how tough is it for a coach
to kind of rally the troops when you are one
and four like Sean mcfay. How these guys at one
and four today give up on themselves that they say
we're going to quit, we have no chance. How does
that work inside? See the workings of a locker.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
Room, it's very difficult one.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
As part of the intake process, you hope that you
take the right guys coming in, meaning that when you're
bringing players onto your team, you hope they have enough
mental toughness to be.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
Able to endure some tough times.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
You dig into the background, you make sure they've had
to overcome and do things that aren't a bunch of
silver spooners who've never had to really kind of roll
their sleeves up and get dirty to earn whatever it
is that they've been given. The other thing that you
want to do is a coach, you've got to be
consistent your attitude, your personality can't change. You can't be
high like, look, we're happy, go lucky when we're winning.

Speaker 3 (44:38):
We're down in the dust when we're losing.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
You got to show up and be the same every day.
You have to hold the players accountable for the things
that they haven't done. You have to hold yourself and
your coaches accountable for those shortcomings. But you have to
be consistent and whatever the plan is, you got to
continue to sell the plan every day.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
Hey guys, we're getting close. We just need to do
these things that will turn it around.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
And if they believe in you, because as you've been
consistent and authentic in all those things, you can turn around.
But it takes a lot of toughness from the coach
and you have to have a tough minded squad to
turn things around in the middle of the season.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
Now, you said something early on and I caught this.
I think it's very important that coach can say whatever
he wants and people could roll their eyes. You need
a leader, and you mentioned the fact that Joe Burrow
did not let this team die. You get a guy
like that on your team. Joe Burrow basically carried this
Bengals team on his back. Not only on the field.
I gotta believe off the field as well. You know,
he is the desire to win. He wants to win

(45:33):
it. It hurts him so badly when they lose. You can
see it on the sidelines, and I think you get
a player like that on your team that certainly helps
the coaches' words of somewhat wisdom.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
It does, and you know, like you would like the
other thing. When it comes to building the team navigating
through a losing streak, your best players have to be
your hardest workers, and in a perfect world, your best
players are also your lead. So they're talented, they're tough,
they said positive examples, because they come to work and

(46:06):
they don't flinch. You hope that you have a locker
room full of those guys. And it takes like a
team that's really connected because in these moments when you're
losing a bunch of games. But what is tested is
not necessarily like the x's and o's. The part that's
tested is the connection that you have with your teammates
and the connection that the coach has with its team.

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And if you're connected, then you continue to believe in
one another, you continue to.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
Rally around one another. But if there are any fractures
in that relationship, it can't work.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
And so that's why people will tell you it's not
the most talented team that typically wins. The coaches that
win championships will tell you, man, our team was the
most connected. They really believe they bought into what we
were saying. They never blinked when things didn't go their way,
and they were able to kind of find.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
A way to get to the end.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
That's what it takes, and that's why it's really really
hard to turn things around in the middle of the season.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
You know, you wrote about this thing on NFL dot
com about the free agencies and big money and backing
up that brings truck. But before we get into that,
I want to tak up at some talented players and
talk about the bowl games. And they were like five
games yesterday. None of them really caught my attention. I
look at North Carolina because I followed them thanks to you,
and you know, I can't believe they lose to Connecticut.

(47:19):
But the other game that I really wanted to zero
in on was basically Colorado number one. I'm not too
thrilled about two teams in the same conference playing in
a bowl game. I just you know, they could have
played in the regular season. I don't go for that.
Well your take on that because Colorado played Brigham Young
yesterday in some bulg with the Valero Alamo Bowl yesterday

(47:42):
last night. I tuned it in because I like Colorado,
I like the On Sanders, and I wanted to see
how the Heisman Trophy win a Travis Hutter did. So
you know, to me your take on like two teams
in the same conference playing in a bowl game.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
I thought it was interesting, And look, it's a good
matchup considering you're ranting the heart of Big twelve country, right,
and so you have two teams that are gonna draw fans.
The proximity for both you get them there in terms
of the matchup was very, very compelling because both of
these teams were ranked at won a bunch of games,
and they had a little bit of contrasting styles.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
I liked it. I enjoyed it.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
Anyone who has not been exposed to BYU football, they
got an opportunity to see man the job the Koloni
Sataki does and building a physical football team. You think
about BYU and Lavelle that was in throwing it all
over the yard.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
No, this BYU team.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
They hit you in the mouth and Deon Sanders in
the Colorado Buffalo's felt.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
What it's like to deal with BYU.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
A lot of teams that are faced this BYU squad
will tell you the same way. Man, they are one
of the more physical teams that you will ever find.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
I tell I'm shocked. I mean it was something like
twenty to nothing. I think at halftime something like that.
They lose. Colorado loses thirty six to fourteam. But Travis Hunter,
the Heisman winner, I played both ways. You caught four
passes game one hundred and six yards and a touchdown.
That I mean, Colorado looked flat. They really did. I
don't know if because the end of the season, maybe
they're not happy they're not in the play. I don't

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know what the deal was, but they were certainly outclassed
by Brigham Young last night. I was shocked.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
Yeah, they were all classed. And sometimes they can be hard. Right.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
So when you're in the midst of the circuit, right
you've got the Heisman Trophy circus or Travis is doing
running all around the country dealing with Heisman stuff should do,
and those guys are doing it, can you keep your
team locked in? But it's not only that their levels
to becoming a legitimate title contender, and what the Colorado
Buffaloes have done, they went from being a poor team

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to a team that was competitive to a team that
is good. The next step, going from good to great
might be the hardest step, because good will always put
you around eight, maybe nine wins. Great teams get to ten, eleven,
twelve wins. To do that, it not only takes the talent,
but it takes the execution while managing the pressure pressure

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of the moment.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
The Alamo Bowl may not have been perceived to be a.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
Big Bowl, but what it was was another opportunity for
the Buffalo to face a really good squad. And anytime
you face a really good squad with really good coaching,
they can expose your flaws. And what BYU did? They
exposed the flaws that Colorado had. It showed the weaknesses
that they may still have upfront, and it showed that
they have to take their game up a notch when

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it comes to the physicality and toughness to be able
to compete with the heavyweights the teams that are in
the tournament. They can go to that level. Colorado's not
quite at that level.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
And I ask you this question because you know, I'm
a football guy. I like watching the games on TV.
I certainly went to the NFL over the college games yesterday,
and the only one that interested me was the Colorado game.
I don't know if I'm alone on that, I would
think ratings wise. You know, they put that on the
regular network on ABC, So maybe the people who run
the networks realize that with Deon Sanders and Colorado and
the Heisman Trophy winter, that may bring more eyeballs to

(50:55):
the TV set. But as the college Bowls situation, their
schedule is a college bowl season dead with the playoffs
right now. I mean, nothing really excited me is toy
in the bowl lineup except the Colorado game.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
It is different because it was all fell on one day.
To me, it was still exciting. I had an opportunity
to watch Army play Louisiana Tech in a bowl game.
Got a chance toe NC State and East Carolina play.
Anyone from North Carolina knows that's a bit of a
bit of rivalry in state. It has some value. Sarah
Cues finished.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
Off a great run under Fran Brown knocking off Washington State.
It has some value.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
It's a little different because the portal can really impact
the teams that show up and play. So the team
that you're getting in the bowl game is much different
than the one you saw in the regular season.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
There's still value in that.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
As much as we will focus on the playoffs and
the twelve teams that go there, you still want to
reward and I'm not a participation trophy, participation banner metal guy,
but you want to reward some teams for having really
good years Yukon, those guys that be legendary in the
Yukon program for winning nine games, because it really hasn't
been done often in their program. Some of those teams

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I would stay playing the way that they play knocking
off of Miami.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
You like seeing those.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
Little victories because everybody can't compete at a national title level,
but you certainly want to reward them for playing well
and exceeding expectations.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
I think the advantage of going to a bowl game
for a coaching standpoint is the fact that you have
additional weeks of practice, which makes it easier coming into
the following season. However, with the portal situation, I don't
know if that's a plus or not anymore, because you
make it an entire new roster coming in and even
though you're practicing with these guys, these guys may be

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gone so it used to be a pretty big advantage
that you could practice almost an additional month, and that
helps you getting into spring practice.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
It does, and the way that you.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
Kind of configure your calendar can make it where you
basically are playing football year round. Okay, so if you
have the bowl game that goes into the end of December,
you give them maybe six weeks to work in the
off seasons, so that'll take you to the middle of February,
early part of March.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
You start spring ball.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
You have four to six weeks, depending on how you
stretch that out. So then you go from March to April,
you give them off, they're done with school. In May,
they come back for the summer program, offseason workouts, and
then you're right back at it in August. There is
a way for you to continue to consistently improve your
team if you kind of set the calendar the right way.

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The bowl game preparations are a big part of getting
your team ready to play next season.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
Right, all right, let's talk about something that everybody loves
to talk about. Money, Money, Show me the money, you
throw it about the money? This week, talk about players
breaking the back of the NFL. The free agency class,
and I ask you, this, is it easier to build
a winner in the National Football League through free agency
or through the draft? You know, there's arguments on both sides.

(53:53):
To me, I want to prove a veteran that played
the game. Okay, it's so it costs me money, but
I know what I'm getting. Where a draft pick. Basically
it's a crapshoot. You don't know what he's gonna do.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
M I think for sustainable success, it has to be
a draft and developed program. It's gonna be cheaper, you're
gonna have an opportunity to really build your culture the
right way because you get them from the time they
step into the league and you're able to kind of
influence them the way that you want to within your culture.

Speaker 3 (54:25):
Free agency is necessary to fill.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
In the gaps on your roster, so you draft and
develop the core, you get free agents to fill.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
In the gaps, and then you continue to develop it
that way.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
As you're doing that, though, you're identifying the players that
you drafted and developed. You want to resign and keep
that nucleus together. It's hard to sustain it if you're
always bringing in new players from the outside, because they
don't necessarily buy into the culture, white or right. It
is much easier if you bring them in from day
one and teach them your belief system, your value system,

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those things. That's it takes a lot of patients to
do the draft and developed program, so ownership and everybody
has to be on board. Everyone loves what Dan Campbell
and the Lions have done, but remember the first year
and a half, first two years, they took a lot
of ills before they.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
Turned it around.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
Most owners, most teams don't have the patients to endure
a draft and developed program.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
Right, and you talk about some of the players that
the baby making some big time money, and number one
on your list was Sam Donald, the quarterback on the
Minnesota Vikings is twenty seven years of age and look
through fifteen games, you're right, seven year pro he's throwing
for over thirty seven hundred yrs, thirty two touchdowns, eleven
its had a tremendous year, surprise a lot of people.
Here's the question, can the Vikings win without him? And

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what happens to JJ McCarthy where they drafted as their
future quarterback, what happens to McCarthy, And obviously is it
a system where they could just plug in anybody and
then win, or they must have Donald behind center.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
Man, I think when you win the way that they
have started to win, I don't know if you want
to move off of that too quickly. As much as
we all get over draft picks and what they could be,
there's something about the bird in hand, the proven commodity.
Sam Donald's a proven commodity within that system. I don't
know if I'm the vikings if I want to move
quickly off of that. And yeah, we can bring in

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Daniel Jones who's on practice squad right now, and eventually
maybe he could do the same thing. But you already
know what Sam Donald can do. I think there's a
number that you want to exceed. But you explore bringing
Sam back if you can get him in a team
friendly deal. If he wants to go into open market,
which could be tough for him because remember, he's faulted
at a bunch of different places.

Speaker 3 (56:40):
Personally, he knows.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
What it's like to not be set up for success.
I don't know if he wants to venture in those
waters again after the toll that they put on him
mentally and physically to deal with all of the losing
and him being excited as a bus right.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
I mean, I think that they got to say to themselves, look,
we got something good here, we don't want to lose it.

Speaker 3 (56:59):
Do that.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
And speaking of something good, T Higgins yesterday really jacked
up the money value of himself yesterday because he had
three touchdowns and that big Bengal win. He's playing under
the franchise tag now. But the question I think for
T Higgins is not so much the money. I think
the injury factor. He seems to be banged up a lot.
It wasn't that way until this year. I don't know
what happened. Maybe just a lingering injury and maybe with

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a good rest and workout regime in the off season
he comes back stronger.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
I don't know, maybe, but give him credit. You know
you heard people talk about citing.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
His worry mentality and how he's battled through those things
to come back.

Speaker 3 (57:36):
He's a talented player.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
I'll say this, and I'm not a Bengals fan, you
certainly are there in the city. I think the Bengals
would be crazy to let both of those wide receivers
leave the building. I know it's cost prohibitive to have
two big money receivers, but then I look and I
see the Philadelphia egos have been able to do it.
You know, I think you have to rejigger some other stuff.

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The one thing that we do know, as long as
the Bengals have t Higgins and Jamar Chase, one side
of the ball.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
Is going to be great. The offense is great.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
And so I am less inclined to make two things
to remove a strength to try and help a weakness.
So now I got weaker spots. I have a great offense.
We can figure out how to manage the defense. Because
they could go into the postseason with the terrible defense
because the offense so good they didn't figure out what
the money is. I would not let Te Higgins and

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Jamar Chase get out the building.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
I'm with you right there. I tell you what though,
I not only should they not do it for the
sake of the team's success, I don't think they should
do it for the public interest. I mean, I think
the public will go crazy if they let one of
those guys go, because this is a team. Basically, I
would think if I'm Kansas City, I don't want to
play the Bengals in the first round of the playoffs.
You know, the Bengals is one of the few teams

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with Joe Burrow that has beaten Kansas City. I can
stay with them, and they should have been in this year.
So I think that this is a team that's somewhat
dangerous should they get it the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
And then you start looking at the teams that could
score off for them. So if they get off get
in the playoffs, they'll be number seven. That could be
the Buffalo Bills having a place to Cincinnati Bengals. A
couple of years ago, we saw the Cincinnati Bengals go
on the road and knock off the Buffalo Bills in Buffalo.
They're not the team that you want to face. And
the one thing that we know about Joe Burrow when
they get into the tournament and the record recess to

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zero and zero, they don't have a care in the world.
And to me, a fearless, swaggy Joe Burrow is not
the team that you want to face in the postseason. Yeah,
you don't want them in if you're at the Buffalo
Bills or any of those other teams that could get
the number two seed, no.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
Doubt about that. We'll leave it there. So I got
some big money coming up there and hopefully t Higgins
gets some of that money. He deserves it big, I mean,
strong hands, big guy, six ' four and he should
be getting about thirty forty mili next year. If not
in Cincinnati, he'll get it somewhere else, no doubt about that.
He's Bucky Brooks. Get him on ex at Bucket Brooks
at Swollen Dome? Who's at Mike Harmon joins us in

(59:58):
the third hour and from an FSR, I'll bet he
had eighty seven to seven ninety nine on Fox. That
translates to eighty seven to seven nine nine six sixty
three sixty nine. We got bottom barrel betting in this hour,
we got the Swollen Dome. Mike Harmon himself joins us
and our number three, so we'll stick with us. They're good,
but that defense is really struggling. That's next. It's scoreboard
watching time for this NFL team. We'll get to that

(01:00:20):
in just about a minute. He is Bucky Brooks. I'm
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after we get off the air. Now, let's get into
this NFL here. Let's get into some games, all right,
some games, and some of the games I wouldn't even
want to you couldn't pick me up in a limo
to watch. But the Raiders Saints, all right, Raiders Saints

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today both have been eliminated from the playoffs. Raiders maybe
could get a jump on things because Saints had that
young quarterback playing with Derek carrs he's not going to play,
he's got that bad hand. And the Saints could be
without Alvin Kamara as well, so could be a good
win for the Raiders. Will be four and twelve if
they win, Saints go to five and eleven. It's next year.

(01:01:28):
It's next year for both these teams. Correct, I mean,
no one, no one cares.

Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
It's funny though, I watched these games. And like in baseball,
when a team is eliminated, they got like four thousand
people of the game. NFL, they'll still get forty fifty thousand.

Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
Yeah, the people still show up.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
They'll still show up and watch because they love the
game and because there's so few games that you have
to take it in. These teams don't have anything to
play for, but there's a lot to coach for. Antonio
Peers is coaching for his job. He needs to string
together some wins to show ownership that he's still as
capable of raiding the ship in Vegas. For Darren Rizzy,
he's trying like heck to make it hard on the
Saints to move on from him. So, because of those

(01:02:07):
situations of circumstances, the hard coach is going to lead
some competitive play. It may not be pretty, but you
can see two teams play hard and then it comes
down to mistakes and manage them. And I just worry
with the same. Spencer Ratler, young quarterback who's been up
and down, kind of plays into the Raiders' hands.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
Yeah, no doubt about that. Okay, because the Titans against
you are Jaguars Jacks. At three and twelve, Titans three
and twelve, both teams out of the playoffs this year.
The Jags are the probably gonna run the football, the
take some pressure off the quarterback. The quarterbacks to be
Mac Jones today. Is that correct, Ma's gonna be quarterbacking,
So you got to run the football.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
Mac Jones quarterbacking. Yeah, they gott run the football. They
got try and run it. But this is a Tennessee
Titans defense that is, I would say better than the
stat line may appear. The thing that you have to
worry about when you're facing the Titans. You have Mason
Rudolphin started quarterback. As opposed to Will Levis, He's not
as likely to turn the ball over and so it
puts a lot of pressure on the Jaguars.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
To score points.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
Despite what Mac Jones has been, former first rounder, guy
who's been a Pro bowler, the offense hasn't scored a
lot of points when he's been at the helm. The
magic number in this game is twenty. The team didn't
get to twenty is going to win the game.

Speaker 3 (01:03:15):
Because this hard points are gonna be hard to come
by for both of these teams.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
You know, didn't the ownership of the Jags say that
this is his best team he's seen ever prior to
the season. I mean, what exactly I noticed? What happened?
You're close to the Jags. What happened? I mean, everybody's
going to be shaking their head that they're three and twelve. Right.

Speaker 3 (01:03:37):
Yeah, So here's what I'll tell you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
Just like the conversation we had, like how the coaches
turn around tough situations in.

Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
The middle of the year.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
We talked about Sean McVay and the Rams. We cited
some other teams that have been able to turn around well.
Going back to last season, the Jags lost five of
the last six games, and that hangover was with the
team heading into the regular season. First game of the year,
You're up on Miami. You're about to go up and
maybe blow the Dolphins out. Travis NTM fumbles a touchback,

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next play adr score Tyreek Hill. The mental toughness or
the fragile nature of the confidence of the team, and
I'll even say maybe some of the lack of direction
from in terms of the coaching staff, in terms of.

Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
Getting these guys on board. Showed up and repeated erarors
in the clutch. And it takes a.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
Tough minded team to be able to overcome those things.
Good guys play hard, but the resilience, the grittiness that
you need to go to the next level hasn't been there,
and as a result, this team is not being able
to win close games.

Speaker 3 (01:04:41):
Andy, I think they have nine to one.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
Score losses, games that they've lost by fewer than eight points.
That comes down to late game execution and your playmakers
making plays.

Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
There have been injuries, but there have been plays to
be made and they haven't done it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
And to me, some of that comes from a lack
of resilience and toughness that was originally exposed last season
heading into this year.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
Now you're close to this team and I'm going to
run something by you, and you're gonna think that out
of my mind. I would people love to talk, and
I think that there's some stories out there that I
think there are some reporters immediate people are afraid to
follow up on. Urban Meyer was let go in Jacksonville,
and certainly rightfully so. It was ugly. He stayed up

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there in Columbus in a bar after the game. You
know what's going on there. But don't you think there
are guys like urban Meyer who get canned from a
situation and they see the team really floundering. After they go,
they feel good about say, ha, I knew it. I
couldn't win. I mean, isn't that the case? Don't you
think they're a guy? I like last night, I'm watching
the Bengal game and the kid York missus a thirty

(01:05:45):
three yard field goal. He hits the left post. All right,
don't you think Eva McPherson on the sideline is kind
of like internally saying, ah, I would have made that.
I mean it looks sort of happy in a sense.
Am I sick by thinking that? Tell me.

Speaker 3 (01:06:01):
You might be a little sick.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
Look, you have to fight when you're on a team.
You have to fight against those emotions, right, you have
to really give yourself up to be a part of
the team.

Speaker 6 (01:06:11):
That's the emotions.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
Emotions are certainly Yeah, the emotions are certainly there. And
but you don't want to carry all the business. But yes,
there are people that enjoy other people's misery. That's why
we have the outrage that we see on X and
and all those things. Yeah, some of them, Yeah you're
okay with like someone that has jilted you having some uh,

(01:06:37):
lacking success and not being able to win.

Speaker 3 (01:06:39):
Yeah, some heartache. You're okay with that?

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
All right?

Speaker 3 (01:06:41):
So we do it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
The urban Meyer's happy now here. You got rid of me.
I couldn't win, but no one else could win there
either in Jacksonville. And that's his attitude. Maybe I'm wrong,
Maybe it's a kid.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
Yeah he did. Yeah, so I'm sure. I'm sure he is,
uh probably reveling in it a little.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
Bit, big god like you. Okay, cowboys at the Eagles
take this is a decent one. Okay, Dallas isn't gonna
make the players double see. Is macarthy going to be back?
What do you think? I think he's back.

Speaker 3 (01:07:11):
Yeah, I think he's back just because of what we
talked about.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
This team was left for dead, they were out of it,
but he continued to get the team to play hard.
That is a testament to his coaching and man coaching
is not really revealed when things are going well, let's win.
Tough times. How do you handle the tough times? How
do you navigate those moments? How do you get your
team up and playing with injuries? In those things? Mike
McCarthy's done a really good job. Lost his quarterback, but
they kept plugging along. They won't make the playoffs, but

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the fight that we've seen from the Cowboys. Never really
fancied the Cowboys as a blue college squad, but Mike
McCarthy's done a really good job of getting them to
embrace that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
Yeah, we go out of the Eagles, they're gonna win
or a commander's loss, that happens, they lock up the
NFC East title and to get at least a number
two seed. As far as the quarterback situation for Eagles today,
Jalen hurts he's in a concussion protocol. Is he going
to play or is Kenny Pikett gonna play today? What happens?
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
Kenny Pigtt is gonna play, Like all the reports, all
the reports are saying or leaning towards Kenny Pickett being
the starting quarterback. That's a that's a big deal for
the Philadelphia Eagles. Many they're scuffling and there you know
this team is already already like very temperamental, right like
they up and down and emotional and those things. You
don't know how a losing streak could impact them. They

(01:08:24):
put a stinker up today with Kenny Beak head quarterback,
you just you know, you just don't like to see
this team. You feel like they can unravel at any moment,
So they need to put one together today.

Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
They can't.

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
They can't lose two in a row. Man, You would
hate to go into the tournament without any momentum.

Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
Right, They're twelve and three, and I think that Sai
Kwon Buckleys is have a big game today but goes
to the Dallas run defensive lock thereof So I think
it's gonna be all Saquon Buckley, especially Kenny pick An,
understand there. All he's gonna do is shove the ball
in sak One's belly.

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
Thirty kind the recipe, that's the recipe for success.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
Right, you're the offensive courter for the Eagles. I mean
you don't have to stay up to one in the
morning and sleep in the office. You know what's going on.
You're my guy, say Kwan. You know I got a
bodyguard with you all week long, so nothing happens to you.
I don't want you slipping or sliding. I have someone
walking into the shower. I don't want you slipping on
a shower or a piece of soap. I mean, you're
my guy. I need you and stay healthy. And once

(01:09:21):
you're healthy, we're in good shape. That's it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
I mean, it is it. It's going to continue to
be it like that's just kind of a part of.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
The deal, right all right, Now, here's here's the storyline.
The storyline for this game's crazy. You got the Jets
and they're out of it. Okay, they're four and eleven
at the Buffalo Bill's twelve and three. You know, once
upon a time this was a pretty good series, but
not now. You talk about former Jets coach, some guys
that really get revel in this kind of stuff. Eric Mangini,
he's been really out there right now talking about the

(01:09:51):
quarterback situation Aaron Rodgers on the Jets right now, and
he says that Rogers has been doing everything he can
to get cut by the ownership of the Jets, Woodie Johnson.
It's unbelievable, maybe, he says, maybe by the owner's teenage son.
Despite maybe maybe he even says he wants to go
back to Green Bay next year. What's the deal with

(01:10:11):
Aaron Rodgers? I mean, honestly, I think this guy's out
of his mind. I really do.

Speaker 3 (01:10:17):
Yeah, I'm with you. I think he's a little kooky
and remains a little different. He strikes me as guy.
He strikes me as a guy is never really happy
or satisfied. And this certainly hasn't turned out the way
that he wanted it to. I'm sure he thought that
he would go to New York and pull off of
Tom Brady like a storybook ending, and it hasn't happened.

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
And some of the things that have been exposed about
him leadership and how he gets along with in the
locker room and those things certainly will impact his legacy.
And I think the Jets have The Jets have to
move on because the Jets have to They have to
establish their own culture independent from Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 3 (01:10:57):
It can't be Aaron Rodgers' team and locker room and
all that other stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
Whoever the new general manager and head coach, they have
to establish how they're going to go about it, how
they're gonna play, and they got to stick to it.
And I think the way that you do it, the
easiest way is to get Aaron Rodgers about it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
Here, you get him out. I'll say this much. If
you look at his stats, they're somewhat impressive. He's thrown
for thirty five hundred plus yards, twenty four touchdowns, eight
picks this year, his passer rings like ninety point eight,
and they still have a losing year. The four and eleven. Defensively,
I don't think they lived up to what people thought
they would be defensively. And he was with Eric Mangini

(01:11:32):
was with Colin Coward earlier this week, and Eric Mangini
says that Aaron Rodgers is doing everything in his power
to get cut from the Jets. It amazes me. And look,
you talk about Aaron Rodgers. He got everything he wanted.
He got the coach fired. And I think anytime you
fire a coach in mid season, you might as well
say the season's over. So I mean, if you're going

(01:11:52):
to fire the coach, fire him in July, don't fire
him after five games. So he got the coach fired,
he got his money, he didn't win, and he got
every body he wanted to play, his buddies back in
New York to play with him, and he still can't win.
He got everything he wanted.

Speaker 3 (01:12:07):
He did, he got exactly what he wanted and it
still didn't work out. That's why you can't run it
back with him.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
They did everything, man, They gave him his play call,
or they brought some of his favorite people over Elizar
Devanta Adams, and they every won.

Speaker 3 (01:12:19):
They want more with Zach Wilson. If that tells you anything, you.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
Gotta move on, man, You got to move on, find
somebody else, find a new quarterback and just and just
get it going that way.

Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
It really is. And you know what, think about this,
what would they be with Sam Donald if Sam Donald
was still there?

Speaker 2 (01:12:38):
Well, it depends, man, because coaching has a lot to
do with it. But yeah, you can see that maybe
maybe Sam Donald wasn't as bad as he was pegged
out to be amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
And they'll they'll be changing coaches. I mean, didn't they
say that? Was it Rabel? Rabel wants to look suggest
just somebody was looking for the judge for another way
saw that. But they'll be changing coaches again. If there's
no doubt in my mind they got to get a
new coach. It's crazy, it really is.

Speaker 6 (01:13:05):
It's a big date.

Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
They absolutely have to get another coach.

Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
It's crazy, it really is. And speaking of getting a
new coach, I think I think Gray Bull is going
to be gone and Brian Daboll is going to be
gone in New York with the Giant. Giants are two
and thirteen. They host the Colts today. Colts are seven
and eight. It looks like Drew Locke is going to
be playing quarterback again. The Colts their playoff chances are there,
but they're very slim. They got the Jonathan Taylor run

(01:13:30):
running back. He rushed for two hundred eighteen yards and
three touchdowns last Weekainst. Tennessee. So I guess that's the
pattern to win. Give them both the Jonathan Taylor. But
right now at the Giants, I mean, you got to
believe that two teams in one city that are so bad.
I mean, and look again, you could trace everything with
the Giants. Failure is letting Sakuon Barkley go. And I

(01:13:53):
remember looking at Hard Knocks, the ownership of John Marrow
wanted to keep them. It was a general matter. Did
you let him go? John Mara, the president and owner
of the Giants, wanted sae Quon Barker to stay in
New York.

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
Amaze, Yeah he did, and they decided to go the
other way. Joe Shane, the general manager, didn't want to
stay the course. I felt like they could find a
replacement on the streets and it hasn't worked out, and
so now they have to look at Saquan have an
MVP caliber season with their rival craziness.

Speaker 3 (01:14:26):
That's what that is. Crazy, it really is. It didn't
work out.

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
I don't get it. I really don't. All right, let's
let's get one more in here at the Panthers four
and eleven at the Tampa Bay Bucks right now. And
Carolina is playing really good of late, they really are.
They knocked the Arizona Cardinals out of the playoffs last week,
and today they can knock the Bucks out of the playoffs.
Tampa needs a win and a Falcon's loss for the
NFC South lead, and the Falcons basically playing tonight at Washington,

(01:14:53):
so we'll see what happens there. Carolina has the league
worst rushing defense, so the Bucks can run with Shod
Light and Bucky Irving. That's basically the game plan, I
would think. But certainly the Panthers are playing with house money.
They don't care. They'd love to be the spoiler a
game for the second week in a row.

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
Yeah, when you're playing with house money, man, you can
just do whatever. And so those games to me are
the scariest games when you're playing with house money like
that and you're doing it, and so you just got to
be on alert. You got to make sure that you execute,
don't give them a reason to hang in it, continue
to play the way that you play.

Speaker 3 (01:15:29):
But this is a very, very scary game for him.

Speaker 1 (01:15:31):
No doubt about that. Okay, we move on because now
it's my game because I'm going to begin to own
you in this game. Really, and you know, I hate
to say it. I'm not good in a lot of things,
but I think that I could, you know, hold my
own in this game with you, and I have over
the last several weeks. I know you're a little nervous.
You won't admit it, you don't show it. You're pretty
good about that. You're probably a pretty good poker player

(01:15:51):
because you don't show it. But I know internally, I
know internally you're nervous. You really are. The race is
closer in this game than in most of the divisions
and the NFL bottom barrel betting. It's freaking next bottom
barrel betting coming right up about ten minutes now before
the top of the hour. He's Bucket Brooks. I'm Andy Furman,
and we are live from the ti rack dot Com studios.

(01:16:12):
We got a gate to play, so let's play. There's
only one man on God's Green Earth that could run
this show, that could run this game, that could get
it done, and his name is Shae J Shay Harry Ins.
And let's get it done.

Speaker 6 (01:16:27):
What is up, guys?

Speaker 7 (01:16:28):
How you doing? Happy Holidays? Kwan'sa Hanukkah, Christmas, Saint Patrick's Day,
St Patrick's Day, all of them, Happy holidays.

Speaker 6 (01:16:37):
Getting sick of saying you.

Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
Sound excited, Come on, let me smell a.

Speaker 7 (01:16:41):
Long week guys, but let's let's let's start off with
some exciting stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:16:46):
Andy, you get the win? And why did you get
the win?

Speaker 3 (01:16:49):
You ask?

Speaker 1 (01:16:50):
It doesn't. It does make a difference. It's here.

Speaker 6 (01:16:52):
Well, this this one, you're gonna care.

Speaker 3 (01:16:54):
Well.

Speaker 7 (01:16:55):
Remember how last week we were talking about Magnus Carlson,
the chess legend, and there was a bet where you
would choose either for him to win or lose the
Men's Rappid Open. Well, he lost, unfortunately. Well in the
way he lost is pretty funny. He actually was kicked
out or he left the tournament altogether because he refused.

Speaker 6 (01:17:15):
To change out of the jeans he was saw that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
Yeah, you see that you had a clothing the situation. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:17:21):
According to the International Chess Federation, Carlson, who's won five
World rappid in seven World Blitz titles in the last
ten years, withdrew from the World Blitz Championship, which follows
this tournament, and said in a statement that Carlson breached
the tournament's dress code by wearing jeans. Then the client
to change his clothes after the Chief arbiter requested him
and issued a fine of two hundred dollars.

Speaker 6 (01:17:43):
Kind of guy, Matt Brook some fun little stuff.

Speaker 7 (01:17:47):
So I had Magnus, had you had Magnus to win
the whole tournament?

Speaker 6 (01:17:53):
Okay, which honestly I thought was a good bet.

Speaker 3 (01:17:56):
But he wore jeans because of the gens jeans.

Speaker 6 (01:18:00):
I guess he's because he didn't win. Where did we stand?

Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
Now? I'm breathing down his back there.

Speaker 6 (01:18:03):
You're you're three away.

Speaker 7 (01:18:05):
It's thirty six to thirty nine and we can only
probably get like three in right here, So let's.

Speaker 1 (01:18:08):
Be quick, oh, okay.

Speaker 7 (01:18:10):
Kazuto Eoka and Fernando Daniel Martinez meet in the WBA
and IBF Super Flightweight Unification boxing match, where Fernando is
looking to defend the wa WBA Super Flight title on
New Year's Eve. Fernando is minus two eighty five while
Kuzuto is plus two to ten. Andy would start with you, Fernando, Fernando,

(01:18:33):
Sweet Bucky.

Speaker 6 (01:18:34):
Let's go to you?

Speaker 3 (01:18:36):
Okay, Well, I guess I'd go Cauto.

Speaker 6 (01:18:38):
You're excited to say that one.

Speaker 7 (01:18:41):
In the World Junior Hockey Championship, the USA Under twenty
team is taking on the Canadian under twenty team New
Year's Eve at four thirty pm Pacific Standard time. USA
is plus one thirty five while Canada is minus one
sixty five.

Speaker 3 (01:18:54):
Bucky, Oh gets a USA. Gotta be patriotic?

Speaker 1 (01:18:58):
Wis my wife is Canadian?

Speaker 2 (01:19:01):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:19:01):
Canada?

Speaker 3 (01:19:04):
Canada?

Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
She's got a green card? You know?

Speaker 3 (01:19:07):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (01:19:07):
Does that means you're gonna be deported.

Speaker 1 (01:19:08):
At any moment? Any moment.

Speaker 6 (01:19:14):
You're going Canada?

Speaker 3 (01:19:15):
I guess.

Speaker 7 (01:19:15):
In the PC World Championship, it's a darts competition, the
one that starts from December and then ends in January.
Ricky Evans is taking on Robert Owens December twenty ninth,
eleven to fifteen am Pacific Standard time. Ricky Evans is
minus one forty five O Robert Owen is plus one twenty.

Speaker 6 (01:19:33):
Andy, I'll start with you.

Speaker 1 (01:19:36):
I'm gonna take the big O Robert Owens, the big.

Speaker 3 (01:19:39):
O Bucky where I get to go opposite. I can't
take big O.

Speaker 6 (01:19:44):
Opposite and then real quick.

Speaker 7 (01:19:45):
In the Egyptian Premier League, zed FC is taking on
Petro Jet December thirtieth. Z FC is minus one eleven
and Petro jettis plus two ninety. Throw it out, Andy,
j JAD Bucky Zip.

Speaker 1 (01:20:00):
Sweet, there we go

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