Jason Fitz & Buck Reising React to Indiana Beating Oregon, Penn State Losing Again & More!

Jason Fitz and Buck Reising open the show with their thoughts and reactions to another wild day of college football! They get into Penn State's second-straight brutal loss, discussing whether this means the end of James Franklin's tenure as head coach, and reacting to Drew Allar's season-ending injury. They also react as Indiana takes down Oregon, debating whether the Hoosiers have entered the conversation as national title contenders. Plus, more fun with a brand new edition of 'Would You Rather?'

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio win or lose.
I'm not sure there's a bigger game in the early
portion of the college football season than the one we're
seeing right now. And it's not your traditional SEC powerhouses,
it's not your big brands you're used to. It's Oregon
right now in a tie game in the second half
with an Indiana team that is trying to tell the

(00:23):
world you may not want to pay attention, you may
not want to call us one of those programs, you
may not want to buy in, and we don't give
a damn because as we sit right now, Indiana certainly
looks like a college football playoff caliber football team and
they are giving Oregon everything they can handle in Oregon
in a matchup that has massive ramifications for the rest

(00:44):
of the season. He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitz. It's
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(01:06):
so you you buck Rising, sitting in my Cydney, Las Vegas.
You're gonna watch my team, the Raiders take on the
team you cover the Titans on Sunday. We'll talk about
that in a minute.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
But no, we don't have to.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
It's okay, it's okay, Please God, No, we don't have to.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
I swear it's okay, FITZI.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
We want to actually break down the game. Come on,
like that game sucks, but the game we've got right now.
For anyone that doesn't know, you're a lifelong die hard
Indiana guy, right, you're from Indiana. You you've got all
the Indiana University what what do you? What do you sign?
I haven't even gotten to them. I'm trying to give
you accolades right now for your team.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Gotten to what You've been talking for three minutes straight.
Take a breath.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
I learned it from watching you. How are we feeling
right now? How are we feeling?

Speaker 3 (01:49):
I don't know you're you're talking too fast. Martin can't
get a sentence out. And the Hoosiers are competing in
what should be a college football playoff game. It feels
like a big time game at number three Oregon. Here's
the thing, all right, I am a graduate of Indiana University.
I love Indiana basketball. I have lived in the state

(02:10):
of Tennessee for ten years, so my football allegiance is
somewhere between Notre Dame and the Tennessee Balls, who are
also in a pretty interesting game right now hosting unranked Arkansas.
Both of those teams off of bye talk about college
football playoff resume implications as we are well into week seven,
and it's been a fun day so far. Indiana competing

(02:30):
FITZI I've been a Notre Dame fan as far as football.
That's the brilliance of Kurt Signetti. Somebody is going to
hire this man, or at least somebody is going to
throw so much money at this dude, whether it be
Florida or any of these other jobs that feel like
they're going to come open at year's end. Kurt Signetti
at Indiana, the fact that he has an undefeated Hoosiers
team at five and zho coming off a college football

(02:52):
playoff appearance at Indiana where they won eleven games for
the first time in program history, and this man just
snapped his fingers and manifested it out of out of nothing.
It's crazy, and that they are competing with one of
the pre eminent college football programs in the country, Dan Lanning,
an excellent coach, Oregon an excellent institution with a high level,

(03:14):
a high standard for college football.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
It's thirteen all and I'm hype. This is sick.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
It's a really really cool thing just to see what
the new world order of college football can create.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Where fan base is.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
I mean, nobody's ever cared about Indiana football, but they're
gonna make you care, damn it.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Look at them, Look at the Hoosiers. It's awesome. It's
like Birdbox.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
You ever seen that movie Sandra Bullock where it's like
post apocalyptic. They've got this creature that it's going to
turn you into a zombie if you actually stare at
it for too long, and then they turn you into
other zombies that will hold your eyes open and make
you look at the zombie that's going to the creature
that's going to zombie by you. That's the Hoosiers. They're
holding America's eyes open and be look at us.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
Isn't that just a zombie version of like Medusa. It
feels like that's me.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Se I don't think I explained that terribly. Well, that
was not my best work.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
I mean, by the way, even if you don't like
Indiana football, you should be watching them every week right now,
because Fernando Mendoza, in the minds of many, was the
type of guy that could find himself at the top
of the NFL draft next year. That's coming into the
season before it started. And it's funny to me because
there are several draft pundits out there that put him
at the top of the list, and you heard people saying,

(04:22):
I've never even heard of this dude. Well, these are
the ways that you start to hear about him and
you watch him, and he's been really effective in this game.
He's moved the ball with his feet, just got some
rushing artists that they needed in this game. He's managed
to move the change several times and both teams have
required the other team. And I think this is interesting
to be patient, like Indiana and Oregon like to just

(04:43):
move down the field quickly. They like to do it
with big explosive plays, and those big explosive plays really
haven't been there so it's forced Oregon and Indiana to
play a patient and quality football game, just making the
right decision to take what the defense will give.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
You.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Live to see another down on. Like the level of
control that we've seen from both of these teams, understanding, hey,
this is a long process has really been impressive to me, Buck,
And that's part of what's made it feel like such
a heavyweight fight.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
Yeah, and that's the kind of that's that is why
Oregon was going to work well in the Big Ten
in ways that USC and cal or rather UCLA are
not equipped to because Oregon can play this style of football.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
This is like, this is like Iowa.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
And Illinois slugging it out in a late November Big
Ten matchup, Like this is the kind of football that
you are expected to play. It's the kind of football
that travels well. And we know what the Big ten's
travel schedule looks like now where Indiana is traveling to
Oregon in a conference game, it's insanity. But I do
I like the strategy here, in particular, I like the

(05:50):
way that Indiana has not been overtly aggressive. Kurtzignetti is
not to get back into a diatribe about him, but
like he has done so much as far as raising
the level of just football acumen and how they play.
I mean, did you know the backstory on this guy?

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Like one of Nick.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
Saban's top lieutenants at Alabama's wide receiver coach, went into
D two college football coaching just because it was the
path that his dad took and he wanted to kind
of do something similar. He's sixty one, He's out here
playing in one of the biggest games of the college
football season, and it's so nice to see FITZI that
it's actually living up to the hype. There are games

(06:28):
where we put a lot of hype around him and
they just they don't tend to you know, James Franklin,
James Franklin hasn't done what Kurt Signetti is doing, or
at least, you know, they're good enough to lose to
Oregon at this point, either of them.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
But I don't know.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
I would trust Indiana over Penn State, which is a
crazy thing to say in the modern day.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
I mean, is it? Because Penn State right now, if
you haven't checked your scorecards, is losing to Northwestern sixteen
to fourteen in the fourth quarter. So Penn State season
is going off the rails. And it's interesting you brought
up Signetti. So I just looked it up, and according
to data published by USA Today, actually it looks like
last week, Signetti is the eighteenth highest paid coach in
all of college football and the fifth highest paid in

(07:06):
the Big Ten. He's making about eight point three million
below a year. So I'm sorry, he's the sixth highest.
He's paid less than Ryan Day, Lincoln Riley and Dan Lanning,
Matt Ruhle and James Franklin. So I think what's stunning
is to your point you said earlier, you know, somebody's
gonna go swipe him up. Indiana might be doing the
right thing. They're paying him aggressively enough, like this is

(07:28):
the great hope. This is the white whale for everybody.
If you sit there and you say, well, we can't
compete in the modern football world unless we have a
billion dollar facilities. Oh, Indiana's figuring it out. They just
took a score a touchdown awaiting the extra point, but
they have now taken a lead with two sixteen to
go in the third quarter. Indiana is up on Oregon
at Oregon twenty to thirteen. Also, I want to switch

(07:51):
to one other game that I think right now probably
has apoplectic sort of results to it for the fan
bases Texas that we've all given up on. Texas is
up thirteen to six on Oklahoma, Number six Oklahoma in
the Red River Rivalry, which I slowed down to say,
Arch twenty to twenty six for one hundred and sixty
two with the touchdown. He's played a really clean game. Also,

(08:11):
John Mattier is back in this game. It feels like
seven days removed from hand surgery, fourteen to twenty four
for one hundred and forty. But this has been an
ugly football game in Texas right now, thirteen six. If
you're Oklahoma, you are panicking because this is the absolute
worst version we can remember of a Texas team in
a minute, and you are losing the Red River Rivalry

(08:32):
in a year where you have national championship aspirations. It's
just this is tough. There's plenty of time left, but
I'm pretty surprised that Oklahoma can't figure out a way
to move the football.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
No, but I mean, it's it brings into question their
decision to put John Matier out there.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Fitz. He's been intercepted twice. It's not like arch Manning.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
Has done anything in Texas, has done any things so spectacular.
In this game, they're still laboring. They've scored ten points
in the third quarter to kind of try and pull
away here, but it's not. They are not a world
beating Texas team, the type that we thought was national
championship caliber before the season actually began. That they are
going to get questions, difficult questions to answer about why

(09:13):
John Mattier came back in this game.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
I believe it is like he's Is he three weeks
removed from hand surgery? Is he even a month removed?

Speaker 1 (09:21):
I don't think he's a month removed.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
I don't think he is either.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
So it's just it's a really really difficult spot. And
I understand that you want the kid to play, and
the kid wants to play, and he's probably begging and
pleading and being like, coach, I promise, I'm ready.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
I can do.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
This, this, that and the other, and then he can't perform,
and it costs you in a critical opportunity to go
stick it to your rival at their place in one
of the greatest rivalries in college football that we get
and now we get it in the SEC it's just
it's a shame that it's taken the turn that it has,
but it is it is fair to question why they

(09:55):
put John Mattier out there before he appears to be ready.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
Yeah, they him out there, and it looks like the
injury may have been about seventeen days ago, is what
they're saying. Seventeen days ago, So seventeen days were moved
from hand surgery and he's out there. That being said,
they're trying to move the ball as we are in
the fourth quarter on that one, and Penn State we're
waiting review on that. Penn State maybe back in front
of Northwestern. Nobody cares about Penn State because they're unranked

(10:20):
right now. But also, let's just be honest, if Penn
State loses to Northwestern, the James Franklin mumblings are going
to become rumblings real fast, right like this. If this
game goes the wrong way and they're up now twenty
to sixteen, the call on the field bug that just
feels like absolute just mayhem from Penn State fans if
you dropped this one.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
Yeah, but so let's talk about this within the terms
of James Franklin, right, because you brought up the idea
of his comfort level or his level of job security
right now, after having suffered the embarrassments that they have
in the last couple of weeks, if they lose to Northwestern,

(11:02):
and if they continue to look the way that they have,
does it give you a convenient excuse to move on
from James Franklin, who you already had questions about living
up to expectations, living up to hype, building a program
even further because like, let's say he ended up in
the college Obviously this is out of the realm of possibility,
but in a hypothetical world where James Franklin made the

(11:23):
college football Playoff again this year, but they didn't win
the national championship. They made it to the final four,
but they didn't look like a team that belonged in
the final four. And you're looking around and be like,
all right, what do I do here with James Franklin,
Because he's good enough to have us in the final four,
but like these teams just they're not finishing the job.
And I don't know if that's a roster thing or
if that's something to do with the coach who just

(11:43):
can't seem to break through.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Here. If they do have a bottoming and out season.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
Is there a world in which people would entertain or
reasonably entertain, the idea of Okay, well, maybe this just
gives us a good opportunity to move on, to go
in different directions, and to try and get this thing
over the top.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yeah, and I don't think at this point, to your point,
there's enough left on the schedule for Penn State that
they could try and just whoop ass all the way
and get themselves back into the college football playoff conversation.
The college football season is far longer than we accept.
The college football is like we want to make these
sweeping generalizations after one or two losses. But UCLA, by
the way, not for nothing, went out there and just

(12:20):
destroyed Michigan State. Michigan State's bad. But UCLA wins that
game by a lot, which is only going to add
fuel to the fire of no the change that UCLA
was the spark plug that they needed to get better.
So you know, if you're Penn State, you can justify
your way back into it. But step number one is
you got to win this game. They have scored the
touchdown after a little bit of drama, and they are
up twenty to sixteen with about ten minutes to go there.

(12:42):
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Speaker 1 (13:58):
He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitz. I miss those Golden
crawl type Vegas Day's book where you could get like, oh,
you could eat prime rid buffet for like seven bucks.
Now you know I can't do that in Vegas anymore.
You're gonna have not that you ever. Would you eat
too fancy for any of that? Like you if it
doesn't have cloth napkins and somebody that maybe puts the
napkin back on the seat when you get up to
go tinkle, you ain't eating there.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
I want somebody to cut my food in front of
me and then feed it to me. And also Mary
Mack is trying to antagonize me, and I won't stand
for it because we talked about this. I'm insulted the
idea that Mary Mack would tell me that I ate
at a restaurant that she'll remain nameless. That is akin
to Golden Corral, and that it would bother me deeply

(14:39):
even though I enjoyed the experience. It's like when you
used to see if you could get one over on
your friends on like a different kind of alcohol, and
you take some grain alcohol and pour it in a
gray goose bottle and see if they notice, or see
if they were snobs about it.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
That's what Mary Mack did to me. And I don't
feel right about it.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
I don't feel good about it, and I don't like
that she keeps rubbing my nose in it with these rejoints.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
I just want to point out, like, if you ever
come over to my house and you go to find
the top shelf stuff, it's in a top shelf bottle,
tis not top shelf. I mean, I'm the king of
just being like, all right, let's just combine some bottles here,
like all the like, no, none of you tequila snobs
actually know what the hell you're doing. I'll just put
any in there. As long as you're clear. It goes
in the clear one. If it's yellow, goes in the

(15:21):
yellow one. There we go.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
The worst that is the highest level of fine, that's prison,
that's jail.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
I want I need.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
I need somebody to escort Jason Fitz off of the
radio show, like that Eagles fan that was being led
away in handcuffs on the local news the other night.
That's what I'm saying. That's that is an egregious fine.
Shame on you.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
One of these days you're gonna grab the Gray Goosey.
You can be like, why does this CHERI like taste
like Cherry Barnett's And the answer is because it's Cherry
Barnett's and the Gregist bottle. I don't give as you're
drinking my Okay, there we go. I've been find a
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couple of updates. A Pick six by Indiana has tied
the game. Oregon has picked off Indiana returned it for

(16:30):
a touchdown. We have a tie game. We also have
Oklahoma currently with the ball trying to figure out how
to tie it up with Texas State trail by a
touchdown with about eleven minutes ago, and Penn State is
watching Northwestern drive and what has become a wildly interesting
game between two unranked teams. We'll keep you updated. Let
Martin catch you up in just a couple of minutes,
But first let me ask you this, buck, as we

(16:51):
prepare for a big weekend in the NFL, did watching
the Toush push happen four straight times change your mind
on whether or not the Toush push should be allowed
in the NFL at this point?

Speaker 3 (17:02):
Oh, I mean, it's just annoying, Like it's I am
somebody who is okay with it being a football play,
Like it does not offend me the way that it
seems to offend so many people. Because I think it
is a competitive advantage for them because they do it better,
Like all of these other teams try it. All of
these other teams are welcome to perfect it the way

(17:22):
that the Eagles have, and they haven't been able to
do so, whether it be Jacksonville or Josh Allen doing
it how many times in a row in that playoff
game unsuccessfully, Like just essentially ramming his head into a
wall is the experience, So I mean, it doesn't change.
I'm annoyed that that is their greatest source of red
zone offense because I think it should be a bit
more skilled than that, but that at the end of

(17:43):
the day, the goal of the game is to score
more more points than the opponent. And if you have
a quarterback who squats six hundred pounds and it is
an advantage for you to be able to jettison him
into the end zone that way, then I don't know.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
I'm not going to lose my mind about it. Are
you on the other side of this?

Speaker 6 (18:00):
No?

Speaker 1 (18:00):
No, Like I think the dumbest thing right now is
when people are like, well, it doesn't look like a
football play, which is what every old idiot said about
modern passing offenses for the last fifteen year. Other football
I grew up with. I don't care what football you
grew up with. I don't When do we become the
arbiter of what is supposed to look like a football play.
And if your answer is they can't officiate it, then

(18:23):
get better officials. I mean, at the end of the day,
if you can't figure out how to officiate something that
is legal, then you're bad at your job. You don't
take away a fully legal play. Plus, how exactly does
anyone intend? Like first and foremost, I would say, anybody
that hates it, give me a strictly football reason that
it should be made illegal, because nothing about the play

(18:44):
is illegal. There is actually no evidence that it leads
to accelerated injuries. And if your answer is the conversion
rate is too high on it, league wide, the conversion
rate on plays like the touchbush are no different than
the conversion rate on things like extra points, and we
still do that. If you want to talk about it
injury concern, okay, then what are you going to tell
me the next time that they add more football games.

(19:04):
They don't give a damn about injury. So all of
these arguments say, somebody, give me an actual football reason.
And if your answer is it doesn't look good, my
comment to that is, all right, Well, what happens if
Sean Payton develops a new play and it looks really
weird and nobody can stop it? Do Are we just
going to suddenly decide constantly that whatever coach comes up
with something that can't be stopped will simply make it illegal.

(19:25):
Like that's just the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
Uh it is.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
And speaking of pulling away from things or running away
from things, Texas just returned a punt for a touchdown
to pull further away from Oaklom in a big spot.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
For those of you keeping an.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
Eye on the college football playoff, no flags as of yet,
I don't think there are flags on the play, So
it looks like that touchdown is going to stand pending
the extra point. It is nineteen to six in favor
of Texas with less than ten minutes to play in
the fourth quarter.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
But to get back to your point.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
About the tush push, it's football is about real estate acquisition.
That play defines real estate acquisition to me. And it's
violent and it's ugly and it's gruesome and it's brutish.
But whatever, like way, since when did we get so
high faluting about our football? And I know that's funny
coming from me, given my tendency to be a bit
one percent about things. But at the end of the day.

(20:20):
It is the guttural version of the sport. And they're
better at it than you are. They're tougher at it
than you are, they're stronger than you are. Isn't that
the whole point in some form or fashion of football?
So what, it's not an exciting play for red zone
to air. I don't get bent out of shape about
it now. It's not helping them win games right now,

(20:41):
which is an entirely different discussion. And their real estate
acquisition is limited because their offensive line that has been
such a superpower for them is not performing up the
standard of late.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
That's one thing though. On y'all Who Sports Daily, we
have Mike Florio from Pro Football Talk on this weekend.
I asked them about the movement to try and to
try and make to play illegal, and he made a
very valid point. He said, Look, if they keep running
the touch push but they don't win football games, there's
not even going to be a need for a vote
on this thing. If it's not something we're seeing in
the playoffs, it actually will become less a part of

(21:13):
the conversation. And look, I'll admit it, like I play,
I used to play a lot of Madden for money,
Like I you know, I had a problem playing Madden
for money for people. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, No. You
go to a Madden tournament, like and then while you're
at the Madden tournament, you throw in like you just
go up to anybody that's good and to be like, hey,
we're going to have a night tonight. It's a five
hundred dollars PI in and then winter take call. Like
the amount of money I have made in my life

(21:33):
on the road. Used to make a lot of money
playing madn against people Like you just just go out
and kick the snot out of someone. You make money,
you know, beat him in Madam No different than beating
somebody in a basketball game. You know, it's a thing.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
What nerdy fight club? Hell? Is this?

Speaker 1 (21:47):
No Madden? People like people played money for Madden. Darius
Rutger When I was on the road with the band,
and Darius Rutger had a PlayStation and an Xbox set up.
His old thing though, was it was a five thousand
dollars pion to play game with him, and I'm like,
I can't afford to lose five thousand dollars on Madden.
So but my point being, people used to hate playing
against me because I would run the ball thirty times

(22:09):
in a row like I don't care. I will hold
the ball for the entire first half. I will run
three yards of play, and I will score touchdown after
a twenty seven play yard and drive if I have to.
I don't care. As long as I'm holding the ball
and I'm moving the ball downfield, I don't care what
you think of it. I'm here to win. And that's
a video game version of football. If you can do
that in real life, do it. If the Raiders tomorrow

(22:30):
can run a forty five play drive where they gain
two yards of play, but somehow they stay on the
on the field for the entire first half against the Titans,
I don't care. Ends in a touchdown. I'm happy. Martin.
Speaking of touchdowns, let's get Martin weis in here to
get us an update on what's going on right now.
Chaotics Saturday.

Speaker 7 (22:46):
You know, it was really chaotic at the top of
the hour when the website that I use for scores
refreshed Virginia Tech Georgia Tech six times and then decided
to land on negative seven points for Virginia Tech and
negative six points for Georgia Tech.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
In the third quarter.

Speaker 7 (23:03):
So I was like, you know, I'm sure there is
a game happening, but you know that was what happened.
I hand up my bad guys.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
You guys deserve better.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
There's a lot of excuses on the front end, you know,
he says a lot of excuses. I say, sometimes technology
fails and we're just rolling with the punches. None of
us are perfect. We'll get them next time. You're right.

Speaker 7 (23:20):
I should have called the AP, had them phone in
the actual score so I would be ready.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
I'll be ready.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
There's still dudes doing that in the press box. It
makes me insane. What are we doing in the year
twenty twenty five? But anyway, go ahead, lord, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
They were good.

Speaker 7 (23:34):
Ten minutes left for Indiana and Orion back and forth
gave Indiana's given organ everything they can handle, twenty a piece.
The seventh ranged Hoosiers and the third ring Ducks. Oregon
playing at home in this one, Texas, as you guys
just heard from a Buck Rising just returned to a
punt for a twenty to six lead over Oklahoma. Oklahoma
quarterback John Mattier is playing. He just hurt his He

(23:56):
hurt his hands seventeen days ago surgery fourteen days ago.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
He's out there.

Speaker 7 (24:01):
He has three interceptions, so that is going to be
a talking point. I'm sure three minutes and thirty seconds
left in the fourth quarter can confirm thirty five to twenty.
Georgia Tech has a lead over Virginia Tech. Georgia Tech
undefeated five and o two to and oh in conference play.
Ten minutes left in the fourth Notre Dame stretching out
a little bit on NC State twenty seven to seven,

(24:22):
and there looks like they're driving about to punch it
in again. Colorado with a twenty one to seventeen lead
over Iowa State, the twenty second ranked Cyclones trierling just
under eight minutes left in the fourth quarter, and Tennessee
with a twenty to seventeen lead over Arkansas. This one's
been back and forth as well. Tennessee the twelfth ranked
team in the nation. We earlier today we saw Ohio

(24:45):
State force three turnovers against Illinois, turned those into twenty
one points and ended up being a thirty four to
sixteen win. All mishung on against Washington State twenty one
to twenty four. It was a back and forth game
for most of that one to wast the state falls
to three and three. Alabama forces a turnover on Missouri's
flash offensive play twenty seven to twenty four, they get

(25:08):
to win both. Missouri had gone into that one undefeated,
fourteenth right the team in the nation, Alabama eighth and
Florida State. After that impressive Alabama win Week one, zero
and three in conference play, now falls to three and
three after Pittsburgh scored thirteen points in the fourth quarter
to go ahead and take a thirty four to thirty
one victory in that matchup. Now, Buck, I do have

(25:30):
to say this. I saw a clip and I it was,
you know, on Twitter, just scrolls now and I heard
the voice that I had.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
I was like, oh, I know that voice from anywhere.
That's Buck Rising.

Speaker 7 (25:41):
I heard a clip and I didn't know which one
of the three guys you were in the clip is
because I had never seen you before. But the idea
that was it Mari Yota was calling his own plays
is insanity and sanity. Oh, Ben Jones in sanity Back
to you guys.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitch. You're right by the way.
Buck had Ben Jones, former Titans center on his local show,
and it was a pretty staggering to hear some of
the things that they were talking about from Mario's time
in Tennessee and just how bad certain offensive coordinators were.
Reminded everybody the coaching matters, what else matters that During
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Jason Fitz and I think that's just part of what
we have to understand. Like coaching matters, playing matters, execution matters,
all of it matters. Everybody wants to find one failure,

(26:45):
one reason for failure when everything's fail And let's go
back to Philly for a second, Buck, because you've got
a couple of wide receivers. Apparently, according to multiple reports
in aj Brown and devouta Smith that weren't happy with
the offense, but it didn't matter when they were four
and oh that was ten days ago. Now they're four
and two and it feels like the sky is just falling.
Are you ready to just be out at this point

(27:07):
on being able to accomplish anything in Philly.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
Well, I've not really had I know it's dumb to say,
but I've not had high expectations for Philadelphia this year
before the season started. And my logic fitsy is this,
it is damn near impossible to win back to back
Super Bowls, to be as competitive for two consecutive seasons

(27:30):
of just grinding, grueling football the way that a lot
of teams save the Kansas Kansas City Chiefs, have been
able to accomplish. It's it's really difficult. So that I
looked at Philadelphia and said, yeah, they're divisions not the best.
Washington should push them, certainly, should give them at least
a fight for the division at this point. But I

(27:51):
don't think that this year's Philadelphia team should have a
Super Bowl aspiration, given that they just won the championship
and those seasons are incredibly long when you're playing that
much football at the end of the year, so that
they're kind of, you know, showing some of these awards.
I'm I think they'll figure it out. There's still who
has a more talented roster than Philadelphia, Like which which

(28:13):
NFL team anywhere? And I know it's not just simply talent,
and talent is I mean, players on the field are
what when you football games. The coaching obviously is there
to support. But who has a better roster top to
bottom still than Philadelphia.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
I don't think many teams would even be in the
same category. And that's why I'm just not willing to panic,
you know. I think this is what we have to learn.
With Super Bowl teams from prior years. You get so
much just experience on what it takes and what the
grind is. I think in the next season. We used
to always call it like the Super Bowl hangover effect,

(28:47):
and I think there's some reality to that, But I
also think in modern football there's a little of like
I know when I need to just dial it back
a little bit, and I know when I need to
absolutely go all gas, no breaks. Kansas City over the
last few years has been willing to struggle early in
the season, even in the middle of the season, knowing
that they need to be all gas, no breaks in
December and then all of a sudden. This is like

(29:09):
part of the reason that I feel like most years
we're having a conversation about Kelsey's old and he's broken,
and then we get to the playoffs and it's like,
got ten catches, eleven catches, nine catches? Why because he
understands it. A game in November doesn't really matter, right.
So I do think that there's a little bit of
a your four and two and everybody's telling me how
broken it is, and yeah, the offense hasn't looked right,
that's all. Those are all fair things to say. I

(29:32):
just don't know that I believe at my core that
Philly won't get it right. I think there's just part
of the process of like, we're going to get the
rhythm and the timing and in a month we'll be fine.
And as long as we're treading water until we're fine
and we're truly playing our best football in December, I'm
not going to panic. It's not that big a deal.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
I believe it was Diana Russini this week that had
the stat about Philadelphia prior to Thursday Night Football leading
the league in three announce and things like that are concerned, right,
but it doesn't mean it shows that they've hit a
bit of a rut. And as a talented roster and
a defending champion, we're going to hyper analyze everything that

(30:09):
we do. God knows in that market they are going
to hyper scrutinize.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
I love Eagles fans by the way.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
They lose their first game in a situation where you know,
a lot of teams would would lose given what they
were up against against the Broncos. And I saw texts
or messages flying around from like Eagles message boards or
social media.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
About Keith Nick Sirianni away from my team.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
They just lost their first game in one hundred and
eighty seven days, like that's the standard for Philadelphia football.
So I acknowledge that on the front end, I am
not out on the Eagles by any stretch of the imagination.
I think that they have some things to work through.
I think that they're fun to talk about, and they
have polarizing personalities. And if Aj Brown is going to
add some fuel to the fire because he doesn't necessarily

(30:51):
understand the context of a question or just wants to
screw with the Philadelphia media postgame the way that you know,
I covered Aj for his first three years of his career.
He likes to have some fun from time to time,
and that's all well and good, but it turns into
a whole thing, and then he's got to put out
a clarification on Twitter yesterday, FITZI about the meeting in
the parking lot and all of the things that we're

(31:13):
freaking out about when the Eagles are foreign to You
know what I would do to cover a foreign to
football team because I used to. It's those things are
you see in real time or it's hard to separate
yourself in real time from flaws that you can obviously
see because you see this football team every day if
you're a Philadelphia fan or a Philadelphia media member, or
just for as often as they're on television for us

(31:35):
all to see them this way. But in reality, they
have too much talent to not be able to overcome
some level of this. Do I think they're going to
win the Super Bowl this year?

Speaker 2 (31:45):
No?

Speaker 3 (31:45):
I think that they have some flaws and that they are.
There are better teams out there, but it's a wide
open NFC. It's not like anybody looks better than them
right now, even though they've got their own wards, and
I do think that they're smart enough to figure it out.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
State misses a big tackle and gives up a huge
first down again unranked Penn State right now they are
without the ball. They are trailing by one with a
minute and forty one seconds to go in the game.
Northwestern with the ball and with the ability to control
the clock here, so we'll see how that plays out.
Texas is up on Oklahoma, and of course we have

(32:22):
a score. Indiana has taken the lead against Oregon. He's
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(32:42):
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on the scores across college football, some big results coming
down to the Wireplus, Buck just said something about Eagles
fans wanting to fire Sirianni That has me wondering, why
does everybody everybody the hate their favorite teams coach. We'll
talk about it next Fox Sports Radio. He's Buck Rising.

(33:04):
I'm Jason Fitz. Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio
College football Saturday is just never disappoint He's Buck Rising.
I'm Jason Fitz. It's fucking Rising hanging out with you,
Fucking Rising? Good God, can we just know that's fine?
The name of the same Bucking Rising. Like that.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
I like this music. Mary's trying to get back on
my good side. Don't think I don't see you.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
Because you think she she knew that you wanted some
some Latin lover music.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
Just neel a little shelter shaking music. I'm about to
be on the Vegas Strip after this. I got a
big night ahead of me. FITZI, I just need to
need to feel something a little bit.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
I I you know, I don't regret much in my
life in general. I regret that I didn't prioritize going
out to Vegas just a party with you all weekend
and then watch the Raiders kick the snot out of
the Titans with all my friends that seemed to be
in town, a couple of a big what what the
Raiders are gonna win that game? Okay, so just just
just stop with it.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
Probably, but like, what great triumph to beat up on
the Tennessee Titans, who needed Amari Democrato to fart the
football out backwards as he was crossing the goal line
last week and route to one of the dumbest things
that continues to happen in the National Football League, the
rare fumble touchback situation that allows a team to rally
back down fifteen. Yes, I'm so happy for you if

(34:24):
you beat the mighty Titans.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Oh well yeah, but you know full damn well that
if the opposite holds true, the listening audience in Nashville
that you hang out with every day, many of who
follow me on social media, you know that they're gonna
be relentless if the Titans beat the Raiders. Like, let's
just be honest. This is like, this is a Spider
Man meme of two terrible teams talking to two terrible teams. Like.
This is a fat girl calling somebody else fat. This

(34:47):
is an ugly guy calling somebody else ugly. Like this
is just like, at some point, I'll take a win.
I don't care what it looks like. I don't care
how I get out of the slump. I just want
a slumpbuster. And if that's gonna be the Titan, then
keep the lights off, and let's just get this thing
whatever it takes.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
God knows, the Titans wouldn't be the first lumpbuster in Nashville.
I think that.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
For your purposes, they may, they may be able to
right those wrongs, but they are I mean, they are
both fraud football teams. Like we don't have to get
into a full Titans Raiders breakdown for the national audience
that doesn't know. Nobody wants it. I don't even want it.
I cover the Titans. I'm in Vegas. I travel, I
cover the team and travel across the country, so.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
I go to all these games.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
I'm here in Vegas, Titans playing at Vegas for the
first time since Vegas, or since the Raiders moved to
Vegas last time they were still in Oakland. Fit's a very,
very traumatic in twenty nineteen terrible stadium. Anyway, I think
that when you talk about like there's a lot of
desperate football teams out there in Week six, right as
we get ready to get the Week six games back

(35:53):
underway after Thursday Night football, I mean, think about the
Baltimore Ravens. They are hosting the Los Angeles Rams this week.
They are also they have they sport the same record
as the Mighty Titans and Raiders. When that, I think,
by consensus, at least in the AFC, I felt more.
I felt like more people picked Baltimore to win the
Super Bowl this year than they have since Lamar came

(36:13):
into the league.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Now, let's not get it twisted though. According to Vegas,
Baltimore is still the favorite to win their division today
right now as it stands. And you mentioned the Ravens
and it just makes me, it sort of makes my
skin crawl a little bit for Ravens fans because full
transparency Yahoo Sports stately, the show that I'm on every day,
we have a Ravens fan and a Bills fan that

(36:35):
both work on that show behind the scenes, right well,
a couple of our producers. And we also have a
Browns fan. What is amazing to me is that when
we first started talking about each of our favorite teams,
you just have a conversation behind the scenes. The Browns
fan was like, yeah, I can't wait for this team
to fire Kevin Stefanski, Like, Kevin Stefanski is the problem.
The Ravens fan was like, yeah, I've been waiting for

(36:56):
this team to fire Harball forever. He is not the
guy to get it to the next and then the
Bills fan in another meeting is that they're talking about. Yeah, no,
McDermott isn't the answer. I think back to when the
Seahawks just lost. I had a buddy that's a Seahawks
fan text me. He's like, yeah, we got to get
a new coach. I'm like, you've lost your dann mind,
to which he then started sending me tweets and Reddit
threads and all of these things of everybody saying, hey,

(37:18):
Michael McDonald is not the answer. The defense isn't good
enough for a defensive head coach. Like, I don't know,
y'all like what you think, but I just constantly say this. Look,
I am a fan of a team that I think,
by the numbers, have had sixteen coaches in the last
twenty three years, sixteen seventeen. Like every time somebody sits
here and says, fire my coach, my dea, and then
it's like, well, you don't just keep running it back

(37:40):
because you don't run it back because you're afraid to change.
I'm like, that's what you say when you've been good
enough that you're not scared of being terrible. I'm sorry,
Like some of y'all need to learn that being terrible
is actually worse than being pretty good and not getting
to the super Bowl. I don't know why you don't
see that, but man, like, if your team is three
and fourteen every single year, that hits it. If you're

(38:01):
telling me you need to fire Harball because the Ravens
haven't won a Super Bowl, there's just asinine to me.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
Do you know what Mike McDonald, just because you brought
him up, do you know what his record at home is? No,
it's four and twelve, he's nine to one on the road.
They don't win in front of their home fans. So
I think there's a couple of things there. Just to
talk about that example, specifically, they haven't won at home.
The people that are going and showing up and attending

(38:27):
their games, who are going to be their most passionate
are going to be freaking out because they are just
objectively bad at home. Whether whether they're in these games
or not. I don't know what the correlation there is,
but I think that would feed at least that specific example.
Now I'm in Tennessee or I've covered Tennessee, there was
fire Brian Callahan signs on college game day to day.

(38:48):
College game day was in Eugene, Oregon. You tell me
what's going on there. Each context is required for each
of these situations fits.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
And that's the hardest thing about this is that I
think every but he just presumes this guy can't get
it done, so I'm gonna go get somebody else and buck.
Where I think that gets just dangerous is that you
end up with this cycle as you and I have
talked about, where the person making the decisions doesn't change.
But also, I think there's a lot more bad coaches
out there than good ones. I just believe shit at
my cord that there's plenty of just terrible, terrible coaches.

(39:19):
And I don't know that changing your coach, like everybody
wants a fast answer, because changing a coach is better
than changing fifty three, But I don't know that it works.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
It's like chasing a quarterback. Everybody wants Patrick Mahomes. Everybody
wants Kyle Shanahan because Kyle Shanahan can just whip up
some wizardry and win games with Mac Jones after he
just saw a dead body in a body of water
afterwards like it or before just craziness.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
I mean, Mac Jones, Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, Daniel Jones. Like.
The list of quarterbacks that have gone on to be
successful when they're not with the coach they're with is
a reminder to everybody that maybe your favorite team's quarterback
doesn't suck, maybe your favorite team's coach sucks. But then
how do you find the right coaches that can get
the right things out of them? I don't know. There's
no easy en, So we'll keep breaking it down. Plus

(40:01):
we'll get you caught up on the biggest news in
college football coming up next. Bucking fits Fox Sports Radio.
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. As it stands
right now, Oregon is oh and or sorry, I should say,
Indiana is oh and forty six all time against top
five teams on the road, own forty six all time.

(40:22):
And as I say that out loud, Oregon has thrown
another interception. Indiana has the ball and this game is
all but over. The Hoosiers are about to beat Oregon
at Oregon number three. Oregon is about to fall to Indiana.
That's now a football score. I don't know how to
process that. This He's buck rising on Jason Fitz I'll

(40:44):
be honest, I was wrong about this on Fox Sports Radio.
I really thought that Oregon would make a big statement here,
and I thought that we would find out Indiana was
just like last year. They've got it's a good team.
They can explode on anybody. But at the end of
the day, it takes a different level of depth and
size and speed and all of these things to be
able to compete, different level of money usually to be
able to compete with some of the best in the nation.

(41:06):
And now instead Indiana has gone into Oregon and they
are up thirty to twenty and interception gives them the
ball back with two minutes to go. They are literally
in victory formation. This thing's over, Buck, and Indiana has
just made a statement to everybody. They are a college
football playoff team. They now have the wiggle room to
lose games and still end up in the college football

(41:26):
playoff Like this is a stunning statement of I don't
care what you think, and I don't care about our
past today. As of right now, Indiana's a football school.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Why would you do that?

Speaker 1 (41:38):
Well, they are the fall No.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
I wanted to celebrate them. I wanted to enjoy it.

Speaker 8 (41:43):
I don't like that doesn't mean you can just smack
me across the face with my beloved college basketball blue
blood no longer turning into a football school Like I.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
I mean, Indiana basketball is fine. I just say Indiana
football is going to be that.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
It's fine either. It's a four month headache in my life.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
Why the football team can figure this out so quickly
but the basketball team can't get off its ass is
incredible to me anyway, So let's be positive about what
Indiana is doing. Where even are the slip ups for that? Well,
maybe this is interesting. They host Ucla, who all of
a sudden is playing like a significantly better football team
after looking like literally the worst football team in the

(42:25):
Big Ten for the first month of the season. But
they are home from Michigan State and Ucla. After this,
They're at Maryland and at Penn State. Maryland's a little
frisky this year, home Wisconsin at Purdue to finish out
the regular season. If they can manage this, unless it's
just a complete fluke type of situation where they're exhausted

(42:46):
from a West coast trip, all of a sudden, they're
playing Michigan State and they just don't have the jew Son,
something that would be completely inexplicable. There's no good reason
why Indiana can't win out the rest of its schedule,
which is an insanity.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
You could be talking about an Indiana team that's undefeated
and playing in the Big Ten Championship game like that's
that's wild. At this point, Indiana controls their own destiny
to get into the Big Ten Championship game and take
on Ohio State. And again, this is where you look
at it and say, well, Ohio State will take care
of them. I mean, will they at this point. Look,

(43:21):
this game has come down to some big plays and
the final margin is gonna be a little thing, I think,
a little bigger than the game itself felt at times.
But if you believe that Oregon has consistently been one
of the better teams in the country, the way this
game played, just the actual roadmap of this game, you
have to believe at this point that Indiana is one
of better teams in the country. Because they went blow
for both. This wasn't a fluky, weird signetti offense that

(43:43):
did something cute that nobody expected. This wasn't a oh
Oregon had a few busted plays defensively, like It was
none of that. This was two teams that genuinely were
just throwing haymakers at each other throughout the course of
this game, and the fact that Indiana held up on
both lines. This I think is maybe one of the
most impressive things we've seen all season, because there was

(44:04):
a very statement answer here of no, we can handle
upfront whatever you want to send at us, and we
can handle it the right way. It wasn't even a
perfect game for Indiana, and they're still in this situation
where they're up by ten in an already in victory
formation like this, this is a statement win for the program.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
There's a really famous line from Tony Kornheiser, who has
of course been on ESPN and a longtime sports writer,
longtime Washington sports personality. But money is the answer to
all of your questions. One of my favorite Tony Kornheiser lines.
That's why they're competing, they're spending, they're investing in the
football program. And listen, Mark Cuban is not Phil Knight, Like,
I'm not dealing with Nike money here. But there are

(44:45):
actual people who care about supporting athletics and boosters who
care about supporting athletics. Who are going to help create competitive,
high level college football where the there has not historically been.
Look at Virginia this year, FITZI, I mean Indiana seems
to be like now a team or a program rather
that we're going to have to talk about or that
we will talk about in terms of, Hey, they're gonna

(45:08):
be here, They're gonna be in the picture, They're going
to be competitive every year. We are now going to
have discussions after the season, again, assuming that they handle business,
that people stay largely healthy, and that they make it
to the College Football Playoff after handling what is now
their toughest test or what will be their toughest test
at Oregon this year. Virginia has just done something similar

(45:29):
this year where they've got an upset on Florida State,
and now Florida State looks a little bit more hollow
these last few weeks, but still like you can create
this stuff in places where historically college football has not
been great and grow college football as a result.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
I think it's awesome.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
I really Again, I'm not going to pretend like I'm
a diehard Indiana who's your football fan? Because I went
to Indiana and that's where my degree is from that
program has been an afterthought for its entire existence. But
I think it's really special when you show a fan
proof of concept and say, no, we're really going to
support it this time. We're really going to do this

(46:06):
the way that high level, high major college football programs do,
and we're going to show you the results as they go.
Indiana's proving it week by week. To their credit. It's
a just a great it's a great sports story.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
You also have to have smart football minds in the room.
I mean, look, North Carolina football has become one of
the biggest jokes in all of sports. And whether you
blame Bill Belichick on that for being distracted, or whether
you blame Mike Lombardi, the longtime right hand man of
Bill Belichick, that is sort of the main guy accumulating
that talent. No matter how you want to look at it,

(46:41):
North Carolina has been an epic fail, even though they
tried to invest money. And it comes back to something
Nick Sabman said on game day last year that always
gets stuck in my head. They talk about how much
money is going to different players, and Saban said, He's like,
you know, that's great. If you spend the money on
the right guys. If you don't, you're screwed. And there
is some element of that that it isn't. The most
empowering thing about college athletics to me right now is

(47:02):
that if you choose to, you can simply just invest
money and you can turn your program around. But you
have to invest the money smart like you have intelligently right.
You have to put it into players that can actually
become difference makers. You have to put it into a
coach that actually is worth the money that he gets.
And that's the role of that. I said that I
don't want to undersell Buck because you're right, Like, it's

(47:24):
awesome that Indiana is so relevant in college football. Indiana
is relevant in college football because they have put some
money behind the program, because they are paying a coach
that is worth every penny at Kurt Signetti, worth every
dollar that he's getting in it, and because they've done
a good job evaluating talent talent in the transferporter. Their
sales pitch to get Mendoza to come over as a

(47:45):
quarterback is one that every single program in college football
could have made. So there is this equal playing field.
Everybody could have made it. So whatever they're doing to identify,
sell and then put that those guys in the right position.
I don't want to undersell that because it's not as
simple as stack your bank account. You actually have to
do something right with the money when you get it well.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
And that's the fascination to me.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
And we've talked about this before in different context, but
like the sustainability of this, how sustainable is it? Because
you're gonna have like we deal with free agency, like
we deal with draft busts for lack of a better term,
or just draft picks that just generally don't meet expectation.
You don't have to go to the extreme of bust,
even though there are those two. The idea that there

(48:28):
are going to be years where you just get it wrong,
you're not going to have perfect evaluations year over year,
and how you make up for that as a coaching staff,
how you get through those trying times I'm curious to
see again because Kurtzignetti is not like a long term thing.
This is the thing that I think Dabbo was trying
to get the point across a couple of weeks ago
when he was having his diatribes at the podium and

(48:50):
talking about he's just now fifty five. He's just now
getting ramped up as a coach. Kurtzignetti is sixty one.
He's just arrived at Big ten, Power four or college
football this way, and I don't know what he is
going to view this opportunity as, but if he wants
to turn Indiana into a legitimate college football power, he

(49:12):
has the ability to do so because they're backing him
the way that those programs need to be appropriately backed.
I mean, I'm sure you saw at some point, whether
you were covering it for Yahoo Sports Daily or just
kind of doom scrolling on Twitter. FITZI when the athletic
director of Arkansas in the press conference where they're talking
about firing Sam or where they have fired Sam Pittman

(49:32):
has asked a question about resources. Did Sam Pittman have
the necessary resources to compete at a high enough level
in the SEC? And the athletic director frankly and smartly
took the opportunity to say, well, no, I don't think.
I mean, in not so many terms and I'm paraphrasing
here slightly, but to just basically say, yeah, we didn't
have enough. Like if you want to be notre dame,
if you want to be if you want to be Alabama,

(49:53):
if you want to be Auburn, Florida, whatever. Those things
aren't going to be perfect and they're not all successful.
But we need more money here to compete at that level.
And it's reductive to boil it down to just that,
but you have to find ways. There's no perfect balance.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
Right. You're going to miss on years in the portal.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
You're going to have recruits that don't pan out to
their five star expectations or what have you. But coaching
can still make up for that. And that's what Kurt
Signety and Indiana are doing.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
Yeah, one hundred percent. And part of the reason that
I think this becomes sustainable for right now for Indiana
is because he's done it back to back years with
different players. And you know, when we've talked in the
past about Diego Pavia and Vanderbilt, and the question is, well,
is Vanderbilt a new football program that's going to sustain
or is this just a cute one year or two years.

(50:38):
I think you got to see it with another quarterback, right,
You got to see that extra person come in and say, Okay,
I understand where we're going. I think that there's a sustainability.
If you're Indiana and you're doing it now with so
many players that are different than that you did it
with last year, now it becomes part of your sales pitch. Hey,
this is who Indiana football is moving forward, as opposed
to having one great year where you know, Washington had

(50:58):
a great year where okay, you had a coach, but
you also had Michael Pennings junior and you had Romaduonze
and you have all these people on one team. Well, okay,
you went to a national championship with that. That's hard
to repeat over and over and over again. I think
the biggest key for Indiana in winning a game like
today is that it just becomes a message to recruits.
Come here and you're going to be part of something explosive.

(51:19):
Come here and you have a shot to win the
Big ten. Come here and we can still pipeline you.
But also we can not only pipeline you to the NFL.
We can make you successful. We can make you a
household name here. There's so much power to that sales
pitch that that's why these moments are so significant, not
just for the win and what it means for the
college football landscape. This year, but for the overall, you

(51:40):
have to take Indiana football seriously for the next ten years.
Conversation day like today, does that.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
Valls by the way pulling away?

Speaker 3 (51:49):
It was a close game, It was a tide game,
but Arkansas has not scored since then. It's twenty seven
to seventeen, late in the third quarter at this point
in time, FITZI just talking about programs and expectations and
opportunities to build. What Kirby Smart has built at Georgia
is impressive, but they are four and one. They're going

(52:09):
to Auburn here in just about fifteen minutes. I believe
that game is about to kick off and get underway.
And I'm so curious to see how the conversation changes
around programs like Georgia, where there are these new arrivals
and where their model is less sustainable than it has been.
And I don't have any doubts in my mind that
Kirby Smart and Georgia are going to find ways to adapt,

(52:30):
because literally, the only thing that they care about is
as an athletic department, whether they're saying it publicly or not,
is football. They are going to pour as many resources
as can be poured into that football program, whether it
be legally or illegally, how Kirby Smart is viewed in
a situation like this, because Auburn, Auburn's just kind of

(52:51):
a weird college football team. No matter who the coaches
or who's on the team, they're due for a weird
one on the planes. It's one of the more popular
upset picks of the week, Auburn over number ten Georgia
three and two. Auburn hosting Georgia here in just a
few minutes from now, and I'm curious to see how
narratives change around those two coaches depending on what this
outcome is.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
Yeah, it is alarming, how what you said just it
matters like narratives around some of these coaches. It's really
difficult to figure out short term. Long term. I think
college football is more and more like the NFL, love
it or hated. College football is more and more like
the NFL, where we want to make sweeping commentaries after
every week, and I think it just takes longer to know.

(53:32):
But there are certain teams I get it. I understand
the Georgia losing Tobama is the sort of thing that
just takes the wins out of the sales. But this
is where I'm the one guy that covers college football
that constantly wants to remind people these rivalry moments don't
really matter. They do, but like, what's going to matter?
What's really going to change the way Indiana, for example,
is forever perceived is go get to a national championship game,

(53:55):
not even win it. Go get to a national championship game.
We'll talk about the court of public opinion. Because he's
Buck Rising, I'm Jason Fitz When we come back, one
of the biggest names in college football is absolutely on
the hot seat today. We'll break it down with all
the college football action. We'll do it next Bucking Fits
on Fox Sports Radio. Oh, in a few years we're
gonna be saying, who the hell is James Franklin. Just

(54:17):
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at home to Northwestern today. Drew Aller, James Franklin has
confirmed is now out for the season with the season
ending ankle injury. So somebody that had a lot of
draft to hope and promise played a little bit this
year for a team that looked absolutely horrific, and State

(55:00):
has now lost three straight games. It's not just a
loss to Oregon at home, it's also turning around and
then losing in the middle of that to UCLA, which
by the way, looks like a much better football team today.
Could have had some hope and joy, but then you
came back home and you lost by one to Northwestern.
Just an absolute epic meltdown in Happy Valley, and Buck,

(55:20):
I just I don't know. This is where people will
talk about buyouts. I think buyouts are funny money. College
programs can make that money wherever they want to, especially
programs like Penn State. I just don't know how James
Franklin comes back from this one, because the argument has
been he can't win the big one. That's fine, well,
now he's lost two straight little ones, and that is
just that's not going to be fine for Penn State fans.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
I saw the jokes being made last week. I'm sure
they're back again this week about James Franklin playing checkers
not chess, en route to losing the teams, that he
is an underdog too. Anyway, now he's just losing as
a favorite in these games. His buyout, and I'm looking
this up now as we sit here, is who. So

(56:05):
the contract was ten years, eighty five million dollars. The
exact figure, not that there's estimated figures of about fifty
six million, is what it would cost to buy them out.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
Now that's a huge number.

Speaker 3 (56:18):
And I understand what you're saying about monopoly money, and listen,
in the world of Jimbo Fisher buyouts, fifty six million
no longer raises raises as many alarms as it used
to because of the outrageous amount of money the college
football coaches are making now Alur and again, it may
be the severity of the injury. I don't want to speculate,

(56:41):
and it would be pure speculation, but if Allur's injury
is significant enough and Penn State is obviously going nowhere.
I don't know what do you do if you're Drew
allur like, does it benefit you to try and just
declare for the draft at whatever point you feel I mean,
now that is college football season is over. He has
eligibility left. If I'm not mistaken, I don't know what

(57:04):
benefits Drew Aler most here. I imagine he can still
make money, meaningful money at Penn State. But there are
a few people save Arch Manning, that have hurt themselves
as draft prospects more than the Penn State quarterback.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
Yeah, I think at some point you just got to
get yourself out and in the process, especially in a
year in a world where no quarterback has really separated
himself this year, I feel like there's a good opportunity
if you're talking about who's going to be the first
quarterback selected in the NFL draft next year. We talked
about Fernando Mendoza, the quarterback in Indiana. A lot of

(57:37):
people really like him. There have been several smart football
people that have said Drewaler is much higher on draft
boards than people realize. Outside of that and what was
supposed to be the savior of quarterback classes, Arch Manning
certainly doesn't look like he's even gonna come out, and
if he does come out, and he doesn't look like
he's the savior of much even if he did have
a better game today, Garrett Nusmeyer, is that like a

(57:57):
guy that you really want to build your sellers? Had
some nice moments, but I don't know, like, it doesn't
feel like there's a shorefire. Oh my god, this guy
is him at the quarterback position, and we always know
that there's half a dozen quarterback desperate teams in the
NFL Draft. I think Drew Aller has to look at
it and say, man, what's worse putting more stuff? Like
the whole issue you have, as I've mentioned before, when

(58:19):
your favorite band just starts putting out, you know, record
after record that sucks, and then they're not your favorite
band anymore, and you're like, oh, what do I do
with the fact that I really liked the first three
records and everything since then it has sucked. That's like
college football. What do you do if it's like every
single time you step on the floor on the field,
you're only making your life more difficult because analysts are
getting more film and it doesn't really look as good

(58:40):
like that's the risk for guys that play eight thousand
years at college football, and it feels like that's more
of a risk for Drew Aller right now because it
just hasn't looked good all year for ben State.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
The other part of this is because I think people
make too much about the idea of firing a coach
in season. I understand that there's not a lot of
things that it necessarily helps, but there are there have
been enough of these instances where there there do tend
to be there are more boosts from a coaching change

(59:13):
in season from just that specific teams in season results
than you might imagine there to be, because obviously, as
you well know, fits, I've had that conversation plenty in
Nashville doing the local show covering the Tennessee Titans, given
the state of their roster and the embattled nature of
the coach that now is overseeing the development of this
year's at number one overall draft pick for for Penn State,

(59:37):
like firing James Franklin in season, is an interesting approach
because I'm gonna assume and I should maybe I shouldn't
make these assumptions. I feel like administrators and in the
same way that coaches get more credit than they deserve
a lot of times, I think administrators and administrators get
more credit than they deserve as well. I'm gonna assume, though,
that they have an idea of who they would replace

(59:57):
James Franklin with today, Like I'm assuming that they would
have some options there, some considerations being given, some people,
a list of people that they would call should they
make a coaching change. Fifty six million, Again, it's an
estimated figure. Is that too big a bullet for Penn
State to bite? I don't know, but I think that
if you're looking for an easy way out of this thing,

(01:00:19):
what I have to imagine that there's a good deal
of people in Happy Valley that are just completely fine
with moving on from James Franklin. If he's no longer
if the message is no longer getting home, and you're
in a situation where you're getting ready to bottom out,
I think it's okay to make that move.

Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
Yeah, And I think the NFL is a lot different
than what we see in college football because you got
to ask yourself, what, like, what's the purpose of getting
rid of your coach mid season? Well, I think part
of the purpose of getting rid of your coach. Mid
season in college football is when you know that that
coach is likely on the hot seat. It gets used

(01:00:58):
against you in recruiting so much. There's this element for
me of, hey, if you get people out, you can
start to figure out who's going to come in. You
can start to work your back channels. I'm figuring out
what the next coach is going to look like. You
can essentially say, hey, what's been State fighting for at
this point? A bowl game? Who cares about a bowl game?
Get ahead of whatever the future of the roster looks like.
And in order to do that, I think you really

(01:01:19):
have to be prepared, even if you don't do it
until the end of the season. You need to be
able to make a move incredibly quickly on who your
next coach is going to be, so that you're ahead
of all of the people that are going to hit
the transfer portal, so that you're ahead of all of
the conversation around recruiting. Like, those are the opportunities that
come from making a quick and decisive decision when it

(01:01:39):
comes to the head coaching position in college football. So
I actually like an in season move in college football
more than I do in the NFL. In the NFL,
everybody seems to have some outside chance of the playoffs,
and maybe if you get in the playoffs, you can
do something weird, maybe things can break differently. I just
don't think that there's anything that can be done now
that puts Penn State in a situation with three losses.

(01:02:00):
There is nothing they can do the rest of the
year that will put them into college football playoffs. So
they are literally playing for absolutely nothing the rest of
the year other than pride, and pride isn't gonna matter
after the season is over. So go ahead and get
out there and get your first steps towards figuring out
what the future of your football program looks like.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
Right now, the one thing that can be done that
is inevitable is Martin Weiss with some updates on what's
going on in the rest of college falling around the
sports world.

Speaker 7 (01:02:27):
We'll start over in your neck of the woods, Tennessee.
Right now, the twelve ranked team in college football with
a thirty four to twenty four lead over Arkansas eight
minutes left in the fourth quarter, eight minutes left in
the first quarter of Florida and Texas, A and M
this one all tied up at seven earlier today and
some top twenty five results we had. Ohio they beat
Illinois thirty four to sixteen. Indiana just beat Oregon thirty

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to twenty, Oregon losing at home. As the number three
ranked team in the nation, the Hoosiers the seventh Indiana
remaining undefeated Ole Miss. I mean it took a lot
to good bass Washington State today, who fell to three
and three Old miss undefeated, the fourth ring team in
the nation, goes six to oh twenty four to twenty one.
Texas goes to four and two. Oklahoma drops their first

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game of the year in the Redd River rivalry, twenty
three to six. The final score there. Alabama twenty seven
to twenty four over Missouri and a ranked SEC matchup
Georgia Tech. They are also undefeated three and O and
ACC play as well, thirteenth ranked team in the nation
with a thirty five to twenty win over Virginia Tech.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
Two and five for the Hokies on the year.

Speaker 7 (01:03:30):
Notre Dame with a thirty six to seven win over
NC State for a fourth consecutive win for the Fighting Irish,
who started out zero to two. Colorado with a twenty
four to seventeen win over twenty second ranked in Colorado,
I mean Iowa State and Pittsburgh beat Florida thirty four
to thirty one.

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
Florida started in Florida, st Florida.

Speaker 7 (01:03:50):
State, I'm sorry, started out the year with that win
over Alabama and now falls to zero to three in
conference play. Elsewhere in the Big Ten, Iowa and Wiscon
send the Hawkeyes with a three to nothing lead. Just
put a Fueld goal through the uprights just under five
minutes left in the first quarter. You can find that
one on FS one. And just got news coming down
from Adam Schefter and others that Drew Aller will be

(01:04:14):
missing the remainder of his season after the injury that
they suffered that he suffered in Penn State's lost to
Northwestern today. So the losses keep mounting for the nitty
Lyons and James Franklin back to you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
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and Sunday morning right here on Fox Sports Radio and
the I Heart app. Buck just explain this to me,
make this make sense. Why has Indiana been able to
figure out how to build a relevant playoff caliber football
team and Penn State hasn't. Like I don't want to
oversimplify here, but allow me to oversimplify. Penn State just

(01:05:11):
lost their third game of the year. Penn State has
the resources, everything that Indiana has, Penn State has right, So,
how in the hell are we living in a world
right now where Indiana has figured out how to be
competitive year out and year in and year out, and
Penn State hasn't. How are we living in a world
where it just Nebraska can't quite figure it out, Wisconsin
can't figure it out at all, Michigan State can't figure

(01:05:33):
it out at all, Iowa can't figure it out at all.
Like we can go up and down the list of
teams that for years were just they were around the
conversation of quality football programs that now are bordering somewhere
between irrelevant and bad. And I'm watching Indiana just truck
it out here and be like, no, we got to
figure it out.

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
I just so the environment has never been more I mean,
for lack of a better term, ripe to create a
situation like Indiana's, right, Like, you've never had more ability
at your disposal, more tools at your disposal to create
a situation like Indiana's.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
That can be true.

Speaker 3 (01:06:14):
What also can be true is that it is a
very specific confluence of things that have come together at
Indiana to make that successful. Because what did you point
out earlier, Fitzi, when we were talking about coaching, that
there are a great many coaches who are not good
at this, like just generally are below standard. In fact,
there are probably there are more bad coaches working in
college football or high school football or the NFL than good.

(01:06:39):
I think you start to weed things out. I think
there is some level of quality control as you get
to higher levels of college football and pro football. But
still doesn't mean that these people are completely qualified or
beyond reprieve from doing their jobs in a better way.

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
So is Kurt Signetti.

Speaker 3 (01:06:57):
Just because we've seen him, and I understand that he's
had more stop than just Indiana these last two seasons
or this season and a half that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
Needs that he's now on.

Speaker 3 (01:07:06):
But has Kurt Signetti accomplished in his time his short
time in power for football more than James Franklin.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
Well, Okay, I mean it's close. It's close, Like James
Franklin has done things.

Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
Listen, James Franklin had a turn around at Vanderbilt that
should be praised and commended. It got him the job
at Penn State. That's not quite what's happening in Indiana.
But still do we know what the I know Vandery's
moving different these days, but we know what the standard
at football or for football at Vanderbilt has been, and
it has been just horrendously poor, just disinterest, apathy everywhere.

(01:07:42):
James Franklin brought life out of that. He has had
success at Penn State. They were a college football playoff team.
So I think it's a closer conversation. I think the
knee jerk reaction would be to say, yes, Signetti's a
better coach. There's a larger sample size of James Franklin.
I think though, that Signetti has done more for his
program in that short time than James Franklin has at

(01:08:04):
any of his stops. Because of the environment that's now
been created, I'm honestly shocked. And maybe it's just because
I thought Luke Fickele was a better than average coach,
but I'm stunned at how badly things have gone for
him at Wisconsin. I didn't think that Luke fickel was
a bad coach or couldn't adapt to the new world
of college football. I also understand that there's some resources

(01:08:25):
issues at Wisconsin that are probably similar to Arkansas, and
I think Arkansas still has more money. Right, These things
require context for each specific situation. I just think that Indiana,
you're going to have people who try and chase this,
and there will be some people and some programs that
accomplish it at a reasonable level. But what we're watching
is a very very specific thing. Or do you disagree?

Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
No, I think it is a very specific thing, and
it's hard to find a Kurtz Signetti. That's the real
answer here. As much as we laugh about some of
the brazen Google Me moments from last year, and Indiana
wasn't quite to compete with the Notre Dames of the world.
Last year, that's okay. This year they are like, that's
what they proved today, right, And I've often oft said

(01:09:11):
that you have to turn around and thank you, thank
you very much. I've often said, especially in the modern
college football environment, you better take advantage of the year
that you have because with the transfer portal being the
way it is, it's tougher and tougher to sustain anything.
It's tougher and tougher year in and year out to
actually say this is the new norm for this program.
But I do think that when you stack what they

(01:09:33):
did today against Oregon versus what we've seen in over
the course of the last thirteen fourteen months from Indiana,
it's impossible not to catch the conversation differently. I just
I think it is impossible right now not to look
at it and say, Okay, you're right. James Franklin certainly
got Penn State some big wins in the College Football
Playoff last year. I don't want to take anything away

(01:09:53):
from that, but when's the last time you felt like
James Franklin opened a basket of ingredients, had lesser ingredients
and made a better dinner. Than whoever he was cooking
against and chopped, And I feel like there is some
element of that's exactly what Signetti did last year and
now this year. Maybe what I haven't given enough credit to,
to be fair, is maybe the ingredients of baskets in

(01:10:14):
Indiana is a hell of a lot better than I thought. Like,
maybe he's already now he's cooking with the basket of
level ingredients. And if that's the case, Man, if you
could win and you just Monoymano with Oregon, who I
think is a wildly talented football team throughout the course
of that game, and you just go blow for blow
with them, and you go yard for yard with them
over and over and over, Man, it does it changes

(01:10:36):
the way I see how you play football moving forward.

Speaker 3 (01:10:38):
Yeah, And I mean it matters a great deal in
the recruiting landscape, right because their success has been portaling
guys and bringing in vets and finding quarterback play that
would be above average than just your five star coming in, right, Like,
I do think that the opportunity to have a veteran
within the context of college football, a veteran quarterback coming
in there to stabilize things matters as well.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
Also, something that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:00):
We neglected to mention in the middle of that FITSI
Fernando Mendoza is being talked about as potentially one of
the first, if not the first quarterback that can be
taken in the NFL draft, one of the first quarterbacks
that can be taken in this year's NFL draft. And
I know that it's not a stellar NFL draft class
as far as the quarterbacks go, but still that matters here.
So for Signetti, it's to me about and we have

(01:11:26):
this conversation obviously at the pro level too, and I've
been having that conversation a lot because of Brian Callahan's
missteps are his staff's missteps, which ultimately he is responsible for.
How are you a plus on the sideline for your
team as a coach? What makes you an advantage? Do
you know the rule book better than your opposition? Do
you know the rule book as well as the officials?
Do you have the ability to call plays that would

(01:11:48):
make you a plus, that would make you above average
based on your offensive minded head coaches who are there
to assist in certain kind of ways, Like, what it
is it that differentiates you from your competition as the
head coach of a football team? Beyond quote unquote leader
of men, Signetti has done more in that. From my

(01:12:08):
vantage point, he seems to have accomplished more other than
being the rally raw ra guy that James Franklin is.
He seems to have accomplished more in his short time
in helping his team and supporting his team, and that
is in part a reason why they win. But they
have to improve in recruiting. It's the talent profile is
going to be tough. They're never going to compete with

(01:12:29):
the likes of the SEC. But if they can compete
with the Oregon and Ohio State and things like that,
you can turn this into a real thing.

Speaker 1 (01:12:35):
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(01:12:56):
great buddy at ESPN, posted this on this on Twitter
about twenty eight minutes ago. I will read this to
you in its entirety. Indiana has zero five stars, seven
four stars, and according to the two four to seven
Talent Composite, the seventy second most talented roster in the sport,
three spots behind Boston College. That Signetti has built a

(01:13:19):
national contender. There is astounding one of the best coaching
jobs in my lifetime. Dude's a cheat code. Say what
we want, dudes a cheat code. However, he gets him in,
he gets him in, and whatever he's doing with him
is making a hit different because today that did not
look like the seventy second most talented roster in the sport.
Today that looked like if you just took the jerseys off,

(01:13:41):
you would have no damn clue which team was Oregon
and which team was Indiana. And that's a statement to
where Indiana football is. We're gonna play the best game
show in the history of sports talk radio coming up next.
Would you rather hitting me? His buck Rising Up Jason
fitz bucking Fits on Fox Sports Radio Buck Rising. I'm
Jason fitz bucking Fits on Fox Sports Radio. Hanging out

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with you. Been a while day, Penn State loses to Northwestern.
We'll see what that means for James Franklin. That hot
seats only gonna get hotter. Texas beats Oklahoma in the
Red River rivalry, beats the snot out of them, might
I add, And then the big shaker for many, the
shaker for many, Oregon falls to Indiana. So already a

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massive day of consequence all over the place, and we've
barely gotten the night games kicked off. There's explosiveness everywhere.
Keeping eye on that USC Michigan game. That one's gonna
be pretty interesting, good offense versus good defense. But in
the meantime, Buck, it is time for the single greatest
game show in the history of all sports talk radio.
Are you ready? Are you ready, sir? Or we got this?
We got this? We feel good.

Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
I'm ready.

Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
Okay, it's time for.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
Wood wod you you rare?

Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
Yeah? No, what do you mean?

Speaker 9 (01:14:59):
What?

Speaker 1 (01:15:01):
Or fix it?

Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
I think they're delaying us on purpose, that's what they
may sound about on purpose. So fine they they haven't
spoken to us all show. They've just been back there conspiring.

Speaker 1 (01:15:11):
We're finding Ian Mary don't hear a whistle. I don't know.
She just mutant. There's a full mutiny. There's a full
mutiny on the fine system.

Speaker 3 (01:15:23):
The arrogance in his voice when he said, I don't
hear a whistle.

Speaker 1 (01:15:28):
Yeah, that's my dog, the audacity I can. That's right.

Speaker 9 (01:15:35):
All right, let's spin the wheels so we can get
this stupid game started.

Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
Oh, get it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
Over with already enough enough of you.

Speaker 1 (01:15:44):
Too, Okay, I found my own whistle sound effect. I'm
gonna be really, I'm sorry.

Speaker 9 (01:15:50):
Would you would you rather always have to announce your
arrival like a pro wrestler or always have a theme
music fading dramatically every time you sit down?

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
Every time you sit down.

Speaker 9 (01:16:02):
Sit down in a chair.

Speaker 3 (01:16:03):
Yes, that's an odd situation. It's not necessarily offensive. It's
not like you're making an unpleasant sound. It's just theme
music as you sit I think I would like my
presence announced. So I'm announcing my own presence like a
professional wrestler.

Speaker 9 (01:16:21):
Yes, exactly, it's you.

Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
Yeah, I kind of do that anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
I'll take that. No, I want the theme music. I
want to sit down because the theme music fading in
and out makes it feel like after I've sat there's
a moment where you have to honor my presence at
the table, like, Hey, just gonna be thirty music, thirty
seconds of music. We can't talk over it, like this
is my moment. Everybody just takes sat plus. Like as
much as we think about the ring announcers from old
school wrestling, like, that's not what I think of when

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I think of Macha man coming to the ring. I
think of the dun dun dun da da da da
da d d like the popping circumstance thing. That's what
I think. I want that. I want the music to
play when I sit. Also, I liked it it's playing
after I sit, because then, uncomfortably, we all have to
look at each other until the music actually stops. It's
it's just that's great. And then he's like, how was
your day? How was your day?

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:17:05):
Hover, you hover, you don't fully take your seat, so
the music stays a little longer.

Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
Linker, Oh yeah, I like that. I like that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
I like And then if somebody's just really pissing you off,
you just stand up and sit back down in the
middle of them talking because now you know the theme
music is going to come in again. I'm all in
on this. Give it to me it's like a unlessian
doesn't want to do this now since apparently there's a
full mutiny.

Speaker 2 (01:17:24):
What do you got? It's a stupid game. He said
he didn't want to play the game Spin a wheel.

Speaker 1 (01:17:28):
No, I didn't need to get fined for that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
By the way, all this game stupid and there's a
little bit of truth in everything.

Speaker 1 (01:17:34):
All right.

Speaker 9 (01:17:35):
Uh, would you rather your favorite snack always be slightly
stale or your favorite drink always be slightly warm?

Speaker 3 (01:17:44):
I'll say stale. I can get by like stale crackers.
I can live with stale marshmallows. I could live with. Uh,
there's probably more wiggle room with a stale snack than
a warm drink. I don't want a warm dri like
I don't want to warm.

Speaker 9 (01:17:58):
Let's like, coffee is your favorite drink and it's a
little bit of Coffee.

Speaker 3 (01:18:01):
Is my favorite drink by default. It is the thing
by volume that I drink the most of. But like,
sometimes I just want to crisp cold coke diesel and
if it's slightly warmer room temperature, that's just not going
to satisfy me.

Speaker 1 (01:18:15):
Coffee is my favorite drink too, but iced coffee is
all I drink. You around, even when it's you know,
two feet of snow in Connecticut, I'm still drinking iced
coffee in between shovel it out, so like, yeah, n freaks,
give me, give me all day, every day. I'll take
the stale snacks. Also, I was a fat kid growing up,
Like I shovel snacks like a fat kin. I'm not
chewing it long enough to find out exactly how stale

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it is, Like I am just I am shoveling that,
Like I shouldn't go hidyan, let's get another one here
unless you don't help it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
We're protesting you, yeah, showing him.

Speaker 9 (01:18:48):
Okay, would you rather only be able to whisper compliments
and shout apologies or the other way around, only be
able to shout compliments and whisper apologies?

Speaker 1 (01:18:57):
No, look, actually, you know what, I want to whisper
apologies because I don't want the person i'm apologizing to
to know if I'm actually sincere. So if I have
to walk up and say I'm so sorry I called
you fat today, that's just feels creepy enough, but I'm
in on that.

Speaker 3 (01:19:13):
What do you think a whisper apologies? I don't like
to apologize. I would like my apologies to be as
minimal as humanly possible. I'm sensing a theme here, but.

Speaker 9 (01:19:22):
Through shouting compliments. With that option though, because so then
it's like when you tell someone they look nice today.
You're shouting it for the whole room to hear, would you.

Speaker 3 (01:19:29):
If they are in the compliment, then that means they
deserve it. I'll shout it from the rooftops.

Speaker 1 (01:19:33):
All I know is I'm only whispering to Ian for
the rest of the show. Have a great night, I
appreciate it. Come back next week. More bucking fits