Buck & Fitz React Live to the SEC Championship, Preview the Big 10 Championship & More!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's only fitting that an absolutely chaotic year of college
football brings us all the way down to the wire
with conference championship games that actually do matter, no matter
how much some people want to tell you none of
it does. The fact is the College Football Playoff Committee
is watching, the College Football Committee is judging, and right.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
Now things could get a little bit hairy.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
He's Buck Rising, I'm Jason Fitzbucket fits on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
All right, what do we think? Buck?

Speaker 2 (00:32):
I came into this as an agent of chaos and
a lover of all things absolutely awful. I wanted as
much chaos for the committee to work out as possible.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Now, b why you got there?

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Buz whooped earlier today by Texas Tech. We'll get to
that in a minute, But right now we're sitting at
fourteen to nothing in the SEC championship game. Georgia had
a couple of drives near the end of the first half.
I thought they were gonna make it twenty one nothing.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
At the half. Do you believe is there any shot
with this game? Right now?

Speaker 2 (00:57):
At fourteen nothing? Let's say it's just Denz will be jen.
Let's say it ends up thirty eight nothing. All right,
let's just see that this ends up on absolute thumping.
Any chance Alabama gets left out.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
I mean, is there a chance? Sure?

Speaker 4 (01:11):
And I think Greg Sankee would immediately, you know, call
a deaf con one situation and start campaigning the way
that Nick Saban did a couple of years ago when
Alabama was getting ready to get left off and change
the entire landscape of college sports again, just to make
sure that the SEC can keep status quo in their minds.
I mean, it's not a good showing by Alabama. Georgia

(01:33):
hasn't been overwhelming, and there's a chance that Alabama could
come back in this game and make it competitive fun well,
I mean, I'm just saying Georgia is not Georgia is
not what we typically associate with them. As far as
their defense goes, They're one of their biggest weaknesses is
the inability to affect the quarterback. Now, they've been effective
enough tonight and Alabama hasn't really threatened them, and Alabama's

(01:56):
kind of looked fraud I would argue for the past
month of the regular season, and there was just no
scenario fitsy in which I thought Kirby Smart was going
to live. Do you know Kirby Smart is zero to
two against Kaylen de Boer coming into today.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
That is wild, That is I did not know that,
and you say it, it makes sense.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
It doesn't feel right.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
It doesn't feel right.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
And so there was no way when they were going
to see each other twice in the same season where
I thought that Kirby Smart and the way that this
Georgia team was ascending as it felt like Alabama was
slightly descending, despite you know, managing the situation and still
finishing ten and two in the best conference in college football.
I just didn't think there was any way where Kirby
Smart was going to lose twice in the same season
to Kaylen de boor.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Well, look, when there's very little you can trust in
the college football season so far, I trust coaches that
have won national championships, and I think we forget sometimes
at Kirby's one of the few in the sports that
have done that.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
Now, there's just a lot on the line. To the
eye test.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Number one, I want to remind everybody that this is
the one weekend of the year where the College Football
Playoff Committee and don't don't nobody could tell me why.
I don't understand this at all. But this is the
only weekend of the year where the college football Playoff
Committee all sits together in one room as they watch
the games. What else should they do? Like if yours
I realize they all have other jobs. But if you
are taking this position to be on the college football

(03:12):
Playoff committee and you don't even have to be in
the same room as everybody I have alread, tell me that.
But we are getting everybody in the same room for
this weekend. So to me, when you have everybody in
the same room and Ty Simpson has an absolutely awful
first half, I mean a.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
Couple of those.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
I won't necessarily blame one of the picks on him,
but he hasn't been accurate. I think he was five
to twelve in the first half was the number, and
now so far in the second half, they're facing a
third and long already. It's just this is not if
this was the game where you thought Ty Simpson was
going to show everybody that he is the type.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
Quarterback that you should spend a top five draft pick on.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
I watched this and say, this is more of the
type of game that shows you that Ty Simpson just
needs more time, and that's okay, that's okay.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
You know, if the committee is.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Watching this together and they're watching this Georgia defense man
handle the line of scrimmage, and they're watching this Georgia
defense make Ty Simpson uncomfortable at every turn.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
Now, I hear you.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Alabama could come back, and then this could all look
foolish by the time we get off air. I think
there's a much better chance that this game gets out
of hand. And that's where a third loss, a third
I know conference championship games shouldn't count against him, but
when we are right on the bubble and there's gonna
be some bid thieves, a third loss just feels like
it's at least worthy of a discussion.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
Oh sure, especially when Texas has three losses and is
actively campaigning. In this situation, now I am curious. And
it's almost as soon as I said it that the
Georgia defense doesn't hasn't been successfully getting pressure on people
this year, that Georgia gets a sack and forces Alabama
into fourth and eighteen and makes them punt in this
situation as we start the second half here, So you know,

(04:45):
just because things haven't gone a certain way all season long,
doesn't mean that they can't still happen in a single
game sample size, which is always something that college football
in particular subjects us to. But a three loss Alabama team,
it would be the conversation then how far would they drop?
And what happens here with Indiana. Indiana I'm assuming is

(05:09):
going to lose to Ohio State. I would love if
my alma mater got it done in the Big Ten Championship.
I just think that if the Penn State game for
them was the moment where they almost stubbed their toe
against a very much more talented football team and Mendoza
had his Heisman moment and Omar Cooper in the back
of the end zone and the whole thing, right, I
feel like today is the day where Ohio State finally

(05:31):
bridges that talent gap and says, no, we just simply
have better horses than you. So, assuming that things go
chalk the rest of the way through the evening, we'll
see what happens in the ACC Championship game, which is,
by the way, one of the weirdest ACC Championship games
in my lifetime. Duke and Virginia, it's just Bizarro world
that college football has us and it's specifically in that conference.

(05:52):
So we'll see what the fallout from today's games are,
and then what the conversation is around the teams that
drop back further. Obviously, by you not able to enact
the chaos scenario, so BYU losing helps Notre Dame get in.
At this point in time, what is the conversation then
going to be around Notre Dame in Miami, Miami not
playing in the conference championship game, of course, much to

(06:13):
the much to the just anger general venom of Miami
fans at this point in time, I think Alabama sitting
at nine as we sit here today and looking down
the barrel of a third loss on the season, they
very much have the potential of getting left out here,
and I think Bama fans would freak the holy hell out.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
This is where it gets complicated, because you're right, Alabama's
nine currently, Notre Dame is ten, BYU is eleven, Miami
is twelve. I'm telling everybody that because I heard Herbie
earlier in the broadcast talking about BYU getting their ASCID
is just kicked. Will that be enough that they do
a flip flop and put Miami in eleven.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
Why would that be significant?

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Because if Miami goes to eleven, now you have a
head to head conversation about number ten Notre Dame versus
number eleven Miami, knowing that Miami has the head to
head win, but the committee hasn't cared about that. We
all know that, So then is there a chance that
Miami leap frog's Notre Dame? All of this I keep
looking at and saying, yeah, but what happens if Alabama.
I've been screaming this all week on Mayahu show, what

(07:13):
happens if Alabama just gets thumped? Because if Alabama gets
thumped and all they do is fall into that next
level conversation, well, knowing that they group these things in threes,
is it enough to suddenly put Alabama as they vote
on them, is it enough to suddenly put Alabama Notre
Dame in Miami in the same conversation? And then you
would have a three loss Alabama team versus a two

(07:34):
loss Notre Dame team and a two loss Miami team
trying to figure out how to make common sense out
of all of that. All Alabama really has to do is,
through that process fall to number eleven and they'll be
left out again. I gotta stress to everybody that may
not cover college football or follow college football right now,
it's the top five conference champions. Ranked conference champions all

(07:55):
get a guaranteed bid. They don't get a guaranteed buy anymore,
but they get a guaranteed bid. So in all likehood
of Virginia wins this wild ACC Championship game, they will
be one of those. Well, they're not currently a top
twelve team, so they become a bid thief. But you
also have to put in the highest ranked group of
five at this point, which is not currently ranked in
the top twelve. So your number eleven and twelve teams
are going to get left out of this. Alabama's currently

(08:17):
number nine, and that's where it gets precious. All they
got to do is fall to eleven if they get
their butts kicked, and these things get really, really, really
tough for them, because and look, I don't know that
I want a college football world in some ways where
I'm looking at two Lane or North Texas instead of Alabama.
What world do we really believe that those are better
football teams than Bama?

Speaker 4 (08:39):
Oh well, and it's I mean, and here here we
go in a situation where Georgia has gotten on the
board yet again, it seems not you are touchdown run
by Nate Fraser to just continue to widen that gap fitsye.
To your point about the scenario one where Alabama, Yeah,
I mean this is this is the scenario, or at
least one of the scenarios where you were just talking.

(09:00):
Demore looks like he's sweating at Bama fans are apoplectic
in the stands at this point in time, or at
least the television broadcast is showing them as I'm watching
that here in the studio in Cleveland. By the way,
many thanks to the people that I heart in Cleveland
for making my travel a little more easy so that
they could accommodate the show today. Yes, I very much
appreciate them. I'm here for the toilet baltimorrow between sdor

(09:22):
se Anders and km Ord. It'll be a great time.
But this scenario is the worst case scenario for Alabama,
And so I think again, if we're talking about a
scenario fitsie. And I actually didn't know that until you
said it, and you obviously with your time at ESPN
and going through the mock selection committee and all these
different things, have a greater understanding of the actual the

(09:45):
way that the actual sausage is made, far more than
the average you know, college football fan who's probably still
tracking this thing at great length and hanging on every
word that Hunter Yurachek says, and these awful teleconferences or
television appearances that he does. It just makes absolutely no
damn sense what he says. The thing for me is

(10:06):
what you pointed out about the committee watching these games
all together, and how much I almost like that they
don't watch the games all together before this because it
allows them to have independent thought, and then they come
together after the fact and they debate amongst themselves. If
they are now watching these things, these conference championship games collectively,

(10:26):
I think there's far more opportunity for group think. And
if the group thing is man that Alabama team's kind
of stinky, maybe we should just drop them out of
the playoff all together, then that starts to infect the
entire process, which I don't think most people would have considered.
I think most people would have assumed one that they're
watching these things together and that that compare and contrast
happens in real time.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
I almost think it's it's not a good thing.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yeah, it's interesting because I've even asked former committee chairs.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
I've never talked to yuro A check. But during my time.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
At ESPN, I hosted our digital playoff rankings reaction show
every year, and so right after Reese got to talk
to the committee chair, I got to talk to the
committee chair. I got to go down to sit in
the room and talk to all of the committee members,
and you really get to go through the process. I'm
so thankful for the education and opportunity that I got
during that process. But what's interesting during that process to
me at some level, as I've even asked the committee chair, hey,

(11:17):
how do you track how much football some of these
guys are watching? Because there have been previous committees where
I genuinely question, Okay, are we Is it like the
NFL where they can they can look at the iPads
and know exactly how much time. Never got a straight
answer on that, right, So to me, my fear has
always been, Okay, some guys are just watching on the
plane while they're flying in to the Gaylord, Texan.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
I don't love that as an optic but I do.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
Appreciate what you're saying about group think because certainly, football guy,
and I am saying football guy in the way that
it sounds like a snarkily football guy can control a
room when we're talking about these games. Right, So football
guy right now, and that's the guy I always worry
about in these committees or think of.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
In these committees. Football guy is screaming about the line
of scrimmage.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
Football guy is screaming about the fact that Alabama AMA's
offensive line isn't good enough, that the quarterback is having
a hard time with the pressure, that he hasn't played
enough game.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
Football guy has got a feast at twenty one.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Nothing right, And so it just gets It depends on
what you want, because ultimately, if you like the system
the way it is, then you need Alabama to pull
closer in this game. If you want total chaos where
they have to re examine all of it, then we
could get that scenario. And the reason I root for
that is because I'm a purist that wants twelve best.
Not everybody agrees with this, buck, but like I want

(12:29):
the twelve best teams, and I don't care if all
twelve teams come from one conference. I don't care if
ten of them come from a conference. I don't care
if the SEC gets nobody in. I don't have a
favorite team, so I don't give a damn. I want
twelve best. The problem is when you try and always
find a way to include everybody, you end up including
teams that simply don't belong. So I talk all the

(12:51):
time to people to cover college football that disagree with
me and think my head is wildly up my rear
end I acquiesced to that. But the fact is, like
last year, it was easy because Boise State had Ashton
Genty and everybody wanted to see Ashton Genty.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
In the playoffs, so that was cool.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Nobody is sitting around right now saying, oh my god,
I can't wait for that first round playoff matchup that's
going to end up being two Lane versus Oregon.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
Like is who wants that, you know?

Speaker 2 (13:16):
And especially when we do have in Alabama that is
in this situation and a Texas that is being left out,
in a Vandy that's being left out, actual competent college
football teams that could give us better games. So I'm
rooting for disruption because frankly, Virginia TWU Lane, James Madison Duke,
Boise State these are not teams that I want to
see in the playoffs this year because just in my

(13:37):
general core, I don't believe they're amongst the top twelve
fifteen teams in the country.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (13:43):
I get that on principle if we were doing this
thing in a vacuum. But I do think, you know,
the whole purpose of expanding the postseason not just to
generate more revenue, although that is the primary reason why
all of these things exists. It's why Hunter you're a
check is talking Terese Davis on a Tuesday night, to
just continue to expand college football and the conversation around

(14:06):
it and the inventory that they can put on television
and slab sponsorship on the way that all this stuff works.
We understand this, but I do think that you still
have to, you know, you have to give people attainable
goals in the expanded playoff and some of these smaller
programs that you're talking about. No, I do not expect
James Madison should they make it into the College Football

(14:27):
Playoff when one of these final two bids to have
any kind of real upset potential. Right, We're probably going
to see a lot of first round slaughters. The way
that we did last year the first time around with
what would Indiana notre name, I think ended up being
the closest margin of defeat of any of those games,
and that really wasn't ever in doubt as we worked
our way through the first round in the first weekend

(14:48):
of the college football playoff stuff. But at the end
of the day, you want to you want to hold
true to what you are saying at your core, which
is twelve best teams. There are no twelve best teams,
right or at least within the context of can twelve
teams are twelve teams capable of winning a national championship?

Speaker 1 (15:11):
Of course not. We're just doing a lot of.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
This for window dressing and then give us an extra
weekend of meaningful football or quote unquote meaningful football, when
in reality, if you're having any conversation about a national
championship contender that doesn't include Ohio State, Indiana, Georgia, or
Texas Tech, the rest of these programs don't matter. That's
why you know, I'm I feel bad for Vanderbilt because

(15:35):
Vandy is you know, they're trying to do super desperate
and thirsty things like play a thirteenth game to just
prove to the committee one more time that they're worthy
of being in it and whatever. But like, at the
end of the day, beat Alabama and Texas and you
are in the college football playoff and it's not a
discussion Like that's just not it's not a sound argument
to me if you're trying to advocate as the fourteenth

(15:58):
or the twelfth ranked team team in the country that
you should legitimately be considered as a national championship contender
when we understand we're just talking about fourteens.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yeah, I think it's less about a championship, just wanting
to have that fun of a playoff game. But you're right,
he's Buck Rising, I'm Jason Fitz. We're just getting started
again right now. The SEC championship game so far a
blowout twenty one to nothing.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
Georgia is ahead.

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When is the last time I've seen a Charlie Brown Special?

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Speaker 4 (18:25):
I think it has to I think not since I
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years here at this point in time.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
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Speaker 3 (18:39):
They didn't steal it. The paid for it.

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Speaker 3 (18:48):
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Speaker 2 (18:49):
The ACC Championship game might be the most convoluted, just
stupid thing I've seen in a long time. A five
way tie for first place in the conference puts Duke
in the ACC Championship Game taking place tonight against Virginia
Duke instead of number twelve currently in the College Football
Playoff ranked Miami. This is all the more reason that

(19:09):
I just want to get rid of conference championship games.
Or if they don't want to get rid of conference
championship games, how's this for a suggestion, Buck, you're ready
for this? The conference champion or the conference commissioner of
every conference can pick the two teams that go into
the conference championship game, and that way the ACC can
turn around and say, you know what, here are the
two teams we need in order to try and get ourselves,

(19:31):
and like turn it into a glorified playing game to
make sure you get your best teams in the college
football play if it'll never happen, but something's broken if
you get seven and five Duke playing Virginia for the
ACC Conference championship game when you have the twelfth ranked
team in the country sitting at home.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
Did you see this?

Speaker 4 (19:49):
Somebody sent it to me the other day because I
hadn't seen it organically. John Gruden tries sitting down for
six and a half minutes in front of a camera
and like diagnosing all the things that are wrong with
college football and conferences college football playoff in the selection committee.
It's actually very I mean not that Gruden's not capable
of this, but it's very well thought out.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
It's very compelling, and in.

Speaker 4 (20:09):
A scenario where people, I think you and I have
talked about this before, people are just bitching about all
the different things that are wrong with the scenarios rather
than trying to articulate a plan that actually makes sense,
a plan that's viable moving forward.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
I thought that Gruden.

Speaker 4 (20:22):
I'm sure somebody smarter than I could poke more holes
in it, but I thought Gruden did a pretty good
job with that, because this is this is the problem, right,
and the ACC seems to face it more than any
other conference at least that I can think of, where
it's just kind of a it's just kind of something
that comes along with modern college football when you have
conference realignment and the conferences are just jam packed full

(20:46):
of programs at this point in time because of the
money grab that everybody's everybody's trying to piece in part
A tear a piece off of where Rutgers is in
the Big ten and Maryland is in the Big ten
and all the kind of nonsense things that don't make
any actual sense. Geographically, you're gonna get limited crossover between
these teams, which is gonna give you all these crazy

(21:08):
kind of tiebreaker scenarios, which has come to pass this year.
Why Duke is in the ACC Championship game, it's I
don't think and I've read. I've tried to read up
on this as best as humanly possible so I could
understand a bit more. And David Hale did a good
job on ESPN kind of diagnosing the ACC system and
why it's not that much different than other conferences, but

(21:29):
why it still comes out with a lot of these results.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
And if you're looking at.

Speaker 4 (21:34):
Duke, I mean, they went six and two in the ACC,
so there's there's a there's an argument to be made
for them, but it's just there's so many different parts
of this where if you want chaos, like you claim to,
just pure chaos and nothing else, no rooting interest or otherwise,
the ACC is the conference for you, brother, because they
will put your head in a blender trying to figure
out who belongs in their championship game every year.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Well, look, no doubt, and to David Hill's point, for
anyone that didn't see the Mountain West had to go
to a computer to decide how they were who was
taking on Poise State in the Mountain West Championship. The
computer spit out, unlv it took that much to try
and figure it out. When you get into these tiebreakers,
I get it. I don't think there's an easy solution.
Where it becomes problematic is if you're the ACC and
you're left out of this.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
Thing one time.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
Number One, you've opened up the can of worms of
the possibility of being perceived in a way where you'll
be left out all the time. Number Two, you are
going to face a financial problem because you're not getting
some of the cut of that college football playoff, which
is a real reason everybody wants to be in it.
Number Three, every recruit in the country is now going
to be as teams recruit against you, they're gonna go say,
don't play in the ACC if you want to play

(22:38):
for a national championship. I mean, just the trickle down effect.
And then just the fact that some of the biggest
brands that are supposed to save the conference simply aren't
good enough. All become an issue. Let's get you caught
up on the SEC Championship game and everything going on
across the landscape.

Speaker 6 (22:53):
Right now, Martin, what's going on? Got us call it up, brother,
right now? Chaos is going on. It looks like Kirby
Smart and Georgia Bulldogs. It's been all Georgia thus far
in the SEC Championship game. Just under four minutes left
in the third quarter, twenty one to nothing Bulldogs. They
have the ball and they're driving his second and one
now for Georgia right around midfield gunners. Stockton's got two

(23:15):
touchdown passes, Nate Fraser's got a touchdown.

Speaker 8 (23:18):
Run, Dylan Bell with a touchdown.

Speaker 6 (23:20):
I'm sorry, yeah too, touchdown, had two touchdown passes, A
Phrase with touchdown run, Dyl Bell touchdown catch, And it's
been all Georgia thus far in the SEC Championship. Big
twelve Championship was pretty much the same story. Texas Tech
won thirty four to seven over BYU. Texas Tech likely
securying a buy in the upcoming College Football Playoff. BYU

(23:41):
led that game seven to nothing and didn't score after that.
They'll likely miss the college football playoff fall after losing
that matchup, Iowa State was one of the first teams
to fire their head.

Speaker 8 (23:51):
Coach this year.

Speaker 6 (23:52):
They finally hire Iowa State's Matt Campbell eight year deal
for Matt Campbell to leave Iowa State. He was the
winningest coach in cyclone street Man's College basketball. Tenth ranked
Iowa State beat per Due eighty one to fifty eight's
the worst home lost ever for a number one ranked team.
Fourth rank Duke beats seventh rank Michigan State sixty six
to sixty and sixth rength Moival beat twenty second ranked

(24:13):
Indiana eighty seven to seventy eight. Michigan beat Rutgers one
oh one to sixty. The third ranked Wolverines undefeated.

Speaker 8 (24:23):
Still on the year and in the NFL.

Speaker 6 (24:25):
Chargers expect North Carolina Former North Carolina running back o
Mario Hampton the rookie to return to the line of
Monday Night football against the Eagles. It's one nineteen to
ten in the rushing yard matchup between Georgia and Alabama.
Make that about one twenty four to ten.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Back to you boys, Oh, this game is just absolutely
getting out of control.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
We will keep you updated on it.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
But in the meantime, Bucket fits, Buck Rising, Jason Fitz
hanging out with you on Fox Sports Radio.

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about me, Buck, They would only say that about you,
good sir, because you were in Cleveland.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
I feel like.

Speaker 4 (25:21):
Just sideswipe me right away. Also, the citive Cleveland is fine.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
Like I'm great.

Speaker 4 (25:27):
I'm not down on Cleveland as a place tonight. In fact,
I was pleasantly surprised when I got off the airplane
a couple of hours ago that it was not miserable here. Now,
this football game that I'm getting credit to cover tomorrow
between the Titans and the Browns, it figures to be
a little more miserable, just in terms of the quality
of football on the field. If nothing else God helped
cam mored Miles. Garrett is four sacks away from the

(25:49):
single season sack record, and he may well just break
it in the game tomorrow and just keep on rolling
and continue to set the bar impossibly high because he's
the most freakish defensive end I've ever seen in my life.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
Ask you this.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
We we joke often that you are covering the Tennessee Titans,
and that is a uh that is not right. I get,
And I've heard a lot of jokes about this game
that you are covering. I would argue that this game
between the Browns and the Titans is one of the
more significant games actually of the weekend. You can suck
and still have significant storylines. In fact, for anyone that

(26:23):
didn't see this, this week, Google released the list of
the most searched athletes in the world. Number one was
Shadoor Sanders chado Or Sanders, with the fifth most searched
person on Google, fifth most searched person overall, Shadoor Sanders
and I can be here before.

Speaker 4 (26:40):
You go on. I'm sorry, yeah, I can you explain
that to me? I am I just ignorant, and it's
not like I'm not down on him or anything like that, Like,
I have no feelings about him whatsoever. I'm so I'm
so perplexed by people's anger. I don't know if you
saw recently that the sister of Josina Anderson was sending

(27:02):
threatening messages to a Browns beat writer who's been actually
pretty favorable in the coverage of Stood or Standers, just
because Shudor feels like, you know, there's a component of
the population that feels like shad Or Sanders is being
preyed upon or like actively held down. And there's another
portion of the population that hates him because they hate
his dad, and they hate the attitude, and they hate
the brashness and all these different things, Like I have

(27:22):
no feelings about this human being whatsoever.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Make that make sense to me.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
I saw it over the summer with Yahoo.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
Every time we would say anything about Shadur, it suddenly
became just the comments, just the views everything.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
And look, when I first started with Yahoo.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
We were doing late night college football reaction videos and
Shador and Dion together at Colorado. The numbers were so
big on it, we decided it was worse staying up
until two in the morning just to do a reaction
to Colorado think about how much we were talking about
Colorado foot oh yeah, and now think about how much
we don't so like it tells you right there it

(27:59):
wasn't Dion. It was this combination of Dion and Shador,
and then everybody made up their mind. And what's weird
about the entire Chador situation is that once conspiracy theorists
and pop culture get involved, can't you can't bog a
conspiracy theorists down with details like you can convince a
conspiracy theorist of another conspiracy theory every time, you can't
convince them of the facts. And so what you have

(28:19):
are people that don't know oftentimes that don't even watch sports,
that have no idea how rosters work or management works,
or as we saw reps with the ones where people
don't know this information and they're reacting with such outrage
to every single.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
Thing that happens.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
So if he's getting snaps, it's outraged to the people
that are anti Shador, If he's not getting snaps, it's
outraged the people that are pro Shador, and all along
the way.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
My question is how much Shador have you even watched?

Speaker 2 (28:45):
Like I, because of my job, I watched his entire
body of work in college football. Because of my draft coverage,
I watched all of the every throw of Shador's college
career I've watched.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
I was surprised he fell down to the fifth round.
I was.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
I didn't think it was a gross injustice. I didn't
think it was some sort of Oh my god, I
was surprised. But all of a sudden, in that moment,
people that don't even know a thing about football became
opinionated about this man. And the minute that happened, it
became about something more than football, And that's that's weird.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
Like, I don't even know how you like. I would
love to sit down with.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
A group of people that are super opinionated on Shadur
with a pop quiz and just hand them the pop
quiz that asks twenty basic questions about quarterback development in
the NFL and see how many people even understand it.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
And if you don't understand.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
It, then, like, just just shut up and listen long
enough to form actual real opinions. I don't think anybody
on either side's listening. It's a little like our modern
political climate. I'd rather yell at you than listen to.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
What you have to say.

Speaker 6 (29:44):
Fitz if I could real quick, I don't mean to interrupt,
but you guys started this asking how could Shador Sanders
be the most googled athlete in America?

Speaker 8 (29:52):
Buck said, make this make sense to me.

Speaker 6 (29:54):
The last the next last three minutes, you guys have
explained why because there's so many questions that people have
around him. He's more I would say, the first celebrity
quarterback that we've had that is like more celebrity than quarterback.
Every other quarterback we've had has been a celebrity because
he's been a great quarterback, and then a celebrity grows
from there, Sir Doris Sanders, celebrity grew from a place

(30:16):
of like almost like you can have George Clooney celebrity
group because he's.

Speaker 8 (30:20):
A great actor.

Speaker 6 (30:21):
There's other people who are celebrities because they're on reality TV.
That doesn't mean that they're great actors by any stretch,
but people still are interested in what they're doing.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
And what about TBO? I mean Tibo is my first counter.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Like I remember when Tebow came out when the band
was opening for Brad Paisley, t BO came out on
stage and the entire audience and everybody on stage t
boat like it was a whole funt like t bowing
was a consultant social media phenomenon like, but it was
done with less with less outrage. Wasn't it like when
there were certain people that thought Tebow.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
Was religious component, Yeah, that's that. There was always good.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
People people thought that that was being held again, but
it wasn't the same, was it?

Speaker 5 (31:01):
Like?

Speaker 3 (31:01):
Am I remembering that wrong book?

Speaker 1 (31:04):
No?

Speaker 4 (31:04):
I mean you would have a better recollection of that
than I would. I. Okay again, ignorance here hand up
this This may be explaining why why I don't understand
was he on reality TV?

Speaker 3 (31:15):
TMO or.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
No?

Speaker 3 (31:18):
No, he wasn't on reality TV at all? Like where
did it start from? Why did it?

Speaker 1 (31:22):
Then? What am I?

Speaker 8 (31:23):
Then?

Speaker 4 (31:23):
I guess I was confused by the analogy because Martin
Martin Martin was what did I did? I screw that up?
Like I thought you were saying that he was on
reality TV, which is why he's a celebrity.

Speaker 8 (31:34):
Well to the point of being on reality TV.

Speaker 6 (31:36):
He's on like the gen Z version of reality TV,
which is YouTube. Like his YouTube page, there's millions of followers,
and they were broadcasting and twitching and now, Okay, so.

Speaker 4 (31:45):
He's just one of these things like where we're just
creating famous people that people don't actually know.

Speaker 6 (31:49):
But my point was, like my point was that like
if you look at like historically Brad Pitt or George
Clooney or even Morgan Freeman, any of these famous actors,
you know, you know them because they're great at acting,
right the same way that you would the same reason why.

Speaker 8 (32:05):
You know who Dan Marino is.

Speaker 6 (32:06):
You know him because you was a great quarterback and
that was what makes him relevant. However, you have tons
of people now in just the sphere of the world,
right when you talk about the most Google people, tons
of people in the sphere of the world who are
not necessarily great actors or anything, but they're on a
reality TV? Are there a Twitch streamer? Are there this
person that makes them like, I don't know who I

(32:27):
Show Speed is, but I know he's not the fastest
person in the world, right, I know that, but I
know that people watch more of him than they do
actual the fastest people in the world. There's like something
about that good.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
That's a good example though, Like is anybody sitting here
saying why is I Show Speed not on the Olympic.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
Team, like why did that transfer over?

Speaker 8 (32:46):
Why?

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Is like, as I get you, that's a really good
point that you know, frankly, they were so wildly certain,
like he is so wildly known. But people aren't in
an uproar about the nation trying to hold him back
if he's not on the US Olympic team, are they.

Speaker 4 (33:01):
Yeah, there's there's a there's also a component of I
think the relationship. And I'm not qualified to speak on this,
but I you know, I just try to take away
from conversations that I have with other people who are
trying to Again I'm people, many people have tried to
explain this entire phenomenon to me, and I just I
simply can't wrap my head around it.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
Maybe I'm just stupid, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (33:24):
Uh, but the dynamic between Dion and Chadour and the
way that Dion uh is a parent to Shador, and
how that is representative to a community, and how people
want to support that, and how people are very defensive
about that when they feel it's under attack. That brings
out an additional level of polarization to it. So I

(33:44):
you know, there's there's a bunch of different dynamics at
play here.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
I guess I'm answering my own question that that are.

Speaker 4 (33:50):
That are kind of coming together to create this just
I mean insane buzz around a person. I mean, he's
he started to football games in the NFL, Like I'm so,
I'm so utterly confused by I guess not even the
celebrity part of it, but the dialogue around him, because

(34:12):
I think you and I Fitzi at some point the
summer had a similar conversation around angel Reese, where there
are people with such strong Angeli's opinions that don't actually
watch the Chicago Skuy Like, they don't watch angelries play.
They don't, you know, they see the clips on social
media and things like that. They may see your tweets
or whatever, and they decide that they're going to have
strong opinions about the player beyond the person.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
And even if you're trying to make an.

Speaker 4 (34:35):
Assumption about the person via social media, you're probably doing
it a little off base anyway. But it's just it's
it's people seem to really just enjoy yelling at other
people about this thing that I don't think they're overwhelmingly
informed about.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
It's weird.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
I've never seen a discourse like this about coaches sabotaging
players from so many people that some are in the
know and some are smart people, smart people saying stuff licens.
We'll keep breaking it down because there's also an element
to this game. While this game may not be important,
that absolutely impacts the beginning of next year's draft. I'll

(35:09):
tell you what it is next. He's Buck Rising. I'm
Jason fitz bucking Fits on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
It's a legendary pool from Mary mac It's fucking Fits
on Fox Sports Radio. Buck is definitely what's the what's
the one that has like the cloud of dust around him?

Speaker 3 (35:28):
Pigpen. That's definitely Buck in this scenario, He's pig Pen.
I'm the piano player.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Obviously, that makes you one of the dancers. And I
made you Pigpen. I don't You don't seem to appreciate that.
But I mean, if if there was any one Peanuts
character that was likely, you know, to eat at a
Golden Corral, it's Pigpen and that so that makes you Pigpen.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
That's just what happened.

Speaker 4 (35:46):
I if I could would reach through this FaceTime screen
that you and I are currently on, and I would
grab you by your tiny little neck and I would
ring you like like Homer Simpson and Bart Simpson, which
I'm sure is probably not a not a preferred way
of viewing the father Son dynamics, since we were just

(36:06):
talking about father Son dynamics in the previous segment. Also,
nothing about me indicates unclean, Okay, like I could not
be more opposite of pig.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
Pen if you wanted to do.

Speaker 4 (36:17):
If you wanted to castigate me with a Peanuts character,
it probably be Linus. Isn't Linus the one with the
security blanket?

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (36:26):
I don't. Is Linus the woman with the blanket?

Speaker 1 (36:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (36:29):
Yeah, I'm looking it up here, and yes, I think
Linus is the one.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Or Lucy. I feel like i'd be a good Lucy,
you know what.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
I'm just somebody, please just cut that and put that
into the futures.

Speaker 3 (36:41):
I feel like i'd be a good Lucy, you know what.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
Yeah, because I would. I would hold the football for you.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
I would trick you again and again and again into
kicking the football, and because you're more on, you would
go to kick the football every time, and then you'd
be pissed. And I would laugh at you. Thus the
dynamic of our relationship.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
I would be a good lucy.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
Now here's what I mean. Nah, you wouldn't think.

Speaker 4 (37:02):
Okay, just no opinion, what whatsoever? No contribution other than
the dead fish in our last marriage.

Speaker 3 (37:08):
Nah. Okay, So you don't have the divon this you
got like you just you know you can't be her.

Speaker 4 (37:14):
The diva is Are you kidding me? This is an
attack on my person. I feel like I could not
be more diva if I tried?

Speaker 2 (37:23):
Could Can anyone explain to me this one core part
of that that's never made sense to me. Charlie Brown
runs up to the football, The football has moved. He
goes to kick the football and then he flies through
the air and lands on his backside.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
Why what powerma?

Speaker 2 (37:39):
And that momentum was all going to be stopped if
his foot hit Like so, there's only one like the
football's there, you don't fall, the football moves, you suddenly fall.
That feels like that that's a very failed logic to me.

Speaker 4 (37:51):
Maybe it's like when Joe Burrow through that through that
pass in the snow that goes viral a couple of
times a year, and he spins around he doesn't need
to spin around. It's not it's not palats, he's not
doesn't need to pirouette margin in that situation.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
It's the opposite of young Waiku. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Definitely.
Cou comes up with just a little bit. It comes
up a little bit, a little short, and.

Speaker 4 (38:11):
That had to hurt, like holy hell, right, like, no,
I've done you off. You drag your foot across the
turf that way like you're coming up with at least
a stub toe.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
That's got to be the worst stub toe in the world.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
This is the only thing that Ku could have ever
done that would have saved that moment. At that moment,
he should just say thank you, good night, wave to
the cameras, and walk off the field into the dress
like stud walk over. You're like, I'm done. I get it.
My career is over. I should never get to kick again.
I missed the football by a large amount, and I
missed it short. Uh.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
We do have an update for you. In the SEC
Championship game, we have a score for Bama. So this is.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
Incredibly important because now Bama is down twenty one to
seven ten minutes to go in this game. I cannot
stress this enough that is a massive difference twenty one
nothing versus twenty one seven. If the committee's looking at this,
let's see what happens over the course of the last
nine minutes here. But they just stopped Georgia near midfield,
and Georgia is going to be punting the ball back

(39:08):
to Alabama. So Alabama is doing their best to scratch
and claw their way back into this game. I could
literally not care less if they win the SEC championship game,
but this will become key because if they're able to
sort of make this feel like a closer game in
the fourth quarter, that gives the committee everything they need
to keep Bama where they are.

Speaker 4 (39:26):
Love it or hated, Yeah, no, I mean it's kind
of the Kurt Signetti against Ohio State situation last year
right where they played in the regular season Indiana Ohio State, and.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
He was he was very brash, as is.

Speaker 4 (39:40):
His nature his custom in those situations, and took some
style points at the end of the game that people
were quick to point out and laugh at them about.
But again, it matters if you're just trying to secure
a spot.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
Well, and a muffed punt recovered at the two yard line,
But Alabama is going to keep possession.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
It looks like got away with one there.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
We'll keep you updated on that game and get you
up on the biggest game you're not talking about this weekend.

Speaker 3 (40:02):
We'll do it next.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
Bucket Fits on Fox Sports Radio. You're listening to Fox
Sports Radio Radio. He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason fitzbuck and
Fits on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
Hanging out with you.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
As you just heard, Georgia gets the ball thirteen yards
away from the end zone, up twenty one to seven.
Looks like the SEC Championship game could end up being
all but done. The only question will be the margin
of victory and what that means for the college football
playoff committee. We'll get into more of that, plus the
number one versus Number two matchup that's not getting enough height.
But Buck Rising is currently in Cleveland where the Titans

(40:36):
take on the Browns. Buck here's my question for you.
You love me lover of chaos, right, I said, And
I said back, And I just think of what's the
scenario that will make everybody the angriest, and then.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
I root for that.

Speaker 3 (40:45):
That's how I live most of my sports life.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
I angriest, yeah, or lose the most like they don't
have to be angry. I just want everyone to lose
their minds right like I want everyone to feel the
way every you know Sunday that I do as a
Raid fan, which isn't the greatest feeling in the world,
by the way. Touchdown Georgia twenty eight to seven. Now,
so here we sit with the Titans taking on Cleveland.

(41:09):
Let me take paint this scenario. Because everybody's sitting here saying.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
Why they hail?

Speaker 3 (41:13):
Are they talking about Browns.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
Versus the Titans. Let me give you this scenario. Shouldear
goes in, shureur plays lights out. Oh, Shouldear looks good?
Shouldeor throws three touchdown passes balls out.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
Everybody's looking at it and saying, wow, they may have
their guy. This is going to be really interesting to
watch looking forward. And at the same time, cam Ward
has let's say this sort of a line eleven to
thirty three for eighty seven yards and a pick. Like
we're talking, he's just absolutely manhandled all game because the
offensive line can't handle the Browns defensive line.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
This seems easy's predicted all of a sudden.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
You end up with this just wild butt whoopen where
clearly the better quarterback that day, not forever, but that
day is Shoud or Sanders, not cam Ward. The Titans
have the driver's seat path to the number one overall
pick in the draft. Any chance, and you cover this
team every day, is there any chance in your mind

(42:10):
that cam Ward would be somebody that they would think
about if it doesn't go well the last five weeks
moving on.

Speaker 4 (42:15):
From No, I don't think and listen. I don't want
to be definitive one way or the other. You you
always allow for that some margin, all right, Just shut
up and it's just you asked me a question, and
you come in here, and the first thing, the first.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
Five words out of my mouth, you back me up?
Did he not just say? Well, I don't want to
I don't really want to answer the question. I don't
want to say anything one way or the other.

Speaker 4 (42:42):
I mean, I was winding up, I was getting ready
to explain.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
No, that's what I heard. But there's no fine for that, Mary,
what do we do?

Speaker 4 (42:49):
Like like, I don't want to answer, then shut up
and get out of my way. They would definitively not
move on from cam Ward because then if them picked
cam Ward number one overall in twenty twenty five, the
GM that just got here because God knows, and I
don't know how long he'll be here because the Titans
just stay firing people. Amy Adam Drunk has her finger

(43:11):
on the hot button. She's like keeping pressing it, pressing it,
pressing it. Right if ready fire Amy. The whole situation
for the Titans is predicated around Mike Borganzi, this former
chiefs executive who is now running the Tennessee Titans, and
they're gonna let him run the coaching search and all
these different things that they've said a million times over
just to come swoop in the middle of the night

(43:33):
and fire Brian Callahan in week six because that's what
they do. Okay, but if they hired a guy that
drafted cam Ward number one. Overall, let us go through
what is going to be the season arguably, maybe even
inarguably the worst season in the Titans era since they
moved from Houston in nineteen Well, nineteen ninety eight is

(43:53):
when they move, but nineteen ninety nine is the Titans era, right,
Tennessee Titans versus Tennessee Oilers. So in the tight era
nineteen ninety nine to present, this is gonna be the
worst team that franchise has ever fielded. And if you
have a guy who just picked a quarterback number one
overall and is prepared to move on from that quarterback
the minute it starts to look a little rocky because
he can't handle Miaac Miles Garrett in ways that nobody

(44:14):
can this year, it would be an insanity. No, definitively,
they will not move on from cam Ward this year
just because they have the top draft pick. If they
don't trade that top draft pick for more help for
cam Ward, and they if they do anything to even
remotely in danger this poor young man's future who is
just trying to save their raggedy asses from being one

(44:36):
of the most god forsaken franchises in all of football,
they should all be fired. The franchise should be moved,
send it back to the Saint Louis area. They seem
to be missing NFL football enough of this already? Is
that definitive enough for you? Was that good radio?

Speaker 2 (44:49):
That was actually a brilliant, brilliant take, Because for all
the conversation I've heard about the Tennessee Titans of cam Ward,
I've never heard anybody sit down and say, hey, remember
the GM is still in the building that just picked
him with it first number one overall pick. That is
that is well said by you. I slow clap that.
That makes so much sense. I can't even clap back
to it. I truly can't. So that it is interesting

(45:13):
to me only because tonight in the Big Ten Championship game,
we're gonna see Fernando Mendoza in what I think is
one of the most important games we've seen all year.
Not because of the Big Ten Championship game. Who cares
about that.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
Both these teams are going to the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
But it is wildly difficult to judge who Ohio State
is and who Indiana has been so far this season
because they really haven't played anybody. And I'm not saying
that in a way like so many people say that
as ammunition for a take of like, oh, your team sucks,
you haven't played anybody. I'm saying that right now. I
genuinely just don't know. I wish more of us would

(45:46):
say I don't know in that situation, right So, Fernando Mendoz.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
You's got mad at me for saying I don't know.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
Well, no, I mean you said I'm not gonna make
a take there's a difference. Fernando Mendoza tonight has the
opportunity to go out and answer that question. If Fernando
man absolutely balls out, and then we're gonna see him
the playoffs. This is why, frankly, the expansion of the
college football playoff is such an incredible thing to me
as an NFL fan. For a second, let's just take

(46:12):
the college football portion of it. Take that over to
the side as an NFL fan. You know what's awesome
about the playoff expansion is that I'm going to get
to see, hopefully multiple games of what Fernando Mendoza looks
like against some of the best teams in the country
with everything on the line.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
We're gonna get the chance to see Dante Moore, the
quarterback out of Oregon.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
In high pressure situations with a lot on the line
and everybody focused on it. Like we need more games
like tonight to get a better sense of who ty
Simpson is as a quarterback, because certainly mark drafts right
now we're saying, oh, he could fly up boards. Well,
then we see him struggle against Georgia. We need more
quality quarterback versus quality team tape and we.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
Get that because a playoff expansion.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
So I'm just I don't know what the ceiling becomes
for Fernando Mendoza. I just know that if he goes
in tonight, and just like if Indiana wins tonight, that
is going to change Fernando mendo If Indiana wins tonight,
Mendoza will win the Heisman, Mendoza will will be the
first overall pick, and all of a sudden, whoever gets
him at that first overall pick.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
I think that there will be more hype today for.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
Fernando Mendez easy for me to say than there ever
was for cam Ward last year going into the draft.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
Based on what happens over the next.

Speaker 4 (47:21):
Weeks, well, well, for sure, because of what you just articulated,
he'll have been tested.

Speaker 5 (47:26):
Right.

Speaker 4 (47:26):
The thing with cam was that Miami was good and
he was a Heisman Trophy finalist. And I shouldn't say
Miami Miami. Miami was above average. They weren't quite great,
but they were a good to above average football team
with cam Warden as quarterback.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
But they didn't make the playoff.

Speaker 4 (47:40):
Like, you didn't see him really tested in these moments,
and a lot of times you'd look around and say, oh, well,
their defense. Their coordinator's going to get fired at the
end of the year. Cam Ward really never stood a
chance because he's being sabotaged by his other side of
the ball. Basically sounds familiar based on the situation for
him in Tennessee, but's it's huge draft implications for the
Big Ten championship game because it will affect the dialogue

(48:01):
around the quarterback instantaneously, and that's a huge benefit just
for to take it from the perspective of the team
that I cover on a day to day basis, the Titans.
You want Fernando Mendoza to look awesome. You want to
continue to lose football games as an organization, even if
your locker room is miserable, and Jeff Simmons is saying
how awful it is to come into work because that

(48:22):
play sucks at this point in time, and you hate
for a locker room to have to experience that, especially
for a rookie quarterback who.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
Just needs to taste success at some point.

Speaker 4 (48:31):
That isn't related to the Cardinals pooping themselves in Week
five for their only only win of the season, like
a real quality four quarter win, right He hasn't had
anything close at this point in time, if you're cam Word,
but you want the Jets to get thirstier for Fernanda Mendoza,
you want the Browns who don't have a settled quarterback situation.
I don't think Gabriel or Shador. We'll see what happens

(48:51):
with Kevin Stefanski at the end of the year. There's
already been some messaging around him potentially being maybe not
fired necessarily, but I don't know. If you read Jeremy
Fowler this week at ESPN, him talking about the idea
that Stefansi would immediately be a viable head coaching candidate
anywhere if he was in a situation where the Browns
and he parted ways at the end of the year,
which to me just screams like he's trying to at

(49:13):
least leverage, if not a raise for himself potentially an exit,
which would be a curious situation. But there's huge draft
implications from the Big Ten Championship game tonight.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
Let me let me give you the other side of
that Stefanski report, because I saw it and immediately saw people,
including some Cleveland media people, saying this is this is
Stefanski getting ahead of the market. What if it's the opposite.
What if it's the Browns getting ahead of the court
of public opinion when they announced that Stefanski is coming back,
because so many Browns fans are sitting here saying, oh,

(49:44):
Stefanski needs he's a bum, he needs to get out
of here.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
He sucks. There are people, are they really? Oh? God? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (49:51):
Like I will point reference point here. My my producer
on Yahoo's Ports Staley a massive, massive Browns fan, And
the number of times he's sends me the reddits and
the fan comments and all of these things because I
keep telling him I don't think Stefanski should be on
the hot seat and he's a Browns fan, and he
reminds me constantly Browns fans wants Stefansky gone, that his

(50:11):
play calling is part of the problem, and blah blah, Like.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
This is a minute, Cleveland.

Speaker 4 (50:15):
Maybe I should just go man on the street my
way around around downtown after this and ask them if
their fan base is idiots.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
That seems stupid to me.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
Well, I mean I don't. I think you'd probably get
a very very angry.

Speaker 3 (50:27):
Reaction to that question. But to that point, yes or no.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
I watched that and I thought, what if the Browns
are just getting ahead of the narratives that they think
will exist when they announce that he's coming back. Because
the interesting part of all of this and I will
remind the world that this game sucks. And if you
think this game sucks in the NFL, avoid December twenty eighth.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
For whatever you do. Just avoid the.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
December twenty eighth in the NFL, because that day there
are two games that day that will absolutely appall football
fans everywhere. The Titans currently the number overall pick. We'll
take on the Saints, who currently hold the third overall pick.

Speaker 8 (51:03):
Right.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
The Giants that day are in Vegas taking on the Raiders.
The two and the four take each other on that day.
December twenty eighth is going to remind us how many teams.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
Out there stink.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
But the fact is Cleveland is also in this conversation
at five overall. We talked earlier in the show about
not being able to figure out why people are losing
their minds about Shaduur.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
How are people going to react if Cleveland ends up
with the third.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
Overall pick and drafts a quarterback already to replace Shadur?
Like this is all just weird ramifications from what happened
last year, and it speaks to the chaos even amongst
the worst teams. It speaks to the chaos that we're
facing right now.

Speaker 4 (51:40):
I would think that highly likely if you're not preparing
yourself for that conversation.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
Is I guess? I guess?

Speaker 4 (51:46):
Shoulduur fans are different than Brown's fans are different than
you know, like there's different sub sects of people that
we're talking about here, because I would assume, again, maybe
I shouldn't make assumptions. I would have assumed that Cleveland
Browns fans would understand that Kevin Stefanci is not the
problem with their circumstance, and that Andrew Berry is far
more responsible. Although I mean his his rookie draft class
seems to be solid other than the quarterback situation, which

(52:08):
is just bizarre. At this point in time, I'm not
really sure how to evaluate the general manager of the Browns,
given that he's also associated with that Deshaun Watson contract,
which by the way, underrated headline Deshawn's off bup in
practice this week, like if they if they weren't messy enough, God,
these these fans must be so sick.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
I mean football, I don't.

Speaker 3 (52:28):
Really like nobody wants to hear this.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
DeShawn might get a shot to start there next year,
Like that contract is still going to have him there
for a year. And you imagine DeShawn could be the
starting quarterback of the of the Cleveland Browns next year.

Speaker 3 (52:42):
I'm not that's wild.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
Up talking dialogue.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
Yeah, oh my god, I can't even.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
I can't even.

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Sports Radio. Buck, all right, you're out on you're out
on fireworks, But where are you on Christmas Carols?

Speaker 5 (53:46):
Like?

Speaker 2 (53:46):
Is is Buck Rising the type to go out there
and do some Christmas Carolyn? Like you out there like singing,
singing in the streets for people? How are we on
the Christmas music?

Speaker 3 (53:55):
Buddy?

Speaker 4 (53:56):
Okay, those are two different conversations. Are you talking about
like door to door Christmas caroling? Are you just talking
about the concept of Christmas music?

Speaker 1 (54:05):
Period? Like point blank period.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
Like of both?

Speaker 2 (54:07):
Like what are we poorn like a glass of something
and sitting with like a little Vinyl Sinatra. I love
the idea of Buck with his feet up with you know,
a cat on each leg and just hanging out with
some Vinyl Sinatra.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
That would be preferred.

Speaker 4 (54:19):
If people were to show up at my door singing,
I would be very aggressive in removing them from the premises.
If I was asked to do a caroling situation, my
first question would be what does it pay? The second
question would be can I drink? The third question would
be well, it wouldn't be a question, it would be

(54:40):
a statement. Would be absolutely not. Get off my property,
just as quickly as the people that showed up at
my door caroling in that particular situation. Christmas music, I'm
not against, but the early playing of Christmas music, the
overwhelming of Halloween and Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
With Christmas music. It's November the fourth. I'm sitting the
Miami Airport.

Speaker 4 (55:02):
I'm trying to fly back from my lovely vacation on
the bye week because the Titans are terrible and I
needed a break, and I'm going to South Beach and
I'm sitting in the Miami Airport November fourth, and they're
just blaring, blaring, bing Crosby Christmas. It's too early, it's
too much. It has its place. I'm not saying that
you deed dedicated Halloween, Thanksgiving and Christmas music and that
there can't be a little bit of ven diagram somewhere

(55:24):
in between as we move through the holiday season, but
leave it at least closer to Christmas two weeks out.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
Look, we couldn't be more different to nobody's surprise, as
I'm the person that usually goes to Spirit Halloween the
day after Halloween to find all of the animatronics that
are half off. And while I'm stuffing my car full
of you know, Crouchy the clowns and things that move
and scare people, I've got Mariah Carey blasting in the
car as loud as huge as possible, that is. And frankly,

(55:54):
I caroled for years in Nashville, got a group of
people together go the go through the neighborhood.

Speaker 3 (55:58):
Used to always do it.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
In fact, one year we did a flash mob where
we rented a plus and we took a whole group
of people to all of the local malls. Like should
have seen the look on people in Nashville's faces when
we just walked into a Starbucks.

Speaker 3 (56:09):
Like we were going to order.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
And then all of a sudden, like thirty entertainers start
doing a full routine of Christmas songs I mean in it,
and then of course, because it's Nashville and nobody's impressed
with anything. We just got a smat. We didn't even
get really applause. It was like one or two people
in the back that gave smattering. You know, here we
are doing the.

Speaker 3 (56:25):
Chest Nut's right like poetry. Oh yeah, yeah, we're.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
Getting likely, We're getting a little little little poetry reading. Snapshah.
I'm in for all of the Christmas music. I'm a
fanatic for it. So to nobody's surprise, this is the
time of year where Bing Dean and Frank rule my
my radio. I've got like six presets on a car
that are all different different Christmas channels.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
And then because it's.

Speaker 4 (56:51):
December the sixth, that's okay. I'm just saying since November
the sixth. Brother, No, I'm aware you're the problem. You
shocking to nobody. You are the problem.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
I mean what, You're just a south Pole elf. That's
what we learned here.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
Like here, I am trying to sput that's fine, Buck,
But this is all I demand of you, because I
make demands.

Speaker 9 (57:09):
Now.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
All I demand is.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
That when a Christmas song of any sort comes on
and it has a lyric of the essence of I
wish it was Christmas every day.

Speaker 3 (57:17):
You concern don't get to sing it. You don't get
to sing that.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
Line because if you have a problem with Christmas music
in November, you don't actually wish it was Christmas every day?

Speaker 3 (57:25):
So how about that Grinch? Although The Grinch is one
of my favorites, Grench is a banger.

Speaker 4 (57:31):
That's my favorite holiday movie by any stretch of the Imagine.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
It which which version, the Jim Carrey version, the original
animated version, or the Benedict Cumberback version, because they're all
very different.

Speaker 4 (57:41):
I was not unaware that there's a Benedict Cumberbatch version
of The Grinch.

Speaker 3 (57:46):
From a few years ago. Okay out a few years ago.
It's full length movie.

Speaker 9 (57:49):
So actually, actually, Buck, that movie is the one that's
just called The Grinch. So you saying your favorite movie
is The Grinch, you're technically referencing that one because the
real one, the Jim Carrey live action, and is actually
called How the Grinch Stole Christmas?

Speaker 1 (58:03):
Blood pressure the way that marries off my laughter.

Speaker 3 (58:08):
But no, no, no, Buck.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
The thing of it is, though you don't want to
correct this because you got to take right this is
this is one of my I will die.

Speaker 3 (58:14):
On this hill. I will plant this flag.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
Benedet Cumberbatch movie is far better, far better than any
other Grinch movie that's ever been made, including Jim Carrey's
Jim Carrey's Grinch movie. Fine, it's even fine, it's fine,
But the newest animated one is Oh Chef's Kiss.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
It is elite. It is on a different level. It
is playing chess while everybody else is playing checkers.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
Mary, get him what.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
You get?

Speaker 1 (58:42):
Fine, finally we're back on the same side.

Speaker 3 (58:46):
That's so disrespectful.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
Yeah, the Jim Carrey Grinch movie is just arguably not good. Like,
shut up, shut up, bro, stop talking Jim Carrey over
I know, shocking Jim Carrey overacting in something, and it's
just such a what do you mean unteracting over acting,
Like Jim Carrey is basically doing ace Ventura in a
Grinch mask, and.

Speaker 9 (59:05):
I don't that's fine. It feels like this should be
some egregious take. But I haven't really like seen that
movie enough times to be that pissed at you for
saying that I know it's correct.

Speaker 4 (59:17):
That he's wrong, and that he's foolish for even uttering
such nonsense into the microphone. In fact, Mary should turn
his microphone off enough of the movie.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
All Jim Carrey is doing is stealing Christmas, all right,
like it did.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
He just kept talking through it.

Speaker 4 (59:34):
No, your microphone's back on, looking at me, show he
doesn't know what to do.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
I'm just saying it should be called how Jim Carrey
stole Christmas? Because he stole all the joy out of
that movie. The movie, the original animated version or the
newest animated version featuring Benedict Cumberbatchet, which is just adorable,
by the.

Speaker 3 (59:50):
Exactly do you want to act? I want to?

Speaker 2 (59:53):
I don't know, like that, like the animated versions, not
like ace Ventura. I don't like Jim Carrey is just
not a good actor. There's nothing about Jim Carrey's It's
fun talk Grady, nothing about nothing about Jim Carrey funny.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
This is on YouTube, all right. It's on Mary, and
it's on Ian.

Speaker 4 (01:00:08):
Because you let him go, and you let him go,
and he keeps pushing it, and he keeps pushing it.
So the fact that we have veered to such an
extreme it's your. You had the power to stop this
and you let it go.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
It's on you.

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
I'm sorry. I've tried. I have tried all of.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
The Jim Carrey movies. I countlessly the number of times
everyone's like, you really go to Troy Dolmandilmer. I'm telling you,
and I've tried it over and over and over again.
The movie is stupid and it's not funny.

Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
It's just I'm I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
My favorite comedy movie is The Hangover, Like, I'll go
into The Hangover all day like that's that's yeah, The
Hanger's my favorite?

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
Lame?

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
How's the Hangover? Lame? Okay, you're just mad that I
don't like.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
Look, Adam Sadler and Jim carry are two people that
are just chronically not funny, and I will I will
die on that hill all day, every.

Speaker 3 (01:00:53):
Day, Mark, Adam Sandler is not funny. Yeah, Adam Sandler,
Oh yeah, b Adams.

Speaker 4 (01:00:58):
Adam Sandler just catching straight in the middle of this again.
You had the power to stop this. He's just gonna
keep going until you cut him off.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Adam Sandler, Jim Carrey not funny. I will die on
that hill all day long, which is as leads. Look,
it means you guys have more tickets to his awful
movies that you can go like see on your own.
That's like I have the AMC Movie Pass where I
can go see as many movies free as I want
because I pay the twenty five bucks a month and
there is zero chance that I would sit in the
theater even though it costs me nothing. Does he Adam

(01:01:25):
Sandler or Jim Carrey in anything. They're just not funny.
They're not funny, Martin, save me at this point. Come on,
feel free to make it stop.

Speaker 6 (01:01:34):
You know what, I just have to say. I've listened
to you guys show now for like eight or nine weeks,
never heard fits more passionate about anything than anybody was
over the last five minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:01:45):
Say Christmas Baby doesn't make him right? I'm loud.

Speaker 6 (01:01:49):
I will also say this, and I don't know if
this is in your defense or night. I watched a
Christmas Carol a couple of days ago. It had Jim
Carrey in it, the two thousand and nine version terrible.
That might be the worst we have I've ever seen,
And the whole thing was a video game cut the
cut scene.

Speaker 8 (01:02:06):
I hated it. I hated every part of it. Don't
watch it.

Speaker 6 (01:02:09):
If you're interested in watching it, because, like in reality today,
the games in college football have not been like, Babe,
we can't watch this Christmas movie because we got to
watch this really close football game. None of those arguments
are winning twenty eight to seven Georgia over Alabama. The
third ranked Georgia Bulldogs will advance to twelve and one.

Speaker 8 (01:02:28):
After beating Alabama.

Speaker 6 (01:02:30):
Johnnerstock the three touchdown passes, you only had six incompletions
on the day.

Speaker 8 (01:02:33):
That's pretty good.

Speaker 6 (01:02:34):
Nate Fraser had a rushing touchdown, Zach Branch had a touchdown.
The leading rush for Alabama had eleven yards, so that
that's kind of how things were going for Alabama in
this game.

Speaker 8 (01:02:45):
It's kind of.

Speaker 6 (01:02:46):
Same story for Texas Tech over byu BWA. You turn
the ball over a million times in a thirty four
to seven blowout for the Red Raiders, who have likely
secured a buy in the upcoming college football playoff. Penn
State hires Iowa States Matt Campbell an eight year deal.
Before that, Campbell was the winningest coach in cyclone's history
and men's college basketball. Iowa State lost to coach, but

(01:03:08):
won the game. Tenth ranked Iowa State beat Perdue eighty
one to fifty eight. It's the worst home lost ever
for a number one ranked team. Fourth ranked Duke beat
seventhrank Michigan State sixty six to sixty Sixth rank Louisville
beat twenty second ranked Indiana eighty seven to two.

Speaker 8 (01:03:22):
Seventy eight. Michigan beat Rutgers by forty.

Speaker 6 (01:03:25):
The third ranked the Wolverines undefeated, still on the I'm sorry,
third ranked Wolverines have beaten Rutgers by like, oh my goodness,
I just had it and it went away, you know what.
Let's move on to the NFL. The Chargers running back
on Marion Hampton. He's expected to return Monday night, Monday
Night Football against the Eagles.

Speaker 8 (01:03:42):
He got her early in the season.

Speaker 6 (01:03:43):
As teams been waiting for his return, they were starting
to practice squad guys like Carmine Vidal in his place,
fellas as Gunner Stockton holds the ICC Championship trophy with
a big smile on his face.

Speaker 8 (01:03:53):
I kick it back to you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
He's buck rising up. Jason fitz bucking fits on Fox
Sports Radio. Is Cato Boor on the hot seat? Feels
like a crazy question to ask, but we all know
the expectations at Alabama, right or wrong?

Speaker 3 (01:04:08):
Right? And I think there's a.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
Cautionary tale to be told in the fact that Penn
State fired James Franklin before anybody else was fired, and
then it took how long to turn around, Like if
you look at the recruiting class for Penn State, this
has just been absolutely an abject disaster. Now, I think
getting Matt Campbell from Iowa State turned out to be
a little bit of a coup for them, a big
git for Penn State. So maybe it works out in
me and I feel better about it today than I

(01:04:31):
did a couple of days ago.

Speaker 3 (01:04:32):
But I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
I mean, I wondered if Kaylen de Bor if Alabama
got roasted in this game. I wonder if Kaylen I
had wondered if Kaylyn de Bor would maybe even look
at the Penn State job, just because it feels like
every time he loses a game, Betty from Tuscaloos is
trying to win the lottery to get his buyout. Like
this is a twenty eight to seven game where Georgia
had the ball, probably could have tried to score again
it chose to take a knee. So I don't know, Buck,

(01:04:54):
do you think that there is some world where Kaylen
de Bor should be worried.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
Yes, I mean it's in that job.

Speaker 4 (01:05:02):
I feel like you constantly have to be worried about
your job security. Whether that's realistic in the modern era
of college football where teams are just inexperienced setbacks yere
overy year, you're going to spend money in the portal.
It's not going to work out for everybody every year
the way that it did for Texas Tech this year. Right,
Texas Tech rolled BYU today. They spent an outrageous amount

(01:05:23):
of money in the transfer portal this pass offseason. Florida
State did that a couple of years ago. It blew
up in their faces, right, So there's just there's going
to be some of these moments. And honestly, Kaylan de
Bores kind of held held the line pretty well. I mean,
the way that they lost to a bad Florida State
team earlier in the season, those questions at the time

(01:05:43):
were fair, and I think it was okay to start
the dialogue them getting smacked by Georgia in the SEC
championship game. There's not going to be context and nuance
in the state of Alabama about this conversation. But Kaylan,
if I'm not mistaken that game was at Athens this year,

(01:06:04):
and Alabama went to.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
Georgia and won.

Speaker 4 (01:06:07):
Yes, that's not something I think most people expected to happen. Again,
this is his first loss to Kirby Smart. Now it
comes in a critical spot, right they're the ninth ranked
team in the country currently, we do not have the
next college footballlayoff.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
We get the College football Playoff.

Speaker 4 (01:06:21):
Final selections right this coming Tuesday, and we'll see how
far this is going to drop them down.

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
To Fitz's point earlier in the show, we.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
Get them tomorrow, they'll come out. Oh we got them tomorrow, Yeah,
tomorrow afternoon.

Speaker 4 (01:06:33):
Well, I'm not going to see them until I'm done
covering Titans Browns, I guess. But I'm sure i'll you know,
I'm sure I'll be paying attention sitting in the press
box because the football will be so terrible. I am
fascinated to see how the committee drops them, if that
touchdown actually matters in a consequential way, or if groupthink
is enough to keep Alabama down, or if group think

(01:06:53):
is enough to keep Alabama alive in this situation, there's
so many different ways that this could go. We still
have Indiana and Ohio State play out. We still have
the a SEC Championship game to play out, and there's
two playoff spots left on the line. But Alabama, Yeah,
I mean I think I think it's more likely than
not that they get left out.

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
And if they get.

Speaker 4 (01:07:11):
Left out for a second consecutive year, then it I mean,
I don't know, is it fair to have that kind
of standard, that kind of expectation at Alabama of Kaylin
de boor?

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
I do think so?

Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
Yeah, I think you know what you're signing up for.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
And this is where we always say, you know, you
don't want to be the man that replaces the man,
but that's just inevitable.

Speaker 4 (01:07:29):
So and he's done a pretty damn good job. Like
I'm not like no moral victories or whatever, but like
it could be a lot worse. It could be so
much worse at Alabama replacing Nick Saban. And I think
he's done a decent job. But decent's not enough.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
There, right, Yeah, that's the problem.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
And this is why you know, I found myself yelling
and screaming into the wind like an old man about
Lane Kiffen and his decision. However he came about it
to move to LSU. He's like Okay, well, understand that,
as we've talked about on the show, if Layton has
the exact same season he had at all Miss, he's
get fired.

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
So you know, if you're Kaylen Dbor, the minute you
left Washington to take this job, you understood exactly what
the expectation was going to be.

Speaker 3 (01:08:06):
And you know, frankly, one thing.

Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
That we undervalued was the greatness of Nick Saban, as
weird as that sounds, and I say that because so
many people thought, well, he's the rainy coach of the
year and he's going to slide internet.

Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
We'll replace saved and it will be fine. Saban was legendary.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
For a reason, right, and Kaylen de Boor was very
very good for a reason. Very very good isn't legendary.
So that little extra edge that is the reason that
Alabama just dominated for the entire generation is impossible to recreate.
And it wasn't Alabama that gave that edge, it was
Nick Saban. And so now you have a coach that's
doing a very good job. And I think, you know,
I would categorize the Kaylendbor era at Alabama is an

(01:08:47):
unqualified success. Like it there's no qualifying there's no ways
that I'm trying to hold that in.

Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
It's been wildly successful.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
I think it just hasn't resulted in playoffs, and sometimes
that happens. That's just the sort of the way the
crookie crumbles, right. So what gets really tough for me
in this situation is I don't think there's any world
where Kaylen Debor should be on the hot seat. I
do think that people are just crazy enough when it
comes to Bama fans that you never know and boosters
in the modern college football world are just crazy enough.

(01:09:17):
Like it is certainly fair to say, whatever happens for
Alabama tomorrow, they're probably still going to end up in
the College Football Playoff.

Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
I think that trash.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
Touchdown that made this game a little bit closer helps
them enough. It justifies them staying into the College Football
Playoff if they miss the College Football Playoff.

Speaker 3 (01:09:31):
Hell, even if they make it and they lose them
the first round.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
When you start talking about the momentum and the conversation
and the way different programs are perceived going in next year,
I mean, it's hard to see Alabama with a lot
of momentum compared to what we're seeing from everybody else.

Speaker 4 (01:09:46):
That's not fair. It's just sort of the way it's perceived. No,
but it's real. I mean that matters.

Speaker 3 (01:09:51):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:09:52):
We haven't talked about Vandy on the Fox Show since
you and I have obviously you've been on the local
show with me in nash Phill, but we have not
talked about Vanderbilt one whoop.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
I mean we did.

Speaker 4 (01:10:04):
I guess we got the end of that game, Vandy
whooping the snot out of Tennessee in Knoxville in the
biggest game in that rivalry's history, and then turning around
and flipping a five star quarterback commit from Georgia to Vanderbilt.
He's a Nashville kid, but for Vandy, it's the most
talented recruit in the history of Vanderbilt football. Jared Curtis

(01:10:26):
just committed to Vanderbilt, and that momentum has continued to shift.
They started flipping wide receivers. Now was a three star kid.
I can't remember the name off off the top of
my head, but he's committed to Alabama.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
All of a sudden, he's committing to Vandy.

Speaker 4 (01:10:36):
Like this is a thing that matters momentum into the
off season, right, I know, for Vanderbilt we still have
and for many other programs we have bold season the playoffs.
So we're not quite in the off season yet, but
we understand that National Signing Day was this past week,
that the transfer portal will soon be upon us and
it will recall manner of havoc, and it is critical
to capitalize on whatever momentum that might be, even if

(01:10:57):
it's just optical, that can swing things in the direction
for a program for at least a year to come.
I don't know how sustainable that is moving forward. I
think you have to do it basically every season. I'm
sure you would argue, but that is a real thing.
Alabama cannot afford to take a step back.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
Yeah, And it's just weird because I thought that the
playoffs would create more patients with coaches. Honestly, my concept being, Okay,
as long as you're making the playoffs, think about the
NFL model. As long as you're making the playoffs in
the NFL, you're not likely to be fired, right, That's
just it rarely happens that it coaches. You know, I
have coaches to the Wildcard of the playoffs six straight years,

(01:11:37):
and all of a sudden.

Speaker 3 (01:11:38):
I get fired. Like that's a rarity.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
So I thought that it might buy more time, and
instead it just it just hasn't. I think it changes
for certain programs. It's just that's never going to be enough.
So even making the playoffs isn't going to be enough
for killing to boor. But certainly with that line being
the line in the sand now and with the perception
that there's no way if you're a Bama fan or
a Bama booster, even more importantly, if you're the Buddy

(01:12:01):
Garrity of Alabama football, there is no world where you
think that you are paying all that money to a
football program for it to be the thirteenth best or
the fourteenth best, not be in that conversation every single year.
So it's weird to say I think this season was
a real success. It has been a real success for Alabama. Again,
I think getting to twenty eight to seven as the
final score, getting that trash touchdown.

Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
Is enough to at least give everybody a reason to
keep them in. But man, if you.

Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
Are Alabama right now, you're at least nervous. You are
at least nervous about what's going to happen. From the
College Football Committee that sat there and watched it together again,
knowing that there are gonna be a couple of big
thieves coming in.

Speaker 3 (01:12:38):
We'll keep you updated.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
We're almost to the number one versus number two team
in all the land. That's right, the Big Ten Championship
game is actually happening tonight. So I just want to
remind everybody that the actual one v two matchup that
nobody's talking about the same as Ohio State versus Indiana.
But in the meantime, coming up next, it is time
for the single greatest game show in the history of
sports talk radio. Would you rather coming up next on

(01:13:02):
bucket Fits on Fox Sports Radio, He's buck Rising. I'm
Jason Fitts bucket Fits on Fox Sports Radio, hanging out
with you.

Speaker 3 (01:13:12):
I don't know what the hell we're doing. You know
what we're doing.

Speaker 4 (01:13:14):
Christmas whispering centrally to Mariah Carey in the middle of
that really is whispering centrally into my ear via Mariah Carey.

Speaker 1 (01:13:23):
It was unpleasant.

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
Mariah is the vessel that leads my whispers to your ears.

Speaker 3 (01:13:27):
There we go.

Speaker 4 (01:13:28):
I uh, I can we go to one show without
me feeling violated?

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
Well, I mean, you got a lot of rules there's
a lot of guardrails up now all of a sudden.
You know, once, once, once, see Buck came into this
school year feeling like he was the bad boy on
the block and he could just say whatever he wants,
do whatever he wants, and then he ran.

Speaker 3 (01:13:51):
The halls of this place.

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
But you know what's happened is there's been a little uprising,
and over time I think maybe Mary and I and
have figured out like there's you know, a little push
back to the bulley on the block, and that's all
that's happening.

Speaker 3 (01:14:02):
Buck. It's just just a little pushback, right, We're no
bite he is. He is all talking, no bite.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
If there's ever been a celebrity that needs handlers to
do his work for him, it's definitely Buck.

Speaker 3 (01:14:13):
Right, Like Buck's.

Speaker 2 (01:14:14):
Sending somebody down the library and he's like, well, I mean,
if he ever.

Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
Got excuse you.

Speaker 4 (01:14:25):
Say it with your chest one time again, unbelievable rising
is not a celebrity that is. I will not stand
for this blasphemy. I am absolutely every bit the Dalas celebrity.

Speaker 1 (01:14:37):
I think I am back off.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
I want Buck to go into the bar where he's
gonna go in Cleveland tonight. And walk in and in
my mind, it's gonna be packed wall to wall. There's
gonna be Christmas to core up, Christmas music on the speakers,
the football game block by Garland. And as he goes
to sit at the bar and there's no seats, he's
gonna look around and say, yeah, I'm Buck Rising, I
need a seat, and they're all just gonna look at

(01:15:01):
him and blankly, and someone's gonna turn.

Speaker 3 (01:15:03):
Mariah back up.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
That's what I need to have happened. Oh, it's gonna
be delightful. He's gonna be sipping on eggnog. Oh, never
on sad eggnog. Watched the Big Ten championship game with
a tequila soda on the side. All right, on that
note book, it's time for the single greatest game show
in the history of radio.

Speaker 3 (01:15:22):
Are you ready for it? Are you ready for this?

Speaker 8 (01:15:24):
Yes, here we go.

Speaker 3 (01:15:25):
It's time for wood.

Speaker 1 (01:15:28):
You real bad, so bad.

Speaker 8 (01:15:35):
I don't know what are doing anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:15:39):
It's his fault. Though he slowed down. I was ready.
Everything's always. Actually, I'm proud of you guys for taking accountability.
You just policed yourselves there. You knew it was bad.
I didn't have to say anything. We can move on
to the segment.

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
We need to have Bucks Mom come on one time
and just find out if he was this like displacement
of personal responsibility as a tip stamn wheel.

Speaker 3 (01:16:00):
So help me, God, he give us the wood.

Speaker 4 (01:16:04):
I'm gonna have time for one, so spend thirty minutes
playing Mariah Carey.

Speaker 9 (01:16:08):
All right, this is a good one here. Would you
rather have your radio partner's name tattooed on your forehead
so fits that would be Buck's name, and for for
Buck that would be fits his name, or have no
front teeth?

Speaker 1 (01:16:20):
Oh, oh my god, that's such an awful one.

Speaker 4 (01:16:25):
I think I would rather have that, Like I yeah,
because again the d Liss celebrity ego would make me
in just enraged if somebody thought that I was fits
and that's why I had the tattoo on my forehead.

Speaker 1 (01:16:39):
At least I could get veneers or denuers.

Speaker 4 (01:16:41):
If I didn't have front teeth, I could I could
make it up with fake teeth and just look like
Rex Ryan.

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
I'll take the fake teeth just because that's a good
party trick, right, And uh, I don't want bucks name tattooed.
I'd get like you know, right, situation might get a
buck tramp stamp, but I'm definitely not getting that on
my forehead.

Speaker 3 (01:16:57):
What do we got next? Fuck tramps?

Speaker 1 (01:17:00):
I hold you to that super Bowl. It's not that
far away, Bud.

Speaker 9 (01:17:05):
Yeah, we gotta do like a super Bowl bet and
whoever loses us to get a tramp stamp of the
others Jesus.

Speaker 3 (01:17:11):
Anyway.

Speaker 9 (01:17:11):
Would you rather eat an entire wet loaf of bread
or drink an entire pint of whipped fish?

Speaker 3 (01:17:18):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:17:18):
I'll eat the loaf of wet bread. That doesn't bother
me too much. I can just I can just like
squeeze that thing out and just haauce it. Yeah, I'm
good with that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:26):
I had this like fish.

Speaker 4 (01:17:29):
It wasn't fish whip, but it was some kind of
like whipped fish dip that was delightful the other day.

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
So I'm gonna go fish for you.

Speaker 4 (01:17:38):
Sounds nasty, but was actually delightful with some with the
right kind of crackers, I'd go with the fish whip.

Speaker 8 (01:17:45):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:17:45):
Can please God give us another one?

Speaker 8 (01:17:48):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
I made you uncomfortable with fish whip.

Speaker 3 (01:17:51):
I'm just you're so fancy.

Speaker 9 (01:17:53):
Okay, guys, would you rather clog the toilet on a
first date or on the first day at a new job.

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
Oh, first d ay and a new job. No, that
would be horrifying.

Speaker 4 (01:18:02):
Can you imagine, Like, especially if you're at your the
the other person's house on a first date and you
clogged the toilet and then you're having to scramble around
or god forbid, like the toilet run over.

Speaker 1 (01:18:13):
Oh no, no no.

Speaker 2 (01:18:14):
For a new job, yeah, one hundred percent new job,
because there's deniability, plausible deniability. I'm I'm blaming unis in
the back. I'm finding the oldest person in the room,
and I'm like, I'm immediately looking around and I'm saying,
she did that to us, Like that's it's never on me.
That's that's my approach. Not that I can't deny anything.
I can't deny it on the date. All right, he's
buck rising up, Jason Viz, Stick Around, Marble Weis Monte

(01:18:36):
Bolangio is.

Speaker 3 (01:18:36):
Coming up next.

Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
Thanks for hanging out with us. Stick Around with Fox
Sports Radio. Ah not long fish Whip

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