The Bernie Fratto Show talks AFC Wild Card Playoffs, College Football Championship, and More!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Well, that's right, you heard the man. It is at
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buying should be. I cannot begin this broadcast without addressing
briefly the very serious situation in southern California, where I
spent much of my life. I have friends there and
family there. My show was preempted Friday night, and for
very good reason. But I no, I don't have the words.

(00:48):
I would just simply say my thoughts are prayers, are sincererious,
condolence's best wishes. I know this about the great state
of California. It's a resilient group. We're rooting for you,
and I hope this passes sooner rather than later. I
wish I had more articulate pros and poetry. I just

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simply don't. But a lot of people are rooting for you.
Back to the reality, the toy department of life, the
sports department. A lot of people are rooting for the
Chargers today, I guess as well, And as you may
or may not have heard me say a thousand times

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on my show, sports are the greatest reality. You know, production,
and you can script everything but the ending. I mean,
what if I told you heading into the game the
entire season. I heard Jay Wright, the great coach of Villanova,
talking about this, how you would trust a guy like
Justin Herbert in much the same way ball security is

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extremely important in basketball, it's very important in football. Herbert
had thrown three interceptions the entire season. He threw four
on Saturday, and there in lives the headline. The Chargers
completely fell apart. They lose to Houston thirty two to
twelve after getting Ottawas six to nothing. Leads so much
for the seventeen point per game, jesse Mentor's defense and

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the fact that Houston had been one and six against
playoff teams this year. Right on down the line, Herbert
owned it. He said, quote, I let the team down.
You can't turn the ball over like that and expect
to win. I just have to be better. It was
a nightmare, absolute nightmare. The four interceptions were more than
again Herbert threw for the entire season. The last time

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a Chargers quarterback ever threw four interceptions in a playoff
game was well, it was thirty years ago. Stan Humphreys
did it nineteen ninety five against the Indianapolis Colts, and
the true circle of life. You can't make this stuff up.
Who was the starting quarterback for the Colts that day
in nineteen ninety five, Yeah, you guess, Jim Harbaugh. The

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funny thing is is that Herbert really looked uncomfortable alo
he just he had constant pressure. And we believed a
lot of folks believe that with JK. Dobbins healthy and
back in the mix, the Chargers would established the run,
which they started too early. But then the run game
became non existent. Herbert was sacked four times, he was
pressured on fifty percent of his dropacks, he didn't get

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enough help or support in the ground, and he only
ran for fifty yards, I mean eighteen carries fifty yards. Meanwhile,
Herbert just completed forty three percent of his passes fourteen
to thirty two. And we know that he's act some
impressive numbers early in his career, but he struggled. He struggled,
frankly with it's needed. Most of course, Robert Griffin made
a note of that. He goes, I hope you all

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call him out like you call out Lamar Jackson and
Dak Prescott. Okay, Robert, you feel better now, don't worry.
We will That's what I'm doing right now. Wow. Early
in the game, by the way, it looked like the
charge Argers would pounce on the on the on the Texans.
The Texans, you know, were not a great playoff team.
I mean Rex Ryan even popped off and said, Hey,

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I didn't know the Chargers had to buy they're going
to play the Texans. We'll give the Texans the Demico
Ryans a lot of credit. Football is still blocking and tackling.
And I got to say, after their slow start, which
which the Chargers could not take advantage of, the Texans
came back and on their first offensive play of the game.

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You know, I'll tell you what. Rather than do this
complete roll call, let's just say this. The one bright
spot the Chargers had was was Lad McConkie. If you
could find any positive in that tough loss, he said, frankly,
and I don't know why they don't. Maybe you can

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give him credit, Robert Griffin. Lad McConkie is the star.
He was the only one to perform at a high
level for the entire Charger offense. And he doesn't have
a foiler on the other side. He caught nine balls
one hundred and ninety seven yards, had the EDC. He
shared a touchdown reception, and I hear people say, well,
he's not a number one. Did you see anybody catch
him from behind? He caught balls over the middle and
got flattened. He's not afraid to go into traffic. He'll

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fight for the ball. He's got very secure hands. And
I'm guessing I'll have to check on our buddy Mike
Carmon that Lad McConkey might go someone high next year
with you all the wide receivers that fantasy people like
to draft. The one good thing I will say about
this is that Justin Herbert I do believe very much

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as a support of his team and his coach. Harball
defended Justin Herbert post game, saying, coach his quarterback played
like he always does, a complete beast. I'm not sure
what game Harball was watching he you know, didn't finish
a lot of his throws in his throwing motion. But
his center Bradley Boseman, said, look, this guy's a damn
good football player, one of the best quarterbacks in the league.

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He had a bad day, Matthew Potter, and he's going
to get slacked because people, that's what we do. We
elevate people to the highest level in life, only to
tear them back down. But I'll say this about the Chargers,
and let's face it, the Chargers you could say overachieved.
They got to the playoffs. They were a favorite, a

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road favorite. But I want to see what Jim Harbaugh
does from this point forward. One of my absolute favorite
Jim Harball stories. Actually, forget it, it is my favorite
Jim Harball story. Harball had a slow start at University
of Michigan, didn't play it all its freshman year, barely
played a sophomore year. I wasn't feeling real good about things.

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In the spring following is sophomore year, he was walking
across campus and he saw coach both sham Becker and
his peripheral vision about fifty yards away, and he started
to pick up his pace and go into different direction
he did not want to see coach. Things were not
going well, and Harball was pondering his future at Michigan.
Of course, coach sham Beckler caught up to him and

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in front of him and said, hey, Jim, how are
you doing heading the class? Yeah? Coach, coach, how you doing?
I'm doing good? Look at me, Jim. And Coach sham
Becker kind of grabbed Jim by the shoulders and looked
him up and down like a piece of meat. He said,
what are you about?

Speaker 3 (07:16):
Six?

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Two to two ten? Now, Jim, about two ten, because
that's parted coach? Good? Good? You've been working out? Yeah? Yeah, coach, yep, Jim.
Let me tell you something. I recruited you, I wanted you,
and you might be the biggest mistake I ever made
in my recruiting life. Or you might be the greatest

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quarterback in the University of Michigan history. And both. Shambelle
turned the turntail, put his head down and strolled away,
and Hobbaugh stood there motionless. What was that? Went back
to his dorm, laid on his bed and pondered his
navel and said, what was that? And it? He said,

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it took up about a month and then they dawned
on him. What coach was basically saying is that it's
up to me. It's going to be up to me,
and that should be the theme for the Chargers heading into
twenty twenty five in this same division as the Kansas
City Chiefs, an extremely improved Denver team, and then of

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course there are the Raiders. But you know, the NFL
doesn't operate in a vacuum. As far as the Steelers
and Ravens takeaways, Lamar Jackson, Derrick Henry, they did what
they were paid to do. It was a very decisive
victory over Pittsburgh, or Pittsburgh appears to be a team,
appears to be a franchise that, to me, has lost

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its identity, and you absolutely know what that identity has
been for fifty years. Baltimore jumped all over Pittsburgh from
the start. Offensively, Lamar Jackson took the liberty to run
quite a bit more than he did during both regular
season matchups versus the Steelers, and after the game, Jackson
said he was running a lot of Reid option. He

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was basically reacting to whatever Pittsburgh's defense was doing. And
what happened was that early success on the ground that
Lamar Jackson had basically opened up the rest of the
Ravens offense, especially for Derrick Henry and the running game.
But Jackson also had plenty of success through the air
despite the absence, and I thought it would be a

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bigger loss than their number one target, Zay Flowers. Meanwhile, defensively, Baltimore,
their defense routinely had Pittsburgh in terrible down in distant situations,
especially in the first half. They got the Steelers offense
off the field, and they got two big stops after
Pittsburgh had made it a fourteen point game late the

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fourth gain the third quarter. So why did the Steelers
lose as they had done during their four game losing streak.
They started flat, deny it. They were flat. They were
out gained three hundred and six yards to fifty nine
in the first half two first downs compared to Baltimore's nineteen.
They were one for five on third downs in the

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first half. Pittsburgh's offense continually committed self inflicted wounds too
many third lungs the game. Their running game was a
non factor. Najie Harris rushed for seventeen yards on six
carries and I doubt he'll be back with Pittsburgh next year. Also,
Russell Wilson six and six as Pittsburgh starting quarterback. He

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lived and died on the deep passes. George Pickens stepped up,
but the offense didn't do much else. Speaking of Pickings,
excuse me. He had eighty seven yards on five catches,
but just one catch in the first half. The game
was over at halftime. It was over at halftime. So again,
going forward, I think both the Steelers and the Chargers

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have to do some soul searching. But hool springs eternal.
They were playoff teams this year, even though the Steelers
havn't won a playoff games since twenty sixteen. Onward and upward,
as is the situation with Baltimore. Who if I'm a
betting man and I am likely we'll face the Houston
Texans next week. That's the way I see it. And

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of course, you know the Chargers will go home lick
their wounds. They had a good draft this past year
and we'll see where. We'll see where that ends up.
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We still got four more games in the dock and
I want to get some takeaways for the two games
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Speaker 2 (12:41):
All right back at the Bernie Frattle Show Fox Sports Radio.
Kenedy live from the tire Act dot Com studios here
in Las Vegas, is welcome and a gentleman. He's been
with us before. One of the most respected handicappers in
Las Vegas and recent winner of the Las Vegas Review
Journal NFL Challenge with a record of fifty one and

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thirty seven. Nudging out a guy who may have heard
of Brent Mosberger, say, look, Scott, Kellen, Scott, Howry.

Speaker 5 (13:07):
Buddy, Hey, how's the go. I'm Bernie. Good to be on.
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah, good to have you. It's playoff time and it
gets even more a dicey as you can see. Before
we dive into the remaining four games on the docket,
I'd like to get a couple of takeaways from you today.
The Chargers headed into Houston. Houston had only been one

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and six against playoff teams. Jesse Minter had a defense
allowing seventeen points per game, and Houston completely turned the tables.
What were your takeaways from that game?

Speaker 5 (13:42):
If you had any, Yeah, I think you know.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
With what both the Chargers and Pittsburgh. You know, the
way I looked at those games, both these teams to
me were very average teams this year, and it successfully
came because they won the turnover battle. Pittsburgh got a
ton of turnovers. Uh, Sandy or the Chargers did turn
the ball over all year. Obviously that flipped on them today.

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So you know, I was on Houston today. I just
thought that line was a little bit off. And you know,
I bet Baltimore over their team total because we've we've
seen this of Pittsburgh. You know, their defense really, to
me again is kind of average. We know their offenses
below average. So you know, neither result really shocked me today.

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And and I you know, the last thing I would
say on this too, I guess Bernie is the Chargers
in Houston both came into this with a strength, you
know what, some of the weakest strength of victories in
the NFL this year, So they were some of the
weaker teams coming into the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
UH. Today as well, let's quickly glance over the Baltimore
raven Steelers game. And part of the reason I say
that is I'm I'm secure in the knowledge I believe
Houston will be visiting Baltimore next week. And I always
call Lamar Jackson mister October because that's when he shines,
but in January not so much. And I'm not getting

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off that horse until he proves it to me. It
doesn't feel like the Ravens would lose to Houston, but
I don't think they can look past him. How do
you assess that game next week, assuming they.

Speaker 5 (15:17):
Play, Well, let's make sure you run the same page.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
If if Buffalo wins tomorrow, then Baltimore will go to
Buffalo and Houston would go to Kansas City. So do
you think Denver is winning?

Speaker 2 (15:32):
I've got that backwards. For some reason, my information was wrong.
I assume that if Buffalo won. Okay, so let's skip that.
Let's just skip that talk about my bad Let's let's
talk about Baltimore as a standalone franchise with respect to
You know, they've got to win two more games just
to get to the super Bowl, and I feel don't

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have to go through error. At some point, I just
I'm not sold on them for some reason, and I
can't get it out of my mind. Well, talk about
the Ravens from your vantage point.

Speaker 5 (16:05):
Yeah, I'm with you.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
I mean, if you look at the AFC, I think,
you know, it's no shocker. Kansas City, Ballder, and Buffalo
all have a chance to come out of there.

Speaker 5 (16:14):
But to your point, I.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
Mean, Baldiver's offense is very good. I was looking back
today to look at their offensive ratings with Lamar Jackson,
you go all the way back to twenty nineteen, it
was probably the other team that had an even better
offensive season than this unit is having this year. Last
year was just slightly below. And we know they failed

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in those times. You know, back in twenty nineteen they
lost at homes to Tennessee. Last year, of course, we
know they lost at home to Kansas City. Look, it's
a very good team. I think their defense is kind
of about average. So you know, I don't think, you know,
if they have to go on the road to Kansas City,
it's hard to say how good Kansas City is.

Speaker 5 (16:54):
But we don't how Kansas City.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
Seems to come through every year. They have a good
head coach and obviously a great quarterback. And you know,
I don't want to say Lamar Jackson can't win it
because you know, people said.

Speaker 5 (17:05):
Out about Peyton Manning and all.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
This and that, and you know, sometimes you just didn't
have the right team, or you're having to go on
the road to play against a great team.

Speaker 5 (17:14):
But kind of to your point, until we see.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
Lamar do it, it's hard for me to say he
can do it.

Speaker 5 (17:21):
So they're certainly there, but.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
They got to get through Kansas City first, and until
they do it, I'm not sure it'll happen.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Right well, and we'll save that for another day. Okay,
So let's talk about Denver visiting Buffalo. It's the first
game of the dock at Sunday. You talked about turnovers.
Buffalo leads the NFL over in turnover margin, and history
is not kind to rookie quarterbacks going on the road
for the first playoff win. I don't frankly see a

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path to victory for the Broncos unless they can somehow
keep Josh Allen off the field with a bunch of
screenplays and short passes. Because Denver's run game isn't great,
I'd be inclined I delay the eight and a half.
I've used Buffalo as a teaser partner alongside Baltimore. What's
your take on this game?

Speaker 3 (18:07):
Yeah, I think the teaser is a good option, Bernie.
What I'll probably play here is kind of like I
did with Baltimore here, not wanting to lay a whole
bunch of points and probably go over their team total,
which I think is since that twenty eight and a half.
Denver is one of you know four teams I mentioned
earlier with the Chargers in Houston and just the very
weak strength of victory, and Denver's right there as well,

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with a very very weak strength of victory this year. So,
I mean, they haven't beat a lot of good teams
number one, number two when they've gone on the road
against really good offenses. They lost forty one to ten
at Baltimore, they lost thirty to twenty four to Cincinnati,
and now you got Buffalo at home, which in all
but one home game this year has scored thirty or
more points. They've averaged thirty four points a game. I

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just you know, the Denver defense is good, but it's
you know, it's not elite, and Buffalo's going to score
some points in this game.

Speaker 5 (19:00):
They don't turn the ball over like you said.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
Yeah, the one weakness is the ru run defense is
not great, and maybe there's a little bit of a
path there for Denver and you know, Boat Necks can
use his legs a little bit, But I'm looking for
Buffalo to score a fair amount of points in this game.
You know, whether you're doing a teaser or going over
to the team total for Buffalo, I think those are
the best ways to play this game.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
So for those who are inclined to want to grab
the eight and a half, and I'm not one of them,
how much do you possibly factor? And I agree Denver's
defense is not great. They give up a lot of
points this year, but they did lead the NFL quarterback
sacks of sixty three and they're coach by a guy
who's forty and twenty five against the spread as a
career dog. Do you factor either of those two things in?

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And that Denver might might hang the number?

Speaker 3 (19:47):
Well, I mean I look at it, and you know,
I run my numbers, and I think I had this
thing at like eight point eight points, so kind of.

Speaker 5 (19:54):
Right where the line is.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
And that's that's my biggest indicator, right is you know,
just trusting the model and what the what it says
from a point spreads standpoint, and then just trying to
look at, you know, what do these teams look like against?
You know, maybe other similar teams. And in this case,
we have a very good Buffalo offense, and I can
see kind of what Denver's down on the road against.

Speaker 5 (20:14):
Other good offenses.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
And yes, they leave, you know, they're up there in
pressure and whatnot. But at the same time, Buffalo and
Josh Allen just aren't getting sacked either. I mean, it's
been a great year for Josh Allen, you know, like
you said, the low turnovers, which you know was not
his history in the finals. So they've done a great
job there and taking care of the ball.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
Let's talk about green Bay visiting Philadelphia. I see the
number now up to minus five. I actually played Philly
earlier in the week minus four and a half. I
feel very strong about this play. I like green Bay.
I do think they miss Christian Watson. They kind of
limp into the playoffs on the two game losing streak.
I honestly feel that Philadelphia is the most complete team

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in this tournament right now on paper. What are your
thoughts about green Bay catching five against Philadelphia?

Speaker 3 (21:02):
Yeah, you know, I'm a packer Van Bernie. You know that,
but him plenty of times and I have not met
this game. I worry though, like my player rating model,
which is very very good. It's not as reliable at
a home favorite, but it does show a pretty sizable
advantage for Philadelphia in this game.

Speaker 5 (21:21):
And you know, the Packers won't have j R.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
Alexander and they played for a long time without him,
and in some ways I can make the argument they're
better in a lot of ways without him, just they're
they're tougher against the run because he didn't really ever
want to stick his head in there and tackle people
and whatnot. But he was an elite corner and you know,
so they're going to struggle there a little bit. I think,
like you said, no, Christian Watson, maybe Bolth Meltain's got speed,

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you know, does something. They're not in great form for sure,
so I think it's going to be tough.

Speaker 5 (21:52):
Now, now, is there a path for green Bay?

Speaker 3 (21:54):
Sure, they get turnovers, they run the ball, they control
the clock, you know, they keep her in the.

Speaker 5 (22:00):
Pocket, they stuff the run.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
They do do a very good job this year of eliminating.

Speaker 5 (22:05):
Big pass places.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
They lead the league there and Love is struggled against
the blitz, but Philly doesn't blitz a lot. So again
there's your path to green Bay. But they're just not
in good form right now. And I don't know how
healthy Love is with that elbows as well. I know
he's off the injury report, both practice all this and that,
but I'm not sure they're either. And like you said,

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I think Philadelphie's a pretty elite team and they definitely
can go to the Super Bowl here and if I
did anything, I probably lay it, But right now I'm
not playing.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
The game well. I do think Green Bay is hurt
by the last Christian Watson. And what got me on
Philadelphia is they have the most improved defense in the NFL.
Number one in total yards, number one in passing yards,
number two and scoring defense. And it's tough to win
in that venue. I feel like Philly wins and covers,

(22:55):
but look, you still got to play the game rights.
These things are never easy, all right. Probably my and
I know I've got some people pushing back on me
on this, but probably my favorite game of the weekend
is Tampa Bay minus three. You brought up a great
point about strength to schedule heading into the Wildcard and

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it's one of the best predictors as you head into
the Wildcard tournament. If I'm not mistaken, maybe my research
isn't completely pristine, but I think Tampa Bay Bucks have
the number one strength to record of the teams in
the tournament right now, and they're facing the team again
with a rookie quarterback going on the road, Bucky Irvings

(23:39):
also becoming a good factor for Tampa Bay Your thoughts
on that.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
Matchup, Yeah, And you know, back to that strength of victory,
there's really four teams.

Speaker 5 (23:47):
In the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
You've mentioned three of them Charges, Deen Burg, Houston that
have very weak strengths of victories, and Washington the other one.
They played three teams on the road this year. They
lost their seventeen at Sampa. It was week one. That's
that's you know, a long ways away from today. But
they lost by seventeen at Tampa, by seven at Ball
the Moore in by eight at Philly. So you know,

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they haven't really showed that they can go on the
road and beat some playoff teams. Tampa is going to
get some of the people in the secondary back, Antoine
Winfield and a couple other people will be coming back
as well. You know, Tampa steps are run pretty well,
so I think they can control Washington there a little bit.
And Tampa can.

Speaker 5 (24:26):
Run the ball.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
Like you said, Bucky Errey has been a fantastic back
for him, and the Washington run defense isn't great. And
if you go back to twenty twenty when seven the
NFL went to seventeens in each conference in the playoffs,
below average defenses going down the road in this wild
card round are now all and six against the spread,
and Washington fits that mold as well. So you know,

(24:50):
if this would go to two and a half, I
would absolutely love Tampa Bay.

Speaker 5 (24:54):
Three is still okay.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
I do show a little value there, and you know,
I don't love laying points to Tampa Bay. The defense
isn't great, but they are getting some help there and
I just think, you know, right now, they're in a
better position than Washington. And like I said, Washington hasn't
beat a lot of good teams this year. I like
Tampa Bay in this game.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Yeah, And to piggyback on what you were saying, Washington's
defense is the lowest ranked defense of any playoff team
in this tournament. And I really like what Liam Cohen's
done with Baker Mayfield in those route trees I thought about.
I did lay the three, and I know that you know,
if they win by a three, that's a push, or
they win by two. If I got two and a half,
it's a win. I'm not as concerned because it only

(25:35):
lands on three about fourteen percent of the time. But
I feel like this is a ten point victory for
Tampa Bay. I just I've seen too many rookie quarterbacks.
I don't care how good they are going the road
for a playoff game when they're in their inaugural season.
They don't look the same, right. I'm not wishing that
on Jayden Daniels. I think this Tampa Bay team is

(25:55):
pretty good, and they went into Detroit last year in
the playoffs, gave Detroit a real tussle. And uh, I
think they have enough seasoning UH and and and enough
veteran DNA on that team to understand uh the dynamic. Sunday,
I'm just a little baffled. Scott where the line is
only three. I know it all comes down to power
ratings and such, but does that does that? Do you

(26:18):
make that number three?

Speaker 3 (26:20):
I made it a little over four. And you know
what I love about Tampa Bay this year is that
they can run the ball. I mean, you remember those
years past the offensive a next week. They couldn't run
the ball. They couldn't gain a yard when they needed it.
But you know when you can run the ball like that,
and that's that's the play action. And now you got
those receivers. You know, they're set up very well, I think,
especially against this Washington defense, which is not great.

Speaker 5 (26:43):
So the fact that they.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
Can run it and then set everything else up for
their offense, I think that's huge. And they'll stop the
run as well, so you know they're at home. I think,
I think you know, and they, like I said, long
ways away back to Week one where they won thirty
seven to twenty doesn't really count, but right, but they
can win this game, all.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Right, A game I'm really looking forward to Monday night
for lots of obvious reasons. I may be in the
minority here, but when the line went to two and
a half, I grabbed the vikings. I think a couple things.
It's an overreaction to what they saw Sam Donald do
last Sunday night. In terms of the people who believe

(27:24):
the Rams, I'm not big on the Rams. You know,
Buffalo came into town what a month ago and the
Rams beating forty four to forty two Buffalo kind of
slept block. But since then the Rams only scored forty
four points total in their remaining three games. They don't
have anywhere near the past rush that the Lions had

(27:44):
last Sunday, which is what caused I think Sam Donald
to have the bad game. But there's a stat that
I just can't look past. The Vikings are fourteen to
zero outright, and eleven and two or eleven two and
one against the number when they hold appointment check that
the whole opponents to under thirty points in OZ three
when they don't. Can the Rams score thirty points against

(28:07):
his Vikings defense with a banged up Cooper Cup?

Speaker 3 (28:11):
Well, we'll see, you know, it's I'm going I'm not
playing the side. I did play the total, and I
am going over forty eight points here. They these two
played back in LA back in whatever it was week.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
Five weeks final. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
Thirty to twenty had the over that game, if memory
sergainly right, got a little lucky to get.

Speaker 5 (28:28):
To the over, you know eventually in that game.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
But I think the Rams can score some points Minnesota
on the road against good offenses.

Speaker 5 (28:37):
And this Rams team, like you.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
Said, they have struggled here the last few weeks. But
since they got everybody back, which was that Minnesota game,
they've they've been pretty decent. They're well above average throwing
the ball. They got Tyler Higbee back a couple of
weeks ago. So this Viking team when they went on
the road to Green Bay, they allowed twenty nine thirty
at the Rams back in the week eight thirty one
last week. That could have been worse, but to you know,

(29:01):
slowed it up a little bit because they were ahead
by so much. So I don't know who's gonna win
the game, but I do think the Rams can score.
I definitely think Minnesota can score. Rams have a little
bit of a pass rush, but this defense is, you know,
in my mind, really about average short of that pass rush,
and that pass rush really kind of comes on the
edges where the Vikings have a little bit of strength

(29:22):
on their offensive line, and the Vikings like to throw
the ball a lot, and you know, the Rams can
play a little bit of a slow tempo, but when
they get in a game like this where they're going
to have to score points, they they'll they'll speed it
up a little bit, especially if they feel like they
have to score. You know, they're not going to just
run the ball and eat quack like they would maybe
in a game that they had well.

Speaker 5 (29:43):
In control and they just want to get to the
end of the game. They know they're gonna have to
score here as well. So you know, my player ratings.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
Actually value Minnesota a little bit, and from the line
of scrimmage, those numbers actually value the Rams a little bit.
And then you know, I don't I don't know how
to factor. I'm not getting in any home field advantage.
But that's you know, this whole part of being on
a neutral field is a little weird as well. But
I feel best about the over in this game, and
right now I'm not doing eating with the side at all.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
All right, fair enough, it feels like you're gonna have
perfect conditions indoors in Glendale. It feels like with a
fast track there should be points. Do you expect the
Vikings bounce back offensively? Though? I think they'll show much
better Monday night than they showed Sunday night versus Detroit
Or is that just you know, you know, just kind

(30:31):
of shooting babes at the moon on that one.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
No, I think they will, And you know, the kind
of misnomer about that game, Darnald. They had people open
against Detroit.

Speaker 5 (30:41):
You know, Darnald of got spooked. You know, saw ghosts, right.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
You know that right, the whole thing from years ago, right,
you missed Jefferson actually street straight plays, you know in
the end zone there in that one drive. So they
had guys right, and and that was in Detroit in
that environment, which is not easy to play with. Jordan
Love based that same thing about a month ago. He
finally got himself under control.

Speaker 5 (31:03):
And Darnald never really did. But it's going to be
a different environment.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
They're well coached with Kevin O'Connell.

Speaker 5 (31:09):
I think he'll bump back.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
They got really good receivers and I don't think the
Rams and a neutral field, they're going to do the
same thing that the Lions to him as far as
spooking him and won that they'll.

Speaker 5 (31:19):
Be better prepared and they'll prepare for this.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
They just face that they're going to correct that and
they'll they'll get better prepared.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
One last footnote. This is Sean mcvay's twelfth playoff game
as a head coach, Kevin mco'connell's second, he's own one.
They lost to Daniel Jones a couple of years ago.
If you recall, uh, do you factor in coaching into
this game in terms of should you elect to fire
on the side come Monday? Because Sean McVay has been

(31:46):
there and as much as I left Kevin O'Connell. Of course,
coincidentally O'Connell was standing next to Sean McVay when they
won their Super Bowl. The coaching experience advantage that the
Rams might bring to the do bring to this game?
Do you factor that into your handicap?

Speaker 3 (32:01):
I mean he could and you know, you go back
a couple of years ago and they lost. That was
a team that won a ton of post games, which
they did this year. But you know they're they're net
point differential. I forget what it was, but let's just
call it.

Speaker 5 (32:11):
About even right they were.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
You know, they got lucky or fortunate if you if
you want, in a lot of games this year.

Speaker 5 (32:17):
Obviously it's a much better team.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
They've got a very good deep into whatnot. But I
will say, I mean Stafford's going to be prepared for
anything that Brian Flores throws at him. You know, obviously
McVay has been there a lot more, but O'Connell. You know,
he's made some mistakes on the sideline here recently too,
so you know, I haven't really factored that in, but
I would trust that they a little bit more in
a pressure moment than O'Connell. As much as I respect O'Connell,

(32:42):
think he's a great coach, but you know, you got
to see him a little bit more because he has
made some mistakes here in the last couple of weeks coaching.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Wrapping it up with Scott Kellen at sixth Sense Sports
on Twitter, recent winner of the Las Vegas view Journal
NFL Challenge. All Right, I brain cramped on this, but
I fixed it. I do not expect Denver to prevail
in Buffalo, which means, if we look ahead to next week,
let's assume that the Chiefs opening opponent will be the

(33:13):
aforementioned Houston Texans, and Baltimore will travel to Buffalo. As
Buffalo is the number two seed and the Ravens are
the number three seed. Let's just take a quick, super
quick look ahead and have a little fun. I feel
like the Chiefs would most likely be laying at least
seven to the Texans. That that sounds about right, and

(33:34):
Buffalo probably a field goal to the Ravens. I'm just
throwing that out their thoughts.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
I think you're probably right in the buffalo one the
Chiefs one. You know, I was talking to something else
earlier tonight and they laid three against Houston a few
weeks ago, which kind of blows my mind. You know,
I was saying, it's probably got to be at least
six points. I would think, Bernie, maybe seven. To your point,
they're coming off to buy and yeah, like I said,

(34:00):
I think you're white buffalo. That seem's got to be
sitting right around the field goal, you know, give or take.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
I just feel like the way the Chiefs have performed
forget Week seven eighteen against Denver, you throw that out,
but when you look at the three and oh stretch
in those eleven days, when the Chiefs really put it
together and they're getting players back, and they were scoring
thirty four points a game and winning by margin and
really clicking on all three cylinders, right, it just feels

(34:25):
like you got to put up a number where the books,
you know, could minimize risk, and you're going to have
to pay a Chief's tax, I feel if you're going
to ride them. So just a thought but would you
expect both home teams to prevail next week or do
you think Baltimore heads into Buffalo and steals it.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
You know, if I was getting we'll see what happens Tomile,
you know, but if I was getting three with Baltimore
at Buffalo, I would probably lean to take that three
two and a half.

Speaker 5 (34:53):
I probably wouldn't play it.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
And you know Kansas City they won that game twenty
seven to nineteen back on December twenty first.

Speaker 5 (35:01):
Just looking that up against Houston, I think I think
it's gonna be a very very tough matchup for Houston.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
You know, they're decimated, their offensive line is not good.
You know they protected today. But I think that's that's
gonna be a very very tough matchup. You know, they're
they're an average team as well. They were in the
right situation today at home play another average team. But
they're not going to be playing an average team next week.
I think I think they will. They will struggle next week.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
All right, great stuff as always, Scott, Good luck your
plays on Sunday.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
We'll talk soon, man, all right, Thanks Verdin enjoying the
game tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Thanks that is Scott Kellen follow him on Twitter at
sixth Sense Sports, recent winner of the Las Vegas Review
Journal NFL Handicapping Challenge. Coming up later in the show,
I'm going to rank the NFL openings, Which one do

(35:53):
I think is best? And ranked them all the way
to worst. And what's interesting, what I would consider to
be one of the more difficult jobs. All of a sudden,
you keep hearing this name. I don't know if I
buy it. There's one particular team that apparently has Ben
Johnson as a coveted candidate, and a lot of reputable

(36:16):
people say this is really picking up steam. I'll tell
you what I found out, but I'm not sure I
believe it. We'll tackle that coming up. I'm Bernie Fraddleworck
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Speaker 1 (36:33):
Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
All right, Back of the Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports
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taking up to three m Pacific, six am Eastern. Just
getting started, well, If there's one thing I know about
Mark Davis, she doesn't mind paying people to not work

(36:57):
for him. Except the four coaches now, which means they're
in the market for a coach, having relieved Antonio Pears
of his duties and Tom Telesco of his duties as well,
and names are emerging as to who potentially could be
the raiders next head coach. Steve Spagnolo currently the Chiefs
defensive coordinator. He's been facing the Raiders twice a year

(37:20):
for the last six years and he's earned his way
back into the mix. Pete Carroll, it's my understanding we'll
interview with the Raiders this week, and don't pooh pooh
this idea. This guy's been there, done that, five NFC
West titles, two NFC championships, won a Super Bowl, ten
playoff wins. Coach the Seahawks for fourteen years, won sixty

(37:42):
one percent of his games. The Raiders, I think need
somebody who's not learning on the job. But Aaron Glenn
is drawing attention as well. Glenn's currently the Lions defensive coordinator.
He's done a little bit of everything in the National
Football League is kind of a viable option. He was
a three time pro bowler with the New York Jets
as a player, and then of course he got his

(38:04):
feet wet with the assist being his coaching career a
few years ago with the Cleveland Browns, who was named
the lines defensive coordinator three years ago. And he has
produced a top unit in the league, no question, and
he is gonna get interviews, it's my understanding. He's he
either interviewed with the Raiders Friday or he's set to
interview with the Raiders this coming week. Which leaves the

(38:27):
one guy that appears to have emerged as the hot
guy that the Raiders have their eyes on, and that is,
of course, Ben Johnson. Ben Johnson is the moment's rage,
the thirty eight year old offensive coordinator genius for the
Detroit Lions. It appears that the presence of Tom Brady
is looming large, and Brady spent about an hour talking

(38:51):
to Ben Johnson, I think virtually give him an idea
what Vegas would be like. And a lot of very
reputable reporters saying that Ben Johnson is picking up way
more steam in league circles in the last couple of
days and Brady is out not recruiting Ben Johnson, Do
I know this to be true? I don't know. I
mean other guys have been mentioned as well, so we're

(39:13):
gonna have to watch it. Meanwhile, Ben Johnson is busy
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and we always close by saying you never know what
the news cycle will bring the following week, and it's uncanny,

(39:58):
but it always does. And this week it's a bit
more of a serious nature. So let's say this. It's
that time. Mark Medina, Medina Magic, our Fox Sports Radio
NBA guru comes to us every Saturday night at midnight
Pacific on the Bernie Frattle Show, Mark, good evening, how
are you.

Speaker 6 (40:18):
I'm hanging in. I wish we had more enjoyable storylines
to talk about the you know, the LA wildfire affect
in Laker and Clipper games. But here we are, all.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
Right, So look, we really can't bury the lead. You're
right there in southern California, and we both know that
the Lakers and Clippers game were both canceled Saturday night,
as they should have been. Even my show was preempted
last night as it should have been. People's safety and
well being is paramount, and you have limited resources. But Mark,

(40:51):
you're there in the belly of the beast. What can
you tell us about what's happening. Let's start at thirty
thousand feet and we'll descend into NBA talk.

Speaker 6 (40:59):
Yeah, the thirty thousand foot views that since Tuesday, there's
been a series of wildfires. The most notable one has
been in Pacific Palisades, but there's also been a few
others in the Woodland Hills in the Pasadena area and
the Pacific Palisades. One has been you know, really relentless.

(41:19):
And you know, there's a lot of notable NBA people
who have been affected. You know, JJ Reddick, the Lakers coach,
lost his rental home, and while it was a rental home,
you know, he had all his valuable family possessions there
with him. So he spoke after Laker practice on Friday,
just showing the whole gambit of emotions. You know, Steve Kerr,

(41:42):
his mom lost her home and that was his childhood home.
There are a few other Lakers staffers that lost her
home too, So it's been very you know, very hard
to really process all this. But I think JJ really
encapsulated all there in emotion. As I mentioned, he talked
about the loss of his home, but he also talked

(42:04):
about the perspective of you know, him knowing that you know,
he's going to be relatively in a better position, but
he wants to use this platform to try to help
others and we'll see what happens. And he also made
it clear that he wants to be able to coach
an NBA game soon because this is have a nice
escape for him and a safe haven because it's been
a very tough week.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
Mark, I want to I have a couple of quick
questions about JJ Redick in his comments, But can you
tell us to what degree do they have the palisades
of fire under control. I've heard eleven percent. I don't
even know it. I don't even know how to begin
this conversation.

Speaker 6 (42:43):
So yeah, tell what you Yeah, from what I read,
you know, it's eleven percent. So that's it's a ways
to go. They're thankfully some of the wind died down,
but they're expecting the win to pick back up. And uh,
you know, from again what I read, fire officials are
remaining in you know, weather walks through Wednesday. So many

(43:07):
idea that this is going to subside. Now it's it's
just not happening. And you know, as it pertains the NBA,
I know that's not the most important thing, but when
we're talking about rescheduling games with the Lakers and Clippers,
you know, the Lakers obviously have hope that they can
play San Antonio Monday, Miami Wednesday, Brooklyn Friday. I mean,

(43:27):
the Clippers even said their statement that you know, they
expect to play games against the Heat on Monday the
Nets on Wednesday. But if you're connecting the dots, I
just don't see it happening. And you know, nothing's been
necessarily determined. But the NBA so far have waited un
sot either the night before the morning of officially announced

(43:50):
that a game's postpone. So you know, it presents a
lot of logistical challenges scheduling nightmares. But the point that
you made, not only does it look bad, but I
think from a pragmatic practical standpoint, they don't want to
take away resources that can be you know, that can
be used for wildfire or release efforts, or response efforts

(44:11):
in terms of law enforcements, paramedics, you know, also just
traffic congestion. So yeah, I would be surprised we see
any LA games this week, but I guess you never know.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
I thought JJ Riddick was poignant. He was very hart
felt in his comments and went so far as to
say he would like to see the games get back
on the floor. In a sense, they give people hope
and they provide a diversion. And so you basically answered
the next question I was going to ask, and that is,
even though there are three games on the doctor for

(44:44):
the Lakers this week, you would be your assertion that
it's unlikely they play any of them. Is that fair
or am I looking too far ahead?

Speaker 1 (44:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (44:52):
I mean, look, this is all day to day and
it's fluid.

Speaker 5 (44:55):
But this is this is just.

Speaker 6 (44:56):
Me connecting the dots. This isn't anyone in the NBA
or the Lake with Floppers saying these things. It's just
me connecting the dots. And as much as JJ Reddick said, yeah,
I would like to coach a game, he wanted to coach,
you know, the game that will schedule for Saturday against Antonio,
he also said that, you know, we want to do
everything we can within the safety parameters of what's going

(45:19):
on in the city. So yeah, I mean, his wishes
our secondary. I think he's obviously more concerned about the
issue at large, but just from a competitive standpoint, and
also the fact that you know, this is a nice
outlets for him. He'd want to hit the ground running,
but obviously he understands he can't. But it was fascinating,

(45:39):
I shouldn't say fascinating. It was just very revealing to
see how much even a practice that the Lakers had
on a Friday minton. You know, you're you're talking about
a coach who's played a lot of games as a
professional athlete and this is part of the routine. But
this really encapsulates how even this kind of day to
day thing can give a lot of people meeting during

(46:02):
a tough moment, and we shouldn't take that lightly. Even
though you know they're multi millionaire coaches and players, so
they view this profession as something that can help him
through rough times.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
I do think there's samarit though to what JJ Reddick said,
at some point, people do need that diversion. Allow me
a little latitude. We're going to go off the rails
a little bit here. Right after nine to one one,
ten days he didn't play Major League baseball, and Keith
Oberman tells his story. He finally went out to walk
the streets the day that Major League Baseball was going

(46:36):
to resume, and he came across an officer who recognized
him and said that, Keith, you think we're going to
be all right? And Keith goes, look around, man, I
don't know, and he goes, no, no, Keith, I'm talking about
the Mets. The Mets had. The Mets had a great
winning streak before nine one one, and I'm concerned if
they're going to lose momentum. And Oberman looked at him
and says, officer, how could that possibly matter? He said,

(46:59):
Keith I'm not stupid. I know the names. The games
don't matter. However, I get off my ten hour shift,
I go home tonight, I got my spot marked out
on the couch. I'm going to watch the Mets and
for three hours I can give myself a mental rest
and pretend that the games really do matter. So what
these athletes do, they do provide a service. I do

(47:20):
think they're samaric to what JJ Redick.

Speaker 6 (47:23):
Said, Yeah, without a doubt. And look, you hit on
a great note. And these aren't mutually exclusive. I think
this specific tragedy with the wildfire provides a new wrinkle
that's still ongoing. And so I think that's that's the
challenge here. You've also add in the fact that there
are a lot of people that are personally affected. Take

(47:43):
JJ Reddick. You know, so far, as far as I know,
Kawhi Leonard hasn't lost his home, but he has a
place of Pacific Palaces. Lebron James is a place in Brentwood,
and you know that place, you know, Brentwood is now
under some concern on whether they'll, you know, have the
Pacific Palacid fire spread in that area. But I think,
you know, there's the personal but also it's just the

(48:05):
fact that it's still ongoing. They don't want to compromise
the relief efforts. To your point about this being a
really good thing to rally the community without a doubt,
but after the fact. So once the fire is, you know, eliminated,
and now they start to slow painful but necessary steps
toward rebuilding, a small part of that, but a significant

(48:28):
part of that will be about having sports come back.
So I'm with you one hundred percent. These things don't
have to be mutually exclusive. It's just a timing issue
at this point.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
By the way, it's my understanding the Clippers are on
the road when these fires really got serious, and it's
my understanding Kawhi Leonard left the team, didn't even play
the game and came back home.

Speaker 6 (48:55):
Yeah, and we're going to have more answers, not just
on Kawhi, but really the team is felt because they
are scheduled to practice on Sunday at into a dome
in Inglewood, and look, the practices are much different than
games because you don't have to worry about another opponent,
traffic congestion where we're talking about law enforce and paramedics,
and into a dome and inglewood that's not close to fires.

(49:18):
But it's going to be meaningful for the Clippers to gather.
But it's also going to be meaningful for us that
we'll get some answers to these questions on how are
yellas affected, where things stand, and where they go from here.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
All right, let's at least hit a couple of NBA
points headlines. As it were, we talked at length about
Jimmy Butler last week. At least in the last week,
it doesn't appear in Miami's any closer to finding someone
a dance partner that would take them off their hands,
and it's looking more and more likely that there's not

(49:53):
going to be a deal before the February sixth trade deadline.
Plus Butler wants a contact extension that doesn't help matters.
What's the end game here as we stand on January twelfth.

Speaker 6 (50:08):
Yeah, I think the endgame is saying who blinks first,
Jimmy Butler or pat Riley, And those are people that
don't blink a lot. So I think, if I had
a guess, I think Jimmy Butler actually stays with the
heat pass the trade deadline, which is February sixth, now
the fact that nothing has happened yet. You know, people
always operate on deadlines, are still about three weeks away,

(50:29):
but the math just doesn't add up. Jimmy Butler wants
to be traded, but he also doesn't want to be
trade just any team. He basically wants to be traded
with Phoenix Suns, but the Phoenix Suns don't have anything
to give up unless it's Bradley Beal, but he has
his own issues with his injuries, his large contract, and
the Miami Heat would much rather have cap flexibility next

(50:51):
season than taking on another contract, especially someone who hasn't
had great durability history. So pat Riley has made it
known publicly he'll listen to trade offers, he's just not
going to find any that suits his expectations, and what
his expectations are is that they're still a competitive playoff team.

(51:14):
I think with Jimmy Butler, he's going to be upset,
but the reality is he can make fifty two million
dollars by exercising player option this upcoming summer, even though
he's had a lot of injuries this past season or
in last season as well. So I think that cooler

(51:35):
heads will prevail, not because they suddenly have this kinship.
But this is the best option available and that they'll
get through the season together and then they'll see what
happens in the summer. But if I'm Jimmy Butler, there's
no better option than to literally exercise this flatter option
because the markets are not going to be there for
him to get the equivalent of fifty two million dollars.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
Tal with Mark Mdein and Medina Manager Fox Sports Radio
NBA Guru every Saturday night, twelve midnight Pacific on the
Bernie Frattle Show. Mark in the summer at twenty nineteen,
it's one of the last years I covered the NBA
Summer League. I saw Zion Williamson. I'm close and personal
thought he had a chance to be an absolute transcendent

(52:18):
player because of his physical abilities. Recently missed twenty seven
games with the hamstring issue. Returns Tuesday, scores of you know,
twenty two points, but they lose and then he misses
a team flight and he's suspended a game. All right,
I gotta ask you, is it time for the Pelicans
to move off of Zion Williamson and perhaps try to

(52:42):
get some trade value. Why they can? They're going nowhere
fast or way under five hundred. This just hasn't worked
out your.

Speaker 6 (52:48):
Thoughts, Yeah, it's always under the guise of what would
the deal look like. But I think as far as
how they feel about Zion Williamson, yes, I think that
they have to entertain that because it's not just about
Dion Williamson's injury history that's bad enough, but just how
he is as a professional. And all I can say

(53:09):
is when I talk to people in the Pelicans organization,
they always go to bat form, whether it's people behind
the scenes or teammates on the record, they always talk
about how he's had such an improved work ethic and
he's early gained after behind the scenes, but there's always
all these other things that suggest otherwise, and for him
to miss the team flight, it's just unacceptable, and unfortunately,

(53:34):
this is one of many examples. I remember when CJ.
McCollum was trade as the Pelicans, it took some time
for Dan to actually even reach out to J like
that's just a very standard normal thing. And I think
it was telling that JJ Reddick, then as an ESPN analyst,
called out Zion and his words meant a lot, not

(53:56):
just because JJ's a former NBA player, but he's one
of Zion's former teammates, and so yeah, if I'm the Pelicans,
I think, you know what, it's not worth the hassle. Again,
it has to be the right deal. You can't just
trade Zion for scrap and sheet metal. But if you
have a collection of talent and draft picks, I think

(54:17):
they have to think long and hard about this. Because
it's in the same old story every single season.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
I think it's becoming a huge distraction. We're talking, you know.
Bran Stricky once said, we finished last with you, we
can finish last without you. The Pelicans have won eight
games this year. Yeah, I mean, my goodness, they're eight
and thirty one. So it's all right. Last thing, Mark,
I'm surprised this hasn't been a little bit more of
a story. We got to follow this, you know, break up.
The Detroit Pistons eight and two in their last ten.

(54:45):
They've won the same number of games as the Los
Angeles Lakers, and the coaching change seems to have worked.
Absolute one. As we talk about the great job Kenny
Atkinson is doing in Cleveland, but the new coach in Detroit,
I mean, can you attribute Detroit's success to because clearly

(55:06):
they're dramatically improved over last year.

Speaker 6 (55:09):
Well, yeah, Jamie Vicker Seph has really had an impact
on the group. It's about there's a lot of seriousness
to it. But I think Kate Cunningham has taken his
game to another level. But they have a lot of good,
mature young players of Jane and Ivy, Malik Beasley. I
talked with Malik Beasley a few weeks ago and he
was talking about as him he has set up what

(55:33):
he calls the Breakfast Club where he does a lot
of off or not off season, but you know, workouts
before shoot around and practices early in the morning. And
he does it by himself, but a lot of the
other players have followed suit with him, and I think
it's been a complete attitude adjustment, where last year was
this guy trying to, you know, get their own numbers

(55:54):
and hunt for things. Mattie Williams is a proven coach,
but clearly he didn't have a sense of structure with
the team. It's a complete opposite here.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
JB.

Speaker 6 (56:04):
Bickerstaff is very well respected. The team likes each other,
They get team dinners, they hang out, they practice hard,
They compete hard, and then from next As an o standpoint,
the league, Busy's a great three point shooter, Kate Cunningham
is a consistent score They've been a lot more improved offensively,

(56:25):
and they also have high expectations of themselves that it's
not just about Okay, can they be a playoff team?
They do think that, but they're also thinking about wanting
to make an oiste beyond the first round. Look, when
I'm looking at the Eastern Conference landscape, I think it's
Cleveland Boston at the end of the day for obvious reasons.
But yeah, you have the first round, the second round

(56:46):
to play, and I could see Detroit being a tough
outum out of the round.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
Well, it's the season end today, they're in the playing tournament,
So yeah, that's quite an accomplishment to that end lasting
at this time next week when weckets, it's entirely possible
the Lakers will have missed six games. What contingency plans
does the NBA have to make those games up or
will they? Considering the Lakers are going to be in

(57:12):
the throws of another battle, it appears to me in
the playing.

Speaker 6 (57:16):
Round, well, they have to make up the games because
it's not equitable for every other team, and obviously that
Lakers and Clippers have revenue reasons don't want to have
these games. It's going to be It's not similar to
the pandemic and the bubble, because that was a whole
set of problems. That's the same philosophy. The NBA is
choosing the best of that option. So part of that

(57:37):
is just how this fire plays out. Ideally, they play
in their home markets because fans from both the Lakers
and Clippers locally want to be able to go to
the games. The Lakers and Clippers plan to honor you know,
those tickets that were bought, and considering what happened with
the fire, this is to your point, going to be

(57:57):
a nice way to galvin I as the community. But
you know, I wouldn't rule out that they have at
a neutral site, you know, maybe in Vegas, maybe in
San Diego, just so they can complete the games. But
that's not ideal because for the fans I bought to
take us, even though they're honor, now they have to
take a flight or take a long commute, and not

(58:18):
all of them will be able to do that. Obviously,
they have the home court ramifications or lack thereof, but
you got to complete the games at some point. The
longer way it's, the more complicated it can.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
I know they'll play the games. I didn't pose the
question properly, but if you have to make up let's
just say six games and they're bunched up, it seems
like that creates a bit of a competitive disadvantage when
you know Lebron isn't getting any younger. And I've often
argued that, while I take nothing away from the Lakers

(58:52):
winning in the Bubble, they didn't have to travel for
two months and got to lick their wounds, and they
didn't have to travel during the playoffs, so that mattered
to me. Not all rest is created equal when it
comes to age and relative health of players. So think
about that aspect of it. The logistics of having to
squeeze in six more games, maybe in March or April,

(59:13):
at the time when they really need their rest and
they need to win those games.

Speaker 6 (59:17):
Yeah, And I mean they're not going to ply them
back to back to back to back, but it's going
to be a scheduling crunch regardless. And right now, you know,
it's been obviously very tough for both teams because of
what's going on with Fire, but purely from a basketball standpoint,
they've had time to rest, recouper rate, get some practice
time in. But it's going to be the complete opposite

(59:39):
once they complete these teams. The only thing that makes this,
you know, relatively more manageable than otherwise is the fact
that the San Antonio Spurs and Charlot Hornets were slay
to play the Lakers and the Clippers all on the
same trip. So maybe because of that they can ensure
both a visiting teams are in that way for a
little bit of time. But at the same time, both

(01:00:02):
the Spurs and the Horns have the rest of their
schedule to have to play both on the road and
at home. So I'm just cloud. I'm not, you know,
working with any of the venues, and I'm the cloud.
I'm not working with the league office, with the gurus
that handle these schedules, because this just seems like a
puzzle that can never be properly solved.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
All right, great stuff, as always, Mark, get some rest, buddy,
we'll talk. We'll talk in seven days.

Speaker 6 (01:00:29):
All right, sounds good. Hopefully it's about.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
Basketball, yes, mart Medina, Medina Magic Every Saturday night, twelve
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(01:00:51):
especially after March manage. We like to cover the stories
as they happen. Speaking of stories as well, you're going
to hear more and more of it day by day.
The coaching carousel alive and kicking of the six openings,
and it looks like Mike McCarthy is negotiating with the
Cowboys to be retained. So it looks like to be

(01:01:13):
six openings. Which ones do I think of the best
and what about the other ones? Well, I'll share my
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are coming to line from the Las Vegas Foxsports Radio
Tyraq dot com studios. Take you up to three am Pacific,
six am Eastern. As you know, there are currently six
openings in the National Football League. We are told that
Mike Vrabel is honing in on being the Patriots next coach,

(01:01:58):
and it looks like Mike McCarthy is in earnest negotiations
with Jerry Jones to come back, and hell, why not.
That's that's a very Jerry Jones esque thing to do.
Apparently doesn't care if he ever wins enough Super Bowl.
Nothing against Mike McCarthy twelve and five, twelve and five,
twelve and five, and then this year. Okay, you get
where I'm going with that. Whatever, have fun, enjoy your day.

(01:02:19):
Which jobs are the best? I know this is highly subjective,
but you know which job I think might be the best?
The Bears Chicago. Okay, you got a quarterback and you could.
I think it's fair to say. He's a promising young quarterback,
and he's on a rookie contract, and he's on a

(01:02:41):
roster that has some talent. And I think Caleb Williams
showed me a lot more than Justin Fields ever did,
who remains fourteen and thirty as a starter and is
a glorified college version of an option to read only quarterback.
Caleb Williams showed me something a little different. I'm not
a huge fan, but he if you go there, you're

(01:03:04):
not worried about getting a quarterback. Now, there's some other
things to take into consideration. The NFC North is brutal,
but even though Chicago was one in five in their
divisional games, they were a lot more competitive than that
divisional record shows they had. You know, they lost three

(01:03:26):
games to there are three teams in the playoffs. Detroit, Minnesota,
and Green Bay lost to those three teams by combined
five points plus. If you're in the mood to spend money,
the Bears have eighty million in cap space, and we'll
gain an additional twelve and a half million if they
end up cutting Cole Comet and jerre Le Everett. Now,

(01:03:49):
most of that money I think needs to be used
to you know, their the glaring weakness is their offense
and defensive lines. But they've got the tenth pick overall,
and they got s got a draft capital. Right. The
problem is there may be some instability if they retain
Ryan Poles, which it looks like they are. If you're

(01:04:10):
hired there and a new GM comes in you know,
it's fair to wonder what's my future if the GM
who hires me is gone. And I don't really know
what the hell the Bears look are looking for. I
don't know if they know what they're looking for. They
requested interviews with fourteen candidates, and I understand the rationale.

(01:04:31):
You know, they want guys on the defensive side, guys
on the offensive side, Guys who've been head coaches, guys
who've never been head coaches. You know, guys who like,
you know, eggs and their beer. I don't know whatever.
I either overthinking this part of it. They're talking to
Pete Carroll, I know people talk about his age. Look,
you can either do the job, but you can I'm

(01:04:52):
not really sure why they're talking to Matt Campbell from
Iowa State. So I think they're overthinking it. But the
job itself with the capspace the quarterback on a rookie contract,
a roster that's not terrible, and in great city Chicago
and can be Can you imagine how much of the
toast of the town you'd be if you were to
resurrect the Bears and get them back into the national

(01:05:16):
conversation and get them to an Yeah, an NFC Championship game. Yeah,
it'd be good. I'll tell you another job I think's good. Laugh,
clown laugh. The New England Patriots. Yeah, they were four
and thirteen, and I know they have a beat reporter
by the name of Chad Graff who said the roster

(01:05:36):
is among the worst in the league. He may not
be wrong. But see if I'm on my way to
be a head coach and I'm going to be an optimist,
I'm going to be an optimist. And you say to yourself,
all right, I'm taking over a team that's probably got
the worst offensive line. I've taken over a team that's

(01:05:57):
probably got the least talented skill position group. We can
only go up. It's an opportunity to reshape things in
the way that you see fit. You've got a blank
canvas to genuinely build something there. Now they have a
stable owner and Robert Kraft, although he's not always you know,

(01:06:21):
he's not always lenient when it comes to spending cash.
And you still got high expectations in New England, even
though the dates of the Tom Brady, Bill Belichick are
long gone. But you've kind of got a middling AFC East.
The Jets are going nowhere fast. The Dolphins can't get
out of their own way. Buffalo's damn good. But you know,
he get fourteen seven teams go to the playoffs, and

(01:06:41):
they have some talent, and they also have a quarterback
that's important, drake Man or rookie year. And they have
a cornerback out of a house, you know, Christian Zales.
They have a way above average defensive tackle, Christian Barnmore. Okay,
not a lot to say after that. But if you

(01:07:02):
can be the architect of a team in New England
where you've got a quarterback, I think I think it's
a good job. It's it's you got to overhaul the
whole thing. But remember New England's got the fourth pick,
and they got three. They got four picks in the
top seventy seven four picks, and I buried the lead.

(01:07:26):
Nobody has more cap space than New England. If they
want to, they can spend one hundred and twenty four
million dollars in cap space and they don't need to
buy a quarterback. They've got a quarterback on a rookie deal.
That's my understanding. Eric Glynn is interviewed. I don't think
he'll get the job Ben Johnson. I know, I think
there's less than zero chance Ben Johnson goes there. It

(01:07:47):
looks like it's going to be Mike Vrabel. You know,
a legend in New England, a former linebacker. You get
the drill and he had some good years in Tennessee
not learning on the job. Another NFL job that I
think is actually pretty good. Now, remember there are only

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thirty two of these jobs in the entire world. All
the world can offer you is opportunity. All the NFL
can offer you is opportunity. What you do with it
is up to you. Wasn't that long ago that Cam
Newton and the Carolina Panthers took over a one in
fifteen team got to the super Bowl in a couple
of years. Things can turn around fast if you have

(01:08:32):
the right roster and the right leadership. Now the Jaguars,
these are the positives. They're in the AFC South for
the last three years. You win nine games or ten games,
that's good enough to win the damn division by the way.
The Jags won it one year. They also have I
think enough young talent and critical positions to me that

(01:08:54):
it feels like they've underachieved. I don't know what the
dealers with Trevor Lawrence. Somebody just hasn't gotten the best
out of him on a consistent basis yet. But how
about the wide receiver stud Brian Thomas, how about Walker Little?
They got an EDG Dresser and Josh Heines Allen and
another one in Trayvon Walker and those guys are locked
up for years, and they got the fifth overall pick

(01:09:15):
this year. Plus, Unlike Robert Kraft, shot Con has a
willingness to spend cash and only spent twelve million on
Urban Meyra. What'd that get him? The Jags are third
in the league in active spending, right behind the Eagles.

(01:09:35):
And oh, by the way, Jacksonville in a bad place
to live. You got nice weather and you get to
go to London every year for free. Okay, I kid,
because I care. There are also some negatives there, but
that's what happens. They see. And let's like, see Andy
Reid retires this year, you're going to be taking over
a franchise. It's not done well, that's just the way
it works. That's how these opportunities emerge. People typically don't

(01:09:59):
change their coach for the all of it unless he retires,
So You're going to be taking over a franchise that's
been moribund for more than just a little while, right,
and they're going to be questions. Even though Trevor Lawrence
is only twenty five years old, it feels like he's
been the league forever. He's got a fifty five million
dollar per season contract and frankly, Jacksonville doesn't exactly get

(01:10:25):
after the other team's quarterback very well. The other problem
you're going to have is you only have thirty six
million in cap space, but if they cut Christian Kirk
and Josh Reynolds, you can find yourself another twenty million.
They're also appearing to bring back general manager Trent Balkey,
although again you hear the whispers blown in the wind

(01:10:47):
that if that happens, it diminishes interest in the job.
But if you think about it again, all these jobs
have challenges, but the ones I just mentioned you've got
Trevor Lawrence, Caleb Williams, Drake May and each in their
own right, whether it's the division are in or the
cap space or the draft capital, you have an opportunity.

(01:11:10):
And then there are the other jobs, and I'm going
to talk about those coming up. Remember there are only
thirty two jobs in the NFL period in the whole world.
Looks like they're about six this year that are looking
for coaches. And I won't count Dallas because it looks
like Dallas is going to lock up Mike McCarthy, that's
my guess. But I'll talk about these other jobs. By

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delve into the remaining three jobs. These ones are going
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Com studios here at Las Vegas. We are in the
throes of the coaching carousel, talked about three potential jobs
I think aren't bad Patriots Bears and Jacksonville Jaguars, and
then the other three. I'm gonna start with the Raiders
right here in Las Vegas. I know they're honing in
on Ben Johnson. Will that happen? I have no idea

(01:12:35):
it will be head coach number six of the Mark
Davis tenure. And it's not gonna be Bill Belichick. Even
though Tom Brady, I think, tried to make that happen.
Still there's some selling points. Even though Tom Telesco's gone,
he brought in Brock Bowers, he brought in Guard Jackson,
Powers Johnson, those were good prospects. The Raiders have the

(01:12:56):
league's third youngest roster, and they can add youth. They
got the number six pick and an extra third rounder
thanks to the DeVante Adams trade. They have a couple
of foundational players and Christian Wilkins and Max Crosby. Max
Crosby says he wants to stay here, but who knows.
He doesn't have any more guaranteed money. We shall see
what we shall see. But the Raiders also have the

(01:13:19):
second most camp space one hundred and seven million dollars
and a city that people want to be in, so
free agents like coming here. But there's some critical negatives
as well, primarily the fact that Las Vegas quarterbacks produce
the worst twenty twenty four passer rating of any team
on all six openings in the NFL. I don't know

(01:13:40):
how they improve that either. Plus, you're in a major
disadvantage because you're in the same division with Patrick Mahomes,
Bownix and Justin Herbert. The Raiders need a running back.
Will they let Josh Jacobs out of town? Why would
you do that? Wide receiver? No one gives a damn
about Devonty Adams. With the cornerbacks, guard, safeties, line not good,

(01:14:01):
they need help everywhere. So it's a tough gig. But
again it's opportunity. It's a National Football League man, Saints,
I don't know if this is a good job. I
don't know. New Orleans has some good draws. They have
an owner always willing to spend, which is not always

(01:14:23):
a case in every city. Again, they're in a very
winnable NFC South, and the Saints actually have six picks
in the first four rounds, including the number nine overall selection,
but there's some serious downsides. You got the incredibly mediocre
Derek Carr, who proved his sixty three and seventy nine

(01:14:44):
record as a starter with the Raiders. There was no
Fluke played only ten games in twenty twenty four, tweets
out we're all gonna be laughing at you when you
make the playoffs. Maybe you should have done that. He's
also got a no trade clause, and Derek Carr refuses
to take a pay cut on a contract that could
actually be restructured to save thirty million, but it would
mean you'd lock him in a starting the next two seasons.

(01:15:05):
That's not good. I'm not sure if Fencer Ratner is
a major quarterback. They do have some veteran talent, Markshawn
Lattimore their cornerback, but he was traded a couple of
offensive linemen that are expected to retire. They're getting old
Cameron Jordan, Alvin Kamara didn't get any younger. And look
they've got other guys Chris Olave and Koolaid McKinstry. They're questionable.

(01:15:29):
They're questionable at this point. Mickey Loomis, who's been there
even before the Super Bowl years he's got a salary
cap situation. It's infamous. I mean, they're the exact opposite
of the teams I mentioned. They're a league worse, fifty
million dollars over the cap, twice as bad as even
the Browns. It's a mess. It'll take years to recover from.

(01:15:50):
But look, you want a job in the NFL, they're open. Finally,
the New York Jets. You would think this would really
be an attractive job for reasons that you didn't even
have to mention an attractive free agent market based on
the city. The roster's got some young talent, Arret Wilson,

(01:16:12):
Breice Hall, will McDonald, Quinn Williams. All they needed was
the quarterback, right, that's what you told us. There's also
the number seven draft pick. You're in a division with
winnable games. You got a chance, and you know you
got a situation now where you come in as head coach.
Maybe you come in as in lockstep because they're also

(01:16:33):
hiring a GM also, right, But there's also other questions
that are yet to be answered. What the hell exactly
is the future of Aaron Rodgers right Doturn? Does they return?
There have been players on the inside that cover. The
New York Jets smarter than I am that say they
would not be surprised if Aaron Rodgers returns. If Aaron

(01:16:58):
Rodgers is on the roster after in first and they
cut them, the Jets will save about another ten million
in cap space. The Jets don't have a lot of
cap room, just twenty nine million dollars. And uh, Breece
Wilson and you know Wilson Hall, Sauce Gardner, Jermaine Johnson,
they're all eligible for extensions. And you know Davante Adams,

(01:17:25):
he's a thirty eight million dollar cap hit. Why would
you even consider bringing him back for any reason? But
if you do, you're gonna have to rework the contract.
But the larger thing is, it's just been clearly, it's
been pointed out, it's been beat to death. There appears
to be one hell of a lot of organizational disfunction,
which has to be the most crucial worry. Right when

(01:17:49):
you hear that Woody Johnson is, you know, following his
decision making advice from his teenage sons in site of
the John Madden ratings when evaluating players. That stuff's got
to make your teeth ititch I wouldn't mind seeing Rex
Ryan get the job, But I just don't think you will.
I don't know why. I just can't. I can't give

(01:18:10):
you a reason. I just don't think you will. I
think he wants it, and you know that in and
of itself alone should be worth the price of admission.
But at the end of the day, the Patriots, the Bears,
and the Jaguars, those aren't bad opportunities. The Raiders, the Saints,

(01:18:32):
and the Jets. You gotta think long and hard about
what your future might be. And you're not worried about
the way in. You're worried about the way out because
there's just tremendous lack of stability and many questions coming up.
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(01:19:16):
should be well. While fourteen teams well actually to win
home Saturday, are in the NFL playoffs, sixteen teams are not,
and six are looking for new coaches. In the seventh
the Dallas Cowboys appear to be reuniting peaches in her

(01:19:39):
with Mike McCarthy, even though it's not officially done yet.
We shall see what we shall see, And of course
there are rumors after the January fourteenth, which is Tuesday,
when McCarthy's contract expires, these freed act doctor other teams,
and I've told other teams to talk to them. But
getting off topic, Kevin O'Connell, who's done a phenomenal job

(01:20:02):
with the Minnesota Vikings in every aspect, and it clearly
did a phenomenal job with the Los Angeles Rams as
Sean mcvay's right hand man is offensive coidinator during their
Super Bowl winning season. My understanding, an unnamed NFL team
reached out offering to trade for the coach. And to
the great unwashed, you may say, well, you want to

(01:20:22):
can't trade for our coach, Well, you most certainly can.
Now we get it. NFL trades involving draft picks and
players are common, but trading for coaches head coaches rare.
But man, when it happens, it happens. First of deal. First, look,
here's the situation. It is absolutely within NFL rules to

(01:20:46):
trade coaches. The procedure. What it involves is the coach
and their current team trading his rights to a prospective
team that's interested in hiring them. Once the trades complete,
then the coach asked to negotiate a new contract with
the team they were acquired by. Now, this type of

(01:21:07):
coach trade is complicated to pull off because it very
much requires a coach being interested in a move and
that their current team is open to trading them to
what's likely going to be in some manner or rival.
And then the dance partner has to be willing to
exchange assets, which is usually draft picks, in order to

(01:21:28):
acquire a said coach. But what do you hear? These names?
Can't make it up done my research and by the way,
you know, Kevin O'Connell basically said this is where I
want to be, so that Kyle botches it right there.
But there are eight well known head coach trades in
NFL history? And what do you hear these names? I

(01:21:52):
know I just said that fifty times. The first time
this happens all the way back in nineteen seventy, Who
was involved the legend? Don Shula? Don Shula, Don Shula.
The Miami Dolphins traded a first round pick to the

(01:22:13):
Baltimore Colts to get Don Shula in nineteen seventy. How'd
that work out? You tell me? Sula not only helped
Miami win two Super Bowls and seventy two and seventy
three back to back, Don Shula presided over the only
perfect season in National Football League history seventeen oh to oh,

(01:22:38):
the one. The late great Mercury Morris, you know, spent
the rest of his life parading around every time a
team would lose, you know, they'd crack open a bottle
of champagne. That was Don Shula. Now, after nineteen seventy,
this didn't happen again for another twenty seven years. Fast

(01:22:59):
forward to nineteen ninety seven. The name of the coach
involved in the trade, this time Bill Parcells. What was
the compensation? The New York Jets traded first, second, third,
and fourth round picks to the New England Patriots for

(01:23:21):
their right to acquire Bill Parcells. How did Parcels do?
He was there three seasons. He took the Jets to
the playoffs once they the year they got to the playoffs,
though they lost in the AFC Championship game in nineteen
ninety eight. Can you imagine that Don Shula and Bill

(01:23:42):
Parcells were traded? Two years later, it happened again. And
this is a name again. This ain't no ham and Anger.
Mike Holmgrin was involved in the trade. What was the
compensation the Seattle Seahawks. They traded second round pick to
the Green Bay Packers for the right to get Mike Holmgren.

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And remember Holmgren had just won a Super Bowl two
years earlier in Green Bay beating the New England Patriots.
Holmgren gets to Seattle. Seattle made the playoffs six times
under Mike Holmgren, including the appearance Super Bowl appearance in

(01:24:25):
Super Bowl forty two thousand and six, a game I
covered at Ford Field when they lost to the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Don Sula, Bill Parcells, Mike Holmgren. Now fast new seatbelt
on this one. Don't drive off the road. The very
next year, there was another coaching trade. Who was involved
this time? Wait for it, Bill Belichick. Yes, Bill Belichick

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was involved in a trade. The New England Patriots traded
a first, fourth, and fifth round pick to the je
it's member. Belichick was only there a day or two
in New York. And how did it work out? Well?
Belichick spent twenty three seasons in New England, Oh nothing,
only won six Super Bowls. Bill Belichick, Mike Combran, Bill Parcells,

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Don Shula. Here's another name. I know you've heard this name.
Two years later, in two thousand and two, John Gruden
was a coach involved in a trade. Again the compensation,
The Tampa Bay Buccaneers traded two first round picks and

(01:25:38):
eight million dollars in cash to the Oakland Raiders for
the right to obtain John Gruden. How did that work out?
Gruden won the Super Bowl in Tampa Bay. I think
with Tony Dungee's players, to be fair, won the Super
Bowl in Tampa Bay his very first season. He led

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the Bucks and hung around about six years before departing
in two thousand and eight. Took four more years for
another coach to be involved. And I'm sure you remember
this guy as well. You played to win the game.
I see him on TV now offering his punditry. The

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Kansas City Chiefs traded a fourth round pick to the
New York Jets for the right to get HERM Edwards.
Edwards coached forty eight games as a Chief Said coach.
He win a dismal fifteen to thirty three and was fired,

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So I guess they were due. Right after Don Shula,
Bill Parcells, Mike Holmgren, Bill Belichick, and John Gruden. By
the way of that list, everyone won a Super Bowl
except Holmgren, and Holmgren got to a Super Bowl. HERM
Edwards not so much. Took thirteen more years before another

(01:27:05):
coach trade was consummated, but it happened. The Kansas City
Chiefs checked that back to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They
traded a sixth round pick two the Arizona Cardinals four
Bruce Arians Arians heads to Tampa Bay. He goes on

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to win the Super Bowl in his second season as
the head man in Tampa Bay, then retired in twenty
twenty one after his second postseason appearance with Tampa Bay,
and his appears to have ridden off into the sunset.
So not only our coaches you know, eligible to be

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traded if in fact you can negotiate the deal and
have a willing dance partner. But look at these names.
Prusirians won a Super Bowl, John Gruton won a Super Bowl,
Bill Belichick won six, Bill Parcells, don Cula, Michael Hombran
got to a Super Bowl. Her Edwards again. Of the group,

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he's the only one who doesn't you know he you
get nothing inlike a judge smiles. But wait, there was
one more. It just happened last year. We're talking about
Sean Payton. The Saints owned the rights to Sean Payton,
even though he'd been Dorman a couple of years, but

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the Denver Broncos traded a first and third round pick
to the Saints for the right to get Sean Payton.
I can't give any results yet because well, this is
the first year that Sean Payton checked out. This is
the second year that Sean Payton has been with the

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the Denver Broncos. But in about nine hours here they're
going to kick off and visit the Buffalo Bill, so
we'll see what happens. So I found this, honestly found
this list to be I was incredulous when I saw
the names. And yeah, again, when you draft, when you

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trade players or draft picks, that's common. When you start
to trade head coaches, that's a whole different kettle of fish.
But you know, again, these are eight well known head coaches,
eight well known head coach trades in NFL history. The
first one, Don Jula, goes from Baltimore to Miami, and
the move wasn't originally intended to be a trade, but

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the league mandated that Miami sent a first round pick
to Baltimore otherwise they'd be hit with tampering rule violations.
And again fast forward to nineteen ninety seven, there was
twenty seven years when it didn't happen. There were seven
more high profile coaching trades. And these are big names.
Bill Parcells, Her Edwards, Bill Belichick, and again Sean Payton

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and Lesten, I forget Mike Holmbron, John Gruden, etc. Bruce Arians.
So yes, yes, it can happen. Coming up, I want
to dive back into Sunday's football slate and give a
bit of a preview. There's four games remaining in the

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Wildcard round, and I think it's time to take a
little bit of a deeper dive into these games. And
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(01:31:48):
we're about eight hours and thirty nine minutes away from
the resumption of the NFL Wild Card weekend. Neither game
Saturday was particularly SI delating Sunday we could get a
mix of everything, and we got a game Monday as well.
First game on the docket the number seven seed Denver Broncos.

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When the rookie quarterback bow Knicks invades Buffalo. Now they
give it up to the Broncos and Sean Payton. They
ended in eight year playoff drought. They get a crack
at perhaps the top quarterback of the AFC, depending on
if you want to have an argument. Now, he's probably
not better Mahomes and maybe I don't know, you could

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argue whether you know where he ranks among Joe Burrow,
Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, or why do I bring that
up because the Broncos didn't play Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes
or Joe Burrow this year or even justin Herbert. Now
they get Josh Allen. By the way, Josh Allen has
ran his run for twelve touchdowns this season. That's the

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same amount the Broncos have as a team. So one
of the things Josh Allen has become that guy. Actually,
and this is an app comparison. If you turned on
the film for ten years ago, he used to say
Russell Wilson, he was in his peak in Seattle. He
had to prepare two defensive schemes for Russell Wilson. The

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one for the offensive game plan that they to prepare
and run and the one for when the play breaks
down and Russell Wilson improvises and performs what they call
quote second act plays, which is what the Broncos have
referred to Josh Allen. They need to limit second act plays.

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And the long and short of it is, these are
plays that the initial reads are taken away. Josh Allen
decides he's got to improvise. He'll either take off and
run or he'll find another receiver. Right, the Bills have
been awesome in the Wild Card. They've only lost once
with Josh Allen starting. They're five to one. The question

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is whether the defense can get off the field because
right Now, the Bills defense is fourth worst and third
down conversion percentage, and they don't exactly sack the quarterback
a lot. They're tied for eighteenth in sacks. On the
other hand, bow Knicks has avoided sacks, tied for third
fust and the leak. He gets the damn ball out

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of his hand, and he's mobile enough. He's extremely poised
for a young quarterback, and he's he's got a lot
more mobility and an ability to extend plays, and many
rookies do, or even a lot of quarterbacks will lead
to Sean McDermott knows this all right. The one thing
the Bills do have going for them, though, is they
lead the league in turnover marchin plus twenty four and

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the Bills on their side of the ball have only
turned the ball over eight times the entire year. That's
big time. So look, you got a couple of interesting matchups.
Can the Broncos get the ball to Courtland Sutton that'll
run the ball well. And the tooth of the matter
is and I talked about this last night with Jason

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Smith and Mike Carmen and earlier with Scott Kellen. Over
the past ten seasons, rookie quarterbacks are zero and five
out right and one to four against the spread and
road playoff games. It just has not been a good
a good look. Now you may be inclined to grab
the eight and a half points, it's the games to

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stay away. For me, I just simply don't see a
path where the Broncos win. So you're trying to become
a fishbender there and hang the number. I mean, what,
what what's the path? How did the Broncos win? They
somehow keep Josh Allen off the field, But because they
don't run the ball off, they're gonna have to do
with screenplays and short passes. But you know, I expect

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Sean Payton to call a great game. But the other
thing you're gonna have to wonner. And I know this
is very cliche, but I think to have a shot
to win Denver would have to win in the turnover
battle as well. And I don't know that that's honestly,
don't know that that's in the cards. At one thirty

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Pacific time, four to thirty Eastern, the NFC gets into
the act. The Packers visit the Philadelphia Eagles, and look,
the pack They've had a nice year They've had a
nice year. They limp into the playoffs a little bit
having lost their last two games, and let's face it,

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they're gonna miss Christian Watson and the Packers have had
trouble with Saquon Barkley before in the twenty twenty fourth
season opener. This year, I think Barkley's had three straight
games against the Packers with at least one hundred yards
from scrimmage in a touchdown, and so that's an issue.
Jalen Hurts is back. I'm not worried at the least

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about the concussion protocol he went through. I Thinkhladelphia is
the most complete team in all three phases. As we
enter this tournament, the question will be, now, Hurts, this
is a legitimate conversation. Hertz Acton actually played in a
game since December twenty second, all right, so that's three weeks.

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So can Philadelphia's passing offense get to a rhythm, especially
early in the game with Jalen Hurts playing in his
first game in three weeks? And that was kind of
a theme for the Eagles in general this season, slow starts,
particularly earlier in the season. Remember they had that stat
We even did it and brand new food what by

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name said. When I'm the head coach of a team
that's failed to score in the first quarter ten weeks
in a row. That was the Philadelphia Eagles. They did
not score in the first quarter ten times this year.
Now their production is improved of late, but they're going
to be coming up against a pretty good defense in
Green Bay. It's actually only allowing nineteen points again, sixpence

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in the NFL. The pack finished with their highest defensive
ranking since their Super Bowl winning season when they had
Aaron Rodgers back in twenty ten. But the Eagles have
been a nemesis for the Packers all right. Eagles nine
to three and against the spread in their last twelve games.
Again I checked. The Eagles are four and a half

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point favorites. I just honestly feel like this is a
ten point win for Philadelphia. I really don't know what
the path to victory is for Green Bay. Jordan Love
is back to throwing. He issued it he injured his
right elbow last week. Said they're still soreness his arm
is vital. They need Jordan Love, especially since Green Bay

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will be out with will be without their most explosive receiver,
Christian Watson. He towards ACL last week as well. And oh,
by the way, he did you know Green Bay is
facing a Vic Fangio defense that has allowed the NFL
second fewest passes of north of fifteen yards. So they're
gonna take away their vertical play, which is tough on

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green Bay because green Bay thrives off big plays. They
rank third in the National Football League and explosive play percentage.
And if you look at Philadelphia, look, they're gonna need
a good game out of Jalen Hurt taken and win
without them. But it's difficult because Hurts is a big
difference maker. There's a big drop off when Hurts doesn't

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play well, and you know, it imposes issues on the
remainder of the team. This feels to me like a
thirty one to twenty one type game. I just I
feel like the Eagles win by ten. We shall see
what we shall see. The final game of the evening
will feature. I think what should be a You know,

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if you like offensive fireworks, if you like shootouts, it's
hard to imagine Tampa Bay and Washington not lighting up
the scoreboard. Again. You got the same situation I just
mentioned about a rookie quarterback going on the road to
make his first playoffs start in the last ten years.

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In those such situations on five straight up one and
four against the spread, Tampa Bay only laying three. I've
bet Tampa Bay full disclosure, I feel like this line's
off by a point and a half, that Tampa Bay
should be laying more like four and a half. The
only path to victory for Washington is, you know, again

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it's cliche, You're gonna have to turn the bucks over.
I don't really expect Tampa Bay's or checked at Washington's defense,
which ranks twenty fourth and EPA per play and allowing
twenty four points a game, which is the highest figure.
Washington's got the worst defense among all fourteen playoff teams.
How do they stop Tampa Bay consistently? They're gonna need
to take possessions away from Baker Mayfield. Now, Baker may Field,

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you know, through forty one touchdown passes, but he did
lead the NFL with sixteen interceptions. If somehow Washington turns
Baker Mayfield over a couple of times, you can likely
count on Washington's offense to make some noise. All right,
They've got the fifth highest scoring attack in the league.
You're averaging twenty eight points a game. But Washington doesn't

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stop the run well. And if Tampa Bay feeds Bucky Irving,
that will rob Daniels. I think of time on the
field and Mayfield's going to get his But Tampa Bay
is seven and two when Bucky Irving just touches the
ball ten times. Why with Bucky Irving's averaging five and

(01:41:43):
a half yards per carry, that's the third highest market
in NFL history among qualifying rookies. He's only behind Adrian
Peterson and Clinton Portis. That is pretty damn good company
if you ask me. Washington defense has improved since facing
Tampa Bay in the season opener. Remember that was a

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thirty seven to twenty final. Baker Mayfield threw four touchdowns
in that game. When you consider that after the first
three games of the season, the Commandos ranked twenty ninth
in points allowed per game with twenty nine. But in
the next fourteen weeks they got that defense improved all
the way to twelfth and reduced the scoring points per

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game down to twenty one point six and fourth in
total yards just at over three hundred. So the Bucks
they're going to present a challenge because of their very
much improved run game at Bucky Irving, and they ranked
seventh in the NFL over the last seven weeks in
rushing yards. And this is where, again as a handicapper,
you look for strength versus weakness, and this is clearly one.

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Tampa Bay can run the ball, they will run the ball.
Match that up with Washington's defense, which ranks thirtieth against
the run. They're allowing almost one hundred and forty yards
per game. Now, the Bucks are going to see a
different quarterback as they face Jade and Daniels, different since

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they saw him clear back in Week one when Daniels
actually rushed for two touchdowns. But what's interesting is I
think the Bucks field are more equipped to stop Jaden
Daniels this time around. Early in the season, you know,
one of their quarterbacks mentioned, we were a little bit
short on containment and we weren't plastering around as quarterbacks

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started to scramble and receivers started to site adjust their routes.
But this has sort of been a point of focus
on Tampa Bay's defense, honing in on quarterback movement. The
truth of the matter is their focus is proved to
be fruitful. In the first eight games, Tampa Bay was

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giving up five yards per rush to opposing quarterbacks, which
was twenty third in the league. That number is now
down to three point one yards to rush, which is
third best in the league. So that takes away in
some senses a key weapon that Jayden Daniels brings when
you know the play breaks down, He's pretty good at

(01:44:16):
being improvisational. Right again, these two teams, they're averaging twenty
eight points in game. It feels like both teams are
going to get their yards. There could be turnovers. We'll
see one guy I'm watching give it up to a
rookie wide receiver that Tampa Bay has really started to

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emerge kid by the name of Jalen McMillan. He's getting
more target volume, he's getting more touchdown production. In recent weeks,
he has at least one touchdown reception at least in
the past five games. He is able to stretch the
field vertically. He brings that element to the offense and
opposite Mike Evans, who can oftentimes command a double team, well,

(01:44:59):
McMillan's have a guy that could win his matchups against
the Washington's. You know, other secondary players So this is
a game I know most pros I think are betting
the over of fifty overs or twelve and five and
Buccaneers games, and it feels like it feels like the
winning team gets into the thirties. This this feels like

(01:45:20):
a thirty one to twenty seven type game. Thirty four
to twenty seven type game. You know, you never know
what happens when they hit the field. But it's just
hard to picture a situation where this isn't probably the
highest scoring game of all the you know, remaining Wildcard games,

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which brings us to Monday night and the Minnesota Vikings
and the Rams, which also could also be a high
scoring game. But the as you know, and by the way,
currently as it stands, Minnesota laying two and a half.
The game has been moved to Arizona. It was announced
Thursday night the decision. The National Football League made the

(01:46:04):
decision in the interest of public safety as these horrific
wildfires continue to ravage southern California. The game is originally
scheduled to take place in SOFI Stadium in Englewood, but
it's not going to be played in Glendale State Farm Stadium.
At the same time, Monday Night football eight pm Eastern Time.

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Pretty two evenly matched teams. Remember these two teams played
in Week eight and what happened was in Puka Nicoula.
Now Brian Flores claims that they did not know, you know,
they were admitted they were surprised by the fact that
Poka Nicool was playing, which caused a little bit of scrambling,
and Nicool went nuts that day. He was targeted three

(01:46:48):
times on the opening drive. He finished with seven catches
one hundred and six yards and the Rams had their
season nine total thirty points that day. They beat the
Vikings thirty to twenty. We know the Rams are a
very different teams with Pookinakou out there, but Cooper cup
Is got the bad ankle and I don't know. I
don't know how much that affects the Rams, although I

(01:47:09):
think it's going to affect the Rams. I realize it's
hard to unsee what people saw on Sunday night when
Sam Donald looked flustered. Of course they're the you know,
the references to seeing ghosts. The Lions pass rush against

(01:47:31):
Sam Donald was fierce. They got after earlier and often
give it up to Aaron Glenn for teeing up would
turn out to be an extremely heady game plan. Uh.
Sam Donald does have a tendency to hold the ball
a little bit, and they knew that if they could,
if they could bring it, you know, and with the

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return of Alex Sanzeloni, it really helped the Lions. But
if they if they could bring a fierce pass rush
and pressure Sam Donald virtually every play that it would serve,
it would serve the Lions well. And it did. Sam
Darnold missed on a lot of throws and I think
a lot of times he was releasing the ball before

(01:48:13):
he wanted to. And so it's a situation where the
Rams don't have that same kind of pass rush ability
that the Lions are gonna bring. And you know, the
Vikings are the type of team they only lost three
games all year. All right, I'm not so sure I'm

(01:48:33):
sold on the Rams. I would frankly, it's a tough
game because you can make a great case for both sides.
But I feel like the Vikings right the ship, and
I think they're better than the Rams in all three phases. Certainly,
I think they're better defensively with Brian Flores, and it

(01:48:54):
feels like this is a bounce back game for the Vikings.
But to do that, let's beyond, They're going to have
to limit Pooka Akua, and Stafford has made a living
just leaning on pooka Akua. He's targeted since I mean
we're talking about the last nine weeks of the season,

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pooka Akua has been targeted on basically forty percent of
his routes. That's the most of any receiver I think
in the National Football League in that span. And again
in his first full game in the season back in
Week eight, Nikoua completely torched the Viking secondary one hundred
and six yards, nine targets, seven catches. So you know

(01:49:37):
they're going to focus on him and try to put
him an advice. But if La watched the film against
the Lions, he didn't know they did. They're going to
do their best to pressure Sam Donald. It was an
ugly Week eighteen loss to Detroit. Donald, who's had a
sensational year Channel twenty nineteen, missed some critical throws under duress.

(01:50:00):
Sam Darnold did not look like the Sam donocues saw
during their prior seventeen weeks of the regular season. Okay,
now the Rams have a pass rush. They got a
stud rookie Jared Verse and Braden fifty a couple of
a nice little one to two punch, but I don't
think it'll be the same one to two punch that
the Lions brought. All right, Minnesota does have a replacement

(01:50:23):
left tackle in Cam Robinson. He's allowed eight sacks and
ten games, and he gave up nine pressures against the
Lions in Week eighteen. So make no mistake, this is
a tight game, and I think the Vikings are going
to have their work cut out for him. And there's
also the coaching situation. Sean McVay seven and four outright

(01:50:46):
in the playoffs. This is his twelfth head coaching playoff
game as a head coach in the National Football League.
It's only Kevin O'Connell's second, all right, So that's something
to fact are in as well. But it feels to
me like the Vikings are I think you played this

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game six times, ten times, the Vikings win six and
a half out of ten. I'll just leave it there.
Can the Rams win, Yes they can. The Rams. I
don't think they're a great team, but they have some
things going for them. One of the things is they
were flagged the fewest times this season of any playoff team,
and so you know they've got John Hussey that crew,
which also averaged the league's second fewest flags per game,

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and the Vikings drew the most flags per game. So
might that be a factor? Sure, sure that could be
a factor. But at the end of the day, you
find yourself in a situation where the game will, like
most games, probably come down to five key plays and
who makes them, who doesn't, Who makes them who doesn't?

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You get the picture, right, So it's nothing to watch,
is something to pay attention to? This game on Sunday
night or Monday night should be a doozy because I
think it will offer. It will offer I think, perhaps
pound for pound, the tightest most competitive game in the

(01:52:19):
National Football League in terms of the wildcard round, and uh,
you know, let's let's see what happens, right. I think
it would be interesting if the Vikings won. It looks like,
based on the way I'm looking at how this thing
is going to play out, if the Vikings were to win,
they would return Detroit to Detroit for the third time

(01:52:39):
this year. You know, in the lines would be asked
to beat them for a third time, and it would
be interesting to see how the Vikings react based on
what happened last Sunday night. On the other hand, should
the Rams prevail, looks like they would be the ones
to head to UH Detroit. Can you imagine a Matt
Stafford reunion back in Detroit. He's a lot to Jared

(01:53:00):
Goff twice since he's been with Rams. But let's not
get ahead of ourselves. But the reason I say that
is I just don't see Green Bay. I just don't
see Green Bay beating Philadelphia. Another game, even though it's
not going to be played for another eight days, involves
a number eight seed as a nine and a half

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point favorite against Wake Up the Echoes. Let's talk about that.
It's never too early. As we are down to one game.
There are ten playoff games already played in this new
twelve team format, but a week from Monday, it'll be
for all the marbles as the Buckeyes and Fighting Irish
are set for a championship showdown. Let's break it down.

(01:53:45):
It's never to let's have a little fun with that.
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number eight seed later in nine and a half points
the Ohio State Buckeyes, who under last year's playoff format,

(01:54:53):
we don't even been in and I don't know Notre
Dame would have been either, But there are two finalists
and eight seed in a five seed, and right now
Ohio State is a nine and a half point favorite.
The money line is minus four ten, which means if
you want to win one hundred dollars, you bet four
hundred and ten dollars to win one hundred, which, as

(01:55:14):
we translate that here in Las Vegas, equates to about
eighty two percent change of Ohio State winning the game.
All right, Actually, Notre Dame, I misspoke. Notre Dame is
the number seven seed. Ohio State's the number eight seed.
It all takes place Monday, January twentieth at Atlanta's Mercedes
Benz Stadium. A couple of real blue bloods, Notre Dame.

(01:55:38):
They punched their ticket by beating Penn State twenty seven
to twenty four. There you go, death taxes and Jim
Franklin one in fifteen now against top five ranked teams. Now,
the Irish had to come back from two deficits and
Penn State run. But the real story here is Ryan

(01:55:58):
Day And it kind of bothers me when everybody says
he's on the hot seat, What exactly does it mean?
They were not going to fire him. He could have
lost to Tennessee in the opening. They were not going
to blow out their big time recruiting class coming in
next year, and a lot of players on the roster
who would have would have jeopardized that Ryan Dave been
fired would be that as it may. He's since beating Oregon,

(01:56:20):
Tennessee and just completely. I thought they handled Texas even
though they played a C game by two touchdowns. Speeding train. Now,
Ohio State won their three games by a total of
fifty nine points. But give it up to Notre Dame too.
They had to battle through tremendous sounds to get to
this point. Remember they had that huge early setback Week

(01:56:41):
two against Northern Illinois when they were thirty point favorites.
That added tremendous pressure to win down the stretch. Notre
Dame's not part of a conference. They could not win
a second lose a second game. Excuse me. Although their
schedule wasn't that tough, but they had several impactful injuries
throughout the year. They have a cornerback that's potential first

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round bat choice, Benjamin Morrison. He's been out for two months.
They're leading sack artist Riley Mills. They lost him in
the first playoff game against Indiana. In spite of it all,
give it up to Marcus Freeman. Notre Dame has not
only been very impressive, they're likable. They're led by Xavier Watts,
who will draw the assignment. I'm quite sure on Jeremiah Smith.

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And it's not just Jeremiah Smith. Ohio State has the
most talented roster in college football and now they're playing
like it all right. The key has been the renewed
focus on Jeremia Smith. He's only a freshman. He's regarded
as maybe one of the best players in the entire country,
maybe the best receiver, and his playoff totals are staggering
thirteen catches, two hundred ninety three yards for touchdowns. And

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we'll break down this game next weekend as well. But
Ohio State Buckeyes have first round prospects all over the place.
Up next, brand new fool. What my name Keith? It
locks the Bernie Fratt Show on Fox Sports Radio. Well,
that's right, you heard the man. Bernie Fraddle Show keeps
Roland right along. My name is Bernie Fraddle. We are

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week every Sunday, two am Pacific, faviam Eastern. You know
what you love it? You can't live without the dance
sensation sweep of the nation. You see because here on
the Bernie Fraddle Show, as Yogie Berry when said you
can observe a lot by watching, which is exactly what
we do. And around this great land of ours, from
seed to oily seed, frankly, around the globe, around the planet. Well,

(01:58:54):
people engage in behaviors. Sometimes those behaviors are odd. Sometimes
those behaviors are trouble. Sometimes they can land you into
serious trouble, maybe innocuous, sometimes even and you you can
end up in jail. But anyway you slice it, any way,
you characterize it, any way you describe it, Well, these
behaviors that people engage in, they always managed to leave

(01:59:17):
us scratching our head and asking ourselves what kind of
brand new fool of you?

Speaker 1 (01:59:27):
So, what kind of brand new fool are you?

Speaker 2 (01:59:32):
Well, this one is kind of on the innocuous side,
although it is stupid and for the third week in
a row, I will not be taking this down to Florida.
It's actually Clay County, Missouri, and it involves let me
see if I can set this up properly, because it
actually involves a concept that most people are very familiar

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with them that is the quest for people to acquire
customize license plates for their car. Not in all my life,
I have never desired to acquire a customized license plate,
nor have I ever done it. But according to the
Missouri Department of Revenue that state, okay with you, drivers

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cannot for customized license plate with up to six characters
and even one space, one dash, and one apostrophe if
you should so desire. Of course, you have to follow
an application process to register a vehicle with a personalized plate,
and it's got to be approved because actually there are

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some customized plates that are illegal. The Department of Revenue quote,
no personalized license plates shall be issued containing any letters, numbers,
or combination of letters and numbers which are seen profane,
patently offensive, or contemptuous of a racial or ethnic group,

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or offensive to good taste or decency, or something that
would present an unreasonable danger to the health or safety
of the applicant or other users of streets and highways,
or of the public eating the location with a vehicle
with such a plate may be found. That's one hell
of a mouthful right there, end quote. But that didn't

(02:01:23):
stop a couple of knuckleheads. And this is one of
those rare times. We don't have any names here who
decided that they came to a traffic stop and well
that traffic stops just a suggestion, not for us, not
up in here, and they blew right through a traffic
stop only to be observed by not one, but two

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police vehicles. As a matter of fact, it was the
Clay to the Share in the Kansas City metropolitan area.
And they even had a dash cam photo as a
officer started to approach the car around the time, and
the car just took off. And one way to get
the attention of policeman is to take off and evade

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the police. Not very smart, pretty stupid, right, do not
flee from a traffic stop, especially in here. It comes.
If you have a license plate that says quote, I'll
spell it out, we dash H I g h W

(02:02:30):
E high. You got a license plate that somehow got
approved and says we high, and you just ran a
traffic stop in front of two policemen, and as they
approached the vehicle, you take off with a license plate
that says we high. Well, two people arrested the incident,

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and we're not sure at this point if it's even
led to charges. County Sheriff's office calls a tough lesson
for the couple, though it did not disclose if the
couple was in fact indeed under the influence or high.
Did any way it sliced it anyway you characterize it,
anyway you describe it. These two unnamed people from Clay County,

(02:03:18):
Missouri that blew through a stop sign, refused to pull over,
and fled from the cops with a license plate personal
license said we hi. I have to ask you, what
kind of brand new fools are you? All right, mister
Shay you are up next, Bernie.

Speaker 7 (02:03:37):
I gotta say I like the customized place myself?

Speaker 2 (02:03:42):
Good? Good? Do you have one? Any chance?

Speaker 7 (02:03:43):
I don't have one? With California has got the cool ones?
You can you can get the cool black and yellow ones.

Speaker 2 (02:03:48):
You yes, yeah, the old timey ones.

Speaker 7 (02:03:52):
The California's got some fun ones.

Speaker 2 (02:03:55):
So I've seen some clever ones. I just never was
of the inclination that I felt that was something I
needed to do for my own edification.

Speaker 7 (02:04:02):
I'm sure Vegas got some cool ones.

Speaker 2 (02:04:04):
Yeah, oh yeah, everybody, Oh sure, every state. I mean
it's a money maker. As a matter of fact, I
don't think they're that cheap. I think they're two three
four our bucks, aren't they. I mean it's not cheap.
I'm not wrong. I don't know.

Speaker 7 (02:04:14):
That's something I'll have to I'll look into it. Well,
we'll get back to you on that. We'll get back
to you.

Speaker 2 (02:04:19):
Good little little field reporting.

Speaker 7 (02:04:23):
Well, I mine stays in Los Angeles, so no Florida
this week from either of us. And this one's kind
of a little bit of a do is doozy. So
a robbery suspect uses a Waymo vehicle to try to
evade an arrest. Do you want to you know what
a Waymo vehicle is?

Speaker 2 (02:04:40):
I can't say I do.

Speaker 7 (02:04:41):
So Waymo vehicles are basically this new thing that they're
trying out. So everyone knows what an uber is. It's
basically an uber, but instead of having a driver, it's
an automated vehicle, so it's no one's driving Yeah, they're
called Really, one of the companies that's doing it is
called So when you're ordering a Weaimo, you're ordering one

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of those. So some background information before I go into
this story. So, a man accused of robbering a grocery
store in mid city on Monday attempted to evade officers
using a Weimo vehicle. According to the Los Angeles Police Department,
the robbery reported at a Ralph's store just before ten pm.
After two people stole goods from the grocery store. Security

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confronted the suspects, who took off, one on foot and
the other by ordering a ride through the self driving
car service Waimo. Officer officers pursued the Weaymo vehicle, which
stopped a few miles away from the business after detecting
the police's sirens. Police were then able to make an

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arrest the other individuals captured by Ralph's security guards. Laped
did not name the individuals and did not comment any further.
So it is pretty short, but it is pretty funny.
And this leads me to say, unnamed individual that went
into the Waymo vehicle thinking you'd be able to get away,
what kind of brand new fool, are you?

Speaker 2 (02:06:08):
I don't. I don't get this whole deal. Can somebody
please explain to me why we need cars that are
not driven by human beings? Why do we need that?

Speaker 1 (02:06:19):
I like it.

Speaker 7 (02:06:20):
I think it's a good because think about this. When
let's say you got your daughter right and you're sending
her on uber or something. She's a little drunk, she's
by herself, I think you'd feel a little bit more
comfortable knowing not some strangers driving her, you know what
I mean, Like I see it from that front.

Speaker 2 (02:06:34):
Okay, or it's like like creative, you know what I.

Speaker 7 (02:06:37):
Mean, Like just like kind of you feel a little
bit safer, you don't have to worry about anyone. I
don't really like the fact that my life isn't on
another person's hands, because I feel like then like, oh,
like this person cares, Like this person doesn't want to
die either, but like a robot doesn't care. So that's
a little scary. So it's like there's a lot of
pros and cons to it. I'm sure if technology gets

(02:06:59):
a lot better better, the cons will slowly go away.
But right now, I don't know if the cons really
outweigh the pros.

Speaker 2 (02:07:07):
I I am concerned, and this is coming from somebody
in terms of the knowledge I have of these way
more vehicles are non human driving vehicles. Right, Uh, my
knowledge couldn't feel a fimble. But how safe really are they?
How safe are they?

Speaker 7 (02:07:28):
So I drive a Tesla and I they randomly they'll
give me like a free trial of the of the
the auto driving and this month they actually just gave
it to me like a free month. And I've been
using it a little bit and I love it. I
use it all the time.

Speaker 2 (02:07:43):
Now your destination? Yeah, yeah, so basically GPS go ahead, Yeah,
I put it on GPS.

Speaker 7 (02:07:50):
I basically just put it on GPS and then I
click a button and then it takes me. And then
it has a camera inside of the vehicle to make
sure I'm like my eye they're facing forward and like
paying attention to the road because like let's say, if
I'm like looking down at my phone, it will notice
that and it would like it will go crazy on
me and say bleep, beat beep, like look at the
road and or like we're all stop and like pull over. Basically,

(02:08:13):
it's it's it's a great it's really good. It's good tech. Obviously,
they'll be like amazing technology.

Speaker 2 (02:08:18):
Usually do we need it? You know? Like the it's
like the famous trash compactor which would take twenty fronds
of trash and turn it into twenty pounds of trash.
Do we do we really need that?

Speaker 7 (02:08:30):
You know, Bernie? Do we do we need heated toilets?
Do we need bidets?

Speaker 2 (02:08:34):
No? But don't tell the folks in Europe. They listen exactly.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (02:08:38):
I love myself a bit day.

Speaker 2 (02:08:40):
So waiting for. You know, what I'm waiting for is
the day that a Waymo vehicle and another way more
vehicle get into it. There's a little road.

Speaker 7 (02:08:46):
Range, Bernie, actually that I'm gonna send you a video
right now. There's this funny because the weymos need somewhere
to park, right, so they have these lots where the
basically the cars go and they'll go park. But in
these parking lots, the way Moth cars will get stuck
and like trying to park or something will happen and

(02:09:07):
they'll start like doing these things where they're flashing each
other and like like they're stuck going in circles and
roundabouts and honking and like the people that live close
to these parking structures are so annoyed because it's happening
all throughout the night and no one's able to stop
it because no one's at those parking structures because it's
all automated. I'll send you the video.

Speaker 2 (02:09:26):
It's hilarious. Here you just all right? Well, that you
know brings to a conclusion another rousing addition of what
kind of brand new fool you, which now allows us
to seguey into our second favorite bit that we lovingly
refer to as what my name? And here here we go,

(02:09:46):
all right? As a National Football League coach head coach,
I have won more divisional titles than any head coach
in NFL history? Mark Ram Is he what my name?
Earlier in the broadcast he was once traded as one

(02:10:10):
of the eight coaching trades?

Speaker 8 (02:10:13):
Or does he work for the Broncos Now I forgot
his name?

Speaker 2 (02:10:17):
No, that that's not this? Uh not Sean Payton. I've
won more divisional titles than any other head coach in
NFL history. Shane Mogengar, what my name?

Speaker 7 (02:10:29):
He won more?

Speaker 2 (02:10:31):
And you brought him a divisional titles?

Speaker 9 (02:10:33):
Is?

Speaker 7 (02:10:33):
And not Andy Reid?

Speaker 2 (02:10:36):
Bill Belichick? Guys, believe.

Speaker 7 (02:10:40):
Yeah, I should have known that. Oh wow, that's a
bad start.

Speaker 2 (02:10:45):
That's all right, it's it's it's all right, it's it's
it's We got many more to get to here, all right, Well,
stay in the NFL. I am the head coach of
the National Football Teague. Okay, let me try that again
in English, horrible coach of a National Football League team
who played more one score games this season total thirteen,

(02:11:06):
than any other team in the league. I'm currently in
the playoffs, Mark Ramsey, what my name?

Speaker 10 (02:11:14):
You said one score teams?

Speaker 2 (02:11:16):
Yeah, I went one score games.

Speaker 8 (02:11:19):
I'm not gonna get mixed up with with the Eagles
who haven't scored. So that's that's right, yea.

Speaker 2 (02:11:25):
Yeah, No, this this involves. This involves a team who
was involved in thirteen one score games this season, which
is more than any other head coach of any other
NFL team, And currently I'm in the wildcard round. Want
to give it another Goalmark, one more try?

Speaker 8 (02:11:46):
Is it the the Texans coach.

Speaker 2 (02:11:51):
Is not the Texans coach, which is Demiko Ryans. I
am the head coach of the National Football League team
who played more one score games than any other team
this season, total thirteen. I'll give you a clue, Shay.
She probably issue this to Mark. It's a California based
team and they're they're in the wild car They're in

(02:12:14):
the wildcard round. Yep.

Speaker 7 (02:12:16):
They won thirteen games.

Speaker 2 (02:12:19):
No, no, no, they were involved in thirteen one score games,
which is more than anybody else.

Speaker 7 (02:12:25):
The Chargers Chargers.

Speaker 2 (02:12:27):
Sean McVay of the Los Angeles rams, Sean McVay really, yeah,
thirteen one score game?

Speaker 7 (02:12:35):
Oh my god. All right, here we go, and you're
asking for the Ted coach. Sorry, yeah, yeah, all good.

Speaker 2 (02:12:43):
All right. I'm a quarterback. I was sacked sixty eight
times this season in the National Football League. That's more
than any other quarterback. Mark Ramsey, what my name? He
plays in the city. You're very familiar with.

Speaker 10 (02:13:00):
Caleb Williams.

Speaker 2 (02:13:01):
You got it. We're off and running, mister Taylor Williams.

Speaker 10 (02:13:09):
I bet he has a bedet in Chicago.

Speaker 7 (02:13:14):
He also bends his nails, So yeah, I would. I
would definitely.

Speaker 2 (02:13:19):
M I fellas m I fellas a very mental picture.

Speaker 10 (02:13:22):
A very heated in Chicago.

Speaker 2 (02:13:24):
He needs it. Yeah, yes, oh boy, good good stuff.
As a quarterback in the National Football League, unfumbled thirteen
times this season, it's more than any other quarterback in
the National Football League. Shay, what my name?

Speaker 7 (02:13:43):
You fumbled the most this year?

Speaker 2 (02:13:45):
Yeah, thirteen times.

Speaker 7 (02:13:47):
Joe Burrow.

Speaker 2 (02:13:49):
Not Joe Burrow. Not Joe Burrow. All right? Uh as
a headquarter oh my goodness. As a quarterback in the
National Football League, I fumbled thirteen times this past season,
more than any other quarterback of the National Football League.
I lost my job with three weeks to go, and
they paid me one hundred eighty million dollars. Mark Ramsey

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with my.

Speaker 8 (02:14:11):
Name, Could it be somebody's cousin, Kirk Cousins.

Speaker 2 (02:14:18):
You got it nicely done. I was about to go
with their Cousins type by.

Speaker 5 (02:14:24):
Clue there, but you.

Speaker 2 (02:14:26):
Got it nicely Hey. That's that's high quality programming right there.
Run that. Do that again, Mark, I gotta tell you,
I get the biggest kick out of Kirk Cousins.

Speaker 5 (02:14:40):
I just do.

Speaker 2 (02:14:41):
Man, I don't know. All right, let's stay at the
National Football League. Let's stay in the quarterback room. I
passed this past season for four thousand, nine and eighteen yards,
Number one in the National Football League. In twenty twenty four,
Shave Mogenar with my.

Speaker 7 (02:15:00):
Name Josh Shallon.

Speaker 2 (02:15:05):
Not just you guys. Just actually his name A minute ago.
I passed for four nine eighteen yards this past season.
That's the number, good for number one overall in the
National Football League. Mark, what my name.

Speaker 10 (02:15:21):
Is it?

Speaker 6 (02:15:22):
Uh?

Speaker 10 (02:15:23):
Joe Burrow?

Speaker 2 (02:15:24):
It is Joe Burrow.

Speaker 10 (02:15:27):
Mark's on a heater.

Speaker 2 (02:15:29):
Yeah, you're a heater. Caleb Williams, Kirk cousin, Joe Burrow.

Speaker 10 (02:15:32):
It's the bidet. It's the bidet.

Speaker 2 (02:15:35):
It's your day, man, your day manh Yeah, the bidet.
That mental picture. Man. I'm just struggling now because I
know what a bidet does. Uh.

Speaker 7 (02:15:46):
Anyway, they're great men.

Speaker 2 (02:15:49):
I bet they are. I bet they are. What do
you what do you want to bet? Every now and
then Caleb Williams gets confused and thinks it's a drinking
fountain and stop that possible.

Speaker 10 (02:15:59):
He would be like crocodile dundee.

Speaker 2 (02:16:00):
What is crocodile dundee? Yeah? Good stuff? All right, let's
stay in football. Okay. We all know that Saquon Barkley
led the National Football League in a rushing this past season.
But I since around the beday subject, I was number two.
See what I did there? See what I did there?

(02:16:22):
Saquon Barker led all nfls let the NFL A rush
in this past season, but I was number two, Shane
Mogger with my name.

Speaker 7 (02:16:32):
Was it Derrick Henry?

Speaker 2 (02:16:33):
It is, in fact, Derrick Henry nineteen.

Speaker 7 (02:16:36):
I'm on the board.

Speaker 2 (02:16:37):
Take that, mark, guys. You guys are doing good now.

Speaker 4 (02:16:40):
Man.

Speaker 2 (02:16:40):
That's four in row, four to row. YEA love it beautiful?
Ah wellow, let's stay in football. What do you think, guys?
I caught seventeen touchdown passes this season, which would make
me number one among all wide receivers. Mark Ramsey, what
my name is? I'll give you a clue, good one.

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Joe Burrow is my quarterback?

Speaker 10 (02:17:06):
Is his name Chase?

Speaker 2 (02:17:08):
His name is Jamar Chase. Take that to the bank.
It's five in a row, five in zero. This was
a little tougher, but you can get it. Just think
for a minute. Let's go to the defensive side of
the ball. This year in the National Football League, I
led the league with seventeen and a half sacks. Shaye,

(02:17:33):
what my name? And here's a really good clue. That
might be a teammate at Joe Burrows. Think if in
basketball you make a.

Speaker 7 (02:17:46):
Three oh oh oh, it's I'm Trey Hendrickson, he got
and a half sacks.

Speaker 2 (02:17:55):
Well, you guys are just okay, you guys just showing
off now, just going off.

Speaker 4 (02:18:00):
Now.

Speaker 2 (02:18:02):
Now, this one I did not get. I would not
have got it. But if you think you'll get it,
you guys can get this. We rarely talk about kickers,
but I made in I made forty one field goals
in twenty twenty four. That's number one among all kickers.

(02:18:23):
Mark Ramsey with my name, Oh the only reason I'm
not giving a clues. I can't think of a good
one here. I just can't think of a good one.

Speaker 10 (02:18:32):
I like to think of Gary your Premian, but that's
not right.

Speaker 2 (02:18:35):
I love Gary your Premium. We were overdue for an
old time an old old timey name. Love Gary your Premian.
All right, mister Shay, I made forty one field goals
this season. That's number one among all kickers. Actually, I

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do have a clue. My team's already been a lit
eminated from the wild card.

Speaker 7 (02:19:04):
Okay, so so it's either the dealers or the Okay,
is it Boswell?

Speaker 2 (02:19:14):
It is in fact Chris Boswell.

Speaker 7 (02:19:17):
Good, good job, forty one.

Speaker 2 (02:19:21):
W forty one field goals? Should we do one more?

Speaker 7 (02:19:26):
Let's do one more?

Speaker 2 (02:19:29):
Okay, what more? Uh? Among all NFL coaches in history,
I have the most playoff victories under the age of
forty with seven. Mark Ramsey, what my name? Here's a clue,

(02:19:56):
it's the California based team.

Speaker 10 (02:20:02):
Is that the rams coach.

Speaker 2 (02:20:06):
Judges are looking for a name. I don't mean to
be hard to ask, but we got we gotta have
a name. Oh what the hell? Well? Shit, do you
want to take a shot at it?

Speaker 7 (02:20:18):
Rams coach under the age of forty seven careers, seven
career NFL Sean.

Speaker 2 (02:20:28):
Any guys?

Speaker 7 (02:20:28):
Both credited Sean mcvagh Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:20:37):
Speaking good, good stuff tonight, guys. I like this. This
is a very interesting We're talking way more cars and
bid days and all kinds of stuff. I think maybe
one of these days I'll look into a way Moore
car if they have a good day trying. Yeah, I know, man,
I know, I just I just bought a brand new
VCR too, so I hate you know, look at you.

(02:21:01):
Good night, folks. You've been a great audience. Don't forget
to try the semi boneless spaghetti two shows this weekend.
I'm opening you up for Shaky Green and The Catskills.
By the way, football fans, be sure to tune into
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(02:21:23):
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(02:21:45):
Fox Sports Radio, coming to live from the tarret dot
Com studios here in Las Vegas. You particularly rousing condition
of brand new fool in what my name? You don't
have to hear it on the podcast in case you
missed it, well, we talk a lot of foot ball tonight,
and for good reason. We are in the throes of
a pretty exciting wildcard round as the NFL playoffs are

(02:22:09):
just beginning, and of course we have now mowed through
ten college football playoff games. In the eleventh championship game,
the eleventh one a week from Monday, Notre Dame and
and of course the Ohio State Buckeyes. But we covered
all on the Bernie Frittle Show, including the other football
spelled f ut b L. It's time Chris Prefet's World

(02:22:35):
of Soccer.

Speaker 11 (02:22:37):
The greatest goals, the thrilling finishes, the international drum. It's
all here in this report from the World of Soccer, Bernie.

Speaker 9 (02:22:58):
Before we begin, I would like to offer my conduc
rolens's and prayers to the family of Carlos Vea of
lafc He and his family they lost their home in
Malibu as part of the ongoing Palisades fire here in
Los Angeles. That fire and the fire at eat from
Eaton Canyon have been just huge parts of our daily

(02:23:18):
lives around here. My cousin I know how to relocate
from Pasadena and their stuff is in question for Vea.
He and his family are at the very least safe
and healthy with their lives and we send our prayers
to them. And I also want to thank La Galaxy,
who I know is hosting a donation drive for those
impacted by the wildfires. Soccer, more than any other sport

(02:23:41):
on the planet, is about community. These clubs have ties
and origins, not as sports teams purely for consumption, but
to be part of your community, and I think we
lose track of that sometimes, especially here in America, where
we isolate and atomize ourselves way way, way too often.
Soccer is about coming together and soccer clubs should be

(02:24:03):
at the forefront of this, no matter what it is.
Why I think many people disdained the massive capitalization of
soccer clubs around the world understanding the heart and soul
of the game is there. It is about the communities,
it's about the towns, and it's about the places where.

Speaker 2 (02:24:20):
You are from. Let's talk a little bit about Wrexham.

Speaker 9 (02:24:23):
We haven't talked about Rexham in a while, the club
from the show Welcome to Rexham and some of the
stuff that they've been up to. They are in League One.
This year they have had a kind of difficult couple
of games that have seen them draw in a few
places and kind of dent their status at the top
of League One. And remember, if they win English Football

(02:24:44):
League One, they would move up to the Championship, which
is the level just below the Premier League. Now they're
currently sitting in third place fifty one points to back
of English League One leader Birmingham City. One and two
get automatic promotions from League One, whereas three, four, five
and six end up playing in a promotion playoff. However,

(02:25:06):
Birmingham City also has two games in hand. They've played
two less games than Wrexham and Wycombe, which means that
those single two points might be a little more distant
than we think. If Birmingham City continues to clean up
their business and so far the season at sixteen five
and two they have. There is so much on the
line for Wrexham, who aspires to ascend the top of

(02:25:26):
everything first. At first it was simply to gain back
some respect, and now it seems that they are skyrocking
to the top. Transfer when transfer fees that have been
unthinkable years ago. They have broken records non stop this
ownership group and they continue to chase, but they could

(02:25:47):
lose some players with trying to make this money work.

Speaker 10 (02:25:49):
The other issue at.

Speaker 9 (02:25:50):
Hand right now is a matter of trying to qualify
for Europe by entering what is called the Welsh League Cup.
They're looking to join this competition along with several other sides,
including some formerly the Premier League. Cardiff City Swansea City
and Newport County and it's and it's part of a
touch point right now because Welsh teams, because they're considered

(02:26:12):
part of England, can only really qualify for European competitions
through either the Premier League, the EFL Cup or the
FA Cup. But the new proposals for the Welsh League
Cup would have a chance to qualify for UEFA Conference League,
which is the step below Europa League, which is right
below the Champions League. However, the idea has been reportedly

(02:26:33):
met with opposition from the English game and it's kind
of there is questions about whether or not if there
is a blowback from this where the English Football League
would try to endanger the status of EFL status for
clubs taking place in this because Welsh teams are supposed
to be part of the English competitions, they can't have

(02:26:55):
their own unless they're suddenly doing their own leagues and
such like it is in Scotland, like Scotland has their
own Premiership where you see clubs like Celtic and Rangers play.
Now the clubs are trying to make get assurances from
the Football Association that they won't be jeopardized for playing
in the English pyramid, but it's still up in question,
and to be honest, I could understand why there might

(02:27:15):
be a lot of politicking over the territory at work,
and some members of the Rexham Supporters Trust, which used
to run the club before Rob and Ryan came in
and took over the Wrexham have issued some concerns about this.
They don't want to see the status of Wrexham, who
has fought so hard to climb up the English ladder,

(02:27:36):
really in jeopardy over a lee over a League cup
that at best would only get you into the third
tier of European competition. I understand a lot of people
want to play in Europe, but I kind of have
to agree with them. If this is at all going
to risk your status in the EFL, you dump it,
you dump it, you stick with the EFL. Like a

(02:27:58):
lot of leagues in Europe do not like trying to
deal with breakaways. We saw this with a Super Cup
and you know, your goal for Wrexham should be getting
up to the Premier League.

Speaker 1 (02:28:08):
You can worry about Europe later. Trust me.

Speaker 9 (02:28:10):
Conference League is fine and dandy, but you don't skip
the beat. Keep to the pace. They'll do it for us, Bernie,
We'll see you next time on the World of Soccer.

Speaker 2 (02:28:22):
All right. Like I said, we covered all.

Speaker 12 (02:28:24):
We talked football, which is spelled foot b l. Well
we also talk the other football, which is spelled futbol,
that we commonly refer to in this country as soccer.

Speaker 2 (02:28:41):
All right. Coming up when we wrap up the Bernie
Fraddles Show. And amongst the many names that are being
banned about in the new coaching round coaching carousel in
the NFL where hope always springs eternal until it doesn't,
all of a sudden, two names have emerged. How serious

(02:29:04):
is it? I don't know where does it end up?
I don't know. But one denied having interest, but a
new report suggests otherwise, whereas the other has interests and
his name's been percolating as a potential candidate in this

(02:29:25):
coaching carousel. But my god, given what happened and how
he exited three years ago, I don't know how you
sell this press conference. Who are those two names? I
will share them? Coming up. I'm Bernie Fraddle. We're a
comedy line from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio tarrac
dot Com studios. Keep it locked, You're listening to the

(02:29:45):
Bernie Fraddle Show on Fox Sports Radio or wrapping up
on the Bernie Fratle Show Fox Sports Radio, been comedy
Alive from the Tarrat dot Com studios and uh here
in Las Vegas, Fox Sports Radio Department, every dundasty department.
Before I go any further, though, I want to thank

(02:30:07):
my broadcast team back in Los Angeles. They've been with
me since eleven pm Pacific time on Saturday night. Mark
and Shay, great job as always, a lot of fun
tonight with brand new fool what my name? Turning all
the dials, keeping us glued together, lining up the guests,
and making sure everything goes smoothly keeping the show on

(02:30:29):
the air. It's never easy. The trick is making it
look easy. Appreciate the teamwork. Of course, I'll be back
on these airwaves next Friday night, which would be what
that would be January seventeenth, yep, eleven pm Pacific for
another rousing condition of the Bernie Frattle Show. But a

(02:30:51):
lot of stuff between now and then, including a nice
wildcard slate that resumes with the tripleheader later today about
seven hours and twelve minutes Denver in Buffalo, and we'll
go from there now spend fair amount of time on
the coaching carousel to night in the National Football League,
which is always a big time talking point at you know,

(02:31:14):
in January, and one particular coach has repeatedly denied having
interest in the National Football League. He's had some success
in college. He's forty and eighteen overall, after he had
a good run at Jackson State before landing the Colorado job.
And you know he he's landed a big time star

(02:31:37):
recruit at quarterback to attend Colorado next year. And you know,
his son, Shudor Lee's and Dion Sanders has consistently said
he loves Colorado and plans to stay. But yet this
past week there is reporting that appears to be at
odds with that. According to Vincent Bonciori of the Las

(02:31:58):
Vegas Review Journal, apparently told him that Sanators quote has
a very strong interest in the Raiders' job. Now do
I think Deon Sanders would get the Raiders job. I
think he got a better chance of Led Zeppelin re
recording the Gilligans Island theme song and selling a million
copies in Dion getting that job. And I think Dion

(02:32:21):
should stay in college because he is that quote surrogate, father, coach,
mentor teacher. He checks a lot of box I think
he does. I think he does a really good job,
all right. And it's not even clear that the Shud
or Sanaders would fallow number six at the Raiders, or
whether or not the Raiders would have the appetite to
trade up or put themselves in a position to drive.
I mean, I've read reports where a lot of teams

(02:32:43):
don't even have shudor Sanders great as a first round prospect.
But that's a conversation for a different day. Let's let's
not get too convoluted here. The truth of the matter
is is that there are rumblings in the ether that
since the Raiders fired Antony Pierce, their head coach and
their GM Tom Tolesco just about a week ago, they

(02:33:04):
give themselves a fresh start across the board, and Deon
Sanders all of a sudden is allegedly showing some interest.
Now Tom Brady's gonna have a big say in both hires,
and I don't think Tom wants Deon Sanders. I think
he wants Ben Johnson. And I don't know if you're
gonna get Ben Johnson either, But it's something to follow. Okay,

(02:33:26):
did you really think Bill Belichick would end up at
North Carolina? Yeah? Right, neither did I. So there's one
coach who said he had no interest and now allegedly
has interest. Well, here's another coach that if you would
have asked me three years ago, will he ever find
himself as a head coach of the National Football League again,

(02:33:49):
you would have been scratching your head. But the question
is now raised officially, will John Gruden be a twenty
twenty five coaching candidate? I don't know, but Gruden's name
has been percolating for weeks as a potential guy in

(02:34:09):
the mix for the coaching carousel that's now here now.
I suppose in some universe you could say you shouldn't
be too surprised because after Ben Johnson and Mike Vrabel,
who are the no brainer candidates for twenty twenty five,
there's a lot of names out there, right, Brian Flores,

(02:34:33):
Jesse Mentor, Cliff Kingsbury, Liam Cohen, Aaron Glenn, Todd, Monkin,
Joe Brady, Vance, Joseph you're even hearing you know, Steve Spagnola. Okay, whatever,
you get the picture. We don't need to do this
Saturday Night Roll Call. But on the other hand, it's
stunning that you would hear Gruden's name because he has
an active lawsuit against the NFL and Commissioner Roger Goodell.

(02:34:54):
And it's quite a bit different than Brian Flores's lawsuit
because Gruden's lawsuit stems from his forced resignation three years
ago as a result of these incredibly over the top
inappropriate emails that he sent to a former Washington Redskins executive.
And we all know it was wrong on multiple levels,

(02:35:16):
probably for someone to try to publicize these and weaponize
these emails in an effort to take Gruden out five
games into the regular season. But these were pretty salacious emails,
and any owner who would be interested in hiring Gruden,
you have to imagine they'd be taking a lot of
heat from Park Avenue, which is where, of course, the

(02:35:36):
NFL resides. In the end, it's a risk reward analysis,
as is the case always, right, we're not talking about
hiring Vince Lombardi. We're talking about John Gruden. We're not
talking about Don Juler, Bill Walsh. Gruden coached two hundred
and twenty nine games in the NFL. He's five games
over five hundred, he actually has a slightly lower winning

(02:35:58):
percentage than Jeff Fisher. And during Gruden's second goal round
with the Raiders, which just ended three years ago, even
though it seems like a long time ago, Gruden was
twenty two and thirty one, zero playoff appearances in three
full seasons. He was three and two of the year
he got knocked out. The Raiders actually made it to
the postseason that year under Rich Bisaccia, who was not

(02:36:20):
hired as to his interim tenure. So you say to yourself,
who would you rather have Gruden? Would you rather have
them than Gruden and Mike McCarthy. Actually, McCarthy's sixty three
games over five hundred the regular season. That's fifty more wins,
one fewer loss and you get the picture, all things considered,
in fairness to Gruden, I don't see how this makes

(02:36:43):
any sense whatsoever. There's going to be major blowback the
pr consequences. How do you sell that press conference and
put John Gruden up there? With all due respect, but
some teams are desperate to win and they think Gruden
is their guy. Stranger things have happened. You've heard me say,
Bob Buker, once to hit a home run off Sandy Kofax,

(02:37:03):
so we're gonna continue to watch it. In the meantime,
We'll see you next Friday Night. Keep it locked up next,
Andy Furman, Fox Sports Radio,

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