Fox Football Sunday: Mike Harmon, Bucky Brooks, & Andy Furman Talk Super Bowl LIX, NFL HOF, and so Much More!

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Mike Harmon, Bucky Brooks, and Andy Furman bring you in-depth analysis of Super Bowl LIX! The trio breaks down the big game, examining every stat and angle while debating who will win and what each team’s game plan could be.

Next, they dive into the NFL Hall of Fame, taking a closer look at the voting process and debating whether there are inconsistencies with MVP winners.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
It doesn't get any better than this. Welcome in another
beautiful Fox Football Sunday, the last Sunday. No, you're not
changing your clocks yet, but the name change of the
show because it'll just I think, become, you know, just
a regular sports Sunday show once again. But today it
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To gravity of this date, the power of the seats
that we possess here this morning. From our technical producer

(00:49):
Mark to Shay over in the executive producer chair, the
big voice of Steve de Sega, reminding you of all
the good, bad and ugly going on in our sporting universe.
To my guy Bud Key Brooks over there at Bucky Brooks,
Andy Furman, a legend at Andy Fourman FSR, and your
humble leader of this ragtag group of mysfits ready to

(01:13):
take over the world. High on Mike Carmon, thanks for
being with us. Another super Sunday gentleman. Every year, I
pinched myself a little bit. All right, I don't sleep
really very well on these days, right because the gravitas.
What are you gonna wear?

Speaker 3 (01:27):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:28):
I did my usual. It's the Bear's pullover, some Travis
Matthews shoes and a knit cap. But you know what,
I'm not here for the fashion. I'm here for the football.
The conversation, had the fun and the revelry begins with
us this morning. Guys, it's good to be with you
so far. Are You're getting into a good lather here
breaking down the matchup and kind of go.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
Quick question, if I may, I heard Steve the Sega
top of the hour with the sports update.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:54):
I was wondering if any one of you guys ever
had groin tightness, because you said Anthony Davis had groin tightness.
Oh yeah, I mean you've had growin tightened. I just
bucky I you had groin tightness.

Speaker 5 (02:06):
Yeah, you can pull it.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
Look like I got it right now. That's why I'm
saying that I have groin tightening.

Speaker 5 (02:10):
The inactivity just looked like he he made a sudden
movement too fast. It's almost like pulling the hamstring. And
so immediately when he clutched the inside of his I
was like, oh, yeah, that's that's bad.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Right, he already had an abdominal injury that he was
that he was dealing with, missed five games.

Speaker 5 (02:28):
Yeah, over compensating for it, because it's all tied together.
When not to do an anatomy class, but when you
look at like the hip flexus and all those muscles,
how they wrap around to the lower abs. Deficient in
one area leads to a problem in another area.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
That's it.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
I want to hold Bucky bros Scotts so smart. No,
he's a tremendous athlete, play in the NFL for five years,
he's a writer, he's a scout, he's a personnel guy.
He's on TV's on radio, and he knows anatomy. I mean,
come on, you know when God gave out the brains,
he left me out and gave Bucket Brook's mind.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
Real.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
I mean, really, that's what it is. It's not fair.
It's okay, I'm jealous.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Well, I mean Bucky has an elite athlete as well,
something we didn't have at our disposal, and he necessarily
unless you wanted to harass your friends and family at
parties where I mean, he was going to the trainer
all the time, right, not necessarily because he was hurt,
but he's getting some pt, getting some you know, checkups
week to week, right, and maybe he just decided to

(03:29):
ask questions, Hey, why is that guy on that rack
over there? What's going on? And why is he screaming?
Those are questions you and I in a day to
day life. I mean, Mark Ramsey may sprain his finger
going to the board, but otherwise, you know, physically he's
standing in one spy. I think he's gonna be okay.
There's not really a lot of sudden movement he's got
to do. Whereas with Bucky, I mean, he's got guys
flying at him. He's got guys that were trying to tackle.

(03:51):
I don't know the equivalent of today is Derrick Henry
or Saquon Barkley, Right, I mean you know that, do
you How many times do we see guys make business
decisions Bucky Brooks when those guys are coming down the pipeline.

Speaker 5 (04:03):
I make a lot of them. You know, it's a
hard deal that you have to do with the physicality toughness,
the size everybody's not built for. Everyone thinks they're ready
until they have to be ready.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Now, I want to start this show by thanking a
very unlikely group of people. We're gonna see if we
can get Andy latherd.

Speaker 5 (04:21):
Up a little bit with this one. Oh.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
The last note in Steve De Sager's Top of the
Hour update talked about Mark Williams and the trade for
Dalton Connect being rescinded. I would like to thank the
NBA for the week of greatness that was leading to
the trade deadline, giving us superstars actually being dealt and

(04:46):
myriad superstars where we were questioning is he going to
be mad? Can he go play there? Is he going
to decide? Okay, that's okay, I'll go there. Last minute,
Kevin Durant's name was mentioned after the Luca Donches trade
last Saturday. Right that comes down Saturday night. Everybody immediately
was like, ooh, Lebron is that and that means like

(05:08):
all the shift happens now, And then he talked about
how happy he was and and no trade clause. I
would waive it if I wanted to go, by the way.
I do also love the Delicious Theater of ESPN moving
around a bunch of programming for the Laker game. Now,
they got forty five points from Austin Reeves, but they
didn't get Luca or and they didn't get Lebron as expected.

(05:31):
So kind of a laugh for there. But it saved
me from a week of an a chatter about legacy
and goat talk. So thank you, NBA, thank you very much.
Having with so many.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
Names, three names were evolved in the whole week. Jimmy Butler,
Luca and Ad. That was it.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
That was it?

Speaker 3 (05:50):
Right? What else?

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Darren Fox goes to San Antonio.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
The fifth The guy's failed at the seventh fourth.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
No, that's fine, that happened, But that happened on a
Saturday night, Right, that didn't happen Monday through Friday, when
I gotta fill four hours talking about the greatness that
is the sporting world, and I gotta listed all these
Laker haunts all over the place. This guy's gonna be
the greatest thing you've ever seen as a center when
he's on the court. Yeah, and then he fails to

(06:17):
physical so he goes back and you know that gets rescinded.
Whatever else? No, No, No, it was great because it
gave us an extra flavor on top of the festivities
in New Orleans.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
Well, I think it was a big, big gap between.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
NFL talk, super Bowl talk, and the NBA so called trades.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
Really it was weak.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Well what you did? Then tell me the written then
riddle me this. Then what was the big story from
super Bowl Week?

Speaker 4 (06:48):
Then, dude, doesn't have to be a big story. It's
the game itself, that's the story.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Well, we already had a week of that before everybody
showed up in New Orleans.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
Well, I mean, am I wrong? You're right? It's always
been that way, right, But so.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
For a week we talked about the ramifications of the trade.
Anthony Davis, who was reduced to a bum. He was
like a prelim guy at the beginning of a WWE
card that goes out and loses eighteen seconds. The way
everybody talked about him on his way out the door.
They didn't get anything for Luca, Like you were just
telling me a week ago, this guy's the top ten

(07:22):
player in the game. You're telling me how great he is,
and then you're dismissing you know, and the same.

Speaker 4 (07:29):
Thing is and you'll agree between today and the playoffs,
No one's going to talk about the NBA until playoffs start.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
There's the way it is. Well.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
But for the NBA, it's also a brilliant week because
for a week we didn't talk about how bad the
product was.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
They got away from that for a week.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
Yeah, and it has been bad. And you know, I'm
still waiting to hear from Adam Silver. I guess you
heard what I did because they were all complaining about
too many threes and I said this should be a
designated three point.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
Oh yeah, we talked about that last week.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
He never wrote me back. I'm waiting he.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Well and on his to a day and either either
you're getting a library built or you're gonna get a
cease and desist. Either way you get something to hang
on the wall or a lawsuit. Nah, now you'll get
a cease and desist. First, they'll just print one of
those out one of the many lawyers there on Park Avenue. Actually,
I kind of would like to see that, Andy, That

(08:18):
would be really cool. There would be a feather in
the cat.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
I think, I really, do you think somebody?

Speaker 5 (08:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (08:23):
I think so?

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Is he gonna do it like the like Stan? Dear Andy,
I love you. But all right, we got M and
M into the show. While we're at it, I know,
Kendrick Lamar, prop bets are everywhere. We got to do
have a little nugget for me and Rappaport this morning, fella.
It's a little little nfl H scuttle butt of the
possibility of the San Francisco forty nine ers potentially breaking

(08:47):
up with Deebo Samuel and sending him off into never
never Land. That's just interesting, right.

Speaker 4 (08:56):
It's time to break up the forty nine ers. I guess,
well then't you think?

Speaker 2 (09:00):
But just in general, right, the silly season has begun
a lot of shilling for product across radio row for
the week. But there's only two teams remaining. Everybody but
one team has filled their coaching vacancies. And we assume
that Kellen Moore has been predestined to be that guy,
for better or for worse. But he goes to he'll

(09:23):
go to that spot and we'll close that loop. But
right now, the other thirty teams are trying to figure
out what's next.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
Well, I will say this, you talk about the forty
nine ers. I watched that Thursday night Awards show and
that was very very impressed with the speech that George
Kittle gave.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
I thought it was very very professional. I like what
he did. The man of the people that was big.
I mean I didn't think he had it in him
to be honest.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Oh no, he's one of those guys that he's a man.
He's the people's champ, right. He's again big wrestling guy
too for what it's worth. But one of those guys
that you know, immunity wise, you know me leading the
tight end university man, anytime you can get a position
group together, Buck, I think you could agree with this

(10:08):
if you can suddenly have everybody decide that this is
a must go to event to try to learn from
each other and actually be one of the leaders to
open the door to hear's some tricks of the trade
I've learned. Man, that doesn't happen very often. I mean,
think about our business. We get together and in the
entire time side I was waiting for a guy to
shive you.

Speaker 4 (10:29):
But I will say this, you can go back and
say that you were happy that you had the NBA
deal to have somebody to talk about during the week,
the big conversation.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
I think that trumped everything this week.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
Was the Awards show and the fact that Lamar Jackson
I thought got screwed.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Well, when we got to Thursday, CM Barkley got screwed.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
It was stupid. I mean, the whole thing was ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
I do appreciate. Now we really get into the wheelhouse, Bucky,
you're thinking about the Montreal screw job, aren't you. Yeah,
Brad Hart, Michaels, everybody, Yeah, let's go to watch another
documentary before the kickoff and everything gets going on the
Fox pregame. But no, I mean once we got to Thursday,
then sure all bets were off between the Hall of Fame,

(11:13):
Jason Cole's going to join Bucky and I next hour.
He's a voter, he's in the room where it happens.
Gave us a little bit of insight the other night
joined Smith and I briefly. It's got to talk about
to change in the process. But the Hall of Fame,
we'll get to that in a couple of minutes here.
But from the award side of things, I'll ask this simply,
and I actually posted the grid up in the Twitter verse.

(11:35):
They're all offensive players, right, that win all these quarterback MVPs,
Yet year after year, they don't win Offensive Player of
the Year Saquon this year, Justin Jefferson in the past,
Cooper Cup in the past, Derrick Henry in the past,
they didn't win MVP. So why are we all complaining
about it this year? Why are we all mad this year?

Speaker 4 (11:56):
Well, I think he had a tumand this year, But
I think we knew going in as a quarterback trophy.
That's basically is is a quarterback trophy. But again, you're
talking about the trophies that were handed out, And I
talked about this Bucky early on Joe Burrow Comeback of
the Year. I mean really, I mean it's silly. I
mean it just it doesn't make any sense some of
these awards that they give out. I just assume they

(12:18):
don't even have the awards to be honest.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Ah, but what are we doing about him?

Speaker 4 (12:22):
And I mean, Sam Donald's a Comeback Player of the Year,
not Joe Burrow.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
It's all Abroad criterion, by their criterion, he wasn't available
like they had fifteen guys that voted for him. But
to your point, Bucky, what what did he really come
back from?

Speaker 4 (12:38):
And Joe Borrow came back injury and the fact that
he passed for forty nine hundred yards.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
I guess that's it.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
I mean, but then we played ten games last year.
But he actually did honey years ago.

Speaker 4 (12:47):
The guy who was laying on his couch in his
house and they're calling him back to play. But he
was a combat player of the year. When you come
back when no one expects you to do something, I
guess that's the comeback player.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
Of the year.

Speaker 4 (13:00):
When you come out of nowhere, as Sam Donald came
out of nowhere, he was on skid row with the Jets.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Well it's been a minute since he was on the Jets,
but well I do like that you drag the Jets.
I'll get some extra stuff in the mail for you
this week. Can't thank you, boy, Buggy. The comeback player
of the Year is one that drew some anks. I'm
just wondering if you know this wasn't a let's go
all biblical on a Sunday morning and if you're heading

(13:28):
to and from a service, say an extra one for us.
As I make this analogy, it's to split the baby
kind of thing.

Speaker 5 (13:35):
It was to split the baby kind of thing. And
I don't necessarily like it because it didn't really make sense.
It doesn't make sense that the MVP is second team
All Pro. It doesn't make sense if you're saying the
MVP is the best player in the league, why would
it be second team on the All Pro list, which
recognizes the best of the best. And so in doing that,
it just created a situation where it does feel like

(13:58):
a participation trophy. It does feel like, oh, look at little,
poor little Josh. Let's get a little Joshi something to
go home with, you know. And so Joshi went to
the State Fair and came home with a Teddy Bear.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
Let's get it. Because Lamar too.

Speaker 5 (14:14):
Like yeah, and so to me, it's just not it's
not how it should be, like if you're going to
do it. And I understand the narrative, but I say, like,
we on our side, that's what we do. About the
middle of the season, we start talking about Josh MVP.
He has those two games on national TV, the Rams
and the Lions, respectively, where he puts up crazy numbers
and dominates two teams that were favored. But it just

(14:38):
kind of became this thing that a was gonna be
Josh's thing, and we couldn't necessarily use the numbers to
validate it, So then we had to talk about him
doing more with less. Even though Dean Dawkins is a
Pro Bowler and I know we don't really care about
the Pro Bowl, but that's the only way we can
recognize all stars in our sport. Dean Dawkins was the
only other Pro Bowlers that he played with, and so
when you make that argument that he did more with less,

(15:00):
you can squint and see. Because no one thought Khalilshakur
would come out. Cam Coleman was young, Daal Kin Kid
and Dawson Knox have not had the impact that we expected.
So it has to be Josh being a one man show.
And in a way he has been, but another way
he's just been kind of on the mark. But it
wasn't his best season. That's the thing I think does disappoint.

(15:22):
It wasn't the best season that we've seen from him,
yet he won it.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
Yeah, I mean, look, we going back to my Offensive
Player of the Year discussion, right, if we're going to
do that, and we got to bring that into the mix.
Christian McCaffrey had an All World last year, Lamar didn't. Right,
if we're going to do the statistical thing, shouldn't Christian
have won it last year, Well he didn't. Yeah, and
every year. Right, here's Barkley. You know, last offensive players

(15:48):
of the Year Ready Barkley, McCaffrey, Jefferson Cup, Henry, Michael Thomas.
Last quarterback was twenty eighteen before that, Todd Gurley, Matt Ryan,
cam Newton, DeMarco Murray, Peyton Manning, go back, Adrian Peterson.
Then we get Breeze and Brady Chris Johnson. All I'm
saying is there's a bunch of running backs and wide

(16:08):
receivers that get their flowers there, but they're not eligible
for the MVP. So let's talk about what these awards
really are. And that's where for me. Look in the end,
you could have given it to all three guys if
you wanted to. I think from Philly, I would have said,
I'll send my vote in for the offensive line again,
again owing to the success guys like DeAndre Swift, Boston

(16:30):
Scott and others have had in that offense in the past.
No disrespect to Sakuon Barkley, but it's.

Speaker 5 (16:36):
Got to be disrespectful compared to Scott the Boston.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
But the point is no, no, obviously he's a much
better player but I'm saying Philadelphia has had success running
the football with a number of guys in the past,
and they've won a lot of games in the past. True,
I mean, that's not wrong. And Lamar last year won
thirteen games, and you bring up and you bring in
Derek Henry and I know they're supposed to be individual years,

(17:03):
but we're human beings. And the hardest part for me
for the AP versus the MVP is that you've got
the same people voting, Like that's the hardest that's the
part that doesn't make sense, like if they're two different
electing bodies. But do we have a clear, clear definition
of what MVP really means? Bucky, No, No, we don't, right,

(17:28):
But that's the point. It's like, so you can say, Okay, statistically,
Lamar's better over here, say nothing about a five touchdown
game against a hapless Giants team, say nothing about another
five touchdown game here, like we're doing that with Josh Allen,
and suddenly just saying, well, those two games account for
a quarter of his push those to the side. It's like, no, no,

(17:48):
we can't pick and choose.

Speaker 4 (17:50):
But not only did Lamar Jackson lose several votes in
the first place voting.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
He got a fourth place vote.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
Someone gave him a fourth place Well, somebody left off
the ballots, So I mean what I mean.

Speaker 5 (18:02):
That's that's also crazy too though, because I'm glad they
put everybody on blast. That was Jim Miller, former quarterback
of the Bears, who instills put the Bears.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
He yeah, Jims, Jim's got got some thoughts on worldview
and and all that, you know, kind of.

Speaker 5 (18:20):
Fourth place that that come on like like what like
what are we doing? Like all of that stuff.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
So there was that sounds to me like a personal thing.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
Well, but that also is how much weight did he
put on? Because I mean, the first eight weeks of
the year, Bucket, we were talking a lot about Derreck
Henry as an MVP candidate, weren't we.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (18:36):
I mean we were, yeah, I mean like he was
up there, I mean looking at nineteen hundred yards. I
mean he certainly that that also can't qualify. But the
difference is Derrick Henry didn't get any MVP votes. Like
if we're gonna split the baby in terms of that,
and you're gonna say the Baltimore Ravens success was heavily
influenced by what Derrick Henry did, then Derrick Henry's name
should have popped up on ballast. It wasn't. And so

(18:59):
that's the thing. And I don't really have an issue
with Josh Allen winning. I just think these things have
become more media narrative and fodder then really recognition for
the greatness that people display on the field. We decided
middle of the season that Josh Allen deserves to be
the MVP. We started talking about him people, you know,

(19:19):
they repeat what they hear, they regurgitate what they hear
on telecast and those things, and so it became Josh
Allen should be MVP, even though his numbers didn't make
it like that, because there were a number of games
where we had less than two hundred yards passing and
then his touchdowns. I mean, if we're gonna be honest,
like he had a bunch of one and two yard touchdowns,

(19:41):
you know, like that's cool. I am recognizing that he
did a lot with a team that wasn't expected to
not only win the division, but wasn't expected to make
a run. He did that, and so I'm okay with
him getting it. I just think it's disingenuous to name
one person first team All Pro, but then that same
person is not aimed MVP when his backup on the
All Pro team is. It's just illogical.

Speaker 4 (20:04):
And the stats this year we have been in the
two MVP years that he had at twenty nineteen and
twenty twenty three. Here's the major problem, not who won
the award, how they give the award. Because the MVP
award is voted on by fifty voters who were selected
by the Associated Press, But those same fifty voters vote
on the All Pro team. So if you want to
have two separate teams with two separate votes, have a

(20:25):
hundred people of fifty people on this board, have fifty
people on this board, you know, have the AP vote
for one and have the Pro Football ruters vote for
the other. That's all you gotta. Don't have to say
people voting for both.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Yeah, like I said, and they split the baby. It's
like it's the all right, And you didn't need a
lot of people to flip, right. I mean it, as
much as you know, you look at point gathering and
everything for the All Pro versus the versus the MVP vote,
it only took you know, a handful of people to
flip first place votes and you could say, well, they're

(20:56):
both gonna be served to a degree, right, depending on
what you like, right and what your narrative becomes as
how you frame a guy's career. Because Pro Bowls meant
a lot twenty five years ago. Now it's you show
up to the Pro Bowl games and maybe you hit
a target forty yards downfield, or you play some flag
football and a bunch of guys. Yeah, juice, Yeah, call

(21:20):
it the skill.

Speaker 5 (21:21):
No, yeah, but it is. But like I always think
about it, not necessarily in the game itself, right, because
people are mad because people won't play Pro Bowls with
the same vigor and zest that a regular season game
has played. But it's an exhibition game. It's an extra game.
No one is going to play hard and get hurt
in that game when it's going to impact free agent status,

(21:41):
long term contracts and those things. But where the Pro
Bowls matter is when it comes down to legacy and
coming off of the Hall of Fame stuff, when people
are beginning to build their resumes and support that MVP
matters for Josh Allen as he aims to have a
gold jacket having being a two time versus a three

(22:02):
time MVP matters when it comes to being Lamar Jackson
in that Hall of Fame. Vote Like, no, it doesn't
matter right now.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
It didn't help it.

Speaker 5 (22:11):
Like in twenty years it will matter.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Well, we'll get into Eli here in a minute, as
well as some of the other guys because snub was
one of the words of the week as well. Last thing,
let me just.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
Say one thing.

Speaker 4 (22:23):
You know you talk about you know, guys don't want
to put out that much in the Pro Bowl.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
Back in the day when the Pro Bowl was in Hawaii.

Speaker 4 (22:30):
When in Hawaii, okay, and people were making less money,
they put out. Then now they're making big money. They
don't even want to play in the game. I don't
get it. What's changed. They loved going to Hawaii and
they weren't making the kind of money they make it today,
and they played hard in that game.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
So what happened? What changed?

Speaker 5 (22:48):
Well, the longer they played hard because they weren't making
that much money. So their Pro Bowl bonus had a
significant impact. But if you're talking about people making fifty
million annually, a fifty thousand dollars bonus for the Pro Bowl,
it's not gonna be enough to really make them get
after it. Whereas when guys weren't making that much, and
you're talking about top of the line, because I think

(23:09):
quarterbacks were maybe at two or three million dollars. With
a fifty thousand is significant and so you play a
little harder for that. The money has changed everything. The
more money players, Yeah, the more money the players make,
the less likely they're going to risk themselves on. The
thing is risk versus reward. If I risk myself, my

(23:30):
reward is not great enough to make me fully put
out in a Pro Bowl game.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Not to mention, you just went through a longer season, right,
added games, added work, even if you've cut off some
of the front end, which is why we saw see
bad football by a lot of teams in September. Andy,
you might know a thing or two about that.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
There's a shot.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
Okay, well, you always bring up the Bengals. I'll do
it here for us. I mean, well, they would have
liked to have one of those Septembers back, Sure you do.
You asked me about the Bears every week this year.
I could have them play back the tape. Okay, well,
speaking by the way, it's the last thing though, Bucky,
just to finish point. You can also blame the Jets

(24:13):
for Josh Allen winning the MVP. If Aaron Rodgers and
company had actually done their job, the Bills would have
finished second or third in the division. And we're not
even having this debate. Bucky go ahead.

Speaker 5 (24:23):
Oh no, Speaking of Bears somber moment, Dick jurn from
a here coach to the Bears and the Buffalo Giles,
my former decordinated with jacksonanth Jaguars, passed away.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
The Bears.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Yeah that was a big year.

Speaker 5 (24:35):
Yeah, yeah, that I've ever been around in terms of
just like kind, compassionate, consider a great job of building
people up. Sad day for him, and then so it's
kind of a sad week for the Bears in general.
Virginia McCaskey passing away one.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
That's a hell of a run. And the last one or.

Speaker 5 (24:56):
Two before taking a knee.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
I'll take one O two. That's like a FM numbers
one O two.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
We're on some FM stations. Watch the ferret those out
and should give them a shout out this morning. The
last point Virginia mccassey, last football moment beating the Packers.
So good, good times there. But yeah, one hundred and
two years now, do you have a lot of It
was a pre show conversation Mark and I were having
about the Bears and well, what the direction of the

(25:22):
franchise is now, Like what kind of battle you get
behind the scenes that may have been brewing the will
right when you talk about legacy and succession plans and
whether you bring in private equity money or other partners
to try to get your stadium deal pushed through. Kevin
Warrens made some progress, but as we know, the wheels

(25:43):
of big city politics get bogged down a little bit,
and they're still trying to get.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
Into that Wayne move to Wayne, Indiana.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
We'll get that. I like that. Let's go, let's let's
create some chaos and then we could start talking about
the history of the NBA and everything. While we're at it.
Queen Pistons exactly there you go at Andy Verman FSRS.
Where you find and find Bucky over at Bucky Brooks
find me at Swollendome. Long start to the show. We'll
get into some of that Hall of Fame discussion. Yet,

(26:13):
ELI got a lot of the headlines, but are we
forgetting a couple of other folks. We'll talk about that
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No no takers on that one. All right, good, good enough?
Like carbon alongside Andy Furman, Bucky Brooks. I thought that
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(28:01):
things started as well for thirty teams already into the
silly season, figuring it out, but talking a lot about
the NFL honors, the MVP Award and trying to figure
out clarity and clarifications and continuity amongst people. And at
least here we get the names of people. They have
to tell us who they are major League Baseball for

(28:24):
the Baseball Hall of Fame. Did you guys see how
many people we don't know who they are seventy three
seventy three people voted on the Hall of Fame and
we have no idea who were, what they voted for,
or whether their family dog sent their stuff back. So
at least some level of accountability here now when it
comes to.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
The host, that good though. I mean, I'll tell you why.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
In this day and age, you know you have that
transparency and people know who's voting for whom you know
someone's going to send us with threatening leathers. I mean,
that's just the way. That's the society we live in today.
I mean, if I'm a voter and I'm the loan
voter who didn't vote for some one, I don't want
my name. Jim Miller probably getting some hate mail right now,

(29:04):
don't you think.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Well, Jim, Jim's well one, he's a big boy, and
he'll put his name on it. If I know Jim
at all, Like I worked with Jim a couple of
times years in the past. He's usually not one to
mince words, so he'll he'll go on his radio shows.
I'm sure he'll be on somewhere today or has been
already defending it or explaining it as it were. And

(29:27):
to your point, Andy, I agree with you. I mean,
look at what Nico Harrison and the folks in Dallas
are dealing with after trading Luka doncic right. It does
bring out the lunatic fringe.

Speaker 4 (29:36):
There's no tu the Mavericks want to give money back
to fans about returning money to ticket holders.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Yeah, so it was it was up to two thousand dollars.
So what they're saying is we can get other people
to fill the three hundred level that the city's big enough.
Because I did the math, on average, it's one hundred
and seventeen bucks a remaining home game for the two
thousand dollars maximum that was being reported. So you know,

(30:02):
that's a decent chunk of change.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
And you don't think that GM is getting some heat.
Oh no.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
But that's my point is that he is right. They've
had to have extra security reports of threats on him,
et cetera. So that point is well taken. But if
you're gonna put your vote out for something with that
level of substance, be it an MVP vote, be it
a hall of fame. To Bucky's point about what it
does for these people's lives, I tell you from being

(30:28):
in the collecting space forever, being able to put down
X time Pro Bowl, X time All Pro Hall of
Fame year. I mean, that's an extra hundred bucks the
signature added for the rest of your life.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
You know, it's funny you mentioned that.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
Because I'm a member of the College Football Writers and
the Pro Football Rights and I get the ballot. I
don't vote, and I tell him I don't think i'm qualified.
I don't see enough games, and I don't want to
put someone's future not in jeopardy. But it's not fast.
I don't vote on a lot of those deals. I
just don't. I don't think it's right because I haven't
seen enough games, and I really I don't want to

(31:04):
take the time to keep stats on every single deal.
So I write, I send the ballot back with little
notes say thank you so much. I still want to
remain a member, but I'm not a voting member, and
I can if I want to, but I just don't.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
I don't think it's right.

Speaker 5 (31:21):
Yeah, it's one of those things where, look, I'm glad
they put it out there. I think with voting members,
I think some of the names on the panel were
certainly interesting. Some of those guys were not I would
say full time NFL devotees. And so you look up
and they have a vote, You're like, okay.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
Just did right size of platform?

Speaker 5 (31:44):
Or yeah? Right, yeah, I mean friends of the program,
have you like membership has this privilege. It is it
is a very unique list. And at a time, and
we'll say this like, journalism is under attack. I don't
know how many true journalists were included in the MVP voting.

(32:05):
You know, Uh, it's just it's just it's just a
different time.

Speaker 4 (32:09):
Yeah, And so many journalists aren't permitted to vote because
if you write for the New York Times, and I
consider those people journalists, they're not permitted to vote.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
They can't vote anymore. That's part of the deal.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Well, and that and that's where we get into, right,
certain entities have said, hey, we're not participating in votes
like this, and then you have others where it's it's clear,
I mean, you're more an opinionist, and the journalism has
become a little jay or it's been erased altogether, and
it's journalism and showmanship above whatever the whatever the journalistic

(32:43):
ethics and creeds are. I mean, let's call it what
it is. From radio to television, et cetera. That line
has certainly been blurred in our space for a long
long time, right where guys have their personal and women
have their personal biases, people they've run into, and you
can tell me to your blue in the face if
you're a voter for those things that none, no, no,

(33:04):
none of that matters. We're humans again.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
I don't consider a.

Speaker 4 (33:07):
TV broadcaster, sportscaster, a journalist number one, number two. If
that guy goes into a locker room and he's being
shunned by an athlete, there's a real good chance he's
not going to vote for that guy when he's on
the ballot.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
That's just the way it is. It's human nature.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
Well, especially if you only have a certain number, like
for baseball, there's no it makes no sense because you
could vote for up to ten. So I mean, if
you can't get ten guys in your personal feelings really
taking on that deep dark path, that's a whole other thing.
But I guess the point I was trying to make
was like with seventy three not I get your point about,
you know, the fear of reprisal, little bit andy, But

(33:43):
there's also something too. I think you should be beholden
to put your name on it in this because it
does affect people's lives, It does affect people's money, how
they're looked at historically, and all of those things, you know,
and it's in in theory. You you got the vote
because you've shown the the ethics, the history, uh, et

(34:06):
cetera to have earned said vote. So why why would
you hide from who you voted for?

Speaker 4 (34:12):
Well, who's the one guy who did vote for Marianna
Rivera for the Baseball Hall of Fame?

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Well, Mariano got in unanimously. Jeter and Intro didn't.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
Yeah, okay, right.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
The intro thing is there was a parody account that
got some runs, so good on him on that, but
as of now they have not ferreted that one guy
out realistically, although Etro did say he'd love to sit
and have a drink with him to talk it out. So,
I mean, you got you got that. But but certainly
you know it's I get the volatility of it, and
some of it for your own protection, but the reality

(34:44):
is also, you know, because it does affect things in
a very real sense, and how history sees a lot
of these guys, uh that will we'll have those debates.
Uh and with that said, will continue by having said
debate Eli maybe Luke Keith, maybe there's a walrust like
coach that should have gotten in. Let's talk about those next.

(35:04):
Bucky Brooks, Andy Furman and me, Mike Carmon. This is
Fox Football Sunday.

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Speaker 3 (36:13):
Thanks for having us.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
Hey, no, it's a blessing, you know. We can we
get to talk about the game. We love the game
Bucky played. I mean, Andy, you and I still in
awestruck wonder of this guy, proficient worker x NFL player.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
I want BUCkies autograph.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
How much is it worth?

Speaker 2 (36:36):
That's a good question.

Speaker 5 (36:37):
How much is your to go?

Speaker 2 (36:40):
Gotta be worth a couple of bucks.

Speaker 3 (36:41):
Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
We gotta we gotta go. We gotta go scouting into
my emays say.

Speaker 4 (36:48):
For several teams that we go for those going with
those various markets and give a little extra cash like
in Green Bay and other markets.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
See, that's that's the way you go. And that's a
perfect segue for you there, Andy Furman talking about the
Hall of Fame An Alan, Alan, A Gates and a Sharp,
the law firm that goes in. Eric Allen and Jared
Allen find their way in Antonio Gates second year on
the ballot. I don't think anybody who had any issue
with him getting in last year seemed to be more

(37:15):
a substantive thing as related to maybe the ped test
that kept him out a year, right, the old hey
let's punish you kind of thanks Sterling sharp year nineteen
for him. Congratulations to Don Mkowski. He gets part of
that honor.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
Smallest class in twenty years.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
Well, they changed the voting rules, and this is where
it starts to get interesting. It's a little more restrictive.
Jason Cole joined us next Hour to talk about it
a little bit more, but in terms of those thresholds
from the fifteen and down that it's going to get squeezed,
which is interesting. So those guys that didn't make it
this year, they might be waiting a while. Eli Manning,

(37:54):
what did you guys think when it came out? So
strong feelings either way?

Speaker 5 (37:58):
Bucky, I don't think he's a Hall of Famer. I
respect the two rings, but he's not a Hall of Famer.
And no time doing his career did I ever feel
like he's a top five quarterback. And if you're not
a top five quarterback doing your era, how can you
be a goal jackie guy? The Hall of Famer is
for the elite of the elites. He wasn't elite enough.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Yikes.

Speaker 4 (38:17):
I changed my mind on that because I felt the
same way Bucket did for the longest time. And then
we've got the two rings and he has the demanding name.
But I looked at his stats. I mean, top ten
old time in passing and touchdowns and more than that.
You know, I understand that his record was just over
five hundred, but Dan Fouts was two games of a
five hundred and war and Moon was a game of
a five hundred. I think the two Super Bowl rings

(38:38):
mean something. I think he's a Hall of Famer Now,
I really do pass for fifty seven thousand aards. I
mean that's a lot of the yards and three in
the sixty six career touchdowns and never missed the game
in sixteen seasons.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
And you'll appreciate this. Some of the explanation is that
there was a lot of hand ringing and very vociferous
work by current Hall of Fame members to try to
make the pulling the electing body revisit their conversations. All right,
since we're gonna lose you here, in a minute, Andy,
your Super Bowl pick? Who's the MVP?

Speaker 4 (39:11):
Oh wow, Eagles are going to win it. I think
their quarterback Hurts will get the MVP.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
A little bit of Jalen Hurts love, which is fun
because a guy get into his second Super Bowl has
been like, you know, Anthony Davis getting traded to Dallas.
He's just a guy. At least that would be the
narrative that we've had here this last week. And Andy
Furman FSRS where you find him at Bucky Brooks. I'm
over at Swollen Dome. We're gonna continue the conversation as

(39:41):
we roll through. Revisit a little more of Saquon Barkley.
Does the line make the man vision versus the surroundings?
We'll do that as we continue next on Fox Football Sunday.
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up about it. I'm kind of sad, but also great
anticipation for what we're going to see later on today.

Speaker 5 (41:06):
Yeah. No, this would be a lot of fun. You know,
you have two of the best teams, and I will
say that two of the best teams should play in
the Super Bowl. And you have that, you have the
most talented team in the football in the National Football
League in Phildephia Eagles. You have the two time defending
champions and the Kansity Chiefs who have an opportunity to
go with three peet this is how it should go,
and so either team don't have a dog in the race.

(41:28):
I don't really care, but like, this should be a
lot of fun to see how this plays out.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
I just want entertainment and for the final four minutes
to matter and that I wake up tomorrow and it's
not people doing zibruder film on what could have been
a hold a hand inside a jersey or any of
that nonsense to where the officials can stay off and
never land. I know that's wishing and hoping, and that

(41:52):
means I've been watching a lot of Disney Princess movies again,
revisiting those with my teenage daughters as they wax poetically
about their younger years. But it's that kind of thing,
just hoping that we get great performances. In to your point,
you know I'm making and you and I trade the
wrestling references. It's it's kind of nice to see the
defending champ have to be knocked off on the biggest

(42:14):
stage by a team that from pillar to post we
look at having a great assembly of talent and a
coach that is perhaps the biggest enigma of it all.
Despite all the winning, there's still the whispers and maybe
it's the lunatic fringe, kind of like Ryan Day with
Ohio State Bucky. But the if he doesn't win and

(42:37):
Sirianni and the Eagles fall short, could the ownership do
something rash as he's going into the final year of
his deal. But a guy that feels like I'm not
a huge legacy tak guy. I like to let things
play out and let's see where the final chips are
and comparing eras or whatever. But Nick Sirianni a guy
when we talk about legacy making. Today seems to be

(42:59):
it for him.

Speaker 5 (43:01):
Yeah, lke, this is big. And once again we talked
about in the College Football Playoff the pressure on Ryan
Day and how would he respond. He responded by playing,
I would say, coaching his best yep, you know. And
so this is what we need to see from Nick Sirianne.
I've long believed that he's one of the best coaches
in the league. Just look at his rugger. He's won
over seventy percent of his game since taken over as

(43:22):
head coach. The thing that you always worry about with
Nick Sirianna and the Eagles emotional maturity. Can he keep
his emotions in check in the biggest moments of the
game to guide his team like a good leader does.
That's what you want, you want to see. But everything
that a good leader is supposed to do, he's already done.
They started off struggling, He fixed them. They were disappointing

(43:44):
last year. He got them back on track. He made
change the coordinated position to help get this offense and
defense to an elite level. He certainly has all the
qualities that you look for in a head coach. Is
just the emotional part of him, this personality that you
worry about.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
Yeah, and that's the curiosity right in those final moments,
the act like you've been there before, the old Barry
Sanders flipped the ball to the referee, now extended to
the coaching box and to your players for that to
that matter. But you know, we talked a little bit
last hour. And look, if you go into the MVP
odds in your in your betting channels, you basically have

(44:23):
it's a three man race, right, it's the two quarterbacks
and Saquon Barkley are the prohibitive favorites in terms of
where money's leaning. The amount of prop bet money being
put down on Saquon Barkley immense. Bill Krackenberger will break
that down for you next hour. Some of the numbers
are absolutely staggering, and the countdown to kickoff presented by
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(44:46):
stuff to help find the edge and get you that
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or maybe hit the the apps across the land. But
all of that to say, you know, when we look
at the setup Jalen hurts it guy who's kind of
been dismissed from me, I'm curious where he is physically Bucky.
I mean the two weeks obviously help, but how much

(45:07):
of a factor the knee is. I see the over
under for his rushing yard sitting at an ice robust
thirty seven and a half, which would lead me to
believe Vegas and whatever intel they've got things that he'll
be at full throttle to help compliment things in the offense.

Speaker 5 (45:23):
Yeah, I exped him to be at full speed. I
just fed him to be the same guy that he's
been in terms of being a dominant run it with
some big time potential to help you as a sidekick
to Saquon Barkley, It's gonna be really important that he
does utilize his athleticism and his running ability as the
chief trying and find a way to neutralize Saquon Barkley.

(45:43):
They gonna load to Lina Scrimmers. They're gonna blitz and
do those things. But the thing about blitzing is the
quarterback being unaccounted for in the run game. That is
a different thing. And do they utilize some of those
schemes that allow Jalen Hurts to be utilized in the
run game on read option, power read and some of
those other things. Yeah, it's a big game, but this
is part of what we like. We can talk about

(46:04):
the talent, but I love the tactics and the chess
match that we go see and Nick Sirian and his
company come up with an answer.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
Yeah, because I heard you and Andy as I was
driving in talking a little bit of trying to give
some love the defensive coordinators and Smith laughs at me
all the time. He's like, all you talk about is
offensive lines and defensive players. When we start breaking this
stuff down, like everybody else does, the Mahome stuff, everybody
else talks about AJ Brown and Travis Kelsey Kelsey fourteen

(46:32):
to one for your MVP. We went off the grid.
We basically said, well, we've got to take long shots.
So Kansas City having issues defending the tight end, So
Dallas Goddard getting a little bit of love in that regard.
For me, I went defensively thinking that it was going
to take a big Spagnolo call and a play from
Jones or Carl loftis to help seal things. Some of

(46:53):
that's being cute. I recognize it's kind of like the
MVP award we were talking about last hour of Oh,
the quarterback wins it unless something really crazy happens.

Speaker 5 (47:03):
I mean typically that is that is true unless it's
one where the quarterback puts up pedestrian numbers, and then
you look for anything like who's the one get who
can we give it to, who has the best stats
or whatever. But now it's gonna be a game where
the sidekicks really have to come through the stars, and
the stars they're gonna do what they do. But who
is the unlikely hero that's gonna step up and make
a play.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
Now, let's let's talk about it for a minute. Right
we went, We got into the MVP talk a little
bit last hour. Folks will be able to podcast that
when we're done with the show here, Shale'll get that
up and popping, because I think it's a fun discussion
and I think we did it more nuanced, right, not
a lot of like, as you say, no dog in
the fight, Like you're just trying to parse through and

(47:43):
weed through the noise to get there, and I think
some of it goes into trying to unpack some of
the numbers, right, And me, I love the big uglies
and on both sides, I've got a Casey Hampton Steelers
jersey to show you where I'm at in terms of
that stuff that someone gifted me many years ago. But
I have the you know, the offensive line for the
Eagles and the job that they do, and when we

(48:06):
see highlights, it's a lot of you know, big explosive runs.
Barkley gets the full credit, but make me smarter, Bucky,
like in terms of percentages when we when we break
through that and it's not a Hey, I had to
shuffle through and break through a couple of tackles and
I'm running to daylight. How much is vision versus scheme
and the execution up front? I mean, obviously the marriage

(48:27):
has to be there. I don't want to give anybody
short shrift and want to make sure we're recognizing Barkley,
Henry and those guys for the vision that they do
have while also paying tribute. It's that delicate balance.

Speaker 5 (48:39):
Yeah, it is that delicate balance, But you want to
give them credit. The offensive line certainly makes the game
easy for Sae Kwon Barkley. He frequently gets to the
line of scrimmage untouched. It reminds me of Emma Smith
back in the day when he played behind the Great
Wall of Dallas that so many times talk about. Yeah,
so many people will talk about Barry Sanders being a
better running back because Emma didn't have to do all

(49:01):
the work. It's very similar to this situation. You take
an A plus running back with an A plus offensive line,
they create problems, and however, you split the baby fifty
to fifty. When it comes to does the L line
deserve credit? We can give them that. The only thing
that I will say is Saquon Barkley enhances whatever they
get blocking so I have to play would normally get

(49:22):
you four to five yards. You give them credit, but
Saquon's ability to take into distance separate them from others well.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
And that's it, right, trying to find those lines of
demarcation and certainly the devaluation at least one thousand yard seasons.
I think we've done that when we keep adding games
and all, you know, just it's math. It's math, as
it were, and the splitting of workloads. So when we
do have workhorse tailbacks, I like to think that we

(49:50):
still celebrate them pretty well, even if you're not approaching
two thousand yards. But for Barkley, a magical season. For
Jalen Hurtzon company, you know, trying to pick up. And
it goes back to the Sirianni comment you made. I
think of last year second half disaster, right, it was
them and the Jaguars that got a lot of the
heat in twenty twenty three in terms of how the

(50:13):
season ended, and I think it was Sirianni got some help.
Although the noise in Philadelphia is certainly loud, no question
about it. This is a Super Bowl where a lot
of folks I know that are neutral like I hate
them both. I wish I had another option to watch
some other sporting event.

Speaker 5 (50:31):
I mean, people sound like they were walking up to
the election. At some point you got a root for
somebody like I did. Right, like the two teams. So
either you want to see a three peat or you
want to see the I can't even say the underdogs,
but the underdogs win that they looked at That's how
you fall. Either you respect the excellence that the Kansas

(50:52):
City Chiefs will displayed inn being a three time or
a three peat champion, or you look into the more
talented team to Eagles this. Do they have not only
the town to get it done, but do they have
the medal to knock out the champion? Because they always
say in these things, you got to knock out the champion.
You can't leave it to the cords. So can the
Eagles knock the Chiefs out? Something that we haven't seen

(51:15):
many teams be able to do.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
And that's the biggest point with when it comes to
all of the extra controversy and I put those in
air quotes as related to the Chiefs right, A lot
of oxygen into it. Roger Goodell addressed it. I think
he did a good job because the second part of
his comments related to the officials seems to have been forgotten,
but it just kind of threw out the Yeah, we

(51:37):
have to recognize the spotlights on and we have to
keep improving. Now. He didn't go deep into dives about
technology or all those other things like people were yelling
for after the AFC title game. But you know, you
have to acknowledge the elephant in the room of where
perception for some folks becomes reality, right, especially if you

(51:59):
go down a rabbit hole on any of the social
media platforms or your favorite talking head who likes to
go into the conspiracy theories, then you're going to stay
in that corner. So you have to acknowledge it's there
and then quickly give it a backhand with whatever data
you can. But if you leave it to the judges,
guess what, most of the time you're taking an l one.

Speaker 5 (52:22):
And that's why with those games in Kansas City, when
you're playing the Kans City Chiefs, you got to play
the game to win it, regardless of the score. Your
job is to keep stacking points because in your mind,
you have to know they're coming. You know they're coming.
Pat Mahomes is going to leading back. We've seen it
happen time and time again, so you got to keep playing.
You cannot take your foot off the gas. And let's

(52:43):
be honest because a lot of people, I think people
have to go back and look at the Zuer Bowl
from two years ago to really get an understanding that
Philadelphia was dominating the game until a turnover crack the
door open for the Kansaity Chiefs to work their way
back in it. Nick Bolden's scooping school were changed to
ten and the tone of the game because the look

(53:04):
the Eagles were teetering, uh, they had them on the
brink of blowing the game open, and that turnover did it.
So if you're the Eagles, you should step into this
game with a lot of confidence and just because like
it happened, the last game doesn't matter, but you should
have enough confidence to know that we can disband on
this team.

Speaker 4 (53:22):
Now.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
I wish they more attention paid to the game that
Hurts had and that offense did. To your point, I
mean turnovers, what is it seventy right win that battle
or maybe a little bit higher there. And as we
go through certainly the process. All right, last Saquon Barkley
for I'll just give you the prop that first carry
over under four and a half yards. Ooh, under stuffed

(53:47):
the bustings early.

Speaker 5 (53:49):
I think they're going to blitz them from the time
they get off the bus. This is a game we're
gonna see. When I was Agains the City, Guntha Cunning
him the late coordinator, Yeah, and he would talk about,
hey man, this is the week, suys and such as
to wear the big sombrero. This is Jalen Hurst's big
sombrero moment. If they're going to win, Jalen Hurst is

(54:10):
going to have to deliver as a passer. I don't
think there's any way that Spags is going to let
twenty six be the deciding factor in the game.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
Yeah. The over under for his longest rush of the
game is twenty four and a half yards, and his
total is fluctuated quite a bit. I've seen it as
low as one thirteen, seeing it all the way out
to one eighteen. So all that is to say is,
if you're going up and down the strip do your shopping,
you may find some variants in pricing along the way.

(54:39):
Really quickly, we've got Jason Cole coming up in just
a couple of minutes. Talk some of the Hall of
Fame voting, the process change, and some of the behind
the closed doors kind of conversation. Always good for that
with us thirty third team. He's been in the game
a long time, a lot of books. His l Way
book is one of my favorites. The stories he got
from mom and pop on all of that. I got

(55:01):
a couple of notes from Chicago, and we know people
change each hour. We bring on new affiliates. Wanted to
give you a chance. They loved what you had to
say about Dick Jeron and his memory and the leader
he was thirteen and three season for the Bears, two
thousand and one Coach of the Year, but a guy
you worked with and had the utmost respect for you.

(55:22):
Put it up on Twitter and gave us a little
snippet of that earlier. If you could revisit that for
a moment as to what he meant to your career
and the process for you.

Speaker 5 (55:32):
Yeah, so did. Jeron was my defensive coordinator with Jackson
with the Jaguars. I was just picked up off waivers after
being released from the Green Bay Packers. The Jaguars partially
picked me up because Jiran previously served as a defensive
backs coach for the Green Bay Packers and he had
a relationship with Bob Alacente and that team, and so
he knew about me. He also knew that I was

(55:52):
a project. You have to remember Jiran was an All
Pro member of the Detroit Lies, but he was a
guy who was a terrific running back eight Yale before
making conversion to defensive back. So he helped me learn
how to go from playing offense to defense. And one
of the things that he did is he encouraged me
to make mistakes in practice. And he would always say

(56:12):
that you never know what your boundaries are until you
push the limits in practice. And what practice is supposed
to do is allow you to know what you can
and what you can't do, and then in the game
you only put yourself in a position to do what
you can do. Before pro coach at the time where
everything hangs on the performance of young players to kind
of give me that freedom, man, it worked wonders for

(56:33):
me when it came to the career. And then he
also has so many other wise words. When he talked
about building championship teams. He talked about it because I've
said it on our show. He said, look, man, Bucky,
it never changed in any sport. You got to be
strong down the middle. He said. In baseball is catcher, pitcher, centerfielder,
second and shortstop. It never changed. Basketball, point guard, center,

(56:53):
he said, football is the same. And he just had
so much wisdom. For such a kind man to share,
that is one of those things that you always want
to pay it for it by being just as nice
to the people that you encounter and the young athletes
that you have an opportunity to.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
Mentor fantastic stuff at Bucky Brooks where you find him
at Big Play Football, in the Instagram world, check out
his columns NFL dot com, Foxsports dot Com. We're blessed
to have him with us each and every week. And yeah,
some of the tributes I've seen for Dick Jaron just
talking about the man as much as the football side.

(57:27):
Just always the great measure of where you're at. We
can all aspire to such things. We aspire for greatness
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(57:51):
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(58:57):
here on this fine morning. Effting our man Jason Cole
as we go this morning. Obviously a lot of moving
parts as you get into a super Sunday. Bucky Brooks
and We've talked a lot about matchup fun and excitement.
It is good to get down to brass tacks about
the game. You got a lot of peripheral stuff. Does

(59:19):
he or does any in Travis Kelcey and it's either
the is he going to propose or is he going
to retire? If they win the game. I would find
it hard to believe he walks away. I think you'd
get on a Rob Gronkowski kind of meal, wouldn't you
where you say, Hey, I'm the veteran. I'm not showing
up to training camp, but I'll see you guys along
the road.

Speaker 5 (59:40):
Yeah, I don't know. He's thirty five. He has a
lot of cash, ladies hot.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
I mean a lot of cash that keeps growing for sure.

Speaker 5 (59:48):
Yeah, he could go out as a three peat champion
that has never been done. I mean there are a
lot of things that would make it kind of like
a fairy tale ending, you know, Hollywood story. If he
goes out following a win, I don't know, man, Look,
I think it's his. I think also any we would
be willing to work with him to make it like

(01:00:08):
kind of doable if he wanted to come back. But
I don't know, Man thirty five, He's played a long
time and he has all the records. He goes down
as like one of the greatest of all time based
on the numbers, and based on numbers they would say
the greatest of all time. It's Look, it's a great
stud to be.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
In and a guy expected to play a huge role
for this Kansas City offense today. The over under a
lot of the betting props at that six and a
half reception sixty five plus receiving yards in the process
for it as well, Bucky, when we look at the
Kansas City offensive side of things, the death by a

(01:00:45):
thousand paper cuts is what it seems like. I pinned
a little bit in our discussion this week on the
return of Hollywood Brown. I know Xavier Worthy has a
healthy fifty five and a half tag on his over under.
Trying to right, you know, just not necessarily to tell
you how to bet or what to bet, but just
throwing out some of the lines that we do here

(01:01:08):
just to kind of show you what Vegas has put
up in terms of some of the simulation and numbers
and algorithms. But is this one where Patrick mahomes we're
going to look at Chiefs if they're in the W column.
We've got like eight or nine guys that have a
play a factor in that past game.

Speaker 5 (01:01:25):
I think so the big X factor is Hollywood Brown,
and Hollywood Brown is the X factor because before they
only had one guy that could be the vertical threat,
and that was zavierer Worthy. Now you put Hollywood Brown
on the field, you have two guys that can stretch
the field and create lanes for Travis Kelsey over in
the middle of the field. I don't believe it's coincidental
that they scored thirty plus points against the Buffalo Bills

(01:01:46):
with Hollywood Brown back in the lineup. They make you
defend every area of the field. Now that he is back,
it's a game changes and he could be the X
factor that we look back and say, hey, he was
the difference, whether it's based on his number or just
based on his ability to stretch the field and impact others.
He could be a big key in this game.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
See I dig that making me sound smarter. He's over
under for longest catch seventeen and a half yards.

Speaker 5 (01:02:13):
M I tacked over.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
So I'm thinking either a little slug o kind of
thing or maybe just a big pop suck up on
the line because they're going to try to force the
ball out of my home's hands early and maybe you
take a deep shot early.

Speaker 5 (01:02:27):
Yeah. No, I think it's funny because it could be anything,
but I expect him to take some shots early. Here's
the thing. No one has talked about this, right because
I think if they talked about it, I don't know
how many people feel good about making the Eagles to
pick Vic Fangio is against.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
Crazy, isn't it?

Speaker 5 (01:02:46):
Oh and eight? I mean that is some kind of
dominance that a one player has over a coordinator. And
here's the thing that we know about old people. It
is hard for them to change. Yeah, so he's done
something like if he hasn't done it in the first
eight games, what new trick is he gonna come up
with that he hasn't already tried. So that's the one

(01:03:07):
thing that gives me pause. Like, Hey, I know we're
saying that Philadelphia's better, but the coordinator can't slow down.
Pat Mahomes, that's an issue.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
Quote.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
If we win, I'll be one and eight. I'd still
hear it, Banjo said on Super Bowl Opening Night. Yeah,
muted opening night. This week again, with all the n
NBA trade talk for better or for worse, people were
kind of unhappy. Hey, look, NFL came and took Christmas
the NBA with the trade deadline. You actually had some

(01:03:39):
stuff of substance go down with some big names. By
the way, pat Riley still wins the week even though
he lost that Jimmy Butler stare down because he's now
allowing the NFL if the Chiefs win, they can license
three peat stuff. So he's gonna get paid because he's
got the trademark, copyright and everything on that. How you

(01:04:01):
like that?

Speaker 5 (01:04:01):
Business always business.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
Personal, It's always business. But it's just kind of funny. Right,
So Monday, we didn't We didn't get a lot of fireworks.
You had some stupid questions and and certainly you had
a couple of dopes who will remain nameless, going around
all the Chiefs players and asking about the officials and
who their favorite officials were and all of those things.
I do find it interesting. And this was a note
from that I found earlier in the week that based

(01:04:25):
on the grating the change of officials at such two
of them wouldn't have qualified in past years for the
Super Bowl. So interesting, one little extra wrinkle to things.

Speaker 5 (01:04:38):
Yeah, I would say this before everyone gets mad at
the officials. I got a former teammate, a college teammate,
and one of my buddies from the NFL, Mike Morton,
a long time officials getting this chance to officiate his
first Super Bowl. No kidding, so anytime. Yeah, So Mike Morton,
what is he is? He he's not a back. He's

(01:04:58):
back there with the I don't know the official title.
Maybe he's back to but he is. Yeah, he's doing
to mix. And Mike was a linebacker for four years
I think with the Raiders. We were together at North Carolina,
so we had a chance to play together a couple
of different spots. But he is a dentist by day
in an official by night. But he gets an opportunity
to officiate his first Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
All right, Well let's go. I'll cheer for him. See,
I'll go find my Rob Low NFL. I actually have
one of those Rob Low NFL hats. Smith decided he
was going to be a smart Alec and he gifted
me one of those one year. So maybe I'll wear
that to the Super Bowl party I go to later.
Who are you rooting for the NFL and in this
case the Zebras because I'm hoping that they remain. I

(01:05:43):
hope he does a fantastic job and gets his kudos
versus becoming the latest guy that folks want to get
after and rake over the Coles. But like we always
talk about, it comes with the business, like being on
air here at Fox Sports Radio or writing at Bucky
Brooks at Swollen Dome as we do so for Vic Fangio,
what's you got to do to get that w or

(01:06:04):
is it all really going to be the offense having
to win a shootout?

Speaker 5 (01:06:10):
No? I mean, look, I think he has to missive
mix up his looks. Normally in the past, when you
play Kansas City, you want to play zone. You want
to keep the ball in front, you want to see
if you can stop him and slow him down in
the red zone. I think there's still something to that,
depending on how they feel about the matchups early, you
mix them, Samanda Man. If you can cover them, you
can stay in it some. But it's really important that

(01:06:32):
you spin in the wheel. You cannot allow Patrick Mahomes
to get a bet on what you're doing. Diversity is
really key against him because once he locks in on
what you're doing, then he's going to change and kind
of attack the defense appropriately. So you want to keep
him guessing. But at the end of the day, because
you have so many young guys playing for the Eagles,
right you got Nolan Smith and Jayalen Carter who are young.

(01:06:53):
You got Quinyon Mitchell and Cooper dejen and some other
guys that are real young, you don't want to change
up a whole lot of what you've done to get
you to this point. And so it's about the execution
part of it. But for Fanjo it's a tough matchup,
but it's also tough for the Kencaidy Chiefs taking on
what the Eagles do offensively as well.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
It is fun to see the young guys get get
their due though, right and and come into what has
been fairly machine like. We talked about the Eagles and
their roster for the last several years as being among
the greats. Last year the coordinator changes, and then that
worked fine for about a half a season, and then
all the questions about malcontentedness, and even aj Brown a

(01:07:34):
couple of weeks ago taught with the book. Thing was
all right, what is that really born out of right?
Because normally we get those shots if you think of
guy's dissatisfied with things, those become part of a long
standing narrative. So that the fact that he'd done it
before must have been when they were winning. And he
talked openly about mental health and his struggles this week.

(01:07:56):
So that was one of the more powerful interactions that
we saw. If you miss that, check that out on
social media as well. But a guy who's been kind
of quiet in the playoffs thus far, and some wondering
how the Eagles get him on track and into the
offense early.

Speaker 5 (01:08:12):
Yeah, I mean, I think he's scripted. Within the first
fifteen players. You want to make sure you get them involved,
you get the ball in his hands, let them kind
of feel what it's like to get a taste of it,
and then you just go to work. This is one
where really, man, in anything like you probably scale back
on what you tend to do, so you guys can
play fast. This game is unlike any of the game.

(01:08:34):
These guys are going to be in the pressure, the urgency,
the finality of it all will lead them to be
super nervous and very very tight when it comes to
trying to get into it. As a coach, your job
is to make the game easy for them. So let's
do the day one stuff, the stuff that they've been
doing since the first day they walked in the OTAs.
Let them get comfortable, then ease them into it, and

(01:08:55):
then attack with some newer stuff. But right at the
beginning of the game, you want to make them comforable
because everyone's going to be full of the butterflies.

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
He's Bucky Brooks at Bucky Brooks where you find them,
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(01:09:26):
get the machine going, because even before this game kicks off,
thirty teams already in your offseason, trying to make your
squad better, and it'll give you great fodder for your
Super Bowl party. Printed out, bring one for everybody. Color
code them say. You get this team, you have to
figure out how to fix them. I don't know. I'm
trying to find it, find some other angles. Either that

(01:09:46):
or people are going to be watching the Fox pregame
show opposite the Puppy Bowl. So I'm trying to bring
it all back to the celebration of football, just like
our next guy does. It's our buddy, Isaac lowing Craft.
He's a fountain of informationation, a fountain of wisdom, a
man of great integrity. I think he still has the
big j on his journalism. Bucky, you gotta listen to

(01:10:09):
the whole show. It's our guy, Isaac. Wow Andron.

Speaker 6 (01:10:11):
Why not buy Happy Super Bowl Sunday fellow.

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
Hey, Bucky, can you give me a favor?

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:10:17):
I need you to text. I need you to text
your guy Mike Morton. I'm having a pain in my
upper bicuspid region. Can you ask him if he could
squeeze me in this afternoon?

Speaker 5 (01:10:30):
You want to sign impression, but I think you're gonna
have the first appointment on Monday morning. How about this?

Speaker 6 (01:10:35):
Okay, I'll take that. By the way, here's some Mike
Morton trivia for you. He and his wife parents have quadruplets. Whoa, yeah,
So after that, officiating in the Super Bowl is gonna
be That's easy, pretty easy.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
You can adjudicate things between the line at the line
of scrimmage pretty easy at stuff. This might be the
guy to figure out all those scrums. Bucky.

Speaker 5 (01:10:56):
I didn't know that he had quas.

Speaker 6 (01:10:58):
Yeah, Mike, so so his wife.

Speaker 3 (01:11:01):
His wife gave birth one.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
Day before he had to take his.

Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
Dental school exam.

Speaker 6 (01:11:10):
Okaya, before you want to talk about timing the timing
of the NFL A ESPN reporting that as anticipated, Eagles
offensive coordinator Kellen moorese said to be hired as the
new head coach of the New Orleans Saints NBA. Saturday night,
the Los Angeles Lakers announced that their trade with Charlotte
to acquire Mark Williams in exchange for Dalton connect has
been rescinded because of the Hornets failure to satisfy a

(01:11:32):
condition of the trade. Williams reportedly failed his physical and
you know, fellas for the proper perspective, on really anything.
The best source is Magic Johnson's tweet.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
Let's go the Magic Johnson Twitter game always the best.

Speaker 6 (01:11:48):
Last night, the Magic Man tweeted, quote, what a big
blow to the Lakers. The trade with the Hornets is
rescinded to the Mark Williams failed physical Unquote that I
excuse me at why Gotti responded quote thanks for the info,
Magic at braun got it comments and quote Magic, how

(01:12:13):
do you always tweet three hours after something happens?

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
Unquote?

Speaker 6 (01:12:18):
Don't stop tweeting Magic anyway. All the court Saturday night,
the Golden State Warriors one in Chicago, one thirty two
to one eleven. Jimmy Butler scored twenty five at his
Golden State debut in twenty nine minutes, seven of twelve
from the field, eleven of thirteen from the free throw line.
Steph Curry scored thirty four and tie to season high
with eight three pointers.

Speaker 2 (01:12:37):
Guys, back to you at Isaac loewen Kron where you
find him in the Twitter verse for all the latest news.
And if you have a dentist that does quick emergency work,
I load needs it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:50):
You know what.

Speaker 6 (01:12:51):
In other Super Bowl dentist news, Remember when Doug Williams
was the MVP of Super Bowl twenty two.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
He had to have an emergency root canal the day.

Speaker 6 (01:12:59):
Before, talking about you can't try this dentist trivia anywhere else.

Speaker 2 (01:13:03):
That also makes you feel pretty good going out and playing, though, Bucky,
if you if you had to have one of those, right,
I mean, that's you get the good stuff for that
for at least a week's time.

Speaker 5 (01:13:12):
Yeah. Yeah, you're nice and nice and light and ready
to go and attack today after you have some of that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:18):
Stuff, feeling free and loose. Thanks, Ilo, appreciate you, all right.
He's Bucky Brooks on Mike Harmon. We're here in the
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(01:13:38):
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winner circle, but also make you maybe a little more
astute observer of the game that you're watching based on
some of the numbers that are being proffered. And no
doubt they'll talk about the color of the gatorade. Kendrick
Lamar's first song and all of those things, the important bets, Bucky,
you know the ones that a lot of them that

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are offshore, because well you got perfect information. But certainly,
you know when we talk about the color of the gatorade,
it gets fun. You've got the lime, you know, the
traditional is the favorite in the clubhouse, and then we
get to some of the exotics. At fifteen to one,
Kendrick Lamar, how many superstars I know Shay and Bottom
Barrel betting had the number of outfit changes. I think

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that was at one and a half. So you got that, Yeah,
just one and a half.

Speaker 5 (01:15:28):
Yeah, one and a half. We did the bottom that
was that was the thing we bet on.

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
You know how many how many gets don't I don't think.

Speaker 5 (01:15:36):
I don't think rappers change as much. That's why it
one and a half is like tricky, Like it's different
if it's Usher or somebody else, because they're like dances,
they have a little more flamboyant like rappers just kind
of get up there and do your thing with your
white T shirt, like you don't do a whole lot.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
Yeah, trying to remember like in La right where we
had everybody up there, Eminem and Snoop and everybody did
they any of them go down into the trailer and
change in the middle of that set. Don't recall, I
was transfixed by what I was watching on the field,
So it was a lot going on. Yeah, I was
standing there because you know, one of the great secrets

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at the world that is so fine, I'll give it
to anybody that's going to travel out here, is on
the second and third levels, they've got a standing room only,
first come, first serve, baby. So it's a little marked
out section at the back end of those seating areas,
and as long as you can get there first, you
get to stand. So guess who had a fifty yard
line seat for the Super Bowl? All right, So I

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was standing the whole time. But I'm young and in
relatively decent shape. Knees were barking a little bit afterwards, Bucky.
But I got to watch that Super Bowl halftime show
live and in living color. So big win for me,
my big win.

Speaker 5 (01:16:50):
It was worth it with Denise.

Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:16:52):
No. And the best of it though, was coming out
of the game, because this is what we always talk about.
You and I have had this conversation for many years
at Fox Sports Radio. There's no promise that you're getting back,
and I just remember Bengals fans they were happy to
have participated because it was going to be the next decade. Plus.
I'm not doing this to shade our guy, Andy Ferman.
It's just a reminder. You know, a couple of years later,

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we've got the Eagles right back in this spot, and
we talked about it a little bit before. Nick Nick
Sirianni and the weight that is on his shoulders, Jalen Hurts.
You know, there's been so much on Barkley and so
many in the betting lines on Saquon Barkley that Jalen
Hurts kind of is a well, he's just kind of there. Defensively,
you get Brandon Graham back, so that helps in some

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of your rotations and to have a veteran savvy on
the defense for Philly. But you know, legacy plays all around.
We didn't get an official prediction from you, at least
as long as I've been on air. So I've got
the Eriza Butker difference making with the Chiefs winning this game.
What do you say?

Speaker 5 (01:17:54):
Oh, okay, so I'm gonna go with it. Phil Deppa Eagles.
I think I'm on record saying thirty one thirty. I
want to make sure I'm consistent right there.

Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
Okay, things.

Speaker 5 (01:18:03):
Look if it comes down to we seem as a
more talented team to Eagles of the most talented team.
But for them to win, it has to be a
clean game, minimal turnovers, penalties, kicking game errors. If they
take care of business there, they win. To me, the
only way Kansas City wins is if Philadelphia gifts them
opportunities and so. But we'll see though, because Kansas City

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has lived off of others mistakes it seems like for
the last two years, and we'll see if they can
continue to keep it going.

Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
Yeah, because I'm right there with you, I got a
thirty one twenty eight Kansas City win. Looking for a
big play either at Hollywood Brown or Xavier Worthy late
and then Butcker coming on to finish the deal. But
that we do get a thriller in New Orleans, hopefully
the lights stay on this time around. A lot of
pomp and circumstance and pageantry there president in attendance as

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the players. My daughters were keenly aware of the Super
Bowl week because that was the question going around the school. Halways,
Travis Kelcey and Patrick Mahomes' response is to being asked
about the arrival of President Trump that was the talking
point for the Super Bowl. I'm like, let me tell
you about x's and o's. Needless to say, Bucky they

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