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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 1 (00:50):
Dude, Martin, what a week it is? Can we just
like cause it was just a week ago when the
craziest trade I think in our NB a time happened
with Luca, and again.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
It's one of the craziest trades in NBA history.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yeah, we're gonna like do a deep dive into that
later in the show, but like it's still like I
literally just they're showing Luca walking down the tunnel on
TV right now. He's obviously not playing today Lakers pacers,
and you just mentioned Lebron's also out today. But it's
just like it didn't feel real until I saw him,
like in Laker's gear sitting on the sidelines really kind
(01:29):
of standing up after Lebron hit those three threes in
a row and it like ended the one from the
logo shot. It was like, Oh, he's here, Oh he's here,
and all like the videos the Lakers are putting out
on social of him at practice, like we haven't seen
him play since Christmas. He's had a cap injury, so
it's like, who.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
See.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
I I appreciate this because you know, if you guys
an'll know Alice Corey Burne, I mean southern California.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
LX born and raised in lag In, La Like I am,
like I bleed.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
For La quit the Central California.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Right, Yeah, so that's why you could come in here
and be like your shock was you got Luca.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
The rest of the.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
World, nobody else outside of the funerals, Yeah, outside of this,
like one hundred mile radius from where we're sitting right
now is wondering what in the hell are the Mavericks doing? Like,
congratulations to Rob Poligam for picking up the phone.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
What did we just do?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Like the Lakers came and stole your girl once again?
Speaker 1 (02:29):
They always they always find a way, Like we're gonna
we'll do a deep dive into like all the conspiracy
theories and theories later on the show. But like also, yeah,
hey you guys super Bowl tomorrow, Like we'll be breaking
down Eagles Chiefs today. We're gonna play the what if game,
Like what if the Chiefs three pete? What if Saquon
Barkley has his mic drop? Like super Bowl win?
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Were you out in New Orleans at all this week?
Speaker 4 (02:53):
No?
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Okay, first time I haven't either, headwork out here in LA.
But like Man Orleans showed up.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Honest.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
People don't understand in New Orleans people compared to Vegas.
But the thing is exactly.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Like I was there The last time I was in
New Orleans was the last this is gonna date me
the BCS Championship. I was kidding, yeah yeah, So like
when it was still like the college Championship was the
BCF Championship And it happened in New Orleans at the
super Dome and it was like on Bourbon and they're like,
this is the closest it gets to Marti Gras. But
we're in like kind of the Marti Gras window right now.
So it's like not only Super Bowl, not only Marti Gras.
(03:32):
I mean, it's it's a wild time out there and
people showed up, which I love to see. Love a
good party.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
The difference between Vegas and New Orleans is simple.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yeah, the fun in Vegas only tours participated the fun.
In New Orleans people who live there and tours will
also be there. Let you go to other tourist destinations,
Like unless you live in Venice, you're not going to
go out in Venice all the time, right, unless you're
down there, Right, if you're not going to go to
Times Square if you live in New York, but if
you live in New Orleans, you.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Go to the French Quarter.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Do you want to know a fun fact, born and
raised in La, I did not like hike the Hollywood
Sign until it was actually Jeff Carter of the King's making.
Carter like reach out. She's like, hey, do you want
to go hike the Hollywood Sign. I was like, I've
actually never done that.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
He's an La native, but like, yeah, I get.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Tattooed on your back and I'm just kidding no, but
you they don't have that.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
I don't have.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Anything ever, Like you were to quit the cent of
California and you still never hiked the Hollywood Sever. I
bet you know, find somebody New Worlds ever been in
the French Quarter. I'll tell you what they are?
Speaker 4 (04:31):
A liar.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Yeah, I'm so excited for tomorrow. You guys.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
We have a great show for you.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Today. We're gonna have NBA insider Mark Medina joining us
in about thirty minutes to break down all the crazy
NBA stuff. He was there for the Luca presser. He's
been around everything. Then we have my co host NFL
and Fox writer Carmen Vitally joining us live from New Orleans.
In hour two, we got executive producer Patrick Us with
US Today Technical producer Chris Prefett Martin work in double
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duty with me, so I always appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
But let's get to the big game tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
You guys, it's a Super Bowl rematch from two years
ago now in New Orleans. And if you're not a
chief sir Eagles fan, there is so much to root
for tomorrow because we're gonna see greatness no matter what. Right,
We're either gonna see the most iconic Mike Drops season
for Saquon Barkley if he finishes it with a Super Bowl,
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or we're going to see NFL history with the Chiefs
and Patrick Mahomes completing.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
The first ever three p in the Super Bowl era.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
And I'm someone who roots for greatness, So we're gonna
get greatness no matter what, and we're gonna you know,
it's it. So it's kind of a.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Win win if you don't have a dog in the fight,
sure in my.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Eyes, if you do have a no.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
No, there is only one.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
It's like you either need sweet sweet revenge if you're
an Eagles fan or And it's hard because I feel
like if you're not a Chiefs fan, there's not that
many people rooting for the Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
I but you know, I don't this whole people need
to get over this.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
When you're witnessing and living through greatness, appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Appreciate it. Like we are so.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Lucky to have lived through the Tom Brady era, like
the greatest of all time right now. I mean, if
Patrick keeps us up, like sure, he's getting pretty close
to Brady in that the Lebron like also one of
the greatest basketball side of things.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I was too young for the Jordan era.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
But like even Kobe and Shack, like when you're when
you're in these moments of greatness in sports, and we're
getting that with Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs right now.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Dude, soak it up, soak it in.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
And also here's the other thing, this is what I
see on the horizon, what win or lose for Kansas City. Yeah,
we did this for because I was in high school
when Lebron like debuted like that.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Why remember the draft, It was like and I was
like a Bron Bron fan even though he wasn't a Laker.
And then when he came to the Lakers, I was
live on Undisputed and it was just like another mic
drop moment of like.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
And so we have these moments where we have these
generational superstars and instead of sitting there and being like, wow,
can you guys believe how good Patrick Mahomes is, He
sure is really really good.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
This is crazy, I.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Know, right, because it's not very copelling television. Well, what
does Patrick Mahomes have to do to pass Tom Brady? Nothing,
let's just not Yeah, the Coary game stop because the
reality is did you you said it a minute ago.
There's no way you can lose here because watching history
is awesome regardless. And here's the other thing. If you're
a Patrick, if you're not a Chiefs fan, here's the reality.
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Patrick Mahomes is beating your team. Yes, right, But if
you're in the AFC, you've been contender. Patrick Mahomes has.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Beaten Tom Brady or Joe Burrow, like the only two,
the only two that have gotten passed up.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Well, if you're Tom Brady, you were doing you were
walking up to the Barbstreet'll.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Nervous right now because he's gonna have this.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
The only thing that Brady doesn't have that Mahomes would
have would be a three piece.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
You'd rather have the guy that has been just pounding
your team into submission. Also be a guy who's pounding
the rest of the league into submission.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Right, Yeah, I don't want It's not that bad because
it's like it's the greatest.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
And then for me personally at ye as a guy
who I grew up in Louisiana, football fan, born and bred,
born in New Orleans.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Like, I appreciate.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
This makes it running the football more sense.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Right, It makes makes.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Me appreciate running the football because you appreciate running backs,
appreciate going out and getting hard, tough yards. And everybody
wants to pay quarterbacks forty million dollars, fifty million dollars.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Sixty million dollars.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
If Saquon Barkley wins the Super Bowl, I can't lose.
You can't load my demo. Real, there's a take. New
York Giants don't want to pay Saquon Barkley. Have you
seen their offense and look at them now.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Exactly what it would literally be the most mic drop season.
So okay, let's start with our expectations for Sunday, right,
because I think there's two scenarios here that can happen.
It's either going to be a shootout, like a back
and forth offensive explosion which I'm rooting for because that's
what I love in every sport. TV is probably rooting
for that too, Or we're gonna get a defensive chess
match because these are both top five defenses. Now we
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both know what both offensives have, right, that's the flashy
what everyone's talking about.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Patrick will start with the Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey most playoff touchdowns for a
quarterback pass catching duo in playoff history. Mahomes is a
three times Super Bowl MVP. Knows how to win. Mahomes
has more playoff wins than twelve other NFL franchises. Andy
Reid saves his best plays for the biggest games and
the biggest moments in those games, which is probably going
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to be the last big play of the game, which
is why they've won so many one score games. And
the Chiefs have super Bowl experience. Mahomes has been to
a super Bowl five times in six like in six seasons.
But these like these two teams, as we've sat off
the top, they faced each other two years ago in
the Super Bowl, and each team has a good amount
of starters back right, fifteen starters who played in that game.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Eagles have eleven starters who played in that game.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
So now let's talk about Eagles offense and Saquon Barkley, right,
because not only not only do we want to see
Saquon absolutely Mike drop the like one of the greatest
single seasons we've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Jalen Hurts is extremely motivated.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Like I don't like, I don't know if you remember
the photo of him walking off the field in Arizona,
just the absolute face of disappointment as he's color covered
in the Chiefs colored confetti and he actually had that
as his lock screen for years. He didn't share that,
but it was like caught by like a media paparazzi
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vibe of like, oh look it's him sad walking off
the field after a loss. And he's talked about it
a lot this week that he loves that he has
doubters and he said it's a great driving force. It
lit a flame, lit a fire in me. And to
have this opportunity again is exactly what you work for.
Like everything's there, the motivation is there. Then you have
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the birthday, boy, you guys, Saquon Barkley is playing in
his first Super Bowl on his twenty eighth birthday. So
he's not only playing with again all the motivation in
the world after career season on new team with this
exact moment being the goal as to why he signed
with the Eagles. But we've seen him rise already to
every single occasion this.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Season, I mean and to and if there was anybody
who was gonna knit a pick here, it would be, oh,
the rushing record.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Well, there were several times in which he was like,
you know what.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Let the young guys eat the game soup out of games.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
So it's like, while I am not I am not.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
A participation trophy type of guy, I would still say that's.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Really like to be a what one hundred and thirteen
or seventeen. He was shot and they.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Sat out the last game, and they said, if if
they don't make it to a super Bowl, that would
have been a waste. But hindsight everything's always you know
better when you look back. They made the right choice
because this is the moment that they were waiting for
to be here in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
I mean, we all kind of knew it was going
to be.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
The Chiefs like to have revenge against the current dynasty
in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
And you know, one thing too, you're talking about Jalen
Hurts like people, you know, these things, they happen in
the way that we do sports media, Like phrases get attached, right,
And like one of the things they talk about the
way that that Super Bowl went is Jalen Hurts played
really well in a losing effort, right, And I don't
fundamentally disagree with the premise, but in a game in
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which they lost by one score, he had a fumble
in which the Kansas City scored the touchdown.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Yeah, So like, don't do that, you might win? Yeah, right.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
So, Like as much as we look at Jalen Hurts
as playing really well in that game, from what I
understand of the man when I hear him talk, I
feel like that is something that he thinks about a lot.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Lock screen on his phone is him walking off the
field covered in Chiefs confetti after losing.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Right, But not not even just even that specific play,
like that moment, Like I would imagine that he carries
as much as the self blame by blaming himself for
that lost, just as much as James Bradbury for the
Holden call.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Because that's just who he is exactly.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
So I think you talk about coming in with motivated.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yeah right, okay, so let's play the what if game?
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Okay, if the Chiefs three pete, where would Patrick Mahomes
fall among all time quarterbacks? Is he now right up
there in the Tom Brady conversation.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
I'll be honest, it's been workshopping this, thinking about it, might.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Get ahead of it. Got three peats and putting one.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
I hot take right there, think about it right now,
if Patrick Mahomes had a catastrophic career ending injury, right.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
That's not that I'm just saying, all right, maybe you know,
all right, let's put it. Let's change you.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Patrick Hohlmes retires and he decides he wants to sell
real estate right in the Dallas Meadrow Flex area.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
It'd be a strange choice.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
He wins the.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Super Bowl, We listen and we don't judge.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
He rides off into the sunset. Actually, what was it?
Speaker 3 (14:16):
The conversation would be, there's never been a more dominant
quarterback in his career over the time period that he played.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Oh, let's like if you look at the first seven seasons,
his first seven seasons and Tom Brady's as a full
time starter, and this is before this is like not
counting obviously this Super Bowl and whatever happens tomorrow. But
Patrick Mahomes is neck and neck with the goat Tom Brady.
Super Bowl wins, Brady has three. Mahomes has three regular
season MVPs, Brady one, Mahomes two, super Bowl MVPs Brady
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to Mahomes three. So if he wins tomorrow and if
they win, he will win Super Bowl MVP. He's right
up there is he is like neck and neck, maybe
just number two, right below Brady, just because of the
amount of rings, Like Brady has more rings than any
single franchise, Like that's that's a big deal.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
But Brady was thirty five when in his last like
thirty four.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
There was a ten year gap.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
There was a there was a ten year gap between
his super bowls.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
And so that's why I say people, people, if in
fact that happened, which it won't, people would make the argument.
So at this point, let's say he slows down a bit.
Let's say let's say Pat slows down. Oh, he only
goes to two of the next four Super Bowls, right,
these are did it's to six?
Speaker 1 (15:27):
It's still yeah, it still is doesn't even make sense. No,
he is He's a different kind of quarterback than Tom Brady.
Like if you meshed because again, he played baseball growing up.
If you took a shortstop and a quarterback and meshed
them together, and then we're like, oh my god, you're
so good. You can call your own plays whenever you
want to. But then you also have one of the
greatest head coaches of all time, and you guys together
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are just absolute magic. Like it's just he's on a
different playing field. He's on a different like running the throws,
he can make everything. Like Brady was great, but he
wasn't post athletic quarterback like Patrick Mahomes is insane like
he is. He is an outlier and.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
He's he's he's not somebody I don't like when he's
on the field. He's not the most athletic guy on
the field. Does need to be, but it's the timing
and that's one of the things.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Like this is a wild I just thought about it
with Riley Leonard from played to Notre Dame. He's not like,
he's not like fast, but he's just effective, right, he
was effective at running. Now Patrick Mahomes, Riley Leonard, the
only thing to have in common is they both play quarterback.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
That's where it starts to stop shot. Don't get me wrong, but.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
When you think about Mahomes, like, he's not running, are
the better comparison?
Speaker 4 (16:35):
Should you? S? C. J. Stroud.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
He's not running in the regular season, he's not even
running like maybe big games.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
He even talks about it. I don't want to. But
in the playoffs he does.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
He had that one hit against San Francisco where he
blew up the safety going across the end.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Noustafa blew him up going into the end zone. But
that's it. You watch him against Buffalo run for first down.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
You watch, I guarantee you tomorrow he's gonna run for
some play that's bottled up and all of a sudden
he's gonna wiggle and make somebody miss and you're gonna
look at him. He's like, why is this guy wig?
He's just wandering down the field.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
He's just gonna find a way. Nobody's gonna hit him,
no one's gonna get him. I'm so excited. I am
so excited. I'm not a person who likes Super Bowl parties.
I want to be on my if I'm not at
the game, like working watching, I want to be at
home on my couch TV at full blast. Do not
talk to me, let me hear and watch everything that's
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going on with like the most amazing food, snacks and drinks.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
See, I'm a party guy, but it had to be
the right type of people invited to the party because
everybody at the party has to know. This is a
football game first.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
That's what yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Yeah, Like, well I'm gonna have people over, but like,
these are also sports people that understand. Don't talk to me.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
How's work going?
Speaker 1 (17:45):
No work? We're watching it right now. This is what
we do, and I love you. I love it all right.
We're gonn take a quick break here, but when we
come back, NFL hand it out their hardware and announce
the new Hall of Fame class.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Did they get it right?
Speaker 1 (17:57):
That's next?
Speaker 2 (17:57):
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Speaker 1 (18:10):
Welcome back to Fox Football Saturday. I'm Alex Curry here
with Martin Wise and for Karmen. Today we are broadcasting
live from the Tyrotok Com Studios in Los Angeles, and
it is a beautiful day. Thank you for spending your
Saturday afternoon with us. Who super Bowl tomorrow and Thursday
was NFL Honors where they handed out the hardware, announced
the Hall of Fame class and you know what, like,
(18:34):
I think.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
They got it right.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
I don't have any hard notes here, Like I will say,
I was shocked, happy, pleasantly shocked at surprise that Josh
Allen won MVP. That's what I was rooting for and
what I had picked. It was obviously between Josh Allen
and Lamar Jackson, and it was very close. Alan got
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twenty seven first place votes, Jackson got twenty three first
place votes, and most people assumed it was going to
be Lamar Jackson because he was first team All Pro
quarterback And it's the same people who vote for MVP,
and Allen became just the third player ever to win
MVP after not making the first team All Pro.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
But Martin, can we admit that MVP is just a
quarterback award?
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Like this just I feel like I don't like it
solidified it because yeah, Saquon Barkley one offensive Player of
the Year, but he was just one of nine players
so you are like the ninth player in the history
of the game to rush two thousand yards in a
season and not win MVP. Like that's that just solidified
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that the MVP is a quarterback award.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Yeah, I just hate it.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
You wanted take one?
Speaker 4 (19:51):
I hate it. I want it.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
I did, actually after all when the dust all settled, Yeah,
I really felt that it should.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Have been SI one one.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Yeah, totality of the season and the impact that he
had on that team, a team that I mean, they
ended that year on like an eight game losing street.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
I picked them to go back to the super Bowl
last year, and I was.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
So when completely down down the path two seasons and
when you look at them, they are fundamentally the same
plus rookies.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
The only difference is Kuon Barkley.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
And I'm not trying to diminish any of the rookie
acquisitions or anything of that nature, but no, it's the
same plus rookies and new coordinators. The Saquon Barkley was
the driving force behind that team all year. Yes, I mean,
and so like it's not a knock between Josh Allen
or Lamar Jackson, but.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
To me, that's award.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
Now.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
He was in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
This is and the way that this all broke down,
I don't what really bugs me. I don't care who
you think the second m VP is or third or
fourth or fifth. It's it's not relevant it right, it's
you are, like it matters for context.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
It's just funny that they vote who is like first, second, third, fourth? Right,
But that was what I didn't realize. That's like I
guess I knew that, but I forgot that, Like that's
how it went. It's just like, this is my MVP.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
It should not be weighed in now.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
The amount of second place votes should not be considered.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Now, like who cares, No, it wasn't first, It wasn't first.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
He went first.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
It's not you know, we're going to give a gold, silver,
and bronze for MVP.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
What do we do?
Speaker 4 (21:29):
What are we doing?
Speaker 1 (21:29):
It's just yeah, it's just like that's what it is.
Like it's it's solidified that MVP is a quarterback award.
I feel like there needs to be a separate quarterback
award and then just have MVP if we want it
to be more fair.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
But like I think between the two they got it right.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Like if we're going like the quarterback the top two quarterbacks,
like because Josh Allen would not The Bills would not
be where they were this season without Josh Allen, sure
like that. So that makes sense if we're going between
Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson for that case.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
But I just you saw about the Bills wouldn't be
where they were. Yeah, well there's no doubt in my
mind the Eagles would not be.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Well, that's why MVP's a quarterback award. It solidified it,
That's what it is.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
And if we're talking about, like, you know, teams where
they were, like, to me, the Eagles were. The Eagles
were more as crazy as it sounds, the Eagles were
more Saquon dependent to me than the Bills were Josh
Allen dependent.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Josh Allen had a great year.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Yeah, right, But then the biggest difference between this year
with Josh Allen in past he cut down on turnovers
right hugely.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
I mean that was his biggest knock and he completely
turned it around this year.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
And I'm and I take credit for I used to
bang him for turning the ball over so much, but
we really is the difference between this year and last
year five or six interceptions between the guy who was
not the MVP to now the MVP.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
No, no, I see, I don't think it's that. I
think it's literally he put the Bills on their back
and the only reason they got as far as they
did is because of Josh Allen, which I get, like,
if you put a team on your back, as Saquon
did as well with the Eagles, that's that's the that's
the base for MVP.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
This is when I look at some of the other
maybe and maybe it's just I'm looking at it as
not jaded, but I'll look at the other quarterbacks in
the NFL. I think if you put Lamar Jackson on Buffalo,
they would have had a great year. Yeah, I think
if you put Josh Allen ball.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
But it had like if you take out I mean,
it's hard to take out Lamar because he is such
a polarizing player, but they also had like a Derrick Henry,
which is and.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
I'm not not I'm all for it, I'm all for it,
But when you just replace those two swapped those two,
I don't see like, oh, Josh Pallen had no weapons. Well,
Lamar Jackson, you know he before Derrick Henry will name
the weapons. Right, the difference to me in the NFC
was Saquon Barkley and the entire conference was saqua Barkley.
And the difference in the AFC was Patrick Mahomes. And
(23:51):
that's not reflected in the mvpis for Mahomes. But that's
the difference that was its. It is locked up the conference.
It's just out of the now. I'm not a quarterback.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
MVP is a quarterback award and that was solidified at
the NFL Honors this year. All right, market Martin, workin
double duty, tell us what's trending.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Dallas Mavericks have a sixty nine to sixty lead over
the Houston Rockets. Got out to a big early start
with Anthony Davis.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
He had I think nineteen first half points. She's got
twenty four. Now he's angry, He's already got a double double.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
He's angry playing she's got a double doubling in the
first time.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Was that quick?
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Matt, thirty more minutes to play or twenty more minutes
to play in the game?
Speaker 1 (24:31):
I love Crady.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
In twenty four minutes, Anthony Davis has twenty four points,
thirteen rebounds, six assists, reblocks. Yes, that is, that's pretty
efficient and four free throws made, two three pointers made,
and on the rocket side of things, Yelling Green leading
them with sixteen points, six for twelve from the floor.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Now the ESPN moves having on Earth, I don't know
how much having on Earth they moved.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
It moved a lot to get this Lakers game on
TV today, thinking that Luca Donsons and Lebron James are
going to play. It was rumored, well the rumors they
did not end up coming true. But right now, so
if you turn to TVDESPN, you can see a thirty
two to twelve game between the Los Angeles Lakers, who
have been playing inspired basketball since the trade, the Indiana
(25:18):
Pacers with the twelve points right there three minutes left
in the first quarter. Austin Reeves was thirteen of the
thirty two. Obi Toppins the only Pacer on the court
who has scored. He's got three. In college basketball, Kansas
lost to Kansas State eighty one to seventy three. Earlier day, Kansas,
the sixteenth thor eighteen in the nation, falls to seven
and five and Big twelve play Michigan outlast Indiana seventy
(25:41):
to sixty seven games active right now at the half.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Missouri has aw I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Texas A and M has a thirty eight to twenty
nine lead over Missouri, and in a battle of two
top ten teams, the Auburn Tigers.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Have a I'm sorry. Florida has a twenty three to
twenty two lead over the Auburn Tigers. Florida the sixth
ran team in the nation.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
And finally, Houston with a twenty four to seventeen lead
over Colorado with seven minutes left in the first half.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Back to us, Back to steer. Listening to Fox Football Saturday.
I'm Alex Curry here with Martin Wise. We are broadcasting
live from the tarrek dot Com studios in Los Angeles.
Thank you for spending your Saturday afternoon with us. It
is time for our first guest. He's been busy this week.
NBA insider Mark Medina, thanks for joining the.
Speaker 7 (26:23):
Show, Alex, Thanks for having me. Yeah, it's been quite
a busy week this week. Not a lot of sleep,
but still a lot of Energy's all good.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
We love that now.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
This week's trade deadline I believe will go down in
history and the trade obviously that rocked the NBA and
the sports World a week ago was Luca to the
Lakers ad to the MAVs. What was your initial reaction
to the move and do you think this was the
most surprising thing move you've ever seen?
Speaker 7 (26:50):
Yeah? My initial reaction was the thought of many that man,
the social media accounts must have gotten hacked. Yeah, bake trade.
But then after making call and seeing more tweets and
the confirmations for myself, it really settled in that this
was for real. Now. The second question that he had
is this the most impactful crazy trade I've ever seen? No,
(27:13):
only because I also was there when the Lakers trying
to get Chris Paul in the deal and then the
former commission to take it Stern put a stop to that.
That was unprecedented. But I would say outside of that, yeah,
this is the biggest trade that I've ever witnessed been
a part of.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Now, Mark Martin wise here filling in for Carmen, when
we see this trade, I mean, Alex.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
Started with can you believe the Lakers got to look
at that?
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (27:39):
And we're sitting here now watching the Anthony Davies' debut
for the Dallas Mavericks. But I think everyone around Dallas
is like, what in the hell just happened?
Speaker 4 (27:47):
How does something like this happen?
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Is this because there's conspiracy theories all over the place,
But is this as easy as they didn't think that
Luca was going to be able to if he's not
doing the things he's doing they want him to do. Now,
three hundred and fifty plus million is not going to
incentivize him to do the things they wanted to do.
Speaker 7 (28:06):
Yeah, there's a few letters to it. I think one,
you know, they thought, even at twenty five years old,
that there's concerns about how the rest of his career
is going to play out because he's not known as
being care of his body the best. I think. Secondly,
even though Luca Dogis is a generational talent, they got
the finals last season, they're eighth in the West. Their
feeling is they got to be a defensive oriented team.
(28:28):
I still don't think it justified that. Because Luca is
the one that carried them to the finals, he can
continue to get better. He's only twenty five years old,
and they can continue to round out the roster. But
even though I think the Lakers won this trade, I
think there is a very strong possibility and the short term,
Dallas benefits from the trade a lot quicker because of
(28:49):
what we saw with Anthony Davis today, the fact that
he is a defensive Player of the Year candidate. They
have a lot better shooters on the MAVs than they
do with the Lakers, and the chemistry with re Irving
is great. When you look at the Lakers, I don't
think there's going to be any issues with chemistry with
Luca and Lebron because their generational talents. They have a
lot of respect. But even though they got Mark Williams
(29:10):
at the center, there's still a lot of front courts
up there missing without Anthony Davis and most importantly, a
lot of defensive identity. So this is a longer term play,
but I think with that the Lakers are going to
benefit the most because it's Luca dot joke.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Yeah, I mean, the whole narrative around like his conditioning
is so fishy to me. But personally, yeah, nice excuse, guys,
but I personally think now being around Lebron, who's obviously
like takes insane care of his body and his training
(29:44):
routine is the best thing for Luca, Like he might
go through the Lebron like training camp do you expect
Luca to be even more motivated now to change the
perspective perception of him?
Speaker 7 (29:56):
In La very very good point in one hundred percent,
I Luca is the introductory press conference, what do you
make of all the criticisms about his condition? And he
said exactly what you said, that it's a motive, it's
a source of motivation. I think it was also telling
that Rob Polinka, the Lakers general manager, interjected and said,
you know, when you are trying to be a great player,
(30:17):
there's always ways to make sacrifices.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
I e.
Speaker 7 (30:22):
This is another challenge for him to overcome to become
an even better player. He also made a point to
say that the Lakers medical staff are going to work
in conjunction with some of the trainers that Luca Dodgers
has worked with, and that is a sharp contrast with
what was going on with Dallas. So I think with
Scary Alex and Martin is that we've already seen Luca
(30:44):
be a generational player, top five player with a chip
on his shoulder, and with Lebron James, he's just scratching
the surface here. So look, I'm going to just throw
this out there. I don't think it's hot taking. I
think I'm just calling it like it is. He's going
to win multiple titles again. To serve you retired done.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
One hundred, I would agree with you on both of
those fronts. If I have to take over one and
a half, I would smash it with my four to
one k for Lucas with the loss, right, But Mark,
I do want to add, like, how much of this
in Dallas, because that's the side of this that infinitely
interests me more until I till like, what the tenth
(31:25):
when we see both of them on the court, I'm
still I'm still stuck back in Dallas. I don't know,
DFW do it for me because how much of this
in Dallas is the concept because we heard about Luca
early been playing professional basketball since she was like, I
don't know, in the first grade. However, it works over
it in Europe you're playing like Real Madrid on a
serious note, since it was like what thirteen fourteen years
(31:45):
old and has been tagged as like this virtue of
so this prodigy and we saw it and no disagreement here, right,
But when you are tagged like that and told this
and and you see it on the court so often
where is it in the level of like, I don't know,
drag Pop visions to say all the time. Part of
(32:06):
the reason why the Spurs were so great because Tim Duncan,
and Tim Duncan allowed him to coach, allowed Pop to
coach him.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
How it was Luka.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Donc just like able to be coached, And like, how
much of that because we know he played with dark
and I know I'm rambling. He overlapped with Dirk for
a year, but that was Dirk's last season. It was
a Swan song. Lebron is still like a top at
any night, a top fifteen player in the NBA, and
he's forty something years old.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
So I'm wondering how much of that I don't know.
I said a lot.
Speaker 7 (32:32):
You go, Mark, Yeah, you're onto something here. I mean, look,
no one's ever going to be like Tim Duncan. So
he's an outlier. But I think when you're looking at
Luka Doctric, I think he is coachable. But he's also
someone that won't be afraid to express his own opinion.
And so I think in fairness with what we saw
with Luca is that he went through some right rights
of passage moments with not being a Paul Hog, trusting
(32:56):
his teammates, making the extra pass, being a better defender,
not a finish product by any means, but at least
being amenable enough to turn some of those weaknesses into
maybe stretch to say it, strength, but not as severe
as a weakness. He is coachable. And I think the
other thing here, guys, they we have to keep in
(33:16):
mind is that he may not be in the best
of shape, but ultimately it hasn't really mattered. He's still
produced at a high level all NBA five teams. And
I will say this, like Kobe Bryant's work, ethic was different.
He was his own entity, but he scored eighty one
points admitting that his pregame meal was consuming grape soda
(33:38):
and Popperoni pizza. He was in his prime. It didn't
matter at that point. So what I'm getting at with
Luca is that once you start feeling the strain of
the consequences of not taking care of your body, most
of these players start falling in line and doing those things.
I think a good thing is alex Well alluded to
he's with Lebron, he's the master sure at doing that.
(34:01):
And I think now that he's under the Lakers umbrella.
He's obviously going to feel the additional pressure that comes
with playing with the Lakers franchise. You combine that with
his chip on his shoulder, and I expect him to
just be a maniacal and magical Luka Dovich, I'm so excited.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Mark, before we let you go, what are you hearing?
Still a Monday Lakers debut for Luca.
Speaker 7 (34:23):
Yeah, that's the expectation. Same thing with Mark Williams, and
the expectation from the Lakers is that when it comes
to Lebron, James and Luka doctch chemistry, it's going to
work out five. JJ Reddick said that Lebron said that,
I think it's more about the rotations and everyone else
around them, as well as their defense post ad. That's
going to be a work of progress.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
I'm so excited. I'm so excited.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
Mark.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Thank you so much for joining us. Really really appreciate
all that insight.
Speaker 7 (34:51):
I appreciate you and Martin and always fun talking hoops.
Speaker 8 (34:53):
With you guys.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
All Right, we're gonna take a quick break here, but
when we come back, the Dues and the downton Sports.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
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Speaker 1 (35:12):
Welcome back to Fox Football Saturday. I'm Alex Curry here
with Martin wise In for Carman. We are broadcasting live
from the Tart dot com studios in Los Angeles. Thank
you for spending your Super Bowl Saturday with us. Oh,
had to wait for the drop. It is time for
the dues and don'ts in sports.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
Highlighting the dudes.
Speaker 6 (35:30):
Oh, I love that and putting a spotlight on the don't.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
The subject brings me no joy.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Don't do that, That's insane.
Speaker 6 (35:37):
It's time for the dues and the don'ts in sports.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Okay, My duw has been one of my favorite watches
all week. Do give Jameis Winston a broadcast job immediately
after he retires whenever that is. Matt rops to our
Fox Sports Digital team. Shout out to Buck for having
the genius idea of Jamis doing all the content for
us at Super Bowl. Have you seen this? Have you
been watching it?
Speaker 2 (36:01):
He's been the star of the week.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Players faces light up when they see him. He's been
at like almost every media day, who's throwing w cookies
asking all to like catch w's from him, biking around town, singing.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Having the best time.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
I just saw a clip of him right now holding court.
Is it Lafiti? What has it called Lafitte? It's like Lafitte,
the oldest bar in the.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
US, seventeen feet Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
He's literally there, like holding court on the bar with
the Fox Sports.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Mic, like just having the time of his life.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
You know, there's no electricity in that bar, really, yep.
They like candles at nice excuse me what? And so
like all the electricity, like the fans and stuff. They
plug them in out.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
A little dangerous though, like live fire in a bar.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
I mean, I guess sorry, don't do not if you
are both a professional athlete or a person who covers
professional athletes.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
Complain about flying on social media.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Angel Re said Miami might be the worst airport for
the worst costomer service ever on Twitter.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
And there's just no win. There's no win. I'm sorry
because here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Yeah, people don't understand that you're regular people too, but
nobody wants to hear that.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
But also, like it is a it's a gift to
be able to travel exactly, like whether it's for leisure
or for work. Like I am so grateful every time
I'm like, wow, I get to do this. Not everybody
gets to fly on a plane, Like, not everybody gets
to like travel the country and travel the world, whether
it is for work or whether it is for fun.
And I just I still like I'm a window seat
(37:36):
early like for life, because I am just so fascinated
every time you're flying in the.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Air, like you were literally flying in the air.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
It's so cool. Like I stare out the window looking
at the clouds, looking at everything. It's still like the
best view in the world to me, Like, I just
be grateful, sit down, be humble, right, enjoy it. Okay,
do shine a light on women in this industry. Jalen
Hurts is making history with an all female management team
led by Nicolan, the first black woman to ever wrap
(38:05):
a suitabowl player. But when he's asked about it, I
love his attitude because this is just how it should be,
he said, I don't put gender on good work just
so happens.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
I got a.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Good group of strong, confident women who are go getters,
and it's just it's just so badass. I love it
so much.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
Do not have a podcast if you're a max player. Oh,
if you're a max player, don't, don't do it.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
You're already making enough money playing basketball. Because he's out,
Paul George says.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Since joining the Sixers, Paul George has uploaded more podcast
clips to YouTube than fuel goals made.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
So far, his YouTube channel has a total of two
hundred and eighty eight videos. He has made one hundred
and ninety seven total field goals.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Oh okay, so what are your thoughts on Draymond.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
Green max player? He's not a Max player.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
No one's expecting Draymond Green to have more field goal
makes than podcast clips.
Speaker 4 (38:58):
No, I like it either.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Yeah, he gives you what you want. Okay, So then,
Michael Parsons.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
I just I'm out on athlete podcasts in general. I
don't know who listens to them. I feel like they're
all created to make Twitter clips.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
That's all it is. I mean, it's all for the clips.
Any single podcast out there, unless you're a stand on
whatever that podcast is, you're literally just going for like
the thirty to sixty second social clips to go viral
and drive people to your site and get brand deals
because that's how we all get paid.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
Sure, okay, brought to you by for that.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
There we go, do find a TV or ticket for
the MAVs Laker game. We heard Aunt talking about it
this week and he is all of us. He said,
if he's not playing, he is buying a front row
ticket to that game. I think I might have secured
tickets to the game here in La at the end
of the month, and I can't wait. It's going to
(39:54):
be It's going to be cinema you guys like I.
Just the fact that mas fan so like how the
funeral for Luca outside of the stadio is just insane?
All right? When we come back, was that the craziest
trade deadline in NBA history. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
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Speaker 4 (41:05):
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Speaker 2 (41:07):
Yeah, Happy Super Bowl weekend, everybody.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
We spent the first hour kind of breaking down Eagles Chiefs,
playing the what if game if the Chiefs three pete,
if Saquon Barkley wins the Super Bowl. We're saving our
Super Bowl picks for the end of the show, so
stay tuned for that. As Martin mentioned, Lakers pacers right now,
no Lebron, no Luca, and they're still up fifty six
(41:32):
thirty three right now. So it kind of feels like
this whole Lakers team has just kind of elevated and
is playing with that added motivation since all the change
in the crazy trade deadline that we'll get into in
a minute. Here, we have a great show for you
the last hour my co hosts and NFL and Fox
writer Carmen Vitali is joining us live from New Orleans
(41:53):
in about thirty minutes. But let's get to that NBA
trade deadline, because this week one of the wildest NBA
trade deadlines ever and something we're gonna be talking about
for years to come. And the Lakers, my LA Lakers
were the heavy hitters, first trading for Luka Doncic and
(42:14):
then sending ad to the MAVs, a movement shot the
sports world and the memes have been sending me all week.
Did you go down the rabbit hole of the memes?
And Almos was hitting gosh I like I I love
it so much. And then obviously the Lakers capped off
their week trading for big man Mark Williams, sending their
(42:35):
first round pick Dalton Connect, which you know he was.
He's been great, ya, He's been awesome, but.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
Short months ago, you just did the draft. According to the.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
Whole everybody insane, insane. But Mark Williams, he's twenty three,
he's kind of having a breakout season now. Yes, he's
missed sometime in each of his first three seasons, but
he's gonna be great for Luca to have a big man.
Both young guys I can grow and develop and really
be the face of this franchise moving forward for the Lakers.
(43:05):
But let's dive deeper into the Luca to the Lakers
and ad to the MAVs trade, because this isn't Where
were you moment when.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
It happened, and.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
No, no I can talk about it. I was backstage
at my husband's concert. He was playing a fire benefit
relief show, and one of my best friends were in the.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Crowd and they were like waving trying to get my attention.
I was like, what, what check your phone? I was like,
I what, check your phone?
Speaker 1 (43:33):
And I get out my phone. It's like, excuse me
what again? Like did not believe it is this real?
Did Jumps get hacked? Checking all the other credible news sources,
and again, I don't think it hit me until the
Lakers were playing the Warriors, and Lebron hit those three
(43:53):
threes in a row and then had that last three
from the logo shot and just kind of, you know,
flexed and held there, and Luca's standing up on the
sidelines in Lakers gear and I'm like, oh, yeah, he's here,
and this is gonna work, you guys, It's gonna work.
But like, it still doesn't make sense. There's so many
things to unpack here. The first big question, why did
(44:17):
Dallas basically give away a top five player who was
twenty five years old, hasn't even reached his prime yet,
was the face of your franchise and the future, and
the MAVs were in the NBA Finals last year because
of Luca.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
It's the last part that really truly makes it most ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
All of it. I mean, we've even seen quotes from
Mark Cuban when he was asked back in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
Like would you ever trade Luca?
Speaker 1 (44:45):
And he's like, you're gonna see me with a divorce
lawyer getting a divorce before I trade Luca. But you
have to remember he's not the majority owner anymore. And
there's a lot of theories. So I love going down
the conspiracy theory. If it's if it's healthy and harm
like not harmful to anybody. I love going down to
get it. Yeah, if it's fun and like okay, because
(45:07):
it still does something's fishy. Something does not make sense,
Like why, I don't think it's just because he's not
in great shape, and like he likes to have some
drinks when he's not on.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
The court, like so does everybody else.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
So do all of your other athletes, Like excuse me,
Like you are a million dollar child, You're gonna have
some fun. That's what they do. Like there's no stopping
that in moderation. Obviously it wasn't affecting his play on
the court, and like okay, so he wasn't in like
or even if.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
It was affecting his play on the court, it wasn't
impacting their ability to exceed the high schools.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
They were in the finals last year, right, because I'm
thinking about that, like you know, you hear guys you
some guys were retired.
Speaker 3 (45:50):
Yeah, and they had like maybe a drug problem or
a drinking problem or something during their.
Speaker 4 (45:53):
Career, but like I never saw it. Why because you
were putting down forty every night?
Speaker 3 (45:57):
Yeah, Metal World Peace was like it was reportedly he
said it several times. You take shots at Hennessy at halftime.
It's like he talked about it.
Speaker 4 (46:04):
I couldn't tell you know what I.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
Mean, because if I was taking shuts to Hennessy at
half time, I'd be down.
Speaker 4 (46:08):
I'll be down on the ground.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
The goat would be out playing like two rounds of
golf before he come to a game. Like he knew
he was a party animal, but there wasn't social media
back then, so both him and Ronman would like probably
just roll into the games and absolutely slay, Like it's
just as long as you're doing your job.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
It's But the the thing to me I just keep
coming back to is when you break the news and
everybody thinks it's fake. Yes, like the I have chams
on on whatever he tweets. I get a text, right, yeah,
exactly notifications and so I'm like, no, no, no, this is
really his page.
Speaker 4 (46:46):
Yeah, So I just thought somebody got to his phone.
Speaker 3 (46:49):
And then I saw somebody who is uh, you know,
one one degree of separation from him, and I saw
from Cham's and I saw that person having like no, no, no,
this is real. I just talked to him like I
was like well, he wouldn't just gass it for no reason,
so I thought it was so I got over it quickly.
Kanye West was also on a tweet binge at the
same tungs like did did Kanye get his phone?
Speaker 7 (47:11):
You know?
Speaker 4 (47:11):
Like how did this? Like what's what's going on here?
All of this makes no sense.
Speaker 3 (47:15):
Zero sex, both Kanye sweets and trading Luca die difference, right,
So zero sense. But I do appreciate now that people
are deep diving into like the Texas legislator votes, the ownership.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
Yeah, so let's follow the money, because that's always you want.
You watch the wire, I've seen it, not like it.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
I say, you follow the drugs, you get drug dealers.
You followed the money. You don't know where it's.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
Going to take exactly. So Luca was eligible for his
Supermax contract this summer, worth five years, three hundred and
forty five million dollars, and now the most the Lakers
can offer Luca an extension this summer's five years, two
hundred and twenty nine million dollars. So it's one hundred
and sixteen million dollars less than the Supermax. So if
you look at from Luca's side, like the other things
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to considered. Texas doesn't have state income tax, so Luca
would have gotten a lot more on that contract. Now,
they do have to pay taxes based on the cities
that they play in because that's.
Speaker 3 (48:11):
The jock tax, but also through the property tax in Texas.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
Insane. Yeah, well that's how they make up for it.
Speaker 4 (48:17):
Jack.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
So there's always there's always something house.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
Yeah, he just he had just bought a fifteen million
dollar house a week ago.
Speaker 3 (48:24):
You know, that's a quickness. I heard a lot about
that on the trade deadline. Our NBA players just always
buying houses. Do you know what I'm saying? Is that
happening frequently? Then we imagine because it's.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
Like probably, I mean, you got to put your money somewhere.
It's stafe in real estate, get some land. But okay,
that's a lot of money for most people, right, but
not when you're casino owners. And the new majority owners
of the MAVs are the fourth wealthiest among American sports
team owners. They are worth around thirty billion dollars. They're
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just below FIRSUS Steve Balmer with the Clippers. Second is
the Wall and Family Broncos. Third, Dan Gilbert with the Cavs. Fourth.
I think it's the Adelson Adelson family with the MAVs.
I don't know if I'm pronouncing their name right, but
they own casinos Addison.
Speaker 2 (49:13):
Yeah, and Luca.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
Was the face and the future of your franchise. You
pay that man that Supermax deal. That is chump change
for you, which makes you think that there is more.
Speaker 2 (49:26):
To the story that right there is There's got to
be more.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
Even if you listen to what MAVs GM said, their
reasoning was, like, we believe defense wins games.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
So the MAVs.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
Literally reached out to the Lakers and only the Lakers,
asking for Anthony Davis and offered up Luca that like,
that does not make sense. If he really wanted to
trade the man, you could have gotten a hall for him.
You could have even still paid him his Supermax deal
and looked for a trade and like had an open
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market bidding and would have gotten so much more than
you got.
Speaker 3 (50:03):
And you would have had a very acrimonious and awkward
period of time, however long it took to get the
deal done. Like Anthony Davis in New Orleans, I know, no. Again,
you probably only cared like when is he coming? Did
he book his flight yet, Like, but you know that
was that was a long drawn out period of Anthony
Davis basically folding his arms and saying, I won't be
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a Pelican. Trade me to the Lakers, right, So you
can see something similar to that happening.
Speaker 4 (50:30):
But and there's enough plausible reasons.
Speaker 3 (50:34):
Right, like you know, the deep dive into it, with
the whole way that the basketball world works with the
shoe contracts and Nico Harrison being a Nike guy in
Polinka being a former agent who was working with Nike guys,
and Nico was Kobe's guy.
Speaker 1 (50:48):
I didn't even go down that, but that's how they
end up having the relationship to make the call.
Speaker 3 (50:53):
In the first place, in my opinion. But I'm not
saying that has anything to do with his actual deal.
Speaker 1 (50:58):
You mentioned the state legislation, Yes, and the family paying
a lot of the lobbyist because they're trying to get
a casino.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
They basically want to turn.
Speaker 4 (51:06):
The They want to build a new arena.
Speaker 1 (51:07):
It's like a casino complex. Yeah, and they're not getting
it approved even though they're putting all this money forward.
So if you tank get rid of the face of
your franchise and you threaten to move the team if
they don't give you a casino. You can't do that
when you're in the NBA Finals and you have like
one of the top five players in the league and you.
Speaker 4 (51:25):
Also came through that when the fan base loves you.
Speaker 1 (51:28):
Right, yeah, right, like oh they hate them now. There
are so many MAVs fans in the Lakers comments now
like new Laker fan here, let's go Luca, Let's go
win a championship.
Speaker 2 (51:38):
Like that doesn't happen.
Speaker 1 (51:40):
I mean that doesn't happen often like fans just like okay,
done burning the jersey. This is like, no, they are
loyal to Luca. Like that fan base was loyal to Luca.
They loved Luca more than they love the actual frame.
Speaker 3 (51:54):
How many how how many dogs and cats in the
Dallas metroplex area do you think are named Luca?
Speaker 4 (52:01):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (52:01):
So many? You know, like so many. I saw that too,
Like what do I do now? I named my dog Luca?
You're a Laker fan. Now, that's what happens.
Speaker 3 (52:10):
It's just a move that would saved like something nefarious.
Speaker 4 (52:14):
Yeah from Luka.
Speaker 3 (52:15):
Doncis right, like if he was I don't know, criminal
of some sort, Like there's no does not make sense.
But there's very I actould say this. The basketball reason
for this is so poorly constructed.
Speaker 1 (52:27):
Oh you gained some weight, like you're not working out enough.
We're done.
Speaker 2 (52:30):
It's like a bad breakup.
Speaker 4 (52:32):
Well, what's done. And Nico Harris has said as much
at his press conference.
Speaker 3 (52:35):
He's like, I'm thinking about this year and the next year,
and it's like in four years ago.
Speaker 1 (52:39):
Well, Anthony Davis also, now you just reported this like
he was in the locker room getting checked on.
Speaker 4 (52:44):
He's injury prone, has not played, has not come back
out yet.
Speaker 2 (52:47):
He's injury prone.
Speaker 1 (52:48):
You guys.
Speaker 3 (52:49):
But I'm just if you just take when Nico Harrison
said as as fact, right, he truly believes it. He's dead,
He's absolutely right. In four years yeah, I'm fired regardless. Yeah, right,
Like he's absolutely right.
Speaker 2 (53:04):
The win now, but Luca is your best chance to
win now.
Speaker 4 (53:07):
I don't disht I agree. I'm not. I'm just saying
I'm trying to get inside the man's head.
Speaker 1 (53:13):
It makes no it's trying.
Speaker 4 (53:14):
To understand he was the puppet.
Speaker 1 (53:16):
He was the puppet of the new ownership something, but
it was not his call.
Speaker 3 (53:21):
That's what makes the most sense to me because this
is not his the Mark Cuban that I again, I
never met the man, but the Mark Clean and I
am familiar with over the last twenty.
Speaker 1 (53:31):
Really, Oh yeah, he's a he's got to play an MB.
Speaker 4 (53:33):
Well, there's no chance he would. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (53:38):
He would buy a Manhattan beach before he would have
to trade Luca DNCS like he would rather do that.
Speaker 1 (53:42):
He said, you're gonna find me with my divorce like
a divorce lawyer before I trade Luca. And there were
even text messages of players reading out like hey, I'm confused,
and he said that makes two of us, like he
did not have a say in this.
Speaker 2 (53:53):
So this was not Cuban. But he's not the majority
of it.
Speaker 4 (53:55):
I do, I do.
Speaker 3 (53:56):
I'll say this, I'm not the conspiracy theory guy. My
tenfoil hat does fit. I took it off a while
a couple of years back. But I would just say
it's gonna be interesting to see in about two and
a year and a half if this Dallas team is
the one that is rumored to be the one.
Speaker 4 (54:11):
To jump to Vegas.
Speaker 1 (54:13):
Yeah, I mean your owners are casino owners. It's it's
not that deep of a theory why.
Speaker 4 (54:23):
Dallas is the fourth largest city in America.
Speaker 3 (54:25):
There's no rationale why they would want to move this
team to Vegas, which has already been the Vegas don't
even want the damn baseball team.
Speaker 4 (54:32):
They got no right, And it's cool. I got the
the Ages play there in Mandalay Bay. That works, right.
The WNBA works, and you know, the hockey team works.
NFL works.
Speaker 3 (54:42):
But NFL also works in part I think because everybody
goes to watch their team play in Vegas.
Speaker 4 (54:47):
I don't know that's not happening on a Tuesday night
in the NBA. No, like we've seen the NBA Cup
try to be in Vegas.
Speaker 1 (54:54):
It's insane, But like can we Let's let's take a
look at the Lakers side of this trade, because the
Lakers make their biggest moves in trades when you go
back in history, right, they traded for Wilt Chamberlain in
the sixties, won a championship, traded for Kareem in the seventies,
then traded for the Magic draft pick in seventy nine.
Speaker 2 (55:15):
Then Magic was a face in the eighties.
Speaker 1 (55:17):
Magic and Kareem went on to win five championships in
the nineties and two thousands, traded for Kobe at the
ninety six draft, then signed Shack as a free agent
in ninety.
Speaker 2 (55:25):
Six the Kobe Shack three Pete.
Speaker 1 (55:28):
Then in two thousand and eight traded for Pau Gasol
won two championships, twenty eighteen signed Lebron James, won championship,
and now in twenty twenty five trade for Luca. This
one fell definitely in the Lakers lap. They just were
extremely lucky. But this is again what the Lakers do.
They're gonna find a way to steal your girl. And
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that's like the benefits of not only being one of
the biggest names and franchises in sports, like Lakers is
a global brand, but la is also a top market
sports market. This is so insane, like it is just
so beautiful and insane, but they just got their face
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of the.
Speaker 2 (56:11):
Future absolutely fell into their lap.
Speaker 3 (56:13):
And I wish I I always want to give my
phone on brod because if anybody else is calling offering
deals like this, call me, because I'll answer anybody calls.
Speaker 4 (56:24):
Answers the phone. I answered the phone, No call already,
I'll pick it up. Yeah, I answer the phone. Whillever call.
So I almost I'm almost that close may don't tweet
it out.
Speaker 3 (56:30):
No, this is the only way this doesn't work for
the Lakers is if Luka Doncic is an extra well and.
Speaker 4 (56:38):
Beat No, that's it.
Speaker 2 (56:39):
That's not gonna happen. That's the only not gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (56:42):
He's now playing with Lebron, one of the greatest players
of all time, who not only takes great care of
his body, but like also has a great time. He
talks about drinking and tequila and his wine all the time.
This is the perfect role model for Luca to learn
how to be leader both on and off the court.
Speaker 4 (57:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (57:01):
I just I think that's the only way that it
doesn't work. Because I just said this, there's two ways
it works. Yeah, Dallas wins two of the next three
NBA championships or Luka Doncic just plays I don't know,
forty games over the next three years.
Speaker 2 (57:15):
It's not going to happen exactly.
Speaker 8 (57:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (57:16):
I don't think either one of those things is a
realistic possible.
Speaker 1 (57:18):
Because Luka Doncic is going to go through the Lebron
James training workshop. He's going to teach him how to
take care of his body and be able to have
fun on and off the court, but understand the public
image of.
Speaker 2 (57:30):
It, because there is a way to go about it.
Speaker 4 (57:31):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (57:32):
And he's going to teach him how to He's a.
Speaker 4 (57:33):
Question I should have asked Medina.
Speaker 3 (57:35):
Lebron has had a standard, right, a standard of how
everything is going. But when you're Luca and you've been
the best player on your team and the prodigy, and
you've been tagged as a virtual Wilshaw your whole life,
at that point, the standard has to come from, in general,
my opinion, the best player on the team, the most
important player on the team, has to set the standard
of how.
Speaker 4 (57:53):
We're doing things.
Speaker 6 (57:54):
Right.
Speaker 3 (57:54):
Yeah, Lebron still, I think has the respect of Luca
to be able to set the standard while Luca will
be better than him. Okay, well, I think Lebron still
has that gravitasta.
Speaker 1 (58:03):
I actually want to dive into this because I love
this question. We're going to take a quick break here.
When we come back, we're just going to continue this
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Luca to the Lakers conversation and why I believe it's
gonna work. And what I said a moment ago was
now he gets because his biggest knock was that what
he's not in shape and his lifestyle off the course.
Speaker 3 (58:39):
Well now, I mean, honestly though his biggest knock was
kind of having that meltdown in the finals.
Speaker 4 (58:46):
This out of shape started after the trade. Like if
you had asked me two days, like on Friday of
last week, is Luca dodgets out of shape? You be
in better shape, but.
Speaker 1 (58:57):
Paid like millions of dollars to be your to be
in shape? Like I get that. But now he gets
to learn from the greatest player to play the game
during our time. Right now, hopefully he goes through the
Lebron training workshop, Who's going to teach him how to
take care of his body, still be able to have
fun off the course, off the court. But like understand
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the public image of it all because Lebron loves his
wine and Tequila talks about it in postgame interviews. Another
thing to remember, Luca is Lebron's favorite player. He's openly
talked about that. He tried to get him back in
twenty nineteen. And I thought this beforehand, but we're already
seeing it happen to.
Speaker 3 (59:32):
Get him to sign it to his shoe company. Yeah, yeah,
just to clarify, thank you.
Speaker 4 (59:37):
I guess.
Speaker 1 (59:39):
This is motivating Lebron even more. I think Lebron's last
championship is going to be Luca's first.
Speaker 3 (59:48):
Because to your point, the conversation at the start of
this season was does drafting Briny James energize Lebron? Does
it make him want to go out?
Speaker 1 (59:58):
You know, that was one of the things, Like, well,
I think that was a check and like now he
could retire if he wanted to. This just added a
whole new level for Lebron, and we, like we already
saw it. He just became the only player, along with
Michael Jordan, to score forty points in a game as
a forty year old. Like he also became the youngest
and oldest player in NBA history to score forty plus
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points at nineteen and forty years old, like and he's
still like at forty one of the best players on
the sport.
Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
I think conservatively a top fifteen player in the league
right now, which is like may sound like an insult,
but it's definitely not when you can settle the fact that,
like my knees hurt right now, you know, my back.
Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
Hurts, like we're under forty and I get it. Like
once you hit thirty five, it's like, oh, now I
know what people were talking about. Like everything hurts after
a hard workout, yes, and that's just a normal hard workout.
This isn't like every single day like putting your body
through the ultimate test.
Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Like I this is gonna work. This is gonna work.
Speaker 4 (01:01:02):
I mean it asked, well, why would it not?
Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
And I think it works for both of them because again,
Luca now has kind of a mentor, right and Lebron
loves Luca so much. This is the perfect like after
like I can already like see this moment and I
love it so much.
Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
Like when they.
Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
Win their first championship together, Lebron is gonna like take
his crown and put.
Speaker 4 (01:01:28):
It up, put it on Luca. That'll be that'll be
the last game Lebron.
Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
Play Like I said, Lebron's last championship is gonna be
Luca's first, and it's gonna be iconic. He's just calling it.
I just like I see it.
Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
Brian's gonna be sitting there like, Wow, what a.
Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
Dude. He had a heart fall.
Speaker 4 (01:01:46):
I did as I had a hard.
Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
Time watching that.
Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
He had a dunk and fell off the raind you
guys and just like whacked the floor.
Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
Do you know what though, My biggest takeaway from watching
that after he got up obviously, Yeah, there's a big
difference between you g league in the NBA. Uh huh,
A massive differences with the size of the guys out there,
Like these guys look small.
Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
Yeah, dude, all right, Martin working double duty. Tell us
what's trending.
Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
There's only one thing truly trending right now. That's Anthony
Davis still in the locker room.
Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
I felt like, are we surprised?
Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
This is a knock on?
Speaker 4 (01:02:21):
Ad Nico Harrison might be surprised. I saw it all part.
Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
Of the planet's working.
Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
I saw it tweet how my buddy Mike Curtis works
for the Dallas News.
Speaker 4 (01:02:30):
Yeah, and he reported.
Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
That I'm still waiting for him to report that somebody
came back out of the locker room, but somebody replied
to him and says Ryano says, it's much more enjoyable
watching a well conditioned player have an injury instead of
an out of shape player have an injury. Thank you
Nico for improving the watching experience. That's probably the calmest
and safest tweet.
Speaker 4 (01:02:51):
That I could read about this moment. But the score
Mavericks looked.
Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
Like they'll probably still take the win home here one
ten to one one with just under a minute left
left in the game, up one oh three, now one
ten to one oh three.
Speaker 4 (01:03:04):
Anthony Davis still the high.
Speaker 3 (01:03:06):
Man for Dallas, even know they will play thirty one minutes.
He had twenty six points of thirty one minutes. Al
Prinsing Noon with twenty six at the half up between
the Lakers and the Pacers is a sixty six to
fifty five to fifty.
Speaker 4 (01:03:18):
Lead for Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
Dorian Finney Smith, I'm sorry whether we had tomorrow with sixteen.
Austin Reeves with twenty so far gave Vincent adding ten
the high man right now for the Pacers.
Speaker 4 (01:03:30):
Obi Toppin has nine.
Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
TJ McConnell with eight uh that's in the NBA and
men's college basketball still going on. With thirteen minutes left
in the game, Florida has a sixty eight to fifty three.
Speaker 4 (01:03:41):
Lead over the Auburn Tigers. Auburn the number one team
in the nation, down fifteen right now. Florida's ranked sixth.
Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
The fifth rank Houston Cougar's have a forty eight to
thirty nine lead over Colorado and a top twenty five
matchup in the SEC.
Speaker 4 (01:03:55):
Missouri and Texas A and M.
Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
The fifteenth rank Tigers have a one point lead fifty
eight to fifty seven over the Texas A and M.
Haggis In Earlier today, we saw Kentucky be South Carolina,
Wisconsin over Iowa, Michigan, Indiana and Kansas State upset Kansas.
Kansas now seven and five and Big twelve play that maverage.
Game now is one twelve to one oh three with
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fifty seconds left in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 4 (01:04:19):
Back to us, Back.
Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
To us, still listening to Fox Football Saturday. I'm Alex
Curry here with Martin Wise and Forrakarmen. We are broadcasting
live from the tark dot Com studios in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
It's time for our next guest.
Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
You know her, you lover, live from New Orleans, my
co host and NFL and Fox writer Carmen Vitally. Hi, guys,
Hi carm You've been living it up all week in
New Orleans for Super Bowl. Give us the vibes because
obviously we.
Speaker 5 (01:04:42):
Both read there, you hear it, You're here?
Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
No, are we on bourbon? Are we currently raging at
a bar? Because I love that for you?
Speaker 5 (01:04:48):
No, we are. We are not right now. We've done
a lot of that this week already. They actually shut
down much of the Central Business district this morning as
we were trying to check out of a hotel to
move elsewhere. Whoa and there was a parade going first.
Speaker 8 (01:05:02):
Yes, I saw that.
Speaker 5 (01:05:03):
I saw that, and like everything was shut down. I
was like, in theory, this is great. In practice, it's
a nightmare. So it's extremely busy. Yesterday I think was
the day that a majority of the people got in
because all of a sudden, the city just flipped a
whole other switch and it's buzzing.
Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
I love that so much.
Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
Okay, so we haven't fully dove in on this yet.
Chiefs are going for the first Super Bowl three pet
tomorrow where do you fall in all this do the
do you kind of have that Chief fatigue?
Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
Or would you love to witness history and greatness?
Speaker 5 (01:05:42):
I mean, Chefs fatigue or not. I've learned not to
spend against Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes as part of
the Kansas City Chiefs. I learned my lesson last year
when they suffered the most drops of any offense in
the league and still won the Super Bowl. So it's
far until I'm proven wrong, until they don't do it.
I'm riding with the Chiefs until the wheels fall. But
I do think the Eagles are going to give them
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an excellent game. I mean, this is such a powerful,
potent offense led by Saquon Barkley playing the best football
of his career, but they have so many different ways
to beat you. Even outside of Sakuon. You've got a
fully healthy Jalen Hurts who can run the ball. You've
got a j Brown over the top, Davonte Smith who's
kind of an after thought in this offense, Dallas Goddard,
you name it, behind one of the best offensive lines
in football. So I really do think that they're going
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to score some points and the Chiefs are going to
have to keep up with it. They didn't score a
whole lot of points. I mean, they were fifteenth in
scoring offense this year in the regular season, so they're
going to need to keep up. But I mean, they're
the Kansas City Chiefs, and they've got an entirely different
set of rules and a completely different different playbook in
the postseason, courtesy of Andy Reid and all the work
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he puts in.
Speaker 3 (01:06:47):
So having been down there being around just generally, I'm
curious the people that you see, you see more red?
Speaker 4 (01:06:54):
Are you seeing more green? Just in the crowds around there.
Speaker 3 (01:06:57):
I'm curious how who's down there more because you would
think there might be Chiefs fan fatigue. Actually i'd be
broke after the last two Super Bowls.
Speaker 5 (01:07:04):
I was gonna say, I don't even know so much
if it's fatigue. As it is, people just don't have
the money anymore, because it is not it's not a
cheap ticket, it's not a cheap flight, there's not cheap
hotel rooms. I actually I have seen a lot more green,
I will say so it's a lot of the go
birth crowd is is much more vocal, and we just
actually saw a bus going down Canal Street this morning.
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That was a not only was it wrapped in all
Eagles players and Eagles logos and everything like that, but
it was actually the Dallas Sucks bust.
Speaker 3 (01:07:38):
So actual game question for you, which unit take? I
mean quarterback aside because that's just one person, but unit
between offensive line, my receivers, defensive backs, whatever, which unit
do you think is going to be the most important
for whoever is you end up thanks winning this game
to Kansas City.
Speaker 5 (01:07:55):
For line, yeahide, Kansas City. I really do think that
it's going to come down to Patrick Mahomes being able
to create You think that. Listen, Joe Tuney kicking out
the left tackle has sustained the Chiefs. They had injuries there,
they had, They've had a revolving door at tackle on
both sides of the line. They've had one of the
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best interior offensive lines in football. But you took one
of those guys and he kicked him out to the
left side and he has filled in admirably. But you
just wonder how that's going to fare against the Chiefs
front seven, in particular, that is really good at getting pressure,
at using some of those simulated pressures. I really think
that it's going to be up to, you know, Mahomes
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doing the Mahomes things. But if you're constantly trying to
if you're constantly containing him, that's going to be that
much harder. So I do think that that's what it's
going to come down to for the Chiefs, but I
also have faith that they're going.
Speaker 7 (01:08:48):
To be able to do it.
Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
Now, we know the offensive stars these teams have, but
they both have top five defenses too, So do you
think this game is going to be like an offensive
explosion back and forth or defensive chess match?
Speaker 5 (01:09:01):
As much as I love both of these defenses, I
just I really do think with the capabilities that the
Philadelphia Eagles have, I do think they'll push the Chiefs
to have to score points. So I do kind of
envision them maybe a little bit more of a high
scoring game now now that I've said that they will
watch it be this kind of a chess match between
Vic Fangio and Steve Spagnolo between these two guys who are,
you know, very familiar with each other. Yeah, they're bested
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veteran coordinators in the league, and I mean, Fangio has
really elevated this team in Philadelphia once he was installed
by Nick Sirianni. Both of those coordinators under Sirianni have
after he took over that CEO type role. So it's
going to be really interesting because, I mean, Fangio is
no stranger to Patch Mahomes, what he can do, how
this offense operates. But the biggest thing about the Chiefs,
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which I alluded to before, they just don't behave in
the postseason like they do in the regular season. There's
very little you can do to prepare for the Chiefs
in the postseason because they just do things that they
haven't done all Year's.
Speaker 3 (01:09:59):
So good Brandon Graham coming back from injury, it looks
like he's questionable. Everything I've seen looks like he's tracking
to play at least a.
Speaker 4 (01:10:05):
Few snaps in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (01:10:07):
Be a impact blood, be a player who expected to
make an impact there. Now you can juxtappose that with
Chris Jones on the other side, is one of the
if not the best defensive tackle in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (01:10:17):
It's a short list, and he's on it.
Speaker 3 (01:10:19):
When you look at these defensive lines, especially you look
at Kansas City and how Patrick Mahomes will scramble in
big moments, that's something he normally does. And then the
tush push with the Philly side of things, which are
these defensive lines you think has the advantage.
Speaker 5 (01:10:34):
That's tough fun because I think that they're both really,
really good. And you talk about Chris Jones the Kansas
City Chiefs, but you look at that divisional round and
that was George Carloss going off exactly. So he's become
a defensive corner stone. The last time these two teams
faced off the Super Bowl two years ago, George carl
Office was a rookie and he's evolved since then. And again,
Seatspalo knows when to dial things up and especially when
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you don't expect it. But I mean this Eagles defensive line,
and you talk about Brandon Graham, who's kind of the
glue guy at this point because it's this late in
his career. I have no doubt in my mind that
he's going to get on the field in some way,
shape or form, given the fact that he's just everybody's
favorite Eagle at this point. Long a tenured Eagle, he's
been with them forever. But you have guys like Jalen
Carter in the middle there that he's incredible out of
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Georgia and has just really come into his own and
he really occupies so much space on that interior. And
they have the guys behind him too that can back
up up guys like Zack Bahn that have just thrived
in Vicsangio's defense. After nothing much actually here in New Orleans,
he posts a picture from the Saint's locker room, which
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is what the Eagles are using, and as they get
ready for the game, and it's the same locker room
he was just in, except his face is now plastered
in it in an Eagles jersey. He's plastered on the
walls in an Eagles jersey. He said, it's really really
bizarre to be back in that same locker room but
see his face in a different jersey. But he's been
phenomenal for them just all over, you know, that middle level.
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Now that he's moved to inside backer and he can
still though be a factor in the path throw. So
I really don't have an answer for you, Martin. I
love both of these defensive lines so much.
Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
Loves defense, I do.
Speaker 5 (01:12:16):
I love defense. I grew up in Chicago. I didn't
have a lot of offense to watch, so defense I'm
a defensive girl. But I just mostly I love the lineman.
Defensive or offensive lineman. That's where the game is won
and lost.
Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
Okay, So Saquon Barkley has had one of the best
seasons for a running back ever, just one Offensive Player
of the Year. There's been a lot of talk he
probably should have been MVP. But if the Eagles pull
this off, will he be the reason?
Speaker 5 (01:12:41):
Yeah? I mean this offense starts and ends with Saquon,
And that's the difference in what this team is now
versus two years ago when they faced the Chiefs in
the Super Bowl. It's a difference between you know, going
as far as they did this season versus being disappointed
last year. Squan is the engine that makes this entire
thing go, and teams are going to try to focus
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the cancase. Teams are going to try to focus on
stopping the run. But Saquon Barkley is one of the
best at running into loaded boxes. He's one of the
best at breaking tackles, he's one of the best at
yards after contact. He's been that way all season. So
there's just not a whole lot slowing him down. And
with this much motivation, I don't think that anybody's really
gonna be able to be able to do that. Can
you shut down the other aspects of their offense too?
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It's the Eagles are a really formidable opponent, and honestly,
if it wasn't for whatever Chiefs voodoo there has been
over the last couple of years, if it wasn't for
last season and the Chiefs winning with you know, in
a down year, I've been taking the Eagles all day.
But I just I can't get past. I can't. I
can't go back on my promise to myself this season,
going like you're not going to bet against Kansas City.
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You're just not going to do it.
Speaker 1 (01:13:44):
This year, So take it.
Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
Your Super Bowl prediction is.
Speaker 5 (01:13:49):
He's sober, Eagles thirty three, thirty one.
Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
And your MVP.
Speaker 5 (01:14:00):
It's a great question.
Speaker 1 (01:14:02):
Probably it's I mean, it's the truth. If they do it,
it's going to be because of some incredible play he
makes at the end.
Speaker 4 (01:14:14):
There, I'm with Carl. I completely agree with the idea.
Speaker 3 (01:14:16):
It's like I made a promise to myself in August
that I wasn't going to do this, and now that
we're here, it very much feels like I'm at dinner
and I'm looking at the restaurant there and I wasn't
going to eat the dessert.
Speaker 4 (01:14:27):
I said, it wasn't going to do it, but.
Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
They have.
Speaker 4 (01:14:31):
So good it's a go.
Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
CARMI thank you so much for coming on. Have so
much fun this weekend, and we'll see you soon.
Speaker 5 (01:14:39):
Thank you, guys. Have a great day.
Speaker 1 (01:14:41):
All right, we're gonna take one more break here. When
we come back, we're making our Super Bowl picks and
some fun prompats. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio, Welcome
back to Fox Football Saturday, and Alex Curry here with
Martin Wise.
Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
Thank you for hanging out with us today.
Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
We are broadcasting live from the tire dot Com studios
in Los Angeles. I mean car not Carmen. Martin's here
for another what five hours?
Speaker 7 (01:15:03):
Four hours?
Speaker 4 (01:15:04):
You ever take?
Speaker 1 (01:15:05):
Yeah, we love that for you. Okay, well, it is
time for our Super Bowl picks and prop bets. I
am so excited for this.
Speaker 2 (01:15:13):
Producer Patrick lead us through the list we got.
Speaker 8 (01:15:16):
Alrighty, Alex and Martin. It is the game of all games.
It is a Super Bowl. We have York Kansas City
Chiefs one half point favorites versus your Philadelphia Eagles. There
there is no home or away team minus the Jerseys,
but one half point favorite Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (01:15:34):
Alex, who you going?
Speaker 1 (01:15:36):
Okay, I have not given away my pick yet, but
we've talked about it a lot on the show. Right,
if you're not a Chiefs or Eagles fan, you're gonna
like it's a win win in this Super Bowl, You're
gonna see greatness. So I want to see Saquon Barkley
have a mic drop, iconic end of a season. But
I also want to witness history, and I root for greatness,
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especially when you're living through it, and when you have
Patrick Mahome and Andy Reid and Travis Kelsey in their
prime doing what they do best. I can't bet against
them until someone proves that they can compete. So I'm
taking the Chiefs in a one score game tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (01:16:11):
I picked the Chiefs to cover the spread in August.
Speaker 3 (01:16:15):
I picked them in September, I picked them in November, December,
and I'll go ahead and pick them again in January
and February. I think Kansas City wins the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
Hey, but you wanted You said you were flirting with
the Eagles.
Speaker 3 (01:16:27):
No, I won't say Quon Barkley to do well, because
I don't like it. I don't like it when people
go on to in it and say you can't pay
running backs, because yeah, like.
Speaker 8 (01:16:34):
Stop out of here, shut up, get urge. All right,
Well that was the game. But we do have some
prop bets for everybody.
Speaker 1 (01:16:40):
We love it.
Speaker 4 (01:16:41):
We love the prop bets.
Speaker 8 (01:16:42):
Well, here's the first one here, speaking of Saquon the
over under. Let's take the over unders here, guys, Oh,
what is it? One hundred and eleven and a half
rushing yards? Are we going over?
Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
Are the I am going over? I think Saquon goes
off in the biggest moment of his career on his birthday,
and if the Eagles pull this off, Saquon Barkley will
be the Super Bowl MVP.
Speaker 4 (01:17:07):
I agree with that.
Speaker 3 (01:17:08):
I don't think the Eagles pull this off, and so
I'm going to go under eleven yards because I think
sae Quon runs wild they win the game. I don't
think they're going to win, so unfortunately, Saquon.
Speaker 4 (01:17:19):
Well that wild. All right, We'll go with the down under. Well,
we got the next one up.
Speaker 8 (01:17:24):
It is going to mahomes here passing touchdowns for mister Patty.
One and a half over under on passing touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
I'm going over, but I'm also hoping for like an
offensive explosion style game, back and forth touchdowns. But because
these are two of the top top defenses, I don't
know if that's gonna happen. But I do think Mahomes
is gonna get over one and a half passing touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (01:17:48):
I'm gonna go under here because I think he runs
one in in the short red zone.
Speaker 2 (01:17:53):
Okay, and you don't think.
Speaker 3 (01:17:55):
Because this is just passing touchdowns, just passing touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (01:17:59):
Yeah, he's only gonna throw one passing touchdown.
Speaker 4 (01:18:02):
I think he scores two, throws one and then we
see it.
Speaker 2 (01:18:05):
Taking it himself. Yeah, so who's the one Kelsey?
Speaker 4 (01:18:08):
Yeah, probably either that. I think we see Xavier Worthy
score rushing.
Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
I think no, I think Xavier is going to catch one. Okay, well, speaking.
Speaker 8 (01:18:15):
You said Kelsey there, Yeah, we do have an over
under for catches for mister Kelsey.
Speaker 4 (01:18:20):
Six and a half are going over under.
Speaker 8 (01:18:23):
I do.
Speaker 1 (01:18:24):
I think you know the theme of my prop bets.
I'm taking the over. Like I said, I'm hoping for
a crazy offensive game, and we know Kelsey is mahomes
favorite target. They have the most touchdown for a quarterback
pass catching do in playoff history, and they're going to
keep that going.
Speaker 3 (01:18:40):
Kelsey is the only Kansas City player I'm even considering
taking unders on that. I think that he's gonna have
a bad game. Six is a lot of catches for
a guy. I think that he ends up with a touchdown.
Five catches like sixty five yards, but again the touchdown
that seals the game.
Speaker 4 (01:18:55):
All right, Well, we talked about Kelsey.
Speaker 8 (01:18:57):
What about his girl, Oh you're under being shown on
TV six and a half.
Speaker 3 (01:19:05):
No, I'm squarely over because, yeah, all five Chelsea receptions
going into the half pregame six and a half.
Speaker 1 (01:19:12):
He anthem, They're gonna show her during the anthem. They're
gonna show it right before kickoff. They're gonna show her
dancing to Kendrick Lamar at halftime, and anytime they showed Travis,
they're gonna show Taylor after.
Speaker 2 (01:19:23):
It is a hard over.
Speaker 1 (01:19:25):
Plus, she's like top three selling points for a lot
of people watching this game.
Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
You got the game, you got Taylor Swift, Kendrick Lamar.
Speaker 3 (01:19:31):
Especially if it's from start of game to end the game.
Speaker 4 (01:19:34):
If you count pre game and all that, you will
catch us before the game kicks off. Yeah all right,
wait real quick. We got two more, but I'm gonna
cat packaging them together. We got color of gatorade and
the coin flip.
Speaker 2 (01:19:45):
I'm gonna go orange, and I'm gonna go heads.
Speaker 4 (01:19:48):
I'm going blue and tails.
Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
Thank you for spending your Saturday afternoon with us. Happy
super Bowl weekend. I hope you win all the money
and have all the fun.