Dan Beyer & Kerry Rhodes React to Wild Card Weekend and the Patriots Hiring Mike Vrabel

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
A happy Wildcard Sunday to you, Carrie. Are we actually
gonna get a game in one of these playoff contests?

Speaker 3 (00:09):
I hope, so, I hope so this this was looking
a little promising early, the.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Eagles jumping out ahead of the Packers. It is the
game that we are focusing on in this part of
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(00:34):
buying should be. Monci just told you the Eagles are
up on the Packers seven to nothing. The first three
playoff games we've got of this NFL Wild Card weekend
weren't blowouts, but I don't think competitive would be a
word that you would use in any of them. Denver
hung around for about a half Pittsburgh took forever to
get going in their game, and while the Chargers started

(00:54):
out great, that she didn't end well and the Houston
Texans ended up dominating that game. That's where I want
to start with this discussion carry because I almost feel
like we're having the same discussion that we did about
three or four weeks ago when the college football Playoff
ended up having their first round games and you really
didn't get much competition in those games. Penn State, smu,

(01:17):
Ohio State, Tennessee, Texas dominated Clemson, and Notre Dame took
care of Indiana with relative ease. And we're saying blowouts
early on. Is there any correlation from what we saw
in college football to now what we're getting in the
NFL with these early wildcard games in their playoff bracket.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
It sure looks like it. It's one of those things
where you know, obviously you think it's a cool thing,
a cool story to have that extra team get into
the field into the playoffs. Right the NFL has been
a six a six bid, six bid league, and you know,
for a long time, and then you introduced that seventeen
to get in and so you're able to stretch that

(01:56):
wildcard out to the extra wildcard type of game and
you're getting what you're getting that on that product being
shown on the field on all levels, because those teams
probably shoudn't deserve to be in the playoffs, right, and
so you're trying to make money as a franchise. That's
a shield, that's the NFL, but the product the game
isn't as competitive.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
It's funny because we saw the NFL season where the
Kansas City Chiefs ended up going fifteen and two and
the Detroit Lions went fifteen and two. A lot of wins,
a lot of wins with those two teams. And then
you look at the bottom half of the NFL where
you have three three and fourteen teams, you have four

(02:38):
four loss teams, a lot of bad football, and you're
wondering what is in the middle, And right now, I
don't know if there's a lot in the middle. I
think we all wanted this Bill's Ravens matchup that we're
gonna get next week. I did think that the Chargers
were going to beat the Texans. I did not think
it was going to be a bye like like Rex
Ryan said, but it felt like maybe it was a

(02:59):
bye for the Houston Texans the other way around the
way that they took care of the Chargers yesterday, and
then you've got the game between the Pittsburgh Steelers and
the Baltimore Ravens, where I just felt it was going
to be closer because they were division rivals. That's what
you would have between those two teams. And now what
we're figuring out is that in this range of teams
that we have in the NFL this season, this thirty

(03:20):
two team range, those fifteen win teams, those thirteen fourteen
win teams like we had, are significantly better than the
other teams in the National Football League. We're not talking
about the three and four win teams. We're talking about
the nine win teams. We're talking about the ten win teams.
And I think that's what we got with the NFL
this year. It's just a very very top heavy season

(03:43):
with these with these squads.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
Yeah, Rex Ryants has a lot of stuff. Huh, Yeah,
this has a lot of stuff. But no, it's crazy
because the top teams are the top team for a reason,
and they would be in any season, and so this
thing of seeing them that's easy. But the actual quote
unquote contenders. We like to widen that gap of teams

(04:06):
that we think can be sneaky and be competitive, they
aren't really going to be competitive in a field where
the best teams are in, it just doesn't. That's not
how it goes. It makes for another week of football
that you know we're gonna tune in to watch because
we're fans, but the product isn't a great product. And
so where do we draw the line between that?

Speaker 2 (04:26):
You think and you say it's all dollar signs, that's
and I don't think that that's shocking, But I will
say this what I do think that the NFL, in
addition to allowing Amazon to bid on another playoff game
or allowing another network to do it, there's this other
portion of this schedule and how it plays out that

(04:48):
affects the regular season. So the NFL decides we're going
to expand and we're going to include now seven teams
in the playoffs. We're gonna make it a bigger window.
We're going to add two wild card games to each week,
and now you've got a super wild Card weekend, which
they don't call it anymore. That's fine. College football is like,
we're going to go from four to twelve to try
to develop and figure out a new national champion or

(05:12):
new way to determine a national champion and allow more teams.
College football's version of it, and why people don't like
it is because they feel that it has now diminished
the regular season. Aside from money carry, I think the
NFL and what Major League Baseball are saying is we'll
also take the money, but we also feel this enhances
our regular season product. And the way that they do

(05:35):
is because more teams are of our open and available
to make the postseason to the end than previous And
so I don't know if the NFL hates that these
games stink, because to your point, they're making more money.
And I actually think that the real value is last
week in watching if Denver and the Chiefs completely laid down,

(06:00):
you were able to put that Bengals game in a
window against the Pittsburgh Steelers and it felt like it
meant something. And it felt like those games meant something.
And over the last three weeks of the season, if
you didn't have the seventh team in the AFC, we
basically would have known what the playoff pixer was with
the Chargers and Broncos maybe battling for that last playoff spot,

(06:20):
there wouldn't have been as much drama. So while I
think that people are going to draw a comparison to
how bad the games have been so far in the
NFL to what we've got in college football. I actually
think they're completely opposite in the reasons aside from money,
those are the same, but in the reasons why you
have them. For Major League Baseball, it allows more teams
to be interested going down the stretch. You're adding another team. Look,

(06:43):
we're in the wildcard race. Granted this team is ten
games ahead of us in the division, but we're in
the wildcard race. That allows more teams to be in NFL.
Same thing college football. I don't think that's necessarily the
case right now. I actually think that it's diminished the
regular season because there are some games that just don't
mean as much when a team end up losing one
hundred percent. Diminished the collegiate game for sure.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
I mean, when I played, you couldn't lose one game,
Like if you lost a game, your season was over. Yeah,
and so the importance of every game definitely mattered. I
do think there is a level of Yes, last week
we were wondering there were scenarios, a whole bunch of them,
of the teams that could sneak into the playoffs or whatever,
even though they were far fetched. Ideas that happened when

(07:24):
there was sixteens, but it happened so many people still
viable for that last spot.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Was cool, so I understand that, But.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
Was it really because the other team had fifteen wins
and they're not going to play so it didn't matter.
So if it's still condensed down at sixteen, I think
it still holds more weight there in my opinion.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
And I think that there's when you actually look at
these brackets Buffalo and Denver, because we had three AFC
games at first. If the NFL doesn't expand their playoffs,
we still basically get two blowout games. Yes, it's the
Texans facing the Chargers and it's the Steelers falling to
the Baltimore Ravens. It's just the fact that Buffalo would
get a buye instead of having the lay Denver and

(08:03):
instead the NFL makes a lot of money, a lot
of money money. They put Josh Allen through sixty game
minutes of possible injury to make you some more money.
That's what they do. But there have been very few instances.
Green Bay is one of the instances where it's worked out,
but where the seventh seed has been a factor in
the NFL playoffs. Yeah, and it's not meant to be

(08:25):
a knock on the Denver Broncos, who carry I told
you last week that I thought that they would give
Buffalo a run for their money. When you only have
the ball for under twenty minutes of the game, it's
not going to happen. They hung with Buffalo for about
a half, but again, this isn't horseshoes and hand grenades.
This is you got to stick through it. Buffalo wears
them down and ends up getting a dominating win. But

(08:46):
the seven seeds that we've seen so far in the
NFL playoffs, aside from what Green Bay did last year
and maybe another instance, there just hasn't been that impact.
And I don't think that we should expect to see
it considering I think that it actually is more about
the NFL's regular season than it is about making the
playoffs even better.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
I think I think the only way that will happen
for a seventh seed is if they have injuries early
and they were a team that were already predicted to
be a really good team throughout the year, and they're
able to get healthy with that extended game. You know,
have been a little bit longer season to get back
into the mix and then they get hot down the
stretch and then carry out and possibly win it. But

(09:26):
that's the only scenario you'll see it. I can see
it really working. Well, Look, this is hypothetical, so this
is not fair.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
And again I am not piling on the Denver Broncos
because I think what they've done this season has been
It's been good. Yeah, it's been really good. I was
about to say magnificent. That felt like a little bit
of a stretch. But bo Nicks, I mean they have
the season that he has, the way that their defense
is turned around. Just a really really good season for
a team that had the second longest playoffs are out
in the NFL. Yes, entering the season. Sorry about your

(09:52):
Jets still having the number one spot in that, but
I think you look back to last week and we
talked about the regular season, and this also kind of
I think would make the NFL frustrated that Kansas City
laid down like they did against Denver. Are we sure
that Buffalo played the best, seventh best team in the
AFC because Cincinnati again we figured out a way where

(10:14):
their game could matter on Saturday because of this matchup
but then the question is maybe Cincinnati is the better
team in that scenario.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
All right, you want to know the next step, then
make all the games mandatory and you have to play them.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
You can't sit them. You can't do the whole the.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
NBA, what is it called the when they rested, the
management can't do the lower management. They got to play.
Then it would have meant something. But it's going to
be hard to do that. That's a you know, Kansas
City clinched so long, so long ago, so it would
have been fun.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Though.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
I would have loved to see Kansas City actually come
out and play them and knocked them out.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
And I hate to say it because it's you kind
of just hit on it. There's no fix. The fix
is not expanding the playoffield the sixteen. Nobody wants to
see that. Nobody wants to see half the league get in.
Nobody wants to see the number one seed have to
play a game. I think that there's there's value in
getting that buy and getting that rest. This is just
the way that it is. But I think what we're
going to hear is a lot of comparisons to college football,

(11:07):
and why do these wild card weekends are these opening
weekends of the playoff stink. And I think that there's
a couple of reasons, but I think that the NFL's
reason is money, but it's also to make the regular
season important and has nothing to do in sorting out
who is actually a super Bowl contender, because Carrie, I
don't think. And it's funny because I've asked you this question,

(11:27):
and I actually asked our executive producer Ian Roddy this
question on the podcast that Ian produces with me and
Mike Harmon. I want your flex of how many legitimate teams?
And this was about a month and a half ago, Ian,
maybe mid November. I said, two months ago, I said,
how many teams legitimately do you think have a chance
to win the Super Bowl? And Ian's Ian? Your answer

(11:51):
to that was, I think a big fat two, right.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
Yeah, big fat two is the Lions and the Eagles.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
At the time. Yeah, at the time, Mike had five
and I had six. Got sick, Yeah, yeah, you had
six two And we didn't say nine, we didn't say ten,
we didn't say eleven because that's it's not the way
that the NFL is built. But that's not going to
change anything. They want the money. They want more teams
in for the regular season. It's why they put up
those graphics in week nine and they tell you that

(12:18):
your team's in the hunt, even though if you're a
real fan of the team, you know if your team's
in the hunt hot Like that's on a two and
nine in the hunt. I was like, hold on, wait,
wait time now and nine. There was a time a
couple of years ago where they had fourteen teams on
the screen in showing the NFC playoff picture. There were
only sixteen teams in the NFC. It would have been

(12:38):
better used to just show us who wasn't in the
hunts exactly. That would have been a lot easier. Chris Purfat,
technical producer, and I think to that.

Speaker 5 (12:45):
Point too, there's also the sub discussion about like is
it fair you know, Minnesota Vikings on the road for
this entire playoffs because you know you lose that final game.
But that's the drama they want at the end of
the season for the divisions. Yes, even in the sense
that we have a larger playoffs make it more equitable?
Why when you know? And also I think someone I
think it was Bo who brought up this point, like

(13:06):
the teams who are winning divisions, they're gonna get the
gates from hosting home games, like they don't want to
give that up either. There's a lot to do with
this playoffs.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
I think of the first at your hoop head carry,
the first round of the NBA playoffs is now kind
of eh yeah yeah. And maybe it's because it's seven
games it is, you know, instead of like the five
that we had back in the day. But it does
feel like it's kind of eh, it is. And so
Chris talking about the NFL trying to build drama. That drama,

(13:36):
by the way, is drama in the regular season, right,
not in the postseason. Again, the sacrifices that that we're
taking this weekend to watch these games are We're paid
off a week ago, so it's kind of like we're
paying them back now. But yeah, it's the NBA is
the same problems where I think the first round of
the NBA playoffs really don't necessarily matter anymore.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
No, I mean, and you and that parallel you made
to the NBA. You know, I am a hoopad and
that I mean, think about the Denver Nuggets beating the
SuperSonics back in the day. Yeah, in the best of five.
They wouldn't beat them in the seven game series. So
like the excitement of that actual short time it was
that was part of the phenomenon of why people loved it.
You get sixteen games, you get sixteen games, you got

(14:21):
six teams, and you know that seventeen the extra team
that's outside that possibly could have gotten in. That was
still excitement. It was still drama, like we had to
fight for that. Still like that was the thing that
made every game count even more. The extra game it
just doesn't sit well. And you can see all these
older guys now talking about even the records. The records
aren't legitimate now because that extra like it's just another

(14:44):
conversation that we don't need around the game.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
All right. So, now that we've rained on the entire
NFL playoffs, I do have good news to tell you
if you're a Philadelphia Egos fan. It's good news. Egos
are driving up seven to nothing on Green Bay and
Jalen Hurts is just to Devonte Smith to set them
up for a first down or at about the eleven
year yard line. So the Eagles are sitting pretty right
now up seven to nothing. Johan Dotson caught a touchdown
pass from Jalen Hurts in the earlier in the first

(15:09):
quarter should say fourteen yard line, not the eleven yard line,
So that's where the Eagles will set up. But that's
how the Eagles scored first about forty seconds to go
in this first quarter in Green Bay, playing from behind.
As we speak, I think complete past to Johan Dotson
will bring up second and ten. He is Carrie Rhoades.
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the National Championship game is set, but there's a lot
of NFL to get to, including what's happening in Pittsburgh
and also what can happen tonight in Tampa Bay. And

(15:53):
now that the New England Patriots have found their head coach,
can we forgive them for all their wrongdoings over the
last week. We'll answer that question next to here on
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Speaker 2 (16:21):
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out there. Wild Card game right now in Philadelphia, early
in the second quarter. Eagles have a ten tozering lead
on Green Bay. Eagles getting a touchdown pass from Jalen

(16:44):
Hurts to Johann Dotson from eleven yards out, and then
Jake Elliott is just kick the field goal and now
we have a turnover.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
Yes, Sir Darius Slade Junior with the interception on a
deep ball attempt by Jordan Love here, and you know
that's allway. That's been the issue with or I think
the concern with Jordan Love in these situations, losing Kristin
Watson for this week and having with Watson correct with
the injury to come back and now he's sort of
a playmaker and having to be behind early. He has

(17:15):
a propensity to try to force things so that that
was evident on that play right there.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
I think that's a common theme in the NFL playoffs.
I think justin Herbert yesterday felt like he had to
do a lot more than maybe he did in the game,
and then it ended up snowballing and he ends up
throwing four interceptions. We'll talk about his performance as well.
I did tease the New England Patriots have hired Mike Rabel.
What a week that it was. Because Carrie, we were

(17:42):
sitting in these chairs exactly one week ago at around
this time that Gerrod Mayo was fired. And the first
thing that Carrie roads, I'll let you say it. You said, well,
I guess that's Vibel, that is, And that's exactly what happened.
And I will say this, Carrie wasn't the only one,
but we weren't talk to everybody, but carry was along

(18:02):
those lines that Rabel is the guy, and there were
a lot of signs pointing to it. And then a D. D.
Kinkabwallas said that in fact, Rabel interviewed with the Jets
just to put the pressure on the Patriots to be
like make a move or not, because I want that job.
So then it felt like the entire week was a
bit of a charade. And I asked you, Carry Rhoads,

(18:24):
was it a charade? And do we need to continue
with this sort of fakeness if you will. In the NFL,
if the New England Patriots were set on hiring Mike
Rabel all along, yeah, no is that was their plan.
They wanted that guy.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
I thought this was one of those bridge hires, which
it happens in the NFL. I know, no one will
say that it happens. And when their guy was available
and was eager to be a part of it as well,
it was gonna happen. And so you think about a
guy like Mayo that you know goes in there for
a year, and we talked about this. The conversations around

(19:03):
to hire, we don't know, We don't know what happened
behind the scenes.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
We don't know those things.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
I just as a player being around organizations and having
a feel, you want to hire people that you know,
you want to be around, that you have an affinity for,
and you know can do the job.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
And Rabel's all three of those. For the craft. You
immediately said, this is not a race thing, This isn't
this isn't firing Drowden Mayo because of the color of
his skin and bringing in Mike Rabel because of the
color of his skin. But Aaron Glenn did decline to
interview for New England. There were other interviews that the
Patriots did to satisfy the Rooney rule that just seemed
really out of nowhere Byron Leftwich Hamilton.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
It was like a double interview that day, was it. Yeah,
the way they put it on the graphic, So yeah,
so what are we doing? Like it was like it
was what they talked to him for ten minutes like that.
That's the that's the question. I feel like we're suspended
in this spot carry that we just we're trying to
appease everybody, and nobody is being appeased. And I would

(20:08):
say that for someone like Mike Rabel, who's telling the Patriots,
all right, I'll interview for the Jets if you're not
going to end up making a move.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
And so they do make the move for Mayo. So
at that point when they fire him, they know that
Mike Vrabel is their head coach. Why do we need
to go through this charade? Then? To I just I
feel it's such a nineteen eighties rule, and I just
I don't know if I'm wrong, but to me, it's

(20:36):
just the re rule now just seems to be so outdated,
so much so that Aaron Glenn's like, look, I got
a Super Bowl that I'm going to try to win
with the Detroit Lions. I would love to be a
head coach. I'll interview for the five other vacancies, but
the one that I'm not going to do is New England.
I don't think it was as much about time as
it was just the farce of the whole setup.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
A thousand percent. And I applaud him for not doing it.
I mean, you're it's a Surrey, like you said, I'm
not going to be a part of that. And for him,
he's going to be a head coach. That job is
already taken. Nobody we knew that. Everybody knows that. So
the guys that are going in for interviews, it's almost
the equivalent of an actor going in for an audition.

(21:17):
You know, they have the person they wrote that character
for in mind already. I've done this multiple times where
now I'm at the point of, oh, it's a big
show for ABC. No, I'm not doing that I know
they have, they have somebody in mind for that. The
whole process of a struggling actor I'm t tied all together,
is you just keep going on auditions. You keep going

(21:39):
on these things because you want to impress. You want
to impress the casting director so they can have a
job later on down the line. And it makes sense
when you're struggling and you need a job, When you're
established and you know how good you are as a talent,
as a head coach, why would you subject yourself to
something just because sure, and I agree with that you shouldn't.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
And the difference that I see into what you're doing
is there may be a director that has a show
or a pilot that they want for a different network
nine months from that point, and they're going to remember,
They're going to remember you. I don't think Robert Kraft
if it doesn't work out with Mike rabel is like
remember when we interviewed Pap Hamilton that went on like, no,
that doesn't happen. So it's not apples to apples in

(22:21):
that scenario. And I get, like why you would do it?
I honestly get why if you were an offensive coordinator
or if you were a quarterbacks coach that hadn't gotten
any sort of look and somebody wants you for that position.
I think that's good experience. But don't get you know,
don't get confused of what this past week was. This

(22:42):
was the New England Patriots trying to jump through all
these hoops and going over, you know, all these hurdles
just to satisfy a requirement that I'm not sure is
even required anymore. Do you think we would see fewer
African American coaches hired if we didn't have a Rooney
rules head coaches?

Speaker 3 (23:00):
No, No, it was just to appease the situation. At
that time. It was like, Okay, look see we're doing
all we can. This is what the NFL does. There's
there's a problem, We're going to show this solution, and
we're going to make sure we highlight this solution. And
this is what that's all it is. At the end
of the day, especially with the New England on which
we're talking about, is we know who the guy is already.

(23:22):
I don't think anybody outside of I don't think anybody
outside thought anybody else is getting that job.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
This is interesting because what basically is what you're saying
is that the Rooney rule never was even worthwhile from
the beginning.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
No, No, all that is is somebody saying, look, see
we did something about it. Yeah, I haven't done anything
about it. Hire people, then it doesn't have to be
required to have a person of color come in because
this is the law. It's almost like it's it makes
it even worse, like we have to do it, so
let's do it.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
Yeah, just just to see a graphic being made and
hearing it you're like huh yeah, like wait a second,
are where were we? What are we actually doing here?
And it's no disrespect to Byron left to it. Troo
at one time was a head coaching candidate. I just
don't think now is the time for that and to
get that interview. Just yeah, I think it's a bad
look for the NFL. Was it? The Patriots got their guy.

(24:15):
There needs to be some sort of there needs to
be some sort of alteration because I don't think anybody's
really happy with it. Mike Frabel had to wait a
week before everything was finalized for him to get hired.
But again the New England Patriots hiring the head coach
before anybody else does. They did the last year with
Gerrod Mayo. But now, if you're an assistant that went
to New England, you knew this week was a farce.

(24:38):
I don't even know how would handle it. Yeah, I'm
with you. I'm glad. Aaron Glenn said, thanks, but no thanks,
all right, he has carrier oads. I'm dan Byer. The
Eagles so far dominating the Green Bay Packers both on
the scoreboard and in the yardage care category. For the
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Speaker 7 (24:59):
Well, it's not going well for Green Bay so far, Fellas.
I mean, when you fumble on the opening kickoff, it's
never a good side. Even though I don't know if
I don't know if the Eagles recovered that. I know
that's what they declared, but if you look at it
up close and personal the video was circulating, I thought
the Packers recovered on that fumble, so they gave it

(25:20):
to the Eagles, and the Eagles took full advalance of
full advantage. Jalen Hurts connected with Johan Dotson on an
eleven yard touchdown pass. They've hit another field goal, but
the Packers had a fumble, a punt, an interception. They
now have the ball back, but they are losing ten
zero early in the second quarter. The Bills are moving
on though. They crushed the Broncos thirty one to seven.

(25:41):
Josh Allen was twenty of twenty six two hundred and
seventy two yards and two touchdowns. Bo Nicks and the
Denver I was gonna say, Nuggets, Broncos scored on their
opening drive.

Speaker 8 (25:55):
Yeah, And I was like, wait.

Speaker 7 (25:56):
They just played, so I'm not crazy, but yeah, the Broncos,
you know, came out swinging on their opening drive, getting
a touchdown, and then they didn't score again the rest
of the game. Thirty one seven was the final score.
Nixon his first playoff game, thirteen of twenty two, one
hundred and forty four yards in a touchdown. The Bills
are going to host the Ravens in the AFC Divisional
Round next weekend. It's not for sure yet whether it's

(26:18):
Saturday or Sunday, but it's gonna happen next weekend for sure.
I know everyone's been waiting for that, though I wasn't
waiting for that. One still to come in the NFC
Walk Card playoffs, the Buccaneers and the Commanders. That's going
to start at eighth Eastern. As you guys mentioned, the
Patriots are hired Mike Frable. He's been there, played there,
when Super Bowls there. He's a member of the team's
Hall of Fame. He knows what he's doing. NFL Network
is reporting that the Bears are interested in interviewing Notre

(26:40):
Dame head coach Marcus Freeman about their head coaching vacancy
getting ready for the Natty. He has plenty of time
because when's the Naty in three months. He's got plenty
of time to discuss.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Yes, okay, gotcha?

Speaker 5 (26:51):
My bad, My bad.

Speaker 7 (26:53):
In the NBA wedding game currently going on, it's a
close one between the Kings and the Bulls, with Sacramento
on top one twenty to one to fifteen three minutes
to the Nicks crushed the Bucks at Madison Square Garden
one forty to one oh six. Jalen Brunson forty four
points and six assists in the win, and the Nuggets
were losing, they came back to beat the Maps, who
were playing with al Kyrie Irving without Luka Dancic, but

(27:13):
the Nuggets won one twelve to one oh one. Nikola
Jokic nineteen points, eighteen rebounds, nine assists.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
That man, that's just a regular day for him.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Him and uh and I think Russ.

Speaker 7 (27:24):
Russell was it.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
Was it two days ago? Yeah, they just both had
thirty eight Yeah, thirty Yeah.

Speaker 7 (27:29):
They both had triple doubles.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (27:30):
They put him on the starting lineup, and then things
seem to be working the plan.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
Well.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Us happy in the mile Highjaza apparently.

Speaker 6 (27:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (27:36):
No, I'm a fan of Westbrook, so I'm happy for him.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
Back to you, guys, Manzi, don't go anywhere, because you
are going to be a lifeline, as is he and
Roddy and as is Chris Perfact. Let's lads on, gentlemen,
our first edition in twenty twenty five of Easy as one, two, three,
four starts right now. Let's do it. Carrie Rhodes is
in the hot seat. We put this on hiatus during

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the NFL regular season, but once the regular season ends,
we play this game. And the reason why baby, we're
we're the reason we're doing this now is because usually
when we do it, it's gonna be likely in the
meat of the Eagles Packers game. So if there's stuff
going on, we don't want to be taking lifelines and
distracting from the game. Right now, it's pretty safe. We're

(28:22):
in the second quarter, and if something happens, we'll pop up.

Speaker 5 (28:24):
Not spoil the meat, no.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Dude, not spoil the meat, unlike the meat that was
in a refrigerator when our power went out this week. Yeah,
so throw that away all right? Easy as one, two, three, four.
Is a game where I give Carrie a topic. He
has to give me some of the answers, not all
of them. His goal is to get a perfect score
of ten, and he has three lifelines to use, maazi

(28:47):
Ian and Chris Purfett. Are you ready to go?

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Of course?

Speaker 2 (28:50):
The topics NBA college football at NFL. We start out
Carrie Rhodes, name one of two NBA teams with the
longest current win streaks in the league.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
Oh, I'll go, that's Cleveland.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
I didn't even want to use the life though. I
don't need a life, all right, show me the Cavaliers
twelve games in a row. The other one the Sacramento Kings.
That's right, Maybe Mike Brown did need to be fighting.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
And that was a trick question because it would have
been OKC and Cleveland. I know, I'm on it. I'm aware,
I know Dan.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Now, I know Dan. I try to trick you. I
just try to make sure you're on your you know
P's and q's name. Two of three carry NFL teams
with a total of six All Pro selections. In the
AP All Pro teams that were released this week, six
teams or first and second teams announced. Three teams had

(29:41):
six All Pro selections combined with the first and second teams.
Name two of them, two of them.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
I know the Ravens is one.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
And then I'll go Chris. I'll go Chris for my
lifeline on this one.

Speaker 5 (29:55):
Yep, Lions they had four first team and two second team.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
Well there you go, all right, show me the Detroit Lions.
That is correct. Chris Purfett gave you the answer there.
And show me the Baltimore Ravens six as well. And
if you were to think that it was the Kansas
City Chiefs, you'd be wrong. Yoh, Carrie knew it. They
only had four. It's the Philadelphia Eagles who are playing
right now, that had six All Pro players. Wow, Carrie Rhodes, right,

(30:22):
now three for three and easy as one, two, three four.
So far so far starting out the year perfect. All right,
this is a Wikipedia based question. Yes, don't worry, it's
not stat News. Name three of four college football programs

(30:43):
with the most national championships? Okay, recognized? Not Some schools
will say that we were national championships that year when
nobody else thinks they are. So we aren't counting those.
We aren't counting school recognized. We're counting I guess for
this purpose of this exercise, Wikipedia recognized national championships. So

(31:06):
nothing funky. No Dan Bayer's two thousand and three national
champion none of that.

Speaker 5 (31:12):
No, no Alabama special here. Yeah, like, hey, can we
claim this? You're sure just to pump up the numbers.
But schools are the most college football national championships?

Speaker 3 (31:20):
All right, there's gonna be a little tricky about I
think I'll go Notre Dame. Okay, I want to say
one of the military academies. I would probably say Navy.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
You have two lifelines available for you.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
I mean, mons, what you got you got something in
I go Manzi. Okay, I'll go Mancy first. I know
Notre Dame, and I would say Navy but I'm not.

Speaker 7 (31:43):
I hear why you want to go Navy. I just
don't know how comfortable are you? I know, menither Am
I crazy to say Alabama?

Speaker 3 (31:49):
I mean I would guess is that just like is.

Speaker 7 (31:52):
That recency bias? You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (31:54):
Like I don't Yeah, I know, Alabama, let's go. I
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (31:58):
I'd say Alabama one of not like like Yale or Princeton.
Haven't they been around for forever?

Speaker 3 (32:03):
Yes, one of those? Yes, yes, yes, I remember when. Yeah, Alabama?
So we need three? Right, yes, Alabama Notre Dame. And
you said is one.

Speaker 7 (32:18):
Of those which one likes?

Speaker 3 (32:25):
This is?

Speaker 2 (32:25):
This is FBS Division one national championships? Okay, yeah, you
can ask you can ask Ian, Hey.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
What'd you got?

Speaker 4 (32:35):
I want to say us season? There, no way, I
don't think so maybe don't say.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
It then yeah, I don't know. All right, you might
get get a final answer. Alabama Notre Dame and.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
What oh I mean all the Oklahoma, Texas, Ohio states.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
All I mean, it's so they're so close Yale, Prinston's.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
Maybe maybe all right, I'm all right, Alabama, Notre Dame.

Speaker 7 (33:11):
I don't know, maybe Ohio State because that's his team.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
I know that like that. I know I'm going I'm
gonna say Oklahoma.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
You're gonna say Oklahoma. Okay, says nobody. Nobody did mean
anything else? That was your final answer? Yeah sure, Show
me Alabama thirteen, number one on the list. Yes, yeah,
tough to touch that. Show me Notre Dame second on
the list. Eight, Show me Oklahoma.

Speaker 5 (33:40):
You guys would have probably had it with Princeton.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
Too, what I thought, Oklahoma seven USC seven, that would
have worked as well. I'm telling you there you go
in my bad Yale Princeton. They aren't recognized as winning
national championships. However, are Me did win two in nineteen
forty four and nineteen forty five. So when you're thinking military,

(34:05):
attata military, and you're thinking about it, Ohio State as
an opportunity if they win to win their seventh coming up,
I knew it was Notre Dame would get to number
nine if they were to win. And then actually, jew
I said, Oklahoma. The last second is twenty twenty five,
the year of carry roads. We'll find out as easy
as one, two, three, four will continue. What I can

(34:26):
tell you is Brandon McManus has missed a field goal
for the Green Bay Packers. The Philadelphia Eagles continue to
lead their wild card game ten nothing, which just over
five minutes to go until halftime. He's Carry Roads. I'm
Dan Bayer. Can carry throw a perfect game in easy
as one two three four. Find out next year on

(34:47):
Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 6 (34:50):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio once again. Here's
Dan Bayer and Carry Rhoads.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Still a ten nothing game, Eagles on top of the Packers,
three twenty five to go until halftime. Philadelphia forced the punt,
so Green Bay gets the football back. Hit Carry up
at Carry twenty five roads. You can find me at
dan Byer on Fox that's on next. You can also
find me on Blue Sky at dan Byer. You're perfect
right now, as easy as one, two three four. I

(35:19):
hope they don't wrestle a perfect score away from you
like the Eagles did on that opening kickoff. That monster
was talking about, Well, we're gonna try to start twenty
twenty five with a drama less easy as one two
three four game. In our final question, Carry Roads, and
I believe all of your lifelines have been used? Am
I correct? That's right? That's right. Name four of five

(35:42):
in oh my goodness, name four of five NFL I
think you forget to get this. Yeah, yeah, this is
nothing new.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
This that shouldn't have surprised you.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
Name four or five NFL teams with the longest active
playoff appearance street So four of the five teams with
the longest playoff X playoff appearance streaks. We know it's
not the Jets, carri we know that.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
That's yeah, they're they're they're not. They're the opposite. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
Here's the cool thing about it is you do have.
It's basically figuring out out of the fourteen teams. Yeah,
who is the longest carry go to work?

Speaker 3 (36:25):
Of course the Chiefs, I would say the Eagles. Okay,
I'm just I'm speaking out loud, Yeah, thinking out loud.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
Absolutely, And I'll tell you what, I'll open it up
to any of the lifelines if you want to raise
a hand as well. So let's start twenty twenty five.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
Look in front of me right now, you got all
the beautiful the helmet helmets here. Let me let me
get hir.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
Steelers Ravens matchup. I do have a Raven's helmet. You'll
see it next week in the divisional playoff set up.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
No, don't.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
Don't try to trick me.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
Because the Ravens they missed the playoffs the year that
Lamar got hurt with back there one one year, so
I know that's not one. I'd say Bills, the Bills.

Speaker 9 (37:12):
I'll say Bills, okay, Chiefs Eagles, Bills makes sense, and
I'd probably say the Buccaneers as well.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
Oh really, okay, I would say that, I think. So
let me see.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
Those your final answers.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
I'm only saying that because you go back the few
years with Brady they made it every year, and then
Baker came on, they made it. They made it those
the ensuing years as well. Okay, So just from you know,
just breaking it down in my mind. Yeah, uh, divisions here,

(37:53):
You good at that.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
You want to final answer? You want to trust it?

Speaker 3 (37:56):
Chiefs, Eagles, Bills and Bucks.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
Final.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
Okay. Let's yeah, let's go find them after. I know
we don't have a lot of Show me the Kansas
City Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
There they are on top, ten straight years of playoff appearances.
Show me the Buffalo Bills. Make it six straight years
of appearances for the Buffalo Bills. Show me the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers. You're right, good, read I'm Tom Brady and
for a perfect score of ten to start twenty twenty
five off perfect show me the Philadelphia Eagles. A somebody

(38:39):
doubted me too. I heard it in my ears.

Speaker 5 (38:42):
I've got a side bet in here with Ian is
the is the Pittsburgh Steelers on this list?

Speaker 2 (38:48):
The Pittsburgh Steelers are not on this list. They keep
going eight and eight.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
Nine is the last one.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
The Packers dan the Pittsburgh's No. The last one is
the Baltimore Ravens. It is the Ravens Steelers two last
year with Mason Rudolph and then this year with Russell Wilson.
But the Ravens do have three. So it's the Chiefs,
the ten Bills, six Buccaneers, five Eagles, four Ravens three.
Are you not into Steelers, Texans, Rams, and Packers all

(39:19):
making it back to back years? Are you not entertained?
That's very good. I thought the Buccaneers one was going
to be a bit of a curveball.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
The only reason I got it is because of your display,
because I had to look at the helmet like see
the teams. That's the only reason.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
I think, again, one of the one of the fourteen,
or you had to whittle it down from the fourteen
to figure it out.

Speaker 5 (39:41):
But so I hope you enjoyed warm up for one, two, three, four,
because next week I know.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
I know how it's gonna ratchet up on the screws.
I'll take my wins how they come. Name your MLS
MVP exactly, Chris would be a perfect lifeline for that,
all right. The Ego lead the Packers ten nothing right
now nearing halftime, two minute warning. Green Bay has the

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football score may not say it, but yardage wise, actually
a pretty even game, something we haven't had much in
the playoffs so far, but Philadelphia on the scoreboard, most
importantly up on green Bay ten nothing. He is carry Rhoads.
I'm Dan Beyer. The guys just mentioned the Pittsburgh Steelers.
What's next for Pittsburgh after the bottom fell out in Baltimore.
We'll tell you next on Fox.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
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Speaker 2 (40:30):
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So now that is three green Bay turnovers in this game,
the first of which led to some an Eagle's touchdown
pass from Jalen Hurts to Johan Dotson, a fumble on
the opening kickoff that sure did appear to be recovered
by green Bay, but a lot goes on in the
pile in that situation. Carry ultimately ruled recovered by the Eagles.

(41:15):
They cash in with points. They kick a field goal
later on. But now Jordan Loves throwing two interceptions, including
here under the two minute warning, and the interception by
Zach Bond actually started because Tucker Kraft ended up not
getting out of his three point stance, kind of lost
his footing and was not where Jordan Love expected him
to be. But Jordan Love is throwing a second interception.

(41:36):
So now the Eagles in green Bay territory with twenty
two seconds left, facing a fourth and four. Again, we're
now talking it's January twelfth, it's December. Having them on
the thirty nine yard line and having Jake Elliott kick
a fifty six yard field goal somewhere in that neighborhood
maybe not the easiest thing to do. With twenty two

(42:00):
seconds left and two timeouts, the Eagles are gonna go
for it here at the green Bay thirty nine yard line,
up ten and now, oh my god, it looks is
Carrie just as the former defensive player feels that the
Eagles ended up foreseeing green Bay to jump off sides,
that it's not the case. The procedure is being called

(42:23):
on Dallas Goddard on the motion and.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
The reason why you can't do that, so it is
to draw them off side. But the hard movement you
can't do it as an offensive player. You can't do
the hard movement in going motion because it's a simulated play,
and so you can't do it.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
And that's why the penalty was called on green Bay.
This actually happened. Did it happen earlier today in the
Broncos game. I thought that it happened with the Bills.
When the Bills were backed up on their one yard line,
they tried to get some breathing room, so the right
tackle as soon as Denver moved. He moved as well
to make it seem like he was drawn off sides.

(43:00):
The refs didn't buy it, repsdan't by this. So now
the Eagles do punt it back to green Bay, but
an opportunity there, I don't think Philadelphia was ever gonna
go for it. Now you point out the situation because
there's twenty two seconds off to if you don't get it,
green Bay still could get in the field goal range
at points at the end of the half. I think
that was solely to draw them off sides, and you

(43:23):
didn't want to kick a fifty six fifty seven yard
field goal in January in Philadelphia, even though Matt Lafleur
is not wearing a winter hat. Still not the greatest
conditions to do so.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
One hundred percent you're correct with that that I think
the crazy thing surrounding this game right now is as
bad as Green Bay is playing, and I don't know,
I don't I don't want to say that they're not
playing well, they're not executing well, which is different.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
They're only down ten nothing.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
So my takeaway right now is Philadelphia squandered some opportunities
here to put this game away early, and also I
mean they're not.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
They're not.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
They're not playing well them. If you really look at
this game, I mean, Jalen Hurts is six to thirteen
for thirty nine yards right now. Sakuon Barkley only has
nine touches. We just saw two teams that handled business
early in the games. One game today, in one game
yesterday with the Ravens and the Bills. They have they
have the two top candidates for MVP. What do they

(44:21):
do in the games they played? They ran the ball.
You have the number one rusher runner in the game
right now, you have a quarterback coming back from concussion protocol.
Give Barkley the Barkley the ball and let's put this
team away. They're playing with the food right now and
they could be in trouble in the second half.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
Yeah, Barkley hasn't played since Week sixteen in the game
against Washington and he was knocked out early missed the
final two regular season games. Jalen Jalen Hurts did, I don't.
I think I may have misspoke, But Jalen Hurts returning
to that point, if you're if you're a Packers fan,
I get while you're furious, you're furious at the officials

(44:59):
from seeing the call early, which I don't want to
say gifted Philadelphia seven points, but at least gifted them
points because they were in field goal range at the
time it was ended up getting. They got the ball
the twenty eight yard line, so automatic field goal range.
The questionable call. I can get the frustrations, and I
know that they're mad with Jordan Love because this is
something that Jordan Love has done. But to your point,

(45:22):
carry is a game where you've now turned the ball
over three times and you're only down ten nothing exactly,
And I don't think it's a situation where Okay, this
is where Philadelphia and now like now you know, starting
to wear down green Bay. That's not the case, is
you're saying. And they're not even running the ball. With
Saquon Barkley only nine carries, green Bay's actually got a

(45:42):
time of possession advantage in the first half. It is
an awful first half for green Bay. Yeah, probably couldn't
have gone any worse except for the fact that Philly
only has ten points. So worst case scenario for green Bay,
you get to stop coming out of halftime. Maybe that's
the only bad, you know, situation is because now Philadelphia

(46:03):
is gonna get the ball. But otherwise, considering all that's
gone wrong, Yeah, he can't be too mad if you're
only down ten nothing.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
No, and you missed the field goal as well, So
I mean, yeah, that's yep, ten three. If you're going
into the half the way they played. I think any
coach would take that with three turnovers, but you're not
gonna win this. You're not gonna win many games being
down three to zero in the turnover battle.

Speaker 6 (46:24):
No.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
Green Bay not doing tons on offense as well, but
again it's the turnovers that have hurt them. And you
mentioned the Brandon McMahons thirty eight yard field goal that
was no good. That should have been points. If you're
an Eagles fan, you're sitting there. There should be three
to three right now. That's the type of game that
we've got after the three blowouts. I don't know how
much it was dying for a three to three ball game.
It's ten to nothing here, but a little bit more

(46:47):
even than the score would indicate. Yes, all right, he
is carry roads. I'm Dan Pirie. It is Fox Sports
Red Zone Radio. The Steelers are out of the playoffs.
In fact, I didn't even put the Steelers in our
helmet set up that you can see on X today.
Steelers are reaby didn't even make the setup today. So
disappointed in the effort of the Pittsburgh Steelers last night.
Just it was a game that Baltimore had from the

(47:11):
opening jump to the end of the game, and I
thought division rival pride. I know things weren't great for
the Pittsburgh Steelers running that losing streak heading into the postseason,
but Kerry I expected something different, and for Kirk kurb
Street on the Amazon broadcast to point out that Pittsburgh
just didn't seem to have any energy or any life

(47:33):
in George Pickens afterwards not expressing great confidence that things
are going to be better offensively for Pittsburgh next season,
I just did. I am scratching my head and wondering
what the Pittsburgh Steelers would do, because this is a
spot this organization, record wise, has been in for a
for a long long time. But there are no signs

(47:53):
pointing upwards right now with Pittsburgh.

Speaker 3 (47:56):
No no, And you know, I think the question that
I always had with that team, and we talked about
it throughout the season, is the quarterback position. I mean,
you go to Russell Wilson and like I said, I mean,
we know what this celing is. We've seen it, and
we know what your ceiling is gonna be with him
as your quarterback. We know that you may make the playoffs,

(48:17):
which they did, but you're not going to be a threat.
Why not give the guy? And if I'm Tomlin right,
if I'm looking to stay there long term, I would
want to know who my quarterback is going to be
long term. If those things are in cohesion, that would
have been the play, right, I'm gonna put justin fields
in there.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
Even if we didn't make the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (48:36):
I know that, Man, I don't have my quarterback out
of any one of these guys. I'm gonna move on.
We can, we can plan that way. But now you
give yourself a little a false sense of hope throughout
the year. You're earlier, you're like the favorite, the winning
division that's at a certain point, and then you come
back to you know, you come you come back to
earth with that team. That team's not a talented they're
not super talented. Have some good players and some great players.

(49:00):
You have Watton, you have Cam Hayward. Yeah, those guys,
but what else, you're kind of barren. So Mike Tomlin,
he's done a great job there. I feel for me
like if I was him, I would move on myself voluntarily.
I would go and step aside. I was step aside,
and obviously that'll be a conversation where to be mutual,

(49:20):
but I would initiate that. I don't think they like consistency.
We know that, and so I don't know if it
would happen a fire, but if I was him, I
would go somewhere else myself.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
Bill Kauer stepped down, Yeah, not immediately after the Super
Bowl season, but coach one more year, led him to
an eight and eight record, and then ended up resigning.
Chuck Nole in his last two years from Pittsburgh went
sixteen and sixteen and ended up ending his tenure there
in nineteen ninety one for Bill Cowhart to then take
over with Kirk Herbstreet making the comments that he did

(49:55):
on a national broadcast that the Steelers team didn't seem ready.
I don't think that if Justin Fields is the quarterback,
anything is different last night, And I don't think you're
saying that either. Your point is is that Pittsburgh is
looking narrowly down this season, how can we maximize the
most out of this season? And you're missing the big picture.

Speaker 3 (50:16):
And that's what and that's and for me, that would signify,
like single in my mind that he may be winding
down with his tenure there as well. Because if it's not,
and you're just trying to, you know, still continue to
go to program, you go with the guy and see
what you have. If you're in a win now situation
with Pittsburgh always is. But as a coach, as somebody

(50:39):
that's been around that, if I know I want to
win now or I'm gonna move on, I'm gonna go
with the guy that gives me the best sounds of
win now.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
The reason why I think it's such a huge indictment
for what Herb Street said, and I think it's a
feeling that a lot of people felt watching the game
last night was when Mike Tomon came in. Mike Toman
came in as a defensive head coach. The greatest Steelers
years were when Dick lebo Is their defensive coordinator, a
great success with Ben Roethlisberger running an offense. Mike Tomlin
isn't the I run the defense guy He isn't the

(51:06):
I run the offense guy. He is the I'm the
head coach, I'm the CEO. I set the tone, and
I set the standard for this organization. And the standard
is the standard. Just what we've heard him say over
and over again. The standard, though unfortunately, is not translated
and trying to meet that standard into emotion. So now
I'm wondering, is everybody just tuning out Mike Tomlin if

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they are coming out without any energy, that's what Mike
Tomlin provides. You're playing your division rival in the playoffs,
in a in a postseason game with your backs against
the wall, and you come out with that sort of performance.
If they came out like Gangbusters and jumped out to
a ten to nothing lead, and then Baltimore's like, okay,

(51:48):
we got to find our footing easier to take than
to put the lackluster sort of game in. So then
it makes me wonder, then what is the usefulness of
Mike Tomlin. And I don't mean to sound so does
respectful to one of the great coaches that we've had
in this era in the NFL, But if you're not
running the defense, and you're not running the offense and

(52:08):
you're not having a say in how those things run,
and your sole thing is to be CEO and set
the tone for this team. If you come out flat
in that game, that tells me more than I need
to know than a nine and eight season or a
ten and seven season over and over again. It's just
to me, it tells me that, all right, the message
is now falling on deaf ears. And that could be true.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
I don't think that would be a situation where Tomlin
would ride with that and let that be okay. So
just from the perspective of my personal relationship with him
and knowing him as as as a coach, his connection
is usually there. And players understand that and they're going
to do what they need to do based off of

(52:51):
not a dictatorship.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
It's I'm gonna give you the proof. I'm gonna show
you what it is and what.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
We need to do to get better, and I'm gonna
lead that way and you're going to follow suit. But
it's not a dictatorship. It's like I'm putting on this
on you as players. And so when I watched them
play yesterday, there was moments where I looked at what
I looked at Cam Heyward. They were both out the
games at certain points. There's no juice outside of those guys.
And even what yesterday, his play was terrible, and I

(53:20):
social media people and people don't talk about that, like
as far as the actual let me do my job
and my responsibility. His responsibility is he is their playmaker.
He's the guy that makes a lot of plays for them.
You can watch him on tape and watch him in
the game yesterday trying to make plays that weren't his.
And so when players are doing that, then you look
at them and say, it's not about the coach. It's

(53:42):
like you're not doing your job and you're not motivating
other people to do their job.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
Because it's a player driven league.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
It doesn't matter about yes, coaches, gms, all these things
they matter, but once you're on the field, you got
to do it. And I don't think they have enough
talent and their leaders aren't that way either.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
I'm on record this show. We sent it out. I
said Mike Tomlin coach of the Year, and I don't
think they won a game since I said that. So
I'm not going to call for his job, But if
there was a bigger indictment on it, I thought it
was yesterday's performance against the Ravens. Here's carry Rhads. I'm
Dan Byer. We're going to take a time out at
the half. Eagles lead the Packers by a score of
ten to nothing. We'll ask our NFL insider Adam Kaplan

(54:21):
if there's any chance that Mike Tomlin is not the
Pittsburgh Steelers head coach coming into the twenty twenty five
season that's next year on Fox Sports Red Zone Radio,
Fox Sports Red Zone Radio. He's the all pro Kerry Rhodes,
I'm Dan Byer. Eagles holding on to that ten nothing
lead on Green Bay, but the Eagles don't do anything
with their opening possession of the second half, so they
punt it to the Packers. Joining us now our NFL

(54:44):
insider Adam Kaplan, who's got a keen eye on this
host of the Inside the Birds podcast, also a writer
for the Pro Football Network, Adam joins us to talk
wild Card weekend and so much more. Welcome in. Let's
get right to it, Adam. The conversation Kerry and I
were having actually was about the other side Pennsylvania, that's
in Pittsburgh with Mike Tomlin. After the Steelers lackluster effort there.

(55:04):
What will it take for Mike Tomlin to not return
as head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Speaker 10 (55:09):
No, that's I think what happens is when I would
expect some sort of changes on the coaching staff.

Speaker 8 (55:16):
If those situations don't improve their betterment in the.

Speaker 10 (55:21):
Playoffs, because they've been so bad they ever won a
playoff game since seventeen. That's when you start saying, Okay,
Mike Tomlin could be out. I don't see it happening.

Speaker 8 (55:30):
I get it.

Speaker 10 (55:32):
Tomlin's slow to make changes. If the Met Cannis situation,
the former offensive coordinator, he really should have been let
go two years ago.

Speaker 8 (55:39):
He didn't.

Speaker 10 (55:40):
He got let go in the middle of the season.
That was not handled very well by coach Tomlin. The defense,
which has carried this football team did not play anywhere
near the level that they expected. The run defense was
horrific and pathetic last night. That was surprising, by the way,
because it was bad last year and they really improved it,
but it regressed.

Speaker 8 (56:00):
But overall, they just don't. They don't. They don't make
it coaching firings. They just don't. This is not the
way they do things.

Speaker 10 (56:05):
So they would have to take something for a prolonged
period of time, and now we have that. But here's
one thing you should you should know from talking from
my talks with people. With the Steelers, they play a
specific way. They want to run the ball. They don't
they want they do not want the quarterback being a
factor anymore. They just don't they want they want the
running backs to be a factor. By the way, they're not.

Speaker 8 (56:26):
This season. The running game has not been there.

Speaker 10 (56:28):
I know the personally, they're very disappointed with it, and
they want to win with defense. Well, if you can't
win with defense, you don't have a run game. You
can't win period.

Speaker 8 (56:34):
That's where they.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
Are, Adam, It's it's a it's a it's a funny
situation when you look at the Steelers, because I don't
I look at them offensively. Yeah, if they want to
run the ball and they want to play it that way,
that's cool. What you just said, they don't have that.
They don't have that expect their running back. What happened
to Nase? What I mean is there is there some
type of disdame with the organization. I could see him

(56:55):
at certain times during the game wanting to stay in
there to get into a rhythm, but they take it
out and sub them out. Is there something going on there?

Speaker 10 (57:03):
Well, Jalen Warren's are third down back and you know
they tried to run the ball early. It didn't work.
They got behind very early and that was it for
this game. I mean, obviously they couldn't run the ball
because they were behind. But you remember they you know
they they don't have the fifth year option. They I
know earlier this season talking to them, it sounds like
they have they had interested in bringing him back. But man,

(57:25):
it's just this offense is it's hard to watch their offense.
I know people want to beat up Russell Wilson for it,
and that's fine, But Arthur Smith, there's a reason why
he's not the Falcons head coach anymore. Unimaginaiveive on offense
in terms of the past concepts, Varry Vanilla. It's just
And the other thing is, here's another this is and
this is on Mike Tomlin because he has he has

(57:46):
jurisdiction on personal decisions in game. So they make this
trade for Mike Williams. Right by the way, Mike Williams
has caught a number of balls downfield and he's been
targeted downfield.

Speaker 8 (57:56):
They just don't throw in the football. For whatever reason.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
He caught.

Speaker 10 (57:58):
He caught the big play for thirty seven yards yesterday.
They just don't get in the football. They took forever
to get George Pickens to the football. And the other
thing about Arthur Smith is your job is to scheme
these guys open. That's called coaching. He's got to do
a better job of it.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
Adam Caplin joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. I
know you don't got a lot of time, so we'll
kind of fast break through some of this coaching wise.
Now that Mike vrabel is in, is Aaron glenon New
Orleans the next one that we expect or that for
surely that happened would happen, or is there another spot?
Is that incorrect? What do we see in the coaching
cycle of who could be up next?

Speaker 8 (58:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (58:32):
So Glenn obviously has a as a relationship with the
Saints because he's worked there before. In fact, he one
of the things that Dan people around the NFL like
about Aaron Glenn. Most people don't know this, but he
actually started his career in personnel and he had a
he's had he's kind of touched everything you coordinator, position coach.
He's worked in personnel. That's that's a tough job. That's

(58:55):
a tough job there because they don't know who the
future quarterback is there. They have a bad cat situation
in the roster is kind of stuck in neutral. So
it's not a desirable job. I have it from the
people I've spoken with. Ranked of the five laft fourth
of all jobs, it's really not a good job.

Speaker 8 (59:12):
And be honest with you, Uh, the Bears one still
is good.

Speaker 10 (59:16):
And then Jacksonville is also right up there because you know,
you always start a quarterback.

Speaker 8 (59:20):
That's why Mike Frable. Other than then, he loved that organization.

Speaker 10 (59:23):
One of that job, he knows at least he's got
a quarterback, where with Tennessee he didn't have that.

Speaker 3 (59:28):
Well, let's let's talk about two teams that we think
have quarterbacks that are playing right now with Jordan Love
and yeah Jalen Hurts defically today. Yeah, they're both struggling
right now. And I mean watching his game, it's you know,
it's ten to nothing, but it could easily be three
to three, you.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
So I'm throwing it out there, what's going on who's
gonna who's gonna win this game?

Speaker 2 (59:47):
Who's gonna Yeah, hurt her, Yeah, Hurts.

Speaker 10 (59:49):
The struggled now their interior of their offensive line is
given a very two bad series where they just gave
up too much pressure.

Speaker 8 (59:55):
Hurts. Hurts.

Speaker 10 (59:56):
Look, he missed two and a half weeks. Uh, his
timing's off little bit, and he's kind of regrets to
what happened to him earlier season where they protect him.
He holds on the ball, looks, looks, looks, and want
to throw the football when it's clear. If you guys
are watching the game as we speak here, yeah, the
last series it was I mean, the targets were wide. Oh,
but he just wouldn't throw the football. And this is
where we're at with Hurts. His best game was his

(01:00:18):
last full game against Pittsburgh. He was phenomenal in that
game where he's decisive, accurate, and made big play after
big play inside the numbers where he normally doesn't throw.

Speaker 8 (01:00:27):
But he's not doing that today. And Love has made
a number.

Speaker 10 (01:00:29):
Of mistakes today and obviously the the fumble on the
open of kickoff, which by the way, could have been
called on the Eagles for helmet to helmet now they
didn't call it, but that set a bad tone.

Speaker 8 (01:00:40):
And well, look, when you lose the turnover battle three
to zero, you're going to be behind. And that's what's
happened here.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
He's Adam Kapl on our Fox Sports Radio NFL in
sider catch him on Exa Kaplin NFL. Adam, we'll talk
to you next week in the divisional playoffs.

Speaker 8 (01:00:53):
Sounds good, guys, Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
He's Carry Rhoades. I'm Dan Byer. We usually keep at
him for a little while longer, but he's he's got
to focus on this Eagles game as well. That is
going on right now. It is an interesting topic with
Jalen Hurts because this is a new offensive coordinator to him,
the third offensive coordinator that he's had in three seasons.

(01:01:15):
And now the Green Bay Packers look like they're just
set up in Philadelphia territory as Dantavian Wicks has caught
a pass from Jordan Love. But on the hurt side
of things, bad performance today or not a great performance today,
holding on to the football, maybe not sure of things.
You're wondering how much is that from not playing in
the last couple of weeks. How much is that for

(01:01:37):
a season where honestly, he's had his targets. Dallas Godder
at times was hurt. Aj Brown at times was hurt,
Devonte Smith at times was hurt. There was a lot
of fluctuation going on in the Philadelphia pass catching realm.
It hasn't been as smooth for a team that we
saw be one of the better teams in the NFL

(01:01:58):
this year and have a double digit wins. But it's
just the point of I'm wondering if it's the coordinator thing,
Carrie that's caught up with with Jalen Hurts, where, yeah,
this season isn't like it was two years ago because
it's a different coordinator and it's not someone who was
in the building like at least Brian Johnson was the
year prior when they ended up making him the offensive coordinator.

(01:02:19):
Last year, You're bringing Kellen Moore completely new and it
just hasn't taken yet. And I think that that's been
a big problem with Jalen Hurts.

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
Yeah, with the coordinators, you have to know that you
have to check the tenor of your players all the time.
But when a guy has been hurt not in the
room all the time, like filling the temperature of what
that player is going to bring next day is a
vital part of what coaching is.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:02:45):
This guy's been out in the concussion protocol for a
couple of weeks now, hasn't played football against the fast
defenses and the looks that he's going to see in
the NFL game for quite some time, and be thrown
into a situation where you're in the wild car of
the playoffs playing against the Green Bay Packer defense that
is pretty good, and you come out and you want

(01:03:06):
him to be able to process and read things right away,
and he's a guy that has problems with that. Anyway,
it's not gonna happen. So what you're doing you can
come into a game like this is you get easy
completions out, make sure he gets confidence, you know, run
the ball, play action where he doesn't have to read
the read the defense because we know what we're gonna get,

(01:03:28):
and you simplify the game for him. You can't throw
him back and think that he's Jalen hurts that he's
been the whole season when he's been out for so long.
So I put more of the blame on the coaching
staff and the coordinators and positions like this, you gotta know,
you got to know the temptature the players.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
But how this is because this is where I'm going
to defend Kellen Moore and I'm going to act. Can't
believe I'm going to defend Nick Sirianni. This is amazing.
Jalen Hurts has not been put in a great spot
with everything that I mentioned with players being out, and
he hasn't been putting a great spot compared to the
success that he had last year in what he had
the year before as well. But when you have a

(01:04:04):
season like Saquon Barkley had and which is different now,
it's a different sort of thing. I think you're basically
asking Jalen Hurts to not do as much and he
can't right now even do that. So to me, that's
a Jalen Hurts problem in terms of what he would
respond to, and not necessarily just the coaching problem and

(01:04:26):
making it work with Jalen Hurts.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
It's also rusty. He hasn't played in a couple of
weeks right and Jalen Hurts says I've never been on
record saying he's a top five, top six seven quarterback
in the league. He got he's getting paid that way,
and he had the one great year super Bowl year,
but the year after that he wasn't great. So last
year he wasn't great. Came back into this year and
he's played good. But Sakuon Barkley is the best player

(01:04:52):
on that team, So like it's not what are we
expecting from him here? Like, if you really want to win,
you're gonna ride Joel Horse, who's been Saqui, I'm Barklay.
You're going to simplify the game for Hurts. He's not
the guy that's going to go out and win you
the championship by himself. The year they went to the
and lost to the Chiefs and he played phenomenal, that

(01:05:13):
was that was an abarration. That's I mean, you know,
I'm an oboration. Sorry, that's that's that's not who he is.
It was a Shane Stike in offense as well. Like
I think of that, and I think that Jalen Hurts
is better than a lot of quarterbacks in the National
Football League. But the skill set, how many dan where

(01:05:34):
would you put him?

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
I would put him in the top top fourteen exactly.
That's that's mediocre. He's better than seventeen others. Eighteen others.
That's where I would That's where I would put him.

Speaker 3 (01:05:49):
And so you're going to win a super Bowl with
that guy doing all this and reading defenses and making
all the plays.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
No what I'm what, I'm what I'm trying to say,
and I'm gonna try to I'm going to try to
look at a quarterback that I feel is maybe maybe
less than what Jalen Hurts is. And honestly, I don't
have a I don't have a top thirty two ranking
that I'm going off Ofkay, But I'm I'm just okay,

(01:06:17):
I'll say this, Yep, Bryce Young. I think we would
say that Jalen Hurts is a better quarterback than Bryce Young. Yeah.
I think if I pulled everybody in here, including Mary
who just came back from London, you would say you
would take Jalen Hurts over Bryce Young right now? Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
But would Bryce Young be a better fit for what
the Eagles are trying to do right now than what
Jalen Hurts.

Speaker 3 (01:06:41):
Has done could be?

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
And that's that's my that's my point of Like, it's
like where like you could even get a quarterback that
you think is lesser, but for what the Eagles need
right now. That lesser quarterback may have what Jalen Hurts
doesn't have right now, Yes, and they may be better
off in that sort of factor. Right. So, and that's
what I'm saying, like we're expecting her to just going

(01:07:03):
I thought that's what I was trying to say.

Speaker 3 (01:07:05):
You did, but okay, but I said, he's what you're saying, right,
Like you're saying you can replace him and put somebody
in there that better fits what they're trying to do.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
Yes, that would be better fitted, yes, for that transition.

Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
And so the quarterback they had in last week.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
Janna McKee or thank you Pickett. Prior to both of them,
how did they play in this in this situation, they said,
I didn't watch a second of that Eagles Giants game,
so I can't even tell you. But Kenny Pickett seemed to, uh,
you know, be fine and yeah when he when he
filled in in that scenario.

Speaker 3 (01:07:39):
Because in that position, and what you're saying, and I
think we're kind of on the same plane, is he's
not the best player in the team.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
And if you're going into a game in the.

Speaker 3 (01:07:49):
Playoffs, you're going to give your best players the most
opportunities to make plays to help your team win. He
doesn't have to go out and throw the ball thirty
times and read defenses and re coverages. He needs to
make the right plays, get the ball out quick and
gives Sakwan Barkley the ball and go win the game.
Like you make things complicated in the league where they
have to do it because of the pay price point,

(01:08:11):
like they want to get their returns.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
Yeah, no, go win the game. That's the part where
I'm having such difficulty, and we'll go to Manci here
in a second, is because I know Jalen hurts, and
especially with Philadelphia. Yeah, it's going to be raked over
the coals for his performance. By the way, there's a
delay in the game because Romeo Dobbs ended up needing
to be helped off, and Dobbs has been dealing with

(01:08:33):
a lot so far this season. That throw a pass
into the end zone, a fell in complete and Dobbs
needed to be attended to and was helped off the
field with a scary situation. But the Packers facing a
second and thirteen from the Eagles thirty three yard line
incomplete to Jaden Reied. So now it's going to be
third and thirteen. The point is is Jalen Hurts isn't
playing well right now and compared to two years ago.
I think there are a lot of reasons why and

(01:08:55):
for what we've seen, whether it be the concussion, whether
it be the injuries that we had throughout the year,
whether it just be his third offensive coordinator in three years.
All of that is I'm trying to defend him in
a way to support Jalen Hurts as a player, but
right now he just may not provide what that needs

(01:09:17):
or what that team needs. Like he may be windshield
wiper cleaner when the car needs oil or vice versa.
He may be the five W thirty and you just
need to get the bugs off your screen. That's what
it could be happening in Philadelphia. I hope you can
follow around along with that analogy. If he can't, there's
nothing I can do with yet. We are live from

(01:09:39):
the diirec dot Com studios. He's carry roads. I'm Dan Byer.
Let's go to the news desk. Packers face the third
and thirteen, and now there's some laundry on the field
that looks like the pack may get a fresh set
of downs. Monci they did.

Speaker 7 (01:09:51):
They just called pass interference against the Eagles on that one.
A scary moment, as you mentioned for Romeo Dobbs, but
the reports online are that he is walking. He went
to the locker room. Jordan Left threw a ball to
him in the end zone double coverage, took a hard hit.
It seemed like they were evaluating his head. But again walking,
went to the locker room. And yes, a fresh set

(01:10:12):
of downs for the Packers, who have yet to score
in this NFC Wildcard playoff against the Eagles with Philadelphia
on top ten zero, but they are inching closer to
did they just file Oh loose ball?

Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
This one was.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
Definitely recovered by Green Bay.

Speaker 8 (01:10:26):
It wasn't definitely recovered by Green Bay, I.

Speaker 7 (01:10:28):
Hope, so let's check that out. Yes, Josh Jacobs down
fumbled definitely, But Packers have the ball. Yes, Packers have
the ball with about seven minutes to go in the
third quarter, and again they're in the red zone, approaching
to score for the first time in this game. The
Denver Broncos scored on their opening drive against the Bills
and then never scored again. Buffalo came out on top

(01:10:50):
thirty one to seven behind Josh Allen, who was twenty
of twenty six for two hundred and seventy two yards
and two touchdowns. The Bills will be hosting the Ravens
in the AFC Divisional Round this coming week either Saturday
or Sunday, but no official day yet still to come.
In the NFC Waldcard Playoffs, though at eight Eastern, will
be the Buccaneers and the Commanders from Tampa. The Patriots
are hiring Mike Rabel to be their next head coach.

(01:11:11):
The Bears are interested in interviewing Notre Dame head coach
Marcus Freeman about their head coaching vacancy. After postponing Saturday's
games in the NBA because of the wildfire's happening in
Los Angeles, Lakers and Clippers are going to resume their
season tomorrow Monday, so the Lakers will be hosting the
Spurs at Crypto dot Com Arena. The Clippers are going
to host the Heat at into It Dome, so they're

(01:11:32):
getting back in action in the NBA right now. The
Pelicans are on top of the Celtics thirty seven to
thirty five, ten minutes to go in the first half,
so early in the second quarter with the Pacers beating
the Cavaliers twenty five to twenty four. Also early in
the second, late in the first, it's a tie game
between the seventy six Ers and the Magic They're tied
at twenty one, and the thunder are beating the Wizards
thirty seven to twenty five. And lastly, here guys something

(01:11:55):
to keep an eye on in the NHL because alex
Ovechkin is now just twenty one goal shy of tying
Wayne Gretzky's all time record of eight hundred and ninety four.
So he scored one last night. He took some time
off because he was hurt, not some time off, he
was hurt. He didn't play. So now he's just twenty
one goal shy of tying the record. He's getting there.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
He's gonna do it. He's gonna do it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:17):
I know he's gonna do it.

Speaker 7 (01:12:18):
So alex of Echkin.

Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
You go.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
Have you ever seen the NHL points leader list?

Speaker 7 (01:12:24):
Yes, it's Wayne Gretzky by like a thousand.

Speaker 6 (01:12:26):
Ye.

Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
No, we're not going to talk about that one.

Speaker 11 (01:12:28):
Yes, yes, because of all the assists he had, But
he's just goals of Echkin could catch and she probably
will as Carrie says, yes, yes, Yeah, back to you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
Packers kicked a field goal twenty eight yards. Brandon McManus good,
So it's a ten to three ball game. I'll have
a little clarity on what I think the playoff schedule is.
Why it hasn't come out, has a lot to do
with the game tomorrow night and how things could play out.
But I think we could really get some clarity after
this contest between the Packers and Eagles. He is Carrie Rhodes.
I'm Dan Byer. We'll talk about more more. Jalen Hurts. Also,

(01:13:01):
I feel like we didn't really come to a conclusion
on that Mike Tomlin conversation. We'll wrap that up. Plus
coming up later on in the program, we're gonna have
our brand new segment, Carry On and Off. Yes, that
will make its twenty twenty five debut, coming up here
on Fox Sports Red Zone Radio. The Eagles have scored.

(01:13:22):
We'll tell you how many he's carry Rhoads. I'm Dan Byer,
Live forthetirerac dot Com Studios. Jalen Hurts a touchdown pass
to Dallas Goddards extra point no good, sixteen to three
Eagles on top of the Packers three twenty left to
go in the third quarter, we are a lot for
the Tirek dot Com studios. The touchdown pass from twenty

(01:13:44):
four yards out. Here's the point that maybe Jalen Hurts
was somehow hearing Kerry and I go back and forth.
It's just from what Jalen Hurts was two years ago.
We think that it's a normal progression for a quarterback
to continue to get better and when you have the

(01:14:05):
amount of change, And I'm not placing blame on I'm
not absolving Jalen Hurts of any blame. It's just when
you have a different offensive coordinator. Shane Steiken leaves Goes,
takes over the Indianapolis Colts, Eagles promote within Brian Johnson
takes over as their offensive coordinator. Last year, there's friction

(01:14:25):
between Hurts and Sirianni. Johnson is ousted after one season.
Then you bring in Callen Moore from the outside coming in,
and Saquon Barkley has an all Pro season. He's probably
gonna be the NFL's Offensive Player of the Year. That
whole deal, it's not about Jalen Hurts, and Jalen Hurts
was hurt at the end of the regular season, didn't

(01:14:47):
have his targets. There were very few games where the
Eagles had everybody available. Devonte Smith was in and out.
AJ Brown was dinged up, Dallas Goddard had a huge
game against the Saints because they didn't have Brown or
Devonte's and then got hurt. The point being, it hasn't
been consistent for Jalen Hurts, and I'm not absolving him
of anything, but there hasn't been a great track for

(01:15:09):
him to get better, and it feels like he's maybe
he's taken step taken a step back, and now it's
a different team. It's not the same team that it
was two years ago, and so maybe there's someone of
the better skill set that would be shooted to run
this Kalimore offense as opposed to the one that we
saw him run with Shane Styke in two years ago.
I think that's the point that both you and I
are trying to make.

Speaker 3 (01:15:29):
Yes, I think there's levels to the NFL where the
margin between great and really good is ginormous, but you
don't understand.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
That, Like you'll just hear great and good.

Speaker 3 (01:15:44):
And you think that's the next level down, Like the
space in between the two is astronomical, and so we're
so quick, as you know, as humans right now to
crown people as arrived and the best thing since slice,
since slice Philly Cheese stage, that's what we do. He's

(01:16:06):
he wasn't there yet. He had he took a team
to the NFL Championship and played outstanding football, and next
thing you know, he's the best. He's I think he
was the best rated player coming back that next year.
Was he number one or whatever? It probably was my home,
but he was two. And now he's like on this
tier that the expectations are super high, But when you

(01:16:28):
get to actually look at him and you study him
and watch his storm mechanics and watch him being able
to read defenses, he was never there yet and it's
still going to be a progression. So I think that's
the place just Pumpy breaks and let the guy be
able to have a chance to continue to grow.

Speaker 2 (01:16:42):
But that's not where we live. In two quick questions,
do you think he'd be a better quarterback now Shane
Steichen was there the whole three years? I think that's
less obvious. Yes. Second question, do you think he's better
next year than he is this year? With a second
year with Kellen Moore, you would hope, so, you would hope.

Speaker 3 (01:16:58):
So Kellen Moore is a little different than saying it's
like and obviously the game, the way they run things
are totally different. Kellen Moore wants to pass the ball
and he does need somebody that would be in that
situation to be able to read defense because he likes
to spread them all around. You can see the first
game of this year how many times the Jalen Hurst
throw the ball.

Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
That's who Kellen Moore is. Now.

Speaker 3 (01:17:19):
They're changing things because of what they have in the
building and sat Quan is their best player on offense.

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
We have to get him the ball and that is
how it is. Yes, that is all. That dynamic is
maybe the biggest of them all, and maybe it's come
at the expense of Jordan Love or excuse me of Jalen.
Jordan Love has the football right now, just throw a
pass to Josh Jacobs to get green Bay a first down.
But now we're seventeen minutes. Seventeen minutes are left in

(01:17:47):
this game. It's a thirteen point game. Talked about the
bad luck that Green Bay had on the fumbled call,
but we also talked about the turnovers. Now Jordan Love
has kind of got to play without a governor. You
kind of got to turn this. You got to get
into a rhythm because you know, Philadelphia with a thirteen
point lead, is going to then start to use sakuon
Barkley and he's now up to w fifteen carries in

(01:18:10):
this game, seventy four yards. So now you can get
a little bit more of the of the where maybe
on a green Bay defense, even though green Bay at
the time of possession advantage in the first half, but
green Bay is going to have to score to try
to continue to make this a competitive ballgame. And now
Jayden Reid is slow to get up after catching a

(01:18:32):
pass in Eagle's territory down to the forty five yard line.
Christian Watson blows out his knee last week. Romeo Dobbs
is in the locker room, and now Jayden Reid is
going to be hurt. It's gonna be a lot of
Bow Melton and Dontavian Wicks if this injury to Jayden
Reid is of any substantial at any point.

Speaker 3 (01:18:51):
Yeah, my phone was us ringing. I thought that was
a GM calling me to come out to.

Speaker 2 (01:18:55):
Carry your roads. Play the fourth quarter. Why would they
call another retired wide receip Why yeah, I mean they
just but they are like, let's just go to the
all pro safety.

Speaker 3 (01:19:03):
I mean, I have a history of catching the ball
at least, I mean, I'm not bad at that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
That's true. Jayden Reid getting up gingerly holding his shoulder,
and they're going to take him. I don't think they're
even blue tentting this. I think that they may be
taking him into the lock. No, they are going to
take him to the blue tent. They are bringing the
blue tent up. But green Bay's got a first and
ten in Philadelphia territory. But down thirteen, missed extra point

(01:19:29):
leaves the the crack open for green Bay to know,
all right, there is still some hope, but you got
to do something here. Only three points in the first
three quarters is definitely not going to cut it. He
is Kerry Rhodes. I'm Dan Byer. It is a Fox
Sports Red Zone Wildcard edition coming up tonight. Buccaneers and
Commanders play like this game was the first game of

(01:19:51):
the season. They played in Week one Packers and Eagles.
So did the Buccaneers and Commanders. They played in Week
one Jayden Daniels making his seat debut. Statline was great,
but it was a game that was dominated by the Buccaneers.
I think it could be different tonight, a different commander's
team that now obviously than what walked into Raymond James
Stadium in Week one. I'm excited about that one. That

(01:20:14):
could be the best game of the week. It might
be thirty to thirty to thirty one in the fourth. Yeah, yeah,
I think it's definitely one to look forward to. He's
carry Roads. I'm Dan Byer. All right, who is the
MVP of the NFL. They may have told us this
week that's next. I'm in Fox.

Speaker 1 (01:20:30):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

Speaker 2 (01:20:33):
We got a ball game in Philadelphia. Josh Jacobs just saying,
all right, none of this junk. We don't have any
healthy wide receivers. I'll just do it myself. Thirty one
yard run down to the one yard line. He then
took the ensuing handoff, got into the end zone, and
Brandon McManus kicked the extra point. It is now sixteen
to ten Philadelphia on top of Green Bay. He is
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is why it was so essential for green Bay to
answer Philadelphia's touchdown, because now green Bay can still give

(01:21:19):
the ball to Josh Jacobs, their best offensive threat, and
now with Jordan Love not having a receiving corps missing, honestly,
is top three targets one before the game. Two have
been lost in this game. You needed green Bay to answer.
They did, and it's a six point game. And even

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that carry now goes back to the Jalen Hurts conversation
that we had put some pressure on the Eagles quarterback
to perform in this six point contest.

Speaker 3 (01:21:49):
One hundred percent. Now you have to steal mix it up.
What Green Bay has to do in this situation right now, though,
is get Jalen Hurts into that known passage that No
One passing situation. If the Eagles can keep it balanced
and keep them off on their toes a little bit
with the play call, and they'll still be fine, but

(01:22:10):
get them into an obvious pass situation and see what
happens and see if you have a chance to make
a play against Hurts.

Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
This is what the Egles need to do. They need
to write, now, take five minutes off the clock and
get points. Yeah, that's if they kick a field goal.
That's fine. If there's ten minutes after the fourth quarter
and you're up nineteen to ten, it puts pressure on
Green Bay. They may not they're not going to abandon
Josh Jacobs, but it's just they may not utilize into

(01:22:38):
the full ability that he would be needed to be used.
So now this is where you rely on your offensive
line again, one of the best in football. Even with
Jason Kelcey retiring, still Philadelphia's front five tops in the
NFL are near the tops. And this is where you
rely on them, and you rely on Saquon Barkley and

(01:23:00):
you start to take off some time and you leave
that Green Bay defense on the field.

Speaker 3 (01:23:04):
And this is why you go out and get a
guy like Saquan or King Henry. In these situations, right,
and you're up by six going into the fourth quarter
in the playoffs, you want to go on a you know,
a prolonged drive, keep their offense, their quarterback on the sideline,
and that's how you win games.

Speaker 2 (01:23:22):
If you're down two scores with ten minutes left. I
don't think that Green Bay is going to abandon Josh Jacobs. No,
but there are going to be passing situations that they need,
and with how depleted that they are, it just puts
green Bay up against the wall. If you don't get
any points on this drive or you punt it right

(01:23:42):
back to green Bay. Now they have an opportunity to
take five minutes off the clock, go down and score
and take the lead. And now if you're Jalen Hurts
and the Eagles, your back's against the wall in that scenario.
So that's that's why this game, this possession here is
dually It's dually important for Philadelphia to get points. One
hundred percent. It's a huge drive. Sakwon Barkley just ran

(01:24:05):
for a first down, so Philadelphia's got it to the
fifty yard line. The MVP will be announced a couple
of days before the Super Bowl at the NFL Honors
that they I'm not a huge NFL Honors fan, but whatever,
it's going to be a part of our life now.
And that's when we find out where the MVP is,
so we have a few more weeks to decide. Something

(01:24:26):
unique happened this week. The All Pro teams are always
announced after the regular season, before the playoffs begin. We
had a question and easy as one, two, three, four,
what teams had the most All pros? The Lions, Eagles,
and Ravens each had six. Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson was
the first Team All Pro. And it's been twenty plus

(01:24:48):
years where someone who's won the MVP hasn't or wasn't
first Team All Pro. By the way, the Eagles just
tried a fake on the brotherly shove, Jalen Hurts missing
a J Brown. Green Bay was not fooled on it,
but it did look like Jalen Hurts may have bobbled
the snap. So now a fourth and one, the Philadelphia

(01:25:09):
Eagles are going for it. But Lamar Jackson was named
the NFL's MVP. Excuse me his name, first team All
Pro quarterback, which in years past signified that he's likely
headed his way to being the MVP. I don't think
that's the case, and I'll tell you why. After this
fourth down play. You just do your brotherly shove and
live with it. Yeah, Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:25:30):
Yeah, they were taking a side that was actually that
that was a brilliant play call, and I was wondering
if they would ever do that good because they can
do it on third down, are they going to do it?

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
They want to get it all fourth down anyway, So
now you've put that on tape for teams to try
to think of, what is there another alternative to this play?
I was gonna say, in what is a must win game,
just run it twice in that scenario, I get, like,
I totally get what you're saying. And yeah, but Green
Bay wasn't fooled. But Philadelphia ends up getting the first

(01:26:00):
on fourth and one at midfield. They won food but
he had a step and he missed that throat.

Speaker 3 (01:26:04):
So I mean if he throws the ball perfectly perfectly,
well there, that's a touchdown.

Speaker 2 (01:26:08):
But I do like the play call.

Speaker 3 (01:26:09):
I mean they they are success rate on I mean,
they run the brotherly shove on third and three, didn't
get it, so they're probably going to get it on one.

Speaker 2 (01:26:19):
So now second and seven and the clock keeps ticking,
this is what Philadelphia needs. You get a first down here.
Now you're taking another minute to two minutes off the
clock and then you're getting in field goal range. That's
exactly what the Eagles needed in this situation. They're going
to face a third and about four, Saquon Barkley takes
one out in the flat. It was in nineteen eighty

(01:26:40):
seven that the NFL's MVP was not named First Team
All Quarterback John Elway and Joe Montana splitting the honors,
But otherwise every time except in two thousand and three
when they were co MVPs. Peyton Manning and Steve McNair
were named co MVPs that year. Manning was the first
team quarterback for the All Pro McNair was second team.

(01:27:03):
So that would have been the only time personal foul
call on Keishawn Nixon of Green Bay is going to
get the Eagles further down the field. Nixon's personal foul
call shoving Saquon Barkley as he was out of bounds,
about five steps out of bounds onto the first onto
the first down chain on the Eagles bench, maybe not

(01:27:24):
the smartest move for Keyshawn Nixon.

Speaker 3 (01:27:26):
No, Dan, I got a question, so that co MVP
year that was you said two thousand and three, Yes,
do you know, like how tight was that race throughout
the year. Do you do you know much about that?
Do you remember it? I?

Speaker 2 (01:27:40):
I do, and I don't. I remember the value of
Steve McNair that year and what he meant to the
Tennessee Titans, but I don't, like, I can't give you
vivid examples of how that year played out.

Speaker 3 (01:27:54):
And I'm saying it only because of the all pro conversation. Right,
the all pro using does signify like if you're the
first team guy at that quarterback position, I mean, you're
probably gonna win the MVP unless there's a record breaking
season from somebody else around around you, right, And all
this talk about like we said, I mean it being

(01:28:16):
over early, We talked about it. We knew that was
nonsense because they got to play out. I don't think
it signifies that Lamar's the MVP right now, not in this.

Speaker 2 (01:28:27):
New age era.

Speaker 3 (01:28:28):
But I think in our back in the day, I
probably would have said, oh, he's going to be the
MVP for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:28:32):
I also think that there is a human element that
has just come into the equation. Sakwon Barkley got a
little breather, Kenneth Gainwell took a second and four Carrey
and now got a first down down down to the
Green Bay fifteen yard line. So this is what I
think has happened is there's emotion in and there's more
emotion now in these sort of decisions than there were previously.

(01:28:55):
And it happens in Major League Baseball. You have different voting.
I think it's generational thing. I think for a while
we just had such old, cranky voters that we're going
to vote, and how they were going to vote was
how they were going to vote. Yeah, but the odds
did not change significantly when Lamar was named First team
All Pro and to me, that was surprising. I think

(01:29:16):
that when you look at the Vegas odds right now,
bet MGM has Josh Allen at minus two point fifty
and Lamar Jackson at plus one eighty five. And I
think what Vegas knows is what I think, and what
the voters probably did was listen, Saquon Barkley had an
amazing season. He'll be the Offensive Player of the Year.

(01:29:37):
That'll be his award that he wins. We've seen that happen. Lamar,
you had a spectacular season. We are splinting hairs on
who is really the best player this year. Lamar you
be first Team Quarterback Most Valuable Player, Josh Allen, that's yours.
So to you saying that it doesn't signify, I agree wholeheartedly.

(01:29:59):
I think that I think that the voters, and especially
with the lines in Las Vegas not moving, I think
that tells us that these voters voted with a conscience
in thinking, all right, because Lamar got thirty first place
votes at quarterback, Josh Allen got eighteen. Yeah, and you
would think that, okay, then he's gonna get thirty votes
as MVP. I don't think that. But I don't think

(01:30:20):
that any of the people who voted with the eighteen
Josh Allen votes will change their votes, So you would
just need seven people. And I think Joe Burrow may
have gotten two other votes for the MVP, but those
then may go to Josh Allen to be the MVP.
I just think that that's how they figured out how
they would split up the awards this year, that normally

(01:30:40):
it's signified that the All Pro Quarterback first Team would
end up being the MVP. I think they're splitting it
this year In Vegas's numbers reflect just as much. So
you think it's all it's the old Participation Trophy. I
think josh Allen should be the MVY. Yeah, you know
I've said that. Yeah, I agree, Yeah, I think that.
But I think that they wanted to honor Lamar Jackson season,

(01:31:04):
and I think they also want to recognize Saquon Barkley season.
And this is a way for everybody to be recognized
and for everybody to be honored in a way where
Lamar's first team All Pro quarterback, Saquon's the Offensive Player
of the Year, and Josh Allen will end up being
the league's MVP.

Speaker 3 (01:31:21):
Man, I'm just you know, it's crazy. I'm so exhausted
about this MVP thing that it's it's like I hear you,
and you're one hundred percent correct. It's just like whoever
you want to give it to give it to and
this move on, like, don't make everybody happy. It's not
about making everybody happy all the time. Just whatever it is,
this is what it is, and you move on, like
you know what I mean, it's so crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:31:42):
Well, like last night, like for example, like Derek Henry
was probably the star for the Baltimore Ravens, but Lamar
makes the play of Justice Hill and you say, that's
why he's the MVP. Sure, Okay, then you watch Josh Allen,
you know, twelve hours later, dance around on a fourth
and one and then throw a bullet to Ty Johnson
in the back of the end. Oh, that's why he's
the envy. We could do this for the next like

(01:32:03):
three weeks and determine who is what in show stats
in whoever you are in favor of, You're going to
find stats that favor your person. I just think that's
how it's going to play out. And actually, I'm cool
with it. I'm fine with it. I think Josh Allen
should win the MVP this year because if Josh Allen
doesn't win it this year, when is he going to
win it? I mean, you know, and we've talked about
the addition of Derrick Henry and what it means for

(01:32:25):
the Ravens. But hey, everybody got fed. Lamar got first
team All Pro. You could put that on his mantle.
Sakuon Barkley, you know, didn't get the rushing record, but
got two thousand yards and guess what, he's going to
be Offensive Player of the Year. All of that works out.
Everybody's happy. I'm completely fine with it, but I don't
think that the history that we have seen with this award,
which normally it would like when Matt Ryan was named

(01:32:46):
First Team All Pro Quarterback, You're like, all right, Matt
Ryan's going to be the MVP. That's probably what it's
going to be. I just don't think that's the case
this year. All right. So the five minutes that I
thought Philadelphia was going to take off the clock carry
Roads has now gone to six minutes. I know, five
left in the fourth quarter. Philadelphia a second down in
twenty two, and this is what I mean by it,
So they've taken up all this clock. Green Bay does

(01:33:09):
have all three of their timeouts. Philadelphia has gotten into
the red zone, but then a holding penalty on Devonte
Smith pushed them back, and then a holding penalty now
by Lane Johnson has them at second and twenty two
at the twenty seven yard line. You just have to
kick a feld. You just have to get three points
out of this scenario. You don't need six, you don't
need seven. You just need to get something out of it.

(01:33:30):
And you've already what you've already accomplished is taking up
this chunk of time on the clock. Eight p. Fifty
three and counting on a dump off pass to Dallas Goddard.
So now it's going to be third down and twelve.
I am super conservative here. I try to make this
as much of a chip shot as I can. I
would even run a draw player, some sort of keeper
with Jalen Hurts and let that clock run some more.

(01:33:53):
You could have this thing as ticking down right now
is eight thirty five in counting. You could have this
down to seven point thirty and be a two score game,
which then takes the Josh Jacobs aspect out of this
and really almost makes Green Bay in a way one dimensional.
One hundred percent. Yes, And this is what Philly does.

Speaker 3 (01:34:10):
I mean when they win, it's it's it's agony, Yeah,
you know what I mean. Like they're gonna get to
this possession right and if they get they get the
three here to go up two possessions. If they get
a stop again and you try to get the ball back,
you won't get it back because they go foard and
fourth down. They're aggressive, and I mean, this is this

(01:34:30):
is why they win right here.

Speaker 2 (01:34:32):
And they just ran a bit of an option play
where Jalen Hurts faked the pitch and kept it, which
I thought he wouldn't, he would not let go of
the football. Ended up getting some space, but got down
inside the twenty yard line, so it's going to be yeah.
I actually inside the fifteen, got down to the thirteen,
so it's a thirty yard field goal attempt for Jake Elliott. Well,

(01:34:52):
the clock continues to tick. W'ere at seven thirty five
and counting, and Elliott's field goal is good. That is
the best case scenario. You heard us fifteen minutes ago.
That's what we told you that the Philadelphia Eagles should do,
and they did it even better. They took seven, They
took half the quarter off the clock in scored point.
Don't be modest, Dan, that was all you. I appreciate that.
Thank you very much. You can send your congratulations Dan

(01:35:14):
Byer on Fox or you can send them to Carry
as well at Carrie twenty five Roads. You can also
reach Carry after his new segment debuts. That's coming up
next right here on Fox Sports Red Zone Radio, Fox
Sports Red Zone Radio, and the Philadelphia Eagles getting closer
to advancing in the NFL playoffs. He is Carrie Rhoades,

(01:35:35):
the All Pro and starter since day one. I'm Dan byer.
Glad to have you with us here on this wild
card weekend. Eagles have forced the Packers to turn it
over on downs. So now with five minutes left, green
Bay leads Philadelphia by I score of nineteen to ten.
And this just backs up the point that it made
at the start of the quarter, at the top of
the hour, and why that drive was so important for

(01:35:57):
Philadelphia because it made green Bay one dimensional. And the
reason that Green Bay got into the game was because
of the way that Josh Jacobs was running the football,
and by Philadelphia making it a two score game. Carry
and they I said take off five minutes. It took
seven and a half minutes off the clock. It made
Green Bay one dimensional. They got a first down on

(01:36:18):
a pass to Jacobs on the ensuing drive down nine.
The next play, running some no huddle, they ran for
four yards past the Tucker Craft went for three. Then
they didn't get anything on a third and three run,
and on fourth and three an incomplete pass and drive
is over. But everything was rushed because it's no huddle.
It shot gun. You're not wearing them down. You're putting

(01:36:40):
Jordan Love in in a tough spot, in almost a
one dimensional spot, and now the game is pretty much over.

Speaker 3 (01:36:47):
Yeah, no, this is this is prime, prime Philly territory.
Here you get a long drive to start the fourth
which you stated, get a stop quickly defensively, and you
get the ball back now with the chans to grind
out the game and play the type of football that
Philly wants to play. So yeah, this is it's it's
pretty much over now.

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(01:37:29):
Bay forty one yard line with four fifty eight to
go up nine. It allows us to debut a brand
news segment here on Fox Sports Radio New and twenty
twenty five. Ladies and Gentlemen. Here it is carry on
and off, Carry on, Stay calm and carry on. Carry

(01:37:57):
Rhoads gets five topics. He tells me if he's on
it or he's off it. Stop feeling it. You ready
for this? Carry roads? I think so? Topic number one,
are you on board with NFL playoff games on streaming services?
I'm off it. I'm off it, old guy. Carry right.

Speaker 3 (01:38:20):
I am the Yeah, I'm taking my ball in. I'm
not letting you play with it. I leave that to
leave that to the regular TV. Leave that to leave
that to cable TV. Network TV streaming sucks. They never
get the audio right. It doesn't sound like they're really playing.

Speaker 8 (01:38:37):
It.

Speaker 3 (01:38:37):
Sounds like somebody has a VCR recording it from their backyard.
It does not seem good at all. I mean, obviously
the pageantry around it, but leave it alone. Man, it's
it's delayed.

Speaker 2 (01:38:50):
I'm there with you because I'm also the guy that
hates when the Final Four and National Championship like Big
Bowl games aren't on network TV. I think it's just
on ESPN, it's on TBS. I'm like, come on, I
want one of the big four networks to have it.
So if I get annoyed from that, you know, I'm
definitely annoyed with streaming.

Speaker 3 (01:39:09):
If I'm gonna watch CBS, I'll just watch Christmas Story.

Speaker 2 (01:39:12):
All right? Yes, carry on or off? I can't This
is the first episode of this, so I don't know
if it's carry on and off or carry on or off,
but we'll figure that out throughout the show. CJ. Stroud's future.
A lot of people down on CJ. Stroud, but yesterday
stepped up big time. His head coach even called him

(01:39:32):
out in recognition of the game. Are you on board
with this version of c J Stroud in these playoffs?

Speaker 3 (01:39:38):
Oh? Carry on?

Speaker 2 (01:39:39):
Carry on.

Speaker 3 (01:39:42):
CJ Stroud had a brilliant rookie season. A lot of
people jumped on board and you know, put him, you know,
in that upper echelon of quarterback coming back this year.
He has some sophomore struggles and that's part of you know,
the pro life. You're not gonna always have the excellent,
excellent seasons, but it's what you do with those opportunities.
And he got an opportunity in the playoffs to come
back and and kind of rewrite this story, this narrative

(01:40:06):
right now, Game one, he rewrote it. He's back on track.

Speaker 2 (01:40:10):
Baby. I want to see c J. Stroud keep playing.
It was actually really good to see c J. Stroud
do what he did. I'll say that much, all right.
Topic number three, carry on or off Dion Sanders with
the Las Vegas Raiders. I'm off it.

Speaker 3 (01:40:28):
I'm off it.

Speaker 2 (01:40:30):
I'm off it.

Speaker 1 (01:40:33):
The double Bull.

Speaker 2 (01:40:33):
There was a report Vinnie boun signor Las Vegas Review
Journal reporting that Dion Sanders is very interested in the Raiders'
head coaching job.

Speaker 3 (01:40:43):
He would be interested in it, but there it comes
with two demands, his two offspring being there, and so
if you want to take make that happen, and take
shador and and bring in what's what's silo bringing Silo
as well, I'm sure he would be interested. But I
mean for Dion, he's in a place in Boulder right

(01:41:03):
now in Colorado doing a real job of bringing young
men to a point of being men in this world
and knowing how to take on life as an adult.
I like that role for him. I see him being
a guy that can really lead men, young men to
be men. So stand Boulder carries off that.

Speaker 2 (01:41:23):
Are you on or off a potential fourteen team playoff
in college football right now at twelve? But obviously there's
been talking the future of expanding the fourteen. I'm off
that for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:41:34):
I'm off that. I'm off that the product that we
just saw and leading up to the I think to
the national championship game. Obviously, I think we do have
a brilliant National Championship game, but those early games were
they weren't it for me, and so I will leave
that alone. I probably keep it around ten if I could.

Speaker 2 (01:41:55):
I actually agree with you doing that final one three offs,
one on. We'll see if it's even or if it's
just an off Sunday, the Dallas Mavericks in January, no Kyrie,
no Luca. All right, on board with your Mavericks. I
know you'll always be on board with the already there's

(01:42:16):
no but today against the Nuggets, I didn't even have
to say it.

Speaker 3 (01:42:20):
It's a carry on, Dan, you carry on. I mean
I was really excited for this question before Denver came
back in the fourth quarter in one, because I was
going to be like, you see, you see they can
win without Luca and Kyrie against good teams. Then they
you know obviously didn't do that, but definitely carry on.
This team is good, deep, talented enough.

Speaker 2 (01:42:40):
To get it done. I'm not jumping off that bend
wagon ever. So Klay Thompson twenty five points in the
losing effort, But as you pointed out, to me off
the air the fourth quarter of the Nuggets outscored the
Mavericks thirty three to twelve. That's right, that's a tough one.
It's a good thing the NFL playoff action is going on,
because then not as many people would be talking about
that with Jason kids and I forgot about it until

(01:43:01):
we just brought it up again. So well, there it
is carry on.

Speaker 8 (01:43:06):
Or off?

Speaker 2 (01:43:11):
All right? Should it be carry on or off? Or
carry on and off? Let's ask Monty Bolanos, who will
also give us an update of what the Eagles and
Packers are doing. You got to vote on this.

Speaker 7 (01:43:20):
One, to carry on or off? Isn't that?

Speaker 3 (01:43:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:43:25):
Carry on or off? I think I think that's the
one that sounds best. But I mean bleeding cares here,
I kind of.

Speaker 4 (01:43:34):
Like just carry on. I'll just carry on options.

Speaker 2 (01:43:38):
Let's ask Fresh Off of her trip to London in
love Marry Matt here, it's hello.

Speaker 3 (01:43:44):
I think it should be carry on or off. I
think it kind of makes more sense because then it's
like kind of like asking carry on off?

Speaker 2 (01:43:52):
So carry on?

Speaker 3 (01:43:54):
Oh man? Her British accent going.

Speaker 7 (01:43:57):
Actually she's minding the gap, Mind the gap, Mary Mack
fresh off of her trip to London, is wearing her
London sweatshirt.

Speaker 2 (01:44:07):
I am I mean, is it hers?

Speaker 10 (01:44:08):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:44:09):
I'm'm sorry sorry, let's let's let's get the off air
on conversations. You know, I don't think you have that
was carry carry off? Carry off, carry carry off? Let's that.

Speaker 6 (01:44:22):
So?

Speaker 2 (01:44:23):
Yes, Ni s Walker, you must also do it in
a British accent.

Speaker 7 (01:44:26):
I'm good, okay, I am worse than Russell Crowe and
lame Misarov. So the Eagles are up on the Packers
nineteen ten. They're just trying to drain the clock. They're
about to hit a field goal. Three thirty. Time is
literally going as Jake Elliott attempts a thirty two yard
field goal. But on this drive the Packers were called
for unnecessary roughness.

Speaker 2 (01:44:48):
TJ. Slayton.

Speaker 7 (01:44:49):
Saquon Barkley just went up the middle for a yard
and the play was over, but he shoved him and
they obviously get a couple of yards from it. So
they got a fresh set of downs and Slayton went
off to the side and definitely a mouthful mouthful from
Matt Lafleur because he was not happy about that him
not being able to hold his emotions in a game
where it's you got to hold it together. You're still

(01:45:09):
in it, not completely out of it. Uh So again
they are up. There's a picture circulating, and I was
just trying to see on my screen if I could
read the name of the book, a picture of AJ Brown.
He sits down and just grabs a book and starts
reading it on the sideline.

Speaker 1 (01:45:22):
Of this game.

Speaker 2 (01:45:23):
This guy I am. I am telling you this guy,
I am. I am. I've been so done. I've been
so off of AJ Brown for so long. He is is,
he is, he is just he's I don't want to
use I don't want to say a term that is
just not fair. Oh what's the term?

Speaker 7 (01:45:45):
Well, I have a red nose?

Speaker 2 (01:45:47):
What's that?

Speaker 7 (01:45:47):
He translates clown?

Speaker 2 (01:45:50):
He has clownish behavior. I'll tell you that much. I'll
say there's a different word that started with a C.
But but not that word, a different one. So that's yeah,
that's all I'm a Paul.

Speaker 7 (01:45:59):
Yeah, a bunch of sea words here is I.

Speaker 2 (01:46:02):
Think his attitude is cancerous to the Philadelphia Eagles. Yeah,
I may, That's what I was gonna say, because again,
it's he is never happy. He always wants the football.
They're about to win a playoff game by nine in advance,
and let's just pretend to read a book.

Speaker 7 (01:46:19):
Yeah, it's exactly what it was. The Eagles did hit
that field goal, so they're up twenty two to ten,
three minutes and twelve seconds to go. Still to come.
In the NFC Wild Card Playoffs, it's gonna be the
Buccaneers hosting. The Commander's kickoff is at eight Eastern Bucks.
Star safety Antwine Winfield Junior, who hasn't played since early
December because of a knee injury, is active for tonight's game.

(01:46:40):
Earlier today, the Bills crushed the Broncos thirty one to seven.
They will be hosting the Ravens in the AFC Division
Round next weekend. Not sure if it's Saturday or Sunday,
but I'm sure we will know soon. The Patriots are
hired Mike Rabel to be their next head coach. NFL
Network reports that the Bears are interested in interviewing Notre
Dame head coach Marcus Freeman about their head coaching Vacant
sees it make and see in the NBA, it's a

(01:47:03):
close one between the Pelicans and the Celtics. Boston is
on top eighty two to eighty one, but the Pelicans
are giving them a run for their money. Three minutes
to go in the third quarter, Cavaliers on top of
the Pacers sixty five to sixty Also late in the third.
Early in the third, the Magic are beating the seventy
six ers fifty three to forty eight, and halfway through
the third the Thunder are just running away with it

(01:47:24):
against the Wizards. Seventy eight to forty nine is the score.
Shay Gildesse Alexander twenty two points so far in the game,
and yes, earlier today, Jalen Brunson dropped forty four points
as the Knicks crushed the Bucks one forty to one
oh six, while the Nuggets defeated the Maps one twelve
to one oh one, and the Kings had a one
twenty four to one nineteen win over the Bulls.

Speaker 2 (01:47:43):
Back to you, guys, I don't know what book AJ
Brown is reading.

Speaker 3 (01:47:48):
I am kinos, I am.

Speaker 2 (01:47:49):
I'm going to give you a couple of books that
AJ Brown should check out Green Eggs. Aham no, no, uh,
How to be a leader, Learn how to be a leader,
How to not be a whiny wide receiver because you
only have one catch for I don't want to say
for dummies, because I'm not trying to insult his intelligence.
I'm insulting his leadership in all of this. This is

(01:48:11):
again he sulked after they beat the Giants two years
ago in the divisional playoff. He's been nothing but a
problem when he hasn't gotten the football when this team
is won, he complained this year during their ten game
win streak. This is just I am so done with
AJ Brown. I can't believe Philadelphia is with him on
this to you know that he knows he's on camera, Kerry, Yeah,

(01:48:33):
you know that he knows. And you know what, if
he actually was reading the book, he probably should have
gone to the spot of his bookmarked instead of just
opening it up and pretending to read just to prove
his point, then there actually would have been some legitimacy
that you're actually reading the book. But it's the fact
of AJ Brown in a win where they just took

(01:48:53):
up half the fourth quarter with a drive to go
ahead and are now trying to we're trying to milk
the claw and he sitting there on the sidelines shulking
because he has one catch in a playoff game that
they won. Yeah, I'm so. I've always been done with
AJ Brown. I can't. I didn't think I could be
more done until today. Is this is ridiculous.

Speaker 7 (01:49:15):
If you want to know, the book, according to the
Inner Excellence, train your mind for extraordinary performance and the
best possible life.

Speaker 2 (01:49:24):
And I had one. I was going to give him one.
And it's okay, at least it's a self help book.

Speaker 3 (01:49:28):
At least all right, Dan has been off of AJ
for a long time and we've had this conversation before,
but I want to offer him another book to read.

Speaker 2 (01:49:36):
Okay, Yeah, just you know, for.

Speaker 3 (01:49:38):
Him, I think in his in his life and where
he is is as a human, super successful, ego driven,
and I think a lot of people are ego driven.
I'll throw out this book for him called The Four Agreements.
Have you heard that book, Dan? No, The Four Agreements? Right,
it's a toll tech. It's this is a legit book.
I was just making up. This is legit. This is
a legit book. It's called The Four Agreements. It's the

(01:49:59):
Great bo by the way, and so like you he
for him, just like to retrain his brain and you know,
actually has some physical activity going on there to actually
work on it, Like just wake up and read that book.
You wake up. So the four agreements, I'm gonna say,
I'm exactly how it goes. It'll be like being peckable
with your word if he's a leader, like understand what

(01:50:22):
that word means and understand that and like actually do
some research on what leadership looks like being peckable with
your word. All right, don't take anything personally. That's number two.
Your team is up, you're about to win a playoff game.
Go celebrate with your team and be involved with them.
That's number two, all right. Number three, don't make assumptions.

(01:50:46):
He comes to the game, he's supposed to get the
ball every time. It doesn't happen that way all the time.
Be fully present in the moment with you, your teammates,
your coach. Make sure it's not always about you. So
that would be number three. Don't have any assumptions. And
the last one, just do your best every day. If
you do your best every day in a game right now,

(01:51:08):
he's not catching the ball, go block be somebody that's
there for your team. And that's what I would say
to a J.

Speaker 2 (01:51:13):
Brown. Just read the four agreements, just for a start,
they should suspend him. I would, I would, I would,
just is this is this is enough, this is this
is stupid, this is silly, this is this is ridiculous.
This is and it's time and time and time again
that there's something going on with AJ Brown, and I

(01:51:35):
just I can't believe that this is the second time
now in a playoff game where where he's done this.
I've seen him smile and laugh with other players after
a loss when he's had a good game or he
had eight catches and one hundred yards sure, and then
I see him shulking when he's had one catch today

(01:51:57):
or three catches in a playoff victory. That's the type
of player that you want around. That's absurd.

Speaker 3 (01:52:05):
I just.

Speaker 2 (01:52:07):
I I hate it. I don't know Aj Brown. It's
it's nothing personal, but everything that I've seen has been
that he is he is not a good teammate, and
it's all about AJ Brown. And I think that there
was even this thought because Tennessee didn't want to pay him,
there was a different narrative and that he wanted to
go to Philadelphia, and he goes to Philadelphia and ends
up winning and they pay him. They've paid him a

(01:52:28):
couple of times, by the way, and nothing is changed
with him. It's just it's it's not disappointing because I
didn't expect anything to change, but for this to just
continue to happen, I just don't know. If you're the
Philadelphia how do you get a book on the sidelines?
How does that happen? You tell the trainer? Do you
bring it out yourself when you run in. I mean,

(01:52:50):
they didn't respect Green Bay. They thought they were going
to blow him out. So here's the other here's and
I know we have to take a time out. Here's
the other thing. You mean to tell me that aj
Brown is reading books and maybe not like on a
digital reader like I would I would think, I don't know, Mary,
seemed like you're well read, you knew the book that
carry was talking about, you know, to physically, like if

(01:53:11):
he had a tablet, his point isn't across, Like if
he truly wanted to read a book, yeah, yeah, yeah
for sure. And if he had a tablet, you would
think like, oh, he's on the Microsoft tablet. He's not
reading the book, but having the book physically shows that
he's ticked off. Do you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:53:25):
But wait, but do you think he actually came into
this game with the book ready to be read if
he didn't catch the ball.

Speaker 2 (01:53:32):
The game, Yes, you do. I would not put it
past him. If he was on a tablet, you'd think
he'd be look at him, Look at him. He's reading defense.
You only had one catch and AJ Brown is reading defenses. No,
that's not important to him. What's important is that you
know that he's mad. So then the next playoff game
that the Eagles have the first play from scrimmage, they
have to call a pass to AJ Brown. That's exactly

(01:53:54):
what it is. That's exactly what it is. That's crazy. No,
and that's who he's been. You're not wrong? Am I wrong?
That it would make sense to if you're reading a book,
you're probably reading it on a.

Speaker 3 (01:54:06):
Tablet of some sort if you didn't want nobody to
know it, yes, or an audio book.

Speaker 2 (01:54:10):
Yeah. But the only way you get your point across
is if you have a physical book with you. That's
what annoys me. He's carry roads. I'm dan Byer. The
Eagles just should suspend AJ Brown, all right? Get him
up at Cary twenty five roads. You can find me
at Dan Byer on Fox. Green Bay's got the football,
but they've got a third and nineteen and actually they

(01:54:32):
just picked up the first down two minutes to go,
two fifteen to go. Green Bay has one time out
but down twelve, but Philadelphia two minutes away from advancing.
He's carry roads. I'm Dan Byer. Some wild card highlights
plus maybe even a look at college football. That's next
year on Fox Sports Radio. Oh Man, something crazy just
went on in Philadelphia. The Eagles just beat the Packers

(01:54:55):
twenty two to ten and Saquon Barkley taking a carry
with about a minute to go, He's carry roads. I'm
Dan Byer. It's Fox Sports Radio. I forgot that part
a lot Forthtirech dot Com Studios. Saquon Barkley bushed through
the line on a carry and had nothing between him
and the end zone and Philadelphia. And what did he do, Carrie.
He took a he slid to run out the clock

(01:55:17):
at the forty one yard line. So just a modest
game to get the first down. But it was twenty
two to ten. Saquon Barkley could have well, he got
over one hundred yards, yea one hundred and nineteen yards
on the grounds that I didn't get into the end
zone but had fifty nine more yards to go. He
would have scored, would have added to it, and Philadelphia
would have won. But he slid to allow the time

(01:55:40):
to run out. And then Philadelphia took a knee and
got a twenty two to ten win over Green Bay,
And so now the Eagles have advanced to the NFC
Divisional playoff.

Speaker 4 (01:55:49):
Dan would AJ Brown have scored there?

Speaker 12 (01:55:52):
That's exactly what Carrie Roads just said. A producer and
carry Roads are on the same page. AJ brownould have said,
I'm gonna score, and let's go for two and I
will I will be the one to catch all of that.

Speaker 2 (01:56:07):
Yes, that's exactly what happened. In fact, Saquon was so
excited on the sidelines that he was doing the keep
the clock going signal on the sidelines. He's going nuts,
He's winding the clock, keep that baby going. Good have
had a seventy yard touchdown run instead settles for about
an eleven yard game.

Speaker 3 (01:56:28):
Wow, good job man, way to be on top of it.

Speaker 2 (01:56:31):
I said the same thing. It was so funny. AJ
Brown absolutely would have scored. He absolutely would have scored.
What we love to do during the NFL season is
we love to highlight the great plays that we've had,
and for eighteen weeks, our imaging department puts together a
highlight package that is unrivaled. Ricky Herrera has done a

(01:56:52):
great job of it. And just because the regular season
is over doesn't mean that our highlight package won't continue.
Because right now we have a look at our wild
Card round MVPs.

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Speaker 13 (01:58:26):
Brutts clanged it off the right, up right, and that
is how the half will end. Alan back to pass,
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the thirty three, cuts it back inside of the twenty,
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Speaker 2 (01:59:23):
Sunday, Jimmanders and Buccaneers tonight, and then Vikings and Rams tomorrow.
I think we'll have a better idea after Tonight's game.
We should find out and how the divisional playoffs schedule
will will take place. I think Texans and Chiefs is
going to be a game on Saturday. I know he
tried to predict they got half of this week You're
good games correctly. I thought Green Bay and Philadelphia would

(01:59:44):
have been at night, but instead Fox wanted it, point being,
it just makes sense to have Houston and Kansas City.
Whoever wins the Rams Vikings game is going to automatically
play on Sunday. There's no way that the NFL is
going to make them play on a Saturday. Yes, but
we'll find out on where the winner of that game
will go by tonight's outcome. So we'll have a better
idea of the playoff picture after tonight's game and who

(02:00:06):
goes where? All right? Kerry Buccaneers commanders tonight from Tampa
three to six matchup? Who ends up getting the best
of who.

Speaker 3 (02:00:13):
I got Bucks tonight and I got rams tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (02:00:17):
I am the opposite of both, like the commanders tonight
to get revenge from week one, and I think Minnesota
really benefits from that location change. We will see. He'll
text me if I'm wrong. He always does. He's carrying out,
so I'm Dan Buyer. Talk to you next week.

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