Jason Fitz & Buck Reising React LIVE to the Deebo Trade, Talk NFL Scouting Combine & More!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. I get it.
Everybody wants a quarterback. Everybody needs a quarterback. We're watching
the combine trying to figure out how our favorite football
teams can get a quarterback. We're obsessed over what's happening
with veterans that may not even be that great, because
if your favorite team stinks, you desperately want a quarterback.

(00:23):
But I grew up with an important phrase. My mom
used to always say, people in hell on ice water,
just because you need a quarterback doesn't mean there's one
there for you. And unfortunately this year, if your favorite
team needs a quarterback, you're screwed. There's no nice way
to say it. It's a Fox Football Saturday on Fox
Sports Radio. It's fucking fits. He's buck rising on Jason

(00:46):
Fitz For the next two hours. We are gonna take
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should be. Buck Rising. First of all, you're an American

(01:08):
hero for even making it to the airwaves, because, as
we just heard everybody talking about, you were in Indianapolis
all week. We'll talk about that in a minute. You
saw all of the chaos of the combine up close
and personal. First and foremost, how long do you have
to detox after you get back from Indie, Brother?

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Entirely too long at this point, FITZI.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
And also I want you, I want you to slow
down when you say buck and fits, because I.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Don't trust you.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
You're not nearly good enough of a professional broadcaster to
be able to nail the dismount on that. We'll find
out together. But I'm well, Indianapolis was great. It is
my favorite week of the year because it's lying, it's chaos,
it's drinking, it's late nights, it's all the.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Great things that you want.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
And you know, you may even get a little dust
up at a Starbucks if you're not careful.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yeah, I mean you number one brother, watch your sas,
all right, because if this thing gets sassy, you and
I are going to Starbucks. Your order is going to
be much manlier than I You're also much taller than I,
and which means there'll be a lot of slap fighting.
It won't work out for anybody, kind of like, go ahead, yeah,
go ahead.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
I was just gonna say, you overestimate my manliness of
my coffee order. I'm a very very big fan of
the spice dirty chai latte. Two shots I've got.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
I've gotten to the point now where I actually put
my order in the app because I'm too embarrassed. Even
if I'm standing in the Starbucks, I still press the
go mobile order because I don't want to have to
actually say out loud what I order from anyone. So look,
I get it. Like I live in Harvard. We'll get
to I know I have. Well, that's not new news
to anybody. Okay, quarterbacks are everywhere. We're watching quarterbacks throw.

(02:42):
They're throwing right now at the combine. We've seen all
of the hype or all of the questions. Now we
hear all the rumors should do or might be falling.
He might not even be the second best quarterback in
the land for this upcoming draft. And I keep thinking
about this book. You live in Nashville, you cover the Titans.
I have been a lifelong diehard Raiders fan. Everybody knows
that both of the teams that were around all the time,

(03:02):
I would argue, have desperate quarterback needs. But here's like,
you know somebody in your life that inevitably gets engaged
at some point because they've been together a long time,
they're like, well, you know what, it's just time we
needed to do this. That romance never works out. And
I keep thinking about this because, frankly, I don't believe
that there is a franchise saving quarterback available in this

(03:25):
year's draft. I don't believe there's a franchise saving quarterback
that's going to hit free agency. I genuinely believe. Hear
me loud on this America. If your favorite team needs
a quarterback, you are done. You're gonna stink next year.
That should be your goal, because next year, maybe you
can get one. I don't think there's even a person
that will hit the market available that can save a team.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
I love the idea of us starting this first broadcast
together in front of a nationally televised audience. You're giving
people relation advice or relationship advice that's likely, you know,
triggering to some out there that would say you know what,
if you've been with your significant other for a long
enough period of time, Guess what if you're getting engaged now,
it's not gonna work out. Well done by you. And

(04:07):
also we're going to disagree in the first what five
minutes that we've been on the air, because you have
no earthly idea. The fact that you feel comfortable asserting
that level of opinion about these quarterbacks before we've even
seen them play a single professional football snapfitsie. I just
it's complete and total nonsense to me. You don't know
that nobody knows.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
But all you can do is use the information you
have and make a best guess. Like Matt Miller is
somebody I know very well. Over at ESPN does great
work covering the draft. He put out his quarterback and
this is the pre draft scores of every quarterback drafted
in the first round in the last five years. And
he put the score currently for cam and Shador in this.
So this is based on everybody doing the same thing. Right,

(04:51):
He's taking only the body of work of what they
did in college to say, Okay, where did they score
coming into the combine? And that's important context because he
has cam Ward at eighteen and Chaduur at twenty, Zach
Wilson high above the rest of these. Bryce Young, high
above the rest of the Sure, you never have any
idea when somebody's drafted, but all you can do is
make your best guess based on the film that you

(05:13):
have and the insight you have and what scouts can
figure out and buck when you look at all of that,
like it, just Cam and Chaduur in a normal draft
would not be the one and two picks. They'd be
late first rounders. They're guys that might need a little
bit of time. They're guys that need to go to
the right organization. I hope I'm wrong. I hope they
turn out to be great. I hope one of them
it becomes a Hall of Fame quarterback for my favorite

(05:34):
football team, because it sucks when you don't have one.
But realistically, based only on the knowledge we have right now,
which is their film and what you can sort of
try and translate from college and the combine to the pros,
neither of these guys stand out even the way somebody
as trash as Zach Wilson did.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
I need you to hear me on this, Okay, I
want you to listen very very closely to me.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
I have a sentual voice. It's hard not to go ahead.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
People like you are the problem, all right with this
quarterback situation.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
You you are the problem, Yes you.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
I am so tired of people expecting, first and foremost
any of these rookie quarterbacks who have never played in
the National Football League to be the savior of a
franchise right away.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
It doesn't work like that.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
We are currently going through a quarterback development crisis in
the NFL. I know because I've watched it. I've watched
it with Marcus Mariota. I've just witnessed a different kind
of disaster with the Mayo King himself. Will Levis up
close and personal. I've heard Kevin O'Connell, the coach of
the Year of the Minnesota Vikings, talk about how organizations
are ruining quarterbacks far faster than quarterbacks are failing organizations,

(06:40):
and it's because we set these outrageous expectations. And I'm
really talking about ownership more than I am fans.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Fans don't really.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
Have any control over this, but ownership also can be
influenced by a number of different things. I don't know
how you feel about your ownership group.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
But I have particularly strong.

Speaker 4 (06:59):
No.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
But then then what is discerning about Mark Davis? If
he loses the haircut, what does he have?

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Shameful?

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Just a weird pea of change orders? Go ahead?

Speaker 3 (07:09):
No, Okay, point is though, these quarterbacks are not finished products,
none of them. Trevor Lawrence a consensus number one overall
pick at quarterback, Nobody disputing that he is the most
underachieving pro football player right now.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
Joe Burrow an excellent quarterback.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
What of these fire breathing dragons that every franchise in
the world would give an arm and a leg for
and he could just barely finish with a winning record
and miss the playoffs because one player is not enough.
There is no quarterback savior ever. It is about building
the best possible team. And to try and do this
thing with quarterbacks year over year over year over year,

(07:49):
as if it's not just totally a product of the
circumstances around you, as if there's only as if there's
not only five or six of these guys that could
legitimately save a franchise. You, Jason Fitz, and people like you,
are the problem.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
Okay, here's buck rising up. Jason Fitz it's bucking fits
on Fox Sports Radio and on Fox Football Saturday. Thank you.
Here's the thing, man, Now, you're not wrong in what
you're saying. You are wrong in the way you're perceiving it,
because realistically the problem here, everything you just said is
absolutely correct. But those are the variables I can't change.

(08:25):
I can't change the fact that most football teams are
gonna waste a quarterback, right, so you better get so
lucky that you get a quarterback that can rise above. Now,
this is where everybody says, well, you know, you never know. Okay,
I'll say this. I was standing on the sideline when CJ.
Stroud ripped through the college football playoffs, and I looked
at our buddy, our mutual friend, Harry Douglass, and a
bunch of the ESPN people I was standing on that

(08:46):
sideline with at the time, and we all said the
same thing. My guy just made himself a lot of
money in that Georgia game, right, because you knew, you
just knew. I stood on the sidelines when Joe Burrow
was winning a national championship, and I looked at a
bunch of the analysts and I said, why are we
not talking about Joe the way we talked about Andrew
Luck and everybody said, man, we should be We knew right.
I spent all last year talking about Jayden Daniels and

(09:08):
why my beloved Raiders needed to offer. I didn't care
if you offered a decade a draft picks, you suck
at the draft anyway, trade them all, go get Jayden Daniels.
And I've had people tell me that the sorry the
Washington Commanders were offered as much as three first rounders
and two second rounders for Jaden Daniels to move up,
and they said no. So there are guys that you
can look at and say, you know what, he might

(09:30):
not work, but damn it, I will leverage everything on
that guy. That's all you can hope is that you
get to the damnit i' leverage everything. Because if you're
in the AFC and you don't have Joe Burrow, you
don't have Patrick Mahomes, you don't have Josh Allen, you
don't have Lamar Jackson, you don't have like I'm listing
guys that are all at this point look like they're
all headed to the Hall of Fame in one conference, right,

(09:52):
So if you don't have that guy, you don't have
a chance, but you at least most years have a
couple of guys you can look at and say, might
not work. But man, I will risk feeding lit Timmy.
I'll risk the way I feed my family to move
up for that guy. I just don't think Camera should
do her either. One is that guy. So now, if
you're the Giants or the Raiders, or the Jets or
the Browns, all these teams that might be looking around saying, well, god,

(10:12):
we got to get a quarterback. Okay, congratulations, but you
don't get to rub the lamp and get one to
come out of a bottle and they just ain't one.
You could risk it, but man, are you going to
risk the sixth or fourth overall pick on one of
these guys that may or may not Actually I'm a
best player available, guy, Just go take the best player available,
and Cam and should do are not going to be
the best player.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
Available at that And what I'll tell you is the
team currently with the number one overall pick, the Tennessee Titan,
is the team that I cover on a day to
day basis, is not certain what they want to do
and is taking every possible opportunity to evaluate and basically
listen to offers from teams who are interested in the
number one overall pick.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
And there are some dominoes here that.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Could impact that, that could help them potentially drive up
the amount of draft capital.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
That they can get them.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Sure we're going to talk about the fact that Matt
Stafford is returning to Los Angeles. I'm sure we're going
to talk about the fact that Adams know this.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
If you made the production meeting, go ahead, go ahead,
go ahead. Oh I had to get the dig in
in the first second.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
All right, I've been dropping for a week. All right,
I needed an app so help me. God, I don't apologize.
I'm gonna get through the show regardless. Okay, you and
your FaceTime.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Can eat it.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
Oh, we got a lot to get to. By the way,
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just mentioned Matt Stafford. You just mentioned the combine. Let's
get into that all right. Buck was in Indianapolis all week.

(11:47):
I gotta ask you what happened with Matt Stafford, what
we just saw and what it means for everybody involved.
Plus is there even a point to the combine anymore?
We'll break it down. He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitz.
We're hanging out on a Fox Football Saturday on Fox
Sports Radio.

Speaker 5 (12:02):
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Speaker 3 (12:18):
I will suffer through the worst musical act in the
world if it will just make me seen like I'm
more important than I actually am.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
I'm just envisioning Buck Rising standing side stage at the
Big Time Rush Reunion Tour, singing every song with the
red solo cup in the air because he's getting shmammered
while he's watching it go down, like I need this
in my life.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
You're not that far off.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
I just spent all week on the local show giving
away Sticks tickets, so I'll find find me in a
Sticks concert. Dear you, Welcome back to Fox Sports Saturday.
Jason fitz is staring gleefully at me.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
I'm Buck Rising.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
We're happy to be with you, and we've just been
talking about the fact that if your team needs a
quarterback this offseason, you might be so o l We're
broadcasting live from the tire Raq dot com studios and
we're happy to have you as a part of the program.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
This evening fitsie.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
I have been in Indianapolis all week long at the
NFL Combine. As we just previously discussed, my body is aching.
I have not slept, but I know all manner of
good things and bad things about basically every NFL team
at this point in time, because the best part about
India is taking all these coaches out and all these
scouts out and them telling you all the things that

(13:28):
they're not supposed to say to media vultures like you
and I and I know we're going to dive into
that throughout the course of this segment. Here, I wonder,
what is your most burning question coming out of Indy,
Because we had a ton of news, but not a
lot of movement the way that we expect with players
potentially changing teams with free agency right around the corner

(13:50):
and the new NFL league gear just about on our doorsteps.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
See here's here's what I can't figure out. How is
it the biggest thing that happened at the Combine, which
is Matt Stafford re signing with the Rams, happened for
a team that doesn't even send people to the Combine
like the Rams historically and traditionally don't send their head
coach of their GM. They send a couple of little scouts,
but they don't see any value in the Combine. Yet

(14:16):
we're sitting here finding out about Stafford and the Rams
at Combine when the Rams aren't there. It just feels
it feels wild to me.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
Well, I will stop you there, because they did actually
show up in Indianapolis this time, because they had to
have their quarterback come meet them to negotiate their current situation.
Ultimately for them to basically call Matt Stafford's bluff and
route to him seeking a pay raise, as I believe
he certainly deserves one, and he will get somewhat of
a raise, maybe not quite the rays that he was thinking.

(14:45):
But yeah, to your point that, well, that's the biggest
quarterback domino that the quarterback transactions typically drive the free
agent conversation This year It's really not that interesting of
a quarterback market where Sam Darnold, who is on his
what fourth team, potentially fifth team depending on if he
is tagged by the Minnesota Vikings, were allowed to walk

(15:07):
in free agency. Sam Darnold is the best available free
agent quarterback. And I know that you and I just
talked about this. You're speaking on behalf of the Las
Vegas Raiders, me covering the Tennessee Titans, who have the
number one overall draft pick, both the needs of quarterbacks,
and I don't think either of us are interested in
the services of Sam Darnold at forty million potentially.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Does that inspire you, I'd.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
Take Sam Darnold at forty million over Camera Schadur on
a rookie contract. Oh stop it, stube about.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
Is not outrage outrageous.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
You are not going to tell me sight unseen that
you're going to take the I'm seeing Ghosts guy for
forty million dollars a year over two quarterbacks who have
not yet been sullied by a franchise, a god forsaken
franchise like the New York Jets.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
I think that that Cambidge s door have a better
shot of a career trajectory. Easy for me to say
of the Zack Wilson than they do of Sam darn
I don't think. I don't think Camra should or either
one will be a success man game. Right now, I'm
all Sam at you? Right now, Sam's going to be
a better guy.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
Sam, and I see cam or do the same kind
of things that Patrick Mahomes did as a college prospect.
Am I not able to say, wow, look at that play?
Why do we not give cam Ward the credit when
he has that spectacular level of playmaking in his bag?
When all we do is gush about the plays that
Mahomes used to make, and he doesn't make anymore because

(16:30):
he's got a tight end that needs w D forty
and everybody's playing, you know, two safeties against him, which
does not allow for the explosive plays. Why, Jason Fitz
are you such an unbelievable hater?

Speaker 1 (16:41):
I'm not an unbelievable hater. I just think you know context.
Do you want to watch the second half of the
comeback against Cal and tell me how great it is?
Or do you want to watch first half where he
was wildly inaccurate with the football and created part of
the deficit He was coming back from he didn't have
any defense, he didn't have a lot of help. I
get all of those things.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
In Miami, his defensive coordinator literally got fired.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Yeah, I mean the defense was trash. But and you
could make the argument that he had to press too hard.
But I think, look, if we're being fair for a second,
I was sitting in Nashville with our mutual friend Jared Stillman,
covering the draft in Nashville the year that Patrick Mahomes
was drafted, and you know, nobody saw that coming. To

(17:23):
your point that you've made, Hey, we never really know.
Nobody saw that coming. Also, I don't believe, I still,
to my core, all the way right down to what
I do, not believe that if Patrick Mahomes had been
drafted by the Bears, he'd beat Patrick Mahomes. He had
to go to the right fit, the right place, the
right organization, with an Alex Smith that he's even in
interviews repeatedly credited for his own development, teaching him how

(17:45):
to eat and who to hire, and how to break
down film as a pro and how to structure his week.
And then he's got Andy Reid, who I think, by
the time it's all said and done. History's going to
call the best coach of all time better than Belichick.
So I'm looking around saying, my god, like the number
of variables that were in place. Sure, if cam Ward
can go to a future Hall of Fame coach that's
one of the best ever, sit for a year and

(18:05):
learn under a quarterback that will teach him how to
do everything the way he needs to do it and
adjust properly to the NFL, maybe cam Ward's gonna be great.
But do I trust the Titans, the Browns, the Giants,
the Raiders, or the Jets to do that. No, what
they're gonna do is draft cam throw them out there,
and in a year and a half, when it's just
when he's the guy seeing ghosts because he's part of
a terrible franchise, it's gonna be ruined. Like these are

(18:28):
the You're right, I'm not judging cam Ward. I'm judging
the entirety of the situation cam Ward is likely to
go to when he selected top.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
Five, and you just rattled off so many teams that
have to be just so hard to be a fan
of at this point in time, I mean, really really
difficult for all of these fan bases and that's that,
honestly to me, FITZI coming out of the combine and
talking to as many people as I got the opportunity
to talk to both during the course of the day

(18:58):
and the drills before I left d Inde yesterday to
come back. Obviously, the quarterbacks worked out today and there's
still ongoing dialogue. I'm trying to figure out, and I
know we'll touch on it. Why Jalen Milro's hands grew
an inch and a half between let's touch on the
Senior Bowl. I don't know, Like I'm familiar with the
kind of peds required.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
That's reckless speculation on my part.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
But to grow ones hands size that much in a
span of what three weeks nonsense.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Jalen hit me up, all right, I need Jalen to
talk to me here. I interviewed him at the Super Bowl.
Great kid, by the way, Like he's gonna do incredibly
well in the interviews, Like he's got that thing.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
Sure, it's just the football part of it that's going
to be a struggle.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Well, I mean, you know, somebody will fall somebody will
fall in love with Jalen's athleticism and think that they
can coach everything else out of him.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
And somebody will get fired as a result of that.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
I would agree with you.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
At least he'll be a second round pick that won't
have the same pressure. That's the other unfair thing that happens,
Like cam Ward and Shadour will be judged differently because
they were first round picks. They shouldn't be. But that's
just the wa the world's. But I want to as
somebody with baby hands, like I struggle to palm a
I can't palm a women's basketball like I need a
child's basketball for me to palm like anything I have tiny.

(20:11):
My hands are so small that as a kid playing
the violin, my teachers were actually like, well, you have
small hands for a violinist, that's going to be a problem.
My hands are so small it makes playing the violin
more difficult. How did Jalen Milroe grow his hands by
like an inch in three weeks? I want whatever that
pill is like, man, I want to have man hands
for like two even if I can only have them
for two or three days. I want man hands, Buck,

(20:33):
I want man hands.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
Instead, you have just those tiny little hands like you
remember the Whopper, the Burger King Whopper commercials. I just
have these tiny hands. It's okay, it's okay. I'm here
for you in support.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Now.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
All that to say, though, the amount of dialogue around
these quarterbacks and around just generally this off season is
that to your point, for teams who are trying to
figure out, for teams who are trying to get right,
the Writers, the Titans, the Jets, the brown the Giants,
on and on it goes. And there's a lot of
teams that have a lot of work to do in

(21:04):
that department. This is a fascinating offseason for one reason,
and one reason only, because there is not a single solid,
clear and obvious path forward for these teams to rectify
their problems. Yes, there's a tremendous depth as far as
the pass rushers go. Ask Miles Garrett how many games
you can win by being the best pass rusher on
the face of the planet if you're tied to an

(21:26):
anchor like something like Deshaun Watson, if you don't have
that requisite level of quarterback play. And we'll see if
Miles Garrett is able to get out of Cleveland or not.
At this point in time, everything that we were told
at the combine, publicly, privately or otherwise as they are
absolutely not moving that player. It's a really, really difficult
place for any team to be at right now.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
Yeah, to that end, let's remember again, opening my Raiders
fandom into it, I watched Josh Jacobs lead the NFL
in rushing and Max Crosby be one of the best
edge rushers and put up the one of the highest
sack numbers we've ever seen two years ago, the Raiders
one six games. All right, I've got a question for you,
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(22:27):
Fits hanging out on a Fox Sports Saturday. Importantly, Buck
was at the combine. I gotta ask you a question
does the combine even matter? But first let's get Martin
Wise to tell us everything that's going on.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Right now, we are well three point eight seconds left.

Speaker 6 (22:44):
Top ten sec matchup men's college basketball between Alabama and Tennessee.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
Scores tied seventy six apiece.

Speaker 6 (22:52):
If we get to the end of this game by
the time before the end of this update, I'll let
you know who ends up winning it. But right now,
there is three point eight second on the clock, seventy
six apiece right now, one forty one left in the
second half between Houston and Cincinnati. The Cougars, the fourth
rank team in the nation, have a sixty nine to
fifty eight lead with eight minutes left in the first half.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Between I'm sorry, one to forty one on the second half.

Speaker 6 (23:16):
I'm not sure if I said that right, but eight
minutes left in the first half for fourteenth rank Missouri
and Vanderbilt, the Tigers with an eighteenth to seventeen lead.
Pittsburgh and Louisville are tied at eighteen apiece with just
over seven minutes left in the first half. And earlier
today in some of the college basketball results, we saw
Mississippi State beat LSU.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Eighty one to sixty nine.

Speaker 6 (23:35):
Number one Auburn clinch the SEC title, beating Kentucky ninety
four to seventy eight.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
Auburn the number one team in the nation.

Speaker 6 (23:42):
Seventh thrank Saint John's beat Seaton Hall seventy one to
sixty one. Tenth ranked Texas Tech went on the road
to Lawrence, Kansas, came out winners seventy eight to seventy three.
Texas Tech the tenth ranked team in the nation. Clemson
winners over Virginia seventy one to fifty eight and Maryland
and sixty eight Penn State sixty four the Terrapins Victoria's

(24:04):
sixteen to three team in the nation, Derrek Queen with
twenty three points, six rebounds, and four steals. In the NHL,
we're just a few minutes away from the stadium series.
The puck will drop there soon between the Detroit Red
Wings and the Columbus Blue Jackets. Earlier today, we saw
the Islanders beat their Predators seven to four, The Lightning
beat the Capitals three to one, Panthers over Flames three nothing,

(24:27):
and the Bruins held on over the Penguins three to two.
Bruins led that game two to nothing for most of
the matchup. Now there was an offensive foul on the
Alabama possession of three point eight seconds left. No time
came off the clock. Now Tennessee inbounding the ball at home. Unfortunately, guys,
we did not get to the end result of this

(24:47):
game before the end the result of this update. So
to that have to stay tuned to you guys to
figure out who wins.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
But back to you.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
Now, Oh, thank you, Ben, I appreciate it. And by
the way, Alabama had the ball on their end of
the court three point eight seconds left and a five
second violation, couldn't get the ball against the Tennessee defense.
I have no idea what happened. I'm delayed. I'm delayed.
I'm delayed as I go Tennessee driving it. Oh my god,
that's the balls.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
We love to see it.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
An unbelievable performance by Rick Barnes in this basketball team
to hand Alabama fat oldel nothing nothing. Yes, yes, we
love to see it. We love to see it. It
is a great day when the State of Alabama takes
any kind of ill back.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Buck Rising is the voice you just turned there on,
Jason fitz. So let's be very clear, Bucking fits. That
is Buck Rising that just said that. So if you're
gonna tweet, somebody tweet.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Him one fans, I'm ready for you.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
He's sitting there as I see him on FaceTime while
we're doing this, he's sitting there in his Indiana I mean,
you're not talking a lot of smack for your Indiana
hoo's yours basketball program.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
But yes, and then they'll lose, and then they will
suck and it will make me very sad.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
But that's fine. I'll go with the winning basketball team.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Yeah, Tennessee inbounds the ball really uncontested with three point
eight seconds left, leaves them plenty of time, just walks
down the court and not even that long of a three.
They never got a ball. Alabama never got a hand
in the ball, a hand in the face of the guard.
It really incredible. So they get to win seventy nine

(26:22):
to seventy six in that one. A lot of drama. Also, though, Buck,
you just hit on something that makes watching modern sports
in two different locations the worst the worst. The worst
part about this is Buck saw the result before I did.
Like I'm streaming, and this is like the weirdest thing
about streaming to me, I'm streaming from my YouTube TV

(26:42):
in my studio at home, and Buck is obviously on
a faster thing. So Buck reacted before I ever had
a chance to see it. I don't know how I
feel about that, Buck Rising, that you got to see
the ending first. This is what makes watching games in
different locations almost impossible.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
I am also watching on YouTube TV, So perhaps you
just better internet, and that's that's I don't know what
to do about that for you.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Did you not remember to pay your bill? This?

Speaker 1 (27:09):
Okay, look, here's the thing. What happened from the tire
rack dot com studios. Like in my in my house,
even my TVs don't line up like one house will
be like I'm it's all YouTube TV on all of them,
and every TV in every room is on a different spot.
Like you know, I got a lot of TVs going
at once, and they're all running sort of slightly different,

(27:30):
slightly off bocks. So no, I remember to pay my
internet bills. I just happened to I just happen to
be in a little bit of a delight Tennessee with
the big win. He's Buck Rising on Jason fitz Bucket
fits hanging out with you on a Fox Sports Saturday
from the ti Raq dot com studios. What's the point
of the combine? Let me just ask you that straight out,
because like nobody works out anymore. I'm not sure that

(27:52):
there should be weight to what guys do in their underwear.
I don't think there's really a lot of value to
it other than interviews and medical and then everybody getting
to rage party. What is really the point of the
combine at this point?

Speaker 3 (28:05):
No, I mean you hit it on the head. It
is the medicals and it is getting to know these players.
Like there is some things, very few things can impact
the tape, Like the tape is done, the college football
season has concluded. These players have played all of their games.
You know who they are on a.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
Field of play heading into it. You know what their
strengths are, you know what their weaknesses are.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
Then you go through the process of the combine, you
figure out that Abduall Carter, the potential number one overall pick,
has a stress reaction, not a fracture, but a stress
reaction in his foot past potentially.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Well, you know, these are the things that I have
to pay attention to.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
It is something that could obviously impact a team like
Tennessee who's not sold at the top of the quarterback
draft this year from taking the best overall player in
the draft this year, which is Abdul Carter. You figure
that out and then you go through the process of
interviewing the players. Cam Ward was not available at the
Shrine Bowl. He was not available at the Scene or
Senior Bowl. He attended neither of them. So it's the

(29:02):
first time that teams have actually been able to get
him in a room and figure out if he has
that dominant personality, personality, that domineering personality all the time,
because that's exactly what Mike Borganzi, the new general manager
of the Tennessee Titans by way of the Kansas City Chiefs,
told me.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
I'm trying to figure out if.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
This guy is that person all the time, if he
has that level of personality, and then can I vibe
with that? Does that contribute to the culture. So while
I understand it's easy for us to just kind of
gloss over medicals and interviews, they are critical parts of
the pre draft process. But to your point the underwear Olympics,

(29:39):
there will be some places for guys to make more
money for themselves to stand out. There will be some
guys who come up short, and then there will be
dialogue about whether DK Metcalf's worthy of a number. A
first round draft pick will fall to the second round
because a three cone drill wasn't good enough. Stupid stuff
like that sometimes impacts these teams, But for the most part,
it's the meta first, it's the interview second, and everything

(30:02):
else is ancillary.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
Yeah, and it is interesting to me in general. I
think anytime you get the league together in one place,
there's power to that. That's the one thing that I
think we have to remember. Whether it's power in everybody
having drinks late at night, or whether it's power in relationships.
There's just there's so much going on there. If there's
anything that I've learned over the years, it's that realistically,

(30:25):
broadcast companies don't spend money anymore just for the hell
of it. So part of the reason that everybody tries
to send people to the combine like Yahoo, you know,
I do the majority of my work. Sent a bunch
of our shows to Indy. I didn't make the list.
I think they were a little afraid that, you know,
I couldn't handle myself in the bars late at night
around everybody. Maybe maybe maybe they're right, but I will

(30:46):
say that there's a point where that decision isn't made
lightly For most companies, there has to be a reason,
and the reason is there's just business being done, like
agents are really talking to teams and teams are talking
to each other, and I think there is that's where
the power of relationship matters. Like if your favorite team
has a GM that's not connected, that's going to be
a problem. So I think that's what we have to

(31:07):
remember is fans watching the combine, there's a ton of
value to what it means for relationships.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
With how question, I mean, in reality, all businesses are
relationship businesses. It's just do you take the time to
go out of your way and solidify and continue to
maintain those relationships.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
Certainly in the NFL that is.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
A critical part of the process because even though you
know legal tampering does not happen for about a week
and a half, at this point in time, these things
are going on again. They fight in a Starbucks or
a verbal altercation.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
We should say, were you at the Starbucks for the
verbal fight?

Speaker 3 (31:42):
No, I was not at the Starbucks for I'm Mark safe.
I'm a Duncan guy. Myself, but.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
I'm marked safe. But Jordan Schultze and Rapidport Starbucks fight,
that's amazing, stupid.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
We're a bunch of high school children that can't behave ourselves,
it seems with a week in Indianapolis. But to your point,
that started that verbal altercation started over a source off
because is Tom Brady recruiting Matt Stafford to Montana to
a ski resort to try to get him to your
beloved Las Vegas Raiders or is it just as Ian
Rapaport reported, and in which I would say that I

(32:18):
am skeptical of, respectfully to rap Sheet the idea that
they just happened to run into each other at the
ski resort. Oh, then Tom Brady just started to potentially
test his level of interest Matt Stafford's enjoining the Las
Vegas Raiders before he ultimately, as we know now ended
up on back with the Los Angeles Rams. It is

(32:38):
critical to have these relationships because this is an ongoing process.
These contracts don't just happen as soon as Adam Schefter
gets a text message and they are tweeted out in
the universe. It's a long, ongoing process, and you have
to have a degree of diplomacy. You have to have
ego to make sure that you try and get the
best possible deal for either your client or your team.

(32:58):
And you cannot have so much ego that you knew
could deal because.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
I covered a team that did that too. John Robinson
trade to A J.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
Brown to the now Super Bowl champion Philadelphia Eagles because
he just couldn't get his head around the wide receiver
with a lad.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
I'll bet a personality just a lead. I'll bet it
too much personality.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Yeah, well that's that decision definitely had ripple effects to
how everybody pays their bills, all right, So if the
I mean I'm just being just being honest, mind certainly. Oh,
speaking of paying bills, the NFL is paying bills with
hard knocks, obviously, but the offseason hard knocks last year

(33:34):
had ripple effects to the future. We now know who's
partaking in this year's hard knocks, and it is curious.
We'll tell you about it when we come back. And
in the meantime, he's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitzwor hanging
out with you on a Fox Sports Saturday. You're listening
to Fox Sports Radio Radio. We are breaking news huge

(33:56):
NFL news has come down the pipeline. He's Buck Rising.
I'm Jason Fitz on a Fox Sports Saturday. Deebo Samuel
is no longer a San Francisco forty nine er. We
have a trade the forty nine ers, according to Ian
Rappaport our trading star wide receiver Deebo Samuel to the
commanders for draft pick compensation. Sources say Samuels. According to

(34:19):
the tweet, I'm reading directly from Ian to twenty one
point seven million dollars this year now heads to former
San Francisco exec Adam Peters and to play with quarterback
Jaden Daniels, who gets another weapon. It's a fifth rounder
going to San Francisco. So again, a fifth round pick
has gone from Washington to San Francisco. Deebo Samuel is
now a Washington commander. It's a Fox Sports Saturday coming

(34:42):
at you from the ti rack dot com studios. He's
Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitz coming at you here, and Buck,
this is big news. You just came out of the
combine in Indy. One of the conversations we've been hearing
is what would happen? And now all of a sudden,
one of the most electric weapons in the NFL goes
to a team that will admit if you talk to
people behind the scenes of Washington, they'll tell you they

(35:02):
played ahead of their skis this year, that they believed
that their roster wasn't as good as Jayden Daniels made them.
They are going to be aggressive. They can be aggressive.
They have money to spend, they have capital, they are
using it to surround Jayden and they are all in
right now.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
It's such a good deal.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
I mean, it's just the rich get richer in this
particular situation. How great for commanders fans by the way,
they've been long suffering for such an incredible stretch of time.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
They get an entire reset of the organization.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
Very rarely do you get an ownership change that is
the impetus for all the good things that follow. But
now you're talking about Jade and Daniels the defending offensive
rookie of the Year with Austin Eckler, Brian Robbinson, Terry McLaurin,
and Deebo Samuel. My biggest question, honestly, FITZI and we
don't have to get into the weeds on the ex's
and o's type of stuff.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
But how are they going to use him.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
How's Cliff Kingsbury going to maximize Deebo Samuel at this
point in his career as the offensive coordinator there in Washington,
Because the thing that may Deebo so spectacular in San
Francisco for so long is that he was almost I
don't want to call him positionless because that's not quite true.
But their skill players were so versatile in the way
that you could deploy them in all manner of different

(36:14):
places out of the backfield, split out wide what they're
able to do specifically with Deebo. And the thing that
I know about Deebo Samuel is that he doesn't want
to play running back very much anymore at this point
in his career as he continues to age now that
he's getting into his thirties. Still an excellent deal and
the NFC's most interesting offense just got a little bit

(36:34):
better today.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
And stick with Cliff Kingsbury for a second, because certainly
he could have put his name in the hat for
some jobs. What's happened for Washington is stability, and I
think that's one thing we have to really drill down
on for a second, because not only did they keep
they bring in dan Quinn, who, for anyone that didn't
see the NFLPA report cards where the players have given
all this information on and off the record about the

(36:57):
teams they play for, dan Quinn was the most liked
coach by his team in the league. So you got
a head coach that seemed to find this footing in
his second shot as a head coach that everybody's falling
in love with, with an offensive coordinator that he manages
to keep in place because they paid him very well
to come in and do it. And now you've got
a quarterback in Jane Daniels that gives you all these opportunities.
And now you're teaming debo with Terry McLaurin. I mean

(37:21):
buck like you want to talk about sort of being aggressive,
And this is what happens when you're on a rookie deal.
This is one of the magical things. We all know
about it. But if you're Washington, you're looking around and saying, Okay,
the Eagles just won the Super Bowl. And the Eagles
just won the Super Bowl in dominant fashion. Now, how
do we get ourselves to that level in our division?

(37:42):
How do we turn this team from a second place
team into a contender for the division title. And if
you're Washington, you're looking around saying, well, I don't give
a damn about a fifth round draft pick. I don't
care about that. Oh and the money. I don't care
about the money. They got the money to spend. They
got the money all day every day. They can make
the cap room. They can figure all of these things
out like that. There is acknowledging. Also is something that

(38:02):
you experienced last week. Everybody freaked out right, Like the
salary cap was higher than teams expected, even from their
own internal models. So if you're Washington, you have more
cap room than you expected. You got a quarterback that's
on a rookie deal, you got Terry McLaurin. You need
to add additional pieces. This is a draft where running
backs are everywhere, so you can worry about that. Then
go get yourself a cemented difference maker that you can

(38:25):
now team with the quarterback and an offensive coordinator that
both are a challenge for teams to defend. Like this
is a home run for Washington.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
That's such a good deal.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
And the commanders to your point at the third most
cap space, even before the cap spike that we saw
and they're you know, depending on will await additional details.
It's not clear as to whether San Francisco is going
to have to eat any of this money or if
Washington is just willing to take the full freight of
the contract because Deebo Samuel, if I'm not mistaken, was
doe twenty one point seven million dollars this year. And

(38:55):
now it's worth noting Adam Peters, the former San Francisco
executive who declined interviews with a team like the Tennessee
Titans to set out that cycle and then take the
commander's job and reap the benefits of basically a clean
slate is able to cash in in a huge way here.
I can't say enough good things about what Washington's doing.
I'm so excited for them.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
The most impressive part of what we're seeing right now
is that Washington is just talking about football. For years,
if you are a Washington fan, you stayed away from
sports talk radio and TV because what you didn't want
to do was listen to more people make fun of
your favorite team and make fun of your ownership group.
And you felt like from the beginning of the league year,

(39:36):
you were one step behind the rest of the world
because nobody believed in the way the organization was being
a run. They have turned this around, and I constantly
say this is the most impressive. Part of what Jayden
Daniels has done is not just what he's done on
the field. It's the fact that we are talking about
the Washington Banders with a different tone than ever before,
simply because we're only talking about the football again. The

(39:59):
breaking news Deebo Samuel is headed from San Francisco to
the Commanders. We'll keep breaking it down as we continue
to tell you everything you need to know about the
big trade. Well that'll come next. Fox Sports Radio, Buck Rising,
Jason Fitz. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. Actions
speak louder than words. Some teams tell you they're all in.

(40:23):
Some owners will stand up and say we're gonna do
whatever it takes this offseason to make our team better
Jerry Jones. And then within the same division, some teams
step up and say, you know what, We're just gonna
get it done. And that is what has happened with
breaking news that's gone down in the last fifteen minutes.
From the NFL scouting Combine in Indianapolis, Deebo Samuel no

(40:46):
longer a San Francisco forty nine er, He's now a
Washington commander. And when you factor in what was paid
for this, reportedly a fifth round pick, it's nothing. And
what happens Washington turns around and makes the stay that
we are in with our quarterback and we are going
to take the next step. It's a Fox Sports Saturday.
It's really Bucking Fits. He's Buck Rising, I'm Jason Fitz.

(41:09):
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(41:30):
for a decade, but first time getting to hang out
together on the radio. And what did we get? An
hour one, we get a half court buzzer beater for
Tennessee to win an epic game, and then Buck minutes later,
we get this breaking news Deebo Samuel headed to the
Washington commanders hell of a first hour and as we
come into our number two, I just keep thinking about
what you said. The rich get richer, and this is

(41:51):
just a calculated move when you look at it from
Washington standpoint. Okay, you gave up some money. Well, it's
not my money. I don't care where my favorite team
owner spends money. Let him spend it. You gave up
a fifth round draft pick. Okay, you're lucky if a
fifth round draft pick makes the roster most of the time, right, Like,
so calm down on that. What you got was a
weapon for an offense that already has such key pieces

(42:14):
in place. Man, I right now feel so much better
about a Washington team that I already felt good about
twenty minutes ago. I feel even better now because they
are obviously making the all in moves you have to
make when you know you have a quarterback to build around.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
I love team social media.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
The Washington Commanders just tweeted out the gift of Debo
from Friday, the movie.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
You've said, I'm.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
Sure, yes, yeah, okay, yeah, yes, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
I just want to make sure you're up on your
pop culture references, even though.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
That's probably to get but that's okay.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
Don't argue with me, yet I thought, you know, it's
just the worst. Jeffis peanut butter. But to your point,
they have to be rich to be able to get
richer on the personnel side.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
Because the thing that's interesting to me, FITZI.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
About this transact beyond Jadeen Daniels, the defending rookie of
the year getting a weapon like this to go with
Terry McLaurin, who's already an excellent player and acquitted himself
so well after having so many bad years in Washington,
Beyond this being an incredibly exciting time for Washington fans,
and to your point, to actually get to talk about
football as opposed to their previous owner being sought out

(43:22):
for congressional subpoenas while he hides from the US government
on his mega yacht in the south of France. Now
we get to talk about the idea of can this
put the Washington commanders in the mix in the same
division to the point that you made earlier, as the
defending Super Bowl champions, can this help them put maybe
not put them over the top. Philadelphia is still a

(43:44):
juggernaut and will have to be dealt with. But Dallas, man,
I just I can't imagine of all the teams that
are suffering at this point in time, I can't imagine
how awful it is to be a Cowboys fan having
to deal with Jerry and then dealing with Steven Jones.
After all, in talking about selectively aggressive, don't raise your
hand at me. I'll get to you when I get

(44:05):
to you. I just I cannot believe. I cannot believe
that the Cowboys exist in this particular division. Watching all
these other teams save for the Giants, have so much
more fun than them, and still dealing with Dak Prescott
and respectfully, Brian Shottenham Schottenheimer. Easy for me to say
the least inspiring of any NFL coach I can remember

(44:28):
in my thirty one years of life.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
This is this is just my moment to remind Cowboys
fans you're not special. Like. This is what I don't
understand about Cowboys fans is they come in and they're like,
we hadn't won the Super Bowl since nineties, just.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
Kicking them all they're down.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
You know how many teams haven't won a Super Bowl
since the nineties? Like you're not special? All right, there
are tons of I haven't won a Super Bowl since
the nineties. Talk to the Bills, talk to the Raiders,
talk to the talk to half the league. There are
so many teams that haven't won it. The Titans have
never won a super Bowl, the Jags have never won
a like So you've got twelve teams that have never

(45:06):
won a Super Bowl. You've got how many teams that
haven't won a Super Bowl since the early eighties. And
then everybody comes in here and cries for the Cowboys. Well,
we hadn't won a Super Bowl since the ninth I
don't give a damn about that. You're not special. Most
of the league hasn't. You know what the Cowboys fans
need to realize your team is just like everybody else.
Most years you suck. Most years you're let down. Most

(45:27):
years you don't get a Super Bowl except it. Okay,
nothing's going to change that now. Washington. Washington felt that
way Buck a year ago, Washington felt helpless. And this
all comes back to how we started the show talking
about why we over obsess over quarterbacks, because man, when
you don't have one, you feel like you are stuck
in the sea of suck for the rest of your life.
You get Jayden Daniels and all of a sudden, you're like, no, no, no, no,

(45:50):
Now we've got a yacht in the Sea Suck. Like
we are now living We're living large in this opportunity.
Like it's so different. One player changed so much about
the way the entire franchise is perceived.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
What is the Sea of Suck's proximity to the Gulf
of America? Is that anywhere logistically close at this point?
There is you know, I didn't know if that was
a Google Map adjustment that had been made since I
last checked my Google Map.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
I feel like if there was going to be a
Sea Suck, it'd be somewhere. It'd be one of the
like Michigan lakes out there that are really pretty in
the summer, but nobody really are things to go to
Michigan on vacation, Like that's where the Sea Suck lives.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
What are you thinking right now, if you're the Niners,
Let's take this somewhere else, because that is a very
very interesting division. The Rams have just secured their quarterback
again after having a little bit of you know, consternation
around will Matt Stafford or won't Matt Stafford? Of course,
we know now that he is returning to the Los
Angeles Rams with a slight increase in pay. You've got

(46:48):
the Seahawks, who are in a very interesting situations, competitive,
if not not quite ready to compete for the division.
You've got the Niners, who took a significant step back
at this point in time, and all they talked about
at the combine where I spent my entire last week,
Jason Fitz is the idea that they're trying to get

(47:08):
this Rock Party deal done.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
Rock Party.

Speaker 3 (47:10):
Speaking of quarterbacks and whether your team has what or
not Brock Purty at what fifty to fifty five sixty
Dak Prescott kind of money to work off that Cowboys conversation?
How much less special is brock Party without Deebo Samuel.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
I know he's still got Kittle, but he's aging.

Speaker 3 (47:26):
I know they've still got the what's the wonderful fullback
that does everything for them, Kyle ust Check, They've they've
got Brandon Ayyuk and I know he dealt with injury
last year, But like, what are Niners.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
Fans thinking at this point in time? Do you imagine?

Speaker 1 (47:40):
I don't know. What's more shocking that you just brought
a fullback into the conversation is the reason to hope
for a franchise, or that you just clossed over the
use of consternation in that last a little moment there,
which was beautifully done by you, consternation pig Ward. Look
it's going to be okay, Well, I am scared. Forty

(48:00):
nine ers fans need to accept that this field. I mean,
you tell me, this feels like you're sitting on the
precipice of a rebuild. And look, this is.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
A really a fifty five million dollar quarterback.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
Oh what else are you gonna do? We can just
roll the dice all over again.

Speaker 3 (48:16):
I would tell Kyle Shanahan and UH and John Lynch
to sit and spend. If I was getting ready to
pay Brock Party that kind of money and you were
going to threaten me with a rebuild as a fan,
I would not have it, Especially that sand Base.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
The same organization that drafted Trey Lance in that same draft.
So like, we just have to start by accepting the
fact that as much credit as Kyle Shanahan and John
Lynch deserved for the roster that they built and for
the fact that they discovered Brock Party, they even have
to admit that you know better to be lucky than good,
Like they found somebody at the very end of the draft,
and if they'd known brock Purty was going to be

(48:52):
who brock Purty is, they would have drafted him early.
Like That's the one thing I always remind teams is like,
if you hit on somebody the raid drafting Max Crosby
in the middle of the draft, all right, that's an
amazing find. But also they got it wrong every time
before that, like they chose not to draft that same
player as high as he should be drafted, Like brock
Perdy going at the end of the draft was a
stroke of luck. Now, if you're the forty nine ers, man,

(49:14):
I certainly don't want to go back into this thing
and have to reimagine the quarterback position. But they're getting older.
There's no doubt that bodies were breaking down. The number
of games lost to injury last year was catastrophic for them.
So you've got a team that feels like they're getting
older that you know, maybe maybe needs to refresh at
a bunch of different positions. Doesn't that feel kind of
like a rebound?

Speaker 3 (49:35):
Yeah, But I just I don't think that you can
I mean, you certainly can't sell that to the fan base,
even if that's the reality of their situation. And I
don't want to. I don't want to amp up the
pressure on the Niners organization because they have that they
are a championship organization. I know they've fallen short in
the Super Bowls here recently, but there are constant presence

(49:55):
in the NFC Championship game. They've won, a constant conversation
as far as the content or and perhaps we are
in fact cycling down in this in this team's point
of competitiveness.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
But you psychling down in this team's point of competitive
like you have. That's that's working towards a politician right there,
cycling down in this team's point of competitive Well.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
I'm trying to make cald real for them. I'm just
trying to jet, I'm trying to be gentle.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
Listen to what you said about Alabama last hour, and
now you're being gentle with forty nine ers fans.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
Well, yeah, but Alabama can eat it and eat it
they did earlier. Go balls.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
I think that I just think that there has to
be some some consideration taken into Okay, are we really
prepared the idea of rebuilding around rock Perty is I
guess the thing that I'm stuck on because I know
that player to make good decisions. I know that he
is exceptional in certain areas. I know that he is

(50:51):
deficient in certain areas as well, and those haven't really
been exposed. And to your point about the injuries, I
you know, I shouldn't roll my eyes at injuries as
all and as I do, even though I covered a
team in twenty twenty one that was the number one
overall seed in the AFC and still set the record
for the number of players that they dressed and route
to get that because they had so many injuries and
so many games lost due to injuries because of players.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
I think if you're a good enough.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
Coaching staff and a good enough front office, you can
find ways to make that work, because everybody is dealing
with depth issues at any given point in the NFL season.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
I just I don't like the idea.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
I hate the idea in fact, of a rebuild around
brock Party, especially when you start taking all of his
favorite toys away.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
Yeah, there is an element of boy, this is going
to be that moment where we learn a lot about
how much credit we want to give Kyle Shanahan. Because
it's his job. He sees the player every day. We
only see games. He sees the player every day. It's
his job to know what he's actually worth. I'm going
to have to trust at this point Kyle Shanahan to

(51:52):
be smart enough to know exactly where the line in
the sand is and what that means for San Francisco,
because if you're telling me that they're going back to
the drawing at the quarterback position as well, you can't
couch that anyway other than a rebuild. Also, just importantly,
the guy that invented the technology known as the Jeff
was given an award, and in that acceptance speech, he

(52:13):
walked up on the podium and all he said for
his acceptance speech for the technology is it is pronounced Jeff.
Look if my mom names me Jason, spells it Jasom,
but then tells the whole world it's pronounced hey son,
then you got no choice but to call me hey song.
If the guy that invented the technology calls it a Jeff,
that's where we are. The great thing is that I
got my last word, and you know I was sitting

(52:34):
on that the whole time. You can stream this show,
by the way, you want to stream this show just
to listen to how the last hour went during the
college basketball madness and all.

Speaker 3 (52:42):
Of our interesting case I call it something worse than
hay Son.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
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(53:07):
of your screen. We will continue to break down the
breaking news. If you're just tuning in. Deebo Samuel has
been traded from the San Francisco forty nine ers to
the Washington Commanders. We're not gonna go anywhere on that.
We'll get you updated on the combine, but coming up next,
a lot of conversation between Lebron and the media about
how the NBA should be covered. All I'm going to
tell you is that maybe it's neither of their faults.
Maybe we're the ones to blame. Maybe the people watching

(53:29):
are the actual issue with the NBA. We'll tell you
why and we'll break it down next. He's Buck Rising
on Jason Fitz. We're hanging out with you on a
Fox Sports Saturday on Fox Sports Radio. Would you rather
be Beyonce or Jason isbel? Right? Like not that Jason
Isisbel isn't very accomplished, but you know, like I think

(53:52):
I'd rather be that guy. No, No, he's very accomplished,
but he's not be honest like Jason isbel doesn't walk
into accomplished.

Speaker 3 (53:59):
Jason is Bell playing the exit in on a Tuesday
night for thirty people.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (54:05):
I mean, like Jason, half the people listening to this
like that, which is half of Scott Shapiro is basically
Sidor saying, who the hell is Jason is Bell?

Speaker 2 (54:15):
Who the hell is Jason is Bell?

Speaker 3 (54:17):
Welcome back FUS Sports Saturday.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
Forth tire rack dot Com Studios.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
That high pitched, squeaky laugh that you hear is Jason Fitz.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
I'm Buck Rising.

Speaker 3 (54:27):
The latest news as we sit here, or as we've
been sitting here, is the Deebo Samuel has been traded
from the Washington Commanders to the or excuse me, from
the San Francisco forty nine ers to the Washington Commanders.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
That would be bad.

Speaker 3 (54:40):
That'd be an NBA like trade if you got traded
one place and then traded right back. Asked, don't connect
how that went with the Los Angeles Lakers. Speaking of
the Lakers, Lebron James, he's been the face of the
NBA for his entire twenty two year career, but recently, FITZI,
he took a position saying he sided with other NBA

(55:01):
players that don't want to fill in that void whenever.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
It is that the forty year old James leaves the league.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
We understand the position that Lebron has been in, we
understand the scrutiny that it comes with, and the quotes
certainly on this are worth dissecting. But Lebron James saying
that he sides with players who don't want to be
the next face of the NBA, what do you make
of such a statement?

Speaker 1 (55:28):
So here's what's hard about it, Like this is all
part of a movement that's happened in the last week
where players and I thought Chineo Kumuka, who I love
and have worked with a lot in the past, did
a nice job on first take of even talking about
you know, players want more talk about the game. They
want more specifics instead of making everything about broad stroke
NBA conversations. They want more talk about the game. And

(55:51):
Cheney even pointed out in the broadcast they were on,
look at how much time we spent today talking about
Steph Curry. Nobody talks about Oklahoma City. And this is
the argument I hear made all the time. What you
end up with is Lebron's yelling at the media, and
the media is yelling at Lebron. And I keep looking
at all of this and saying, Okay, I understand what
players want, buck I truly do I want. I understand
that players want deep dive thought processes on the NBA.

(56:14):
Why ball movement's moving here? Like why this team move?
Does this? Really? Well, Like that's what they want, But realistically,
that's not what the people want, and I mean the
broadest set of the audience, because let's be honest for
a second. The daily numbers are taken on TV every
single day. So if you're talking about ESPN or or
Fox Sports like any of them, we see TV numbers

(56:37):
every single day. If any of these networks believed that
a deep dive show into the strategy of the NBA
would be successful, it would exist. In fact, NFL Matchup,
I think is one of the smartest TV shows that's
ever been made. It gets buried at two in the
morning because nobody watches the damn thing because at the
end of the day. This is like years ago, years ago,

(56:59):
there were ratings on You're too young to remember this,
but Nielsen used to send out a survey. Like now,
for anyone that doesn't know, Nielsen gives you like a
little pager sort of thing, like it listens to you,
like that's how they track everything. They just okay, fine,
they they used to send out a survey, and what
they found is that NPR really smart. You know, talk

(57:23):
radio shows were highly rated at the time. And then
the first time people actually had to start wearing a
device that tracked what they watched, the ratings went down
in the dumps. Why because people weren't really listening to NPR.
They just wanted everybody to think they were smart, so
they told people they were listening to it. When you
actually study the habits, people don't want that. And so
like when when anyone screams, well, why do they only

(57:45):
talk about the Lakers. Why are we only talking about
the Celtics because they watched the numbers and that's what
people want. So like Lebron sits here and blames the
coverage of the NBA for why you shouldn't want to
be the face of it. It hates the way the
game is being covered, and then the media yells at
Lebron for not wanting to be the But really, I
think at the end of the day, like the consumer
is driving the content, not the other way. Content isn't

(58:06):
being made that consumers aren't watching. It is true the
profits are up for ESPN, right, Like everybody wants to
talk about the dying way that the NBA is covered.
I think the fact is not enough. True people want
die hard coverage of the NBA. So Lebron is blaming
the wrong people.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
This is the exact quote.

Speaker 3 (58:25):
Why do you want to be the face of a
league when all the people that cover our game and
talk about our game on a day to day basis,
I'll use FCCSA language for my first time on Fox
Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
That's probably good idea on everybody.

Speaker 3 (58:38):
As opposed to the word that Lebron used, that's responsibility.
That responsibility it's just weird. It's weird energy from people,
from the people that I don't know. Well, I'm capable
of being that guy, but I don't want to be
that guy.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
Put it like that.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
I want to be the guy to just show up
and hoop and just kill dudes and go home. That
is quotes from Lebron James and Anthony Edwards who asked
about being the next face of the league. That's what
that is, what Anthony Edwards is saying, is capable of
being that guy, but he doesn't want to be that guy.
And I find that fascinating because we're going to make
him the face of the league, whether he wants to

(59:12):
be or not. And I just think that you have to.
It's so much more hyper focused fits in the NBA
than it is in really any other sport, because.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
Who has who?

Speaker 3 (59:22):
Which league has the most famous professional American athletes, the
most recognizable professional American athletes instant, It's the NBA. These
guys are international superstars. There's only five guys on a
court at any given point. You know what they look like.
They don't have helmets. You don't identify them as much
by jersey numbers as you do in the NFL, they're not,

(59:43):
you know, they're not quite as interchangeable because one player
can still impact the game in the NBA in an
incredible way.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
But to your point, and I watched the NFL Matchup Show,
don't be rude.

Speaker 3 (59:55):
Greg Cosel as a co host on a podcast of
mine back all I love that stand with the facts
of the facts, and Greg often you know, echoes a
similar sentiment about where the NFL Matchup Show is broadcast
on a regular basis, But that is the that is
the easiest way for the most amount of people, like
you're saying, to.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
Talk about the NBA.

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
And I get Kevin Durant is out here on Twitter saying, well,
it seems like it seems like people have more fun
talking about the NBA, or rather complaining about the NBA
than they do watching the actual thing. But they're a
part of the problem. They're a part of the problem
because their level of disinterest in the regular season. Lebron
James being there at NBA All Star Weekend telling people

(01:00:38):
what a couple hours before, maybe about a day before,
that he wasn't going to participate in the game after
he was expected to him being in street clothes for
the NBA picture, knowing full well he's going to be
front and center. The weird energy is on behalf of
Lebron James. He's a part of the problem. He has
directly led us to this point.

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
I think this is just at some point, Like look,
I said earlier, the Cowboys aren't special. He's buck rising.
By the way, I'm Jason Fitcher listening to Fox Sports Radio.
I think what we need to remember is that none
of this is special. You know, like, Okay, so the
regular season is meaningless. Guess what. It's meaningless for Major
League Baseball too. It's meaningless for the NHL. Also, it's
meaningless for college basketball. Nobody cares about night in, night out,

(01:01:23):
what it like the general population. I'm not talking about
basketball diehards. I'm talking about the gen pop right is
not sitting here saying, oh man, Michigan State's playing Wisconsin tonight.
I wonder if Michigan State's gonna shoot better from the outside.
Heck no. But when we get to the tournament, everybody
cares because they got money on it and it's fun
and it's an experience like just except who you are.
Like this whole concept of well, everybody treats us negatively.

(01:01:46):
My god, I will go back to the business that
I grew up in. I grew up in the music business.
Just think for a second about the way we treat
the concept of a one hit wonder. We sit here
and trash somebody for only having one song. That becomes
like for an entire generation, and it's like, well, you sucked,
you only had one hit. Like I look, I played
the fiddle in the vand Perry for how many years? Right?

(01:02:07):
Like If I Die Young was our big song that
everybody knows. Now we had six number ones in country,
but nobody cares about that. People often say one hit
wonder And at the time that used to really bother me.
Now I laugh and I'm like, okay, cool, you want
to come at me for being a one hit wonder,
Like what's the one thing you did that history will
remember forever? But that's the way we treat things as
a society. Everything's negative from everybody. Is this, Like that's

(01:02:31):
not special to the NBA. We don't talk about who
wins the AFC Championship game for three days afterwards, we
talk about who lost it. That's the way people consume
sports now, Like you go to a sports bar. Rarely
is somebody saying high five, Oh my god, this guy's
so great. They're just sitting there saying, ah, this team sucks.
That's the way people are now.

Speaker 3 (01:02:50):
No, and I and I took a dig at Lebron,
so I'll give him some credit on the back half
of things. I hate that, like, I genuinely get where
he's coming from on that particular position because and Lebron
is also at an age where he's concerned a great
deal about legacy. I'm sure he's been concerned about his
legacy his entire career. He's very self aware and very
calculated that way. But it is it is the kind

(01:03:12):
of thing that you don't want an undefeated team in
a sport because they're less interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
Right if they just go about winning.

Speaker 3 (01:03:18):
The winning is fine, but what is the conversation For
twenty years Tom Brady in the NFL, we're trying to
figure out how what is going to be the thing
that keeps the Patriots out of the AFC championship? What
is going to think be the thing that topples the dynasty? Oh,
is Patrick Mahomes making a move here to the Chiefs
have something that the new England Patriots don't. And then

(01:03:38):
you see Tom Brady do what he does over the
course of two decades, sustained greatness, and you don't really appreciate.
I mean, you appreciate it in real time, but more
people spend time hating it than they do appreciating it
because that's not their team. And there's only one fan
base that gets to feel that way. And even that
fan base is rolling their eyes, being like, oh, Brady
and Belichick, are they going to be able to are

(01:03:59):
they going to be able to get to the super
Bowl again? Now they went ten years between three peats essentially,
I know they didn't three peat, but they went ten
years between Super Bowl runs? Does that mean that the
dynasty is over? Have they lost their shine? Even the
fan bases that get to experience the winning do this.
So I don't know how Lebron gets a resolution to

(01:04:20):
his issue here. All I know is that it's okay
if players disagree with the way that their sports are discussed,
even as we understand that this is the reality of
the situation.

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
You just said something that I absolutely have to react
to because there's a way this can all be solved.
I'll tell you how. But first, Marve White's got to
get us caught up on what is trending right now
in the world of sports. Lets see if we got
another trade.

Speaker 6 (01:04:41):
Let's go just one agreed to thus far. But big
news in the NFL Deebo Samuel on the move. Well
he's not about a week and a half before it'll
actually be on the move, But now forty nine ers
have agreed in principle to trade Deebo Samuel to the
Washington Commanders in exchange for a fifth round pick. The

(01:05:01):
reason why we have to dance around it is because
the new league year has not started. That will starts
March twelve, and that will be when the deal is
officially made. But right now, for all intents and purposes,
Deebo Samuel starts shopping in the DMV. Buddy Yerick Washington
Commander in the NBA right now two games and accent
in Detroit Pistons with a thirty one to sixteen lead

(01:05:24):
over the Brooklyn Nets, and the Washington Wizards with an
eighty two to seventy two lead over the Charlotte Hornets.
That Pistons game with about two minutes left in the
first quarter, Wizards game with about three minutes left in
the third quarter. Men's college basketball three games and action
in the top twenty five right now. Number two Duke
with a twenty two to fourteen lead over Florida State,

(01:05:45):
just under ten minutes left in the first half. Just
over ten minutes left in the second half. Between Louisville
and Pittsburgh, the nineteen thrand Cardinals with a fifty six
to fifty two lead. It's fifty six to fifty five
between Missouri and Vanderbilt, the fourteenth Tigers in the league.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
They are just under ten minutes to go in the game.

Speaker 6 (01:06:04):
Earlier today, we saw number one Auburn win the SEC title.
They beat Kentucky ninety four to eighty I'm sorry seventy
eight Auburn Tigers, number one team in the nation. Fourth
Great Houston beat Cincinnati seventy three to sixty four. Fifth
and sixth ranked teams played each other Tennessee and Alabama,
and an SEC matchup. Tennessee with a buzzing buzzer beater

(01:06:26):
three point four the win seventy nine to seventy six.
To final There, Mississippi State blshoo eighty one to sixty
nine Saint John's Overseaton Hall seventy one to sixty one,
and Texas Tech went on the road to Kansas and
beat them in Lawrence seventy eight to seventy three. The
Texas Texas tenth ranked team in the nation. In the

(01:06:46):
NHL Stadium Series, the Detroit Webrings Red Wings say that
ten times fast, and the Columbus Blue Jackets started the
second period nineteen minutes left in the second period Stadium Series,
no score between the two of them.

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(01:07:21):
we get off the air, Buck Rising, Jason Fitz, Buck,
you just talked a little bit about like the right
now and what it means to be the face of
the NBA. I think the solution to this we can't
change the fact that everybody wants to find the negative
in the way things are covered. I don't believe that
one person can change that, right, So if nobody can
change that portion of it, what can we change. I

(01:07:42):
think what we can change is perspective on when we
will be judged, because you're one thousand percent right, Like
in the moment people wanted to give up on Brady
and Belichick, right ah, they suck right like right now,
every single person that today is telling you Lebron isn't
good enough when they are a great grandparent is going
to be sitting on the same porch saying no, no, no, no.

(01:08:02):
That guy you're watching right now isn't as good as
Lebron was. I watched Lebron. We went from Mahomes as
the best ever to Mahomes has plenty of work to
do to catch Tom Brady in one game, right, But
in ten years we'll have a much better mindset on it.
I think what you're forgetting not you, but what Lebron
is forgetting when he talks about being the face of
the league is that the face of the league isn't

(01:08:23):
just about today. It's about the way your body of
work is judged fifteen years from now, and fifteen years
from now, I think we become more favorable to everything
we saw when we have the distance from when it
happened to where we are right now.

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
What has Lebron been fighting more the way that the
NBA has covered with the comparisons to Michael Jordan, because
that is kind of the thing that is the overarching
thing of Lebron James's tenure as the face of the league,
and I wonder, you know, I don't know what that's
going to look like post Lebron.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
It's been twenty two years.

Speaker 3 (01:08:57):
We haven't had to think about it, really, not in
my adult lifetime at this point.

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
But I.

Speaker 3 (01:09:05):
Hear what you're saying about how he's handling it and
the way in which he's not going to be able
to change it. I just think when you give anytime
Lebron James speaks, you're going to invoke a reaction, whether
it be positive because people are such super fans of
him or such super fans the Lakers, or negative because

(01:09:26):
you disagree with Lebron.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
You disagree with the.

Speaker 3 (01:09:28):
Way that he handled the decision, you disagree with his
comments going back to when he kind of stepped in
it with the China stuff. But like even Lebron think
about this, If Lebron James is in a position where
he is siding with these players who do not want
to take up the mantle after he's gone a lah
Anthony Edwards, because this was the player who was most

(01:09:50):
recently asked about that. What message does that send to
the consumers?

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
My thing with the NBA and with.

Speaker 3 (01:09:59):
The difficulty that I have with things like All Star weekend,
and I know that's been talked about at nauseum in
the comparison to the Four Nations Final with the hockey,
and that happened to just be the same weekend that
we didn't have football for the first time this year.
The idea of taking your audience for granted, like the
messaging on this, they they help or they contribute to

(01:10:19):
the level of negativity around the NBA when they when
they say things like this, it's an honor to be
the face of a league. How How on earth can
you be at all comfortable public publicly espousing the opinion
of yeah, I get it, I wouldn't want to do
it again, but it's my job and I'll do it.
And I get it's a burden and it comes with

(01:10:39):
incredible scrutiny and listen to Lebron's To Lebron's undying credit,
he has been this the entire time he.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
Has been a professional athlete.

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
He has been this this level of scrutinized basically his
entire basketball career, dating back to high school.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
As a phenom.

Speaker 3 (01:10:56):
He has very, very rarely taken any kind of public
missteps that you can actually criticize him for, Like, really
not that many things that you can count and you
can nitpick, and you know, just dislike the personality of
who Lebron is or whatever, But how can you continue
to have this as a part of your legacy when

(01:11:19):
you've done this so well in a way that very
few people are capable of doing it, and then say, yeah,
I get it, but I wouldn't want to do it again.
You just can't say that stuff out loud. Fits That's
what drives me nuts about basketball, that they are publicly
dismissive of their own product.

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
I think at some point my question to everybody is,
why do you care? Like, if you're Lebron, you're worth
a billion dollars at this point. You play the sport
you love, and you've played your tail off every single
night and again, I don't know anything about being an athlete,
but I do know this. Every night, when we stood
up on stage and played, the biggest crowd I ever
played in front of was one hundred thousand people. And
I remember walking off stage after playing in front of

(01:11:59):
one hundred thousand people, and somebody said, what was a
crowd like? And I was like, I don't know, because
that wasn't much. My job was to play, to go
out and execute a show perfectly. And if I executed
a show perfectly, I didn't really care if the crowd
had a great time or not. I just cared did
I do my job at the highest possible level? You know?
And certainly I know what it feels like to open
up the paper the first review that ever a band
that never made it, and the review said the fiddle

(01:12:21):
player ran around on stage like a bear and a
bear on a bicycle in a circus act that wasn't
worried about doing anything the right way. I remember that distinctly.
Did I care? What's some idiot thought? No, I don't
like so to me right now, Lebron James could take
stacks of thousand dollars stacks, lay them out on a
bed and lay in it like he's Scrooge McDuck. Right,

(01:12:43):
then he can look at his entire legacy with confidence
in what he did. You can't change the way people
judge you. You can't change what people thought of your career.
You can't change. But I can't change what people think
listening to this show right now. All I can do
is do the best to be as prepared as I
can and to do a show that I'm proud of.
And I just look at Lebron and I'm like, my god, dude,

(01:13:04):
Like you have been the face of the league and
you did everything the way you wanted to do it.
So like, why do you care what Stephen A thinks
of the NBA product? Why do you care what the
talking heads have to say? Just go go do what
you do and do it the way you do it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:19):
No, but it's inescapable. I mean, like the newspaper review.
Obviously it sticks with you and you carry it, and
I'm sure you use it as a source of motivation
when you face any trials throughout the course of your
music career or even your sports career, if you need
to kind of regenerate that source of motivation. And there
is some motivation in people doubting and hating you and
being able to prove them wrong. You take that into consideration,

(01:13:40):
but like, it's inescapable, the level of scrutiny. I talk
to athletes every day, it's a part of my job.
I cover an NFL team. I'm in a locker room
four days out of a seven day, seven day week,
and they say things like, well, we don't really hear
the outside criticism, we don't pay attention to the external noise, this,
that and the other, and they're just lying. They're just

(01:14:00):
lying because you cannot escape it. It is in your phone.
If you have a phone, you are just buried with
it every time you open it up, because if it's
not you actively searching these things out on social media
or just even checking your notifications, You've got friends, family member,
family members texting you this criticism asking you what you

(01:14:21):
think of what Steven A is. It's inescapable. You have
no choice but to think about it. It's how we
have been wired as a sports society.

Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
The only thing I'd say is that's true for everybody.
Whether you're working at a McDonald's and people are mad
at you when they get the food of the drive through,
or whether you sit in front of a microphone and
talk about sports, like I mute conversations all the time
where people are just coming at me saying stick to
the stick to the fiddle, Like I mute those things
all the days. It's unavoidable. I know, I know, like
you know, it's the We've got a lot to break down.

(01:14:52):
There's breaking news today, obviously the trade of the day.
Deebo Samuel is headed from San Francisco to Washington, which
brings us to a would you rather? We're gonna do
a little bit of this or that? Coming up next.
He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitz on Fox Sports Radio
on a Fox Sports Saturday. It's a Fox Sports Saturday
Bucking fits. He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitz, hanging out

(01:15:13):
with you, coming you, coming at you live from the
ti raq dot Com studios. Buck and I have a
game we like to play. It's a simple game. It's
called would you rather? But see, here's the thing. We're
gonna bring this in. We're gonna we're gonna pose the question.
We're gonna make it this big thing. Buck. We didn't
we didn't have any you know, we don't have any
imaging for it yet, or any you know, a game

(01:15:35):
show voice or anything. But I think that what we
should do. We'll get producer I intome and he's gonna
read the question. But to start it off, we should
just do like, would you rather like it's a game show?

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:15:43):
You in for this, so we'll just we'll bring it
in together. It's just we're good.

Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
There is zero percent chance that we pull this off correctly.

Speaker 1 (01:15:49):
Yeah. I like this, So I'll just go three two
one and then we say would you rather we got
this three two one? Would you That was terrible? I
was terrible. That's terrible trash. Okay, fine, Ian, come on
save us here. You'll give us the scenario.

Speaker 7 (01:16:09):
I told him not to. He just refuses to. I
like the creativity. It was a good idea in theory,
execute it perfectly. All right, we'll start. We got some
sports ones, we got some nonsports ones. All uh, we've
been talking sports all day. I'll start with a non
sports one.

Speaker 4 (01:16:24):
Let's go, Uh, would you rather fight a chicken every
time you get into the car or fight a chimpanzee
once a year with a sword.

Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
Oh well, if you're giving me a weapon, you get
a weapon for the chimpanzee.

Speaker 3 (01:16:38):
Yet I feel like I feel like that sounds more viable.
That's just exhausting every day to have something trying to
clawed your face. Like I'm always I'm just in a
rush when I'm trying to get where I'm going.

Speaker 2 (01:16:52):
I'm never on time.

Speaker 3 (01:16:54):
You know, like you're you've had a bad day. You know,
you're You're just You're just trying to get through. You're
just trying to get home. You got rush hour traffic
to and fro, and then a chicken comes flying at
your head and tries to claw your bleeping eyes out.

Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
That sounds awful. Give me the chimp and the sword.

Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
Yeah, you know the problem is I'm gonna believe that
the chimp also has a sword. I don't trust the
chimp with the sword. I'd rather go with at least
the chicken is only gonna call me. I feel like
I'm gonna get sorded. I don't know, like like I'm
gonna sort We're gonna make that work.

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
We're gonna get stabbed. Why are you.

Speaker 1 (01:17:27):
Gonna get well, I'm not full stabbed. It's just like
the slices, you know, Like I'm gonna lose portions of limbs.
So yeah, no, I'm going chicken sorted.

Speaker 4 (01:17:35):
Picturing you guys have like a bad day of work
and man the chicken.

Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
Now look at the feet before you open the door
to get in the car.

Speaker 3 (01:17:43):
Maybe you forgot you're having a bad day. You're walking
to the car, and then all of a sudden you realize,
Oh my god, that damn chicken's waiting for it again.

Speaker 1 (01:17:51):
Oh God, what do you got next?

Speaker 4 (01:17:53):
Well, jeezus, all right, we'll switch over to sports for
this one. Would you do you rather be an athlete
and play for one team your entire career and never
win a ring or play for multiple to get a championship.

Speaker 1 (01:18:09):
I just want championships. No, like because at the end
of the day, like you're asking me, you know, can
it be big shot Bob or can I be some
random guy that plays my whole guy? Yeah? No, I
want all the chips you can give me. I want rings.
I want to flaunt my rings, like as a guy
that you know flaunts the record placks I have. Yet
I'll take all of them. I'm a mercenary.

Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
Oh I hate that we are going to agree here.

Speaker 1 (01:18:30):
Of course, you're a mercenary. You have no heart. There's
no connection for Buck Rising.

Speaker 3 (01:18:34):
Well, you know also, I'm a shell pony, and I
like to tell people that I do big things and
enjoy things and win things, and they're better than that. Yeah,
you know it comes with the territory.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
Yeah, give me the rings. All right?

Speaker 5 (01:18:46):
I like this one.

Speaker 4 (01:18:47):
Would you rather commute two hours to work every day?
I'm assuming that's a normal sized apartment you live in
or house, or live in a tiny apartment right next
to your job.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
Oh, I would rather live in a tiny apartment right
now next to my job, no question, inspactor.

Speaker 3 (01:19:02):
There is no nothing in the world that is going
to make me sit through two hours of traffic.

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
You insane.

Speaker 1 (01:19:10):
I don't know, man, I like my Space. I'm taking
the two hour commute each way. I'll find a way
to listen to pods and I'll listen to more Fox
Sports Radio in the process. You got one more quick
one for us, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
Company man, all right?

Speaker 1 (01:19:20):
Today?

Speaker 4 (01:19:20):
Would you rather be a forty nine ers fan or
a commander's fan?

Speaker 1 (01:19:23):
Commanders? Commanders all day? Buck, what do you got?

Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
Commanders?

Speaker 3 (01:19:27):
They've had it so bad for so long, and now
they get to be they get to be the bill
of the ball.

Speaker 2 (01:19:32):
It's not so bad.

Speaker 1 (01:19:33):
Look at that. Hey, we couldn't have done this show
without Ian by the way, producer extraordinaire Mary on the
board absolutely doing great work, and of course Martin giving
us all the updates. So this was the first time
Buck Rising and I, after ten years of friendship, got
to be together on radio, which is incredibly meaningful. So
we have to take a second and thank the bank,
the bosses at Fox Sports Radio. Buck, anything you want to.

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
Say, uh yeah, have me back. I had fun.

Speaker 1 (01:19:55):
Oh my god, Okay, that was it. Like I queued
you up for all of that and you gave me.
Have me back. He's Buck Rising on Jason Fitz. Coming
up next on Fox Sports Saturday, Steve Hartman VJ Husky
Don't Go Anywhere. Thanks for letting us entertain you for
the last few hours.

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