The Fellas with Anthony Gargano & Kevin Figgers talk NIL Fiascos, NFL Draft, NBA Playoffs & MORE!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 3 (00:38):
Fig Welcome back, my.

Speaker 4 (00:40):
Brother, because always a pleasure. Brother. How are thanks always
always always good?

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Just getting ready for some draft?

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Oh yeah right, you got the NBA playoffs baseball. I'm
sure I was curious about you got about how you're
feeling because out there you got two teams, and you know,
Lakers and Clippers are both interesting because the West is
pretty wide open. You know, O Case, he's terrific. But

(01:10):
a team like the Clippers I think could be dangerous
now that they're healthy. I was curious what you think
because I look at the Clippers and I go, you
know what, that's a team that actually can make a run.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
Definitely, and they fly under the radar because obviously the
Lakers make the big splash with Luca and incorporating him,
and people forget, Yeah, Kawhi Leonard when he's healthy is
probably a top five player in the NBA. He just
doesn't get talked about much because quite honestly, he's not
on the court that often. But he's been back, he's
been healthy these last thirty or so games. He's been
playing amazingly and they've won what six seven games in

(01:45):
a row at this point in time, and just the
way that they're built, They're built like your modern NBA team.
You have your superstar on Kawhi Leonard. James Harten has
had a resurgence this year. I just had a triple
double the other night. Norm Palell has been a great
third option, and Zubots has been is one of the
better big men in the entire league that doesn't get
talked about. So they have depth, They have depth on
the wing, They have guys who can create for themselves

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and other people. They just don't get talked about a lot.
They fly under the radar because after the last couple
of years when it was Kawhi and Paul George and
they were thought to be a perennial Western Conference contender
every single year, and that obviously didn't flush its way
out because both of those guys dealt with so many
different injuries. I think they just kind of fell by
the wayside and people just stopped paying attention to them.
But all of a sudden you mentioned the bunched up

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Western Conference. At this point, I like the Clippers' chances
as good as anybody's out West. I like Oklahoma City too,
but as great of a regular season as they had,
I can see a scenario where the Clippers beat Oklahoma City,
or the Lakers beat Oklahoma City, the Golden State Warriors
potentially beating them in a matchup as well. This is
as wide open of a conference I can remember in

(02:49):
the Western Conference of the NBA for a long, long
streat of time.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, man, I was thinking that too, because it's funny
the East has I think no trauma, right, I mean,
you get two teams, and probably it's going to be Boston.

Speaker 4 (03:03):
I think Cleveland could give him a run, but I mean,
if you, if you tell me make a prediction right now,
I'm taking Boston. But it certainly wouldn't surprise me if
Cleveland made a run with them.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
For sure, yeah, and I and I think it's and
that's it. I don't think there's anybody else that could
beat Boston other than the Cavs.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
No, not, not in the least bit.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Not the Knicks.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
No, the Knicks can't be anybody over five hundred. That's
been their issue all year long. So, right, when you
get into the postseason and you play nothing but good teams,
that's not shaping up well for you.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Now I'm looking at it and I'm going and that's
it's gonna be weird because we just come off a
tournament that I thought was great and I thought it
was electrified.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
I love this tournament.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
I enjoyed it, probably more than I had in the
past ten years. This tournament. Yeah, I thought it was
interesting basketball. At times, it was really good basketball. You know,
we saw our fair share of some rock fight moments, right, Yeah,
But it was a great tournament and it was good.

(04:04):
And it's satiated in a year that I missed basketball
because I just didn't think the NBA was good, was quality.
I felt satiated by the tournament.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
Yeah. Well, there was a lot of great play in
the I guess the issue that a lot of people
had is that there weren't a lot of upsets, There
wasn't a lot of drama.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
There weren't a.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
Wholehole lot of buzzer beaters. But for me, I enjoyed
the fact that we had four number one seeds make
it to the final four, that the best of the
best all season long actually got a chance to score
off against each other on the biggest stage. That's what
you want. You don't want to see, and I don't
want to disrespect anybody, but no one wants to see
George Mason play Murray State in the Final four or
the Elite eight. So upsets are great until they're not.

(04:47):
And the fact that we didn't get really many of
substance or any of substance maybe took a little bit
away from this year's tournament, Anthony, But to your point,
it just meant that the better teams made it deeper
into the tournament and faced each other, and we just
saw more quality back basketball. I mean, the final four,
both games were close, and generally speaking that's not the case.
It really hasn't been the case in recent memory. But

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it was close because you had all four quality teams,
the best teams in the country, squaring off against each
other on the biggest stage. So I agree with you.
This is probably one of my favorite tournaments in recent
memory because we had the best of the best make
it to the very end and play at a high level. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah, I have to say I didn't miss the Cinderella thing.
I didn't know over the years, I thought it was deluded.
I thought there was so much parody, that Cinderella wasn't
a true Cinderella, and that you know, she got around
too much.

Speaker 4 (05:41):
Yeah it was. She wasn't special, man.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Cinderella is only special if she comes around every few years, right,
every once in a while, makes a run to the
you know, sweet sixteen elite a you know once the
way it was it was two months it was again,
I thought, not special. Yeah, and that's why I like

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the four to one seeds and I'd be fine with
it for a while.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
Just give me good basketball, you know.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
I think this is gonna be more of the norm
as we get into this nil situation. If if we
want to get into the Nico iam Aliava thing, we
can at some point today. But from a basketball standpoint,
and even in football, what's happening now is these mid majors.
You know, if you're a good player for Liberty or something.
Let's just say, and you had a good showing in

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the tournament or your conference tournament. Well, what's to stop
BYU who has a lot of influx of money nowadays,
or Old miss or Michigan State for saying like, hey,
why don't you transfer out and come join us. So,
these mid majors that would make these deep runs usually
are senior leaden teams from you know, non Power five
schools who have a lot of experience, and because they

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have that cohesion, they end up beating teams that are
kind of throwing together at the last minute or have
a super freshman. You're just not gonna see that a lot.
What you're gonna end up seeing is great players are
really good players from mid major programs are now gonna
be poached by Power five programs and just gonna bump
those up more and more while taking away from the
group of five. So I think what we're gonna see
in the NCAA tournament moving forward, at least until more

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of this nil situation transfer portal situation gets flushed out,
I think you're gonna see more and more of the
blue buds and the higher seeds making deeper runs in
the tournaments and less and less upsets.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah, I totally see that the landscape is about to
change further because there's gonna be some rulings. Here's the
one thing, and I guess we'll get it to the
n ECO thing shortly. But here's the one thing. I
don't know how they're gonna get a handle on this cap.

(07:48):
They were talking about a twenty million dollar cap. Yeah,
that's it's impossible. You got these quarterbacks, they're gonna eat
up so much of this stuff. It's impossible to have
a cap where you're gonna run. You think SEC is
gonna be okay with you know, having a cap for

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basketball and football now, of course not well.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
And the way there's gonna be ways to circumvent this
that there always is. So you're gonna have the twenty
million dollars that if the programs are gonna get based
on the house settlement that's gonna be settled here within
the next few months. It seems like, yeah, on top
of nil deals. So you're gonna have these nil collectives
talking to the universities and say, all right, we'll get
reach get a couple of million from this pot. Get

(08:33):
a couple of hundred thousand from this pot. Let's throw
it at this guy, see what he can get. And
so it's gonna be very interesting the inner workings of
NIL and these collectives with these individual schools and the
actual money that the schools get themselves, and how they
melt those two things together to try to put together
their roster, really buy their rosters. This is all free
agency at this point in time. That's all it is.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Yeah, And it's gonna be interesting because you go, all right, well,
the best kids, right, the most pot, they're going to
get paid because they're going to Their brand is going
to going to command that, right. But there's gonna be lawsuits.
Well it's not fair. Well what about this athlete. It's

(09:23):
just so muddy. I don't know how. I don't know
how they come to some sort of some sort of
conclusion with this thing. I don't know there's going to
be any kind of rules or anything in place.

Speaker 4 (09:36):
The only thing that I can think of, and I
still think we're all ways away from this and all
of this is going to be caught up in court
battles for the next few years. I do wonder if
at some point in time, College football, and maybe to
a certain degree, college basketball will be tougher because the
tournament is run by the n c double A and
they're trying to hold on for dear life for whatever
power they still do have. But whether these guys are

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allowed to unionize and whether they become basically professionals at
that point time and they actually negotiate contracts and get
a piece of TV revenues, because then now all of
a sudden, if you have a collectively bargained situation, now
you can talk about a salary cap and how much
money can be given to a certain players or it's
a certain to entire roster as you have it.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
I don't want anything to do with that.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
Oh, I know they don't. But this thing gets caught
up in the courts more and more and the more
and more money that these universities end up making, uh,
and at the expense of the kids overall. I think
that's the closer and closer we're getting to this. The
n CUAA is already is as toothless as it has been,
as it ever has been. It's alwaying its power day
by day. So I think ultimately that's what's gonna end

(10:38):
up happening. How that actually envisions, you know, what ends
up looking like. I don't know, but I do think
that's going to be the ultimate end game.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
It'll be their own separate organisms with their own commissioners.
Like you know, you always hear about Nick Saban as
a possible commissioner or Coach k as a possible you know,
basket ball commissioner, where the NCAA basically goes by the
wayside and the conferences have all the power, and.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
You could totally envision that.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
The other thing that is that I heard was that
you'll see these billionaire professional sports owners come in to
play here heads funk guys the whole thing and the
license the college program. So you let's take Josh Harris

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who owns the Commanders and the Sixers and the EPL team.
He could go to Ohio State and say, all right,
I'm going to lease Ohio State football and I will
run it under my enterprise. You know, within you're buying
in for ten years and there's some sort of rev

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share between you know, the owner and the university.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
I look, I mean, I feel like this is that's
where this is going. Because even big business owners like
Josh Harris, Like, they know the giant revenue coup or
should say the giant revenue getter that the college football
is at this point in time. Look at the college
Football Playoff and how popular that was. That's only going
to continue to grow. So if you're able to basically invest,

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which is what this would be, you know you're going
to get a giant return on that investment because it's
a blue blood program and what it's gonna do. Unfortunately,
if you're a big college football fan, it's just going
to grow the divide even more and more so between
the halves and the half nots because those types of
owners are not going to buy into you know, smaller
They're not going to buy into NC State, no dis right, right,

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They're gonna buy Michigan, Ohio, State, USC, you know, Florida
like those are those are the So it's only going
to widen the gap even more, which is I think
is a little bit unfortunate. But unfortunately we know that
like this is the business, it's all about money. That
that's the most important thing. Is that's about competition and
more about the almighty dollar.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Yeah, it's it's it's wow, I have this conversation, uh,
yesterday with an A. D who's on the on all
these committees, and it's it's crazy, like the stuff like
they don't even know how this stuff's gonna want to
wind up we're dealing. And that I heard from from

(13:29):
that person that they were talking about colleges programs doing
deals with high school kids where they're paying him in
high school.

Speaker 4 (13:40):
Wow, well I don't even I mean, well, I wout
to think that in and of itself would be an
n C double A violation again as toothless as the
n C double A is, if you are paying a
kid who doesn't even play for you yet, how is
that not an improper benefit? You're basically that's a. That's
that's a that's recruitment. I'll give you one hundred grand this.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
Sign defensive end bonus, Like you're signed to play at
this university and you're going to get X amount of dollars.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
So you've already committed at that point as a high
school kid. You're saying you've committed to this school, and
for committed to this school, you will now be paid
even though you haven't suited up yet. That's what this
person said. Yeah, that's interesting.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
That's too sure they they're committed that they know they're
committed to you.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
Yeah, but the problem is, are are these actual binding contracts?
Because there's a kid I forget his name who just
transferred to Baylor and Baylor gave him a million dollars
or something like that, and in a week later he
transfers to BYU because they offered him three million dollars.
And it's like, well, all right, so what happens to
Baylor in that situation that opened up a roster spot

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and agreed to give this guy money. Who's to say
that a star defensive end can't get one hundred and
fifty thousand dollars from Penn State. And then all of
a sudden, here comes Ohio State saying like, oh, you
know what will give you two hundred and fifty thousand.
It's like, oh, yeah, forget you guys. I'm gonna switching
my commitment to these guys.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Well, the minute you catch the check, you're you're down
to that program, right, Like it's I mean, are you
signed the contract and catch the check if.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
It's actually a contract? And sure, but can you sign
a legal a contract if you're not an employee? Like
that well, well, if you're getting paid, but I don't know,
I mean, what is the what's the pin to paper?
What does that look what does that transaction look like?
Is the issue. That makes sense if you're an employee
and you're signing an actual employment contract. But the way
that the the these scholarships and the way that you're

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you know, being a student athlete, which is a ridiculous notion,
I just don't I just don't know how that necessarily flies.
Gods can transfer left and right every other day if
they want to to the highest bidder, and it's totally unregulated.
And these are not binding contracts. They're just right now,
they're just scholarships.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
But once you once you accept money, and you actually
accept the money, then that part of its binding.

Speaker 4 (15:54):
You would think, I mean, you'd have a lawsuit.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Your services are now required, like you have committed your
services to that university.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
Give you this. I'm not a lawyer.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
I'm sure all this stuff can be challenged and employment
contracts and everything else, but there I could just tell
you off this conversation that that's what they're talking about,
like too, so there's no more Hey, uh, you know

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you're a junior, right here's Figgie, junior in high school,
stand out linebacker.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
I want you.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
I would offer you whatever you get two million bucks.
You're we're gonna get a signing bonus two hundred thousand dollars. Yep,
you're a junior. You take the money, sign the contract.
You can't now, even if you're great, you can't now
accept No, no, no, look at this. Notre Dame's coming
after you. Now you can't do it?

Speaker 3 (16:58):
All right.

Speaker 4 (16:58):
Well, one thing that I will say, it's also because
it's also hard to bind a sixteen or seventeen year
old to.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
Something like that.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
But one thing that the Grambling State had football coach
said this last weekend, and I thought, it's a good point.
If you are reach a commitment with a player who
plays for your program or commits to your program, and
then he decides to leave for a bigger payday, that
program that he's leaving should be compensated somehow, whether it's
by taking a piece of the nil money from the

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kid or from the actual program itself, because at least
the school is getting something out of it. Recruiting. You
know this. You've covered college sports for a long period
of time. It's so hard it's so cutthroat, and you
think you put in all this legwork to get a guy,
even now that you've enticed in with money, he signs
his pen to paper, and then a week and a
half later he says, yeah, you know what, Sorry, these
guys are off for me one hundred and fifty thousand

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dollars more. Even you know you have there has to
be something else in it for the other school to
be able to let a guy go, because now you're,
you know, behind the eight ball, and you have a
roster spot that's now empty, and you had this guy,
this five star guy you committed to, who you thought
committed to you, and all of a sudden he's gone.
So this will ask me a better way to regulate something.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Why, it's just what's crazy? It's absolutely crazy?

Speaker 3 (18:14):
All right.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
So we got lots to do because we're gonna get
deeper into that conversation a lot of draft stuff. Oh
all right, So we're going to dive into a lot
of the NFL draft stuff. And you know, I mean,
it sure appears to me that Jackson Dart is going
to go.

Speaker 4 (18:33):
Ahead of Shudor Sanders. Wow.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
So if you're talking to a bunch of people over
the last week. That seems to be a certainty. We'll
get into it. We'll talk about that, We'll talk about
the Masters, Baseball, the NBA Playoffs, the NHL is fun time, right.
The Spring equinox is about to commence with the NFL
Draft Hits.

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Speaker 3 (20:11):
Cannot wait for it.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
By the way, fellas, come you live from the tire
rack dot com studios. What do you feeling, Let's talk,
let's get let's dive into a group going to go
all over the place. We'll dive back into what the
college sports landscape is. But it's a pretty heavy draft day.
My brother Yea, I talking a lot of people. I

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think Dark goes ahead of Shador.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
Now is that just because of his because shdra Sanders,
for you know, as great as numbers as he's put
up at Colorado and not having an offensive line, all
of that is well documented. Is this strictly because he
just doesn't wow you with anything, and he's just solid.
He doesn't have a strong arm, but it's good. He's
not a phenomenal athlete, but he's solid. He processes solid well,

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but he's not spectacular at it. And Jackson Dart's a
better athlete, has a stronger arm plate I guess at
a higher pedigree, higher competition in the SEC. Is that
you're why you're hearing that he's all of a sudden leaping.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Above all the above, all the above, and here's the thing,
like and again, you got to read through this stuff.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
I was funny.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
I was talking to somebody and we were having this conversation,
real good friend of mine in the league, and he's like, dude,
he goes, why the subject of mock drafts came up?
And he's like why, because why are you gonna answer
me a question? Why did people read that stuff and
take it as gospel? And I go, well, you know,

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it's more fun than anything else, right, And you got
guys that really know what they're what they're doing, right,
like you know Daniel Jeremiah. You know, guys that really
are into it, that are assessing talent and when they're
ranking prospects, that to me is more has more oomph

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than a mock right because a lot of it's beauty
in the eye of the beholder. How the board falls, right,
Like teams have had their board set for two months, right, right,
Like nothing's changed. Yeah, And so we were talking about
he goes, you know, it's funny, he said, the less
somebody talks about a player, the more they like.

Speaker 4 (22:31):
Them, right, Like, yeah, if you don't hear.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Any buzz about a guy, right, that's when you go,
all right, well there's there's definitely some some heat there
the shador thing. Evaluators have looked at him, and it's
less to do with I know, people talk about interviews
and that he's a cocky kid or confident kid. However

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you want to look at it, none of that. It's
more about he does it. You said, wow, yeah, right,
there's nothing that he does that wowser.

Speaker 4 (23:07):
Right, which means here's what he does.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
And talking to this person and I look, I've baldy
and I've done all the film for probably the top
two hundred players, so we've looked at all the film
and I you know, I mean you could see it.
I mean he throws a really nice deep ball like
he could he could drop it in a bucket down
the field. But his arms not great, Like it's not

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a it's not a plus arm that you go, oh
my god.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
He's not mobile. He's more of a pocket guy.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
So like, you know, what is he And he comes
from an offense that was not a real pro offense.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
Right where he made a lot of NFL throws.

Speaker 4 (23:51):
Yeah, Now that doesn't mean he can't be successful at
the next level. That doesn't mean he can't be a
really good player. I guess that the question is, does
that mean he should be taken in the top five
or top ten of the draft? Is what we're as
what we're saying, because I mean, the league is littered it.
History is littered with guys who have been successful without
super strong arms, without being fleet of foot. So he
can be a good player. He can beat Tua now.
Tua was taken in the top five I think it

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was sixth or seventh overall, but he landed with the
right offense, with the right players around him, and he's
turned himself into an above average NFL quarterback. And maybe
Chedor can do that if he's in the right situation.
When you're talking about drafting a guy in the top three,
top five, top six, generally speaking, especially at the quarterback position,
you're talking about a generational talent. Somebody that can come in,

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can be scheme diverse, can do whatever, make all the
deep throws, can really carry a team. And I don't
believe that Shrdor Sanders, as talented as he is. I
don't think Jackson Dart, at least right now, is that
kind of player either. They just happen to get artificially
bumped up because their quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
Yeah even can right now.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
I think people to cam Ward to go, yeah, like
he's a legit prospect and he's the best prospect of
this group, but he's pumped up because of this group.

Speaker 4 (25:05):
Right thousand percent. And I don't know philosophically, there's some people, Anthony,
who look at and say, take a quarterback until you
find one, until you find the right one. You know,
just draft a guy. It doesn't matter if you overdraft him.
If it's a team need and you think he can
be good, do you want to work with him? Then
find And there's others who say, like, well, just stay

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true to the board. If there's not a quarterback who
knocks your socks off and you have the first, second,
third pick in the draft, you don't just take a
guy for the sake of taking them because you feel
you need to fill that position, because you can miss
out on a generational talent. I mean, I look at
the forty nine ers from a few years ago and
it was different. I know they traded up for Trey Lance,
who's now one is what third fourtheen whatever it is
after signing with the Charges this week. But I mean

(25:47):
the players that they passed up. He is ridiculous in
that draft. Jalen Waddle, Pene Sewell Pats or Tan Jamar Chase,
all these guys they could have had, but they traded
up for Trey Lance, who didn't play for a year,
had sat out the COVID season, didn't play against great competition,
but they fell in love with the metrics and all that,
and all of a sudden, the guys on the verge

(26:08):
of not being in the league because you felt the
quarterback position was important enough to take to reach on
a guy. I don't know what camp you fall on, Anthony,
but for me, unless I'm sure about somebody, I'm not
gonna be I'm not gonna take him that high in
the draft. I'm not the top five. There's too much,
there's too rich with talent for me to take a
flyer on someone who I'm not one hundred percent sure
about or at least eighty.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
Right, And that's the point. Are you going to pass
up Abdual Carter, Travis Hunter? Right, Mason Graham right? Are
you gonna you're going to pass that up?

Speaker 4 (26:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (26:41):
Those kids you know Travis Hunter is legit abdual Carter,
and you know, the Eagles just showed you how you win. Correct,
Eagles show you how to win because you went into trenches.
Speaking of which, I gotta go off topic for a
second because I had uh I was. I had dinner

(27:03):
with some of the Eagles people this week and they
were talking about we're just talking about the run and everything,
and I thought one of the really interesting byproducts that
they were talking about is they were so physical, they
were so they were so nasty too, Like you know,

(27:27):
just to to put it like that, that teams tapped out,
They felt like teams were going to tap out at
some point during the game. Wow, that they really believe
that in the third fourth quarter at some point they
felt like other teams would tap out, which is is
when you go back and look at it, and having

(27:47):
covered that season pretty closely, that's the truth. Like those
long runs by Saquon a lot of times he was
just untouched, right and teams just had nothing. They were
they had nothing and left. And they said that they
knew they had identified Joe Tooney as the weak link,

(28:09):
like he had played really well when they kicked him
out to tackle right right. He really saved the Chiefs
bake in a lot of ways, but they felt like
he would not hold up and that that line could
not hold up against them.

Speaker 4 (28:22):
Yeah, well they wear you out because I mean they're rotating,
you know, five six guys in every other play that
you don't get a break, which is it boggles my
mind how other teams don't borrow or steal the Horry
Roseman method of how to build a team. You build
in the trenches. And people have been saying this for years.
Your offensive front, your defensive front, that's where you make

(28:42):
your hay Like if so, if you if you're a
team at the top of the draft and you have
let's say a stud defensive end and a stud defensive tackle,
take another one. You know, if you're the Raiders and
you have Max Crosby and you saw Christian Wilkinson who
got injured early last season, draft Mason Graham, do the
old Al Davis built strength on strength because I mean,
if you have a if it's a line that can
have deck and dominate a game. Who gives a rip

(29:03):
what your linebackers can do or your corners can do
when they only have to defend for a half a
second because the quarterback is running for his life and
the running back has no holes to run through. It
makes all the sense in the world. Oh yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
And it was interesting the level they also bought into it, right,
like you got to buy into it. The one thing
the Eagles have is really good coaching, like assistant coaches,
like you've heard of Jeff Stoutlin yep, who's their O
line coach. He's probably the best O line coach in football.
But they have, you know a number of these really good,

(29:39):
really good assistant coaches, veteran guys, you know, guys that
have been around that Alabama and Georgia and not just
the NFL.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
And one of the things that they.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
Said was that to a man like the NFL, week
usually goes like this, like on Monday, you come in
for treatment and once in a while, you know, depending
on the team, you'll watch you'll watch film and.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
Then get treating me and go home.

Speaker 4 (30:06):
Right.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
Well, they made it a workday and they would move
their off day on Tuesday. They had everybody catch their
off day on Tuesday. But instead of doing the Monday
Tuesday thing, they just did the Tuesday thing. And they
were putting on pads midweek, so when they were coming
back on Wednesday, they were putting on pads. In fact,
even during the playoff run, they were putting on pads.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
And I think they bought into that.

Speaker 4 (30:34):
Yeah, well it's part of it became part of their
identity thing. Yeah, it's part of their identity, you know,
of being a being a physical football team, which you
don't see nowadays. Everybody goes away from you know, padded
practices and taking time off and getting guys rest, which
is fine, and it can work. That's fine. I mean, look,
Bill Walt did that way back in the day with
the forty nine ers. He wants to make sure his
guys were fresh. Hedn't want to beat his beat, have
his team beat each other up during the week. So

(30:55):
it worked for them. The Eagles have found a system
that works for them, might not work for every And
I think you brought up a good point too that
gets overlooked because it's kind of sight unseen for a
lot of people who just kind of chime in on
Sunday and watch games. The importance of your assistant coaches,
usually when dynasties start to crumble, is because your assistant
coaching pool starts to get diluted, and your your coaches

(31:18):
get poached and you don't replace those coaches with coaches
who are as good as them. You know, being able
to surround yourself with the right assistance is so key
to success in the NFL, and I think it's something
that goes off and overlooked because a lot of fans
and players, a lot of fans just don't see who
the old line coach is, or who the quarterbacks coach is,
or who the linebackers coach is. All those guys make

(31:39):
such a huge difference in the development of the players
within the systems that they're playing in. And the best
organizations are the ones who are able to lose those
coaches like a Jonathan Gannon and then bring somebody else
in to replace him and not fall off.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
Yeah, now they have a we'll see, because right they
lost their another see yeah, Kellen Moore, that's right, and
Kellen who had come in and remember two years ago
they fell off.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
They were ten and one and.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
Slid and had had a catastrophic end of the season, right,
so much so that that Nick Serryani was about to
be fired. That's right, that's right, Right, and you know,
I do think he was parlously close to being fired
this year after they were two and two and had
the bye week, Like all that smoke around Nick getting

(32:34):
fired was real wow, like that was being talked about.

Speaker 4 (32:39):
And now all of a sudden, he wons a super Bowl.
He's been the Super Bowl. He's going to get a
giant extension. He's probably gonna be lauded as one of
the best coaches in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
Yeah, in a while.

Speaker 4 (32:49):
It's so fickle. It's just so crazy how that works.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Yeah. Yeah, but you look at last year. They lost
their OC Shane Stiken when he be came to coach
to the Colts, and uh they lost both their coordinators
right because you mentioned Gammon and it hurt them last
two years ago. So this year, you know, so Kellen
Moore came in and he did a great job. Now

(33:14):
he leaves to go to the coach the Saints. He
also takes nuss Meyer, who I love is the fact
he's the father of Smeer cor And uh so nus
is going to be his OC with the Saints. Kevin
Petullo is going to be the new OC for the Eagles. Now,

(33:36):
again that's a new play caller j Jalen hurts another OC.
So that's you know, I mean that's going to be
their challenge, which is it? But you know it's to me,
it's fascinating about, you know, buildings. So we talk about
the draft and we talk about quarterbacks. To bring it
back to full circle, you know, you pass up Abdul Carter.

(33:59):
There's a price there. Yeah, absolutely, And look.

Speaker 4 (34:02):
Maybe you hit a home run and cam Ward turns
out to be Jaden Daniels or something. I don't know
if that's going to do. That's gonna happen, but it's
a giant risk to take with someone who is not
lauded as a generational prospect. You know, you can draft
the Trevor Lawrence and he can have his inconsistencies and
injury issues and you can live with that because people
said if Trevor Lawrence had come out the year before,
he would have been the first overall pick. He was

(34:23):
seen as a generational talent. That was consensus. Everybody saw that.
Andrew Luck, whatever name you want to throw out there.
But when it's this, when you're saying cam Ward, if
you're looking at the total board and cam Ward is
the eighth best player regardless of position, and you're taking
them first. Overall, I really just questioned the decision making
and taking him just because you need a quarterback. If

(34:43):
you're a team as bad as Tennessee, you need a lot. Yes,
the quarterback is the most important position, but if you
miss on that position. By the way, when you swung
and missed on what three of your last four first
round picks, I think it's been already. You can't afford
to take a risk that high and have it not
pay off for you. So I would go with the
safer ride out or just take the better player, the
better prospect.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
The other aspect of to what your point is is like,
if your line's not intact.

Speaker 4 (35:07):
But differences to make right, Yeah, like you're gonna kill
your quarterback and he's gonna get bad habits right and
you're gonna derail him.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
You're you're better off building something a foundation before you
add the quarterback.

Speaker 4 (35:23):
I agree. I know it's hard to find a young, generational,
great quarterback, but you can make yourself good because if
you make yourself a competitive team, you know, if and
when a quarterback comes available via the trade market or
what have you, then you can put yourself in a
position to move up and make those sort of moves
or like look at Hurts. Yeah, second round.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Pick right, like you know, and people think he was
overdrafted in the second round.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
I remember that. You're right.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
So you know, if you build the foundation you can,
you can. You know that's gonna help you and that
helps develop him. Having a line like that helps develop
him as aquarterback.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
No doubt. All right, we had to take quick too.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
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(36:25):
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Always good stuff happening right there. Fig Masters. Uh curious
the amateur who whizzes in raised Creek.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
Yeah, which is.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
By the way, you know, a hero to all the
common men. And and I'm sure right.

Speaker 4 (36:55):
They probably think it's kind of a need to the
nuts to all the pretentious people, you know, right, certain.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
Degree, all the hackers, the weekend hackers.

Speaker 4 (37:03):
All they go, yeah, bro, yeah, are.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
You surprised that nothing happened.

Speaker 4 (37:11):
I was, especially for a institution that takes itself as
seriously as the Masters does. And this wasn't like, you know,
Bryson didn't do this. There was an amateur kid who
just came up. And by the way, I understand why
he did what he did. It's like, look, man, I
don't want to leave the green, I gotta go. And
you know, he probably didn't really understand the impact of
it at the time, although the.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
Fighting is I don't think he think he. I think
he thought he was much more shrouded.

Speaker 4 (37:38):
Correct, yes, had more of a cover. But let me
break a secret to you there. Man, you're playing in
the Masters. There are cameras everywhere, like literally everywhere. You're
not gonna hide. I do thought find it funny that
when he did his post his interview after the round
and they asked him if he do it again, he says, yeah,
if I was in that situation, I'd do it all
over again. So clearly no remorse he had. When you

(38:01):
had time to digest the entire moment about what happened,
he was like, no, I had to go, and I
had to go, so I did my business there's a
part of me, Anthony that respects that.

Speaker 6 (38:09):
To be honest, I know, dude, you gotta go. You
gotta go, man, what are you gonna do? I mean,
it's what it is, man. It was great. What's your
opening thoughts? This is uh movie Day?

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Saturday at the Masters, Justin Rose in the lead at
eight on their d Chambeau looks great.

Speaker 4 (38:28):
He was amazing, right, Rory was tremendous.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
Right, he had that bad luck on Thursday where he
finishes with the two doubles and comes back yesterday on fire.

Speaker 4 (38:42):
Yeah. Well, the funny takeaway from Friday was Scheffler, you know,
on eighteen, just sitting in the shrubbery like how the
hell did I get here? But I think it's really
cool that Justin, Justin Rowse has gotten off to a
great start, even and even with him being having a lead,
he still I think has like a third or a
fourth best odds to you to come out on top

(39:02):
and the end actually win the tournament. I'd be excited
to see Bryson Deshambau knowing that we don't have Tiger
in the mix. You're really the only guys you can
ride home at this point are Bryson, r Rory are Scotty,
who's obviously the best in the world. So to see
some of the heavy hitters towards the top of the
leaderboard right now, and really a tight leader board at
this point, I think is really cool and encouraging for
a sport. To be honest with you.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
It is, and I think it's gonna I think it's
going to really make for a fund a really fun Sunday,
I hope.

Speaker 5 (39:32):
So.

Speaker 4 (39:33):
I think that's what we're all hoping for, because I
think the average person really only tunes in on Sunday.
And you know, if you have some of the heavy
hitters who you've heard of the top, toward the top
of the leaderboard, competing for a chance to win the
Green Jacket, I think that's all you can ask for.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Yeah, could you imagine if it's you're sitting there on
Sunday and you got those all those heavyweights coming.

Speaker 4 (39:52):
At it, you'd be amazing.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
We're the fellas, all right, big al we're coming up
next to the draft.

Speaker 4 (39:58):
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Speaker 2 (40:04):
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Speaker 2 (40:35):
All right, So let's do this, my brother, we got
because we're all over the place.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
First hour.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
I feel like I got a million things to talk
to you about, so we're kind of just kind of
rushing everything in.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
Let's go since this is the last week in the NBA.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
NBA this hour, then NFL Draft next hour before we
do the culmination.

Speaker 4 (40:57):
Perfect, all right, Yeah, because.

Speaker 3 (40:59):
I need to order.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
I'm in order because I tend to what I tend
to have many many jumbled thoughts, Like I have like
eight projects going on right now, So that's kind of
what I do.

Speaker 4 (41:15):
Right Any that you care to talk about at the
moment goes at all close to the vessels right now? Yeah,
that's all right.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
I don't know what I mean. Once close I be.
I've been hearing that for a while, so I jinx
it all the time.

Speaker 4 (41:33):
Yeah, we don't want to do that.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
All right, I like, and this one's pretty pretty good.
So whatever I'm going to jinx it, I'll just keep quiet.
It's my wife says the middle of time. You know,
you tell too many people and it doesn't happen.

Speaker 4 (41:51):
You put it out into the universe and the negative
spirits grab onto it and then all of a sudden, right.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
Yeah, he's like, stop shut up, you know, and before
you start the next project, let one kit. All right,
So let's let's get into this, into the NBA, because
this season ends tomorrow and I want to know in
your mind. Let's talk about because when you filled in

(42:18):
the first time for Fitsie, we got into it a
little bit with the NBA and kind of where it is.
I struggle with it because I thought that this was
a league that.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
Too many guys not playing.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
I mean, I get the three thing right, and it
may not be as esthetically pleasing, but you know, I
get the correct the math of it all, like why
it was like that and why you would deploy that.
But where do you think the league is right now?
Just like and it took from a totality standpoint, I.

Speaker 4 (43:00):
Actually think it's pretty healthy. I don't know the exact
numbers off the top of my head, and I think
I may have brought this up to you when I
filled in for FITZI a few weeks ago. You haven't
really seen a lot of guys very often this year
missing games for low management purposes is mostly because they've
been legitimately injured, or maybe it's four games and five nights.
I know the Lakers rested a few guys one time,

(43:21):
because the NBA doesn't even allow that anymore. It was
just a unique situation because they had rescheduled games because
of the fires in LA. But considering the amount of
star power, if I just look at the Western Conference
by itself, we talked about how the East is going
to be a runaway between Cleveland and Boston. But you
look at someone the caliber of Shay and how great
he is. You look at Luka Dancik turning around the

(43:41):
Lakers that he has. Lebron is still playing as good
as ever or as well as ever at age forty.
Jokic averaged a triple double this season, third player ever
to do that. Kawhi is back healthy, Steph Curry's reinvigorated
with Jimmy Butler as his teammate Anthony Edwards. Even though
the Minnesota maybe is having not as great of a
year as they thought they would, still going to be
get forty eight forty nine wins. They still have one

(44:03):
of the young faces of the league, Anthony Edwards. If
you know Memphis with you know John Moran, if he
can stop with his ridiculous you know celebrations, is a
phenomenal player who knows what they can do. So I
look at the individual talent and the teams that are
going to be competing in the postseason. You have a
lot of really intriguing matchups, regardless of how it ends
up coming together with a lot of great star power,

(44:24):
and thankfully all of these guys of meeting of note
are all going to be healthy going into the postseason,
which is a rarity. So I think, you know, aside
from the three pointers in what's syesthetically pleasing and the
stigma of load management, I really think for the first
time in a long time, the NBA overall is at

(44:45):
a pretty healthy spot with its star power and with
these playoff, potential playoff matchups that we have coming up.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Yo, It's fascinating, right, It's all about the vantage point,
Like where you sit. You see that right where I sit.
And maybe it's because I'm on the East coast. I sit,
I see the opposite. I see an Eastern Conference with

(45:14):
no stars. I see one team. I don't think Cleveland
could beat Boston. I think I have a chance. But
that's it as far as load management is. I haven't
seen my starting five since October.

Speaker 4 (45:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
I look around, and you know, teams like Utah and
I feel like everybody's tanking. I mean Walker, they sat
Walker Kessler healthy for how many games in a row,
Like he's Elija one.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
I mean, give me a break. I just see just
trash like.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
Brooklyn, the Sixers, Toronto, Miami. I look at all these teams.
I just it's just ross. Yeah, nothing interesting, right, nothing interesting,
not in the East.

Speaker 4 (46:07):
Well, and to your and to your point, because that's
your you know, your your world, and especially the seventy
six Ers, who have had one of the most disastrous
seasons based on expectation coming into the year in recent memory.
You see a team that had all the expectation in
the world and guys are getting hurt, and guys are
sitting out because of thumb injuries and all sorts of stuff.

(46:28):
If you look at the worst of the league, I
can see how you can have that perspective for sure.
So if I flip it and look at the best
of the league and like, it's amazing. So I guess
to your point, it makes sense that you would say
it's a matter of perspective and it's never good. And
I can't remember the last time, Anthony. Maybe you you
can because you've covered the sport for such a long
period of time. It's usually one or the other. The

(46:49):
Eastern Conference or the Western Conference is really competitive and
could be a dogfight one through five, one through I mean,
for the for the for the Western Conference. This year,
I can legitimately say one through seven, one through six
at the very least has a shot of making out
of the Western Conference. It's rare that both conferences are
extremely competitive and you truly have no idea he's coming

(47:09):
out of either. That almost never happens.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
And it's like that.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
I think that's like that in every sport, like AFC, NFC.

Speaker 4 (47:16):
Yeah, the nl AL situation usually goes in cycles.

Speaker 3 (47:19):
Yeah, I mean, it's even less.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
And you know that's why I made sure to preface
my statements by vantage point, right, you know, and I
will say this, like I'm captivated by some of the West.
I mean, you're right, you know, the Joker is is
going to finish with a triple double average like that,
that's unbelievable, right, third player in the history of the

(47:46):
game to do that. I love ant Man a right,
So I love I love watching him. Luca and Lebron
is compelling. The Clippers are very good, Like they're just
a good bad Steph is still electric alright, Like Steph
still goes off. They're they're still good. Golden State they're interesting,

(48:13):
okayc is fun is.

Speaker 3 (48:16):
All get out. I mean they're really really good.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
So, like I I see what you see in the
Western Conference. Now do I think it's great ball? Like,
I don't think Minnesota is a great team. I love Edwards,
but I don't think that's a great team. I don't
think Denver is a great team. I don't think the
Lakers or the Clippers are great teams. Right, I think

(48:39):
they're good, and I think Clippers are good. I think
Clippers have a real good chance just to start that off.
Golden State, same thing I think they're I think it's missing,
it's missing a great it's it's still missing something.

Speaker 4 (48:57):
Yeah, well see that's and see that's where I see
the beauty of it. It's almost like an NFL model
where the NFL always wants parody. You don't know who's
gonna win, and so the fact that most of these
teams in the Western Conference from two through seven are good,
but none of them are great. I find that to
be interesting, compelling, and fairly entertaining. I would much rather

(49:17):
have a bunch of teams jumbled up together and I
don't know what's gonna happen than a FATA complete that
Cleveland's gonna play Boston in the Eastern Conference finals. That's
a I understand having two Juggernauts going at it, the
two best teams in the conference, and to a certain degree,
that's what you generally hope for. But I also enjoy
just the not knowing going into a playoff series and saying, like, yeah,

(49:38):
this three six matchup, if it ends up being the Lakers, well.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
You're spot on, I feel you. Yeah, you're spot on.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
And I guess I'm looking at it too critically.

Speaker 4 (49:49):
It's okay.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
I mean, like I watch, like I still watch the
league like people people here in like in my in
my city.

Speaker 4 (49:57):
Oh they've checked out, I'm sure.

Speaker 3 (49:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
They hate the game, they hate the sport, like they
can't find anything. Like they've got some NBA fans that
are just hardcore like us, but they're buying large.

Speaker 4 (50:13):
You know, most people care about their own team.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
Yeah, and they're also tired of the stars, right, Like
one of the issues is it's great that you know,
like Kilkes Alexander's is ridiculous, right, it's you know, Sga
is ridiculous player, but he doesn't have even a man
to some extent, Like they're not Lebron's staph, Like they

(50:37):
still look at it like Lebron's staph are still running
the league.

Speaker 4 (50:42):
The faces of the league for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
Yeah, and you're still kind of waiting for the next generation, right,
even though those guys are here.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
Do they have the bigness?

Speaker 2 (50:56):
Like I was talking to a buddy of mine who's
not a hater or anything, but he's like, dude, he goes,
I don't I don't feel the bigness of the league.
He goes, it felt big when it was Kobe on
a Sunday in March. He's like, forget, I'm not talking
about the playoffs. I'm talking about a Kobe Lakers in

(51:19):
March that felt big to me, right, and he goes,
I don't feel the bigness. Hey, you know it is
interesting because you know all those Sunday afternoons that happened
post Super Bowl, they're not those nationally doubleheaders.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
You don't see that anymore.

Speaker 4 (51:39):
Yeah, the juice is definitely not there anymore for whatever reason.
And look, someone who should be the face of the league,
but I think he has it working against him is
that he's not American. Is Jokic? I mean, yeah, multiple MVPs,
average triple double. But because he's humble and not charismatic,
it doesn't necessarily he's not above the rim. He's not
the most he's exciting to watch in is in his

(52:00):
own unique way, but not in a classic way that
we're used to consuming basketball, where it's it's Kobe, it's
Jordan above the rim, it's Lebron James bowling over people.
So it's just a different style of player and that's
really hard to embrace when he's not an American born
player and lacks that sort of natural charisma. So I
can see that part of it too, And why the

(52:21):
regular season games that mark the quote unquote marking games
aren't as big anymore. That's a good question because a
lot of these games, Like I mentioned, these players are playing.
Guys are not missing a lot of games this year.
In particular, the Stars for the most part, especially in
nationally televised games, have been playing. I did see that
the Luca return game to Dallas was the highest rated

(52:42):
regular season game this season so far for the league.
And that's for you know, a MAVs team that for
all intentsive purposes is not going anywhere, and you know
a Laker team that you know, the skies and women
at this point in time, and Luca bald out. So
there is a there is a clamoring out there, there's
a there's fanship for the league as a whole. When
you just watch a Western tea, just a middling Western

(53:04):
Conference matchup between the Lakers who are pretty much locked
in and the Maverick Mavericks who are fighting for a
play in spot to get that many eyeballs. So it's
there somewhat correct, Yeah, you know how you grasp that
every single week. And the interesting thing is so in
when the new NBA contract, the TV contract starts next season.

(53:25):
Once football season ends, NBC and Peacock are gonna basically
ride the momentum off of Sunday Night football and start
putting NBA games in that slot.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
And I wonder how that's gonna end up going, which
I think is smart. I agree, right, because one of
the things that you don't have is the like the slot,
the marquee slot. Yeah, like that's what makes football, right,
what makes football Besides, I mean, everybody loves the sport

(53:56):
and it's it's it's made for that. But the slot
also helps, right, you know, Thursday nights in your brain
like they cook over another night of the week.

Speaker 4 (54:09):
Yeah, that's what's hurting the NBA too. Thursday night was
TNT's NBA showcase. But then here comes the NFL, you know,
and just you know, bowling them over and rightfully, so
that's business.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
I do.

Speaker 4 (54:21):
I do the same thing if I were.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
You're right, You're right, because Thursday night T and T
doubleheader was a thing.

Speaker 4 (54:27):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
You know It's funny. When I was a little kid,
Monday night Baseball was a big deal, was it? Okay,
it was like a big deal, like Monday night Baseball,
And I know that Sunday Night Baseball at ESPN, but
it was like Monday Night, and I think it was
ABC trying to do the same thing off of capitalize

(54:49):
off of Monday Night. Football was trying to make Monday
Night of Sports night like it was Monday Night Baseball.
Friday night fights, I remember Friday Night fights.

Speaker 3 (54:59):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
I think it's important for a sport to have its
day like you're obviously you're gonna be playing all the days,
but to have a big day of the week that
you celebrate. Now, obviously the NFL has Thursday, Sunday and Monday.

Speaker 4 (55:18):
And Saturdays in December. They'll take as many days as
they can take. There's only so many days in the week,
An't that's the issue? Right? They'll take every day, really
will well, the Anthony Gargano original plan, they will take
every day of the week. So yes, yes, I still
wouldn't go for that, right, we have to create an
eighth day for these other sports to get in somewhere.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
But you know, it's funny. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
When I look at the health of the league, I
don't know, going into that big contract, is there enough,
Is there enough intrigue, drama, star power?

Speaker 4 (55:57):
Well, I mean that that ends up getting built organically
to a certain point. If Shaye continues on the upward trajectory,
which it looks like he will. You know, he's a
kind of a face of the league type. He has
a little bit of charisma to him. You know, Anthony
Edwards is only gonna end up getting better. And look,
maybe Shay and Ant end up outgrowing the teams they
play for, which is one thing that I hate about

(56:17):
the sport too, because you know, you have the salary
cap and you can pay your own guys more money,
and a lot of times that just doesn't matter. Even
with as global as the as the sport is, it's
no longer regional, it's no longer even nationals international. There's
still something to be said for a player playing for
the Lakers or a player wanting to play for the
Knicks or a major market franchise, and you just wonder

(56:41):
if it behooves the league as a whole. I know
it does whether or not it's going to end up
having one of these star players having to move somewhere
else for their from the for them really to ascend,
I know, and I think that helps. It helps the
league that Lebron James chose the Lakers in twenty eighteen
and that Luca got traded, you.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
Know, definitely. Do you think the league is too has
over expanded? There's too many teams?

Speaker 4 (57:08):
I don't. I mean, when is the last time they expanded?
I mean, I guess is when they what they added
the Pelicans. I'm trying to remember.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
I mean it's I've been number of thirty teams? Is
that too many? Because they're expanded again, They're probably going
to expand again.

Speaker 4 (57:23):
They will, you know, it's going to be Vegas and
somebody else, Vegas and Tennessee, Vegas and whoever. But the
last thing the league needs, I think is expansion. If anything,
contraction I think would actually help. I mean, look at
the bad teams we have now, Look how bad Charlotte
and Washington and Mike.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
And that's why I asked you. Do you think they
have too many bad teams or too many? They have
too many teams because of the sheer number of slop.

Speaker 4 (57:52):
Yeah, yeah they do. But the problem is, I don't
know how you combat that. You know, you're not going
to combine franchies, You're not going to the schedule is
going to be reduced, which means there's less gate revenue
and fewer TV, less TV revenue and all that. So
practically speaking, nothing's going to happen. But just theoretically speaking
to your point, absolutely, the product is for sure diluted, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
Which I think again that the aesthetics get hurt by
that big time. Yeah, And I will say that the
problem how do you get excited with like it's the
Wizards or the Sixers, right, or the or Charlotte, Like
do you have these teams that will just never win?

(58:40):
I was saying in this case, same conversation with baseball,
like the Pirates are just never going to win.

Speaker 4 (58:46):
You know, they don't even try. That's the issue. The
issue a lot of people have too is like Pittsburgh,
I think I heard a stat this offseason they've signed
They have not signed a free agent to a multi
year contract in like seven years now. Is that for
a free agents wanting to go there? It's like, I
don't know, if Pittsburgh opened up the pocketbook and offered
somebody a three year deal, I'm pretty sure somebody at
some point would take it. But there it seems as

(59:09):
if they're content with making their money, seeing, hoping, praying
every you know, five to eight years, they can build
up a decent enough young roster with the farm system
compete intil those guys end up leaving and getting big
contracts well without creating the actual infrastructure to be able
to compete on a year and year out basis. So
I think a lot of times people start blaming, like, oh,

(59:29):
it's small markets, we can't keep up. It's like, I
don't know, Tampa Bay's a small market. They keep up, right,
So I think the fault really lies in with the
ownership more than it does with the economics of the game,
and you know, the haves and the have nots. I
think that's where the issue lies. So I think if
you're a fan of a team like the Pirates or
the Reds who never win, or the Charlotte Hornets, and

(59:51):
granted the basketball is a little more difficult, you know,
depends on where you draft, who lands there, who stays there.
Getting free agents with the salary cap it's a hard
cap is really difficult. But in like Bajor League Baseball,
there's almost no excuse, right right, because the o't think
too is your mining talent? Correct? So that's the other
is all the time, right.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Right, It's not like the NBA where you got a
tank to get a shot at one player.

Speaker 4 (01:00:16):
Right, and that might not work out. You can try
to thank for five straight years and never get the
first overall pick, you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
Know, yeah, or you tank for you know, ten years
and you just completely screw it up.

Speaker 4 (01:00:27):
Yeah, you know you don't know anything about that though.
I hate them.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
I gotta tell you, I gotta love hate relationship with
my squad.

Speaker 4 (01:00:37):
At least in be it's going to be back to
start next year. Right.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Oh God, if they're ever going to trade them, now's
the time to.

Speaker 3 (01:00:45):
Do it now.

Speaker 4 (01:00:46):
I mean, you are selling as low as you possibly
can if you trade them right now.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
Yeah, here's the issue. It's it's you're correct, but they
need to change.

Speaker 4 (01:00:57):
I would agree with that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Like, that's the problem. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense
to trade a beat now he's worthless. But what you
do is you signal a change in the in the franchise.

Speaker 4 (01:01:09):
Yeah, we're starting over.

Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
Is it smart now?

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Because it's it's smarter just to ride it out with
Joe And it's not even his fault, right, Like, no.

Speaker 4 (01:01:18):
You can't control his you know, if he gets exact
or if his body's built that way.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
That's what the problem is is that you're so deep
into it the fan has just no faith. Yeah that
it almost the divorce needs to happen for both parties.

Speaker 4 (01:01:33):
Well, yeah, because now you've put yourself and you've tripled
down on it with the contract you gave to Paul George,
like embat First of all, I don't know if you
can give him away right now, considering the contract that
he has for the next five years. And then no
one's gonna takehim on Paul George's contract based on how
he played this year when he actually did play that's right,
you know. So the only person of value that you
could trade away is Maxie And why would you do that.

(01:01:56):
That's the only good player. That's the only player anybody
would actually show up to see right now.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
And the problem that you have, no you have no assets,
like you you can't build around and on the size
to guard right and you and you have McCain and
Quinon Grimes, She's played really well, but they're all they're
all guards, right, like you got no wings to build around.

Speaker 4 (01:02:15):
Yeah, the hard part is you don't see a real
way out when you have two guys who are ultra
injury prone and Joel and Bill probably he's never going
to be the same with the kind of injuries that
he's been having. And you're talking about I'm looking at
next year fifty five million, then fifty seven, then sixty
two and then sixty seven on a player option, which

(01:02:36):
he's not given up and I wouldn't either. Yeah, I mean,
you're in the ABYSS until twenty twenty eight, right now.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
Yeah, all right, let's take a look at we've looked
at big picture with the league coming up, Let's look
at who's got a real chance, right like, let's size
them up, and and really it's we're gonna just go
heavy into the West because we already know that.

Speaker 4 (01:02:57):
There's only two teams in the East.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
All right, but well let's look at them and take
a look because actually, I do think Nix Pistons would
be an interesting matchup.

Speaker 3 (01:03:05):
I like the Pistons because they try.

Speaker 4 (01:03:07):
Yeah right, they're young, and they're exciting. I think Kate
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Speaker 3 (01:04:30):
All right, brother, let's let's go into it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
So if OKC, we would agree, Okay, she's the favorite,
not a not a dramatic favorite, but a favorite.

Speaker 4 (01:04:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
They're just so deep man.

Speaker 4 (01:04:45):
Right, Well, I would say they're the favorite in the West.
I think in a seven game series, I will take
the Celtics over them. In the finals if they were
to meet up, but in the Western Conference for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
So you got them, and I think with you got
SGA and then you got incredible depth, right you know,
and you got guys that could shoot.

Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
They fit well, right, like.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
They's they do so many different things that I love
the way they're built.

Speaker 3 (01:05:15):
And it's amazing because they still have.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
A plethora of picks laughing right, it's a joke, Like
it really is, like they cracked the code or how
to build a team.

Speaker 4 (01:05:25):
Yeah, like that's the model, like I talked about, if
you're going to find a model in the NBA of
how to build a championship roster or a team that
can compete for a championship, do it the way Sam
Presty did it, by the way he organically built the
Thunder with Russell Westbrook, James Harden, Kevin Durant and here
we are, what ten years later, and he's rebuilt it
all of from the ground up with a completely new

(01:05:48):
supporting cast. And it's through getting Shave via trade for
Paul George. And granted they got Chitt Holmgren at the
top of the draft because they were bad that particular year.
But you hit on your pick you find guys like
Jalen Williams and Aaron Wiggins. You get Hartenstein. Lou Dort
was a guy they found in the second round. That's
how you build a winner. So don't tell me that
if you're a small market franchise you can't find a
way to win, that there's no formula, there's no way,

(01:06:09):
no way out for you. Because they've done it twice
and they'll past two decades, the Oklahoma City Thunder I
have built championship rosters two times in the last twenty years.

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
Yeah, and the same thing. Right.

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
The first time it was ridiculous, like you had three
the greatest players. You assembled three the greatest players at
at one time.

Speaker 4 (01:06:33):
Right, and the only reason you didn't keep them together
is because ownership didn't want to pay all of them. Right,
So they said, you can keep Sergeabaka or you can
keep James Harden, but you can't keep both, and so
they chose to keep Surge instead of instead of Harden.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
So all right, So if you have on one side,
you got OKC. Let's look at the contenders, right, Chase.
They're interesting, right, there's a lot of equal contenders. I mean,
I don't know if if I go Golden State or
the Clippers to me as the.

Speaker 3 (01:07:06):
Team best chance to take him out.

Speaker 4 (01:07:08):
I think from a matchup standpoint, I think the Clippers
probably have a better chance. They have the wing defenders,
they have a size advantage with or I don't know
if it's an advantage, but that the very Leaves can
match up with Chet Holmgren with Zubots, who I think
at this point in time, I think Chet is going
to be end up being a better player. But right
now Zubots is the better player. He is and he's tough.

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
He really is, like, he's physical, he'll rebound, He's a
tough play.

Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
He is a tough matchup for him.

Speaker 4 (01:07:35):
Yeah, So I think from just a pure matchup standpoint,
I think that if the Clippers were to play Oklahoma City, yeah,
I think I think Golden State can beat them too,
for many of the same reasons. But if it's between
the two of them, who is a tougher matchup for
Oklahoma City? I think the Clippers are at the moment.

Speaker 3 (01:07:48):
See I get and so three.

Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
I think it's those two teams that pose the biggest threat.
Because here's the thing about Golden State, it is they
have they got so much fire. They still have firepower, right,
and they and they're still veterans, like they know how
to win and they have like the Lakers, I you know,

(01:08:12):
obviously Lebron and Luca, but after that, I still go,
is that enough?

Speaker 4 (01:08:20):
I think it can be. I think people are still
sleeping on Austin reeves for whatever reason, which I found
it funny. I don't know if he saw what he
said the other night. He says, like, it's weird for
me to say, but when I see a white guy
playing really well in the NBA, it's hard for me
to even believe that he's that good. And this is
a white guy talking. So I don't know if he
gets slept on for that reason or not. But I mean,
he's been a twenty plus pointy game scorer for the

(01:08:41):
last two months. He's established himself as one of the
best third.

Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
Options in the entire week. Yes, you're right, you're spot.

Speaker 4 (01:08:48):
On, and the pieces around them, the key pieces. Dorian
Finney Smith is a three and D guy. You know,
Ruy Hatchamura more of a three than the D guy,
but he's certainly not a Siev defensively gave Vincent's turn
the corner off the bench for them, so they have
their requisite pieces if guys are making their open shots
around the big three to make a deep run for sure.

(01:09:10):
And just Luca, because he's such a great individual talent,
just raises the ceiling of any team that he goes to. Well,
now you drop him in on a team with Lebron James,
and now Lebron can save himself for the fourth quarter
before he has to go off. I think that's why
some people people, so many people are so optimistic about
the Lakers or what the damage they can do.

Speaker 2 (01:09:27):
The only thing is I, as I look at him,
I just don't think like I just like I like
the Clippers better, I like Golden State better.

Speaker 3 (01:09:37):
I like Denver better.

Speaker 4 (01:09:39):
Even though Denver, Denver can't stop anybody haven't been able
to stop stop uh.

Speaker 3 (01:09:46):
And I preface by saying, I know they had their issues.

Speaker 4 (01:09:49):
Yeah, I think if the Lakers, if they're a bad matchup,
well I think I think that. I think the Lakers
are a bad matchup for Denver right now because Denver
is nobody that can stick with Lukadanca, not a single soul,
And it was easier for them to slow down the
Lakers with Anthony Davis when he was there. But if
the Lakers played the Denver Nuggets in the series. No,

(01:10:11):
but the way that they've been defending in the scheme
that JJ Redick has rolled out the last couple of
times they've played Jokic. The last time specifically they played Yokic,
he had the worst game of the season. Now I
realized that's one of eighty two. But the defensive strategy
they deployed frustrated the hell out of him and he
could do nothing about it. On too. If you can
just frustrate him and take him out just a little bit,
and Luca's gonna light them up on the other end,

(01:10:33):
Like it might be come off as a hot take.
I don't know, Anthony, but looking at the matchup, if
LA played Denver in a seven game series, I could
see the Lakers playing that series in five games. Five games. Wow,
Denver is not the same team. Denver will be favored,
you know that. Uh okay, all right, they might be.
I will love those odds. I will take my ticket

(01:10:55):
to Vegas tonight because Gambley's not legal in California. I
will take that a trillion times over. This is not
the same difference. So you know, I'll defer to you. Yeah,
especial if they're gonna keep runing Ussell Westbrook out there,
who's just especially lately has been killing them. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:11:15):
What what what's been their what's been their issue?

Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
I know it was finally talking about buddy of mine
when they fired Malone, that they said that the vibes
were lost, that they lost their mojo.

Speaker 4 (01:11:28):
Well, I know the Athletic did a giant ride up
on this, and I think ESPND the exact same. And
it sounds like Calvin Booth and Mike Malone were kind
of at each other's throats over the last three years
or so. They won the championship, but that was still
amidst a lot of turmoil going on between the two
of them. I guess the players in the locker room
had sort of revolted to a certain degree against Mike

(01:11:49):
Malone because he's showed favoritism towards Yo Kitchen Murray, although
that typically happens with star players at times, so maybe
there's more to it than that. It sounded to me,
honestly that Josh Cronky, the owner, was just tired of
the bickering and infighting between Mike Malone, and Calvin Booth.
It seemed as if Mike Malone had lost the locker
room and they decided to follow the Memphis Grizzly philosophy

(01:12:11):
of look, if it ain't work, and why are we
going to wait until the offseason, just do it now,
and let's give David Adelman a shot and see what
he can do. If he's a guy that we tout
and think he could be a potential head coach candidate,
let him try now and see what happens. I think
it was really just arresting their franchise back and say,
you guys are arguing at bickering like children. We're trying
to run a professional sports franchise that's trying to compete
for championships. We're done with both of you. That's kind

(01:12:35):
of the way that I read it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:37):
Yeah, that farty.

Speaker 4 (01:12:38):
It's odd that you because Mike Malone by all accounts,
and he's a pretty high strung guy. I don't know
him personally or anything, but it works to a certain degree.
They just won a championship a couple of years like that.
But it's also a personality and you know this anthony.
It can wear on guys if you're a certain personality type,
and the team isn't built a certain way mentally, and

(01:12:59):
if things do start slipping a little bit, you know,
it doesn't take much for guys to tune a guy out.

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
Now, I mean, you know, it's TIBs. We've seen a
million times. Guys just they unless you have the team
that responds to you, they they'll just you're done right.

Speaker 4 (01:13:21):
And I think that was the issue, and so Calvin Booth,
I think was in the last year.

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
You see hockey every yeah, every three years, the coaching
turnover in the NHL. Oh my god, it's unbelievable. All right,
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Speaker 4 (01:14:24):
FIGI that's right, gearing up for a big one. And
so it's funny around all the hoopla surrounding Govechkin, you know,
breaking the goals record and all that. You forget like,
oh yeah, his team's actually really good. They probably win
the Stanley Cup. It's just so funny. How that's the
how that just is lost in everything. It is to me,
that's kind of all it seems to be.

Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
Oh yeah, and they got good. I mean it's funny
because they got good overnight out of nowhere. I mean
they were no good. They made they made a bunch
of trades. And that kid Produce, he came up, he
came on strong, like he each had a great year.

Speaker 3 (01:15:04):
You know, they they rebuilt that thing.

Speaker 4 (01:15:07):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
You know we were talking earlier about like having days
with the National Broadcast tn T. The Sunday after in
hockey is really good.

Speaker 4 (01:15:18):
Yeah, I mean, and I'll be honest with you, I
didn't even know that CNC had a Sunday afternoon hockey showcase.
Like that's how even like, so how well are they
marketing that to even me or the masses like for
people like to not even I know tnc had an
NHL package. I had no idea that their marketing their
market game was. It was a Sunday afternoon. I totally
missed it. No have you seen it all?

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:15:41):
I really haven't.

Speaker 3 (01:15:43):
Oh wow, It's just shame because they have a great like.

Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
Listen, the goat of all studio shows is TNT inside
the NBA. Right then you add you add them tournament
to the mix and like, to me, my favorite is
when the ad Jay Wright with Kenny and Charles, right, Jamie.
It was great because Jay's awesome and he's he's dry,

(01:16:10):
and he gives you the coaches and he works so
good with Barkley and Kenny.

Speaker 3 (01:16:15):
Yeah, and I'm a Clark fan too.

Speaker 4 (01:16:18):
Yeah all benfan of yeah Clark for a long time.

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
He's great. So that's a great show. I'll tell you.
The NHL T and T show is awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:16:30):
It doesn't surprise me because everything they do is top notch.
I mean, they're they're major League Baseball coverage.

Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
I think we get to the I love their that's
another great show. Ye with with a Rod Jeter and Poppy.

Speaker 4 (01:16:44):
I mean it's it's all you know, produced with the same,
you know, the same outlook. That's funny. They incorporate tweets
and memes and all sorts of they make it an
entertaining products. So it does not surprise me that the
NHL package is spectacular. But because everything they do over
there is top notch, it really is.

Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
Yeah, and the NHL is just like the same vein
yea as baseball and basketball. That's awesome, Like it's pull
businette is tremendous, Like they had that formula down right.

Speaker 4 (01:17:17):
And the funny thing is everyone tries to replicate it
and nobody can. You really can't.

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
You know what's nuts is that I enjoy the NBA.
I enjoy the the I just don't tell you like
the NHL. I love MLB, right. The only sport that
I don't really care for a bunch is the NFL.

Speaker 4 (01:17:40):
The NFL studio shows. That's how funny how that works? Right?

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
I mean the best sport, the sport that I can't
get enough of, right, yep, the sport that I watch
every second, but the studio show, Like I don't know,
I just I think it's there's two many of them.

Speaker 4 (01:18:00):
Well, there's too many of them, and we're there's such
a deluge of information about these games leading up to
Sunday that by the time you get to Sunday, I
just want to watch the game. Maybe that's kind of
how I feel about it at this point. And I
think there's the pregame shows, especially on the networks. Fox
and CBS have just lost some umph and I can't

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tell you why, but it's just not the same for
whatever reason, Fox used to be top and Fox is
still good, it's still solid, but it's not the same.
I don't know if it's the cast as older and
they're trying to roll in some new guys both and
both networks are I just don't it sounds bad to
say I don't care as much anymore. Just call me
at ten o'clock Pacific time when the first game kicks off.

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Then I'll check. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
Yeah, yeah, it's funny, you shaid. I'm kind of in
the same way. Yeah, And I don't know why. But
I don't know why. I think it's just too busy.

Speaker 4 (01:18:58):
Yeah. Well, it's also in a twenty four to seven
news cycle. You get alerts on your phone about injury
updates and all this, like they gone over the days
of Jimmy the Greek and watching Brent Musburger for all
your updates and let's span around the league and what's
happening today. Because you can just pick up your phone.
You can set your phone to get alerts about players,
the tea, the same thing with every op sport.

Speaker 3 (01:19:15):
Why do those shows work?

Speaker 4 (01:19:17):
I don't know. That's a good question. I'm not really
one hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (01:19:21):
Sure, but I'm right there, like they all try to do.

Speaker 2 (01:19:23):
The the comedy piece of it doesn't work, and I.

Speaker 3 (01:19:27):
Think it's almost forced in the NFL ones.

Speaker 4 (01:19:30):
It is, it absolutely is, But you have a.

Speaker 3 (01:19:32):
Comedian, the comedy stinks.

Speaker 4 (01:19:34):
Yeah, all right, I like Kimmel back in the day,
but it's passe at this point.

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
Yeah, I just you know, it's it's interesting. We'll talk
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Speaker 4 (01:20:33):
Right April is the Spring Equinox.

Speaker 2 (01:20:36):
We have the fall Equinox and the Spring Equinox with
the confluence of all the sports. We have NBA playoffs
about to get you know, we wind down the regular
season that begins this week. NHL is around the corner,
Masters going on, and of course the draft. So let's
bring it back to the draft, my brother. Oh yeah,

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and let's dive into it. So the one interesting trade
yesterday or actually signing was Joe Flacco going back to Cleveland. Yeah,
because with Flacco going to Cleveland, I think that's their
protection of you know what, we don't need to go
after Shador here.

Speaker 4 (01:21:21):
Yeah. I mean, it's still a short term stop gap,
so you're gonna need a quarterback of the future at
some point. But to your point, they don't necessarily have
to reach for someone right this second. If they don't
trust it, which goes back to the conversation we had
earlier in the show. If you're not fully confident that
one of these guys can be your franchise guy, then
go out and get a stop gap and try to
figure it out, find a project guy in the second

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or third round potentially, or circle back and do it
again next year. But you can really end up setting
yourself back. And look, they know this as well as
anybody with Baker Mayfield, you know, and Baker's turned into
a solid player, but it took him two years, three
years removed from being a Brown for that to actually happen.
And they can't afford to do that again. So I
think it's a smart move to bring Flacco when you

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kind of know what you're getting at that point in time.
Obviously not what he used to be, but still a
capable player.

Speaker 2 (01:22:10):
Yeah, and I think that's get the trade for Kenny Pickett.
I don't like Kenny Pickett, but.

Speaker 4 (01:22:16):
No, it's someone who's still young, who changes scenery. Maybe
it helps him out. I don't know. It was a
it was a low risk move for someone who is talented,
so you kind of bring him in and see see
what happens. I don't necessarily have a big issue with it.
I don't have the highest expectations for him, to be honest.

Speaker 2 (01:22:33):
But you you know why they you know, Pickett and
Flacco is the Giant. It's what the Giants did with
Russ and Winston.

Speaker 3 (01:22:45):
Right like that. I mean, that's basically what they got, right.
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
That allows you to not have to force one of
the quarterbacks, right.

Speaker 4 (01:22:54):
Which is smart. That's how that's what everybody should operate
instead of just taking a quarterback because you declare that
you need one.

Speaker 2 (01:23:01):
So all right, let's think about it. One we knows
cam Ward, yep. Two is Cleveland aforementioned? Is it Abdul
Carter or is it Travis Hunter?

Speaker 4 (01:23:16):
Well, based on the conversations we've had, and you know
how we like to build teams from the front back,
so Abdua Carter is the easy one for me, even
though I think that Travis Hunter is a spectacular player.
Is probably gonna be a corner and it could be
a really good one with some gadget plays on offense
for him. But when you can wreck Rekavic up front defensively,

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and especially if you can add him into the mix
with Miles Garrett, who just signed to a giant extension.
Why wouldn't you do that? That makes all the sense
in the world.

Speaker 2 (01:23:43):
To me, dude, I mean imagine, right, you said it,
Carter and Miles Garrett, Oh my god, I mean that
would be insane. That's why I think again to think
about who you are. You're the Browns, right. All the

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quarterback stuff, forget it, Like, I know you're gonna need
to get one at some point, but build the truly
build a defense at a running game, right, and you
could win.

Speaker 3 (01:24:16):
I mean, Eagle showed you that, right.

Speaker 4 (01:24:18):
And guys, the Browns overall don't have a terrible roster.
You know, they have some holes to plug here and there,
but they're they're good enough for a roster as a
hole to compete in that division, uh for or at
the very least to be a wild card. If you
just plug a couple of holes here and there, so
you get yourself stronger on the defensive front. To your point,
get yourself a running game for a Joe Flacco or

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can you Pickett? You could be good enough to compete
for a playoff spot for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:24:42):
Yeah yeah, So all right, So now you're three, you're
the Giants, and if you're the Giants, I think now
you've got to go Travishner.

Speaker 4 (01:24:52):
Yeah, you go Travis Travils Sandras is the best player
left on the board. If you wanted to go for Need,
I wouldn't be mad at you if you went Campbell
from LSU to help the offensive line a little bit,
because that's something that they've explicitly said they need to
shore up the last couple of seasons off seasons, and
Joe Shane has not done that. So I wouldn't be
mad at Will Campbell, but I would stay true to

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the board to your point, and I would end up
taking Travis Hunter two.

Speaker 2 (01:25:17):
And only because he's so He's Travis Hunters is just
such an elite talent.

Speaker 4 (01:25:23):
He's dominant. He can be Charles Woodson, Chant Bailey, he.

Speaker 2 (01:25:26):
Can exactly like, you can't pass that up, right, As
much as I love Campbell and I think he's legit
and they need help on that line. You know, when
you get complete impact players, you got to take.

Speaker 4 (01:25:43):
Them, Yeah, especially when they fall into your lap, right,
which in a normal year or another year, he would
be the top prospect overall, regardless of position. So you
get that kind of value with the third overall pick.
I agree with you, I would end up taking him.

Speaker 2 (01:25:56):
So now, if you're the Patriots, I think you got
to go Mason Graham.

Speaker 4 (01:26:04):
Yeah, I would agree, and it kind of fits. He's
kind of a Mike Rabowl type of player, too, tough
up front, you know, will be a safe pick to
a certain degree, to because even if he quote unquote
bus he's at least, at worse is going to be
a rotational defensive tackle, but at best, which we're all
expecting the best, that he will be a very, very

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highly productive, if not dominant inside presence. So I would agree.
I would still consider Will Campbell here too, because they
need help on the offensive line, and you invested so
much in getting Drake May you should invest in trying
to keep him protect it. So you know, I'm in
one of these situations where today I might say Mason Graham,
but tomorrow I might say Will Campbell if I'm to

(01:26:45):
be fully honest with you, But right now, gun to
my head, I would say Mason Graham.

Speaker 3 (01:26:50):
Right now, if you're Jacksonville, You've got to go Will camp.

Speaker 4 (01:26:52):
For sure, definitely, because clearly Trevor Lawrence can't stay upright,
So yeah, and you've invested.

Speaker 2 (01:26:59):
So much and for all you gotta the only way
to see about Lawrence is if you protect them, right,
and they haven't done that.

Speaker 4 (01:27:11):
No, And I mean and to be fair to that process,
I mean, there have been times where Trevor Lawrence has
been decently protected and he makes some really bad throws,
but you know, have happy feet in the pocket? Is
he right?

Speaker 3 (01:27:21):
Like God, you gotta have to have a line he.

Speaker 4 (01:27:23):
Trusts, right, right, So so I'm with you on that.
I that that makes the most sense for me there.
You gotta go to the offensive line to try to
protect whatever you have left with uh, with Trevor Lawrence.
So that makes sense to me.

Speaker 3 (01:27:37):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:27:39):
Then you're on the clock, right figgis Raiders And I
want to talk to you about the Raids a little bit
because you know, TV's calling the shots here.

Speaker 4 (01:27:54):
Right, even though they try to make it as if
he's not. But he has heavy influence very Yeah TV.

Speaker 2 (01:28:00):
I know TV's called the shots now. Yeah, and listen,
I don't blame him.

Speaker 4 (01:28:07):
Yeah, why not? Well, look, things have it hasn't been
working the last twenty years for the Raiders the way
they've been doing it. So why not.

Speaker 2 (01:28:15):
That's the way that I look at it. No, and
here's the thing about Brady. I trust Brady like I
think Brady can be a great NFL executive.

Speaker 4 (01:28:27):
I think he can. He doesn't have any experience in
personnel or anything. But I trust the fact that he's
extremely hard worker, He's very well prepared. He takes everything
seriously that he does. He's not going to do anything
half assed. So based on all of that, I choose
to believe that he's going to put his everything into
trying to be the best executive that he can. So

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I have confidence in him for that reason, absent of
the fact that he has no experience doing it, and
Carol does. He has Pizza lean on.

Speaker 3 (01:28:56):
So he does, right. I just think he knows he's
shellthing too.

Speaker 2 (01:29:02):
But by doing by doing the broadcast too, he sees players.

Speaker 3 (01:29:08):
I just think he knows that. I think he knows players.

Speaker 2 (01:29:11):
I think he's got the gift of understanding who's good.

Speaker 4 (01:29:17):
Yeah, I think I'm hopeful that that's the case. I
guess we'll have to wait. The time will tell whether
or not that's the case or not. Whether as far
as valuating talent and you know, and even as being
the elite analyst for Fox is very restricted because of
his ownership responsibilities with the Raiders. There are meetings he
can't go to, practices he can't go to. So even
with all of that, he's having a really limited intel

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on the teams he's covering on a weekend, week out basis.

Speaker 2 (01:29:40):
Yeah, I'm wondering though. It was funny because he's so
good at it. You know, he got great Like here's
the thing about Brady. Whatever he does, he's great at it.

Speaker 4 (01:29:52):
Yeah, he improved week after week this past season. He
really did. He still wasn't perfect as an analyst, if I'm
gonna be honest, but I mean from Week one to
the Super Bowl, I thought he improved dramatically.

Speaker 3 (01:30:04):
Dude, was funny.

Speaker 2 (01:30:06):
I have to say this too, because you know it's great, right, So,
but he's he's such a gentleman. There was so you know,
here he was in Philadelphia a lot because of the Eels, right,
because they were doing there was Kevin Burkhart. Yeah, and
he and Tom were in Town a lot, and they

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were always eat at my friend's restaurant.

Speaker 4 (01:30:33):
Way.

Speaker 2 (01:30:34):
Yeah, mister Tony, remember I tell you about mister Town. Yeah, yeah,
Well they go see mister Tony at Aroma in South Philly,
and there were times where kids around the block and
Tom sat talked to every kid. I mean, I mean

(01:30:57):
literally took time from his meal, went signed stuff for kids,
like talk to kids, so pictures he was. I mean,
this is the goat, right like this dude, I mean,
I have to be I gotta be completely honest. It
floored me how gracious he was.

Speaker 4 (01:31:20):
Yeah, someone of that ilk with that status, right.

Speaker 2 (01:31:24):
So I expected him to be polite, right yeah, sure,
but he was downright warm.

Speaker 4 (01:31:29):
He was.

Speaker 3 (01:31:30):
He was he was a gentleman.

Speaker 4 (01:31:33):
He was warm, he was.

Speaker 2 (01:31:36):
I mean, I have I was so impressed by by
how he was with everybody, with people. For a guy
that gets caught at all the time, the dude was
just just an ace.

Speaker 4 (01:31:50):
Wow. You know it's funny they say, like, you know,
you give somebody, you know a lot of money and
their true character comes out. And you know, Tom was
a sixth round pick and you know, ibviously wasn't drafted high,
didn't have high expectations, and had to work his tail
off to get to every everything that he earned. He's
still maintained that humility the entire time all the way
through all the way that tells you the true character

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of somebody.

Speaker 3 (01:32:12):
The tremendous.

Speaker 2 (01:32:15):
There was a there was a certain player current player,
I can't even say it, who was in the who's
in the league, who loves Brady right and a very
good player loves Brady. In fact, he was taken to
the restaurant to meet Brady and then they huddled and all.

Speaker 3 (01:32:34):
And then the next week he.

Speaker 2 (01:32:36):
Got a sign Brady Jersey to mel Oh wow, yeah, yeah,
really cool, really cool, Like you know, but like it
just struck me seeing all this stuff over the last
over that month was I felt just really cool. I

(01:32:56):
appreciate that. I love hearing that stuff about guys.

Speaker 4 (01:33:00):
Well, especially when you see it and it's not you know,
there's it's not a photo op. It's not all over
the place.

Speaker 3 (01:33:05):
You know, Yeah, no, it's legit.

Speaker 4 (01:33:09):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:33:09):
You know, it's like the greatest athlete that has time
for everybody that truly is America's guest in every which
way is Barkley.

Speaker 4 (01:33:23):
Absolutely Charles.

Speaker 3 (01:33:26):
I've seen it action a million times.

Speaker 2 (01:33:28):
He buys the bar around like nobody's a bigger support
than Barkley. He loves it right, like he loves people.
He's the coolest dude you'll ever want to like. He's
a guy that you generally want to meet, you want
to have a.

Speaker 4 (01:33:41):
Beer with, right, and he'll pay for the beers, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:33:43):
Yes, Yes, Brady's the same way, Brady Brady. I gotta
tell you, I got Charles vibes off them.

Speaker 4 (01:33:51):
Wow, that's high praise, that's.

Speaker 3 (01:33:54):
I know anyway. I have to share that with you.

Speaker 4 (01:33:56):
No, that's awesome. I love that story and be to
me even more confidence than Tom Brady running the ship.

Speaker 2 (01:34:02):
So yeah, dude, I gotta tell you, I think I
think the Raiders are going to be fixed. I don't
know how long it's going to take them, but I
think the Raiders are going to I think they're going
to go in the right direction.

Speaker 4 (01:34:16):
Yeah, they're They're in tough sledding with that division, uh
for sure, star power, especially at the coaching ranks. But yeah,
the arrow's pointing up for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:34:26):
All right, So who are you taking?

Speaker 4 (01:34:28):
So this is tough because I do love Ashton Gentzy,
but it's also a very deep running back class in general.
So the question is Ashton Gentcy a generational, franchise changing
type of running back or is it the gap between
him and Amari and Hampton or Trayveon Henderson or a
couple of others not as wide as you think. I

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tend to think that you generally can find running backs.
I don't know if Ashton Genzy is necessarily I've heard
Emtt Smith comparisons. That's obviously pretty lofty. If he may
makes that sort of Saquon Barkley impact or not, I
don't know if he does, but I do know they
have other needs, like the offensive line, their defensive backfield.
Like I would probably right now go with someone like

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a Will Johnson, who's obviously not Travis Hunter, but he's
a top notch Day one starting cornerback that has potential
to be an all pro. I think I would go
with him and then try to see what I can
circle back with a thirty seventh pick in the second
round and see if there's a running back there to
my liking, yeah, I hear you, I love gent Bed Yeah.
I look. I'll put it this way, if they took

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gen C, I would not be mad at all, not
in the least.

Speaker 2 (01:35:35):
Bit shield The shame is is if if this was
a year later in their build jet he's a no brainer.

Speaker 4 (01:35:44):
He'd be the easy pick, right, Yeah, but.

Speaker 3 (01:35:47):
I understand where you're coming from. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:35:49):
Now, look, there's also the element of, like, if you
do think he's that much, that impactful of a player.
He brought in Geno Smith, who's an average to above
average starting quarterback who has been good when he's had
a running game. Last year he didn't, and I think
that's why his turnovers went up. You have good weapons
offensively with brock Bowers, and Myers has shown himself to
be a decent number two receiver because even though he's

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a tight end, brock Bowers is their number one receiver.
There's no mistake about it. Yeah, you add in a dominant,
potentially dominant running back like gent I mean, Sky's the limit.
The question is can you find somebody else similar to him?
Or look, if somebody wants to trade up, if there's
gonna be some sort of battle for him, Like you know,
the Cowboys might want him, you know, a couple of
other teams behind might want him. Maybe you leverage that

(01:36:32):
pick and move down a few spots and you could
probably still get Will Johnson and the team somewhere.

Speaker 2 (01:36:36):
You know, looking about him, you're you're at a great point.
And here's the thing about the Cowboys. To me, Gent
is the only one that could save their off season.

Speaker 4 (01:36:47):
I would agree with that because their off season has
been a disaster to this point. Well, if you add Gent.

Speaker 2 (01:36:55):
There you go, all right, well Gent cd triangle with
a healthy Dack, then all of a sudden, like I
could get excited.

Speaker 4 (01:37:07):
Right, I'm with you on that, although questions on that
offensive line too, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:37:13):
Yes, yes, but it's still good. I don't think it's
a bad line.

Speaker 4 (01:37:19):
No, I mean, losing Zach Martin's not gonna help obviously.

Speaker 3 (01:37:22):
Yeah, but I mean he was, he was starting to
decline a little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:37:25):
He was, but he was still you know, I would
still say he was an above average player.

Speaker 7 (01:37:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:37:29):
Yeah, I again, if I could get if I got
Action Dent, if I got Ashton Gent and I'm in Dallas,
I'm starting to go like that at least would revive me.

Speaker 3 (01:37:42):
Because because other than that, I mean, do you like
where they're headed?

Speaker 4 (01:37:46):
No? How could you? What of note have they done?

Speaker 3 (01:37:50):
Exactly?

Speaker 4 (01:37:51):
But Joe Milton, you got yourself a backup quarterback spectacular.
I mean, by the way we talked about their running
back itches going into last offseason. I remember you Fits
had this conversation. Fitz and I were bullets on the
Cowboys and said they didn't need a running game, they'd
be fine. And obviously they fell off of a cliff.
It was terrible.

Speaker 2 (01:38:08):
Yeah, that one. I saw that one. I didn't get it.
I didn't understand it. All this talk their their win
totals were kind of a half.

Speaker 4 (01:38:18):
Yeah, and and Fitz and I both took the over
on that.

Speaker 3 (01:38:20):
And I was like, I don't say it. I don't
say it.

Speaker 2 (01:38:23):
I don't like them, and they're just you know, but again,
but you you give me genty on there kind of rejuice.

Speaker 3 (01:38:31):
I also think they need to be rejuvenated.

Speaker 4 (01:38:34):
Yeah, they coach.

Speaker 3 (01:38:36):
I mean, you know, we'll see.

Speaker 4 (01:38:37):
You know, Brian Schottenheimer doesn't do a whole lot for me,
to be honest with you, Yeah, this is like, this
is an old Jerry Jones callback to like, you know,
I'm a higher up for lack of a better word,
And this is no disrespect to Schottenheimer, but a puppet.
And I only say that because how many head coaching
interviews did Brian Schttenheimer get over the last couple of years. Yeah,
I'm pretty confident in saying zero he was nobody's right

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to be a head coach, and I was the head
coach of one of the most market biggest franchises on
the planet.

Speaker 2 (01:39:06):
Well you know what it is too, It's like these dudes,
they just want to reinvent the wheel, you know, they
want to be the smartest guy in the room. The
puppet thing is real too, but you know, oh, I
got you. I'm the one. Like instead of going after Like,
if you're the Cowboys and you're looking around, why wouldn't

(01:39:26):
you poach Kansas City? Go all right, well hates spags, right,
come here.

Speaker 4 (01:39:31):
Why didn't you call Belichick before he took the North
Carolina job?

Speaker 3 (01:39:34):
Exactly?

Speaker 4 (01:39:35):
Why not call Pete Carroll?

Speaker 2 (01:39:37):
Yes, you know, like instead of trying to reinvent and
try to be the smartest person in the room and go,
you know, I'm a genius. I found so and so,
go get the best guy for the job.

Speaker 4 (01:39:51):
And by the way, it's never worked. The runs of
the short runs of success if you want to call
it that for the Cowboys over the last twenty years,
uh huh has been with Bill Parcells and Mike McCarthy,
two established head coaches yep. Yeah. So what does that
tell you, Jared?

Speaker 2 (01:40:05):
Yeah, all, I gotta take quick t you will continue
a little first round look at the draft.

Speaker 3 (01:40:13):
Got here?

Speaker 2 (01:40:14):
What's funny? All the stuff going on? You got the
Masters in the NBA playoffs around the corner. Nothing gets
you more excited football.

Speaker 4 (01:40:24):
That's right, exactly. Still football still finds.

Speaker 3 (01:40:27):
Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (01:40:28):
We go to the draft always and all is.

Speaker 3 (01:40:30):
An excuse to talk about each team.

Speaker 4 (01:40:32):
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let's keep going around the horn in this first round, Jets,
we skipped over to Jets to Dallas.

Speaker 4 (01:42:13):
Oh yeah, so I talked about the Dallas Cowboys potentially
moving up to Jets and nab Ashton Jentz at six
with the Raiders. So that's how the Cowboys came up.

Speaker 2 (01:42:22):
Yeah, if you're in a Jet, it's interesting because you
gotta you gotta do you need line help, I really do,
Membo like you gotta go after somebody.

Speaker 3 (01:42:34):
You just you got to you got to fix that.

Speaker 4 (01:42:38):
Yeah, But you know how the Jets operate, and it
would not surprise me. And I don't know if I'd
be mad at them if they took Jalen Walker, but
and I would understand it. But if you're drafting for
need and someone who is not a crazy reach, at
that point, I think Membo does make the most sense. Yeah,
but Jalen Walker's enticing.

Speaker 2 (01:42:56):
And then then if you're Carolina, you gotta go. I
think you gotta go Walker.

Speaker 4 (01:43:02):
Yeah, you got it. If you're Carolina, whoever it is,
you're going best player available, regardless of position. So at
that point in time, it will be Walker. If we're
assuming Membos going to the Jets, so.

Speaker 3 (01:43:13):
This would be interesting if you're of the Saints.

Speaker 4 (01:43:16):
Yeah, this guy interesting over after yesterday's news.

Speaker 3 (01:43:20):
Right, let's discuss it. Where do you think it?

Speaker 4 (01:43:25):
Well, I know, obviously they're gonna need a quarterback anyway.
Derek Carr was not going to be the long term answer.
So they knew that now whether or not they assumed
they were going to take a quarterback in the first
round in the top ten. And I don't know if
this changes their metric on that or not now based
on the draft we're doing now, you know, Jackson Dart
and Sajor Sanders are both still available. But that's rich

(01:43:47):
for me for both of them, and I don't know
about you, and I know they need one. And it's
great to have a project quarterback if you can't, if
you know, a quarterback of the future, if you can
get one. I just don't know if I would take
either of those guys at number nine if I were them.
So if I were the Saints, I would also go,
you know, best player available at that point, you know,
so maybe you know, maybe that's Michael Williams from Georgia,

(01:44:09):
someone like that.

Speaker 2 (01:44:11):
See, I think you're right, and I think you should
do that. You don't think they will now, I think
they're gonna go Jackson Dart. Yeah, this is where I
think the Saints go Dart over Shadore.

Speaker 4 (01:44:31):
It makes sense to a degree. I would say SHERDERA.
Sanders would thrive in a place where he can, you know,
if it can be a rhythm and timing offense where
he doesn't necessarily have to work and let when he
was being mocked to places like Pittsburgh, I don't see
the fit there. I just don't think he has the
physical tools to play, you know, with Pittsburgh in Cleveland,
in Cincinnati in December, I don't know if he has

(01:44:53):
the strength to do that in a climate controlled, you know,
dome environment where he's playing for the Saints. You play
Atlanta a couple of times a year. I think that's
kind of a really good fit now saying that Jackson
Dart has some mobility to him. He can do a
lot of the same things that Shador can do, but
he's actually a better athlete as far as you know,
being able to run around and make plays with his legs.
So of those two, I feel like I would still

(01:45:16):
go with Shador over Dart. But that being said, I
wouldn't take either of them at number nine if I'm
the Saints, if anything, I would look to trade back
if possible and see if I can get one of
those guys in the twenties.

Speaker 3 (01:45:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:45:27):
I And here's the thing I would agree with you, Like,
if I had that selection, I moved back, there's nobody
at nine. Put the quarterbacks aside, there's nobody at nine
that that I'm like screaming for.

Speaker 4 (01:45:45):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:45:46):
This is the problem with the draft is that there's
a lot of there's quality players, and it's deep, Like
now through the rest of the first round, there's a
lot of talent, right, but it's not number nine, ten.

Speaker 4 (01:46:00):
Yeah, I mean there's a number of directions that I mean,
and look, sometimes you just can't trade out of it.
So if you're forced to have to make a pick,
I mean, there are guys like I think the tied
end from Penn State might be I mean, just from
pure talent and value standpoint, would be a good pick there.

Speaker 2 (01:46:19):
Well, I love Warren. I think Warren is going to
be a stunt. But if you're again, you're you're the Saints.
I mean Warren, I like it. But he's not Bowers.

Speaker 8 (01:46:33):
No.

Speaker 4 (01:46:34):
I mean he's a different type of player than Bowers,
but I think he can have a good end. But
especially considering that you can move him around. I mean,
he's basically a younger version of and who's the former
BYU quarterback who's a gadget guy for them? Whose name
slips my mind at the moment, Bri you know who.
This is what I'm talking about, Taysom Hill, thank you,
who you can play in multiple positions, do a bunch

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of different things for you while also being a really
quality tight end. I can't take him there, okay, fair enough.
I mean there are some boards that have him as
like the fourth or fifth best prospect overall in the
I listen.

Speaker 2 (01:47:09):
I love the He's a great kid. I love the kid.
He's he's Penn State, He's in my backyard. I love
the kid.

Speaker 3 (01:47:16):
But I can't take him here.

Speaker 4 (01:47:18):
So if you have to take somebody.

Speaker 3 (01:47:20):
Number, they have too many. They have just.

Speaker 2 (01:47:25):
They have to get things figured out. They have a
lot of holes that team.

Speaker 4 (01:47:28):
Man. Yeah, yeah, Well maybe at that point you go
defensive line. Maybe you go with Piers from Tennessee or
someone like that. But I mean, I mean there's a
there's a possibility that if you want to move off
of nine and you can't, you gotta take somebody so
that somebody is either a reach for a quarterback or blank.
So I guess Anthony Gargano, you're Mickey Loomis who was blank?

Speaker 2 (01:47:51):
Yeah, yeah, I can't trade I can't trade back. I mean,
I got checkta go defense. I mean, because I'm not
I don't want to take they will if that happens.
You're taking Dark.

Speaker 4 (01:48:07):
You think they're gonna take Dark if they're they're at nine?

Speaker 3 (01:48:09):
Okay, yep.

Speaker 4 (01:48:10):
So our resident Saints fan Brie, are you cool Jackson
Dark at number nine?

Speaker 9 (01:48:14):
I mean I'm unfortunately I'm drinking like the Sanders School laid,
like I would love Shador at nine, And I mean
like I think you can get like Kyle McCord or
like Dylan Gabriel in the second round.

Speaker 10 (01:48:25):
I mean, if you know, also just for fun.

Speaker 4 (01:48:27):
Well you don't. Anthony loves Kyle McCord.

Speaker 9 (01:48:29):
I know, if you did go defense at nine and
then if we're still going to get a quarterback in
the second round, then like Kyle McCord.

Speaker 10 (01:48:36):
But in my world, in pre world, I would love
Shadoor Sanders.

Speaker 4 (01:48:39):
See. I would go the opposite Brie.

Speaker 3 (01:48:40):
I would do.

Speaker 4 (01:48:41):
I would do what you mentioned first. I would take
another player at nine and circle back in the second
round and see if there's a quarterback who I value
there with that pick can go that route.

Speaker 10 (01:48:49):
But do you think Kyle McCord or like Dylan gabriel
would still be available?

Speaker 4 (01:48:52):
Oh for sure those guys are probably. Dylan Gabriel is
probably gonna be available in the third or fourth round.
He just doesn't have the physical measurables McCord you could
probably get in the second. He might last into the third.

Speaker 7 (01:49:03):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:49:03):
Well, what are you hearing? You done tate breakdowns with
Baldy and talk to people there, Anthony, what are you
hearing just from outsiders? I know how you feel about him,
how you Baldy feels about him about like where his
value is in the draft and where he might fall.

Speaker 2 (01:49:15):
So it is interesting he's one of those kids. Did
you know you remember earlier in the show, I was
talking about when kids when teams don't talk about you.

Speaker 3 (01:49:27):
Yes, correct, that was your response to McCord.

Speaker 2 (01:49:32):
Interesting, there are teams that really like him and they
don't want to talk about him.

Speaker 7 (01:49:38):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:49:38):
It's always funny just the way that this works. When
you start hearing guys moving up and down draft boards
and all that, and I forget exactly who I heard
say this, but it's like, no one moves up or down,
like the board is what the board is, like.

Speaker 3 (01:49:51):
All of a sudden the board was set ago.

Speaker 4 (01:49:54):
Yeah, so three days before the draft, so and so
was rising or so and so was falling. It's like,
based on what unless some news comes out, unless it's
like Laramie Tunsel's smoking or whatever video comes out something
like that happens, no one's moving up or down. They
kind of are where they are. And what happens is
people poison the well and call these these insiders and
tell them we're thinking this, we're thinking that to try

(01:50:14):
to throw other people off the trail. That's all this is.
But no one's actually moving up or down. That's that's
a whole misnomer.

Speaker 2 (01:50:21):
Right, right, But they were talking about teams that don't
like that with McCord, that they don't even want to
talk to you about him because they like him. And
he's perfect for teams because he's potentially third round pick.

Speaker 4 (01:50:42):
That's kind of where I were thought they go higher.

Speaker 2 (01:50:45):
Yeah, right, like he could go second round, but if
you keep him quiet enough, he could last on the
third round. But they like him. Listen if you if
you watch his tape all but one game last year,
all but one game, he's impressive.

Speaker 3 (01:51:05):
Yeah, and not in the Ohio State stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:51:09):
Yeah, he was a scapegoat for that. The Ohigo State
still wins last year. If he's the quarterback, I firmly
believe that at least Will Howard easily. Yeah, no disrespect
to Will Howard, but he's better than Will Howard. He is.

Speaker 2 (01:51:21):
I mean go back and look at it. I mean
Michigan was tough, dude. Yeah, like they weren't beating Michigan.
I don't care who was the quarterback.

Speaker 4 (01:51:32):
Yeah. One thing I look at too, just going back
to going back to the Saints and what they may
or made as far as a quarterback or not, and
who they take in the first round, someone they can
look at, and considering who their head coaches and the
excess success he had with the Eagles this past year.
I would take a look at Jalen Milroe as a
project that same mold as Jalen. Did you know whoever

(01:51:58):
your starters got. Obviously he's not gonna come in and
start from day one. He's a little too raw for that.
But he's a lot raw anybody who talks about just
the kid the person. He's a great kid, super intelligent,
super hard worker. You know, he's someone that you love
to have in the building, that you can just get
your hands on and work with because he has all
the physical measureable.

Speaker 3 (01:52:17):
Every last week, God, he would have stayed. Yeah, I know,
I know he should have went in the portal.

Speaker 2 (01:52:23):
I know that they didn't want to al bad. It
was over, but he should have went in the portal.
Now one more year would have done him.

Speaker 4 (01:52:28):
Wonders.

Speaker 2 (01:52:29):
I agree, because you have the problem is remember he's
not he's not tall, right, so you got that issue.

Speaker 4 (01:52:37):
No, but he's stocky, He's he's sturdy, he's built similar
to Jalen. To somebody yeah, I was about to say
that a lot like Urts.

Speaker 2 (01:52:44):
Yeah, and he's got a great arm, like really he's
got a he's got a strong arm.

Speaker 3 (01:52:51):
I mean, I.

Speaker 7 (01:52:53):
Was.

Speaker 2 (01:52:54):
It's a shame because you look at you look at
certain games you go, oh my god. Yeah, and then
you look at I don't know, the Bull.

Speaker 4 (01:53:02):
Michigan that US game.

Speaker 3 (01:53:05):
From two he was horrible.

Speaker 2 (01:53:08):
Yeah, It's like, uh, if you look at Kyle look
at the courts tape, you go, oh my god, like
it makes every throw.

Speaker 3 (01:53:16):
Then you throw the pit game on you go.

Speaker 4 (01:53:19):
What the hell happened? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:53:20):
Yeah, five picks.

Speaker 4 (01:53:22):
Wherever it was? I mean, I mean, I mean guys
can have bad games too, exactly what happens the guys,
they're all human.

Speaker 2 (01:53:29):
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going through. We'll continue to go through it all. What
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Speaker 4 (01:54:41):
Because it gives people hope and the it's the belief
and the unknown that we found our guy, you know.
And you especially if it's someone who you've heard about,
you know. So if you're at the top of the
draft and you hear people keep saying the name Ashton
GenZ ash and GenZ Ashton Gentz, and you don't follow
college football, which that's there's a healthy amount of people

(01:55:01):
who are NFL fans who don't followage college football on
a weekend to week out basis, And all of a sudden,
you find out that your team got them, and they're
getting these comparisons and as they compare them to EMMITTT
Smith or Saquon Barkle, who's like, all right, we got
our guy. This is amazing. Let's go, and so everybody's optimistic.
You know, this is the season where you know, it
happens in every sport spring training. Everybody thinks they're gonna

(01:55:22):
have a great season and turn things around and it's
gonna be a season of optimism. And then you're the
White Sox in year three and eleven. Sorry, Mark, uh,
you know that's just how that's how it works. So
I think you're just in the optimism season. This is
how the off season works in most sports.

Speaker 2 (01:55:35):
Yeah, the NFL what it is though, if it's even
you're right, obviously right, but the draft as an even
bigger hold.

Speaker 3 (01:55:43):
I know these kids, like there's a dude I work
with who is a huge draft.

Speaker 2 (01:55:49):
Nick right, doesn't watch college football during the year, Like,
how are you missed your draft and you don't like
college football?

Speaker 4 (01:55:58):
Yeah that's odd to me. Well see because at then
at that point, you're lily literally at the mercy of
what the talking heads tell you about a particular player
and can't form any apage.

Speaker 2 (01:56:06):
I go, I watch all the footage. You know she
will take for as well. I mean I guess you'd
go YouTube, can watch whatever you want.

Speaker 4 (01:56:12):
Yeah, but.

Speaker 2 (01:56:15):
You know it's not the coaches tape that you know,
we'll get it at NFL films right still, like you
can watch you know whatever.

Speaker 7 (01:56:21):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:56:22):
I just don't get it though, Like you're either a
college football fit and are like that should be one
in one and one.

Speaker 4 (01:56:30):
You would think, but you know that's not always the case,
and you just you formulate your opinion based off of
the opinions of others and what they tell you and
whether this guy was ranked and whether or not so
and so was a reach at this certain pick, which
no one really knows for five years after, you know.
That's why, that's why I'm not a big proponent. And
one of the things I hate about this season is

(01:56:50):
draft grades. Who owes the biggest this team got an
a triple plus, you know, and it's like, well, mostly
go back in time and look at the teams that
actually had a triple plus and grades in the in
the in the draft, and how well all those picks
actually worked out. Most of the time, it's you know,
you draft guys low on the and you hit on
a few, you miss on a few, and you're batting
you know, three hundred or something, and you hope you

(01:57:12):
hit on somebody who is an impact player.

Speaker 2 (01:57:15):
No, it's it's actually stupid, Like when you think about it,
I mean, yeah, he's kind of stupid.

Speaker 4 (01:57:21):
I don't want to make fun of what we do,
but that is because no one knows.

Speaker 3 (01:57:27):
No, let me listen, it's legit that you go like
you like a player, right, but so much of it
is what you had where he goes.

Speaker 4 (01:57:38):
Yeah, it's based on circumstance. Who the who the head
coach is, and the coordinator, the system that you're running,
the players if you're a quarterback, the players in front
of you or running back of the players in front
of you on the offensive line, all all that stuff matters.

Speaker 3 (01:57:51):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:57:52):
If if Tua goes to you know, Cleveland, is Tua
what he is now in Miami exactly?

Speaker 2 (01:57:58):
You know, then you have the factor that nobody knows about,
which is all the behind the scene stuff with kids
are dealing with why what's.

Speaker 3 (01:58:12):
The true makeup?

Speaker 2 (01:58:14):
Like even these teams that are interviewing kids to combine,
you can't get a true depiction of a kid for
a you know, twenty minutes sit down, even an hour.

Speaker 4 (01:58:24):
Even beyond that, I mean, you can do all the
intel in the world and do deep dives and talk
to middle school teachers and all that, and some guys
still make boneheaded decisions and are out of the league
in four years. Yeah, even with all that groundwork that
you lay, it's science.

Speaker 2 (01:58:38):
You know, we've already seen. Look at the first round
you mentioned Pierce earlier. Yeah, right, you got Nolan, Walter, Nolan,
you got you know, you had to kick Green. There's
you know, everybody's got some skeletons.

Speaker 4 (01:58:52):
Yeah, no one's ever perfect. You know, you just want
to try to find a guy that fits what you
do and hope that he's a personality fit and keeps
himself clean off the feet. Then again, they can check
all those boxes heading in and they they could put
themselves in the wrong situation once they get there, and
it can all go to hell.

Speaker 7 (01:59:07):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:59:07):
Yeah, you just don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:59:09):
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Speaker 3 (02:00:24):
We've been all over the.

Speaker 2 (02:00:25):
Place draft and to the NBA regular season is tomorrow,
so we put together, we put the bed this season.
And it's really a tale advantage point from FIGI. Where
two teams in Los Angeles are really good, right, both
have a chance, both have revived been revived, the Clippers

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by Kawhi coming back from injury, the Lakers with the
Luca trade. And then you look at those two teams
that are in the mix. All right, okay, see, certainly
the best team. But after that, you got that second
tier team that includes both I think the Clippers, the Lakers,

(02:01:13):
Golden State.

Speaker 4 (02:01:15):
Denver, if you want to put them in there.

Speaker 2 (02:01:16):
Yeah, yeah, right, like you know, but it's a tail
advantage point because if you're you know, west of the Mississippi,
east of the Mississippi, you're going to this league blows.
I'm sick of Boston and Cleveland can't beat them, and

(02:01:38):
that's it.

Speaker 4 (02:01:39):
Cleveland has zero shot against the Celtics in the seven
game series. You know, it's part of my Celtic Yeah,
hete yeah, I get it, you know what I mean.
I'm just thinking this, you know that should be boring.
I've seen it too many times. I've just seen it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:01:53):
As much as I'll be watching and rooting for Cleveland,
I just don't. They're just vam pires.

Speaker 4 (02:02:01):
Yeah, they're great.

Speaker 3 (02:02:03):
Like you know, my date is is born out of jealousy.

Speaker 4 (02:02:08):
Yeah, hey, Geltics. You know, the Celtics are the envy
of every team in the in the league. They are
the prototypical twenty twenty five NBA roster. Yeah, switch everything five,
you know, phenomenal defenders at any given time. Everybody can
shoot from the outside, that's what everybody wants.

Speaker 2 (02:02:25):
I mean, I do hate all the threes. Yeah, like,
I like, I do believe that they should look at
making some real changes.

Speaker 4 (02:02:34):
The three point line back.

Speaker 3 (02:02:36):
Yep, I get ready to corner three and move it back.

Speaker 4 (02:02:39):
Also, just kill the corner three completely, okay yep.

Speaker 2 (02:02:41):
Well, first of all, it does nothing for the game
aesthetically having a guy sit out there.

Speaker 4 (02:02:49):
Yeah, I mean, especially nowadays because there are certain there
are certain guys who literally do nothing but spot up
in the corner. I think Bruce Bowen of the Spurs
was the first person to really start that trend. He
was the first prototypical three and D guy defended the
best perimeter defender and literally just parked in the corner
and just feasted on open corner threes.

Speaker 2 (02:03:07):
I think there needs to be more mid range back.
I think there needs to be a little bit. I
think just from an aesthetic standpoint. Look, the shift was it.

Speaker 4 (02:03:22):
It really gets the rules, not at all against the rules,
yeah right.

Speaker 3 (02:03:27):
But the issue is it made for bad baseball, boring baseball.

Speaker 4 (02:03:35):
Yeah. I will say with the shift, it actually affected
the numbers that the players were putting up. Averages were
dropping precipitous yeah, so for the three point shot, it's
not necessarily esthetically might not be esthetically pleasing, but it's
not as if guys are chucking up threes and nobody
can make them. I mean, there may be made as

(02:03:55):
at a higher clip as they ever have been, you know.
So it's the volume.

Speaker 2 (02:04:00):
The volume went up dramatically, right right, which is the
same which to me makes for boring basketball, like when
it first came into vogue. If you think about it,
the math is off for the degree of difficulty.

Speaker 4 (02:04:18):
Yeah, well, the math actually, I mean the math actually
matches itself up. It's like, if you shoot thirty five
percent from three, it's the equivalent of shooting fifty percent
from two. So you put up more attempts. Yes, you
make a lower percentage, but you're getting an additional point
every time you make one. So the math.

Speaker 2 (02:04:36):
So when I say the math is off, I mean
the math to make it a legitimate game where you're
not too heavy on the three.

Speaker 3 (02:04:47):
The math is off.

Speaker 4 (02:04:49):
Yeah, when it comes to the degree of difficulty to
de emphasize it, right, yeah, which is why in baseball
the changes they've made, they haven't de emphasized the home run.
But what they've done is they've put more of a
spotlight on being able to get on base and steal bases.
Now that's not part. That's part of the.

Speaker 3 (02:05:07):
Game that brought it up. When guys swipe bags.

Speaker 4 (02:05:11):
It's I will say, there's a there's a bit of
an overcorrection. I can't have guys steal in seventy five bases.
You know, that gets to a level of absurdity, to
to a certain degree, and I don't know if they
maybe they'll go back and look at it again. I
don't know. You fix outs, Yeah, it's just so easy
now because you're telling pictures they can't throw over or

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they have there's limits on how often they can throw
over it. It seems like it makes it a lot
easier for guys to steal bases, more so than it
really needs to be. So that part, I'm not the biggest.
The shift banning of the shift short to a degree
I'm fine with, and I know they want to speak
the game up to a certain degree, but you know,
being able to look runners back and step off and
throw over a couple of times, you know, that's part

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of the strategy of baseball that I wish they would
have kept personally. I don't need guys swiping eighty five bags.

Speaker 2 (02:06:02):
All right, let me uh, let me play a little
game with you, speaking of baseball. Yep, I'm going to
give you the early part of the standings. And you
know we always say about the early part of any
season is that it can lie.

Speaker 4 (02:06:16):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (02:06:17):
So I'm gonna I'm gonna give you a team and
their record, and you tell me whether it's the truth
or a lie.

Speaker 3 (02:06:26):
Okay, the Yankees seven and six, that's a lie.

Speaker 4 (02:06:34):
They're better than that, although I don't think they're dominant.
They've got major pitching issues, but they're not five hundred.
They'll be a playoff team. The Orioles at five and eight,
definitely a lie. They're much better than that, are they?
I think so?

Speaker 2 (02:06:51):
I thought so too, but somebody else told me, somebody
in the game was like, you're overrating them a lot.

Speaker 3 (02:06:59):
They look at their pitching.

Speaker 4 (02:07:01):
Yeah, look they've lost some pitching for sure, but I
mean their lineup.

Speaker 3 (02:07:06):
Is still there, and their lineup is still great.

Speaker 4 (02:07:10):
Right, so I think they can hit themselves now, if
you want to argue that. Last year people thought like, hey,
this is this is their year to make a run
to the World Series. I don't think they they're good
enough to make a run to the World Series, but
they're good enough to compete in the Ale East and
make it and make it into the playoffs. Yeah, and
you're better and they're better. They're not. They're five and
eight right now, so obviously you'd be one of the
worst teams in the league if you played at that clip,

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which they're not. So they're better than their record, though
I do not believe that they're a championship contender. I
think they're just a playoff contender, all right.

Speaker 3 (02:07:40):
The Tigers at eight and five, the Guardians at seven
and six.

Speaker 4 (02:07:46):
Yeah, the Tigers and Guardians are I think, I think
are the class of the Central. Those are the two
teams that are going to battle it out at the
Kansas City I think is improving. Uh. But Detroit at
eight and five, Yeah, they're gonna be uh, you know,
fifteen to twenty games over five hundred competing with CLEVELANDO,
I think is going to be right around that same
situation and competing for the Central versus n a wildcard spot.

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So that's where I see those two teams finishing.

Speaker 3 (02:08:11):
All right.

Speaker 4 (02:08:13):
The Rangers at nine and five I don't know what
the final record is gonna end up looking like for them,
but I do think that they're gonna end up being
one of the being the team in the American League West.
I think Houston's taken a step back this year.

Speaker 3 (02:08:31):
Cam Smith had it last night, by the way, right.

Speaker 4 (02:08:33):
Right, So the Angels your Angels eight five? What fools?
Gold don't believe it for half a second. Absolutely, And
it's encouraging that Mike Trout has gotten off to the
hot start that he's gotten off too, is you know,
hitting home runs fifty thousand miles away like he used to,

(02:08:55):
which is great to see. But they don't have enough
in the pitching staff, and I don't know if they
have that. They definitely don't have the depth in their
offensive lineup for the entire season to maintain that. So
absolutely not not a playoff team.

Speaker 3 (02:09:08):
All right, Let's go to.

Speaker 2 (02:09:13):
The Dodgers at eleven and four. I think people are going,
how in the world did they lose four games?

Speaker 4 (02:09:23):
You tell me, mister Philly they took three, by the.

Speaker 2 (02:09:28):
Way through something here with Otani. What do you mean,
not play well against Phillies?

Speaker 4 (02:09:34):
Yeah, the Dodgers in general, and I didn't know. Listen
to our David vassa our insider who covers the Dodgers
for a local affiliate A five seventy l A Sports.
The Phillies have had the Dodgers' number the last couple
of seasons. Oh yeah, just in their heads to have matchups.
And there are many people who felt like, if the
Dodgers played the Phillies in the postseason last year, you know,
the Phillies would have would have probably taken that series.

Speaker 3 (02:09:54):
Yep. So that's the notion here.

Speaker 4 (02:09:57):
Yeah, so it's like, give us the Dodge, which is
crazy to say. You know what, First of all, when
I put it beyond Bryce Harper to say that, because
that's just the kind of dog and competitor that he is,
which I love about him, he'd say that explicitly, I
want to face the best. Oh yeah, So the Dodgers
at eleven to four, they'll they'll definitely maintain that. They'll
they'll they'll be knocking on the door of one hundred,
between one hundred and one hundred and ten wins this year.

Speaker 2 (02:10:20):
Barrow buddy, David Cige, I tell you about right who
used to play you know, he played fifteen seasons in
the Biggs, right, So we were bsking. You know, this
was before the season. He said the Dodgers would win
one hundred and thirty games. Oh my god, I go,
do you're off pace?

Speaker 4 (02:10:40):
Yeah, that's rich will consider, I mean, And if you
take it from a fifty thousand foot view, it's like,
oh my god. They have all this talent and look
at their bullpen and look at their you know, all
the it's like, all right, well, you know, Freddy's still
coming off of a bit of an injury. You had
to play this first game in two weeks last night
or ten days last night. Their pitching staff all of
like literally all their guys are coming off of some

(02:11:02):
sort of injury. And really that's been the biggest issue
for them. The four losses that they've had have been
either poor defense or poor pitching. And you have two
guys in your rotation that can only pitch once every
six days because they're coming over from Japan. That's Yamamoto
and Sasaki. Health issues abound with a bunch of other guys.

(02:11:22):
You just put your big free agent signing, Blake Snell,
on the injury list. So it's not of if the
Dodgers are going to roll over everybody and win one
hundred and thirty games is ridiculous. I appreciate that the confidence,
but it's really hard to ask a team who just
won the World Series to come back and break and
break the record for most wins in the history of

(02:11:44):
the sport in the regular season. I think that's a
tall ask.

Speaker 2 (02:11:48):
All right, let's stay in the West, all right, yes,
because I'm sure you and I have to agree on
this one.

Speaker 3 (02:11:55):
The Pods eleven and three.

Speaker 4 (02:11:59):
I think the Poders not going anywhere. I know they
lost some people in the off season. They tried to
trade Dylan Cees they weren't able to, but that's still
a talented roster and especially talented line up. Yes, so
why people were kind of writing them off? And I
know they have an ownership issue and they didn't spend
a lot of money this offseason, but I mean, you
got a rise. It was a batting champion, Machado All Star,

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Fernando Tatis Junior All Star, crowning Worth Rookie of the
or excuse me, a Merrow Rookie of the Year, Croninworth
All Star. Like they even if they're pitching is but
sub par offensively that'll be good enough to get them.
You know, ninety plus wins right there.

Speaker 2 (02:12:33):
I great, dude, I'm with you. I think they're legit. Yeah,
they're not going anywhere. Here's the team that I'm shocked at.
I don't think you're the only one three Giants right now.

Speaker 4 (02:12:47):
I will say this. A few years ago, the Giants
got off to a really good start and people wrote
them off and said, oh, they'll fade, they'll fait, they'll fade,
and they I think they won like one hundred and
five games and won the division, and won the division
by one game over the Dots, and they played each
other in the wildcart round. There's no I guess it
can happen again. I don't necessarily see it happening. I
do think they'll fall back down to earth at some point,

(02:13:08):
but I mean they've they've they've been playing well and
you know, to be hitting the ball well and pitching
extremely well too. So I don't think they're going to
be able to maintain it. But stranger things have happened.
I just don't trust that pitching staff. I don't lie.

Speaker 3 (02:13:25):
Cubs nine and seven.

Speaker 4 (02:13:29):
I only trust it because I don't like the division
as a whole. Somebody has to win the NL Central,
so I kind of look at it at why not
the Cubs, why not Milwaukee? But nobody screw You know,
if Cincinnati were to make some sort of run, that
wouldn't surprise me either. I think that. I think that
division is a bit of a jumble mess outside of Pittsburgh.

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Who's the bottom feeder.

Speaker 3 (02:13:53):
Yeah, I thought it'd be better. Yeah, they will be sorry.
I do believe in their line. I love Elie.

Speaker 4 (02:14:01):
Yeah, Ellie's amazing, and uh, you know, Hunter Green's coming
into his own not walking as many guys and a
striking out guys at a crazy clip. So it would
not surprise me at all of Cincinnati. You know, it
made a run at this.

Speaker 2 (02:14:14):
Thing, all right, the mL East Phillies eight and five,
Mets nine and four.

Speaker 4 (02:14:27):
I trust the Phillies more than I trust the Mets.
But I do think that's going to be a dog
fight at the top of that division. Two and uh,
lest we forget, and I know you were going to
bring them up. The biggest outlier probably in the entire
sport so far, the three in San Atlanta Braves.

Speaker 7 (02:14:44):
That was it?

Speaker 4 (02:14:45):
Was that real?

Speaker 3 (02:14:47):
Or is that a lie?

Speaker 4 (02:14:49):
I refuse to believe that that's real. They're too good,
even without a cleaning in the lineup right now, they're
too They're too good to be this bad. And I
saw stat it was like no team has ever started
Owen six and made the postseason. It's one hundred and
sixty two games. Like you can overcome an OWEN six
star to make the playoffs. I refuse to believe. On
April twelfth, the Atlanta Braves will not be a playoff team. Now.

(02:15:13):
Whether they win the Eastern Division, we'll see, But the
Atlanta Braves, I'll do a Charles Barkley guarantee that they'll
make the playoffs. They'll find their way into the postseason.
They're too good not to. Isn't it wild? It really is.
It's it's unreal that they can be this bad offensively
considering the kind of talent that they have, and that

(02:15:35):
they just can't score runs. I mean, they won a
World Series without Akouon.

Speaker 3 (02:15:42):
They can't you know, make it.

Speaker 2 (02:15:43):
Through the you know, and they're gonna get Strider back
to I mean, you know, it's pretty wild, right it is.

Speaker 4 (02:15:52):
But it's also it goes back to what we said
before we started this. This exercise. You know, you can't
get too excited about what happens the first part of
the season. There's so much time left. You know, you
don't want to dig yourself a hole. But it doesn't
mean that you can get off to a terrible start
at three and ten. But it doesn't mean that the
season is over and it's time to pack it in,

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you know. You know, it's funny.

Speaker 2 (02:16:16):
We're in April and I would just a little exercise,
and I'm thinking of myself truthfully, the next meaningful game
in my town.

Speaker 4 (02:16:29):
Will be the Eagles.

Speaker 7 (02:16:31):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (02:16:31):
So is there just not a level of excitement for
the Phillies or is it just too early?

Speaker 3 (02:16:37):
No, there was the Dodger Series people were into and
youre's excitement for him?

Speaker 4 (02:16:43):
Yeah, because there they're a legit contender for sure. The
teams in the l If you.

Speaker 2 (02:16:47):
Look at like baseballs, you just look at the next
truly meaningful game because in baseball won't happen till October,
like I think the Phillies will won the division. Yeah, uh,
and then the most meaningful game won't happen to the playoffs, right,
And so there's no sixers or no flyers playoffs and

(02:17:11):
all people can talk about right now is the Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (02:17:16):
Yeah, until until Week one when the defense starts. That's
Are you still riding high off of the Super Bowl
or if people already moved on and now they're looking
forward to this next season.

Speaker 3 (02:17:28):
No, people love the Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (02:17:29):
That's great.

Speaker 2 (02:17:30):
I love it during during the moment there there they are.
I just want games. I don't want football. So we're
doing some spring workouts, so I'm enjoying that. Yeah, along

(02:17:51):
with baseball because we've had we've already had two tournaments. Okay,
we're gonna get rained out today. Creates pretty nanty out
this weekend. Yeah, yeah, all right, let's say quick to
you know, the brain is going to join us. We'll
take a look at sports from a betting standpoint, and
then get back to some draft stuff where the fellas kfie,

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Speaker 3 (02:19:51):
Let's go to our man, the brain. Good morning, Brain,
Good morning buddy.

Speaker 7 (02:19:58):
How are you.

Speaker 4 (02:20:01):
Good.

Speaker 2 (02:20:01):
We're getting shocked with rain, you know, but it's actually
an Augusta, it's not so let's take a look at
augusta moving day.

Speaker 3 (02:20:13):
Brain. How are you looking at this tournament?

Speaker 4 (02:20:16):
Shape?

Speaker 3 (02:20:17):
It up to be nice with the big boys up top.

Speaker 7 (02:20:20):
Yeah, looks and look, it's probably always my favorite tournament.
I do love the Masters. Look at so many potential
great storylines, right, you know, Rory find to get that
elusive tournament win for him that he's been so close
to many times. Has me able to do it? Threenty
round one he was just playing so great and he

(02:20:42):
gets the two double bogies in a row yesterday, just
a beautiful round. He's only two shots back. Justin Rose,
steely grady veteran. Probably don't think he's gonna hang on,
you know. Look, you get him around eight point odds
to one tournament if you think he can no inders
in that for me, I think for an older player
to hold on for two rounds, just don't see that

(02:21:04):
the cards. Look, the question is at Rory's time, it's
a good chance to anyone. But again that's the leader work.
A lot of people can win, right, I mean day
Shambo certainly has a good chance. Corey Connor's good ball
striker as a shot, and then of course Scotti Scheffler
is right there as well too. You can never count
him out. He's only three shots back. I'm just looking

(02:21:26):
forward to watching. In terms of picking winner, these things
are so hard, and I always say Anthony, picking a
winner in the tournaments is hard. I did Rory to
come in the top ten, so I don't have to
deal with any you know, I thought he was gonna
have a good tournament top ten, I'm gonna be I'll
be safe, hopefully. But if he has to pick a winner,
but I just had to pick someone, I would pick Rory.

(02:21:48):
I think he's playing really well in control of this game,
and he seems it seems that maybe like this is
just his time, so to speak, just to put the
demons to bed, so to speak. But that being said,
DoD during any particular golfer where it's so hard to
win this tournament, is.

Speaker 4 (02:22:03):
There anybody on the outside brad of the top you know,
three four that you think maybe able to make a
surge and make it interesting, whether it's a Jason Day
or a Matsuyama or Morikawa who are kind of like
five six strokes back at this point.

Speaker 7 (02:22:14):
Yeah, Listen, the great thing about August is again with
you know thirteen and fifteen, this those are potential always
eagle holes, right, always potential egle holes and maybe you know,
just maybe you get you know, lucky and they can
somehow do something like that. I mean, look, I certainly
know a problem taking a shot with someone like that,

(02:22:36):
but Charl Hatton, you can get around point to one.
I mean he's only three shots back. And this is
a guy that is, in my opinion, a world class
golfer that certainly has its chance and again only three
shots back. Nothing crazy. Victor Hoblin's a guy always. Victor
Hobbin's always been a guy. What I like about Victor
Hoblin guys, He's a guy to me that can always

(02:22:58):
shoot crazy low. He's closer to thirty to one area.
You know, he's four shots back, But that's the kind
of guy to me. He's think to say, justin Thomas,
that kind of way where he could pull out like
a sixty three sixty two, maybe more easier than some
of the other golfers can. And maybe he has some
more variants to him, which in the end, if you're
looking for a long shot, you're looking for variants. That's

(02:23:19):
the guy I think always has a really low round
in him.

Speaker 3 (02:23:22):
Wow, that's interesting.

Speaker 7 (02:23:25):
Yeah, I mean he's a player. Look when you're looking
first you're not looking for someone consistent. But if you're
looking for a third to one shot, you're looking for
a guy that maybe you know, not just goes seventy
one to seventy sixty. Now you're looking for a guy
that he can get a sixty three sixty four. And
to me, he's one of those kind of players that
has the ability to have one of those you know,

(02:23:46):
eight under kind of rounds than he does. He could
easily be winning the tournament after this round, let alone
having to win it after two. Right, he could get
there just in one round.

Speaker 3 (02:23:54):
Yeah, yeah, is your eddie?

Speaker 2 (02:23:57):
Do you look at you know, would you look at
the the tour like to try to do top five,
top ten, top twenties.

Speaker 7 (02:24:05):
I mean yeah, I mean listen, yeah, I mean I
always prefer Now it's funny for me again, I used
to golf was the one so it was quote unquote
hole in my game. And what I mean by that
is I loved betting golf so much. It was the
one thing I allowed myself to do that wasn't ev
plus expected value. It's the only leak I had. And

(02:24:26):
because I would always try to chase that, these Dac
Nadal winning the picking the winner the holding golf tournaments, guys,
And what I mean by hold is when you bet
a football game, right, you're laying minus one ten on
both sides. Beholds a little over. You know you've fifty
two point three percent to break even the hold. It's
a little over four percent or whatnot. It's nothing. It's

(02:24:46):
not a crazy hardhold to beat the holding golf. The
holding golf is usually around forty percent, which means for
everything about this, for every dollar the sportsbooks take in,
they're paying back sixty cents. I need to really think
of about that. When you really think about that, no
one can beat that in the universe. It's impossible. I'm
talking about picking the winners. Okay, so I realized, what

(02:25:08):
am I trying to do? Chasing? No, it's fun, I
get it. It's fun. Right, So because it's fun, well,
if I'm doing professionally, it became an expensive hobby. I
stopped doing. But picking top ten's top five head ted
matchups that the hold is very very reasonable, Okay, much
more reasonable at least then, because a lot of times

(02:25:29):
it's a yes no market. There's no yes no market
in the winners. It's just a yes they're holding so
much of a hold again, they're doing it. Guys, every
one listening. Just have fun. Sure you want about ten
bucks twenty nothing that's going to kill you, no problem
with it. But if you're betting real big money on that,
I don't care who you are, you're not going to win.

Speaker 4 (02:25:48):
Yeah, that's interesting.

Speaker 7 (02:25:50):
Just keeping it real, just keeping no No, I got you,
all right.

Speaker 3 (02:25:54):
Fig, let's turn our attention here. All right, you're ready?
I got fron of me.

Speaker 4 (02:25:59):
The wins totals lovely. You know, I wanted to pivot here.
This is excellent, great minds, Anthony, Oh good, good room.
Why was a joke?

Speaker 7 (02:26:15):
Great minds? I love I'm joking with him. He knows that.

Speaker 3 (02:26:22):
All right, you ready? Fig? Had you start off?

Speaker 4 (02:26:28):
Well, I was gonna take it because it's really sort
of it's encapsulated around the NFL Draft to a certain degree.
And so I look at a team like say Pittsburgh
right now, I'm looking at their win total being eight
and a half going into the season. They don't have
a quarterback. So is their quarterback going to be Aaron Rodgers?
Is it going to be someone they trade for? Maybe
they could potentially trade for Kirk Cousins, or is it

(02:26:48):
gonna be somebody that they draft at eight and a
half over under at this point in time, not knowing
what the quarterback position is going to be for the Steelers,
what would you do in that situation? How do you
feel those odds are for them at this point?

Speaker 7 (02:27:01):
Yeah, great questions. It's funny like for me and it's
it's I think the market believes they're going to get
Aaron Rodgers. Okay, I believe that's being pricing because if
they don't get a quarterback that eight and a half,
If they get Aaron Rodgers, it's not going to go
to nine and a half. It's going to stay at
eight and a half. It's gonna it's not going to
move up now if they have to stick with Meason

(02:27:23):
Rudolph or whatever they're going to have in there or whatnot,
it's clearly going to go down at least a game. Okay.
So to me again, I'm not playing it because even
if they get Rogers, I know Tomlin wins nine games
every single year. I get it, death taxis Tomlin wins
his nine games, But it's a pass for me. Again,

(02:27:43):
I bet like six or seven seventh season win totals,
that's not one of the seven I bet. For me,
it's just a layoff because the uncertainty quarterback to me again,
I'd rather not bet on something I don't have enough
certainty on, and even if they were to get Rogers
still wouldn't even like it, guys, To be honest with you,
either way, I think it's the right number.

Speaker 3 (02:28:00):
How many How many overs did you bet?

Speaker 7 (02:28:05):
One to two hundreds? One, two and two, three and two,
four and two, five and two, five and three six three?

Speaker 4 (02:28:13):
I did?

Speaker 7 (02:28:13):
Actually I bet ten things so far, ten that one
I thought six overs, four unders.

Speaker 4 (02:28:18):
Six overs.

Speaker 3 (02:28:19):
I'll tell you one of your overs is the Chargers.

Speaker 7 (02:28:24):
Did not bet the Chargers over, did not bet they're
under either. I bet them to win the division, though,
and they I'm long the Chargers nine and a half.
You can get juice to the over. Also, Guys, what
I'm doing these sometimes I'm ticking off. I think it
is a bad number, is me as much as anything else.
The Chargers I lean over, I lean over. Look. They

(02:28:45):
have the recipe right, good quarterback, good coach. And that's
a recipe that usually no guarantee, guys, but usually is
a recipe that leads to success. I do think the
Chargers get the ten wins. Didn't bet it because I
don't want to bet over nine and a half. That's
just a little too rich for me. Usually eight and
half the highest on over one of that usually, although
some exceptions. I did take over Detroit last year, but

(02:29:09):
it's usually a big number like that. I'm looking to
go to the unders. But I do think the Chargers
do get home. But it's not what I bet.

Speaker 4 (02:29:15):
What about San Francisco lost some guys traded de ball away.
They're kind of aging out a little bit. Still have
to extend brock party. I'm looking at ten and a
half for San Francisco. What do you think about that number?
Did you bet that number over under?

Speaker 7 (02:29:28):
I did bet that. I bet the under. Now here's
the thing, guys, if you look at their schedule, if
you want to pull up their schedule, you're literally going
to think that Kyle Shanahan made up the schedule. Okay,
You're only going to say to yourself this, this can't be.
This is the easiest schedule created on God's green Earth?
Was this schedule? I still took the under? Why because

(02:29:49):
despite having an incredibly easy schedule it's kind of why
I took the Falcons under ten and a half last year.
I didn't think the team was that great, and I
thought that from the schedule. I don't think the forty
nine ers teams that great. I like the quarterback outside
of the quarterback who I like. I don't trust Pcastro
his helf going forward in his career. I hope he

(02:30:09):
doesn't go to Joe Ow and beat her out. I
really hope so. But I wouldn't be shocked if he
did to me. I just think that team is very
overrated in what people they saw the Super Bowl team
from two years ago. I think that's still lingering in
people's minds. I think this is a below average team.
So if they're a below average team, I don't think
they're going eleven and six despite an easy schedule.

Speaker 3 (02:30:30):
All right, give me, give me the ones that you played.

Speaker 7 (02:30:34):
Then get malty, buddy. Here's here we go. I'll try
to you know unders. I got to did four unders.
I did them under ten and a half. The other
unders I did were if he don't don't hang up
with me. I took the Eagles under eleven and a half.

Speaker 3 (02:30:49):
Yeah, I get it.

Speaker 2 (02:30:50):
I mean it's it's hard, and they they're replacing a
lot of guts vicious.

Speaker 7 (02:30:54):
Did you see their schedule?

Speaker 3 (02:30:55):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (02:30:55):
I did, Yeah, vicious, absolutely vicious. It's hard to go
five and they lost a lot of things in free agency.
As it's hard. It's not easy to win twelve games NFL.
It flips up and down every year. I thought the
number should be in ten and a half. I took
Seattle Seahawks under eight and a half. I think it's
team downgraded. I think it's team downgraded. I do. I

(02:31:18):
don't think they're gonna be as good this year as
they were last year. Their total last year open seven
a half. I think they won. I think they won nine.
Maybe we maybe Eve won ten with Gino, But I
don't think they're gonna have a winning record this year.
I do not like what they've done. I don't like
losing Metcalf or Cup. I think that's a severe downgrade.
And I think Gino Smith or Sam Donold's going to
be a downgrade as well. The other unders I had,

(02:31:41):
I had one other under, oh, Buffalo Bills twelve and
a half. Now, I did this because most of the
market had eleven and a half. I found in one
place at twelve and a half, and I thought that
was just too high. I think the numbers should be
eleven and a half. You can get twelve and a half.
I think it does narrow to play. In terms of overs.
My favorite bet on the card, the juice has moved

(02:32:02):
a lot, but it was my favorite bet. I took
the Vikings over eight and a half wins getting juiced
Ayre now laying pretty significant juice and over. The Vikings
are probably my favorite team this year in terms of
what the market thinks of them versus my expectations. I
think without the quarterback, they're arguably the most talented team
in the NFL. Yeah, I don't. I honestly believe that.
I think there may be the forgetting quarterback, which.

Speaker 4 (02:32:24):
Is a huge if I get it last year too.

Speaker 7 (02:32:27):
Yeah, they won fourteen games. They want fourteen, that's my point. Yeah,
and they have a coach. It seems like, Anthony, it
seems like you could stick me and you out there
when I'm watching Joshua Dobbs and who's the guy the
guy who Nick Mollens throw for five hundred yards a
game with this coach? And then and sam Donold who
was stung for everyone be a borderline MVP candidate. I'm

(02:32:51):
just gonna take my chance to say, win nine games
in a very, very tough division still even at current numbers.
Broncos over eight and a half again, numbers should have
been nine and a half, and since moved to nine
and a half. I knew that number would moved to
nine and a half, so I betted over eight and
a half again. Great coach, good Yeah, quarterbacks, Hey, we're.

Speaker 3 (02:33:09):
Up against it. You want to give us real quick
and then what kind of plays you got today?

Speaker 4 (02:33:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (02:33:14):
I apologize, Yeah, I talked quickly, Okay, real quick, guys.
Baseball Philly Sanchez over five and a half strikeouts plus
one twenty seven and three is last ten, averaging seven
dig uptick in velocity. Francis of Toronto over three and
a half days laying a dollar sixty ten and one
is last six, averaging six a game. Miles Michelos over

(02:33:35):
five and a half hits. He's forty four and forty
one got over the last two years. Martin Press my
favorite bet of the day over four and a half
hits eighteen to eight last year, sixteen to four of
the year before, so he's thirty two and ten in
the last two years, over four and a half. It's
against the Red Sox Jay two of the games. Who
cares like the Royals plus the dollars twenty today over
Cleveland fifty to fifty game and I like the Red

(02:33:57):
Sox laying less than a dollar fifty over the White Sox.
Fox worst team League, take my chances.

Speaker 2 (02:34:02):
There you go, my brother. Listen, have a great day.
Good luck to you. Buddy, enjoyed that weekend, Thanks Bret.

Speaker 8 (02:34:09):
Oh.

Speaker 7 (02:34:09):
By the way, Fits, I have the Raiders over six
and a half as well. Let's go that is well,
there you go, buddy.

Speaker 4 (02:34:16):
The Raiders over.

Speaker 3 (02:34:17):
Figgy loves that.

Speaker 4 (02:34:18):
I'll take it.

Speaker 3 (02:34:18):
Figgy loves that.

Speaker 2 (02:34:21):
You too, Buddy. Take care of brother. All right, we'll
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Speaker 3 (02:35:04):
Will you watch you?

Speaker 4 (02:35:04):
Dude?

Speaker 3 (02:35:05):
What's what's your what do you do?

Speaker 5 (02:35:07):
Like?

Speaker 2 (02:35:07):
They got the dear little boys. God bless him. He's adorable.

Speaker 3 (02:35:12):
Thank you. Bro put a disposition too. He looks like
you can see it.

Speaker 4 (02:35:16):
Oh, he's amazing. He's the happiest baby you'll ever meet.
Almost never when he when he cries, you know there's
something really wrong because, uh, he just has the greatest,
sweetest demeanor, makes friends with everybody, flirts with every woman
that he sees. So he's uh, he's he's amazing to
be around. He really is.

Speaker 2 (02:35:36):
That's cool, man. Yeah, God, that's awesome. So so what
do you got on the tap for the weekend?

Speaker 4 (02:35:43):
Oh? Well, run some marriages. We just got back in town.
As a matter of fact. As a matter of fact,
my family and I, he and my wife and I
were in Chicago Mark's Neck of the Woods earlier this
week for my wife's a teacher. She was on spring break,
so we got to take in Shy Town in the frigid,
cold temperatures of thirty eight grease, which for me, being
a West Coast softy, might as well be you know,
the frozen tundra, you know. So, but that was a

(02:36:07):
fun experience with snow thirty eight for you, Anthony. I'm
sure you're wearing you know, shorts outside.

Speaker 5 (02:36:12):
So.

Speaker 4 (02:36:14):
You know, I hate thirty eight degrees, but I feel you. Yeah.
And we went to the Cubs Padres game on Saturday,
and we lasted maybe about four four in the third
innings when you say, let's get the hell up out
of here, I'm freezing my tail off. I can't feel
like to market to baseball and freezing cold weather. I guess, yeah.
And you know it rigally is like you know, it's
right off of the lakes, so you know, you have

(02:36:34):
the wind blowing in. I used to cover the Cubs, yeah,
so you know. Yeah, so but it was fun. It
was a fun atmosphere overall. We all had a good time.
So so this weekend we're just gonna chill for the
most part, just chill back, recover, run a couple of errands,
you know, go to the store, that sort of thing.
That's pretty much it. And taking taking some of the
masters when I get it, when I get a free
minute here for sure.

Speaker 2 (02:36:55):
Nice yeah, nice watch any shows. There is a great
show this I have to tell you. We watched it
last night that Seth Rogan the studio.

Speaker 3 (02:37:06):
No I know of it.

Speaker 4 (02:37:07):
I've seen a previews.

Speaker 3 (02:37:09):
It's great. It's it's really good.

Speaker 4 (02:37:11):
Yeah, we jumped on late. I know it's a couple
of years late now, but we started watching Severance.

Speaker 2 (02:37:17):
And really good because the new season. Yeah yeah, so
I've not seen that. We're We're not We're the two
on the two were watching?

Speaker 7 (02:37:25):
Is that?

Speaker 3 (02:37:26):
And I love Mobland with Tom Hardy.

Speaker 4 (02:37:30):
Oh, I don't know if I'm aware of that one.

Speaker 2 (02:37:32):
That's when Paramount plus it's a it's a British gangster series. Okay,
Tom Hardy perfectly, he's the best, Like she's incredible and
uh this this is uh, this series is is awesome.

Speaker 3 (02:37:49):
It's really good. It's called Mobland.

Speaker 4 (02:37:51):
Mobland, all right, Well to check that one out. Severn
is good. It started starts out really slow, but it
really does suck yeat. People love it. Yeah, it's really good.

Speaker 3 (02:37:59):
He they just love it.

Speaker 4 (02:38:02):
I wasn't sure what to expect initially, but uh, you know,
it got such rave reviews, and I think it came
out like three years ago, so it's you know, you
mentioned there's a new season coming, but like I said,
it's a bit of a slow start, but if you
can stick with the first episode or two, it'll really second.
So seventh is one I would definitely definitely recommend. Yeah,
that's Apple plus Apple TV.

Speaker 3 (02:38:21):
Yeah yeah, yeah, Oh, Apples get some good stuff. They
do well.

Speaker 2 (02:38:25):
It's going to be uh, it's listened that NBA ends tomorrow,
so we'll have the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (02:38:32):
Yeah, we'll have to play in this week.

Speaker 2 (02:38:34):
Yeah, yeah, play in and then the playoffs start, and
then the NHL same thing. The playoffs start next week,
and then it's the old draft all the time.

Speaker 4 (02:38:45):
That's right where draft is creeping up on us. I know,
I know. It's the best time of year except for
when football is actually being played.

Speaker 2 (02:38:53):
You know, exactly exactly. I'll be watching spring game Man
State spring games is gonna be right.

Speaker 4 (02:39:01):
We are in the season of spring games, which, by
the way, the transfer portal is also open. Yes, had
fun with that. College sports, college football.

Speaker 2 (02:39:10):
I'm probably the best. Thanks for haggling with us today. Everybody,
have a great day. We love you, See you next week.

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