Steve Hartman & Anita Marks Talk NCAA Tourney, Russ to the Giants & More!

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are back together again.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
There, go, let's make it fair.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Yes, once again, we have a lot to govern. I
love this. Anita sends me a text that took up
my entire phone on all the different topics that we
could talk about today. A reminder that we have a
little time, so let's get right to it, Anita, because
coming up here in about twenty minutes, we're going to

(00:57):
be joined by our NBA insider, Mark Medina is going
to be joining SA. You'll have a breakdown on what's
going on with the NBA. Adam Silver, by the way,
complaining in the NBA is getting too much criticism. And
then on top of that, we got the Lakers Grizzlies
game tonight. After the Grizzlies out of Nowhere decided to
fire their coach, Taylor Jenkins with nine games to go.

(01:18):
We'll talk about why that happened, and then coming up
in the next hour. Adam Kaplan normally joins us in
our first hour. He of course our NFL insider. He'll
join us in our number two, and we'll get the
latest on the Giants, obviously going with Russell Wilson, and
is there going to be a future for Aaron Rodgers
coming up in the National Football League with the students? Possible? So, Anita,

(01:41):
we do have a lot to cover today, but I
want to this is a personal thing. So with the
March Madness brackets right now, and I was in first
place for much of the brackets at this time, do
we have anitashell Good.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Are here? Oh?

Speaker 1 (02:00):
There she is?

Speaker 3 (02:01):
So?

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yeah, actually I was because you're talking about your brackets again. Yes,
I am so, not even like five minutes into the
show or to your bracket.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah, because it's not about me. Well it is about me,
but I mean it's more about our listeners out there.
Because we got this game coming up here between Florida
and Texas Tech. So we've got to get some of
the picks. Your insight as far as this game is concerned,
because it's about to tip off right now again, I
have a combination of games remaining. There's seven games remaining

(02:32):
where I can still win this bracket challenge, but one
of them I need is Florida. So let's let's talk
about this game for our listeners out there again and
it will break all these games down over the course
of the show today, but specifically right now, the one
seed Florida against the only remaining three seed. In fact,
this is the only team not a one or two
seeds still remaining in this tournament. Texas Tech. How's this

(02:53):
going to break down? Anita?

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah, Florida is six and a half. I'm gonna lay
the points before I get into older reasons why. I
just want to throw this back your way. Did Texas
Tech win the matchup against Arkansas or did Arkansas lose
it in regard to really bad coaching?

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Okay, now, I'm glad you mentioned this because if Arkansas
I had not blown that game, I would be sitting
in first place right now. I didn't pick Arkansas, but
I had Saint John's in that bracket getting to the
Elite eight, but everyone else had Texas Tech. So if
Arkansas won, they wouldn't have gotten the points or Texas Tech.
So I was just thinking the same thing you tell me,

(03:33):
was that coach cal absolutely choking away. And by the way,
it wouldn't be the first NCAA Tournament game. I was
there for the championship game at eight when his Memphis
team choked down the stretch against Kansas. How did you
see that? Don't game?

Speaker 2 (03:49):
I think, And not to take anything away from Texas Tech,
but yes, i'm, I'm, I'm. That win to me is
more of a failure on Arkansas than it is, you know,
a success with Texas Tech. With that being said, I
love Florida. I've got Florida winning this whole damn thing.

(04:12):
Or resume thirty twenty version.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Hold on, hold on, Anita, you're breaking up for your
your broadcast is breaking up right now, all right. I
do not want to miss a word out there. I
will say this. Anita is saying that she loves Florida
in this matchup to cover the spread against Texas Tech.
Of course, a little bit later on we'll get into
that Duke Alabama. I want to make sure Anita everything
is cool so everyone can hear it clearly as we know,

(04:40):
Anita's out there and hoboken. So guys, you got are
all set? Now? Okay, where we go? Anita? Are you good?
I'm here, Yes, I don't want to miss anything here.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
You guys listen again. I just I really love I
really love Florida. I'm going to lay the six and
a half. They've won nine in a row, They're shooting
forty seven percent, they were averaging ten three pointers a game. Meanwhile,
this Texas Tech team, they're one and four against to
spread their last five games. And again, you know, dramatic
comeback against Arkansas, with all due respect, but to me,

(05:11):
really it was more of an Arkansas failure than a
Texas Tech success. So six and a half might be
a lot to folks, especially in this day and age
and where we are in regard to March madness. But
I'm going to lay the six and a half. I
like Florida.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
Okay, Now, the game later today, which is the Duke
Alabama game. This is I believe, only the fourth or
fifth time in NCAA tournament history the two teams have
faced each other, both coming off games in which they
scored at least one hundred points. So it's a very
rare occurrence. But let's start with Alabama in this one

(05:46):
right now, Anita, because twenty five threes. I'd never thought
anyone was ever going to break that Loyola Marymount record
of twenty one threes back in there, you know, just
gunning and up days. I was actually at that game
agent myself as usual over thirty years ago, and I thought,
we'll never see that again, Like, no one is ever
going to win make that many threes. They obliterated that

(06:08):
record twenty by threes. That was a critical loss because
I had BYU winning that game, But it's Alabama that good?
Was BYU that bad? And where are we on Duke
right now? Who once again won? But it was a
bit of a struggle this time around.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah, so a few things like so, you know, I
grew up playing pick up basketball and you remember those days,
and I'm assuming that you've been out there shoes hoops
and you're out there and it's just like the basket
is the size of the ocean. Oh yeah, and it
doesn't matter what you throw up, it's just it's all net.
And you hear that, like, I feel like that was

(06:49):
the zone that Alabama was in and remarkable performance by
the way, full disclosure I had BYU won that game.
Really unbelieved performance by Pabama. I have business. I think
seven and a half points Steve is a lot. Yeah,
so give me Alabama, give me the points. So probably

(07:11):
my play here over over seventy three and that's a number.
Booth teams can still the highest team in the country.
They don't play defence, and I've got a third place
and this is a problem that's Cooper. Give me over
and a half place bounds into combine.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
Hold on Anita once again. We're gonna work on this
during our first break here because we do not want
to miss I don't know what's going on last week,
very clear, Anita. We're breaking up a little bit here today.
But on the Cooper flag you were talking about what's
the over under on the Cooper flag points for the
game today. Okay, so we have lost Anita for the moment.

(07:55):
We will get her back and uh so again as
far as Duke Galabama was concerned, you know, it's one
thing for a guy to get hot with three point shooting,
but the way Alabama was throwing him in. Everyone guys
off the bench are making all their threes. Mark Sears.
They how many years has Mark Sears been playing? Martin?
Are you with the Alabama pick in this game to

(08:18):
cover the spread against Duke?

Speaker 3 (08:19):
No, I'm not real.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
With Duke to cover seven and a half, that's a
big number. I listen, Alabama shot. They shot with fifty
one from three. We were sitting here watching that game.
It was incredible.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
Made the same amount of shots as BYU did. It
just didn't matter because everyone that Alabama made was plus
one to all the BYUS two. Look if they show
fifty one percent from three to go ahead and give
them the trophy. Now, I just don't see it happening
again against this Duke team and Cooper Flag the over
under by the way, that he was talking about twenty
four and a half, I believe for Cooper Flag points.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah, well he had thirty in the last game. I
mean again, this figure is to be a very high
scoring game. Both these teams top in one hundred points
a week in their last game. So you know, and
this is how it's all going to play out. Duke
the lone acc team to make it into the Sweet sixteen.
They are my pick to win it all. It really
pains me. It's really hard for me to root for Duke.

(09:17):
I was there in carbon on the previous show saying, hey,
you know there's a possibility of Duke men and women
both winning the national championship. Yukon did it one year
with both the men and women. When the same year
she goes, how cool would that be? And I'm like,
that wouldn't be cool at all unless you're really a
diehard Duke fan.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
I feel like Duke more than any other school, any
other team that's just kind of perennially great. They're universally
hated unless you're actually, like, like the Cowboys. I think
people some people have just ambivalent feelings about the Cowboys
or or maybe you know, some of the other elite
teams that have been top of the No, everybody hates
Duke unless you went there.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
I have strong dislike for a lot of teams hate
so hard word all right, Nanita. So we were going
to go oh over on the twenty four and a
half points over under on Cooper Flag in this game
over thirty eight and a.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Half points, and it's just combined for Cooper Flag, I
like over one hundred and a half total points in
this and I look Alabama in the seven and a half.
I think this will be closer than that. This might
come out down to like the last few seconds. Maybe
you know who has better free throw percentage. I think
it's going to be a close one later on tonight,

(10:27):
I think it's gonna be fun, something worth to stay
up for.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
All Right, So we got a lot of basketball action.
We'll get to the games for tomorrow later on in
the show. Right now, Texas Tech making the first shot
of the game in this matchup against Florida. Actually, they
are now lead six to three. Texas Tech with an
early lead in this matchup, the winner course will be
the first team to punch their ticket into the Final four.
All right. Coming up on the other side, we had
a huge matchup in the NBA tonight as we got

(10:52):
the Lakers and the Grizzlies. This could well determine home
court advantage in the potential four or five matchup. And
why exactly was Taylor Jenkins fired with nine games to
go on the regular season. I got my conspiracy theory.
We're gonna break it down with our NBA insider, Mark Medina.
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(11:55):
I just have to check my updated scoreboard one more
time here as we have Texas Tech leading Florida eleven
to ten, or about five minutes into that game. And again,
that team the wins that game will have the first
ticket punched into this year's men's Final Four. Let's turn
to the NBA right now. We got a big matchup

(12:15):
tonight between the Lakers and the Grizzlies. To join us
is our NBA insider, the great Mark Medina is joining
us right now. So Mark, I want to start off
with a conspiracy theory here on the sudden firing of
Taylor Jenkins, the GM is saying it was basically his
sole decision to make this firing official. With nine games

(12:36):
to go on the regular season, you got two teams
tied record wise. The Lakers have the advantage in the
tie break, but this basically could be the game that
determines home court advantage in a four to five matchup.
My theory is the NBA is so desperate to get
the Lakers deep into the playoffs that they ordered the
firing of Taylor Jenkins to put the Grizzlies in total

(12:59):
disarray for this matchup against the Lakers today. I know
it's way out there, but what other explanation can you
possibly have for why the Grizzlies would do this specifically
before this key matchup against the Lakers.

Speaker 6 (13:16):
Well, Steve, I love good conspiracy theories, but unfortunately, I
don't think that's why the reason the Grizzlies made it.
I think the reason that Grizzlies made this decision is
there's been clearly a philosophical difference with the front office
and Taylor Jenkins on how they want the offense to
be run. Now, why would they do this just before

(13:37):
the playoffs. That part doesn't make sense, but I think
that their thought processes. Sometimes when you make a change,
there's that adrenaline rush, and let's do it before the playoffs.
But the bottom line is this, I think when you
look at the big picture, Taylor Jenkins was a huge
part of why they've been a good team to begin with,
but they felt as they started getting more and more successful,

(13:57):
they need even more established head coach. But it doesn't
make any sense regardless of the reason for it. And
you know, as much as it's enticing the hero, Okay,
the NBA is pulling the strings because they want the
Lakers to go into the finals. You know, lately the
NBA's marching orders. They want competitive balance so that they

(14:18):
have a lot of good profit margins for all these teams.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Since twenty eighteen, teams following an in season firing of
their head coach are three and six straight up.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
Three and six straight up.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
So I just want to share that stat with you.

Speaker 6 (14:34):
That's great, that is a great statyeh, five.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
And five against the spread. But nonetheless, you know, based
on what I'm reading, I'm hearing that you know, there's
some reports out there that he quote unquote lost the
locker room.

Speaker 7 (14:49):
Is there any truth to that, Well, it could be,
But I think the ironic part about this is that
John Morant was a huge fan of Taylor jackkn It.

Speaker 6 (15:00):
Doesn't help that he's been out of the in and
out of the lineup ball season. He's been out the
last six games with his hamstring. But when you look
at this past Stummer, the front office basically imposed it
to Taylor Jenkins to bring in a new coaching staff,
and some of those assistants brought in plays that John
Moran didn't actually like. And so that's that's the ironic part.

(15:23):
There may have been from a team standpoint, the mixed efforts,
and you know, after having a head coach for a
couple of seasons, sometimes the voice is effectiveness isn't as strong.
But again the ironic part is John Morant liked Taylor
Jenkins and he was well respected. So it's almost like

(15:44):
the front office here is kind of chases chasing its
own tail with trying to find a solution.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
Mark When Lebron James went down with the groin injury,
Charles Barkley said that he would not play again the season,
and as it turns out. He was right, because the
Lebron James we saw before the groin injury was a
first team All NBA performer. The guy that we've seen
since he's come back from the injury bears absolutely no

(16:13):
resemblance to the Lebron we saw before the injury. Give
us a status update. I mean, I could not believe
him talking about how many points they gave up in
that incredible loss of the Bulls the other night. I'm like, dude,
that's on you. I mean, I mean yeah, I mean,
you fail to guard the guy in the corner on
the three. You literally hand them the ball on the
inbound pass, you know, and then you know it. Just

(16:36):
what is going on with Lebron? I mean, is this
injury more serious? And the Lakers are letting on? Because
I do not recognize this guy. The guy I saw
before the injury was playing at an incredible level. Now
he looks like a fifty year old on the court,
much less a forty year old.

Speaker 6 (16:53):
Yeah, I mean, I'll be honest, I don't think the
injury has anything to do with it. I mean, yeah,
when they came back last week against Chicago ago, he
was rusty. He had a lot of turnovers. But the
second game against Chicago, those were just boneheaded mistakes and
he beat himself up over it. But I mean he
had that last second tip in against Indiana. I think
the broader problems for the Lakers here is that the

(17:17):
defensive effectiveness that they surprisingly shown after the Luka Doncics
trade without Anthony Davis, it's run its course. They can't
have any thought that it's sustainable that they rely on
Jackson Hayes only as their center and they go all
out with a lot of effort everywhere else because they're
a flawed defensive team. Le Bron, Yes, you're always going

(17:39):
to have to watch with a leary ie for a
player that's forty years old in his twenty second NBA season,
But I don't think you know, for better and for worse,
the groin has really anything to do with this, Just
that they're a flawed defensive team and now it's it's
catching up to them.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Mark, just have a curiosity somebody who covers the NBA
and has his finger on the pulse of the NBA,
like you. What has been the reaction around the league
in regard to the Lebron James Stephen A. Smith ordeal.

Speaker 6 (18:10):
Yeah, it's really sad. I mean there's no winners in this.
The genesis of that it started to where it is
now is just mind bomb point. I mean it started
with steven A talking the thoughts of many, frankly in
the field here about Bronnie James and how he's not
been NBA ready and talking about Lebron and is involvement

(18:31):
with it, and then just kept escalated where you know,
the steven A throws in some fatherly advice and I
think that's where Lebron lost him. And I think since
then it's just gotten uglier and uglier. I mean that
court side spat was did not look good for either
side that, but then for it to be personal and
for them to up to Annie each time, where now

(18:54):
they're talking about having a boxing match. I mean, this
is embarrassing. I'm all about everyone in inquitting myself being
honest with player criticism, but we're kind to the point
where this looks like WWE.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
I mean, what are we doing here.

Speaker 6 (19:08):
Let's let's talk about basketball. And I would say the
same thing with Lebron. I mean for him to go
on Pat McAfee's show and just not even take direct
shot to Stephen it but throw arrows of Brian Windhorse,
who's been nothing but fair to him his entire career.
It's it's just very it should be very beneath both people.

(19:28):
But I guess that's the times that we're.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
In well taking next level now. Yet added with Silver
saying enough's enough, the NBA is getting way more criticism
than any other sport. He's hyper sensitive. I said. My
answer to Adam Silver is looking the mirror. I mean, yeah,
I mean, if you're the commission in the league and
all of a sudden you're getting a lot of negative
vibe about the league, what are you doing about it?

(19:52):
That's what I would say to Adam Silver is being
how much does he make a year? Thirty million, forty
million whatever he's getting paid, not earning his money right
now if his league is under siege the way he
thinks it is.

Speaker 6 (20:04):
Yeah, and I mean I think it's fair and it's Look,
I'm a straight shooter here, but you know, when you're
talking about Adam Silver, the league's happy with him. They
got a huge lucrative media rights deal because of that.
But I think the broader point that you're making about
criticism where you draw the line in the sand. Yeah,
you don't bat an eye when a league is praised

(20:24):
or criticized for things on the court. You know, when
it's getting into this deep in the weeds where both
a star player and a very influential media analyst is
making personal attacks at each other, I mean, it's just
very ugly and unnecessary. And so you know, I think
with Adam, you know, he's trying to lower the temperature

(20:46):
a little bit, but the reality is Lebron's got to
be a bigger man in this and Steven A has
got to be a bigger man in this. I mean again,
for it to start where you know, Lebron's taken exception
to Devin a criticizing braun in and and interjecting advice
on how to be a dad. Okay, that's one thing,
but now where it's getting very personal on both sides,

(21:10):
it's just getting it. It's becoming a Kardashian show. And
you know, the last time I tuned into that, that
that was a show that appeals to the lowest common denominator.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Yes, you hit that one on the mark absolutely, Mark.
All right, well we'll see what happens tonight. So if
you listen to Anita again, what is that three and six?
Straight up? Anita? When a team fires like coach Sam,
I'm just gonna just remember that from Anita Marx right there.
She's got this one nailed the Lakers, and the.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Lakers are getting two and a half.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
So stepay, all right, just want it out there, Okay,
great stuff. Mark is always man. We appreciate the time.
Thanks so much.

Speaker 6 (21:48):
I appreciate you all as always.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
That is Mark Medine, our MBA inside. It's a very
interesting matchup tonight. And by the way, he still didn't
have a clear answer Anita exactly why Taylor Jenkins was fine,
because it doesn't make sense. I think my conspiracy theory
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some of the hosts have some pretty good brackets this
year because so many favorites of one. We'll get into

(22:53):
that in a little bit, but first let's find out
what is trending right now. Look at Martin.

Speaker 4 (22:59):
Martin, I just want to give some context to Taylor
Jenkins and Memphis Grizzlies firing. Yeah, none of it will
make the ultimately to spoil my own stuff on myself,
none of it will make the firing makes sense overall.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
But they had lost four of their last five and by.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
An average just about seventeen points in eight and twelve
in their last twenty.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
Well, I mean, here's the thing. Last year, obviously, Jean
Moran missed all but nine games, so it was a
whe wipped out season. They've bounced back this year in
a big way, and he still missed a third of
the games and they have what forty four and twenty
nine when nine games to go? Jenkins have really respected
He's only forty years old, he's been on the job
six years of Memphis. Just why would you do this

(23:41):
right before this huge game tonight against the Lakers? Crazy
or the playoffs?

Speaker 4 (23:48):
You know, you think you maybe you know, keep some
continuity going in, But now this one. It reminds me
of Adrian Griffin when he got fired from the Bucks.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Yeah, thirty and thirteen. Remember that you can't hold onto that.

Speaker 4 (23:58):
Doc Rivers, Okay, knock yourself out elsewhere in the NBA,
the Magic right now have a seventeen to fifty It's
seventeen thirty seventy three.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
There you go. That's the number.

Speaker 4 (24:09):
Seventy three, two fifty four lead over the Kings here
with seven seven forty two left in the third quarter.
As Steve said, the Lakers and the Grizzlies will get
started in about an hour and a half, and the
rest of the slate will get started about an hour
and a half as well. For the rest of the
NBA and men's college basketball. We're looking at a twenty
four to twenty one lead for Texas Tech, the three

(24:31):
seed in the lead eight over one seed Florida just
under ten minutes left in the first half. Women's college basketball.
At the half, three seed Oklahoma has a thirty six
to thirty two lead over two seed Yukon in the
Sweet sixteen Regional four for the women's side of things.
The winner of that obviously goes to the Elite Eight.
Texas punchs their ticket to the Elite Eight along with

(24:52):
TCU Texas beating Tennessee, TCU.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
Beating Notre Dame.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
Earlier today, Haley Benlitt had twenty six points for the
horn Frogs and what will be her fifth Elite Eight
in college thus far. Major League Baseball, the New York
Yankees pounded the Milwaukee Brewers. Twenty to nine was the
final score. The Yankees hit nine home runs nine times.

(25:18):
Aaron Judge had three himself. The Angels beat the White
Sox one and nothing. Cardinals over the Twins five to one.
Games in action right now, the Phillies have a ten
to three lead over the Nationals and the top of
the eighth bottom.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
Of the eighth. The Rockies, with a two to one
lead over.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
The Rays top of the ninth tie three to three
between the Pirates and the Marlins. Also the top of
the ninth, the Royals have a four to three lead
over the Guardians. And NFL News, the bill signed to
quarterback Christian Benford to a four year, seventy six million
dollar extension.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
Steve Anita back to you guys.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
All right, Martin, thank you very much once again. Fox
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So last week in we were talking about the lack
of upsets and this year's March madness, and I got
a text from a buddy of mine and he brought
up an interesting point. So in College FOOTBA, obviously the

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associated Press puts out a post bowl poll they have
their own champion after all the bowl games championship games
are played. But in basketball, their last poll is prior
to the tournament. They don't do a post tournament poll,
which obviously would not make any sense. Top nine teams
in the final AP poll ANITA were Duke Houston, Florida, Auburn,

(26:53):
Saint John's, Tennessee, Alabama, Michigan State, and Texas Tech. That's right,
eight of the top ranked nine teams save Saint John's
are in the Elite eight. And I might have been
a little bit overreacting a week ago to this like
so many other people, But when I really look at
this year's tournament, there have been a lot of potential upsets,

(27:15):
and we had a ten seed Arkansas at a losing
record in the SEC, should have won that game against
Texas Tech to get to the Elite aid. I just
think it's an aberration. I don't think it's fair to
look forward to neat and say, all right, mid majors
have been eliminated from ever getting deep into the tournament.
I just think it's one of those years and it
was bound to happen where the favorites on the higher

(27:39):
seeds are basically winning all these games.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
I disagree with you with all due respect. It's a
different it's a different age. It's a new era with
these nils. And so what's happening is, you know, the
one in Dun's are no longer. So now you've got
guys that are staying in, whether it's college football, college
cap of course, we're talking college basketball right now, they're

(28:02):
staying longer. Uh, They're utilizing the transfer portal. They're going
to the teams that are paying them the most money.
So for me, I took a bath and and moving forward,
I've learned my lesson. When next next season, Steve, when
I prepare for March Madness, I'm going to take a
look at the at the universities that have the highest

(28:25):
ni L deals in in offerings, I'm going to look
more for universe top top universities, ranked universities that have
more veteran players on them. And and right now, really
it's it's the SEC. The SEC has bought into n

(28:45):
i L more than any conference, and it's a big
reason why they are. They have been so dominant. And
I want to say last week I shared with you
I actually I have a futures bet out there that
an SEC team is is gonna win the tournament, and
I got that. I want to say it like eleven
to one or thirteen to one. I just I think

(29:07):
it's I think it's it's it's a new it's it's
it's a new era. And it's not a good one,
by the way, because I don't know if I'm not
enjoying this year's March madness because I'm already out of it,
and by the way, I have all number ones going
to the final four. What really screwed me up is
the fact that I picked so many upsets in the

(29:29):
first round that I'm out of it, right. But I
don't think that that's going to be the case any longer.
And what made March madness in this tournament so fun
and so exciting to watch were those mid majors that
would make the runs and make it to the Elite
eight and potentially the Final four. We're not seeing that anymore,

(29:51):
and I think we're gonna say time soon as long
as well and all this college.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
Well, I my whole thing about the Final four. I mean,
with all due respect to the Florida Atlantics and the
San Diego States and schools like that to get to
the Final four. General interest in those schools making it
in the final four, unless you are a diehard fan
of that school, is pretty much zero. When you get
the elite teams to the final four and you really
talk about matchups where both teams obviously have a chance

(30:20):
to win, I think ultimately that plays well for the tournament.
I look, the reason I'm doing well in the brackets
this year is because I made a decision about three
or four years ago, because I was so frustrated at
missing on my upset picks. Like you know, you're like,
all right, Okay, there's gonna be two twelves to be
to five, and I picked the wrong two. And so

(30:40):
finally a couple of years ago, I said, screw it,
I'm gonna take fewer upsets and I'm gonna take more favorites.
And the last two years it's worked decently, and this
year obviously it's really played to my favorite picking all
the favorites. But I just I know what you're saying, Anita,
and again I respect what you're saying because it's something
a lot of us been talking about. Now we talk

(31:01):
about the transfer portal. That's where things get tricky. I mean,
did I just read the University of Indiana technically has
no players on their roster right now? Like every one
of them is either graduated or entered the transfer portal.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Right now, right like he is one of the most.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
Legendary basketball programs in all the college sports is Indiana basketball.
But right now either all their players either graduated or
they're in the transfer portal.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
So so and folks listening like, like, just how much
college sports has has changed? And that is you know
a DS athletic directors now are general managers, yes, because
what is happening is they are handling the nil money.
So it's it's it's it's just it's so convoluted. It's

(31:50):
it's like it's it's really it's it's it's I think
it's a mess. I think it's a mess. I think
it's destroying college sports. Here, let's summon up this way
shining moment. I would never miss it, Steve, it was
my favorite thing. At the end of Monday night or
is it Tuesday night? Monday night, Monday night? Right at

(32:10):
the end, what happens all right? Yeah, the celebration a
champion is crowned. But what happens. I'm not going to
the ladies room because I'm waiting. I want to see
I want to see the mix, the song and all
the highlights. I'm not excited.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
What am I?

Speaker 5 (32:27):
There's me?

Speaker 1 (32:28):
I'm telling you this is an aberration. It's not over
look at if we have like three straight doing that
the one shining moment, come on now, no, no, no,
don't give up on this yet. Look, if this was
like a three year trend, I'd say, Okay, it's not.
It's one year. One year. And like you said, I'm

(32:50):
not frustrating because my brackets still looking pretty good right now. Exactly,
your brackets are not so great.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
It would be one thing if like my all right,
my back, my brack is busted, but it would be
it would be another if I was like, yeah, but
you know what, we've seen some really good basketball. We've
seen some really good.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
We have seen some good basketball. Did you see Alabama
twenty five threes? Have you been watching Cooper Flag? Have
you been watching some of these guys? Look, there's some
good basketball being played. It's just that it's not coming
from the unknowns that we saw.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
That's what. But but isn't that why we watch sports?

Speaker 1 (33:26):
They'll be back right why we watch you know, Needa,
We're gonna have this conversation a year from now and
you're gonna say it, Steve, I was wrong, you were right,
and they'll say this year, I picked all the favorites.
I should have gone back to the upsets. I'm telling
you what what makes.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
What makes sports so great, parody party is what makes
sports so great.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
Really, I'm gonna I'm gonna get to I'm gonna hold
you right there on that one because I am very
much on the opposite side of that. I'll explain why
on the other side. Plus, I was at the Dodgers
game last night. I got some interesting observations of Baseball's
now most hated team, the Los Angeles Dodgers. This this

(34:11):
Fox Sports Saturday. Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio, Steve Harvin,
Anita Marks here, Fox Sports Saturday. We're coming live from
the tire rack dot Com studios. All right, So, Anita
made a comment right before you went to break. It
just floored me. Anita, when you are saying that, you

(34:36):
know what we love in sports is parody parity, and
I well, parody sometimes, but I don't look at it.
That's way what we love our upsets, and the way
you get upsets is that you have teams that are
so dominant or individuals and individual sports that are so
dominant that when they lose, it just absolutely blows us

(35:00):
out of our seats. I mean, I can still remember
when Buster Douglas, you know, knocked out Mike Tyson. I mean,
no one could be Tyson, no one was going to
beat this guy. He was that dominant, I remember, and
then this Buster Douglas guy out of nowhere knocks him out.
Count one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine,
ten out. And so I believe in the same thing

(35:22):
in team sports. One of the reasons I mentioned this
so I'm at the Dodgers game last night. I was
doing some TV work. I had not been out at
Dodgers Stadium doing a live shot because most of my
TV works in studio these days in a while, and
so I hadn't really been around this team that much.
It was crazy last night they got their championship rings.

(35:45):
I sent you a picture of what the nice which
is evalued at about seventy five gram. None of the players
said they would ever actually wear that ring. You know why.
I mean, putting it out on your fingers ridiculous if
you can lift your hand. But last night was a
prime example. Like there was there was a sequence where
it was two to two and shoheyo, TONI strikes out

(36:09):
and it was like a right down the middle third strike.
He turned, he knew he had taken strike three, and
they're like, wow, I mean, what happened there? Next matter,
Mookie Bets first pitch home run to take the leap,
and then Mookie Bets, who, by the way, weighs one
hundred and sixty five pounds, that's what he said.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
But he has like some kind of stomach.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
Anita, I'm telling you right now, he is so physically tiny.
He yeah. I mean they're.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Saying like he's got some kind of like something that's
like eating inside or something.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
Here, here's the thing. He says, he's putting on some weight.
I don't know. He still doesn't know what it is.
He now he's been on a different nutrition situation. He's
put on about five pounds. This guy has like zero
percent body fat, I mean like zero percent body fat.
But even at one hundred and sixty five pounds, two
home runs yesterday, including a walkoff, three run home run.
But when when you are that team, you know, I've

(37:01):
been around the Dodgers forever, right, but they've never really
been that team that they are now, where you're the
most hated team, and it is interesting to observe how
they're operating under that banner. I mean, it's very early
in the season. They're undefeated already, but you can get

(37:22):
a little sense an air of attitude amongst players. I'm
not saying it's a negative. It's earned, you know, based
on what they did last year in the postseason, what
they're doing so far this year, but now like an arrogance,
a little bit of an arrogance. Yeah, And I won't
get specific on certain people that I've known in that
organization that I used to you know, have a fairly

(37:45):
friendly relationship with that has cooled off tremendously, And I'm
sort of like, you know, looking around, like really like
you're you know, what doesn't stink anymore? You know. I
was a little like wow, wow, so I you know,
but is that bad? I mean, if the Dodgers, if
the Dodgers make the World Series and some team out

(38:07):
of the American lenks, you know, huge underdogs pulls the
upset Boston Red Sox. Well, I know, twenty to one,
see the Red Sox used to be that underdog. And
then the Red Sox became the Yankees, did they not?

Speaker 5 (38:22):
No?

Speaker 1 (38:23):
Oh, come on, well you really you're.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
Looking you're looking at the Boston Red Sox this season is.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
Well not this season, but after they finally broke through
and won a World Series, all of a sudden, the
Red Sox became the new Yankees.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Well, I'm saying this year, this year, if there's a
team in the American League that can step up to
the plate no pun intended, and potentially pull the upset,
I kind of like the Boston Red Sox and you
can get them to win the World Series. Right now
at twenty to one, I'm just trying.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
The Red Sox. Aren't that people don't love them. I mean,
the team that would be the you know, seemingly would
be the Guardians formerly known as the Indians. Because I
won a World Series since nineteen forty eight, I don't
think people get all that jazz about the Red Sox
winning a World Series again unless you're a Red Sox
fan obviously.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
Okay, all right, I understand where you're going with that.
I'm just I was talking like I was talking like
trying to help the people win some money.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
Okay, okay, well get me. They're twenty to one. They
did steal that picture from the White Sox though.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Twenty yeah crochet.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
Yeah, I mean they stole him.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
But I understand what you're saying. Here's and spending time
here in New York and covering the Yankees, and as
you know, they were called the Evil Empire. Yes, you know,
when you have to go out and you buy a
championship right when you go out and you now, folks
might be looking at the Mets that way this season.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
Yeah, I mean, well look at they spent it. But
here's the thing. You know, if you are a Yankees fan,
you're like, who cares? And that's what the Dodgers fans
are right now. You can cry all you want that
the Dodgers have spent record amount of money to get
all these all stars on their team, but also makes
some of the biggest targeted team in the league. Right now.
All right, well, I have much more on that coming up.

(40:11):
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(40:42):
should be. All right, So Florida leading Texas Tech right now,
forty to thirty five. Just seconds ago in the first half,
Texas Tech got off to a very hot start a
need in this game. I think there were seven of
twelve three point shooting out of the box. But now
Florida has come back and taken the lead in this one.
And this is a game where you like the Gators

(41:02):
to cover the spread.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
I do, and that spread with six and a half,
so we'll see.

Speaker 5 (41:08):
You know.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
The one thing that I really love about Florida is
is their bench is arguably one of the best in
college basketball. They're just they're uber deep, and they get
so much help from from their bench players, which is
which is fantastic. So as the game progresses, and maybe
you know other teams and they're starting five are losing

(41:31):
Gas Florida. You know, they've got a rotation that is
better than most.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
If you missed the top of our show, Anita does
like Alabama and the points in the game coming up
later against a Duke, and then later on in this
hour to are we gonna get your click on the
two games that coming up tomorrow? Those will be the
games that ultimately are going to decide my fate in
this bracket challenge. And I'll explain that drama, the drama

(41:59):
of it. It's so rare that I am to the
Elite eight and still in the conversation. You know, usually
I'm one of those, you know, first round like okay,
night night, see you later, tear up the bracket. It's over.
But I've been hanging in there. I mean the one
game Arkansas.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
Under Texas Tech.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
Oh that was because it wasn't I that I had Arkansas.
I had Saint John's in that bracket, but everyone that
was ahead of me had Texas Tech. They got points.
I got nothing, And.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
It was that that was I was kind of I
was teetering on the fence. So and I know, you
only have one bracket. We had this conversation one bracket
you're one of those like one bracket, dude, Yes, I've
got I'm in three different pools, and so in one
pool I have one bracket, In another I have three,
and another I have five.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
So and they're all different.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
Well, no, I'm the point. No, But the point that
I'm making is is I went half and half with
that Texas Tech Saint John's.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
Yeah, so so.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
I was that was tough, like I was on the
fence there.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
So see, I don't play the lottery, but my attitude
about the lottery be I would literally pick the same
numbers over and over again, would you yes? Because what
if what if you pick like six numbers one week,
and then you go six different numbers the next week,
and the six numbers you picked the week before, what
a one? What a one? If you just stayed with that, you.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
Can never sleep again in the rest of your exactly.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
So that's why I only fill out one bracket. I
might enter the same bracket in multiple challenges, but it's
the exact same bracket. Yeah, So it's not I don't
pick two different brackets. I pick one bracket, and then
I might enter that bracket in one or two or
multiple competitions. But it's always the same bracket because again
you're just talking about like, okay, well this bracket, I'm

(43:49):
gonna pick this team and that brackett I'll pick the
other team. And then you go back and say, well
if I had done it, and I can't do that.
But I mean, you know, this is more your business
and eating than mine, you know. I just you know,
I'm just my business. Well, you gamble on things like
this because I'm degenerate. Did I wait a second, did

(44:09):
I use the word degenerate. I never even applied. I
told you the best man of my wedding was a bookie.
I mean, I have been around gambling my entire life.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
I gamble, I gmble on darts. Yeah, so that about
sums it up.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
I just I am one of those I just don't gamble.
I hate losing. You know, really, really sophisticated gamblers aren't
really worried about losing a game. You know it just
you gotta look at the big.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
Picture, right.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
This This is how I this is how I explain gambling.
I always tell people wager what you could afford to lose,
because you're going to lose more than you win. So
why do you gamble? To me, gambling is the price
of entertainment. I can sit here and I can watch
this Florida Texas Tech game and I can enjoy it.

(44:59):
But I'm gonna enjoy it just.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
A little bit more. I know, look at it, I knownality.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
I wins by seven. Yeah, Like like I'm gonna be
like you know, I'm gonna be I'm gonna be watching
and you know it's probably gonna come down to the wire.
It might even come down to a few free throws.
It might come down to a last second three pointer
that Texas Tech misses in order for Florida cover. Like
and it's that it's that excitement that you are paying for.

(45:32):
But again I always tell people gamble responsibly. Gamble what
you can afford to lose, because you're going to lose
more than you win.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
I don't like losing, period, whether I can afford to
lose or not.

Speaker 3 (45:42):
See.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
I mean, like on Sundays, VJ. Husky and I do
the show VJ and I. He's the kind of guy
with your mentality on this one, so he does this
like if we disagree on a game, right immediately as responsees,
you want to make a bet Like those words, just
like im meet follow I disagree and make a bet.
You want to make a bet? You want to make

(46:03):
a bet for me?

Speaker 2 (46:06):
Probably I would probably bottle of wine, bottle wine steam.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
Oh okay, now we're talking.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
Okay, yes, you talk.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
You're talking my language right now, Nina. All right, well
we'll figure this out at some point. Next time, we'll
have to actually do our brackets. Headhead. You can do
one of your fifty brackets. I'll have my one bracket
and we'll go just you.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
Know, we'll do one on one, one on one. I
don't need fifty against you. We'll do one on one.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
How about the betty nods on who's going to be
the next quarterback of the Pittsburgh Steelers. I mean, at
some point the Steelers have to make a decision, do
they not in what direction they're going? I mean, now,
all of a sudden, I'm looking at the draft boards
and showing up at Pittsburgh at twenty one Jackson Dart.
I know they had lunch with Jalen Milroe. Obviously, we
still have the Aaron Rodgers situation out there. Could they

(46:53):
make a deal to Kirk Cousins. What are the betting
nods right now? And who exactly is going to be
the weak one starting core or back for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
Those are offshore. That's how you wager on that. So
I don't dabble on those offshore sports.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
Okay, well I'm going to le for you right now
on this show.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
You know, here's here's I feel like it's been like
musical like write musical chairs. Wasn't that game that we
played younger?

Speaker 5 (47:22):
Right?

Speaker 2 (47:22):
Music turns off and you've got to sit down and
then like the last person who sits and doesn't have
a chair, you're out. Yeah, right, I feel like that's
the Pittsburgh Steelers. Right. But better question is if you're
Aaron Rodgers, do you because let's let's let's be on
like at this stage of the game, right, Aaron's forty one,

(47:45):
He's going to be forty two in December.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
It's a big investment to start playing for a new
new franchise, a new organization because he has to go
in there. He has to learn a whole new offense,
he has to ingratiate himself, he has to like be
that team player, he has to like like establish new
relationships in new reports.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
He doesn't have his hack at guy hanging out with him.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
No, that's that's another thing. Right, So it's it's, it's, it's,
it's a it's it's a big thing wherever Aaron goes now,
because you're right, he doesn't have Nathaniel Hackett. He doesn't
have an organization who's like, here, here's the keys to
the car by us. Uh, that's not the session. This is.
This is gonna be very time consuming, and this is

(48:29):
going to be very He's gonna have to eat some
humble pie, which I don't think Aaron is used to doing.
So there's all of that. If you're Aaron Rodgers, isn't
better to sit back and say pass on the Steelers.
And because we know each and every year there are
teams at least and I and I hate to be
a negative Nelly, but like we know that there's gonna

(48:51):
be like three or five teams who are going to
lose a starting quarterback. And at least one or two
of those five teams are gonna be teams that very
well are trying to win a Super Bowl or at
least make it into the postseason and perform well in
the postseason. So if you're Aaron Rodgers, are you signing
into a Pittsburgh Steelers team that more than likely will

(49:12):
finish third in the ABC North.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
With all that.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
Commitment, in all of that buying in in time and
blood and sweat and tears trying to incorporate yourself into
a new franchise. Or are you better to sit back
and wait and see how the dominoes fall in the
NFL when the season begins, and wait for that call
to potentially a Kansas City team or potentially to a

(49:42):
Buffalo Bills team who needs a quarterback to come in
and potentially win a Super Bowl because their quarterback has
gone down.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
Well, I understand what you're saying, but my point is this,
why would I sign him? I mean, first of all,
it's not just you could say, well, he still has game,
and you know, people on social media look at his
numbers last year with the Jets. You know the numbers
can be deceiving. I go by the eyeball test. Okay,
Aaron Rodgers put up numbers in games where they were losing.

(50:12):
He was not the same quarterbacks, So stop insisting like, well,
you know, twenty eight touchdowns, eleven picks, he's he's better
than most. No, And when you when you talk about
the elite quarterbacks in the league, He's not even anywhere
near that level anymore. So if you were, like you say,
a team in mid season and you're you're on track
to make the playoffs and you lose your starting quarterback,

(50:33):
do I really want to bring in all that comes
along with signing Aaron Rodgers?

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Beggars can't be choosers?

Speaker 1 (50:39):
Team, Well, if you men be options.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
And I'm just gonna go, like, if you're the Buffalo Bills,
who I have winning the AFC East this year.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
And you really want to put up with Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
Listen, I don't. I don't want to put up with him.
I'm just saying, if you are a team and you're
an organization where you you are in a really good
situation where you very well could win your division. Therefore
you were not even not only alone making into the postseason,
but more than likely hosting the first game in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
But he wouldn't even know your offense. He just made
the point about the fact that does he really want
to go to Pittsburgh. I'm with you on that one,
about where he has to learn a whole new system.
He doesn't have to Jolo could come in. Yeah, but
Cleveland Brown, I understand the Flacco situation raised a lot
of And then how did he do in the playoff game?
He was awful in that playoff game. Look, I just again,

(51:33):
Joe Flacco was a nice story coming off the bench.
The guy has never made a Pro Bowl. Do you
realize Flacco has never made a Pro Bowl in his
entire career, but he has had success in the postseason.
And but Aaron Rodgers would not be Joe Flacco. No,
because the attention that Aaron Rodgers would get just out

(51:53):
of the box would be so so much commotion. No
one was like, wow, you know people are hovering on
Cleveland with Joe Flacca. Was only until he actually started
winning games and playing decently that it became a story.
With Aaron Rodgers. The story comes the second even make
a phone call to the guy. I just I just
I would just hope that Aaron Rodgers takes a step

(52:15):
back and realize it's it's over. It's over and your coreer,
Now wait five years, first ballot Hall of Fame. You're
not gonna win a Super no nex.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
Yeah, but somebody, somebody who's that narcissistic does not want
to end his career in the way that it went
down in New York. Steve.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
Yeah, so he does down again with another Losy memory.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
You know, you know what, this is what I think
the best situation, the best scenario for Aaron Rodgers. The
San Francisco forty nine ers trade Brock Purty and Kyle
Shanahan brings in Aaron Rodgers. Oh that's what that's okay,
I think I think I think that's the best. That's
the best scenario where I can see Aaron Rodgers having success.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
All right, Well, let's save that for Adam Kaplan, all right,
because I'm going to break that down with him coming up.
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All right's talk some NFL right now. The best of
the best are NFL insider Adam Kaplan is joining us
right now. Adam, I'm going to ask you the exact
question I just asked Anita. All right, if you had
to put money down, I don't know about your gambling habits.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
But cards. I'm a card guy, but gave you.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
Okay, Glad. But if you had to put money down
on who will be the week one starter at quarterback
for the Pittsburgh Steelers, you would put money on who.

Speaker 3 (55:05):
I wouldn't put on any of them because I'm not
completely sold on Aaron Rodgers going there.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
I'm not either.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
Just some stuff that I found out this week. I'm
not saying he's not for people listening, make it clear.
I just think he This Minnesota Vikings thing, it's really interesting.
I don't know if you're aware of this. So their
GM went on the record and saying, look, they he
confirmed that they have interested him. I just know the
way that teams see both. You know, I've talked to

(55:32):
a lot of people about both teams. Clearly, the Minnesota
situation is better, better better play caller. Kevin O'Connell, who
happens to be the head coach, great play designer. You've
got Justin Jefferson ar Gouna, the NFL's best receiver, clearly
one of the top three. Addison's pretty good at the
other receiver, and the Hockinson's a really good tight end.

(55:54):
They got their left tackle back, Christian Darisol. It's a
better situation. I just you know this this. You know
it's out there that it's very clear that JJ McCarthy's
their future quarterback. But what's also out there is that
they they had interest in bringing Sam Darnold back Steve
it just didn't work. They wanted a very favorable structure

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so they can get out of fleet did and play well.
So they clearly have interested in Aaron Rodgers and he
is interested in them. I'm I'm not I don't two percentages.
I've never done that because things could change within a minute.
But I just found just some stuff I've heard the
last forty eight hours from really some smart people I trust.
I'm just gonna I'm gonna keep this this fightings thing open.
It doesn't mean that Rogers won't signed with the Steelers

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next week. To move this forward here, It's not the
lock that I thought it was, maybe like five days ago. Now,
I want to make it also clear before we move
on the Steelers clearly what Rogers like this is. I
don't want to say like their whole off seats made
that they get Rogers, but they're all in on Rogers
and they are. But whether he's so much in on

(56:58):
them it is, I wouldn't go that far. He has
interest in them, but I'm not I'm not willing to
say he's like one hundred percent going to sign there.
I'm just not there yet.

Speaker 5 (57:07):
All right?

Speaker 2 (57:07):
Two part question number one? What is the hold up? Then? Like, like,
what is what is the back and forth in regards
to the Minnesota Vikings whether okay, if you want them,
go get them. Obviously they want each other. What is
the hang up? That's question number two? Question number two
is if Pittsburgh does not get Aaron Rodgers, what do

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they do?

Speaker 3 (57:31):
So, Nina, they've made it pretty clear that yes, they
have interested we're about the Vikings here, but they don't
want to do anything right now. They want to get
JJ McCarthy in their off season program. You know, he's
coming back from major knee injury, the miniscus, the full
miniscus repair that's in his case. This is sixty seven
month rehab and this is a guy that just a
couple things. I want to explain. Sam Donald was going

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to be their starting quarterback last season had he not
gotten hurt like they I could tell you from talking
to people there, it was pretty clear to them. But
McCarthy started close the gap a little bit and then
in the first preseason game he suffers his injury, which
nobody knew about. He didn't feel right the next day,
and then it checked out. They were shocked and learned
that it was going to be the miniscus repair anita.

(58:13):
So it's kind of one of these situations like they
definitely have interest in them, and if it's not, they're
not all in like Pittsburgh is, Like they have an interest,
but they struggle with the McCarthy situation because they this
is their quarterback last year in the first round. So
that's the hold up if you want to see what's

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not enabling him to go all in, and it's clearly
JJ McCarthy, who again is going to be their guy. Now,
I want to say one thing with the Stewarts before
we move on to whatever else we want to talk about.
Even if they get Rogers a quarterback is still in
play in the first round. That doesn't change anything. This
is a this is a one year situation, no matter
what people think.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
All right, well, speaking of players or quarterbacks still in
play in the draft for a team the New York Giants.
All right, so you got Winston, you got Russell Wilson.
That's a dynamic duo. Should turn fast. So my question is, now,
what are the plans for the Giants with the third
overall pick in the draft?

Speaker 3 (59:09):
You know, I know everyone Steve had Schudeur Sanders and
my mock that I did for my company inside the Birds.
I did a visual audio mock draft and Russell Wilson
does not affect it at all, has no impact on anything.
The draft has been and always will be about the future.
It's not about the season. It's about what you're trying
to accomplish in future seasons. So you know, we need

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to understand that. And Winstan and Roger I mean, Winston
and Russell Wilson are one year solutions. That's it. And
we fully expect Russell Wilson to be the starter. So
right now, I go shout Sanders, but let me put
an asterisk on that. I'm not so sure that Shuder
Sanders is the second best quarterback in this draft. There

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are a couple of Jackson darts, a lot of guys
got a lot of steam. He should go somewhere in
the second half of the first round. No, I'm not
buying top ten. But Chyler shall or however he said, Shug,
I'm not sure exactly that he's a He's a guy
who's going to be twenty six years old this fall.
He's really really well liked Steve. We're going to hear
a lot more about him as we get closer. You
we're under four weeks to the draft. He had a

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really good senior ball week. You know, he's transferred from
a couple of schools. That's why he's older. He has
some injuries. But this kid could really throw the football,
and I know a lot of coaches that I've talked
to really like this player. He's out of Louisville, by
the way.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
So hypothetically speaking, Kim Ward, as we know, crushes his
pro day. Everybody's expecting the Tennessee Titans to take him.
The Browns are sitting in it too. You know, I
think the Browns are in a situation where they could
take Sanders or and we see it time and time again.
Adam right, like, it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
Won't be Sanders. I would be I would any I
feel frey confident in that one.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
But I'm saying, like, there's a team out there that
I'm sure we've seen it, like we're an owner or
a general manager or coach falls in love with a player.
Can you see that happening with Sanders, that the team
falls in love with it in trades up to two?

Speaker 3 (01:01:04):
No, he's not. See That's why I was saying earlier.
He's not the quarterback quite that I thought he was.
When I started working on this in early January. You know,
I had some good stuff, and as I got through it,
I'm like, you know what, he's not as well liked
by NFL people, not off the field. I'm just talking
about as a quarterback. It's not as his tape is
not as good as I thought it was. Like we're

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talking about the game tape, which is everything, Grady's game tape.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
Those two do you hunter?

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
I would say, Abdul Carter because this is what the
late great Gil Brandt told me. You know, the former
Cowboys personnel man, you know from the sixties seventies, and eighties.
Gil told me that it's real simple. When you put
together your value board, it's quarterback, it's offensive left tackle,
it's it's pass rusher, anita, then cornerback, pass rush. I

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know they've got Garrett, but Carter. You take Carter, and
they actually, by the way, they have pretty a depth
at DN or edge rush you know, as it were,
But you just take the you take the edge rusher
over it. Now, I want to say one thing here.
He's got two injury concerns. The shoulder, i'm told, is
not really a concern. It's minor. But he's got the
stretch reaction, which is a precursor potentially to a broken foot.

(01:02:18):
A stretch reaction, by the way, when you have this injury,
as I've I've covered this thing now for almost twenty years,
you've stretched parts of your foot. You stretched the ligaments,
so that that's a problem. That that's why I was
discovered in the scans of the draft at the combine.
I'm still looking into this one to see if not

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only the Browns but other teams are concerned. But I'd
be very as long as it needed to move this
along here, as long as Carter's medicals check out. I
fully expect him to go number two.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
And inneed, I got to sneak in one last question here.
Sure are the Cowboys going to give Michael Parsons two
hundred million dollar contract?

Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
Well, they're gonna. He's gonna get a new deal. It's
the question is one. Is he going to get it out?
It's impossible to note and see if you and I've
known each other for a long time, how many times
we said that they wait to the lest min they
wind up paying when they want to. I know, it's absurd.
Jerry Jones is not learned. I don't buy the stuff
that he doesn't want to win and all this it's
about show and all that. I get why people say that.

(01:03:19):
But the one area Jerry's got to do a better
job is signing a guy when the you know, the
iron strikes. And now he's waited so long, he's going
to have to pay over forty million a season. That's
just the way it is.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
Yeah, fifty two and a half sacks and sixty three
career games.

Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
Phenomenal football player. And you know what's crazy is that
he he started his career as an inside backer for
Penn State and they weren't totally sure how to use him.
But late in his career with Penn State, he became
an edge rusher. And I give Dan Quinn, the now
Washington head coach, who was his first defense coordinator, and
he said, no, he's not an inside backer. He's an
edge rusher. That was a great decision.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
Great stuff as always, And you know we've been saying
for three weeks, now, is this the week that we're
gonna see Aaron Rodgers sign.

Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
We'll just I don't make that prediction, my man. No, No,
here's why, because it's real simple. They're on his timeline,
the Steelers. Let's let's talk about them. He's a very
mercurial guy to see, as you know, he's just a
different guy. And I didn't feel despite those rumors about, oh,
he could sign this week, I'm not sure what that
even means. Yeah, I mean he could. He could wake

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up tomorrow and sid he's not gonna play football.

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
So I could have, would have should have. We've heard
that before. Great stuff, Adam. We'll talk again next week,
Adam Kaplan joining us. There are Fox Sports Radio, NFL Insider.
All right, let's find out what is trending right now.
We got March Madness actionly going on, and here's Martin
once again. He gives a little update on what is

(01:04:47):
happening in this game between Florida and Texas Tech.

Speaker 4 (01:04:49):
Well, with about three minutes and thirty seconds into the
second half.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
It's all tied up forty two apiece.

Speaker 4 (01:04:54):
Between the Red Raiders and the Red Raiders and the
Gators here actually yeah, oh wait, hold on a second.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
Here, Yeah, Texas Tegas is just gonna hit a three.
I'm predicting right now. I'm gonna predict right now, the
Texas tex is gonna make a three point shot right here,
three two, boom bottom, All right, forty five to forty two.

Speaker 4 (01:05:16):
This score, as william says, the three that we all
saw online a couple of minutes earlier.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
Yeah, we're watching online. The games on TV is about oh,
I don't know. Ten seconds later. Well, right now, let's
go to the women's side of things.

Speaker 4 (01:05:29):
Sweet sixteen, you kind of advances to the Elite eight,
beating Oklahoma eighty two to fifty nine. They'll be joined
there by Texas and TCU. Texas beat Tennessee earlier today,
TCU beat Notre Dame, so that rounds out the women's
Sweet sixteen. That's far the action on that side of things.
We're getting ready to see Duke and Alabama. They will

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tip off in just a moment as well. In Major
League Baseball, Steve, we saw the Yankees nine times they
hit home runs pitches of the game right from their
former teammate Nester Cortes. It was like, thank you for
coming bat He pitches three home runs.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
Yeah, I think they looked it up at least since
nineteen eighty eight. That's never happened before. Aaron Judge three
by himself in terms of home runs. You know you're
having a good day when the notifacation pops up from MLB,
Aaron Judge, will he go four for four?

Speaker 4 (01:06:19):
You tune in now. Angels beat the White Sox one
to nothing, Cardinals beat the Twins five to one, Orioles
over the Blue Jays nine to five, Phillies Nationals Philadelphia
wins eleven to six, two to one, Rockies over Rays
three to two, Reds over Giants, and the Royals beat
the Guardians three, four to three. Right now, top of
the twelve, Pittsburgh and Miami tied four a piece.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
Top of the second, the Rangers have.

Speaker 4 (01:06:42):
A two tothing lead on the Red Sox and scoreless
between the Mets and the Astros and the Braves and
the Padres.

Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
Those two games just getting started. In NBA, we have the.

Speaker 4 (01:06:53):
Sacrament of the Sacramento King got pounded earlier today. They
were leading this game at the end of the first quarter.
But Orlando with a twenty one in one twenty one
to ninety one win, So thirty point win. There you go,
twenty one a piece between Brooklyn and Washington with two
minutes left in.

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
The first quarter.

Speaker 4 (01:07:10):
The Bills signed Christian Benford to a four year, seventy
six million dollar extension for the cornerback on The Texans
sign former coach linebacker EJ.

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
Speed to a one year deal worth up to five
million dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
Back to you guys, all right, Martin, thank you very much.
Once again. Fox Sports Saturday, Steve Hartman and Anita Marks
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Radio wherever you get your podcasts. You'll see today's show
posted right after we get off the air. So right now,
Texas Tech leading Florida forty five forty two. They took
a TV time out we got about sixteen minutes ago.
In the second half, and once again Texas Tech is
shooting very well. From the three point so an eight
two start to the second half, Texas Tech has a

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three point lee. Now, as I mentioned, Anita, as far
as my brackets are concern and as you have learned,
it's all.

Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
About always goes back to your heart.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
It's always back to me because I never won one
of these things and I still have a chance. So
I'm going I'm gonna hang on as long as I
can here.

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
So how are you going to celebrate when you win?

Speaker 3 (01:08:23):
You?

Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
You know what I mean? I will invite you from
Hoboken and will will enjoy a bottle of wine together.
How does that sound? You know?

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
Why do you say it Hoboken? Why do you say
it like that?

Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
I don't know, broken Hoboken? Hobo? Is that like Hobo?
Like Hoboken? I know, I do.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
It's actually a really cool place to live.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
I know, I'm sure it is. Believe me. I'm I'm
all over.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
The dog park on every street corner and just.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
And I have three dogs. I love dogs.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
I'm very very partial Ducks. But today I need Florida
and Duke. Okay, so the one seats and it's not
going to be easy, because I agree with you, Alabama
is going to be Really I can't believe Duke is
what seven and a half point favorite in that game?
Is that right?

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
Yep? Alabama's getting seven and.

Speaker 3 (01:09:09):
A half Yep?

Speaker 1 (01:09:10):
That is amazing to me after what Alabama did against BYU.
But I really, my my focus is tomorrow's games because
this is where I need upsets. So I am I
have in my bracket Tennessee and Michigan State, meaning the
two seeds knocking out the one seeds Houston and Auburn, respectively.

(01:09:32):
Let's start with that Tennessee Houston game. Eyeball test tells
me right now, even though Houston is a slight favorite
in this game, Tennessee's been playing better basketball than what
I've seen from Houston so far in this tournament.

Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
So just meriting in this for a minute. The last
time Houston lost a game the Kansas City Chiefs were
still Super Bowl champions, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's been
it's been that long. Thirty three and four. They went
ten and zero on the road, which is really really impressive.
Right now, that line is two and a half, I
would lay it. I do believe Houston's defense wins championships,

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and not just in the NFL, obviously in college basketball
as well. They just they're so damn good, right, And
I do believe this is going to be a rock fight.
If you want to play the under at one, twenty
three and a half not going to be bad at you.
Tennessee is excellent difference defensively as well, Ken Palm number

(01:10:30):
three nationally, Houston number one nationally. Houston, as we know,
holding opponents to fifty eight points per game. So if
you want to play the under that, you know, again
solid play. But for me, Houston minus two and a half.
I think Houston gets the deal done here.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
All right. So if that game doesn't eliminate me, then
I'll be turning my attention to the second game tomorrow,
which is Auburn, who was recognized most of the year
as the best team in the country and then they
stumbled a little bit down the stretch with a couple
of tough losses going against tom Izzoa Michigan State, and
of course when it comes to Tom Iszoh, he's been

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to the Final four eight times. It's been a while,
but he's got a good opportunity to make it nine.
Auburn about what about a four and a half point
favorite in this game? Anitas, So where do you stand
on this Auburn Michigan State matchup?

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
Yeah, out of all four of these games, this is
the one to me that's most difficult. And I do
have in my bracket that is busted. I do have
Auburn advancing. Again, as you know, I've got all number
ones heading to the Final four. Auburn is favored by
four and a half. I just I think I think

(01:11:46):
Izzo is found lightning in a bottle, especially considering he's
coaching a lot of freshmen and they have welcomed the
big stage. Auburn and you and I talked about it
last week. Their average age I think comes in around
twenty four to twenty five. The average age player who's
playing for Auburn is higher than Okac Thunder in the NBA.

Speaker 1 (01:12:10):
That's a great stat So you're.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
Talking about a Michigan State team that's got a lot
of young guys who are just like going through puberty,
going up against Auburn whose average age is more than
an NBA team. I do believe Auburn wins here, but
to me, four and a half is a lot like
I think this could be a one point game. I'm

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just I'm staying away from it. I do not have
a play here. At the end of the day, I
think Auburn wins. So if you want to play Auburn
on the money line, all the power to you. If
you want to go into tomorrow and say, Okay, I'm
going to play Houston and Auburn on the money line
as a two team parlay, That's probably how I would
handle Sunday Funday.

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
By the way, speaking of age, I'm just thinking about this.
The four coaches coaching tomorrow, Rick Barnes, Kevin Samson, Tom
is Oh, Bruce Pearl, I'll put it this way, their
average age is older than me. And that's saying something.
I think Pearl's the only one younger than me. It's

(01:13:15):
just isn't amazing about these coaches at the collegiate level.
But you know, you look at a guy like Izzoe
and you talked about all the freshmen, how's he doing
it still? I mean seriously, I mean some of his
contemporaries have finally just thrown up their hands saying, I
just don't want to deal this. I mean this transfer
portal and the NIL And you know, it's not like
it was where I recruit a kid out of high
school and I get him for two, three, four years,

(01:13:37):
and you know I can build a team around that.
Now all of a sudden, I don't have to only
have to recruit players to come into my program. I
have to recruit players to stay in my program. It's
absolutely nuts. But here we got four veteran coaches tomorrow
that are still at it and obviously doing it at
a very high level.

Speaker 2 (01:13:57):
Again, I know we talked about it last week and
I'm pairing apples to oranges here in regards to the
college basketball and college football. But I'm really intrigued to
see what happens with Bill Belichick at U and C,
because you and C is not a program that has
bought into NILS. Now they I want to say, they're nil.

(01:14:18):
Pool right, is solid but not competitive in college football.
So it's Bill Belichick. What what is you and C selling?

Speaker 5 (01:14:30):
You?

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
And C selling is selling Bill Belichick and Michael Lombardi,
they're selling NFL coaches. So come to you and see
be coached and get the experience as if and we're
going to prepare you for the NFL like no one other.
But they don't have the dollars. Steve, So I'm really like,

(01:14:52):
I find the whole Bill Belichick, you and C situation
fascinating to me because now we're really gonna see how
good of a coach is Bill Belichick because he's not
going to have the top tier players because UNC does
not have the money that the other teams have to

(01:15:14):
bring in the top players. But is Bill Belichick's coaching
going to take you in, see over the top and
get them into the postseason? To me, that's going to
be one of the biggest storylines heading into next college
football season.

Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
Well and rightfully so he'll be on our microscope. I mean,
he's made that the situation for himself by doing that
all right right now, Texas Tech leading Florida fifty to
forty six, thirteen and a half minutes to go in
the second half in that game, we'll put a little
bow on this one. When we come back. This is
Fox Sports Saturday. Steve Harven Anina marks Fox Sports Saturday.

(01:15:49):
We're coming live from the tierraq dot Com studio. So
I'm gonna thank our crew today. Martin, of course, who
goes from updates to his own show, it just to
shifts seats. That's the way he does it around here,
which is it's always brilliant. Mary mac good spins today.
She changes things up week to week. I never know
what she's gonna throw.

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
I was just I was just thinking that. I was like, wow,
music's been like really like hot today, Like.

Speaker 1 (01:16:16):
Well, either she plays along with me or she goes
completely opposite me, and today it's obviously completely opposite. Not
that I'm not getting an education, thank you very much.
And of course Ian as our brilliant producer. You know,
we had all kinds of things starting at the start
of the show. I told you it's gonna get fixed.

(01:16:37):
That's what happens. That's that's what we call producing this show.
Great job.

Speaker 3 (01:16:40):
I think it was.

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
I think it was my fault.

Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
No, it's never your fault.

Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
No, No, I really.

Speaker 1 (01:16:44):
Am right now. Texas Tech leading Florida fifty five to
fifty three.

Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
I'm nervous. No, I laid the six and a half.
I'm not nervous. I'm not scared.

Speaker 1 (01:16:57):
You get twelve minutes to go. It's a lifetime in bass. Hey,
I know you brought this up earlier when we were
talking to Mark Medina about the stephen A Lebron James thing.
I've worked with stephen A. He actually was here at
Fox Sports Radio for a time and we did shows
together and he was great. You know, he's a very
different personality, you know, in person than he is on television, which,

(01:17:21):
by the way, is not uncommon. I always like when
people say, gee, you're the same obnoxious person everywhere. It's amazing.
But anyway, see here, here's why I go against stephen
A in this thing. Was was Lebron James right to
confront him in public? And the answer is no, he wasn't.
I mean, he knows stephen A. Smith obviously, and he

(01:17:43):
could have called him and said, dude, I'm not happy
with you. It would never have been public. But stephen
A is the one that escalated this thing. I mean,
he could have been asked about it and he could
have said, you know whatever, you know, Lebron said to me,
is between us, and that could have been the end
of it, but then it became a back and forth
because you know, it's sort of your instinct, you know,

(01:18:04):
when you're a high profile guy, highest profile guy in
a sports network, obviously making more money than anyone else,
and you're under immense pressure to get people to talk
about you. One way to talk about you is to
hook your horns to the biggest name in the NBA,
who is Lebron James. So my feeling was is that,
you know, some people are trying to lay blame at

(01:18:25):
Lebron's feet. He wasn't right to do what he did
in the beginning, but everything that's happened since then, to me,
is right at the feet of Stephen A. Smith.

Speaker 2 (01:18:36):
At any point in time since this has all gone down,
have you for one second taken a step back and
said this is all staged?

Speaker 1 (01:18:46):
Well, what for?

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
Be honest, but for one second, have you ever.

Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
Said, you know what I think in the beginning, yes,
but at some point it's like, all right, you know,
it's getting old, Like I mean, initially interesting because yeah,
you got confronted and then you had a little comeback,
and but then then then it's just you know when
you talk when you're going on somebody else's show and
talk about, yeah, you know, I would have taken a

(01:19:11):
swing at the Guys.

Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
Show though, Steve.

Speaker 1 (01:19:14):
I know Pat McAfee, I know.

Speaker 2 (01:19:16):
Who is the who's a fellow employee, step A Smith.

Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
And I mean when he says, yeah, if Lebron had
put his hands on me, I would have taken a swing,
Like really, really would you have?

Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
He would have got his butt kicks.

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
Well, first of all, stephen A would not do that,
Like I said, what that's That's That's why I'm throwing
it out there because again, as someone had interaction with
Steven A, did some shows with stephen A, that's not
who he is at all. He's just not I mean,
that's that's a TV persona thing like you say, playing
up to Pat McAfee. Who doesn't he have w W

(01:19:56):
E tyes Pat McAfee. He's out night wrestling ring, I believe.

Speaker 2 (01:19:59):
So, I here's the thing, really quick, I know we
only have a few seconds. These are two men that
are at the top of their game in their selective fields.
What are you doing? This is beneath you.

Speaker 1 (01:20:11):
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