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August 10, 2025 121 mins

Brian Noe, Geoff Schwartz, and Bill Krackomberger talk the incredibly solid debuts for Shedeur Sanders, Cam Ward, & Jaxson Dart in the preseason, JJ McCarthy's up and down performance back from injury, Anthony Richardson already getting hurt yet again, first MLB female umpire, and more! Plus, we have Parlay Platter, Prop It Up, and Rapid Fire!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Sports Countdown, brought to you by The Sports Look Born
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Fox Sports Radio studios. Here's Brian No, Jeff Schwartz, and
Bail Crack Cracken Burger.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Oh, what's going on? Welcome in, Happy Sunday to you.
Hope things are fantastic in your world.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Good morning, Jeff's good morning, Crack everything good.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Thumbs up all across the board. I'm hoping yes.

Speaker 4 (00:32):
I think they just scored another touchdown in a preseason
game in the fourth quarter with two minutes left to
go to ruin a wager. Otherwise, I feel great. Otherwise
things are going great. But Brian, the mount points scored
in these games over the last two days is astronomical.
It is wild. How much score are we getting the
preseason so far?

Speaker 5 (00:50):
Yeah, unbelievable, it really is. It sound like it's not
like unlike we ever seen him. Mean, last year was
kind of the same the first weekend. So yeah, coming
off a weekend, we're you know, we're very transparent here. Listen.
I've probably had three years in a row. Every three
weeks or four weeks. It was a four week season.

(01:11):
I probably had like elevens weekends in a row of
winning preseason football, so uh, this was the first one
that was just terrible, and it was just full of
and I hate to use bad beats, but full of
bad beats. The Buffalo game plus three was really the worst, uh,
probably the worst one that I've experienced in a long time.

(01:31):
And that was and the snap over the head. All
he has to do is jump on the ball and
uh and then and then to get down the other way,
and then to get down to the goal line and
just uh first and goal to three four shots to
get in. They get in on fourth and goal and
they have to they review it and call it back

(01:51):
and all that time wasted on a preseason game, and
it just was, uh. The swing of money was ridiculous
for me, for my followers, and then Jared Smith's in
our chat saying I had the Giants plus three.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yeah, you gotta love that, right. It's always I swear,
it never fails, the day that you cannot get anything right,
nothing goes your way. You've got that friend that's like,
it was an awesome day for me, and you're like,
this isn't a time for that.

Speaker 5 (02:22):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (02:24):
It happens without fail.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
The Buffalo thing is interesting because, like there are limited
camera angles in preseason, and the way it's supposed to interpreted,
right is like indisputable video evidence. I think he was
probably short of the end zone. They that's the way
they ruled it, But there wasn't video evidence to show it. Brian, Yeah,
like there wasn't. I mean, just if we're going off

(02:48):
of what like how it's supposed to be ruled, there wasn't.
There was no camera down, you know, down the end line.
What all about preseason two? People just don't understand this.
I think are they doing to get they get caught
off guard every year? Is that? You know, the preseason
broadcast the nf ON network is most of the time
just a local broadcast. So in the preseason, each city

(03:10):
has their own broadcast, right, Like the Panthers game was
the Panthers crew, and the Browns have their crew, right
like that was a game on Thursday Night. I actually
think the national feed was the Browns crew. But a
lot of time, most of times it's the home team.
So you know, you're in the middle of watching these
games and they're doing their home team broad they might
miss an entire series interviewing a player on the sideline,
I had no idea what's happening, Like there's there's, you know,

(03:34):
interesting thing happening on the field, like a replay but
for the other team, right, and they just don't show
it because they just don't care if the other team
has something good happen to them. And you're like, I
want to see the replay and you see if we
score or not or what happens. And so it's very
fun to watch these broadcasts with the idea that like, hey,
it's not really geared for me, it's geared for the
other team. And also it's geared for that that fan base,

(03:55):
like we're gonna get Dolphins bears. Here your your your
dolphin at one o'clock. Brian, I don't. I think. I'm
just it's gonna be the bearest broadcast in the NFL network.
I don't think. I don't think it's a special. Now
they will do in week two start doing some national games,
which actually like they let the guys that are on
ESPN and Fox and those guys get some warm up reps.

(04:16):
But for the most part, it's local broadcasts, and also
it's it's also those guys opportunity for them to practice essentially,
so you have like random groupings of announcers together. They
always find that funny, like you just have, you know,
like Iron Ego and Trent Green. I think do Chiefs
games on TV just to get some warm up reps

(04:37):
before the season starts.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
Well, Crac, you mentioned points a lot of points in
these and a couple of games at least with their
starting quarterbacks leading touchdown drives. That would be the Browns
with Shador Sanders, that'd be the Titans with cam Ward.
We've saw both those rookie quarterbacks get extensive play in
the preseason and if you look at Shador two touchdown

(05:00):
drives through two touchdown passes, it played pretty well all
things considered. And also cam Ward the number one overall pick,
he let a touchdown drive good and bad.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
A little bit of a mixed.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
Bag with him, but overall, I'd say a positive And
it's funny before we dive into both of those players,
Shauduur and cam Ward. Isn't it amazing where a fifth
round pick is a way bigger story than the number
one overall pick. Can you say that ever in the
history of the NFL that's a legitimate question going into

(05:35):
like the beginning of the season, not a year five
or whatever.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
But dom Brad's pretty big deal is a sixth round pick.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
But going into the beginning of the season, when has
there ever been a case where a fifth rounder and listen,
Shador Sanders much more talented than a fifth round pick,
But when has there ever been a storyline where a
fifth rounder is like this mega story and it's like, oh,
by the way, the first overall pick, like cam Ward's
almost a non story nationally compared to Shadur.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
It's wild.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
I'm never say anything like it, Brian. You know last
night cam Ward played, it wasn't the national NFL Network
game that was That was Packers Jets. I'm I guess
I get it because of of Chadur. But you're exactly right.
I mean, this is he is the number one in
the draft and no one really seems to care. And

(06:28):
you know, you know, if you didn't have the local
broadcast last night, I didn't see cam Ward play, and
it wasn't on TV. It was it was the other
It was Jets and UH and Jets and Packers. I
don't know, I don't know why, you know, they're just
there's just not at tension toward him right now. It's
all sucked up by by Sanders and some of these
second year guys that you know have got opportunity to

(06:49):
play and sort of you know J. J. McCarthy obviously
national sort of game yesterday as well. So whatever reason,
cam Ward Man is just not someone that you know,
people seem interested about.

Speaker 5 (07:02):
Yeah, you know he cam Ward started off with a
uh a quick three and out, but he showed why
he was the first pick on his second drive. I mean,
he looked pretty impressive in the pocket, you know, taking
the Titans for a touchdown on an eleven play drive.
I don't know what the Titans, you know, I really
don't know what the Titans ceiling is this year first,

(07:22):
but I think we have a I really think we
have a superstar quarterback in the making here with him though,
But he didn't get the of course, all the attention
was on Sanders, and he looked pretty solid too, for
it being his first real real time NFL game. He
looked poised out there and showed some good accuracy what
his passes look. He wasn't he wasn't rated the top

(07:43):
pick in the draft. A year ago for no reason.
He's obviously has the tools to be an NFL quarterback.
It was a question about his character and his off
the field stuff that dropped him to the like you said,
the fifth round. I really have no questions about his
physical abilities. They just hope he does the right things
off the field to be successful. You know, I'm actually
root for both of these guys.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yeah, it was weird. The thing with cam Ward.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
I thought, like you crack, I thought, overall, he played
pretty well, and I watched it like I have NFL Plus.
I've had that for a long time, and you can
just basically pick whatever game you want to watch on
your tablet or whatever.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
So I was.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
Watching cam Ward and Tennessee and what was crazy was
they never showed it on Sports Center. It's like cam
Ward had a couple of really nice throws to Calvin Ridley,
did some nice things, and then there was just this
one throw where he threw it directly to the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers and they just dropped it. And I'm like,
how do they not show that on the little highlight package?

(08:41):
He threw eight passes, how did they not show that one?
They just chose not to But that's the question I
have about cam Ward is especially when you look at
him last year at Miami, he had some unbelievable plays,
really talented player, and then he would have a cup
of throws each game where you're like, buddy, what what

(09:03):
was going on?

Speaker 2 (09:04):
What's going on?

Speaker 5 (09:05):
Or was that?

Speaker 3 (09:06):
So that's what the big question for cam Ward is,
I think is that consistency. You saw it a little
bit if you're watching the Kyler Murray mahomes you know
Arizona Kansas City, the one incompleation incompletion that Kyler Murray had.
He just didn't see a Kansas City defender.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
Through it right to him. Interception.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
This his only is only incompletion well you know his
whole time, but it was that one big mistake, And
that's the question. Can cam Ward limit those big mistakes
early on?

Speaker 6 (09:38):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
I'm not sure that he's going to that.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
The Kulambary interception is unacceptable for a player of his caliber.
So this is this is the time you have a discussion. Okay,
here's what the preseason is about. For me. Okay, is
does it look like it should right? So what does
that mean? It means that Kyler Murray is playing at
that time. I think the Chiefs starting defense, it was

(10:01):
starters for starters for a little bit of time in Arizona.
Kyler Murray is in his sixth year. He can't make
that throw, Brian. That was horrendous, Like there was no
one there. There's a Chief defender sitting right there. He
has to know better than that. And of course mistakes
are allowed. But that wasn't good. Okay, But I think
that the better example is this. So the Bengals starters
played against the Eagles backups, okay, and the Bengals offense

(10:26):
scored easily on two drives. That's what they should do.
They're playing the backup, so just check the box. Good job,
Bengals checked the box. On the flip side, the Bengals
defense got gashed by the Eagles backup offense. Red flag
goes up, right, Like, why is that? You look at
Jajim McCarthy yesterday, first team offense for the Vikings, mostly

(10:48):
first assuming second string defense with the Texans, it looked
like it looked like it should right. This brings me
Trisian Jura Sanders. Okay, so he's a fifth round pick,
right who we know is more talented than a fifth
round pick. He was playing with backups against mostly backups.
After the first drive, I believe after the Panther took

(11:10):
the Stars out, he looked like a player who is
more talented than where he was drafted. But that's what
we expect of Sanders anyways, right, So to me, it's
just you check that box he did in game one
against the backups. He was playing with backups. I think
he did an admirable job. You check that box. It's

(11:31):
nothing deeper than that, and then you move on to
week two and you hope he gets competition that's better
to test himself against better competition. It's okay to say
two things at the same time. Hey, acknowledge it was good,
but acknowledge that he's playing. He played against guys that
are not going to be in the foot in the
National Football League in three weeks. That's not real football, right.
So to me, it's check the box for a lot

(11:53):
of these things. Check check Okay, yep, yep, that's what
looks like it should check that box. Check that box,
check that box, red flag. Bengals defense don't really like it.
That's the way I look at today's game too, and
and I don't know how much I don't do is
playing is he Brian is?

Speaker 3 (12:07):
I'm not sure he's gonna get any playing time he
wants to.

Speaker 4 (12:10):
Yeah, yeah, well, I mean after those interceptions in practice,
I would want to to, you know, like, does it
look like it should for the Dolphins offense? You know,
does Kayleb Williams play today? Doesn't look like it should?
That's that's my That's really how easy I look at
the preseason. I don't It's not much deeper than that. Brian,
people get so into it. I'm no, just take it
for what it is.

Speaker 5 (12:31):
Yeah, no, I I I agree. I agree with you.
There we uh this this uh, yesterday was a really
tough day for me. I usually don't have tough days
where I like after that that first game, uh, the
Bills game, I went, I went, I went out and
just stayed out of the pool for like four or
five hours. I usually an hour an hour and I'm

(12:51):
done hour. I'm done for the day. Even my wife said,
what's going on out here? I said, no, I'm just
what the dog just hanging out like I I mean,
you can't tell your wife anything. Like I put a
post up because it's funny. When I had that giant
swing on that game, she was texting me from the
new Costco that opened up. You don't can believe this.

(13:12):
The gas prices are great here. I just had a
twenty one thousand dollars swing on the game. Like, okay,
that's great. And you know, you have to be nice
because she doesn't know anything, you know, see my wife.
One thing about my wife, I don't tell her anything.
I don't tell her about But that also means I
don't tell her about those thirteen or fourteen winning weekends
of preseason football too. But I don't say anything. I said, oh,

(13:35):
it's great. She was, yes, it's unbelievable. It's like ten
cents less a gallon. Maybe it's just a grand open.
And I said, oh, okay, dear, yeah, nice, get the gas.
I hang up the hang up the phone. I'm thinking
to myself, wow, that was about three grocery dollars we saved.
I was just and I'm just like, I have to
put a tweet up. I'm sure some people can relate.
And I never put tweets up about me losing or

(13:58):
me relating to that crime, or you know, getting mad
or upset, but just one of those preseasons on our
hands here.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
How about that crack which is worse, which is where
is it where you have the bad day twenty one
thousand dollars swing and one of your buddies is like,
I just had a big.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Win, and you're like, oh my gosh, are good good?
That's good?

Speaker 3 (14:17):
You know bad times if you don't know, But it's
or is it what you just explained with your wife
where it's like, honey, we're saving you know, at least
two three dollars in this transaction, which is worse for you?

Speaker 5 (14:29):
And no, it's easy. The guy in the thread that
I give plays for six point moves before they that
that's the easy one. Yeah, I was like, I, you know, listen,
there's nothing wrong, by the way, there's nothing wrong with
getting off of the game a little bit on a
six point move on a preseason around the key numbers
of three. Well, we know the key numbers are one
and two in preseason, but even three is a key number.

(14:52):
So there's nothing wrong with getting off of that. I
have no problem as long as you're over betting. So
let's say your normal bet size is two hundred bucks,
and now you're gonna say, well, I know Crack's gonna
give me a game. These are gonna move. Let me
bet four hundred dollars. So now you bet four hundred
bills plus three. And now you go on the other
side of that and say, let me get the giants
for two hundred plus three. Guess what, guys, I've never

(15:13):
talked about this. If it wasn't for doing that, you
wouldn't know me. Because back in the nineties, the mid nineties,
that's how I built my bank roll up. I had
a thousand dollars one thousand dollars. I didn't have family
money like Schwartz, I wasn't set up for life. I
had a thousand bucks. So I literally had five hundred
dollars sent the two different spots and built a bank
roll up betting twenty and thirty and forty dollars medals.

(15:36):
I have no problem with that, But Jeff bron I
don't know if you. I think Brian probably bet bills
plus three. I think I don't know, though, but I
know Jeff did. So Yeah, Jeff and me are on
this plus three and Russ is on the plus three,
and here we go. One of our Fox guys comes
in when the Giants score a touchdown and they go

(15:57):
up by like, I don't know whatever it was they made,
whatever it was in the game, it's it's an old
rule never mentioned the other side. I got Giants plus
three and starts waving his little flag and waving his
little banner like usually I don't get mad at that
kind of stuff, never, never, But this one I got up.
He doesn't even end by the way, he doesn't even

(16:19):
know him upset, and he won't know. I won't say
anything to him.

Speaker 4 (16:22):
So okay, it just won't be the games anymore. I
have a question about that. The middling. Okay, so I'm
not a big middle person. I just I don't know why.
I just it's not that I don't care enough, but
I just I don't like I just it does feel
like a six point middle is not a bad place
to be in the preseason. Yeah, but I just I

(16:42):
can't bring myself to do it. I would have been
a lot better I had I even had, dude, I had.
This is a CLV dumpster fire weekend for me. Closing
line value. I had Colts minus two, it closed at six,
didn't get close to getting home. The Bills plus three
close bills favored by three. US feel like the middle
is probably the right play to make some money backcrack.

(17:06):
But should I be doing that is the question.

Speaker 5 (17:09):
I say personally, I don't middle. It's hard enough to
get so much money down on a play. But I,
like I said to Chat, I have no problem with
you guys, me giving you guys buffalo plus three, telling
you you have thirty seconds to bet this before the
whole world does, and you guys bet that plus three
and then coming back on the other side for fifty

(17:31):
percent of that bet the other side plus three. I
have no problem with that at all. No problem. So
the answer is these are all key numbers, they're all
low spreads. I have no problem when you guys middling it.
Just keep more on the hot side. Like I said,
I don't, but I have no problem with you guys
doing it.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
By the way real fast. I'll say.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
That's one of the things about sports betting that it's
quite annoying. Also is when you get all that CLV
you bet a game at minus one, it climbs to
minus seven.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
A preseason game.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
Yeah, like I got six points in my back pocket,
this is awesome.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
And then it doesn't go your way. That's annoying.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
But I always think about you, Crack, every single time
you say this is one of your favorite famous expressions.
You'll you'll give out a game and you'll have two
three points to CLV, and you're like, now comes the
tough part winning You actually have to weak.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
That's great, but yeah, you gotta win.

Speaker 4 (18:23):
I have a relationship with CLV that I think is unhealthy,
and I just I don't think it matters. I know
Crack hates this, he's gonna say because I know he's
made money on CLV, But like I find myself rarely
winning a wager with CLV, Like, like, I don't know
if it's just the wagers I'm choosing to wager on.

(18:45):
In my own life, I get hooked every now and then.
That's different than CLV because sometimes on a prop is
just that's what the number is, you know. But like I, like,
I thought we were gonna be like the game last night,
the last game, the Packers Jets under three seven and
a half, it was thirty seven. I was like, sweet,
we're gonna get some closed, like thirty five and a half,
close some CLV, And then of course the Jets just

(19:08):
drove right down the field, can't kick the field goal
in Like it just I felt like all the time
I keep hearing about it's important get the best number.
I'm not arguing against that, right, but I feel like
it just it doesn't ever matter to in wagers I make.
I don't know why.

Speaker 5 (19:23):
Maybe in this last year in college you had that problem,
right college football. I think you were having college football.

Speaker 4 (19:27):
Oh it was it was the Utah it was Utah's fault.
But that's but it just feels like again like I
I just don't I personally rarely see the benefit. And
I'm not saying you take bad numbers, by the way,
like I'm not going I'm a bad number.

Speaker 5 (19:43):
It's short term variants though you'll you'll be on the
other side of that.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
I hope. I hope today we have some interest to that.

Speaker 5 (19:49):
And let me ask you what we're going to ask you.
Did you plan any of these at all? Or no?

Speaker 2 (19:53):
No?

Speaker 5 (19:54):
No, okay.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
I just like that the preseason stuff, like normally it's
a gold mine, but it's like when it starts off bad,
I'm like, yeah, that's why I'm not gonna keep chasing it.

Speaker 5 (20:04):
Yeah yeah, right right, No, I I just wanted to
know because I want to know if you've seen how
that you realized how those last like this was a
really bad beat. I mean I didn't watch the Jet
game at all. I didn't know was that considered a
bad beat. I don't know, I.

Speaker 4 (20:16):
Know, not really, I mean not not really. Jets dominated
that game. I mean it was just like they could
have easily they trying to run the clock out. Essentially
the Packers didn't stop them. I mean that's basically what happened.
So that's all you can do there. But uh, the
Bills one was bad because he was in his brutal
it didn't happen. So look on the next day, man,

(20:37):
let's go.

Speaker 5 (20:38):
Yeah, Jeff Is I'll tell you why I've done this for.
You know, I've done this for decades. I've been around
a lot of guys, a lot of originators who really
get down on themselves. I gotta tell you something, Jeff,
you are a professional there. You actually hit me up
all throughout the day. Ah, next game, big deal.

Speaker 4 (20:51):
Well I had a good WNBA day, so you have
a good When you have a good w NBA day,
makes up all right, all.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Right, we're really chatty. We got bills to pay.

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Speaker 9 (23:15):
Saturday night at the Tampa Bay, Buccaneers defeated Tennessee twenty
nine to seven. Tennessee number one overall draft pick cam
Ward five of eight for sixty seven yards. He led
two drives of three and out, but then an eleven
play sixty five yard touchdown Droft at lambeau Field Jets
over the Packers thirty to ten. Jet quarterback Justin Fields
three out of four for forty two yards at a
thirteen yard touchdown run on his only series at ten plays,

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seventy nine yard touchdown Droft. Steelers one at Jacksonville thirty
one to twenty five. Jacksonville's Cam Little kicked a seventy
yard field.

Speaker 6 (23:47):
Goal with room to spare.

Speaker 9 (23:48):
I might add, as the first half expired, it would
have broken the NFL record by four yards had it
been a regular season game. Cardinals over Kansas City twenty
to seventeen. Patrick Mahomes played three snaps, a handoff and completion.

Speaker 6 (24:00):
At a one yard touchdown.

Speaker 9 (24:02):
Pass baseball Saturday night, cal Rawley is forty fourth home
run to league the Majors as the Maritors beat a
Tampa Bay seven to four, show Heyo toddis fortieth home
run of the Dodgers nine to one win over the
Blue Jays. And finally, guys, we have some baseball injury news.
In yesterday's Yankees Old Timers Game, Hall of Fame, closer

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Mariano Rivera, the Great Rivera, tore his achilles tendon.

Speaker 6 (24:29):
While going after a fly ball.

Speaker 9 (24:31):
His agent says he'll have surgery within the next week.
In a related story, By the way, people on social
media still blame the injury on Aaron Boone.

Speaker 6 (24:39):
Back to you, guys, it.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
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Speaker 2 (24:46):
Yeah, we'll stick with the good with.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
I Loo mentioning Cam Little a seventy yard field goal
is insanity.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
It's great he kicked the.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
Ball from his own forty I know it's just math, right,
but you have ten yards before you get to even midfield.
It didn't even look right. He had a seventy yarder.
It would have been a record by four yards. Like Ilo
just said, that would have smashed the record. How many
years with Dempsey, you know, and him having the record

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It was at sixty three yards.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
I think that stood for a long time.

Speaker 4 (25:20):
Yeah. Then Tucker got that sixty six yarder that hit
the crossbar, remember in Detroit, to win the game. That's
another game. Not to make this into a complain fest,
but you know, the Jaguar starters getting dominated by the
Steelers was not very fun. Like just that's the preseason.
I guess you wager on news, right, and oh, Trevor

(25:43):
Lawrence is gonna play new coach, like new players want
to sell out for their coach in the first game. No,
let's just let an offensive tackle who plays tight end
just catch a ball up the seam for a touchdown.
Darnell Washingt That guy is huge, by the way, Oh
my god, he is a giant human. Oh you know
who was a Mason? Rudolph just just just just up
and down the field of us the entire first half.

(26:06):
You know, get's like, well again, like you get the intel, right,
you get the intel that players are going to play,
and some of it works. I took Chiefs first quarter
because I knew Mahomes was going to play easily covered
the first quarter, Like, you know, sometimes it works and
sometimes it doesn't. I don't I don't know, man, it's
a preseason.

Speaker 5 (26:24):
Yeah, yeah, that that that. Uh we had Jacksonville first
half and based on information which was correct, but we
just didn't realize that Jacksonville starters were going to be
uh you know, I don't know, dominated yeah, probably dominated
by these uh backups for Pittsburgh. So I you know what,

(26:44):
the field goal didn't mean nothing to me because we
lost the first half. Like, if that was the field
goal to go ahead and win, that would have been
like one of my top things to talk about today.

Speaker 4 (26:55):
There you go, they should obviously count that. They should
obviously count that, right, like the record books. That was
a pretty cool thing to happen. It was fantastic, it
was It was awesome obviously. I mean you can't you
can't count because it didn't it didn't actually happen in
regularly in game. But I mean that's what the preseasons for, right,
you try these things out. Why not? You know herd
you want to try this and and and give it
a go. So very very cool for the UH. I

(27:17):
don't know if they have a kicking competition. Now I
don't keep up on my Jocksonville Jaguars king competitions, but
if they had one, It's a good way, uh to
win it. I'll tell you that.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
Do you remember I think it was Power Aid, Not
that it really matters, but they used to have commercials
a long time ago. I remember one with Michael Vick,
I think, and he just threw the ball and it
was supposed to like sail out of the stadium or
just something ridiculous like that. That's what that kick reminded
me of, like those old I think it was Power
Aid commercials where that it doesn't even seem realistic. What

(27:47):
Cam Little just did right there with the seventy yard
or that was wild.

Speaker 4 (27:51):
One thing we don't talk about enough is how keys
kickers can make these kicks. Now, when I got in
the NFL, you know, forty seven yards was a beast
of a kid. And then in twenty twelve I was
with Minnesota, right and Blair Walsh was a rookie and
he made ten field goals that year, fifty plus yards.
It was a record, And that was like when it

(28:12):
started to change. And now if you watch these games,
I mean, they got guys making fifty seven yard field
goals with ease, like.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
The Cowboys guy. It makes it look so easy.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
You're like and I and so here here is a
takeaway from this first weekend. And I'm actually kind of
curious about this, and you know, Crack might be able
to tell us the numbers. Is we headed to week one?
About what is traditional? It's not. So I think the
new kickoff rule is going to lead to more points
for those who are you know, the new kickoff rule

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essentially is a huge penalty if you kick the ball
into the end zone as a touchback, welcome up to
the thirty five yard line if you do it, I
think on a line drive or it's the ground first,
it's like the forty yard line. It's like insanely insanely punitive.
So you're gonna get more balls of the thirty five guys,

(29:08):
that's twenty five yards to the other forty yard line.
We're fifty seven yard field goal. That's very doable, okay.
And then if not, a return is going to lead
to better field position for the most part, right, you're
gonna get more touchdowns, more longer like, so, I think
scoring will be up this year because of it. And

(29:28):
so I'm kind of curious to see if the numbers
get adjusted at any point between you know now and
essentially week three or four, people figure it out. I
think scoring is gonna be up a little bit this
year because of that.

Speaker 5 (29:42):
Now you have good points. I was, I know, we
were talking about the field goal. My buddies that are
in the handicap inside of this originator is talking about
these field goal. This is before the seventy yard field goal.
Talking about these teams and these the accuracy and how
how much do you put that in the equation And
the answer is absolutely yes, you do put those points

(30:05):
in the equation. But you know, you wouldn't think that preseason,
Like first game, I was seeing people, you know, seeing
a couple of guys kicking them through. But I was like, wow,
So and if you realize, you know, Jess said something
at the beginning to the very beginning of the show, if
you realize that every game here literally went over except

(30:27):
for I'm going to say one. Someone said two. Well,
if you've seen the opening number at thirty five and
landed on thirty seven, and then it creeped up the
thirty seven, thirty eight, and then it closed the thirty nine,
then they score thirty seven points, I'm still going to
say that's to win. So we're gonna see if this
trend continues today with all these points and all these
field goals.

Speaker 4 (30:47):
I think the only game that didn't go over yesterday
was the one that that which was the Houston one.
Houston Minnesota one didn't go over. The Chiefs pushed on
thirty seven. Otherwise, I mean, like again, this is the
preseason where for most of the time, like the second
halves are the third and four string guys right now.
But like you look at these games from from yesterday.

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The Giants and bill scored eighteen points alone the fourth quarter.
That was a fifty nine point game, Cowboys Rams what
was it, thirty one to twenty one final score, There
were twenty nine points scored in the fourth quarter, Steeles
Jacksonville twenty points scored in the fourth quarter, Tampa Bay
scored sixteen points alone in the fourth quarter, Jets and

(31:31):
Packers thirteen points in the fourth quarter that went over.
And then of course the Chiefs Cardinals, you know, pushed
only three points in the fourth quarter. And then the
Broncos game I think went over because the Broncos scored
thirty points, only seven in the fourth quarter. But again
like thirty nine points, thirty seven points, forty thirty six,
fifty six, fifty two, forty fifty nine Patriots commanders forty

(31:54):
eight to eighteen Browns Panthers went over at forty the
Lions in Falcons. Who knows that game was By the way,
that was very odd. Okay, so we're talking about that quickly, Brian.
We have time for this.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
We have no time to go for it.

Speaker 4 (32:07):
Yeah, so the Lions and Falcons game. Player gets hurt
early fourth quarter and they just call the game off.
I thought it was odd they stopped playing. I get
the severity of the injury. It was not a DeMar
Hamlin situation, but there was that many medical person on
the field, and it seems like the players, okay, he
got hit, look like you might have had a seizure.

Speaker 5 (32:29):
It was all. It was bad.

Speaker 4 (32:30):
I'm not disagreeing with like the severity of it, but
ambulance on the field, fifty five medical personnel. But the
players that are in the fourth quarter, of those guys
need those reps for film, Like those are the guys
that are they need like teams to watch them play.
And I get that it's scary, but you have like

(32:51):
the game continues, like you have like those guys missed
out on a quarter of reps that need the reps
to make teams. I'm saying, not make their own teams,
but get on film. Because the thing about the preseason,
every coach tell you this, Like Dan Campbell would tell
his guys this, So every coach has this. Hey, guys,
you're playing for us as a lion, but you're also
playing for the rest of the NFL because your film

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will be graded by the entire league. And just think
about you know Victor Cruz right, it says years and
years ago, the fourth quarter of this first game gets
a long touchdown pass, Like you just never know when
that journey starts. And like I was a practice squad player,
I get it. But my first preseason game, I didn't
play it to the fourth quarter. In this situation, I
might have missed my reps for the game because the

(33:33):
game was canceled. You know that the gambling thing I
got refunded. Whatever, I mean, it's unfortunate happens. But just
from like a rep's perspective, I'm surprised they just decided
to not play the game anymore.

Speaker 5 (33:46):
Valid point. Yeah, interesting, Uh, I didn't think of it
like that. We just look at think of it as
a gambler and like, oh man, and continue. You hope
the guy's okay, but sure, and you don't even think
about the reps.

Speaker 4 (33:56):
I mean he's fine. I mean it's very it's scary.
Guys appears to have a se shore on the field
like it stinks. But I just was surprised that they
stop the game.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
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Speaker 5 (35:35):
Well, you know what, I may go. I may go
to the end of the show and give out the
same play that's this over in this game. But it's
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Speaker 4 (35:55):
Oh the CLV on this one from this week. Crack
cow boylet's get home today, guys. We won the last
two last night before bed. We're on the right We're
on the right track. Let's go all right, Brian, something
near and dear to our hearts the w Okay okay,
I am I'm zig zagging quote closure years crack. Give

(36:19):
me the sparks over. What was it? Right here? Eighty
four and a half points today in utterly embarrassing performance,
and then last night. I don't know how it's possible
to score like twenty five points in a quarter and
then nine in the next quarter. I just fundamentally do
not understand this. We get to the player to props later.

(36:40):
I love two props in this game as well for
players to go over. But give me here. The sparks
average like ninety five points a game, where you ever
with a ton of points, we can score with the
best of them. Last night was bad. I know it's
back to back, but a lot of them did not
shoot well last night. So I like them to play
what I know. I know that Seattle plays some good

(37:00):
defense at times, but give me sparks over. Eighty four
and a half.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
Points today, Okay, I like the Sparks plus four and
a half, but I don't know what it is. Man,
bet MGM does not like w related parlays.

Speaker 5 (37:15):
You know what it is.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
I got to go elsewhere, which is fine. I'll go
with something on the fly here.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
But yeah, I can maybe find something. You want me
to find something else, and you could take the four
and a half the sparks.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
That's fine. Yeah, if you want, if you got something ready.

Speaker 4 (37:28):
I mean I can always I could always go go baseball.
Never heard anybody with a little little baseball wager. Here
go Carol Fade the Yankees bullpen. Is that is that possible?
Just like pre pre flop. I just I like. I
will tell you though, I do like the Giants. In
the first five today, Gore is pitching for the Nationals.

(37:51):
He's been pretty much atrocious the last one six six
weeks or so. The Giants are not great. I get it,
but I think that they can get it done. The
first five today, I mean Gore the last one, he's
allowed eight runs, six runs than one, but eight. He
has not pitched very well in the last month. So
give me Giants. First five here. That number is going

(38:13):
to be minus one forty.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
Yeah, I got it for you. Okay, Yeah, so I'll go.
I'll go Sparks plus four and a half. Like Jeff said,
they were disgustingly bad last night against the Golden State Valkyries,
and it was just I guess looking back, that was
a pretty good zigzag spot to fade the Sparks. They've
been so good lately. They've been the hottest team in

(38:37):
the WNBA. They've scored one hundred points leading up to
the game last night. In five to their last six games,
they scored like, what was it, fifty nine points?

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Like they didn't show off.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
They were awful last night, but going home against Seattle,
Seattle's a goofy team as well. Seattle has not been
playing great. So we get four and a half points
in our back pocket. I think it's a total over
reaction from yesterday, stinker, and so I'll back the Sparks.

Speaker 5 (39:04):
Man.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
If you look at those three plays, Prak's got he's
got the over and the Dolphins Bears game, I've got
the Sparks plus four and a half, and Jeff goes
with his giants in the first five. Those three parlayed
together plus five to eleven. There we go that a
little over five to one. I like it back on
the winning track over again. What are you saying by them?

Speaker 4 (39:28):
I'm ready. I get it, Brian. Once again, I watched
too much WNBA. I gotta stop. I stop. I've lowered
my menu on what I wager on, though it's been
good to do that. The best wager, by the way,
in all sports, I'm telling you all sports fae the
Chicago Sky. They've covered one or last eleven games. Crack

(39:49):
and by the way, they're even close. They're losing by
twenty twenty five thirty points without Angel reconal lineup. Doesn't
matter who they play, they're getting smoked. And so whatever
they play, I just find the opening number. I think
the best number I can get, Like immediately, I try
to find the best number I can find. Like they
play again? Not sold, Wow, they don't play for a

(40:11):
while now, So they play Wednesday. I'll take the Sun.
I don't care. Just sign up for the Sun on Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Yeah, day, you might be right with that.

Speaker 5 (40:20):
You might go. This Miami Chicago game is a major
line move on the screen. It's over thirty six and
a half everywhere and lighting up and red thirty seven
in town here. I just see now. So this is
a pretty big move because it already moved earlier in
the week. So I still have a leans to that over.
That's why I put it in the in the parley clutch.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
I like that, man. I'm in pre season mode.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
I got to get the thunder crashing ready for your
for your line movements over there, cracking. I even see it.
My wall is sound over. I got to get to
the DJ airhorn. That's the best I can do.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
Right I'm in.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
I got to tighten the screws here. I come it
up next. This quarterback will have to be a whole
lot better than many WNBA players.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
Oh what's going on? Happy Sunday to you.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
We will get to a quarterback that's gotta hit some layups.
Can't miss these layups like some of the WNBA players.
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Speaker 2 (41:42):
Okay, so we got.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
More preseason reactions over here. JJ McCarthy back with the Vikings.
Remember you got hurt in a preseason game last year
and was gone for the entire regular season, missed the playoffs,
didn't have one snap outside of the preseason.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
But he's back.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
Kevin O'Connell put him back there, got some action yesterday
and look, all right, looked pretty good. Couple of nice
throws to Jordan Addison. But there's one throw in particular.
He missed Lucky Jackson who was just wide open across
the middle and the pass just was nowhere near sailed
on him, not even close. And I thought of you, actually, Jeff,

(42:19):
because we talk about in the WNBA not everybody miss
his layups. Let's get this out there, but there are
missed layups frequently, and that's what I thought of with
JJ McCarthy. That's the one thing this season that should
be required. He's got to hit his layups. That was
a layup throw and he just missed it now. To
his credit, when it was fourth and four, he used

(42:41):
his legs, saw the blitz coming easily, got out of there,
picked up the first down.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
So he did some good things.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
But when you've got a layup throw like that, you
can't miss those layups. With a team as talented as
the Vikings, he's got to make his layups this season.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
That should be expected.

Speaker 4 (42:57):
I like analogy because in the w n b A,
the best teams make their layups right like the Liberty,
the Links, the aces when they're on like they make
they make their layups, and the bad teams don't. It's
kind of simple. And in this offense, with the weapons
that McCarthy has, there're gonna be a lot of just

(43:19):
lay up throws that he has to make for this
offense to function, because there's gonna be tough throws that
he probably won't make as a young player. But I
thought yesterday watching him play, he looked comfortable, which was
important who those are welcome This morning I mentioned earlier
that like I kind of do an eye test, like
does it look like it should sort of thing. He

(43:39):
looked comfortable enough on the field. He had some zip
on his throws, and again he missed a couple of throws,
but that you know, that's part of being back in
no Jefferson, right, I mean that's part you know, you're
you're working with some different guys, But you're right, Brian.
For the for the offense to work like they want,
they do need to hit those easy throws. What I
found interesting about the Vikings yesterday and a lot of teams, men,

(44:02):
we use this term to describe the preseason, that there's
vanilla concepts, right, Vanilla defense, Vanila offense. Yeah, there is
no such thing as vanilla defense anymore, guys. Week one,
these teams are bringing the fricking house right now. Look,
I'm old, Okay, I'm almost forty. My first year of
two thousand and eight in the NFL, vanilla defense used

(44:24):
to be four to three base defense. In the first
preseason game, they'd have like one blitz. They'd run the
entire game. They'd run like one linebacker down the big gap,
or they run they took two linebackers off the edge
is called saw sam Will they run two now they
got free safety will. They're mugging guys up and dropping
them out. They're like they're doing these exotic stuff in

(44:45):
week one. So it's this idea that like everything is
basic in week one of vanilla is not the case anymore.
So we can't evaluate it by that, by that metric game, Oh,
they're facing Vanila defense.

Speaker 5 (44:55):
They're not.

Speaker 4 (44:55):
They're not. They're facing pressures that are you neat to
teams that are not often running week one, and so
that I don't want to hear that term anymore. We're
limiting that term vanilla defense no more. No one ought
to have said that anymore. It's not what's happening.

Speaker 5 (45:13):
Did you did you guys? I didn't watch as many
games as you guys? Did you guys? Both watch the
Vikings game though, that's when I went out. That's why
that's fine.

Speaker 4 (45:21):
I watched most of my kids are at the beach
by myself, so.

Speaker 5 (45:25):
He so, uh McCarthy though, played the first couple of
series one serious ill just one? Is that the standard thing, Jeff?
For all these quarterbacks, like I can't see mahomes playing
more than so.

Speaker 4 (45:36):
It's a good question. So I've Brian worked with Brian.
How many years we work here now? Five years? I
don't even know how long. That's why what have I
said for five years about the preseason starters need to
play more. I've said this for years, and this year
they're starting to play more because teams have realized they
start slow in September and it's because they don't play

(45:58):
their starters in the preseason at all. And guys, it's
not about the actual game in my opinion, it's about
the preparation of the week. So you know, when you
play in a game, you prepare it practice differently than
if you're not playing a game right, You might eat differently,
you might mentally, and you have to get yourself used
to that regiment before you play your first game of

(46:20):
the season. And so it's not just playing on the field,
it's all the other things that are revolve around being
able to play on Sundays. And when you don't do
it all preseason, it kind of stings up on you.
Week one. You're like, oh wait, it's Wednesday. What am
I doing. I haven't done it since last January? Like
what do I So it's more than just that. So
we're seeing cracked starters play more now. It doesn't mean

(46:43):
they're playing a ton mahomes played one drive, you played
three places to score. If you score early, typically crack
that's it. Now the Bengals play two drives, they score
two touchdowns. Sometimes the starting quarterback comes out and that's
it and then the backup gets one drive with the
starting offensive line. The Chiefs often do that. So we

(47:04):
saw a lot more Brian starters play. All the Bengals
played their starters, which hadn't done forever or so. I
think I think it's a good thing.

Speaker 5 (47:11):
I think we're seeing saying key positions, by the way,
that's the most important, right well, back, running, back, wide
receiver or y line everything.

Speaker 4 (47:19):
But it just okay, okay, A lot of teams, like
the Bills, played their starters minus Josh Allen, you know,
like so like you know, it just depends on the
team what what they're gonna do. But again, the mccarthurly
played one drive. I'd play it more, but that's what
they allowed him to play. But I think week two
we're gonna see more starters play longer than we've seen

(47:42):
in a while. I get the sense that it's gonna happen.

Speaker 5 (47:44):
You guys, remember last year that was a little bit
of a controversy after Week one, even week two regular
season Week one and two, the announcers the broadcasters, the
press people were talking about that, like, hey, maybe they
should have had more reps in preseason last year. Yeah,
they were talking about that last year. It just came
to me. So what Jeff is saying, and what you're

(48:06):
saying he's sending for the last five years is probably correct.
Now that will happen more towards Game three. I'm guessing
that's what I'm getting too. More more do you like?
Do you think you'll see an Allan? Do you think
you see a Jefferson? Do you think you'll see these guys?

Speaker 4 (48:23):
I think we'll see. I think we'll see most of
the starting quarterbacks play in Week two? How long they
play again, Like you have a good first drive, you're
typically out.

Speaker 5 (48:34):
The second drive.

Speaker 4 (48:36):
The Cardinals yesterday fumbled the opening kickoff. The Chiefs had
three plays and scored and Mahomes was out. Now again
starting off, it's a line state in for Gardner, Minshew
for one series.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
You're got Gardner.

Speaker 4 (48:46):
Yeah, I tell you what, man, he is a he's
great as a backup, like I think the Chiefs that's
a great spot for him. Great backup, terrible starter, you know,
But we'll see. So I think we'll see more starters
playing week two correct week three is just as the backups.
I don't think there's anything I will.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
Say real fast though to Jeff's point, and this is
what's important, because you could look at Mahomes.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
I think he threw two passes.

Speaker 4 (49:09):
He threw one. Oh, he threw one pass that was
a pass interference, and then he threw the second one
was a touchdown.

Speaker 3 (49:15):
Yeah, and that's it. And you might look and be like, wow,
did that really was a really big deal. It's like, yeah, well,
he's still prepared to correct play immediately. His whole routine,
the whole thing. That's important because otherwise, if you know
you're not playing one single down, your preparation is completely different.
So I think even throwing the two passes as the

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starter does matter.

Speaker 4 (49:38):
It also changes the mindset of your team because you
know your starter quarterback is playing. That means everyone else's
is going to play and they're trying. They're not going
out to lose. That's why I took the Chiefs first quarter.
I just thought the Chiefs and they did. They played
well in the first quarter. When the starters were like you,
there's a sense of like, oh, stars are playing, I

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gotta play well too and so and any read by
the way, has been the North star with this. He's
always played as starters. I mean, Travis Kelsey played like
they play everyone and unfortunately I got hurt yesterday. I
think it's a backup safety. I mean that's the NFL.
Hollywood Brown got hurt the preseason last year as well.
That's I mean the NFL guys. It's very rare though,

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the starters get hurt. And I'll tell you, guys why.
In the preseason, I should say, the starters know how
to play. That makes sense. In the preseason, like you
get your work in, You're not gonna do a lot
of extra You kind of have an eye to like
where the pile's coming from. You can feel as a
player like, oh, the pile's coming, let me move my
feet out the way. In the regular season, you might

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try to like finish that block a little bit more
and not really worry about the pile and like do
extra stuff. In the preseason, you see a lot of guys,
especially in the trenches, like block and kind of look
around like pile's not here, Okay, I'm fine. Like guys
know how to play. Veterans know how to play against
veterans in the preseason. It's why you don't see ton
of injuries.

Speaker 5 (51:00):
It's just like, so you're saying that backups are opposite
of that, then they well.

Speaker 4 (51:04):
The backups are opposite, but like they just don't sometimes
know how to play quote unquote play there. The veterans
get it, and so you're just not gonna lot to see.
In my opinion, we have we seen one starter get
hurt in a game so far in the preseason. Knock
on wood on that. I don't I don't think like
a long term injury. I don't think we have.

Speaker 3 (51:23):
No.

Speaker 4 (51:23):
They haven't played a lot of snaps either, so that's
fair as well, but like they typically don't. It's a
myth that he's got hurt in the preseason. It's not
really happening.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
By the way, I do love that Joe Burrow got
more action in the preseason because here's the thing, man,
you mentioned this, Jeff. If you look at Burrow before
this preseason, he had played eight he threw eight preseason passes.
Before this current preseason, he threw ten passes alone in
the Thursday night game. And I think this is really

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smart by Zach Taylor. So under Zach Taylor. He's been
one and eleven as the Bengals head coach in the
first two weeks, and with Burrow as this quarterback, he's.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
Burrow's one in nine. His record in.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
The first two weeks is obnoxious, and if you look
at his stats, I don't want to bombard you with
a ton of them. But here's Burrow in the first
two weeks compared to all the other weeks, like weeks
three through eighteen. So first two weeks in passer rating
he's thirty second. All other weeks he's second, right, like

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first two weeks in completion percentage, twenty seventh in the league.
All other weeks he's first, and one other one touchdown
to interception ratio.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
First two weeks he's twenty ninth.

Speaker 6 (52:36):
Yeah, and all other.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Weeks he's fourth.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
He's spectacular outside of the first two weeks. So what
can you do to try to change that? Get him
some time in the preseason. He threw two touchdown passes,
looked great against Philly.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
Maybe this helps.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
Them get out of the blocks a little bit faster,
and they need to. If you look at their schedule,
they're at the Browns and then they host Jacksonville, that's
pretty favorable right there. They can't afford to start one
in one, one or zero and two like they typically
do because up next three in the next four are
on the road, and all four against tough teams at Minnesota,
at the Broncos, host the Lions, at the Packers, So

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you can't stumble.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
You got to be two and oh out of.

Speaker 3 (53:15):
The gates because it gets tough real fast for Cincinnati.

Speaker 4 (53:19):
I'm in strong agreement. Again, I think teams are looking
at the way Kansas City does things because obviously Adie
Reid's won for so many years, and you want to,
I think, emulate some of that. And I guess I
think they did the research and were like, it's guys
are not hurt at the level that we think they
are in the preseason, so let's get them reps. Let's
get them not a ton, not a lot. But also,

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like how good in the Bengals feel they got too
oft at the touchdowns? Immediately they're probably like awesome, Like
right now defensively, it's like, oh, here we go again,
but like how good you think they feel after that game?
Offensive We're like, yeah, man, like sweet, we're back, We're back, guys,
And so again, I think there's an importance to that. Now.
It really hasn't helped us in wagers unfortunately, But you

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think it would help when like the Bengals starters are
playing the Eagles backups, but it didn't. So like that.
That's that has been the bummer I think of, just
from a gamling perspective of like, oh, the stars are playing.
Let me take Bengals first half. Oh the Eagles backups
dominated them. You're like, oh, book, I mean, you're You're
not wrong to think the Bengals are going to win

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that first half matchup. It just just they didn't. I
don't know what to say.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
Man, let me share something with you.

Speaker 3 (54:31):
Let me bring it back to JJ McCarthy because I
read something that he said after the preseason game that
I thought was really interesting.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
Because you hear this quite a bit.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
You'll hear from maybe Viking fans where they'll say, hey,
he's going up against that Brian Flores defense every day
in practice, that's only going to help him, right, And
for the most part, I agree with that. But McCarthy
said something that really stood out. He was talking about
Brian Florio's Vikings defense, and it's really tough right.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
They're very good with deception.

Speaker 3 (55:03):
They bring a lot of simulated pressures where you think
these four guys are rushing, but it's not.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
One drops back and another dude is rushing.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
It's very tricky, right, A very very sophisticated defensive approach
from Brian Flores. But JJ McCarthy said, when you go
against Flow's defense, your timing is always like one hitch
and it's got to be out. And I feel like
there were a couple of occasions on Saturday in the
preseason game where I could have sat in there and

(55:31):
trusted the pocket and made a better decision in that
time frame, the one to Lucky across the middle. If
I would have just waited a click longer, I would
have found him in that window. I thought that was
really interesting because there actually can be a downside for
a young quarterback going up against a really tough defense
every day, where it sped him up a little bit,

(55:53):
and against the defense that's not on the same level.
It's like you got to slow it down and have
a different timing. Like that was really interesting to me
about JJ McCarthy.

Speaker 4 (56:04):
So now I like that he said that Brian the
next step now obviously is do we see in game
two it slow down for him?

Speaker 5 (56:15):
Right?

Speaker 4 (56:15):
Because I agree like that. Again, this is the point
of the preseason is to to recognize, you know, I
played a little fast. This is why I think it's
important to get reps like I played fast. So and
of course he hasn't played in a year, two years,
playing two years, so he played a little fast. It's
got sped up. Okay, Game two, slow down. Let's just

(56:38):
make the plays there in front of me. Like I
think this again, this is the benefit from just actually
those perspective and just a player for playing this time
of year.

Speaker 3 (56:46):
Yeah, I do too, I really I think it's valuable, man,
I do. And even Kyler Murray with the horrible interception
right there, he got it out of his system. I'd
rather have it in the preseason than Week one, I'll
say that.

Speaker 4 (56:59):
So do you think that your Dolphins need to play
to today?

Speaker 2 (57:03):
Absolutely?

Speaker 5 (57:03):
I do.

Speaker 3 (57:05):
Yeah, I'd love to see him get at least a drive,
get a series.

Speaker 4 (57:09):
You know, Mimi in Chicago.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
I think it's in Chicago.

Speaker 4 (57:14):
I think a one pm game in Miami. So pre
season used to be at night because it's freaking hot,
and now they're playing these games like one, it's.

Speaker 5 (57:22):
Really hot in Chicago. It's hot and humid there. I
talked to someone yesterday and so like.

Speaker 4 (57:25):
That is you used to play them. It used to
be all at night because it's it's human. I could
not imagine playing and I guess I did in September.
I have to play one pm kickoffs, but a one
pm kickoff in charge, North Carolina in the middle of August.
Now it's been nicer last couple last week, but that's
pretty bad. But Chicago, I guess, is okay. It's all
for us, though we can watch some football. I don't

(57:47):
even know the second there's a second game today too, right.

Speaker 5 (57:49):
We haven't talked. We haven't talked about that game.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
My Saints and the Chargers. You know, I say, are.

Speaker 4 (57:54):
We running our back? Brian? And we talked about that.
Do have to give you like like like a quarter
point on something like one and a half?

Speaker 2 (58:00):
Yeah, give me like two and a half wins?

Speaker 3 (58:02):
You know something, Jeff and I we've bet for years
now who will have more wins in a season? Is
it gonna be the Carolina Panthers or the New Orleans Saints.
I don't know how this even became a thing.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
I guess we.

Speaker 3 (58:14):
Really disagreed we did three years back, and it just
became a thing.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
We just run it back every year.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
I hate my chances just outright obviously of the Saints
having more wins, but it.

Speaker 4 (58:24):
Will give you a game. We'll see, is that fairly
there are two wins apart, I think in the totals right, like,
that's part of it. Twos. They've always been like around
the same number for wins, so we've been able to
like have fun with it. But I think apparently are
seven and a half. I think six and a half
or seven and a half.

Speaker 3 (58:41):
I gotta look, you know what I just did this,
let me grab it because I did a whole like
pie chart and I got bar grafts over here and everything. Yeah,
we've got let's see. I'll give it to you really fast.
So Carolina, Wow, six and a half and it's juice
to the over minus one forty five to the over,
and the Saints are down to four and a half.
That's juiced minus one fifty to the over. So two

(59:04):
game difference right there. So I don't know if you
feel like being a Santa Schwartz over there and give
me a couple of.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
Games that'd be great, but I feel like, yeah, I
feel like.

Speaker 3 (59:14):
We got to run it back on principle, you know,
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nl MVP race Otani listen.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
Otani is magnificent.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
We all know this, but do you realize with Schwarber
having as great of a season as he's having, Otani
is still minus twelve hundred to be NLMVP. Schworber's plus
seven hundred Schoorber's seven to one, you gotta lay twelve
hundred just to win one hundred with Otani. That's a

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huge of a favorite he is. And I mentioned going
to break. This does remind me of the NBA Finals
right where if you rewind where it was OKAC against
the Pacers and before the series even began, OKC was
a big favorite. Yeah, we talked about in this show.
It's like they shouldn't be that big of a favorite.

(01:01:20):
And I feel the same way with Otani. Otani has
been magnificent, but Schwarber has had an insane season, and
Otani hasn't pitched many innings, so I don't think he.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
Should be that huge of a favorite.

Speaker 3 (01:01:32):
But with that being said, unless he gets hurt and
knock on wood, that doesn't happen.

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
Yeah, this is Otani's award. Like so it's the classic,
even though.

Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
The betting odds shouldn't be that that way, you can't
take advantage of it because Schwarber' is not gonna win
this thing.

Speaker 4 (01:01:48):
I'm actually surprised PCA is not higher. He his war
is better than Otani's. Pete Romshawn from from the Comps.
I mean, look, the thing about show Hey is is
the pitching right Like he he's hitting just as well
as everyone, and then he also pitches on top of that.
That's the reason why. And I will say, Brian, I

(01:02:12):
don't find that as fascinating as the al MVP. I
missed on the best number for cal Rawly. I will
admit that he's plus one twenty judges, it's minus one
seventy five. How does Rawley not win MVP? I don't.

(01:02:33):
All he does is rake as a catcher, and he's
a gold Glove like contender. Aaron Judge is a DH
now because of his injury and the Yankee stink like
the Mariners keep winning and then went six in a row.
Now a big mistake I made. And this is again,
this is my It's really we were at dinner. I'm

(01:02:54):
gonna regret this. I might still make the way Aaron
I probably should do it. I'm gonna regret this. We're
at dinner with Crack. It was a great dinner. He goes, Hey, buddy,
just text me. Mariner's thirty to one to win the
World Series and they just traded for Naylor and I
was like, ah, I know, and it went to like
twenty two by the time I even looked at my phone. Anyways,

(01:03:15):
I couldn't.

Speaker 5 (01:03:15):
Get three twenty four.

Speaker 4 (01:03:18):
Yeah, but I couldn't use the app. I know. I
hate the spirits been MGM. I couldn't use the app
because I had to registers in the state and my
ID had expired. And I realized that because I expired
on my birthday, which was in July. Get to Las Vegas. Oopsie,
I do expired. I don't know why they don't give

(01:03:39):
you a warning, like if you're when your car, like
you get a thing like, hey, register your car. It's
about to but like your ID not nothing, no idea,
couldn't do it online. Long story whatever, I about this.
The backlog for DMV appointment in the state of North
Carolina is so backlogged the governor signed into law that
you get a year grace period to get your ID

(01:04:02):
renewed without getting a ticket for driving the expired license.
That's how backlogged the DMV appointments are. That's a side note.
But the Marriers are now eleven to one. I have
a bunch of bonus bets on bet MGM. I think
I'm gonna use one of the Mariners. They have the
recipe guys that wins World Series pitching and big flies

(01:04:23):
like not streaming together eleven hits to score three runs,
dudes hitting home runs. Brian and the Mariners are very
very live to win the World Series.

Speaker 5 (01:04:32):
Nice. Nice, and uh, this is not really an anti
Yankees bet though, right, Like, that's not the cover.

Speaker 4 (01:04:39):
No, it's more it's more than I think that the Mariners,
so to me, the recipe in the postseason again is pitching,
which the Mariners have, which a bunch of other teams
have as well. The Phillies have pitching like they got
durand now, like sure, and the Phillies are on the
same boat. And I think it's it's not crack about
being able to get the most hits in the world
in a playoff game. It's getting the big in the

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playoff game. And the Mariners have the guys to do that.
Is fully, by the way, so do the Dodgers. Like,
there's a lot of teams that have the capability to
get the big hit in the postseason, but the Mariners
have after their trades man, they got a lot of
dudes up and down the lineup that can get the
big hit.

Speaker 5 (01:05:16):
Yeah. Yeah, And you know, going back to the original
subject here, we really need to appreciate what we have
here with Otani. I mean, he's back to pitching now,
and even though he's limited here around fifty pitches, he
looks completely dominant when he's on the mound. In my mind,
he is the MVP every year. For him to lose
this award to someone like Schwarber or something like that

(01:05:41):
would really he would really have to tank these last
forty five games or get an injury. So if the
Phillies win the division and Dodgers somehow don't make the playoffs,
I mean that's probably not gonna happen. But even if
he did, I mean, this guy is just amazing. He
really is. So you have to appreciate. And you know what,

(01:06:01):
if there's one guy I've never seen him. I love
big going to baseball games, but did not get to
go to one this year. He used, this is the
guy I used to go to when I lived back East,
that I was going to two dozen games every year,
a lot of them at Shay and they're well it's
not Shay anymore, MetLife, but a lot of them, a
lot of met games, a lot of Yankee games too.
I would love to go Seo Tani pitch though, I

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really would. It's a shame. I hope they build this
stadium here. Most people are don't hope. You know, I don't.
I don't want an NBA stadium here, and I don't
want this being a crazy town. Well I know, but
I mean an NBA team. I'm saying I don't want that.
I want the baseball to come here, though I really do.
I love going to a couple of games, and most

(01:06:44):
residents here, but people that live here they actually don't
want it. They do not want it, surprising me after
Las Vegas Golden Knights. We have such great fan support,
and what an experience we're going to one of those
games compared to another NHL game and another city, So
people will plan their vacations around that. So I think
it'll help with with lots of things. Imagine all the

(01:07:07):
people we get in that comes in from different cities
when they're when the A's are playing here, and then
they schedule their three day going to the games, every day,
going to the casinos. It's great for the economy, the
local economy, it's just great for everything. So, like I said,
I'm a little a little partial to baseballs because that's
just just why I grew up.

Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
By the way, though, crack, what do you think do
you think that Otani should be that huge of a
favorite minus twelve hundred, because like listen, look at some
of the hitting stats where Schwarber he's got forty one
homers compared to forty He's got ninety five RBIs compared
to seventy six.

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
Like Schwarber's been raking.

Speaker 3 (01:07:43):
Now Otani has a better batting average by twenty nine points.
And Otani's starting to pitch more. He had four innings
pitched his last outing eight strikeouts. Rea, He's nineteen innings
pitched on the season. You think, I agree Otani's the NLMVP,
but minus twelve hundred is a obnoxiously huge favorite.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
Do you agree with that line?

Speaker 5 (01:08:06):
I can't lay twelve to one. I just I can't
lay twelve to one on almost anything in life. You know,
I've seen boxing matches, UFC matches, many things in life
go down greater than twelve to one. Now, I'm not
saying I'm not saying this is a Mike Tyson when

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he was forty to one of a Buster Douglas. I'm
not saying that. But I just can't bring myself to
lay twelfth to one, even though I think he's the
clear cut winner.

Speaker 3 (01:08:37):
Yeah, you know who else is the clearcut winner? And
we're talking minus nine thousand is what you have to lay.
Isaac Clohendra the best in the business.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
He's got the latest. What's going on?

Speaker 9 (01:08:47):
I low Oh, thank you as always for that gracious introduction, Brian,
And let's run down the NFL preseason on Saturday night,
the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. If he have the Tennessee Titans
twenty nine to seven, but Tennessee number one overall pick.
Cam Ward completed five of eight for sixty seven yards
and two drives of three and out, and then he
led an eleven play sixty five yard touchdown drive.

Speaker 6 (01:09:07):
Jets won a Green Bay thirty to ten.

Speaker 9 (01:09:09):
Jets quarterback Justin fields three of four for forty two
yards and a thirteen yard touchdown run on his only series,
which was a ten place seventy nine yard touchdown drive.
Steelers won a Jacksonville thirty one to twenty five, but
Jacksonville's cam Little with a big kick a seventy yard
field goal as time expired to the first tap would

(01:09:32):
have broken the NFL record by four yards had it
been a regular season game. The Arizona Cardinals over the
Kansas City Chiefs twenty to seventeen. Patrick Mahomes three snaps,
a handoff in incompletion, and a one yard touchdown pass. However,
bad news for Kansas City safety Dion Bush tore his
achilles and will be out for the season. Baseball Saturday

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Night Mariners over the Tampa Bay Raye seven to four.
Cal Rawley his major league leading forty fourth home run.
The Mariners now half a game bind first place Houston
in the AL West Show, Hey Otani's fortieth home run
and the Dodgers nine to one triumph over Toronto. Blake's
now struck out ten and five innings for the win.

Speaker 6 (01:10:11):
Guys, Thank you.

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debut yesterday? Jackson Dart with the Giants looked pretty good. Yeah,
he had thirty snaps through for one hundred and fifty
four yards.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
Touchdown pass included.

Speaker 3 (01:10:46):
We got hitting the chops and delivered a strike or
a deep ball and a touchdown.

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
Pretty good debut.

Speaker 3 (01:10:53):
You know, Crack, He'll send these notes and they're great.
Some of his topics are awesome and he just put there.
How many starts? How many each of those three quarterbacks
played for the Giants yesterday?

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
Who starts the most games.

Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
And if I set the betting line at I don't know,
Jackson Dart two and a half starts very low.

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
You take the over, you like the over?

Speaker 5 (01:11:16):
Yeah, just based off that one per former Chester today.

Speaker 4 (01:11:19):
Yeah, yeah, just like.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
The lack of competition.

Speaker 4 (01:11:23):
Yeah, I just Russell Wilson, I think through eight pass
and seven didn't travel further than the line of scrimmage.
Like that's just it's just it's eventually it's gonna get tiring. Yeah,
gonna be over it, and there's gonna be like give me,
give me, give me the young kid who can throw
the ball, and let's just ride with him. That's why
I think it's gonna happen.

Speaker 5 (01:11:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:11:43):
Do you think he'll have the most, the most starts
out of anybody?

Speaker 4 (01:11:50):
So I've said all along, I think Sadura will start
at some point this season.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
I just mean the Giants quarterbacks.

Speaker 4 (01:11:56):
Oh, the Giants quarterbacks, not the young guys. Yeah, so
ends up having the most start.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
Yeah. Interesting, the Giants start owing.

Speaker 4 (01:12:02):
Four because their schedule, but they really gonna just like,
let Russell Wilson continue to be a quarterback or just
go young.

Speaker 5 (01:12:07):
Kid, right Yeah, And like like you guys said, all
three of the Giants quarterbacks got some field time. I
guess you had Dart made made some NFL throws that
would make you think that he would see the field
here as a starter maybe. But you know Russell Wilson,
I mean he's the starter for Game one, am I right? Well,
yes he will be okay, yeah, I mean, but but

(01:12:29):
you said it right, how long is his leash? I mean,
I would think just what you said, Jeff, if he
goes if they're owing four, one to five, they're probably
gonna go to Dart. So Winston will probably not get
much time. Unless you see an injury to Wilson or.

Speaker 4 (01:12:44):
Darkins will not be on the team, I think.

Speaker 5 (01:12:48):
So you don't even think, okay, you don't think it'll
be on the team. They have to have a third,
but they couldn't go to it. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:12:54):
I was ready for this tweet. I had this tweet
dialed up. It was like on my phone, ready to go.
James Winston of because he didn't he didn't play the
fourth quarter. He had the quarter twitched over right before
he finished, and they brought in Tommy Devido. I would
imagine Jameis Winson had the most NFL starts at quarterback
for someone playing the fourth quarter of a preseason game. Wow, Wow,

(01:13:15):
he was the third string quarterback. He said he's had
eighty seven starts in the NFL a quarterback.

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
Yeah, probably right about that.

Speaker 4 (01:13:21):
So I think James is gonna be really, I think
it's gonna be Russell Wilson, Dart de Vito right right.

Speaker 5 (01:13:27):
And Justin Fields, by the way, had a good preseason outing.
He showed that he still has some legs to move
the ball down the field, but his legs has never
really been the question. It's kind of been his arm.
So yeah, I think he could be as successful on
there though. I don't think they have the supporting cast
around him for them to be a playoff team, But
I think he could, uhbe.

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
I don't want We've been through this.

Speaker 4 (01:13:53):
Don't don't do it, don't brought on the same boat here,
don't don't don't. Don't you know what happened if you
were in that hot tub last night. Okay, we were
all watched, we were all sulking because of our wagers.
And you look at the box score and you're like,
I didn't watch Fields again, and then me and Brian

(01:14:14):
are we're here to tell you don't get sucked in
the Packers.

Speaker 5 (01:14:18):
I mean it looked like he moved the ball around.

Speaker 4 (01:14:21):
Teams that care about their preseason. The Packers are near
the bottom of the NFL and caring about what happens
in preseason games. I would take nothing away from any
Packer preseason game ever. I mean they they weren't even
they don't even try like they just they just they
don't care at all about the preseason.

Speaker 3 (01:14:36):
You know what, the Fields reminds me of Kyle Pitts,
the Falcons tight end.

Speaker 4 (01:14:42):
Oh, he's the best player ever.

Speaker 3 (01:14:43):
In August every single year it's hey man, maybe maybe
Kyle Pitts this year. And we get that with Justin Fields,
it's the Spider Man meme. It's Justin Fields and Kyle
Pitts pointing at each other because everyone's like, hey, I
don't maybe they turned the corner this year, and then
they don't come close turning the corner.

Speaker 7 (01:15:01):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
The thing with Justin Fields, I'll say real fast, is
for any quarterback in the NFL, you have to make
your living primarily throwing the football.

Speaker 2 (01:15:13):
Yes, you have to.

Speaker 3 (01:15:15):
Like that doesn't mean you can't run. It doesn't mean
you can't be a dynamic runner. Look at some of
these guys like Lamar, Jaden Daniels, Josh Allen. They are
weapons with their legs, but they make their living primarily
throwing the ball. Lamar threw forty one touchdown passes last season.
You know, Jaden Daniels was electric throwing the football. Justin
fields cannot make a living throwing the football primarily correct.

(01:15:40):
He's got Garrett Wilson and who A bunch of mediocre
targets and a mediocre offensive line is not gonna happen there.
I don't think it's gonna happen anywhere, but certainly not
there in Gang Green. I don't see that at all.
I'll eat my words if that's wrong. Crack I will,
I promise. All right, We've got Bill Krackenberger professional sports
handicap for Jeff Schwartz, eight year NFL veteran. I'm Brian

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Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
All right, prop bets, galore, crack. We start with you.
What's something you like?

Speaker 5 (01:17:26):
Let's go to baseball. Let's go to the Chargers. Chargers. Sorry,
sant I'm always in the things. San Diego is a Chargers,
by the way. Let's go to San Diego Padres by
the way. Last night, Wow, what a good game. Good
comeback for the for the Padres last night. Winning that
game five to four and extra innings. So we're gonna
go to baseball here. Ceize is the pitcher. Total outs

(01:17:48):
recorded seventeen and a half over minus one twenty five
coming off six day rest. Padres six relievers in last
night's extra inning game. By the way, so let's go
over on his recorded outs on today. It's seventeen and
a half minus.

Speaker 4 (01:18:04):
A quarter, all right. I like two over props in
the same game on the same team. Talked about this earlier.
I like the zig zag spot. It's a really good
spot at a WNBA for some for some players. So Stevens
last night four points for the Sparks. Yeah, she since

(01:18:26):
June first in games where she has scored under ten points,
so five points. Next game she scored twenty one six points.
Next game she scored nineteen four points, next game sixteen
points scored six and twenty one nine and twenty one.
She tends to bounce back pretty well after a down game.
The other one I took, so that's over, by the way,

(01:18:48):
eleven and a half for her, and then Kelsey plump
over seventeen and a half one for nine shooting yesterday
just four points. Again, I mean these these ten to
pan out man. Kelsey Plump rarely has games in single digits.
I think actually the first from all season she had
in single digits. So I like them to bounce back
both today over there over their props.

Speaker 3 (01:19:09):
All right, I like it, you know the Aza Ray Stevens.
I like that pick a lot. I actually took her
on yesterday's Countdown show like over twelve and a half.
She's nowhere close, so she'll probably blow that out of
the water here.

Speaker 4 (01:19:23):
To take eleven and a half today, so you get
one out.

Speaker 3 (01:19:25):
I know it went down a little bit more A
lot of times, it's an overreaction.

Speaker 2 (01:19:29):
You know, I'm gonna I'm gonna go a little zig
zag as well, Jeff, I'm gonna go with your girl.

Speaker 3 (01:19:34):
Sabrina Ynescu where she's been down last couple of games
for her standards scoring wise, sixteen last game and nine
the previous game, both against Dallas. They're going up against
Minnesota today. I like her over nineteen and a half points.
I think she regains her form, and the only other

(01:19:55):
game that she played against Minnesota this year thirty one points.
She dropped so and right before this recent downward spiral,
she was very healthy thirty six twenty three thirty one
points that went against Minnesota again, So I like her
over nineteen and a half. I think she's going to
do a lot of the scoring today. To give me
some Rena Genescu.

Speaker 4 (01:20:16):
She got me last game. I took that. I took
that points, rebounds, assist over and she was like, well
on her way and then just did nothing for the again.

Speaker 3 (01:20:23):
The fourth quarter was up it it's oh, it's the
worst when that happens. They just hit a wall and
it's over. Man, You've had some bad luck with that, Jeff.
You'll have a player that needs over sixteen and a
half points, they have fourteen at halftime, they won't get there.

Speaker 4 (01:20:37):
Great happened. It happened with him being the other day
shod fourteen a half time. You need over six, I
mean over sixteen and a half, and she had two
points tire second half.

Speaker 3 (01:20:45):
I you know, I don't know if we go to
the well again here, Jeff, Alyssa Thomas.

Speaker 2 (01:20:51):
She's been a triple double machine three in a row.

Speaker 3 (01:20:54):
That's you know, obviously in a WNBA record. See that
thirty two and a half points, rebounds and assists against
the Dream that could absolutely cash as well. Keep your
eye on that coming up next. Got to be the
worst relationship.

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
What is going on?

Speaker 3 (01:21:10):
Happy Sunday to you. Hope everything is going well for you.
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Speaker 6 (01:21:46):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:21:46):
So Colts quarterback Anthony Richardson he dislocated his right pinky
finger against the Ravens on Thursday night preseason action. It's
already banged up now, it doesn't look that serious. He
tried to throw a football on the sideline get back
in the game. It wasn't happening there. But it doesn't
look like this is gonna be a long term injury.

(01:22:08):
But he's banged up already, and like the deeper thing
here is this is a horrible relationship between the Colts
and Anthony Richardson.

Speaker 2 (01:22:16):
They're just both bad for each other.

Speaker 3 (01:22:19):
The Colts rushed them in there week one in his
rookie season when he's nowhere near ready, and Anthony Richardson
he can't pick up like this freed up rusher. He's
looking at the wrong side of the field that he
thought the corner was gonna be the guy like rushing him,
and it turned out to be this big, angry man

(01:22:40):
named David Ojabo who is really good against no one
blocking him, and he planted Anthony Richardson into the turf.
That's the quarterback's responsibility. You have to know the protection.
Everybody else was going out for a passing pattern for
a pass pattern, and.

Speaker 2 (01:22:55):
You just have to be able to pick up the coverage.

Speaker 5 (01:22:57):
He didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:22:58):
It was totally on him.

Speaker 3 (01:23:00):
This is year three and even though he's been banged up,
this is basic stuff and he's not.

Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
Getting that right.

Speaker 3 (01:23:07):
He also checked out of the game famously last year
when he was tired. His numbers in the NFL rifle
Tebow's now he's been freaking terrible.

Speaker 2 (01:23:16):
They can't stay upright.

Speaker 3 (01:23:17):
He's missed seventeen games, so he's been bad for them.

Speaker 2 (01:23:20):
They've been bad for him.

Speaker 3 (01:23:22):
It's been a disaster and I don't see this ending
well at all. This has got to be his last
year in Indianapolis, and the Colt's gonna have to go
back to the draft again try to get it right.
They use the top five pick, it's gonna flame out,
and they're gonna have to try to find someone next
year's draft. Most likely they don't have a quarterback in
the now or the future.

Speaker 4 (01:23:41):
So I put out a video about the play that
Richmond got hurt on because he's in year three and
it was just a very basic assignment era that he
made as a quarterback. I made a video on it.
Chase Daniel talked about it, talked about it. A whole
bunch of people talked about it. And what do I

(01:24:04):
get in my mentions? You don't know what you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:24:07):
Oh no, you're an offensive lineman. What ye like?

Speaker 4 (01:24:10):
The classic like it could be someone else's fault. Well,
do you know the either the offensive line, running back
and wide receiver did the wrong thing or the quarterback
is wrong and then Anthey richly acknowledge afterwards that he
was wrong, Like this is the problem where like it's
year three and we're not getting basic concepts correct and

(01:24:30):
pass protection, you know, Like it wasn't that he got hit.
You can hit, you can hit all the time. It
was the fact that he wasn't even looking in the
direction he had to look in to see what was happening.
And everyone has an assignment on every play. It's very
important you do your job on the play. If you

(01:24:52):
do your own thing, it doesn't work out. So the
right tackle did his job, the wide receiver looked hot,
the running back caught everyone did there talking except the quarterback.

Speaker 10 (01:25:02):
I know.

Speaker 4 (01:25:03):
People say, well the running back should have chiped him. No, no, no, no,
you have a job to do. It's expected that all
eleven guys do that job correctly. And then the Richard
in year three is not doing that job very well.
And we had talked for years about when you draft
a quarterback like him, you then have to develop him.

(01:25:23):
You're one, he gets hurt, okay, fine, but then last
season they benched him immediately and that's something all the growth.
So it's it's on the colts. The Colts didn't didn't
bring him along well enough. And it's not like Daniel
Jones played that much better than him. But I think
there's a trust level that Jones won't He's not gonna
make those mistakes. He's not gonna have protection problems. He's

(01:25:45):
not gonna make everyone look bad by getting hit like that.
You know, so richind and me feels like it's just
a bust. I I Michael Colts under haven't done it yet.
But the Texans win that division feels pretty much like
a lot. I don't. The price is still pretty cheap.
I think I just don't know how Jacksonville. I don't
really trust Lawrence the Colts quarterbacks back. I mean, I

(01:26:08):
don't know how you trust anyone, but you know, but
you know. But but the Texas in that division.

Speaker 5 (01:26:15):
Yeah, I think some of it has been bad luck
with the injuries and some of his playing style and
his playing so not protecting him himself. I really like
to see him get a full season healthy under his belt,
but it doesn't look like it's gonna happen this year. Uh.
My guess is that by the end of the season,
Daniel Jones has more starts for the Colts than Richardson.

(01:26:36):
The organ The organization though, is kind of a crossroads
after losing Israe and Er say, I mean, and then
you know, it's funny. He was here a couple of
times with his band. I actually almost went and seen him,
and and then something happened that night where I didn't.
But anyway, I know he was a little bit out
there and that. But of course we still feel bad

(01:26:57):
that he that he passed away. Uh So, anyway, now
it is free, daughters are are in charge. So it
would be interesting to see what identity this franchise takes
moving forward.

Speaker 3 (01:27:08):
Yeah, they have that's a good point. Cracks, they don't
have one. You don't have a starting quarterback. There was
a funny tweet I think leading up to that preseason
game or right around it, where it was like, you know,
whenever you feel bad about your team, just remember that
there are fans that root for a team that has
a Daniel Jones versus Anthony Richardson quarterback. So that's pretty rough, right.

(01:27:33):
You wake it up as a Colts fan like, all right,
we're getting close to week one and then this is
your reality, Like you have no ceiling of any note
with these two quarterbacks, and you could try to talk
yourself into well, I mean there's there's one team did
this and did that with this other quarterback.

Speaker 2 (01:27:51):
It's like your team.

Speaker 3 (01:27:51):
Doesn't have enough talent to compensate for not having a quarterback.

Speaker 4 (01:27:55):
Yeah, and interesting is like Warren looked good, like I mean,
there's some there's I'm like options for absolutely around him,
but it's just originally I don't think his avail is
good enough to really take advantage of all of that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:11):
Yeah. I like your point too.

Speaker 3 (01:28:12):
It's not just starting Anthony Richardson in week one of
his rookie year, like that was it had red shirt
written all over it. The guy barely played in college.
He threw under four hundred passing attempts in college. They
started in week one, like they should have waited, they
should have brought him along, and they didn't. They tried
him out there week one. So it just they rushed him.

(01:28:37):
Not smart. And he hasn't done any favors by them either.
Some of it's not his fault. Some of it is
just injuries.

Speaker 5 (01:28:44):
But like what happens when like Daniel Jones, so he
came over from the Giants four years I remember reading
one hundred and fifty one hundred. It might have been
one hundred and sixty million, So four years one hundred
and sixty million. Ye, So what happens to does the
the is the giants still paying him a poor of
that money or maybe it wasn't guaranteed like what it depends.

Speaker 4 (01:29:04):
It depends on how much guaranteed, depends on what money
you've guaranteed. That's essentially that that's what it is. I mean,
if you sell money guaranteed, then the giants are paying
out that guaranteed money.

Speaker 5 (01:29:14):
I mean, and does the Colt pay any of that
guarantee eight million? He's not.

Speaker 4 (01:29:18):
He's not traded. If he was traded, they would, but
he's not traded, so they're not on the hook for
that wow wow yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:29:26):
With he was with Minnesota in between.

Speaker 4 (01:29:29):
So that's why like you ended up with you know
what was uh, where was Russell Wilson last year?

Speaker 2 (01:29:36):
Pittsburgh?

Speaker 4 (01:29:37):
Pittsburgh. That's what I ended up with. Like they paid
him cheap because he was still getting money from Denver.
The need he didn't need like the top dollar. So
that that does happen in that direction crack where he
doesn't have to pay as much. But yeah, Jones is
I don't think he's getting paid by the Giants still.
I think that's probably over with.

Speaker 5 (01:29:52):
I don't know why money is always on the mine.
I'm always wondering these these big names. He's you know, like, uh,
you think about Cleveland. My god, what must be there?
I mean, what now they're still paying him? And was
that all guaranteed?

Speaker 4 (01:30:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:30:07):
Right? Yeah? Was it like two hundred and fifty million
thirty to and he still gets that?

Speaker 4 (01:30:13):
Just wow?

Speaker 2 (01:30:13):
Yeah, fully guaranteed.

Speaker 5 (01:30:15):
Fully guaranteed. Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:30:17):
That's why that's sick.

Speaker 3 (01:30:19):
That's what's amazing too, is it's not just the five
quarterbacks they have on the roster right now. They're still
paying Deshaun Watson more than probably all of them combined.
You know, like if you think about Flacco and Katie Pickett,
the two rookie, Chadure and Dylan Gabriel and they just
picked up Tyler Huntley and they're still paying Deshaun. Why

(01:30:40):
they got six dudes, they're still paying all of them
maybe once.

Speaker 5 (01:30:45):
So if you own a team years ago it was
a hobby, you have it, and you know you have it.
You know this is going back thirty forty not even
fifty sixty, seventy eighty more years now in twenty twenty five.
I know, if you own a Dallas Boys, of course
it's a money making machine. But if you own a team,
you know, I'll use a Jacksonville team. So are you

(01:31:08):
making money? Is the NFL you had that kind of
money coming in? Oh? Yeah, they're printing money. Yeah, I
just know there's so many ways to make money now
compared to you know, back in Let's let's face it,
every game you watch. Yesterday, I was watching a game,
I think when I came in late remember late game,
was I seen a sports book in the background, sponsor

(01:31:31):
in the stadium. I'm like, wow, I mean, I guess
the sports books really have helped these teams I would
think make.

Speaker 4 (01:31:40):
A lot of money. But they're printing money.

Speaker 2 (01:31:42):
Yeah, this came out.

Speaker 3 (01:31:43):
This was recent too, so it was like the last
week or two something like that. But late late July
where the NFL they the record payout was almost fourteen
billion dollars. So this is the twenty twenty four fiscal year.
We're talking about about fourteen billion dollars that they split.

Speaker 2 (01:32:06):
They gave every NFL team.

Speaker 5 (01:32:09):
Where does that come from? Bryan, where does it come from?

Speaker 2 (01:32:11):
All the all the money.

Speaker 5 (01:32:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:32:14):
The reason why, the reason why you know this crack
is because the Packers are publicly traded, so they have
to release the information of how much they make, and
you just extrapolate that obviously by thirty two teams. So
otherwise you wouldn't know because it's a private company, they
don't have to us to earn it. But the Packers
are public, so you learn from the Packers how much
you're you have to you know, all these other teams
are worth.

Speaker 2 (01:32:33):
Thank goodness for the Packers.

Speaker 3 (01:32:34):
But yeah, each team got four hundred and thirty two
point six million dollars. Wow, just like dividing up the pie,
like here you go, here you go, goal series.

Speaker 4 (01:32:44):
That's without obviously paying the players in their overhead but
like course so much. But the salary cap is I
don't know what two hundred. I forget even what's it
used to be. It keeps going up and up and up.
But no crack they're they're making.

Speaker 5 (01:32:57):
That's nothing to do with ticket sales and merchandise.

Speaker 4 (01:33:01):
So correct think about this. They're before this last couple,
this boom, the last five seven years of the sound
kept going up, especially with streaming services. There were owners
that were essentially like cash poor, like Mark Davis.

Speaker 5 (01:33:17):
Yes, Mark Davis is a perfect anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:33:20):
Not anymore, you ain't cash poor anymore. Like there are
some owners whose job is just the team they own,
and they're owners like Stan Cronke who are worth billions
of dollars or David Tepper. That thing is it's on
the side that they have right. But the owners that
only do the NFL, a lot of them can be
cash poor. Mark Davis is no longer cash poor, buddy, He's.

Speaker 5 (01:33:43):
Michael's, the most expensive restaurant in town. Every time I
got every night.

Speaker 4 (01:33:47):
I thought his think was cheesecake factory?

Speaker 5 (01:33:48):
Was that? Isn't that he's Michael's now, buddy, Maybe you
are right, he's the most expensive restaurant.

Speaker 4 (01:33:54):
He used to be like I think it was cheestcake
and John Greenys to talking about like cheesecake factory.

Speaker 5 (01:33:58):
Like that was like this, did I read some of it?
Used to brown bag it? Or no, no, that's not him.
I heard someone say that they used to bring a
brown bag to the stadium, and you know, you know,
and that's.

Speaker 4 (01:34:07):
So pf chains. He's a everyone sees them at PF
changs all the time, all right, I like PEF. That's
pretty funny, right.

Speaker 2 (01:34:15):
That's funny. Yeah, And listen, crag, that's just what they
split up between the teams.

Speaker 5 (01:34:20):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:34:20):
So the twenty twenty four fiscal year, the NFL's total
revenue surpassed twenty three billion dollars. So as a league,
they're bringing in that much. That's just the portion that
they're splitting up among the teams. It's ridiculous how much
money there.

Speaker 5 (01:34:35):
So I shouldn't feel bad for Cleveland then about paying out.

Speaker 3 (01:34:38):
No no collection bucket, no, no question bucket for the Browns,
But that is wild. Before they picked up Tyler Huntley,
I was, I was doing the math. I'm like, wait
a minute, I know they're paying five quarterbacks, and I went, oh,
we got Flacco, can he Pickett? The two rookies, who's
the fifth. I'm like, oh my gosh, Sean Watts. I
totally forgot. Yeah, the guy with the guaranteed who's injured

(01:35:01):
and not even playing, that's the that's the other guy.

Speaker 5 (01:35:04):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:35:05):
Isn't that amazing?

Speaker 5 (01:35:06):
Sick?

Speaker 3 (01:35:07):
If someone told you that when they made that trade
a couple of years later, you would forget, Like, about
that guy on the roster.

Speaker 2 (01:35:14):
Here we are, it's exactly where we're at, where we're at,
and how it played out. Crazy craziness.

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get off the air. All right, So Travis Hunter, you know,
he played both sides of the ball Jack's preseason debut
against the Steelers. Ten snaps at wide receiver, eight snaps
at dB and pretty good, right Like. He had two catches,
two very simple, you know, past patterns getting him involved,

(01:36:52):
and then he missed the tackle. But you know, not
a big deal whatsoever. Caleb Johnson sort of ran around him,
but not a bad day, you whatsoever. I'm curious to
what you guys think because it reminds me of his
head coach, Liam Cohen. So Liam, he was a guest
on the Rich Eisen Show recently and he had this
to say about possibly Travis Hunter winning both Rookie of

(01:37:16):
the Year awards.

Speaker 2 (01:37:17):
Check this out.

Speaker 4 (01:37:17):
Do you think he can be offensive end defensive Rookie
of the Year in the same year.

Speaker 6 (01:37:22):
I do think it's possible.

Speaker 1 (01:37:23):
He is committed man like he is committed to driving,
not just himself, but his teammates as well.

Speaker 3 (01:37:29):
Okay, my question to you guys is twofold, do you
think he even has a fighting chance to win both?

Speaker 2 (01:37:36):
And do you think his head coach truly believes he
has a fighting chance to win both?

Speaker 3 (01:37:41):
Or is this you know you're throwing a question and
you want to be like, yeah, that's probably far fetched.
I kind of doubt it. Rich You know, what do
you think about Lim's thoughts on this as well?

Speaker 4 (01:37:51):
I think he was being nice to his guy. Yeah here,
I still find this idea ludicrous. I watched that game yesterday.
He looked exhausted. That's his first NFL game, So sure
the emotions would play a little role of that. I
just don't know how he can physically play that many plays. Look,

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would you rather him be great at one position or
like good at two because he's so tired he can't
do either of them at the highest level, right, Like,
that's the question. I'd rather him excel at one position
and then just be the best at that position. And
the way it has to work is he has to
be either a full full time cornerback and a part

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time wide receiver. He can't do this thing where he
just goes in the middle of the game and plays corner.
It doesn't work that way. If I was scheming an
offense and I saw Travis Hunter show up in the
second quarter at cornerback, I go throw to him, go
after him. He's played wide receiver, ready for thirty steps.
Go after this guy, I would say, screens his direction.
I would just I just hit him. I just get
people to hit him like that. So that's the thing

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is like college, you get away. In college, you line
up on one side of the field on offense the
entire game, and then he sort of played one side
of the fielded cornerback, and he's just a better athlete.
He's a freak show. He's a better ath than anything else.
He's a great athlete, but he's not the best athlete
in the NFL. They're all great athletes. Like we saw
yesterday too. It's interesting. Okay, first preseason game, so like,
look great, it's out here. But he caught a couple

(01:39:24):
passes that in college he would break for long gains.
The first one was third and five. He's ran a
four yard route unfortunately, and then Nickel tackled him immediately.
That didn't happen in college. Like he's getting hit a
little bit more in its first it's just it's a lot.
It's a lot to do both. And then the reason
why we've seen no one do it now, Dion Right

(01:39:48):
full time cornerback, had one year where he had like
thirty catches on offense. Otherwise it doesn't happen in the NFL.
It's not a thing, Brian, So I would not bet
on him to win either of these awards. I've made
it clear, like I think o Mario Hampton wins Offensive
Rookie of the Year Defensive Rookie the Year. I bet
on Sweesssinger the linebacker for the Brown so far at

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forty to one, I don't even know what it's at now.
Probably should look it up. So these are markets. I
just don't doubt on these very much. But those are
the wages I've made so far for those markets. I
just don't think Travis Hunter will be good enough if
he splits reps to win those awards. I just don't
see it.

Speaker 5 (01:40:28):
Yeah, you know, I'm actually looking. I took some pretty
good odds on a couple of guys. I was trying
to see if I can find them. But all right,
so let me just talk about this first. So his
odds are like eight to one to win Defensive Rookie
of the Year and tend to one to win Offensive
Rookie of the Year. I think his chances are much
better to win defensive Rookie. I just don't think it's
possible to be, you know, an every down starter on

(01:40:51):
both sides. So I think he's gonna end up more
on the defense and he could be productive wide receiver though,
but I don't think he's going to see the ball
enough this year win the Offensive Rookie of the Year.
You got good odds there on? Did you get forty
to one?

Speaker 4 (01:41:05):
Yeah? The Browns yea Sweasenger, the Browns workie linebacker.

Speaker 5 (01:41:09):
Yeah, yeah, that's good odds. I bet let's see as offensive.
I bet I just bet a flyer here in town
on Hampton for offensive Rookie at the year because he
was sixteen to one. You know, it's hard to find.
You have to search all my outs for really good odds.
But yeah, no, you made a good bet. I now,

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I don't know that I might have put that in
the in the chat because I also bet Sweasterer, but
I bet it like months and months ago. Defensive Rookie
of the Year.

Speaker 4 (01:41:42):
No, I got it from a from a friend of
mine who really who's just yeah, he works. He's led
me in the right direction a couple of other times.
He said he'll get a lot of he'll start and
he'll get a lot of tackles off. Now, if they're
three and fourteen, he's not winning the award unfortunately, So
that's only that's only concern. But he'll have one hundred
and twenty tackle if he plays all season. And you know,
Darius Leonard, I think was the last one right to win,

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to win as a rookie as like just an off
the ball linebacker, and plus is just you know this,
it's it's a decent, decent number. So right now I'm
looking at it right now, Rookie of the Year. Hampton's
down a nine to one. I got eighteen to one there,
and Swettinger is I don't think he's down anywhere right now.
He's uh, I think still forty to one. Yeah, wow, wow.

Speaker 5 (01:42:26):
I would take a little you know what what, I
always call it a little peanut shot at forty to
one on him.

Speaker 2 (01:42:32):
Peanut bet.

Speaker 5 (01:42:33):
Yeah. No, that's good because I actually made a bet
on him too. But I was a little bit higher.
But that was a long time ago. Wow, to seem
to see now you may be able to search and
even find even better odds than that.

Speaker 2 (01:42:43):
So I would love to know what the odds are.

Speaker 3 (01:42:46):
You know, crack you mentioned it's about eight to one
Travis Center Defensive Player of the year, ten to one
Travis Hunter Offensive Player of the Year. What are the
odds Travis Hunter both Rookie of the Year award winner?

Speaker 5 (01:42:59):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:42:59):
Like to win bulls, That's the thing I could see
him winning one.

Speaker 5 (01:43:04):
You've seen the movie Casino with Robert DeNiro, Oh yeah, yeah.
You see when he says one is gods on that win.
It cannot happen, will not happen. You knew the line
right away.

Speaker 2 (01:43:17):
Yeah yeah, sure, yeah, yeah. So when he had to
fire the guy.

Speaker 5 (01:43:22):
You know, right right right right, Sorry about that. And
then I love the line where the county commissioner says,
is there anything further down the trulls?

Speaker 2 (01:43:32):
I got to give you that he is useless as
you know, right right yeah, and then he.

Speaker 5 (01:43:39):
Says, budd he is my brother in law, yes, and
then he's and then mister Rothstein, you'll never know how
it works out here. You're all just our guests, and
that that is what happened with Lefty Rosen's all in
real life. He was from out of town.

Speaker 3 (01:43:51):
And what does he say at the end, crack, y'all
just don't know it. Is that what he says, Yeah,
that's a great that whole thing.

Speaker 5 (01:43:59):
Y'all just don't know where. You're all just our guest.
And then he walks out. He goes right to the
gaming board and says, get this guy out of town,
and they run the town. Those county can By the way,
this is still a cowboy town. I know, it doesn't
seem like you guys see the neon lights and come here.
There's still some very powerful people here in town that

(01:44:23):
run this town. This isn't uh you know this, This
isn't like most towns in America. There's still some you know,
Oscar Goodman here. Think about him. He was he broke
all all the rules in life. I mean, he was
a lawyer, you know, famous lawyer. Then he was the mayor,
let's just call it between him and his wife for

(01:44:43):
over twenty years. You know, it's supposed to get two terms. Now.
I'm not saying nothing bad about Oscar. He's actually a
very nice guy, very approachable. We'll talk about the past,
we'll talk about things here. He was you know, if
you want, you watch that movie The Little Guy. Nikki
Santoro's real name in Light and Life was Torn mes Pilateral.
Oscar was his lawyer. Matter of fact, he plays himself

(01:45:05):
in the movie That's Oscar when Joe Pesky. But Joe
Pestry says, look at that Oscar over there, all the
money I gave him. I can't believe they let him
use his real name. But yeah, no, it's it's it's
an interesting town. But by the way, I've grown to
love the town. I really haven't and I've grown to
love it and love my life. My my, my different

(01:45:26):
routines here. Most people come in. You know, there was
a movie War Dogs. The guy said, I gotta get
out of here. He says. He says, forty eight hours
is enough in his town. And the guy goes, I
always say that, Jonah Hill says, I always say it's
forty eight hours. That's all you get. It's tough when
you come here. You're a party guy. You come in
Friday and Friday night you're hammering him you know, having

(01:45:50):
fun at the pool, drinking, gambling, and then by Sunday
morning you're like, I gotta get out of here. Look
at all the money at lost, Look what I did,
Look at the damage I did to my life. But yeah,
it's fun to live here.

Speaker 4 (01:46:01):
As someone who does frequent Vegas, you know, forty hours
does feel like a good enough time.

Speaker 5 (01:46:08):
Yeah. No, Jeff, Jeff that gets wrecked every trip I've
seen him.

Speaker 7 (01:46:10):
I know.

Speaker 4 (01:46:11):
Oh yeah, super wrecked. That's what that's me. They call
me Jeff Schwartz wrecked all the time.

Speaker 5 (01:46:17):
What do you mean?

Speaker 4 (01:46:18):
What do you make of Like? I feel like the
last week there's been a lot written about sort of
the lack of people coming to Vegas. I feel like
the last couple is that? Is that really a thing?

Speaker 5 (01:46:28):
That it's real? It's real as far as foot traffic
goes down fourteen to seventeen percent depending on who you
listen to, and by the way, good sources foot traffic wise, However,
the thing I see, I'm a gambler. I see the
gambling numbers stayed the same or even went up in
certain parts of town. It didn't go down over last

(01:46:49):
year's numbers. By the way, the forecasted numbers over the
last couple of years. They have absolutely crushed by double digits.
So nobody is taking up collection buckets for the Cleveland
Browns or anyone in Las Vegas that's a casino owner
or corporations. They are doing just fine. They're just below

(01:47:10):
the numbers that they were last year of foot traffic,
which that means is the non gaming revenue. I put
up a sweet last night. I walked through Caesar's Palace.
I had to see what Buddy ve's. By the way,
you know, I've actually been with Buddy. I'm not trying
to pick on him. Caesar's will set that price. They'll say,
Buddy wants sale, give me. I want to charge them

(01:47:31):
seven dollars, Like no, no, no, no, They'll pay twelve
to slice. They have to cazars. That's the prices. So
going through the food court, I was like, wait, hold, hold,
hold it. This is twelve dollars for a slice. That's
thirteen with tax for one slice of pizza. So thirteen
bucks of slice, two slices of Minnesota was thirty three dollars.
Of course I didn't get it. I had to be

(01:47:51):
nosy and asked somebody else but I knew what it
was though, just figuring out. I just wanted to, like
to ask him anyway, and he's like yeah, but you know,
I actually asked the guy. He's like, yeah, you're in Vegas,
that's okay, you know. And by the way, he's from
New York. And I was like wow, And then I
had to ask him. I actually I had to asked him.
He said, Now, a slice to be to New York's
like six bucks, you know, seven bucks, five bucks dance

(01:48:12):
on specials, so you're paying you know, two and a
half times that in places like Vegas. I don't know.
Maybe it's La and Miami too, I don't know, but
this is at of these food courts. By the way,
I'm not trying to pick on Caesars. There's three different
casinos in town that have pizza joints. Every one of
them is ten dollars or more for a slice. That's
insane to me, insane. So they're really, really I want

(01:48:34):
to use the word price gouging. They're charging people for
parking now at every casino, the resort fees fifty sixty
bucks a night on top of your regular fee. At
least that launch has changed. If you go to get
a room now in Vegas on one of the sites,
one of the big sites, that resort fee has to
be included in that price, so you don't get a
surprise when you go to check in. I like that
and the foot traffic though right now, listen, go to

(01:48:57):
a property like Caesar's or some more center strip on
a Saturday. You can't even move. So I don't know.
I'm not really into the negative put down Vegas. We're
doomed and this and that. Listen, they're making plenty of money.
Gambling is actually up from last year. Look, I told
you no, No, Vegas is fine.

Speaker 2 (01:49:18):
All right, we got to get to I Low, I
Low with the latest. What's going on, buddy, Well the latest?

Speaker 9 (01:49:25):
In honor of your reference to the movie Casino about odds, listen,
do you have.

Speaker 4 (01:49:30):
Any idea what the odds?

Speaker 9 (01:49:31):
Shoot, it's got to be in the millions, maybe more?

Speaker 5 (01:49:34):
Oh yes, perfect, you know what.

Speaker 6 (01:49:38):
My actual favorite part of that movie was Don Rickles.

Speaker 9 (01:49:42):
I love its inspired bit of casting right there, brilliant.

Speaker 6 (01:49:48):
Also brilliant.

Speaker 9 (01:49:49):
In the NFL preseason on Saturday Night, Jacksonville Kicker Cam
Little at a thirty one to twenty five loss, to
the Pittsburgh Steelers. Little nailed US seventy yard field goal
well as time expired to the first half.

Speaker 6 (01:50:01):
It would have.

Speaker 9 (01:50:02):
Broken the NFL record by four yards had it been
a regular season game. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers over the
Tennessee Titans twenty nine to seven. As number one overall
draft pick, cam Ward completed five out of eight through
sixty seven yards in his two drives of three and out.
He then led an eleven play sixty five yard touchdown drive.
Jets won at Green Bay thirty to ten. Jets quarterback

(01:50:23):
Justin fields three out of four for forty two yards
and a thirteen yard touchdown run on his only series,
which was a ten place seventy nine yard touchdown drive.
Arizona over the Kansas City Chiefs twenty to seventeen. Patrick
Homes played three snaps, a handoff in incompletion, and a
one yard touchdown pass. However, Chief safety Dion Bush tore
his achilles in the game and will be out for

(01:50:44):
the season. Baseball Saturday Night Mariners over the Tampa Bay
Race seven to four. Cal Rawly is forty fourth home
run to leave the Majors show. Hey o'tani his fortieth
home run in the Dodgers nine to one win over
the Toronto Blue Jays.

Speaker 2 (01:50:58):
Guys, thank I lo.

Speaker 3 (01:51:00):
It is Fox Sports Radios Countdown presented by Bett MGM.
You mentioned this earlier in the show Jeff where Maurice
Norris of the Detroit Lions. It was scary injury preseason
game against the Atlanta Falcons, and it was the beginning
of the fourth quarter.

Speaker 2 (01:51:16):
He just went in for a hit right the running
backs carrying the ball up the middle.

Speaker 3 (01:51:20):
Maurice Norris went in for a hit and you know,
hit the wall carrier's leg and his neck snapped back
and it was a scary scene. Right like, he was
on the field for twenty minutes. They took him out
on a stretcher, put him in the ambulance, the whole thing.
But what was strange about this is not only did
they suspend the game, they called the game off, but

(01:51:43):
it was the path toward that, you know, because I
wasn't watching it live and I just looked at the
play by play and I'm like, okay, so we got
hurt is the first play of the fourth quarter, and
then the game was called with six minutes and thirty
one seconds left.

Speaker 2 (01:51:56):
I'm like, wait, what happened? So they're at.

Speaker 3 (01:51:59):
Midfield and they agreed to snap the ball and just
let the clock run. They let the clock run for
what over nine minutes, and then eventually New York called
the NFL was like, all right, the game's over, and
the official made the announcement.

Speaker 2 (01:52:13):
It's so strange that it worked out the way it did.

Speaker 4 (01:52:17):
Okay, So that's what. Okay, so you answered. You just
said to me that I was very curious about. So
when the clock was running, that was actually a play happening, right,
because they weren't calling delay of games. I was like,
what is it? Why they get snapped the ball just
decided to not play.

Speaker 2 (01:52:32):
Yeah, they're just standing at midfield, both teams.

Speaker 4 (01:52:36):
And interest So that's why they I kept wondering, like
why why is there no delay of game?

Speaker 7 (01:52:41):
Like what what?

Speaker 4 (01:52:42):
What's happening here? And so the rule for most books
is fifty five minutes, right, the game has to be played,
so sportsbooks. So this was about twelve minutes left in
the fourth quarter. They held the ball for six minutes,
like it ended at six minutes. If we waited one
more minute, I think I would have cashed my line's
money line.

Speaker 5 (01:53:02):
Right. Yeah, yeah, that that's I tell you, that's a
that's a shame that didn't this happen last preseason multiple times.

Speaker 2 (01:53:10):
Yeah, two years ago there were two games it lightning or.

Speaker 5 (01:53:14):
Something on one of almost lightning.

Speaker 4 (01:53:17):
Well, I mean, look, I think obviously there's a sensitivity
with what happened with Hamlin, right, which I mean makes
twelve sense. This is not you know again like this
appears to not be well, nothing actually is close to
that because he died. But the reaction from the medical
personnel was so extremely I went back and watched it

(01:53:39):
on YouTube TV. You know, you can rewind it and
whatnot or maybe a NFL dot calm whatever you can
watch it on. I mean the reaction there were two
there were two carts out there, an ambulance and probably
fifty medical personnel yep. And I think it just was
a concussion, like that's what it was. And I think

(01:54:00):
he had a seizure. I think they said maybe had
a seizure. I don't know. I didn't see it on
the field. That's a big reaction for concussion. That's the
reaction you got when DeMar Hamlin, right, Like, so I
think that there's the training staffs and doctors are so alert.
Plus two, it's interesting about this. It's just so you know,
all these medical staffs practice these emergencies, and this is

(01:54:23):
preseason game one. They were probably had just practiced this,
to be honest with you, like just practice like hey,
everyone call like hey, emergency, got a call, you know,
like they're on the rate. So everyone's like geared to
like we just practiced this, like let's go. And there
was a lot of personel on the field for what
ended up being And again I'm pro being cautious, obviously
be as cautious possible, but I think that just scared

(01:54:43):
a lot of people into thinking this was a DeMar
Hamlet situation, which it wasn't. And so that's why the
game ended up because again I found it odd they
canceled the game. I just I did. I mean I
I there was still twelve minutes left. There was plenty
of time for players to play. Guy breaks his leg,
gets card off that you continue to play.

Speaker 10 (01:55:02):
So uh, just from what I from want to understand
about the situation, like the ability to actually cancel the
game rest solely with the NFL office. So this was
basically like a decision by Dan Campbell and signed off
by Raheem Morris basically like they don't want to play
the rest of the game. We're just gonna kneel it out.
It was like completely in the purview of the coaches,
but like the so that's why they did it. It's just,

(01:55:24):
you know, the only one who can actually cancel the
game is the league office, and they just did not
move on this.

Speaker 4 (01:55:29):
Well because that's because it's it's a weird It's not weird,
it's they've never done this before like that. I mean
they I guess if the teams decide they're not going
to play, if to cancel the game, but I thought
it was just again I had not seen that before.
I guess the question is like what injuries are gonna
cancel preseason games? Like if if a star player breaks

(01:55:52):
his leg and a cart comes out, are you done playing?
Like what is the threshold for like I don't want
to play anymore?

Speaker 5 (01:56:00):
Sure?

Speaker 3 (01:56:01):
Yeah, and listen, we're we're glad that Maurice Norris he
put it out there in social media like hey, I'm good,
you know, don't don't worry about me. That's great, And
I get the precaution. We're not pushing back on, Hey, well,
what's the deal, like, finish the game?

Speaker 2 (01:56:15):
You know, I get it. It was a scary scene.

Speaker 3 (01:56:17):
He's carted off, he's in an ambulance, you know, So
if you want to cancel the game, I get it.
But it's just strange that after he was carted off
or driven out of the stadium in the ambulance, they
snapped the ball and just let the clock run right
for minutes and minutes and then it's called I so strange.

Speaker 4 (01:56:37):
The NFL office probably was like to figure it out,
that's what happened.

Speaker 2 (01:56:42):
Yeah, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:56:44):
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Speaker 5 (01:57:10):
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Speaker 2 (01:57:36):
We got some picks to make.

Speaker 5 (01:57:37):
Let's do it.

Speaker 4 (01:57:41):
Rapid fire.

Speaker 2 (01:57:43):
All right, Brack, we'll start with you with something you like.

Speaker 5 (01:57:46):
All right, let's let's go over to the Mets today.
This Metropolitan's boy, there they're up and down all You're
always picked to do great for the year and always
never get there in the end. Let's go with the
Mets today plus even money at betmgm Mets for the
full game. All right, there we go, Right there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:58:07):
Got the Mets scuffling and the Newords are crushing it.
But hey, sometimes it goes the other way.

Speaker 5 (01:58:14):
I get it.

Speaker 4 (01:58:16):
I mentioned the two WNBA players I like, actually like
a third in that game. Brian Diggins had zero points
last game. Zero points. I think she's over fourteen and
a half, so I played her over fourteen and a
half again, I mean zero like a professional like she
had triple double like two weeks ago, zero points, So

(01:58:37):
in twenty minutes, I think she was over today.

Speaker 3 (01:58:40):
You guys tell me if this makes any sense to
you whatsoever. Okay, So I'm looking at the Marlins at
the Braves. I like over eight and a half runs,
So a couple of reasons. Not exactly a star studded
pitchers duel, if you will, Cal Quantrill and Joey Wentz.
Their eras are nothing right home about, So I think

(01:59:00):
that alone lends itself to a higher scoring game. But
how about this, We've got history being made. Jen Powell
shout out to her, she'll be the first female umpire.
She'll be behind the plate today calling balls and strikes.
I think it's gonna be a tight strike zone. I
don't think we're gonna see outside strikes, low strikes being called,
like she's gonna be graded harshly, fair or unfair. So

(01:59:24):
I think she's she's gonna be trying to be as
accurate as possible calling balls and strikes. So I think
that lends itself to you're not gonna get easier outs
from time to time. Right, So let's take over eight
and a half in that Marlins Braves game today.

Speaker 4 (01:59:39):
Pretty cool story, right, first it is. Yeah, she did
the basic yesterday in both games, and now she gets
the dish and the finale.

Speaker 5 (01:59:46):
I think it's great. We're gonna have the Major League
Baseball testing out these robot i'mps. So male female lumps
joined maybe you know, you know, I gotta be honest
with you, male or female lumps. I should say they
may be in trouble down the line.

Speaker 3 (02:00:00):
Yeah, yeah, right, if they if they can make it
as fast as possible with the abs like robot umps.

Speaker 2 (02:00:07):
Yeah, maybe, yeah, maybe we got cracks play of the day.

Speaker 5 (02:00:10):
Let's do this.

Speaker 7 (02:00:13):
This is the best play of the day.

Speaker 2 (02:00:17):
Man, All right, crack, what do you have for us?

Speaker 5 (02:00:20):
We're gonna go to the first half as long as
they didn't go to twenty, which it didn't bet MGM
nineteen and a half, Dolphins Bears over first half over
nineteen and a half, looking for some points in that
game like every other game. So let's go first half
over in that game.

Speaker 2 (02:00:34):
All right, very nice.

Speaker 5 (02:00:36):
I gotta continue with the trend. Someone just texts me
that the underdogs were eleven and one this week.

Speaker 4 (02:00:41):
Yeah, wow, I know that question.

Speaker 2 (02:00:45):
Wow, dogs are barking.

Speaker 3 (02:00:47):
Yeah, It's like almost if the team projects to be
really ugly in the regular season, just just met them
blankly in the preseason. You know, there's something to be
said for that. All Right, good stuff is always good.
Hanging with you guys, Jeff and I in early tomorrow,
filling in

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