Buck & Fitz Discuss All the Lane Kiffin Drama, Debate NFL Coach of the Year & More!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
The best part about college football in some ways is
it eventually it kind of takes care of itself. Eventually
we see the cream rise to the top and the
chaos that we all about every single.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Week normalize this.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
This week feels like the sort of week where we
can finally get some answers as we sit right now,
questions like does USC have an outside path that the
college football playoffs are being answered in front of our
very eyes, and yes we have.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Cupcakes that we just have to survive through.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
But through it all, every single week a little bit
more elimination happens, and I'm here for it.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
He's Buck rising up Jason fitz.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Bucket fits on Fox Sports Radio Big Day, Big day
in college football because USC organ going on right now.
And I know most of you guys don't care about
us the organ because it's West Coast football and most
people don't care.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
About West Coast football, but you do.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
I mean, look, I'm just being East Coast bias, but
I'm just being honest. Buck, Like you give me a
little bit of a weird head nod there. But if
the show is in Los Angeles. Skipped out on us
last week to go to a USC game and you
open up by saying, nobody cares about this football game.
That's about the closest football game being played right now,
is Notre Dame dog.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Walks Syracuse fifty six to.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Not talking shocking.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
No, Look, I mean the numbers are what the numbers are.
I mean, I get, okay, you care that, that's why
you care. I get that you care, and there's always
gonna be a you care on that. But like, let's
be honest here, the numbers are never quite the same
for Oregon USC as they are for I don't know, Alabama,
Georgia or like, like, well, just be honest about this,
like Michigan versus Ohio State, Like Oregon USC is not

(01:38):
out here. Just the world isn't shutting down. Every sports
bar in America isn't flocking to put this game on TV.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
What happens is we say, oh, that's.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
A good game, and people are like, oh, really like
West Coast unfortunate. As a kid that grew up on
the West Coast, I accept the fact that a large
portion of the country doesn't pay the same level of
attention to West Coast college football.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
I don't think this is a hot take.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Bok Ian, How does it feel to be a second
class citizen?

Speaker 4 (02:03):
WHOA, that's such a weird way of putting it. Yeah,
flag for sure, thank you.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
No, no, no, not flag on me. He's telling you that
that's not me. I'm pointing out the behavior that Jason
Fitz has opened the show yet again. How many weeks
can we go consecutively?

Speaker 4 (02:18):
Radio, it's the biggest game of the day, game day
was so people care for sure. Like if there was
literally not was Michigan Ohio State going on today, obviously
that would take president. But this is the biggest game
of the day. It's a great game ahead.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
Sell me on Texas, Arkansas fits a Notre Dame, Syracuse, Vanderbilt, Kentucky, Tennessee.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Look, I make my living in part because of my
love of college football. I look, at the end of
the day, I'm not saying that anybody on the West
Coast is a second second class citizen. I'm saying there's
a whole bunch of the nation that just doesn't pay
the same level of attention. They just released the top
ten most watched football programs over the course of the
last year.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Neither of them were named USC or Oregon, Like, I'm not.
This is not a.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Hot take that the base everything west of the Colorado,
the Rockies isn't paying the East. I should say, if
the Rockies isn't paying the same level of attention to
West Coast football, it's the reason that every week people.

Speaker 5 (03:10):
Say, listen, I'm not trying to cut you off, but
just real quickly, I'm here on the West Coast. I've
been here ten years. Half of Los Angeles doesn't even
know this game is being played right now. And with
you one hundred that's true, that's true.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
But over the grand scheme of college football, this is
the best game of the day.

Speaker 5 (03:26):
Yeah, well that's the SEC's fault for scheduling. Mercer and
ourad know what do we? I mean, not only we started,
this is their show. But I just gotta I stand
with you on the West coast part.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Like I look, I said this when I moved to Nashville,
I was like, all right, what's the college football thing?

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Everybody cares about it.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
I grew up in Vegas, Like, not a single person
in Vegas twenty years ago was sitting there saying go
check out UNLV football. Even now, UNLV football played Hawaii
last night. I watched it. Did anybody else? No, Like, yeah,
I hear you, it's the best game of the day
in college football.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
All right, Well what does that mean? Like there are
times where you walk up to the movie means it's.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
A college football Saturday and there's nothing else on. What
else are you gonna watch? What do you mean? What
does that mean? That is compleating total nonsense? How many
consecutive weeks are we gonna go with you starting the
show by saying this grand thing that nobody actually cares about,
but we're gonna start with it anyway. Is here in
front of you stick with us for the next two hours.
I could grab you by your tiny little shoulders and
shake you.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Look.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
I think that there's consequence to Oregon USC. I was
actually saying the other side. I was saying, Hey, you
may not be paying attention to it, but you should,
because at least we can eliminate USC from the college
football playoff conversation. If USC had won today against Oregon,
and they still might, I mean, there's still time left.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
To be played in this game.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
I'm just trying to be beacon a light, right, There's
still time to be played in this game. If USC wins,
things get wildly complicated. My grander point here was that
even through the irrelevance most people feel about this game,
it is relevant because it is a factor that needed
to happen, Like some of these games just need to happen,
so we can end into certain conversations. Can USC play

(05:02):
their way into the college football playoff answers?

Speaker 6 (05:05):
No?

Speaker 1 (05:05):
Will Oregon get a ton of respect from this game?
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
You know that these are the things so we get answers.
I actually enjoy. You find this to be cynical. I
find this to just be a realist that's stacking my
bricks of logic to make perfectly normal sense.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
I'm upset. I'm just generally upset at this point in time.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
I'm promise me.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
Oh, well, Vandy needs Tennessee to win tonight, and they
haven't won in the Swamp since two thousand and three,
so Vandy needs more than beating up on a bad
Kentucky team. They got it, starting quarterback knocked out with
a neck injury. Hopefully cutter bowls okay, of course, but yeah,
not much of a contest. Just down the street from
me here in Nashville today, on west end for Vanderbilt,
which is fine. They got to handle business. They got
to win out the rest of the way, and they

(05:50):
still need help in the college football playoff landscape, as
we set up. My bigger issue with the idea that
USC and Oregon has stakes is that Oregon shouldn't be
the seventheth team in the entry fits. I just I
am so confused. When last we met, we talked about
the idea that the College Football Playoff Selection Committee was
changing the chair because of the issues going on with

(06:12):
mac Rhodes and Baylor, and that Hunter, you're a check,
the Arkansas athletic director would be now the new chair,
and they would bring in an additional athletic director to
fill the voting seat and all these different things. And
you asked me the question about, you know, how much
could this impact the College Football Playoff rankings and all
of these things, And I was like, I mean, I

(06:33):
don't know. We didn't know how much it was impacting
things beforehand, other than whatever the chair at the time
would say to Rees Davis on these Tuesday night shows
that nobody, I don't think really pays that close attention
to you just wake up the next day on Wednesday morning,
check the rankings and see what you're mad about. But Oregon,
if you want to talk about things that people are
actually not watching, Oregon being the seventh ranked team in

(06:56):
the country is my biggest issue of any of these things,
even beyond Miami being ranked below Notre Dame, which has
taken up a lot of oxygen this week.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
You think Oregon is too low at seven, I'm presuming from.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
The way they talk, I think Oregon has no business
in the top ten.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
That's what I mean. You think Oregon's too high? Correct
the problem that?

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Okay, I hear you, But where is the great deserving
team that's being left out by Oregon being ranked.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
Where they are?

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Like, do you believe today on a neutral football field
that there are teams below them that would be better? Like,
I don't have any faith in Texas that we're watching
today against Arkas.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
I don't have any faith in Texas.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
I don't have any faith in most of the teams
that are sitting sort of in that middle ground right now, right,
Like that's a hard part, right, I hear you. I
don't think like is oklhobe Notre Dame is better than Oregon?
And I think Notre Dame is going to rise after
what they did today. I think, you know, Notre Dame
is going to continue to get some respect. Would you
put a two loss Alabama team above a one loss

(08:00):
Oregon team right now?

Speaker 3 (08:02):
I think the resume is better. I acknowledge that one
less loss on the season would probably be the greatest argument.
But if you're talking about as tough as stretch as
any team has faced so far this season, you could
bring up oklahoma schedule, and oklahoma schedule has not been easy,
and they've managed the situation quite well. It was an
ugly win today at home seventeen to six over ranked Mazoo,

(08:23):
but that was a win that they needed and I
fully expect that, you know, I mean, even if Oregon wins,
I would advocate for Oklahoma to be ranked above Oregon.
I would also advocate for Alabama to be ranked above
Oregon given the situation that they played and beat four
ranked opponents consecutively during the meat of their schedule and
then lost to Oklahoma and at home, and that it

(08:46):
was a bad loss for them at the time, given
where they were and how far they fell, and the
way that they looked while doing it. What three turnovers
did Oklahoma force on Alabama in that game, and again
to lose at Tuscaloosa hurts them additionally. But yeah, I mean,
I get that I could easily be accused of SEC
bias because of where I live in the country, in Nashville,

(09:07):
and how much more I think SEC football means than
anywhere else in the country. The depth of the conference
greater than anywhere else in the country. And I don't
want to discount Oregon because Oregon's just playing who's in
front of them. And yeah, they got beat up in
a second half by a better Indiana team. It's the
number two team in the country, but that happened at
home as well. I give greater weight to SEC schedules,

(09:29):
probably than most people. I may accept the argument that
I have a little bit of bias there.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Well, here's what's hard, and this is why what we
talked about last week with the Ites Committee matters, right,
because you mentioned.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
Briefly, but it's worth at least exploring here.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Miami has a win over Notre Dame, but Notre Dame
is ranked well ahead of Miami in the College Football
Playoff frankings, And what does that remind us? It doesn't
tell us anything that reminds us because we already heard this.
This is an itest committee, right, and so even your check,
the committee chair said flat out that Miami and Notre
Dame were not viewed as close enough in the eyes

(10:05):
of the committee to even have a conversation about their
head to head matchup. So what they're telling you is that, hey, guys,
like much like if we were power ranking the NFL today,
they're basically telling you that Miami beating Notre Dame is
the equivalent of the Raiders beating the Patriots in Week one.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
There's no meaning to it. The committee is.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Taking that that level of flippancy to a head to
head matchup. They're essentially saying that happened then, and we
don't care about it. And I think when you have
an eye test committee, it gets a little dangerous. I
don't know how the eye test Committee values the entirety
of the SEC, but I would tell you that I.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
Don't think that they have the same level of SEC.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
I don't want to say biased, so I will say
leaning that many people have, because if they did, Alabama
would be higher. Oregon really hasn't played anybody, and I
wonder how much all of this comes back to what
we expected of Oregon.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Coming into the season, Like we thought Oregon was going
to be really good.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
So now we just presume that Oregon is really good,
even though they haven't truly been tested by much of
anything on their schedule. So I see both sides of it.
I'm truly I'm glad I'm not in the committee. I'm
glad I'm not in the committee because you could make
the argument to me that Alabama is better. I tell
people all the time, though, the College Football Playoffs Committee's
job is not to find the best or the most deserving.

(11:20):
It's to find the best of the most deserving. So
where is that line for everybody? Now, you've got a
ven diagram that gets really weird because Alabama has a
couple of losses.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
And one of them looks awful.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
So what do you do with a couple of losses
where one of them is a bad loss right now?
Versus a team like let's say Notre Dame that's out here,
that has two losses by combined fourteen four points.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
That look like they're really good. Right.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
So that's where all of these these ven diagrams come
together in such a weird way.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
I never thought that I would wish for the BCS again,
but I just I cannot stand them hoping everything.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
You want a computer, you want to comput you want
robots to rule the world. Do you want robotoms? Don't you?

Speaker 3 (12:01):
I mean, it's fine. At least we would get things
more correct on a regular basis instead of having and
I listen, I harbor no ill will for the Arkansas
Athletic Director Hunter Eurochek, But like the whole purpose of
this show on Tuesday nights, where the rankings are announced,
where the selections, the most recent selections are made, as

(12:22):
they stack things as we get closer and closer to
the college football playoff, Hunter Eurrochek is not good television.
Nor did he cover himself in glory with his explanations
this week. Nor do I really care what any of
these people have to say when the argument is that
they are waiting losses more than actual wins, which makes
my head explode.

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to Another quasi elimination game for many would be Utah.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
Utah is trailing Kansas State at the half.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
So again another game nobody cares about, but has actionable consequence.
All right, coming up, speaking of something everybody cares about,
Lane Kiffen and why this entire situation has become a nightmare.
We'll tell you about it next these Buck Rising. I'm
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(15:06):
about that with the piano er me, that was pretty good,
right like you.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Timed it well too.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
Thank you so much that one.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
I didn't know. I thought I was gonna give married
Maack all the credit for that. I figured she was.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
She was the one that was going to cut it
off for me. So he's Buck rising up, Jason Fitz.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Look at this.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
We are calm, we are cool, we are collected. Buck
is an elitist. Not so elite though that he would
take a private jet all the way to Baton Rouge,
only then to have a private jet go to Gainesville
just so everybody tracking the sure you could say he
went to pick up a dog, or you could say
just so everybody tracking a private jet would know that
the tail number had landed in Gainesville, only to then

(15:43):
go back to Baton Rouge. We are talking about plane tracking,
which for any of you that haven't been keeping up
with the Lane Kiffins saga. Over the last few days,
there have been people in camouflage hidden in bushes with photography.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
We've got people walking off of the private plane in.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
Full covered costumes so that no but he can see
who's where all in the hunt for Lane Kiffin.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
And here's the thing, Buck, I get it, I get it.
I get that Ole Miss has been very good.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
I get that Old Miss has done incredible things. But
are we really doing all this for Lane Kiffen. Lane Kiffen,
whose reputation to me is once a year Ole Miss
is going to drop a game They shouldn't, right, once
a year Lane Kiffen and ole Miss is gonna do
just the dumb thing that takes them out of contention.
So far this year hasn't happened. They only have one
loss that probably headed to the college football Playoff. Everything

(16:31):
looks glorious, but this is like the one time we're
talking about the same coach Ben that previously was fired
from every major gig. He had had to go all
the way back to fi FAU to rebuild his reputation
to get to ole Miss and at ole Miss even
with great teams of transfers that we're supposed to contend
for national championships.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
They didn't quite get there.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
And now he's going to be the highest paid coach
and we are sending private jets wherever to whine and
dine him. The man that has no championship rings is
apparently worth this.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
I'm a little confused. Well, I guess what are you
confuse by? Like, who's better? Who's a better option right
now than Lane Kiffin's. It's about what you know. It's
like quarterback contracts, right, It's not is two a tongovilla?
I mean the two a tongovillo a contract is going
to age as probably the second worst contract given out
to a quarterback that way, the first, of course being

(17:19):
Deshaun Watson. But the larger point is that you're worth
what the market at the time says that you're worth.
And if Lane Kiffin is the most attractive coaching candidate
on the market in a marketplace that has many many
jobs vuying for his services, only three realistically that could
attain his services for the purposes of winning national championships
and resources and recruiting and nil interest. And you know,

(17:44):
I mean even if You've got to deal with this
muppet of a governor down there in Louisiana who's out
here talking about the way that they're going to change
the structure of contracts. Okay, tell him you're going to
get Lane Kiffin and that you need all the money,
and he's going to go to his his not secretary
of state. That's not the right Hambnet office, you know
what I mean, his his treasurer and say we need
more money for Lane Kiffin and the private jet. Make

(18:05):
it happen. I just it's not too hard that wrap
my head around the idea that Lane Kiffin is a
plus in many different forms that if you are frustrated
by his behavior as an old miss fan, that's completely acceptable,
especially if he doesn't coach the Egg Bowl. It's a
weird situation, for sure, where the athletic director is putting

(18:27):
out a statement saying, oh, me and Lane have had
very very productive conversations and we're gonna make announcements. Stay
tuned like it's some kind of radio teas. It's just nonsense,
the way that this whole thing is dragged out, and
it's made worse because Lane delights in it. He loves
being the bell of the ball. But if you have
a problem with Lane Kiffin's behavior, I would ask you,
didn't you know who you were dating the entire time?
Like this is who this person.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Is, Isn't he supposed to be changed?

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Now we're getting the Bible Versus and the hot yoga Like,
oh no.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
I'm not Lane from a few years ago.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
He's already toxic women I know in this city Nashville,
Tennessee that cite Bible Versus and do hot yoga? Come on?
That is that was?

Speaker 6 (19:09):
That was? That was.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
You got fun? But look it's probably that was rude.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
That was rude.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
The sweats like an obnoxious duck too. I was doing
hot yoga.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Like the best thing about the South is that they'll
tell you they love you, and then the minute you
walk out the room, they'll tell you exactly.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
How they feel.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
I respect the fact that Buck is at least sitting
in front of a mic when he expresses his opinion
about the the Bible Verse quoting hot yoga doing he
named him though, no, well, I mean you want me to,
I got a list that would be horrible. He's like
going Santa Claus here. It's like just lays out the
whole list. Checks it twice, Now.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
Check it with the trying. Okay, I'm here for this.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
This is one of.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
Those I'll name him.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
I'm not, I will very much say it.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
So I just feel like I hear you that we
know what we're getting with Lane, and I hear you
that he's the top com the top coach on the market.
So that's what everybody's gonna flock to. Like, you're worth
what you're worth. My question is wins above replacement. Like
we've had this conversation about athletes before, Like, at what
points do you look around and say, Okay, yeah, this
guy is really worth it. Sure, he's worth whatever the

(20:17):
market will pay. I have no problem with Lane Kiffin
getting whatever, reportedly ninety million dollars.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
I have no problem there. Don't get you no, no, no,
no no, Like I love.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
Lane, going go get your ninety million, Like, hey, if
somebody's gonna pay you ninety million to do that, then
hell yes, you go get you ninety minute. I want
everybody to be rich, fat and happy, like I love
that world, all right. My question is just for what,
Like every I'm saying this to everybody involved in this,
as I've said to you before Buck.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
The best thing.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
About Lane's gig is if he loses that one game
of year, he shouldn't lose. When he goes out to
Denny's with family afterwards, they say, get him next week, coach.
Everything's fine because ole Miss ain't gonna fire him for that.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
Right.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
If he has the exact same level of success at
LSU that he's had at ole Miss, he'll get fired.
And this is where everybody says, but LSU has so much.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
More for him. He did this at ole Miss.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
We're pretending like Olmoss didn't spend substantial amounts of money
last year in nil to go out and get a
defensive line specifically built to beat Georgia. Like they did that.
They spent the money that they needed to. But we're
pretending that ole Miss isn't at least competitive. Ole Miss
may not have the number one nil budget in the country,
but they have a top twenty nil budget in the country,
and they've got a coach there that is getting paid

(21:28):
top what he's the ninth highest paid coach in the
market right now. Whatever they're going to offer him in
this process, Like if he stays at ole Miss, he's
a legend now. He goes to LSU and has the
exact same record, he'll get fired. And by the way,
are we really sure that he's that much better than
any other.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
Coach that we've never heard of. I don't know. I mean,
I love the.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
Concept, but is he really better today than Brian Kelly
was when he took the LSU job.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
I know it is.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
Yes, I have no idea, FITZI, of course you do.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
He got left in the tarmac at USC.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
He was thirty two or whatever he was like however
old Lange Kiffin was when he got fired from the
Raiders and the USC job and the Tennessee thing, like
Lane Kiffin is a While he may not be that
different of a person, he may have reformed some areas
of his life. There is no question that the coaching
rehab that was his stint at FAU and working with

(22:21):
Nick Saban and learning from Nick Saban has helped this
person understand how to create a successful football program, a
successful football culture, even if at times he's going to
test that culture himself because he's flirting with another girl
at the bar.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
I E.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
LSU, Florida, Ole miss whatever that looks like.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
You say successful, I say that last year. Last year
was a failure for almost compared to what was expected
of Almoss.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
It's the most successful season in ole Miss hit. One
of the most successful season in ole Miss history was
a failure. So to your point about the stakes, Yes,
if he has a screw up, if he loses Tonentucky
the way that last year Old last year's Old Mis
team lost to Kentucky, and you're looking around me like
the hell, what kind of voodoo magic does Mark Stoops

(23:08):
have over Lane Kiffin? The Kentucky who's lifeless for the
vast majority of the year just shows up on that
one day and make Lane's Lane's life hell. They almost
did again this year, and Ole Miss was able to
outlast it. I do think, though, FITZI, that he will be.
He has the opportunity to be the best version of
himself at LSU more so than he does Old Miss.

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Ole Miss spends that money because they have Lane Kiffin,
because Lane Kiffin helps them believe that they have any
business being in the same conversation as a job as
Florida or Louisiana State. Never in my life has Old
Miss belonged at that table in any way, shape or form.
They did so because Lane Kiffen galvanized them. Now he's

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not gonna need to do that at LSU, But there
is no question. Think about the coaches that they've had
at LSU who have won national championships in the last
couple of the last couple of go rat.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
And they fired Less Miles and ed Orge w Natty.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
Don't want, they don't care. Who cares if you If
you win the championship and you get fired two years later, Okay,
you can do whatever you want for the rest of
your life. There's not a better job in America than
fired head coaching. Kiffin is younger than those guys were
at their respective points in time at LSU, But who
cares if you get the national championship. I'm fine with
getting fired if I win a national championship.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
My argument is that if less Miles and ed Orgeron
can win a Natty at LSU, then basically insert your
major coach here that's not fully incompetent. They should be
able to win a national championship. Fine, so you don't
need to pay that spend that kind of money to
get Lane Kiffin. And on top of it, if Lane's
gonna be the highest paid coach in the history of
the sport. We're gonna bend over backwards and making all

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new nil money then winning one Natty with all of
those like less Miles and ed Oorzroon didn't just have
the bagman walking out here outspending Alabama and they still like,
they still got fired right after they won national championships
because it wasn't good enough that they couldn't consistently beat Alabama?

Speaker 1 (24:59):
What proof?

Speaker 2 (25:00):
What concept do we have that Nick Saban or anybody
out there not named Ryan Day? Essentially, like, there are
three coaches in college football that have won a national
championship currently other than them, everybody else is just a
crap shoot. Everybody else is just again, Mars, the tire
thing is a crap shoot.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
You don't there is no dynasty, There is no dynastic
possibilities anymore in college football. The marketplace has if it's all.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
A crap shoot, And like, if it's all a crapshoot,
why spending this kind of money on link.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
If somebody else will somebody else will pay him. It's
not a good reason, but Florida will turned around right
as soon as Lane Kiffin says no, that's not enough money.
Lsu Florida will shove so much money down his beady
eyed throat that he won't know what to do with himself.
If they don't do it, somebody else will, which is fine.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Like somebody's dating your crazy X too, and like that's
on them.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
If they want to date your crazy X, let them
have her. Let them have it. Mart Mice gets caught
up on what's going on.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
We're gonna argue about Lane Kiffins some more in a second,
but first let's get a scoreboard update.

Speaker 5 (25:59):
You know, fits so you got you do have a point.
We're doing all this over Lane Kiffin, Like I get.
I like, like that's a lot I get. It's a
lot of argument over Lane Kiffy. He's supposed all these
hot yoga selfies. Anyway, we got some matchup in the
Big ten right now with the ranked teamh Oregon opening
it up a bit on USC right now, thirty five
to twenty one, Dante More just do it, beautiful touchdown

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pass two minutes and to the two minutes remaining in
the third quarter. There's one minute left in the game
of the day between ninth rank Notre Dame. I know
everybody is super happy. They subscribed to peacock to check
this one. Now seventy to nothing over Sheercus. Notre Dame
scored twenty one points before even touching the ball on offense,
So there you go. Two pick sixties in a punk return.

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Vanderbilt up forty five to ten on Kentucky and another
sec banger, Texas. So the seventeenth ranked Longhorns with a
forty five to twenty three lead over Arkansas. They've just
gonn outscored Arkansas twenty one to three in the first
and there in the second half, two lane opening up
on Temple twenty six to seven. Utah catching up here.

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They were down thirty one to twenty one at halftime.
Now thirty five to thirty one over Kansas State. Kansas
State's got the ball. They are five hundred ball club.
Utah is eight and two. Michigan with a thirty five
to thirteen lead over Maryland and the close game right
now fourteen a piece. The twenty third ranked Houston Cougar's
have come back. They were down fourteen nothing. This started

(27:26):
the fourth quarter against TCU earlier today. Again, the theme
of the day has been blowout to Ohio State, Texas
A and m Georgia all won by multiple touchdowns. Oklahoma
with an eleven point win over Missouri, seventeen to six,
Alabama fifty six points on the board. Eastern Illinois somehow
didn't manage to score. Miami with a thirty four to

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seventeen win over Virginia Tech. NFL News Joe Burrow will
not play Sunday against the Patriots. He did practice this week.
It's going to be Joe Flacco getting the start. Cam Heyward,
Darius Slay gonna play Sunday against Chicago. Aaron and Rogers
questionable with a left wrist fracture and a late landman
linebacker for the Rams. Signed a three year, twenty two

(28:08):
and a half million dollar contract fifteen and a half
million dollars guaranteed. He signed that started this year, one
year with basically no guaranteed money, and was done one
of the best pieces of that Rams defense thus far
this year. Back to you, guys, he's Buck Rising.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
I'm Jason fitzbucking Fits, hanging out with you on Fox
Sports Radio on.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
A Fox Sports Saturday. I got a lot going on.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
Obviously, we'll keep you updated on these scores if anything
else comes to Fruition as we keep our eyes on.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Some of the big outcomes.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
But look, I want to make it clear, because you're right,
Lane is the biggest name lank Giffin. We'll find out
on Saturday after the egg Bowl. According to the Ole
miss Ad, weirdest statement ever will address his future after
the egg Bowl, because that's going to stop the questions. Now.
Everybody will be like, oh, we got a statement, nothing
else to talk about here. I think there's a fine

(28:58):
line because you're right, home run higher for every LSU
fan because he's the biggest name on the block. I
just think part of what's happening right now is we're
talking about him like he's Kirby Smart or like he's
Ryan Day. And the difference that those two coaches have
is they have a national championship. And to me, all

(29:18):
the way back to my first radio gig in Nashville
when we were working together there at the time, I
remember arguing with my co host every Day Brand and Goal.
We argued about Les Miles being fired, and I kept saying, man,
you're firing a coach that's won whatever. I don't have
it in front of me eighty eight percent of his games.
Fired him because he just he won a national championship
and won like eighty eight percent of his games.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
But couldn't beat Alabama, so we're gonna fire him.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
And then they bring in coach Oh, and it's like, oh,
he wins a national championship and he's a beloved hero
to the city, like the place absolutely adored coach O.
And then right after that gets fired because man, this
result is not good enough, right, And there.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
Was also some stuff going on in the background of
that LSA program that probably necessitated his firing.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
I would think that's probably fair. Uh, but all of
it just stacks together to this.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
If the expectation is national championship or bust, and that's
I only think there's a few programs in the country
that genuinely walk into every year saying it is national
championship or bust. If that is my only proof of concept,
that will equal success. And you are going to make
Lin Kiven the highest paid coach in all of college football.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Man, he's got to win a national championship.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
And that's an area that we've literally never seen him throughout.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
We don't even know if he can win playoff games.
We have no idea.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
So like that's the part, Yes, we can look at
it and say, but look at what he's done with
ole Miss. I just think that that's a little bit
disrespectful to what ole Miss has given him, because he
certainly has had the money, the staff, the support, the infrastructure.
The nil money might not quite equal what LSU is
gonna do here, but we're talking about it like he
Oh my god, I can't believe he made Middle Tennessee

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State University successful.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
It's not that like.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
Ole Miss put in the money and the resources to
become a top notch program at this point, and I
honestly think he could. He has every bit the chance
to win a national championship at ole Miss that he
does at LSU.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
He also gets a lot more patience at ole Miss
than he would get at LSU.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
I I don't think that the only part of that
statement that Dya tribe that I disagree with is that
he has a better chance or as good a chance
to win a championship at ole Miss that he does
at LSU. That's just that that state is too chalk
full of in state talent that will take eight. I mean,
money matters, and obviously the Nile stuff is going to
factor in. So if you if you have a big

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enough bag to put in front of a high school
kid to say, please come play for my football program, talented,
five star, then yeah, that's gonna sway some opinions there,
but there are there is so much there organically that
ole Miss had to manufacture. To their credit, they did it, FITZI.
But that's the only part of your your statement that
I would disagree with.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
And they did do it, though, Buck like that.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
That's my pushback to you is that last year, if
he doesn't blow a game, they shouldn't blow. Ole Miss
is in the college football Playoff. This year, ole Miss
is in the college football Playoff. If you were in
the college football playoff and you're a top five or
six team, you got a shot at a national championship.
So right now, this year, today, this old Miss team
could win the national championship. So like he has proximity

(32:27):
to championships where he is, he's gonna have to go
to LSU and build it to be bigger than what
he's already built at ole Miss. And at ole Miss
he could have a championship. It's not ol missus full
as an institution that they lost to Kentucky last year.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Like that is not that.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
That's only I'm not saying that, And what I am
saying is that it took him a greater deal of
time and more a longer slower build at Ole Miss
than it will at LSU. He can drop in there
tomorrow and have everything that he took. You know, how
long has Lane been at ole Miss? For example, twenty twenty?

Speaker 1 (33:03):
He was hired there in twenty twenty.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
Okay, so yeah, we're five years into the Lang Kiffin
Ole Miss experience, and I think it took every bit
of those five years for him to get to the
point where he has that thing in a position to
be competing for a national championship. He can do it
tomorrow at LSU if he wants, even as LSU has
had the kind of season that they've had. And the
other part of this is I don't treat him in
the same or I don't hold him in the same

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esteem that I do Kirby Smart or Ryan Day. Those
are two different That is a different tier of coaching.
Just because his paycheck may reflect the fact that he
is compensated as much, if not more than those two
individuals that they will very soon thereafter get raises at
their respective institutions, as long as Ryan Day doesn't lose

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to Michigan this year, which would be you know, no
flight to Ohio State fans. But objectively, the funniest thing
that could happen in the college football season is this
Ohio State team, after not being tested once, loses to
Michigan next week. But the other part of this is
he's just the name that we're talking about right now.
Nobody would put him in the same Nobody sensible would

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hold him in the same esteem or consider him the
same caliber of coach as people who have actually accomplished
the task of winning a national championship. But could he
very well be the next at LSU, who's three previous
coaches prior to Brian Kelly won national championships. I very
much think he could be.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
He'll be competing against Kirby Smart in his own conference.
And that's the other like, I don't think LSU fans
have the patience and balance and understanding and all of
these other things that you have with it. And that's
that's where it just gets tricky, And all of this
gets really tricky, and what it means for this ole
miss team this year and the future of college football.

(34:47):
We'll talk about that next. He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason
Fitz getting filled in. It's bucking fits on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio radios. Fucking fit.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
It's on Fox Sports Radio. He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason
Fitz hanging out with you. College football action everywhere. Not
a lot of upsets going on right now. We're getting
into some of the NFL action, by the way, in
the next hour. Big day tomorrow. But Buck this Lane
Kiffing conversation. By the way, we got a tweet on
this one. We got a tweet from HP saying what

(35:21):
Kurt Signetti has done in Indiana more impressed him than
what Lane's done. An Ole miss Ole miss was built
to win last year but didn't should have. It was
four years to build, not five. So he's you know,
HP chiming in on this. I'll remind everybody, but you know,
Buck is an Indiana guy, So you know the Signetti
situation better than most. And I think, look, it's it's
a little bit apples and oranges. It's not that it's

(35:41):
not a fair comp it's just Signetti wasn't available, right,
I mean, Signetti's already locked up.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
So this is gonna make damn sure he wasn't available.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
No, I mean at the same time, nobody was offering
Signetti's seventeen point five or whatever. You know, I've heard
reports of up to twenty. So now they say it's
a ninety million dollar package plus incentives that LSU was offering.
That's a that's a gross I mean, that is just
ninety million dollars in Baton Rouge is just incredible.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
But like one thing that we've glossed over in this.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
Whole conversation, dude, is the concept that we're going to
get an announcement according to the ole Miss ad next Saturday.
If that announcement is he's taking another job, he has
to take that job.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
Then basically he's because.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
Of the way the recruiting calendar works, the transfer portal
calendar works, all of these things. He can't coach ole
Miss for a month and a half and miss out
on the opportunity to start building his program at LSU.
We talk all the time about the loyalty of athletes,
but the concept of a coach and he has to like,
I'm not blaming Lane given in this situation, but if

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you offer Lanes so much money he's got to leave,
and he walks away from his team before the playoffs.
That is such a awful look for college football.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
Yeah, it's it's a precedent thing, right, it's it's because
to your point, that is an ungodly amount of money. Anybody,
no matter what your profession, would take that amount of money,
no matter what they were I mean maybe not, no
matter what they were sacrificing to go and take that bag.
But if you know, as long as it's not like
an actual life or death situation, you would take that

(37:16):
money and you would run and run to the swamp
of Baton Rouge as fast as humanly possible. You wouldn't
have to run, of course, because you could afford to
buy your own private plane at that point in time
and not have to gaslight people with other university private
planes the way that Lane Kiffen is doing. Man, how
are old miss fans going to feel about this? Because
this is would you say that this is the first

(37:40):
of its kind of one of these situations, specifically in
the modern day of college football. I can't remember a
circumstance quite like this, given all the different factors and
variables that we've covered so far in the first hour
of the show. I think that Ole miss fans would
probably be a bit conflicted, like, he's not gonna be

(38:01):
able to go to Oxford, Mississippi and have a pleasant experience.
It's gonna be like the last time he went back
to Tennessee, where people are throwing mustard bottles and golf
balls in his head as he walks out of the stadium.
It's gonna be tough because one, he has been the
most successful coach and the best coach that they've had
in that program's history. And I would say that's inarguable

(38:22):
no matter how this ends up playing out down the stretch,
because they are going to be in the College Football Playoff,
whether he's coaching them to through the College Football Playoff
or it's you know, Joe Judge or something like that. Right,
But are fans going to be willing to just kind
of shrug that off and say, yeah, you know what,
we had a good run, right, All good things come

(38:43):
to an end eventually. We had a good run. It's
not gonna be a bad breakup, No love lost, Thank
you for your time here. We're looking to we're gonna
we're gonna try, and we're gonna try and move on
and on to bigger and better things, and maybe we'll
be able to find the one next time. Or is
it going to be hostile as holy hell in Oxford,

(39:03):
Mississippi and just anywhere where there are all old miss
fans with Lang Kiffin for eternity. I'm sure it's gonna
be pretty split.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
Whatever the worst breakup call conversation you've ever had is
in your life, magnify that by three billion. And that's
got because you're you're describing a fair and rational reaction
to a rational reaction to business. Right, ah, man, I
get it. Coach like ninety million dollars? Who could pass
up ninety million dollars?

Speaker 3 (39:28):
That's generational?

Speaker 1 (39:29):
Good luck?

Speaker 2 (39:30):
No, No, you're staying in the same conference, going somewhere else.
You're going to be coaching another team. And now we
sit on the precipice of the college football playoff and
through no faults of our own, as a fan base,
as an alumni is a fundraising unit, as a collective,
and as a group of players, you got nothing like
you got an interim coach, and hopefully you can make
something happen with it.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
But you want to.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
Talk about regret like every time a team has been
left out of the college football playoff conversation for no
fault of their own. Think about how Florida State fans
will always look at an undefeated season where they did
not make college football playoff because their quarterback got hurt,
and how that just hurts your heart forever. I don't
know how you ever rationalize. And then, frankly, every other

(40:10):
program in college football should be puckered up because this
now becomes a fear forever. What if we make the
college football playoff and our coach has to walk out
to take another gig. And again, I'm not fault link Iff,
and I'm faulting the college football calendar.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
But at some point now the college football.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
Calendar will have to be addressed because this is something
fans will never get over, and this is something the
young men on that team will never get over. They
fought all year and they get this buck.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
It's just tragic, not tragic based on well, I mean,
to some extent.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
We'll keep breaking it down. Next hour, more bucking fits.

Speaker 8 (40:46):
Next you're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
There's a changing of the guard happening right now on Sundays,
and it feels like we're so busy trying to figure
out how to make what we thought be real that
we're not actually talking about what we're seeing right now.
Because we came into this season certain that the Chiefs,
the Ravens, and the Bills would continue to be dominant

(41:13):
franchises working their way towards the Super Bowl. But in
the AFC we see right now it is not the
Chiefs and the Ravens and the Bills we need to
be talking about. No, it's the Patriots, It's the Colts.
It's the rest of the AFC that has stood up
and said take notice. He's Buck Rising on Jason Fitzbuck
and fits on Fox Sports Radio and Buck.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
It's just there are very few things in my.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
Life that I predict that I think I am so
confident in. I would bet everything I've ever made in
my entire life on this one thing. And I can
promise you this. I would bet every dollar I have
ever made in my entire career, every house that have
ever owned, every car I've ever owned, I'd bet it all.
I would put all in on if the Ravens, the Bills,

(41:59):
or the Chiefs are in the super Bowl or.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
In the playoffs.

Speaker 5 (42:01):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
In the playoffs, the Monday morning conversation on shows I get.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
Up of the first week of the playoffs will be,
you know, don't want to face this team because we've
seen what they can do in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
It's what we do all the time.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
And frankly, like I'm looking around right now saying, you
know who, I don't want to face the Indianapolis Colts.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Tomorrow we get Colts versus Chiefs, it will prove some
of this, but even in that moment, it won't.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
If the Chiefs get their asses kicked on Monday, it'll
be are the Chiefs dead?

Speaker 1 (42:28):
Can they still find a way to the playoffs, which,
by the way, they might be able to.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
If the Colts lose, it'll immediately be all the Cults
are frauds and the Chiefs are back.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
We are so ready to support the narratives we came.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
Into the season with that, we're not actually allowing the
football we see to create new ones.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
That's a well made point by you, because and it's
interesting that that would be the default, because I could
absolutely foresee a world where those kind of narratives start
to take shape, regardless of the outcome this coming weekend,
and I don't no FITZI I mean it feels like
people do it to just be what's the word obtuse

(43:07):
in a lot of years where they'll pick a team
not name the Chiefs to win the AFC, or pick
a team not name the Chiefs. The Broncos for example,
we're a popular pick to win the AFC West this year,
and I don't know that a majority of people who
are placing bets and futures and stuff like that actually
bet on the Broncos that way. I don't have access
to that kind of information or if it's out there,
I haven't seen it, but I do feel like I

(43:29):
heard more. Okay, this is the year that somebody finally
gets at least pass the Chiefs for that division, and
we've seen Denver, whether it's ugly or not, hold serve.
The Chargers are I mean, as fraud as any team,
especially given the consequence of their injuries right now and
how it's impacting their quarterback play. Poor justin Herbert against

(43:50):
the Jags that don't really get that much of a
rush on the quarterback so far this season? What did
he have eighty one passing yards last week against Jackson
bll this for Kansas City, they are always going to
be a popular topic of discussion because what I mean,
you've worked in this world, at least on a national level,

(44:12):
far more than I have. I feel that this is
a cycle that sports fans enjoy or just kind of
stuck in, whether they want to be or not. It's
just kind of a thing that we default to. We
like the plucky underdog story. We start to build that
situation up for that. A couple of years ago, for us,
for the country, for the football consuming world, it was

(44:32):
the Kansas City Chiefs. All right, we're tired of Tom Brady,
We're tired of the Patriots. All right, Brady's going to Tampa.
Let him win a super Bowl there. But Lee, I mean,
Brady's likable all of the sudden. Brady's a good example
of that too, right we lebron where he goes from
Cleveland and everybody loves him, and then he can't win it.
So he goes to Miami and everybody hates him, and
then he goes back to Cleveland. He wins one for Cleveland,
everybody loves him again, and now people hate him again.

(44:53):
Because whatever I feel like, the Chiefs are currently in
the midst of that cycle where enough football fans are
tired of them want to see the great ones fall
short because they're tired of seeing their team come up short.
Buffalo Bills fans against a team like Kansas City, even
though at at least this year, the indicators would point
to Buffalo having a better chance to win the Super

(45:14):
Bowl based on some metrics that we've seen these two
teams display throughout the course of the season. I feel
like the Chiefs are just in that life cycle. You
have to win at a commensurate level to have a
seat at that table. The Chiefs have created this opportunity,
this dialogue one way or the other around them. I
don't think it's unfair to anybody because they are the

(45:35):
big dog, right even though they're not the defending Super
Bowl champion, we are going to talk about them as if,
almost as if they are, even though the last time
we saw them in a Super Bowl they got their
asses whipped. So I think that this is something It's
almost like Pro Bowl voting, where you don't necessarily see
guys go to the Pro Bowl in the season that
they deserve it, but once they have the name recognition,
they end up in the Pro Bowl maybe the next

(45:55):
year or a couple of years after the fact, just
because they have that brand equity. I feel like that's
kind of what we're going through. In terms of the Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
The thing for me is, I can't look. I have
never hidden my fandom. I've got a Raider somewhere right
behind me, so as we do this show, so I
understand a lot of times when I say negative things
about the Chiefs, people make it I'm a Chief sat
I'm actually the opposite. The Chiefs dynasty has made it
really easy for me to accept just how bad the
Raiders have been for most of the last.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
Decade because I can look at it and say, hey,
we weren't going to beat the Chiefs anyway. That's fine.
It is what it is like. It's fine. The Chiefs
are on a run. My not issue, but my thought process.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
Over the last week, we watched the Broncos that you
just mentioned. I'm not sure the Broncos offense is right.
I'm not sure bo Nicks is great, but the Broncos
beat the Chiefs. And in fact, the Broncos at eight
and two, have two losses. One was a one point
weird loss to the Colts, and one was a weird
field goal loss to the Chargers. The Broncos are literally
two plays away from being undefeated, and they just beat

(46:55):
the Chiefs. On Thursday Night Football, we watched the Bills
run around and look like absolute imbeciles on a football
field against the Texans defense that was just men amongst boys,
and the conversation the next day was all about how
broken the Bills are and not about the fact that wait,
maybe the Texans, who by the way, had been winning
with Davis Mills as their quarterback.

Speaker 3 (47:16):
Maybe Texans, it's crazy, but this.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
Defense is so good and I'm looking at it and saying, wow, Finally,
like finally, the Chiefs lack of dependable offense seems like
it's kicking their butt a little.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
Bit this year.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Finally, the fact that there isn't a wide receiver in
Buffalo that anybody can trust is kicking their butt a
little bit this year.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
The Ravens.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
Part of that's injury, I get it, But the Ravens
this year have not been the same version of the
Baltimore Ravens that we've seen all year. I'm willing to
like loudly say the AFC Championship Game I predicted coming
into the season was Ravens versus Chiefs, and my logic
on that was two best teams in the AFC. Sorry
to our buddy Sean, that's a lifelong die hard Bills fan.
My logic was the two best teams in the AFC.

(47:57):
And also, Mahomes has been to the AFC CHAMPI every
single year that he's been a starting quarterback in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
This made sense to me.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
It now like, for the sake of my prediction, I'd
love to be right, but for the sake of what
we do. When you watch a lot of football, you
have to step back at some point and say, my god,
the Colts, the efficiency of the Colts offense, the ability
of the Colts to run the football behind that offensive line,
the weapons that they have all across the board. The
defense is playing far better than I think most of

(48:26):
us expected over the course of this year. The Patriots
way ahead of schedule. And this is where everybody says, well,
we haven't seen Drake may do.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
It in the playoffs. You're right, we haven't.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
We haven't absolutely, But today, right now, who do you
believe is a better team? And my answer is that
we've seen it of late. I believe today the Colts
are flat out better than the Bills, the Ravens, and
the Chiefs. I believe right now that the Broncos are actually,
because of that defense, better than those three teams as well.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
And I think even though I didn't think.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
The Patriots were going to be as good as fast
as they are right now, I trust the Patriots more,
and then I trust those three teams too. So like
it just feels like the changing of the guard is happening,
and we're not letting it happen.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
Yeah, I mean, there's always going to be a reticence,
right because you know, people struggle with change no matter
what it is. You don't want to change the kind
of orange juice brand that you've drank your entire life
because it's something different, And why would I change? I
like this brand, even though the other brand when you might,
when you might try it, eventually, you're like, oh, this
is delightful. I don't It turns out I don't like
pulp in my orange juice. What have I been doing

(49:28):
my entire life? Why have I been existing this way?
Just because you're stubborn and it's easier to do the
thing that you've known for the vast majority of your
life than it is. To actually take a stand seems silly,
but to do something different, which is what Indianapolis is doing.
And it's funny that we're kind of cyclical at least
with the franchises, right, because if you told me twenty

(49:50):
years ago that it was the Patriots and the Cults
at the top of the AFC, you would have said, yeah,
Tom Brady and Peyton Manning. Now it's Daniel Jones and
Drake May Baby. All things are become new again eventually
after being old for a period of time. So I
think a lot of people it's just it's such, it's
such nobody nobody more deserving, right than Patriots fans. They've
just suffered so much.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
As dude, I'm in Connecticut in the thick of it,
and let me tell you something, man, it is obnoxious.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
It is the worst.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
When Patriots fan like I actually have friends that are
Patriots fans that have looked at me and said, we
finally got a quarterback again. Like you can't use the
word finally when it's only like you might have had
Mack Jones, you just screwed him up. I've seen one
decent quarterback in my maybe two I'll give you.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
I've get Rich Cannon very good.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
I've seen Rich Cannon and Derek Carr at my lifetime,
the only two capable quarterbacks I've seen in my lifetime
as a Raiders fan. And I got Patriots fan saying, oh,
we finally got a quarterback again.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
Oh WHOA? Is me the angst of a Patriots fan?

Speaker 3 (50:53):
Yeah? I don't think I told you this. The Patriots
for people who don't know what me and Fitsy do
on a regular basis beyond just this show. On Saturdays,
I covered the Tennessee Titans. I live in Nashville, I've
been This is my tenth season covering the team. It's
a suffering, but it's my tenth season covering the team.
And one of the teams that did play in Nashville
this year is the New England Patriots, which of course
made for interesting talk radio fodder here in town with

(51:17):
Mike Rabel coming back to town and Mike Greece, who
is a legend, an absolute legend, one of the genuinely
best human beings you will find anywhere in sports media, writing, reporting, talking,
whatever the case may be. On television, he is the
ESPN Patriots reporter, and he's a very lovely man, comes
up to me in the press box and was just
kind of like almost kind of like comforting me for

(51:39):
how bad the Titan season is. And I love Mike
to death, but the way he looked at me when
he said, yeah, you know, I understand, I get it.
These last couple of years have been tough in New
England too, and I just wanted to be like, Mike,
come on, Bud, like you can't. You can't, with a
straight face actually say that to me. But of course
I didn't because he was being genuine and I think
he actually meant.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
It that no, you have full permission.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
And then just to say no, no, sure no, shocked
my finger at him like a dog.

Speaker 3 (52:08):
No.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
His heart's in the right place. I get it, I
know it is.

Speaker 3 (52:16):
That's why I didn't get like, you know, that's why
I didn't like come after him a little bit. But
it's just like it took every ounce of astraight I
had in that press box and not laugh out loud.
The thing with Indy, I would bet them to cover
at Kansas City if I was allowed to bet on
NFL games. I'm an NFL reporter, So I don't, but
they're what three and a half point underdogs in case

(52:37):
I'm I'm kind of confused by that line, because Finzi,
it's not it's not just that the offense for Kansas
City is finally catching up to them the way that
we've talked about for the last couple of years. What's
kept them afloat these last couple of years, while that
offense has kind of languished and ebbed and flowed in
different moments, it's been that they've had one of the
best defenses in football with Steve Spagnolo this year. They're

(52:58):
not a bad defense by any stretch of the imagination,
but they're definitely bottom half of the league in terms
of their efficiency. They're not a good defense this season
on third down, which are two very different things for
the Chiefs to have to work up against, and you're
seeing the combination of those two things. The confluence of
those two things create a five hundred team that could

(53:19):
be below five hundred if Indianapolis does what you absolutely
expect them to do now, Spags is probably gonna blitz
the holy hell out of Daniel Jones, and Daniel Jones
is not totally healthy. They're coming off of buy the
Colts are right now. But he's listed on the injury
report with a calf. It's technically, according to the reporting
in Indianapolis, a fibula injury. It's just they have to
like designate a muscle as opposed to as opposed to

(53:40):
saying what specific bone with him is bothering him. So
I don't know if that's going to go well, But
I think if the Colts are as balanced as they
have been and Daniel Jones doesn't completely flame out, I
would take the Colts plus three and a half.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
I think the Colts win this game outright.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
I think Jonathan Taylor has a big game, and I
think Indianapolis makes a statement that this is the new AFC.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
And I think through all of that.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
When the there's still plenty of schedule left for the Chiefs,
they're gonna go on a run. I still think the
Chiefs are gonna find their way to the playoffs. And
then I still think that the absolute idiotic topic the
first Monday of playoff week is gonna be oh.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
How scared should we be? O'patrick Mahomes, Like.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
The legend of Patrick Mahomes, the legend of the Kansas
City Chiefs this year is better than the actual team.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
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Speaker 3 (54:28):
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Speaker 1 (54:29):
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Speaker 2 (54:34):
Again, just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts.
You'll find today's full show posted right after we get
off the air. Some things in the NFL never changed.
The Colts are good, the Patriots are good. The Browns
and the Raiders suck like life is just a cycle.
It's just a cycle of the same over.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
And over and over again.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
For all that credit. Who deserves the most credit of
any of the coaches in the NFL this year? Who
should be the coach of the year.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
We'll talk to you.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
It's a simple question, complicated answer. We'll try next. Bucking
fits on Fox Sports Radio. But Gonia, by the way,
a really good movie. I strongly recommend it.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
They could call me.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
I have some notes about maybe the last fifteen minutes,
but a really good movie. Also Running Man, it was fine,
saw Running Man, it was fine. AMC right now? With
the holiday Coke zero vanilla swirl though. That's a delight.
It's like a vanilla holiday, creamy vanilla Coke zero swirl thing.
What you don't like like a vanilla float? Come on,
it's like a it's like a it's like a coke

(55:31):
zero float?

Speaker 3 (55:32):
What is it?

Speaker 1 (55:32):
How can you make that face towards a coke zero float?
That's what it tastes like.

Speaker 3 (55:36):
Because I've been a little bit hungover all day to day.
Uh and the idea of that just absolutely turned my
stomach upside down, Like that, so.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
You're better than us?

Speaker 3 (55:46):
Yeah, yes, I mean I do. Okay, that's yes, famously
I do.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
I was. I will admit though, that that's a fine.
I was surprised, like.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
Wait, that's the biggest setup I've ever had, of course.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
I mean like, look, I'm just saying.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
Buck Rising came out of the womb, looked at the
doctor and said I've seen better, Like there's just no
doubt about it, like this, unimpressed, unimpressed Buck Rising, I was.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
I was a little shook it though, like I.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
Want to see Running Man the other night right, And
I was like, all right, this is gonna be a
good movie. It's a big popular movie right now. I
remember the original from my childhood vaguely. I don't think
I saw, but I remember what the you know. So
I was all excited. I'd look in the app and
then I had no idea I was going on a
Thursday night. I had no idea that it might have
been a Wednesday. And I don't remember, but like, I'm
going on and there was a preview of Wicked, and

(56:32):
I had no idea that Wicked Too was taking over
the entire theater. So running Man's like a week old,
And all of a sudden, I was in one of
the theaters, inside a theater that only has like, I
don't know, twenty seats max, Like all the seats were full,
but there were only like twenty of us in there
because everybody else showed up in full regalia for like
costumes and makeup, and people singing in the lobby for

(56:52):
Wicked Too, which only makes me like I could just
only imagine Buck Rising singing along with all the music
theater kids that Wicked.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
I actually loved Wicked. The woman I was dating at
the time forced me to go and any any movie
over over two hours, I'm gonna I'm likely gonna start
off with no, I don't care what it's about. I
don't care how good it is. I don't care who
the cast is. It's just which is crazy because I'll binge,
you know, six hours of Game of Thrones on a
day when when Game of Thrones was popular, But I

(57:21):
won't sit through a two hour movie in a theater.
I loved Wicked. It was really really good. I don't
know that. I don't know that I would go on
a solo venture right now to see. I don't know
what the title of Wicked two is other than it
is second iteration or part two of Wicked as as

(57:42):
this thing continues to grow and grow and grow. But
I get it. I thoroughly enjoyed it. They crushed it.
So if if two is as good, if not better,
than one, I would I would absolutely hear the argument.
You may even hear me humming a tune, maybe not
full full throat singing along.

Speaker 9 (57:58):
Off your mic by the way, clean off.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
If you ever do that in this airways.

Speaker 3 (58:05):
If I started singing the Wicked sounds, you would.

Speaker 5 (58:07):
Get shut off immediately.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
Look, okay, so here's the thing. Number one. I went
to see Wicked.

Speaker 3 (58:14):
We want to know what to do. I want to
take the rest of the show off. I'll just start
humming Wicked slowly into the microphone, and Mary'll send me
home for the dog.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
I had no expectations.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
I didn't really like I was a bit familiar with it,
but even as a kid that grew up around a
lot of music theater, it was a little bit after
that chapter for me, so like, I just never I'd
never heard the soundtrack to it. I agree with you, Buck,
I loved it. I was a bit let's say, I'm
trying to say this politely. There's no nice way to
say it in the beginning. I'm glad I didn't see

(58:42):
it in the first few weeks because so many music
theater kids were going and social media was all abuzz
about like don't stop.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
Me from singing in the theater.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
And I just want to remind most of you that
the reason that you're in the theater and not on
the stage is because you weren't good enough to cut it.
So I don't want to pay my money to go
hear you in the crowds sing along. I'm paying my
money to hear Ariana Grande sing it. See the difference here,
I want to hear her sing. I don't want to
hear you sing. So I just I think we need

(59:10):
as are as a show like we could go and
we could essentially be the Simon Cowell, like the American
idol that theaters need over the course of opening weekend
of Wicked.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
Like Mary mc could just whistle buck. You could just say.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
Stop, and then I'll just look disapprovingly and say, hey, hey, hey,
you you you in the front row.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
You're not good. Shut up, like somebody.

Speaker 3 (59:28):
Needs to help people do something else.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
You could take a woul.

Speaker 3 (59:32):
Yeah, we would buy you a whistle like you have
on the show you know that.

Speaker 5 (59:36):
Michael Jackson movie.

Speaker 9 (59:37):
Though I'm sorry, guys, I'm gonna be singing in and
hollering wants that. No, no, sorry, no, well actually Jackson movie,
you have to your your You're very talented.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
I would I would enjoy that, okay, But at the
same time, like as I've said a million times, this
is like what makes me a terrible friend.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
Sometimes my friends and I get this.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
My friends that have kids that are part of arts
and entertainment will then say, oh my god, you're gonna
come to our kids recital, right, And this is where
like I'm not good at that. I'm not because I
didn't grow up with like. My parents were not the
type to hold their tongue right. So my mom would
walk in the room and frequently tell me that if
that was the best I could play that day, I
should put it away.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
She didn't want to hear it anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
I think that there's we're working through therapy here.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
I just think we need more honest parents, Like honest
coaches will tell your kids, Hey, your kid can't hack,
your kid can't play, your kid's not going to be
a starting quarterback in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
I want to be. You know, this is a new service.
Hire me, parents.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
I will come into the living room, I will listen
to your child perform, and then I will tell them
you are not talented enough.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
You need to study for the SATs and become a doctor.
We need more of that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
Like there are gonna be people in the Michael Jackson
movie singing that simply shouldn't sing.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
And if your tone.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
Deaf, I don't want to listen to If you're not
particularly great, I don't want to listen to you. If
you are not worth paying money to hear sing on
a stage, don't ruin my movie.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
I think it's simple.

Speaker 6 (01:01:03):
Do you need a hush?

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
Music is delightful? Dude? That that trauma dumping Yo feels good? Man, No, no,
it feels good. I'm not dumb trauma. I'm good with that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
I am good. My trauma made me who I am.
I don't need to dump it. I feel good. We
need more. We need more buck Rising parents in the world,
like not the Buff's a parent. We need more parents
who are gonna just walk in and say hey, hey, hey,
you not you fat Jesus.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
Just try it again like we are.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
I would absolutely refer to a kid as fat Jesus.
I could not. I don't know how to talk to
kids like this is why I'm convinced I'm not going
to be a parent for a number of different reasons.
But like, children make me deeply uncomfortable. So I start
to talk to them like I would talk to a
normal adult, and it's just not a good way to converse.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
It's actually the better way for them. They learn skills
very well. Actually from that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
Nobody ever coddled me as a kid, and I think
that actually really helped me. Buck You, Maybe this is
just when you find out about the eighteen kids you
have running around Nashville.

Speaker 5 (01:01:56):
You're gonna be a great dad.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
Never catch me.

Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
Also, to answer your question, yes, I trust the Patriots.
Go ahead, Martin.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
We'll recognize their voices.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
Though they'll all be angry, angry little box all over Nashville.

Speaker 5 (01:02:11):
Is that deep after mom leaves the hot yoga studio
on the way home, you.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
Think the studio got hot?

Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
All right?

Speaker 5 (01:02:20):
Well, that's about as hot as the college football actions
has been today now, a lot of close games, it's
been quiet.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
We're looking at U.

Speaker 5 (01:02:28):
There is an interesting brewing up Severn now three minutes
outhering and fourth quarter Kansas State five and five on
the year, forty seven to thirty seven, the lead over
twelfth range to Utah. Utah does have the ball over
there in the red zone. That's been a back and
forth matchup Utah getting a safety in a fourth quarter.
Fourth quarter's all about done here.

Speaker 3 (01:02:47):
But the finals with the.

Speaker 5 (01:02:48):
Clock with Oregon and USC the Ducks with a forty
two to twenty seven will be win over the fifteenth
rank Trojans. Earlier today we saw a big wins for Ohio.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
State, Georgia.

Speaker 5 (01:03:01):
Basically everybody who played today won in a massive won
by like forty five points, including Texas A and M
who beat Sanford forty eight to nothing. Notre Dame had
seventy points. They had quick math forty nine at the half.
So of course that was against Syracuse. Thanks for coming
out Alabama with a fifty six point win. Miami beats
Virginia Tech thirty four to seventeen, Vanderbilt thir forty five

(01:03:24):
to seventeen over at Kentucky. We did have one close
one in the Big Ten Northwestern of Minnesota thirty eight
to thirty five, the Northwestern Wildcats getting the win there
forty five to twenty. Maryland Michigan Beach, Maryland, with Brycenderwood
having two touchdowns there in that matchup. In NFL news,
I'm sorry Texas beat Arkansas fifty two to thirty seven,

(01:03:45):
and NFL news now we'll see the Joe Burrow will
not play Sunday against the Patriots. He did practice this week,
but it's going to be Joe Flacco. Steelers will have
Cam Hayward and Darius Lay Sunday against the Bears. Aaron
Rodgers question with that small left wrist fracture, which to
me feels like something that's only small to the people
who are talking about it, not the person whose risk

(01:04:07):
is actually fractured. I don't know what you guys think
about that, but it's one of those that like, how
that that's gotta be something bigger than just a slight fracture.
Feels like a minor gunshot wound. Like I'm hurt back
to you, guys.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
Hairline fracture in my leg. It took months months to
heal that thing. I don't know, like a small wrist fracture.
It sounds all fractures seem like big s fractures. Utah
just scored, by the way, So two forty seven to
go in the game. The extra point is up and
it is good. It is now forty four to forty seven.
Two forty seven to go in the game. They are
down by three. Utah has all three timeouts and the

(01:04:44):
two minute stoppage whatever we want to call that, since
we're not allowed to call it the two minute warning.
They have that as well left at their disposal. So
plenty of time left in this very weird Utah game.
They were getting their asses kicked and then all of
a sudden they were up by double digits and then
they were down by double t and now it's a
three point game. I don't know what to make of
this weird, weird football game, but reminder that a lot

(01:05:06):
on the line, Utah winning the BYU loss would impact
a Big Twelve. So all of this is there's more
drama than usual on a Utah Kansas State game book.
So not a lot of analysis here, just the fact
is this is a weird wild ending to what has
been a weird wild season in the Big Twelve.

Speaker 3 (01:05:27):
Yeah, we will see if Utah is able to stave
off this forty seven point performance that Kansas State has
put on them at home. It's very uncharacteristic of a
Kyle Whittingham defense, certainly, but it's the closest thing to
a big college football we were just talking. I don't know,
but during a break fitsie. We have done so much

(01:05:49):
college football here these last few weeks, and obviously we're
right in the middle of the college football slate, so
it would be natural for us to react. And there's
been crazy upsets all over the place. And we'll see
what happens with Georgia Tech and pitt Right now, pit
leading seven to nothing and the water of the game
advances to the ACC Championship game, so potentially we will
have an interesting result at least to talk through the

(01:06:11):
majority of the first half here with you. But we
haven't had anything really crazy in the world of college
football today, which is almost get a chance to catch
your breath. It's the second last week of the regular season.
You're just like, Okay, we can start to ease this
thing up a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
Yeah, we finally get to breathe on this. It should
be crazy tomorrow.

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iHeart app. We were talking earlier about exceeding expectations into
changing in the guard because we are in a season
where it feels like certainly the Colts, the Broncos and

(01:06:59):
the Parets deserve far more credit for being the cream
of the crop in the AFC. That being said, if
you had a vote on it today, and forgive me
if you do, and I'm not aware Coach of the
year Rabel stichen other like, where are you on that
conversation because we're we're this deep into the season and
we've had so many surprises. But also I can make
an argument that Nick Sirianni managing to keep whatever this

(01:07:20):
drama is under check if Philly deserves some considerate Like
I don't, I genuinely don't know who should be the
front runner for Coach of the Year.

Speaker 3 (01:07:29):
Most sportsbooks have Rabel, and that makes sense. Mike is
as somebody who covered him for six years here in
Tennessee and now seeing him go on to have success,
he just looks, you know, he looks like he is
where he belongs in New England. And we'll see if
the magic doesn't wane at some point in time. If
they continue to win and they he has more pressure

(01:07:51):
on him to continue to construct a roster that they
wouldn't allow him to have full control over here in Tennessee.
To their detriment, Mike's going to be a pop vote.
He's a very popular guy. Beyond the fact that they're
just winning. He seems to be a bigger star in
the middle of all this than his MVP candidate, a quarterback,
and rightfully so, he's almost like a you know, he's

(01:08:11):
like a football war hero going home for the first
time and then he's being celebrated that way. And he's
charismatic and dynamic, and also he's a good coach. He
has won this award before in twenty twenty one with
Tennessee there were a number one overall seed. They had
no business doing it. Derrick Henry broke his foot halfway
through the season, didn't come back into the playoffs, and
they absolutely imploded at home against Joe Burrow and the

(01:08:34):
Cincinnati Bengals because Ryan Tannehill threw three interceptions in that game,
one of the most traumatic sporting events I think the
city of Nashville has ever witnessed. But Mike should not
be the Coach of the Year this year if we're
to keep it within the spirit of the award. The
last time that he won it. The last time that
he won it, the Titans, I believe broke the record
for a number of players that dressed on a game

(01:08:56):
day throughout the course of a regular season because they're
in were everywhere. It was Julio Jones, it was Aj Brown,
it was Derrick Henry, it was guys on defense. They
were a mash unit out there, starting Deonta Foreman, Dontrell Hilliard,
buster screen dudes that may have had a moment in
the league elsewhere, but we're basically on the couch six
weeks before and now all of a sudden, the Titans

(01:09:18):
were bringing them in and winning games on the road
and at home. It was a ridiculous thing that they
were able to do. Stikeen Is would be deserving. Certainly,
he's done an excellent job, and Daniel Jones benefits from
everything that's there, and Stichen is doing a great job
with him and with all those other pieces in parts.
But they are the healthiest team in football as far

(01:09:39):
as I can tell. I haven't looked at the games
lost due to injury metric, which people tend to cite
so far this season, but I would have to imagine
the culture at the bottom of the list there because
they have basically had all of their pieces on offense
the whole way through and are coming off a bye week.
It should be Kyle Shanahan. Kyle Shanahan has the forty
nine ers, seven and four. That is ridiculous what they

(01:10:01):
are doing. They're playing Monday Night football, hosting the Panthers,
who are also a winning football team at this point
in time. It should be a fun game. Niners are
favored by I think a touchdown and a half. Last
I looked, Kyle Shanahan has one of the most efficient
offenses in the sport this year, but he hasn't been
starting Brock Perdy for the vast majority of it. It's
been Mac Jones. How many games did George Kittle miss?

(01:10:23):
Four or five throughout the course the season. McCaffrey's not
having great success on the ground, but they are finding
ways to make him one of the leading receiver targets
in all of football because they are so dynamic as
an offense. Pearsall hasn't played. I don't know if you
saw Diana Rossini's reporting on Brandon Ayuk last night, but
apparently they just signed him to that fat contract this

(01:10:44):
offseason and now he's not going to play a game
for them. At some point they are expected to move
on from Brandon Ayuk, which is again just a ridiculous story.
Kyle Shanahan is a wizard, an absolute wizard, and he
by the spirit of this award, and with under standing,
what do we have six more weeks of football yet
to be played, that dude should be the front runner

(01:11:06):
for all of the reasons that I just laid out,
and he still has that team competing at the highest level.

Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
Yeah, and look, I think Coach of the Year is
such a narrative award, and by that I mean so
often it is somebody where we think, Okay, their team
either was going to suck, should suck, could have sucked,
and then didn't, right, Like, that's the big thing to it.
So part of the reason I think stikeen it kind
of falls out of this is because Stich and frankly

(01:11:32):
takes over, like this is a team for the culture.
Over the last two years, it's basically a five hundred
football team with bad quarterbacks. Now they have a good quarterback.
All of a sudden, they are a very good football team.
So you know, that's a big, big, big difference. So
you know, I think part of the reason Vrabel is
such a favorite, if we're being honest, is just because
the concept was the Patriots suck and now they don't.

Speaker 1 (01:11:52):
I would challenge that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
Remember, coming into this year, Vegas said that they would
be a favorite in eleven of their games. That was
before a single play had happened. Vegas said that they
were going to be the favorite eleven times. So that
tells you how easy the schedule is. That tells you
what the expectation really was, at least from Las Vegas.
They don't build those casinos for nothing, so I think
that has to be weighed into how we view Coach

(01:12:16):
of the Year. I also, man, I struggle to figure
out how much value Coach of the Year really has
because Shane Steike has been Coach of the Year twice.
But it does say something about your team when you
can turn around and find a way to be coach
of the Year. So I like your Shanahan. I mean,
we forget that it's been a backup quarterback. We may
end up saying the same thing by the end of

(01:12:37):
the year about the Texans. I would keep a sneaky
eye under Miko. I mean, if the Texans, if the
Texans and Davis Mills can continue, CJ should come back
at some point from this concussion. We all anticipate that,
but the fact is they've won some games with their
backup quarterback. I like that call by you. When you've
been decimated by injuries, your world is different. A quick
update here. Utah has gotten the ball back. They've gotten

(01:12:58):
the ball back, they have the ball, they will have
the opportunity to tie the game. We will get you
updated on what's happening and what could be the wildest
ending of the day in college football. Plus coming up
next time for the single greatest game show in the
history of all of sports talk radio.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
Would you rather coming at you next? Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
We got third and goal right now as we speak,
Utah taking on and they are in for a touchdown.
Utah takes the lead over Kansas State fifty to forty.

Speaker 1 (01:13:30):
Seven, pending the extra point.

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
Dan Pierre with a one yard touchdown fifty six seconds
to go, fifty six seconds to go. In this we
are pending a huge extra point difference between a field
goal being able to tie it or needing a touchdown
to win it. But there are fifty six seconds left.
In a Utah win, that would mean that the BYU
game has tremendous consequence for the Big twelve Championship.

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
So wild night.

Speaker 2 (01:13:54):
He's Buck rising up. Jason Fitzbuckin fits on Fox Sports Radio.
First first to weird outcome of the day, first traumatic outcome,
I should say, although, keep an eye on an Upsettler.
Pittsburgh is up on Georgia Tech early in that game,
so we'll see before we get to the single greatest
game show in history. I figure we'll see if this
extra point goes up, so we will keep you updated
to kick the snap.

Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
It's good.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
We got fifty one forty seven defensive struggle here youtah
up on Kansas State, fifty four seconds to go on
this one, so we'll keep you updating on if there's
any additional chaos in the meantime. Buck, are you ready
for this? Are you ready for this moment? It is
time for the single greatest game show in the history
of sports Ark Radio.

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
It is time for wood you.

Speaker 3 (01:14:38):
Rather, I don't think we did that well.

Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
No, that wasn't bad.

Speaker 4 (01:14:42):
Yeah, once again, not not bad, guys, but I just
think like the first word wasn't quite there, and then
you kind of like use that to sort of synchronize yourselves.

Speaker 3 (01:14:50):
So as long as there's no second I have to
go like a full second ahead of him. Because of
this delay, I'm so confused.

Speaker 4 (01:14:55):
As long as you start jumping in a full second ahead,
then I think we should be golden for next time.

Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
You know.

Speaker 9 (01:15:00):
I'll give you this, guys, I really do mind you. You
guys have already done it before you guys, just.

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
You have to like we've seen it. We have proof
of content. Better to be lucky than good, y'all, better
to be lucky good.

Speaker 8 (01:15:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
Yeah, Ian's gonna give us a statement.

Speaker 2 (01:15:15):
We'll decide would we rather, and we'll go through this
and say, OK, I will say, Ian, we missed you
last week.

Speaker 1 (01:15:20):
Shay Shane did a great job. Shae always does a
great job. Shake gets us weird? Would you rather so?

Speaker 2 (01:15:25):
Like I I like, there's a lot of faith in
you right now, Ian to come through big with some
would you rather that are not going to be that?
I don't want any weird feet things. And then let's
just try and keep the whole room comfortable.

Speaker 1 (01:15:36):
Can you do this for us?

Speaker 6 (01:15:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:15:37):
Yeah, I mean we all know that Shae is a
big fan of feet things, so we can just yeah, he's.

Speaker 1 (01:15:42):
The rest of the Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (01:15:44):
No. I did not know that now the country knows
that too. The life.

Speaker 1 (01:15:50):
Let's spind the wheel before we all get fired. All right, yeah,
so let's start with this one.

Speaker 4 (01:15:58):
Would you rather have the ability to eff lessly run
at one hundred miles per hour or fly at ten
miles per hour?

Speaker 3 (01:16:05):
Oh, effortlessly run at one hundred miles an hour or fly.
I'd probably fly just the convenience of flight ten miles
an hour. You're going to the snail's pace. But I'm
not moving at ten miles an hour in my normal
life anyway, So why not take the opportunity to expedite
the process slightly?

Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
Okay, so I'm gonna play shoes on the other foot
game here. Right, let's just imagine a scenario. Buck Rising
and I are that party together. We're at a CMA
after party. Right, we just watched and walk the red carpet.
We're dressed to the nines, we're feeling good about ourselves.
And I stand out the room and I'm like, thanks
to your brother, I'm in yes. So you know, I
look at Buck, I look at the room. I'm like, hey,

(01:16:46):
I got this party trick?

Speaker 1 (01:16:47):
Oh what is it? I can run one hundred miles
an hour? So all of a sudden, I do that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
The whole room would erupt at me running one hundred
miles an hour.

Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
Buck would even be impressed.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
If I say I can fly, and I get up
and I fly ten miles an hour, Buck would immediately
make fun of me for not being able to fly faster.
I want to be able to run by the way
Utah can run, by the way. They just picked off
Kansas State. This game is over, Utah will survive. So yeah,
I don't want to be mocked for my flying ability,
and Buck would. Buck would troll me enough that he
would get in a car drive ten miles an hour

(01:17:17):
just to sit under me and be like, look at this,
I'm doing this in a car. You think it's cool
you can find I don't want that. I don't need
that smoke.

Speaker 4 (01:17:24):
Yeah, but like if you were at a party or something,
it's not like you would be like you wouldn't have
enough room to run one hundred miles an hour at
least if you're you know, floating, you're not.

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:17:32):
If I just start in the air mid party, I'm
some kind of like godlike figure, which would delight me
even more than my ego already makes me think that
I am no.

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
No, I'm walking outside to Lower Broad and I'm showing
everybody one hundred miles an hour because you said instantly
run one hundred miles an hour. If I can go
zero to one hundred, right up and down Lower Broad
three four times, whoa, whoa, oh, smoke coming off my
feet seas.

Speaker 1 (01:17:57):
Let's go okay.

Speaker 4 (01:18:05):
Would you rather always be sticky all over your body
or always be itchy.

Speaker 1 (01:18:09):
All over your body sick?

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
I don't want to have to be itch itchy. Itchy
is bad, all right, itchy itchy. If you itch guys,
go to the clinic. If you're sticky, you're just sticky
all right, Like there's just no like, I'm out, I'm
out on itchy.

Speaker 1 (01:18:22):
I will take sticky all day long.

Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
Sticky is obnoxious, but no out on all on, just
because then you're constantly scratching yourself and nobody wants it.
Like it's weird when you're at the table and you're
constantly scratching yourself. If you know that I'm sticky, you'll
just you'll give me a little bit of space, which
also I won't hate in the booth. You won't sit
next to me for the.

Speaker 4 (01:18:38):
People who don't know though, Like if you first meet someone,
if you meet someone for the first time and you
shake their hands.

Speaker 2 (01:18:43):
Oh no, I love the idea of looking I'm looking
Buck in the eye. Like again, We're on the red
carpet of the CMAS and I walk up and like,
you know, I don't know, Blake Shell walks up and
I'm like, hey, Blake, hold.

Speaker 1 (01:18:52):
On, hold on, I'm sticky.

Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
Don't touch me, like I just want to be able
to say that, just having no context to why I'm sticky.

Speaker 1 (01:18:59):
Don't tell me? Then yeah, no.

Speaker 3 (01:19:04):
Enough, that's the second time he's growled, Mary, find him,
find him?

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
Right, this was intentional.

Speaker 3 (01:19:09):
Go ahead, I will take the itchiness. I think that
you know, sticky can sometimes lead to itchy in that
particular situation, depending on which clinics Fitzy is suggesting that
you visit. But I would prefer to just I can
subtly itch I cannot be subtly sticky. That's disgusting.

Speaker 1 (01:19:25):
Just that's the quote of the night.

Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
One more?

Speaker 1 (01:19:27):
Can we squeeze one more? Any and you can do
this on God's work?

Speaker 3 (01:19:31):
Shake did like one? All right?

Speaker 4 (01:19:34):
Well those were kind of more negative. This is more positive.
So would you rather have every traffic let you ever
approach be green? Or never have to wait in line
ever again?

Speaker 3 (01:19:43):
Oh the line? No, I know lines, ever, I don't
wait lines now. I'm never waiting in lines again.

Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
There's nothing worse than the personal hell of getting stuck
at every red light, which happens to me every time
I go up and down Gallaxton Road in Nashville. So no,
I want all greens. I want all greens. Stick with
Fox Sports Radio. That's like hitting a green light every
sing good time you drive. Thanks for hanging out, Have
a great night.

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