Andy Furman & Bucky Brooks Talk Sophie Cunningham WNBA Expansion, Kershaw's 3000th K, The State Of The Pittsburgh Steelers, And More!!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Oh you know what, it's a ticking time bomb. It's
a time bomb.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
I will explain all about it in just about a minute.
Good morning, Happy July sixth, Yes, July sixth, that's today.
I hope you're still recovering. This is Andy Firmer, my
partner Bucky Brooks, and we are Fox Sports Sunday and
Fox Sports Radio broadcasting life from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
And away we go.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Here he is, as the aforementioned partner was mentioned, my friend,
my buddy, the one and only, Bucky Brooks. Bucky, how you.

Speaker 4 (00:31):
Doing, I'm Grinham. Great. What's going on? Andy?

Speaker 2 (00:33):
You know they're still shooting fireworks in my neighborhood. I
don't get it.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
You know.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
To me, you might as well take a couple of
dollar bills, roll them up and burn them. I don't
understand it. What is the purpose? I love a fireworks show,
I honestly do. I'll go to these big shows in
the parks at baseball games they have the touchdowns and
football games. I got fireworks. I love it. But they
shoot them off in your backyard and spend hundreds two
hundred five hundred dollars and just burn it up. Take
a roll of quarters, take a roll of dimes, put

(00:58):
them all together, put a match to it and burn them.
Really think about it. What do you do that? Do
you set up fireworks too?

Speaker 5 (01:05):
I am not a fireworks fan. I've never been either thing.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
And I see the news on TV yesterday how many
people lost their fingers? Do the fireworks, you know, injured burns,
things like that. Let the professionals do it, do the
professional shows. They're still doing it. It's July the sixth,
shooting fireworks off. I don't get it, but I will
say this, the fourth of July. I hope you had
a great one with your family. Did you Did you.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
Do a little bit?

Speaker 6 (01:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:30):
It was great, great, no good clients.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Fourth of July known for one thing and one thing only.
And it's not fireworks. And it's not fireworks. You know
what it is. You know what it is, Bucket Brooks.
You know it's the Nathan's famous fourth Fourth of July
hot dog getting contest and Nathan's famous near my old
neighborhood in Coney Island in Brooklyn, right and defending champion
Joey Jaws Chestnut. Now I watched this on TV, and

(01:56):
to me, it's nauseating. He's shoving down seventy and a
half hot dogs in ten minutes. I had two hot
dogs the other day in the fourth of July. I
was full. I don't get it. Okay, seventy hot dogs.
His record was seventy six back in nineteen well in
twenty twenty one. The question I have for you, Bucky Brooks,
because you're a true sportsman, you're a renaissance man, you're
a coach, you're an athlete, you know it all. You

(02:17):
have all the answers. That's all we have ask Bucky
on this show. I want to know, is hot dog
eating a sport? Is that a sport? Because I know
that they treated as a sport. I guess it's on
the four lettered Network. Perhaps it's a sport. I don't
know that pillow fighting on the sport. They have all
these things on there is hot dog eating a sport?

Speaker 4 (02:36):
Gosh?

Speaker 5 (02:38):
I say no because I'm not into competitive eating.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
I know they showed on the Worldwide Leader.

Speaker 5 (02:44):
I just don't consider it a sport, and I don't
really have a reason as to why. It just seems
odd to me that consuming food would be considered a sport,
and no matter how you do it, it just didn't
be kind of had to call that a sport.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Well, I'll say this, it has all the elements of
a sport. This competition you're going against the clock is time,
and you require I guess it requires training. I mean
all sports required requires training. I guess eating competitive eating
requires some sort of training. Because they watered down the
hot dogs and shove them down. They don't even chew them.
I don't think so. I guess it could be on

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the outskirt, the outskirts of a sport.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
The next question I have for you, would you consider
Joey Chestnut an athlete?

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Is he an athlete?

Speaker 2 (03:29):
I mean, he looks like he's in pretty good shape,
considering a guy eats like a slob?

Speaker 3 (03:33):
Really, M.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
I mean I can't. I can't take him as an athlete.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
I mean, you're an athlete.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
You stand side by side the Joey Chestnut, It will
be embarrassing for you to be next to him and
they call him an athlete and you're an athlete.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
To me, that that would be embarrassing, wouldn't it to me?

Speaker 4 (03:51):
Yeah? Yeah, that's a different. That's a different deal. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
However, I did look up the definition of an athlete
just to be just to be sure, said, and an
athlete there's a person who is proficient in sports.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
So that's the question idea.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
We don't know.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
If eating is a sport and other forms of physical exercise,
often participating in organized competitions, he may very well be
on the border, like his face pressed against the glasses,
being an athlete, okay, And they typically possess physical strength.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
If he does speed you don't need speed needing, maybe
you do. You have to shove him down quickly.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
I don't know. Agility and stamina. I guess he has that.
So I don't know he's on the border of being
an athlete.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
I don't know, but I would say this, He's won
seventeen times in twenty appearances at Nathan's with the hot
Dog deal. Okay, so he's dominated this activity or sport.
Does he does? Here's the question of today. Does he
deserve a statue at Nathan's? Why do I say that?
Because his statue is all over the place. Everybody's good statues,

(04:51):
you know, Lebron James's got to get one. Everybody who's
played the game at a high level gets a statue.
Does Joey Chester deserves a statue in front of Nathan's
famous hot dogs standing Corney Island, Brooklyn? I would have
to say, yes, he's dominating.

Speaker 5 (05:04):
That we can give him a statue in front of
the hot dogs sent I mean, I mean I know
that the title sponsor. Look, man, if he's an all timer,
like you talk about seventeen out of twenty or eighteen
out of twenty half he's won. And what I guess
we're dubbing as a sport, Yeah, give him credit for
being the best of.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
The best when it comes to mowing down hot dogs.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Well, he plays the best of the best. I mean,
I watch it and I just you don't even feel
like eating after watching that? You really don't. It's kind
of disgusting, it really is. But we move on, all
right now, Let's talk about this ticking time bomb. I
talked about it, and that basically is gambling. And if
you didn't think you'd see it coming, you're out of
your mind. And I'm not saying I have firsthand knowledge,

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but for many years of my life I worked at racetracks.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
I was a pr guy trying to publicize.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Racetracks, greyhound greyhound racing, harness racing, thoroughbred racing. I even
worked at a highlight fronton for a little bit in Florida, all.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
Right, and I've seen it, you know.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
I worked at a dog track, a greyhound track in
West Memphis, Arkansas, whether they had believe it or not,
triple headers, three race cards a day and had a
special window for people to cash their unemployment checks. That's
how really gambling has hit. I mean, if you've seen it,
you've seen gamblers. I mean, just just the.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
Way it is.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
And now it's come to the games. Its come to
professional baseball, come to the NBA, and you knew what
was going to happen. It's not a surprise. If you're surprised,
then you're living with your head in the sand.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
You really are.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
And the sports commissioners, obviously they couldn't resist the green cabbage,
the money. Now they have the problems. Okay, let's talk
about the Toronto Raptors. Is for John Tay Porter. He's
got the lifetime ban. Now. Malik Beasley, they claimed now,
but they claim that there was some questioning about how
many rebounds he was getting at a game as far
as Gamble is concerned, I think it's out of control.

(06:56):
But I don't know what they could do. I don't
know what it's what commissioners could do. Malik Beasley who
probably thrown out of the game as well. It's disgusting,
it really is, and I don't think anybody should be
surprised because it's all over the place.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
I don't know how you stop it.

Speaker 4 (07:10):
Yeah, I don't know how you stop it.

Speaker 5 (07:11):
And you know, today I would say like the lines
are so blurred for young people coming up because I
would say the closeness or the proximity of fantasy football
with daily gambling, you know, like the daily Fantasy Bats
or the daily Best that you can get on your phone.
You can touch an app, you can click on it.
The access is there is so easy that I think

(07:34):
it's hard sometimes for young people, younger adults, to distinguish
between fantasy sports and gambling, and it's hard for them
to understand.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
Why one is good and the other is bad when they've.

Speaker 5 (07:48):
Grown up participating in both, whether it's monetarily for monetary
gain or not, and when the leagues open up their
coffers because of greed to sports books and daily fantasy,
daily gambling adventures. They open themselves up to that because
you know ultimately it was going to get to the players.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
And now we have these.

Speaker 5 (08:12):
Situations where you worry about the integrity of the game
being impacted because you have players who are gambling on themselves,
on their teams, on other teams.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
Look, man, it's just a bad look. It's a bad
look on the sport.

Speaker 5 (08:25):
But this is what we knew was coming when you
allowed major sports leagues to partner up with these gambling entities.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
There's no doubt about that. And look, now I got
to Miami Terry Rosier. He has mediumulated his performance as
part of an illegal betting scheme, although Rosier and Beasley
have not been charged with the crime yet, but the
question is there and what it has done. Now as
far as people who may be casually wager, and there
are people that do that on their phone. Maybe perhaps

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you go to a game, guy goes in there, missus
a layup. You start scratching your head, say was it intentional?
You know it, did he actually miss it or did
he miss it because you know he wants to maybe
get the point level down or he's told to miss it.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
I'm not a gamble I've all these racing facilities that
I worked at. I really if I put maybe ten
dollars total in my life on wagers, that's what I did.
It doesn't excite me, but I understand for some people
that makes out adrenaline.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
Go.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
Now, you played the game, and you've been around guys, and.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
You were there probably before it really got big time gambling,
but there was obviously ways that one could gamble. Did
you see or hear anybody in the locker room talking
about gambles or did gambles even approach you guys as
players when you played.

Speaker 5 (09:39):
No, that was a long time ago, and it's such
a different life, Like it was so taboo to discuss
gambling or so taboo to be around gambling. And at
that time, I mean you're talking about like a nineties,
early two thousands, Like no one was involved in that
theme because you were scared to People talked about Paul Horning,
They talked about Alex Carris and those scandals that were
part of the league in the early inception of the

(10:02):
National Football League, And I mean, you didn't really have anything.
Ur Schleister was talked about you know, dispairers and disgrace
during this time with the Colts, but that was it
though you didn't really have these things. Today's generation is
different just because of the access and the availability and
how easy it is for anyone to gamble.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
You know, it's just so easy to.

Speaker 5 (10:27):
Kind of fall prey to that that I think some
of these players that are in the league have already
started to formulate gambling habits before they even get into
the league. These things sometimes start high school college because
of look, man, I'll say, the same thing that makes
you great can be your fatal flaw. And there's a
competitive nature to gambling that appeals to the sensibilities of athletes.

Speaker 4 (10:54):
It's just one of those things.

Speaker 5 (10:55):
And now you're talking about the debts that have been
wrung up because of this part of it. But gambling
has always been a part of pro sports culture, but
it existed differently. There were card games that happened on
planes and then hotels and those things that fed that
competitive fire and itch.

Speaker 4 (11:13):
But now it's spilling over into.

Speaker 5 (11:14):
Areas that you can't have your players participating in because
now it impacts the product.

Speaker 4 (11:19):
And the way to the product on the floor is viewed.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
It's funny you mentioned Alex Karras and Paul Horning. I mean,
when they basically were slapped around, it was not for
gambling as much as working in a casino, wasn't it.
If I recall that they were told that they couldn't
work as like greeters in a casino, I don't think
they were actually gambling. And they were suspended by the
NFL for a year then they came back. That was
kind of crazy because there's really no gambling involved, but
just the association of being in a casino at that time.

(11:45):
But getting back to the NBA, this kid, Malik Beasley,
before this thing happened, before it busted, before he soda
got busted here, he agreed to a new forty two
million dollar contract to remain with the Detroit Pistons. So
you know, people are going to say, why would you
scratch your head and and gambling and throw that away.
It is a disease, There's no doubt in my mom
because it's kind of like you have to do it.

(12:07):
I mean, and some of these plate people when I
worked at racetracks, I saw they were down and out
and I figured, what the heck if I'm down X
amount of dollars, I'm as well, just let it all
roll there. Maybe I could, you know, gain it back.
And what's the difference if I lose even a little more.
Just just the way their attitude is. I guess they
just throw it out to the wind and they just
let it go, and they're down and out and they're just.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
It's sad, it really is said.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
But you know, when it touches athletes that are making millions,
then you got to say to yourself, they need to
be I guess taught to a counselor. And I always
thought the NFL in particular had some sort of a
director of not human resources, but someone that could like
teach these kids, like how to write a check, you know,

(12:53):
how to handle finances, things like that. I always thought
the Cincinnati Bengals had someone like that. I thought it
was Eric Ball. As a matter of fact, I thought
he was the guy that basically when new guys came in,
rookies and whatever, you know, kind of taught these guys'
finances and the way of life. I remember one day,
way back in the day, I went down when the
Bengals used to practice at this little dump cold Spinny Field.

(13:14):
You know, one guy went to his car and he
had like tons of cash in his glove gloabox, and
I asked, what is that. I don't have a check book.
I mean, I just is where I live. I mean
they don't know. You know, they're coming out of college, made,
coming out of college early. There's no one to teach him.
That's what they need to be taught, right.

Speaker 5 (13:31):
Yeah, I mean like some of that is that, But
I don't want to make it where every player is
ill prepared to deal with the money and all the
other stuff that is on their rise when they signed
their deals. But yeah, some like financial literacy is something
that everyone needs to learn and be particularly as you
made the transition from college to being a professional. It's

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one of the things that you have to learn. The
thing about it is the business and those around the
business us like you don't really know where to turn.
Like I mean, we just saw Rashad Jones just have
a situation where a financial advisor and someone took almost
over two million dollars from him and he's suing to

(14:15):
get that money back. And so there's a lot of
shady stuff that exist around athletes. This gambling investigation that
Malik Beasley is involved in. It's part of a bigger
thing that always surrounds the sport when it comes to
the players, a lot of financial things and issues, and
it's just it's.

Speaker 4 (14:34):
Unfortunate for everyone involved.

Speaker 5 (14:36):
But like it's one of those things that's kind of
like the dirty little secret that is out.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
There's no doubt about that.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
We talked about the NBA that's move over to Major
League Baseball, though they're not exempt from this either. A
Cleveland Guardian's right handed pitcher, Louis Ortiz, he's under investigation
by MLB after betting integrity from the if. They flagged
down a couple of pictures that he received unusual gambling activity.
This came out like on Thursday. The operators said there

(15:01):
are te's placed some I guess hit batter and an
inside pitch in two games back on the fifteenth of
June against the Seattle Mariners. I guess there's a lot
of money wagered on those two pitchers, and basically they
investigated and now he's under paid lead.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
I guess at the.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Conclusion that the end of the inclusion of the All
Star Break, it's amazing, but you.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
Know, I don't. I can't.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
I'm not gonna say. I don't blame them. I think
they should know better. But it's all around you. You
can't get away from it. I mean, it's on your phone.
You know, you watch TV. Almost every other commercial on
TV is about gambling. They got the billboards and the
arenas and the stadiums out there, so that's kind of
crazy as well. But the point is that I don't

(15:48):
think we do anything to help them. When I say we,
I listened to sports talk radio and like they're giving way,
you know, lines on various games.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
Is that important? Should they? I don't know. I mean
I'm not the answer, man. I don't know. We don't
do that.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
I don't wage just so it doesn't do any good
for me, so I'm interested in it. But I know
this shows that basically, especially on Sundays during football, while
this team is seven point favorite over this, that doesn't bother.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
I don't care.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
I don't think you're into that either, but I hear
it all the time. You can't get away from it.

Speaker 4 (16:21):
Doesn't help, No, I mean, you can't get away from it.

Speaker 5 (16:25):
I told you, like part of it is the environment,
not only the environment, like around the League, but just
the daily environment it has changed because it has become mainstream.
Before gambling was kind of like a thing that was
very taboo, right like you didn't really even know how
to go about placing a bit because it was always
the boogeyman of the bookies and those guys that are

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gonna come and get you if you don't pay up
your money and do those things. So it's a very
clandestine operation. Well, as it became mainstream and as it
gained popularity first on the internet, then as you start
to see the commercials on TV, it has become a
huge part of the daily existence. And then when you
had I mean, look, I remember even at NFL Network

(17:10):
when we used to talk, we couldn't talk about the lines,
right like such and such as a seven point favorite
or any of those things, because those things were direct
links and had a direct impact on gambling. And there
was always trying to be a separational state between separation
churches day, between the league and gambling entities. So it

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went as far as that, and then in a two
to three year period we not only have where we're
talking about the lines and the best bet and prop
bets in those things, we're having shows sponsored by these
gambling entities. So yeah, it is twisted, and for a player,
I can see how it can be a little bit confusing, where, oh,

(17:53):
I'm not supposed to participate in this, but everything around
us is sponsored by these to these doesn't really make sense.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
I agree with you know what, I understand the sponsorship.
But then again, when the hosts are giving the line
and the points spread, but maybe that's part of the sponsorship.
Maybe the sponsors come out and say, look, you know,
we'll sponsor the show, but we want the host to
give the line, and that's basically what it's all about.
I guess I don't know, but you're right. I see
that all the time, and you know I watch it.
I just just goes right over my head. I'm not

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there with a pad and pencil c coping down with
the liners because I don't really care.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
It doesn't bother me.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
But I'm sure there are people they're waiting anxiously to
find out what the last line is so that could
get on their phone and make that wager. And I'm
not saying it's a bad thing, because you know, look,
super Bowl, everybody has a Super Bowl party. If it
takes the squares and things like that. I think when
you could bet in a situation where you put down
five dollars, ten dollars, ever, it may be for fun,

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but some of these guys are putting down big time money.
And obviously I think in the game itself, when you're
a performer, you can't do that because it it hurts
the credibility of the game itself. As I said early on,
you drop a pass in the end zone, people are
going to say, hey, maybe he did it intentionally because
he had it bet on the game. That's the problem.
You're hurting the game itself, not yourself, but you're hurting

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the game.

Speaker 4 (19:15):
Yeah. I mean, look, you are hurting the game.

Speaker 5 (19:18):
Obviously it impacts the game because it puts the integrity
in question because then people begin to wonder when you
make mistakes, are they legitimate mistakes or their mistakes for
your benefit? And that is what the league is trying
to avoid having having those things kind of cloud the game,
question the game or whatever. And that's why you want

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them to or that's why they will come down heavily
on the people. Will he be busier anybody else involved
in these things if they find improprieties is because they
want to make sure that they can uphold the integrity
of the game, because that then impacts the way fans
view the game. We already have this thing around sports
where people talk about the script and oh, these things

(20:03):
have been scripted as if it's a sports reality show
like wrestler wrestling. Yeah, like, and that's not the case.

Speaker 4 (20:12):
It's just.

Speaker 5 (20:14):
Look, man, it's just one of those things that you're
trying to get out of. And so that's why they're
having these these investigations try and figure out can they
remove it or was it something that is really much
ado about nothing.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Well, you talk about the NFL network and the sponsorship
and the host of mentioning lines and things like that.
Just go to an arena or go to a baseball
stadium and they got the machines right there.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
You can make the wager right there. That's basically what
it's all about.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
And I think that's why, to some extent, some of
these fans go ballistic, you know, when a player drops
the ball or a team loses or something, laughing whatever,
because they got.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
Money on that.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
And there's more of an I guess of a rooting
interest in that game because you got money on it.
That's basically what it's all about. Guy drops the fly
ball in a baseball game. You got the guy, you
do guy's pitching and no hit, whatever it may be,
and you lose the money, You're going to attack the guy.
And that's basically what they do. It's it's crazy. I
don't know how it's gonna be fixed. I don't know

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if it can be fixed. But I tell you what,
it's out there, and if you don't think it's out there,
there's something wrong with you. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm Indy
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moving along, you gotta ask Bucky say it about ten
twelve minutes from now.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
But let's move the clock backward.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
This happened Wednesday night and from a fifty five thousand,
five hundred and thirty six people at Dodger Stadium.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
Let's take a listen.

Speaker 4 (23:34):
I thought we would.

Speaker 8 (23:36):
That's a one two pitch strike records be out a
little slider strike out number three thousand for Playton Crusha
history at Dodger Stadium.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
All right, there we go.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
That was dargest stadium on Wednesday Night, two outs in
the sixth inning. On this one hundredth pitch, Clayton Kershoer
struck out White Sox basement of Vinnie Kpra and he
became the twentieth player to reach three thousand strikeouts. And
he's just the fourth lefty to do it. However, I
gotta believe looking at statistics and how pitches pitch and
how little they pitch, and their careers are not as

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long as they once wore, he'll probably be the last one.
Bucky Brooks, I think he'll be the last one to
get three thousand strikeouts.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
What do you think?

Speaker 4 (24:22):
Yeah, I'm with you on that.

Speaker 5 (24:23):
I don't think we're going to see mini pitchers get
anywhere close to those numbers where they be complete games,
total wins, strikeouts, because the game isn't set up like
that anymore. It's set up where everyone's a specialist. You
pitch two or three innings and you get out, and
there's more of a collective effort to win games as
a pitcher as opposed to collective effort to win games

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as a team, as opposed to a giving the ball
to your ace and letting your age give you eight
to nine innx.

Speaker 4 (24:53):
That's just not the case anymore.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
And I think it stinks because baseball is a sacred
game made on record. I'm really arguments for eons when
who was better? Was it Mickey mantlea Willie Mays or
Duke Snyder or Ted Williams? Will he the greatest hitter
was a Pete Rose. That's what baseball was made on.
Was Kershaw better than Colfax? Things like that. That's not
happening right now, Baseball. Stop with the time clock. The

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beauty of baseball was the fact that it was the
only game out there that was timeless. That's what made
baseball beautiful. And everybody would say, oh, we need a
time cl You're in a rush, You're in a hurry.
Don't go to a baseball game. I missed the double
headers on Sunday. All right, Maybe I'm an old fogie.
I don't care. But the point is this. Stop with that.
Stop with the rushing. Everybody in this day and age
wants their glasses in an hour.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
They want fast food. Calm down.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Baseball is a beautiful game to be played under the sun.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
Timeless, all right.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Stop with the man on second base starting the tenth
inning and extra innings. These are sacred records never to
be seen again. Managers, let the pitchers pitch past the
fifth inning, Bucket Brooks, that's what I want to see.
These records will never ever be challenged the game, and
that's a shame.

Speaker 4 (26:02):
That is a change.

Speaker 5 (26:03):
But I think you're directing your anger at the wrong
person because you mentioned the manager. The managers are no
longer running game day operations.

Speaker 4 (26:11):
It's the general manager and the analytics team.

Speaker 5 (26:14):
So before you point to Dave Roberts and company, you
got to go hire you. You got to go to
the people that we never talk about, the guys that
are sitting in the offices that are making these decisions
hours ahead of time. Because the manager no longer has
the power like he used to when Timy Lasorter, Billy Martin,
Earl Weaver, when those guys were managing, they were everything

(26:38):
when it came to the strategists, substitutions, all of those things. Yeah,
it's not the case anymore. And so this is an
analytics driven deal where we have more people coming in
and out of lineups, more pitchers swapping in and out.

Speaker 4 (26:53):
That's not what managers were like.

Speaker 5 (26:54):
Managers like consistency, they're like connectivity, and if they could
have a workhorse, they would ride the workhorse because you
know what you're getting. I would say the analytics community
and general managers have messed a game up where you
don't have pitches that can go to distance.

Speaker 4 (27:09):
You know.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
I never thought of it that way, that the managers
don't have much power as they used to. I used
to think maybe the fact of the matter is that
these records will not be broken is because these pitchers
make so much money. They treat them with kid gloves
and they don't want to burn them out. Maybe that
was one of the reasons. But I think back in
the day, and I'm not going back too far now,
but back in the day, these pitchers were throwing two

(27:30):
hundred and fifty three hundred innings. Why because today they
pitch less and they get hurt more. Think about that,
and people are saying, why is that? This might be
the answer. Tell me if I'm okay on this. Today
they throw they want to be FM pitches FM radio.
What I mean by that, they want to throw one
on one three to one on one on one point three,

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that's what they want to do. They want to throw
one hundred miles an hour. They want to throw hard
and fast. They don't pitch, they throw hard. You know,
there's the difference between pitching and throwing, I think, and
today that don't pitch, they throw.

Speaker 5 (28:02):
I mean, look, that's a big part of it. They
don't pitch. It's a lost art. But I will also
say this, there's something to be said for and I
know you kind of sound like the old man on
the porch where we talked about old school and yesteryear
and those things, but you certainly didn't see as many
Tommy John injuries as you've seen now. You didn't see

(28:23):
all of the wear and tear issues that you're see
in and play pitchers and players now than before. And
one of the reasons is what you talk about the
radio that owl people are aiming to bust up the clock, right,
they're aiming to bust up the radis everyone wants to
throw well over one hundred and Some of what has

(28:44):
been lost is the artistry that came with pitching where
there's changing speeds, changing locations, not always bringing the heater,
but also having the cutter and the compliments that go
along with your number one pitch.

Speaker 4 (28:58):
That has been a problem. Some of the problem has been.

Speaker 5 (29:02):
Overused prior to getting to the majors because in little
league and travel ball and like everyone, they're wearing out
the little arms. And so now you have a player
who you get at the major league level who already
has a fatigued DAR which makes them susceptible to the
injuries that we see are occurring. But it's weird because

(29:23):
you talked about making more playing less but having more injuries.

Speaker 4 (29:26):
It doesn't make sense.

Speaker 5 (29:27):
But it's the cumulative effect of everything that is transpiring
from youth leagues all the way up, and then it's
the dramatic change at the higher level to not fully
prepare the players for the grind that is the regular season.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
You always have the answers, you really do, and I
commend you for that because I just thought of something
and it's amazing, really and I don't think people even
know what I'm talking about. But back in the day,
and I think you might remember this, they had like
artists who were pitchers, and one of them, many of them, really.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
Through a pitch that was called a knuckleball.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
I don't know anyuket ball is right now major League Baseball,
and as a matter of fact, when the knuckleball pitcher
would come in, the catcher would get an enlarge glove.
Do you remember that they would change gloves. They're gonna
beig new glove to catch the knuckleball.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
I don't even think they have knuckleball pitchers anymore. It's
fastball and curve. That's basically what it is. But basically
fastball as hard as you can throw, and the matters,
well what they do they swiming as hard as they can.
So basically it's a walker strikeout of our home run.
That's the game of baseball today.

Speaker 5 (30:26):
That is the game, and it's it's unfortunate, like we've
lost some of the creativity that we that we used
to have when it when it comes to it.

Speaker 4 (30:35):
But yeah, like that's that's some of it.

Speaker 5 (30:37):
Like think about how good Greg Maddox was, and Greg
Maddox couldn't really push it anywhere close to one hundred. Well,
it was all about location, changing speeds, it was about
working the corners, uh quickly, getting your head of the
hitter on the pitch count. So now you dictate the
terms that of the batter being in favorable, favorable positions,
all of those things matter, and all of those things

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impacted the way the game is being played.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
It's unbelieving that I do Clayton Kersher right now the
fourth left handed to reach three thousand strikeouts?

Speaker 3 (31:07):
Who does?

Speaker 2 (31:08):
He joined Randy Johnson, Steve Carlton, and CC Sabathia, and
one of just three active pitchers along with Justin Verlander, who,
by the way, is oh and six right now this year.
Along with Justin Verlander, Max sure two of the off
of them, and they lump them all together were the
greatest of this generation. Sure's of Verlander. I guess Kersher
the greatest pitches of this generation. Okay, it's amazing, and

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one of just five to get three thousand with one team,
along with the great Walter Johnson, Bob Gibson, Carlton, and
John Smoltz. Really, again, I don't see anyone really approaching
that number. Who's pitching today? A for injury factor, B.
They're not going to pitch that long, No.

Speaker 4 (31:53):
They're not.

Speaker 5 (31:54):
But I'm be honest with you, I'm still pondering the
name that I did not hear you say, CC Sabbathia.
I did not know Sabbathia was that prolific when it
came to strikeouse and the other name is John Smolts.
I knew John Smolts was part of those great Braves
teams for whatever, but when you talk about the most

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with one team, Smolsey doesn't get enough credit for how
good he was. Like, it's amazing how guys can have
those distinguished careers and still flying to the radar.

Speaker 4 (32:25):
You know.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
The greatest thing of baseball to me is the fact
that you could sit at the edge of your seat
in the last inning when a guy maybe is.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
Approaching a no hitter.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
And the Cincinnati Reds had a guy about a week
ago against I think it was the Red Sox, and
he was into the ninth inning and he finally gave
up a hit. The fact that he made it to
the ninth inning to me was amazing, But he was
going for the no hitter. I mean, there was a
guy this year and I don't recall the name. I
forgot who it was, but he was in the seventh
inning pitching a no hitter. I think he was on
the Yankees, and Aaron Boone took him out. To me,

(32:55):
if I'm a fan, I pack up and go home. Really,
I mean, that's part of the game baseball. I want
to be there when someone pitches a no hitter. I
want to see that, you know, you know the greatest
thing about baseball is that anything can happen at.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
Any time, and there are so many variables in the game.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
And basketball, what do you have you got a guy's
gonna dunk, You're gotta shoot a three point there, or
you know, maybe he'll score forty to fifty a game.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
That's basically it.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
But in baseball, if a guy hits an inside the
park home run, that's an amazing feat, all right. If
a guy hits a triple, it's probably the hardest thing
to hit in baseball, is a triple all right. I
want to see that. I want to see a no hitter.
I want to see a double play, maybe a triple play.
There are so many variables going through a game of baseball,
you see, and they've been taken away from us. Right now,
guy stealing home I want to see that. I've never
seen that live. That would be unbelievable.

Speaker 5 (33:42):
I mean, I mean, those are some things that we
definitely haven't seen in a while.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
It would be great to see some of those things
come back.

Speaker 5 (33:48):
But we have seen the game kind of morephack in
the small ball, we've seen more stolen bases, whatever, so
I'm sure a steal of home is on the horizon.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Well, and they did that because they made the bases bigger, right,
I mean, come on, And now I'm seeing these guys
with these gloves, you know, when they're running gloves Now,
I mean, come on, it's just slotting the sliding sliding gloves.
I mean, really, do you have to I mean, I
just I don't know. I used to see when Bobby
Benie used to come up to bat, it looked like

(34:17):
he was going to war, but only armor he was
wearing at the play. I mean, under his arm on
there's elbow. I mean, come on, really, it just shouldn't
be that way, but it is. And I still love baseball,
but man, it's just a lot different right now. And
I don't know if it's better.

Speaker 4 (34:31):
That's the thing. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
If do you think it's better, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (34:35):
I mean I think it's different. I think it's better
than it's been in the past. I think there's more excitement.
I think we've seen more stats kind of come back
into the fold in terms of stolen bases in those
things because of some of the tweaks that baseball has made. Yeah,
it's a better product, but it's a long product. I mean,
to be invested in baseball. I mean that's a long commitment,
going from April to October, the amount of games, it's

(34:56):
just a long commitment. And so I think the game
is in a good play. There are a lot of
people that are into it. Look, I'm a Dodgers fan.
I check out the Dodgers every time they're on, which
is nightly.

Speaker 4 (35:07):
So look, I dig it.

Speaker 5 (35:11):
I think we're all in no stalgic about how it
used to be when it comes to baseball and the
All Star Game and those things just a different time.
We have so many other things that are at our
disposal that sometimes we can get distracted and not pay
attention to the things that really used to matter back
in the day.

Speaker 4 (35:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
I don't need to hear about launch angles. Those things
make me crazy.

Speaker 4 (35:29):
Al Right.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
He's Bucky Brooks and Andy Fermawel, Fox Sports Sunday on
Fox Sports. Ready the man with all your answers. It's
Bucky Brooks. It's Bucky. It's next. Ask Bucky, coming right up.
This is Fox Sports Sunday, on Fox Sports Rady about
eleven minutes before the top of the hour, and he's
Bucky Brooks and Andy Furman and we're live on the
Fox Sports radio studios. Let's do a little bit of
ass Bucky, Patty.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
Are you ready? Oh, I'm ready. Let's do it, Baby,
Let's do it.

Speaker 9 (35:53):
So I got one first, and it's a fun one
for you, Buck. So in baseball right now, you know,
we have all these nicknames, and you know, like what
was well Derek Jeter was was like the Captain Wright
or I may be butchering that one. That was beyond
my time before I started watching. But so we have
a new nickname. So Cal Rawley for the Mariners, right

(36:14):
he's having a phenomenal year. He has a new nickname.
He's called Big Dumper. It's so funny. My question to you, Buck,
is that inspired me? If you were to have a
nickname in baseball, if you were saying to be, you know,
a hitting baseball player, what would your nickname want to be?

Speaker 3 (36:30):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (36:31):
Well, not not big dumper. I don't I don't want that, right,
I liked it big in front.

Speaker 4 (36:38):
That's it.

Speaker 5 (36:39):
Maybe big bopper or something like that, but not not
big Dumper. You know, I couldn't do that. I couldn't
do that. That's that's not good. That's not a good name,
Big Dumper.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
Okay, there we move on, all right.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
I gotta ask Bucky Brooks, now, tell us the best
prepared coach and teacher that you ever played for on
any level.

Speaker 5 (36:57):
Mighty Schottenhammer. Mighty Schttenhammer should be in the Hall of Fame.
Sean hum was one of the best coaches that I
ever had. And when I talked about Marty, it's important
for me to talk about he was a guy who
was an English major. He had taught high school and
he coached the pro team like a high school team.
His preparation was outstanding. He was really keen on the details.

(37:19):
He by far was one of the best coaches that
I had. And that's saying a lot with Tom Coughlin,
Marv Levy, Mike Holmger and John Gruden who impacted me
as pro coaches.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
You know, I'm surprised you. I thought you were going
to say Marv Levy. I really did. But was Marv
Lee Wasn't he an English teacher as well or a
history teacher?

Speaker 4 (37:35):
I thought he was? He was. He was well read
in those things.

Speaker 5 (37:38):
But for me, like Marv was great with those Buffalo
Bills teams, but they were older.

Speaker 4 (37:43):
I was a young guy.

Speaker 5 (37:44):
I was a rookie plan on those Buffalo Bills teams
that had gone to four Street Super Bowls. So it
was a different impact that he had. Like he was
great in his own right, obviously he's a Hall of Famer.
Marty was different in terms of like boots on the ground,
very into it, very doubted and detailed when it came
to it.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
Sounds great, okay.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
And as we approach training camp for NFL teams, what
kind of an offseason program do players actually work on
until they get the camp.

Speaker 5 (38:09):
Now, everybody's on their own, and it's a little scary
when you're on your own like this, because look, man,
you're working out on your field, you're working out wherever
you can find, and you're doing things on your own,
and you still have to ramp it up because it
has to match the intensity that it would that you
would be giving if you were in a facility. Because
when you show up in training camp, they're ready to go,

(38:34):
and so it's a lot on you. So right now,
everyone's working out hard, they're doing the conditioning and running
the individual workout, the agilities, the stuffs that.

Speaker 4 (38:41):
You can see on Instagram.

Speaker 5 (38:43):
You just want to be careful because you're away from
the facility, so it may not be the best facilities
and resources that you have at your disposal.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
All right, Okay. Her salary is seventy eight thousand dollars
for the season. How much is Caitlin Clark actually worth?

Speaker 5 (39:00):
I think she's probably making a couple million, maybe more
annually from all the different sponsorships and things that she has.
She is immensely popular in the business world, and she's
done a great job of parlaying her success on the
floor to success in the boardroom. I would expect her
to a few million at a minimum.

Speaker 4 (39:19):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Form of Cincinnati, Rich Catcher took a barhard surprisingly retired
after tot seasons just the other day. So when is
the time to say when? How do you know when
to retire? That's an athlete, for sure.

Speaker 5 (39:34):
I think there's an individual decision. I think some people
understand when it's time. The time is when you know
that the things that you know are part of the
preparation process that have to.

Speaker 4 (39:46):
Be done, where you really don't feel like doing them.

Speaker 5 (39:49):
And that's when you know that it's over. When you
don't have the love to get ready for the preparation process,
that's when the game is over. And that happens at
different stages for people. But you know, and look, your
mind would you one thing, but your body.

Speaker 4 (40:05):
Will let you know that. Hey man, it's over. It's
a wrap.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
I'm surprised you said that, because you're telling me more.
It's a mental thing than lack of ability. It's not
the skill that's eroding. It's just that you don't want
to do it anymore.

Speaker 4 (40:16):
It's a desire to get ready.

Speaker 5 (40:18):
It's a desire to do all the things that you
need to do to get ready mentally and physically to
participate at a high level.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
There we go.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
Now sometimes you go from the penthouse to the outhouse.
That and so much more right here on Fox Sports Sunday,
coming up next, from worst to first or first to worst,
that's right around the corner. Good morning, everybody. This is
Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. He's Bucky Brooks

(40:47):
and Andy Ferman and we are broadcasting live from the
Fox Sports Radio studios.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
And a way we go.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Bucky, how you doing are you recuperating for the fourth
of July. I don't think it's that rough of a holiday.
I really don't.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
You don't think it's a rough of be a rough holloway.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
They say it's the biggest drinking day of the year,
and I thought maybe New Year's Eve might have been.
But they say the July fourth holiday is the biggest
drinking day of the year.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
Didn't know that.

Speaker 5 (41:10):
Yeah, I believe that though. I believe there are a lot
of people consuming beverages, a lot of people.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
When they say drink, I just could say it's alcohol
and not just soda pop.

Speaker 4 (41:18):
Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, adult pop.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
That's what we're right, adult pop. You took the day
up because I was looking for NFL dot com. You eclum,
You did not right this week?

Speaker 4 (41:28):
No to the week off?

Speaker 5 (41:30):
Like this is it, though, Andy, Because like you have
to understand, from a pro football perspective, fourth of July
it's kind of like the final mile marker. It's the
last vacation. It's the last holiday that you can have
ahead of the season because once the season ramps up,
it's from now until the middle of February before you
have time off. Because this is it training camp is

(41:55):
two weeks away. I mean it's going to happen fast,
and before you know it, we can be right back in.
And so yeah, so took this week off and then
starting tomorrow with everything like everything begins to ram back up.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
There you go, and I look forward to it, and
so's everybody else int NFL dot com. You know, I
heard the Top of the Hour Sports with Steve the
Seger and all of a sudden, I'm saying, wait a minute,
there was seventy six thousand people in New Jersey for
a soccer game, sixty thousand plus in Atlanta for the
by Our Munich game and soccer you know. To me,
I mean, I look, as I said, I was a

(42:28):
publicist for the Fort Lauderdale Striper's Way back in the
North American Soccer League, and we had George Best and
Gert Mula who played for Munich. And when we went
to New York to play the Cosmos and they had
Pele may he rest in peace. They did have seventy
six thousand people, but if you walked around the stadium,
no one spoke English. I mean seriously, I mean it
was people from all ethnic backgrounds watching, you know, the

(42:48):
soccer games that Canalia was playing for the Cosmos. A
lot of people speaking Italian and the German people speaking
in the stand. So I'm not so certain many Americans
are going to the I mean not native America Pekins,
but people naturalized Americans maybe whatever, but people from foreign lands,
born in different countries that came here watching soccer. I

(43:09):
just I'm shocked. I'm shocked at seventy six and sixty
thousand people attended those games. When you see those numbers,
does it make you crazy a little bit too?

Speaker 5 (43:19):
No, not at all, because if you go outside of
the US, soccer is the most Soccer is the world's
most popular sport.

Speaker 4 (43:26):
It is.

Speaker 5 (43:26):
Every country is really big in the soccer. It just
hasn't hit for whatever reason in the US. So I'm
not surprised. Having spent significant time overseas in London and
in Europe, like when those soccer matches are everything, I'm
not surprised that it's growing in popularity. Even though our
level of soccer at the professional ranks is step below

(43:50):
what we see on those premier leagues, those European top leagues,
they're still good players. There's still players that are participating
that you want to see I get that.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
Well, it's funny you mentioned the fact that you overseas,
you with you there, and you don't know why it's
really caught on here. It's because the players that are
here a you know, the better days were played in
Europe when they come here at the end of their
contractual agreement to come in the MLS. And number two,
the fact that they're not here, they're not fro You
can't follow them. I mean, why is college football so

(44:22):
popular because we followed the kids in college and we
follow them right to the NFL.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
You know, why is baseball hurting?

Speaker 2 (44:28):
There is no personality really in baseball to follow you know,
Oheotani maybe, but he doesn't speak English.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
He goes around with an interpreter. I mean that doesn't help.
It really doesn't.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
Okay, Aaron Judge, he could be the personality, but he
doesn't have the personality to be the personality. Really, he's
kind of a shy kind of guy. So, and they
don't have homegrown guys. I mean a lot of these
guys that don't speak English. People here don't relate to them.
You can't follow them. You never follow them from college.
And in baseball they were in the minor leagues for
three four five years before they get here.

Speaker 4 (45:00):
Poop.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
Well, it's perfect.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
It's a perfect situation college NFL being you follow them, Okay,
As far as NBA, it's tough. I never know who
Giannis was and before he came, when he played in Greece,
before he came to the Bucks, I have no idea
who he was. I love watching him play now, but
I have no idea. Really, I wasn't excited about him
because I never heard of him. That's the problem, I think,
and I think it hurts the popularity of the individual league.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
Don't you agree.

Speaker 4 (45:26):
I agree.

Speaker 5 (45:26):
In terms of the popularity being hurt by, I would
say the international influence and flavor. However, I would say
some of these wounds are self inflicted because soccer has
not done a great job of being much like the
world sport.

Speaker 4 (45:44):
Is different. Soccer at the lower levels is the rich
get richer.

Speaker 5 (45:49):
Meaning club soccer is for a socio economic class that
sometimes excludes the best athletes from participating. The exorbitant fees
that it costs to participate in soccer at the lower
levels leaves out a lot of the kids that would participate.

Speaker 4 (46:07):
There would be some of your best players.

Speaker 5 (46:08):
For instance, Odell Beckham Junior was a high level junior
level soccer player, but he goes and plays football.

Speaker 4 (46:16):
There are others that would be in.

Speaker 5 (46:18):
The same vein that could participate and really add some
flair and flavor to the sport, but accessibility resources prevents
them from participating in the sport. And so until the
US looks at a different model and the way that
it attracts athletes, the way that it goes about the

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selection process and opening up the doors for others to participate,
it is always going to lag behind the world in
terms of participation and skill level because you don't have
your best athletes or all of your best athletes participating
in the sport, which is why they can't compete at
the higher level and is also why you don't have

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the interest that you would have if you have more
homegrown stars participating.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
You know, I had no idea that Odell Beckham Junior
was a soccer star. Okay, but here's the deal. If
I'm a soccer star and a football STARF five star
athlete in football, I'll go in the football direction. I
understand maybe the possibility of injury is a little greater
in football, but the notoriety is a lot better, at
least in all country. Playing in the National Football League.
I don't think there's any question. I don't think you

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have the football pall the real question, right.

Speaker 5 (47:26):
But the money, the money is more significant in soccer
if you play overseas all the money, right, Yeah, the
money is the money is significant. So if we talk
about like wealth and game changing money, the money overseas
is significant.

Speaker 4 (47:41):
The global impact that you have.

Speaker 5 (47:45):
Is different because like we can talk about Ronaldo, we
can talk about Messi, we can talk about these people
that we say one word, they're global superstars and it's
great to be a star in the NFL, but you're
not a global star. Like that's different. There are different
levels when it comes to superstardom. David Beckham is a

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global superstar. Like those things really matter. And so if
we get beyond our arrogance in terms of our country,
looking at like what we do in our country as
the end all be all, there's a bigger thing out where,
and there's a gateway to international stardom, wealth, all of
those things. If you are able to participate in some

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of those sports that do have a global worldwide impact.

Speaker 3 (48:30):
Do you make a great point. But here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
All those global stars started in their country, not here.
I think it's very difficult to go from the US
of A to become a global star over there. In Europe,
it will be the same situation that we have when
we get an NBA player from Greece coming over the year.
It's an unknown and I think it's difficult. Beckham was
a global was a star in England and he came
here with a big ret from England and he came here. Luckily,

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he came on a Miami team in the league, and
you know, he became that global star coming here. You know,
has he made the impact here as he did in England?
I don't think so. Again, these guys come here at
the tail end of their career and the twilight of
their career. They've had their better days in Europe and
they come here with that rep, make the big money,
try to sell tickets here. But they had their big

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days I think in Europe before coming here.

Speaker 5 (49:18):
I mean that is true. But also the difference is
skill level. The reason why we haven't had a homegrown
star go overseas and dominate is because the skill level
we're not developing the same kind of players that internationally
are being developed, which is why we can't go and
make that impact.

Speaker 4 (49:38):
But it's funny that.

Speaker 5 (49:39):
You brought basketball because I think basketball would be the
greatest example. Lukatdancich comes over and immediately makes an impact
as a star, global icon, comes over to a sport
that is our sport because basketball is our sport. He
comes over, makes an immediate impact. Victor wimbin Yama same thing.
It took Jannis a little longer the cook, but he

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has made an impact. In fact, you can say that
the best players in the NBA are the international players.

Speaker 4 (50:08):
That's problematic.

Speaker 5 (50:09):
Why is that because their skill level is making it
where they're sought after, they're desired in those things. So
from a US standpoint when it comes to soccer, if
we get the skill level up to par when it
comes to US born players competing at the world level,
then they will have an opportunity to go in those

(50:30):
respective leagues and dominate. So it's not about like who's going,
is who's going with the skills overseas to be able
to have a potential impact, which is also why the
US soccer team men's in particularly they can't win at
that level. We don't see the men compete at the
highest level when it comes to the World Cup.

Speaker 4 (50:50):
Why skill level?

Speaker 2 (50:52):
Right, No, you're right, exactly right. And as far as
the basketball's concerning, you make a great point. But it's
nothing new because didn't Tony Park who play for the
Sports way back in the day, was a star in
France before he came here. Yeah, it's nothing new, really,
it has not been a new thing. But you know,
speaking of crowds, is goin to started with this with
the soccer crowds of seventy six thousand plus. Here's another situation.

(51:14):
I saw this the other day spinning the dial. And
they came to Cincinnati a couple of weeks ago, to Savannah,
bananaz These guys are still They sold out a Clemson
a couple of weeks ago the football stadium. Have you
seen them play? I mean, like the Hallam Globe charters
at baseball. Tell me what the attraction is there, because
I think if you are, they going to be like
a flash in the pan because once you see them,

(51:34):
you've seen them one time. I don't think you're going
to go back to see him again. He've seen the show.
I mean, but this sold out and everywhere they go,
like one hundred and fifty sellouts and there's a waiting
list for tickets. To get a ticket, you got to
go online and be on a waiting list. What's the
attraction there? If you've seen them.

Speaker 4 (51:51):
It's the same thing as Harlem Globetrotters.

Speaker 5 (51:53):
They've done a great job of tapping into the art
of entertainment using sport as the main vehicle. The Savannah
Bananas have Look, they've done it. Look they've expanded, and
really it's happened within the last five years, and I
would really say the last two to three years they've
gone and expanded their brand. They went from being the
minor league team that you would have to go to

(52:13):
Savannah to watch have a good time, to now they're
traveling all over selling out eighty to one hundred thousand
seat stadiums.

Speaker 4 (52:20):
And it's because what you would like to.

Speaker 5 (52:23):
Do is you have a small family man, you want
to go look at a sporting event and you want
everyone to be entertained. You want the adults and the
kids to get something out of it. The Bananas have
done a great job of tapping into the imagination of
all their fans, young and old, and much like the
Harlem Globetrotters, Globe Trotters had an extended run where everybody

(52:46):
went to see them, even though you knew what was happening.
They're never losing to the Washington Generals and those things.
It's the entertainment value. The Savannah Bananas have been able
to captivate the minds of their audiences, which is why
you come back, you you go away, you walk away
leaving being entertained, saying, man, that was a fun two
to three hours.

Speaker 4 (53:06):
I would do that all over again.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
And the funny thing is that I think the Globe
Trotter is right now. I think the air has been
out of the balloon. I don't think they are today
is what they were maybe five ten years ago. I mean,
people don't even talk about them. They really don't. It's
a different it's a different show. I mean, I don't
understand what happened to them. They lost the magic, and
I don't know how they lost the magic.

Speaker 4 (53:28):
Well, I mean, look, it's hard to extend one.

Speaker 5 (53:32):
The Harlem Globe try to show you how hard it
is to stay on top.

Speaker 4 (53:35):
They were on top.

Speaker 5 (53:36):
The brand is an iconic brand and the stars were significant.

Speaker 4 (53:42):
You think about Meadow Arc Lemon, they might slick. You
think about all.

Speaker 5 (53:45):
The guys that were I would say the core members
of that. They had a unique ability to entertain, score,
the flare, showmanship, all of that matters. And look, they
try to pass it on, but you almost have to
have prominent players who were really name brands in college

(54:07):
make their way to the globetrotters and find a way
to give it legitimacy.

Speaker 4 (54:13):
And right now, like it's just a phase.

Speaker 5 (54:15):
It kind of phased out, but there's always a way
to recapture it, but it would take some notable names
to help them bring it back.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
Well, I think it's all about money. I mean, if
the kids in college, you know, he's going to go
try to go to the NBA. I don't think any
college basketball players dream is to play.

Speaker 5 (54:29):
They don't expire to be all them glow trotters. Yeah,
I mean there's certainly a lot to that. You know, Look,
it'd be funny and there's so many different options when
it comes to basketball, and watch you got the Big
Three that is increasing in prominence. We're seeing older players
kind of phase out and do those things. Everyone goes
international because the money over in Europe is significant. China,

(54:51):
I mean, you can make a ton of money. It's
a unique market to tap into. And it's one that
they're finally increasingly difficult to carve out their space. But
there's always a way to rebuild the brand.

Speaker 4 (55:07):
They have to figure out what works for them.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
You know, you talk about carve out your space. Who
has carved out their space better? And we talked about
this many times about seasons overlapping and you mentioned to
me and we talk about we're really going to start
following baseball now because the NBA players are over carving
out the space. No one has done it better than
the WNBA. There's nothing going on right now ex to
the WNBA. Think about that. I mean they have really

(55:31):
call I don't know if they did it intentionally, it
just helped to work out that way, but they have.
Really they own it between now and maybe the first
NFL exhibition game, it's all them, it really is. I mean,
they own it now and that's great for them, and
that's what people talk about it. If you're a gambler,
I mean, that's what you do right now. You go online.

(55:51):
The better on the WNBA game. That's what they're doing,
and that's the only sporting event really that's on TV now.

Speaker 5 (55:58):
It is, but it's even more that can be done,
you know, when it comes to the WNBA putting their
games in prime time, even building up the sport even more.
I love the fact that there's WNBA to expansion, going
back to what I would say are some hub cities, right,
so you talk about Cleveland, the Cleveland Rockers. I remember
when they first started the Detroit Shock, which won a

(56:20):
couple of championships like those our base cities. So they
can continue to expand the brand and build on that.
And despite what I would call the w NBA in
fighting where it appears that their players aren't necessarily supporting
their other players and supporting the brand, it's still a
good product. And I know everyone that doesn't like the

(56:40):
WNBA would dump on it like a hasn't turned the private,
It hasn't done that. Obviously something is coming because they're
pourting more money into it. There's an infrastructure there for
this to be really a great watch, a sport that
can really take over the summer. It's just a matter
of putting the pieces in place. They got some of
the players there. Kaitlyn Clark has certainly helped it. I

(57:01):
won't give her all the credit, but like the brand
is expanding, they just have to figure out a way
to maximize the exposure and the eyeballs that are suddenly
coming to the sport.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
It's no doubt about that, you know, speaking about that
I mentioned coming into the segment there, from first to worst,
you're playing on a title team, a championship team it's played.
You play for the Philadelphia Eagles and one season and
the next season you missed the playoffs. How devastating is that?
And it happens. And the question is why does it happen?
Is because they've been there, done that. There's no challenge anymore.

(57:32):
You know, how does that happen? Because I got a
couple of teams here that I think I'll be good
discussed as we have to roll it over because we're
doing the next segment as well, teams that I think
that have hit this stride. But maybe they're going to
fall down a peg or two. Really, and maybe I'm wrong,
but I just think that you get a team like
the Eagles. I'm not saying they're not going to go

(57:53):
to the playoffs. This yearuse I think they will, But
there's a couple of teams out there, and see if
you agree. I'm going to start with the Buffalo Bills,
going to say that they're not going to make the playoffs,
but they got some in the problems right now.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
One of them has to be they're running back James Cook.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
Who wants a new contract number one, and they don't
have anybody backing him up, so he's got to get
the contract. He's on the last year of a rookie contract.
They got to pay the guy, right But as you
was only mentioned to me, I mean this is going
to cause some infighting and some problems within the locker
room where players are going to say, why the hell
aren't they signing Jimmy Cook, Why aren't they signing that?

Speaker 3 (58:26):
We need him right now?

Speaker 2 (58:27):
Look, they're probably the best team in that division. They
should have their sixth consecutive AFC title, but I'm not
so certain they're going to go any further than that.

Speaker 4 (58:39):
Look, I think.

Speaker 5 (58:39):
They're in a very unique situation when it comes to it.
Right Like, I think the Buffalo Bills are a team
that is good, They're on the come up. They had
an MVP and Josh Allen. They're good enough to be
a super Bowl team. It's unfortunate that they play in
an AFC that has been dominated by the Kansas City
Chiefs and they haven't quite been able to conquer or

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that beast. And sometimes it takes a minute to be
able to do that, and they have to learn how
to do it, and they all they can do is
continue to build a team that keeps knocking on the door,
and eventually, if you knock on the door adventurely, you're
gon knock it down. They're close, and I know it's
frustrating for Buffalo Bills fans. Haven't been a member of
the Buffalo Bills. I know how loyal that fan base is.

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They just haven't quite been able to get over the top.
But they're in the conversation. And the one thing that
I always remember from my time in Buffalo, Marv Levy
used to say this, like the surest way to get
the Golden ticket is to be able to own and
dominate your division. And the Buffalo Bills have dominated that division.
So you can almost write them in and pen that

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they're going to be in the tournament.

Speaker 4 (59:46):
And as long as you're in the tournament, you have
a chance.

Speaker 5 (59:50):
Now it's about them learning how to vanquage some of
the top teams. They did a good job not going
to Baltimore. They understand how to deal with that. The
Kansas City Chiefs have been their nemesis. They haven't quite
been able to get over that hump, even though they
beat him in the regular season, haven't been in the postseason.
That is the team, and they have to build a
team that is capable of knocking off Patty Mahomes and company.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
Yeah, look, you're right about running it down in pamp
because they're going to win this sixth consecutive AFC title.
There's no doubt about that, unless unless Josh Allen gets hurt,
you know, And let's just face that fat point.

Speaker 4 (01:00:21):
I mean, I don't think that's certainly not put Let's
not put that on Josh. Let's not give him, let's
not putting the way on him. And that's not fun.

Speaker 5 (01:00:28):
Like the NFL is worse when we lose some of
the some of the big players. So we certainly want
to see Josh Allen play. But yeah, that's a big
part of it. How can this team navigate that, How
can they survive it? How can they navigate those circumstances
like the tough terrain. They got to get Josh Allen
to play at the MVP level in the postseason, but
they need a supporting cast to also step up. So

(01:00:51):
Keyank Coleman in the second year as their Marque white Out,
he's going to step up. They paid shoot Khalier Sucre.
They want him to continue to play at a high level. Look,
putting all those things to better, but playing your best
down the stretch. That's what the Buffalo Bill said the folks,
So can we play our best football in the month
of January.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
You know, as much as success they've had, not only
the last several years, but really throughout their career, because
they've been very competitive, even when Marv Leda was there
for consecutive Super Bowls, they still have not had a
Lombardi Trophy. Think about that, like the kiss of death.
And people talk about the Buffalo Bills, and you know
how great they are, they haven't done it, you know,
And they talk about Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
I mean, can't do it on the big stage.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
No, it's the Buffalo Bills that can't do it on
the big stage, not Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
Right, it's the Bills. They got the kiss of death.

Speaker 4 (01:01:41):
They do because of Death's that's not great. They haven't
been able to get it done. They got to figure
it out.

Speaker 5 (01:01:48):
But you know that's this is why you see the
tears and all of that when teams finally win the championship,
because you have to go through some things. And the
Buffalo Bills are in the of going through their things
trying to earn their right.

Speaker 4 (01:02:04):
To be a championship squad.

Speaker 3 (01:02:06):
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(01:03:26):
do they do this? Is this what the New York
Knicks waited for? Mike Brown? Not official yet, not official,
but it's the only guy that the Knicks have interviewed twice.
It looks like Mike Brown's gonna get the job, you know,
if he was so successful, he wouldn't be on the
beach looking for a job. All right, That's all I
gotta say. I'm not happy that Tim's got the acts.
I thought it was bad. It's a bad move. It's

(01:03:47):
a bad out after it really is. I mean, he
did a hell of a job for that team. This guy,
Mike Brown, five teams, two time coach of the Year.
You know, how does a two time coaching year get
bumped to the curb? Really, I don't get it. I
understand it. Four time champion as a top assistant in
Golden State and San Antonio.

Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
He has a plus five hundred record of the NBA
of four hundred and fifty wins. But look when you
have to look as his resume and they say who
he coached, that doesn't impress me. Don't tell me what
he did, not who he coached. He coached Curry and
Green and Thompson and Tim Duncan. I'm an Joebilee an,
Tony Parker and Lebron and Kobe. That's great, all right,

(01:04:29):
tell me what you did, don't tell me who you coach.
I want Tims back, That's all I'm saying. I'm not
happy with this move.

Speaker 5 (01:04:36):
Well, look, I think it's the best that they possibly
could do given the circumstances of how they bungled the
coaching search right. So, normally, if you're a team that
is going to move on from a Tom Thibodeaux, you
should have a better option waiting. And it appears that
it wasn't a well fought out plan for the New
York Knicks. But I think Mike Brown has the potential

(01:04:56):
to save them. Not saying that he's a better coach
than Tips, but maybe he can unlock a different part
of the team in.

Speaker 4 (01:05:03):
New York than Tibbs unlocked.

Speaker 5 (01:05:05):
When I think about Tibbs and I think about the
Knicks under him, I think about how hard they played,
how long they played, how they were more defensive oriented
than offensive oriented, and look at worked well for them.
They got to the conference finals four out of five times.
I think they qualified for the playoffs. He had a
very very successful run in New York. If this team
is going to get over the top, though, what you're

(01:05:27):
saying is maybe Mike Brown can tap into some of
the experience and expertise that he gleaned from his time
as an assistant with the Spurs and the Warriors as
a head coach leading Lebron with the Cavaliers, the Lakers,
bringing Sacramento back to prominence. What I would like to
see the Knicks do is can they find a better
way to make it more team centric on offense than

(01:05:49):
the Jalen Brunston Show.

Speaker 4 (01:05:51):
Where it's dribble, dribble, dribble, drible dribble, drible dribble, Jaylen
Brunston bail us out.

Speaker 5 (01:05:55):
If they can find a way to make the game
easy for their best players while maintain the defense and
playing with a little faster tempo to match Indiana, maybe
they can advance farther. Look big shoes to step into
for Mike Brown, but at least you have someone who
is near or at the same level as a time

(01:06:15):
tip of though, as opposed to someone that was inexperienced
who you didn't know could take their job and to
make it a better situation than it was.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
I love it, you know why, to two of us
together like your sanity and I'm emotion so it helps balance.

Speaker 3 (01:06:32):
It's like a seesaw. It balances.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
I get emotional, but you bring it down to earth
with sanity.

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
And your normal and I'm not. I admit it. I
know I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
But here's the thing, here's the question. I'm so happy
that you were here with sanity to this situation. I
want to know what it's like because you could. You're
the only one could answer this question because you played
the game. You've been there, done that. What is it
like when you're on a team and they can the
coach And I think a lot of players know when
the coach is going to get canned, when the team
isn't losing, it's his full and they say, you know,

(01:07:01):
the talk is in the locker room, we're gonna get
a new coach next year, no doubt. I don't think
that was the talk in New York with the Knicks.
So there's going to be a divide in that locker
room in New York saying I wish Tibbs was here
or Tibbs didn't do this when Brown comes in there,
that's the difference. That's the problem. You were on teams
that you knew when the season started, if they started
zero to three, two and five, whatever it may be,

(01:07:23):
this is a good chance he's not going to be
there next year. So and you probably were relieved, you
want to see the guy go. All right, I don't
think the guys on the Knicks wanted to see Tibbs go.

Speaker 5 (01:07:32):
Uh, not everyone, but some people obviously did because when
they talk about the exit meetings and those things and
how it played out, maybe there were some people that
wanted to see him up out of there.

Speaker 4 (01:07:45):
But I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:07:47):
Look, it's a very difficult situation when it comes to
like Tom Tiberdeaux and why they decided to move on
from him. But now that you've moved on for him,
you made the commitment. What you're trying to do is
find someone who can take that roster as presently constructed a.

Speaker 4 (01:08:02):
Win at a higher level.

Speaker 5 (01:08:03):
And maybe they're saying the way to eat squeeze some
more wins out or to up to any when it
comes to the offensive effort, also to up to Annie
when it comes to playing more people. Normally, when you
fire somebody, it's like relationships, like when you break up
with one girlfriend, the next girlfriend is typically opposite than

(01:08:24):
the one that you just broke up with.

Speaker 4 (01:08:26):
So the Knicks have gone for the opposite.

Speaker 5 (01:08:28):
They went from a defensive minded coach to an offensive
minded coach, from a coach who only wanted to play
a handful of players to someone who's coming from a
situation where they played a ton of players, like Golden
State and Sacramento. So instead of going from a six
to seven man rotation, maybe to go ten to twelve.
A lot of this is copycat and what was successful
this season. Okay, see Indiana one. With depth, they want,

(01:08:52):
with pace, they want with pressure. Maybe the Knicks are
going to try and follow into that. But I'm gonna
say this, I've never seen the Knicks win when they've
been an up tempo team. They've always been at their
best when they are grinded out, grimy.

Speaker 4 (01:09:05):
Blue collar team that reflects the city.

Speaker 5 (01:09:07):
We'll see if the glitz and glamor works on Broadway,
but in New York it typically doesn't work like that.
They are a walk it up, grind it out. We're
tougher than you. That's how we went because we were
referend rugged.

Speaker 3 (01:09:19):
You're exactly right.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
Even when Patino coached the Knicks, they pressed eighty four
feet full court and everybody said you can't do that
in the NBA, but he did it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:27):
He did it with those guys.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
He made them press full court, press eighty four feet
on a nightly basis and it worked.

Speaker 3 (01:09:33):
They won. Patino won when he coached the Knicks.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
You know, his college coaching he brought to the NBA
and it worked all right. And Timms, I'm not saying
he full court pressed, but he was a tough, defensive
minded coach.

Speaker 3 (01:09:46):
I don't know if Mike Brown's going to do that,
and we'll see.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
I hope he wins. You know, I love the Knicks,
I really do. I grew up with the Knicks. But
I just don't think it was the right move. And
I think, and you know what, I don't like the
idea that there was no one that came forth.

Speaker 3 (01:09:59):
This Leon Rose, who is an agent now he's a
general manager.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
Show your face, talk to the press, talk to the
I want to know why you fired TIBs. I want
to know why if in fact, he would have made
it to the finals, if he would have been fired,
then too, you tell us.

Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
You know, you owe that to the public.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
You ww it to at least your fans who pay
for tickets and go on a nightly basis. I think
there has to be more more discussion.

Speaker 3 (01:10:21):
Back then.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
You got to be more transparent. You have to be
you just can't hide. You can't fire a guy and hide.
You got to tell us why you fired him, don't
you think?

Speaker 4 (01:10:31):
Yeah, I mean I think you have to. You know,
you have to be able to tell the people.

Speaker 5 (01:10:34):
But I think what they would rather do is it's
a lot easier to talk about TIBs dismissal when you're
trying out a new coach, because now you can deflect
those questions and put it on to Mike Brown. You
can talk about a TIBs did a great job, just
that we're looking to get to the next level and
we believe that the new guy we hired here, this
guy right here you see beside me, Mike Brown, he's
going to take us to the next level.

Speaker 4 (01:10:53):
Mike, tell him how you're gonna take us to the
next level.

Speaker 5 (01:10:56):
It is easier to deflect that way within and instead
of me sitting up there a boy myself having to
answer the questions from a horde of media that are confused,
perplexed why we moved.

Speaker 4 (01:11:08):
On for someone to just let us to the conference finals.

Speaker 3 (01:11:11):
Look, I get it, I get that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
First though, he hasn't been named the coach, and so
we're kind of jumping the gun a little bit. But
the thing is, I get why Mike Brown will probably
accept the number one. There's only thirty jobs here and
you want to work. And I think that everybody in
their right mind, you know, they'll say, well, why were
you going to a prussure cooking like that? Why would
you want to coach in New York with the media.
Why would you want to coach in a situation where
you know, tips took them to the players, to the
finals and the ease and they haven't done that in

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twenty five years and they fired the guy.

Speaker 3 (01:11:36):
You know why you do it?

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
A thirty jobs only b you want to work and see,
you think you could do what others can't do. Yeah,
I mean I think coaches have an ego. That you
got to have an ego to coach. I don't think
it's a bad thing. See I could do it. He
didn't do it. Let me try. I think I could
do it better.

Speaker 4 (01:11:53):
Yeah, I mean, that's why, that's why you take those jobs.

Speaker 5 (01:11:55):
You take the job because you believe in your soul,
you believe that you're coach and that you can take
any situation and make it right. That is the arrogance
and ego that every coach has. And every good coach
has that. Mike Brown feels like he can step in there.
He was able to build out a plan. Here's what
I would do if you give me this job. Here's
how we would take the Knicks to.

Speaker 4 (01:12:15):
The next level.

Speaker 5 (01:12:16):
And he will lean on all of those previous experiences
to help him. And let's be honest, when you begin
to think about it, there's no one who has been
under the bright lights more than Mike Brown as a coach.
He coached Lebron when Lebron was the chosen one and
guided that team to the finals. He then went and

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coached in LA which is a very difficult situation to
step into, but he did. And look, it didn't go
the way that he wanted. But he's been on a
pedestal in a big stage. Took a step back in
Golden State, but watched how Steve Kerr handled that, and
then he went to Sacramento and did the impossible. He
had that team playing at a high level. And I
will say this, and I bet you they're people and

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Sacramento that rude the day that he was fired because
of the job that he did with that team. So
he's prepared to step in this pressure cooker. That is
New York because in New York it's finals or bust.
With this team, he understands it. He's been in that situation.
He's dealt with pressure as a coach. So I don't
know outside of Mike Malone, I don't know if you

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could have found a better candidate. But Mike Malone is
too similar to Tom Thibodeau to get the job right.

Speaker 3 (01:13:28):
And I feel Malone will get a job because he's
a New York guy.

Speaker 5 (01:13:31):
I mean, I definitely, but they're too they're too similar,
Like I'm not saying they're wanting the same, but they're close.
They're like cousins ornery, gonna get after it, this and that.

Speaker 4 (01:13:41):
And I love Mike Malone. I think Mike malonea is great,
But I.

Speaker 3 (01:13:44):
Can see Brendan was the hell of a coach too.

Speaker 5 (01:13:47):
Yeah, yeah, I can see why they're like a little
too close to what we just had.

Speaker 3 (01:13:53):
Yeah, hey, he what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
And last, but not leaves, speaking of the NBA, what
about Miles Turner leaving the Paces to go to the
Milwaukee Bucks. I get it, four years, one hundred and
seven mil. But still, you know you're on a team, right,
there that was this close see my fingers right now,
this close to winning at all, and you leave that.
I just don't understand it. And then you know the
Bucks waiving Damian Lillard. I mean, this guy, it's unbelievable.

(01:14:20):
He's gonna get what one hundred and thirteen million dollars
not to work to rehab. It's been a good deal
for him when you think about it. One hundred and
thirteen mil owed to him in the final two years. Unbelievab.
I mean the money that is thrown around in the NBA.
They talk about football, the NFL. These guys making a
big money. I mean, you know quarterbacks. No, it's the
NBA that's making the money. Think about that. The NBA

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makes big money. These guys are busting their heads in
the NFL. They deserve every dime they get. And people
are going to see these quarterbacks play. So pay those guys.
That's the name of the game. But Miles Turner, No
one's buying a ticket to see Miles Turner play. Blieve
me for one hundred and seven mil. I don't think so.

Speaker 5 (01:15:00):
No, So you accomplished a few different things in doing
this bitter rival. You strengthen your team and weakend your
biggest opponent. The Pacers, Miles Turner was a significant part
of their run and now without Halliburton for most of
the season and Miles Turner, this team is not the
same team that made its way to the finals.

Speaker 4 (01:15:21):
So that's the win in your favor. For your team.

Speaker 5 (01:15:24):
You get a stretch, a big who can shoot from range,
a rent protector, someone to put around Giannis as you're
changing the game. Remember Doc Rivers kind of shaping this
roster and this team into the image that he had
for how a championship team ship play. And even though
people talk about playing faster and with pace and those things,

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doc Rivers won a specific way when he was with
the Celtics. When you're backed into a corner, you try
and recreate the success that you've had. You go back
to those old tactics and schemes and you try and
plug and play players that can give you something that's
familiar to you. That's what the Millionwaukee Bucks are doing.
And even though the price is significant, hefty price tag
over one hundred million dollars for Miles Turner, doc Rivers

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certainly believes that he can take that team as constructed
with Giannis and Turner and some of the other.

Speaker 4 (01:16:12):
Guys and have success. And look, it's.

Speaker 5 (01:16:15):
Unfortunate with Dame Liver because it was a big deal
when they traded for Dame Lowid. But yes, when he
popped the Achilles, you knew, man, it was short. It
was Look, it wasn't gonna be long for him in Milwaukee.
Hats off to him. One hundred million dollars to step
away from that team fully, rehab and go somewhere else. Man,
that's that's the early Christmas present for that Dame.

Speaker 3 (01:16:36):
Look, I would pop my achilles to get a hundred
million dollars.

Speaker 4 (01:16:39):
Really, yeah, I would do it. I can't say that
would pop my I'd like one.

Speaker 5 (01:16:43):
Hundred million dollars. I mean, I would certainly consider it.
That's the pain and rehab that would be tough.

Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
He was just saying, he's Bucky Brooks on Mady from it.
By the way, this is Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports.
Ready and we've reached the crossroads, yay or may and
it's next all right, it's that time. Yeah, you and
Na coming right up. Nine minutes before the top of
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Speaker 3 (01:17:10):
So the little dumper taken away?

Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
Okay, let's figure rack those brains, gentlemen, these stories eight
it is I think this day.

Speaker 3 (01:17:22):
All right, little dumper? Do you have one?

Speaker 9 (01:17:25):
I do have one? Andy and Bucky. So it's actually
topical on this. It's fourth of July related. So yeah
or nay on this one, guys? Is the Nathan Hotdogs,
uh you know the hot dog eating contest? Yeah or
nay on it being absolutely discussing and unwatchable.

Speaker 3 (01:17:42):
So is that a yeay or nay?

Speaker 4 (01:17:43):
Andy Furman?

Speaker 2 (01:17:44):
It is totally disgusting because I wanted to stick my
hand down my throat when I watched it the other day.

Speaker 3 (01:17:48):
How do you shove that stuff down your throat so quickly?

Speaker 2 (01:17:50):
As I mentioned early on the Buck, I had two
hot dogs the other day of July fourth, I was full.
I mean, these guys shoving it in there, it's disgusting.
It's it's in human, it really is. They should put
that on TV.

Speaker 4 (01:18:02):
Yeah, it's gross.

Speaker 5 (01:18:03):
I mean not even just you talk about like that
part of it, just them dipping it in water and
buns and just all of it is gross. It just
reminds me of a drunken stupor that you would have
when you're eighteen two.

Speaker 4 (01:18:16):
Not something you should do if you're a grown up.
So yeah, okay, don't.

Speaker 2 (01:18:18):
Get personal with me. I know you've seen me in
those situations. Don't just keep it quiet. That's between us.

Speaker 9 (01:18:26):
Or we're all in an agreement then, because I also
find it absolutely disgusting, So let's go. So we're all
with the naise on it.

Speaker 3 (01:18:33):
People find you disgusting, it's.

Speaker 4 (01:18:35):
Oh come on, I'm a little dumber, Come.

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
On, alright, alright, we got another one.

Speaker 3 (01:18:43):
Well, moving on.

Speaker 9 (01:18:44):
So Clayton Kershaw just recorded his three thousand strikeout. Is
that more impressive than three hundred career wins?

Speaker 4 (01:18:52):
Yeah? Or nay, Bucky Brooks.

Speaker 5 (01:18:54):
I would say three hundred wins more impressive. So no,
it's not more impressive, but it is.

Speaker 4 (01:18:58):
I'll saw their feet. The dessert is recognition.

Speaker 5 (01:19:00):
To strike out three thousand batters, man, it says something
about your longevity, your consistency, and the overall stuff that
you bring to the mound every time you stump out
onto it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
I say the three thousand strike CAUs is more important
than three hundred wins and more impressive. You know why it
goes to three hundred crew wins. You have a team
effort on that. This is an individual effort, and the
three hundred wins. You could pitch five and a half innings,
six innings and get a win thanks to relievers and
whatever it may be. Three thousand strike calls. That's one
hell of a record.

Speaker 9 (01:19:30):
All right, Well we're gonna move on over to WNBA.
So WNBA expands to Detroit, Philly, and Cleveland.

Speaker 4 (01:19:38):
So is that too much?

Speaker 9 (01:19:39):
Too soon?

Speaker 2 (01:19:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:19:40):
Nay, Andy, I say, yeah, calm down.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
I know I think the first one is gonna be
what Philly? Maybe they're gonna wait, not all the three
on one shot, but just wait a little bit, and
you know what, we're gonna get into this next hour.
But you know they could have picked some better cities
than these hell holes. Really, I mean, come up, really? Yeah,
I'm the OPHI cutting him. I love you, Sophie cutting him.

(01:20:04):
You all right, we'll get into what you have to say. Really,
hell ho, the bit of America?

Speaker 3 (01:20:11):
You kidding me?

Speaker 4 (01:20:11):
Gee? Oh?

Speaker 5 (01:20:13):
My best Like Sophie Cunningham there she needs to read
upon her history in the sand, that those cities were
in existance before the fever were You got to make
sure you respect that, but not hill holes. I actually
like the fact that they're there. They have solid fan bases,
a lot of respect.

Speaker 2 (01:20:27):
Not real All right, uh oh, we're moving on. Okay,
we're gonna continue talking about the hell holes. Coming up
next day with us. I'm Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (01:20:37):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:20:38):
Two topics, not one, but two topics made her famous.
We'll get to that in just about a minute. Good morning, everybody,
Good morning America. This is Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports.

Speaker 4 (01:20:47):
Ready.

Speaker 3 (01:20:47):
He's Bucky Brooks.

Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
I'm Indy Firmanent went broke using your life from the
Fox Was Radio Studios. Bucky, how's it going? Everything good?
You come down from that July fourth high?

Speaker 1 (01:20:56):
I bet?

Speaker 3 (01:20:56):
Huh pretty good?

Speaker 4 (01:20:58):
Huh Yeah, everything is good. I am all done. My
ears are clear.

Speaker 5 (01:21:02):
After all the fireworks popping for a day and a half,
I'm good to go.

Speaker 2 (01:21:06):
What's the next time I'm gonna get fireworks? Tell me
what is that Labor day that that fire is it
just July fourth? Because I can't I can't handle anything.

Speaker 4 (01:21:14):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:21:14):
It starts July second. It goes to like June thirtieth.

Speaker 4 (01:21:17):
The next year, for the next time we have Christmas.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
Right, you know when I lived in Florida, I think
they did. They did shoot a fireworks on Christmas in
New Year's Eve.

Speaker 5 (01:21:27):
New Year's Yes, I can understand that Labor Days, Laby
Day fireworks.

Speaker 2 (01:21:33):
They do have a big fireworks show in Cincinnati for
Labor Day.

Speaker 4 (01:21:36):
Maybe maybe so Labor Day.

Speaker 5 (01:21:37):
So you got a reprieve right after all the college
football games off, you can go up, you can step
outside and.

Speaker 3 (01:21:42):
I can take their plugs in.

Speaker 4 (01:21:43):
Here some fire yeah, see, here's some fireworks. Here we go.

Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
All right, we got so much to cover. I don't
like to leave any loose, says. But first it's time
for the tire rock play the day, now the.

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Speaker 8 (01:22:00):
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then where we go, my Bucky before we roll on
here because I want to talk about the ladies in
particular the WNBA list. Tie up some loose ends here
with the little dumper, with the A N A. You
got a couple of more DA and A questions? You
want to little Dumpy? You want to handle him for us?

Speaker 1 (01:22:50):
Yeah? I got him for you.

Speaker 9 (01:22:51):
So speaking of the WNBA, So, WNBA's age rule is
now twenty years old for international players and you have
to be twenty two for US players.

Speaker 1 (01:23:01):
Yay or nay? Andy Furman, I say nay.

Speaker 2 (01:23:04):
Big time, because you're just taking money out of the
pockets of these potential players, you know, the the NBA.
I need to go round of high school, right, come
on low with that number, will you please?

Speaker 4 (01:23:16):
No, I don't want to lower the number.

Speaker 5 (01:23:18):
And the reason why you talked about the brand, and
you talked about how the brand works, particularly in football,
where the brand works because you have people that are
tied to their colleges longer, so you have an opportunity
to build up their brand at a lower level. So
for the WNBA to really pop, it's going to be
more of the homegrown players establishing a brand and bringing
their fans over to the WNBA. They're not as many

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international players that come over like the NBA, so to me,
it makes more sense from.

Speaker 4 (01:23:45):
A bigger brand perspective.

Speaker 5 (01:23:47):
Make them stay in college, make them grow as homegrown
entities before they enter the league.

Speaker 3 (01:23:53):
Interesting, and that's why they're doing it? Is that why
the rule is that way?

Speaker 4 (01:23:56):
I mean like that. I don't know if there's any
rationale behind.

Speaker 5 (01:24:00):
Any of the rules that they have, but I would
think from a business standpoint, it would be more successful
if you allow them to grow and full and really
thrive at the collegiate level before they make their weight
into the WNBA.

Speaker 2 (01:24:12):
Little dumper, did you go, mister sanity right there, Bucky Brooks,
Little dumpers, A.

Speaker 5 (01:24:16):
Little dumper, A little dumper that's not that's not a
great that's not a great name.

Speaker 9 (01:24:21):
A little Dumper, Well he's he is Christian to me
with that name now, so it's gonna stick. Apparently, it's fine,
it's funny.

Speaker 4 (01:24:30):
You gotta like it.

Speaker 9 (01:24:31):
I got one more, the little Dumper is one more
in the tank, Wealthy Weld. The w NBA Seattle Storm
is set to unveil a Institute of super or statue
sorry of super Bird on August seventeenth. Are they just
producing too many statues?

Speaker 3 (01:24:52):
Yay or nay?

Speaker 5 (01:24:52):
Bucky Brooks, No, not at all? Who like you can
never have too many statues. Super Bird is a legend,
particularly up in the Pacific Northwest.

Speaker 4 (01:25:00):
With their Storm team, they won multiple championships in the WNBA.

Speaker 5 (01:25:04):
She deserves to get her flowers, and the best way
to pass out that bouquet of flowers is to put
the flowers in the hands of a statue.

Speaker 4 (01:25:11):
So yeah, I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:13):
Well, you know what, I'd be a hypocrite if I said, yes,
there are too many statues, silly because super Bird statue
is going to be next to one of the guys
I really love, Lenny Wilkins. The last Saturday they put
a statue in the same spot was Sue's going to
be in August seventeenth of Lenny Wilkins, the kid from
Boys High School in Brooklyn, and I spoke to him
the other day and if anybody's interested, I wrote about him.
Will be in tomorrow's Brooklyn Daily Eagle. But Lenny Eagle.

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Lenny Wilkins is an institutions. He's been in three Hall
of Fames. You've seen Lenny Wilkins play having you buck Really,
he's tremendous. What a guy eighty seven years young and
he's right there. So they put a statue up there
in Seattle last week. So yeah, make the statues, make
as many as you can. So I love that. There
we go, Thank you all day, Thank you for your time.

(01:25:56):
All right, we move on.

Speaker 3 (01:25:57):
We'll talk about the ladies down a WNBA.

Speaker 2 (01:25:59):
And and one full swoop if they not one but
two incidents. One player, one young lady has become quite popular,
although really she upset a lot of people in the process,
and her jersey sales are gone through the roof. And
by the way, Bucket Brooks, would you purchase a w
NBA jersey?

Speaker 5 (01:26:17):
I'm more likely to purchase a sweatshirt than a jersey,
but I would support the league. I would and if
I had to buy a jersey though, But if I
had to buy a jersey, I would probably be on
the Azi Wilson train more so than anybody else.

Speaker 2 (01:26:31):
I think it's rough for a guy to wear a
w NBA jersey because it looks like you're stalking them,
don't you.

Speaker 4 (01:26:35):
Think a little bit it be?

Speaker 5 (01:26:36):
It can be a little creepy, especially fifty plus.

Speaker 3 (01:26:40):
Like, yeah, I would wear use a team T shirt.

Speaker 5 (01:26:42):
I would wear that, Like That's why I'm more likely
to wear a hoodie or something like that, so I
don't look like the creepy old man that's kind of
prowling and waiting to prey upon.

Speaker 2 (01:26:52):
Although I am one, but I don't want to. I
don't want advertise that I am one.

Speaker 4 (01:26:55):
Yeah, I just don't want to put it out for
the period.

Speaker 2 (01:26:58):
I'm talking about. Sophie Cunningham. She's wonderful, she really is.
First thing, she said she would be a bodyguard to
protect her team at Caitlyn Clark. I love it. I
love it funny so much. But why her Bucky? Where
was Eliah Boston? Where was Boston? Where was ab She's
our teammate. She could have said, where was Kelsey Mitchell,
the kid from Princeton High School in Cincinnati?

Speaker 3 (01:27:19):
Why didn't she say anything?

Speaker 2 (01:27:21):
Why was there first year player on the team but
her name is Sophie Cunningham on the roster.

Speaker 3 (01:27:25):
Why does she have to do it?

Speaker 4 (01:27:26):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:27:27):
And I don't want to mention skin color here, Please
stop me with that. I don't think I hope to
goodness had nothing to do with that. But where was
Kelsey Mitchell one of my favorites. I watched her play
in high school and Elijah Boston come on? Why were
they there to defender and come to public and say
something about it?

Speaker 4 (01:27:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:27:43):
Well, look, I think you can offend people in so
many different ways. Sophie was asked the question and she
chose to verbalize her thoughts.

Speaker 4 (01:27:50):
We saw Sophie step up.

Speaker 5 (01:27:52):
When Caitlyn Clark get into a little little testy interaction
with an appollem. Sophie Cuttingham was one of the first
ones to come over. But I feel like in a team,
all team members would step up and defended to some degree. Yeah,
I mean, obviously you want to hear other teammates come
but I think it's one of these things like whenever

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it comes to Kaitlin Clark, it's always loaded, right, Like
whatever you say can and will be used against you
when it comes to it.

Speaker 4 (01:28:21):
So I think you just have to be careful. And
I think some people are.

Speaker 5 (01:28:24):
Leary of waiting in those waters because they don't want
to be lumped into or brought into a controversial deal
through something that's not of their own doing.

Speaker 2 (01:28:34):
Well, I hear what you're saying, but I would think
that the fact that Sophie came up and went public
and really you know, was forceful in what she said
that you know, I'm going to defend her, I'm going
to protect her. You know, what does that do with
these other players on the team, the ones that I
mentioned in particular, You know, they'll say, you know, she's
doing it because it's an ego.

Speaker 3 (01:28:52):
Why is she doing this?

Speaker 2 (01:28:53):
She wants to pub I mean, really had to cause
a little bit of rift. There's some problems in that
locker room. You gotta believe there is. I mean, the
fact that the rest of the league someone is jealous, envious.
So I hate Caitlin Clark. It has to roll over
to some extent, at least with our teammates.

Speaker 3 (01:29:10):
I would think.

Speaker 5 (01:29:12):
I don't know if it necessarily like rolls Over, I
don't think there. Look, I think the league isn't a
thing where on the outside, we in a small faction
of the media are the competitive conflict that has arisen
NDWNBA has led people to make it more than what
it really is. It's not jealousy in terms of a

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racial composition. I think like anytime you have alpha players
that are competing for the biggest prize, there's going to
be some conflict. And though us on the outside have
made it more about Caitlyn Clark and they should be,
they should have gratitude and all these other things, at
the end of the day, we're.

Speaker 4 (01:29:55):
Overshadowing a game.

Speaker 5 (01:29:57):
And anytime there's a game where you're keeping score, you
want to be on the right side of the scoreboard.
And a lot of the conflict that we're seeing as
it relates to Kaitlyn Clark is due to that. And
I know people have pointed out, like, oh, how could
the players vote the ninth best shooting guard?

Speaker 4 (01:30:12):
She has to be on top.

Speaker 5 (01:30:13):
There's envying those things, but opinions are opinions, and some
people when they look at her game, they can see
the flaws that she may have in her game in
those things. So look, it is what it is. I
think the competitive conflict is good. I think ultimately in
every sport, for viewership and for entry, you need a
villain and you need a heat doubt and whatever part

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that Kaitlyn Clark plays in that story, that's great. And
then it means somebody else has to play the counter
the nemesis to that.

Speaker 2 (01:30:43):
You know you're right, just just to go off the
rail just a little bit. I don't think baseball has
a villain, and I think that hurts, I really do.
I mean, they got somewhat of a hero in o'hani.
I mean perhaps maybe Aaron Judge a hero perhaps, but
a villain I don't think so. Basketball, well you got
Lebron he said, hero on a villain, right, and football,

(01:31:04):
I guess Tom Brady was a villain. I mean, who's
the villain in the NFL right now? Patrick mahone.

Speaker 4 (01:31:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:31:11):
Pat Mahomes has a little bit of a villain thing
because they won, like people hate them because they're winning, right,
So there's there's some of that involved.

Speaker 2 (01:31:20):
And the Dallas Cowboys could be the villain the entire team,
the America's Team.

Speaker 4 (01:31:24):
Maybe I don't know. I mean a little bit.

Speaker 5 (01:31:26):
They carry some of that because they dubbed themselves America's Team.
Like that's the thing, like people like, how are you
Are you gonna give yourself your own nickname? Like little Dumper?
How do you give yourself your own nickname? No, someone
else has to bestow a nickname upon you. You can't
go out and say, hey man, I'm the little Dumper.
Hear me roar Like it has to be something that
somebody else gives you.

Speaker 2 (01:31:46):
There you go, okay, just a little bit, thank you
very much, thank you, Jerry. Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:31:51):
Then we go back on the rail of sex.

Speaker 2 (01:31:53):
That was Sophie cunning Here, that was one now one
A the bomb was once she talked about the w
NBA expansion and here Sophie Cunningham too.

Speaker 3 (01:32:01):
Bit we don't have a picture, but let's listen.

Speaker 4 (01:32:03):
I know the history behind the WNBA.

Speaker 6 (01:32:05):
I know that both of those cities have had teams
of four and they got us who at So I'm
thankful for that. All I was really getting at is
like Broadway the all core lifestyle, and so I think
that is really intriguing. I think Miami's intriguing. That's all
I was getting at. I'm thankful for what they've done
for our history of the sport. I think it'd be
fun to kind of get some teams outside of the
NBA market. I do think there is benefit when you

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do have an NBA team, But that's all I was
getting in. I think people totally missed for that situation.
I would never speak down upon middle class, blue collar
working people.

Speaker 4 (01:32:35):
That's where I come from.

Speaker 6 (01:32:36):
I'm from Missouri, I'd get I'm in Indiana, And that's
kind of why I'm hinting at Broadway sounds fun, Sophie,
Miami sounds fun.

Speaker 3 (01:32:42):
All I was getting, Sophie, I'm with you. I'm with
you one thousand percent.

Speaker 2 (01:32:47):
I love your Selfie, because Detroit, Cleveland and Philly.

Speaker 3 (01:32:49):
The hell holes. Really, the only reason, the.

Speaker 2 (01:32:53):
Only reason the WNBA has seen as franchises there is
because this NBA owned his own team in that same city.
Sure they should be in Miami, Sure she should be
in Nashville. They expect they should be in Louisville. They
should be in Louisville. That's where they should be. Well,
a team in South Carolina doing Staley should be coaching
a team in South Carolina Columbia. That's where they should be, really,

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but you know what they're not. And Sophie on there
and you know what, you didn't have to answer, but
you did. That showed me a lot of clears because
the city of Detroit, they went crazy. There is a
response on X they said the attendance of its previous team,
the Shock, and Detroit's sports town, which I'm excited.

Speaker 3 (01:33:31):
Come on, really, let it go. Let it go.

Speaker 5 (01:33:34):
I don't see anybody you disrespected there a handful with city.
I mean, it depends they came out of Detroit.

Speaker 2 (01:33:48):
Okay, Motown, the four Tops and Temptations. Those are the
two good things that came out of Detroit. Other than
that nothing and maybe Hank Greenberg, who played for the
Detroit Tigers.

Speaker 3 (01:33:57):
Really well, maybe Paris Sanders.

Speaker 5 (01:33:59):
I mean, if the check is big enough, I would
consider living in Detroit. But I will say this, I
now understand because she added context in terms of being
in Miami and those things. But here's what you're looking
at from a business perspective. If you're the WNBA, which
fan bases are going to come out and support the team,
and so when you think about summertime, and things to do,

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more things to do in Miami to keep you away
from the arena. When there's a WNBA team in town,
in Detroit, Cleveland, Philly. When you talk about the quote
unquote hill holes, not as much to do, more likely
to go to a WNBA game and get Max's capacity
at the game compared to those other series?

Speaker 2 (01:34:42):
Are you answered my question right there? Mister Bucket Brook's
nothing to do. That's why I know what he wants
to live there. There's nothing to do in Cleveland and Detroit.
You're exactly right, and so is Sophie Cunningham. Sophie, another
star next to your name. You're exactly right. There's nothing
to do in Cleveland. We're going to rock and roll
Hall of Fame gone. Really, I want to say the
fame like Rocket Broom. Maybe you can do a doubleheaded.

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You can go check out the Guardians. I don't like
the last name. I don't like you.

Speaker 3 (01:35:08):
Why change?

Speaker 5 (01:35:10):
You can see you can see the Guardians, then you
can go see the Rockers.

Speaker 4 (01:35:14):
I'm sure they're gonna bring that name back. Why not?
It sounds great to me.

Speaker 2 (01:35:18):
Well, they'll use the same equipment. That's why they're not
gonna you know, they use the same logo and stuff.
They're invested in a new logo. That's what I'll bring
it back.

Speaker 4 (01:35:25):
Keep everything, keep everything the same.

Speaker 2 (01:35:27):
Yeah, perhaps maybe for the record books. I don't know
how they do that. But still read. You're right, there's
not much to do. Really, I mean Detroit, really, I
just come on, you don't want to live in Detroit.
I'm just saying that. And you know, for those people
who live there, God bless you. You were born there,
you're raised there, you got family there. That's fine.

Speaker 3 (01:35:44):
That's what people do.

Speaker 2 (01:35:45):
They they migrate to where they stay and they don't
want to move there, relatives, the whole thing there. But
it's not a great no one's good. Grows up and said, man,
I wish I could live in Detroit. They say what
Sophie said. They want to live in Miami. That's what
they want to do. They want to go out of there.
They want to party, they want to have fun, and
they'll still go to the games.

Speaker 4 (01:36:02):
You can party in it. You can party in the Midwest.

Speaker 5 (01:36:05):
There are places where you can party in Detroit and Cleveland, respectively.

Speaker 10 (01:36:09):
Like you just have to like look for it. You
just gotta find the problem. You gotta look. You know,
in Miami you have to look. All you gotta do
is go out your door. Just go out the door.
Believe me, I know, I lived in Fort Lauderdale. It's great.

Speaker 3 (01:36:21):
It's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (01:36:22):
I mean, you go out at night and the next
thing you know is three days later, that's what happens
in Fort Lauderdale.

Speaker 3 (01:36:26):
Really, I loved it.

Speaker 4 (01:36:28):
Oh okay, that's still thing. I'm happy.

Speaker 2 (01:36:31):
But you know what, I give a lot of credit
to Sophie Cunningham who clarified her thoughts about the comments
on WNBA expansion from early and that was great that
she did that. She didn't have to do it, really,
I mean, the fact that she did that, well, I
don't know if she was told to do it. I
don't think so.

Speaker 3 (01:36:46):
But it was great.

Speaker 2 (01:36:47):
I love that, and I wish the league well. But
I do say that Nashville would have been a great spot.
And maybe you're right, Buck, Maybe because there are too
many activities there in Nashville's, you know, with the music
and all that stuff, maybe maybe people wouldn't go. Maybe
they have a hard time drawing people. I guess the
NFL is a different animal. It's once a week they
only play seven, eight, maybe now nine home games, so

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people go, and that's.

Speaker 3 (01:37:09):
The whole deal.

Speaker 2 (01:37:09):
They don't even compare NFL attendance to any other sport
because it's just a different animal.

Speaker 3 (01:37:14):
It really is.

Speaker 2 (01:37:14):
It's a different animal. And maybe WNBA and Nashville wouldn't go.
But you know what, I'm not so certain it's going
to go on Philadelphia.

Speaker 3 (01:37:22):
How's that? I don't think it will. I don't see Anthony.

Speaker 2 (01:37:26):
Gargano, my guy who's on Saturdays on Fox, going to
a WNBA game in Philly. You got big brutes in
Philadelphia like Anthony, blue collar guys. Men, real men will
not go to a WNBA game. That's what I'm saying.
I would go, but I don't think Anthony Gargana would go.

Speaker 5 (01:37:43):
I think they said the biggest attendees are men to
w NBA games.

Speaker 4 (01:37:47):
I think men really support the league. So I'm not.

Speaker 5 (01:37:50):
Saying you think so, Yeah, I think I think guys.

Speaker 4 (01:37:52):
I think guys really support the league.

Speaker 2 (01:37:55):
You know what, And that's that borders on the creepiness
of it. Maybe because God support women.

Speaker 5 (01:38:02):
Yeah, way, I think there's nothing creepy about women going
to see men.

Speaker 2 (01:38:06):
You know what, They don't get called out on that,
but men get called out on that. Why is that
men get called out? If a man goes to a WNBA.
If a man would wear a WNBA jersey of a
player with the name on the back, that would seem creepy.
But a woman could go to NFL games with a
player's name on the back, a baseball game with the

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jersey other than the name on the back.

Speaker 3 (01:38:28):
Why is that? Why is there a double standing there?

Speaker 2 (01:38:30):
And this is the first time I've ever asked the people, No, really,
the first I've ever asked for people to call in
and tell me on the phone. Never never given the
phone number to do this. Eight seven, seven ninety nine
on Fox eight seven seven nine nine six sixty three
sixty nine. Why is there or is there a double
standing with men and women rooting for sports teams and athletes?

Speaker 3 (01:38:51):
That's all I want to know.

Speaker 4 (01:38:54):
Yeah, I don't, Yeah, I don't. I don't know. I
don't know why that is. I don't know why we
were uncomfortable. But you know what the w n b
A is.

Speaker 5 (01:39:01):
It is having a tough time adjusting because I think
Kelsey Plumb had an incident.

Speaker 4 (01:39:05):
With the photograph to a guy.

Speaker 5 (01:39:07):
Yeah, yeah, things that are Yeah, things that are normal.
And the I would say male pro sports landscape are
a little different for females for women, they have to.

Speaker 4 (01:39:19):
Adapt and adjust to that.

Speaker 5 (01:39:20):
But yeah, if you have fans, you're gonna have autograph
seekers and guys are gonna want to have you sign
various things, whether it's paper notebooks, sign sign, sign my arms,
sign my chest, like, you can get some of that stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:39:33):
And yeah, she has to put.

Speaker 5 (01:39:35):
Boundaries on some of those things, but that's that's what happens.
When the sport goes mainstream and it grows, you're gonna
have more people of the opposite sex supporting you, and
you have to be okay with that.

Speaker 3 (01:39:46):
Well, I I support the w n B A I
I watched the games. I enjoy the games.

Speaker 2 (01:39:51):
But I wouldn't be caught dead in an NBA jersey
because the wn B a jersey, because they'll think I'm creepy,
especially well, you know jersey with the name on the
back of I walked with the Sophie Cunningham jersey.

Speaker 3 (01:40:01):
You know, she's a very attractive. I think she's a model.

Speaker 2 (01:40:04):
Yeah, I mean I'm not aware of They'll think I'm
a creepy old guy. I'm not doing it, you know,
but I'll wear an Indiana Fever T shirt. I'll do that,
you know. But it's okay, I guess for a woman
to wear. You know, who's a hunk. Who's a Joe Burrow,
a Joe Burrow jersey. I guess, I get right, it's
okay for that. We'll find that if someone has the

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guts to call and let us know. He's Bucky Brooks
on X at Bucket. Brooks had Andy Furman FSR and
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something over here that's gonna be good news. Good news
if you're a fan of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Speaker 3 (01:41:27):
Really got some good news.

Speaker 2 (01:41:28):
And a lot of people in the Cincinnati area where
I live are not fans of the Pittsburgh Steelers because
they played the Bengals. All right, I get it. But
the Pittsburgh Steelers signed the con artist, the con artist,
Omar Kahan to a three year contract. He's their general
manager and he succeeded the Kevin Colbert era back in
twenty twenty two. This is CON's twenty fifth year with

(01:41:51):
the Pittsburgh Steels. He signed a three year deal. So
why is that good news?

Speaker 4 (01:41:55):
Buck?

Speaker 2 (01:41:55):
You want to take a guess, I know why that's
good news. I'm taking again. I'm connecting the dots. You
have any idea why it's a good thing that they're
still has signed Omar Khan to three year extension.

Speaker 4 (01:42:05):
Is GM because this is what the Steelers do.

Speaker 5 (01:42:08):
Their model franchise when it comes to stability and their
consistency comes from the stability team that has only had
three head coaches and franchise history. They are a franchise
that believes in the continuity of maintaining same GM, same
head coach, and over time it has proven to be true. Look,

(01:42:29):
you have six Lombardi Trophies in the trophy case. You
have a team that is always in the conversation of
being a playoff contender.

Speaker 4 (01:42:37):
And when we.

Speaker 5 (01:42:38):
Are in the midst of a ring culture where everyone
is going all in on it, the Pittsburgh Steelers have
always been in the conversation. So even though they're not
quite good enough to challenge, they're always in the tournament
and you have to be in the tournament to be
a title contender, which is what they've been. And under
Omar Khan, they've changed a little bit of the way

(01:43:00):
they do business, but the results have been there.

Speaker 4 (01:43:03):
Look, this is a team that continues to succeed.

Speaker 5 (01:43:05):
They have success, Mike Tomlin has had success.

Speaker 4 (01:43:09):
Omar Khan is tied to some of that.

Speaker 5 (01:43:11):
They want to make sure that the franchise remains a
model franchise. By resigning to GM, they resigned a head
coach to continue the relationship that they've had that's been
successful for them.

Speaker 3 (01:43:22):
Okay, I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:43:23):
I mean I hadn't thought about in that direction that
the consistency is a great factor. And also the fact
that Mike Tomlin right now and there's been some rumblings
that maybe this will be his last year he's going
to leave. I think with Omar Khan there, I think
Mike Tomlin's a little safer, but he shouldn't even be
in any sort of a hot seat or a warmp seat.
He's never had a losing season. But my feeling was
the fact that it's good news for Omar Khan and

(01:43:44):
steel of fans because they wouldn't resign him if he
couldn't get TJ.

Speaker 3 (01:43:49):
Watt to sign.

Speaker 4 (01:43:50):
TJ.

Speaker 2 (01:43:50):
Wats a big link for this ball club and he
hasn't signed yet. I think the fact that Omar Khan
has signed the deal, why would they sign Omar Khan
to a three year extension if TJ. Watt, Well, he
would not sign TJ.

Speaker 4 (01:44:04):
Watt.

Speaker 3 (01:44:04):
So they know something. They know that TJ.

Speaker 2 (01:44:06):
Wat's pretty close to being signed thanks to Omar Khan
and that's why kN got his extension. Do you think
that's a possibility. Am not connecting the dots too soon?

Speaker 4 (01:44:14):
A W Well?

Speaker 5 (01:44:15):
I mean, look, I think as a matter of time,
they've already said that they want TJ. Watt to be
a still in a stiller for life, so they'll take
care of that. The money's the money to negotiation normally
doesn't start until you have deadlines.

Speaker 4 (01:44:27):
Deadlines are on the horizon.

Speaker 5 (01:44:28):
Went to start a training camp and those things, so
we'll see that deal get done likely before training camp starts.

Speaker 4 (01:44:33):
With Omar Khan, It's the entire body of work.

Speaker 5 (01:44:36):
Have the rookies performed, have the free agents that they've
signed and perform? Where we at when it comes to
the cap and the team and the long term projection
of the team. Do we feel like this team is
going to be a viable contender for the facilable future?
All of those things matter when it comes to evaluating
the performers of the GM. And I know this, and
I know Stellers fans are tired of grown tired of

(01:44:58):
the team not going to.

Speaker 4 (01:44:59):
The super Bowl.

Speaker 5 (01:45:01):
But I'll say this, there are eighty percent of the
fans in the league that would trade their team's success
for what the Stellers have been able to enjoy. And
oh my Cohn has done a solid job since he's
taken over the team.

Speaker 4 (01:45:15):
It's one where he has.

Speaker 5 (01:45:16):
To ignore the noise when it comes to how people
expect the Stellers to get down and perform in a
league that is very a league. In a conference, it's
very difficult to have sustain success. And when you talk
about the division Baltimore, Cleveland, Cincinnati, it's a rough road
when it comes to getting a top the division. But
they've been a top division, which is why everyone gets

(01:45:37):
rewarded when you have a team.

Speaker 4 (01:45:39):
Had to love success to Pittsburgh Steelers a hat.

Speaker 2 (01:45:41):
You know, it's funny you mentioned that because you're told
about the AFC North with Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati and Cleveland
that I'd say two years ago may have been the
toughest division in the National Football League.

Speaker 3 (01:45:51):
I think that's changed.

Speaker 2 (01:45:52):
I think things have moved out to the NFC North
with Detroit, Minnesota, Green.

Speaker 3 (01:45:56):
Bay, and Chicago. Do you agree. I think that may
be the toughest division of football now.

Speaker 4 (01:46:01):
Look, it's going to be really, really tough. It is
going to be.

Speaker 5 (01:46:05):
A challenging division because you think about the Detroit Lions
maybe coming back to the pack, but Minnesota, Green Bay,
and Chicago all improving at least on paper. Yeah, it
should be fun to watch. It's always been competitive within
the division. The Robberies run deep in that division. So yeah,
I look, I like it. I like where it's going,
and I'm looking looking forward to seeing how it plays

(01:46:27):
out this year.

Speaker 3 (01:46:28):
Okay, I want to stay in the division.

Speaker 2 (01:46:29):
I want to stay in the AFC, and I'm going
to move away from Pittsburgh because I think the fact
that the Omar Khan, the Khan man right there, the
fact that he's resigned. TJ Watt, don't worry, Stealer fans, TJ.
Watch the steel There's no doubt about that.

Speaker 3 (01:46:43):
We moved to.

Speaker 2 (01:46:43):
Well, let's go to the Baltimore Ravens for a second,
because I'm going to throw out these terms and which
one should stick smart, cocky, arrogant or truthful.

Speaker 3 (01:46:53):
Take your pick.

Speaker 2 (01:46:55):
Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson he said the other day the
game has gotten a lot easier.

Speaker 3 (01:47:00):
Why would he say that?

Speaker 2 (01:47:01):
I mean, really, I mean I sometimes these guys talk
for the sake of talking. They want their name outter.
I love Lamar, I loved them when he was at Louisville.
I love everything he's done. As a matter of fact,
he's probably done more than any other quarterback in NFL
history except winning the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (01:47:18):
Think about that.

Speaker 2 (01:47:18):
He's done everything and anything, rush for more yardage. Now
he's become a passer. He's got two MVP Awards under
his belt. He's done at all except winning a super Bowl.
But you don't need to talk, and they'll need to
say things like that. And he was on that. I
think it was with Kevin Hart on an interview Coldest
Balls it was, and that was what's called coldest Balls

(01:47:40):
with Kevin Art. He said that they're getting close to
the super Bowl. Close is no cigar, for sure, but
he said the game's gotten a lot easier. How is
the game gotten easier? Bucket Brooks tell me, I would
think the older you get, it gets harder because.

Speaker 3 (01:47:53):
You're hurting more, there's more injuries, you're slowing down a
little bit. I don't get it.

Speaker 2 (01:47:58):
The only thing I can think of is the fact
that the rules for quarterbacks, you can't.

Speaker 3 (01:48:01):
Even touch a quarterback anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:48:02):
You know, the quarterbacks back in the day got they
got beat up a lot more than quarterbacks today.

Speaker 5 (01:48:09):
I think the reason why it's gotten easier for Lamar
is because experience brings a level of expertise.

Speaker 4 (01:48:16):
The longer you play, the more the.

Speaker 5 (01:48:18):
Game slows down, and as the game slows down, it's
easier to have.

Speaker 4 (01:48:27):
Consistent success. And what Lamar Jackson has.

Speaker 5 (01:48:30):
Seen, the game slowed down, so now it's almost a
level of mastery. I understand what I'm doing, I understand
what the opponent is doing. So now I'm free, and
now I'm free to play without clutter, which allows me
to be the best version of myself.

Speaker 4 (01:48:43):
That's why he's saying the game has gotten easy.

Speaker 5 (01:48:45):
Every time you play a game, you learn something, and
because you're learning now, you're tapping into the ability to
tell them to take.

Speaker 4 (01:48:54):
It up a notch. That's why. That's why, that's why
it works, That's why it's easy for him.

Speaker 2 (01:49:00):
Well, I would say this if I'm a defensive coordinator
and I read that and hear that, I'm a little worried. Okay,
because last year he had perhaps the best year of
his career. He threw for four thousand yards for the
first time last year ever, and he threw for a
career high forty one touchdowns. He had one hell of
a year. And here's a guy that you know, you

(01:49:20):
may not like the Buldeo Ravens, you may not even
like Lamar Jackson. You got a root for the guy.
You love to see him. We're in a super Bowl.
I mean, he's done everything, but when the super Bowl,
you love to see him win it. You know what,
I want to see him win the super Bowl. I
think he deserves to. I mean, this guy has done
everything and anything, you know, except when the super Bowl.
And to some extent, I hate to say it, I

(01:49:40):
don't think it's fair. Life isn't fair, but I'm saying it.
I don't think it's fair.

Speaker 4 (01:49:46):
I mean, look, it is never fair.

Speaker 5 (01:49:48):
But like the hard days bring you about the celebration
when you really make it happen.

Speaker 4 (01:49:52):
So I am.

Speaker 5 (01:49:54):
Excited to see how it all plays out. I think
the pressure is a privilege. You want to be in
meaningful moments and meaningful games that have huge, insignificant consequences.
It makes sense to me to want to be a
part of those things.

Speaker 2 (01:50:09):
Well, the only thing that kind of haunts this guy,
is that the Ravens were like three and five in
playoff games something like that. I mean again, I mean
that's the rub on Lamar Jackson. I mean they just
say he you know, he's a great runner. There's no
doubt about that. He's an electrifying runner. But the point
is that when he gets to these big games, they
say he can't play under the big lights, even when

(01:50:30):
he would play on Monday night football. These announceers with
the mean I get it, everybody needs a storyline, but
to kind of focus on those things after what he
has accomplished in his career, he's a Hall of famer.
You know, if you were to retire now, he's in
the Hall of Fame. There's no doubt in my mind,
without the ring, without the Super Bowl. I mean, you know,

(01:50:51):
like you said just before, we're a ring society. You know,
believe me, you could be a great player and not
win a ring. In the minds of many that it's
not true, but you can. You know, you don't have
to win a ring to go to the Hall of Fame.
I mean, to me, the only reason Eli Manning may
go to the Hall of Fame is because he won
a ring. I don't think he's a Hall of Famer,

(01:51:11):
but he wanted he won two Super Bowls. He's gonna
go right, That's that's the connection for him.

Speaker 4 (01:51:18):
Yeah, I mean that that is a connection.

Speaker 5 (01:51:19):
That's one of the things that we'll talk about it,
like with Eli, because some will talk about Eli having
a better career than say a Philip Rivers because he
won more rings.

Speaker 4 (01:51:30):
But that might be debatable, but it is.

Speaker 5 (01:51:35):
Kind of how we judge players, particularly quarterbacks. We judged
them on rings and wins and how often they win
and the level with which they win. You know, That's
that's what we do in a debatable society in terms
of like we love debates. Rings give us something that
we can quantify because it says that you're the ultimate winner.

Speaker 4 (01:51:59):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:52:00):
I hate to do this because we started the show
off today talking about gambling and some of the athletes
in the NBA and MLB getting in trouble, but you
know it's out there. So I'm going to say it
that the odds makers seem to agree with Jackson about
going to the Super Bowl, because Baltimore is currently tied
with Buffalo for the best odds to win Super Bowl LX,

(01:52:21):
which I think is sixty because L is fifty and
HEX is ten, so it's got to.

Speaker 4 (01:52:25):
Be sixty, right, That's what it was. Sixty.

Speaker 3 (01:52:28):
Remember that.

Speaker 2 (01:52:28):
I think we learned that in fifth grade at PS
win twenty eight. We go so the Ravens and the
Eagles and the Ravens that bills a plus seven hundred
win to win the Super Bowl. So that would be
a night Look again, it would be a cap on
a career that's been a tremendous career and I don't
think a lot of people expected Lamar Jackson to accomplish

(01:52:49):
what he's accomplished. I'm going to say this right now,
and I may be way way out of place by
saying it, and I know you, I think you'll agree
with me. If Lamar Jackson was drafted fifteen years ago,
try to convert him into a cornerback.

Speaker 5 (01:53:03):
I mean they're talking about converting him to wide receiver
when he was drafted. So yeah, yeah, regardless of whether
it's fifteen years ago, ten years ago, there's always gonna
be that conversation. Well, Lamar Jackson has done is he's
proven that they say is wrong by playing well when
he had his opportunity. That's all you can do. Like,
it doesn't matter what the outsiders say. You ultimately control

(01:53:26):
the narrative by the way that you perform and the
way that you prepare. If you perform, if you prepare
the right way, your performance.

Speaker 4 (01:53:31):
Is gonna speak for yourself. And that's what he's been
able to do. Right.

Speaker 2 (01:53:35):
Okay, Let's talk about not Lamar Jackson as much. Let's
talk about the Baltimore Ravens because let's see what they
have gone for them, because they have been something like
twenty five and nine while winning the.

Speaker 3 (01:53:49):
AFC North the last two years.

Speaker 2 (01:53:51):
All right, but I think the problem and Lamar he's
not going to talk about it. They got a lot
of veterans, but they are thirty plus. No, I don't
think thirty is old, but maybe in the NFL it
is it. Derrick Henry, Ronnie Stanley, Kyle van Ney. These
guys are old guys. I mean, it's that going to
work against him to possibly get to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (01:54:13):
Yeah, I mean it's tough.

Speaker 5 (01:54:14):
Is one and done because they're not gonna be able
to count on the same lineup to do it over time.
They gotta get it done this year with their crew.
Then they're gonna have to reset.

Speaker 2 (01:54:22):
Well, we'll see what happens. I wish him will, but
that's okay. Lamar Jackson. Two people that I love today, well,
besides Bucky Brooks and ld you know little Dumper, I
love Sophie Cunningham.

Speaker 3 (01:54:32):
And Lamar Judson.

Speaker 4 (01:54:32):
There we go.

Speaker 3 (01:54:33):
All right, let's get it going.

Speaker 2 (01:54:35):
It's Bucky Brooks, It's Andy Firman, It's Fox Sports SONNYA,
Fox Sports Radio. It's time to let it rip. The
playing game is freaking next. All right, there's no holding
back on this game, and it's coming right up.

Speaker 4 (01:54:47):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:54:47):
He's Bucky Brooks, I'm Andy Firmer. We are Fox Sports SONNYA,
Fox Sports Radio. We're live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.
And before we get into it, at the top of
the hour, which is like twelve minutes from now, that's
nine am on the East Coast, countdown, Ryan O, Jeff Schwartz, I,
Bill Kracklenberger stay here, I'll Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (01:55:05):
But right now it's time for the.

Speaker 4 (01:55:06):
Play game with me.

Speaker 1 (01:55:08):
It's all your fault. No, it's your fault?

Speaker 3 (01:55:11):
Is it all your fault?

Speaker 1 (01:55:16):
Maybe it's everyone's faults. She's a liar. That's why there's
the blame gate, the blame game. Let's figure out who
to blame.

Speaker 3 (01:55:24):
Oh yeah, he's a liar. Let's go to ld little dumper.
What do you got? All right?

Speaker 9 (01:55:28):
So I got one for us. So earlier in the week,
the Miami Dolphins not only did they do one, but
they did two trades. The first one was with the
Steelers where they gave you know, John Us Smith and
Jalen Ramsey. They got back Minka uh and some picks
and all that good stuff. So that was one that
was like, okay, kind of question. Well, then they do

(01:55:48):
another one with the Giants and they traded some picks
and stuff to go get rich hired tight end Darren Waller,
who now unretired. Who are you blamed for in my
amy for all this nonsense, Andy firm?

Speaker 1 (01:56:03):
You go first blame.

Speaker 2 (01:56:04):
I blame the Williams sisters because they're Paul owners of
the Dolphins. They probably approved that. They probably had no
idea who Darren Wooler is really, So I blame the
Williams systems really at the they out of football.

Speaker 5 (01:56:16):
I blame might be Daniels in the organization because what
they're trying to do is they're trying to change the
culture in the locker room. And so some of the
guys that we removed were guys that might have been
culture disruptors.

Speaker 4 (01:56:26):
So they moved them out. And even though it was
against popular.

Speaker 5 (01:56:28):
Opinion, they're trying to make the team better by having
guys that are more cohesive.

Speaker 4 (01:56:32):
Uh in the locker room.

Speaker 3 (01:56:34):
Oh well, you know, blame the Williams systems, Serena.

Speaker 4 (01:56:38):
Uh No, I'm not gonna blame Genis. I blame you
Andy for that.

Speaker 3 (01:56:43):
Serena just didn't like the guy. Maybe that's why.

Speaker 9 (01:56:47):
Well, perhaps, but perhaps another time. Next though, we got
Guardians Pitcher. Luis Ortiz is the subject of a gambling investigation.

Speaker 3 (01:56:56):
How does this happen? And who do you blame?

Speaker 4 (01:56:59):
Bucky? Look, man, I blame the changing times.

Speaker 5 (01:57:02):
When the leagues decided to partner up with the gambling
entities like this was ultimately going to make his way
down to the players, and so look, we can blame
the individual players, but the league got in bid with
these gambling entities, which is why we're seeing more incidents
like this.

Speaker 2 (01:57:15):
Well, look, if that's the case, I blame more people.
I'll blame this Ortiz because he's an idiot. Okay, he
has no self control, he's a moron. And the fact
that the matter is he should be thrown out of baseball.

Speaker 3 (01:57:26):
Throw him out. It's his fault, he did it. Blame him,
throw him out, all right?

Speaker 9 (01:57:32):
Well, next guys, the Jets have the longest playoff drought
in pro sports.

Speaker 3 (01:57:37):
Who do you blame?

Speaker 1 (01:57:38):
Andy?

Speaker 2 (01:57:39):
You gotta blame Woody Johnson. He's the constant, he owns
the team. And stop making the band aid and start
working about your football team. Really, Johnson and Johnson terrible.
It's embarrassing.

Speaker 4 (01:57:50):
I mean, look, it is embarrassing.

Speaker 5 (01:57:52):
Woody Johnson certainly has a big part of it because
he says the culture from the top down. But there's
so many people to blame, from general managers to here
coaches to players.

Speaker 4 (01:58:01):
Everyone into just building is to play bump.

Speaker 9 (01:58:05):
Yes, yes, well we're gonna go from a bomb to
someone who is definitely not a bum.

Speaker 4 (01:58:12):
Here.

Speaker 9 (01:58:12):
The salary for OKCS MVP thunder Shay Gelgas Alexander is
a record seventy one mil for four years. That's pretty
much eight what is that? Eight hundred and sixty eight
thousand per game? Who do you who blame Bucky Brooks.

Speaker 5 (01:58:31):
Well, look, I blamed this new CBA. They created opportunities
for those players to get paid. So I'm not mad
at it. He earned it, he deserves it, So give
him his bread.

Speaker 4 (01:58:41):
I'm arcade with it.

Speaker 3 (01:58:42):
Show him the money.

Speaker 2 (01:58:44):
But you know what, though this doesn't bode well for
the league and for fans. Look, I think everybody in
life should get as much as they can get. You know,
there's a garbage strike now in Philadelphia. Give the garbage
guys more money they disarve. It's no problem with people
making more money. I just don't think it's fair for
athletes to have their salaries spread all over the place.

(01:59:07):
I don't know what the people at Fox Sports ready
he'll make, and I don't really care.

Speaker 3 (01:59:10):
Sone of my business.

Speaker 2 (01:59:11):
I don't think there's anybody's business what SGA makes, that's
all my thing. My take on that he's gonna make
eight hundred and sixty eight thousand plus a game a game,
all right, God bless him. Really, you know, if that's
what he's gonna make, fine, I don't think we should
have to know what he makes.

Speaker 3 (01:59:26):
Do you agree Buck on that? I don't think he
should be public.

Speaker 4 (01:59:29):
I mean, I don't really care if it's public or not.

Speaker 5 (01:59:31):
Like that's what they were going to have to pay
him when he got all the accolades.

Speaker 4 (01:59:34):
Anyone at CHIP gotta pay the man, all right.

Speaker 9 (01:59:38):
Well, final blame here, guys, and Travis Kelcey hinds at
a broadcast career after the NFL. Is that fair to
prospective media students looking for the same career? Who do
you blame on that one, Bucky Well?

Speaker 5 (01:59:53):
I mean, I just blamed the changing dynamics when it
comes to media, Like, journalism is in a weird spot.
Hopefully we can figure it out. Everyone continues to respect
the people that are doing it. But yeah, Travis Kelsey
has an opinion he's okay with.

Speaker 3 (02:00:05):
Well, it's his opinion of this.

Speaker 2 (02:00:07):
If I was a journalism student or a mass communications
major right now, I would try out for the football
team because I have a better chance of getting a
job than just being a major in communications.

Speaker 3 (02:00:16):
And I'd go to Jersey.

Speaker 2 (02:00:17):
Every day, put my name on the back, and go
to the football coach and say, coach, here's the deal.
Put me on the team. I don't care if I
ever play, but just say I was on the roster.
This way I could say I played the game and
I get a shot at getting a job. Here we go,
all right, Bucky, have a great week. I love you guys,
actually working with you. Count Down his next day with
us right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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