The Fellas with Anthony Gargano & Jason Fitz talk NFL Draft, Aaron Rodgers, & NBA Playoffs!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:54):
The way tire buying should be Anthony Gargano.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
I'm Jason Fitz and you know, look, if you've listened
to this show at all, you know that sometimes I'm
a little tough or the NBA. Sometimes I'm tough on
long regular seasons. Sometimes I'm tough on Major League Baseball.
I admit all of these things. But then when we
finally get to playoff action, that's when the world can rejoice.
That's when everybody can step back and say, Okay, now

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there's no more well we got to see it in
the playoffs. And this year's playoffs are the perfect example
of that because, like my whole point when we get
to the playoffs versus the regular season is looking at
Oklahoma City. They're the perfect example of what's wrong at
times with the NBA regular season because Oklahoma City has
just had a great regular season, and the first thing

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everybody's gonna say is, well, the playoffs are a different
pre to basketball. The playoffs hit differently throughout, and that
is the narrative that can end starting now, like this
is the ultimate test to the narrative of can you
trust a team until you've seen them do it in
the playoffs because the thunder throughout the course of the
regular season and I I got you now, Anthony, Yeah,

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how are your brother?

Speaker 3 (02:06):
Howel pal?

Speaker 2 (02:08):
I feel good? I feel better than you. You said
you saund a little rough.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
I wish I could I wish I could reach through
the microphone and give you a big old hug.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
But I missed you. I missed you last week, buddy.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yeah, how are you? How are we feeling?

Speaker 4 (02:20):
No, we got a little bit of the uh spring flu,
so you gotta just you gotta forgive me here.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
If I sound a little off.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Today, you know what. It's uh, it's only gonna make
the it's it's only gonna make your voice sexier. Like
there's two different ways that it goes when you're sick.
You either like if you're me and you sound like
a Preprojett pre pubescent child. Most of the time. When
you get sick, you sound like, you know, I don't know,
I'm some weird version of Kermit the Frog. When I'm sick,
you have this like just this good quality, like you know,

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Philly sort of Italian vibe. That's just you get sick
and all of a sudden, all me is like, uh oh,
somebody made the boss mad, right, Like you've got like.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
That cool factor to it when it happens like it's good.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
It's good.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Brother. Yeah, Well thanks, bro, I'm geeked.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
Up for you. You're geeked up for me.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
Well, yeah, you were talking about the playoffs, so I'm
gek I'm.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Geeked up for Oklahoma City, dude, Like, I genuinely geeked up,
like because it just it wears me out. Man. Like
the thing that wears me out is we spend all
year watching good teams saying it doesn't matter until they
get to the playoffs. And Oklahoma City, not for nothing,
is really really really freaking good. And it's a stacked West.
And the hard part about that is that, like as

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good as they are, it's going to be a gauntlet
for anybody to get through the West, right, And like,
I just I want this to happen, just to stop
the narrative of regular season doesn't matter because playoff basketball
is so different because at some point it just if
you want, if you want all of us to embrace
the entirety of the NBA, then you're gonna have to
have some semblance of balance between what happens in the

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playoffs and the regular season.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
Yeah, that's a great point. It really is a great point.
I give Okay See a ton of credit because you're right.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
They were a.

Speaker 4 (04:10):
Team that tried all year long. They were a team
that they didn't take off, right, Like, even when they
had to dial back their starters and rest. They're so
deep that their second unit was really good.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
So now I'm with you, man, I am.

Speaker 4 (04:31):
I think the West, the Western playoffs, the Western Conference
playoffs are going to be incredible because the team that,
like I think is the scary I think both LA
teams are live and the team that I think is
the scariest is the Clippers.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
And that and let me be the first to be
honest about what we all do to the Thunder, we're
doing a little bit to the Clippers. We're letting narratives
take over things, you know what I mean, Like, the
Clippers are a much better basketball team than I think
most people want to acknowledge it because all we continually
say is yeah, but it's the Clippers, you know. And
the easy part of the Clippers narrative is a the

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brand of the Clippers is not particularly trustworthy in these situations.
And then b.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
Harden has a history of just forgetting out of.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Basketball in the playoffs. So you've got a team like
the Clippers that I agree with you are live taking
on a team like the Nuggets, who usually in resume,
you feel really confident with the Nuggets, but this is
a team that fired their head coach with a few
games left in the regular season. Like, let's not pretend
the Denver isn't in an absolute, like an abject disaster

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phase right now, even if they played pretty good basketball
throughout the course of the year. You can't make it
change like that right before the playoffs and have me
feel particularly confident.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
No, And here's the thing with Kawhi healthy, he's just
such a great ballplayer. That team is so dangerous between
hard and playing great ball. Norman Powell, who will give
it consistency, scor and Zubac. I think they're a matchup

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night there for Denver. I think Dever is in trouble.
I actually think they're wrong teams favor.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
That's interesting because I mean, in jokicch we trust is
such an easy thing to say to this, but you're right.
I think the hard part about the Clippers is that
we're finally getting the moment we've been waiting the last
several years for. Like I remember, you know, when Kawhi
picked the Clippers, and all of a sudden, the sports

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talk narrative was, oh my god, the Clippers gonna you know,
be better than the Lakers for the next x amount
of years, and then, as you well know, Paul George
not well, you know, not not able to stay healthy
or be any version of Paul George, and all of
that just continued to implode in front of our eyes,
very Clipper like, and I do I'll be the first
to admit like part of the reason with the Clippers

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is because I have trust issues with Harden.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
I've picked Harden before in big games.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Now this is the Game seven. He's gonna come through
and you know, as my friend Sarah Spain used to
always say, he forgets out of basketball in the biggest moments,
and so I get a little get I get nervous
in a Nuggets Clippers series that if that series goes
you know, seven games, and I gotta trust Harden, but
it Kawhi, you know, becomes a little bit of the
makeup on that. So it's it's interesting because, like I said,

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usually be really easy to say, hey, given the year in,
year out success the Nuggets have had in the playoffs,
I trust Timber in the playoffs. I don't trust anything
about a brand new you know, a brand new coach
coming into this thing like that just makes me wildly
nervous going into the playoffs. It's just I know they
haven't lost with their interim coach yet, but that's just
nothing about that makes me feel comfortable.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
No, no, and listen, I mean you bring up a
great point about Harden. I I saw it live right,
like right, there was a series against the last time
the Sixers were actually like legitimate, they were playing the
Celtics a couple of years ago. They were up three
to two, they had a chance to close the game
out in Philadelphia, and Harden, who was spectacular in two

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of the games, was just awful and then he quit
in Game seven, and then that was it and him
and em Bean and that's where they really kind of
got that lost Moniker thing. But I think Kawhi Kunter
acts anything big game worry with Harden.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
I think that Leonard just counteracts that.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
He he we almost He's probably the best basketball player
underrated player over the last you know, thirty years. He's
a great we forget because of the injury, and he's
you know, very mercurial.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
He is a great, great ball player.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
Like when he talked Toronto to the jambions hip, that
was all.

Speaker 5 (09:02):
The him well, and he doesn't have the same force
of marketing himself that some of the NBA players have,
Like he seems to be comfortable being quieter.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
It's interesting because like, look, I think if you were
gonna tell me right now that we can get Clippers
Lakers in the Western Conference Final, that's a sexy matchup
for obvious reasons, like just for conversation points, like you know,
here I am saying I want the Thunder to advance,
but if you give me Clippers Lakers, that would feel
pretty sexy. I'm not gonna lie and this Clippers team

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if they're able to go on a run. I just
there's a part of me, as a fan of a
team that sucks every year in every sport, there's a
part of me that will always say, hey, it's just time.
You know, a Clippers run would be a beautiful like
a Thunder run is a great story because I think
we remember Oklahoma City more for the way it was
dismantled them for the sex success that they had when

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they had the guys they had. I think we remember
the Clippers is a brand for their failures all the time.
So like in these situations, it's just you know, there's
this this Disney movie ending I would love of the
Clippers finally going on a run and getting a championship,
taking down the Lakers in the process. Like that's the
ultimate rudy sort of story that we could we could
absolutely use coming out of the West. I think I

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think there's there's charm to the Clippers coming through, which
sounds wildly condescending to the great players that they have.
It just feels like, as a brand, I want the
Clippers to go on a run.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
No lit I feel you, man, I get it, Like
my heart will be with Okac because I think they
deserve it.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
And you know, I love SGA.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
I love the depth of that team and the I
have a soft spot for a team that really tried.
You brought it up earlier about how they try all
season long, Like I love that. I respect that, and
to me, the gods should reward that. But I do think,
but I do you think the Clippers can be dancey

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and then the Lakers?

Speaker 1 (11:02):
Dude?

Speaker 3 (11:03):
Like you know, I mean that team's.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
Good, that the whole dynamic exchanged. And how about the
week that Nico Harrison had.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Like, I mean, there's just nothing at this point. Nico
just needs to, you know, just to hide. He just
needs to go away for a minute.

Speaker 4 (11:23):
I want to have a plass conference without cameras and recorders. Now, Listen,
I was a beat writer, right, so I knew like
there are times when you would have a session with
the writers, which is fine, but to say no, no
recorders and in this ey and age, not a camera.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
Wow. When when you make a move like trading Luca,
you have to be so confident in it that you're
willing to answer every question that's just And you know,
I've read a lot of the transcripts from those and
he gets testy every time he's asked about it, and
he gives the answer of like, well, I've already answered this,

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and the fact is he isn't. He hasn't. He hasn't
answered so many of the follow up questions from qualified
writers that like, I understand that at some point it
gets just boring when you're sitting there having to answer
the same question over and over and over again. But
I also understand that the job of the writers covering
that team, and Frank think the writers covering the NBA
is to try and get more of a sense of

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the why and the how of everything that went down.
And that's where Nico's basically saying I did it, I
want to move on. That's awesome, but that's not the
way the world works, especially if you actually, like I'm
not a journalist, my friend, I've never never hidden that,
but as someone that has been and is you, it's
part of your wiring. I just think the journalists have
should have every right and opportunity to answer or to

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ask you as many questions about the process, and Nico
has to be comfortable answering that, like you just you
cannot make that move and not think that they you're
going to be just asked about it for years to come.
You just have to be prepared for it.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
Exactly exactly. The Lakers go or run. They have life
infused in them because of Luca. Luca goes on. You know,
these gms, they only speak, you know, a couple times
a year. They'll do a preseason kind of get together

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state in the franchise once in a while. If you're lucky,
you get them you know, once or twice during the season,
and then there's always.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
A postseason wrap up. And it's amazing.

Speaker 4 (13:39):
I don't know where these gms suddenly became like, you know,
presidents of.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
Of you know, State. I mean It's unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
These dudes don't talk like, they don't answer like you
have one these press conferences and they're controlled. It's like, dude,
you trade Luca dodgits, You're this is on a griddle.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
Mm hmm. I mean you train Luka Doncic. You You've
got to be prepared, prepared for every single question, and
you've just got to know that there is one ultimate,
oh my god that can't happen and that'll make it
ever go away, and that's Luca immediately going to the
Lakers and winning a championship. And there's a very real
chance that Luca has gone immediately to the Lakers and

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may very well immediately win a championship. But that's just
you know, the MAVs are sitting at home and now
all the players can finally stop answering questions on behalf
of their GM because he's not answering any of them.
It's it's it's shocking. We got a lot to break down.
We're gonna break down obviously. The NFL drafted acres are
less than a week and away.

Speaker 4 (14:45):
That I can't wait. This is awesome, dude, I can't
wait for it.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yeah, I am beyond stoked. We'll get into the NBA playoffs,
but I want to get Anthony's coming up next. Yeah,
it's all It's all oh here right now. It's amazing.
By the way, I know, I was about to take
a free quick. It's what's crazy to me is that
we have actual NBA playoffs, we have actual NHL playoffs,

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and the most talked about thing this week, the most
watched thing this week will be and it's not even close,
the drafting of a bunch of players, most of whom
won't work out. And that and I'm saying that is
the biggest draft fan in the world. All of that
to say, Aaron Rodgers spoke and it actually has huge
implications on this week's draft. Will tell you about it,

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what it means, not just for what he already said,
but what it means for next week. We'll do that
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There we go, h Anthony Gargano, Jason Fitz, the fellas
on Fox Sports Radio, Tempting the gods this early in
the morning and Aaron Rodgers spoke last week on Pat McAfee,

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and I want to be clear first and foremost.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
You know, we don't need to rehash everything from you
know what he said.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
It's fine. He came out and gave his sort of
peace to the world of he's dealing with some things
in his personal inner circle that have him not sure
he's ready to commit on where to play and what
he's going to do. He made it clear he's not
keeping anybody beholden to him. He's let everybody know with
the Steelers and anywhere else that he's not sure where

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things stand, and let everybody know he's willing to play cheap,
but he's not sure right now. Retirement could still be
on the table. And I looked at all of this
and this was the most stunning part of it to me, Anthony.
For next week, because the NFL Draft starts on Thursday,
we knew coming into the off season that there were
a limited number of quarterbacks and there would be a
bit of a musical chairs happening. And somebody, whenever you've

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played musical chairs as a kid, was always left without
a seat. I am done that as we sit here
right now, there's a very real chance that the team
left without a seat is the Pittsburgh Steelers, one of
the best run, most respected organizations in all of sports,
could literally be sitting here saying we got Mason Rudolph

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and no, like they're picking twenty first on Thursday. And
now if they don't know if they can commit to
Aaron Rodgers, which we all thought might be the case,
the question is do they have to get desperate And
this is a terrible quarterback class to get desperate for, Like,
this isn't the class to give up future resources to
move up to get one of these guys. These guys
need to sit and need time to develop, and like,

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that doesn't feel like the Steelers plan, Anthony. I'm just
stunned that such a smart organization has been left standing
with no real option to quarterback. If Aaron Rodgers doesn't play.

Speaker 4 (18:47):
No, and here's the thing now, I will tell you,
I believe where's the draft green Bay? Yeah, Thursday, ros
tells you he's coming to Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
Oh, he takes the thunder, he takes the moment.

Speaker 4 (19:05):
Yes, I believe that he wants the headlines and he
wants to let everybody know, especially after you know how
last year went down. My prediction is Thursday is Aaron Rodgers'
Day and he tries to steal the thunder and he

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announced makes some brand announcement He's gonna sign with the
Steelers and blah blah blah.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
I first and foremost, that's why you're a writer, brother,
because like I need, I needed you to write the
script for me, because this is brilliant.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
I'm buying it all. I'm just imagining.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
As they're about to start the draft, Aaron Rodgers announced
he's announces he's gonna sign with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Schefty
has to break into it. And then we spend every
single time somebody's on the clock because like, look, the
Schador thing is is real. I can't tell I can't
say it loud enough. Everybody I talk to that I

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think is well plugged in with the draft. It is
very real that people have absolutely no sense of where
should do is gonna go? Which means if we start
hitting pick eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, and should we
are sitting there like if if, as many people believe,
if the Saints are going to be the quarterback, good, Yeah,
I think the Saints are taking Jackson Dart If they

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go quarterback, that's what I keep hearing. So if that's
what's gonna happen, then the free fall of Chaudeur, and
not that I root for that, but that's the inevitability
becomes the biggest story. If if Aaron Rodgers, you know,
signs with the Steelers that day, that only.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
Adds another layer to the how far will shoudu Ur fall?

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Conversation, because once we get past the Saints, everybody's gonna
be looking at specifically the Steelers and ask him when
are they moving up to?

Speaker 4 (20:54):
Yeah, so a couple of things here. One, I hear
the Saints you're gonna take a defensive player at.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
Mot Oh wow, that would be a shock.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
I also hear that. Now second round is different story.
They could trade also trade back up, but I don't.
I don't think they take a quarterback at nine. I
also don't think you look at your door man, that
would be an awful spot for him to have to
play next year. He's got to go to a place

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where he can sit and learn. Like he's not ready
to play meaningful snaps next year. There's not a lot
of kids in this draft that you could plug and
play like, let me ask you a question, because you're
very plugged in when it comes to the draft too,
what are you hearing about dart?

Speaker 1 (21:49):
So the conversation on dart, the knock on dart has
been the lane Kivin's offense doesn't require him to do
a lot of reading. The positive on Dart to the
draft process has been that his board work and his recollection,
his his quarterback mind has been far better than a
lot of people expected. So what I've heard is that

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he's worked his way up draft boards in part because
his film shows that, I think Albert Byer pointed this
out the other day too, that he steps up in
the pocket when the pressure's coming, So people like his
ability as opposed to Schadur running backwards. And then the
other part of it is that his actual like meetings
have gone well, not from a we like this kid's personality,
but from the board work where he's breaking down plays

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and the whys and the house like people have been
happier with his quarterback mind than they expected. So that's
that's part of Like, I'm pretty competent at this point, he.

Speaker 4 (22:41):
Real quickly stated interject I've heard a lot of the
some of that, but also that they're not is thrilled
with him. I mean I don't want to, I mean
I don't want to disparage him, but that could have
shocked that they were kind of not as high on

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him as a quarterback. That leader want to love it
the whole thing. That's why. That's why I was curious,
see if you had heard.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
That, because well, and I mean one one really smart
person told me that there's a reason that his board,
like his agent and his team around him is making
sure that we all find out how good some of
these meetings have gone from a but everybody keeps stressing
to me that it's from a quarterback standpoint, not from
a personality standpoint. So it's interesting because, yeah, those those

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intangibles are there.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
I mean the Saints not for nothing like they Yeah,
they could.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
Be stuck here. I mean the Saints could be equally
stuck when it comes to if Derek Carr decides to
get their shoulder surgery.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
They don't have a go I mean where they're going
to roll out Spencer Rattler.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
But I think the Saints also have to understand that
they're not in a situation to compete this year and
you said something earlier that I think we have to
drill down on for a second, these quarterbacks. If you
tell me any team, I don't care what team we're
talking about, If you tell me a competent organization is
going to draft almost any of these quarterbacks and not

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play them for the next two years. I think there's
plenty of quarterbacks in this draft. They could turn out
to be Okay, they could turn out to not be. Like,
I'm not saying there's a Joe Burrow, but I think
that whether we're talking about Jackson Tart or Shador Sanders
or Jaylen Milroe or Quinn Ewers or Will Howard, Like
you go up Kyle McCord.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Yeah, I'll definitely at McCord to that list.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
I think if you if you tell me that they're
gonna sit somewhere stable for two years and then play,
I think you've got you've got a potential. Hey, like,
we've got a guy, maybe not the guy, but we've
got a guy that we can live with. The problem
is most of these teams are not likely to do that.
When guys are drafted, like I will make the argument
all day long that a free fall of Schador standards

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in the draft status draft stock will actually help the
future of his career.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
Yeah, I would. I would agree with that. I would
let me get back to the Saints for one second
with it. Listen to me, would you be shocked if
New Orleans Lawrence still may take a quarterback second third round?
But would you be shocked if they said, you know what,

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we got a first year coach, We got time, so
we got a lot of we're gonna we will have
the fans understanding it's to rebuild.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
Why not wait for Manning?

Speaker 1 (25:46):
I mean, best player available and wait for next year's
class is a brilliant strategy. I look, I'm you're right
about that. I don't on a question at all. And
in fact, look when you talk about what the beginning
of the second looks like. This is why I was
asked the other day for my boldest prediction for this
year's draft for Yahoo, and my boldest prediction was that

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four quarterbacks would go in the first round. And I
don't think four should necessarily, but I keep thinking about
the fact that Cleveland picks at the top of the
second round, and I don't think the Browns are gonna
take a quarterback at two. So now everybody that's sitting
here looking at whoever they love, whether it's Jaylen Milroe
or one of these other guys. I think what you're
gonna see is people realize, hey, we got we got
to trade ahead of Cleveland because Stefanski can, Stefanski can

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get his quarterback and have a little patience from ownership
while they develop him get him in the second round.
So I think you're gonna see, you know, you're If
you're right and the Saints don't go quarterback, then that
makes it a little tougher. But I just wouldn't be
surprised to see in my mind, you know, Jackson goes nine,
Shador goes in the middle of the first round to
wherever the Steelers move up to, and then late in

(26:54):
the late twenties, there's gonna be a lot of phone
calls coming from teams like the Giants and team like
the Raiders and teams like you know, Cleveland, even if
they're worried about those teams moving in, teams like the Saints,
everybody moving back into the bottom of the first round
just to get ahead of Cleveland at the top of
the second to get that quarterback.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
Yeah, it'll be interesting. I don't.

Speaker 4 (27:16):
I don't think there there's gonna be four. I mean,
you could be right. I mean, it'll be interesting to
find out. I just think it makes a lot of
sense for New Orleans to say, I'm gonna go and
wait for Arch. Now, I'm still going to take a
quarterback at some point, And maybe they do, because I
do know they like McCord, Like I could see them

(27:38):
going with McCord later and then you know, and then
figuring you wait for Arch. Right, this way, you got
two that you're developing. I mean, here's the question now
for this at you, if you're if you're New Orleans,

(27:58):
is it sound to wait for Arch? And by the way,
Arch is interesting right because he goes into his junior
year not having played a time. Now you know what
kind of the town he is. You know what he's got.
You know, he's got everything from the bloodlines to just
in limited time, you see what he can do. But

(28:18):
you're also saying that he's definitely going to come out.
Remember Peyton went back to Tennessee after his junior year.
He could have went out, been the number one pick
and decided to go back for his senior year.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
That's what would make me nervous. The biggest thing about
Archer would make me nervous is that you know, no
matter what happens, whether Texas doesn't fulfill the manifest destiny
of dirty around and winning a championship with the Arch
or whether they do. I mean, if your arch you
finally get the chance to play, and they've been very
patient as a family in trusting his development. By the way,

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by Dollars Shave Club. It's Anthony. It gets really interesting
because playing the waiting game presumes so much and one
thing you can't You can't know whether or not Arts
is gonna come out next year. You also can't know
if somebody else is gonna suck. More. Like, just think
about how this year, when we got to the end

(29:55):
of the year, one win is the difference, Like the
Patriots winning a useless Week eighteen game with Joe Milton
going off against the Bills, who played basically nobody, is
the reason that they're picking forth and instead of getting this,
you know, having the opportunity at Travis Hunter, for example,
they're more likely to get the best offensive lineman on
the board. Not that that's a bad thing, but you

(30:16):
just it shows how the variables are something you just
can't predict. So unlike tanking in the NBA, tanking in
the NFL. Just it's so hard because this year particularly,
it's stuck in my head that there were what seven
teams that won four or less games like, that's just
that's gross. I don't know how you suck more than
everybody else.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
Now it's a great point too.

Speaker 4 (30:38):
I mean, now I do think they should get their
offensive line out right, they should get Campbell. Yeah, but
you're right. I mean there's a huge drop off. I mean,
if you got a chance that they you know, you
could get Hunter or at dual Carter. Because I'm a

(31:00):
huge Abdul Carter fan, I think that kids is not.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
Man me too. I like, look, if the guys that
I think are can't miss, not to say that they'll
result a million wins, but I think Abdul Carters can't
miss as close as you can in a draft. I
think Travis Hunter gets that label for me, Ashtan Genty
gets that label, and Mason Graham is about as close
to that label as you can give somebody. I really

(31:23):
like Mason Gramm the defensive tackle out of Michigan. So
I think those are your four. Those are your four.
The linemen are a little trickier. I rely on, you know,
a bunch of a committee of fat guys that I
rely on for lineman information because it's such a hard
position for most of us to know a lot about
like guys like me. And what's really tough is that

(31:43):
every lineman I asked seems to be a little bit
split on these linemen like people, they're really passionate about
the guy they like, and they're really not passionate about
the guys they don't. So it's it's this is a
more split lineman class that I'm used to. So I
would say that I'm comfortable with the four of them,
and then the lineman is really about flavor of ice cream.
And I didn't mention cam Warden this because I just

(32:06):
don't know. And cam Ward is, you know, the quietest
first overall pick I can remember, because he's a quarterback
and he's going to Tennessee, and you would think that
a quarterback being drafted first overall would be the big
hubbub of the draft, and it just feels like nobody cares.

Speaker 4 (32:21):
Yeah, I know, I'm with you, if you had to
say that, you're betting on that player, right like, so
you're right, hunter, Carter genty Gram.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
I'd also throw in Warren.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
I mean he's a tight end though, right like, so
you have to take the position for what it is,
But I think he's a Cam' miss tight end.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
Yeah. I look, we'll keep breaking that out because that
brings up positional value, and I think there's maybe we
think of positional value the long way when it comes
to the NFL Draft. I'll tell you what we mean
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The NFL Draft is just a few days away, Anthony
and positional value is a big conversation this year, particularly
because Ashton Genty is projected to be a top ten
pick in almost every mock and then the question becomes, well,

(33:46):
can you spend that much on a running back and
you can get running backs later in the draft, and
you know, I just I want to oversimplify for a second.
This will be my eighth or ninth year doing NFL
Draft live stream work. Right, I've done it every of
my career in this profession, and I think the number
of times that I oversimplify this, but we see everybody

(34:07):
get cute and I just don't understand it. Like at
the end of the day, because you were just talking
about Tyler Warrens a tight end, can you justify taking
a tight end that high? And look, the fact is
no one player is going to win most teams games.
Like Brock Bauers had an incredible rookie season and that
didn't result in a lot of wins for the Raiders.
Miles Garrett is Miles Garrett. How many games do the

(34:29):
Browns win? Max Crosby the same way, Like you can
have other than quarterback, you can have a great player
at any position. Then it doesn't necessarily mean that you're
gonna win a lot of football games. So at the
end of the day, you got to accept it. You
need to draft and build a fifty three man rosters.
Why I continually say it just takes time to build
a truly good football team. But in that process, like

(34:50):
what do the Eagles always do, Like when the board
gets to them, it just feels like the Eagles, either
because they're smart, or because they're lucky, or because they're good.
I don't no the Eagles. The Ravens have done this
for years. They just sit there and they're like, Oh,
there's this great player available. I'm not over gonna I'm
not gonna overthink it. I'm just gonna take him. Like
if your team, if your favorite team for anyone listening,

(35:11):
sucks and they have the chance to take Titler War
and your answer is, well, you can't draft a tight
end that high. I just think that's stupid. At some point,
you just got to look at it and say, you
know what, this guy is clear If he is clearly
the best player on my board, I'm simply gonna take him.
If there's a tie, if you got two guys you
like equally, then sure give me positional value as a
tiebreaker if you absolutely must. I just think that at

(35:33):
the end of the day, if you're the Raiders, the Jets,
the Panthers, if the Patriots, if you're just roster sucks,
go get good football players and don't worry about what
position they play.

Speaker 4 (35:46):
Now I hear you, I'll push back just a little
bit because like the Eagles have taken two that they've
drafted four tight ends in the last twenty five years
drafted period. About where they've drafted, Like, I'm with you
to just want just to some extent, I think you

(36:08):
have to lean heavier on your fronts right Like there
are positions that they don't they won't go near early
like linebacker, safety and tight end.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
To be honest with you, like second.

Speaker 4 (36:23):
Round, but first round and that high. I think it's
important what you said earlier the preface it all by saying,
you know, if it's a tie, you got to go
with positional value.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
I think they do lean more towards.

Speaker 4 (36:39):
I've had these conversations with Howie Roseman, and you know,
I do think it's important that you lean with trenches.
Right Like, they win, and the reason why they've had
success in this last decade is because of the trenches
they've built up their D line and their own line.
I was having a conversation recently the other day with

(37:00):
somebody there about why they won, and they won because
they they felt other teams would tap out that their
defense was so nasty and as a team offensive line
right at their D line, that they were so physical

(37:21):
that they expected teams to tap out against them.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
I think when I think of the Eagles the way
I think of a draft strategy for the Eagles, And
this is just this is a gut feeling more than
me sitting here looking at their board for the last
ten years. I don't have it up in front of me,
but I will say this. The sense I always get
is when you mentioned the trenches, the way they apply
to my conversation is a little bit like it doesn't
matter if there's a perceived they don't need a defensive lineman.

(37:47):
They're going to take that. Like if that guy is
on the board, they're gonna take him, you know what
I mean. And there's where, because I've heard some people
even say with abdul Carter, where if you already have
Miles Garrett, you really need abdul Carter? Yes? He answers
you too. You know, if you have Maxrow abdul Carter, yes, yes,
or as you do, if you have a stacked defensive line,
do you really need Mason Graham? Yes, you do. Like
I don't think you can have enough defensive lineman. I

(38:09):
don't think you can have enough. Frankly, I don't think
you can have enough offensive lineman anymore. Like I do
genuinely believe that at some point positional value And you're right,
you know, certainly you don't take a punter or a
kicker in the first round. Safety is such an interesting
you know, but it feels like part of this luck
or good I don't know, but Quinya Mitchell was clearly

(38:31):
the corner everybody knew was the best corner going last year.
And the Eagles didn't get cute. They just sat there
today the best quarter is available, like he's the best
guy on our board. Cooper de Gene is somebody that
you know they look brilliant for. But I think most
of us that covered any college football were sitting there saying,
how's this kid still available?

Speaker 3 (38:47):
That way?

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Like how is how is he still on the board?

Speaker 3 (38:50):
And whis Nolan Smith?

Speaker 4 (38:53):
I still don't know how Nolan Smith was avalable at thirty.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
And that's part of what I'm talking about, Like I
think sometimes you just got to look at it and say, hey,
this guy's a monster, and we're gonna bring monsters on
this team. And when you talk about some of the guys,
and that's where I would apply the Ashton Genty conversation.
Does it mean you're winning a Super Bowl if you
draft Gent? No? But like I want monsters, I want
game wreckers. You know, game wreckers are everything Anthony.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
I dude, when it comes to Genty.

Speaker 4 (39:25):
Like I would go, like, if you're the Cowboys, what
in the world. I would do whatever I can to
move up to get Genty. And I know you've been
a bit before and you took ze Kai early and
it's a running back and all that stuff. If I'm
the Cowboys, he's exactly what we get me excited for

(39:47):
this season that could actually make this season something for me.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
Yeah. Well, Ashton Gent is so rare, and that's where
it gets really difficult when people say you can get
a running back, Yeah you can. You can get a
running back, can't get an Ashton Genty. We'll keep bringing
out where the right spot is for Ashton and how
aggressive team should be. When we come back, it's the
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(40:34):
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Speaker 2 (40:35):
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Speaker 1 (40:37):
WHOA, he's Anthony Gargano. I'm just saying, like, you know,
we're talking about what three am, West Coast time. Like
if you're if you're up listening to sports talk grooming
with the music, you gotta smile on your face. I'm
just presuming, Anthony, I'm just presuming we were just talking
about the NFL draft. They were just talking about the

(40:58):
Ashton gent conversation, and let's start here. It's a very
very base of it. Okay, what right now has become
the big conversation as well. You can get a running
back anywhere in the draft, and look, this is a deep.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
And talented running back class. Like two things can be true.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
There's a lot of running backs in this class that
a lot of people like I think that's very true.
But if you had the chance to draft a really
good running back orft Saquon, I think there's a difference
and look, Ashton Genty is in my mind one of
those special, rare combinations that feels a lot more like
Saquan or Christian McCaffrey than he does. Just Hey, I

(41:36):
got a really good running back, and in my mind,
there's a big difference as good as for example, Josh
Jacobs is he ain't Saquon, Like there's a difference between
the one percent of the one percent. And I think
we've lost some of that tone when we talk about
Ashton Genty because it's so easy to talk about replacement
value at the position.

Speaker 4 (41:56):
Now do your spot on, your spot on he's special,
go back and look at it. You know, we're geeks
and we would always talk about Boise and because we'd
be on after a Friday night game, and you know
the thing, I remember you and I having a conversation
about how he after contact yards after contact.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
It's incredible what he does.

Speaker 4 (42:24):
That was not a great Boise offense, right, That was
not some great Boise team with Kellen Moore at the
quarterback from back in the day, right, with some great
offensive line. He was a one man record team. As
a back, he was ridiculous. He's a generational type of talent.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
I also think watch the highlights for anyone that didn't
watch Poise, watch the highlights, and you'll see a ton
of people trying to tackle him and missing him. But
here's the thing, Like, there's a difference between mistackle like
I didn't realize he's that fast and I took the
wrong angle. I can't tackle like that happened plenty. There's
a difference between that and I have made just one

(43:06):
on one collision with this player, and now what And
that's when when you see that, even against Oregon, for example,
which has a bunch of kids that are capable of
they're like, he runs through people and you think he
got him, but his lower body is so damn strong
and he keeps his balance so well that people fly

(43:26):
at him and they fly off of him. And that's
you know that, that's just that portion of it. But
then also out of the backfield, he's got way more
explosiveness in better hands than anybody seems to be giving
him credit for it. And that's why, like I get
I get the I've said this before, running back is
like great ice cream topping. So if you want Saquon
to win you a Super Bowl, you gotta have great

(43:48):
ice cream, because like, nobody remembers this Sunday for its
toppings unless the ice creams are also great. So Saquon
is like the perfect ice cream topping on the perfect Sunday,
and that's how you win a Super Bowl. Okay, I
will acquiesce to that, but I also think that the
conversation of hey man, you know, running backs are replaceable. Okay,
I wear my fandomoonmous sleeve. You don't think that I
had a like. Look at the Raiders with Josh Jacobs

(44:11):
as their running back. They didn't win a lot of
football games, but they had the leagues leading rusher one year,
and they consistently had one of the better running attacks.
One year without Josh Jacobs, and the Raiders had the
worst rushing attack in the NFL last year. Part of
that's are offensive line stakes. Part of that's also you
lost the great eraser, Like great running backs can erase
deficiencies with your offensive line. So I understand that that

(44:31):
Derek Henry didn't win games with the Titans and that
Saquon didn't win games with the Giants and Josh Jacobs
didn't win games with the Raiders. I get that, but
to me, it's so wildly shortsighted to say, well, that's
proof that you can't win with the running backs. So
I'm just not going to draft what is clearly the
best player at that position. Like I, I don't think
Omar and Hampton as much as I like Hampton is

(44:52):
a runner, some of these other kids, there's a difference.
So like, why would I sit there and say, ah,
I'm just not going I get Tie goes to the
batter get. I understand that if you've got a really
close grade, you have to consider these things, but I
just I also think, don't get cute here. If you
need a running back, just go get damn Ashon Genty.

Speaker 4 (45:13):
Yeah, you know what's funny, I went, but Jacksonville. I
would have put bet Jacksonville draft them.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
Me either. I saw that mock somewhere the other day
and I thought, man, that's the first time I've seen that.
And I don't know why I didn't think of it.
I'm with you. I think, look, if anybody in the
top ten takes ash and Genty, I think it's a
simple home run. And I just won't listen to like
the same thing I said last year. My god, I
was sitting doing the Yahoo livestream last year and Brock

(45:43):
Powers got picked, and I saw Raiders fans just losing
their minds. And you know, at the time, my buddy
field Yates sent me a text and said, never apologize
for drafting the best player available. And I just it's
just stuck in my head to this day that like
they're Raiders fans that sat there and said, what are
we doing? We don't need a tight end and it's like, yeah,

(46:04):
you always needed rock Powers. Like I just think that
if you're picking in the top ten, it's not just
about getting a guy, it's about the chance to get
a guy that can be generational, that could be different.
They can they can absolutely turn like just greatness, greatness
out every single Sunday, and now it's up to use

(46:25):
an organization to build the rest of it to make
that team great. But my god, like the failing of
the Giants that was proven when Saquon went to the
Eagles is all the people that said, well they never
got the Giants, never would have done this with Saquon. Well,
then shame on the Giants, like just draft the best
players and then build around them.

Speaker 4 (46:44):
Well, they also struggled. I mean how many times we
talked about putting an offensive line building that with the Giants, right, Like, listen,
I'm out the biggest Daniel Jones fan either, right, I
don't think he's any good, but he never had a
great line in front of him, and so that offense
never really had a chance. You have a generational back,

(47:07):
but you didn't have a line, and that was the difference.
I mean, again, the Eagles won, not sexy. The Eagles
won because they had the best offensive line in football, right,
and they had players and playmakers around that Barkley, AJ Brown,
Devonte Hurtz, right, Like, you had players around, but they

(47:28):
had a front. Why did they win the Super Bowl?
They have a defensive front that dominated the Chiefs, right
that that basically smothered my homes.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
So but to your point about Gent, I'm on board.

Speaker 4 (47:44):
Doesn't it make sense for the Cowboys to move up
like that, like that's their last piece?

Speaker 1 (47:50):
If you add a.

Speaker 4 (47:51):
Gent to that mix, don't you think that that's a teammate?
You go, all right, Well, you know, if I have
a court, if I'm going to go into it with
Dak Prescott and Ceedee Lamb and Michael Parsons, I'm trying
to win now.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
So let me ask you this, and I think we
could look across the board, but if you go to
picks five, that's the Jags. For anyone that isn't sitting
here looking at the NFL draft order that I spend
too much time thinking about. If you want to talk
about five at Jacksonville, if you want to talk about
six for the Raiders, seven for the Jets, all of

(48:30):
those teams, why would you not move down to twelve
like Dallas? Whatever Dallas is willing to pay to get up, like,
why would you not move down to twelve? If the
offer is outstanding? The only question is why would you
not take out? Like?

Speaker 2 (48:43):
If it's that simple, just take Ashton? You know what
I mean?

Speaker 3 (48:45):
Like that?

Speaker 1 (48:46):
That's where it gets really hard, because I'm with you.
If I'm Dallas, I'm aggressively trying to move up. I'm
gonna go get Ashton genty and I'm gonna stop all
the conversations, and I believe I'm gonna have to get
up pretty high to get him. So I'm calling New England,
Jacksonville and the Raiders. Those are the three that I
call it. And if I'm each.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
Of those three teams, man now, I have this great decision.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
What do you do. Do you take somebody that is
it looks so transcendent that teams are actually willing to
trade up to get him because you need him, or
do you just let it go and let God and
then just try and trade down and take you know
what I mean. That's where it gets really interesting, because
I don't know if either Raiders you have a ton.

Speaker 4 (49:22):
Yeah, I think it's about assets, right, isn't it about
where you're at and what stage your building and if
you can get assets.

Speaker 3 (49:30):
I mean I would go the because here's the thing.

Speaker 4 (49:33):
If you're the Raiders, if you're Jacksonville, you're not ready
to win right now. And as much as I love Gent,
you know, to take the assets, you know, I think
it would make sense.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
Now.

Speaker 4 (49:49):
If you're Dallas, you know they have been if you've
noticed over the last why five years, seven years, they
have I have been more disciplined with the draft. I
actually think they've done a good job with the draft.
They have been more disciplined with trades, taking the best

(50:09):
player available. And I get that they are probably snake
bit after Elliott and going to back that high.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
But I just think Genti's different.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
Is there any so we both agree that New England
needs an offensive line, and the smart thing for them
to do is just sit there and take whichever lineman
they believe is the best. Is there any part of
New England that gets tempted to just take a running
back that can help Drake May from day one? Is
there any part of Ashton genty at four that becomes
tempting for them?

Speaker 7 (50:43):
No?

Speaker 3 (50:43):
I mean, I you know, first of all, if I'm
that might take Graham.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
Oh yeah. So I made the argument the other day
to somebody that because of Mike Vrabel, you know, and
his defensive background, and he does love defensive tackles that
can get after it. I made the argument the other
day that that makes a lot like defensive line actually
makes a lot of sense. I'm with you on that.
I could see I could see Graham going if they
don't love you know, Will Campbell and the other or

(51:09):
even if they do, you know, I offensive line, defensive
line never a bad thing, but you know, no temptation
in your mind to just go get Drake May a
better weapon to help him in the backfield.

Speaker 4 (51:21):
Yeah, I mean I certainly you know it calls me
pause a reason for pause for sure, But I'm not
passing up you know, Graham, I like to me, I
think you said it earlier. I'm I agree with you.
I think he's a great player. I think he's an anchor.

(51:42):
If I can get anchors on my fronts, then I
got to go that first, especially if I'm a building team.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
Yeah, I don't disagree with that. So let's take that
same logic to Cleveland then, because Cleveland's picking second overall,
most people have Travis Hunter going. There is there any
temptation to take Abduall Carter for Cleveland because that gives
them more strength on strength, right, Like, just.

Speaker 3 (52:06):
Yeah, I would love Carter there, I would. I would.

Speaker 4 (52:11):
You know what's funny, everybody just really bald He was
at the workout and he's just like, dude, the kid
is just so so elite of an athlete, you know,
such a such a transcendent type of player. So he's
going to play d back and I'll slide in and

(52:32):
receiver sometimes, but he's going to be a full time
defensive back. That's what Baldy thinks and a couple other people.
I love Carter, So I've seen Carter live, Like I
love Carter Carter and Miles Garrett to me, Wow, like
you know, so, yeah, I would think about it, but
I hear they're just going to go Travis Huner.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
Yeah, and I mean Cleveland keeps coming out and saying
that they think he's a wide receiver, and that's well,
I just will I will stress to everybody yet again
that the one thing we know is on most draft
boards he is currently listed as the number one corner
and the number one wide receiver. Like he he I
don't at this point. I don't think you can go

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wrong as long as he's made it clear he wants
to play both ways, and the question is canny. Well,
we need to break down a little bit of this
Travis Hunter conversation. Figure out can he actually play both ways?
Where's it gonna go for him, and what's it mean. Plus,
speaking of Travis Hunter, we have some numbers being retired.
I gotta get Anthony's thoughts on that. We'll do that
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you're too kind. You're too kind. Speaking of too kind,
maybe maybe with Fox Sports Radio should do is retire
my number. I gotta get your thoughts on this, Anthony Gargatto,
as we now know that Travis Hunter and Shador Sanders
are having their numbers retired at University of Colorado, and look,
did Travis Hunter having his number retired after winning a
Heisman not shocking to me? I think Colorado has been

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slow in the past as a program to retire numbers,
and that's something that they should do a better job of.
I just think Dion's handling of the questions about Shaduur
having his number retired, where he simply said, if it
wasn't for his last name, we wouldn't even be having
this conversation, and he played it like that was some
sort of a victim. I think I think Dion's flipped it,
Like my question is if Shador didn't have the last

(55:38):
name Sanders, Like yeah, like victim mentality, Like I don't
know if Shador's last name was fits. Do we really
think that we're retiring that? Like where was the National
Championship or the huge moment. Did you come in and say,
oh my god, like, yeah, turn the program around, which
is spectacular work by the Sanders family. But I don't
I don't understand how Dion can can look at this

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and find outrage in questions being asked about retiring a
quarterbacks number that hasn't won a national championship form when
they have other quarterbacks that have had better seasonal championship.

Speaker 4 (56:11):
We think about, he didn't do anything right, like God
blessed the game.

Speaker 3 (56:16):
He played well, but you know, what did he accomplish?

Speaker 2 (56:24):
I mean, to retire the number.

Speaker 3 (56:29):
That he accomplished.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
The program is seen differently today than it was two
years ago.

Speaker 4 (56:36):
Okay, right, but what about you know, give me numbers, wise,
give me accolades, give me awards postseason.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
Yeah, nothing, right, I mean, it's.

Speaker 4 (56:51):
Stupid, It's ridiculous out in the world. Listen, Travis Hunter
is a hell of a player, all right, whatever. I'm
not a big believer in in that, but my god, Shadoor,
please please, but that's what I will play a victim card.

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That's what he does. And that's like you called coach
the victim card.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
Like if you talk about two of the more polarizing
people in some ways in the way they're covered in sports.
Aaron Rodgers and should in Deon Sanders, they share their
ability to constantly make themselves victim and everything. Yes, and like,
I mean going back to Aaron Rodgers talking about well
the Jets, you know, I flew all the way across
country on my dime and they you know, they fired me.

(57:44):
He could have done that on a phone call. Okay,
well if they if they called him, then Aaron Rodgers
would have simply said, oh my god, Like they didn't
even bothered to look at me face to face and like,
and then he says that a minute into the conversation.
You know, they they informed they were going into a
different direction. Well, that's kind of the way it usually goes.
What are you getting cut? Like the number of guys

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I've talked to that played in the NFL, they're like, yeah,
that's the process.

Speaker 4 (58:08):
Like it.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
There isn't a long, glorious conversation. The less they say
they're the better more often than not. So like Aaron
Rodgers simply got the normal treatment for what that looks like.
And I and then turns it into this long victim
rant about the way he's perceived without ever acknowledging that
he's created that. And now you've got Shaduur days before

(58:30):
the draft, where there is for some teams there there
are questions about whether or not the juice is worth
the squeeze, like if a player is if look, if
Shaduur were as unquestioned a prospect as Peyton Manning was,
then people would put up with almost anything. But he isn't.
And so because he isn't, now part of this becomes

(58:51):
part of the conversation, like it's just and the conversation
doesn't get any easier. If Dion sits there and says, well,
you're only talking about it because of his last name.
I guess the answer is with a different last name,
would he even have his number retired? I don't. I
don't believe if she do his last name were Gargano,
they'd be retiring his number right now.

Speaker 4 (59:09):
No, of course not. I mean, it's ridiculous. But what
do Rogers and d Are and Avid Khan? They're wildly popular.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
Right yeah?

Speaker 4 (59:22):
Do you know how to play like shitever you want
about him? He's a master at promotion. Nobody is a
better promoter than Pride.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
We handle those two gentlemen the same way as a
society that many people handle their favorite teams. And this
is this is inevitability. Like I've told you this before,
but in the summer every year I get destroyed by
Raiders fans that will sit there and say, oh my god, like,
you're not high enough on this team. Why do you

(59:53):
think the Chargers gonna win more games? You suck, you
don't know anything, blah blah blah blah blah. And the
whole time, I'm usually saying, yeah, they're six win team
if everything breaks right, which was my prediction last year
they got to four right. So when the season isn't
going particularly well and I'm not sky is falling because
I didn't think it was gonna go all that well.
So what are we seeing that we didn't expect? Then

(01:00:15):
Raiders fans turn around and they just absolutely rip my
head off for not being tough enough on the team.
Blah blah blah blah blah. Like I think the hard
part about it is when you let your fanglasses in
general change the way you perceive everything and you start
giving universal benefit of the doubt you It's like you
just want everybody to be on your side, and Aaron
Rodgers fans in general want everybody to be on their

(01:00:37):
side regarding Aaron Rodgers, he can do no wrong. Deon
Sanders fans want everybody to be on their side no
matter what. Dion could do no wrong. The amount of
people that have decided that the questions about Shador Sanders
as a player must have absolutely nothing to do with
Shadoor Sanders as a player, to which I step back
and say, why is it not okay? Like I was,

(01:00:58):
I had my questions about corps in every draft class.
Why am I not allowed to have questions about Shador
Sanders in this draft class? But the megafans of Shador
want to turn it into something that has nothing to
do with just looking at a fit football player. Dion
fans want to make it and pro Coach Prime fans
want to make it about nothing to do with Coach
Prime as a coach, and Aaron Rodgers fans want to

(01:01:19):
make it nothing to do with Aaron Rodgers, the pain
and the ass the quarterback. Like I can't say this
loud enough, y'all, Like I don't care about what Aaron
Rodgers thinks about COVID, I don't I didn't, then I don't.
Now I don't give a damn, Like I don't care
what most of you think about COVID. I just I don't.
I don't have the equity of my heart to give
a damn anymore. I haven't cared for a long time.

(01:01:40):
I'm not sure I ever cared what most of you
thought about COVID, Like I just I don't. So it's
funny to me that when it becomes about all those
other things, then that's the deflection point. So we can't
have a genuine conversation with Dion about why they're retiring
Shador's number because he immediately makes it a personal insult,
and so do all of his fans, And it's just
it's the maddening part of trying to talk about it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:01):
Yeah, and you know what's crazy is this has become
the Shadure draft when it's the cam War draft, right.
It's amazing for the number one overall pick, he nobody
talks about him.

Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
Nobody talks about cam.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
Ward d You're and I have. I've attributed a lot
of that to the fact that the Titans have the
first pick and they're a meaningless brand in the NFL. Sorry,
Titans fans love you that, but you're right. I mean,
the fact is, if Shadur was going number one to
the Titans, wouldn't be we wouldn't be glossing over it.
We'd be talking about it every day. Every day, we'd

(01:02:42):
be talking about it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:43):
And the truth of the matter is cam Ward is
a thousand times better a quarterback than.

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
God. And you know, don't bog me down with details
like that. It's that you're right. Everything you're saying is right.
And the fortunate thing is, I don't know what anybody's
supposed to do when you can no longer just have
a coverage conversation that is simply based on your opinions
in sports, like the wildest part about the way the

(01:03:14):
world works right now. And you know, I obviously I
worked at ESPN for years, and the number of people
that sit there and talk about how woke ESPN is
or whatever, like people have these big, huge political conversations,
and there are a lot of people that work in
sports that don't give it damn about any of it.
And unfortunately, once the conversation has been steered to that,

(01:03:38):
I don't know what you can do to turn the
conversation away. From that, like, no matter what anyone thinks of,
you know, Coach Prime and the way he does things,
you should be allowed to question whether or not should
do is going to be a great pro for reasons
on film, like why can't we just simply sit down
and say, hey, Shadoor Sanders the quarter back, here are

(01:04:00):
the reasons that I don't think that he's ready to
play right now, and here are the reasons that I
don't like. Why can it not be an okay analysis
to say, hey, he's not as good as the quarterbacks
of last year's draft class, which I do think is
part of the context of where this class stands. Why
can't we just say, hey, Shadoor isn't as good as
cam and have that be okay with that being an opinion,
without that suddenly being no, I'm just trying to keep

(01:04:23):
you know, I'm just trying to find a reason to
doubt Coach Prime, or even more maddening, the amount of
people that if you come back and say anything that
you don't like about Shadour, that all of a sudden
you must be a racist. And it's like, well, why,
like I you know, did I miss something about cam Ward?

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
Like so I don't understand.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
I don't understand why we can't have just real balanced
conversations anymore about certain people without it having to be
about their belief system.

Speaker 4 (01:04:51):
I don't think it's a racial issue with Shador. I
think it's a Sander's issue. I mean, that's it. I mean,
here's the thing. Prime is a coach, Prime is is
it a brilliant again, He's a brilliant marketer, brilliant And
it's all part of the narrative.

Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
This whole thing is all. Everything is calculated.

Speaker 4 (01:05:15):
It's to get a rise, it's it's to push back
and get a rise out of everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:05:21):
Like you know, he.

Speaker 4 (01:05:22):
Wants you to feel he's won, because if you're if
you're feeling guilty about not criticizing Shador but capping what
Shadoor is as a quarterback now, you know, with the ability,
which I think every analyst says it. You know, listen,

(01:05:45):
you know, let's see if he goes to the right
spot and he sits for a year or two, you know,
maybe he becomes something and everybody's put that caveat out there,
but to him, Matvy, you feel guilty about saying that
is exactly what pride bloods.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
You know. The funny thing is, in the entertainment business,
there's a term for you know, stage dads or mamagers
as so many people call them, and it's not it's
a really known thing, especially when you're like in the
Broadway world or in the you know, music world, when
you've got little kids and their parent is a pain

(01:06:23):
in the ass to deal with. It happens a lot,
and there are kids all the time that are not
cast in prominent roles in movies and shows and not
given certain opportunities because frankly, their parents are just pain
in the ass and the casting director or the movie
company or the production company just doesn't want to deal
with them. This has been common for forty years and
my whole life, like I grew up around these terms.

(01:06:45):
So I understand sort of. I understand this portion of
the business, I think better than a lot of people.
And it makes me laugh because people are so offended
by the concept, the thought process that there might be
an NFL team there that just doesn't want to deal
with Don.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
And I look at all that and say, that's well
with it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
Like, look, if you look around and if you need
a quarterback, but you just don't want to deal with
having to answer questions about Aaron Rodgers every day, that's
your prerogative. And if you would rather run your business
without Aaron Rodgers as your quarterback, so you don't have
to deal with that, okay, Like that's how you want
to do business. If you're looking around as a team
and saying, man, the last thing I want. Like we

(01:07:26):
talked about last season that Roma Dounza's dad, there are
people around the Bears organization that weren't happy that he
was going to social media to show all of the
clips of times that he thought his kid was open
and wasn't getting the ball. That wasn't a constructive way
for things to go within the organization. The team didn't
like it. Now, imagine somebody that has a press conference
every week that's going to be asked, well, Shadu or

(01:07:47):
was benched this week. I didn't feel about that. Like
there might be some coaching regimes that just don't want
to deal with that. They don't want to have to
answer questions at their press conference about what Dion said
about their like their team. Like, I think that's that's
fair and reasonable, and at some point, if you're the
Sanders family. You got to look around and say, hey,
whatever this is was created not by the last name Dion,

(01:08:10):
and it's created by the fact that like Dion and
the Sanders family has never shied away from the last
name Sanders in the way that they handle all of it,
Like I'm sorry. But the difference is people don't say
this about Arch because they know that Eli and Peyton
aren't going to be at a press conference every week
talking about what they think isn't being done right for Arts,
Like we haven't heard from any other Manning through this

(01:08:31):
entire Texas process of their son barely getting on the
field or sometimes getting on the field, or you and
I questioned the usage of Arch last year at times.

Speaker 3 (01:08:40):
In the freaking championship game.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
What were they doing? Like and we're sitting here saying,
oh my god, But did I hear anybody with the
last name Manning come out and use their platform to
talk about it?

Speaker 4 (01:08:50):
No, like semi final game where you know Manny should
have been used to goal line, We've said it. I
didn't hear Eli or Peyton saying about it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
Yeah, And that's to me, that's the big difference, is, Like,
it's not about your last name in that situation, it's
about the profile you have in the way you handle it.
And if you're going to use your profile loudly, which
is your right, then you have to understand that the
teams have the right to say, man, I don't know
if I really want to do with that week in
and week out like that has to be okay, And

(01:09:23):
it doesn't have to be a personal slight against somebody.
It can just be, man, that you sain't worth to squeeze.

Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:09:29):
And you know what's interesting is we talk about the
project quarterbacks. Let me answer you a question. Now, I'll
completely can see that Shoudor is more polished than mil Row.
All right as a pocket quarterback, but if you're looking

(01:09:51):
for upside, who's got more upside.

Speaker 3 (01:09:56):
A mill Row? Or should? Milrod needs a lot of work.

Speaker 4 (01:10:03):
But I don't know, there was not a great athlete,
like when it comes to being out of the pocket.

Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
He's a decent pocket quarterback.

Speaker 4 (01:10:12):
And guess he's still you know, he never let a
chance to make a lot of NFL throws last year
because the last two years because of her offense. But
his arm is okay, it's not great. It was a
good deep ball, but mil Rod's got ridiculous tools. You know,
you just got to teach him the position and kind

(01:10:34):
of just really kind of deep tied with him.

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
I think to your point, I think Mena Kimes was
in the Week this week that said, Jalen Milroe's like
a lottery ticket, you know, And I am convinced he's
going to get drafted late first round because somebody wants
the opportunity to just slowly develop that passing game. Yeah,
if you can, if you can get him to be

(01:11:02):
even a mediocre passer, like just a just a pretty
good passer, then you're gonna end up with the top
fifteen quarterback in the NFL, you know, accidentally, you know, yeah,
one hundred percent. He's just his mechanics go to hell,
and he's inaccurate at times Like those are real things
that you know, you've got to believe. If you're I'm

(01:11:24):
just inserting this out of my own fandom, if you're
Chip Kelly and Pete Carroll, you're telling me you're not
looking at that, saying, hey, with time, we could develop
something here. And I don't know, like, but to me,
if you've got Kevin Stefanski or I you've got Brian Dabole,
or you've got you know, Pete Carroll and Chip Kelly
and you've got we're talking about brands that have been

(01:11:44):
familiar with developing quarterbacks. Man, if you're Kellen Moore and
your whole calling card has been I know how to
work with the quarterback, I know how to run an
offense around a quarterback. All of those gentlemen I just mentioned, Like,
I feel a lot better about those guys taking somebody
like Jayaln Miller and saying, hey, we're going to develop
them than I do about necessarily Aaron Glenn. You know,

(01:12:04):
they think we've got we've got some quarterback minds that
get credit. You know, if Jalen Milroe were drafted by
somebody like Stefanski, I believe that with a couple of
years to figure it out, he could turn out to
be absolutely, like very good. He could be a very
good quarterback almost say great. I won't say great, but
he could be a very good quarterback in this class.

Speaker 4 (01:12:24):
Yeah yeah, I mean, and that's the point, right, Like
you're thinking, all right, if I'm a team and I'm
going to draft a quarterback, I'm always going to go upside.

Speaker 1 (01:12:35):
I mean, that's where too. And this is why I'm
not just encouraging you, because I that's what my job is.
I think what gets interesting about this draft, and the
reason that especially like the second and third rounds are
also going to be interesting, is there's gonna be run
on these quarterbacks that I do believe in the next
three years we're gonna see him hit the field. I
think there's gonna be a lot of taking us to

(01:12:56):
Like Derek Carr went in the second round for reason,
Jalen Hurts went in the second round for a reason.
I think there's gonna be plenty of opportunities for that.
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Speaker 3 (01:14:29):
We give it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
Well, look, there's one thing happening this weekend that barely
counts in sports, but it is now cancel my plans,
cancel everything. Like I'm gonna figure out I'm booking hotel
rooms in January.

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
I can now tell you definitively, my beloved Raiders are.

Speaker 1 (01:14:44):
Going to the playoffs this year. How do I know this?
Based on this weekend? Based on this weekend? I know
my beloved Raiders are going to the playoffs? Are you
ready for? Why? Are you ready for this?

Speaker 3 (01:14:53):
Yeah? Why?

Speaker 1 (01:14:55):
Every post COVID WrestleMania has been held in an NFL stadium,
and so far, every host team has gone on to
make the playoffs the upcoming year, said Allegiant. This weekend,
WrestleMania Raiders are going to the playoffs. Bam, I just look, look,
WWE is giving. It's giving me what I finally deserve.
Playoffs happening this year all because of WrestleMania.

Speaker 3 (01:15:16):
Listen, Wresmania got me a super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (01:15:20):
I mean, come on now, like I'll take you know,
I'll just take a.

Speaker 4 (01:15:23):
Play on Kelsey and Lane Johnson. We're in it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
God see, I am actually bummed.

Speaker 1 (01:15:31):
I really wanted to go this weekend and kudos to
WWE for changing the weekend of WrestleMania used to be
the same as the Final Four and made it really difficult.
And then said allegiant this year. Really wanted to go,
but it's just backed up so close to you know,
work I have to do for the NFL Draft. I
didn't feel good about going out to Vegas U and

(01:15:52):
raging around WrestleMania. Just I just want to see all
the old guys, like the eighties wrestlers that do all
the greets and everything, like I want to live my
childhood through an allegiance to the surrounding area. Would have
been a great opportunity to do it, but look, it
means that it means my beloved Raiders are headed to
the super Bowl or at least ended the playoffs. That

(01:16:14):
I'll take that. That's obviously that streak will continue. Are
you were you? Did you go to WrestleMania when it
was in Philly?

Speaker 3 (01:16:21):
My kids did, my boys went.

Speaker 4 (01:16:24):
My uh wife's cousin's husband is a security for the
w W, A like a big security guy and so
he had them. He had a special thing. And then
and then yeah, so the boys went.

Speaker 3 (01:16:43):
I didn't go.

Speaker 4 (01:16:44):
I was going to go, my man, big Dom. I
was gonna go with the Eagles guys because Kelsey.

Speaker 3 (01:16:49):
And Lane were doing it.

Speaker 4 (01:16:52):
And then, you know, I don't know, I didn't. I
regret because I mean it was it was awesome or
what nuts over it?

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
I mean, it's it's a spectacle. WWE everything they do
is a spectacle. I've never been to WrestleMania, but yeah,
I certainly it is certainly a spectacle. And like I said,
I think, you know, kind of like the coolest part
sometimes of being around the Super Bowl or all of
the things that happen in the city before the super Bowl.
I think the coolest part of WrestleMania is the same. So,

(01:17:24):
you know, one of these years, like you would have thought,
Vegas Allegiance would have been the perfect opportunity to go.
But like I said, I just the draft prep. This
year is a tough, a weird year for the draft too, because,
as we've talked about, there aren't as many oh my god,
home run hitters in this year's draft, which means the
big boards are very varied at this point. So usually

(01:17:44):
like if I'm you know, I'm covering the draft for
the first three rounds for Yahoo. And usually when we
do that, I can I can study one hundred people
and have a pretty good idea. You know, you can
look at every mock for two months and you get
that that list. This year, the big of the top
one hundred is so varied you end up with a
couple hundred players instead. It's it's gonna be interesting. I

(01:18:07):
think this is a real year for coverage.

Speaker 3 (01:18:10):
Yeah, like the first round is gonna be wild. I mean,
you know, you think you know.

Speaker 4 (01:18:18):
The only pick you can definitely know are one, two, three,
because four could be a variation five and that'll affect
five and six.

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
And I also think to that point when you reach
a draft, where as we say all the time, it's
like what flavor of ice cream is your favorite? Well,
you know, keep that analogy going. If I'm in line
at an ice cream place and I can see that
Anthony's kids are ahead of me, and there, look they
may prefer you know, chocolate chip cookie though they might

(01:18:51):
all right, But what if I'm in a vanilla mood
and I just want that that sweet, sweet vanilla bean
that's up there and there's only one scoop left. Like,
I'm gonna trade my way up to get in front
of Anthony's kids because I don't want to take the
chance that they're going to get the vanilla. Now, they
may not be into the vanilla at all, but I
can't risk it because that's what I really want. We're
gonna get a ton of that. I think this year,
where you know, whereas there's not a ton of like

(01:19:13):
people might be not sitting here freaking out about a
name that's dropping to thirteen, I think there's gonna be
plenty of teams that want to move to thirteen, fourteen,
fifteen to get the one guy that they're in love with.

Speaker 4 (01:19:23):
Yeah, I like that analogy. Now you're spot on, brother,
spot on. I think it's gonna be a fun draft.
You brought up the Raiders making the playoffs. I have
to tell you, I believe that the Raiders are now
a division's so nasty right because the Chargers are great,

(01:19:44):
are going to be great Teas are great. Chargers are
gonna be really good devers on the colm. I believe
Wholharley and Brady, Like, I think Brady'll fix it. Brady
Pete Carroll, Like, I think it's gonna work. How if
it's this year, But I think it's gonna work.

Speaker 1 (01:20:02):
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So what is this the spring equinox?

Speaker 1 (01:20:31):
Is that what we got here? Because we have NBA playoffs,
NHL playoffs, we have obviously the NFL Draft happening, and
Major League Baseball is underway. Like I don't think a
lot of us, Like, in fairness, before baseball guy gets
at me, we said in October, I'm not paying attention
to college basketball yet. Like, it doesn't mean that I
don't love it, just means, you know, it takes a

(01:20:52):
minute to warm up. So baseball guy, calm down. We'll
get to you. But like you know, I feel like
we we just wait so long, Anthony, to get to
meaningful games in two sports that we love in basketball
and hockey, right Like, we wait so long to get there.
And this year particularly, I think the reward is there
with these playoff matchups that we've got in the NBA.

(01:21:14):
Like I'll give everybody. I think we all understand that
it's a two horse race in the East, right, Like
the East is kind of boring. We all presume it's
going to be the Caves and the Celtics, and you know,
they'll just make they'll make haste to get to that
point and you know, just eliminate everybody else but the West. Man, Like,
they're just a lot of these series at least have

(01:21:35):
compelling storylines, even in the first round, and sometimes you
just got to suffer through the first round to get
to the good good. I feel like right out of
the gates we have it in the NBA playoffs.

Speaker 4 (01:21:45):
Yeah, I gotta tell you, I'm I'm in and I'm
ready because I was a bitch and moaned during the
regular season about the league. Oh my god, gload management.
I was in an NBA city wasteland. I mean, my
team was tanking in January, right like you know, it

(01:22:08):
was just an ugly season. And you know, you and
I already in East, and the East had was terrible, right,
So I get it. If you're a Western Conference NBA fan,
you're going, what are you talking about? But the Eastern
Conference was hard. I'm ready to drop all that, right
and just dive in and not look at you know,

(01:22:31):
what's wrong with the league and two twenty threes. Now
I'm ready to just go enjoy because and I think
the West is going to be awesome. Like I just
take that Western Conference playoff. It's gonna be great.

Speaker 1 (01:22:45):
By the way, I never really thought of it. But
you're right, Like when you're living on the East Coast
and it's tougher to keep up with just being real,
it's tougher to keep up with Lakers games that tippets,
you know, ten thirty Eastern time, not paying as much attention.
So yeah, it becomes a little bit tougher time to
invest the same way in the sport. But you're one
thousand percent right. If you're on the West, it's been wild.

(01:23:07):
Like I look at this series between the Rockets and
the Warriors, and it's funny because you know, there have
been little flashes from the Warriors, especially in the back
half of the season that had everybody feel in this
hope that the Warriors could go on this iconic run.
In the meantime, the Rockets have done nothing but be
consistently very good, you know, and consistently very good and

(01:23:28):
slipt on it. Between the attention we pay to the
Thunder and then obviously to the Lakers and the Clippers
for right reasons, and then the fact that the Nuggets
have the resume they have, even though it's a bit
of a disaster, I feel like the Rockets have just
sort of fallen by the wayside. There an afterthought, and
the world is sort of bracing for this opportunity to
see Lakers Warriors in the second round, which would be awesome.

(01:23:50):
But I'm not willing to completely roll over on the
Timberwolves or the Warriors in their respective series, or the Rockets.

Speaker 4 (01:23:56):
I should say, yeah, yeah, no, no, I feel you
on that. I mean, you know, Houston is so interesting
because of Jalen Green, and you know, they seingoon like
they got players. I don't know if they're ready to
win and win a series, but they got players. Man,

(01:24:19):
that's a good squad.

Speaker 1 (01:24:20):
I feel you.

Speaker 3 (01:24:21):
You know, I could be guilty of it. Two.

Speaker 4 (01:24:24):
You know, I look at Golden State and I'm just like,
all right, well because the staff and Jimmy like how
they're built for now, aren't they? Like that's I keep
going back to it. And you know, as much as
I like the young Rockets, I mean, Golden State has
to win.

Speaker 1 (01:24:41):
Yeah, You're right, they're built for it. And this is
where too, you got to pay attention a little bit
to the actual win loss record, for example, instead of
just the seating, because this is a two versus seven,
but don't get a twisted four games separated at two
versus a seven, you know, so it's not like some
years were two versus seven feels like this catastrophic moat

(01:25:03):
that is between these two seeds, And you're right, like,
it's just hard. As well as Stephan and Jimmy have
played together of late, it's hard not to believe in
their ability to win a series like this. And that
takes nothing away from the Rockets. It's just, man, the
Warriors have been here over and over and over and over,

(01:25:25):
and you know, playoff Jimmy is a real thing over
and over and over. So like, just like I think
to be consistent. I said earlier, I'm a little nervous
about relying on you know, James Harden in any big situation.
I'm a little hesitant to not rely on the Warriors
in a big situation because they just have too many
people that have been there, proven that they rise to
the moment.

Speaker 3 (01:25:46):
Yeah, man, I mean nothing.

Speaker 4 (01:25:49):
I mean look at them right, Like you know, when
you got Stephan, you got Jimmy, and you got Draymond.

Speaker 3 (01:25:55):
I mean, come on, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:25:57):
And I mean on top of all of that, you
also have a coach that I think sometimes I think
we talk a lot about everything else with the Warriors,
but there is some element of Man, it's a beautiful thing,
like when you see a team consistently come in with

(01:26:18):
the star power that they have and the ability to
manage the most of those stars and make the most
of those moments. Like Steve Kurr has done a really
amazing job of running a team with big personalities and
big stardom and running that team as efficiently as possible
and getting every ounce out of them that he possibly
can and all the right times. Like you know, I
know that Steve Kerr can be polarizing for some For

(01:26:41):
everything that has nothing to do with basketball, and I
just again to be consistent on that throughout the course
of the morning. I don't care about any of that
in a seven game series. I have a lot of
reasons to trust Steve Kerr too, So you know, that's
like the extra secret sauce to what I think makes
the Warriors tick and why, you know, particularly, I'm excited
like everybody would be. You know, the first round is

(01:27:01):
gonna be great, but if there's a chance I can
get Lakers Warriors in the second round, I want that.
Inject that in my veins.

Speaker 4 (01:27:08):
And check that in my vein. All right, let's go
over the weekend's card. We'll look at each series, all right,
So today we get started one o'clock eastern, ten Pacific, Milwaukee, Indiana.
Now Dame is making progress with the blood class.

Speaker 1 (01:27:26):
Yeah, that's huge.

Speaker 3 (01:27:28):
It is huge. It's a huge, monster thing.

Speaker 4 (01:27:32):
So this will be interesting. Let me intereseen today. If
you know, Giannis could carry them against Indiana, this will
be fun. But if Dame comes back, watch out, Bucks.

Speaker 1 (01:27:47):
I think there's a lot of pressure on Indiana to
want to win this game. For that very reason. You
gotta get one in before Dame comes back and give
yourself the best opportunity. Milwaukee is so confusing to me
because if we were playing two K, I'd feel really
good about taking almost anybody on with Milwaukee, right like
you feel really good about the talent there. But ever

(01:28:08):
since coach Budd got fired, it feels like a revolving door,
and the revolving door never really settles on anything that
gives them the same level of intensity and the same
level of can't miss. And you mentioned Giannis and you know,
no doubt, one of the best players in the world.
But it's just amazing how it went from this conversation
a few years ago about how many championships can Milwaukee

(01:28:30):
win to now, my god, what do they have to
do to get back to where they were? So you know,
we're asking Yiannis to do a herculean lyft in that
first game, but he really needs to because if they
get that, if they can manage to get an early
lead in the series and then get Dame back, oh
that's game changer.

Speaker 3 (01:28:46):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:28:48):
And then at three point thirty Easter through twelve thirty
Pacific also a d ESPN, Clippers and Nuggets. This is
gonna be a great series. I can't wait for it.
I talked about it earlier. I actually like the Clippers
in this series. I think the Clippers I think the
wrong team's favored. Obviously, you know, we all know what

(01:29:08):
happened the Nuggets and Mark Malone and everything. They don't
feel right to me. And meanwhile, all I do I
think the Clippers are most underrated team in the league,
with the most underrated great player in the league and Kawhi.

Speaker 1 (01:29:24):
I also think part of the what and the why
and the how for Malone and Denver matters to me.
You know, reports came out afterwards. A part of the
reason he was like, oh, is that players didn't like
the preferential treatment that the stars were getting on that team.
If that's the case, that doesn't change, you know what
I mean, Like that didn't suddenly change a few games ago.

(01:29:44):
Maybe there's a little bit of a wake up call,
but that just speaks to a fracture somewhere. And man,
it's hard for me to trust the team that changes
a head coach with what three games left, four games left.
I mean, you're talking about such so late in the
season to make that change. I'm with you. I think
it's it's it's dumb to bet against Jokic, but I

(01:30:06):
can't just make Jokic bigger than what they're taking on.
I think I'm torn on the series. I'm not comfortable
putting my money on it, but I am leaning Clippers.
As we talked this morning, you're sort of leading me
that direction because everything you just say makes sense and
I'm just not comfortable with Dever.

Speaker 4 (01:30:21):
Yeah now, and and and think about to me, the
X factor is Zubas right, yep, Zuboches talk about the
Clippers just underrated everywhere they are.

Speaker 3 (01:30:31):
Kawhi is a great, great player.

Speaker 4 (01:30:34):
Listen, James Harden is playing amazing basketball like he's a
Hall of Favor. Now he comes up small and I
you know, we've talked about this before, and you know
you always have those moments in the playoffs. I've witnessed
it firsthand. But I don't think he I think this

(01:30:56):
is a perfect team for him because he could still
go off in a couple of games.

Speaker 3 (01:31:03):
Just play hardened point card.

Speaker 4 (01:31:06):
You got Kawhi, right, you got you know, Norman Powell,
who's perfect in that raw volume score, and then you
got Joe Botch like in Jewel Box, like that's a
bad matchup for Denver, this this Clippers team.

Speaker 3 (01:31:22):
So I look at I look at this thing, and
I love that to make a deep run.

Speaker 1 (01:31:27):
Yeah, to your point, if Kawhi is healthy, Kawhi is Batman,
and now all Harden has to do is be Robin
and he can be a rock. You know, Like I
don't I don't want him coming in and crime fighting,
but I don't mind if he's in the you know,
red white and blue neon next to the actual crime
fighter saying.

Speaker 2 (01:31:45):
Let's go, guys, Like that's more than rule this point
for him for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:31:48):
Lunch here and there, yeah here, and when you land him,
everybody's like, holy cow, Robin land a punch like that,
it's amazing, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:31:55):
But you're right.

Speaker 1 (01:31:56):
The pressure, the pressures off, the eyeballs are off, and
part of of the like, to me, when great players
fail in huge moments, that's a that's a question of
how you handle adrenaline and pressure and all these other
things that come together. We all remember Kawhi getting the
shooters role, you know, incredible shots that that helped Toronto

(01:32:17):
win a championship.

Speaker 3 (01:32:18):
Right, Ah, don't tell me about that. I'm just the
triple quadruple doink.

Speaker 1 (01:32:25):
Yeah, yeah, shooters roll.

Speaker 3 (01:32:27):
Bing bing bing in. Oh god, I could just see
it fading away. I don't know how that shot went in.

Speaker 1 (01:32:37):
Never should have gone it. That's the sort of shot
like when somebody heaves it up in the gym. You're
like no, and then it goes in and you're like, yay,
you know that. That's it? One hundred percent?

Speaker 3 (01:32:48):
What do you make of this? Serious?

Speaker 4 (01:32:50):
I'm looking forward to this series because I like Detroit.
The Pistons are a team. They tried during the regular season.
They were they never shorted you with effort. Now either,
they struggle back end of the season. But can they
give the next a threat? Can they give the Knicks?

(01:33:11):
Make the Knicks sweat?

Speaker 1 (01:33:13):
I think they're gonna beat the Knicks. How do you
like that? I mean they won that, they won the
season series. It's a lot different, you know. But I
went down the deep dive being the nerd that I
am yesterday and was just reading too many articles and
I talked myself into this throughout the course of it.
But man, I walked into it at first saying okay,
Nixon six and and by the time I finished, just

(01:33:36):
going through everything and what am I missing? What am
I missing? These numbers that are pretty staggering on Kay
Cunningham and the pick and roll against the next defense
was was It's pretty remarkable. I think it's a I
think it's a matchup nightmare. I just I think Kay
Cunningham goes big. I think this is this series works
towards the Pistons, and Detroit gets the plucky win, and

(01:33:57):
Knicks fans are ripping their hair out.

Speaker 3 (01:33:59):
Wow, waha, I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:34:03):
Gonna I'm going Detroit and seven Detroit. I went from
Nixon six to Detroit and seven. How do we like that?
I think this is a pick seven?

Speaker 3 (01:34:11):
Wow, that's wild. You know what? The line the line
for the game that Nick is seven and a half.

Speaker 1 (01:34:19):
Plenty of you know what, plenty plenty of.

Speaker 3 (01:34:21):
Times you're gonna make a play the window.

Speaker 1 (01:34:24):
Look, I'm I'm gonna think about it. I don't know
when you when you look at playoff, do you get
nervous bet in the first game of a seven game
series playing playoff basketball? Like I get nervous. First games
of series are so much like the beginning of a
prize fight, where it's just like a punch here, a
punch there, and I don't know what to make of it,
so you know, I get a little nervous on it.

Speaker 4 (01:34:44):
Well, you're gonna you're gonna later on our man, the
brain is gonna join us. And you know, he calls
it pre flop when you bet on the game before
the game, and he's right, you're better off just playing
a because you'll get a better read on on it. Yeah,
you don't know how they're gonna come out. Who's gonna

(01:35:06):
be tight with the matchup. It's gonna look like you're
better off just waiting.

Speaker 1 (01:35:12):
Yeah, you're talking me and to this, I'm gonna wait.
Once we tip, I'm gonna be I'm gonna sitting there with.

Speaker 3 (01:35:16):
The Apple clips the Clippers.

Speaker 2 (01:35:19):
No, like the Clippers thing. I feel confident about.

Speaker 1 (01:35:22):
What about? Uh, real quick here, we've got Minnesota and
the Lakers again.

Speaker 3 (01:35:27):
That's another great series, man.

Speaker 1 (01:35:30):
But but the Lakers are I was so wrong about
the acquisition of Luca and what it would mean for
the Lakers. I can't say that loud enough. I was
so wrong about how easily it has jailed together and
how just locked in Luca has been.

Speaker 3 (01:35:45):
Man, I remember you being I was.

Speaker 1 (01:35:48):
I wasn't anti yet, I just was like, yeah, we'll see.

Speaker 7 (01:35:51):
I was.

Speaker 1 (01:35:52):
I was sort of lukewarm, and and the Lakers haven't
been anything other than lukewarm. Like this is just looked
to me, you know, every time I watch them, it
looks easy, and when you see them on the floor,
look easy in these situations. That's what I wasn't I
wasn't sure if I thought, you know, it was a
bad move for Dallas but a move for the Lakers
until we saw it, and now it looks like it

(01:36:13):
was a horrid move for Dallas and an absolutely brilliant
move for the Lakers. It sets them up for the
next decade.

Speaker 4 (01:36:19):
Yeah, yeah, I listen. You can never count out Tea Wolves, though,
because they're a team that could come at you they
get hot. We've seen them in the playoffs before we
get hot. And I'm a huge ant Man fan. I
love ant Man.

Speaker 1 (01:36:38):
Well, okay, so say quick break, we'll make our picks
and then we'll keep going through the slate of NBA
playoff series. Skitch caught up on what you need to know.
We'll do that next to Fellas on Fox Sports Radio.

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live video simulcast on the Fox Sports Radio YouTube page,
brought to you by Dollar Shave Club. You see, Anthony
actually has to shave to keep his face like that. Look,
I'm basically a child. Like if I go four or
five days and don't shave, people are finally like, oh,
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(01:38:31):
like three times a day, you know, just keep the
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We'll get back to the NFL drafted a minute.

Speaker 4 (01:38:40):
Real quick. My little one, is it my twelve year old?
It's starting to wear cologne now? Oh god, oh my god.
In the morning before school, I'm like, dude, I'm like
one squirt, man, you don't need to do three or
four of them. Like in the like, I'm like, I'll
get in the car because I dropped the school every day.

Speaker 3 (01:39:02):
I'm like, dude, easy, easy.

Speaker 1 (01:39:08):
That's like the ride of passage. Every kid, every kid
when they start wearing coloonne just wears so much of
it and I don't know, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:39:14):
Every yeah does it. Yeah, Yeah, it's great. Yeah, he's
old and there's nothing you can't pair it around and
you know the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (01:39:22):
God, So what's his what's his prep time in the morning?

Speaker 4 (01:39:25):
Now, he's still he still quick, right, but he goes
the heavy cologne. So I think he's using the cologne
over the shower that is. But he will Yeah, you
did the athlete so he played, you know, we were
at games every night, so he showers at night.

Speaker 7 (01:39:48):
I am going to say this applies to girls too
at that age really, like with like the bath and
body spray. Yeah, like during like middle school, like after
pe we would just like dowse our and just bath
and body works.

Speaker 1 (01:40:04):
That is. That is amazing. As somebody. By the way,
Bath and body Works hit me up. Candles are a
buy one, get one this week. I got my cupeon.
I'm ready, I'm going today. I had a buddy house
sitting for me when I was gone last year and
he opened up my like you know whatever, linen closet
and he's like, dude, do you own a candle store? Like,
I got a lot of Bathroom body Works candles. I'm

(01:40:25):
not gonna lie, like that's my So I wait till
they're fifty percent off and then I take my twenty
five percent off your entire order cupon and I go
and then you get a couple of like I've got.

Speaker 2 (01:40:34):
A free free item on top of that that coming
this time.

Speaker 1 (01:40:37):
So yeah, I'm a Bathroom body Works snop, but I'm
not much of a admittedly not much of a cologne guy.
It's a but it is funny when you're a kid.
That's just part of I think you got to figure
that out on your own. And I don't know why
we can't all figure out how bad that smells, like
how over over stinky or over smelly it is. And

(01:40:57):
then there's some people that never grow out of it,
Like you know, for me, like when I'm at the gym,
if I can smell your cologne when you walk by
me in the gym, then like there should be there
should be a way that we press a button and
that person has to go work out somewhere else Like
that's all because like it's singing my Like, I genuinely
would rather have somebody that you know, has culturally decided

(01:41:19):
they don't they don't believe in deodor and things like that.

Speaker 2 (01:41:21):
I'd rather have somebody next to me, like with a
really bad body odor than.

Speaker 1 (01:41:25):
Somebody next to me that is wearing like eighteen pumps
of whatever cheap cologne is just running through my nostrils
while I'm trying to breathe while I'm lifting. It's the
worst thing in the world.

Speaker 4 (01:41:36):
Yeah, well, I don't understand the colonne. They go to
the gym like you're going out at night.

Speaker 3 (01:41:41):
Whatever. The worst is the dude.

Speaker 4 (01:41:44):
And you know, believe me, my culture right around where
I live, there's a lot of dudes that wear a
lot of coloone, right, but you'd shake their hands and
in your hands stink like the cologne. It's like, yo, bro,
just easy man, easy walk into it.

Speaker 3 (01:42:04):
You don't need to just doubse on your hands. My god.

Speaker 1 (01:42:09):
Also, like there's no way that any any person of
the you know that you're interested in, is going to
be interested in that level of cologne stink. And then
my first thought is going to be like, what are
you masking that you're wearing that much of it? Like
what's your natural stank?

Speaker 6 (01:42:23):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:42:23):
Like and the gym, particularly in my experience so far,
like I'm still relatively new to this gym life over
the last year. I'll say this, most of the times,
the guy that's wearing like eighteen pumps of cologne is
also the guy that spends the whole time, like takes
five minutes between each set that he does, and he's
just staring at himself while he flexes in the mirror.

(01:42:44):
Like that guy, I just I can't I get it, Like, hey,
whatever gets you to the gym, and however you get
the most out of it. Like I try to be
super supportive. I try to like create a foster and
environment of like, hey, let's all get the best out
of it. But I just can't with guy that like
does one set of triceps at five pounds and then
spends the next ten minutes flexing his arms to look

(01:43:05):
at all eighteen muscles in his eye, like, its just
I can't do it. I can't do it.

Speaker 3 (01:43:08):
That guy.

Speaker 1 (01:43:09):
That guy should have his own are there should be
a vanity area of a gym that it's like its
own corner with just mirrors and like lightweights and like
an air air machine that sucks the colone. Ow's that's
all we did.

Speaker 3 (01:43:21):
Yeah, that's great.

Speaker 1 (01:43:23):
I gonna bring that to the Planet Fitness in Connecticut
and then we'll go from there. Okay, we were talking
about the Minnesota Lakers series. Who do you got? Like?

Speaker 2 (01:43:34):
Ultimately I'm gonna pick the Lakers in that series?

Speaker 3 (01:43:36):
Are you?

Speaker 1 (01:43:36):
Are you also picking Lakers?

Speaker 4 (01:43:38):
Yeah, although I I'm close. I mean I think this
is a coin flip. I lean Lakers only because the
Lebron factor, right, Lebron Luca, I mean almost the Rivers
playing well, I just think they got a little too much.

(01:43:59):
But I'll I'm going to root. I'll probably root. I
love Ant man man, I'm an Anthony Edwards fan. And
uh I because there was growing up there was nobody
my first name, Anthony, nobody else. People call me ant right,
not Tony. I don't like Tony right, so everybody called
me ant and so I finally found another athlete they

(01:44:22):
call ant and so I love him. I've always loved them.
He's a great actor and uh he's a great ballplayer.
And I like that Minnesota team. I just like the
way they play. I think it's a great series.

Speaker 1 (01:44:35):
Probably Lakers win, though well you know, I'm usually an
agent of chaos, so the agent of chaos wants Minnesota
to win. But I don't know. I think the Lakers
have become that same chaotic love him or hate him,
people are gonna have opinions on them as they go through.
So I think I'm rooting for the Lakers in this series.
But also to me in these things, Okay, if I

(01:44:55):
think it's a close series, who can win me the game?
There are more guys that I trust, you know, down
the stretch. I won't let my team lose. I mean,
we've seen Luca just drag teams to the NBA finals
cough MAVs, and uh.

Speaker 3 (01:45:08):
You have two guys like that.

Speaker 1 (01:45:11):
Yeah, So I think that's that. And Ty goes to
the Lakers in this one, So I like the Lakers. Now,
Memphis wins through the play in to get the opportunity. Congratulations,
John Marett. You got your team through the plane, which
I think was important. But now you're just gonna get
your ass kicked by Oklahoma City, right Like this is
gonna be It's gonna be a painful watch right.

Speaker 4 (01:45:30):
Yes, yeah, I think they're that good, you know, honestly,
you know, I mean, Okase, He's just a great, great team.
I know that they slumped a little bit toward the
end of the season, but that's a great team. And
I give Memphis a ton of credit.

Speaker 8 (01:45:45):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:45:47):
I mean, Jow was on a ban ackle he bowled
out last night, and I like that team, Bane, I
love I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:45:55):
You see the quid, the quality of play he's given them.

Speaker 1 (01:45:59):
Yeah, yeah, and like not for nothing. I think Johnny
needed this moment of the play. And I was talking
to the Memphis radio station last week and like, at
some point, if you want to if you want to
change some of the narratives that have been created around
you and in professional sports, you have to have moments
in your playing career that are bigger than the moments

(01:46:19):
that are not part of your playing career, right, And
for Jow there's just this. There have been highlights, but
for the last couple of years, it just hasn't been
put together the way I think a lot of us
hoped it would be. For job. So it's it's I
think it's a substancewer to your point, I don't want
to minimize the moment and what it means for Memphis
to get a win out of the play and give
Job the opportunity to continue going. It's just this is there.

(01:46:42):
There's not It's not even close. If you were playing
two K and you were playing too like like skilled people,
the person that has okay, so he's going to kick
the person with Memphis. But like they're they're just a
better team top to bottom. So I don't think we
get much obviously.

Speaker 3 (01:46:56):
It's so deep.

Speaker 4 (01:46:58):
I mean they have you know, they come at you
and ames, they have great depth. They're just a great team.

Speaker 1 (01:47:03):
They really Also it also feels like this is maybe
the final crowning moment on the conversation around SGA, who
has the chance in these playoffs to really catapult to
the next level of stardom with a nice run by
Oklahoma City. So a lot to like there for the Thunder.
What about Orlando Boston? Again, I don't want to simplify

(01:47:25):
the Eastern Conference, but it just feels like, I mean
it's four.

Speaker 4 (01:47:28):
I mean it's you know, maybe five if Boston doesn't
feel like playing one game.

Speaker 1 (01:47:35):
Yeah, if things get cute, the magic get won, right,
Like that's just yeah, I think we're in agreement on that.

Speaker 2 (01:47:41):
What about the heat in Cleveland then, I mean, Miami.

Speaker 1 (01:47:45):
Gets their way in to take on Cleveland. It just
feels again like this is gonna be any matter.

Speaker 3 (01:47:49):
I mean, they can't play with Cleveland. No, Cleveland was
that That's insane to me.

Speaker 4 (01:47:55):
It's the same thing Cleveland has it off night, maybe
heat steal one.

Speaker 3 (01:47:59):
But you know, it's a route.

Speaker 1 (01:48:01):
So in your mind, is the East down to one
of those three teams? Okay, see Boston and Cleveland.

Speaker 3 (01:48:06):
Well you well, okay, see in the West.

Speaker 1 (01:48:09):
The East to me is oh sorry, yeah, yeah, it's
just between Boston. I was looking at today schedule. It's
a two horse race.

Speaker 3 (01:48:16):
Yeah, it's it's it's a two horse race in the East.

Speaker 4 (01:48:19):
I mean, you know, quite frankly, as much as I
like Cleveland and we'll root for Cleveland and be Boston,
I don't think they can in a seven game series.

Speaker 1 (01:48:29):
Yeah I don't. I don't either. I think this's a
but it is. The East has been clearly defined by
two teams. One more game on the slate, and this
one is you know, we talked a little bit about
it earlier, but it is interesting. Golden State taken on Houston.
I think we're both leaning Golden State and in this one.

Speaker 3 (01:48:45):
Is that is that fair saying yeah, yeah, I think
you have to.

Speaker 1 (01:48:49):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:48:50):
I just think.

Speaker 4 (01:48:52):
When you look at those two closing, when you have
two closures like that in this kind of series, like
it's a real young team. Rockets are a good team,
and they're a good young team, but come on, you know,
I mean, you got you got guys who just win.
I think that's what the playoffs is about.

Speaker 1 (01:49:12):
How much of that, in your mind, is to do
with Golden State versus how much of it is to
do with Houston. Like I think my point here is
that I think any team that Golden State would be
playing in the first round, naturally, we're all gonna say,
man that that's gonna be a tough out, right, And
then you combine it with the fact that it's a
young Houston team. Like I know, I started this whole
playoff conversation talking about Oklahoma City, you know, needing to

(01:49:35):
go on a run to stop the narrative that regular
season doesn't matter. But I'd be pretty nervous if I
was having to make this decision between Golden State and
Oklahoma City as well, like, I just think there's a
level of street cred that goes to Golden State, and
particularly the way they're playing with Jimmy Butler that we got.
We gotta sort of press pause on some of our
narratives around it. And this is a reborn, re energized

(01:49:56):
version of Golden State that still has some legends on
it that we've seen do legendary things.

Speaker 4 (01:50:01):
Yeah, like I like them. You know again, I like
the Mitch Houston. I think Okay, she's too good, too
deep for him. But against you what about the Lakers?
What about Golden State Lakers? How are we feeling on
that one?

Speaker 1 (01:50:17):
Like, if we get Golden State versus the Lakers, I mean,
that's that's a tricky series.

Speaker 4 (01:50:21):
That's a great series. Yeah, I probably lean Lakers in
that series. It's a great series. I like Clippers better
than anybody I like. Okay, okay, see's the best team
in a while. Look at it, right, best team. Clippers
are the most dangerous team, and then you got Lakers.
Is a wild card because of Lebron and and uh

(01:50:46):
Luca and then the same thing with Golden State, right, Like,
Golden State is a bit of a wild card because
it's Steph and Jimmy.

Speaker 1 (01:50:56):
So right now, as with the playoffs under way today
in full force, what do you think it? Lakers Lakers
Clippers for the Western Conference Final? Like is in an
all LA Lake Western Conference Final?

Speaker 3 (01:51:10):
Who is yet? Wait? It's Clippers play okay See in
the second round.

Speaker 1 (01:51:14):
Right right? Clippers? So if all, if all would go
to the way we predicted it at this point, you'd
have Thunder versus Clippers in the second round and Lakers
versus the Warriors.

Speaker 3 (01:51:24):
Wow, I'm gonna go okay See Lakers and wins. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:51:29):
Oh, so you've got okay See getting to the gett
into the final.

Speaker 3 (01:51:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:51:33):
I I to me, it's either okay See or the Clippers.
But I just think okay See is the deepest team.

Speaker 1 (01:51:42):
Can you imagine just put yourself in the suits in
the NBA front offices for a second and imagine a
Western Conference Final that has Oklahoma City in the Lakers
and an Eastern Conference Final that has the Calves and
the Celtics, And how differently they'll feel. No, that one
outcome could give them Lakers Celtics for the NBA Championship.

(01:52:04):
The other outcome could give them Oklahoma City versus Cleveland, Like,
I'm sorry, but like if you're the NBA front off
is like you're just sitting there saying, oh my god,
Like you couldn't have two more polar opposite results out
of that sort of opportunity.

Speaker 3 (01:52:20):
Wow, that's great, that's great. If you think about that,
that's great.

Speaker 1 (01:52:25):
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to watch from the NBA. We get back. Oh yeah,
you want to do a Stanley cup.

Speaker 8 (01:53:04):
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:53:06):
Let's let's lift Lord Stanley's cup. Let's go. We'll do
that then when we come back, He's Anthony Gargano, I'm
Jason Fitz. It's a Fellas on Fox Sports Radio. It's
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NBA playoffs get underway this weekend. Then in the NFL
Draft is only a few days away. Major League Baseball

(01:53:27):
is in full swing, but we all know that the
real draw is Lord Stanley's Cup. Oh, it's finally time
for hockey playoffs, and look, I will die on this
hill constantly, my friend. I'm not sure there's anything more
suspenseful in sports than going to a live hockey playoff match,
because there is just something about, you know, late in

(01:53:47):
the third period, it's a tie, it's thy game, and
everybody in the entire place is on pins and needles,
like there is something about knowing that one goal, like
one one bucket in the NBA, you can over on
one touchdown. In the NFL, you can overcome a late
goal in a Stanley Cup playoff game can just absolutely
derail an entire season. It is. It is one of

(01:54:10):
the delights in all of sports. And we're about to
get that like the level of angst. I'm gonna need
extra edibles because all I know is that it gets
everything gets tight. You know, the Golden Knights have had
a good year. Not not as good as it was
a couple of years ago, but they've had a pretty
decent season. This year, They've been really banged up. So
you know, I'm excited for the playoff run to start,

(01:54:30):
but also I don't know that my nerves are ready
for it.

Speaker 3 (01:54:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:54:34):
I gotta tell you, man that speaking again, the West
is unbelievable. Yeah, and you're gonna have to deal with
Winnipeg and Holibuck, Edmonton, Colorado.

Speaker 3 (01:54:50):
I mean, Dad, you got you know that.

Speaker 4 (01:54:53):
Even like your team, like the Blues and the Stars,
even though I don't think they're gonna get past Winnipeg
and Colorado, but they're nasty.

Speaker 3 (01:55:02):
It's gonna be fun.

Speaker 1 (01:55:03):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:55:04):
I love your Vegas squad. You love Jack, you love that,
you love that team. It's a great It's a it's
gonna be a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (01:55:12):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:55:12):
It's good. It's I'm pumped out for the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (01:55:15):
Yeah. The hard thing for the Golden Knights, and I
really think for everybody, is that I just don't want
to take on the Oilers in any sort of a series.
I just when you start talking about their ability, and
we saw it last year, right like when you talk
about their ability to just score goals in bunches, it's
it scares, It scares.

Speaker 3 (01:55:33):
The Bejesus power play.

Speaker 1 (01:55:35):
Yeah, it's just they are so tough to keep off
the board. And you know we always talk about a
hot goalie can can win you a cup. I get that,
but man, you you don't just have to be hot.
You have to be fire engine the entire way if
you're taking on the Oilers. So like the funny thing
is the draw becomes difficult. That was the case last
year for you know, the gold Knights. They ran into

(01:55:56):
the Oilers and that was a quick end to their postseason.
I just, you know, we talk all the time about
the failings of Toronto historically. It just maybe this is
my rooting interest, maybe this is just my heart, but man,
I really think we could end up on a collision.

Speaker 2 (01:56:11):
Course here for Toronto Edmonton all Canada Final.

Speaker 1 (01:56:15):
It just, man, it feels like this is finally the year,
like Winnipeg's best team in hockey. But we all know
when you win the President's Trophy, you don't win the Cup.
So I just eliminate them for no good reason other
than it never happens. So then I start looking at
the rest of the West. I'm like, man, no team
in the westcares me more than Edmonton, and no team
in the East has been more consistent than the Maple Leaves.
So I kind of like ending up with an all Canada,

(01:56:38):
the America's top hat, getting the chance to lift the
lift the Cup.

Speaker 3 (01:56:44):
The only thing is.

Speaker 4 (01:56:47):
Colorado is nasty, right like, right down, they're the betting favorite.

Speaker 1 (01:56:50):
I think, yeah they are.

Speaker 3 (01:56:53):
So you got that you mentioned in Winnipeg. Figure, I
get it.

Speaker 4 (01:56:58):
If you win the as this trophy never you never
get to the Cup. But Hellabuck can put an end
of that because Hella Buck is that good. You know,
when it comes down the goal toeing, He's the one
goalie I trust over anybody else.

Speaker 1 (01:57:14):
I agree with that, and you're right, like, that is
the scariest thing in the world to face. It's just,
you know, defense wins championships, but offense wins hearts, you know,
And that's yeah, there is some level of that. I
think you're right about that. And look Colorado. I still

(01:57:36):
am sort of my brain is stuck on the fact
that they're so far ahead of schedule, Like just nobody
thought that this would be Colorado this year. So you know,
it feels like I hate that adage of oh, you're
playing with house money, because you're certainly not in marathon sports.
But it feels like Colorado to the Cup is just
such a reach from where we thought they would be.
But you're right, they're the betting favorite at this point,

(01:57:57):
and that's for a reason. Tough draw for them too,
like that because realistically, like you just said, the West
being so tough. All right, so you're Colorado, you get
through Dallas, which is not gonna be easy, and your
reward for that will be likely to try to get
through Winnipeg, who, as you just mentioned, best the hottest
goalie in the league and the best team in hockey,

(01:58:18):
and then your your win for that will be the
opportunity to I think, go through either Edmonton or Vegas,
who are two of the best teams in the league. Also, like,
just to get to the Stanley Cup through the West
for a team like Colorado is just gonna be a
I mean, that's juggernaut man. Like it is battle test hockey. Man.

Speaker 4 (01:58:36):
God, yeah, yeah, you're right on now. The East is
interesting because similarly, you know you mentioned in Toronto, I
love to see Toronto'm rooting Toronto. I would love to
see them falling breakthrough. I'm a big Burubi fan. Who's
the coach at Maple Leafs. I'd love to see them breakthrough.

(01:58:56):
I mean as al as this not Tampa or to Florida.

Speaker 1 (01:59:01):
I can't deal with that. I don't. I don't. Yeah,
I'm tired of the Florida teams going on this run.
It's exhausting to me. I'm done with it. I don't
trust the capital's long term to be able to like
it's a great story. And look, I'm just I'm always
out on the Hurricanes because they stole hockey from Hartford,
so you know, like that's just as a general rule,
the fact that they still wear the throwbacks of the whalers,

(01:59:22):
and it makes a whole state just absolutely collapse, Like
I can't find it in my heart. So maybe that's
the way I get to Toronto. It's a weird way
to get to Toronto in the East. No, I like it.

Speaker 3 (01:59:31):
I like, I would love to see that. I would.

Speaker 4 (01:59:34):
I would love to see them do it. I'm a
you know stars, right, Rolston Matthews.

Speaker 6 (01:59:39):
And.

Speaker 2 (01:59:42):
I'm taking Edmonton over Toronto for the final.

Speaker 1 (01:59:45):
What do you got?

Speaker 4 (01:59:45):
All Right, I'll go. I'll go Toronto as well, but
I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go Winnipeg.

Speaker 1 (01:59:54):
But our hearts on this show will always be with Vegas.
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(02:00:16):
buying should be. He's Anthony Gargano, I'm Jason Fitz and
it's Draft week. It's the best. I'm telling you. There's
just something and maybe maybe Anthony, I was asked the
other day if my team didn't always suck, what I
care about the draft as much? And you know what,
it's a fair question. I think here's the thing with
the draft. What I love about the draft is it's

(02:00:40):
such a vibe for everybody, Like thirty two teams. Thirty
one of the thirty two teams are gonna be convinced
that they got better and this is the year they're
gonna take a drastic step forward. And one team, the Eagles,
are gonna be convinced that they've managed to stay the
course and they're gonna repeat right, like everybody feels, and
if you're not in that feeling, you are so far

(02:01:00):
the opposite way. Like nobody comes out of the draft
usually lukewarm. You come out of the draft either the
sky is falling and what's the point of being a fan,
or you come out of the draft with this level
of just sheer joy that nobody can talk you off
of for months. And it's funny because I often look
at the football season like a unhealthy relationship. Okay, at

(02:01:20):
the end of football season, this is like you're honest,
like you just broke up with your girl. You realize
in that moment, like she's crazy. We didn't work it
all together. It was terrible. We hate each other. All
we do is argue. You realize at the moment at
the end of football season, after Week eighteen, you sit
there like, my favorite team sucks. We don't have any
linebackers were don't have any corners. Running back is a good?

(02:01:42):
Offensive line isn't good? You got the laundry list right.
But then about a month later, all of a sudden,
now we hit the we hit the scouting combine, and
you're like, well, there's some things out here that can help.
That's like a little bit removed from your relationship. You
feel a little better. And then you get to the
point where all of a sudden you have free agency.
Well that's like you're looking at a social media posts
you're like, oh, man, I remember, like it wasn't it

(02:02:03):
wasn't that bad, Like we had some good times. That's
what happens. And then you hit the draft, and all
of a sudden, you hit the draft and you're like,
oh no, this is different, Like this thing's fixed, just
like your relationship. A few months later, you're like no, no, no,
like I totally got this wrong. We weren't unhealthy, we
were stable, we were great. And you go through the
whole summer just realizing no, we're gonna get back together

(02:02:24):
and it's gonna be fine. And then Week one of
the regular season is the first date where you realize
she's still crazy, like this is the whole process we
go through in the off season, and the draft is
like the big, big, big, big turning moment where look,
Jets fans are gonna be convinced that now, hey, we
don't need Aaron Rodgers. Justin fields is gonna be everything

(02:02:44):
we need. And we've got a new coach that knows
how to win defense in football games, and we're gonna
manage these situations.

Speaker 3 (02:02:50):
Better.

Speaker 1 (02:02:50):
Look at who we got in the draft, Like, Jets
fans are gonna walk themselves into not sucking. Panthers fans
are gonna walk themselves into not sucking. Like that's why
there's all this joy around at Anthony, because teams suddenly
become convinced of the change in their organization all over
the course of three days of people running around in
their underwear that have nothing to do with actual games
on the field.

Speaker 3 (02:03:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:03:11):
Now, And it's the interesting thing about the draft, Like
we love it, right, we're also big college football fans, right,
the NFL fans. There is two groups of there's football
fans that love the NFL, love college right, that's where
you and I are at.

Speaker 3 (02:03:31):
But there's a.

Speaker 4 (02:03:32):
Whole segment of NFL fans that don't watch college football
but love the draft.

Speaker 3 (02:03:39):
It's bizarre.

Speaker 4 (02:03:40):
I got a buddy of mine I work with, like,
he's like huge draft guy, and I'm going, dude, you
don't watch college football, why do you.

Speaker 3 (02:03:48):
Love the draft? I loves it, loves it.

Speaker 4 (02:03:51):
He's like, I watch all he watches all the highlights
and whatever after the season, and I'm like, make those sense.
But there's a lot of NFL fans that love it.
They love the draft, they love this idea of it,
even if they don't watch college football.

Speaker 1 (02:04:11):
That's where I beg everybody. When you're trying to figure
out what you really care about for your favorite team,
don't just listen to the people that you know that
cover drafts. Don't just as great a job as.

Speaker 2 (02:04:27):
Many of them do. And I have been coworkers with
them for years.

Speaker 1 (02:04:31):
Go back and find your favorite college football minds, people
that just cover college football at nauseum every week, every day,
and just read what some of them are saying about
these players, because you get a much better insight. You
really will. And I tell people all the time, like,
there was somebody I worked with for years that hosted
draft content at ESPN, and he hated college football. And

(02:04:52):
so every year watching him cram for three months for
the draft was to me maddening because I'm watching him thinking, man,
you make your life a lot if you just spent
every Saturday watching college football, because you'll have a pretty
good idea of who some of these running backs are, like,
you'll have a pretty good idea of how some of
these receivers play.

Speaker 4 (02:05:09):
Clause when you watch a player, like you know, when
you're watching Ashton gent T, you go, all right, well,
I know that he's He's legitimate in every which way,
including you RJ after contact was like, you've seen him live,
break tackles and make something out of nothing.

Speaker 1 (02:05:29):
And I think to that end, you know, I was
watching Get Up the other day and Greeney talked on
Get Up about the fact that you know, he he
reads every mock draft and he studies for the draft
because he hosted for ESPN, and he's stunned that anyone
would think that Jalen Milroe could go in the first
round because there's just.

Speaker 2 (02:05:45):
It's never been written, it hasn't been talked about.

Speaker 1 (02:05:48):
And I just kept watching that the whole time, thinking, man,
if you watched Jalen Milroe every Saturday, you understand why
there's a possibility he would go in the first round.
I'm not saying he's going to be good. It's just
like you've seen enough of the traits that you know
the league.

Speaker 4 (02:06:01):
Like if you cover the NFL and you know what
they draft for Georgia, you go, uh, man, Now, if
you saw them in the ball game, it's Michigan. But
there is there were games where you went, oh, my god,
because he does have incredible traits.

Speaker 3 (02:06:21):
He does.

Speaker 4 (02:06:23):
I mean, if you can get even the right hands
that can fix them and work with them, then you
got yourself a dynamic player.

Speaker 1 (02:06:31):
Well and years ago a former player told me, never
forget coaches have the bigger egos than players have, right,
And I do think there's a level of I can
fix him from so many coaches. So when you see,
especially now that we know more than ever the first
round of the draft, we're seeing teams aggressively be open
about drafting for traits, They're drafting for development, things they
think they can get out of certain players. Look, would

(02:06:54):
I personally draft Jayla Miller in the first round? No,
But can I understand why an NFL team would? Yeah?
And I do the logic to figure out why a
team would overlook some of the flaws in his passing
skills to simply look at and say, no, I think
we can develop that over the next couple of years.
Like if Sean McVay decides he wants to take a
flyer on somebody like Jaylen Milroe, nobody will question it
because he's Sean McVay, right. I just I think that

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you just have to step back sometimes and look at
the college game for more than just you know, stats,
and more than just wins and losses, more than any
of that, and ask yourself, like, what are teams drafting for?

Speaker 2 (02:07:27):
And you have a better understanding of how the draft
is going.

Speaker 1 (02:07:30):
To play out.

Speaker 4 (02:07:31):
Yeah, no, I think you're No, I think you're spot on.
It makes it, It just does make it so much fun.
And you know it's a celebration of the sport. And
by this point in time you started getting it right.
You missed the games. It's been a while now since

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the Super Bowl, and you know.

Speaker 3 (02:07:54):
You miss your team.

Speaker 1 (02:07:57):
Well, yeah, and this is the chance to connect with
your team in a way that while certainly the day
after there'll be winners and losers. We do that every year.
It's a stupid exercise, but we all have to do
it because that's what we get paid to do, even
though we won't know the winners and losers for five years,
but we do that. And the weirdest part about all

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of that is that nobody will be able to change
anybody's mind. And that's the beautiful thing, Like you're reconnecting.
If you're a Raiders fan and your team takes whoever
they take in the draft, you're gonna walk away from
it either feeling great about it or feeling terrible about it,
and nobody's gonna say anything that changes your mind. And
there is something to that reconnection and the party vibe

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around it, like, look, I've been lucky enough to be
at Super Bowls and NFL playoff games in person, and
you know, the final four. I don't think there's a
more fun experience in person in sports. In the NFL Draft,
like it is a wild party for three days of
fans that just are electric because of the buzz around
it and the hype around it. And hope, like hope

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is the the hardest thing to get and the easiest
thing to lose when it comes to watching your favorite
football team every week, Like the amount of fans that
will be convinced their team sucks and the season's washed
after one week because they've suddenly lost all that hope
at week one in August September, like week one, but
right now, next week, like when we're on the air

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tomorrow or a week from today, you know, when we're
hanging out talking about the first round of the draft,
We're not gonna be able to convince anybody that their
favorite team won or lost it. We won't be able
to change anybody's mind. And that's one of the beautiful
things about it.

Speaker 4 (02:09:35):
Yeah, no, well said eloquent. I think you nailed it.
So give me your top Let's go through the first round,
and let's here, it's your top ten.

Speaker 1 (02:09:51):
Cam Wore's gonna go number one to the Titans. The
Titans are going to Yeah, I think you know that.
That one's pretty set. Here's where it gets interesting. I
think cam Ward if he went to someplace that could
develop a quarterback and knew what they were doing with
the quarterback, I think that could be a really good
draft pick. Unfortunately, I think it's more likely that cam
Ward struggles, which means Brian Callahan's fired, which means a

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new mind comes in next year. It's more people call
me a Titans hater when I say this, I'm not
a Titans hater. I'm just a realist. Look at it
like that organization has gone back and forth on like
a seesaw between firing the GM and the coach for
the last couple of years. Now they've got a GM
that didn't hire this coach, and so you know, it
just feels inevitable that the Titans win four games with
cam Ward and then all of a sudden, a new

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coach is coming in that's bringing in a new offense,
and we'll see how that means for his development. Like
when Trevor Lawrence was drafted, I said that the Jags
would fail Trevor Lawrence before Trevor Lawrence failed the Jags.
I feel that tenfold when it comes to the Titans
and cam Ward. But I do think he's a first
overall pick and I think in the right situation he
could be a pretty good quarterback. I just don't think
the Titans are the right situation.

Speaker 3 (02:10:56):
All right, So Ward one got.

Speaker 2 (02:11:02):
Travis Hunter, goes two to Cleveland.

Speaker 1 (02:11:05):
I feel pretty good about that, and they don't have
anybody to throw them the football, So Travis Hunter becomes
a corner almost immediately because his time and wide receiver
will be fairly wasted year one, I think.

Speaker 6 (02:11:16):
But.

Speaker 4 (02:11:17):
I still love I would love to go Carter, and
I you know, I could be easily talked in the
Carter because having Miles Garrett and Abdul Carter on the
same front is almost unfair.

Speaker 1 (02:11:32):
Yeah, I mean, but that's why my God like Abdul
Carter wherever he goes, whether it's two or three, because
I think Abdua Carter goes three to the Giants, and
the Giants have done sort of the they've done the
blue Light special Kmart version of Philly and trying to
invest in the defensive line, and I like that. Just
keep going, like, just keep going, give yourself every pass

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rusher you possibly can. I love that strategy. I wish
there was a way Abdul Carter would somehow all to
six won't happen. He goes at three to the Giants,
and the Giants give themselves I think, a marked improvement
from day one on the defensive line, which that makes
the tangible difference. It saves so much of the rest
of your defense.

Speaker 4 (02:12:11):
Right, Yeah, yeah, you have to you got it all right?
So if you got then this is where the draft
really begins.

Speaker 1 (02:12:22):
Yeah, this is where.

Speaker 3 (02:12:26):
You got Campbell, you got Genty.

Speaker 1 (02:12:32):
I don't think I don't think the Patriots can pass
on an offensive lineman. They're desperate there so and they
shouldn't like Will Campbell is is I think the best
of these offensive linemens. So take Will Campbell at four,
which then leads to Mason Graham at five. I think
that's all pretty I think that all makes sense in
my mind. That makes sense. I will I will be

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the contrarian. I've thought it was Ashing Genty at six
this whole time. As we get closer to it, I just, man,
I feel like the Raiders is an organization. Chip Kelly
knows these Ohio State backs really well. I think he's
gonna go with where he's comfortable. And then you look
at Seattle in their past, and you look at at

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the Buccaneers in the way that they did things with
spy tech. I think that I'm on Membo. The offensive
lineman out of Missouri becomes the sixth pick to the Raiders.
They need offensive line help all over the place. I
think they address that at six and shock people by
not taking Ashton Genty.

Speaker 3 (02:13:31):
Wow, dude, how did you feel about that?

Speaker 1 (02:13:36):
Look, if you tell me that they draft Astro Genty,
I'm gonna do cartwheels.

Speaker 2 (02:13:40):
If you tell me that they take a big, fat guy,
I'm gonna do cart wheels.

Speaker 7 (02:13:43):
Like.

Speaker 1 (02:13:43):
The great thing is that the Raiders need help everywhere,
But I just get a great player. I do think
that the drop off on offensive tackle as they get
later in the draft becomes difficult, you know, So go
get go, get your guy. But man, what makes me
nervous is that I can't get it concent It's just
out of any of these guys. Like I genuinely can't
tell the world after probably fifty phone calls and text

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conversations with different guys, I can't tell the world who
the best offensive lineman should be in this So you know,
I I'll trust, I'll trust the eyes of the new organization,
and and I'll go with Membo at six, which means
I think I go Tyler Warren at seven to the Jets.
They didn't take brock Bowers last year. I think they
take Tyler Warren this year. Does that feel right to you? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (02:14:28):
Although I'm gonna tell you I mean, if you're going
to sit there and I love Warren, but Warren is
not Bowers.

Speaker 1 (02:14:39):
No he is not.

Speaker 4 (02:14:40):
And I love Warren, but he's not Bowers. I mean
that's where the position thing. I'm on the other side
of it in this sense that unless unless he is generational,
I got it, I got it.

Speaker 3 (02:14:55):
Not I can't take a tight.

Speaker 1 (02:14:56):
End then, I I mean, but then can the Jets Jack?
Can the Jets? Can the Jets? Yeah? Can the Jets
justify taking Genty?

Speaker 3 (02:15:06):
I mean, like I mean justify trading out to the Cowboys?

Speaker 1 (02:15:11):
Yeah? I mean you're you're That's where it gets really interesting.
Even if the Raiders decide they're going to go offensive tackle,
do they try and trade down? You know, because I
certainly think to your point where the draft starts, if
you're the Saints and if the Saints are interested in
the quarterback, do you start getting trigger happy to try
and move up. If you're the Cowboys, are you trying
to move up to get Ashton Genty? I The Cowboys

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and the Raiders have a long history of doing business together.
Jerry Jones and Mark Davis. I think that's a pretty
easy phone call to make. So you know, if they're
not going to take Ashton genty. I do like the
idea of Dallas moving up into the into that six
spot and taking Ashton.

Speaker 3 (02:15:46):
Well, that's just off talking because they they everything we hear.

Speaker 4 (02:15:52):
Cowboys are not looking at gent, they're not looking at
a running back, and they don't want to use capital
trade up right.

Speaker 1 (02:16:01):
We're just talking about what we think makes sense. But
I but I can go with the because look, Carolina
at eight, they need an edge rusher, So that feels like,
you know, Walker is the right right choice. And I
think the wildcard is nine, like New Orleans at nine
is genuinely the wildcard to me of are they going
to go quarterback? You mentioned earlier that they player oh Man,

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so that which is only I don't want to say
surprising to me, but I'm guessing you're saying Will Johnson
there then the corner out of Michigan, And that's that's
the other thing too, Like I'll go back if if
the world believes it. I mean, six feels too high
for a corner in this particular draft, but man, the

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Raiders have a desperate need at corner, and we all
know Pete Carroll's history. Like, yeah, Will Johnson could go
as high as six. I think that'd be high for him.
But man, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:16:59):
Like I said that, I mean, I mean, you know
Travis hun Yeah, but pure corner that's the best cure
border in the draft.

Speaker 1 (02:17:10):
So if we've done that, then we've gotten one through
nine and we've only had one quarterback taken. And I
will just again remind everybody that the next really quarterback
needy team picking. I mean, you could make the argument
Indy's gonna take another stab at it, but it feels
early to do that with this draft class. I mean,
you're talking about twenty one for Pittsburgh. I mean, we
could be looking at Pittsburgh trying to sit around and

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figure that out. The Rams at twenty six. Are they
going to try and move up and get a quarterback
in the future. It's this gets really really shocking. As
we go, we'll get some of the brain's thoughts on it.
Plus the NBA playoffs the best way to bet it,
we'll figure that out. Coming up next, He's Anthony Gargato.
I'm Jason Fitzis the Fellas on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 6 (02:17:53):
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I've managed to say ship station without any mistakes so far.
All morning the brain joining us. Now, we've got to
get to some insight on what to do with the
NBA playoffs, the NHL playoffs.

Speaker 2 (02:18:58):
Obviously we got a lot of playoffs.

Speaker 1 (02:19:00):
But let me ask you, first, Brain, is there ever
anything real to like betting the NFL draft? I mean,
from a professional standpoint dose All my friends constantly text
me about it. Do you stay away from that stuff?
Are you in on that? Where are we? It was
such a good question, such a good question, he left us.

(02:19:20):
All right, So all right, we'll figure it out. We'll
figure out where what's real and not real on that.
I'm just interested because you never know what what people
are looking at. But certainly there's odds being taken on
literally everything in the world. And so we'll see. We'll
see here, Brain, I hope we got you. Now we'll
get to the NBA playoffs, NHL playoffs. But do professionals

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play anything on the NFL draft? Okay, great, it's.

Speaker 8 (02:19:46):
A great question.

Speaker 3 (02:19:48):
You know. It's funny.

Speaker 8 (02:19:48):
It used to be, it really used to be that
that was one of my biggest money makers of the year,
and it was like almost like being in a candy store.
But what's happened is because the sports folks lost so
much money initially in these drafts, what they've done is
they said, you know what, Okay, we're going to beat
you and basically every single sport, but we're not. We

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can't beat you here. So what they did was they
basically made it where the limits are maybe like one
hundred bucks. Like I'm not trying to laugh at that,
but they're not going to lose. They're not. They're going
to make sure that they're not going to lose their
shirt on the NFL Draft anymore. So for me, I
used to dedicate an enormous amount of resources and trying

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into doing it because I could get down a lot
of money and I was going to win seventy five
eighty percent of my debts. But now I don't even honestly,
we wanted to look at it because the amount of
money I can make is trivial. It's just not worth
my time in resources because the sports books won't let you.
They're not gonna let you beat them. They're just not
going to let you do it. They've lowered their risk

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tolerance at such a level that you know, it's more
just for you know what, we're looking for recreational purposes
more than anything else.

Speaker 3 (02:21:02):
So brain top of the morning to you, Good morning.

Speaker 4 (02:21:08):
How do you look at today's let's start at NBA
and uh, let's look at today's card.

Speaker 3 (02:21:15):
I was quoting you earlier because I told.

Speaker 4 (02:21:18):
FITZI that you are a big not a big pre
flop guy for reasons you just said, correct, and that
you'll be live in game seeing how games go because
you get a good feel for a game. Uh, and
then you'll be attacking props on.

Speaker 8 (02:21:34):
But listen, that's being said in the NBA. These games
today there's just one game. I actually did that, and
I actually do like it. I do think some value.
Look now, Damian Leward may be back in this series,
but first of all I don't know is how compromise
he's going to be or not be based off the layoff.
But I do like Indiana laying. I've been Indiana laying
five and a half in this game, anthy. I think

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they have, like, you know, legitimate eight man rotation. They're
a legitimate team to me. The Bucks without Lillard, I
just don't think they're very good at all. Now, they
won like I think they're last seven in a row
down the stretch. But if you look at that, I
think they beat Nowhere Leans twice. They beat the sixers.
They had one good win against Minnesota when they were

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down by twenty five at the end of three and
they somehow, somehow down twenty five into three and winning
the game. But I think Pacers are a better team.
I think it's gonna be a big Pacers win where
I think they win the game by you know, quite handily.
That's my favorite game of the day in terms of
the NBA.

Speaker 3 (02:22:36):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (02:22:36):
I like that when you are well, go ahead, good.

Speaker 3 (02:22:40):
I was going to fall up with props that you
had props in that game.

Speaker 8 (02:22:43):
That you like, Yeah, well, yea, I'll give you. I'll
give you some props, guys. And I do like look
Miles Turner under seven after he bowns fifty six and
twenty six the average six and a half. Again, it's
one off and again when you get something, it's one
off and the low pace number. Like as I always say, guys,
like an NBA game, deld runners two thirty two and
I have to get two thirty one and a half.
Not that it doesn't mean something, it does, but it's

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a lot more valuable when you're getting under seven and
a half rebounds from the numbersty six and a half.
Jalen Brunson under three and a half rebounds is forty
seven and eighteen. Kawhi Leonard his last twenty games over
five manth rebounds of sixteen and four. Those are three
stuff in the NBA that I like. And I also
zoobots of the Clippers. I've been taking his overs all year.

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They need him sixteen and a half points. He's averaging
like twenty one in the last six weeks or so.
I think even in a playoff game, I still think
he still goes over that against Denver.

Speaker 1 (02:23:33):
I do so walk me through a little bit of
your mindset and like, as we were talking about Denver
and the coaching change, when you see a change late
in the season and everything, like how cautious are you
to look at a team and actually put any action
on him?

Speaker 8 (02:23:48):
Well, you know, it's funny. I do like the Clippers
in that series. I think the Clippers are playing quite
well fitting and I think the Clippers are I think
they're kind of a live team to maybe Eden Puff
even if second ups if they get this one.

Speaker 3 (02:23:59):
But we'll about that.

Speaker 8 (02:24:00):
But yeah, listen, obviously it's if you're going to back
a team like that, I think, I mean, I think
you're kind of really, there's been one thing I could
think up in my lifetime or something like that ever,
like helped the team. But it was a completely different scenario.
It was when back in nineteen eighty nine, you know,
when Michigan when Bill Freer left to go to Arizona State,

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and Steve Fisher just came in and they all, right,
you know we have a new coach and right for
fourth tournament. Okay, right for the tournament, and then Michigan boom,
Glenn Rice Guitat. They went, yeah, a row. But usually
this reeks of desperation. Not saying that it wasn't necessary.
I'm not saying it's not essentially going to be decent.
But the chance of something like this to me working
out is equivalent to me of like a hell, Mary, like,

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you're not doing this unless things are really kind of
might being somewhat broken. So I'm not very bullish on
either mehis Memphis chances or Denvers chances of advancing this
next round.

Speaker 3 (02:24:56):
All right, look about tomorrow in the East Tomorrow.

Speaker 8 (02:25:02):
Well, you know it's funny. One of the things in
terms of Tomorrow's games, I'll give you a prop real quick.
I do think they're underrating Peyton Pritchard like his pre's
point three bits in the sister like thirteen and a
half fourteen half area he averages closer to twenty. I
think that's been beat up a little bit too much.

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I do think the Warriors are going to beat the
Rockets in the series. The spread in the first game
is like one and a half. I just don't trust personally,
don't trust Huston to win this kind of series. I
just don't think they're good enough offensively, just my opinion. Look,
he Cavaliers is theoretically I think it's going to be

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a blowout Austin or I don't think it's going to
be a blowout. Okay, see Memphis to me is probably
going to be a blowout. But I do think anything,
it should be a decent series. But I do think that.
I just think State is going to find a way
to get it done against a Houston team that I
just think, offensively big moments is going to struggle to
score if they're in a close game. I don't like

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them down the stretch.

Speaker 1 (02:26:11):
It's interesting to me because you mentioned a couple of blowouts,
and I think we agree on that, Like we talked
about some of these series, particularly in the East, that
look like they're just going to be cakewalks. Where do
you find value in a blowout series?

Speaker 8 (02:26:22):
Well, again, I'm always looking to see I'm always looking again,
it's looking, but anything can be valuating. And I always
say you have to bet. You bet numbers, not teams, right, Like,
if you made the Celtics minus five against Magic, I'd
make it all in bet and the Celtics. If you
make the Celtics minus eighteen and a half against the Magic,
I've make it all in bet on the Magic.

Speaker 1 (02:26:42):
Right.

Speaker 8 (02:26:43):
It's like if you find the number, if you think
there's a number that's off, you bet the number, and
you bet there's value. You go with the quote unquote
value in the series. Like this, again, I always look
to live bet as Anthony says, you have the pre
flop versus the live betting. Always look at a live
betting and like that to me is one of the
best ways to attack these games, especially these playoff games.
Especially these playoff games, watch to see what's happening, see

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which teams can't maybe handle certain matchups. And usually I
find these playoff games when it's going a certain way
for a team you it stays that way for the
second half, so that's something I'll be looking for. And
then of course the props, which I'm looking at every
single every single day. But I got something real quick.
I got a baseball game. I've never said this. I
don't I've been doing this for an years. I've been

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on your show. I would go as far to say
in my lifetime, I have never been more shocked. Whatever
word I'm looking for, I told you on these line moves,
I am on the right side ninety eight percent of
the time. I made my biggest baseball bet in the
last five years in a game and the line are
seriously against me. Line has gone drastically against me, which

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I'm like, I just can't figure it out. But I'll again,
this is a game that I thought this line should
be at least minus one fifty taking Mail plus one
oh three. Hunter Green, who I think Bedwin saw Young.
I personally, I think he's the best picture in major
of the baseball right now. Maybe him are schoobl I
thank him one or two right now today. Obviously things

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change or whatnot. But he's going against Brandon Young his
first start for the Baltimore Oriols. How am God's greener
if he's an underdog. I can't figure it out. I
don't understand it. But you can now get him in
a price I lead, I lead probably an average price
of about a dollar twenty or so. Now he's getting juice.

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I just don't understand it. I love, not like love
the Cincinnati Reds today. I think you have the best
picture in the league against a rookie, even the first start.
I'm just going to take my chances to the best
picture in league can win.

Speaker 3 (02:28:50):
A lot of people say this to you.

Speaker 4 (02:28:52):
Let me just back you up for a second, because
yesterday on my local show, you had the Reds. Yesterday
you thought the line was off. You said the wrong
team and the Reds one big yeah.

Speaker 8 (02:29:06):
Baltimore is a teaman. In my opinion, that was my
biggest over under before the year was they're under and
I think the masters think that they're better than they
really are. I everyone listening them.

Speaker 3 (02:29:18):
Can you guys know.

Speaker 8 (02:29:19):
Sports are an expert level. Okay, you guys, those worst
better than ninety nine point nine percent of people. Just
give me a favor. Look at this, Look at the
Baltimore Oyals team. When you're like when you're on a
commercial break, look at their pitching staff. Look at that,
look katy yourself. The team is being priced is like
a it's like an eighty eight win team. They're blot
out blow average and people just don't realize it. But

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again they'll realize that one and sixty two games are done.
But there's just they have no pitching. They have literally
as bad a pitching as there is in almost in
the entire sport. But people just because they warn't a
lot of games last year, well, they're missing their entire
team from last year. I mean, they're missing Cordon Burns,
they're missing Kyle Bradish, they're missing Zach Eflin and then

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mister Grayson Rodriguez. So he's took the block of the day.
Steve Avery, John Smoltz, Tom Glaviney, Greg max Off. The
Brave rotation probably weren't going to be as good. Same
thing here, but a couple other one to get running
again and real quick, guys, Logan Gilbert's going intose Barrios
Mariners against the Blue Jays. Two things I like in
this scheme. I like the Maners laying one twenty in
the game, and I like under four and a half

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in the five inning line. Uh think both pictures should
have success Paul Steins against Ben Lively, Guardians against the
Pirates like under four and a half the five inning
line till very comfortable schemes will allow zero or one.
And Lea's at least, in my opinion, serviceable enough that
they had getting Pirates team. I don't think it's gonna
score them much more than like two runs. And I'll

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give you one more seth Lougo against Casey myiz. I
think both pictures again should have success or runners four
and a half. I think that's going to be a
very low scoring game as well. And again, don't trust
eat a bullpen. So I put a the five inning games,
five inning line in the games, I just said.

Speaker 1 (02:31:02):
And yeah, it was just that same thing you love
in the in the Quest for the Cup?

Speaker 8 (02:31:06):
That's right, brother, would would you say and here the
Stanley Cup? He said, yeah, yeah, you know, funny, guys,
I really like, really really like. I have a pretty
big bet on two teams two series. I like Tampa
Bay to beat the Panthers. Uh, the Panthers to me
against defending Stanley Cup champion. I get it, but I

(02:31:29):
do not like the way this team has played down
the stretch at all. And I know their pedigrees is
just nails, but you know what, so it was so
it was Tampa Bay. Campa Bay has has been an
incredible team to me in the playoffs as well too.
I like Tampa Bay to beat Florida, and I also
like the Kings. I think the wrong side is favorite
in the series. That's my favorite bet of the first round.

(02:31:51):
I think I have a team that is flat out
going to win because you get the comfort of having,
you know, guys like McDavid right fight or et cetera.
I think the Kings have been playing much better than Edmonton.
I think Edmonton standing up injury wise, and I flat
out again, I think the wrong side is favored.

Speaker 3 (02:32:13):
Wow how you feel about that, Betsy.

Speaker 1 (02:32:16):
Yeah, well you know, I just picked Edmonton to go
to go all the way. Look, I look this, this
is why you're the You're the betting expert, and why
I'm constantly reloading my account. You know what, that's just appreciates.
Appreciate you, my friend. Tell everybody where they can check
out all the information. Of course, Yeah, we'll.

Speaker 8 (02:32:35):
Be a Brad's best bets on Twitter. But I appreciate
both of you guys so so much. Good luck to
everyone out there, and again trust Draws with the live betting,
and I think you got, you know, the best device
to cal always give you guys. It's one of my
favorite things to do.

Speaker 1 (02:32:49):
Appreciate you as always, Brad, Enjoy it and we'll talk
to you next week. Great work from Brad. I'm going
to take the break and go put a bunch of
money on the on the Reds matchup. That's what I'm
gonna go do right now. In the meantime, we'll wrap
up the Fellas when we come back. He's Anthony Gargana.
I'm Jason Fitzefellas, I'm Fox Sports Radio. It's Fellas. I'm
Fox Sports Radio. He's Anthony Gargano. I'm Jason fitz For

(02:33:15):
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Radio and the iHeartRadio app. All right, Anthony, I think

(02:33:40):
of you what I think a bye way. You know,
I'm gonna be singing this during the NFL Draft when
the Raiders take Ashton Genty at six, and I'm not
gonna listen to any of the hate that people sit
there and give me about oh, it's too high to
draft a running back and he's gonna be I'm not
gonna listen to any of that. You know last year,
Last year was an easy draft for me. I said

(02:34:02):
going into last year's draft that for years, the hardest
part of the draft is just sitting there, especially when
I'm hosting live draft streams that you know they'll get
in your ear and be like, sorry, we don't have
anything on this player. We never thought he would go
in the first round, which actually happened to me when
Alex Leatherwood was drafted. I it was a joy last year,
like genuinely the only time in my entire career at

(02:34:24):
ESPN hosting these live streams. You don't have commercials where
they got my ears as Alex Leatherwood was the pick
and the producer got my ear and said you got
a stretch man. We don't have any be on him.
Nobody thought that he was gonna go in the first round.
Our production team didn't have any highlights ready for it
with the first round. That's how shocked people behind the
scenes were of Alex Leatherwood's pick. And just think about
how every year I had every face on set look

(02:34:46):
at me like I was an idiot. When the Raiders
picked this year or last year, I should say, brock
Bauers was selected, nobody looked at me like I was
an idiot. Everybody looked around and said, man, that's a
really good pick. That's all I want. I just want
my favorite team not to blow it. Times. The way
to not blow it is just to take a great player.
You know, I like, we can get lost in the well.
Will this will this great player really be great for

(02:35:08):
this team? All of these conversations, but okay, I continually
go back to this concept of game wreckers. There are
only a few game wreckers in the league, and if
you can get one, go get one. So I just
don't care. I don't care at this point if the
Raiders go ashing gent and you shouldn't draft a running back,
I don't care if they take a linebacker. In the
first round. I just don't care. Just go get somebody

(02:35:29):
that universally everybody says, man, this guy can play football.

Speaker 4 (02:35:33):
Really, you know you're right about that. Just get a
football player, now, I hear you. Now, I know you'll
be working, but how will you be consuming it?

Speaker 3 (02:35:44):
The draft?

Speaker 1 (02:35:46):
Working the whole way. So in addition to the amazing
Fox Sports Radio, which you have to check out Draft
night coverage. Yeah, Yahoo does is doing a live stream
for the first three rounds, so the first two days
of the draft, So I'll be I'll be working the
entire time, which actually I find a lot of peace
in because I can't dwell on it too long, you
know what I mean, Like, I can't just sit there

(02:36:07):
the whole time and just think what did we just
do with this pick? Like you know, and look is
somebody that grew up. Like I remember sitting there having
to justified Darius Haywood Bay being, you know, drafted so high.
I remember sitting there having to apologize for JaMarcus Russell
before he'd ever thrown a pass. I mean the number
of first round I remember the year that they had
three first round picks and blew two of them. Like

(02:36:27):
it's just it's over and over and over again. So yeah,
for me, just the consistency of work is a beautiful thing.
What about you, like, is there like a big is
there a big Eagles watch party or like a celebration
or something that you were like anything fancy?

Speaker 4 (02:36:42):
You know, No, Actually I'm gonna be I think we're
doing a column record piece, so I'm not gonna spend probably,
I mean, I think he's gonna go uh Friday, but
we may do something Thursday with him just in case.

Speaker 2 (02:36:59):
Yeah, and you've been consistent on Kyle McCord the entire way,
Like it feels like, you know, there are people around
the league that are higher on Kyle than I think
the general mock draft community is given credit for.

Speaker 3 (02:37:13):
You know, yeah, I like I mean, I mean I
divorced myself. I know the kid. I like the kid.
I think he's got real talent.

Speaker 4 (02:37:24):
Talking to the NFL people, he's an interesting case because
I think he's a kid that they believe can come
right in and can can because you could sling it.
He's got a terrific arm. He's a good athlete, and
I think they look at him like, you know what,
he's on the radar. Guy and nobody's really talking about him,
so they're going to kind of keep quiet. I had

(02:37:47):
a buddy of mine who's a GM tell me he's like, dude,
he goes, you know, you were talking about all the
mocks and all the stuff, and he's like, you know,
when we don't talk about guys, that tellent we go
out of our way not to talk about certain guys.

Speaker 3 (02:38:02):
Other guys notice that.

Speaker 4 (02:38:03):
Like, so you'll have a player that might have some
heat on them and you won't hear a lot about
them because they don't want to talk about And that
could be in the court situation. The quarterbacks, I'll ask
you of those second tier quarterbacks, who do you like,
because I think you're getting a lot with Kyle Man.

Speaker 1 (02:38:27):
I think so. Look, I like long term, I like
Jaylen Milroe if he goes to the right spot. I
agree been pretty consistent on that, Bree. I like. I
think Kyle is the sort of guy that comes in
and has an opportunity. Like the Brock party thing is
used too often. I think Kyle has the opportunity to
come in and compete easy, backup year one and give

(02:38:47):
him a couple of years he could start. You know,
I think like Kyle. I would take Kyle over Will Howard,
for example, I don't. I don't share everybody else's love
affair for Tyler shuck.

Speaker 3 (02:38:57):
In Parker, I don't know either.

Speaker 1 (02:39:00):
I mean, there's some inconsistency on tape with him in general,
but also he's twenty five, and if he needs two
or three years to develop, then he's twenty eight. So like, look,
I think if mccor goes somewhere, like if the Raiders
draft McCord, I love it. Like whoever these guys go to,
if they go to a situation where they've got a
quarterback mind on it, I feel good about it. But
I feel pretty good about Kyle going in at the Pros.

(02:39:21):
What about you?

Speaker 4 (02:39:22):
Yeah, I do too. I agree with what you said
about Milrow. He's someone I really like.

Speaker 1 (02:39:29):
I do.

Speaker 4 (02:39:30):
I like him and the dark thing man, I don't know.
I was higher on him than talking to some people
this week. Kind of give me make me more luke
warm about stuff. I wouldn't know more about his demeanor
and everything.

Speaker 1 (02:39:46):
I'm pretty high in Jackson Dart. I just think he's
gonna be gone in the first twelve. I think Jackson
Dart's gone before in the top half of the first round.
It'll be exciting no matter what, as will Fox Sports
Radio all day stick with us. Thanks for listening to
the Fellas.

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