Jonas Knox talks Lloyd Howell, Jim Gray & Keith Thurman stop by!

Jonas Knox talks about the resignation of the NFLPA's Lloyd Howell in the midst of the collusion story between the NFL and the NFLPA, sports icon Jim Gray joins the show, Keith "One-Time" Thurman stops by, and more!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I have to stop. Jonas Knocks. You thought you knew me.
You didn't know a thing about me.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
He's crazier than else. Wrapped that guy, Jonas Knocks.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
You heard me, the friends, some darkness is lighting up
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Live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Here's Jonas Knox.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
So okay, I'm in port. You know, sometimes things just
line up exactly how they need to. They line up perfectly.

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And just think if somebody was better at keeping a secret,
maybe we wouldn't have all these issues in the NFL.
We'll get into that for you coming up here in
just a couple of moments from now, Jonas Knocks Fox Sports.
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It is a special show here, and it's a special
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Law the site of Paqio Barrios coming up later on tonight.
That's right, Many Pakiao and Mario Barrios will be competing
for a world title later on tonight. Here from the

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MGM brand. The fans are out, the buzz is in
the air. Everybody's fired up for the return of one
of the all time greats in Many Pacio. We've got
plenty on that that we are going to get to,
but we must start with the story that just keeps
on giving. And you know what's great about this is
sometimes things just line up exactly how they need to

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line up, you know, Like we're in here, We're in
Vegas and a lot of people look at Vegas make
go Well, that's where you go if you want debauchery,
all right, a little something for everybody you walk down
the strip. Last night, I got a guy trying to
hand me a placard. I'm thinking he's giving me a
couple bucks. You look down and go, oh, she comes
to your room for how much? YEA, I'm gonna go
ahead and pass because I like stand married. But you

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know what's great about this is that certain people like
to enter into that world, even in the professional setting,
and this is one of my favorite details to come
out of a story in the NFL in a long time,
and it's perfect that we're in Vegas for it. So

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when former NFLPA executive director Lloyd Howell stepped down a
few days ago, just figured, okay, hey, listen, this is
just your run of the mill. Hey, upon further review,
conflict of interest, Okay, we got a conflict of interest. He's,
you know, working with a private equity firm that's working

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with NFL O owners. A little bit of a conflict
of interest, if you will. And so when you see
that story come out and you go, all right, so
maybe that's what it is. Nah, No, that's not okay. Well,
maybe it's because he waited so long to appeal the
collusion evidence from the owners and that little meeting they

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had back in January. Maybe it's maybe it's that whole thing,
you know, Maybe it's maybe that's got something to do
with it. Nah nah, not really. You know what a
This is why Lloyd House stepped down. This is why
figured it out. He was trying to avoid any more
scrutiny and taken away from the greater cause for players.

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That's important. You got to keep your mind on the prize.
You got to keep your eyes on the prize. You
need to look out for the greater good of all
these players. That's why Lloyd House stepped down. No, all right,
so let's just see what's behind number four here. Let's
open up the envelope, and number four how stepped down

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as executive director of the NFLPA because of strip clubs.
That's right, everybody, congratulations, that is correct. Strip clubs for
Lloyd Howe. And if you want the details on that,
don't worry about it. We got them. An outside investigator
hired by the union found that Lloyd Howell charged the

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union for strip club visits that according to ESPN, not
making this up. Not making this up, strip club visits.
Here are some of the details. How about twenty twenty
three when Lloyd Howe was picked up at the airport
in Fort Lauderdale by a car service and went straight

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to a place called Tootsi's Cabaret for eight hours. Now,
I'm just gonna ask you a question. What do you
do at Tutsi's cabaret for eight hours? All right? I
don't even sleep eight hours. Lloyd Howe got straight off
the plane and decided, you know what, I gotta go
stare at some ass. That's what I gotta do. I

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gotta stare it. And the best part is I'm gonna
expense it to the PA. Okay, listen, one time issue?
What are we? What are we judging for? Like we're
in Vegas right now? We are I gonna sit here
in judgment and then you find out that, well, we
got a problem because in February when he probably could

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have been appealing that ruling that came out that showed
collusion by the owners. In February when he could have
done that instead, Lloyd Howe was he was at a
player summit in Atlanta, and according to ESPN, during this
year's NFL PA Player Summit on February twenty first, Lloyd

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Howl accompanied the employees to the Magic City Strip Club
for an outing that incurred that's over two thousand, some
four hundred dollars in charges, including cash withdrawals ranging from
two hundred dollars to five hundred and twenty five dollars. Now,
I ask you again, what are you taking money out
at a strip club for? All right, especially in Magic City?

Speaker 4 (06:13):
All right?

Speaker 1 (06:14):
What are you doing that for? I think we all know?
And again the document showed it. They used two VIP rooms. Again,
what do you need of Vietna? You know what it is?
Maybe Lloyd how needed better Wi Fi in those VIP
rooms and maybe the WiFi is a little bit more
expensive at Magic City, So that's why he decided, you
know what, I got to go on that little private

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VIP room. But according to this expense report, the purpose
of the strip club outing was quote player engagement event
to support and grow our union. And I got news
for you. If you go to those two places, something's
growing for sure. For sure, I'm not sure if it's
the union.

Speaker 5 (06:51):
No.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
The best part about all this is that Lloyd how
had this stuff in his past. There was issues about
this him expensing strip club visits to a previous employer
in twenty fifteen, and you're probably looking at it and going, well, jeez,
why is all this stuff coming out on Lloyd Howe. Well,
you know why. It's what Chris Carter told us at

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the Rookie Symposium year ago, years ago. You need a
fall guy, and Lloyd Howe is the fall guy. And
this is also the players union can save face and
they can have that fall guy for all the scrutiny
that they've gotten. It's a good jo I've got a crew.

Speaker 4 (07:33):
You've got to have a fall guy.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
That's a great point, Chris. And all these years later,
now it makes sense. So all of a sudden, you've
got all this information about Lloyd Howe going to strip clubs. Man,
this guy gets off a plane in Fort Lauderdale, and
the dude just can't help himself. He can't help himself.
He's like, I got two choices here. I either get
off this plane and I go to a practice and
look like the charger security guard shuffling my skin car

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cards on the sidelines while some people are waving palm poms.
Or I could just go to Tutsi's cabaret. I got
to get this out of me. And you're hearing all
this information and seeing all these details come out, and
then you look around and I asked the question that
I asked when reports about the NFLPA and this collusion
and all that stuff started to surface. I asked this question,

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then I will ask it now. And you wonder why
the NFLPA loses every single negotiation with the owners every
time around? Do you wonder why it's stuff like this
and we would have never known. That's the best part
about this. The players would have never known. I mean,

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the once at the Strip Club would. I mean, the
people at Tutsies probably would. I mean, I mean that's
a night to remember. I mean, you know, Magic City
and listen, if you believe Rob Parker, Magic City is
a phenomenal place. Rob Parker claims to put a lot
of people through college there. Again, I don't know. That
feels like a reckless claim, same mouth. But you see

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these details come out and you go, oh my god,
it's even worse than we thought. D'morris Smith in twenty seventeen,
and again this all comes back around and sometimes everything
works out perfectly. I can remember being here in Las
Vegas in twenty seventeen. It was for the Mayweather McGregor fight.

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I'm working alongside the great Tom Looney, and I can
remember sitting there having a conversation with Mark Schlaith, and
Schlareth told us because the topic of conversation at that
time was that Demorris Smith came out as the NFLPA
president and said, you know what, we're going to get
changed down. We're going to get this done. We're going
to get that done. The next time this stuff comes around,

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we got it covered. And Mark Shlareth called us bluff
and basically told us, oh, hey, dude, like no, no,
you're not. What are you going to settle? And settle
for padded practices? Players can smoke weed again for an
extended period of time when you see all of that

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lead into all of this, and every day new details,
new details, new details, and you're asking yourself as a player, man,
these are the people that we trust to represent us
to try and get deals done, to try and get
what's done for the betterment of our lives, our future
in the sport them. But they told us, hey, we

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vetted Lloyd how we vetted him? Like, so, I would
like to say this in conclusion as an apology to
the NFLPA. You are correct his you know, conflict of
interest with a private equity firm working with the owners.

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You're right, you vetted that. That's not what the concern is.
The concern is the guy walking into Tutsie's cabaret after
a flight in Fort Lauderdale and spending eight hours there,
only to follow that up after this collusion hearing that
you had a couple of weeks later, when he should
have been appealing everything. Going to Magic City and taking

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out eight hundred dollars from a club ATM Now, maybe
it's cash only there. I mean, maybe he was getting
something to eat. Bottom line is this whole thing was
a circus. This whole thing is a clown show, and
it's another example further proof of why the NFLPA can't
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Jonas Knox, Fox Sports Radio Live on location in Las
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Pakiao Pakiao Barrios coming up later on tonight. We have
got a ton on that throughout the course of this show,
and we have got a very special guest who is

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going to be joining us now by the way, coming
up by later on this hour. We'll call it a
little over twenty minutes from now, we are going to
have another edition of Do You Care? And I can
assure you one of these stories in Do You Care
is probably going to piss a good amount of people off.
I can assure you that that'll be yours here again
a little over twenty minutes from now. But right now
we welcome in a Hall of Famer, inducted into the

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International Boxing Hall of Fame. You have seen him your
entire sports viewing life. He is the one and only
Jim Gray who is live with us here on location.
Jim Gray with us here on Fox Sports Radio. The
buzz is starting to pick up, the noises is starting
to pick up. People are arriving, getting ready for this

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big fight. Coming up later on tonight, But first, Jim,
is am I allowed to call you sports talk or
sports viewership sports TV royalty? Are you allowed to be
called royalty at this point in your career? That's not
you know, that's not necessary. Well, I mean listen, I
think everybody hears the voice. I mean everybody here is
Jim Gray, and they go, oh, I know him, like

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you've got that's very nice. Yeah, And obviously International Boxing
Hall of Famer Jim Gray, and I just I want
to ask you, obviously, congratulations on an incredible run, incredible career.
Why do you think you've been able to do this
at as high of a level as you've done it
for as long as you've done it?

Speaker 7 (15:24):
You know, that's kind of hard for me to assess,
But I just think that, you know, I've just tried
to ascertain information and let the public hear it and
let them see what goes on and ask the questions
that we're all curious about. I mean, I'm just watching
the game like you're watching the game like all of us,
and you know, it's just they've just been normal, They've

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just been average, Like this is just what it is
that was in front of us, so let's ask the
folks about it. Never in a way other than to
ascertain information and to enlighten and to let people again
and see what's gone on and find out why, find
out what, find out how.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
And so I think I think that it just kind of.

Speaker 7 (16:09):
You know, that enables you to have longevity, and you know, it's.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
I've been fortunate. I've been lucky.

Speaker 7 (16:16):
I've had good bosses I've had I've had people who've
trusted me, and that's that's part of it too, you know,
you earn the trust of what it is you're doing.
And I grew up Jonas in an era where you
weren't trying to make a headline or have a hot take.
You were trying to get that information and the relationship mattered.
So my career has been based on relationships from the

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first interview I did with Muhammad Ali and he then
let me do the last interview some thirty something years
later of his career. So the relationship with whoever it
has been has always been. I knew Kobe Bryant since
two weeks after he was born, so you know, until
unfortunately when he passed away. But it was more important

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to me that we continued that relationship and had a
rapport and when he was asked, he was asked, when
I went into the Boxing Hall of Fame, how would
you describe Jim Gray?

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Give me one word? He said, honest.

Speaker 7 (17:15):
Well, that still touches me in a way, because that's
what I've tried to do is just be honest. Be
honest with the people I've dealt with, be honest the
people I've worked for, and be honest with the public.
And you shouldn't be congratulated for that. That should just
be normal. That should just be what it is. But
you know, it does touch me in a way that
that's how he felt. And perhaps that's an answer to
your question. Obviously you love it, otherwise you wouldn't be

(17:38):
doing it as long as you've done it. And you know,
some people will say, you know, why do you do
what you do what you do because you love it?

Speaker 1 (17:44):
Where did that love start? Where was the point where
you said, oh, that right there, I'm doing that.

Speaker 7 (17:49):
I never had a plan. I never had a plan.
I love sports from the time I grew you know,
from I can remember. I love throwing the ball with
my dad. I love going to the games with him.
I loved hanging out in the neighborhood and playing wiffle
ball and baseball and football, and then I was tennis.
I played tennis, and I was a city champion in
Denver for tennis for a few years, and then at

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my high school we won the city championship.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
So you know, it was just.

Speaker 7 (18:16):
Kind of something that I always loved. And then I
became a video tape editor. When they were converting from
film to videotape, Jonas all the guys took all the
guys who were older, the film guys at the union guys,
they took the buy out, so a bunch of young
kids got to be able to be videotape editors. And
so I was a videotape editor. One day I was
sitting in my booth for the ABC station in Denver,

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and they came in and said, you were the sports
intern and you edded all the sports video tape. I said, yeah,
So seven o'clock in the morning, he says, Mahmaed Ali's
two and a half hours early at the airport. We
can't find anybody go interview. And while I was dressed
like this, I certainly wasn't dressed in a fashion to
go greet Muhammad Ali and I had never done an interview,
never done one interview. So I went out there and

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interviewed Muhammad Ali. He was getting ready to fight Leon Spinks,
and then after that he was going to fight Lyle Alzado,
who was a Denver Bronco became a Raider, was a
very famous defensive end number seventy seven, and he was
going to have an exhibition against him in my eye stadium.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
So I did the interview Ali.

Speaker 7 (19:13):
When I walked in and sat down, he said, you're
doing this interview you don't even shave, and he was right,
but that made me laugh, like you laugh, and it
just broke the ice and the whole entourage twenty five
people there. Third or fourth question, he said, you sound
like the local Howard Cosell, and I thought, wow, what
a compliment, because I've been watching Howard Cosell my whole life,
and I'm thinking that guy's great.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
I love Howard Cosell.

Speaker 7 (19:34):
It was a love hate relationship with Howard Cosell, and
I loved him, and so took the interview back. Make
a long story short, and the guy who ran the bureau,
man named Roger Ogden, was my boss, he didn't even
know my name, came in and he watched that videotape
for an hour and a half, watched the forty five
minutes that Ali gave me. Twice, he got up and
he stood up and he looked at me and he said, Jim,

(19:55):
you and this interview are going on the air. It's
barely adequate. So I tell everybody I've been barely adequate
ever since.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Well, look the great Jim Gray joining us here on
Fox Sports Radio, Jonas Knox with you. I don't know
that people understand how difficult it is to do this
for as long as you have at as high a
level as you've had, because look, man, you know, less
than a year into my first opportunity, I got laid off.
Like there are so many changes that happen. It's such

(20:24):
the broadcast business is always in flux, even to this day.
And so if you go back and you talk about,
you know, all the interviews you've done, all the greats
that you've been in the ring with, or on the
court with, or on the field with, do you go
back to a moment to where you say, when I
decide on my terms, I'm good here. That's the one
I think about most fondly. No, I don't have that yet.

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I don't. I don't have that that moment.

Speaker 7 (20:49):
I mean, I've had several moments that I'm really proud of,
and several moments that have been really you know, satisfying
and unique, but they've all been great. Like I'm looking
forward to talking to Manny Pack. Yeah, what happens if
he pulls this? Okay, I had forty six? When's the
title after he gets into the Hall of Fame after
he hasn't fought for four years.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
So it's still exciting to me. I still enjoy it.

Speaker 7 (21:07):
I mean, I still like doing my show with Brady
and Belichick and Max Crosby and Peter King and so forth.
So No, it's still fun. I still like coming to
these fights. I still like, you know, going to games.
I've always loved going to the arena and seeing the
games and talking to people, and it's given me every
opportunity that I've had in my life. So I haven't
looked to say that this is the end, because I

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still look at myself like that seventeen year old that
was in wonderment of going to talk to Muhammad Ali.
I'm still feeling like, I'm lucky. I get to do
this because I'm talking for a living. I'm talking for
a living. And Steedman, Graham and Oprah gave me the
best advice that I'd ever heard, Jim Gray. They're paying
you to talk. Just keep talking, Just keep talking. I

(21:51):
could be building bridges or paving roads, or selling telephones
or doing all kinds of stuff. But I get to talk,
and I get to ask people questions, and so that's
pretty good, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
I mean, he doesn't get much better than that. I mean,
you mentioned manupac Yo obviously fighting Barrios coming up later
on at this age, coming out retirement, hasn't fought since
twenty twenty one, the career that he's had. What has
impressed you most about manipac Yaw not just the fighter,
but the man, the person you've interviewed as many times as.

Speaker 7 (22:21):
You have, that he's so great with people, that he
held public office, that somebody wants something from him every
second of his life, every minute, every hour, every day,
so on and so forth. Somebody wants something from him
all the time, and he seemingly has taken care of
a whole lot of folks, and he's left himself for
good for future generations. So I admire the person and

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the way that he behaves, at least the public side
that we get to see. You know, I don't know
him well, so I don't know the private side. I'm
only in this company when I'm interviewing him, or at
a fight, or you know, perhaps at a production meeting
or something of this nature. But I'm just I think
it's hard to share your life with the world, and

(23:05):
that's what he's done. And think about his family and
what they have to go through, and you know, when
nothing is ever private. And all of this changed, obviously
with the advent of the iPhone sixteen seventeen years ago,
in the cell phones and so forth, everybody's walking around
with cameras and videotape machines and every place we walk in.
We're in a room right here, there's probably eighteen sets

(23:26):
of hammeras in this room that we can't see, or
even if we do see it, that is probably zoomed
right in on us and possibly can hear it. So
your whole life now is dissected moment to moment, and
I just think that it's really I think it's really
a difficult circumstance. To have to live like that all
the time. It's not easy. And so I admire when

(23:49):
I see people in public who never ever snap, who
never have bad public moments. Michael Jordan was like that,
Have you ever seen Michael Jordan have a bad public moment?

Speaker 8 (24:00):
Now?

Speaker 7 (24:00):
Yeah, now you think remarkable, isn't it. Now you think
about it, it's remarkable. He navigated those waters nicely, he
was and it was great. And that's why we all
feel so great about him. You know what we left
what he did on the court. We loved what we
saw away from the court. He patted every kid on
the head, he took the picture, he did whatever it
was that we saw. And so that's what I admire

(24:24):
about Manny. And I don't think that's an easy life.
In fact, I know that's a difficult life. Being close
to a number of great athletes. It's not easy. It's
very difficult, and it's very hard for the families.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Jim Gray joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, Jonas
Knox with you, So tell me about the Hall of Excellence,
because I'm watching the Dan Patrick Show about four weeks ago.
I've heard on many of these Fox Sports Radio affiliates,
and I'm hearing you say that you've got John Madden's
last plane ticket. That's correct. Okay, hold on, how does

(24:56):
one get a hold of John Madden's last plane ticket. Well,
in this instance, I called Mike Madden, and Mike Madden
is John's son who's a good friend of mine.

Speaker 7 (25:06):
And I lived with John Madden. I lived at John
Madden's home in the Dakota for many years in the
eighties and nineties, when John was riding around on the
train and the bus, and we were good friends. And
I took my first job at NBC. I left ESPN
and was going to the network at NBC. And when
I got to take the job, they wanted me to

(25:29):
relocate in New York and I lived in Los Angeles.
So I was playing golf with Madden one day and
he said, here, great, just stay in my apartment at
the Dakota. So I was like the guy who came
for dinner and never left. I was there forever. And
so I got to know John really well. Love John,
love his family, loved the raiders and everything, and he
was just a great influence on my life. We had

(25:51):
so much fun. We spent a lot of meals and
a lot of time traveled on the bus. So when
we got the Hall of Excellence ready, and the Hall
of Excellence his name because of commitment to excellence and
because of my relationship with Al Davis, who wanted to
build his own Raiders museum and never got around to
it in his life. Perhaps Mark his terrific son will.

(26:12):
But I said to Al when he told me that
this is what he wanted to do, I said, you know,
you said commitment to excellence. Your museum should be the
Hall of Excellence. He said, Jimmy, that's a good idea.
So I took that name. All these years later and
Tom and I created this. But I called Mike Madden.
I said, Mike, I need something from your dad. He's
a big influence in my life, the greatest broadcaster ever.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
He created the Madden Game.

Speaker 7 (26:34):
He's one of the greatest coaches of all time, and
we need to have his own display case in our museum.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
What can you send?

Speaker 7 (26:42):
So Mike sent me some great artifacts from John's life,
and one of them was the last plane ticket from John.
I mean, for people that just understand, that was the
most amazing part about the whole collection, because it's because
you've got the Hall of Excellence and it's a world
class sports in the Entertainment Museum.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
It's at the Fountain Blue in Las Vegas. Here. It
opened to the public Friday, June twentieth. So you've got
Muhammad all these gloves, You've got Tom Brady's Super Bowl rings,
you got like all of these great pieces of memorabilia.
And then I hear you got Madden's last plane ticket,
and I'm thinking of myself, how does one get a

(27:20):
hold of that? So it does make sense obviously your
relationship with him. Piece of memorabilia. You look at it,
the Hall of Excellence that you're like, oh, I wouldn't
mind having that. Well, we do have it. That's why
I mean you personally, you personally something keep saying for
Jim Green.

Speaker 7 (27:36):
You know the things that the things that are closest
to me, and you know, like we have Jackie Robinson's
bat that broke the color barrier. Okay, that's a piece
of history, all right, Babe Ruth's called shot beat. This
our historical ideas that are part of the entire makeup
of Americana, Okay, that are that are that important? Billy

(27:57):
Jean King's dress for the Philadelphia Freedom. Okay, these are
things that can't be seen anyplace else that are now
being shared with the public.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
You know, you name it.

Speaker 7 (28:08):
We have a trophy that's almost everything that's competed for
in life, from Clint Eastwood's Academy Award for Unforgiven to
Oprah Winfrey's Medal of Freedom to Tom weiss Cooff's clart Jug.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
They're playing for the Claret Jug right now.

Speaker 7 (28:22):
We have Tom Weiscoff's to the Heisman Trophy of Charles
Woodson Fox, one of our colleagues at Fox and just
a great guy, former raider, former packer, Hall of Famer.
We have the Yankees nineteen ninety eight World Series Commissioner's
Trophy from their greatest season ever with their most wins ever.
So there's something in here for almost everybody. Bill Russell's

(28:44):
MVP Trophy, it's now the Bill Russell MVP Trophy, and
we have the original one, so he won eleven times,
and now they give that to the MVP of the finals.
So we can go on and on and on and
it's all there.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Just come see it. Yeah, yeah, everybody, just come see it.
Just come see for yourself.

Speaker 7 (29:03):
Yeah, all of excellence, and the Fountain Blue has been
a great partner. Jeffrey Sofer and everybody over there, they've
just been terrific. It's really been a pleasure, and it
took us eight years to get all of this and
put it all together. And uh, as far as boxing stuff,
so some of the great stuff in boxing history, Joe
Lewis's trunks and his shoes from his first title fight

(29:24):
that he won, Wow, and so all the way up
to Tyson's gloves and Muhammad Ali's final robe that he
prepared for for Trevor Burbick and his gloves against Evolio.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Is toughest fight.

Speaker 7 (29:34):
So there's there's a there's three hundred and twenty items
that are in there, and every single every single one
of them amazing, are of historic impact, amazing.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
Your career has been amazing. We appreciate your time. The
great Jim Gray joining us here on Fox Sports Radio.
Jonas Knox with you here on FSR, and we look
forward to the coverage and many Pakiao fighting yet again
later on tonight. We'll see if you can add to
his illustrious career. Thanks so much, thanks for having me,
really appreciate it.

Speaker 7 (30:01):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
Take care appreciate the great Jim Gray stopping by here
in Las Vegas. We are on site again for paqi
al Barrios coming up later on tonight here from the
MGM Grand We are going to have another edition of
Do You Care coming up here shortly as well too.
But from one broadcasting legend to another, the one and
only damn right, Sir, Isaac lowenkront I.

Speaker 9 (30:22):
Just got a press release Hall of Excellence. Latest piece
of memorabilia to be enshrined, Jonas Knox's microphone cover. Congratulations.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
Oh yeah, I thought you were going to say Lloyd
Howell's Strip club receipts.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Well, that's that's on the way.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
I mean, I thought we were going to go with
we we're going to go with that.

Speaker 4 (30:43):
Hey.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
By the way, Ilo, John Madden's last plane ticket. Of
all the random pieces of memorabilia you could ever have,
if you were to give me one hundred guesses, I
would have never have said that. But John the last
flight Madden never took the plane ticket to it at
the Hall of Excellence out here in Vegas. That's awesome.

Speaker 9 (31:00):
I gotta be honest, I would I would go just
to see that the last plane ticket, because I'm obsessed
with that whole Madden Cruiser. I probably shouldn't tell the story,
all right, if you ever talked to Wayne Gretzky. Apparently
Wayne Gretzky was the only person to ever do something

(31:25):
on the Madden Cruiser besides John Madden. John Madden had
a rule that all guests were not allowed to how
can I put put it this way, score a number
two on the Madden Cruiser and Wayne's off. Yeah, and
Wayne Gretzky was the only person besides John Madden whoever

(31:48):
on the Madden Cruiser, which I just think is perhaps
his most noted accomplishment ever.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
By the way, you know what's great about that? You
know Gretzky made it right in the hole two. You know,
liken't even like there was no docking of the boat,
there was no like, no splash. It was literally right
the five hole, right in the Madden Cruiser toilet. You
know that to be a fact. If it's not, we
just made it a fact here on the show.

Speaker 9 (32:11):
By the way, So in case you ever interview Wayne Gretzky,
I think that's a question he probably doesn't get very often.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
Hey, Wayne, did you take it dump on the Madden Cruiser,
Ischlow and crawler. Right, you're a real broadcast professional.

Speaker 9 (32:25):
Ilo, I'm telling you, I'll tell you you do research
on your interview subjects. Anyway, from right in the hole
as you put it to literally right in the hole
Round three at the Open Championship, and Scottie Scheffler continues
to be in command.

Speaker 4 (32:40):
Boll down.

Speaker 10 (32:41):
Scotty's giving it one final look from behind and steps
into it, grips it in the claw position, put it
back and through ball on the way.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
Paul just rams it into the back of the hole.
What a beautiful too for Scotty. Staffler extends the lead
to fall.

Speaker 9 (32:55):
So Scheffler four under through seventeen holes and round three
fourteen under par overall for the tournament. So he's got
a four shot lead over Lee how Tong. Right now, now,
jonas as we as we look at some of the
other people who are in contention, I have a theorem.
These British commentators really go extra nuts. I mean they

(33:18):
take it to another level. Whenever a UK golfer does
something good. That's my that's my theory. So I'm gonna
play you a shot made today by Rory mclory at
a great round He shot a five hunder sixty six
to pull to within six shots of the lead at
fourteen under par overall.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Listen, this is for eagle three.

Speaker 11 (33:37):
It's on its way.

Speaker 5 (33:38):
Come on, Rory, Come on, Rory, keep going, keep going,
keep going.

Speaker 4 (33:42):
Let's go.

Speaker 11 (33:42):
It's coming over the ridge. Go on and again and again.

Speaker 12 (33:45):
Yes, bounce back, Rory McElroy eagle on the twelve.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Your thoughts? Was that his dad on McColl You want
to hear some of it again?

Speaker 1 (33:59):
Yes, this is for eagle three.

Speaker 5 (34:01):
It's on its way. Come on, Rory, come on, Roy,
keep going, keep going, keep going.

Speaker 4 (34:05):
Let's go.

Speaker 11 (34:06):
It's coming over the ridge. Go on and again. I'm
again yes.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
But that's not all.

Speaker 9 (34:12):
So we've got another UK golfer, this unheralded guy, Yryl Hatton.
Now you ever heard of yl Hatton before? I just
brought his name up.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Now, any relation to Ricky Hatton? Since we're in Vegas.

Speaker 9 (34:26):
Here, I'm going to go out on a limb without
consulting the old family tree and say no. But he
played his way into contention as well. He is six
shots off the lead and here is him eagling the
seventh hole.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Listen to this.

Speaker 13 (34:40):
That is Oh, that's that's brilliant.

Speaker 14 (34:49):
A shot that's crazy. That is madness, but it's absolutely
brilliant from Terrel Hatson. Definitely, he says, all around now,
So Hatten thrust himself rut up into the freight.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Your thoughts again.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
Well, I mean the last part of that got a
little erotic.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
What do you mean by that?

Speaker 1 (35:10):
But though I just you know, thrusting is what that's
totally unnecessary. Nobody's ever used that on a golf course.

Speaker 13 (35:16):
But Hatten thrust himself rut up into the right again,
you know, like this all this is the theme of
the show.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Everything makes sense, It all lines up perfectly. So maybe
he was you know, maybe that was the guy the
DJ at Tutsi's cabaret when Lloyd Howe walked in.

Speaker 13 (35:32):
So Hatton thrusts himself rut up into the freight, everything
does come full circle.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
He was trying to say, how he said Hatton instead
easy mistake. But those are blatant homers and you could
even hear on the first one. You could see the
part where he kind of leans over, like really rooting
for it to get in. And I swear to God,
I do that with my son at golf and stuff.
I swear to God like, I'm like, oh that might
go in. This is ridiculous, because you gotta do something

(35:59):
about this. I though you're inspected broadcaster me, I mean
not after today's show, but you were respected broadcaster. You've
got to step up and tell some of these fanboys
to cut the craft.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
I'll get on it and have you an update for
you in the next hour.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
How's that milk for fair enough? All right? There, he
is the Great Isaac long Crown with us here on
Fox Sports Radio. It is Jonas Knox here live in
Las Vegas, here on Fox Sports Radio for Pacio Barrios
coming up later on tonight. Coming up next here though
on the show, we are going to tell you about
a storyline that you are being fed a whole lot

(36:32):
of this weekend in the world of sports, and I
couldn't care less about. Thus another edition of Do You Care?
Right here on FSR Jonas Knox Fox Sports Radio, we
are live in Las Vegas, the site of the return
of Many Pakia Pakiao Barrios coming up later on tonight
here from the MGM Grand We've got plenty more on that,

(36:53):
including a world champion who's gonna stop by coming up
a little over ten minutes from now here on FSR.
Before we get to another Do you Care, though, a
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(37:13):
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Speaker 3 (37:21):
There are so many stories in the world of sports,
and most of them are a complete waste of time
DMZ reports. Let's get kinky. Here's some of the big
stories from the last week. But Jonas, the real question
is do you care?

Speaker 1 (37:36):
And for that we turn it over to our executive
producer Bo Benzon to find out what the hell people
are making a fuss about this weekend.

Speaker 8 (37:42):
Bo Sabrina e ANDSQ one d WNBA All Star Weekends
three Point Shootout, avenging her loss to Steph Curry in
a way, I guess, Jonas, do you care?

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Oh God?

Speaker 13 (37:53):
No.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Oh, I care not anything WNBA related, especially All Star
Break WNBA related. And I hope this offense somebody I
couldn't give a rip about at all whatsoever. Won't watch,
don't care, not even worth discussing. And I got news
for you, anybody that takes offense to that. Listen, you
all complain about every other All Star game. Why can't

(38:14):
I do it with this one? Next?

Speaker 8 (38:15):
The Los Angeles Chargers unveiled new uniforms this week, bringing
back their dark blue jerseys that LT and others wore
and a bright yellow jersey that are now added to
their rotation. Jonas, do you care?

Speaker 1 (38:28):
Is it the so I'm trying to get a glimpse
of these? Is it the old one like the ones
from like say, the nineties, like the old the old throwbacks.

Speaker 8 (38:36):
Yeah, they're like the Harby or the dark blue.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
I care about this and this is important. I love
it here because listen, I've been saying it for the
longest time, the most overrated UNI in sports is the
Chargers powder blue. I don't get it. I don't know
why people like that. You've got these that you can
go back to. It's like, look, the Kelly green Eagles,
the Seahawks old uniforms, the Giants that have the giants

(39:02):
on the helmet, the old Jets, like, all of these
are so much better than the reincarnations of the Even
the Washington Commanders are going back to their old theme
kind of, not the actual name, but the actual design.
I just think this makes all the sense of the world.

Speaker 8 (39:16):
Next, Bradley Beal is officially a Los Angeles Clipper Jonas.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
Do care, I do care.

Speaker 4 (39:21):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
I do care because anything Clippers related needs to be
discussed when Bo Benson is on the air, because nobody
has done more to ridicule and bully a franchise in
what Bo Benson has done to the La Clippers. Are
you proud of yourself? Both?

Speaker 13 (39:34):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (39:35):
Okay. The funniest thing about this one, though, is that
even the biggest Clipper fan in the world, Manci Belogios,
she doesn't even like this move.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
I mean, and I gave her some love on the
air when I was filling in on the blowtorch AM
five seventy this week, I mentioned her as one of
the only like handful of Clipper fans that I knew,
alongside Adam Auslin and Ben Maller and Marcellus Wiley. She
gets a little bit of love, and I didn't hear
anything back from her.

Speaker 8 (39:59):
Next, the comedian Shane Gillis hosted this week's SP's Skewing Everyone.
In his opening monologue, jonas, did you see any of it?
And do you care?

Speaker 1 (40:07):
I do care? I love because first of all, I'm
a big fan of ROAs, big fan of them there
so and look, there's a lot of debates about who's
the greatest roaster of all time. I would recommend looking
up Greg giraldough if anybody's not seen the late great
Greg Giraldo, look up some of his roasts and some
of his highlights, and then ask yourself would that be
acceptable today? I'm gonna go with no.

Speaker 8 (40:28):
Next, the CEO and head of HR at the company Astronomer,
were caught canoodling on camera at a Coldplay concert. Jonas,
do you care?

Speaker 1 (40:35):
Yeah, I do care. I think the real fall guy
here is not the guy having an affair. It's Coldplay.
And furthermore, it's Gellette Stadium. Because how bad was the
lighting at Gillette Stadium that you made that guy think
that that woman was his wife? You ought to be
ashamed of yourselves, disgusting lighting. Gillette Stadium needs to get

(40:56):
it together or they should lose the Patriots moving forward.
Enough is enough and We've got to protect the innocent
here and I'm going to do it on this show.
So you got all sorts I mean, who says it's
a slow season. We got all sorts of fun stuff
happening in the world of sports this weekend and beyond.
We've got the latest for you coming up here on
FSR Jonas Knox here on Fox Sports Radio. You can

(41:16):
listen to this show as always on the iHeartRadio app.
You can find us on hundreds of affiliates all across
the country and wherever you are making us a part
of your Saturday afternoon, we appreciate you doing so. If
you've been listening to the show, you know if you
can hear the sounds in the background, it's because we
are on location live in Las Vegas for the site
of the return of Many Pakia patri Al Barrios coming

(41:39):
up later on tonight from MGM Grand The buzz is
in the air. We had a chance to catch up
with Jim Gray earlier in the show. Hoping to catch
up with Keith Thurman, welterweight champion, who's going to be
joining us and stopping by here as people are getting
fired up for the return of many Pakia. I will
say this, it has been a while since we've seen
many Pakia fight the all time greats. And you can argue,

(42:02):
you know who's the greatest boxer of all time, you
can't argue with the fact that Manny Pakiav's got one
of the great resumes we've ever seen in the sport
to be able to do what he's done against the
fighter he's fighters he's fought, and you can go win
loss record and look at all the losses if you want,
or you can look at the fact that that guy
climbed up as many weight classes as he did, figured
out a way to keep his power as a lighterweight

(42:23):
fighter and finish guys that were much bigger than him
throughout the course of his career. We know what happened
in the Floyd Mayweather fight. He had a little bit
of a shoulder issue going into that fight and was
a little bit compromised. But nonetheless, it is quite the
vibe here. The Pacquia fans are out in full force
the places. As I mentioned, earlier picking up momentum. We've

(42:47):
got a build. You can feel it in the air.
It is palpable. And the other thing that you can
feel in the air here out in Las Vegas. First
of all, anybody who goes to Vegas, you know that
every time you come back they're building something else. Every
time you come back, there's something new that's being built.
They've got a seemingly endless land to build upon. They've

(43:07):
got all of these things that they're trying to put together.
And on top of it, they're trying to put together
a baseball stadium. Drove by that as they were coming
as we were coming into the hotel landing yesterday in
Las Vegas. So you've got the baseball stadium that they're building.
The A's are going to be moving here. Whatever they're called,
the Sacramento, the Athletics, whatever they're determining their name is

(43:29):
going to be. You've got that happening. You've got the
Raiders here, You've got the Golden Knights. One thing that
you notice about Las Vegas, for all the talk and
all those years to where people looked at Vegas and
they said, well, you know it's a boxing town, or well,
it's an MMA town, or well it's people go there
to gamble, or people go there for the pools. Man

(43:51):
sports has taken over out here, it is slowly starting
to take over, and it's no longer just a place
where you go for parties. It's no longer just I mean, listen,
if you do. I can't recommend it enough that there's
plenty out here to do. If that's something you want
to take a bite out of, maybe Lloyd Howe, the
former NFLPA executive director, is going to stop by here

(44:12):
after he gets done with Tutsi's cabaret, if he's still
expensing that out to the league. But nonetheless, it used
to be that you would come to Vegas and it
would be, well, you're going out there for some fun,
maybe you'll gamble a little bit, maybe you'll do some shopping, etc. Etc.
And now you're seeing, much like what boxing started years ago,

(44:34):
you're seeing major sporting events and major sports want to
do it all in Las Vegas. You saw the Super
Bowl here a couple of years ago, and I can
tell you from somebody who's been to many Super Bowls
at this point in my career, in my time at
Fox Sports Radio, everything was in close proximity. You could
get to where you needed to go. The layout was easy.

(44:58):
You go to some places like the super is going
to be back in the Bay Area coming up next year.
And I can tell you from the first time around,
back in twenty sixteen, there were people complaining about the
fact that you had to take a media shuttle forty
five minutes away to go interview some of the players
from where the media center in Radio Row was. So
for all the discussion about what Vegas was and the

(45:19):
reputation Vegas has, I think it's changed. I think people
are starting to view this as a great setup for sports,
for sporting events. WrestleMania is coming back here for a
second year in a row. They don't do that. That's
not what they That's one of the biggest events anywhere.
They don't do that. They drew one hundred and thirty
thousand people on a two day span at Allegian Stadium

(45:44):
where the Raiders play for WrestleMania, and they're coming back
here for another year next year. Because of how easy
it was, how successful it was. The Super Bowl is
going to be back here again and again and again.
You're seeing pakiaw bar coming up later on tonight. You've
got all of these big events and they're all happening

(46:04):
here in Las Vegas, because I think people recognize for
whatever you think about Vegas, for whatever you think about,
you know, the Las Vegas you grew up with, and look,
I'm somebody who would come out here. When I was
twenty one years old living in southern California, you could
drive to Vegas, right, You could drive to Vegas. It
was like a four hour drive. And I can remember

(46:26):
driving out to Vegas and the thought was, well, you
take a little bit of cash, we'll go to the pools,
we'll party a little bit, and then we'll gamble. And
that was it. Nobody thought, hey, let's go out there.
Maybe you'll get to see WrestleMania. They had one event
at Caesar's Palace years ago and it had never been back,
and now they're coming back two years in a row.
Manny Paciow comes back to fight. Why do you think
he's fighting in Vegas? This is the capital, but it's

(46:47):
no longer just the fight capital. When you think about
Las Vegas, you think about everything that comes along with
it from a sports standpoint, and they are growing and
they're expanding it, and I got news for you based
on the location, and however they get the design figured
out when the A's come here. If you don't think
that's going to be a destination or a tourist attraction
for people, you were out of your mind, much like

(47:08):
the Raiders were. There were a lot of Raider fans
who were bummed that they left the Bay Area, but
there were a lot of Raider fans. And if we're
gonna be honest about this, in my opinion, the largest
NFL fan base in Southern California are the Raiders. You
could say whatever you want about the Rams, you could
say whatever you want about the Chargers, you can say

(47:28):
whatever you want about the Cowboys, and the largest fan
base from an NFL standpoint in Southern California is the Raiders.
And when people found out the Raiders were going to Vegas, yeah,
you had some people that were like, man, that sucks
for the people in the Bay Area. That sucks for
that fan base that's been through a lot to see
him leave and then to see him come back and
then end up leaving again because they play in an
outhouse for a stadium that they won't renovate or get

(47:51):
done because they can't get the funding for it. But
when you see and you bond hearing the news, Oh
but they're going to Vegas, and then you get out
here and you see the way they've part of them.
You see the way the city has supported the Golden Knights.
It's not the same Vegas it used to be. It
just isn't. And it's not the Vegas where you go
to have a rager and party and like this place,

(48:13):
I mean, for lack of a better term, it almost
feels like it's matured to where it's no longer just
some some booze bin party house where you go to
gamble and blow your your kids tuition and you know,
maybe a fool around with Lloyd hal or whoever else
is out here to try and to you know, get
your rocks off, so to speak. No, this is a
place where people are putting on major sporting events, much

(48:34):
like we're going to see later on tonight with Pachy
on Barrios. And it's a place where every professional league
is showing up. The NFL's here, the NHL got here first,
Major League Baseball's getting here soon. And I got news
for you. The NBA is going to be next that's happening.
And we can talk about expansion in Seattle and all

(48:54):
these other cities, the one that makes the most sense
is the NBA. And please stop and don't worry. We've
got plenty on the potential scandal that's going on in
the NBA when it comes to Terry Rogier. But please stop.
If anybody out there is going, man, I don't know
if this is a good idea. If you want him
to play in that town, I can assure you the
Golden Knights have figured it out, The Raiders have figured

(49:15):
it out, the A's are going to figure it out.
And just like everybody else here and everybody outside of
your has figured it out, this place is a sportstown.
Now it is as much a sportstown as it is
a gambling town, which is why the biggest fights are here,
and now the biggest leagues are following suit Jonas Knox
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that's his name. On X, he writes in and says,

(49:59):
I expect more from you since your beefcake came back
this week to carry your sorry ass. Go back to
overnights and discussing the catalog of all time greats like
Will Pounder. Aaron writes in, Hey, Jonas, clearly the NFL
Players Association didn't vet Lloyd Howell. I understand why everybody's
upset because clearly Fox Sports Radio didn't vet you since

(50:21):
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(50:45):
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we are going to catch up with the great Keith Thurman.
He is a world champion. He's going to be joining
us here on Fox Sports Radio. Keith Thurman is with
us here and we will catch up with Keith coming
up here. You guys want to do it? You good
to go now? Or do we want to wait and

(51:07):
do it? Okay, I'll tell you we're gonna gohead, We're
gonna get set up, but we have got a champion
in the house. Keith Thurman is going to be joining
you coming up next here on Fox Sports Radio. Jonas
is counted today, Jonas Knox here on Fox Sports Radio.
Coming up, we'll call it a little over ten minutes

(51:27):
from now. We're going to tell you about maybe the
greatest story in the NBA this offseason. And this is
something that everybody can relate to. All Right, So even
if you're not the biggest NBA fan, we've got the
story for you. That'll be yours here again a little
over ten minutes from now. But we told you a
champion was gonna roll through, and we want to keep
our promises.

Speaker 4 (51:46):
Here.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
He is the one and only Keith one time Thurman,
and I already let me just tell you this, I
got a bone to pick, all right, and I'm gonna
tell you why I got a bone to pick. Keith,
thank you for joining us. By the way, on a Saturday,
I was having an interview and a conversation with Eddie House.
Eddie House, isn't you know won an NBA championship with
the Celtics back in two thousand and eight, and I

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kept calling him former NBA champion and he stopped me.
He's like, listen, man, when you're a champion, you're always
a champion. I was like, you know what, I'm kind
of a horse's ass. You're right, that is true. So
why here's this say, former world champion, you held the
championship at the welterweight division for years. To me, that
should be forever. So congratulations on a on a hell
of a run even this point to your career. But

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what's with the former stuff? Why do people do that?

Speaker 4 (52:31):
No, it's proper.

Speaker 10 (52:32):
It's just it's it's it's proper etiquette on calling people
former champion. Right at the end of the day, the
people wants a champ, always a champ. This is how
it works with the people. But when you're in a
setting like this and you're calling out you know who
you're discussing with on a show.

Speaker 4 (52:53):
You know it's proper.

Speaker 10 (52:54):
That's my title, Keith one time Dermot, the former unified
welterweight Champion of the World World. Yeah, but when the
people see me because once you're a champ. When I
walk by the like, there's a champ, right, and so
it's a catch twenty two. Yeah, So he was just
trying to bust you up a little bit. Guys like
you know, we're always champs and stuff. Yeah, I got

(53:14):
I think it's a I think it's proper and I
respect uh. And then it allows me, you know, because
I just did my comeback in earlier this year in March,
you know, knowing that this is how people communicate with me.
It has that burning desire to be champion once again,
so I don't mind it.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
Yeah. Well, I would say this because obviously you have.
You were in rarefied air and perfect for tonight's fight
between Pachia Barrios here in Vegas because you fought both
guys and I'm gonna get into that with you coming
up in a little bit. But I want to ask
you because a lot of us, like we will buy
the pay per view turn on the fight. Watch you
guys perform, We see what happens in the ring. We

(53:55):
get some glimpses of training camp highlights, we get some
glimpses of a docum entry series or whatnot. But take
us into what today the day of a fight, just
hours before you get in there to throw down with somebody.
Take us into what today is like for you as
a fighter as you approach this event coming up later
on tonight.

Speaker 10 (54:16):
I mean, it's just that moment, right, It's everything that
you were just talking about. You know, there was all
the training camp, all the preparation, but what about the childhood,
what about all the days in the gym that showed
zero rewards? You know, And so this moment is for

(54:37):
us fighters. This moment is what I could like to
call living the dream, you know. And there's a lot
on the line.

Speaker 4 (54:45):
You know.

Speaker 10 (54:46):
Mario Barrios, after losing to Tank Davis and myself, has
been able to re establish himself as champion and had
some good performances, had a tough outgoing his last fight,
you know, some knockdown and he knocked the other guy down,
ended up being a draw, and so here he is
with a once in a lifetime opportunity to fight the

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legendary Many Pacquiao. And I was in the same boat
in twenty nineteen when I was the undefeated champion of
the world. And it's cool to fight legends, but it's
cooler to walk away beating legends, you know. So for
Mario Barrios, this moment just has to be a dream
come true.

Speaker 4 (55:27):
You know, people are gonna say, oh, if.

Speaker 10 (55:28):
He wins, oh he beat a forty six year old
Manny Pacquiao. But there's a difference in being in the
history books to somebody who fought Many Pakiao and somebody
who beat Many pak Yao.

Speaker 4 (55:38):
And I think that's gotta be weighing on his mind. Tonight.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
Keith Thurman joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. Welter
waight unified welterweight Champion of the World. We can call
him former, we can call him current, whatever, we all
call him champ with us here on FSR. So, all right,
for you personally, fights coming up for guys like myself
or James me or whoever, like whoever else is getting

(56:02):
ready for this fight. We're thinking of ourselves, all right.
The fight starts at this time. Let's go get a
beer here let's play some blackjack here, let's do this
you personally, what did you need and what do you
do to get yourself ready to arrive to the arena
and put on a show.

Speaker 10 (56:18):
You know, they already have a timeline where they're gonna
throw the fighters in there in their back room, you know,
in the back room where I like to call it
like the dungeon. You know, it's like when I'm when
I'm sitting backstage and I'm waiting and waiting.

Speaker 4 (56:38):
And then eventually they're gonna wrap our hands.

Speaker 10 (56:40):
Then eventually you're gonna start warming up, and then you're
gonna put your gloves on and you're gonna start doing mitwork.
And there's just this slow build up. It's about four
hours before the fight. There's this nice slow build up.
But the moment you get back in the dungeon, you know,
it's like you're you're a trapped animal. And then eventually

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they're gonna let you out of the cage. And when
you get out of the cage, you're gonna do that
ring walk that the fans get to enjoy, the build up,
the anticipation, the last final moments before the fighters really
get into the ring, and so it's really fighters just
have Every fighter has their own process when it comes
to these stages that I'm talking about, but they're so

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crucial because backstage you can be anxious, you can be nervous,
you can be excited, you can be amped, you know,
and you can be mentally preparing, physically preparing. Sometimes it's
the music, you know. I mean when I was an amateur,
not in the probe, When I was an amateur before fights,

(57:46):
like I would listen to DMX, you know, because there's
nothing like like rough Riders, National Anthem, right gets pumped
up before a fight, right, you know.

Speaker 4 (57:55):
Now nowadays I'll just listen.

Speaker 10 (57:57):
I remember before my last fight, like I was just
listening to some CA you know because k Dow it's
so hot right now, and you know, it's just you
want to be in a mindset you need.

Speaker 4 (58:07):
To the world doesn't matter. There's moments.

Speaker 10 (58:12):
There's just minutes and hours that are leading up to
a fight that you've been training eight, ten, twelve weeks
of preparation, depending on the fight camp and how they
work their camps, right, So there's all this anticipation and
this night is the fulfillment of all that tough training.

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It's really the cherry on top, the icing on the cake,
however you want to put it.

Speaker 4 (58:36):
And you know, I mean.

Speaker 10 (58:38):
I always tell I always tell people right before they're
about to go out, box hard, box smart. You know, win,
lose or draw. If you did your best, you hold
your head up high. I mean, we're all champions. Mario
Barrios is a champion. Man Pack is a champion. We're
all champions, man, And you know, we're trying to elevate ourselves,
our status, our careers, and ultimately continue to entertain the

(59:03):
world of boxing. You the people, the fight fans, and
just showcase skills and talent and show the beauty. To
me coming to fight night and watching fights, I'm when
I'm looking for a great fight. I just want to
see that beauty of boxing that hit, don't get hit,
or everybody gets hit.

Speaker 4 (59:21):
I don't care.

Speaker 10 (59:22):
You know, it's like, you know, it's entertainment. Well, we
want to see what type of fight are these men
going to show tonight? And I'm happy to be here.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
Boxer Keith Thurman with us here on Fox Sports Radio,
Jonas knoxity here on FSR. The Life of a fighter,
The part of that life that nobody hears.

Speaker 10 (59:38):
About is what, Like I said, it's the it's the upbringing,
you know, it's the seven eight miles a day, you
know that they're running, you know. It's it's those moments
where you're climbing the ladder and people don't even know
your name yet, but you're still striving to be something,

(01:00:00):
to be great, for the world to know who you are.

Speaker 4 (01:00:03):
You know.

Speaker 10 (01:00:03):
I remember when I got my first fight on HBO,
and by winning that fight, I was literally legitimately ranked
number ten of the top ten, you know, And to me,
it's just historic for me and my whole career because
that's the beginning of the real climb to that world title,

(01:00:25):
you know. And that's the day that the world got
to see Keith Thurman on HBO. And now I'm officially
in the top ten, they have to say my name.
Later that year, I got Prospect of the Year award
and things of that nature. Small little, small little wins.
But it's just it's just like I said, live in

(01:00:47):
a dream, you know, I was the dream that I
live and continuously live as a fighter is the same
dream that I had when I was nine years old,
seven years old. So when people watch Key Thermin fight.
You'll always notice that when I step in the ring,
I happen to be wearing red, white and blue. It's
not because of how patriotic I am was, because to

(01:01:09):
step in that ring has always been my all American
dream and I'm happy to represent America because boxing is
a worldwide sport and champions can come from any place
at any time.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
And you know what's that I don't think a lot
of people get to see and I know this from
covering you know, boxing events, MMA events, Like you can
even talk to like certain promoters and they'll tell you
a you can interview guys or get an interview with
the guy up until this day, and then you come
to find out, Oh, it's because they're going through a weightcut.

(01:01:42):
And on top of going through a weightcut, they've got
to get their mind ready, they've got to get their
body ready, and they've got to come to terms with
the fact that, hey, things could get rough in there,
like real rough. And on top of all that, you've
got family, children people watching you go out there and
literally put your life on the line for this. And
it's like, I think people view it as, yes, it's entertainment,

(01:02:06):
but I think there's only a select few that are
willing to just say, all right, I'll be a part
of this and I'll put myself out there. And so
to see these guys go up there later on tonight,
does it give you those emotions even on the outside
watching because you know it better than anybody, do you do?
You start to get the itch, the feeling, the buzz,

(01:02:28):
the excitement, the nerves, the energy watching other people go
through what you've done for over thirty times professionally in
your career.

Speaker 4 (01:02:36):
You know, I look at it as we all have
a small loose group, right, you know.

Speaker 10 (01:02:44):
It's a little bit of that adrenaline junkie, right, that
evil canievil. Yeah, you know, some people avoid danger in
life and some people step into the fire, you know,
and that's fighters.

Speaker 4 (01:02:59):
And so it's easy to talk about tonight.

Speaker 10 (01:03:02):
It's easy to talk about world champions who are fighting
in Vegas these big stages. But when you bring up
this topic, the first thing that popped in my mind
was the other guys, the other fighters.

Speaker 4 (01:03:16):
The guy who's.

Speaker 10 (01:03:17):
Got twenty five fights, you know, with with half of
them being losses, and he's looking for his next fight.
You know, I fought a guy earlier on in my career.
He was like twenty six wins, twenty four losses, you know,
a very active fighter, you know. And at the time
I was younger and he kind of was a little
bit more of a veteran, you know, but a very

(01:03:38):
active fighter, you know. But his whole career is like
fifty to fifty, you know. But they don't stop, and
they're people that you'll never know, and to me, they
deserve just as much respect as anybody because of how
difficult the process that you just mentioned, the weight cut,
that this the putting yourself out there and just stepping

(01:03:59):
in the ring, and then you know you're not the
best fighter, but you have the passion of a fighter,
so you keep staying in the realm of boxing. Though
you're never gonna be in the top ten. You're never
gonna you know, you get to make some side money.
Most of them have a day job, and then they
get to make some side good paychecks and live their
life and get a portion of this dream, though they

(01:04:21):
don't get the ultimate success of the dream of being
a world champion. And that's why, you know, no matter
how much I'd talk my talk, I walk my walk,
there's a deep inside of me. I know, I respect
every human being that steps into.

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
The Oh you have to. I mean, listen, my Uber
driver yesterday is a professional MMA fighter but has to
drive Uber because early on in their career and just
had to fight canceled. That's a payday. That's a payday,
so had to pick up extra Uber shifts just to
pay the bills. And I think that doesn't get talked about,

(01:04:57):
like you see that the top of the top. But
to your point, it's those undercrud. Like man, I remember
going to a fight at Hollywood Park Casino back in
LA and I remember the undercard were like these four
round fights, which sometimes those guys are looking to make
a name for themselves. And I saw a guy come
out in a prison outfit, like a prison jumpsuit, just

(01:05:19):
to try and get some attention, make a name for himselves.
And you look at that and go, oh, it's a spectacle. No,
he's trying to pay his bills. He's trying to get known,
get seen. He's fighting a four rounder. Then you upgrade
to a six or an eight, and then you're on
a ten round fight. Journey's crazy not.

Speaker 10 (01:05:32):
Even started training till he already was in prison. Bernard
Hopkins learned how to box in prison. He had his
first fight, his first professional fight in prison. This is
a true story of Bernard Hopkins, the former world champion.

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
That's crazy, Yeah, it's it's a mad respect to you
guys and what you go through. Now we mentioned this.
Keith Thurman's with us here on Fox Sports Radio. You
have got the I guess and credit to you, but
you've got the special I guess, the special designation of
guy who fought both guys fighting tonight in the main event.

(01:06:06):
You fought Many Pakiaw. You fought Mario Barrios. That's you.
You're the man. People are asking what do you think
of itch? I want to start with Many Pakiow first.
What impressed you the most about your fight with Many
Pakiaw oneted the all time greats.

Speaker 10 (01:06:21):
It was that he really it was a great year
for pakia You know what people forget about twenty nineteen
was how active Many Pakiaw was. You know, he fought
Matisa that year, he fought Adrian Broner and then he
fought Keith Thurman. So I believe he had three fights
within somewhere from a twelve to fourteen month window. So
he was very active. Yes he was forty years old,

(01:06:43):
but he was highly active. And I because of that,
I got to get a phenomenal Mani patio on the ring,
the way that he trained, the way that he prepared
for the for the fight, and what surprised me the
most was, of course, was the handspeed. Hand speed was
really great, and it was the combo choices, the mix up.

Speaker 4 (01:07:05):
The mix up was phenomenal. I loved it, even though
I'm the one getting hit by it.

Speaker 10 (01:07:10):
It's that bitter it's that bitter sweet, like okay, many,
I'll see you.

Speaker 4 (01:07:14):
I got you, baby, Okay, are you coming in with
the poop?

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
Okay?

Speaker 10 (01:07:18):
And you know I'm talking about live action. I mean
everything besides my hand being raised at the end of
the twelve rounds was legitimately the dream of a lifetime.
It's what I've always wanted, It's what I It's what
I did, what I did all my sitters, for my
push ups, for my pull ups, for running, for sparring
for It's what I've lived this life for.

Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
Was for that.

Speaker 10 (01:07:39):
Moment in twenty nineteen, and to just share the ring
with a legend and to have that type of performance,
to go back and forth, back and forth. But his
his footwork, the combination choices, the handspeed, like he's so small.

Speaker 4 (01:07:56):
Once he ducked, he like disappeared.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
I'm like, where you go? You know where to talk?

Speaker 10 (01:08:01):
Like this batman, I'm like, oh, I'm like, dang, he's
down by my kneecaps.

Speaker 4 (01:08:04):
So I'm like, should I hit him with my knee?
Should get him left hook with my knee?

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
Cap?

Speaker 10 (01:08:07):
I don't got to punch for that. He was you know,
it was, it just was. It was beautiful to share
the ring.

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
You know, when you.

Speaker 10 (01:08:19):
When you're in a fight, when you most of the
time when you fight these fighters on average, at this level,
you've it's very rare that you're gonna fight somebody that
you've trained with. It happened. It happens. You've trained early
on with some great fighters and this and that, and
later on you end up in competition with them. That's
back in my my fight twenty sixteen with Sean Porter.
We trained together on several different occasions and then we

(01:08:40):
had a world title fight together. But outside of that,
it's rarely ever happened. So you have to fight this man,
and you really don't know what it's like to be
in the ring with them. You just see everything from
the outside, you know, So I mean it was, it
just was everything that I wanted it to be.

Speaker 1 (01:08:59):
I mean, you you mentioned the speed. I remember when
he came up and wait to fight David Diaz, and
I remember Diez saying afterwards, I can handle the power. Yes,
he said, at one point, I thought Freddy was hitting me.
Talking about Freddy Roach, that was because he goes because
Manny threw so fast, and he was in and out
so quick that you just and look. For the longest time,

(01:09:21):
Pakia was known as a guy who just had a
left hand. He's got a real hard left hand, and
then all of a sudden he started working that right
and Freddy got him to a point. Freddie Roach got
him to a point to where, oh, like, he's a
really good boxer. His defense got better. But that speed
has got to be hell to have to deal with
as a fighter. And I would imagine, you know, knowing
you also fighting Mario Barrios. Where is Barrios dangerous because

(01:09:44):
you beat him, but as you mentioned, he has bounced
back and now he gets the opportunity that you had
to fight a legend like Manny Pacio coming off you know,
all this time off in retirement, a couple of exhibition bouts.
Where is Mario Barrios dangerous to many Pacio here?

Speaker 10 (01:10:00):
I mean the first thing is similarly to what helped
Packy on twenty nineteen. You just mentioned Mario Barrios has
been active, Many Pakya has been inactive.

Speaker 4 (01:10:12):
That's already favoring Barrios.

Speaker 10 (01:10:15):
And I got some insight from the fight people this
this week with Fight Week that Brios's last performance, which
ended up into a draw, the training camp was not what.

Speaker 4 (01:10:26):
It needed to be. It was not ideal for him
and his team.

Speaker 10 (01:10:30):
And they're saying that he's having the best training camp
of his life, you know, And I think that's because
you know, when you see the consequences of the.

Speaker 1 (01:10:41):
Lack of preparation wall, it's a wake up call.

Speaker 10 (01:10:44):
Whether it's you get, you win, you lose, or you
have a draw, which in his case it was a
draw performance.

Speaker 4 (01:10:49):
You know, but is that what you you.

Speaker 10 (01:10:51):
Want to You'll start not really losing fans, but your
name's not going to grow if you're getting draws here,
draws there. No champions need to win, right, Champions need
to win and so I know that their team has
trained really hard for this in preparation for going for
that wind. Now a lot of people are saying, what
is Mario Barris's strength? The problem is I didn't let

(01:11:13):
him show me any of his strength, you know, the
way that I boxed them. You know, I just try
to neutralize anything he was bringing to the table with
my footwork. And I noticed that my footwork was really
an obstacle for him in the fight, which if Pakal
does have his feet under him, that could be a

(01:11:33):
key to victory for Manny Pakialf. My footwork gave Mario
Barrio's problems. Pack Yow's footwork can give Mario Barrio's problems.
But I do remember talking after the fight. The only
thing that stuck in my head, and it was so
ironic because no other champion has ever made me acknowledge this.

Speaker 4 (01:11:50):
It was his jab. He had a really solid job.

Speaker 10 (01:11:54):
I was impressed because I grew up with Ronald Winky Wright,
who beat Shane Moseley twice, made Tino Trinidad look like
a bibble.

Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
One of the most underrated fighters of all time. Wiki
right the.

Speaker 10 (01:12:04):
Defense and that jab and I have not for many
years and I've never in my professional career have I
been in the ring where I'm like, I have to
acknowledge this person's jab. And it was Mario Barrios. You know,
of course the jab is not the most devastating punch,
but it's a punch that it's.

Speaker 4 (01:12:22):
A tool, and you need tools.

Speaker 10 (01:12:24):
You know, when you're doing a job, when you're a handyman,
you need to bring your tools. Babe, bring the whole
tool set just in case, you know, and so you
know you might only need one or two, but they
bring the whole set. And Mario Barrios, I think that
jab with his longer reach of Manny Pacquiao, Manny Pacow
being forty six years old, make Manny Pacyow use his legs.

(01:12:44):
He's been off. Those legs might not be what they
once were. Let's find out. Make him use those legs.
Stay on the outside, work that jab. And ironically, there
was a moment in my fight finally he came through
Mario Barrio set. He came through and he winged a
shot at me and I pretty much saw all the

(01:13:05):
shots coming except for this one boom down to the
body and he maybe get on my bike. I winced
and I had to get on my bicycle, and so
I did get to feel Barrios's power on the inside
at one occasion. He does have that long reach, but
he didn't he wasn't able to establish his power and
his combinations against me from the outside. I was actually

(01:13:28):
dominating him from the outside. But the one moment that
he got one time, one good time, it was from
a body shot on the inside, you know, And I
do know him being a Latino fighter, Mexican based fighter,
he has the habit of trading it up and mixing
it up. And you know, Madning Packyll, being forty six
years old, it doesn't hurt to go to the body.

(01:13:50):
Go to the body. If you're worried about his legs,
that can slow his legs down early too, you know.
So I'm interested in seeing what kind of tactic. I
think his jab will be a good tactic. But I
also think some nice solid body shots really from both
opponents is let's see who can establish what.

Speaker 1 (01:14:08):
Win and first you know it's gonna be it's gonna
be a fun one. Keith, I could talk to you
all day, man. I appreciate you stopping by Keith one time.
Thurman former I guess we're called former welterweight champion of
the world. Good man. We appreciate you stopping by here
on Fox Sports Radio and for all the latest from
around the world of sports. We turn it over to
Isa low Well.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
I thank you, Jonas.

Speaker 9 (01:14:29):
Today's Major League Baseball action is underway, and it's underway
north of the border in Toronto, where the Blue Jays
and San Francisco Giants are scoreless going to the bottom
half of the third inning. Round three of the Open
Championship is in the books at Royal Port Rush Golf
Club in Northern Ireland. Scotti Scheffler as a four shot

(01:14:51):
lead at fourteen under par overall after a four under
sixty seven today that comprised of fifteen pars, two birdies,
one eagle and zero bogie shot is how tong Lee
is in second place at ten under par overall. Rory
McElroy one of the big stories of round three of
five under sixty six today to move to within six

(01:15:14):
shots of the lead.

Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
Hey, Jonas, are you there by the way of course?

Speaker 7 (01:15:19):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:15:19):
Illo?

Speaker 9 (01:15:20):
Please, First of all, I know I like to give
you a hard time. That was actually a really good
interview that you just did. A. I didn't know you
were as knowledgeable as you were about the sweet science.
And also you're a good one on one interviewer, so
kudos to you.

Speaker 1 (01:15:36):
Well, I appreciate it. I'm just reading up the prompter,
you know, this is all typed up. Jamie, who's with me,
actually typed up all these questions. We're looking at a
teleprompter together, and so we're just kind of faking our
way through this.

Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
Well, good job you, Jamie, and also a good job
again to you Jonas.

Speaker 9 (01:15:50):
In addition to you know, the reading of the teleprompter,
you also did a good job covering up your naturally
unpleasant personality.

Speaker 13 (01:15:57):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
By the way, earlier earlier.

Speaker 9 (01:16:01):
Listeners, Jonas was very critical of the British broadcasters for
being a little too enthusiastic whenever a golfer from the
UK would do something good. We mentioned Rory McElroy case
in point. Here was his eagle on twelve today.

Speaker 11 (01:16:16):
This is for eagle three.

Speaker 4 (01:16:18):
It's on its way.

Speaker 5 (01:16:19):
Come on, Rory, Come on, Rory, keep going, keep going,
keep going.

Speaker 11 (01:16:22):
Let's go, it's coming over the ridge.

Speaker 12 (01:16:24):
Go on and again and again, Yes, bounce fight Rory
McElroy eagle on the twelfth, and Jonas also took exception
to the commentator's treatment of England's Tyrrell Hatton.

Speaker 9 (01:16:41):
He's also six shots back after a three hundred sixty
eight today. But here was the way they described his
eagle on the seventh hole.

Speaker 1 (01:16:49):
Is ooh, that's that's brilliant. Get in, get in, get
in on a shot.

Speaker 14 (01:17:03):
That's crazy, that is madness, But it's absolutely.

Speaker 13 (01:17:06):
Brilliant from Teryrrel Hasson. Definitely Mahita's all around now. So
Hatton thrust himself right up into the freight.

Speaker 2 (01:17:15):
Nothing wrong with any of that to me, Jonas, back
to you, Oh my.

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
God, I have so many thoughts and not enough time
to give him. Thank you, Iilo. It is Jonas Knox
here on Fox Sports Radio. Coming up next here, we
are going to close up shop on this eventful Saturday
live from Las Vegas with another edition of The Scraps
here on FSR. Jonas Knox here on Fox Sports Radio
coming up a little over ten minutes from now. Make
sure you stick around here to FSR. Tracy Sandler and
Bridget Condon will be taking over the airwaves. We are

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bidding farewell to Las Vegas. On site for Pacqui al
Barrios here at the MGM Grand. They'll be competing against
each other coming up later on tonight. Before we get going,
I want to thank Jamie who's been writing Shotgun here,
came in on a Saturday, our tech producer who's done
a phenomenal job getting every thing set up. I mean,
you know, he he pounded the table demanded we have

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four pots of coffee over to the left. We've got that.
We've got everything set up. Steve Pratt who helped put
all this together, as well to Jim Gray who stopped
by earlier, Keith Thurman, who was fantastic stop by it
just a few minutes ago. So I appreciate everybody making
things happen here live from Las Vegas, here at the
MGM Grand. And right now, by the way, we are
going to post the podcast of this show coming up.

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It'll be posted shortly after we go off there. I'll
tweet out a link to that as well too at
the Jonas Knox. But right now we'll close up shop
with something we do every week, and it's called.

Speaker 3 (01:18:34):
This Jonas Moron, How could you not get to these stories?

Speaker 11 (01:18:40):
Moron?

Speaker 1 (01:18:41):
Fees are there scraps all right, Bo Bens, an executive producer,
what do we got?

Speaker 8 (01:18:46):
Well, Jonas, you know that saying if something fails the
first time, just try again.

Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:18:50):
Yeah. Clippers GM Lawrence Frank says that Chris Paul is
a player they're interested in acquiring, So I.

Speaker 1 (01:18:57):
Mean, what's your problem though, Like, haven't you done an?

Speaker 8 (01:19:00):
I mean, it's like we have to report the news here.

Speaker 1 (01:19:03):
Like Bo Benson is the type of guy who would
call the cops if he saw Santa Claus in his
house and and and and have him forcefully removed from
the building, dropping gifts off to his daughter like it
just can't you just have a heart and let the
Clippers enjoy some some another off season win because we
know how the Seeds regular season is going to go. Please?

Speaker 8 (01:19:23):
Did you hear our dear friend Rob Parker this week
talking about how the Clippers are the new it franchise
in the NBA based on all the guys that they've
signed and that want to play there, create Chris Paul
might be younger than all of those guys that he
mentioned that they don't.

Speaker 1 (01:19:41):
I just don't. I don't. I mean, look, I love
it best, but we've got enough of a body of
evidence to know that things might go sideways with the clippers.

Speaker 8 (01:19:50):
Here, give me the money shot wow on investigator, Speaking
of money, an investigation uncovered that a better placed thirty
bets on Harry Rosier is under unders, his totals and everything.

Speaker 11 (01:20:04):
No, no, no, no, Bo.

Speaker 1 (01:20:05):
Listen, he's been clear to the investigator. You know, listen,
the NBA investigated him. Everything is good to go. We
are all clear. There's nothing to see here. Oh wait,
it's not. The investigation isn't over. They're still looking into them. Look, man,
people get caught up on the point spreads and the
over unders and all this. It's the prop bets where
you're gonna get God. And the fact that you can
manipulate the unders the way that you do. That's where

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this whole thing could go sideways. This has been a
fun one. Thanks to Bo Benson, thanks to Chris Purfet,
and thanks to Isaac Low and Crown, and thanks to
everybody here in Las Vegas. Here on FSR shonas son
of a Bitch,