The Fellas With Anthony Gargano & Geoff Schwartz celebrate the sports equinox, discuss Blue Jays win in G1 of the World Series, the NBA Gambling Scandal & preview Week 7 in the NFL!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Good morning, a buddy, Well Abby, Abby, Abby, Abby Abby.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
Fox Football Saturday with Jeff Schwartz. I'm Anthony Gargano, fellas
hanging from the Fox Sports Radio studios and uh hey,
one quick programming note project that I out. We'll be
back next week. Uh Danny D d A D was
traveling this week. Uh so we'll be back next week.

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And my boy was gracious enough to give me another hour.
And uh as the fellas commenced on a Saturday after
World Series Game one, the Jays shot the Dodgers nine.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
What a wild week in sports between.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
The the NBA, the Sports Equinox and then here we are,
the Jays take Game one. Snell, good early, Jay's get
to him. Alahadra Kirk, everybody's favorite. Five to five to fifteen.
Pual Man comes through again with three hits. I'd love

(01:11):
of home run, Barger breaks and open Jay's put up
an eleven spot to take Game one of the World Series.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Good morning, Jeff, Good morning, Good morning to Blue Jays.
You guys are doing a service for all of us
being the Dodgers in Game one. They're not Dodger fans
I'm the biggest Dodger here there can be, so I
really appreciate Game one. Hopefully can do it again for
three more games of this series. It'd be good for baseball.

(01:40):
It'd be good for baseball for the Blue Jays to win,
be good for baseball for the Dodgers, who, look, the
rules are the rules, They're following the rules. But all
this deferred money is I think, not good for the
sport right. A bunch of guys in contracts that are
not being paid a salary that is commenser of their
contract right now because they've deferred the money in the future,

(02:01):
which is allowed. That's allowed. I don't know why it's allowed.
It feels like it's not a great way to make
a league. That fare is the wrong word, but competitive
league right when you allow one team to pay the
players ten years from now, everyone else is paying the
players now. But Dodgers have money to do that. So nonetheless,
I'm glad that Blue Jay has got Game one, A
big game. I think when you are an underdog in

(02:23):
a series like this, and look, baseball is unique, it's
not basketball. You know, you could have won by one
runner seven runs. A win is a win, but it
had to feel good for the Blue Jays, who are
considerable underdogs and not many teams picked them. I thought
the Mariners actually were a better matchup for the Dodgers.
I feel wrong about that after one game so far.
So I will tell you this, Anthony. What I love

(02:46):
about baseball postseason is there is probably not a better
sport for crowd reactions after big plays than baseball in
the postseason, and crowds I love, like the Springer home
run Game seven. I just love the reaction of the

(03:09):
baseball fans after a big play, after a big hit.
And Toronto was electric last night. It was unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
And look, I thought, I said him here yesterday, I
thought that the Jay's had a punchers chance in this
series because they're punchers, because they're they have the best lineup.
They don't strike out, so they have a great lineup
that doesn't strike out, that could attack you from both sides.
And he saw it last night like you saw Snell

(03:40):
get taken yard by var show right like that was
that was huge, And it was preceded by Kirk because
Kirk is really the engine of that team. Like everybody
loves someone, he's five to five too. Fitty right, Like
he's a little fireplug man. He's awesome, but he's a
great hitter. You watch it like he'll stemm at bats

(04:02):
and he'll foul balls off and he'll like he'll waste
good pitches like he's he's got a great eye at
the point, really good uh back control and uh, you
know I thought last like that at bat that preceded
the Varshall home raw was a big deal.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
It just well you can see it and it's no
grooves won. Varshaw goes yard. And they're dangerous, dude, dude,
the absolutely dangerous. I mean, obviously we saw the end
result last night of how dangerous they are. And so
I I am excited for this series. I think that
as much as I you don't want the Dodgers to win,
I thought this would be an easy series for them. Look,

(04:43):
they've been so deep this year. We know that they
have so many ways to win, but they have run
up against a team that can really swing the bats
man and that makes a big difference. Obviously, Right we
talk about the ways to win the postseason, I think
it's very difficult to win stream together, Uh, hit after
hit after hit, you know, you need home runs. You need.

(05:04):
You need guys that can, as you mentioned, put the
ball in play and make a defense work. And so
look fantastic opening game hopefully continues again with I think
they probably play to night. I haven't even tried to schedule,
so yeah, but imagine they played to night, you know,
being able to to get that first win for the
Blue Jays. I I a thing too, man, I there

(05:25):
are many reason likes to show Halo Tony. But he
hits a home run when they're down eleven to two
I think it was, and he like just sprint around
the basis like this is not my time. I'm we're
down seven. I'm just gonna score my runs and move
it along. I love little things like that about about baseball. Yeah,
and he's like he's like he's he's a class dude.

(05:47):
There was a there was a bench clear. I don't
know if you saw this, Yeah, I remember that.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
Yeah, yeah, there was a bench It was a bench
clearing incident against the Padres and show hey it of
the game. Walks over to the Podres dugout and they're
all like looking at him, like.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
What's he coming over?

Speaker 3 (06:05):
And he like just walks by himself dart makes a
bline for the Padres dugout and he gets in front
of him, like about ten feet away and he bows.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
Like it was like the sign of respect, and like
it completely disarmed the podject.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
It was awesome.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
It's like the dude gets it. He's all about respect,
you know. I mean, it's hard enough to love him.
The reason why I like the Jayson the series, and
I said it before yesterday, so it is.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
The uh I can play the tape.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
Is they can attack the Dodgers' bullpen right like the Dodgers' bullpen,
which is lace with starters trying to patch together. It
can it can get to it because it contacks the
Dodgers starting right like the dot You're starting pitchers will
Ki are pro the high pitch counts, and the Blue

(07:07):
Jays have a lineup that can drive your pitch count up.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah. Yeah, a milk man. Anything to the Doggers will win.
I feel you, buddy, I'm all for again. I hate
them because I'm a Giants fan, so like there's no yeah,
of course, but I think, but I look, I think
the thing about the the the deferred payments is there
to me is a real concern about competitive balance. Right. Yeah,
So for those who might have missed it, like, so,

(07:33):
show Show hal Tani, you know, got this mega deal.
I don't even know what eight hundred million whatever, it was,
some insane number rights he deserves, and the Dodgers were
able to defer a lot of that money to you know,
to future ten years from now, twelve years from now.
That the old Bobby Bonia deal, right, where you defer
the money. And but the difference is they're not doing

(07:56):
with interest, so he's just he's just letting them pay
him later in favor of paying more players now. And
again it's inherently they allow it to happen. Good good,
good for the Dodgers to take advantage of it, but
it does allow them to build a roster that is
better than anyone else because they just show's making two
million dollars this season. That's not what he's actually worth obviously, right,

(08:20):
And so other teams have the opportunity to do this too,
they absolutely do. They don't. They don't have the money
the Dodgers do, which is that's part of life. But
I'm just surprised ownership allows us to happen. They allowed Yeah,
can you imagine And in the NFL. If the Chiefs
are like, you know what, Mahomes, can you just like
take less money now and then we'll just we'll pay
you later, We'd be like, no, no, no, no, you're
not doing that. This wouldn't happen because it affects to

(08:43):
the competitive balance of baseball. And so the Dodgers losing
this series would obviously sort of show that you know,
you don't you just doesn't always work. And so that's
I think why a lot of people, include myself, are
rooting for Toronto in this series.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah, I mentioned I agree with you wholeheartedly, but Baseball's
got major issues when it comes to that. I mean,
you can't have a league where you have, you know,
the top seventy eight payrolls that much higher than everybody else.
Just the inequity of it is ridiculous in this day
and age where the money is out of control. It's

(09:20):
their economic makeup is is just silly. It's it's ridiculous
and unfair. And I know the Players Association is that strong,
and you know, the whole nine and their anti cap
and everything else. I don't know how you have a
league without a cap. You can't have a fantasy league.

(09:41):
Without a cap. Yeah, like, let alone a major sport,
like it just makes no sense, it's not. And the
team with the deepest pockets deferred old's money like it's crazy,
like nuts, and you wonder why the Dodgers are so good,
like you look at them and I mean it's it's
completely unfair. But these leagues have issues, man, and there's

(10:05):
no bigger issue than in the NBA. What a wild week,
Jeff it was in the league.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
So quickly on the actual basketball, it's been good. Baseball
has been good. Like that's the thing that the kind
of I think that really stings for the NBA with
the story. We'll get to the story in a second.
Like the basketball has been good, and I don't watch
a ton of bastball this early in the season, but
somehow I I am and like Ka out of the
SLA like the Lakers, Luca and the game one obviously

(10:34):
double overtime. Okay, so he's been overtime twice now and
heavy in two games. You know, Luca last night with
twenty three first quarter points. Wemby is alien. I mean
you kidding me that that played the high blocks the
highlight where he blocks another seven footer like he's a
five year old, and then he goes down the court
and has the ball at the top of the key

(10:55):
between the legs, you know, dribble one dribble in the paint,
step back three pointer, like, are you kidding me? At
that size? Unbelievable. Basketball has been good, obviously overshadowed by
the arrest of Chouncy Billups and Jones and Terror Rogier,
And there's so many things to get to here when

(11:16):
it comes to this story. So the first part of
this and let's talk about the thing that that we
that seems like the biggest part of the indictment, which
is the poker game. Right, So essentially these individuals were
playing in a.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
Ring real quick, you think that's the biggest Like, well,
I think I think. I think it's all about the props, and.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Well, I think that's the easiest. I think it's easiest
to just to I think that's the easiest right now,
just to get out of the way, like and talk
about So basically, they're playing in a rig poker game
and it seems like they all knew about it, which
is and they're stealing money from people via technology like
we've always like maybe heard about, like in poker games,

(11:56):
like people using X ray glasses and like the cameras
all this stuff like that feels like the easiest thing
to prove that happened right now, right, Okay, So that
let's get that out of the way. The gambling part,
by the way, real quick on that, Like, there's all
kinds of other names that are apparently out there, yeah,
being reported at playing these games. I will say this,

(12:18):
I've not been invited to those games. I play in
games like we're for a lot of money. You know. Obviously,
if you're breaking the law by sending people up to
get scammed, that's illegal and should be dealt with. Uh,
just playing in that game, I don't think should be
a big deal. You know, the names that are out

(12:39):
there for having playing those games seem like they weren't
really involved in any of the illegal activity, which I
think it's a little there, Like it sounds like he's
just playing the game athlete scambal on cards and dice
and stuff like, we don't you know, like it's yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
Mean exact, it's part of competitive, Yes, part of being competitive, Yes,
is you gambled the golf course.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
I think I think that part of the story I
know their names are juicy. It's the usually hear Kevin
Garnett played in one of those games. But if I
was illegal, I think that's a non story. So you know, obviously,
if Chauncey Billups or any of these guys was used
to entice players to come to those games and they
knew the games were rigged, obviously that's a crime. Okay,

(13:29):
So the sports gambling thing, I want to We're gonn
spend a lot of time on this. So obviously I
gamble a lot. I work for gambling companies. Like my
show tomorrow, my bet MGM show on Fox Sports Radio
presented by bet MGM. Like it's a show that's about
sports wagering, I do other shows that are about sports wagering,

(13:52):
and so I feel like I have a pretty good
sense of this topic. And you know the thing that
you know where to begin here. The reason why sports
wagering and athletes shouldn't go hand in hand, right, or

(14:13):
coaches in this in this instance, is because we never
want to watch sports and question the integrity of what
we're watching, right. We want to assume as always that
the competition that we're watching. Any of the games you
watched last night and were watching today. Is everyone's playing
for the not the love of the game, but you
know for competitive right, they're trying to win and lose
the game and really win the game. And we don't

(14:34):
want to believe that any of this is rigged. And
that's where you get into the you know, the sort
of the reason why this is, to me is such
a big deal, right it is the integrity of the
game is being questioned in the NBA. Now, how how
much it actually happened, I don't know to what extent,
We don't know quite yet. But that's why it's a

(14:54):
big deal. Right. You don't want to think as you're
watching these games, I'm watching a game that's not being played.
It's the basis of every league.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
I mean, you go back to all the scandals in
nineteen nineteen World Series and all that stuff, Like if
you think everything's fake, correct, what do you do? What's
the idea of rooting for your team that it all
goes out the win that we're all orchestrating.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
So out of all the things we heard yesterday, sounds
like a couple of them were of this instance where
you know a player specifically a player, right Terry Rogier
or Jontay Porto we were in the past, right, we're
essentially throwing their game, not the team's game. In the end,
I don't know if the team won or lost the
games they were accused of throwing, but the fact is

(15:43):
they told people, Hey, there are player props out there
for me, I'm going to have a bad game, bet
against me. That that's what they're telling their friends and
their acquaintances in the situation, and that obviously, you know,
undermine the integrity of what we're watching right where a
player is is actively trying to not play well or
takes themselves out of a game, which is some of

(16:05):
the you know, some of the of the indictment and
some of the information they have, like I'm gonna tell
myself out for ten minutes and you're gonna win money, Okay,
So like that obviously not good. Part of it is
Chauncey Billups. It gives all accusations as a coach of
the Blazers was telling people, Hey, we're not trying hart
this game, bet against us.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
Okay, Oh my god, not great stuff that's out there.
I don't know if you saw all that out there
is a lot.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
I read the long one some you know Twitter guy
had a bunch of like you had a huge like Twitter,
I read it.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
Yeah, it's I mean there was a like real quick
there's a couple of plays one uh where, Like I
remember in real time watching the Blazers going, I mean,
what are they doing?

Speaker 2 (16:55):
Like they're a rotation the rotation stuff. Yeah, was to
kill us. I'm thinking, like you have a game that
you're trying to win, or like you're supposedly trying to win.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
Yeah, and you're taking your best players out of the
game with five minutes to go, Like it was bizarre
and it guy's weren't we would sit the last minute,
they weren't put Like all of a sudden, this guy
stopped playing. It was bizarre. Who would play two minutes
and that would be done? I mean it was completely

(17:29):
a clown show. I mean it was crazy. There was
a there was this I don't know if you saw
this guy. There was a guy in Boston. The Celtics
are playing the Blazers, and he took the Blazers catching
nine right, yeah, and there's the they're up eight. They're

(17:50):
running at the clock. It's inside twenty four seconds. They're
just standing there running at the clock, Chauncey Billups orders
somebody to foul one of the Celtics with four seconds
to go. Yep, he goes makes two free FROs. Did
Celtics wining cover? And you go, wait a second, that's

(18:15):
outrageous that you would found nobody fouls when you're up
eight run it out the clock.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
It was. It was unbelievable. So that's the to me,
that's the number one issue, right, is the integrity of
what we're wanting. Yeah, is being questioned now the and
and again. If Chauncey billips Is did these things, I
think it's you know, people suggested like I think it's
fair like you might have to take them out of
the Hall of Fame. Look, I think those are these
are offenses that you, to me, as a former athlete,

(18:45):
you obviously are you know, you cover the sport, watch
the sport, you have kids playing the sport. Sports. You
just can't you can't have this right. You can't have
a coach a player intentionally taint their game essentially, right,
Oh my god, it's so it's against everything fraud. It

(19:07):
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(20:36):
All right, let's dive there. We're diving into the whole
week that was in the NBA.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
Uh. Look, one of the things that come of this is.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
When you're in bed with gambling, like they've opened all
these leagues have done it. They've opened Pandora's box. And
when you open paid Door's box, you get this, and
there's a lot of all the stuff that's going on
that we don't know about. Yeah, And the issue, Jeff,
is that when you do this, you're that integrity you

(21:12):
talked about so eloquently during the last last segment automatically
becomes in question. And therein lies the zero tolerance. I
think the FBI understands, the government understands that there is
an issue here and it had to come down with

(21:33):
like the force of God to get all the headlines.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
I mean, the mafia, all this stuff.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
I mean, you know, half of it was theatrical, but
I think it was done on purpose to try to
scare people away from it.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
So let's talk about the the what you just mentioned.
So the partnership of sports books and the leagues. Okay,
so obviously legal sports wagering started and may have eighteens
when Supreme Court allowed the States to set to decide
whether or not they're gonna allow sports way drink. And
we've seen that most are right, some or not. You know,

(22:11):
I live in North Carolina, South Carolina, you can't, right,
you have to go quick. I'm at the beach and
in the summer, I'm right on the border. I drive
to North Carolina, like ten minutes away to place wagers
and come back across South Carolina, like you did. I
have to do it if you want to do it,
like you just not build in South Carolina. So before
and still now legal sports wage drink and that includes

(22:33):
right right, like the sports that we know. It's like bet, MGM, right, DraftKings, FanDuel,
all those ones. Right, those are domestic sports books that
are in this country, uh, that you're able to use
in the states where it's allowed. Right. Then you also
have right offshores right, which essentially are sports books you
can access on the Internet that have domain names that

(22:54):
are not in the United States. Right, Australia you like there,
and those have been a round for years and years
before legal started. The internet is why. And of course
there were bookies right before that, right, you know guys
that that that that took wagers and on the street.
And you know, I never do a bookie. I don't
know bookies. I never used one. But they're around, They're

(23:16):
still around. I have friends that still use them, okay,
even with legal sports wagers because their offerings are better
than some of the sports books. So you know, sports
wager has been around forever. We have scandals in baseball
and basketball. We have none of football. I don't think
quite to the same level. There's inherent reasons for that.
We could talk about in a few minutes. But we

(23:38):
have seen scandal back you mentioned the right, the nineteen
nineteen Black Sox, right, Uh, you're you know, like you
know like the like there's there's point shaving scandals in
college basketball. There's obviously an officiating scandal in the NBA.
Like we've seen these.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
From college football with Northwestern correct State, right.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
And so we've seen asu I thought wasn't was football
or basketball.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
There was also a football also football one. So when
you listen to those schemes, you hear about how long
they went, how deep they went, and the reason that
they often get caught back in the day was because
of something else. It wasn't for the actual thing that
they were doing at the time. It just sort of
got caught up and they got caught do other things

(24:28):
and that became part of it.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
There was a lot of organized crimes.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
So what happened is on the wiretaps they discovered like
the Boston College basketball which is infamous because of the
movie Goodfellas, and they were, you know, they got caught
on a wire tat talking about it and that's that's
how that got uncovered.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
So my, So again, these scandals have happened before, they've
happened on a very large scale, and they've happened for
years without us noticing. Okay, so here come legal sports books.
And the two things have happened, right. One is that
we have a broader access to these wagers, absolutely, but

(25:10):
we also have more eyeballs to wagers. If I place
a wager today, if you place a wager today, anyone
places a wager, obviously, they have computer technology to know
your history, who that who the person is, where you're
placing the bet, all those things right, And so with
the ability to wager more things comes the technology to

(25:35):
know immediately whether or not a wager is essentially a
red flag, right, And so with legal sports wagering, they're
able to catch these criminals and these players that are
cheating and fixing their player props or the games. Right,
Chauncey billup and he seems like he might have fixed
some games. Again, it's all accusations, so may have. We

(25:58):
don't know, you know, until he goes to try or whatever.
And and so with the legalization of sports wagering, there
are more eyeballs to every wager being placed, and these
schemes are caught much faster now than they ever been
caught before. If I and like, if I go to
you know, to put a let's sad a wager X

(26:19):
amount of money, ten dollars on a wager, right, and
all of a sudden, I wager fifty on a player
prop agah, a player prop is you know, let's say,
let's use the Lebron, right, you know I can wait.
I'll give you a perfect example.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
Emmanuel Classe, all right, which is the Cleveland closer who
was betting, who was throwing balls and strikes. You can
bet live, so you can bet whether he throws a
ball or strike. So the minute they start betting ten
thousand dollars on a on a pitch, which nobody else does,

(26:54):
it tricks the algorithm and it says a red flag.
So any of these that there's an ordered amount of
action on, it's a red flag to all the books.
Because the books are all connected, the algorithm will sniff
it out.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
Yes, a good example. I mean there are other examples
where you know, the the you know, the Alabama baseball
coach is trying to place one hundred thousand dollars on
a college basebook came on a Tuesday, So you know,
these sports books are very aware of these irregular patterns,
are able to flag them, and and and you know
they have technology and software and companies are able to

(27:30):
you know, to flag these and and and do uh investigations.
So I I know people will say that the reason
these this happens is legal sports wagering. Yes, and no,
we've had the scannals like this before. There's more ways
to wager now, but also more eyeballs to it. I
would argue that the eyeballs are are very helpful to

(27:51):
to unscover these schemes much quicker if if Chauncey billups
again all accusations, if Chancy Billis was was throwing games,
he could do this for maybe years without notice in
the back of the day. You know, just again to
your point, you know, like you have a foul lay
in a game, you know, you know, you're like, well,
you know, in nineteen ninety you can probably get away

(28:12):
with that a little bit more than us having eyeballs
to every single thing that happens. And there's there are
tweets that people are retweet themselves of them calling out
situations like you mentioned in the first segment of the
Blazers being like wait, what are they doing? And so
so it's it's good and bad, right, It's good that
we have technology to do this, and maybe it's bad.
I'm maybe not biased towards sports wager. I cover it,

(28:35):
I like doing it. I understand people that are against it.
But the outrage to ban wagering over this, to me
is a little overblown.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
Well before we get to that car, I mean, I
think there's a inherenty. Here's a couple of inherent issues
that go beyond before we even discuss that. I know
you're passionate about it. So I get it, but you
have to admit that it is Pandora's box.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Listen. I like it too. I grew up with it,
like I get it, like I do it like you
I do a uh.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
You know, media is fueled by the ad money ad
dollars of sports bucks, right like, so we're all complicit
in this thing. And I think in a you know,
utopian society, it's okay, it's all just fun. But there's
a dark world to it. There's a heavy darkness to it.

(29:30):
And it doesn't you know, I don't think it doesn't
affect you, but it affects a lot of people. And
you know, one of the things with the props is
it adds. It does add a cloak of wondering what's
real and what's not real. Like I just say to you,

(29:53):
I'm out tonight. And you heard Michael Porter Junior say
this on the podcast. Hey man, it's like one game
of eighty two. So if I if I, if I
tell all my friends back home, hey man, I'm out. Man,
bet on me for this one game. I'm going to
make you guys, can make you know, twenty grand whatever
it is, whoever the money is, and I'll just you know,

(30:17):
leave early. It's when they do it time and time again.
Like if it's if there's one thing it's it'll it'll
red flag it. But it's not going to completely have
the tilt button gone. Its just the prop stuff can
be dangerous. And then we haven't even discussed college because

(30:38):
like NBA is one thing you know where you guys
got you know, pro sports where you're making you think
the players above reproach because the salaries are so astronomical,
but A, you know, you guys go through it.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
We've seen good guys go through fortunes. B there there is.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
A whole other green element to it to once you
builped apparently is one of them.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
And then all the college stuff, the bilps think, I
just look and look and you listen to like two
mobsters sort of talk about this, you know, and they
say basically that your athletes have this competitive drive as
we know, and we're able to sort of you know,
you know, get into that right, and then they get
into debt to us and they have to throw games
essentially right or throw their player props. So, oh, it's

(31:29):
a debt. And then you mentioned Michael Porter, and it's
certainly true. Where like you know, just hook your boys
up with a game where you're not going to play.
And but again, those get flagged pretty easily, and if
that's a pattern, they get figured out. And so you know,
against essentially banning this type of of of activity or
the legality of it, I'm not sure solves very much

(31:52):
of it. Again, it's still available. But the thing that
I I, I just I find so interesting about this. Obviously,
gambling is a vice, right, just like other things are vices,
and the outrage towards just this one vice when there's
not the same for other things to me, and maybe
it's just everyone's in the moment of complaining about gambling.

(32:15):
To me, just I find that just odd.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
Yeah, But but it's it goes hand in him with sports.
Well that's well, that's why because of the integrity, like
you know, guy all drugs. You know, it's just it
hurts himself and his family. It's horrible, right, But the gambling,
it hurts the game. You know, it does. Know you're

(32:39):
right about that, but you know, people seem very okay
with other vices and then terms of sports wager and
it's the worst thing ever. That's just I mean of
that but yeah, when one second, brother, we gotta take
we gotta take a quick respite. We'll come right back

(33:00):
and it will be talking about this all morning. We
will get to all the football and we will get
the picks. It's all part of it. But it's necessary
conversation with a fellas Jeff Schwartz, Anthony gar I got
to hanging out right here on Fox Sports Radio and
Jeff hanging out from the Fox Sports Radio studios. So

(33:26):
it with this, like, if you put the other vices aside, right, Like,
let's just talk about what the betting piece is. If
my fear is like, I think you're right. I think
that with it being regulated, it weeds stuff like this

(33:49):
app like it makes the game. You know, it can
help with integrity, right, And you're right that in years past,
especially before the salary boom, right where guys you know,
they were easier to get to absolutely right, and and
now but now with like we got to we have

(34:11):
other issues with it, like wealth gap in society. Uh,
and with all that stuff going on, you had thought
that the players were impervious to it because of salaries.
And I think it's I think it's fair to say
for the most part, the the my my biggest fear

(34:32):
with the whole thing, because I could see I could
see both of it is with gambling losing its stigma
around sports, are we creating a country of young action junkies?

Speaker 2 (34:46):
Right? Like?

Speaker 3 (34:48):
You know you know, like listen, you know I love
it too, Like it's it's it's it's you gotta be
careful because it's I'm a competitive person, right Like, so
I played sports my whole didn't play at your level,
but I played my whole life. Love it like I'm
my whole life sports I did. I love everything about it.
I love competition. Yeah, and that's part of it, right, Like,

(35:13):
like I have to tell I have to tell you
a story. My son who's twelve, who's a sports kid.
I hear him say he got where. I was watching
a game and he says like, I got thirty thousand
on the Tigers. And I go, what what are you
talking about? And he goes, oh, yeah, daddyah and uh
he goes yeah, I got thirty thousand on the Tigers

(35:35):
and the school ball And I go, wait a second,
what do you what do you what are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (35:40):
So he shows me his phone and there's an app.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
Now obviously it's not real money, but it's an app,
and all it is is a gateway to this thing.
So I had a whole conversation about it, and you know,
and I got rid of the app and the whole
nine like that. That's that's awful, right, like the play money.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
And here's the issue.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
They got kids get in trouble maxing out credit cards
and not only knows what else because you start off
with a fifty dollars SGP and it's fun or whatever
it is, or five dollars and it becomes fifteen and
it's the next thing you know, you're you're you're stuck.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
And that's my.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
Fear with it being above board, I do like I
see what you see, Like, I think it could be
a good I say good, but I think it can
be helpful in keeping the integrity.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Now, college is a whole other thing, right, And there's
a scandal with Eastern Mission basketball. But again, in the
college basketball world, wheres I think it's easiest to do
any of this stuff. It gets caught pretty quick. Again,
I mean that it happens, it's happening. But also you know,
when you read the stories about happening in college basketball,
it's like we notice two games and we stopped taking

(36:58):
money on those games. It's happens fairly quickly now, right.
But college basketball, because they're so many games, right and
on a given weekend or night weeknight, the players are
not getting as much nil as football players, and football
is like I think, nearly possible to fix. Anyways, it
just ends up being in a situation where college basketball
is right for this. And again when we hear about

(37:19):
college basketball, it's always like the Eastern Michigan's right, and
the smaller schools there was a whole scandal right now,
the investigation to I think even a smaller conference right,
because you can manipulate those a little bit more. Look
as far as the kids, right, worry about the kids, Okay,
I believe, and I think you agree with me, Like
it's a you mentioned your job as a parent, right

(37:41):
and you talk to your son about it, that it's
our my job as a parent to talk to my
kids about sports wagering. Obviously, I do it. My kids
know I do it. I discuss the pros and cons
with them about I talked to them about all the
time about wagering. Only the amount that you can afford
to lose right and being able to stop if needed,
and all those things. Same with I would imagine those
discussions have kids when it comes time to drinking right

(38:01):
and and other things that they can get into as teenagers.
You know it's our job to do that. I don't
know if it's the regulator's job to do that for
us as parents. Now, if you remove those devices, if
you're advices, they're not, They're not obviously there for us
to talk about. But just like anything else, addiction is terrible.

(38:23):
But does that mean that, like we just eliminate the
whole thing, you know what I mean, Like I I
don't believe in that. I'll be honest with you, I
don't know.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
I mean if you ask me, If you ask me
like you would like see it very similarly. But when
you embra when a society embrace stuff and normalizes stuff,
is it to the detriment? Like if you open if
more people know about this stuff, like it was always there,

(38:56):
I could tell you, like you said, it's been there.
I grew up in the neighborhood where there's a booking
on every corner, right like in South Philly, like it.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Was part of it. Speaking about South there's a documentary
on Netflix right now about the Philly Mob. Yeah, I
have you watched it? It's good. I mean I don't
I don't know any about the Philly Mob, just learning
it from the documentary, any any truth to what I'm
It's good. Did you watch it yet? Yeah? You know,
I know, I grew up in that world, so I
kind of know it. Oh, it's it's a good show.

(39:25):
I don't know nothing. I knew nothing about the Philly Mob. Yeah,
so watching it.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
I actually wrote a scripted version of it around it.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
But there are some characters in this documentary that are like, yeah,
that's a Philly gangster. Like they're very like You're like, oh, yeah, okay,
he fits the mold.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
Yeah yeah, I know, like you know, yeah, I was
just some square kid around so I you know.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
I'm sure you saw Yeah, no, I know, but like
you know, you just don in any.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
Neighborhood, you know, like you know, it's like at New York,
it's you know, it's part of that whole world. But yeah,
I mean, well, I'm sure we'll dive into it even further.
It's just I worry about the society and that embraces
any of that stuff, right, like, I'm not saying we're
gonna be Puritans, but I just gotta be careful.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
Where the fellas right here? Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
Good morning, good morning, good morning.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
That'd be happy. Fox Sports Saturday. It's the sports equinox,
that's right, All four sports in action, Jeff Schwartz, Anthony
Gargan hanging out of here every week, fellas, don't forget project,

(40:48):
and I will be back next week. In fact, to
my man, Jeff, for give me an extra hour this
morning to hang out. Uh man. We all are two
teams Thursday night, Chargers and Vikings, and we're gonna get
back to the gambling conversation.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
To the NBA and everything else. But I want to
mix it in some football here.

Speaker 3 (41:11):
And you saw one team with a franchise quarterback and
the other with not a franchise quarterback. Oh god, jep oh.
I feel bad for Vikings fans that have to deal
with that. Oh.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
So, the NFL is such interesting sport. It's a sport
where you can't you shouldn't. You can you shouldn't judge
teams off one week performances, right right. The charge are a
great example. They played the Colts on Sunday and got
destroyed right like. It wasn't even a fair a fair game.

(41:51):
It just it just wasn't. It wasn't it wasn't fair.
They lost thirty eight twenty four, and again that honestly
wasn't even that close, okay, And then they come on
Thursday on Thursday and dominate the Vikings, who defensively still
good right, offensively their challenge at the moment, and the
Chargers look like a much better team. Now. Part of

(42:12):
that was they got they got much healthier the offensive line,
Joe Alt back, and that makes a big difference for them.
An the you know, the the younger players on offense
are starting to figure things out. And they were without
Derwood James for a good portion of that game. He
got hurt. He had played every step of the season
until then. But Phil Mack is back, and their pass
rush looked pretty good against the beat up Vikings. The

(42:35):
Vikings are beat up, right. Their offensive line is not
is not good right now because of all the attrition
they've had there. And then of course Carson wentz right,
I know he's in a lot of pain. I get it.
I mean, that's that's football. Sometimes you got to play
through that, maybe they should taken him out the way
he was grimacing and looked like he was in enough
pain where it was affecting his pay. I think it

(42:58):
was it would have been fair to take him out
of the game. But obviously Max Brosmur is your option there.
You probably don't want to go there. But you know, again,
like I feel for Carson, what's having to play through that?
But that is football you put in and if you're
on the field playing, you're on the field playing, like
that's just what it is. Okay. But what we're seeing
with a lot of backups, and this is true with

(43:19):
Wentz and everyone else, is you know, the more they play,
the less good it is. Yeah, And the more ones
has to play, the less good is for for Minnesota.
And you know, they're a team that let Sam Darnald
go is I think they should have. They seem oddly
like they're slow playing McCarthy coming back on the field.

(43:40):
Maybe they're doing that for for reasons we don't know.
But they're in a really tough spot right now because
they're they're three and four off obviously the five seed
last year in a great season last year, but their
schedule coming up is Lions, Ravens, Bears, Packers, Seahawks, Commander's Cowboys.
I think they're looking at it at a season that

(44:03):
is going to surprise them because of who they're playing
and really lack of production at quarterback. Even when McCarthy
comes back, he's he doesn't playing any football, man, like
he isn't playing football. So I'm worried about the Vikings.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
Man.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
I think they're in a world.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
I think they're done. I hate to say it, I can.
I think you're done. They're done. They're cooked. As the
kids say, yeah, yeah, they're done. I just don't the schedule.
I went through it yesterday. We were talking about the
landscape of the NFC, and I don't see how you

(44:38):
overcome this. And the problem is their defense is good,
but it's not It's not a unit that could carry you.
It's not exceptional, and you just can't overcome that quarterback play.
It's a shame, it really is. And I had I
was talking Baldy about this about Donald because we were

(45:02):
both kind of like like you. I was like, well,
I want to sign him either. But his point is, dude,
he's first of all, he's good. You're not looking at
him like you know, I know he melted it down
in the playoff game, but he's a good quarterback who
can win you games.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
And you didn't have that.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
You had a question mark and the kid and that's it,
which is kind of egregious.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
Yeah that was his point. Yeah, well look here, My
point on this was quite simple, is that you drifted J. J.
Mccarth think it be your starting quarterback in the future,
and he hadn't even played yet and they give up
on him, in my mind, was malpractice. That's the ways
of a dry and that happens, and we've seen him
before anything new and the way Donald play at the

(45:54):
end there, you just can't justify paying quarterback that much
money who doesn't play well in the two biggest games
of the season.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
Right just it's just really really hard to do that.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
So that's where they're at right now. They are a
team that you know, feels extremely flawed because their quarterback
play is not very good. And the longer backups play
in this league, we see, not not just with with them,
with every team that has a backup plays it's good
for a while until it's not and not as happening now.

(46:25):
And I think they have a good coach, they have
a good ross. Now the fame of the defense. That's
pretty interesting, and that's what we've always talked about defense.
So offensively, our job is to score points, right, that's
our job. Duh Okay, I'm not sayingthing we don't know,
and we're tasked with just doing that over and over.
areaIn as much as possible, right, that's our job to
score points. And so we don't need like the emotional

(46:49):
support of the defense to do that, right because defense
allows zero points are fifty five points. Our job is
to score points, no matter what. Defense. To me, the
way I felt about this is that they need emotional
support from an offense over sixty minutes to play as
best as possible. Its defense is obviously very physically taxing,

(47:12):
right You're you're chasing the ball carrier and the quarterback
and then the wide receivers around the field. It's an
emotional position, right. Players on defense tend to be a
little more as an offense, more sancual, and it's difficult
to continue to basically do that job when your offense
can't give you a little bit of support. And we

(47:33):
see this quite often where good defenses falter when offenses
can't give them something also to correct and also to
do it. Just like with also two, it's fair to say,
like again, defenses they run a lot. They need time
on the bench. If your offense goes three and out,
three and out, three and out, they get tired. It's

(47:53):
like it's that simple, right, So, so I don't know
if the Viking's defense is as bad as you you'd
say it was bad. Maybe over did it can't. It
can't overcome the offense. It can't. It can't. And I think,
and like we see this again all the time, there's
nothing new, So I think it's it's when they get
McCarthy back, maybe it's different for them, for them defensively,

(48:15):
but until then, it feels like the Vikings are kind
of stuck in this cycle where they just they're not
playing complimentary team football and it's going to cost them
a playoff spot this season. And I I forget how
I haven't in my previous this year. I don't know
if I had him as a playoff team, but it's
just that's the way that the NFL works sometimes, and

(48:36):
unfortunately they're a team that was too beat up. Now.
The Chargers are interesting story, man, because I maybe I
I left him for dead a little bit too soon,
but that was look Herbert Man thinking about Herbert's kind
of frustrated, Like he has these great moments. He sort
of has moments where it doesn't look like it should,

(48:56):
but he when he is on man, he is freaking
off buddy. It is. It is so it looks legs,
he's using his legs, receivers catch for him when he's healthy.
All these things are are just it was. It's fun
to watch. So I look, I root for Herbert. I
like Herbert to do well, and I'm happy that it

(49:18):
seems like everyone's getting healthy and on that offense and
he's just playing much better.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
Yeah, I'm a Herbert fan. I think if you're going
to create a quarterback in a lab, it would be Herbert.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
Would you know? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (49:30):
He throws, you know, it makes every throw. He's mobile,
He's a great athlete, you know, I mean he's he's
I think like you doing he is.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
Uh, he's playing good ball. Now.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
The NFC, well, the Vikings and how the Vikings. You
and I both think that they're clupped. This is the
time of year where you start to kind of separate teams,
start to separate themselves and if we dive into the NFC,
there was a huge one. The Eagles are in a

(50:06):
weird spot to defend the champs because I still think
that they're going to win the division. But AJ Brown
is not playing on Sunday, and there's a lot of
heat around AJ Brown. Even after the two touchdown game
on Sunday, he put out a cryptic social media post.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
Don't I don't get him, but I mean you can
shed some light on him. I don't understand. Like I
played with Divas before, a wide receiver. Normally, if you
catch your touchdowns that that deva goes away for that week.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
I don't know I can explain. I was surprised, honestly,
I was surprised that that came back out because Aj
is a is not tarall Owen's like to use the
Eagles example. He's not you know that kind of guy, right.
He's very thoughtful. He's a real intelligent guy. I think

(51:07):
he has you know, some some he's talked about it,
you know, some issues, stress and anxiety and that sort
of thing.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (51:22):
I know that there's him and the quarterback are not
do not see eyed I Jalen and him, and it's
been a kind of an issue with both receivers. But
last week I thought Jalen played really well. I thought
he made throws. I thought as a thrower, he played
one of his best games, and he finally coincided with

(51:43):
him being under center where he embraced it. So I
was shocked, to be honest with you, brought that a
j Brown came out and that's been an issue this
week and they say it's a hamstring, you know, but
there's a lot of conjecture about him.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
Do you think he's a trade it?

Speaker 3 (52:01):
No, okay for the deadline now you have to take
a forty two million dollar cap hit.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
That would put me out of that too, So I
understand get that. Yeah, It's just it's interesting. I think
I think that the NFC, like I still default to
the Eagles as of right now, even though I think
the Rams are not better as the wrong where they
lost the Eagles, but they played obviously their first half
they were great. The Eagles look at it's it's hard

(52:34):
to defend a championship. As we know, lot of eyeballs
to the offense of Jalen Hurts. Yet last week was
a good game. The question is like for Hurts, Like,
is that a sustainable offense? Right? Like, is that something
that he week after a week? I haven't seen that
quite yet this season, Barkley. I think that Barkley's production
this year was very predictable just in the history of

(52:56):
NFL running backs in that position and how how physically
is I'm not surprised he's having a tougher season this year.
But the offensive line has not been healthy, which has
been a huge issue for them.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
And again this week you're without your center in Cam Jurgens.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
The look, guys, the thing about the offensive line is
that it really is like the heartbeat of your team,
and you take your cues off your offensive line, and
you take your you know, your intensity, your physicality as
a team and like you know you you just and
the Eagles have been this physical team, right this team

(53:36):
that relies on on being up its opponent. When your
offensive line is at healthy, it's really hard to do that,
and it changes the identity of your team, it really does.
And so the Eagles have got to find a way
with the injuries to find that identity back. And it's
it's hard, it's not easy to do. I'm not saying
it's like the Eagles can just flumpuswhich and do it,
but it matters, man Like, there's a reason why the
best teams the NFL have the best offensive lines. It

(53:58):
does matter. Eagles have had that for so many years now.
So to me a Philly it's about just the sustainability
of what we saw last week offensively, you know, can
you do that week after week and throw the ball
quite that way?

Speaker 3 (54:10):
Now?

Speaker 2 (54:10):
No, Aj Brown? This weekend the Giants, man, they host
the Giants. Tell you what, man, the Giants I got. Look,
I I didn't think. I don't know if I thought
Dart would work this quickly. But he's he's good like darts. Yeah,
and so he's really good. And so the Giants team
is not as good as the Eagles this weekend, but
they beat him two weeks ago and a big game

(54:32):
for both these teams. The Giants are not a playoff team,
but I mean, just after what happened last week, a
confidence builder in Philly. Philly is a hard place to play, man,
and so being able to to go into Philly after
you beat him a couple of weeks ago again a
win would I think obviously would do wonders for the

(54:52):
confidence of this Giants team. I'm curious about this game.
It's an a game I have on one of my TVs.

Speaker 3 (54:58):
How hard is it to beat a team, especially when
you're in the undernall twice in three weeks?

Speaker 2 (55:05):
Yeah, you know, I've I've you know, I've played these
uh these games twice in three weeks. I think the
interesting thing about you know, the this discussion is like,
so you're the Giants and you beat the Eagles, Okay,
this now they beat thembout two three thursdays ago. I
think it was do you change your game plan from

(55:27):
the first game? Right? It worked? It worked, you won.
Philly now knows how you beat them. They're gonna have
answers for that. That to me is the toughest part. Physically,
it's just the same, it's still tough, but mentally, what
do you do? Do you change? Do you do the
same stuff you've been doing? That I think is always

(55:49):
the most fasting part about rematches, and so I'm curious
to see if if things change in this game. For
that reason, it look Philly obviously, when you lose, I
think you have the upper the upper hand and making
schematic changes. So what does Philly do differently? And then
for this game, you know the Giants just mentally, how

(56:09):
are they after last week? I mean, dude, am my things.
You know they allowed thirty three points in the fourth quarter.
Thirty three points not college football in the NFL. They
allowed thirty three points to the Broncos and loss. That
is very hard to do. And how do you mentally come.

Speaker 3 (56:27):
Back from that? And here's a you're also playing and
you know there's been there anybody because you've done it.
It's hard coming off for Denver week.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
Yeah, feel gets you. Album, really gets you. I'll explain
that too quickly. It's not really actually during the game
in my I've experienced, it's Monday and Tuesday your your
lungs burn a little bit. You know, you just you
feel a little more than playing in other places. And
that's it.

Speaker 3 (56:54):
And that's a big deal, man, Like you know, now
you got to come back, you got to play a
familiar team.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
I was talking to buddy of mine.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
Who's going to a coach in the league, and I
just asked him about that.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
He said, you know what's weird. He goes a lot
of times.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
You think you know that team so much, so inside
and out that you tend to underprepare and overanalyze.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
In division games.

Speaker 3 (57:20):
Yeah, he said, you are, because you're playing them in
the second time in three weeks. You underprepare, but you overanalyze.
So you already have all your data and everything you need.
So it's always goes back to redaling your game plan,
and he said you wind up overanalyzing it.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
I'm not surprised that does doesn't surprise me. And again,
which coach can do that better? Who can make the adjustments?
But it feels like a really big game for both
of these teams because you know, again, like the what
the Giants are trying to build culturally and what the
Eagles continue to have to do is you get need
to play well offensively and build up this run game,

(58:04):
buildut this pass game, and get some confidence back with
another win.

Speaker 3 (58:09):
Yeah. Yeah, they they they need to do it. There's
there's a lot of there's a lot here's the problem
with that. But listen, they're in a good spot sitting
at five and two.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
If you win your goal, you're six and two.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
You go into the into the bye week, and you
gotta you gotta pretty much straggle hold on the division.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
But if you lose, you're.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
Five and three, and then the first WHO game, then
you have a stretch of the Green Bay on a
Monday Night at Green Bay Home Detroit, the Sunday Night Dallas,
Chicago on Black Friday, and the Act the Chargers.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
Yeah, that's five tough games. Yeah, that's the drag when
you have a tough division to play in the ANFC West,
and then also just a first play schedule. And that's
that's that's why the NFL is king man. They schedule
schedule tough and it makes it hard for for you know,
team sustained success for that reason.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
Yeah, yeah, all right, Uh, we'll continue, uh with our
NFL conversation coming up as we dive in there. Who's
real and who's not? I think as we enter week eight,
we have an idea. He's Jet Schwartz on Anthony Gargano
right here where the Fellas on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 4 (59:37):
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Speaker 3 (59:50):
Welcome back, Fellas. By the way, the Timberwolves are doing
something cool. That's Prince right. So they're gonna, uh put
the Prince court seven games this year for the Timberwolves
with the Prince sign at half court, and they have
it in purple.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
Nice.

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
Yeah, it's cool, all right. I want to get to
this and we'll get back to the gambling thing. We'll
get back to the World Series. But I love our
NFL talk and a couple of teams. I want to
get to about being real right now, because I do
think by week eight teams start to identify themselves. Would

(01:00:34):
you agree, yes, my old season, Yes, So let's start
in the AFC with the cults, because my boy's southside
Chuck great listener and give me a yo. He's like, dude,
Danny dives cults for real. But it's like, yeah, you
got an elite running back. You got a quarterback that

(01:00:56):
knows what he's doing, good receivers, great tight end, and
a very good defense, a good coaching staff.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Uh, Cults, where would you put them in the panthon?

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
Obviously you would have the Chiefs at the top, all
healthy and looking nasty. Who would be two in your
eyes to the AFC Buffalo? Still you still got Buffalo?

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
All right?

Speaker 3 (01:01:23):
I mean, I do you see any problems with the bill, like,
I agree with you. My only fear of Buffalo is
I still don't trust their offense.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
Are Josh still wants to do too much interesting? But
I think I think they'll figure out their offense. I'm
not going to bother. I don't sure about their defense now.
Milano might be back this week. But about their receivers, dude, yeah,
it's not it's not. Their receivers aren't great, but I
mean Kansas City has won many times without great receivers.
I think I think that Josh Allen's not damn if
a player can figure it out. Look, I would put

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Buffalo ahead of them. And if you're asking me like
who I trust or whatever, Buffalo be ahead of them.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
Yes, right right, I might disagree with it, but I do.
I am a little They don't look right. They're done
off off about them. We'll see and look, they come
here to Charlotte tomorrow. We'll see how how real they'll
tell you Saturday?

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
Right, Yes, well, they look tomorrow at one o'clock off
their buy and they have the Chiefs in two weeks,
you know, Chiefs again for the fifth straight year in
a row. I think it's actually in Buffalo again. Like, yeah,
well we're gonna find out more about both those teams
in that in that game. Look, thinking about the Colts, man,
they're like historically good at offense, which just it blows

(01:02:38):
your mind. I think with the personnel.

Speaker 3 (01:02:40):
They have.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
Took credit for them, but their defense is just not great.
I don't know no better way to put it. Like
it's fine on defense, and so that what holds them
back in the end. But yeah, Buffalo Kansas City to me,
or like winning the AFC or ahead of them. Think
about though, when we get to the Super Bowl. I

(01:03:04):
believe it's in Santa Clair this year, right, San Francisco
Ors Home our stadium. Do you envision the end of
that game Daniel Jones holding up the Lombardi Trophy. No,
that's that's the end game, right, Like, that's the end game.
The Colts are probably the one seed, look at their schedule,
the way they're playing. But in the end, do we

(01:03:27):
think it's Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Daniel Jones
that that's no. Answer is no, And it's again maybe
that's an unfair standard to hold a Colts to. That
we should not discredit them. They're playing great well, they're
the credit they're getting.

Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
We're talking about that because they are getting discredited and they're.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
I don't think anymore. I think now, like even me
who was like, well I don't believe in them, it's
now time to give that. They're they're. I mean, they
went in the Los Angeles and beat up a good
Chargers team.

Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
I think what makes it so dangerous is made Jovi
Taylors such. They got a good front, and Jovin Taylor's
such an eleap back, but he's a great back. He
does not get the love and fanfare that all their
backs get.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
I did something this week I never thought I would do.
I bet I running back to an MVP, and I
took him sixty to one. And the reason I did
it was the MVP often comes from the one seed
an offense, the quarterback, and it's not going with Daniel Jones.
And running backs have won the award three times in

(01:04:39):
this century. They've all had historic seasons. Right, Sean Xander
had two thousand yards, LT had the touchdown record, and
then Adrian Peterson the Divikens team. I was on nine
yards short of Eric Tickerson, right, so he nearly twenty
one hundred yards Russian and and you look at the
landscape right now, the favorite Mahomes Allen and Mahomes is

(01:04:59):
playing great here. I don't know if he's MVP. Mahomes.
Jonathan Taylor is on track to set them to have
the most touchdowns of the season, like if they are
the one seed. Jonathan Taylor storing the discussion of an MVP.

Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
Yeah, I mean through seven games, he's got almost seven
hundred yards and ten touchdowns. Yeah, yeah, ten touchdowns. It's
a great bet.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
So I took I took it this week, just a small,
little little sprinkle, right, and so I'm curious to see,
I think. But I think the overriding point is that
while I don't really envision the Colts winning the Super Bowl,
that shouldn't take away from what they've done so far
this season. But if we're ranking teams to win the AFC,

(01:05:42):
they're not ahead of Kansas City or Buffalo. You got
but you got it squarely. Third though, until I see
the Ravens come back healthy. Yeah, but even then, I
mean the Ravens weren't have Still I think I have
some defensive issues. It's funny, man, the Ravens lamark Jackson
has a played in weeks, they're one in five and
then nearly a touchdown favorite. It's the four and two

(01:06:05):
Bears this weekend. Yeah. Yeah, and you would think, I
mean when you get Lamar back.

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
And and they had I mean, this is it like
you gotta go on a run and.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
They the schedule set up easy for them. Yeah, it
permits them to go to run. Yeah, you know the
other team, you know, age in the NFL is such
a unique league where you know, I don't know if
individual game results matter as much to predicting the future. Like,

(01:06:36):
for example, when the Chargers get healthy, their offensive line
gets healthy, Derwyn James is back in the lineup. Clil
Mack is, you know, clear a few more weeks of
the elbow injury, and he's back to feeling it the
way he should. I know, I know they just lost
the Colts. I get that, but I don't think I
put it past the Chargers beating them in the playoffs.

(01:06:57):
You know, like it's just funny how the I agree
that I'm a hardball man, and so he just wins everywhere. Then. Yeah.
The other question is like Denver five and two Denver,
I think they're Fugezzy, I don't buy Denver at all. Yeah,
I kind of. I think I agree with you there.
Let's go NFC.

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
Because I'm telling you, I'm a little worried about the Cowboys. Man,
and they look that offense is legit. Dak is playing
great football. He's getting the ball out man, three seconds,
that ball's out. Pickens is playing great football, no knucklehead stuff.

(01:07:42):
Tavante Williams is healthy, and I mean they're they're good. Ferguson, Yeah,
they just play no defense, buddy. Right well, I'm just
talking about their offense right now.

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
Their offense looks great. I mean, Dak is as incredible.
The thing is that that I think we're a little
unfair to Dak because he's been hurt so much. But
when Dak has been healthy, they've been very good. It's
been a hallmark of them, Like they've been a very
good team when he's healthy, and obviously he's very healthy
this season. It makes a big difference. So it's fair
to point that out, like he and you know, he's

(01:08:15):
been great, and as you mentioned, and they look at
play some some offensive line injuries, they're running back room
is fine. It's not great, but they've been able to
run the football, and Dak's been great. The problem is
their defense is just horrific, and so it's hard to
vision them, you know, really being a concern for the
Eagles over the life of a seventeen game because their
defense is just that bad. But I'm curious about their
game against Denver. They go to Denver this weekend and

(01:08:36):
we'll see Denver off that miraculous win having to play
a team like Dallas. So there's a lot of confidence
in Dallas right now. I think with how things are going,
I don't think they thought they're often to be this good,
this early in Brian Shawnheimer's tenure.

Speaker 3 (01:08:49):
Yeah, and we all question that higher And look, he's
done a good job. If i'm then I'm all in
on a pass roster man, get me edge.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
They did they have a passer rusher before what happened
to him?

Speaker 3 (01:09:05):
So had they sign him, had they signed him, had
they just done it in status quo, how good would
they have been to.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
Be able to rush the passer matter than they are now?
I know, but it's fair to say, you had Mike,
you might be able to win a division. Yes, Remember,
the NFC East has not had a repeat winner since
what twenty two thousand and four? Right, and that includes,

(01:09:38):
by the way, four four Superbowl winners in that time
period and no repeats, no repeat division winners sinceand since
two thousand and four, So it's been division that's seen
a lot of turnover.

Speaker 3 (01:09:51):
Yep, Yeah, I mean it is its sting San Francisco
with all the injuries story, you know, decimated decimated by injuries.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
Damn an easy schedule too, how how are they real?
Are they? For Gazzy? So what they've done, Shandon has
done is remarkable, right, but I think eventually the defensive
injuries become a problem. Right, You just you can't lose

(01:10:28):
to all Pro defenders and Bosa, Nick Bosa their past rusher,
and Fred Warner their linebacker and those your friend Warner,
I think it's the best position in the NFL. You know,
Bosa's up there as far as you just to me,
you can't lose those guys and be good on defense
all season. And look, they're thirtieth and pass rush pressure
rate since Bosa's been out. They played so fast here

(01:10:51):
against the fact. I mean the roberts All is doing
a great job with Devin's twort air, but I think
eventually that's going to show it's you know, they play
Seattle and they play the Rams. These division games are
so important and it's going to show itself and obviously
beat the Rams already in a game when Thursday and football.
But I think over the course of the rest of
the season's we're going to show itself not having those
guys in your life. But then when party comes back,

(01:11:14):
all else will take him to get up to speed
and play. Well. A fun game this weekend with them
in the Texans and Texans this one desperately very curious
to see Mac Jones again. I think Max playing again
against a really really good defense in the Texans. It's
a legit defense on the road, and it'd be a

(01:11:34):
fun game for the Niners. Yeah, very fun gate, very
fun game. I think. I think I think they're I
think they're worth discussing obviously, you know, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:11:44):
You know, seeh I crossed off Minnesota, I crossed off Chicago.
I think Detroit is the best team in the conference.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
I'm yeah, I go Lines, It's funny how it works,
right like two weeks ago later up by the Chiefs
and you're like, Lines, I don't they have it and
then they just who they who they murdered the other day.
They's just like that's the way things change in this
in this sport. Yeah, and if they they get the
one seed. The issue with playing Detroit is you just
don't want to go to Detroit because they're they're they're

(01:12:17):
just nasty in that dome. Gibs is ridiculous. I mean,
you know, they just come at you and waves. Now.
I still think green Bay is good. I believe green
I do not believe them at all. You know, we
could do green Bay in a few minutes. I don't.
I what about green Bay makes you think that that
that I think they're asleep? Giant? I do, well, they

(01:12:39):
play like they played there asleep, so they that's right.
So I just don't. I do not buy the foot
the switch idea. Unless you're Kansas City or you're Tom
Brady in New England, I don't buy this idea. You
could just be like, oh, you know what, let's play
better now. I just I don't buy man. And so, uh,
we'll talk about the Packers here because I think that

(01:13:03):
they need to show me a little bit more. They
need to show me a little bit more from the
you know, considered one of those teams. I don't I
just don't buy it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:10):
Yeah, all right, we'll discuss that. Get back to the
NBA stuff. We got a little down week in college.

Speaker 2 (01:13:21):
These are the weeks that get us in college football.
These are these are these are them? These are them.
I got, I got, I got, I got wagers, I
got I got under in your boys game at noon today,
I think I think we're gonna see it. Just a
grind a grinded game. And uh and look at Nebraska
this morning. Yeah, well we'll go.

Speaker 3 (01:13:39):
We'll start to College round up first thing to start
the next hour. So we got plenty to do right here,
Fellas Jeff and hanging Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back, Fellas,
Jeff Schwartz, Anthony gargandam.

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
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Speaker 2 (01:14:19):
Now, let's get ready for the tire Iraq play of
the game. Let's go to the World Series.

Speaker 3 (01:14:24):
Last night, the js A nine spot, and here it
is Addison Barger with the bases loaded, swing in a.

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
High fly ball right center field.

Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
Bernandez back on the track, go on a glenslam.

Speaker 3 (01:14:46):
Madison Barger blues this game wide open nine two Blue
Jays in.

Speaker 2 (01:14:53):
The bottom of the sixth Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:14:56):
There was courtesy the Blue Jays radio network work Toronto
shocks the world, especially up to nothing in the game,
Dodgers up to nothing and Snell's on the pump and
it really got They started to get his pitch count
up a little bit because you want to get into
the Dodgers' bullpen, and they were able to kind of

(01:15:18):
knock around Snell. The big at bat by Alejandro Kirk
and the fourth that set up he roped the double
into the corner. They was played great by ta Oscar
and held Kirk to a signal. Kirk was smart because
he ropes the ball into the corner and you know,

(01:15:39):
you hate to get it just a single out of that.
He made the wide turn, but realized he wasn't going
to make it, goes back and that sets up the
Varshow home run, which I thought was a huge piece. Tonight,
eight o'clock eastern, five Pacific Yamamoto versus Gusman the night.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
Look, it's it's the fireworks yesterday. I think we're a
little unexpected, but we know that that Toronto can can
be that team. And I don't know if the doctors
thought this would be easy, but it's certainly not gonna be.
You know that they roll through the postseason for the
most part, they've really been unchallenged. Right, A lot of
games they've played and won have been games that they

(01:16:22):
have just to handle business immediately. And so this is
now gonna be a fun series. Dogs have back against
the wall. We know, we know a talented are but
the Blue Jays have the recipe for to win right.
You mentioned it. It's a good point. Like they take
they don't so many bad pitches, they don't strike out.
And then you get the daughter's bullpen, which is if

(01:16:44):
you were to kind of list weak spots on the team,
the bullpen will be high up there.

Speaker 3 (01:16:49):
Yeah, and again their lineup, they don't strike out, right,
so that's a big deal. They put the ball in
play and they attack pitchers, so they make pitchers work
like that Kirk at bat was a big deal. I
think it was like an eight pitch at bat Yeah,
he he uh, he just knows how to to kind

(01:17:10):
of waste pitches like that. That's such that's such a
great skill for a hitter to be able to waste
pitches because you you just wear a guy down.

Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
And and sooner or later you're gonna get something to drive,
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:17:28):
Do I think at times there's a there you should
go after the first pitch and you get if you're
gonna get to get me over fastball, you're sitting dead
red first pitch.

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
I mean, go for it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:39):
But there's something to be said for guys that have
the back control that can just wear you down fout pitch.
You know, it's also just a nuisance. It's annoying, like
I have to face guys like that, of course. Yeah, yeah,
I think it's I think it's gonna be a long series,
a really good series. I mean obviously Game one was

(01:18:02):
that way. I think there's could be ones tonight. So
tonight Dodgers have favored again and uh they're one thirty
five right now. Uh with a seven and a half total.
I like the Jay's again and over well again. I
mean the Jays going up to nothing would be a
huge story. And obviously put the pressure right back on.

(01:18:25):
The Dodgers have to hold court in Los Angeles.

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
So ooka. Again, I've been very clear about this. I
hope that's the case. I hope the Dodgers lose, and
so going up to nothing would be I mean again,
you got to win then two of the next five
games like it's would be a huge lead for the
Blue Jays and something that I think they're able to
close the series out. They lose tonight, who knows we
would go seven games, but they able to get tonight too.

(01:18:49):
It's done the Dodgers to be down to two when
they probably did not expect that to be down oh two.
I think you're gonna get onnes tonight too, dude. Yeah,
I don't know. I yeah, the Dodgers bats being as
quie as they weren't Game one, I would imagine more so.
I mean, who knows if the Blue doesn't scored at
the same pace they scored, you know, wow, I mean
it was you know, they put on thirteen, right or eleven?

Speaker 3 (01:19:12):
I mean you know, I mean I'm not expecting eleven,
but I'm expecting five, four or five.

Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
Yeah, I mean a total seven and a half.

Speaker 3 (01:19:21):
I think that's I mean, if you get three from
Toronto and five from the Dodgers, you win. So you know,
I think there's gonna be offense. I think that ballpark
lends itself to it's a home run ballpark. Yeah, ball travels.
I think you're gonna see. And to me, the total
ship always be over with the Dodgers only because of

(01:19:42):
their bullpen. I mean I was always looking at because
the game get out of hand.

Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
The bullpen is a problem for the Dodgers. You get in.
If you get into the bullpen, you have a chance
to win these games against them. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:19:55):
Yeah, all right, so Game two of the World Series,
World's Series in your mind, still have that Catchay?

Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
Absolutely it does. Yes, Yeah, I'm glad you said that.

Speaker 3 (01:20:06):
Yeah, all right, college football coming up next, Fellas.

Speaker 1 (01:20:11):
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Speaker 3 (01:20:16):
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Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
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Speaker 3 (01:20:52):
All right, let's uh, we've been all over the place
talking about the World Series, talking about the NBA scandal,
talking to NFL. Let us us talk college because you
had something really interesting to say. I go, well, it's
kind of a down week when it comes to matchups
this this week in college and your point was, that's

(01:21:14):
where you get bit. This is a.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
Look. These culturable this time of year because the conference
play and teams, you know, playing so many games down
to break and there's numbers showing back to back weekends
on the road of the SEC right now, the numbers
aren't great for the team playing that back to back game.
So that's old miss for example this week in Oklahoma.

(01:21:41):
Now they're underdog, but still that's Missouri a Vandy, right
they were at Auburn last weekend. Uh, you know, Alabama
having to go to South Carolina. Alabama's played four straight
really tough games and now they go to South Carolina,
who stinks? Can you get up for a fifth game
in a row? Right a break they had how to buy.

(01:22:02):
This is a week where it feels like we have
some undefeateds that you know, is BYU going to do
it again against Iowa State? Like, I don't know how
good by U is Cincinnati. They're offensively really good, defensively
kind of a struggle they host Baler. So there's a
lot of these games where it feels like, you know,
we can see a little bit of of action today

(01:22:25):
and movement you the A C C and somebody that
you know, you know, can Louisville, you know, continue as Louisville.
I don't think that. I don't actually I might not
even play this weekend, but you know, can can they
come off a big win like against Miami and and
bounce back? You I think Miami is a blow at
Stanford today, But you know, so there's there's a there's
a lot, you know, there's some movement in in the
Big ten and and you know we're getting a fourth

(01:22:46):
Big Ten team in. So there's a there's a lot
happening this weekend. And I'm looking forward to just saying
Louisville's got BC tonight they do okay, So yeah, so
can they can they do that? There's actually a huge
group of five games in between South Florida and Memphis
at noon.

Speaker 3 (01:23:00):
Well let's go, I'm gonna hit you at the gain.
Let's just go through the top twenty five. And this
is what you got early Indiana on big new kickoff
as u c l A. Obviously they're a huge favorite.
What a great story Indiana and Signetti is and you got.

Speaker 2 (01:23:18):
U c l A. Yeah, I think I think Indiana
is gonna boat race in u CLA today. So a
couple a couple of notes here. The Bruins unbelievable, right,
So they fire chomos Are after Game three. They lose
Northwestern in Game four, but the second half of that game,

(01:23:41):
their offense sort of came alive a little bit. Uh huh.
They go in to bye week, they they they fired
the OC and let Joey new has a call, plays
you beat Penn State, they beat Michigan State, they beat Maryland.
But one thing we've noticed, and this is this is football,
it's it's tendency is start to show the offense has

(01:24:02):
been worse in every week. Right, So Week one against
Penn State with new offense, fifty one percent success rates.
So I mean you know, do you get them out
of yards you're supposed to do on a given play?
Six touchdowns? Right, score forty two points. It's Michigan State.
The next week, success rate comes down a little bit
less points Maryland. This past Saturday, okay, success rate comes

(01:24:22):
way down forty one percent. Nico im ali Alva. Their quarterback.
A little bit worse every week, right in this new offense.
Third down a little bit worse every week in this
new offense. So it's just this is natural. It's it's
not I'm not saying this is unnatural. But they're playing
Indiana team who obviously beat my Ducks, have a huge
amount of respect for what they do, and they are

(01:24:43):
just so steady in what they do that it feels
very difficult for me to see UCLA the way they play,
the way they are playing. It's a it's an early
bodyclock game. It's a nine am Pacific kickoff. Right, it's
twelve Eastern, And I just think this is I this
would not surprise me if this was like forty nine
to ten, like we're like, oh, that that was a

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pretty big win for Indiana. I you sell this story
is great. I think this is a different game for
them than they've had the last three weeks.

Speaker 3 (01:25:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree. I think that Indiana teams
is a buzzsaw. I also at noon, a great game.
This is gonna be fascinating. Old Miss oaklahhome sooners five
and a half. It begins the ABC triple header.

Speaker 2 (01:25:37):
Yeah, so, man, this one's fun. I so Old Miss
scored thirty five at Georgia last weekend. I lost, and
they had thirteen yards in the fourth quarter or something
like that. It's a low number like that. They did
play really well, so they didn't And I was very
impressed because they have a young quarterback, a Division two transfer,
first year in Vision one a f BS it is

(01:26:03):
FBS right, Football Subdivision and Football Bowl Division whatever it is.
And and that was the first time he played in
a road game. He missed the first road game this
year with injury, and I thought he was so poised.
I was actually very surprised the way Old Miss played
in that game. Now they're back on the road against Oklahoma,
and I emotionally, how do they handle that loss? Pretty

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tough loss last weekend? Can you get yourself back up
to play another good team in Oklahoma? The question I
have about the Sooners is Jo Matier started out really
hot this season, right, can he continue building back after
his his injury to his thumb and not playing well,

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you know against against Texas. They played South Carolina last week.
South Carolina stinks. They dominated that game. I think, I
just think there's too many points in this game. Man.
Oklahoma's offense, it's so reliant on John Matier. They don't
run the ball terribly well. They don't. They don't, you know,
like you, I'm supposed to plays if oldness mentally mentally

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is recovered from last weekend, this feels like a spot
that they can go to Oklahoma and win. Yeah, I
don't know, man, I hear you, I hear you. A
tough spot, man, tough spot for him, very tough. So

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I mean that's it's it's it's hard. It's hard to
be hard to hard to hard to win, you know,
I know.

Speaker 3 (01:27:40):
It's it's funny like I understood, you know, years ago.
I'll never forget talking to Andy Reid. Like I learned
more about football from Andy than anybody else I've ever encountered.
And he one day I was talking to him. It

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was like I think it was a month the players
were just coming for treatment. It was like a Monday,
and I was just kind of with him and.

Speaker 2 (01:28:11):
He was like, they won. It was like ugly and
people were like.

Speaker 3 (01:28:15):
Eh, you know, because everybody wants style points, right, So
we were just kind of talking about the game.

Speaker 2 (01:28:22):
He's like, let me tell you something. It's so hard
to win in this league.

Speaker 3 (01:28:28):
And he starts going off on this tangent about how
hard it is to win, and it's funny because the
fan looks like, what do you mean, like somebody when
somebody loses, like, you know, you got fifty percent outcome, right,
And what's lost in translation is the amount of energy

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and that you.

Speaker 2 (01:28:53):
Just expend preparing for Sunday, right.

Speaker 3 (01:28:58):
Like all the work that goes into preparing for it,
and then the game itself is like who executes it
makes the fewest mistakes?

Speaker 2 (01:29:09):
Yes, And I mean a coaching perspective, it's it's it's
hard because you're not actually all you can do is
coach them up right, like, and they have to they
have to succeed, So it's, uh, it's it's tough as
a coach. But and then again, like when you lose
a game like that, can you again, can you what

(01:29:34):
do you do as a coach to overcome that, you
get you ready to play again. And that's what you know,
that's Penn State. Obviously we saw it didn't go very
well for Penn State. You know, Oregon were covered off
the Indiana loss, but you know, can you George's recovered
off Alabama loss. Georgia to me, I mean their resiliency
this season has been has been really fun to watch.
Or not the same team they've been in his past.

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They don't play defense quite the same way. They can't
rush the passer, but their ability to how about Chamblin says,
he gets too did a break.

Speaker 3 (01:30:03):
They don't get a stop until the fourth quarter, and
then they shut them finally shut them down in the
fourth quarter.

Speaker 2 (01:30:09):
Georgia. Yeah, no, I mean it's it's it's again the
Tennessee game, right like you're down early, just just fight
claw boom, win the game. So a lot of st
are for douay George's playing right now again. It takes
it takes a while, man, I know, I know we
don't we don't patient our society now, but it takes
time to build your program to be that resilient against

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not not against you know, bad teams, but against the
good teams. Right to be able to do that, to
top twenty five teams, to play as poorly as they
have at certain points, but also to reinvent yourself. Right.
Georgia for so many years was defensive oriented offensively sort
of not did enough is the wrong way to put it.
But they just did their job right. There wasn't they
didn't have to do extra. And now because their defense

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isn't as good offensively, they have to do more offensively,
and and they don't have Their offense line was beat up.
They don't have a great It wasn't playing great. It's
better now they got some guys back, but they don't
have like the weapons they used to have. There's no
brock Bowers on this team, right, and their ability to
just reinvent themselves. We got to score a ton of
points to be Tennessee. We store a ton of points
to be old Miss. I admire teams that can do that.

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Now again, not a lot can. That's why I probably
admire it because it's it's hard to do. It's if
it was easy, everyone would be able to do it.
So I give Georgia not even playing this weekend. As
we talk about them, but I give them a lot
of credit for what they've done. But back to old
Miss Oklahoma. I did also to Oklahoma. Just is I
think a very very public side this week. I think
everyone's in Oklahoma. So I'd like to be on the

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other side of that. Okay, the Belichicks.

Speaker 3 (01:31:43):
It gets Virginia Virginia ten and a half over North Carolina,
which actually played respectable against Cal ed we should it
be Cal? Yeah, except for the turnovers, and yeah, they
were respectable. What do you make in this one? I mean,
I think Virginia's going to score. Do you think Carolina

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is getting it?

Speaker 4 (01:32:09):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:32:09):
I don't. I don't think so. I did cal Cal.
My brother went to Cal. I follow Cal. They're not
a good barometer of anything. They Their game last night
was just it was. I don't know if you still
have to watch that game. It was, it was. It was.
They're just hard to explain. I don't know how much
you put into Cal as far as like what that

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game for North Carolina. They did fumble at the end,
which isn't good. Virginia last week came off of bye
beating Louisville. They played a really sluggish game against Washington state.
I think today they will reawaken themselves offensively. They scored
a ton of points. Caroline's defense is not good. I
think Virginia is able to handle business today. That's my

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That was my It was kind of my read on
that too. What do you make of the the like
Lombardi going to see the saudis, college sports is so
out of control, man. You got you got guys in
sided college basketball, guys side of G leaguers. It's so crazy, man. Yeah,

(01:33:21):
the game is so the gilly thing as well, for
those who missed it, Louisville signed a g L player.
The G League is basically a minor league NBA, like
you pay them. The players are paid and they're professionals essentially,
and now they can go play college basketball. But okay,
and that's certainly unique. Sure, why not? Why not? Was like,

(01:33:45):
what what do? It doesn't match what the sport has done.
But to be fair, the sport has there's no actual
like there's no, it's not the same thing anymore because
they keep losing court cases. So it's not the same
sport anymore. No, it's not. It's not.

Speaker 3 (01:34:07):
Uh, three point thirty Eastern and twelve thirty Pacific, a
great one, Miszoo and Vanderbelt. Vandy now ranked tenth in
the country. I mean, they're a lot of fun, man,
they really are. Beat LSU last week the enigma that

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is LSU, and here you go now they host Miszoo,
another good team six' one.

Speaker 2 (01:34:37):
I I think right now, getting in front of the Vandy,
you know, get getting getting in front of Vandy and
betting against them feels like the wrong thing right now
with how good they've played. One thing about them that

(01:34:58):
that's impressive is so for years, a team like Vanderbilt
was able to compete for like forty minutes of a
sixty minute game, right, because then eventually their offensive defensive
lines couldn't keep up. Right. That's that's what happens, right,
You play a bigger, better team, you play close for

(01:35:18):
forty minutes, and all of a sudden, the depth, really
the size of the of the better team takes over.
That's college football, right. But this year their offensive line
are butt kickers, like they they Their offense line this
season is different than they've ever had, and that's what's
allowing Vanderbilt to continue to play against the big dogs

(01:35:41):
in a way they've never done before, and I give
that staff a lot of credit for building up this
team in that way, and so that gives them a
chance to play tough games back to back to back
and still have the ability to win those games.

Speaker 4 (01:35:58):
And so.

Speaker 2 (01:36:00):
I'm not getting from the Van Dy train. I don't
know what the right I don't I didn't wag during
this game. I don't have a player in this game.
I would just be afraid to get in front of
Vandy train. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:36:12):
Another good game in the afternoon on Fox, Iowa State
and rock O becked against b YU number eleven b YU,
which won the Holy War.

Speaker 2 (01:36:23):
I love Iowa State in this game laying time, so
do I. So b YU is just sort of like
winning is important, as we know that's the end game.
But yeah, they they just have won games, you know,
just like it's not been It's not been pretty, Okay, Yeah,
pretty is not pretty. It doesn't mean that, you know,

(01:36:45):
I mean, you win, and you know, you win the games.
That's your job. It's been It's kind of kind of gross.
Iowa State off of Bye. They're much better home this
season than on the road, and I think it's opportunity
off of by two straight losses in Colorado to sort
of you know what, Blacky become like I get right
game right, get right game for them against BYU. So

(01:37:07):
I do like I do like them in this spot. Yeah,
I love them. I love them.

Speaker 3 (01:37:14):
I'm a big I like rock A a lot. He's
a gamer of course with Anthony Beck, good friend and
show because uh that's that's good football. That'll be good football.
Uh all right, let's keep going. Let's talk about I mean,
you mentioned Alabama South Carolina and how that could be shaky.

Speaker 2 (01:37:36):
I see the same thing. I think it's it's sweat.

Speaker 3 (01:37:40):
I think all about the wins, but I think this
thing is a dangerous spot after and Alabama's playing terrific, right,
But it's a dangerous spot you have. Here's where you played.
You have played like you said. You beat Georgia, you
came back beat Vandy. Everybody was hot about Vandy that game.

(01:38:03):
Then you beat Miszoo at Miszoo, and then you come
back and you crush Tennessee Gate. There was a little
game got closed for a minute, and then all of
a sudden they blew it open.

Speaker 2 (01:38:17):
And now you got to go on the road and
go play a South Carolina team.

Speaker 3 (01:38:24):
It's like you know, not that that very good and
you got LSU next weekend, all right, I guess after
the bye.

Speaker 2 (01:38:31):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's a it's a tough spot.
South Carolina is not good though, So that's the the
one thing that I think is worth pointing out, like
it's just it's they're not good, and so can they
summon something today? I mean this feels like South Carolina.

(01:38:51):
I mean it's win or like the end of the
coaching staff. I mean, you know, it's one of those
games where like they have to they gotta win, or
this is maybe the end of the coaching staff. So
I think that it's a kitchen sink game where essentially
you throw everything at it. And I look again handicapping
a game based off of basically saying like, ah, you know,

(01:39:12):
I don't you know, you know, they might not try
as hard in this game. It's real. I don't want
to say it's like a it's a real thing. So
I do think it's worth again pointing that out that
like can Alabama for a fifth straight week, get up,
go on the road and try to win a game
against a team that they should beat. Their twelve point

(01:39:32):
favorites for a reason, and maybe it's eleven outs come
down a little bit, but their favorites for a reason
in this game.

Speaker 3 (01:39:37):
Yeah, yeah, all right, let's take a quick too, and
then I want to ask you about the future of
props and if you think it'll be affected by this
whole scandal that's happening in the NBA. But the other
issue is college because they all for college props.

Speaker 2 (01:40:02):
How do you protect the player when it comes to that.

Speaker 3 (01:40:06):
So we'll kind of move into a little bit, and
I do want to get into the whole theater aspect
of it, because you know, this whole mafia talk and
all this stuff families name and there's five families. I
think part of it is way overblow. But we'll discuss it.

(01:40:27):
Fellas hanging right here at Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back, Fella,
is it, Jeff hanging with you? Don't forget the brain.
Next hour we'll go through the whole card and have
some fun with that stuff. Of course, that really has
been the subject of the week and everybody's talking about it,

(01:40:53):
and it was theatrical in many ways the NBA, and
it's still when you when you go through it, Jef,
it's pretty wild. The whole David Joes stuff. Yeah with
you know, he's letting people.

Speaker 2 (01:41:11):
Know about Lebron not playing. It's insane, Okay, so let's
talk about that. For some reason, the people that gamble
for a living in Las Vegas, the ones who make
the money, who set the numbers as well, they find
out this information all the time. I don't know how

(01:41:32):
they do. It's that's essentially how I mean. I I
think there's an injury situation with Utah's quarterback today. I
think I have some information on it. I don't know
if it's accurate or not. But like we also have
like people we know, we get information, but very rarely

(01:41:54):
does it come directly from the friend of Lebron James
or or coach right to someone who can make money
off of that. You know, it's typically third hand. Like
I get about text messages about stuff, and I'm like,
I don't know who knows, And half the time it
doesn't even made. It's not true at all, right, But
it's always like taking or third hand, not directly from

(01:42:16):
the source in this in this manner. But that sharing
of information is nothing new in the gambling world, right.
A lot of it does come from learning about injuries
playing time. And I don't know how they get it.
Do they learn it directly from the source? I don't know,
but that's a lot of of the industry. And so again,
the problem with this is that it comes from someone

(01:42:39):
associated with the NBA, right, who explicitly told other people
that someone wasn't playing. Now, don't think Lebron is as
the name is attached to this. But he did nothing
wrong here, right, he didn't. Just they use Lebron in
this instance to make some money because he wasn't going
to play again, someone character to the NBA can't do this, right,
you can't do this now. This is not the same

(01:43:00):
as ringing Game's not what Chauncey Bilts is being accused
of doing. It's it's this inside and information, right, which
but isn't it? You know? It's interesting right? How you
know this is something the FBI feels very passionate about.
You get insire trading of other people less passionate about.
It's interesting, right? How that? How that is?

Speaker 3 (01:43:21):
Well here's the other thing too, Like you have politicians.
Well that's my point, correct, Yeah, well, yes, you know
I'm just going to buttress it by saying you got
politicians that all of a sudden, they they're in office
and the next thing you know, you know, their net
worth goes from nothing to eight million dollars, right, Like

(01:43:44):
you talking about real wealth, not you know, not a
couple of hundred Graham like or whatever it is, Tank Graham.
There's just so much you're going to make off of gambling,
and so much you can bet on a prop be.

Speaker 2 (01:43:59):
Correct. It's hard to get down on that, but if
you know someone's not playing, obviously you can and you
could spread your in. Look and the people that do
it for living, they're able to spread out, you know,
spread out, you know, spread out the wealth. Right. They
have many different outs man, different ways to get money
down all those things. But yeah, I mean, this is
part of wagering, is getting in that inside information. I'll

(01:44:20):
tell you this funny story though. Last year i uh
we talked about my podcast, but i uh Utah football.
Cam Rising right, who was their cornerback last year, was
in out of the lineup for the last couple of years.
We knew on Monday he wasn't going to play in
a week, and we bet on Oklahoma State. They were
playing Oklahoma State all week. Like, we hit the number

(01:44:42):
Eventually the news got out by like Wednesday, and the
number of plummeted, right, I got, we got a great number,
and Oklahoma State ended up losing. Anyways, Really yeah, oh
we got Yeah Alcoba said was oh nine comp Like dude,
we we had a great number, we knew in advance.

Speaker 3 (01:45:01):
And and.

Speaker 2 (01:45:03):
We lost. Anyways, it doesn't mean I remember during the
COVID year, I got information on a college basketball game
where four starters were out because of COVID, and so
I bet the other team and so lost that game. Anyways,
they mean you win every game.

Speaker 4 (01:45:20):
Like.

Speaker 2 (01:45:21):
So that's my point about some of this stuff is like, yeah,
it's not like it is a guarantee. Well, the stock
market thing with with congress people is different because they're
told in these meetings, right, and these hey you know,
especially during COVID, we saw this happen a lot, like hey,
this company is going to do this, and then they

(01:45:43):
invested that company, right, or they ditched their stock in
that company. That's like, you know, this is this is
not guaranteed to win, right, It's not guaranteed. So we
might get information today on something and it doesn't mean
it's gonna win. Obviously, if Lebron James not playing in
a game, the Lakers are more likely to lose that game.
That doesn't guarantee like that. Out of all things that

(01:46:03):
we saw in this story, this is like the what
I least care about. I mean this, this is commonplace.
The thing that I care about a lot is Chauncey
Billups potentially losing games and or or the game. So, yeah,
the video is incredible. He's it's he's very clearly throwing

(01:46:26):
that game. It looks dude, you know, it looks like
have you ever seen the movie Blue Chips? It looks
like Blue Tips. Yes, he's throwing the game. Yes, it's
exactly what it looks like. Yeah, throwing the game. The
game was coach, it's a what a what a movie?

Speaker 4 (01:46:43):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:46:43):
All that stuff is legal. You want a tractor, here
you go. Here's a tractor, here you go. So legal now, right,
Buddy would be like, Buddy, be living to d be
buying a whole team. I can't figure out, by the way,
so that is that supposed to be? U? C. L A.
I never figured Blue Chips, right cl A? Thank you? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:47:00):
So Ron Shelton, who's a great Ron Shelton wrote it
in fact, I'm working with him on a college football project.

Speaker 2 (01:47:07):
So so basically, Buddy, Sam Gilbert, that's like that, that's
the that's the thing out there. Yeah. So uh so, nonetheless,
you know now obviously that that's all, that's all, that's all,
that's all legal. The terroor is your thing or Jontay
Porter thing, I don't know. I guess then the terror

(01:47:27):
is your question is like did it did it affect
the end result of the game? Because I'm not, I'm
not personally as outraged about that as I am what
Chauncy Bill are ranking like what I think is the
worst Chuncy because you're I mean, you show the play.

(01:47:49):
But the question is like, if you're up twenty and
you turn the ball over three times and leave the game,
is you know, is that is that? Because basically what
he was doing is is either lee in the game early,
right or taking his props. However, in the video that
I saw that we all saw, that looked like he
was actually trying to lose the game. That's where I
take a problem with it. Right, if if you're Jontay

(01:48:10):
Porter and you come out of for seven minutes, shouldn't
be doing it. It's illegal you should be banned for life.
All those things are true, but my outrage meter isn't
as high as guys throwing actual results of games. Right,
And so if Rogier was doing that which looked like
he was in the video, and this is the this
is the number one problem with why the penalties for

(01:48:36):
these have to be very harsh. Okay, this number one
reason why because now every time, well every game Rogier
is played in, people will go back and watch again
to see if he was throwing the game. Remember when
when Calvin Ridley got suspended for gambling, and the NFL

(01:48:57):
was very clear that it was not on anything that
he played in. He was hurting here, right, and it
was not any insight information that he had to place
his wages. He just was hurt and was gambled like
the rest of us, right, okay, and and uh and
and but then what happened was people went back and

(01:49:18):
watched his highlights and tried to find plays where it
looks like he was trying to lose the game and
fix and throw the game right, when he very clearly
according to what they found. And again, they have his bets,
they have the information he wasn't even playing, so had
nothing to do with with with his game day activity.

(01:49:38):
But the problem is the integrity issue, right, is that
now people go back and say, well, did he fall
down to early? Here? Was he fixing the game? And
that's the number one problem here with all this, right,
is that when we watch sports today, we need and
want and should believe everyone playing is playing in the
spirit of competition right to win, not not to lose, obviously,

(01:50:01):
but to win, right, and that we have to know
that that's the ultimate goal. And when you start having
these stories come out, it starts undermining the integrity of
what we're watching. And that is why we the penalties
have to be harsh, which they are, and you have
to to lay the log down on this and on

(01:50:22):
with this. This is happening, well, we know nowt at
a tiny rate, right. Think about we have a couple
of NBA players, two baseball players, right, I believe that
like there've been baseball players to spend up for gambling,
but not on their own games. There's been gambling in general.
But we have two Indians two to meet, two Commanders
players that we think we're throwing first pitch balls, and

(01:50:46):
that's a whole different story. I have a lot of
questions about that story. But we have a couple of
NBA players, one coach, big issue. It's not a lot, okay,
but it's enough to question the integrity of the sport
and we just can't have that.

Speaker 3 (01:51:00):
So what do you make of Then people say, well,
the referee scandal and then donneghe last night, I said,
we've had a couples forever. We've had him forever before
sports wageram became legal. No, I know, but it's even
more pronounced that. It's everywhere and like one of the

(01:51:21):
who was it, I think the New York Mob guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
you know. So I he was like, I got two reps.
I had two reps for three reps on my payroll.

Speaker 2 (01:51:33):
So I went to I went to elementary school with
his kids in LA I like, I know, yeah, his
daughter and his daughter was in the same grade as me,
and his son was in the same grade as my
brother and I. It's so funny. So I I didn't
know who he was when we were kids, but I
think he was mostly around, but I think he went
away for a couple of years. I remember like he
was not around, than he wasn't And then I remember
he came and spoke to us at Oregon because you

(01:51:55):
know that when he got out, he was doing the
whole like you know, yeah, you know, and uh, he
saw me and I could tell he turned like white
in the face, like he was like shocked, like he
saw like very clear knew who I was. It was
very wow. Yeah, it was very funny. And uh and yeah,
I went to school with this kid, yeah, in Los Angeles,
Warner and Warner Elementary. Wow. That's wild, that's wild. Okay,

(01:52:18):
I mean we're there. I didn't know. I didn't know. Yeah,
but but yeah, yeah, so I find his story so
interesting about why he's he's still here. I mean to
talk that much as a mobster. We keep hearing you
can't do that. You can't do that obviously protected. But yeah, look,
basketball is the easiest sport, in my opinion, to fix.

(01:52:40):
We've had the most scandals in basketball for many reasons.
And you can fix the game in basketball and still
make it look like it's real basketball. That's what makes
it really tough, is that you're an official, right, you
can affect the total of the game and make it
look like it's a regular basketball game. I know the
idea and that's what's happened. By the way, the official

(01:53:03):
is more about the total than it is the points spread,
because you can't control like whether guys like make a shop.
You can control how many times you go to the
foul lining, right, and so it's just always going to
happen in basketball, whether or not we take away legal
sports wagering. The player go ahead, No, I was just
listening to the player prop question is fair because the

(01:53:26):
question is if I go on an app right now,
I might be early, too early in the morning to
have full player props up on NBA games, but you know,
should I be able to wager on the ninth guy
to go over under their points?

Speaker 3 (01:53:42):
It tight because my real worry and problem is not
welling with professional sports, but with college props.

Speaker 2 (01:53:52):
Let's talk that because there's not a lot of available.
So we're talking.

Speaker 3 (01:53:55):
About all right, fellas, hang it right here, Fox Sports Radio.
All right, fellas from the Fox Sports Radio studios, and
and Jeff hanging out with you, all right, So we're
just talking about these props, right, So I mean I
just pulled.

Speaker 2 (01:54:13):
Up an NBA game, all right, that's one of them. Yeah,
I just pulled up my my sixers right, So.

Speaker 3 (01:54:23):
You know you got all your any point total you
want threes, rebounds, assists, combos, steals, I mean you get
all that stuff right, So you know you could spread
around unders everywhere or if a guy, if you know
a guy's not playing.

Speaker 2 (01:54:44):
Yeah, and in college, brother, like that's the thing that's scary.

Speaker 3 (01:54:49):
You could bet on passing props, receiving props, rushing props.

Speaker 2 (01:54:55):
So you shan't as much as you think as someone
who tries to. Quite often the college football will just
look at football. There's not a lot up for that market,
and a lot of times it's not even up until
the game is close to beginning. So like right now,
if I go to like when we got almost Oklahoma, right,

(01:55:20):
we talked about the game earlier. They have only one
way markets. First of all, so a two way market
means you bet the over in the under right. One
way market is just betting the over right. So they
have pastor to past tds for Chamblison and Matier. Right
receiving props, they have a couple of a four wide receivers,

(01:55:42):
five wide receivers, right, you bet only overs right, rushing
same thing, four running backs only overs, only overs. But
if I go to like Carolina, and so Carolina Virginia
is up as well. Again the same sort of deal, right, like,
can only bet like overs, so you can't my situation,
where so the question becomes like you do you allow yourself?

(01:56:06):
Do we make props just one of my markets? So
we make them only only only overs essentially now to
be fair too, not every book offers that. Not every
book offers like there are other books that don't. I'm
on another one right now that does not offer college props.
They just don't offer college props. Also, some states don't

(01:56:26):
offer college props. Some states like New York and go
to New York once a week. You can't wager on
the college teams in New York. In Oregon, you can't
wager on the college teams that played Oregon. So there
are regulations of states have put in place to help
with that. The only problem is you could do it
out of state most right, like most of them, I
don't even I don't know many offshours to have college props.

(01:56:50):
There are some, but like I I've never tried to
ben a college prop on offshores. I don't think they're
available very off Again, they are probably available, like write
a kickoff sometimes, so they try to like wait till
the very end. But I don't think props for you know,
national championship game, yes, week nine. I don't know. I'll

(01:57:12):
look right now. To be honest with you, I think
I think there might be, like the big the big
games might have college props, but you're not going to
find them. I think widespread like you do in the NFL, ORBA.
And the one thing with college basketball. We talk a
lot about college basketball. I don't bet college basketball props.
I would even I've never even been to that tab before.
I don't think they have them. So it's the college

(01:57:34):
things again, it's about the if you can find a
small school, typically a smaller school, and you bet again
those games and you bet you know the yeah, I'm
all show right now. So they have receiving yards, two
way markets on receiving yards. Okay, so passing yards, touchdowns,
receiving yards, rushing yards, but not not as many players

(01:57:55):
like the number one wide receiver for both teams, right,
and the number one running back, which those guys are
unlikely to to throw games and to throw their props anyways.
So again, I mean it's a very nuanced conversation, and
I'm curious to see it feels like nothing's gonna happen,
like states are not gonna just you know, decide to
ban props. But you know there's a lot of money involved, right.

(01:58:17):
That's also a part of it as well, is like
are you gonna are you gonna lose that gambling income
on your you know, your your tax revenue. You know
you just stay like Jersey, like New York, like they
make a lot of money on the tax revenue of
of gambling.

Speaker 3 (01:58:30):
Yeah. No, it's a good point, and it's I mean,
the issue comes in what these leagues because of the
integrity factor. It just all comes down to that. You mean,
you made a statement about the NFL, and it's kind
of interesting how the NFL can be because it was

(01:58:54):
always that was those odds rigged, like you know, people
always say that stuff. And it's like, do you remember
who was it that came out with a script and
people people went bananas. They were like, oh yeah about
this script. It was like a running back who said
it was great he came out with this script thing

(01:59:15):
and it made I.

Speaker 2 (01:59:16):
Think it was Adrian Foss start a podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:59:18):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, And it was like a ridiculous
I thought, you know, he said, what do you say
there was there was a script?

Speaker 2 (01:59:26):
Yes? But is it also isn't? Isn't also on a
podcast that discusses discusses conspiracies, like that's like the podcast was, Michael,
there's no scripts. Okay, I didn't get a script. I
wish I had a script. I wish I knew. Look,
here's what the NFL. Okay, if the NFL was rigged,
the Dallas Cowboys were winning Super Bowls, Okay, they'd had

(01:59:47):
the most popular team winning instead. Right now, we the
number one team in the AFC is in Indianapolis. Right,
it's not scripted, right, fell is big? Last, how we're
coming up next? Going to.

Speaker 1 (02:00:00):
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Speaker 2 (02:00:48):
Jeff Schwartz, Anthony Gargano as that we've.

Speaker 3 (02:00:50):
Been all over the place in the NBA scandal, obviously
heavy talking point, a lot of NFL stuff. We're gonna
go through the NFL matchups, Uh, what they're gonna look
like tomorrow? What through the college it's a it's a
kind of a down week in college and of course
the World Series, the Sports Equinox is here. Jet it's

(02:01:10):
the it's the best time of the year because you
got like today World Series, College Football, you got NBA, NHL.

Speaker 2 (02:01:20):
Yeah, it's all here. It's all Planet wants the Equinox.
Can I tell you what Dlema I have for today? Yeah. So,
my son's at a new school this year, and you know,
we're trying to make friends of this new school and
we know some people there. But tonight there's a parent event, right,
they're doing like this October Fest, a parent only event
at the school tonight, and they're having a trivia thing,

(02:01:42):
and my wife sign us up to go, and we're
on a trivia team, and it just so happens to
be uh right in the middle of the organ game. Okay,
So a couple of things. I uh, I it's not
I don't like people, but I like, I have enough friends.

(02:02:06):
I don't have a lot of friends, but I have
enough friends. I have enough friending in my life. And
so I'm I'm not unfriendly, but like I'm just trying
not to be friends. I just I don't just I
just don't want to be friends with more people, right,
So I'm not I'm not I'm not standoffish, but I
just like I just I just ok. Yeah, And mostly
because people are like, tell me about football, I'm like,

(02:02:27):
I talk about and part of the two, Like I've
just spent four hours talking with you. But I do
a lot of talking for my job. Sometimes I just
don't want to talk, Okay. So always, Like a couple
of weeks ago, my wife is like, hey, I need
like I need Jeff Schwartz, Like I need like I need,
I need like good Jeff Schwartz. Like I I knew
what she meant by that, I need like I need

(02:02:50):
good Jeff shortz. This is this event. And I was like,
I gotcha, I'll be good Jeff Schwartz. But I've been
hinting that for a couple of weeks. Like I've been
hinting for a couple of weeks. Now I'm like, you know,
like organ playing at seven o'clock. The event's like it
will be there probably by six because my son as
a fuck football game at four, so I don't know
what time watchually gets to the event. And and I'm like,

(02:03:11):
you know, like I'm gonna watch a game on my phone,
Like I'm just telling you, like it's it's what's gonna
happen at seven o'clock. But the good thing about this
is I think we've gotten the point. Now we're short.
Short just accepts like I'm gonna do things like that
so I can still be like the schmoozing Jeff Schwartz.
But also, hey, my team is on top of guy Yea,

(02:03:32):
So at least at least she's accepted because it's gonna
happen it because who I am, It's okay. The problem.
The issue is that the school has no cell reception
and very bad Wi Fi. And I'm gonna be uh,
I'm gonna be not happy if I can't watch my
game at seven o'clock, even though we're gonna be Wisconsin.

(02:03:53):
I just want to watch a play. I tell her.
I go like, hon, I like you, my wife's very social.
I'm like, you love to be social, you love to
do things with people. You. I just want to watch football,
like that's my thing. But I don't. I don't. I
don't go out like I don't. I don't party, I
don't go on like dude vacations, like I just stay

(02:04:15):
at home, hang out with the kids, and I want
to watch football. That's all I want to do. Drink
football season. And I'm like, you keep scheduling things drink
football season on Saturdays and Sundays. So I mean, is
it is what it is? So I'll be on my
best behavior tonight while watching football with people. I'm trying
to make friends with the good Jeff Schwartz tonight, that's
what she said. I think they get death Swarts tonight.

(02:04:36):
It's gonna be cold tonight too, It's gonna be it's
like chilly now all of a sudden. So yeah, we
also don't have a babysitter as of right now, so
that's probably a problem. So we'll see that, will say
that situation goes, so we maybe we don't go. I
don't know. I don't know. I don't know. If to
see then you get, I would would be I'd be heartbroken.
I'd be I'd be I'd be just so heartbroken. But uh, yeah,

(02:04:59):
so we'll see what happens. She's she's uh, she's still sleeping.
We will appreciate this.

Speaker 3 (02:05:04):
My man Nikki on the text board says parent only
social aggressively disinterested.

Speaker 2 (02:05:13):
Yeah so it's but we're on a trivia team too,
so like we're like with this group of She's like,
she's like, you can't big your phone, you're in trivia.
I go, then I won't do trivia. What do you
want me to tell you? I'm gonna watch organ play.
They played twelve games a year. I'm gonna watch them play, right,
And we're in these sweet like grateful dead uniforms today
and if you have you've seen them, like they're tied

(02:05:34):
eye that the numbers looks great. Like, I'm gonna watch
organ play. So I'm sorry that your friends might think
I'm crazy, but yeah, it's just like what's gonna happen.
I hate to be the person who is the football
watcher at the at the kids event, but a parent event.
But it's gonna be me. Yeah, no, dude, I've been there.

(02:05:56):
We've all been there. Yeah, we went to UH and we.

Speaker 3 (02:05:59):
Were and that always happens like and you know, like
I today, I have a baseball game at ten am,
so when we get up the air, I gotta run.
In fact, my my Masuma is being picked up by
one of the coaches and then I'm going to meet
them down there because we play in Delaware.

Speaker 2 (02:06:22):
So we have a baseball game at ten, and.

Speaker 3 (02:06:25):
Then we have a football game at three thirty and
it's like the opposite side at like Central Jersey. So
I got to go from Delaware right then back homes
out my house. He's gotta get changed for football, and
then up to Central Jersey for two point thirty for

(02:06:46):
so we can get ready for.

Speaker 2 (02:06:48):
I My daughter wants to go watch her friend play
softball nine o'clock, and then my son has basketball evaluations
at like twelve for this team he's on. Then we
have flag football and then we have this event. I
mean it's just like life of a of a you
know parent with kids activity.

Speaker 3 (02:07:05):
Dude, right, I mean it's I tell my friends like
and they just go what like the friends who have
no kids or like grown kids, they don't understand it.

Speaker 2 (02:07:19):
Yeah, I'm not. And I don't even do the club
sports yet. Look, I don't like but we had a
game last night. My son played till like nine fifteen.

Speaker 3 (02:07:25):
I mean just oh yeah, practice every night. I mean
we got football practice every night. So you know we're
not we're not home until every night. What time, quarter
eight thirty, quarter to nine. Yeah, and that's during the week,
school week. Yeah, you'll like this as well. I'm I'm
throwing my wife under the bus, But I love my wife.

(02:07:46):
She's not she's not a sports parents. She didn't play
sports as a kid. She played, she swam, she super
and when a kid swimmed, you super into it. But
otherwise she's not a sports parent. Okay, and I do
most of the sports stuff. She works full time.

Speaker 2 (02:07:56):
I'm taking the kids to they're practical or not, but
you know there I travel for work on ones Thursday,
and so sometimes she is to handle, like picking the
kids up from sports from practice. And the text messes
I get are just the best I should I should
just screen shown and send them to you. So the
first is that practice ends at seven. But you know

(02:08:17):
this doesn't really end it seven, right, and so seven
oh two, Emmy's not done with softball yet. I go, okay,
she she might not be done with it's seven seven
o eight. They're still not done yet. Okay. I don't
know what you want me to do. I'm in New
York City. I can't do anything about it, you know,
I know, babe, the practice sometimes runs ten minutes longer

(02:08:39):
because the kids are having fun and they're working on stuff.
And every time, every time, and then last night I
missed her playoff game unfortune on Thursday, and the text
messages I got during the game, buddy, were just like,
just your daughter missed a ball first base. Was it catchable? Yes,
you should have caught it. And then I ask, I

(02:08:59):
mean afterwards, she knows, Dad, it was a bad throat.
I couldn't catch it. Uh, And then like stuff like
and then Emmy got Emmy got hit with the ball,
and and she's like that girl should be pitching anymore.
She had two girls in a row. I go, oh, okay,
I I let them have it. I said something. I go,
what did you say? What do you mean? I said something?

(02:09:24):
You said something? Please? What is it? What does that mean?
You said something, and like the game ran like they
have they have time limits for softball, seventy five minutes.
It's it's super short. I don't know why. It's having
the boys. The boys are already bit it's unfairly girls
thirty five minutes. But like it went to. The game
was super long because you know, the home team has
a chance. You know, when the timer hits, the home

(02:09:46):
team has to bat if they're behind, right, that's the way,
obviously right to make it fair. So games took extra long,
like the game is taking too long. Ago, it takes
as long as it takes.

Speaker 1 (02:09:58):
Tell you.

Speaker 2 (02:09:59):
It's just like, dude, it's just a constant stream of
like imagine going to an event that you don't really
she'd understand sports, right, but it's like it's dude, it's
she's so passionate about it, but yet then doesn't really
like the end. It's dude, it's so I should tend
them to you when she sends them to me. It's
just a stream of like, it's so funny, dude, it's

(02:10:19):
so fun I mean I tagged that at home. That
tends something. Okay, can you explain to play besides that,
I don't know what that?

Speaker 1 (02:10:26):
Sure?

Speaker 2 (02:10:26):
I tagged out, what does that mean? How else I
feel about that? It's the best. It's the best, dude,
I love it so much. That's classic.

Speaker 3 (02:10:33):
Oh yeah, dated a home run and then you realize that, well, no,
they just kind of scored a run.

Speaker 2 (02:10:38):
That's what I have that issue too. Well, she's like, Emmy,
Emmy hit a EDMI hit a home I go, she
hit a home run. Well, no, she hit a single
and then then the girl threw it away three times.
That is one thing about about you sports, by the way,
that I have to teach my kids. And it's a
fine line. Where like my son the other day had
three hits in a game. All right, it was a

(02:10:59):
good game. He had a double and he had two singles.
We got the second on error on one of his singles.
And he tells my dad on FaceTime. He's like, He's like,
He's like, Papa, I got one and a half doubles,
he said, he said, he said, I I know, I
know that it was an error, but I'm counting in
my head as a double. And I'm like, good, buddy,

(02:11:20):
good for you man, good like whatever whatever you want.
But that part of it, like Emmy, that actually was
a single in a three base error, but if you
want to believe it's a home run, I'm like, so,
you know, she's note, I'm not really going to tell
that to her face. I don't really say that to her,
but like it is that point of like at some
point you start teaching them, like what it actually is

(02:11:41):
on the scoreboard, on the score sheet, on the scorebook.

Speaker 3 (02:11:44):
But you know what's funny because my kids are older,
like it happens organically. Of course it does, yes, right,
Like so like my like Masimo is the baseball player,
like he you know, once he hit his first home run,
like a legit over the fence home run, and I
mean it well, he understood the perspective of it, right,

(02:12:05):
like wow, it's not the same as the ball travel
and hit the line drive and through the gap and
center and left and running all you know inside the park,
it was, oh my god, I actually hit a home
run over the water. And then sure, you know it's
it's cool, like you'll love that. Stuff's fun. Man, You're
gonna enjoy that. Oh I can't wait. And I've said

(02:12:28):
this many times before. My favorite thing, Like people were
kind of complaining ause we played late last night we
played seven thirty was my son's game, and it was
cold and whatever. I'm like, this is I would rather
do nothing else in life would I rather do?

Speaker 2 (02:12:38):
You're right and live waye Ordan, North, Texas, Charlotte. I'd
rather watch my kids play sports. So I love it, dude,
I I I you know. Yeah, you mentioned like you
drive around everywhere. Yeah, I mean sure, you know, you've
drived some places that we not want to go. But uh,
there's nothing better than watching them play sports. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:12:57):
Wa yeah, it's just more the time, the busy aspect,
like you're just like you're you're just going, you're just rolling.

Speaker 2 (02:13:04):
It's the best man, and I won't trade for the world.
And it goes by fast. So we ended baseball last joy,
We ended baseball last night. He's got basketball tryouts today,
Like it's just it never stops. Yeah yeah, yeah, that's great.
All right.

Speaker 3 (02:13:17):
The one off shoot that we haven't covered that I
want to ask about with the NBA, is do you
how big of an issue does that league have? Like
we've talked about general in sports, but the NBA has
all it feels like it has all kinds of issues

(02:13:38):
allful And you said something I completely agree with the
basketball was a lot of fun this week. Like you know,
we got webby Luca and okay, okaysee uh my my
squad had an edgecomb go off.

Speaker 2 (02:13:55):
I mean, how about his story. I love this story.
When he mentioned he's great kids men, I love the kid. Yeah,
you know he lived off a generator for seven years.
I think, right, he said, yeah, so you guys need
some of that juice, I think on your team. Oh
my god.

Speaker 3 (02:14:10):
And they got two like I'm a huge Tyrese Maxey guy,
Like he's a great kid, and the two of them
have really good energy, like really good energy. So it's
a lot of fun. But you got referees. You know,
people talk about referees, and we just saw the Donneghie thing,
and there's all the you know, load management stuff, and

(02:14:33):
then what Chwantsey Billups does is completely open up a
whole can of worms from the coaching aspect, and every
every bad, weird coaching decision will now be you know,
under the microscope.

Speaker 2 (02:14:50):
Unfortunately, that's that's where we're at. This is this is
why we talk about why this is important, right and
why it's just you have to have uh, really stiff
punishments like, I think it's worth exploring whether Chauncey Billups

(02:15:11):
should be a Hall of Famer anymore. Yeah, like I
think those are. I think you have to have harsh
punishes when I watch games today, I need to know
that they are on the up and up, and that
the competitors are playing not for the love of the game.
They're getting paid of course, and I l it up,
but you know they're in it's true competition, right, it's

(02:15:31):
too spreads. And if I think they're rigged, I've never
thought they're rigged from the top level obviously, But if
I think that they're rigged, then obviously what I'm watching
is not not a real product. But just it's not
the product I think I think it should be. And
and to be fair, like it's sort of as fraud, right,
like you're you're you're defrauding all of us as fans.

(02:15:54):
That's not a real fraud, of course, but you're defrauding
us as fans. And it's look I said this before,
and it's like the NFL suspends players more harshly for
gambling related quote unquote crimes than someone who puts their

(02:16:16):
hands on women. Think about that, the punishment is more
for gambling than someone who puts their hand on a woman.
And that's because, unfortunately, unfortunately, one of them is more
about the integrity of the league, which is the gambling, right,

(02:16:36):
then the other one, right like the league. You might
obviously in like real life, putting your hands on a
woman is far worse than the gambling. But the integrity
of the shield, right, This is what Roger Goodell's goal is,
to protect the shield. If people think games are rigged,

(02:16:57):
they're not going to watch. If people we have evidence
that people will watch and root for players that unfortunately
have crimes, right Like, we see that. And so that's
when the NFL they give ok a year suspension for gambling,
six games for domestic violence. That right there, I think
is the clearest picture you have for why leagues are

(02:17:21):
so adamant about getting this out. They don't want this either,
like they welcome all the regulation, all the eyeballs, because
this for them is the most valuable thing. You cannot
have people question the integrity of your sport.

Speaker 3 (02:17:37):
Yeah, And I think the integrity piece of it was
vital in this whole partnership. You know, the NBA is
the one sport that's completely under the microscope. The load
management thing is the biggest problem.

Speaker 2 (02:17:57):
Right, like achieved more of a problem than than the
all what happened this week. So so I'm I watch
a little bit of NBA in the postseason. I don't watch.
I we rarely met. I don't watch a ton now,
even though I've watched actually probably more this year than
I have in the past. But I'm probably the consumer
that the NBA wants as far as, like you know,

(02:18:19):
I have money, Like I like watching sports. I can
go to a game if I want to, And I
try to go one Lakers game every year, and they
come to Charlotte. One year I went and Ad and
Lebron both didn't play. I've never been back. Why would
I go back? Right?

Speaker 4 (02:18:37):
What?

Speaker 2 (02:18:39):
Well, now they play November tenth, Actually they play, come
to Charlotte a couple weeks. Maybe it's Monday night. Maybe
I'll go. Maybe I'll go. By that time of year,
Lebron might be back. I don't. I don't think so.
But like Luca seems to play every night, so maybe
Luca will be I'll go watch Luca play. But like
I spent real money, like you know, we had seats,
like really good seats me and my son, and neither

(02:18:59):
of the stars play. I think one out of knee
injuries back to back. Lebron didn't play. Maybe Ad was
really hurt. I don't remember. But it's like you have
people that can't afford to go to games. They get
a ticket for a game thinking that they're going to
see a superstar play. They get there and superstars not
playing because they're resting. I understand the point. The goals

(02:19:20):
win a championship and if you have to rest to
get there, be my guest, but like it really does
hurt the fan product and the fan engagement when you
don't play because you're just resting. Like the NBA has
got to deal with to your point, deal with that
first in my opinion, and sort of the gambling stuff second.

Speaker 3 (02:19:36):
Yeah, yeah, no, because you want to make sure that
you're able to have a regular season that's watchable.

Speaker 2 (02:19:51):
It's been far more watchable than the first two days
than I think ever, Like, these games have been really good.
The NBA does have that problem where the postseason looks
nothing like the regular season. Yeah, I don't know, man,
the first couple of days have been really good basketball.
I mean, okay, see games the Lakers Wemby is like
it just incredible show, and the rookies are fun, right right. Yeah,

(02:20:14):
you know we talked about Edgecomb he was flat had
three at half time, I think ended up with ten
twenty twas night, like you're talking about that last yeah,
first light was ten and ten. Yeah, so like yeah,
and then you you just have you have these dudes
and Utah one game one, which is shocking. Like even
my horner, I think, not my Hornets, but my Hornets

(02:20:34):
are gonna be fun this year. Man, they got they
got like they got a fun group of guys. So
it does feel like a pretty fun NBA seasons ahead of.

Speaker 3 (02:20:40):
Two squad, they're actually playing my squad. They're sure they
are Philadelphia.

Speaker 2 (02:20:46):
Charlotte's gonna be a fun lead pass team. They'renna score
that a ton of point. I don't know how good
they're gonna be, but're gonna be fun. And then uh,
you know, then my Lakers with with Lebrono come back
at some point, so we'll see how do you like
the Lakers and not the Dodgers. So okay, they're yelling
at us. My dad's from the Bay Area. I grew
up a Giants and forty nine Ers fan. He grew

(02:21:07):
up essentially a Warriors fan, but then like the Celtics
because he hates the Lakers. And as a kid, we
had season tickets to the Forum to Lakers games, and
so I just became a Lakers fan. I'm pretty sure
that like, he just didn't care much about NBA like fandom,
so he let me be a Lakers fan. I got you,
I got you. That makes sense. All right, let's say

(02:21:27):
quick TiO, we'll come back to Brain, will join us.

Speaker 3 (02:21:29):
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Speaker 3 (02:21:50):
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Speaker 2 (02:22:05):
All right, let's uh, the brain having trouble locating the
brain so he's busy, busy, he's busy getting ready for
the weekend.

Speaker 3 (02:22:15):
All right, now, Brain, you know, I don't know what's
going on, but bre'll let us know when we get them.
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Speaker 2 (02:22:31):
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let's kind of go through it and then the brain
comes in. Uh, we'll get his thoughts. So we begin

(02:22:59):
on a big time.

Speaker 2 (02:23:03):
Week. Could you believe that we are headed for Week eight?
National Football League Week?

Speaker 3 (02:23:11):
Hate?

Speaker 2 (02:23:11):
Man, we're in Week eight. I hate it, you know,
I like. I do like the weather changing a little bit,
though I don't sweat as much when I leave the house. Yeah,
it's all appreciate. I do appreciate the fall.

Speaker 3 (02:23:22):
Yeah, yeah, we got we got a doseal fall into
the forties. It's actually beautiful in the sixties. I don't
like a little warmer, but you know it's it's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (02:23:33):
It was chill chilli at the kids game last night.
But I keep I don't know about you, but I
keep a whole like cold weather set up in the
back of I have a truck in the back of
my truck, in the truck bed like I have like
a blanket, a jacket, gloves, like I have a whole
like it's gonna be cold tonight. Here are my options.
I just keep in my truck year round. Yeah it's smart. Yeah,

(02:23:54):
it's smart.

Speaker 3 (02:23:55):
All right, let's get it started tomorrow one o'clock Bills
Bengals and Jets Bungles.

Speaker 2 (02:24:06):
Okay, yeah, So that game last week Thursday night was
very predictable, by the way, then the Steelers if you
know anything about Mike Tomlin's history in those spots. So
who's hung over for the Jets? We don't know, right,
I mean, Aaron Glenn's like being very secret about Oh
maybe it's Maybe it's it's Taylor. Maybe it's Fields. I

(02:24:27):
think it's I think it does. I think I think
Taylor gives him a chance. Fields gives them no chance.
We've seen Fields. He gives them no chance. Taylor gives
him some of a chance to actually throw the ball,
which is important playing quarterback. Feels to throw the ball
pulls the ball way too long, holds the ball way
too long. So I I think that if we see Taylor,

(02:24:50):
the Jets are liable to win this game. The Bengals
should be favorites, seven point favorites over nobody. Okay, I sure,
so I do like the Jets if they're Again, I
don't know who's playing this games. I can't give you
a great read on what I would pick.

Speaker 3 (02:25:12):
Yeah, interesting, Yeah, I don't. I mean, you're right, I'd
rather have Missus Fields play quarterback. All right, but Tyrod
Taylor is horrible. I mean he's better.

Speaker 2 (02:25:26):
Yeah, that's how bad it is. He's better than he's
better than the actual quarterback they have now. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:25:31):
Yeah, Ravens seven and a half against the Bears. Ravens
getting healthy, Lamar is back, and they're getting some players
back on defense.

Speaker 2 (02:25:46):
I like Baltimore. Yeah, think about think about this for
a second, right, So the Bears are four and two
the one four games right now. The Ravens are one
and five, and they're favored by a touchdown because Lamar
is gonna play Rokland Smith. I believe it's back like
the think about you guys back. So I tend to

(02:26:06):
think this is a spot to take the Ravens. I
agree with you, But they and you're desperate, Like they
know they need to start winning, and their schedule lightens up,
so they get a chance down they can win today
to really be a player in the playoff discussion.

Speaker 3 (02:26:19):
Right, all right, Miami is at Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (02:26:29):
So a couple of things in this game. What is that?
Michael Pennex popped up with injury report yesterday. I don't
know how serious it is. I don't think it should
change as of right now. You feel about this game? Uh,
the Dolphins are dead. I mean the more they talk
the word, I mean talking about how you can't see
I know, like we get it, buddy, Like figure it out.

(02:26:50):
Though they're paying all this money to figure it out.
Figure it out. It just it's it's the Falcons are
much better at home than on the road, and I
think the Falcons will handle business here. I think it

(02:27:12):
might not be close. The Dolphins refuse to fire Mike
mc daniel, I get it. This might get him to
fire their coach. I think I think it's a rough
one for the for the Dolphins. Panics, I guess is questionable. Yeah,
I popped up on the report yesterday. It wasn't on
the report so yesterday. Yeah, but either way, I mean,

(02:27:32):
you're in good hands. So I'm with you. I forgot
Cousins the backup.

Speaker 3 (02:27:37):
Yeah, I mean you know, I mean, can you imagine
Minnesota how much they would love to have Kirk Cousins
right now?

Speaker 2 (02:27:44):
They could, By the way, the Falcons could probably just
run the ball with me and you at quarterback and
win this game. I don't know how import that that
actually would be in the end. Yeah, he's he's so good.
But I'll tell you I loved it. I mean, I
love Drake London and a good year. Yeah, They're just
a little bit limited offensively with pennx. He just he

(02:28:07):
he is not great at some throws. He's really good
at some other throws. I think that does hold him
back a little bit. Yeah, and outside the numbers that
was in college watching out to the numbers, just not
great in the middle of field. He's got a Yeah,
and Michael Coup Kyle Pitts wagering on the tight end

(02:28:29):
facing the Dolphins to go over is a good wager.
The Dolphins do not guard tight ends. Yeah, lot of
leakage going on right there.

Speaker 3 (02:28:37):
Uh, Bills and Panthers Buffalo seven and a half over
your Carolina Panthers.

Speaker 2 (02:28:44):
So I think the Panthers cover this game a couple
of reasons. One I don't think they win. One is
that Buffalos run defense is poort. Now Milano might play.
You might be back of ma Injoy, which makes a
huge diffet for that. But Bernard's not there, so that
they don't have a full linebacking course. That so a
little worrisome, I think. And uh, the Panthers, look, look,

(02:29:05):
they're they're playing better football lately, right They're They're they're
playing colimation football. Bryce Suton might not play, but I
don't know are they that much worse with with Dalton
there We've seen, by the way, the first game of
backup plays, by the way, has been good. The second
and third game is not. This would be the first game, right,
So seven and a half is a lot last thing
on this game too. Uh look ahead spot for Buffalo
with the Chiefs coming in next week. I know that

(02:29:26):
it's not a thing as much in the NFL. I
think it matters in this specific spot. So you know,
just get home with a win and move it along
and get ready play Kansas City. But does the BUYE
does the buy change that?

Speaker 1 (02:29:42):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:29:43):
I mean, I think actually on a buy you probably
think about that a little bit more, don't you like
the bill staff probably spent good about of the bye
looking at look at the Chiefs.

Speaker 3 (02:29:51):
Right, But you're but you're you're in the playing and
you're coming off a couple of losses, so.

Speaker 2 (02:29:59):
You know you need it. Not like you can look ahead,
sorry quickly. There are there are a lot of big
numbers this weekend. There are a lot of games about
a touchdown someone can't win all like. You're gonna have
some upsets. That's just what the NFL is on a
weekend like this. So you have to start sort of
picking these games you think, you know not last week,
I think one two hundred dogs won out right, that

(02:30:19):
was it. That was it. So you're gonna have it's
gonna be weird working the NFL, and you sort of
have to pick some of the games you think are
gonna be weird. And I think the Panthers game is
going to be weird. I can see uh Niners and
Texans Texans. Oh man, dude, So this one's really interesting.

(02:30:40):
So this is what common sense about this game would
tell you, right. The Texans this year have played four
real teams. All four of those games, They've not scored
more than nineteen points. Their offense has looked bad in
every one of those games has not looked good. They
played two teams they can score on, the Titans and
the and the Ravens Andy score twice. We scored a lot,

(02:31:00):
So you need to score a lot of those games.
The Niners we talked about earlier, like playing great ball
right now, right, so common I think for like common sense,
like wisdom would tell you, like, hey man, back the
Niners here right, they're playing good football. I this feels
like a spot to be scared of backing the team
that should win this game. But I do think it's

(02:31:23):
fair to say this about this one, like why would
it be any different for the Texans in this game
versus the other games they play? Like that's my that's
my point.

Speaker 3 (02:31:30):
Well, I want I do think the Niners defense isn't
what it is because of the injuries. Well, so the
thing and if you just protect now, I know there's
no Nico Collins, right, so there's no Nico, but I
you know, I got.

Speaker 2 (02:31:46):
A feeling that the US did lose the ball. Well
they do, obviously they're they're going to be in this game.
So here's the thing about this game too, is that
they're using defense number one inefficiency and they can get
after mac Jones. It could be trouble. So I want
to pick the Niners in this one. But it does
feel like the classic spot where in the NFL where
you're just like, you're like, oh, Texas won that game.
They have to they have to win too, So I

(02:32:09):
lean Niners here, but I wouldn't be surprised if I
was wrong on this game.

Speaker 3 (02:32:15):
Yeah, I'll take I'll take the Texans in this one.
All right, Let's take a quick t o won't come
back and run through the rest of the card, including
Eagles and Giants, Cowboys and Broncos, and the Aaron Rogers
bawl Oh, that'd be fun. Jeff and hanging Fox Sports Radio.

(02:32:45):
All right, welcome back Fellas broadcasting for the Fox Sports Studios.
Gotta thank Mighty Mark and bri Brianna. Great job guys.
As always, we appreciate it our fine production team. Jeff Schwartz,
Anthony Gargan. Let's go through our games, by the way

(02:33:08):
we put it at for the brain. I don't know
what happened. Uh, all right, buddy, Eagles and Giants. The
Eagles are at seven and a half point favorite.

Speaker 2 (02:33:21):
Yeah, I like the Giants cover this game. Obviously you
worry about mentally last week. Right, that's a pretty tough
blow for the Giants. But I think Jackson Dart's good
and he's now had enough starts to realize that, right, Like, look,
will you have rookie mistakes? Of course, do a better

(02:33:42):
O reception like he did, does some some things that
aren't great, But I think you agree on that. Like
he's he seems like legitimately, like he belongs.

Speaker 3 (02:33:49):
To you know, I love him. I was always the
anti Russell Wilson. I'm like, I don't know what you're
waiting for. Just start Dart.

Speaker 2 (02:33:57):
Yeah, I mean we said that of beginning to see
and so I'm so I think that's important to note here.
I think Dart is is legitimately good, and I think that,
you know, the Giants defensive line is is one of
the best in the NFL, and they control these games.
And with the way that Hurts played last week, I

(02:34:18):
don't expect that again. No. A. J. Brown talk about
the innability run the football for the Eagles this year.
I think it's too many points. I think Philly wins.
I mean seven half is too many points, right?

Speaker 3 (02:34:29):
New England and Cleveland, New England seven and a half
over the Browns.

Speaker 2 (02:34:34):
Yeah, no offense to these teams. I will not be
watching this game. I mean I probably New England, but
who knows. I mean whatever, Yeah, I hate I hate
to I know game that way, but that's sort of
the way I feel about it.

Speaker 3 (02:34:49):
All right, Tampa New Orleans, Tampa's three and a half?
Does Saints got written all over for Brianna.

Speaker 2 (02:34:56):
I would take the Saints to cover this game a
super beat up, as we know, the one thing that
we can we as a football media, Okay, I like
a lot of you guys, can we stop trying to
make Spencer Rattler the thing like I get on social
media like this week is like Spencer Rattler, like he's

(02:35:19):
a can be a start in the NFL. Over who
out who? Okay, who are you taking Spencer Ratler over?
Right now? Is a is a franchise quarter? Are you
thinking over Jackson Darts in New York? Oh? Over to?
I'm just kidding, Okay, I actually I think you're right
there two so one that's it? Like, I just think that,

(02:35:42):
like and they draft his replacement. By the way, I
wasn't even played yet for some reason, but I do
think that in this spot, New Orleans covering would be
the player. Nothing by pass on this game.

Speaker 3 (02:35:53):
It's good. That's the sharp spot. Ye alright, Titans and Cults, buddy.

Speaker 2 (02:36:01):
The number just just I just bet the Colts team
to all over whatever it is. Tennessee feels dead, the
Colts rolling everyone o. The Colts against the NFL Man,
Colt's gonna have a down week, but I I don't know,
it feels like it's It would be difficult to think
that that's the case.

Speaker 3 (02:36:22):
So great game in Denver the Cowboys and the Broncos.
This would be interesting because the Broncos had the miracle
cutback last week. The Cowboys are our role, would play
good football offensively. The Broncos have a great secondary. What
games in this game. I I'm out on the Broncos.

Speaker 2 (02:36:51):
I just think that they don't call pleasant look like
they trust Bonnicks and how can I how can I trust?

Speaker 3 (02:37:06):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (02:37:06):
By the way, do we have a breaking news sounder?
Do we have like a little breaking news sounder Kirk
Cousins expected to start for the Falcons this weekend. Wow ah,
we hinted at it. Look at that. Yeah, I don't.
I don't. I guys, big game bone bruise for Panics.

(02:37:27):
That that actually is? That's that that sucks. Bone bruises
are very painful.

Speaker 3 (02:37:31):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:37:31):
An adult will start for the Panthers because the news
as we come out right now, oh Josh Shimmons is
I haven't even looked at all this news that Josh
Shimmans might be coming back for the Chief soon. Uh so,
Uh Okay, the the Broncos call pust they're afraid of
bon Nicks, and I just I hate that, and so
I like, I think the Cowboys will cover this game.

Speaker 3 (02:37:52):
Uh all right, I would agree that Rogers Bowl, Packers
and Steelers.

Speaker 2 (02:38:01):
Favorite fast favorite WAGERA favorite wager of the week, Pittsburgh Steelers.
Can I can I tell you why? Well, I'm gonna
tell you why. I'm not gonna I'm not. I'm gonna
tell you what. So I've bet on the bank on
the Bengals to beat the beat the covering to Seers
on those that football worst spot, worst spot for Mike
Tomant ever, the best spot in the history of wagering
on a coach is Mike Tomans as a hole underdog,

(02:38:23):
You're ready. Thomas Willis as a home underdog thirty two
games as a head coach, twenty two seven and three
against the spread in those games, Wow, I don't believe
in the Packers and talking about earlier. They've had four
weeks of very mediocre football. Give me the Steelers in
this game. I think they win and cover well. Is

(02:38:44):
he the too obvious man? The Rogers narrative I'm not
betting on the game because of Rogers? Is some payback?
I think that I don't trust the Packers. They've been
very lackluster for for a month now. Right lost the
Browns tie against the Packers last week's game, like I
need come back. We're never aad in that game till
the last two minutes of the game. I like Pittsburgh

(02:39:05):
and oft an embarrassing loss to cover it home. Oh.
I like the Packers. I do.

Speaker 3 (02:39:13):
I like the Packers more than you do. I think
they're a sleeping giant. Green Bay's a better team. Pittsburgh's
defense is not good. The Packers' offense hasn't been great.
Either I don't know, I don't know, tell you man,
that's what I think.

Speaker 2 (02:39:32):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:39:33):
And then Monday night is the big Chiefs in Washington,
huge number.

Speaker 2 (02:39:39):
Yeah that Washington has no Daniels, right, Mari. I would
just take like the Chiefs team total over or something.
I don't know. We can't lay the twelve and a
half or two. No, no, no no, But I like
the way the Chiefs offense is rolling. Look, good man,
I told you guys just to wait.

Speaker 3 (02:39:56):
Yeah, I mean listen, when you get Rice back to
put a bit worthy, all was sudden. There's there's Ballance
Kelsey got space on the field. I love using Shard
Smith too. Uh. That's gonna do it for us, Jeff,
have a great week, everybody. We love you, EF, thanks
for hanging See you next Saturday. Fellas are out.

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