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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio radio. Oh what is
going on? Happy Sunday to you. I hope your day
is off to a fantastic start. A good morning, Crack,
Good morning Jeff. Everything good with you, guys?

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Yeah, yeah, you know. I'm uh as we sit here,
I had the little action in this morning. Guys. All
the golfers they're playing right nowt Okemon, all the early ones,
as many as I could find they were offered. I
took the round over guys. I mean this like they're there.
Might they're plus twenty one to start the day. I

(00:33):
kind of I think they're gonna hit seventy three and
a half over on their around. As I turn on
right now, there's multiple guys in the thick rough. So
that's all'll be watching this morning. And I don't know
about you, guys, I don't know how you feel. Crack,
Brian knows how I feel about this recently. But at
some point I gotta start getting lucky. I don't know
what's gonna happen. I don't know what's gonna happen, guys,

(00:56):
but wow, I've had some uh some rough patches. Crack
and NBA Finals beating it out of me. I think
I think I'm going to rescind to what I told
Brian and that I've done a wager in the NBA Finals.
But Buddy, oh Man, sometimes it's might be better just
to say, you know, you got the best of me, guys,

(01:16):
and take a little break. But we'll see that today.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
Guys, you know what did you do with these dozen
units I gave you on these first five totals?

Speaker 2 (01:24):
They're gone in the form of Miles Turner, oh for
six from the three point line. This, I know no
one wants to hear. Anyone can play, but the rebound.

Speaker 4 (01:36):
One, oh Man, really really.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
It's it's as bad as you can lose a wager.
Crack I had a Sam under seven a half rebounds,
all right, right, he said he's been over seven only
four times the postseason, and his number has gone down
in this series as the thunder half rebounded better. Right,
They started slow rebounding, and he started with ten first game,
then went seven and then went six. He had two

(02:01):
and a half time, I mean awesome, right, like fourteen
minutes two rebounds, like right on track. Because on the
second half, so you know, like the starters come out,
they play about six minutes right, maybe Little Indiana rotates
a lot other guys, so Siakam kind of plays four
minutes and plays two minutes and something like that.

Speaker 5 (02:19):
So Cracked.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
He had six rebounds in the first six minutes of
playtime in the second half to go over the seven
and a half, and then didn't get one rebound the
rest of the game, stay in it with eight. So
in a six minute stretch he had six rebounds and
he had two in his other twenty four minutes of
play and like you just, I don't know, man, So

(02:41):
that one kind of broke me. I'm not gonna lie.
I'm gonna fire back though, Crack. But those are those
twelve units in the first five hunders eating away the
NBA finals.

Speaker 5 (02:50):
Wow, well, I mean that's gonna happen.

Speaker 6 (02:52):
Though.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
I talk about NBA on multiple platforms, and yet you know,
some people push back a little bit, But I know
how hard it is to beat NBA. Not so much
prop bets, but more talking about sides and playoffs in general.
For any sport playoffs, it's just it gets tough. It
gets tough. Even the props get tough during playoff time.

(03:16):
So it's something that I've been pushing for a while,
and I try to not.

Speaker 5 (03:22):
Not mess around with such an efficient line.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
You understand, there's one game on, so it's a pretty
even the props, I mean, everyone looks at them. It's
pretty efficient when you have one game. Now, I'm not
referring to NFL player props and and NBA player props
have been good to me, so I really shouldn't say
anything about it, but I'm just referring to Jeff.

Speaker 5 (03:41):
It gets tough.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
It gets tough when you're when you're out there this
time of the year trying to just grind out a
couple of units, and it gets tough. I kind of
look at some smaller schedule things in smaller market. And
here as we sit, Sunday, June fifteenth, Happy Father's Day, right,
Today's followsday, guys, Yeah, yeah, on Sunday, June fifteenth, Happy
filals dates all fathers out there, and and to you, Jeff.

(04:05):
And you know here I sit June fifteenth, and I
see on the calendar literally too, uh, two sets six
six weeks away from preseason over.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
July thirty, first Baby Hall of Fame game, min mind,
the under mind, the under I think the thing with
the NBA with NBA, though Crack two is in sort
of hockey as well, which if you had the under
last night, I'm very sorry that was that was as
bad as you can get again. And if five goals
in the third period is uh, you know you you

(04:41):
want to bet these overs, right because you think to yourself,
a you want to watch over right, you want to
watch guys score. But the best bets I've had have
been unders like that. That's just what happens, right, like
you you fade the role players. I'll be topping will
certainly come for discussion today with a fade on game five.
Those hit like those are the ones that hit more often,

(05:02):
not the role players fading role players. So you know
the overs are fun, right, They're fund to root for
all these guys to score a bunch of points and
get a bunch of rebounds. But the unders man as
cross as it is to root for guys to miss shots.
And surely when they're with Caruso has an open three
in game three, and I'm like, please miss it, please
miss it, please miss it? Man Like you don't want
to root for that, right, you don't want to root

(05:23):
for guys to miss shot, Brian, But those unders are
the ones that man, they just they just tend to
tap them more often.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
I'll tell you what.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
I'll give you one quick stat which still blows my mind.
It goes back to Game four, Thunder pull it out right,
they have a magnificent fourth quarter. They win the quarter
thirty one to seventeen. Flip script, right, Indiana's been nails
in the fourth quarter against Okay see the first three games,
the nails in the whole playoffs. They've been amazing in

(05:53):
the fourth. Okay See wins game four. But what blew
my mind. I keep track of all the bet MGM
prop bets, so we're just talking points, assists, rebounds.

Speaker 4 (06:03):
In threes.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
I don't do the combo stuff, but I keep track
of those four categories. And so if you look at
all of okc's prop bets for Game four, a game
they won, if you look individually, you add all of
them up, so they're thirty four lines. You know, you
have all the starters, points, assists, rebounds, threes, the role

(06:26):
players thirty four total. They went a combined nine and
twenty five to the over. They were nine and twenty
five and still won that game. Yeah, it was amazing
to me how it worked out.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
It reminds me of the Pacers Game one win, where
it was like, you're like, everything that happened that game
was backwards, so what we thought it was going to
be like. And they won anyways, and the Thunder did
that as well. They have three three pointers.

Speaker 4 (06:57):
Yeah right, that was a find of game.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
As g had no assist And that was when I
was on because when you look at the Thunder after
a loss, one of the things that we noticed when
they do lose in the postseason is the assistco way down.
They stop sharing the ball, and then the next game
they haven't lost two in a row. The next game,
the Cisco way back up right. It's natural, right, it's
a zig zag right. One game, you don't pass the ball,

(07:22):
I show too much. The next game you tend to
to pass the ball a little bit more right to
get guys more involved. And the opposite happened in game
four where they got less involved. They got there and
and and to win a game where you make no threes,
and it wasn't like they weren't assist opportunities, they just didn't.
They just didn't make the shots. When when you have
opportunities to to you know to get assists, you know,

(07:44):
you obviously need the other I side to work out
in d NA fever, and Caitlin got there though, think
on the assist the Thankfully, I'll pull up these stats
right now because they I'll give credit to the Ringer
had them right here. They the assists raining Game one
for the Thunder was thirty three percent, Game three is

(08:04):
forty two percent, and last night it just two days ago,
twenty nine percent. Their their their assists percentage is eighteen
percent lower than Oklahoma City had against the Denver Nuggets.
Their assist rate during the rest he was sixty percent,
which wasn't high twenty eight twenty six in the league.
But like they did, they've the three they're three percentage

(08:25):
rate and the finals is thirty percent. Like they're they're
winning these games ugly, which is the importance of having
a complete team, right, Brian, because if one thing doesn't work,
the other thing works right, which is defense, which is
their incredible defense we saw at the end and as
the series goes on, Okay, he's making a ton of
adjustments with lineups with defense and find different ways to

(08:46):
guard to guard him, especially hollyburn Right, if you get
in his face early in the possession essentially sort of
shuts down in Diana's offense. So they're finding different ways
to do things, and it's been it's been impressive that
the last eight minute, eight nine minutes that fourth ordered
really fucked the series.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
And I'll tell you what, it's funny.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
The zig zag has been a good approach many times
in these NBA playoffs, But it really does test you
if whoever we're talking about, if it's a star player,
if it's a role player, they went over their prop
bet the previous game and now you've got a zig
zagg it embedded under. That's the true test right there.

(09:24):
It's easy if it's like all right, it's easier. I
should say, if like Miles Turner you mentioned him, Jeff,
he just couldn't buy a three last game.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
I mean, it's it's.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
A little more comfortable to be like, all right, he's
going to bounce back in game five. The other way around,
let's just say, like Ben Matherick goes crazy in game three,
to go under in game four is not an easy call.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Yeah, it's yeah, Like I'm I'm like, for example, like
I think I think there's opportunities for and I will
probably again. I said I quit NBA, but I'll probably
I'll probably be on a couple of these like I will.
I'm just gonna think unders like I think Neie Smith
is not getting nine rebounds again. I just we've seen
this series. He's had twelve in game one, then four,

(10:09):
then two, then nine, So I don't think he's getting
nine rebounds again. And I'm gonna take Siakam under again.
I'm not gonna be scared off that Brian, like I'm
not gonna scare off a five minute clip we had
six rebounds of the rest of the game he had two, Like,
I think that was the right handicap. So I think
some of these know. The Miles Turner thing is frustrating
because you know when you do your research and you'll
put a lot of time into figuring these wagers out,

(10:30):
and you look at patterns, you look at the way
that that you know Miles Turner had made a three
pointer in every game except one in the postseason, and
they gave me went one for nine in and the
next game he scored twenty seven points, which is what
I thought he would do after be three for eleven
the game before, and he was looked like he never
had shot of basketball before, and I are just off
of it, like I I know, there's an idea maybe

(10:51):
he bounces back. I don't know. Man, he headed shot
the ball well in two straight games. Is that now
a fatigue thing? I mean, Miles Turner is six for
twenty one his last two games, So is that now
a fatigue thing? Brian is we is the series gets
a little bit longer. He's getting the looks he wants,
but we're going, you know, the bangings happening down. We've
seen Sga get a little a little worn out at
times with the pressure he's facing. So I do wonder

(11:13):
if now some of these fatigue issues start playing a
role and how these players.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
Shoot, I mean it can.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
I just think it's more of a confidence thing with Turner.
You know, you get a couple that bounce out and
then later in the game you can tell his shot
is so unconfident. He's his own ahead at that point where.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
They get better on the road in game five though,
Like that's that's the thing.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
To be surprised.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yeah, I feel like the thunder and we'll talk about
this game a lot. It's just tomorrow. By the way,
the three days rest, all of a sudden, they just
start doing that in the finals. Is uh aren't the
thunder due for like a one fifty to one hundred win,
like at some point in the finals, Like, isn't it
isn't that they do that one of those Denver one
against Minnesota, one against Memphis? Like is that not happy

(12:05):
in this series at all? Brian, you don't think like
they do for some sort of like freak show with
the best plus minus NBA history game. If it's gonna happen,
it's gonna happen. I think tomorrow night.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
I don't think that's coming. You know, crack you see it.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
You see blowout City in one of these games for okay, see.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
No, I don't and uh, you know even again now
here we're up. Let me pull up the right lines
here again Oklahoma City at home? Uh you know, given
nine and a half is are actually a couple of tens
on my screen? So it just it just seems like
a lot of points there. Again, situationally, these have been

(12:43):
some wars and some battles. Besides, I understand Game two
when Oklahoma City was different, But I don't know. I
I think, uh, I think we battle a little closer here,
and I don't think any playoff game NBA Finals.

Speaker 5 (12:57):
Should ever be double didde.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
So but you know, like I said before Game two
in Oklahoma City, on the what do they went by?

Speaker 5 (13:04):
What was that thirstyeen? Oh no, you know what? It
felt like?

Speaker 3 (13:08):
Thirty because that's what it was the whole game until
the end of the fourth quarter where they actually brought
it closer to the eleven or eleven and a half
point spread.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
It was sixteen Game two, sixteen, but it was it
was like twenty two, twenty four, like to the last
couple of minutes.

Speaker 5 (13:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know it was.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
But anyway, guys, I uh, I tend to side even
with the three day rest. I tend to look at
those unders anyway though, but not so much play them.
What were you saying, Sam.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Under seven a half rebounds again, I'm gonna do it.
I I'll be stubborn. I'm gonna be stubborn and do it.
I just again, they thunder seven and a half. That's correct.
The thunder of rebounding a lot better in this series.
I'm just not going to be scared off of again
five you know, six rebounds in five minutes. Like this's
is not it's not what the series that's been. It's
not what he has been outside of Game one where

(13:59):
they you know, at rebound Ali the thunder by by sixteen,
that hasn't been the rest of the series. And I
just I think, obviously you can lose a wager and
it's bitter and I'm gonna complain about it and be
but hurt about it, but it's just not the way
the series has gone. It's not what he Siakam does well,
like he's not a rebounding is not his thing. But
that's sort of where I'm at with that wager. I

(14:22):
think it's still you can run it back.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Still, I'll tell you what real fast is. If you
look at Miles Turner, this kind of blows my mind
as well. Compare Miles Turner to Chet Holmgren. But just
the rebounds here. Think about this last game, Chet Holmgren
had fifteen rebounds. He finally broke out. He was a
rebounding machine. In Game four. For the series, Miles Turner

(14:43):
has seventeen rebounds. So think about that Chet had fifteen
last game. Miles has had seventeen the whole series. He's
a big man, is rebounding.

Speaker 4 (14:51):
Prop is four and a half.

Speaker 5 (14:53):
It's four.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
He doesn't play. He doesn't play at the rim. And
this is why I thought Chet. I was always curious
about our wager and Brian and I both have I
believe Chet to have the most rebounds in the series,
which right now it feels pretty safe. He's minus one thousand.
This was yesterday to have the most rebound of series.
I was concerned because if you're guarding Miles Turner, you're
not in the paint, right, and that's why we're seeing

(15:15):
I think, like Nie Smith have games where he gets
a high because he's just sort of there guarding someone
who's around the paint, and he's just there and he
jumps really well. He was able to get the Baltimore
hard and scene. I think had a bunch of rebounds
the first couple of games. But Chet finally, I think,
finally figure out his rhythm. He had a double w
played really well in game four and we're seeing what Chet.
I think the longer a series goes on, the more
comfortable he gets in and said series, and then we're

(15:38):
seeing that with his rebounding totals, he had fifteen or sixteen,
How mean you have fifteen, so we're seeing that that
kind of him become comfortable and if he's going to
put up you know, fifteen to fifteen twenty and fifteen
thunderheart to beat.

Speaker 4 (15:53):
Yeah, they are all right, So we're off and running.

Speaker 5 (15:55):
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five of the Stanley Cup Final that happened last night,
as Jeff said, that was a brutal beat. If you
were on the under, you're looking beautiful. It's two nothing

(17:23):
heading into the third period and then it's five to
two at the end of the third period. So did
not work out very well if you're on the under.
But I'm watching the game and I'm like, I wonder
if this gives gives us a glimpse as to what
might happen in Game five of the NBA Finals. Right,
So think about this. Both series mirror each other to

(17:45):
an extent where if you think of if you look
at the Florida Panthers, in Game four, So they had
this huge lead, they were up three to nothing, and
they ended up losing the game in overtime. And so
you have to wonder if the Pacers are gonna mimic this, right,
because the Pacers had a healthy lead, they're at home,

(18:07):
We've had all the momentum in the series, and they
lost the fourth quarter, they lost the game. So what
happened last night in the NHL? So here comes the
Florida Panthers. They came right back and they've got a
two to nothing lead in Game five, they end up
winning comfortably.

Speaker 4 (18:24):
I'm not expecting that.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
I'm not expecting the Pacers to win comfortably in OKC,
but maybe it mimics Game five in the NBA by
being a boat race.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
Right. It was not a close game in Game five.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
So that was when I'm watching Game five last night,
I'm like, is this what we're gonna be watching in
Game five in the NBA? Because both Game fours were epic,
I mean like epic epic games, and then Game five
was not even close. Is that what we're in store
for tomorrow night? You think it's boat race city here, Jeff,
You've talked about that.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Yeah, I don't know if it's race for the away
team though, No, like that's I think that the thing
is like Indiana, they've been they've overestimated my expectations every time,
So I really you know when I say, like, you know,
I don't know if I every time they just make
me look dumb. So maybe on the dummy here, but

(19:18):
I you know, Oka se survived a really bad performance
like that was that was poor and they survived it.
They're going back home. Sga gets an extra day of rest.
Very clearly the physicality of sort of the series has
gotten to him, but he's still played really well the
other night. Your role players tend to play better at home,

(19:41):
right the Wiggins is the Carusos. Again, it's what do
you get from Miles Turner. I don't think Obi Toppins
give me a seventeen. So I like the adjustments that
we've seen from Okay see with lineup changes, with cer
certain things the end of games. I thought that was
really a good coach game from game four from them.
I think going back to lineup that got you to
the Promised Land is pretty important. So I I don't know,

(20:07):
I don't think it's a blow for the roadt which
what we saw last night, the Panthers just appeared to
be better than the Oilers. But I don't know. The
Oilers were down what two nothing in game three and
one anyways, Bryan or three nothing like that? So three
nothing in one anyway, So that serious feels odd. You know,
the ice in Florida is not as good as the
ice Edmonton. Yet over a fly, everything's flying over. They

(20:29):
make goalie changes, you know, they It just it's at
certain points it looks like Edmonton's better. At some point
was like Florida's better. So it does may like a
little bit the NBA. I don't I don't have a
great feeling for Indiana blowing the thunder out of this game.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
Yeah, you know, it's been an exciting Stanley Cup so far.
Florida can mean you know, they could be back to
back champs. I mean, that's kind of unusual in hockey.
I think I went on Whome Ice Tuesday night. The
Panthers improved to ten and three in the road during
this run, matching the NHL record for victories. I've seen

(21:07):
that away from a home in a single playoffs, I've
seen that. It just feels like a seven game series
going back and forth in those two overtime games. Wow,
if I had a guess, I think Edmonton wins Game
six and then Florida comes back to win the Cup
in Game seven. As far as the NBA Finals goes,
Oklahoma City really took back the momentum of the series

(21:28):
in the fourth quarter of the Game four, as Ga
showed why he was the MVP this season, scoring fifteen
points in the final four and a half minutes. I mean, Jesus,
these teams are a lot more evenly match than their
records show, obviously, and I don't see a runaway game,
like I said, in this next game. But I think
we're doing for another back and forth close one. Even

(21:50):
though the thunder led to the NBA in point differential,
and I have won a lot of blowouts, I do
expect the Pacers to keep some pace with them and
then a closer game. So we'll see, and maybe they'll
keep then come down to the last five minutes.

Speaker 5 (22:04):
We'll see. But it's hard just.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
Think about the human condition though. For those Indiana players,
my God to be winning. You know, It's funny when
when I turned the game on, it was ninety nine,
ninety two so I turned the game on. I just
got home and turned the game on it for the end,
I just thought, you know, this looks like a nice,
nice little victory, home victory for Indiana. And just think

(22:28):
about that collapse in the last couple of minutes there. Jesus,
they really have to you know, but they're professional athletes
and they come back from things like this. But just
the human condition, just thinking about mentally what they had
and it was, you know, to go up three to one,
even going back to know one, you got another game
coming home.

Speaker 5 (22:47):
Boy, that's tough. That's tough. But we'll see what happens.

Speaker 4 (22:51):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
I feel I don't know about you guys, but I
think that the NH now they feel much more like
in individual games right where like, uh, I don't see.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
I'll put it this way.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
Both game fours were epic, and it was a heartbreaker
for Florida hugely. They end up losing in overtime and
they come back like Game four never even happened. Yeah,
they came back last night in Game five like it
never even happened. That's really really difficult. I think it's
more difficult to do it in basketball. Maybe it's just
the nature of the sport more so. I don't know,

(23:26):
but in hockey it seems to happen more frequently where
there's less of like you're talking about crack the human condition,
and I'm right, But and Rick Carlisle has talked about this.
He thinks of each game as a completely separate chapter.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
In a book.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
And it's like in the NBA Finals, I think the
previous game has a greater tendency to bleed into the
next game.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
Well, I think it's just that sports are so different, right,
Like in hockey, there's just there's it's a it's a
puck bouncing the ice. Like like in basketball, there tends
to be a rhythm and a flow and you make
lineup like you're not there's every now and then there's
lineup changes in in hockey, but like you're not just

(24:14):
switching out like entire line I mean, okay, seeing Indiana
will just change upstitution patterns for a game, you know,
like they and just changed the way. And because of
the physicality of of in hockey's are physical, of course,
but just the physicality of just like the SGA stuff,
right and then you miss it just feels like there's
different sports I don't know how much you could take

(24:35):
away from that game last night other than I'm gonna
keep firing that those blocks paralys. I'll tell you that
Edmonton's blocking a ton of shots, especially with with with
Skinner in the uh in in the crease, like they
just they they feel like they're you know, they gotta
they gotta assume the picker was in last night, not Skinner.

(24:55):
You know, they got a backup goaliere. They're starting goal
whoever they want to classify. They're just diving in front
of pock. You know. I think Game five, assuming Game six,
are gonna do it like crazy. Right, it's the last
game of the year for them if they lose, So
that's an angle to play if you would like to
play in Game six. But look, I think Florida. The
thing about the game too, the series is why I

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think they're a little bit different, is it does feel like,
again I'm not no hockey expert, but it does feel
like watching this series, Florida just has much better players everywhere.
McDavid is the best player on the ice, and I
don't think I don't feel quite that way about Indiana
and in Oklahoma City. I think Olahoma city has just
more depth. I don't know if their players are individually

(25:39):
that much better, but collectively as a whole, they're better
than the Pacers, if that makes sense. Like I think
Florida just looks at times with their goal scoring ability
of nearly what four guys can score and Marsians come
alive and Bennett and ver Hagy and can chuck like,
it's just a better scoring team than I think the Oilers.
And that shows in a lot of these games.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
Exept for of these parlays you're talking about here block parlay?

Speaker 5 (26:04):
What is that?

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Okay? So you there are players you know if you
if you shoot a shot in hockey and you jump
it and the pucket is blocked by your body, you
get credit for That's a stat okay. And how do
you play?

Speaker 5 (26:19):
What do you mean the parlor parlay?

Speaker 2 (26:21):
You can put them up. So uh game one and
I did go to over to it. It was game two,
Game two overtime. I put like the top defenseman on
Florida because Game one there a ton of block shots.
So I was like, you know what, I'll parlay all
these I put six guys together to have to et
least two blocks or more all I needed was six
guys and it hit. It was like thirty four to one.

(26:43):
And when you're hitting it, yeah, and last night I was.
I had a fifty five to one that I played
and I was two blocks away from hitting it.

Speaker 5 (26:53):
Now I know why at MGM is given.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
I'm wondering why Jeff's getting all these bonuses and and bonus.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
Fortunately it's unfore actually only a couple of sportsbooks offering like, Wow,
if I was one, I needed one block from two
players in the third period to hit that one. Last
night he didn't have the long shots. Obviously it happens.
It happens. But yeah, I mean Edmonton's they blocking a
ton of shots, man Like they're there because I think

(27:19):
because their goalten situation is so bad, Like the Panthers
aren't blocking as many. I think that the Islanders, I mean,
those are as many shots. But also Bob has been good,
Like they're not worried about diving in front of pucks
because Bob is doing a good job back there.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
Bob is tremendous. Absolutely, he is okay, Uh, Bob's tremendous.
Isaac Lohenkron is tremendous.

Speaker 4 (27:38):
I low with his tier. He's got the latest.

Speaker 5 (27:40):
What's going on?

Speaker 8 (27:40):
I low, Yes, we're all tremendous. Thank you, good morning
fellas myself, Bob and his Florida Panthers. And who's also
tremendous Brad Marshan, because on Saturday night, in Game five
with the Stanley Cup Final, he scored two goals and
the Panthers five to two victory at Edmonton for a
three games to two lead. Marshan last night, in scoring

(28:01):
those two goals, became the first player to score at
least five goals in a Stanley Cup Final for two
different teams. He also scored five goals for the Boston
Bruins in the twenty eleven Stanley Cup Final against Vancouver.
This year, he does it again at age thirty seven,
and in fact, last night. Afterwards, Marshan was asked what
his twenty eleven self would think of his twenty twenty

(28:23):
five self.

Speaker 5 (28:24):
Listen, man, that guy's good looking.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Probably be it.

Speaker 8 (28:31):
Meanwhile, if my twenty eleven self was asked what he
would think of my twenty twenty five self, he'd respond,
oh my god, what happened.

Speaker 4 (28:41):
Anyway?

Speaker 8 (28:42):
Game six of the Stanley Cup Final on Tuesday at
Florida golf. After three rounds of the US opened Sam
Burns as a one shot lead at four under par overall,
over Adam Scott and JJ Spahn. Burns and Scott will
see off the final rout of two to fifteen Eastern
Baseball Saturday Night Dodgers over the Giants eleven to five,
show heyto two home Runsie now is twenty five this year,

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two hundred and fifty in his career. Clayton Kershaw allowed
three hits and seven scoreless innings for the win, and
the Arizona Diamondbacks scored five runs in the bottom of
the ninth inning to stun the San Diego Padres eight
to seven. It was the diamondbacks third come from behind
win this year, already when trailing by at least four
runs in the ninth inning.

Speaker 4 (29:23):
Guys, all yours, Oh not bad d Backs. Let's get
after it.

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Speaker 4 (30:19):
I kept I was listening to that. I just felt
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Speaker 4 (30:26):
It sounded similar right a little bit?

Speaker 2 (30:28):
Did I'm curious about I'm looking right now on BETMGM
for the uh the consmife because I feel like Marshannon
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Speaker 4 (30:41):
He's gotta imagine he's got to be there.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
He's got to be. I can't know what's happening here.
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Speaker 4 (30:46):
He's been tremendous.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
I got to get to a couple of changes real
fast that you might be in favor of if you
look at college basketball. So they're gonna have the NBA
challenge system, all right, No more like endless replays at
the end of game. So if you're you get a challenge.
If you're right, you get another challenge.

Speaker 5 (31:03):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
No more of the replays over here. So I would
have to imagine you guys are in favor of that.
Some of these college games drag on forever at the end, Yes,
crack you like.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
This in favor of the NBA challenge system.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
I'm in favor of anything that fixes pit calls and
doesn't slow the game down. So I think the NBA
has done a good job with their replay system, so
I think it should work for college basketball too. You know,
I gotta tell you, Brian Jeff, does that still mean
that under two minutes they can review something without a

(31:37):
team challenging it.

Speaker 5 (31:39):
I don't really know the Like.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
I would imagine they're probably gonna sneak in a review
here or there right to go from where it was
to like, all right, you just have maximum two challenges
and that's it. Like Max, we could have four replays
and I don't know, it might find a way to
shoot more and like, yeah, but just let's review if

(32:02):
the ball was off of this player or not. Yeah,
maybe we'll see they might be going. There's momentum to
switch from halves to four quarters a lot.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
I'm totally in favor of that.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
In favor of that as well. It just seems when
you watch the you know, men's men's NBA, right when
you watch the w NBA, it just flows a lot better.
It would really help with the foul situation. Yes, you
have just a lot less foul You might have more
unders because you don't too many foul shots, but you
just have because again it's five thouls a quarter to

(32:35):
get you to a bonus. Now it's only seven and
a half and you get to one and one, and
you know that can happen quite quickly. It's when you
watch NBA or when you watch WNBA, I mean, you know,
it's it's rare sometimes when Scott Foster's not on the
blowing his whistle and in the NBA, to get to
a bonus with you know, under two minutes, maybe like

(32:56):
to go in a quarter WNBA feels like it's rarely.
They're rarely in bonuses. Obviously Game four is the worst
example to use because there were seventy five foul shots.
But for the most part, it would take college basketball
and it just make it less grinding the last four
or five minutes of a game because you just would
have more opportunity to just play offense and not worry

(33:16):
about gaining align so much. So I'd be in favor
of it. The one thing I always find interesting about
we've determined two minutes in basketball at a time where
we can review certain things. People will say with the NFL,
has it they change their rules, excuse me, their review
process under two minutes, and they do, But under two
minutes there's actually clock rules change, like things change under

(33:39):
two minutes, like there's an actual change to the NFL
the way they play their game under two minutes. There's
no change in basketball like that. It's the same exact rules.
So if a ball goes out of bounds and you
review it under two minutes, what's the difference, Brian, when
it's two minutes in one second is just not as

(34:00):
important is one that happens at one fifteen. I don't
understand it. Again, the NFL, fundamentally, the game changes under
two minutes, the clock rules change, Like everything changes. Yeah,
the way the game is a physically played under two
minutes changes, because the all those things change, there's no
difference in basketball under two minutes. I don't know why
we've determined that two minutes in basketball is the time

(34:22):
when reviews now happen. I don't argue that we should
have reviews all the time, either, but like, it's so
funny to me that two minutes is the arbitrary time
that we figured out in basketball.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
Well, it's weird because more than that, right to your
point changes. You can't do the hack a shack anymore
in the NBA once you get to that two minute mark.
And then also the team files. Right, you might have
one team foul in the whole quarter, but you have
two team files in the final two minutes. Right, Your
your second team file might be your first team foul

(34:55):
in the final two minutes. Guess what that next foul
even though it's your third team file. You're in the bonus, baby,
Like you get two files, you get one file to
give basically in the final two if you're not already
in the bonus. But all right, we'll see how it
goes right, it looks like a possible quarter system in
men's college hoops. All right, we've got Bill Krackenberger, professional

(35:15):
sports handicapper, Jeff Schwartz, eight year NFL veteran, I'm Brian
now coming up. Next we get to the parlay platter.
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Speaker 5 (35:59):
All right, let's do this.

Speaker 7 (36:02):
Check this out our late letter.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
Yes, it is time for the platter. We wach have
one selection. We pull it together for a greater payout.
Crack will start with you. What do you have, buddy.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
I'm over on the bet MGM site, and let's look
at the Milwaukee Brewers for the game minus a dollar
thirty a rare side for me in baseball today. Let's
start out with that one. I just sugre we'll throw
that one in the platter minus one thirty.

Speaker 4 (36:27):
This is unlike you to fade my Cardinals, Crack, after they.

Speaker 5 (36:31):
Just beat me up. Yeah, they beat us up.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Let me let me log into the app and put
this Milwaukee money line wags. You're in it for myself.
That's a Cracks has so put forth. All right, I'm
gonna look at the uh on the w NBA today.
Look at the Sun. Okay, the Sun are playing the Sky,

(36:55):
and the Sun are gonna score over seventy nine and
a half points in this game. The Sky played no defense.
Even the games they've won, the Wings scored ninety two
and eighty four. I believe they just allowed a ton
of points. Like they're just not good a good team.
I know the Sun haven't played great this season. They

(37:15):
have won more of their games than not. Recently, they've
had a rough stretch of it, Brian, but I just
the Sun just aren't good, and I've made multiple wagers
on their season win total. I will stop probably now.
I don't think they're gonna win a lot of games,
but I will go with Look, India scored ninety three,
Liberty scored ninety nine, Dream just scored eighty eight. I

(37:39):
like the Sun to score today.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
Okay, I was originally gonna go with that game, Jeff,
I've got and this sounds like I'm disagreeing, but it's
really not. It could be both. With what you just said.
I like the first quarter Under. I just don't think
we're gonna be a twelve.

Speaker 5 (37:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
Yeah, both teams are two and seven and it's thirty
eight and a half. Like Under, thirty eight and a
half in a quarter is pretty gross. But I can
see that hitting in the Sky's Sun might not find
their stride until a little bit later in the game.
And even then is you know, it's not gonna be
you know, points galore. But you can't parlay those two together.

(38:18):
So out of respect, your pick over there, Chef. I'll
go with something I initially liked a lot more than
I do now, but I still think it can hit here.
I'm gonna look to Adam Scott, who is in second
place right now. I've got him shooting seventy one or
lower today. The thing that worries me is the weather.

(38:39):
The wind is not bad at all, but we're looking
like showers later in the afternoon. It's sixty percent that
it's going to rain here. So I don't like the idea,
you know how it goes in golf, where we're getting weather,
it's raining and they're like.

Speaker 4 (38:53):
Yeah, maybe a couple more holes, just keep baffling through it.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
I don't like being on an under, especially at the
US Open, if that's the scenario. But Adam Scott has
been really consistent in this tournament. He shot seventy, seventy
and sixty seven, and with light wind, a little bit
of rain which can help out, it's not always a
bad thing. I'm gonna go with the under here, even

(39:18):
though I don't absolutely love the idea of weather playing
an impact. But that yeah, I'm gonna have to I'm
gonna have to trace it back because it doesn't give
us an actual payout with those three picks. Sometimes you
can't parlay these things together, you know, So I'll go
NBA prop on you talk to amongst yourselves for a

(39:41):
two seconds here while I put in Halliburton's up.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
I was gonna put I'm a love waves. You're on
a whole nine here, crack in the US opening, the
harder whole the entire course. Some bad golfers up right now,
and we're just got a little tiny peanut.

Speaker 4 (39:55):
Wage're on here, you go on, bogy, Okay, give me
Haliburton under eight and a half assist we go.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Have you partlayd those three together? We're looking at plus
four forty eight?

Speaker 4 (40:04):
Pretty good?

Speaker 1 (40:05):
Yeah, I'm bad right there, almost five to one.

Speaker 5 (40:10):
Oh, what's going on?

Speaker 4 (40:11):
Happy Sunday to you?

Speaker 1 (40:13):
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Speaker 4 (40:33):
All right, So the US open going on right now? Ok,
mind challenging.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
I love when they just show the graphics and you
know they'll have the little arrows pointed and it's like
they don't want to hit it here it's bad, then
it'll be like.

Speaker 4 (40:48):
You've got about ten feet or so where you want
to hit it.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
Otherwise it's it's gonna be bad news, real bad news.

Speaker 4 (40:56):
I love the graphics.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
But the question is have you lost interest or gained
interest in this year's event because we don't have a
lot of star power at the top of the leader board.

Speaker 4 (41:08):
Are you more invested or less invested?

Speaker 2 (41:12):
Well, I look at this opportunity to fade people. I mean,
yesterday was it Friday? I took like the first four
golfers to go under to be over their round score.
I mean, these guys that are out right now, right now,
really all we have on is one feature group deck.

(41:34):
He's out there in Harris English. They're plus fourteen, plus fifteen.
I took English today because I could find him. I
actually didn't even take English. I'm sorry. I have a
couple other guys. You have English over seventy three and
a half today for his round score, and he's plus
one right now. They're on nine right now, which is
the hardest hole of the course, and he had it
right into the rough immediately. So like, there's opportunities I

(41:56):
think to do that. You look at hold nine has
been the hardest than a whole. Fifteen has been second
second hardest. You look at the pin locations, which you
can look up. Fifteen is like diabolical. There's not gonna
be made a little scores on fifteen today, So I
think you look at it that way. If you have
access to some of the live hole, you know, wagers
that you can make for some of these early golfers

(42:18):
just taking their under, you know, taking the bogie or
worse if you can get even or plus money, which
I did today so far in two golfers I hit,
I was one one and one, but they're both plus
money's I made a little bit, I mean a couple
of dollars doing That's how you guy's waste take advantage
of it without you know, having really anyone to win,
which I have. I took a bonus bet on Bryson

(42:39):
to start this. It's all I got. And I took
a little bit of ho one this morning. That's about it.
So I don't mind it. It's it looks like me
playing golf, which I sometimes would rather see some scores
minus eight, minus seven somewhere around there, minus ten for
the winter crack. But I look at it as it
advantage to try to make some money other ways.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
No, I love golf, and believe it or not, you guys,
something you guys don't know about me. I played golf
three times a week call all through like late high school,
like eleventh twelfth grade, and even the first five years
six years past high school. I would actually go to
the in Mommouth County. We had these county courses back then.

(43:20):
You know, I'm a little bit older than you guys,
and back then you had to actually go sit in
the morning at five o'clock to get your name on
for a tea time later in the day. There was
no There was not even no internet back then. So
it's something I used to love and I enjoy to do.
So to have a even minus ten on my scorecard,

(43:41):
I'm sorry, plus ten on my scorecard for a round
today would be a minor miracle. But I really enjoyed
it back then. And you know, of course, you want
to see the big names and players, you know, on
top of the leaderboard of the weekend, especially a major
like this, but that doesn't take anything away from really
if you're watching this weekend.

Speaker 5 (43:59):
I like watching golf in general.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
I do like watching these pros play tough courses and
tougher conditions where they really struggle at times and really
have to battle on the golf course. I much, I
much prefer watching a tournament like this with only a
couple of guys on their par than watching some of
the tournaments years this year, Like you know, Scheffler up
ten strokes and a thirty two on Sunday afternoon. You know,

(44:22):
it should be an exciting last round today. I'm looking
forward to watching today with the leaders. I think they
start at eleven fifteen my time, two fifteeniest the guys
that are up there on top of the leaderboard. But yeah,
I'd rather watch this, believe it or not, then watch
a Scotti Scheffler running away with the tournament. This is
more exciting to me, especially a major. You guys know,

(44:44):
I went to the Masters, and I love these major.
These made I love every tournament, but there's just something
a little special about these majors, so it should be fun.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
I love the US Open. I love how challenging it is.
I just saw I don't know who it was with putting,
and he had to hit his shot far right, and
he thought he hit it far enough and it wasn't
even close.

Speaker 4 (45:06):
Like this guy on some massive slope. It goes a.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
Little to the right and then hard left into the rough,
and he's like, this is a butt. I was on
the green and now I'm in the rough now. So
I love how challenging it is.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (45:20):
With that being said, though, you gotta give me a
name or two.

Speaker 5 (45:24):
Got it.

Speaker 4 (45:24):
I'm sorry, I'm losing interest. I need one name. There
was one big name.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
I mean, this is a guy's in a miracle forty
four years old. You know, it's a minor miracle being
up there and stuff. So I you know, he shot
some unbelievable roumses and uh, you know, I was kind
of rooting for him yesterday a little bit, And I
don't know about today for him. Like you said, it
could be a it could be a tough day for him,
but we'll see.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
So the one that's interesting again is shot first still
just like hanging out. So it's entirely possible. The top
of this board just goes plus four plus five today,
Shefferl would have to shoot the round of not really
the round of the turnam I guess it. Burns was
had sixty five, I think, But I mean, can Jeffer
go minus four. They could mean in the middle, and
this could be an even you know even even right,

(46:13):
you know right a tie, right, it's at at even
par at the at I mean it's it's certainly that's
what I'm what I'm what I'm hoping for today is
is we're gonna get a lot of chaos. I feel like,
I mean, go, if you can go, you can go.
Look it up pin placements for today guys. It like
they they're statistic, like they want everyone to have a rough.

(46:35):
I mean, whole thirteen is like they're all tucked away
in corners and looks little nooks and cranies with with
bunkers all around them. I mean, it's we're gonna have
some insanely like high scores today. I feel like Scheffler
is the one interesting I'm I'm a wager on it,
but I think there's like a chance that there's such

(46:57):
a collapse in the top guys that we sort of
have a a situation where a star superstar makes their
way back up to the top.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
Maybe it could work out that way. I just look
at it where it's like, to me, it's like music,
right where if you're saying with the golfer, like, yeah,
I've heard of that guy. I don't want them at
the top of the leaderboard. Sorry, it's just me. I
don't want it to be like, yeah, I think I've
heard of that band. I don't want them being the headline. Okay,

(47:26):
So that's the thing where Yeah, there are a few guys.
I love Victor Hovlin. He's a metal head. I root
for vic you know, and he's on the short list here.
He's one of the guys there under par But some
of these guys, like I know them, but they don't
move me.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
You know.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
I know Tyrol Hatten, but it's like, hey, Tyrol Hatten's
like he's minus two, like he's only one shot back.
I'm like, great, I'm proud of him. It's not doing
anything for my viewing experience. Like there are some names, yeah,
that move me, and some names I'm familiar with that
do not move me at all.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
Yeah, I will say again, like I think the way
to do this, and it's I think it's not every
sports book offers these but these overs man for these
rounds today and the problem is, and I got lucky
this morning that these were I only took ones that
were plus money as I'm not laying one p fifty
on a golf round score over as I feel really

(48:23):
good about it. But I mean, so far today again,
these are guys at the bottom of the leaderboard. I
get it. Plus three plus three plus three plus three
plus two plus two plus two play. They're not even
halfway through the round yet, and the hardest holes are
they're still fit thirteen and fifteen. I mean it just again,
so you just have to watch it in a different way,
which is not the most fun to watch, which is this,

(48:44):
which is like I'm watching for guys to be terrible,
which is the under thing in basketball and under any
time you're like, I don't want to watch unders. But
that is what this tournament is, and that's the way
you take advantage of it, in my opinion. But MGIM
has sometimes a limited menu when it comes to some
of those round scores. But I don't expect Rory to

(49:06):
play terribly well today. I don't know why you would
expect that.

Speaker 6 (49:11):
I have.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
We're gonna have Roy over seventy one and a half
for today, he has, He's shot seventy two, seventy two,
seventy four. Why would today, like all of a sudden,
he'd be great. I don't buy it. So that's I
think a way to play this. You just fade everybody,
which again is not fun. No one likes doing that,
but that sort of is what this course is.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
Yeah, and I just don't like where he is mentally
for today's round, you know, like they asked him, so,
what are you thinking about tomorrow? They asked him yesterday,
and it's like, you know, uh, like Posle is like, I
guess there's a battle out there for four and a
half hours and then get out of here. Like that
doesn't scream under round to me, you know. And it's

(49:55):
funny too because he just birdied the second hole, and
you might if you're.

Speaker 4 (50:00):
On and over you're like, oh man, well that's not good.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
Huh Shane Lowry, Oh boy, he eagled the second hole
and ended up like plus ninety plus nine buried me.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Yeah, I had Lowry. I think a small peanut to
just you know, to place well or to win. This
is why, this is why, I mean, this is why
sports and gambling can just be like just so I
have I have English is we're watching right now this
ninth hole to bogie this hole, it was plus one ten.
It's hardest hole in the course. He goes t shot

(50:37):
into the rough, second shot into the rough, third shot
chip out nine feet away from a park. Oh god, right,
Like he's putt terrible today. It's multiple birdie putts, have
missed all them. I think, like that shit, that's a double.
I think for the most part most times now he's
putting for a nine foot putt for par. It's like, like,

(50:59):
I don't know that would take. If I lost, I
kill my day. But like, I feel like it's a
good wager. When a guy goes to the rough. It
was minus six point fifty after his after his second
shots the live number. So oh, that's the way I'm
playing some of this. It is what it is. But uh,
maybe i'm a de general crack. I don't know.

Speaker 5 (51:15):
As I said, they you know, they got meetings and stuff,
so yeah, meeting.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
I think you're onto something though, Jeff, it's I think
you got to get away from the name thing. And
I'm just being honest with you. Like again, there are
some names that move me. If they're at the top
of the leaderboard, I'm like, oh, I want to see this.
I think you have to look at the US Open
collectively and whoever's up there, you just look at it
where it's it's the course. The course is the name.

(51:44):
It's not you need this, you know, rock star that's
on the the Scottie Scheffler short list to contend. Like,
if that's what you need, you're probably gonna get let
down in the US Opening. I think you got to
look at the course as the rock star here and
just flip your your perspective and a lot more enjoyable
that way. Because if you're all about the names and
you don't have names right like you're just like zoned

(52:07):
out like that, that's no good. You got to look
for a different way to get invested. Why we look
for the long rough. Root for the long rough. So
that's a root of for today.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
The grounds who they show in between shots right now,
because they're not showing. They show the grounds through like
with their dusters, like blowing out the rough so it
gets taller. I mean there's been times in this tournament
when when people have called over rules officials, they could
they could move the ball in the rough to make
sure it's their ball. I don't even know if it's
their ball like that. That's how insane. This is so

(52:39):
as I watch this guy shoot nine foot part but
he missed it. There we go, God another one crack wow,
two and one today, there we go. I mean, all right,
plus one ten for twenty five dollars is really it's
really gonna give my.

Speaker 5 (52:55):
All.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
You know, I'm in. I'm in for this. Hey man. Look,
I'm only going to be watching this today from now
until we're done, then probably not again till like you three,
so I won't take a little bit of a break.
But I mean this again, this is It sounds silly
to wager on people being terrible, but you just talked
about Brian like, this is what the course is giving us.

(53:16):
It's giving us these long rufs, these really tight fair ways.
The greens are diabolically fast and difficult to read. And
so that's again, that's the way I'm wagering a lot
of this, And uh yeah, it sounds a miserable way
to do it, but I don't know how else to.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
It did remind me of if you were talking about
the grounds crew, do you guys This is dated, but
you remember a guy named George Toma. I remember what
he was like, the field guy for the NFL. He
would fix the field sometimes. And this is way back
in the day where I remember in the nineties where
it's gonna be the NFC title game, the Niners are
hosting the Cowboys, and Madden is just you know how

(53:58):
Madden was. He's all about George Tooma and George Thomas
replacing the middle part of the field, you know, and
getting the grass. And then I just picture the opposite
of George Toma here at the the US Open, right,
it's the diabolical like, how can we make this more
difficult type.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
George Toma was the guy. I believe that he did
the Super Bowl fields, right, so you said, he said, well,
he's the one that that they blamed for the Chiefs Eagles.
That was his last year. He did the field a
couple of years back, the one that was slippering.

Speaker 4 (54:29):
In Arizona Super slipp I remember when.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
It's not his fault, obviously, but yeah, he was. He
was the guy for so many years that that uh
that that that did that.

Speaker 4 (54:38):
Yeah, oh gosh it. Madden was.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
I'll never forget the name George Tooma because madd is
just like, look at the middle of the grasslanders the
whole thing replaced.

Speaker 4 (54:48):
It like the opposite here at the US Open. You know,
it's like the anti George Thoma, trying to make it
way more difficult.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
I again, you just have to look at it. To
Brian's point, like it's just you look at it as
like this is you don't root for the course, but
you know what it is going in and you see
these guys that are obviously the best in the world,
and how tough it is for them. I mean, look,
it's different than obviously anything else we see right where,

(55:19):
even the Masters, right, I mean, winners are shooting a
decent number. I mean Decky just just just hit a
ball and slumped down in like pain. I mean, it's
just it is what it is for this tournament. I
mean it is. You know, Sam Burns short favor right
now bet MGM plus one seventy five, Adam Scott plus
three hundred spawn plus three thirty spawn has been very consistent,

(55:40):
though I feel like we're underrating I think just consistency
of his game this week and what has meant. I
mean he's been sixty six and seventy two, sixty nine,
just sort of plugging along. So I'm looking forward to
watching the Antea. We're gonna see again. I think, unlike
a lot of times when we just watch guys just
like Excel at the end, it's going to be a
bunch of just who dost make mistakes?

Speaker 4 (56:01):
Yeah, No, I think a lot of that's true. All right,
we've got Bill Krackenberger, professional sports handicapper. Jeff Schwartz, eight
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Speaker 4 (57:05):
All right, let's do.

Speaker 7 (57:06):
This follow the money real good one?

Speaker 1 (57:10):
Ah, Yes, we welcome in our good friend Seamus McGee
on a Sunday, team lead of Sports Trading at BETMGM.
Good morning, Seamus. You know, I'm kind of curious. We
talk about in game betting all the time, like NHL
NBA playoffs.

Speaker 4 (57:28):
Do you see a decent amount of that with the
US Open with what's available and BETMGM depending on how
the course is playing in a given day.

Speaker 6 (57:38):
Yeah, we've heard be back on a Sunday. Happy Father's
Day to all the dads out there. But yeah, this
is definitely one of the weirder ball in play betting
events we have here because it's a big major, but
we don't have like a ton of huge names towards
the top of the leader board like we have Sheffer
City at fifty to one right now. It's pretty nuts.

(57:58):
So by the time a lot of these leaders start
to tee off, we're going to see a lot of
money come in in play, mainly because it looks like
it's anyone's field right now. The force has just been
all over the place for these golfers, so it could
lead to some meltdowns and maybe we see someone get
hot and people jump on them.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
Does I guess pre fault? But what was the majority
of outright winner wagers on Chefler? I feel like the
number got so low this week that him playing poorly
was something that you guys very much enjoyed.

Speaker 6 (58:33):
It's been pretty decent so far. A lot of the
money came in on Scheffler. You know, a lot of
parlays involved Scotty Scheffler as well. A lot of people
like throwing me in like some futures parlays. But you know,
the Scheffler d Chambeau's kept actually got a lot of money,
especially as the way he started. But you know, some
of them live guys will get some action on these.

(58:54):
But right now, it's been a pretty good tournament for
Ben and GM so far, with a lot of these
big names struggling.

Speaker 3 (59:01):
Seamous Tonight thunder Pacers you guys are nine and a
half to get this game? Really didn't move around too much.
Are you seeing any action on either side right now
where you have a you guys are having a side
or do you expect to have a side by game time?
It looks like really right now kind of stagnant to me.
I'm looking at my odds, screaming all the different books

(59:22):
up and you guys to just stay right there at
nine and a half minus ten on both sides.

Speaker 6 (59:27):
Yeah, it's been a funny series. It feels like it's
kind of foot flopped every game. Which side is the need?
But the spread right now is three fifty to fifty
lock step, So no real need on this spread, but
there is definitely some interest on the Pacers' money line,
and you know, sitting at around plus three thirty that
you know, we're kind of hoping that the Thunder can

(59:48):
take this one. But from a futures book standpoint, you know,
I'd say yesterday we end up taking a lot of
money in from our retail spots on the Thunder to
win this series, some big bets coming and kind of
canceling out our Pacers spread. There facers liability, excuse me,
so it's interesting right now. I think we're going to
end up needing the thunder just to win outright. If

(01:00:09):
they don't cover, I think that would end up being
good as well.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
It's interesting, Seamus, if you think about that's where my
mind goes immediately. Like you sometimes have these betters where
they go zigzag, and so this would be a zigzag
spot for the Pacers. But you just saw okay See
play so well in the fourth quarter. It might test
you to the point where you get a lot of
betters backing okay See. Where is the money at predominantly

(01:00:34):
just what the point spread?

Speaker 4 (01:00:35):
Is it more okay See or is it more Indie again?

Speaker 6 (01:00:39):
Right now, it seems like people can't really make up
their minds right now. It's it's pretty fifty to fifty
on the on the in terms of handle right now,
it's it's just a weird series. Like right when you
think someone's going to take a stranglehold a series, there's
a big fourth further comeback. So I think it has
some better. It's kind of going all over the place,
which as a book is good to say.

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
Games in the Stanley Cup Finals the total still six
and a half. It's just the under, though, after five
games in a row of the overhitting, are you guys
writing under tickets? I feel like the casual better especially
is just knocking to bet the under in the series.

Speaker 6 (01:01:16):
Having some sharp money coming in off the opening line
on that six and a half, it's got to be
I think some regression might be coming in. But no,
it's it's crazy. It's just I was saying, answer, there's
just so much firepower on both sides. I think if
you're hoping for an under, you're just looking for Bbrovsky
to stand on this head.

Speaker 3 (01:01:34):
One game, you know, and I said, Tony, it's actually
tomorrow night's the NBA, then the next night is the NHL.
So would you say your your handle on the US
Open so far has been what you expected? And also
the second part of that is, do you think, because

(01:01:55):
we talked about this earlier on the show, no real
big names up top of the leaderboard, do you think
you'll get some live wagering here on Burne, Scott, Spawn
Hovelin when before they tee off to you, are you
guys expecting anything because we don't have those key names up.

Speaker 6 (01:02:09):
Top, it's gonna be really interesting. I think you need
someone to either play some spectacular golf to make a
run up top to get people's attention because I have
a little worried about the viewership in terms of and
live betting with you know, there's no chef, but there's
no Tepta, there's no you know, there's no comments up there,
So it'll be interesting to see in terms of our handles.

(01:02:32):
So far through the weekend, it's been about on far
with what I expected it to be nationwide in terms
of a US Open. But yeah, it'll be interesting, I
think because the course is such a story. You might
have some people tuning in and you know there might
be a flyer out there worth.

Speaker 5 (01:02:47):
A bet.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
Okay seams. So you normally grace us with a shame
of special on Saturdays.

Speaker 4 (01:02:53):
Are you going to allow us a shame of special
here on a Sunday appearance?

Speaker 6 (01:02:58):
You know, I was really keen for a Father's Day special.
I got into gambling the first time because my dad
would take me to the Metalalands racetrack growing up. But
unfortunately they are not racing today. So we're gonna go
back Brian to I will try it and true UA
Under twenty one Euros Soccer Championship we are gonna go

(01:03:18):
with over two and a half goals in Finland, Ukraine.
Ukraine kind of robbed of a point in against Denmark
and their opening games filling with a surprise too to
two draw against Holland. I think there's goals in this game.
We'll take over two and a half and I think
I spy at minus one forty out there, that's where
the shot.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
Okay, nice, all right, fair enough under twenty one. It's
it's fertile ground over there. So we appreciate that, same
as always appreciate you popping on here.

Speaker 4 (01:03:45):
Good to spend some time with you. I hope you
have a great Sunday. We'll catch you soon.

Speaker 6 (01:03:49):
We're going guys.

Speaker 4 (01:03:50):
Thanks, good stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:03:51):
There.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
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Who knew that's how it's trending because in Game five
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It was the third time this year already that Arizona
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Speaker 5 (01:05:41):
Least four runs.

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All right, So, the New York Knicks, huh, not exactly
the smoothest off season, as they're looking for a new
head coach. They fired Tom Thibodeau after the Knicks got
to the Eastern Conference Finals for the first time in

(01:06:30):
twenty five years, so they kick tips to the curb
and now they're trying to find a new guy. And
this has been as awkward as possible. It's been a
messy offseason for the Knicks. They've reached out to multiple
teams and every team is like, no, you can't interview
our head coach. Sorry, you know, go jump in a river.
You're not doing it Nicks. And the Knicks are like, oh, okay,

(01:06:53):
let's just call up Houston. Houston says no, all right,
let's try Minnesota with Chris Finch. Nope, Minnesota says no.
It's been an awkward, messy off season. You could question
the decision to move on from TIBs, but the way
it's gone from there, they just look like a flat
out joke, like they had no plan for who's going

(01:07:13):
to be the successor to Tibbs. And it's gonna be
really interesting to see who they end up getting, because
right now it's not looking great and it shouldn't end
up looking great. The process has been so bad. I
would hate for them to you know, luck out and
get someone great, because it's been so sloppy from TIBs
to what we have right now, really weird offseason for

(01:07:35):
the Knicks.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
Look, when you fire a coach, you have to have
a replacement in mind, like an actual replacement, like someone
who you know you've at least sort of talked to,
You've had some some you know, some discussion with. And
it feels like the Knicks just fired TIBs without any

(01:07:57):
thought of any other coach who might want the job.
I don't you know what I mean, Like they just
didn't have any plan whatsoever, and they're going after coaches
that are already in places, Like what are they things
gonna happen? It doesn't. I don't understand. You're just gonna
get all these all these you know, you're like, yeah

(01:08:19):
all right, so yeah, yeah great, Like yeah, we're yeah, okay, great,
take my guy from me.

Speaker 5 (01:08:24):
I don't know what expected to happen here, right, Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:08:28):
You know you you would expect this winning team when
it comes to coaching anyway, searches in New York, I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
I can remember growing up with my daddy Yankees fan,
my grandfather watching Steinbrenner firing and hiring the same managers
over and over like a circus. I mean, Billy Martin
Munshrew hell over there. The Knicks have a lot of
good coaches in the pool to pick from still, though
all the firing at the end of this regular season
looks like top candidates are like Mike Brown, who who

(01:08:58):
let you know, the King's go this year and Taylor Jenkins,
who the Rizzy fired at the end of the month
the last month of the season.

Speaker 5 (01:09:06):
I should say, so, I have no clue.

Speaker 3 (01:09:08):
To end up going with, but the excitement is back
on Mstry after a good season deep running the playoffs
this year.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
Yeah, that's the weird part was there's some news that
some of the exit interviews with the players, they didn't
have the most glowing things to say about Tibbs, some
of them, and that might have led to James Dolan
being like, well, let's just get rid of the freaking guy.
It'd be funny if they brought on Mike Brown, who
he got run because he was in the King's opinion

(01:09:36):
like way too expressive saying hey, like calling out players
and press conferences and stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:09:42):
So right, you see where I'm going.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
It's kind of weird if what led you to get
rid of Tibbs was maybe at times not being as
player friendly as you would want, and you're gonna get
Mike Brown, who got ran for basically not being as
player friendly.

Speaker 4 (01:09:58):
It's like, what are we doing over here?

Speaker 5 (01:10:00):
Right? Interesting?

Speaker 4 (01:10:01):
Yeah, just it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:10:02):
But the Knicks just look like they're they're googling names, like, Hey,
who's the head coach in Atlanta?

Speaker 4 (01:10:09):
Just call him up?

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
They said, no too, I'll google the next name. When
they've gotten told no this many times. I don't know
what they expect to change, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
I think they just hope that I guess the name
carries weight, and that is the reason why you're right
it they should have Again, I think competent organizations sort
of already have a plan, and they fire TIBs with
no plan right, like not like no plan whatsoever. And

(01:10:40):
that to me feels like bad management, right, bad decision
making process. I don't like the process that got them here.

Speaker 4 (01:10:48):
Yeah, it's like the Knicks.

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
To me, they feel like a former supermodel that doesn't
realize they're no longer a current supermodel.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:10:57):
It just feels like they're like we're the Knicks.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
We'll just get rid of TIBs and it's gonna work
out great because we're the Knicks.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
And it's like, I just don't I don't like the process.
I thought the process is just not right here.

Speaker 4 (01:11:10):
Process is really bad.

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
And the processing is gonna cost him, you know, I
think the long term.

Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
Here, it's like Texas Holden Man, it feels like they
went all in with a really sketchy hand, expecting to whatever,
just luck out, and it's like, dude, you shouldn't be
going all in. You've got four to seven off suit.
What are you doing going all in on that you
can which?

Speaker 3 (01:11:32):
Now the World Series is going on over here. World
Series of Poker, Brian, Yeah, are you taking place in anything?
Is that why you bring up this poker analogy here?
Are you playing any poker in town?

Speaker 5 (01:11:42):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
I haven't been, but maybe that was in the back
of my mind. One of my buddies, Uh, Justin Cooper
is out here. He's the the producer of Ben Maller's
show here on Fox Sports Radio, and so he was
out here. He's playing in events. So we met up
last night and just hung out for a little while.
But maybe that's the poker reference came from Crack.

Speaker 4 (01:12:01):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:12:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:12:02):
The THEWSOP is out in Vegas here and it's a
big event and brings a lot of people from all
over the world.

Speaker 4 (01:12:09):
Do you play, Crack, Do you ever get in any
of those events?

Speaker 3 (01:12:13):
I haven't played in over a decade, but I am
planning to play. They have a fifty and over seniors
event they're calling a fifty so I just barely qualify.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
I'm gonna barely.

Speaker 5 (01:12:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:12:24):
I am going to jump in that this week, only
only because I want on my podcast. My sponsor offered
to pay for me and my co host entry, so
I said, all right, if you guys are going to
pay a thousand each, we'll take it.

Speaker 5 (01:12:38):
We'll be in there. So see here you go.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
Very nice.

Speaker 4 (01:12:42):
Yeah, we might have to enter the same tournament at
some time.

Speaker 5 (01:12:45):
Crack. Yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
So now let me ask you now, I'm boy, we're
live here on radio. Did did Dice come into the play?
Did any craps come in to the to the to
the last night?

Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
So no night out, no, no nothing, no just hanging
out and no gambling of any sort.

Speaker 5 (01:13:03):
I like Saturday night.

Speaker 3 (01:13:05):
Yeah, you know, Brian texts me pretty pretty late. It's like,
I'm going out. Wait, you're going out. We're going on
air in six hours. It's like, what do you mean
you're going out?

Speaker 4 (01:13:14):
Uh huh. I'm like what to send you guys? A
rundown early? And I know, you know, I know the
we hours.

Speaker 5 (01:13:20):
Yeah, I was being funny.

Speaker 2 (01:13:21):
I know, run down?

Speaker 4 (01:13:23):
What's that?

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
What rundown? I know Brian says a very lengthy email
about what we're talking about, and I probably just crack.
I just just do whatever we want on the show.
I feel bad for Brian.

Speaker 3 (01:13:35):
It is a spontaneous yea. It is like I didn't
plan to bring up the crap sessions, but.

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
Oh yeah, no doubt. Yeah, you gotta find the middle ground.
It's all great, all right.

Speaker 4 (01:13:43):
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Speaker 4 (01:14:34):
All right, let's do this.

Speaker 7 (01:14:36):
Prop it up player plays.

Speaker 4 (01:14:39):
Ah, yes, the prop betting market crack. You love it,
You're all about it? What do you have circled for
today or tomorrow?

Speaker 5 (01:14:47):
How much Jeff's gonna like this one?

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
I know you're on.

Speaker 3 (01:14:51):
Rebounds under but I would tend to agree with you
on the rebounds. But I do like the over points
and assists of twenty two and a half. So let's
go over points and assists for Siaka Pacers needing to score.
He's really the only Pacers I mean, I shouldn't say
the only matchup, but I think his his matchup stands up,
stands out compared to the matchup advantages here. He's done

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a great job getting to the free throw a line
this series six plus free throw attempts each game. He's
also getting doubled by the thunder on the post, so
that opens up some assist opportunities here.

Speaker 5 (01:15:26):
So I'll be going with over points and assists. Game five, Monday.

Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
Night, Okay, I again, I won't give out the under.
I get in the under rebounds, but I do look
under rebounds here. I'm gonna pull the other one I
like here after I believe I want to make out
the right numbers. I think I had it earlier. It
was ten and a half, so I'll make sure that
Obi Topping is still at ten and a half. It
is ten and a half. Obi Topping tonight Tomorrow night

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under ten and a half points. You look at at
what he is is his career seventeen points game one,
I think three, game two, Ryan every time he exceeds
about twelve thirteen points. Next game it's much under ten points.
So back on the road again, And I just don't
think Obi toppin on the road after a big game

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like to fade us some of those guys, and so
I think I'll take him under and that I think again,
I'm always has going to do some overs, but I
do think Caruso over ten and a half is something
I'm looking at for tomorrow. I haven't made it yet.
I have made the Obie topin one.

Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
Okay, you know, Jeff, this guy just did not come
through for you in game four. That would be Miles Turner.
But you know he's getting quality looks. He went over
his point total. It's thirteen and a half for game
five tomorrow night. He went over this in each of
the games in Okase. So I'm gonna play it one

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of these threes. If he hits a three like, we're
live for the over. He went over six and was
a whisker away from going over game.

Speaker 4 (01:17:00):
So I think he.

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
Goes over his point total, I'll play over thirteen and
a half. One thing that's interesting right here if you
kind of look at a couple of different markets. Right, So,
if you look at Miles Turner, his points prop is
thirteen and a half, which I just mentioned his points
and assists prop is up to fifteen and a half. Okay,
so you got those numbers in mind. Now, if you

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just look at his assists number, it's one and a half,
but you could get plus one forty on the over right,
So you see where I'm going here, it's kind of
we've got the shell game going on here. I'm not
trying to confuse anyone, but you might get a little
bit of value looking at the assists market just on
its own, it's plus one forty. Miles Turner has to

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have two assists. He's done that in two of the
four games. So if you get plus one forty and
it the market is kind of looking like that, you
might get some decent value where it's risen points an
assist to fifteen and a half. Where if you just
look at assists alone, it's a gross prop to play.
You're waiting around pretty much all game long for Miles

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Turner to pass it to someone who makes a shot.
But he's done it twice. He had four assists in
game two. A had two assists last game, so you're
live at plus one for him to get to assists.

Speaker 4 (01:18:19):
It's something worth considering. I'm just throwing it out there
to considers.

Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
Picking rolls when he gets the ball and then so
it just dumps it off, But it's not picking roll
they don't actually roll with on the high screen. Right,
he gets that ball in the high screen and tns
it off to Yeah, someone coming around the corner off
in Hollyburn gets a laying get you know, get it,
getna get a basket that way, he doesn't pass the
ball a lot when he gets that little pop though,
when he when he popped.

Speaker 4 (01:18:41):
On the top of the kid, he's going up.

Speaker 2 (01:18:42):
Yeah, it's going the ball. But otherwise, yeah, that's a
that's a good way to play it as well. So yeah,
I'm curious. I also I also thought about the Indiana
Pacers under their team total, but I feel like it's
just a that's a really tough wager to make.

Speaker 5 (01:19:02):
It is.

Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
They're they're just they don't go away, man. They they
just continue to just like right pack at you and
pack at you and pack at you, and makes it
really difficult to take any of their unders when it
comes to points scored.

Speaker 1 (01:19:17):
And it's so low, you know, it's basically their season
on the line here, and it's they got to get
to one oh six. Yeah I respect, Okay, see defense
like crazy, and they get an extra off day, they're
gonna be pesky. But with this, it's a got to
have a game to the Pacers and they're not gonna
drop one oh six.

Speaker 4 (01:19:38):
Really, that's a tough under to bet. I agree with you, Jeff.

Speaker 5 (01:19:42):
I'm sure thirteen totally like one oh seven and a half.

Speaker 4 (01:19:45):
Yeah, like one O five, one O six and a half.

Speaker 1 (01:19:47):
You could get it staggered a little bit, all right?

Speaker 4 (01:19:50):
Coming up next?

Speaker 1 (01:19:51):
How good are their chances going forward? Oh, welcome in,
Happy Sunday to you.

Speaker 4 (01:19:58):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:19:59):
NBA five Finals, Game five tomorrow night. The question is,
we know what the betting odds are. Ok see, is
a huge favorite in Game five, massive favorite to win
the series. Their minus six twenty five at bet MGM.
You have to risk six hundred and twenty five bucks
just to win one hundred dollars. That's how huge of

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a favorite they are. Do you think that this series
is a wrap right? Or put it better put? Do
you think that the Pacers have a legitimate chance, just
a legit chance to win the series? Jeff, what do
you think about that?

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
Of course they have a legit chance. That the games
have all been close outside of two, it is kind
of surprising to me that we've seen this number just
have not really moved. I mean it's gone from you know,
they won Game one, it went to like minus two
seventy five, went back up to minus three fifty, the
Thunder win Game two goes back up. It's been this,
this kind of roller coaster for the number, but I

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mean the Thunder had been you know, you get six
point favorites on the road, ten point favorites at home.
I think it's you know, are the Pacers gonna win
two of three, including being the Thunder again at home?
I think that the math seems difficult in this one,
So that's why I think the Thunder is so heavily favorite.

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But the way the Pagers have played it won't surprise me.
But I will say I think that it's in Brian,
you texted me this the other night. We were talking
about about the end of the game, and the Pacers
have had an extremely and luck might not be the
right word to use, but they have gotten the benefit

(01:21:43):
of the doubt, the luck, the mojo the end of
almost every game this postseason. They needed to have it.
It didn't happen yesterday, they did make a shot. I
think the last three minutes of the game or two
days ago. They're gonna get the benefit of doubt in
two of three more games.

Speaker 7 (01:22:02):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:22:02):
Again, I'm not that they can't do it, but the
point is that it just feels like the way they
win games where they don't really dominate all game, they
should just come and swoop at the end. That worries me.
That they can win two of the next three.

Speaker 10 (01:22:19):
Crack, Yeah, yeah, it's uh yeah, it's one of those
deals where they've done it already, like they've won.

Speaker 1 (01:22:30):
Two of the four, but to win two of the
next three, it's tough. This We've talked about this many times.
Crack Like, right where Jeff and I we I think
we're we're in agreement, Jeff, I don't think we believe
that Okay, she, okay, se should be that healthy of
a favorite to win this series. Correct, but like to

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so you're getting some value on the Pacers, you know,
like quote unquote value. But Crack, Like, Jeff and I
are of the belief you have to truly believe to
back the Pacers that there's a very legitimate chance that
they can win this series. And I don't. I don't
believe it's very legitimate. So I'm not making that bet.

Speaker 3 (01:23:12):
I come from a very old school knock around way
back East, and I use these terms because I'm going
to use even though I'm now my life is different
I'm mathematically based, algorithm analytics driven, but growing up back East,
I just can't help myself with these superstitions that are

(01:23:34):
they're not stupid stitions because they're real. And what is
real is betting against MUSHes, betting against Jonah and Jinx's.
And I got to tell you, I know one that
bet for the series but Indiana, and he just if
he had tomorrow's newspaper open and he's seen the results,

(01:23:54):
he still couldn't pull the trigger because you know what,
there's still a chance the paper is wrong.

Speaker 5 (01:24:00):
Know so.

Speaker 3 (01:24:00):
But however, that being said, that is now evened up
because we just heard Seamus talk about everybody is betting. Okay,
see now in the series everybody. So who's the biggest jinks?
I don't know, but I mean everyone now going to
the windows and it's over. It's over. It's over. But
to go back to your original question, do you give

(01:24:22):
them a legit chance? Of course, they're not two thousand
to one, they're six to one. I mean, believe it
or not. The series can still go either way. Any
any team could have won any games so far the series,
and these teams are even more literally they're more even
I should say, than their records even show. So I

(01:24:44):
think these next couple of games will be close and competitive,
and both teams are playing better defense at this point,
so okay, see definitely gain momentum the last five minutes
of Game four, I get it, but that easily can change.
So I still think the series might be more up
in the air, and people think. I hope we get
some good games anyway to close it out. I don't
want to see, okayc just blow them away and Indiana

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fold after after what happened at the end of the
last game.

Speaker 5 (01:25:09):
So we'll see what happens.

Speaker 3 (01:25:11):
Hopefully it's uh hopefully it's nipping tuck till the end.

Speaker 4 (01:25:14):
Yeah, I hope. So how about the coaching breakdown, Crag.

Speaker 1 (01:25:17):
I like this question that you came up with, Jeff,
how would you grade the coaching in the series so
far between Rick Carlisle Mark Dagnault.

Speaker 4 (01:25:27):
What's your report?

Speaker 2 (01:25:27):
Oh, Like, I mean, I think Carlole gets an a.
I think there's dagnall Is coaching like a guy who's
never been here before, right, and it's fair. He just
he Tigers with lineups a little bit too much in
my opinion. Like again, getting away from the lineup that
got you here seems foolish, but again he got to them.

(01:25:49):
He just started, you know, all start with the most
ultimal lineup that I have, and he's had to rotate
a little bit more than I think he would like to.
I mean, he's even talk now like, do you do
you start hard to see it again? Do you just
start Caruso immediately Like there's all these different things that
I think he's had to deal with different than Carlisle.
So I give him probably like a B I think

(01:26:10):
I give Carlisle. I mean, Carlisle has done an incredible
job this entire year, entire postseason of getting his team
in the right position for success. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:26:20):
Well, and let me ask you, I'll ask both of
you guys this, do you what emphasis do you put
on coaching compared to actual handicapping the players and the teams,
Because I'll tell you I think more should be on
coaching than there is. Most people just look at the
players and the teams and they don't look at the

(01:26:42):
history of coaching and how well they've done under stress
situations and stuff. Yeah, I'm just telling you that when
an originator puts together a game, puts together a bet
in key situations like these playoff situations. It comes down
to of course, the players talent, we know that, but

(01:27:03):
how a coach reacts compared to their previous history in
these type of situations or even stress situations as a
Dana is going to be facing here now. So it's
just something that probably should be put in the equation
a little bit more.

Speaker 2 (01:27:18):
Oh, I do a lot of it in football. I
don't know if I do so much of basketball because
I think the basketball, okay, you know, as JA can
just take over for ten minutes. I mean, we saw
yesterday in the WABA. We even talked about this. I
mean Ky mc clark just made three to three pointers
in thirty eight seconds. Yep, there's no coaching that, you

(01:27:38):
know what I mean like that, There's just some guys,
some players transcend that. And that's why I just don't
know how much. I mean, probably should do more of it, honestly, crack,
but I just don't.

Speaker 1 (01:27:46):
In basketball, yeah, I think absolutely you should factor it
in there.

Speaker 4 (01:27:51):
You just look at this series.

Speaker 1 (01:27:53):
The series is a great example of it, where dagnold
it didn't make sense before Game one, the starting lineup,
that just didn't make sense. He's acting like he's the
massive underdog and they won fifty some games instead of
sixty eight with the best point differential in the history
of the NBA. Like, why are you tinkering with the

(01:28:14):
starting lineup? I'll tell you this, that's something that Rick
Carlile would not have done. If Rick Carlile was the
head coach of OKC, he would not have made that
switch before Game one. And then Mark dagnolt he ran
with that adjusted lineup for the first three games. He
went with the double big lineup in Game four, so
it took three games to go back to the original
starting lineup. And yeah, that's that reeks of a coach

(01:28:37):
that hasn't been in the NBA Finals before. So just
right there had made an impact early on in the series.
There's no doubt you saw it in Game four when
you had both bigs on the floor for ok See,
they had a huge offensive rebound in crunch time, and
it's like, if you don't have those guys out there,
you might not have gotten that board, and you might
not have gotten that bucket right after that board. So yeah,

(01:29:00):
it absolutely should be factored in more than it is.

Speaker 2 (01:29:03):
Crack.

Speaker 4 (01:29:03):
I think there's a tendency.

Speaker 1 (01:29:04):
Some people just think that coaches in the NBA it's
like a DIMA does and there's not really any difference
from coach to coach.

Speaker 4 (01:29:12):
That is not true, Absolutely not true.

Speaker 3 (01:29:16):
Yeah, oh for sure, especially like I said this time
of the year. Listen, I don't know many guys. I've
worked with some of the sharpest sports betting syndicates in
the world, and not many are betting sides on NBA.
Like I said many times in different spaces over the year,
especially now during these.

Speaker 5 (01:29:37):
Playoffs, it's really tough.

Speaker 3 (01:29:38):
As you could see, like my co host on a
different show says, he calls it the price is right
plinko wherever the little buck lands into the space, and
it is a lot of Plinko going on in these
games here where like I said in ninety nine ninety two,
I turn it on and what called total collapse and
what happens at game time come down to the last

(01:30:01):
play of the game to determine the spread. That's sick.
That's really got a land on seven. That's so totally sick.

Speaker 4 (01:30:07):
It is, and it's wild how they got there.

Speaker 1 (01:30:10):
It's not just that it did, it's how they got
Like matherin fouling before the ball is inbounded, so you
just get one of.

Speaker 5 (01:30:17):
The throw crows.

Speaker 3 (01:30:19):
Oh my god, how about if you have plus six
six and a half on that game?

Speaker 5 (01:30:23):
You know that that's a terrible, terrible beat, you know, Okay,
see winning by seven?

Speaker 1 (01:30:29):
Oh my god, Jesus, yeah, that's and that's you know,
there's a baseball game. You know that you and Jeff
and Cracker on yesterday, right, and it's Jeff, you texted
me one time.

Speaker 4 (01:30:41):
It's like, how do you handicap for this?

Speaker 5 (01:30:43):
I feel like, yeah, it was Philly.

Speaker 2 (01:30:46):
It was the Phillies Blue Jays yesterday under first five
and the Phillies scored two runs inn where they got
the first to got the first two outs then walk
hit by pitch, walk hit by pitch. Oh my god,
so Philly scored two runs without even swinging the bat.

(01:31:07):
It's like, how do you now a hit because the
only four runs scored in the first five innings somehow,
But how do you account for that in a handicap?
How do you all the data you have, all the
information you have, how do you account for five straight
batters reaching based out swinging the bat?

Speaker 6 (01:31:26):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:31:26):
So like, sometimes you just have to just eat it.
It's just why gambling so fun. Everyone. You have to
just eat it sometimes, like you don't have the choice.
It's just it's just the way the cookie crumbles in
a given game.

Speaker 3 (01:31:40):
Still to win we want actually yeah, well yeah you
got lucky to win though even the fifth inning man
on second I think it was no ouch.

Speaker 2 (01:31:47):
No oh yeah it was so. I was with Bright
I were watching sackfly pop up and then like a
jam a jam shot that somehow dink it over the
second basement, said.

Speaker 5 (01:31:57):
Who was the guy that popped up?

Speaker 3 (01:31:58):
Though it was a big hit like shore bird or something,
just popped like just anything to the outfields to run.
So but however, though I'm sorry to say, I know
we only look at the games by the way we
bet them.

Speaker 5 (01:32:10):
That's one of the games where I really feel.

Speaker 3 (01:32:12):
That we should have won. Anyway, I just feel we
should have won. How do you have that inning where
they literally I don't think the Phillies had a hit
through four innings, but yet they had two runs. So
it was it was painful watching. But it's tough to watch,
it really is. It's tough to.

Speaker 5 (01:32:28):
Watch, Uh these things.

Speaker 3 (01:32:29):
How many times this season that have we uh, has
it come down to the literally the fifth inning and we.

Speaker 5 (01:32:36):
Get a loss.

Speaker 3 (01:32:37):
But that's the idea though, that's that's why it's five innings,
and that's when the pitchers get weak when they're approaching
you know, sixty seventy pitches eighty you know, whatever it
may be.

Speaker 2 (01:32:45):
It's a third time through the order. It's it's order
when it was working. It's really is really when it
gets gets pictures. So yea, yeah, yeah, Well I'm sure
we'll have a sweat again today, guys. Why you know,
it would be nice just like what day where I
just won like all five of my wagers, no sweat, Yeah,
that would be the dream. I mean, it's never gonna happen.

(01:33:06):
But how that should that be? Guys? If today, today's
the day where we just we put our wagers in
and they just no sweat, just boom, just done, How
about it happened.

Speaker 1 (01:33:18):
I don't want to ruin the positive mojo you have
going on here, Jeff, but when you're talking about the
you know, the Blue Jays Phillies game and some of
the gross things, how can you account for it? I
feel the same way about the end of Game four.
How can you if you're on pacers plus six and
a half account for what happened with Ben Mathern, how

(01:33:39):
but he's been so.

Speaker 2 (01:33:40):
Good though that I feel like you won a game
where at twenty seven points, you also have to sort
of accept that you're gonna have the nonmathering game, which
is that one.

Speaker 1 (01:33:49):
Yeah, you just hope that he pounce at the right time,
you know, because he missed three free throws and he
had two fouls before the ball was inbounded. Yeah, that's
a five point swing and it ended on seven points.
If you had plus six and a half you got hooked.
Those five points are freaking massive.

Speaker 2 (01:34:08):
It's brutal.

Speaker 1 (01:34:09):
Can you imagine if someone just called their shot before
the game? How crazy would that sound? You know, Like, yeah,
no one, no one's capable of saying that.

Speaker 2 (01:34:18):
The thing that also I think we have to sort
of discuss when it comes to like bad beats, is
there are times that it's not a bad beat. It
just it just you have a long shot wager and
that didn't hit. It doesn't mean it's a bad beat.
I feel like we used that word too much, but
like that, that's that's a pretty bad beat when you
miss five foul shots like that's that's that's out of
the ordinary, especially when your side has been covering all game.

(01:34:41):
You know, Brian, we were talking about my exotic Ken
Clark wager yesterday and yeah, I mean, Shi scored thirty
five points, I guess for twenty five in the first half,
and I would hit this, this is crazy exotic wager
that I just randomly put in. But like, it's not
a bad beat, Brian, I mean it was. It was
twenty nine to one. I mean is what it is

(01:35:02):
badb is a guy missing five foul shots and losing
a weight because of it.

Speaker 1 (01:35:06):
All Right, we've we've got breaking news right now with
Isaac Lohenkron.

Speaker 5 (01:35:10):
Let's do that breaking news from Fox Sports.

Speaker 8 (01:35:16):
We've got a trade in the NBA. ESPN just reporting
that the Memphis Grizzlies are trading Desmond Bane to the
Orlando Magic in exchange for Kentavious Caldwell, Pope, Cole Anthony,
four unprotected first round draft picks and one first round pick.

Speaker 2 (01:35:34):
Swap. Guys.

Speaker 4 (01:35:35):
Wow, interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:35:37):
You know, I was saying, if you're looking at the
Pacers and OKC and how it's a bunch of draft picks,
not premium picks. I'm wondering if there's gonna be a
ripple effect where teams try to build more so through
the draft right and develop that depth instead of just
giving away picks left and right, and here we go
Desmond Bane, who's a good player, but four first round picks,

(01:36:00):
they're just like here you go, Dakum, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:36:03):
I felt first round picks just are people or teams
just are not as they just don't care as much
as maybe we care about the first round picks.

Speaker 1 (01:36:12):
Yeah, you know, we'll do this coming up because if
you look at both teams in the finals, it's something
to keep in mind for other teams that are trying
to build depth.

Speaker 5 (01:36:22):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:36:22):
So we'll get to that.

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I loo breaking news here. Grizzlies trading Memphis. Grizzly is
trading Desmond Baine to Orlando. Get a couple of players,
but the picks stand out. Four unprotected first round picks
and one first round pick swap, Like that's a lot.
Desmond Bain is a good player, but you think it's

(01:37:48):
like puts Orlando over.

Speaker 4 (01:37:50):
The top, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:37:52):
Like, I get you want to build a round ban
Caro and that that's fine, but that's a lot of
picks for Desmond Baine and I just look at the
finals here, and if you look at the rosters of
Indiana and OKAC, there's two ways to look at it.
One is they only have a couple of guys that
were top ten picks on both rosters, right, and that's it.

Speaker 4 (01:38:17):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:38:17):
You could look they've made some trades, right, just like
Orlando did. They made some trades here and there to
beef up their roster. So you could either look at
it and say, hey, you might want to value your
picks a little bit more because you can find good
players in the draft, not just like the top five
players and that's the only players that make an impact

(01:38:38):
or get major minutes.

Speaker 4 (01:38:39):
It's not true.

Speaker 1 (01:38:40):
So you can look at it that way. Or I
could look at it and say, well, hey, Oka, see
in Indiana, their rosters would look completely different if they
just held onto their picks like their gold and never
made any moves. They are really two ways to look
at it, but I do find it's interesting, right, Like
if you look at OKC they're only top ten picks.
You have Chet Holmes Grin and you have Cason Wallace.

(01:39:02):
That's freaking it. They don't have anybody else with the
roster that's a top ten pick. Indiana, the guys that
get minutes, top ten picks. It's Ben Mathern and it's
Obie Topping. Jarris Walker is a top ten pick. He
doesn't get minutes and he's banged done.

Speaker 4 (01:39:17):
But that's it. Like, think about those Rocks.

Speaker 1 (01:39:19):
These are finals teams and they only have a couple
of top ten picks. And meanwhile, Orlando just gave out
basically five picks, five first.

Speaker 4 (01:39:29):
Rounders for Desmond Bane. It's like, okay, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:39:33):
I don't get NBA trades. He's twenty. In the NFL,
when a player gets traded, we often are like, that's
all they got, right, They're like they got like a
trash can and a Washington machine, a seventh round pinck conditional.
If a player plays ninety seven percent of snaps, You're like,
what is happening in the NBA, They're just like, take

(01:39:55):
all of mine, take all my picks. Yeah, I don't
want him anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:39:58):
I'm like what and years from now, years from now
when who knows that you could bottom out, you could
make a big trade and lose a ton of games,
and these are valuable picks.

Speaker 4 (01:40:08):
You have no idea.

Speaker 2 (01:40:09):
So I also don't get the pickswap thing. I don't
get that. I don't get the aprin I get like
none of the NBA things that we should care about.
I mean, I get the apron. It's a hard tap,
but it's like it seems ultra confusing for just no reason,
just to make it hard. I think it's why people

(01:40:30):
some people. I just like the NFL. It's not very complicated.

Speaker 3 (01:40:33):
How many times is it internal squabbles or an internal
thing that we don't know about? Like maybe there's a
little bit now, Jeff, you may know more like with
the NFL, does that is it sometimes that happens? We're
just that it's not out there in public. But the
players I'm happy with the team or unhappy.

Speaker 2 (01:40:51):
With, Well, yeah, I mean it's certainly possible that that's
that happened. I mean in the NFL, I think that's
pretty widely known if your players upset. I mean, we
have a rookie right now calling out a team, which
is kind of wild. We haven't talked about that much
yet Brian with Sjamar Stewart. But yeah, I mean maybe
Bain was unhappy, I guess. But if you're giving up

(01:41:11):
this much, it does feel like someone called and was like, hey,
we would like Desmond Bayan please.

Speaker 1 (01:41:17):
It feels a lot like the mckel bridges trade. Mckel
bridges went over to the Knicks. We're talking like five
picks for mckel Bridges is a good player, but five picks.

Speaker 4 (01:41:29):
I feel the same way.

Speaker 5 (01:41:30):
About Desmond Bain.

Speaker 4 (01:41:31):
He's a good player, But my gosh, that's a lot
to give up for the guy.

Speaker 10 (01:41:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:41:36):
I don't want to bombard you with It's gonna sound
like white noise if I give you too many players.
But I do think it's interesting if you look at OKAC.
Let's take them because they had the best record in
the league, right, sixty eight wins. They're over eighty wins.
You combine their playoff wins, best point differential in the
history of the NBA, if you like, look at their

(01:41:57):
roster right from the standpoint of t teams valuing their picks. Okay,
this is what OKC has so shake Gilges Alexander League MVP,
eleventh overall draft pick, you know, not first overall, not
top five, eleventh. You look at Jalen Williams twelfth overall.
Hartenstein was the second rounder forty third overall. Now he

(01:42:21):
got traded there, Right, these are not homegrown all these players. Obviously,
Aaron Wiggins gets minutes fifty fifth overall pick, second rounder, right,
Isaiah Joe gets minutes forty ninth overall, a second rounder.
You just throw away second rounders like it's nothing, Like,
these are guys that get minutes on the best team

(01:42:41):
in the league this season. Yeah, Lou Dort and Alex
Caruso are undrafted guys. So the point is there tends
to be this. There's this tendency where NBA teams and
certainly fans think you can only find difference makers at
the very top of the draft and then freaking forget it.

Speaker 4 (01:42:59):
And that's just not true. It's absolutely not true.

Speaker 1 (01:43:02):
It's not easy to find those guys that even get
minutes and are in the rotation. They're starters, but they're
out there, and yet teams are still willing to just
be like, yeah, take them five first rounders.

Speaker 4 (01:43:13):
Sounds great.

Speaker 2 (01:43:15):
Maybe they had something, Maybe they had like a sky
report on Baying that they just love from the pre
draft process themselves or someone just like it's it's possible
those things happen where there's just like a love afest.
You just don't know why, but the general managers see
so much in that player. It's I mean, it's stally possible.
I guess.

Speaker 4 (01:43:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:43:33):
I wonder if like a Moneyball situation is going on
here with the NBA. You don't know what's behind Like
I listen. I know it's not like the like MLB,
and I love Moneyball the movie though, but I watch
every baseball season. But you don't know if like book
goes on, these these little players that no one looks at,
like like like Brian just mentioned, uh, you know that
these guys were undrafted. How can they have gotten passed

(01:43:57):
up by by so many different organizations?

Speaker 2 (01:43:59):
So interesting?

Speaker 10 (01:44:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:44:01):
Absolutely, Hey, someone else who's always interesting. That would be
Isaac Lowenkron. He's got the latest. He just broke news
of a trade going down here. Who knows what he's
got in this one? What's going on?

Speaker 4 (01:44:11):
I low Yeah, that's the really big story.

Speaker 8 (01:44:14):
And I think kind of like you guys fans out
there are still it took a minute for people to
process this trade. But now, let me tell you, social
media is up in arms as ESPN reported that the
Memphis Grizzlies are trading Desmond Bane to the Orlando Magic
in exchange for Kentavious Caldwell, Pope Cole Anthony for unprotected

(01:44:39):
first round draft picks and one first round pick swap.
I'll tell you what, guys, why don't we take a
little sampling of the instant reaction and feedback to this
trade on social media?

Speaker 5 (01:44:52):
You ready?

Speaker 4 (01:44:53):
Oh yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:44:54):
All right?

Speaker 8 (01:44:54):
At Tea the gamer comment and quote for bleeping first
round picks? What the helly at og and Anobi addict
adding for unprotected first round picks for who at Tommy
Underscore Marion adding throwing away your future for a third

(01:45:18):
option is a genius idea at buy Me a Watch.
Memphis got more for Bane than the MAVs for Luca lmao.

Speaker 2 (01:45:29):
Luca. One is never gonna knock out the standard of like,
what are we doing here? Guys? What are we doing?

Speaker 5 (01:45:35):
Along those lines?

Speaker 8 (01:45:36):
At brunsham Og commenting quote since when did Nico Harrison
get hired by the Magic? And finally at Trojan Cousin
posting moments ago quote This is like trading away Brad Pitt,
Chris Hemsworth, Ryan Gosling, and Timothy Chalomey for Isaac Lohenkron.

(01:45:57):
What the hell man get dragged into this? I'm blocking
at Trojan Cousin anyway. In Game five of the Stanley
Cup Final on Saturday night, the Florida Panthers won an
Edmonton five to two for a three games to two
lead behind two goals by Brad marshand Game six of
the Stanley Cup Final on Tuesday at Florida, and in golf,

(01:46:18):
after three rounds of the US Open, Sam Burns as
a one shot lead at four under par overall over
Adam Scott, It'll be Burns and Scott teaming off the
final round at two fifteen Eastern time. I'm gonna file
a complaint against at Trojan Cousin for now.

Speaker 4 (01:46:33):
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Speaker 1 (01:46:52):
Wherever you get your podcasts, and you'll see this show
posted right after we get off the air. Jeff, you
mentioned this in passing, But Caitlin Clark back Indiana fever,
and she was balling yesterday man thirty two points. She
was seven for fourteen from three some deep threes, logo threes.
She had eight rebounds, nine assists. I just started thinking

(01:47:12):
about it like this, where there are times in sports
where you have storyline athletes and you have difference maker athletes,
and Caitlin Clark is both. She's a storyline and she's
absolutely a difference maker. But you start thinking about it, like,
you know, Aaron Rodgers. We've talked about him quite a bit.

(01:47:33):
Aaron Rodgers is a storyline. He's not a difference maker
at this point of his career. What made him special
is getting outside the pocket, extending plays, throwing off platform.
He's been too banged up. He's not that same guy anymore.
He's good, but to be a big time difference maker
in the AFC, you think he's going toe to toe
with like Mahomes and Josh Allen and Burrow and Lamar.

Speaker 4 (01:47:56):
And on and on. No, he's not.

Speaker 1 (01:47:57):
He's a storyline. He's not a difference maker. Angel Reese
is a storyline. She's not a difference maker. She's a
great rebounder.

Speaker 4 (01:48:04):
That's it. That's all right. So that's the thing when
you get the best of both worlds.

Speaker 1 (01:48:09):
I think we often confuse, Hey, this person's being talked
about a lot, they must be making a big difference.
Not necessarily, No, But Caitlin Clark's that example where she
is both.

Speaker 2 (01:48:21):
So Angel Reese made a video talking about that account
on TikTok that started calling her offits or rebounds to me, bounds, Okay.
She put a video saying like, thank you for this.
It's clever. I'm going to basically make money off of
it now that I'm gonna use this like to my advantage, right,

(01:48:41):
And it's a great example of sort of the critics
of Angel Reese saying you care more about other things
in basketball, like how many other players are making videos
about a dude on TikTok who makes fun of them,
Like that's not a thing that anyone does. And you

(01:49:06):
look at Kitlyn Clark, and this is what makes there's
many things that make like the Goats right greatest of
all time, Like these special athletes. I've been forgud toough
to play with some that have been like that, that
have been close to special. What are their superpowers is
their ability a to mostly never get hurt, but b

(01:49:28):
when they do get hurt, return like nothing happened. A
lot of players come back from an injury, missing three
weeks and their minutes are cut and then you know
the little they stumbled out, a little bit long coordinated,
you know, take a little bit time to get it
the flow of things. It took Clark like she got
a little early break or break early than usual in
the middle of first quarter, came back and made three

(01:49:49):
three pointers in thirty eight seconds, had twenty five at
the half. And that's just another example of the special
talent that she is. Is the superstars, the greats, the
elites of goats, when they come back from injury, it's
like it never happened. And I'm gonna make this plead.
I know that I'm sure the Indiana Fever, her teammates

(01:50:12):
are listening to our show this morning. I'm gonna make
this plea, please make your layups. Oh okay, yeah, like
I Clark's It's so funny how Clark went over her
assists Crack yesterday. It's one of my favorite wagers to
make in WNBA. And she went over because a bunch
of her teammates made three pointers when she passed them

(01:50:33):
the ball, not because of the seven miss layups they had,
not seventh exaggerating it, but I think it's fair to say, Brian,
there were four uncontested layups that were missed off Clark
passes yesterday. Oh absolutely, just and you mentioned this, it's
very true. Like you look at the Liberty, the Links,

(01:50:54):
some of these upper echelon teams, they make those layups,
Like the Liberty did not miss zero layups yesterday. They
make all their layups. Yeah, and yet the Fever, Kelsey
and Against they're smaller. I get at Kelsey Mitchell's a
point guard. Lexi Hall's not known for that. But like,
you can't miss point blank layups and want to win championships. So, uh,

(01:51:17):
it was fun to watch Clark yesterday. They play the
Sun next, that number is gonna be like fifteen and
a half. I would, I mean, what's it? I probably
can look it up right now. Sun are terrible, but
it's time to have the Indiana back. It's just exciting, man,
Clark's an exciting player. I don't know what else will
say about it. I don't know how much you were
watching yesterday, crack, but uh, she's the fun player. Man.

(01:51:37):
It's fun to watch her play, and she makes the
league more fun and more entertaining.

Speaker 5 (01:51:42):
Oh of course.

Speaker 3 (01:51:43):
I mean, she's the face of the WNBA and is
already probably the best player and then only her second year.
Some of these shots she's hitting from the logo are
just like ridiculous. I mean, but I'm a sports better. Yeah,
so I look to bet again public faces. Not that
the w NBA is that has that much, but she

(01:52:05):
has brought this w NBA league out there to front
and center on a lot of different sports programs and
talking about it and of course because you can bet
on it, so so that that is what I'm looking
at from a sports betting standpoint. And yeah, like I said,
it really is a fun time right now for even
w n B A.

Speaker 1 (01:52:26):
You know what, it's kind of interesting to me, I'll
say real fast, because we have picks to make at
the end here.

Speaker 4 (01:52:32):
But the Angel Reese.

Speaker 1 (01:52:37):
Detractors, and there are a ton of them out there,
and it's some of the things that they say, are
you know, over the top. But what's interesting to me
is sometimes there's an effect where people think they're going
to be lumped into that, where they're just making an observation.
It's not personal whatsoever, but they think, well, I'm just

(01:52:59):
gonna be label to hate, so you know, I'm just
gonna take the high road.

Speaker 4 (01:53:02):
I'm not gonna say that. That's not good either. That's
not good either. Like, just say what you have to say.
Don't make it personal.

Speaker 1 (01:53:10):
If someone mistakes it for something it's not, there's nothing
you can do about it. But if we're talking about
impact on teams and you're looking at Caitlin Clark versus
Angel Reese, it's not even close. It's not even remotely
close the impact that Caitlyn has on the fever compared
to Angel on the sky.

Speaker 4 (01:53:30):
And that's not personal whatsoever. I get it.

Speaker 1 (01:53:33):
There are some personal cheap shots, and there are videos
for days about Angel Reese missing shots or I saw
a creative one the other day.

Speaker 4 (01:53:40):
It was just some of them are just funny.

Speaker 2 (01:53:41):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:53:42):
She's on a cereal box and the guy's trying to
throw it into the grocery basket, the grocery cart and
he's missing. It's like his hitting the side of the
cart and it falls to the floor and he tries
to throw it right like that sort of stuff. Some
of it is creative and funny. Some of it is
just like, wow, man, you guys are going after this scirrel.
Gun's blazing, you know, And there's a tendency to shy

(01:54:04):
away from that. Stuff happens all the time, not just
the WNBA, could be the NFL, could be this quarterback.

Speaker 4 (01:54:09):
He takes a lot of heat.

Speaker 1 (01:54:11):
If I say, wow, he's stunk it up that game,
people are gonna think I'm a hater.

Speaker 4 (01:54:14):
I'm not gonna say it. It's like, no, you got
you gotta state your opinion.

Speaker 2 (01:54:17):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:54:17):
You can't shy away from that stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:54:19):
But I feel like there's a lot there's an effect
where you get a lot of sugar coated stuff because
of that.

Speaker 5 (01:54:25):
In any event.

Speaker 4 (01:54:26):
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Speaker 4 (01:55:48):
Rapid fire all right, crack, we start with you. What's
something you like?

Speaker 3 (01:55:54):
Well over at bet MGM they have fantastic odds and
the matter of fact, the best odds anywhere. I look
on my odd screen, twins and Astros, first five under
four and a half even, no juice juices on the
over it's four and a half over thirty under four
and a half even, first five Astros, twins.

Speaker 5 (01:56:11):
I expect the tight first.

Speaker 3 (01:56:13):
Five there today and then that'll be my first pick here.
I got one more coming up in after you, guys.

Speaker 2 (01:56:19):
I'm right, okay. I like Braves over five and a
half runs today against the Rockies, Rocky Pitcher making us
first start of the season. Well, hot ball travels a
lot in the South when it's hot today, So I
like Braves over five and a half runs in the
in the game.

Speaker 1 (01:56:38):
Okay, I'm looking at tomorrow night. I'm looking at the
Pacers team total.

Speaker 4 (01:56:45):
I'm gonna hit it. I'm gonna go over one oh.

Speaker 5 (01:56:48):
Six and a half.

Speaker 4 (01:56:50):
Listen, I get it. If you look at the first
two games, just as a point of reference, the Pacers
have done nothing in the first half.

Speaker 1 (01:56:58):
They've gotten smoked. They they have not scored very many points.
And then the second halves. Both games they scored a lot.
But I just look at Game five. It's the quote
unquote pivotal Game five. They just had a golden opportunity
slipped through their fingers in the fourth quarter of Game four.
I totally respect Okc's defense, and with an extra day

(01:57:20):
of rest, they're going to be a handful. But I
just look at the Pacers, where like we always talk
about the zig zag spot, this is a great zig
zag opportunity, and you're telling me in what's close to
a do or die situation.

Speaker 4 (01:57:36):
It's not that far, but it's it's a really important game.

Speaker 1 (01:57:41):
If you could get this game, you're cooking with threes,
all of a sudden, you've got a chance to win
the finals if you win Game five at home. In
Game six, that's what's on the line for the Pacers,
and their offense is going to be so anemic they
don't get to one oh seven.

Speaker 4 (01:57:54):
I just don't buy it.

Speaker 1 (01:57:55):
I'll take over the Pacers team total over one oh
six and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:58:00):
You're right on this one. As much as you want to.
The under the just they seem to just always stick around, man,
They're just always there. They're sticky.

Speaker 1 (01:58:08):
I call them the zombies of the sports world. Right,
they just keep coming after you. They're staggering around, but
they're still coming after you. We got Cracks play of
the day.

Speaker 5 (01:58:17):
Let's do this.

Speaker 1 (01:58:19):
This is the best play of the day, all right,
Crack here we're bearing more gifts.

Speaker 3 (01:58:25):
Are you ever gonna put this on the same level
though of you know, play of the day? Who comes
football season? I love doing that in the NFL. Kind
of put these at the same level here today as
the Minnesota used in first five under.

Speaker 5 (01:58:37):
Let's stick with this super hot team.

Speaker 3 (01:58:39):
I mean, what a comeback yesterday Arizona, Arizona side, Arizona
over San Diego on the money on the money line.

Speaker 5 (01:58:46):
Uh, that's what I'll have here.

Speaker 3 (01:58:48):
Also, they just gott to tell you a couple of
other things, guys, So enjoy today with the live wagering
on the golf. Enjoy some of these and root for
one of these guys that you know, don't win a
lot tournaments, still not, don't you know? Get these seven
figure paychecks.

Speaker 5 (01:59:04):
I'll be doing that.

Speaker 3 (01:59:05):
And then back to back we have NHL NBA the
next few days for NBA, first NBA NHL. What a
great time of the year, even though it's the summer,
it's not the dog daves this summer.

Speaker 5 (01:59:15):
This is some nice days we have here.

Speaker 1 (01:59:17):
Absolutely, I think both championship series have been great so far,
so we're hoping for more drama like Game five last
night in hockey was was not the closest of games,
but sure the series has been outstanding. You think about
some of these game tying goals with like twenty seconds
to go and overtime, it's been tremendous. So hopefully we're

(01:59:38):
in store for much more of that. All right, pleasure
being with you guys, Thank you all for listening. Enjoy
the day, we'll catch it soon.

Speaker 4 (01:59:45):
Have a good one.

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