The Fellas with Anthony Gargano and Geoff Schwartz discuss each NFL division's outlook, Big Ten Media day, and a viral story in Little League baseball!

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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Oh, good morning, good morning, a morning, good morning, good morning,
happy happy Fox Sports Saturday Fellas. I'm gonna treat today
my man, Jeff Schwartz. I'm Anthony Gargana Fellas. And you
know we're happy because camp is in full bloom. We

(00:47):
got it everywhere training camps.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
But lots of highlights every day on the old social
media feeds. And I'm you can feel in the air
it's coming, you know, that's it.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
I was at Eagles camp yesterday, uh, at practice, and
it just feels good.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
And it's funny.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
There's this step man, there's like it's early in camp
and and you know, I don't know how many fights
you probably started to get out of practice of times,
you know, but you see them now and it's just
a couple of days in and they're loving it right
Like you just feel that. You feel like everybody's back.
There's an excitement to it. You know, pretty soon everybody

(01:28):
get tired of it. But like right now, it feels
like there's a jump.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Well, I mean, they don't hit each other anymore. It's
probably why they feel so good. The pads are like
optional right now. Feels like across the NFL, the way
that the new CBA is. I mean that I love
Camp two. If I didn't hit him money for a week,
it would have been it would have been a lot
better on the on the old joints and mentally as well.
I mean, you know I'm not to be the old guy,
but I mean we would We've been full pads day one.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
We were also doing two a day's John Foxy. Yeah,
so I mean he's gonna stay. Don't do anymore anyway. Yeah,
nobody does two a days anymore. Nobody does that afternoon session.
All that stuff's gone. It's amazing how quick too, like
they are, like you know, ninety minutes and you know
it all depends. But some coaches are so streamlined it's

(02:19):
pretty wild. I mean, I know what you guys went through,
and it was real.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
It was a lot different now.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
But look, these guys obviously they negotiat for this, so
good good for them. But you know, when you're the champions,
as the Eagles are, I imagine that there's some comfortability
in sort of our way works. You know, like we've
done this and it's been working for us, and so
let's just run back the way we prepare for the season.
I imagine there's some there's a little bit of comfort

(02:46):
in that, I would guess. I mean, you always want
to adapt and and not do the same thing over
and over again. But obviously what the Eagles did last
year worked, and it's worked for many years now, right.
They've been very successful franchise. So there's some comfortability in
training camp of knowing that, you know, we've been winning.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Yeah, and you know with them, they're interesting in that
the Nick Sirianni when he first started was pretty they
were pretty light, and they amped up the work last year.
I think Fangio Vic Fangi had a lot to do
with that, but they they amped it up and they

(03:23):
hit a lot. They put the pads on during the week,
and they were they were They took pride in and
they believed that they were one of the more physical teams,
almost like you know how the Ravens are every year,
how physical they are, and I think the Eagles became that.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yeah, they believed.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
I was talking to one of the coaches yesterday and
we were just talking about last year and they believed.
We saw the big play run game, which is really
unique last year with Barkley hitting all those home runs,
and they believed that that at some point the other
team would will and that those plays would be there,

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and and they thought that that's how it would be,
that they would wear teams down and grind them down,
and they took pride in it.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
There everybody bought in. Look, there is still a physicality
to the game. It's it's it's hard to to talk
about any team that's successful and exclude the physicality part
of that. And you have to practice that. It doesn't
just it does just happen. I mean there's very few teams.
Even the Rams come to mind as someone that really

(04:29):
sort of I think does more of the you know,
less on the bodies type of practices, right, and they're successful.
But otherwise you look at like you know, the Chiefs
and you read notoriously very very physical training camp, right.
I mean it's just over the years, and I think
people don't really understand that, you know, Jim Harbaugh, right
for all those years, I think still in Baltimore, you know,

(04:50):
very physical camps, Buffalo physical camp, Sean McDermott and and
you know Belich all these guys for so many years.
We're so physical, you know, the Rams or a new
model I think it's new, but it it works obviously,
But you know you you're a hitting camp man.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
To be good. Yeah, I Andy, I mean Andy was
Andy had tough camps.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
I covered a lot. I was at all those camps
early obviously with the Eagles. And then you mentioned you
know McDermott and you know John Harball him is the
same way.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
But those are the two guys.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Uh you know, they're from reach tree, They're from Andy's tree.
So they that's how they learned, right, And that's that's
how they you know, believe about you know, making you know,
building those calluses. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
I mean that's the thing about the misconception with Andy
Reid is like he he man, they get after the practice.
I think you look at Andy Reid and you and
you think, you know jovial and he certainly can be
an offensive guy. And how much they know they put
that work in, Man, that is an Andy Reid special
and that's you know, that's what training camp is. And

(05:54):
we're seeing the work these teams put in now and
it does pay off.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
Man. I played one year with Andy read my brother
played five.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
And the work you put in training camp as much
as maybe as a player, you know, what's uncomfortable training camp.
It's supposed to be. Uh that work. It helps you
win championships, man, it really does.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Yeah, I mean that's why he's where he's at. At
some point, well, we'll probably take over the all time
leader and wins because of that. He's just he's a
great coach. He you know, he's one of the he's
one of the treasures of the league. You know, he's
a great coach. And he's also you know, you play
for me now, he's he's one of the best guys.

(06:33):
He he does love his players too, like he loves
his guys, and the guys love him back.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Because he treats the players with disrespect. I know that
sounds kind of silly, but there are a lot of
coaches that treat the players like their kids still and
there are still players that deserve that and their maturity
is not really there. But and he just doesn't do that.
And what he says to us is how he's going

(06:59):
to coach us. And I think players really appreciate that
honesty and that willingness to just be truthful. Hey man,
this is what I'm gonna do as a coach, and
that he does exact thing he says, is gonna.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
Do you know.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
One of the things that I always liked to is
he had a great way dealing with like he he
had this leadership council. I weren't for Did he have
that with you, guy? When you were there with everyone?

Speaker 2 (07:24):
I mean, yeah, most everyone has leadership councils, just that
some coaches just don't listen to them.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
No, No, he was. He was very active with it.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
No, no, yeah, when his leadership council he met, he
met with them regularly. Yeah, yeah, like that was part
of it. And the other part of it too is
like his right hand man is Rick Burke all there
who is the trainer and Rick Rick's is great people
And you know, listen, it's all about that relationship with
the player. Players have to feel comfortable to the training staff.

(07:54):
And you know better than anybody, you don't. You don't
have to say nice things about Rick. He's not gonna
hear it. It's okay, okay, you know you don't.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
That's my boy. Rick and I go back a long time.
He's probably he's probably listening right now. So he's probably
because in training camp. In training camp, they don't sleep
in Kansas City. I don't take the training camp and
so you might be listening to this right now. I
just want to make sure that he knows how he
feels about him.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
One day, my uh, my wife, this is like years ago,
my wife had a horrible pain and uh it turned
out her her lung was collapsed through and we didn't
know what was going on. And you know, I texted Rick,

(08:39):
I go, dude, you might so I brought my wife
over to the facility for him to take a look
at her, and he and he got her fixed.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
He knew exactly what was going on. He was the
best there is. The Chiefs have.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Been a very healthy team a Rick, And you know,
some of that is just luck, right, I mean, you know,
you you there are injuries that happened during the week
that are unavoidable, right, Guys fall into piles, Guys getting
tripped up. I mean, there's stuff that you just can't avoid.
But the Chiefs rarely have players that I would consider,

(09:17):
you know, injured by lack of like training, like you know,
muscle polls, right, they don't have a lot of muscle poles.
They don't have a lot of out of shape guys
just kind of getting hurt. They don't have those that
they have. They have you know, guy tears an ACL
he gets hit in the knee like that, that's football, right,
that happens, and that goes to really the training and

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they also get guys back very quickly from injury during
the season. And some of that's is Patrick Mahomes for
the most part being a freak show. And he does
have his own you know, he's got his own his
own crew that helps as well. But he has credited
some of the chief staff to get him back quickly
from uh, you know, certain injuries and whatnot, so that
there's a quality to that, right. The Chiefs don't have
a lot of guys hurt every year and it helps

(09:59):
you win, right, you can stay healthy, you have a
more opportunity to win.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
So let me ask you a question.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Someone's going through it and you know many years the
early days like as a player, just kind of getting
your body right, getting your getting back to it.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Give us.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
I think people will be interested in just your mindset
each kind of week through camp and kind of what
your goal is.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yeah, so you know the first part of camp. You
so when you when you get to camp, everyone does
the same thing. You you have a notebook. We have
notebooks back then, and you would have a schedule right,
and you would you would cross off every day of
the schedule, like if you if you did it right,
you're like, okay, I got I got twelve more double days,

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were crossing them off. Then you get a certain point
of camp, you just forget to do it because it
takes a toll on just mentally physically, Like it's just
a tough obviously environment to to uh to just forget,
like you're so busy and and so tired from from camp.
And that's what the first couple of weeks are. And
look looking back on it, you know camp is necessary

(11:08):
evil right, You need practice reps to be good. You
need to take those reps you need to bring you
need to build up those caucls. You need your body
to feel all that contact. And yeah, you might be
sore and you might not like it, and you might
not you know, be able to to play every day
one hundred percent, but it really helps build up that
muscle memory. It helps you learn how to take contact

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and to give contact, and to be powerful, how to
work through stress right mentally and physically. Game days are
not are not. It can be very stressful. So the
first couple of weeks is mostly that, right, It's just
to sort of test your will, and then when you
get into the preseason games, then you start of see
to light the end of the tunnel, right. The first one,
again I'm going off of the way that you know,

(11:52):
we did things a little differently, had four games, all
those things. You know, you know, you the the first
game you play and you really don't get playing. Then
you go right back to training camp. It's really the
second game you start feeling like, okay, there's a light
end of the tunnel right here. Okay, the second game
you're playing a little bit more, and then camp tiply
breaks around the second game. The third game was always

(12:12):
the full game plan, right, so that fell like a
regular season. The week in the fourth game was you know,
light practice and go play. So is this is camp
gets longer?

Speaker 3 (12:20):
Really?

Speaker 2 (12:20):
What you get that first game? Uh, you start feeling
there's a light da end of the tunnel, and you
see what all this is for and you start thinking
about your first week opponent, this is a player and
then you know, can't breaks and you just you start
playing football.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
Yeah, yeah, that's a great way to explain it all.
I'm pumped up, man. It's here. It's the beginning of
the journey. We're gonna have a blast today. We're gonna
do three questions for every team.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
All right, we're gonna take we're a look at the
college football playoffs.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
I cannot wait, Jeff, are you ready?

Speaker 2 (12:53):
I'm I'm ready to I'm I spent all weekend all
we got to say in Vegas for a Big ten
media Day. I've been talking for days. I'm ready. I'm
ready to gore.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
I love it, I love it. Where the fellas Jeff Schwartz.
I'm Anthony Gargano right here on Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back, Fellas,
Jeff Schwartz in for Fitsie, I'm Anthony Gargano. Hey, don't forget.

(13:23):
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(13:43):
All right, I'm excited to hear about what Big ten
Media Day was like in Vegas. Jeff I'm curious, Uh
this is we're we're in Penn State country here, uh,
just outside Philadelphia. Yeah, and there's a lot of excitement
that this is finally the year, the breakthrough year.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
So you know, Penn State got the you know, the
media votes right for the number one team in the
conference of the slight gambling favorite right to win to
win the Big Ten this season. And it's a pretty
interesting team because I think there's no questions about essentially

(14:26):
what the season is going to be. Right, college football
can be very simple, right, do you have better players
than your opponents? Okay, and and and Penn State does
against everyone they have. And one thing that that Penn
State that I think is is underrated quality about them.
And I think something that that we take for granted.

(14:47):
I don't, but fans do, is that they win every
game they're supposed to win. And how often do we
see that's not the case, right, Penn State. Look at
their results the last seven eight years. They don't get upset.
Now then we have, you know, the last year, like
the Bowling Green game was weirdly close, you know, like,

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but for the.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
Most part, they actually pretty pretty much dominate as a
big favorite, like it's what James Franklin has always done.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
It's an impressive quality in my opinion of James Franklin.
The team is always prepared for those games. They always
play well and they a lot of times they cover.
They win those games by a decent amount. It's the game.
It's the games where they are an underdog or a
very slight favorite where they have trouble. And if you
look at just their schedule this season, okay, there's two

(15:37):
of those games as of right now. They host Oregon
in Week five, my dust uh, and that will they
will be probably a four point favorite in that game.
All right, that's my guess as of right now. We'll
see the Oregon starts the season and then they go
to Ohio States and they can't. They have not been
Ohio States. It's been a it's been a problem.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Yea.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
If they just if they just split those games, they're
eleven and one and they're going to the playoff right
like they're they're gonna be eleven and one. In my opinion,
they're gonna split those games. And and so we we
know that as a baseline of Penn stations. The question
for Penn State this year is are they going to
to at some point during the playoff, essentially, right, win

(16:19):
the game they're not supposed to win. And the answer
that I don't know, but I have they have to
play that game. I don't know, man Like, until they
play that game and win that game, I don't have
a great answer for whether or not they're gonna do
it this season. I think they are the you know,
and what what has changed about college football in my

(16:40):
opinion is and you're a pro guy too, is for
these top tier teams. It feels like the NFL, where
where you know, the regular season is important, but I
there are moments in the regular season that I only
care about in regards to how we're gonna play in
the postseason. So you look at the things where Penn

(17:01):
state the question marks right are Drew Aller in the
passing game, so I will see you need a receiver
to step up. They all you had was Warren and
they brought three. They got three in the portal kill.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
So this year I want to see during the regular
season how they incorporate the passing game and make it
a priority at times, because look, again, they're gonna they're
gonna win so many games this year just by being
better that they might not even have to pass a
lot in these games. But I think they have to
just do it because they need to see aler do
more of it and be more consistent. And that's so

(17:37):
I'm very high on Penn State. I think they have
a chance to be a very good team this year.
And again I think they're gonna win all the games
they should. And the question is, again, can you win
the game you're not supposed to win it? Basically Ohio
State this season, that's only one you're gonna have. I
think Oregon, Look, I went to Oregon. I think that
Penn State games would be hard for us. I think

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Oregan fans don't think that way. But that's our We
play one road game before that, Northwestern, which I mean
isn't really a road game exactly, with a stadium of
fifteen thousand fans. This is our first road game with
a blot of new and offensive line quarterback. It's gonna
be tougher than the organ fans have given it credit for.
So Penn State should win Nikegin, there'll be a favorite.

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So I'm high on Penn State. Look, I like James Franklin.
It was great to hear him talk and we got
to interview all the coaches and players and the Penn
State players.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
I'll tell you one thing that was pretty interesting.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
So our setup for media Days was we had three
radio hosts basically two producers, and we had a board op.
And there were only two teams that we had that
shook the hands of everyone in the room, Penn State
and Oregon or really yeah, that rule. I no, to

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be fair, it's not I didn't pay attention to it,
but it was noticed that James Franklin and the Penn
State players shook the hands of the board op, who
essentially was like sitting in the corner by the right.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
And so of Dan Lanning. Now, to be fair, I did.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
It's not like I searched and made sure that they
did it or didn't do it, but those were pretty
noticeable that they did do it. So that was interesting
that and the Penn State players I think were the
only ones that that went over and shook the board
op's hand. So it was, yeah, it was good to
talk to the players. James Franklin obviously, you know he uh,

(19:31):
you know, they're it's a it's a conference that knows
they're good. The top of the conference knows they're good.
And then obviously you know all the talk about the
playoff and the expansion. The coaches don't really have an
opinion other than, like, I think they would want schedule uniformity.
They just would like everyone to sort of play the
same conference schedule essentially, right, nine nine eight games. But

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otherwise it was good, you know, I mean, I'm I'm
in on Penn State. Two great running backs, their offensive
line comes back. I think most of them, four out
of five guys are back. Oh yeah, it's a it's
set up for success. But again there you have to
judge them this season off of a couple of moments
because that's what their team has gone to. Where they

(20:13):
they're not They're not judged off of how you you're
playing against Maryland. Now, it's judge off how you playing
against organ how you play against Ohio States.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
It's a good place to be. It's a program, yeah, honest. Now,
you make a great point about the game kind of
shifting a little bit with the regular season. You know,
especially for these really good teams, doesn't matter as much.
It matters, but it's not like before where one slip

(20:41):
up and you're done. And I'll be honest with you,
I like it. I think it's more fair. I think
for these really good teams, you got to allow especially
with the portal now, you need to allow for teams
to gel and come together. Like what you are in
September is not what you are obviously and in the
end of October November.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
So you've got to allow for teams to get good.
You do.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
But I think, you know, I think the number one
thing is is you know, this allows for slip ups,
and it's okay, you know, like you know, Texas Ohio
State is Week one, obviously a huge game, and you
just wouldn't You really wouldn't get that game unless you had,
you know, a situation where you get punished for it.
They're not gonna be punished for having this game, So

(21:29):
I that's why I like this situation. Otherwise, maybe you
won't get those games because you feel like you're gonna get,
you know, punished, if you.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
You're not gonna risk it. You're not gonna risk losing
that early. There's no way in the world you're gonna
be out of it. That's why, and that's exactly right.
It's why I love it. That's why I love the playoff.
I love the expanded playoff. I you know, again, I
know there's insanity around the portal and the movement, but
I love where that part of the sport is.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
I just think it's right. It leads for to me,
it leads.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
A more competition and more teams to sort of be
involved in the conversation, which is obviously great, you know,
expanding the playoff, I I don't know. To me, the
playoff should be about finding a champion, not about a
participation tournament essentially, and that's I think what we're getting
at some times where if we go to sixteen teams
is just to playcate like the fourth best team in
the SEC. Which it's funny because Ohio State was based

(22:23):
the fourth best team yeah in the Big Ten last year.
But they you know a little bit different I think
than what we would normally get from a fourth place team.
So that's my only thing is like I don't want
to expand the playoff just to say we expanded it.
And it seems like with the impass right now, I
mean there's a pretty big impass with like what the
SEC and Big Ten want out of the postseason, we

(22:44):
might just stay we're at for a little bit of time,
which might not be bad. It took us so many
years to move to a twelve team playoff and then
after one year everyone's like, oh, let's change it again,
and it might be okay just to sit here for
a few years.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
Yeah, I want to sixteen.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
I don't think it's a participate I think there were
so many teams, uh, so many programs and you've got
to give me a shot. And for what, say, there's
only seven teams that can win.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
There's not a lot of teams. Yeah, and listen, I
get it. I get it. I want to say it.
You know. I like it. I like the idea of
that tier system.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
I mean, I'm going to watch all the football, but
I'm okay if we're if we say, at twelve for
as much as possible, as long as possible.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
I don't know if it's necessary, but yeah, I mean,
I mean they changed the seating process, which they had
to do because that was that was a huge issue
last year.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
Yeah, and of course my ducks happened to my ducks unfortunately.
But yeah, there's a problem last year and I'm glad
they fixed that in a year one and it does
seem like, you know, there there's two different models right
right now where you know, the the Big ten SEC
want two separate things, and it might end up where
we have to stay at this uh at this model
for for a little bit of time now while they
figure it out.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
Well, we're saying, why don't you lay it out? Which
which one do you have from?

Speaker 2 (24:01):
So basically, the SEC wants a model where they have
five automatic qualifiers, so basically one for every conference. Yeah,
and then and then you have eleven at larges. So
essentially what that does is it allows the SEC against
many teams as possible in right, because that's what they want. Okay,
the Big ten wants a model where you have four

(24:24):
automatic qualifiers from the SEC and the Big Ten, and
then two from the ACC, two from the SEC, I
mean that Big twelve, and then four.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
I think it's ends up being four right.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Teams the committee chooses, and the Big Tens argument is,
what don't we let the play on the field decide it?

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Right?

Speaker 3 (24:41):
So if you if you do four and four.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
That means that the conference play is deciding who goes, right,
the top four teams in your conference go instead of
letting the committee choose eleven of those teams, we're letting
them choose four essentially, and so I get, like, I
get both sides of it. The only drawback for the
Big ten model, which I tend to favor because I

(25:04):
do like the idea of just hey, let's let the
play in the field decide this, is that.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
Four automatic.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
There's not gonna be four teams every year in either
every conference that deserve to go to the playoff, right,
And that's the only drawback to But that model does
eliminate the committee choosing seven SEC teams, you know what
I mean, Like, I don't know if that's the right
way to do it either. So I generally like the
I think the Big ten model more. Maybe there's three

(25:33):
automatic qualifiers for each team instead of in each conversation
four as.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
An automatic because you're you're right, yeah, not every year
are you going to have four teams, and so three
is good. Every year you'll you'll least have three teams
that are that are deserved to go.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
So I so that that's where I started wearing net
on this stuff. So I'm curious to see, obviously, you know,
how this discussion continues to go as uh as they
kind of figure it out. And it was a big
part of you know, of of media day was was
schedules and Indiana's coach got our program. It was great,
went viral talking about you know, schedule and whatnot. So

(26:15):
I it's again good, good for us to have this,
you know, these discussions.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
So what else that's a what was the let's go
through some of the bigger teams. What else happened around them?

Speaker 2 (26:29):
Guys, there's just a well, I mean Ohio State is
literally talking to Ryan Day, you know, just how do
you continue to have that that fire, you know after
a championship and listening to talk about you know how
they essentially just tried to you know, told the team like, hey,
you know you can enjoy this, but you know we
we have to get back to work and listen to
the players talk about that. And the thing about college

(26:50):
sports is because you have such turnover on the roster,
and and Ohio State certainly does that, you don't have
to worry about that as much because there's players that
didn't get the play the last year. They don't have
the opportunity to get a chance to play, and they're
fired up to get their opportunity right to get out
there and win a championship as well. You're listening to
coach talk about the adjustments they made last season. I mean,

(27:11):
very clearly after the Michigan game. They sort of changed
offensively what they wanted to be, which they had to
do because the Michigan game just wasn't good enough, as
we know, and so it was it was interesting to
hear him sort of talk about that process. I liked
always like talking to Franklin. He's very honest, I think,
and forthcoming with how he feels about things, but very
clearly is like a top tier of the Big Ten

(27:34):
that includes the Organ as well.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Yeah, yeah, no, well Organ's gonna be dynamic again. And
I mean that's one thing you know, I'm curious about Nebraska.
Matt is a friend of the show, go back a
long time Rayola. Coming into his second year, he's built
an O line at Nebraska. I mean, I'm kind of
excited to see what they're about.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
So for the Big Ten, the question is who's the
fourth team, right because we know the first three teams,
and as of right now, I have Nebraska's the fourth
team I have. They're the one Big Ten team I've
wagered on their wintal Over for the season. I think
that Roola year two. When you listen to Royola talk,
it's he's so mature. I asked him, you know, what

(28:19):
did you learn about yourself last season? What'd you learn
about your game that he can help you this year?
And he said, interesting answer. He said, basically, like, you
don't have to win the game the first three quarters.
What to do the fourth quarter is important and in
those winning moments where you have to make those special
plays tend to happen in the fourth quarter, and uh

(28:41):
and two minute drill and things like that, and so
listen talk about you know where he needs to be
better as a player, and and honestly, like those are
the answers I would want to hear from a player
like those moment I need better in the big moments.
So that was that was really good to hear. He
also mentioned something that I thought's pretty interesting. So I
do not like quarterbacks sliding feet first. I've said it

(29:02):
for a while now. A quarterback slide first to open
themselves to get hit in the head by a defender
who's who's coming in right to make the play. And two, uh,
when you slide feet first, they actually mark you down
where you start your slide, not where you finish or

(29:26):
even where you hit the ground, And so you always
end up being a yard behind where you think you are.
And I and and Rayel mentioned twice last season. I
think he mentioned the bowl game he got mark short
of where he was supposed to be because of that,
so he said he's going to now he's gonna he's
gonna dive forward and slide.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
I loved here.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
So little things like that make me realize how in
tune he is with himself. And and I make this
point a lot man, it's hard to play the true freshman, dude,
It's hard. I plays a true freshman sparingly. He was
just and quarterback in Nebraska, right. So I like Matt
Ruhle as a coach. I think we've seen over the

(30:06):
years his ability to get the best out of his
players heading into year three in college football now, and
I like Nebraska a lot that to replace those you know,
those those big old cornfread defensive linemen. But they'll they'll
be fine. I think they have a manageable schedule. I'm
just not as high on everyone's on Illinois.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
I don't know everybody loves Illinois. Everybody's doadling Indiana and
loving Illinois.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
I don't know if down is the right order in Indiana,
but just they were so good last year. But I
will say though for Indiana, he's a good coach, Very
he's a very good coach. Mendoza, the quarterback they brought
in is better than Rourke. They have a really good
quarterback from Camas. So a lot of it's Look, I

(30:49):
think the thing for me is like the excitement, man,
Like everyone just cam the start. It's like it's it's
gonna be so much fun this year, as it is
every year obviously, And that's what I get out of
Big tim of the day. Man, Like we're just talking ball.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
Yeah yeah, yes, yes, just talking ball. It's the great
it really is. It's so funny how you know we
all get happy, you know right around now.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
It's like, man, you miss it, you miss it.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
So so I'm a I love all sports, right like
you know, be like I'm a baseball guy. You know,
my kids they played baseball and football, and you know
it's like we just got back. We were in a
tournament in South Carolina and then we got back on
Sunday and then Monday we had football camp right like,
so we started our practices and uh, it's like, man,

(31:42):
all right, I can't wait to I couldn't wait to
turn the page to be like, all right, now it's
football season.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
Let's go where in South Carolina?

Speaker 1 (31:50):
We were in, uh, just outside Charleston, right like toward
the water.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Yeah, and it is is. Uh they're building so many
I have a place in north of Myrtle Beach essentially,
and I live in Charlotte, so it's easy easy drive.
Oh yeah, yeah, sure, our wife's there now. And they're
building this like ginormous baseball complex in Myrtle Beach just
for that, for the the travel ball. You know, parents

(32:19):
who want to take their kids everywhere. It's a huge industry. Man.
I don't know how you do it all the time.
I'm my kids aren't there. Well, I guess they could
be there if I want them to be. I just
can't do it. How old are your kids again? They
just turned eleven and nine?

Speaker 1 (32:34):
Okay, all right, well you know now, like my my
baseball player is, I have fifteen and twelve. My fifteen
is plays football and he's coming to the sophomore year. Okay,
my little one is baseball and he plays basketball too,
but baseball and football is main sports. And you know,
we're in the travel baseball thing. And you know, we

(32:57):
just went to the Shipyard tournament. So it's the Eye
of Palms, which I'm sure you know, and there's a
complex shipyard. I mean, this thing was the dugouts were
nicer than half the Major League bullpox. I was like,
oh my god, this place was incredible. I was unbelievable.

(33:19):
Like missing fans it is.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
I was in Vegas, as I mentioned Vic Timmy to
day and you know, and I came back home and
the humidity is just like yeah, I mean I played
tournaments as a kid in in Arizona, in Vegas. I'm
from Los Angeles, and you know, we we didn't have
the missing fans that would have been nice to have.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
But I get it.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
I mean, look, you know, you know you want those
you want you want to be comfortable and and whatnot.
I mean, my daughter is good enough to to probably
start playing travel ball, but I've resisted the urge from
I get it, man, and uh, we'll try to. But
you're you're kids to the age where they you know.

(34:03):
The thing about that it's a little bit frustrating.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
Well tell you why. Let's say quit t o come
right back and pick it up. Okay, okay.

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only happened twenty times in MLB history where a guy's
going yard four times in a game.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Yeah, incredible obviously performance by him. And you know, as
of last week, I mean, Kim Smith was the rookie
of your favorite, and all of a sudden he's now
like the heavy rookie of your favorite, Which is kind
of crazy how just quickly those markets can move based
off of a couple. And I'm not saying he's not
deserving of the being a favorite at the moment, but
those markets move so quickly sometimes because of performances like this.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. Get back to because I'm curious.
So you were talking about your daughter. We were talking
about youth sports and your dad.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
So I just the thing that I think is frustrating
for me is that, and she's only nine, so this
is not really applied to her, but I know other
parents that sort of in the same boat, is that
you to get a college scholarship, you have to go
to these travel ball events. You can't get it like

(36:28):
the traditional way that you know that just playing high
school high school ball.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
You just it's impossible now.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
And so that's the part that I think frustrates me
the most, is that the system is set up to
where you can't you have to do these travel ball
tournaments and playing these in these things to just get attention.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
And I don't know, man, it's a lot.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
It's a lot for your kid to have to do,
to have to get a scholarship, to have to to
do all those extracurricular things to make it work just
to get noticed, right, And I think that's the part
that I'm not sure that the system should be set
up that way, but I know it is, and that's
the part that frustrates me.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
Yeah, this there's a lot to be frustrated by, even sports,
you know, when you're navigating it as parents.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
It's expensive too.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
It's uh, you know, first of all, we have jobs,
right like, so it's hard to get you know, you're
trying to make the time and do what you have
to do, but it's hard to go to these tournaments.
I mean I get it from a coaching standpoint, like
they want to just go to these tournaments and not
have to scout all these all these kids across the

(37:35):
country and these high schools. So they get all these
kids at one tournament and they can sit there with
their iPad and make their notes and take a look
at every kid. But it's still diminished in a huge way.
I mean, you know, it's it's tough. I mean, football
is still where high school matters, but dude, I mean

(37:58):
it's another grind, like especially you know now, you know,
I was talking to a couple of college coaches that
we might have talked about earlier, and they're not recruiting
high school kids. They're gonna you know, they're cap in
the high school kids and you know, six to eight
kids a year now that everything else is portal uh JC,

(38:19):
Like they don't wanna, they don't want to go that route.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
I think it just depends on where you are as
a program, right because sometimes you know, you just you
need to go older immediately, especially if you're rebuilding. Yeah,
I think when you get your program under control, I
think you do want to go high school recruiting. But
it's hard because with the win now mentality, like you
just you know, guys that there's no time anymore just

(38:46):
to sort of build your program.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Well, I had a GM tell me that the you know,
one of the things is, you know, unless the kid
is an amazing talent, right, like you know the kid
Williams from Alabama, right like where you're you know, kids
seventeen years old, these just ridiculously fast. They because it's
a cap system, because you're getting paid, they need you

(39:10):
to produce right away. So like their point is, there's
very few freshmen out there that could come in on
a big stage in the top twenty five school and
produce correct.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Yeah, it's it's it's a it's a different ball game
now and you have to adapt to all of it.
And I think the best coaches in football have the
best parents, you know, with their kids, are able to
figure out ways to get to get their kids seen
by the colleges, you know in College of sou Spenser,
and I understand why parents fight so hard for their
kids to be seen and get a college scholarship.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Yeah, that is all right, pig Alur're coming up. Well
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(40:07):
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Speaker 3 (40:11):
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Speaker 1 (40:12):
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Speaker 3 (40:23):
My man, I love hanging with you, and.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
I'm gonna start our like kind of foray around the league.
So let's we'll look at each team and then I'm
gonna throw a couple burning questions at you. Okay, all right,
so we'renna have some fun and we're gonna try to
hit each team kind of go with camp to camp o.
Our good friend Brian Baldinger balis excited. He's the dude,

(40:51):
I'm leaving tomorrow. I got thirteen camps in fifteen days.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
No one has a more interesting life than than Brian Balderer.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
That man, well maybe he'd be like in the in
the Caribbean hunting for fish with his bare hands, and
next day it is a training camp.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
Man. Dude, he just got back from Korea.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
He was in South Korea and Japan for fourteen days
and it comes right back from football.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
He's the greatest.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
It's awesome, is he if? He is a ball lover man.
He loves himself with some football. I love it so much.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
Good ambassador for the game he is.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
He's breakdowns.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
In case people don't know. I mean, he's got a
huge following, but make sure you following him on on
Twitter and social media and Instagram. He does all these
breakdowns which are really good man. He you know, I'll
go to him. He's has an office in NFL Films
and he and I I'll sit there with him and
he'll just be cranking out. He just grinds tape. It's

(41:53):
it's good stuff, really good stuff. All right, let's get started,
and let's start. Let's start in the NFC East. Because
the Eagles, the NFCU, the Super Bowl champs, had an
amazing year and it's an they're a fascinating story. Well,
Nick Sirianny is because at the bye last year they

(42:16):
were two and two, and uh, there was there was
a lot of unrest in the building.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
They and I know this.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
They they had talked about, you know, getting moving on
from Nick and maybe even shortly after the buy the
they were talking about getting moving on from them, right
around right after week four, and they had a bye
week in week five, they discussed it and then afterwards
they went on a bit of a run and that's

(42:43):
and then they start to really get get get going.
So it was kind of a fascinating story for the
Eagles last year to go from that point to then
dominating on their way to the Super Bowl. Yeah, i' mightna,
I'm gonna call for him to be fired. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
I might be one of those guys.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
I'm not gonna lie about that, you know, I won't
pretend that I wasn't. Look, it does take a special
type of coach to I think, adapt the way that
that he adapted last season, right, you know, very clearly
something happened after that bye week where offensively, I think

(43:22):
they just decided to, heybut we use that offensive line
and run game a little bit more and and you know,
not put so much on Jalen Hurts, and you know,
defensively and really with a new OC is well, it
does take about half a season to feel comfortable. I
thought Vic Fangio throughout the year sort of grew in
that role as defense coordinator on this team, and you

(43:43):
got the best version of Philly down the stretch. And
you know, there's all this debate right now about Jalen Hurts,
right where is his rank and and blah blah. I
mean for me, I had him I think ranked seven.
I think for me, I mean some people have them fought.
I mean, whatever, you have them wherever you want, seven,
And I think is where I have him right now.
I think it's fair and and I think because I

(44:04):
think when you look at his skill set and what
he does best versus the other guys I have ahead
of him, I do value I think more anything else.
You know, your your job obviously is is to to
pass the football from the pocket, and I don't think
that's always what he does best. And that's fair to say, right,
but he's still he played so well last season sort

(44:26):
of when it mattered most that he does get a
bump up in my book. Right, he actually both super
Bowls he played really well and and it's very impressive
to me. So, uh, Siriani, look man, I think that
you know, he's been mocked over the years and uh
he he kind of laughed everyone's face last year, right,

(44:47):
I mean, he got done last. He's another question for
me for them, I think is they did lose a
lot of guys on defense, important players, and I'm curious
to see obviously sort of how that manifests itself into
into this season.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
Yeah, I mean that's gonna be the question. They lost
Josh Sweat, who was their best edge there. That's the
one position where I think that they might even look
to add is off their edges. Now they have a
lot of young talent. Their their average age on defense
is twenty three. We saw Nolan Smith on one edge,

(45:28):
take a take a step. I think he's legit. Uh,
there's a kid, Jlex Hunt. It was a dread. It
was a rookie y the Super Bowl. Yeah, he popped
in the Super Bowl. You look at him. He was
he He started out as his safety and grew and uh,
they're real high on him. And then they went up
and signed Joshua And they had a couple of guys that,

(45:52):
you know, rotational guys off the edge that they're hoping.
And here's the thing, Vic Fangio, I think it's a
big reason for their success. I mean they were not
as good defensively the previous two years. They became a
really good tackling team, a physical team. Cooper Degene the
thing that put him over the top was that their
two rookies from last year, Cooper Degene in the middle

(46:16):
of the field and Quinnon Mitchell on the outside, had
a huge impact on the secondary.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
They I mean, yes, I was in Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
You know, it kind of cemented that right of how
good that group, that group you know is, uh, you
know Camby and it is and yeah, look I think
defensively you mentioned their youth, which is fine to have youth.
I mean that's part of the sport, right, You're gonna
have youth in some positions.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
I I I.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
Like to see things like Jordan Davis looking very spelt now.
I think that's it shows commitment for those who might not.
I mean, Jordan Davis came in what like three sixty five,
he looks is three thirty now he looks from person,
so that you know, the commitment to to body and preparation,
especially if you win a championship, is always impressive. Now

(47:08):
he is getting close to like a contract year. So
maybe that's a little why this contracts contract year.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
So that that does motivate players, to be fair, right,
I mean that that that does motivate players.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
But I like seeing that. So look, here's the thing
about the Eagles. Okay, when you can beat people up
in the trenches, you're in every game, right, And one
quality of the Eagles have and a lot of Super Bowl
champions have and the Chiefs have had this over the
years too. As someone who's followed them very closely, is
they don't lose games, right, they don't.

Speaker 3 (47:40):
They don't do dumb things to lose games.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
And when you win at the trenches and don't turn
the ball over and don't do dumb things, you're gonna
win a lot more games than you don't. So that's
a very good quality of the Eagles.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
Yeah, and you know you were talking about the trenches.
One of the most dominating players is Jalen Carter. I
mean he was unblockable. I talked to Andy you know,
Super Bowl. He's like, you know, he just wrecked their scheme.
I mean, they couldn't they couldn't block him. They had
to double and triple him. He is such a handful
that allowed sweat on the outside, that allowed a lot

(48:12):
of pressures. We saw Patrick and how Mahomes had just
didn't have much time to get anything done.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
He's a beast.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
And on the other side of the ball, They're old
line is consistently one of the best in football. Lake
Johnson to me, he's the best right tackle in football.
And they are they you know, that's a big reason
why Jalen has that kind of success. Right, Like You've
got a great running game with Barkley, and you know

(48:40):
Hurts could move and Hurts his best throw is down
the field right outside the numbers. I mean with aj
Brown and Devontae Smith.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
The thing works, it works altogether. I think it's fair
to say to question, if we're talking about questions for
the team. Yeah, you know, another offensive coordinator, it's a lot.
It's in three years. I think it's fair to say, like, okay,
like you know, just question how the offense will look

(49:13):
this season with a new offense coordinator. Again, but when
you have Barkley and you have Hurts and you have
the offensive line, it does make it a little bit easier
to make that transition. So just so that that those
that interests me right to see sort of how a
new OC gets comfortable with the players and the play calls,
and that's what I want to see earlier the season.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
Yeah, yeah, I'm with you, man, I I think that's
that's entirely fair. They're gonna be interesting, all right. Now,
let's look at the Giants. Oh boy, your former team. Uh,
they announced Russ will start, So he'll be the starting
quarterback and we'll see I guess how Jackson Dart does.

Speaker 3 (49:55):
Uh, you know, throughout the course of the season. Where
do you see that? Giants? Let's start a big picture.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
Okay, So this is gonna sound interesting to say this,
and you might it might be contradictory, but stick with
me here. I think the Giants this season are actually
going to be a better team than last year. All right,
so there'd be a better team. They might only win
like three games because their schedule. Their schedule is really

(50:25):
really difficult. It's Commanders, Cowboys, the Chiefs, Chargers, Saints, and
then it's like a gauntlet. If I think the Eagles twice,
the Broncos are in there, the Niners and the Lion
It's it's a really really hard schedule. And they were
one in eight last year. I believe in one score games,
and that does tend to like flip your year over year.

(50:49):
They might not be in a lot of one score
games this year with their schedule. So I know it
sounds weird to say that team might be better than
the previous year and have a worse schedule, but there's
a possibility that that's the case with this team.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
They're better at.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
Quarterback just by default, right, Yes, the better quarterback Andrew
Thomas coming back will help their offensive line immensely. Right
as we know, their defense is good, but it was
good last year. They added Abdul Carter like they're gonna
be good on defense, they're probably gonna be less injured
as a team, but their schedule is so bad and
so tough there as of right now, I think they're

(51:23):
a favorite and maybe one game.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
Of he got it in front of me if you
want to, if you want to go through it real quick.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
So start off, like you said, on the road, two
weeks in a row at Washington at Dallas home, Kansas
City home Chargers. Man, that's that looks like oh the
four uh at New Orleans all right, home Eagles at
Denver at Eagles. I hate the fact that they play

(51:52):
each other twice in three week span. I don't get
that that early in the season. Home Niners at Chicago
home Green Bay at Detroit at New England, then a bye,
then Washington Minnesota at Raiders home Dallas.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
Man, that's tough, right, Yeah, So they might be better
this year as a team but have a worst record,
And I get that sounds goofy, but that's certainly possible
because of the of the talent that they have coming back,
the upgraded quarterback. And the question becomes for me for
them is like how long does does does does Dabe

(52:32):
survive this, okay, and then when does Dart play right?
They start, they start slow with a record. They're gonna
want to play Dart sooner or later, whether he's ready
or not. Russell Wilson doesn't excite me as a quarterback,
and I don't think he's gonna do great. But he's
obviously better than what they've had in this situation with
with uh with Jones over the year, so they're gonna

(52:55):
be better there. But Wilson, there's no it's not future
quarterback for them. He's just he's just their quarterback the year,
the stop gap. So that's why I think they're gonna
they'll go to Dart as soon as they feel he's
where he's ready to play.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
Yeah, I mean you're in no rush.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
You start, you see how things go, and then you see,
you know how Dart is progressing in practice, and then
you know and then you make the and then you
make the call.

Speaker 3 (53:21):
I think you're right.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
So that's how I feel that Again, the Giants, I
have under five and a half wins, I have what
else do I have about them? I have a worst
record six to one in the NFL. I got I
just think it's gonna be a tough, a tough go
for them this year. All right, let's go to Washington.
Now they have an issue with Terry McLaurin. Well, see,

(53:43):
I assume that's gonna get at some point ironed out. Uh,
they're gonna be interesting because they added a bunch of pieces.

Speaker 3 (53:50):
They're looking to win now. And Javid Daniels. The one thing.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
I don't know how you feel about Daniels, but I
mean I don't see any sophomore slump or anything like you.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
You're the one person that's everyone I talk to is
like sophomore stuff. I go, why everyone says, well, we'll
see j struggle.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
He's not c J Stroud? What why different situations?

Speaker 2 (54:12):
Why because because just because Stroud did it that that
automatically is no, they're not the same player.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
By the way, I like CJ. I mean, you know,
Dave Daniels is is elite. He's he is a great
throw Like the kid could move and the kid's accuracy
makes every throw his mousehole. He's hard to bring down
and hard to stop.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
He's great at at moving the way he moves inside
and outside the pocket.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
I love the kid, and I I just think he's
an elite talent.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
That's the thing is he Stroud is good. Daniels is better.
Like go like the throws that he is that he
made last year, Just go watch a highlight reel of this.
They're incredible. He's an incredible thrower of the football. And
I think that that we we look at what what
happened to Stroud last year, just for some reason assume

(55:13):
that's gonna happen to to to Stroud situation last year
was unique in that, you know, he his coaching, his
design and coaching. Not say his coaching was bad, but design.
The offense wasn't great last season. His offensive line wasn't
very good. They don't didn't. They don't really give him
the freedom of that offense to do very much on
his own. Daniel's is not They're not in the same

(55:35):
offense like Dale's can do he Wanton in the Kingsbury offense,
Like that's not the same thing. They have a better
offensive line than they have in Washington, assuming ad the enough.
You know, Tunsil comes over from from Houston. It's a
it's a better situation. And so I am still high
in I'm very I'm very high on them.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
I'd put it like that, and I love Cliff I
I I think Cliff is a brilliant offensive mine.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
So the knockout I've always had on Kingsbury, and this
has been true backed up by you know, the results,
is that his team's whether Texas Tech or or as
an oc you know in Arizona as a head coach,
O see whatever is that they have really struggled to
back half of the seasons that he has coached. The

(56:23):
team gets worse, it does. The adjustments just aren't there.
And last year he kind of proved me wrong because
they had a little loll in the middle of the
season and the offense ran back up again. So that
was great to see from just like a you know,
historical perspective of what he's been as a coach. To
see him make that jump last season too into really
being able to make adjustments midway through the season was

(56:43):
It's gonna be very encouraging if you're a Commanders fan.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
Yeah, yeah, now, I I'm with you. I I I
like him. I think they're good. I make everybody's thinking
they're gonna they're gonna drop off the table. Daniels has
that thing. I mean, I don't even get that the
Sea Jay comparisons. You know, they're different style throwers, right,
They're completely different players. I mean they were different at college, right,

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Like at Ohio State he had gaping windows, right, like
he was a different type of player, whereas in L
s U it's a passing offense, it's a throwing offense.
And Daniels made every throw and he didn't. And he
comes to the NFL last year and I watched them
a lot.

Speaker 3 (57:27):
I mean that kid, there's not a play.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
I literally think it's just because they're both in their
second season and people just tied them together.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (57:37):
That's all.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
It's there's no actual logic behind it, just that they
both oh second year quarterback, Like that's all.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
That's all exactly, You're you're spot on. So where do
you see Washington? Let's close Washington? Now, Uh, how do
you say it? What's where's your kind of window at? So?

Speaker 2 (57:59):
I think they were about a ten win team, and
I know last year they won twelve the records they
went fourteen to five, like a legitimately really good season.
The thing that that I that I think is that
last year they were a team that won a lot
of games against backup quarterbacks, yeah, and they're not gonna
have that this season. So the it's gotta be better
in the NFL. Will have spent the off season watching
Day and Daniels as as one does, right, And so

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I think that they're again they're gonna be good, but
probably not winning twelve regular season games.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
Yeah, I agree. I mean, you know they won games
like the Bears game. Remember, you know, there's gonna be
some sort of regression. It doesn't mean they're not gonna
be good or contender, it's just I'm with you. Twelve
was you know, I mean that was exceptional. That was incredible. Yeah, yeah,
like who's saying that? But ten in the playoffs to
me makes sense, all right, where the Fellas will take

(58:51):
quick to coming up the Cowboys and Jerra ripping his
two best playoffs. Oh my fellas right here on Fox
Fellas Jeff Schwartz in for Fitzie. I'm Anthony Gargano, always

(59:20):
fun chopping it up with Jeff.

Speaker 3 (59:23):
Great football man, great sportsman.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
Can you say something quickly about I just heard, you know,
I heard what Jamis Franklin said about Vegas. I heard
what Brady just said about Vegas. I was in Vegas
with the Big tim Media Day. People just don't like Vegas.
It didn't feel any different than last year in Indianapolis.
I don't last year Indianapolis, we were in a football
stadium that was like completely quiet and sterile and boring

(59:49):
and empty. Vegas like we were in a ballroom, like
I felt like an actual media day.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
Okay, I don't know. I really didn't.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
Feel like that was like I felt like a media
day to me, and I've covered many media days.

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
I think that a lot of could play about Vegas
because people don't want to fly that far to Vegas.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
So it didn't like the line that Brady used was
how a city could swallow up an event where you
don't feel like it's about the event.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
Maybe I maybe I missed the part of Indianapolis that
was all about the Big ten Media Day. But the
hotel had a sign it said Big ten Media Day.
You went to the stadium and it said Big ten
Media Day.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
I know that was it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
Like, I don't know what other part of the city
was like all about Big ten Media Day.

Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
Vegas.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
You went to the hotel, there was Big ten media
sign it Big ten Media Day signage, and you went
to the ballroom, and you went to the radio row,
and you went to there was Big ten media sign.
I don't know, like what I get. There's no autograph
seekers that are hanging out outside your hotel because it's
you know, their fan bases are not there. Maybe that's
what coach was talking about, this the fan base. But
it didn't feel like any different than any other media

(01:00:55):
I've covered. I went to the two Big tens and
seven PAC twelve, not seven but five packed ten pack
twelve media days. It felt exactly like every other every
other one of them. Oh no, man, I think people
just don't.

Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
Like to be in Vegas.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
Maybe I think I think I think you're probably right
that it's a it's too far. Yeah, not for me.
I mean, I'm from the West Coast. I was fine
with it. I mean, the teams are out west, I'm
sure would loved. I was talking to an athletic director
of a of a school from out west. He helped
on the Southwest, and just flew into Vegas like sure,

(01:01:28):
I mean it's okay to to give those schools a
little bit of you know, love and not have to
follow away Indianapolis.

Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
For this stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
I mean, you know, I don't know. I mean I
feel it. Chicago just makes sense to me.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
I've not been the one in Chicago, but yeah, Indianapolis
we did in Lucas Ol Stadium.

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
It was just like it was just like it was
just kind of like boring.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
Man, Well part of it too has got to be
it's so cavernous for immedia day, correct, right, you know,
this world of felt more like.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
A media day, like you were, like the stadium is
it just was it was very quiet and boring. As
you mentioned, like not a lot of juice. This one
felt like I had a little more juice because it
was we were all together in a in sort of
a ballroom ish setting situation.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
Yeah, I mean that makes sense that that would make
sense to me because you want a more intimate because
it is it's immediate day. I don't know how you
make a media day that big of an event, right,
like it's preseason.

Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
How do you turn that into an event?

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
Because that's what they're thinking, right, That's that's kind of
what their mindset is. I think, you know, the SEC
what do they do?

Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
There's they do? There's in Nashville, now, yeah, which is
a great city for that, you know, I.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
Mean I would do. I would do a big tam
me today in Nashville if you wanted to.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
I'm in. I'm in for that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
Yeah. The problem is not you think it doesn't have
Nashville like Reeks sec.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
Of course you can't have it in Nashville. But look,
sports is invading in Las Vegas more and more now right.
We have an NFL team there, we have a baseball team.
That's that's you know, the same as finally being built.
I believe in Vegas for the days. You know, college
football last year with with un l V playing so well,
but you know, we've had bowl games there and big

(01:03:25):
games start the season. I'm sure we'll have playoff games
there over the years as well. You know, it's it's
a w n B, a Golden Knights, It's a growing
sports town and events like this continue to add to that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
The only figure is, let me ask you a question,
because you're you go there often, even for like the Raiders,
it feels like it's less about Vegas proper, in the
Vegas population, and more just about this, the the entity

(01:03:59):
that is Vegas. I think it loses something like I'm
with you, like the Knights. The Knights became a thing
and that that that you know, home crowd loved the Knights,
but you know, it's it's such a it's such a
tourist city that I don't know that it's got enough
NFL fans like I still be honest with you missed

(01:04:22):
the Raiders in the Bay Area or even you know,
even well.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
The reason why it doesn't feel that way football is
because they're not from Vegas like the Golden Knights are
you know, are you know grew you grew in Vegas, right,
It's a Vegas team, and so it feels like there's
a connection to you know, to the fandom there. It
feels like you're right with the Raiders, you know, the

(01:04:46):
what's the worst way to put it, like the the
it feels like they're in Vegas, so the other teams
fan bases can come root for them right right right,
And look, but if the Raiders win in Vegas, then
they'll make Vegas, you know, they they'll obviously change as
of right now because they're so bad, it does feel

(01:05:06):
like it's more of a of a destination for road
teams than like an actual big support for the Raiders
in town.

Speaker 3 (01:05:15):
And I guess I I also look at Vegas as more.

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
It's such a tourist city and a transient city that
like the Raiders, you know, like I just the an
NFL team needs a bigger, bigger population of football of
fans and not as much transient.

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
But it's quite simple though. If they win in Vegas,
then things shill change. But they don't win, that's it's
gonna feel this way forever, and winning changes a lot
of those things. But but I do agree with you
where it does. It does have that that that that
thought when you when you go there for your if

(01:05:58):
you're like, you know, think about the Raiders, because you know,
again like the stadium is on the edge of the strip,
you stay in right Bay, you walk across the freeway.
And but again when they start winning, you know how
it is, man, you start winning a little bit, those
those fans that are like, I don't know if I
like the Raiders, right, and they buy into it because
of course all your other friends are now Raiders fans,

(01:06:18):
and you want to be in on it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:19):
You want to be in on it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
And so I think that the Raiders, if they win,
they'll get just just like the Golden Knights. As soon
as gold Night started winning that they had went fairly quickly.
You know, the fandom was there, you know, it's all takes.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
Yeah, but it's a smaller fandom, right, Like it's an
arena as opposed to a stadium. Correct, it feels like
you can get you know, twenty thousand rabid nights fans,
but you know, it doesn't feel like it had. It
draws from the population and sports fans that other cities do.

(01:06:55):
But then again, like don't mind me and that, I
still hate the fact that the Chargers are not in
San Diego.

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
No one, no one wants wants the Charger in Los Angeles.
I might even say the Chargers fans want them in
Los Angeles. There's no there's no I've seen this. Look,
I'm from Los Angeles. There are no Charger fans in
Los Angeles. They have no fan base. It's really it's
a really tough place to be when you know, the
the the fan the fans in Los Angeles are fans

(01:07:25):
of the Raiders, the Niners, right, maybe a little bit
the Rams if they're still if they're still you know
from when the Rams were in l A. You know
of score with the Cowboys, Like they're not fans of
the Chargers. The Charger fans are in are in San
Diego and bringing them to LA And I get why
they did it, of course, but that's not there's no
fan there's there's no Charger fans in l A.

Speaker 3 (01:07:47):
No, No, you're right, it's way more Raiders. It's still right.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
It's amazing how the Raiders still have a huge footprint there.

Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
It's it's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
Well, I mean, they were there for a long time,
and and you know, I think people identify with how
the Raiders tended to be the rebels, right, yeah, and
tended to be counterculture and tended to go against mainstream
NFL thoughts and ideas, and I think people really identify

(01:08:18):
with with them in that way. And once you become
a Raiders fan, and just like any kind of you know,
fandom begins, you typically stay with that. And when they
left l A, they just went up the streets like
they left and went to a different place. And so
there's just a lot of you know, Raiders fans are
very passionate.

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
Yeah, uh no, it's a it's a it's a great point.
And your point about the Chargers, man, I dude.

Speaker 3 (01:08:41):
I just don't get it. It's bad for the league.

Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
It's you know Los San Diego from time to time too.
Yeah yeah, man, and and and they're so good. Like,
I think that that's a team. We'll get to the
Chargers in a minute, but I think that's a team
that's going to take a above a step. I mean,
I'm a hardball guy, so I I think, you know,

(01:09:05):
I think he's got them going. All right, but let's
go Dallas. All right, we left off our team by team.
We have to finish the NFC East. Let's talk about
the Cowboys and obviously the big questions around Jerry Jones
and taking shots at Dak Prescott and your best player
in Michael Parsons.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
The Michael Parsons thing is it's just so odd man like,
I don't really understand. So one of the tenants I
think for successful teams in the NFL is I don't
think I know this is what it is, right, is drafting,
developing and keeping those players on your roster. You know,

(01:09:47):
it's it's you, you know, the top of the draft.
It feels like fifty to fifty, right if you hit
on those guys, and then when you do, you want to,
you know, support those guys and have them be you know,
your franchise players, but also so you want to signal
to the rest of your players on your team and
potential for ages. Really but that hey, man, if if
you do the right things, if you play well, you're

(01:10:09):
a good teammate, you're good in the locker room, you're
good in the community, we're going to reward you with
a contract and all those things that that you become.
Become a cowboy, right or you become a raider. He's
talking about you, chief, And you want to to build
your roster around those guys that bleed your colors because

(01:10:30):
that's all they know, right, and you dora develop them
and you want to you want to be that team.
And Michael Parsons fits that mold to a team and
you drafted him. He developed as a cowboy. He's a superstar.
He likes I think in Dallas like he's everything you
want from a player, and the Cowboys not paying him
is so odd to me.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
He was hurt a little bit, but it makes no
sense why they have been so hostile to paying Parsons.
Every week that goes by, contract goes by gets more
expensive and more expensive and more expensive. If you're not
going to pay him, just trade him. Yeah, you get
something out of it at least. And so I just
don't understand what they're doing as far as their thought

(01:11:13):
process right now. And Jerry antagonizing him and his agent
with his comments over the weeks seems really Jerry like,
but just silly and bad business practice. Think about Dak
and I get it. Look, you're frustrated he's been hurt.
You pay them all this money, and that's a fair
sort of fair thoughts to have. But to air that
out in a press conference, you can't do something an old,

(01:11:35):
an old senile guy and just like venting like Grandpa,
come on now, like put away the Facebook, you know,
like it's just like you know, like like like let's
put it down.

Speaker 1 (01:11:47):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
I don't know if you're you watch the Office ever
in office guy? Sure remember when when Creed uh uh
he wanted to do a blog and and Ryan was like,
I I just opened a word document and I let
him write on the word document. Like that feels like
this is like like let Jerry have some fake press
conferences to feel like he's in a real press conference.

Speaker 3 (01:12:08):
That's what it feels like. They have to do here.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
I think it was like www dot creed, thoughts slash
like whatever, so word and open word documenting, and he's like,
even even for the Internet, it's a little too much
you have to give Jerry like this, maybe if you
have like a fake press conference, he gets all.

Speaker 3 (01:12:26):
I have a system immediately.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
It again, antagonizing your players, I think, is just not
a great ownership tactic, you know, and it's unnecessary, it
really is. It's it's just it doesn't help your team
grow and get to where you want to be. And
so I don't really get the purpose of continuing to
do this, especially with Michael Parsons.

Speaker 3 (01:12:50):
Nah, I mean he's he's a great player. I don't
get it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
And even Dak I mean, look, that's one of a
ton of games over over the years. And by the way,
your back up is Joe Milton. I mean, yo, Jar,
I would be a little bit more complimentary of my guys.
I would make them feel a little bit more welcome.

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
I would too, But I obviously Jerry Jara does things
differently and he has for years, and I mean this
is probably why haven't won a championship in thirty years.

Speaker 3 (01:13:20):
Right, that's right, that's right. All right, we're the fellas
quick too. We'll come back just.

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
In a moment.

Speaker 3 (01:13:27):
Don't go anywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
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(01:13:50):
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Radio and the iHeart Radio app. All right, let's let's
get back to the cowboych for one second before we
move on, because one thing I want to ask you is,
who are they if they stay healthy? Let's say you

(01:14:13):
get pasted, Mike, it gets past this stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
Dak is healthy right now. I don't know. Really, I
don't like their run game.

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
Javonte Williams, who has never been really been the same.

Speaker 3 (01:14:27):
Uh, and Miles Sanders. I don't know. And then you know,
I look.

Speaker 1 (01:14:34):
At their offense and I go, Okay, you know, let's
let's see, let's see if Dak's there, it's better. But
you know, you added Pickens to go with CD, it'll
be interesting. You got a good tight end. What do
you think? So I think they're they're probably better than
we think they're gonna be.

Speaker 2 (01:14:53):
I just don't know how good that actually is in
the end, especially with their division healthy.

Speaker 4 (01:14:57):
Dak is a good n a great quarterback, right, I
mean he's good, you know, I think I think it
in a in a year he's tenth best maybe in
a year right in a really good season, So that
put them in playoff contention.

Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
I like their their young offensive line. You mentioned like
they just they really have not figured out the running back,
which is something that you think that they would want
to figure ou because the best teams that Dak has
had or been part of offensive always had that running
back and they just really haven't figured that out recently,
which is I think a little bit of a of
a of a bummer for them. Defensively, they got a

(01:15:36):
lot of playmakers on all three levels. The question I
have is coaching, right, Coaching is so important in this league,
and I just don't buy Brian Schotenheimer being better than
Mike McCarthy. And that's that's my concern with them is
is I just don't like their coaching staff.

Speaker 1 (01:15:54):
I don't really.

Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
Nothing Shoenheimer has done is give me confidence for what
he'll do in Dallas.

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
Yeah, I'm with you, all right, let's move on. Let's
go to the NFC North so Lions. Last year it's
still one.

Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
Of the the.

Speaker 1 (01:16:14):
The change stories of last season, which is my god.
They were all such a role and just got obliterated
by injuries, just completely obliterated. I mean, it took after defense.
Those injuries. It's it's a shame. Now you lose both coordinators,

(01:16:36):
which your outlook on the.

Speaker 2 (01:16:37):
Line, and they just by the way lost Levi Island
Zerike when they're the defensive linemen are very early in camp,
which is really unfortunately.

Speaker 3 (01:16:46):
My take on the.

Speaker 1 (01:16:47):
Lions is it's an interesting team.

Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
Rights both coordinators and they lost them offensive lineman, which
kind of stinks, right when you look at just like
what you need to you know, to what they've done
over the years with beating people of the line of scrimmage,
and they still have some good offensive linement, but they lost, right,
they lost Rag now, and that does a little older
left tackle. That does concern me a tiny bit. But

(01:17:10):
they're just they're so talented, uh at discoposition players right
Jared offense, that offense perfectly, they got they got really
good running backs, and then I think you're like, defensively,
they're just there. It would be impossible for me to
imagine a situation where they're that hurt again on defense
this season. And that means they're gonna be better on defense. Now,
are they gonna be elite defense?

Speaker 3 (01:17:32):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
I don't know if they're gonna be an lead defense,
but they're gonna be better because they're not hurt.

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
Ada Hutcherson is an elite pass rusher and him just
back in the lineup will change what the defense can be.

Speaker 1 (01:17:45):
And and that has to make you, said, if you're
a Lions fan, Yeah, yeah, uh you know, listen, they
have to probably I think gives. First of all, there's
not a better pants catching running back in the league.
His routes are precise. I mean, he's ridiculous, and he's
so dynamic. I mean, they are such a big play

(01:18:09):
rag now worries me. I'm with you in a big way.
He was a stalwart inside man what a what a player?

Speaker 2 (01:18:17):
I mean, yeah, Now, they did draft a guy at
Georgia that I don't think they wanted to play immediately,
but you know he will. Now I'll tell you this, man,
I really like Dan Campbell. And I'll tell you why
I like Dan Campbell.

Speaker 3 (01:18:32):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
Everyone points to the aggressiveness and all that stuff and
whether that's that's good or bad in.

Speaker 3 (01:18:38):
The long run.

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
But what I like about Dan Campbell is that he
has an identity six to his identity. Right, if you're
going to be a team that's aggressive, be aggressive all
the time. You know, if you're gonna be a team
that's not aggressive, but don't be aggressive, right. He's not
wishy washy. They are what they are. And he builds
his team around the car concept of we're going to

(01:19:01):
be aggressive.

Speaker 1 (01:19:02):
All that that means he practiced.

Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
It means his defense is aware of how what they're
going to be stressed with because of all the fourth
down situations, and also changes what you can how you
can be on third down, right, I mean, because you know, okay,
third and two, what we can call a different play
now because we're going forward and a fourth down. So
I just like that he styles his team around that.
I think just that identity of being aggressive wins your

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more games than it loses you in over a seventeen
game season.

Speaker 1 (01:19:31):
Yeah, I mean, lit's I mean there are times when
I think it's you know, these fourth downs are wild, right,
But you know, I love I love him, I love
his mentality.

Speaker 3 (01:19:42):
We got to take quick break Fellas on Fox.

Speaker 1 (01:19:51):
Ah, good morning, come on and go on, Happy Camp,
Happy Camp. Right, It's right, we're happy campers.

Speaker 3 (01:20:01):
Jeff Schwartz, Anthony Gargano, fell As fifties off today we
come be Alive from the tire rack dot Com studios.

Speaker 1 (01:20:13):
Dude, it's so much fun man, talking ball with you.

Speaker 2 (01:20:18):
I know I've enjoyed it too, But it's it's nice
to that we got to the point of the year
we made it. You know, like we could go like exactly,
we could debate like w NBA rivalries that we can
just talk ball. You know, let's just talk some we
can talk some baseball. I I you're I think you're
a Phillies guy.

Speaker 1 (01:20:36):
I think Dodgers Phillies probably. That's my top of the
n L.

Speaker 2 (01:20:43):
What do you think can the Phillies and compete like
I know the Dodgers scuffled a little bit lately, but
do's feel like they're still the top of of the
of the National League.

Speaker 1 (01:20:51):
Yeah, you know, I think they're the two best rosters
I do. I do wear with the Brewers. I think
Milwaukee's very good. They had keep pitching, right.

Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
I know, I just don't trust a rookie in the postseason,
like they would need the young kid.

Speaker 3 (01:21:07):
To be really good.

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
I think early on, I just don't know if that's
undoable in the post protests pitched really well.

Speaker 1 (01:21:13):
Of course, but you got wood drift back correct, and
I you know, I like their pen I like.

Speaker 3 (01:21:21):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
I think the kids legit. Like I think the kids.
I think the kid's gonna be fine. They're a lineup
is weird. Obviously they don't have the line up like
the Dodgers of the Phillies, but they just get you know,
they generate office Yelich is legit, Churio is good. Uh,
and they just they just kind of like manufacture runs

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and they're like a little dangerous. That's the the only
thing I would say is that they're dangerous. I mean, yeah,
I think you're right that it's Dodgers Phillies, you know,
it's the heavyweights.

Speaker 2 (01:21:57):
Yeah, I mean, oh, Tony coming back to pitches is
such a help for the Dodgers who need help. But
I'm curious. The deadline's coming up. I believe on on
on on Thursday, So we'll see who makes additions that
that will I think help us a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:22:09):
The Mets.

Speaker 2 (01:22:10):
The Mets are feisty too, obviously, so you know that
they'll be curious to see. And I know they already
made one move for Soto correct, So you know, just
continue to see how these teams address their rosters the
next couple of days.

Speaker 1 (01:22:23):
One o the Dodgers that it's you know, it's weird.
They're they're lineup like guys just haven't produced. I mean,
Mookie Betts is in a bad funk.

Speaker 2 (01:22:33):
Freeman ear he was sick though, right, I mean, that's
part of it. I don't he never really. I think
sort of has recovered from from that.

Speaker 3 (01:22:41):
And Freeman was good early and he's had it. He's
been in a funk.

Speaker 2 (01:22:46):
I do wonder, you know, it's something fair like at
times in sports when you win, like how do you
come motivate yourself for an entire one hundreds to do
game regular season I think for them, they feel like
we just sort of we just got to be healthy.
They composts in time, and we'll we'll be ready to roll.

Speaker 1 (01:23:02):
Yeah yeah, I mean I'm sure that that's kind of
how they view it, that they can turn it on.
But you know, we'll see and they just get buried,
right like injury wise. You know, let's you're gonna use
Otani out of the pen, you know, are they? No? No, no, can't.
You just can't do that. That's how it's gonna warm up.

Speaker 3 (01:23:25):
Yeah. No, it's a fair point. That's right, fair point
because about between us the bats. But still, like.

Speaker 1 (01:23:31):
Somebody was talking about it pretty doable. Yeah, it's kind
of tough, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:23:37):
But uh. One of the other things that would be
interesting when I look at it is the Phillies need
Phillies have good starting pitching and they need a back end,
high leverage reliever.

Speaker 1 (01:23:51):
Uh. They could also use another right handed bat. But
I'd love to see Dodgers Phillies like two heavyweights going
at it, and the NLCS go big for class A,
just go go all way.

Speaker 3 (01:24:03):
I would, Yeah, I would.

Speaker 1 (01:24:04):
I think the Phillies are at a point where you
got got there. I mean they were a team in
their thirties, right, Harper is in his thirties, Schwarber in
his thirties.

Speaker 3 (01:24:14):
He had two more bombs last night. J t.

Speaker 1 (01:24:17):
Rail moved to their catcher's so important in their in
his thirties. So like I think, you know Turner in
his thirties, right, Like their best players are all their thirties.
I think you gotta go all in.

Speaker 3 (01:24:30):
Yeah, I mean you think they will. I don't know
they're going to get a reliever.

Speaker 1 (01:24:39):
Some of the names I've heard are kind of middle
where you don't have to give away your top two
or three prospects. I mean, that's state. They have a kid,
Aidan Miller, who was the third baseman who I know
they didn't want to move, and Andrew Painter is their
prize pitcher and who they don't want to move.

Speaker 3 (01:24:57):
So they're trying to protect those two. It all costs.

Speaker 1 (01:25:00):
It may cost you one of them if you're gonna
get the reliever and the bat. Like, I still think
they need a bat, and I don't know if they're
gonna get one.

Speaker 2 (01:25:08):
Well, you mentioned so if they're an older team, is
it are you gonna Is it worth trading away some
of your future to win a World Series, now, I
and you are you gonna win?

Speaker 1 (01:25:17):
I mean that's the thing, right, you have to win
the World Series to make it worth it all of course, right,
And here's the thing you're you're have. So John Middleton
is their owner, and like the Dodgers, they're just gonna
go spend, right, So you know, once you're in this realm,
you're just gonna go go keep spending. I mean they're

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they their their farm system has kind of failed in
that the three young players that were supposed to produce
Alec Bohm, uh Scott and marsh have have not really produced, haven't.

Speaker 3 (01:25:55):
It's all been free agents, right.

Speaker 1 (01:25:57):
Harper is a free agent, real Mudo a trade turner,
free agent. Uh Castianis was a trade, like all their
best players were a trade.

Speaker 3 (01:26:07):
Wheeler was a trade. I mean, Lizardo a trade. So
it's not like their farm systems kind of built this
this team.

Speaker 1 (01:26:15):
Now I realized there was all all those guys, are
You're right, They're all not. They just haven't been home
even Bryce Harper's not homegrown. No, no, right Washington. So
I you know, I'm in the mode of you just
got to go spend and go try to win and
again Harper, Harper needs to win like you oh with

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them Bryce to take your shots.

Speaker 3 (01:26:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:26:43):
Brice is obviously uh you know it's funny because he
was on the covered Sports illustratied like fifteen. He's been
like in the spotlight for many many years. Yeah, hey,
off the subject.

Speaker 1 (01:26:55):
I got to ask you about certain guys we hate,
right like people hate.

Speaker 3 (01:27:01):
And I got a buddy of mine and he's going
off on the Chargers takes the cake down, and I'm going, dude,
why do you hate the charge I don't understand why
you would hate the Chargers. I hate Harball and everybody it's.

Speaker 1 (01:27:18):
It's hate Harball because what I'm saying, I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:27:21):
Know what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
He's pompous, and I hear it everywhere, like there's so
much Harball and Justin Herbert hate, and I don't get it.
I think Harpball, I I think I like both horrorballs,
and I think they are both great football coaches. And
look what Jim automatically goes there and turns that that

(01:27:43):
franchise around.

Speaker 3 (01:27:45):
I don't get the hate of Harball.

Speaker 2 (01:27:47):
So I think that the hate of Harball can certainly
be because you just didn't like what happened in Michigan.
And I think that's fair. But him as a coach,
he's very good. He's when everywhere he's been yet, and
he has a system that that seems to work. The
players seem to like him, right, I mean, there seems
to be no backlash from the players.

Speaker 1 (01:28:07):
And so, yeah, I'm that surprises me that someone would
hate hate Harbaugh. The Herbert thing is interesting because ook,
I'm a Herbert guy, went to Oregon.

Speaker 2 (01:28:16):
I totally be good. He's good, but there's still like
he's so there's still a gear, there's something that he's
got to reach. Still a little more there, And I
think people look at and say, well, how can you
rank him ahead of Jalen Hurts as a better quarterback? Yes,
that I think is where people are at with that.
It's like, how can you It's not you know, that's

(01:28:38):
why people I think you hate on Justin Herbert.

Speaker 1 (01:28:42):
Yeah, I think you're perceptive. I think you're You're right on.
And and here's the thing. Look at the weapons that
he has had. He hasn't had the weapons over the
last couple of years. Now he's got a coach right,
and he's just starting to get the weapons. He's going
to be easy in his system. Now you watch, he's
going the flourish. I love Herbert. I love his arm,

(01:29:04):
I love his I think he's mobile. I just think
he throws a beautiful ball. And I still remember you
remember his rookie year against the Raiders. It was a
must win game Monday night and he was clutched as
all clutch.

Speaker 3 (01:29:18):
Get big. Oh he's a great player.

Speaker 2 (01:29:20):
Well, I think he's just got this said now, because
when you get the label of great player, you now
transition to like the results have to be based on
playoff success. Yeah, so that's how we're judging him as
playoff success now that he's reached a point now where
that that is how we're gonna view his career. And

(01:29:42):
that's why I think people are always hesitant to give
him his flowers. It's because the playoff success has not
been their relative to how we talk about him.

Speaker 1 (01:29:51):
Yes, yes, yes, And like to me, I throw out
everything free hardball because you didn't have a competent coaching staff.

Speaker 3 (01:30:02):
Oh yeah, Stalley was atrocious.

Speaker 1 (01:30:03):
Correct, Yeah you know, and I go all right, well,
now you got hardball, all right?

Speaker 3 (01:30:10):
You gotta. You got a great You're in a great system,
you have a great coach.

Speaker 1 (01:30:14):
All right, now let's see what you can do. Right
last year's first year, I thought he played well. Now
I expect, you know, like another level next year. Yeah,
I think you have to expect another level from him.

Speaker 3 (01:30:25):
He has to.

Speaker 2 (01:30:26):
Now it's time to because you've added some world wide receivers, right, yeah,
you've added You've upgrade the offensive line the last couple
of years, even though I think the left guard center
is still a concern for me. But it's now time
like you and you look at look. I still think
we'll talk about the AFC West. I still think the
Chiefs are very much the favorite. But you know, you
have a really good division now, so there's a lot

(01:30:47):
of competition. So you gotta, you know, you gotta, you
gotta show it. Now it's time.

Speaker 3 (01:30:53):
Yep, yep.

Speaker 1 (01:30:53):
All right, let's get back because we were in the
NFC North.

Speaker 3 (01:30:58):
We had did the Lions. Now let's go to the Packers.
You get it.

Speaker 1 (01:31:03):
You go out and you draft a big time receiver, right,
you go. You gotta get Jordan Love some weapons. Where
you're at with the Packers.

Speaker 2 (01:31:13):
So they they lost last year, I think only playoff teams.
It was Eagles twice, Lions twice, Vikings as well twice.
So they're close, right, they've been, They've had a young roster,
and now this is the year I think they have
to show, they have to show the growth. And so

(01:31:36):
that's the question I have, Like, is is Jordan love
that guy over a seventeen game season to lead him
to the postseason? You know that I think is and
lead them like not just the seventh seed, right, but
like a division winner or even the five seed, like
something where it's it's a year above and beyond the

(01:31:57):
seventh seed. That to me is the question. They have
a talented roster. Again, they were, They've been young for
many years, and now it's the payoff has got to
be now. So this is that's what I'm looking forward to.
Is the payoff happening now?

Speaker 3 (01:32:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:32:13):
And that's why that North is fascinating, right because you
got three teams that can win it, and then they
have the wild card Bears right with Let's see what
happens near two with Caleb and now with Ben Johnson.
So like that division is a fascinating one. And I
look at Green Bay and I go. All right, I

(01:32:34):
think Green Bay can win it. They absolutely can't. They
just have to convert in those moments and those big moments,
and they haven't done that yet. And Monton they can't
do that. But that's certainly how the games last year
two were close, three points, two points touchdown, like they're
close to being there. You know what I always admire
about the Packers and and Matt Lafour is, you know,

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there's a quality to knowing what you are, and they
very much know what they are. They play into those
strengths and so that that I think is important when
you will talk about preparing for a season and what
you can expect from a team, like they know what
they are, they play their strengths. They're well designed offensively, defensively,
They're young and sort of feisty get after it. So
I like the way they're built. It's now this year

(01:33:17):
is now obviously about taking the to me, taking the
next step, you know, I I yeah, I think that's
I think that's spot on. So all right, let's go,
let's go to Minnesota because it's all about JJ and
I'm curious where you're at with the Vikings.

Speaker 2 (01:33:36):
Yep, this team, to me is the most fascinating I
think of the NFL. I know Jefferson got loading up yesterday,
but let's just assume that Jeffers.

Speaker 3 (01:33:45):
Were healthy and ready to go.

Speaker 2 (01:33:46):
So, uh, you have an offensive line that's healthy and
one of the best of the NFL. Went all together, right, good.
I like their offensive line. They have a good tight end,
good running backs. You look at Jefferson Addison Naylor together,
maybe the best trio of wide receivers in the NFL. Defensively,

(01:34:08):
got pass rushers, right, you got you got a defensive
coordinator that that is.

Speaker 3 (01:34:12):
That's good, all.

Speaker 2 (01:34:14):
These things that would be like, Wow, this team, this
team has it right now, right they think that, you
argue again, like they're arguably in the discussion for best
roster in the NFL. They're They're very well coached, which
again is important to me when I evaluate teams as
we head into the preseason. The problem is we don't
know what we're getting from quarterback, right.

Speaker 1 (01:34:38):
I am.

Speaker 2 (01:34:39):
I'm generally a fan of letting young quarterbacks sit and
wait until it's their time, So I would normally be
a fan of like letting McCarthy have this opportunity to
not play last season, but most of the time. When
that happens, the quarterback is practicing with the team. You know,
McCarthy didn't practice last year.

Speaker 1 (01:34:58):
He was hurt.

Speaker 2 (01:34:59):
Right, He's basically a key again. And he was not
asked in Michigan to do the things he's gonna have
to do in the NFL. Now that it doesn't he
can't do the things in the NFL just he has.
He didn't do it in college, started asking him to
do it now. Again, the talent is there, Obviously, there's
a trust factor there. I mean, they draft him for

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a reason. But we got it. We gotta see it now.
That was time to see it. And I don't know, Man,
your guess as good as mine. I think he's gonna
do it. He has all the options to be good, uh,
but none of before man. And Minnesota is a team

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where if McCarthy.

Speaker 1 (01:35:41):
Can do it, Man, it's gonna be a good football team,
real good football team this year. Look at their skill
guys are ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (01:35:48):
Their whole roster is good, man, their offensive line is
their defense. The roster is very well set. The question
is is McCarthy ready to take gone the role of
essentially the big dog? Right? Is he ready to make
the throws necessary in those critical moments as you're ready
for all the things that are that you're needed to

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win at a high level at that position, essentially as
a rookie.

Speaker 1 (01:36:14):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, the good thing is
he could just spread the ball around, right like you,
I mean, Jefferson, Addison, Naylor, Hockinson, I mean, my god,
and you got Aaron Jones out of the backfield.

Speaker 2 (01:36:29):
There's so much you can get. It's a very it's
a very good team, man. That's why there Again, if
McCarthy hits, and it might take a couple of months
because again it takes time. Yeah, quarterback, they're going if
they're if McCarthy is sort of hitting in all sinatars.
As we get to week fifteen, it's a pretty scary

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playoff team, legit. Now, of course, if you're on the road,
first road playoff game, I don't feel I don't feel
great about the situation exactly. If McCarthy's in that spot
going to Philly, I don't probably gonna lose, but right like,
they have a chance to be with like a sneaky
sort of good playoff team if McCarthy hits.

Speaker 1 (01:37:13):
Man agreed, agreed, Uh, let's go to the Bears and
obviously Ben Johnson, it's gonna be interesting is because some
you know of these coordinators who are really brilliant, really smart,
sometimes struggle as the head guy. I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:37:31):
Yeah, the thing, the thing that I worry about, I'm
sure U seeing the reports of Killer Williams is not
doing great in camp.

Speaker 3 (01:37:39):
Yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (01:37:43):
Defense is always behind. It's gonna be ahead of offense
this time of year, there's always are It's it's a
little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:37:48):
Of a timing and everything. Yeah, it's a timing thing.

Speaker 2 (01:37:52):
Defense gets to play a little bit faster early and
early in installs, and offense just doesn't. It takes a
little bit of time into jazz and especial when you're
on pads on like blocking and it's hard with the.

Speaker 1 (01:38:05):
Pads on up front. But but I think you want
the reports to be a little.

Speaker 3 (01:38:10):
More glowing about Kayleb Williams performance.

Speaker 2 (01:38:14):
You know, this is one thing that is noticeable for
me and I look, I'm I'm still I'm not out
on Killer Williams. I'm not saying that at all. I
think it's too early to be out on anyone in
their career this early. But when I play with quarterbacks,
I kind of know immediately if they're good or not.
You know, I I I didn't get to play with

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a ton of young quarterbacks in my career, but when
I play with older guys, like you just sort of know.
And the young guys I did play with it aren't good.

Speaker 3 (01:38:43):
I knew immediately.

Speaker 2 (01:38:44):
Dude, like immediately, yes, You're like, yeah, you don't have it.

Speaker 1 (01:38:50):
Yeah, so that's your sense is tag again And I
get I'm I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:38:57):
I don't want to say Killer Wims is not going
to be good.

Speaker 1 (01:39:00):
I don't know that.

Speaker 2 (01:39:01):
And he has a chance with the weapons they've added,
the offensive line they added, the coach they've added, to
really be better this season. But it does worry me
that the reports are that camp is not going well.
That's not a good sign for all the reasons I've said,
because you don't hear that of anyone else at the moment.

(01:39:21):
Like I I've not followed the Patriots camp all that well.
But I don't think we've heard that about Drake May
into year two. I don't heard about Jay Daniels in
the year two. Matter of fact, bow Knicks were already opposite.
How good he looks already well, yeah, I mean I
saw an NFL they raked him like sixth something. They
went up pretty high for the NFL players on the

(01:39:42):
on the survey, I was kind of surprised. Well, bow
Knicks is always you think about Nicks and some of
these quarterbacks, like, there's not going to be a ton
of variants in bo Nicks, right, So what I mean
by that is, you know, he's not gonna have many
bad practices. He's he's very efficient, he's the older quarterback,

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he knows how to play ball, he knows where his
outs are at. He's not gonna try to do too much.
So practice is most often gonna go pretty well for Bonicks.
Caleb Williams is a guy that you know takes some shots, right,
He's not gonna play sometimes conventionally and in the offense,
and he's gonna have more variants of practice, and you're

(01:40:30):
gonna see that on Sundays too, where he's gonna make
plays that Boonix just can't make. But he'll probably make
some some some bad plays that Bonix just won't make either.

Speaker 1 (01:40:38):
Right. So like Bonix to me, is never gonna be
a bad practice. Guys, It's not.

Speaker 3 (01:40:43):
It's not who he is. It's not it's not what
his game is gonna be.

Speaker 2 (01:40:46):
So I put almost not less stalkingto Bonicks practice reports.
But to me, it's like, it's that's what I expect
from Bodis, Like he's gonna be good practice guy.

Speaker 1 (01:40:55):
He's always gonna be practice guy.

Speaker 3 (01:40:57):
Right right, right, right, yeah, I feel you. All right,
let's say quick t o. We'll come right back. Talk
a ball.

Speaker 1 (01:41:04):
How crave is this to talk football right here on
Fox Sports Radio?

Speaker 3 (01:41:17):
My man Mark.

Speaker 1 (01:41:19):
We have a great production team, Mighty Mark and Brandon
and Mighty Mark. Jeff loves his loves his old mo movies. Okay,
so that song is from one of those movies. What's
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Speaker 3 (01:41:38):
What do you got, Mark? What's your favorite? Good Fellas?

Speaker 5 (01:41:42):
Godfather, Goodfellas? Yeah, Casino's not bad, but Godfather, Goodfellas.

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Speaker 3 (01:42:00):
Well go just to make sure I'm awake.

Speaker 5 (01:42:03):
Hello, senator, could you make that coffee to go?

Speaker 1 (01:42:09):
He'll send me that line just to make sure that
I'm up. Yeah, that's how every every week he's uh,
he's great. And we got Brandon with us and uh,
Brandon producing today, and I want to ask I want
to ask you guys. I want to uh, Jeff, I
want to start with you, and then I want to
bring Brandon on here because I don't know if you

(01:42:31):
saw the Little League story this past week about the
kid from Jersey who sued Little League.

Speaker 3 (01:42:41):
He was susp he was thrown out of the game
for a bat flip.

Speaker 1 (01:42:45):
And then uh they went that team hadn't Field New
Jersey went on to win and uh play the next round,
and he was suspended for the first game of the
next round. And so his father's lawyer sued Little League
and won. And so the kid's name is Marco Rocco.

(01:43:08):
Where I'm not playing in the game that was the
other night. So the whole thing happened against my kid's team.

Speaker 2 (01:43:16):
Right, Oh oh really, yes, right, you you were there
for the whole thing.

Speaker 3 (01:43:23):
I was at the game.

Speaker 1 (01:43:24):
Yeah, so okay, yeah, it's it's it's amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:43:28):
The story went went viral and national.

Speaker 1 (01:43:33):
But yeah, we so it's hadd and Field and we
are Harrison Township, right, and they're both were both in
South Jersey. We had won our districts and this was
our one of our uh I forget.

Speaker 3 (01:43:47):
The regionals around.

Speaker 1 (01:43:49):
Yeah, and so they beat us the first game, right,
it's it's a loser's bracket, right, double elimination. So then
we win the loser's bracket. He played him again. We win.
Now it's the rubber match to go on to the
next round for the state, right, for the states. So

(01:44:09):
it's like one of those, you know, really tight games.
If the umpires are horrible, right, one of our kids
gets thrown out, and it was awful because the strike
zone was terrible, right, but the kid, mean, it's awful
calls and the kid just turns around and goes, oh,
come on, and the umpire throw him out. It's like, dude,

(01:44:32):
is yeah, just give the kid. So that's the kind
of mentality. It stopped the game like four different times.
It was bizarre. So it was tight game. It was
like two to nothing, and Marco winds up hitting his
home run to kind of break it open, right, and
he flips the bat and he did. He flipped the
high I mean, you know, you know he's a good kid.

(01:44:56):
But in fact, my Masimo and him played on the
same travel team together, so and here a good family.
So I'm like, you know, it is what it is whatever,
But he flips the bat and the umpire throws them out. Now,
the rule is if you get thrown out of the game,
you are automatically suspended for the next round. And and

(01:45:18):
the father's argument is, hey, listen, you guys promote bat
flipping all the time on all your Little league videos.

Speaker 3 (01:45:26):
You see kids in home runs and are flipping bats.

Speaker 1 (01:45:29):
So while you know it's funny, he was like he
was a gag.

Speaker 3 (01:45:34):
It's like, dude, you can't do that. And talk to
his son and the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (01:45:37):
But he's like, I want I wanted to play and
so that and so I would need to find out
where you guys line up.

Speaker 3 (01:45:44):
Should he have played or not played?

Speaker 2 (01:45:46):
Okay, So I believe the judge actually hasn't ruled on it.
They just get it.

Speaker 1 (01:45:52):
They just he allowed the junction to go through.

Speaker 3 (01:45:54):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:45:55):
So here's here's my question for you. What is the
what is the Little league rule? Like, what is the rule?
Are you you allowed to bat for no rust it?
There's no rule against it. So for you to as
like on the sportsmen like Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:46:08):
So basically, if you watch the video, he's about halfway
on the first base line and he throws the bat
up in the air to get you know, to celebrate. Yeah, okay,
So if it's not a rule, right, And was this
the last play.

Speaker 1 (01:46:23):
Of the game, It wasn't the last play of the game,
but it was like in the last I don't know.
I think it was the top of the inning, okay,
And so it was like a big moment, like it's
the god. It basically broke the game open. So if
he had broken a rule, i'd been outside of the umpire.
Now I might not, I might not.

Speaker 2 (01:46:42):
Agree with the rule, but if it was a rule,
I'd be on the side of the empire for just
the rule.

Speaker 1 (01:46:47):
That's what the rule is.

Speaker 2 (01:46:47):
Like, I don't make the rules, I just enforced it, right,
that's your job, is umpire of times. If it's not
a rule, then I'm probably side with the coaching player
here that you shouldn't eject the player. Now, I have
long said that in pro sports that I think that
we uh too often officiate emotion. Players should be allowed

(01:47:09):
to show emotion. They should in both ways happiness, sadness, anger,
you know, excitement, like you should we over officiate that.
I think way too much where players get you know,
fined or penalized for the emotion of the game, which
you should not do. It's a little different when they're twelve.
I feel like, right, but watching this bat flip, I

(01:47:33):
did you notice.

Speaker 3 (01:47:33):
The bat flip in the moment?

Speaker 1 (01:47:34):
I don't think it's that mean, right, I noticed it,
but it was less about the like I didn't go,
oh my god, right, it was more of damn we
you know we're gonna lose, right, like, like that kid
is shot, God bless them, and now we're gonna lose.

Speaker 3 (01:47:52):
We can't. We're not gonna be able to come back
from that death.

Speaker 1 (01:47:54):
I know, I know. I know.

Speaker 2 (01:47:55):
People will say, well, you have to teach kids sportsmanship.

Speaker 1 (01:47:58):
I'm like, does not. This is not a moment of sports.
But it's just a game winning home run. Like let him, like,
let him have his emotion and let him be happy
he won. So I probably lean to letting him play
because it's not a rule. Again, if it was a rule,
if you flip your bat you are ejected, I would
side with the rule, even though I might not like
the rule, I would side with the rule here, but
the umpire is making his own discretion throwing the kid out.

(01:48:21):
I don't know if I agree with that. What's your
thoughts since you were there. No, I didn't think the
kid should have been thrown out, And I like, now
I know the kid, right, so he's a good kid.
So I you know, I was it's not important. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
but no, I was like, what struck me with less

(01:48:43):
the bat flip and more the man at home run man, like,
you know, that's the end of the game, Like they're
not gonna.

Speaker 3 (01:48:49):
Be able to come back.

Speaker 1 (01:48:50):
So in the moment, I wasn't even thinking about it,
Like it's all about how you feel about the bat flip, right,
Like for years you're trying to get baseball to be
more emotional, show your fun, right, Like, so bat flipping,
but it's against the code of baseball, right, Like the

(01:49:11):
code of baseball is you don't show up the pitcher.

Speaker 2 (01:49:17):
Though when we were it's changed from when we were
played baseball.

Speaker 1 (01:49:20):
I mean just well, I mean not altogether, Like, yeah,
you're right in that it's a little bit more tolerated.
But you talked to big leaguers today still to get pissed,
like you flip your bat on me.

Speaker 3 (01:49:31):
I'm gonna go after your head the next The next.

Speaker 1 (01:49:33):
Time you don't get I always go with the roof.
Don't give up a home run. I don't to worry
about bat your head if you don't a home run, right,
feel simple, right, just don't give a home run.

Speaker 3 (01:49:43):
I want to get on your head.

Speaker 1 (01:49:46):
So let me be branded in because Brandon played college
baseball and he pitched branded yeah, our producer, So what
do you lining up on this, Brandon?

Speaker 6 (01:49:56):
It's an interesting situation, right, because you want to respect
the game. You know, obviously have seen Acunya ta tease
at the MLB level doing a lot of that stuff
bat flipping, and there's been conversations about it, and then
there's a more traditional way of respect. But then you
get Jose Bautista in a playoff game and stuff like that.
I kind of think about just let the kids play.

(01:50:17):
I mean, this is what they're seeing on TV, this
is the players they're emulating. It's kind of like what
we're seeing in AAU right now in basketball, where it's
you know, they see guys like LaMelo Ball the way
he plays in the AIA, right, and then they're just
doing crazy stuff and grittying on the court and doing
these dances and stuff. I'm not saying it's it's right,
It's just how can you expect them to act in

(01:50:38):
a certain way when the people they're looking up to
are not acting that way, right, So I wouldn't I
wouldn't have thrown them out. I thought that was I mean,
I saw it. It didn't look too egregious. I mean, he's celebrating.
It's a big moment. And also you gotta understand, like
they're still developing as as you know human beings. They're young,
they're not even young adults yet there their gear, their
character is building, everything building. I mean, they are emotional.

(01:51:02):
This is a big moment for them. Probably, I know
how big travel, baseball is everything. So I just think
that I'm glad that, you know, his dad was a
lawyer or whatever and was able to get that adjunction,
because like, it's it's ridiculous if he were to get
suspended or if all that stuff were to happen. So
I think, just let him play, and as long as
he's not like cussing at the other dugout and saying, oh,

(01:51:24):
you guys suck, and you know, obviously stuff we won't
say on air, or if he's just bad flipping, I
don't see how it's I mean, you threw the pitch.

Speaker 5 (01:51:30):
You threw the bad pitch that gave up the hit
or home run or whatever. You know what I mean.
At the end of the day, that's your fault.

Speaker 1 (01:51:37):
Yeah, you pitched Brandon you have you got bat flipped, though.

Speaker 3 (01:51:42):
I have not.

Speaker 6 (01:51:43):
The worst thing that's happened to me is I left
the change up right over the middle of the plate,
had a liner one hundred miles an hour back to
my face and I had to get stitches, and I
had a baseball seam in my face.

Speaker 1 (01:51:54):
And yeah, yeah, that's so fun.

Speaker 3 (01:51:58):
I'll teach you.

Speaker 5 (01:51:58):
Listen, though, don't throw a change right over the middle.

Speaker 2 (01:52:01):
I mentioned it was funny hearing at the MB All
Star Game Kershaw mentioned that he was miked up. He's like, oh,
I didn't some of that change up over the middle
of the plate. That was that was great? A Kunya
By the way you mentioned him, I gotta say, like
per capital of them, he has the most gear on right.
I've never seen a human have more like gear on
his body than It's pretty incredible. He can play and

(01:52:23):
move as a baseball player with like a full like
toe to knee shouting guard and then also the elbow,
the hand and wrists guard. I think he's he's he
has like a Barry Bonds thing, plus the hand and
wrists Like he gets the first base, he's like unpeeling
his entire body. It's pretty impressive he can swing that way. Still,
I'm pretty I always find it interesting he can do that.

Speaker 3 (01:52:43):
Still, he's a great player.

Speaker 1 (01:52:47):
I I do and he and and he's got I
think the flair is good. I know what bugs like,
especially old school people. It bugs it. I like the
flat I have no problem with.

Speaker 2 (01:53:00):
The flavor everything of bass old old school baseball people.
So that's not like anything new, right.

Speaker 1 (01:53:09):
But anyway, it's funny, uh that that whole thing blew up,
that Little league story blew up the way it did.
And uh, I you know, I was like, what's the
what's the consensus of the internet on that? By the way,
I haven't really pay attention with the internet. Thanks on
that player.

Speaker 3 (01:53:24):
They split it was it was it was split, you know. Now.

Speaker 1 (01:53:29):
Uh, just the addendum to the story, Hadn't Field Marco played?
Hadn't Field played? Thursday night, they lost. They won last
night and Marco got a.

Speaker 3 (01:53:40):
Couple of hits. Nice.

Speaker 1 (01:53:41):
So now they're they You know you're in that loser's bracket.
You're going to try to get out of it. Because
Williams Sports around the Corner. I love I love the
Little League World Series. I think it's a lot of fun.
Oh I.

Speaker 3 (01:53:53):
I went to.

Speaker 2 (01:53:56):
We are Little League host of the twelve U All
Star Tournament, and I went to a couple of games
with my son. It was a it was a ton
of fun. It's good, good baseball. Another other team had
a kid throwing like I think he threw sixty eight
miles an hour on his final pitch of the game.
So afth pitch was sixty eight miles an hours. Yeah

(01:54:16):
on the small field. Man, that's coming at you.

Speaker 3 (01:54:18):
Oh yeah, it is. That's coming at you. You know. Yeah.
I was hoping we would. I was hoping we.

Speaker 1 (01:54:23):
Get a shot at it. Not to be well. Where
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Speaker 1 (01:55:19):
Uh my man, So give me We'll get back to
our our teams and going through everything. But give me
your schedule now coming up, Like, where are you gonna
like this training camp?

Speaker 3 (01:55:33):
Skin? You're gonna be hitting camps? What are you gonna
be doing? Camp?

Speaker 1 (01:55:37):
Is hot?

Speaker 3 (01:55:38):
I will not be.

Speaker 2 (01:55:41):
I mean, look, it's sort of preview season for me,
you know, making uh you know, making sure I have
the future wagers I need for myself and just preparing
for everything that we're gonna see it. We'll start breaking
down preseason film pretty soon, right anyway, we'll get the
first game on on Thursday day. So we started doing that,

(01:56:03):
you know, just sort of getting myself ready for Sorry,
you know, we'll start doing some you know, the the
preview podcast and the wagers we like and all those stuff.
So I might go to one Panthers practice. We'll see
my son wants to go, I'll take him. I'm going
to Eugene week one for Oregon.

Speaker 1 (01:56:22):
And Missouri, Missouri State, Mississippi State, Missouri and Missouri State,
and then, uh, you know, just kind of playing on
my schedule for the season. Also, you know, you know,
this business is right, so I have a very fortunate
to have.

Speaker 3 (01:56:34):
A lot of a lot of jobs.

Speaker 2 (01:56:35):
But there's gonna be a call like late August, hey,
hey can you do this? Also, you know how you
know how it goes like there's always always going to
be adjustments to schedule and whatnot. But uh, looking forward
to to all of it, you know, well, I'm looking
forward to just watching film again.

Speaker 1 (01:56:51):
Yeah, it's great. Yeah, that's fantastic. Who do you got
so far? Let's go through some of your futures? Who
do you got?

Speaker 2 (01:56:59):
So I don't I don't have I actually have a list.
I keep trackable my wagers. So I pull my list
up for you.

Speaker 1 (01:57:04):
Here.

Speaker 2 (01:57:06):
It should always track your wagers. So you want you
want NFL, you want you want.

Speaker 3 (01:57:10):
To college, start NFL, then will go to college. So
I have.

Speaker 2 (01:57:17):
I have a sweatinger the Browns rookie linebacker for defensive
Player of the Year at uh Defensive Rookie of the
Year at forty to one. I like that wager. I
had the Chiefs to win the division in minus one twenty.
I think that number is way too low for what
the Chiefs are. I think people are really not understanding

(01:57:39):
where the Chiefs are. They saw the Super Bowl, and
it's it's fair to judge a super Bowl for what
it was. But one thing about the NFL that makes
it very unique compared to other leagues, it's very It
very much is a year to year league. What happened
in that game does not dictate all what happens next season,
just not the way the league is. And the Chiefs

(01:57:59):
have a very healthy wide receiving core heading to the season,
which he did not have last season. If you recall right,
Hollywood Brown was already hurt, then Rice got hurt a
week four, was out for the season. These guys are
all back and healthy and worthies in year in year
two now and I'm not sure you've seen any photos
of Travis Kelcey recently. Guy lost looks like he lost
fifteen twenty pounds. He looks a much better shape last summer.

(01:58:19):
Remember he was following his girlfriend around for her too,
which by the way, I would too. I don't fault
Tavis Kelsey for living a life that he lives. But
and the defense is going to be just fine. So
I have Chiefs to win the division and minus twenty.

Speaker 1 (01:58:33):
I got one question with them. Yeah it's the old line. Yeah,
I actually think it's not It's not that big of
a concern. So obviously losing Joe Toney is is not
is not great. But a couple of things here that
I think are important. So it seems like Josh Shimmons,
the first round off its to the tackle from Ohio

(01:58:55):
State is healthy and playing and starting at left tackle.
If you talk to two draft guys, he was off
of to.

Speaker 2 (01:59:01):
Tackle one before I got hurt on October twelve against Oregon,
And so to be able to draft that guy late
in the first round have him played immediately is a
huge boost. And they have more who they paid for
the forty nine ers. It's still have Creed and Trey
and Taylor and more. It's a good offensive line. Still,
it's not that to me. That's not as much a
Concercus Simmons as healthy.

Speaker 1 (01:59:21):
Yeah, I STI don't need a rookie and he still
needs to see Now Andy knows oh lineman so and
Hee's good at building the line. But that was the
problem last year. I mean, that's one of the reasons
why they ditched games. Work close. We'll take quick to o.
We'll come right back a big another hour of football. Wow,
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(02:00:31):
the air. So lots of lots to tackle. One more
hour to go, as we hang out on this Saturday
Hall of Fame game coming up this week. My buddy
Eddie Webster, a great college football man, is like, I
wish the Hall of Fame game was on a Saturday,
like the old school days, Saturday four o'clock. Now we

(02:00:56):
take in every game, Schwartzy, we get every game, Jeff.

Speaker 2 (02:01:01):
There's no stopping it. It's it's Thursday this year. We're
all gonna watch it. We're all gonna enjoy it, and
we're gonna My rule is, if you watch it, you
can't complain about it. So if you watch it, don't
complain about it. I love that rule. I love that rule. Yes,
you know what it's gonna be, you're right, and then
we're all gonna gamble on it, probably so they're all
gonna have something something on it, so there'll be a

(02:01:23):
reason for all of us to watch it.

Speaker 3 (02:01:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:01:26):
But here's the thing, and I love I loved your
point because you're like, I'm gonna watch the whole game,
and I agree. I never get when people complain about
like a pre like the Hall of Fame game, Well,
we're gonna watch it because it's the first time you
get to see it on TV since the super Bowl.
It's back.

Speaker 3 (02:01:47):
It symbolizes it. Yeah, we know what it is, but
just to be able to see it, and it's less
about the game on the field and more about the
idea of hey, let's talk about the opening, what's gonna
happen for the season, then the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (02:02:02):
It's a it's a symbol that football's back. It's a
science back, and that leads to more hope and excitement
for the season.

Speaker 2 (02:02:09):
So that's why we all watch it. It's not because
we love watching the third string Lions and Chargers play
each other. I think it's beause we love what this symbolizes.

Speaker 1 (02:02:18):
Yeah, yeah, I agree, I agree, and I love it.
I like the can't complain about it now. I'm with you, man,
I'm down with that.

Speaker 2 (02:02:28):
I'm excited for the first Baldy breakdown of like a
scheme thing he sees it's a third string offensive lineman.
I'll do the same thing, though, to be fair, so
I can't say I won't do the same thing.

Speaker 3 (02:02:39):
Yeah, of course you will. All right.

Speaker 1 (02:02:41):
Before we get back to uh, we're going through our
our questions for all the teams.

Speaker 3 (02:02:46):
Before we get back to that. You've got a couple
more futures that you have.

Speaker 2 (02:02:50):
Yeah, so I like the Giants under five and a
half wins.

Speaker 3 (02:02:54):
I think I mentioned that as well. I like the.

Speaker 1 (02:02:57):
Giants under to be fewest wins at plus six hundred,
so six to one. I think they have a tough year.

Speaker 2 (02:03:05):
As I mentioned previously, Chiefs to win the division, Falcons would
be a not Falcons the Vikings to be a playoff
team is pretty intriguing to me. I'm also high on on.

Speaker 1 (02:03:19):
The Panthers this year. I think Panthers over I think
it's seven and a half wins is something I'm on.
I'm on that.

Speaker 2 (02:03:25):
Yeah, I'm on Dolphins under seven and a half wins
as well. I think Dolphins have a tough season.

Speaker 1 (02:03:31):
All right, let's go to the South. You mentioned Carolina.
Let's start with Carolina. You're in Charlotte. What do you
see from the Panthers? So you're bullish all them?

Speaker 3 (02:03:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:03:41):
So they benched Brice Young last year, and I thought
that was the end of Brice Young in Carolina, right,
Dad canals and and Dan Morgan did not draft him.
They have no connection to him. And then he comes
back in It plays much much better football. If you
remember the end of the season. I think they won
four of their last nine games after starting I think
one in one or whatever. Remember that they had I
think it was a three game stretch. They lost the

(02:04:02):
Chiefs by three. Now that game, the Chiefs were pretty
much controlling it the whole way. But nonetheless, I mean
it's a it's a close loss. They lost to your Eagles.
Remember they dropped a touchdown pass to win the game
and they lost. And then they lost the to the
to the Bucks in overtime when one of the running
backs fumbled. So that they're they're right on the doorstep.
I like the improvement Bryce Jung made last season. They

(02:04:25):
added more weapons on offense for him in the draft,
and I think they've done a good job. But with
the offensive line the last couple of years of building
that up to help out Bryce Young. And then their
one weakness or one of the weaknesses they had was
was defense, and they man, they hit that hard in
free agency in the draft.

Speaker 1 (02:04:39):
I like their coaching staff. I like the vibe that
they had. I just I like a lot of things
about the Panthers Right now, I see it, I thought
they should improve it. And so what do you think
about Bryce, Like you're you think that's real.

Speaker 2 (02:04:54):
Again, I mean, do I think he's ever gonna be
like the best in the league at some point? No,
I do, I don't. But I think he could be
very serviceable, which again is you know serviceable, you know.

Speaker 3 (02:05:06):
When he made Super Bowl's that way.

Speaker 2 (02:05:07):
But he can he can win him eight nine, ten
games in a given year, I think. But again, that's
everything works out just perfectly.

Speaker 1 (02:05:15):
All right, Let's go to Atlanta where it's all about
Mike Pennix. Michael Pennix, uh look good, he looked like
he look comfortable. He's got a big arm. Where do
you think about the Falcons? And uh so the great
they got good skill people.

Speaker 2 (02:05:32):
I'll struggle with Atlanta because I feel like I'm always
sort of wrong on on them every year. I I
like pen X, I like the skill guys. Their offensive
line has some really good pieces that Jon is really good.
But defensively, man, they just they can't rush the pass.
I know they try to address that this year with
with the draft of free agency, but until I kind

(02:05:54):
of see it, I have I just have a concern
with it. And so they're sort of a not a
staateweight team, but a team I just don't feel great
or have enough information right now.

Speaker 3 (02:06:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:06:05):
Uh, well, kinds, there's not much at all about the
Saints other it Callimore first. Uh you know, it's just
takes over first gig and uh you know, I mean
it's it's it's it's starting, you know at the bottom
right like this is a complete rebuild.

Speaker 2 (02:06:23):
It's a complete rebuild. I do wonder, you know, sort
of how quickly Tyler Shuck plays And then obviously is
the goal for him to be your starter next year?
Is there a goal to draft Arch Manning or someone
else next year? I think that's an interesting dynamic about
their season.

Speaker 3 (02:06:40):
I know it's funny because everybody's all talking about Art.

Speaker 1 (02:06:43):
And comes out well, I was going to ask you
that because I mean, if I'm a Arch, I'm sticking around.

Speaker 3 (02:06:52):
Well, you also.

Speaker 2 (02:06:52):
Don't have to understand that there's so much money now
to start and there's no rush at the NFL now
because you're making so much money in college for fotball
and you also want to go to the right situation. Now,
you might determine that Kellen Moore is the right situation
for you as if you're he's also no geared to you.
The first pick overall either it's a very deep quarterback
class this year in the NFL Sumian college football. But

(02:07:16):
you know, there's no I don't think everyone has said
there's no rush for him to get to the NFL.
Like the only people that are saying he's going out
or are just like random the draft people are continuing
to say he's not coming out.

Speaker 3 (02:07:27):
Actually yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:07:32):
I mean there is a full time this his first
year being a full time starter. We don't even know
who he's going to be exactly exactly. Although, man, he
should have been on the field by the goal line
last year. She's sark should have pad on the field.
Oh oh, that was a frustrating loss. I know, but

(02:07:54):
you sort of have to ride with who got you
there at that moment. I think, I mean I felt.
I mean, I art bigger mobile. I mean, and you
gotta you gotta call something that's going forward. I mean
I lost, I lost the game. I mean, you were
in the shadows of the goal line. I agree.

Speaker 3 (02:08:13):
All right.

Speaker 1 (02:08:14):
So the team that's the favorite to win the division
that I think should be Buccaneers.

Speaker 3 (02:08:20):
Man, they uh, they just do. It's about skilled people.

Speaker 1 (02:08:24):
Baker has flourished in Tampa and I'm a huge Bucky
Irving fan.

Speaker 3 (02:08:31):
I love that kid.

Speaker 2 (02:08:34):
Tampa is uh has a quality that I think is
maybe undervalued at times. Yes, the Uh they just know
who they are and they played to that right offensively,
now Kristan works being out their left tackle is kind
of a bummer because that offensive line is top five potential.
They run the ball, as you mentioned, they have their

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wide receivers, They get on the ball and in good
enough Baker Mayfield plays with himself and does what he
has to do in that offense, doesn't try to do
too much right too little. And defensively, they they're they're
very sound with with Todd Bowles, so it's it's a
it's a very sound team. I think they're ceiling and
floor a kind of the same. Like they're just not
gonna probably lose a ton of games. They're not gonna
win a ton of games, like I mean by I

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mean by a ton of like over ten and they're
probably just you know, they are tough out for someone
in the playoffs, but I think that they're not you know,
they're not making a deep playoff run either.

Speaker 3 (02:09:27):
You know, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:09:28):
I I like I think I like it more than
you do. I love their skill, guys, man, I mean like.

Speaker 2 (02:09:34):
Love them, like how like you think they're going? Like
how do you look? How do you love them?

Speaker 3 (02:09:40):
I love their skill guys. You know what I'm saying,
like like like as far as like yeah, but I
think they're a playoff team. I think they wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (02:09:46):
Yeah, but they're not. They're not winning. They're not winning
a road playoff game, right, I mean, I mean, listen
right now. I mean probably not. But I just think
they're dangerous.

Speaker 3 (02:09:57):
I don't know. I think they're a dangerous team. I
where would I rank them if we.

Speaker 1 (02:10:02):
Look at rankings, uh power rankings in the NFC? Obviously
behind the Eagles, the Lions. I got to see what
the vikings are with McCarthy right, Like they could be
they could be a judge of Commanders, I you know,
I mean, I love Daniels, but I I.

Speaker 3 (02:10:24):
Don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:10:24):
I think they're close Packers close Rams.

Speaker 3 (02:10:31):
I mean it's Stafford, Helfie, Stafford's healthie. Yeah, you know,
it's sco.

Speaker 1 (02:10:38):
I like, I like Rams fronts front seven seven is awesome,
you know, but I liked him. I think they're well coached.
I think they're good. I think they're like they're underrated.
I don't you know, they're.

Speaker 2 (02:10:55):
Probably probably rated, but yeah, they're not looked at as
a contender by anyone, but for the call. That's the thing,
right they just looked at us like a good division
winning team but not not more in that.

Speaker 3 (02:11:05):
Yeah, yeah, I agree with that. All right.

Speaker 1 (02:11:08):
Now let's go to the NFC West. You brought up
the Rams. Let's start with the Rams, and you know,
how do you like? I mean, I love them. We
talked them about their front their front seventh just a
minute ago. They that front sevens get legit young, talented.

Speaker 2 (02:11:24):
So this is interesting. I think the Rams are better
than the forty nine ers. But the forty nine ers
have an easier schedule and probably win the division over
the Rams. But the Rams will have a deeper postseason run.
The Rams last year, guys with a very young defense
and young experienced defense went on the road to Philly

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and that in that playoff game in the Snow were
minus two and turnovers and still had a chance to
win the game.

Speaker 3 (02:11:53):
Yeah, not for Jalen Carter getting pressure in staff.

Speaker 1 (02:11:56):
It's a legitimately good football team and they're older now.

Speaker 3 (02:11:59):
You know you're older.

Speaker 2 (02:11:59):
On defense, they got Devanta Adams, you can still play.
Their offensive line has some concerns with when they're left
tackle being out I think for a little bit of time,
but otherwise just like and look, man, I'm gonna bet
on Stafford and McVeigh like I'll bet on good coaching
and good quarterback play anytime. And those two together when
when saffor it's been healthy, have just won more games

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than not.

Speaker 3 (02:12:21):
I agree. I think you're right.

Speaker 1 (02:12:23):
And again I prefaced it earlier with Stafford's health because
it's everything right, Like you know, he just can't get dinged.

Speaker 2 (02:12:30):
But the Niners schedule is so easy that it might
not that like the Rams, it might not matter. The
Niners are set up for success because with their schedule.

Speaker 3 (02:12:40):
Do you like there's something about them that I don't trust?
Who Rams are Niners? Niners?

Speaker 2 (02:12:48):
Well, because they're a very top heavy team. Their roster,
if you look at their roster, it's it's it's very
very top heavy. So a couple of injuries like last
year and they're just gonna go right in the tank.
That's why get look look at them that way, because
they're you know, they're two injuries away from being out
of out of it. I mean, they just haven't drafted
terribly well. So I just have a lot of depth.

Speaker 1 (02:13:10):
Yeah, I mean, you know again, you know, can you
count on McCaffrey. Uh, you know, I don't know, you
lose Debo Pierce all showed that he could play a
little bit. But you know, I mean, Deebo, you got
a lot out of them. You gotta lot got stuff
out of him in the run game. He was a

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backbone kind of guy for you for years.

Speaker 2 (02:13:34):
He does feel like your point, like McCaffrey's not healthy,
then what becomes the offense?

Speaker 3 (02:13:39):
All right, it's pretty good enough.

Speaker 2 (02:13:41):
To carry everyone, but Trent Williams is back, right, Uh,
you know Jennings, who's obviously a contract situation, but he's
he's there, and so's Brent Eye.

Speaker 1 (02:13:50):
They're there. So it's a very top heavy, talented team.
They just have to now figure out obviously, you know,
where where where can we find some depth?

Speaker 2 (02:14:00):
What we think about the Seahawks. I just don't like,
don't own situation. He was in a perfect spot in Minnesota.
Now he goes to a team without an offensive line
like Minnesota, without the weapons like Minnesota, cold, raining outside.
I just don't see success left for him, do you.

Speaker 3 (02:14:19):
No, I don't. I. I am completely with you.

Speaker 1 (02:14:23):
And it's funny you and I have the same thought
about the weather, Like everything was perfect for him last
year yep, like from the conditions to the team they
coached or around him, And I don't see him in Seattle.
I think it's a badfit. I'm with you.

Speaker 3 (02:14:46):
I Arizona.

Speaker 1 (02:14:49):
So they're a.

Speaker 2 (02:14:50):
Team that people seem, I like, seem pretty high on.

Speaker 3 (02:14:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:14:55):
I oh no, man, I.

Speaker 2 (02:14:58):
Don't guess is Coyler Murray gonna be something he hasn't
been throughout the same Like you.

Speaker 3 (02:15:04):
Don't trust him, You don't trust Kyler.

Speaker 2 (02:15:06):
I know Ton's a quarterback that when he starts the
game hot, he sort of finishes hot. If he starts
the game cold, he pretty much just called the rest
of the game like it's just not calling to have
in my opinion.

Speaker 1 (02:15:16):
Yep, yep. As a quarterback, he never he's never won that.
Like if you watch, like you pretty much summed it up,
like because when he's off, he just he's games you
are terrible. Like he'll have games that are just he'll

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look great at times and then he'll look completely awful.
And that kills you, correct, It just kills you. If
your quarterback is that Madic? Is play?

Speaker 3 (02:15:48):
Is that Madic? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:15:50):
And that's where I think the colonels are right now.
I just don't really know. Again, people I trust that
are high in Arizona. I just don't see it, man,
I just or maybe it's gonna see it. How But first,
I mean they've sort of been the same position now
for a couple of years now with Murray.

Speaker 1 (02:16:04):
I don't know, man, I just don't trust them.

Speaker 3 (02:16:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we see that one the same.

Speaker 1 (02:16:09):
All Right, We'll take a look at the AFC coming
up next. We're the Fellas Jeff Schwartz. I'm Anthony gargan
Ill hanging right here on Fox Sports Radio. Ah Fellas,

(02:16:30):
Jeff Schwartz, Anthony Garganell right here, Fox Sports Radio. All right,
let's go to the AFC and kind of tackle the AFC.
Let's start out west, all right, brother, because we talked
a little bit about it, you are extremely bullish.

Speaker 3 (02:16:50):
On the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 (02:16:52):
I got to spend some time with our friend Steve
Spagnolo the last couple of weeks, and you know, he
was talking about his defense and you know, when you
have a coaching staff like Andy Reid and Spags and
you know you have a veteran staff that's been together,
they're just winners man.

Speaker 3 (02:17:13):
They know how to do.

Speaker 2 (02:17:14):
It, know how to prepare, know how to play, know
how to win those big moments as we've seen over
the years. So I think there's no changing cans. I
actually think that the roster's better than we saw last season.
And I'm still pretty hout of the Chiefs are used
to have the Chiefs.

Speaker 3 (02:17:29):
Yeah, yeah, I am, I am.

Speaker 1 (02:17:31):
I I liked I think that division is a great
division because I like the Chargers a ton, and I
think the Broncos are good. You know, you got you
got three great coaches in that division with Andy Harbaugh
and Peyton. You got Carroll now though too.

Speaker 3 (02:17:49):
Yeah. Right, so you're just not ready yet.

Speaker 2 (02:17:52):
No, when our previous divisions, I it's kind of simple
where if you look at the divisions, every year, the
team with the best quarterback wins the division. It's kind
of it's it's like a it's not and it's not
every single time, right, it's the time that's the best
quarterback in the division is still Patrick Mahomes and he

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heard all off season about how they can't have a
ball deep anymore and how he's not the same player
anymore and the Super Bowl and blah blah blah blah.
I have to imagine that there's a fire for Patrick
Mahomes this offense after what happened, and I just am
not going to bet against Mahomes being angry.

Speaker 1 (02:18:32):
Yeah, And the ridiculousness with that the radio host calling
him fat, which is like, come on, dude, he's not
He's not fat, Like, come on, I know, I know
it was so disrespectful. It was ridiculous, but I you know,
to your point, you could totally see him getting.

Speaker 3 (02:18:53):
Pissed and like all right, let's go and and and
you'll play that card and he's great.

Speaker 1 (02:18:59):
At a Oh yeah, I'm motivating guy.

Speaker 3 (02:19:01):
Yeah, yeah, you know, so I could say it.

Speaker 1 (02:19:04):
I do.

Speaker 3 (02:19:05):
I do like the Chargers a ton though, I I
I really do.

Speaker 1 (02:19:07):
I Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:19:08):
I mean, I think there's still questions that at sort
of center, left guard, there are still questions to it.

Speaker 1 (02:19:14):
Like I think there's still questions fair enough.

Speaker 2 (02:19:16):
At wide receiver, right, like, yeah, they dropped a couple
of guys, but you know, who's gonna who's gonna.

Speaker 3 (02:19:22):
Be that that's the truth. But that's great. But who's
the second guy? Yeah, yeah, those are.

Speaker 2 (02:19:27):
Fair questions to ask. And then again like in those
big moments again I'm I'm a pro Herber guy. You
know what, we got to see some more right in
those bigger ns.

Speaker 3 (02:19:37):
Yeah, yeah, we think about Denver because Peyton did a
great job last year.

Speaker 1 (02:19:43):
He's done a great job with with you know, bringing
along Boat Nicks. He saw something in him and uh,
you know, look, they became formidable at the towards the
end of the year.

Speaker 2 (02:19:55):
I think just a very like a very quality team,
a team that defensively is going to be one of
the best in the NFL. They added to that to
that in the draft or as we know with with
the Baron signing, and then offensively, you know, it's it's
where do you go with Bois in the year two?
What do you what do you allow him to do
now that he's had a little bit of seasoning, right,

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what do you allow him to do now that he's
had the opportunity to play one year in the NFL?
Do we take the rate, do we kind of take
a little bit of the restructor playing off and let.

Speaker 1 (02:20:24):
Him do a little bit more.

Speaker 2 (02:20:25):
What is what is bonis in year two? It's pretty
fascinating to me. I think Knicks can can I mean
is it is good?

Speaker 3 (02:20:33):
Right?

Speaker 1 (02:20:33):
Like? What what? What?

Speaker 3 (02:20:35):
What more can you get from him?

Speaker 1 (02:20:36):
Now?

Speaker 3 (02:20:37):
Yeah? My only thing is I'm just not sure of
the weapons.

Speaker 1 (02:20:43):
I mean, you know they added Ingram I like Sutton,
is he a true number one?

Speaker 3 (02:20:51):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (02:20:53):
I mean do you need to.

Speaker 3 (02:20:54):
Have a true number one? I mean otherwise you're the
Packers and you get a bunch of two's. Yeah, I
mean you need to go to guy.

Speaker 2 (02:21:03):
And maybe that's that's what you're talking about, like in
those in those must have moments, you would like to
have a go to guy. But I don't view that
as as that much of a hindrance to the Bronco
success this season.

Speaker 1 (02:21:13):
And I mean they're gonna run the ball. They're gonna
be a run heavy team, Harvey. They'll go to Dobbins
and you know they'll use Nicks uh so.

Speaker 3 (02:21:23):
And they're gonna they're gonna grind you out.

Speaker 1 (02:21:26):
Knicks Knicks running the ball much better.

Speaker 3 (02:21:29):
We thought that we give them credit for lost.

Speaker 1 (02:21:30):
Yeah yeah, yeah, they're they're but they're gonna be interesting.
I think it goes Chiefs, Chargers, Broncos, Raiders in that division.
I think it's gonna be a lot of fun. Let's
go to the South, all right, Texans, what do you think?
You know you have revamped o line.

Speaker 2 (02:21:51):
The old one is pretty bad still. Yeah, so that
that does really concern me. It's probably one of the
worst in the NFL. And if it is, even though
I do really think Stroud we'll take. We'll kind of
pop back this year after a really tough year last
year where uh schematically and it just functionally with that offense,

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it really wasn't set up for success. And this year
I think we'll have a little bit more of that.
It'll be set up for success a little bit better
this season. But the offensive line is a huge now.
The wide receivers are back healthy. I think strids are
very good still. So like you know, there's that all
those pieces are there. We know that that the defense
is going to be good right with with Damiko Ryans

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easy division, so's there's a really opportunity. I remember they
were a playoff team last year. We talked about like
like they weren't a playoff teams. They were a playoff
team last season.

Speaker 3 (02:22:44):
And the receivers went down, correct, and.

Speaker 2 (02:22:47):
They're and they're back healthy, so that that's a huge
bonus for them. And again, I want to see the
functionality of this offense, right with with now that you
have new new OC and new new sort of vision,
what does the offense look like?

Speaker 1 (02:23:05):
Now?

Speaker 2 (02:23:07):
Yeah, I want to say, yeah, well Stravo cluck now
yeah yeah, And.

Speaker 1 (02:23:12):
Look you got a lot of new faces on that line, right,
so let's see how that comes together. If it's a
it just can't be a disaster. No, But I mean
it's even cam Robinson, you like him.

Speaker 2 (02:23:28):
Yeah, he's just been you know, he's been wandering since
the Jacksonville got rid of it, right.

Speaker 6 (02:23:34):
You know.

Speaker 1 (02:23:34):
Yeah, even if if Houston's their best version of their
offensive line, I mean they're probably still like the twentieth
best offensive line.

Speaker 3 (02:23:45):
It's not great, you know.

Speaker 2 (02:23:47):
Like how that's not that you don't win a lot
of Super Bowls that way, right, Yeah, I mean that's
just that's just the truth of it.

Speaker 3 (02:23:55):
Yep, yeap, that is the.

Speaker 1 (02:23:57):
Truth Tennessee is about cam Ward. When when we see
cam Ward, well, immediately I mean I think there's I mean,
Lews has heard and out for the year. I mean
cam Ward. I mean, I know they haven't named in
the starter yet, but he's very clearly going to be
their starting quarterback this season. They're they're just they're very

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far away talent wise from competing regularly in the National
Football League. Yeah, it's it's interesting because you look at
them and it's a complete rebuild, it's a complete redound.
I look at cam and I don't know, he's interesting
because I don't know how to feel about him, and

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I don't know how good a spot it is for
him either.

Speaker 2 (02:24:41):
He's like the most under talked about first round or whatever.

Speaker 3 (02:24:44):
Pie.

Speaker 2 (02:24:46):
I mean, yeah, number one pick, not first round pick.
I think that you know, we we The tennis situation
just isn't great. I think a lot of people look
at it and think, like, you know, year one is
gonna be hard, So how much you're going to focus
on what he'll be in year one? It's my guess
of how of why he's not talked about very much.
Plus like the Sander staying kind of sucked up all
the energy yea room. Yeah, so I'm again, I'm and

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the weapon. I mean's just it's just not a great
team around him. It's not on a situation where you
walk in and you're good immediately. I think everyone looks
at it as a as a slow build for him.
I think because of that, it's just not talked about
as much. Plus, look there they're like they're in the South.
I mean, the teams of the South just aren't discussed
like the teams in the North are or just you know,
sort of football royalty around around the NFL.

Speaker 1 (02:25:28):
They're not just not talked about in the same way. Yeah,
and that's fair and foul that that's what it is. Though, Well,
let's go to Jacksonville and for that matter, Trevor Lawrence.
And you know, we keep wondering when are we going
to see Trevor Lawrence. We saw the promise early and
he just has not played well.

Speaker 2 (02:25:50):
Yeah, I'm curious what we see from this year. Look,
Liam Cone has really worked wonders, you know, with with
Baker Mayfield and really with ye Rams and when. Yeah,
so there really is sort of no excuse for him
not to play well right this season. But and I
think too, like if there's no connection to the organization,

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when you have a new general manager and head coach,
so you have you have a new general manager, there
and a new head coach. So if he doesn't play well,
I could see the Jacksonville just after this year, I
finally new a new quarter Yeah, like, certainly it's a
big year for Trevor Lawrence.

Speaker 3 (02:26:29):
Yeah, you're not. You're not married to him, so.

Speaker 1 (02:26:32):
They're not married to him, absolutely not.

Speaker 3 (02:26:34):
Yeah, but I can you figure out what happened? Dude?

Speaker 1 (02:26:39):
He's a guy I thought. I mean, you know, I
thought he was the top ten quarterback. I could move,
could make every throw. What happened?

Speaker 2 (02:26:53):
He's had sub optimal coaching, but certainly possible that he
just isn't the guy we thought he was.

Speaker 3 (02:27:01):
But we saw we saw good quarterback, like like we
saw quarterback play. We've seen that lead us to believe
like the facts of.

Speaker 2 (02:27:11):
It at times, but not not consistently though, and that
that that's part of playing the sport at high level.

Speaker 3 (02:27:16):
It's consistency. No, I I get that.

Speaker 1 (02:27:18):
I I just come looking for something tangible because I'm like,
my eyes can't deceive me that bad. Like when you
see a guy that with skill, Uh, you know, I
guess it show it's funny. You know, Carson Wentz retired this.

Speaker 3 (02:27:33):
Year, right, I think too official Yeah, dude, when he
like his first two years, right, he was good as
a rookie. His second year before he gets hurt against
the Rams.

Speaker 1 (02:27:47):
He was great. Yeah, he was great, Like he big,
had a really good arm, knew what he was looking
at mobile and then he us fell off the cliff
and after that injury and Fowles won the Super Bowl,
the dude was never the same. And no matter where

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he went, he was just awful. I mean that's that's football, though, right.

Speaker 2 (02:28:13):
Like comes in that situation, circumstance and then execution those
big moments and something when you lose it, and and
Carson went to one of the guys that very clearly
like it, it just doesn't come.

Speaker 3 (02:28:24):
Back for easily.

Speaker 1 (02:28:26):
Well, that's why it kind of worries me about Lawrence,
Like it's see, not that he's going to wenz route,
but like arcing towards that or you know, looking towards
that where you have all these high expectations and then
he's just not I mean, we're close to them.

Speaker 2 (02:28:43):
It's fair to expect that that's where he's trending ish off.
Liam Cohen can't.

Speaker 1 (02:28:48):
Fix them, yeah, wild, And that's that's that's fair to say. Cults.

Speaker 2 (02:28:56):
I mean, what what are we doing? I mean, Daniel
Jones are Richardson? I I don't know, you pick your
poison here. I just think that they they mismanaged Anthony
Record so poorly because like think about you know, he's
you drafted a quarterback who needed reps and you just
didn't give him the reps because.

Speaker 1 (02:29:16):
Do you remember, like they benched him last year very
early for John who am not good, and then and
then he's now hurt this year to and you're in
camp like you've wasted these opportunities for him to learn
and grow into the position, which is what you drafted
him knowing you had to do, yes, and they just didn't.

Speaker 3 (02:29:37):
They didn't do any of it.

Speaker 2 (02:29:38):
They just it's to me, it's it's bad process, dude.

Speaker 1 (02:29:43):
Yeah, all right, Uh we'll come take quick t come
back and uh let's hit the North Burrow Lamar, it'll
be vision. Yeah, it's gonna be fun to talk about now,
Aaron Rodgers. So we'll get it to all that coming
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All right, my brother, let's quickly go to the North
while we have time. And it's a great division. It's
a fun division. It's going to be really interesting. Obviously,
the Ravens are the favorite, and you know, can Cincinnati

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get over the hup.

Speaker 3 (02:31:09):
Let's talk about those two teams first.

Speaker 2 (02:31:12):
The Ravens are studies that come man, no question. I
think a little bit offensive line, uh, you know, always
wide receiver probably can just continue to get better.

Speaker 3 (02:31:21):
But otherwise, I mean, they're they're dude.

Speaker 2 (02:31:24):
There's a quality to not losing games, and they don't
lose games like it's a it's a quality that they have,
and I they're going to win their ten to twelve games. Man,
what's what the Ravens do? I have no question sports
about about what they did. I saw something that was
pretty wild the other day.

Speaker 3 (02:31:40):
See you know dv OA right, I love v away. Sure.

Speaker 2 (02:31:47):
The rate the Bills and Ravens from twenty twenty to
twenty twenty four, so that's actually beat five seasons, right,
twenty twenty one, two, twenty three, twenty fours, five years
they have They both of those teams are one and
two and the highest d v oas over five years
without Super Bowl win.

Speaker 1 (02:32:07):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (02:32:08):
And it's basically just a Kansaity Chiefs stuff, right, yeah? Yeah,
So how what do you do to get ready to
play Kansas City in the postseason? That's That's what Baltimore's
regular season is about.

Speaker 3 (02:32:18):
That's it is it nuts.

Speaker 1 (02:32:22):
And then nuts all that success, it's about what it's
just about?

Speaker 3 (02:32:27):
That? Oh man, amazing all right?

Speaker 1 (02:32:33):
Uh? I look at Cincinnati and Joe was just terrific.
Borrow is just just Christy, right, It's just fantastic. Where
are they right? Where are they wasted? Great years?

Speaker 2 (02:32:48):
So they got Jamar Stewart in the building. Yesterday, which
is good. The rookie of the rookie Henderson obviously still
dealing with a little bit of a holdouts.

Speaker 1 (02:32:56):
Or it's not, he's not there right now.

Speaker 2 (02:33:00):
But you know, they have a young defense that needs
to protect the dance. While they went with out Golden
as their offensive coordinator, yeah to the defense coordinator from
Notre Dame but was previously with Cincinnati. It's developing those
guys on defense. What does concern me, still continues to
concern me, is their offensive line is just not good.

(02:33:20):
And I know Joe is incredible. It's not an anti
Joe thing, but it's hard to sustain success year over
year with a bad offensive line. I mean look again,
like look at Louis.

Speaker 3 (02:33:33):
It isn't an amazing you have that.

Speaker 1 (02:33:35):
You have that quarterback and that and behind that oh line,
it's still amazing to me.

Speaker 2 (02:33:41):
Yeah, I mean again, I hate to be the dead
horse here, but talk about the Eagles, right, the Chiefs
for the most part, I mean last year obviously the
Super Bowl was bad, but for the most part, they've
had good offensive lines. The Lions, the Ravens, the Bills
offensive line this year is really one of the best
in the sport and the Bengals are not. And so

(02:34:01):
that I mean that has to concern you a Bengals fan.

Speaker 3 (02:34:05):
Yeah no, in a big way.

Speaker 1 (02:34:08):
All right, let's go out to Saint Vincent's College in Pennsylvania.
What do you make What do you make of the Rogers?

Speaker 3 (02:34:19):
Steelers? Do you have that final act?

Speaker 2 (02:34:24):
Okay, I don't think he's as bad as people want
him to be, but it's not good enough to do
much damage this year in Pittsburgh, right right, it's a
this is a very boomer bust team this year. They
are because of their age on defense especially, And I
guess the thing I struggle with with Pittsburgh is the

(02:34:45):
end game, Like it's your end game just to make
the postseason again and just sort of like hope that
you're good enough, I guess, to do anything more than
what you've done the last eight seasons. Like what's the
goal this year? The goal for me should have been
to sort of rebuild on the fly, and they just
didn't do that. I don't like their problems.

Speaker 3 (02:34:59):
Do you think that that's that's what they're doing? Like
next year they have Next year they have they host
the draft. They're like twelve draft picks yeah, right, and
and it's a it's a better quarterback class, sure, but
to ensure yourself the best opportunity for quarterback, you should
have been bad this season.

Speaker 2 (02:35:19):
And that's not what they're doing. So they have to
trade up to get a probably to get a quarterback
they want, is what I guess. And you can do that.

Speaker 1 (02:35:28):
It's possible because no guarantee someone's gonna trade with you.

Speaker 3 (02:35:32):
No, but you got a lot of ammunition. You're you're
gonna be aggressive.

Speaker 1 (02:35:39):
You got a foundation around, like once you get the quarterback,
you know again you're gonna get the right one and everything.
But if you get the quarterback, you still have a foundation. Sure,
a rookie deal.

Speaker 2 (02:35:51):
Yeah, but the thing is like who okay, so who
are you found? What's your foundation and offense with a
rookie quarterback? It's is DK Metcalf and Calvin Austin and
and and some of the young offensive linemen there I
think are going to be good, Okay, I mean it
is Johnny Smith. Part of that foundation is frying with.
I mean there's again there's question marks I think about
like what does it actually look like? As for what
like what does your foundation actually look like?

Speaker 3 (02:36:13):
Well, and I think they'll take it this year.

Speaker 1 (02:36:15):
Defensively, they're older, but I think this year they're gonna
look at it and go, all right, you know, this
is kind of who we like, and then how we'll
kind of build it with a young quarterback. You're giving
a lot, You're giving a lot of a lot of
faith here, a lot of trust.

Speaker 3 (02:36:31):
I mean, I mean, listen, do I think they're a
playoff team? Though?

Speaker 1 (02:36:34):
Do I you know, do I think they even win?
You know, you know, they may not win. They're probably
not gonna win more than eight games. You're a tough schedule.
The back part of your schedule is nasty. So but
I'm just saying, I'm looking at it and I'm going
I think this is their mindset.

Speaker 3 (02:36:52):
I'm just trying to get into their mindset.

Speaker 2 (02:36:54):
Well, yeah, their mindset is I think if everything works right,
we're going to hit a home run with all this stuff.
I just it feels unlikely for it to work, right,
That's my that's my point.

Speaker 3 (02:37:05):
Yeah, I mean their schedule is pretty nasty. You see
you see these schedules.

Speaker 2 (02:37:09):
Yeah, it's I mean, they're playing a tough division. That
makes it even tougher, you.

Speaker 1 (02:37:12):
Know, right, right right right, tough division and the schedule
is is just it's just a beast, so, you know,
I don't know how many gates, you know, And again
I don't know how. You know, I think you're right
in that Roger is going to be better. You just
got to figure out, you know, how competitive they're going
to be. And then in the East because we're running

(02:37:32):
out of time.

Speaker 3 (02:37:32):
But in the.

Speaker 1 (02:37:33):
East it's it's Buffalo man, It's it's Sean, It's McDermott
and Josh Allen.

Speaker 3 (02:37:40):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (02:37:40):
And I think I feels like people are scared hid
the Patriots right now. I don't know what they've done
to earn that, to earn that praise, you know. Yeah,
Drake May had moments last year where he was really good.
Vrabel has shown the ability to be a really good coach,
but there's a lot so much unknown on the offense.
So I don't know how people seem so high on them.
And I just don't know if that's if we should

(02:38:01):
be that high on New England right now.

Speaker 3 (02:38:03):
Yeah, I think that's the Fools gold team. Every every
year there's.

Speaker 1 (02:38:08):
A Fools that people love, and I think that's the Patriots.

Speaker 3 (02:38:14):
First of all, you got to.

Speaker 1 (02:38:15):
Give ray Ball a minute to turn things around. Yeah,
to build it, you got to give him a minute.
I'm sorry, I'm with you, strong agree.

Speaker 3 (02:38:26):
You know, I look at him and I go, you know,
I don't like do you like the off offensive line questions?

Speaker 1 (02:38:34):
Right? Questions about questions about you know what wide receiver? Right?

Speaker 2 (02:38:40):
Who are the guys gonna step up in those moments?

Speaker 1 (02:38:43):
So you got digs, but like I don't even know
what his third team in like three years? I mean,
how how good is he? How good is he? Actually?

Speaker 3 (02:38:54):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, it's fair. It's fair.

Speaker 1 (02:38:58):
And and by the way, like the Drake May thing,
I you know, I got a lot to see it.
I need a lot. I need to see a lot
more from Drake May before I'm all giddy over the Patriots. Buddy.

Speaker 2 (02:39:12):
Yes, I'm struggling with you there. You won't if you
won't have any you won't have any disagreement with me
on the Patriots stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:39:20):
Poor Jets are dead and the dolphin stink. So that's
that's the that's the league. Uh my problem. I gotta
tell you I had a blast with you again. Yes, yeah, dude,
you are You are a terrific thanks for your family. Hopefully,
hopefully we do it again soon. Everybody, have a great week.
Football's back, enjoy it. See you next Saturday.

Speaker 3 (02:39:43):
We love you.

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