August 23, 2025 • 40 mins
LaVar, TJ, and Plax talk about the Colts decision to bench QB Anthony Richardson and turn to QB Daniel Jones, Ben Johnson talks about the slow start to the Bears offense in their final preseason game, Matthew Stafford & his bad back return to practice, and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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the locker room, Like I don't play with some dude
that you disrespect them anyway, it didn't matter who it
was they was putting hands on you.
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And Blaxico Burrows.
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They are the same person, the same exact quarterback.
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Speaker 5 (00:56):
All right, welcome in the hour two of the show.
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Speaker 2 (01:01):
St J.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
Hoodemanzata, It's Plexico Burst. You may know them as.
Speaker 6 (01:05):
Pantemn and Stretch Armstrong and I'm LeVar Arrington.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
That's right.
Speaker 6 (01:12):
I tried to give y'all radio voice entry because I
messed up. I gaffed up highlights coming in from the
last break.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
But that's all right.
Speaker 6 (01:17):
It's on the water under the bridge. And you know what,
maybe Anthony Richardson's careers I mean for that to be
the segway, but I mean, but let's talk about it.
The Colts have benched your boy, Anthony Richardson, y'all and listen,
they did it in favor of your boy, Plexico Bird.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Don't be lying the people on the radio.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Oh though, we come to the.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Of the road, leg go is this the Hey? What
pick was Anthony richards and TJ Man? Fourth? I believe
I believe it was the fourth pick.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Daniel Jones is the starting quarterback of an Indianapolis coach.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
That's wild, ain't it? It is? Uh, it's something special.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Got number five twenty three years old.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
M h still got a chance. But man, when you
it's the second time, it's fourth.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
Yeah, this is the second time.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Is a fourth? See, this is what happens. Though when
you have to number five, he wasn't here. Yeah he
was a fourth pick. This is this is what happens.
When he made that comment and people glossed over it
like it was nothing, that he basically took himself out
the game because he was tired. To me, that was
the beginning of the end. You can never do that.
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I don't care what position you are, especially as the quarterback.
Are you got doing the next play? You probably don't
turn around handed off. Now You're good, You're not tired,
no more.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
Take a knee.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
You just you can't.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
You you can feel that way, you can think that way.
When they ask you why you come out the game.
You can never say, oh, I was tired. You can
never say that to me.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
You can't. That's showing a sign of weakness.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
And he was a young kid, or a young kid,
a young man, and he made that mistake in the masses.
Will never let him get over that. And the team
looked at him different, the coaching staff, the front office,
they looked at him different. And so once he made
that comment, it's unfortunate, man, But he's gonna be fighting
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up Hill's what you said. Like, Daniel Jones is a
starting quarterback. And Daniel Jones couldn't do much of anything
when he was with the New York Johns.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
And so.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
This is gonna be very interesting because I think the
world of d was an offensive coach and Shane Steike
and obviously did wonders in Philly. So if they can
get something out of Daniel Jones. Shane Steike might as
well go ahead and get this contract extension because he
making bread with no flour.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
You've seen Daniel Jones in New York plaques. What give
me the four one one man? How does this happen?
Speaker 4 (04:22):
I just don't believe that Daniel Jones is a starting quarterback.
I just don't. Obviously, when they signed him to the
Indianapolis coach after you draft of Anthony and Richardson with
the fourth pick, I think everybody Antennis kind of went
him like, why would you bring him into the building
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to uh, you know, compete with Anthony Richardson, who you dressed,
who you just drafted a few years ago. And this
young man is twenty three years old. But Anthony Richardson
hasn't been able to stay healthy.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
We all know that. H we haven't really.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Seen him progress as to being one of the good
quarterbacks in this league where he was drafted at.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
But if you're the.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Indianapolis coach and you're going into the Week one with
Daniel Jones as you're starting quarterback, I just don't see
how Anthony Richardson comes back from this because basically, what
you're saying you drafted this man high. Now that you're
competing during the training camp and preseason, you won't get
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to see Anthony Richardson developed as a professional quarterback. Obviously
he's been hurt, but the talent is there. Nobody's disputing
his arm, you know, his mobility to be able to
make plays in and out of the pocket. But to
insert Daniel Jones in front of him. I watched his
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interview after this decision was made, and you can visually
see that the young man was hurt. And I just
don't see how you come back from Daniel Jones being
they even start a quarterback of an organization that drafted
you there to be the franchise quarterback and now you're
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going to be the backup as the fourth pick in
the NFL draft. So I don't see him really. I
don't know what the Indianaplis Colt are going to do,
but uh, I think it's the beginning of the end
of Anthony Richardson Indianapolis.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I believe that he needs a fresh start.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
We got to find a way to keep him healthy
and so we can see him try to, you know,
make progress as being one of the young good quarterbacks
in this league.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Go ahead, DJ, listen when you really delve into this
and really look, Daniel Jones is twenty games under five
hundred as a quarterback. If you believe he's your answer.
And he had a head coach that was an offensive
guy on Brian Dable. He's twenty games five hundred as
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a starter. And it's the thing, though, when Anthony Richardson
got drafted, what did everybody say? He's a project? He
needs to be developed. So the coachs they're not blameless
in this. You knew he was a project. You knew
he didn't start a lot of games when he was
at the University of Florida. And this is a second
time you didn't bench him. You benched him last year
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or two years ago. And now Daniel Jones, who's twenty
games under five hundred as a starter, he's now your starter.
But you knew Anthony Richardson was a project when you
drafted him. What you want that project to accelerate? You
knew what it was when you drafted him.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
And so it makes you like.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Indianapolis coach, why are you guys going back and forth
with Anthony Richardson. He's a starter, he's not Why you
knew it was a project, and so to me, sometimes
these organizations and I think Chris ballad and shame. I
think they do a wonderful job. I really do. But
you can't do this with a young quarterback that everybody
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knew was a project. Everybody knew it, and so all
you're doing is hurting a young man. And I don't understand, Like,
why why draft him if you weren't gonna give him
enough rope to play and understand the game, and then
when he gets in the game, if he's not doing it. Okay,
(08:50):
I got like this third year, had he not got
hurt last year, he played his entire rookie season, you
let him start the first have very many games of
this year. Then you say, you know what, he's not
the answer. You don't even know if he's the answer
because he hasn't played enough games in the National Football
League after not playing enough games in college football.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
Also, wow, all I'll say is he's got two opportunities here,
here's what's working on his side. I do not think
Daniel Jones can carry the load for the entire season.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
Pause all right, I do not believe he can.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
So Anthony Richardson, stay ready because when he plays poorly enough,
they will come back to you. So take your mental reps.
I don't believe in and and you guys mentioned it.
Once you get into the regular season, this is not
about developing Anthony Richardson's It's about Ken Daniel Jones lead
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our team to wins.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
That's what the focus is.
Speaker 6 (09:46):
He's going to get the reps, He's going to get
the attention, and that's what it's going to be. It's
going to be up to Anthony Richardson to get into
the playbook, get into the film room, stay late, come early,
do the things that he needs to do to try
to progress himself, because I believe he's going to get
another shot at it. The second way is injury, which
you never wish a you know, ill will upon someone
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no one. You don't want to get another opportunity based
off of somebody else's demise because that could be you
that somebody else is getting an opportunity based off of
your demise in that moment, So you never want to
see it happen that way, but it is a part
of the game. People do get hurt and other guys
have to step in. Those to me are the two
ways that he can get an opportunity to get back
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in the game and have a chance. I wonder if
he will be good enough and if this team will
be good enough for him to be able to maintain
after he gets back in. If he gets back in,
I'm not sure how good this team will be. I
like the fact that they added Tyler Warren, obviously a
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Penn Stater, I like Michael Pittman. If Jonathan Taylor is healthy,
you got a nice compliment of of players that can
take the pressure off of Daniel Jones, can take it
off of Anthony Richardson if he's in there. But my
whole contingent contingency here is is that if you've had
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all these weapons except for Tyler Warren, which Tyler Warren
will to me have the potential to have significant impact
on this offense. But with that being said, let's be clear.
Let's be clear, I'm not sure how good this Indianapolis
Colts team is. No matter who their quarterback is, I'm
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just not really sure where they're.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
Going, you know.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
So it could be a I don't know, it could
be a blessing in disguise, but it could be not
so much of a blessing in disguss.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
I just don't really know how it plays out, because
this team, it's not like Anthony Richardson will get in
and be the savior of the team. If Daniel Jones
is not the answer, I'm assuming if Daniel Jones isn't
the answer, then the problem is bigger than the quarterbacks position.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
And that's my take on it. So I don't know.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
I think Anthony and Richardson finds himself in a pretty
pretty curious position, a very you know, could be considered
a compromising situation in terms of being a starting quarterback
in the National Football League. But hey, we'll wait and
see how it all plays out. You heard it here,
that's the conversation. And well we're gonna take a quick break.
And on the other side of the break, well, you
(12:32):
know what it is. We always talking about something, and
that's something, Well, ah Man unhappy with offense in the
final preseason game. You're gonna find out who the person
is and you're gonna find out the team. It's an
NFL team unhappy with your offense in the final preseason game.
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don't worry about it. Yeah, welcome back into the show.
This is up on Game. We always figure it out,
you know, that's how it works out. And well they're
trying to figure it out in uh Chicago, Uh quite frankly.
(14:06):
For what it's worth, they brought in the new head
coach Fellas to be Yeah, to be to be the
offensive guru, Ben Johnson from Detroit, to be the guy
that tightens up the ship, gets Caleb Williams ready to
go and has this Chicago's Chicago Bears team ready to
(14:27):
rock and roll. Well, here's how Ben Johnson felt about
his team and his offense.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
Uh, coming into.
Speaker 6 (14:35):
This last game, going out of the last game, but
here's how he felt.
Speaker 9 (14:39):
Was not the start we wanted from our ones on
on really offense, defense, we're special teams.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
It was.
Speaker 9 (14:45):
It was a little bit disappointing to see how how
slow we started offensively first two possessions was really sloppy
football that you know has plugged us in and out
of camp so far, and unfortunately that's that's what we
got here to night. There was a number of things
that we could have done a better job of.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
I don't know that that sounds too positive. Fellas, Listen,
I'm I'm not high on the Bears. I know they
got talent there. There's obviously the idea that Caleb Williams
will take a very well I don't think he needs
to take a crazy leap, but bears the idea that
he may take a really really good step in step
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forward into having a better sophomore season this year. But
it just doesn't seem like maybe Ben Johnson has totally
sold on on what he's seeing and what they're trying
to do with this team. How do you see it
playing out for Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams and the
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Chicago Bears, Fellas.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Man, this is a This is a tough one because
it's all gonna boil down to one guy, Cayler Williams.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
That's what's gonna go down to.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
If Caleb Williams plays well, the Chicago Bears are gonna
be a hell of a football team. You're in the
division with Green Bay in the Detroit Lions, where we
assume they're gonna be at the top. And I said
green Bay first because of the Detroit Lions with a
turnover on the offense side of the ball with the
coordinator de even started the ball with the coordinator Ben
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Johnson Aaron Glenn, respectively. You just don't know how they're
going to be on both sides of the balls. I
just don't know. I don't know what I'm gonna get
from JJ McCarthy. I don't know. I know what I'm
getting from Jordan Love. I know what I'm getting from
Jared Golf. I don't know what I'm gonna get from
j McCarthy. And that Na's why I didn't say those
say the Viking's name and his name. But it's gonna
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boil down to Caleb Williams running this offense the way
Ben Johnson wants to run it. Like you look at
last night preseason game, first two possessions, sloppy, not very good.
Got home last night, watched it. It wasn't very good.
They're down. I believe it was seventeen points. Tyson Badger
who just signed a contract. Great story, great kid, brings
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it back from seventeen, Like, you gotta play better when
you're Cayleb Williams and you're the starters. And so if
Cayleb Williams can be what many thought he would be,
then the Chicago Bears gonna be right there in the
thick of things. And if the Chicago Bears aren't right there,
this is gonna go on Kayler Williams. Because Ben Johnson
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is proven, he's proven he resurrected Jared Goff's career. He's
proven I can run an offense, were gonna go up
and down the field if you're running my office the
correct way. And if they aren't doing that, it's not
being random correct way.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
You know what, man, It's all about accountability. And that
is exactly what Ben Johnson is doing. He's sending a message.
Chicago is one of the probably the second or third
biggest media marketing in the world, and he's sending a
message to Caleb Williams and hold the Chicago Bears team
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and organization that we're not good enough. And that's what
you want from a head coach, especially a first year
head coach. And he was a part of the highest
scoring offense of the previous year with the with the
Detroit Lions and Jared guff so he knows what it takes.
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And I like that from him because he's sent in
a message said, this is sloppy football and we have
to we have to clean it up if we want
to be able to compete in this NFC North Division,
because I know it all too well, and he's sitting
in a message to him and the whole entire team.
You know what, there's no more excuses for Keller Williams.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
He has all he has all.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
The tools wide receivers that they have loaded uh offensive
line defense.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
So he has to be.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Able to go out and compete and to be able
to manage his football team and to stand up to
being the first pick in the NFL draft.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
That's what he has to do.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
And I love that from Ben Johnson because you know what,
we're not good enough right now. We're playing slopper, you
know what, And we haven't seen enough from Caleb Williams
to really gauge him to where he is going to
be as a quarterback moving forward. So listen, I love
nothing more than a head coach who was honest and
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he knows what it takes.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
He's the offense of Guru.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
He basically he went down to Detroit and reinvented Jared
Golfer in that whole offense and that whole organization. And
and Caleb Williams has more weapons around him than Jared
golf has in Detroit.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Well maybe not. I ain't gonna take it that far,
but I'm gonna go that far. But man, who.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
Has more pressure on him? Guys, who has more pressure?
Is it Caleb? Is it Johnson? Is it the GM
who has the most pressure on them to perform this year.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Hey, who's unproven on all the names? Ben Johnson is
proven the gym. I'm not even gonna lie. Pace is done.
He's done the hell of a job putting a team
together that I believe. I'm sorry. Poles, Ryan Poles. That
very competitive. He's put it very very competitive on paper
the names. So the one that's unproven is Caleb Williams.
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All the pressure is on Caleb.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
All that should the pressure?
Speaker 6 (20:36):
Should that pressure be that high for a second year
player at that position?
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Hey, man, when you're giving great things. You drafted number one,
These expectations are warranted. When you day one, people said
he was a generational quarterback like Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
Yes, they did.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Everybody wanted him.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Everybody in the National Football League would have drafted him
number one.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Nail.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Don't say we will take Jade Daniels when they say
that now, but they weren't saying that before the drafts on.
There was some people on this.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
It was I was saying that from the door.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
It was one guy that was in the National Football
League that was high up that I know would have
taken him, and that was Antonio Pierce. He will exactly
Antonio Pierce literally was like, I'm taking Jayde Daniels number one,
and it looked like he was on the something and
look how they're doing.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
But all the pressure has to be on Kayler Williams, right,
it has to be.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
I feel like it has to be on I feel
like it's got to be on polls because he took
him with the number one pick and didn't take Jaydon Danny.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
But am I right that everybody that's not Antonio Pierce
would have taken them.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
But my whole thing is you got to be the
guy that sees it. You gotta be you gotta see that.
There might have been some cracks and what Cayla Williams
would be as a quarterback in the league.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
I did.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
We were on this very show, Todd. There were cracks.
Speaker 6 (21:59):
I'm sorry, I don't want my number one pick to
be jumping into the stands crying in his mama's arms.
I don't, I don't. That's a crack.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
I'm sorry, I'm a crack. It's a crack. I just
don't want to see that. There's certain things that.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
There were times during the season in some of those
games that it was like, I don't know, man. After
that post after that campaign of winning the Heisman his
last year in school.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
I don't know, man, I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
You gotta be held accountable for if you're saying this
is a for sure like you can't just be like
everybody else thinks it's a for sure shot number one.
Everybody else thinks he's a can't miss, So we're gonna
go take him like you got.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
It's a short thing.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
This is how football was young and stroud. This is
how football works, man, true ninety. If everybody would have
taken Kayler Williams, you beat the outlier and bea that
ten percent and draft somebody else and it doesn't work,
and Kayler Williams ends up being a star, you'll never
get that position again.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
Make sense.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
So this is what we all know that.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
We all know that, and that's and that's why he
drafted Kayler Williams one, because everybody thought Cale Williams to
be drafted number one. And if you if you're gonna
get in your convicted majority.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
I don't believe in not living in my own convictions.
Making the decision means that if what just played out,
what you said, my guy doesn't perform.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
But the other guy performed.
Speaker 6 (23:33):
I'm I'm willing to accept what the consequences of that
era because I did my job to the best of
my Billy.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Now, you don't believe Ryan Poles really thought that Kaylor
Williams was the best he did.
Speaker 6 (23:44):
What I'm saying is is that then.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
There should be pressure on Ryan Poles.
Speaker 6 (23:50):
Wise, Caleb Williams doesn't look like a better quarterback than
Jaydon Daniels, but you had an opportunity to draft him
number one.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
That is very true. But I hate to say everybody
with E and.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
I, I don't do this everybody, but I don't. I
don't work hard to do it for everybody. I do
it for what I come up with.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
It's easy to be you.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
Know what you talking about, right, I don't know what
he does. Don't be worried about everybody.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
You guys are being Monday Morning quarterbacks. It's easy to
look at how Jay Daniels played as a rookie and say.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
Said, I'm taking I said it before the draft. Hey,
we're talking about I said it before the draft.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Evaluating talent. That's credible.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Listen, correct, I saw nobody was due at l s
U going into the draft.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Versus Caleb Williams.
Speaker 6 (24:44):
He had that's all I'm listen, and won the Heisman.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
He was coming off the hot hand.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
I don't I'm not disagreeing with you guys.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
I'm not disagreeing with Monday Morning Quarterback, the dude.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Ball guys, Saturday morning.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
You you guys are acting like you guys are acting
like Jade Daniels on the scale of one to one
hundred is a ninety nine and Kayler.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Williams, No, I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (25:11):
I'm saying, going into the scenario, I'm saying, going into
the scenario of the draft, that jayde and Daniels was
the better pick. I said that before ahead of the draft.
That was not after the draft.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
That was not.
Speaker 6 (25:22):
A after last season because I don't think Kayler Williams
had a bad season. I do not think that it
was a bust of a season at all. I just
don't think that they were very good. And he wasn't
good in spite of like if you're saying generational title,
he wasn't a generational guy.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
He was not better in spite of he was good,
wasn't great.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
He was good. Daniels was great.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
But you gotta look at this perfect where they've played
at Commanders. When Jayan Daniels through that, Hell, Mary, that's
when the wheel started to come off for Chicago Bears.
That that's when they just went after that game.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Believe the games in a row.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
But if you think about it, his offensive coaching matters
in the National Football League. And this is why I
believe who chooses the coach, he should be better and
he needs to be better. Yeah, ess the coach Pole's
is wrong. It's not about choosing uber Flues. It's about
choosing to bring him back another year. But if you
(26:22):
couldn't get Ben Johnson, then I get it, because I
think Ben Johnson is fantastic.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
But calm, I'm coming to the same conclusion. It's the
pressure I believe is on the GM more so than anybody.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
A man that GM. I believe that he's done. Just
look at the talent he's acquired, an offensive line, the receivers,
the defense.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Pre Cayler Williams.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
That's exactly right, william.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
Exactly right, for the same reasons you just gave and
you just stayed a DJ is the reason why the
pressure should be because if you put the coach in
place that that has the resume. You've put the players
in position that have the the you know, the potential
to be what they're going to be. Then it's on
the GM.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
It's on the It's on the players to perform. Kayla,
Williams gotta perform. The GM can't go play for him.
He got to perform.
Speaker 6 (27:19):
You were the first pick of the drimform. You have
to know, like really really really don't but you you're
going to be held to that standard, DJ if you're
you're going to be held to the standard if your
players don't play up to what they were expected to
play at.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Listen, man, we we don't see a lot of general
manager turnover. We were not seeing those guys get fired.
The players got to perform. Now, you got to put
them in a situation to be successful. I don't believe
he had the coaching staff last year that put the
players in a situation advantageous situations to be and perform
(27:57):
at their best this year. I don't believe that's the case.
This is on the players, specifically, Caleb Williams got to
get it done and he has to play better. He
has to lead them to victories. Yes, statistically he wasn't bad.
He took a lot of sacks. He wasn't bad statistically,
but wins and losses is where it matters. And you
(28:19):
have a coach. Jared Goff was basically giving away for
a bag of chips. Bro They begged Detroit to take them. Here,
we're gonna give your first round pick. We're gonna give
you this. Jared Goff is one of the best quarterbacks
in the league right now, and it's Ben Johnson resurrected him.
And so if he can do that with Jared Goff,
you can't do it with a guy that many thought
was the best quarterbacks since Patrick Mahomes. Come on, man,
(28:42):
that's what we hope for.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
But I don't know.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
In this office, they just don't really look good right now.
And it's the preseason, so I don't know. Man, I
gotta give on this one.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
Well, we're gonna see how it happen.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
Is because like I always say, they gotta play the
games and somebody's got to be held accountable if they
don't do well, just like somebody's going to gain the praise.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
If they do. So here it is.
Speaker 6 (29:11):
But let's take a break, well not a break, but
let's let's get a let's get an update from Isaac Loehincron.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
All right, here we go, i Loo, what you got LaVar?
Speaker 10 (29:19):
We have two seconds left in the first half in
the first game of the twenty twenty five college football season,
with seventeenth rank Kansas State and number twenty two Iowa
State tied at seven in Dublin, Ireland. Iowa State getting
on the scoreboard first out of twenty three yard touchdown
pass from Rocko Beck to Dominick overby Kansas State, tying
the score out a ten yard touchdown run by Avery
(29:40):
Johnson and guys. One of the signs that college football
is officially back is fans of their own teams complaining
about them on internet message boards, even though Kansas State
and Iowa State are both undefeated, even though the score
is tied. Let's check out some of the posts as
we be, courtesy of the popular social media site message
(30:03):
board Geniuses. On the Iowa State message boards at Walden
four pres post end quote the O line sucks, play
calling is bleep, yep, it's football season. Meanwhile at ste
Wow simply commenting quote clown show unquote. Meanwhile, fans of
(30:23):
the opposing team, Kansas State not exactly thrilled either at
Lavender Gooms commenting quote we are the same bleeping team
that we are every bleeping year unquote, and at screen
Name commenting quote typical we have a chance to grab
this game by the horns, but instead we step on
(30:44):
our bleep and come up short unquote. The thing that
LaVar endorses might be able to help with that anyway,
I'm just saying. NFL preseason, the Ravens have a twenty
seven to three halftime late of the Washington Commanders. Baltimore's
key On Martin twenty six yard interception return for a
touchdown off of Sam Hartman pass the Indianapolis Colts a
(31:05):
ten to nothing lead at Cincinnati with two minutes to
go in the first quarter. The Browns lead the Rams
seven to nothing with three and a half to play
in the first quarter on a fifteen yard touchdown pass
from Joe Flacco to Harold Fannin. Lions up seven to
three over the Texans after one on a thirty three
yard touchdown pass from Kyle Allen to Isaac Taslaw, and
the Saints up six to three over the Broncos after one.
(31:27):
One major League baseball game going on right now, Yankees
and Red Sox scoreless after two lebar back to.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
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we were going to talk James Franklin. We ran out
of time. But on the other side of the break,
we gotta talk Matthew Stafford. He returns to practice. You know, pluck,
you got to back. I got it back. I don't
(32:17):
know how your back feels ToJ But.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Come on, man, we we all all three of us.
Were we bad backs?
Speaker 6 (32:24):
Okay, all three of us three, I mean super pause,
but we are back, dudes. We got to talk about
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(33:32):
Jonas Knox will be coming up immediately following our show,
so you know, if you want to tune into him
and listen to him talk, you know, yeah, you know,
take a chance.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
You know, I like, oh, okay, well maybe we will.
But anyway, speaking of taking a.
Speaker 6 (33:51):
Chance, oh no, no, no, seems like Matthew Stafford is
trying to get back to practice, trying to get back
to what he's got going on to be ready for
the season. Fellas, I gotta tell you, when I hear
disc anything that has to do with the disc connected
(34:12):
to your spinal cord and this, that and the other.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
It ain't getting better.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
This is not going This is not some Oh we
rested him and now he's going to come out and
he's going to be ready to go. You know, bats
don't get better when you're talking about like this, that
are are you know, getting away from you degenerating and
all that stuff. What's y'all's take on this? Do you
think he makes it through the season?
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Like?
Speaker 6 (34:38):
Are the Rams in a bit of a pickle here
trying to gamble on the fact that Matthew Stafford's back
may hold up for the season.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Hey man, I've had back problems when I was playing.
I fractured a transverse process in my back. Oh it
miss It's the bones that protect you a spine, and
I could barely walk. I didn't miss it. I didn't
miss a game. I didn't miss a game. But that
was like the beginning of the end, because just I'll
(35:12):
just be picking up something. Oh back go out. Even
to this day, once or twice a year, my back
go out. I can't walk for like a month. I
can't walk, but I'm walking like I'm eighty five and
it comes and goes. You just never know. You be
feeling good now, wake up like, damn, why my back hurt?
What I do yesterday? And so I believe Stafford is
(35:35):
thirty seven. You'll wake up feeling good the next day
it doesn't feel too well and he getting treatmented on
it every day.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
And so it's what you said.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
You just don't know what tomorrow is gonna be when
you have a bad back. You may sleep wrong, you
may have done something the day before, or your back
just say you know what, I'm gonna act up today.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
That's something that kept had determined.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
And man, I feel bad for him because he probably
feel great today and tomorrow Hill felt like trash. And
it's just that's what happens. At least that's my experience.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Man. Let me tell you on his back is a
real deal.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
I experienced back sasms for the first time in my life,
and I believe in old one and it never went away.
For the people that don't know, uh. In my twelve
year NFL career, I had eight epidurals. That's almost like
one every year, and I had about fall five of them. Yeah,
(36:36):
I ran into the trainer for the new york I said, man,
I heard a thing going. I say, everything's going good?
I said, I said, how's everything going over here? He said, man,
we're still trying to find players like you to play
off of epidor in seventy two hours. If you don't know,
I had a spinal cord fusion. But uh, four years
(36:58):
ago between my OL four and L five, Well my
that was that long ago. Yeah, completely effused. And the
simple thing of making up my bed and training camp
what sends my back into spasms? And if you can't
(37:18):
put a damn sheet over your bed, how can you
play football? And that's what people don't understand. Did they
just see everything on Sundays? Everything is glamour, everything is sweet,
But man, there was some sundays man I was hurting.
There was no way in the world I was supposed
to pleat be playing football. But my model was if
(37:40):
I can walk, I can play. And that back is
the real deal, especially for a quarterback having to be
able to maneuver in the pocket and the torque and
him throwing the football.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
You know, Father time is a bad.
Speaker 5 (37:56):
Man can make it? Do you guys think he can
make it?
Speaker 6 (38:00):
Knowing that it's it's that it's this is it sounds chronic.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
He hasn't played yet. Yeah, right, thirty seven, that's thirty seven.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
They need to be coming up with a plan.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
All the hit he taking Detroit, that that's where it's
coming from. It's all that. It's all that wearing tearing Detroit.
It's catching up to him. Man, it's the real deal.
I don't know what what with Sean McVay and the Rams.
The plans are moving forward, but they need to immediately
start looking at a replacement or obviously a future franchise
(38:36):
quarter that moving forward, because if he's he if he's
having back poppers right now at thirty seven, it's not
going to go away. It's still going to pop up
moving forward. So they need to start considering a franchise quarterback.
Speaker 6 (38:50):
Like people were high on Stetson Bennett, Jimmy Garoppolo is
the backup? Can they carry the load? And can this
Rams team be a legitimate team if it has to
be Jimmy Garoppolo or Stetson Bennett? No, hm hm, As
your question, TJ, you you agree.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
I like Stetson Bennett, man, Like.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
Jimmy g was very good for the San Francisco forty
nine is very good. Once he left Shanahan, he was
never the Jimmy g that we thought he was, and
so I would roll with Stetson Bennett.
Speaker 6 (39:29):
M all right, well you guys heard it here. The
day has come to an end for us, so make
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(39:51):
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the blood out of it, you dig.
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This this is our show, you know, up on Game.
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I'm just bringing the viewers into how grown men in
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that you disrespect them anyway, it didn't matter who it
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And Blaxico Burrows.
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They are the same person, the same exact quarterback.
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Speaker 5 (00:56):
All right, welcome in the hour two of the show.
This is up on Game.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
St J.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
Hoodemanzata, It's Plexico Burst. You may know them as.
Speaker 6 (01:05):
Pantemn and Stretch Armstrong and I'm LeVar Arrington.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
That's right.
Speaker 6 (01:12):
I tried to give y'all radio voice entry because I
messed up. I gaffed up highlights coming in from the
last break.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
But that's all right.
Speaker 6 (01:17):
It's on the water under the bridge. And you know what,
maybe Anthony Richardson's careers I mean for that to be
the segway, but I mean, but let's talk about it.
The Colts have benched your boy, Anthony Richardson, y'all and listen,
they did it in favor of your boy, Plexico Bird.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Don't be lying the people on the radio.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Oh though, we come to the.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Of the road, leg go is this the Hey? What
pick was Anthony richards and TJ Man? Fourth? I believe
I believe it was the fourth pick.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Daniel Jones is the starting quarterback of an Indianapolis coach.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
That's wild, ain't it? It is? Uh, it's something special.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Got number five twenty three years old.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
M h still got a chance. But man, when you
it's the second time, it's fourth.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
Yeah, this is the second time.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Is a fourth? See, this is what happens. Though when
you have to number five, he wasn't here. Yeah he
was a fourth pick. This is this is what happens.
When he made that comment and people glossed over it
like it was nothing, that he basically took himself out
the game because he was tired. To me, that was
the beginning of the end. You can never do that.
(02:56):
I don't care what position you are, especially as the quarterback.
Are you got doing the next play? You probably don't
turn around handed off. Now You're good, You're not tired,
no more.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
Take a knee.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
You just you can't.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
You you can feel that way, you can think that way.
When they ask you why you come out the game.
You can never say, oh, I was tired. You can
never say that to me.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
You can't. That's showing a sign of weakness.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
And he was a young kid, or a young kid,
a young man, and he made that mistake in the masses.
Will never let him get over that. And the team
looked at him different, the coaching staff, the front office,
they looked at him different. And so once he made
that comment, it's unfortunate, man, But he's gonna be fighting
(03:45):
up Hill's what you said. Like, Daniel Jones is a
starting quarterback. And Daniel Jones couldn't do much of anything
when he was with the New York Johns.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
And so.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
This is gonna be very interesting because I think the
world of d was an offensive coach and Shane Steike
and obviously did wonders in Philly. So if they can
get something out of Daniel Jones. Shane Steike might as
well go ahead and get this contract extension because he
making bread with no flour.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
You've seen Daniel Jones in New York plaques. What give
me the four one one man? How does this happen?
Speaker 4 (04:22):
I just don't believe that Daniel Jones is a starting quarterback.
I just don't. Obviously, when they signed him to the
Indianapolis coach after you draft of Anthony and Richardson with
the fourth pick, I think everybody Antennis kind of went
him like, why would you bring him into the building
(04:42):
to uh, you know, compete with Anthony Richardson, who you dressed,
who you just drafted a few years ago. And this
young man is twenty three years old. But Anthony Richardson
hasn't been able to stay healthy.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
We all know that. H we haven't really.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Seen him progress as to being one of the good
quarterbacks in this league where he was drafted at.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
But if you're the.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Indianapolis coach and you're going into the Week one with
Daniel Jones as you're starting quarterback, I just don't see
how Anthony Richardson comes back from this because basically, what
you're saying you drafted this man high. Now that you're
competing during the training camp and preseason, you won't get
(05:36):
to see Anthony Richardson developed as a professional quarterback. Obviously
he's been hurt, but the talent is there. Nobody's disputing
his arm, you know, his mobility to be able to
make plays in and out of the pocket. But to
insert Daniel Jones in front of him. I watched his
(05:57):
interview after this decision was made, and you can visually
see that the young man was hurt. And I just
don't see how you come back from Daniel Jones being
they even start a quarterback of an organization that drafted
you there to be the franchise quarterback and now you're
(06:18):
going to be the backup as the fourth pick in
the NFL draft. So I don't see him really. I
don't know what the Indianaplis Colt are going to do,
but uh, I think it's the beginning of the end
of Anthony Richardson Indianapolis.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I believe that he needs a fresh start.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
We got to find a way to keep him healthy
and so we can see him try to, you know,
make progress as being one of the young good quarterbacks
in this league.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Go ahead, DJ, listen when you really delve into this
and really look, Daniel Jones is twenty games under five
hundred as a quarterback. If you believe he's your answer.
And he had a head coach that was an offensive
guy on Brian Dable. He's twenty games five hundred as
(07:19):
a starter. And it's the thing, though, when Anthony Richardson
got drafted, what did everybody say? He's a project? He
needs to be developed. So the coachs they're not blameless
in this. You knew he was a project. You knew
he didn't start a lot of games when he was
at the University of Florida. And this is a second
time you didn't bench him. You benched him last year
(07:45):
or two years ago. And now Daniel Jones, who's twenty
games under five hundred as a starter, he's now your starter.
But you knew Anthony Richardson was a project when you
drafted him. What you want that project to accelerate? You
knew what it was when you drafted him.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
And so it makes you like.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Indianapolis coach, why are you guys going back and forth
with Anthony Richardson. He's a starter, he's not Why you
knew it was a project, and so to me, sometimes
these organizations and I think Chris ballad and shame. I
think they do a wonderful job. I really do. But
you can't do this with a young quarterback that everybody
(08:29):
knew was a project. Everybody knew it, and so all
you're doing is hurting a young man. And I don't understand, Like,
why why draft him if you weren't gonna give him
enough rope to play and understand the game, and then
when he gets in the game, if he's not doing it. Okay,
(08:50):
I got like this third year, had he not got
hurt last year, he played his entire rookie season, you
let him start the first have very many games of
this year. Then you say, you know what, he's not
the answer. You don't even know if he's the answer
because he hasn't played enough games in the National Football
League after not playing enough games in college football.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
Also, wow, all I'll say is he's got two opportunities here,
here's what's working on his side. I do not think
Daniel Jones can carry the load for the entire season.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
Pause all right, I do not believe he can.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
So Anthony Richardson, stay ready because when he plays poorly enough,
they will come back to you. So take your mental reps.
I don't believe in and and you guys mentioned it.
Once you get into the regular season, this is not
about developing Anthony Richardson's It's about Ken Daniel Jones lead
(09:44):
our team to wins.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
That's what the focus is.
Speaker 6 (09:46):
He's going to get the reps, He's going to get
the attention, and that's what it's going to be. It's
going to be up to Anthony Richardson to get into
the playbook, get into the film room, stay late, come early,
do the things that he needs to do to try
to progress himself, because I believe he's going to get
another shot at it. The second way is injury, which
you never wish a you know, ill will upon someone
(10:09):
no one. You don't want to get another opportunity based
off of somebody else's demise because that could be you
that somebody else is getting an opportunity based off of
your demise in that moment, So you never want to
see it happen that way, but it is a part
of the game. People do get hurt and other guys
have to step in. Those to me are the two
ways that he can get an opportunity to get back
(10:30):
in the game and have a chance. I wonder if
he will be good enough and if this team will
be good enough for him to be able to maintain
after he gets back in. If he gets back in,
I'm not sure how good this team will be. I
like the fact that they added Tyler Warren, obviously a
(10:52):
Penn Stater, I like Michael Pittman. If Jonathan Taylor is healthy,
you got a nice compliment of of players that can
take the pressure off of Daniel Jones, can take it
off of Anthony Richardson if he's in there. But my
whole contingent contingency here is is that if you've had
(11:15):
all these weapons except for Tyler Warren, which Tyler Warren
will to me have the potential to have significant impact
on this offense. But with that being said, let's be clear.
Let's be clear, I'm not sure how good this Indianapolis
Colts team is. No matter who their quarterback is, I'm
(11:35):
just not really sure where they're.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
Going, you know.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
So it could be a I don't know, it could
be a blessing in disguise, but it could be not
so much of a blessing in disguss.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
I just don't really know how it plays out, because
this team, it's not like Anthony Richardson will get in
and be the savior of the team. If Daniel Jones
is not the answer, I'm assuming if Daniel Jones isn't
the answer, then the problem is bigger than the quarterbacks position.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
And that's my take on it. So I don't know.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
I think Anthony and Richardson finds himself in a pretty
pretty curious position, a very you know, could be considered
a compromising situation in terms of being a starting quarterback
in the National Football League. But hey, we'll wait and
see how it all plays out. You heard it here,
that's the conversation. And well we're gonna take a quick break.
And on the other side of the break, well, you
(12:32):
know what it is. We always talking about something, and
that's something, Well, ah Man unhappy with offense in the
final preseason game. You're gonna find out who the person
is and you're gonna find out the team. It's an
NFL team unhappy with your offense in the final preseason game.
(12:56):
And when you hear the name and the team is
going to be a gagger. We're going to take a
quick break and we'll be right back. This is that
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All right, welcome back into the show. I'll figure it out,
don't worry about it. Yeah, welcome back into the show.
This is up on Game. We always figure it out,
you know, that's how it works out. And well they're
trying to figure it out in uh Chicago, Uh quite frankly.
(14:06):
For what it's worth, they brought in the new head
coach Fellas to be Yeah, to be to be the
offensive guru, Ben Johnson from Detroit, to be the guy
that tightens up the ship, gets Caleb Williams ready to
go and has this Chicago's Chicago Bears team ready to
(14:27):
rock and roll. Well, here's how Ben Johnson felt about
his team and his offense.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
Uh, coming into.
Speaker 6 (14:35):
This last game, going out of the last game, but
here's how he felt.
Speaker 9 (14:39):
Was not the start we wanted from our ones on
on really offense, defense, we're special teams.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
It was.
Speaker 9 (14:45):
It was a little bit disappointing to see how how
slow we started offensively first two possessions was really sloppy
football that you know has plugged us in and out
of camp so far, and unfortunately that's that's what we
got here to night. There was a number of things
that we could have done a better job of.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
I don't know that that sounds too positive. Fellas, Listen,
I'm I'm not high on the Bears. I know they
got talent there. There's obviously the idea that Caleb Williams
will take a very well I don't think he needs
to take a crazy leap, but bears the idea that
he may take a really really good step in step
(15:28):
forward into having a better sophomore season this year. But
it just doesn't seem like maybe Ben Johnson has totally
sold on on what he's seeing and what they're trying
to do with this team. How do you see it
playing out for Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams and the
(15:48):
Chicago Bears, Fellas.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Man, this is a This is a tough one because
it's all gonna boil down to one guy, Cayler Williams.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
That's what's gonna go down to.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
If Caleb Williams plays well, the Chicago Bears are gonna
be a hell of a football team. You're in the
division with Green Bay in the Detroit Lions, where we
assume they're gonna be at the top. And I said
green Bay first because of the Detroit Lions with a
turnover on the offense side of the ball with the
coordinator de even started the ball with the coordinator Ben
(16:21):
Johnson Aaron Glenn, respectively. You just don't know how they're
going to be on both sides of the balls. I
just don't know. I don't know what I'm gonna get
from JJ McCarthy. I don't know. I know what I'm
getting from Jordan Love. I know what I'm getting from
Jared Golf. I don't know what I'm gonna get from
j McCarthy. And that Na's why I didn't say those
say the Viking's name and his name. But it's gonna
(16:45):
boil down to Caleb Williams running this offense the way
Ben Johnson wants to run it. Like you look at
last night preseason game, first two possessions, sloppy, not very good.
Got home last night, watched it. It wasn't very good.
They're down. I believe it was seventeen points. Tyson Badger
who just signed a contract. Great story, great kid, brings
(17:05):
it back from seventeen, Like, you gotta play better when
you're Cayleb Williams and you're the starters. And so if
Cayleb Williams can be what many thought he would be,
then the Chicago Bears gonna be right there in the
thick of things. And if the Chicago Bears aren't right there,
this is gonna go on Kayler Williams. Because Ben Johnson
(17:27):
is proven, he's proven he resurrected Jared Goff's career. He's
proven I can run an offense, were gonna go up
and down the field if you're running my office the
correct way. And if they aren't doing that, it's not
being random correct way.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
You know what, man, It's all about accountability. And that
is exactly what Ben Johnson is doing. He's sending a message.
Chicago is one of the probably the second or third
biggest media marketing in the world, and he's sending a
message to Caleb Williams and hold the Chicago Bears team
(18:02):
and organization that we're not good enough. And that's what
you want from a head coach, especially a first year
head coach. And he was a part of the highest
scoring offense of the previous year with the with the
Detroit Lions and Jared guff so he knows what it takes.
(18:23):
And I like that from him because he's sent in
a message said, this is sloppy football and we have
to we have to clean it up if we want
to be able to compete in this NFC North Division,
because I know it all too well, and he's sitting
in a message to him and the whole entire team.
You know what, there's no more excuses for Keller Williams.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
He has all he has all.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
The tools wide receivers that they have loaded uh offensive
line defense.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
So he has to be.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Able to go out and compete and to be able
to manage his football team and to stand up to
being the first pick in the NFL draft.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
That's what he has to do.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
And I love that from Ben Johnson because you know what,
we're not good enough right now. We're playing slopper, you
know what, And we haven't seen enough from Caleb Williams
to really gauge him to where he is going to
be as a quarterback moving forward. So listen, I love
nothing more than a head coach who was honest and
(19:33):
he knows what it takes.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
He's the offense of Guru.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
He basically he went down to Detroit and reinvented Jared
Golfer in that whole offense and that whole organization. And
and Caleb Williams has more weapons around him than Jared
golf has in Detroit.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Well maybe not. I ain't gonna take it that far,
but I'm gonna go that far. But man, who.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
Has more pressure on him? Guys, who has more pressure?
Is it Caleb? Is it Johnson? Is it the GM
who has the most pressure on them to perform this year.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Hey, who's unproven on all the names? Ben Johnson is
proven the gym. I'm not even gonna lie. Pace is done.
He's done the hell of a job putting a team
together that I believe. I'm sorry. Poles, Ryan Poles. That
very competitive. He's put it very very competitive on paper
the names. So the one that's unproven is Caleb Williams.
(20:33):
All the pressure is on Caleb.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
All that should the pressure?
Speaker 6 (20:36):
Should that pressure be that high for a second year
player at that position?
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Hey, man, when you're giving great things. You drafted number one,
These expectations are warranted. When you day one, people said
he was a generational quarterback like Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
Yes, they did.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Everybody wanted him.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Everybody in the National Football League would have drafted him
number one.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Nail.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Don't say we will take Jade Daniels when they say
that now, but they weren't saying that before the drafts on.
There was some people on this.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
It was I was saying that from the door.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
It was one guy that was in the National Football
League that was high up that I know would have
taken him, and that was Antonio Pierce. He will exactly
Antonio Pierce literally was like, I'm taking Jayde Daniels number one,
and it looked like he was on the something and
look how they're doing.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
But all the pressure has to be on Kayler Williams, right,
it has to be.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
I feel like it has to be on I feel
like it's got to be on polls because he took
him with the number one pick and didn't take Jaydon Danny.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
But am I right that everybody that's not Antonio Pierce
would have taken them.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
But my whole thing is you got to be the
guy that sees it. You gotta be you gotta see that.
There might have been some cracks and what Cayla Williams
would be as a quarterback in the league.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
I did.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
We were on this very show, Todd. There were cracks.
Speaker 6 (21:59):
I'm sorry, I don't want my number one pick to
be jumping into the stands crying in his mama's arms.
I don't, I don't. That's a crack.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
I'm sorry, I'm a crack. It's a crack. I just
don't want to see that. There's certain things that.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
There were times during the season in some of those
games that it was like, I don't know, man. After
that post after that campaign of winning the Heisman his
last year in school.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
I don't know, man, I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
You gotta be held accountable for if you're saying this
is a for sure like you can't just be like
everybody else thinks it's a for sure shot number one.
Everybody else thinks he's a can't miss, So we're gonna
go take him like you got.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
It's a short thing.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
This is how football was young and stroud. This is
how football works, man, true ninety. If everybody would have
taken Kayler Williams, you beat the outlier and bea that
ten percent and draft somebody else and it doesn't work,
and Kayler Williams ends up being a star, you'll never
get that position again.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
Make sense.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
So this is what we all know that.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
We all know that, and that's and that's why he
drafted Kayler Williams one, because everybody thought Cale Williams to
be drafted number one. And if you if you're gonna
get in your convicted majority.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
I don't believe in not living in my own convictions.
Making the decision means that if what just played out,
what you said, my guy doesn't perform.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
But the other guy performed.
Speaker 6 (23:33):
I'm I'm willing to accept what the consequences of that
era because I did my job to the best of
my Billy.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Now, you don't believe Ryan Poles really thought that Kaylor
Williams was the best he did.
Speaker 6 (23:44):
What I'm saying is is that then.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
There should be pressure on Ryan Poles.
Speaker 6 (23:50):
Wise, Caleb Williams doesn't look like a better quarterback than
Jaydon Daniels, but you had an opportunity to draft him
number one.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
That is very true. But I hate to say everybody
with E and.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
I, I don't do this everybody, but I don't. I
don't work hard to do it for everybody. I do
it for what I come up with.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
It's easy to be you.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
Know what you talking about, right, I don't know what
he does. Don't be worried about everybody.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
You guys are being Monday Morning quarterbacks. It's easy to
look at how Jay Daniels played as a rookie and say.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
Said, I'm taking I said it before the draft. Hey,
we're talking about I said it before the draft.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Evaluating talent. That's credible.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Listen, correct, I saw nobody was due at l s
U going into the draft.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Versus Caleb Williams.
Speaker 6 (24:44):
He had that's all I'm listen, and won the Heisman.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
He was coming off the hot hand.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
I don't I'm not disagreeing with you guys.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
I'm not disagreeing with Monday Morning Quarterback, the dude.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Ball guys, Saturday morning.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
You you guys are acting like you guys are acting
like Jade Daniels on the scale of one to one
hundred is a ninety nine and Kayler.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Williams, No, I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (25:11):
I'm saying, going into the scenario, I'm saying, going into
the scenario of the draft, that jayde and Daniels was
the better pick. I said that before ahead of the draft.
That was not after the draft.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
That was not.
Speaker 6 (25:22):
A after last season because I don't think Kayler Williams
had a bad season. I do not think that it
was a bust of a season at all. I just
don't think that they were very good. And he wasn't
good in spite of like if you're saying generational title,
he wasn't a generational guy.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
He was not better in spite of he was good,
wasn't great.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
He was good. Daniels was great.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
But you gotta look at this perfect where they've played
at Commanders. When Jayan Daniels through that, Hell, Mary, that's
when the wheel started to come off for Chicago Bears.
That that's when they just went after that game.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Believe the games in a row.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
But if you think about it, his offensive coaching matters
in the National Football League. And this is why I
believe who chooses the coach, he should be better and
he needs to be better. Yeah, ess the coach Pole's
is wrong. It's not about choosing uber Flues. It's about
choosing to bring him back another year. But if you
(26:22):
couldn't get Ben Johnson, then I get it, because I
think Ben Johnson is fantastic.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
But calm, I'm coming to the same conclusion. It's the
pressure I believe is on the GM more so than anybody.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
A man that GM. I believe that he's done. Just
look at the talent he's acquired, an offensive line, the receivers,
the defense.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Pre Cayler Williams.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
That's exactly right, william.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
Exactly right, for the same reasons you just gave and
you just stayed a DJ is the reason why the
pressure should be because if you put the coach in
place that that has the resume. You've put the players
in position that have the the you know, the potential
to be what they're going to be. Then it's on
the GM.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
It's on the It's on the players to perform. Kayla,
Williams gotta perform. The GM can't go play for him.
He got to perform.
Speaker 6 (27:19):
You were the first pick of the drimform. You have
to know, like really really really don't but you you're
going to be held to that standard, DJ if you're
you're going to be held to the standard if your
players don't play up to what they were expected to
play at.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Listen, man, we we don't see a lot of general
manager turnover. We were not seeing those guys get fired.
The players got to perform. Now, you got to put
them in a situation to be successful. I don't believe
he had the coaching staff last year that put the
players in a situation advantageous situations to be and perform
(27:57):
at their best this year. I don't believe that's the case.
This is on the players, specifically, Caleb Williams got to
get it done and he has to play better. He
has to lead them to victories. Yes, statistically he wasn't bad.
He took a lot of sacks. He wasn't bad statistically,
but wins and losses is where it matters. And you
(28:19):
have a coach. Jared Goff was basically giving away for
a bag of chips. Bro They begged Detroit to take them. Here,
we're gonna give your first round pick. We're gonna give
you this. Jared Goff is one of the best quarterbacks
in the league right now, and it's Ben Johnson resurrected him.
And so if he can do that with Jared Goff,
you can't do it with a guy that many thought
was the best quarterbacks since Patrick Mahomes. Come on, man,
(28:42):
that's what we hope for.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
But I don't know.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
In this office, they just don't really look good right now.
And it's the preseason, so I don't know. Man, I
gotta give on this one.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
Well, we're gonna see how it happen.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
Is because like I always say, they gotta play the
games and somebody's got to be held accountable if they
don't do well, just like somebody's going to gain the praise.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
If they do. So here it is.
Speaker 6 (29:11):
But let's take a break, well not a break, but
let's let's get a let's get an update from Isaac Loehincron.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
All right, here we go, i Loo, what you got LaVar?
Speaker 10 (29:19):
We have two seconds left in the first half in
the first game of the twenty twenty five college football season,
with seventeenth rank Kansas State and number twenty two Iowa
State tied at seven in Dublin, Ireland. Iowa State getting
on the scoreboard first out of twenty three yard touchdown
pass from Rocko Beck to Dominick overby Kansas State, tying
the score out a ten yard touchdown run by Avery
(29:40):
Johnson and guys. One of the signs that college football
is officially back is fans of their own teams complaining
about them on internet message boards, even though Kansas State
and Iowa State are both undefeated, even though the score
is tied. Let's check out some of the posts as
we be, courtesy of the popular social media site message
(30:03):
board Geniuses. On the Iowa State message boards at Walden
four pres post end quote the O line sucks, play
calling is bleep, yep, it's football season. Meanwhile at ste
Wow simply commenting quote clown show unquote. Meanwhile, fans of
(30:23):
the opposing team, Kansas State not exactly thrilled either at
Lavender Gooms commenting quote we are the same bleeping team
that we are every bleeping year unquote, and at screen
Name commenting quote typical we have a chance to grab
this game by the horns, but instead we step on
(30:44):
our bleep and come up short unquote. The thing that
LaVar endorses might be able to help with that anyway,
I'm just saying. NFL preseason, the Ravens have a twenty
seven to three halftime late of the Washington Commanders. Baltimore's
key On Martin twenty six yard interception return for a
touchdown off of Sam Hartman pass the Indianapolis Colts a
(31:05):
ten to nothing lead at Cincinnati with two minutes to
go in the first quarter. The Browns lead the Rams
seven to nothing with three and a half to play
in the first quarter on a fifteen yard touchdown pass
from Joe Flacco to Harold Fannin. Lions up seven to
three over the Texans after one on a thirty three
yard touchdown pass from Kyle Allen to Isaac Taslaw, and
the Saints up six to three over the Broncos after one.
(31:27):
One major League baseball game going on right now, Yankees
and Red Sox scoreless after two lebar back to.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
You appreciate it Alo, Hey, listen up out there.
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of time. But on the other side of the break,
we gotta talk Matthew Stafford. He returns to practice. You know, pluck,
you got to back. I got it back. I don't
(32:17):
know how your back feels ToJ But.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Come on, man, we we all all three of us.
Were we bad backs?
Speaker 6 (32:24):
Okay, all three of us three, I mean super pause,
but we are back, dudes. We got to talk about
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(33:32):
Jonas Knox will be coming up immediately following our show,
so you know, if you want to tune into him
and listen to him talk, you know, yeah, you know,
take a chance.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
You know, I like, oh, okay, well maybe we will.
But anyway, speaking of taking a.
Speaker 6 (33:51):
Chance, oh no, no, no, seems like Matthew Stafford is
trying to get back to practice, trying to get back
to what he's got going on to be ready for
the season. Fellas, I gotta tell you, when I hear
disc anything that has to do with the disc connected
(34:12):
to your spinal cord and this, that and the other.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
It ain't getting better.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
This is not going This is not some Oh we
rested him and now he's going to come out and
he's going to be ready to go. You know, bats
don't get better when you're talking about like this, that
are are you know, getting away from you degenerating and
all that stuff. What's y'all's take on this? Do you
think he makes it through the season?
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Like?
Speaker 6 (34:38):
Are the Rams in a bit of a pickle here
trying to gamble on the fact that Matthew Stafford's back
may hold up for the season.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Hey man, I've had back problems when I was playing.
I fractured a transverse process in my back. Oh it
miss It's the bones that protect you a spine, and
I could barely walk. I didn't miss it. I didn't
miss a game. I didn't miss a game. But that
was like the beginning of the end, because just I'll
(35:12):
just be picking up something. Oh back go out. Even
to this day, once or twice a year, my back
go out. I can't walk for like a month. I
can't walk, but I'm walking like I'm eighty five and
it comes and goes. You just never know. You be
feeling good now, wake up like, damn, why my back hurt?
What I do yesterday? And so I believe Stafford is
(35:35):
thirty seven. You'll wake up feeling good the next day
it doesn't feel too well and he getting treatmented on
it every day.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
And so it's what you said.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
You just don't know what tomorrow is gonna be when
you have a bad back. You may sleep wrong, you
may have done something the day before, or your back
just say you know what, I'm gonna act up today.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
That's something that kept had determined.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
And man, I feel bad for him because he probably
feel great today and tomorrow Hill felt like trash. And
it's just that's what happens. At least that's my experience.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Man. Let me tell you on his back is a
real deal.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
I experienced back sasms for the first time in my life,
and I believe in old one and it never went away.
For the people that don't know, uh. In my twelve
year NFL career, I had eight epidurals. That's almost like
one every year, and I had about fall five of them. Yeah,
(36:36):
I ran into the trainer for the new york I said, man,
I heard a thing going. I say, everything's going good?
I said, I said, how's everything going over here? He said, man,
we're still trying to find players like you to play
off of epidor in seventy two hours. If you don't know,
I had a spinal cord fusion. But uh, four years
(36:58):
ago between my OL four and L five, Well my
that was that long ago. Yeah, completely effused. And the
simple thing of making up my bed and training camp
what sends my back into spasms? And if you can't
(37:18):
put a damn sheet over your bed, how can you
play football? And that's what people don't understand. Did they
just see everything on Sundays? Everything is glamour, everything is sweet,
But man, there was some sundays man I was hurting.
There was no way in the world I was supposed
to pleat be playing football. But my model was if
(37:40):
I can walk, I can play. And that back is
the real deal, especially for a quarterback having to be
able to maneuver in the pocket and the torque and
him throwing the football.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
You know, Father time is a bad.
Speaker 5 (37:56):
Man can make it? Do you guys think he can
make it?
Speaker 6 (38:00):
Knowing that it's it's that it's this is it sounds chronic.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
He hasn't played yet. Yeah, right, thirty seven, that's thirty seven.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
They need to be coming up with a plan.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
All the hit he taking Detroit, that that's where it's
coming from. It's all that. It's all that wearing tearing Detroit.
It's catching up to him. Man, it's the real deal.
I don't know what what with Sean McVay and the Rams.
The plans are moving forward, but they need to immediately
start looking at a replacement or obviously a future franchise
(38:36):
quarter that moving forward, because if he's he if he's
having back poppers right now at thirty seven, it's not
going to go away. It's still going to pop up
moving forward. So they need to start considering a franchise quarterback.
Speaker 6 (38:50):
Like people were high on Stetson Bennett, Jimmy Garoppolo is
the backup? Can they carry the load? And can this
Rams team be a legitimate team if it has to
be Jimmy Garoppolo or Stetson Bennett? No, hm hm, As
your question, TJ, you you agree.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
I like Stetson Bennett, man, Like.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
Jimmy g was very good for the San Francisco forty
nine is very good. Once he left Shanahan, he was
never the Jimmy g that we thought he was, and
so I would roll with Stetson Bennett.
Speaker 6 (39:29):
M all right, well you guys heard it here. The
day has come to an end for us, so make
sure you stay tuned in four. Yep, that's his name,
Jonas Knocks the vampire himself. You know, he's coming up
out of the coffin. He's he's shining up his his
(39:51):
fangs and he's getting ready to crack that Mike. Suck
the blood out of it, you dig.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
All right?
Speaker 6 (39:57):
This this is our show, you know, up on Game.
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hope you enjoyed the show. But yeah, it's time for
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