Steve Hartman & Nikki Kay Talk Expectations For Caleb Williams, NBA Schedule Release & More!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Please, you're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio living the
dream once again here on a fully loaded Sports Saturday.
This is Fox Sports Saturday, and we are broadcasting live
from the Fox Sports Radio studios. This is a long
time coming, folks, where two UCLA Bruins.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
It is a pleasure, it is a privilege, It is
an honor to be sharing the studio with you, Steve.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Nickie, we are living large here, Nikki, We sure are.
We are living large. We've been sharing some stories before
we even got on the air today. I've been watching
you obviously, I've been listening to you all the time,
and now we finally get hooked up together. Nicki. Now
I was our boss here, Scott Shapiro. I was kidding
with him that Nicki is now the one hundred person

(00:46):
that I've co hosted a show with here on weekends.
They are Fox Sports rats. You know what I'm talking about.
Let's make it a habit here, Niki. So how you
doing nick here? I mean, are you at that point
right now? It's sort of an awkward time with football
because you know, second week of the preseason, we have
another week of preseason, and then you have a bye week,

(01:07):
and then you finally get to the regular season. So
where is your mindset? I know we have weeks zero
for college football next year, Bro, where do you sit
right now from a football.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
St I was just going to say week zero for
college football, but it's a slate of what four games
sometimes Saturday, right right, So it's a It just seems
like we've been being teased over and over and is
this a safe space? Steve? Can I be quite frank
with you, preseason football? I don't give a darn well.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
You know, it's amazing to say that because obviously there
is no reason other than you know, worries about injuries
everything else. But one of the reasons I wanted to
ask you about preseason so we've seen this. We go
back to twenty twenty right where there was no preseason
because of the COVID season, and the NFL looks suspiciously

(01:55):
normal throughout that season. You're like, why do we have
preseason games other than risking injuries of players? But I
saw this. I was talking last night with local TV
in LA and Justin Herbert, the.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Chargers quartering he's playing today.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
He is playing in his first ever preseason game.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Now.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
His rookie season was the COVID year, so there was
no preseason. He has never played in a preseason game,
but he went to Jim Harbaugh and said, I want
to play, and I also obviously want to be surrounded
by my starting offensive line, some of my skill guys.
Harbo seems to be an old school guy where he
actually can see some benefit in getting out on the

(02:35):
field and playing some preseason football. But how would you
handle this because the new school guys like Sean McVay,
the the Chargers playing the Rams. Ram guys are going
to sit again. That's that's sort of the new school.
But old school says, well, at the very least.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Get out there, take some snaps. I think, all in all,
it's good to get right your underneath you before charging
into a full on season, right, and you want you
don't want guys going in cold and getting injured in
game one or early on. So I do understand the
reason for the preseason, so to speak. But I also

(03:17):
I'm just curious, like, do we need full games right?
I think a lot about how college football does it
with the spring scrimmages or showcases, and they're a little
bit of brief.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
I was going to say in your time at UCLA.
How many preseason games did UCLA have?

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Well, well, here's the thing I worked. I worked for
the college football team under Jim Morrow. And you were
just sharing me a story and a story with me,
and I told you I need to hear this on airline.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Will give you this story.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
So I was at UCLA during the gym more days.
I was a recruiting assistant for the football team. I
had so much fun learned from the likes of Nol Mazoni.
Jeff Ulbrick was in the office at the time, so
it was it was eye opening to me in terms
of what a what a collegiate football program was building
and turning around to be. That team went on to

(04:03):
be one of the more successful ones in UCLA recent history.
But you were telling me a story hearkening back to
your radio days.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Well, yeah, so Jim Mora, the young Jim Mora before
he went to UCLA, and of course he had obviously
been a former NFL head coach. He had this sort
of interval where he was a contributor for Fox Sports Radio,
amongst other things. Wasn't his only gig so, but he
hadn't been on for a while, and I was on

(04:33):
the air with my partner at the time, and in
my ear as we're talking, my producer yells, hey, we
got Jim Mora on the line. So no preper we
had nothing like, okay, what coach, welcome on, A little
a little.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Pull behind the peek, behind the curtain here. When you're
getting information like that lat time, you have to process it, right.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
I mean, you could throw a name at me and
I can get into an interview quite quickly. So but
you know, I bring him on and Jim, how are
you a coach? You know, coach? I say, coach, how
are you hello? Blah blah blah, and you know, we
we were talking some NFL stuff, and so we're just
going back and forth talking NFL and I said, I go,

(05:19):
you know, it's amazing, coach, all these years that you've
been around, all these years. I mean, you still have
that youthful enthusiasm and everything else. And he's like and
and he didn't say anything there, and he just said yeah.
And then I continued on and then I made some
reference that would be specifically toward the older Jim Morrow.

(05:43):
So we've we've been doing it with This is a
ten minute interview, and then all of a sudden, the
young Jim Ore goes, uh, you know, this is the
younger Jim Moore.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Had that live during the interview.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yes, oh my. Now, Now when you're thrown into that situation,
you're like, oh, I knew that, you know. And I'm
like and I'm looking at my producer like hello, But
I didn't say anything to the producer on there. I'm like, oh, ye,
courts coach, you know I do coach. Yeah, he reveled
in that, though he wanted me to twist in the wind.

(06:17):
So this sort of got me into a mindset with
the young gym.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Mora a little adversarial.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Well, because his predecessor at UCLA, Rick Neuheisel, was a
dear friend of mine, going literally yeah, great family and
I've known literally Rick since he was a freshman quarterback
at UCLA. So I mean that's how far back I
go with Rick. And I felt like, you know, Moris
sort of leaped on all the talent that had been

(06:45):
brought in by and you know, right place, right time.
It's not it's not uncommon, but unfortunately for Rick, when
he brought in Brett Huntley, he got hurt right before
his freshman year he had a red shirt that year
and so he never got the benefit. So unfortunately he
had to play without the kind of quarterback that Jim
Mora was afforded, which of course result in three strang

(07:06):
wins against the US.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
I'm gonna, you know, challenge you a little bit on
that assumption and notion from having friends who were on
the team who were juniors and seniors. When Jim Mora
came in, Rick was a players coach. There was a
lot of low for New Heisl and when Jim came in,
that mandated a level of buy in from the guys,

(07:30):
you know, and a culture reset, and it was it
was tough. It was a lot more, a lot more structure, rules,
and the expectations were were harsher. I think in terms
of what you know, the tail end of the New
Heiseel era kind of felt like so I do think
you can look at it as more inheriting the great

(07:51):
recruiting work of New Heisel, but also he did create
a culture that was appealing and and the guys bought in.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
But you were there at the beginning of the More era.
The end of the More era was not so good.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
Well, listen, you know, there's all sorts of shades I.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
And you know, I always want to pull back the curtain.
We can only there's some personal things that Mora was
also engaged with during his UCLA days that don't have
to do with that, but no, I And the other
thing that sort of got me about Jim Moore was
the Josh Rosen situation. So here's I'll pull back the
curtain on Josh Rose. So Josh Rosen, I you know

(08:31):
working television in LA I was there for a couple
of his high school games, and he was the number
one rated pro style high school quarterback in the country.
It wasn't even close, and we saw flashes. Obviously, the
incredible comeback against Texas A and M which you go
back that'll go down in history is one of the
greatest comebacks in the history of any level of football.

(08:52):
So when Josh was drafted first round, goes down to
the Arizona Cardinals, and I have someone I've worked with
a very tight with that team.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
And what was the comment he made on draft night just.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
He basically made with it the every team that passed
on me will forget He honestly went on the record
saying I will win more Super Bowls than Tom Brady
said all of this. So when Rosen went to Arizona,
and this is after playing three years at UCLA, friend
of mine who is a friend of offensive lineman, they

(09:28):
were in a state of shock that Josh Rosen, who
by all means is a very bright guy, was literally
illiterate when it came to reading basic defenses. Basic defense.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
It seems like we're gossiping right now.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
Well, I mean it's it's a fact. This is what
the guy said. The reason that he was a one
and done with the Arizona Cardinals and then yelled on
immediately to Miami and then of course they ended up
drafting Kyler Murray the next season is that he literally
hadn't He came out of UCLA like he had never
played college football. They were in state of shock because

(10:05):
he could throw the ball, he could do things, but
in the NFL you've got to recognize certain basic things.
That's and they were like, who's his coach? And so
that was something else that suck with me. So if
you really want to pull back the curtain n again
and there there's nothing off.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
On UCLA football, all.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Right, We're going to put that to rest. I promise
you that. Oh, we got a lot to do today.
We're gonna get Yeah, Adam Kaplan's going to be joining
us on the next hour. He's been toning all the
NFL training camps. We're going to get into all of that.
But coming up on the other side, we're going to
take a break a little bit from this preseason football
and check out check out some of the NBA schedule release.

(10:46):
We do have a schedule oft for the NBA. We're
going to talk about, you know, again, a lot of
things still happening offseason. There's never an offseason in any sport.
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Just search Fox Sports Radio on YouTube. All right, Yes,
in the midst of getting ready for the football season,
we got a lot of NBA news to get to
our NBA Insider, The great Mark Medina is joining us
once again. So Mark, the schedules are out. So when

(12:29):
you see like, the schedules are out. And by the way,
it was a good thing for TV for me a
couple of days ago because literally we had a Thursday
with nothing going on so I literally was running down
the Lakers schedule.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Can we do some light read Aeron?

Speaker 1 (12:43):
It was exactly that, Nikki, the Clippers schedule, you know,
highlighting games and everything else. But what do you look for?
Is there anything that stands out for you when they
release the schedules? Mark?

Speaker 7 (12:56):
Yeah, See, there's three things I look for. Who's playing
Opening Night, who's playing on Christmas Day? And when are
the so called NBA revenge games, you know with star
players facing their former teams for the first time or
a rivalry type of game. So those are the three
things I think what was interesting with Opening Night this year. Yeah,

(13:17):
it's the Lakers Warriors. You have Lebron and Steph Curry,
but you have the Oklahoma City Thunder defending Shams. They're
going to get their rings right in front of Kevin Durant,
who's now going to be with the Houston.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
Got a little razzle dazzle there. No, you know what, Mark,
First and foremost, Happy Saturday. Second of Allday. How many
TV subscriptions are we going to need? My streaming services?
It's I mean, these these outlets are the platforms. We've
got Prime, We've got Peacock, we've got NBC. We've got
it's it's kind of obnoxious with how how we have

(13:53):
to keep track of games this season. But I'm curious,
what was your reaction to seeing Oklahoma's he finally getting
that Christmas game as well?

Speaker 7 (14:02):
Right, yeah, they got a Christmas Day game and they
have thirty four national TV games. You know which other
teams have that? The Lakers, the Knicks, the Warriors, They're
always going to be the high exposure teams. Big market
teams have star players. But the Thunder they got their due.
They're the defending champs. Now you may think, well, duh,
you should showcase the defending champs, but we've seen the

(14:24):
past that not you know, not the casual NBA fans
or general unters. Fans always care about excellent teams. Think
of the San Antonio Spurs in the two thousands, even
the Denver Nuggets in twenty twenty three. Those teams, even
though they play well, didn't always move the needle. But
to what you were saying, Nikki about all these different
TV platforms, I'm sure Steve you agree it's a headache.

(14:47):
I mean, I guess it's better that the NBA did
take put out a user guide on which channel is
going to show the national TV game, so I can
read it down real quick. Sunday, ABC, Nbcpacock, Monday, Peacock Talk, Tuesday, NBC.
Peacock went to the ESPN Thursday Prime, Friday Prime in ESPN,
Saturday Prime in ABC. But you know what, that's a

(15:08):
lot of things to remember. Number one and number two
for every channel that I just rotted off, that probably
means now you have an extra monthly expense rescription. So
the NBA, look, they got a lot of money out
of this steal, but ultimately it's always the fans that
have to foot the bill.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Well, one hundred percent with you on that one. Also,
you know, sort of lurking in the shadows, has been
this story that came out this week that the NBA
and the Players Association say they support further limitations on
the types of bets, you know, the reduced manipulation. Obviously,
we had, you know, the Porters situation, Beasiley under investigation Roseer.

(15:47):
I mean, it's it's one of those things and it's
almost like the Tim donaghey situation, where you well, we
had this rogue official that by the way, we weren't
actually investigating the guy. It was only by accident we
found out that this guy was manipulating games for his benefits.
But when you really look at this mark, you're talking
about a league, like all these professional leagues that have

(16:09):
gotten into bed with the gambling industry. So this is
a fine line where you want to get that gambling
money in. We're going to take that money, but we're
going to clamp down so that we don't want our
players involved in any kind of way to you know,
jeopardize a so called integrity of our sport. How exactly
is this going to play out?

Speaker 7 (16:32):
The troubling part about the answer to that question is
no one knows, And that's really the Pandora's box of
the NBA hopes that they can keep a lit on,
but you never fully know. It's one thing for players
like Terry Rosier or Malik Beasley or Johontey Porter of
players that have been suspected, really no one's ever heard

(16:52):
of those players. So with exceptional us, if there is
a star player that gets involved, all hell breaks lose.
Now I think practic we speaking because of how much
money these players make and this would really destroy their careers.
You would think they would not get involved with that
because it's not worth the risk. But I think the
low hanging fruit that the league and the players Union

(17:15):
can agree upon is it's one thing to be in
partnership with these gambling companies as another revenue stream and
fans gamble on games. But what's really dicey here are
these prop bets for two reasons. One, I think players
could get could get away with this kind of betting
a lot easier than the actual game outcome because prop

(17:38):
bets just go down really into the minutia of how
many points of players scoring, how many rebounds, how many assists.
But on the other end, for the Players Association, their
very sense of the fact that a lot of fans
are sending messages to players on social media or even
yelling out things in the stands if they don't reach
that prop bet. So the problem really is twofold on

(18:02):
if players would ever give into that specific temptation, as
well as just the pressure and the threatening messages that
fans might give to those individual players if heaven't forbid
they fall one short of a rebound or assists for
that fan to make a substantial amount of money that night.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
It's a slippery slope. For sure, and a lot of
gray area on the horizon. Now, Mark, I mean just
looking at the Western Conference, it is stacked and yeah,
I mean you talk about the thunder right, but then
you've got teams like the Spurs, the Rockets. They're young,
they're hungry, they're on the rise. Who's a team that

(18:40):
nobody is really talking about that we or maybe not
talking about enough when you look at the Western Conference
picture and how it's all going to stack up by
a come postseason.

Speaker 7 (18:51):
Yeah, I think that's a good question, Niki, because I
think that there is tiers. It's the Thunders the championship
to lose. I really only think the Rockets are the
Nuggets have a realistic chance to upset them. But as
far as teams that could be sneaky good, I think
there are a lot of what ifs with these teams.
With Dallas Mavericks, they have Cooper Flagg, they have Anthony

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Davis who's supposedly going to be healthy. They have a
lot of good pieces in place, but there's also question marks.
Can a d stay healthy? Injury history suggests no. Kyrie Irving,
He's coming back from an acl middle of the season.
You always expect players coming off of acl injuries, you're
not fully the same players. So they're the ultimate wild
card team that you have to pay attention to, but

(19:34):
you also have to think, okay, they're vulnerable. Same thing
with the Memphis Grizzlies. John Moran's back, they're really good.
They got Contavious Calwell Pope in a trade, but they
also traded Desmond Bayan, who is a heart and soul
of their team. And so there's a lot of wild
card teams and then the second tier. You know, you
look at Lakers, Clippers, you know, the Minnesota Timberwolves, Warriors.

(19:57):
They're all playoff teams, but I I don't really think
they have enough to really contend for a title unless
there's major injuries. With those three other teams with Oklahoma, Steady,
Houston and Denver. But the bottom line is this, Nicky,
it's a very competitive Western Conference, so it's going to
be very fluid among the movement within those three tiers

(20:19):
of types of teams.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
All right, So have I missed it? Or have the
Lakers actually made an organizational announcement acknowledging that Lebron James
picked up his player option. Have they actually come out
and said, oh, by the way, Lebron has picked up
his option for the upcoming season. Has that actually happened yet?

Speaker 7 (20:43):
Well, Rob Polinka spoke August second when Luka Doncic extended
his contract. Now he didn't say literally the words she
picked up his option, but he did pick up his
option because that's the deadline. I think June twenty ninth
what Rob Polinka did say, and I think that's this
company line and also showing that they don't have to

(21:04):
be warm and fuzzy with Lebron, but they can be
transactional and be professional. They Rob Palinka said that his
dealings with Lebron and Rich Paul have been very pleasant,
very professional. He said it would mean a lot if
he retires as a Laker, And I think the other
thing that he said that predated that is that no

(21:24):
matter what, when Lebron has eye expectations of a roster,
will do what we can. But regardless, he always plays
at one hundred and ten percent and relishes any role.
I think you connect the dots here, Steve. They don't
have to be on the same page or be best friends,
but I think both sides are very much going into
the season that it's transactional relationship. He'll suit up, he'll

(21:48):
do his job, and the front office will do whatever
they think is best fit for the organization. Does that
mean Lebron retires as a Laker? Technically, they say they
would love for that to have him. But for that
to happen, Lebron would either have to decide this is
his final year of his career or if he decides
to return, it would have to be at you know,

(22:11):
a pay cut, and the fact that he is still
playing at all start Carber level at this stage of
his career. But there's always questions about durability when you're
forty plus years old. There's a lot of unknowns on
both sides with that.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
All right, So I'm going to bring up a question
we've sort of touched upon before. So let's say we
get to the start of the season, all right, season
starts in October. Because we know this Lebron James wants
the farewell tour. Okay, he's not going to, like, you know,
play a season announce his retirement after the season. That's

(22:45):
not happening. So if he said on the eve of
the start of the season, I have made the decision
that this is my final NBA season. I want to
end my career as a Los Angeles Laker this season
with Mark Walter taken over as the principal owner of
this team, will they give him the spotlight for this

(23:07):
entire season as a farewell thank you for Lebron in
light of the fact that we now recognize that this
is very much Luka Doncic's team.

Speaker 7 (23:18):
Yeah, Steve, I think that's a great question. I think
that knowing how the Lakers are, they would give Lebron
that farewell tour type of treatment because the Lakers are
about being the entertainment capital of the world in the NBA.
And secondly, I think that they can differentiate between the
farewell tour, the hoopla and the scenery, but the basketball

(23:39):
court itself is all about Luka Doncris. I think the
ironic part here, Steve, with Lebron is that when you're
looking at his role with Luca and for the most
part of his basketball career, he has done the right
things about being a team player, playing the right way
and all that. It's all the off the court things
and I don't mean, you know, gain in trouble, but

(23:59):
it's more about how he is with the front office,
how much pressure he's putting on the head coach. Those
are the things that have been really a bit of
a challenge. So I think what you outlined, frankly is
almost like the best case scenario for both sides. Then
for the Lakers, that they could do the Foo Plut
treatment for him. But on the court, it's all about
Luka Dacic being the guy and Lebron James being the

(24:22):
second guy. I think what's challenging here is Lebron might think,
because he still is playing at all star caliber level,
you know what, I don't want this to be my
final year. I want to keep playing after that. And
that's where the collision courts could eventually happen at the
end of next season, because next season is when he'll
become a free agent and.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
Mark not enough has been made about the troll meter
Lebron hit by posting a picture in a gym in
front of a Clippers Yeah, that was That to me
was a direct shot at the Lakers organization because if
you know, if you know, within the walls of Purple
and Gold, they do not acknowledge the existence of the

(25:07):
team across town. So that to me was a direct
shot at the Lakers family, which was was very interesting,
But just I want to ask you about the league's
other generational superstar in Steph Curry. And one of my
biggest I guess grievances is watching Steph be super nova

(25:31):
and this Warriors team just not being able to ascend
with him.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
Right.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
It feels like we're, you know, Steph games are just
wasted almost So what where do the Warriors go this season? Well?

Speaker 7 (25:43):
I think that basically it's what do they do with
Jonathan Kamingo. They have literally not made any offseason move
this summer because that was the main domino to fall.
Can they retain Jonathan Kaminga had a decent enough number
that doesn't compromise their cat And it's been fascinating because
Jonathan Kaminga has not accepted the qualifying offer. He's tried

(26:06):
to find other partners, he just hasn't gotten any offer sheets.
And the Laker and the Warriors haven't found any signing
trade scenarios that they think makes sense. They're not interested
in what the Sacramento Kings have to offer. And so
I think what's fascinating with the Warriors and with Steph
Curry specifically, ever since the twenty twenty two NBA Championship run.

(26:28):
The two timeline approach hasn't happened. They've had to make
cost cutting moves that if it wasn't for second Apron,
they would retain those players like a Jordan Poole, like
Clay Thompson. They did make a move with Jimmy Butler
to make life easier for Steph Curry, to give them
a chance to compete for a title, But what it's
resulted in is that they're not bad enough to say

(26:51):
they're clearly wasting Steph's years they have to just start
over and rebuild. But they're just giving them that tease,
that sliver of hope, and then they wind up falling short.
I thought it was also telling this week when it
came to that with Steph Curry, as on one hand,
he expressed a lot of confidence in the front office
because of the moves they made last season, but he

(27:11):
made it clear we still need to make a few
more tweaks on our roster to have a chance to
contend for a championship. So if you read between the
lines there, he's comfortable enough not to ever say I
want out, this is over with, but clearly he's not
comfortable with status quo, and we saw that last year. Yes,
Jimmy Butler made life easier for Steph Curry made an

(27:33):
inciant impact in the regular season, but durability is always
a factor, and it's not just about Steph Curry and Draymond.
You have to have consistent and reliable role players, and
they just didn't have that last Susan.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
People listening are like, damn, I had no idea that
was so much NBA news And there's always so much
NBA news. Mark great stuff as always, well, talk you
down the road. We appreciate it.

Speaker 7 (27:59):
Appreciate you guys.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
There you go, Mark Medina joining us our NBA insider.
Now let's find out what is trending. And she is
Donnie her Charger cap of course today, Manci Belanya, I
am let me ask you this. Okay, we got Chargers
rams coming up at so Far a little bit later
on today. Are you nervous about Justin Herbert demanding to

(28:21):
play in a preseason game, which, by the way, he
is never ever and this is his sixth year in
the league. Yeah, played in a preseason game.

Speaker 8 (28:30):
No, I'm glad that he wants to get out there
and get the you know, gears rolling kind of like
Nigge said, I'm all for it, So I'm not worried
at all.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
It was about damn time. It was just about damn time.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
People say, how about his rookie year, that was the
year of the COVID. There, let's no preseason.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
That's Harbaugh rolling off on him, you know, like how
we saw throughout the course of last season, like the
more like progressive their hugs and like, you know, slowly.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
But here's the other thing, guys, his last game was
the worst game of his entire career, four inns in
that playoff. He he wants to get the he wants
to get on the field.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
Course, big off, shake off a little bit.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
You don't forget a game like that.

Speaker 8 (29:09):
Yeah, well no, he's gonna tell you he forgot about it.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
It's not that he really did, but he's gonna say that.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Yeah, he remembers every second game. Oh, I'm sure Harbu
has told him turn the page. Sure, page, turned the page.
But yes, when you're the guy that had that game
and you throw more interceptions in that game than you
did the entire.

Speaker 8 (29:27):
Season, Yeah, yeah, it's hard to thank you, thank you
for bringing that back into my bunch.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
You just want to get that taste out of my mouth.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
It's a new thank you, thank you, see, I appreciate it. Anyway.
Moving on, NFL.

Speaker 8 (29:38):
Preseason action continues forty nine Ers and Raiders right now.
Brock Parties started things off for San Francisco five of.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
Seven sixty six yards.

Speaker 8 (29:46):
Mac Jones is now in two of three for fourteen
yards and an interception already.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
For the Raiders. Gino Smith started things off.

Speaker 8 (29:53):
He is five to seven for forty four yards, and
so they're just getting started in the second quarter. Tied
at three apiece. Games that have wrapped up. Dolphins outscored
the Lines twenty four to seventeen. Packers with a twenty
three to nineteen win over the Colts. Patriots top the
Vikings twenty to twelve, and the Texans meet.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
The Panthers twenty to three. The Browns and all their quarterbacks, well.

Speaker 8 (30:11):
They defeated the Eagles today twenty two to thirteen. Dylan
Gabriel thirteen of eighteen, one hundred and forty three yards,
one interception. Here is Dylan Gabriel after the game. This
is a video currently circulating on social media.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
Dylan Gabriel.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
You know there's entertainers in there's pendom and I totally
understand that. And my job is to compete, and that's
what I'm focused on doing. Of course, we're doing this
big game, but you know it's something that I'll get
used to and just want to be the best team
that I can and for an environment where we can
all go do our best work, that's.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
All we want to do.

Speaker 8 (30:42):
There's entertainers, wow, copeditors wow.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
So you and in the range little function there? Does
you do what you want with that information? I just
want you guys to know, Twy said reference. We'll go
to Baseball Hour.

Speaker 8 (30:56):
The Blue Jays are on top of the Rangers eight
to one, bottom of the fourth inning, Red Sox up
on the Marlins two zero, bottom of the second about
to start, and the Cubs have defeated the Pirates three
to one.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
You guys didn't ask uh Mark Medina about Luca, did you?

Speaker 8 (31:10):
Luca don't a little knee con confusion, But all the
reports are that he avoided major injury.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Even it was a scary moment.

Speaker 8 (31:19):
One of his teammates fell into him as they were
backing up to play defense.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
And I was telling Ian. It got so lucky. He
fell too.

Speaker 8 (31:27):
Luca fell as well when the teammate fell into his
knee that if he would have tried to stand up.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
And not fall, it would have been way worse.

Speaker 8 (31:35):
But he fell and he kind of hobbled off to
the side and then didn't go back in the game.
But appairly he's staying with the team, Slovenia's national team,
so they don't think it's anything serious.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
There's nothing I love more than the flurry of skinny
Luca right imagery.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
We'll see if that body's going to hold up for
the entire season. If you are used to sort of
playing with carrying a physical self u road the course
of your career, and all of a sudden you're you're figuring.

Speaker 8 (32:02):
It out, It's like you're Bambi Yep, yep, bamby, bamby right.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
Now, Monzi, great stuff, Thanks so much for chiming with you.
A little bit later on, once again, we're coming to
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(32:27):
select Fox Sports Radio is one of your presets in
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the top of your screen. Are you a Luka Doncic fan? Nikki?

Speaker 2 (32:37):
I was born and raised a Laker fan, worshiping at
the altar of Kobe, and I genuinely say this, watching
Luca in a purple and gold uniform, I am feeling
things as a Laker fan that I almost haven't felt
since the twenty ten Really Championship. I mean, Lebron is

(33:00):
stational and the run him and Ad have had together amazing,
and watching Lebron do what he does at his age
has just been remarkable. But I do think that he's
you know, he came here in the sunset of his
career right or here as in Los Angeles. So knowing

(33:20):
that we landed Luca, we the Lakers landed Luca with.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
The biggest sists from the NBA.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
Oh you're an NBA rigged guy.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Well, first of all, it benefits the league when the
Lakers are strong, when the Celtics are strong, when the
Knicks are strong. You need those teams to be relevant.
Doesn't mean you buy him a championship, but they have
to be relevant. Now, this predates you and me. I mean,
this goes all the way back to the Wilt Chamberlain

(33:53):
trade by the Philadelphia seventy six ers to Lakers back
in nineteen sixty eight. Yes, I'm old enough to remember that.
And so you know, Kareem was basically stolen from the
Milwaukee Bucks shack, you know, that little glimmer of window
as a free agent where the Lakers could sign him.
So yeah, I mean that being said, though, the prodom

(34:15):
line for Lebron He's had seven years as a Laker.
In five of those years they either missed the playoffs
or eliminading in the first round. That's not exactly glowing.
He got a Bubble championship, and he made a miracle
run to the Western Conference finals a couple of years
ago where he got swept. And so yes, I agree
with you. The Luca dynamic is completely different. He's a

(34:38):
young player. His getting into physical shape shows his commitment
to the organization. This was the biggest story so far
this offseason, getting that contract extension for Luca. You know,
at this point, Like if I'm Luca, like I said
when he signed that extension, I sit down with Lebron
out of respect and I say, all right, Lebron, you

(35:01):
know you have one year here. This is what I
need from you. Lebron has never answered to anybody in
his entire career since he was a freshman in high school.
So he is going to have to answer to Luca
because Luca knows I know what I need from you.
Can you give me that? And that's going to be

(35:24):
the overwhelming question for this Lakers team. With Luca firmly
in control now of the direction of this organization, can
Lebron play Luca's game? You will see?

Speaker 2 (35:43):
I mean, he's arguably one of the greatest minds to
ever ever you know, set foot on the court. And
if there is anyone who knows how to adapt their
game to what needs to be done, it is Lebron.
As we have yet to see, I mean we have
seen it. Will his ego in this you know, if

(36:07):
it's the last year he's in the Lakers uniform, will
it feed their success together or will it hinder?

Speaker 1 (36:14):
Yeah, And we'll find out how that all blur plays out.
But that that's really gonna be the dynamic there. All right.
Coming up on the other side, Nicky has a superstar
in mind. Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
We're gonna talk about this superstar. Okay. I'm gonna show
my ingorants and people are like again.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
It's been a long time coming.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
Here we go. This is Fox Sports Saturday. You're listening
to Fox Sports Radio Radio Steve Harbin and Nikki Ka
Fox Sports Saturday. We're live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.
Everyone's excited about that. We are excited about that. All right.

(36:58):
I'm gonna preface this by saying that I have certainly
nothing against Taylor Swift.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
I recognize her, all right, all right, we're gonna need you.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
To I could barely identify maybe a couple songs, but
I would say the same as Beyonce. I mean, here's
the thing about it. I honestly can't identify am I.
I don't know. What I will say is at some
point I don't know music wise, I think this is
pretty consistent. At some point in your life you just

(37:31):
say my catalog of music is full. I've sort of
cut it off there. I have a pretty good catalog
for many decades of it, but at some point I
stopped adding to my catalog and Taylor Swift unfortunately hasn't
really made the cut. But obviously she's the biggest star

(37:51):
in the world and I get all that kind of stuff.
So are we still talking about Taylor Swift in terms
of her connection right now with Travis Kelsky in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
I mean they did something unprecedented in terms of launch
or being on that podcast, the live viewership, the streams.
I know it was one point two million at one
point watching Monsey Did you tune in Lifetime? I was
part of the one point three million viewers too, Yes,
I was here. We broke YouTube. Yep, absolutely, I was

(38:20):
part of it.

Speaker 8 (38:21):
I was like, I don't have time, I'm watching.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
I think something that was so shocking about that moment
was a lot of Taylor Swift fans who have established
this connection through her music. You know, they went to
the concert concerts throughout their life. That was like the
most we have heard her talk in a very normal,

(38:44):
candid Waymally said this yesterday. Yeah, yes, it was two hours.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
I did see the video her and Travis, and she
was talking about, you know, personnel moves with the chiefs
or like trying to basically talk about her involvement.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
In Well, what it was, what it ultimately showed was
that they are a couple and they are interested in
each other's interests. And you could hear Travis and even
his brother Jason talking and you know, understanding the process
of what it took for her to buy back her
music rights, right, and then you heard her she's not
a sports girl, not a sports girl, but her love

(39:22):
loves football, So now she's learning to love it too.
So I think what we saw as fans of both
Sport and Taylor that it's a genuine relationship. It was fun,
it was it was really pure. And I also think
we're going to get Taylor at a super Bowl halftime
in Super Bowl forty seven.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
Well, she won't get paid, as you know, she doesn't
need to get paid.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
No, she doesn't need all.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
Right, So are we ever going to see the nuptials here?
Is this actually going to happen?

Speaker 8 (39:49):
I mean, that's came out that she was married.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
I know it's going to be like that, right, right,
it's going to be like, oh done.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
I mean, she's in her mid thirties now, he's in
the mid thirties. I mean, you know, at some point
you have to make that commitment, right, I mean you
have a family now.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
You just remember there were betting props on whether he
would propose after the Superow what are the props?

Speaker 1 (40:12):
Well? No, I don't know. Do you get a sense
of motherhood? Is something in her future or is her
career been making impossible?

Speaker 2 (40:21):
I think if she wants to be a mom, she will.
But also I think we're I mean to get a
little meta here. I think a lot of women are
redefining what. You know, the traditional path has been so
long's you know, you get married, you have kids, But
now there's so many women out there who are choosing
choosing otherwise.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
All right, Well, to each his own, I'm all for that.
We got a lot of NFL to get coming up.
This is Fox Sports Saturday.

Speaker 5 (40:48):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
Yeah, rolling along here on another busy sports Saturday, Fox
Sports Saturday. We're broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.
Coming up later in this hour, going to be joined
by our NFL insider Adam Kaplan. He's been touring all
kinds of training camps. He will give us all the
latest coming up later on in this hour. So, Nikki,

(41:13):
we were just talking about certain NFL teams where and
we know this every year, Nikki, there are going to
be and this is every year four or five teams
that will grossly underperform from what we're preseason predictions, and
there will be four or five teams that are way

(41:35):
better than anyone could have thought. So every year it's like, Okay,
we know what's going to happen. The question is which
ones Which are the teams that are going to underperform,
and which are the teams that are going to overperform.
I'll give you an example. So I'm looking at the
over unders. You know, they have the over underwins, and

(41:56):
the most curious division with over underwins is the NFC North.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
I was I was just thinking about the NFC North
on my drive in, So you.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
Think about it. You had the Lions won fifteen games
last year, the Vikings won fourteen games last year, the
Packers went eleven, and then the Bears were awful. But
if you look at the preseason, they got like the
Lions at ten and a half, they have the Vikings
at nine and a half. They have the Packers at

(42:30):
nine and a half, and then they have the Bears
at eight and a half. I'm like, okay, so you
think the problem is they know a lot. Yes, that's
the thing, and you're saying, wait a.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Second, what are we missing? What are we missing in something.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Like the Vikings at nine and a half?

Speaker 2 (42:47):
Over over?

Speaker 1 (42:48):
I mean, like the whole world say, over they're gonna
win ten games? Come on, they win fourteen with Sam Darnold.
They're not gonna win ten games.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
That Lions line feels disrespectful.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
What do they know? Now? One thing about the three
teams they did make the playoffs last year, the Lions, Packers,
and the Vikings, they all got embarrassed in their only
playoff game. Like with all the hype going into the
playoffs about this NFC North and everything, once they got
to show time, they all fizzled badly. So, like you

(43:19):
just said, what does Vegas know?

Speaker 2 (43:23):
They know everything?

Speaker 1 (43:24):
Well, do you believe the Bears are going to be
better this year? I mean, forget the three teams at
the top. Are the Bears now? Have they narrowed the
gap with the hiring of Ben Johnson.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
It's so interesting to me because honestly, from Afar I
feel like the preseason is a whole lot of nothing
right when you go to practices, get updates at training camps,
like there's nothing really to talk about. Yet the Bears,
there's something percolating there in terms of what Ben Johnson's

(43:54):
trying to do establish his new culture and regime. And
yet Caleb, I'm curious he set out the preseason game.
I'm just I'm not sure what's going on there, and
is Caleb going to be able to Like you talk
about Ben Jonson closing the gap, is Caleb going to

(44:15):
be able to cross that gap with him?

Speaker 1 (44:17):
Well, again, I will look at this way with preseason games,
and I would something you said earlier. Look, they should
eliminate all preseason games. And I think eventually once they
expand to an eighteen game schedule, which I'm going to
guess is going to be spread over twenty weeks where
you get two buys to they'll expand rosters a little
bit to get him through an eighteen game and.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
Then get super bowld to that holiday weekend.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
Something something along those lives early, but you know they'll
drag it out because you make more weekends available to
the network. Why settle for eighteen weeks, twenty weeks a game. Yeah,
so the more money, more money, more money. But every
coach would tell you controlled scrimmages are way more beneficial
for these teams because they can work with another team
saying these we need to work on AB and C

(45:01):
and they say, yeah, we need to do one, two three,
and we'll work together to work on areas of need
as opposed to playing a preseason game. But that being said,
who should play in a preseason game? Well, I mean
rookies obviously to sort of get their feet wet, get
into an NFL uniform, sort of get used to things.
And then teams like the Bears where you have a

(45:22):
coach coming in with a new system and you have
Caleb Williams as your quarterback, Yeah, you need to get reps.
Why does Mahomes play every year in the preseason because
he likes to get some reps. Yet I know the
Chiefs still hold their breath like, ah yeah, but he
demands to be out there every single preseason to get
some reps. So, like you say, with Caleb Williams right now,

(45:43):
why is he not getting every possible chance to get
used to whatever Ben Johnson is introduced to that Bears offense.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
And the reports coming out of Bears camp about Caleb
Williams have not been great. So I'm just really I'm
intrigued because I do think, you know, Ben Johnson is
capable of turning things around in Chicago. I think the
fan base is really excited that they landed him, right,
but it is QB one going to be able to

(46:12):
keep up?

Speaker 1 (46:13):
Well? I mean, and again, how good is Caleb Williams.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
The Bruin. The Bruins and us are kind of I
see our little our little little horns growing.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
Look, the guy won a Heisman Trophy, right, and the
next season his numbers were certainly maybe not quite to
that level, but they weren't bad. They had no defense,
I mean, I mean, when you're losing games.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
There's a lot going on around him. That wasn't necessarily
his you know.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
Fault, right, but he was under the tutelage of one
Lincoln Riley, And so, uh, I think that's Lincoln Riley
just called me. He's got are you going to talk
about me again? I've already said to you, Lincoln Riley,
you are the most overrated coach in college football. I
don't have to repeat myself over and over again. I've
said that publicly a million times. Overrated, overrated, overrated, Lincoln Riley.

(47:06):
Thank you there is I just got to He wanted
to call me, and I'm like, no, I'm not going
to talk about it before I be that clear. Okay,
I don't have to repeat myself over and over again.
Did I say Lincoln Rilly's the most overrated coaching college football.
I'll say it again.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
I'm pleading the fifth on this one.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
Are you a Lincoln Riley? I'm not. I won't take
you down the path if you don't want to go.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
I've known Lincoln since he was an offensive coordinator at Oklahoma,
and so I've it's been fun to watch him rise
through the ranks of the college football world. And it
was really cool to see what he and Baker Mayfield
were able to accomplish together in Norman. And you know
he's here at USC and I'm curious how much longer

(47:51):
of a leash he's going to have with this program
if they don't win and do so convincingly this season.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
Well they certainly he thought replacing Clay Helton with Lincoln
Riley was going to be a major step up and
that first season. Will looked like it was going to
be that until the Packtorld Championship game getting blown out
by Utah and then one of the most outrageous Bowl
game collapses of all time. And since then they're essentially

(48:20):
a five hundred team.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
I once again re establishing that Steve and I are
UCLA brewin loon. I was cheering so hard for Utah
in that championhip.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
You love every second of Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
And just watching the USC fans around me Wilton crumble.
There's no greater feeling than watching your rival fall.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
Well, here's the thing about Caleb Williams. He obviously has
talent that is not to be questioned. The big question
with him and Ben Johnson, and when we think about
the greatest coaches in NFL history, always seem to be
in lockstep with the greatest quarterbacks in NFL history, meaning
the on the same page. And you say, well, you know,

(49:06):
it's not as easy. Not everyone has chemistry. And so
unless Caleb Williams one hundred percent buys in with whatever
Ben Johnson is selling, it's not going to work in Chicago.
And that's that's the bottom line there. I mean, are
they in sync. Does Caleb Williams have the ability to

(49:28):
execute what it is that Ben Johnson has in mind
for that Bears offense, Well.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
We wouldn't know because he didn't play in the preseason.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
Thank you very much. Why is he not playing? I
don't know, If I may weigh in.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
For a second, got USC behind the glass.

Speaker 9 (49:46):
It's not from the USC, It's from the Lions side
of things, But a couple things are going on. First off,
I think they are start playing starters here this weekend.
But I think a the not playing starters kind of
came from the Dan Campbell side of things in that
the Lions gave a lot of rest their starters, so
I thought he could just kind of, you know, he
thought he could bring this in and just you know,

(50:06):
do the same thing. But also I do wonder when
it comes to how much we give to Ben Johnson
just whispering on down to Caleb Williams. I think the
talents there with Caleb Williams, but a Ben Johnson implementing
his system does take time. And b I don't think
I have ever seen anyone give any credit to what
I know the relationship was between Jared Goff and Ben

(50:28):
Johnson and a lot of that was Jared Goff pushing
back sometimes on Ben Johnson and saying no, we should
do things like this and molding that system into what
it became in Detroit. And I don't see that same
kind of back and forth really there between Ben Johnson
and Caleb was You're talking about a guy who is
basically a sophomore quarterback who just in his rookie year

(50:52):
saw you know, the entire coaching staff get hollowed out
and fired, versus Jared Goff, who has been around the
league for a while, came up with Sean mcg even
pushed back with Sean McVay a few times. But like
sometimes iron sharpens iron, and I just don't see that
same relationship in Chicago there.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
Well, and here's the thing. So you look at Caleb
Williams and you remember the comparisons nicking where people are
you know, oh, there's a lot of Patrick Mahomes. I'm like, oh,
stop that. But the bottom line is, if you're a
coach who's the de facto coordinator like Ben Johnson, and
you like your quarterback like Jared Goff is, who's very

(51:31):
much a system quarterback. In other words, he's not going
to do a lot addlebing on the field unless he's
forced into a situation. Whereas Caleb Williams, you know, he's
more of a freelance guy. Like I can create things.
I can do things with di athleticism. It can create
things out there. And you're the coach saying I'm sure
you can in an emergency situation, but frankly, I'd rather

(51:55):
you stick to the script. If we established what it
is the script is calling for, and we get that down,
then we can add to that. And that's going to
be the question. Jared Goff Is can very much follow
a script and do it effectively. Can Caleb Williams follow
a script?

Speaker 2 (52:14):
I know? And I do like that observation of Jared
goff in his maturity in the league and as a
quarterback and what he was able to establish and build
in Detroit. I don't think we maybe shine that light
on him enough when you talk about what he brings
even as a system quarterback. And it's interesting though, because yes,

(52:36):
even though Caleb's sophomore season, he's got to step up.
He's got to be the leader, and he's got to
If you want to buy in, now's the time to
do it.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
And that's the thing. When we talk about leaders, and
I say this all the time, By definition, a leader
is someone who inspires others to follow. You can't just
say he's the leader. If he doesn't inspire others to follow,
he can't be a leader. Can Caleb Williams be the
leader of this Bears team? All right? Coming up on
the other side, we got a couple of other teams

(53:09):
who want to get to including a team that some
people think could be the surprise dominant team in the AFC.
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(53:32):
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(53:52):
you're just tuning in. Nicky and I share a UCLA pedigree,
but very much different. I'll share a story with you.
So basically, when I got into UCLA coming out of
high school, uh, and I only applied to one school.
Pretty much if you had if you're breathing, you could

(54:13):
get in. Okay. So let's flash forward years later, and
I used to mc a scholarship event for UCLA.

Speaker 7 (54:23):
UH.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
And you know, we hand out scholarships too, And so
this one year, we had four girls that received the
scholarship money. I'm rattling off their high school resumes, you know,
and it's like, you know, four point five GPA, fifteen
forty on their SAT student body president, you know, captain
of some athletic team. So I said at the end,

(54:45):
after doing all this, I said, first of all, I
want to congratulate all of our scholarship winners. I'd also
like to apologize because you see, when I graduated from UCLA,
they said, never again, we need to raise the balls.
Never again are we going to have someone like this
on our books. So the fact that you went to

(55:06):
use CLA, that's that's pretty unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
It was. It's tough to get into these institutions now crazy. Also,
I told myself I would never be the person to
refer to my college as an institution. So I'd like
to retract that statement someone. I mean, I know Stanford
got to give someone props for being in grad school
at Stanford. They were talking to me and they're going, yeah,

(55:33):
you know, at my institution. And I clocked in that
conversation that I will never be the person to refer
to my college, my alma mater, as an institution.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
So you were actually recruited how high?

Speaker 2 (55:48):
I was not good enough to play sports at UCLA.
They have insane Division I programs across Olympics sports. You know,
basketball speaks for itself. I did yet recruited walking my
freshman year to be a coxin on the rowing team. However,
UCLA Rowing women's rowing. Uh the practice time is five

(56:11):
am in the Marina Harbor. So that did not really
chill in the air. Yes, yes, that did not really
prove to be conducive for my social life, you know.
And and but I did. I did desperately want to
be in on a team. So that ultimately led to

(56:32):
me being a recruiting assistant for the football team. So
it was a lot of fun. All my sorority sisters,
there's like eight of us. We were just it was
the best job you could ask for undergrad.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
That sounds like a lot of fun, no question about that. Well,
maybe UCLA could use you, now, Nikki, to do that
as well, because we've got.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
To get that Foster Deshaun Foster.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
Foster fans, We're going to wish them all the best
for the upcoming football season. Let's get back to the NFL.
There is a team right now that again a lot
of people a year ago. Now, Nikki, if anyone that's
been following me for many, many years, they begged me
to make locks, whether they're season long locks or weekly locks,

(57:12):
because they know it's money in the bank. By just
going the other way, they fade you. My prognostication skills
are so notoriously bad. And my excuse always is you might.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
Say they're excellent if if you're giving people the easy answer.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
I really am. By going one way, I'm literally handing
you money the other way. Steve, Oh, we've we've we've
tested this over entire seasons. Like just if you would
bet against every pick that I lock, like this is
my game of the week and you just double down
like you'd be a millionaire by the end of the season.
Very simply with a very small investment, just double it

(57:51):
down all the way through. So now you now you
got that. But that being said, last year I did
have a rare correct addiction. So before the season began,
everyone here at Fox Sports Radio has to make you
know our Super Bowl picks, all the usual stuff, but
you have to make one out of the box pick.
And my out of the box pick was that their

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Denver Broncos, led by their rookie quarterback Bo Knicks, would
make the playoffs. And the Denver Broncos made the playoffs.
And the reason I was pretty confident with that one
is that you're saying the Broncos they hadn't even been
in the playoffs. They had not even been in the
playoffs since winning that last Super Bowl with Peyton Manning's
noodle alarm falling off and that dominant defense they had

(58:35):
with Von Miller that year. But I was doing a
little look into their grading of their offensive and defensive lines,
and I'm like, good, how about this stat Last year
there were only two teams in the league who grated
out on both sides of the line top three in
the NFL. One was the Super Bowl champion Eagles, the

(58:57):
other the Denver Broncos. So you look at the Broncos.
They win ten games a year ago with a rookie quarterback.
You gotta believe another year with Sean Payton and Bo Nicks,
they're going to go next level. There are a lot
of people on the inside. Forget the Chiefs, forget the Bills,
forget the Ravens, forget the Bengals, look out Denver Broncos.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
And I was listening to Diana Russini, a very you know,
savvy NFL insider, and she was waxing poetic about how
much Sean Payton loves his QB. He is enamored. And
I think they are building. They have built something special
in Denver, and I would imagine that they are going

(59:43):
to be a well, I don't think they're so sneaky
anymore because a lot of people are talking about the
Denver Broncos already hold on.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
I mean, now they're on the radar, and then we'll
see how they respond to that. But I just go
back to Sean Payne's relationship with Drew Brees, where the
Chargers were convinced after are finga shoulder injury, and of
course they'd already used a top four pick on Philip
Rivers that they can move on from Drew Brees and
just hand the ball to Rivers and they'll win super Bowls,

(01:00:10):
which did not happen. Drew Brees would win a Super
Bowl in New Orleans. But this gets back to what
we were talking about with kayleb Williams and Ben Johnson.
Can you get a quarterback and a coach on the
same page. Well, obviously right now Sean Payton and Bo
Nix are on the same page.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
Absolutely. I'm excited to see kind of how each quarterback
in the AFC specifically is kind of making a I
think there's a lot of legacy on the line for
the names in the AFC, right, So it's going to
be a fun season, especially if you get a team
like the Broncos emerging.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
All right, well save that coming up, because we're going
to be joined on the other side by Adam Kaplan,
our NFL insider. But first let's find out who is
a trending right now, That of course is.

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
Guys.

Speaker 8 (01:01:03):
I'm enjoying this show, these these two Bruins together, you know,
bruing it up.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
I love it. I'm enjoying it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
Yeah, she earned her way in the UCLA.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Yes, we know way, We're fully aware of that. I'm
fully aware of that.

Speaker 8 (01:01:16):
We've got one NFL preseason game going on right now,
and it's Top Time between the forty nine Ers and
the Raiders in Las Vegas, Las Vegas up thirteen to ten.
Ashton genty seven carries, thirty three yards and a touchdown.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
Here.

Speaker 8 (01:01:30):
Other games that have wrapped up, like the Dolphins defeating
the Lions twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
Four to seventeen.

Speaker 8 (01:01:33):
Packers on top of the gold twenty three nineteen, Patriots
over the Vikings twenty to twelve. Texans defeated the Panthers
the Panthers twenty to three, and the Browns took down
the Eagles twenty two to thirteen. Dylan Gabriel thirteen of eighteen,
one hundred and forty three yards and one interception. I
played you guys the clip earlier today of him saying
that there are entertainers and competitors. He kind of said

(01:01:55):
that that what he met was that the entertainers were
the media and that the petitors are all of his teammates.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
That's a week skin.

Speaker 8 (01:02:02):
I just war some clearly one hundred percent agree with
you on that. Just letting you know he did try
and clarify what he meant. Other NFL news, the league
determined that Cowboys wide receiver CD Lamb does not need
to be fine after he was plowed down by that
ref on the sideline, so they're not going to find
him for looking.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
Like that on TV.

Speaker 8 (01:02:23):
The Commanders have activated Terry McLaurin off the physically unable
to perform list. Saints quarterback Tyler Shook will start Sunday's
preseason game against the Jaguars. NBA news, Luka Doncic was
diagnosed with the right knee contusion while playing for Slovenia's
national team, but it's not believed to be serious. When
it comes to college football, the Big Ten has considered
an idea of a massive expansion of the college football

(01:02:44):
playoff that would grow the postseason to twenty four or
twenty eight teams.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
ESPN has the story.

Speaker 8 (01:02:50):
They said the idea is very early in the stages
of it, but the proposal eliminates conference title games and
offers a large number of auto bids for all four
pawn our leagues. For example, in a twenty eighteen model,
the Big Ten and SEC would each get seven auto bids,
while the ACC and Big twelve would each receive five.
There would be two auto bids for the non Power

(01:03:11):
four conferences and two at large teams.

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
Okay, here here's my whole thing. No buyes. We just
saw what happen when he had buyes the first year
of the playoffs, all four by teams lost. Yeah, so
either it's going to be sixteen or thirty two exactly.
No twenty four, no twenty eight, No, bye.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
Bye bye bye byes.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
We dogged work on the collegiate level. All right, that's
a great story.

Speaker 8 (01:03:35):
Yes, so we'll see, we will see what happens.

Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
You want some baseballores?

Speaker 1 (01:03:40):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (01:03:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
Shall we have some love to what Clayton Kershaw all day,
all day, every day? Go go, I I just read this.
You know he has made the second most starts of
anybody currently on LA's staff, and he has the second
best era in the rotation of anyone who's made at
least five stars.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
Well, I mean, here's the thing who would have for
the season. By the middle of August, their most consistent
starter was going to be Clayton Kershe who.

Speaker 8 (01:04:07):
Can't even get to ninety miles per hour.

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
But he's effective.

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
You know what, He's a picture this.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
They were dreaming this season like his farewell tour. I
think it is.

Speaker 3 (01:04:16):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
He's not one to announce it. I was in, I
was in. I covered the World Series with the Dodgers,
and in that locker room after he's got his full
dad bought out and he's just no kids. Yeah, I'm
like Clayton, what does this moment mean to you? Who
goes I did nothing. I did nothing, But he did everything.
He did everything, built that foundation for this you know book.

Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
He is arguably one of the top fifteen to twenty
pictures in the history of Right, I'm with you. I
mean the numbers. Don't leave Erao. Look all right, Monsu,
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(01:05:00):
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He is our NFL insider, Adam Kaplan. Adam always appreciate

(01:05:22):
the time. I know you had a busy week. Give
us the highlight of your week. Give us something you
found out this week that you did not expect. When
we'll welcome last week.

Speaker 6 (01:05:32):
All right, So let me explain this. So I've seen
Miles Garrett before, this is not new, but when he
abuses a first team offensive line maybe the best of
the National Football League that I take note of that
Miles Gartt was, I mean superman this week.

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
Now you have to.

Speaker 6 (01:05:46):
Understand talking the Browns about him. You know, we came
in there many years ago as a rookie. He was
I would call him finn, but he wasn't really physically developed.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
Over the last three years.

Speaker 6 (01:05:56):
I don't know that there's a better condition athlete at
the edge rusher position. And he made Lane Johnson with
Jordan Mailatta. You know, he moved from side to side.
Jordan my lotest left tackle for the Eagles. Lane Johnson
is the right tackle. It's probably gonna be a Hall
of Famer someday. And it was kind of toying with
him it's It reminded me Steve of this back in

(01:06:16):
twenty fifteen ish that area on my training camp tour.
I saw Tom Brady come into Philly and go twenty
eight for twenty eight ball never hit the ground and
every pass he made the receiver go get or the
past target. There's sometimes when you go to training camp.
I remember seeing I remember seeing I'm going to say,

(01:06:37):
probably oh boy, very early in my career, some great
quarterback play. You know, going from camp to camp, and
you know you make note of it. Saw Matthew Stafford
very early in his career. But when you see something special,
you got to make note of it. And what Miles
Garrett did this week was really incredible over two days.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
Adam, A pleasure to be chatting with you. I'm curious
when you look at the landscape of the AFC right
now and the bevy of talented quarterbacks in that conference,
who's got the most to gain or lose this season
in terms of legacy, in.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
Terms of what I'm not sure what you mean by that.

Speaker 6 (01:07:23):
Look what when you see legacy?

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
I think I think when you when you look at
the landscape of this season and how it plays out,
and what quarterback needs needs to accomplish something special. Who
are you looking at, you.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
Know, I would say C J.

Speaker 6 (01:07:36):
Stroud After he was incredible one of the better rookie
seasons we've seen him from a quarterback. Now last season
what I was told was, yes, well, he didn't play
anywhere nearly as good as year one. Their offensive line
had problems. They traded their left tackle, Laramie ton Sool.
He's now with the Commanders. He's got to bounce back.
On your question, that would be the guy that would
come to mind immediately. He's got to bounce back. He's

(01:07:58):
got to be better, but they have to protect him better.
I don't I don't think to be honest with you,
as I talk to people in the league who evaluate
their offensive line. With the Texans, they have a left
tackle problem with what they're trying to go with their
whether it's Cam Robinson or somebody else. Cam Robinson the
Jaguars got rid of he went to Minnesota and they
got probably gonna with a rookie at right tackle. They're

(01:08:19):
not really good on the offensive line. So I would
say on your question, that would be my biggest concern
right now at the quarterback position. And then we're talking
about the teams that should make the playoffs. That would
be the one, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
Try to explain this one to me. So, John Harbaugh,
coach of the Ravens, would Joe Flacco as his quarterback
had a playoff record of ten and five with Lamar
Jackson as his quarterback? He's three and five?

Speaker 5 (01:08:45):
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:08:46):
So Joe Flacco, who is never named even to a
Pro Bowl in his career versus a two time league
MVP of many thinks should have been a three time
MVP last year. Why he's such a different dynamic in
the postseason, same coach, two different quarterbacks.

Speaker 6 (01:09:06):
Yeah, I've called Lamar Jackson one of the best rega
set quarterbacks in NFL history. Now let's go back to
Joe flaco twenty twelve Super Bowl run. I've known Joe
since seven. Actually talked to him this week, saw him
in the field for a little bit. He was now
forty years old. Joe was a guy with maybe the
best one of the best arms in NFL history of
decent athleticism. But this was an era and they're still

(01:09:28):
doing it. Where they're running football, they're built with defense,
limited attempts and rarely ask him to win games, and
that's kind of happened. And then I just remember getting
word that they were going to move on from Flaco.
They were going to Now we didn't know what they
were going to do with We didn't know they're going
to draft Lamar Jackson, but we knew that they were
looking to move on from the draft of Lamar. You
kind of saw Joe Steve bounce around. You saw what

(01:09:51):
happened with Denver not very good. Now two years ago,
he was phenomenal, put the team on his back, off
the couch. He was just working out on his own
and he with his kids really and he put the
team in the playoffs. But we turn our intention to
Lamar now, Steve. Look, let's let's face it, this competition
is way better than the playoffs. That's a big part
of it when you really look at it. And the

(01:10:12):
thing that with Lamar is and it's not so much
already how many come from behind wins as he had,
it's one he's had to do it in the playoffs
from behind when they're not doing well. He's been unable
to bring the team back. That's sort of the issue.
If you really dig in the weeds here with him,
but there's no quarterback and I like watching more. In fact,
I'll be with the Ravens, I think on Wednesday. Unfortunately

(01:10:33):
they're joining practice canceled on Thursday, so I'll probably go
see them Wednesday. He is pretty special, and I have
to tell you, I was surprised. I was talking with
one of their coaches last year about this, and I said, Hey,
how's the Lamar Derek? How many situation working? He goes,
you were here at practice. They go, yeah, but I
can't tell because you can't tacklem. He goes, trust me.
And they got off to a little bit of a

(01:10:54):
slow start, but once that thing got rolling, they were
absolutely incredible. But the problem Steve with Baltimore last season
was their defense was just nowhere near as good.

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
As it used to be.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
Adam, we were talking earlier in the show about the
relationship of Ben Johnson and Jared Goff in Detroit and
now Johnson in Chicago obviously trying to install new culture.
You know, his offense there from what you've heard, from
what you're informed of, how is his relationship with Caleb

(01:11:27):
Williams and what's going on? What's going on in Chicago,
because it hasn't seemed, you know, Sunshine and Daisies from Afar,
at least in terms of the stuff percolating in preseason.

Speaker 6 (01:11:39):
Yeah, So what I understand is they've taken to Bench
Once's coach, and he coaches hard, like he's on them constantly.
He's I would call Matt Patricia's Matt Patricia was a
big yeller in the Lions tune them out, and that's
one of the reasons why I fail there. But that's
what Song of the Liones told me, is that it's
a he joke. Between four and six months, you're gonna
know if it's going to work or not. Really not

(01:11:59):
a year or two is no, they're they're other their
other take to his coaching, or they're gonna want them
out of there because they won't be able to handle them.
So everything I've been told privately is they've taken to
the coaching. They've responded well. Now it's been hard on
Caleb Williams. They're coaching them up hard. He's had some
good days and some days, so you'd like to forget.
It's going to take time. But the good, really good
thing around them is they've got a run game. They

(01:12:20):
three new starters on their offensive line in the interior,
so they had to do that and they're really loaded
with their past target group that that It's to the
point now where there are no excuses for Caleb Williams
because last year you could you could could question the coaching,
which is just being honestly. The coaching was not good
enough for when I'm old, and that's one of the
reasons why he moved on for Matti ebra Flussi. He
just didn't bring good enough coaches in there. And now

(01:12:42):
he's getting hard coaching. Caleb Williams needs disciplined guys. That
hard coaching is you you get respect from your player,
you're autumn constantly, and that's exactly what I'm told has
been happening with Caleb Williams.

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
All Right. So I know a lot of people get
irked when you and I talk about, you know, the
good old days. At times I love it. The storytelling great, well,
the storytelling is great, but I mean preseason football. We've
talked about this at nauseum. How much has changed over
the years, And now we have the situation with the Chargers.
So Charger Rams game coming up at so far later

(01:13:13):
this afternoon, and justin Herbert approached Jim Harbaugh and asked
to play in the game. He has never taken a
snap on a preseason game. Remember his rookie year was
the COVID years, so there was no preseason, never taking
a snap in a preseason game. Now he wants to,
and because he's going to be on the field, so
will a lot of the regulars be on the field.

(01:13:36):
And we now, all of a sudden, the are seeing
a few more teams parade out their starters in the preseason.
So what appeared to be a trend away from that,
now some people are looking at and say there could
be some value here. Why is this happening? All right?

Speaker 6 (01:13:54):
So this has been interesting, Steve, since we've moved to
three gamestead of four game preseason, where it used to
be textbook. First game starters don't play. Second game, they
play a quarter, third games, address rehearsal, they play half
were into the third quarter. Fourth game they don't play.
Now it's completely changed. So what coaches have told me

(01:14:14):
on this tour is it's tricky comes down to what
we think they need. But it comes on to your point.
If you start the quarterback, you have to have the
first team offensive line in there, and remember Rashaun Slater,
their left tackles out for the season with Towarm Teler tenants.
So it's a little tricky like that's that's not often done.
When a player asks to play, you almost say listen, now,

(01:14:34):
we hear you, but we're not going to do that.
We're gonna stick with their plan. That's a little tricky
for me. But that's the thing like fans don't seem
to understand if your players starting quarterback, you put your
first team offensive lineup, there's no debate over that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
You have to have them out there. Yeah, and I
don't know how I'd be there about that where they're
not going to say no, so and then barrely Jim
rather play. So you know players talking them over the years,
they would rather. They don't like they.

Speaker 6 (01:14:58):
Want timing and rhythm. Yeah, if they're beat up physically.
I understand. Training camps are long tho though of course
they don't hit, but coaches want to know what these
guys look like, particularly the guys who need the work
right exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:15:12):
And by the way, usually players will say they say, oh,
we dried there preseason, but once they're on the field, yeah,
they want to play as always, Adam, great stuff. We'll
talk to you again next week. Thank you. That's good.
Thanks Adam Kaplan. There are NFL insider all right, what
is in store in the week ahead? Well, Nicky and
I are going to break it down for you. This
is Fox Sports Saturday, Steve Harbin, Nikki k Saturday Sports Saturday. Yeah,

(01:15:42):
live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. So let me
ask you this. Do you prefer professional football or college football?

Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
Ooh. I love the pageantry of college sports, but I
think I tend to favor football Sundays. And I think
the NFL is just so it's everywhere, it's everything, and
I don't have a team, so I love stories and

(01:16:23):
it's fun to root for individual players as well. So
I don't know. I think college the landscape of college
sports has changed so much with nil deals in the
transfer portal and having attachment and you know, I just
I think I'm I think I'm pro football. How about you?

Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
I think again, having worked for the Raiders and working
in professional football and understanding the business side of football,
and it's interesting because I've known players over the years,
and I did a series for a publication where I
was at to do interviews with former UCLA players, and

(01:17:03):
two of the great players back in the seventies both
had great NFL careers were Kenny Easiley and Jerry Robinson,
and I knew both of them, and I remember it
was funny. I did separate interviews with these two guys,
and it was Jerry Robinson first, and we were talking
about UCLA games and he stopped, he goes, you know,

(01:17:23):
it's really interesting. I can remember like every college game.
But if you were to ask me about my NFL career, yeah,
I remember the Super Bowl or it just like a blur,
but I can remember, even though it's longer ago, and
so maybe I don't know. A few months later, I'm
talking to Kenny Easily. We're having a similar conversation. He stops,
he goes, you know, really wears Steve, I can remember

(01:17:43):
almost every one of my and I'm like, is there
an echo in the room. And I had the good
fortune of being part of the UCLA broadcast team for
two years. I did the sidelines for radio one year,
and then I was up in the booth with Chris
Roberts and we went to Knoxville. Peyton Manning's junior year
nineteen ninety six. They had just expanded to neland stadium

(01:18:04):
to a one hundred thousand plus and then two weeks later,
I'm at the Big House. By the way, he saw.
Tom Brady's first play as a college player is a
blowout win for Michigan. He threw a pick six. His
first pass the Michigan was a pick six to UCLA.
But when you're in that atmosphere, you would never get
that in the NFL, right ever. I mean you're not
going to get one hundred thousand people to show up

(01:18:26):
for you know, we don't always see it here in
southern California, but when you get down in the South
or in the Big Ten, I mean this is commonplace.
You know, you Penn State, you know, one hundred thousand plus.
So you mentioned pageantry, the traditions, yea, you know, the
rivalries in college. So if that's what I'm fearing, don't
get away from those rivalries. I mean, Lincoln Riley talking

(01:18:49):
about eliminating Notre Dame from what are you talking about?
Have you just completely did I mention he's the most
overrated coach in college football one more time. Yeah, he's
the most overrated coach. But when he brought up like
eliminating the Notre Dame game from USC schedule.

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
I'm like, big miss, stop big miss.

Speaker 5 (01:19:11):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
I was chatting with Matt Liner and he's like, I'm
I like UCLA. I like UCLI he goes Notre Dame.
I cannot stand and I will not stand. And when
you have that sort of feud, you got to do
everything you can to keep that alive. Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:19:27):
Right, I was raised the Trojan my dad, believe me. Yeah.
Winning against UCLA usually in those days, meant your tickets
to the Rose Bowl, Right, That's what was on the line.
But Notre Dame.

Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
Oh no. And as as Bruins, we love Notre Dame.

Speaker 1 (01:19:42):
But you kind of love the rivalries I mean you,
I mean the rivalries in the NFL, but not like that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
You're right, You're right. I I just and I think
maybe when we talk about college football. As as as
UCLA fans know, we haven't been blessed with yes, with
the most dominant of recent history.

Speaker 1 (01:20:02):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
No, And getting out to the rest of the mission,
but I do love every time I'm there. It is magical.

Speaker 1 (01:20:07):
Yeah, I mean, and so so anyway, all right, so
let's see we got zero coming up. Yes, it is
a zero, isn't it. But you know, I love this
because we now have that bye week, which is so
confusing with the NFL. Right, you have Week three of
the preseason, then you have a bye week. Okay, but
that is week one of the college football season where

(01:20:28):
the college football gets a takeover. You have games on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (01:20:32):
If you have, it's going to be fantastic.

Speaker 1 (01:20:34):
It's going to be great stuff. Well, Nikki, great stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:20:36):
Today's a blast.

Speaker 1 (01:20:39):
Quickly, we're just dest couple of ruins hanging out and
doing our thing. I'm anxious to see how it's going
to work out with Justin Herbert in a couple hours
taking the field against the Rams in a preseason game.
Don't going anywhere, keep it right here. Much more coming up.
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