Monse Bolaños & Kerry Rhodes Talk NBA Conference Finals, Olympic Flag Football, Aaron Rodgers, and So Much More!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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do you wish you were out of barbecue instead of
hanging out with me right now?

Speaker 4 (00:34):
Absolutely not, That's the right answer. This is the place
to be.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
This is the place to be.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
This is exactly how Also, our producer Shay and our
technical producer Chris Field, they're like, we don't want to
be at a barbecue, we.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Don't want to be drinking right now. We want to
be here hanging out with you.

Speaker 4 (00:47):
Love me calories.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Anyway, there you go, Thanks guys. Uh, Carrie, let's dive
right into it. Game three. Did you fall asleep?

Speaker 3 (00:56):
Because I did in the fourth quarter between the Tunroos
and Okay, you no joke.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
I fell asleep with I'm trying to Oh no, fourth quarter,
I was watching Atlanta. Yeah at that point, Yeah, it
was over exactly exactly. Minnesota came out to play obviously,
And it's so crazy when you watch these games and
you know they're they're so complete in their one game analysis.
Most people, when they look at it, mm hm, you'll see, Okay,
see win the first two games at home and just
say the series is completely over. And it's just not

(01:23):
like we've jumped to the gun on these things and
these predictions, and it's just it rubs me the wrong way.
I mean, Minnesota wasn't going out without a fight and
they were not going to lose Game three.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Oh so what did you see that made you think that?

Speaker 4 (01:34):
Right? People say it though, it's just it's like crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
What did okay see, dude do what they're supposed to
do at home? Win at home? Yes, you guys like I.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Also, in one of the games, shake Gildos, Alexander receives
his MVP trophy.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
Of course he's going to go on to play.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
I also, I'm pretty sure at halftime it was either
tied in.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
One of them, and in one of the games, Minnesota
was up at.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
Half, like, yeah, this was not a way for me
to walk away thinking, oh it's over, right, But so
many people.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
People already disposed the brooms own yes.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
And I was like, what are you guys watching that?
I'm not.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
It's it's insane. And it's just like the discourse around
the sports community in general, like everything's like hyper that's
the word. Like not even desensitized, it's just like hyper.
Like people think that one game really tells and dictates
and Dick Takes dictates the story. It just doesn't. It's
a playoff series against the two top teams from the West,

(02:29):
and you think that just because somebody lost two games
that it's over. It's not. Just like this other game
that comes up later today we will talk about, and.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
We will talk about we'll dive into that one as well,
and we are going to chat with Mark Stein, our
NBA insider in a little bit. We have everything on
today's slate from NFL to college football to easy as one, two, three, four,
carry on or off.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
So don't go anywhere. This is just the beginning as
we try to crack this game.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
Because, like you said, people dismiss the Timberwolves and then
the Timberwolves came out and literally like annihilated. Okay, see
from the beginning in the second quarter, I before like
they were already up, but I was like, they're gonna
score seventy in this first half, and they did, and
they did. It was a complete game for the Timberwolves
from beginning to end. We joke about, okay, see, guarding

(03:16):
you the minute you get.

Speaker 4 (03:17):
Off the bus.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
It seemed like the Timberwolves guarded you the minute you
got off the bus in Game three because they had
something to prove because everyone dismissed them.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
So with that, how much credit not that's not the word.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
But in this blowout win, what does this really tell
us about the Timberwolves?

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Because I feel like we learn more about teams.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
When they're tested, when you don't just win wire to wire,
And that's what this was.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
Yeah, the Timberwolves are one of the best defensive teams
in the league and obviously didn't play that way in
the first two games. So go back to the draw
on board. Remember our principals, Remember the team we are.
Obviously we have elite scorers and Randall and the ltwards
who can go out and get buckets and score and
keep them in the game. But we play defense, yeah,
and we're going to show you. I mean, obviously everybody

(04:00):
been talking about Okayc's defense, and you know they should
have after the first two games, but no, Minnesota's like, no,
we do this too, and we can also have our
role players at home shoot the ball like they're used
to shooting. And then you see the balanced team that
Minnesota is and what we thought coming into the series.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
And Minnesota just struggled also in the first two games,
right like they're shooting wasn't as great they did not,
So it was another reason why I was like, you
guys are just throwing them to the side already, but
in reality, they haven't played as good as they're capable of.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
That we have seen.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
And Anthony Edwards like, hit or miss when it comes
in the first half usually comes alive in the second half.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
You could say it's too late because it's in the
second half.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
Julius Randalls struggled the first two games against OKAC kind
of picked it up again in this one, and it
was I expected Minnesota to win.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
I did not expect that type of blowout.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Nobody wants that. Again, I fell asleep, but not trying
to which is the best?

Speaker 4 (04:54):
You know, closed along still a straw stole in your mouth.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
From you on the couch on the cow having a drink.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
And I'm just like, fell asleep and woke up, and
I was like, when did I fall asleep? And Sean's
like in the fourth quarter, and I was like, huh,
must have been that that boring for me, but I
didn't even realize it.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
But I love it. I don't take naps. My best
naps are in movie theaters.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
What disgrace. I don't know what it.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
Is about the loud noises. She's like nodding his head.
But I don't nap. I don't nap. Ever, I'm a
really bad napper. And every time I go watch a
movie in a theater, I take a nap.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
It's the room, it's just the dark room.

Speaker 5 (05:33):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
The loud noises, I don't I don't know what it is.

Speaker 4 (05:36):
What movies are you watching?

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Even action movies. I'm taking like a nap in Star
Wars nap.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
And it's a little nap.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
It's like, I'm not trying to.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
I'm not trying to. I'm just telling my best naps
come in movie theaters.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
And yes, I had a pretty good nap in the
fourth quarter of this blowout game, which again I was
ape Minnesota to win.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
I just wasn't expecting this type of blowout.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
Yeah, and I feel like this game is, this series
is not over. But I will tell you one thing
that I've noticed. Okay, see, the reason that they may
win this series, it is because of their depth. Because
I feel like in the second half of game one
of games one and two, that is when it seemed
to me like Minnesota was a little gassed in comparison

(06:26):
to Oka.

Speaker 6 (06:27):
See.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
Yeah, and I think that's true from the first two games,
but as you saw in Game three, Minnesota went a
little deeper in their beds.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
They did.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
And the crazy part about the NBA, and I tell
people like this all the time, the fifteenth man on
the bench in the NBA will go to a wide
jam and won't miss. So this is how talented these
guys are. So just because some of those guys aren't playing,
they can I e. Tarren Shannon Junior comes in against
Minnesota in the second quarter and scores nine points straight

(06:57):
for Minnesota. Like that's how that's how deep they can be.
So I think the thing about Chris Finch and the
Wolves is now give some of its starters a little
bit more risk. And I think again, once we talk
about this other game later, TIBs need to think about
that as well. But yes, you have to in the playoffs.
I know want to. You want to cut your bench
short and have go with your best players for extended

(07:20):
periods of time when you're playing great teams. That takes
a lot of energy. So you need to have guys
on the bench that can come in and relieve those guys.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
And I agree with everything you just said that these
guys won't miss a shot in the gym down the street.
But when you don't give them the minutes during the
regular season, the reps the expectation for them to do it.
In a high leverage game, you can't expect them to
do it, even though they are capable of it.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
They are on the roster for a reason.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
But it's like, why why not do this during the
regular season when it's obviously you want to get the wins.
But as we're seeing, the regular season is only a
small fraction of what these teams are really capable of.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
And to do this and now for the Timberwolves in
Game three. Is it too late?

Speaker 4 (08:06):
Yeah, I mean I don't think so. I don't think so.
I mean obviously, like the proof is in the puinning
for a Game three alone. He came in and he
did that, right, So if you add him to the mix,
now that's a nine man rotation. You know that that
kind of matches, okay rotation. And so if he can
come in and give Anthony Edwards four or five minutes
like he did in that game yesterday, this team will

(08:28):
be This team has a chance to come back and
win this series.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
What impressed you? Were you more impressed by the blowout
or were you just kind of like, okay, see threw
in the towel early, like it seemed that way.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Didn't you get that vibe?

Speaker 4 (08:41):
I don't think they threw it in early, but yes,
in the third quarter it was over. It was over
in the second like be real, but think about it.
They came out in the third quarter and went on
the tennel run. So they didn't phone it in Minnesota.
Just a better team than Game three, and that happens.
We know that in the course of a playoff series,
the best team is going to win. But that doesn't
mean that they won't lose a game here and there

(09:02):
that doesn't look like their normal selves as well speaking
about Okay, see, so I mean this is one of
those games. Minnesota was desperate, they knew it. They came
out and played that way, played tough, and their star
player scored seventeen points in the first quarter. So he
came out and let them know what type of night
this is going to be from the start.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
From the start, physicality from the start, from the Timberwolves.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
Shake Gildas Alexander the MVP. Only uh huh, only four.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
Or four free throw a merchant, which.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Which you know we've talked about that where it's like,
I see why he has that name.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
But at the same time, I'm like, why are you
guys hating the player? Hate the game? This has been
established throughout the season. Throughout the regular season, he's been
doing this.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
Maybe you should get bad at the NBA or the
Reughs for allowing this to happen the entire season and
now you're seeing nationally televised games because it's the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
But in reality, he's been.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
Doing this all season.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
He's been This is part of his game and he
also has to be good at it, not just anyone
can do it. So I understand where the name comes from,
but it doesn't bother me as much.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
It's kind of like Patrick Mahomes playing on the line.
He doesn't you know, he doesn't.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
Oh that makes me mad. Just so you know that
makes me mad, too, changed so much.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
You had like a little smile and then you just
got real serious.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
I hate it when he tiptoes down the sideline knowing
he's not gonna get hit. I would just I would
take him out.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
I agree, I think someone should take him out to
show him, Hey, this is football, right, But isn't that
the same thing. They're both taking advantage of the rules
that are letting them take advantage, right, And so in
this game, Game three, he only took four.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
Free throws and what happened? And then they lost? They
lost by a lot.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
But again, I guess what I'm the big picture here.
What I'm trying to say is like I don't know
how to really gauge what game three means because it
was such a blowout, such a wire to wire win.
What does this really do for Minnesota moving forward? If

(10:59):
Game four or is a close one, they have not
been able to pull out in a close game.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
Right in this in this series, No, in this series,
but they have experience in it, so I'm not worried
about it. But yes, in the Grands game of thing,
like you said, it doesn't mean much.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
This game they did doesn't and they're still down.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
They did what they needed to do. They did what
they needed to do, and it will not matter if
they lose Game four. It will That's all this means.
This is a building block, This is a step towards
where they're trying to get to. If they don't win
game four, it's off or not.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
If they don't win game four, and I feel like, okay,
see hearing the guys talk after, they were just like yeah,
like they came out stronger, They didn't seem bothered. Even
who was it Jaalen Jillen Williams said, I've.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
Lost by a sixties, so it could be worse. Like,
I really feel like they were not affected.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
And that's a good thing for the Thunder, maybe a
bad thing for Minnesota. Minnesota's got to ride this. They've
got to ride it, and they can't ease up on it.
You can't take your foot off the gas going into
game four.

Speaker 4 (12:00):
Well they're sorry, Well there are some things they did
in that game that was different than the first two,
and I think that's the important thing. Right, So you
change your game plan a little bit little bit if
you have your pickup points for Sga and Jalen Williams
that are a little a little closer to the basket
and not as extended, which makes it harder for Sga
and Jaye Wims to get in that mid range game

(12:23):
where they kill. So if you take a smaller like
a lower pickup point, that helps, right. That also helps
Rudy Gobert, who when you have a lower pickup point
that means he doesn't have to go out further. So
the things they did strategically in the game showed up
and mattered, and so for them they got to be
feeling good about game four two with their adjustments. Now again,

(12:43):
now we gotta see what OKAC adjustment is and we'll
go from there.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
The playoffs is all about adjustments, which Carrie and I
have talked about. I also thought the Timberwolves guarded the
ball a little bit better. They only had ten ten turnovers,
Yes that part when in other games they're like eight
turnovers and two quarters, You're like, yes, was only ten,
But again, was it only ten because of the blowout
from Wired? That's That's what I'm having a hard time
really trying to gauge what.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Game three meant for Minnesota. I'm glad they want it
because nobody wants a sweep.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
We want this game to go six, seven games, So
I'm glad it happened. I'm just trying, you know, like
I don't know where the credit, where the credit goes.

Speaker 4 (13:21):
Oh we get credit to Minnesota.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
Obviously, yeah, obviously, but you you get what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
It was a blowout win back to which way.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's all if if it, and I
hope again they keep your foot on the gas Minnesota
for Game four, do not take it off. Because OKC
seems unaffected by this blowout loss the way that they
spoke after the game.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's it's one loss.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
It's one loss.

Speaker 4 (13:45):
Yeah, I mean, you lose by one, you lose by fifty,
they're the same.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (13:49):
I mean obviously.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Easier said than done, though, but it is it's hard.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
It's hard, it is, yeah, And when you think about it,
when you lose by fifty, you'll be like, oh, the
other team play perfect thena blah blah blah blah. But
they're gonna say there's things that they can be better
at too, So you just never know.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
You just never know.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
But maybe we can get a little more information on
this game and the rest of the NBA playoffs because
we're gonna talk to our NBA insider Mark Stein coming
up next.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
Don't go anywhere. He's carry on, Moncy And this is
Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
What's up? Everybody? Happy Sunday Memorial Day weekend? Here.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
I hope you're enjoying yourselves, maybe barbecuing, having some hot dogs,
some cheeseburgers, some beers, uh huh, some Seltzer's. That's what
I would be having right now. I wasn't here with you.
I'm gonna have one after. Don't worry, I little Seltzer.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
Are you going out somewhere? You got to No, I
want to watch.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
The game at home, chill out.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
I may go to the movies later. I haven't watched Sinners.
What I know, Carrie, I know, and the goal is
to not take a nap.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
You know what I'm talking about. You gotta listen to
the start of the.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
Show to see where I'm coming from a Fox Sports
radio here Monty Belanyas alongside former All Pro safety Carry
Roads talking NBA, and we have our NBA insider Mark Stein.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Mark, how is it going? Are you celebrating Memorial weekend?

Speaker 6 (15:09):
I am not even in the country right now. It's
a long story, long long story.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
Okay, Well, come back safely, please to our country whenever
that is, Mark Stein.

Speaker 6 (15:21):
Yes, it will be soon. It will be soon. Just
quick emergency d tour. We'll be back soon. Don't worry.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
Look the extra Thank you then for even joining us today.
You could have told Shay no, but thanks Mark.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Thanks.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
Let's dive into Game three between the Timberwolves and the Thunder,
a total blowout. And so my thing that I was
telling Carry is I'm having a hard time gauging this
game for Minnesota because it was a blowout win from
wire to wire.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
They weren't tested.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
So moving forward, I felt like Okac was unbothered by
the blowout and Minnesota.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Won, but they didn't. They didn't win in a hard game.

Speaker 6 (15:59):
Oh see, here's the real problem here. And look, you
guys might not agree with me, and I know I'm
kind of fighting an uphill battle on this one. But
I truly feel like this is the problem we we
not not necessarily we specifically us, but the basketball public

(16:19):
general is trying to NFL nflie the NBA analysis. We
cannot make a judgment after every single game after the
first two games. We probably in the NFL regular season either,
but look, that's a seventeen game season, so every single week,

(16:42):
firm judgments are made about teams, and it happens too
much in the NBA. And basically the Thunder went up
to Zip and everybody wanted to say that that the
Wolves were finished and had no chance. Now, obviously coming
back from two zero was not easy. Beating okay, okaysee
four times in five games is not going to be easy.
But I think the issue more is that the rules

(17:04):
were just written off way too much after the first
two games.

Speaker 4 (17:09):
Mark, that's I mean, that's exactly. I mean, you just
said exactly what I said in the beginning in the opening,
But I mean that that that. I mean, obviously game
three they were going to win, they needed that game,
and they're won the best team, so I didn't expect
anything else. But the game four is going to be pivotal, obviously,
and do you think that Minnesota has a chance to
use the same tactics that they did in this game

(17:31):
to prevail or will okay, see in their adjustments be
too much game for them in game.

Speaker 6 (17:36):
Four, Look, they certainly think Slash hope they found something. Basically,
they eased the all out swarms of STA and they
were able to do better with everybody else. Also, they
kept SGA off the free throw line, and if SGA
is not going to the free throw line, that's going
to make a big difference. Yep, Okay, see, we know

(17:59):
they're going to rea. You know they're going to react well.
But this is kind of the fun part of this is,
you know, if you want to buy into NBA math
and history, the Thunder are doomed. They lost the playoff
game by forty points. No team has ever won the
championship after losing a playoff game by more than forty

(18:19):
So if you believe in that kind of history, the
Thunder are in some real trouble. And obviously I'm being
facetious here. I mean, the way they played, they are
still the favorite, but that was that wasn't just a
bad loss. That was a humbling loss. And look, but
again I want to stress the thunder have been the

(18:41):
best team in these playoffs, and as resounding of a
win as that was, the Wolves still have to beat
these guys three times in four games. Not an easy assignment.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
Not an easy assignment also going to be for the
New York Knicks later today in their Game three against
the Pacers. Speaking about his Street, we know it's not
good for teams starting oh in too, especially losing at home.
The Knicks making an adjustment today with their starting lineup,
no Josh Hart in the start starting lineup, It's gonna
be Mitchell Robinson.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Can the Knicks still make a series out of this?

Speaker 1 (19:18):
I mean.

Speaker 6 (19:20):
It's a psychological question at this point, And like you know,
losing Game one in the passion they did was absolutely devastating.
But you know you can, you can in can rally
from one really bad night, especially when it's the first
game of the series. But I don't think anybody envisioned

(19:43):
scenario where the Knicks lose to in a row at home.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 6 (19:47):
Is mount the climb? I mean I have I have
seen it. You know it's happened. Not it has happened
in the conference finals. I mean I vividly remembered Dallas are.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
We may be losing you a little bit there, Mark.

Speaker 6 (20:04):
Route after they went to Houston and stole a couple.
But it's yeah, the what changes is obvious. I just
I don't know can they can they mentally bump back
from the situation they're in. I don't know that anybody.
Only they know that answer.

Speaker 4 (20:23):
Mark. I want to talk about that game as well.
I mean, obviously, Mitchell Robinson has been great. He's been
I mean, outside of Jalen Brunson, I think he's been
their most important player, getting them extra possessions and blocking
shots and defending at a high level. I just I
questioned the strategy of bringing him in and playing with
the two bigs in this particular series, just because of

(20:45):
the way Indiana plays. They play so they play so
up and down in so fast paced. Do you think
this is a good strategy by bringing them in? Do
you value the multiple possessions or do you value Indiana? Gohead,
go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 6 (20:59):
Mark, Sorry, my connection I think is not cooperating as
well as it should be.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
Unfortunately.

Speaker 6 (21:05):
I think it's one of those things where the Knicks
feel like they have to try something, and they have
to try something drastic. Tom Thibodeau loves Josh Hart. I
don't think he wants to remove him from the starting lineup.
The situation they're in has forced his hand. But you
know what, and I think we've talked about this before,
the Pacers are just They're the most underrated team in

(21:25):
the league and they just continue, they continue to show
us fixed straight road winds in the playoffs. They're just
they they are very deep, and they get contributions from
a lot of guys, and I mean, like it's hard
not it is hard not to pencil them into the
finals already, it's hard.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
Now Should Tyrese Halliburn's dad be allowed to come back,
yeah and watch his son?

Speaker 6 (21:53):
Yeah, I think a lifetime ban, you know, is a
bit much. Yeah, you know, and there's been no I mean,
I don't know that there's been like a set timescale
or whatever. But yes, I would say that, like he
definitely deserves and it was I mean, thinking about that

(22:14):
game is still crazy, just even when you guys bring
it up, it is still crazy to think about what
happened in that Milwaukee. But you would like to say
that he's now is it going to happen in this
postseason or doesn't have to wait until next season, you know, I,
you know, I really don't know what the latest is.

Speaker 5 (22:29):
That's that.

Speaker 6 (22:30):
But I do think at some point we are going
to see him back at his son's games. I do,
I do think that'll happen.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
Yeah, it's time a last one from me here, Mark.
And it's the All NBA teams that were announced. Nicola
Jokic obviously, and there's some ones that are obvious, and
it's all the first team, but when it comes to
the second and third team.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
I was really surprised.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
To not see Aviza Zubots in any of the All
NBA teams because he I felt like, for example, Draymond
Green Camp paid him, campaid himself to be in the
topic of NBA Defensive Player of the Year, and it
happened towards the end of the season.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
He just started saying, No, I should be there, I
should be there.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
In fact, Avitza Zubats was performing the entire year for
the Clippers and could not get any recognition.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
He did get some, but not in the All NBA.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
Is it a bit of a popularity contest?

Speaker 6 (23:22):
No, it's actually what you know, I haven't been an
official voter since twenty seventeen. But I can just tell
you from experience, all NBA is the toughest and it's
only getting tougher because the statistical lines that players put
up in the modern NBA are often spectacular, and the
reality is there even with the sixty five game role.

(23:46):
The sixty five game role has made it a bit
easier because some they ruled out not they don't have
enough games, and that does make it slightly easier, but
there is never a year where they're you don't have
twenty five players who deserve those fifteen spots, and it
is it is never easy. And look, you bring up Zubach,

(24:06):
a player that I love, to be honest with you,
but it was campaigning for Zubach, certainly not with the
volume that Man Green can campaign for him. So I
wasn't hugely surprised that.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
Mark, I think we're losing you overseas here, so we're
gonna let you go. If you can hear me, I
think Shay is gonna talk in He's If I was overseas,
I would have been like, you guys are on your own.

Speaker 4 (24:42):
Oh yeah, Mark, you're too kind.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
Mark Stein, our NBA insider, still here with us even
though he's not here.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
We appreciate you.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
Mark.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
We'll talk to you soon.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
You can follow Mark Stein though on ex Twitter at
the Stein line. All I heard him say is I
love of Eatsa Zubas heard, and that's all I heard,
and that's.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
All that matters.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
And I just I still I'm like, I can't believe
Carrie that he was not in thirteen All NBA because
the entire season he was part of the big Clippers success.
James Harden third NBA All Team. Yes, I agree, he
also should have been there as well. And it's like, really,
Karl Anthony Towns was more effective than Ofvitsa Zubats in

(25:24):
the regular season, and I don't know if that's true. O.

Speaker 4 (25:27):
I think he was, you think he was.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
But it's close, but it's close, but it's close.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
All right, all right, fine, fine, Carrie, h.

Speaker 4 (25:34):
I know you love I know you love Zoobox and
I do. I actually do as well. I mean I
think he I mean every year he's gotten better. I
mean even from the start when he was with the Lakers,
you could see you have potential. So yeah, it's just
it sucks. Those leagues, those teams are hard. It's only
fifteen players out the whole league if you think about it,
So when you look at it that way, yeah, it's

(25:55):
it's it's probably it's gonna be hard for him to
get there.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
Do you agree that Draymond Green absolutely talked himself into
being a finalist for Defensive Player of the Year. Yes
and no, because it happened towards the when Jimmy Butler
came around, and I think that was a big part
of how he even got better. Yeah, but I feel
like he literally was just telling everybody on TNT on

(26:19):
his podcast, guys, I should be Defensive Player of the Year.
I should be in the conversation, and then he was,
and I was like, what a politician we have here
in the NBA.

Speaker 4 (26:29):
That's all they are now. I mean again, people are
self campaigning all the time about everything on every level,
on every social media platform. So NBA players are not exempt.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
As we see so as we see, well, listen, I
am checking out this Oiler Stars game and it looks
like Edmonton is trying to.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Pull away here.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
Let's check in out with our technical producer slash anchor
Chris Praphat Chris.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
What's going on?

Speaker 4 (26:56):
Well, that is one side of hockey.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
We have some actually very patriotic news to say. But first, yes,
the Edmonton Oilers are all over the Dallas Stars in
Game three of the Western Conference Finals in the Stanley
Cup playoffs for to one. Your current score there as
we've got about what's that up there?

Speaker 4 (27:15):
My eyesight's not very good, you know, I was.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Looking at yeah, halfway halfway through the third period. So
the ten minutes to go, about eleven minutes to go here,
and Dallas is going to really need some gumption if
they're going to come back in this. Edmonton would take
a two to one series lead if this result holds now.
I mentioned some other hockey news. We're gonna get to
Indy car in a second. But first, this just happening,

(27:37):
not long ago. Team USA, for the first time in
ninety two years, has won the World Hockey Championship. Also
going on to the same time, Yes, overtime against Switzerland's
scoreless Tag Thompson the winning goal. So Team USA gets
some hardware today. Elsewhere on the ice are.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
These Chris do you know? Sorry not to put you
on the spot.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
Are the like NHL players? Were they NHL players? They're
not as good as NHL players.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
Do you know any of that?

Speaker 1 (28:06):
I know, you know what. I will go do some research.
I think some of them are. It's just a matter off.
They're not involved in the Stanley Cup playoffs. That probably
takes away from that, or like who knows. I'll go
and I'll go and double check. I know hockey fans
out there are hating this right now. To anyone talking
hockey if you're not one accurate on this stuff. But

(28:28):
I mean way, I'm scrambling right now. My usual state
is panic and anxiety, so please give me this. Alex
Poalow is the first Spaniard to win the Indy five hundred.
He's won three Indy car titles in four years, but
a win at Indy at the Indianapolis had always eluded him.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
So we can check that one off the box.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
Earlier in baseball, Tiger's pitcher Tarik skubl through a complete game, shutout,
thirteen strikeouts on ninety six pitches. Last hitch on the
radar gun. That ninety six pitch came in at one
hundred and three miles an hour. His velocity did not
drop off at all. Yankees and Rockies in a rain
delay top of the fifth, four to two.

Speaker 4 (29:14):
Bottom of the six.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Phillies and Athletics are tied three three Padres right now
down to the Braves three one at the top of
the sixth inning as we get ready for tonight's game
between the Dodgers and Mets. Also coming up at six
pm Eastern w NBA Sky's Sparks aces Storm and Ben
Griffin with a three stroke lead at the Charles Schwab

(29:36):
Challenge in Fort Worth. Final groups on the course right now,
coming in home, Monsey and Kerrie.

Speaker 4 (29:42):
Back to you. So wait, Manue, he's telling me that
the Spaniard won the Indieianapolis. It just takes me back
to like Talladegon Knights and jeans.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
If you ain't first your last baby, does it make
a lot of sense you come in second, right, even fourth?

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Yeah? Thanks Chris.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio on this Sunday Memorial
Day weekend, Carrie Roads on Moncey Bolanos, and we're going
to dive into the flag football that is going to
be happening here at the Olympics in twenty twenty eight.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Man all right, so you're getting ready, you're getting ready, Carrie,
Hold on a second, where'd you do it.

Speaker 4 (30:26):
We don't know.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Got Okay, here's the thing we've got.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
Everyone is trying to put their dream team together, and
everyone's first options when it comes to quarterback that I've heard,
for the most part, has been pretty obvious answers Lamar
Jackson and Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
Here's the thing. This is gonna happen in three years.

Speaker 4 (30:45):
I know. And I just took off my shoes. Now,
in three years at you.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Change your mind? You like, never mind. If this is
in three months, I'd be.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
Ready, you'd be ready. But in three years, So that's
a big part of the discussion. Three years from now,
CBS Sports did create their dream roster and put ten
fellas together, all from the NFL, and the starting quarterback
was Jaden Daniels, and I thought that made perfect sense.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
I mean, the other two Lamar Jackson is the obvious answer.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
Yeah, but three years from now, yes, is with the
Ravens even let him?

Speaker 4 (31:23):
Yeah, I don't think he would be interested either.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
And I don't know if he would be interested either.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
But there is this whole NFL players have never really
been able to represent their country in the Olympics, I know,
So that adds to it, right, Like It's like, even
if you don't want to do, you do it because
it's a rare opportunity, has.

Speaker 4 (31:42):
A gold medal, a gold country. I know, I get it.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Now you're ready, Now you're back in it.

Speaker 4 (31:47):
No, I'm not. No, those three years are that counsels
me out. But I mean, yes, I would think you
would want to be a part of something like that
where it's almost like a once in a lifetime thing.
So yes, I could see interest in these guys, like
I mean, Jayden Daniels. He makes more sense to me
here than Lamar.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
Jackson or Patrick Mahomes, right, anybody else?

Speaker 2 (32:10):
I agree?

Speaker 4 (32:10):
Yeah, for that reason alone. Yeah, I can see that.
I'll be good. I'm good with that one.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
You're good with him, okay. And they have for running backs,
they put Jamior Gibbs.

Speaker 4 (32:19):
He's the obvious option as well.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
And Devon a chan.

Speaker 4 (32:24):
Achan is a good option too. He's so fast obviously, Uh,
he could play receiver as well, so he could be
one of those guys that can be a flex guy,
maybe even playing mad defensive back. So he makes sense
as well.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
But in three years from now, what about Ashton Genty? No, No,
we're not putting him in there.

Speaker 4 (32:39):
No, just the quick twitch, fast, explosive devon a chan
Is that is that? Gents? We don't know yet, We
don't know.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
We would have to see, all right, Okay, then they
put down Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, and Travis Hunter.

Speaker 4 (32:58):
Yes, Travis Hunter is choice because we.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
Both absolutely no and obvious from three years from now,
like Kim and Jayden Daniels are the ones that I like,
I'm not changing.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Yeah, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (33:08):
Yeah, I mean right now you say two, which one?

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Ravias Hunter and Jayden Daniels are the ones I am
not changing.

Speaker 4 (33:15):
Jayden Daniels, Jamier Gibbs and Travis Hana are the ones
I wouldn't change. So okay, okay, but out of those two,
I mean the two receivers. Obviously, they're the best receivers,
the best receivers, so that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
You put them there, obviously and go ahead.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
Sorry, the fact that they're also I didn't know, you know,
Jamar Chase was right now twenty five and Justin Jefferson
right now twenty five.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
They're gonna be twenty eight, so.

Speaker 4 (33:38):
So young, so they will still it'll be fine. Yeah,
they are gonna be fine.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
Those they actually could do it. They could do it,
Will they want to?

Speaker 4 (33:46):
Yeah? I don't know. I mean, both of those guys
make a whole lot of money, so I don't even
know if their teams would allow it. Obviously they the
NFL said it's okay. Now, that still doesn't mean that
these organizations are gonna allow their greatest and biggest investments
go out then and run around the flag football. It's
it is dangerous. It is dangerous even though it's no contact.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
It's inous because obviously running in a high level performance
anything can happen. Yes, We've literally seen injuries happen where
you're like, he just took a step, how did this
go down? Yes, so there obviously is always risk.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
But again a gold.

Speaker 4 (34:23):
Medal, yes, but also also risk with no real backups either.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
It's only ten ten players, ten players. I think there's
more we can dive into this, So let's finish this.
On the other side, don't go anywhere. He's carry on, Moncey,
and you're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3 (34:50):
What's up everybody? Happy Sunday, Memorial Day weekend. Hope you're
having fun being safe out there. I'm Moncey Belanas alongside
former All Pro safd Carry Roads hanging out with you,
and we're talking about flag football now that the NFL
has approved it for players to participate in the twenty
twenty eight Olympics happening in LA and whether teams are

(35:12):
gonna let their players.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Actually play in three years. What is the dream team
out there? Per se?

Speaker 3 (35:19):
But the other side of it is, Carrie, there's actual
flag football players out there that exists, that are great,
that are great that this is their job. Yes, and
we're automatically assuming we're sending NFL players.

Speaker 4 (35:34):
Yeah. And the crazy part about it all is even
if this was the dream, the wishless, right, and this
was what America wanted and we think this is the
best that we can offer from the NFL. Again, what
you just said, This doesn't mean these are the best
ten players for the Olympic team. And I think people
would laugh at that just from the notion of their

(35:56):
pros and they're not. No, these guys who play flag
football appropriate, they exactly and they know the game, and
the game is different, and if you go into that
just thinking you're going to dominate, you will not. There
was an instance I think I've told you before off Era,
maybe on air, but when the Flag Football League kicked off,
maybe four or five years ago. I can't remember exactly

(36:19):
how long it was, maybe even longer me I mean myself,
O Chosenko, Michael Vick, all these NFL guys. We played
in this inaugural game, and we played fine, it was great,
but the guys who were actually have been playing this
game put us on notice.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
I can only imagine, yes, what we do, right, this
is what we do.

Speaker 4 (36:41):
Yeah, So it's hard to just say that. They would
have to go through a process of learning what the
rules are and what to do.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
CBS Sports has a story where they're speaking to flag
football stars and one of them is the quarterback Darryl
who do you catch?

Speaker 2 (36:59):
Is that how he says his name?

Speaker 3 (37:00):
I'm not entirely sure, but he led the US national
team to four global championships, and obviously he's like, we
just want an opportunity for our guys, like we deserve
an opportunity, and also goes on and this is a
perfect example, he went on to compare tackle football and
flag football to tennis and table tennis, like that's a

(37:22):
good example.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
It's they're similar.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
Ball would another good example of it, where it's like
they're very similar, but they're not the same thing. And
everything anyone has been talking about has been NFL players
going to represent the US, and it's like, I don't
know how they're gonna decide because there's obviously a lot
of questions that go into it.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
If you are the owner of the Ravens, you're harball,
you're the coach, do you let Lamar Jackson go?

Speaker 3 (37:52):
And he's just an example because he's the first name
that comes to mind. Everybody wants to put him at
the quarterback position. But it's like, are you gonna let
Justin Jefferson go play? Are you really gonna let them
do that? And then does the player say, yes, I'm
going because it's the only opportunity for me to.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
Win a gold medal.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
And then do you go and try out against actual
flag football stars.

Speaker 4 (38:12):
And you may be humbled, and you may be humbled
telling yeah, I'm telling you it is a different game.
I've seen it up close and personal. And again, if
I was an owner and I've paid a lot of
money to Lamar Jackson. I don't know if I want
you to do that. But again it's where he is
in his career and were talking about three years later
Lamar will be what, uh, I think he'll probably be

(38:34):
like twenty nine, And it's not like he's that far
off the No, Yeah, because he's a young guy, and
he had say if he's already won a championship, let's
say maybe that's.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
Different and that's that would be the edge right there.

Speaker 4 (38:46):
Maybe maybe maybe go out and do you think yeah,
and even as Lamar like, if I've won a championship,
maybe I'll go try that because that's the next thing
on the mantle, absolutely bit that hasn't been done yet.
Don't think I would risk it myself.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
I agree with you, especially in try out alone.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
In tryouts, you have to give it your all against
these professional flag football players.

Speaker 4 (39:04):
They're coming after you.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
So even like going to try out and maybe just
tweaking an ankle, like you don't.

Speaker 4 (39:10):
Want to do that.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
Practice practice, practice, This is a lot more. It's a lot,
it's a lot more gray than it is black and white.
When you're thinking about flag football and the upcoming twenty
twenty eight Olympics, and who you want out there.

Speaker 4 (39:24):
They're just trying to get cheap gold medals, that's all.
There's another those.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
NFL guys, but this is our only opportunity to do.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
I don't blame them if they push to want to
be there, and I don't blame the owners say no,
we can't let you do that. And I don't blame
these flag football players wanting to be there exactly, Carrie,
it's a lot a lot.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
Don't go anywhere.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
We're still here for another two hours, that's right. What's
up everybody? Happy Sunday, Happy Memorial weekend. I hope you're
being safe, enjoying yourself, maybe with a little barbecue, some.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
Drinks, a little bit of everything.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
But safety is the number one thing, right, Be safe
out there because there's a lot of idiots out there.
As we've Discussie, I'm manzy, he's carried. Thanks for tuning
in to hour two of Monty and carry on this
Fox Sports Sunday. The first hour we really dove into
the ass kicking that was the timber Wolves in Game three,

(40:15):
and now we just saw another ass kicking, but this
time it was on the ice carry as the Oilers
just crushed the Stars. Six to one was the final
score there, and they were scoreless in the first period
and the second period they scored. The Oilers scored within
thirty six seconds of each other. Yeah, And I feel
like when that happens, it is just like a good
like you're like, how did you score so fast?

Speaker 4 (40:36):
I know, the flood gates start to open.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
Like you pulled a thread exactly.

Speaker 4 (40:43):
Like oh oh, it's still good, keeps coming out like
oh wait, wait, wait, wait up, it's still it's.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
Still yes, Like literally, I feel like that's what happened.
But that series was tied out one apiece going into
Game three. So now just Edmonton takes a two to
one series lead. And we'll dive more into the NBA
in a little bit, but let's talk a little college football, Carrie,
which I know you love.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
The seating changed for this upcoming season.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
You know it's basically not going to reflect the playoff
seating will now reflect pretty much with the College Football
Playoff Selection Committee thinks is the order of the teams, right, Like,
it doesn't matter no longer if you win your conference, right.
I have mixed feelings about this, so I want to
get your thoughts on it, because obviously this came from

(41:28):
the imbalance, right that we saw in the first two
rounds of the College Playoff with this new expansion. Again
new expansion, the first time you're seeing twelve teams. All right,
I know, Boise State rocked by Penn Stay, we saw that,
but Arizona goes on because really it's Arizona State and
Boise State that are making this conversation happen, right, because

(41:49):
they got the buy and then they go in and
then Boise State literally gets rocked by Penn State. Arizona
State went on to double overtime with Texas that was
a really fun game, and then Texas goes on to
getrus Ohio State.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
So is this really going to be more.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
Competition or is this just to benefit the bigger conferences? Again,
it's one year carried a small sample size.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
Why are we already making this change?

Speaker 4 (42:17):
Yeah, I don't know if we should be making the
change this quickly as well. I agree with you on
that when you think about twelve teams in college football,
there's realistically, in one year, it'll be like four teams
that can realistic that's really the truth. Yeah, I mean,
the expansion coming to play anyway was all about money, yes,

(42:39):
and so now we're trying to better our product because
of the money. Right, if people are seeing that this
is all about money, maybe they won't tune in those
first two weeks. They'll just come when the four's there.
So they're trying to get this competitive edge thing going,
and there's just really no way for that. I don't
believe whatever the twelve teams are going to be, if

(43:00):
one of those teams won their division, they should have
to buy, Like that's part of kind of what's happening
in the NFL as well, right, So I think that
should stay the same now as far as reseating those like,
you know, eight to twelve, so you go one through
eight and those last four teams receiving them. Maybe possibly,
but I don't think there's a real logical way to

(43:20):
make this thing more competitively competitively balanced.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
Right, And also, we know it's going to be more
than twelve teams. You know they're going to make it
fourteen sixteen. So this whole idea that this receding is
going to make it more competitive, I'm just having a
hard time believing that.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
And then what I really.

Speaker 3 (43:39):
Don't like is that this is diminishing the significance of
conference title games. Like, if it doesn't matter for you
to win your conference, then why am I going to
go out there and play like and risk injury and
risk anything, like, if it doesn't matter if I win
this or not, I'm just in the playoffs anyway, Right,
what are we doing?

Speaker 4 (43:57):
Yeah, some of those teams will possibly do that.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
Absolutely, they're gonna do that's question about it.

Speaker 4 (44:04):
Yeah, especially if they have nothing to.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
Get gain at that point, and so far we've seen that. No,
you should win your conference so that you gain something.
But if you're telling me it's not gonna matter, how
is this going to make it more competitive? It doesn't
seem like it is. Like you said, realistically, four maybe
five teams that are really going to have an opportunity
to win every year, and then we like I said,

(44:27):
it's not gonna be twelve, it's gonna be fourteen, maybe sixteen, Carrie.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
Into three years. Yeah, this change seems early. It seems
like premature, Like we don't need to do this right now.

Speaker 4 (44:39):
Yeah, we don't know. It's not enough of a sample
size to know that anything needs to be done at
this point. Obviously, but again, they're just trying to show
their consumer. We're doing everything we can to make this
thing competitive and something that you'll appreciate and enjoy. And
that's really all it is. It's not gonna change anything.
I'm telling you that now, but it's showing people, the

(45:02):
people that love the brand of college football. Man, we're
trying our best to make this thing competitive.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
So I was gonna say, the consumer, do you mean
like Alabama fans?

Speaker 4 (45:10):
Maybe?

Speaker 2 (45:10):
Like, because this is who this is benefiting. It's the
bigger conference, is the bigger schools. That's what this is for. Yes,
nobody else.

Speaker 4 (45:17):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
And the competition still might not be there, no.

Speaker 4 (45:20):
No, no, no, Alabama wasn't good enough to be in
there last year. No no, they shouldn't have been there,
but they were.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
But the consumer, they're a big part of the consumer
that very times. Yeah, but I'm so, I just it
seems a little bit premature to do this.

Speaker 4 (45:38):
It's very premature.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
And I am not a fan.

Speaker 4 (45:42):
You're not a fan. I'm not a fan. The consumer
is not a fan. Shay is not a fan. A fan,
and Mary's not a fan. I think we're all think
we're all on board without them even saying anything, but
I don't.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
Think So here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
You know, there were fans of it, That's why it
happened so fast. It just seems again really really annoying.
But let's moved to the NFL not doing this. The
Lions withdrew their proposal, and in the NFL it made
a little bit more sense.

Speaker 4 (46:08):
The NFL it made sense.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
Okay, yeah, I agree. I was just yeah, it made
more sense. And yet they withdrew it.

Speaker 4 (46:19):
They must have got pressure from pressure from somebody, because
the Lions, of all people, of all people, yeah, should
have kept their being in for them to have the
season they had and to not even be able to
the host the game that first round or whatever I mean,
after the first round, it just doesn't make any sense.
I mean, teams that are seven and nine making the

(46:40):
playoffs should not be hosting playoff games after that first one.

Speaker 3 (46:44):
After the first one, right, It's like and I feel
like that's that that's where you should change it.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
Like if you win your division, yes.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
You get it, good job you want because we don't
want to take that away again talking about college football playoffs,
you're diminishing the conference title game.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
So in the NFL. You win your.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
Division, yes, yes, moving on after that first round, we
should recede.

Speaker 4 (47:03):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
Absolutely. I've never understood why the NFL doesn't do that.

Speaker 4 (47:07):
I don't know either, And I think the fact that
it's even being raised now that question, you can tell
that it's seeping through and people are starting to have
the same thoughts we're having right absolutely, like why is
this seven and nine team hosting the fifteen and one
Chiefs whatever?

Speaker 3 (47:21):
Yes, absolutely, and it seems like that would really benefit obviously,
like the home crowd is going to be sad, but like,
if you're a football fan, that makes sense to you, Like,
this isn't playing favorites, this is playing the game. And
it's like, no, they have the better record now they
deserve it, and you won your division, you got your
home game, so it's not like you don't get it.
This seems like it's a no brainer. It is, and

(47:44):
I cannot believe that.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
They withdrew it, and I wonder exactly why.

Speaker 4 (47:47):
That's something that's underneath the surface.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
We don't know about absolutely, but I'm hoping that in
a little bit when we're going to talk.

Speaker 4 (47:54):
To Adam Kaplan, he may have some inside he.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
May have some insight into that, because for college football
makes no sense. For the NFL, it makes almost too
much sense, especially with the example of the Lions last
year and what we saw, which I know it's not
it was a normal seeing that situation that happened with
that division and then all of them deserving a BA
or deserving a home game.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
I know that doesn't happen.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
But this to me, like the college football playoff seating,
it's like favoritism for the bigger conferences.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
Right with the NFL, I don't see it as favoritism.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
I just see it as like, no, this is how
it should be because they actually played a better season one.

Speaker 4 (48:30):
Hundred percent, and we have and we and we do
have enough about sample size in the NFL to know
that that should happen, and.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
We've seen in the NFL. Yeah, you can argue, oh,
these maybe these are the teams that are going to win,
But in the NFL there's always teams that are unexpectedly good.

Speaker 4 (48:47):
Oh yeah, and so it's it's.

Speaker 3 (48:48):
Not the same and it's not the same, and I
guess I'm just like, I can't believe this happened here
and it didn't happen over here.

Speaker 4 (48:55):
Yeah. No, in the NFL. Yes, you're right. If a
team makes the playoffs in the NFL, well they can
win it all.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
They can.

Speaker 4 (49:02):
No, No, No, this isn't college. There's there's there are
levels too to what that looks like. The NFL.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
Nah, you're in there. There's a chance, yes, yes, because
you know it's weak to week.

Speaker 4 (49:14):
It's one game, and it's one game, and.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
It's one game, and if you have a bad game
all of a.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
Sudden, as the Ravens asked the Ravens in the last
couple of years, the last couple of years. No, we're
going to dive into this with Adam Kaplan on the
other side, So don't go anywhere. He's carry I'm Moncey
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on my I have it in my car. I also
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Speaker 2 (50:37):
Did you have a MySpace?

Speaker 3 (50:39):
No, you did not have my Space, so you had
no toxic friendships because in my Space you had to
like select your favorite friends, and like people would move
it so it would show was it six Mary eight?

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Five?

Speaker 4 (50:54):
I think it was five. I like vaguely remember.

Speaker 5 (50:56):
THEYDI like that little bit too.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
So you would go to someone's page and it would
be like my my top friends, but you selected the
order of your friends from one through five, and so
when you were mad at a friend, you would.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
You wouldn't move them down.

Speaker 3 (51:14):
So Betty, so Petty and Tom. Tom was everyone's friend
for the longest time, like the number one Tom is
the guy who created my space, and so like he
for a while was just your number one friend. And
then eventually you could remove them and then everybody removed.

Speaker 4 (51:31):
How narcissistic is that he had to be the number
one everybody's space.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
But the fact that you know, you've removed your real
friends from my space.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
Oh, Adam Kaplan with us our NFL insider, Adam, did
you have a MySpace?

Speaker 5 (51:47):
You know? It's funny. I never did that.

Speaker 8 (51:49):
I've done just about everything, yeah, with social media, and
so I never did it.

Speaker 5 (51:52):
I thought about it. I just didn't see the point
of it.

Speaker 4 (51:57):
Yeah, but your friends, is that right?

Speaker 5 (52:03):
That's what it was. I had no idea.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
Actually it led to that, Well.

Speaker 8 (52:07):
Musicians were, they were big on that. A lot of
young artists had MySpace pages.

Speaker 3 (52:12):
Yes, that's what it turned into after, but it was
like the first social media page. And then yes, you
you would put your friends in order of who you
liked most.

Speaker 5 (52:19):
Wow, is that right? I never I barely did it.

Speaker 8 (52:23):
Facebook was probably the first one that I got on,
and then most of my friends got off of it.

Speaker 5 (52:27):
It's just kind of, yeah, trying to figure it out
the social or sometimes I call it anti social.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
Media, That's exactly it.

Speaker 3 (52:34):
Adam, we were talking about college football playoff how they
changed their seating, but the NFL, the Lions withdrew their
proposal to change the seating in the playoffs, and Carrie
and I are very confused because in the NFL it
makes obvious sense to kind of recede after the first round.

(52:55):
Not in college football playoff when it's the first time
that they've tried a twelve team playoff format. Why did
the Lions withdraw that proposal? Do you have any insight
on them?

Speaker 8 (53:04):
Yeah, they didn't have support. They didn't have total support,
They had some not enough. Here's the thing, So it
really comes down for this and the Lions know this,
and the Vikings went through this one year when they
were fourteen to three and had the fifth seed. So
if you win the division, the league just feels like
you really have to have a playoff game the first round.

(53:28):
But the problem that some clubs have is that and
I just mentioned in the Minnesota. If you're fourteen and
three and their team you're playing is seven and ten
and that seven to ten team is hosting a game,
there's just something wrong with that. And that's sort of
the Lions argument. They have some support, there's no question

(53:48):
about it. They just don't have enough. And the problem
is if like now, see here's the other problem is,
if you're eleven and six and you win the division,
you want to you really want to have you want
to make sure you have a home game if the
second round, if it comes to that. But basically the

(54:09):
way it's doing it, you're just basically you're basically.

Speaker 5 (54:12):
Going to receive them.

Speaker 8 (54:13):
It's it's just the order of the record going through it.
So there's good it's a it's a good argument. That's
that's one that's going to be hotly debated.

Speaker 5 (54:23):
Again. They definitely have some support.

Speaker 8 (54:24):
For this, whereas with the Eagles push play, that one
was bizarre to me, and they came real close. And
I was doing TV the other day and I believe
this could actually happen. So a coach, I'm pretty friendly
with you and I were texting Thursday or excuse me,
Wednesday when when this was done and it didn't pass,
and he goes, Listen, he goes, I'm telling you more

(54:46):
teams are going to do it. They've kind of even
teams that don't like the Eagles and have issues with it,
they also want to win. And the Eagles over the
last three seasons were over eighty seven percent of on
that play either fourth or third in less than two
yards the Eagles.

Speaker 5 (55:03):
That's incredible, Sorry about that, Adam.

Speaker 4 (55:05):
The Eagles are the only team that will actually do
that play on multiple downs as well, which is yeh Bill.

Speaker 8 (55:10):
By the way, Kerrie, do you know what's insane about
what the Bills did? The Bills are funny, they're great
at it. They're really good at not quite as good
as Eagles. But they voted against it, and they've never
come up the SEAU much. Turmmer first said they were
worried about the safety. Well, Trey Vincent, who's the vice
president of operations for the the NFL, said that there's
no it's on a safety issue and mcdermoer was never

(55:34):
really clear Kerry. So just to throw it back to you,
I mean it's more a little competitive jealousy, to be
honest with you, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (55:40):
I agree. I actually agree with that. Let's talk about
not having enough uh and not being really good at
something that they think they are. Let's talk about these
NFL players. They're they're going to walk on a flag
football field and dominate, Like I want to talk about that.

Speaker 5 (55:57):
Oh yeah, I know flag very well.

Speaker 8 (55:59):
Actually work for the American Flag FOOTBLL League for three
or to play a pall so and I got to
know Michael Vick a little bit.

Speaker 5 (56:05):
Yeah, go ahead and feel free, go over whatever drugs
you want to go.

Speaker 4 (56:08):
Yeah, I mean they're talking about the Olympic roster, right,
the proposed twenty twenty eight Olympics roster. It's only going
to be ten ten players, It's what we've heard so far.
And so obviously there are some really good, great players
that are already entrenched in that league and probably feel
they deserve to be one of those ones on that roster.

(56:28):
But now you have all these NFL guys who are
obviously pros and really good at what they do, thinking
they can just go out go out on the flag
football field and be as good without the same amount
of time. What do you think about that? And what
do you think about you know, the sport moving forward?
The Olympic sport.

Speaker 7 (56:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (56:44):
Well, for flag it's flag future in our country, soccer.

Speaker 8 (56:47):
For youth it's yeh offsite baseball, soccer and flag football.

Speaker 5 (56:51):
I played flag football through high school.

Speaker 6 (56:53):
Wow.

Speaker 8 (56:54):
Yeah, I didn't know much about it until I got involved.
Then agent called me said, hey, Abot hop of the
Voice of the Giants is not going to do it
this season. You're interested.

Speaker 5 (57:02):
I'm like, I haven't done play by place at high school.

Speaker 8 (57:05):
So what I did was I just would watch him
and then I would turn the sound down and call plays. Now,
this is when Tyrell Owens was in it the first year,
and the thing is, Kurry, this is about where you're
going here. Former NFL players don't quite understand the nuance
of I'm just being honest that I called this. I
called the league for three years and hopefully i'll be

(57:26):
involved with them again. And particularly the defensive players. They
didn't understand how to pull a flag because you can't tackle.
There's no in fact, there's no contact at all. And
we would actually in that league if if you push
show on hard, they would allow very minimal contact. If
you pushed, really pushed, you're gonna get flagged.

Speaker 5 (57:45):
But yeah, I think that's the thing.

Speaker 8 (57:47):
And the best team in the world is a fighting
cancer team with with Daryl Dust who looks like teach
Hushman Zadees New Game's hush he's the quarterback and he's
had he's been very outspoken on it. You just can't
tear it's where you're going here. You can't just show
I think you can do it.

Speaker 5 (58:01):
It's not easy, man.

Speaker 8 (58:03):
And there's a thing called the dip when you try
to avoid the flagpole and you and you dip your
it's sort of like you're doing the hol You dip
your shoulders and you dip your knees and go under
the flag Like that's that's not easy, man. You've got
to be incredibly flexible. So yeah, I'm telling you that.
And by the way, those games were incredible. In fact,
we had one call that got on Sports Center internationally.

Speaker 5 (58:24):
It's really big. We had a player from Mexico come
in and the YouTube views for a huge show. This
along here. It's a pretty big deal.

Speaker 8 (58:32):
If folks are willing to give it a try and
get into it, you cannot believe the athleticism. Now, the
league that I'm in is seven on seven, which carry
as you know, that's more like an Ota practice. It's
a throwing exhibition, and the Analympics are gonna be five
on five, which is a little bit a little bit
more out wide.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
Open here, all right, I told you last week at him.
Don't worry. We'll ask you about Aaron Rodgers next week.
Here we are at it.

Speaker 3 (58:55):
Sure, Aaron Rodgers kind of insinuating hint, team whatever you
want to use.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
Yeah, that he may be on a team that is going.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
To be playing in Chicago. Steelers do play in Chicago.
The latest with that also rumors that the Steelers.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
Have their eye on Kirk Cousins. How's that going to work?

Speaker 5 (59:15):
That's true?

Speaker 8 (59:16):
I mean no, no, no, no, it would only be no,
it's oh, they need a fallback option if Rogers suddenly changes.
They still feel very confident that they're going to get Rogers.
But if he decides ultimately that he's not going to play,
then yes, Kirk Cousins is really the onlier option that
they're not. They know they can't go in to the
season at a bare minimum of not having competition for

(59:37):
Mason Rudolph. Mason Rodoff was a very good story two
years ago, but he's he didn't start the whole season.

Speaker 5 (59:41):
Let's let's be real here. They know that, they're aware
of it.

Speaker 8 (59:45):
They made the trade for George Pickett, excuse me for Metcalf,
traded Pickens one.

Speaker 5 (59:52):
They want to help Metcalf out here.

Speaker 8 (59:53):
They know that he by the way, he signed his extension,
so they need better quarterback play and that that's a
that's a big deal mon see as I sent him
back to you who they know they have to be
better at the position. Boy, Russell Wilson got off to
a really good start and completely fizzled down the stretch.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
I guess I'm just if I'm Mike Tomlin. How are
you not annoyed with how Aaron Rodgers has handled this
entire thing? How do you welcome him with open arms?

Speaker 8 (01:00:19):
Well, he's let they're aware that he's got a personal issue,
so and close to him is going through so I
don't know what it is. I'm not going to even guess,
but he said as much, and they're aware of it.
They've known about this, that he's going through something, and
they're willing away for him. And the Runny family is
kind of said, there's a point where we're knocking a wait,
But when they're not there yet.

Speaker 5 (01:00:39):
Obviously the point is that training camp.

Speaker 8 (01:00:41):
Now, you would love him to be there for the
mandatory camp, which is in about two weeks, so it
assuming he's not at that, then it's a question of
can they get him in for training camp. They can't
get him in for the start training camp. It's there's
just no reason to sign him. And then the other
thing is, by the way, before we move on, if
you're going to trade for Kirk Cousins, you're not going

(01:01:03):
to take on the cash. So they would have to
be worked out where the Falcons are going to take
a percentage of the cash. And they've clearly said they
have not. They've not told any team that would have
interesting Cousins what that willingness would be. And I give
the fuck it. I give the Falcons credit. They know
they can't keep Cousins on the roster. Yeah, guaranteeing over
forty million for two seasons, that's not going to happen.
But and I don't care what they say about being comfortable,

(01:01:25):
they're not playing games until September.

Speaker 5 (01:01:27):
Let's let's be real here.

Speaker 4 (01:01:28):
All right, Adam. I got two questions really quickly through.
But so the first one, I don't even know if
they's really a question, but I kind of want some
I think I want a little assistance here with where
I'm going with this. But we talk about how bad
that Deshaun Watson deal.

Speaker 5 (01:01:41):
Was for Worston NFL history.

Speaker 4 (01:01:43):
But right right, you've been on the record stentyer. Now,
I mean I think everybody, I'll take the heat.

Speaker 8 (01:01:49):
Look, let me say one thing on that, so that
owners meetings, so that that was what twenty twenty want
twenty two? Yeah, so whatever whatever year that was, he
one to twenty two. So I remember being the owner's
meetings and it's very rare that. Now obviously they were
telling me without being quoted, but I remember gathering information

(01:02:11):
on how clubs felt they were so disgusted with the
Browns giving a five year, fully guaranteed contract for guy
who had major allegations against him.

Speaker 5 (01:02:21):
I mean, I've not seen heat like that. They didn't.

Speaker 8 (01:02:23):
They were like, hey, by the way, bleep, bleep, bleep,
bleep bleep, And I was like, wow, okay, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:02:30):
I want to know the bleeps, Adam. But I say
that to say, yeah, if that's number one, where does
Kirk Cousins rank then?

Speaker 8 (01:02:38):
In this thing with Atlanta but I see Terry Fano
the GM, I don't know what the thinking was like, Okay, exactly,
you signed Kirk Cousins to two years, fully guaranteed, an
impartial guarantee, a guarantee, a guarantee, rsturans of ten million,
and third year. Right, Well, that basically, folks, by structure,
he's got to start two years.

Speaker 5 (01:02:59):
There's no debate about that.

Speaker 4 (01:03:00):
Yes, and he's not.

Speaker 5 (01:03:03):
He had to know Carrie well before. Yeah, he had
to know that you were going to go with a
first round quarterback.

Speaker 8 (01:03:10):
They knew who they liked. That was not good planning
and they've been very mediocre at our font No.

Speaker 5 (01:03:15):
To be honest with you.

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
All Right, well, Adam, I can't wait to see what
happens with Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers because it seems
like time. Yeah, it seems like they're running out of
time to make decisions.

Speaker 4 (01:03:27):
And uh, they're waiting on the guy that's not going
to put mobile hump anyway to make.

Speaker 5 (01:03:31):
About to carry. He's forty one and a half.

Speaker 8 (01:03:33):
And by the way, Tomlin really good head coaches and
won a playoff games at seventeen, right, Yeah, Adam.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
Thank you so much for joining us. On this Memorial weekend.
Go have some fun.

Speaker 3 (01:03:43):
I don't know if you have a barbecue, get a burger,
hot dog, a beer.

Speaker 4 (01:03:46):
Get you in my space?

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
Get my space?

Speaker 5 (01:03:49):
Is that, by the way, it's still around.

Speaker 4 (01:03:50):
I don't even know, actually know it is as married.

Speaker 8 (01:03:53):
You're kind of like, wait, which is around? More Blockbuster
or MySpace?

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:03:58):
My space? My space?

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
But that's a lovecaster. We'll talk to you next week.
Bye Blockbuster. I loved Blockbuster.

Speaker 4 (01:04:07):
Oh man, that was my spot.

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
You would just go like shopping for a movie.

Speaker 4 (01:04:11):
I think they're theoretically only one left, right right, there's
one left.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
There was also Hollywood Video. Is that the other one? Also? Great?
It was such a fun time.

Speaker 5 (01:04:21):
That was.

Speaker 4 (01:04:22):
That was when you were a kid. You you had
a little sleepover with your friends, and you a movie,
hit up the Blockbuster a game as well.

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
And a game also, and then the snacks on the
way out like child childhood. Maybe Chris Perfett has moved
over officially to the news desk.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
Chris, what's going on?

Speaker 7 (01:04:40):
Man?

Speaker 4 (01:04:40):
Those game discs were always scratched up.

Speaker 3 (01:04:42):
I can.

Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
You know what when that fell apart? It wasn't you
know VHS. It was just okay, be kind rewind' sure
you got to rewind it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:50):
Yeah, but when we got into the age of like discs,
people do not know how to take care of discs.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
DVDs from Blockbuster from Hollywood always scratched up. PlayStation gay
discs always scratched up. Ye never worked.

Speaker 4 (01:05:04):
And that's when.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
I had my own cleaning kit for it. But sometimes
they're like nails into the thing. It's like what with
kids written, and they were throwing it like in there
after they got to get it. I used to go
there all the time because at least mine would get
in some like international stuff now and then, so I
kind of like I was a nerd.

Speaker 4 (01:05:22):
I wanted like, you know, Japanese movies and stuff. So anyway,
let's move on. Let's talk.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
By the way, I got an answer from earlier about
the World the World Hockey Championship. Yes it is NHL
players because Tage Thompson does play for the Buffalo sat Okay,
so he had the game winning goal as Team USA
defeated Switzerland for the first time in ninety two years,
winning gold at the World Championships. Earlier though it's final

(01:05:48):
now Eilers defeating the Dallas Stars six to one complete
domination as Edmonton takes a six to one, I mean,
excuse me, a two to one series lead in that game.
We've got action in the WNBA as we wait for
the NBA to tip off tonight. Already, Angel Reese has
tripled her point total from her last game. She only
had two points twelve rebounds. Now she has right now

(01:06:11):
six points, two rebounds and two steals as the Chicago
sky are looking for their first win a narrow lead
three to one over the La Sparks, and now on
to baseball. Earlier in the day, Treik school through a
complete game, twelve strikeouts as the Guardian as the Tigers
blank the Guardians five zero, his last pitch on that

(01:06:34):
on that game coming out one hundred and three miles
per hour. Right now late for the Angels as the
Marlins have a three zero have a three run lead
three zero in that game, Giants defeat the Nationals three
to Houston with a walk off home run to defeat
the Mariners five to two, Orioles taking down the Red

(01:06:56):
Sox five one, and Padres in the middle of the
ninth thing last chance of the Braves coming up here
Padres with a five to three lead Monsey and carry
back to you.

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Thank you, Chris. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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What's up?

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
A legend is coming back?

Speaker 3 (01:07:17):
Not you in flag football, not no, you already said
you're not doing it. A legend is coming back into
our lives.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan, the Goat, the goat. I agree, Oh,
I agree, I agree. I I may have been young,
but I.

Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
Can never forget my brother's reactions watching Michael them kissing
the screen.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
Wow, whenever he did. Yeah, oh no, yeah, loved.

Speaker 3 (01:07:44):
Like the love for Michael in my in my house
growing up was was insane. And uh, you know, watching film,
you could go back and watch him now.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
It's just it's just crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:07:53):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
And see, so he's coming back as a NBC.

Speaker 3 (01:07:57):
He's gonna be part of NBC's for the for the
upcoming basketball season as a special contributor. And there's a
story out by the Chicago Tribune that he is coming
out because he kind of wants.

Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
To set the record straight that people are so pushing
that he is the goat.

Speaker 3 (01:08:17):
When he wants to come out and say, first of all,
like I haven't played. None of this is his quotes,
by the way, all of this is people that are
in his camp saying what he wants to do, and
that he kind of wants to come out and really
point out to people.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
Enjoy the game. The game has changed. The game is
not the way I used to play. Stop phixiating on
my you know, perfect record in the finals.

Speaker 3 (01:08:39):
Because he also says that I lost games too, and
people are forgetting that. And so he's saying that he
wants to come and like just make it fun again
and eliminate the toxic legacy of his own fans, and
the toxic legacy of his own fans is from this
Chicago Tribune article. Again, Michael didn't say this. This is

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his camp or the sources around him of what he's
going to come and try and do.

Speaker 4 (01:09:05):
And I don't know if I believe that, you don't
believe it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
I don't know if that's what he wants to come.

Speaker 4 (01:09:10):
And do you know what this When I heard this,
the first thing that I thought of was that's what
the goat would say. Yeah, Like that's what the goat
would say. Like the real goat of anything would not
have to have to speak up for themselves, right, and
so he would be talking about all these things that
this article says. So it does sound like a plant,

(01:09:32):
like people were leaking certain things to even enhance that
for him. And I think it's very smart. Yes, when
you talk about the rollout of him coming on, this
isn't about me and my legacy and my ego. This
is about trying to diffuse the situation and you know,
show people that no, I had my down moments and
all that. That's all fine and dandy.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
It's cool.

Speaker 4 (01:09:55):
But what I would want from this situation, what would
be for Michael to not even be a part of
the at all. You don't want him back. We don't
need to see your face and hear you talk about
any of this stuff, like the mystique around that time,
the mystique around his name and who he is. It's
so intact right now. I don't want to hear you

(01:10:15):
fumbling the around or backtracking or not allowing your greatness
to be great because you're trying to fit into the
society the way it is now. Just stay at home.
Just stay at home, have a cigar and a whiskey,
golf and watch the game. Or let us do the
talking for you. I think that's where his legacy obviously
obviously has grown the most. When people talk a lot,

(01:10:37):
it kind of diffuses that Lebron James, Yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
You make excellent points.

Speaker 3 (01:10:45):
Actually, And in this article, one of the quotes from
a long time associate who decided to be anonymous. With
this quote, Mike thinks the game has evolved, but his
fans haven't, and he sees that as a problem.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
Now, I don't think it's a problem. I also don't
think it's going to change.

Speaker 3 (01:11:03):
Like if you think Michael coming out here and telling
you how great it is to watch current NBA is
going to switch people's opinions of what they think of Michael,
I don't think that's going to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
You know, I am looking forward to I want to
know what exactly he's going to do, because we don't know.
I want is he going to analyze the game?

Speaker 3 (01:11:20):
We have not heard Michael analyze a game, you know,
I'm looking.

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
Forward to that.

Speaker 6 (01:11:27):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
Is there a chance that, like it doesn't go the
way I think or the way he thinks? Absolutely?

Speaker 4 (01:11:34):
It depends because what are your expectations?

Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
What are my expectations?

Speaker 6 (01:11:37):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
And they're high because it's Michaels. You better give me
the greatest analysis I have ever heard. But I believe
he can do that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:45):
And but I like what you said there is of
him being far away keeps him to be like this
this mythical.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
Yes, that's the perfect way, even though he's not mythical.

Speaker 3 (01:11:57):
We saw it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
You could go back and see it. Keeping him far away,
it does keep him at this like unicorn, uh perspective?

Speaker 7 (01:12:04):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
And if he comes in and then can that be ruined?
I hadn't even the thought of that, Carrie.

Speaker 4 (01:12:10):
I'm telling you, Carrie, you gotta you gotta go. You
gotta peel back the onion. You gotta peel back the onions.

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
Sometime I'm feeling about I have to think about this carry.
You may have just swayed me without trying to sway me,
because we're not even having a debate here. I was
just telling you how excited I am.

Speaker 3 (01:12:24):
But if you've got me thinking, I'm gonna think this
into the break, don't go anywhere. We still have more
here at Fox Sports Radio's and I'm moncey, don't go anywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
Okay, Who is this? Mary?

Speaker 3 (01:12:38):
Who?

Speaker 4 (01:12:39):
Jej One Juno?

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
That's what you said. Yeah, what's up? Everybody? Happy Sunday.

Speaker 3 (01:12:43):
I hope you're enjoying this Memorial Day weekend with whatever
you're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
And thanks for tuning in to hang out with us
for part of your Sunday.

Speaker 3 (01:12:50):
I'm Moncey Bolanos alongside former All Pro safety Carrie Roads.

Speaker 5 (01:12:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
This is a good one. It's getting us moving. Huh
huh Mountain, look at you. That's really good.

Speaker 5 (01:13:08):
Friend.

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
Apparently he is. All right, let's get into it.

Speaker 4 (01:13:12):
Whoa energy?

Speaker 3 (01:13:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
All right. If you've never tuned in to this segment,
carry on or off?

Speaker 3 (01:13:25):
I'm just gonna present Carrie with some situations that have
happened throughout the week maybe.

Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
And he's just gonna tell me whether he's on board
or not. Carry on or off? All right?

Speaker 3 (01:13:36):
As we know, shake Gil. Just Alexander won the MVP.
He was given the MVP Trophy.

Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
So as a thank you, he got all of his
teammates a Rolex carry on or off?

Speaker 4 (01:13:50):
I'm carrying on?

Speaker 6 (01:13:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:13:54):
You know what's crazy. As soon as you said Shay,
my face went.

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
Down because you weren't sure exactly where I was going
to win it.

Speaker 4 (01:13:59):
I feel like a was about to be in the
Dolgeums again, but then you throughout the rolex, then the gifts,
all of them. That's a huge deal and it is
something that should be done. And for him to have
that awareness, that love for his teammates, I'm one hundred
percent on that, man, because you don't win that award
without winning and so many people going to that. So yes,

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carry on that.

Speaker 3 (01:14:23):
And you know what's so funny literally is what he
said in his speech. He was like, I would not
be here without these guys. I would not be here
if we didn't win as many games as we did.
And so there is a really awesome video and it's
not three four of them. There was like eight arms
that I saw and they all have a rolex. So
when are you going to get us rolexes? Carry because

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there are MVP We got it.

Speaker 4 (01:14:45):
Oh, we got to win something first. If we win something, guys,
all right, it's going.

Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
It's going down. All right, you heard it here first. Okay,
we went out. We'll put that on record.

Speaker 3 (01:14:56):
Okay, carry on or off pain a lot of money
to wear a certain number.

Speaker 4 (01:15:04):
I'm on that. I'm I'm on it. And the only
reason I'm gonna say that because if I didn't say
carry on, I would be a hypocrite.

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
Did you pay for a number.

Speaker 4 (01:15:14):
When I got traded to Arizona?

Speaker 6 (01:15:15):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:15:16):
I paid for my number twenty five from Brian McFadden,
who was on the team already. And the crazy part
about that is it happens a lot. Yes, I did
pay for it because I was not giving away the
number that was so established at that point for me
at that time. But the crazy part about it, if
I would have just waited, maybe a few more weeks

(01:15:38):
until we got the training camp Brian McFadden actually got cut,
I would have got the number without happened to pay.
But yes, I am on when it comes to buy number.

Speaker 3 (01:15:51):
Ashton genty apparently paid Daniel Carlson over six figures.

Speaker 4 (01:15:55):
Ye, I didn't pay six. There was nowhere near that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
So bad business six figures to wear number two.

Speaker 4 (01:16:05):
He just got to the league. He just got Yeah,
that's that's insane.

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
I know, I know, But you're carrying on? Okay, all right,
all right?

Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
How would how about this carry athletes encouraging the ref
or the umpire to throw an opposing player out.

Speaker 4 (01:16:21):
I'm off that carry off, carry off, carry off. If
you can't handle your business, and you're trying to get
somebody thrown out of the game, and a competition. I
want the I want the toughest competition out there. I
don't care what's happening. I want that guy to be
there and beat him while he's on the court. I'm
not trying to get him thrown out the game.

Speaker 5 (01:16:41):
That's no.

Speaker 2 (01:16:42):
You should tell Francisco Lindor that sit down.

Speaker 3 (01:16:45):
So Walker Buehler, former Dodger now in Boston, was really
upset over a ball that was called a strike or
a pitch that was called the ball, and it was
a strike and walk Walker Buehler was like, that's right
down the bleep in middle right.

Speaker 2 (01:17:01):
And then they get they start arguing it's early in
the game, and Francisco Lindor.

Speaker 3 (01:17:06):
Is like throw him out, and it's like, Francisco, sits
your ass, dude, exactly why.

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
Are you trying to get this manage that you don't
want to you want to hit against him, Like what
are we doing?

Speaker 5 (01:17:17):
Man?

Speaker 4 (01:17:18):
That is a sign of weakness. And I know Francisco
Lindor isn't that, but but a sign of weakness.

Speaker 3 (01:17:24):
Francisco, we know you're not but at that moment, I
didn't like, and there's been there's a bit of history
between the Walker Buehler, so that's where it came from.

Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
But still, yeah, yeah, yeah, it wasn't a one off thing.

Speaker 3 (01:17:37):
There was like another incident, another game, all right, whatever,
last one here for me, Gary ESPN using push notifications
for a bad performance.

Speaker 4 (01:17:46):
I'll carry off of that. No, I'm off. We don't
want it's too much negativity in the world. Can we
get some some good story, some good news. I don't
want to know that my favorite player went zero for
four today, and I don't want to know when KP
is sick and we don't know what the sickness is,
but we say KP's got mono nucleosia, so whatever. Yeah,

(01:18:10):
I don't want to know about it that listen.

Speaker 5 (01:18:12):
I'm with you.

Speaker 3 (01:18:13):
But they were they were wrong when they sent out
Angel Reese's oh yeah from seven from four foot from
the basket to tie most misses from that distance in
w NBA.

Speaker 4 (01:18:23):
And they showed the play by playoff, but it was terrible.
I saw it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
I saw ESPN.

Speaker 5 (01:18:28):
You aren't rude.

Speaker 4 (01:18:29):
Petty Petty. That's the second time we used petty today exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:18:32):
And it's like either are you telling me that the
w NBA doesn't have a following, because the way you
sent that push notification, it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
It does seem like there's a following.

Speaker 4 (01:18:40):
You gotta be something.

Speaker 2 (01:18:41):
I'm with you. I don't want to know. I don't
need to know that. Yeah, I already know that my
players not playing well. Trust me, I already know exactly.
I don't need you to remind you.

Speaker 4 (01:18:49):
Don't, don't add to, don't have fiel to the fire.

Speaker 2 (01:18:51):
And like you said, there's already negativity out there. So
give me the good stuff. What is the good stuff
that can come out of this? Well? That was a
fun carry on or off. I want to know how
much you paid for that number, So I'm hoping you're
gonna tell me in this break right now.

Speaker 4 (01:19:02):
The air, see you.

Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
Guys, don't go anywhere. We still got more here on
this Fox Sports Sunday with Carrie and Monsey. What's up, everybody?
Welcome to our Nu metal dress. Do you know how
to count Spanish?

Speaker 6 (01:19:16):
Carry?

Speaker 4 (01:19:16):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:19:17):
Yeah to what can you count to?

Speaker 3 (01:19:18):
Ten?

Speaker 4 (01:19:19):
To infinity?

Speaker 3 (01:19:21):
Envy on.

Speaker 4 (01:19:22):
Thanks for tuning in.

Speaker 2 (01:19:23):
Happy Memorial weekend.

Speaker 3 (01:19:24):
I hope you're having fun staying safe out there and
joining a beverage or two with some barbecue.

Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
Do you like barbecue?

Speaker 3 (01:19:32):
I do.

Speaker 4 (01:19:32):
It's very hard to find in California though, in bbecue, yes,
because I'm a I'm a Southern Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
and we do we do that.

Speaker 5 (01:19:41):
You do do that, we do that.

Speaker 4 (01:19:42):
It's hard here.

Speaker 9 (01:19:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
I'm not a big barbecue fan.

Speaker 4 (01:19:47):
You're not.

Speaker 2 (01:19:47):
No, I don't need me as you know. But even
when I did, I felt like barbecue. Barbecue such a.

Speaker 3 (01:19:54):
Strong flavor that anything it comes with barbecue, all it
tastes is barbecue.

Speaker 4 (01:19:59):
You just not You just haven't had that.

Speaker 3 (01:20:01):
I just haven't had the right one, you know what
I'm saying. And like I maybe maybe that's what it is.
But yeah, every time I was like, I just stay's barbecue.
Like when I would have ribs, I just stays barbecue.
I don't taste anything else but barbecue.

Speaker 2 (01:20:12):
Yeah, So it's not good what I've had. You're just
telling me.

Speaker 4 (01:20:15):
I just wish you would hop back on the meat train.
Oh that's hop back on the barbie the barbecue train
one more time, and that sounds better, and and try
some real southern or like some Kansas city like I
see barbecue.

Speaker 3 (01:20:30):
So you're saying the recipe, Yes, it matters, it matters,
the recipe.

Speaker 4 (01:20:36):
Huh, yes it does.

Speaker 3 (01:20:37):
You know, I think the NBA's recipe for success is
right in front of us. And uh I I don't
I don't know if other teams just can't do it.
But the recipe for success is depth.

Speaker 5 (01:20:52):
Mmm.

Speaker 4 (01:20:53):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:20:54):
We are seeing two teams right now in the NBA
that are very successful and it's because they have depth.

Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
We've seen teams.

Speaker 3 (01:21:04):
Kind of get tired or gassed in the second let's
just say the third quarter. You know, third quarter matters
a lot. Warriors used to say that the third quarter
was a quarter that they wanted to come out and
crush you.

Speaker 2 (01:21:15):
Yep, and I they had depth.

Speaker 3 (01:21:18):
But the depth that we're seeing with the Pacers, the
depth that we are seeing with the Thunder, is a.

Speaker 2 (01:21:24):
Big part of their success.

Speaker 3 (01:21:27):
And that's something where other teams have done the exact opposite,
Like the Phoenix Suns. They said, let's put two and
a half superstars together. That's right, that's two and a
half superstars together. Not worry about our bench, but we've
got these guys.

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
We'll go far. Didn't even make the playoffs, all right, then?

Speaker 3 (01:21:50):
You think about the San Antonio Spurs, who were a
dynasty because of depth, because Manu Ginobili.

Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
Was like, yes, Greg Popovich, I will stay here and
play off the bench. I won't go be a starter
anywhere else.

Speaker 4 (01:22:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:22:06):
Literally, the recipe for success is right in front of
our eyes. And I do think it's gonna be probably
a PACER's OKC final because of their depth.

Speaker 4 (01:22:17):
Yeah, I mean can't argue that right now. It's definitely
the recipe for these two teams in particular, And obviously
when you watch both of them play, the depth is
a it's a design factor in most of the games,
just because of the pace they both play with. So
if you're gonna keep up with their pace, your players
have to keep up with that pace, and what does

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that entail. That entails fatigue And if you're not able
to go deep enough to match that, you're gonna be
at a disadvantage. And so you look at that. For
the most part, both of these teams are up in
the series in the Eastern and Western Conference finals, and
I think that is the Knicks that's been the next situation.
They don't play enough guys in Indiana. There's moments in

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both of those games where the Knicks looked like they
had control or we're going to be the team that
was going to pull this out. But as the game
goes on, it's a grind. The Pacers aren't stopping, They're
continuing to come, and they have all these guys that
they can throw in that mix to make this thing
keep going. And so it's been crazy, and I think
even in the Western right now, Minnesota's having to have

(01:23:25):
to go a little bit deeper having their bench, and
we see they have some capabilities there, but you have
to match that. You cannot play them with seven guys
and think you're gonna win a series against them.

Speaker 3 (01:23:35):
Yeah, Halftime does nothing for you, no, because you took
a little break, while the others feel just as energized
as they did starting because they don't use their starters
forty minutes a game like they keep them under thirty five.
I think Tyree's Halliburn when I last checked for the Pacers,
he plays the most minutes and it was like thirty

(01:23:55):
four like everybody else plays, and so they're fresh in
quarter three and in quarter four.

Speaker 2 (01:24:02):
It does not matter.

Speaker 4 (01:24:03):
And as soon as Halliburn comes out, you're bringing in TJ. McConnell,
who is a speed damon as well. So the pace
is never altered, never, there is no switch up and
that's the reason why and that's.

Speaker 2 (01:24:15):
Why they are so successful. The in game two, Pascal
Siakam kept the Pacers in the game. He was the
only one. Yes, New York should have been up by more.
I think it was three, right, something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:24:27):
You should have been up by twenty because the Pacers
could not make a basket. They could not, they were
not gelling. Pascal Siakam kept them in the game. Then
they come out the second half and it's like, oh yeah,
like we're all fine, We're still in it. But after
the game, Seacam said something that is another part of success.
He says, we don't care who scores.

Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
We just want to win.

Speaker 3 (01:24:49):
And that is a mentality that I think is hard
to maintain with players because then it goes into this
Carrie Pacers.

Speaker 2 (01:24:57):
Okay, see, we both think it's gonna be the finals.

Speaker 4 (01:25:01):
I'm not sure about the ok you're not sure?

Speaker 2 (01:25:05):
Okay, see yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (01:25:07):
Think Minnesota is going to have a chance, and I
think they.

Speaker 3 (01:25:10):
Have a chance as well. I think the safe bet
is okay, see Pacers based on.

Speaker 2 (01:25:14):
What we've seen. Right, it's not that I want that.

Speaker 3 (01:25:17):
I'm just saying that's what it looks like based on
their debt, based on the pace that they can maintain
for four quarters.

Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
So let's say the Pacers win this championship.

Speaker 3 (01:25:30):
Now you have to convince all of these guys to
run it back and just do the same thing again.
But it's like if Miles Turner gets approached by a
team and they're like, we're gonna throw all this money
at you and you can come be.

Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
A bigger star for us.

Speaker 3 (01:25:45):
Now, these players have to weigh what is more important
keeping this core together, this group of players to run
it back, or did I win and I'm good. Now
I can go make more money and go be a
star somewhere else, and that's what happens.

Speaker 4 (01:26:00):
Yeah, No, it depends on I think this conversation depends
on the player in particular. Right, what type of player
you are? What are your your core characteristics as a human?

Speaker 1 (01:26:13):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:26:13):
Do I want to maximize maximize my time, which means
maximizing my money. That's a part of it. That's a
real thing, and that's something that you have to consider,
because again, this is a short lived profession. You got
to squeeze out every dollar you can, and if you
don't think that way, you're being naive. But there's also

(01:26:34):
guys who when you talk about legacies and and what
that means to them, that means winning more than one championship,
that means winning multiple championship and stuff like that. Right, Like,
those guys are remembered. And so like the only person
on the Pacers team that I could see even having
that type of conversation would be, I guess a Pascal Siakam, Right.

Speaker 2 (01:26:55):
He's already won one in to run, He's already yeah,
And so.

Speaker 4 (01:26:58):
Like right now he's trying to see me himself as
somebody that's won multiple championships. You look at his career,
he has multiple All NBA selections, and people don't realize
this about him NBA All Stars as well, And so
for him, this could be him going to the Hall
of Fame and all these things down the line, Right,
So you just have to throw all these things in

(01:27:20):
the pot and see what sticks for certain individuals, like
I said, for them as human beings and their characteristics,
for them as a person. And I think that's how
you will kind of decipher this code. But it's a
hard one, Manci When you win, people look at winners
and they want to take away from them.

Speaker 3 (01:27:38):
I look at the Pacers roster and Pascal Siakam is
funny that you picked him with him I'm like, actually,
I feel like he's not going to go anywhere because
he already won it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:47):
If he wins again, He's like, I'm chilling exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:27:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:27:50):
But then you have other players like and you hit
it at the start of the series, maybe even before
Miles Turner. What Miles Turner has been doing. I am
sure there are teams already making calls right now. For sure, come,
we will give you more money and you will have
a bigger role. But the grass isn't always greener on
the other side. But that is the reason we haven't
had a repeat champion in the NBA, because you poach

(01:28:13):
these players that are the reason you were so good.
That the reason you want is because you had these
extra players, not just the superstars. You know, like, we
can't even look at Juan Soto. Juan Soto decides to
leave go across town for more money, and he looks sad.

Speaker 4 (01:28:30):
He lookess sad. Good for him from the Yankees.

Speaker 3 (01:28:35):
Man, but legit, he looks like he's not enjoying himself
and he left a team where he was not the
number one.

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
If you would to stay with the Yankees, all.

Speaker 3 (01:28:44):
The eyes were still on Aaron Judge. Yes, no matter what,
it was still gonna be on Aaron Judge. But he
was like, no, I want to go and be the
most paid, the biggest contract in the sports history in
a big market still New York. Yeah, but I don't
think he realized what he was doing.

Speaker 2 (01:28:59):
And he's already wanted youampionship, yes he has. And yet
he left a good thing. He left a good thing.
He was in a World Series and left.

Speaker 4 (01:29:07):
And he was gonna get close to the money he got. Now,
it just doesn't make anything.

Speaker 3 (01:29:11):
It doesn't make any sense. But the but these two teams,
okay see, let's look at okay See's roster.

Speaker 2 (01:29:19):
You think those guys are gonna stay together after this season?

Speaker 4 (01:29:21):
Absolutely not?

Speaker 2 (01:29:21):
Absolutely not.

Speaker 1 (01:29:22):
No.

Speaker 4 (01:29:22):
I mean maybe after this was because I don't know
what the contracts are. But it won't be long.

Speaker 2 (01:29:27):
But it won't It will not be long because they
everyone is keeping up.

Speaker 3 (01:29:31):
How can we make our teams better? Who is gonna
be my sixth man. Maybe I can pick them up
off of the Thunder roster.

Speaker 4 (01:29:37):
Oh easily, easily. I mean they legitimately they played ten
people and they all can play, and.

Speaker 2 (01:29:43):
They all can play.

Speaker 4 (01:29:44):
It's cozy, it's it's crazy. I mean, you got Aaron
Wiggins on that bench. He's probably the ninth guy. He
can start. I don't know if he can start, but
he can be a six.

Speaker 2 (01:29:52):
Man on elsewhere. Absolutely, you got.

Speaker 4 (01:29:55):
Caruso obviously who comes in who could start on teams.

Speaker 1 (01:29:58):
You have.

Speaker 4 (01:30:00):
Cason Wallace who is a promising young defensive player but
can score as well, can be on a starter on
someone's team. It's a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:30:09):
Also, you can take Jalen Williams to start to be
a start on your team. Yes, like he's a starter,
but it's like you somebody could offer him a bigger
role somewhere else because of what he's done.

Speaker 4 (01:30:20):
And Chet and Chet and Hartenstein, like there's too many,
there's too many. Who are you going to prioritize here?

Speaker 5 (01:30:26):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:30:26):
So it's like what, I don't know what okayc does
If they win, how you have to you have to
kind of sell it to this, to this roster.

Speaker 2 (01:30:35):
Don't go anywhere, stay here and let's be a dynasty
and let's run this back on.

Speaker 4 (01:30:41):
The run back. Yes, now, I think that is you're
hitting on a great point. They're like to think that
a pro only wants to win one would be kind
of naive, especially when you're in a situation that they're in.
They like each other. Yeah, it's almost like a aaa
you feel so, Yeah, you would feel that they would
run one to run it back if they wanted this year.

(01:31:02):
But even saying that, I think that would be the max.

Speaker 2 (01:31:04):
That would be the max.

Speaker 4 (01:31:05):
I don't think it past two years.

Speaker 3 (01:31:06):
We don't think because I do feel like Jalen Williams
has another successful year there, somebody's gonna be like, come
be our number one. You don't have to be number
two because you're number two and right, so it's like
somebody is going to offer him be our number one.

Speaker 4 (01:31:20):
And even when you said the number two, yeah, I
would beg to differ that. If Chet was healthy, Chet
would be number two.

Speaker 2 (01:31:28):
Absolutely a dynamic Yes, yeah, Chet in his first healthy year. Yes,
what's gonna happen? Like, who do you play for? You
have to it's a coach, right.

Speaker 3 (01:31:39):
Greg Popovich was the reason the Spurs stayed together as
long as they did.

Speaker 4 (01:31:44):
Good point, I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:31:45):
I mean, obviously everyone loves him Duncan. Everyone loves him Duncan.

Speaker 4 (01:31:49):
That's there's a question of fundamental exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:31:52):
But in reality it was it was Pop that everyone
was like, no, we'll stick around, We're gonna we're gonna
keep this team together, even though you know, oh they
probably got offers manage nobly absolutely was trying to be poached.
I would have tried to try to take him, you know,
for a Clipper, But who.

Speaker 2 (01:32:09):
Who do you play?

Speaker 3 (01:32:10):
It's like there's almost no everyone moves around players lecle Lebron,
everyone moves around, coaches go everywhere, Dirk Kobe, they are
rare players, and so like, I don't see this parody
going anywhere.

Speaker 4 (01:32:27):
Yeah, you made it, but you brought up another point.
You didn't say it yet, but you talked about with
this Pacer team with Rick Carlisle.

Speaker 2 (01:32:33):
I did say that to you an off pared.

Speaker 4 (01:32:35):
There's a so the same thing you're talking about with Pop.
I got to see Rick a lot in Dallas because
I was obviously a Maverick fan. But if he takes
this Pacers team and wins a championship. I think he
could have the same effect.

Speaker 2 (01:32:49):
That we have the same effect keep everyone at least.

Speaker 4 (01:32:52):
Yeah, Rick is such one. I mean it's one of those.
He is a hard, tough coach, like he coaches that
way in the same way with Pop he coaches you. Yes,
he also doesn't tell you what you want to hear.
He tells you what you need to hear. And I
think when you get a cachet to be able to
do that, guys respect it. And it's not about the
love part of it. First. It's the respect because if

(01:33:13):
I can respect you, then I can learn to love
you as well. And I think that's part of both
of those's coaches in particular. They're pool and keeping guys maybe.

Speaker 3 (01:33:21):
And I do think Rick Carlisle has a little bit
of that old school loyalty that I'm talking about, that
he can convince these players to stick around. But like
you said, it's individual to individual. If you win and
the guy feels like what are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (01:33:37):
I won, I'm good, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:33:38):
Let me go check something else out and it's like no,
but but you're gonna go, and then it's not gonna
be what you think it is.

Speaker 2 (01:33:45):
You're not it's hardly ever greener.

Speaker 4 (01:33:48):
On the other side, it's hardly ever, it's very hardly ever.

Speaker 3 (01:33:54):
You know, like why leave a good thing because you've
done it, because you've checked it all off, because more
money is being thrown at you and the way players
make money. Now you're fine, these players have money, you know,
like back in the day was a little bit different, right,
and so now it's like you people, but man, how
many teams?

Speaker 2 (01:34:12):
How many players have we seen leave just for money?

Speaker 4 (01:34:18):
Yeah? Yeah, besides one, a lot of people. But the
thing about also with with athletes and their egos and
certain you know, demands or non demands that they have
on a particular team. They do want a bigger a
bigger a bigger workload. Right, Sometimes it's to show their

(01:34:38):
full capabilities. And I do understand that after you win. Ye,
so even outside of the money, like wanting to show
I'm i can do more than I'm being than I'm
showing here. That's a that's the thing as well.

Speaker 3 (01:34:53):
One thing I also think about watching this these series
about depth, are the gets a lot closer than we thought?

Speaker 2 (01:35:04):
Taking Okay, see the seven games with not that much depth.

Speaker 4 (01:35:10):
I mean you're always close, You're always close when you
have an MVP player on your team.

Speaker 2 (01:35:13):
I think that's what it is more than anything.

Speaker 4 (01:35:16):
Yeah, yes, but they need a lot, they need a
lot more for their bench, and I also think they
do have players that can play on that bench. Again,
we talked about earlier. Those guys can play the one
game game six when uh, what's the guy from Gonzaga

(01:35:36):
who came off the bench barely played and hit like
what's his name? Went to Gonzaga barely played in the
playoffs the game. That's what I'm saying, Like, you have
to be able to develop these guys in your bench
as well, because they have people that can play.

Speaker 2 (01:35:56):
I mean, but you got to play them. You got
to play them, and that's the whole.

Speaker 3 (01:36:00):
Yeah. So the Pacers and okay see, are not just
throwing their bench out for the first time in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (01:36:05):
This is what the Pacers have been working on this
for the last two and a half years. Yes, this
is what the Pacers have been doing. This is the team.

Speaker 3 (01:36:11):
And they're like, no, we want you to feel comfortable
if I'm sending you in in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 2 (01:36:16):
At a tie game because Tyrese needs a break, like whatever.
They're not just testing them out. Now they have been
working towards this and it takes a second.

Speaker 4 (01:36:26):
And before the season, there was a video circulating I
think maybe yesterday of Pascal Siakam and the Pacers and
this is right before training came started. They were having
some runs together at Pascal's house I think in Florida
or something, and he's talking to all the guys like, no,
everybody in his everybody in this circle. Right now, you're

(01:36:47):
going to be asked to do something this season and
play this season, and we're going to develop this thing
right now. And they've been doing this, like you said,
for a couple of years now, and this is who
they are.

Speaker 2 (01:36:58):
This is who they are.

Speaker 3 (01:36:59):
And I was I was wrong about scoring by committee
being successful in the playoffs like this.

Speaker 2 (01:37:09):
I was absolutely wrong because they have all delivered.

Speaker 4 (01:37:13):
Not wrong yet, Manci. If they don't win a championship,
it doesn't matter, I.

Speaker 2 (01:37:16):
Guess it doesn't. But like, I know, I'm so wrong.
I'm surprised.

Speaker 3 (01:37:20):
I am surprised at how much success they have had
come back win after comeback win, ye like, and it's not. Yes,
Tyrese Halliburn had those two great shots, but then he
also was non existent in some games, right, and it's
like it's not.

Speaker 2 (01:37:34):
Just him, it is all of them.

Speaker 4 (01:37:36):
Yeah, it's been.

Speaker 2 (01:37:38):
Quite impressive to watch. But the Pacers will try to
take a commanding three zero lead later today against the Knicks.

Speaker 3 (01:37:47):
So on the other side of this, let's do a
little preview of that matchup and what we can't expect.

Speaker 2 (01:37:52):
Don't go anywhere. He's Carrie, I'm ANCEI and this is
Fox Sports Radio. OW Is that good?

Speaker 6 (01:37:59):
You like that? Ow?

Speaker 4 (01:38:00):
Ow? What's up everybody? Ow Ow?

Speaker 2 (01:38:06):
Yeah, but it's like owl like not you're not in pain?

Speaker 9 (01:38:10):
Owl?

Speaker 2 (01:38:11):
No, you're not in pain? Owl?

Speaker 3 (01:38:14):
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Speaker 2 (01:38:43):
Owl. Owl, I can't. Now I'm gonna be saying all day,
all day. This is gonna be my new catchphrase.

Speaker 4 (01:38:50):
Owl owl oh ow.

Speaker 2 (01:38:53):
I wonder if somebody's gonna be saying owl after today's game.
Nix and Pacers carry.

Speaker 4 (01:38:59):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:39:01):
You know, we talked about okay see where it's like, oh,
they're gonna They're done, Minnesota's done. We talk about they won,
they protected their home court, they said what they're supposed
to do.

Speaker 2 (01:39:10):
The Knicks did not do that.

Speaker 4 (01:39:12):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:39:13):
They did not protect home court and they lost in
some really rough ways.

Speaker 3 (01:39:17):
To lose, like it hits you in the gut, you know,
like I feel like, yes, okay, see got blown out.

Speaker 2 (01:39:24):
But as I told you, they were not affected by it.
They were They're like, yeah, we got our butts kicked. Cool.
Moving on the Knicks, It's like you lose in a
heartbreak fashion and it like stings and it stays with you.
Now you're down to zero, you're headed to Indiana. I
want to say that the Knicks are gonna come out

(01:39:46):
with force. I want to believe that. I just I
don't know if I'm deluluing myself. Am I delusional for thinking?

Speaker 3 (01:39:53):
Because again, it seems like a worst type of loss, like, oh,
this is hard to get passed.

Speaker 4 (01:39:58):
Yep. No, the way that the Knicks have lost is
different than what Minnesota I've went through. Yes, the Knicks
lost two games on their home floor. It different because,
like you lose two games on the away teams home court,
that team probably had the better record and the better
team all year and they did what they were supposed

(01:40:19):
to do. That's not the case in this one. Like
the Knicks had the better record, they should have won
at home and definitely should have won one at home.

Speaker 2 (01:40:26):
They should have won won the first one.

Speaker 4 (01:40:28):
Right, And that's what happens when you talk these games.
They don't carry over in theory, but when you lose
the way they lost in game one, the Knicks, there
was a little bit of a carryover. And then you
see the Knicks come out in game two and play
hard and bring the time out of his mind. Yes,
and then you still lose, and then you still lose.

(01:40:50):
They're they're in a tough situation, and I don't I
expect them to come out I expect. I actually expect
them to win this game. You expect I do, And
because they played better away from Madison Square Garden this year.

Speaker 2 (01:41:01):
You know, Yeah, Madison Square Garden is not what it
used to be.

Speaker 3 (01:41:06):
It's I think people at one point right feared it,
but now I think people embrace it. Yes, like you
want to go and play there because it's the it's
Madison Square. But it does not I don't think it
has the fear that it once had. But in game two,
now game one, they should have won Game two. I

(01:41:26):
don't know what Tibbs was doing not calling a timeout
in that last play that Jalen Brunson shot that three long.
It seemed like a like we could have executed a
better play there.

Speaker 4 (01:41:38):
I'm got me tell you why really quickly. I would
love to know why, because if he calls the time out,
that takes the game clock to around like seven seconds, sure,
and they're up, they're down three if they do that,
Rick Carlisle's going to tell whoever about exactly and that part,
that's the only part, so you.

Speaker 2 (01:41:57):
Know, we were't gonna talk about this.

Speaker 3 (01:42:00):
I feel like there needs to be a rule implemented
in the NBA that you cannot foul if it's within
a minute and your like final possession, like intentional foul
to stop a three point shot, like play defense, play defense,
or shoot the three point shooter, but just to just
to foul to make them shoot two. Yeah, there's got

(01:42:21):
to be I don't like that, and I maybe I'm
on one side and people are like, no, that's fair,
like you should not but I hate that, and that
makes sense.

Speaker 2 (01:42:31):
I hear what you're saying.

Speaker 3 (01:42:32):
And also just to speed it up, like keep them
on their toes. And maybe I wouldn't be saying this.

Speaker 2 (01:42:36):
It just seemed like such a bad shot. It was
just such a bad shot, and I was like.

Speaker 3 (01:42:39):
We couldn't have done something better here, And so I
you're you, and you're and you're probably right as to
why he didn't do it.

Speaker 2 (01:42:46):
And I would be saying something differently if the execution
was different that part. But it just seemed like this
was the way.

Speaker 3 (01:42:52):
This was your best your best shot. And Jilli Brenson
has been wonderful. He has been He literally has carried
that team on his back. Yes, and not that Carl
Anthony Towns hasn't done his share or Mitchell Robinson, that dude,
Mitchell Robinson, Listen, the fact that that man cannot hit
a free throw and it doesn't matter because of how

(01:43:12):
good he is on the offensive boards.

Speaker 2 (01:43:16):
Unreal.

Speaker 3 (01:43:17):
And he moves like for such a big dude, he
moves very quick and smooth, like he's not clunky, he's
you know what I'm saying, Like I'm amazed watching him rebound.

Speaker 4 (01:43:29):
It's crazy. He barely jumps on the rebound and he
can't jump, and he can jump, but he just his positioning,
fundamental fundamentals, his conditioning obviously, because to constantly go after
the rebounds you've played, yeah, that's not easy. And he's dominating.

Speaker 2 (01:43:50):
It's crazy, and dominating the entire time.

Speaker 3 (01:43:54):
It's it's been impressive, which is why the Knicks are
changing their starting lineup today. They are putting him in
the starting lineup and Josh Hart is gonna come off
the bench.

Speaker 2 (01:44:03):
But they're gonna need a little bit more than that.
Like I feel.

Speaker 3 (01:44:09):
Mark Stein, who was on the show earlier with us,
and if you've been listening the whole time, he was
overseas and we had some trouble with some connection issues,
but like he said, it's it's mental at this point
for the Knicks because of how tough those losses were.
It's mental to come out and feel like you have
hope down to zero, losing your both games at home.

(01:44:31):
How Tom Thibodeau has got to give the speech of.

Speaker 2 (01:44:35):
His life before going out for game three.

Speaker 4 (01:44:38):
Yeah, if they're waiting on that, I don't know if
that's going to but no, no, I don't know if
that's gonna happen. But I'll tell you this. They have
the ultimate leader and a guy that you can go
out and follow in Jalen Bronson. And he's proven it
all year. He's proven it in these playoffs on the road,

(01:45:00):
in hostile environments. In Detroit with the Pistons, that Piston series,
he was clutch, I mean, sending the Pistons home with
his shot, you know what I mean. So he's gonna
have the confidence. Who's going to follow? And will they
just will they have enough off their bench to at
least try to push the Pacers paces bench because the

(01:45:23):
Pacers are gonna win the bench points, but at least
keep it close. So that means McBride, pain who I
don't even know who else comes off that. They don't
play anything.

Speaker 2 (01:45:32):
They don't play anybody. Today's came hard.

Speaker 4 (01:45:36):
So those three and then for some reason, I don't
know why he doesn't play precious Achua. He can buy
them minutes. I don't understand, but he's got it. Somebody.
They're gonna need someone expected help.

Speaker 3 (01:45:46):
It's what we talked about in the last segment of
like they don't want to test the waters because they
didn't do it all season.

Speaker 2 (01:45:51):
I mean, like the idea that like I get it,
but you gotta try something.

Speaker 3 (01:45:57):
You've got to try something, like I know it seems
too late to do it now, but it's desperation at
this point.

Speaker 2 (01:46:03):
Yes, you've got to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:46:04):
And I if it's not Tom Thibodeau because Jalen Brunson
you just said he's he's I know he's gonna come out.
I know he will, but he doesn't seem like the
most vocal leader either. Yeah, you know, so like who
is You've got to inspire at this point.

Speaker 2 (01:46:19):
You've got to inspire because history statistics.

Speaker 3 (01:46:22):
Nobody is thinking the Knicks are gonna pull this out,
right nobody. Nobody's thinking the Knicks are gonna pull to
six games. No, not at this point, right, Like everyone's
like bring out the brooms already, And for this one,
it's like, yeah, because you lost at home and in tough,
tough ways, I need I need to know that. Like
Jalen Brunson, I don't think it's gonna be call Anthony Towns,
but somebody's got to say something to keep the hope alive.

Speaker 4 (01:46:46):
The crazy part, I'm trying to think, who would it be.
Josh Hart.

Speaker 2 (01:46:49):
Maybe Josh Hart. Maybe Josh Hart can do it.

Speaker 4 (01:46:52):
Seems like he has a voice, He's always talking. It's
like he would be the one. He would be the
one that would probably probably say something.

Speaker 3 (01:47:00):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:47:01):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:47:03):
I mean, we'll see. I think I, like I said,
I think the Knicks are going to win today. I
wouldn't be surprised if they pull it out and make
it up, make make this a pivotal game for a
situation in both In both series.

Speaker 3 (01:47:17):
We did see the Pacers lose Game three against the
Cavs get blown out.

Speaker 2 (01:47:22):
Yep, you know, so they we'll see how they come out.

Speaker 3 (01:47:26):
I I think I'm leaning towards the Knicks in this
Game three, but I'm picking them, and I'm I'm like
not happy because I'm just like how it's mental.

Speaker 2 (01:47:34):
Like again, you've got to.

Speaker 3 (01:47:36):
You've got to believe in yourselves because and not just
believe to win this game because who cares if you
just win this game and then go on to lose
the next two, what's the point of that. No, the
belief is like we are still in it. It is
not over, even though the first two games were really,
really rough.

Speaker 4 (01:47:54):
And it's gonna be crazy and then it's gonna be crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:47:56):
I was like, is it gonna do the choke sign again?

Speaker 4 (01:47:58):
And the what is it? The old houses? What it's called.

Speaker 3 (01:48:01):
I think it's called the Fieldhouse. Yeah, on the day
of the Indianapolis five hundred. No, everyone's gonna be vibing.

Speaker 4 (01:48:05):
They've already been drinking for a while drinking.

Speaker 2 (01:48:08):
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, Oh, it's good. The game tips off
in about twenty five minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:48:15):
We'll check in on what's going on around elsewhere in
sports with Christopher Fatt, who's.

Speaker 1 (01:48:21):
At the news desk Moncy. I just watched Pete Alonzo
crack a home run? Can the Mets have a two
one lead over the Dodgers? I don't know if were
we talking about this earlier about the Mets uniforms?

Speaker 6 (01:48:33):
No, was it?

Speaker 4 (01:48:34):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:48:35):
I was talking with someone else about the Mets uniforms.
Why do they look so much like Yankees uniforms?

Speaker 3 (01:48:40):
Well, obviously because they want to be I know mon
Soto said, make them look like the Yankees ones exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:48:47):
Okay, that's what I want.

Speaker 1 (01:48:49):
I think if you look I'm I'm a fan of
teams from a town that doesn't exactly have crosstown rivals.
I but I did go to USC and I don't
think I would ever sign off on blue jerseys the Trojans.
It's one of those things where it's like, if you don't,
there should be a line that's just not crossed anyway.
We'll get back to baseball in a second. Let's top

(01:49:09):
off the big things. First off, for the first time
in ninety two years, the US won their first World
Hockey Championship, defeating Switzerland in overtime one nothing. Afterwards, a
heartfelt moment as the USA players held up a jersey
for number thirteen. That number thirteen would be Johnny Gaudreau,
the late Johnny Hockey who passed away at an accident

(01:49:30):
back in March, so definitely he was close in their
hearts as Team USA for the first time in ninety
two years, claims that championship. Elsewhere on the ice, Oilers
defeat the Stars six to one. They take a two
to one series lead in the Western Finals for the
Stanley Cup Playoffs. We are close to tip off for
Knicks and Pacers for a must win Game three for

(01:49:52):
New York. In the WNBA, the Sparks are over the
Chicago s Ice Sky seventy six six, and earlier in baseball,
the Tarik schoobol through a complete game as the Tigers
defeat the Guardians five nothing. There's only one other baseball
game going on right now, Yankees and Rockies five to

(01:50:13):
three after a long weather delay bottom of the ninth inning,
Monsey and carry back to you, man.

Speaker 2 (01:50:18):
Those weather delays. Just call it those poor fans, those
poor fans. Chris, don't go anywhere.

Speaker 3 (01:50:24):
Why don't we start with a little easy as one, two, three, four,
that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:50:32):
I don't know how hard I make this, as I
say every time, but you've got Mary, you've got shit.
You've got Chris, We've.

Speaker 3 (01:50:38):
Got NBA, we've got Tennis, we've got baseball.

Speaker 2 (01:50:42):
We've got it all.

Speaker 4 (01:50:42):
Oh man, Yes, let's get it.

Speaker 2 (01:50:44):
Let's go six and a half. Let's see if you
get over six and a half, you can.

Speaker 3 (01:50:49):
Do it, all right, name one of the last two
American NBA MVPs one of the last to American NBA MVPs.

Speaker 4 (01:51:05):
Wow, I mean I guess uh wow, wow, wow. Okay,
wait a minute, would it be Lebron?

Speaker 3 (01:51:22):
Anybody's like nah, saying no, it's so far back.

Speaker 4 (01:51:26):
So it's been like the past seven I think I
got them. Oh, okay, so what you got? Do you
want to guess a little bit more? Tell me what
you got first?

Speaker 9 (01:51:36):
James Harden and Russell Westbrook. So one of those two
or both of those either one?

Speaker 2 (01:51:44):
Yeah, I just need one answer though.

Speaker 9 (01:51:46):
Oh, James Harden. Then James Harden over Russ. Yes, because
James Harden was later than Russ. Okay, I think it's
James Harden.

Speaker 2 (01:51:53):
Yeah, so James Harden, all right, show me James Harden.
That's right.

Speaker 4 (01:51:59):
Eighteen that's so long.

Speaker 2 (01:52:01):
I don't even know the right on the money twenty seventeenth.

Speaker 3 (01:52:04):
Russell's and the one before that, Steph Curry, Steph Curry
twenty sixteen.

Speaker 4 (01:52:11):
Wow, it's been that.

Speaker 6 (01:52:13):
Law.

Speaker 5 (01:52:14):
You know why I know that?

Speaker 4 (01:52:15):
Why why?

Speaker 9 (01:52:16):
I saw a stat the other day that said I
think the last like eight MVPs don't have any tattoos.

Speaker 2 (01:52:22):
Oh I think that's right too, really yeah, yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:52:24):
So I saw like Russell Westbrook and then James Harden
were on that list.

Speaker 4 (01:52:27):
You got to remember how many repeats are in there
onstitution with them, like four.

Speaker 2 (01:52:32):
But indeed, it's been it's been a minute. It's been
a minute. Don't go anywhere.

Speaker 3 (01:52:36):
We'll finish this on the other side, Fox Sports Radio,
Fox Sports Sunday.

Speaker 2 (01:52:40):
Thanks for tuning in.

Speaker 3 (01:52:41):
If you've been hanging out for the last three hours
with Carrie Rhodes and I, we appreciate it. We hope
you've had fun on this Sunday this Memorial Day weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:52:49):
But we're gonna get back.

Speaker 3 (01:52:50):
Into easy as one, two, three, four, see if Carrie
and the crew can get this going.

Speaker 2 (01:52:56):
You're you got the first one I asked.

Speaker 3 (01:52:58):
You say, got the first when I asked, named two
one of the last two American NBA MVPs, and you
hit it right on the head with James Harden in
twenty eighteen. All right, moving on here, name two of
the three men to have won at least one hundred
career singles titles in tennis. Two of the three you said,
two of the three that I have won at least

(01:53:21):
one hundred career singles title.

Speaker 4 (01:53:24):
We'll have to go Federer, Okay, and I would go, yo, kids,
what is his name?

Speaker 2 (01:53:36):
Novak Djokovic?

Speaker 4 (01:53:37):
Yes, no, no, back, I got it. I just got
him confused. Yeah, yeah, but no back.

Speaker 2 (01:53:44):
That's it.

Speaker 4 (01:53:44):
I don't need to Okay, I'll go with those two.

Speaker 2 (01:53:45):
All right, excellent, show me Novak Djokovic.

Speaker 3 (01:53:49):
He just did it this past weekend or like a
couple of days ago at the Geneva Open.

Speaker 2 (01:53:53):
So one hundred and Roger Federer, show me Roger Federer,
one hundred and three. I know, nicely done.

Speaker 3 (01:54:01):
The other guy, Jimmy Connors, Jimmy Connors, Yeah, with one
hundred and nine, one hundred and nine. Actually, all right,
moving on here, name three of the four NBA players
with the most assists in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (01:54:17):
Most assists in the playoffs right now?

Speaker 4 (01:54:20):
Well, I wonder if yo, these playoffs, these playoffs and Yokat,
you're still there. I know he was leading, but now
it's been a few more games later. I would have
to say, Halliburton, he's still.

Speaker 2 (01:54:33):
Playing, Okay, So Halliburton, Yeah, okay, I.

Speaker 4 (01:54:36):
Would say, I think Joker would probably still be there.
You want to put Joker just for now until I until.

Speaker 2 (01:54:43):
I yea yeah, brainstorm, brainstorm.

Speaker 4 (01:54:46):
Yoki taler Burton. I mean it's gotta be people that
are still playing. Now you got anything, Chris. I think
we're getting into territory where it might not what is
it the top four.

Speaker 3 (01:55:00):
Top four, three and four three yeah, assist makers right
now in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (01:55:07):
So it's got to be someone who's gone a couple
I'm gonna m I'm drawing to I want to say
Jalen Brunson, but I don't know if that's right.

Speaker 4 (01:55:17):
I mean you would think so he has the ball
in the Dames a lot, but he's more of a
score about like steph no, no, no playoffs.

Speaker 3 (01:55:26):
Yeah, so this run of the playoffs right now, I
could go home to run.

Speaker 4 (01:55:32):
The playoffs this year. Yes, he didn't play long enough.
I mean that's okay that you got to think of that.
I guess nobody's gonna help me on this one. I'm
gonna go yo, kids o Hall Burton, Okay, and I
would have to. I mean that's Bronson, I mean yeah,

(01:55:52):
I mean right now he's still playing.

Speaker 3 (01:55:54):
Yes, all right, show me Tyrese Haliburton. He is at
the top right now with one hundred and fifteen assist
thou the playoffs, nicely done. Show me Nicola Jokic, that's
one hundred and twelve despite not playing exactly in this
last round right now, And show me Jalen Brunson.

Speaker 2 (01:56:13):
Nicely done. Here we go one hundred and eight for
Jalen Brunson.

Speaker 4 (01:56:17):
It's like he has I mean, he does have the
ball up. Yes, oh yes.

Speaker 3 (01:56:19):
Then coming in at number four, shake Gilles Alexander with
number three, with ninety three ninety three three yes, all right,
last one here, give me four of the five lowest
payrolls in Major League Baseball.

Speaker 2 (01:56:30):
Lowest payrolls, four of the five, So we're going five.

Speaker 4 (01:56:33):
We'll go Pirates.

Speaker 6 (01:56:36):
Mmm.

Speaker 4 (01:56:38):
I'll probably say no, power is up there for sure, Pirates,
umof low.

Speaker 1 (01:56:47):
Okay, somebody, Chris, you got something because I gotta think
it's well, I say, hm, because I'm watch lose right now.

Speaker 4 (01:56:56):
Probably the Rockies going, and Athletics have to be there too. Athletics, yes, South,
I'll go A's yes, Pirates, A's fool. Rockies is Rockies
in the big market though, that's the only thing I've
learned about. They are awful. No, I know that we
know they're all about about how they play. We're talking

(01:57:16):
about small market teams here. I mean, White Sox are
usually penny pictures too, and all tame sock. How crazy
is that? All the out of pension pension pennies are interesting? Yeah? Okay,
so let's go pirates a's and we need one more, right, yes.

Speaker 2 (01:57:33):
One more Pirates a's. No, you need four so as.

Speaker 4 (01:57:38):
I guess it's Rockies and white socks. I mean that's
those what makes sense?

Speaker 3 (01:57:42):
Yeah, okay, all right, let's do this quickly. Show me
the Pirates. Yeah, I know pirates are not the lowest
out of the five. They're eighty seven point six million.
But yes, pirates. Show me the a's. Yeah, the A's
are at.

Speaker 2 (01:57:58):
Seventy three point one million.

Speaker 3 (01:58:00):
Show me the White Sox, Yeah, they are in at
eighty two point two million.

Speaker 2 (01:58:06):
And believe it or not, is it the Rockies?

Speaker 4 (01:58:09):
I told I got the big Rocky.

Speaker 2 (01:58:12):
They're like they are. They are low but not in
the five. But you yeah got those day You did it?

Speaker 6 (01:58:18):
You guys did it?

Speaker 3 (01:58:19):
Way to go team The other two the other one, no,
those are it's Marlins Marlin and Tampa Bay Rays.

Speaker 2 (01:58:26):
Those were the other two in the five.

Speaker 3 (01:58:27):
Marlin's are sixty seven point four and the Rays are
seventy nine point two.

Speaker 4 (01:58:33):
Right now.

Speaker 2 (01:58:33):
Yeah, but rockies, you naturally go there because they suck.
But you know who doesn't suck. We don't. We don't,
we don't suck. None of us here.

Speaker 3 (01:58:42):
Mary Shay, Chris Carrie and me wish you a safe
and happy rest of your Memorial Day weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:58:47):
Stay tuned.

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