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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Oh, good morning, Happy Sunday to you, and take down
the Knicks. Pacers win one, twenty five one eight in
game six. Pacers moving on to the NBA Finals, and
that's the whole season for the Knicks. It is over.
The dream is dead. It's the first NBA Finals appearance

(00:25):
for the Pacers in twenty five years. And we'll get
into the nuts and bolts of the game and look
forward and all that good stuff. But how you guys
doing today? Crack Jeff, Everything good in you guys world
over there.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
Yeah, you know, yesterday was a good day for watching
some ball. I mean, I wish my Organ Ducks would
have shown a little bit of a fight there in
the college baseball scene, which is I guess taking the
forefront now because no NBA till Thursday. I think, no
NHL till Wednesday. You know, as I woke up this

(00:58):
morning and started looking through social media, the uh you
start seeing the tributes to NBA on tn T, which
is now over. Last night was the final game, Yeah,
and they're going to ESPN and it's not gonna be
the same show. And I was thinking to myself, would
the NFL let that happen. I know it's a business
and you have to to take the money that you
get right, the highest offer, the best offer, but I

(01:20):
feel like the NFL would would not let this show die.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
Is it is.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
It is not what makes the NBA what it is,
but it's a huge part of the discussion about the NBA.
Those guys do such a good job of making it
fun and entertaining and bringing fans to the game.

Speaker 4 (01:41):
The Indiana Pacer fans last night.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
We're chanting TNT while they were doing the outro last night,
and for it to leave, I feel like it's an
unforced error by the NBA to not make sure this stayed,
carve out something right, but just some somehow keep it
where it's at and disappointed see it. It's not gonna

(02:03):
be the same thing at different network.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
Guys.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
Fantastic points and good morning guys, and good morning and
all our listeners, and you know it really is true,
and you know you said something there. It's nice to
watch and know you're gonna be entertained. You laugh, You
got all the boys there at the halftime and before
the pregame and post game. You're right. I never really
gave it much thought. It's actually fun, it's entertaining, and

(02:28):
that makes it relevant to you know, the public out
there and to see it go over to ESPN, who
you know, I know, you guys probably know my feeling
about ESPN. I kind of go after them a little
bit for letting go of my buddy Howie Schwab and
letting go of my buddy Teddy Atlas. It's just in general,

(02:48):
two totally different kind of networks. And I really enjoy
the boys there. I mean, who doesn't like Shack and
Barkley and you know you're gonna be entertained. It's just
it's just such a great feeling. So it's it's hard
to believe. Jeff, you're right, the NFL would never allow that.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
I don't think. I don't think the NFL would ever
let that happen. And the thing about that that show, too, Brian,
is like their fear, like they don't don't care, Like
they'll call out players like they called that cat after
after game, right, like they call out guys right to
their face. Because you have you have two Hall of
famers case with the Hall of Famer, you know, like
I know, Barkley and Okay, I don't think he was,

(03:29):
but two time champion right with the Rockets, so like obviously,
and then they bring on Draymond Green and then you
know Dwayne Wade every now and then is on the show.
Like you know, they they're bringing some of these new
voices and just it's a lot. It's very fun to
watch that show man. And again you're not you're not watching.
I think for in depth basketball analysis, there's other shows
for that. It's not one of those. It's for entertainment

(03:51):
and for enjoying the product and hearing guys say whatever
they want to say about the game. And I think
last night you'd say that. I think for the first
what twenty minutes that game was that the Knicks pace
Brian and then about four minutes of in the second quarter,
it turned to the PACER's pace and the Knicks just
can't play at a pace with Pacer scoring in the

(04:13):
one twenties.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah, well, that's the thing I'll say real fast about
inside the NBA on TNT, I could see the exact
same thing happening in the NFL. Because the show remains right,
the show is just going to be on a different network,
but it's going to remain a very similar product. So
could I see if there. That's the funny thing is
the NFL has nothing remotely close to as good as

(04:37):
inside the NBA. But let's just say they did, right,
Let's say they had the exact same thing, and they
wanted to like kick TNT to the curb, and they
wanted to get involved in streaming. They wanted an Amazon
Prime and you know, they wanted all that. I could
absolutely see them saying, you know, it's been real, been
fun TNT, but we're gonna get into this streaming thing.

(04:57):
We need to open up this revenue stream. We're gonna
keep inside the NFL. We're gonna keep that going. It's
just we're gonna be on another network. I could see
them doing the exact same thing. But that's the good
part of it is, uh, you know inside is going
to remain. And that's what Shack one of his rants
of like weed them boys, the whole rant where he

(05:17):
was like, spare the tears, We're not going anywhere we're around.
You know, we're still the Kings on the block. And
they were just dropping f bombs like Shack and can
they just don't care. They're gonna do whatever they want
to do. They've been fantastic. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
But that's the thing, man, is it's so entertaining. But
they do provide a lot of insight. That's the thing
that's overlooked is it's the all the funny stuff that
catches your attention the most where whether it's you know,
Barkley talking about the big old women in San Antonio
or an and they're gonna.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
Be good again soon and we're gonna have to hear
you know, Barkley Moore talk about the San Antonio women.
It's just a great he has going.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
That's so good man. It's but all that stuff catches
your attention more than anything, you know, But they do.
They provide a lot of insight, and I think they
get that's overlooked quite a bit. But as far as
the game goes, yeah, Jeff, you mentioned the pace, and
it certainly favored the Pacers in the second half, and
they just kind of ran the Knicks out of the building.

(06:19):
Some of the things that really mattered last night. You
got to give the Pacers, especially Andrew Nemhart, a lot
of credit. They did an excellent job defensively, especially against
Jalen Brunson. Brunton was so annoyed being defended the way
that he was and seeing bodies all night long, you know,
ninety four feet from the basket and all that. Brunton
was so frustrated. At one point he headbutted Nemhart. There's

(06:43):
no calls the minor headbutt, but still he was that
frustrated to do that. Halliburton played way better. Jeff was
way better in game six than game five, so he
was the ultimate zigzag guy the last three games. And
too many turnovers man, the Knicks, way too many costly turnovers,
fueling the Pacers in transition. The Pacers in transition points

(07:05):
outscored the Knicks forty one to ten. Now those aren't
just fast break points. Sometimes the Knicks scored and the
Pacers still got a transition bucket. That's just terrible defense.
Should never happen.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
The Pacers also scored thirty four points off eighteen Knicks turnovers,
so that part of those are going to be in
transition of course as well.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
Look, the physical part of that game was quite interesting
because they let them get away with a lot early.
It kind of cut up a little bit in the
second quarter, and then the game was officiating a little tighter,
But early in that game was very noticeable how physical
Indiana was with Brunson. They had just hands on him
all over the court until he got the ball off screens,

(07:48):
running around. And what I found interesting, I did not
fade Brunson. I think I had text you, Brian, I
had thought of fading him live, right, because we've seen
score fourteen points in the first quarter and then end up,
you know, with two points in the entire game, four
to fourth quarter, three points in Game five. But they
gave him an extended rest at the start of the
game that I thought was very curious. So most superstars

(08:11):
play the first twelve minutes of the first of the game, right,
the first quarter, maybe it's eleven minutes, you know, you
get that, you know there's a foul with forty five
seconds left in the first quarter, and you sit out right,
and then they come back at the sixth minute mark
of the second quarter. That's most superstars, right, That's sort
of the rotation they have in the playoffs. It might
be twelve minutes and you come back at eight minutes, right,
That's sort of what it's at Game five, Brunton took

(08:34):
off seven minutes he took off and in the first
quarter till five minutes left in the second quarter, So
you're like, oh, that's a little bit longer. Last night
he went out with three minutes in the first quarter.
I've noticed that, and it sat till seven minutes in
the In the he sat a full eight minutes, which
is a lot for Superstar.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Now.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
They could do that because they were keeping pace with
the Pacers. But I thought Brunton looked tired, which is
totally the way the minutes he plays, the amount of
stress on his body and the amount of of activity
he has to do for them to keep the game close.
I just thought the Pacers in this game showed their depth,
their youth, a little bit, their legs. You know, Cat

(09:12):
was a disaster for most of the game. I don't
he plays basketball. He's never played basketball before I watched him.
I'm like, have you played? Have you played before? I mean,
he had a foul where he just pushed yack him
in the back for no reason. You're like, that's a
dumb foul. Then when he hooked, he can't he was
driving to the lane and like and like writ move
like like he's a d ND. He came like through
writ move and then grabbed the arm of the defender

(09:36):
and like like I'm yet holding, Like that's not bad,
that's not basketball. So he was just all over the place,
and the players were better, you know, they just were
better cracks. So I all I had was Pacers first quarter,
which Brian got hooked, I got a I got a
better number, so I was able to to get a
push there on the one, and I just kind of

(09:56):
sat back and watched. I didn't know what was gonna happen.
I thought about taking the Knicks plus some points at
one at some point, but then the third quarter kind
of got scirreling and I stid away there.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yeah, at least the Nicks made the series, though, after
losing those first two games and falling behind two in
the end. The Pacers are just a better all around team.
And look look at the coach, Coach Carli and one
of the most underrated coaches in the NBA. He's done
a really great job with this team. Uh, they're they're deep,
they have so many ways they can beat you. Just
look at last night's they had seven guys score double figures.

(10:30):
That's amazing. They also play really good defense, which you know,
to be real blunt. Nobody really talks about that. They
actually play good defense too, so uh, you know, I
look forward to I'm hoping that the finals is not
gonna be what everybody says. I mean, I was around
yesterday casinos all day long. I had a lot of
guys from out of town come in for the World Series,

(10:51):
some big tournaments starting out, and they're talking about, oh,
this doesn't matter who when you know, Oklahoma City, this
is a joke. It doesn't. I'm hoping it's not a joke.
I'm hoping that we do get a series out of it,
and you know, the Pacers don't lose that momentum or
you know, steal a couple of games and maybe make it.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
I don't know about that, correct. I think I think
it will be competitive. The games will be mostly competitive.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
But I I just.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
How what's the path for India? They have to shoot
fifty three percent from three like they did last night.
I just don't I don't see. The matchups just feel
very difficult. You're gonna throw dort On halle Burn the
entire game, and then they're gonna put Williams on Siakam
and Indiana has no inside presence, turner and top and

(11:41):
play at the key, right, I mean play as you
meet the three point line. How are they gonna defend Chet?
I think Chet's gonna have a big series, Hardenstein, I
just don't know how they're gonna defend these guys. S
Jason get his thirty points and then you know, Halle
Burn has like two games of series where you're like,
what are we doing?

Speaker 4 (11:55):
Buddy?

Speaker 3 (11:56):
If you have those in this series, that's it. And
so I just think Okay is deeper. There's always a
moment in OKC games where if you know it's a
four point game, a three point game, all of a
sudden it's twelve and the game's over. If you can
wager on that situation happening at some point, always good. So, uh, Brian,
I think it's gonna be a struggle for the Pacers,

(12:16):
but I think we're gonna get competitive games cracked.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
I don't think we're gonna.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Have a lot of blowouts, but it's not gonna be
a series I think when we can talk about serious.
I already made a future bet on this series, so
and I use by the way, bet MGM, thank you.
I used I had bonus bets. I used one on
the Pacers to win the NBA Championship like two weeks ago,
and one on the Thunder, so I got plus. I'm
gonna make some money thanks for my bonus.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
It's like your your goal bets, you know, like your
goal line betsy, both teams.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Oh that dude. That has been the NHL playoffs. I
had a struggle in NHL for parts of of the season.
The playoffs though, what was it, Brian nineteen? The last
twenty one games have been decided by two Yeah, and
I've just been betting the puck line on both sides.
They're both plus money. And an empty net goal is
like I got Edmonton that night at plus three ninety

(13:08):
empty night, Gus.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
I can just picture you, like first fifty five minutes,
you're like all right, like casually paying attention, and now
it's all right, it's go tough.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
Pammy empty net goal. Yeah, Panthers, empty net goal. And
then they scored empty net going a weird way too.
They've got some weird They banked it off like they
had banked it off and it went fifty feet like
into the goal. It was awesome. So but yeah, I
mean there's many ways to wager on these games. I
have some serious thoughts on some of these numbers.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, we'll dive into the finals match up here in
a second, But just Cliff's notes version is you see
the difference in weight class right if you look at
the Pacers, I agree, Jeff. Their depth just wore down
the Nicks. It's obvious. Like you had TIBs, he was
forced to play some of these rotation guys that weren't

(13:53):
in the rotation, like the line right Lantry Shammitt. Shamitt
hit four four threes yesterday, you know, so normally those
guys weren't playing at all at the beginning of the series.
But the Pacers depth forced Tibbs to play some of
those guys at the end of the bench. And that's
the thing with the Thunder. We know how deep their
team is, so the Pacers have their work cutout for them.

(14:15):
There's no doubt about that.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
All Right.

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(15:32):
so we understand why the Thunder would be favored to
win the finals, but this big of a favorite. They
are massive favorite, very big.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Right.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
We're talking minus seven fifty. You'd have to risk seven
hundred and fifty dollars just to win one hundred dollars.
That's how huge of a favorite they are. Pacers are
plus five twenty five in that neighborhood, you know, five
to one. So this is the we've talked about before,
right where I think that's a little heavy. But you

(16:06):
could make the argument, Jeff, right, we've talked about this.
You could you get a little extra value on the Pacers.
It's that's fine, but you gotta see a legitimate path
toward them winning it all because you gotta be able
to cast your bet. I know you could play it
and get off it a little bit, but I just
even though I think that's a little too steep, I understand,
Okaye should be favored, but minus seven fifty is steep.

(16:30):
This is the biggest favorite to win the finals since
Golden State in twenty eighteen, and that year they swept
the Warriors to win it all. So I mean that's
a massive favorite. But I still don't see a legitimate
path toward the Pacers winning this. So I can't make
a Pacers to win it bet just.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
If you're desperately needing to get down on Thunder minus
seven hundred. If you put it with Scheffler to win
the US Open at plus three hundred, it's plus three
fifty seven.

Speaker 4 (16:58):
So you know there's waste. If you want to put like.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
The Mets in today at minus four hundred and the
Thunder together, you get about a minus two hundred. There,
crack cracks, like just ignoring me as I talk about
making future wagers, future parla wagers together. But if you're
so in need of that to happen, I got I
told you got that that bonus bet at like plus
one fifty. So I'm sticking with my Thunder there on
that wager. Look, I think the way to play this

(17:23):
is taking the series result, right. I have Thunder at
four to one at plus two hundred. It's a wager
I have made, and I like the Thunder and five
in this series. Or you take the Thunder four to
two plus money there too. I mean, you know you
bet both of them, you'll walk away with some money there.
I think the series goes like most NBA series go,

(17:47):
when a team is better. The Thunder win Game one,
I think convincingly. Game two is probably closer. Game three
the Pacers win, and then game fourth close at home.
In Game five, the Thunder come back to Okay see
and win like we saw last night, kind of pulling
way at the end. The Thunder have shown in in
a game of every series that they haven't shown up

(18:07):
now against the Grizzlies. They came back of that game, right, Brian,
had won that game. They got blown out against the
Nuggets in the game, and got blown out against the Wolves.
So they're gonna have a game where they're not They're
just not there. But I just don't see the advantages
for Indiana in this matchup unless Oklahoma City just doesn't
play well for three games, four games, Brian. They have

(18:29):
so many ways to get offense. Sja is putting up
a casual thirty every game. You look up and you're like, oh,
thirty points again. You add in Chat, who I think
is playing far better than I expected right now in
the postseason. He's getting giving you a fifteen to night.
He's you know, routine, Brian, uh Williams played better at
the end of that last series. If he can play
as well as he has, you know, you throw a

(18:50):
couple of threes from Dord and Cruso hit some some
some threes at home, and I think they're they're cooking,
and I just the Do you notice last night when
the were playing with the tempo, they wanted what they
were doing with Halliburn early in the game. They were
doubling him as soon as he crossed mid court, and
the Pacers had no answers like Howiburn starts slow again

(19:10):
that they couldn't score. And then as soon as Nick
started missing more shots and have some turnovers, the Pacers
got to play more up tempo push the ball, which
not allowed the Nicks accept their defense and say they're
gonna run a Hallieburn and say okay, okay, fine, like
someone else beat us please, And I think they're fine
with that with that strategy. So that's how I see
the series going. I took the plus two hundred there

(19:31):
thunder to win the series four to one, and that's
the way I'm playing it. Crack, and there's other things
you can do where you could take highest points scorer
and most rebounds, and there's some markets like that, but
I haven't tell you those yet.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
I mean, look at the different I'm just looking at MGM.
If you click on NBA, then you click on series,
but the different types of waste to bet, Like you said,
not just player props, not game props, the series betting.
I've clicked done that thing and I get a series price. No,
you got some really really amazing different ways to bet

(20:05):
this guy. I didn't even know series total games, total
games over four and a half minus three seventy five. Boy,
that's sound. You know it can't be for nothing, Canada.
I mean, that's that's why you're laying three seventy five.

Speaker 4 (20:18):
It can if the Thunder don't have that bad game,
I think, but.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
Thirty five.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
I also took exact I took the four to one series,
also took the exact outcome of the games Thunder Thunder Pacers.
Thunder Thunder was plus six twenty five. So I thought
that's a pretty good wager, right, I mean, I guess
it could go Thunder Thunder, Thunder, Pacers, Thunder. I might
bet on that one too. I just I don't see

(20:46):
this being more than a five game series. And if
I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I guess I could always play
Game five a certain way just to make sure I
don't amount out some money in this one.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
Yeah, like I could see I could see the Pacers
winning two games. I could see it, of course. Yeah,
but man, that Thunder defense is a lot to deal with.
They turn you over. They've had the best defense all
season long, and the individual defenders that they can just
throw at Halliburton and make life miserable for him, Like

(21:21):
what we saw what the Pacers did to Brunson last night.
Okay See, can absolutely do that to Halliburton. He's the
table setter for the other guys that could really mess
up Indiana's offense. So it's hard for me. Some people
don't even see the Pacers winning two games. I could
see a path toward them winning two games. You mentioned it.
You think of Game three the Western Conference Finals in

(21:43):
a series where eventually, in a closeout game, you had
okay See hold Minnesota to nine points in the first quarter,
like they had more turnovers than shots in the first
half Minnesota did in a series that was decided like
that Game three, somehow OKAC loses by forty two. They
just didn't show up. As SGA said, with the right

(22:05):
energy or focus, and it's like they are immature, incredibly talented,
but they are immature at times in a series, so
they might have that dud game. And also that the
Pacers are good enough I think to just win a
game that maybe Okay See doesn't fall asleep at the wheel.
I do think that the Pacers are capable of just
winning a game, so I could see it going six.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
Do you have anything? Do you have anything yet? Anything?

Speaker 5 (22:31):
Like?

Speaker 1 (22:31):
After you have today's game? What is the human nature? Human?
You know, our condition made up of? Well, now I
gotta bet something in the finals. What was your first instinct?
Did you? But did you bet even well, it sounds
like Jeff you already had some pending thing, so he
probably didn't bet anything after Brian, you have been anything
with the finals yet.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
I haven't because what I really like the most for
you is the rebounding props. I think that Holme, Grin
and Hartenstein are to the Pacers alive on the glass,
you know, So that's the first thing I thought of.
I like Okac in the series. I love okayc to
win the series.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
I got didn't fire you can't because of the big juice.
How about Jeff that you do do anything after the series.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
No, I mean I took, yeah, I took. I took
the thunder to win the series four to one.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
So okay, you did, right, I did? Yeah, over like
two to one something, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
Yeah, two to one.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
So it's interesting. There are other that was bet mgm.
There's other places that it's interesting. They offer exact amount
of games, five games at plus two thirty, okay, but
then the exact outcome to me, the Crust score four
to one is plus two fifty. Okay, so the twenty
set difference in the same result. Maybe it's not winning five.

(23:50):
So you know, you could you can find some you know,
some of those things. So so, Brian, you can rebound,
so you can wager own series player prop on in
some places, some shops, rebounder leader, the rebounding leader for
the series. Can I chet Holmgrit's minus two hundred hardensteins
plus one ninety.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Minus two hundred Wow? Holy cow? Okay?

Speaker 3 (24:13):
Yeah, well, I mean, okay, how about this. Guess what
SJ is for points leader for the series.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
You will never guess. Uh, it sounds like it's something astronomical. Well,
like I'll say points leader in the series minus. I
don't even know seven fifty something out like outlandish.

Speaker 4 (24:36):
Thirty five hundred.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Wow, I'm ucking to take twenty five.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
Minus five hundred.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
I thought I was saying something outlandish. I needed to
like multiply my outlandish five.

Speaker 4 (24:53):
So okay, So would you play?

Speaker 3 (24:55):
So then would you play like Halliburn or si Okam
just af if s J gets hurt, I meant Siakham
at plus twenty eight hundred to twenty eight to one,
holly Burn is sixty to one, Jesus plus six thousand,
Jalen Williams is actually second twenty five. I would not
bet on Jalen Williams. So I feel like that's worth

(25:15):
like holle Burn, I mean, I can't do it. I
can't bet on how I burned to score. That's gonna
it's gonna maybe crazy maybe Siakham maybe again.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
I guess bet.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
So Siakam is somehow I see that again, Like look
about who played great last night and played thirty eight
or thirty nine in game two? He's gonna have Jalen Williams.
I think on them right, probably makes sense. He's not
scoring thirty points and against Jalen Williams it's just that
that the matchups just don't make sense in this series.
For for for the Pacers have to shoot. They were

(25:46):
fifty three percent last night for most of the game
from three. That's how they have to shoot in this series.
I think, unless okay, he just doesn't play well, which
is certainly. I mean it's possible. They're a young team,
but that Denver, that game seven to win, I think
felt like a championship for them like that. That was
such an important win for them, for their young their
young psyche. So I can certainly happen, right, the Pacers

(26:09):
can make it happen.

Speaker 4 (26:10):
I doubt it.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
I want to see that. You're telling me you could
take I mean, God forbid something happens.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
Yeah, well there's no it's it's it's not on. It's
not on.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
I'm looking at MG.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
I'm like you not everyone offers those sort of serious
player props. Yeah, but they're they're.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
Mad that some more added.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
Yeah yeah, I know, like added throughout you know, so
so tip.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
Off even within the same sports book. You gotta you
gotta pay attention. Because I was looking at that last
night where I forget exactly what it was, but it
was say, like Pacers plus two and a half. Right,
so you're expecting if you're betting that, you're expecting the
series to at least go six games, unless you're saying
the Pacers are gonna win four to win. But you're

(26:58):
basically saying it's gonna six games. And it was one price, yeah,
and then there was another price a little bit too
far off, where it was the series to go over
five and a half games.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Right, So it's it's two different ways to get to
Pacers or OKAC wins the series in six what? But
depending on the price, it might be off a little
bit more than it should be. Right it is, you
got to pay attention to.

Speaker 4 (27:23):
I found it.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
Yeah, series end in six games. It's bet MGM plus
two seventy five thunder to win the series four to
two plus four to twenty five.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
See there you go, right, unless you think the Pacers
are winning four to two.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
But the Pacers winning four to two is plus twelve hundred,
So you would be better off just betting correct series results,
right plus four to twenty five and or plus twelve
hundred or both of them if you think it's going
six games. So make sure to probably some of this out.
I cracks like deep it to trying to find that
that point. Second tell you're trying to find that points
that points that debt on on Hollyburden sixty to one

(27:58):
series in points. But finals MVP SGA is a heavy favorite.
I can't bet anyone else, right, I mean, I guess
if you think the Pacers are gonna win, maybe Siakham
wins again. He won Eastern Conference MVP. I think that
Hallyburn thought he was gonna win that award. Do you
see that his face when they gave it to Sam No,
I didn't. I think I think Hollyburn thought he was
gonna get it. But wow, he did so.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
I went to very close vote Reggie Miller. For what
it's worth, he voted on Halliburton. But yeah, the vote
I took a screenshot of it was kind of interesting
because it was very very close between those two guys.
I'll get it for you real quick.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
Is Is it?

Speaker 3 (28:36):
Is? It? Should it be accepted that Reggie Miller showed
up to the game wearing all black saying that Tonight's
the end of the Knicks while he's calling the game
as a supposed and partial commentator of the game. I
like it look I like rivalries, I like hatred and sports.
I certainly hate teams myself. But that's a little bit

(29:00):
like uncool, right, Like you're supposed to you're supposed to
be partial during the game, and to show up uh
in a in a black suit and basically say like
this is the end of it for the Knicks. I
thought that was a little bit off putting if if
you're a Knicks fan trying to watch this game.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
For me, I think as long as the broadcast doesn't
sound like that, and I don't think Reggie has sounded
like Yeah, I think Reggie has been very fair.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
You know.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
You know how it goes with fans because Reggie is
a former pacer. Any a lot of Knicks fans will be, oh, like,
he hates our team and he's always he probably doesn't
know he he does, but he doesn't sound like it
on the broadcast, you know. So it's a dangerous thing
that you're gonna make people think that you're completely biased
when he's not. With his commentating, I would argue, if anything,

(29:50):
he's gone above and beyond to give the Knicks their
flowers during a series that he's been one sided.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
I was doing radio last night during the show. So
I had to. I had to. I was I had to.
I had a game on mute and I was game
casting sky Wings because that's not on television while I
was live betting, I did. I hit a live a
live bet player prop during the old sky Wings game.
You can wage on Angelies to miss her first shot

(30:19):
not and there are are exchanges, though they're not on
on sportsbooks. It's six and six for six, six six
for six so far miss her first shot?

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (30:28):
Interesting?

Speaker 3 (30:29):
Yeah, six for six again. You have to parlay it,
I think on some of those exchanges to make money
on it. But worth noting six for she airball the
eighteen footer last night to start her night.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
That's a sweet way to win a bet, right there.
You know someone who never misses the first shot, that
would be Isaac Low and Cron cash money every single time.
Normally a finger roll loves the finger roll the first
shot in there. He's got the latest for ust I
love what is going on? Buddy?

Speaker 6 (30:55):
Speaking of angel race and good morning everybody, you know Jeff,
Jeff's right, this is like a big thing on the internet.
In fact, a couple of degenerates have actually filmed videos
of themselves rooting for that first miss.

Speaker 7 (31:14):
Maybe I'll play for you later on.

Speaker 6 (31:17):
It's apparently surprisingly big on social media. But what's even
bigger the exploits of Game six of the Eastern Conference
Finals on Saturday night is the Indiana Pacers defeated the
New York Knicks one twenty five to one eight to
take the series four games to two in advance to
the Finals for the first time in twenty five years.
Pascal Siakam thirty one points, name series MVP, Tyrese Haliburton

(31:37):
twenty one points and thirteen assists. Now before Game six,
actor and Knicks van Ben Stiller tweeted a video of
Halliburton arriving at the arena carrying a Duffel bag, and
Stiller added the caption, quote good thing he brought his
duffel for the flight to New York unquote. Well after
the game, Halliburton himself responded, quote, Nah.

Speaker 7 (32:00):
It was to pack you all up unquote.

Speaker 6 (32:03):
Now, to his credit, Stiller replied, congrats all the best
in OKC. So indeed, it'll be the Pacers visiting Oklahoma
City on Thursday night in Game one of the NBA
Finals AKA the Paul George Alumni Classic Anyway in Major
League Baseball. On Saturday night, now the bad evening for
New York continued. Dodgers over the Yankees eighteen to two.

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They had five home runs, including two by Max Munsey,
who was finished with seven rbi. However, Aaron Judge hat
two home runs for the Yankees. He now is twenty
one on the season. Also Saturday night, the Seattle Mariners
defeated the Minnesota Twins at eleven innings, five to four.
Seattle's Cole Young the game winning fielders choice in the
bottom of the eleventh inning in his major league debut.
Seattle's Cal Rawley hit his twenty second home run of

(32:47):
the season, tying show Hey Otani for the Major League
League guys, back.

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Speaker 1 (35:15):
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Speaker 2 (35:16):
Barlay flatter, yes, parlay platter which have one leg for you.
We pool everything together for a greater payout. Crack. You
love this, you love all things parlays. What do you
have for us for the first leg?

Speaker 1 (35:30):
Here? Buddy? Well, I like I do like this play.
Actually should have text us out to you guys. Baltimore
Orioles under five in the first five innings on MGM
line under five minus a dollar eighteen. It's absolutely fine
as long as you get the five Baltimore Orioles under
first five.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
All right, I love it, I love it. All right.
I'm gonna go with baseball as well. I will take
the Mets team total over four and a half against
the Rockies today. The Rockies are throwing a pitcher with
an ERA near ten. They give up a ton of runs.
Actually want to streak of till yesterday four straight games

(36:10):
where the team total of the opponent was under But
yesterday the Mets got back on track one eight to two.
So I'll go with the Mets here minus one seventy
five at NMGM here over four and a half runs.
Also yesterday, I took the Rockies to win under nine
and a half games in the month of June. They

(36:31):
only have nine wins this baseball season. They're winning ten
games in June. Okay, take my money, all right. Did
you play the Marlins though for a couple of games,
so maybe that's why. But I like the Mets here
to score over four and a half runs against palm
Quist oh to three the era of eight point seven

(36:52):
eight with a whip of over two during the Mets Day,
score over four and a half runs.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Okay, I'll keep with the baseball theme here. It's thought
about going WNBA, but I've loved this play numerous times
this year. When the Gram pitches, you just you take
the under in the game. It's a seven and a
half today against my Cardinals. Don't love taking a game
with my Cardinals involved where I have to root for

(37:18):
no runs. But it's just a good play. It's a
solid play. Krack always says his allegiance is his bankroll,
you know. So for the parlay platter, I'll take Cards
Rangers under seven and a half. The Gram has been
an absolute beast, and the Rangers are if you not
thrive in giving him run support. So I'll take the

(37:38):
under here. Eric Fetti, for what it's worth, is going
for the Redbirds, And yeah, you might need to do
a little bit of homework on him. It's extensive stuff.
So bear with me. He's pitching against the Rangers today. Okay,
So I like the under seven and a half in
that matchup. I'll go with that. And then you could
dice it up a few different ways. If you want

(37:59):
to go with the nurfy, you could go with no
run first inning. I think it's a minus minus dollar
thirty five right in that neighborhood. You could go under
two and a half runs in the first three innings.
Crack sometimes you like those plays. I think those are
all on the table here. But I'll take the game
under seven and a half.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
I hit an under three yesterday with the Royals under
half a run against Schooball and the Roles scored one
run the whole game. Yeah, so yeah, so uh that
was our to that was two it was uh it
was yesterday, Yeah, one nothing. It was on the wrong day.
They won one nothing, but then they scored that run

(38:38):
like in the eighth inning or something. So I was
right thinking, Yeah, school ball is incredible, man, I mean
taking his Yeah, he only had seven strikeouts only I
think that was probably six and a half. Seven a
half is typically where strikeout prop is at. But he
allowed two hits over seven innings and loss. So that's
so he did not actually end up losing, but they
did not did not win the game.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
Put it like that, how you must sounds so spoiled.
I get there's gotta be betters out there where you
might take the over strikeout prop for schoolbl and he's
just amazing that day. And you're like, I got hooked
on the strikeout prop. You know, I'm sure.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
I don't know if you get hooked on a strikeout prop.
I feel like that's a little different than like a
WNBA total or something like that. I the other night, man,
this is why gambling just crack. Do you have a
player prop over eighteen and a half? You get fifteen
points at halftime, eighteen points with six minutes left in
the third quarter.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
Blowing him out or some or no, did he just stop?
He just didn't go.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
There was a she Tina Charles and over eighteen minutes
to end the game, sixteen minutes say zero points?

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Wow, some of the grossest stuff too. It's not just
that she didn't get that final point. It's what else
happened though, Jeff, Like she scored.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
But yeah, I've had a travel and there was like, yeah,
there's a score in an offensive foul, but me she
played thirty four minutes Suggage was in the lineup. But
also such as life, that's gambling for you, brutal.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
What's your bet crack for the parlay platter? What is
it like the juice? I say again, okay, no problem,
we'll get that for you. All right, we move forward.
Oh what's going on? Happy Sunday to you. Hope your
day is off to a fantastic start. I'll tell you what.

(40:24):
We always talk about the NFL being a copycat league.
They might have company here relatively soon. Miles Turner of
the Pacers, he talked about this after the series win
last night. He said, Hey, the Pacers are a team
that the league is going to be modeling themselves after
going forward. And you could say something similar with OKC

(40:45):
as well. Right, they're young teams, athletic, deep, they're built
on depth, not the superstar model. They're not, you know,
getting two or three superstars together and pairing them that way.
So this is the present right now. These are the
two finals teams, and I think it's the future of
the NBA where you look at how the CBA has

(41:06):
been reworked and you really get hammered as a franchise
if you exceed the luxury tax and you get into
that second apron apron that they really hammer you. Man,
you gotta like sacrifice your first born and like you
have draft picks that are frozen, all kinds of stuff.
So teams just they can't build that way. It's not

(41:27):
a viable path. So the way the Pacers have done it,
the way OKC has done it, it's not the easiest
thing to build depth like that. But there's a ripple
effect here, and I could see, guys, I could see
NBA draft picks being valued a lot more going forward
than they used to be. Think about the NFL. NFL
teams highly value draft picks. You'll see some years where

(41:51):
it's like, oh, Randy Moss got dealt for a fourth rounder,
and you're like, what that's it. It's like, yeah, that's
how they value draft picks in these trades oftentimes. So
these days of like Rudy Gobert getting traded for five
first round picks, I just don't think we're gonna see
that nearly as commonly going forward. You can't build depth

(42:11):
like that. You need draft picks. And the way the
NFL does it with their teams. They use their draft picks,
they highly value them because you need those guys to
be young, cheap, those are your core guys. And I
think something similar will be happening here in the NBA.
Do I expect teams to never make trades for stars, No,

(42:33):
that's still gonna happen. But building through the draft, building
your depth up. You see it with these two teams
in the finals. Man teams are gonna mimic that, There's
no doubt about it.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
Yeah. The thing that I that, I mean, you have
to now because of the convoluted, confusing salary cap Apron stuff.
I find this such an unforced error by the NBA
because A No one understands it, and B you do
you punish teams that draft and develop players so that

(43:05):
you want to pay like the guys that these teams
can't afford because it's weird Apron rules and I don't
find it great for the game. But yeah, I mean,
team's gonna have to draft and develop guys now because
they can't afford to keep everyone like okay, see should
have been able to afford to keep Hardenstein, Harnstein, like
they should have been able to do to afford that.
I mean, they do. The Nick should have been able

(43:25):
to afford that, and they weren't because of this this
second April, third Aprin thing. So yeah, you're right, Brian,
You're gonna have to build your team young now because
of that. And that changes the dynamics because we know
for so many years older teams tend to win championships. Okay,
see would break that model, and that's I think the
model of the future.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
You have to do that to win consistently.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
Yeah, you know, listen, of course teams want to copycat
with the thunder did, but you know they get I
mean really did they get once on lifetime trade that
pretty much made up their entire team. It's really not
so talked about as much as it should be. People
forgot they traded Paul George for Alexander and five, like
you guys just said, five first round draft picks. This

(44:09):
could really go down in history as maybe the most
lopsided trade in NBA history. I still think most teams,
especially big market teams, will go after the big stars
and free agency market and not value their future draft
picks as much. But the smaller market teams have seen
that stockpiling draft picks and building their team does work

(44:31):
like it has worked for the Thunder, So it is
an interesting topic to go over though.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
Yeah, I think it's one of those deals where the
NFL it's just easy to understand. You might not understand.
I don't understand the NBA stuff like the second Apron
and the luxury tax thresholds. It's much more difficult. The
NFL is just like, here's the salary cap. It's two
hundred and sixty two hundred and sixty million dollars per
team or whatever it happens to be. Can't exceed that.

(44:57):
That's as easy as it gets. The NBA is different,
so like we don't have a hard salary cap, so
we had to you know, massage the CBA. And now
there's this second Apron penalization and I don't understand any
of that, but I do understand what it leads to,
and it leads to the league not allowing teams to

(45:18):
just stockpile superstars. You can't just grab three superstars, pay
them all, and you know, have a viable path to
a championship. You're gonna have no depth, You're gonna have
penalties galore, and so it discourages teams to do it.
So I get what it leads to. I just don't
understand how we got there to Jeff's point, but I
guess that that's what it leads to. Is what do

(45:40):
you guys prefer. Do you prefer parody or do you
prefer dynasties? Do you prefer a team consistently dominating? Because
the NBA, they prefer parody, otherwise they wouldn't have a
second Apron, they wouldn't have redone. The CBA.

Speaker 3 (45:55):
Yeah, but that's that's not what's been successful in sports.
Not we watch. I'm not saying that ratings matter for
the discussion for all the time, but because the dynasties
turned to villains, and we watch or hate watch villains.
And I'm not saying this is the wrong way to
do things, but there's no villain in this in this
postseason right now, there's no villain. They're all nice guys,

(46:17):
which is fine, which I'm not saying you have to
be a but we watch. Whether you like or dislike
Lebron James, you're gonna watch or just like Steph Curry
and the Warriors, you're gonna watch the Chiefs. Right Like,
look when the NFL is most popular. It's when these
dynasties are going. We watch every Tom Brady game, like
them or hate him. Like you're watching the Patriots, You're

(46:38):
watching the Chiefs, and you're watching, you know, when the Yankees,
and like the Dodgers right now, they're they're the evil Empire, right,
They're not the Yankees anymore. To the Dodgers like these superpowers.
We watch them play more often than we do. When
you give this parody and the NBA has not really
had this though, Brian, Right, you look at the champions

(46:59):
it's like from the same teams in NBA history. That's
been a little different the last couple of years. Toronto
snuck went in, the Buckscot went in, and no Quinci.
I think ratings have been going down. We tend to
watch those villains. So I'm not saying that they have
to create a salary cap to create super teams. It's
great that all these different fan bases get to have

(47:20):
the feeling of winning championships, But as far as what's
good for the league, I think super teams are good
because they're villains and that you need that as part
of your fan watching experience.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
I like parody I just do. I like seeing different
teams and any kind of finals, NBA anything each year.
But you know, with the NBA and the free agency,
that usually probably isn't going to be the case. But
and I'm thinking NFL like I was, I'm ready to
change around now, all right. I guess the Eagles for them,

(47:56):
I'm ready to get rid of, like the Kansas City dynasty.
And I like to see some of the other teams,
uh get in. I would like them to be good
enough to be there. But I enjoy watching some different teams.
And you know, just growing up the way I did,
I root for those underdogs anyway to get there. I
root for those teams. I'm not rooting for the Dodgers

(48:18):
or the Yankees or I was always rooting for the Mets,
and they were, you know, literally the red at a
step child and the family up until eighty six. And
when I was actually there, I was a big fan
of the Mets back then because everyone in my house
was all Yankee fans. So I like to see other
teams get involved. And but it's a shame sometimes when

(48:38):
they have you know, only so much they could pay out.
You know, their their stars and compared to other teams
that you know, they always said these teams like the
Yankees and Steinbrenn are buying the World Series, and these
teams with big salaries, like I'll say now that the
Dodgers giant. I don't know who the biggest in baseball is,
but I wouldn't be surprised if it isn't. Isn't the Dodgers.

(48:59):
So I root for some of the lower paying teams
and the underdog, the Cinderella story types.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
Yeah, no, I'm with you, Crack. I prefer parody. I
think it's much more interesting when you go into a
season not knowing who's gonna win the championship or at
least be in the championship. How many years did we
have it where it was like, hey, just wake me up.
When it's the Cavs and Warriors for a fourth straight
year in the finals, that's just not interesting to me.

(49:28):
And this is the first time ever in NBA history
we're gonna have seven different champions in a seven year span.
We got a new champion this year. I like that better.
But hey, listen, there's something to what Jeff's saying. There's
no way it can be perfect because what Jeff's saying
is correct. Dynasties equal hate watching, you know.

Speaker 6 (49:47):
You.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
Eventually the nineties Bowls were as popular as it got,
and they won so much there were plenty of fans
actively rooting against them, hoping that the dynasty would finally end.
That's what happens. And yeah, it is is interesting, U,
but there's a downside to it as well. And you
think about an NBA season that's so long, eighty two games,

(50:08):
you know, and you've got a dynasty. It's like, why
am I going out of my way to watch a
February game thinking that this lower tier team has a
shot at all to compete for a championship?

Speaker 1 (50:21):
You know?

Speaker 2 (50:22):
So I prefer parody more than dynasties, although there can
be a ratings impact when you do have a dynasty.
And I'll tell you this, Okay, See, they've got a
legitimate shot to build a dynasty right there. You've got
a superstar, an MVP and SGA. You've got young, good
talent that's gonna be there for a long time. You've

(50:44):
got draft picks galore. They've got twenty draft picks over
the next five years. So Sam Presty, he could get
aggressive and go all in and try to get another superstar.
But just even as is, they've got enough where they're
gonna threaten to be a dynasty over these next handful
of years. I don't think that's outlandish at all. They're
eighty and eighteen this season. They're twenty nine to one

(51:07):
against the East. That's their record in the regular season.
So you know, good luck Pacers with that. Those are
major credentials that ok has there.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
Yeah, look, I think OKAC is going to be able
to keep this going for a long time.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
I think they're gonna be a problem for a long
long time because their nucleus isn't going anywhere. Yeah, And
the scary thing is they could add to it in
a major way if Presty gets really aggressive. He's got
more than enough firepower to do it. So we'll see
where they go from here. I guess that's the question.
If they steam roll the Pacers in the finals, why

(51:47):
would you go all in for like Gyiannis or something
like that. You might just roll with what you got, I.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
Agree, Can okay, see if I guess to afford to
pay all these players, I mean that's the thing, right,
Like with this apron stuff. Can you can you you're
still a small market team. When these guys are all due,
can you pay all of them like that? I think
the NBA penalizes your ability to do that now, which
I think that's not what you want from a CBA.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
Yeah, I know there is a downside to it where
you want to keep your like your homegrown guys or
the closest thing to it. They have some of them,
right with Jalen Williams and chet I know SGA was
traded there and you could go on down the list,
but some of their own guys, like yeah, it sucks
when the teams have to get rid of them. So

(52:35):
that's the downside of it. But we'll see what they
do in the years to come. A lot of tough decisions,
but that's a good problem to have, like, hey, how
do we pay all of these fantastic players instead of hey,
how are we going to get fantastic players?

Speaker 1 (52:47):
You know?

Speaker 2 (52:48):
So, okay, see has problems that other teams would love
to happen.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
In sixty eight million, that's their payroll.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
Okay, wow, yeah, one.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
Hundred and sixty eight million, and you just look at
their My god, all the guys in five figure you know,
I say five figures, I'm sorry, eight figures, you know,
starting with SGA forty forty one million, Hartin's in twenty eight,
Dort eighteen, whole Room seven eighteen, it's called eighteen Caruso twenty.

(53:19):
I mean it's amazing all these You almost say, how
can is there that much money? But then again I
always had it with football, How can you afford to
pay quarterbacks fifty million dollars? I did there must be
a lot of advertising dollars and a lot of sportsbook money,
a lot of sportsbook advertising money on these in these stadiums.
Just to look at these salaries, I would think my grandfather,

(53:42):
I think I said it before. He was flipping out
back in like the eighties, He's like, how can Steinbrunner
give Dave Winfield twenty million for ten years? I mean, Grandpa,
what would you be saying? Now? O?

Speaker 2 (53:54):
Wow, it's crazy too where I think, okay, see they
show you, yeah, what can be done in the draft
where I know SGA wasn't drafted by OKAC, but he
got there. He's a former eleventh overall pick. You know,
like you look at Cason Wallace is a higher pick

(54:14):
than SGA is. Think about that Kayson Wallas tenth overall,
SGA eleventh overall, both out of Kentucky, Lou Dort Alex Caruso.
Those guys are undrafted. Guys' undrafted in the NBA. To
be that successful is not common. Hartenstein's the second round guy,
forty third overall. Like their highest draft pick is Chet

(54:36):
who is second overall. Jyalen Williams out of Santa Clara.
He was twelfth overall. Think about that. We just had
the NBA Draft lottery, you know, Cooper Flagg, the number
one overall pick, sweepstakes and all of that. If you're like, gosh,
we got the twelfth pick, this sucks, It's like, well,
Jalen Williams was a twelfth overall pick. I know they
don't grow on trees, but SGA, Klay Thompson, eleventh overall picks,

(54:59):
Yannis Kawhi, We're talking like fifteenth overall picks in that neighborhood.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
Yeah, so that does feel more like luck than anything else.
I mean, you know, you if you hit on those,
it's good for your scouting department. But I don't know
if it's that skill to hit on the twelve. We
see obviously most of the superstars come in the top
six or seven. I don't know if if that's you

(55:25):
surely can't you can do it. I'm not saying that
it's like something that is easily attainable.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
Obviously, absolutely no, exactly, that's exactly what I'm saying, where
it can be done for anyone who's like, oh we
got a twelfth pick. This is gonna be a guy
who maybe is a rotational player, and that's it. It's like,
not necessarily, it can be way better than that. There
are examples, all right, We've got Bill Krackenberger, professional sports handicapper.

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Speaker 5 (56:53):
Follow the money, real good money.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
Ah, yes, sir good man. Christian Cipolini, bet MGM Trading
Manager joins us here year, good morning, Christian, so thunder
Pacers in the NBA Finals. Let's pust out a scale here,
scale from one to ten, ten being the best. What
would you say? How desirable is this finals matchup from
a bet MGM standpoint?

Speaker 8 (57:18):
Well, yeah, that's a good question because there's a couple
of different factors. Is for one, you know, each game,
game by game, which one is going to be? You know,
is this final is going to be entertaining? Is it
going to draw in money? I think that's probably a
little bit less so if it was Thunder knicks or
even Timberwolf snicks. But from a Betagms features perspective, the

(57:38):
Thunder are an incredible outcome for us. They have been
one of our best outcomes from the beginning of the season.
What's helped that a lot is the fact that they
have been a short favorite the entire year throughout and
then at this point now minus six hundred still so
they're by far our best outcome. The Pacers would be
a losing outcome, but nothing crazy, you know, still below

(58:00):
seven figures, but we would definitely prefer the Thunder.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
To win this.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
Yeah, are you gonna you're gonna take many tickets you
think on Pacers to win the series? Or is that
just people just gonna stay away and bet sort of
series series outcome series price we're talking earlier, you know,
to for this series to go six games is one price,
but then it's a different price for the Thunder to
win the series four to two or the Pacers win
the series four to two.

Speaker 4 (58:26):
So do you think people are gonna play It's sort.

Speaker 8 (58:28):
Of like that, Yeah, most likely, especially because when you
start seeing that price and betters will look and be like, okay, well,
maybe there's not a very good chance so that the
Pacers could win it. So they'll try and find different
ways to the bett. I've already seen a ton of
action on a sweep from the thunder side of things,
so a little bit less Pacers action than definitely some

(58:52):
more people being exotic on how they're gonna bet the thunder.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
Good morning, Christian. So we got the NFL season, believe it,
and hard to belive that we're going to say this
only ninety days away here for the regular season, literally
two months eight weeks from the preseason, which of course
we're happy with us three guys are total degenerates preseason football.
Let me ask you, though, are you getting any action

(59:17):
yet or is it a little too early for people
to break out their wallets for NFL futures or is
that even talk yet or not really if people just
wait till last minute.

Speaker 8 (59:28):
Oh, from a futures perspective, super Bowl outright, those are
certainly being that we already have a ton of action,
and that happens throughout the summer. If we talk like
game by game basis, you know we have all week
one up. Those games are taking very little action. There's
some there's some sharps that see a number that they know,
they like, they know it'll go around the key number,
and they're not worried about having their money tied up,

(59:50):
but at least from a more of the public perspective,
they don't like having it tied up on a singular game.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
But no, I was meaning yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 8 (59:57):
But from that futures perspective, people are definitely betting on
their teams to win it, and teams they like they
definitely jump on this early, even though the price really
isn't really going to change much. But as we talk
about a lot of the balls king. So that's why
I think stets yep got you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
How about Christian, you look at both, you know, playoff series.
Now that we have the Stanley Cup Final, NBA Finals
matchups are all set. What's ideal for you guys at
bet MGM. What do you need maybe like from a
broad standpoint, but also if you get a little bit
more in depth of like threading the needle, how long
the series go, anything specific that you guys would like

(01:00:35):
as well.

Speaker 8 (01:00:37):
Yeah, So, as I touched on the basketball one, right now,
we're going to want the Thunder to win it in
probably like six or seven. With the idea of for
multiple reasons. For one, that'll get us more games. The
more games we can get in any one of these series,
the better because it's just more action on a game
by game basis. So if a thunder could win it
in seven, that would be you know, if I could
make a wish, that would be what I would want

(01:00:58):
because I get to the most games, and then that's
under outcome, which is by far our best. And then
on the hockey side of things, we have the rematch
them last year Oiler's Panthers, and you know, I'm not
sure if it's because of the fact that the Florida
Panthers we're not live in that betting state. Three straight
appearances here, we barely take any action on them. All

(01:01:19):
three years, we've taken very little action. They've been one
of our best outcomes from the beginning. So the book
will certainly be rooting for the Panthers. Oilers on the
flip side of things, not a good outcome for us,
definitely rooting against them, even though they are the favorite now.
But similar similar thing in that that boot, we want
this to go seven games to the more games, the better,

(01:01:40):
and especially hockey we can get. But we definitely will
want the Panthers.

Speaker 3 (01:01:45):
Yeah, some of these serious prices are interesting here, Like
points leader is McDavid obviously plus one twenty. I'm sure
you're righting a bunch of tickets on night. He's got
twenty six points so far in the post. Do you
see a lot of people playing these sort of player
series numbers? You know, you have him up an NBA
would imagine pretty soon, but you do. Are they playing
top goal scorer, top series point leader, things like that?

Speaker 8 (01:02:09):
Yeah, so it's funny you mentioned McDavid because his name
is the one that just really stands out and takes bets.
So points leader, you know, makes sense. He's he's the
favorite on that.

Speaker 5 (01:02:18):
Side of things.

Speaker 8 (01:02:19):
But even series goal leader more drost suttles than the
one over at least this full season, in a little
bit to last year, he's been scoring a lot more
goals and it's when David's been feeding him. But they
see that named McDavid, he's still getting bet for a
top goal scorer. And then there's funny of Florida players.
But Florida's so mixed up and there's a lot of
different one second hit it, which at least for me,
makes us a little bit of an interesting market. But

(01:02:40):
all those players to Chuck Bennett or hay Gee Barkoff
all have at least some action on them. So it's
a little bit more mixed if you're betting the Panthers,
if you're betting the o others is people just see
McDavid and that's the.

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
Christian you know. I spoke to an old school book
maker that's been in this fifty years and he can't
actually said to me, if he had a choice, he
wishes he can have the Colorado Rockies off the board.
He doesn't even want to book. He doesn't even want
to book the game. And now he's dead serious. He's like,
I'm doing this fifty one years, Bill, I wish I couldn't.

(01:03:16):
I wish I didn't have to even have the Rockies
on the board. And this is before they just went
one to nine again, still at nine wins. Here. Let
me ask you, though I live by an old rule.
I've been doing this thirty years myself, betting professionally. I
tell him at Rock's name, of course, his name is
Rocky Rock. I said, you know, this is why people

(01:03:37):
are laying four to one on the Mets and the
other side of its plus three ten. In the end,
you have to win, and he's just saying, no, I
don't have to win. I'm buried. I am buried. Do
you guys feel the same way? A BETTAMGM. Are you
guys getting buried on anti you know Rocky bets this
season and what you're feeling going forward?

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:03:59):
Let me look, I'll try to show you what I'm
looking at right now, looking at this Mets Rockies game
for today. From one, the Rockies are plus three hundred,
Mets arous four hundred, which is just so absurd in
a baseball game, especially in June. And then just quickly
what you mentioned on two, they don't have ten wins
and we're into June, which is another crazy thing. But
when I'm looking at this from a moneyline perspective and

(01:04:21):
a run line perspective, ninety nine point five percent of
the bets that we have taken or on the Mets,
so no one is touching them on the money line
and nobody is touching them on the run line, looks
like one singular bet on Rodney one point five. Like
I'm not exaggerate, it looks to be one or two
bets here. So Yeah, from that same perspective, there's not

(01:04:43):
much we can do. We're trying, and nobody wants to
bet this team.

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
Amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
Wow, that's amazing. Well, hey, Christian, I always appreciate your time. Man,
hope you have a fantastic day. We'll catch you soon,
of course.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
You guys, actually you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
All right, see you Christian there he is, Christian Cipolini.
Bet MGM trading manager does an outstanding job. Wow, one bet,
like I see one maybe two rocket.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
Across the entire bet MGM network. Think about that. That's impossible.
Cannot happen, it can one bet? Yeah? Do you know
how many states bet MGM is legal? Oh my god?

Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
They they they're they're that bad. I don't know they
they just they you Okay, they get a lot of runs.
Sure it happens, but they don't score runs either. Crack
like that's they don't do anything good. Their bullpen actually
is fine, but they have one hundred and eighty one

(01:05:40):
run scored this year. That would be last in baseball.
They've about three hundred and sixty four runs with guess
what will be last in baseball. So they don't do anything. Well,
now I'm not laying four hundred on anything but that
ye team total over, I keep I keep hitting every day. Yeah,
so I took under, I took under, not an under

(01:06:01):
nine and a half wins for the month of June. Okay, here,
here's what their schedule is. You tell me if they're
getting They've won nine games so far this season. Okay,
so they're not being the Mets. Say, in my opinion,
they got three with the Marlins, but they're they're They're
in Florida for three, they host the Mets, host the Giants,
they're at Atlanta. That's nine games. If they win two

(01:06:23):
of those, I don't know, probably maybe two, let's say, yeah,
all right, then they go in there and then they
go to Atlanta, go to go to go to Washington
play Diamonbacks, Dodgers, and Brewers.

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
I'm actually I actually pulled the schedule up on one
to see they.

Speaker 4 (01:06:38):
Had they winned ten of ten of those games.

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
It's tough to see. It'd be funny if you, if you,
just if you, if their schedule was nothing but bottom feeders,
I'd still be like.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
I have the schedule, there is some bottom feeders. But
I want to tell you something. I still see chef's
point here. Yes, it's so bad.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
Oh if you're like, here you go. They've got the Orioles,
they've got the white sox that I'd still be like.

Speaker 3 (01:07:06):
So they have twenty games this month. It looks like
maphis right right, we have we had six that we got,
we got we got twelve, we got nineteen. I'm sorry,
they have yeah, twenty five games this month. Okay, so
I get beat at what ten and fifteen?

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
Yeah, okay, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:07:25):
I mean sure, if I get beat, I get beat,
hand up. I'll pick the hell and also too. It's funny,
is like, if they get to nine wins, let's say
I can just bet the Rockies plus three hundred the
rest of the month to make the money back.

Speaker 4 (01:07:39):
I guess what is.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
The word of the actual bet nine wins? Like, what
is it they have?

Speaker 3 (01:07:45):
I'll tell you right now. I haven't open right now.

Speaker 4 (01:07:48):
So it is just sounds.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
I say, it sounds to.

Speaker 4 (01:07:52):
Under nine and a half win.

Speaker 3 (01:07:54):
It's it's June specials and it's not offered by, you know,
by someone else. June Special under nine and a half
wins minus one twenty Colorado Rockies regularly wins in June
of twenty twenty five market settle based on any games
made official in the listed calendar months.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
Okay, it just there's got to be some catch.

Speaker 3 (01:08:17):
Well, I think I think I think the catch is
that like it returns to meat. Like for example, again,
I told you guys, I bet against the Rockies. Team
told every day the opponent, and it lost four games
in a row before yesterday. I mean like eventually and
they're playing they're in They're playing the Cups, who have
the number one run scoring team in baseball, and the
Cups scored nine runs over three games, and the Rockies did
not win one of those games, which is again like

(01:08:37):
just incredibly just it's it's crazy, man. They just they're
not winning any of these games. So they're not scoring either. Again,
they're just doing all the things that it takes to
lose a lot of these games. So I yeah, I mean, look,
you can't lay four hundred obviously on these wagers, but
I mean you're getting plus two and a half at
minus won ten.

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:08:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
I will tell you one thing that you can feel
comfortable laying four hundred on. That would be I low
crushing it. Isaac Lowan bron he's got the latest for us.
What's going on, buddy.

Speaker 6 (01:09:08):
You know there's a satirical website out there called the
Babylon B.

Speaker 7 (01:09:12):
It's kind of a cousin of the Onion.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
Well.

Speaker 6 (01:09:16):
They had a recent headline quote Colorado Rocky's accused of
using performance inhibiting drugs unquote. So kudos you have, Babylon B.
Also kudos to the Indiana Pacers because in Game six
of the Eastern Conference Finals on Saturday night, they beat
the New York Knicks one twenty five to aweight to
win the series four games to two advance of the

(01:09:36):
NBA Finals for the first time in twenty five years.
Pascal Siaka scored thirty one on his way to being
named series MVP. Tyreee Haliburton twenty one points and thirteen
rebounds Game one of the NBA Finals at Oklahoma City
on Thursday night. Meanwhile, in Major League Baseball on Saturday night,
the Los Angeles Dodgers defeated the New York.

Speaker 7 (01:09:55):
Yankees eighteen to two.

Speaker 6 (01:09:58):
Dodgers at five home runs, including two by Max Munsey,
who had finished with seven RBI. The Yanks Aaron Judge
two home runs. He now has twenty one on the season.
Finally some NFL news. Congratulations to Buffalo Bill's quarterback Josh Allen,
who got married on Saturday to actress Hayley Steinfeld in
Santa Barbara, California. And guys, here's a sampling of the

(01:10:21):
reaction to the nuptials on social media at positions Mafia
comment and quote, Taylor and Travis will never be this
iconic or legendary unquote. Meanwhile at Lady Rowe, who is
apparently not a football fan observed, quote is he nice,

(01:10:44):
He's got crazy eyes and I'm concerned unquote. And finally
at tie high seven eight nine add en quote cool,
but when is the Bills winning a Super Bowl?

Speaker 7 (01:10:58):
Unquote? That is sampling of the reaction to this blessed event.

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live bets, and so much more. By the way, a
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And by the way, the payout for the parlay platter,
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(01:11:47):
in the first five innings of this White Sox Orioles game. Jeff,
You've got the Mets scoring their team total over four
and a half runs today. I've got under in the
Cardinals Rangers game. The gramo on the mound. He's been
a beast, so that will pay out plus four forty two. Well, yeah,

(01:12:07):
not bad, a little more than four to one, not
bad at all. By the way, how about the Dodgers
just smacking around the Yankees?

Speaker 3 (01:12:15):
Holy cow, they both had position players pitching last night.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
It was I love that. I always love that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:23):
Yeah, and I was.

Speaker 3 (01:12:24):
I was on the radio last night and the total
was nine and a half and you saw it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:12:30):
The Dodgers scored four in the first and six in
the second, so it was over quickly. But then we
were looking at the number as it kept going. It
was fourteen to one, and it was eighteen and a
half at one point, and then obviously got over as
they hit a three run home run. I think Monthy
did off a position player. It got me thinking, do
you remember the White Sox had. His last name was Mercedes.

(01:12:53):
He was a catcher, and it just a couple years
ago when LaRussa was coaching and he hit a re
oh pitch against a position player for a home run.
And at that point in his career he was young.
He was bagging like three hundred eight. He was hit
for power, and Larusa like benched him to them down
to the minors, and he never came back from it ever, Johann,

(01:13:15):
it would have been like he cans. I remember watching
him play here. The minor league team in Charlotte is
a White Sox affiliate, Triple A phil He came down
here to play.

Speaker 4 (01:13:23):
His career never was the same.

Speaker 3 (01:13:24):
Because Larusa benched him after hitting a three to zero
home run against a position player. And I'm my things like,
I mean, you not supposed to try. I don't like,
what are you supposed to do? Just like let him
let him do whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
Why.

Speaker 3 (01:13:41):
I don't get like why, I mean just old school
baseball thinking there where he just was like, no, you
had a three zero home run up nineteen to nothing
on I I it's I'm gonna find it for you
because it's pretty wow, it's pretty.

Speaker 4 (01:13:56):
Well what happened to this guy's career afterwards?

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
That's crazy? Listen some of the unwritten stuff. You're Mercedes,
not everything that Like, we're live. What are we doing
over here? You're supposed to ground out to short you
know you're trying to get a hit? Say anything wrong
with that?

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (01:14:14):
Interesting stuff right there? But yeah, how about real quick crack?
What do you think about Otani bullpen sessions, rehabbing the elbow?
You like the Dodgers' decision to pitch him this year?

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
What do you think I go back and forth with
a tainy pitching again? Is it worth the risk? Can
he be dominant on the mound like he was for
the Angels? And is it worth the risk that he
can heard himself again and not be able to play
at all? So you know, I go I guess said,
I go back and forth. Maybe the answers to have
him as a starter that throws eighty ninety pitchers a
game and maybe bring him out of the bullpen to
pitching inning here and there when they need to. Middle

(01:14:46):
be interesting to see what the Dodgers do with him
once he gets gets the okay to pitching games again.

Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
Yeah, it hasn't pitched since August of twenty three. Yep,
But trying to rehab. I think how awesome is show? Hey, right,
he's still hitting while he's rehabbing his pitching elbow. I
think about that. He's among the league leaders in home
runs while he's rehabbing. That's insanity right there. We've got
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(01:15:15):
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I think I know what you're doing here.

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Okay, you might know what.

Speaker 3 (01:15:31):
Call like twenty four minutes today, I have a feeling
I have a guess. I'm gonna guess when we get
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Speaker 5 (01:16:10):
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I'm gonna have to go to that. I went to
the MGM and went to the series total games. Let's
take a little flyer and nothing crazy over five and
a half games plus so five series total games over
five and a half. Thinking there's gonna be uh, I
think we're gonna have a little back and forth here

(01:16:40):
face pages are gonna get a game or two, hopefully
two here over five and a half plus so five
all right plus money on that?

Speaker 3 (01:16:48):
Ye like it? I will go WNBA I got two
for you here, Mariana Stewart over seventeen and a half
points against the Sun. She did not play well last game.
She shot three for ten. The question is the minutes
today we'll see it is they're doing the Commissioner's Cup thing.

(01:17:11):
It sounds it looks like so like these these games matter.
They're eighteen and a half point favorites against the Sun today.
I just like her to play better. Like she didn't
play well last game. It was a back to back
for the Liberty. It just didn't have the legs a
little older. And then I took the feast of Collier
over twenty two and a half points. Same thing, like
I think she had sixteen last game she did she
had she had thirty four, twenty three, twenty eight, thirty

(01:17:33):
three and sixteen. So I'm gonna bet on Hire bounce
back against the Valkyrie tonight, who are not very good.
I'll have her over twenty two and a half points.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
By the way, I want to go back to last
year because it's something to keep in mind for props
totals and all that. Is this a little bit like
Olympic basketball pool play? Well, I believe it is where
the Commissioner's Cup, kind of like the NBA Cup. Your
point totals matter in these games, I believe, right, So
I think so saw it last year. They're just bombing away.

(01:18:04):
They might be up by seventeen points. They're just bombing
away down the stretch trying to rack up those points.
So that's something to keep in mind for sure in
these games. Yeah, this might be a little bit risky
with that in mind. But Jeff, I'm looking at the
New York Liberty Here. Our girl Sabrina Yanescu was fantastic
the last time out, twenty eight points against the Mystics.

(01:18:27):
Today we're looking at eighteen and a half. Seems to
be eighteen. You's got to nineteen points. You didn't even
have to break twenty for the over. I'm going under here, Zigzac,
But Breanna Stewart plays better. My girl, John Quell Jones
does her thing. Sabrina probably not like the same workload.
The amount of minutes, I would imagine they're gonna be

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crushing the sun. So give me Sabrina under eighteen and
a half points, I'll go.

Speaker 3 (01:18:52):
My guess was you were going Jones under eleven and
a half rebounds.

Speaker 2 (01:18:56):
I love John Quinn.

Speaker 3 (01:18:57):
Because she's been under that three times in five game
this season. She just had I just made and I
don't think she's gonna have a lot of minutes tonight
because I think they're gonna beat the sun pretty easily.
She guards. You know, Charles will be who will be outside.
She teammate kind of plays all over. She won't be
directly in the paint. I think this.

Speaker 4 (01:19:15):
I thought you were gonna Jones.

Speaker 3 (01:19:17):
That was my guest under Jones rebounds interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:19:20):
Yeah, I like your uh, your thought on that. Anything
else you want to throw out there, I got another
w NBA anything for you, cracker.

Speaker 1 (01:19:28):
And I was saving something for the end of the show,
but you're right, they they actually made move here. So
let me give you one. Boy. Can I say this person,
this is like a Krackenberger name here on Seattle and
the WNB A beg Yeah girl, all right, mag yeah
over sixteen and a half. There you go, there's one.
I'm gonna give it the end of the show. Let's

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give it out now. So yeah, I love that mag
beggar beggar burger beggar over points rebounds sixteen and a half.
And I'll have another one. I'll have another one later on,
but that one for right now?

Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
Like it?

Speaker 1 (01:20:02):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
All right, Ezzie going with the with Essie right there,
as he's a lot easier than her last name. All right,
coming up neck, there is a crazy stat in the NFL.
We will throw your way. Oh what is going on?
Happy Sunday to you. I hope your day is going
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we have the video stream going. How about this? How
about this Masters polo over here? The K Man got
me beautiful by him?

Speaker 1 (01:21:00):
Love it? Thanks very happy from the Masters. Yeah, Jeff Jeff,
I got you one, You got one one. They say
you're coming in right, Jeff, to get July July, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:21:10):
In July, yeah, Big ten, Big ten Media Days, and
then Backstreet Boys. I think Friday night at this field.

Speaker 1 (01:21:15):
Tell anyone else that you know, we're not We're not
a nationwide or anything.

Speaker 3 (01:21:20):
The I mean, I don't care people. I mean like
I go on vacation, and I mean, that is what
it is. So the Backstreet Boys think. My wife the
other day was like, I don't know if I want
to pay that much money for Backstreet Boys, I might
it might be we might be out on that. It's

(01:21:41):
like you know, and bucks for a good ticket. I
think it might be out.

Speaker 1 (01:21:43):
Wow, I don't know, you have to wait till the
day of the show. I've gotten literally first row rolling
Stone tickets for for you know, almost cost day of
the show. So day at the show, you might be
able to get it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:55):
Yeah, but I don't think it's gonna fly out if
I just say maybe the show, like, I mean, I
don't know how much she enjoys me at Big ten
Media Day while she sits at the pool.

Speaker 4 (01:22:04):
I mean, maybe she enjoys that, but uh, you know,
she did.

Speaker 3 (01:22:07):
She just out there for e DC, She's not for
the Crazy Carnival, and she very much enjoyed it. I
think that was she has a big milestone birthday coming
up in a couple of weeks, and I think the
EDC experience was like the last of like I think
she gets like you get a little up there and
it's a little too much now. It was her last

(01:22:28):
hurrah of like we're doing it like that for she
only made it one night because the second night, Saturday,
the wind was too high to take her to take
the helicopters out. So she only made it one night
on Friday night. But you had a great time. But Saturday,
just the helicopters there was too windy to go out,
so no one could go out if you were if
you went out there in a helicopter.

Speaker 1 (01:22:49):
Because get us all the candles on the cake, too
many candles on the cake.

Speaker 4 (01:22:53):
I mean, either you take like a two hour drive
to you know, to you know too to.

Speaker 1 (01:23:01):
The two hours traffic crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:23:05):
From from the strip to to the to the race
track crazy, or you take the helicopter. So those are
the choices you have.

Speaker 4 (01:23:11):
There.

Speaker 2 (01:23:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah went there, Yeah, she went yeah. She
went h her cousins, her friends got her a ticket.
Like these tickets are insanely expensive. I think it's cheaper
to go to the Masters than it is E.

Speaker 1 (01:23:27):
D C.

Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
You know, it's crazy. But she she went a couple
of nights, and you're right about the wind. The wind.
One of the nights was in Saturday.

Speaker 3 (01:23:36):
Yeah, Saturday.

Speaker 2 (01:23:37):
But they don't you're just going, Hey, they're like two
artists there. We're gonna see it's gonna wrap up around midnight. No,
it's like all day, all night. It's you know, you're
just going and uh, yeah, she went there a couple
of nights. She enjoyed it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:54):
So, by the way, there's a do you sneak out
to the craft table? You she got the night away
you can play your upple craps by yourself or just
go to sleep.

Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
That's what I woul just they just hung out. You know,
I've watched sports hung out. There was nothing major going
on at that time.

Speaker 1 (01:24:13):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:24:14):
That's probably just firing away on those By the way,
we got a tweet here, I like this from Daniel.
He tweets it and says about countdown, y'all should have
a segment where you all start with like one hundred dollars,
and we follow how much you guys are up and down.
You guys throw out so many picks that it's nearly
impossible to keep up with who's hot and cold, et cetera.

(01:24:35):
Could be fun. Just go like, yeah, saw double saw
certain picks. Be like crack, he started with one hundred,
He's up three thousand dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:24:46):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
Meanwhile, I went all in and lost my first wager.
I don't know, it would be something ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (01:24:51):
I'll put one hundred on the Mets minus four hundred today.
Just make forty bucks quickly, Crack. No heart attack from crack. Yeah,
all right.

Speaker 2 (01:25:09):
So there's a there's an NFL stat that is wild
blows my mind. And you guys will love this because
you can attach it to so many things in the
betting market. So I'll give you the stat and we'll
attach it to stuff. So each of the past ten
seasons has included at least one team that drafts in
the top eight and then goes on to make the

(01:25:31):
playoffs the same year. So think about that. So if
you look at the teams that drafted in the top
eight over the last ten years, one of those teams
has made it to the playoffs, so you can start
thinking season win total odds, do they make the playoffs,
those type of odds. All of those type of things
are live here. So a lout of these eight teams,

(01:25:51):
who do you like the most? Right, You've got just
an order of when they drafted Titans, Jags, Giants, Patriots, Brown's, Raiders, Jets, Panthers.
Out of all those who do you like?

Speaker 3 (01:26:04):
Well, I have one that I like. Those that I
have the Panthers, you do, yeah, yeah, I think when
you look at the way they finished last season, you
have to like they won three last eight games or
four and the last nine games it was four the last
nine games. You know, they were very close with the

(01:26:25):
Chiefs and the Eagles, and sometimes you have to lose
those games small before you win them small.

Speaker 1 (01:26:31):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:26:32):
Yeah, Bryce Young made a big improvement the end of
the season, and I just think their roster has got
a lot better. They've done a really good job of Hey,
we got attack the defense, right. The defense is a
problem last season, fregency. Let's attack the defense. Let's get
Bryce Young another weapon in McMillan. Let's go defensive pass rush,
for the next two draft picks. I like what the

(01:26:52):
Panthers have done, and they're also in division that isn't great,
right Atlanta. Everyone's high on them, but they're the Falcons.
We don't know much about pen X right now. It
didn't like the Falcons draft. The Saints are terrible and
the Bucks are good not great.

Speaker 1 (01:27:04):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:27:04):
The Panthers lost to them member in overtime on a
fumble I think Brooks fumbled the ball or where the
runnacks fumbled the ball there at the end. Oh, they
had had that game, so I remember they had the
Eagles game until they dropped the pass logat dropped that
pass Chiefs game. The Chiefs game was twenty seven to
twenty seven to the fourth quarter. Chiefs were up fourteen
a half time. So it wasn't like it. You know,

(01:27:25):
the Chiefs kind of fell asleep there a little bit.
So nonetheless, to me, it's the Panthers those top seven,
because you look, the Titans aren't there yet. The Giants
not know Patriots in my mind, tough division, No Jets, No,
I mean the Panthers stick out to me as the
team that has the realistic chance to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:27:42):
Yeah, this is a wild stat to see a good
pull on this one, Brian. I think out of these
teams listed, I would say New England, the Jets, and
Vegas that lest had the best chances. People are really
high on the Patriots, I mean a season wins eight
and a half for second year quarterback Drake May getting
a lot of praise. Huh. I don't know the Raiders

(01:28:05):
and Jets. You have two new quarterbacks taken over. Raiders
will look totally different this year with Pete Garrell, Carol
Gino Smith and the rookie there astroon genty boys. It's
an interesting subject, it really is. And like I said,
good pull, guys, I tell you it's off subject. Well

(01:28:25):
it's not a subject left. But the last segment we
had on someone said I had a comment here. It says, crack.
You don't know how to pronounce the players' names, but
yet you're betting on them. Well, let me just tell
you something. I don't want to tell you how much
money I have made, life changing money in my life
I have made, not even knowing anything about the players.

(01:28:49):
Or I don't want, I don't care. I don't you
know that this has nothing to do with making sure
the I remember I did a show on Showtime Action
on Showtime docuseriies four parts and I made a comment
and people went crazy on me. I said, listen, I
can't name fifteen I think I said fifteen players, but
fifteen starting quarterbacks in the NFL. But I know one thing.

(01:29:11):
I want to bet a lot of money betting for
or against them, and I'll stick to that. I don't
have to know the names perfectly. It doesn't that especially
w NBA, like I said, life changing money being banned
by thousands of book makers, lifetime betting on NBA, WNBA,
NFL cocky props, I mean everything.

Speaker 3 (01:29:31):
So all right, Buddy, good for you. I like that show. Actually,
you and Vegas Dave are like famous now you know
you for yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:29:40):
Shouldn't put me in the same line subject.

Speaker 4 (01:29:45):
That was a that was That was a fun show.

Speaker 1 (01:29:48):
But a pretty pretty wild show though. I just you know,
they wanted me like, oh crack, can you please go
to the counter with one hundred thousand dollars? No, No,
that's not what I do. Do you see me driving
a fancy car? Do you see me having go old
jewelry and cool sunglasses and all different girls around? No? No,
I'm chill chitor there no, no, there's no change, no good.

(01:30:11):
I'm real. I'm doing real things and grinding away at
two three four percent. This is not just to make
to get players to I mean to get people just
to send me money or that kind. It's no. This
is blood and guts here. There's blood on the line.
You know. People ask me. I did on my Descent
show the other day. Someone asked me, you know, Bill,
what would you think about this for your children? Guess what.

(01:30:34):
I wouldn't want my kids to bet sports, even though
I would teach them the best way mathematically, algorithm, you know, analytics. No,
I really wouldn't want my kids to even gamble. I
know what the human condition is. I know what we're
made up of. I know what skill set you need.
I know what closet gambling is. I know what it

(01:30:57):
takes to be successful. And then when you are six,
scussful getting banned by the sports books, thrown out of casinos,
backed off of blackjack, backed off of different casinos for
using your brain, not for doing anything illegal, just for
using your brain. All right, I've said enough.

Speaker 3 (01:31:12):
I it's Whatnny mentioned. I don't think my son has
a personality to gamble. I mean, I'm pretty safe there
and my daughter just won't do it.

Speaker 4 (01:31:21):
I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (01:31:22):
I think. I think.

Speaker 4 (01:31:22):
I think I'm okay crack.

Speaker 3 (01:31:23):
They I keep it very away from them, like they
they don't really they know I do it, but like not.

Speaker 4 (01:31:30):
I don't talk about it in front of them.

Speaker 1 (01:31:31):
Ever.

Speaker 3 (01:31:32):
I don't know why it would my wife. I don't
talk about it in front of any of them. Even
though Chanell Boxers showed up at the house the other day.
I might have to put some more money on these
these w b A props.

Speaker 1 (01:31:40):
Guys. There you go this about your dad brother, Did
you guys have even you Brian, Did you guys have
father figures or it was gambling every part of your
life growing up or not? Really? No?

Speaker 3 (01:31:52):
So my so my my my grandfather on my mom's side.
So my mom's dad passed away before I was born,
and he bet on ponies every day.

Speaker 4 (01:32:03):
She told me, every day he bet on ponies.

Speaker 3 (01:32:05):
And so that that was sort of like my mom
has always said that my grandfather would have been very
happy with my career choice post playing career, because he
would have loved and listening to me talk about gambling,
but she saw sort of soft firsthand kind of the
issues that come with gambling on ponies every day. So
she's actually again she's funny. My mom, of course very

(01:32:27):
much supports what I do for a living and my career,
but I think she's against the gambling just from her
experience with seeing her dad. Her dad do that.

Speaker 4 (01:32:35):
But ponies, men like are are hard like that.

Speaker 1 (01:32:41):
Yeah, it's like ten times more of a hole than sports.

Speaker 3 (01:32:44):
Yeah. And look I say this all the time, right,
like you only gamble the amount your ford.

Speaker 4 (01:32:50):
Brian. I have talked about this the last couple of weeks.

Speaker 3 (01:32:51):
I had a rough stretch for like ten days in
early May, and I'm doing I do my spreadsheet. It's
it's a bloodbath at end of April early May. I'm
doing better now. But I just manage. You manage your
bank roll to where it doesn't affect your life at all.
Like that, That's what it is. Yeah, if you if
you're like cracking, you make a living out of this
good good luck. I mean, obviously there are people that

(01:33:11):
do that. But I try to win every wager I make.
I don't make wagers to lose, but I also do
it to where you know, it's not gonna change my
life because I don't the fear of losing money, like
the fear like working three hours today and then losing
all this money gambling on sports today. It just like
drives me crazy, like you know. So, I mean, like
so that that there's a there's a you have to

(01:33:33):
figure out what works for you, and part of it.
I just don't talk about it with my family because
my wife doesn't know. It's not like it's I'm withdrawing
ten thousand dollars out of my account. My wife sees it,
you know what I mean, Like, it's just that's not
the way I gamble.

Speaker 1 (01:33:45):
So Jeff didn't though, did you no way? May? No May?

Speaker 3 (01:33:50):
I didn't, but I start April was bad. It's April was.
April was a rough one. May was a lot better.

Speaker 1 (01:33:57):
Well, April was a rough monthly right, Early May pretty
good on something.

Speaker 3 (01:34:03):
Early May was bad. Hockey's been good the last like
three weeks. I got I'd be honest, I got it.
I started betting hockey this year because I was doing
a show on v SIN and we had a hockey
guy on. I got really interested in it. I got
kind of into it. I got I got a.

Speaker 4 (01:34:16):
Little too much. It was a little too much hockey.

Speaker 3 (01:34:17):
No, that was a lot of my losses in in
April was hockey, and I probably should not do that
again next year. It's why keeping a track of your wage.
I know Brian does as well, Crack does I do.
It's good to keep track of what you're doing so
you realize, like, yeah, I probably not gonna do that
next year.

Speaker 1 (01:34:32):
Brian, What about you?

Speaker 2 (01:34:34):
What's that?

Speaker 1 (01:34:35):
Your your family?

Speaker 2 (01:34:36):
Oh fan, No, no, your brothers.

Speaker 1 (01:34:39):
You grew up in an area that could have been
gambling there, you know, so.

Speaker 2 (01:34:42):
Oh absolutely, I know.

Speaker 1 (01:34:44):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:34:44):
My dad's brother, Russ, was a gambler, but he passed
away when I was very very young, so I didn't
know him. But my dad would tell me stories here
and there. But no, nothing like it wasn't a daily part.
I don't know that my day had ever did it.
You know, maybe like with friends at work, but nothing,

(01:35:04):
you know, nothing professionally or anything like that. So yeah, no,
it was, Uh, this really just something that I got
into a while back. But I'm curious though, going back
to the crazy NFL stat Ye, yeah, a team that
drafts in the top eight. Uh, one of those teams
goes on to make the playoffs the same year. It's

(01:35:26):
happened in the last each of the last ten years.
I'm surprised on your Patriots take, Jeff, You're not high
on the Patriots at all, right, Like.

Speaker 3 (01:35:34):
I think, I think eight and a half feels like
a lot when you still have question marks about some
of their team. I think Drake May is going to
be really good. I think he showed that, but I'm
still questioning their wide receivers. I mean, so you know,
their number one wide receivers supposedly was seen, you know,

(01:35:54):
on video with a substance that's probably not legal the
National Football League.

Speaker 2 (01:35:58):
He wasn't taking the NFL, no no comment.

Speaker 3 (01:36:01):
They're like, yeah, well he I mean, look, he wasn't
taking the substance at the time. You know, if you can't,
I don't do anything about that. But they're not great
decision making. I mean it looks they're wide receivers Stefon Diggs,
Mac Collins, the Mario Douglas. They drafted obviously Polk last year,
who can't catch the ball, but he's a good like
you know, Kendrick Born. It's just not a great offensive

(01:36:23):
line is better with Will Campbell, but you know, it's
still some question marks there, Like I like the Trevon
Hntererson draft pick, and the defense is gonna be good.
But you know, you play in a division where you
know you have Buffalo of course, and you have a
Miami team that depends on Timmy Hear you play them
that you know what they're gonna get from them.

Speaker 4 (01:36:38):
I just I think it's a.

Speaker 3 (01:36:40):
Lot for a team we just don't know yet to
win nine games.

Speaker 2 (01:36:46):
You know, there's it's I'm not saying the Patriots are
gonna be in the AFC title game. Just make sure
you don't lose that point, Okay, but it's funny to
compare the Patriots to the Wall Washington Commanders. Now we know,
let's start off as be obvious. Drake May is not
going to be as productive as Jaden Daniels this season.

(01:37:07):
Jayden Daniels is a rock star. Drake May showed promise
last year. I think he's gonna be a good NFL quarterback,
but I'm not expecting a Daniels like production line from him,
So keep that in mind. But I'm not saying they're
gonna get to the AFC title game. But just keep
in mind these comparisons when we're thinking about the Patriots
in the playoffs. Okay, that's the whole point of this.
If you look at Washington, they were a four win

(01:37:29):
team two years ago. They made a lot of noise
in free agency, picked up a lot of dudes, and
then they ended up having a rock star quarterback and
they won twelve games, made it to the NFC title game.
So you look at the Patriots coming off a four
win season last year, right, same amount, a lot of
noise in free agency, picked up a lot of players

(01:37:50):
that I think will help them out. And then also,
what's even crazier, you look at the the Washington schedule
last season. They played the AFC North. Yeah, and the
NFC South. NFC South is favorable AFC North top to bottom,
pretty tough. It's exactly who the Patriots played this season.
It's kind of weird how there are some similarities between

(01:38:12):
the two teams, and as far as making the playoffs,
a couple of things that I think you could tie
together with Washington as an interesting parallel right there. But
I think they could have a good year.

Speaker 3 (01:38:24):
I think you just make sure we heard that right,
Crack says, and that crack. Brian says that the Patriots
called answer championship game. So that's that's what I heard.

Speaker 2 (01:38:34):
No, no, no, no, you misheard me, right.

Speaker 3 (01:38:35):
Yeah, the Commanders, guys, I think we even undersell they
won fourteen games last season, including the playoffs. Of course,
it was legitimately a really good football team. I don't
think we give them the credit for being that good.
You know they were. They were good and obviously you
know they ran into the Eagles and in their division
and that happens. I mean, Eagles were just like a juggernaut.

(01:38:59):
I think what's fun about this season for me so
far as like, is just looking at the NFC, right,
who is who's taking down the Eagles?

Speaker 1 (01:39:07):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:39:08):
I think there's a lot of for me, just a
lot of questions on who that would be. I haven't
made a wager on that yet. I don't know what
team I would feel comfortable with saying, hey man, this
team I'm ben to win the NFC. It feels like
a lot of great options.

Speaker 2 (01:39:23):
Right now, I hear you. I just think to wear
and tear just the season itself, just the game of
football itself. You know, it might get in the Eagles way.

Speaker 3 (01:39:33):
Eagles yet either, But I just don't know which team
I feel comfortable.

Speaker 4 (01:39:37):
Probably the Rams right now.

Speaker 2 (01:39:39):
Lions, Yeah, they're gonna be blessed with better health.

Speaker 3 (01:39:43):
That's a huge part of the NFL. Right the next
year you get, you get healthy, but they lose both coordinators.
Is that a concern for you at all?

Speaker 2 (01:39:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:39:49):
Absolutely, I'm curious about the Lions, and the Lions feel
like a good option there of course.

Speaker 1 (01:39:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:39:54):
Now they're gonna be tough. I think you're gonna be
a really tough out.

Speaker 1 (01:39:57):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:39:57):
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you'll see the show posted right after we get off
the air. Okay, what I'm gonna do, I'm gonna give
you a mini ranty. We're gonna hand it off to
I Low for a second, and then we will get
to the a la carte menu because I know how
long winded all of us are, and so if we
dive into that, I Loo is not gonna be able
to do his update until Tuesday, you know. So here's
my mini rant. First. Okay, the SGA free throw merchant

(01:41:28):
stuff is so stupid. There are a lot of people
are complaining because SGA does a great job of drawing
fouls and getting to the free throw line. And listen,
I can understand if that's not your cup of tea,
that's fine, But to just crush the guy, why would
he not draw files and go to the free throw line.
He would not be doing his job if he can

(01:41:49):
do that on the regular and just chose not to
because it's an unpopular brand of basketball. It's just such
a silly criticism. It reminds me you're a fight fan, crack.
It reminds me of people criticising Floyd Mayweather Junior for
not being a knockout artist. It's like, the goal is
to win, right, It's not to score knockouts. So oh
money may never knock so he what it's like. He's winning.

(01:42:12):
All he does is win. He's never lost, like, and
you're hammering him. It's just so stupid.

Speaker 1 (01:42:17):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:42:17):
If SGA can get on get to the free throw
line time and time and time again, he'd be out
of his mind not to do that, and to just
rage against that is such a waste of time. It
drives me crazy. I hate it. I hate the complaining
more than the style of basketball. Put it that way.

Speaker 3 (01:42:33):
I think it's a lot to do with just the flopping.
I actually think Jalen Brunson's style of play foul Merchant
is worse, where he will be dribbling and be in
front of a defender and then back up into the
defender to get the call. I find that aesthetically less
pleasing to watch an SGA who does flop a little.
It's a flopping right right. It's like the oh, like

(01:42:55):
you're like, you know, we didn't even get touched. The
times doesn't even get touched and he's flopping. But yeah,
of course they're gonna call it, go for it, the
brunts and thing frustrating because you've been the defender. Just
go shoot the ball, like, go, go make your layup,
go get But he backs into the guy and it's
that that to me is worse.

Speaker 1 (01:43:13):
Yeah, yeah, no, no question. I agree these criticisms are stupid.
SGA is the m v P and one of the
most elite scores that we've ever seen. So part of
scoring is finding ways to get to the free throw line.
It's really an art of the game. Top scorer in
NBA history has always been able to get teams to
foul them, look at Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant. Overall, I'd

(01:43:35):
like NBA games to be more physical and less foul called.
But it is what it is. There we go. Well.

Speaker 2 (01:43:42):
I always throw out the the homer slash hater test,
right if you're you know your your emotions are involved here.
It's a good test to find out if you're being
a homer or a hater. So for anyone who's criticizing SGA,
you gotta bust out the hater test. Would you be
reacting the same way if your favorite player on your

(01:44:06):
favorite team was getting to the free throw line the
exact same way, there is zero chance you would have
that much of a problem with it, which shows you
just being an hater. When it comes to SGA getting
to the free throw line all the time, that's really all.

Speaker 3 (01:44:18):
Which again is like the being hater AD's part of sports.
I get it, but there also is are to to
it's just a flop pick. I think if he was
getting the line just to say, but you know, getting
foul what he is, but just didn't flop so much,
there wouldn't be such a discussion about it.

Speaker 2 (01:44:32):
I think if he wasn't an MVP and Okay, see,
didn't win sixty eight games, it'd be a non story.

Speaker 4 (01:44:39):
You know, yeah, that's right, you know, yeah, of course.

Speaker 2 (01:44:42):
Yeah, yeah, they're so good. Puts it under the microscope.
He even mentioned it. It's like there have been years
I've gotten to the free throw line more and no
one said anything. Now it's a big deal. So it's
because they're so successful. It's the way it goes, all right.
Speaking of success, man, this is a segue that rights itself.
The ultramate ultimate eccess story in America would be Isaac

(01:45:02):
Loewen Pride. He's got another update for you. What's going on?

Speaker 7 (01:45:04):
I low what a country?

Speaker 6 (01:45:06):
Indeed, And by the way, Brian knows mini rant there
was brought to you by Hershey's Minies, the classic milk
chocolate candy bars in miniature form. Member FDI C say,
I got you an endorsement deal there, Brian, Wow, thank you.

Speaker 7 (01:45:19):
Check is in the mail.

Speaker 6 (01:45:21):
Also in the mail the Indiana Pacers Eastern Conference Championship
and their ticket to the NBA Finals because in Game
six on Saturday night, they defeated the New York Knicks
one twenty five to one, a way to take the
series four games to two in advance to the NBA
Finals for the first time in twenty five years. Pascal
Siakam scored thirty one He was named series MVP. Tyrese

(01:45:42):
Halliburton twenty one points and thirteen assists. Thursday night, it'll
be the Indiana Pacers at the Oklahoma City Thunder in
Game one of the NBA Finals that you won't be
watching in Major.

Speaker 7 (01:45:54):
League paid fall.

Speaker 6 (01:45:55):
On Saturday night, the Los Angeles Dodgers defeated the New
York Yankees eighteen to two. Next Monthsey two home runs
he finished with seven rbi. Aaron Judge at two home
runs for the Yankees. He and how Is twenty one
this season, Mariners over the Twins at eleven and things
five to four, Seattle's Cole Young but game winning fielder's
choice in the bottom of the eleventh in his major
league debut, and the Mariners Cal Rawley is twenty second

(01:46:17):
home run, tying show Hey Otani from the major league lead. Finally,
and golf Scottie Scheffler at eight under par overalls and
one shot lead going into the final round of the Memorial.
He'll tee off the final round today at two oh five.
Eastern Guys back to you.

Speaker 2 (01:46:32):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:46:32):
Ilo.

Speaker 2 (01:46:33):
It is Fox Sports Radios Countdown presented by MGM that
flows succinctly into the a la carte menu. Al Right,
so think of this as a buffet, all right, Like, Jeff,
you're in line for the buffet. You can put anything
you want on your plate. But picture Crack and me
in line behind you, and we're hungry. We want to
eat as well, right, so you have limited time to

(01:46:55):
hit on whatever you want to hit on here. So
on the a la carte menu, maybe NFL, the Eagles
are trading defensive end Bryce Huff to the Niners. Maybe
you want to hit on that. My Dolphins are kicking
around the idea of trading their only pro bowler from
last year, Titan John Nehu Smith to the Steelers. Alo
just mentioned Scotti Scheffler in the lead again. How many

(01:47:17):
more tournaments is this guy gonna win this year? College baseball? Jeff,
you got the futures market, you got the controversial call
in an Oregon Ducks game? Do we get to that house?

Speaker 3 (01:47:29):
Are you?

Speaker 1 (01:47:30):
Are you?

Speaker 4 (01:47:30):
Are you well versed on this yet? Have you have
you seen the have you seen.

Speaker 2 (01:47:33):
That playing the play?

Speaker 1 (01:47:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:47:34):
Absolutely?

Speaker 3 (01:47:34):
Okay, So here's what I don't understand about. Okay, so
here's here's my repay review rant, brought to you by
Jeff Schwartz. Repay review to me, the intent of it, right,
and the purpose is to a overcall or overturn orgregious
eras that are made. We far too often use it
for minuscule eras that are made. And b you have

(01:47:54):
to have you know, indisputable video is to overturn the
call in the field. Right, That's part of what review
and reviewers turned in now to just whatever you want
it to be at any single time. So for those
who missed the Organ game, they're down six to four,
they weren't playing very well to Utah Valley this first
and third, no outs, they're down six to four. There

(01:48:16):
is a ball hit to left field is caught. There's
a plate at to plate. I think the obstruction rule
in college sports is a little bs So the destruction
rule basically is you cannot block the path of a
runner at any base. It's basically buster or posy rule.
When he got trucked in twenty eleven, got run over,
broke his leg. They have now said catchers, it's a
little harsher in college sports and professional sports cannot catchers.

(01:48:40):
It's most about catchers cannot be blocking a path to
home plate till they have the ball in their possession.
I think the rule often gets used way too much.
When guys are out by a mile, they hit the
catcher and it's like obstruction and you're like, you're seven
steps away, you are out, okay. In this case, catcher

(01:49:00):
for Utah Valley was over the plate the entire time.

Speaker 2 (01:49:04):
Yes, the entire time.

Speaker 3 (01:49:05):
There's no there's no debate. He was over the plate
the entire time. He never had possession of the ball,
not one time. The ball hit the turf, bounced up
off his glove. And then as because he's in front
of the plate like he was in front of the
plate like in the other batter's box in the left
hand batter's box, the runner attempted to slide ran into
him without he didn't have the ball, mind you, and

(01:49:27):
he was saying ruled safe.

Speaker 4 (01:49:28):
They reviewed it and said he was.

Speaker 3 (01:49:30):
Ejected for malicious contact and there was no obstruction. So
every baseball person saw that play and was like, that's wrong.
I couldn't find one baseball person. Of course, you Washington
fans and USC right in my mention, one baseball person
and heon covers the sport who thought that was the

(01:49:52):
right call. A it was obstruction and b you know
he ran into him as in his slide because the
catcher was four feet in front of home plate. And
you know I see this in this idea of like,
well he didn't, he didn't he slid too late. No
he didn't. If you look at the video and the pictures,
he's outside the left handed batter's box attempting to slide, Brian,
and yes, he collided with the catcher who didn't have

(01:50:14):
the baseball, didn't have the ball, the ball was behind
him because he missed it. So I just like that
to me is not review. Is for review, is not
to look at that play and throw out the organ
player for malicious contact.

Speaker 4 (01:50:29):
And Organ played poorly anyways.

Speaker 3 (01:50:31):
They lost by one run, though I guess what that
run run would have been that run right there, So
I just thought it was bad.

Speaker 4 (01:50:37):
I thought it was a bad.

Speaker 3 (01:50:38):
Process to get to a point where A they put
the obstruction rules on the and I guess in the
end they're saying that malicious contact over rules the obstruction,
but the obstruction the contact only happened because of the obstruction.

Speaker 2 (01:50:51):
So that which is it?

Speaker 3 (01:50:53):
So I can't say if you're.

Speaker 2 (01:50:56):
In front of my path to the plate, then all
bets are off. I don't want to hear about there
was a malicious contact. It's like you shouldn't have been there.
If you weren't there, there's nothing, there's no one to
run into. I don't know how they could say that
wasn't an obstruction.

Speaker 1 (01:51:11):
Crack.

Speaker 2 (01:51:11):
Okay, you want to hit on that or anything else
on the alta, but let's uh.

Speaker 1 (01:51:16):
I'll start with the college baseball, like I've had a
good start betting these games so far. I focus more
on the totals here, but looking at the occasional side,
there's also some great games to watch usually, so you
get some baseball playoff atmosphere with THECA kids that play
with real heart and real passion. I have to say
to going to WNBA, I've been pretty successful year this

(01:51:39):
year so far with the w NBA props. Also, I
know Jeff has done well betting the w NBA live
and I don't watch these games though, but if you
plan on betting live, one need to be watching the games.
So going over to the over to the PGA. Yeah, Scheffler, boy,

(01:52:01):
God to put it plumply. I guess he really can
win every single tournament. He's gonna be plus five to
one or less of a favorite in every one.

Speaker 4 (01:52:11):
To like three to one.

Speaker 1 (01:52:13):
We just haven't seen this since private since something really
since Tiger Woods in his prime. He's just playing at
a level now that is better than everyone else and
has the confidence going for him. Uh it is. It's fun,
fun stuff to watch, good subject matter, good job. You know.

Speaker 2 (01:52:29):
I have to hit on my Dolphins. My gosh, it
wasn't that long ago. They were pretty good. It's not
the of course, it's not the space they're in right now.
It's a fire sale with getting rid of players. So
John new Smith was their only pro bowler last year.
It was a fantastic tight end. Put up numbers almost

(01:52:50):
ninety catches, nearly nine hundred yards. Those are huge numbers
for a tight end. He had eight touchdown catches.

Speaker 3 (01:52:56):
Yeah, and we and he may looked dumb.

Speaker 2 (01:52:59):
He had a really good season and he's due to
make four point eight million dollars. He wants a reworked
contract right coming off a Pro Bowl year, and the
Dolphins are like, whoa whoa you want more than five
million dollars. Yikes, we got to trade this guy. And
that's listen. I like Tua, I don't love him because
he's banged up all the time and he doesn't produce

(01:53:20):
on a level that's comparable to his pay. And this
is the downside of overpaying a good quarterback, even a
good quarterback where you're only pro bowler. You're like, yeah,
we gotta think about trading this freaking guy. You know,
he's making four point eight million dollars. It's insanity, but
that's the way it is. You got a skimp at

(01:53:40):
a lot of spots. And that is the pain and
misery that Niners fans will soon feel with overpaying brock Perdy,
who's good but not a difference maker. He's not special
and you're paying him special money.

Speaker 3 (01:53:53):
So I wonder, from the Steelers perspective, like the point
of this too, what you need another tight ends? Does
he play? Yeah, it's he. So I'm one of the
topic you didn't bring up quickly. I don't think I
got like two minutes here. Okay, well maybe I don't.
But Aaron Rodgers is going to be a Steeler, but
there's something he has to deal with beforehand that he

(01:54:15):
can't be a Steeler. Every other starting quarterback is in
the in the National FOOTBA League, is in their building
right now, with also has things to deal with in
their personal life. So I'm kind of tired of this
bs of Rogers doing things differently and it being excused.
If you want to be a Steeler, he be in
the building. It's that simple. Every other quarterback is in
the building who also has personal things to deal with

(01:54:37):
as well.

Speaker 2 (01:54:38):
Yeah, well, Rogers has to deal with the disease of me.
That's what he's really dealing with. It's my time, it's
what's convenient for me. It's like, bro, come on, man,
Like you said, Jeff, every quarterback is dealing with something,
and there's no way that you can convince me that
Aaron Rodgers couldn't be with his team right now. He's
just choosing not to be great. That's all it is.

Speaker 1 (01:55:00):
Are you sick?

Speaker 2 (01:55:02):
Yeah? All right, there you go the first installment of
the a la carte menu. I thought that was good. Right,
you get enough to eat?

Speaker 1 (01:55:07):
Guys?

Speaker 3 (01:55:08):
You good, I'm good?

Speaker 2 (01:55:09):
Yeah, good, very nice. All right, We've got Bill Krackenberger,
professional sports handicapper, Jeff Schwartz, eight year NFL veteran, I'm
Brian No. Coming up next Rapid Fire will which have
some selections for you. Crack will have his play in
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(01:56:14):
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Keep it locked right here on Fox Sports Radio. All right,
we got some picks to make. Let's do it.

Speaker 3 (01:56:26):
Rapid fire.

Speaker 2 (01:56:28):
All right, crack, we start with you with something you like.

Speaker 1 (01:56:31):
All right. I'm over on the bed MGM site. I'm
gonna have a few plays more than I'm gonna have
a couple couple more plays than normal. Here. I'm gonna
give you two right now, and I'll come back and
give you a really good one. Let's give you two.
Let's give you two. College baseball totals over these bolts
start in nine minutes for everybody. Oh wow, Clemson over

(01:56:51):
twelve and a half MGMs twelve and a half minus
fifteen on that one, and the second one is gonna
be Florida ECU over forts both available on bet MGM.
I'm gonna come back within w NBA prop here in
a minute.

Speaker 3 (01:57:06):
I love it, right, I love it. I have I
haven't mets over five and a half runs four and
a half for the Parlags. I can do that over five
and a half against the Rockies today. I like Brianna
Stewart over seventeen and a half points. I like the
Collier over twenty two and a half points in a
couple of WNBA games for today, and I'm gonna I'm
not gonna probably give you all the teams, but I

(01:57:26):
Crack's not gonna like this. I do have a money
line parlay in college baseball today for some of these
favorites that lost last night that have to win to survive,
like the one seed, the two seed. I saw, cracks
face not very good. I'll put the Mets in there. Crack,
You're not gonna like it. But Vanderbilt Vannabelt the one seed.
I don't think they're gonna lose it. I mean they
could lose today, Texas the three seed. I mean it, Tony,

(01:57:48):
but's college baseball.

Speaker 4 (01:57:49):
It's weird.

Speaker 3 (01:57:49):
But I like the favorites at least win the first
game today avoid elimination.

Speaker 2 (01:57:54):
Okay, all right, I'm gonna give you the Phoenix Mercury
plus five and a half. I'm just not laying five
and a half points with the l A Sparks not
doing it. The line is moving in the Sparks favor.
That's fine. I'll fade the steam over here. I'll take
the five and a half. The Commissioner's cups pride on
the line over here. It's not too Sobbly gonna do
her thing. So give me the Phoenix Mercury plus five

(01:58:16):
and a half against the Sparks. The Sparks got bonus
plays anybody. That's what I'm saying, Like, I'm not laying
five and a half.

Speaker 3 (01:58:26):
By the way, if you want another prop. I hate
doing all these overs. She did not score as well
last game. I think the score a bunch again today.

Speaker 2 (01:58:34):
I was at that game, Jeff.

Speaker 4 (01:58:36):
Yeah, I told you it was.

Speaker 1 (01:58:37):
I was.

Speaker 3 (01:58:38):
I had some money on it. Yeah that was That
was fine, Crack. I told him I'm betting on the asis.
He goes, I'm going to go to the game.

Speaker 1 (01:58:43):
Now, wow, that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:58:46):
Yeah, we were there the other night. You got uh
did you say, have bonus plays or anything.

Speaker 1 (01:58:51):
Practically anything else you want?

Speaker 2 (01:58:53):
Oh, you got your your play the day. Right, let's
get to this Cracks play of the day. Here we go.

Speaker 5 (01:59:00):
It's the best play of the day.

Speaker 2 (01:59:02):
The man, All right, Crack, what do you have for
I'll put.

Speaker 1 (01:59:05):
All freedom and rated the same level for me. So
the two baseball A college baseball overs that I gave,
I'll also give you a Natasha Cloud over on a
New York liberty over her points over nine and a
half minus thirty. Boy, I have evolved. I would imagine
I'm giving out three overs. I was, you know, seventy
five percent underplayer on everything. But I've evolved with the

(01:59:28):
analytics and the sport itself and the people I respect
to handicap a lot of handicappers, and uh yeah they
say over, I say over, Away we go.

Speaker 2 (01:59:37):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (01:59:38):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:59:38):
You gotta evolve, you know, got to evolve. If you
didn't let the game by, yeah, you'd be losing more
than winning. You can't have that. You gotta be in
the black.

Speaker 1 (01:59:47):
Even though we don't have the big playoff NBA playoff
game today, we've got some stuff to do.

Speaker 2 (01:59:51):
Yeah, we got stuff going on here.

Speaker 1 (01:59:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:59:53):
So fun hanging with you guys. As always, again, thank
you for the Master's polo crack. You're the man. Everybody,
have a great enjoy whatever you're watching and doing.

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