Mike Harmon & Greg Cosell react to the Browns vs. Vikings in London, preview Week 5 NFL Matchups, & MORE!

On a new episode of FOX Football Sunday with Mike Harmon & Greg Cosell, Mike and Greg explain why Mac Jones possibly taking the starting gig from Brock Purdy is NOT a conversation, the Ravens struggling, the Eagles wide receiver drama, &  more! 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. Ah, greetings and
welcome in the weeks go by so fast. Here we
are again another beautiful Fox Football Sunday. Here from the
Fox Sports Radio Studios. I'm located in the Greater Los
Angeles area. Greg on the East coast, as we sync
up once again another early game company of this time

(00:23):
from jolly old England. Plenty on that as the Vikings
and Browns get to it. We had a thriller on
Thursday night. So much there. Get your hydration situation going
early because we got a long day of football ahead.
Now you find me over at Swollen don't find my colleague.
My partner here, Greg Cosell at Greg co cell in

(00:45):
the Twitter verse. Forty six years NFL films the NFL
Matchup Show and joined Colin cole cow Heard each week
for what might be the best fifteen minutes outside of
this two hours. You may get Greg, what's going on? Greg?

Speaker 2 (01:04):
How you doing well?

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Push myself down.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
I gotta give colleague.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
I love being with Colin every week. It's so much fun.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
See all right, let's draw it up. What do you see? No,
it's wow, another another week with us already and so
many storylines, and then we get into uh, well the
pesky world of the byes. Uh and week five byes.
I'm always, you know, kind of kind of shrugged the shoulders,
going all right, too early? When do you need it?
When do you need that buye? I would argue most

(01:36):
NFL players would say they need it maybe three or
four weeks from now. But for some coaches, perhaps they
need the uh hit the emergency break now to figure
out what they're doing. I'm looking at green Bay and
their defense. Uh, but we got Pittsburgh, Atlanta, Chicago, and
green Bay on the bye taking that early sabbatical.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yeah, and uh, you know teams like Atlanta, Well, I
guess green Bay played the tie, which was a very
weird game. But uh, Chicago, Atlanta coming off wins, Pittsburgh
coming off a win. You know. It's funny. I spoke
to a coach who's a good friend of mine, who
is on one of the bye teams, and he said, man,
is it so much better when you win the game
going into the by It just makes life so much better?

(02:19):
And I can I can appreciate that because Mike, you
know how these coaches live and die with this stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Well, I'd just say you take that home with you
for the I mean, you got a little extra time,
not that you're not in the office of bunch, but
maybe that extra day off and the outing with the
family doesn't go quite as swimmingly. You know, everybody's looking
at it as surs out of it. At the dinner table,
he was like, hey, past the green beats, what happened
on that third down? Call dad?

Speaker 2 (02:44):
You know, yeah, you probably don't want to go to
the grocery store then, huh.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
No, No, especially some of these big bosses or are
case of the packers, like you could say, yeah, we
scored forty points, but we gave up forty and you know,
Michael Parson's made a big play at the end of
that game and and tripped up Dak Prescott.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
We can always argue about sacks and sacks for zero
zero yards or whatever, but it was a huge play
all the same, but not exactly the juggernaut that came
out in week one like a house of fire these
last couple of weeks, so you know, adjustments in the
bye week certainly there. My hometown is Chicago. They were

(03:21):
feeling pretty good and chesty after one of the many
blocked kicks. Yeah, helped save their bacon and you know
in the post game saying yeah, we saw it, and
a coach put it on tape saying here it is,
here's your opportunity. So they ended up getting that one
and it took down what was a great start from
Ashton genty finally had that breakthrough. But for the Bears,

(03:44):
the offense starting to click, So you perhaps you don't
want that day off.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
You know what I always feel, Mike, And maybe it's
because of what I do. You know, I've been watching
coaching tape I think since maybe nineteen ninety one, nineteen
ninety two. Obviously have spent time with coaches all through
the years. I always feel that coaches need to separate
even though obviously the wins versus the losses matter more
than anything in terms of whether coaches keep their jobs,

(04:09):
But in terms of day to day coaching, I've always
felt that coaches need to separate that from how they
actually played. In other words, you just mentioned the Bears
winning because of a block field goal, So would the
game have been any different other than the final score?
And I'm not saying that's not important, but with the
game have been any different regardless of what had happened

(04:29):
on that play as far as a coach, as far
as when they're analyzing and evaluating here their offense played
or how their defense played, would it have been any
different for the coaching staff, see, in my view, which
shouldn't be different for the coaching staff. You know, just
because they won doesn't mean that all of a sudden
you're saying, hey, everything's really good or or we don't
have to practice as much because we won. You know,

(04:50):
to me, those things should be separate.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
No, I agree with you in theory, And that's where
the human element comes in, right, right, because if I've
had a good day, no matter no matter what goes
on around me, I'd probably take it in stride a
little bit more. But if I'm losing, end to that
after the battle, right, and Caleb had had a game
that was you know, topsy turvy, but they had the

(05:12):
big drive at the end a lot done with it
and predicated his legs and so you try to take
the positive, but certainly that end result again and going
owing to your grocery store.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
No, No, that's right, Yeah, we know that that's the case.
I mean, we can end up talking a little bit
later about the Philadelphia Eagles, you know, which is a
classic case of that. But you know, like for instance,
Ben Johnson, as he works with Caleb Williams through the
bye week, I'm sure that to him what happened on
that block field goal is irrelevant as he's working with

(05:44):
Caleb to keep getting him better and better and better
on a daily and weekly basis.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Absolutely absolutely yeah, that that just has to be pushed
to the side. And then he goes in and hangs
out with the special teams guy WAPs him up and said,
how do we do that again?

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Exactly exactly?

Speaker 1 (06:00):
He gets all that. All right, let's hit the rewind button.
Let's go back to Thursday night. Not the longest of passes,
but one that helps set a game for a young
Mac Jones. Max John's is gonna back out from under center.
He puts McCaffrey out in the slot to the left.
Max John's closed McCaffrey. He's got it.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
Touchdown, touchdown, touchdown for.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
As you can tell, the forty nine Ers radio networking
on the call, fired up Mac Jones getting it done
in grand fashion. We came into that game, we watched
the points spread rise out to an improbable eat and
a half on the strength of a laundry list. It
was longer than Santa's Christmas list or if you've headed
over to you know, the Jack Skellington thing of all

(06:46):
the good, bad, good and bad kids from the Nightmare
before Christmas over in the Disneyland world. I mean, it
just became one after another. You already were missing Kittle,
but one thing that you couldn't get out on the
fact that or maybe folks forgot the long history that
Kendrick Bourne and mac Jones had so they connected ten

(07:08):
times in this game. McCaffrey was still eligible. We can
get into some of the down and distance decisions by
the by the rams through it Greg, But for mac Jones,
what do you what do you see? And you know,
how how long can you have the pixie dust? Or
was it just a victim of circumstance in New England
and Jacksonville.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Well, there's so much to unpack with that game, first
of all, and and with mac Jones they ran eighty
three offensive plays. I felt like I needed a bye
week just to watch the eighty three plays.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
You know that's a couple hours of area.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Yeah, it's it's well more than that, believe me the
way I watched the tape. But you know, a couple
of points. Number one, I think that let me let
me say it this way, because I thought a lot
about because people obviously said, oh, Mac Jones best game,
so on and so forth. Let's first talk about the
forty nine ers passing game and Kyle Shanahan and the system.

(08:05):
Every route in that system is choreographed with footwork and eyes. Okay,
so it's I'm not saying it's a mathematical equation, because
playing quarterback in the NFL is not easy like that.
But Kyle Shanahan does such a good job with how
we choreographs the passing game and the quarterback and the
steps and the timing and the rhythm. You know, for

(08:26):
the most part, with very few exceptions, quarterbacks play well
in a Kyle Shanahan system. And then I start to
think further, Mike, you know, think of it this way.
If you're going to talk about quarterbacks and backups in
the league. Let's say there's sixty four quarterbacks. Obviously, if
you're just going quarterbacks in their backups, probably the talent
gap between eighty percent of them is probably in most

(08:49):
cases not that extreme. You know, when you think about
arm talent, accuracy, processing, there's always some elite guys that
have a certain outstanding trade, whether it be high, higher
level processing, great arm talent, athletic ability. Then there are
a few unicorns that you know, maybe have all of it.
Those guys, there's very few of those guys. But you know,

(09:11):
what it's really about for quarterbacks, and maybe this comes
from me getting to know and spending a lot of
time with Bill Watshon, you know, years ago, and who
probably taught me more about the quarterback position than anyone.
More often than not, it's about the system that they
learn in, especially with regards to the specific scheme, the
play callers ability to help them play and process the

(09:33):
right way. I mean, that's what it's really about. So
when I look at Mac Jones, you know, to me,
he played well. Obviously I'm not going to sit here
and say didn't play well, but it looked so timing based,
it looked really nice. But that's the way most quarterbacks
play in the Kyle Shanahan system.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
Clean and fast. Yeah, Gate, and before you knew it,
it was a big lead, seventeen to seven and half
the rams Matthew Stafford, all these superlatives for him, but
for mac Jones, just to stay there for a second.
You're getting thirty touches out of this game. Christian McCaffrey
active as a receiver once again. I mentioned Kendrick Bourne
with his big, big game ten catches, eleven targets. Again. Oh,

(10:15):
back to mac Jones when folks got excited about him
back in twenty twenty one. That was his number one
target with eight hundred receiving yards five touchdowns for the Patriots.
So to be able to bring him in and say, hey,
you know this guy, go run some routes together is
a nice bonus. But then we get into everybody's favorite topic.
And I know this is a hot button because if

(10:37):
you search the interwebs, it's you and Colin talking about
Brock Purty. So what's the gap in the way they
run the rock?

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Perty is going to be the starter? See to me,
that's not really a conversation. I mean, you know, and
just based on what I said, you know, I'm not
surprised that mac Jones came in because stylistically they're very similar.
Purty a better athlete, but stylistically and how they play
within the context of a Kyle Shanahan offense. They're very similar,
and that's because of what the offense is. It's you know,

(11:07):
they're they're you know, people have always felt that that
saying that someone is a system quarterback is kind of
a negative, pejorative term, and it's not. Everybody's a system
quarterback because they're taught a system that they play with
and that's how coaches coach. And Kyle Shanahan's system is
so good. I mean, you can even go back to
when he went to Atlanta and Matt Ryan had the

(11:28):
best year of his career under Kyle Shanney and they
had one of the best offensive seasons in the history
of the game. In that year they went to the
super Bowl. So you know, it's that system is really
really efficient for a quarterback based on some of the
things I just said, because I know a lot about
that system and the way it's so choreographed. So there's
not going to be a quarterback controversy. That's that, you know,

(11:50):
to me, that's not even worth the conversation. You know,
Brock Purty is going to be their starting quarterback. I
don't know what the nature of his injuries are, whether
he needs to go on IR or whether he'll be
back you know, next Sunday. I guess we don't know that,
and they're not going to make an announcement unless they
put them on IR. But it just look, here's the
other part of this. What do we always say? You know,
what do commentators always say? If a team doesn't have

(12:12):
a good backup and they lose games because they don't
have a good backup, people say, oh, the organization, the
coaching staff, they're stupid. They don't have a good backup.
So now you have a good backup, and who runs
the system efficiently and automatically? People start with, well, who
should be the quarterback? It's not going to be a question.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Yeah, no, and it shouldn't be. I certainly it wasn't
trying to intimate that. It just becomes one of those
talking points coming out. And then to attribute more to
the Shanahan you know system as it's laid out and
the ability to teach it. The fact that you got
mac Jones on a two year, seven million dollars deal
is just brilliant. It also owes to I still need

(12:51):
the giant sage brush or whatever we can to exercise
the demons of that forty nine Ers training room, because
once again that's weird. It's head for them. So that's
a curiosity because on the other end of the country,
a team we've talked about quite often and with regard
to injury, and we'll do so again today is the
Baltimore Ravens. Sure it seemed to get away from that either.

(13:13):
So still i'd love a to cast as great eye there.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
I think lost in the game of course too. How
well Matthew Stafford's playing this year. You know, don't forget
the forty nine Ers scored two touchdowns early and then
didn't score another touchdown, which takes nothing away from mac Jones.
But Stafford, he is playing really good football this year.
I mean, you know, they gained four hundred and fifty
six yards of total offense and Stafford threw for almost

(13:39):
three hundred, almost four hundred yards. He is playing exceptionally well.
Now there's a guy that just in terms of throwing
a football, he's one of those unicorns. I meant, you know,
when you say a few unicorns, he's a unicorn when
it comes to throwing the football. There's very few guys
that throw a ball better than Matthew Stafford Well, one of.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Those guys that had the unfortunate victimhood of having a
Lion's logo on his helmet for years, so his acumen
and and ability kind of got dismissed, except that he
was your favorite quarterback's favorite quarterback for all those years.
Goes and wins in Los Angeles, like, hey, wait a minute,
there's this guy. Nine different players targeted in Week five

(14:21):
and the lost dramatic comeback. Look, the second half played
more with what we thought the Rams defense would do,
slow it down, but you're also changing how you're playing
with a lead to a degree. And for the Rams
moving the ball so effectively, and once again another notch
on the belt of the Charles Peanut Tillman should be
in the Hall of Fame with another peanut punch at

(14:42):
the one you want yard line, as Kyron Williams was
going in.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
You know, there's it's funny how games turn and it
changes our perception of how we see the way a
player played. If they score there with a minute to go,
and let's say the forty nine Ers lose Mac Jones,
game would have been exactly you know again, maybe he
could have marched down the field. They would have needed
a touchdown, not a field goal, but let's assume they
would have lost if that. If Williams doesn't fumble, would

(15:07):
we be talking about mac Jones differently? We'd probably say, hey,
it had a nice game, as opposed to people talking
about him the way they are. And the other thing is,
there was a play late in that game, and it's
probably a play that no one's even thinking about. Jones
got really lucky on third and eleven with just over
three minutes remaining in the fourth quarter and the game tied.
He threw it to Jake Tongus on kind of a

(15:29):
short seamball and the dropping d lineman Stewart got his
hands on the pass, and if Stewart didn't touch that,
it would have been an easy interception for Cam Curl
who was literally right there, and that would have probably
affected the outcome of the game as well. So, you know,
there's a lot of plays in games and it doesn't change. See.

(15:50):
That was sort of my initial point is that I
think coaches have to separate all you know, all that
from Hey, now, let's evaluate the players and let's deal
with them the way they played in the game. Yes,
you have to win there's no question. I mean, things
are obviously a lot different in Philadelphia than they are
in Tennessee. You have to evaluate the players and you

(16:10):
want to win the games even if you're not playing well.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Twenty six twenty three, your final the final play of
that one will be debated forever. As Sean McVay certainly
took yeah, took his uh you know, Liz lumps I
guess would be the way.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
To say, he admitted it and that was a bad call.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
The fact that you're running behind Pookin Nakula might have
been the most genius would be strategy ever if they'd
pulled that off. Pokin Nakula, who's what one sixty five,
one seventy soaken Way yeah, first down?

Speaker 2 (16:43):
No, No, Well, the thing is is, well, the coup
is big. But the point is they'd run that exact
same play from the same formation three or four times
in the game and got a first down every time.
So it's easy to say, oh, they shouldn't have run it. There. See,
there's a perfect example of when we have access to
the result, where all geniuses aren't we of course, right
then we're all super smart when we have access to
the result. Now, I give McVeigh a ton of credit.

(17:05):
Whether he believes exactly what he said, none of us know.
But you never throw your team or your players under
the bus. He's been coaching long enough to know that,
so he took full responsibility for it. And like I said,
it's easy now after the fact to say what a
horrible play call because it didn't work, But it worked
every other time they did it in the game.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
That's it. Just the question of his shooting the field goal.
Try playing for the act, you know, to the end, right,
taking the tie we'd already seen one. Maybe he didn't
want to wear that, but yeah, but like you say,
it's you know, the results are what they are. Right.
If the forty nine ers end up losing that game,

(17:44):
mac Jones probably would be lambasted for not getting it
done in the second half, right, I didn't finish, et cetera.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Correct, you know, it's exactly how it works. Is who
wins and who loses just changes our perception of how
individuals individual players play, even though the performance is still
exactly the same.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
Fuka listed with the full two twelve folks, I didn't.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah, he's a big dude, and he is as good
a run after catch receiver by the way, as there
is in the league. But you know, just a quick
point about that before we move on. I researched and
it was true in this week as well. Prior to
this week, Nikua had had fifty targets. Now, obviously I
watched the tape, so he has more than that now.
But do you know that only one time in all

(18:27):
his targets this year has he lined up as the
single receiver to whatever side of the field he's on.
He's always part of a receiver group, whether it's two
or three, and they use them in motion a ton.
So he's a terrific receiver, but he's not that true
sort of boundary X that all coaches want their single
receiver to the short side of the field, that you

(18:49):
just line up and say, hey, you can win one
on one against anybody. That's not how he's deployed. Which
doesn't mean he's not a great player, but it's interesting.
I think McVeigh understands what his strengths are and the
fact that he's not truly you know, he's not truly
a Justin Jefferson or Jamar Chase. He's great in a
different way.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
And It's beautiful that you have DeVante Adams on the
other side.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
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Greetings, Welcome back in it's Fox Football Sunday, Fox Sports
Radio Mike Carbon alongside Greg CoA sal Thanks for being
with us. Marianna Mark making a sound so pretty this
fine morning. As we get things going. You got an
F one race, you got some golf on the links,
you got Major League Baseball playoffs WNBA finals. We're getting
ready for the NHL to drop the puck. All of

(21:11):
these things swirling in week five of your National Football
League season as we get ready for the most of
a full slate, four teams on buys again. That's where
all your fantasy folks out there. You're Pittsburgh Steelers, Atlanta Falcons,
Chicago Bears, and Green Bay Packers all taken.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
A little zep there to get us going there, Mike
early on a Sunday morning. You know that never hurts.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
No, that's just stated as soon as you get going right, Oh,
of course, and you can get into it the live
live tracks, I mean, come on, wow live.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
I saw them live and they played for about three
and a half four hours. Getting your back when I
was a young man, Mike, that was back a long
time ago.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
Wow, you know what, it's all. It's all in your
mind though, because it brings you right back to that space, right.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
I still listen to them all the time, you know.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Yeah, I was just going back in. Like my daughters
and I we we took a day on Friday, a
rare off day during a football season for me. They
happen to have a thing where their their schedules, uh
converged for an off day, and we talked about yeah,
I'll go with you, and then we just talked about
concerts that we've been to and whatever. As we're standing
in line, you know, for the next Disney ride, like, hey,

(22:23):
remember we saw that? And then we're playing these games, right,
you play this game it's called you know, heads Up,
and you take your phone and someone's got it out
of their forehead and then you try to guess, you
know that what what people the clues they're giving you,
and a lot of it's music based the categories they
were taking. Uh. And then immediately it's like, you know,
you remember that song and now you're singing along, and

(22:43):
you get some other family starts singing along. The other
folks pull up their video opportunities to mock you. But
like all of that to say that, you know, it's
that communal experience and no question at the concerts is
what it's all about. Exactly likewise our sporting world, with
the NFL continuing the expansion of international games, we get

(23:05):
to see another one today, back to back weeks for
the Minnesota Vikings without Kelly on the front lines for
them this week as they take on well the Cleveland Browns,
the thirteenth rookie quarterback to start a game for them
since nineteen ninety nine. They are own twelve, but Dylan Gabriel,
you're the next man up. Miles Garrett already saying the

(23:27):
offense seems like it's his. What are we expecting today
from from against Flora's in this defense? How would you
attack it?

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Well, it's a very difficult defense to play against, regardless
of who the quarterback is because Flores is a master
of just lining people up at the line of scrimmage,
six seven players. You don't know who's coming, who's dropping.
He'll have a high blitz percentage, but he'll also have
a high percentage of rushing three. He shows you a
lot of different looks. One thing they don't do very
much of those play man coverage, so it's a lot

(23:57):
of zone coverage behind it. So they are a difficult
defense to play against. But the thing with Dylan Gabriel,
you know, Kevin Stefanski really liked him coming out of college,
and and I know a lot of people probably think
that's crazy, but coaches think in terms of scheme adaptability.
That's the way NFL coaches think. They think about Okay,

(24:17):
I have a scheme. This is what I believe in.
Coaches coach what they know by the way, they don't
coach what they don't know. They coach what they know,
and they coach what they feel comfortable with. And Kevin
Stefanski sees Dylan Gabriel when his offense works the way
he wants it to work, as a quarterback that can
run it. It's a lot of play action. It's a
lot of quick timing, quick rhythm throws, get the ball out,

(24:39):
and that's what Dylan Gabriel ultimately is. Now. I don't
know whether he's going to be good or bad. That's
not my point. I'm talking stylistically. This is how he
has to play the game if he's to have any
kind of success in the NFL, And in Kevin Stefanski's offense,
that's what he sees. So it's just a very difficult
opening game for him, opening defense, for him to have

(24:59):
to play against a.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Lot of young guys on that offense. Rolling up today,
Judkins in the backfield the last couple of weeks has
a quited himself looking pretty goodly right Yeah, screen Bay
and Detroit also as a receiver out of the backfield,
which is huge.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Look what they here's what they anticipated, you know, they
anticipated that they'd have a really solid run game. They
drafted Jenkins in the second round and Dylan Samson from
Tennessee and I think the fourth or fifth round. And
the anticipation was that Judkins would be the feature back
because he's the kind of back that you could give
it to eighteen to twenty times a game, and that
Samson would be the nice compliment. That's what they hope

(25:36):
their offense would look like. Now, obviously it hasn't quite
worked out that way yet, we'll see what happens going forward.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Now you add the speed, Sir Isaiah Bond, he steps
into a more prominent role with Tillman going to the
injured reserve again to solve things there. Yeah, a tough
loss for them in their receiving tam Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
And on the other side, it's a fascinating you know,
Carson Wentz has played well in two games, by the way,
and the one thing that's really stood out, Mike, and
these are the kinds of things I always do, you
know watching tape, is you know they eighteen of his
fifty three dropbacks last week against Pittsburgh came out of
empty formations. And that's clearly they're doing that because of
Carson Wentz. Because when McCarthy played up to the point

(26:17):
he got hurt. They only had one empty formation, So
clearly this is something where Kevin O'Connell and Carson Wentz
they feel comfortable they want him in empty sets. Now.
The number one thing, of course, when you play Cleveland
is they've got a really good d line and a
really good pass rush. And Wentz does have a tendency
to hold onto the ball. He's he's always been kind

(26:39):
of leary to throw check downs just to get the
ball out of his hand. So he's going to have
to do that in this game because otherwise you could
see a game because he does get sacked a good amount,
you could you know, you don't want to get sacked seven, eight,
nine times in this game. And Wentz has always shown
a little bit of a propensity for that.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
Thirty out of forty six last week three fifty two
and two, a good chunk coming on that that played
to Jordan Addison where fil said he must not have
done much cardio during his Peyton Wilson.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Peyton Wilson ran him down, and I know Wilson ran
a four four forty at the combine, but still, you know,
if you're Jordan Andison, you can't let that happen.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
We're we're watching that live going, how's he not walking
into the endside four for one fourteen in that one,
Jefferson ten for one, twenty six. Having his best friend
Addison back on the other side certainly helped, no question
about a ten receptions, eleven targets. But to your point,
he did absorb six sacks in that game for a

(27:39):
total of forty eight yards. You're giving up half a
football field. Odd.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yes, And the Steelers were very aggressive with pressure in
that game, and they sacked him four times when they
did rush five or more. So you know, again, that
gets back to my point. Carson Wentz has always had
a tendency to take a lot of sacks.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Expecting to see more of the same from that Cleveland front,
no question about it. Miles Garrett licking his chops. With
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(28:42):
go to one more team here, but before we trip
the light fantastic into a little bit of a break
when we look at the Baltimore Ravens in a world
of hurt literally and figuratively. Right now, it joked a bit,
and look it's not no, never joke about injuries in
their specificity, but as a whole of Wow, there's just

(29:04):
something a cloud hanging over that training room now, Lamar
Jackson the latest, Ronnie Stanley's out. Half your defense will
be missing. No Humphrey, no Roquan Smith. I'm met of
week eight, gone for the year. Yeah, So I mean
you go all the way through. It is an absolute
mash unit. Now Cooper Rush has to try to figure
out how to navigate forward, and Derrick Henry has not

(29:26):
been the same since week one. Right, big explosives there
run game has been bogged down for several weeks, trying
to find the light at the end of the tunnel
for him here. Greg, Yeah, and I.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
Mean you would think, because obviously the offense has to
look different for obvious reasons, that Derrick Henry would need
to be the foundation, and I think they'll go that
route and try to lean on him. But defensively, the
other thing is when you're playing with the backup quarterback
and Cooper Rush has had success in the league. Again,
it's not they're not putting out a guy that's never played,

(29:58):
but still you'd like to be able to lean somewhat
on your defense, Mike, and they've their defense. The injuries
have killed them. They've been totally unable to rush the
quarterback this year. I don't have the number right in
front of me, but I think they have four sacks
and four games they've not really exerted any pressure on
opposing quarterbacks. Now they're heard on the back end. Rokwan

(30:20):
Smith is out. It's just it they can't rely on
their defense to be kind of a guiding force here
to keep games close. So it'll be interesting. I mean,
you know, this is a big game. The loser of
this game is going to be one and four, and
you know, I think that would surprise a lot of
people going into the season that Houston or Baltimore would

(30:41):
be one and four after five weeks. But this is
really a big game for both teams.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Yeah, I didn't have grand hopes coming in for Houston.
For overall, the offensive line, which wasn't good last year,
lost a couple more parts and we're still trying to
figure out. I mean, what do you see on tape
with CJS, because that's one of the big talk giving points.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Yeah, I know, And this almost goes back to our
first conversation about the Kyle Shanahan system because his rookie
year in the league was Bobby Slowick was the offensive coordinator.
Of course they fired him, you know, midway through the
second year, but Slowick came from the Shanahan school. Okay,
and again that system really helps quarterbacks. Now they're asking

(31:24):
him to run. I think it's kind of a mix
of a number of things, and he looks very uncomfortable.
He looks stiff in the pocket. He doesn't look like
he's seeing it as clearly. Now again you can always
say that, hey, the offensive line isn't as good. They're
playing with young receivers. Last year, Nico Collins missed. I
don't know, what's seven eight weeks. They don't have a

(31:46):
you know, Joe Mixon is out there. They're hoping what
he Marx, who looked very good last week against Tennessee,
can sort of become a little bit more of a
feature guy because you know, Nick Chubb unfortunately, we don't
know what he is at this point in his career
due to the injuries. Of course, not due to to
you know, he was a great, great runner before that
that really tragic injury. But Stroud just doesn't look like

(32:09):
a comfortable player right now. And you know, it's just
again it's it's so hard for me to know exactly
what they're asking him to do. It seems like they're
asking him to do a lot more before the snap
of the ball. You know. One of the things about
the Kyle Shanahan offense is the quarterback does not control
or or call the protections. Uh and and the center does.

(32:30):
And yeah, can the quarterback override it at times if
he sees something, yes he can, But for the most part,
they don't deal with that. So I think they're trying
to give Stroud more on his plate, and it just
it's it's he's uncomfortable, you know. And he's still a
beautiful thrower of the football, but right now he just
doesn't seem like things are it's just not right for

(32:51):
him right now.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
See if they get a little bit of balance in
the four in the in the force, says, I try
to go full Star Wars on you there with Woody
Mark's having a great game last week, maybe a little
more balance and operation and maybe just the right opponent
at the right time with the reeling Ravens defense. The
curiosity for for Baltimore as well. They've had Keaton Mitchell

(33:14):
as a healthy scratch for the last couple of weeks,
wondering if he.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
I think he's going to be ready to go this week. Yeah,
I think I think. I read he's going to go
this week. So and he's got a ton of juice, so,
you know, because right now with obviously with Cooper Rush,
they don't have Lamar's ability to create explosive plays with
his legs, so now they're looking for other ways to
create explosive plays. And we know for sure that Mitchell
can run.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
Yeah. One of the rumor rumor mill kind of things
was we've got a month until the trade deadline as
to whether Keaton Mitchell was one of those guys being
held out for good as a guy to be dealt
because we see a number of contenders who are are
deficient in the running back room. So perhaps that's in
the offing the break glass in case of emergency down

(33:58):
the line, now the opponent. Later on, we got a
Monday night football game that is interesting in a million ways.
One team was left for dead and there's a stat
line that we have to read that might be the
worst stat line on paper, but the best thing you
can actually ask for. What are we talking about? We'll
tell you next. He's great co sale on Mike Carbon

(34:19):
It's Fox Football Sunday here on Fox Sports Radio. Hey,
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Greg Cosel with you counting down. We got about forty
five minutes to kickoff Minnesota and Cleveland. Get those fantasy
lineups changed as you will, as you need to remembering

(34:40):
that we've got Dylan Gabriel making his first start. We'll
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(35:00):
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Sports Radio. So, Greg, I want to go back to
a game. We talk about the raven side of things.
So sure they're part of this equation. But the greatest
stat line from last week four carries five yards?

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Who was it?

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Let's hear it up on the football quickly? Is Patrick
Mahomes under center?

Speaker 2 (35:27):
Worthy's in the backfield. They're going to roll to the
right side, and I'm a home staff for the kids.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
Touchdown Kansas City Marquise Brown Hollywood goes all the way
across the formation on fourth and one for a fifteen
yard touchdown pass. Mahomes has four GD passes into the
land of the sweet Nectar.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
There's the the.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Sweet nectar. I got it great.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
Try to work that into your conversations later undergrad a
Cheez Radio network on the call thirty seven twenty year Final,
a blowout scenario for the Chiefs, who talked about the
Ravens defense and the walking wounded there. But I love
the four carries five yards because before that game last week,
you and I were talking about Patrick Mahomes and how
much the rushing told was concerning. Well, he didn't need

(36:17):
to hear four touchdown passes Hollywood Brown. But the return
of Xavier Worthy perhaps opening things up is at the
start of a get right with Jacksonville on the slate
for Monday night.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
Well, the way I'd answer that is what if we
said about the Chiefs, oh, the last couple of years.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Don't write them off, and if you're gonna kill him,
make sure they're dead.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
That they've also that they've had one of the slowest
receiving corps in the league. Right, That's what we've said
the last couple of years. All of a sudden, now
they may have the fastest because now that Worthy's back,
Taekwon Thornton can run. I remember doing his tape coming
out a baler. He was a below four to four.
Hollywood Brown can still run all of a sudden, they've

(36:58):
got three guys that can run, and they're starting to
push the ball down the field. Again, that's what you
see on tape. They're starting to throw the ball down
the field. And that's a big deal because it doesn't
necessarily matter how many are complete. It just changes the
way defenses have to play. So, all of a sudden,
they've got a lot of speed at the wide receiver position.

(37:20):
We'll see if that has an impact too on Travis Kelcey,
because now all of a sudden, maybe the middle of
the field opens up a little more.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
Yeah. Once Rashie Rice returned from his suspension in two
more weeks, that suddenly you can deploy and mix and
match quite a bit. So perhaps more from the run
game that isn't on Patrick Mahomes Legs as well.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Age Shark Smith is another name to keep in mind,
by the way, Mike Grashard Smith. He's a seventh round
rookie out of SMU who initially went to college as
a wide receiver I think at the University of Miami,
but then at SMU they made him a running back
and last year he gained over fourteen hundred yards. He's
a great receiver. For he's another guy that runs under
four to four, and you're going to see more of

(38:04):
him as the season progresses. So now all of a
sudden you're dealing with the team that has track speed,
whereas for the last couple of years they were slow.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
You're just curious whenever whenever I start seeing Matt n
Aggie's name show up in articles and stuff. But the
Bears fan and me has my flashback moments, some great
highs and some other But I mean that's the life
of a Bears fan. There's you know, you get those
moments and they're fleeting, but you go through. But yeah, certainly,
Bishard Smith a guy I tried to put him on

(38:34):
the radar before the season, just saying, hey, perhaps we're
finally done with some of the experiments and the histories
of some of these other running backs because we've that
we've seen in Chief's Kingdom in the past. But yeah,
perhaps those days are ahead. So there's your Greg Cosel.
He gave you a fantasy in Ninja right here at

(38:55):
the end of this hour. But for Patrick Mahomes and
for Travis Kelsey right a lot being hey, I haven't
had a chance to listen to it in full yet
Taylor Swift's new albums out, so they at least have
that behind them now, Greg and they can move forward.
But opening up the middle of the field where he
doesn't have to, you know, fight for every every year
certainly should help. And working him scraping across defenses, and

(39:18):
Patrick Mahomes will be licking his.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Chops, no question. We'll see how it goes. But that
speed is a big deal.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Yeah. No, I was making my bad Halloween analogies. I mean,
since we're into uh, you know, the the month of
October and the decorations.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
And they're all up already. I know, people get started
early with the decorations, you know.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
Yeah, well, I mean look because you're gonna be buying
a Christmas tree here in about three weeks, so you know,
it's an accelerated timeline.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
It always is, it always is, right.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
But yeah, so the idea of you know, the Chiefs
were dead, I was told at one in three. It's like, yeah,
they're like all of the the horror movie Villa. You
got to make sure because otherwise, if there's money in it,
there's a sequel. And for the Chiefs, it looks like
we're sequelizing once again, now a team looking for a sequel.
This is where we'll start our next next hour. Because

(40:13):
winning usually cures everything, Greg, but in Philadelphia, the seeds
of malcontent discuss the Yeah, so we will get deeply
into the wide receiving core all sorts of uh stuff
floating around in the media. We got Bible Versus a
reading club that's starting once again at Greg Cosel where

(40:36):
you find them on Twitter, find me over at swollen Down.
We'll start our two with the Eagles. Next. You're listening
to Fox Sports Radio. Greetings, Welcome man Hour two Fox
Football Sunday half hour for kickoff Cleveland and Minnesota. The
pregame pageants Tree going on Dylan Gabriel's first start. Carson

(40:59):
Wentz on the other side, over under for that one,
sitting at a robust thirty six. It's gonna be a
field goal kicking contest, Greg Cosel, or at least that's
what they're telling me.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
Well, I think that Minnesota's playing with three new offensive
line starters, and I think that's not a good recipe
when you're playing the Vikings.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
No, maybe that's just it.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
I mean, excuse me. I think it's the other way around,
playing the Vikings are playing with three new starters, and
that's not a good recipe against the Browns.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
Yeah, right, Ryan Kelly now headed to the eye off. Yeah,
recovery for another concussion.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
That's two in a three weeks, and it's too many
for him in his career unfortunately.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
Yeah, those are piling up. And it's certainly a guy
that we we remember him coming out and what a
force he was, you know, and we know what happens
to offensive lines whenever centers get hurt. We've seen that
through the ess of how things can crumble. I go
back to those Dallas squads when when Frederick had to
retire and how they had to scrambled to try to

(41:57):
cobble together those five guys uh thereafter. So, yeah, it's
tough stuff for mister Kelly. Wish him well and for
that offensive line, well, just a lot of Hey figure
out where Miles Garrett is fast at Greg Cozo, where
you find it in a Twitter verse, find me over
at Swollen Dome. We alluded to it. At the end

(42:17):
of last hour. We got Denver and we got Philadelphia.
Ye coming up a little later on today another one
where we're expecting the Denver defense to try to make
some Hey Patrick, certain he and AJ Brown will lock
up a bit here, But for AJ Brown and for
DeVante Smith, the seeds of malcontentedness not seeing the ball

(42:39):
with regularity or consistency to be able to be able
to make plays, and that spills out no matter how
many normally winning cures, all at some point guys raise
their hand. And we're seeing a lot of that early
going here in Philadelphia.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
Yeah, well, through four games, Jalen Hurts is averaging one
hundred and thirty eight passing yards per game. Only the
Titans average fewer passing yards. And for those who want
to say, well, none of this matters because they're four
and oh, then they don't understand how coaches work and
what goes on in an NFL building, There is no
way that they are saying in that building that hey,

(43:15):
we're good because we're four and oh, that everything is fine.
I mean, in the second half last week, Hurtz was
o for eight for no yards. Obviously it's their offense overall,
by the way, is not very good. Barkley has the
most first down carries of any back in the league.
Because they are a running football team. He has fifty

(43:36):
first down carries, he's averaging three yards per rush. That
won't get it done either. I think the thing that's
not talked about and the tape shows it, Mike, And
that's what I work on, is the tape. Their old line,
which has been one of the absolute best for two
three four years, has not played particularly well this year.
And that's just the reality of the tape. And as

(43:58):
they say, the eye in the sky doesn't so right now.
Their offense is just not very good, and the receivers
are unhappy because their pass game. You know, one thing
about the pass game and one thing about Jalen Hurts.
He throws the ball outside the numbers exceptionally well, that's
what he does at a higher level. And he throws

(44:18):
the deep ball exceptionally well. But he doesn't throw the
ball between the numbers well, and in fact, they don't
ask him to because they know that that's not his strength.
And in fact, they've got the fewest throws between the
numbers of any team in the NFL through the first
four weeks of the season. That's just not how they
execute the pass game, and so receivers tend to get

(44:40):
a little upset by that because they don't get as
many targets.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
Yeah, we're looking at aj Brown through four weeks, fourteen
receptions on twenty eight targets, averaging ten point eight per reception.
Look at your Bonte Smith just twenty targets to this point.
To your point, you've got nearly as many targets for
Saquon Barkley out of the backfield. That three point one
yards per carry average certainly not sustaining over them, no,

(45:07):
because at least if that were robust, you'd say, hey,
the run game, they're just road grading. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
The two things though, that do stand out, and it's
one reason they are four and oh is they don't
turn the ball over and they've gotten to the red
zone eleven times. That's not an exceptionally high number through
four games relative to the rest of the league, but
they've scored eleven touchdowns and eleven trips into the red zone.

(45:34):
So when they do get into the red zone, they're
scoring touchdowns, and obviously that's a big time positive. But
as I said, there's no question in their building that
they think everything is fine just because they're four.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
And oh yeah, currently tied for fourth in terms of
turnover differential at plus four as we enter today's game,
Greg to that point with Jalen Hurts just six yards
per pass attempt.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
Yes, and he's got the few was passing first downs
of any quarterback in the league. So their past game
is going to have to improve. Now. Obviously they're a
winning football team. They're Super Bowl champions, They've won a
lot of games over the last number of years. It's always,
you know, even how it works when a team wins,
it's always easy to say, oh, they win, you know,
and they do win. I mean that's an inarcurable point.

(46:21):
But much needs to be fixed here.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
Yeah, it's always the curiosity, right with Yeah, in our
larger media space, when teams win, it's a well, there's
no problems like no, no, no, there's there's still warts. Right,
you can win ugly. The nineteen eighty three White Sox
before losing in the Alcs to the Orioles. That was
the mantra. Just a lot of weird come from behind

(46:46):
wins in improbable fashion. Hell, that was the story of
the Bears season when Lovey Smith got him to the
Super Bowl. A lot of balls bouncing the right way
on defense and Devin Hester seemed to have a ring
around him to keep it.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
I mean blocking. Look, I think most people would probably
argue that blocking kicks is not really a strategy for winning,
you know, over the course of a season. It's great
when you can do it, but it's not really a strategy.
So you know, we'll see. I mean, look, it's it's
only four games. There's thirteen more to go, so we'll
see how it plays out. But right now, they're not

(47:21):
a very good offensive football team.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
And whenever we have players give us that moment of honesty,
folks get mass. But when they give you platitudes, you
get mad, Like what do you want?

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Right?

Speaker 1 (47:30):
He came around showing his frustration. Yeah, some of it
might be over the top posting to social media. You
may not like it. They're human and it's an emotional game.
So I would want my number one wide receiver to
be raising his hands saying, yeah, I want the ball more.
I want to figure this out. In Philadelphia, if you

(47:50):
don't give an honest answer, I guess what you're gonna
get called to the carpet for that too.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
So well, you know it's it's the the old Mike
Schmidt Lions. I'm sure you recall, which has been brought
back recently. It's you know you can. You can experience
the thrill of winning at night and then the agony
of reading about it the next day.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
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(48:51):
as we look at Week five, so many great matchups
on the board, some really intriguing ones. I want to
go to Tampa and Seattle. Sure, I've got Sam Donald
on one side, Baker Mayfield trying to make Hey this
week without Bucky Irving, How much does his absence change
their offense.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Well, he's the big playback. He can give you the
explosive run plays. So they'll end up with Rshad White,
who's a very good player, but a different kind of runner,
a more physical, bigger back, a very good receiver, by
the way, and I'm sure Sean Tucker will get meaningful snaps.
He's played for them. He's got a little more juice.
So we'll see how they do that.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
Ron last year in a couple of spots, Yes.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
He did, he did. Yes, So but you know Seattle,
you know, obviously you're on the West coast. I'm not,
but so on the East coast, Seattle doesn't get talked
about a lot. But Seattle is a very good football
team and Donald's playing really well. You know, they brought
him in. They have Clint Kubiak as their offensive coordinator.
And Kubiak is sort of from the the you know,

(49:56):
I guess was his dad? Was that his dad, Gary Kubiak?
But the point is yeah, and then the Shanahan school.
It's sort of from that same coaching tree that believes
in the quarterback under center, run action, play action, push
the ball down the field. Donald has been phenomenal throwing
the ball down the field. This year, you know, we've

(50:16):
reached the point in this league where not a lot
of quarterbacks really throw it down the field. You know,
I'm even talking about ten yards from the line of scrimmage,
but Donald on passes thrown in the air more than
ten yards from the line of scrimmage, he is twenty
seven for thirty six for five hundred and sixty three yards,
So that's more than twenty yards per completion. And he

(50:40):
did that a year ago in Minnesota, the same thing.
He was outstanding throwing the ball down the field. And
that's a significant part of the way they play offense
under Klint Kubiak, and they need a little more from
their run game. But they're a good offense, and defensively,
I think they're going to be missing some guy today,
but this defense is very, very good.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
Yeah, as we look at they're flying around and certainly
McDonald coming into last year, a lot of questions coming
into the year, and they get the double digit win total.
Gino Smith heads off to Las Vegas, so Sam Donald
gets the big deal again. One further removed from Jets
gets better. There's some kind of mathematical formula that we

(51:26):
can apply to that somewhere there. But what intrigued me
last week and we'll see if he has a bigger
role as well, is a royal hit for that thirty
two yard completion and wondering what the plans are and
how much of a help he'll be for Jackson Smith
and Jigba and Cooper Cupp. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
Well, one of the things about the Seahawks this year,
which is the league's trending a little bit in this direction,
but Seattle is kind of at the forefront of it.
They are playing at a base personnel, meaning multiple tight
ends a very high percentage of the time. So last
week only thirty one of their offensive snaps had three
wide receivers. So they had three tight ends last week

(52:05):
that had more than twenty five snaps. Mike that's unheard
of in the NFL. A J. Barner had fifty seven.
Now he's a good player. Royo had thirty six, the
most he's played this year as a rookie, and Sawbert
had twenty six. So they are playing with multiple tight ends.
That has sort of been their foundation through the first
four games of the season. And Arroyo, as you know,

(52:25):
I mean He's got a lot of juice to him.
It would not surprise me if he continues to be
a meaningful part of what they want to get done
in the past.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
Game, become one of those bigger targets in the red zone,
open things up there for Darnold, curious to see the extension,
and for tamp obviously getting god Win back. Still missing
Mike Evans. We've talked about Himika a Buka and what
he's been to this offense thus far. But the Baker
Mayfield love fest in this phase of his career certainly warranted.

(52:56):
He has been the king of late game. You see
three and one right now, completing just fIF his passes.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
Though. Yeah, he's I mean, he's turned into a very
solid NFL quarterback. He's always thrown the ball really well.
You know, the way he's thrown the ball. He's always
been highly respected by other NFL quarterbacks. He throws the
ball really, really well. There's a competitiveness to him. Obviously,
he's been working. You know, he'll work without Evans for

(53:25):
a meaningful amount of time here because it's a hamstring
a book. Has really been the guy, and you know,
missing Irving I think is a big deal for them.
You know, we'll see. Maybe they'll go more two tight ends.
Last week against Philly, surprisingly to me, obviously not to
them because they chose to do it, but they really
didn't play much with two tight ends on the field.

(53:45):
And they have you know, obviously Kate Atten's a nice
player and Payne Durham is their second tight end. We'll
see what they do this week. They're playing against a
very good defense. They're on the road. You know, I
think this defense will be hard to drop back for
five times. I think you're going to need some sense
of balance in this game. It'll be too hard for

(54:05):
that old line. That's the issue. It's not just Baker,
it's the old line.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
Yeah, and a more limited approach. We talk about Bucky
Irving being the workhorse averaging just three point three yards
per carry on a smaller sample size about a third
the carries, or Shot White averaging about four point seven.
For all those Buccaneers fans just hoping that he left
all those ball security issues in years past as he
gets a higher role. But also a guy that to

(54:31):
this point eight receptions. Bucky Irving was actually the leading
reception man for the Bucks through the first four weeks
of the season, some big explosive and we always remember
that one possession what was at five catches as they
had that big comeback on Monday Night Football. All of
that say, that's one of the games of the day.

(54:52):
As we roll up on week five of your National
Football League, now we'll look for an encore performance in
a big spot. This is where Brianna's team, the Saints,
might be able to make some Hey what am I
talking about? We'll make it all make sense as we continue.
He's great co sale on Mike carbon This is Fox
Football Sunday on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 5 (55:11):
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(55:33):
breathe a second, We nod our heads.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
Mike Harmon, Greg Cosell with you here. It is Fox
Football Sunday, Fox Sports Radio. Final couple minutes. Get those
fantasy lineups changed up. If you have any of the
Vikings or Browns that you want in your lineup, or
if you've made the last minute decision to say no,
I'm not touching the London game, well you got to
toggle them out. Now. Good time is ticking away. We

(56:01):
got a full slate later on. But reminder, we do
have four teams on buys, the Steelers, the Bears, my Bears.
So I breathe easy today, the Packers and the Falcons
as we roll forward. But one of the games that's
got a lot of eyes. After a scintillating debut, the
New York Football Giants will head to the Big easy

(56:23):
and maybe it's time for the Saints. But let's hear
a little Jackson dart if we might, what are we
gonna get? What are we gonna get? Let's say scataboo
the back dark design, run uptimil we go to.

Speaker 7 (56:35):
The tank of the fun clicks down Giants.

Speaker 4 (56:37):
Jackson did about a cornerback drop from fifteen yards out
at his first start, just the.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
Giants the League.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
There you go, Giants Radio Network on the call. I
had to play the run, Greg because we didn't have
a lot of passes to years from here.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
No, no, no, but you know what, I kind of
like camp Scataboo when I evaluate him coming out. He's
one of those guys that a lot of people don't
look at and go, well, there's a feature back. But
you know, feature backs come in different ways in this league.
I mean, look at someone like Kyrine Williams, who no
one thought could do what he has done with the
Rams when he came out of Notre Dame. So you know,

(57:15):
every back doesn't have to be special. We get caught
up in well, he can't be a good back unless
he's special. You know, We'll see how that plays out.
But getting back to Dart, you know they I thought
Brian Dable did absolutely the right thing with him in
that game. They used his legs a ton, They didn't
really ask him to throw it a lot. The question
going forward, and it's his first start, so this is

(57:35):
all we have is his first start. These are what
I'm about to say. Is not a comment on his
whole career or what might happen this week, you know, obviously,
but in this game, which I expected by the way,
he was not comfortable in the pocket, too much focus
on the pass rush, too much unnecessary movement. He's going
to have to become more disciplined in the pocket. And
the thought when I finished watching him was how important

(57:57):
will his legs be as part of his game? You know,
because he does have movement ability and he can run.
He's not explosive in that sense, but it is a
meaningful part of his game, and they deployed it quite
a bit, and it was a smart thing to do.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
Yeah, my man's got to learn to let Scatibo take
the pinball bounces though, Yeah, you're not for long. I mean, look,
I equated Cam to the Juggernaut character in the Marvel
Cinematic universe, a guy who wears a metal helmet and
runs through walls.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
Well, that's the way he ran in college too. By
the way, he's kind of that determined, downhill urgent, competitive runner,
and you know what, he's a sustainer. He may not
give you a lot of forty yard runs, but you
know what, you don't necessarily need that. And by the way,
he's a very good receiver, and he's a good blocker
because he cares about it.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
Well, that's been the beauty of it, right, and whatever
you can highlight the blocking thing. We used to try
to do that with wide receivers. It's one of the
things that made hinz Ward so great. Brandon Marshall, Yeah,
they piled up some stats in receptions and receiving yards,
but if there was a category to add all those
extras for yards gained by teammates based on what they

(59:07):
were doing, certainly a win and scat them of being
a big part of the receiving game. Think about that
guy coming at you downhill with a head of steam
off a screen pass. That's that's not good. They got
a lot of business decisions being made by corners.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
And I think Mike he can be the kind of
guy that you can give the ball to eighteen to
twenty times a game. I think he can be that guy. Obviously,
we'll see. He's a very physical runner. He's a competitive runner,
he's a contact runner. So we'll see. I mean, I
don't want to take one game and say, oh, this
was what you know he is. But but you know,
when I finished watching his tape in college at Arizona State,

(59:44):
I felt really good about him. I just thought he
was a good football player.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
Good spot youths being served. We see this in a
number of squads, Like we talked about with Cleveland, the
number of rookies that'll play significant snaps for them later on. Today,
let's go on the other side of that that equation though,
I mean, we don't talk a lot about the Saints.
They're well, they're not good, but they've got a couple
of pieces, and thus far, I think Spencer Rattler's acquitted

(01:00:11):
himself a little better than perhaps the dismissiveness and derisiveness
that comes from it, completing two thirds of his passes,
five tds against just one pick. You're still looking at
at Kamara as is number one in all ways, shapes
and formed and trying to get Chris Olave involved. But
what do you see from Rattler. Is he a guy

(01:00:31):
that becomes, you know, just the bridge to whatever they
can do next year, or is he a guy that
has some sustainability?

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
And that's a hard question to answer. They were probably
more competitive than people thought last week in Buffalo. Rattler,
for the most part, he's has not been the problem.
You know, they have four number one draft picks on
their offensive line, so you know it should be a
good group as the season progresses. The shame for Rattlers
He's missed two touch downs in each of the last

(01:01:01):
two weeks. I believe that were just clean, clear throws
and he just did not throw an accurate ball. He
missed one last week against Buffalo to Cooks. He threw
it way too low. Cooks ran a great route and
was wide open. You know, those are just the throws
you have to make. But he is a good thrower overall.
We'll see. I mean, obviously it's not a good football

(01:01:22):
team from top to bottom, so it's going to be
a tough deal. And for young quarterbacks and those kinds
of situations, you know, the negative has become magnified because
they can't compensate for those plays. That's the problem. So
you know, I think what he's going to have to
get better at, which does not surprise me, is I
think he's just going to have to get better at

(01:01:43):
where he takes his eyes based on the coverage. Sometimes
I don't feel like he sees it the right way.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
Yeah, they don't have the margins for them, No, they
do not. That's the big thing for them as we
go forward. But a spot here, we talked about it
a bunch. Dan byer Ian Roddy and I on our
I Watch a Flex podcast probably gave a lot more
to that game than others talking about the potential spots
in fantasy play. So you can check that out wherever
you get your podcasts, the iHeartRadio Network of course. As always,

(01:02:12):
Now as we continue, we're getting ready for kickoff from London,
but still plenty of more, plenty more games to get into.
The goods, the bads, the highs and lows will do
that momentarily, but first let's send it over to the
news desk for the first time today, ready to give
you some of the early injury updates. And just I
mean greatness exudes through the microphone. It's our guy, Isaac Lowencron.

(01:02:34):
What's going on? I love well, I thank you. Good
morning Mike and Greg, and we start with some injury news.

Speaker 7 (01:02:39):
The Detroit Lions this morning downgrading left tackle Taylor Decker
to doubtful for their game at Cincinnati today due to
a shoulder injury. It is two point thirty in the
afternoon in London and moments from now it'll be kickoff
between the one and three Cleveland Browns and the two
and two Minnesota Vikings.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
This morning.

Speaker 7 (01:02:57):
Meanwhile, the Marion County, Indiana Prosecutor's office officially charged former
NFL quarterback and current Fox Sports analyst Mark Sanchez with
battery resulting in injury, public intoxication, and unlawful entry of
a motor vehicle for his alleged role in an altercation
early Saturday morning in Indianapolis. All the Chargers are misdemeanors.

(01:03:20):
Marion County Prosecutor Ryan Meres said in a statement, quote
what began as a disagreement between a thirty eight year
old former professional athlete and a sixty nine year old
man should not have escalated into violence or left anyone
seriously injured.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
Unquote. In Game one of the American League.

Speaker 7 (01:03:38):
Division Series on Saturday night, the Detroit Tigers won at
Seattle in eleven innings, three to two on an RBI
single by Zach McKinstry in the top of the eleventh inning.
And in college football on Saturday night, third ranked Miami
won at number eighteen Florida State twenty eight to twenty two.
Hurricane quarterback Carson Beck twenty of twenty seven two hundred
forty yards for a touchdown pass.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
There's no interceptions. Mike and Greg, back to you, thanks
so much. Ilo at Isaac Low and Crown where you
find him there, catch him on the activity later on
today's the Voice of Angels City FC as well with
your Los Angeles Chargers a bit as well. So all
good things is well. The Chargers welcome the Commanders and

(01:04:21):
Jayden Daniels back to the mix later on today, Greg
for the Chargers, still stinging perhaps a little bit from
that loss to the Giants a week ago, but now
also go without Joe Alt, who has to go on
the shelf after already losing Rashaun Slater.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
Yeah, and I think that's going to have to necessitate
a change in the way they play offense, Mike. They've
been throwing the ball an awful lot and now with
obviously Slaters hasn't played at all this season, but Alt
has played well at left tackle, and now he'll be
out for a bit, so they're going to be essentially
playing with two backup tackles. And surprisingly, this team has
been throwing the ball forty plus times on average the

(01:05:00):
first four weeks Amari and Hampton has started to look
like a nice young back, and he's a sustaining style
of back, So I would expect, because they do have
a good defense, I would suspect that they would really
lean more on the run game, try to get Hampton,
who's a very good grinder. He does have some big playability,
but he's much more of a physical, tough, grinding runner.

(01:05:23):
I would think they would go that route now that
they're missing both their tackles.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
Had those twenty five touches in the win over Denver
a couple of weeks ago. Last week against the Giants
a total of seventeen. I think the thing that stands
out for me, Greg is that he gives them what
they thought, maybe the outside world thought they may have
lost with Naji Harris going down to injury was the
ability to throw out of the backfield, and back to

(01:05:50):
back weeks eleven catches for him in over ninety five yards.
So a guy who's becoming a good weapon for Justin
Herbert as a safety valve as well.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
And the bottom line is, look, they signed Nijie Harris,
but they drafted Hampton in the first round, so they knew,
quite frankly what everybody knows if you just watched Tate
Mike that Najie Harris is not good enough to be
a number one back. So obviously it's unfortunate that he's
out for the season now with the Achilles, but Hampton
was going to be the number one back anyway because

(01:06:21):
he's simply better than Nagie Harris.

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
Yeah, once he figured out the a little bit of
the two step blocking scheme that we always talk about
with the rookie running backs who haven't had to do
that in college.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
Yeah, and he's just a better back, so he'll he'll
be the guy now for sure. Hopefully he can stay healthy.
He's a very physical runner. But yeah, that's they're gonna
have to be a little different on offense right now.

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
Yeah, curiosity, the return to Keenan Allen certainly offering some value.
I'm sorry to you, Lad McConkie fantasy owners. You're you're
sad and sullied by the lack of massive targets and
opportunity for him. From the Washington side of things with
Daniels return, waiting to see what they can do against

(01:07:05):
this offense. But you know, Marcus Mariota had a few
moments these last couple of weeks, certainly, but for Jade
and Daniels, a lot of people expecting a big encore
to his rookie season. Through two games he had, you know,
just a sixty percent completion rate, three touchdowns, clean sheet
on the interception side of things. But you know, curious

(01:07:28):
coming off an injury against an aggressive pass front, and.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
I think there's a team that has to figure out
how to run the ball a little bit because Jadeen
Daniels can't be your runner. I mean probably instinct he
will run at times because that's who he is, but
they're going to have to figure out what their run
game can really look like. You know, they've got Crosskey Merritt,
They've got Chris Rodriguez who's kind of a grinder. They're
going to have to develop some kind of meaningful, sustaining

(01:07:56):
run game. You know, we'll see they're offens. You know,
obviously Mariota came in, didn't do a bad job. That's
what you want your backup to do to be able
to still run your offense. Obviously, they lost last week,
but it wasn't because Mariota played poorly. So they're gonna
have to figure that out. They're playing against a very
good you know, the Chargers defenses and talked about a lot.

(01:08:16):
Jesse Mintor's done a really really good job. Obviously, everybody
focuses on Herbert and the offense, but Mintor's done a
really good job there. He's very good with his pressure schemes.
They're they're multiple, they're different, they're hard to figure out,
and they've got some really good players. Everyone knows Derwin James,
but Diane Henley, the linebacker number zero. He is, in

(01:08:39):
my view, one of the best three down linebackers in
the league, and I'm sure not a lot of people
know about him.

Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
Well, we'll continue to evangelize. I will post with his
photo and make sure that's saying. Greg Cosell sent you
at Greg co Sales where you find him in the
Twitter's find me over at Swollen Dome. Let's get one
more game in before we get ready for our final
final segment. New England Buffalo Buffalo have you favorite, But
we're seeing growth from Drake May and that New England

(01:09:07):
offense thus far. Buffalo certainly tested. We mentioned it before
with what New Orleans throwing haymakers at him a week ago,
but first year coach with Rabel dare on starting to
to find at least a little something coalescing in that
passing game.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
Yeah, and also they'd love to be able to run
the ball, which they haven't done in Buffalo. Has really
struggled to stop the run through four weeks. But May
has been very good in two critical areas Mike that
are hard for young players, particularly with a brand new
coaching staff. He's been very good on third down and
he's been very good on press against pressure. But one
thing that Sean McDermott does extremely well. When I talk

(01:09:47):
to offensive coaches around the league, they always bring this
up about Seawan is he's very good at changing the
picture pre snap to post snap. And I'm not saying
May will or won't struggle with it. You I don't know,
but that's always tougher for young quarterbacks because they don't
have a lot of experience with that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
Bill's currently tied for six plus three in the turnover
differential thus far. It's funny, though, they're kind of, at
least to this point of the season, Greg a little
bit of the other side of the coin of what
we were talking about with the Eagles in terms of
trying to find your identity right. You're winning games, but
there's still certainly plenty of coachable moments.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
Well they're running, you know, because of Josh Allen, who's
obviously capable of special any time at any moment. They're
actually a running football team, Mike. I mean they run
the ball. That's how they stabilize their offense. And people
probably don't think about that because of Josh Allen, but
they're a running football team. Allen does not drop back
a lot unless the game demands, like Week one when

(01:10:45):
they had to come back against Baltimore. But for the
most part, the foundation of what they do with their
offense is running the football, and they play a lot
with multiple tight ends. They play with the fallback. They
don't just say Josh Gobi superman. He can be when necessary,
but that's not how they structure their offense at all.

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
Certainly, we'd rather have it be the break glass in
case of emergency. James Cook right now after getting paid,
because you know we always have those fallacies in the media. Well,
once a guy gets paid, no, no, right point thirty
yards per Carrie thus far a couple of big runs,
five touchdowns, already averaging one hundred yards per game.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
Greg, he's been better than I thought coming out. I
loved him coming out, Mike, but I didn't think he'd
be a feature tight back. And he runs much harder
inside than I anticipated. And he's a terrific cutback runner,
and he really gives them both a sustaining element and
a big play element.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
Yeah. The big question, I guess when we get to
and we've got plenty of weeks before we get there, though, Greg,
is whether they have that go to guy. Now they've
showed it and did it Week one against Baltimore. We
all remember that. That's an instant classic you can watch
forever in terms of those guys going back and forth,
but in terms of a go get it guy right now,
I mean Keenan Coleman, Kean Coleman, I should say Khalil Shaki,

(01:12:00):
kind of complating their names and making him one hybrid guy.
But do they have that one guy?

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
Because I think you're right, You're right, at some point
you're going to get man coverage, and you'd like to
be able to feel like, hey, we can beat man coverage.
You know. Obviously, I think Joe Brady does a really
good job scheming and creating plays, you know, scheme touchdowns,
like when they hit Kinkaid last week to put the
game away was a schemed play. You'd love to have
those as well, But at some point your receivers are

(01:12:27):
going to have to win against man coverage, and I
guess well, for that'll come up as we move forward here, Mike,
we're going to find out.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
Yeah, and look, trying to get Kinkaid back to the
player he was in twenty twenty three. Is certainly a
huge piece here, right, miss several games due to injury
la last year, used as a block or a bunch
because of the depleted offensive line. So we'll see if
you can get back to that seventy three catch for him,
because obviously that'll change some complexities of what defenses have

(01:12:56):
to cover up there as well.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
Yeah, they play a lot out of, you know, multiple
tight ends, and they've got this Jackson Hawes kid who
they drafted out of Gelgia Tech after forty years at Yale.
And this guy is a big time blocker, so they
use him now instead of a sixth offensive lineman, which
they did a ton a year ago. But no, they're
a running team. I mean, that's the bottom line. They
are a running football team first and foremost.

Speaker 1 (01:13:18):
Showing the depth of what we do here. Earlier on
we got the use of a Syracuse player in Tucker,
and now we got a Yale guy, So yeah, there
you go. We go deep here at Greg Cosell where
you find him in the Twitter verse, find me over
at Swollen Dome. A couple more games to go, and
then a SoundBite that, well, it's Sunday morning. Let's take
a little bit of levity. We'll do that as we

(01:13:38):
continue and wrap things up. Here it's Fox Football Sunday
on Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back in Fox Football Sunday,
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Coming up in about ten minutes time. Here Fox Sports Radio,
Welcome back in Mike Harmon alongside Greg co Sell as
we wrap things up. A couple more games to get to,

(01:13:58):
but I'd be remiss, you know, levity. We're always looking
for the always look at the bright side of life,
the old Monty Python line as it were. And while
we're trying to find the glass half full moment for
North Carolina Tar Heels fans after being throttled by the
Clemson Tigers, here's something that went viral. Greg. This was
a you know, kind of a man on the street

(01:14:19):
interview with a young lady from North Carolina.

Speaker 7 (01:14:22):
TCU was I went to that game and that was
that was one of the saddest feelings I've had in
university so far, and I've failed midterms before.

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
So let's say something there. You go, I failed midterms,
but that TCU game was worse.

Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
But how dad feels about that?

Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
No, I've got to say, you know, there's some questions
being asked so mid trip. Well, but I mean, if
the final result right, it's all about learning and improvement
whatever else. If my kids are listening, that's not the
way it goes. We strive for excellence every time we
put pen to paper or click a keystroke, no question.

(01:15:00):
But Glenson came out right off the jump with the
seventy five yard trickery play.

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
Yeah, the first play.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
Yeah, just long season ahead here for the North Carolina
tar Heels as they try to get things going under
Bill Belichick. But just thought that was kind of a
funny little side story coming out of a big day
of college football action. Of course, here in Los Angeles,
those few UCLA Bruins fans I know are celebrating that victory,

(01:15:29):
the long awaited win with a big one over Penn State,
but a couple more NFL games to traverse here. We
got a little bit of controversy, a lot of pointing
and fighting, Tennessee cam Ward assessing the first quarter of
the season and his coach saying, you know, you can't
say those things out loud in terms of how poorly

(01:15:50):
the squad's played. Now they're on the road against an
Arizona team that is still an enigma to me through
the first quarter.

Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
What are they greg Arizona? Well, I think there are
a tough defense to play against because they do some
things on the back end that are really difficult to
figure out, and that'll be hard for not only cam Word,
but for the entire offense on the other side. You know,
Kyler Murray, I think he's one of those guys. And

(01:16:17):
I've had this conversation with people, and the film shows it.
He's a tough guy to figure out. There's so many
in any game, by the way, and it could be today.
In any game he can make three special plays and
you go, wow, that's Kyler Murray. But the problem for
him is when you really study him in detail, and
I've probably seen almost every game he's played in the NFL,

(01:16:40):
he leaves a lot of throws on the field and
at times he can't see over his own line. Mic
other times he's too reactive to bodies that he perceives
as pressure, but it's not really pressure. But I think
that's also a function of his size. Other times he
drops his eyes and he looks at the rush, and
therefore he breaks down and he looks to run when

(01:17:01):
he can certainly throw it, he's not really a fine
timing and anticipation thrower. So's he's a hard guy week
to week to figure. Can he be special any given week, Absolutely,
but you just don't know what you're gonna get.

Speaker 1 (01:17:17):
Seems like this is an opportunity though for that Arizona defense,
perhaps to make some hay. We've seen Ward take a
bunch of sacks, so perhaps working off advantageous field position.
I now they're down to their third running back. We
talk about the turning back, the running back carousel, as
it were, the de mercado, the next man up for them.

Speaker 2 (01:17:36):
Yeah, I was. I was unhappy to see Trey Benson
go down because I liked him coming out and when
I saw that, you know, Connor got hurt, obviously another
tragic injury. I was thinking, Okay, this will be a
chance for Benson to really get a full time opportunity.
And then of course he now goes down and they
say probably four to six weeks, so who knows what
that means, but yeah, they're they're down to their third

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guy and they've got to be able to run the
to some degree because Murray is not really that kind
of quarterback.

Speaker 1 (01:18:03):
All right, So we got two games left to touch
on really quick, and I think that's all this one deserves.
Detroit Cincinnati. The most interesting thing is that there's a
large over under number, so fireworks. But is it all
one sided for the Detroit Allions.

Speaker 2 (01:18:17):
Well, obviously, the Cincinnati offense has not been very good
and you just don't know what you're going to get
with them with Jake Browning, I guess we figured out
that Jared goffs okay. In Detroit, their run game has
really started to come around as well, because they are
a very balanced offense. They've got every element you could
want on offense. I know Taylor Decker is likely out

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this week, but you know, they're very good and all
they can win running the ball. They have a short
passing game, and intermediate passing game, a vertical passing game.
They're a very complete offense.

Speaker 1 (01:18:49):
Early goings there, mid first quarter, Cleveland up seven, nothing,
a touchdown pass Gabriel to Harold fannin junior. There you go,
tight end your everybody, he's best friend. A reception for
him and one for Injoku the fan and touchdown.

Speaker 2 (01:19:06):
We're starting Gabriel's Hall of Fame career.

Speaker 1 (01:19:08):
Gabriel's right now you started, that's right, while we're on
in one catch, a yard, one touchdown. Those are my
favorite stat lines. The old Jerome bettis when he had
five carries for one yard and three touchdowns.

Speaker 2 (01:19:20):
One of my there you go, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
Finally no Tyreek Hill done for the year. Miami at Carolina,
Jalen Waddle and the return of Darren Waller of all people.

Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
Yeah, Miami again. They did run the ball last week.
I believe a Hen had twenty carries, if memory sherves
me correctly. They're gonna have to play like that because
that's you know, we've discussed two of before. He's a
specific kind of quarterback. He needs a run game to
be effective. So they're gonna have to really continue to

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lean on the run game and let and allow two
to play the only way he can really play, which
is a pure timing and rhythm player.

Speaker 1 (01:19:58):
Twenty for ninety nine and a score last week for
Ah we'll see if he's back in the receiving game
because just two catches, two yards, but they did get
the win over the New York Football Jets. Boy crazy
slate ahead of us here all the way through Monday night.
Kansas City and Jacksonville one that we're watching with great anticipation.

Speaker 2 (01:20:18):
Every week's a good one, Mike, as far as I'm
concerned football.

Speaker 1 (01:20:22):
No, that's it Son so many storylines to go. The
quarterback carousel will be here for the next iteration next week.
Appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (01:20:31):
Thanks, Mike.

Speaker 1 (01:20:32):
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