Fox Football Sunday: Mike Harmon, Bucky Brooks, & Andy Furman talk NFL Conference Championships, Cowboys Coaching Carousel and So Much More!

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Mike Harmon, Bucky Brooks, and Andy Furman bring you in-depth analysis of NFL Conference Championship Sunday! The trio breaks down the NFL coaching carousel and examines the Cowboys' decision to move forward with Brian Schottenheimer after parting ways with Mike McCarthy.

Next, they dive into the NFL Conference Championship matchups, featuring the Bills vs. the Chiefs and the Eagles vs. the Commanders.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio RADO.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Oh it is a championship Sunday beyond jacked up. Yes,
it's way early on the West Coast. My throat feels
like someone is running me through gravel right now. But
you know what they tell me. That's sexy. They tell
me that's the way you want to wake up on
a Sunday morning. So for two hours, just sit back
and luxuriate in the way that I speak and articulate.

(00:25):
We've got a special guest star that's gonna join us
on the show momentarily. But I can't do it alone.
I'm Mike Carmen alongside me, a legend in broadcasting, a
man who's cv runs a long way, a man with opinions,
a man who's run many a promotion. You want him
on your side, it's Andy Furman.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Well, thank you, thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Over there, we got Bucky Brooks. He wins bottom barrel
betting with some regularity. I mean, I gotta say what
I hear. He writes for Fox Sports dot Com NFL
dot Com. You see his face. He's a coach, a mentor, prognosticator,
does a podcast. His partner just released a mock draft.
So I was like a little kid and I got

(01:07):
that squeal going. But we've got to start with a
special guests because you know, as I'm flying up the
four h five freeway, I heard you guys. You know
it's football and you're fired up trying to find the
diamond in the rough, which we'll do again here a
little bit new audience, new participant in me for these
championship games. But I heard a little bit of Baseball

(01:28):
Hall of Fame chatter and standing for one Carlos Beltran. Yeah,
so America, welcome our special guest star. That people is
a trash can. It kept him from getting a job
with the Mets. He was the only guy named and

(01:49):
called out for the cheating scandal that played baseball. Oh wait,
it didn't because Rob Manford said, there's a giant rug
over there, sweep it under there. Nobody goes in that
quarter of the office. So to be consistent, Carlos Beltran
should be buying a ticket with the rest of the
guys labeled as cheater, as there's far more evidence, hard

(02:10):
evidence that he cheated the game of baseball than a
lot of guys that had been left out.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Well that's the reason why he's not in the Hall
of Fame.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Well, but he's got seventy percent of the vote. He
shouldn't be anywhere near that.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
Because the Johnny cum lately voters don't remember that that
was twenty seventeen to twenty ninety. Well, the old guys
are gone, the new guys are coming in now.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Rob Parker's still putting in his vote. I told him,
let next year. He's screwed because he only voted for
CC in ECHI row next year. There's not a single
guy that should be a first time time Hall of Famer.
So if suddenly he votes Beltran and he gets over,
I will never let him hear the end of it.
In these hallways, I'll be wearing a Beltron mask every day, jeez,
as well as I'll be sending Beltron masks to all

(02:54):
the other voters.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
The gas mask.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
That's it. Got to give him the gas face. Go
back to third base back in the day. You like that.
There's a random reference from rap Royalty back in the day.
But fellas, it's so good to be with you here.
We've already got some Women's English Premier League up on
the TV. We've got all sorts of highlights and breakdowns
of Bills and Chiefs, and we're so lucky to get

(03:21):
another one of these. And it started well, and I
don't know how many people watched, right, ratings are down
and miserable. I split screen it with Saturday Night's main event,
because well, I'm a wrestling nerd. But we got the
twenty fifth regular season game between Lebron and Steph Curry yesterday,
and we're getting towards the end of him right right now,
Lebron after yesterday's win, ten point win, he's up thirteen

(03:42):
to twelve. How about that? Are we seeing him in
the finals again?

Speaker 5 (03:45):
No?

Speaker 2 (03:45):
I mean Steph Curry with four and a half minutes
left in the first half, actually missed a free throw. Guys,
that's one of those. I'll remember where I was. I
was sitting on my couch having a beautiful cup of
coffee and eating some salted caramel pudding from the PhD
weight loss thing I'm working with, and it was glorious
and my kid looked at me like I was nuts,
because then Steph Curry went oh for eight in the

(04:07):
second half as they lose by ten. But we don't
get many of these anymore so as much as there's
a lot of hate watching that may go on today.
You know, we got bad Blood, which was a great
song from Taylor Swift that had an all star cast
including Bill's quarterback Josh Allen's fiance Hailey Steinfeld. Oh yeah,
we're getting it on later on today. See, I got backstories.

(04:31):
I wove it, I wove rich tapestry this morning on one, I.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Got a backstory for you, all right? Can I go back?

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Because I'm not a tremendous fan of Carlos Beltrent, but
I think if you guys got the numbers, I think
you should be in there for those aren't familiar with that.
Only five players in history of four hundred home runs
of three hundred steals.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Hey, hey, hey, I did not take.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Oh okay, However, here's the addendum to this story.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
Gaylord Perry threw spitballs after the pitch was outlud. Why
do Ford scuff baseballs with his wedding ring to gain
advantage of the batters?

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Haink Greenberg, my guy.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
Haink Greenberg even admitted by participating in a sophisticated sign
stealing operation that helped the Tigers win the pennant back
in nineteen forty.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
Take them all out. Andy, I'm just saying, ay more
more sophisticated, and we take it maybe more seriously, and
we go back to the origins right where you had
a dozen people not vote for Babe Ruth because they
hated him. The guys that didn't like Ty Cobb didn't
vote for him. We know about Jackie and Hank Aaron
and all of those things.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
I mean, but it doesn't bode well for Pete rose Was.
I think Pete should get into the Hall of Fame.
But if Belcha's not getting in because did a garbage
can deal, Pete will naviget it.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Now sign the piece of paper that, unfortunately is wasn't
able to be rescinded before Paul Giamatti's dad passed away.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
But let me leave you with this. You know, we
talked about baseball.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
We just brought it up because I thought it was
buried with beneath the football news that was.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Really we did probably two hours on it that day.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
Well, Well, I thought I told this that the buck.
I said, I think Major League Baseball should announce the
new inductees of the Hall of Fame at this ceremony
in July because to have the announcement come out in
the middle of January. Doing NFL playoffs is ridiculous. You
always gonna get pushed back.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Oh, but you're trying to find something on the calendar, right,
You're trying to pop your head up, and unfortunately every
year you're not going to have a bunch of stars.
The euro thing got a lot of run because you
had the you know, the witch hent to find out
who that one guy was, right, and everybody that wanted
to fight exactly everybody that wanted to fight about Billy Wagner, Right,
is he shoulding to get in? Should he not? Right?

(06:43):
He gets in on the tenth tenth ballot? And you know,
that's a whole other kettle of fish for another time.
We'll do that over drinks cigars in chaos at a
eight shrack to be named in podcasts the hell out
of it. But it's just the idea of, yeah, you're
trying to find a way, right. That was the college
football playoffs Bucky Man Monday night, January twentieth, Martin Luther

(07:06):
King Junior Day, full day of NBA action to commemorate it,
Inauguration Day, and there's the college football playoffs that end
basically like an NHL or NBA playoffs three months later.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
I know, I mean, so which is the bigger events?
A lot the inauguration?

Speaker 3 (07:26):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Well, I mean depends on how invested you are. Right.
For some folks, they've they've run and hid from politics
in any way, shape and form. Certainly in California, everybody
wants to hear what folks have to say coming out
of the fires. And we got rain over the last
couple of days, which adds some other element of danger
and surprise to it. All right, because now we're talking

(07:48):
about you know, the landslide, obligatory Fleetwood Mac reference, I'll
bring you down. So you got all of that going.
So all of that to say, we are we have
made it tochampionship Sunday. And I'm very invested in this
because I picked the Bills and Eagles before the season,
and I need to be right. I didn't believe in

(08:08):
the Lions. Now I have to because well the Bears
have their wonder boy, or at least that's what I'm
told fellas, that's where we have to go. But as
we get to this game, right, the appreciation slash hate
watching of Patrick Mahomes. I know you guys touched on
this a little bit, you know, And I think it's

(08:29):
the globe as a whole. It's not just confined to sports,
because we certainly do it with Hollywood. Oh here's this
guy again. Just go away, will you? Why is this
guy in another movie? Why you know all of this?
Or a woman that has four or five releases, not
to say that they hadn't been filmed over five years.
Someone was now bankable. So it gets pushed to the front.
But it happens in all of the things that we

(08:51):
watch voyeuristically that at some point you become that villain,
right stealing from Batman in the dark Knight, Right, you
live long enough to see yourself become the villain. And
Patrick Mahomes playing games Look, it's great gamesmanship. I thought
we liked the villains. I thought we were all anti
hero I just celebrated seventeen years of breaking bad guys,

(09:15):
aren't we in the anti heroes movies?

Speaker 4 (09:18):
Still are?

Speaker 2 (09:19):
We move it on, Andy, I like a good villain.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
Part of the problem is not the villain as much
as just we're tired of seeing the same faces. And
I'll tell you something, I think a lot of the
problem is also they're tired of seeing Taylor Swift every
time they watch these games with the Kansas City Chiefs.
They could take a shot up to the private box
where she's sitting.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
It doesn't bother me, I promise you.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
But there are people that's, oh Taylor Swift again, you know,
the football junkies.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
They didn't want to see that. That's the deal.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Can I walk door to door and give him all hugs, Bucky?
Because she accounts for about thirty seconds of a three
and a half hour presentation.

Speaker 5 (09:58):
I mean it, it's so rediculo all the it, right,
so all of it when it comes to that, like
people are wanting, like, here's the thing, like we talked
about in the country, right, we say we appreciate greatness
and excellence in those things, but as soon as we
encounter that, we hate on it. We hate Tom Brady,
we hate the Patriots when they were good.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
We now hate the kan City Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes
and everyone arounds him, annoys.

Speaker 5 (10:21):
Us, Travis Kelce and his girlfriend, Like we don't like
the Swifties.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
And all of that.

Speaker 5 (10:26):
And we claim that we love an underdog, but guess
what underdog stories don't do well for us because we
say we like it and then we see him on
the big stage and then it's never what we want
it to be. It is rare that the Rocky ball
Boys story comes to life.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
It just doesn't happen.

Speaker 5 (10:42):
And so to me, I respect that the Kancity Chiefs
have been able to consistently win and win and win
because it's so hard to do. It's so hard to
dominate time after time after time, and they've been able
to do it.

Speaker 4 (10:54):
So hats off to them. Hope they continue.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
Well, you appreciate the winning buck we do, but you
know why we don't. Don't do but not for a
long time. You win, that's good, move on, move on.
We don't want to see They don't want dynasties.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
That's the problem, is it, because like everything else we do,
watching winners all right, term limits.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
I like that, Well, turn limits on winning. Can't win
too much because then it's not fair to everybody.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
You're right now, This year, I would have to say
the Detroit Lions were almost like America's team. Everybody's pulling
for the Detroit Lions.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
They lost.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
They would have loved it if they would have won.
This year, they would have went to the Super Bowl
and won, and next year they'd be kind of threatened
to win again. Then it's like, oh, okay, you've been there,
done that. Let's look at somebody else.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Football guys, got the man.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
What we're saying, Listen to what we're saying. In a way,
we're saying we.

Speaker 5 (11:41):
Want we wanted to be nice and equitable that everyone
has an opportunity to win the trophy.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
That's how you have to set up.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
No, but we're not talking about what the league wants.
We're talking about what the people want with.

Speaker 5 (11:52):
The people on that, which is crazy, like, no, we
should respect winners and uh, if guys and teams are
able to win and win consistently, we should respect and
applot that tell your team to do better.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
I get tweets regularly whenever we get down the Chiefs
Highway Smith and I and certainly on this show at
Swollen Dome, at Andy Furman FSR, at Bucky Brooks. You
want to get in at Fox Sports Radio all along
the way, it's the you hate us because you ain't
us right, It's the go figure out how to play
within the margins. Because the one thing that the Chiefs

(12:26):
don't do just like the Bills all year long. Right,
I heard you, Bucky. You brought up the turnover differential.
It's something we've highlighted on the show a lot because
that is winning football. Win the trenches, don't turn the
ball over. That's it, that is winning football. I'll take
my consultant fee and I literally had to do two
minutes of work before grabbing a sandwich, a coke and
walking out the door. That's it. And so many teams.

(12:49):
How often do we come on this show on Sundays
or we're on during the week and we're talking about
bad coaching decisions, clock management, stupid penalties, bad just bad
coaching decisions, personnel or whatever the case may be. Play calls,
fourth down, aggressiveness, whatever. Chiefs don't do that. They're buttoned
up and they play within the margins. So it's like

(13:12):
those old Patriots, and we've made this comparison before that
you got to go and take it from them because
if it's late, if it's late, they're gonna come and
steal your girlfriend. That's it.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
It's done, and you have to say that the Bills
are going to take it from them. Today.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
You picked Buffalo, right, Yeah, I did before the year,
and I want to know why you would pick that.
Was it because you just hated Kansas City winning so much?
No hat to No, No, not at all, not at all,
because Diggs. I thought I thought they were finished. Really
there was a big loss for them. Well, obviously they
didn't work out, though.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Some of it goes down to an age old rule
in our show of We Don't Really Stand on chalk right.
Coming into the year, a lot of questions on Philly
we love the roster right, and that they'd get back
to form. And this is where I get into my
Saquon Barkley, Eric Henry, and Josh Jacob's arguments for folks,
they were already really good playoff teams. I'll drop my

(14:06):
microphone and walk off there. But it's the idea that
we got to come off the pack and everybody jumped
on board the Jets, so that was overweighted. I didn't
believe that that was gonna work. So in division, man,
the Dolphins are what they are. Didn't expect that Tua
would get through his season, and once again he didn't,
And then the Patriots were in complete rebuild mode. Like

(14:29):
the quarterback, A couple of good component parts, but overall
a disaster. And you know, then we get into the
argument of did you get done wrong with a one
and done scenario and now podcasters claiming that Vrabel had
the job as early as the first week of December,
So a little bit of dirty pool and then you know,
stuff swirling behind the scenes that we'll see if it
fleshes itself out. But looking at Josh Allen and what

(14:53):
he's been figuring Cook would be better. They drafted keon Coleman.
Should they have drafted Worthy and not done that? T sure,
but Coleman's come up a couple times big. You got
the tight ends. And defensively, I think Bucky you called
them the blue collar lunch pail guys, and that's what
they do. They get after it. They remind me, in

(15:13):
some ways, without the big personalities and a Super Bowl shuffle,
of the way the Bears played all those years ago,
or more specifically maybe the year that they went with
Rex Grossman. And obviously they have a much better quarterback
than Rex Grossman, but just that idea that your defense
is opportunistic, you don't give up things in the margins.

(15:35):
So yeah, and I went off the pace and I
took them.

Speaker 5 (15:40):
You know, it's funny because in a way, these teams
are very similar.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
We don't want to acknowledge it, but the Kansaity Chiefs
are Floyd maywork Weather.

Speaker 5 (15:50):
Right, everyone wanted Floyd Mayweather to go and knock people out.
But the version of the Chiefs that we're seeing is
the one that wins on points, and we grow frustrated
in seeing them win because it's not the pizazz the
sizzle that we once saw them exhibit when they had
Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelcey was younger and those things.
Much like pretty boy Floyd before it became money made Weather.

(16:14):
That's what Kansas City is, whereas the Buffalo Bills are a.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
Fighter that they gonna win on points. They're gonna win
with the jaff.

Speaker 5 (16:21):
They really don't have knockout power, so they just wait
for you to falter and then they're the ultimate counterpuncture. Well,
today we get a chance to see these teams and
the biggest fight that we'll see. And the first go round,
Kansas City was still doing their regular season things since
that game though, they were going very conservative on offense.

(16:42):
They don't turn it over. They wait for the other
team to implode and then they win a variety of ways,
block field goal, pump return, whatever it takes, they win.
I just wonder do the Buffalo Bills have enough offense
to be able to score points to force Kansas City
out of that shell game that they're playing. And I
just don't know if they can get it done because
talent normally matters in the postseason. And when you look

(17:05):
at their offense, is Josh Allen and the who? Because
I don't know who else is going to tell and
do it, but that's what it is.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
He's going to have to be Superman for them to win.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
I disagree a little bit what you're saying. I tell
you why.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
Yeah, I think that the general public would like to
see Kansas City lose, not because they're dominating, not because
they've had.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
Some sort of a mini streak going on the third
straight Super Bowl. Perhaps.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
I think they want them to lose, but they think
they're getting aided by the officials. That's why this whole
story never would have come up. Yeah, we don't root
for the villain, and I think every sport needs a villain.
Every sport needs an individual villain and a team villain.
The Yankees for years with villains, Okay, the Montreal Canadians,
the Boston Celtics, people came to see them lose because
they dominated, but they always respected the fact that they

(17:50):
were that good. That's why they rooted against them. They
want the home team to beat that team. But with
the Kansas City Chiefs, they think everybody thinks to have
a crutch, and the crutch of the officiating, and honestly,
it's almost gotten out of control, it really has.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
With the officiating garbage.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Well, that narrative certainly took off. And look it goes
back to you again. We'd all love our teams to
be able to play within those margins. A little bit
of jealousy, a little bit of consistency. How you spend
the money. Right out here in Los Angeles, we've been
calling even before showhand Tani showed up in the Los Angeles,
we were already calling them the new evil Empire Smith
and I. And look what they've done since you know

(18:26):
what you don't like it tell your team to spend
some money, you know, putting up a big graft about
how you're gonna reduce your concessions price. That's not it.
That's it. That's not it. It's you know what we
call math, It's math. Hey, the under is hit ten
and ten and three to the under with Cleayton Blakeman

(18:48):
and his refereeing crew in playoff games all time. But
I think you'll enjoy this one, fellas, since the refereeing
has been the hot topic on the side and what
are we gonna get? They were tied for the most
penalty flags thrown in twenty twenty four with two hundred
and fifty two. Craig Rollstad and their crew, Blakeman and

(19:10):
their crew two hundred and fifty two. Next tour Bird
at two thirty five. Then you got a couple of
two thirty one, and then it starts to drop off precipitously.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
And then jeeves the league offensive holding penalties.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (19:25):
See, everyone thinks that the fix is in, like the
league is orchestrating this this stuff.

Speaker 4 (19:31):
It's not.

Speaker 5 (19:32):
It's everyone is emotional. Everyone's in their feelings because they
can't beat them. Look, the only way that I can
equate being a Carolina fan, Carolina basketball fan, the Chiefs
are like Duke. Right when Duke is really good in
their heyday, there's this sense that Duke going all the
way back, like JJ Reddick, they always got the calls
right whenever it was tight. It just appears that the

(19:54):
officials like will give a call and it would be
something different. But what really happens is they're good and
we're just sitting there hanging on to this notion that
the referees are cheating for them, as opposed to really
acknowledging their greatness and not being able to appreciate how
good they are or whatever it is they're doing to win.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
How foolish does it even think the referees would be
cheating for them? You know, I've heard stories this week
saying that, well, the league is dictating to the officials
to make sure Kansas City gets in the finals in
the Super Bowl. Come on, really get a life, please,
because it all goes back to gambling. I'm telling you
a lot of it goes back to the gambling.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Right now. It's out of control.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Well, but that's just it, right. You get a bunch
of cacophony of voices when a guy runs out of
the back of the end zone in the final seconds
of a game for a safety. You get because depending
on where you got in on the line, plenty of
people still won right that button. You know you look
at the land.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
Happened last night University of sits down.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
He was playing Brigham Young in basketball, okay, and they
lost by thirty. Guy and Brigham Young at the b
puts up a three pointer. All right, he made it.
The coach apologized to the Cincinnati coach why he did it.
The good news is for the fans, they got, like
Jimmy Johns free his sandwiches after the game because they
got a certain amount of points. Maybe that's why he's
in it. I don't know why he did it, but

(21:16):
maybe there was a point spurre on the guy. I
don't look, I didn't see the spread between Brigham Young
and you.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
See last night now, But now you got me interested.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
Okay, But why would a guy take a three at
the buzzer and he made it?

Speaker 2 (21:27):
Was he a guy that normally doesn't play then he
wants to show up in a box?

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Could be right.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
It's like running your fifth, fifth string running back. You
can walk off the field. You don't walk off the
field before the buzzer sounds. I'm scoring on your ass.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
All that happened years ago when when Cincinnati I went
to the game with May he rest in peace. Joe
Paterna when Penn State played Cincinnatian football way back when
and they beat him sixty two nothing, and there was
like a lot of complaints that why did you run
up the score? And Joe p said, look, I didn't
run up the score. I had my third third stringers
in there, and they want to show me what they
could do because they have a play wow rings in

(22:02):
there in the second quarter.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Right nowadays, I mean, there's a lot of money on
the line, right, you get to be seen. Maybe you
can enter the n I L sweepstake something. We're talking
about a lot Ohio State. How many guys might suddenly
jump in the portal because there's a giant check waiting
for him. Jeremiah Smith, Right, I mean Ryan Day and
is painted beard already complaining, Hey, they're coming from my guys.
What do you do? Of course they're coming for your guys.

Speaker 5 (22:25):
We don't we don't think. We don't think the beard
is is natural.

Speaker 4 (22:28):
We don't think that.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
I think it's the old commercial with Walt Frasier and
Keith Nanz looks, so we think it was it was
that Greece.

Speaker 4 (22:39):
Is that what it was? What was that that old commercial.
Is that what it is?

Speaker 1 (22:45):
They still do it? Still see doing that?

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Oh no, I'm sure he does.

Speaker 4 (22:49):
Yeah, I mean, let's see what a commercial?

Speaker 2 (22:51):
What's that commercial? Just for men?

Speaker 1 (22:53):
Just for men?

Speaker 2 (22:55):
I mean, Brian her Lockham. You go to Chicago, There's
there's billboards everywhere with his new had a hair guy
played bald for years and then all of a sudden,
there he is with a muppet on his head. What
a good for him?

Speaker 1 (23:06):
Keep warm?

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Well, you look at Chicago you want to? I mean,
it got down really cold the last few days. As
we continue coaching Carousel and one Hall of Famer, you
would expected to be out spoken. Our guys shape put
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posted right after we get off the air. Gentlemen, A
wild woolye week in the coaching carousel. Some of the

(24:42):
hires seem like they were done three months ago. That
national title game between Ohio State and Notre Dame seems
like it was done a month ago. There's just been
so much information and weaving all the way through, whether
it's the Hall of Fame, whether it's you know, the
nil talk, and then obviously leading up to these champmionship games,
but the coaching carousel ran am uck, and on Friday

(25:04):
we got what you would call in the business a
news dump. Yes it was expected, but there's one Hall
of Fame receiver that certainly was not happy about it.

Speaker 6 (25:12):
Two NFC East teams in NFC Championship Game being played tomorrow,
our eyes on the Philadelphia Eagles and the Washington Commanders,
our enemies on all fronts, and a hole in a

(25:34):
position that we haven't held in thirty years.

Speaker 7 (25:39):
Yeah, the longest drought by any NFC East team, any
NFC team period, thirty years.

Speaker 8 (25:50):
We're losing ground on this NFC right Well, don't we
know who's going to be in the NFC Championship game.
We haven't been there in thirty years.

Speaker 4 (25:58):
Let me just break down what.

Speaker 8 (25:59):
That means to be, because when people said he said,
O hum ohum o hum, but no ohumd that that's
thirty damn years.

Speaker 4 (26:09):
Forty years is a generation.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
We got thirty years right here right now. It was
critical mass.

Speaker 6 (26:15):
It was time to bring somebody in that to shape
things up and.

Speaker 8 (26:19):
Grab this last leg off Cowboy's nature.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Now the question becomes who would be that coach? Obviously
Brian Schottenheimer gets the job. They fixed the glitch, whatever
you believe about the end days of Mike McCarthy. They
played hard, down the stretch, won some games, did some things.
You got continuity. He was an analyst before he became
the offensive coordinator. So some of that makes sense for Shottenheimer,

(26:44):
But we get these old narratives for Jerry Jones that
pop up once again. Fellas. I was curious for our
nationwide audience that may have missed your conversations on this
a little bit earlier. Andy, what do you think should
they have made a bigger splash or should Jerry Jones
have hired Michael That was his voice.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
Well, I don't think you can make a bigger slash.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
I don't know what Marty Miles, Marty Shott, what Brian
Schott namerged one in the NFL to create a bigger splash.
What has he done. I don't think it's a major
difference or anything. I don't think you're bettering yourself without
Mike McCarthy. I like Mike McCarthy. He's got a better
track record. I think he'd get the job done. He
had injuries, he had Dak Prescott on the shelf. I
think it was a foolish move and I don't know

(27:27):
why it was done. I know he was internal because
he was on the offensive side of the football. But still,
in all I don't see any change. I don't think
he's going to elevate that team to another level.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
I just don't. He's not a Kyle Shanahan offensive guy.

Speaker 5 (27:43):
Well, I don't know about all of that in terms
of like the play calling those things, because being a
head coach has a little to do it being a
play caller.

Speaker 4 (27:50):
But I will say he said it to any of his.

Speaker 5 (27:52):
Dad, who was one of only eight coaches with two
hundred wins, if he learned anything from Marty Schottenheimer in
terms of playing Marty ball, which is we've talked about
the two teams that are remaining in the AFC, how
they take care of the ball, they don't turn it over,
they are opportunistic on the defensive side of the ball,
and it's led to wins. If he does the same
thing in Dallas, he's going to win. Really, it's not

(28:14):
about making these sizzle plays.

Speaker 4 (28:17):
In those things.

Speaker 5 (28:17):
It's doing the ordinary things exceptionally well and it's making
the fewest mistakes to win games. That's what his dad preached,
and I'm sure Brian understands that. And just because then,
I'll use Mike Rabel as an example. Mike Rabel was
a middle of the road defensive coordinator for Houston Texans
when he got the job the head job for the
Tennessee Titans, and at the time it was kind of crazy, like, man,

(28:40):
he wasn't even great as a coordinator, but he ended
up becoming a really good head coach. I think Brian
Schottenheimer has the potential to be able to do that.

Speaker 4 (28:48):
He understands what it's supposed to look like.

Speaker 5 (28:50):
He's been around great coaches throughout his time as a
NFL assistant. He has plenty of experience twenty four years
on the sideline at the NFL level, fourteen of those coordinator,
I think he understands how to get it, and more importantly,
his relationship with the higher ups, their collaboration, their chemistry,
their ability to work together, gives him an opportunity to

(29:12):
be successful. So I wouldn't dismiss the idea of him
being successful, even though it's not the sexy pick that
bren Downson was with the Chicago Bears.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
I hear what you say, but is it a better
move than getting rid of Mike McCarthy. Would it be
better off keeping McCarthy.

Speaker 5 (29:28):
I mean, it's fine, but like, let's be real, and
I love Mike McCarthy. I think you did a really
good job winning twelve games three straight years, but people
are judged on your playoff success, right, So there's all
this future all that goes to Mike Tomlin in Pittsburgh,
not because he hasn't had a losing season, but because
they haven't won a playoff game.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
It's happened with the Caliboy now.

Speaker 5 (29:51):
Yeah, and so for the Cowboys, they haven't won playoff games.
And so if you're Brian Schottenheimer and if you're able
to just win a playoff game in advance to the
next round, you're better than your predecessor. Can he do that?
Dak Prescott to come there. They have a good relationship.
He was in Seattle with Russell Wilson and Pete Carroll.

Speaker 4 (30:09):
He saw how it's done there.

Speaker 5 (30:11):
I wouldn't dismiss it. And just because you don't win
the sizzle of the press conference doesn't mean that you
won't be a good coach. Look at Dan Cambell and
how we laughed and stick it when he talked about
kneecaps and ankles and biting and all that other crazy stuff.

Speaker 4 (30:24):
He spewed out his first.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
Press Well, look at one of the guys up there today,
Coach Bucky, I mean Dan Quinn. The last time before
he became a head coach for Washington, he got run
off the field by the Green Bay Packers that gave
up a one fifty eight point three rating. And now
he's a head coach. They've gotten a culture together. How
about you guys enjoying the stories about Dan Snyder being

(30:48):
you know, really kicked off.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
I love it, Oh, I love it.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
And there's a couple of guys. Former executive Jason Wright
go Katz. He was at a bar last week. He
immediately posted avocate we were building and to see this
like tears in his eyes, like there's just that pride.
I was hearing from my friends who had been Washington
fans for as long as I've known him and been
in this business, you know, showing me pictures of them

(31:12):
when they were six years old, wearing their old monk
jerseys and all of those things.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
But who doesn't want to Who doesn't want an operation
to fail? Once you get fired, it's normal. Look, I'm
not a fan of Dance Snightder. I didn't like the
fact that he was hesitant about changing the name of
the Redskins. I think it was the wrong thing to do.
They eventually did it. But the point is that he
was honest in the sense that, hey, look you got
rid of me. That the heck would I to see
the team go down the tubes? That's the way it is.

(31:39):
And I mentioned this to Bucky Doug Peterson was fired
as Koja Jacksonville. You don't think he wants to see
that team lose? Now, of course he does. He don't
never say it. That's why credit Dance Snyder. He went
public and said it.

Speaker 5 (31:49):
I mean, I appreciate it. I appreciate him saying it.
Like we all are kind of bitter, Like you never
want to feel like you were a disposable part.

Speaker 4 (31:57):
Of the operation.

Speaker 5 (31:58):
We all like to have enough self esteem to think
that we're very valuable commodities and Dan Snyder is sitting
here looking like, Man, I cannot believe after all these years,
they decide now that they're going to be a winning team.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
Right and after.

Speaker 5 (32:12):
Penny pinching and doing all the other stuff that he did,
and they're notorious for being huge penny pinchers, the Commanders
are good.

Speaker 4 (32:20):
And it's sad.

Speaker 5 (32:22):
One of the researchers that I work with at NFL Network,
I guess he was born in ninety three. He said,
I've never seen my team be a good team. This
is the first time in my lifetime. And I'm looking
at him, like, what are you talking about? Like the
Redskins used to dominate, but I forgot they haven't been
a dominant team since the nineties. The Cowboys there, yeah, yeah,

(32:45):
so it's more of a Folsey the only And I'm
gonna say this, and I know, like when we talk
about the previous logo and nickname of the Commanders is
politically incorrect, but to me, there is something about them
being good and watching I would say the Cousin uniforms, right,
because they're trying to wear the gold pant, the gold pant,

(33:06):
the yellow pants and all that. But I'm just like,
there's a part of me just like, can we just
go back? Like, can we just go back to the
old UNI. We can change the logo so the headdress
and stuff is not there, but instead of dancing with it,
can we just go all the way back to what
it used to look like? Because to me, that's that's

(33:26):
the part of Washington that I miss. I missed him
singing the chance httr, I miss all of it.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
Good John.

Speaker 5 (33:33):
I know we can't wax weet it or whatever, and
I know that we've evolved in those things, but there's
a part of me that wishes they connect with the
old fan base because those things, to me, are so
nostalgic and traditionish.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
Yeah, let me go back to the country situation today,
because you talk about like a bucket board of the
fact that Mike Tomin's getting some heat right now on
a playoff game. You know that's great when the fan
base is so demanding. I live in the Cincinnati area.
They haven't made the playoffs in two years, and it's
ho hum. No one cares. No one cares, the fans care.
All right, what did the ownership do? They fired Louis Anarumo,

(34:09):
the defensive coordinator, and the press cover.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Yeah, Travis Kelcey on his podcast had a lot of
big four letter words and Jeron's that he wanted to
get on that because that's kind of where I want
to go as we go. Did we find a savior
for a team? My team in this? And I also
want to since you brought up the Bengals, Andy, I
want to talk about the worst term in sports hashtag

(34:36):
bad words at Swollen Dome, at Andy Furman FSR, at
Bucky Brooks. We'll tell you what that's all about next
here on Fox Sports Radio. Hey, welcome back in Fox
Sports Radio, Fox Football Sunday, Andy Furman, Bucky Brooks and
me Mike Carmon. As we continue, guys, very excited right
in Chicago. And they might as well have a ticker

(34:57):
tape parade for Ben Johnson. Already ain't all the right
things in the media. You got Caleb Williams dressing like
he's an neo in the matrix, all of these things.
It's now too big to fail in Chicago. They tell me, Andy,
tell me why this is the change.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
I think they think he's an offensive genius and they
got the quarterback of the future.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
So let's see what happens over there.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
But look, I think it's great when they have a
coach or they make a hire that gets the community
and the fan base excited.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
That's important. It really is.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
To some extent that may be more important than actually
winning when the season starts, because you want people with
to buy tickets and get all excited, to get hyped up.
The media gets hyped up. So I think that's the
name of the game right there. That's what they did.

Speaker 5 (35:40):
Yeah, I mean they certainly went out to win. The
presser right, sure, this is a date and those things
and all of that stuff.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
And he came in and look, he was a.

Speaker 5 (35:50):
Rousing success, right, energized the building immediately.

Speaker 4 (35:53):
He talked about coach and what we got to do
to serve the players.

Speaker 5 (35:57):
Even took a jab at the Green Bay Packers, which
I would say is not a wise one, because now
you've given them fodder, so there'd be a lot of energy.
And we'll hear the press or the introductory press conference
quotes again when they play the Packers. But look, on
the surface, it looks great. But I'll say this and
I'll say this about it every time. We never know
how good a head coach is. Going to be until

(36:19):
he is a head coach. Yeah, there's no indicator, So
we'll see how he handles it. And with the quarterback,
I'll say the same thing Caleb Williams and those things.
But what I can tell you about Ben Johnson, Ben
Johnson coach is hard and so the feel good unless
coach kayleb Williams with a feather, that's not what he's getting.
He's getting a hard nosed coach when it comes to

(36:40):
the quarterback, and we will see how he responds to that.
We'll see in significant if he can get the best
performance out of the number one overall pick.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Still, some all those comparisons to Jaden Daniels pushed aside
because they got their guy all right now, Bears fans
and pundits, you can't complain. This is the guy you
stumped for and you used every metric to do. They
make the big splash that in thirteen million.

Speaker 4 (37:03):
Don't you don't sound really excited about it?

Speaker 2 (37:06):
Well, it's infrastructure time, right, It's like and I like
the way he talked about it. But you know, as
my buddy Todd Furman, who the Bet the Board podcast,
joins Jason and I every every week, and he's on
with Arnie and playing on Sunday nights wrapping stuff up.
He goes he doesn't get to bring on on Ross
Saint Brown. He doesn't have a quarterback who's really good
at the timing stuff right now like Jared Goff became,

(37:29):
and that offensive line doesn't come. So that's that's kind
of where I'm at. A lot lot of build you,
and I'll continue chopping this up because you've got to
make me feel better. That needs a Cubs fan. But
we'll move on from that. And yes we are hearing
the tire rag dot com studios. I mentioned the term
I hate more than anything else in our sporting universe

(37:49):
is quote unquote house money. There is no such thing.
And Andy Brown up the Cincinnati Bengals as the greatest example.
And I've told this story on Fox Sports Radio and
in parties and dinners a million times. I remember everybody
leaving that Super Bowl against the Rams. It's the era

(38:11):
of good times. We're gonna keep running back there every year.
House money. No no, no, no, no, you got them
fabulous run.

Speaker 4 (38:19):
Now.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Ask Dan Marino about house money. Oh, he was only
in a second year. Ask Jim Kelly about house money.
If we want to go to the Bills or Thurman, Thomas,
Andre Reid and all those other guys, even Aaron Rodgers. Right,
you got one, yeah, right, Mike Tomlin, Mike McCarthy, John Harbaugh,
all these guys, you got one. And that's a long

(38:40):
time ago. So the term house money to me is
just foolhardy trying to convince yourself that everything going forward
you will have no obstacles and you're following down the
yellow brick road to Oz where the wizard will actually
be your friend.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
There's another turn that goes hand in hand with house money.
It's culture. And I can't stay in the big list bucket,
you know as well as I do. You know they
say culture can change the cold. No, get the personnel.
I don't care if they don't talk to one another.
You've got great players.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
That's a hot take. In the final minutes, we need
we want to stay on for another fifteen minutes.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
We are family in Pittsburgh. Remember that, you know. I
don't think cold is that big of a deal.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
Start at the field.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
They got the job, do your job, Go out there
and go your own way.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
I don't care.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
Wow, that's spicy. Wow. I should have let the show.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
Than trash with you guys.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
Wow, you're the best. Hey, Andy, who'd you pick for today?

Speaker 5 (39:36):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (39:36):
It's easy, got the Eagles and the Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
There you go, rematch and Bucky. We'll talk about it
a little more next hour. But for those who may
have a change of programming or need to go walk
the dog. What do you got?

Speaker 4 (39:50):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (39:51):
I mean, look, it's gonna be Eagles and Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
I got the Eagles and the Bills. That's Andy Furman
and Andy Firman FSR bug in Bucky and I continue
next on. Get those fours up, four teams remaining three
games so we crown a champion, and then we'll begin
in earnest the road to WrestleMania in Las Vegas. Wait
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(40:35):
see him his face. Ah, yes, you read him, you
hear him on his podcast, all of these things, all
the goodness, he's a coach. We were talking at the
end of last hour, Bucky. You disagreed very strongly with
our guy Andy Furman because he'd threw up culture as
a four letter word and dropped his microphone and right

(40:59):
out out the door like night.

Speaker 4 (41:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (41:03):
I think you and everyone else who have been around
teams that have not been good would like dispute that
at the end of the season. I found it interesting
because in a player's league where everyone thinks that the
players coach is the one that gets along with the
players as opposed to the one that holds them accountable.
At the end of the year, I heard Cole Comet

(41:25):
and I heard several Bears players talk about we got
to fix the culture in the locker room. We got
to hold people accountable. We can't have people come in late.
We can't have people not practicing to the level that
they need to practice so we can play at a
higher level.

Speaker 4 (41:38):
That's environment.

Speaker 5 (41:39):
And so when people talk about culture, it's a group
of people who have shared values.

Speaker 4 (41:45):
When it comes to their belief system.

Speaker 5 (41:48):
And if you don't have that, then how can you
ever achieve what you need to achieve because you have
to have guys who hold people accountable to a certain
standard that has been set. That standard can be set
in the established by the coaches or whatever, but it's
uphill by the players.

Speaker 4 (42:04):
So despite the talent that Andy.

Speaker 5 (42:06):
Was alluding to, we can have a great team, we
can be superbly, supremely talented, but if everyone isn't operating
with the same standard in mind, will never achieve what
we could achieve because everyone is not capable of being
trusted that they're going to perform at their best when
their best is required.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
Oh this is where we get teams and we get
the surprise like we have today with the Commanders and
what dan Quinn was able to install again, you know.
And Jason laughs at me all the time, my partner,
Jason Smith during the week because remember he was coming
out of getting bounced out of Dallas because of what
happened with Jordan Love. But immediately it's like, all right,

(42:45):
here's the vision, let's go and the Bears. You mentioned
Cole Comet, you can go find audio before eber Flues
got fired of him. Jalen Johnson and several other team
leaders who were already barking up that tree. And then
you go and promote Thamas Brown and he did work
some wonders right as coordinator with Caleb Williams, they got
rid of some of the stuff. Look, I hate that

(43:08):
everybody wanted to pin on the Hey, look, he hasn't
thrown an interception in forever. It's like, yeah, that also
tells me you're not trying to push the ball right,
You're not being aggressive in your play calling in structure.
But that's for Ben Johnson to now figure out. But
all of that to say, you had that, you had
that in Miami right with Mike McDaniel, and now you
my god, now you get the Tyreek Hill thing where

(43:28):
he's like, well, you know, I've always been a winner.
I've always been great. I'm paraphrasing quite obviously and giving
you the full camera effect here in Hollywood, and you're like, wow,
I mean so for me, I mean, I was just
frustrated because I'm just so used to being so great,
which okay, and that's all find and good, but Mike
McDaniel really just calling out the entire locker room. It's like,

(43:49):
look in the mirror. You had eighteen weeks to fix that.

Speaker 4 (43:54):
I can't. I can't.

Speaker 5 (43:55):
I mean, look, I can only find him. I can
It's only so much I can do. If they keep
being late. What if everyone is late, there's nothing that
you can do. I mean, guys are gonna be late.
So it's only so much you can do. I can
only take so much money out of their pocket or whatever. Well,
then if they are perpetually late, at some point you
got to let them go. You got to sit them down.

(44:15):
That's the only thing that I know that resonates at
every level. If you put someone on the bench and
take their playing time, that quickly gets their attention. No
matter how much money you make, these guys are all
the same. If they're not doing what you want them
to do, sit them down, the behavior changes. There's a
great clip out there Bobby Knight talking about how there

(44:37):
is something that the bench does through osmosis to get
people to play better. And so if you find that clip,
it explains it all. But Bobby Knight says it, and
I agree with it. If you don't like what you're getting,
you don't like their behavior, sit them down to make
the behavior change.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
Guys on the edge of their seats, hoping to get
their five minutes, steal a little bit of time where
maybe they wouldn't in a normal matchup. Same thing, right times,
you got to send the strong match message right with Andy,
you know, he brings up the Bengals and what they
were doing, and obviously I brought up the Super Bowl
of the expectations of running back. Well, Zach Taylor's failed

(45:12):
them every September, and obviously Joe Burrows had some injury issues.
But if you don't play football in September, you can't
expect to be able to charge down the field like
like a thoroughbread at the Kentucky Derby in December, because
then you need a lot of stuff to go your way. Right,
horse gets tired, jockey gets you know, frustrated, can't close out,

(45:34):
starts to go a little wide because it's tired, all
of those things. Like you're banking on everything to go
perfectly for you if you give away those games early.
So I always get up frustrated. I was like, Ah,
it's an early September game. It's like that's finding college football, right,
as long as you're within the parameters of a twelve
team playoff High Alabama that you're going to get a
chance to go play for a title. But in Bros,

(45:57):
that's not the way it works.

Speaker 5 (46:00):
It doesn't work that way. And you have to continue
to work on them when it comes to that part
of it, like they need to continue to work on
making sure that everyone is on the same page.

Speaker 4 (46:12):
You got to hold them accountable.

Speaker 5 (46:14):
You got to get that part right before you can
even think about the x's and o's. And it's funny
because we have seen lesser teams go to the Super
Bowl that you being a Bears fan, the team that
with Devin Hester and those guys, they were talented, but
that was not the most talented team that you've seen
come through Chicago.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
Oh, everything had to go right, go back to turnovers
and the ball bouncing your way, defensive turnovers, Devin Hester
setting records. The offense had its moments, right, Thomas Jones
and those guys they had, they had their moments. But
certainly it wasn't the wizardry around Rex Grossman that got
that to work. Sometimes you win lucky, you win ugly.

Speaker 5 (46:51):
Yeah, And it was the vibe and the energy right,
Like the vibe was right, the players are right, that
defense I just remember going to Washington practice early in
the year and how Lovey Smith had them running to
the ball like mad men, how Pena Tillman was knocking
the ball out, and how it was contagious when it
came to their defense. Their defense was their best offense,
and how they would pick up everything and the expectation

(47:12):
wasn't that they were going to turn the ball over.

Speaker 4 (47:13):
They talked about scoring every time they got a turnover.
It was like a.

Speaker 5 (47:17):
Coordinated return team when you receive that Bears team go offensively.
They weren't great, right, they did enough, but they that
team went to a Super Bowl. There have been teams
that are better, more talented than that group that Chicago
can't even get to a winning record. And part of
that is the culture and the environment, you know, I mean,
that's what it is.

Speaker 4 (47:38):
And you have to fix that.

Speaker 5 (47:39):
And so we'll see if Ben Johnson is able to
implement and install a culture that allows those guys to
play better. But every athlete, every player that's worth assault,
they want structure, discipline, and consistency. They want to know
that every day they come in it's going to be
the same kind of structure and environment, so they can
settle in and do what they need to do to

(48:00):
be ready.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
Their kids, their kids going to school. Here's my structure,
one three, five day, here's the classes I gotta go.
Here's when lunch is. And that's what Billy's gonna call
me a jerk. I'm gonna, you know, you know, do
the little hand gestures like I'm from a mob movie.
We're gonna nod our heads and move on with our day.
I mean, it's it's structure, it's it's continuity, right, whenever

(48:24):
you have something that comes out of the weeds. Right,
I can plan to get here early to record a
podcast or whatever, but guess what, I'm in Los Angeles.
What was a forty minute drive becomes two hours. Sorry,
we'll have to do it after the show or tomorrow.
I you know, best laid plans and all of those things.
But you're trying to have a structure, a continuity, post

(48:45):
consistently all of those best practices kind of things that
you go through. So I have to ask you out
of these hires. We're still waiting on New Orleans to
figure out what they're doing. Uh, And I figure you're
gonna just give me a thread of like nine thousand
things of what really happened with Liam Cohen and everything
there in Jacksonville. Who's your favorite higher out of the six?

Speaker 4 (49:05):
You know? My favorite high is Pete Carroll going to
the Las Vegas Raiders.

Speaker 5 (49:11):
And the reason why is I want to see if
Pete Carroll is able to do what he did at
USC and Seattle, where he being the ultimate culture builder,
jumps in there like the pie Piper, sings all this
positive songs, you know, throws the ball around while chewing
that bubblelicious bubblegum and just trying to get the Raiders going.

(49:33):
Because there's some decent players with the Las Vegas Raiders,
but what they've missed is what we talked about, the consistency,
the structure, the discipline, and even the detail.

Speaker 4 (49:44):
And even though Pete Carroll is a little.

Speaker 5 (49:46):
Loosey goosey if you compare him to like the Nick
Saban and Bill Belichick types, he has had a lot
of success doing it his own way. So I want
to see if he can get the Raiders to play
like the Raiders while having fun and doing all that
other stuff that he.

Speaker 4 (50:02):
Does within a very structured environment.

Speaker 5 (50:05):
So I'm excited about that and I'm also excited about, Like, look,
all of these coaching hires can't work.

Speaker 4 (50:09):
So if you have six coaching hires, one is going
to hit in a major.

Speaker 5 (50:12):
Way, Maybe another one or two more may be okay,
and then three are gonna feel miserably.

Speaker 4 (50:19):
I want to see what Aaron Lynn does.

Speaker 5 (50:21):
Going back to New York, going back to where he played,
where he was reared and developed under Bill Parcelles and
Bill Belichick being there, and I want to see how
much of that hard knows stuff he's able to implement there,
because knowing Ag personally, I have seen him in an
environment where high school kids completely tear them the streds

(50:46):
when they did not meet the standard. So I can
only imagine when Aaron Rodgers is over there doing his thing,
his witchcraft and all this other stuff and his.

Speaker 4 (50:57):
Philosophizing on the sideline. Only imagine how long.

Speaker 5 (51:01):
That's gonna go over Will before he blows a gasket
and tries to get him in line.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
Yeah, because I think I think we assume, yeah, as
your word's there, I've got to assume that Rogers comes
back and they get a placeholder, build the foundation. Kind
of year we had Jason Cole on the other day
he writes for the thirty third Team and Hall of
Fame Voter, a bunch of books, the Lway Books, fantastic.
He just raised his hand as Smith was trying to

(51:27):
take a victory lap Jets guy, of course, for those unaware.
Right after the Bears and Ben Johnson, the next day
we get Aaron Glenn. But he just asked, rhetorically, how
much different is this other than maybe he's more fiery
than Robert Salah in terms of what you're bringing in
the CV the history obviously Glenn played, but in terms

(51:50):
of temperament and what he's bringing to the table, you know,
major differences. That's suddenly gonna make the Jets a contender.

Speaker 4 (52:01):
I mean, that is a really good point. I don't know.

Speaker 5 (52:04):
I mean I wonder what does change? What does change
with all of it? Do they can't? Can can he
get him? Can he get him better? Who's gonna be
the offensive coach? You know how they're going to do
it when it comes to defensively?

Speaker 4 (52:20):
Is you gonna call it? Or is you gonna be
the CEO type?

Speaker 5 (52:22):
All of those things are really interesting to me, really
fascinating when it comes to it.

Speaker 4 (52:27):
But Jason Cole brings up a good thing.

Speaker 5 (52:30):
How is he different than Robert Salad because the gest
is some unusual. Normally you go from defensive coach to
offensive coach, back to defensive coach, et.

Speaker 4 (52:38):
Cetera, et cetera, because you always want the opposite of
what you had.

Speaker 5 (52:42):
Not that they're the same, but they are the same,
two defensive guys that are like fire and brimstone types.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
What changes, right, new head men, right, new new territory
for them to traverse. Aaron Wilson reporting that the passing
game coordinator tight ends coach Nick k of the Rams
is the leading candidate to be their offensive coordinator. So
if you do bring back Rogers, right, it's well, you're
gonna have to shuffle out some of his friends. So
get through the moodiness there, and then how much do

(53:11):
you take him at his word that the back half
of the season was happy because he played some pretty
good football at times. Right, They collapsed in the fourth
quarter of games, So still some question marks there, but
the numbers look good. Top ten in a bunch of
categories touchdown to interception ratio. Is there a little bit
more mobility? Did he need more time post injury to
get back to more of Aaron Rodgers. You have to

(53:33):
go and figure out how to Playkate Garrett Wilson, who
clearly hated everybody and everything in the final weeks of
that season. So that DeVante Adams does he come back,
I mean, you've got some personnel questions, you got a
new GM that comes in from Denver. All of that
to say, you know, last year they won the offseason,
everybody got excited, and it was an absolute train wreck.

(53:54):
And now we look to the next Pete Carroll higher
to me, Bucky is is fun for a million reais
because as long as these guys are wandering the sideline
him there and Belichick, you know down in North Carolina,
you're Alma mater, and you'll go and you know you're
gonna get me a bunch of sign pictures and stuff.
Thank you. And then the or lebron and Staph that

(54:15):
we talked about in now ur one. So long as
they're playing, I don't feel so old.

Speaker 5 (54:20):
M hm.

Speaker 4 (54:21):
I mean, yes, I'm with that, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
And then Andy Reid sixty eight doesn't seem sixty eight.
But the question is, now does he color his mustache
like Ryan Day?

Speaker 4 (54:34):
The Ryan Day thing is fascinating. It's funny like it
it is, it is, it is funny.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
Well, I mean the guy can coach, right, We established that,
and everybody called it the lunatic fringe of potentially getting
fired and whatever. It's always the conversation that we have
of who are you gonna find that's better. But we've
watched with a number of coaches where those the cacophony
of voices starts to rise up. Like I said, I
do a weekly spot in Baltimore. They didn't lead with

(55:02):
the Andrews drop. They led with Harbaugh and then got
to Lamar Jackson and eventually got to Mark Andrews. You
knew the meat was there for Mark Andrews quite obviously,
because as I said during the week, and everyone's like, wow,
it's still ninety seconds Josh Allen and blah blah blah,
And I'm like, they gave up six points in the

(55:23):
second half. Did the Baltimore defense They gave up twenty
one in the first half. Seven of them off of
the Lamar Jackson gaff gift right defense have played really well.
So yeah, would you rather have the two point conversion
and fight Josh Allen or say, we don't get it,
but you know what, we got a sliver of a
chance to collect an on side kick. Oh and then

(55:45):
we have to trust Justin Tucker if we can't get
a touchdown in those final minutes.

Speaker 4 (55:50):
Come on, you're okay with that?

Speaker 2 (55:54):
Bad arguments bad?

Speaker 5 (55:56):
Yeah, I mean you're okay with what that is going
on to be. So it's look, man, it's a tough
situation for the poor ravens Lamar Jackson. I actually felt
like Lamar Jackson's reaction after the game was almost as
if a weight was lifted off his back because it

(56:18):
was the first time he really played well in that round.
We can talk about the turnovers and those things that
he had.

Speaker 4 (56:24):
He played really well the second.

Speaker 5 (56:26):
Half and in fact, that last drive was everything that
you wanted to see that people that talked about can
lead him back and whatever.

Speaker 4 (56:33):
And so he is.

Speaker 5 (56:34):
A drop two point conversion away from I would say
a legacy performance.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
At least anything to push it over. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (56:43):
Yeah, If anything, I think he comes walks away from
that with more confidence that, Okay, if I can just
settle in, I can do this at a high level
in these big games.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
You know, it's fun stuff at Bucky Brooks where you
find them, read them, NFL, Foxsports dot Com Podcast, everything else.
Daniel Jeremiah your partner on the pod. He put up
his first first round mock draft. You want to dive
into that a little bit, Let's do that as we continue.
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over at Swollen Dome in both places. Now I mentioned
mock draft season has begun. We've got the Shrine game

(58:41):
coming up. Shador Sanders with one of the great quotes
of all times, like don't we try to get parents
to be involved in their kids' lives and help them along.
As people were asking about Dion and the Invisible Hand
and whether it's a detriment to him, it's like it's narratives, goes.
But isn't that what we always strive for? Isn't that
the talking point? I really like the answer for him,

(59:03):
as he smiled at the reporter the entire time.

Speaker 5 (59:09):
Yeah, I like that, And I would say, like, yeah,
Dion is involved. He's very active and as much as
he can influence and impact his kids career between the lines,
he's done that and it's no different than what every
parent would like to do.

Speaker 4 (59:27):
That's why we have a bunch of plumbers out there called.

Speaker 5 (59:30):
Johnson or Smith and Sons. Yeah, that's what you do.
I mean, that's what we do. And people don't like
nepotism until they don't like nepotism, I.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
Mean, yeah, unless it's helping you.

Speaker 5 (59:46):
Yeah, But like we all are tasked with trying to
help and elevate our kids to put them in.

Speaker 4 (59:52):
A position now.

Speaker 5 (59:53):
We want to equip them though with the work ethic
that they're competent and that they're able to do the
job and do the job exceptionally well. But I feel
like the job of the parent is to set the
kid up for success, and I think that's.

Speaker 4 (01:00:08):
What Diana is certainly trying to do with both of
his kids should do and shoot. It is funny, and
Shoulder had a great answer to that.

Speaker 5 (01:00:16):
I am down in Dallas right now to look at
East West Rim both practices call the game on Thursday,
and I'm disappointed that he's not playing, but I certainly understand,
and he came to do what is the important part
of the gig now for him, the interviews, to make
the people at the top of the board comfortable with
him as a potential franchise quarterback. And there's a lot

(01:00:39):
of conversation because he has become the polarizing figure. I've
already seen the.

Speaker 4 (01:00:45):
Conversation the father that's out there like, oh, I.

Speaker 5 (01:00:47):
Wouldn't even take him with a first round pick. He's
the second rounder. I don't even know if he's.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
That Tell me you needed the clicks like a police
police officer told to add some extra park tickets on
the Thursday.

Speaker 5 (01:00:58):
Yeah, let's calm down when it comes to that. Yeah,
there's some flaws in his game and there's not.

Speaker 4 (01:01:04):
A perfect prospect.

Speaker 5 (01:01:05):
But remember everyone wasn't convinced that this year's class was good.

Speaker 4 (01:01:10):
Do you remember the.

Speaker 5 (01:01:11):
Outrage over bow Knicks considered the first round picks A
checkdown guy shutting down char smart games. He's old, Michael Pennix.
I mean, he's beat up. He's heard all of the conversation.
We are now in what I call silly season, because

(01:01:32):
it's about to get silly some of the narratives that
we're going to hear about these things. There was a
world in which people were already beginning to talk themselves,
and they drew all their being maybe the best quarterback
prospect of the ones that could be there, drew all
of from Penn State who elected to come back.

Speaker 4 (01:01:49):
Conversations. Yeah, those are the conversations.

Speaker 5 (01:01:52):
That we're beginning to have where everyone is trying to
one up the other to get more eyeballs on their stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:01:58):
And so it's it's funny.

Speaker 5 (01:01:59):
I'm glad my god, DJ took a swing at his
first mock draft. I have you know, Mike, as we
were sitting here doing the radio show, I am tentatively
outlining my first mom here we go drop this week,
and so I'm beginning to have some of those like Okay,
here we go, Like let's make sure that we get
the names right in the first round, but where can

(01:02:21):
we maybe have some conversation starters.

Speaker 4 (01:02:24):
That's what we'll call them, yeah, you.

Speaker 5 (01:02:25):
Click bake, we will call them conversation starters, to be
able to have a conversation.

Speaker 4 (01:02:30):
Well, it's like we this player in those things.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
It's like we were talking about with the Hall of
Fame stuff, Right, do you start doing the blind resume stuff? Hey,
why is this guy in? And this guy can't be considered?
And then you put the N pullet back and you
put the name up. It's like, oh, yeah, because he
was a jerk, or because I didn't like his politics
or this or that. I'm obviously the most prescient example
is Kurt Shilling. But you go all the way down

(01:02:54):
with all the guys that were suspected ped guys, a
couple of guys who've already gotten in, They're like, wow,
is the exact opposite of what happened with Sammy Sosa
that year that he went away in the off season.
These guys went away for three months. And these guys
are forty five pounds lighter, are they? Okay? Oh yeah no,
it's just a great diet, just great diet.

Speaker 4 (01:03:17):
Yeah, disagreed, disagreed, Just a great diet.

Speaker 5 (01:03:21):
They have terrific nutrition at these places, and so I yeah,
I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
Hey, as a guy working through my PhD weight loss,
Jason and I have been doing it. I'm I'm creeping
past a weight I haven't seen in a long time.
I'm plunging over the goal line this week, Bucky lean
and mean for twenty twenty five.

Speaker 4 (01:03:41):
Look at you lean, mean, fighting machine.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
Now we're trying getting it down. Yeah, that way, then
I can I can start running. Maybe I get back
on a pitch somewhere and run around in these fifty
before my knee flies into the fourth row. Of course.

Speaker 5 (01:03:53):
Okay, A be easy with that, because I look, I
started the year like that. Yeah, I started the year
like you know what, man, I just missed running. I'm
gonna go out there and look. Harmony was great until
it wasn't. He was great for about two weeks and
then my kniece started having the perpetual ache.

Speaker 4 (01:04:09):
That I was like, and this is why I stopped running.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
Yep, and swells are bad.

Speaker 5 (01:04:15):
And this is why the achiness, the twenty four hour
achingess is why.

Speaker 4 (01:04:21):
Yeah, we're gonna have to go and do the old
man walk thing. And we're walking, you know what?

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
Effective? And you make a lot of friends in your
neighborhood although every once in a while they give me
garbages I'm walking my dog around because when they see
the big studio headphones out, they know I had no
desire to talk to anybody. Right If I've got the
earbuds in and they can't see, they'll approach if they,
you know, think that I'm not wearing all. I think
I'm running down the street. Hey how are you?

Speaker 5 (01:04:49):
Men?

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
Women are everybody that's out and just kind of hanging
around down there in Redondo? And then but the big
headphone is like, oh serious, look on the face. He's
got somewhere he's got to be. I'm yeah, sit in
traffic for nearly two hours to go to work. We've
had this conversation, all right, So Daniel Jeremiah right off
the jump abdual Carter from Penn State, and I love
this because that's the Brian Cranston doing the circuit and

(01:05:14):
answering the question from the guy that got funny and
said something about the dude's mom and then dropped the microphone.
But Edge Rusher Titans, Chad Brinker and I think for
a lot of us, and I'm sure you did too.
And Daniel even writes it in his blurb saying, hey,
we can't pass up on a generational guy. That led
me to Carter in my thinking when he said that.

(01:05:36):
But maybe I'm blinded by my big ten allegiance.

Speaker 4 (01:05:39):
I mean, I don't know, I mean generational.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
Well, we use that term very flippantly anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:05:45):
We do.

Speaker 5 (01:05:45):
And then we have to determine was he generational in
September when we talked about it, Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know if I heard about him generational, But
like now we're in micraft season. Yeah, generational. He's a
generational past rusher. He's a great athlete. He certainly is
Dad the double sticks that LeVar Arrington made famous, followed
by Michael Parsons and others, and so, yeah, look, he's

(01:06:08):
a talented player. He can come off the edge. He
has a speed, the athleticism in quickness. You at the
top of the board, what you're looking for is someone
that you can squint your eyes and see all pro
maybe Hall of Fame potential.

Speaker 4 (01:06:20):
It makes sense in that regard.

Speaker 5 (01:06:23):
But we at the top of the board, and we
know everyone loves a quarterback, and so are we going
to bypass an opportunity to get a quarterback?

Speaker 4 (01:06:31):
And run it back.

Speaker 5 (01:06:32):
With Will Levis, Mason Rudolph or Sam Darnod, we'll just
throw that name out there.

Speaker 4 (01:06:39):
Do we feel good about those things? If you're Brian
Callahan and his year.

Speaker 5 (01:06:42):
Two and we're seeing how quickly coaches are being dumped,
are we okay with a quarterback being one.

Speaker 4 (01:06:49):
Of those guys? Because if we are, then yeah, you
can make that move. But we aren't.

Speaker 5 (01:06:54):
And you bypass one of those quarterbacks and one of
those quarterbacks turns out to be a Jaden Daniels type,
do you survive? That?

Speaker 4 (01:07:02):
Just something to think about.

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
Well, considering you had a lot of people in December
wondering if Callahan was coming back, right, because it is
enamor status with Will Levice, who can throw the ball
the country mile. He will also throw it.

Speaker 5 (01:07:17):
Yeah, he can do splits evidently based on the commercial
he can do splits. And he's great with Mayo and
Mayo and and all that.

Speaker 4 (01:07:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
Yeah, like eccentricity, right, I mean we're radio hosts and
media guys.

Speaker 4 (01:07:30):
Yeah, I mean it's great. I love it.

Speaker 5 (01:07:33):
I love I love having that as a as a
story to tell when we talk about But Will.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
Right as you're looking at this and you're getting ready
for the shrine game. Buck, you'll be on the broadcast Thursday.
We'll make sure to tweet that out and promote as
you get ready, because then we'll get to chop it
up on what you saw next Sunday. But when we
look at the top of the board, are any of
those quarterbacks other than the fact that their quarterbacks and
we're desperate that you really say, is a guy like
if you had Chidor in the room, are Ward? What's

(01:08:00):
the first question you're asking him?

Speaker 5 (01:08:03):
I think for cam Ward is Kenny Hardest, Kenny Harness
to gun slinging.

Speaker 4 (01:08:09):
He is a talented player who has done it at
three different.

Speaker 5 (01:08:11):
Places incarnate Word first, Washington State, second, Miami third. The
good part of that is you've seen him progress and
you've seen him actually step up in competition with each
change in location. So you feel good about his ability
to adapt and adjust to the next level because he's
shown that the more you give him, the more he

(01:08:32):
can do. You can say the same about Shadr Sanders
shadur Gorn from Jackson State HBCU two year starter goes
to Colorado two year Starter turned around both programs. We
can't dispute that as a quarterback, we can talk about
he's non athletic and some of the things that you
hear about him were the things that hung around c. J.

(01:08:53):
Stroud in terms of the athleticism and those things hangs
onto the ball a long time. There're being comparisons loosely
made to Geno Smith in terms of Geno Smith the Pro.

Speaker 4 (01:09:02):
Bowl caliber talent. Here's what I say. He's played in
a bunch of big time games and.

Speaker 5 (01:09:07):
He has had a lot of spotlight on him. And
when we talk about the franchise quarterback and the amount
of attention that comes with that, he has handled himself
pretty well in the scorching eye of the storm that
comes with being the son of Deion Sanders and all
the stuff that they've done. So I think both guys
are NFL starters. Both guys have the ability to be

(01:09:29):
winning quarterbacks. I can say that they're transformational in terms
of how they're going to change the game and those things.
But I think both guys can be winning quarterbacks. And
if you have an opportunity to get a winning quarterback,
you jump at the notion. To me, people will then say,
like I have Bolnicks graded above them. I think you
can put them in bow Knicks all in the same category.

(01:09:50):
When I look at bow Knicks and what he did
his first year in the league, playoff appearance, played well,
challenged Jayden Daniels as Offensive Rookie of.

Speaker 4 (01:09:58):
The Year based on how he led the Broncos.

Speaker 5 (01:10:01):
I think all of us would take that, which is
why I'm hile cam Ward and Shuter.

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
Sanders impressive all around. We'll keep an eye out for
Bucky and his first round mock at the end of
the week and all of his coverage at Bucky Brooks
at Big Play Football, what he's got going on with
the Shrine game as he calls that on Thursday. I
know the practices are going and all the interviews, all
the fun stuff, the medicals and all of that that
you can get to. And I applied for my virtual

(01:10:25):
media access so I could sit around in my T
shirt and shorts instead of getting out. Well, man, look man,
it's expensive flying around at this point. I got kids
to get around. But we got all of that, We've
got prop bets, we've got our examination of the championship
game ahead. Last point, off of what we talked about
house money and everything, ask Bobby slow cow House money.

Speaker 5 (01:10:47):
Goes see, Hey, I'm glad, I'm glad you brought that up, right.
Bobby Slogan was the hottest guy right and everyone was like, hey, man,
make sure you get the right job. You don't take
the head job. Make sure it's to write one harmon.
We've said this. When someone offers you an opportunity to

(01:11:08):
run a team. Yeah, we can talk about fits and
gotta have this an alignment or whatever, but they're only
thirty two of them, and you got to get it
when you're hot, and so we can debate about, hey,
is it a perfect storm, and you can act like
your ice and top gun and you're waiting for the
perfect shot. But sometimes you got to operate light Maverick.
Sometimes you just got to shoot and figure it out.

(01:11:29):
And unfortunately for Bobby Slowick, he didn't do it. He
didn't get a gig, and so now he almost has
to start back at the bottom of the ladder to
climb back up to be a viable head coaching candidate,
which is nothing that any of us saw heading into
the season.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
And escalated quickly. Bad offensive line, a lot of injuries.
It doesn't matter you win the division. They expected more
just how fickle a business it all is. At Bucky
Brooks is where you find and find me over at
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(01:12:06):
because I think he's a man of great integrity and
knowledge at Isaac Lolandkron on Twitter.

Speaker 9 (01:12:12):
Well, well that's gonna be uh. I appreciate that very much.
But with the content of this particular report, that's all
going to be destroyed within the next two minutes. Thanks
to you out there, the sports fans of America, particularly
in cities involved in the conference championship games today that
coming up just moments from now. But first we start

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with Saturday night's NBA Action break up. The Los Angeles Lakers.
They won at Golden State. What eighteen to want to
wait on Saturday night to improve to a season best
seven games above five hundred and twenty five. At eighteen,
they're on a three game winning street. They've won five
of six. The Houston Rockets won in Cleveland, won thirty
five to one thirty one. The Rockets a Men Thompson
with a triple double, the Knicks Josh Harden with a

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triple double, and they're one forty three to one twenty
triumph over the Sacramento Kings. Earlier Saturday, Dallas forward maxi
but broke his right foot in a loss to the
Boston Celtics. Conference Championship Sunday kicks off at three pm
Eastern with the NFC Championship Game as the Philadelphia Eagles
host the Washington Commanders. Now last night in Philadelphia, a

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large group of Commanders fans held a get together at
the hard Rock Cafe in downtown Philly, leading one of
them to post this clip of the get together with
the caption quote taking over Philly.

Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
Well.

Speaker 9 (01:13:35):
Eagles fans were not amused at Donut Dan responding quote
the hard Rock Cafe was Applebee's full or something. Jalen
Carter muse posting tell me you ain't been to Philly
without telling me you ain't been to Philly. And finally
Julyissa posting hard Rock Cafe is a place where teenagers

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go for their birthday dinner. Is lmfao anyway? The encore
of that at six point thirty eastern, the Kansas City
Chiefs hosting the Buffalo Bills in the AFC Championship Game,
and from the sublime to the ridiculous in social media
conspiracy theory news. As many of you out there know,
Buffalo Bills fans are known from, among other things, leaping

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into folding tables. Well, there is a rumor circulating on
social media right now that Kansas City area retailers are
refusing to sell folding tables to anyone without a Missouri
driver's license. The rumor apparently originated in a Bills fans
Facebook group, but sadly, there is no evidence out there.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
That this rumor is true. Back to you guys at
Isaac Lowancrown, and I'll say this, I support small businesses.
I love small business. If you're refusing them from going
and busting a table based on the team that they
cheer for, you're a dope. Just you jack up the
prices what you do, and you deserve to suffer some consequences,

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because I mean, that's just printing money here. I ordered
extra eight foot tables, let's go. I even saw it
a little bit into him, like I'm a Hollywood producer,
so it can go through like you know, you'd break
a guitar over a guy's head, like you're Jeff Jarrett.
How do you like that? He's Isaac, that's Bucky. I'm Mike.
As we continue here Fox Sports Radio, Fox Football Sunday,

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we'll talk all things championship games as we close up
this hour. That's Sex on Fox. Hey, welcome back in
It's Fox Football Sunday, Fox Sports Radio. Coming up in
ten minutes, we got countdown to Kickoff presented by Bett MGM,
Bill and Jeff and Brian. Getting you ready for a
couple of championship games, the ends and the outs, the parlays,
the live betting lines, and where maybe you lean in

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do some of the historical between these squads, cause it's
setting up to be a fun day. You got the
upstart Washington commanders. Nick sirianni Is he's still on a
hot seat, Jalen Hurts, how big is that brace gonna be?
And on the other side, now everybody hates the chiefs Bucky.
Now they're talking about not only sky Judge kind of thing.

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But now we're gonna maybe expand reviews some more chefter reporting.
Yesterday the replay assists is looking like it's going to
expand this offseason to where you can get the red
button and zap down to the officials. That'll start including
quarterback slides, those out of bounds plays and all that
other fun stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:16:29):
Wow, that's I mean, that's big that it takes some
of the conspiracy theorists. That's just satisfy them, you know,
to be able to add another layer to it.

Speaker 4 (01:16:39):
I wonder how many.

Speaker 5 (01:16:40):
Well, if it's coming straight down from that, that's just
an extension of what they're already doing, so it shouldn't
change anything.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
No, that's it right in theory. It's just a more
transparency over what you're already supposed to be doing. Right,
because they've expanded it a couple of times and putting
in more language. I don't know if it's like a
player contract where we just want everything enumerated. At this
point of what they might look at. To me, it
just sho just blinking say common sense as two controversies

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and making sure we get it right, particularly with the
high definition televisions and giant seventy two inch ninety six
inch screens. Everybody's watching this stuff on with innumerable replays.
Got to get it right. It's a lot of money
being transacted, both in the betting markets and just in
general people going to games and the television revenue, et cetera.

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Schefter then pointed this out from just a little less
than a half hour ago during the Chiefs eight game
win streak in the playoffs, roughing the passer opponents six
Chiefs zero, unnecessary roughness opponents four Chiefs one. Now, there
was a stat during the National title game that just
floored me that I couldn't believe it was right when

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they said that there had only been one holding penalty
called against the Ohio State defense all year, like as
their pass rushers are coming in like no opponent, like,
there was literally one call of holding as they tried
to suppress the pass rush that was coming from Ryan
Day and his squad. So that's kind of interesting. But

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we love conspiracy theories, and certainly there'll be plenty of them.
I think we'll see the twitter whale during the evening game.
You think all that's gonna take is one play, Get
those memes ready for those that want to hate Taylor Swift.
You'll have that. Maybe Caitlyn Clark shows up again, because
now she's getting a low back.

Speaker 5 (01:18:32):
You are talking about absolutely blowing up the Twitter verse
if you get Caitlyn Clark and let's get them side
by side into booths like we saw the other day.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
They just keep playing the bad Blood video. It's it.
It's one of the greatest music videos ever made. It's
got everybody, Selanna Gomez, Steinfeld, Taylor Swift. So why do
I sound like Patrick Warburton in my own head? But
as we go through we talked about the games, is
who's the guy that you're looking for a breakthrough surprise
performance to tip the scales for either of these for

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any of these squads.

Speaker 1 (01:19:08):
I think Xavier.

Speaker 5 (01:19:09):
Worthy has to be a big part of the thing
for the Kancity Chiefs. But the guy who's a surprised
how about DeAndre Hopkins maybe showing up and kind of
being what they want him to be.

Speaker 2 (01:19:18):
Zero catches last week first.

Speaker 5 (01:19:20):
Zero catches non factor, but remember the experience matters, and
then let's go to the commanders.

Speaker 4 (01:19:25):
Somebody else has to do it. So how about Dianmi.

Speaker 5 (01:19:27):
Brown catching some big passes to alleviate some own oppression
on Terry mcvaran.

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
Let's see if we can get another John Cena. You
can't see me handing his face and a dime from
Jaden Daniels, He's Bucky Brooks. Following at Bucky Brooks, I'm
over at Swollen Dome count down to kick off his
next Enjoy the games,