Alex Curry & Carmen Vitali Talk Quarterback Carousel, Micah vs. Lawrence Beef & More!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Welcome to Fox Sports Saturday. I'm Alex Curry here with
Carmen Vitale. Thank you for spending your Saturday afternoon with
KARMEI and me. We are twenty four hours away from
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A though conference.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Dude, they have been all time, even like high school
his I've been watching some epic like high school state
championship games right now.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
I We'll get to that later.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
There was like one of the best buzzer beater, seventy
footer shot that I saw yesterday in Nebraska.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
I can't say that I'm up on I just.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah, no, it's just the shot was insane. Okay, So
basketball Chef's kiss NFL Free Agency full swing. We're gonna
talk all about it. We're gonna get to the quarterback carousel.
Quarterbacks in new places, two big names left on the market,
a lot of big trades and resignings this week, so
we're gonna talk all about that. Also, Dodgers and Cubs
landed in Tokyo. I don't know if you've been seeing

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all the japan content, but who they kicked off their
exhibition game last night well three am our time, and
it has just been absolute madness packed for practice, lines
wrapped around the stadium to try to get MLB merch,
Like it's the fandemonium for like MLB baseball with all

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the Japanese players that are in Major League Baseball right
now and they're all in Japan.

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Is just like Chef's Kiss beautiful. It's so fun to watch.

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Also, since we were talking about this, OHI there, congrats
of Lebron's son Bryce James and Sierra Canyon High School
for winning the cif D one state championship last night.
Lebron was court side with the family and wild.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Is it like Carmela Anthony's Sun also on that team.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
Ooh, he might be.

Speaker 5 (01:52):
I think, like there's all they all played there. A
yeah at the I don't know if he's still there.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yeah, no, no, no, it's like it's wherever it's it's we're
all the the athletes.

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Yeah, yeah, Yeah, We've got a great show for you guys.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Today we're gonna talk some cowboys with some cowboys insiders.
In about thirty minutes, we have forty nine ers beat
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Speaker 4 (02:50):
Wise at the newsdesk.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
But let's get started with the quarterback carousel, because Carmi,
it's almost complete. Almost So are some big names obvious
still on the market. Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson. I think
everyone's kind of waiting on is there Aaron Rodgers gonna?

Speaker 4 (03:09):
Is he gonna play? Is he gonna keep everyone making?

Speaker 5 (03:11):
Your choices are Aaron Rodgers than Russell Wilson. Aaron Rodgers
is still probably your better.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
The option, and that's kind of what we're hearing. We'll
get like deeper into that in a sec. But did
you see the photo that went viral of him like
this on the beast in the yeah, with his headphones in,
like just looking out at the ocean.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
It was so beautifully dramatic.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Like also like he's not going to make his decision
this weekend, Like he understands the news. He understands the news,
and he understands when he can be like the center
in the face of it. So like he's making he's
taking his time. He's taking his time. But that's okay,
we'll get to that in a bit. Let's start with
new faces in new places quarnerback Edition. Let's start with
your boy, Sam Darnold to the Seahawks three years, one

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hundred point five million dollars fifty five million guaranteed.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
Now, the Gino Smith trade to Vegas makes sense.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
They had plan, but Sam really saved his career last
season in Minnesota, so it's crazy to think that like
he was brought in as that kind of like veteran
presence but it was still like gonna be possibly he
was a bridge. Yeah, it was gonna be JJ until
he got injured. And then Sam Donald had a career season.
He was top five and passing touchdowns, passing yards. Vikings
went fourteen and three. Kevin O'Connell did an incredible job

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setting Sam up for.

Speaker 5 (04:25):
Kevin O'Connell school for kids who can't Q be good
and you want to do other things really good too. Yes,
that's what I got referring it to like referring to
it as and I stand by.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
Love a good Zoolander job. Now he had the weapons,
though he had justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, Aaron Jones.

Speaker 5 (04:42):
In the backfield, had a pretty good offensive line those
two tackles before Christian dar went down. They've only gotten
better along the offensive line now too.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
But so when you look at the situation in Seattle,
we're gonna see I think really quickly. Was Sam Donald
great or was he a product of the system in Minnesota?

Speaker 4 (05:03):
In Minnesota, yeah, Causeta.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Had one of the worst offensive lines last seats and
they were thirty first. They haven't really addressed the oliney it.
They've got a couple new faces. They have kind of
filled the big holes that we thought that they lost
when they lost DK and Tyler Lockett. But they picked
up Cooper CuPy yesterday who is still a top wide
receiver if he can stay healthy, Marquees Valdez Scantling, DeMarcus Lawrence.

(05:26):
Like they they filled the pieces that they lost, big names,
and it's starting to make sense of what they're gonna filled.

Speaker 5 (05:35):
But Seattle, the biggest distinction here is did they upgrade?
And I don't think they did, And a lot of
and now a lot of it hinges on whether or
not Sam Darnold is the Sam Donald from.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Last year that's well and also like, again, was he
a product of the system in Minnesota and everything that
he was like set up for success there, or is
he can he be that great somewhere else on an.

Speaker 5 (05:56):
Entirely new system with lesser weapons and a worse offensive line,
because let's let's not forget who Sam Donald was before
he got to Minnesota, and that was a guy that
was very sensitive to pressure and didn't really process things well.
He will be in a completely new system under Clint Kubiak,
who the Seahawks just signed as their offensive coordinator this offseason.

(06:16):
As well, So it's a new system for everybody. There
are new weapons involved. I appreciate that they went out
and they still got a veteran y And I understand
the move from Seattle's perspective, given the fact that Cooper
Cup was about half of expense, half as expensive as
DK Metcalf's contract was with the Steelers.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
So I get that aspect of it.

Speaker 5 (06:34):
You still have Jackson Smith Njibba, who is a budding
young superstar as far as wide receivers go. But all
of this hinges on whether or not Sam Donald is
the guy he was last year or if he regresses
in a new system, And we don't know the answer
to that yet. So the Seahawks are gambling. Yeah, that's
the That's the best way I can describe it is.

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I get that they had to get younger, they had
to get rid of some you know, some big time contracts,
all of that kind of stuff. They had to get cheaper.
But you have now for a team that was on
the cusp of the playoffs last year and has been
one of those bubble teams for the last few years.
They've been close. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
Can you sit.

Speaker 5 (07:12):
There as a Seahawks fan and say I feel good
about what my team did as far as improving our
chances to make it and thrive in the postseason.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
I don't think you can say that now. Is there
room still for this to go right?

Speaker 5 (07:26):
Absolutely, but now you've hinged everything on a quarterback that
essentially is again on a prove it deal. That's the
thing is Seattle was smart with the way they did
the contract with Sam Darnold. Very much the Baker, and
they can get out of it after a year, very
much the Baker.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (07:42):
I have been after a year or two years. This
is the Baker Mayfield contract essentially, which I think everybody
knew is what Sam Darnold was going to fetch. But
it's just it's this year in particular that you need
to figure out.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
And I do think that this was probably your.

Speaker 5 (07:58):
Best bet as far as what the objectives were that
you need to accomplish if you're Seattle. Yeah, and what
who was available on the court in the quarterback market,
And the answer was Sam Darnold was the best option.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
They needed a plug and play someone that I.

Speaker 5 (08:13):
Could Yeah, and you don't you don't want to take
a chance with any of the guys in the draft
it's not a good class.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
It wasn't a good free agent class though either.

Speaker 5 (08:22):
That's that's the thing. So, yeah, you made the best
of that situation. But it's a huge gamble.

Speaker 4 (08:28):
Yeah. Well, I mean again, I think the gamble is
is he going to be a bridge or is he
your future? Like that? That's what we're going to find out.

Speaker 5 (08:35):
Yeah, and that so they're set up a contract in
a way that like they can a lot of these
three year deals are really one year or max two
year deals that you can get out of pretty quickly.
Uh and and so I get it from that perspective,
but this is a whole new system under Clint Kubiak,
and I just other than the the three the first
three games of the Saints season last year, I don't

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know that Clint Kubiak is like the guy that.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
We all want him to be. Yeah, I want him
to Yeah.

Speaker 5 (09:02):
I mean those first three games in New Orleans last year,
we were like, oh, we were all wrong about the Saints.

Speaker 4 (09:08):
Yeah, no, we weren't.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
No, no, But when you look at their Division two,
like it's not a cakewalk, Rams are a clear number
one right now with Stafford saying bringing DeVante Adams and
really filling in all the other holes that they have,
forty nine ers, letting a lot of guys go. Still
trying to figure out what they're going to be. We're
gonna talk to Tracy Sandler in a bit like are
they in a rebuild? Do they have a plan, Like
what's going to happen there? And Cardinals still.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
Like they're sending I mean they're.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
They're close, but they're not there yet.

Speaker 5 (09:33):
Yeah, but like they have, they have talent, and I
believe in Jonathan Gannon as a coach, and I do
think that one more off season will see them get
more talent and fill some of the holes that they
need to. I completely expect the Cardinals to be good
this year. Yeah, and to contend in that division. And
so it's not a camp. No, they're competitive.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
So there's just there are a lot of question marks
in this division. I think Rams are in like a
very tight two year window left with Stafford to try
and go for that Super Bowl again. But yeah, it's
going to be interesting. This year will be very telling
for Sam Donald. We wishim the best because I want
to see people say I.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
Love Sam Donald. I've been a proponent of Sam.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
I love a comeback story, and that was like the
most epic comeback story we've seen in a while for.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
A person's career. So yeah, okay, another new face in
a new place.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Your boy, Justin Fields to the Jets two years, forty
million dollars, thirty million guaranteed. He had a decent season
with the Steelers last year he went foward to as
a starter, averaged one hundred and eighty four point three
passing yards per game, ten touchdowns, only two turnovers. But
now he's getting that real shot to be a starter again.

(10:50):
But like Sam Donald, this is going to be a
make or break season for him.

Speaker 5 (10:54):
So this makes a lot of sense to me actually,
for a lot of reasons. When you consider who the
head coach in New York now is, Saron Glenn. Who
did Aaron Glenn have to game plan for for the
last few years when he was in Detroit, he had
a game plan for Justin Fields. And if you're attacking
this from a defensive mind, from a defensive coordinator's perspective,
defensive coordinators do the quarterback position as who is hard

(11:16):
to game plan for and as far as Justin Field's
skill set goes in theory, in theory, because he's such
a good runner.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
He's such a good athlete. That is a headache for a.

Speaker 5 (11:27):
Defensive coordinator to have to deal with, because not only
do you have to deal with maybe him throwing the ball,
obviously he can run it. Like all of these things.
He's a tough runner. He can do a lot of things.
It's hard to game plan for a guy like Justin Fields.
So I understand the draw on Aaron Glenn's part to
wanting Justin Fields to be the quarterback in New York.

(11:49):
Do I think that it's going to go well, I
don't know.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (11:54):
I think that he is a perfectly like here's my
thing with Justin Fields.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
I will reiterate it again. People in Chicago think I
hate him. I do not. I don't think.

Speaker 5 (12:04):
That he is over the top elite when it comes
to quarterback play.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
I think he is an elite athlete.

Speaker 5 (12:10):
If you're gonna, if you're gonna assign Justin Fields in
a trait that is elite. It is his athleticism. It
is what he can do with his legs. It is
the way that he moves and contorts his body and
can get out of situations sometimes. But as far as
the processing and the going through your progressions and understanding,
truly understanding what you're looking at when you are looking

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at an opposing defense.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
I have not seen him be able to do that.

Speaker 5 (12:35):
At an elite level, and he has now had multiple
stops to try.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
I don't, I don't do.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
You believe do you believe he had the right coaching
pairing line protection.

Speaker 5 (12:49):
There has absolutely been reasons why he was not set
up to succeed. But at some point or another, you
need to show more despite what surrounded us.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
This is a big chance, Like this is like you
the chance to have a new comeback story, similar to
Sam Darnold last year, like prove everybody wrong.

Speaker 5 (13:10):
That was the first round pedigree. When you're a first
round pick, that follows you. Yeah, And that is something
that has followed justin fields and is why I think
that there are so many people that are still willing
to take chances on him despite the fact that he's
been in the league for four years now. Is well,
he was a first round quarterback. He was this guy
at Ohio State. Why can't he be that guy again?

(13:31):
And the truth of the matter is some of those
quarterbacks can never make that jump. But when you are
a first round talent, people will keep giving you those shots.
And again from the New York Jets perspective, from Aaron
Glenn specifically's perspective, I absolutely understand why they were drawn
to Justin Fields as their quarterback. I hope it works
out for them. Again and again, it's it's a pretty

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I mean, you did guarantee him thirty million dollars, which
is it's kind of hefty for a guy that hasn't
on a whole lot as far as being a cent quarterback.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
It makes him feel valued, which I think is important.

Speaker 5 (14:05):
Does but do you are you sticking with him then?
Like is this your guy of the future? Do you
know that already? Like I don't need my guy. If
I don't know about you, I don't need to make
you feel valued yet, Like I mean they needed Do
you want to retain someone?

Speaker 3 (14:19):
Absolutely?

Speaker 2 (14:20):
I think it's going to be important for the Jets
now to kind of have this fresh start post Aaron Rodgers,
where everything was centered around him, Like, now you have
a guy coming in that the locker room loves. That
was his reputation, right, Yeah, he's a great and everybody
loved him. So I think this is going to be
a really good fresh start for him. For the Jets,
they still have Garrett Wilson as their top target. They're

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middle of the pack o line. Last season they just
wow another center and a tackle. Sauce Gardner has been
really happy the whole thing last year.

Speaker 5 (14:47):
With Pittsburgh though, where it was like Justin Fields is
getting a nap.

Speaker 4 (14:50):
Good like Pittsburgh day.

Speaker 5 (14:52):
I don't assign wins to the quarterback. I do not
assign wins to the quarterback. He was four and two
as a starter, But that to me says more about
the guys around him than it does about what he did.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Did he lead the team to those winds?

Speaker 6 (15:02):
No?

Speaker 3 (15:03):
He did.

Speaker 4 (15:03):
He was good enough.

Speaker 5 (15:04):
He was, Yes, he was good enough. But is good
enough franchise?

Speaker 4 (15:08):
No?

Speaker 2 (15:09):
But I also now, you had a season where you
had a little taste of still being.

Speaker 4 (15:14):
A starter about for Russell Wilson, and then you.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Sat behind a starter that does something to you mentally,
and hopefully that triggered something in.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
His benching scenario, though it could.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Motivate you more like I don't want to be back
to doing this again where I'm sitting behind someone else.
I got to give it everything. I got right now
to prove that I deserve to.

Speaker 5 (15:34):
Be k I liked the Pittsburgh signing when he was
going to start the year as a guy behind Russell Wilson,
and that didn't work out because Russcott injured, and so
then to have to go through being benched, I don't know.
I just I hope he bounces back, like I said,
but I don't.

Speaker 6 (15:50):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
I didn't like that dynamic.

Speaker 5 (15:52):
And also again, the league is telling you what they
think of Justin Fields when he gets benched for Russell Wilson,
who in the beginning did well, but then tape it off.
Did Justin Fields come back in in packages but not
as the starter?

Speaker 3 (16:04):
So that's where I'm coming from.

Speaker 5 (16:06):
Where I'm like, every team he's been on shows you
what they think of him, and he's still getting these
shots to the franchise. And if I'm a New York
Jets fan and my fan livelihood rests on this guy, now,
I'm nervous.

Speaker 4 (16:19):
Well, I mean, Jeff fans should be nervous. In general,
it's been.

Speaker 5 (16:22):
I mean they're always nervous, and I feel badly for
Jets fans.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
I really do want things to work out, and I do.

Speaker 5 (16:28):
Think Aaron Glenn is a guy that can turn a
lot around. I'm such a believer in a g I
just I hate it for Jets fans to just have
to keep doing this.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
Is this okay? Is this gonna work? I don't know.

Speaker 4 (16:42):
Are they like the longest playoff drought?

Speaker 3 (16:45):
Yes? Yeah, the longest playoff drought in the NFL?

Speaker 4 (16:48):
It might be the longest fourteen Do you have a
Jets fan here?

Speaker 3 (16:51):
I'm a Jets fan. I like you that. I like
you feel about having Justin Fields as a quarterback.

Speaker 7 (16:59):
You know, it's it's hard to be super excited about it,
but it's like who else was out there? You guys
have been kind of touching on it. It's like who
else would have been? Russell Wilson.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
But would you rather like traded with Atlanta to get
Kirk Cousins?

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Do you want like old do you want old veteran?
Or do you want like possibility of maybe a resurgence
in a career, young guy, very athletic.

Speaker 7 (17:23):
With the options out there, it's just a bad year
to need a quarterback. So with the options that are
out there, yeah, he's just the most exciting. So at
least there's like you know, an exciting aspect of being
a fan. How are you gonna sell like Carson Wentz
or Marcus Mario to the fan base? You know, like
at least Fields give you some exciting. There's some upside.
Run theoretically, yes, scally theoretically.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Man, we're going to take a quick break here when
we come back. Another fan base. I'm sorry, guys, cowboys
making the headlines.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
But not for that so weird that's weird or the
moves that they made.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
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Speaker 2 (19:08):
Okay, let's get to this cowboy beef, because once again
cowboys are making the headlines, but not for the moves
they made, but more player, former player.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
And drama cowboys at all.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
DeMarcus Lawrence, who is now a Seahawk, was recently talking
about Dallas and said change of scenery is always good,
but you know, Dallas is my home.

Speaker 4 (19:26):
I made my home there. You know, my family lives there.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
I'm forever going to be there, but I know for
sure I'm not going to win a Super Bowl there,
so yeah, we're here now.

Speaker 4 (19:37):
Yeah, he ain't wrong.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Dallas is not making Super Bowl contending moves right now,
but his former teammate Michael Parsons has something to say
about it and tweeted back at him, this is what
rejection and envy looks like.

Speaker 4 (19:51):
This some clown stuff.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
DeMarcus responded to Micah saying calling me a clown won't change.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
The fact that I told the truth.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Maybe if you spent less time tweeting and more time winning,
I wouldn't have left.

Speaker 4 (20:05):
And then with a little devil face.

Speaker 5 (20:07):
Oh, I'm like Maria Kono, I love messy. Okay, I
will say, yeah, no, Tank Delaw did not lie, But
it would hit so much harder if he went to
an actual contender. Because we just talked about the Seahawks
being like they're taking gambles.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
We don't know what the Seahawks are going to be.

Speaker 5 (20:30):
Are they in any better of a position than the
Dallas Cowboys right now?

Speaker 3 (20:33):
You could argue that they're not. It's one thing to say.

Speaker 4 (20:36):
That maybe not as hard as a division right now?

Speaker 5 (20:39):
No, But like, do the Seahawks have a better chance
to win the Superowl? Than Dallas Cowboys. Right now, I
can't confidently say that. So it would be so much
better if delaw had gone to a place where the
chances are objectively better for them to win a Super Bowl,
because that it hits a little better. But then, like
there were other guys that got in on this too,
like Trayvon Diggs in a sense deleted tweet because I
can't go to war with somebody who really be hating

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on you. And it was just like this is all
that was missing, And I think it was our friend
Michael Junior that pointed this out. Yea, all that was
missing was Ceedee Lamb saying the enemy speaks kindly and
holds knife, which is the quick essential wide receiver tweet.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
I love mess and I.

Speaker 5 (21:17):
Love all of this, but again, it's just it's so
indicative of the culture in Dallas. Like all of these
guys once they leave Dallas, it's like this weight gets
lifted off their shoulders and then they just be saying anything.

Speaker 4 (21:30):
Yeah, we're not gonna wait.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
I mean, they're not making Super Bowl contending moves, like
he's not lying, Like you are the wealthiest franchise in
America and you have not gone out and made any
big moves make your team better.

Speaker 5 (21:44):
No, they make The wild part is they make moves
to stay in the news cycle. And that doesn't mean
big moves because we know that they don't do that.
But the way that they go about things is to
is like for maximum relevance in the news cycle, not
maximum elevance as far as competition goes. And there was
so like this off season I think has been even

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more interesting.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
And we'll talk to Jeff Kavanaugh about.

Speaker 5 (22:10):
This, but like, yeah, Jerry Jones didn't speak at the
combine like he normally does.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
That's crazy because it's also like usually required.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
No, so it is though Jerry had to.

Speaker 5 (22:21):
There's no doubt like Jerry had to pay some sort
of fine for not doing that. He did speak the
week later. But the thing about the Dallas Cowboys is
they Jerry Jones always talks on his bus two local
Beat reporters on Saturday of the combine. Yeah, for those
who don't know, media start getting to the combine on Monday. Ye,
So all of the Dallas Beats books their trip knowing

(22:43):
that Jerry doesn't speak until Saturday, and they book a
whole week, which is longer than most people stay for
that and then the night before the Cowboys decide to
tell them this isn't happening anymore.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
Maybe it was the day out, which is weird too,
because Jerry loves a crowd, Jerry loves talk, Jerry loves
the media, but even when.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
He doesn't talk, that becomes news and he knows that too.

Speaker 5 (23:04):
He's created this monster and it's but it's interesting to
see it from a player's perspective, and the brand and
all of that comes with endorsements and whatever, like being
the second string linebacker on the Dallas Cowboys is making
money is better than being the starter on most other
teams because of how visible the brand is. But that

(23:28):
doesn't actually help you win. And so when you're getting
to d Law's age and you're getting later in your
career and you know, haven't won anything of consequence, it's
I get it, and I get the frustration coming out.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
I also love the honesty. I'm not mad at the honesty.
I don't like when you like attack teammates and former teammates,
but like.

Speaker 5 (23:51):
He didn't attack his former teammates, So he just said
I wasn't gonna win a Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (23:55):
Yeah, maybe if you spent less time tweeting and more
time winning.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
Well that was after he was provoked.

Speaker 4 (23:59):
Yes, he need to attack.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
Me in the interview, he didn't go after.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
No no no no no no no no no, both
of them going after each other. We're going to dive
more into this in just a second, but let's check
it with Martin Wise as he wents trending.

Speaker 9 (24:15):
Just quick.

Speaker 10 (24:15):
I would have liked it if Michael Parsons just said,
maybe signing you to be in the highest defensive paid,
highest paid defensive ending the NFL five years ago wasn't
a super Bowl winning move.

Speaker 9 (24:24):
Maybe that was the problem.

Speaker 5 (24:26):
He doesn't want to do anything to jeopardize the fact
that he has the contract that's supposed to come down,
so he wants to be paid now he's not gonna.

Speaker 9 (24:34):
I just thought it was ironic. It's like you the
high at one point, you set the market.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
Well where'd you go? The Cowboys do this to themselves altely.

Speaker 9 (24:41):
I mean, the history does repeat itself.

Speaker 10 (24:43):
Speaking of history repeating itself, Kyle, you chake back with the.

Speaker 9 (24:45):
Forty nine ers.

Speaker 10 (24:46):
They did release him on Tuesday after eight seasons, but
he's not going to resign with San Francisco two years,
eight million dollars to the Los Angeles Chargers assigned former
Philadelphia Eagles guard and Makai backed into a two year,
twenty million dollar deal, and the Washington Commanders are resigning
defensive at Cleveland Furrows to a one year contract. College
basketball with Villanova fired head coach Colin Neptune after three seasons.

(25:09):
In the American East Conference Tournament championship game today that
Brian Bulldogs defeated Maine seventy seven to fifty nine. They're
going to the tournament Big Ten semi finals. The game's
already wrapped up. Eighteenth rank Wisconsin beat seventh rank in
Michigan State seventy seven to seventy four SEC seventy finals.
Eighth ranked Tennessee knocked off third ranked Alvern seventy to

(25:29):
sixty five in the Big Ten Tournament semifinal. Right now
between Michigan and Maryland, the Terripans at a one point lead,
thirty two to thirty one, with just over three minutes
left in the first half, and in the SEC semifinal,
third ranked Alabama has a forty two to thirty nine
lead over second ranked Florida with just over four minutes
left in the first half. Norfolk State won the mee

(25:50):
At Conference Tournament Championship. They're beating South Carolina State sixty
six to sixty five. They are going to the cop
what I'm talking about, to the dance, that's that's what
it's called the dance. Sound was like, I didn't get
invited to what dances in high school? Was talking about
him like that?

Speaker 3 (26:06):
Back to you guys.

Speaker 4 (26:07):
Oh, thanks Martin.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
You're listening to Fox Sports Saturday at Alex's Career with
Carmen Vitali. We are broadcasting live from the tark dot
Com studios in Los Angeles. Thank you for spending your
Saturday afternoon with Carmei and me.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
It's time for our first guest.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
We're going to continue that cowboy conversation we just had
because we're talking cowboys and bringing in a Dallas insider,
Jeff Kavanaugh.

Speaker 4 (26:24):
Thanks for joining the show.

Speaker 11 (26:26):
Hi Hi, Hi, Hi everybody, Hi Hi.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
I heard you in a really fun event right now,
like are we having a time pondering.

Speaker 11 (26:34):
A couple of times and I was like, I don't know,
I'm not expecting a phone call.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
Yes you are.

Speaker 11 (26:40):
I've just been boiling crawfish and drinking some stuff and
I turned to a mutual friend of Carmen and I
is Tyler, who was like, who's calling? And I was like,
oh crap, interview.

Speaker 6 (26:54):
Definitely.

Speaker 5 (26:56):
All that All that means to me is that you
are primed and ready to talk about the mess that
is the Dallas Cowboys in the last couple of.

Speaker 4 (27:03):
Days, which we love. So let's dive into that tea.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
DeMarcus Lawrence left the Cowboys a free agency signing with
the Seahawks. After the move, he said some things like
Dallas couldn't win a Super Bowl. So, before we get
into the Micah Parsons beef and everything that went down,
do you think that was fair to say that the
Cowboys are not Super Bowl contenders right now?

Speaker 11 (27:27):
No, not at all. I think the I think it's disgusting.
I think it's inappropriate. I think it's disrespectful, and I
think it's the same thing that every single person who
covers this team says on a daily basis.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
There we go.

Speaker 11 (27:45):
And as soon as someone, as soon as a former
player says that it becomes a thing like that, Dallas
has to be the number one team in the league.
That's what anyone who leaves this team. Yeah, well, then
talk about all the things that are wrong with the franchise,
and then the fan base or the current players get
mad about it, and four or five years from now,
when Mike hal Parson signs it's his next team, he

(28:07):
will say exactly what said. Yeah, it'll be great.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
Then like, how how do they keeple lit on it? Then?

Speaker 5 (28:15):
Like in Dallas, Like you're in Dallas and like, you
know things are wrong, but you're like, are they actually brainwashed?
And then it's like as soon as they're released, some
of the cloud lifts, like how do they I.

Speaker 11 (28:28):
Mean, I think they like they they know, it's just
you know, you see. I think about every time a
Cowboy player is having a contract negotiation, it always goes
in the same way, and people are like, oh, yeah, dude,
this isn't going well, Like he's going to be so
mad at the at the front office and this and that,
and I'm like, yeah, right up until they sign the

(28:48):
finished contract, and then they don't care anymore. While you're
making all of the money, it's all good. And as
soon as you're not making all of the money here anymore,
you don't have a vested interest in pretending that everything's great,
and so you get to, yeah, the Cowboys are a
little different than everywhere else and they're not running the best.
So here we go.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
Let's go team, So let's talk about that next big contract.
Because Michael Parsons is uh in the batter's box and
he's one who responded to Lawrence's tweet saying, this is
what rejection and envy looks like, this is some clown stuff.
What did you think of Micah's response and what's the
team think?

Speaker 11 (29:24):
I think Micah is an interesting case because I think
it's weird how you can know stuff but you're not
going to report stuff because it's just you hear and
it's not like all right, guys have sorced this up
and this is a report. Yeah, But like Tank Lawrence
looked at Michaeh. Parsons as like the immature kid, where
like we're you doing like, yeah, you're super good at football,

(29:46):
but you're not bleeding anyone. Like yeah, there were times
with Micah here where he would you know, he talks
about stuff to teammates about what we're going to do
and how I'm going to lead us to that and
here's what you need to do, and Tank Lawrence would
look at him and be like, you're not doing it,
Like what are you talking about? So I think, yeah,
the veterans and some people in the Cowboys organization have
always looked at Micah as it's weird that you talk

(30:08):
about leadership because we don't do you that way. Uh,
you know, but you're so good at football and now
maybe now maybe the runway is cleared and there are
no real veterans because like if you could get I
shouldn't play his name out in this, but whatever I've
been drinking. Like if you caught the Jordan Lewis who

(30:30):
just signed with Jacksonville right, who was here for a while,
ideal teammate, quiet leader, does everything right and you're like, hey,
Tank and Micah got into it, what do you think
he would like? He would giggle and be like yeah,
of course, like Tanks.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
Right, Like yeah, but it's it's like you said, like
when you're in the middle of it, it's just like
everyone knows this is happening, and it's.

Speaker 4 (30:49):
Like you just can't go with it.

Speaker 11 (30:52):
Yeah. Yeah. Micah Parsons is a guy that is incredibly talented.
He is super good at football, and like, for me,
like that's cool, that's great, and he's on your team.
It's it's weird how often his whole career he's talked
about leadership when it's like, that's not you, and maybe
it can be now maybe as a guy who's about
to get all the money and now you've been in
the league for almost a half decade, you know, mean,

(31:14):
were I became a reasonably mature adult somewhere around the
age of thirty seven, Sos Parsons at twenty five or
twenty six, times pressure for him?

Speaker 5 (31:24):
I would I say, if it's not Micah, though, like,
who is it going to be at this point? Because
not only are you going to be the highest paid
on the team maybe or at least on the defense,
you're also now at this point Micah is getting into
veteran territory when you're talking about his second contract. So
was this Micah's first kind of foray into trying to

(31:47):
lead by condemning d Law and what he said?

Speaker 11 (31:51):
Oh, I think absolutely. I think it was like you
couldn't have drawn it up better for Micah?

Speaker 3 (31:55):
Yeah, as a as a guy who.

Speaker 11 (31:56):
Wants to be viewed that way. And now the two
big time betteran presences in Tank and Jordan Lewis are
both gone get it. I mean, it's your playground now.
And so to have an opportunity, especially for a guy
who is super online, to be able to talk crap
online to a I mean, what a perfect scenario for Micah.

(32:16):
And what does it mean? Does that mean that, like, oh,
look at this, What a great opportunity for all of
these young guys who are now at your defense to
rally together and have this common enemy. Or is it
twenty four to forty eight hours of guys talking crap
on the internet and then continuing out with their lives.
It's probably that, but I mean, but it's fun.

Speaker 4 (32:35):
Yeah, So okay.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
The Cowboys haven't made any splashy moves yet in free agency.
Stephen Jones said earlier this off scene they were going
to be selectively aggressive.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
Haven't seen anything yet.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Do the Cowboys have something big planned or are they
focusing on the draft Ricky pieces this year?

Speaker 4 (32:54):
What are you hearing?

Speaker 11 (32:56):
I think they're going to do exactly what they always do,
and what they always do is they say a bunch
of words, The words mean nothing and their actions will
always be the same, will always be that they're going
to try their best to draft and develop. They don't
want to cut big signing bonus check outside free agents.
They think that if you call someone to make a
trade at a sign of weakness because you've acknowledged that

(33:16):
you are looking for something. Uh yeah, I think I
think they're broken up top and and it's unfortunate they
view tradeing, God, even the trades that they do make,
like you don't have to go back that far to
realize you can use fifth and six round picks to
get NFL contributors to players that are proven good. But
instead they chase after busted former first round picks. And

(33:39):
you guys are on the internet, so I'm sure you've
seen the same tweet from how many days ago where
it's like anybody referred to as a former first round pick, yep,
you know what that means. It means they're not good.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
No one is.

Speaker 11 (33:52):
Ever going to in a story be like former first
round picks ceedee Lamb because you know who CD Lamb is.
Yeah he's awesome.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (34:00):
Yeah. They's chase after these these players who just haven't
worked out, and other teams are desperate to get rid
of them, and you're the team that actually gives something
up to pay a salary of a guy that other
teams are just praying to God they can find anyone
to take the salary off their hands. And you know
it's I live here, I grew up here. I want

(34:21):
the Cowboys to win. So it's a weird spot because
I don't want to spend all of my time talking
about how inept a family is at running a business,
because I want to enjoy sports. I want to pull
for the team. I want him to win the game.
But it's hard to talk about him in any other
way when they keep doing team building the same way.
And it's bad.

Speaker 5 (34:39):
Yeah, I mean, is there any expiration to this strategy?

Speaker 11 (34:46):
I I don't think. I think the fact that Jerry
Jones holds the title of general manager tells you everything
you need to know about this team into perpetuity. Like
it's like that is an ego title to hold. He
doesn't that job, He absolutely positively does not do that job,
but he insists on having that title, which is just
one sign of exactly what's going on at the very

(35:09):
very top of this which is somebody who's not qualified
to do the job thinking he's better than the best
people on the planet at doing that job. So when
things go wrong, it can't be that there's a lesson
to be learned from this. It can't be that it
has to be. It has to be we'll get him
next time. Yeah, our plan is the best. It's just

(35:32):
it hadn't worked out yet. It's about to though, for sure.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
That's insane to keep fooling people. Jeff We appreciate you
so much for coming on. I love the fact that
you were loose and saucy for this.

Speaker 4 (35:41):
This was beautiful. We appreciate you so much.

Speaker 11 (35:44):
All Right, if I said anything reckless, I'm gonna.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
Need on the internet. I love you, Jeffrey.

Speaker 5 (35:50):
Say hi to everybody there happy saying Patty's never Oh man.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
When we come back, You guys, the dudes and the
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Speaker 2 (36:07):
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Speaker 4 (36:14):
Thank you for spending your Saturday afternoon with Carmeia me.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
It is time for the dues and the don'ts in sports.

Speaker 8 (36:22):
Highlight, So I love that, and putting a spotlight on.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
The don't the subject brings me no joy.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
That's insane.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
It's time for the dues and the don'ts in sports, I.

Speaker 4 (36:34):
Do makes me laugh.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Do triple check your work before putting it out in
the world. New Era New Era launched these overlap hats
for Major League Baseball, and a few of them, mainly
the Angels and Texas, came out looking like uh anals
and titas which spoops and santis.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
And they got pulled very quickly.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
Astro's one too. I was gonna say, like.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
Yeah, everything throw out. They are whole station.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
They are reselling for over one thousand dollars now.

Speaker 4 (37:12):
T shirts have been made.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Like, how does this go through corporate approval and make
it onto the.

Speaker 5 (37:20):
As someone who has been a part of all of
these meetings and conversations and stuff with a team before
we put out fish Like, it has to go through
so many different hands, It changes hands so many times,
has to get so many different approvals at so many
different levels.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
I don't know, Like, how you someone.

Speaker 4 (37:37):
That just looks at this, how could this be taken wrong?

Speaker 3 (37:39):
That's what I do.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
Everything I posted social I'm okay, how could this be
taken the wrong way?

Speaker 5 (37:44):
And every how it made it out of the graphic
designers computer.

Speaker 4 (37:48):
That was absolutely insane, Just.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
A wild thing. Okay, do break your own news.

Speaker 5 (37:55):
So there was a and then, and you might think
I'm talking about players here, because that's that's started to
be a thing.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
I'm in fact not. Oh h want to be insider
on Twitter.

Speaker 5 (38:04):
I'm not going to give him the satisfaction of saying
who he is because I already have n't blocked.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
Oh said, but.

Speaker 5 (38:09):
He's a very well known content aggregatory rhymes with move diamond. Okay,
if you know, you know he said the Bucks were
signing some running back smash a p Ryan to a
three year deal on Twitter, started to get a bunch
of attention. Whatever general manager of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,
Jason Light who is terminally online and I loved him

(38:33):
for it.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
Love you Jason quote wated it and says, no, we
did not know, we did not. Just a good call out.
I absolutely adore it. Wow, never changed, Jason. I love you. Wow.

Speaker 4 (38:47):
I love that. Okay, do be a humble king like
Josh Allen.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
He was talking about his new bills contract this week
and was quoted saying, it's weird to say this, but
what's five million dollars more going to do for my life?
And that I can't already do now? I live a
pretty cool life. Got a house, got a car.

Speaker 4 (39:04):
We're good. Also got a great fiance. This was a
response to.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
Not pushing to be the highest paid player in the league,
which she very easily could have done.

Speaker 4 (39:12):
And I love this.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
He's happy, he's grateful, and he understands that it's still
an insane amount of money.

Speaker 4 (39:19):
Three hundred and thirty million dollars.

Speaker 5 (39:21):
Josh Alan and Buffalo and the Buffalo Bills are just
such her match made in heaven in so many ways,
like he embodies so much of what that city, that
team is, and like vice versa, it's their social team
knocks it out of the park with him and it
plays along.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
I love it. I love it. I have another dude,
do fulfill your dreams because a.

Speaker 5 (39:40):
Friend of ours, Mina times Yeah, is on Celebrity Jeopardy
this week. She dominated Rush, dominated learn for that role,
advanced for the semi finals. I don't even think it's
fair to have her on celebrit Jeopardy because they go
a little bit easier on like the celebrity Jeopardy panel.
I'm like, she waits to be on regular Jeopardy and
I think she would still crush.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
Yeah, but I'm like, it's so not even.

Speaker 4 (40:01):
Fair to Stephanis Stone.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
If you don't know.

Speaker 5 (40:04):
Nina's background, she went to Yale, she was a business
reporter before she took over sports, and now she is
one of the smartest, brightest, and most talented analysts in
the game right now.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
But love, we love, congrats Mina.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
We're gonna take a quick break here when we come back.
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We did decent last year, right, I think we were in, like, yeah,
the top until we got to the final four, like I.

Speaker 5 (42:59):
Did recently, until I think the sweet sixteen where my
national champion, yeah, ke champion got knocked out, and I
was like, well, that's like so I had other things
that were right, but I knew that I couldn't end
up being right.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Yes, yes, good, but not good enough. Let's get back
to EDVL free agency here and we're gonna do new
faces in new and some same places and grade the moves.
And we're gonna start with Davante Adams to the RAMS
two years, forty six million, twenty six million guaranteed. What

(43:30):
I love most about this whole transaction, which we learned
at his presser his RAMS presser, was Davante was in
Japan when all this was going down, and Sean McVay
was trying to recruit Davante by sending him narrated highlight
tapes of Davante and his past plays in past games.
And it worked, Like Davante Adams said, the Rams and

(43:53):
Sean mcfay's aggressiveness was one of the main reasons that
he signed with LA I love this move for the
Rams and Adams. The Rams are in a win now
two year window with Matthew Stafford. They might be facing
that same thing they face this off season with Stafford
next year. And they needed another number one, number two
wide receiver alongside Pokinakua, and after they officially released Cooper Cup, who,

(44:18):
as we mentioned, resigned in the in the division, DeVante
Adams was a great selection.

Speaker 4 (44:24):
He's a West Coast guy.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
There's a feeling he was gonna want to stay on
the West Coast. I honestly thought maybe Chargers were a
bigger possibility, but yeah, Rams are a clear favorite to win.
I think the NFC West right now forty nine Ers
were gonna get more info on that with Tracy Sandler
in just a bit Seattle.

Speaker 4 (44:43):
A lot of new.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
Including Cooper Cup and Cards almost there, not totally there yet.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
This is fine.

Speaker 5 (44:51):
Yeah, Fante Adams served the Rams is fine. Like Pukakua
is the number one wide receiver he has been. Like
the tantam of him and Cooper Cup were great, but
he is the number one wide receiver.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
DeVante Adams. Now, it was smart on his part.

Speaker 5 (45:03):
I mean, I know he wants to say, oh, it
was the aggressiveness and wanting to feel wanted, and everybody
wants to feel wanted. But like, there are plenty of
teams that could have used Davonte Adams services. The biggest
thing that I think it made the difference for him
is Matthew Stafford. Oh yeah, he gets a veteran quarterback
like Devanta. Adams is not trying to play with an
up and coming guy. He's not trying to play with
like whatever. Like he wants a guy that has that
knows his stuff, that can assimilate really quickly, that they

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can just you know, get as much on the same
page as they possibly can. I like, it's it's it's good.
It's good having an other bedroom presence. But like, I
don't think that this was like anything, Like I don't
know that this changed my opinion of the Los Angeles Rams.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
Oh I do, because I think they they needed another
top guy.

Speaker 4 (45:44):
Besides, I would have trusted them in draft.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
Somebody need that. I would have trust them the draft.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
Yeah, But like where they are right now, in this
like little window, they're trying to get back to the
Soup Bowl with Matthew Stafford. I think they needed a
veteran guy and a guy that can be great. And
we've seen like when Matthew Stafford has set records with
both Cooper Cup and Megatron, like he's he's had some
of the top wide receivers in the game at the

(46:08):
top of their game. Like when you look at something
like that, like as you said, that was probably a
big reason for DeVante Adams to be with a quarterback
that can get you to that level is everything, And
it's like there's.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
Still there's still a question mark though, is is what? What?

Speaker 5 (46:23):
Who is DeVante Adams now? Yeah, he's not the DeVante
Adams now three four years ago?

Speaker 3 (46:27):
So who is he now?

Speaker 5 (46:30):
Was it just because he like things went so horribly
in in Las Vegas? Yes, everything was terrible in New
York with Rogers, Like, yeah, he.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
Didn't he hasn't had a chance to like be in
a good functional environment.

Speaker 5 (46:43):
He's also getting older. Yeah, so I I like that.
I think it's a good signing having a veteran there
is great. But like I like this, like I already
thought the Rams were going to be good. This doesn't
change what I thought the Rams were going to be.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
I think this is what they needed to do to
stay in that kind of top conversation of like can
they be a contender. I think this helps him stay
there because they needed another strong weapon. And you're gonna
have a DeVante Adams who's gonna be hungry, who wants
to get back to who he was before.

Speaker 5 (47:11):
So well they have they have an out after this
year too, Like the contract is completely inconsequential, Like twenty
two million dollars a year for a guy like Devonte Adams, easy, yep.
And there's an out after the twenty twenty five season. Yeah,
that helps him, Like, you know, he's got twenty six
million guaranteed or whatever it is. So that's really like
if you pay twenty six million for one year, Dvonte Adams,
I'm fine with that.

Speaker 4 (47:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
So the spot he filled Cooper Cup signing with the
Seahawks three years, forty five million dollars, staying in the
NFC West.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
Yeah, we talked about that a little bit too, Like.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
I mean he's going to face his former team twice
next year. Kind of a homecoming for Cooper who grew up,
you know, in Washington. A week ago didn't make sense
for Seattle, but like now kind of Seattle, it it
kind of makes sense.

Speaker 5 (47:53):
So that was for again what we talked about before,
for Seattle's objectives, that made sense. You got him for
half the price of DK Metcalf and you still get
you get a veteran, and you get a guy that
still theoretically has football left. But the biggest thing was, like,
that's what I'm saying, if he's healthy. But the biggest
thing was letting DK Metcalf go from Seattle Dk Metcalf
now because he's the highest paid of these transactions that

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happened this week, that's as far as wide receivers goes.

Speaker 4 (48:18):
It's on the list. DK Metcalf to the Steelers.

Speaker 3 (48:21):
Which makes zero sense to me.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
It's so weird, like DK was basically traded for a
second round pick and some like pick swaps with Seattle,
and then Steelers immediately signed DK two.

Speaker 5 (48:31):
Money talks on extension. Money talks. That's that's the bottom
line in all of this is money talks. Because for
as much as DK Metcalf wanted to say like he
requested the trade, he wanted to go somewhere warm. He
wanted a surefire quarterback situation. He wanted to go to
a contender. The Steelers are none of those things.

Speaker 4 (48:46):
Right now, you still don't have your QB one.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
Like, that's the part that makes no sense to me,
none whatsoever.

Speaker 4 (48:52):
Who's going to be throwing in the ball.

Speaker 3 (48:54):
I mean, I'm not gonna do it?

Speaker 5 (48:55):
No, I can't. Like listen, we don't know. I get
chasing the money and that and like full stop, that's
what happened. And so I like, it's going to be
so interesting to me. And I guess if anybody can
handle the egos of DK Metcalf, George Pickens, get Aaron Rodgers,
that could you imagine Mike.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
Tomlin already deserves for keeping a lid.

Speaker 4 (49:15):
On so many of these guys.

Speaker 3 (49:18):
He deserves a hall of fame.

Speaker 5 (49:19):
He will get a Hall of fame, nod, but but
literally just for the way that he was able He's
able to navigate the dynamics inside that building. Because every
time some of these guys like go off somewhere else,
we realize, like how insane they all actually are. I
would I, honestly, as someone who roots from maxim chaos,
I would love to see Ian Rodgers now go to Pittsburgh,
this whole thing.

Speaker 4 (49:38):
So that whole thing.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
Pittsburgh reportedly made an offer, but Aaron is waiting for
see what the Vikings are going to do, which don't do.

Speaker 4 (49:46):
It, Kevin O'Connell, Yeah, don't do it.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
So I think, yeah, it very easily could eta end
up in Pittsburgh Rogers if if Vikings decide like not
to go that direction, because again, they tried Russell Wilson.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
He's the only other one.

Speaker 5 (50:03):
He's the only other one, like the Steelers already tried Wilsons.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
Yeah, so I don't know. I like, I would be so.

Speaker 5 (50:10):
Much more comfortable with Russell Wilson going to the Vikings
than I would be here, not just going to but like,
don't complete the farv arc either, Roger, come on, come on.

Speaker 4 (50:19):
It would be hilarious. It's just hilarious, Okay.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
Next, wide receiver Chris Godwin staying in Tampa left money
on the table to resign with Tampa, apparently about twenty
million dollars, but the choice was about family, and that
says a lot about not only what's important for Godwin
but also the Bucks to have that kind of effect
on players to want to stay for twenty million dollars less.

(50:44):
The deal was, yeah, quarterly sixty six million.

Speaker 5 (50:48):
I remember I talked about this last week where you
it is like Tampa's a special place man, and someone
I know I'm biased because I spent six years there,
but like I have now been in other locker rooms,
I have been around other organizations. I have gone around to,
like I know people at multiple teams. I will say,
the culture in Tampa is so good. And they get
overlooked a lot because of being in the NFC South

(51:10):
and and they're kind of just eking into the playoffs.
But at the same time, they've won the division three
years in a row. They've been in the playoffs four
years in a row.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
Tom Brady, Yeah, yes, like they was where was tom
Brady in that?

Speaker 4 (51:22):
So like post tom Brady.

Speaker 5 (51:23):
Did not make the playoffs the year before they won
the Super Bowl, tom Brady comes, they won the Super Bowl.
Immediately they have made the playoffs or won the division
or both every I mean obviously.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
Are both every year since. Yeah, so they that.

Speaker 4 (51:37):
Locker respect on the books.

Speaker 5 (51:39):
This is my this is my plight, this is my whatever.
But Chris is I mean, he will have a fan
for life in me. I adore Chris. His family is wonderful,
his wife Mariah, they just had their son, Ace, who
was at the press conference. But the thing about that
we talked about last week was not only is the
culture great, but Chris is coming off another injury. Ye,
and no one is going to give you more grace
than the team that already knows what you're capable of.

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And it was heartbreaking last year because Chris was finally back.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
To normal.

Speaker 5 (52:06):
And it was because the year before he had come
off the ACL injury, but he wasn't quite himself last
year before this injury, you finally saw the guy that
he used to be and you're like, oh, he he
did get back to who he was, and so now
you need grace, especially at his I can't believe it
was saying at his age because he's still young. But

(52:26):
at the same time, you have this injury history. No
one is going to give you more grace, and you're
already so entrenched in the Tampa Bay community. Him and
his wife do some wonderful things, uh with with their
foundation in animal rescue, and they're they're super involved in
multiple causes. I can't say enough about the what the
what they've built in Tampa that it can withstand all

(52:49):
of this turnover. You think Tom Brady left, Baker comes in.
Baker's now had multiple offensive coordinators because those offensive coordinators
have left to be he had coaches now like Todd
Bowles is the king maker apparently, and through all of
this they maintain this level of stability that is attractive
enough for guys to say, Hey, I want to stay here.
I have my life here. It's worth the Josh Allen conversation.

(53:12):
I mean, we're not talking about as much money as Josh.

Speaker 4 (53:15):
Allen paid five million, like twenty million, but.

Speaker 5 (53:19):
There are things that are a little bit more important,
and fit is a huge part of that. And especially
with Mike Evans running it back still as well, those.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
Two are thick as thieves.

Speaker 4 (53:29):
That's great.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
I'm so happy for Chris and his family. Shout out them.

Speaker 4 (53:32):
Yeah, that's great.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
Miles Garrett Brown's extension deal four years, one hundred and
sixty million, one hundred and twenty two points eighty million,
Garren Dedny Times, Oh.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
Here's what he wanted.

Speaker 4 (53:46):
He wanted out about a month ago.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
So funny talk, like you you're gonna make You're gonna
get him forty million.

Speaker 5 (53:52):
Dollars a year, which is more than most quarterbacks, making
You're you're the highest paid non quarterback in the league by.

Speaker 4 (53:58):
All large march full no trade clause.

Speaker 3 (54:01):
By a large margin. What I don't understand.

Speaker 5 (54:04):
This is the weirdest thing I saw this week on
the Browns official channels on their Twitter, on their instagram.
Andrews Siliana Great reporter yep I was interviewing Miles Garrett.

Speaker 4 (54:15):
Yeah, and he was like James.

Speaker 5 (54:17):
He was like, do you know what this team is
doing for quarterbacks? And Miles Garrett looks at Cameron says,
I wouldn't be sitting here smiling to you if I
didn't like it.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
Okay, So they sold him on a suture plan. I mean,
maybe they're just you're going to take me all on,
mister badman at quarterback possible Russell Wilson they traded for
Kenny Pickett, so little quarterback security there.

Speaker 5 (54:44):
My whole thing with this is like this was on
the Browns channels, like this was something the Browns themselves
put out. It's wild to see that. Like, not only
did he admit to all right, these are the conversations,
this is what made me stay.

Speaker 4 (54:58):
Yeah, they sold me on something.

Speaker 3 (54:59):
They sold me on something, ring back something. But he
also said, like I didn't.

Speaker 5 (55:03):
I still didn't want to be here, but this makes
me feel a little bit better about it.

Speaker 3 (55:07):
Essentially.

Speaker 4 (55:07):
I mean they were three and fourteen last year.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
No, like exactly, but I'm just like, hell, it was
wild to mean.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
They're also in like one of the toughest divisions with
the Ravens, the Steelers, Bengals. They were bottom five in
points allowed nineteen than yards. They still need to lock
in some weapons. Nick Chubb is a free agent quarterback
situation obviously is their biggest question mark and need they
need help on both the O line and the D line.
I'm not sure that they're just an off season away

(55:34):
from like getting back on track, but like, you know,
get your bag again.

Speaker 5 (55:38):
If you're going, I mean forty million dollars, I don't
know how you turn that down because that's so far
and away more than anybody else is getting. Like the
highest paid non quarterback before that was thirty five million dollars. Yeah,
and now like you've just super seeded that surpassed that. Yeah,
completely reset the market. But at the same time, I
don't think that he reset the market because I don't

(55:58):
think any team is gonna like, we're not going to
push it. The Dallas Caps are not going to give.
The Cincinnati Bengals are not giving.

Speaker 4 (56:08):
The next one's on the on the docket.

Speaker 5 (56:11):
No, I mean, I have to think every other owner
in the league is like brun HASLMS doing what are
you not like they did that after the Deshaun Watson
trade and or the Deshahn Watson signing. And I'm just like,
like that that was not good for anybody, no least
of all the Browns, which is what I.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
Just I just hope they're like taking the l on
mister Batman and just like let's put that behind us.

Speaker 4 (56:32):
That was a big, a big big.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
But that's the thing is, I don't know that they are.

Speaker 4 (56:37):
They hope they do. I mean they were No one
wants his contract, No one wants to see it.

Speaker 3 (56:42):
We're talking about it.

Speaker 5 (56:42):
They reworked as contract, like they're they're giving themselves a
little bit more of an out. But like, depending on
what happens here, Like I'm very curious as to what
they told Miles Garrett.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
Yeah, dude, please let us know. All right, we're gonna
take a quick break here when we come back. Is
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Speaker 2 (57:38):
All right, let's talk about the NFC North because they
were the best division in the league last year.

Speaker 4 (57:43):
It's looking like probab lady.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
Yeah, regular season looking like you know they're gonna get
back there, be close to probably the best again this
next season. And the Bears. The Bears had a lot
of needs. Their biggest need was to get Caleb Williams protection.
He was the most sacked quarterback last season and Ben
Johnson fourth most sacked quarterback of all insane Like insane,

(58:09):
and their new head coach, Ben Johnson in his intro
presser said o line was going to be a focus
for the Bears, and.

Speaker 4 (58:17):
You guys, they went out and did the damn thing.

Speaker 5 (58:20):
Like I mean as recently as at the combine, Ben
Johnson reiterated like he was asked, Hey, do you think
it's realistic to actually expect you to turn over a
team to turn over this is all hypothetical. Yeah, a
team to turn over the entire interior of their offensive
line in one off season. And Ben Johnson's like, yeah,
I think it's possible if there's precedent turns out.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
That was it. That wasn't just possible. That was he
a promise. That was a promise.

Speaker 4 (58:43):
He did it like.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
It wasn't just a possibility.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
It was a problems star you with the Bears this
whole off season, getting the right head coach saying anything,
going out and getting the things that they needed.

Speaker 5 (58:54):
It's not It's not just the offensive line either. The
Bears also addressed the defensive line. They went out and
got Grady Jarrett, they got Dio dang Bo. They addressed
the pass rush in multiple ways, which I really love.
And Grady Jarrett is not only a great player, I
know he's on the tail end of his career, but
he's also a.

Speaker 4 (59:09):
Great veteran to lead the locker.

Speaker 5 (59:11):
Room, whereas you hope Dio is more of an ascending
player on the defensive side.

Speaker 3 (59:14):
But here's here's the whole thing. For me.

Speaker 5 (59:18):
Every single off season, I say, yeah, we need a
temper expectations. Guys, this is the off season. Games are
not one in the off season. As a lifelong Chicago
in as someone who has watched this team my entire life.

Speaker 3 (59:31):
Wait, I'm getting there. I'm getting there.

Speaker 5 (59:34):
As someone who has watched this team, they have not
earned the benefit of the doubt from me. I need
to see it happen before I'm going to give you
some sort of optimistic whatever, because every time this happens,
like last off season, for instance, Oh, they went out
and they you know, they got they got Realmandonsay and
they got Caleb Williams and they got this and they
got Keenan Allen and whatever. I was like, Okay, but

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what about the trenches?

Speaker 3 (59:59):
What a about the offensive.

Speaker 5 (01:00:01):
Line gives you any sort of confidence that you're gonna
be able to protect?

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
Blah blah blah.

Speaker 5 (01:00:06):
Fast forward to this offseason, they have done everything I
have wanted them.

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
To do over the last few years. They have addressed
the offensive line.

Speaker 5 (01:00:15):
They have gotten a veteran center in front of Caleb
Williams to take the most work off of his plate.
Ben Johnson even said this week when Drew Dolman they
signed in free agency previously with the Falcons, Ben Johnson said,
I have told Drew already I will put he will
have the most on his plate that he ever has.

(01:00:36):
And this is a guy who's been a center and
went to Stanford. Super smart, guy, athletic, tough as hell,
all of that kind of stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
He is now going to have the most work on
his plate, which is music to my ears.

Speaker 5 (01:00:47):
Because that means that work is being taken off the
plate of Caleb Williams yep. And he is allowed to
just rely on the guys around him. He is allowed
to focus on the other things that being a quarterback
in tails, he does not have to make all of
the pre snap decisions like I saw him make at
the beginning of last year, and I was flabbergasted by
the fact that he is making the line protections or

(01:01:09):
like the line changes. He's the one identifying the mic point.
He's the one identifying where it's hot. Like that is
something a center can do for you if you are
a young quarterback. So I'm such a proponent of getting
a veteran center in front of those young guys until
they start to learn what they're really looking at. The
Bears have now gone out and done that. They are
now building from the inside out like I have wanted

(01:01:31):
them to do for years. So if they're doing all
of the things I want them to do, Alex, yeah,
here we go, Here we go, bigger expectations, I guess
I have to you have to mystic, Yes, listen, I
really have the right to change my mind because like,
this line hasn't played together yet.

Speaker 3 (01:01:48):
No, they all these guys have come with some injury issues.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
They still have twenty nine guys on the roster from
last season that are now free agents.

Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
Then they have to make consequence.

Speaker 4 (01:01:57):
Well, Keenan Allen maybe the biggest I know.

Speaker 5 (01:02:00):
No, no, no, Like I like, at what you need
to re sign him for you have, you have everything,
Like honestly I would if they're gonna make a luxury pick,
it's gonna I think it's gonna be a running back,
because that's if you look at Ben Johnson's offensive philosophy.
It starts up front with the offensive line, which is
why I've been a fan of his for so long,
but then it also goes through the ground game. And

(01:02:20):
right now your lead back is DeAndre Swift. I don't
think that's enough for the Chicago Bears right now, but
you need to test out this offensive line who has
not played together yet. And again, all of them come
in with injury history. Jonah Jackson injuries last year. Drew Dollman,
the center that I just talked to sens very highly about,
missed eight games last year. Joe toun is the only
one that hasn't. But he's also getting older, so like

(01:02:41):
I need to see it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
But Jo's also coming from like but like Juste's super
Bowl winning team well.

Speaker 5 (01:02:47):
And before that he blocked for Tom Brady, so like
he's won four super Bowls. He's been adding that to
the locker room is huge a winner. I again, I
reserve the right to be wrong, and I don't say
this lightly, guys, because I'm literally always the one I'm
hated in Chicago by so many people because I'm like,

(01:03:07):
just wait, just relax.

Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
You can't go to super Bowl right now.

Speaker 4 (01:03:10):
That's my hometown. Come on.

Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
I want to see the Bears do well. They just
haven't earned the benefit of that doubt for me.

Speaker 5 (01:03:15):
But this off season they have done things that they've
never done before to hopefully get results that they've never
had before.

Speaker 4 (01:03:22):
So you're saying there's a chance. Yeah, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
I was checking with Martin Wise as he was I'm
not comforted about it.

Speaker 7 (01:03:32):
Yeah you should be.

Speaker 10 (01:03:33):
I'm not company about the fact that Maryland's come all
the way back in this game.

Speaker 9 (01:03:36):
Michigan had like a fifteen point league.

Speaker 4 (01:03:39):
And now she never forgot You're a Michigan boy.

Speaker 9 (01:03:42):
Yes I am.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
It's over to my right, so I I that's not
right in front of my face seeing this happen here
some minutes left.

Speaker 10 (01:03:48):
I know Derek has just been walking the wolver down
right now, sixty four to sixty three, Big ten semi
final between the Terrapins and the Wolf of Arrange, Michigan.

Speaker 9 (01:03:58):
I'm sorry Maryland with the league as Derrek Queen puts
flat golden on skates, Abby fold rep.

Speaker 12 (01:04:04):
Anyway at SEC Tournament semi final, Florida opening it up
a bit on Alabama seventy three to fifty seven, the
Gators in the league with eleven thirty four left in
the game.

Speaker 10 (01:04:14):
There and the AAC semi Final. This one's a close
one between Memphis and TWU Lane the sixteenth ranked Memphis
Tigers seventy four two lane seventy two two lane, nineteen
to thirteen on the year, twelve and six in conference,
so this will be a pretty big upset if they're
able to pull.

Speaker 9 (01:04:30):
It off from Memphis at the free throw line, it seems.

Speaker 10 (01:04:33):
Earlier today we saw Tennessee advanced through the SEC Tournament Championship.

Speaker 9 (01:04:37):
They beat Auburn seventy to sixty five.

Speaker 10 (01:04:40):
In Wisconsin, will play the winner of Maryland and Michigan.
They advanced to the Big Ten Tournament Championship. They be
Michigan State seventy seven to seventy four. Earlier today we
saw Bryant go to beat Maine seventy seven to fifty
nine to qualify for the NCAA Tournament. Norfolk State also
won the MIAC Tournament. They will be going to the
Big Dance as well. Nine time pro boiler fullback color

(01:05:03):
you check resigning with the forty nine Ers two years,
eight million dollars. The Chargers signed former Eagles Garb kai
Backed to a two year, twenty million dollars deal, and
the Washington Commanders resigning Cleveland Furrow to a one year deal.
Back to you, guys, Thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:05:17):
Martin.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
You're listening to Fox Sports Saturday at Alex Curry here
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Speaker 4 (01:05:24):
It is time for our next guest.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
She is a forty nine Ers beat reporter, the creator
and owner of Fangirls Sport Network at Bestie of the show,
Tracy Sandler, thanks for joining us.

Speaker 6 (01:05:33):
Thank you for having me, ladies. Hi.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
We've got so many questions about the forty nine Ers.
They lost a lot of players and free agency so far.
They did just resign us check, but are they looking
to retool our remain contenders? Are we facing like a
rebuild right now? Explain what's going on.

Speaker 13 (01:05:55):
I think what's happening here. The way that I see
it from the moves is they've made is they're kind
of doing the model the Rams had last year, keeping
their core together and then basically kind of hoping draft
well and hoping you're on your young talent developed throughout
the season. And at their core they still have Rock Perry,

(01:06:16):
George Kittle, now Kyle yues Check. That was up and
down the steek, but now Kyle us Check, as you
mentioned Brandon, I you, Jwan Jennings, Trent Williams, Christian McCaffrey.
So they have a core group of guys there. Now,
they did lose a couple important O liners, so that's
going to be an issue, but they have that on offense.
Their draft class from last season was really good, probably

(01:06:36):
the best draft class on the whole that they've had
in a long time, if not ever. And if they
have eleven picks this year, so if they.

Speaker 6 (01:06:44):
Can draft well and they they're picks they.

Speaker 11 (01:06:46):
Have whipped on.

Speaker 13 (01:06:47):
But if they can draft well, I think that's the
model they're trying to follow. No, the Rams seem to
do these things better because the Rams went all in
on a Super Bowl and won it. Fourniers went all
in on a Super Bowl for times and never want it.

Speaker 11 (01:07:01):
So yee, if it works.

Speaker 13 (01:07:03):
But that's really what it feels like. It's not a
full rebuild, but feels a little more like a retool.
But when you look at the core, the core is there.

Speaker 5 (01:07:13):
Yeah, That's kind of where I've been coming from with
the with the forty nine ers, where people are like, ah.

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
Like are they admitting defeend?

Speaker 5 (01:07:19):
But I'm like, all right, if you stack this roster
up against anyone else, really like, it's still a decent roster,
but it does it is riskier because you're you're losing
depth now and when you're talking about retaining core guys
and you talk about guys like Christian McCaffrey, Trent Williams,
guys that have a very.

Speaker 3 (01:07:40):
Rich injury history, at this point.

Speaker 5 (01:07:42):
You now know you don't really have a buffer anymore
as far as if Christian McCaffrey isn't part of this offense,
which we see is pretty catastrophic even in a year
where they have Deebo Samuel and and like you had
Brandon Ayuko down and like, you just.

Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
Don't have the luxury of depth anymore.

Speaker 5 (01:07:58):
So do you think that that's kind of where the
draft then addresses a lot of needs for them.

Speaker 13 (01:08:04):
I have two thoughts on that I think the draft
is going to be much more D line focused, and
we can get to that in a second.

Speaker 11 (01:08:12):
I think in.

Speaker 13 (01:08:12):
Terms of a buffer, yes, not having Christian the offense
certainly hurts the offense, but yes, Divo was in the
offense last year, but Deebo Samuel did not have a
good year. He was not productive in any way shape
or for him, and Brandon Aiyuk goes down, and Ricky
Pearsall who they think has something isn't really coming in
till midway through the season, not having an off season

(01:08:33):
training program and training camp because he was injured. Then
of course he gets shot and then he misses a
lot of the season. So I think and they have
the buffer they tendered Jordan Mason, assuming that all goes well.
They have Isaac Grendo, both guys who performed well in
McCaffrey's absence. They're not Christian McCaffrey. Obviously he is a

(01:08:53):
game changer, but they really still have enough of that
core on the offensive line.

Speaker 6 (01:08:59):
They do not if Trent Williams.

Speaker 13 (01:09:01):
And we thought that was the biggest thing last year
as anything, was Trent Williams being injured so much of
the year, and they lost Aaron Banks and free agencies.
They lose Jalen More. So that is the part of
the offense that I think does not have a buffer,
does not have any depth, and so it's going to
be important. And then when you look at the draft,
I think it is going to be I mean.

Speaker 6 (01:09:21):
They're not going to spend all eleven picks on D linemen,
but they're going to spend a lot of them on
D lineman and they're going to spend a lot of
them on O lineman because the D line is very
surprising moves. They let letter Floyd go this week and
they let Malik.

Speaker 13 (01:09:35):
Calls go, both guys that maybe they're not Nick Bosa,
but both guys played well. In fact, letter Floyd had
eight and a half sacks last year and both had
nine and they were the leaders on the team. So
it's good both guys that played well. It's kind of
head scratching and sexcept you look at the dollars and
they have a quarterback all the money, so that because

(01:09:57):
now they don't have I mean, you know Micah Parsons
and his tweet, I'm always going to go along with them,
but he's not wrong. Now they don't have ky on
Aie on a rickey contract. Yes, he has one year
left of that contract, but they're going to have to
do the extension this year. So that's where I think
a lot of this goes as well, and they feel
that they have enough of that core left on offense.
Defense will be interesting, but they have solid back and

(01:10:18):
you can't discount what that means.

Speaker 3 (01:10:20):
For me because it's a good draft of the offensive
and defensive lineman.

Speaker 4 (01:10:23):
Yeah, well, let's talk a year for that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
Let's talk about brock Perty and that contract extension that
he's at for. What can you tell us about negotiations?
Are the two sides close to a deal? And what's
ballpark money you think he's going to get.

Speaker 13 (01:10:39):
So my feeling on ballpark money, and I'm not in charge,
nor am I his agent, So I'll start with I'll
preface it with that, but my feeling on the ballpark
money is somewhere between fifty and fifty five, and I
don't you can't go below fifty. If you're saying he's
your guy and he's your franchise, you can't go below fifty.
And I think you really probably have to give him

(01:10:59):
the fifty at least fifty five. He made a lot more,
but I just don't think you can get below those numbers.
And I think fifty five is a little bit more
of a yes, this is our guy, but it could
be higher.

Speaker 6 (01:11:10):
When you look at the.

Speaker 13 (01:11:11):
Market, and I go back to a January set at
the owner's meetings last year, and we're about to have
those against We're almost a full year away, and he said,
Brock will get what the market bears, and that's where
they're at right now. And you look at other contracts
and he's he's their guy, and if he is, they

(01:11:31):
got to pay him as such.

Speaker 6 (01:11:32):
And they're going to have to figure out a way to.

Speaker 13 (01:11:35):
Also get this done earlier than they've done other contracts
because in the years pass as we've seen the holdout
after holdout after holdout. And I never blamed the player
for that.

Speaker 6 (01:11:43):
It is a business.

Speaker 13 (01:11:44):
He will take care of itself. The player's got to
take care of himself. But it's affected those players. It's
somewhat affected to at the beginning of the season. You
can't have that with Brock. And then beyond all that,
the player always gets what he wants anyways, and so
the forty nine ers lose out. So maybe take out
these months of drama and just handle it. I don't
think Brock wants to hold out. Brock is not a

(01:12:05):
guy who wants drama. He said that lockersly that day.
I do not want drama. I don't want drama to
be a part of this. But by the same Togan,
they got to get this done and.

Speaker 11 (01:12:14):
They got to payment.

Speaker 13 (01:12:14):
I don't think they need this bleeding into mini camp,
even like OTAs. Maybe if they just can't help themselves,
but I think you want to go into mini camp
with this done and not have it lingering in the
break between that and training camp.

Speaker 5 (01:12:29):
I think it's interesting when you're talking about this too,
because all right, say, say you give brock Party fifty
million dollars, which I think would be fair. Like, I
know you're talking fifteen to fifty five and that's on
the low range, but I think fifty million dollars brock
Party is fair. However, that puts him outside the top
ten as far as average annual quarterback salary. You're now
between Jalen Hurts and Kyler Murray as far as money goes.

(01:12:50):
But on the one hand, Jalen Hurts just won a
Super Bowl YEP, so you should be probably okay with
making less than him. But then again, a guy like
Justin Herbert is makingty two point five million dollars a year,
So it's interesting that, like I'm interested to know, like where,
like what does Brock Perdy think of himself and where
does he feel.

Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
Considering what he's made so far in the NFL, which
is like under a million a year?

Speaker 5 (01:13:16):
Yeah, yeah, it is irrelevant, doesn't It doesn't pay super well,
especially in the quarterback position, So like where does he
see himself and is he okay? You said he doesn't
want dramas okay, then being outside of the top ten,
then even if it meet like that at fifty million dollars,
that's so much money that one we may have.

Speaker 13 (01:13:35):
To get Brock on the phone for, and it is
so that we may need him to weigh in on this.
I think Brock obviously, as he showed things very highly
of himself as a quarterback and his ability and thinks
he should be paid as such. I think Brock the
person is probably willing to take a little bit more
of a team friendly deal because that's kind of just

(01:13:55):
who he is. But but the same token, I almost
hesitate to say that because if someone else isn't, it
doesn't make them bad. They're just not willing to do
it because they need to take care of themselves in
their family. So you know, it's a very it's it's
a tough thing. But he doesn't want drama. I don't
think he wants to be holding out. He said he
didn't want to hold out, but they would see where

(01:14:16):
things stood and he would do what he had to do.
So I don't know because a question also on that
Jalen Hurts contract. That contract was signed before he won
a super Bowl? Correct, Hell?

Speaker 4 (01:14:30):
Yeah, yeah, keeping it.

Speaker 6 (01:14:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:14:33):
I was like, yeah, so if he's that contract was
signed before he won a super Bowl. So brought pretty
could make the argument that, well, Jalen Hurt showed you
he could get to a super Bowl. Jalen Hurts showed
you what he could do and he got the money
or showed them. So he's done the same thing. Brock
Perty's gone to Super Bowl, yeah, and lost a very
close Super Bowl. Brock Perty went to an NFC Championship

(01:14:56):
game his first year, and had he not gotten hurt
in like the first series, who knows what happened would
have happened. So I think from Brock's perspective, if he
was making that argument, there's no reason he shouldn't get
the same amount of money because he at this point
his career has shown the same things.

Speaker 4 (01:15:10):
Yeah, it's going to be very interesting to see where.

Speaker 11 (01:15:13):
He is sure is one thing.

Speaker 6 (01:15:16):
They are always very interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
Oh man.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
Yeah, excited to see how this unfolds. But Tracy, thank
you so much for joining us and for all that insight.

Speaker 4 (01:15:25):
As always, absolutely thank you for having me.

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
All Right, we're gonna take one more break here when
we come back our feel good story of the week.
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Speaker 4 (01:15:56):
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Speaker 5 (01:15:58):
Alex and I will also take care of that as
far as posting the full episode, but it'll be up right.

Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
After we're off here, which we love, and you know what,
now it's time for our feel good story of the week.
So I think that Game five World Series Dodgers win
over the Yankees will be etched in LA and New
York fans brains forever for different reasons. But the Dodgers

(01:16:23):
keep doing good things, not only in the community before
the community, and Dodgers catcher Will Smith, who caught strike
three thrown by Walker Buehler to win the World Series,
he is now auctioning off that World Series ball through
the Catching Hope Foundation, where one hundred percent of the
proceeds will benefit LA fire relief efforts, which is just

(01:16:46):
like one of the many ways and reasons like reasons
like Dodgers and LA sports fans have continued to give
back to fire relief efforts because yeah, okay.

Speaker 4 (01:16:58):
It's not headline news anymore. It is bought over, you guys.
It hasn't even like.

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
Really like the like they haven't even cleaned up this
the fire zones yet, like it is still a complete
disaster zone here, so like every little bit of help
is incredible. The online auction will be hosted on the
Memorabilia Network. Registration opens Thursday, March thirteenth. The bidding will
begin Friday, March twenty first and continue through Saturday, April fifth.

Speaker 4 (01:17:26):
I'll post a link to that so you can see it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:28):
But Will Smith said, Los Angeles has not only become
home to us, but it has welcomed and supported our
family since twenty nineteen. Our goal here is to give
back and partner with the city that means so much
to us in the years of rebuilding that are to come.

Speaker 5 (01:17:43):
So, yeah, that's what you don't take into account when
things like this happen is now, like now the real
work begins. Of all, right, if you lost your home,
now the insurance claims come, but then the insurance has
to know like the fault, and you have to sift
through so many things. This is such a drawn out process,
and it means that if you're not getting those payouts
from your insurance right away, there are people that are

(01:18:03):
still left without homes, without places to live, without places
to be, without jobs, all of that kind of stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:18:10):
It puts people out for a really long time.

Speaker 4 (01:18:12):
So anything that's really great, yeah, is so helpful.

Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
In shout out to Dodgers right now and Cubs who
are in Japan living their best life. It is now
even more than ever on top of my bucket list
to go to Japan.

Speaker 4 (01:18:27):
Yeah, Like.

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
I've been watching them, Like they went to like a
sumo wrestling like kind of I guess they were like
learning about sumo wrestling and watching sumo wrestling, then upon
fish Port where.

Speaker 4 (01:18:39):
The food just looks absolutely insane. Have you been to Japan?

Speaker 5 (01:18:43):
No, And that's on my list as well, especially while
living in Los Angeles, because this is like the closest
you can you know, otherwise I'm connecting through Los Angeles. Yeah,
But I do a lot of work with Marquee Sports
Network in Chicago, and they were they started by covering
the Cubs. They're the Cubs, the home of the Cubs
in Chicago, and so they have a couple of their

(01:19:03):
people out there right now. Obviously with the Cubs. Taylor
McGregor is, yeah, eating her way through Tokyo. So I'm
very jealous.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
I know Brien and Watson are together. They're the two
team reporters for both the Dodgers and the Cubs, and
it is just like I want to go. I know,
like DeVante Adams was in Japan when the deal went down,
with the Rams and he came home and then Dodgers
went out there, and I'm like, everyone's in Japan right now,
and I want to be in Japan.

Speaker 3 (01:19:26):
I'm on the opposite coast.

Speaker 5 (01:19:28):
Yes, today the Boston Bruins walked out with to do
their their pregame walkouts. They're they're showing up their fits,
all of that kind of stuff. The arrival videos. Yeah,
they were accompanied by some adoptable puppeters from Boston.

Speaker 4 (01:19:45):
Take all my money.

Speaker 3 (01:19:47):
There are so many videos now circulating.

Speaker 5 (01:19:48):
And if you've never seen like a hockey guy all
decked out this suit, because that's the thing about like
hockey players, they still deck themselves out in like actual suits.
Like it's a very like that's so kind of intuitive
to what you know about hockey guys. But they're very
dressed up for the occasion. But they're all with these
adorable little puppies. You can go to the website, you
can adopt all of the ones that are being brought in.
It's adorable. It's just on the top of my mind too,

(01:20:11):
because we took our puppy on his first big boy
walk today.

Speaker 4 (01:20:13):
Congratulations.

Speaker 13 (01:20:14):
I know.

Speaker 4 (01:20:14):
I saw Mazzie on the strand that was so cute.

Speaker 3 (01:20:17):
He was the perfect gentleman.

Speaker 4 (01:20:19):
Oh it was congratulations.

Speaker 3 (01:20:20):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:21):
Thank you so much for spending your Saturday afternoon with us.
We'll see you next week, same time, same place. Be
safe and happy. Saint Patrick's saw weekend.

Speaker 3 (01:20:28):
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