Buck & Fitz React to Vanderbilt Beating LSU, Georgia Beating Ole Miss, Ohtani's Masterpiece & More!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio radio. You can't be
surprised that Vandy beat LSU. They were favored to beat LSU.
I don't really think you can be shocked by the outcome.
But you are allowed today to be shocked by the
one thing that we saw that I don't think any
of us really expected. No matter how big a Vandy

(00:21):
fan you might be, no matter how big an LSU
hater you might be, that was a dominant performance. And
that was a performance that tells us right now, no
matter what the level of the label is on the chest,
no matter what the logo is on the helmet, Vandy
looks like they can be competing for the college football Playoff.
He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitz. It's Bucking fits on

(00:42):
Fox Sports Radio. And this is where you laugh at me.
Everybody laughs at me. They're like, no, Vandy, No, come on,
there's no way Vandy gets the college football Playoff. I'll
remind you Vandy now sitting here, Buck, They're sitting here
with one loss, and that one loss is a road
loss to Alabama, which the committee is going to consider
a very good loss. Right, They're gonna look at it.
They're gonna say it's one of those those quality losses.
Is the college Football Playoff Committee likes to sort of

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hang their hat on when they meet for the first
time in I don't know what a week and a half.
So we're gonna see and we're gonna find out quickly.
But if you believe that LSU could have won out
and made the college Football Playoff, then today you have
to believe that that's Vandy at this point. The way
Vandy won today, not just because Diego Bobby has been
a great story, but the way Vandy one completely dominant

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and capable of running their offense in every way, shape
or form that they could ever want against an LSU
defense that was supposed to be very very good, has
me just stepping back and saying, is it fair to
say this year's Indiana is Vanderbilt?

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Oh, this year's Indiana.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
This year's Indiana Indiana about to be the number two
team in the country. Baby Vanderbilt cooking all in all cylinders.
You got Virginia pushing for a college football playoff spot.
What is this new world college football order that we
have found ourselves in. This is the best college ball
has ever been I think in my lifetime just because
of the unknown, the uncertainty, and the delightful new arrivals

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for lack of a better term, but Pobby will tell
you they've been there the whole time. It's a really
cool story. It's good to be back on with you guys.
And it's a really cool day here in Nashville, Tennessee
because where I'm broadcasting from, FITZI somewhere in the wilds
of Connecticut, the rest of the crew hanging out in
Los Angeles today. It is a really cool day in Nashville,
Tennessee because Vandy has put their stamp on this thing,

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and they have shown what they can do and how
they can operate when the talent profile is not what
you would say is a top twenty team or a
top fifteen team, or hell about to be a top
ten team potentially at this point in time, against quality
opponents who they have been down trodden by for so
many years. Did you see Nick Saban on game day today, FITZI,

(02:57):
when they did the picks with our dear friend and
Collige jelly Roll, Nashville native up there representing with herb Street,
who does also live here. Nick Saban refused to pick Vanderbilt.
He picked LSU. He's just got I don't, I don't.
I can't wrap my mind. And I'm paraphrasing here a
little bit. But Saban's whole point in picking LSU was one,
they have better players, or they should have better players.

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They got more talented players. And two, I've looked at
Vandy as the dorm out of the SEC my entire career.
If you're Nick Saban, well guess what, buddy, your career
is over, and Clark Lees is here and Diego Pavias
is here, and Vanderbilt is building a very very strong
case for the college football playoff. How about Brian Kelly,

(03:39):
By the way, How's how are LSU fans feeling today?

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Because it is one thing.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Two fans are begging for him to take that Penn
State job. Like I keep seeing all this. You know,
Penn State's gonna make Brett Brian Kelly an offer. LSU
fans are saying, cool, cood with me, get up, don't
let the door hit you on the way out, buddy.
Like the the funny thing is I mean you mentioned
jelly roll. I'll make a music analogy. I was told
years ago that there's two times you play like the

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Indiana State Fair on the way up and on the
way down and on the way up. Boy, doesn't feel good.
You're like, man, we're playing the Indiana State Fair. This
thing's sold up. On the way down. You're like, man,
I was playing Arenas, now I'm playing the Indiana State Fair.
This doesn't feel all that great. I mean, it isn't
this game an exact example of this. LSU feels like, man,
we're supposed to be way above where our record is.

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So where they sit right now, even if they're still
sort of in the thicket things that have football ahead
of them, their fans don't feel like it. And Vandy
fans are turning around, they're like, WHOA, welcome to the party.
Like Mandy fans that first they're having that first time
that you got invited to do the keg stand. You
don't really know how to handle the kegstand. You're just
gonna do the best can to get through the keg stand.
Like that's Vandy right now.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Well it's appropriate because Vanderbilt, you know, I mean, the
student population is new to this whole thing.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Again.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
It's like my alma mater, Indiana. I wouldn't have survived
college if we were good at football?

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 3 (04:56):
Look, vander Vil Fairs, I don't know what to do
is spending their Saturday afternoons to the library. What do
you mean we got to go to a football game?
What do you mean we're better than LSU? What do
you mean we could compete with Alabama until our quarterback
turned it over on the road in a big spot.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
But still six and one.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
Now Vanderbilt thirty one to twenty four to the final
out there on West End here in Nashville. And it
is a situation where now you look at the rest
of their schedule and you say, will they be favored
the rest of the way through? Because Tennessee has a
very important game today going down to Tuscaloosa playing Alabama
that's critical for both teams and their college football playoff resume.

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Tennessee doesn't expect to be, or wasn't expecting to be
in this situation, and they find themselves in an interesting situation,
this playoff selection. As we get closer and closer to
that time of year, FITZI is going to be fascinating
given the type of teams here. But I almost don't
want to go along with your analogy that Vanderbilt twenty

(05:54):
twenty five Vanderbilt is this year's Indiana because Vandy was
showing this last.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Year, Indiana just exploded on the scene.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
Vanderbilt exploded on the scene is not quite the phrase
you would use there, But they had the biggest upset
in college I mean, I might argue, damn near in
college football history last year hosting Alabama and being able
to get that job done in a way that was
as cool a scene as you will find anywhere in

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the sport. So Vandy just ratifying that last year wasn't
a fluke as opposed to Indiana, who is one of
the most improbable, just outright sports stories of my lifetime.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
I'm not going to sit here, and I think where Indiana,
by the way, deserves a different level of conversation is
to do it again this year with a lot of
different people on that team. Like I think Kurt Signetti
has shown you that he's actually built a program. Clark
Lee is going to have to do this with the
quarterback not named Diego Pavia before he'll get that benefit
of the doubt. I just we got to see somebody

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else before, otherwise I will remind everybody which as people
fell in love with it when it happened. Mel Tucker
got a ten year, one hundred million dollar deal because
he had a great year at Michigan State. It turns
out Kenneth Walker the third was a cheat code that
helped them win a lot of football games. They shouldn't.
I like to see it sustained through multiple classes before
I'll say that somebody absolutely belongs permanently in this infrastructure

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of like whatever the new college football landscape is. But
it is interesting to me that we now are in
a world where I'm sitting here trying to figure out,
like LSU, who just isn't good enough? Okay, Michigan fans
or even on a win, Michigan fans are still sitting
there saying We're not good enough. But then you've got
Indiana over here, You've got Vandy over here, You've got
Georgia techt it's the number twelve team in the country.

(07:38):
In case anybody isn't paying attention, Like, it is interesting
to me that we're seeing typical brands, typical powerhouses in
the modern college football landscape feel like they've lost a
step when I'm looking at it and saying, Well, it
can't just be the acquisition of talent. It can't just
be the acquisition of smart football people, because Vandy and
Indiana have figured that out. So it's just it's weird

(08:00):
to me to see some of the brands that are
struggling versus some of the brands that are not in
this modern landscape.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
I don't think you could recreate a lot of these
situations if you tried, you know what I'm saying. Like
the combination of Diego Pavia and Jerry Kill, the offensive
coordinator Vanderbilt, coming over together at the same time as
Clark Lee is working to build a program that's a
very unique set of circumstances. Pave I mean, hell, Pavia
may legislate to try and get a seventh year in

(08:26):
college football.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
By the season, God, give it to give, That's what
I'm saying. And c I don't care if the guy
wants twenty five years, give them all the years.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
It's gonna be a forty five year old super senior
Van Wilder out there quarterbacking the Commodorees. But like think
about it, it's a very very unique set of circumstances
that had to come together at the just exact right
time for Vanderbilt to be able to do this. Now,
to your point, what Clark Lee and his program are
going to look like in the post Pavia era, whenever

(08:53):
it is that we do arrive at the post Pavia era,
is going to be a story that's worth documenting Indiana.
And I don't know that you could recreate a situation
like Indiana if you tried, because in what world would
somebody look at a guy who's sixty one years old,
who spent his most recent coaching tenure at James Madison

(09:14):
University turning them into a formidable football program, going to Indiana,
a place that has more losses in college football than
any other D one program in the history of the sport,
and turning it into a perpetual college football playoff contender,
to the point where Indiana is spending eleven million plus

(09:34):
a year on a football coach, like it's in insanity.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
To that point in twenty twenty three, I saw this
the other day. He made six hundred and seventy three
thousand dollars as the head coach of James Madison. Then
he gets the Indiana job for about three million. In
twenty twenty four, they quickly give him a raise to
eight million. Now he's making an eleven point three, like.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Keep to three.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Who in the hell, like, raise your hand? If you
saw this coming in, then keep your hand up so
the whole knows who the liars in the room are. Like,
there's just nobody that ever could have predicted this.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
With me, I was always a believer in Kurt Signetti.
What are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Bad?

Speaker 1 (10:08):
My bad Kurts team Signetti Like, but that's the magic
of it. And by the way, it's the magic of
the college football landscape that currently Indiana is a better
job than Penn State, Like, there is no reason I
would leave if I'm Kurt Signetti. Why would I leave
Indiana for Penn State? What does Penn State have that
I don't I got enough money. I got basically the
same operating budget between the two schools. When you're looking

(10:31):
at the only reason you could give me that one
is a better job than the other is the cachet
that comes with the brand. And I don't think in
the modern college football climate, any of the kids you're
recruiting give a damn about the brand. I think at
the end of the day, they just want to go
where they can make money and try and get to
the pros.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
I'm going to disagree with you solely from this standpoint,
and it was a big It was a big reason. Listen,
James Franklin got fired, and that is what it is.
And Penn State has obviously moved in a different direction
or will soon be moved in a different direction. It's
an interesting look at the current state of college football
where you can go from competing as a top five

(11:08):
football program, a top five ranked football program in a
game against another top five football program Penn State Oregon,
and all of a sudden, three weeks later later, you're fired,
Like it's nonsense that that is currently the environment of
college sports, just generally. But the reason why I would
still probably lean Penn State FITZI is because the talent profile,
the talent pool in state talent pool is just easier

(11:31):
to pull from in Pennsylvania versus Indiana, just as far
as college football and looking at the two four to
seven composites and the recruiting rankings and things like that, like,
if you are going to recruit your state, Pennsylvania is
superior to Indiana at this point in time. But if
that's the only thing that I can find, like, that's insane,
That's absolutely insane. And if you get the right coach who,

(11:52):
to your point, is going to make kids want to
play and parents want their kids to play more for you,
as opposed to the brand that they've associated their you know,
their college football aspirations with their entire lifetimes or their parents'
entire lifetimes, then yeah, you've broken through that fourth rail.
It's it's awesome. This is my favorite version of college

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football ever. I know that we have talked about the
diehards and the people who are not willing to be
dragged into the future with all of the and it
has been uncomfortable right to arrive at this kind of
a point and to still have so much uncertainty around
the future of college sports.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
But damn if it isn't fun, one.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
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updated on Ole Miss and Georgia. Huge game with the

(12:53):
big outcome for today, it's coming down to the wire.
We'll update you on that, plus a philosophical question of
exactly what we want out of this year's college football.
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time with you on this incredible Saturday of college football action.
Georgia has scored, so we now have a thirty five
to thirty three game in the fourth quarter. For those
of you keeping track at home, the scorer is thirty

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five thirty three. The combined number of punts in this
game is still zero. Neither team has actually punted at all,
so the concept of defense it continues to be dead
in college football. We'll get back to that game in
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Speaker 1 (14:34):
Today it's Strauss dot Com. That's s t R a
Uss Strauss dot Com. And it comes to my mind
because I don't know if anybody noticed this, but there
was a guy named Shoe Hay last night that seemed
to have a fairly decent baseball game. As the Dodgers
win and clinch their way to the World Series. And
I say all of this in jest. Shoe Hay is
doing something that I'm pretty sure we can safely see. Now,

(14:55):
buck Lake, I caution this. I am not a seam
head through and through. I am not baseball historian. So
when I say that he's doing something we've never seen before,
there's some guy that's gonna just run to Twitter and
be like, well, actually, oh, Reggie Jackson and nine like,
I don't give a damn about you if that, if
you're that person that's doing it, stop your thumbs. I'm
not going to read your tweet anyway, as far as
I'm concerned. It's the best.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
He'll definitely read your tweet, and he'll definitely respond, and
it'll definitely get a little sassy with you.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
Well, one or two things. I either respond or I
just mute. But when I respond, this is the most
important move. The harsher my response the faster I am
to then mute, so I never see what the person
has to say. So usually when I make your mom
joke to somebody, I've then muted it and I can't
see anything that they have to say.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
After out onto the internet and then scurry away quickly.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Yeah, see there's no real comeback to that, because anybody
that's had trauma with their mom like it doesn't I
have my own trauma, so like there is no there's
no recourse to it. All right, So can we agree
that the single greatest night in baseball history? Can we
go there? Buck? Are we allowed to say that? Now?
If you're looking at it, I think it was in
the fourth inning at one point show Hey had more
hits than he'd given up at that point. So you

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just talk about the most dominant performance we can remember
of any athlete maybe in any sport in a very
long time.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
It was incredible to watch six score listennings and he
struck out ten. He also had the thirteenth three homer
game in postseason history, the first, as it was noted
in Chelsea Jane's great piece in the Washington Post earlier today, which,
by the way, just such a cool thing to see
people still doing high level sports riding on deadline that way,

(16:32):
Like well done by Chelsea Janes. It was one of
the coolest games I've ever seen in my life, one
of the coolest performances that I've ever seen in my life.
And again to your point, Fitzy, we are not a
baseball show historically. I know that we are, at least
on a week by week basis still new to the lineup.
But since we've been doing this, both of us kind
of look at each other and say, yeah, baseball. I

(16:52):
don't know if we're gonna do that. Because I'm you know,
I'm thirty two. I can give a damn about baseball
my entire life. I check in in the postsea in
just to see, Oh, that's fun. The Mariners are in
the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Who's who? You know this?

Speaker 3 (17:04):
This is kind of my curiosity as opposed to a
high level of interest.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
But he he is.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
So spectacular, so above and beyond spectacular, that you have
to stop whatever you are doing if you are in
the same room as a television set, sit down and
watch him perform.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
He is at some.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
Point going to be considered the greatest player in baseball
history for the things that he is able to do
on both sides of the ball. There and I can't
even begin to imagine what it's like to be a
Dodgers fan. I know Ian and Mary are in Los Angeles.
I don't know if either of you have rooting allegiances,
and Shane's the only like public Dodgers fan, right.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
Yeah, I am not right.

Speaker 6 (17:44):
We have a lot of them here, like Patrick and yeah,
like you said, Shae bo Bursch, I'm not but not
not Ian not not like do we have any allegiances, y'all?
I mean I grew up rooting for the Yankees when
I lived in New York, and then we moved and
then I was a Giants fan, and then I yeah,
I've just never been a huge baseball guy. I played,
but never rooted for it that hard.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
Mary Mack, I'm a.

Speaker 5 (18:05):
Lions fan, or a Lions I'm a Tigers fan. But
the only reason I'll be a Dodger homer is only
because the Dodgers do have the first sad Sinanies player
on their like minor league.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
So okay, we love.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
I've got a very good friend. Shout out to my
buddy Geo, lifelong diehard Dodgers fan. So last year I
would go to the Dive bar down the road and
watch all the Dodgers games with him, and I proclaimed
at the beginning of the playoffs in his honor that
I would become a diehard Dodgers fan, which means I
watched during the playoffs, And that's about as far as
my diehard Dodger fan goes. But I'd like to think
that I'm the chef's kiss. The whole reason that it

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finally turned around for the Dodgers is that I decided they.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
Were gonna bet their counting rageous payroll, not not like
gobs and gobs of money that they're spending. You get
to the eighth guy in their lineup and you're like,
wasn't that guy like an MVP Canada a couple of
years ago.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
I mean, look, at some point, though, this is where
I would say to baseball fans, when you want to
talk about the gobs and gobs of money respectfully, I
kiss my butt because here's the thing, Like, it's the
same group of people that were sitting there saying, oh,
they are wasting show hey with the Angels, and when
are they gonna finally find like, Okay, So then he
goes to a team where he's not wasted. He becomes
exactly what Major League Baseball needs, the absolute face of

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the league, the transcendent star that stops everybody in their tracks.
And now you're like, but the Dodgers spend too much money.
I don't Like, that's always the argument. If you're a
baseball guy and you yell at me that the Dodgers
spend too much money, I laugh in your face because
at the end of the day, what you're really telling
me is that you're jealous. Because if your answer is
my team can't spend that money, google the net worth
of your favorite team's owner. Your favorite team can spend

(19:37):
that money. Your favorite team chooses not to spend that money.
So don't be jealous just because the Dodgers have figured
out that they can spend whatever they want win because
of it. Like I just at some point just accept
the fact that they're doing what you wish your favorite
team would do, spend copious amounts of money to do
whatever it takes to win a championship. Uh.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
Can you imagine being an Angels fan and like down
the road, the Angels fan are going to have children,
and they're going to take their children to Angels games,
and they're going to be explaining the history of the
sport and the history of the roster, and they're going
to tell their kids, well, yes, Mike Trout and show Heyotani,
we're both on our team at the same time, and
we were still terrible like that is just an unrelenting hell.

(20:16):
Uh to possibly imagine and it's the truth.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
But you see what Shoe Hao Tani has been able
to do. Uh.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
And now Los Angeles again is reaping the rewards of
having one of the biggest payrolls in Major League Baseball.
I don't fault people for having more money than other people.
It's how you spend it. It's the willingness to spend
it to your point fitsie and to feel a competitive
product or a superior product year in and year out.
It's and you know, to give us all a show
to see that guy competing at the highest possible level

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because he's finally surrounded by the kind of team that's
going to give him an opportunity to compete for championships.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
Yeah, at the end of the day, let's remind everybody that,
according to AI, Milwaukee Brewers owner Mark Anton and Tennis
COO I don't know is estimated to be worth around
one point nine billion dollars. So you know what, if
you're worth a couple of billion dollars, you can spend
whatever you want. Also, even if you're not, there's not
a bank in the world that won't give a professional
sports team alone. I'm just saying, there's not a bank

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in the world that won't help you find the money
if you need the money. So if your answer is
they're spending away with championship, just be honest and tell
everybody you're jealous that your team didn't do it. Let's
get an update on what's going on across the landscape.
We finally got a punt and I can tell you
that Ole Miss finally had to punt. Georgia with the ball. Martin,
get everybody caught up. What's going on right now? Yeah,
it's been defense optional in Athens.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Right now.

Speaker 8 (21:35):
It's thirty five, thirty three, five fifth ranth old Miss
in the lead right here with just under eight minutes
left in the fourth quarter. Like I think you just said,
Fitz Georgia with the ball, looking to try to score
here second and five.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
Keep you updated on that one.

Speaker 8 (21:51):
Not much to update in terms of number one team
Ohio State in their competition today, thirty four to nothing
over Wisconsin just under six minute left in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
Indiana and Michigan State.

Speaker 8 (22:03):
This game hit a rain delay for a little bit,
but afterwards it was all Hoosiers fourteen points unanswered in
the second half, thus far thirty five to ten to
score for the third ranked team in.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
The nation in the lead.

Speaker 8 (22:13):
Undefeated on the year, Indiana is Michigan State winless in
the Big Ten again. Let's see oh I was in
the state sixteenth to seven over Texas Tech. Seventh ranked
Texas Tech is undefeated Arizona State two and one in
Big twelve play. And this is something brewing right here
in Memphis right undefeated twenty second ranked team in the nation,
the Tigers trailing UAB twenty four to seventeen. UAB on

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an interim head coach after Trent Dover was fired earlier
this week, thirteen minutes left in the fourth quarter, there
fourth ranked Texas A and M with a fourteen to
six lead over Arkansas, just under ten minutes left in
the first half. That game was in a ragin delay
for quite some time. Earlier today we saw Vanderbilt beat
LSU thirty one to twenty four. Diego Pavia had three

(22:58):
total touchdowns, So Yellowjackets. Georgia Tech undefeated, the twelve frank
team in the nation, taking down Duke twenty seven to eighteen,
and fourteenth Oklahoma bounced back with a twenty six to
seven win over South Carolina. Michigan got in win over
Washington twenty four to seven. Houston now six and won
three on one A Conference play with a thirty one

(23:19):
to twenty eight win over Arizona, and just punched in
that touchdown for Georgia. That's fourteen unanswered thus far in
the fourth quarter to take the lead for the Bulldogs
forty to thirty five for the Bulldogs in the lead
now over ole Miss just under seven thirty left in
the fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Back to you guys, Yeah, that touchdown is huge. There's
not a lot of time left, and like I said,
Ole Miss just punted for the first time in this
whole game leading up to that score, So we'll see
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you a philosophical question. Okay, So we all have these
group chats that we hang out with, right, and so
I've got a group chat with a couple of buddies

(24:18):
that are big college football fans. And it's hysterical to
me as I read this because one of them is
a big Michigan fan, and so this guy's kind of
always falling for the Michigan fan. And you know, today
in a big win, and we were just having our
chat and I said, man, Vandy's legit. They could go
to the college football playoff And I immediately got the response, no,
they're not legit. Like, there's no way Vandy is legit,
which started a whole conversation about what is legit. And

(24:42):
this is where I think you mentioned earlier. It's maybe
this is my favorite year. I've been covering college football
at a professional level for almost a decade. This is
my favorite year I've ever covered because I just think
it is so chaotic, right, I love every second of this.
But there is a question of like, to me, legit means, hey,
this team could go to the playoffs and actually sneak
out a win, like if they were capable of winning

(25:03):
a game of the college football Playoff, they're legit. But
I think there also has to be a recalibration, like
a playoff team today may not look the way we
feel like a playoff team was supposed to look three
or four years ago, right, Like it used to feel
like the best of the best of the best got in.
Now it feels like, you know, there's just a lot
of parody. So pretty good teams are going to battle
pretty good team So for me, I think this is

(25:23):
really exciting. But the question is like, are you actually
legit if you're not really in the same caliber of
an Ohio State, but you are a playoff team. I
don't know how to couch those teams.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
That's an interesting conversation.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
I think you quite welcome, I am. You know, this
was kind of the discussion for us, at least down
here in the Southeast about the college football playoff when
expand when it expanded, Like, what was it actually going
to change to expand the college football playoff picture? If

(25:58):
you still expect the best teams at the end of
the day to be in the final four, to handle
the first round teams to handle the SMUs the Indiana's
of that ILK at that point in time, to still
have a champion that ends up being Ohio State. Who
I mean, is this all going to be for not?
Is all the fun of the college football playoff discourse

(26:20):
in twenty twenty five going to be for not? If
Ohio State just goes back to back the way that
they probably are going to be fair, They're going to
be favored, I would imagine against anybody no matter how
the college Football Playoff field ends up playing out here
in the next couple of weeks. As we get closer
and closer to those selections, it does feel like at
the end of the day, we're still going to be

(26:41):
talking about Ohio State, but beyond that, like who else is?
Who else looks like that pre eminent college football program
right now FITSI Because Oregon just lost to Indiana last weekend,
we talked about this or Indiana and Michigan State are

(27:02):
currently in a weather delay, but the expectation is that
Indiana will continue to hold serve, they'll be able to
win today and they'll become the number two team in
the country after this.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Oregon should have insanity.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
Oregon should be considered in that conversation prior to that
Indiana game, but they got handled in the second half.
Georgia is leading right now forty to thirty five against
Ole Miss in the fourth quarter. But Georgia doesn't have
defense this year, which is like been their superpower under
Kirby Smart year in and year out. What am I

(27:35):
to do with Alabama after that Florida State loss? And
I understand it was the first week of the season,
but like, how much more mortal does Florida State look
at this point in time? And what is the result
of this Tennessee game this evening going to be I
don't know beyond Ohio State, who is who should be
considered the best of the best because the current state

(27:55):
of college football has upended all of those best programs
except Notre Dame in USC is going to be an
interesting one there today as well in South Bend because
Notre Dame, after their tough start, kind of slugging through
the rest of their schedule to try and get back
into the college football playoff picture. Looks like one of
these teams that should be talked about.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
CJ.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
Carr is excellent or has been excellent up until this
point and then Miami poop in the bed last night
against Louisville. Carson Beck, what the hell? Now, who do
we trust?

Speaker 1 (28:24):
I mean, to your point, Buck, Like, Okay, Ohio State
is great, and you know what, I logo be damned.
I don't care. Let's just say it. Indiana right now
is a great football team. Right so, I think I
think Ohio State is great. I think Indiana is great.
I think Oregon, even in a loss to Indiana that
like that looks like a pretty damn good loss. Right now,
I think Oregon is still a very good football team.

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I wanted to trust Ole Miss, who, by the way,
just dropped what could have been a huge play on
third down and they're about to give the ball back
to Georgia. That's a tough catch, trailing it's it's a
tough catch, but you got to make it, got both
hands on the ball.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
Come on, what do we do?

Speaker 1 (28:58):
So maybe the one school he didn't mention with Texas
A and M Texas A and M Baby belongs in
this conversation. But I don't know. I just think that's
part of what maybe.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
Even in them, FITZI, I don't trust them on offense,
they're two up and down.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
One hundred percent. So now we end up with this
really weird Okay, if we're really saying who out there
is legit, who's a legitimate national championship contender, well, Ohio State, Indiana,
I personally would still put organ in that conversation. I
don't know what to make in Miami. I don't know
what to make of most of the rest of the
top ten. I think part of what's beautiful about it

(29:31):
right now is we just we just basically don't we
just basically don't know at this point. Now you mentioned Miami.
I want to get to this Carson Beck, and I
want your thoughts on it. Carson Beck had plenty to
say because for anyone that didn't see the game last night,
he threw four interceptions, including a bad interception on the
final drive that really, you know, they were driving to
try and make something happen. They couldn't get it to happen,

(29:53):
and this happened at the podium afterwards, checked us out.
Listen to the entire thing because it starts out fine
and then it goes off the reels.

Speaker 9 (30:00):
For Carson Beck, we had a miscommunication with the route
and what we were doing, so ran the route wrong
and I went to go through it because we're hot
off of the pressure, and again he made a good
play on it. So but it definitely didn't help that
we ran the wrong play.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
I mean, it definitely didn't help that we ran the
wrong play.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
Yeah, I was with him until that very last just
little snide comment, right, And I don't know because it
went from explanation to oh no, it's that guy's fault.
Because it's a fine explanation, it's a completely reasonable explanation.
I think people, you know, can get caught up in
the context or without the context and just box score
watch and you would look at Carson Beck and four

(30:41):
interceptions and not understand that two of those interceptions were
tip drills. And if he's saying that the receiver ran
the incorrect route on the final interception, then it puts
Carson Beck's performance into a little different perspective. And I
get it. Listen, he has too many of those performances,
at least if you're talking about like NFL evaluations around
Carson Beck. And that's not the purpose of this discussion,

(31:01):
but still like he's he still has some inconsistencies to
his game that would make you wary of him as
a draft prospect, but just just you were doing so well,
or at least you don't have to look like a
jerk until that final sentence. It would help if we
ran the right play like you can't. You can't be

(31:22):
leader guy and take out your teammates. That way, you
can still be explaining what went wrong there in a
reasonable fashion without having to throw a guy under the bus.
And that's you know, whether he meant to or not.
I get people get caught up in a caught up
in a moment, moment when they're at the podium. I mean, hell,
I just a couple of weeks ago witness cam Ward
call an entire franchise ass. Turns out he's right.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
But.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
You know, it can be easy to get caught up
in the moment and then after the fact being like, oh,
I didn't mean to say that, or I've said too
much in that specific instance. But yeah, man, it's it's
just a really really bad look for him.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
Yeah, and point, if you're Miami, you're sort of reeling.
I will say this, Louisville's a better football team than
people were giving them credit for. There is no doubt
in my mind about that I understand they weren't ranked.
I understand Louisville's a better football team than they were
getting credit for. So I didn't think the last night's
loss was necessarily a catastrophic end of the world, but
it speaks to the fact that I just I think

(32:21):
we talk all the time about how the college football
world is becoming the NFL world. I will remind everybody
that very few people in the world seem to be
rooting for an undefeated New England Patriots team in a
Super Bowl against a wildcard Giants team that barely made
the playoffs, So everybody wanted the chaos of that Giants
team doing the impossible. That just feels like where we
are headed in this landscape of modern college football as well.

(32:45):
It's not going to be about being the best. It's
going to be about being the last team standing at
the end of the year, which is chaos that I
absolutely love. We'll get you caught up on the scores
happening across the landscape, coming up and trying to figure
out when the right time is to figure out how
to move on from your coach. Do it next? He's
buck rising up. Jason fitz Bucking fits I'm Fox Sports Radio.

(33:08):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. He's Buck Rising.
I'm Jason Fitz hanging out with you, bucking fits on
Fox Sports Radio. Georgia with the ball, third and three,
driving up by five, with two minutes and fourteen seconds left.
This feels like this is obviously gonna be the most
important play of the season so far for Ole Miss.

(33:30):
Can they get a stop? And really the grossest part
of this game, as you have a forty to thirty
five lead for Georgia right now, the grossest part is
that Georgia has over five hundred yards of offense. Like
there has just been no defense at all in this game, Buck,
And it's like these are both playoff teams. I believe
they're both playoffs. But but if we sit here and
say defense wins championships, I don't know in the modern

(33:52):
college football landscape how true that is. Now Ole Miss
gets a big stop, they are forcing a fourth down,
they're taking a time out, so that's going to force
a field goal attempt by Georgia. If they make it,
they'll be up by eight a touchdown and a two
point conversion. Reminder, almost has no timeout, slept, but they
will have the two minute whatever two minute timeouts since
college football refuses to call it the two minute warning.

(34:13):
Like the children they are.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
You know, the whole defense wins championships. Mantra is probably
a little bit overrated, but it can certainly give you
a chance to compete. FITZI think about this, like, they
almost can't get a stop and it is going to
cost them a game by eight points on the road
in the SEC against a program that is gettable right now.
Georgia is gettable, and I understand that they put up

(34:38):
forty today in a big spot against another college football
playoff team that both of these teams I would expect
to see in the college football playoff picture as we
get closer and closer to that.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Kind of stuff.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
But you have to have a shred of defense. It's
just like a moment of defense. It doesn't have to
outright win you the championship. I think, honestly, that's more
true in the NFL, where you're just going to give
your offense more and more opportunities if you can suffocate
an opponent, if you can just bludgeon Patrick Mahomes in
a Super Bowl and get your offense the opportunity to
get back out on the field. But where points are

(35:10):
scored at will, where you know, a two two minutes
left on the clock is more than enough time for
both teams to score another touchdown in college football offenses
generated you know, NonStop forty three thirty five. Now, with
Georgia making that field goal two oh six left to
play in the fourth quarter there in Athens, Ole Miss

(35:31):
is probably going to fall in this spot, but we
will let these.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Fighting touchdown in a two point conversion touchdown in two
By the way, the snap was low. It was hell
of a job by the holder getting that ball up
and getting it ready. And the kicker has a weird
swaggy mustache. Can kickers have swaggy mustaches? Is Jenny?

Speaker 2 (35:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (35:48):
What was what was old boys name from Georgia blanket Ship,
Rodrigo Blake?

Speaker 1 (35:52):
Yeah, But Rodrigo was like, I like, he's an interesting
and I mean that in a really good way, like
he's a really cool, interesting guy. He can have that
he swaggy.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
You don't know that this kicker does. It isn't cool,
it's interesting. Also, Ole Miss has one fourth quarter yard.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
One fourth quarter yard. I think that's the most disappointing
part of this game for ole Miss is it they
were up by nine, right like, their defense melted down
throughout the entire game, but their offense couldn't do any
The reason they're in this situation is because, as we
came to air an hour ago, I said, there hadn't
been a single punt in this game. The reason this
is now an eight point lead for Georgia is because

(36:29):
ole Miss is punted twice in the fourth quarter. When
they needed their offense the most, they couldn't get it,
Which is why to your what the point you were making,
I don't think defense wins championships in college football anymore.
I do think the ability to make big plays when
you need them most is a huge part of it.
Like you're just gonna have to suffer through the madness,
But if you can get a stop when you really

(36:50):
need a stop, that's all the difference you could ask for.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
I just saw the mustache, and I don't love the
style of mustard. It's a little furer esque to me.
I don't know, that's not my not my favorite.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
I mean, I just better better mustache me or that kicker.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
Oh you by far? Yeah, much better mustache. Your mustache
says I've seen some things in Lower broad beat me
this week Lower Broadway in Nashville. His mustache says, I
can't get within two hundred yards of a school. Let's
just be honest, like it's a weird it's a it's
a it's a weird mustache. I'm just saying eight point
three right now for Georgia in this uh. And I
think again, like the hardest part about this is I

(37:31):
don't want to I don't want to over simplify, but
like this is where everybody Monday is going to lose
their minds, right, like what everybody tomorrow is going to
lose their minds about what's this mean? And honestly, what
this means is we got to see a really exciting
football game. I don't know if it was a good
football game. We got to see an exciting football game.
But I to your point, Bulk, I think these are
both college football playoff teams. I think we're these are

(37:51):
both teams that have their entire season in front of them.
So to the winner or the loser, it's like cool,
like you just you put it behind you and you
go to see next week. Like I think that's what
I love and I realized drive some fans crazy. But
what I love about this game is that it was
a great football game and we do have a legitimate
chance that we might see it again at some point,
and the SEC in this process becomes a complete and

(38:13):
utter disaster. Like trying to figure out who's good in
the SEC right now is a wild problem.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
Yeah, I mean, and that again, we're awaiting kickoff here
in about forty five minutes between Tennessee and Georgia. Another
Top fifteen matchup between two Tennessee and Alabama, excuse me
down there in Tuscaloosa. That is going to be a
fascinating game because, in the same way that we're not
quite sure about the best in the SEC at this

(38:42):
point in time, there's a lot of conversation about who
the best quarterback in college football is. For Nana Mendoza
is going to be the odds on favorite, has been
the odds on favorite for a couple of weeks now
to be the number one overall pick in the NFL
draft or the first quarterback taken maybe in the NFL draft,
although I'm sure as odds to go number one overall
have improved on a basis. Ty Simpson looks like the

(39:02):
best quarterback in the SEC at this point in time
based on and you and I have had this discussion
at nauseum based on preseason expectations and how much higher
we were on Lenora's Cellars and Arch Manning and all
these other names that we talked about coming into the season.
Where Ty Simpson has been at Alabama longer than any
of them have been at their respective programs. He's gutted

(39:23):
it out, He's waited for his opportunity. He had a
slip and fall type of situation against Florida State to
start a season, and since then he's been excellent. Now
Missouri gave him a hell of a time with the
best pass rush that I think Alabama has seen so
far this season last week, and ultimately they were able
to outlast the Tigers. But it is the definition of
a blood bath right now in the SEC, and again,

(39:46):
I love it. I am so tired of one program
dominating everything.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
As we sit right now. If this result holds, Almost
will take their first loss in Texas, A and M
will be the last team left in the SEC with
no losses and conference losses. So trying to figure out
how it plays to the playoffs. Is gonna be wild.
We'll get you updated on what happens coming up next.
He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason fitz bucking fits on Fox
Sports Radio. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Ole Miss

(40:14):
is just lost to Georgia and he's Buck Rising. I'm
Jason fitz buck. This is where I'm gonna tell the
whole world. Today is exactly why Lane Kiffin ain't going anywhere. Today,
is exactly why Lane Kiffin doesn't want the Penn State job,
or shouldn't want the Penn State job. Today is exactly
why Lane Kiffin's gonna be the head coach at ole

(40:36):
Miss for a very long time because at the end
of the day, he lost a game where his team
melted down, and yet again, in an annual tradition, it
just felt like nobody could execute down the stretch when
they really needed to in a key game, in a
game where there was virtually no defense, Georgia figured out
a way to play, Ole Miss figured out a way
to step on themselves, and ole Miss takes what is

(40:58):
just a terrible loss and the game that they melted down.
But tomorrow ole Miss fans aren't going to be calling
for Lane Kiffin to be fired. He's buck rising on
Jason Fitz. I just think there's a reality here, right Like,
as we watch this game come to an end. Ole
Miss is a very good football program, and I think
they have a tremendous shot at a great postseason run.
I think they will be in the College Football Playoff.

(41:19):
Everything's going to be just fine for ole Miss. But
as I watch Ole Miss lose and I hear some
of the scores that Martin just gave us, I am
reminded about the fact that there are a handful of
programs that simply think that they are held to a
different standard even if they aren't. And I understand that
Penn State fans don't want to hear this, but Penn
State fans fired James Franklin for losing the exact type

(41:40):
of game that Lane Kiffin just lost. And it's funny
to me because if the only thing in the world
they would ever make fans like Penn State fans happy,
if the only thing that will ever truly get it
done is well, you have to win a national championship.
If you are going to be the coach of insert
school name here, then you must win a national championship.
If that is the only line in the sand that

(42:02):
is acceptable for anybody. I'll remind everybody there's only three
coaches in all of college football that have won a
national championship currently, and they're not going anywhere. And every
one of the coaches that people think are gonna come
in and save their program are a hell of a
lot more likely to be James Franklin or worse, they're
I mean, best case scenario out, Alane Kiffin. What are
you get in Are you getting suddenly a juggernaut that

(42:24):
wins championships year after year after year, or you're getting
a really good football coach is gonna make the most
of what he has. He's gonna be competitive, he's gonna
be in it. They're gonna win some games they shouldn't,
they're gonna lose some games they shouldn't, and across the spectrum,
you're gonna have interesting and fun college football years every year.
Because that's like a much more accurate description of what
almost every school in the country actually has.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
So there's a lot to unpack there. First and foremost,
Lane Kiffin should go nowhere near the Penn State job
for his own sake, Cluck. I can't think of a
worse fit than Lane Kiffin in Happy Valley trying to
do the job that that that that.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
Program is going to require.

Speaker 3 (43:05):
I just I think that would have been a mistake
from the onset, and I don't think there's at least
there hasn't been reporting to the effect of that that
was ever a consideration. Now the Florida gig, with Billy
Napier feeling more tenuous or in a more tenuous position
than he's been at any point in his career, there
that that still makes plenty of sense.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
Why why go to Florida? Florida is gonna be if he.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
Why it's a better job because he has more resources there.
There will be more pressure there, of course, but that
is if you have national championship aspirations, you currently have
a cap on yourself at ole miss that. I think
that Lane Kiffin, you know, depending on his most honest moment,
he's probably got some conflict about the idea of leaving

(43:52):
a very comfortable situation versus the competitive side of Lane Kiffin,
which still wants to win at the highest level and
tell everybody to eat it on the way up. Like
I do think that that has to be factored in
fits y. I don't think it would be an easy No,
I'm not taking the Florida job just because people would
be calling for my head on a more regular basis.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
Do you not, Like? Look, at the end of the day,
Lane Kiffin makes nine million dollars a year. He's the
tenth highest paid coach in all of college football coming
into the season. Right the names that are ahead of
him are names like Kirby and Ryan Day, Lincoln Riley Dabbo.
They're all making maybe a couple of million dollars. More So,
if you're going to make a move, if you're Lane Kiffin,

(44:29):
for example, and you're gonna make a move. The reason
this comes up is because if today Florida had blown
a nine point lead to Georgia in the fourth quarter
in a game where the defense couldn't get a stop,
and Florida had found a way to lose to Georgia
in a game that they absolutely could have won throughout
the course of the entirety of the game, Florida fans
would be calling for Lane Kiffin's head. And I do
think that that has to matter at some point, because

(44:51):
you could certainly the amount of money that Ole Miss
spent last year on that defensive side of the ball particularly,
was staggering to put together a team that they thought
could win in the expectation and all Miss is, hey,
you need to be in the college football playoff conversation
every single year, and I think that's fair. I agree
with you that Florida because of the resources they have
in the state of Florida, the recruiting some in some ways,

(45:13):
the money, I believe that Florida can be a better job.
But I think that Florida fans have such a skewed
concept of what success is that that in and of
itself makes it less of a job. Like why would
you want to move your family somewhere where you can't
have dinner out on a Sunday if you lose on Saturday,
because somebody's gonna come up and say something to you.

(45:33):
And that's a reality.

Speaker 3 (45:34):
You don't think that's happening. And it'll Miss too. You
don't think Miss fans. I mean again, they're not Florida fans,
and Florida has perpetual championship expectations. I agree that Oxford
is much more low key than gained Villows, but you
don't think that there's all Miss fans coming up to
Lane Kiffin sideways after a loss like.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
Today, maybe, but not to the same level I think.
I think if Lane Kiffin spent the next decade losing
two games a year and always being in the College
for Ball playoff conversation, fringe team makes it some years,
finds his way into it other years. I think if
that was the reality for Lin Kiffin for the next decade,
Olems fans would be very happy with the program they have.
If that's the exact same description at Florida, you lose

(46:14):
a couple of games every year, you're right on the
fringe of the playoffs. Sometimes you win a couple playoff games,
sometimes you don't. Florida fans would run him out of
the building, just like LSU fans run every coach out
of the building that doesn't win a national championship, just
like Bama fans are going to try and run Kaitlin
to Bore out of the building if he doesn't win
a national championship. And they're all going to tell you
that the standard is only national championships, to which I say,

(46:35):
that's just an old logic in college football, Like you
rarely see, college football has become it's not becoming. College
football is essentially the NFL at this point, when's the
last time you saw a coach in the NFL that
made the wild Card every single year suddenly get himself fired.
It's so rare that it happens. It is rare to
find a Mike Tomlin situation. Then that's taken years of

(46:58):
Mike Tomlin getting to the playoffs and lose for Steelers
fans to keep yelling about it, and even then it's controversial, right,
like it's the same thing.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
I'm just laughing because I saw the Titans do exactly
that with Mike Malarkey. Is the first playoff game they
won in fourteen years, and they can't trying to fire,
kept leaking that they were going to fire and to
e and wrap ThePort every time he advanced until he
finally lost to the Patriots in the Division round. So yeah, no,
I mean, good organizations don't do that. The one that
I cover on a daily basis does.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
I mean, it still happens sometimes, but I think the
college football landscape needs to accept that making the college
being in contention and making the college football playoff is
that is success. I mean, our mutual friend Harry Douglas
always says all the time, once you get in the dance,
got a chance. If I had a nickel for every time,
if I took a shot every time Harry Douglas said
getting the dance, got a chance, I'd be in rehab. Okay,

(47:50):
But the whole concept of that is, like, it's not
always about being the best team all year. It's not
about being an elite juggernaut all year. It's about getting
hot when it's playoff time and being the getting yourself
into that situation where you have a chance. And that's
that's the perspective that is lost on college football fan basis.

Speaker 3 (48:10):
I just saw the Wisconsin Ohio State score. They didn't
score a point. No hosting that game in Madison, they
didn't score a single point.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
O my god, do you think they still played jump around?
I like to you like nice, just camparantal, Like they
get to that point, camp rendle over the PA comes
comes a voice and it's like we're.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
Sorry, we're not going to be doing any jumping today. Wow.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
I mean, it has been a crazy, crazy season. This
is going to be a wild coaching carousel. Not to
skip past the college football season and get right to
the idea of hirings and firings. But Dabbo lost again
today thirty five twenty four SMU over Clemson. At this
point in time, Oregon is clinging to a ten point
lead at Rutgers right now thirteen to three, looking a

(48:56):
little mortal as well. I am fascinated to see what
happens and who decides to take which job, because I mean,
who would you have prioritized for the Penn State job. Well,
let's start here, because we talked about this last year.
Was James Franklin fired by the time we got on
the air. No James Franklin, No, no, no week fired?

Speaker 1 (49:15):
In fact, last week if you were listening to buckham Fits,
our conversation last week when they lost that game was
will he make it through tomorrow? Will we see him
fire tomorrow? Which was funny to me because for my,
you know, day job with y'a Who's Sports. The minute
he got let go, everybody was said, oh my god,
this is shocking. I'm like, now, if you listen to
Fox Sports Radio on Saturday, we told you he was
going to get fired over the weekend. Who is the

(49:36):
right person to replace James Franklin is a really difficult conversation, like.

Speaker 3 (49:42):
Sidnetti would have been the guy, like Signetti should be
main character number one in that situation. And Indiana did
the thing that Indiana never does, which is said, weird,
We're going to care about college football eleven million dollars
plus a year.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
Yeah, and you know you start to think about what
that means for other big names. I don't believe at
Penn State fires James Franklin to go find a young,
up and coming coach. Should they yes, they should? Will
they know? Because I think Penn State, like we talk
a lot about the fact that you cover a dysfunctional organization.

(50:15):
I am I am a fan. I am a fan,
a diehard fan of one of the most dysfunctional organizations
in sports, and like, look as a guy with the
Raiders tattoo. I say this all the time. Mark Davis
hires stars right or wrong. Mark Davis wanted John Gruden
right right or wrong. Mark Davis wanted Josh McDaniels. He
was the biggest name, right or wrong. Mark Davis likes

(50:35):
Pete Carroll like he likes name recognition. I think most
college football boosters are basically Buddy Garrity meets Mark Davis.
So they got all have Friday Night lights glory with
their program, and they're at the end of the day,
they're star lovers. I'm using a much more appropriate term
for that. They're star lovers. They want to go out
there and they want to love stars, and that's why

(50:57):
I think they're going to try and go for a
big name. So I don't know, like right now, if
you had to ask me, rolling it out there with
absolutely no reporting and just pure speculation, John grud go
out and get the biggest name you possibly can. He's
not going to get an NFL job because I want
John Gruden.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
I want John Gruden.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
Yeah, I mean, look.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
Why can't he get another NFL jobs? Flores assuing the
league too? He's working in the NFL, I mean Flora.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
I don't think Flores is going to get a head
coaching job until the lawsuits drump, I don't. I don't think.

Speaker 6 (51:26):
What about like urban Meyer, would that be blasphemous for
him being a former buck Eye?

Speaker 2 (51:30):
Oh yeah, because urban Meyer has moral standards.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
Yeah, of course, no controversies there. But I mean urbansvable
urban that makes sense in a million different ways.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
I mean, like, I love that miss Terry's on college
game day to day talking about Saban taking another job,
being like, you know, I have no doubt that he
could go and win his eighth national championship or whatever
if he decided to, But we want to give our
baby coaches a chance.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
Baby coaches is a crazy thing.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
Let's say about national championship caliber coaches like Kirby Smart
and Lane Kiffin and.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
Lane Kiffin quote tweeted with the quoted that and said thanks,
miss Terry, only to lose today, right, like these baby coaches. Look,
I think college football is better for no, for not
having Nick Saban in it. I'm just gonna be clear.
I think it's better not having Nick Saban in it.
I don't think they're because it makes things less predictable because, frankly,

(52:26):
if Nick Saban was in this version of college football,
I believe that he has shown that he can dominate
every version of college football, he would dominate this version.
All Right, you mentioned you mentioned wanting John Gruden as
a head coach. When we come back, I will give
you the biggest theory that nobody's talking about on John Gruden.
Why he's gonna take a job and if he takes

(52:47):
a job in the NFL. Exactly who his quarterback is
gonna be. I've figured it all out. I'll tell you
that next. He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitzer, hanging out
with you, Bucking Fits on Fox Sports Radio. He's Buck Rising.
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iHeart app. Speaking of the movie theater, I went to
see black Phone two. Very good, all right, Like, look
this is what black Phone two. It's a horror movie, okay,
like and.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
Look Blackphone one.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
Okay, black Phone just made that up to.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
Me and I would have had no idea what you're
talking about.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
Okay, number one. Black Phone two, by the way, it's
gotten pretty bad reviews. I would say this like change
your expectations. We all kind of knew from the previews
what it was going to be. Relaxed everybody. If you've
never seen the original Black Phone, it is one of
the most uncomfortable, suspenseful movies I think I've seen, Like
horror is the genre that it's put into, but it's
not gory in that way. It's a wildly uncomple suspenseful movie.

(54:01):
Like it's it's great this time of year. I would
strongly recommend it, even to you, Buck Rising, even even
to you. Also, I don't need a Bruce Springsteen movie.
I'm just gonna say it out loud, like if they're
still alive and hanging out, like if you can go
to your only to your own movie premiere. I don't
know that there's anything more self aggrandizing than like, here's
my movie, and like triumph con tribulation, like as Bruce's

(54:24):
that's so tough, we're gonna make a movie about it,
Like what are we doing here? I don't need a
movie about Bruce Springsteen's life.

Speaker 3 (54:30):
And what's your theory on this you were telling us
during the commercial break, Ian left.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
To remember exactly what the theory was.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
All the theory.

Speaker 5 (54:42):
Before the actor actors blows up, they have to do
a documentary.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
This isn't my theory though, just to be clear, but yeah,
it's that, like, well clear, is that not a fine?
Mary Mack? Is that not a fine? Like not remembering
your own.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
Hitting also greeting me with silence on the other end
of the microphone.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
I was waiting for means to ask the number of
the number of fines here for for Ian at this point,
like you don't want.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
This smoke, You don't, you don't want the smoke. I've
had a hell of a week, brother, you want to
test this this week? Please? I just need.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
To step on up anymore.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
No, no fine speak.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
I mean essentially, this is what I've heard though.

Speaker 6 (55:21):
It's that like in Hollywood, these actors who are kind
of on the rise have to play a role like
this where they play like a character role, like if
you like Shala May played Bob Dylan recently in that movie.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
Austin Butler played Elvis Presley.

Speaker 6 (55:35):
In that movie. There's another one that I brought up
as well. But the point is this is uh, Jeremy
Allen White, I think that's his name. This is like
his version of that and now after he does this
for Springsteen movie, he's gonna be like totally on the
rise in Hollywood.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
I don't know if it's like a rite of passage
or what. I mean, the Bear didn't already put him
there like it would be my my, he's done some
pretty that's like he's on the rise type movie. Like
you got to be in a show like that.

Speaker 6 (55:58):
That's like, you know, it sweeps the nation and people
love it, but that's not like you're absolute.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
He's a star now because of the Bear.

Speaker 3 (56:04):
So you do the Bear and then you do the
the biopic situation and then you get put in a
Marvel movie. Is that the kind of that's that's what
we're talking about.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
It he was really good. And was it Iron Steel
or whatever with that? Yeah, yeah, Iron iron Claw.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
Dude, I saw none of these.

Speaker 6 (56:20):
That's the saddest movie you'll ever watch in your life.
So if you're not into sad movies, don't watch The
Iron Claw.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
The Iron Claw is like I kept waiting. I mean,
as a as a big fan of that era of
professional wrestling and everything, I understood that that movie was
gonna be sad. I didn't understand it was gonna be
that sad, Like there's just there's no redemption, like most
most really sad movies have a turning point of great
redemption where you're like, oh, okay, like everybody felt better

(56:46):
about it.

Speaker 6 (56:46):
No, not that that one's just like, you know, the
worst part though, is that in reality they say that
like the true story is actually even sadder than what
the movie show, Like there was actually another news that
I don't want to spoil it, but yeah, like it's
just even worse, which is just crazy, Like that movie
cut out the saddest parts of the actual story on
it again, Like if you grew up an eighties wrestling
venue somewhat familiar with all of that, go look it up.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
It's a it's good work. I'm just saying I don't
need a biotic pick on Bruce Springsteen when Bruce Springsteen
is still putting out records like or touring at some level.
And I get it, like the audience for that might
be the only audience other than me that's still old
enough to want to go to the movies all the time.
I understand all that, but I'm out on it. I
didn't see the Dylan pick. I definitely and Elvis. I

(57:29):
mean not a lot, but I didn't see the Elvis
movie either, Like unless the Elvis movie wanted to give
us all the just the uncomfortably gross details of his
relationship with Priscilla. I don't think that any movie needs
to be like you, Yeah, it's amazing how it glosses.
This is why every time somebody comes in now and
they're like, I refuse to support this musician. They're creepy,
and it's like, okay with Jerry Lee Lewis married his

(57:50):
thirteen year old cousin, And are you familiar with how
old Priscilla was when Elvis started dating at fourteen? So,
like you know, we pick could choose where we decided
certain artists to problematic and certain artists aren't. So that's
why I just separate my music from my art. All
the way around Florida is they're winning right now. Does
this change your billion napier? Because all week, every college football,

(58:11):
every college football reporter has come back and said, oh,
the meetings are happening beyond the scenes, and Florida's going
to be firing billion napier. Well don't look now, but
two forty eight to go in the game at least
for now, Florida is up there. We're pending review on
a touchdown from Mississippi State. But Florida is winning this
football game. Like, I don't want to bag anybody down
with details here, but billiy Napier might not give anybody
a choice on his job because he's winning a football game.

Speaker 3 (58:34):
No, you still fire him, He's still firing. Come on,
we're wait. They're at home against Mississippi State.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
Yes, they're in the swamp, they're in Yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
I am not impressed. Mississippi State is a fine football team.
Mississippi State has exceeded expectations, preseason expectations for whatever we
for however much we still care about such things at
this point in time. But yeah, I mean, I have
no interest. If I'm a Florida fan, I have no
interest in billion nape You're saving his job by beating
Mississippi State at home in this particular situation when you

(59:09):
set out with national championship aspirations.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
Look, I respect, I look Buck Rising. If there's anything
you should know about Buck Rising, it's that I am
not impressed. Could absolutely just that could be put on
his tombstone. It doesn't like it doesn't I could come
in to Nashville. I can fly into Nashville, arrive and
I could do an entire dance routine with fifty people
around me and have Buck's name throwing like flame off

(59:33):
of the streets, and everybody singing a custom song that
said Buck Rising. And he would sit there with his
arms crossed and looked unimpressed through all of it. Where's
I'd figured out the answer to the John Gruden question?
Not only not only what's going to happen to John,
but also whose quarterback is going to be? I put
the tea leaves together before we do any of that, though.
It's a little early, but let's get Martin in here.

(59:54):
Let's get Martin to get us updated on the scores
across the country.

Speaker 8 (59:57):
Fellas, this has gutten hectic in the last thirty minutes.
Our Arizona State was leading for most.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
Of this game.

Speaker 8 (01:00:02):
Fifteen to fourth quarter points for Texas Tech, the seventh
ranked team in the nation, storms back now twenty two
to nineteen at the two minute timeout.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
They just had a two point conversion.

Speaker 8 (01:00:13):
Texas Tech did that game's on Fox with nineteen seconds
left in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
It is fourth down and.

Speaker 8 (01:00:19):
Goal for Memphis the Memphis Tigers, twenty second ranked team
in the nation. Undefeated, Well, actually won't be any longer.
As UAB has the ball as a fourth down failed conversion.
They did not get it. You wi be thirty one
to twenty four. They're gonna go ahead and win this game.
YOUAB just fired their coach, Trent Dilfer, in the middle
of the year. They have an interim head coach. They're

(01:00:42):
zero to three right now in conference play. That'll move
to one in three. Memphis, we'll get their first loss
on the year. Texas A and M just scored a touchdown.
Arkansas had seventeen points in the in the second quarter.
There to go ahead and catch up in this game
is twenty eight to twenty. Aggie's leading. That game was
in a rain delay for a lot of the beginning
of the thirteen minutes left in the second half. In

(01:01:04):
the third quarter. There in the fourteen minutes left in
the first half, Oregon with a twenty one to three
lead over Rutgers. The eighth ranked Ducks just scored a
touchdown themselves open the second quarter. Scoring into the first quarter.
Washington State and Virginia are seven apiece. Eighteenth th ranked
Cavaliers five and one right now, and we earlier today

(01:01:25):
we saw Indiana beat Michigan State thirty eight to thirteen.
Georgia where they come from behind win over Old miss
at this one's in Athens forty three to thirty five
seventeen un answers in the fourth quarter for the Bulldogs.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
Ohio State Duelians.

Speaker 8 (01:01:39):
Saying through four touchdown passes as they routed Wisconsint thirty
four to nothing. Vanderbilt upset LSU thirty one to twenty four,
Diego Pavia with three total touchdowns.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
Georgia Tech undefeated on the season thus.

Speaker 8 (01:01:51):
Far seven to oh four and oer on conference play
twenty seven to eighteen. The margin today over Duke twelve
ranked Yellowjackets having one of their best starts of the
year and quite on time, and fourteenth rank to Oklahoma
with a twenty six to seven win over South Carolina Boys.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
Back to you, by the way, a lot of media
people will be jumping up and down in celebration of
that UAB win. Interim head coach Alex Mortensen, the son
of the great Chris Mortenson, one of the great people
in our business and one of the kindest people to
me when I got to ESPN. It's a really incredible
moment for that family, obviously for the late great Chris
Mortenson's family. He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason fitz hanging out

(01:02:27):
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after we get off the air. And Buck, look this,

(01:02:47):
I figured it out with Gruden, and I figured it
out based on a podcast that had nothing to do
with John Gruden. Last week, Derek Carr and his brother
have a podcast together and there were some clips started
floating on social media Derek Carr and his brother talking
a little bit about the Cincinnati Bengals quarterback situation and
Derek kind of being a wishy washy you can't really
talk about that. Nothing to see here. And then another

(01:03:10):
podcast for his brother, David Carr, where the host asked
David Carr, so did Derek almost sign with the Bengals
and Carr said, you know, I can either confirm nor deny.
I could just tell you that if Derek comes back,
he wants to play somewhere where you know they can
have a deep run. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
I'm telling you, Derek Carr's thirty four years old and
he retired because of some shoulder issues. Did he retire

(01:03:31):
or was he taking a year off from a situation
that was just a bad situation for him and trying
to figure out how to recoup to whatever's next for
his career. The best success that Derek Carr has had
was with John Gruden as his head coach. My wild
prediction out here is that Gruden's going to look for
an NFL job where he can draft a quarterback because
that's the smart thing to do. But in the process

(01:03:51):
of developing the quarterback, he's going to bring a then
thirty five year old Derek Carr with him that runs
his offense. And then, all of a sudden, because Derek
Carr can come in and be that guy that runs
John Gruden's offense, You're going to see a Gruden Car
reuniting while they develop a young quarterback. In the NFL,
which eliminates by the way, Gruden to the Tennessee Titans
team needs does it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
Why would that eliminate him. It could just mean that
he comes in and says, no, get cam word out
of here like you and I talked about this via
text with Ian before the show started, because obviously the
Tennessee Titans are the first team in the NFL to
fire their coach, which, by the way, a laughingstock of
an organization. I say this is somebody who is broadcasting
from Nashville. I say this is somebody who's covered that

(01:04:32):
organization for nine years. They are an unholy mess. They
are an unseerious franchise by any stretch of the imagination.
And it's not because they fired Brian Callahan, who deserved
to be fired. It's because they don't know what the
hell they're doing, and they continue to prove it year
in year out. Also, Mike Rabel is coming to town tomorrow.
In fact, he is here to kick their ever loving ass. Anyway,

(01:04:53):
So on the Gruden thing, it is it is not
impossible to imagine a situation FITZI like so long ago
in Arizona where Cliff Kingsbury comes in as the head
coach of a team in the Arizona Cardinals, who had
just drafted a quarterback in the first round at that time,
it was Josh Rosen. And listen, Josh Rosen obviously didn't
go on to have success. He's one of the few

(01:05:14):
quarterbacks from that class that hasn't had success. I think
he's doing just fine in the I think he's in
the personal finance world at this point in time, so
it's probably maybe not making NFL money, but he's doing
okay for himself. But as a professional football player, the
Josh Rosen thing wasn't it. So they take Kyler Murray
number one overall and the rest is history. Now Cliff
gets fired, as I think you pointed out in the
group text, three years into Kyler Murray's career. So it

(01:05:37):
didn't work exactly right that way. But it doesn't mean
that an organization can't, like the Titans can't bring in
John Gruden if they were not so insecure as to
bring in a coach who is going to demand some
level of control over the football organization as opposed to
letting all the meddling Game of Thrones type people who
are wandering around the Titans organization make a bunch of
football decisions they have no business making. And to say,

(01:05:57):
with a team that could very well have the number
one overall if Ian Roddy's Jets did not exist in
the NFL universe, to say no, this Camboard guy not it,
because Cam did. Cam's struggling pretty mightily, and he's playing
poorly and the football team that he plays for is bad.
But he is also contributing to some of those problems.
And that may not be a completely turn key situation
for a guy like Gruden, who's going to come in

(01:06:19):
and again demand what he wants. So the idea of
him bringing Derek Carr with him would be awful. And
I don't want to have to live through that experience
necessarily as somebody who spends entirely too much time watching
Tennessee Titans football. But I could see a situation if
they were to empower Gruden where he would make a
couple of quarterback changes and say, yeah, Cam Warden, I'm

(01:06:40):
good on that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
Look, this is a very unpopular opinion of mine, but
I think that the Tennessee Titans should make a decision
on their next head coach based solely on if they
think that person can finally turn the organization around. And
if that means no cam Ward, you gotta be okay
with it. I don't think you can hamstring your next don't.

(01:07:03):
I don't think you can. I don't think you can
have caveats. I think you need the right person to
bring in to lead an organization. So if one of
your caveats say is well I want you, but you
got to be into cam Ward, Nope. If you want
the coach, then you let the coach come in and
do whatever the coach needs to do to turn that
organization around. Like to your point, you know, Ian's Jets,
I think are a much better example of If the

(01:07:23):
Jets go oh and seventeen. Frank Schwab at Yahoo this week, Hey,
I think that I think there's a real chance to
Jets go oh and seventeen. If they go oh and seventeen,
Aaron Glenn could be one and done. If Aaron Glenn
is one and done, is Gruden Carr a combination? While
you draft a quarterback you know that you hope you
can develop into it, that sort of becomes the new
bridge for the Jets. I don't know, but I think

(01:07:44):
if you're looking at it from the Titans standpoint. My god,
I don't want to. I don't want to start with
the pool of candidates and then say, okay, now let's
filter these candidates. No, I'm not filtering anything. I'm going
to hire the best candidate. And if the best candidate
walks in the room and says here's my plan to
fix your organ and you love it, and he says,
by the way, one small thing, I don't want cam
Warden as my quarterback. Cool, all right, move on, like

(01:08:06):
I don't care. I don't think when you are as
bad as the Titans have been for as long as
they've been, if the person that they think can fix
it doesn't want cam Warden, then you get rid of
cam Ward. If it happens to work out, like great,
that cam is what this person wants that comes into
the organization, that's awesome. But I don't think you even
have the conversation with you. Let that coach come in

(01:08:29):
from the outset and say yes or no to cam
Ward and whatever he says, that's the answer you take.

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
Well.

Speaker 3 (01:08:34):
The person making the decisions in Tennessee, Amy Adams Strunk,
who is making a push for the worst owner in
professional sports right now with her. Mike Silver came on
the radio the Local radio show this week and called
her gutless for her lack of appearances in the last
four firings of Titans administrators and coaches, Brian Callahan being
the latest head to roll. At this point in time,

(01:08:57):
she fired a coach and then decided to build around
will Us. So I have no confidence whatsoever that you
wouldn't make the same mistake and do the exact same
thing with cam Ward, even though I completely agree and
understand what you're saying. Ian, would you like the Gruden
car combination in New York if Aaron Glenn is fired?

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
Would that? Would that make you happy?

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
It would not.

Speaker 6 (01:09:18):
I also everyone just talking about anything like such a
shoe and no, nothing would. But everyone talks about him
like he's a shoe in to be this great head
coach when he returns, but like he wasn't that good
with the Raiders. As Fitz knows, his drafting was awful.
He drafted Henry Ruggs, Like was that guy Damon Arnette?
That Ohio State first round Alex Leatherwood. I'm just remembering
all these crazy Gaitland Ferrell agreed Cleveland fair all these

(01:09:41):
egregious first round.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
That was Mayock.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
I mean, I understand that he was.

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
In the room, yeah big saying it. He had to
know the drafting. The reason most teams are bad they
draft poorly. And I would argue that Gruden in his
entire career never drafted well. Like you look back at
the the era of the Raiders being great, and that
era of the Raiders were great because he was able
to identify veteran talent and bring that veteran talent in.

(01:10:07):
If you want to win through the draft, you don't
want Gruden as your coach. You want Gruden to come
in and say, Okay, I want Jerry Rice, and I
want Tim Brown, and I want Rich Cann I'm remembering
Rich had been in the league for several years, is
a backup in Kansas City. So where Gruden did a
good job was he understood how to evaluate existing NFL
talent and then get the most out of that existing
NFL talent in his system. That's why, honestly, I think

(01:10:28):
in the modern college football climate, he'd be pretty good
as a college football coach because he'd just go out
and pluck the nil. But we wouldn't have to develop anybody.
You just go out there and the nil you get everybody,
you're gonna have a team full of twenty three twenty
four year olds that played a lot of college football,
and you bring him in and say, all right, now
learn my system, you know, essentially doing what Kaylin Dmore
was able to do with Michael Pennix and Romadoonsay and

(01:10:50):
those guys like that's that's I think the method for Gruden.
But Ian to your point, he never drafted well even
when those teams went to the Super Bowl, and the
Super Bowl he won was filled with the cupboard full
of talent, but that he also did not draft with
the Buccaneers. So the draft has never been like, you
get Gruden because you want to go out there and
hammer free agency.

Speaker 6 (01:11:06):
So if you pair him with a really good GM,
then he could be a great guy to bring in.

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
But it's just like just don't don't let him touch
the draft. I think he'd also have to have the
I say this gently, his ego would have to allow
somebody else to make the decisions on what's going on.
And I don't know that that that exists for coach,
Like I don't I don't know if Gruden really has
that level of like no, no, no, no, no, I
trust you you're great. Yeah, you go ahead and pick
the players like I Just that doesn't none of this.

(01:11:33):
You're right, by the way, the reputation of John Gruden
is far better than the actual evidence on the field
of what John Gruden has accomplished. It just I think
there are certain organizations that are hungry for you know,
a name, no definite with James. Yeah, when James Dolan
brought in Phil Jackson to fix the Knicks, Phil Jackson
was never going to fix the Knicks. It was just

(01:11:54):
a big name, and some people like big names.

Speaker 3 (01:11:57):
I mean, for God, Sex Fitzy. I would want to
Gruden just to give people a reason to care about
the team that I covered. There's no other reason to
care about the Tennessee Titans heading into twenty twenty six
at this point in time. I mean, cam word is
a nice thing, but if he doesn't pan out and
they continue to screw around like they have no they
have nothing that is deserving of the marque. Jeff Simmons

(01:12:19):
is excellent. He's playing such good football. He's the best
interior defensive lineman in the sport right now and he's
lost on a one in five about to be one
and six football team after Mike Rible comes in here
and kurb stops them.

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
Tomorrow Mississippi State. Easy for me to say, has the
ball minute and thirty to go in the game, down
by two and they are driving. We will update you
on what this looks like for what could be the
last game for Billion Apier on the sidelines. We could
have another coach opening. We don't root for it on
the show. It's just feels like inevitability. Sleepy is just

(01:12:51):
just slipping away. So we'll keep you updated on that.
Plus the single greatest game show in the history of
sports talk radio? Would you rather get to come up next?
Buck Rising? Jason Fitz on Fox Which Radio. Yeah, Florida's
gonna hang on and get the win over Mississippi State.
We'll see if that helps Billy Napier hang on to
his job. And a big update for you in the NFL.

(01:13:11):
Tom Pellisero tweeting out the Packers have yet to depart
for Arizona because the mechanical issues with the team plane.
The team is now approaching a five hour delay. They're
still on the tarmac. Remember, kickoff against the Cardinals is
at one twenty five pm Mountain Times Sunday. So just
a little interesting nugget for them is that we'll disrupt
a bit of their a bit of their timing. He's

(01:13:32):
Buck rising on Jason Fitz. Were hanging out with you
on Fox Sports Radio as always. Let's get straight to it.

Speaker 5 (01:13:39):
Ian.

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
Uh, you know, we don't want to get we don't
want to be late to anything. Ian, Let's get to
the single greatest game show in the history of Sportscark Radio.
It's time for Wood.

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
You rather nailed it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:55):
That was so bad.

Speaker 6 (01:14:02):
Speaking of being late, one of you was late there
on that in that unison announcement there.

Speaker 1 (01:14:08):
But we have a delay. We have a delay, not
on us, but I mean it's it's impossible. We have
a delay, and there's nothing hard to tell, you know what.
I think the real problem is that, you know, the
four or five apparently the four or five just to
kind of screwed us up a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:14:23):
Do I think he gets a fine for that?

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
I think he gets a fine. Mary Mack, by the way,
gets double pay today, Double pay for Mary Mac. Would
you rather pay double to Mary Mack? Answers yes, he
is walking off the show. He's like, I'm out, he's protesting.
This is not even dignifying us with a response, spin

(01:14:47):
the wheel in the wheel.

Speaker 6 (01:14:55):
Okay, guys, would you rather every hoodie string be uneven
forever when you were hoodie? Or every zipper stop an
inch short of closing.

Speaker 3 (01:15:06):
By the way, Yeah, I guess see. I will, depending
on like the kind of pullover I'm wearing, Like sometimes
I will zip them all the way up, but I
feel like, bleep off, Mary, I think that it would
drive me more insane to have my hoodie strings be uneven,

(01:15:28):
Like that is one thing that I am ocd about. Absolutely,
give me the the zipper that won't go all the
way up.

Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
I ad your fly. Yeah, I don't care, of course.

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
You know what is this a new thing?

Speaker 3 (01:15:44):
Like when's the last time anybody bought a new pair
of jeans on this show? Because the last like three
pairs of jeans have bought, they don't come with zippers.
They come with the buttons. It's like five buttons. It
takes me an hour and a half to pee.

Speaker 1 (01:15:54):
Okay, well, you do realize that if you just aggressively
pull on the top button the alogic Yeah, talking.

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
About, you know, button it back up. I look like
proper at the urinal.

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
Again, Like I'm at disappointment. I'm at the point in
my life where I just don't care if that's gonna happen.
I'm just gonna button the top button and whatever whatever,
whatever happens happens, whatever happens happened. You know, there we go.
Uh No, I was, so I was. Uh, you know,
I work out. I was at the gym the other day,
and I wear enough hoodie basically every day of my life.

(01:16:26):
And I literally threw down the weights and disgust and
let out a four letter word because I couldn't get
the two strings to align, and it was really pissing
me off. So there's no question about this. Like, I
don't care if I'm walking around with my pants barely on,
but I will not have my hoodie strings not aligned.
So I'm all in on a I need hoodie string
alignment priorities. There you go. Although hoodie strings won't get

(01:16:50):
me arrested, and you know, my my zipper being down mite,
so I should probably reprioritiz go. What do we got next?

Speaker 6 (01:17:02):
Okay, would you rather your shoelaces always have a very
hard time staying tied, or your phone screen always has
a smudge in the middle of it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
Oh, I don't care about phone screen smudges like I
just I don't care able smudge like you can. Yeah. No,
I walked, I walked in. I walked in the room
the other day and Annabel was just like licking my
phone like it was just like it had gone out
of style. I don't care, like I already has smudges. Yeah,
I don't care about phone smudges at all. What was it? Wait,
what was the first half of the woods we I

(01:17:31):
already forgotten that I smoked shoe Yeah, shoelaces coming untied
is absolutely that's a nightmare. That's a nightmare, buck, I'm
out on that one.

Speaker 3 (01:17:39):
No, the phone smudge is gross because then I don't
know what the smudge is. The phone goes up to
your face on a regular basis, is the smudge now
on my face?

Speaker 2 (01:17:47):
Dogs are disgusting. Keep your tongue off my phone.

Speaker 1 (01:17:50):
You spent half this show with the cat sitting on
your shoulders, looking at you but grudging like I'm watching face.

Speaker 5 (01:17:58):
I know that's not the same that's not the same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
We're literally sitting on my shoulder for and just.

Speaker 1 (01:18:05):
Looking at you, like what are you doing? Why?

Speaker 5 (01:18:07):
Like him like your your dog is phone and the
phone was going on your face.

Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
My dog looks my face. I don't care. Like if
Annabel walks up and looks my face, I don't care.
At least once a week when I'm sitting there like
half asleep on the couch with my mouth wide open
like dog tongue and never really just laps over my face.
And I don't know that I wouldn't take that way.

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
We are now into animal husbandry.

Speaker 1 (01:18:27):
Fine, okay, I love my dog. By The Arizona States
just pulled off a massive upset. They had beaten Texas
Text twenty six twenty two. The number seventeen in the
land has fallen. But more importantly, let's get another question.
Spin Texas Tech loses. Get back to the wheel. I
don't care about Texas Tech, all right? This one's funny.

Speaker 6 (01:18:46):
Would you rather be invisible but only when no one's looking?
Or read minds but only when people are thinking about food?

Speaker 2 (01:18:56):
Invisible when no one's looking.

Speaker 3 (01:18:58):
I guess I don't want people useless food thoughts in
my head because I feel like.

Speaker 1 (01:19:03):
Both powers are pretty useless there.

Speaker 3 (01:19:05):
These are fundamentally useless powers. But I suppose the ability
to duck out at a moment's notice when somebody's not
looking at me would make me happy.

Speaker 1 (01:19:12):
I already do that at most parties. And by the way,
you would be so enraged that you could be invisible
and nobody would ever believe you because they couldn't see
it happen, So that would drive you crazy. I just
want to be able to judge people for their food,
like I want to be sitting at a bar and
be like, you really think you need pizza? All right?
Stick around Fox Sports Radio Jason Vinci's book Wire Rising.

(01:19:33):
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