Andy Furman & Bucky Brooks React To Deebo Samuel Traded To Washington, Devin Booker & The Suns Dysfunction, Tush Push Bans, NIL Fuels, And Much More!!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
All right for one NFL team? Can lightning really strike twice?
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Speaker 3 (00:09):
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Speaker 3 (00:36):
He is my guy.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
I wait seven days as well to see him, talk
to him and we discuss everything under the sun.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
Bucky Brooks, how are you? How are you? Bucky Brooks?

Speaker 4 (00:47):
Of good Andy? What's happening?

Speaker 3 (00:49):
You sound great? You really do?

Speaker 4 (00:50):
You know?

Speaker 2 (00:51):
I'm gonna say this, I don't know who's handling like
the marketing for the NFL over the last several years.

Speaker 4 (00:58):
It did.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
It's ingenious. I mean, this sport is great, but they've
taken it to another level because you cannot turn around,
you cannot leave, you cannot live without hearing, reading, or
seeing anything about the NFL every single day of the year.
It's amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
I mean, the Super Bowl's like three weeks old already,
but they're still talking about trades. You know, they had
this combine thing. People go crazy watching that stuff on TV.
I can't watch it for more than ten minutes. It's
guys running around in their underwear and the timing them.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
I don't get it.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
I mean, you do, you're a scout, you're a pro guy.
You know that stuff. I don't understand what it does.
I mean for personnel guys. It's great, but it's ingenious
that they put it on TV and people watch that.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
Now they got this trade.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
You know, the forty nine is trading Deebo Samuel, so
they get some media attention on the trade. But the
trade has to be agreed on when the NFL season
begins officially March twelve, So they get some press now
for the potential trade. Then on March twelfth, they got
some more press because now they introduced depot to Washington.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
It's amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
I mean, you cannot turn the corner without day in
and day out coverage of the National Football League. I
can't believe it. And as a former PR guy, I
am certainly impressed. I'm not certain people have done it
or maybe it's the sport. I can't believe one person
created this. It's the sport itself.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
Is that interesting? I believe?

Speaker 4 (02:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (02:18):
No, I think the NFL has done a great job
of making the sport relevant.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
Three sixty five.

Speaker 5 (02:25):
You know, every day every month there's some kind of
tempole event for the National Football League that forces fans
to watch in If you think about the super Bowl
being in February. This to combine extending into Marsden free
agent frenzy, and then you eventually have the Draft in April,
mini camps and all those things that populate the summer,

(02:46):
and then when the season kicks off, like when you
start having July like it takes you all the way
through the calendar year. Roger Goodell and the people that
he's worked with have really done a great job of
extending the reach. They've expanded into the international spear, everything
that's related to football, Like whatever they do, they can't miss.

(03:07):
So it looks it's great to be associated with a
game that's so popular, and they do a great job
of maintaining that popularity despite the ups and downs that
are normally associated with fandom.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
There's no doubt about that. And you know what, in life,
they always say, it's not what you know, it's who
you know. And even in the National Football League, even
with a great skill set like Deebo Samuel, the Commanders
they got some connection here with Deeba because the general
manager of the Commander's, Adam Peters, was an assistant GM
with the forty nine Ers, so he knew exactly what
he was getting or what he wanted. And I think
the Anthony Lynn, the Commander's run game coordinator, was an

(03:40):
assistant coach with the forty nine his way back in
the day, so they know Deebo Samuel. They kind of
zoomed in them. I think it'd be great. I mean,
it's gonna be a heck of a move for the
Commanders right now because they got Jayden Daniels right now,
who is the offensive rookie of the year. Now they
got Deebo Samuels. However, I think there's a question because
I think they knew they got about fool There three

(04:00):
or four top receivers on the Commanders that are potential
free agency and they may lose them. So they got
Deepo in there coming off with a nee injury, but
there's still I think it's a great move for the
Washington Commanders.

Speaker 5 (04:12):
Well, it's a great move because there's a lot of
familiarity with the player. Adam Peters was former assistant general
manager or whatever the San Francisco forty nine is. He
certainly knows Deebo Samuel well. Anthony Lynn most recently had
been one of their assistants. I think he came over
when Dan Quinn came over, so he just left there
a year or two ago. So he also understands Deebo Samuel,

(04:35):
which I think is really important that you know the
player because when you're making these moves and you're bringing
someone into a new situation, you want to make sure
that the player fits the locker room, that he understands
kind of the culture that is established, and you want
to make sure that your coaches also know how to
deal with the player and his temperament and those things.
Don't forget that Deebo Samuel had a few dust ups

(04:58):
internally with some of his his own teammates in San Francisco.
He can be a little volatile when it comes to
just voicing his opinion and is interacting with coaches. So
you want to make sure that when you bring him
in that you have coaches that are comfortable with him,
that he respects the coaches that are there, and that
they have a way of kind of finding these middle

(05:19):
grounds when situations arise. I think it's a great move
because they know the player. Now he's thirty years old.
He's not the player that he once was. He does
have some durability concerns because he can't get beat up
in his reckless style in which he operates. But the
prospect of putting him with Terry McLaurin and this running game,

(05:40):
you are adding more weapons around Jayden Daniels and that
is only going to night the Offense's who made the
offense look that much better.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
No doubt about that.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Now, last year he only I looked at the stats
like eight hundred and six scrimmag jodge four touchdowns, stay
with career lows.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
But he didn't play much. You know, he had a calf.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
Injury, a wrist injury or bleak of rib injuries, had
an illness, so it cost him a couple of games
on the sideline. Would now on this deal that he
goes to Washington give him a deal like the amount
of games that he might play as an incentive clause
because obviously he was hurt. And number two, does he
have to pass a physical. I mean there's a possibility
maybe he won't pass that physical because of the rib

(06:15):
injuries and the oblique injuries.

Speaker 5 (06:17):
Now he passed the physical because they want the player,
so they'll find a way to pass them. I don't
anticipate them extending his deal right away. You want to
see if he still can play and hold up and
where he is not only physically but maturity, what kind
of leadership he provides to the locker room.

Speaker 4 (06:33):
So you play this one out. They have a bunch
of free agents.

Speaker 5 (06:35):
You don't want to add to the costs when you're
still trying to form your nucleus. But a motivated Deebo
Samuel One, who is playing on the final year of
his contract, you can get the best that you can
get from him, not only on the field, but off
the field as he's trying to prove to management that
he's worthy of a new contract.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
I wouldn't extend it now.

Speaker 5 (06:54):
Because that would take away that incentive make him earn
it a little bit. Maybe if it goes well, you
come to him in the middle of the season to
get it done, but you certainly don't get it done
right now.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Okay, So we talked about the Commanders. I think it's
a plus for them though that about that only a
fifth round pick they give up. I mean, I don't
think that's such a big whoop. However, let's look at
the forty nine ers right now. Now they need more
help in the wide receiver situation. Was brandan Auk He's
coming off an injury as well, A to on righte
acl A mcl the whole deal right now. They're hurting
right now. As far as the receiver's course concerned.

Speaker 4 (07:26):
I don't think so.

Speaker 5 (07:27):
I think this had a moved to do less with
the production and performance and more with the person or
the people.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
Remember, Brandon n Ayuk also was rumored to be.

Speaker 5 (07:39):
Shopped around as a potential trade possibility. Last year, you
had a lot of stuff going on in San Francisco
where the team underperformed, and some of the underachievement was
due to everyone not being on the same page. You
had Deebo Samuel doing his thing. He has some incidents
with some players. You had Brandon Ayuk who was upset
with the contract that he signed in the offseason where

(08:00):
he felt like he was shorter, so he was pouting
and open, and there were some things where he wasn't
fully bought in and invested with the team. Maybe cals Shanahan,
after going through all that, says, look, let me just
get the right people in the room. Let me make
sure that we have our locker room environment right, that
the culture is right, that everyone is really bought into
what we're doing, and we'll figure out how to win games.

(08:22):
They've done it that way before, and maybe they're trying
to just clean up their locker room a little bit
and make sure that everyone in the locker room is
pulling the boat in the right direction.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
I hear what you do saying, Okay, I'm going to go
back to the combine for a second, because these stories
come out every year in the Combine. It makes my
head spin. It really does. Little of the LSU Tigers.
The tackle Will Campbell. He was a consensus All American
selection this last year, a two time first team or
SEC pick with the LSU Tigers. He won the coveted
Jacob's Blocking Trophy, one of the highest rated players in

(08:52):
the NFL draft. But after scouting Combine this week, and
that's part of your deal, because you are a scout
in the National Football League, he's been critiqued saying that
his all length isn't long enough. I don't get it.
Talk to me about all link. I mean, this guy
was one heck of a player in college. And now
they say, because he's measured at thirty three and seven

(09:14):
eighths of an inch last year at LSU, they existed
at sixty sixty three twenty three, they don't think he's
going to be that good a body type to play
that position to may have to switch positions to guard.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
We'll see what happens.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Talk to me, how does the all length make that
much of a difference or does it?

Speaker 4 (09:32):
I mean it particilally goes.

Speaker 5 (09:33):
One of the things that you're trying to do when
you're a scout and evaluated is you're trying to mitigate risks.
You're trying to eliminate the things that potentially could lead
to an unsuccessful pick.

Speaker 4 (09:45):
What you do is you gather data.

Speaker 5 (09:46):
You may have a data from the last twenty years
of all the offensive tackles that have played successfully in
the league, or even all these tackles that have played
at a pro bowl level in the league. You're average
those numbers, height, weight, armless, speed, any other measurements that
you can come up with, and they give you a prototype,
and what you do is you measure these prospects versus

(10:09):
those prototypes, and it doesn't mean you dismissed him, but
you may make some great alterations based on how those
players match up with the prototypical standard of what excels
in the league. That's what Will Campbell is enduring right now.
They are looking at his physical traits. They're doing that,

(10:30):
they're just opposing that versus what typically plays at a
high level in the league, and they're beginning to make
some assessments. It doesn't mean that everyone is going to
dismiss him and say that he can't be drafted, but
it's just a point of reference. And as he goes
and performs at his pro day at the combine in
those things, his physical performance, what he does on tape,
what he does in workouts, will help him make a

(10:52):
determination of whether they stick to the prototype or maybe
they use someone who may be viewed as a bit
of an outlier.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
That be some teams going public with that information blowing smoke,
so they wouldn't draft them in that and they could
save Campbell for their draft situation. Is that a possibility, like,
in other words, they could I don't know.

Speaker 5 (11:14):
I mean maybe, but most most teams don't operate like that, right,
They don't operate where they salt a player or a
prospect of hoping that he drops. A lot of times
they just won't mention him. They'll they'll do it through avoidance.
You will never know. They won't bring them in, but
they secretly have their eye on a certain player. Most
of the time, you try not to bash a prospect.

(11:37):
You don't bash them publicly, particularly maybe privately. You may
say some things to people that you're close to close with,
but that's not the normal protocol to bash somebody to
make yourself look better.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
I sometimes do that, really.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Now, I don't mean to buy it sometimes, you know,
here's the situation.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
We never ever talk politics on this show.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
However, the less several weeks we kind of brought in
some politicians and their names, and again we're going in
that direction. You're talking about the NFL getting pub almost
every day of the year. So is our president. I mean,
he's got a laundry list of things he wants to do.
And President Trump said, I guess it was Friday.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
He's going to.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
Pardon baseball great Pete Rose, and he criticized Major League
Baseball for bearing for taking was the old time hit
leader Pete Rose obviously and not putting him in the
Baseball Hall of Fame for gambling.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
Here's the deal. I mean he Trump could only pardon
Rose's conviction and imprisonment for tax evasion. That has nothing
to do with baseball or.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
The Hall of Fame, all right, But I'm hoping that
he's smart enough where he has people around him to
tell him that's the deal. But people are getting all
bunched up right now. They're getting their shorts in a
wad right now, saying, wow, Pete Rose is going to
the Baseball Hall of Fame. I'd love to see it happen.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
I think he's deserving of it.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
I don't see it happening because the pardon right now
will just be the tax evasions.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
The conviction on that, right, It's amazing.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
I mean, you know from I'm watching the news the
other day and it goes from Zelenski and Ukraine to
Pete Rose. How does that happen in this man's mind.
I'm impressed. He's got like a list of things on
the checklist and all of a sudden, the Pete Rose
story came out.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
It's amazing.

Speaker 5 (13:24):
Yeah, it was interesting to read about the p Rose
story and what they're talking about doing. And obviously there
is an attempt to kind of clean up his background
so he can't have an opportunity to go into the
to go into the Hall of Fame, and hopefully maybe

(13:44):
he will eventually get in there. I think his play
on the field certainly makes him deserving of being a
Hall of Fame player, and so we'll see how it
plays out. It is interesting when you talk about the
president and how the president kind of the abs and
flows and where he comes from and those things.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
But that's who he's always been.

Speaker 5 (14:05):
I mean, if you think about the first term in
those things, he's always kind of gone and march to
the beat of his own drum. And so the Pete
Rose thing is certainly one of those things that I
don't think there was a public outcry, a passionate public
outcry to get Pete into the Hall of Fame, but
it was always something that was bringing in the backdrop.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
I agree with you the okay.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
Now, I mentioned coming into the segment here that for
one NFL team, lightning can strike twice. And what I
mean by that is the New York Football Giants. They
dumped and they got rid of Sae Kwon Barkley, which
is a crazy move. And now this took that they
may sign a quarterback.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
By the name of Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
I mean, you know, the general manager of the Giants
right now is lucky he's got a job because mister
moraw was nice enough to keep him. But to go
after Aaron Rodgers and what you've told me about him,
he's kind of a cancer in the locker room.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
He beats to his own drum.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
It looks like to me he's groveling and begging for
a job because he basically what I've read is that
he called the Giants. That's what he's done. I know
the Giants are need of a quarterback, but you know,
I don't think Aaron Rodgers is the guy.

Speaker 4 (15:09):
Yeah, So it's interesting.

Speaker 5 (15:11):
Since I've been in the combine, I've I've had a
lot of conversations with people. Some of those people came
from the Jets, and they told me point blank that
all the issues that took place with the Jets were
not directly related to Aaron Rodgers. He can be a
little bit different when he goes on the show, but
they said, look, at no point was he really a
bad teammate. He certainly didn't kind of tear up their situation.

(15:34):
If anything, they blamed the former coach, and that would
be Robert Salad in terms of not controlling or.

Speaker 4 (15:39):
Managing the situation.

Speaker 5 (15:41):
More so, not managing the narrative around the situation, meaning
when Aaron Rodgers may have taken some time off, instead
of putting it out there for public assumption, maybe saying like,
oh yeah, he had excuse absence. We had talked about it,
all these things, saying some of these controversies that were
around the Jets.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
Could have been headed off with better public relations.

Speaker 5 (16:02):
As we say, they say, he still can play, he
still has something to offer the team, but you just
have to know what you're getting with when you take
in a marquee player like.

Speaker 4 (16:10):
That, a superstar, if you do things right.

Speaker 5 (16:13):
They still believe that he has some skills to help
a team go to the next level. For the Giants,
you're just looking for some stability. You're looking for someone
where you can win some games. You have two people,
Brian da Ball and Joe Shane who like maybe fighting
for their respective lives in terms of maintaining their jobs,
and so they want to win and win right away

(16:34):
while they rebuild the Giants. I can understand the intrigue
and why you at least have to investigate the possibility
of bringing into four time MVPN.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Okay, Now there's a bit of a connection here because
Matthew Staffords stayed with the Los.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
Angeles Rams' quarterback.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
And it's funny because the head coach of the Ram,
Sean McVay, said just the other day on there was
no doubt in my mind, there was no doubt that
Stafford wanted to be here, be the quarterback. I get it,
you know. I think a lot has to do not
so much with the money, although the Rams are giving
him more money, has a lot to do with legacy,
and the connection there with Rogers and Stafford are quite simple.
The fact that I think Matthew Stafford realizes he has
a better chance to win staying with the Rams, are

(17:10):
going anywhere else, especially going to the Raiders. And I
think that Aaron Rodgers right now should be concerned with
his legacy because I don't think you want to go
out like that, especially the way he went out last
year with the Jets.

Speaker 5 (17:22):
Yeah, I mean, I'm sure he has pride, and there's
been a lot of he's taking on a lot of
criticism during his time with the Jets, particularly coming off
of how he departed from Green Bay. He would like
to change some of that, change some of that perception,
change some of that perspective and narrative around him.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
And the only way to do it.

Speaker 5 (17:42):
Is to go out and play well at forty plus.
Though the odds of him turning his game around and
playing at a higher level they're certainly not in his favor.
He would have to not only play well himself, but
he would have to have the right pieces around him
that would allow him to excel in. Those pieces can't
be those same packer buddies that travel with him everywhere, Like,

(18:04):
you got to eliminate the circus that has kind of
come to town wherever Aaron Rodgers has come to town. You
got to find a way to put really good young
players around him, and he has to be willing to
work with that. To me, that's why this situation Aaron
Rodgers and the Giants, I'm not in love with Aaron
Rodgers certainly can play. He should get another opportunity to
play somewhere else. I think you have to know exactly

(18:27):
who you are, what you need before you kind of
call him and say, hey, we.

Speaker 4 (18:33):
Want you to be our QB.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
One sounds great by the way he is.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
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Speaker 3 (20:09):
There we go.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
You know, I got a question here with this Matthew
Stafford situation and Matthew Stafford obviously remaining with the Rams,
I got a question and it kind of bugs me
a little bit. Maybe it's just me, but his wife
talks more than he does. I don't hear any quotes
about Matthew Stafford. I didn't even hear Matthew Stafford say
anything at all about him staying or remaining with the Rams.

(20:31):
But I hear Kelly all the time. Now I'm gonna
say something. I read sports, I follow sports. I never
hear from missus Lebron James. I never hear from missus
Saquon Barkley after he won the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
I don't hear from any.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
Other quarterbacks better half ever, except for Kelly Stafford. Why
is she always out there? And why are they quoting her?
And Matthews speak up a little bit? Does that bug
you a little bit too, Bucky?

Speaker 5 (20:56):
Look, man, I can't tell a man how to handle
his situation at home with his partner, and if he
opts to have his partner speak up and talk for him.
She certainly has a podcast, so she has a platform
to be able to do it, and we are at
a time where more significant others are speaking out and
taking advantages of the opportunities that are afforded to their

(21:18):
partners who may be celebrities or athletes and those things
to kind of lift up and build their own careers.

Speaker 4 (21:25):
That's what she has done. But I think for Matthew.

Speaker 5 (21:27):
Stafford, he probably understands how to manage and help control
the things that need to be controlled and minimize some
of the things that can be problematic when he needs to.
But right now he certainly doesn't feel the need to
kind of muzzle her when it comes to her opinions
and takes on his career and the plight of the Rams.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
You are so politically correct. That's why I love You're
really and that's great. There we go.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
But you know, there was a little controversy here with
this Matthew Stafford situation because the minority owner of the
Raiders happens to be Tom Brady, and apparently they claimed
they met at a ski resort in Montana. This was
according to the Las Vegas Review Journal. Now here's the deal.
Multiple outlets reporter that the NFL said there was no
issue because the Rams had granted Stafford permission to speak

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out with other teams, so it wasn't tampering, okay. But
there were conflicting reports as to whether Brady and Stafford's
meeting was formal or just a chance encounter. And from
Fox Sports NFL, the Fox Sports NFL instid of Jordan Schultz,
he reported that the two met at Brady's home in
Montana to discuss joining Las Vegas and the Raiders. However,
the network the NFL Networks, Ian Rappaport said, and this

(22:37):
was like right after that that story came out. They
had a chance encounter at a ski resort and did
not include extensive talks about Stafford during the Raiders. Who
knows Now, I don't know if you were there you
saw this happening, but apparently Shultz and Rappaport got into
it at the lobby in Indianapolis during the combine. And
I don't know if it came the FISTA compsaid, whatever,
did you were you there when this happened?

Speaker 3 (22:59):
Did you hear the buzz about this thing?

Speaker 5 (23:02):
I certainly heard the buzz about it, but I was
not there physically. And I think what's interesting is Jordan
Schultz is the son of the founder or one of
the founders of Starbucks, Howard Schultz, and for the incident
to take place there is ironic, but sometimes these things
can be heated. As competitive. As we talk about football
and sports and what happens on the field, the scoop

(23:26):
business is also controversial. So when Jordan Schultz feels like
Ian Rapp report undercut his reporting or kind of made
his reporting to be like it was not factual, he
took a look, he took issue with it, and sometimes
those can lead to tense interactions because you know, confrontation

(23:48):
and conflict involves a little bit of that.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
I mean, these guys who are up there out there
and they bang them the payment, then they want to
get this story right and a lot of aggressiveness and
that's good.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
I mean, these guys aren't laziest.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
By the way, I got to mention, we're live from
the Tiraq dot Com studios and I'm moving along now
to the NBA because I'll talk about the Phoenix Suns.
And you got players on this team. You got Devin Booker,
you got the players really and truly that are all
star players. And there's a good chance the Phoenix Suns
won't go to the playoffs this year. Their record right
now as we speak, I think it's like twenty eight
and thirty two. There were eleventh in the West, about

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three and a half games beyond Sacramento Kings for the
final playoff spot. And Devin Booker and I love Devin
Brooker played for Kentucky. He was asked how the Son's
got in this position?

Speaker 3 (24:30):
Really? What happened?

Speaker 2 (24:31):
I mean really, and truly it shouldn't have been this way.
I mean, honestly, this team is better, at least on
paper than they should be. And Devin Booker we had
some sound. He got it, and he had something to
say about what's going on with the Phoenix Sons and
the coaching.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
Devin, maybe he's sleeping, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (24:54):
Probably know it's kicking over the details and you know,
always taking.

Speaker 4 (24:58):
Up you know, get it, the next Dame mentality.

Speaker 5 (25:01):
At some point you gotta draw a line and should
have been drawn a long time ago.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
All right.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
It basically said there's gotta be constant communication in the huddles.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
I get that.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
And he said that it starts with him and Kevin
Durant and Bradley Bild it. You have to believe that
Kevin Durant and the Devin Booker two all stars, and
then I could go to the playoffs. But and their coach,
Mike Budenholzer. Okay, first of all, his remarks right there
are probably going to cause Budenholzer's job.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
Agreed. I mean he's gonna be fired.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
They don't make the playoffs, and then you got some
internal problem with your star.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
He's gone. I'm sure he's gonna be gone.

Speaker 4 (25:37):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (25:39):
Maybe he should be gone, and if it's what it
is reported out to be. But here's what I'll say
about Devin Booker. Because you said lack of communication. I
don't think that's the lack of communication. I would say
that's a lack of accountability. When he talked about we
have a next day mentality where we kind of say
push it off to the next day, what he's saying is,

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coach doesn't address the issues that we have right when
they pop up. He prefers to kind of sweep it
up under the rug and we will deal with it
down the road, but never wanting to really deal with
it because it does require some conflicts, some confrontation, some
demanding and those things to me, that's what he's saying. He'saying,
Buttenholzer is not holding everybody accountable. And understand this coming

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on the heels of this team, or Devin Booker and
KD being a part of the gold medal Olympic team
and knowing the coaches and those things that have been
a part of that. They want to be coach art.
Every athlete wants to be coach art. That's worth the salt,
and so they just need to get that done. It

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is something that certainly isn't occurring in Phenix.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
You know, it's funny. I hear this soul of time. Oh,
the modern day athletes a lot different. They got to
be handled with kid gloves and things like that. I
disagree because I see successful coaches, at least on the
college level. I'm not so certain. I don't follow the
NBA that much from a distance. I do, but I
look at guys like at UCLA, Mick Cronin, they were
slumping the UCLA Bruins early on.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
He got in the face of these players. They're playing basketball.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Now.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
I lost yesterday, but still in all he did it,
and he got from good teachers. He was on the
bench with Rick Patino. He learned from Bob Huggins, and
those guys are successful coaches, the Hall of Fame coaches,
and I see that. I see that happening now. So
I think that athletes are athletes all over. I don't
care how much money they make. They want to be pushed,
They want to be the best, and you need to
have a leader that could get them there.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
And look, this is what Booker said.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
I'd rather two people say the wrong thing to each
other out there, that nobody talking there at all, and
leave the gray area. This is what Booker said. So
it's like any job or any group check that you do,
you have to do it together. These guys want to win,
and there's got to be a way and a meaning,
a connection between the coaching staff and the players.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
And it's not happening right now.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
However, there's a kind of a hitch in this story
because apparently Friday, Chris Haynes reported that budenholds A, the
coach of the Suns, told Booker to be less vocal.
Maybe Booker's talking too much. There's a problem out there
in Phoenix, and that team shouldn't be twenty eight and
thirty two.

Speaker 5 (28:13):
I mean Obviously there is a problem in Phoenix, and
I am a little concerned that they're not able to
get on the same page that they're airing their a
grievances out in public conception for the rest of us
to know what's going on, as opposed to kind of
handle it behind closed doors. But obviously, look, Devin Booker

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wants to win, Budenholzer wants to win. They have to
figure out the best way to get on the same
page to be able to win and win at the
highest level. But it certainly isn't going the way that
it needs to go for a team that should have
been one of the better teams.

Speaker 4 (28:50):
In the league.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
Right you know, it's almost a good thing if you're
a fan of the Phoenix Suns, because teams that are
looking to get into the playoffs and not going to
get to the playoff, you don't hear any noise out
of them. You know, at least this team right now,
and they're three and a half games right now, I
think behind the Sacramento Kings to try to get that
list playoffs, but the play in situation at tournament, you know,
at least there's a caring factor. Other teams that are

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buried out there, but they don't see the care because
I don't hear any noise coming from them. So I
think this could be somewhat of a positive. Maybe things
can turn around. There's still some time.

Speaker 5 (29:24):
I mean, there's still plenty of time, and you hope
that those things can turn around. But you certainly don't like.
You don't like what's going on. You don't like that
it hasn't been handled to this degree, to this point.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
It could be worse. It could be worse. You could
have somebody's playing and say I want to get out
of here, I want to be traded. It could be worse.
So you're not hearing that.

Speaker 5 (29:44):
I mean, yeah, certainly it could be worse. But it look,
it's just not ideal.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
It is not ideal, you know, it's not ideal. NFL
players playing on artificial turf. The age old question is
coming up again, coming up right now because of the
twenty twenty six feet of World Cup in soccer. Be
the moments for the NFL Players Association. They want to
kind of gain ground and the grass versus turf playing
surface debate. This thing will never go away as long

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as there's injuries in the National Football League did this problem? Turf, grass, whatever,
will never go away. And obviously, with the interest in
playing more international games, they're playing these games on soccer pitches,
which is grass. Really, that's the problem right there, right
And you got to tell me what is the difference
you played the game?

Speaker 3 (30:32):
Is there a major difference? Is to make that much
of a difference? Are there more injuries?

Speaker 2 (30:35):
Have they done studies the fact that they play on
turf rather than grass.

Speaker 5 (30:41):
There are plenty of studies that have done and they
normally show that grass is the safer option. But grass,
from an owner standpoint, is more expensive. You have to
repair it, and you want to think about it beyond football.
If you are a stadium that has concerts and all
different types of things that you're using for the stadium,

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grass is not ideal. And it's not ideal because the
change of buility and maintaining it and all that stuff.
Whereas turf you can slide things on and off of
it without damaging the turf. That's why owners don't typically
like to deal with it. Even though it's safer for
the players, it's more expensive, and you know, whenever there's

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money involved, some owners always tend to take the cheap route, right.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
Half of the league's thirty stadiums use our artificial turf,
and it varies. Obviously, there's different kinds obviously between each
stadium right there. But there's six stadiums in the NFL Atlanta, Boston, Dallas, Houston, LA,
and New Jersey. They will temporarily install natural grass services
ahead of hosting matches during the World Cup. So obviously

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the NFL PA, I would think they're going to vote
on this, but they're gonna say, you're going to put
in their grass for the soccer matches for the World
Cup and for our NFL games and we'll have maybe
seven or eight a year in the stadium. You can't
put gress in there for our guys that are really
and truly uh, you know, big time athletes getting paid
big money, and our fans want.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
To see them and they don't want to see them.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
Hurts.

Speaker 5 (32:15):
Yeah, I mean that's something to be said, you know,
Like the fans really want to see the best players,
and owners want to see their best players, but there
is a cost that comes with that, and everyone is
not willing to pay the cost. And we'll soon find
out that everybody's not in this to compete at.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
The highest level.

Speaker 5 (32:33):
And if you're any to compete at the highest level,
then you don't mind paying whatever you need to pay.

Speaker 4 (32:37):
To do it.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
That's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
I mean when you say that, not everybody's there to
compete at the highest level, what do you mean by that?

Speaker 3 (32:44):
What does that mean? I mean own?

Speaker 5 (32:47):
Yeah, Yeah, everybody's not. Everyone's not pursuing the same thing.
There's certain things that need to be done to play
at a high level, and some of that comes to
spending money on players, not just salaries, but spending money
on your facility, spending money on food, spending money on
proper treatment, and all that other stuff.

Speaker 4 (33:05):
Owners have to be willing to do that. You just
saw the reaction of the.

Speaker 5 (33:08):
NFLPA survey where players anonymoately anonymously submitted grades of their
own organizations, and you saw some of the scathing feedback
that some of these organizations received for their lack of
family treatment, dining hall, training staff, strength, staff, all of
those things. Yeah, if you want to be a first

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class organization, you got to roll out the red carpet
to make sure that your players have everything they need.
Then you can hold them to a high level of
accountability based on saying I've given you everything that a
championship team could have.

Speaker 4 (33:41):
You need to now put up those results or I
need to find better players.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
I think you pointed a finger at Cincinnati PILs in
that study. In that survey, they were complaining about the food,
they were complaining about the showers, the locker room. It
was amazing, it really was. I couldn't believe it. Plus,
they have the least amount of the scouts of any team
in the National Football League. So I'm not saying they
don't want to win, but they want to win on
a tight, small budget.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
That's what they want to do.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
But it certainly looks like the picture being presented to
the public right now looks like they don't want to
win because they're not doing what other teams do to win.

Speaker 5 (34:12):
I mean, yes, that is some of that, but they're
not alone and that there's some other teams that refuse
to fully open up the wallet to give themselves a
be the best chance to win. And sometimes you have
to win in spite of those things. But it makes
it really really difficult when you don't feel like everyone
is pouring in to give you the best chance to win.

Speaker 4 (34:35):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
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Speaker 4 (34:36):
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Speaker 2 (34:37):
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Speaker 3 (34:55):
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Speaker 2 (34:57):
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Speaker 3 (35:03):
And of course it is that time. Let's do it.
Ask Bucket? What about eleven minutes before the top of
the hour? All right?

Speaker 2 (35:11):
Spotting the football became a hot topic during the playoffs.
Why after the Bills quarterback Josh Allen fell inches short
of converting a crucial fourth down against the Kansas City
Chiefs That was in the AFC Championship game. And there's
going to be new Hawkeye technology for first down starting
in twenty twenty five. The chain gang, if needed, will
remain on the sidelines. The hope is that the new

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first down technology will lead to quicker and more efficient
calls your thoughts about this, mister Brooks.

Speaker 5 (35:41):
I mean, I understand using technology, but there's something nostalgic
to me about the chain game. I understand you want
to make sure that you get it right, but look,
I just always think part of football is being able
to look over the sideline and see in the.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Chain game eliminating jobs that they're going to be doing.
I mean, do you know anything about how much these
guys get pay the chain gang? And are they hired
by the NFL or the local club?

Speaker 4 (36:04):
No? That I don't know. I wish I could help you.
I don't know anything about it.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
I would think the high by the NFL because I
think they wear NFL garb on the sidelines, so I
think they get paid by the NFL.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
Whatever it may be, Okay, we move on.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
The nc DOUBLEA Football Rules Committee proposed modifications to injury
timeout rules during the twenty five to twenty six season
in an effort to curtail forty injuries that slow the
tempo of a game, and some of the changes would
be an automatic timeout assessed to teams that have medical
personnel enter the field to play after the ball has

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been spotted by officials. Now, if the offending team is
out of timeouts, it will be assessed a five yard
delay of game.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
All right, but this rule silets to.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
Be approved by the NCUBLEA Playing Rules Oversight Panel, and
they're going to meet April sixteenth. What do you think
about this? Is there a lot of those forty injuries?
Is there enough to change these rules?

Speaker 5 (37:00):
I mean, they've always tried to do something to eliminate
defenses slowing down high tempo offenses with injuries that they
deem to be fake or not significant. This is trying
to level the playing field, making sure that defensive opponents
aren't taking advantage. Brett Bilma and Shane Beemer got into
it during a bowl game this year over such things.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
They're trying to clean that up to keep some of
this stuff from happening.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
So why wouldn't the nc DOUBLEA do something with the
basketball situation, with the flop that they do for offensive
foul goals?

Speaker 3 (37:31):
I don't think they do anything for that that That
must be enough.

Speaker 5 (37:35):
Must not have enough coaches and people talking about it
to create that you know, hey, we need to go
address this or talk about this and make sure we
get this squared away, et cetera.

Speaker 4 (37:46):
Et cetera.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
All right, Speaking of basketball, the NCUBA Basketball Committee plans
no expansion for March Madness.

Speaker 3 (37:55):
Your thoughts about that.

Speaker 4 (37:58):
Everybody gain't go to the party.

Speaker 5 (38:00):
I mean, they have enough teams already, they don't need
to expand it. At some point, you want to make
it a bit of an exclusive club. That's part of
the entry. If you wanted the regular season to matter,
you have to cut off. You got to cut off
the number at some point. And look, I think sixty
eight or whatever it is.

Speaker 4 (38:15):
Is good number.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
All right.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
Last night the Golden State Warriors were playing basketball and
Stefan Burry, I said, so, Steph was excuse me, Steph Curry,
not Burry. Steph Curry had his first.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
Slam dunk since twenty nineteen, and he said it's his
last dunk. Are you surprised about that? Because you know,
he's one of those guys that really is not a showman,
which I respect for that. But I used to come
in on breakaways just lay the ball in. So why
all of a sudden now with a dunk, and why
would he dunk not dunk all these years? Last one
was in twenty nineteen.

Speaker 5 (38:53):
Maybe he had a little bit maybe he was getting
rads in the locker room about all of his layups,
and so you wanted to prove to them to hey, look,
I still a guy it if I need it, it's
still in my bag, but it's not one of the
things that he focuses on. And now that I've proven
to you that I still can dunk, yeah, I'm gonna
go back to my old life. I'm shue jumpers, set
shots and layups and leave that other stuff to the
other guys.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
All right, I want to go back to this, Rob
Man for reviewing the bit to reinstate Pete Rose. What's
your take on that and what are the percentages in
your mind to think that Pete Rose will be reinstated,
maybe even get into the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 5 (39:25):
My real take on it is, I think some of
this is political pressure on the commissioner to open up
the thing and look at Pete Rose. No one wants
to deal with the president not coming down on their side.
So I think Manfred is going to review it, and
I think ultimately they're going to set a situation up
where Pete Rose can get to the Hall of Fame.

(39:47):
He is a Hall of Fame player. Between the lines
and a lot of times we use morality things to
keep people out. And I feel about Pete Rose the
same way I feel about Barry Bonds and Roger Clements.
You cannot tell the history of the game without discuss
those three people.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
Well said, Okay, that'll wrap up our addition of ass
Bucky right now, got so much more. We've got two
more big hours here with Bucky Brooks and your phone
calls always welcome. Here at eight seven, seven ninety Ninered Fox.
This is Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radios. Football's
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get to that in just about a minute. Good morning,
this is Fox Sports Sunday. I'm Fox Sports. Ready, he's
Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Furman, and we're broadcasting live from
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and Rolling for three big ones today, I gotta run
this by here. I just Steve the Sega doing the
sports updates top of the hour, and really and truly
the fact that he's giving women's basketball scores on the

(40:57):
college level USC of UCLA, Juju Watkins getting out there.
You know, I'm impressed. I'm amazed. I'm happy to hear that, really,
because they've come a long way. And whoever thunk that
you could turn on the TV set on a Friday
or Saturday night prime time and watch women's college basketball.
If someone told me that three four years ago, I've

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left in their face. Really, but that's what it's at.
And I think it's great.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
I really do. I think it's great. I think it's
a great game. I really do.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
Here's the problem though, in the market where I live in,
and the University of Cincinnati women's team will probably go postseason.
They've got a pretty good team. You have to find
them with a microscope to get coverage.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
No highlights on TV, no stories in the press. I
don't get.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
And Xavier, I know, Zavier University, the other Division I
school in our marketplace, not a great season this year,
something like seven and eighteen, whatever it may be. But
still in all, they deserve coverage. They deserve the coverage,
so I don't understand why they're not getting any. I
think that's got to come from the school. I don't
think that comes so much from the outlet as much
as the school's got to bang the door down a
little bit. But I think it's just great seeing these

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women's games getting prime time coverage.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
I'm amazed, I really am you.

Speaker 5 (42:09):
I've always been a fan of the women's game. I'm
excited that it's been a bit of an explosion. Some
of that has happened as we've become more familiar with
the stars. I'll say this, Kaylyn Clark and her class
has certainly taken the game to another level. The generation
of stars that are coming right behind them. You talk

(42:30):
about ju Ju Watkins who plays for USC, Paige Bukers,
who's up at Yukon. The great ladies that are playing
at South Carolina, and the coaches that have been very
vocal advocates of the game have led us to spend
more time watching the game. TV has provided us with
more access and outlets, and all of that has been

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really really positive to kind of see young ladies get
some of the same opportunities that guys have gotten on
the bigger state for the.

Speaker 4 (43:00):
Longest time, but there's still more work to be done.

Speaker 5 (43:03):
I just think that when you watch the women's game, one,
you can't compare the women's game to the men's game
in terms of all I want to see hogh flying
dunks or whatever. But there is a great appreciation for
some of the purity that exists in the women's game,
the passing, the lack of isolation stuff.

Speaker 4 (43:20):
There appears to be a.

Speaker 5 (43:20):
Greatest sense of team when you watch the ladies play,
and for traditionalists, purists, that is refreshing, and I.

Speaker 4 (43:29):
Think that's why you're getting some of the bump. And
you're also.

Speaker 5 (43:32):
Getting some fantastic players that are expiring some young women,
young girls in look elementary, middle school, high school, to
play the game.

Speaker 4 (43:41):
All of it has led to a better product on
the floor.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
No doubt about that. Now you mentioned Kaitlyn Clock and
I would say this, what she had done by playing
in the college game is open the door and showing
us the public what the women's game is all about.
Because she was doing so good and did so much,
we say, well, what is doing Let's take a look.
But if the game was not stable, if the game
was not popular, if the game was not attractive enough

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to the public. It wouldn't make a difference if Caitlin
Clark had great records or not, because the game was
able to sell through her opening the door. And also
they had a great situation because you need a villain
in professional sports, I don't care what the sport is,
and they had one because it was Angel Reeves versus
Caitlin Clark. You know, back in the day when the

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NBA was doing their playoffs on tape delay, they had
magic and byrd they had the villain and the hero.
Whoever you want to make the villain and hero in
that situation. But that's the way it is in the
NBA right now. Lebron James love him, I hate him.
He's somewhat of the villain. I think you have to
have a villain and teams. Teams are villains.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
Back in the day, when the Yankees dominated baseball, they
were a villain.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
People came out to boo him. The Boston Celtics were
a villain. That's the way it is this year. I
think the Kansas City Chiefs basically where the villain. In
the NFL, people wanted to see them lose. They were
tired of them.

Speaker 3 (45:01):
The way it is, that.

Speaker 4 (45:04):
Is the way it is.

Speaker 5 (45:06):
People do get tired of seeing certain teams always participating,
always around the mix, always kind of doing things. And
it is better when you have rivals rivalries bring about
I would say, like some feelings, emotions, some we talked about, confrontation,
some of those things, like all of that is in play,

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and it certainly makes it a more entertaining thing because
you have to fall on one side of the debate.
You know, you get guys bad guys. However it deemed
to be. But it makes it more compelling when you're
watching the games if these teams have a healthy distaste
for one another.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
Okay, In the National Football League, I mentioned the Kansas
City Chiefs with a villain. I think that the Philadelphia Eagles,
if they're not the villain, they're pretty close to it.
And one of the reasons being is the Toush push.
And that as a band trying to stop the Toush push. Okay,
I believe, and help me out here, I think to
run the play, you have that quarterback Jalen Hurt. He
takes the snap, he goes forward with his big fat

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offensive line pushing him, and the running back sae Quon
Barkland is tight end. They push him from behind to
get him over the goal. Is that basically what the
twush push is?

Speaker 5 (46:16):
I mean, yeah, like some people say, it's a combination
of the old quarterback sneak with a little bit of
rugby mixed in and those things. The problem that I
have with people trying to ban it is just because
the Eagles have perfected it doesn't mean that it's a hazard.
There are other teams who have had the opportunity to
use their form of toush push and they haven't done

(46:38):
it as successfully. You cannot legislate out great execution by
some teams. To me, that would be unfair to the
Philadelphia Eagles. Teams got to find a way to stop it,
and when they stop it, then they'll quit using it.
But right now, why ban it? Why take away something that,
to me, look, I think is tremendous. I think there's
an excitement in Philly when they get into the don't

(47:01):
take it away from their fans.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
There's no doubt about that. It's just the whining and
the crying. In other words, we can't do it, so
we don't want you to do it. That's basically it.
But why is it so successful?

Speaker 5 (47:13):
I mean it's hard. I mean you're just talking about
a team that is really perfected low leverage. You have
a strong quarterback and Jadenhurst, who's a former powerlifter coming
up through the ranks.

Speaker 4 (47:26):
You have Sakwon Barktey who's strong.

Speaker 5 (47:29):
Right behind him, and then you have a massive offensive
line that has mastered the technique. To me, it's a
combination of players and scheme that make it work.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
It's amazing because I got the statistic here for you.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
Since the start of twenty twenty two, the Philadelphia Eagles
have converted ninety eight quarterback sneaks of two yards or
less into first downs or touchdowns.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
That's more than.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
Five times the average of the rest of the league.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
This is according to stats. It's amazing, it really is.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
So Now you got the rest of the teams in
the league complaining saying, oh, it's not safe, it's not safe.
Now you know, there really isn't anything that's particularly safe
when you play football, right, I mean, what what is
safe playing in the National foll You played? Nothing's saying
you could be gone on any single play really.

Speaker 5 (48:16):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, I don't. I don't understand what. Yeah,
I don't understand what the big deal is. But I
think I think there's certainly some things where people are
being babies when it comes to it, and that's part
of the league, Like you have some of that, like
when things are going your way, you wind can playing
try and get an overturned so you can be better.
I would say that people have had plenty of opportunity

(48:38):
to study what the Eagles do, and they have to
be better at facing that.

Speaker 4 (48:42):
That is a part of who they are.

Speaker 5 (48:44):
So you need to spend more time in your off
season crafting the planet, more time in your training camps
and practices executing that plan on how to stop that play.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
Right, And now they've got this clown for the National
Football League Office, the executive vice president who oversees health
and safety, but Anima Jeff He says the league hasn't
been able to determine whether the relatively new play is
more dangerous than others because it hasn't been run that
often or often enough to produce significant data. All right,
but there's people within the game and within the league

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maintain that it leads to more guys getting hurt, since
the tush push often resembles something more commonly seen on
a rugby pitch than a football field. Come on, really,
I mean you're whining because you can't get it done
and you can't do it so you don't want anybody
else to do it, and the Eagles having a lot
of success.

Speaker 3 (49:32):
But you know what, I'm happy the Eagles do it.
I'll tell you why.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
They couldn't have picked a better coach who is more
flamboyant and has a quick temper than Nick Siriani, who
had a response to this, Nick, what do you have
to say about everybody against your tush push?

Speaker 6 (49:51):
I almost feel a little insulted because we work so
hard at that play, the amount of things that we've
looked into how to coach that play. The fundamentals is
not play that it's easy to practice. There's different ways
we figured out how to practice it.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
I love it, I mean really and truly he probably does.
But really, could other teams be as successful? I mean,
what do you need to have a successful toush push?

Speaker 3 (50:15):
That's crazy, I know.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
I mean, could they do it with a quarterback like
Josh Allen? Could the Buffalo Bills do a toush push.

Speaker 4 (50:23):
Josh Allen is good enough to do their own variation
of it.

Speaker 5 (50:27):
The reason why so hard for teams to match what
Philly does is they spend a lot of time doing it.
They're committed to it, they believe in it, which leads
to players to believe in it, and they've had a
lot of success, but only strengthens that belief in the play.
But you need to have a strong offensive line that
is willing to do it. Do you get to get

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in their four point stands like we've seen these guys
get into the stands. You have to have a quarterback
that is willing and able to do the dirty work
inside because it's not just taking a snap and just.

Speaker 4 (50:57):
Plowing your way through. There's a nuance to it that
Jalen her exhibits, and.

Speaker 5 (51:01):
Then it takes everybody else doing their job, say Korn
Barkley with the push behind the wide receivers kind of
getting up in there doing some stuff. It's a well
coordinated deal, and people that are trying to take it
and practice it for half a day and think they're
going to execute it to the level that the Eagles
are doing it, they're fooling themselves.

Speaker 4 (51:18):
It's a great play man.

Speaker 5 (51:19):
They found the cheat code, and I'm not saying that
people should put a you know, kind of block the loophole.

Speaker 4 (51:26):
Look, I love it.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
It's not cheating. It's part of the game. It's creativity.
It really is. And I think that if other.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
Teams draft offensive lineman that weigh three hundred and fifty
pounds or more, maybe they could get it done as well.
That's basically what the Eagles have. They got a six
foot six, six foot seven guy who was waiting, he
was on the Jets. He weighed four to twenty. He
came down there to like three sixty. So I mean,
you get the big offensive lineman and you're a strong
quarterback on your push.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
That's basically what it is.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
I don't get it, and I'm happy Nick Siriani is
not taking this sitting down on his tush. He really
he'll fight this because I don't think the league's going
to eliminate it.

Speaker 4 (52:00):
You No, they shouldn't eliminate it. I don't think they will.

Speaker 5 (52:04):
And this is some data that comes up that says
that people are getting hurt at an alarming rate.

Speaker 4 (52:08):
We haven't seen that. I don't I don't see the
need to.

Speaker 5 (52:12):
Get rid of it. Like tough cookie. If you can't
stop it, you got to figure out how to stop.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
Right, figure out how to stop it. I mean, don't
eliminate it because you can't stop it. It's a great
part of the game.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
Now.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
I'm sure they did this back in the day, you know,
but they didn't have these terms I push push and
everybody was so you know, infatuated with it, and social
media had it. I'm sure back in the sixties they
did something like this with gold lighte stands with big
backs and things like that, because they had big fullbacks
back in the day and they could do it right.
And they don't have it any longer. They don't have.
The fullback basically is eliminated. There's no more fullbacks in

(52:43):
the National Football League. But since twenty twenty two, Jalen
Hurts has rushed for forty two touchdowns, two thirds of
those touchdowns twenty eight from the one yard line, including
eleven from the one yard line in each of the
past two seasons. In that period, right now, the philadelph
the Eagles have consistently been at one near the top
of the league and converting third and fourth downs, never

(53:06):
executing worse to get this forty one percent on third
downs or sixty eight percent of fourth that's pretty down good.
That's pretty dwn good. But you got the personnel. That's
basically what it's all out. If you get the personnel,
you get it done.

Speaker 5 (53:19):
Yeah, they do have the personnel in place to be
able to get it done.

Speaker 4 (53:23):
I think there.

Speaker 5 (53:24):
Should be a great appreciation for what they've been able
to do. When it comes to their play. The play
has been great for them. They've been able to do it.
They get the right quarterback, which really makes it difficult
because he's so good at finding those cracks and crevices
needed to get those yards right.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
And speaking of personnel, I don't think anybody was surprised
when Travis Kelcey came out, so he's going to play
in twenty twenty five and he said it on TV.
I mean, you know, it's really difficult. I think if
you're a publicity guy. I go back to that because
says by Roots, if you're a publicity guy of a
ball club and you really were set to send out
the release of a signing or your team is going

(54:04):
to retain a guy or guys that have come back
and play. It's hard to do that when a guy
opens his mouth on a media network. I mean, what
do you do. I mean, that's what he did. That's
what Travis Kelsey did. But I'm glad what he did
because he said leaving the way he did last year
left a bad taste in his mouth. And as soon
as I heard that initially, you know, it came to

(54:25):
my mind, Aaron Rodgers. How come Aaron Rodgers didn't say
I want to come back and play this year in
twenty twenty five because last year left a bad taste
in my mouth. I mean, really, it's just two different guys, Travis.
I never met Aaron Rodgers. He may be the nicest
guy in the world. And you told me the combine

(54:45):
people were playing on the Jess. He's a good teammate.
Whatever it might be, he could play whatever. I get it, okay,
but certain things that have to be said. Instead of
talking about vaccinations or don't be vaccinated, tell me that
it left a bad taste in your mouth. He want
to come back and come back strong. I mean, Travis
Kelsey said he's going to come back in the best shape.

Speaker 3 (55:03):
Of his life.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
If you're a fan of the chiefs, if you're a
teammate of his. If you're a coach, you feel great
when one of your players says that.

Speaker 5 (55:13):
Yeah, now you feel outstanding when your players come back.
But I won't hold Aaron Rodgers to that same standard.
Some people choose to express and engage with the public
when it comes to telling their plans, and some people
are more private. I respect Aaron rodgers right to privacy
when it comes to disclosing his intentions for his future

(55:33):
and those things. As it relates to Travis Kelsey, yeah,
it's great that he's coming back. He's a descending player,
meaning that his game is certainly on the decline. But
obviously the league loves seeing him and his lady Taylor
Swift at all the games and all that, and hopefully
they are it would have maintained a relationship and it
continues to be the spectacle that has been for a
team that has been one of the dominant teams that

(55:56):
we've seen in recent years. This is all fun. Look,
I don't see a downside to it. I'm glad Travis
Kelcey is coming back. I hope he finds the piece
that he's looking for by coming back to the game.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
Okay, I got to take you to task on this
because you said that you respect Aaron Rodgers privacy. I
respect everybody's privacy. You know, if you don't want to talk,
you don't talk. But he picks and chooses when he
wants to talk.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
I mean, we learned that he was living in a
hut with no electricity a year ago. That we learned,
we learned that he was anti vax That that's okay.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
You could talk about everything and anything, and when it
comes to you know, playing in the National Football League,
if I'm a teammate, if I'm a potential teammate of his,
if I'm playing for the New York Football Giants and
I hear that my team is kind of looking to
sign this guy, and I know everything about his background.
I've never met the guy. I don't want him on
my team. I don't want him there. I mean, he's
more concerned with political situations, vaccinations, you know, living in

(56:50):
a hut, whatever it may be, instead of talking to me,
Like Travis Kelsey, I love the game. I didn't play well.
I have a bit taste in my mouth. I'm gonna
work out, come back the best shape of my life.
Say that Aaron say if you don't even don't mean it,
just say that because you're going to be my teammate
and all I know about you right now is the
fact that you're a bit of a weirdo.

Speaker 4 (57:11):
Yeah, no, I'm not see I'm against that. I want
him to be authentic.

Speaker 5 (57:15):
So if he doesn't feel compelled to say that, I
don't want him to say it just to make me
feel better.

Speaker 4 (57:19):
What I want to do is I want to take
him for who he is.

Speaker 5 (57:22):
And if he's uncomfortable saying that publicly to us, but
he says it privately to his teammates.

Speaker 4 (57:27):
Cool. Most locker rooms.

Speaker 5 (57:30):
Are about, like, look, you living out your life the
way that you see fit, just doing it within the
team confines, and so you have different types of personalities,
different types of people, all those other things within the
locker room, and people respect Aaron for who he is
as a player in those things. I don't think he
needs to go on a pr campaign to do it,
because that's not really who he is. I just wanted

(57:52):
to be who he is within the confines of being
a good teammate.

Speaker 3 (57:55):
Now, I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
And look, if he had a locker next to mine
in New York on the Giants, and he busted his
butt and he played well and he helped us win.
And he was a great leader in the locker room.
And even though he was an anti vaxxer, maybe I
was not. Maybe he voted for X and I voted
for Y and we're going different directions. That's that's fine.
I don't care in that locker room. We're there for

(58:17):
one thing, and one thing only to win. And if
he wants to win and do the best he can
to help us win, God bless him.

Speaker 3 (58:23):
That's all I want. That's all I want. I mean,
I sure that's all you wanted to when you played
the game.

Speaker 5 (58:29):
Yeah, no, that's I mean, that's that's That's all anybody
wants is for him to be able to just look
just be a good just be a good teammate, be
a part of the squad, be a part of the
UH solution, not a part of the problem. And he
has he has to play well. He didn't play his best,
but he was recovering from a serious injury. Maybe he
has something left.

Speaker 4 (58:49):
The odds are against him having a lot left, just
because of his age.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
Well, speaking of age, Travis Kelsey's thirty five. All right,
I know he's not a quarterback, but still in all
he didn't have a great year. He was held to
like four catches of thirty nine yards and they lost
to Philadelphia in the Super Bowl at thirty five?

Speaker 3 (59:06):
Can he still do it?

Speaker 4 (59:11):
I would say?

Speaker 2 (59:12):
I mean, do you you watch him with a different
NYE than I do? Okay, obviously no, can you tell no?
But you've seen him play. Could you tell that he's
slowed down a little bit last season?

Speaker 4 (59:23):
You've seen the last few seasons.

Speaker 5 (59:24):
He's only been able to turn it on during the postseason,
and some of those like he gets hot late due
to time off. He has rest, He's given a week
off before the playoffs. He's given some time off to
get all the way back right. He has value because
he's Patrick Mahomes's most trusted playmaker on the perimeter. He
and Patrick Mahomes have a chemistry and a connection that

(59:49):
allows him to find holes in the defense using mental
telepathy as opposed to like routes that are put on
on paper.

Speaker 4 (59:58):
That's it.

Speaker 5 (59:59):
Though it's harder for him to win one on one situations,
it's harder for him to win when he's not able
to improvise and turn the game into a sandlot A
fair those things are true, but he's still a really
good player.

Speaker 4 (01:00:11):
He has value.

Speaker 5 (01:00:11):
And what I would do is I would draft a
young player this year that could sit right behind him
and pick his brain and learn how to be an
elite tight end because they need to get younger at
the position and they need more playmakers on the field.

Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
It's amazing. I mean, he went to the University of Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
Who ever thought that he'd be, if not the greatest,
one of the top tight ends in National Football League
history and he came in as a quarterback I believe,
at the University of Cincinnati. But do you think he's
the best tight end ever in the National Football League?

Speaker 5 (01:00:40):
I mean, look, I think he'll go down as the
best tight end ever. Now would I say in a
traditional sense he's the best tight end? No, But in
terms of the numbers, pass catching and all those, yeah, Like,
I mean, he goes in the category that Kellen Winslow
Senior went into playmaker, pass catcher, that stuff. But he's
certainly not the traditional tight end like a Gronkowski he is,
or some of.

Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
The other guys there, twenty Gonzales.

Speaker 5 (01:01:03):
Yeah, and Tony's more of a why but Tony was
more of a pass catcher than like the old school
Mike dickotype.

Speaker 4 (01:01:09):
But there's a place for that. The league has changed.

Speaker 5 (01:01:11):
The league has become more of a passing league than
an old school running league. So the job description is
different for the tight end.

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get into this. YA and Alk be coming up at
about ten to twelve minutes from now. But you saw
it coming. You can't get away from it. There's radio as,
there's TV ads, it's on your phone, it's gambling. It's

(01:02:35):
all over the place. And I don't blame kids for trying.
You have to. It's exposed. Maybe it's overexposed. I don't know,
but let's be transparent here. Let's hear about the stories
surrounding gambling, because.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
You don't hear from them anywhere else. I don't get it.
Maybe there's too much advertising and they want to protect it.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
But what about this one buck Fresno State basketball players
allegedly bet on the team. Three athletes have been implicated
in the alleged gambling issue after Heads basketball coach Vance
Wahlberg and Fresno State notify Fresnoe State of the alleged
sports betting. It's unbelievable. Really, I look again, it's not good.
It's not good for the game. I can't blame the kids.

(01:03:15):
It's all around you. You can't get away from it.
You knew it was gonna happen. I saw it coming.
You saw it coming.

Speaker 4 (01:03:21):
Yeah, we saw it coming.

Speaker 5 (01:03:22):
Like anytime you started letting those entities around the game,
you're going to have some people that can violate that stuff.
And what you've seen is this generation has grown up
being able to have access to apps on your phone.
They've grown up increasingly in a fantasy football basketball world
where betting doesn't seem like an egregious next step. And

(01:03:44):
I know that we have nil and we have people
making money, but it was only a matter of time
before Look, the gamblers penetrated the circle. And that is
a decision that the NCAA. Is the decision that the
NFL has made to get in bid with these sports
books and allow gambling to come in. There's going to

(01:04:05):
be some consequences that come with that, and you're gonna
lose some players along the way because they're not going
to be able to make great decisions consistently to kind
of keep some of those things out of the game.

Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
You know what, I'm not a gamble.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
It's funny because I worked at racetracks most of my life,
dog tracks, harness tracks, storybred racing. Never gambled and it
never interested me. I mean, I guess there's certain things
that certain people have that makes the adrenaline rush all
the time. When I worked at Latonia Racecourse in Florence, Kentucky,
one of our greatest customers really was Pete Rose.

Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
He was there every single night, Okay, And I gotta believe,
and maybe I'm wrong on this, I think.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
He enjoyed losing. I guess like after he lost, he
came back and just banged it again. He came in
one time I'll never forget. He was doing some sort
of a tour in Japan. Came right off the plane
and our racetrack, Oh, your racecourse was about ten minutes
from the airport the Greater Cincinnati Northern Kentucky airport. Came
right from the airport with a big sack and overnight bag,

(01:05:08):
and he says, hey, Andy, take a look at this.

Speaker 3 (01:05:10):
He opened it up.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
There must have been ten thousand dollars in cash in
that bag, and he just he used to love to
fire the cash through the windows. And I think he'd
loved the action more so than winning or losing. I mean,
I guess that's possible.

Speaker 3 (01:05:22):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
I don't have that gene in me to gamble. I
don't think you do either. I would think most most
people probably don't. But when you see it all around
you like you do right now, even on your phone,
it's tough to get away from it.

Speaker 5 (01:05:35):
Yeah, I don't think it's necessarily about the gambling, jink.
I think sometimes like the thing that makes you great
can also be your fatal flaw. So a lot of
the people that we talked about in athletics are highly
competitive people who love the competition of everything. Well, gambling
gambling only intensifies the competition. We've seen guys, And I'm
not saying that Michael Jordan was in implicated in like

(01:05:57):
a major gambling scandal or whatever, but we've seen and
her about his nights where we go to Atlantic City
and play all night before he would play games the
next day because it fed that competitive itch, that desire
that you have. I am probably surprised that more athletes
are not involved in gambling snaffoos, because in the locker room,

(01:06:17):
everything is a competition, whether it's cards, whether it's uh,
look Domino's, anything and everything becomes a competition.

Speaker 4 (01:06:25):
And look, this gambling.

Speaker 5 (01:06:26):
Thing kind of gives you some of that energy that
you don't get when when you're away from the game,
that you missed when you're not competing on the field
or on the hardwood.

Speaker 4 (01:06:37):
I understand it.

Speaker 5 (01:06:38):
And even though we can give like all of these
talks and lectures and say, oh this is bad, look
it's great lines because of so many different factors that
really impact our athletes today.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
You know, I did a lot of reading about this.
You know, bring brought up in New York City, which
is a great basketball city back in the fifties, had
the Big Times gambles, and I pushed the schools like CCNY,
City College of New York, lu Long Island University. They
almost had to shut down their programs because they're gambling, all.

Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
Right, And I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
There was guys on the street corner getting ahold of
these college athletes and giving them money to dump the games?
All right, Now, you've got to score like Fresno State,
which their record right now is something like five and
twenty three. They suspended xey On Collins, Jalen Weaver, and
Michel Robinson. Now a team is on a ten or
eleven game losing streak. They lost seventy two sixty out

(01:07:30):
to the Air Force Academy with only seven guys.

Speaker 3 (01:07:32):
The other day.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
What are they doing? I mean, they're not winning. So
when these gamblers get ahold of them? Or how are
they gambling? I mean, do you know anything about this?
I have no idea how how you get a hold
of Fresnoe State? Of all schools, why Fresnoe State? Why
wouldn't you get ahold of a school like the University
of Houston was just one of the Big twelve. Get
a hold of those guys to dump? I mean, why

(01:07:56):
a score like Fresno State. I don't get it. Help
me out here.

Speaker 5 (01:08:00):
You never know who is being affected. You never know
which players have the itch or the disease. You also
never know like how the origin, how it started, and
where the desperation came from. That Look, man, I am
in such a hole that we have to do this,
and who is the most influential person on the team
that can get the other guys to participate in the scheme.

Speaker 4 (01:08:23):
I mean, it's a lot of stuff. Like normally your
top teams are not going to be.

Speaker 5 (01:08:27):
Involved because like everything is towards them winning the championship.
It makes sense to me that the most vulnerable teams
are the teams at the bottom of the wrong, the
bottom ladder, because they don't have anything really to play for,
and so you have guys that are probably easy to
get to. It's probably more easy to convince them that, look,
no one really cares about your team. Y'all are so

(01:08:49):
far behind.

Speaker 4 (01:08:50):
Why not?

Speaker 5 (01:08:51):
That's why I would think that teams like Fresno State
and others would be vulnerable. But remember, there's another scandal
just coming out simultaneously at North Carolina Central, I mean
not North Central, North Carolina A and T. That was
you had a handful of players implicated. And another thing
A in T is another team that is not played
well this year. To me, it makes sense that the
weaker teams, the teams are at the bottom of the league,

(01:09:14):
they're the ones that you make the call and see
if you can convince the kid to throw a game
or to participate in an illegal scheme.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
Okay, so you say throw a game. We Fresnel State's
records five and twenty three. They're not going to throw
a game. I mean, they'll just change the points spread.
Is that what it might be? I mean, I have
no clue what they would do. I mean, say, I'm
the leading scorer on Fresne State. I'm averaging twenty points
a game. The team is five and twenty three. They're
playing God comes over to me, So I'm going to
give you the amount of dollars. I don't want you
to score anything, just keep on passing the ball, whatever

(01:09:42):
it may be. Because of the points spread. In other words,
Fresnel State's playing San Diego.

Speaker 4 (01:09:47):
Whatever it may be.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
And if that San Diego is favored by twenty two points,
so in other words, they're looking at the spread. So
they would cover that spread or not cover the spread?
Is that it according to the leading scorer that there's
not many.

Speaker 3 (01:09:59):
People, mean they geting go anyway.

Speaker 5 (01:10:00):
I can't see him profess it on the gambling Expert,
but I can just I would assume that you get
in contact with somebody or someone on his own volition
is looking around, and I have a debt to pay.
What is the easiest thing for me to control? Well,
I can control how much I score in terms of attempts.
I can control how I shoot at bad shots, turnovers,

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things that look innocuous.

Speaker 4 (01:10:24):
I can control some of those things.

Speaker 5 (01:10:27):
Whereas on a good team and those things I may
not have as much control because I'm surrounded by better players,
I may I have the impact on those things. But look,
it happens in all horns. We've seen NBA players get
caught up in this. I mean, there's a lot of
conversation about this of late, you know, and I think
it's going to continue to be a part of our

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daily conversations as the link between professional sports, college sports,
and gambling as they continue to be tied together.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
You Know, it's funny because I think you have to
have will power. I still believe that there's something, maybe it's,
like you said, a competitive gene inside you that wants
to do this, Because if a player on the college
level is making big time, nil money, why would you
want to jeopardize that with a gambler Unless you're not
making big money at a school like Fresno State.

Speaker 3 (01:11:17):
Maybe they're not giving the NIL money there.

Speaker 4 (01:11:18):
I don't know where everybody's not making big time money.

Speaker 5 (01:11:22):
We assume just because NIL is there, that everyone is
operating on a level playing field, but that's not true.
What they make at Ohio State is certainly different than
what you make at NCA and T and so we
can't assume that everyone is making significant sums. And the
challenges that people have are their own individual challenges.

Speaker 4 (01:11:40):
And what we don't know is what impacted these players.

Speaker 5 (01:11:44):
That led them to go down that path. But something
sparked it. It wasn't you know.

Speaker 4 (01:11:49):
Like I can talk about the competitive nature whatever.

Speaker 5 (01:11:51):
Normally these decisions are made out of desperation, and I'm
sure there's something that led to the desperation that made
them make the choices that they make, and then they
got to do with these consequences.

Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
Last November, federal authorities launched an investigation at the former
Temple University men's basketball player I Sea Miller following irregular
betting activity, and US Integrity received alerts. I never heard
of US Integrity, but I guess it's an operation or organization.
They got some resulves, some alerts regarding a regular line
movement and suspicious betting ahead of a game against the

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University of Alabama at Birmingham. This is back in March
of twenty twenty four. Now you mentioned North Carolina A
and T. The men's basketball programs at Eastern Michigan, Mississippi
Valley State and North Carolina A and T are also
facing scrutiny due to an alleged series of bets placed
by the same accounts involved in the illegal gambling scheme

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tied to the former NBA players you mentioned John tay Porter.
Here's my question though, and I'm not a gambler, so
I don't know. Are the women's games WNBA as well
as college women are there they have lines on their
game too to bet on.

Speaker 3 (01:13:01):
Because I don't see any women's programs being scrutinized.

Speaker 5 (01:13:07):
Yeah, I don't know because I don't really consult the lines.
Don't do I go into sports books. I'm forbidden from
one into sports books due to my relationship with the
National Football League. So I don't know as much about
the gambler thing. I only know about the peripheral whatever
I read and whatever I've seen about the stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:13:23):
Hum does this Patty or executive for due. Do you know,
because you look like a gambler.

Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
Do you know, Patty, is there are there lines on
the college women's games in basketball? He's probably making a
bed right now.

Speaker 4 (01:13:38):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
And I got four New Orleans men's basketball players who
have been suspended since late January. They're under investigation right
now for possible NCAA violations related to sports gambling.

Speaker 3 (01:13:49):
This is according to multiple reports University of New Orleans.
So it's out there.

Speaker 2 (01:13:54):
I'm not surprised, and really and truly, I'm glad you
kind of cleared that up with me because now I'm
not going to be that concerned watching the NCAA Martchman
this tournament because these big time, good teams, they're not
going to touch those kids.

Speaker 3 (01:14:09):
They're making good nil money. They're not going to jeopardize that. However,
I mean the sixteenth seed playing the number one, or
the fifteenth playing number one and number two.

Speaker 5 (01:14:19):
No, I don't think those teams will be I don't
think those teams will be impacted.

Speaker 4 (01:14:23):
I think you're talking about teams that are on the outs.

Speaker 5 (01:14:25):
Those teams that are in the tournament, they have stuff
to play for the teams that.

Speaker 4 (01:14:29):
Are really going to be impacted.

Speaker 5 (01:14:30):
Are the bottom wrong teams, the teams that don't have
anything where it doesn't matter. You have too many people
that have too many things at stake in the tournament
to say, oh, now we're in the tournament, let's throw
the game.

Speaker 4 (01:14:41):
I don't That's not where to be. It will always
be the bottom feeders.

Speaker 5 (01:14:45):
It is rare that you find a scandal with someone
that is at the top of the food chain, a
team that is competing for or at the championship level,
that all of a sudden has a point shaving scandal
or someone involved in that. Normally, if you go back
and look through history, are the teams that at the bottom,
the teams that are the preno losers.

Speaker 3 (01:15:03):
Yeah, I'm glad you cleared that up. I didn't know.

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
I'm not a gameless I didn't know, and i didn't
even know. I'm gonna check to see if there are
lines on the women college games in basketball. But he's
Bucky Brooks and Andy Ferman. To be sure to check
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Speaker 3 (01:15:30):
And on YouTube. There we go, but it's time yay
or nay.

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
He's freaking next, all right, Stevie won the yay or
names coming right up.

Speaker 3 (01:15:39):
It's about even the minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
Before at the top of the hour, this is Fox
Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. He is Bucky Brooks
and Andy Ferman, who alive from the Ti rock dot
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mister Pat Pat.

Speaker 3 (01:15:55):
It's your baby, yay or Nay take it. Okay, let's
figure out those brain gentlemen.

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
These stories needed us.

Speaker 3 (01:16:03):
I think we need a ruling on this.

Speaker 1 (01:16:04):
Yay nay.

Speaker 7 (01:16:07):
That's all right, Andy and Buggy, it is time to
play yay ornee this Sunday. Hey, what's up everybody? I
got a couple for you. So I'm gonna start off.

Speaker 8 (01:16:17):
With this one.

Speaker 3 (01:16:17):
Here.

Speaker 7 (01:16:18):
Here's where we're gonna go, guys. So Tampa Bay Buccaneers
are reinstating Super Bowl winning former head coach John Gruden
into the team's Ring of honor.

Speaker 8 (01:16:28):
Andy. He hit the first yay Ornee.

Speaker 2 (01:16:32):
Well, first off, I'm gonna say yay because he deserves
it as a super Bowl when he coached number one,
number two. I don't know why President Trump didn't go
for him. He wants Pete Roseley and stated, but why
not the coach John Gruden of Tampa Bay.

Speaker 3 (01:16:45):
I don't get it. But maybe he's not as big.
I just don't know. But I think it's good.

Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
You set a record, you've done something well, you deserve it.
The worst thing was he was in and they threw
him out, So I say yay.

Speaker 4 (01:16:58):
Uh yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:16:59):
I think this is influenced certainly by the President and
some of the policies that are coming down all over
the place.

Speaker 4 (01:17:05):
I think they felt more.

Speaker 5 (01:17:06):
Comfortable bringing John Gruden back in this climate, and so look,
you probably never should have been taken out, because I
don't understand how you can put someone in and remove them.

Speaker 4 (01:17:14):
Once he's in. He's in, and they should have supported him.

Speaker 8 (01:17:17):
Good batter and different, all right, sweet, good batter and different.

Speaker 7 (01:17:20):
It seems like they're gonna put them back into their
traditional ring of honorable. Speaking of tradition, guys, we have
another New York Yankees tradition falling by the wayside, Yankees
will not play Frank Sinatra's New York, New York over
stadium loudspeakers after a loss. Bucky, you get the first
one on this yay or nay.

Speaker 5 (01:17:42):
Look, I'm gonna say this is it's a yay for me,
because you should have a song that celebrates when you win.

Speaker 4 (01:17:49):
You shouldn't have the song that you just do all
the time.

Speaker 5 (01:17:52):
But I understand that there are people that stand up
and sing the Alma mater win or lose.

Speaker 4 (01:17:57):
To me, I like to.

Speaker 5 (01:17:57):
Celebrate when we win. I don't want to have a
celebratory song when we lose it.

Speaker 4 (01:18:02):
So I'm okay with this.

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
You know, I'm gonna go with you. This is the
stupidest thing I've ever heard of. Why would you play
the song after a loss? Really, you should play taps.
They should play taps after a loss. That's what they
should do.

Speaker 3 (01:18:14):
But the Yankees did say they will still play New
York New York after wins as usual, but they're gonna
rotate through a couple of other songs after.

Speaker 2 (01:18:22):
A Look, I don't think they should have any music
after a loss. Right, Buck, you lose the game, go home,
I play taps.

Speaker 4 (01:18:28):
That's I mean, there has to be there has to
be some tradition.

Speaker 5 (01:18:31):
I'm okay with that stuff, but it it look, I
don't think they need to play the same song New York,
New York when they're losing, right.

Speaker 7 (01:18:40):
All right, Well that since you know I agree with that. Well,
you know what, we still got another thing have kind
of been a little more traditional.

Speaker 8 (01:18:47):
Uh just the thought here, guys. It's college basketball.

Speaker 7 (01:18:50):
So basketball coaches have gone to wearing these like track
sweatsuits on the sidelines, as we've kind of seen, but like,
you know, instead of dude, except for well perhaps Rick Patino,
so yeay or nay?

Speaker 8 (01:19:04):
Andy you get the final say, Well.

Speaker 3 (01:19:06):
I'll say this.

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
I saw Rip Patino yesterday in that game against Seaton Hale.

Speaker 3 (01:19:09):
He's wearing a white suit. It was unbelievable, phenomenal.

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
I think, Yeah, I think there's suddenly be said about
a coach showing some respect doing that. But you know,
I've heard I've heard stories I'd say, yay, uh because
now wearing a sweatsuit. I've read stories that say some
of these coaches nothing more than gym teachers. No they're not.
They're more than that. They change kids' lives. I'd like
to see them go back to this suit like Jay
Wright did.

Speaker 3 (01:19:32):
I really would.

Speaker 5 (01:19:34):
Yeah, No, I'm good. I don't think you need to
be a suit to be a good coach. I understand it,
like we're playing on the basketball court.

Speaker 4 (01:19:39):
I think if your.

Speaker 5 (01:19:40):
Classy business casual, you have a quarter zip or whatever,
like even if you want to wear your tracksuits, as
long as it's like neat and clean and pressed, I'm
okay with it.

Speaker 4 (01:19:49):
I don't think you need to be wearing a suit
to be on the sideline. I've always had I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
With, you know, way to school logo with a zip
up thing like like that. But I kind of liked it.
It was it was a nice move. It was a
class move when they did. And Patino says, look right now,
he's hidding shoulders above the rest of the coaches because
he does wear that. Now, maybe he's old school, I
don't know, but he's Bucky Brooks and Andy Furman. But
take a look, take a look who's fueling nil that
and more? Where a Fox Sports sunny coming up right

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Speaker 3 (01:20:25):
Ready and he's Bucky Brooks and Andy Furman.

Speaker 2 (01:20:26):
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number three. We're rocking and rolling, and believe it or not,
next week at this time we'll have the clock spring forward,
spring ahead right.

Speaker 3 (01:20:55):
It's unbelievable moving the clock or Andy spring is here.
March Man is bring his ear.

Speaker 4 (01:21:00):
Oh so daylight saving time already? Huh yeah this week
next week.

Speaker 2 (01:21:05):
I did some checking, which I don't normally do, but
I did it during our little break right now, and
I checked to c you can bet, not that I'm
going to, but you can bet on women's college basketball games.
It's said on the website Fan Duel Sports Book will
take women's college basketball games. You could bet on them,
and you could bet on the WNBA. I guess if

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there's an event out there, you could bet on it.
You could probably bet on corn hole, swimming, track and field.

Speaker 3 (01:21:33):
Wherever it is.

Speaker 2 (01:21:34):
If there's competition, you could probably bet on bullfighting.

Speaker 3 (01:21:37):
I bet you could bet on bullfighting. Is that correct?

Speaker 4 (01:21:39):
I bet you can, probably, so I wouldn't put it
past this. Yeah, you probably. You probably can't bet on that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:47):
You probably can. And that's what they're doing. And we
talked about gambling. Okay, now kind of a tie in,
so to speak. Let's talk about NIL, which is name,
image and likeness. Now, I would ask you, and a
little continuation from Yayo and A name image likeness, is
it good for college sports?

Speaker 3 (01:22:05):
What do you think, Yayo and A.

Speaker 5 (01:22:08):
I think name image and likeness is good for college sports,
But what it has turned into is pay for play.
I don't know if that is necessarily good for college
sports in terms of just paying players to come around
and turn into college programs into minor league professional teams.
I understand everyone should benefit from their participation in those things,
but it still has an ekey feel to it because

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it doesn't have the academic component. And maybe I'm just
an old school guy that still talks about the student
athlete and those things, but it just feels weird.

Speaker 3 (01:22:41):
Well, it is athletes students these days. It's not student athlete.

Speaker 1 (01:22:44):
You know that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:44):
But if you could repair nil, how would you do it?
I would to be a salary cap. I'm thinking of
that because it basically isn't fair, There's no doubt in
my mind. And I say that because I'm in an
area where the University of Cincinnati is in the Big twelve,
and I think it's gonna be very difficult for that
to compete in that Big twelve, the least in basketball.
Forget about football, because there's a three Major league teams

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in the CINCINNTI market and Major League Soccer. There's professional
football and Major League Baseball, and there's two other Division One.

Speaker 3 (01:23:14):
Teams in the area.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
There's av University in the Big East and in the
Horizon Conference. Across the river, the Ohio River, there's Northern
Kentucky University.

Speaker 3 (01:23:22):
And what do I mean by that?

Speaker 2 (01:23:24):
There's a lot of competition for the entertainment dollar and
there's a lot of alums split and in other words,
if you want to get an athlete, you need an
alum to open up the checkbook and pay for it,
as opposed to in Lawrence, Kansas, or Stillwater, Oklahoma, or
whatever it may be, where you are the only show
in town and everybody roots for the college team and
all the alums are ready to open up their checkbook

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and pay for these athletes.

Speaker 3 (01:23:47):
It's very difficult. It's not really fair.

Speaker 5 (01:23:51):
No, it's not really fair. But what's happening. You have
two things that are going on at the same time.
You have nil, which is name, image and likeness where
you benefit off of you using your jerseys and those
things to create opportunity streams for you. And then there's
revenue sharing, which is what you're talking about, to create
a salary cap where the conferences have to equally split
the money and you kind of everyone has the same

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amount of dollars that they're dealing with. That is where
the salary cap and the implementation of those things come
into play. It'll be the interesting to see how that
levels the playing feel a little bit, because we're already
seeing that kind of happen right The SMUs and the
Indianas and some of those schools that have been able
to jump into the playoff are teams that normally wouldn't

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have that opportunity.

Speaker 4 (01:24:38):
We've seen Texas Tech jump into transfer.

Speaker 5 (01:24:40):
Portal and maybe use some of the allure of money
to be able to create a team that can compete
in punch above its weight normally. We'll see how this
plays out, but it will make it a very interesting deal.
And as the look the college football landscape becomes more
like pro football, we will see some parody. We will
see see a little more of the NFL field to

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games where the talent is spread I won't say necessarily
evenly throughout, but it will be spread out more than
it's been spread out before.

Speaker 2 (01:25:10):
Okay, remember that guy woa to Wochanowski Houston wrote for
ESPN coming college Basketball and b he left. He left
up you other penning my three four million dollars a
year to be the general manager of the basketball program
at his alma Mada, Saint Bonaventure University. So it's an
article the other day in the New York Times that
to raise money he's selling like he's press passes that

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he had and watches whoever it may be an he
doda that he had. He's selling to raise money to
get athletes to come to Saint Bonaventure. God bless him.
I don't see Saint Bonaventure University competing with the likes
of Michigan you know, Ohio State and basketball even Indiana.

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You name the school, Michigan State. I just don't see
they can. How can they? Well, if athletes want to
get big time money, it just can't happen. The fact
that he left good for him. He loves his alma mater,
and maybe he was tired of trying to break stories
working twenty four to seven around the clock.

Speaker 3 (01:26:10):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:10):
He has enough money he could afford to kick back
a little bit, but that's a tedious job. I don't
see how he's gonna make it at Saint Bonaventure University,
which back in the day, they were a tough team.

Speaker 3 (01:26:21):
They were good in basketball. Bob Lanier played for them,
Freddie Crawford and the NBA played for them.

Speaker 2 (01:26:27):
Did Tom stiff brothers. He and his brother play for
Saint Bonnie. That's when there was more of an even
playing field. There's no even playing field now. I understand
how they do it. How are you gonna get money
to get a kid to go to Saint Bonaventure?

Speaker 5 (01:26:40):
Well, that's different, but you're also in basketball you're talking
about I mean, the number of Division I basketball teams.
You're talking about over three hundred Like it's different than
college footballhere you talk about one hundred and twenty teams
that are competing at the highest levels. Yeah, it's not
gonna be enough money for the small teams that are
at the D one level to compete with the heavyweights.
North Carolina has had an issue because when the SEC

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went all in or making sure that they had great
basketball and they decided to pour the same resources into
basketball and baseball that they have been pouring into football,
You've seen an SEC dominance at the top of the
charts in those sports. And I hate to say that
the success is there's a direct correlation between the money
spent and the success between the lines. But we are

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seeing some of that play out there. Is it eventually
level out and we'll see more teams engaged, But now
I look, they have not, so are gonna have a
tough time competing with the haves in this current landscape.

Speaker 3 (01:27:39):
I'm surprised that hasn't been more pushback.

Speaker 2 (01:27:41):
I'm surprised the fans have not, like I say, refolded,
but really complained and saying that. And someone did a
study that there's a correlation between the money spent that
Ohio State and football helped them win a national championship. Really,
I mean, I'm shocked that no one has said anything.
But now there's a new situation.

Speaker 3 (01:27:59):
Enter the pick.

Speaker 2 (01:28:00):
The alums from the school and the NBA are writing
checks for their school, Arizona State, the Sun Devils. There's
a check written by James Harden put up one hundred
thousand dollars, they said, for a potential player. I mean,
this is ridiculous. I mean, there's got to be some
sort of a limit. There's got to be someone, there's
got to be a guardian in this thing where they're

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gonna go crazy. You know, most NBA players said they
still are more interested in traditional ways of giving donations
of year or funding for facilities. But several players, and
this is what I've written, and I've found this out
in a study, that several players have written huge checks
to build practice facilities with their names on them. I
get that among them are Carmelo Anthony did it at Syracuse,

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Kevin Durant did it at Texas, Russell Westbrook did it
at UCLA, Draymond Green did it at Michigan State. All Right,
that I could see but to spend money on a
potential high school kid to get it to come in
there and play basketball. I don't get it. But still, well,
there should be some sort of a red flag there,
don't you think this nil is really out of control?
But the college who made the connection to the NBA player,

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kudos for them. That's a great idea. So I would
do that. That's what I would do if I was
a guy woje at say, by the venture, look at
all the guys that graduated that have played in the NBA.

Speaker 3 (01:29:21):
Open up your checkbook, help us.

Speaker 4 (01:29:24):
Yeah, I mean there's gonna be some of that, and
that's common, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:29:26):
I mean, it's no different than schools going to their
big donors who've made it successfully in business and asking
them to come back and donate and chip in.

Speaker 4 (01:29:34):
But you're gonna do that for.

Speaker 5 (01:29:35):
So long because everyone's pockets are only so deep, and
I'm not gonna keep giving an annual gift time and
time again.

Speaker 4 (01:29:42):
You're gonna have to expand your reach.

Speaker 5 (01:29:44):
And that's why some of this model is not sustainable,
because you can't keep coming to people and asking them
to fund some of these things. Schools have to fund
their ambitions and it can't just be the alums that
are doing it, because as you get down the line,
depending on the amount of students that you have in
your school, the number of alums.

Speaker 4 (01:30:05):
That you have that are crushing it in business.

Speaker 5 (01:30:09):
Look, the pipeline's gonna run out, and so you have
to have a better way of being able to do this.

Speaker 2 (01:30:14):
So I asked you, Bucket Brooks, when the NIL was
basically initiated, was there a thought process saying, yeah, the
athletes can get paid. There was no limit how much
they can get paid. Number one, But did they care
where that money or the funds came from, because there's
been some problems where kids at a quarterback at the
University of Miami and Florida was promised money and never
got his money. So was there an edict saying that

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they could only get the money through the school?

Speaker 4 (01:30:38):
Like the.

Speaker 2 (01:30:40):
Donor who gives the money should give the check to
the school first, and the school gives the check or
the money to the kid, not directly from the donor.
There's got to be some guidelines. Is it donor is
it just from the school.

Speaker 3 (01:30:53):
Could it be.

Speaker 2 (01:30:53):
Alums, could it be professional players. I don't think there
was anything like that at all when this thing was formed.

Speaker 5 (01:31:00):
No, I mean, but I mean you also have a
change in time with the NC DOUBLEA and how we're
viewing the NC DOUBLEA as a governing body related to
athletic sports.

Speaker 4 (01:31:09):
It's not what it was.

Speaker 5 (01:31:10):
It's not yesterday's game, and so this is all work
in progress. And when you don't have one person at
type of commissioner or czar to kind of met out
some of the rules and regulations, you do have a
bit of the wild wild West. Because it's not only
in IL revenue sharing you got a transfer portal. You
have cases where people are transferring at any point, regardless

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of portal, and they're retaining their eligibility per some of
these cases, you have the JUCO landscape and whether they
make it all of the years or some of the
years back going to Jukou. There are a lot of
things that are going on, and right now it just
seems like everywhere around us there's a bit of chaos.
At some point, you hope that life just settles down,

(01:31:55):
that we're trible to find a middle ground, but right
now it is crazy, and college athletics are really reflect that.

Speaker 2 (01:32:03):
Yeah, in University of Arizona graduate and an NBA former
NBA champion Richard Jefferson, he said this, why would you
invest your money in something that isn't regulated? Yes, thank you, Richard,
it's not regulated. Then he says, quote, you put your
money into a pool. You could give a kid a
million dollars and the next year someone could offer him
one point one million and another.

Speaker 3 (01:32:24):
School and he could just go.

Speaker 2 (01:32:26):
If you want to invest in your school, invest in
a practice facility, invest in something that could be actually used,
if there's versus anything, just.

Speaker 3 (01:32:34):
To buy players, That to me is a waste of time.
I love that.

Speaker 2 (01:32:38):
So he know he gets it, he really does. So
what happens if he offer a kid a million dollars?
He takes it and goes to another school the next year,
He's not giving that money back, right, he was given
a million dollars to attend school X, he didn't play much, whatever,
he didn't like the coach. He's going to go back
in the portal the following year another school over to
a million point one. So he keeps that million and
he goes to another school. How does that work?

Speaker 5 (01:33:01):
I mean, right now, you can do whatever you wanna do,
like they don't have true contracts, so everyone is just
kind of out here taking the best deal and you
can't hold them accountable to anything. That's challenging. That's hard
to to to do because you don't have regulations in
those things making it where you have contracts that are

(01:33:23):
look legal and binding. If you're able to have some
binding contracts, well then you can do more stuff and
you can you can hold people's feet to it far.
I would say this because I think you express in
one of the earliest segments, you expressed wanting uh a
little old school coaching. To me, the old school coaching
is now able to flourish because when you're making an

(01:33:44):
above board transaction where everyone knows that you're getting paid,
you're getting your money. I now can coach you harder
because you're getting money, and if you wanna continue to
get money, you gonna have to listen and do what
I say. We're seeing more old school coaches have success
doing that. Rick Barnes at Tennessee we heard the quote
we talked about the kid, that's what he's paid to do.
We've heard Rick Patino talk about he has the best

(01:34:06):
team money could buy, and he took seedon Hall's best player.
He coaches hard, but he coaches hard because he can
dangle the carrot of the money.

Speaker 4 (01:34:15):
That is a game changer.

Speaker 5 (01:34:16):
And when everyone thinks that it means you have to
go softer on kids because they're transferred. No, it means
that you can actually go harder because they're getting paid
to give provide a service and they're not providing the
service to the level that you like.

Speaker 4 (01:34:29):
Well, then you have every right.

Speaker 5 (01:34:32):
To go hard at them and demand more for them
because that's what you're paying for.

Speaker 3 (01:34:36):
To become a job. Now it's an actual job.

Speaker 4 (01:34:39):
Really, it's always been a job.

Speaker 5 (01:34:43):
Yeah, yeah, it's always been a job. But now look,
we're above board. Everyone knows exactly what it is. And
now that you know, oh, I can go at you
hard because I'm going to get what I want out
of you because it's a service industry, right.

Speaker 2 (01:34:57):
And there was an NBA old star. He didn't want
to use his name in this deal, but he's given
back to a school, he says, throughout his career, but
never to nil.

Speaker 3 (01:35:04):
And there's a quote, you want me to.

Speaker 2 (01:35:06):
Pay two hundred and fifty thousand dollars just to get
a guy to cut the play for my school, and
then I have to watch and potentially average five points
a game and come off the bench. The market for
this stuff is crazy, thank you, thank you very much.
It is crazy. And you know what, I don't hear
a thing from the NCAA is powerless agreed, they really interesting.

Speaker 5 (01:35:31):
No juice, Yeah, no juice at all. There's there's nothing
that they can say or do about any of this
stuff right now.

Speaker 4 (01:35:40):
It is what it is.

Speaker 3 (01:35:41):
It's sad. It's it really is sad. But really and truly,
the conferences have more power than the nc double lety
do what they want to do. They hopscotch.

Speaker 2 (01:35:48):
You know, when I see Maryland playing back to back
schools on the West Coast because they're in the same conference,
I mean, it doesn't make any sense. Maybe I am
too old school, I don't know. But I enjoyed backyard rivalries.
I enjoyed Penn State West Virginia. I enjoyed that they
don't have it anymore. I enjoyed Big five basketball in Philadelphia.
I like rivalries. I mean, Navy's great, that's about the

(01:36:10):
only one. Ohio State, Michigan. But when you have conferences
jumping across country. I liked Oklahoma, Oklahoma State. I don't
see it anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:36:19):
It's gone.

Speaker 5 (01:36:21):
Yeah, I mean, all that stuff is gone, and it's changed,
and we'll continue to adapt and adjust to all of
it and we'll be fine when it comes down.

Speaker 4 (01:36:31):
I mean, it's just the thing.

Speaker 5 (01:36:33):
I mean, who thought that we'd ever see a time
where Texas and Oklahoma in the SEC. You know, you
talk about Cincinnati being in what they're the Big twelve. Now,
I mean this, all of it, all of it is changing,
all of it is different, but we always adapt and
we'll figure it out.

Speaker 2 (01:36:48):
You know, that's funny you just mentioned that. And I
remember back in the day when Cincinnati was in the
AA seed the American Athletic Conference, which basically was a shade,
a big shade below the Big Twelve. All of a sudden, now,
why would the Big twelve say, well, I think they're
good enough to be in our conference. I mean, is
that it? I don't I don't understand.

Speaker 3 (01:37:07):
I mean, the talent level is so different between the
Big twelve and the AAC. And I get it. Cincinnati
may never ever.

Speaker 2 (01:37:14):
Win a DAN thing in the Big twelve, but you
know what, they'll win at the bank, They'll win in
the pocketbook. The checkbook will be big, be a lot bigger.
They're sharing a lot more money TV money, not getting
a lot more exposure because they're hardly ever on TV
now except ESPN Plus, and I'm not paying for that.
But still in all, I guess the bottom line at
the end of the day, fill those coffers with money.

Speaker 3 (01:37:34):
That's what they're doing. Wins may come, if not, who cares.
We're getting a lot of money.

Speaker 5 (01:37:41):
Yeah, I mean, that's what it is, and that's what
it continued to be. Like, it's about that part of it,
and you have to be in the right conference to
get out.

Speaker 4 (01:37:50):
I had an interesting conversation.

Speaker 5 (01:37:51):
With the coach of a Big twelve team, and he
talked about, like the Big twelve is when we have
an opportunity, and we talked about how in football, like
it used to be just about winning the national title.
Now what's about getting into the playoffs? The playoff is Look,
it's pretty symbolic, much like making a Final Four is
very symbolic in basketball. Your team can equate success to

(01:38:15):
just making the playoff feel because for some teams that's
all the server gonna be.

Speaker 4 (01:38:19):
When you're in the Big twelve, you're small. You're small.

Speaker 5 (01:38:21):
Acc think about SMU, there's a major accountment. Think about Indiana, like,
there's no real expectation that Indiana is going to be
a powerhouse that Winston Natty. But if you get into
the playoff, now that's a really good season. That is
something that your school can get behind. That is where
it changes. And that's where the nil, the revenue sharing,
all of those things are gonna make it more possible

(01:38:42):
for some lightweights to at least make the playoff field.

Speaker 2 (01:38:46):
Especially to the expand Sodiana was exposed when they got
to the football playoffsy had a great regular season which
they didn't play a lot of strong teams, and they
came there.

Speaker 3 (01:38:54):
They were exposed. That got beat up pretty good in football.

Speaker 5 (01:38:57):
Yeah, I mean, but some of that is due to
the talent differential, right right, Some of it is due to,
you know, the level of talent that they had or whatever.
This year would be the litmus test for mister Signetti.
And you know he always talked about whooping tail and
beating people down.

Speaker 4 (01:39:14):
That's what he's always done.

Speaker 5 (01:39:16):
Well, we'll get a chance to see if he can't
build upon what he started last year.

Speaker 3 (01:39:20):
Got to watch what you say sometimes make come back
to haunt me. I know, but it's different over here
because I don't get a lot of heat. But I've
been known to say things that come back and on me.
It really does.

Speaker 2 (01:39:33):
But that's what you do. You take a chance. You know,
you got an opinion. You know, I got opinions on this.
I think the nil stinks. I think the guys should
get paid. Wo women don't get paid. You know, why
should a basketball player, No, really, why should a basketball
player at school A get more money than a basketball
player in school be in the same conference? Really, I
mean they're doing the same amount of work, the same conference.

(01:39:54):
But it's not fair. I just don't think it's right.
You know, do it for everybody, but do it across
the board. You know, maybe have a structure, you know,
have a budget to do something. But den CAA just
sits around and I don't know what they're doing. They
really don't. They really don't. Bucky brooks Andy Ferva right
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because this guy's a superstars so he deserves to get it.

Speaker 3 (01:41:21):
To set the stage for a second.

Speaker 2 (01:41:22):
And we'll talk about Lebron James, And obviously Lebron James
was asked about eventually passing the torch of being the
face of the NBA. I think we have to agree
he probably is the face of the of the NBA.
Maybe Steph Curry is I don't know who do you
think the face of the NBA is right now?

Speaker 3 (01:41:39):
Is it Lebron Ron? Lebron is still the face because
he's been there for so long. I guess that's why.

Speaker 2 (01:41:46):
But he says, and this is what he said the
other day, he knows that the crown of being the
face of the NBA is not really wanted, and he
knows one of the reasons why nobody wants to be
the face of the NBA. The ant man, Anthony Edwards.
They say he may be the potential next face of
the league. But at the All Star weekend he said,

(01:42:07):
I think Victor went Biyanna from San Antonio maybe the
next face. But James said that he didn't take offense
at the opinion of the ant man because he understands
why nobody wants to be the face of the NBA.
He says, because the media is out there to attack
the players, they dump on him, they use whatever word

(01:42:28):
he said to cover the team. They're negative. I don't
think so, you know, I look at the NBA. I
don't cover the NBA. I did some work for an
NBA team back in the day, and I found that
the NBA reporter is on a nightly basis somewhat congenial.
Maybe they change to be a little more aggressive right now,
but I think basically, by and large, they're somewhat easy,

(01:42:52):
and they're easy for fear of being taken away their
access getting into the locker room. I think that's why
they're easy. I don't see negativity in the NBA. I
think he's pointing fingers at the NBA show with Shack.
I think maybe that's what he's talking about with Charles Barkley.

Speaker 3 (01:43:09):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:43:10):
Do you believe that the NBA coverage, according to Lebron James,
is quite negative and that's why he shouldn't want to
be the face of the NBA.

Speaker 4 (01:43:19):
I agree with him. I think all of it is negative.

Speaker 5 (01:43:22):
I think we spend most of our time always picking
out the bad and things as opposed to celebrating the
positives As a player. Now, I think it's harder now
than it's ever been to be a player because you
have so many outside opinions, so many critiques.

Speaker 4 (01:43:35):
Everybody's an expert.

Speaker 5 (01:43:36):
You never can get away from it because social media
has allowed people to have opinions that are voice to
the masses without qualification. Yeah, so why would you want
to be the face of the league when all they
do is tear you down and poke out all your
flaws and those things as opposed to.

Speaker 4 (01:43:52):
Build you up.

Speaker 5 (01:43:53):
What happened there was a seismic shift in media coverage
when Lebron rolls to prominence. And I will say this,
Skipped Bayless and others made a lot of money, may
gained a lot of popularity by always taking shots at Lebron.

Speaker 4 (01:44:12):
Like remember, there was a time where.

Speaker 5 (01:44:16):
The relationship between media member and player was always respectful.
You could criticize the player, but it was never personal
when it came to calling a player a scrub, calling
Lebron the frozen one not the chosen one, and all
of these little barbs and innuendows that have been levied
at players from people who didn't play. That changed, and

(01:44:39):
so that changed the tenor. That changed the relationship, and
it became more acrimonious between players and media.

Speaker 4 (01:44:45):
Members because of that. And as we.

Speaker 5 (01:44:47):
Continued to go, everyone on our side, the media side,
we're all looking for attention, and how do I get
attention by having a contrarian take that is loud, that
is outlanded, that takes it to another level to get attention. Yeah,
So as a player, why would I want that? Why
would I want to be the face of the league
and subject to that every day? There's nothing that comes

(01:45:09):
out of being the face of the league in a
positive way. So yeah, I wouldn't want that. So I
understand why Anthony Erwards wouldn't want that.

Speaker 2 (01:45:17):
You know, I hear what you're saying, and you kind
of hit a nerve with me because when you mentioned
Skip Bayless, I mean when I hear about people covering
the league, I'm thinking of beat reporters that travel with teams.
I can't tell you, and I don't know this, I
guarantee you Skip Bayless has not been in an NBA
locker room post game in years. You know, he's a

(01:45:38):
guy that sits at the table and criticize.

Speaker 3 (01:45:40):
I get that.

Speaker 2 (01:45:41):
So I think there's a fine difference between the actual
people that cover the league and guys that talk about
it that don't really cover it on a daily basis.
But I guess at the end of the day, Lebron
hears it all. Although some of these athletes say they
don't listen or hear about it, I guess he does.
But he's got a forum, he's got Twitter. He makes
a lot of comments about that, so you know, whatever
they say, he could bounce back and say what he

(01:46:02):
wants to say about these guys.

Speaker 5 (01:46:04):
He has a time see see that's true.

Speaker 4 (01:46:08):
But it's also false.

Speaker 5 (01:46:09):
Right, He certainly can say it, but then it comes
with like, oh, you've been a bully from the pulpit,
so let's talk about our colleague. And I love our colleague,
Doug Gottlieb. Right, Doug has taken some shots at Lebron
and made it kind of personal at times when he's
talked about Bronnie his son.

Speaker 4 (01:46:25):
But when Lebron.

Speaker 5 (01:46:27):
Mocked and joked Doug about the record and the struggles
that he's having at UW. Green Bay, he came back like, well,
why is he taking the time to bully.

Speaker 4 (01:46:36):
Gottle like, Nah, you can't have it both ways.

Speaker 5 (01:46:39):
If you want to engage in this fodder and you
want to make it personal, then you have to be
able to take it back. And there's so many other
people who are kind of reckless with their words and
are not held accountable to their words. They have to
do it now. I faced it, right, I've faced it
where I've walked into the locker rooms in Seattle where
Earl Thomas has challenged me based on something that he

(01:47:00):
felt like slighted him.

Speaker 4 (01:47:02):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:47:03):
And so like, if you don't have to face those guys, yes,
if you have to face the people that you talk about, well, yeah,
that changes the way that you handle some of these
conversations on air, because now you may have to see
those guys and explain yourself. But yeah, if you're just
lobbing these bombs and you never have to go face them, yeah,
you can get bold and say outland his stuff and

(01:47:24):
see it with an edge that is not necessarily suitable.

Speaker 4 (01:47:28):
And yeah, I understand why players get fired up about that.

Speaker 3 (01:47:31):
You know, you hit the target.

Speaker 2 (01:47:33):
I mean, you betabules, You're right, You're exactly Skip Bayless
would say whatever he wants about Lebron and basically you
could tell he hated Lebron James. Okay, And I think
that's number one. You got to face the music. You
want to say something about somebody, go see him. Okay,
that's number one. Number two, I think there's gotta be
I'm not saying this rule, but I think a personal
rule for yourself. Keep it within the lines of the

(01:47:55):
field or the court. I mean talk about family. Then why.

Speaker 3 (01:47:59):
I don't think there's any place to talk about family,
anybody's family whatsoever. I had a problem years back.

Speaker 2 (01:48:06):
I did a postgame radio show after the Cincidi Reds
baseball games, and I would comment on Rob Dibble and
some of those guys. But I made it a point
to get to the locker room the next day. I
always did. And the late Tom Browning, I love Tom Brownie.
He passed away several years ago. He wrote a book
and he put me in his book saying that no
matter what I had said, and I could be tough
at times, I would show up in the locker room

(01:48:28):
the next day. You got to you lose all credibility.
You gotta go and show your face. And most of
these guys don't. But I'm talking about the average guy
who covers the NBA on a daily basis and travels
with the team to beat reporters. I think they're somewhat fair,
and they're fair to the extent that they almost formed
these guys because they're afraid they're gonna lose their access,

(01:48:49):
they'll have their press pass taken away from them. But
you're right, the talk guys, the guys got behind the
microphone talk radio guys in non NBA cities. They'll drew
these guys for the sake of getting ratings and people
to call them up and getting clicks. That's what they do.
And I'm with Lebron, but that hasn't changed. That's been
like that all the time.

Speaker 3 (01:49:06):
How many people back up, they called Mickey Meddler bum
how many guys cole athletes who don't play that they're
jacking And really it doesn't change, except now there's a
bigger platform than ever before.

Speaker 5 (01:49:18):
Oh that's true. I mean, there certainly is a bigger platform.
They're more voices. Twitter magnifies everything because it can blow
everything up, you know, make it much bigger than it
once appeared. And you have to be able to deal
with that and I'm not saying that people should not
be able to criticize players.

Speaker 4 (01:49:34):
I'm not saying that. I'm saying that people.

Speaker 5 (01:49:36):
Just have to be careful with their words because those
words matter, and how you critique a player matters. You
can critique the game, you can talk about like they
have to improve in this area. This is what I see, YadA, YadA, YadA.
But it's the extra stuff, the syrup that people put
on the pancake that kind of drives.

Speaker 3 (01:49:53):
Oh, I hear right now. With the trade they say,
they say, do just was you know, get it, give
up the beer.

Speaker 2 (01:50:00):
I mean, come on, really, I don't think there's any
place but the guy likes his beer. So what all right,
He's not playing on a basketball game after drinking three beers,
I promise you that.

Speaker 3 (01:50:10):
And I never met that.

Speaker 4 (01:50:11):
Yeah, and like even the thing would would would Luca
like that?

Speaker 5 (01:50:14):
To me, that's that's not like like what that was
coming out of Dallas or whatever, like them talking about
conditioning and all of that stuff. Like I'm fine with that.
I'm just saying it's the personal stuff. When people call
people scrubs, when people say they suck, they're soft, they're
they're bust like, you just have to be careful with
how you do those things because, look, we sensationalize it

(01:50:35):
because it does grab headlines and attention. However, to that
person that is the subject of the criticism, man, they're
not able to separate that and determine whatever. I've had
conversations with guys like in the league who've been like, hey, man, look,
some of this is unfortunately you are part of a

(01:50:56):
soap opera that features real characters. Some of what we do,
you and the media business and TV is our job
is to entertain the viewers, the watchers, and sometimes we
have to put a little extra on it playing TV.
But just know, when I'm playing TV, this stuff is
never personal.

Speaker 4 (01:51:13):
But some of it is.

Speaker 5 (01:51:14):
You have to take it up another notch to kind
of make it entertaining. But you have to be careful
about the theater being too personal. And there's a line
that you can cross, and when you cross those lines,
you then have to go see those players.

Speaker 2 (01:51:29):
Right now, as a former athlete, why don't even use
the word for me. You're an athlete, you play in
the NFL.

Speaker 3 (01:51:34):
Does it mean more from a person who played the
game to criticize than some schmuck like me who never
played the game. For example, you got that show inside
the NBA, and you got Kenny the Jet who played
the game. You got Shock he played the game.

Speaker 2 (01:51:49):
If they're criticizing, I think it means more there's a
little more credibility to the players.

Speaker 3 (01:51:54):
Are they able to swallow that.

Speaker 2 (01:51:55):
Criticism better than if a guy like me comes on
there and say, what the hell's he doing? Got lost
on the crossover? Something like that.

Speaker 5 (01:52:05):
I would say that that players generally can respect opinions
if they feel like those opinions are researched, well thought out,
and delivered with the appropriate touch. What they can't stomach
is when they feel like it's outlandish and the person
that is making the critique doesn't have the facts. But
I'll say this because I put this on some of

(01:52:26):
the players, some of today's generation, they don't want to
hear the negative. They've always been given the positive. They've
never had to deal with the negative coming up. They
may have been caught up by their coaches and people,
and so they don't have a realistic view on what
harsh criticism is is versus what constructive criticism is. And
anything that you say negative comes off as.

Speaker 4 (01:52:47):
Oh, well, you just being a hater. No, I'm not hating.

Speaker 5 (01:52:50):
I'm just saying, when I look at your game, here
are some weak spots that I need to tell the
public when they're watching the game. That's my job to
provide an elysis. So guys have to be a little tougher.
But I'm saying from our side, the media side, we
just need to make sure we try not to make
these things personal as opposed to professional.

Speaker 3 (01:53:10):
Well, I never made it personal, but I did have
a running with Ken Griffy Jr.

Speaker 2 (01:53:13):
At one point in time. There was a game and
he didn't play for some reason. He left in the
middle of the game, whatever it might be, and I
went nuts on the radio and I said, what's he doing.
He's sitting down and apparently I went back to the
locker room the next day and we sat down and
he was a little upset with me, but he told
me he was six. Something happen And I went on
the radio that next day and I said, I was
down in the locker.

Speaker 3 (01:53:32):
Room, saw Ken Griffy Jr. Before the game.

Speaker 2 (01:53:34):
He told me exactly what happened. He hurt himself, whatever
it was. He had a twinge. I mean it's an
ac I don't know what it was, but he hurt
himself and it worked out. Because if you show up,
that's the key. You gotta show up because it shows respect.
It shows respect. I'll say something maybe outlandish, maybe wrong,
but if you show up, you could clear it up
and it goes away.

Speaker 3 (01:53:55):
And that's basically what I did. I think a lot
of guys tell you just can't throw stuff out there
and expect not to get some feedback and sometimes negative feedback.

Speaker 4 (01:54:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:54:06):
Like, and that's the thing you're gonna be that you
have to show up and just do the thing. Everyone
can take it. But if you show up in the
locker room, good batter indifferent and if you're willing to
engage in the conversation, you say, hey, I saw what
you've written.

Speaker 4 (01:54:18):
Why'd you feel that way?

Speaker 5 (01:54:20):
But you can't you can't shrink in that moment when
challenged by a player on a critique that you offered
on set. Player, you have to be willing to stand
in the fire and deal with that.

Speaker 2 (01:54:29):
Sometimes you got to eat a bowl, if you know what.
Sometimes you got to there you go.

Speaker 4 (01:54:34):
Oh, Sometimes you just got to stand your ground.

Speaker 2 (01:54:36):
I agree I agree, that's the way it is, and Lebron,
you know I agree to some extent. But again, you know,
it comes with the territory. Sorry, that's just basically what
it is, comes to the territory.

Speaker 3 (01:54:48):
We move on.

Speaker 2 (01:54:49):
He's Bucky Brooks Ay Firm, and we are Fox Sports
Sunday on Fox. But read you know it's never your fault?
Is it the playing game? Hey, it's freaking next, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:54:59):
The playing game? Right around the band. About eleven minutes
time before the top of the hour, I want.

Speaker 2 (01:55:02):
To thank our great staff, Patty, our executive director, Magic
Mark Ramsey. I'll tell you why running the controls. Oh,
my great partner, my great party is the best. He
really is, Bucky Brooks know him better than that. And
by the way, top of the hour, nine o'clock Easton,
Brian O, Jeff Schwartz and Bill Krakenberger will give you
the best previewing all the games today.

Speaker 3 (01:55:22):
But right now it's time. But before we do that,
before we gotta tell your life from the Tirack dot
com studios. But right now it's time for the blame game.
You with me. It's all your fault, No, it's your fault.

Speaker 1 (01:55:35):
What is all your fault.

Speaker 3 (01:55:39):
Maybe it's everyone's faults.

Speaker 1 (01:55:42):
He's a liar. That's why there's the blame game, the
blame game.

Speaker 3 (01:55:45):
Let's figure out who to blame. He's a liar. I
know he's not. He's a patty. It's all yours, baby.

Speaker 7 (01:55:51):
I am not a liar, Guys, I speak nothing but
the truth here. But you know what, let's blame some
people here for this. So let's start us off here.
The of Texas will be raising football season ticket prices
by thirteen dollars per game next season, trying to meet
a rising costs. The program is one of the richest
in the nation. Not, who do you blame? Andy, You

(01:56:15):
get to go first.

Speaker 2 (01:56:16):
You know what, this really stinks. You know, there's a
myriad of people you can blame. You cold, Blame the
athletic department because they want to have raised money for scholarships.
Blame the nilgus they want to play these players. You
know what stinks. Buddy of mine call me just the
other day and he said he was going to a
minor league baseball game in Arizona to see the Giants play.

Speaker 3 (01:56:32):
Sixty seven bucks for a minor league baseball game right
spring training game and our sixty seven dollars for one ticket.
Give me a break, give me a thirteen dollars a game.

Speaker 2 (01:56:43):
They didn't tell me how much the tickets are gonna
cost off of Texas just screwing the fans. The average
fan has no choice. But I'm blaming the athletic department.
You gotta hold the costs down. You gotta hold them down.

Speaker 3 (01:56:54):
Please. I blame you, Texas. I blame you.

Speaker 4 (01:57:00):
I mean, look, it's the cost of doing business. This
is what you have to do. Every year.

Speaker 5 (01:57:04):
Ticket prices raise up cost of living, inflation.

Speaker 4 (01:57:08):
It's part of it. Like twelve dollars, thirteen dollars, Like
you gotta suck it up. You don't have to go
to the game, but if you want to go to
the game, you gotta pack.

Speaker 8 (01:57:15):
All right, all right, well I'm with that. I'm with that. Guys. Well,
we're gonna move on to a different one here.

Speaker 7 (01:57:21):
It's actually something we've kind of talked about a little
bit earlier today.

Speaker 8 (01:57:24):
The toush push maybe a thing in the past. Who
do you blame, Bucky.

Speaker 5 (01:57:30):
Oh, the cry babies, the guys that can't stop it,
who are always whining and moaning because they found a
play that they're having a tough time defending, so what
they want to do.

Speaker 4 (01:57:38):
Is legislate it out.

Speaker 5 (01:57:39):
At some point, you got you gotta buck up. You
gotta figure out a way to stop it, like the
league shouldn't build these coaches and players out find a
way to stop it. Everyone else can run it. Either
run it like them or find a way to eliminate it.

Speaker 2 (01:57:52):
I hate agreeing with Bucky Brooks. I love it the
death but some rest trump. Yes, but I do agree.
You know you can't stop. But see you're gonna whine
and cry, so you're gonna try to get rid of it.

Speaker 3 (01:58:02):
You know what, do it? You know what, Draft those.

Speaker 2 (01:58:05):
Big monsters on the offensive line, then you'll be able
to do it. Okay, you can't stop it, so you
want the Philadelphia Eagles to stop it? I mean, come on,
it doesn't work that way. It's your fault. You're a fault.
You can't stop losing. Coaches are getting it done.

Speaker 3 (01:58:18):
It's there full well.

Speaker 7 (01:58:19):
Speaking of who what may or may be their fault here, Miami,
you quarterback Cam Moore didn't throw at the combine this year?

Speaker 8 (01:58:29):
Who do you blame? Andy?

Speaker 2 (01:58:30):
Probably his agent. His agent probably said you know what
be a good move for you?

Speaker 3 (01:58:34):
Not to throw? You can only hurt yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:58:35):
You're probably gonna be theirs, not the first, probably the
second player picked in the draft this year. You know
there's only two decent quarterbacks coming out this year, So
why damage yourself? Go there, answer the questions, answer the
psychological questions, but don't throw, you know, save it for
those pro days on campus.

Speaker 3 (01:58:52):
Well even you.

Speaker 2 (01:58:53):
Would look good, Patty, you would look good on a
pro day, which is agent's.

Speaker 4 (01:59:00):
A change in time.

Speaker 5 (01:59:01):
Look, all of these scalts can't figure out who can
and who can't play. I want to have these extra workouts.
Look the guy played for four or five years in college.
If you can't determine if you can throw an out,
that's on you. I don't know why some of these
guys are working out anyway. There's more enough tape. The
risk is all on them. If they get hurt doing
a workout, it's all over. So yeah, I've done enough.
I'm sitting on the side. I think it's the scouts

(01:59:21):
fault that has happened.

Speaker 7 (01:59:23):
All right, Well find a one for the day, guys.
The Northwestern women's basketball teams January games at UCLA and
USC will not be rescheduled. The January twelve and fifteenth
games were originally postponed because of the wildfires that we're raging,
you know, around here out in LA. The Wildcats announced
they will not travel to LA for the games January tenth.

(01:59:44):
Per conference rules, forfeitures will be assessed to Northwestern, resulting
in two losses. Who do you blame, Bucky.

Speaker 5 (01:59:53):
Man, I've blamed the Big Ten for lack of empathy.
The fires that are fires. You can kindaize Northwestern for
not one out there. It's costly, you.

Speaker 3 (02:00:02):
Know, this is common sense. I'm agreeing with you again.
I'm on your back, I really am.

Speaker 2 (02:00:07):
How could the conference forfeit these games simply because there
was fires?

Speaker 3 (02:00:12):
I mean, it's just crazy. You wanted to guard that
did the fires? Oh,

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