Fox Sports Sunday: Mike Harmon & Jared Smith Talk Lakers, NHL IS BACK, NCAA Basketball Preview, and So Much More!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Countdown on Saturdays. Please to have him in as part
of our crew here on the Sunday traversing the wide
world of sports. What's going on, buddy?

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Oh Mike, it has been an awesome week and I'll
be honest, this is the time of year, right to
the end of February, right into March. Like that football transition.
I've been pretty much basketball mode the last two weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
It's been fun.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
It's that fun time of year, right as we get
to spring training. We had Four Nations Cup that went down.
We'll get into that a little bit next hour. Obviously,
the NBA All Star Game. In theory, we're out of
the hate watching and shaking fists on something. We're not
gonna watch it, and then oh it was terrible. It's like, well,
you said you weren't going to watch it, so does

(01:36):
that mean you watched it? Or you're just taking what
other people said. Either way, you're a liar one way
or the other. At Jared Smith Betts Is where you
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so betting insights there and of course our teammate here
Fox Sports Radio hearing with Brian and Rich on Saturdays.
Please to have you in so much going on, As
you said, Jared, I mean that sweet spot we've got

(02:19):
college buckets women's side, North Carolina State and Notre Dame
fifteen to zero in conference. Hannah Hidalgo one of those
breakout stars. You know, who's next in the post Caitlin
Clark era for college buckets. So exciting times all around.
We'll get into college basketball in earnest in a few
because the men's side of things, we're starting to see

(02:42):
a little bit of separation, but we're also paying a
little more attention. As you said, Mike, once we get
past the NFL Super Bowl hangover, it's the all right,
what's next, what's gonna get our eyeballs, what's going to
pop through? And where are we finding heroes? And for
college buckets, at least you got a couple of those
old salty dogs still given us some noise and opportunity.
But I'd be remiss if we didn't start out with

(03:04):
the big story that really swept last night, because it's
a roller coaster will ride for the final twenty three
games of the regular season, whatever the postseason becomes, and
that is everything. Los Angeles Lakers. Look, they're setting up
Hollywood because the Oscars are a week from now, so
you know, all the glitz, all the glamour, and that's
what you have for every Laker game. Now, everybody out

(03:27):
with the microscopes, for every possession of Luka Dancis. I
saw him WinCE there. He looked like he was breathing
a little heavy at the ten. You know, forty five
part whatever the case made that a shape, right, I mean,
that's what we're trying to do time and again. One
twenty three, one hundred, the win over a surging Denver
team that we've been kind of eyeballing and watching them

(03:49):
come back together. Nicoley Jokic now second very firmly in
the MVP race at Shay Gilgess Alexander as your favorite.
Then you've got Luca and then every everybody else is
a one hundred to one to one or worse. So
you've got that separation. But the Lakers, after dropping games
to the Jazz and the will be gone Charlotte Hornets,

(04:12):
come out with a massive effort and immediate is like,
all right, put the win back in the sales, get
those car flags out, everything's right with the world. I'm like,
I don't know. Game to game, you could be motivated
for one day, less motivated for another I mean, that's
the ebb and flow of an eighty two game season.
So I try not to get hype, but I mean,
on radio, what are we supposed to do? It's either

(04:32):
greater or the sky is falling. Jared, I feel like
I'm letting America down by not having a hot take that, oh,
they're gonna take over the world.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
Well, that's the beauty with the NBA season is you
can kind of not pay attention to it for three
or four months, and then you can come back to it,
you know, after the super Bowl and it's like, oh,
they're still They're still playing.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
They started playing like right around Halloween, right, and we
were still very obviously focused on on the NFL. The
Lakers are. I think you're gonna see them can continue
to improve. I mean, I obviously when a when a
player like Luka Danca comes in and kind of disrupts
what the flow of what Lebron was trying to run.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
And let's be honest, Lebron's running the show.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
And and I think that one of the funniest things
I heard was when he's like, oh, yeah, we I
was at dinner when we found out about the Luca trade.
Like I didn't even know, Like, come on, really.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
But that's the Nay doubled down. I mean, is Rich
Paul and everybody else a guy had no idea. Come
on me completely by surprise, Jared, come on.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
Yeah, there is no there is no way that that
man did not know that they were in the midst
of of generating or you know, acquiring a generational talent.
But the reason why the Denver game was interesting last night, Mike,
is because now we get the Dallas game on Tuesday,
so it was kind of the last chance for them
to kind of show you, hey, this is our peak,

(05:49):
this is our ceiling, and then we get this crazy
revenge matchup which is going to be absolutely dripping with
drama on Tuesday night at you know, the artist formally
known as the Staples Center.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
So I think you're gonna see.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
Them again continue to improve as Luca continues to kind
of round into form pun or no pun intended, and
we'll see what this dynamic looks like.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Because at its peak, like you would think.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
And if you go back to the playoffs last year,
you would think this Lakers team could compete in that
seven game series against the Thunder in that seven game series,
you know, against the Dolls, the artist formally known as
Dallas like those top tier Western Conference teams. Denver in
the mix as well. But we'll just have to see.
And I think that's what this next month or two.

(06:39):
You know, they're gonna face the Knicks, they're gonna face
the Celtics, they're gonna face Denver twice later in March,
so we're gonna get plenty of opportunities to see what
this ceiling could be.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Yeah, certainly in that middle of March, Lebron posted about it,
so it got to fuel the old heads and anything
that it just wants to poke at Lebron going Michael
Jordan would never because they've got a six game stretch
that is the Gauntlet, and we we talked about it.
Smith and I, uh, my normal partner, Jason, the other
J Smith Smith that I work with. Man, you were

(07:12):
with too many j Smith Man. It's I guess it's
easy for you to keep the names in track.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
Though.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Well here's the thing. He he at least got the
shout out and the derision from JJ Redick after a
Q and a.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Yeah, that's right, I heard that. That was pretty good.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
I mean, there's no denying. Uh, we got under his
skin thanks to our blowtorch am five seventy l A
Sports for carrying the Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon
in the evenings. Uh so, no doubt coach heard some
things he didn't like. Now, were they necessarily any different
than a lot of the other criticisms Uh in the
sporting world. No, but we we hit it hard. And look,

(07:48):
you have two stage two big stations in l A.
One is the sycophanic one because they carry him, and
then you got us waving at you over here. So uh,
that's what you're gonna get. So if you you wanted
to know how really stand, Look, I don't have a
dog in the fight. I live in Los Angeles. Happy
people makes for better roadways than everything else. Right, people

(08:10):
carry stuff up onto their highways and the two hour commutes.
But fifty seven, sixteen and nineteen, those are the numbers
that Lebron and Luca put up yesterday. Decided market a
difference than we'd seen in their first couple iterations together,
and certainly for Luca, the big thing is trying to

(08:31):
figure out where you fit, right. Plenty of ISO shots
of him in the Charlotte game of just kind of
standing around trying to figure out because if he's off
the ball, like, he's never done that, right, so it's
a learning curve and trying to figure out how that goes.
He was also shooting terribly so towards the end of
the game when we need a big shot, I don't
know that your A, your confidence is going to be there,

(08:54):
your top five guy, it should be, you know, keep firing.
But in this case, when you've got a guy like
Lebron James who in that fourth quarter had heated up,
that he's going to take the shots. So, you know,
little micro cosms, but in the moment, you know, you're
trying to take these data points and figure it out.
You bring up the revenge game with Dallas. It's unfortunate

(09:14):
that you know, Anthony Davis isn't part of it. Also
that Daniel Gafford's unavailable, right, because the big talking point
with Dallas, beyond Kyrie taking that team back over, was
you talk about their front line being something you have
to match up with. And after the Mark Williams trade failed,
which is still going to be contested no matter what,

(09:35):
Adam Silver tried to dismiss at the All Star game.
They're not going to let that go. We've talked to
one hundred independent doctors and they've all said the same thing.
But it's just to the point of, you know, matchups
come playoff time, how do you really go against if
Luca and Lebron are healthy, you know, in a game

(09:56):
to game scenario where you're not playing back to backs,
you know, I'll them a puncher's chance against anybody.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
Yeah, I think that's the key in a best of seven,
when it's a longer series, or in reality, when it's
you know, three you have to win three best of
sevens to get to the NBA Finals. That's where i'm
can they hold up over the long haul? Because the
thing that we forget, and because the regular season is
so long, the postseason is also very long.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
It can really.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
So I think that's what we forget when we're trying
to handicap. You know, all right, can the Lakers advance
to the NBA Finals, Well, they have to get past
the first round, and then they have to be healthy
enough to get past the second round and then oh,
by the way, the Western Conference finals ain't no picnic either.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
But on the.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
Flip side of that, let's say you close your eyes
in a vacuum and it's a one game roll of
the dice. Well, I'd rather have Lebron and Luca in
that scenario. So it can the Lakers get it to
the point where, you know, shorten the amount of actual
games you have to play, shorten the runway in order
to get to an NBA Finals. I think that is

(11:03):
that that's the upside, Like, that's where I think you
look at this trade and maybe you know the bulk
of it is, Hey, in ten years, we could have
Luka Doncik as a as a generational talent. But right now,
what does it mean? Well, you need guys like Tachi
Moore to step up. You need guys like Dori and
Finney Smith, who was a plus twenty one last night fantastic.
You know he didn't score a lot of points, but
you know his role off the bench is going to

(11:24):
be huge because you gotta do it with more than
just two guys if you want to get through that
second season, because it's a a lot of games you've
got to win to get to the NBA Finals. So
I think those players have to step up as well.
It's across the board. But if you're you know, you
close your eyes, Game seven, Western Conference Finals, I get
Luca and Lebron and you get whoever shake Gil, just

(11:44):
Alexander and chet Holgrim. Yeah, I think we know who
we're taking in that scenario.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Mike.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Yeah, it's the same concern I have going out of
the East with the Knicks. I just don't know about depth,
Like that's the fear, right, And obviously we've got a
long way to go. And we've seen Rhodes open up
in the playoffs the number of injuries and right, and
every year it seemed like all right, no, well they
had an easier path because of X y Z. And
we have those tales going back a year to year

(12:09):
for the Lakers, you know, it's all about their health
and Lebron James holding up and if any of the
stuff out of Dallas, you know, the scorned lover that
continues to leak stuff, It's like, you know what, his
risk wasn't even hurt man, he was just out of
shape to start the season. I'm like, all right, so
how big is the fine gonna be for lying on
the injury report? Because those are two very different things.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
But you know, sadly, I think the injury report stuff
in college is even worse.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
It's crazy what they do with the injury reports these days.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
No, that's a whole other game, because we'll get into
the college game because I have questions, because there's also
a big well betting scandal that is now founded way
to the college world that I'm sure you were wrapping
sinking your teeth into. I watched Nose Faratu, so I'm
gonna make a bunch of I gotta get something out
of that two and a half hours because I ain't
getting by two and a half hours of my life back,

(13:00):
so I at least have to make a joke there.
But we do have a clip of Lebron talking in
the post about Luca gaining this camaraderie and companionship.

Speaker 4 (13:10):
I'm a natural born wide receiver and he's a natural
born quarterback, so it fits perfectly. I've been running a
floor and run a lanes like you know, pretty much
my whole life, and he's been throwing great passes pretty
much his whole lifestyle.

Speaker 5 (13:22):
Dot Com.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
It's not it's not.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
Hard to get a rhythm when it comes to that.
You know, it's just all about you know, eye contact
and you know him being a great quarterback like he is,
and meet being a recipient of itself.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
I would say that that has been some of the
best best moments coming out of these games. And you
could probably take all sorts of eighties love songs as
the accompanying tracks to them, but you can make so
many gifts off of the two of them and lobbing,
whether it's to each other or to Jackson Hayes, who's
been the recipient of a few thus far. But like

(13:54):
that little smile, like yeah, I gotcha, Like Luca had
one to Lebron that hit the web by think eight
seconds after it actually was completed. Look at this, Look
at this so wonderful. So you know what, the best
of things because you know what, I'm trying to be
Joe positivity because for the NBA, Jared, we've had the
life cycle. People didn't pay attention or they did in

(14:15):
microcosm as the NFL season wound to its end, right,
you still have your fans city to city, but nationally
it just popped up on the radar here and there.
But you have that, and then we had all of
the complaining about how bad the product was leading into
the All Star Week ahead of the All Star week,
we had the trade deadline. So for one week of

(14:37):
the year, during the trade deadline, not talking about games,
just theoretically what could happen. The NBA won like it
was the happiest time for everybody, all the big trades. Sure,
the Williams thing fell apart, but Jimmy Butler's getting traded
and wins the face off with pat Riley. You got
the Luca deal that starts it all off. Tiharren Fox

(14:57):
goes to San Antonio, like all of these things for
a we love the NBA, and then immediately it's like, ah,
the All Star Game stinks. Nobody participates in any of
these and were right back into it. So I'm trying
to find those those little slivers of positivity here on
a Sunday morning, thinking good thoughts as people are going
to and from services, out and about with their families

(15:18):
and having their days out together on a day off. Positivity, Jared,
that's what we're all about here on a Sunday morning.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
I love positivity.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
No, I mean there is something like it is sad
that the trade deadline and the trades is the most
exciting part of the NBA regular season. I think that's
an issue we should think about working on. But there
is a lot of positives about the NBA. I just
think this last week, and in reality, it was like
the juxtaposition of having the NBA All Star Game back
to back with the Four Nations face off that made

(15:47):
it look way worse, Like if it was just the
NBA All Star Game and no Four Nations face off
the day after where the rock them sock them robots,
you know, in the USA Canada game, and then you
know the rematch a few.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
Days later, Like it was just the you know, we
have such a recency.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
Bias in our in our society that like having those
events on back to back days or really on the
same day was not a good look for the NBA.
But things will calm down and we'll start to get
into that playoff mode where the games matter more. And yeah,
it's just you got to get through those tough months.
This is why I don't pay attention to the NBA

(16:23):
until you know, met round mid February, because I just
know it's you know, it's it's kind of like it's
kind of like one of the playoff games, like if
you just turn it on with five minutes leup.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
You're gonna get what you need to get from the game.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
That's it. You take it as it is. I mean,
we talk about second seasons and silly seasons in terms
of all the yapping, but certainly for the NBA you
assess it post All Star Game, because it's not the midpoint.
You got twenty five, twenty six games for most of
these teams. Who's healthy, who's ready to go, and who
goes into operations? Shut down? How many ping pong balls

(16:56):
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As we continue, we'll get into that four Nations event
because we talk about you know, carryover and what you
can pull forward, and also an I on college basketball,
some fantastic audio that we're efforting from yesterday, but also

(17:20):
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great stretch runs in these conferences. All of that and more.
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Speaker 1 (18:51):
Jared.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
One of the points as we were talking about the
NBA and getting ready for this big second half of
the season and getting a riding away of momentum now
and and everybody wanting to see live and die or
get the poison pens out for every game that Luca
and Lebron play together, talk about the four Nations and
the excitement drawn off of that. We talked about it

(19:14):
a bunch on our show, Jason and I during the
week and just trying to figure out how big that
springboard can be. You know, you had a Eruzione there
about the only figure you could bring into anything when
when you get the Nations involved. That's gonna trump Wayne
Gretzky showing up, although I do need to procure one
of those b great hats that he gave out to

(19:36):
Team Canada. It's a line I've been using forever, like
as a tagline at the end of conversations or whatever.
It's like, all right, be great, you know, not have
a good night. Go no, be great. So he owes
me money. I'm gonna go pat Riley on him seven
seven bucks a unit. But all of that to say,
Shay went to the Kings game yesterday. Yeah right, so

(19:59):
he he has the experience of going to the game
having a bunch of bets. So like we bridge all
our worlds here. Jared and And talked about the energy
as he came in this morning, because it seemed like
it left him either that or was the hot dogs
he bought from the dubious guy on the car in
the post game. But Sham and You talked about, you

(20:20):
know what, You've been to a bunch of games and
this one felt a little different.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (20:23):
So, I mean this was like my third game of
the season so far. And I don't know if it
was because it was Armenian Heritage Night or if.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
It was community.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
Means love their hockey.

Speaker 5 (20:34):
They do. Man Glen not far from downtown.

Speaker 7 (20:36):
But so basically I was like the atmosphere, the people,
It's like it was like a resurgence of like we're
back almost, and like everyone I was talking to was
so happy and like like the King's won. So that
could be a reason why too, that'll do it. And
they covered the spread, which I'm very happy about. But
other than that, it was just it felt like great
to be there and everyone was like so happy about

(20:57):
like hockey, and everyone I was talking to is like,
it's back, man like, and as everyone is saying like
NBA's back, NHL, like, you can't even say it's back,
because I don't think it's ever really been there. Like
four nations. It was so big for them. I think
that people that have never really talked about hockey are
now asking me, yo, you went to the Kings game yesterday,
like that's so cool, like swiping up on my DMS
and all that, and I thought it was really cool

(21:18):
to see that. But no hockey, in my opinion, and
I'll die on this hill is one of the best
live experiences you can go to in sports. So I'm
really happy that people are starting to notice it. And
it's great. Seriously, the atmosphere was amazing. And again, it
could have just been our median in heritage tonight, or
it could be because of the four Nations.

Speaker 5 (21:33):
So we'll see.

Speaker 7 (21:33):
I mean, I'll be going to other games, so I'll
keep you guys updated.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
Yeah, we'll see how long that carryover continues. And again,
avoid those hot dogs paint paid.

Speaker 5 (21:42):
Oh man, those victory dogs, especially after three years. Not
avoid them? Are you kidding me?

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Now?

Speaker 2 (21:49):
Draw you like them off to the flint like they
tried to give him a price Jared and he had
to say no, no, no, no, no, Yeah, I was here
this last week. You this is what you're getting.

Speaker 7 (21:58):
I was like, you think of some some new guy here,
you kidding the crisis for these things I've done.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
I didn't know this was a thing like so so,
like the bootleg hot dogs or oh yeah kings.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
I had no idea. I'm not part of the culture.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Yea all around l a A concerts, all all sporting events. Uh,
come up with a little flat top propane tank and
you'll have the hot dogs with with all of the topping.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
It's kind of like New York because they do the
street New York Street me, it's a big deal.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Well back to are you licensed and have you gone
through food training? I know many a person who's tried
to do restaurant tours and uh yeah making up words
uh being restaurant tours and buying in on those that
have lost everything. They've had because they've tried to go
through the city for all proper permitting and licensing or whatever.

(22:49):
Yet I can roll up a cart at the end
of the street and say, hello, don't even think about
so all of that, Chris, you had something you want dad?

Speaker 8 (22:58):
Yeah, I'm just I'm curious in the hockey front, growing
up in you know, hockey country, Red Wings all my life.
But I think the problems for hockey has always been
a matter of just being able to sell their players.
But I will say, coming off the Four Nations, and
I did see an article about him, but PK. Sue
Band definitely seems to be the real winner out of
anyone right now as far as being a face for

(23:19):
hockey on broadcast, it sounds like his role in ESPN
is going to expand, which is tremendous because he was
a tremendous player playing hockey. But also you've just needed
someone on the American side of the fence to really
champion the sport. I know it's always been like Don
Cherry up North, or who's the guy on ESPN they
had for a.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Very long has done a good job.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
I was thinking.

Speaker 8 (23:39):
Melrose, like, yes, a former coach, but like I don't
think Melrose never really took whereas I feel like Sue
Ban just given who he is and the way he talks,
and especially how we talked about four Nations versus the
NBA Elso it feels like that's a voice that can
carry over and get people interested. And then after that,
it's just a matter of just letting people know who

(24:01):
these guys are. And that's always been a problem for hockey.
It's like it's it's it's just that they've kind of
like baseball players, shunned a lot of the spotlight. If
you can fix those two things, you can put a
face on TV like Sue Ban and get people invest
in these teams. We're gonna have the NHL, We're gonna
have the Stanley Cup playoffs coming up pretty soon and
we all and that's already pretty well championed as a

(24:21):
very tough playoff. This could really be a seminal moment
for the National Hockey League if they can capture that. Unfortunately,
it is the National Hockey League and they tend to
fall on their face after a while.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
Wow. One of the big takeaways from the week you
can find the podcast wherever you find your audio, is
that in a very rare place. We try to give
our flowers a lot on Friday, right end of the week,
and a lot of love. That Gary Bettman was actually
the number one commissioner in the world, if only for
a week. How about that.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
That must have been a first, Mike, Yeah, I know,
the first time you've ever had Gary Betman is number
one on that list.

Speaker 6 (24:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
No, I can't say that there's really been any cause
to you know, Rob Manford keeps sticking his foot in
his mouth at Silver might as well have been tap
dancing about all the questions and answers that he had,
and Roger Goodell is just off on his side because look,
the league is unassailable, right. You can try to poke

(25:14):
holes at it, lawsuits here, there, everywhere, and everybody just
shrugs like, yeah, tune into any of our streaming partners
and everything. We're going to draw better numbers for two
guys walking onto a field than any game that you're
going to play. So all of that to say, I
hope that it carries. I think Chris's point with Sueban
like showing up on all the news shows and being

(25:36):
that champion. I'll just draw on my training card history
I still dabble and I do that on the side
a little bit.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
Just becoming up big business now by the way, well
it always was, yeah, it always was much more popular.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Now the fanatics is diving in and they had a
huge event yesterday with a Rip Night, and they've partnered
with the WWE, so they had wrestlers everywhere.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
That's oh though, that'll get it big. You don't realize
how much money is in wrestling. But the hockey thing.
So for me, I grew up a hockey fan. I
grew up in New York, grew up a Rangers fan.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
You know. I was eight years old.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
And ninety four when they won the Cup and that
kind of cemented my hockey roots.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
I played goalie. I was obsessed with my Chrichter growing up.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
So I'm coming at it from a very I'm already,
you know, slightly above casual fan with hockey.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
But I think what hockey needs to lean into. Hockey
needs to lean into two things.

Speaker 3 (26:27):
First of all, Shane mentioned it the live experience is
I think it's the best live sport to go watch,
Like honestly, I think the energy inside of a hockey arena.
I go to the Vegas Golden Nights games here in
town all the time. They are elite now they do
the entertainment to the utmost degree. It's like a Vegas show.
I think other teams need to take that model and

(26:47):
use it as this is fan you know, family cheap
entertainment compared to going to an NFL game.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
That is for sure.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
The second part of it that Chris alluded to with
PK is you're right, there needs to be a media
champion right now in the NFL. It's the Kelsey's right, like,
they're in everything. It's Peyton Manning and Eli Manning. They're
in everything. You see those guys showing up at these events.
You see those guys you know on TV having their
own streaming, having their own platforms. I think that is

(27:15):
something the NHL needs to do a better job in
because we don't know these guys, and that is something
that maybe PK can do. He's a younger guy, whereas
Barry Melrose was kind of an older, you know, coach
when he was.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
Becoming his media star.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
Whereas PK still looks like he could play, and I
think he's very marketable, and that obviously will you know,
up the potential for what the league can be, but
at the end of the day, when we get to
the playoffs, guys, it is the best product outdoor in
the postseason, and I think that's what they need to
lean into the most is the product itself, which we
saw in the Four Nations. The product itself, I think

(27:50):
is better than most of the other sports day to
day products.

Speaker 8 (27:53):
It just needs stories on teams like we always give
lip service like yeah, this is always so good, why
don't we talk about it more? And then we just
don't talk about it more. But it feels like it
just sell a couple of h.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
Is an opportunity here because baseball just got fired by ESPN.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Well we're gonna do that in about twenty minutes in
earnest because it's a U and.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
That I think is an opportunity for the NHL to guys.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
I would argue the other if I'm Major League Baseball,
this might make Rob Mann for the Guy of the
Week next week with the.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
Because now the because now baseball is more flexible, well,
baseball needed to change too, because there's just so many games.
The product on ESPN doesn't work because you know, it's
not a national Game of the Week kind of vibe anymore.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
We want to watch all the games. The NHL can
still get away with that a little bit because there's fewer.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
Games, and I think there is more of a cry
for the bigger teams to be on national TV every week.

Speaker 5 (28:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
I think the point that you make going out of
the Sue ban into the Kelsey slash Mannings, how many
hockey players do we know because they have media savvy
podcasts or other The answer is zero? Yeah, right, you
got a couple of former guys who get some run
now and again. But you know, and I love seeing

(29:00):
Wayne Gretzky out there or Messia. I mean he's not
great on air, though, but they're not great on air.
They're not right, so is fantastic on air. Mannings are
fantastic on air. Belichick's great on air, right right, because
you don't know what you're gonna get, but you're gonna
get an honest opinion to get cut through their funny
all the way through. You know, Gretzki's still gonna have
just all right. I have this persona which is really

(29:22):
crazy because years ago I interviewed them and we did
about ten minutes talking about Waikiki hockey and hosting Saturday
Night Live.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
Well, he's a softer spoken guy, like he doesn't have
that really intense personality where the Mannings do, you know,
like Peyton's got this unbelievable personality.

Speaker 8 (29:36):
I think this is the biggest problem for the NHL
because a lot of those guys just won't have that personality.
Because yeah, you could talk about Sidney Crosby. Yeah, we
could talk about who does. And I think the culture
of hockey has agreed, it has has forced those guys.
It's like, we don't want these guys to stand out
from that. That's their tough Yeah, hockey players are tough guys.

(29:56):
Tough guys don't always have the best personalities. They're just tough.
They're just tough guys, like they the stoic.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Teams discourage it.

Speaker 5 (30:03):
But yeah, well.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
But again, you know, owing to where I was heading
off of the uh my history, you know, living in
the three hundred level in Chicago. But you talk about
growing up Jared and the games you'd go to is hockey.
People like hockey. And that's where I was tying with
the trading cards, is they're gonna that's all they buy.
They don't dabble in anything.

Speaker 6 (30:25):
Else.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
So it's kind of like boxing to a degree. Talk
to people that love boxing, they like they can find product, right,
it's a good product. It's just getting the masses to
like your product is not always the easiest thing, uh,
to get them to come to the table. So hopefully
that door is open. Anyway, we have to call time
out on this conversation now and go over on man

(30:48):
that we love, we respect. He's a man about town,
the Chargers, Angel City. It's Isaac Low and Crown. What's
going on? Buddy?

Speaker 4 (30:57):
Why?

Speaker 9 (30:57):
Thank you, Mike, Good day to you? And Ared will
start in college basketball because the University of Arizona Athletic
Department issued a statement late last night apologizing to BYU
for a profane chant by Arizona fans after BYU's ninety
six ninety five victory over the nineteenth ranked Wildcats. After

(31:18):
the game ended, fans of the Bekale Center in Tucson
chanted last night, bleep the Mormons. The statement set in
part quote, we apologize to BYU. There's student athletes, coaches,
and fans. The chance is not reflective of who we
are and should not have happened unquote on the scoreboard
right now with Madison Square Garden number ten, Saint John's
leading yukon twenty seven to twenty two, seven and a

(31:40):
half mning of the first half NBA Saturday Night, the
Los Angeles Lakers won at Denver one twenty three to
one hundred, breaking Denver's nine game winning streak. Portland blew
out Charlotte by fifty three one forty one to eighty eight,
biggest win in Portland franchise history. Today's action tips off
at the top of the hours. The Boston Celtics host
the New York Knicks. Josh Hart and og Ann and

(32:01):
Noby are both in the starting lineup for the Knicks. Finally,
Michael Jaredy back to hockey. We have one last PostScript
from that dramatic Four Nations face off championship game in
which Canada defeated the US at overtime. Tony Marinero, a
host for Montreal radio station BPM sports Crank called a

(32:22):
Boston radio station posing as a Boston sports fan. Now
for perspective, here is the Montreal host's regular voice.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
Oy yep, yep, you get that fix.

Speaker 9 (32:36):
Young now, lovely French liilt. Now Here he is pretending
to be a Boston sports fan.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
All right, let's go to Curly in Boston.

Speaker 5 (32:46):
What's going on Curly?

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Hey, guys, I can't believe we lost that game.

Speaker 10 (32:50):
But as usual, we get owned by Canada, like ninety
percent of the time when we.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
Play, guy, we get owned by them. You know what,
it's their game, guys, we just have to admit it.

Speaker 4 (32:58):
It's closer now though, And I don't know if you
can necessarily say that anymore.

Speaker 5 (33:03):
I mean, they beat him last week?

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Yeah, yeah, but David, will we move in the US?

Speaker 1 (33:08):
They beat him last week when the game didn't mean anything.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
We leave the best player in the world, Connor mcjesus
all alone into flood.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
Guys, we don't know how to play hockey mix.

Speaker 9 (33:17):
So if we get a phone call from a Curly
in Boston, beware back to you guys, the chaos ensues.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
Last hockey note Frank Pelico, going back to my days
in Chicago thirty years with the Blackhawks at the Chicago
Stadium into the United Center, retires today, so it'll be
his final day at the Oregon after all these years. Wow,
there you go. Tying it all together Mike Carbon alongside
Jared Smith thanks to Ilo at Isaac Lohencron. As we

(33:46):
roll through here on a Fox Sports Sunday, we'll get
back into the television deals in earnest in a little bit.
But we've got at least one coach who's a big
fan of Cooper Flagg. Who is it and what do
you have to say about it? We'll talk about it
next year on Fox.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
Hey, welcome back in Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio.
My carving alongside Jared Smith. We're having a blast rolling
through a quick two hour sprint. So much going on.
We've got our college buckets going on both the men's
and the women's side. We've got number one Notre Dame
down four now to NC State, the half in game

(34:29):
betting opportunities for Hanna Hidalgo in company to try to
rally here as we go through, Jared, I mean, we're
always just trying to find angles one to talk about,
but too obviously if we could put in line people's pockets,
we want to do that as well. All the analysis
at Jared Smith Bets. We had a great discussion on
the National Hockey League coming out of the Four Nations

(34:52):
and all the excitement that that generated. I brought back
out my Chicago Blackhawk's Sergei Creva krazof Jersey from way
back in the day. So I'm ready, let's go.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
That's a lead.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
I got to get my Mike Richter, you know, signed
a card that I have kept on like you know
in like cryogenic nice Rajon storage. It's just I mean,
that was my guy growing up. I mean, I think
there's a certain vibe about hockey where you're right like
it's it's this old school mentality of fan bases. But
if they can figure out a way to get the cause,

(35:24):
I think sports today, like we saw it with the
Tyson Paul fight, we want that community experience. And if
the NHL has unlocked the way to do it in
their All Star Break of all places, I mean, just
wait for the Olympics next year, Mike. The Olympics next
year are gonna be absolutely crazy.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
I just did. I really wish we could just start
the playoffs right now, really ride that momentum into you
like that product. Way do you see this?

Speaker 1 (35:46):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (35:47):
Right, as we talked about a little bit earlier, Great
Conversation podcast will be upshale have that up for us
after we finish today. But I wanted to bring up
a game from yesterday Duke one ten sixty seven over Illinois,
an absolute beat down from pillar to post, and the
usual suspects getting after it for Duke. Great balance, you

(36:12):
had seven guys in double fit. I mean, it's just
one of those conga lines. Everybody plays, everybody wins, kind
of moment, Jared. But I thought the comments from Brat
Underwood in the post game were interesting in this new
day and age that we're living in in college basketball,
football and the other sports. Right we obviously give more

(36:32):
run off revenue and women's college basketball rising up as well.
But Underwood had this to say about the importance of
Cooper flag.

Speaker 10 (36:41):
Play college basketball.

Speaker 5 (36:43):
Sure, pretty close.

Speaker 10 (36:46):
I always stays in school. I mean, if I'm the
NCAA or ACC, I mean, I'm figuring out that il
deal to keep that dude in school because he's he's
everything that's that's right about our gay. I mean in
college basketball, great place. I mean, we've we've got guys
like that coming in. Iowa stays he somebody threw out

(37:06):
some story about it. Iowa stays man. Maybe great, he
could probably make more here they could in the NBA.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
Yeah, underworld, alluding to a story from earlier this week.
When talking about is future, Cooper Flag told The Athletic quote, blank,
I want to come back next year about the fun
that he's having. And look right now, it's it's all
you know, just what you what else are you gonna say?
You're in the moment. No, no, yeah, I'm out of here.

(37:34):
You know, I can't wait till this is done. I'm
the number one pick. Whoever's ping pong ball comes up,
Let's go to the NBA. You know, He's certainly not
going to say that, but it is to Underwood's point,
the the larger conversation about guys, both for football and
for basketball, looking around, going maybe it is worth it

(37:54):
staying here for another year.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
Right.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
We'd look at Carson Beck, you know, the latest victim
in the celebrity theft stuff. But going down to Miami,
he's gonna make what five six million dollars estimated, and
those usually I would guess on the low side. So
I thought it was, you know, Underwood's trying to sell
the system of Hey, college basketball is great, stay for
a little while longer.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
And I'm okay with that mindset.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
I just think then reality sets it like, we're a
prisoner of the moment, the moment when you're eighteen years
old and you're having the time of your life. You're
you're a king amongst men, you know, on Duke's campus.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
You're a prisoner of that moment.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
And then the season ends and then things calm down,
and then you get a chance to actually think about it,
and then you look at You're gonna go watch the
NBA Finals. You know in a couple months, you know
you're gonna be in the tournament. You know, at best
case scenario, you'll be finished playing college basketball in early April,
and then you've got two months of watching the NBA playoffs.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
And you're like, yeah, that looks pretty good too.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
So I think when you have to put yourself in
the mind of an eighteen year old when you're being
asked a question, and I forget who asked him question
it was originally I think it might have been a
Duke college like a Duke reporter that asked him, and
that might have, you know, changed his mind, like, oh yeah,
student reporter, I'll give him a nice answer. But now
it's kind of become a thing. I don't think he's
going to stay. It's a nice story on its on

(39:15):
its side, but I don't think he is going to stay.
And I don't think the money is there for these
guys to stay. If they're gonna be a top five.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Oh that's it, sixteen seven and five. It's more the
if you're a second round, third round guy in the
football side, or you're out of the lottery for basketball.
I could see it. Underwood had one other thing to
say about what he should do with this time. He
was talking about going, Hey, you got time, You're eighteen,
you're living the life. Go chase girls.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
How about you go play basketball and make money. Well,
there's women will be there in your twenties.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Well, I mean, look I college. Well, well I've done
that too, I know that feeling. Hey, coming up next
we talk about the rights deal, winners, losers. I might
be on the sided unlike most. We'll do that next
year on Fox. I'm the best coach in the world.
I'm the smartest guy in the world. Unless I'm not

(40:08):
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(40:31):
as part of Countdown. Honored to have him in today,
getting into some nuanced conversations of the larger sporting universe.
We got some college basketball talk, the old salty Dogs,
those coaches, We talk Cooper Flagg. I'man got to celebrate
the kids too as you go, but college basketball has
long been defined by their coaches, and a couple of

(40:53):
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(41:14):
ESPN breakup in just a second. But Saint John's with
an eighteen point lead over Yukon with a little over
a minute left in the first half. We talked a
lot about Patino a few weeks ago. Jason Smith and
I on our show, and I didn't realize that vice
thing existed at the time. You want to talk about
a guy who has made It's kind of like Jerry

(41:34):
Jones showing up on that Oilman show with Billy Bob Thornton, Yeah,
and doing one of those master Thespian turns, because that's
really what some of those speeches that are being siphoned
off of Patino feel like. But boy, is he having
a nice little renaissance here with Saint John's. And I
gotta say the casual college basketball fan probably liking to

(41:56):
see Danny Hurley maybe humbled, like the iron Cheek used
to say, you need to be back in the eighties, break.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
His back, make him humble.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
No, there's certainly a well played Yeah, I mean it's
I'm a big old school I mean that was I
was more of the attitude error growing up. Okay, Cold
Steve Austin he was. That was actually the theme of
my bar Mitzvah was wrestling.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
Yeah, I'm actually wearing the boost Asses I Love Rock
shirt as I'm sting.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
Oh, it doesn't matter what your name is, but it
definitely matters what Rick Patino's name is. So it's an
interesting third act for him, right, Like obviously Kentucky and
then Louisville were kind of the first two acts.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
Lots of success at both places and then the.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
Fallout, and I I ownA is a really interesting come
up because they kind of had some success at that level,
at a mid major level in the New York City area,
and it just made so much sense for him to
bounce back to Saint John's and it happened, and the
result is all of a sudden, the Johnnies, who have
been I don't want to say a bad team over

(42:57):
the last stretch. They've had some moments, but they have
not been a gritty team. And I think what New
York City basketball is Chris Mallins like, like the old
school Saint John's teams would punch you right in the mouth.
And I think this is what Rick Patino brings to
the table. They have the number one defense in the
country over the last month, like like they are a
absolute grinder of a defensive team.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
Now the question is can they make enough shots in
March to win.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
A big game. Today They're doing that against Yukon. They
do have some offensive players that I like Kadaria Richmond.
You remember from Seaton Hall had a nice little turney
round a few years ago. I think that's a guy
that has to come up big. But if they play
team basketball and they defend their took uses off, they're
gonna win a couple of games in March, and they're
gonna be in it, you know, in the sweet sixties
second weekend team, and then that's when we'll see how

(43:46):
they compete because the Big East. As much as I
love the Big East, there's just not a lot of
elite teams in the Big East this year. Like Saint
John's is that elite team in the conference. And that's
where I question when they go out and they face
the secs and even the accs and tens in those
second weekend you know, Elite eight kind of games. Do
they have the offense to compete? I know they have
the defense to compete, and I know they're tough as hell.

(44:08):
I don't know if they have the shot making.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
Being the big tet apologists that I am, I always
get deep into these and suckered in for defense. Slow
it down, right. I always like three yards in a
cloud of dust on my football teams, and then that's
what wins in March, right, and then Tiller and Breeze
ruined all that and my conference changed. Now it's eighteen teams.
But you know, but in March, right, it's got to

(44:31):
slow down, right, guard, play, front, court, discipline, all of
those things that come come to bear right in that
because most of those games are going to be hotly contested.
But trying to sort out the noise. We just did
it with the College Football Playoff Jared of you know
which teams just you know, rankings and who they're beating,
how much that matters versus wins. Right, those were fights

(44:55):
we were literally having on airs like well, you one
who was in front of you. I can't ask for
much more than that, or I shouldn't. But now we
want to, you know, get into a more nuanced thing
as some of the conferences feel they're you know, more
deserving than others and certainly bring more to the table financially.
So that's certainly the case. My my big takeaway with

(45:16):
this is just the coolness of here's one of the
old guys, when one after another they've lined up to exit.
You know, here's your gold watch. Here's a nice round
of applause and walking away citing all of the changes
to college athletics. So that's why Patino and Izzo and
these kind of guys, you know, the ones that are

(45:38):
finding a way in a different space. By the way,
Rick Patino now says this is his last job. Wasn't
iona supposed to be his last job?

Speaker 3 (45:46):
And then the Johnnies come calling name into the mid Sure,
that's another guy that's kind of had a second act,
you know, the fallout after Tennessee took four years off,
and then this is it's crazy to think this is
tenth year and either through eleventh year at Aburn. He's
been an Auburn since twenty fifteen. He's been there a long time.
And this is the first year I think since the
Final Four run in twenty nineteen, where like that came

(46:09):
from out of nowhere. They were a five seed that
year they made the Final four. They just made so
many shots. It was just like Wow. This year they
are the best team in the country. Like, I'll come
out and say it right now. It's February twenty third,
it's ten oh seven am here in Vegas. Auburn's winning
the national championship this year in college basketball. Like, I
firmly believe they're the mentally toughest team, and they can

(46:30):
win in multiple ways. They can slow it down, they
can win a game sixty seven sixty like they did
against Arkansas the other night. They can win a game
ninety four eighty five like they did against Bama a
few nights prior to that. So I think that's where
Auburn kind of checks every box and Bruce Pearl's done
an incredible job.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
The SEC is having a year.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
We might talk about this year like, depending on how
the bracket and the matchup shakeout. I wouldn't be shocked
if three or four Final four teams come from the SEC,
like that's how good the SEC is this year.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
Well, that'll make them feel better after what happened in
the world and then everyone fail.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
The SEC is a basketball conference.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
Now see hot take nonsense on a Sunday morning, as
you get in cutting print that they're a basketball conference.
I like what you did there. Since we're going deeper
into the college buckets world, you know you've got them
running and cutting down the nets. How deep is the
field and pool of teams that could legitimately win it.
It's a good question your estimation.

Speaker 3 (47:26):
I think there's one or two teams in each major
conference that is the one or two teams. I think
the SEC maybe has four teams. I think I'm throwing
BAM out. Honestly, I don't think Bama come win a
national championship. I think it's Auburn. I think it's Florida.
I think it's Tennessee. I would say that's probably where
I draw the line. Acc Obviously it's Duke. I don't

(47:48):
think there's anyone else in the a SEC that can
win it. Although Clemson's given me some nice runs, they're
kind of giving me those warm and fuzzies where they
maybe can be a second weekend team. I think in
the Big Ten it's probably two or three deep. I
absolutely think Wisconsin and Michigan State are legit. Maryland is interesting.
Maryland is starting to give me some Maybe they have

(48:09):
a little bit of a run in them and then
out West, I don't know. I like Gonzaga just continues
to come up small in these big games against teams
like Saint Mary's, which are teams that they're gonna have
to face in March, which are good defensive teams that
slow it down.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
I think I always stated they get healthy.

Speaker 3 (48:24):
Has a case they made a nice run last year,
but they're missing a couple of key pieces right now.
They're two best players actually, Gilbert and Jones, so I
will see. And in Houston, I think Houston's the other
team we haven't mentioned that certainly deserves some recognition. So
I would say maybe eight to ten teams it would
be on my list, And usually it's pretty balanced.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
You know.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
You look at ken Palm and you look at teams
that are in the top twenty five or maybe the
top forty of offensive and defensive ratings, and any team
that isn't balanced like that, like any team, for example,
like a Missouri that's top ten in offense but outside
the top fifty in defense, or Bama who's fantastic on
offense doesn't defend. Really hard to make a strong case
for those teams to win six games and make it

(49:05):
all the way to the end.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
Always try to figure out balances and everything else. Chris,
let me tag you in Yeah, at Chris Profett where
you find him on Twitter. You'd like to to add
ask Jared something.

Speaker 8 (49:15):
It was just a quick question, like, because I watched
that Michigan State Michigan game last night, I know Michigan's
been ranked very well. But is that the game where
you just kind of look at them and go, all right,
they're just not They're not one of these teams this year.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
Well, the problem is.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
They're a big, heavy team. And I like their bigs.
I think they're BIG's wolf and Golden. Remember Golden from
the FAU run and Danny Wolfe had that nice run
at Yale. Like, I think those guys are incredibly talented players.
But in March, you need guards to handle the basketball,
handle the pressure. And when you rely on your bigs,

(49:48):
who's going to handle the ball. And I think you
saw that with Michigan State the other night, Like you know,
at the end of the game in the second half,
Michigan State just blitzed them defensively and they turn it
over fifteen times. Like that's how you lose game as
in March, and then you don't, you know, go five
for twenty one from the arc because you just don't
have a ton of a backcourt presence. So I like
Michigan as a regular season team. I just think in

(50:08):
a one game scenario against a really good defensive backcourt,
they're going to struggle to handle the ball.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
Yeah. I always get myself into I'm getting suckered in
by IZO again, obviously the celebration of the veteran veterans.
But once upon a time it was all right, we're
getting to March. It's ISO time. And yep, more times
than not, my bracket has a lot of red associated
with that squad, and just you know, you're hoping for
something a little different, Like you know, the emotions play in, right,

(50:35):
you develop these things. Folks can deny it all they want,
and you know most can't just go to the hard numbers.
And I certainly have not drawn up my eighty eighty
variable algorithm to pick. Are you a one bracket guy,
Mike one?

Speaker 1 (50:53):
Yeah, you got to have the sheet of integrity.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
That the old Mike and Mic run. Yeah, that was
their bit, right. It's like I can't do multiple no
like once and then you start.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
This is why I stopped playing fantasy football, because it's
like I'm doing the gambling thing every week and I
have my fantasy team and it was like I'm being pulled.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
It's like a torture chamber. I'm being pulled in all
these different directions. See.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
I always had the the thoughts with that is I'll
take as many points as are out there, and that's
fine because people football players, right when I've been doing
the fantasy side a long time, right, it's like then
expand into more generalized sports talk, you know, as we
talk about you know, betting and spots, but you can
talk other things, right. It's it's that kind of thing,

(51:35):
and you do the breath of it. But back in
the day when money was flowing in the Silicon Valley,
I was working at Yahoo when I went and did
an event, and he had a bunch of former NFL players.
I mean, they were getting paid to be there, so
they were happy to be there. But privately they're all
asking me questions about, you know, how do you reconcile
some of this stuff. I don't think you're a real
fan if you're playing this. And I laughed, and I go,

(51:55):
all right, how many shutouts are there in the NFL
every year?

Speaker 1 (51:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (51:59):
And they look at me, like to a man, they
would do the same thing. They'd look at me and go,
maybe what are you getting at? Maybe one, maybe three,
five in a good year. If we've really got a
bad team, maybe you just have a horrible run where
they get shut out a couple of times. Fluky things,
but overall someone's scoring points. Yeah, And so they're like,
so you're a Chicago kid, so you could draft Brett

(52:22):
Favre and not worry about I'm like, right, because I
just will now root for the Packers to lose thirty
one to twenty eight every week, and.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
They lost a lot of those games high scoring because
Brett Favre was a gunslinger, right, fantasy culture whatever, and
into the to the gambling culture. Like I think there's
they're very connected, but they're also very different where I
think gambling is more nuanced. Where this is why props
would become very popular because it is directly connected to
fantasy culture and it's an easy bridge to get from Oh,

(52:53):
I want Brett fav to have a high scoring game too.
I want Brett fav to throw three touchdowns so he
goes over to and a half, right, like like that's a.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
Very very easy thing.

Speaker 3 (53:00):
Whereas the you know, oh, the spread being three and
the key numbers and all the stuff that Crack likes
to talk about on Sundays with the Countdown Show and
NFL like, it can be a little more nuanced. And
when it's hard to understand, people tend to stay away.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
Well, now you start changing it up by making it
easy the just hey over under, what are you thinking
of a guy's stats?

Speaker 1 (53:19):
Right?

Speaker 2 (53:20):
You know, and multiple operations here. I don't have them
on my chest here at the moment, so we won't
attribute it to any individual company for the moment. But
it's just that kind of thing, right, It's like you
did all of these sports everything. It's all about accessibility.
Going back to the conversation we did last hour talking
about the NHL and trying to capitalize as a hockey

(53:42):
society coming off the Four Nations and heading towards the
Olympics next year in Italy and everything in between is
accessibility and making things digestible, and that's part part of
the betting side. I think, you know, it's like anything.
It's like if I understand the language and the parlance,
and I can get through some of the paralyzed by

(54:05):
data because you can certainly subscribe to plenty services that'll
spit a bunch of numbers out at you. Oh no, lostyles, right.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
I struggle with that.

Speaker 3 (54:13):
I have to mute a lot of really smart people
during football season on my social media because I get
overwhelmed by it and it's.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
Not a personal thing. It's just like you're really aggressive
with your numbers and there's just too many numbers.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
Yeah, it can certainly bogg you down, but they're fun
to use on air here Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports
Sunday Mike Carbon alongside Jared Smith. You know, reasons, excuses, arguments,
all of those fun things, you know, because we play
fun with numbers. When we look at the end of
a year, did a guy have a good year or not?
If I show you Patrick Mahomes' stat line for the year,
you go, that's not a bad season. But you watched

(54:45):
the product week to week and said, I don't know.
They won, so they hit the main objective. But trying
to figure out what's noise, what's reality, and everywhere in between.
As we continue, we will circle back to a topic
that we have teased, the MLB rights issue, and it
goes back to the NHL right where you're trying to
find your product accessibility. On a whole other level. We'll

(55:08):
talk about the big Landmark deal, well that is no
more and what's next as Major League Baseball with Rob Manford.
There you go, sarcasm bucket under me leading the charge
at Jared Smith bets on Twitter. Find me over at
swollen Ome. We'll do that next year on Fox. Hey,
welcome back in It's Fox Sports Sunday. Here Fox Sports

(55:30):
Radio Mike Carmon alongside Jared Smith at Jared Smith Bets
on Twitter. You find me over at swollen Gnome. Hear
me during the week seven to eleven Pacific with Jason
Smith another Smith. If I start writing Jay Smith on things,
you guys are going to get some really weird messages
that you don't understand. This could get fun, It's could
get interesting, no question about it. But glad to have

(55:52):
you with with a here on this beautiful Sunday. So
much going on. We've got college buckets, men and women's side.
We had action on the pitch. We've got NBA action
kicking off as well. Boston twenty to ten over New York.
About halfway through the first we'll get an update. Mancy
Belanos in the chair with us this hour. Good to

(56:14):
see her this fine morning. She's going to factor into
the last story that we do in about twenty minutes
or so, and it relates to something an NBA superstar said,
but we'll get into that a little bit later. We
were talking about the NHL and opportunities growth the old
dark Knight joker aggressive expansion, or at least hold your

(56:37):
ground and maybe find some more solid footing with the
casual non hockey officionado right, open it up as an
alternative programming, second screen experience. Whatever it is. You need
more eyeballs, you need more people talking about it, and
certainly you flow from there coming out of the Four Nations,
but from Major League Baseball the story of the week,

(56:58):
and it ties together because we're always looking at rights
deals and money flowing in and certainly a lot of
folks doing the hand ringing every time there's a new
streaming game that goes off to the isolation chamber, right
the NFL. Hey, here's what we're gonna do for Black Friday.
Here's what we're gonna do here, here's what we did
for Thursday nights. Now you gotta go. You all have

(57:20):
Amazon anyway, get over it. You know, all of those
kind of things. As we flow through, Jared that Major
League Baseball and ESPN decide to I don't think they
shook hands at least the way things are coming out
in the aftermath, but they walk away from their deal.
Estimated five hundred and fifty dollars is the disputed sum

(57:43):
of it all in terms of walking away. But Rob
Manford and company on their side saying, well, we get
short shrift right. Every anything Lebron does, stubs his toe,
has a glass of wine, post to social media gets
more run than guys signing four hundred million or contracts
in Major League Baseball game coverage and opportunities for their promotion.

(58:08):
There go back to ESPN Radio, which is now part
of this as well. But all of it to say,
for me and for Rob Manford based on what we've
seen with rights. Because I remember this in the infancy
of things when I was starting to do a fantasy
football show many many years ago, is right before the
NFL Network was formed and announced. I was on something

(58:31):
called Just the Football Network, and basically we had a
show and the idea was to expand the catalog. They
were in the rights negotiations for some of the NFL
films and from some lower tier college games, and we
were going to do a fantasy show. And then it
got picked up on Spike TV. So you went straight
from a Baywatch episode into me because it used to

(58:54):
be Bawatch. Yeah, I mean this was even the infancy
of Spike TV, so Cheaters, yes, and some kind of
dating show and Baywatch, and then you'd have us And
I guess I was really entertaining for my segments because
I had Jerry Glandville on there with me. Jeffrey, Oh,
he's a piece of work man, that's one of my

(59:14):
favorite guys, Very kind to me, and we'd go back
and forth during those segments. But all of that to say,
NFL Network gets announced, all those rights that they were
trying to get for NFL films obviously go away, and
the rights deals for live events were really aggressively competitive

(59:35):
then versus what we have now with all the streaming
services and everybody wanting, you know, to plant their flag
in different points of this. But all that to say,
there's a lot of money out there right for Adam
silver Loo, Like he had to wear it on a
million things over the All Star Break, competitiveness of games,
the length of the season, the failed Mark Williams trade,

(59:58):
all of these things going on on, you know, some
of the smirching of the good name of Luka Doncic
and whatever else. But he got a lot of clicks,
got a lot of eyeballs, a lot of attention for
the NBA, and from one week it was not negative.
But what he kept trumpeting was, here's my one cheter
on everything we're doing internationally. Here's what we're doing all
over social media, and oh yeah, we signed a seventy

(01:00:20):
six billion dollars rights deal. Check and mate. So for
Major League Baseball I like that Rob Bamford and company
put their feet in the ground. You know, ESPN is important.
It's not the only place out there, right, It's not
like it was fifteen twenty years ago, where you might
have just left your television on and watched eight straight
hours of the evening Sports Center. Like it's a new world.

(01:00:44):
So for Rob Manford and company, hey, it's a new frontier.
Hopefully you hire some smart people because once upon a time,
folks forget this. I was at Yahoo when it happened. Boy,
I'm really aging myself again. But they bought Mark Cuban's company, right,
that's how he becomes the billionaire. And it was about
he wanted to stream Indiana basketball from wherever he was,
so they built this thing broadcast and it was all

(01:01:07):
set to go. Major League Baseball was one of the
what was the first to really embrace the idea of
you know, our fans should be able to get our
product anywhere. Yes, And I remember, you know, some trouble
shooting some great stories for the book I'll probably never write.
But how some of those deals came to play back
in the day. So they've been forward thinking. Here's another

(01:01:28):
opportunity to go find some greatness in the horizon.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
Well.

Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
I work for MLB dot Com back in the twenty
sixteen twenty seventeen eighteen time frame, and they were always
ahead of the curve with the direct to consumer stuff.
And the way that they stream the games now is
a it's a quality product like baseball is meant for streaming,
it's meant for re like baseball is a regional sport.

(01:01:53):
And I think that's where when ESBN kind of lost
a little bit of their national luster, and let's be honest,
cables kind of taking a turn, and that is where
the linear channel gets most of their loves. It's tough,
and I agree with your assessment on Manfred. I think
the way that the landscape is currently constructed major League
Baseball needs to be very regionalized and very streaming focused.

(01:02:17):
Now it does open up ESPN for more things, But
at the end of the day, I think it's more
about what's best for baseball, because Rob Manford's right, the
NBA gets treated differently than baseball does, and to be fair,
a lot of that is kind of Manfred's fault because
they don't market their players very well and the season's
really long, and so it's all about finding the right

(01:02:40):
match and it's really hard to find that because I
think in general, there's so many new streaming sites coming
up that we're still in the middle of this renovation,
this technological digital revolution, like we're still maybe we're like
halfway through it, maybe we're two thirds of the way
through it. But there's still gonna be new streaming sites,
and there's gonna be current sites like Netflix and Apple,

(01:03:00):
Amazon Prime that are going to increase their sports portfolios
over the next five to ten years. I wouldn't be
shocked if a significantly more number of NFL games over
the next decade goes to the streaming platforms. But in general,
baseball and streaming makes a lot of sense, and I
think this is just a kind of step in the
direction we probably should have gone a few years ago,

(01:03:20):
because nobody can baseball on a national scale is not
something that the public is very interested in. It starts
and this is Baseball's fault. Can we stop starting the
season in the middle of the night in Korea?

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
Like?

Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
Can we have an opening day where all thirty two
teams are playing in America during the daylight? Like that
would help? And then when we end the season, we're
in the middle of football. So it's just it's a
really tough length of a campaign to really wrap your
arms around from a national television perspective, and I think
that's why this deal had to get dissolved.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
Well, when you start getting all the parsing down where
you can regionalize it, localize it, right, I want to
just have the radio and TV streams for my team. Right,
there's so many of the micro billing opportunities that you
have with this, you know, to get into folks passions.
I know the NFL network ESPN talks, they're saying those

(01:04:17):
might have resurrected. So from them, that's another half a
billion dollars in terms of you know, purchase price and
negotiations and acquisition and integration kind of money there as
you flow it through. Jared like all of that to say,
you know, Major League Baseball has like we talked about
with the National Hockey League last hour, you got a

(01:04:39):
lot of guys that are stars. And certainly when you
looked at Team Canada, it was like if you follow
hockey at all, it was one after another. Right, Baseball,
same thing.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
I talked about the rip night that Tops did right
in their partnership with Fanatics as they start to take
over the trading card world. Last night, they had this
event all over the place and they had a lot
of wrestlers out here. The Miz did a spot up
in Burbay. Well, he pulls an eight of ten rock
autograph like he recognized, Hey, this is big. It's an autograph.
It's probably like a ten thousand dollars card, if not more.

(01:05:12):
That goes like he's just holding it like yeah, this
is cool. But either way, so you had no hoaks
lined off all over the place. The guys, some of
the guys that got the best responses over in clear Water,
Vladimir Guerrero Junior, who people are finally starting to hear
from a little bit. Right as he's talking about his
future and everything else, he shows up, Mike Trout shows up.
He's a big card collector building a big collection of

(01:05:35):
his own stuff. He bought eight thousand dollars worth of
boxes to folks and hung out. It's like, we need
more of that Mike Trout, we need more.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
Of that guy. He's not very marketable.

Speaker 3 (01:05:46):
Yeah, Baseball doesn't have a lot of those stars like Aaron, Like,
for example, the last MVPs.

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
Aaron Judge and Shoe a Otani.

Speaker 3 (01:05:54):
One of them doesn't speak English and the other one
is is is like a mountain of a man and
he doesn't have this really big, mountainous personality like it's
it's a very unique like baseball players for the most part,
you do not see like is there one right now
that you could say, oh, yeah, that's going to be
the future media star of the sport, Like there isn't one,

(01:06:16):
Whereas the NFL doesn't have that problem.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
The NBA certainly does.

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
Everyone wants to be everyone wants a podcast in the NBA,
the NHL. If you had to rank the sports in
terms of personalities, NHL and Major League Baseball are distant,
like there's a big gap between one and two NBA,
NFL and then the bottoms. I would actually say golf
is probably ahead, like the golfing personalities.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
Those guys are absolutely getting rock stars.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
Yeah, car drivers they all like because people have always
leaned into the star on mentality. There.

Speaker 3 (01:06:47):
Those are individual sports, which makes it a little bit easier.
And obviously the NFL has the quarterback nature and the
wide receiver nature which can be divas in their own sense.
But the biggest problem that baseball and hockey have is
that lack of media star right now, and that's why
you're seeing the television contracts draft. I mean, go look
at the average salary. Baseball is weird because there's no

(01:07:07):
salary cap, so hockey's obviously the one. Like go look
at the average salary of an NHL player compared to
an NBA player, Like it is, it's crazy the difference
between And they're both playing professional sports.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
In North America at the men's level.

Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
Like, there shouldn't be that big of a gap, but
there is because they're just not as marketable.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
Supply demand and get in there and sell, sell, sell,
go into the ancillary markets, including the betting markets. An
interest in accessibility. Right, I'm five foot seven, fire plug,
I should have been on skates. Guess what grew up
where we had no ice? Anywhere near us and back
then play it against sports and some of those other.

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
Play it again in the sport. I used to buy
my gear from there.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
But you know what I mean, like, we didn't have
a lot of those yeses like back. I mean, that's
how old I am. I'll age myself. I crossed over
into the second half. I'm at fifty one. But we
didn't have those things is available to us, certainly you
didn't have you know, these different online marketplaces. So there
was no chance in hell my parents were gonna be
able to a drive us, you know, to the north side,

(01:08:11):
do an ice rink, be pay for three of us
for skating lessons, ice time and all the.

Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
Equipment like jockeys sports, So is golf. That's why basketball,
because all you need is a bond who that's it.
You don't even need another person.

Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
No you don't, right, I mean go out on and
go out on the black top, roll a garbage can
in front of your run that right. Soccer, Eventually you
need spacing and whatever else as you do basketball, but
you can practice an awful lot of individual skills before
you even get anybody else involved. But all that to say,
big opportunity, Uh, for Major League Baseball, and I don't

(01:08:47):
buy that show hao Tony doesn't speak English. I'm just
throwing it out there publicly basically be left alone.

Speaker 3 (01:08:57):
Yes, agreed, And especially after the scandal of last year,
speaking of gambling.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
Which got swept under a rug really really fast.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
It really wasn't his fault.

Speaker 3 (01:09:06):
Really honestly, based on all the information that I've done,
I'm I'm very unbiased with this stuff. It really does
look like he got Now it's crazy that one of
the richest and most powerful people in sports could get
you know, the wool pull over there pulled over their
eyes so so, you know, harshly, but that is what
it appeared to happen. Like I listened to the phone
records of this guy trying to like act like he

(01:09:28):
was show on the phone with the bank.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
Yeah, it's just curious the you know, the the amount
of power that Ebe had right that there weren't more
checks and balances and dreams of large amounts of money
being siphoned off of accounts. But that's a whole other thing.
Really quick, since we talked, you know, little betting scandal.
What do you think Fresno State sits down a couple
of players amid an investigation that they think might be

(01:09:56):
they're sat down indefinitely. But some betting irregular layer he's
related to there a you know, how big does this go?
How much does it got to get pushed to the
backdrop with you know, as we get ready for March
madness and be how easy slash likely? Is this a
more pervasive issue?

Speaker 1 (01:10:16):
Great questions.

Speaker 3 (01:10:19):
I think to answer one the first question, I think
it is a pretty important story because I think it's
becoming a trend. And that's what scares me is the
ease of access. And it don't get me wrong, I'm
I think gambling, just like anything else, like any other
vice in our country, alcohol, tobacco, whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
Moderation is key. I think we are in an era now.

Speaker 3 (01:10:42):
That it's so easily accessible and the information is so
widely out there, and there's so much hubrius around it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
That's the problem that I have, Mike.

Speaker 3 (01:10:51):
Like they did Ay, the NCAA actively polls the student athletes,
and that's how they kind of find out some of
this information is going on behind the scenes. This particular
poll that the NCAA took about Fresno State, half of
the male student athletes who are gambling think they can win.
By the way, only about one percent of gamblers maybe

(01:11:13):
less than that win long term. Like, you don't win
at this long term unless you are a professional. And
I think the hubris that men and it's funny because
they pulled the same female student athletes's only about twenty
three percent of them thought they could.

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
Win long term. So there's are toxic masculinity summed up
in just a quick pull right there.

Speaker 3 (01:11:31):
But the men that are doing this, that think they
can win long term, that are betting these crazy things,
that's where I get scared, because you have to It's
all about education, Like we have to educate, you know,
the student athletes to saying listen, it might be accessible
and just because you're twenty one and it's legal, doesn't
mean you should be doing it at scale. The second
part of this is I hope that by making a

(01:11:53):
strong example of some of these players and some of
these situations, it will deter some things in the long
run from continuing, because it is becoming a trend right now.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
He's Jared, He's Jared Smith, I'm b Myke Carbon, It's
Fox Sports Sunday. Here, Fox Sports Radio We've got food
in a big anniversary to finish the show off. But
first we talked to Manzi Belagias over at the news desk.
She's got everything that's trending in our sporting world. What's Jazzi?

Speaker 11 (01:12:19):
What what's up?

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
Happy Sunday?

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
Back to you, Jed.

Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
How's Jackpot?

Speaker 1 (01:12:23):
Oh, he's sleeping right now.

Speaker 3 (01:12:25):
He's ready to get dad off the air so we
can go outside and point.

Speaker 11 (01:12:28):
Let me tell you what I wish I was doing sleeping.

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
I was doing the best life in the world. Just
sleeps all that.

Speaker 11 (01:12:33):
I'm jealous of Jackpot right now in this moment.

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
Right Like the name, Yeah, no.

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
It's a great name for Vegas.

Speaker 11 (01:12:39):
Thought, it's perfect, It's absolutely perfect. We'll start in the
NBA fellows. Josh Hart back in the lineup for the Knicks.
He missed last two games with a knee injury. He's
got nine points. But it's really been all Celtics so far.

Speaker 2 (01:12:51):
Against the Knicks.

Speaker 11 (01:12:52):
They're up forty to twenty three early in the second quarter,
forty to twenty six now. But the Celtics shooting really well,
not just from the three point line, but just across
the core in general. Jason Tatum has ten points so
far in this one. They're also the Knicks are expecting
to get Mitchell Robinson back really soon. According to ESPN,
he's closing in on his season debut and that his

(01:13:14):
goal is to be back at some point this week.
The Knicks currently third in the Eastern Conference. Celtic's currently
second in the Eastern Conference. In men's college, Hoo's Saint
John's tenth ranks. Saint John's is on top of Yukon
fifty nine to forty five with about fourteen minutes to
go in the game, and you can catch all the
action on Fox. On the women's side, it's been back
and forth between the number one team Notre Dame and

(01:13:36):
thirteenth ranked NC State. Right now, NC State is up
seventy four to seventy three with two minutes to go
in this one, and on the ice, no, Alexovechkin has
not scored, even though we're keeping an eye on it
to see if he breaks Swayne Gretzky's all time goals record,
But the Oilers and the Capitals are currently tied out
win apiece late in the first period.

Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
Back to you guys, thanks so much, Steve, appreciate you.
We're gonna bring you back in because you know, you
have a tradition for the good folks here on Sundays
that they partake in. It's very pivotal to a story
we're going to do next here from the world of
the NBA. He's Jared Smith on Mike Carmen. This is
Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio. We wrap it up next. Hey,

(01:14:18):
welcome back in Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Sunday, Mike
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(01:14:40):
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A couple of housekeeping notes. I said, there's a huge
anniversary a couple of Big ten teams squaring off. A
little bit later on today it is Indiana and Purdue
forty years ago today Bob Knight threw a chair. How

(01:15:03):
do you like that, Jared, forty I just saw that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
I'm watching the game.

Speaker 3 (01:15:07):
They actually have like paddle locks on the chairs now
on like like the chairs court side. They just showed
a picture of the you know, video of the chairs
and there's like, you know, you know the lock you put.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
On your bike when you when you get there. It's weird.
I guess they have the coming memorialize it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
Well, you got that and it gets some run there.
Darren Revel Business and Sports and collectibles and everything. He
estimated that chair, if you could corroborate that it was
the actual chair, would be worth into the six figures.

Speaker 1 (01:15:37):
That doesn't surprise me. Yeah, all for what like a
fifty dollars folding chair?

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:15:41):
Yeah, it's a pretty good ROI. That's the kind of
r I we're looking for in the gambling world, am I.

Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
Yeah, there's no question about it. And anything that you're
involved in, your stock markets, your your long term four
oh one k's, and even your baseball card purchases. Oh
they have to check out stand. I got to hit
a win, no question about it, all right. The last
two things food items. One, be careful where you're you're commenting.
It's a story of a ramen shop in Japan where

(01:16:07):
they're trying to chase down people that left some negative
comments about their service, et cetera. And remember the walls
have ears h and as we know in sports talk radio,
we don't normally get a lot of I love you
guy kind of messages. How many messages of hey, you
got that wrong do you get versus a nice job
and an adda boy. I'm not saying we don't have

(01:16:29):
a wonderful worldwide global audience here at Jared Smith Bets
at Swollen Dome, but certainly we've got that going for us.
I want to do one last story here. We've got
Moncy Blagos in with us at the news desk, and
and this I bring her in because she is so
generous to the group here on Sundays, always carrying in

(01:16:50):
a satchel of food at Monty Bologo, here with Steve
Hartman on Saturday. Here are all over the network. She's
with us this morning. You bring in taco bell. I
do nourish the souls, and anybody knows anything about radio
and TV, feed the people happy.

Speaker 1 (01:17:07):
People, exactly. It's more for me.

Speaker 11 (01:17:09):
So I'm not angry.

Speaker 1 (01:17:10):
What's your taco bell order?

Speaker 5 (01:17:12):
MANSI?

Speaker 11 (01:17:13):
Well, I bring breakfast burritos on Sundays, So I get
the potato one because I don't eat meat, so I
get the potato breakfast burrito, but the fellows get the meat.

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
How do you get your protein?

Speaker 3 (01:17:23):
Because I'm a big I've gotten big into the macros
these days, all about the protein.

Speaker 11 (01:17:27):
I have a lot of I eat a lot of
like just nuts, but beans. I have a lot of
beans as well. I'm Latina, so she's an.

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
Angry and taco about.

Speaker 11 (01:17:34):
You can get like a black bean crunch wrap Supreme, Yeah,
which is phenomenal.

Speaker 3 (01:17:40):
The crunch wraps Ofpremes are just put it up there.
It's like sliced bread. It's like the inventions.

Speaker 1 (01:17:45):
Yeah, it's so good.

Speaker 11 (01:17:46):
And you could do that with you can sub anything
with black beans at talk about, which is really great.

Speaker 2 (01:17:50):
There you go. I bring that up because Nicola Jokic,
you may famously remember on Draft night they had a
Taco bell at running right. So he was asked about
all of this stuff and he said, quote, I've never
had taco bell just because of that.

Speaker 11 (01:18:06):
I mean, he's missing now.

Speaker 1 (01:18:07):
He really is.

Speaker 3 (01:18:09):
Although these days I'm more of a Chipotle mos kind
of of course, you know the level above, like I've
not of graduated from taco bell at this stage, but
it's still it still hits.

Speaker 11 (01:18:19):
The price is completely different.

Speaker 2 (01:18:22):
Well, but that's your thing. Now, we're talking about quantity,
quality exactly, price point right, how inebriated you are all.

Speaker 3 (01:18:28):
Of those things for how late it is at night
after ten pm the taco bell quottion goes up.

Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
But I throw this out to you, guys. Is there
a food you avoid? Maybe likely not necessarily because of
well maybe or you had it once and you never
came back right for me? It really, I generally.

Speaker 3 (01:18:45):
Don't really into Indian food curry. The smell of it
just turns me off. But delicious at its core. I
just I had a bad experience with it once. It
was too spicy in the curry flavor. It just like
so I get like queasy sometimes.

Speaker 2 (01:18:59):
Aversion to that. Okay, Chris, you had one.

Speaker 8 (01:19:02):
Doesn't matter how far the next stop is. And I
say this doing my mother loves Wopper Juniors. I cannot
stand talking burger kitting. Okay, I cannot do burger king anymore.
Every time I've tried, and I used to like their
chicken sandwiches, it does not sit with well with me
at all.

Speaker 5 (01:19:15):
Something about it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:16):
I've just gone just generally to hot dogs as a
food group. Really because somebody, uh my mom bought some
cheap hot dogs for a party once upon a time
and my lips swelled like I was Mick Jagger because
of the night trades. Oh wow, wow, very bad.

Speaker 1 (01:19:30):
You gotta be careful. You don't want to know how
the sausage is made with those things.

Speaker 2 (01:19:34):
Yeah, so the street meets we were talking about with
Shay earlier literally not in for me, There's no question.
Thanks Bontie, Thanks Chris, Thanks Shay. Jared fun working with you.
We'll do it again. Steven Rich coming up next on
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