FOX Sports Saturday with Hartman and Polynice: 06/29/2019

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us on this fabulous Saturday the time. He could not
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Now let's see here a little more than twenty four
hours away from the official beginning of free agent signings
around the NBA, this is always the time when we
suddenly are hit with stories from every different walk everyone

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that's one of the insiders trying to break news about
this guy going there or interest there, meeting here. And
the one thing we've learned over the years, have you
truly follow NBA free agency? Is that about of all
these stories are false? Uh. These are stories created to
try to you know, you have a boss and they say, hey,

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you know what, what what's the story? Give us something,
all right? And then they hear one little kids about
a story, then they'll throw it out there. But you know,
buying large Old and when we we get to the
actual signings on free agency day, most of these guys
stay home because that's where they can make the most money.
And ultimately, money seems to talk, Oh definitely, And you're right, um,

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you gotta have, like you know, looking at the screen
right now, you gotta have breaking news. And so it's
always but it's not really breaking news. It's just something
to created just for us on the outside to just go,
you know, into a frenzy. But nine times out of ten,
guys usually you know, stay put, and especially the big names,

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because it's more financially lucrative for them to do that,
you know. And so to me, I think only Kyrie
is probably gonna move, but the rest of them, I
think they're gonna stay. Kimball's gonna move. Um is that
because he will not be offered the Supermax deal? Oh no,
Michael's too cheat. Michael Jordan's oh my lord, he's not

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trying to go over that cap. He's gonna be like,
I gotta create a winner, which I can't do unless
I spend money, you know. But he's not willing to
spend money to create a winner. So how can you win?
And that's the problem with them. Charlotte will always be
in that dilemma unless Michael either spends money or sells
a team. All Right, A prime example of a story

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that took root yesterday that most likely is a false
is the Magic Johnson Genie Bus Kawai Leonard meeting. Let's
talk about the origins of this story. So, this story
broke about two thirty yesterday afternoon on the West Coast
that Kawai Leonard was going to meet with the Lakers

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only if the only two representatives for the Lakers were
g E. Bus and Magic Johnson, which of course was
impossible because Magic Johnson doesn't work for the Lakers anymore
and is not permitted in an official fashion to represent
the Lakers. That's the NBA rule. Now, this story essentially

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came from a source who has a source named Maggie Johnson.
And what was interesting in the aftermath of this story
were the comments by Magic Johnson because two people never
acknowledge any validity to this story, Genie Buss or Kawai Leonard.

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So Magic went into great detail how he was flattered
the Kawhi Lennard reached out to him, and how he
would be absolutely willing to meet with him, but I
can't be, you know, in an official capacity, and I
certainly don't want to take anybody's job. So olden you
know Magic a long time. The fact that he actually

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have not heard from Kauai Leonard as far as the
story is concerned, or Genie busts of the Lakers, what
does that tell you? It tells me that this thing
is fabricated. And we were talking about earlier, and I
do believe that. I think worst case scenario or best
case scenario. Rather they called or somebody reached out and said, um,

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are you still part of the Lakers or can you
be involving anything? And that turned into yeah, Kauai wants
me in there. You know, sometimes people just want to
know are you allowed to be part of the meetings
or not? And for the story to be just Magic
and Genie does not make sense because Genie really does

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anything in regards to the team. So what questions can
they answer, you know, and Magic doesn't work for the Lakers,
or what questions can he answer? Because it's you can't
do it by league rule. And so to me, if
Kauai wanted to meet, he would meet with Lebron, probably
meet with Kuzma. He meet with Polinka people that are

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within the organization, and no and the coach as well,
you know, Frank Vogel. He has to be in there
because I gotta play your style. What style are you
gonna run? What style are you playing? That that's conducive
for me? And so to me, it's it's a big fabrication.
And again, you know, people create stories this summer year. Yeah,
and and again. So this is this story. I agree,

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agree with the old and this was Magic Johnson trying
to get back into the news, trying to make noise
about you know, he's the guy that everybody wants to meet.
Nobody wants to meet with Polenka. You know, that backstabber,
that backstabber, that guy Polenka. Nobody wants to meet with Polenka.
If you want to get a major free agent with

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the Lakers, you should have kept me, You should have
get Let me have the power, because I'm the guy
they all want to meet, because I'm Magice. John said
so when he said that he tried to reach out
to Jennie and she wasn't returning his phone calls. Yeah,
I wonder why. She also said at the NBA Awards
when she finally addressed the Magic Johnson issues. She hadn't
even talked to him since he quit. So, look, none

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of this is true. It's yeah, if if the story
had been Kauai wants to know if Kobe can be
in the meeting, I would believe that more. Okay, well, exactly,
all right, So let's let's let's just let's get back
to Kauai Leonard. All right. So I'm seeing the nuance
because as soon as this false story leaked out, suddenly

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everyone's like elevating the Lakers like they're serious about this. Well,
they're not serious about this unless we hear from Kauai,
who has never mentioned the Lakers or anyone representing Kauai,
and even the Lakers official people have not talked about
Kawhi Leonard. Of course they can't officially till free agency begins.

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So here's the reality. As far as Kawai Lennar going
to the Lakers or where he is going to me,
there are two choices. Actually, there would be a third
choice if he were to think about it, but there
are two choices right now realistically for Kawhi Leonard. The
most obvious choices a stay put we talked about this

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last week. Olden. The most obvious choice for Olden is
just a one plus one. What does that do? He
keeps him in Toronto next year with a team that
just won the championship and everyone's under contract, with the
exception of Danny Green, he's replaceable. The one plus one
also elevates him to the next level as far as

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a super Max deal a year from now if he
so chooses to stay in Toronto, but also raises the
amount of money he can make on the free agent
market if he chooses to leave. That's why that scenario
makes so much sense, so much sense. You are absolutely right,
and that's the one I would say if I'm Kawhi Leonard.
But again we have not heard from him and so

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and unfortunately we know Kawhi Leonard. He's not a big talker,
and so everything has to be created because he's not
coming out there and making any kind of statements whatsoever.
He's just going to baseball games, you know, going to
home deepo, getting boxes, which could mean anything. And so
to me, that is the best situation for him. And

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along to the point of the whole magic thing. Now
we have the report that you know he and Katie
May joined together. So now that they can't come to
all come to the Lakers. So it makes no sense.
Kawhi Leonard has to do something Messiah, and that's why
I think he's gonna stay. Massia Hujermmy turned down to

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Washington Wizards, which is gonna be very lucrit for him.
You know, he turned it down. There's a reason why
he turned that down. Marcasol opted in. There's a reason
why he opted in, and so people need to start
looking at facts. And why would Marcus all opt in

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if Kauai was leaving. He had a player option, right,
why would he stay unless Kauai was also going to stay.
Now here's here's what I don't understand. You mentioned the
fact that there are and this is something that we've
been talking about really all season long. The idea of
Kevin Durant and Kawhi Leonard teaming up together with the Clippers. Well,

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they have double max space, they can afford to get
that deal done. There's another team that could afford to
get that done. That would be the New York Knicks.
So I look at it this way. Now, we all
know that Kawhi Leonard has a beautiful home down there.
What Rancho Santa Fe and you just stayed down in
Sandy who is an l A guy and everything else,
everyone's maintained a thousand percenty ones to come from come

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back to l A again. The only guy we haven't
heard that exactly from is oh, I know, Kawhi Leonard. So,
but if you were Kauai LeVert and Kevin Durant and
you teamed up with the Knicks in the East, where
you would I mean just can you imagine the marketing
in New York City of Kawhi Leonard and Kevin Durant

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and if they actually delivered a championship to the Knicks.
I mean, the thing about it is Durant and Leonard
with the Clippers, no matter how good the Clippers are,
are always going to be in the shadow of the
Lakers and Lebron James. Why would they not go to
the Knicks and team up and try to revive an

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organization that is every bit as bad as the Lakers
Because if they did win, their star power will be
far greater winning a championship with the New York Knicks
than it would with the Los Angeles Clippers. Yeah, that's true,
but This is the aspect of the Knicks not having enough.

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I don't believe they have enough firepower to win, you know,
that's just my opinion. Um, even with and you gotta remember,
you're not gonna have to rant for a year minimum,
and so to me, so it's gonna be like Kauai
by himself. What if you get Kyrie to jump in,
you can't have all three? Well, it depends on who

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takes less. And that's why I win this situation now,
because nobody wants to take less. If that was the case,
they would just stay on their teams, take less money,
bringing other players in your own team and and just
locking him and play ball. But that's not the case
for these guys. It's everybody. And granted, I want all

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these players to have the control to do what the
hell they want to do, but sometimes staying put is
your best option. All right. We want to support this
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this beautiful Saturday. It's summertime. I see your Yankees are
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you could say. We're talking about how things change and
yet things stay the same in sports in general. In
the NBA, one of the things they say is new

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is that you gotta have three stars like this, like
this is some recent phenomenon. Let's go back to the
greatest dynasty in NBA history, the Bill Russell Celtics when
he joined the Celtics as a rookie, they had the
two best guards in the NBA. Bob Couzy was the

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best point guard in the NBA and Bill Sharman was
the best to guard in the NBA, by far the
best shooting guard in the league. They were first Team
All NBA four straight years together, the year before Russell
arrived and the first three years Russell was there. He
was also joined as a rookie that year with the

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guy that actually one Rookie of the Year over Russell,
Tommy Heinson, who ended up being a Hall of Fame player.
The a being there is olden is that that Celtic
team was developed from within. Now let's flash forward to
the Golden State Warriors, all right, so that you say, wow,
long ago the nucleus of the Warriors Steph Curry, Clay Thompson,

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Draymond Green, you know the trio that led him to
uh a seventy three win season. So everyone keeps thinking like,
you gotta have these stars, so you gotta bring in
extra guys, you gotta have seven of these three guys.
But if you do look at those teams, the Bulls,
Jordan's and Pippen and Horace Grant. These are all teams

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that we're able to create a trio nucleus, not by
acquiring people on the outside, but by developed them within
the organization exactly. And that's and that's been my point
is the fact that all these teams are developed, and
you know, when the new age of the quick fix

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and you know, the microwavea you know, as fast as
I can get it, Lebron basically started. But then everybody's like, well,
the Big the Big Three. No, he didn't create anything new, Okay,
the only thing, the only difference is he wasn't established superstar,
the face of the league, and he decided to go
join Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh in Miami and that

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was the difference. That was the first time a big
clee was actually created. You know, the quick fix. As
you mentioned, everybody else, they drafted guys went through the pains,
bumps and bruises and became great players. To your point,
like with the Warriors, you know, which is the most
recent Big Three. Steph Curry ankle injuries, first couple of years,

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not getting a lot of minutes sitting behind a c law,
you know, just cheering on Clay Thompson, you know, struggling
to get a shot off. Draymond still trying to fit
in all of a and they went semi three games
because they got better. They went through the bumps and
you know, but Katie had seen the blueprint from Lebron

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and decided he's gonna go join them. But again, this
is nothing new. We've always had big threes, but they
will all developed rather than created. Yeah, I mean when
you broke into the league, the Pistons reigned supreme and
that was also a team that developed from within Isaiah
du Mars. They were homegrown products. They inquired Rodman was
homegrown products. Sally's a lot of these guys, you know.

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And then they would go out. I mean they did
get Lamb beer elsewhere, but you know, he really came
to fruition, so to speak, with the Epistons. And then
they would get it daantly or they get a Mark Aguire.
They'd had a piece um that that still is a
winning formula. And the Warriors proved that. That's how the
Warriors got good. It wasn't because they were good before
they got to Rent. Obviously a lot better since they

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got to wrap. I do want to mention about Kevin
Durant right now, all right, so a lot of people
are a little confused. Durant says he's gonna meet with
four teams, obviously the Warriors, and then he's gonna meet
with the Knicks, the Nets, and the Clippers, all teams
that we have talked about that would be possible landing
spots for Kevin Durant. But are they really remember this?

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He is in line for supermax deal with the Warriors.
If he were to sign a deal with any one
of those other teams, he would leave sixty million dollars
on the table, guaranteed sixty million on the table. So
why is he doing this? My guess, Olden, is that

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since he didn't go through this process when he jumped
shipped from Okac to come to the Warriors, he just
wants some love. He wants to sit down with the
Clippers and have them lather all over. Oh, we'll do
anything for you, Kevin. Then he goes to the Brooklyn Nets.
Can you imagine I'll be And then he goes to
the Knicks. Oh, you you own Manhattan, Katie. He is

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one of those guys I've leave. I don't know Kevin
drama from his very active state on social media. He
seems to be missing that one ingredient. He hasn't gotten
love that he thinks he deserves, and now he's going
to take full advantage of it. Oh definitely. And you know, granted,
you know that's ego right there, because everybody else has

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had it, They've been you know, embrace. But Kevin, you
went through it when you're being recruited for college. So
but I think he wants to taste of it. From
the NBA standpoint, and again, it's just a tough situation
for him because of the injury. But you know, how
many players do you know, you know, with an achilles

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injury that's gonna get a super Max deal. So he's
in a great situation right now. He wants to love
and unfortunately for him, that's also what makes him hard to,
you know, some time to deal with, is the fact
that he lets so many little things get to him.
And that's one of the reasons why he's doing all this. Also,
you know, the media is talking about me. My legacy

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is at stake. Uh. I went to the Warriors. They
will send me three win team. So and I'm doing
it in my whining voice, of course, because that's what
it feels like, you know, But they want me, you know,
I want my own team now so I can prove
that I'm good. No, we know you're good. You are
the greatest players we've ever seen. No one can do

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what you do. Kevin Durant in his situation. I swear Steve,
I am staying put because I can get healthy again.
The money is always gonna be there. I can get
healthy and I can just win titles. That's how you
do your legacy. Now the next thing, Yes, it's a

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big market, but they don't have enough pieces. Even if
you bring Kowai in there, you still don't have enough pieces.
Now you're gonna have. Instead of running with Steph Curry
and Clay Thomps, you're running with Frank niel A Kina
and Dennis Smith. Are you serious? No, I'm not that.
Oh no, I can't do that all right, So here
are the exact numbers. And again when we we talk

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about all these guys joining new teams, Kevin Durant can
be offered a five year, two hundred and twenty one
million dollar max contract with the Warriors, the most that
any other team can offer him, Nick's NAT's Clippers. Anyone
is four years, one hundred and sixty four million, So

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that's one year fifty seven million more dollars. I don't
care how much money you have old fifty seven million guaranteed.
I'm not walking away from it, especially if you're Kevin

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Durant coming off a blown Achilles. We don't know what
kind of player he's gonna be when he comes back.
He's gonna be a hundred percent Is it gonna be
Is it going to be any thing close to what
he was before blowing as a guilt? We don't know.
Hopefully he'll be a great, great elite player. But if
I were Kevin Durant and I got the Warriors offering

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me guaranteed two d one million sight unseen as far
as how he's going to look after this injury, where
do I sign up? Are you kidding me? Fifty seven
million more dollars. I'm not leaving any money on the table.
I'm sorry. You know I've been part of the negotiating
committee for the NBA when I was an active player,
I was, you know, play a rep. The one mancho

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that we have was don't leave money on the table.
Don't give money back. Oh and I'm I got something
so I am so glad. I just I'll set you
up on that one. You are right playing into my wheelhouse.
All right, where did the guy go? Fox Sports Radios?
Dude is Alex Marvez? Gonna check in with him a
little NFL news, But first let's find out what's trending.
And look who is back ass back from his European

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vacation where he dominated the likes of cities of Paris
and London and Barcelona. Where walk the streets of Amsterdam
in the company if some of the most beautiful women
in the entire planet have a gascon's good back, Thank you,
thank you. It was. It was a wild experience. I

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tried living up to your your demands of seeing and
tasting and drinking it all. I think it did so. Yeah,
well we talked a little bit earlier. By the way,
for you, olden, as you have traveled all over the world, Uh,
do you have a fairy for European city? European city
that you like? My favorite? Your favorite European city? Any

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city in Italy? Italy Number one is Remeny, Number two
is Milan. Number three's rong, that's what I want to
hear right there, So Italy stands out and then number
one is Venice number two, so over anything anywhere else interesting? Interesting? Yeah,
I mean, of the of the five cities and countries

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that I visited, I'll say Porto, Portugal was was probably
number one for me. That I mean. It was comfortable.
You could drink some sangori on the river, Kayaking was fun.
The wine tasting was great. Did you see any attractive
women in Amsterdam? Man? Like, it made me feel like
I was back here in Los Angeles or in San Diego,
because you go down the red light district and there

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was there's no such thing as a ten, but these
were all nine. Yeah, no eights, Yeah, no eights. It
was all nines. Unbelievable. It was straight smoke. And and
then they when they saw David Gascon and they're like
talking about I candy, I love his personality. Turned around
real quickly. See what you got in your wallet? It
was wild man. But yeah, thanks for the advice along

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the way, and I certainly lived it up the Louver.
It didn't disappoint now, like you said, Yeah, I could
have spent days in there and still had that. Yeah.
Absolutely all right, well, get us up today. What do
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The Yankees got a two run homer from Aaron Hicks.
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Ladies are at the half right now. It's on FS one.
Sweden and Germany are locked up at one one. Meanwhile,
in the NBA, the athletic reporting in the Golden State
Warriors and Clay Thompson looked to be agreeing on a
deal tomorrow, a max deal for five years and a
hundred ninety million dollars. Keep in mind he does have
a torn a c l Adrian Ward Gronowski reporting Kevin
direct Kawhi Leonard had been talking a little bit of
out of free agent scenario that could see them playing

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at some point in here and the near your future
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The only hard part figuring out which way is easier
in his time, once again to check in with our
Fox Sports Radio NFL inside are the one, the only.
Alex Marvez, Alex always great to catch up with you.
I want to ask you right at the top about
Tyreek Hill and the aftermath of his meeting with the NFL.
To me, this is a carbon copy of the Ezekiel

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Elliott he said, She said, but there's some baggage that
ended up having him serve a six game suspension. What
are your thoughts right now now on what the NFL
is going to decide as the fate for Tyreek Hill,
you know, echoing some reports that we saw in for
Yahoo Sports and also be Athletic, I don't think Tyreek
Hill is going to serve as much time as we

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initially thought. And some of this simply is a lack
of I don't want to say evidence if you will,
but there isn't the type of documentation apparently available for
the NFL when it comes as they can't force like
they can't subpoena Tyreek Hill, and if the police doesn't
want to turn over things as far as an investigation
goes of a young child, there's only so much that
the NFL has to work with here. Now. I do

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still think there's going to be a suspension. I've been
told by people that I trust it and listen, they
don't have a dog in this fight. Let me just
put it like that. But they're saying that maybe the
way that this has been portrayed and the way tyreek
Hill has been portrayed has not been on precent accurate,
and they're not being apologetic. There's no excuse for the
audio of him threatening his Beyonce. I get that, But
when it comes to the subjects of child abuse and

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things like that, apparently that some of the things that
are out there are just this narrative is not completely accurate.
That being said at the NFL. From the conversations, I
really do believe not only is tyreek Hill going to
get off relatively light, I would not be surprised at
all if the Chiefs end up signing him to a
contract extension that is covered in clauses. In other words,
tyreek Hill is going to have to stay on the

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straight and narrow in the future. No more excuses for
things that happened in his life. He's got to get
it together. Guys. I'm not passing judgment. I'm not saying
this is right or this is wrong, but that is
my understanding of what's going on with Tyreek Hill. His
future looks a lot brighter than it did when the
story broken. Mark see I I feel like the NFL
owes the Chiefs one for how the Kareem Hunt's situation
went down. You know, the Chief's release Hunt really under

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public pressure. You can't keep this guy. There's video he
kicks a woman juine she's down, and then he turns
around and signs on with the Cleveland Browns. And I
and again, I think the NFL mishandled the Kareem Hunt
situation to the detriment of the chief So I agree
with you. I think they owe him one. I mean,
I'm not saying that he gets away scott free, but
I would agree. I think that maybe the penal will

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be less. I'm gonna get some heat for it, that's
for sure. But I mean, how do you feel? I mean,
I I really felt the NFL forced the Chiefs to
do what they did with Kareem Hunt and then allow
the Browns to steal him a twenty three year old
running bag. To me, it just smelled bad. Well, a
couple of things about it. You remember, everyone had a
chance to sign Kareem Hunt. No one claimed him off

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the waivers, right, so the Browns and their former the
guy who drafted him, John Dorsey, writes the general manager
willing to give the guy a chance. Now, from what
my understanding was, while the act itself was was obviously terrible, that,
you know, kicking a woman the way that he did,
you know, this wasn't a couple of things about this.
Number one, this wasn't and I hate having to use
a sliding scale here, but this wasn't ray Rice cold

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cocking his fiance and an elevator. This was someone who
basically took a good who had a shot at a
woman who was down, Whoch got sort of tossed down,
and he ends up shoving her over with his foot.
I mean, you know, if it looked in retrospect compared
to ray Rice, that wasn't as terrible. It's still that
trust me. I get that. But in the case of
the Chiefs, their situation when Kareem Hunt was this, he
lied to him, He lied that the video even existed.

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They lost trust in Kareem Hunt. They don't feel the
same about Tyreek Hill. They feel that Tyreek Hill has
been forthright in answering their questions. They may not like
the answers, but at least they feel that. And listen,
the Chiefs did this to themselves with Kareem Hunt. If
they would have stashed him on the commissioner's example is
suspended him from the team and just said we're gonna
wait before making a decision whether we want him on
our team. He would still be with the Kansas City

(29:38):
Chiefs today, he'd be serving that a game suspension, but
instead they wanted to move on and we'll see Cleveland's
going to reap the reward of it. I think that's
another reason too. You didn't see the knee jerk from
the Kansas City Chiefs when all this stuff first came
out on Tyreek Hill. They wanted us to play out
a little bit because and look, if it's a lesser player,
you know, he's not on the roster, but he's Tyreek Hill,
one of the most dynamic players in football. And without
Tyreek Hill, I don't know if the Kansas did he

(30:00):
Chiefs to make a Super Bowl. Hey, Alex Olden here,
my question is, I don't know, im. I just want
to get your take on this. Like with Tyree, Kareem
and all these guys the NFL, you know, they mantras,
you know, protect the shield, you know, with um what's
his name from the Seattle tea from Seahawks Malik McDowell

(30:22):
his situation coming up right now? What is it about?
And I hate to say like NFL players, but it
just seems that I see more of this doing the
offseason with the NFL more than any other sport. What
is it about this whole situation in the NFL that
there's always legal issues? Well, I think you know you've
got two thousand players, right and older and looking. You know,

(30:44):
as a player, you don't want to be broad Druggs, right,
I mean you live life like most almost everyone that
you played with did, right, I mean guys didn't get
into trouble, etcetera. I think in the NFL just the
volume of players and a lot of times places where
they come from. How do they handle money, how do
they hander anger and anger management issues? Is alcohol involved?
Things like this that may trigger certain types of behaviors.

(31:05):
I get it, you know why it happens, and we
give a lot of attention to that. But I think
the numbers are way down now as far as off
field issues deal with NFL players, it is it is
dropped sharp way. I just remember two thousand five, two
thousand six, You know when Pact and Jones was on
his one man crime spree, and you had just, you know,
like every Bengal was getting arrested a team like, you know,
weeks a week. I mean, it just seemed to be

(31:27):
a lot more prevalent then. I think that some of
these you know, I think what helped a lot, quite
honestly is Uber. I really do Uber and car services.
I think that the NFL has really bought its players,
you know, not to drink and drive and take those steps,
which always going to have people that don't follow the rules,
and depending upon how talented you are, how many extra
chances you get. And you mentioned Mollik McDowell. This guy
from the get go has been a disaster for the

(31:47):
Seattle Seahawks. They ended up cutting him, never played it
down for him as a second round pick, and that
was really brutal. And it doesn't seem like his life
is in order at all. He's gotten arrested several times,
and he's been in the NFL so for some serious
injuries and an RV accident that left to him not
being able to play again. And old, I'll be honest
with you, I doubt we ever seen the lick mc
dowell on an NFL field. Meanwhile, there was another casualty here,
and that was Kevin Kitzman over there, talk show host

(32:10):
in Kansas City, been there for a number of years.
He lost his job when he said about Andy Reid
that he's not good at fixing people and that a
lot of things go bad on him, family and players. Now,
he didn't talk anything specific about his family, of course,
the tragic passing of his son from a drug overdose.
But the guy paid the price with his job. You know,

(32:31):
we're we're in a business, and you know, I've been
doing this for thirty years, Alex, and you know, you
get heat sometimes from what you say. You sort of
have a an inner idea of how far you can
push certain things. But I just want to get your
general impression of a certain level of sensitivity social media
and how things. I mean, he came out with a

(32:53):
full apology for something. Frankly, I don't think he went
how to apologize for, and he still lost his job.
What's your take on all that? Yeah, I remember it's
not done in a vacuum. If he's commenting, let's say,
on on a player in New England, okay, and he's
talking something about Tom blady or something. Do you see
what I'm saying? Something comfortable outside of his home market.
That's one thing. And remember you're that employer A ten

(33:16):
in Kansas City, that radio station, they do business with
the chiefs, and you know, the chiefs aren't going to
be too happy when someone they're doing business with, you know,
has an employee that says things like this. And I
think too there there's a lot of people who really
love Andy Reid because he is an extremely nice guy,
and he's been a nice guy, you know, you know,
and to compare the death of his son to the
handling of the Tyreek kill thing. You know, listen, you

(33:38):
have the right to say whatever you want. We're still
a free country, at least for right now. But there
are ramifications, some science for what you say. And if
sponsors are leaning on him, if the radio station is
leaning on him, that people are about to cost that
station money. This guy is not going to stay employed.
That's clearly what happened. We'll see if you can get
another job in the market, and maybe there'll be some
support for him because people say, hey, he should say
what he wants. Maybe he's one too something there. But

(33:59):
remember it's a lot of outside pressure as well. When
it comes to what you can say and what you
can't say. It's free speech, but only to a point.
I think when you work for a company, that's the
line with the team that you're talking about. Yeah, you
just have to you have to understand that. I mean,
sometimes you're tempted to say things. Maybe you're trying to
be creative, and the way you say it, that's the
way I took what he was trying to do. I
knew what he meant. He was trying to be creative,

(34:20):
and the way he said it. He didn't want to
overly offend anyone. He wanted to point out what he
thought a lot of people were thinking. But in this
day and age, just don't say it that that that's
the role right there. This is a man. Of course,
they will never have that problem because he will only
give us the most accurate information pertaining to the National
Football League. Along would be in the greatest budding superstar

(34:41):
and wrestling announcing history, the Great Alex Marvez. Alex, have
a great week. We'll talk to you next Saturday. Thank you.
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(35:02):
is the great Alex Marvez our Fox Sports Radio NFL Insider.
All right, now, you mentioned a little bit earlier Olden
about giving money back, that this is priority one and
the Players Association do not give money back. Somebody did
to his own detriment. We're gonna find out what Olden says.

(35:25):
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(35:46):
on this Saturday. Yeah, Tomorrow's the day free agency will begin. Uh.
Don't expect a lot of activity tomorrow. I mean, one
thing we know that's going to happen tomorrow is Clay
Thompson signy is one million dollar extension to stay with
the Warriors. That's gonna be a done deal. But outside
of that, there's going to be a little waiting because

(36:08):
as far as we know, uh, the Lakers, well Kawai
Leonard in general, is not gonna do any of his
meetings until sometime next week. It's not gonna not gonna
wait two weeks. But let's say by the fourth of
July Thursday, well, we'll have a better idea. Um. Speaking
of the Lakers old and this week, the Lakers, in
order to really finalize the Anthony Davis deal, traded the

(36:32):
last three players they had on the roster, along with
a future second round pick, to the Wizards to complete
a three team deal. So essentially, the Lakers traded ten
players ten for Anthony Davis, six players and four draft
picks to get Anthony Davis, but that still wasn't enough

(36:56):
for them to get the max space. Anthony Davis had
to agree to wave the four million dollar trade clause
in his contract, and apparently he was willing to do that. Now.
You mentioned earlier how the Players Association is adamant with
their players do not give money back. That was ringing

(37:18):
in my ear for months when people have kept saying
would Anthony Davis give this money back, and I said
not unless he really wants to piss some people off
with the Players Association. Now you can say, well, he'll
make that four million back in a blink of an eye.
I don't think that's the case, or maybe it is.
So explain to me why he did it, and what
are the ramifications from the Players Association that he would

(37:41):
give money back. Well, everybody is upset about it because
that again, you don't give money back. You know. It's
the Lakers. I have a gentle magic. Rob Pelinka kind
of messed up a little bit. He should have known
the rules, but he didn't. And so now you're gonna
ask the player to to help you out. It doesn't

(38:02):
work that way because flip the script a little bit.
You know, ten years from now, Anthony Davis is not
producing and all that. Are you gonna give him four
million dollars back. No, you're gotta get rid of him.
You gonna say thank you for your services, goodbye. And
so it doesn't always work that way. It's always a
player is giving something and that's what we're trying, you know,
We've always tried to to not have you know, because

(38:24):
at the end of the day, This is all short term,
relatively speaking. You know, if you're a doctor, you can
be adopted to your like you know, like you that father.
But after a while you become a retired basketball player
and so to me get all your money and so.
But the ramifications is it helps the Lakers now because

(38:46):
it clears up Max space. But I think he's gonna
get his money back from space damp first. All right, well,
but again, but the point is now the president has
been set right now, if Anthony Davis is giving back money,
how about you you want to give some money back
to help the team. I remember a conversation I have

(39:06):
with Kobe a few years ago, you know, after Lebron
agreed to essentially take less. Remember he Bosch and d Way,
we're all making the exact same salary to make it
work in Miami. And I asked Magic one time, would
you ever take I mean, Kobe, would you ever take
less money to clear cap space? And he had a
very short answer. He said, that's not my problem. The

(39:29):
answer is no, No, I am not going to give
back one cent. Would I take one cent less than
my value? You guys are in a position, as general
manages to make the best decision for the team financially
and otherwise. And so you have to know the ramifications
of every deal. Why do you why are you expecting players,

(39:54):
you know, to to help you and save you from yourself.
That's not a John and Kobe was absol right. It's
not the players job to make your life easier. Right, Yeah,
And like you said, the polite guy, he just messed
up ten for one, a ten for one trade for

(40:14):
Anthony Davis. He's he's got a deliver championship. Ten for one.
That's what it is. Six players, four draft picks. That's
ten players for one. All right, we're in the guy
Go Fox Sports Radio Studios. Now Olden Poulines has a
passion for the Yankees. Why are they in London playing

(40:36):
the Red Sox? The dilemma for baseball coming up next?
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(40:58):
celebration on the four with the July holiday? Older? Is
that a Polonie Big Day. Not really, no, I just
you know, chill. Don't you live near the beach though, yes,
but you have a fire you see the fireworks. I
see the fire I also I have a house in
Stevenson Ranch. I usually go up there because there's a
big fireworks let's play out there. So I usually spend

(41:19):
the time out there. But now that your kids are
getting older, they're doing their own thing, right. Yeah, they're
not into all that stuff anyway. Now if it's food,
they want to do that. Well, I mentioned that it's
it's my birthday is the fourth of July, and so
but my kids now it's it's great. Like I was like, oh,
I get the day off. Great fourth of July. One.
The good thing about you know, birthdays usually get a

(41:41):
day off. So I'm like when my kids and like,
my my oldest son's like, well Dad, I'm working all
damn out there at the Paradise Cove. And then my
younger son's like, oh, I'm at the Dodger game that day.
My daughter's like I'm busy, and I'm like, okay, so
much for that. That's what happens. That's what happens. That's okay.
Everyone's got their own play ants. What do you what

(42:02):
do you got? What's going on? Can you relate to
that Tom Cruise movie? Then born on the fourth of July?
Connection there well, absolutely no good movie. Excellent Yankee dood
old Dandy. Of course I shared my birthday with my
former boss, Al Davis Al Davis when I worked for
the Raiders as the fourth of July baby, so Todd
Marinovich another fourth of July, Guy Horace and Harvey Grant

(42:24):
fourth of July. So there are a lot of guys
born on the fourth good day. One thing good thing
about having your birthday on the fourth of July. It's
an easy day to remember, you know. It's just name
any outside of Sinko to Maya. Never name any other
holiday that's known by the date. You have to share
it your birthday with the patriotic holiday. People kind of overlook, well, uh,
a little bit, my family does because of all the

(42:45):
Fourth of July stuff. But here's the thing. When I
was a little kid, I thought the whole the whole
country was celebrating my birthday. I'm like, how cool is
this fireworks from my birthday? I guess that's how you
look at it. Right, yeah. Yeah, So I then I
found out is actually sharing the birthday with our country,
you know, which is sort of cool. All right, um,

(43:05):
right now, as we are looking at the Yankees Red Sox,
by the way, this game is tied six six in
the first inning, right now, Okay, So what happened is
they're playing in a baseball park where like the outfit
is like threet to the outfite to the fences. Everyone
is just bashing the ball out. They're making a mockery

(43:29):
a baseball to have a baseball game in this ballpark.
This game could end up becoming the highest scoring game ever.
It is six six and we're in the first inning. Okay,
So my bigger question here, Olden is you've got the

(43:50):
New York Yankees and the Boston Red Sox to the
absolute elite franchises in baseball. You have Yankee Stadium, New
Yankee Stadium, I've been there, and legendary Fenway Why why
would you waste games at either Yankee Stadium or Fenway

(44:15):
Park to play in some little league field in London, England?
What exactly is the purpose of this series between the
Red Sox and the Yankees in London, England? I'm just
as amazed with this as you are. I mean, I

(44:37):
understand when the NFL did it with football, but it's like,
and we've done it with basketball going overseas, but I mean,
baseball is what they growing the global I don't get
this whole thing. And like you said to the point
about the stadium, it's you right, this may go down

(44:58):
as the highest scoring game ever with runs already. And yeah,
they were talking about the shortest dimensions ever in a
ballpark to center field. It's like three seventy dead center.
That is ridiculous, a right, especially with everyone's swinging for
the fences. But this brings up a bigger thing that
I cannot understand. You talked about sports in general, old

(45:20):
and this this fascination with London, I don't get it.
First of all, did you wear with Lou Williams said
about playing in Toronto? Yes, you're what he said. He said,
you know, do we have that sound? Guys? Do you
have any of that sound of Lou Williams talking about Toronto.
If you don't have a don't worry about it because
I can tell you what he basically said. But if

(45:41):
you do have the sign, I would love to hear
it because it's interesting. Took it well. No, but here's
what he did say. He basically said that you know
you get there. It's beautiful. I mean, oh man, this
is great. And not only are you okay you're searching
for it, but if that, not only do you have Ronny,
you have a whole country rooting for you, like you

(46:02):
own the whole country. But he also said, after about
three or four months, you do have it somewhere, alright
thirty seconds alright. So but again, once you do have it,
here it is. This was Lou Williams once again, sixth
Man of the Year in the NBA. Is there really so?
On the No Chill podcast, here's what he had to

(46:23):
say about playing in Toronto. Once you're there, you love
playing for the Raptors, You love playing for the for
the country because it's the whole country. It's the whole country.
Like that fourth fifth month into the season, you're like, man,
I want to go home. When you play in Toronto,
you feel like you're playing overseas. We can't wait to
go on the road sometimes just to be in America

(46:45):
a little You don't think of like the channels on
your TV phone bill. You gotta get you gotta get
a Canadian bank account like that. It is hard. And
then you have kids. You you're raising your kids out
of in Canada. Once you're there, you're like, oh, this
is dope, but the hard part is keeping guys dude. Alright,
So but understand also the tax ramifications. When you play

(47:07):
in a country that has nationalized healthcare, you're paying higher taxes.
Somebody has to pay for the healthcare, right, So if
you play in Canada, you are paying fifercent higher federal taxes.
Then you are playing in the United States. Same thing.
In London they have the same high tax rate. And

(47:29):
if you're you know, if you're an NBA player, you're
at the top of the tax bracket, not to mention
all the other taxes that are you know, siphoned off
your city tax. And you know, I mean, I can't
even imagine what a page when I know you would
have direct a positive. Did you actually examine your paycheck,
olden and start looking at the list of taxes that

(47:49):
were taken out of your paycheck? We all did. And
you know, as a running I can't remember the comedian
that had the joke. I don't know who this Fica
is you know, all these initials and stuff for my taxes,
money taking out you know when were they in the
gym with me? And so to me, it's just it's crazy.
But to lou Williams's point, nothing was derogatory. It's just, hey,

(48:15):
it's very different, which it is. It's a different country
and with the taxes. Don't forget now they still got
to give Uncle Sam his cut on top of Canada.
So it's just crazy that people want to make such
a big deal out of it. He's just say, it's
a tough experience if you're not ready for it. And
that's that's what I took from it. You know it

(48:38):
is you know, you're right, our phone doesn't work with
their phone. Um, different bank accounts. Your kids going to
school now they're going to school in the foreign country.
It is a foreign country. They might it might be
back NBA basketball, but it's still a different country. Were
in London, I mean, Canada is one thing. At least
it say, I'm the same continent. But if you were,

(49:00):
if you were drafted by a team in London, whether
you were an NBA player or an NFL player, and
they decide, hey, we were determined to get a franchise
in London. Really, I'm gonna be in London, England. I
am going to be an eight hour flight away from

(49:20):
the closest spot. I what is this fascination about London,
England the Yankees. Can you imagine if you're a Yankees,
a Red Sox season ticket holder, what's the obvious series
that you're never gonna miss? I guess the Red Sox, right,
And then you're looking at your tickets and you're finding

(49:40):
out three of the games have been taken off the
Ledger because they're gonna play him in London. I want
my money back. Man. This seems crazy to me. You know.
It's like I understand when the league started going global,
David Stern, that was his mandate. I want to take
this game global. I get that. But you gotta understand
there's already and um basketball teams in Europe. They have

(50:05):
their own teams. It's kind of like I liken it
to like soccer. You know, when we brought MLS to
the US, it's never really gonna catch on, but overseas, oh,
it's the biggest thing in the world. And so to me,
you just got to kind of stay in your lane.
Cricket in India is the biggest thing in India, right,

(50:26):
but we're not gonna watch cricket here. Well, in Canada,
outside of hockey, there number two sports, curling, so we
laugh at when we watching in the Olympic Games. Alright,
should stay in American games. Alright, speaking of the American game, now,
you just talked about the influence of soccer. You also
mentioned Adam Silver. Adam Silver is a progressive thinker, but

(50:48):
is it to the detriment of the NBA. We are
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Steve Hartman and Olden polinies the n b A before
I even start getting into specifics here, Olden, do you

(51:34):
do you think that the current state of the n
b A is a healthy one or is there are
their needs for change to make this league healthy? Yer,
just an overview where the league stands right now. Um,
I'm kind of like conflicted. I think the league is
in a great spot, but I believe that stop players

(51:58):
should play. As opposed says low the load management is
the one that gets me, you know, the whole thing
where you know we rest to get, you know, to
be ready for the playoffs. I mean, you know, you're
taken away from the game, You're taken away from the
fans spending harder money. And that's the part I don't like.
And then with the league trying to like, you know,
find solutions to it, I'm like, the simple solution is this.

(52:20):
If you're not hurt, you play, case clothes. You know,
I don't want to hear nothing else about low management.
If you're hurt, you sit. If you're not hurt, you play.
That's it. The n b A is tinkering with some
ideas that would shorten shorten the regular season. By the way,

(52:42):
the number of games that the NBA placed, you know,
they actually came with a number of eighty two. It's
a true story. So at one point they decided that
the NBA season should be half as long as the
Major League base Ball season, which would be eighty one games.

(53:03):
And for one year, the year that Wilt Chamberlain led
the seventy sixers to the title nineteen sixty seven, they
played eighty one games. The next year, the league expanded
to twelve teams. They went from ten to twelve, and
they implemented an eighty two game season. The reason being
anyone just seemed weird number. We just wanted to get

(53:23):
an even number, so they arbitrarily went to eighty two,
and that's what twelve teams. We now have thirty teams,
and it's still a D two. So really as an
arbitrary number, eight two, he's sort of created it because
they didn't want to have exactly have eighty two sounded
cooler than eighty one. This is how arbitrary this number is.
Here's what they would suggest. Reduced the regular season from

(53:47):
let's say eighty two to seventy two, and to make
up for those miss games, have some kind of tournament
mid season. Now, the idea comes from your Pian soccer.
You have the European Soccer champions but you also have
the Gold Cup. You have all these cops, these tournaments
during the course of the season. I have so many

(54:10):
questions about this. Let's let me ask you this old
and as a guy that should be heading up the
players Association. All right, so I'm playing in the n
b A and we're gonna take a little break from
the regular season to play in some in season tournament.
What should I expect to get paid to participate in
this mid season tournament? Is that part of my paycheck

(54:35):
is his additional money? How does that work? And that's
the one that's gonna come into collect the boggaining right
then in there, and that's gonna be the key. You're
not gonna expect me to play the regular season games
and then play in season tournament and not get composite
for it. That's gonna be a sticking point for them.
But again, but now you're going into all the other

(54:56):
dynamics of changing all the records from years past, the
way things used to be. I understand that everything happen
did the tournament games? Records count? Oh? Is if I
play in a tournament, if you want to do the tournament,
do it. Then get rid of All Star Weekend. If

(55:18):
you wanted to make changes, get rid of that. You know,
to me, that's a waste because nobody really plays that
and they get paid for participate All Star game. Show
you how crazy is when we talk about records and
everything college football one of my great passions. For years
and years, bowl games did not count as official and

(55:40):
see stats. But by two thousand and two, so many
bowl games are out there. They decided from that point
on that bowl game stats would count, but they didn't
retroactively add other people in the past. This happen with
Barry Sanders. When Barry Sanders, Oklahama State member, big Heisman
year and everything else, he scored thirty nine touchdowns in

(56:02):
eleven games. Unreal, right, he scored five more in his
playoff game. So then years later Monty Ball over there
with Wisconsin he got to thirty nine, including the bowl game.
I actually remember interviewing Barry Sanders. They go, if he
had actually broken your record with a forty touch and

(56:23):
you you actually scored forty four. Now Barry was cool
about it and everything else, But you know, I as
a guy that's a numbers guy, Yeah, it would be aggravating.
But if you have an in season tournament, would those
numbers be included in your stats? Does everyone participate? Let
me let me give you an alternative. Although it's a

(56:43):
little bit tricky. In baseball, season was split up because
of a strike, remember that two and a half month
strike in baseball. They resumed the season starting with the
All Star Game, and what they ended up deciding that
year only is that we're gonna have a first half
of the season, second half of the season, and the
winner of the first half in the division would play

(57:05):
the winner the second half of the season. That's how
it played out in the playoffs. There was one major
problem with that. The Cincinnati reads that you're actually had
the best record in baseball and they were excluded from
the playoffs because they were in second place in the
first half and second place in the second half, and
combined they had the best record in baseball. But what
about a midseason splitting of the season? Horrible idea, horrible idea. Okay,

(57:30):
why is that? It just is Again, I'm thinking about
the league when it first started and all the great
players that played. We didn't have a mid season tournament then.
So now you're gonna have the complexi of trying to
figure out stats. Like you said, what records are gonna count? What?
What does this count? Does not count? So you have

(57:53):
a tournament. So it's just fun. But then again, if
it's fun, that's just the All Star Game. So to
groualified All Star game and to me, you you make
him more than should be made. All this is because
guys started doing that load management crap. Again. If you're healthy,

(58:14):
you play. If you're not healthy, you sit out. Case close.
I'm gonna read some suggestions here that was made. This
is on the ringer about the NBA schedule. All right,
this is up. People are taking this. So this one
guy decided that he had the best idea of what's best,
and he was citing the fact that Kevin Duran's achilles

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and Clay Thompson's a c L gave out in the
one third and games of the season, including the playoffs
for the Warriors. So he goes, how many games should
be on the sketch? He said, easy, fifty eight. He
gives each one of the teams a home game and
a road team against all twenty nine opponents. Done. Every
team you play one home game and one road game

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against all twenty twenty nine other teams. Fifty eight done.
He said this the postseason cut down a little bit.
First round forget best of seven, best of five, which
was the way it was when you were in the league. Absolutely.
The other thing he suggested, Now this was interesting. How
about this one skunk rule? If you go down three

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oh in a series series over, do not continue the series.
Do not prolong the series. No team has ever come
back in any round of the NBA playoffs down three oh,
not one in the history of the NBA plays No
team down three has ever come back to win a series.
So he has a skunk rule. So I guess the
overall question is is less more? Is less more? Would

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it put more of an emphasis on the regular season?
Does it drag out too long? I don't remember guys
when you start in the league complaining all that much
about the schedule. That seems to have been more of
a recent phenomenon. But if you were to shorten the
season of fifty eight games, wouldn't that possibly extend NBA

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careers longer, which would mean more money for the players.
Of course, there's also considerations that the network saying, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,
We're gonna pay less if you're gonna give us less.
So I mean, just forget the records, just talk about practicality.
What would be best for the players, and for the
game would less be more unless would be more except

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from a financial aspect, but it would be you know that,
I like that one with the games home in a way,
and that's it. So there's no advantage to anybody, and
you get fresh legs. So you do fifty eight, you
could still end up with eighty two games season total.

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You know, let's see, it takes sixteen to win a championship.
That's what well you get, so you would have seventy
four games. Well no, but let's say if if you
reduce the first round the best five or even the
first couple rounds bestI five, now you would really right
beyond that two. And so to me, I think that works.

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But they're not gonna do that, Steve, come on, now,
we're losing too much money. That's twenty four games, that's
twelve home games. I'm losing. I can't afford that. Well,
I guess, I guess the bigger question is is this
necessary for the NBA. I mean again, you've got a

(01:01:31):
guy Adam Sober that you know, everyone just hails. Is
this progressive thinker with the idea that I I've got
to I can't sleep at night. I gotta think of
ways of changing our game to make it better. Change
doesn't always make it better. Baseball is a prime example.
Did inner league play make baseball better? No? It did not.

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Don't mind the wild card, but inner league play took
away a lot of to me, the charm of the
game that you had to separate leagues. It wiped out
the All Star Game. The All Star Game just wiped
it out. And the World Series American League, National League,
we don't know. It's americanly better than that anteral league play.

(01:02:13):
What is that added to baseball? Nothing? Nothing, took away
a lot of what made baseball, and everything would be
what the new NBA do NBA. So that's how the
conversation would always be the old NBA versus a new NBA. Well,
I'm gonna get down the road with you with an
even a new NBA like like like so far beyond

(01:02:34):
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(01:02:57):
he got? All right? So let me let me ask
this question, and first because it has to do with
Major League Baseball. Um, today's game Yankees and Red Sox.
Right now, they're in the second inning at six to six.
This is the third time ever in Major League Baseball
history in which both starters allowed at least six or
more turned runs and didn't get out of the first inning.

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Can you name the other four teams that had that
same situation happened to them? Well, I would have to
guess one would be the Rockies. I mean, that would
be a guest. I have no idea. But so you're saying,
this is only the third time ever ever in the
history Major League Baseball the Bolts starting pitchers were knocked
out in the first inning giving up at least six runs. Yes,

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that's a crazy stat So the other two times that
had happened, One of them was in nine it was
the Blue Jays and A's in Oakland, and the other
time was nineteen August the fourth Boston and the Browns,
Boston Red Sox and St. Louis Brown. Yeah, so Red
Sox had Mel Parnell start. He went a third of

(01:04:03):
an inning and gives me, Parnell is a crafty lefty.
They always call him crafty. And then how about this
for the St. Louis Brown's Blakey Schwab. That guy had
never heard of blake Blakey Schwab. He went one third
of an inning, gives six earned runs on five hits.
For the Blue Jays it was Frank Wills, and then
for the A's was Kurt Young. You know, you know,

(01:04:24):
it's amazing about baseball records, and it's it's what makes
baseball unique is that somebody actually that quickly was able
to come up with that stat. Yeah. I mean, they've
been playing this game for a hundred and fifty years,
and yet you have these guys that literally dedicate their
entire lives to baseball stats that that quickly they can

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come up with the only two times ever that two
pitchers got knocked down the first any of the same game,
giving up at least six Oh, but you want to
you want to hear what's worse about this is that
if you go to Baseball Reference, you can actually look
up the stat lines for these picture is and whatnot.
It will include other saver metrics that are in there
as well, like win probability added by the picture, average,

(01:05:07):
leverage index, base out run save, like all that other crap.
Baseball has gotten so out of control with stats. Baseball
got he started with stats. But honestly, I'm a stat
geek and you know, but I stay away from baseball.
They're creating stats, literally, new stats every day. Don't get
me started, and it just drives me nuts. Well, with
all that being said, Mark massa hero to Knockia with

(01:05:29):
two thirds of an inn and give six earned runs
on four hits. He walked two batters. Rick Porcello only
recorded one out. He was gone six earned runs on
five hits. Aaron Hicks had a two run shot as well.
So Boston, New York right now in London tied at
six to six. Meanwhile, Women's World Cup action going on
right now played picks meres called courtesy of fest one.

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As it stands right now, Sweden over Germany by account
of two to one, Red Sox and Yankees right now
that games on Fox. You can watch obviously on Fox
for also on the Fox Sports app. Meanwhile, in the NBA,
The Athletic report that the Golden State Wars and Clay
Thompson looked to be agreeing on a deal tomorrow when
free agency begins. It would be a max contract coming
his way five years and a hundred ninety million dollars
to play in the Bay Area. And according to Adrian

(01:06:22):
war Nalsky, Kevin Durant, Kawhi Leonard, I've been chatting a
little bit about a scenario where they can play together
in the future. What happened next season obviously with Durant
and its torn Achilles ten in, but it could happen
at some point here You're real soon Dever is picking
up the thirty million dollar option for Paul Millstap's contract.
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(01:07:02):
the second inning without scoring a single run. Now, somebody's
gonna have to figure this out. How many times in
baseball history has there been a game where the starting
pitchers are both knocked out in the first inning, giving
up at least six runs, and the second inning was scoreless. Well,
I guess we only have to look up to other
games and see if it happened in those very y

(01:07:23):
good Thank you very much, David. Once again, we'll come
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want to take a little pause on the NBA for
a second here to address the World Cup with you, Olden.
By the way, Sweden has just defeated Germany. That really

(01:07:44):
knocked out the only country that was considered a serious
threat to the United States. Germany ranked number two in
the world. Uh, Frances ranked number three in the world.
And so now the path to glory seems to be
pretty well set uh for our women at the World Cup.
I guess what I really want to ask you is

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about the combination of sports and politics in general. Now again,
we have a country where you're free to speak, and
I believe ac in that making Rappina, who has been
the absolute star for the United States and this World Cup,
her two goals obviously the difference maker in the match
against France. She's had a little tit tap with the

(01:08:27):
president about a White House visits. She dropped an FP
bomb and everything else, and of course our president is
always willing to come right back. He also said in
the aftermath he would extend a invitation to our women's
World Cup team regardless of her win or lose the
World Cup, because he was such a fan politics and uh,

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sports in general. I know this, this is this is
this is a wide subject here, Olden. But you're you've
always been known as long as I known, is a
man that speaks his mind about anything you feel like
it is necessary to talk about. So I know, you
know I'm going to hold back, but you you do
you do understand that there are people and I've gotten

(01:09:09):
this for years when when somehow politics sneaks into the conversation,
I get a lot of pushback from people saying if
I wanted to hear politics, I would go elsewhere. I
want sports. I want to Sports is a diversion for
me from all the other mess that's going on in
the world. I get a little breather when I get

(01:09:33):
into my little cocoon of the sports world. So where
do you draw a line? Is a line necessary? How
do you feel about this? There is no line because
you cannot draw a line just because it's sports. Yes,
you want the escape of sports, but you gotta understand
what's is being played by human beings that when we

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all go through stuff. You know, the Kaepernick is a
young Africa American man that sees stuff that's going on
in in this country and he spoke about it. Just
because he played football does not mean he can't speak
on it. He has to live it on a daily basis,
making Rappeeno making her statements. Yes she's an athlete, but

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she has to live this on a daily basis no
matter what it is. And so to me, that's where
we lose focus is thinking that because we're athletes. In
the immortal words of you know who, shut up and
dribble or shut up and throw shut up and kick whatever.
It is a sport. But we're human beings and we

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have opinions. We should be able to express our opinions.
We should be expressed our feelings. You know, me being
a guy, you know, I did my Hunger strike back
in You know, I got clowned for it, but I
had to do it because I'm an Asian. I saw
what was being done to the Haitian refugees and I
spoke on it. I have every right to do that.

(01:11:06):
You know. I got called everything under the sun, so
it's always going to be that way. And to me,
I'm a firm believer the best way to cure the
ills of the world is with sports. But it has
to be done collectively and in the right way, because
that's the one thing. Take aways sports right now in
the world and see what happens. Okay, it'll stop the world.

(01:11:28):
It was automatically shut everything down. Everybody go rent the
movie Amazing Grayson Chuck. And then because I'm thinking about
remaking that movie as a matter of fact, so I'm
saying it publicly. Um, Amazing Grason Chuck. You know story
about NBA guy, a little kid who gave up plane
Little League Baseball because of nuclear weapons, and then it

(01:11:51):
just grew and grew and grew until there were normal
nuclear weapons. So to me, that can happen. Sports can
affect change. Well, it's interesting you mentioned the Kaepernick situation
because it appears that the NFL has effectively squashed the
Kaepernick situation. Remember there was this agreement apparently with his

(01:12:14):
attorney that they came to some resolution in their lawsuit
against the NFL, and immediately it was reported that he
got this huge sum on money, and then we later
found out it wasn't anything close to that. The fact
is is that controversy about the anthem about Colin Kaepernick,

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the NFL, in their own way, pushed it aside. They
have a very different mindset in the NFL than they
have in the n B. A Adam Silver is a
commissioner for the players. Not only will he not discourage
his players, if anything, he encourages it. So do you

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think there's any pushback for the NBA. I mean, the
NBA obviously has always been a league, more so than
any other sport that is predominantly African American. Do you
think that ultimately as a business it can hurt the league? No,
it's not gonna hurt the league because the way the
makeup the players speak out, But it's done in my person,

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everything's done the right way, and guys are not just
saying anything crazy, you know, it's it's usually a lot
of specific stuff that they're saying. And again, it's not
gonna hurt the league because it's the star guys that
are speaking out, and then it's followed by the next
tier guys and so on and so on, and so

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to me, it's everything has been handled the right way. Um,
Adam civil, like you said, you know, he's afforded these
guys that opportunity to have a voice, much more than
David Stern did, Yes, much more than David and David
you know, David's from the old school, Okay, you know
when we had the only news you know that were
you know, they were actual owners in every sense of

(01:14:06):
the word. They really felt like they owned you. You
you should have U. I will get to that, but
I mean, because we talked about that last week, Um,
David Stern. I interviewed Stern number of times, especially when
I was working with Michael Thompson and right after they
had the address code. Remember this and the aftermath of iverson,
and they thought it was mandatory in the way you
present yoursell post game and everything else. We actually had

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Stern on the show, and I knew I could ask
him this question because Stern always has an answer. I said, Commissioner,
let me ask you a question. Are you drunk with power?
That was my exact question to him. Excuse me, commissioner,
are you drunk with power? And of chorus is retort
is he goes, are if you're asking me if I

(01:14:50):
am going to do what's best for lady? The answers yes.
Is that really necessary? Address code? I mean? How I
mean how the players go along with that? How did
that even happen? He scared? He scared the crap out
of all of us. He really did. He threatened that,
he made threats and it worked. He just he ruled

(01:15:10):
with an iron fist. And at that time, we didn't
know any better as a union, as a as a league.
We just felt like, you know what, it's David's rule.
Whatever he says goes. And that's how it was for
a long time, and we didn't have the party. That's
why I give a lot of credit to a guy
like Lebron James. He's a lot. He's allowed to play

(01:15:31):
us the opportunity to have leverage and to have control
within you know, their craft in their sport, and we
didn't have that in the past. That's the honest truth.
We just didn't have. It was David Strang's way or
the highway. All right. I got a major story for
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Sports radio network to your airwaves. I hope we're doing
you good. All right. We have a lot going on here. Obviously,
we'll have much more on the latest as far as
NBA free agency is concerned. Um, the couple of things
that I want to get to about the NBA. First,
I want to get your thoughts on this uh experiment
they're gonna have during summer league about a coach's challenge.

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This is going to be to understand how this works.
It's something they may implement into the NBA next season.
If it works over the summer, each coach would be
given one challenge and only one challenge. In other words,
if you challenge and you get it right, you don't
get another challenge. You got a challenge, alright, one challenge.
Here's the other thing you need to know about this challenge.

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You have to have a time out remaining to actually
have a challenge. Now, if you get the challenge right,
you get to save your time out. If you get
the challenge wrong, you have to lose the time out.
But here's here's the interesting thing to me. So what
are you challenging out of bound stuff? You know, shock
clock and all this stuff. You can also challenge a foul. Now,

(01:17:43):
by the way, that's a foul committed. A non foul
cannot be challenged. If you see some guy get clawbered
and there's no call. Sorry, that's not challengeable. But the
idea of challenging a foul. And also, I don't know
if you saw this Olden, the challenge for all the
other things, whether it's out of bounds or whatever, that
kind of stuff will will go to a league office person,

(01:18:06):
but the foul challenge will be decided by the crew chief.
So I would imagine in the course of your career
you would probably have challenged a million fouls during your career,
either that you committed or committed on you or your
teammates everything else. I mean, it's so arbitrary with fouls
in the NBA. How do you think this is gonna

(01:18:28):
play out the first time that a coach challenges a foul?
Another one these absurd things? And to me, which one
when are you going to use it? Because in my
person opinion, this has to be something that you saved
to the last minute or so of the game. You got.

(01:18:48):
It's got to be something that it's it's about to
cost us a game because you can't challenge in the
first quarter. You know, we all said the game is
just getting side, there's no need to you. So it's
based it is something that's gonna have to be used
in the right way, and it has to be used
at the end of the game when it's a game.
Other than that, if you're down twenty, what's the point

(01:19:09):
of the challenge? You know, just something to do. Well,
let me ask you this from a player's standpoint, where
the biggest mistakes made as far as fouls called, is
it off ball, on ball, charge block? Well, where would
you say the most mistakes are made in when fouls
are called or not called. Well, that's a hard The
only way I can answer that question is to say this.

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The problem with the fouls and everything else is so
arbitrars based on the referee. You gotta know your officials.
You know, I always raised my hand when they called
to file me because I knew not to argue it,
because it's like it's serves no purpose. No referee has
ever changed the call. And so with that being said,
you gotta know your referees. You have to know that

(01:19:50):
there's sudden guys they call things tight, and there's other
referees that let you play, and so you gotta really
have a guy to get a call with these guys.
So to me, and everything changes, I slap your hand
one second, the next second, it's not a it's it's
just so arbitrary, and so to me, that's what they
gotta figure out. What's a foul? Do you think anyone

(01:20:13):
will use it to challenge a foul or will they
save it for something else they would have. That's gonna
be the dilemma. Do you use it for that foul? Okay,
the sweaming, it's in the game. You get a file,
you down one. Oh, it's not a file. Use it now.
I don't have one, right, that's it. And now I'm
still down one with thirty seconds and something's committed. I

(01:20:34):
don't have a challenge to use. So it's gonna create
some anxiety for the coaches. It's like when do I
use this? And like I said, you can't use it
unless you still have a time out remaining. So if
you run out of time out, then you can't use
the challenge because you need a time out. Just one
more way to improve the league. They say, I have

(01:20:58):
a producer down it's Andy Goes. Can't we just stay
in the nineteen eighties, No, we can. Apparently we got
to move on to the future. Speaking of Hey Holden,
Polinice went to a big show this week. He'll tell
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(01:21:19):
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(01:21:43):
thing with Kevin Durand they're gonna start the meeting process.
Although I do remember a year ago this time, the
first the first bomb came right out of the box
and Paul George said, I'm staying in okay See without
even giving the Lakers a meeting. Never had Olden. Everyone
does thought that Olden it's gonna, you know, spend his
one year in okay See and then he would sign

(01:22:04):
with the Lakers and join Lebron James. He didn't even
give the Lakers a meeting. He's like, how much money
am I gonna make if I stay here at okay See? Done.
So don't be surprised if a few guys that maybe
a rumor to be out there are not going to
make that leap that they're just going to, you know,
sign the contract. I just quickly, what do you think

(01:22:27):
is gonna happen with Kemba Walker. I mean we we
talked a little bit about it earlier. He said that
he was willing to take less to stay in Charlotte,
knowing full well that Jordan's is not going to give
him a super Max Steel Toe. But now of all
we're hearing that it's done. He's gonna be with the Celtics. Um,

(01:22:48):
I'm going on the legend say yeah, Kemball Walker is
a Boston Celtic and about a week or two. And
so with that being said, it's a downgrade in my
personal opinion, you know, from Kyrie Irvan to Kemba Walker,
it's a downgrade. You know, what is his game? Now?
You have to admit this his run in twenty during

(01:23:08):
that n C A tournament. Remember they had to win
five games and five nights to win the Big East
Tournament and then still had enough gas left in the
tank to win the n C Championship, including a big
win over Kauai's San Diego State team in the Semis
Believe the Sweet sixteen. Aztec fans are still upset about
that game. But I mean, that was one of the
greatest postseason runs I've ever seen by a player. What

(01:23:30):
Kemba Walker did this year? That year? What? What? What
give me? I mean we see the numbers? Are they
empty numbers? What? What? What kind of player do we
have in Kemball Walking? They are empty numbers. I've been
saying this a bunch of guys. When you play on
losing teams, you're gonna get stats like and sacrament That's

(01:23:50):
why even Anthony Davis, Okay, there's a little asterisk because
I'm like, hey, come on, so now he's gonna get
on a better team and and we're gonna see how
good you really are. But Kemba Walker. One of the
stats that stick out in my mind is this UM
one hundred possessions. Kyrie Irving was at a thirty six,
you know, pick and roll, and Kimball's at fifty six.

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But people are saying Kimba it's a ball hog based
on that at thirty six, But Kimball's at a fifty
six for one possessions. He's beyond a ball hog. If
that's the case, and now you're bringing him to the team.
The Celtics are built, you know, with young athletic forwards.
That should be the focus of my personal opinion. You

(01:24:33):
cannot have ball dominant players playing with these young guys.
You gotta bring a guy in back and facilitate. And
Kimball is not a facilitator. Well, he worked with Isaiah Thomas.
I mean, he had that fabulous season with Boston and
he was second and league in scoring. So I'm trying
to go from Isaiah Thomas to Kyrie Irving to Kimball Walker.

(01:24:56):
I mean, I'm not trying to figure this out here.
I mean a miniatures I'm like, come on, they gotta
go get a six five guard somewhere right. Interesting. I
want to ask you because you were at the NBA
Awards show. Uh, this is a new phenomenon in the NBA.

(01:25:17):
They decided to follow the example of the National Football
League that does an honor show after everything is done.
Of course, he creates some insanely uncomfortable situation. Of course,
last year was the ultimate when Dwayne Casey was handed
the Coach of the Year Award for Toronto, not only
after he had been fired by the Raptors, but had
already been hired by the Pistons. Here's what I don't

(01:25:41):
understand about the awards. Explain this to me. So in
the old days you don't remember this. What they would
do is the regular season end, the playoffs will begin,
and then during the first couple of rounds they started
announcing the award winners. Some of them will be uncomfortable,
member Durknovitski winning the m v P after they lost
the Golden State in the first round. UH one verses eight.

(01:26:02):
But if this is a regular season award and the
board the voting has done the last day of the
regular season, then why not have the award show before
the playoffs because otherwise you're sitting there. You just saw
Kawai Leonard and you're like, hey, there here, there's your
mv entered the compo. He disappeared. How do you get

(01:26:26):
m v P. You know what I'm talking about. It
just seems like weird. It's a great point. You absolutely right,
it's a regular season awards, Then have the awards show, right,
there's a there's a gap in between there. If you
can have it and right before the playoffs start back
something up. You can definitely do that, and you're right. Also,

(01:26:48):
now we get into the playoffs, Yanna's gets exposed, Bye
Bye Toronto, and all of a sudden, he's a MVP.
I don't know. You start thinking, you start doubting yourself
and the voters, you know. But it's like, well, it's
a regular season awards show. Yeah, but we just saw

(01:27:08):
the whole playoffs. I don't I don't get this. It
just makes sense. Baseball has done this forever. But you know,
in the old days they only had the World Series, right,
but now you've got all these other playoffs and you
have a guy when's an m VP who was over
in the playoffs. Are seen was in in the playoffs.
It's again, the voting has done the last day of
the regular season. As you mentioned, there's there's several days

(01:27:29):
before the playoffs actually begin. So you have an award
show there it is, you sit down, you hand out
the regular season awards. Let the playoffs begin. So let's
get back to the actual NBA awards. So this, this
event has been going on a couple of years now. Uh,
this first time you were there, what's what's it like.
I mean, you know, I mean you can see a
lot of friends, I said, I rekindled a lot of friendships,

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people I hadn't seen in years. And it was but
to be there, not only with the current players, but
the past guys. I mean, when I walked into the security,
Kareem was right behind me. I mean, Adam Silver's right
over here. I see Bill Russell was like, oh my god,
it's the legends of the game. And then I see

(01:28:12):
the young players, the new generational guys, Trey Young and
Luca Janice walking in and of course, you know the outfits,
you know, were the best ones in my opinion, jannest
and his brothers. Yannis had on his blue one had
yellow one. I would see that to me would be

(01:28:35):
the biggest challenge, Like, you know, you're going to this
major event where fashion is going to be on display.
You're old and polonies. You know, I'm not a twentysomething
there old Okay, I've been around, but you know I
don't want to look out of place. So I mean,
did you did you do a lot of thought about
what to wear? No? I put on a nice suit,

(01:28:56):
nice and I went to find me a nice popping
tie and that was it. I'm not, of course. I mean,
it's a nice tide, it's a nice soup, and so
to me, it's the younger generation that, you know, they
want to do that. So, you know, I gotta make
a statement with my fashion. I make a statement with
my fashion. But it's always you know, clean, you know,

(01:29:19):
I don't. I don't. I've never been the guy that
go overboard and you know, with the bright colors and
all that, and always understated, you know. But let me
ask you this, um, and I'm such a history guy
and everything else, and I get into this whole thing.
But let's let's put the money aside, because obviously the
money is so incredible now, way beyond what it was

(01:29:39):
in your day, and your day was way beyond before
your predecessors. All right, I get that. Let's leave money
out of it. Let's just talk about the actual game,
the way it's played today as opposed to when you
came into the sleep. Are you happy knowing where the
NBA is now and where the NBA was before you
got there, that you played in the era that you played,

(01:30:02):
or would you have been better suited playing earlier or later?
What do you think I can't say, because there's no
way to know. I'm content with why I was the
same way. I know some of my brethren, you know,
they criticized a young player as well. They're making a
lot of money and they're not working as hard. But

(01:30:22):
when I came into the league, I'm sure the guys
from the sixties and seventies said he's be making three
hundred thousand dollars when I was making fifty thousand exactly,
you know, and the money out of it. Yeah, and
so would you have been a different player twenty years later,
I've been standing shooting threes all day. I would not
my game. I knew what my strength was, you know,

(01:30:43):
rebounding defense, and I can knock down an occasional fifteen footer.
I can knock down at three point if I need to,
but that's not my strength. My strength was. I'm coming
down that I'm whooping your butt physically. I'm gonna pound
you into the ground. DeAndre Jordan has done that in
this I'm way better to play than the joy. Here
you go in the league, and he's he's surviving in

(01:31:07):
this new NBA. So Trump as high as he did.
But you know, the rebinding and the defense. I'm a
better not by much. He's I always give this the deata.
He's worked at it. I mean, at least he's trying
work and you absolutely have to work out it all right.

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Once again, we're in the Geico Fox Sports Radio studios. Look,
it's gonna come down to one guy and one guy
before anything else, and that is Kauai Leonard. What about
these rumors to the Lakers, do they really have a
shot at him? What about Kauai with Kevin Durant and
the Clippers? What about what Marcus Saul did in Toronto?

(01:31:53):
There are signs to tell you where Kauai will land.
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Steve Arban and Olden Poulines again, watching this game that's
being played in London between the Yankees and the Red Sox.
So the center field wall. This is a soccer stadium
that they're playing in. They modified it to play baseball
there and center field is three six, which is why

(01:32:40):
the first inning was six six. Now things have actually
settled down since the six six first inning only been
two runs since Yankees lead this eight to six. We
even just saw a couple of Hall of Famers Mariano
Rivera Dave Winfield in the stands. It's a great thing
about baseball, you know, you just got a lot of tradition,
and you bring him there. And how do you feel
about Marianna Rivera becoming the first player ever to be

(01:33:02):
a unanimous selection for the Hall of Fame. Not Hank Aron,
ty Cob, not Babe. No one had ever been in
animous until Marianna Rivera, which, by the way, does that
bode well for Derek Jeter next year? What do you think?
I'm a Yankees fan. I'm happy for it. But you're
right when you think about all the great price not Mantel,

(01:33:24):
Luke Garrett, Well, he was an acclamation. But I mean
nine people were like Hank Aaron, No, not not good enough.
That's absurd. Now there was several people are like name
he was good. So anyway, we'll got our eyes on

(01:33:45):
that baseball game. A bigger story obviously going into tomorrow
is the NBA free agency, and the number one name
is Kawai Leonard. Remind everybody once again, when you hear
all these rumors about Kawai Leonard, the one guy that's
not giving us any rumors is Kauai Leonard. He doesn't
publicly speak about anything going on in his life ever,

(01:34:07):
so that means we have to sort of listen to
other people talking for Kauai or talking about Kauai. The
big story yesterday was that Kawai Leonard had requested a
meeting with the Lakers only if the only two people
in the room were Genie Buss and Magic Johnson. Now,
everything about that made absolutely no sense, especially since Magic

(01:34:30):
doesn't actually work for the franchise and by NBA law,
is not allowed to participate in a meeting that has
to do directly with the team. It's not even allowed
in the room. By the way, Anthony Davis would be
not allowed in the room either because he's not even
a part of the Lakers yet. Because that trade won't
come down until July six, he can't talk to him

(01:34:51):
in a formal way. Now, informally, of course, you can
talk to anybody at any time. But what made the
story even more interesting was the fact that the only
person to comment about it was Magic Johnson, who immediately
came out to remind everyone know, the NBA doesn't allow
me to be there. I'm more than willing to sit
down with Kauai. I've reached out to Genie a couple

(01:35:12):
of times. He hasn't returned any of my phone calls.
When you're hearing that, the first thing in is, oh,
I wonder where that story came from. What do you
think I think Magic Johnson started that story? Old did?
It's so obvious only myself and Gene can be in

(01:35:32):
the room, right Wow. In other words, what he's saying
is that guy, that backstabber Polinka. Uh, he's not going
to be able to get any of the big names
to come to l A. If you want the big
names to come to l A. I was the guy,
but you didn't allow me to have that. I am
a better chance of getting Kauai to the lake. He alright, So,

(01:35:55):
because immediately Vegas odds were just you know, Lakers sky
rocketing up there. He's gonna be a Laker. And now
even even today you got the Lakers are serious and
and Kauai is seriously considering the Lakers. I mean, just
ask you about the mix of Kawuai Leonard, Lebron James,

(01:36:18):
and Anthony Davis. Just from a basketball standpoint, is Kauai
Leonard a better fit for the Lakers with Anthony Davis
and Lebron? Then let's say Kyrie Irving would be D'Angel Russell,
in other words, a guard. Would Kauai be a better
fit than one of those guys when you have Lebron,

(01:36:40):
James and Anthony Davis. I don't think he's a good fit.
And that's one of the problems the three of those guys.
Lebron is used to being Lebron alpha male, Anthony Davis
used to being the man with a bad team. Right,
he still expects to be the man because to me,
he's going to be the face of the Lakers post Lebron.

(01:37:03):
You bring in Kauai, who's arguably one of the best
players in the league, two time champion, twice m VP,
He's still he's the man in Toronto. So now what
are the roles of each individual moving forward if they
would have joined team? Because Kauai Lebron is similar type

(01:37:25):
of players, you know, if you look at their games,
you know inside outside, and so it's just the dynamic
of everything doesn't make sense to me. All right, let
me ask you this, And I've been making this argument
all along. There are a lot of people, and even
Magic brought this up like this was yesterday. Magic said
about Kauai fitting with Lebron and Anthony Davis. Well, he

(01:37:47):
fitting with Tim Duncan and Tony Parker. Amana Genoboli worked
from then, And I'm thinking to myself, that was then,
as Kauai was being groomed as the next star with
the Spurs, the guy that we saw in this postseason
dominated give me the ball. I am the man. The

(01:38:09):
idea of him going back to the kind of player
he was in San Antonio, at least to me, doesn't
make any sense. It doesn't make sense. And again Magic
is seeing things from a whole different prison. Kai early
in his career, yes, play with Tim Duncan, Manu and
Tony Parker three different positions, none of which was his, okay,

(01:38:32):
so they can all get along. They were older veterans.
And then once he became the man, that's why he
I gotta get the hell out of here. Plus, you know,
with them criticize him and and questioning his injury. Okay,
I gotta get out of here. He goes to Toronto,
he's the man in Toronto, leads them to a championship.

(01:38:53):
I'm not relinquishing that title to be second fiddle. I
don't want to do it. I'm not gonna do it.
He's not very vocal, but he does speak volumes in
his actions and in his game. And his game is
predicated on getting the ball. He's not gonna just stand

(01:39:13):
there and just shoot jumpers. He's not gonna do it.
So now he's gonna be bald dominant. Lebron is bald dominant.
So how Dave was gonna get the ball? I agree
with you. I mean, it just doesn't make sense. I
let's talk about the Clippers now, Olden, So, this was
a rumor that goes back to the season that Kevin
Durant after they made the Tobias Harris trade to sort

(01:39:35):
of make sure they had two MAX spots open. Kevin
Durant Kawhi Leonard teammates with the Clippers. Do you think
that is still on the table and how would that
dynamic work with Kevin Durant, Kevin Durant and Kawai Leonard
side by side in a Clipper uniform. You know what,

(01:39:58):
obviously be on hold for a year. He's gonna be
on hope for here. And that's the most obvious thing.
But Katie and Kauai they could play together, which is fine,
but you're gonna have to, Okay, Lou Williams, Now he
takes a back seat. That's what I'm saying. I have
to be willing to take back seats because now you

(01:40:20):
bring in two not one star, but two we've never
played with each other, never play with each other, and
they average over points a game, and so and they
got to have the ball. Okay, alright, So here, here's
the whole point when we talk about Kawhi Leonard. So
we have a Lakers situation where it just doesn't seem

(01:40:41):
to fit. We have a Clipper organization where it would
be just complete unknown, and then he has the team
that he's playing on that oh I don't. Just won
the NBA Championship. And by the way, Marcussol had a
player option. Now you heard that Duran opted out of
his player option. Kauai opted out of his player option

(01:41:05):
before the free agency even began. Marc Gasol said, I'm good.
This is Marcusol. If he had opted out of his
deal and had joined all these other stars on the
free agent market, you don't think there's a market for Marcusol.
A guy, a big man that literally can do everything.
He can shoot, he can pass, He's a former Defensive

(01:41:26):
Player of the Year, his basketball i Q is off
the charts, and he's a champion. So why would he
not test the free agent market unless olden he knows
something that maybe the rest of us are not figuring
out about the makeup of next year's Raptors. He staying
because hey, I have a chance to go for the

(01:41:48):
title again with Kwai landed. Massiah Joby passed up on
millions of running the Washington wizz is because he knows
a little. He's not. It's not guarantee, but the pacentages
are a lot higher. You know, for Toronto keeping Kauai
and then losing Kauai and everything else that's going out

(01:42:10):
there is all made up by all the other fools
that are out there just creating stories. Let me ask
you this, if the Raptors stand pat now you have
one guy by the way fourteen six Yankees. Now, Aaron Judge,
how about twelve home runs in this game? This is ridiculous.
I'm just wondering is this good or bad for England
because they're used to what one or two goals or

(01:42:32):
points in the game. I don't, I don't know. I
mean when I watched when I watched those London NFL games. Again,
I don't get me started on this again, ridiculous. I mean,
the ball is just flying out of the soccer. Is
an exhibition game? Actually count these records? Counting? I guarantee
these guys know that. Offensively end, I'm gonna say this
is the highest scoring game in England history exactly. Um okay,

(01:42:57):
So let me ask you this about the Raptors. If
Kauai stays, let's stay Kauai stays. Everybody else is backing
on the team. Everyone's under contract except Danny Green. He
could be replaced. Let's say the Lakers have Anthony Davis
and Lebron they don't get Kauai. Maybe they spend the money,

(01:43:20):
which I think they should do, on a multitude of
players to give themselves a representative team. Durant's out, Clay
Thompson's not a. Is anybody going to challenge Toronto? I mean,
would they be an runaway favorite to repeat his NBA
champions No, Milwaukee will challenge Philadelphia Wild challenge. Now, do

(01:43:41):
you believe that Jimmy Butler will stay in Philadelphia? Do
you think Tobias Harris is gonna stay? Which one of
those three or combination of three between Harris, Reddick and
Butler will stay in Philadelphia? I think Sobias has stays,
Jimmy Butler might move, but um and they might keep
jaj on a low and contract. But the thing about

(01:44:02):
it is, once Kauai decides to stay in Toronto, and
I'm going on record saying he's staying in Toronto, that's
one less big name, Okay. And so it changed the
dynamics of everything to where now because they had Kauai
going to Philadelphia Clappers and so now it opens up

(01:44:24):
for other guys for those teams. But Toronto is set
and Kauai is off the market, and so it becomes
and the terminology that's been used a second tier guys.
You know, we've had a couple of you know, second
tier guys. I don't believe that their second tier guys.
I believe the third tier guys perpetrating their second tier

(01:44:44):
guys because not everybody is a star in this league.
And that's the thing. So to me, Kauai Kadie, this
is actually the sum of the case. Though if you
look at it, you know all these guys first they
start with K and so we gotta see where everybody lands.
We have to remember at the league as a free

(01:45:05):
agent of the league. I mean, there's a long list
of free agents here. All right. We're in the guy
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trending right now once again, Mr European traveler David Gascon.
Actually get back? When did Jack got back? Sunday night?
At nine thirty Sunday? What to bet at midnight? First
thing I did Tuesday morning? Leg Day? Yeah? Did legs?
Legs feed the wolf? Steve Hartman, I and I heard

(01:45:48):
through a grape vine you did indulge in some suits.
I did. I got fat. I think I got fat.
I don't know, Like I'm kind of naturally fat, but
I got fat er. I don't know. Like I woke
up Sunday certain mornings and I had like the Snickers waffles,
Snickers waffles. Yeah. Then other days it was like strawberry
banana with cream waffles, lots of sugar waffles. Yeah, they

(01:46:12):
break it down for old and stuff like like literally
it was a waffle covered in Snickers like chocolate, with
a chocolate bar on top, the caramel. Yeah, it was
like it was like diabetes on a plate. It was intense. Um.
Lots of ice cream obviously, some healthy cookies and brownies,

(01:46:33):
not the herbal kind. I was sam. Lots of beer too. Yeah.
Well that's a good combo. Yeah, I just I don't
under Steve. You need to explain this to me. How
can someone wake up at seven o'clock in the morning
and the first thing they do is grab a coffee
and a cigarette. That's what they do, and they burn

(01:46:54):
all day. They get that espresso, you know, that really
potent stuff, and smoked a cigarette, get that nicotine into
your system and I get your buzzing and yeah it
was crazy man. So all right, well now they're much
better shape. What's going on? I'm round um Yankees Red Sox.
As you mentioned, fourteen to six in this ballgame, Breton

(01:47:14):
Gardner went yard, Aaron Judge just went deep his seventh
of the season, Digital Mayhews three or four. The couple
runs scored in three base knocks. This game is wild.
Twenty two hits in the ball game. Neither starting picture
gun out of the first inning. Masa Heira to knock
a record two ounce, Porcelo recorded one. Each of them
gave up six earned runs. It was six six at

(01:47:35):
the end of the first inning. Well, that being said,
it's now fourteen to six. The Yankees have scored six
innings and the six runs in the first and six
more times in the fourth thing to have an eight
run advantage. There's other games today in Major League Baseball,
but we can't talk about those until later on tonight. Meanwhile,
Women's World Cup action today, Sweden and Germany ball played
offen and that equalizer happened the twenty second minute, and

(01:48:07):
then Sweden scored again in the second half to defeat
Germany by a score two to one. Earlier this morning,
Netherlands defeated Italy by account of two to nuttings those
two sides will score up in the semifinals. England gets
the United States as well, of course all the action
available on Fox and also an FS one. Switching on
over to the NBA that Athletic is reporting the wars
and Clay Thompson will agree on a deal tomorrow on

(01:48:29):
a max contract would come his way five years, ninety
million dollars. Denver's picking on the final year of Paul
millsaps contract. It's a thirty million dollar options. So they
do pick it up, and according to Adrian war Janowski,
Kevin Durant, Kawhi Leonard chatting a little bit about a
scenario where they can be playing sometime in the near future.
Back to Steve Hartman olden polonies and ten seconds. But

(01:48:50):
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(01:49:12):
way closer towards forty um Tokyo, Japan next year for
the Olympics. Yes is on the horizon, Yes it is.
There's some new sports that we're gonna get introduced to
coming up sports not yet E Sports understanding. I haven't
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and Olden polonies with you. All right, Well, Gascon sort

(01:49:56):
of let it out of the bag. We're talking about
this Olden. In fact, I've talked about this a few times.
E Sports. You know where we're going, don't you, Olden?
With the future of the sports world, don't you. Um.
I've asked people how long before E sports rules the

(01:50:18):
sports world? Um, fifty years? I heared twenty five years.
I mean, I'll put it this way, I don't know
if I'm ready for that, you know, for someone whose
sports has been my life since I was you know,
a child sports, watching sports, you know, as as a

(01:50:44):
non athlete. My admiration for athletes so are always you know,
how here's what the non athlete does. The non athlete
puts themselves in. The athletes choose what would it like
to be It's always interesting all the athletes I've known
over the years when when I say, what is it
like to be that world class athlete? And the answer

(01:51:04):
is the obvious answer is I don't know, because I've
only been this. How do I tell you what it's
like to be me? Because I only know what it's
like to be me, I can't relate. I remember George Harrison,
the former Beatle, was once asked what is it like
to be a Beatle? And as retur was what is
it like not to be a Beatle? I don't know.
I have no reference. Um, but if athletes were literally

(01:51:29):
phased out, gone in favor of E sports, is that
a world you want to be a part of? A No,
not at all. I mean I see the evolution of it,
and I see not that you know, they have all
these teams and they're getting paid nice contracts. But what's

(01:51:52):
I don't think sports will have a die out because
look at baseball. Baseball has been around. You know, what's
the two World Wars and multiple other wars. Yeah, I
don't think you know what's going anywhere, at least not baseball.
I don't know about the rest of them, but I
know baseball is not going anywhere. Well. But here's the thing.
There was a time when there was no baseball. There's
a time when basketball was invented. But we've always had

(01:52:15):
a sport we have and the Olympic Games go back
to uh seven seventy six, so we've always had sports
that's not going anywhere, right, But E sports is that
really sports? No, Like you said, it's people that are
not athletic, right. I guess you do have to have

(01:52:36):
I hand, I write, great thumb skills, you know that
want to see what it feels like, you know, to
be that top athlete. I'm gonna talk to Iowa Sam.
He would seem to Iowa Sam, Are you an East
sports guy? Are you an E sports type guy? Absolutely not.
I'm shaking my head and I'm saying that this will
never be the most popular sport in America, saying if

(01:52:58):
it does, then I move to Fiji because those people
are just giving arthritis, their thumbs, their hearts are clogged
up with with plaque. It's not a sport, all right, Well,
but you could have longevity. You could be a couch
potato for quiet if you die by thirty eight of
a heart attack. Do you know? I had a teammate
that actually had to have thumb surgery? Who is this?

(01:53:21):
Lionel Simmons. Lionel Simmons the psal. Yes, because of too
much of this damn video game crowd? Is that why
he was never the NBA player that he was in
college player literally played so much that it damage the
nurse and his thumb and he had to have surgery.
It was the player recently who played Fortnite so much
that he had cramping. He had some kind of issue.

(01:53:43):
There's some recent NBA player who had that issue. Wow,
I I don't know. I just everyone keeps telling me,
brace yourself. You could happen in your lifetime. Sports that
we know it's gone of relegated to minor status. Yeah,
fift of Americans I think play games of some kind.

(01:54:03):
But does that mean that will propel East sports to
the top. You know, money making and you know advertisement
somebody somebody. I had this the other day where I
was doing a show with someone that said, well, how
can you play like NBA basketball, you know, E sports
basketball game if you've never actually played the game? Are
you talking about? I mean, there's a lot of these

(01:54:25):
guys that are playing these E sports and never obviously
played the game. You don't have to know the game
to play the sports version of the game. That's scary.
We're okay. So if we were in nine to nine
and made that statement that East Sports would take over,

(01:54:48):
we wouldn't even know what the sports was from now
I see us what we are today, It's like it's
not going to change anything, like a lot of other
things have changed over the last twenty years. Lebron sounds
coming out right in a couple of years, let's say career,
so that's about twenty years from now, he's gonna play

(01:55:09):
in the NBA. He goes on his dad so old
and your your grandchildren gonna say, our grandfather played what
he played this sport called basketball and they dribbled on
a court and he actually played in the league. There
was like a league really happening. Now have you said

(01:55:32):
about a hundred two hundred years or not, and you
know whatever. But okay, Steve, what is what is propelled
E sports becoming more popular is obviously the online community,
the Internet getting faster, people streaming now and actually watching
the eat people play sports, which is a very popular
I guess among kids. I just don't get it. I
am in old. I'm not even that old. I'm in

(01:55:53):
my early thirties. I don't get it. You're old now,
you understand you old. I mean, let's talk about fifteen
year olds, so their their view of the world is
completely different. Old, then you know your children's view of
the world. They don't know a world without the internet,
right absolutely, my kids don't. My kids are soon to
be eighteen. Their view of the world completely different. So

(01:56:16):
I don't know. Like I said, I hope I'm long
gone by the time that change happened. I'm just set
where where we are right now, and let's keep this
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Everyone's back anyways, sort of got everybody back now right. Iowa, Sam,
he was hanging out in Toronto. Did you know I was?
Sam was in Toronto during the NBA Finals. Yeah, he

(01:57:20):
actually went to Toronto to hang out with the Raptors.
I saw a lot of Raptors flags. That's he was.
He was there at the time. Had they wrapped up
the series in five, he would have been part of
that whole celebration. But they lost because of Yeah, they
were pretty mortified after that loss. We welcome back Gascon,
who is dieting after eating up half of Europe. Understandably

(01:57:43):
so though, I mean, when you go on a vacation,
I'm a big believer in that. If I'm going on
a vacation, I'm best of everything, right, But what's the
what's the point? I mean, you want to eat all
the food, you want to take in all the sites.
It's gluttony, that's the idea if you're if you're gonna
go on some especially the first time over there. Gauge
our intern who continues to marvel at everything going on

(01:58:08):
around him. But are you learning, Gauge? Are you learning stuff?
All the time? He's learning? And he's all over all
of the updates from Woe and Shams and everyone. Yeah.
And then of course there's Gavin. Gavin, Gavin, Gavin. I'm
gonna ask you again, Gavin, have you gotten the check yet? No?

(01:58:28):
But I've been able to track it. You know it's
on the way, all right, now, this is a little
bit scary. Now, this is now so you know, he
he bet he doubled down on the raptors twice old
and he won a large amount of money from an
offshore but he's never actually cashed in. So this time
he did and what Yeah, Well, here's one thing they

(01:58:51):
don't tell you originally, I guess they do a few
read the fine print had to pay fifty dollars just
to cash out. Well I understand that, Yeah, but the
check is in the mail, wasn't I k last week?
We asked him last week. That's why I wanted to
follow up today. If I don't have it by next week,
I might be in court. It's coming from the Cayman Islands,

(01:59:12):
so it's gonna take a lot. It's coming on a boat.
It's actually being carrier pitches. Alright. Well, good luck with that, Gavin,
Good luck. Do you guys have a problem, see I
see the benefits of technology. Do you have a problem
with the VR headsets and the fact that pretty soon
we're all going to be able to get front row

(01:59:33):
seats to any sporting event? Do you see the positive
in that? Well? First of all, one one of the
things I do not understand. And granted it's a little
different because I'm remember the media and if I want
to go to a game, I can, you know, get
into a game, right or I could probably you know,
sometimes get a deal to bring someone with me to
a game. I have no idea in this day and age,

(01:59:55):
when you got you got a hundred in two hundred
whatever you want, High def television with no lines of
the bathroom, no lines of the fridge. Why am I
spending all that money to go to a game? But
you know what, I'm totally interview are. I would definitely
do that every time I have option. Some days I
go live and some day I just sit at home
and do that, because I remember I did one. They

(02:00:16):
had the thing at the mall and I knew I
was in the mall standing on a piece of wood,
but it was supposed to be me in a high
story building and I gotta walk across and I couldn't
do it. My heart was like I felt like I
was and I have a feel of heights, and so
that really messed me up. But I'm like, I know
I'm in the mall, nothing's gonna happen to me, but

(02:00:39):
I couldn't do it. I have a buddy that works
for one of these companies, and he got me access
to one of the big boxing matches recently. It was
unreal how the sounds, how you can look around everything
is basically exactly where you think it would be, so
you feel like you're right there and you're actually on
your couch. Well, the fact that we're talking about it

(02:01:02):
right now, it's going to happen. Okay, it's going to happen.
I mean, if you think it's good now, imagine what's
gonna be ten years from now. So yes, but we're
still gonna ask what Steve? All right? Well, I hope
you're right. I hope you're right. All right, now, let's
let's talk about this. Durant stays with the Warriors, yes
or no? Durant leaves. Durant leaves alright, so you know

(02:01:26):
Kaui staying in Toronto. Wait a second, you said that
Durant is leaving. Is it going to be the Knicks?
The Nets, are the Clippers? He's going to the Knicks? Well,
Kyrie follow him to the Knicks. He's going to the Brooklyn.
Who's gonna follow him to the Knicks? They need to
figure that out. How about Jimmy Butler? Where is he

(02:01:51):
gonna end up? Jimmy Butler? Either the Lakers or the Clippers. Wow?
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