On today’s episode, Jason discusses Notre Dame’s thrilling victory over Penn State in the College Football Playoff semifinal, how that brutal late-game interception by Drew Allar may have impacted his NFL Draft stock and how much blame James Franklin deserves for the Nittany Lions’ second-half collapse. Plus, Right Angle Sports’ Adam Chernoff swings by to preview the upcoming NFL Wild Card weekend playoff slate from a wagering perspective.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
What is up Straight Fire FAMP. It's me Jason McIntyre,
Straight Fire for Friday, January tenth, and we've got a
great podcast for you heading into the weekend. My main
man Adam Chernoff Right Angle Sports, Big Sports Gambler, Big
NFL Gambler. He drops by, we break down all of
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the games. Should be a phenomenal weekend and fortunately we
got it started with Notre Dame Penn State last night.
Whoo that was a game. Oh my gosh. You know
that Adam Turnoff interview is lengthy, but I could probably
do thirty minutes, no problem on Notre Dame Penn State.
Just an unbelievable college football game. Now listen. It wasn't
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super high level football if you watch a quarterback play
in that the quarterback play was actually quite bad. That
being said, the game itself was tremendous because it was
close throughout. Its stunk that the under did not hit.
The score was ten ten heading into the fourth the
total was forty six. Okay a total, so you needed
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twenty seven points in the fourth quarter to top the over,
and you get thirty one in just a thrilling, ugly
at times. Fourth quarter, the kid Jeter delivers in the
clutch for Notre Dame and he will never buy a
drink in South Bend for the rest of his life.
Just a tremendous football game all around. I had the
fortune I've been shaken down cowhurt to get a hangout.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
This is like I've said, this is a big year
for me, for him, for the show. I don't know
what the future holds. And it was let's just say
it was a good hang and I'm not gonna some
of the There was a bunch of other people there, but
there was a pretty prominent college football person there. I
won't get into the person's name because I didn't ask
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if I could mention them. But you know, we're having
fun watching the game, and I'm all in on Notre Dame,
and it felt like they got totally outclassed in the
first half. They're down ten to nothing. Late first half,
Riley Leonard, who just wasn't playing good, takes a brutal hit.
He gets up and is staggering. The ref looks right
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in his eyes from like point blank. Age waves his
hands and it's like nop, you gotta go to the sideline. Sorry, dude.
So at this point I'm like, oh man, Notre Dame
is cooked down ten nothing and they got to go
to the backup, someone named Steve and Jelly and he
comes in and unbelievably, he leads him down the field
for points. And I was pretty stunned at that. Now, Listen,
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we talked about it last time. Georgia Notre Dame. The
middle eight decided the game. The final four minutes of
the first half, first four minutes of the second, Notre
Dame basically goes from down ten nothing to get the
field goal into the first half, get the opening kick
Riley Leonard's back drive down, touchdown, and it's ten ten
and they have all the momentum in the world. And
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at that point it felt like, Okay, Notre Dame's in
great shape. They've got this the superstar Abdul Carter. Oh
my gosh, how good is that guy? Listen. I had
him top fifteen in my mock draft. He looks like
a top five pick. Now he wears Micah Parsons's number,
and the box score has him for one sack, one
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tackle for loss. That seems way way low. I'm sure
those numbers will be readjusted. That's a box four on
ESPN dot com. I felt like Carter was in the
backfield every down. He must have been held three or
four times. I didn't see. I don't know if there
was one flag for holding, which is crazy. The refs
didn't call anything on the offensive side, but kept calling
defensive penalties, which killed me in the fourth quarter, and
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ultimately it just people want to jump online after this
game last night and be like, oh, oh my gosh,
Brian Kelly's such an idiot. He made all these comments
and now he left it. Notre Dames in the title game,
like Brian Kelly's out here catching trays because Notre Dame
made the title game and listen. I like Marcus Freeman
a lot. I pumped him up as a Bears option,
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and within like three days Notre Dame re ups him
and gives him a new deal. And I like Freeman
as much as the next habit. I didn't think Marcus
Freeman won this game for Notre Dame. He didn't like
do anything special. They were getting body bagged in the
first half. I can't wait to hear what the halftime
speech was because they were awesome in the second half,
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But this game essentially came down to one play. It
was nip and tuck the whole way. Listen. The turnovers
were brutal, the two inner pass interference flags on Penn State.
I was irate at the O'm sorry a Notre Dame
after they had the interceptions against Penn State. I was
irate at those. But this came down to one pass
late in the game by Drew Aller, And I don't
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know who was pushing this. Hey, he could be the
third quarterback taken. He looked good against Poise I don't
know where that narrative came from. Did he look against
the Boise State Broncos. Yeah, for half he looked sharp
as hell. First two drives specifically, he was incredible. But
I think this is closer to the real Drew Aller
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because this is up against really good competition, and you know,
we're inside a minute to play in the game, likely
headed for overtime, and he makes this decision to throw
across his body under pressure and it's picked off, and
it's like, woww you felt so bad for the kid.
And then he takes his helmet off on the sideline
and he looks so young. Maybe I'm just getting old,
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but he looked like a fifteen year old kid, you know,
And I just felt so bad for the guy. He
just made an awful decision. And listen, he made awful
decisions all night. The first ball in the end zone
they called a defensive holding, was like, that wasn't even
a jump ball. That was just I mean, it was
so bad. It was intercepted so easily. And then the
one in the second half looking for Warren was so
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criminally underthrown that the Warren had zero chance at it
and the second defender comes over and picks it off.
I mean, aller just wasn't good. But the game came
down to that play and then Notre Dame you know,
gets the ball a crucial third down Riley Leonard quick
dump off. Here's an insane stat. I tweeted about this.
In the first half, or maybe it was the third quarter.
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Notre Dame could not stop Warren, who's a stud, but
they did shut down the Penn state receivers Penn state
wide receivers. Are you ready for this? Zero catches in
the football game. How do you play sixty minutes? You
throw twenty three passes? You run I don't know, sixty
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some odd plays and not one ball is caught by
a wide receiver. That's mystifying. Now you'd have to watch
the tape again to see if that's a James Franklin
scheme thing. I honestly thought the Penn State offensive game
plan was money in the first half. Oh my gosh,
they look good. I mean, you know, Aller, but the
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run game they was for two hundred yards in the game.
Singleton looks good, Allen looks good, and of course Warren
is a warrior man. That guy's what a monster. I
liked some of the direct snap stuff they were mixing
it up, and they notre Dame was a little off balance.
I thought Penn State had a good game plan. So
James Franklin of course falls to one in fifteen against
top five opponents, and he's gonna get crushed and it
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was the time to replace him. Again. I don't think
this loss is on James Franklin. Guys. Again, we're talking
about one bad pick by Drew Aller at the end
of the game that cost Penn State. Otherwise it just
goes to overtime. Who knows what happens. This was literally
a coin flip game. Notre Dame led for four minutes
the entire game. That's it, four minutes. It was just
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an incredible football game, and it wasn't a high level
football game. It was just incredible drama and theater. It
was exciting. Jaden Greathouse with a who has an unbelievable
cool name. He had one of the moves of the
year in college football. At the line of scrimmage. You know,
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slow feet don't eat well. Great House hits the cornerback
with one of these shake moves that you see like
Jamar Chase justin Jefferson doing in the offseason. You're like, oh,
I can do that. I can get on a ladder
and do some of that fun stuff. Great Hoouse hits
the kid with it. He straight up falls down and
then great House is wide open for the fifty four
yard touchdown. That was an awesome play. But other than that,
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like there weren't a lot of big plays in this
that was the only play over thirty seven yards in
the entire game. Notre Dame could not really run the
football forty two carries for a buck sixteen. I mean,
Penn State played a really good game. They ultimately this
comes down to the Alayer interception. Now Notre Dame on
third down eleven of seventeen. That very impressive. But overall,
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I thought this was a great game. I greatly enjoyed it.
Notre Dame advances to face the winner of Texas Ohio State.
We won't do a best bet because so I'll just
talk about it here. Obviously lost on the under in
Notre Dame Penn State, excuse me, and I did hit
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the Warren prop. I hit Notre Dame. And what else
do we have here? Okay, so here's what's open. I
have a teaser. I teased Penn State up to eight
and Ohio State down to zero, and I also have
a teaser both ways. Mind you, Penn State up to eight,
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Texas to plus twelve and a half. Now, that was
kind of a dumb teaser. It only goes through the seven.
It doesn't go through three. What's the point of teasing
through ten? Blah blah blah. I do think there is
a world where there's a shootout element here and Texas
is able to cover twelve and a half. But there's
also a world where Texas just absolutely gets smoked in
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this game. So I'm on Ohio State minus six. I'm
on the over fifty three and then the two teasers.
I'll look at props and if I see anything, I'll
put it on IG. But we're gonna break down all
the NFL now with Adam Chernoff from Right Angle Sports.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
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listen live. You know a guy, Jason likes to think
he knows everything when it comes to sports.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
I know what sports fans wants.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
But for everything he doesn't. He knows a guy who does.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Let's just say I know a guy who knows the
guy who knows another guy. All right, let's welcome into
straight fire. Adam Chernoff. You know him, Right Angle Sports,
Canadian guy, big NFL gambler he is. I don't know
if he's still doing the victory lap over the Panthers
four and a half over win total, just an awesome hit, Adam.
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How you doing on.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Man, I'm doing well. It's not the full victory lap
because there was some bleed over to the five and
a half as well, which I think kind of sits
in between, but the four and a halfs I mean
last sak you want to talk about sweating the bet
to the final drive of the season, that was it.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yeah, unbelievable stuff. Well we got we got a good
wildcard round here. I am curious overall on the season,
we saw favorites take off at a just a ridiculous clip.
I think I saw stat favorites straight up were like
twenty seven in one, favorites of six or more, whatever
the number was. But basically favorites were just hitting at
an alarming rate, and the books got crushed. I'm sure
you saw some of these press releases. Well we lost
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so much to the public. Oh, cry for them, right, Adam.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Yeah, the interesting thing about those stories is there's always tomorrow,
and the sportsbooks seem to always be open tomorrow as well,
as bad as it's been, as terrible, and as much
as people have been winning, they're always open. Yeah, favorites,
historical run down the stretch. We were fortunate to navigate
through November and December pretty well with the service and
with the bets, but yeah, historic run, and it just seemed, honestly,
(11:58):
like so many these late games you watch as much
NFL as anybody in are betting all the time as well,
Like you know those games where you're expecting that last
minute drive or like the underdog who's getting a touchdown
or more, and it's like, Okay, here comes the drive.
Like honestly, for the last six or seven weeks, every
time that seemed like it was supposed to happen, it
was like, oh, here's the favorite with the pick six
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and they win by twenty and it just all of
these end games down the stretch have been really one
sided to the fairs.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Is that do you think just a luck of you know,
coin flip action or is there something to the bottom
of the league is really really rotten. I mean, we
saw a lot of bad football, a lot of there's
like six or seven teams that were just basically unbackable.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
I think it's yeah, I think it's a bit of both.
I think there's some luck in it. But also this
year there were three teams at the bottom of ratings
that were worse than any team finished the season last
year and the season prior so, like last year, Carolina
was a little bit more than a touchdown worse than
an average team. And then two years ago, remember the
Houston Texans. They were in that same category like this year,
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the Giants were incredibly bad. The Saints finished the season
incredibly bad as well, So we've seen a lot of
really bad football too, So it's a combo of both.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
And Titans I think two and fifteen against the spread,
which is like a.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Prow down there as well. Yeah, they were as bad
of a season as any teams ever had. Ats.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah, that's crazy, and I like Callahan as a coach.
I just they don't have a quarterback. But all right,
let's get to the good teams, the playoff teams. Is
there any game that as soon as they hit the
board you and the right angle team were like, hey,
we got to get this before it moves, And it
was like the first release or bed or however you
want to phrase it.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
No, because we had a lot of disagreement and there
was a lot of divided opinions internally, and I'll be honest,
we were waiting if the Rams would have hosted Washington
the seating flipped late. That would have been as big
of a bet as we probably would have made all
season on the Rams. Like I was really circling that
one and I had it in the same category as
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the Bills a few weeks ago going up against Detroit,
which was the big and strongest stance of the season,
But that would have been there, so that didn't come through.
We didn't get it. The other one that we were
really looking at was the Chargers, and it was either
against the Texans or perhaps if they were going on
the road into Baltimore. We really like that spot. But
I think the market has actually gone too far in
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that game and it was too big of a correction.
So internally we're pretty split on that one too. Now,
some things have come up during the week that have
been enticing, but it was surprising how at the moment
of open it was a lot more disagreement than it
was agreement.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
So does that whole fade Washington still apply to Tampa
versus Washington.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
A little bit? Do we want to get into that game?
We saving it for later. How do we want to approach?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
I mean, I'll let you go wherever wherever the winds
take you, if you will, But sure, I don't know.
I mean I don't think that's the best game you
know to Rematchine, let me get one more macro thing
out of the way first, Okay, Adam, you know this
gambling industry now is just everybody's trying to latch on
and get money, whether it's walking bets with your boobs
bouncing around or whatever it is. Okay, We're at a stage,
(15:05):
it feels like, where people are just grasping any trend
numbers and being like, eric's a trend. You gotta hey,
you gotta bet this trend. And I just see so
many trends wild card weekend. I'm like, guys, these these
trend betters, they got their teeth kicked in all season
because they're trends. They're not predictive, as you've said many
a times, And like, let's start with the obvious one,
first time quarterbacks in the playoffs. Facing a quarterback who's
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been in the playoffs is like thirty percent. You gotta
bet that trend. There's a few of those this week,
including Sam Darnold and bow Nix. But like, how do
you handle when you hear trends and your team do
you guys are just like, oh, that's nice, thanks, moving on.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Well, let me ask you first. You mentioned walking bets.
Can I trademark sitting bets? Can I do that? Is
that doable?
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Or I don't know if.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
There's a big market for that, but go for it. Yeah,
it's you don't think it'll land the same, I not quite.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
To your quarterback point nineteen and thirty eight is the
specifics for that staff ats. So it hasn't been good.
I think a lot of it's priced in one because
it's known so much. But also when we get to
the playoffs, home field advantage is magnified a little bit too.
And so whether that's reflective of that or not, Like
you think about the home teams and the increased home
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field advantage, perhaps taking advantage of those quarterbacks starting on
the road in their debut, that might all kind of
encompass everything that comes with that as well. So stuff
like that that is mentioned so often and the so public,
especially in the playoffs where there's only six games, it's
really hard to say like that's full justification for making
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a bet because everybody knows it and the market certainly
knows it too.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
The thing you do that I like a lot is,
for instance, X defense plays man to man coverage at
the highest rate. Take the Denver Broncos, one of the
biggest man defenses. Well, Josh Allen with his legs is
going to eat up man defense. Is Patrick Tartan turns
his back to chase Amari Cooper down the field, Well,
(17:01):
guess what, that's a huge lane for Josh Allen. I
looked at his rushing prop. I think I saw forty
two and a half. That's a ridiculous number for a
quarterback in a playoff game. But is that the kind
of thing that's baked in or no?
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Yeah, I mean his average closer in the season has
been in the low thirties, so you're seeing the premium
put on it. Like you mentioned, the Broncos a top
five defense for man usage, and Josh Allen when he's
facing man coverage scrambles ten percent of dropbacks, so his
scramble rate is up about four and a half percent
versus zone to one of the highest rates in the league.
So again with playoffs, obviously the MVP of the season.
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Finding something that is not known in a prop like
that that is very obvious, It really hard to get around. Now,
he's certainly going to run a lot against the Denver Broncos,
but the Broncos know that too obviously coming into the game.
So there's a lot of matchup stuff like that that
is hard to maybe find the full edge on, especially
in the prop market. Two on marquee players.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
For a few weeks now, I've been saying, boy Bill's Broncos.
I hope that happens. I will put the mortgage on it.
I thought it would be similar mortgage well when Mac
Jones was facing Buffalo in that playoff game. The only
luck that Peyton and Nick's got here is that it's
like a one pm kickoff, right, so it's not like
the nighttime juiced up stadium, which is what the Steelers
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will be going into in Baltimore. But I do wonder
did Denver catch a break there? This number has been
pinging around. I don't know what people are seeing on
Denver here.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Well, the Broncos have a very specific path in this game,
and that is that they have a very good offensive line.
They have a loaded interior offensive line, and the biggest
weakness of the Bills is the spine of the defense.
So if the Broncos can come into this game and
they can commit to the ground game early and they
can be effective with it, and they can open up
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play action, what we've seen the Bill struggle with is
when they have to over commit guys to the run game.
It really puts some of these corners on a bit
of an island. And I think Broncos are going to
be able to have success off of play action if
they can really get the run game going. So I
think that's priority number one for them. And if they
can do that, the Bills. I mean, remember the Ravens
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game and how one sided that was. I'm not putting
the Broncos run game on the Ravens level by any means,
but that's a perfect example of the big weakness that
the Bills have. So the Broncos are not dead in
this game at all. I think they have a path
for success on offense. But to me, it's the other
side contributing here. I think this game is going to
be a shootout, and I'm looking at forty seven. I
think that is huh, it's too short of a total
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for sure.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Well wait, wait, wait a minute, I'm thinking back. Do
you remember when mix In and Burrow went in there
and they won handily. He was like twenty seven to ten,
ran the ball all over Buffalo. My only counter is, Okay,
Buffalo's got a really good secondary, good in coverage, strong safeties,
wouldn't Buffalo just consider saying, hey, you know what, We're
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going to stack the box and dare bon Nicks to
freaking beat us.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
I think Bone has an opportunity to bid them if
they can complate that ground game. The Bill's defense is
very aggressive, and it's very attacking, and it's free flowing,
and it's great when they're playing with the lead and
they can play downhill. But when this defense is challenged
in a neutral game and that's a close game, I
think it's far worse than it looks. And I mean
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visually on screen and during the games, you can see
this defensive lineup front really getting pushed around in the interior.
And I mean Cincinnati in many ways was daring bow
Nicks to beat them, and we saw some amazing deep
throats that he was able to complete in that game
when playing from behind as well. So there's opportunities here
for Denver to move the ball certainly.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Okay, I take that back. The Bill's safeties are not great.
It's the corners. Benford's been excellent, Johnson awesome in the slot,
but the safety's Hamlin has not been great. Rap is
a bit of a drop off. Now, now you got
me feeling a little nervous about my Bill's Bill's bet.
How's this one? This was my biggest bet so far
of Wildcard.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Well, hold on, you talk about the Bills for a sect,
because I wouldn't be nervous in that regard because you
have Josh Allen. I mean, this is going to be
such a Josh Allen like trademark game where he can
drop back, use his legs as we talked about, but
his ability to take on linebackers, and how great Joe
Brady is at scheming some of these running backs open
out of the backfield, and some of these rub routes
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with receivers like Shakir in this quick passing game that's
there all day against this Broncos defense. So I'm not
trying to advocate that the Broncos are going to go
in and pull the upset. This Bill's offense has just
as big, if not a much bigger matchup advantage on offense.
I just think both teams have success moving to football,
so I wouldn't be scared about your bet.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
So well, here's the actual bet. Bill's money line, Raven's
money line, Eagles money line. Three teams playing at home.
Two teams over a touchdown favorite. There's some concern with
the hurts concussion, but overall I'm not as bullish on
the Packers as I once was. That to me is
kind of a safe bet. Those three teams on the
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money line. Now, I'm sure you're like, Jason, come on
money through three team money line, give me a break.
But it pays out, you know, a thousand wins, you
like what eleven hundred probably on that. Where are you
on like a three team parlay this weekend?
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Like you bring it? My default response should be that
that's a bad decision to make, Okay, But if I'm
being honest, like it's it's hard to see an upset
happening in those three games.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Specifically, I think it a bad decision. Well, Ben, That's.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Why I'm saying, like it's it might not be. And
that's a weird spot for me to be in to
say that it might not be. I think it's a
hard I think Pittsburgh is going to be more competitive
than they're giving credit for in this matchup, but that's
going to be something that comes from their D line.
But I don't think they're pulling off the upset in
Baltimore I don't think bon Nicks is going into Buffalo
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and pulling off the upset. It'll it'll very likely come
down to that Green Bay Philly game. It's the idea
of what you're proposing. As someone who's been betting and
working on the professional betting side for almost eighteen years now,
it sounds a lot worse than it probably is this weekend.
You might be onto something with that three team money
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line park.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Well, so the other angle. I think there were a
few wildcard upsets last year, and again, Adam, this is
the tough part Wildcard weekend. Historically, underdogs have fared well.
I'm not going to hit you with the trend numbers,
but everybody wants to back favorites favorites a bit on
such a great run. Will that run continue or do
we see the dogs kind of barking and showing up.
I just give me your argument, how Pittsburgh maybe steals
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this game.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Well, at Pittsburgh's seen Lamar twice already this season. They
see him every year, and we've seen teams when facing
Lamar multiple times have a little bit more success against them.
It's not a like we've all heard the NFC record
for Lamar twenty was it twenty four and two now
with that game against the Eagles, And that's because there's
just a lack of familiarity and Pittsburgh ispletely opposite for that.
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So it's a divisional game in the playoffs here where
if the Steelers defensive line, which didn't have Ogin Jobi
in the last meeting we saw a couple of weeks ago,
they lost Porter Junior, their best corner on the second
drive of the game, and they were still able to
be competitive in that game into the second half until
the Wilson picked six. And again there was that Wilson
fumble inside the five yard line when the Steelers were
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moving the football. So they've they've played him close in
the first matchup and made that ugly. The second matchup
probably was a little bit closer than the scoreboard indicates
at thirty four to seventeen as that final and just
that familiarity factor I think matters, and the loss of
Zay Flowers isn't nothing. So it's really going to come
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down to the Steelers d line, if they can prevent
explosives and if they can just muddy up the game
like they did in the first meeting. There's a path
there for the Steelers.
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Speaker 2 (25:05):
I'll tell you my second best bet because a teaser,
because again I get a little skittish. I'm leading toward
the favors this weekend, but you know how that works.
They don't always clean up. So what if I took
the Texans up from three to nine. Obviously you're only
going through seven of the key number there, but I
don't know that the Chargers blow them out. And then
the other one would be I would take Buffalo down
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from nine or eight and a half to two and
a half or three, and you just got to win
by a field goal on a teaser. Now again this
is not you know, a side or a total, and
the lines are going to be sharp in the postseason.
But you hear two team teaser in the playoffs and
you're just like, oh, what Macintar, what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (25:42):
No, I don't think that anyone should think what are
you doing? I think any teaser that you can make
a six pointer at minus one twenty or better, and
you're crossing through keys of seven and three. I don't
think it's ever a bad bet to make, and especially
in those two games you mentioned, you have two totals
that are forty seven or less, which typically qualifies as
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what is called to be basic strategy teasers. If you
can tease through seven and three with a total of
forty seven or less, and you can do it at
minus one twenty or better, you're making a good bet
and you're making the plus EV decision. So it's hard
to disagree with that. We've talked about Buffalo. I'm with
you. You get them down below a field goal like, I
can't argue with that at all. I would say Houston
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as well. I think Houston has a good chance to
pull the upset against the La Chargers, so I would
agree with you on that side as well. It's just
a matter of can you get the right price, which
is a lot harder to do in twenty twenty five
in the sports betting landscape.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
So the Texans one's interesting because initially everybody likes the Chargers,
but then you're like, really, Chargers favored on the road.
Texans have been awful for a while, But there's a
huge Texans fan at the herd at one of the
producers and he's like, I'm just telling you j Mac
Stingley and Lassiter are going to be able to shut
down mconkey. And then how are who's beating us? How
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are we losing this game? And my only kept my counters, Like, okay,
that's fair. A rookie wide receiver may struggle against two
good corners, But what faith do you have in the
Houston offense to do anything? I mean, since they lost
Dell and Stefan Diggs, they've created and the offensive line
is probably in line to get pushed around here. I
don't like the Texans at all.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Is on the Lasser note, I would encourage anybody listening
search Lad McConkie best player on Google and you'll get
a note and like a video recording of the draft.
This year, he was at the podium. He was being
asked questions and the question posted him was who was
the best player that you went up against during your
time at Georgia in college? And he thought about it.
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He said, it's an easy answer. It's Kamari Lassiter, who
he is going to be going up against this game,
and the Chargers both rookies drafted this year, a lot
of familiarity in that matchup. I think mcconki is still
going to find ways to get open, but it's an
interesting kind of little tweak an advantage that the Texans
might have their favor. I think the Texans D line
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has a chance against the Chargers O line that's a
bit beat up to have a lot of disruption, and
I think that these two corners in the same way
that we saw them really disrupt the game against Miami,
which was another team that came in with what was
said to be a good run game, what was said
to be a good quick passing game, play action similar
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things to what the Chargers have. All of that was
out there and the Texans defense won them that game
at home. I think this can set up in a
very similar way to where that Texans defense can have advantage.
So I think there's certainly a path there for Houston.
As you mentioned the offense, it's been brutal, but are
we giving them a bit of a break for the
teams that they faced down the stretch. I think that's
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where we get to a big discrepancy in the number.
Here you're playing the Chiefs you're playing the Ravens. I mean,
it was tough for Houston down the stretch, and they
had a very late buy, They had injuries, and it's
kind of them coming in off of a mini last
week where the Chargers are on their third straight road
game and the Chargers had the earliest buy of any
team in the NFL. I've been going pretty steady for
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the last few weeks here, So I again, like I
go back to this number, these two teams and power
ratings that were used for betting. We're talking better betting
power ratings, not major network published ones that are just
like standings effectively, but like numbers that pros reference and
use for betting. These two teams were within one point
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of each other all season long. There was never bigger
than a one point discrepancy, and it wasn't until week
eighteen where the Chargers were actually ranked higher than the
Houston Texans. It took time to level out. This number
on a neutral field has to be five and a
half or six based on this point spread that we're
seeing at three in Houston. Like, we're just in a
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completely different world for this price than what we've been
at for four months. And that to me off the
Chargers b the Raiders with Aidan O'Connell and the Pats
with Drake May and the Denver Broncos down the stretch.
Like that's a lot and a reach to get to. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Do you think the books said it this high? Because Hey,
nobody's touching the Texans. They've been so bad the regression
and everybody loves Harball, everybody likes Herbert. Do you think
that has something to do with it?
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Yeah? And I mean they're probably drawing a ridiculous amount
of Chargers money. I would imagine if I had to
just guess who the most picked or bet side overall
in terms of count would be this entire weekend. I
would expect it to be the Chargers if we're making
the cutoff a Saturday afternoon and you don't have like
moneyline rollover instances being disrupted and you're getting like a
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crazy run of volume Sunday or Monday night. But I
would think that the Chargers are probably the most popular side,
and this number has been kind of holding there for
a reason. So I think they got it right. Like
you said, Harbaugh wins everywhere he goes. Better coach, you
have a better quarterback in this game on the Chargers,
and that's typically enough to warrant. Probably the one sided
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action books are getting on the chargers.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
So in the circa contest, you know, I don't know
if you know about the website where you can go
look at how your picks have done, Home Dogs, road favorites,
blah blah blah. For whatever reason, I was like seventy
nine percent on road favorites this year. I don't know
why I didn't do great. I finished over five hundred,
but it was only like fifty two point four or whatever.
I wasn't sniffing the cash, but for whatever reason, I
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kept hitting road favorites and they kept covering it at
insane rate. The Chargers are the biggest roads. There's only
two of Vikings and Chargers.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
It.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Yeah, so you're going chargers in this game? Is that
what you're saying?
Speaker 2 (31:44):
I don't. I mean, I like them. I just don't
know if my place is probably gonna come down off
the three by game time, right.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
I would be surprised if it didn't. I cannot imagine
a group that has enough influence to impact a playoff
point spread on Friday or Saturday leading up to kickoff
justifying Chargers minus three and moving this further, I cannot
get there. If this is going to move higher, it's
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just because things got so one sided the books are
willing to go to three and a half. I would
be very shocked if that happens. I think, if anything,
it gets to two and a half a close.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
How about this Washington Tampa game, a rematch from week one,
which you pretty much have to throw out because it
was Jaden Daniel's first game of the season. But Tampa
is one of these dangerous teams.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Man.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
I kind I want to bet Washington because I want
to root for them here. But my guess is this
is probably going to go up to three and a
half as opposed to stay on three.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Right it did earlier in the week, and I know
the better who took the three and a half and
took that out. So as it stands now, I think
we're probably going to sit around three the rest of
the week. If this does come off three and get
back to two and a half, it's absolutely getting bet
on Tampa. And I still think Tampa at three is
decide to play in this game myself, So.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Wait, so hold on, so your buddy or somebody you know,
it was at three and then he bet it and
it moved to three and a half and then came
back down.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
So it opened two and a half. It immediately got
bet to three, and then about twenty minutes later it
went to three and a half. And then Monday morning,
another pro that I know bet three and a half
and that's why there were no more three and a
halfs on the board. It came back to three. So
we have like disagreement here between two different groups one
love two and a half, one love three, and there
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was some follow up action on the three that pushed
it to three and a half, and now we're sitting
in between the two, so we're kind of like bracketed
as would be expected in a playoff game on either
side of three. I would just say, like if this
were to come back off of the three between now
and Sunday night, I would be shocked if there's not
buy back on the two and a half to take
this back to three. Like I think three for Tampa
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is the floor of what this closes.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Interesting, So his story worrickally, do you look at that
and does that factor in when you have you know,
Joe over here on three and then you know, Mike
over here with three and a half, do you take
that into your account at all when you're considering laying
a wager.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Yeah, yeah, you have to because you know who's doing it,
and you know how they're faring for the season, and
you see their action coming through, and then you also
know what they tend to value and what they're looking at.
And so when that happened, I'm looking at this game
during the week and I'm like, Okay, I can see
why the two and a halfs and the threes were
taken out, and I can see why the three and
a half's were taken out, and I can kind of
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put logic behind it, and then I kind of make
a decision off of that to figure out like where
I fit into, and I happen to fit into the
side here that is Tampa Bay at three.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Lastly, we'll skip the Rams vikings because that game maybe
moved and there's just a lot of stuff on that.
But is the only reason this isn't higher Eagles minus
four and a half because last year the Packers went
into Dallas and what destroyed the Cowboys and then nearly
had the Niners basically beaten and lost the game in
the fourth quarter, and people just respect the hell out
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of Jordan Love and Lafleur. Is that the only reason,
because this feels like it should be a little higher.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
No, the only reason it's not higher is because this
number is right. I was expecting it to open four,
which it did, and I think the only reason that
we've gone higher is because there is some uncertainty about
Jordan Love, and earlier in the week it looked like
the uncertainty was going to be with Jalen Hurts, and
so that's kind of flipped and I think that's why
this has gone up from four to four and a
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half and could possibly get to five. That could cause
a bit of difference in opinion in the market late week,
but that's I think four is the right number in
this game. Five is not enough for me to take
the dog. But this is right on what the ratings
would have made it in season, plus a bit of
a playoff bump.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Are you of the belief that there's some numbers floating
around about how Christian Watson dramatically impacts this offense. I
know the numbers aren't there for him, but the splits
with him on and off the field are. I guess
he's a you know, a tote big time game breaker,
can stretch the field, and without him, they've got good receivers.
But I don't know, it feels like this is an
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Eagles team kind of on a mission here. I do
think they are very deficient in head coaching here Visiriani
versus Floor, but I'm leaning Eagles.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Yeah, it depends what Vic Fangio chooses to do. So
Brian Floor is in Week seventeen with a Vikings defense
that plays a ton of zone coverage around seventy eight
percent of the time. He switched and he played zone
at the season low rate and really jacked up the
amount of man coverage that he was willing to play
against this Packers wide receiver group. And after the game,
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Matt Lafleur was talking about how it caught him off guard.
He was very surprised with the changeup and they didn't
see it coming and they didn't have an answer for it.
I mean, the backers looked so bad against the Vikings
in that game. So Vic Fangio, as we know, plays
a lot of his own coverage a little bit more
man heavy this year because he's got some great corners.
I think the question becomes in this game, do we
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see Fangio Steele a little page out of Flores's playbook
and go a little bit more man heavy because he
knows that without Watson on the field, the risk of
these corners, who have been awesome all season getting beat
down field is reduced quite a bit. And I tend
to think that the answer is yes, and he's willing
to take that gamble. And the question is going to
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be do we see the Saints. The Eagles played the
Saints earlier in the year, and they showed a very
unique front to stop the run with extra bodies. That
man coverage outside will let them dictate an extra guy
upfront against the run, which could make this pretty difficult
for Green Bay. And I don't know what the CounterPunch
is going to be from Lafloor, but to me, that
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Watson impact is really going to show through if we
see the Eagles go a little bit more man than
they might be expected. We've seen Jordan Love really struggle
against those looks this season.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Yeah, all right, we could wrap up Adam super Bowl.
Do you have a prediction? Doesn't have to necessarily be gambling,
but do you any guess as to And again, this
could get crazy because you know if the seven seed,
let's say the Packers win, then they go to Detroit
and it's like, oh, well, that's a problem for the Lions.
The Packers played them super tough just a few weeks ago.
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But do you have any lean as to who will
be in the Super Bowl?
Speaker 3 (38:21):
Well, back in May, I believe it was when you
referenced the Panther's take that was given on the Herd
with you and when we were on there and you
had me on My super Bowl prediction at that time
was Chiefs win the AFC Eagles win the NFC to
set up in the Super Bowl. So I'll reference that
segment again and say I'm still holding on to that prediction.
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The only thing that I have added between that time
and now for any futures relating to the Super Bowl
was after the loss to the Rams, I added Bills
six to one to win the Super Bowl, which is
still the price that is available today. They didn't get
the one seed as I thought that they might at
that time. That's covering a lot of bases here, So
for the sake of the show, I'm just going to
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stick with that Eagles Chiefs preseason prediction that dates back
to May for that one.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
I would be so annoyed if the Chiefs won another
Super Bowl? Aren't you getting board of them? They're not
fun at them. They're not a fun watch.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
You know that.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Can't you just let greatness be and enjoy it?
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Like?
Speaker 3 (39:18):
Why do we always have to try to tear down
the great see me like that seems like a quote
that would be on one of your Instagram stories after
a successful pickup game. Just let greatness be great? And
now you're trying to tear it down here on.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
They've had two years. We need some fresh brock Perty
had them last year. They had them in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
That defense needed one stop, they had four opportunities. Couldn't
get off the field once that was there for the Niners,
no question. I go back to that punt. That punt
that oh unbelievable. That just flipped the game.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Chiefs for getting.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
Dominated it all right, I'll let that take stand, but
the first just let the let the greatness be great.
I like that.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
That's a good quote. We'll put that on.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
I'll keep an eye on your Instagram for
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Sorry, Adam, turn off right angle sports good stuff buddy,
Thanks very much, chat to you soon.
This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
What is up Straight Fire FAMP. It's me Jason McIntyre,
Straight Fire for Friday, January tenth, and we've got a
great podcast for you heading into the weekend. My main
man Adam Chernoff Right Angle Sports, Big Sports Gambler, Big
NFL Gambler. He drops by, we break down all of
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the games. Should be a phenomenal weekend and fortunately we
got it started with Notre Dame Penn State last night.
Whoo that was a game. Oh my gosh. You know
that Adam Turnoff interview is lengthy, but I could probably
do thirty minutes, no problem on Notre Dame Penn State.
Just an unbelievable college football game. Now listen. It wasn't
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super high level football if you watch a quarterback play
in that the quarterback play was actually quite bad. That
being said, the game itself was tremendous because it was
close throughout. Its stunk that the under did not hit.
The score was ten ten heading into the fourth the
total was forty six. Okay a total, so you needed
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twenty seven points in the fourth quarter to top the over,
and you get thirty one in just a thrilling, ugly
at times. Fourth quarter, the kid Jeter delivers in the
clutch for Notre Dame and he will never buy a
drink in South Bend for the rest of his life.
Just a tremendous football game all around. I had the
fortune I've been shaken down cowhurt to get a hangout.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
This is like I've said, this is a big year
for me, for him, for the show. I don't know
what the future holds. And it was let's just say
it was a good hang and I'm not gonna some
of the There was a bunch of other people there, but
there was a pretty prominent college football person there. I
won't get into the person's name because I didn't ask
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if I could mention them. But you know, we're having
fun watching the game, and I'm all in on Notre Dame,
and it felt like they got totally outclassed in the
first half. They're down ten to nothing. Late first half,
Riley Leonard, who just wasn't playing good, takes a brutal hit.
He gets up and is staggering. The ref looks right
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in his eyes from like point blank. Age waves his
hands and it's like nop, you gotta go to the sideline. Sorry, dude.
So at this point I'm like, oh man, Notre Dame
is cooked down ten nothing and they got to go
to the backup, someone named Steve and Jelly and he
comes in and unbelievably, he leads him down the field
for points. And I was pretty stunned at that. Now, Listen,
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we talked about it last time. Georgia Notre Dame. The
middle eight decided the game. The final four minutes of
the first half, first four minutes of the second, Notre
Dame basically goes from down ten nothing to get the
field goal into the first half, get the opening kick
Riley Leonard's back drive down, touchdown, and it's ten ten
and they have all the momentum in the world. And
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at that point it felt like, Okay, Notre Dame's in
great shape. They've got this the superstar Abdul Carter. Oh
my gosh, how good is that guy? Listen. I had
him top fifteen in my mock draft. He looks like
a top five pick. Now he wears Micah Parsons's number,
and the box score has him for one sack, one
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tackle for loss. That seems way way low. I'm sure
those numbers will be readjusted. That's a box four on
ESPN dot com. I felt like Carter was in the
backfield every down. He must have been held three or
four times. I didn't see. I don't know if there
was one flag for holding, which is crazy. The refs
didn't call anything on the offensive side, but kept calling
defensive penalties, which killed me in the fourth quarter, and
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ultimately it just people want to jump online after this
game last night and be like, oh, oh my gosh,
Brian Kelly's such an idiot. He made all these comments
and now he left it. Notre Dames in the title game,
like Brian Kelly's out here catching trays because Notre Dame
made the title game and listen. I like Marcus Freeman
a lot. I pumped him up as a Bears option,
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and within like three days Notre Dame re ups him
and gives him a new deal. And I like Freeman
as much as the next habit. I didn't think Marcus
Freeman won this game for Notre Dame. He didn't like
do anything special. They were getting body bagged in the
first half. I can't wait to hear what the halftime
speech was because they were awesome in the second half,
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But this game essentially came down to one play. It
was nip and tuck the whole way. Listen. The turnovers
were brutal, the two inner pass interference flags on Penn State.
I was irate at the O'm sorry a Notre Dame
after they had the interceptions against Penn State. I was
irate at those. But this came down to one pass
late in the game by Drew Aller, And I don't
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know who was pushing this. Hey, he could be the
third quarterback taken. He looked good against Poise I don't
know where that narrative came from. Did he look against
the Boise State Broncos. Yeah, for half he looked sharp
as hell. First two drives specifically, he was incredible. But
I think this is closer to the real Drew Aller
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because this is up against really good competition, and you know,
we're inside a minute to play in the game, likely
headed for overtime, and he makes this decision to throw
across his body under pressure and it's picked off, and
it's like, woww you felt so bad for the kid.
And then he takes his helmet off on the sideline
and he looks so young. Maybe I'm just getting old,
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but he looked like a fifteen year old kid, you know,
And I just felt so bad for the guy. He
just made an awful decision. And listen, he made awful
decisions all night. The first ball in the end zone
they called a defensive holding, was like, that wasn't even
a jump ball. That was just I mean, it was
so bad. It was intercepted so easily. And then the
one in the second half looking for Warren was so
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criminally underthrown that the Warren had zero chance at it
and the second defender comes over and picks it off.
I mean, aller just wasn't good. But the game came
down to that play and then Notre Dame you know,
gets the ball a crucial third down Riley Leonard quick
dump off. Here's an insane stat. I tweeted about this.
In the first half, or maybe it was the third quarter.
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Notre Dame could not stop Warren, who's a stud, but
they did shut down the Penn state receivers Penn state
wide receivers. Are you ready for this? Zero catches in
the football game. How do you play sixty minutes? You
throw twenty three passes? You run I don't know, sixty
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some odd plays and not one ball is caught by
a wide receiver. That's mystifying. Now you'd have to watch
the tape again to see if that's a James Franklin
scheme thing. I honestly thought the Penn State offensive game
plan was money in the first half. Oh my gosh,
they look good. I mean, you know, Aller, but the
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run game they was for two hundred yards in the game.
Singleton looks good, Allen looks good, and of course Warren
is a warrior man. That guy's what a monster. I
liked some of the direct snap stuff they were mixing
it up, and they notre Dame was a little off balance.
I thought Penn State had a good game plan. So
James Franklin of course falls to one in fifteen against
top five opponents, and he's gonna get crushed and it
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was the time to replace him. Again. I don't think
this loss is on James Franklin. Guys. Again, we're talking
about one bad pick by Drew Aller at the end
of the game that cost Penn State. Otherwise it just
goes to overtime. Who knows what happens. This was literally
a coin flip game. Notre Dame led for four minutes
the entire game. That's it, four minutes. It was just
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an incredible football game, and it wasn't a high level
football game. It was just incredible drama and theater. It
was exciting. Jaden Greathouse with a who has an unbelievable
cool name. He had one of the moves of the
year in college football. At the line of scrimmage. You know,
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slow feet don't eat well. Great House hits the cornerback
with one of these shake moves that you see like
Jamar Chase justin Jefferson doing in the offseason. You're like, oh,
I can do that. I can get on a ladder
and do some of that fun stuff. Great Hoouse hits
the kid with it. He straight up falls down and
then great House is wide open for the fifty four
yard touchdown. That was an awesome play. But other than that,
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like there weren't a lot of big plays in this
that was the only play over thirty seven yards in
the entire game. Notre Dame could not really run the
football forty two carries for a buck sixteen. I mean,
Penn State played a really good game. They ultimately this
comes down to the Alayer interception. Now Notre Dame on
third down eleven of seventeen. That very impressive. But overall,
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I thought this was a great game. I greatly enjoyed it.
Notre Dame advances to face the winner of Texas Ohio State.
We won't do a best bet because so I'll just
talk about it here. Obviously lost on the under in
Notre Dame Penn State, excuse me, and I did hit
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the Warren prop. I hit Notre Dame. And what else
do we have here? Okay, so here's what's open. I
have a teaser. I teased Penn State up to eight
and Ohio State down to zero, and I also have
a teaser both ways. Mind you, Penn State up to eight,
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Texas to plus twelve and a half. Now, that was
kind of a dumb teaser. It only goes through the seven.
It doesn't go through three. What's the point of teasing
through ten? Blah blah blah. I do think there is
a world where there's a shootout element here and Texas
is able to cover twelve and a half. But there's
also a world where Texas just absolutely gets smoked in
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this game. So I'm on Ohio State minus six. I'm
on the over fifty three and then the two teasers.
I'll look at props and if I see anything, I'll
put it on IG. But we're gonna break down all
the NFL now with Adam Chernoff from Right Angle Sports.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in
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listen live. You know a guy, Jason likes to think
he knows everything when it comes to sports.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
I know what sports fans wants.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
But for everything he doesn't. He knows a guy who does.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Let's just say I know a guy who knows the
guy who knows another guy. All right, let's welcome into
straight fire. Adam Chernoff. You know him, Right Angle Sports,
Canadian guy, big NFL gambler he is. I don't know
if he's still doing the victory lap over the Panthers
four and a half over win total, just an awesome hit, Adam.
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How you doing on.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Man, I'm doing well. It's not the full victory lap
because there was some bleed over to the five and
a half as well, which I think kind of sits
in between, but the four and a halfs I mean
last sak you want to talk about sweating the bet
to the final drive of the season, that was it.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yeah, unbelievable stuff. Well we got we got a good
wildcard round here. I am curious overall on the season,
we saw favorites take off at a just a ridiculous clip.
I think I saw stat favorites straight up were like
twenty seven in one, favorites of six or more, whatever
the number was. But basically favorites were just hitting at
an alarming rate, and the books got crushed. I'm sure
you saw some of these press releases. Well we lost
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so much to the public. Oh, cry for them, right, Adam.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Yeah, the interesting thing about those stories is there's always tomorrow,
and the sportsbooks seem to always be open tomorrow as well,
as bad as it's been, as terrible, and as much
as people have been winning, they're always open. Yeah, favorites,
historical run down the stretch. We were fortunate to navigate
through November and December pretty well with the service and
with the bets, but yeah, historic run, and it just seemed, honestly,
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like so many these late games you watch as much
NFL as anybody in are betting all the time as well,
Like you know those games where you're expecting that last
minute drive or like the underdog who's getting a touchdown
or more, and it's like, Okay, here comes the drive.
Like honestly, for the last six or seven weeks, every
time that seemed like it was supposed to happen, it
was like, oh, here's the favorite with the pick six
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and they win by twenty and it just all of
these end games down the stretch have been really one
sided to the fairs.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Is that do you think just a luck of you know,
coin flip action or is there something to the bottom
of the league is really really rotten. I mean, we
saw a lot of bad football, a lot of there's
like six or seven teams that were just basically unbackable.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
I think it's yeah, I think it's a bit of both.
I think there's some luck in it. But also this
year there were three teams at the bottom of ratings
that were worse than any team finished the season last
year and the season prior so, like last year, Carolina
was a little bit more than a touchdown worse than
an average team. And then two years ago, remember the
Houston Texans. They were in that same category like this year,
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the Giants were incredibly bad. The Saints finished the season
incredibly bad as well, So we've seen a lot of
really bad football too, So it's a combo of both.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
And Titans I think two and fifteen against the spread,
which is like a.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Prow down there as well. Yeah, they were as bad
of a season as any teams ever had. Ats.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah, that's crazy, and I like Callahan as a coach.
I just they don't have a quarterback. But all right,
let's get to the good teams, the playoff teams. Is
there any game that as soon as they hit the
board you and the right angle team were like, hey,
we got to get this before it moves, And it
was like the first release or bed or however you
want to phrase it.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
No, because we had a lot of disagreement and there
was a lot of divided opinions internally, and I'll be honest,
we were waiting if the Rams would have hosted Washington
the seating flipped late. That would have been as big
of a bet as we probably would have made all
season on the Rams. Like I was really circling that
one and I had it in the same category as
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the Bills a few weeks ago going up against Detroit,
which was the big and strongest stance of the season,
But that would have been there, so that didn't come through.
We didn't get it. The other one that we were
really looking at was the Chargers, and it was either
against the Texans or perhaps if they were going on
the road into Baltimore. We really like that spot. But
I think the market has actually gone too far in
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that game and it was too big of a correction.
So internally we're pretty split on that one too. Now,
some things have come up during the week that have
been enticing, but it was surprising how at the moment
of open it was a lot more disagreement than it
was agreement.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
So does that whole fade Washington still apply to Tampa
versus Washington.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
A little bit? Do we want to get into that game?
We saving it for later. How do we want to approach?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
I mean, I'll let you go wherever wherever the winds
take you, if you will, But sure, I don't know.
I mean I don't think that's the best game you
know to Rematchine, let me get one more macro thing
out of the way first, Okay, Adam, you know this
gambling industry now is just everybody's trying to latch on
and get money, whether it's walking bets with your boobs
bouncing around or whatever it is. Okay, We're at a stage,
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it feels like, where people are just grasping any trend
numbers and being like, eric's a trend. You gotta hey,
you gotta bet this trend. And I just see so
many trends wild card weekend. I'm like, guys, these these
trend betters, they got their teeth kicked in all season
because they're trends. They're not predictive, as you've said many
a times, And like, let's start with the obvious one,
first time quarterbacks in the playoffs. Facing a quarterback who's
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been in the playoffs is like thirty percent. You gotta
bet that trend. There's a few of those this week,
including Sam Darnold and bow Nix. But like, how do
you handle when you hear trends and your team do
you guys are just like, oh, that's nice, thanks, moving on.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Well, let me ask you first. You mentioned walking bets.
Can I trademark sitting bets? Can I do that? Is
that doable?
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Or I don't know if.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
There's a big market for that, but go for it. Yeah,
it's you don't think it'll land the same, I not quite.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
To your quarterback point nineteen and thirty eight is the
specifics for that staff ats. So it hasn't been good.
I think a lot of it's priced in one because
it's known so much. But also when we get to
the playoffs, home field advantage is magnified a little bit too.
And so whether that's reflective of that or not, Like
you think about the home teams and the increased home
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field advantage, perhaps taking advantage of those quarterbacks starting on
the road in their debut, that might all kind of
encompass everything that comes with that as well. So stuff
like that that is mentioned so often and the so public,
especially in the playoffs where there's only six games, it's
really hard to say like that's full justification for making
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a bet because everybody knows it and the market certainly
knows it too.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
The thing you do that I like a lot is,
for instance, X defense plays man to man coverage at
the highest rate. Take the Denver Broncos, one of the
biggest man defenses. Well, Josh Allen with his legs is
going to eat up man defense. Is Patrick Tartan turns
his back to chase Amari Cooper down the field, Well,
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guess what, that's a huge lane for Josh Allen. I
looked at his rushing prop. I think I saw forty
two and a half. That's a ridiculous number for a
quarterback in a playoff game. But is that the kind
of thing that's baked in or no?
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Yeah, I mean his average closer in the season has
been in the low thirties, so you're seeing the premium
put on it. Like you mentioned, the Broncos a top
five defense for man usage, and Josh Allen when he's
facing man coverage scrambles ten percent of dropbacks, so his
scramble rate is up about four and a half percent
versus zone to one of the highest rates in the league.
So again with playoffs, obviously the MVP of the season.
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Finding something that is not known in a prop like
that that is very obvious, It really hard to get around. Now,
he's certainly going to run a lot against the Denver Broncos,
but the Broncos know that too obviously coming into the game.
So there's a lot of matchup stuff like that that
is hard to maybe find the full edge on, especially
in the prop market. Two on marquee players.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
For a few weeks now, I've been saying, boy Bill's Broncos.
I hope that happens. I will put the mortgage on it.
I thought it would be similar mortgage well when Mac
Jones was facing Buffalo in that playoff game. The only
luck that Peyton and Nick's got here is that it's
like a one pm kickoff, right, so it's not like
the nighttime juiced up stadium, which is what the Steelers
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will be going into in Baltimore. But I do wonder
did Denver catch a break there? This number has been
pinging around. I don't know what people are seeing on
Denver here.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Well, the Broncos have a very specific path in this game,
and that is that they have a very good offensive line.
They have a loaded interior offensive line, and the biggest
weakness of the Bills is the spine of the defense.
So if the Broncos can come into this game and
they can commit to the ground game early and they
can be effective with it, and they can open up
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play action, what we've seen the Bill struggle with is
when they have to over commit guys to the run game.
It really puts some of these corners on a bit
of an island. And I think Broncos are going to
be able to have success off of play action if
they can really get the run game going. So I
think that's priority number one for them. And if they
can do that, the Bills. I mean, remember the Ravens
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game and how one sided that was. I'm not putting
the Broncos run game on the Ravens level by any means,
but that's a perfect example of the big weakness that
the Bills have. So the Broncos are not dead in
this game at all. I think they have a path
for success on offense. But to me, it's the other
side contributing here. I think this game is going to
be a shootout, and I'm looking at forty seven. I
think that is huh, it's too short of a total
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for sure.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Well wait, wait, wait a minute, I'm thinking back. Do
you remember when mix In and Burrow went in there
and they won handily. He was like twenty seven to ten,
ran the ball all over Buffalo. My only counter is, Okay,
Buffalo's got a really good secondary, good in coverage, strong safeties,
wouldn't Buffalo just consider saying, hey, you know what, We're
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going to stack the box and dare bon Nicks to
freaking beat us.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
I think Bone has an opportunity to bid them if
they can complate that ground game. The Bill's defense is
very aggressive, and it's very attacking, and it's free flowing,
and it's great when they're playing with the lead and
they can play downhill. But when this defense is challenged
in a neutral game and that's a close game, I
think it's far worse than it looks. And I mean
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visually on screen and during the games, you can see
this defensive lineup front really getting pushed around in the interior.
And I mean Cincinnati in many ways was daring bow
Nicks to beat them, and we saw some amazing deep
throats that he was able to complete in that game
when playing from behind as well. So there's opportunities here
for Denver to move the ball certainly.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Okay, I take that back. The Bill's safeties are not great.
It's the corners. Benford's been excellent, Johnson awesome in the slot,
but the safety's Hamlin has not been great. Rap is
a bit of a drop off. Now, now you got
me feeling a little nervous about my Bill's Bill's bet.
How's this one? This was my biggest bet so far
of Wildcard.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Well, hold on, you talk about the Bills for a sect,
because I wouldn't be nervous in that regard because you
have Josh Allen. I mean, this is going to be
such a Josh Allen like trademark game where he can
drop back, use his legs as we talked about, but
his ability to take on linebackers, and how great Joe
Brady is at scheming some of these running backs open
out of the backfield, and some of these rub routes
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with receivers like Shakir in this quick passing game that's
there all day against this Broncos defense. So I'm not
trying to advocate that the Broncos are going to go
in and pull the upset. This Bill's offense has just
as big, if not a much bigger matchup advantage on offense.
I just think both teams have success moving to football,
so I wouldn't be scared about your bet.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
So well, here's the actual bet. Bill's money line, Raven's
money line, Eagles money line. Three teams playing at home.
Two teams over a touchdown favorite. There's some concern with
the hurts concussion, but overall I'm not as bullish on
the Packers as I once was. That to me is
kind of a safe bet. Those three teams on the
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money line. Now, I'm sure you're like, Jason, come on
money through three team money line, give me a break.
But it pays out, you know, a thousand wins, you
like what eleven hundred probably on that. Where are you
on like a three team parlay this weekend?
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Like you bring it? My default response should be that
that's a bad decision to make, Okay, But if I'm
being honest, like it's it's hard to see an upset
happening in those three games.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Specifically, I think it a bad decision. Well, Ben, That's.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Why I'm saying, like it's it might not be. And
that's a weird spot for me to be in to
say that it might not be. I think it's a
hard I think Pittsburgh is going to be more competitive
than they're giving credit for in this matchup, but that's
going to be something that comes from their D line.
But I don't think they're pulling off the upset in
Baltimore I don't think bon Nicks is going into Buffalo
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and pulling off the upset. It'll it'll very likely come
down to that Green Bay Philly game. It's the idea
of what you're proposing. As someone who's been betting and
working on the professional betting side for almost eighteen years now,
it sounds a lot worse than it probably is this weekend.
You might be onto something with that three team money
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line park.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Well, so the other angle. I think there were a
few wildcard upsets last year, and again, Adam, this is
the tough part Wildcard weekend. Historically, underdogs have fared well.
I'm not going to hit you with the trend numbers,
but everybody wants to back favorites favorites a bit on
such a great run. Will that run continue or do
we see the dogs kind of barking and showing up.
I just give me your argument, how Pittsburgh maybe steals
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this game.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Well, at Pittsburgh's seen Lamar twice already this season. They
see him every year, and we've seen teams when facing
Lamar multiple times have a little bit more success against them.
It's not a like we've all heard the NFC record
for Lamar twenty was it twenty four and two now
with that game against the Eagles, And that's because there's
just a lack of familiarity and Pittsburgh ispletely opposite for that.
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So it's a divisional game in the playoffs here where
if the Steelers defensive line, which didn't have Ogin Jobi
in the last meeting we saw a couple of weeks ago,
they lost Porter Junior, their best corner on the second
drive of the game, and they were still able to
be competitive in that game into the second half until
the Wilson picked six. And again there was that Wilson
fumble inside the five yard line when the Steelers were
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moving the football. So they've they've played him close in
the first matchup and made that ugly. The second matchup
probably was a little bit closer than the scoreboard indicates
at thirty four to seventeen as that final and just
that familiarity factor I think matters, and the loss of
Zay Flowers isn't nothing. So it's really going to come
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down to the Steelers d line, if they can prevent
explosives and if they can just muddy up the game
like they did in the first meeting. There's a path
there for the Steelers.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
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Speaker 2 (25:05):
I'll tell you my second best bet because a teaser,
because again I get a little skittish. I'm leading toward
the favors this weekend, but you know how that works.
They don't always clean up. So what if I took
the Texans up from three to nine. Obviously you're only
going through seven of the key number there, but I
don't know that the Chargers blow them out. And then
the other one would be I would take Buffalo down
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from nine or eight and a half to two and
a half or three, and you just got to win
by a field goal on a teaser. Now again this
is not you know, a side or a total, and
the lines are going to be sharp in the postseason.
But you hear two team teaser in the playoffs and
you're just like, oh, what Macintar, what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (25:42):
No, I don't think that anyone should think what are
you doing? I think any teaser that you can make
a six pointer at minus one twenty or better, and
you're crossing through keys of seven and three. I don't
think it's ever a bad bet to make, and especially
in those two games you mentioned, you have two totals
that are forty seven or less, which typically qualifies as
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what is called to be basic strategy teasers. If you
can tease through seven and three with a total of
forty seven or less, and you can do it at
minus one twenty or better, you're making a good bet
and you're making the plus EV decision. So it's hard
to disagree with that. We've talked about Buffalo. I'm with
you. You get them down below a field goal like, I
can't argue with that at all. I would say Houston
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as well. I think Houston has a good chance to
pull the upset against the La Chargers, so I would
agree with you on that side as well. It's just
a matter of can you get the right price, which
is a lot harder to do in twenty twenty five
in the sports betting landscape.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
So the Texans one's interesting because initially everybody likes the Chargers,
but then you're like, really, Chargers favored on the road.
Texans have been awful for a while, But there's a
huge Texans fan at the herd at one of the
producers and he's like, I'm just telling you j Mac
Stingley and Lassiter are going to be able to shut
down mconkey. And then how are who's beating us? How
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are we losing this game? And my only kept my counters, Like, okay,
that's fair. A rookie wide receiver may struggle against two
good corners, But what faith do you have in the
Houston offense to do anything? I mean, since they lost
Dell and Stefan Diggs, they've created and the offensive line
is probably in line to get pushed around here. I
don't like the Texans at all.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Is on the Lasser note, I would encourage anybody listening
search Lad McConkie best player on Google and you'll get
a note and like a video recording of the draft.
This year, he was at the podium. He was being
asked questions and the question posted him was who was
the best player that you went up against during your
time at Georgia in college? And he thought about it.
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He said, it's an easy answer. It's Kamari Lassiter, who
he is going to be going up against this game,
and the Chargers both rookies drafted this year, a lot
of familiarity in that matchup. I think mcconki is still
going to find ways to get open, but it's an
interesting kind of little tweak an advantage that the Texans
might have their favor. I think the Texans D line
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has a chance against the Chargers O line that's a
bit beat up to have a lot of disruption, and
I think that these two corners in the same way
that we saw them really disrupt the game against Miami,
which was another team that came in with what was
said to be a good run game, what was said
to be a good quick passing game, play action similar
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things to what the Chargers have. All of that was
out there and the Texans defense won them that game
at home. I think this can set up in a
very similar way to where that Texans defense can have advantage.
So I think there's certainly a path there for Houston.
As you mentioned the offense, it's been brutal, but are
we giving them a bit of a break for the
teams that they faced down the stretch. I think that's
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where we get to a big discrepancy in the number.
Here you're playing the Chiefs you're playing the Ravens. I mean,
it was tough for Houston down the stretch, and they
had a very late buy, They had injuries, and it's
kind of them coming in off of a mini last
week where the Chargers are on their third straight road
game and the Chargers had the earliest buy of any
team in the NFL. I've been going pretty steady for
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the last few weeks here, So I again, like I
go back to this number, these two teams and power
ratings that were used for betting. We're talking better betting
power ratings, not major network published ones that are just
like standings effectively, but like numbers that pros reference and
use for betting. These two teams were within one point
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of each other all season long. There was never bigger
than a one point discrepancy, and it wasn't until week
eighteen where the Chargers were actually ranked higher than the
Houston Texans. It took time to level out. This number
on a neutral field has to be five and a
half or six based on this point spread that we're
seeing at three in Houston. Like, we're just in a
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completely different world for this price than what we've been
at for four months. And that to me off the
Chargers b the Raiders with Aidan O'Connell and the Pats
with Drake May and the Denver Broncos down the stretch.
Like that's a lot and a reach to get to. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Do you think the books said it this high? Because Hey,
nobody's touching the Texans. They've been so bad the regression
and everybody loves Harball, everybody likes Herbert. Do you think
that has something to do with it?
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Yeah? And I mean they're probably drawing a ridiculous amount
of Chargers money. I would imagine if I had to
just guess who the most picked or bet side overall
in terms of count would be this entire weekend. I
would expect it to be the Chargers if we're making
the cutoff a Saturday afternoon and you don't have like
moneyline rollover instances being disrupted and you're getting like a
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crazy run of volume Sunday or Monday night. But I
would think that the Chargers are probably the most popular side,
and this number has been kind of holding there for
a reason. So I think they got it right. Like
you said, Harbaugh wins everywhere he goes. Better coach, you
have a better quarterback in this game on the Chargers,
and that's typically enough to warrant. Probably the one sided
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action books are getting on the chargers.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
So in the circa contest, you know, I don't know
if you know about the website where you can go
look at how your picks have done, Home Dogs, road favorites,
blah blah blah. For whatever reason, I was like seventy
nine percent on road favorites this year. I don't know
why I didn't do great. I finished over five hundred,
but it was only like fifty two point four or whatever.
I wasn't sniffing the cash, but for whatever reason, I
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kept hitting road favorites and they kept covering it at
insane rate. The Chargers are the biggest roads. There's only
two of Vikings and Chargers.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
It.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Yeah, so you're going chargers in this game? Is that
what you're saying?
Speaker 2 (31:44):
I don't. I mean, I like them. I just don't
know if my place is probably gonna come down off
the three by game time, right.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
I would be surprised if it didn't. I cannot imagine
a group that has enough influence to impact a playoff
point spread on Friday or Saturday leading up to kickoff
justifying Chargers minus three and moving this further, I cannot
get there. If this is going to move higher, it's
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just because things got so one sided the books are
willing to go to three and a half. I would
be very shocked if that happens. I think, if anything,
it gets to two and a half a close.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
How about this Washington Tampa game, a rematch from week one,
which you pretty much have to throw out because it
was Jaden Daniel's first game of the season. But Tampa
is one of these dangerous teams.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Man.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
I kind I want to bet Washington because I want
to root for them here. But my guess is this
is probably going to go up to three and a
half as opposed to stay on three.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Right it did earlier in the week, and I know
the better who took the three and a half and
took that out. So as it stands now, I think
we're probably going to sit around three the rest of
the week. If this does come off three and get
back to two and a half, it's absolutely getting bet
on Tampa. And I still think Tampa at three is
decide to play in this game myself, So.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Wait, so hold on, so your buddy or somebody you know,
it was at three and then he bet it and
it moved to three and a half and then came
back down.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
So it opened two and a half. It immediately got
bet to three, and then about twenty minutes later it
went to three and a half. And then Monday morning,
another pro that I know bet three and a half
and that's why there were no more three and a
halfs on the board. It came back to three. So
we have like disagreement here between two different groups one
love two and a half, one love three, and there
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was some follow up action on the three that pushed
it to three and a half, and now we're sitting
in between the two, so we're kind of like bracketed
as would be expected in a playoff game on either
side of three. I would just say, like if this
were to come back off of the three between now
and Sunday night, I would be shocked if there's not
buy back on the two and a half to take
this back to three. Like I think three for Tampa
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is the floor of what this closes.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Interesting, So his story worrickally, do you look at that
and does that factor in when you have you know,
Joe over here on three and then you know, Mike
over here with three and a half, do you take
that into your account at all when you're considering laying
a wager.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Yeah, yeah, you have to because you know who's doing it,
and you know how they're faring for the season, and
you see their action coming through, and then you also
know what they tend to value and what they're looking at.
And so when that happened, I'm looking at this game
during the week and I'm like, Okay, I can see
why the two and a halfs and the threes were
taken out, and I can see why the three and
a half's were taken out, and I can kind of
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put logic behind it, and then I kind of make
a decision off of that to figure out like where
I fit into, and I happen to fit into the
side here that is Tampa Bay at three.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Lastly, we'll skip the Rams vikings because that game maybe
moved and there's just a lot of stuff on that.
But is the only reason this isn't higher Eagles minus
four and a half because last year the Packers went
into Dallas and what destroyed the Cowboys and then nearly
had the Niners basically beaten and lost the game in
the fourth quarter, and people just respect the hell out
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of Jordan Love and Lafleur. Is that the only reason,
because this feels like it should be a little higher.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
No, the only reason it's not higher is because this
number is right. I was expecting it to open four,
which it did, and I think the only reason that
we've gone higher is because there is some uncertainty about
Jordan Love, and earlier in the week it looked like
the uncertainty was going to be with Jalen Hurts, and
so that's kind of flipped and I think that's why
this has gone up from four to four and a
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half and could possibly get to five. That could cause
a bit of difference in opinion in the market late week,
but that's I think four is the right number in
this game. Five is not enough for me to take
the dog. But this is right on what the ratings
would have made it in season, plus a bit of
a playoff bump.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Are you of the belief that there's some numbers floating
around about how Christian Watson dramatically impacts this offense. I
know the numbers aren't there for him, but the splits
with him on and off the field are. I guess
he's a you know, a tote big time game breaker,
can stretch the field, and without him, they've got good receivers.
But I don't know, it feels like this is an
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Eagles team kind of on a mission here. I do
think they are very deficient in head coaching here Visiriani
versus Floor, but I'm leaning Eagles.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Yeah, it depends what Vic Fangio chooses to do. So
Brian Floor is in Week seventeen with a Vikings defense
that plays a ton of zone coverage around seventy eight
percent of the time. He switched and he played zone
at the season low rate and really jacked up the
amount of man coverage that he was willing to play
against this Packers wide receiver group. And after the game,
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Matt Lafleur was talking about how it caught him off guard.
He was very surprised with the changeup and they didn't
see it coming and they didn't have an answer for it.
I mean, the backers looked so bad against the Vikings
in that game. So Vic Fangio, as we know, plays
a lot of his own coverage a little bit more
man heavy this year because he's got some great corners.
I think the question becomes in this game, do we
(37:02):
see Fangio Steele a little page out of Flores's playbook
and go a little bit more man heavy because he
knows that without Watson on the field, the risk of
these corners, who have been awesome all season getting beat
down field is reduced quite a bit. And I tend
to think that the answer is yes, and he's willing
to take that gamble. And the question is going to
(37:23):
be do we see the Saints. The Eagles played the
Saints earlier in the year, and they showed a very
unique front to stop the run with extra bodies. That
man coverage outside will let them dictate an extra guy
upfront against the run, which could make this pretty difficult
for Green Bay. And I don't know what the CounterPunch
is going to be from Lafloor, but to me, that
(37:46):
Watson impact is really going to show through if we
see the Eagles go a little bit more man than
they might be expected. We've seen Jordan Love really struggle
against those looks this season.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Yeah, all right, we could wrap up Adam super Bowl.
Do you have a prediction? Doesn't have to necessarily be gambling,
but do you any guess as to And again, this
could get crazy because you know if the seven seed,
let's say the Packers win, then they go to Detroit
and it's like, oh, well, that's a problem for the Lions.
The Packers played them super tough just a few weeks ago.
(38:18):
But do you have any lean as to who will
be in the Super Bowl?
Speaker 3 (38:21):
Well, back in May, I believe it was when you
referenced the Panther's take that was given on the Herd
with you and when we were on there and you
had me on My super Bowl prediction at that time
was Chiefs win the AFC Eagles win the NFC to
set up in the Super Bowl. So I'll reference that
segment again and say I'm still holding on to that prediction.
(38:42):
The only thing that I have added between that time
and now for any futures relating to the Super Bowl
was after the loss to the Rams, I added Bills
six to one to win the Super Bowl, which is
still the price that is available today. They didn't get
the one seed as I thought that they might at
that time. That's covering a lot of bases here, So
for the sake of the show, I'm just going to
(39:03):
stick with that Eagles Chiefs preseason prediction that dates back
to May for that one.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
I would be so annoyed if the Chiefs won another
Super Bowl? Aren't you getting board of them? They're not
fun at them. They're not a fun watch.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
You know that.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Can't you just let greatness be and enjoy it?
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Like?
Speaker 3 (39:18):
Why do we always have to try to tear down
the great see me like that seems like a quote
that would be on one of your Instagram stories after
a successful pickup game. Just let greatness be great? And
now you're trying to tear it down here on.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
They've had two years. We need some fresh brock Perty
had them last year. They had them in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
That defense needed one stop, they had four opportunities. Couldn't
get off the field once that was there for the Niners,
no question. I go back to that punt. That punt
that oh unbelievable. That just flipped the game.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Chiefs for getting.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
Dominated it all right, I'll let that take stand, but
the first just let the let the greatness be great.
I like that.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
That's a good quote. We'll put that on.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
I'll keep an eye on your Instagram for
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Sorry, Adam, turn off right angle sports good stuff buddy,
Thanks very much, chat to you soon.
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