Carmen Vitali & Steve Hartman talk World Series Game 7 and more!

Carmen Vitali & Steve Hartman talk about the Dodgers wild win over the Blue Jays in last night's Game 6, look ahead to tonight's Game 7, preview games across the NFL, and more!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. Welcome into another
Fox Football Saturday. My name is Carmen Vitally and I
have the one and only Steve Hartman with me today
against Eve. How are you, Carmen.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
It is great to be back with you, especially what's
going on right now.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
You know, we got to Game seven.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Of the World Series, We've got college football, big NFL.
Can we believe we're halfway through this NFL season already?
It's absolutely nuts.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
It is absolutely nuts. It always happens this year and
still I'm caught off guard. I don't know how it happens,
but you're right, we're going in a week nine.

Speaker 4 (00:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
I mean that's the problem with football for those of
us that look, there's a lot of people listening out there, Carmen,
you know this who everything else is just a distraction
until we get back to the football season. That that's
how dominant football is as a force in this country.
And so you get there and you get excited. There's
a big build up. You know, we have to suffer

(00:56):
through the preseason, like, come on, let's get this thing started,
and then it starts and then boom, you were at
week nine and it's like, what's happening here? Now we're
all a suddenly who's going to make the playoffs and
everything else? So yeah, that's the only problem with the
football season is just too short.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
I know. I don't think any of these players want
to hear us say that, though, you are going through
the equivalent of a car accident every single week. They're like,
now you know we're talking about an eighteenth game now,
and you're like, uh, well, then we got to add
another buy But that would that would make the season longer,
that would be fun.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Well, it also needs more money. And you're absolutely right.
If you go to an eighteen game schedule, it's going
to be over twenty weeks. You eliminate the preseason obviously,
that's all gone. You would also have to increase the roster. See,
the players will get the leverage here. You've been hearing
the players have been, well, we're not exactly on board
with eighteen games.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
So you know what they want.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
They want the second by they went to expand rosters,
they obviously want a bigger share of the pie.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
So but it's going to happen eventually.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
Yeah, I firmly believe it's a when, not an if.
They just have to figure that all out. I have
to imagine it comes open. It'll come up with if
not sooner with the next collective bargaining agreement. But we'll see.
We still have the remnants of baseball happening, so we're
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Speaker 2 (02:34):
Here's the thing about this oral series for a second here,
because I pull rank every once in a while here
at Carmen. You know the idea of traveling back and
forth from Los Angeles to Toronto. I don't know about you,
cause you've been in this business a little bit now
so and you've done a lot of traveling. How psyched

(02:56):
up are you for business traveling? And people don't understand this,
Like it's got to be cool.

Speaker 5 (03:00):
Man.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
You're at the games and you're there and everybody else
and you're.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Like, yeah, okay, that was like the hook early on
when I worked in the NFL was the idea, well,
you'd be going to all the games, and then after
like the fortieth road trip, it's like, okay, it's not
quite what it was maybe the first couple where you
get a little excited about it. How are you would
travel and having to be at these major events.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
I've been spoiled in the sense that I've gotten to
mostly just cover the NFL. And the NFL is in
for the most part, big markets, and so you're going
to cities where there always is there's always something to do,
there's always something to see, and you're in this business
long enough and you get to know a lot of
people kind of around the league, and so you're always,
you know, getting to see the people that you haven't

(03:47):
caught up with in a while. So like that part
of it. I love not to mention when I was
with the team, I got to fly on the team
charter and I got to like have everything taken care
of for me, and I was smacked with reality the
first time. I like when I when I parted ways
with the Tampay Buccaneers and I ended up covering the
league as a whole, and now I'm responsible for my
own travel. I it was such a reality check. It

(04:10):
really was Steve where I was just like, oh God,
Like I'm the one that's like, you know, late for
my flight. I'm sprinting through an airport. I'm trying to
get there because you know, otherwise I'm not going to
get there and get to where i need to go
in time. And then you're also trying to find hotels
and sometimes those aren't right by the stadium, especially like.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Do you have to make your own travel arrangements and
then you sort of send them the itinerary and then
they pay the bill.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
Yeah, yes, yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
And as someone who covered the NFC North for so long,
there's no good place to stay in Green Bay, so
you have to stay outside of Green Bay. Most of
the time, you just stay like thirty minutes outside Green Bay.
I usually would stay in Appleton, And that's not a
fun drive to do before or after a game, especially
if it's a night game and it's winter and it's
snowing and the roads are icy and there's deer and

(04:57):
like it's just it's harrowing. Some time.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Well, you know, the Raiders back in the eighties when
I was working there, we were one of the first
teams that actually offered spots on our charter. We had
a DC ten to go to cities. Now, the major
papers like the La Times, the old La Hare, they
refused to ride, you know, like no, no, no, we're not
going to do that.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
I mean with them, we're sort of in with you.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
We not only did that with some of the smaller papers,
not only gave them a free ride to the games,
free hotel rooms and everything else. They even got Christmas
gifts from us.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
Yeah, you hadn't know how to schmooze the media a
little bit. Yeah, and they were Al Davis was very
big on that kind of stuff. Well anyway, so yeah,
going back and forth from LA to Toronto.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Toronto's a fun city though I've.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Never been to Toronto. I've never been. Is it good,
I've never been to Toronto.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Yeah, it's I think it's It's very close to Chicago
in a lot of ways, Like it looks it feels
like Chicago in so many ways, but a little bit
more kind of upscale, metropolitan. You know, they have the
whole at least kind of foreign thing going the French
Canadian thing going. I mean, that's it's not Quebeca or anything,
but it's I don't know, it just feels very much
a Politan. So it's a good city. It's a big city. Again,
You're not like going to the middle of nowhere in

(06:11):
Texas or to Green Bay, Wisconsin or whatever. I mean,
it's a very very nice city.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Ken, Can I ask you a question Major League Baseball.
You know, there's always these conspiracy theories, right, and you
watch what happened with the ball getting stuck under the
wall yesterday. I mean, yeah, I understand it happens to
regularly feel where the ball gets caught in the ivy
and stuff like that, but I've never seen it like
with a cushion something like that. And so there's all
these conspiracy theories about you know, who Major League Baseball

(06:39):
wants to win, And I'm thinking, okay, so do you
want the Canadian team to win or do you want
the team that those that hate the Dodgers say have
ruined baseball and are leading us down the path where
we're even talking about a potential cancelation of the twenty
twenty seven mlbcson as there's a dispute over a salary cap.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
And you know, players not going for and everything else.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
So if indeed it's a fix to win this series today,
do you think Major League Baseball is favoring a Toronto
win or a Dodger win.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Yeah, I mean, I think the proof, the proof that
that the fix isn't in is the fact that, yes,
there is a Canadian team and perhaps the team that
people that Major League Baseball doesn't want other teams modeling
themselves after. But I mean, at the end of the day,
if you're gonna call it America's pastime when you want
the Dodgers to win, you think that that that's very

(07:36):
contradictory if a Canadian team ends up winning. I think
it would be really really cool though, for the Blue
Jays to end up winning. I'm happy this has gone
to a Game seven, and like the drama you know
is still an all time high. It's too It's it's
two cities that love their teams, and and that's that.
That is what you want in a World Series, all right?

Speaker 2 (07:54):
What you want if your Major League Baseball is to
take the star power of showy Otani to the stratosphere, right, I.

Speaker 4 (08:02):
Mean, this is it. This is game seven of the
World Series.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
The Dodgers really had no choice to that because he's
the DH. The way the Otani rule works is that
he would have had to start the game as a
pitcher because he starts the game as a DH.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
If he had started the game as a DH and
come in.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Relief, then he would have to be replaced as the DH.
So that's why the Dodgers was never a question of
whether Otani was going to start a Game seven. He
has to start a Game seven where they potentially lose
him as a DH. But I mean, this is it, right,
I mean, this is this is you know, baseball is
starving for that Marquis star. Otani is there. Granted after

(08:41):
eight years of Major League Baseball. He doesn't speak much English,
which you know you gotta work on that, Okay. I
just believe you really.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Is an international sport more than so many, given how
many different languages are spoken, how many different countries guys
come from, even if they are a majority the teams
are a majority in the United States.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
But you need a star.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
I mean, we haven't had a true baseball star in
my opinion, since Derek Jeter. I mean, they try to
make Bryce Harbor that, but he wasn't you know, Derek
Jeter a little bit too, Aaron Judge a little bit,
but he hasn't won a series yet. See, Jeter had
it all going, man, he had the game, he had
winning championships, he had the look, he had everything. Jeter
was that that last true accepted.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
Everyone knows who he is star in Major League Baseball.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Yeah, And I mean I really think though that I
don't think it's hyperbolic to say that Joheo Tani is
potentially the best baseball player we've ever seen, and just
with the way that he's completely changed the game, I
don't think he's going to be the last you know, pitcher,
DH like, you know, just all around player that we're
going to see, but he's certainly the first of his kind.

(09:52):
And I think that that does catapult him to the stratosphere.
And the fact that there is a Game seven and
the Dodters do win this, I think that's cementsa to
your point Steve, that you know, he is baseball's biggest
star and he deserves it because he's doing things that
we've never seen before.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
But he has to have a big Game seven. I mean,
it's one thing to do what he did in the
last game of the National League Championship Series, and obviously
the Game three four for four reach based nine times.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
These are two memorable games.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Aside from those two games, it's been a pretty forgettable
postseason for show Hey Otani. So when your biggest star
is featured in a Game seven of the World Series
where everybody's watching, not to put any added pressure on him.
He's got a dot to deliver. He needs to deliver
in a spectacular way. Because, as you say, you can

(10:47):
make the argument about best all around player because he
is a DH and a pitcher. He's not a guy
in the field, but he's definitely one of one. There's
no Babe Ruth comparison. People don't even know what they're
talking about when they're talking about Babe Ruth, and there
is no comparison. There was like one year where Babe
Bru's sort of morph from a pitcher into a nowfielder,
and that was that no one has ever done this,

(11:09):
and I did. I don't think it would ever be
done again, certainly not at this level where a guy
can do it year after year after year at the
high level. But he has to be the guy to
night in this Game seven for major League Baseball to
really benefit from a player to take them to the
next level.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
Yeah, and this, I mean, the stage is being set
up perfectly for that though, right, I mean you have
the Game seven. Now you have like I was actually
just at a hockey game between It was the Outawa
Senators and the Chicago Blackhawks, and every time the Blackhawks scored,
it wasn't just a Gohawks chant, it was a USA
chant because it was Canada. Now you've added like a
whole country kind of rivalry to all of this. And

(11:54):
the stage could not be set any better for the
Dodgers for Shoheo Tani to really elevate his not only
his brand, but the brand of Major League Baseball. You know,
you talk about how major League Baseball has the interest
has been waning. They've done things to speed up the game,
make it more you know, friendly towards fans to watch
and to participate in and do all of that kind

(12:14):
of stuff. But this this, like you can't really understate
or overstate how much this moment means for the entire league.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
By the way, the last time a Canadian team obviously
won the Stanley Cup was the Canadians way back in
nineteen ninety three, which also happened to be the last
time a Canadian team won the World Series, the Toronto
Blue Jays in nineteen ninety three.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
I'm just saying, I'm just saying, well.

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(13:01):
and that listen. This is I cannot wait for this game.
So and I really just it's going to I feel
like this is going as much as last year it
was Yankees, Dodgers, marquee franchises, you know, the founding franchises
in so many ways of today's of the modern Major

(13:21):
League Baseball landscape. Now, I mean again, with all of
the drama and all of the way that this could
mean so much to Major League Baseball, you could not
ask for a better series at the end of the day.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
By the way, one other quick note here. You know
I'm a stat person here, Farman, you know that. So
the Dodgers have through six games a team batting average
in this series of one ninety one. The lowest team
batting average ever by a team that won the World
Series was the nineteen eighteen Red Sox who had a
pitcher by the name of Babe Ruth. They hit one

(13:57):
eighty six during that series, and the Cubs in that series.
So the Dodgers have a chance to make history to
win a World Series with the lowest batting average by
a team in that series ever, which is not what
we expected.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
I was just gonna say from how productive they were
offensively throughout the entire season, it's it's funny to think
that like in the postseason, and it just it just
shows you that it's it's a completely different game once
you get into the postseason. Don't matter what, it doesn't
matter what sport you're playing, and how the margin for
aer goes down that much further. And it's just it's
it's completely counterintuitive to what you would have thought given

(14:34):
the regular season the Dodgers had.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yeah, no one cares about team batting amage. They only
care about the win if it's a one nothing game. Today,
Dodger fans are gonna be very excited if they're on
the other on the winning side.

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All right, well, we're gonna get to We covered Major
League Baseball, we covered the World Series, this Game seven,
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Speaker 1 (15:38):
Well this is vibe love this. I'm always surprised and
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Ladies and gents.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Hmmm, you know Iowa Sam is. He's a man that
has taste in many different things. Musically. Of course, I'm
a standard Top forty guy from the nineteen seventies and
so he knows that. But Carmen, your death of music
obviously is way beyond me.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
I've ranged, I span the gamut, I go everywhere. I
love some top forty seventies stuff. I'm a huge eighties
rock girl, early nineties especially as well. But then I
also grew up in I think the golden age of
hip hop between like the nineties and early two thousands.
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We got Bob Benson as well, Martin Weiss in the

(16:35):
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All right, I promised football some football talk, Steve. We're
going to get to some football talk. It's not quite
going to be NFL yet, because I want to get
to something that happened in college football this week, and

(17:18):
is that, you know, talk a little broader about the
state of college football as it is. LS who fired
their head coach Brian Kelly. They are currently on a
bye week, but they did it before the bye. They
got embarrassed last week, and I this head coaching search
has taken on just an incredible life of its own,

(17:40):
because not only did Brian Kelly get fired, so then
you have their offensive coordinator gets fired to okay, makes sense, Well,
now a few days ago they're athletic director, not director
of football. I mean, like so many different college football
teams now have like the GM position in the way
that the NFL does not there like GM. The athletic
director of LSU has now been fired as well, and

(18:04):
the Governor of Louisiana, Jeff Landry, is is I don't
even think Meddling is doing it justice. Like he is
front and center of this whole thing. He said that
before he even lets Scott go their ad, he talked
about how like he was never going to make the
new hire for the next football coach, head football coach,

(18:25):
he would sooner have President Donald Trump do it rather
than their last ad. So now LSU is just I mean,
the vibes are so bad around a program that has
won a national title in the last five years. And
I guess it's twenty nineteen, so it's twenty twenty five.
I guess it's six years. But I mean, this was

(18:45):
a team that was ranked in the top fifteen going
into the season. They have not looked up to expectations
under Brian Kelly. And now where do you do? What
do you do? Where do you go? Does the Governor
of Louisiana get to determine the next football coach at
Louisiana State Universe? The agricultural and mechanical college.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Well, if you're the governor of Louisiana, a state that
has a lot of problems, so many the idea that
you're spending three seconds on this, to me says we
need to move on and get a new governor because
obviously your priorities are way out of whack.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
In fact, this is what's what I've seen.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
The thing about being around as long as I have
is the fact you've seen an evolution in sports that
I could never have envisioned. Just to give me an example,
when John Wooded retired after winning ten national basketball championships
in a twelve year span in eighteen seventy five, he
was making a little more than thirty thousand.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
Dollars a year.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
That's what he was making in the mid seventies. I
don't remember him screaming like, hey, you know, I'm winning
the championship for every year.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
Maybe never happened.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
And so we're at the point now where collegiate sports is.
If you don't believe it's full blown professional now, I
don't know what you need to know. I mean, because
we've got six buyouts, the total one hundred and sixty
nine million dollars.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
We've never I mean.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
The idea of a college football coach being fired during
a season was rare. The fact that every week we
get another one with a big buyout to leave. And
by the way, this fifty million plus that Brian Kelly's
gonna get some private donor is gonna you know, write
a check, you know.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Probably probably Todd Graves, probably.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
And so the if you.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
Were the governor of Louisiana instead of you know, calling out, well,
you know this athletic director, well, the court then the
guy got fired. But this athletic director is not going
to choose the next coach. I'm like, dude, you got
other things to worry about in the state of Louisiana,
a lot of things to worry about other than the
state of the LSU football program. But this is how

(20:52):
out of whack, Carmen, everything has become, uh really on
the sports scene.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
And now I'm left, Okay, where do you go from here?
If you're LSU, who is making this call now? And
who's the one? Like, so are we leaving it up
to the university president to hire a new athletic director
and then you're gonna let the athletic director, Like I
think that's the best course of action?

Speaker 4 (21:14):
How are you going to get a frontline coach?

Speaker 2 (21:16):
I saw Urban Meyer talking about this today because he
was asked about some of the different jobs, like you know,
Florida versus LSU versus Penn State, and he goes, first
of all, if you're approaching, you know you Brian Kelly
was a big time guy at Notre Dame, right, yeah,
and his three predecessors at Oregon, Les Miles and Nick
Saban all won national championships. See the thing about it

(21:38):
is LSU is sort of like Auburn, you know, where
they have like these great years that seemingly come out
of nowhere, and then they go back to sort of
like irrelevant. You know, They're not Alabama, they're not Ohio State.
They're not like in the mix every single year. Okay,
They're one of those schools that every once in a while.
I mean the twenty nineteen team, you know, might have
been the best college team ever. I mean, but you

(22:01):
know that they're not Alabama. Okay, but they have this
feeling they should be Alabama. But again, how are you
going to entice anyone to come into that program? You
don't have an athletic director right now? You have the
governor calling you out.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
That is a mess.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
And by the way, other teams will use that against
LSU on the recruiting market.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
I would say for recruiting purposes, for so like when
so much depends on outward perception when you're talking about, yes,
like getting kids to come to your program, if like
out of high school, getting kids to come to your
program in the transfer portal, like all of these things. Now,
I can't imagine the amount of LSU football players if
they don't get this higher right that are going to

(22:43):
hit the portal in order and get out of there
as soon as humanly possible. And if you can't get
all of those kids from Louisiana that coming up in
that high school system, which every coach has been able
to do at LSU, I mean, it could be catastrophic
for this program and where they could be plunge into
irrelevance for a very long time. And I like, hey, listen,

(23:06):
I think what you want about the guy or myre
that's a great point of like who are you going
to get to come in and save this mess? And
I do think it needs to start with the athletic director.
But I mean, this was a team again ranked in
the top fifteen before the season. One of three teams
actually ranked in the top fifteen prior to the season
that now needs a new head coach. But of those
three teams, Penn State LSU in Florida. I think LSU

(23:27):
looks the outlook looks worse the worst for them. But
I want to get to what's happening today in college football,
and for that we're gonna go to Martin weis an
update booth.

Speaker 4 (23:39):
You know, Steve's the one thing I'd say.

Speaker 8 (23:41):
And Carmen can also thumbs this up because I know
she's marrying into the Yelshi family. Louisiana politics is about
as crooked as a letter.

Speaker 4 (23:51):
Okay, crazy, He's got.

Speaker 8 (23:53):
A better Jeff l Andrew's got a better chance getting reelected.
By making it seem like he influenced the who if
the coachings, who wins a national championship next three years,
He's got a better chance.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
Look at anything else in the state these like every
other politician.

Speaker 4 (24:10):
No politician makes a move.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Like that unless there is some personal benefit to it.
Sores are saying, hey, this is something you know they
kids st.

Speaker 8 (24:22):
No one had to advise him to tell him that
you say, this is the state of Louisiana.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
Is the guy that tried to bring in another tiger
because the Louisiana State Vet Department would not let them
bring in actual Mike the Tiger into the stadium because
he doesn't do that anymore. It's too traumatic on the tigers.
And so Jeff Landry got another tiger and brought it
into the stadium just because he thought that's what people wanted.
And everybody was like, what are you doing?

Speaker 2 (24:48):
How do I get one of those politician jobs? What
a racket? I don't care what level, city level, county level,
state level, federal level.

Speaker 4 (24:58):
What it's a mocker. Go move to the SEC.

Speaker 9 (25:01):
Stevens as a Hall of Famer. Now you can run
for office somewhere and you can just campaign on that.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
I could I go for you.

Speaker 9 (25:09):
Thank you these two votes here for you.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
I wha shame on you.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
What do these people actually do? I still don't understand
what they actually do?

Speaker 8 (25:20):
Well, most of them are like the second or third
highest paid person in the state, because that's the head
football coach who is the highest.

Speaker 4 (25:25):
Let's get that. Football scores UH second.

Speaker 8 (25:27):
Ranked Indiana with they ten to three lead over Maryland
with nine forty three left in the first half, eleven
thirty left in the first half of Florida with a
ten to seven lead over Georgia. Georgia with the ball,
though Notre Dame has a six to nothing lead over
Boston College with eleven minutes left in the first half,
Texas Tech with the ball but trailing Kansas State seventh
to nothing eleven minutes left there, and second quarter Minnesota

(25:51):
with a ten to nothing lead over Michigan State. Michigan
State zero and five in the Big Ten. Earlier today
we saw, we saw wins for or Ohio State big
over Penn State, Texas squeaked past Vanderbilt thirty four to
thirty one, Vanderbilt with twenty one fourth quarter points. Miami
not able to do just that against SMUSMU, getting to

(26:11):
win in overtime twenty six to twenty. Houston loses to
West Virginia wester finigantting its first Big twelve win forty
five to thirty five, and Duke beat Clemson forty six
to forty five. Clemson was a top five team to
start the year, They now have five losses.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Back to you, guys, Thank you Martin. I'm so excited
to bring on this next guest with now, especially now
that Indiana is up by a score. You've heard her
on ESPN Radio, You've seen her on First Take on
ESPN's Vibe Check. She is a proud Hoosier alum. ESPN

(26:50):
Chicago Bears reporter Courtney Cronin joins US now high Court.

Speaker 10 (26:54):
Hi, guys, how are you doing?

Speaker 3 (26:56):
Greg Court?

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (26:58):
How are you doing? After sprinting through the airport to
make your fleot to Cincinnati to see the Bears take
on the Bengals tomorrow? Are you caught up? Have you
caught your breath?

Speaker 6 (27:10):
I have, I've caught my breath.

Speaker 10 (27:11):
I've caught up on all my college football. I've got
Georgia Florida on one monitor in Indiana and Maryland on another.
Wasn't thrilled about the opening drive pick that Mendoza through,
But looks like they're finally, you know, waking up a
little bit out there in Maryland.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Yeah, well, I want to start there. I want to
start with your Hoosiers because I've talked about this in
the last couple of weeks, where like most of Indiana's
wins have just been absolute curb stoppings and to the
point where you're like, did they really need to go
out and score that many points on these poor teams?
But I'm like, I argue, I'm like, is anybody actually
like going into the season, even given what they did

(27:48):
last year? Is anybody taking them seriously when it comes
to the playoff in the national title? And I'd argue
that you have to go out there and convince everybody
week after week that this is who you are. You're
playing big boy football. How do you feel about your hoosiers?

Speaker 10 (28:04):
I think that that's something that Kurt Signette took very
personally coming off of last season, where everybody was saying
that they didn't deserve to be in the CFP because
they didn't play anybody in the regular season, and then
the teams that were good that they played, like Ohio
State Notre Dame in the playoffs, they lost to. So
they've left nothing in doubt. I mean the UCLA game
last week, when you put up fifty plus points and

(28:27):
that thing is over by the end of the first quarter.
Like I knew they weren't going to be number one
because Ohio State was off on their by last week.
But I was very happy to see my team at
number two and staying at number two because like they're
that good, and I think Fernando Mendoza as the Heisman
front runner right now from a place like Indiana is

(28:49):
still such as a hard thing to stomach, I think
for a lot of people. But I think what we're
seeing here is not only a team that's really good
on the field, but a team that is defying the
norm in college football that a traditional basketball powerhouse can
actually get involved in the mix for the twelve team.
CFP can go get really talented players out of the

(29:10):
transfer portal the way they've done it quarterback the last
two years with Curtis Rourke and now with Fernando Mendoza.
And like offensively, I mean they lose their offensive coordinator
from a year ago because he went to the UCLA
and then got fired three games in. They are better
offensively with all the changes that they had players going
to the draft last year, quarterback, change, all of it.

(29:30):
And so the stability there is what, as an alum,
I think you love because it's not just a one
hit wonder with the Indiana Hoosiers. It's a team right
now that's undefeated looking to go eight to o to
day and I'm really looking to go nine to zero
if they can pull off this Maryland when I know
it's early in the second in the second quarter now,
but it's impressive and I'm very excited about what the

(29:52):
next couple of weeks can bring leading into the first
round games in December.

Speaker 4 (29:56):
Cortney, this is Steve.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
I'm a UCLA alum, so you can imagine my feeling,
first of all, to dump an offensive coordinator on us
that sucked and was deservedly fired after three games. But
you know what, Signetti, I love what he's doing because
it reminds me a lot of what Bill Snyder did
way back in the day at Kansas State, where they
were the doormat forever and getting their brains beaten in

(30:20):
by huge scores.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
And that's where Indiana football was for years.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
And years, where the Ohio States, the Michigan's, you know,
just rolling up points on Indiana. So when you have
a team that's good enough to reverse that, I remember
he was the kind of guy Bill Snyder Kansas citate.
He was really rolling up sixty seventy points and everyone's like,
what are you doing?

Speaker 10 (30:40):
Man?

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Yeah, it's payback for all the years decades and we've
been beat down upon him. Now we have that opportunity
to do it. It's a big thumbs up for me.
I'm so thrilled to see a program that no one
has ever taken seriously it's a basketball school. Indiana to
do what they're doing right now with a middle aged
coach who was a lower level coach for years finally

(31:02):
getting his opportunity in the big time and making the
most of it, I think it's phenomenal.

Speaker 10 (31:06):
Yeah, And there's the reason that they extended him again
within the same like, you know, twelve month span that
they did a year ago when the then when James
Franklin was fired and that Penn State opening was probably
pretty enticing for a lot of coaches. But for Kurt
Signetti to get the ninety three million dollar bag, it's

(31:26):
deserved at this point because what he's done is not
just build you a good football team and a strong
football culture in Bloomington, like he's changing the priorities for
that athletic department, for that, you know, basically how Indiana
does business with sports, Like this is not just a
basketball school anymore. And to break one hundred you know,

(31:48):
one hundred years of tradition there and obviously you know
in men's basketball they haven't won a national championship since
nineteen eighty seven. Like the relevancy factor, like for somebody
to come in and just completely flip the script like
we thought with Tom Allen it was going to happen.
And obviously that was a flash in the pan the
COVID year. But this is like, this is changing the

(32:09):
landscape to where I kind of wish we still had
Big ten West and East because the Indiana was always
in the east with Ohio State and Penn State and Michigan.
Michigan State would always get their brains beat in. And
I go back to that Illinois game Week two of
the college football season, Week three, whenever.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
It was.

Speaker 10 (32:29):
In the amount of points that they put up on
Brett b Lama, Like Brett was on the other side
of that back in twenty ten when he ran it
up on Indiana Wisconsin eighty three twenty so to see
how Indiana was able to return that a little bit.
I think kurtzig Natty doesn't care what anybody has to
say about him about his program anymore, because he took
it so personally from a year ago that now it's

(32:50):
a rallying cry for a program that's trying to show
that they're not just a one year thing, that this
is going to be who they are going forward.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
All Right, I can't let you go without talking a
little bit a little bit of Bears if I could
say that correctly. You're in Cincinnati, Bears are taking on
the Bengals. Bengals have, you know, so many different struggles
between Joe Burrow's injury, but you know Joe Flacco now
dealing with an ac I see joint injury. We'll see
how he goes. But their defense, you know, the past

(33:21):
defense has been terrible. They haven't been able to get
it together. They're still very, very bad. But the Bears
have their own injury issues right now. DeAndre Swift is
now out for the Bears tomorrow, and with it maybe
a run game that had been doing really well under
Ben Johnson so far this season. What happens if the
Bears don't go out there in Cincinnati and witness what a.

Speaker 10 (33:43):
Missed opportunity that would be. Like, this is a defense
that's given up four hundred plus yards a game to
the first half of the season. You can throw on them.
You can also run on them, and I think it's
a good opportunity for their seventh round pick Kyle M Nunday,
who's been solid. He hasn't had a huge helping of
carries so far. Now you're the lead back. Now you

(34:04):
get a chance to show this team that drafted you,
that took a chance, that didn't go out and do anything,
you know, in free agency to get a running back,
that they're on the right path. But I think that
this has got to be Roma Dunde reaching the end zone.
DJ Moore finally getting in the end zone. It's been
a couple of weeks. He has one touchdown on the season.
Like Caleb Williams, in those red zone issues, there's a

(34:28):
lot that it boils down to whether it's penalties that
happen inside their opponents twenty him taking untimely sacs inaccuracy issues.
Like a good chance to get that on track is
against a team that ranks thirtieth in red zone defense.
Though I think like it's inexcusable if they lose tomorrow.
That's how I view it, given I understand that's the NFL.
Those guys get paid to but this is an opportunity

(34:50):
against a defense not even like looking like Toefort going
toe to toe with Joe Flacco. It's a defense. It's
not very good and they have struggled all throughout the year.
They will not have Trey Hendricks. They don't have a
pass rush to speak of outside of him. You should
be able to throw on this team, and if you can't,
the questions get louder about this offense.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
Can I just think, in one quick question here about
expectations for Ben Johnson this year, give me the low
bar for Bears fans, like, what's the bare minimum they
expect this season that they will say, all right, that
was good enough.

Speaker 10 (35:23):
Well, I mean, they're a four win team right now.
They're four and three going into the halfway point. They've
already had their buy There's been good moments. There have
been some moments where it's like, all right, it's not
clicking just yet. I think the bar, the lowest of
low bars, would be seven wins, because that's still a
two game improvement from last year. You probably aren't a
playoff team just yet. Given how good Detroit is, They're

(35:46):
not going anywhere, and the Packers are in the hunt.
Like I don't know if the NFC Norris gets three
teams in. It feels a little unrealistic at this point,
but I think seven eight wins should be the low
bar for this team considering all that they did in
the offen season. The head coach that was the bell
of the ball. They got him, they paid him a
lot of money to be here, and they're expecting that
the product like looks like something that's going to be

(36:09):
sustainable going from this season into the next, regardless of
what like win loss record, playoffs are not, say at
the end of the year.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
Yeah, and I think that that would be enough to
given the overhaul that happened this season, and that's more
realistic to expect in the first year under a head
coach with all that changeover. Courtney, thank you so much
for being with us, for taking ten minutes out of
your day. You're very busy schedule. We really really appreciate it.
Have so much fun at the game tomorrow.

Speaker 10 (36:37):
All right, Thanks guys, Take care.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
All right, coming up after this, we have the dues
and the don'ts of the week. You are listening to
Fox Football Saturday. I guess we had to know that
seventies top forty was coming, right because Steve's on the show.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
Sure, no, no, it's Karma.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
Vitally Steve Hartman, Fox Football Saturday. This is great. Who
is this? Ah? Okay, we love it? Oh see, there
you go.

Speaker 4 (37:08):
This song came out close enough.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
Yeah yeah, yeah good. The vibes, vibes, good vibes are there?
Good vibes. Uh, we're gonna We're gonna kind of ride
these good vibes into our weekly segment, the Dues and
the don'ts of the week that I was gonna say,

(37:35):
we go, we've got adult right there. It's okay, I was.
Sam is not usually our producer.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
Apologies. We're looking for it.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
He's looking for it. It's fine.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
We don't do we need the bump, we don't. We
just go We could just go with it. We could
just go with the dues and the don'ts, and we
can start with the don't forget my music and my bumps.

Speaker 7 (37:59):
That a spotlight on the don't The subject brings me
no joy.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
That's insane.

Speaker 6 (38:05):
It's time for the deuce and the dot in sports Man.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
I love live radio. It's a great time. All right.
I'm gonna start us off Steve, who wouldn't start with
another don't do it live. You can't do that to me.
All right, all right, all right, don't kill Gus Johnson.
Jeremiah Smith. We have a new candidate for Catch of

(38:32):
the Year. If anybody was watching Penn State Ohio State,
Jeremiah Smith took what looked to be an over overthrow
from Ohio State quarterback Julian Saying and wind Milt caught
it one handed for a touchdown first Penn State at home.
It was one of those just eye popping, mind boggling,
like there was a kid in the stands that was

(38:52):
just in disbelieve and he was all of us. But
Gus Johnson absolutely lost his ever loving mind rightfully, so
on it. You know, it's all on Twitter. Don't kill
Gus Johnson.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
I have a do okay, and the do is do
believe what your eyes tell you. Every single postseason baseball
October Okay.

Speaker 4 (39:17):
No sport is.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
Better suited for drama in the playoffs than the game
of baseball because it hangs on a pitch. I mean,
I sat through that entire eighteen inning game, Carmen, and
you say.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
Well, you're a Dodger guy. I'm like, no, I'm.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
I There's something about baseball where one pitch can decide it,
and to me, playoffs anything is great.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
I mean, we could always talk about hockey.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
Obviously you go over time, it's you're not gonna beat that, right,
But by and large, baseball creates more drama in the
postseason than any other sport.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
It does, and especially if you are the home team,
it really can just end on a pitch like that.
It's just it's incredible. Hockey's great. Speaking of hockey, very quickly,
I have another do do lean in because Nick Follino
of the Chicago Blackhawks dressed as head coach of the
Philadelphia Eagles, Nick Sirianni this Halloween. They look very similar.
They both have Nick as their first name, and then

(40:22):
Sirianni leaned in and dressed up as Nick Follino with
the Blackhawks jersey and everything on. It was just very
wholesome and for more wholesome football talk, please join us
next hour. We're continuing Fox Football Saturday. Talk to you next.
Welcome back in to another hour of Fox Football Saturday.

(40:44):
I am your host, Carmen Battally, and with me this
week I have Steve Hartman. Yeah, it's been a lot
of fun so far.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
I love hanging out with you coin same.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
We get to talk Major League baseball, we get to
talk college football, NFL football. There's so much going on
this time of year. It's so wonderful. Hockey season has started.
I've already been to my first Blackhawks game, took my
fiance to his first Blackhawks game. He loved it. I
think I think live hockey is one of the best

(41:16):
pro sports experience.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
It's again, I'm not a huge hockey guy, but I've
covered a lot, Like when the La Kings won two
Stanley Cups. I was at pretty much all the playoff games,
and there's no delay in the action. See that's the
beautiful thing about hockey TV. It's a bad TV sport, Yeah,
because you don't see the line changes. You don't see
really everything that's going on. Because I like to sit high,

(41:43):
you know. I want to see the whole ice, always.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
In the three hundred level.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
Absolutely, and I would love lay up high, especially for
a playoff games, so I can see the whole ice.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
Love it, love it.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
Yeah. And I and we were there for Connor Bandard's
first career hat trick, which was incredible. It was a
ten goal total hockey game. And the Hawks scored seven,
three of which were scored by Connor Bedard, who is
the bright spot in a team that has been very
unfortunate the last couple of years. So we're hoping they're
about five hundred. They're doing okay, but the end game
experience is just phenomen especially whenever it's throwing the hats

(42:15):
on the ice. It's just and if you're at three
hundred level, you're kind of getting a excuse to not
throw your hat, like you don't have to part ways
with your hacks.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
By the way, I gotta tell this sorry.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
I went to the United Center in Chicago and saw
a Blackhawks game way back in the day, all right,
and it was one of They're playing the San Jose Sharks,
and the black Hawks were up like five to the
game was pretty much over. Bob Probert, the notorious Bob Probert,
So he there's like a minute to go on the game,
and he skates by the San Jose bench and he

(42:45):
stops and something is said, and forty five minutes later,
the game's still going on, full ice.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
Brawl, jump over the boards.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
And the thing about it was same year I went
to a Michael Jordan Bulls game.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
The dynamic of the two was night and date.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
Oh, I mean it was sort of like, you know,
rich people looking at their watch. It was like an
LA crowd in Chicago for the Bulls game black Hawks
forget it, man, black I was at that point.

Speaker 1 (43:17):
That's why, like we used to go when I was
a really little kid in the nineties because they weren't
on TV and they were really cheap tickets. Yeah, And
so that's how I fell in love with hockey because
I was like, it was so violent and I loved
it and the rest just let it go. Like and
that was back in the day they had forcers and
like it was so much more physical than even it
is now. I it was. It was great. But we're

(43:40):
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Speaker 2 (44:07):
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dot Com. You haven't made a pick yet on tonight's
game seven? Which way are you?

Speaker 3 (44:31):
Are you leaning one way? Are you rooting one way?
Or just like whatever happens happens.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
I'm really not. I actually I interned for the Dodgers
in twenty thirteen.

Speaker 3 (44:39):
Did you really?

Speaker 1 (44:40):
I really did. I was in their PR department and
it was a really fun experience. So I have a
soft spot in my heart for the Dodgers because of that.
We made it to the NLCS that year, and it
was like postseason baseball. As an intern, even you're just
like bright eyed and bushy tailed, and especially being in
La where like the place like they would take the
celebrities like that, we're attending the game through our hallway
to like, so they could go around the car course

(45:00):
because our hallway ran parallel to the concourse. So like
I got to see like everybody and like that would
show up to the games and it was wild. So
I like, I have a soft spot in my heart
for the Dodgers, and like I just have such a
tremendous respect for what Shoheo Tani's doing right now. So
I guess I'm gonna go with the Dodgers.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
Well, it's it's gonna have a major effect on me.

Speaker 3 (45:18):
Obviously.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
I'm here in La I do La TV. And if
the Dodgers do win tonight, the parade will be months.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
They get to cover another parade.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
Parades are so fun, are they.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
I got to be a part of a boat parade
in Tampa when we won the Super Bowl, and I
was with the Buccaneers And that was not an exaggeration.

Speaker 4 (45:38):
Were you on that boat?

Speaker 1 (45:40):
No, not that, Well that was his boat.

Speaker 4 (45:42):
That was his boat.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
That's his like yacht. So like I didn't get the
I was on the defensive boat, so I was with
all the defensive players.

Speaker 3 (45:48):
Very good.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
I got hit in the thigh with a beer that
was launched into our boat from the shoreline. Somebody launched
a full can of beer, and because I was on
a boat with DB's and not receivers, it was not
caught and went straight. It's a great time. It's a
great story for another time. But I want to get
to talking about me who might win the Super Bowl

(46:09):
this year and what we have to look forward to
this week, because Week nine is I think last week
was I don't want to say a dud, because there's
no duds in the NFL each week, but it wasn't
like a real sexy lineup as far as the matchups
that we saw last week and turns out, I mean,
I think the average margin of victory last week was
like nine points or something stupid like that. This week, however,

(46:32):
we get Chiefs Bills like heading up the lineup of
all of these different games. So I want to start there, Steve,
I want to talk about Chiefs Bills because still regardless, like,
if you're talking about teams that you trust to be
in the mix in the postseason and to make a
run at the Super Bowl, I think these two are
at the top of your list, at least in the AFC.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
Well they are, and this is very predictable game.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
I mean, Josh Allen is four and one in regular
season games against Mahomes, and Mahomes is four and h
against them in the playoffs. You know, I'm a little
sort of off put by all this hype all of
a sudden once again with the Chiefs. They've won three
straight home games. Okay, you beat the Lions at home,
all right, that's that's a good win. You blew out

(47:18):
the pathetic Raiders at home? Does that even count? And
then you beat a Commander's team that has come down
this year predictably at home? Does that count?

Speaker 3 (47:31):
How is everybody back on this Chiefs bandwagon?

Speaker 2 (47:34):
I know that the elite teams look at I don't
know about you, Carmen, now, I mean, no one covers
it like you do with the NFL. But I mean,
it has been a pretty mediocre NFL season. Nothing has
really stood out from week to week. There's no rhyme
or reason.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
Like you know.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
It's maybe that's why you know, the Chiefs win consecutive games.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
Oh, the Chiefs are back, Okay, are they? I'm not
quite sure yet.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
And it's clear as we here at the midway point
of the season, there is no team that has separated
itself from the pack.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
No, And I mean I've talked about that kind of
all season long, where it doesn't especially when you're talking
about like teams that I am confident in going forward.
I think I'm confident in a team, and then the
next week they get beat or something a catastrophic injury happens,
or this that the other, and that comes along with,
you know, parody being at such a such a high level.

(48:28):
In the NFL right now, I think parody is at
an all time high where you just you don't know
what's gonna happen. Wea t week, and I ultimately I
think that's good for the sport because you know you
can't predict it. And like, in my in my opinion,
I should say, I like that. I like being being
surprised and seeing guys step up that maybe I didn't
think that could or would or whatever. I like being

(48:49):
I like that element of surprise that is now baked
into the NFL. But I think with the Chiefs in particular,
I am never going to count them out because of
the body of work that they have over the last
five or so years, maybe five to ten years at
that point, since Patrick Mahomes has been in the league.
It's no matter how they start, no matter what their

(49:11):
issues are, no matter what their injuries. Like barring I
think Patrick Mahomes, they seem to be able to weather
those storms season in and season out and still end
up in the Super Bowl each year. I mean, I
think back to two years ago when they suffered Patrick
Mahomes suffered the most drops in the league by his receivers,

(49:32):
and you were like, God, like, this offense just is sputtering.
It's not it doesn't look like it. But they went
out won the Super Bowl that year, and then last year,
I mean, same thing where which it took a while
to get going. Travis Kelcey was a non factor for
most of the season last year, and then all of
a sudden, you know, they still make it to the
super Bowl and didn't win the Super Bowl. But I

(49:52):
just think that there is a inherent trust in the
Chiefs because we have this proof of concept that they
can withstand whatever it is. And I do think that
they are trending back in the right direction. If you
look at some of the advanced metrics and how they're unproductive,
their offense has been. They've got an overall explosive rate
of nearly fifteen percent, which is top ten in the league,

(50:14):
and it's the first time in the top ten in
that metric since twenty twenty two. So they are being
tremendously effective on offense, and I'm very interest like their
defense has They've had to make some adjustments, but Spags
is very, very good. Their defensive coordinators to Spagnolo is
so good at that and we've seen a lot more
i feel like exotic and maybe different blitz packages from

(50:37):
him than we have, you know, involving multiple levels of
the defense in that. So I just think there's a
lot of proof of concept there. But to your point,
at the end of the day, Josh Allen and the
Bills do really well against this team in the regular season,
and we're still in the regular season.

Speaker 4 (50:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
Look, I predicted one of my few correct predictions, a
double digit Egle victory in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
I was absolutely right.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
I said, you can't ignore that this Chiefs offense has
struggled pretty much the entire year. I think they had
one regular season game at least thirty points. Look, I'm
on the record here. Carmen Patrick Mahomes has played in
his last Super Bowl. Wow, he has played in his
last Super Bowl. I'm just I'm making that prediction. I
know there are Chiefs, I've not got so many names

(51:19):
fans that are friends. And by the way, these are
real Chiefs fans that were fans long before the Chiefs
became a dominant team. I just don't see it anymore.
I don't see game breakers. I think that Mahomes is phenomenal.
I'm never going to take anything away from Patrick Mahomes.
I said, if you really want to classify, you know,
franchise quarterbacks, there's one.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
His name is Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 4 (51:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
You have Josh Allen.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
Yeah, you have Lamar Jackson, Yeah, you have Jalen Hurts,
you have Joe Burrow.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
They're not in the same breath with Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
So by my definition, there is one franchise quarterback in
the NFL, and that is Patrick Mahomes. But at the
same time, I just don't think the supporting cast is
where it needs to be for them to get another
Super Bowl championship or even get to the Super Bowl.
So I know they're in the ANFC Championship every year
and everyone's expecting the same thing after three straight home

(52:15):
wins only one of them with quality win against the Lions.

Speaker 4 (52:18):
I don't see it.

Speaker 3 (52:20):
I just don't.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
I do have the Bills making it to the Super Bowl,
so I pick Packers Bills because I just think it'd
be fun for the league. But I'm still I'm never
going to count out not only Patrick Mahomes, but Patrick Mahomes.
With Andy Reid as his.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
Well, how much longer is Anny going to be a rent?

Speaker 1 (52:35):
Well, And that's the question. So it's how much longer?
I think the bigger question here is how much longer
is Andy Reid gonna coach? And maybe that factors into Yeah,
maybe Pat has played in his last Super Bowl. I
don't necessarily see it because I've seen them weather so
many different storms.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
But well, Andy Reid ill prepared his team for that
Super Bowl unfortunately, and he basically admitted it afterwards.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
Yeah, well that's what happens. I mean, you know, when
you lose that badly, there is a drastic breakdown that
that that that then happened. But we're gonna see what
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(53:43):
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(54:05):
which is a okay by me. There are I don't
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wish it was still like nineteen ninety eight. Wow, it
was a great year.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
It was ninety See your perspective on times a lot
different than mine, Carmen A lot.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
I know, I know, I mean, I don't like whether
it's because I actually loved the nineties, or it was
just I didn't have any responsibilities. You know, who knows
It's fine. What are you doing in nine ninety eight?

Speaker 4 (54:34):
Steve, nineteen ninety eight?

Speaker 2 (54:35):
Let's see, did you see like win a rose Bull
in ninety eight? No, they lost a rose Bull that year.
Thanks so much for reminding me to Wisconsin.

Speaker 3 (54:43):
Was Wisconsin? Thanks for reminding me the way around, way
to go?

Speaker 1 (54:46):
Pretty sure, Arizona State won the Super when the Rose
Bowl in ninety seven. With the year before that, right.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
Yeah, I was well into my radio career at that point,
about ten years in and actually started doing my LATV
gig in nineteen ninety.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
Oh see, it was a good year. It was a
good year.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
My second son was born, you know. Sweet, Yeah, that's back.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
And I love the kid, my two boys because they're
born in the twentieth century.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
My daughter was born in the twenty first century, so.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
Yeah, yeah, wow, she's a whole millennium.

Speaker 3 (55:20):
Yeah.

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Speaker 1 (56:12):
All right, let's get back to football, yes, because there
has been a lot that has happened this week. If
you are a South Florida resident and happen to be
a fan of the Miami Dolphins. The Miami Dolphins have
parted ways with their general manager, Chris Career at a
record of two and seven after getting embarrassed on Thursday
Night Football versus the Ravens. Who look better I'm not

(56:34):
gonna say great, but they look better Chris Greer has
been with the organization since two thousand. He's been their
general manager since twenty sixteen. Among his first picks of
each draft class, I'm not going to go through every
draft class because that would be that would take a
long time. But his very first pick with the organization

(56:55):
was Laramie Tunzel, who is still in the league, not
with the Dolphins, but still are still a good player.
You had obviously to a Taco Bailola. You have Jalen Wattle,
who is still currently a Dolphin. Both of those guys
still Dolphins. You had some issues in twenty twenty two
and twenty twenty three. You traded for Tyreek Hill, giving

(57:16):
up your first and second round picks, and that Tyreek
Hill trade we can dive into a little bit more
as to if it was worth it for this franchise.
And then in twenty twenty three they did not have
a first round pick again, and it was because of
the tampering penalty for trying to recruit Tom Brady sort
of ish. It never worked out and the Dolphins lost

(57:38):
their first round pick. His last two have been Kenneth
Grant and Chop Robinson. This tenuere has been tumultuous to
say the least. This season has been tumultuous for the
Miami Dolphins, to say the least. What does this do though,
to you, Steve? What does it do to fire Chris
Greer at this point in the season?

Speaker 2 (58:00):
Can we fire Steven Ross as the owner of the Dolphins?

Speaker 4 (58:03):
I mean here again once once.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
When you have an organization who won their last playoff
game when Bill Clinton was still president, they have the
longest drought of any current NFL team without a playoff victory.

Speaker 3 (58:17):
That was twenty five years ago.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
Since Stephen Ross took over his owner, they've only been
in the playoffs three times, well sort of a fourth
year he bought it, but he hadn't had one hundred
percent of the team. So when you have ownership that
is completely inept, which always amazes me, and we've seen
this so many times of professional sports. We have these
self made billionaires and yeah, you gotta be smart to

(58:43):
become a billionaire, right.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
That's the biggest farce on the planets. And then and
then they come in spirits.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
I mean, you know, we got the temper situation, we
care another disaster. I mean, these guys come in and
you know they got a new toy, and it's a
great investment because no matter how bad you are, you're going.

Speaker 4 (59:06):
To make billions.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
I mean it's it is the number one investment that
you can make is to buy, especially an NFL team.
So from that standpoint, he's making money hand over fist.
The problem is if you are a fan of that franchise,
and of course on end Zone Radio every Sunday Tomorrow,
V J.

Speaker 3 (59:23):
Husky is a diehard Dolphins fan, you have.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
To suffer because you have complete ineft ownership, and that's
what it's all about.

Speaker 3 (59:32):
So you know, you fire the GM, but you're gonna
keep McDaniel.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
What's the purpose of that other than the fact that, well,
I'm paying the guy, so I don't want to eat
that money. I'm gonna make him work out the rest
of the season. Okay, well that gee, that's a sound
business plan. Why didn't you just wait till the end
of the season to fire your GM? I mean, what's
he gonna do now? He's not gonna make any changes
that are going to get the Dolphins back into the

(59:57):
playoff pictures. So these are the kind of inept, lame brain, unexplicable,
inexplicable decisions made by a buffoon who somehow made a
billion dollars as a businessman, because that's what he is,
Stephen Ross is a buffoon.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
I will have no argument, but I will say that
parting ways with I think the timing not only has
to do with you got embarrassed on national television, but
you have the trade deadline coming up this right, and
do you want this GM to do another trade deadline
for you?

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
Well, he says he doesn't want to trade waddle. I mean,
what what do you have to offer anybody on the
trade market and what are you going to get in return?

Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
Well, I mean, with the writing on the wall, be
could you have guaranteed that Chris Greer wasn't going to
go out and make some you know, makes make something happen,
make make some trade happen that you know, just out
of spite if nothing else. I like, I kind of
get doing it from that regard, but there really is
Without firing Mike McDaniel, then too, you're not actually changing anything.

(01:00:58):
You're just preventing something else from happening by getting rid
of Chris Greer before the trade deadline. But you haven't
really improved your outlook. You haven't improved your team in
any way by also then retaining Mike McDaniel. And if
you didn't want to send the organization into chaos mid season,
then you shouldn't have made any moves at all. So

(01:01:18):
I just I don't really understand the timing from that
perspective either. Like I get that you, I think it's
shortsighted to say you just didn't want him to do
the trade deadline for it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
Well, when you look at the AFC East, you have
two of the worst owners in the NFL, and Woody
Johnson and Steve Ross, right, and then you have Bob Kraft,
who realized after one year, I made a mistake. The
coach I hired, I made a mistake, Bye bye. I'm

(01:01:49):
going to bring in a competent coach, an actual proven
NFL coach who obsenced also have ties with the Patriot
organization of Mike Vrabel. How's that working for the Patriots?

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
That's going pretty well?

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
Not too bad? Right?

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
So then again, Quarterback and Berley Quarterback was an MVP game.

Speaker 3 (01:02:06):
By the way, it's so unfortunate.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
Bob Craft obviously belongs in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Unfortunately it's not going to be this year because they
can only pick one person that, like Belichick, is going
to be a first ballot Hall of Famer obviously, and
that's going to keep Bob Kraft waiting at least another year.
But again, that's sound ownership, reckon. That's what the Patriots
did for years. They would make a mistake like everybody else,

(01:02:31):
but they would cut their ties immediately. We're not gonna say, well,
give it a little more time. No, cut your ties immediately.
And now the Patriots are back relevant and in the
playoff mix.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
As your Mike McDaniel right now, Like the rating is
on the wall. So how do you finish this season?

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
How does he even walk in the walker? First of all,
have you watched his demeanor on the sideline? Oh, it's
like he just stares at the chart, like he never
looks up. He doesn't seem to acknowledge anyone around him.
I mean, if I was Mike McDaniel, I mean, he's
still got some value I guess in terms of being
an assistant or getting another job. Why would you one
look at I know I have a contract, I know

(01:03:10):
you owe.

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
Me money, Let me go.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
I mean, what is the point of me still standing
here on the sideline.

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
I can't. Yeah, I mean he's clearly already lost the
locker room that happened earlier in the season. That's already happened.
But how do you continue to do this job now?
If you're Mike McDaniel, knowing that, for whatever reason, the
owner of your team, your boss decided, I just want
you to finish out the season. But we're gonna let
you go after that. Like I just dead man walking.

(01:03:39):
He's a dead man walking in South Florida. Yeah, I
don't know, have a lot of games left, and you
still have a ton of games.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
Games left that you got to suffer through. So I
will see how this all plays out, but we shall, we.

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
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(01:04:14):
Wise and the update booth for a game break on
college football.

Speaker 8 (01:04:20):
Well, first of all, we got to update some NFL news. Oh,
but Baltimore Ravens have traded cornerback Jaire Alexander and the
seventh round pick to the Philadelphia Eagles in exchange for
a twenty twenty sixth sixth round pick. Jayir Alexander has
had a tumultuous experience in Baltimore thus far.

Speaker 4 (01:04:37):
Yes, in and out of the lineup with.

Speaker 8 (01:04:40):
A healthy scratch on Thursday, and is now going to Philadelphia.

Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
Pike seventh round pick.

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
Yeah, if he can, if he can rehabilitate his career anywhere,
it's going to be as part of that defensive secondary
I will see.

Speaker 8 (01:04:55):
Speaking of potential rehabilitation of careers, the GRIZZLIESSU spended John
Moran from one game for conduct detrimental to the team.

Speaker 4 (01:05:03):
Did you all see this interview yesterday?

Speaker 8 (01:05:06):
Now this postgame press conference, he was asked he was
basically benched in the fourth quarter, and I get it,
it's football, It's like eight I know, but he was
benched in the fourth quarter and then was asked after it,
and his response consistently was go ass the coaching staff,
Go ask the coaching staff. And then it was asked,
besides asking the coaching staff, what do you think the
coaching staff would say? He said, I think the coaching

(01:05:28):
staff might say, don't play me anymore once. So now
he is suspended for minutes. Sorry Memphis. His next game
college football, Louisville with a fourteen unanswered the second half
points over Virginia Tech twenty one to sixteen, fourteen minutes
left in the fourth quarter. There twelve was se twelve

(01:05:50):
to fifty left in the third quarter. Maryland just had
a big rushing touchdown twenty to ten. The score now
the tenth ring Hoosiers undefeated halftime. Georgia and Florida tye
tennapece fifth ranked Georgia six and one on the year
thus far. Notre Dame with a twelve to seven lead
over Boston College. Boston College only has one win on
the year. Notre Dame's a twelfth ranked team in the nation.

(01:06:12):
Fourteen minutes left in the third quarter there, Texas Tech
with a touchdown just kicked the extra point nineteen to seven.
The lead over Kansas State to thirteen minutes left in
the third quarter. There, Pittsburgh over Stanford twenty one to
thirteen earlier. Today saw wins for Texas squeaking past Vanderbilt,
Ohio State routed Penn State, shm U upset Miami in overtime.

(01:06:34):
Houston loses to for West Virginia. Another upset there. That's
West Virginia's first conference win on the year.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
Back to you guys, Thank you Martin. Now we're gonna
go bring on a very familiar guest friend of the show,
someone I know very well. He is the co host
of The Athletic Football Show alongside Robert Mason Derek Class
and his name is David Hollman. How are you, Dave.

Speaker 5 (01:07:02):
I'm wonderful guy. It's good to be on again.

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
Very excited to have you. Uh you actually just tweeted
because when we just learned Jaya Alexander on the way
to Philadelphia from Baltimore, he'd been a healthy scratch in
that Thursday night game. What do we make of this?
I mean, obviously Philly could use the help, But do
we think that Jah is the answer?

Speaker 5 (01:07:26):
I think my initial reaction would be probably not. I
just I think it's it's been a long time since
Jarire Alexander was the caliber of cornerback that people remember.
I don't think, you know, you wouldn't be He wouldn't
be in Baltimore if he was still that guy, and
you wouldn't be getting him out of there for a
late day three pick if he was. But quarnerback two
has just been an issue for Philly all year long,

(01:07:49):
going all the way back to training camp. I mean
it was it was supposed to be Kiley Ringo. He
hasn't really been the guy they brought in the Dory Jackson.
He really hasn't been in the guy. They did a
training camp trade for Jacoreyan Bennett who was with the Raiders.
They have tried a lot of stuff and it is
still easily the biggest problem with their defense. So what
I mean, you're giving up a late day three pick

(01:08:11):
for another guy who can try to be an answer.
I mean, he doesn't need to play like an all
pro if he can just give you serviceable cornerback to
play behind Quinnon Mitchell. This is this is clearly a
Philly team with very high aspirations, don't I don't think
it's a huge price to pay. So I don't want
to give people the wrong idea and think this is
some groundshaking move, But it at least has a chance

(01:08:33):
to make the Philly defense a lot better, and that's
all you need when the rest of the roster is
so good, Dave.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
I wish I could go back before the season and
see if I get gotten some odds going into Week nine,
the midweek of the season, and predicted that the Colts
and Patriots to be the top.

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
Two seeds in the AFC.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
I'm sure I could have gotten some astronomical odds on that.
Do you buy into these two teams? I mean, everyone suddenly, Rifley.
You know, the Chiefs went three in a row at home,
two against bad teams, and everyone's back on the Chiefs bandwagon.
But do you buy on the legitimacy of the Colts
and the Patriots currently the top two seeds in the AFC.

Speaker 5 (01:09:15):
It is pretty sick right, Like time is a flat circle.
The Colts and the Patriots are at the top of
the AFC. It's like it's two thousand and six all
over again. To varying degrees. I mean, I think both
teams are are legitimately good teams. I buy the Colts
as a real contender a little bit more because I
just think there's so much there. I mean, the infrastructure

(01:09:39):
of the Colts offense is so impressive. They have one
of the best offensive lines in football. Those guys are
playing out of their minds. Jonathan Taylor is reminding everybody
that he is one of the very best backs in football.
I've said this a couple times. I mean, not taking
any credit away from Sakuon Barkley or Derrick Henry and
those guys were amazing last year, but Jonathan Taylor has

(01:09:59):
showed many times over his career that he's in that
category of back and he just needed a guy like
Daniel Jones to come along and unlock the full potential
of the Colts offense. And I mean they're deep at
at receiver. They go like one to five at receiver.
Tyler Warren is a candidate for Offensive Rookie of the Year.
So even though the defense is it's not elite, it's

(01:10:21):
certainly not bad, but it's not elite. I just think
the depth and the versatility of that offense gives me
a lot of confidence that this is not a mirage.
And that's not to say anything too bad about the Patriots.
I just think I think that Patriots it's a lot
more about Drake May just ascending into being one of
the very best young quarterbacks in football. You know, they

(01:10:41):
don't run the ball particularly well. Their offensive line is
promising but not a finished product. The pass catchers have
been good, but I don't think they're as good as
the Colts, like all the way down their depth chart,
so there's not as much there for me to get
excited about other than the fact that the quarterback is incredible.
Don't get me wrong. I mean, I'm buying all the

(01:11:01):
Drake maystock that I can, but I do think eventually
the culture or excuse me, the Pats are going to
run up in a situation where they need a little
bit more than just Drake May playing out of his mind.
So I mean, I think they're both very good. I
think I saw this week that they both have better
than a ninety percent chance to make the postseason. But
as far as doing more than that, I'm a little

(01:11:22):
bit higher on the Colts.

Speaker 1 (01:11:24):
As someone who fell in love with Drake May in
the pre draft process before he was drafted, very happy
for his success, but I do agree that I think
the Colts are just a little farther along. We can't
let you go, Dave, though without talking about your alma mater.
We talked about it earlier in the show.

Speaker 5 (01:11:43):
Are you sure, yes?

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
I know, I need, I need, I need, I need
you on record talking about LSU football?

Speaker 4 (01:11:51):
What how?

Speaker 1 (01:11:52):
What do they do? Where did they go from here?
Is the governor of Louisiana going to be the one
to hire make these like monumental hires at LSU?

Speaker 5 (01:12:04):
I just I just want somebody at LSU to act
like an adult. That's really, That's all I got for you.
I mean, the situation with the governor is ridiculous, and
I wouldn't blame a coach for taking a look at
that and saying, ooh, do I really want to walk
into this toxic mess of a situation a swamp if
you will, pardon the pun. But at the same time,

(01:12:29):
I mean, look, LSU, Louisiana kirk Kapita is one of
the most talent rich states in the country. I mean,
it's not Texas or Florida, but considering there's only four
million people in the state, there's a hell of a
lot of good football players there, and it's a school
that you know, they we've come to expect excellence, not
just like the fan base, but like the boosters and

(01:12:50):
the power structure. I mean, people are at LSU are
admitted to the football team being good. You're going to
have resources, You're going to have the money to acquire
talent and the access to talent. I think it's still
a very desirable job. I'm not freaking out too much
about the nonsense this week. I think that'll die down
as LSU hires a new president and a new athletic

(01:13:12):
director to go along with that. But I need that
to happen sooner rather than later. I need I need
an adult to step into the room and say, hey,
we're gonna shut all of this bickering and nonsense down
and focus on hiring a good football coach. And I
think that'll happen. But man, I'm really tired of seeing
LSU in the news for the wrong reasons over the
last week or so.

Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
Who do you got tonight? The world's serious game? Seven?
Real quick?

Speaker 5 (01:13:38):
I mean this is just I'm a petty fan, but
the Blue Jays knocked my Mariners out, so I want
to see the Dodgers lift the trophy. I'd rather, you know,
I'm used to the Dodgers being great. I don't want
the team that beat my team to win.

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
What senseisees the Mariners losing.

Speaker 3 (01:13:56):
It's like, okay, but we lost to the team that
won the World's See.

Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
I've had this conversation with him. There's no saving him.
He's petty.

Speaker 5 (01:14:03):
If my team, if my team can't be happy, then
I don't want the team.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
And how could you be the fan of the only
team that's never been to a World Series?

Speaker 7 (01:14:11):
That was That.

Speaker 5 (01:14:13):
Was a bad choice made by eight year old me,
But I'm thinking by it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
Growing up in Louisiana, he didn't have He had Ken
Giffrey Junior to watch, and that's that's what he wanted
to That's what he wanted to do. Dave, thank you
so much for joining us today. Thanks for suffering through
the LSU conversation. Talk to you. Uh yeah, so he's
he is he He grew up idolizing Ken Griffy Junior,
became a Mariners fan, so now he doesn't want the

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Blue Jays to wait.

Speaker 2 (01:14:40):
He's all over the map.

Speaker 1 (01:14:43):
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have a baseball team, so you gotta go pick one.
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segment of Fox Football Saturday. That time flies, especially when
you're having fun. Uh, stay tuned, keep it locked right
here for more Fox Football Saturday. On the other side,
did did did?

Speaker 2 (01:15:15):
Do?

Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
My God? I love this song. This song was on
the Power Rangers movie soundtrack. You guys, that's where I
first got Wow. Uh, I think it was or no,
it was The Batman Forever, one of those movies Space Jam.
I was so wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
The original Space Jam, the Lebron Space Jam is one
of the most painful movie experiences that I have ever
suffered through it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:43):
It's really it was.

Speaker 3 (01:15:44):
It was really so bad.

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
I think there was a nostalgic fast or too to
the original Space Jam, which I absolutely loved. Obviously, growing
up in Chicago Hughes Michael Jordan, bulls person fan everything,
I grew up thinking it was the National Bowls Association
because they were in the championship every year.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
Do you know that Lebron will never play another game
for the Lakers.

Speaker 1 (01:16:06):
That's that's on Steve's that's me, Steve. I was gonna say, well,
this Saya never playing Patrick Mahomes never playing another Super Bowl.
Lebron is never playing another.

Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
This mystery ailment that Lebron is suffering through right now
is is basically all sides trying to figure out what's
the next move is basically, And now that Mark Walter
has officially taken over as the owner of the Lakers,
he's not going to put up with this nonsense. So
something's going to happen soon. But yeah, Lebron's never going

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to play for the Lakers again.

Speaker 1 (01:16:40):
You guys heard it here first coming up in about
twelve ish minutes. You know him, you love him. Maybe
you get Buck Rising and you get Jason Fence, two
guys that happened to know very well, happen to love
And if you ask me that again, I'll deny it.
They'll take you into the early evening on this lovely Saturday,
we're getting ready for a Game seven of the World Series.

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feel like I don't have to ask you this, Steve,
who you got tonight?

Speaker 4 (01:17:22):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
Again, as I said at the very top of the show,
baseball needs not just the Dodgers to win. They need
Shohei Otani to have another one of those nights, you know,
like three home runs, ten strikeout nights, or you know,
reach base nine times in a Game seven of the

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World Series.

Speaker 1 (01:17:44):
Potentially, Is he gonna do it? Is he gonna do it? Though?
Do you think he's gonna have that night?

Speaker 2 (01:17:50):
Okay, let me let me close my eyes for a
second here. I don't want to take a lot of
time on this. I'm just gonna try to get a feel.
Absolutely he's gonna do it. Oh, because Bo's with bo Is.
There's no bigger Dodger fan than Bo and Bo.

Speaker 3 (01:18:06):
You feel it right?

Speaker 1 (01:18:07):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
This is going to be the exclamation point on what
has already been the most unique career in Major League history.

Speaker 3 (01:18:17):
Game seven World Series.

Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
Pitching, hitting, This is the exclamation point for showy O.

Speaker 3 (01:18:23):
Tom.

Speaker 9 (01:18:23):
Yeah, it's it's interesting that this game found itself in
Oi's hands, Like that's the only way this was ever
going to go is goes.

Speaker 3 (01:18:30):
It has to deliver, it has to and it will.

Speaker 1 (01:18:36):
Right Sorry jays fans, No, I mean, like I said,
like I said earlier, story I mean, the stage is
just set so perfectly for this to be that story book.

Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
It has to happen, Carmen. The script has been written
and this is it. It's not going to be just
a shot of victory. It's going to be a historic
night for show.

Speaker 1 (01:19:00):
Hey, o'tani, Truly, you couldn't write a better situation, Like
you couldn't write better drama, better, a better lineup. You couldn't.
You just you couldn't. You couldn't. Then, so it has
to go the way you wanted to go and the
way you want it to end.

Speaker 9 (01:19:16):
I am now deeply concerned, though, because Steve always picks incorrectly.

Speaker 2 (01:19:20):
No, no, no, no, So think about this alright, Max
Schurzer has already given up a home run to show he.

Speaker 4 (01:19:27):
So we know we know that that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
Is very much in the mix, like lead off home
run boom right off the bat show.

Speaker 9 (01:19:35):
Hey, o'dani, I mean I personally would love this game
needs to go two ways. For my heart, it either
needs to go six run first sitting for the Dodgers
or six run first sitting for the Blue Jays so
that I can move on with my life. I cannot handle.

Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
Drama, and especially the way the umpire has been working
this series, that the strike zone is all over the place.

Speaker 1 (01:19:58):
The series that has already seen an eighteen inning game.
This is not this is the you better, You better
buckle up, bo. That's all I have to say. Yeah,
we're gonna, we're gonna, We're all gonna be glued to
the television screen and I'm very excited about it. I
want to get to very quickly. Just something that made

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me laugh this week, because I think we all need
a little more laughter in our lives these days. My
LOL moment of the week. It being Halloween yesterday, obviously
there were a lot of fun things happening. A bunch
of teams did different things aid the other. Dan Campbell
let it split head coach with the Detroit Lions that
he one time dressed up as Marilyn Monroe when he

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was during his playing days, and his wife Holly doing
the lord's work. Then posted photographic evidence of Dan Campbell
dressed up as Marilyn Monroe, multiple photos. It was incredible,
it was amazing. It made me lose my ever loving mind.
Thank you very much, Holly Campbell for bringing that all

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into our lives.

Speaker 3 (01:21:02):
Wow, I gotta check this out here.

Speaker 1 (01:21:05):
Big like six foot six Dan Campbell.

Speaker 3 (01:21:07):
That's not Marilyn Monroe. He just put a I mean
he put.

Speaker 1 (01:21:10):
A wig up, but he was wearing a dress. We
love this, We love that kind of masculinity. Man, you
can wear a dress, you can do whatever. All right,
you guys, You guys, have a great rest of your day.
Tune in for the World Series. It's gonna be a
great one. We're out