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February 16, 2025 119 mins

Mark Willard and former NFL offensive tackle Ephraim Salaam open the show reacting to the NBA All-star festivities! LeBron James announced he wouldn't be participating... an hour before tipoff! The guys react in real time to the new tournament-style format as it unfolds. Later, they get into the Jets' decision to move on from Aaron Rodgers. Was it the right call? Is it time for Rodgers to call it a career? Draymond Green said with conviction that the Warriors are going to win the championship... Do Mark and Ephraim agree? Draymond also said he's already been offered the Warriors head coaching job after he retires.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You don't listening no Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Oh you left me for the super Bowl. So we
got things to talk about, we really do. We got
NFL stuff to talk about, and we will tonight. However,
we're right out about the start of the NBA All
Star Game. You're talking to two NBA heads, so we're
gonna dive into it right now.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Ephram Salaam. Good evening, and hello.

Speaker 4 (00:27):
How you doing?

Speaker 3 (00:28):
Man? Good evening? And hello, Hi, Hi, how you doing?

Speaker 4 (00:32):
Man good? How you doing?

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Hey? I missed you last week. I'm all right.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
I bet you can relate to this because you're a
human being. All human beings can relate to this. You
ever have one of those conversations where you're like, Okay,
good to see you, but it's probably time for me
to move on, and so you do that lean, you
know the lean, like I'm about to go this way
right right, man?

Speaker 4 (00:57):
You know what? Look hey, all right, as you as
you're walking out of the conversation, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
What I mean, right, like I'm about to go get
some food, or like I do the lean, which means
it's a social cue. It's not necessarily like mean spirited
at all. It's just like, hey, good catching up about
to bounce. So here's Maline to let you know I'm
about to go.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
I'm out.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Okay, here's the problem. Have you all noticed, whether they
mean to or not, how many NBA players are doing
that to us constantly, constantly, and they don't mean to.
They might have a good reason. The problem with the

(01:44):
NBA right now cause it's biggest name who happens to
be forty years old, just went and did it again
an hour ago, which is, I don't know if you
have a good reason to not participate, not play load man,
whatever the hell you want to call it on a
night in a night out.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
Basis, the message.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
You're sending your audience is we don't want to be here.
And you from Salam are very big in entertainment in
multiple facets. You played football, you host radio, you write,
you produce, you do all of these different things in entertainment.
And when you work in entertainment, when you tell your

(02:27):
audience we're not having any fun and we really don't
want to be here, what on earth does the audience do.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
Well? It depends Normally they tune out. But number one,
I'll say this speaking as a Laker fan who after
you know a fury of trades, and and this is
when the NBA season really starts, after trade deadline, after

(02:57):
All Star. They really keep records post those two things, right,
because that'll tell you who you are leading up into
the playoffs or to play in or whatever. Lebron James is,
you know, a Laker, and he is forty, and this
is his twenty first season and all of these things.

(03:20):
I didn't want him to play in the All Star
or whatever this is. I got you, So, okay, my man,
Rafael is a de Ray, it's my guy. I didn't
see the need for him to do that. I think
he needs to be rested and ready to go. Him

(03:42):
and Luca to carry this loge going down. This this
this final stretch, last twenty eight or so games, twenty
seven games, and so I'm okay with it. We've seen
stars not playing the All Star Game before. Now, at
least this tells us that this isn't Lebron James' last
year in the NBA, because it's no way he doesn't

(04:05):
play in his last All Star Game. Right, So at
least we got some information from him not suiting up
and playing. And look, I get it. At this point,
no one even knows what this thing is we're about
to see.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
I don't know what's about to happen yet, and yeah, and.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
So he's like, you know what, I think, I'm gonna
check it out. I'm gonna sit this one out and
see what happens, which I'm okay with. I really am.
Now all the talk about how to fix the game
and this and that and so on and so forth,
it's just easy. Just want to win and want the
other team not to win. That's how you fix the

(04:45):
All Star Game. You have to change the formats and
you don't have to do all of this heavy lifting.
Just don't want the other team to win. That's simple.
And if players don't do that, then cancel it because
why would they want If they don't care about the
All Star Game, why would they care about whatever this
is we're going to see for the first time.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
I agree, And we've got three hours for that because
I think that this conversation may or may not evolve
based on what we see see full tonight.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
If this is going to look better than last year.
I don't think it could look any worse. But I
also before we leave Lebron, I bet you know what
my next response is going.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
To be, because you can be cool with.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
The fact that he's sitting out, And you're right, we've
seen stars sit out All Star Games and Pro Bowls
and all of that before, but you know what, we
haven't really seen much of Somebody announced it an hour
before Tip, that's absurd, Like, I'm sorry, unless you really
pulled up lame this morning in your workout, unless that happened, which,

(05:51):
let's be real, bet it didn't, because the BET's going
to play next Friday when the Lakers start playing again.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
What on earth did you do?

Speaker 2 (06:02):
And again, Ephrom's none of this is ever like I
did a whole thing on Friday in the Bay Area.
With regard to Steph Curry not participating in the three
point contest, what a weird deal, Like it's in his
building and he didn't participate in the three point contest,
which takes no energy at all, Like literally takes none,

(06:25):
And so it's not even that. Look, they're Steph and Lebron.
They don't need to give more to the game than
they've already given. I'm not mad at them. I'm just
scratching my head because you're both entertainers and as a
global game.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
That they say it is. I don't understand how.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
You can continue to send this messaging to your customer.
We don't want to be here, like it would be
like you and me, who get to do.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
This for a living being my uh.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
I don't really like sports and Ephraim I played golf
today and I'm kind of tired. You know, could use
a shower, some time with the kids. I really wish
we didn't have to do this tonight.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
Oh my god. If I ever sound like that, I
hope the audience comes through.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Twitter and strangles me, like, come on, man, you can
skip or find different ways to do things without constantly
bombarding your audience with we don't care and we don't
want to do this.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
I just think it's very dangerous. Man.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
You keep telling the entertainment audience that you don't want
to do it, they'll say, neither do we.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
Yeah, I think you know. In terms of viewership for
the All Star Game, I mean it's been on the
steady decline. So they're talking.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
About but we're talking about more than the All Star Game.
We're talking about all the games.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
Well, what do't happen is what we do know, and
history shows us this now this second half of the season,
viewership picks up, right. NFL is going away, College is
winding down. It'll be in a tournament format, so there'll
be time and schedule of games. So the NBA for
baseball hasn't started yet, so the NBA viewership will pick

(08:28):
up it like it always does. Right, So you know,
you may not capture new fans, but you're going to
capture the fans. And of course with the new rights
deal and all of that, the game is going global.
So you got whole country stand up watching these games.

(08:49):
And you know what those numbers are. Remember y'all mean
when he was voted as a starter in the All
Star Game. It's hard to compete with a billion people
voting for one person, right, And that was before you
could probably even watch games in China legally. And so
now we're at a precipice where the NBA is becoming

(09:09):
a global brand more so than the NFL is trying
to do because they have global stars. The NFL does
not have global stars. And so all of France is
watching all of Serbia, all of you know, Slovenia, and
you know this is a global brand. All of this

(09:31):
matters when it comes to viewership, and so it's one
of those things where the NBA has been here before
in terms of we know when people are going to watch.
The NBA would rather Steph and Lebron be rested for
the second half of the season as well.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
It's interesting though, because I like you sound almost more
calm about this than they do themselves. Like Adam Silver
has been out everywhere talking about how luck we're in
embarrassed by last year's All Star Game.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
We know we need to switch it.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
We're embarrassed right now with the way people are consuming
this product. We're going to consider ten minute quarters. I mean,
he's been out in the public openly discussing the fact
that the NBA's popularity seems to be slipping. And so
I'm not going to argue what you're saying, which is
that more people might show up this time of year,

(10:23):
the games matter more and there's no football, and that's wonderful.
But I'm sort of looking more at the view from
ten thousand feet Ephraim, and I don't think that the
NBA is in perfect health number one and number two.
Even if it was, I'd still say what I'm saying.
Don't be an entertainer and tell your audience, yeah, really

(10:44):
not interested in being here, Like your job is fun,
Your job is amazing. Our job is fun. It's amazing.
I want to be here. I want to be here
talking this out with you for the next three hours.
It's fun to me. And if the audience can't pick
up on that, then I'm not.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
Doing a good job.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
And so this isn't even just Lebron skips the All
Star Game where there's load management here or there.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
I pointed it out. I'll give you another example, Steve Kerr.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
The other night, the Warriors lost kind of a squeaker
heartbreaker in Dallas, and for TV reasons, it was an
eight forty five local time tip.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
And this was on Wednesday night.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Thursday night they played in Houston, so they had to
finish their game at like eleven thirty at night in.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
Dallas, then get on a plane and we heard over
it all.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
It gonna be it's three in the morning when we
get to the hotel, and I don't know if any
of my veterans are going to be able to play
and all of this stuff.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
And I'm like, similar to you, Ephrom, Steve Kerr has
a point.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
I still don't think fans want to hear it, because
all that's happening is you're bombarding the fan with the
idea that we don't want.

Speaker 4 (11:57):
To play, right.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
Yeah, that's it, that's all they hear.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
I get your point. I get your point. And you know,
if you have a product, the last thing you want
to do is make people not want to see it
or or questioned if they should see it. But look,
the NBA is a war of attrition. It's eighty two games.

(12:25):
There's a lot at stake. There's a lot of movement
that happened, more so than ever before, I believe, and
that the size of these trades that happened this past
you know, three weeks leading up to the trade deadline
and into the All Star Game. So the excitement, just
think about this. The whole week of Super Bowl, all

(12:48):
people could talk about, whole week of leading up to
the game, all people could talk about was the NBA
and the trades that were made. That's pretty good. That's
pretty good, no doubt. They thought I thought they stole
Super Bowl. They did, and.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
So we talked about the Chiefs and the Eagles at all.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
And so with that, you now people want to see
all those trades and all those things, how do they
match what's going on, who's playing where and how they're playing.
And so that's where we are going into the second
half of the season. So I think the NBA this
year is in a good place because they did steal

(13:31):
that buzz. They did hijack the biggest moment in NFL
during the season, and it was hijacked. Now, I did
a lot of shows and did a lot of hits
and talked a lot of NBA and I played in
the Super Bowl, So it's a real thing. I think
the NBA has positioned itself to have a sensational second

(13:55):
half leading into the playoffs. And you know when you
have a marque player moved to a Marquee brand man,
you know, and so a lot of new faces, not
of new places, a lot of old faces trying to
figure out stay relevant. I'm excited about it. I think
the fans are excited about it. And so we're gonna

(14:17):
We're gonna buckle up and see how this think ask
for this game. This game was already lost no matter what.
So whether Lebron played or anybody played, the people who
were gonna watch, we're gonna watch. They weren't watching for Lebron.
They were watching to see what this new format is
and if it's not good, they'll go turn to something else.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yeah, although I would argue that format looks a lot
lesser without him, But maybe that's not even the real
thing we should be discussing. In fact, Draymond Green just
made two very big statements on TNT within the last
hour and a half, and one of them was directed
at Lebron. We'll let you know exactly what that is.
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Speaker 3 (15:06):
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from Salam So it really wasn't just Draymond Green. I
mean it was a whole list.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
Quote.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
I think Brown could have helped somebody else out and
said this earlier, Vince Carter and I quote, there are
a lot of guys who are worthy. Jalen Rose quote
he took a roster spot from somebody. If you're just
joining us. Lebron James will not participate in the All
Star Game and just announced it about an hour and

(16:22):
a half ago. And that's the response of the NBA media.
Some of them are still active players, some of them
are his good friends. I mean, for me, that's the
one that's a total head scratcher and really kind of
indefensible unless something awful happen this morning. I don't understand

(16:43):
how Lebron James can back out of the Sports Global celebration,
and furthermore, how he can do it literally a handful
of minutes before it starts.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
I don't get it.

Speaker 4 (16:56):
Yeah, I would have liked him to, you know, maybe
do it, you know Friday, that would have been great.
But I'm not mad that he did. So that's what
I get it. I get it as a Laker fan.
I'm with you where I'm like, I really don't.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
I don't need my favorite players performing outside of the
games that matter to me the most. I fully understand that.
But the part about the part about announcing it just
this afternoon.

Speaker 4 (17:25):
That's that's wild unacceptable, unacceptable. But like I said, okay,
you can't even you can't even take your glasses off
because we did some things. Uh, you know, this thing

(17:45):
might shake out a little bit before it So you
think you think you think in the hut, don't you. Yeah, man, Yeah,
so we'll see. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
I got you. I got you what I'm coming from.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
I like our chances given Anthony Davis being hurt for
guy knows, I don't remember he had injured that that
abdominal muscle, the trainer or the abductor prior to the trade,
so that, you know, I would have felt a lot

(18:18):
less optimistic if that was the even though the Lakers
were playing extremely well without him, I'll just throw that
out there. They were rolls.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
And and and I'm not gonna, like, you know, start
making judgments about this. I think Lucas played what two games,
and uh and one of them was a double digit
loss to the Jazz. Like I don't I don't know
with that whole the smaller trade for Williams that got overturned.

Speaker 4 (18:47):
I just.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
I still don't know who's who's protecting the rim for
the Lakers. I wonder like star power, Yes, the Western
Conference fell a certain way.

Speaker 4 (18:59):
I think, is anybody go inside anymore?

Speaker 3 (19:04):
I mean, if you if you let him.

Speaker 4 (19:06):
Yeah. But look, but what I'm really saying is in
today's NBA, well we're we're hyper critical on the amount
of three pointers being shot. When you talk about rim protector,
is it like, well, other team outside of Memphis has

(19:27):
a rim protector in the West.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
Well, I would like even though he's not.

Speaker 4 (19:35):
You can't say I can't see, don't do it.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
I'm gonna say. I was gonna say Denver.

Speaker 4 (19:41):
He's not even in the key on defense? No, no, Chotte.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Hey, those are and I know you mentioned only the
West those not being the only ones who matter. Boston
Cleveland are phenomenal defense.

Speaker 4 (19:56):
Yeah, but if we get there, then we've done with
If we there, then we got right. So that and
then you get a finals Lebron and the finals Luca
NBA Finals, those are two different animals. I don't care
who you got protecting the rim.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Right, But but like, I don't know why you dismiss
Oklahoma City like that is that's the best defensive team.

Speaker 4 (20:19):
Yes, they in the NBA, right, They're not protecting the
rim because it's not what's his name, Hogm, it's not
Chet Hungram.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
Well, no, no, no, no no, and he just got
back anyway.

Speaker 4 (20:36):
Yes, got back.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
They've amassed a wonderful defensive rating without it, they.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
Don't even do centers anymore. They just just positionless. Yeah, basketball,
But I I get what you're saying because Anthony Davis
is such a huge defensive end offensive threat.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
And Houston is a very good defensive team, and right
now that might be who the Lakers see first.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
Yeah, well, I take that. I'll take I take that.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
I know you would and I would pick you in that,
But I just listen, every round is a different matchup,
and you are.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
If you don't offer.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Anything down there, then yes, I think even in today's
day and age, teams will go down there if you
promise not to stop it.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
They will.

Speaker 4 (21:20):
Like my guy, Shannon Sharp says, Houston H town, I
don't care if you got h town, your town, my town,
small town, legas and five.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
Man feeling yourself for a team that.

Speaker 4 (21:36):
Look, I'm being I'm being getting with optimism. Okay, just
like when I look across my studio and I can
look in the window of the update uh area, he
has his own special update with drawn curtains and incense
and mood lighting, I'm being optimistic. So when I look

(21:57):
in there and I see him put those heads phones on,
that silky smooth buttery hair, ladies and gentlemen with the
update at thirty past the hour, the one and only
smooth vocals himself. That's mister Steven sv de Sega on

(22:21):
the quiet storm.

Speaker 6 (22:23):
By the way, that's not incense, that's just barbecue. Lebron
James is out tonight with the sore footed ankle. Named
the starter for a record twenty first straight year. You
won't see him on the court tonight, he said. At
the ankle, I was hoping it would feel a lot
better this morning.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
But it doesn't.

Speaker 6 (22:38):
But no, wasn't where I wanted it to be. End quote,
So no injury replacement. His team is short. Remember this
is each team with only eight players tonight. It's a
fourteen mini tournament for each game that's about to begin.
The winner is the first team to reach forty points.
By the way, Lebron James says, he hopes he'll be
available Wednesday, which is the lakers first game coming out

(22:59):
of the All Star Branks against Charlotte. Lakers have won
twelve of fifteen. The game that's about to begin in
the Bay Area is Kenny Smith's team against the one
drafted by Charles Barkley. Barkley has Nicola Jokic, Shay Gildos,
Alexander and others. Kenny has Anthony Edwards, Jalen Brunson and others.
So two semis and then a final at about ten

(23:20):
Eastern and that'll decide your NBA All Star Game tonight.
As for college hoops, on the men's side, Wichita State
in overtime upset number fourteen Memphis Top twenty five matchup
at Saint John's went to the home team Saint John's
thirteen and two in the Big East after beating Creyton
seventy nine seventy three. Twentyeth thrank Michigan won eighty six
eighty three at Ohio State and number twenty five. Maryland

(23:43):
was down four at the half, but still one against
Iowa one oh one to seventy five. Maryland starters scored
ninety five points in women's basketball. Well, we'll get to
it in a moment, but there was, let's just say,
a lopsided result.

Speaker 4 (23:56):
Today.

Speaker 6 (23:56):
We do have the Daytona five hundred going on on
Fox TV as we speak. There on lap one fifty
of the two hundred and fifty laps to go after
all the rain early in the race that lasted a few.

Speaker 4 (24:09):
Hours that delay.

Speaker 6 (24:10):
Bubba Wallace is in the lead, William Byron second, Ryan
Blaney third, Chase Elliott is currently in fourth again. NASCAR
the opening race of the Cup Series regular season on
Fox TV right now. Ludwig Oberg won the PGA event
in San Diego by one stroke. Scottie Scheffler finished third,
three shots back. Yankees DH Gen Carlos Stanton is uncertain

(24:34):
for opening day due to sore elbows. The team's first
full squad workout of spring training is on Monday. By
the way, Hockey's Four Nations Faceoff continues Monday in Boston.
And now to the women's hoops, because first off, we
had a game involving Vanderbilt where Mikayla Blake scored a
Division one women's freshman record of fifty five points today

(24:55):
in an overtime victory at Auburn ninety eight eighty eight.
She played all forty five minutes, and in late January
she scored fifty three points in a win at Florida.
A freshman, she was averaging twenty two points a game
coming into today. Vandy now six and six in the SEC,
and next Sunday it'll be hosting South Carolina, ranked fourth
in the country this week. A dominant program for years now,

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South Carolina had won seventy one straight home games until today,
it lost to seventh ranked Yukon eighty seven to fifty eight,
the largest road win for any Division I women's program
over a top five team since two thousand and nine. Goodness,
Connecticut had lost three straight against ranked opponents this year.

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That was actually tied for Yukon's longest set streak in
thirty years, but they led by twenty two. At the
half on the road today and blitz South Carolina back
to you.

Speaker 3 (25:50):
Thank you, Smooth smoll Steve Smostean appreciate you SV Yeah, yeah,
that was good. That was good.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
I hear that music every time we barbecue.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
I don't know about you. Is that not how it
works at your house?

Speaker 4 (26:06):
Man? Is this a half core game or a full
core game?

Speaker 3 (26:09):
Yeah? I don't even know. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
I mean, hey, can I share this with you that
you'll find this funny? I don't know how this is
gonna look. I'm gonna try to keep an open mind.
It's about to start. We'll let you know what we
think all of that. But the first commercial break, first
commercial break, bro, I rock upstairs because I got to
go to the refrigerator because that's what I do during
a break. So I head upstairs and my little man,

(26:33):
who's turning eleven on Tuesday, happy birthday. Yeah, yeah, he's
sitting there and he watching something on YouTube.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
I don't even know what it was.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
And I said, hey, aren't you I just wanna watch
the All Star game And he looks at me, He's like, well,
I mean, when's it start. And I'm like, well, they're
doing intros right now, so it's gonna start soon, a
little bit of a new form. He goes, yeah, I know,
I heard about the new format. He goes, Dad, they

(27:07):
don't try.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
That's it there, it is.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Like, and Adam Silver doesn't need to hear that from
me or or or my soon to be eleven year old.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
That's the deal. That's the deal.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
If you can't get starry eyed kids in on this,
then what are we doing?

Speaker 4 (27:32):
Wasting time?

Speaker 2 (27:34):
What are we doing? You know it's not for you
and me? It like the stars are out and I'm
telling you this right now. You want to you want
the NBA to really stop and listen because I've got
two boys who are huge sports fans. Actually my daughter
is too, but not so much. Like she loves football

(27:54):
but in the Pro Bowl doesn't even exist. So here's
what you need to know. The NBA All Star Game
is tonight and they couldn't give a rip, but you
know what, they do love and they will sit down
and watch and they will watch and they will watch
you know what, the Major League Baseball All Star Game?

Speaker 3 (28:14):
Really yes, yes, because.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
They're into the home run derby and The derby is
sort of like the Dunk Contest, if.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
You will, for the NBA.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
And you know who participates in the derby actual baseball players.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
They pull people from the rosters of actual baseball teams
who you've heard of mostly and then they hit home runs.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
It's crazy thought, just me thought it pointed out.

Speaker 4 (28:54):
Wow, yeah, I just never got into the baseball like
All Star because it's on a weekday.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
So it's kind of what you got against Tuesday.

Speaker 4 (29:07):
Man, it seems weird to put a festive occasion on
a Tuesday. Hm hmm, but I get it.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
My my son's birthdays on Tuesday. We're going to have
a wonderful time.

Speaker 4 (29:20):
When and when is it that baseball? When is the
All Star Game? Normally it's in July, in July. Yeah,
on a on a Tuesday in July. Yeah, it seems weird.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
On Monday is the home run Derby though, that's yeah, weird.

Speaker 4 (29:39):
That wouldn't fit on a Saturday, perhaps.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Well that's uh, that's when they're actually playing real games
on Saturdays. Yeah, yeah, that's you know, that's when people
are available to come out to the yard.

Speaker 4 (29:55):
Yeah, you know, plan a trips hard to plan a
trip during the week. Someone who has a regular job.
They want to come in poor take some of the
festivities got to take on Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
I'm gonna keep my mind wide open. But the early returns.

Speaker 4 (30:17):
It's not good. This looks this is awful. This is awful.
This is even worse.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
They are all this is worse.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Yes, they're watching each other score. It's already twelve to nine.

Speaker 4 (30:31):
We've already seen an ale oop to no One. It
wasn't anybody there bounds.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
The good news is I actually I can see one difference.
I don't know if this counts to you, but Nicola
Jokicic is out there on the floor right now, and he.

Speaker 4 (30:50):
Moved, Yeah, barely.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
I saw him.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Nobody did. Last year, he didn't move. He stood at
half court and watched it. He was eating popcorn last year.
This year, here I saw him move.

Speaker 4 (31:01):
Yeah he did. He actually had a layup. He did
a layup.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
Heh He even moved on defense, he faked like he
was gonna try to block a shot.

Speaker 4 (31:09):
Karl Anthony Towns with another thirty five foot three, Oh.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
God, seven, don't encourage that guy.

Speaker 4 (31:16):
No one's dunked to basketball yet But okay, well, at
least in the other at least in the other game
they were giving you know, highlight type dunks. Now it's
just highlight type threes. Look, when we come back from
this break, let's talk about the totality of All Star
weekend and how I feel about it.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
If you want to get loose on something, that's that's
what I do want to get all right, Okay, then
then right here in the tyrack dot com studios, that
is next with e from Salam, Mark Willard, Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Don't listen to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
Radio tyrack dot Com studios.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
We can't even play the Draymond Green cut fast enough
to keep up with whenever there's a new one. So
he said something about the Warriors, and then he said
something about a future job for him. We get to
all of it at the top of the hour in
these tyrock dot Com studios, Mark Willity from Salaam. But

(32:20):
right now, Ephraim, Yeah, you said you got something off
your chest or you got something on your chest.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
Don't think we should get off. We should get.

Speaker 4 (32:29):
Off just about the All Star weekend. And I'm sure
people have wax poetic and guys of our ilk and
our age. Remember when it was a glorious time to
watch stars competing, stars competing, and so over the years,
the dunk contest has suffered out, you know, a couple

(32:49):
of outliers in there, and so on and so forth,
and it became the skills competition. They need to burn
the whole thing down. That thing is just rubbish, accented
by the fact that Chris Paul, one of the oldest
players in the league, and Wimby, one of the youngest
players in the league, decided to want to cheat their
way through the skills competition, which just blew my mind,

(33:14):
and then argued when they got disqualified out of control.
But you know, the saving grace had been, I guess
the three point competition because that was really the only
real competition in terms of seeing a dynamic art form.

(33:34):
But the state of the NBA in the way games
are played now, I was watching the three point competition
and didn't care because I'm so desensitized to the level
of threes and the amount of threes that are shot

(33:54):
in the NBA, where shooting three point shot was a specialty,
everybody shoots it now and so it's lost some of
its luster. When we get to the three point competition,
Boston shoots fifty a game average of fifty. Some games,

(34:19):
they shoot sixty some games they shoot seventy, which is
crazy talk. But what it's done is it's taken away
the dynamicness of what that was. And when Larry Bird

(34:40):
left a hand up right, you have guys who don't
start in the three point competition and it's like, oh, okay,
is this what we're here for? And shout out to
the only one Brights spot the last three years of

(35:02):
the Dunk Contest and he's not even on an NBA
roster for real. He makes more money in the Dunk
Contest than he's ever made actually playing basketball. And the
NBA should be a shame of themselves. So ball this
whole weekend up, including whatever this garbage is that we're

(35:23):
watching now, and throw it out the window. If you
don't have pride in your work, then don't do your work.
Announce the All Star All Star All Stars, and let
everybody go on vacation for six days and then come
back fresh, refreshed and ready to go. That's what I

(35:44):
would say. I would say that let everybody go take
a break so we can really hammer in coming down
the stretch of the NBA season. But doing this, nobody
wants to be We don't want to watch it, and
it literally is insulting to a fan of the sport.

(36:09):
Matt McClung is a three the only, the only three
time All Star Dunk Competition champion and he doesn't even
play in the NBA. Why and how did we get here?

Speaker 3 (36:32):
Yea, what are we doing?

Speaker 4 (36:33):
Thank you Lebron James. That's where it started, and that's
where I'm pointing to blame to. And this started when
a eighteen year old Lebron James didn't want to play
dunk in the Dunk Contest. A nineteen year old Lebron
a twenty leader. You know what to save the Dunk

(36:54):
Contest this year? If Lebron James was in it?

Speaker 3 (36:59):
Oh god, yes, but he's not gonna do that.

Speaker 4 (37:03):
Yeah, you know what else would have saved that? You
know what else would have saved it if Zion and
Jama Rent were in it or Jannis.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
Now hold up, uh do you call bs because this game,
as you know, this is in the bay. So we're
here and I've got some moles on the scene who
are telling me that tonight before the game. There was
a healthy bit of joking around, but that kind of

(37:31):
joking where you're like, I can't tell if they're serious
from some of the very big names in the sport
saying that they were going to be in the Dunk
Contest next year, and John was one of them.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
Jannis was another one.

Speaker 4 (37:46):
The NBA can solve this by just paying the players
to play it to be in the Thank You Listen Live,
Ja Moran a million dollars give whoever this is real, Tom,
this is.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
I am buying it.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
We had this conversation my partner Dan Dibbley and I
during the week in the Bay Area had this conversation, Uh,
just on Friday, you're telling me when we got that
news that all Steph Curry and Sabrina you ask it
fell through.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
Ah, they didn't want to do it, and people are like,
I can't believe they don't want to do it.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
I'm like, I can't believe the NBA didn't make them
do it by making them an offer they can't refuse
if they want. Caitlyn Clark and everyone's like, oh, Kaitlyn
wanted to do it in the WBD, does she What
about five million dollars.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
Caitlin, how about Now.

Speaker 4 (38:34):
I love how she did. Now I love if she's
stood on business. She's like, no, I'm not coming to
help you lead you help my league. My god, you
know what.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
You can love what she did, but the bottom line
is is there's no platform that would have ever been
bigger if you could have gotten n Escus, Steph, get
Caitlyn Clark, get another NBA player or two in there.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
Dame Lillard could have been in. He's from Oakland.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
He could be doing it in Oaklan, and while Steph's
doing it at Chase Center or whatever. Have them on
a split screen, like, where is the NBA's sense of entertainment?

Speaker 4 (39:08):
Here? Your money?

Speaker 3 (39:10):
Thank you?

Speaker 2 (39:11):
You're coming up with ideas. We're coming up with ideas.
Everybody's got ideas, and all it will do is cost
you money. And you've got a ton of it, Like
and everyone's like, oh, how do we fix this thing?

Speaker 3 (39:21):
Well?

Speaker 4 (39:22):
Duh million, very easy? A two million dollar UH prize
pot for the winner of the dunk contest. You have
all kinds of people.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
Right, and I know it bothers people when we put
money in.

Speaker 4 (39:37):
But they did.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
They did it for the NBA Cup.

Speaker 4 (39:41):
Well, that's exactly what they put the money in the bag.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
I don't get it. I don't get it, and they aren't.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Throwing out some other ideas, and coming up next hour,
we'll go through some of those ideas, see if they
sound any good. Plus this Draymond sound, we're gonna we
get to that coming up next as well.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
Oh, that's right.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
And there is plenty of post mortem NFL to get to.
But we're in the midst of the NBA All Star Game.
Reaction is flowing, comments are flowing.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
We're gonna get to all of it.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
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gonna get to the Draymond stuff, but hold everything from
Look when these teams were drafted, like a week ago,

(40:45):
shot Chuck Kenny. They're drafting all the teams and I'm like, okay,
Like if you're watching it unfold as it's happening, they're like, yeah,
you watch them make their selections and they all make
sense individually. Then it ends and you look at the
collective and I don't know if you did this, but
I did this.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
I looked at the collective and I went, oh, oh, I.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
See what you're doing. You didn't all just draft players
that you wanted. You just drafted the players that the
NBA told you to draft so that they can create
the right storyline so that Shack and Chuck, the two
biggest personalities on TNT, can both be the coaches when
we get to the end, and you will have an

(41:32):
interesting battle of young versus old. Shack's team has Steph
Lebron and kd. Chuck's team has Jokic, Shay, Gilgis, and Wemby.
It's also what the three biggest names for America versus
the three biggest names for the world except for Giannis.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
But you get my point.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
It was very easy to see to me that that's
where it was going.

Speaker 7 (42:01):
I was open minded to the idea that I was
wrong until I just watched Chuck's team play Kenny's team
and have Kenny's team lead for about two thirds of
the game.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
And then lo and behold, they got the turnover bug.
Wouldn't you know it?

Speaker 2 (42:18):
Wild Kenny's team got the turnover bug, but you know
what bug, they didn't catch the defense bug.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
So literally, when when Chuck's team needs one.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
More bucket to win, they buttoned up hard and watched
a guard run right all of them yep, oh laid him,
helped usher him up, lay up dunk ballgame.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
Chucks team moves on, give me a break.

Speaker 4 (42:52):
Yeah, this might be harder to watch because at least
in the previous iteration of the All Star Game, there
were a lot of dunks, lots of dunks, right, lobs

(43:13):
and guys were just it was basically a you know,
a layup line. Now it's just all threes.

Speaker 3 (43:19):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (43:20):
So I think it was like two dunks, maybe three
dunks in that entire however long that took. And so
now you've really taken the excitement of at least seeing
somebody dunk. I mean, everybody can shoot, And I'm saying
everybody can shoot, like not everybody in the world can
dunk a basketball, but everybody can shoot, whether you make

(43:44):
it or not, that's what I mean. So I'm like, Okay,
now they've made it words to watch, and it's gonna
take forever.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Well, yeah, now we've got a break between games, and
actually we're watching something that might be one of the
more entertaining things, at least on paper, that I've seen
this weekend.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
And it's Dame.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
Lillard about five feet beyond the three point arc.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
Going against somebody named Jaren.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
It's just like a dude with glasses and a T
shirt and the game, right, can Jaren hit.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
One three before Dame hits three threes?

Speaker 2 (44:28):
Jaren is oh for two? Make him oh for three.
Dame has hit his first and so now Dame will
shoot again and he misses again. So Jaren's got at
least two more shots at one hundred g's. I gotta
admit it. From a cut into this.

Speaker 8 (44:49):
Just hit it, oh, Jared, Yeah, yeah, Jaren, Jaren has
got to hit this one or else Dame is going
to have an opportunity to knock him out.

Speaker 4 (44:58):
Now, you know it would be great right here, You
just look at it, right right right before he shot this,
if the lights went off and Steph Curry ran out
there and was like, I got this for you now
right well there he is now yeah, yeah, like if

(45:22):
the lights went it all went off and no d
miss Jared's.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
Got another shot from God.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
Sharon's got a mullet and glasses and I'm sorry, I'm
into it.

Speaker 4 (45:35):
First of all, they shouldn't be shooting from the same spot.
Doesn't that That doesn't seem fair, does it, Sharon?

Speaker 3 (45:44):
Jared?

Speaker 4 (45:45):
Does it seem fair that Jared has to that Jared
has to shoot this from the same spot as Damian Lillard.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
He's only got to hit one two shots ago.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
You got it?

Speaker 4 (45:59):
Yeah, you got it, you got it, you got it.
He hit he picked up the magnet ball.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
No, Jared's just like a real NBA player. Now he
went one for eight and made und grand.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
Perfect man.

Speaker 4 (46:15):
Somebody sign somebody's in the room really like this would
be a good This wild be a good idea. They're
gonna love this one.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
When you pay money to be in the boardroom back
in November.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
All right, picture this. We're gonna get a little guy
with classes.

Speaker 4 (46:37):
Now they put him in the money pit and they
make it the rain in his head.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
Tell me this isn't the most entertaining.

Speaker 4 (46:45):
Moment of the nights is the most entertaining. It's sad
and entertaining at the same time.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
Jaren Jarring is He's one hundred thousand areas.

Speaker 4 (46:57):
That's real money too, that's real.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
Is Yeah, he's swimming in it and all the mascots.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
Are rubbing it all over his Buddha.

Speaker 4 (47:06):
About to have a skin rash when you get out
of there. The dirtiest thing on the planet Earth is money.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
I don't know. You've ever been to an amusement park?

Speaker 4 (47:15):
Hey man? Yeah, guess what? Guess what's that? An amusement park?
Money and everywhere else you don't want to put your
face or your hands.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Anyway, Shocker Chuck's team is in. Uh, you've got my prediction.
Shocks team is going to beat the Rising Stars. Just
my prediction, Aphraim.

Speaker 4 (47:39):
Yeah, that's a pretty good prediction.

Speaker 3 (47:40):
That's all. That's my prediction.

Speaker 4 (47:42):
So we really have to go through three two more
of those, two more.

Speaker 3 (47:46):
Of these, two more of these. Yeah, but wait to wait.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
Do you see what they're going to do in between
the next two?

Speaker 3 (47:54):
Yeah, yeah, that's right.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
Here's the Daytona for Yeah. I don't know, I think that.
Are they still waiting for the President to get around
the track?

Speaker 3 (48:09):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
No, he did, he did a laugh. He's going to
go to every major sporting event.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
For the rest of it.

Speaker 4 (48:15):
He's going to be the NBA All Star Game.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
He's like, we'll go to Daytona.

Speaker 4 (48:24):
Yeah, well little bit too.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Wait wait, the NBA All Star Game in San Francisco.

Speaker 4 (48:38):
Yeah, that's a tough sale right there.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
Well, speaking of a tough cell, apparently Draymond Green thinks
that the Warriors are now going to win it all.
Let's win I don't know, let's find out. This is
from TNT earlier today, here's day day.

Speaker 3 (48:57):
We're going to win the championship.

Speaker 5 (48:58):
Oh god, say that one more time than everybody.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
Because they added Jimmy Bullet a third.

Speaker 4 (49:05):
So I'm sorry. I said, I think we're gonna win
a championship, and I lie, we are going to win the.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
Champion Okay from so, tough break for you and your Lakers,
because there it is.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
That is that is ring number five for Draymond and
Steph m.

Speaker 4 (49:35):
That's not gonna work.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
Well we could use this to, like, I would love
to get your reassessment of the Western Conference with these
headlines now as reality. Okay, yes, number one Luca is
a Laker. Number two Anthony Davis is a Maverick.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
But hurt.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Number three, Jimmy Butler's a warrior. Number four, darreon Fox
is not on the Kings. Number five the Phoenix Suns
locker room has completely dissolved into air, and I think
I would add number six the Houston Rockets are starting

(50:25):
to look young, and number seven Chet Holmgren is back.

Speaker 3 (50:32):
So now give me your lay of the land in
the Western Conference.

Speaker 4 (50:36):
I'd say, Okay, see stays at the top.

Speaker 3 (50:41):
Well, that's it. I mean they have an eight game lead. Yes,
they're gonna be the one.

Speaker 4 (50:45):
But I think the Lakers can get themselves to two.

Speaker 3 (50:51):
Ooh, you think that they can pass Denver.

Speaker 4 (50:54):
I think they can pass Denver, the team that's won
eight in a row. Yep, I think they can.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
And they're the Nugget yep champions Jimpions little less.

Speaker 3 (51:05):
Than two years ago.

Speaker 4 (51:05):
Yeah, yep, I think.

Speaker 3 (51:08):
Damn dude, I get there. I can't. I can't dismiss it.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
But at the same time, I talked to you two
weeks ago tonight, right after this deal it happened, and
while you were excited, I think there was at least
a healthy bit of like, I wonder what this is
going to look like in the short term. Now, we've
seen very little of it. When we did see it,

(51:34):
they looked, Eh, they lost to the Jazz.

Speaker 4 (51:38):
Was any any game right before the All Star break? Good?

Speaker 3 (51:43):
I hear you, I hear you. That's fair.

Speaker 4 (51:46):
That weird Jazz by forty two nights prior a.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
Lot of weird stuff that week.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
There's no doubt the Minnesota Timberwolves lost a home game
against the Bucks, and Lillard and Giannis weren't playing, So yeah,
weird stuff.

Speaker 4 (51:59):
I'll gree checking out there. But prior to the checkout.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
But you're where is this level of optimism coming from?

Speaker 3 (52:08):
We haven't seen it yet.

Speaker 4 (52:09):
I know because, like I said, the way the Lakers
were playing without Anthony Davis, their actual defensive efficiency see rolls.
Because of having Drian Finney Smith now with the team
a little bit longer. Now having Vanderbilt back, now we

(52:33):
get Kyle Reddish back. These are all very long, six
to eight wing defenders in the league that loves to
shoot threes. So now the rotation defensively is on par
with being able to run people off the line, give

(52:55):
them tough contested shots and rebound. The thing I like
about Vanderbilt and it took him two years to be
ready to play. But okay, is he's one of the
few people that actively, no matter where he is on
the court, will go get a rebound. When you have
players that do things that no one does anymore, you

(53:17):
have an opportunity to separate yourself. And when you have
two of the most dynamic scores and facilitators with the ball.
I mean, we've seen Luca take his team into the
playoffs and deep into the playoffs. We've seen him and

(53:38):
Kyrie take the team to the conference, to the conference
finals and then to the NBA Finals just last year.
And so having that level of of of I mean
that is that's a tier quality. That's all NBA and

(53:59):
the back And so to me, now Austin Reeves can
be a three, right, a true three, and I love
that in terms of who we're counting on. He doesn't
have to be. He's not a true point guard. He
was just a Lakers point guard. And I said the

(54:20):
Lakers needed a point guard to shift Austin back over
to shooting guard. So now he won't have these long
droughts on these short threes because he's had to have
the ball in his hands so much. You do get tired.
You know that when you were creating. He doesn't have
to create for himself anymore. Luca is going to alleviate

(54:45):
a lot of that. And of course Lebron is playing
like a mad man. And so that is where my
optimism comes from.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Your list of teams in the West that could actually
end up in the finals is.

Speaker 4 (55:02):
I can see Lakers, I can see, I can see.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
Come on, man, it ain't that hard to come up
with a second one, Like good lord, I mean like,
come on, legitimize yourself, like come on.

Speaker 4 (55:20):
I can see. Okay, see, thank you, and maybe possibly
I can see Denver again.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
Just yes, that's it. That's your list list. Oh so
not the Warriors, No? What No, not the not the Grizzlies,
not the Timberwolves. Mm hmmm, not the Mavericks with a
healthy Anthony Davis.

Speaker 4 (55:50):
Uh, that's that's a bit much. Don't you think I'm
checking it?

Speaker 3 (55:54):
But like it was crazy last year and it happened.

Speaker 4 (55:57):
Yeah, but this is different and this made be a
result of last year.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
Huh. That sounds like a homer take to me.

Speaker 4 (56:07):
Uh duh. Look, if it's one thing, if it's one thing,
I am is I'm honest to a fault. Okay, it
sounds like it sounds like a homer, because I am
a homer.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
He said, I can see Lakers, and then it was
like fifteen seconds went by.

Speaker 4 (56:27):
Not quite.

Speaker 3 (56:27):
You can't even I can't even come up with a
second one. Mark, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (56:31):
I forgot who was actually in the Western Conference. I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (56:36):
Oh my guys, that was amazing.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
All right, all right, Draymond made another wild statement though,
and this one might.

Speaker 3 (56:43):
Be even more interesting.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
And we'll have that for you coming up next with
evrom Salama, Mark Willard.

Speaker 3 (56:48):
It's Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
Okay, these Arethetiereck dot Com Studios. Smooth Steve will be
here in five minutes. Let us know what's going on
on the Steph kd, Jason Tatum, James Harden lebron List
Team is is underway against the Rising Stars Abram.

Speaker 3 (57:14):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
Steph's already got five points and a seven to five
lead in this dramatic matchup.

Speaker 4 (57:23):
She keeps on past, see me bye.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
I hope somebody gave the script to the rising Stars.
Let him know they're not supposed to win.

Speaker 4 (57:39):
Well, we'll see what these old heads, as their call
can do. Don't connect connect floor baby got him back
in the fold.

Speaker 3 (57:50):
Yeah, I don't know if he's terribly happy.

Speaker 4 (57:52):
About it, don't matter. You better suck it up. Rookie.

Speaker 3 (57:58):
Remember when this happened to Lamarrow and he was.

Speaker 4 (58:00):
Like, yeah, but Lamorrow and they had won championships already.
You know, I got you. He's a rookie. They get
out of here with Dan struggling in the post, Kevin
Durant guarding him. What world are we living in?

Speaker 3 (58:18):
That was? That was a tough shot. That was a
tough look.

Speaker 4 (58:21):
Yeah, he all you had to do was just take
one power dribble and put Kevin Durant in the ram.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
I would like to get your reaction to this. This
was an interesting conversation as part of the build up
to the festivities tonight the NBA on T n T
and listen to the comparison that gets made and then
the conversation goes in a very surprising direction.

Speaker 3 (58:46):
Listen to this.

Speaker 6 (58:47):
There's no way that I could coach ever in the
history of w'd be like Draymond coaching, like the wow.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
Me.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
You're offering God state word.

Speaker 3 (58:59):
You didn't think you suck? I just don't you could
enjoy it? Did you catch what he said there in
the background.

Speaker 4 (59:09):
He already been offered the Golden Warriors coach, but he'd.

Speaker 3 (59:13):
Been offered the Warriors job.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
When I'm done, muh listen, I want to help everybody
out here with a little bit of expertise.

Speaker 3 (59:30):
The All Star Game is in the Bay Area.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
And that comment right there, that just became tomorrow's lead story.

Speaker 3 (59:40):
Promise.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
That just jumped everything that's going to happen this weekend.

Speaker 3 (59:48):
That just jumped it.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
Because the dynamic is this, The Warriors have set up
everybody's contracts to essentially align with Steph Curry. Steph Curry's
got two more years after this one. Jimmy Butler's now
got two more years after this one. Draymond technically has
an option year that goes a year longer. But whatever
that can dissolve into nothingness. And guess who else also

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aligned his extension with Steph Curry see Kerr And I
will tell you, as somebody who has him on my
show every week, when you listen to him talk, you
absolutely get the vibe that those two years will be it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
He not coaching the post Steph Warriors. So I guess
my first question to you is do you buy it?
Do you buy what?

Speaker 4 (01:00:42):
What?

Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
Draymond said.

Speaker 4 (01:00:43):
I'm sure they've talked about it. Sure, I'm sure. Now
I don't know if it was an official offer, but
I'm sure him and Steve were talking and it was like,
you know, Dre, you can coach this thing after you know,
when you're done two years ago.

Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
The man this, this man punched a teammate two years ago.

Speaker 4 (01:01:03):
Now he'll punch you. Uh, now he'll punch a player.

Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
You're gonna have him be the head coach.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Fan base in the Bay has a very unique relationship
with Draymond Green, very unique. I mean, this is a
four time champ who I'd argue for the fan base
would love to see go.

Speaker 4 (01:01:26):
Mmm.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
That's an interesting statement, that is, do you think he'd
be any good at it? M?

Speaker 4 (01:01:37):
I don't know if he has the right temperament. Now
he has the right basketball mind. One thousand agree, But
Tobby Bobby Knight temperament, it doesn't translate and especially doesn't
translate into pros that M. Pat Ryan, what was Ellen

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Everson's coach name? Brown? What was Larry Brown?

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
Larry K?

Speaker 4 (01:02:11):
Coach K?

Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
Yeah, yeah, Coach K had a little bit of that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
I don't even know if it's it doesn't work in
the pros, it doesn't work in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 4 (01:02:20):
No, no, no, no, no, right no.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
And and and and you can be mad at that,
but that's that's life. That's the I mean, I don't
know that. I don't know that young players. Although jeez,
you're not wrong about his mind. I wonder what if
he hired an assistant who was really good at calming
him down, somebody with a nickname like smooth.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
What if?

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
What if what if he called up Steve de Sega
and was like, you want to do this together.

Speaker 4 (01:02:53):
Hey, Steve, let's be smooth together.

Speaker 6 (01:02:59):
Oh yeah, Gottley might be available. Oh wow, yes that
is How about Danny Hurley. That's there's a cult attitude
on the sidelines. People are trying to get him, no doubt.

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Let's update things from San Francisco show. Oh lord, oh,
because the most exciting part of the NBA All Star
Game in the Bayer so far has been this when
Jaren out of the stands got to challenge Damian Lillard
for mister Beasts one hundred thousand dollars shooting from three
point range?

Speaker 3 (01:03:40):
Keep going, Oh my god.

Speaker 6 (01:03:50):
By far the most exciting thing that has happened on
the court there tonight. It's a fourteen mini tournaments. In
the first semi final, Team Charles Barkley won at four
th two. You see for each game tonight, the winner
is the first team to reach forty points. Team Chalk
shots seventy eight percent from the floor eighteen of twenty three.
Giannis did not play. Anthony Edwards did not play for

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Team Kenny Smith, apparently due to a groin injury. The
second semi final going on right now, Team Shack Up
seventeen fifteen on the Rising Stars who got into this
competition tonight by winning Friday's Rising Stars competition and advancing.
By the way, Shack's team that he drafted. The starting
five is Steph Curry, Damian Lillard, Kevin Durant, Jason Tatum,

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and James Harden and they had Anthony Davis as well,
but of course he's out now and so his injury
replacement is only Kyrie Irving, who's now gotten onto the court.
Lebron James was also on this team, but Lebron is
out tonight with a sore foot and ankle. He had
been named a starter for a record twenty first straight
year to men's college basketball ninth ranks. Saint John's beat

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nuber twe Creighton seventy nine seventy three. The Red Storm
thirteen and two in the Big East, seeking its first
regular season title since nineteen eighty six. They're now two
up on Creighton and the standings, which toass State in overtime,
beat number fourteen Memphis, Number twenty Michigan edged Ohio State,
and twenty fifth rank Maryland came back to beat Iowa

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New Mexico fourteen and one. In the Mountain West, defeated
Utah State eighty two to seventy nine. Lobos now two
games up. Women's basketball Number seven ranked Yukon destroyed South Carolina,
which was ranked fourth in the country this week eighty
seven fifty eight. South Carolina had won seventy one straight
home games, but on three pointers today it shot three
of seventeen, and a week ago, South Carolina had another

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streak snapped by Texas. That streak was fifty seven straight
conference wins in the regular season. Number six USC this
week had beaten number one UCLA tonight a scare form,
but USC has come up a winner at Washington sixty
nine sixty four after being down twelve of late in
the third quarter. UCLA is in action right now. Unfortunately,

(01:06:04):
their six foot seven center Lauren Betts is out with
a foot injury. Bruins are at home, leading second quarter
against number twenty two Michigan State twenty eight to twenty.
They're in the final apps of the Daytona five hundred
on Fox TV. They have yet to resume NASCAR overtime
coming up after a big wreck with roughly five to
ten laps to go, They're about to resume with Denny

(01:06:27):
Hamlin in the lead, Austin Syndric in second, Ludvid Oberg
won the PGA event in San Diego, and guys. Seven
more women have accused Ravens kicker Justin Tucker of sexual
misconduct at high end spas. The Baltimore Banner reported so
the new total is sixteen therapists from eight different spas
to make allegations of inappropriate behavior against Tucker. Reportedly from

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twenty twelve to twenty sixteen therapists from one spot said
they did not report his behavior to supervisors because they
feared they would lose their jobs.

Speaker 4 (01:07:01):
Back to you.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
Wow Stave, the saga everybody tyrack dot com Studios.

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
You think Justin Tucker has kicked his last kick?

Speaker 4 (01:07:12):
Yeah, I mean the way he was kicking anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:07:15):
But anyway, how many figured it out?

Speaker 4 (01:07:19):
During that magical update we saw Dalen Brown air ball
of three and come back with uh, ky, I mean
Kevin Durant air ball three foot hook shot. It's just uh,
it's a poor product. And you know, I'm gonna keep

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harping on it because we're talking about it. I mean,
it's on.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
Do you have any any ideas that that that sound
good to you?

Speaker 3 (01:07:53):
What about this? What about this the USA versus the
world thing?

Speaker 4 (01:07:56):
I love that. I love that. Never let it happen?
Why because if the world wins even one time.

Speaker 3 (01:08:04):
What's wrong with that?

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
It's a global game, That's what they're trumpeting all over
the place.

Speaker 4 (01:08:11):
Yeah, but they don't want that. That's why the Olympics,
Like it's like, you don't want to lose the gold
medal in the Olympics, which they almost did.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
I understand where you're coming from, but in an all
star format.

Speaker 4 (01:08:28):
But they don't want that smoke. They don't want that
smoke because what you're what they're going to find out
and what will be glaring is Oh, no, is there
are there more legitimate foreign All Stars than an American.
They're all Canada. They're all Canadian, right.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
No, I could give you your your starting lineup would
probably be and this is a big lineup, But I
mean your top five names are Shay, Luka, Jokic, Giannis,
and Wenby.

Speaker 4 (01:09:01):
My lord, what five do we have is gonna beat them?

Speaker 3 (01:09:05):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
I would argue that there's there's probably some Uh, you
put a pretty good lineup together, I think.

Speaker 3 (01:09:12):
Actually, I mean what.

Speaker 4 (01:09:15):
You're gonna have are are are six of the last
top three MVP candidates on the opposing team.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
By the way, those are also the top three scorers
in the NBA this year are Shay, Jannison, Jokich. But
are you telling me that that a team that's anchored
by Anthony Edwards, Jason Tatum, Jalen Brunts and Steph Curry,
Dame Lillard, Anthony Davis, Kate cutting him, Carl Anthony Towns,
Tyres Maxy Like what what they can't compete?

Speaker 4 (01:09:50):
No? No, no, really, yeah, I'm yes, hold on, Lebron,
So let me tell you this, Let me tell you this,
let me let me break it down for you. Remember
the Olympics. Remember the Olympics.

Speaker 3 (01:10:06):
I was there, Yes, but yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (01:10:09):
Was like, oh, okay, Paris money. Do you remember the
gold medal game?

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:10:16):
How many actual NBA players for France were on that team?

Speaker 3 (01:10:21):
Oh? I mean trivia question?

Speaker 4 (01:10:23):
Well like at the time too. And then it became
three when the dude who was giving us business down
low is now playing for the seventy six ers. So
I say that to say that was America's greatest Wait
a minute, hold on, hold on, Yeah, the other international

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superstars were spread out all over the world. They were
all quarterbacking their own country's teams. So now we're going
to take all of those and com them onto one team, yes,
to play against the American team likes Yes, the NBA

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doesn't want to point that big of an arrow to
the lack of development on American young talent. They don't
want to do that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:20):
I don't I don't know if I buy this at all.

Speaker 4 (01:11:23):
I'm buying the heck out of it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
Listen to the names that I just threw out.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
You you're making it sound like the USA isn't developing players,
like their roster would be much deeper.

Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
I don't know if it's as glitzy at the top.

Speaker 4 (01:11:37):
But at a certain point the time is really the United.

Speaker 3 (01:11:40):
States is not struggling to name oh.

Speaker 4 (01:11:44):
No, no, no, but when you put it into a
game that benefits the way that you're The NBA is
adopting how Europe has been playing basketball forever.

Speaker 3 (01:11:56):
Yes, right, so.

Speaker 4 (01:11:57):
They're adopting that style. The NBA was far too physical
for international players, far too physical. Tony Kukoch came over
and remember what Jordan and Scottie Pippen did to him
in the Olympics. Oh lord, yes, right, and so it
would remember what Kobe Bryant did to his own.

Speaker 3 (01:12:17):
Teammate to po Yes, yes, So now that.

Speaker 4 (01:12:22):
Would be the advantage of the US team. They're more physical,
they're more you know, all of these things. That is
no longer the case because now the game is being
played in a euro fashion type of basketball. That's why
the success of the seven foot the seven foot three

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international players shooting thirty five foot threes. Right, That's why
Jokic is the best player on the planet because he
does everything like That's not how American players are trained,
are learned to train. Those guys are being professional. Luca

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been professional since it was fourteen, right, Tony Tony. Tony
Parker was a fourteen year old point guard on the
French in the French League. So what I'm saying is
the development of the world's young talent is more conducive

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to the style of play the NBA is playing.

Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
Now, Okay, I like, even if I agree with everything
that you're saying, I just don't think it's that scary
of a proposition. If that if the World team won
the All Star Game, big deal, I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:13:40):
I don't think the NBA would be like, oh God,
that's embarrassing. I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:13:44):
If it's not, it should.

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
Be really, Yes, these are NBA players, we're here say.

Speaker 4 (01:13:52):
They're not like us. Okay, that's that's the whole point
of that. Do you do realize that, right? And you
can use that in any part of your life?

Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
And I have all right, not done with that conversation
because there's some other ideas that got thrown around at
the All Star practices and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (01:14:14):
But that'll be that'll be the way to make them
play hard. Yes, that'll be the way to make.

Speaker 3 (01:14:20):
Them Yes, yes, all right. More more ideas from Sala
Mark Weather, Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
Trying like hell to get one of these players on
Shacks team to make a bucket so they can move on.
And then finally they did, and I can't believe it.
Shas Team's gonna play Chucks team from.

Speaker 3 (01:14:44):
It's Oh man, you didn't, you didn't. You didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
You didn't see that coming, did you? Shacks team against
Chuck's team.

Speaker 3 (01:14:58):
It's not what I had in my bracket.

Speaker 4 (01:15:01):
But just looking at the fans in the stands, they're like,
what is that. There wasn't any cheering on that show. Nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
It was just like, yeah, no, if you if you
follow along with some of the reporters and the people
who are in the building, you know, they're kind of like,
I don't know how this is translating on TV, but
people are not into it.

Speaker 3 (01:15:31):
No, they're not into it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
Okay, So drawing board, what about what about.

Speaker 3 (01:15:39):
A one on one tournament King of the Hill?

Speaker 4 (01:15:43):
What about it's one on one?

Speaker 3 (01:15:45):
Well, how many all stars you get? About twenty four?

Speaker 4 (01:15:48):
Yeah, but you gotta remember the players are so skilled
in terms one on one wouldn't be like it is,
like you would think it is right because.

Speaker 3 (01:16:04):
You're probably right. I mean, if it.

Speaker 4 (01:16:06):
Wouldn't bring that level of excitement that you would hope
it would bring. It wouldn't be that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:15):
I don't know how you get around like what happens
when Shai Gilges is going against Jokich. Neither one of
them has any prayer in hell of stopping the other
one from scoring on any possession.

Speaker 3 (01:16:29):
Ever.

Speaker 4 (01:16:30):
Yeah, and so does that is that exciting? No?

Speaker 3 (01:16:34):
I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
Like I'm sitting here telling you that this is flat
out I don't know if the great answer exists for me,
the one we were just discussing is the best you
can do.

Speaker 3 (01:16:48):
You brought up a fair point.

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
I don't know if the NBA is as concerned about
what you're saying as maybe you think they are. But
I also can't tell you that they're not.

Speaker 4 (01:16:57):
The only way it is us versus the world. That's okay,
So let's do it. Because that you guarantee both sides
are gonna play hard. That's it. That's why the Olympics
are so great.

Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
Well, okay, when you say you guarantee it, can you yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:17:13):
You can?

Speaker 3 (01:17:14):
How so?

Speaker 4 (01:17:14):
Because because you like they're there. They're people, right, They're
people with Twitter accounts and and and brands and all
of that, and so if the US team would have
lost the Olympics, you don't think there would have been
some type of fallout.

Speaker 3 (01:17:31):
I think big time.

Speaker 2 (01:17:31):
But what I what I think is that this would
feel different than winning a silver medal if you came
in second place at the All Star Game. Because what
I what I see right now, what I see in
the NBA is that concern over health, Trump's everything, everything.

Speaker 4 (01:17:53):
Yeah, except for if the World team was like, we're
going to put it, We're going to give it to them.
Competition breeds competition. Yeah, both sides like, eh, it is
what it is, Then that's what you get. And that's
what the All Star Games has been for the last
five six years. But as soon as one team steps

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on the gas and then get stops and playing defense,
then your pride in your ego kicks in. That's what
being a professional athlete is.

Speaker 2 (01:18:22):
Well, and I'm with you there, I'm absolutely with you there,
But I just I don't know if it actually kicks in.
I'm not willing to guarantee it because I watch these
guys sit out games when their team absolutely needs it.
We watched Lebron James wait until an hour before tip
like I'm out.

Speaker 4 (01:18:41):
His team absolutely needed though, like whatever, right, seriously, this
is like whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:18:47):
And I think that would be too less so but still.

Speaker 4 (01:18:50):
So, No, I think there's a sense of pride in
terms of the same pride like I keep saying this,
but the same price you have when you're representing your
country in anything you do that is a real life
motivator in the country, Like you're going to lose to

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the world's All Stars in the US, the place where
basketball was invented.

Speaker 3 (01:19:20):
Sure, but right, so who's doing that? You play hard?
But do you play that hard?

Speaker 4 (01:19:26):
Yeah? You do. You win and you want to win
by a lot. I can promise you that. Oh so
they know.

Speaker 2 (01:19:32):
Look, if that's what you're saying, then let's ride. Then
you gotta do this. You got to do this right now.
More on that in our last hour, we'll get to
the NFL and Aaron Rodgers as well.

Speaker 1 (01:19:43):
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Game final in history, as Shacks team will take on
Chuck's team.

Speaker 3 (01:20:12):
As we get ready for that, aphram, I do.

Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
Not want to let tonight get away without a little
bit of a look back on the twenty twenty four
twenty twenty five NFL season that just came to an
end with the Philadelphia Eagles winning the Super Bowl. I
want to ask you about that game. Where the Chiefs
go from here, Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 3 (01:20:35):
I got a lot of things that I'd love to
hear you talk on.

Speaker 2 (01:20:38):
First off, what was your what was your reaction to
the game and the fact that, my man, it wasn't close.

Speaker 4 (01:20:45):
No, And I had stated in order for the Chiefs
to have a chance to win, they had, I mean,
excuse me, Philly to have a chance to win, they
had to blow them out. It couldn't have been. It
couldn't be a close game, especially coming into the fourth quarter.
And that was the approach they took. They took We're
gonna get after you. They knew they had the advantage

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offensive defensive line wise. They knew their offensive line was better,
and they knew their defensive line was better. And so
when you can rush for and create that level of havoc,
I don't care how good your quarterback is, you can

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render him useless. And the last Super Bowl Kansas City loss,
it was the same way. Tampa Bay had the same formula,
and so that's when Patrick Mahomes lost both of his tackles.
This year, they struggled with right tackle and their left

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tackle got hurt, so they moved their all World guard
out to play left tackle. And I can tell you this,
playing left tackle a national football league is not to
be trifle with. I did it for an extremely long time.
It is one of the most difficult positions to do
because so much hinges on just you being better than

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everyone else, and when you don't have that, it throws
every all the timing, all the everything off. So now
you rush four and you keep everybody else back, that's
seven in coverage. Good luck you can double two players offensively,

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and so we saw that, and we saw them consistently
get after them, put pressure on them, make them uncomfortable,
to the tune of one first down in the first half.

Speaker 2 (01:22:55):
Yeah, I don't know if it was one two no,
itthing it It was twenty three.

Speaker 4 (01:22:59):
Yards, Yeah, it was.

Speaker 3 (01:23:00):
It was one first twenty three yards.

Speaker 4 (01:23:04):
Yeah, combined, right, they didn't get that all on one drive.
It was combined. So yeah, they had one. They had
the first first down of their first drive. I think
the first play went for a first down. After that,
nothing for the whole half, and that is crazy, and

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so yeah, yess. I love the fact that they did
take away sakuon Barkley. But what that did was it
opened up a lot of other things. And they said, hey,
if Jalen Hurts is gonna beat us, he's gonna beat us.
And he did. He did in the air and he
did with his feet and you know, shout out to them.

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I was, I was, I was pleased. I would have
liked the better game, but you know, you're going in
the halftime it was it twenty seven or nothing or
something like that at halftime thirty one nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:24:01):
Twenty four ton But yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:24:04):
You know it was you know, it was exciting until
it was.

Speaker 2 (01:24:13):
The interesting dynamic I thought was this the Kansas City
Chiefs cannot play the role of David. They cannot play
the role of underdog because it's the Kansas City Chiefs.
The living is showing up there for a three p
but when you really dive into it, I thought that

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the majority of us were waiting for that exposing of
the Chiefs all year long, and we never got it.
We thought it was coming, We predicted it twelve different times.
There were at least five times where we thought we
were watching it. Raiders, Broncos, Panthers, whatever, I mean, weak

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teams that had the Chiefs dead to rights.

Speaker 3 (01:25:06):
And they never got them.

Speaker 2 (01:25:07):
And somewhere right around playoff time when you start throwing
the Bills and the Texans and all this at them.

Speaker 3 (01:25:14):
And they beat them too. I don't know about you,
but I gave up. I went, you know what, I'm
gonna stop predicting this. I was wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:25:23):
The Chiefs are amazing again. And as soon as I
gave up on it, they showed up in the Super
Bowl looked.

Speaker 3 (01:25:29):
Exactly the way I thought they were going to look
all year long, but never did.

Speaker 2 (01:25:33):
And so I don't know if it's fair to say, oh,
they actually weren't that good, because that was only one game.

Speaker 3 (01:25:41):
I guess I choose to do it this way.

Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
I want to give the Chiefs a ton of credit
because they overachieved.

Speaker 3 (01:25:49):
Yeah, they overachieved this year.

Speaker 2 (01:25:52):
And that's hard to say when it's a team that
goes to the Super Bowl every year, but they did.
There's no doubt in my mind they overchieved. So they
deserve credit for getting there. But I don't think that
the Eagles were the only team that given a neutral
field shot in two weeks to prepare. I don't think

(01:26:13):
that's the only team that would have beat them.

Speaker 4 (01:26:16):
No, I don't think so either. We've watched them skirt
the line and take advantage of others' mistakes. And when
you run up against the superior team outside of the
quarterback and coach head coach position, then yeah, you're going
to get what you get. And they didn't make mistakes.

(01:26:40):
They cashed in was one early turnover by Jalen Hurts.
They went and got it right back, and they took advantage.
They took advantage of a Chiefs team who found a
way to win the entire season largely due to their
defensive efforts. And they ran up against the juggernaut best

(01:27:02):
offensive line and in the game, best running back. It
just was. It was a masterful display of dominance. We're
going to impose our will on you. I believe the
games are won and lost in the trenches. I will
always believe that because I've been on teams where that's happened.

(01:27:26):
I told you, I've played in the game where we
had negative eight passing yards and one because they couldn't
stop us running the ball. That's a mindset and they
imposed their mindset and their will on Kansas City. And
there is a little bit of Super Bowl fatigue for
Kansas City. That's a lot of games to play back
to back to back to back to back to back

(01:27:47):
to back. Last five years, they played a lot of
football game more than anybody else, any other team, and
so you know, sometimes you get to that notion of
we're going to show up and you know we're gonna
win because we showed up. And I know they were
talking about that all the whole week off in Philly,

(01:28:09):
and they came out and they executed their game plan
that they put in flawlessly, and you know, the deserving
team won. There's a reason why no team has won
three in a row. It's one of the hardest things
to do on the planet Earth.

Speaker 2 (01:28:28):
Yep, Well, that leads us to this, and here's where
I'm gonna I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna run the
risk of being the big dummy, and I'm okay with it.

Speaker 3 (01:28:43):
I've been the big dummy before. I might be the
big dummy again.

Speaker 2 (01:28:48):
But the way that they come out of that, and
it's not Super Bowl hangover, that's a tired take. I
think that that applies to maybe some teams, not others.
The Chiefs have lost a Super before, they simply came
right back and started going to Super Bowls again. So
it's not a Super Bowl hangover. It's more circumstantial than situational.

(01:29:09):
I think two things. You're going to start getting players
who really really matter, Travis Kelsey being one of them,
who are I think going to leave the game.

Speaker 3 (01:29:20):
You also now have a blueprint that's put.

Speaker 2 (01:29:22):
In front of you in terms of how to beat
the Chiefs in the trenches. And you also have a
Chiefs team that's somewhere along the road. I can remember
not that many years ago, whoever the running back was
for the Chiefs and Andy Reid that was somebody I
wanted in fantasy in the top half of the first round.

(01:29:45):
This year, nobody in the running back position ran for
more than nine yards in the Super Bowl. I don't
know what the hell happened, but they lost. They lost
their run game, they lost what they used to do
out of the backfield. They lost guys that were amazing

(01:30:07):
combos of run and catch, and they were scotbacks and
they would throw different looks at you. And somehow this
fell all the way down to Pacheco and Hunt, who
are both like big rumblers at this point. And it
just doesn't look right. And I think that this Chiefs run,

(01:30:28):
my homes be damned like. They're not going to be
the big dogs next year. They're just not. That division
just got a lot better this year. Denver now has
to be dealt with. The Chargers are a playoff team
with Harbaugh.

Speaker 3 (01:30:48):
Yeah, I think they're done. I think this run is over.

Speaker 4 (01:30:56):
Is Andy Reid retiring?

Speaker 2 (01:30:58):
No, they're still going to be good. They're still gonna
be very well coached. They're still gonna have Patrick Mahomes.
I didn't say they're not a factor, but this whole
like home field advantage every year, Go ahead and pencil
them in for the Super Bowl. I just don't see
them as the best team in the AFC anymore. And
and the AFC also, I don't know that's another thing

(01:31:20):
that came out of this game.

Speaker 3 (01:31:22):
AFC lost a little bit of a shine, didn't it
a little bit?

Speaker 4 (01:31:25):
A little bit bet yeah, little bet Yeah. I think uh.
I think we were hyper focused on the quarterbacks and
the teams uh in the AFC, and you know there
are more market names on that side at the quarterback position,
and this has become a quarterback league. So everything points

(01:31:48):
to the quarterback and so now it's it's who can
be more physical. Remember we were talking about when is
that angel I'm gonna swing back to running backs. I
think we got that answer. I think it's now. I

(01:32:08):
think Austin gent is genty yeah, yeah, from Voicise State.
I think his value has skyrocketed. That's a real thing.
Teams are like, hey, man, if we get that kid,
then that's the beginning of our ability to wear teams down.

(01:32:36):
You get him, you get yourself a good guard. Right
free agency, you go get an all pro guard. Trey
Smith is about to reset the guard market from Kansas
City six round draft pick four years ago, one of
the top guards in the game, the seven w seventy

(01:32:58):
fifth paid guard. He's about to reset that market. So
there are gonna be a lot of teams looking to
bolster that line and bring a similance of a running game.
You have to you have to take a lot of
pressure off those receivers and those quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 (01:33:22):
That was the formula this year. That was the formula
this year.

Speaker 2 (01:33:25):
I mean Aaron Rodgers showed up with the Jets and
got all the receivers and how.

Speaker 3 (01:33:32):
We do it.

Speaker 2 (01:33:33):
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Speaker 3 (01:34:07):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:34:09):
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after we get off of the air. Where do you
want to see Aaron Rodgers play next year?

Speaker 4 (01:34:44):
Ah? Come on, man, I would probably say Oakland, Oakland.

Speaker 3 (01:34:56):
I don't even have it. They don't have any franchises.

Speaker 4 (01:35:00):
Excuse me, Las Vegas?

Speaker 3 (01:35:01):
You mean Vegas?

Speaker 4 (01:35:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:35:03):
Yeah, yeah, Las Vegas.

Speaker 2 (01:35:06):
I'm looking at the current odds for teams where Aaron
Rodgers would would end up. Las Vegas is the fourth
team at seven to one.

Speaker 4 (01:35:17):
Where is the first.

Speaker 2 (01:35:20):
At one to one? It is none other than who
do you think? San Francisco? No, it is the Pittsburgh Steelers.
The Pittsburgh Steelers, Yeah, followed by the San Francisco forty
nine Ers, followed by the New Orleans Saints, followed by
the Las Vegas Raiders. And then you start to get

(01:35:41):
into the field Seahawks, Browns, Giants, Titans, et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 3 (01:35:48):
Let me get this takeoff real quick, and then you
can go wherever you want with this.

Speaker 2 (01:35:52):
I think it is flipping the most hilarious thing in
the history of sports media that for a year and
a half now the world either doesn't believe the forty
nine ers or for some reason is hell bent on
attempting to change the forty nine ers mind, which allow

(01:36:13):
me to assure you won't happen. I'm not sure what
is going on. The Niners are literally out in the
streets telling everyone, Yeah, we're gonna pay rock. Fred Warner
is going to the Super Bowl, seemingly pleading with shows
to understand, YO, don't get it. We think he's the

(01:36:34):
guy we like. We think he's really good at quarterback.
And then there's that whole like he's been here for
less than three years and he's been to two title
games in a super Bowl. There's that put that resume aside.
But then just listen to us. We see him in
practice every day. We think he's really good. Is he perfect?

(01:36:54):
His name's not Josh Allen, but we really think he's good.
And we're not triggered by the numbers that are out
there in the quarterback market. That's what quarterbacks cost, and
we're thankful to have one. So we're gonna pay him,
and the world looks at him, and they look at
the forty nine ers and they go, I think Aaron
Rodgers is going to end up there next year. I

(01:37:14):
really do. It is the wildest thing I've ever seen.
If you have a microphone and you're still worried about
what Brock's gonna make or whether or not the forty
nine ers are convinced, you're screaming at a cloud.

Speaker 3 (01:37:28):
This thing's over.

Speaker 2 (01:37:30):
I will promise you right now on this show that
that contract is done pretty much as soon as contracts
can get done.

Speaker 3 (01:37:39):
It's gonna be quick, easy.

Speaker 2 (01:37:40):
Painless, and Brock Perdy is going to be the quarterback
for years to come in San Francisco. Whether Chris Simms,
Mike Florio or anyone else wants to listen, It's a wrap.

Speaker 4 (01:37:53):
As it should be, thank you, as it should be
for these people. I said this. Look, we were together
at the beginning of brock Perty's ride journey, YEP, and
we talked about it inbcessively every single Sunday night for years,

(01:38:18):
and so we saw very early, oh he's got it now.
To maintain that level of success for three straight years,
I mean, people were like, well, he's gonna go back
to the Super Bowl or the NF like, like the

(01:38:41):
NFC Championship Game for the third straight You're like for
that to happen on an aging team, You what quarterback
and their prime is doing that. And so if brock

(01:39:01):
Perty were a number one draft pick instead of the
very last pick in the draft, we wouldn't be having
this conversation because as much of a head scratcher it was.

(01:39:26):
When they paid Daniel Jones, it wasn't all of this
hollabaloo around it because he squeaked them into the playoffs
on the legs of Saquon Barkley. They chose to pay

(01:39:49):
him instead of Super Bowl champion Saquon Barkley. And so
but what I He was a first round draft pick.
So people were like, well, they gotta pay him. He's
making forty five Well, he was making forty five million
dollars a year. Rubbish, rubbish. Blake Bortles huh huh, got

(01:40:19):
Jacksonville into the playoffs and they paid him quite close
to the top of the market. Back then, Blake was it
what first round draft pick? Yep, And so that's the
only once your first round draft pick, then people automatically

(01:40:41):
be like, oh, okay, well there's got to be some
good there. Whether we've seen it or not, it's coming. Yeah,
it's not coming for those guys well.

Speaker 2 (01:40:50):
And by the way, then they hold on to it
with a death grip. I mean, I could argue, oh no,
this goes to a different place because he's won a
Super Bowl and he was one of the greatest of
all time.

Speaker 3 (01:41:00):
There's no question about that.

Speaker 2 (01:41:02):
But then once you start to see all of the
actual decline, and once you start to see the inability
to do it like you used to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:41:12):
People won't believe it anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:41:15):
Look at what the New York Jets just did over
the last two and a half years.

Speaker 3 (01:41:19):
Of their lives.

Speaker 2 (01:41:20):
They handed an entire organization and millions upon millions of
dollars to it has been And they didn't just pay him.
They didn't just as I say, hand them the keys.
They actually started signing other players. They've disenfranchised the good
young players they already had Garrett Wilson, they fired a coach,

(01:41:43):
they fired others up up top.

Speaker 3 (01:41:45):
In the organization.

Speaker 2 (01:41:47):
They did all of these things for six wins in
two years, and then they let him walk out the
door after he has already obliterated the place.

Speaker 4 (01:42:06):
I would sign brock Purty in a heartbeat, just like
I would sign Stephen de Seger in a heart beat.

Speaker 3 (01:42:15):
That was smooth. Guys.

Speaker 6 (01:42:17):
In the NBA All Star Game finale in San Francisco tonight,
I believe we're still in the final. There are people
just standing at mid court talking.

Speaker 3 (01:42:25):
What the hell is happening? Yeah, what is that?

Speaker 2 (01:42:28):
It's like they're trying to award the winners, but the
game just started.

Speaker 3 (01:42:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:42:32):
In fact, it's eleven to one first, one to forty wins.
It may actually finish at some point tonight, not while
we're on the air, I think, but it might finish
eleven to one because the team drafted by Charles Barkley
apparently has started zh of ten shooting from the floor.
A couple of comments online from people watching the festivities
this evening. One said the downtime between games tonight is

(01:42:55):
over the top, way too little basketball being played entirely
too much to versus actual basketball now. Another said, going
from the USA at Canada Hockey last night to watching
NBA All Star Game tonight is like going from the
Waldorf Astoria to a Gary, Indiana Motel six. And by
the way, that hockey last night, which included a thrilling

(01:43:16):
first period got, except for Game seven of the Final
last year, the largest TV audience in the last two
years for anything NHL related. It was four point four
million viewers. NBA All Star Game got four point six
million viewers a couple of years ago. So for the moment,
and they're still on the court, just talking and giving

(01:43:37):
away prizes. I guess it's eleven to one and somebody's
going to get to forty eventually and put us out
of our.

Speaker 2 (01:43:43):
Miser I want Jaron back. Bring Jaron out to shoot
from half court. See if he can win a millie.

Speaker 4 (01:43:50):
Yeah, a guy that h what.

Speaker 6 (01:43:52):
One hundred thousand dollars by quote beating Damian Lillard in
a three point contest. Of course, the NBA player had
to make three compared to the kids one, but sure, okay,
you beat them. Great men's college hoops earlier today, Number
nine Saint John's defeated number twenty four Creighton seventy nine
seventy three three weeks left in the college hoops regular season,
which to state in overtime, beat number fourteen Memphis, number

(01:44:14):
twenty Michigan was an eighty six eighty three winner at
Ohio State. Michigan is now twelve to two in the
Big Ten Conference, one game ahead of Michigan State, and
this Friday nights on Fox TV, it's Michigan State at Michigan.
Number twenty five Maryland beat Iowa, New Mexico over Utah State,
and women's hoops number seven rank Connecticut eighty seven fifty

(01:44:35):
eight winners at number four South Carolina, which had won
seventy one straight home games. Number six USC was down
twelve late third quarter tonight, but came back to win
at Washington sixty nine sixty four and right now at
number one UCLA eight minutes to go, it's tied. The
Bruins are hosting number twenty two Michigan State. It's tied
at fifty seven in the fourth quarter. Ludwig Oldberg won

(01:44:57):
the PGA event in San Diego by one stroke. Scotti
chef Fuler finished third. Three shots back. Seventy six on
Saturday killed him. As for Oldberg, he's going to be
up to number four in the world golf rankings. Tiger
Woods did not play in this event, which benefits his foundation.
It was held in San Diego this year instead of
La due to the recent fires. Wood says he's not
ready to golf after his mom's recent death. Last year,

(01:45:18):
Woods competed in only eleven rounds of golf in five
total events. He's still saying, without specifics same he's playing
golf on the tour this year, the PGA Tours in
Mexico next weekend. Then it's off to Florida for the
next four events. By the way, the live golf winner
in Australia late last night our time was Jakee Neeman,
so he takes home the customary four million dollars first

(01:45:42):
prize money four million dollars for three days of golf
in Adelaide, Oh total perse twenty million dollars. For a
live golf event today in California at the PGA Tournament
four million dollars to the winner, total perse twenty million dollars.
I know there's a lot to be said about live golf,

(01:46:03):
but look at the chi ching it has meant for
PGA players just the existence adl absolutely back to you.

Speaker 2 (01:46:14):
Great stuff is always Steve, thank you, thank you, thank
you very much, and a good breakdown of what's happening
at this All Star Game, which is people standing people
standing at Chase Center and talking into microphones while superstar
athletes stare at them and wait to be called back
out under the court.

Speaker 3 (01:46:31):
Fun.

Speaker 2 (01:46:33):
Brother, I don't know if you're on social media during
the show, I gather you're not. This this event is
getting absolutely torched. And what's worse because you know, Sam
three four star six seven has always torched everything on Twitter,

(01:46:58):
but this is being torched by the likes of Stephen A.
Smith and by the likes of Draymond Green and Richard Jefferson,
and like, oh my god, it's getting torched to the
point where now the argument is over who got us here?
In other words, does this just trace back to whatever? Yeah,

(01:47:22):
whenever the players, Lebron God is here.

Speaker 3 (01:47:25):
There you go. And did you see the team picture
tonight for Shocks team? Do you see this?

Speaker 4 (01:47:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:47:31):
Look, I'm sorry, man, I've spent the better part of
a career largely defending Lebron James because I'm like, look,
of all the athletes in the world, if the worst
thing you got on the guy is that he's a
little narcissistic and he made a TV show once upon
a time about his decision and you thought that was lame,
and a million dollars got made for the Boys and

(01:47:52):
Girls Club in Cleveland. If that's the worst thing you've
gotten a guy you don't have much.

Speaker 4 (01:47:56):
Well it's not the worst, but dude, dude.

Speaker 3 (01:48:00):
Is super annoying today.

Speaker 2 (01:48:03):
I'm sorry for not having a more refined way of
saying that. Like people have incentives in their contract for
being All Stars. You could have ducked out of this
game even as late as yesterday, and someone else could
have stepped in. We're doing a team photo before the

(01:48:25):
thing starts. You can't get out of your clothes. Like
everybody's there in uniform steph KD. Tatum and you're in
your backwards hat and fancy slacks.

Speaker 4 (01:48:38):
Not good, dude.

Speaker 3 (01:48:40):
Today has been a terrible look for Lebron James. No
way to overstate it.

Speaker 4 (01:48:48):
Not good. All you had to do was participate in
the dunk contest. The trajectory would have shifted. It would
have it would have stayed competitive. Other young guys would
have camped in the league and felt like they needed
to continue in the great, great legacy that was set

(01:49:09):
before them. Most of these guys have played on the
same AAU team, so they're all friends, and so they
don't have that competitive desire to beat each other. Isaiah
Thomas hated Michael Jordan still does, and vice versa. I

(01:49:31):
think a lot of people do, right. Magic Johnson admired, respected,
but hated Larry Bird, Like, this is what the NBA
was built on, the rivalry it carried over in the

(01:49:54):
All Star Game. We're not gonna let the best of
the East beat the best of the West, and vice versa.
Remember Dwyane Wade broke Kobe Bryant's nose in the All
Star Game. You think Kobe brann was just out there
going through the motions.

Speaker 2 (01:50:15):
Oh man, I'm actually this is worse than I thought
it would be. I knew it was gonna be bad,
But they spent all week admitting that last year was embarrassing.
So they spent all year trying to fix it, and
this is what they've come up with.

Speaker 4 (01:50:28):
Wrong people in there making decisions.

Speaker 2 (01:50:30):
Well, you just said it at the very beginning of
this conversation, and I think I'm with you.

Speaker 3 (01:50:36):
I likeing it to this.

Speaker 2 (01:50:38):
If you get a couple that starts talking to each
other out loud in the living room about divorce, I'd
argue you're already there. You can't you can't talk about
that and then be like, nah, we're good, Like that's
a big, big discussion. And what I'm noticing over the
last twelve months is that the NBA is openly talking

(01:51:01):
now about how the All Star Game and all of
its different formats don't work, and nobody wants to be here,
nobody wants to try. Now we're having fights and over
who we blame for having Look, I think you're right, dude,
burn it.

Speaker 3 (01:51:16):
It's over.

Speaker 4 (01:51:16):
Burn the whole weekend. I'm literally I'm watching the guy
who won the dunk contest again is not even in
the league. That's crazy to me, it really is.

Speaker 3 (01:51:37):
I'm trying to think of a cop.

Speaker 4 (01:51:38):
You know what, it'll you know what should happen. They
should gather because they're professional dunkers out there. They can
do stuff NBA players can't do even yep close. They
should bring in a professional dunkers and just have the
NBA players be the judges. At least will be entertained.

(01:52:03):
At least will be entertained. Yeah, because we don't even
know the guys who are dunking now, right, and we
don't know who the go, but they're not even They
don't even have the ability to do what a Matt
McClung does. So what I'm saying is, if you want
to see something spectacular, let's bring those guys in who

(01:52:26):
travel around the world dunking. At least will be entertained
and at all with what they can do, opposed to
the guys ninth, tenth, eleventh, and twelfth at the end
of a bench that we've never seen play are dunk
in a basketball game, being a dunk contest. That's how

(01:52:50):
I feel. I'm looking for entertainment. It's obvious that the
players that we know and love aren't gonna give us that,
So at least entertainment please.

Speaker 3 (01:53:00):
Well again, my favorite part of the entire weekend was Jaron.

Speaker 2 (01:53:06):
Jaring, the kid with glasses and a mullet who got
to shoot threes against Damian Lillard for one hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:53:11):
It was the best part of the night. It's not
even close.

Speaker 4 (01:53:14):
Look at this, this is just trash. Miss Layup, this
is garbage. I'm so glad I'm on the air talking
about this trash. It's it's it's hard to watch, man,
it's insulting for people who are fans and people who've
spent their money to go up here, and and all,
it's just not enough. It's not good. No. First of all,

(01:53:39):
you can't have fifty minutes. You can't have a time
out for fifty minutes and expect these guys to get
up off the ground or get off off the bench
and come in and still play. They literally for fifty minutes.

(01:54:00):
It was eleven to one, and then they stopped playing
for fifty minutes to do nothing. And so now you
ask these guys to get back up and to compete.
They weren't competing to begin with, but they're really not going.
Do you want somebody to just pull a hamstring or
a quad or anything, Well, that would be the actual

(01:54:22):
end of it.

Speaker 3 (01:54:24):
That'd be the actual end of it.

Speaker 4 (01:54:25):
You know, aw loone, they was sitting over there.

Speaker 2 (01:54:27):
Somebody goes out there and pops something. I think they'd
send everybody home like the second had happened. Yeah, I'm
with you, man, we're in the tyrag dot com studios.
I still want to have the rest of that Aaron
Rodgers conversation with you, and maybe instead of talking about this,
that's what we should do. So we'll do that coming
up next on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, these are the

(01:54:50):
tire Rag dot com studios.

Speaker 3 (01:54:53):
If you'd like to hear more bashing of All Star Weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:54:58):
I have no doubt that planking's and you're on deck,
or you could just open up your computer.

Speaker 3 (01:55:02):
And look at any website anywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:55:08):
But yeah, man, I do want to know from you
because you've got a lot to say through the last
few years about Aaron Rodgers. Is there a career left?
Is there a team that will hand him the keys?
Is he willing to go to a team under normal
circumstances and just you know, be their quarterback?

Speaker 4 (01:55:30):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:55:30):
Stop stop telling them who to sign and all this stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:55:34):
I think being humbled says yes to that. If he
decides he still wants to play, he may be done.
He may be like that, I don't want to do
this anymore. I want to go and you know, teach
pilates and tantry yoga of somewhere and belieze, who knows

(01:55:56):
you can do that. But there will all always be
a market for Aaron Rodgers because quarterback play is so
sporadic and hit and miss that. Yeah, you don't think
the Colts were taking Iron Rodgers. The Raiders were taking

(01:56:19):
Aaron Rodgers, the Titans would take a Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 3 (01:56:24):
Well, it depends on what you getting them to do.

Speaker 4 (01:56:26):
Like anything, I'm just mentioning teams that had no answer whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (01:56:32):
Right, but those teams are about to draft a quarterback
if I exactly imagine.

Speaker 4 (01:56:36):
So you were bringing Aaron Rodgers in and well, hold on,
if you were to bring Aaron Rodgers in and have
him play a year, I think all most quarterbacks, not
all most can benefit from sitting down.

Speaker 2 (01:56:53):
If Aaron chooses to not be a jerk about it,
like if he would mentor.

Speaker 4 (01:56:59):
The it's not even about mentoring, it's about or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:57:03):
Well, I'll say, don't feel threatened by him. Like understand,
there for a year.

Speaker 4 (01:57:08):
We got to remember, like when I came into the
league and Aaron came in shortly after me, there was
this whole thing of mentorship that didn't exist. Veterans weren't
helping you take their job.

Speaker 3 (01:57:20):
Okay, fine, but.

Speaker 4 (01:57:22):
But wait, wait, but what you did was you learn
how to be a pro. You're in the meetings, you're
spending more time than ever in the presence of someone
who had been doing this for a long time and
at a high level. So it puts you in a
situation where you learn how to do that. Whether they

(01:57:46):
were helping you, like, hey, come to the house, we're
gonna break down these defense no, no, no, no no. The
fact that you're in the rule. You think Alex Smith
was helping Patrick Mahomes to unseat him. No, But what
it does is it allows you to learn how to
become a pro without the pressures of having to win.

(01:58:07):
That's what slows some quarterbacks down, the pressures to actually win,
and not just quarterbacks, any position, the pressure to actually
win as you're learning how to be a pro because
you're being held to the standard of outliers, right like

(01:58:28):
a CJ. Stroud, Jaden Daniels, Andrew Luck for every one
of those guys, they're ten, Sam Donalds, Daniel Jones. Is. So,

(01:58:50):
I think whether Aaron is gonna be anri And now
you think Aaron helped Jordan Love No, But what he.

Speaker 3 (01:59:02):
Was a no no no no.

Speaker 4 (01:59:04):
But what he was able to do is sit there
for three years and really learn what to do and
what not to do. That's invaluable.

Speaker 3 (01:59:12):
Yeah, I understand that. I understand that.

Speaker 2 (01:59:14):
I'm not saying he needs to, like, you know, take
the kid paintballing or something like that with his off time.

Speaker 3 (01:59:20):
But you know, maybe don't squash him, is all I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:59:25):
We got all off season to talk about that, and
we will down the road.

Speaker 3 (01:59:29):
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