The Fellas w/ Anthony Gargano and Lincoln Kennedy: 05/16/2020

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It's Abey Gavin. Who's going on? Oh man, same old things,
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is that? The musings of a beat up father? True
story going stir crazy. I need I need, I need
school back right? Oh man? Is it amazing? Like yeah,

(01:09):
when you guys going back? It was a trying weak man.
I think I went through and I went through a
whole a whole rack of cigars just this week. It
keep my sad. It was seriously tested. That's uh. Isn't
that classic? Brother? It is classic? It is classic, man story.

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They are they are something, aren't they aren't they They're
beautiful thing. They're beautiful creatures. There's no doubt about it.
But they they can they will try you. And I've
got three at home all the same and pretty much
the same. Yeah. Yeah, he's a vacation. That the truth.

(01:53):
They ain't that the truth? My god, I hear you.
Life is uh interesting on the quarantine we'll see appears
like we're loosening up a little bit. Yeah. Yeah, Arizona
has a well for the you know, with the new standards,
has officially reopened as of yesterday. So, um, restaurants are

(02:16):
back in full boar, you know, with the course, with
the everything is with the guidelines and restrictions. Um, but
you know, it seems to be back in and now
that uh Arizona has opened up, it's it's opened its
doors to all the sports if you want to come
and play. So we've got even more of an exodus
from California coming over because California STU that now people

(02:36):
from California trying to get over to Arizona now to
get their kids ready, you know, and get themselves lined up.
What do you uh, where did they telling you for
the restaurants. They're saying that you can open up with
a certain guidelines. And I mean I was of the
mindset initially that I didn't want to reopen. I really
want to see how the dust settled. Um. It's it's

(02:57):
unfortunate to think about this as a business owner, but
I think you have to be practical. I'm afraid of litigation,
and I'm afraid of hurting the brand. I'm afraid that
someone's gonna get sick and blamed on our restaurants. And
we've got ten restaurants in the valley. And so the
last thing I want to have is is someone come
back and say, you know, and I got sick at
Angry Crabshack because that hurts now and and and it's

(03:19):
unfortunate to think that way, but we you know, reality
is we live in a society of litigation. Whether it's
revolous or true, you still have to fight it. So,
you know, the thing is is that Memorial Day weekend
is coming up. And you've always known a Memorial Day
weekend as as sort of a party weekend, whether it's
you know, backyard gatherings, reunions or whatever it is. You know,
school is pretty much coming to an end this beginning

(03:39):
of summer. I mean, there's just a huge celebration and
I've I've been convinced throughout this quarantine, especially more than ever,
so I thought it was gonna be different. This generation
just doesn't cook anymore. People all the time to eat
out constantly, and I was surprised. I thought it was
going to be different when I heard about the livestock

(04:00):
and things that are being sold and the grocery stores,
I was I was surprised. But I'm finding more and
more people are eating out. If that's the case, the
moment the door is open, it's like your kids were
cooped up in school all all year. The moment that
summer starts, there's just going to be a flood of people.
And there are some of our restaurants that don't have
really the capacity to space out six ft per table,

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because then you you limit you're down to like four
or five tables, and then what do you have a
line outside with a hundred degree heat people waiting to
get in, and how does that go? So um. But
with that being said that, you know the restaurants are
going to be open, but the guidelines are supposed to
be strict where you're you know, you're six ft and
you you know the condiments like the salt shakers and
stuff are gonna be gone off the tables and you

(04:42):
gotta provide packets. I mean it's a little bit of adjustment. Yeah, yeah,
anything that you can touch. And just like the hotel rooms. Yeah,
it's like the big hotel hotels down here in Arizona.
You know, they've done away with everything that you could
possibly touch other than the essentials in the room. Now,
all of a sudden, your phone becomes your remote. It
also becomes your palette to order room service. You don't

(05:04):
you know there's no hotel phones anymore. Um, yeah, no
more magazines, no more. So how do you how do
you how do you call room service? Either use the
hotel app or you the hotel. Remember everybody has an
app now, so but just think about going into a
room and turning on the TV. No, your phone does that,

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and so your your own phone will having an app.
Your phone will be the app for the will turn
the TV. They've got they've got hotels, they've had that
for a while. Your phone could be the remote control
as well as your key. You know, there's an electronic key,
and so you know, you think about those things and
all those things are great, you know, technology is practical.
But what happened to those naysayers that you don't want

(05:45):
to sit there and cry about privacy. Well, now you're
giving all your privacy, you're giving access up to uh,
you know, just so you can say you can't touch it.
So I mean, how does that affect business? You see
what I'm saying? Things like that. So there's a lot
going on. But it's a new world, it really is.
It's an a world full of changes, full of differences. Uh.
Some people like it, you know, and some people won't.

(06:05):
That's interesting that it's interesting. Well I'll tell you what
I don't like and who I don't like of course,
uh is Blake Snell. Ah, I need to start off.
Get that off my chests. You know what I mean? Bro?
Did you did you hear it? Jar him? I did
hear it? I heard the trailer? Yes, yes, Uh Blake

(06:31):
Snell talked about getting his money and uh risking his
life bro to get his money. Bro. The biggest creeps
on the face of the planet are baseball players. The
only thing to be outdone by baseball players are baseball owners.

(06:57):
The truly lack of insensitivity to what's going on around
the country is my boggling. First of all, I will
say that the owners started the whole thing, like by
putting the players in a public disadvantage by saying they're

(07:19):
gonna get a fifty split. So the players come out
with this proposal of a fifty fifty split, knowing that
the public will just hear fifty fifty split and go, well,
it sounds fair to me, right, But reality, they had
already come to a deal, and the players have already
agreed to a pay cut. Theft fifty split. It counts

(07:42):
people with no state stadiums, with no fans, so it's
worthless then, how he is taking a pay cut across
the board, so because the revenue is not coming in
because of empty stadiums. So the owners fired the first
salvo by letting that out publicly. But guys like Blake

(08:05):
Snell and Bryce Harper, who co signed Blake Snell, are
insensitive creeps because well, yeah, listen, I don't begrudge anybody
making their money. You make your money and make your money.
I don't. I don't begrudge it, and I believe that
if the owners can afford to pay it, you deserve it,

(08:30):
because ultimately the players make the league. Like like, obviously,
Bryce Harper's three hundred and thirty million dollar contract is obscene,
But the Phillies can afford to pay it, so so
bad get you know, make your money. However, when you

(08:53):
are an insensitive bastard and you don't, you're don't you're
not unaware of the rest of the world around you,
struggling to pay rents and mortgage and car payments and
worried about food. Getting your money, bro is one of

(09:16):
the worst things you could possibly imagine. Yeah, look, I
agree with you. I think that. You know, when I
heard it, I was like, I understand what he's saying,
and I understand that. You know that he's putting himself
on the line of the risk. I understand that. But
I think where ultimately where he went wrong is he
became insensitive to the way of the world right now.

(09:37):
Speaking to that, what you were talking about, the fact
that everyone else, you know, there's a lot of people
in the country who are struggling to make ends meet,
just to stay afloat because jobs in unemployment down. Nobody
wants to hear about you getting your salary. You know
that that, I mean especially how I mean you know
you're talking about you don't have to work, right the
rest of your life, you don't have to work. I mean,

(09:57):
it is what it is right. You got whatever you
know you made, already made ten million, fifteen million. You know,
nobody wants to hear it. Nobody wants here. And here's
the other thing, nobody wants to hear that you're risking
your life, all right, because you know, risk your life,
risk your lives. Doctors risk their lives, and nurses and

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you know who else, Guys that work in the food
industry and food processing plants, I mean the industry stores,
and they do it for a lot less money than you. Yeah,
it's it's hard. It's hard to be. It's hard to be.
You know, feel bad for the possibility of baseball players
because I know, as a professional athlete when we go

(10:41):
to hotels, we're not staying in the budget in We're
staying before or five stars. I mean, you're want to
talk about staying in a bubble of luxury exactly. You know,
it's no risking your lives like you're a freaking uh
infantry man. You know what I'm saying. I am I've
done with this right. I want you to destroy them, Lincoln.

(11:06):
You gotta help me out. We're just getting started. The fellas.
I know I'm gonna go. I'm gonna say something. It's
gonna be over the top. Yes, yeah, I don't believe
that this is not good. I get myself in trouble.
I did it again last night and I've got in trouble.
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(11:55):
because I'm a firm believer that this day and age,
people do a lot of things because they need some attention.
We're talking about Blake Snells, were just joining us in
his comments. And another one I got also throw in
the hat is is Harrison, a linebacker from Pittsburgh. Well,
let's talk about Snail first and we'll we'll get we'll
get to everyone else later. Yeah, I here's the problem

(12:20):
that I The biggest beef I have is when you know,
you know, these guys are resentful and uh, it's gonna
be I'm curious, it's your your take on it. It
appears that the athletes, and really, I mean, these baseball
guys are the worst. I'll tell you. Sometimes I don't

(12:41):
know what it is, but the personality not all guys. Obviously,
I don't want to paint with a broad brush, but
by large of all the athletes that I've dealt with
over the last how many years during this the baseball
guys aren't always the worst. They're always they all got

(13:04):
attitudes and it's amazing to me. You know, I understand
that they feel because they make a lot of money,
that people are resentful of their paycheck. Now, yeah, I
mean it's human nature for people to go, you know,

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we all love playing ball and you know, you make that,
you know, and I understand it. However, I've always thought,
as you know, personally, you know, listening to the best
of the best. When when sports becomes a business and
sports generates that kind of revenue, the players deserve their

(13:50):
fair share. Because we've seen playing the NFL without its
players and the product sucks. It It's called the XFL.
It's not it's no good and so the players need
to be fairly compensated for what the market will bear.

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And so I got no beef with it. But it
feels like certain guys like Blake Snell as he goes
off on his little twitch rampage about well, Bro, I
canna get my money. Bro. You don't understand, bro. Yeah,
I hate me, bro, but I get my money. Bro.
It's not about that. It's not about your money. It's
about let the Tony Clark from the MLB p A

(14:35):
handle it. You keep your mouth shut and know that
you know what, there's people around you that are suffering, suffering.
Get a freaking clue about what's going on in the world, Blake, bro,
get a clue. That's my problem. And then Bryce Harper

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chimes in coacht signs, well, somebody man, dog man dum,
that's being a man, that's manning. Uh. These dudes are
so delusional. They are so far removed from everyday life.

(15:21):
They should be on another planet, the planet of argant
A holes. That's where they belong. And it's amazing to
me that Major League Baseball, the owners and the players
would make the mistake of bickering about the contract coming

(15:43):
back during a pandemic. I'm an idiot link you know
why because on this show and several other places, I mused, Ah,
wouldn't it be great since that during this time advice elation,
we have a new meaning of time. Time It means

(16:06):
something at what what happens when time suddenly goes back
in the day and time along gates? Well, guess what
are are? We now can welcome baseball back with open arms? Right?
Remember I said that as sackering as I said it.

(16:29):
It's gonna make Baseball is gonna come back in America
will fall love with its national pastime except it's national
pastime or run and played by a bunch of flaming creeps.
I'm I'm looking at my notes here that you've mentioned

(16:50):
a number of points right now, uh and and and
I'm gonna address I'll address the back end first. You know,
we are in an unprecedented period we've never experienced before worldwide,
but most notably in this country. This is what we
care about this most the most because there's no sense

(17:11):
of normalcy right now. What is normal when you think
about it and you try to quantify it, you try
to figure out who is your normal routine, like for
us coming in during our show early Saturday mornings, that's
part of our normbal routine, you know, getting up, taking
care of our children as part of our number routine.
But the routinity has been somewhat hampered because look, for you,
you don't have to go to city anymore. You can
do your show from home. But still there's a limited

(17:33):
amount to talk about. Where we used to have a
you know, a sort of Smarties board of things to
talk about when it came to the sports world, because
there was always something going on. And now we're you know,
we're we're thriving, we're looking for new content. We're hungry
for something different, something to make it seem like everything
is going to be okay. And we got a weekend

(17:53):
where you will have sports at some degree. You'll have
sports something going on around the world exactly. You know,
they'll be golf this weekend. There'll be other things that
it will slowly come back into view. But the the
overall crowd is hungry for some sense of normalcy. Give
me something that makes me feel like it's like like
we're we're we're we're doing better, We're gonna be okay,

(18:15):
and that's hard to that's a real hard pill to
swallow right now for a number of people, including the
people involved. You know, I've had many times throughout my career, uh,
this broadcasting career and even when I played, to define
why an athlete playing a game deserve so much compensation
because a normal person can't understand it. A normal person

(18:38):
that I mean is just a person who works a
nine to five job and you know, gets an annual
salary and stuff like that and struggling to put you know,
food on their table or whatever. They're striving to keep
a house over their head, trying to better themselves for
you know what they believe it is truly the American life,
liberty and the pursuit of happiness. So but but you
can't understand why, you know, at the height of my career,

(18:59):
I was making formally dollars to keep people off for quarterback.
Quantified today guys making ten twelve million dollars to keep
a guy for quarterback. How is that possible? How do
you so the general public can't understand that. With that
being said, I've often had the conversation, well, it's Tom
Cruise worth twenty million dollars every movie he does good
or bad. Oh no, he made some good ones, but

(19:20):
he made some bad ones. Yeah, but he's an Oscar
Award winning actor, so he gets a minimum. That's where
his contract starts every time he does a movie. Oh well,
then you kind of put it. It's the market like
you said, it's the market value. So it's again you're right,
you're dead right. You got listen, players deserve every cent desserve.

(19:40):
They deserve every cent. You know you can compensate, Listen,
especially football players. Oh my god, right, I mean you
want to talking about you're risking your life while you are,
you are risking your lynten, you know, I mean that's real.
That is a real deal. I mean, I'm sorry you're

(20:00):
pitching you're gonna be living in in in a five
star bubble easy with your risk in your life. Well,
I mean look, and I understand what he's trying to say.
With everybody wants everybody wants the right thing in a
sense of safety, you don't mind coming back to work
if you know their safety. You hear stories every day
on news of places that are working and are going
you know, full speed, that don't have the safety. You

(20:22):
have people complaining and I think everyone agrees with that.
I don't mind totally what everything like Snail said. I mean,
I don't mind totally. I don't mind. I mind parts
of what he said. There are other parts that you
don't need to mention. You don't need to talk about
your money because now, in the time of where people
are struggling, nobody wants to hear about your guaranteed contract,

(20:42):
no matter what it is. Just say, you know what
I don't. I don't want to play until it's safe again,
that's all I ask, and sure my safety and I
don't I don't. I don't blame him one bit about that,
not one bit. I don't blame him. You've got a
problem and you don't feel safe, that by all means,
and uh, don't don't play, don't pitch, and so I mean,

(21:04):
I can see that. But when you throw your salary
in it, Oh, I gotta get my money, man, I
get I gotta give my money. Oh, come on down,
because it's amazing about him too, though. This is amazing
because Lincoln he also about a month ago, ripped the pandemic,
ripped the substage overblown. Really, yeah, he's not doing himself

(21:27):
any favors. Yeah, it was overblown. Now now it's not
over blown not or now yeah, I gotta get my money.
But even even more so for a picture, because you
talk about we we talked about athletes in general. You know,
Lebron James is going to go out there and play
every game, right, But a picture pitches what every third,
fourth day, for amount of any fifth day, whatever it is.

(21:47):
I don't know what the roseate typical rotation is, but
you know what I'm saying, it's not it's not it's not.
It's not like you're an every day guy, you know
what I mean, Or you're you're setting yourself out there.
I mean, I got the listen baseball bats. I love
the sport, and he's a terrific picture and the whole thing.
My only point is is that you've got people you go,
you get. I'm sure he gets a lot of meat

(22:10):
delivered to his house, right well, those poor people and
the meat processing plants across the country are coming down
with the virus their family. I mean, the stories are
you know, one after another, lilitany of them of horror stories.
Just be cognizant. So I'm not asking the right to check.

(22:33):
I'm not asking you to do anything but keep your
mouth shut, just be quiet, stop complaining and listen. And
I agree, and that the owners started the thing, so
they're equally at fault. I mean the fact that that
sport and it goes back to Rob Manfred, He's gotta
be like, hey, guys, we we can't allow this stuff

(22:57):
to be out in the public. You have to have
nobody has to talk. Get you know, Tony Clark here,
and let's get this thing figured out. Because the last
thing we need to look like is the millionaire fighting
the billionaire thing. While this country is at its worst

(23:19):
than thirty and fifty years, we haven't seen this kind
of economic distress. The last thing you need is to
have millionaires and billionaires bickering overcoming back to play baseball.
It's just unbelievable to me. The sport is run so

(23:40):
poorly that you would have that out in the media,
the business aspect. I understand, you can't. You can't do
it publicly. Totally agree, unreal, linking, unreal. I mean, I
I'm out of my mind. Oh, I'm so angry this sport.

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They killed this sport, the people that run this sport.
Look at look at this sport and what it's, what
it's been through, what they've done to it. God, figure,
how are you figuring? Good morning, sunshine. I'm sorry in
a good mood today it sounds like dude, I'm sorry,

(24:26):
but I I you know, what's right. He's right now.
I get you, I understand. I don't disagree. His gripes
are right. But he shouldn't have said it publicly. It's
a bad look right now, and especially the way he
said it to you Gotta. I mean, yeah, it sounds
like a he sounds like a spoil Brett, even just
in general. Trevor Bauers said it better on Twitter, but
but he shouldn't have said it either. You know, none

(24:47):
of the players should be speaking on This is something
they should have a discussion with Tony Clark and then
having he have a discussion with the owners and Rob
Manfred about this behind closed doors. This is not something
that should be handled in the public. I don't know why.
I mean, I know why. It is whatever or you know,
is leaking information to the athletic and other media outlets
about what this alleged proposal is, and then players are

(25:07):
doing their twitches or TikTok's or whatever. The heck of
stuff is nowadays, and it gets out there the the
owners are trying to make the players look greedy, and
the players are trying to make the owners look greedy.
And that's that's what it's turned into. And that's where
you have a weak commissioner and he's got to be like, yo, guys,
the last thing we need is to play this out

(25:27):
in the public, because you know what the public says,
are you kidding me? All of you stay away because
you know, you know, you know. I had to ride
a poll on my show this week, and I and
the poll was, if the NBA and the NHL radder
seasons through August, which would be the bridge to football,

(25:50):
would you care if baseball came back? Ever? Right? Ever,
almost fifty percent said no, they don't care. That's these
are hard core sports people that said they don't care
if baseball comes back. Ever, that's pretty damning. Now. Yeah,

(26:11):
although someoneld argue they haven't played baseball in Philadelphia for
like ten years anyway, So thank you link for Let's
not gree with him, but but you're in in a
grand scheme. You're right. Your baseball is definitely it has
gone from America's past time over the last thirty years
to basically, I mean, no one pays attention to it

(26:34):
at this point, you know, especially in the middle months,
the dog days as we call it. So if you
were to take especially the NBA and smack that right
into the late spring, early summer, or even late into
the summer, if you're talking about playing into August, baseball
would definitely get overshadowed at least that part of the
season for sure, and people will kind of come around.
It almost turned into like the college basketball season. People

(26:55):
start carrying down the stretch of the season and into
into the playoffs. But it's gonna get overshadowed by the
more popular sport, which would be the NBA and and
and you have to blame the m they'l be leadership
off because on that you can't again you turn off
the public. Yeah, you come me seriously, gotta dude, Bryce Harper,

(27:17):
who who sided a ridiculous contract that there's no way,
no no humans worth unless he's creating a vaccine for coronavirus, right,
and he's talking about how Blake's tell man dog get
the hell out of here, dude, Go get a clue,
all right, Go get a clue and shut the bleep up.

(27:37):
I mean, wick An, you know this old school guys,
and you know old school guys from back in the day,
they would slap the taste out of his mouth. Absolutely, absolutely,
you're a pictures complaining. Unbelievable, of all people, a pictures complaining.

(27:58):
It's unreal. I think I don't mean it to be
a downard today. Oh no, it's okay. I'll get excited
about some German soccer. It will come out perfect. You're
just spitting truth, brother, That's what I love about you.
It's all good. Some news came out of the NFL
on Friday. They're having their virtual owners meetings on Tuesday.
One of the biggest topics are going to be broaching
is whether or not to make some changes to the

(28:19):
Rooney rule. Now this is coming from NFL dot com.
They said the league is considering a proposal that would
allow teams to move up in the third round of
the draft the next year's draft if they hire minority
coaches or general managers. Teams would also be rewarded with
compensatory picks if a minority assistant coach on their staff
gets a coordinator job elsewhere. As of now, there are

(28:41):
just two minority general managers in the NFL and four
minority head coaches. The league also announced team facilities will
be allowed to reopen on Tuesday as well, although assistant
coaches and non rehabbing players will not be permitted on
the premises, and attorneys for Seahawks cornerback Quentin Dunbar and
John's cornerback DeAndrea Baker if they have FA Davis from

(29:01):
witnesses proving their client's innocence in the armed robbery charges
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(29:21):
How about that story? Like that is something that is
something And I'm I'm a little divided on that because
I would hate to think that you can't get a
job based on your own merits. But I do know,
and I'm talking about the uh I'm talking about the
arm robbers. I saw that. I was like, wait, yeah, Like,

(29:46):
I don't know about you guys, but it's stating like Fig,
you jump in here that it was just a party,
there was some gamble that was involved. At some point
a large sums of money was lost. Um, what we're
gonna do to you? Yeah, and they wanted to recoup
their losses in one way, shape or form allegedly or reportedly. Now,

(30:06):
there are a few witnesses, and this is talking about
the affidavits that both of the gentlemen's lawyers are speaking of.
Whoever these witnesses were that gave testimony to the police
or have basically backed out of it and changed course,
or there are a few others who apparently weren't interviewed
and said that some of the events that were initially
reported to what have happened didn't happen. So I'm not

(30:27):
exactly sure what direction this thing is going to try.
I know, the local authority says the warrant is still
out for both gentlemen, so they have not you know,
called off the warrants so that those are still still
active as of now. That's crazy, like what what is that?
Oh my god, that's crazy, insane. But get yeah, let's

(30:51):
get to the proposed rule, the trying to do the
rooty rule. Fig dou of favor because you had it
in the update. Give us the deep tales of the
compensatory picks that would be involved. So the way that
it breaks down, and now as I understand it, so
if you hire a minority general manager and head coach,

(31:11):
let's just say that, let's put this in the maximum
category that you can be favored. You could actually move
up sixteen spots from your position in the third round
of the draft. And now, depending of where where you
fall in the third round, that can move up to
as high as the second round. This is an incentive
that you will received for hiring a general manager and
a head coach. Now, if you are already uh, if

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you already have a assistant coach on staff, say it's
a running backs coach or a receiver's coach, they get
hired away from you to go to another team as
a coordinator, so they, in a sense, get a promotion.
You will get a compensatory pick for that as well.
If you hire a quarterbacks coach that happens to be
a minority, and that minority coach finishes an entire year,

(31:54):
remains on this stay have headed into the next year,
you will also get a compensatory pick for that. So
teams are getting being rewarded essentially for having cultivating, hiring
minority general managers and head coaches in the league, and
they're trying to incentivize it by adding draft capital to that.
That's interesting. You know, listen, something needs to be done

(32:16):
because the numbers speak for themselves. Oh yeah, I think
he he had one of his updates. You had the numbers.
What was that thinking like two out of twenty? What
what I'm talking about the status far as minority coaches?
And well, there was currently two general managers and there's
four minority head coaches as of now right, and I
believe three of the last twenty head coaches was the

(32:36):
statu I will leave I had three of the last
coaches that were hired were minorities. Yeah, so so what
do you think? What do you what do you let me? Uh,
let's let's do this. Let's come back and let's have
a discussion on this. And because it's it's a big
deal of rewarding draft picks is a big deal. It is,
so let's let's figure out if that is fair. But again,

(33:00):
what's not fair is that you could see the numbers
and thinking just gaming to you, that's not fair hiring
practices either. So does do we need to have a
drastic measure in place? So let's have the conversation straight
ahead about it. We are the Fellas looking Kennedy Anthony

(33:21):
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(33:46):
Recommence as things start to open up again. NASCAR later
this weekend. We got some golf tomorrow with Rory and
the match. We'll talk about Ricky Valor and did that
a little bit as well. So little by little it
starts to come back. Will we see the other sports?

(34:08):
Will we see baseball? We'll see if the creeps can
somehow get together and play. Yeah, if it's you know,
not too much trouble. Uh n b A. I do
still think plays. I was told again that we'll have
it and it'll be in Orlando. I was told Orlando,

(34:29):
we'll have it and they'll go after a title makes
more sense in Vegas. It doesn't you think so, I like,
I like Vegas, but don't get me wrong, it's I
don't I don't know how. I don't know how you
go to a city like Vegas and you just work.
Just Orlando's more family oriented and it's a lot slower

(34:51):
than Vegas. I just and I can get that. I
could see that, But I don't know how you go
to Vegas and just work. Yeah that's interesting. Um yeah,
I can dig it, brother, I can dig it, that's
for sure. So I do think basketball comes back. I
think we get it, and uh, I do think it's

(35:11):
sometime in July. And uh, I think we want to
having the playoffs, right, I mean, I can see the
playoffs happening, and um, you know, I mean, I I
it's funny. Let me ask you real quick and we're
gonna get to we'll have a deeper conversation into the
NFL and what to do with minority hiring when we

(35:33):
have a little bit more of a segment coming up
and and just a little bit. But I do want
to ask you because Shack said it's a waste, it's
it's an asterix next to it, Why play it? I
don't agree with that. I mean, well, in a sense,
it's going to be different. It's different for everyone, but still,
you know that I think if there's an ability to

(35:54):
do it, it's not like a strike where you're hiring
replacement players, you see what I'm saying, because that would
be a shame. You know, you you had something that
has been, like you said, unprecedented, that's happened in your lifetime,
and no one can really know how to handle this situation.
You want to just try to get back to some
sense of normalcy. I think that the season deserves to
be finished. We've seen some good basketball to this point.

(36:16):
It deserves to have a champion crown, whomever it might be. Yeah,
you know what, It's funny because I kind of think
the same thing. I like to me, like, who cares?
Like this play? You know? Is it that big a deal?
Like they Shackson's bogus. I was having an argument during
the week saying, I don't think it's bogus, but a

(36:37):
lot of people believe that. Well, you know, there was
too much of a break. Who cares? But again, you
still got a lot of games in. It wasn't like
you know, you played in the march. Yeah, you saw
a pretty decent product, an amount of product. And and again, yeah,
you did play pretty much most of the season. But
like I yeah, I don't really deter it. It's different

(37:00):
because no one has ever experienced this. It would be
different to me if they say, you know what, we're
not going to have the normal players who want to
have replacement players, that would be different. See, that would
be different. I was like, oh, you know, but don't
even waste the time. You're not gonna have you know,
Lebron James and those guys out there, You're not gonna
do that. That would be a waste of time. But
since they'll come back, it'll be a little different. Teams
that will have a chance to heal up might make
a little difference. And and I don't I don't even

(37:20):
think that you need to put an asterisk by it
because again we we found out since then the World
Serious Champs was we're cheating. We didn't put an ASTERICD
by their championship. You see what I'm saying. So, I
mean things have happened in the past. This is just
really different. In a difficult time, it deserves to be
capitalized with the champion, whoever it might be. I mean
you tall Jazz might come out and winning. What he

(37:42):
was saying that because you know everything that happened, they
don't really they're not really a champion. Well, they played
and they want it's just this way it ends way
it happened. Yeah, and I'm with you, fellas. By the way,
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(38:05):
limit tastes apply. Yeah, I'm with you. I like to
be you know, everybody's an equal footing, so he got rests.
In fact, we should see incredible a playoff war. We're
talking about playoff battles. Everybody's rested. Now. I grant you
gotta get back into you know, more playing shape. But
you're all healed up, you're ready to defend forty eight minutes.

(38:28):
I think it could be kind of interesting. And you
recall that we were you know, there were times last
earlier in the season we were talking about, you know,
the playload where guys were resting every other day. Well,
now it should be full all all hands on deck.
It should be full everyone forward, you know what I mean,
moving forward to to chase that title. And there's really
no we're not resting guys. There's gonna be some nights,
gonna be back to back games and coaches have got

(38:50):
away a manager minutes. But you know, we're not sitting
down this guy because he worked too hard last night.
It's you're right. It should be some good basketball. Yeah,
you know, it's funny. I'm looking forward to it. I
hope we get it. I hope. Uh. I can't wait
for it. I'm pumped up about it. Uh. It's kind
of what I've been looking for. Ah. I think it's

(39:12):
gonna be fun and entertaining and different. And as long
as it's not some kind of bogus you know, n
C double a tournament style. I think it's legitimate, figgy,
and you think it's legitimate. I don't know if anything
you do this year short of finishing the regular season

(39:33):
and having legit postseason is gonna be legit. So I
mean getting some semblance of the remainder of the season,
and so these guys can get back in there and
we can be entertained and they can have some semblance
to wrap up. Some closure to the season will take.
But I don't this is gonna be this is not
gonna be looked at. I don't think as any sort
of legitimate champion unless they play the remainder. Should you

(39:55):
say it's bogus? Yes, that sounds strong word to use,
but that's what you're saying. You know, it's not mince
words here. You think it's bogus. So you think unless
they can play a full postseason, yes, well I'm I'm
going under the assumption that they're gonna play a full
post Yeah. If they can, then sure, then it's no
different than the eighty one Major League Baseball season where

(40:17):
they stopped halfway through, they started back up and played
a second half and they that was different. But no
one looks as the at the Dodger title over the
Yankees any differently. So if you're able to play the
similars of the whole season, sure, all right, well let's
do let's discuss that as well. We're the fellas licking Kennedy,
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(40:59):
rate quotes. Well, Lincoln lots to talk about. As we
are talking about Blake Snell's comments major League Baseball and
the bickering with its players. Jeff Passing from ESPN had
predicted that it would get ugly, and it's amazing to

(41:24):
me that baseball would go down this road that Rob Manfred,
who was supposed to be the custodian of Major League Baseball,
the man who looks out for Major League Baseball, will
would allow its owners and players to picker in a
public forum when this has been such a trying, trying time. Well, yeah,

(41:50):
but I also think that it was it was about
to happen by one or two sports. If it wasn't
gonna be basketball, you weren't gonna hear these types of
comments from basketball players. They would have to be baseball
because this whole thing started basically at the beginning of
their season. And if we've learned anything from you know,
what we've seen around, you know, just the sports world

(42:11):
in general. People often try to use these times, especially
troubling times, and it's it's it's it's awkward to say
the least, but I try to use these troubling times
as as leverage, negotiation leverage, whether it be the owners,
well we're gonna have a short season, so you need
to take half the half the money you make, or
trying to justify their position, or the players taking a

(42:31):
stand like this while I'm not playing, but you don't
give me all my money I'm not playing. I mean,
it's unfortunate, but these trying times, you're gonna see the
worst of all sides involved. Yeah, now you're right, you're right.
The worst of mankind comes out and the best of it. Right, Like,
we've seen the best of it, and we've all seen

(42:53):
it's some amazing heroic clamper lamp per vy. I can't
even say the word now, you know what I mean,
But just giving and charity and people going out of
their ways and try to sacrifice and help their fellow man. Yeah,
we have. You know, we've seen doctors and nurses and
front lines and yeah, without doubt, all the hospital personel
the medical people. I mean, you know, goes through true heroes,

(43:15):
unlike baseball plays. I what don't say about baseball? Can
I ask you? Why is holcome Baseball players are the
are the more the the bigger percentage of despicable dudes?

(43:35):
Why is that? I don't really necessarily believe that. But
of all the sports, of all the sports, I really
don't believe that. I mean, there is covered all four sports, right,
so I've encountered, I know, guys from all four sports,
and I listen, I'm, I'm you know, I'm give you
a hyperbole with baseball, but there are in ordered it

(43:56):
amount of jerks in baseball hair to other sports. I mean,
I'll take your word for it, because I don't know
a whole lot of baseball players per se. I mean,
I've often had my own impression of baseball players. You know,
I thought a lot of them for for lack of
a better word, it's soft. I mean, going on what
they used to, you know, call the disabled list with

(44:16):
you know, hangnail when he's down, sum he cut his thumb,
so come on now. But but that's just that's just
my but. But at the same point, you know, the
when the guys that I have. I mean, there's been
a lot of jerks I've been around and and and
and like in football and basketball and stuff like that.
So I'll take your word for it when he comes
to baseball players, but there are a lot of just
jerks out there now, I know, I I it's just

(44:40):
odd to me that, um it just feels that way now. Yeah,
I don't know Figgy or I don't know I figg
he's still doing his update if he's encountered that encountered
what I mean here, guys. More like to me, I've
covered all four sports right, the major teams sports baseball, basketball, football,

(45:02):
and hockey, and it's not even close. I've encountered way
more j os in baseball. Um, And I'm trying to
think about what I don't know if you have or
what your experiences. And I'm not saying all of them
because obviously not been there the guys that are princes
and great people. So my my, I've lifelong friends who

(45:26):
are you know, baseball players and the whole thing. But
I mean, if I want to keep it real way
where I way better football guys, way better basketball guys,
way better hockey guys. Yeah, I probably would say as
far as the best hockeys at the top, those guys
are phenomenal. Deal with the Kings a lot over the years.

(45:46):
They're great. Um, But honestly, basketball and baseball, if you're
talking about a bunch of j l's, it's probably neck
and neck in my experience, UM, to be honest with you, Um,
both both obviously has some have some really great guys,
but others have some some dudes who could be pretty prickly.
So yeah, so they're probably Yeah, I feel you, man,

(46:09):
I completely feel you for no reason too. That's the
frustrating part, you know, just for the sake of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Bro, God,
I do you come off? It's kind of a douche, right,
like to put them mildly. Oh my god. Oh, there's

(46:30):
nothing worse than a captain douche. There's nothing worse than that.
Oh my lord. All I kept thinking about was if
I had like something in my hand to throw at him,
I would I would love it. Oh that bro, come on,
do what you do? What's up with that? Ye? For

(46:53):
bad man? That's just terrible. And you know it's funny
because they free the worst out of you, and I
hear you are like, like, all all Joe Public right
wants to do besides survive and pay his bills and
feed his family and you know, get a paycheck. Right,
besides all that, just watch the ball game, right, watch sports? Right?

(47:16):
That's only I thought my man wants to do is
watching game. We're talking about a game. That's all he
wants to watch. He doesn't need all his nonsense, right, Like,
that's cool, Bro, what I'm trying to get paid? Bro?
Cool deal? Bro? Oh my god? And again he does.

(47:38):
I mean, he has a point. He just shouldn't have
said it. That's the issue point. Just don't say don't
say it out loud, say it to say it behind
closed doors to the people, like to the people. Lincoln
can actually do something about it, which is not us.
Say it's a Tony Clark having to have a negotiation.
Like we all understand the owners. You already negotiate it.

(48:00):
You were gonna take less, and now they're coming back
asking for more. I'm not saying it's right what they did.
You have a right to be upset by it. But
I just know the temperature of the room. Brother, you
know what I mean, I know who you're talking to.
It's all to a bunch of people who have been
fired or furloughed or should just say laid off for
for exactly. People are not gonna have sympathy for you. Unfortunately,

(48:20):
you won't be able to make seven million. You're only
gonna make three this year. Sorry. Some people won't make anything.
It's all that's all you gotta do. Like we you know,
the owners are are their own uh special class of creeps.
Like we've got that. You know, nobody's gonna relate to
the billion there, right, Like we all think about this

(48:43):
for a second. I don't know, Like, were you ever
involved in a in a in a dispute, a labor dispute. No, no, yeah,
because it was before you. I guess the lockout was
the lockout the well, the strike was before me and
the lockout was after me. One of the reasons why
I got out of league when I did. But I

(49:06):
think more people what I would have the player or
on the player's side, because you were relating the player, well,
it's my player, my favorite guys. Nobody roots for the
shoot right, I mean the player, the players, I mean
they are the millionaires, but they are still labor. So
most of us can relate more to that than we

(49:26):
can to the people who are signing the checks upstairs,
you know exactly. That's the point. You're you're dead right,
waite you guys, You guys couldn't relate to to Jerry
Jones doing the virtual draft from this twound fifty when
you know what, you guys can't relate to that so much.
I mean, you know you don't. You don't have a
man cave like that. I know you do, of course. Yeah. Yeah,

(49:48):
it's literally a cave exactly. It's other an amountica pere. Yeah,
it'll cost you, trust me, all right. Uh, we're gonna
come back, and I do want to have a discussion

(50:08):
on the news at at hand today, which is the
report about minority hiring and what to do about new
proposal about competatory draft picks to entice owners to make
minority hires. So we'll get into that a little bit.

(50:29):
I have a discussion on that, and also, guys are
gonna have some fun with this because I don't know
if you saw ESPN dot com ranked it's top seventy
four NBA players, and I got all, yeah, I got
all kinds of thoughts and and arguments. I argue this

(50:49):
list for three days for three days this week. Wow. Really, yeah,
I'm a loser. But we will, we will, we will
do that, and it'll be you have fun with it
for for a little bit. I promise. We're the Fellas
hanging out with you right here on Fox Sports Radio.
The Fellas, because I'm known as a big Link, were

(51:10):
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was in the green room with the NFL Network back
in two thousand five, and I remember we were we

(51:32):
were talking about you have a production meeting for the
upcoming show. And this was shortly after Mike McCarthy got
the head coaching job at at at Green Bay UM,
and we were discussing the fact that, you know, why
do we think there's so few minority coaches in the
National Football League. And even back then, I said, you know,

(51:55):
I had to certainly protect my words because I didn't
want to come off as two over the top. So
actually working for the NFL network. But I did believe
that was like a good old boys network. They had
their mind made up on who they want to hire
when they want to fire a guy. Um. And then
when the Rooney rule came out, you know, before then
I thought, well, this gives you know, it's it's forcing
teams to interview players, I mean the coaches possible coaching

(52:19):
minority coaches is forcing everybody to do it. But still
they you found ways that the owners were circumventing the rules,
and and I got tired of seeing the same old
tires be just placed on another car. You know, these
coaches just traveling around and still getting the jobs over
and over again, and despite their lack of success. That
the reason why they got fired from their last place,
going to a new place and thinking that things are

(52:40):
going to change. I say that to say this. When
I first heard about this proposal for the incentives for
minority hiring, I was a little I was a little
mixed by it because though I want to see guys
get a chance, more guys get a chance, especially of color.
I you know, I would hate the fact that we're

(53:01):
only hiring you because we think we can move up
in the draft or you know, or something like that.
It's got to be the INCENTI incentiicide like that you start,
is that too much of a is it too much
of of a of compensation? Right? And and look there,
I don't know. I've never been in I've never interviewed

(53:22):
for head coaching jobs, so I don't know what goes
on during those times. But I would have thought by
now somebody like the enemy Kansas City Chiefs offensive coordinator
along with Andy Reid would have had a chance, especially
when you look at the record of what he did,
and you know how much of a cookie cutter the
league this is. I mean you look at nagging and
look at other people disciples that came out of that
tree and how they got jobs. But you talk about

(53:43):
the media capital world in New York and a guy
comes out of virtually the shadows by the name of
Joe Judge and he gets he gets the head coaching
job in New York. Huh, who who's this guy? I mean,
I don't know about you. For for a long time,
I always thought that you would your way up the ranks.
You would, you know, started as a position coach and
maybe go to offensive and then you go a head

(54:06):
coaching chance or come out of college. You know you
have some head coaching experience. But you know, for somebody
who was in New English, case he was a special
teams coach. He doesn't have any head coaching experiencing. Yet
you're going to bring him in as your head coach.
How do you how do you justify that over and
I'm not just saying that just people of color and minorities,
but I'm thinking over anyone else that has had head

(54:27):
coaching experience before in the past. How does that? How
does that? How does that fit? No? No, it's it's
it's unfathomable that Eric Bademy doesn't have a job head
coaching job, right, Yeah, Yeah, I mean I, like I said,
I don't know what goes into the interview, but I
have got to believe after a year where the Kansas

(54:48):
City Chiefs win the Super Bowl and they have one
of the most prolific offenses in NFL history, He's not
Andy Reid. He's not Andy Reid, but he he is
the part of that coaching staff. You wouldn't want to
You wouldn't want to have his minding your team or
leading your team, leading your offensive lease. Yeah, I agree. Yes, Yes,
I agree, I agree with you. I agree. I don't

(55:11):
understand it. I don't get it. I don't get a
little bit. I don't understand how that's possible. And I
do believe that owners have it in their mind when
they're ready to fire their coach, who they want. I do.
I do believe that. And whether it's you know, somebody
like Jerry Jones who brings McCarthy back, I think he
had a foregone conclusion where he wanted to go, even

(55:32):
before he let even before he let his offensive coordinator
as last coach go. Yes, I agree, I I think
you're right. I think he certainly wanted to want it him.
So it kind of, you know, when when Jason Garrett
left the Cowboys and everybody speculanty who's gonna get that job?
Who's gonna get that job? All the big names were
kind of thrown out there. I don't remember Mike McCarthy's

(55:54):
being in the mix initially, but they were like, oh,
who wants that? Who wants that Cowboys job? Has got
to be some new blood or got to be somebody
who's who's going to be able to work with Doc
and all this other stuff and open things up offensive.
So that's that's the only thing I like. I I
hear you, because here's the problem is that you gotta
get people of color to be quarterback people to work

(56:22):
to steer them more offense. Right right? How many how
many men of color who have been coaches came from
the defensive side. It seems like there's more guys of
color now from defense, right. I mean Art Shell was
an offensive line coach before he got the coach and
job at the Raiders. Um, and I'm I'm think I'm

(56:45):
going down the line of head coaches. You know. Tomlin
was what special teams especially, you know, So I mean,
I'm trying to think of all the coaches, figure he
might be able to bring think of something I'm not
coming to coming to my mind. But I just was
on Doungee's staff as a defensive guy. I think he
was like defensive backs, defensive special I thought with special teams.

(57:05):
But okay, yeah, but but I'm just saying you. You
you before, I thought it was like you would work
your way up the ranks. You start a position and
maybe get a defensive offensive coordinator job, and then the
next thing you know, you would be in line for
a head coach. Okay, they've they've kind of just jumped
over that. I mean, you've had guys that came out
of nowhere. Prior to Mike McCarthy getting a Green Bay job,
I had never heard of him and I didn't know

(57:26):
what staff he was on and he that So we
ask you, all right, so, so what do you do?
I think you're forced to do what the the NFL
is proposing, what what what Goodell is is standing behind.
I think you have to incentivize it. And it might
even say that word right, given centives towards it, you know,
you have to you have to. I think you have to.

(57:46):
You have to do that. You're you're forced to do
that if you want to show that there is parody
and you want to show that they you know, they're
you know, you're giving everyone a chance to to to
do their to do their thing, or at least try
eye it out and see what they can do. You
have to do something like this because the Rooney rule
has been circumvented in many ways. If I just bring

(58:08):
in a guy of color and talk to him, okay,
I supplied, I supplied to Rooney rule, right, And and
like I said, if you have it in your mind
where you're going, which I do believe most owners do
when they when they when they sit there and say,
you know what, I'm gonna let this coach go. I'm
gonna let this coach go right then and there, they
start thinking about who they want and depending on where
where the you know where, they think that the strength
of their team offense or defense is the idea where

(58:31):
where you're gonna go. And and for the most part,
it's not even the lower of college coaches, because the
most premier college coaches probably don't want to go at
the pro level. So you're forced to look within or
around the league, or you know, put the same old
tires on a on a new car and say, okay, mccarthury,
you come on over. You're the coach of the Cowboys.
And when it comes to that, Lincoln, I think you

(58:51):
guys are onto something. It's it's something that's very subversive.
You know. All the way back in the day, they
didn't think that minorities and specifically African Americans can play
the quarterback position, and that has since been debunked. We've
had a lot of great quarterbacks throughout the years. But
how much is that trick. Has that trickled down to
offensive staffs. You know, you mentioned how many offensive masterminds

(59:11):
or offensive black head coaches have there been. There's not
that many. Anthony Lynne was a running back. That's one.
Jim Calwell, who I think got a raw deal in
both Indianapolis and Detroit. I agree, the terrific offensive minds.
Look what he did with Peyton, he did with Joe
Flacco in less than half a season and took them

(59:32):
to the super Bowl. How great black he turned them
around that year. But just how many other like you
know which left which is under the two was under
the tutelage of Bruce Arians. He's he's the quarterbacks coaching
and an offensive coordinator. Now he's well respected, UM and
were now progressive Bruce Arians is. But just generally speaking,
throughout the years, you just not have black former quarterbacks

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are just offensive coaches just have not gotten the same opportunities.
At least it seems like it the interview, And I
wonder if it's just a it's more of the subversiveness
going back before where black people couldn't be quarterbacks and
now yeah, defensively, it's more of you're perceived to be Oh,
it's all about aggression and from downhill and attacking offensively.
You have to use your mind. You have to be

(01:00:16):
more savvy. And I wonder if there's a little bit
of subversiveness they're saying that you can't they don't have
the mental acuty to be able to do it. Yeah,
now I think you're I think you're right. It goes
back to exactly what you said about the quarterback position.
I mean, how long how long we we did we have?
We did? We discussed black quarterbacks for right up until

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up until recent history. I mean, you know that was
a huge deal. Yeah, people thought like, oh it's over
once Doug Williams won the Super Bowl. Is like, no,
carried on much further after that, a lot longer after that,
because then when it's turned into is all the black
quarterbacks are just really athletic and they run around all
the time, but they can't really beat you from the pocket, right.

(01:01:02):
You know, it's like every time one bearer gets knocked down,
another another one pops up. Oh yeah, and and now
I feel like there's another one here. When it comes
to to minorities trying to get head coaching jobs or
even just offensive coordinator jobs, and when they do succeed,
like in Eric Biney Kenny can't even get interviews. And
that blows my mind. I mean, I don't you've seen

(01:01:22):
you've seen coaches. You've seen hires that have done less
a year before the season before and and again, I
don't know what goes into the process or know what
questions I asked. I don't, But I know Eric personally
and he's a bright guy, and I definitely like what
he's done with Andy Reid. It's been very creative. They
they've they've done well together over their time together, so
it's not just a one hit wonder. I'm surprised that

(01:01:45):
he doesn't have a job, head coaching job, A great man.
I don't know. Interesting, Um, I don't understand it. And
Andy's terrific at placing his guys too, right you, I'm
I'm shocked by it, quite frankly. I don't. I don't,
I don't. I'm still they'll get one next year. You

(01:02:07):
know it's locked well now that the pressure is coming
out there. But but but but see, you have to
go to such extremes to see that happen. Because somebody,
tell me, who the hell is Joe Judge, I wouldn't
know exactly. Well, here's the other Israeli issue with Joe

(01:02:28):
Judge is that we've seen guys on Belichick staff fail
one after another. Yeah, I think most of maybe all
of them have, you know, right, Like, I mean, we've
seen them all fail. Like, I don't understand why they
keep going back to that well they stink. Really, I'm

(01:02:49):
you know, I'm just being real about it. They're not
good because none of them are Belichick right now. Brian
Flores is one of them, and he's you know, he's
obviously he's one of the four minds already coaches down
there in Miami. So so there's that at least, but again,
defensive guy. So yeah, man, you know again, I just

(01:03:09):
don't I don't get it. Do you think there's an
element of like, for lack of a better term, of
pandering too, Like you have to go to such an
extreme to where I mean, it's still a kind of
a bastardization of the process. We have to go through
all these incentives and give people draft picks, and we
know important draft capital is just to entice you to
hire a minority. How many people are gonna be not forced?

(01:03:31):
But like well, we like you, but we don't like
you that much, but you can get us draft pick. Yeah,
if you're gonna do that, it's it's it's kind of shameful.
It is, it is, and that's why that's why I said,
I had mixed reactions when I heard about this. You
gotta go to this much to get a brother that
we hired. I mean, come on, I I brother, get

(01:03:57):
a job, get a job. What do you have to do?
All right, well take it away. Yeah, So more specifics
on that matter. This is a report. They came from
NFL media. This is going to be discussed at the
owners meetings on Tuesday. The meetings, of course going to

(01:04:18):
be held remotely this year. But teams that hire and
retain minority minority head coach for at least a year,
they will move up six spots in the third round
of the draft proceeding that coach is second season on
the job. Teams would also receive compensitory picks in the
fifth round if minority coaches leave for coordinator jobs, and
third round compisitory picks if an assistant leaves for a

(01:04:40):
head coaching or GM job. That measured would require twenty
four of thirty two votes from the virtual from the
owners at the owners meetings that take place next week
and the Commissioner. Goodell also sent the memo to all
thirty two teams saying that they can reopen their facilities
next week as long as they meet a pre established
number of safety protocols and of course have permission and
from their state and local legislatures. Assistant coaches and players

(01:05:03):
who are not rehaving from injury will not be permitted
as of now. And speaking of teams being permitted back
into practice facilities in the NBA, the Lakers the latest
team who will open their practice facility coming up later
this afternoon, and they were a poort from Sports Illustrator
says the n c Double A Division One Council could
lift a nationwide moratorium on on campus summer activities. This

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will clear the way for athletes to return to require
non voluntary workouts and practices as early as June one.
Fellas back to you, Well, it's a big deal that
paves the way for college football. Yep, I mean, I
can we digress for just a moment here, don't we
always like I want college football back bad? You know,

(01:05:50):
like I I want to see it. You know bad,
but I am worried about all of a sudden everything
reopens and and then all of a sudden there's a
there's a spike, a dramatic spike. Well, you saw what
Mark Emirate said on Friday. He says, I mean, it's
it's pretty much inevitable that some of our athletes are

(01:06:11):
going to you know, fall victims and get infected with
the COVID nineteen. It's just the stats will tell you that. Yeah,
And how are we handling that when that happens, right,
you know, I don't know, it's kinda it's kind of dicey, right,
Maybe it helps matters. A lot of these schools have

(01:06:33):
already come out and confirmed they're they're only gonna hold
online classes for the fall semester, because the initial talk
from Mark Emeralds was until the campuses opened up, we're
not going to let any students back in. Well, I
guess technically, on the technicality, the campuses are open because
schools will be in session. There just won't be as
many students there. Um, So maybe you can look at

(01:06:54):
it and say we're lessening exposure because they won't be
as many people on campus, and maybe that helps the
call is of getting this season underway to a degree. Yeah,
that's true. That's a good point. And when you think
about when you think about it just real quick, because
when you think about the financial ramifications of not having
you know, say college football for a number of programs,
we've already seen over the last couple of weeks. You know,

(01:07:15):
schools have have you know, shut down certain smaller programs,
sports programs, even though they want to honor the scholarships,
but they're just not gonna do it because they just
don't have the money. That's going to be that that's
going to be the sort of lasting effect of this
whole pandemic. Yeah, got saw Bowling Green shut down their
baseball program on Friday. Wow, just because we and we

(01:07:36):
just know, you know, college football to links point is
the cash cow for you know, a lot of these
schools of the athletic department. You know, yeah, if there
even if there if there's no sport, or even if
they have the sport without fans, which, by the way,
I think more so than any other sport, college football
is the one where you you really love and need
and feed off of that that college atmosphere with the

(01:07:59):
fans and the band to all of that. Um, but
how much, how much of a bite you know, in
the financial pie they're gonna take from that will be huge. Yeah. Yeah,
that's a great point man, And and I agree with
I mean, it's so tough to think about football without fans.
You know, you can give all the cut out Like

(01:08:20):
in Germany today they're talking about cutouts and having people
they're talking about in the NBA they dodn'tight do virtual crowds.
They talked about the NBA Tech Summit in Chicago during
the All Star Game this past winter where they turned
a ballroom hotel ballroom into the United Center and made

(01:08:40):
it feel like that with virtual reality. But you know,
it's tough without fans, man, the roar, the the emotion.
Football is such an emotional game, you know, right momentum.
I mean, jeez, be off without tough without fans. Like

(01:09:01):
I'm imagining, like you know, imagine ray Lewis out there
screaming and holler and it's like, oh you're screaming. It
was listening. Are the guys, the defensive guys. You know
it's starting twelve. You start popping up the crowd and
raising your arms and you realize there's no reaction whatsoever.
That's it's gonna be a weird it's a weird feeling. Yeah,
you gonna do a first down for what? Yeah? Right,

(01:09:24):
first out? It sucks, and you know that's shame because
that part of it kind of blues. To be honest
with you, it does. But if the alternative is no
football at all and then football with no fans, all
of us would obviously take that. Yeah, So it'll take
some adjusting to for at least a season or part
of a season, you know. Yeah, No, I agree with you.

(01:09:47):
I do all. I want to get to this because, um,
I'm a geek and I won't die for you guys opinion.
So ESPN did its top seventy four all time m
NBA guys. All right, So do you ever get clarity
as to why it was seventy four? That's a very
specific number. I have no idea anyways, but that's right,

(01:10:14):
it's really fascinating. So I want to have this discussion
and I wanted to marinate with you, all right, So
I'm gonna start off. I'll give you, Um, I want
to give you the lists and some notables, all right.
So one is Jordan's to Lebron three, Jabbar four, Russell five,

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Magic six, Wilt seven, Bird eight, Duncan nine, Kobe ten,
Shack eleven, Oscar twelve, The Dream thirteen, Steph Curry fourteen,
Kevin Durant fifteen, Dr j sixteen, Wet, Jerry West, karmelone,

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Moses malone, Dirk Navitsky nineteen, KG twenty, Scottie Pippen T one,
Elvid Hayes, Charles Barkley twenty three, The Admiral, David Robinson, Kawaie,
Leonard d Wade, Janis T seven, John Stockton, Iverson twenty nine,

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Steve Nash thirty, Isaiah Thomas thirty one, James Harden thirty two,
have let checked, George Mike and Jason Kidd, Kevin mcal
Patrick ewing, uh we uh well a little bit listen.

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That's important because there's some listen. I'm a geek, so
I want make sure we have the whole thing right.
George Pettitt is why I stumbled. I couldn't because this
is I wrote it all down as you can well
imagine Clyde Fraser, Chris Paul right, that's your forty and
some notables. Anti Davis is forty five, Dominique Wilkins forty six,

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Reggie Miller forty nine, were the fifty one mcgradey fifty two,
Gary Payton fifty three real and fifty six Clyde Drexler
fifty seven. Men. Uh. Then then then you got it

(01:12:46):
back that far, and that was all right. So let's
start first of all, let's start off with the top ten.
Do you guys agree with the top chat Jordan's lebron,
Jabbar Russell, Magic, Wilt Bird Junking, Kobe Shock. I would

(01:13:14):
put Kobe ahead that the centers are tough because I
don't know Bill Russell from Wilt Chamber, and you know again,
I saw a little bit of Wilt and Fall on film,
none of Russell. Essentially, I'm not the biggest Jabbar fan.
I don't know why he's three. Wait, wait, you don't

(01:13:34):
know why he's three. No, I don't why. Okay, I
don't know where I started. I don't know where to start.
You know, okay, you didn't see him play something. I
saw enough of him play on enough of his classic
games and enough of his numbers to know that he
was pretty hard to stop. Look at numbers, they aren't important.

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When he was unstoppable and every level he ever played at.
I don't know. It's Will Chamble unstoppable to a degree.
And he's up in the top ten two oh, he's
number six, bars, number three, criminal do jabbar as six titles,
just like m J. You wont every year he was
in college. The only year he didn't win the national
title he was a freshman. I'm just I'm just talking

(01:14:19):
about just that's fine if you just want the NBA's
a leading scorer in NBA history. What about what about Kobe?
Kobe is probably about where I think he should be.
I got Kobe over Bird. I could yeah, I could
debate that. For me, Kobe and Duncan are essentially neck
and neck, and quite honestly, you say KG is twenty.

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I think KG was better than Tim Duncan. That's a
glaring one for me. The only thing Duncan has over KG.
The only thing Duncan has our KG is more rings.
And I would argue that KG was to San Antonio,
they would have won just as much. That's why I expects.
I'm a big dunk of fan. I don't dislike I

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love KG. I'll tell you another guy who's on the
rating he's Dirk. Surely the German moses he's on the rating.
All right, we gotta say quick time out, but we're
gonna start arguing this thing. Great, see already we gotta arguments.
You guys were like, oh, we're gonna go do this

(01:15:24):
shabty like I'm like, time out. Well, dude, why do
you think? Why do you why do you think? I
said that the spark a debate. Let's go bad first.
I hate I hate the bar Well. I remember my

(01:15:47):
best memories, Doc shamming in his face. Take that, Kareem,
Hey your face? Where the felas right here on Fox
Sports Radio? All right, welcome back fellas. Look at Kennedy

(01:16:11):
and did he Gargano? What's my man burst doing? Hi? Hi,
good morning here he is he? Welcome o, wonderful nap? Yes,
thank you? The How did Chris is he? Is he okay? Today?

(01:16:31):
You know what? He's fine? He was able to say
he kept the volume low for me, so I got
some really good Yeah, he's been. He's been very generous
to me tonight. You're a good man, Chris. I doubt that.
All right. I appreciate the compliments, but in my in
my heart, I know I know, all right, I'm not

(01:16:54):
gonna argue with you from the guy coo fox spookdo.
I will figure out with the Java anyway, Mr Lake
and Daddy three your bar sounded something like that, sky

(01:17:15):
huk right, hate them, you can't. I can't let your
emotions get in the way about all right. But that's uh.
I am the most objective, um a couple of things
one staff thirteen. Come on, yeah, let me just let

(01:17:38):
me put my two cents in. This is These conversations
in my experience have always been subjective. That like who
you've seen and who you watch more of and you
can appreciate. I mean, I go back to Jordan's I
never saw that slam dunk competition between him and Wilkins.
I never saw a touch of finesse when he did
that tabletop dance uh dunk. I swore that he was

(01:18:00):
flying through the air sideways. That's how it looked from camera.
And then we and then Wilkins came back with you know,
three sixty power duck. I've never seen or Tom a
hawk dunk, and I've never seen a guy with such power.
Remember watching video of Dr Jay you know, glide through
the air and stuff. Like that what he was able
to do. And so you you have the ability like

(01:18:21):
Lebron James and Steph Curry of putting all that stuff
together and still being the first. I've never seen a
guy who can make a shot from anywhere on the
court like Steph Curry does. How how good is that?
You know? When it comes to the overall scheme of things,
I mean, Larry Bird was probably the the sweetest shooting
big man that I saw back in his time, and
that was amazing to what he could do. So this
is often subjective. These these lists are often subjective. Shot

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came out. There had never been a seven foot plus
man who was four hundred pounds on a basketball court,
and he just bullied everybody. Does that that mean he's
one of the best. It means he's the first? Who
ever do it like that? That's a good point link like,
because Steph, I don't think any of us can argue
as helped revolutionize the NBA to where it is or
to war was trending where guys like he and Damian
Little are pulling up five feet behind the arc. And

(01:19:05):
you know, even ten years ago you would say, God,
that's a horrible shot. And I was like, you better
guard that guy. You say that today because he's wide open. Yeah,
I agree, but it's more circus than than it is
great all around greatness. Also, Steph Curry is one of
the better ball handlers we've seen in recent mon alright,
without a doubt. Again, I mean to say that he

(01:19:26):
doesn't belong at thirteen is not slight. I recognized his greatness,
but we're talking about the greatest of all time. Well,
he still he's got two skills. He shoots the ball
and he can handle it. I mean it's also you
can also argue you and Link brought up shock a
second ago. You could argue that Shack at one skill
boil you over and dunk. But he was so dominant

(01:19:49):
the shop blockers. Not as good as a rebounder as
people think. But he was lazy at times because I'd
seen him grab twenty boards. I mean he could, he could,
he could board, Yeah, he and he he was. But
he was a monster, no doubt, because you've never seen

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anybody like that, dude. I mean his size do that before.
I mean, look at look at the most notable I
mean the most notable, but the big man in the
back of that day I appreciate Ewing because he had
a nice to attend to fifteen foot jumper. But he
wasn't He wasn't was sweet. He was fluid, I mean
he was he It was priceless to see the dream move,
you know what I mean. So there was a first

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for everyone. But Shack was like four hundred pounds. He
was just bullying people like Bradley and the other the
center centers that were no one could stop him. Even
I came, by the way, in the NBA Finals, when
people say I came just worked over Shack, Shaq got
all of his averages against the Kim too offensively, by
the way, that gets lost on people. I don't know.
I'm like, I don't know why we're even arguing Shack,

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And be honest, right, I don't argue. I'm already Curry
and I have coming up there. Who needs to be higher?
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(01:21:15):
dot com for a free rate quote talk. I've been
all over the place this morning as we get ready
to bring a sports back. I'll share some sports back.
We got German soccer coming up just about ninety minutes
from now on the pitch. We'll have NASCAR tomorrow on Fox.

(01:21:37):
We'll have some golf. So we got we're starting to
get some of our beloved games back, which we cannot
wait for. So we're talking about basketball. We've been all
over talking about Blake Snell and the blowhards, major League
Baseball owners, major League Baseball players once again bickering while

(01:22:03):
the rest of us endure the pandemic. It's still amazing.
I blanch at this idea of risking lives. If it's
deemed that you it's unsafe, then you can't play rights.
Bottom line, if it's unsafe to play, then you don't play. Right.

(01:22:30):
Let's not. Let's not again, act like you're a hospital
worker and you're risking infection every day. Come on, come
on now, Blake, come on, bro come on bro Uh.
We've been talking about the report which is very interesting
about potential compensatory draft picks two two NFL teams in

(01:22:57):
regards to minority how hiring to try to get somehow
that rudy rule for not just compliance but actual positions.
And again we've been batting around this NBA list that
was on ESPN and talking about where certain guys are

(01:23:18):
nothing better than in the bar of debating the rankings,
and so the let me give you once again the
top twenty Jordan Lebron, Jabbar Russell, Magic, Wilt Bird, Duncan,
Kobe Shack. If we need the top ten alone. The
rest was kind of interesting because guys are way too high,

(01:23:42):
like Steph Carry at thirteen, Kevin Duran at fourteen, Doc
at fifteen, uh, most of Malone pretty low at eighteen,
carb alone at seventeen, Dirk Night ten kg. You can
make the case you'll be higher twenty pippagee one barkleyree,

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my guy, Kauai letter, I think that's low. I'll tell
you that there's no way that Steph Curry should be
wrecked ahead of Kauai letter. Oh m hm, you sound
like you disagree, my bro. Like we said last hour,

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Like I said last hour, this is all subjective. It's
like you know when whenever we do our list on
our own, I'm often conflicted, Like when you say you
name the top ten quarterbacks, you know, first of all,
the to figure whatever stat or whatever you're using your
head to name those quarterbacks. The order is always difficult,

(01:24:49):
most difficult for me because who's more valuable than another
based on like what I've experienced or what I played against.
Like for example, I think the world I can't stay
in the Broncos, but I think the world are John
Elway because I've watched him beat me many times, or
Bred Farve, you know what I'm saying. But I don't
know you when you talk about in order, well, who's
the best quarterback ever? Like I've watched your reasons based

(01:25:10):
off the stats? Is it Tom Brady? I mean? Is
it Peyton Manning? I mean? And how do you figure?
How do you quantify it? So in this where when
we're talking about basketball, I thought Steff was amazing, though
how he came into his own I was really critical
in the beginning of his career because he couldn't stay healthy.
You know, he had ankle problems, and I thought that
was going to just be hit the plague him for

(01:25:31):
his entire career. But since then, to me, there's not
a spot on the court that he can't make it from. Now.
Kauai is fluid, just like you know Tim Duncan was fluid,
just like you know that being able to do it
all inside and out, plays defense, plays both sides of
the court. But I don't know if that that subjectively
makes him higher than someone like Steph. It's all right.

(01:25:52):
So so here's here's my argument when it comes to Kauai.
He won titles by him self. He drugged god like
he drugged them to a title last year. Yeah, I
mean it's hard to argue with that, especially when he plays.
There's not some circumstances that goes into that too. I

(01:26:12):
mean Clay was hurt, Durant was hurt. I mean, it
was a shell of here we are with what I'm
giving you facts. I'm not gonna apologize for giving you
i just say it wasn't real. I'm just saying there's
a caveat now. If you want to say he was
a driving force between the with the Spurs when they
beat the Miami Heat, I'll give that to you. He
was the MVP of that series. I'm not saying he

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was in a legit player and he's not a great player.
Twice by, Like again, say what you want about goal,
he still got fruit. Everybody was all over the box.
So the Bucks, the Bucks, the Bucks, and he was
the focal point. He beat the Sixers by himself. I
don't know, the guy that you were calling smells like feat.
The entire postseason has something to do with it too. Yeah,

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the fact is that letter gave him space. I know
what I get. I'm not arguing that Kauai shouldn't alpha
in the of that team. I'm a big believer in
the alpha of championship teams should get the NADA being higher.

(01:27:15):
Steff was the alpha of his team when they won
the first one, at least, yeah, the first one at least.
All right, you know, he's slight of an alpha, but
he's like a bata. I think the fact that that
those those titles they go and stay one, they kind
of take things votes away from each other when it

(01:27:36):
comes to Steph and if you're if you're using titles,
that's a metric, which I never do when I'm assessing individuals.
But again, I'm not using it as a soul metric
except when I look at Kauai and I look at
everything he does on the floor. Kevin Durant, it's a
great argument. Okay, it's a great argument. I I We've
had this debate, you know again, Durant is one of

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the most gifted score ever in the game because he
could score it all three levels. However, Leonard became a
great shooter, is a better dry, It is more strong
driving the basketball. His mid range game is as good

(01:28:19):
as Durant, if not better. And he's an all around
player too. He's a great defender. I'm not arguing against
any of that. Again, I'm not arguing that Kevin Kawhi
Leonards shouldn't be above Steph Curry. I'm just how one
of us Durant. I think Durant needs to be over Curry.

(01:28:41):
I'm not arguing against that either. Yeah, I mean, I
mean Durant. Durant was the best player on the Golden
State Warriors the second he got there. He got there.
I mean, I look at at d Wade at twenty six.
I think that's low way. It's one of the most
we I think we talked about this a couple of
weeks ago. I said, waiting Cage, you're two of the
most underrated players in the history of the sport. I agree.

(01:29:04):
How's John's seven? Isn't it just youth? I think it's
gotta be not enough product. Yeah, I love I love
that dude, and he's not even re hit the ceiling yet,
you know, right, he's one of my favorite guys. You know,
he's he's a gentleman. He's the ant high Snell. All right,

(01:29:30):
I will say this, and I love him subjectively if
you look at the metrics, just I think that he's
he's there because and I'm going off of just real
quick memory, everyone that's in front of him is at
least one one title, right, I say that Barkley twenty three, right,

(01:29:53):
he didn't win one? Okay, well, well that's what I
was thinking. It wasn't want we didn't win well, not
without j Where is Iverson on this list? Somewhere nine? Okay?
All right, christ you want to add it because probably
the the greatest, the greatest slight takes place at thirty one,

(01:30:23):
where Isaiah Thomas is behind Steve Nash. Are you kidding me?
Jane Nash, John Stockton, and Alan Iverson all in front
of Isaiah Thomas. Yes, you're absolutely right, You're absolutely right.
This is the This is this is the man. Reputation

(01:30:47):
will really will really kill you if you're not careful,
sometimes even on anything that's supposed to be subjective. Here
like by any subjective objective means, like Isaiah Thomas is phenomenal,
one of the greatest point guards of all time and
thirty one is it that agreed? Just that? Where was
Steve nationalist in comparison to Isaiah times? So he's one

(01:31:10):
above Isaiah? Yeah, I don't think that's that agree Just
to me, Steve Nash was phenomenal too, and the late
close to Isaiah. I mean they had they could have
had a third title two if it just wasn't for
some shenanigans. And there was that game that Isaiah Thomas
had to leave that he basically played through like nearly

(01:31:33):
a broken ankle injury against the Lake Remember remember watching
I don't know if and he put up a scene
stats in that too, like he did. Yeah, but it's
it's not just what he did with the Pistons too.
I think that earning the reputation problems is also like
if you're not careful after you're playing career, it will
it'll ruin your reputation too. And everything he did with
the Knicks was really bad. No that should matter as

(01:31:56):
a player on the list. Anything he did as an executive,
nothing that Michael Jordan did with the ords of the
Bob catch it effect and it hasn't effected what we
think of him as a player. None of that should matter.
I don't. I don't hold that against Isaiah as a player,
anything he did with the Pacers or the Knicks. So,
but I a great I mean, but you're But I
think Chris is right. I think is even though you don't,

(01:32:17):
and I applaud you for it. Do you think people do? Yeah,
how could you explain Isaiah Tom's the thirty one? I
I just I guess for me as as someone who's
followed the Pistons for my entire life, this is just
it's part of a pattern I see when it comes
to the bad boys. Like I was I was telling
I was telling a few guys here too, Like you know,

(01:32:38):
Bill Mbier, I mean, I get it. It was the
w n B A but like he was really gunning
for for an NBA coaching gig for a long time,
and it just became clear that it's just that past
reputation follows him around, and it's it's the truth for
nearly all those old bad boys. It's just whatever they
did in the eighties and nineties was enough that it

(01:32:58):
it just sets a Paul over them, and Nun's more
clear about it than whenever we talk about Isaiah Thomas
and I. It's not even the matter of being in
you know, thirty one, or even like you know, a
couple of spots in front of them. I think you
should be a lot higher on this list. I really do. Yeah,
I agree. I agree with you, man, I thirty one. Man,

(01:33:19):
that's that's just low. I will come back lots to
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got a lot of stuff. So let me just give
you a text board. Very interesting ing uh link. Nick

(01:34:02):
on the text board says, stand that Reggie Miller would
have won three times with that team that Steph played on.
All the town around him, Reggie Miller would have equal
success as Steph Curry. I thought Reggie would have been

(01:34:26):
higher on the list too, Yes, Reggie forty nine. That's way.
That's another agregeousgeous, come on, horrible. All right, let me
ask you you're ready, first question of the four. You're

(01:34:54):
all time overrated player and you're all time underrated player
in any sport, any sport, because you know we're going
to the list and you're looking at the event of
the basketball lists right the over right on the ratings
on any sport. I give you question number two, the

(01:35:20):
Snell question, the top three creeps in all of sports.
Once again, creep. It's the perfect word, like I think,

(01:35:40):
I think he had it right with douche, like squaw douche.
He's a captain douche. But I also think he's a creeper.
He's a creek creek with a creep es. Question number three,
give me your our favorite salutation and your least favorite salutation.

(01:36:07):
Now that would be bro. Bro. They to get my money,
bro getting any bill hitched Headbro with a bat? Bro?
How about that? Bro? So give me your favorite salutation

(01:36:27):
and your least favorite salutation, and then finally give me
you've been talking about this Jordan thing. And then we
get the the last two episodes coming up Sunday, and
there's been all kinds of talking, you know, this thing
about TV and you know what what you know all

(01:36:51):
the thirty for thirties and the sports Give me a
movie that you want to see that I have thirty
for thirty documentary of me a sports movie that you
want to see? Here it is You're four to that

(01:37:13):
as always, we thought would be your most overrated underrated
player of all time. It's a tough one. That is
a tough one. Um, and you're throwing these questions aut

(01:37:35):
me the So I'm gonna just go with my instinct
the first one that no, no, no, no, no, no.
Just but you know, I like to be I'd like
to have these these answers of the thought out at least.
But I'm gonna say, the most overrated player right now
or right the most overrated player to me right now
is is Draymond Green. Wow. I love it. Yes, I agree,

(01:38:02):
over rated. That's a great one. Give me your most
on the rating. That's even tougher. Who doesn't get enough
recognition for what they do? Um? Again, I'm sick. I
got the I got the I got the NBA on

(01:38:24):
my mind. You know what we were talking about it.
We were talking about the uh, we were talking about
the last dance. I don't think as a as a
work hard it goes appreciated enough. The value of good
defense and rebounding. Dennis Rodman, to me, didn't get a
lot of respect, mainly because he's weird. Um, but I

(01:38:48):
think he he didn't get a lot of the stuff
that he did. He did well over time, he didn't
get a lot of respect. I don't think he was
really appreciated. I think people overlook what a lot of
what he did because they put so much of an
emphasis on scoring. All right, I like it. I like it.
Bursch over rated on the rated in the history of
your life. Um well, I'll wrestle some feathers. I think

(01:39:13):
Jimmy Garoppolo is overrated. Um. I I know he's he's
still got some some growth to do, but um, I
think that his his background of of coming over from
the Patriots, you know, kind of gave this sort of
luster to him. Um and and and he Yes, he
did just get to the super Bowl, but there are
a lot of other factors that took them to the

(01:39:34):
super Bowl. So I'll say Jimmy g and I'll go, uh,
different different sports from my underrated and Chris will appreciate
this one. I always love defensive dynamos in the NBA,
and Ben Wallace was an absolute stud throughout Ben Wallace,
I love it. I love it, Bend Man, I like that. Alright,

(01:39:57):
give me uh is what you think? Overrated? The rat okay? Overrated?
I I have two options here. I'm just trying to
decide which the two brothers I want to go after.
And one, see the problem is is like one of them,
I think people are finally coming around on and realizing

(01:40:18):
the rings aren't as important. The other I just haven't
thought much of to begin with. And you know, I'll
go with the incendiary one. I have no good reason.
I have no good explanation for it. I just think
he's massively overrated. And that's Peyton Manning. I just over rated. Yeah, yeah,
I think he's I think he's a good I think
he's a decent quarterback. I think he's a good quarterback.

(01:40:40):
But the way people talk about him as if he
has this DEMI human walking the earth sometimes and again
I have some I don't know, you're talking to I
hang around with people from the Midwest, So I mean,
he's a great he's a he's a great quarterback of
all time. Yeah, and I still think he's overrated. I
don't Again, I haven't like what you think is overrated

(01:41:05):
about him. I'll have to get back to you on that. Yeah.
Well that's that's why I said I was almost leaning
towards Eli, because at least an Eli, the conversation is
opening up as like, hey, that he's got two Super
Bowl rings. Yeah, but he's also barely five hundred in
his record. And but I think more people have kind
of come around on Eli and that especially near the

(01:41:28):
end of his career, it was starting to the the
shine was starting to come off a little bit so
underrated and I'll double down going Detroit Pistons from the
two thousand's um and the lot gets lost on him
just because of the technical fouls and everything. But Rashid Wallace, like,
look beyond just the guy who makes trouble on the court,

(01:41:50):
look beyond all the technical fouls. Like his stats are
insanely Yeah, I love, I love, but like we were
just talking about seventy four greatest players. I didn't see
the rest. I didn't see too far down the list
past we talked. I don't know, I for shed Wallace
is on there, but I mean as a as a

(01:42:11):
full player, he he had everything you wanted, but he
just could not stay out of foul trouble. Yeah yeah,
I like that, all right. Figure, people are not gonna
like this my most overrated player. I'm not saying he's
not a great player, but he's not the best of
all time like many people believe. And that's Tom Brady.
So is he a top ten quarterback? Is he the

(01:42:34):
best of all time? No? Underrated? This is also a
tie Oh yeah, by a top chander. I think that's interesting.
But who's your who's your goat? That's a tough one
for me, So I'll put it this way. I know,
I still go with Joe Montana because Joe Montana and

(01:42:57):
every big game situation always played big um and there
was never The only playoff game where you can say, wow,
he really stunk it up was when Lawrence Taylor and
the Giants handed it to him, and they handed it
to everybody those two years they won super Bowls. But
I mean when they went to Super Bowls, I mean
they were winning by average of like twenty five points.
It wasn't like there are situations where Brady might not

(01:43:18):
play that great, but his defense was great and maybe
come up with a big drive at the end and
the team would win. I mean, the forty Niners will
blow people out. The defense was great, but Joe Montana
was just as great, and his numbers were ridiculous. He
stepped up in big moments at all times. So, uh,
if I had to go with one, I would go
with Joe, And then up there I would also he
doesn't have the rings to go with it. But I

(01:43:40):
would also go with Aaron Rodgers even though he has
one to Brady's you know, six, but I think he's better. Yeah,
you know what, I wouldn't I think, I don't. I
wouldn't argue. Um, I think Aaron Rodgers maybe the best
quarterback ever to play. I wouldn't argue against that. You know,

(01:44:00):
as far as a just a pure just playing a position,
you know, ice your eye on eye test. What do
you think of that? Lincoln, I'm right online. I mean,
when when he proposed, you know, a rather interesting argument,
our discussion has to say, I think I'm right online

(01:44:20):
with it, and they consider the numbers he's put up,
and we we've talked about this, whether it was last
week or the week before, with how little help he
has had, it really is amazing. The production he's had,
the lack of interceptions, the amount of touchdowns. I mean,
he's one of the more efficient quarterbacks in the history
of the sport. Throw into a bunch of undrafted free
agents in fourth round picks his entire career. Yeah, yeah,

(01:44:43):
now you're right along. Let me ask you a question
just off the Brady. Should Brady get the Balky Ears
to the Super Bowl? Would that change your opinion? It
depends on how they get there. Um By If they
get to it's gonna be Brady, right, Oh, that that's
what the well, that's what the perception will be. Um

(01:45:04):
but it depends. I don't know, you know, are they
it's not bellot chased my point right then it will
help his calls for the masses, regardless of how they
get there. If they do, it will help his calls
for the people like me who are saying that Belichick
is the one that stirs the drink in New England.
Not that Brady is not great, but Belichick is the
one who makes it go more so than him. So

(01:45:25):
if they find a way to get there, then yes,
that that will definitely help him put some put some
points in his column when it comes to that. I'm
just curious. I wouldn't deny that. Yeah, for sure, it'd
be interesting to see. Um. All right, Uh, take it
away for trending and then we'll keep it going. Okay, Well,
there could be a change to the Rooney rule in

(01:45:45):
the NFL. First off, Commissioner Roger Goodelle sent the memo
to all thirty two teams saying their facilities will be
allowed to open next Tuesday, is longest state and local
authorities allow what the facilities will be open to about
fifty of non player staff. No assistant coaches will be
allowed in as of yet, and only players who will
be allowed in the building are those who are rehabbing
from injuries. The Virtual Owners Meeting for the NFL is

(01:46:08):
schedule for Tuesday as well. One of the major measures
on the docket will be a possible change to that
Rooney rule. The proposal reward franchises for hiring minority coaches
and general managers by either granting them compensatory draft picks
or by allowing teams to move up as many as
sixteen spots in the third round of the draft. Currently,
there are four minority head coaches and two minority gms

(01:46:30):
in the NFL, and attorneys for the Seahawks cornerback Quentin
Dunbar and Giants cornerback DeAndre Baker have said that they
have FI davits from witnesses that prove their clients in
a sense. In the armed robbery charges they received on Thursday,
Fellas back to you. Thank you fig We are the Fellas.
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bigger link, you're up. Give me your top three creeps
douches before we get to link. I never gave my

(01:47:12):
underrated Yeah, yeah, it's quite all right. I got you.
You know, the Brady thing caused the great little spider
of discussion. I get and I understand that's I was
expecting it, to be honest with you, so I'm not
surprised by that. I know It's what I said, will
be considered to be a hot take, so I get it.
Uh for for underrated, it might be considered a hot

(01:47:33):
take too. I thought about KG since we just discussed it.
But he does get as just as Arty is going
to be a Hall of Famer. He was regarded as
one of the best power forwards in the league at
the time that he played. Uh my, underrated, I'm going
to Tony Romo. He always got the blame whenever the
Cowboys lost, and I really don't know of the majority
of the time when they did, you know, as he
never lived down the fumbled snap on the extra point

(01:47:53):
in that Seahawk game from way back, and I think
that was his first playoff start and that kind of
just hampered him his entire career. It's very similar to
Aaron Rodgers. If you go back and watch, there are
very few times at the Cowboys lost games because of
Tony Romo, and yet for whatever reason, he was labeled
as a choke artist. Well it's interesting. Yeah, I would
not view him as as is over underrated, underrated excuse me,

(01:48:17):
and I would be more overrated. But yeah, yeah, I
don't think he I don't think he's a Hall of
Famer or anything. I think people say he's a choke artist,
that wasn't that good, And he was, Like I said
that the time that he played, he was a he
was he was a good quarterback. He was better than
above average. He was a very good quarterback to his career.
And a lot of people have labeled him as a
bum that held the Cowboys back, or or if they

(01:48:37):
would have done better if he wasn't there. I was like, Dad,
pretty damn well when he was there, you know what
I mean? Now you're right, Now, you're right about that.
I agree, I agree, all right, big link, give me
you all three creatus. Well this is easier than when
I came and Dominican Sue Award Haynesworth and Jerry Jones. Ah,

(01:49:02):
Jerry Jones. Uh yeah. I mean the arrogance, the arrogance
of he can't get out of his own way. I mean,
when you talk about a and we've talked about this
every year for for whatever reason, no matter what the circumstances,
the Cowboys are a topic of conversation. And when you
have such a prestige and a marketability, you would just

(01:49:25):
think one of the one of you know, sooner or
later you would probably for for the benefit of your organization,
just step aside and allow someone else to to run
a show. I don't like the fact that that they
go to him rather than a head coach the media
does for for drops or he's got to be the
face of the franchise. I don't like that. Yeah, it's funny.

(01:49:49):
You don't like that at all? Year I I don't
believe it. I get you, I get you. Uh give
me Barrished, give me your three creep douche is uh
Madison bum Garner will always be on a list of
anything like this for me. So he's number one. Um,
like a true Dodger course of course, Yadi or Molina

(01:50:10):
I put there as well, ya hear Malin I know, yes, yeah, well,
I I kind of detest the whole idea of of
the Cardinal Way because I find it rather pretentious and
and Dodger, may I know, I know? Um And And
also earlier in the week he did an interview where
he said in a hundred years, he wants to be
remembered as the greatest catch who ever lived. Which is

(01:50:32):
weird that Johnny Bench and von Rodriguez just all of
a sudden ceased to exist. Um and then my last one.
The last one is uh Mike Gundhi because of well,
not his his coronavirus comments a couple of weeks ago. Yeah,
but also because his mullet just kind of creused me
out too, So all right, that's that's very gordy. There

(01:50:57):
is a bit of a uh, I agree, kind of
a creep factor there, I kind of I'm kind of
with you there. Uh, let's go to Chris. Chris creeps
and my favorite, my favorite topic. And honestly, whittling this
downd of three was hard, but I'm gonna put in here.

(01:51:19):
So first off for me, first one off the list
here is Jim Harbaugh. While we're on the topic of
college coaches. Jim Harbaugh honestly might take a cake here.
Maybe two um Kevin Durant. It's not that he is
has rabbit ears and he's constantly posting back to people

(01:51:40):
on social media who are criticizing him. Is that he's
doing it with alt accounts. That's the creep part, you know,
post on main And finally, I have a tie here
between either Jamis Winston or you know what, It's a
tie between Jamis Winston or Ben Roethlisberger. I could really
use a tiebreaker here. And well, it's funny watching everyone

(01:52:03):
talking about um his faults and failures on a lot
of these things, and about how he's it's it's it's
I'll just say this, it's fascinating how we have decided
what parts of Jamie's need to be redeemed and what
parts can be safely just discarded from his from his past.

(01:52:24):
You know, it's it's more about his eyesight or his
interceptions than it is about you know, the things he
got up to at Florida State that those are those
are fine, those swept under the rug of the shield.
So I never had there had an answer for any
of those, just you know, slotting there, and we talked
constantly about you know, everyone's so happy to have him

(01:52:44):
around because he's quick quick. Redemption story is more about
how well can you perform as an NFL quarterback? All right,
say the same thing about Ben Roethlisberg. No, that's why, Yes,
absolutely interesting, it's thing. I like it, all right. Uh.
Figure Also an easy one for me. Number one is

(01:53:05):
I think he was a teammate of yours link Warren Sap. No,
it wasn't a teammate. I would have slapped him. Oh good, Oh,
I wish I was there to see that. Uh. Jeff
Kent was was a wasn't the easiest person to be around. Dude,
you are so right. You have no idea how right

(01:53:26):
I covered Jeff Kent, And you wonder why I went
on my baseball players or douches compared to every other athlete.
Number one A Jeff Kent that village people must ache
he had. Oh my god, he was the worst. He

(01:53:47):
used to look at you and like you were spunscumb
He was the worst. Well, Randy Johnson was better, right
because he was number three on my list. Yeah, he
was not just in the world. I locked out. I
had a good Uh. I had a dear friend of

(01:54:07):
mine who was on the Mariners. His name was John Marzano,
and Johnny Johnny was like they loved him, Junior and
Randy Johnson. At one time I had to go. I
had to go spend two weeks in Seattle do this
big story on Junior and then one on Randy Johnson.

(01:54:29):
And the Junior was the best. He was one of
the He was the opposite of the crew. He was
one of the great people you ever want to meet.
Kenn Griffey Jr. And h. Randy Johnson was not Randy
Johnson didn't talk to anybody, but he respected Johnny and
john said you gotta talk to Anthony, and he did
and we had Actually it was a fascinating interview. And

(01:54:51):
I saw him over over that two week period a
couple of times, sat down with him. But yeah, he
was he was tough on the media man. He was.
He was. He was a tough guy. I kind of
heard that about Barry too, like he wouldn't give you
access generally, or he was kind of a douche to you.
But if he actually, for whatever reason, it was nice
enough to give you the time. He was excellent, excellent
interview with someone fascinated and talked to. To let me

(01:55:14):
tell you something that one of my favorite stories ever
was I was in San Francisco and I spent an
off day with Bobby Bannilla and Barry Bonds, and Barry
couldn't have been more of a gentleman like I. Now.

(01:55:35):
I was close with Banilla, so Bobby bow when I
were close, and I did do the story. I was
hanging out with these guys during an off day and
they were getting together and and and Bonds couldn't have
been nicer. He was great. We had a great day
with these guys. It was it was a good story too.
It turned out to be a good story. Uh So

(01:55:57):
you're right on point, man, right on point. As always.
We'll take a quick t I'll come back. Still lots
more on the other half of the four Straight ahead
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(01:56:21):
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to the four, shall we looking? Give me your favorite

(01:56:45):
salutation and your most annoying salutation. The favorite, by far
is and especially when it's expressed with sincerity, is how
have you been? That's my favorite because when people take
a genuine interest and you or show you your own
interest to you after catching up, we're seeing you for
a while, that that that makes you feel good inside.

(01:57:08):
I was talking more of like the kind of the
pet name that dudes call each other, like, you know,
what's our brother? You know my favorites? My man my man,
my man. I think I think that you know, you

(01:57:28):
know when you like it. For example, when you say
big link, that's that's one of that's one of the favorites.
That's wholeheartedly didn't big link? What's up? Man? How you
doing that type of thing? Man? And then and then
my least favorite is you know what I mean, I
can't stand it when athletes are getting interview. You know
what I mean? You know what I mean? No, we
don't know what made me explain it. I mean, it's

(01:57:50):
just now we have to shorten everything is another pet
sounded out, enunciate not I mean. Yeah, So I'm going
to start I mean no, I wouldn't asking. All right,
let's uh, let's go to your favorite at least favorite,
like mine is bro my least favorite. My favorite is

(01:58:14):
my favorite boss because when people well because when people
call you, the people who call you boss, they do
it every single sentence they say to you, and uh,
it feels like it should be annoying, but I'm so
entertained by it. Like there's a subway that I used
to go to where with every every it's like, all right,

(01:58:36):
you want to you wanna foot long? Boss? Alright? What
kind of bread boss, all right, what kind of me boss?
Like in every single sentence he would say boss, and
I'm like, you know what, I actually really enjoy it's
it's it's look at it's kind of hilarious. Um Uh.
My least favorite is um, I don't like bro, but
taken to a step further when when they say breath

(01:58:59):
like I know, yeah, yeah, I have a couple of
friends who call each other breath brea and like it
feels so forced and phony and I just want to
I just want to hit them every time. So I agree,
I'm no violence, no violence, I know, I know. I'm sorry.
You're right. I agree, that's a good one. Uh, let's

(01:59:25):
go to Chris favorite. I can't say I've thought too
much on on this before today, so I'm so I
was racking my brain. I think I've gone through and
come out the other side the tunnel. On dude, I'm
back to liking do together, Okay, alright, I used to
not be, but I think I've come back around the
other end. And dudes, rock I'm trying to think of

(01:59:49):
my least favorite. I I'm still struggling, and I think
you guys have nailed down some pretty good ones already
from me. So uh um, I think it's just like saying, um, man,
I really like I I really like Lincoln's ants or

(02:00:14):
so I have nothing else beyond that. I have to
double up on that. Either that or just uh you
know what I hate. Uh If I hear a lot,
I know I'm doing it right now kind of subconsciously.
But yeah, okay, all right, you've got my man, big,
my man, that's my man. So I say that a lot.

(02:00:37):
I also say boss a lot first. So um, but yeah,
so I got it from many maybe no funny. Does
my man likenzel? Of course? Mom? Mom, man? So I
set so my friends ayle, but we'll I'll hit each
other with my man. Um the ones I don't like.

(02:00:59):
Um'm not a big fan of dude myself, either, to
be honest with you. And then since Lincoln brought up
just sayings in general, I'm not a fan of when
people say it is what it is. Well, that's that's
a pet peeve of mine. All right, because all right,
real quick, so you don't have to leave, so you
can leave. What's your sports movie you want you want
to see? Well, I gotta see the movie on Kobe right, Yes,

(02:01:21):
I gotta see that one. Wow, that's a tear jerker. Yeah, wow,
very good, very good, my brother, great stuff today. By
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(02:02:03):
and together the Fellas on Fox went all over the
place this morning. It's been fun in order to get
to some quarterbacks as well. Speaking of rankings, we've been
doing the NBA rankings a lot, kind of going over it,
looking at uh this list, and it's been a it's

(02:02:26):
a strange one. There's not a good argument. So it's
it's the beauty of it. You don't be I can't
help myself. Yeah, you mean you have people in this
generation that will argue number two should be number one,
then should be overjorded. Yeah, I think that's crazy. Of
course we do. I think that's insane. I think part

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of it's insane because I think it's just fair enough
fair that Lebron took a little step back last year
and now I thinke it's close. Now. Look, I'm a
Jordan fan through and through, so when it comes to
the argument who is the greatest one, I will always

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say Jordan's. But I appreciate someone like Lebron because he's
done it at a consistent high level on both ends
of the court throughout his career. And to me, who
someone who appreciates the game for the purity of it is.
I respect that we've seen a lot of great offensive
players that didn't play really good defense, and it was
a shame, you know, it affects it. I think that

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you talk about somebody who's worked on their game too,
in a sense where he's gotten better at certain things,
I think you can appreciate that. I'm I'm hypercritical of
like big Man who just refused to get a better
free throw, you know. More importantly, I'm also critical of
guards who can't shoot free throws well, you know, because
to me, it just it's it's a defamation of the game.

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So but but subjectively, when you talk about greatest, I'm
going off of the first one that I've seen do
do it all, and do it all at a high level.
And you talk about because basketball is that game where
one person can have a tremendous impact on the outcome.
Right now, I and I agree. I mean, you know,

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but listen, I mean that's why he number two. You
know what I'm saying, number two my brother. Hey, ma'am,
I'm more of a I think Kobe, I don't. I
I just don't think Kobe should be higher than nine.
Read the top ten off again, Jordan Lebron, Jabbar, Russell, Magic,

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Will Bird, Duncan, Kobe Shack. Now say I played Kobe
in front of Duncan even though I respect Mr Fundamental, Yeah,
I kind of do too. I would agree with that.
Now again, I I don't, you know, I saw the
tail end of Jabbar, so you know, you know, and

(02:05:01):
like I can notice that, But no, I I respect
it because I mean that's when when I thought about it.
When I first time I saw the skyhook when I
was young, I was like, damn, that's an odd shot.
But then you talk about how do you defend it?
And and I'm not just talking about he was more
he was he was more of a complete player than
just that. But the fact that he was such a force,

(02:05:25):
a rim protector, you know, and of course an offensive
juggernaut made him a complete basketball player. If you're a
big man, that's what you wanted. You would try to,
you know, replicate or try to be like because you
you wanted to You wanted to have that sort of um,
you wanted to have that sort of reputation about you. Yeah. Yeah,

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you know it's funny, you know, I hear you. I
still look at like there's all the bigs like I
don't I mean, like Moses Malone, Well, m I don't know.
I mean, I mean I get it. Skyhawk Yeah yeah, yeah,
but is is he belong to be? Now, I didn't

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see his prime and as dominant he was, But you know,
I didn't see Wilt or Russell either, Russell being four
is you know, I can't speak to that. Yeah, And
it would look at those guys. You know, it's hard
to argue when someone has eleven championship ranks their place

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in history. Yeah right, you know, I mean we could
sit here and when we talk about quarterbacks, we can
sit here all day and say, you know, it is Brady,
you know, the greatest because he has the most rings
or you know, like FIGG he brought up, which I
agreed with wholeheartedly, some of those teams it wasn't he wasn't.
He wasn't the leader. Now that that game against Atlanta,

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not only does Atlanta mismanage it on the other side,
but you know what he did in that game aim
to bring them back. I was like, it's in an
eye by as much as I hate it, I gotta
give him, give him the credit with credit is due. Yeah,
you see what I'm saying. It's like, you, dude, I
can't and he made these throws. You talk about taking
it on your shoulders. And you know, I played against

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Steve Young, I played a couple times against Joe Montane,
even though I watched the more times than playing against him.
I mean, guys and John Elway can take it down
the field and there's nothing that you can stop called
it can stop him. There's nothing you can do to
stop him. That's mad. Respect, bro, Yeah, it is may respect.
You know you're right along. May respect. I hear you. Um.

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The the idea of the career are the current players
on that list, Curry, Durant, Kauai so carry at thirteen
during fourteen, Kauai fifty honestly seven hard and at thirty two.
Get that all out of here with that, and Chris

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Paul at forty while Reggie Miller is forty nine. Are
you guys? Are they crazy? It's tough man me for
Durant standards. I mean the fact that you see a
seven footer that can play all three phases and all
three levels. I how many times have we seen that?
How often does that happen? I mean another game changer.

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I have no b I listen, I got no problem
with Durant, Like I'm like the argument that Durant Kauai argument,
but I mean, Durant's ability to score is at all
three levels is ridiculous, you know. So I wouldn't argue that,
Like I would never argue that. I just go, I

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look around and I'm just some of the other ones.
I kind of shake my head. I mean, I quite frankly,
I think that Dirk at nineteen kg it's twenty are underrated.
Yeah yeah, but they just just look on that list
up and I'm one of them. Who do you replace them.
I mean, hurry Durant. Oh oh KG, Dirk, Dirk wins

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the title. Think about on that team where he he
beats Lebron with what right? Right? I mean, my man's
on the raiding the Dirk. What the points he scored? Yeah? Again,
it's an interesting arguments in its an interesting discussion. I

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mean it's hard to I can't not agree with your points.
But it's like, man, I just think more of Steph
and and and and Kevin Durant to see that dude
does Dirk and replace them. We'll move up there. Wow,
it's some thirteen four. That's a big, big jump. I know, KG,

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Yeah o KG. I had I had mad respect for
k G. I mean in his game. I'm a Charles man.
How's Charles three? I got Charles over Pipping. Now, Pipping
was a robbin and Charles and Charles was a batman. Yeah,

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but Pipping did Charles do it as as well rounded
and no pun intended as Pipping was. It was could
play any position on the court. Charles was more of
a bully right, a baller inside? I mean did he
I think Pipping is a more complete player than Charles.
Let me put that way. No, slide on Charles. More complete, Yeah,

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as far as versatility, as far as as far as defensive, yes,
I think that he's he was more complete than Charles
Charles Halvar rebound there could could could all show dish.
Did he really? Yeah? No, maybe he beat the break down.
I bet you, I don't know. I gonna go look

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at it. I bet you how he averaged over four
assistant game. Well, I can see that because I know
people would double down on him and take force him
to give the ball up. So I can see that.
I just don't know if I've seen enough of it.
The highlights and I closed my eyes to remember highlights
of Barkley. It was just his athleticism for being the
size that he was and what he could do with

(02:11:26):
the basketball and power and stuff like that and defend
himself like that. I mean, just yeah, I go, I'll
tell you what. Let's take a quick break, quick cho right,
we'll come back, and then I want to do the
top quarterbacks right now, because that was another bone of contention.

(02:11:50):
We got into an argument this week. I want to
bring up to you. I've been arguing all I mean,
I can't shut up. I gotta stop shot and by
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the top ten quarterbacks right now, of course you know
the mind starts to wonder where do you put certain
people in? And again, just like any other list, there's
gonna be some people that want their quarterback to be
higher or think they would think more of their quarterback
then than I do. But it's also a rather interesting discussion,
Like we've had a basketball players, but I think it's
as far as current quarterbacks has got to be undeniable

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and not necessary undeniable. But just you know, without without objection,
that Patrick Mahomes is number one on the list right, Yes,
number one, Patrick my home. The last time we had
this discussion, I remember, I didn't I didn't mention him
for some reason. I don't know how it slipped my mind,
but I didn't mention them, and people were just killing me. One,

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how did you not mention Patrick? I forgot. I just
forgot number one, number one overall. Patrick mahomes number two
to me, it's between two guys. It's right now, that's
the key. Right now, I'm gonna say my number two
is Russell Wilson. Well, it's what's one of my two

(02:13:43):
that I would choose between? Yeah? Um? And who was
the other one? Drew Brees, maybe Rogers all Aaron Rodgers? Now, yeah,
I still think I know people. I had a discuss.
Should you know Dan Orlovski from ESPN, he's does a
good job quarterback guy. So Dan and I talked to

(02:14:06):
him this week and he was he thought, he's like, listen,
you know he slept a little bit and yeah, and
in the tape and again I I didn't break down
his tape, so I don't know. I mean, I just
watched him and he still looked he's still passed the test.
There were certain times when you know, I thought, you know,

(02:14:26):
he the offense stalled a little bit. But again, he
was the first year head coach. It's not like he's
got a ton around him. He's got he saw he
had some protection issues. I mean, he DeVante Adage is amazing,
but you know, not much. I don't know. I mean,
he's still good to me. If you if you say

(02:14:47):
that he stepped back. How how do you justify having
a thirteen and three record. Now I've said, you know,
I was, I was critical the Packers where I said
I thought the record was far better than their team.
But you talked about the weapons. I mean, what to
find a quarterback, to receivers, to find a quarterback or
quarterback ability to lead his team, to find a way
to win. I agree with. I mean, I can't say
this defense. I agree. I mean again, and he just

(02:15:07):
said that that's what the tape show. Now, I don't know,
I you know, I gotta keep it real. I didn't
break his tape down, right, Um, would you think real quick?
Is it diverted? Just to uh point this out, Rogers said, Look,
it's the realistic fact that he probably won't end his

(02:15:28):
career as a Packer. I'm not surprised. There's been a
lot of people that don't. I I think I think
that the sign I mean, I think the the everything
is written right in front of Aaron Rodgers. I think
if you in this day and age, if you want
to go down and say you want to play, because
you have more and more people who especially quarterbacks, talking

(02:15:50):
about playing into their forties. Now, once upon a time,
forties was no man land. A matter of fact, people
thought you were over the hill as a quarterback or
as a player the exactly right middle late thirties. So
now you've got people who want to play into their forties.
I don't doubt my mind, and Aaron Rodgers is a
Hall of Famer. But I do think that Green Bay
is coming up with is s thinking, you know, trying

(02:16:13):
to protect himself for the future. If they need to
develop a guy, why not. I don't agree with their
draft status and what they did. I don't. I don't
agree with it. But if you need, if you want
to have a quarterback that you think could be the
future leader of your team, then yes, why not get
him now where you can try to develop and you
have a couple of years and it's not a necessity.
I understand the strategy by that. But if you're Rogers,

(02:16:35):
everything's writing on the wall in front of you. We're
about to move on from you, so you gotta prepare
yourself to to to go somewhere else. All right, Yeah,
I hear you. All right, So we agree to top
three's my homes Wilson Rodgers. And you know, obviously my
homes being number one, got the old cheer, which is

(02:16:58):
Brady and Breeze somewhere they are right and and I saw,
now see that's that's why I have an issue with
I don't have Lamar my top ten. And I'm trying
to figure out because I mean, agatinting. You threw this
question at me in spite of what he did last year.

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I thought he was exposed in the playoffs. His his
inabilities were exposed to me. Right now, Lamar is one dimensional.
It's a phenomenal dimension, but still one dimensional. And where
if you take away his legs or his ability to run,
which is easier said than done, where is he had
as a quarterback? Because I remember the first year when

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the Raiders went to play him in Baltimore, he struggled
in the pocket, right he struggled from passing from the
pocket and then you watch that, you go back and
watch that, um um. The playoff game against the Chargers.
Thing was that year. He struggled with what the Chargers
did to him when they when they had enough speed
on the field, but they were basically playing a A

(02:18:02):
a dime defense the entire game, and he had some
issues with it. He wasn't as prolific in times before
now last year, making the adjustments they did, they created
an offense that was based around his strengths and it
was a phenomenal year, m VP year. You can't argue
with that, but you saw it expose against the Tennessee

(02:18:23):
Titans in the playoffs. You saw the frustration come out.
You saw his inability to adjust his game when when
a defense took away a lot of the things that
he did. Well. M yeah, So I know, I just
made the comment that he's not in my top ten
right now. I'm still trying to figure out who's what

(02:18:44):
four through in ten right now. I'm I'm still I'm
still thinking of that because there's there's a lot of change.
You know, Deshaun Watson is in there. I'm not really
sure because I haven't had a chance to put where
what numbers in there? Um? Um uh goodness, how I'm
drawing him blank on my quarter Well here's what you got,
you would have but yeah, Brady, Breese, Watson, you would have.

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Now I had Lamar and Wentz in my top eight seven,
I forgot about Carson. Yeah, then you have the next
guys like I don't know what Roethlisberger is, but he's around.
I I think Stafford, Matthew Stafford maybe the most underrated
quarterback to play right now. Agree, Agree, And this is

(02:19:33):
the guy was having a m v P caliber season
last year prior to the injury. I mean, let's keep
it real for a second. Chris, what do you think?
Sorry to get back to a mic here on Stafford. Yeah,
you're he's our resident Lions guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So
it's man, it's funny because I know it's it's easy

(02:19:56):
to just paint him as you know, he's not gonna
get you wins. He's not gonna win you playoffs or whatever.
But I mean he's got a great arm. He's fantastic.
I don't know where this recent thing about concerns about
for his health came from. I get that he got
just got injured last year. But besides that, like he's
he hasn't missed since I think his second year in

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the league. He hasn't missed any time. So I mean
he I I like. I I like him a lot
where uh In as a higher echelon quarterback because he
just as you say he's he has that arm, he
has that accuracy. When he's on, he's really on. You
don't really see the kind of mistakes out of him

(02:20:39):
that you really used to like, even just you know,
as as laid back as like five years ago. He's
I think at this point, just the question of how
how much longer will he keep playing? He's you know,
he's in his thirties right now. He he will start
to slow down a little bit. But I think for
right now you still got him pretty much in his prime. Yeah,
he's definitely prime. I'm with you, Um, I don't like

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I look at him and to me, he's clearly a
top ten quarterback. Yeah, I mean you talk about current quarterbacks,
I think he has to be in there. And again
I agree with the point about Roethlisberger just don't know
what he's gonna be like after the surgeon. But I
do think, but I do think a healthy Roethlisberger makes
that Pittsburgh team that much more difficult. Now, I think
their playoff caliber um and and and now for some reason,

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I'm just throwing a blank on all my quarterbacks. Um,
well you got you also have Ryan? I don't. I mean,
I wouldn't put him in the top fifteen. I'm not
a flat on you mean matt Ryan, Mattie Ice, Ye, Mattie.
I don't have him in the top ten. I put Ryan,
uh Cousins and Dak in that group, not in the

(02:21:49):
top ten right now? Out of the top ten? I
where do you got married? Mary is an interesting still
not enough of a product saw him come along lad year.
Now for the style of offense that they want to play,
they were able to pull it off and be competitive
last year, and of course the addition of DeAndre Hopkins,

(02:22:10):
if they can find a way to make it work,
because let's this is a quarterback who can be running
for his life if they don't find a way to
protect him. And but at the same point, he he
was effective running for his life last year. So where
does that put him? You know, say, it's not not
a big enough caliber work so I don't know if
I put it, I won't put him in the top ten,
but I will put him in the top fifteen. Yeah,

(02:22:32):
I could agree, I mean I could. I could definitely
agree with that, you know, I could definitely agree with that.
But it's it's funny though. I mean, when you think
about top ten right now, think about this for a
second link. It's not a lock on a lot of
these things. You know, we've reached that point where we're

(02:22:56):
it kind of transition mode, especially with the older quarterbacks.
And we'll see because you stole you know, I don't
know what Jared goffs like. Do you write Jarreed Goff?
I thought, you know, I thought when the rams, when
Jared Goff did well to me was about the play

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action and using the play action, the threat of Girley
behind him, especially when when and that that made him
an effective quarterback. But now since a lot of that
has been negated, he's taking a step back. I can't
put him in my top ten we we go through.
If we go through every team and we announced the
starting quarterback, I can probably make an argument for the
lower part than I could for the top fift team.

(02:23:40):
You know what I mean? You know, you know what
I'm saying. So because I'm for the most part, I'm
kind of drawing a blanket this and I hate to
say it drawing a blank because I don't you go
through team by team start with I mean, just look
at the dearth of quarterbacks. Well, you got Haskins, right,
you still got one of the don Jones, right, he

(02:24:05):
got Dac and Wentz right. And then if you go
to the south, obviously you have Breeze and Brady, right,
you know Carolina, you know, go figure Teddy. I mean,
what's Teddy? I don't know, right, And I mean that
the Mattie Ice you're talking about. That's the NFC South.
And then you go to the West. You've got him,

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by the way, Jimmy j who we all agree is
somewhat over right, right, Mary, And we're like we're like, Mary,
you got cousins. You know, you know he's he's you know,
he's serviceable, right, I mean you know he's not he's
not He's not as as bad as in Chicago. Right,

(02:24:51):
he falls in Chicago, I don't know, lower half right,
and you get Stafford was good, yeah, right, So he
said to Staffords in top ten, right, so you know
Stafford Rogers good falls obviously no, and then you know
the cousins. At least he's there, Yeah, he's there. He
would be in be in the top half of the

(02:25:14):
cousins are Ryan who you got. I'm still going with
Maddie Ice. I'm going with Ryan. Yeah I would too,
but I think it's close. Yeah yeah, all right. Uh
SIT's so let's head on out to the Lord of trendings,

(02:25:35):
the legendary I love feel like Bob Barker, Chuck Woolery
or something like that, or Guy Smiley from Sesame Street Fame,
good morning, Good morning guy. Though. In addition to the
introduction here, so I'm going to pose a question to

(02:25:59):
the group here coming out of this first items, I
want I want to get your your thoughts across the
board here. So Seahawks cornerback Quentin Dunbar and Giants cornerback
DeAndre Baker facing armed robbery charges, and with that in mind,
the respective attorney said on Friday that they have affidavits
from witnesses that show that their clients are innocent. The
alleged armed robbery happened in Florida this past Wednesday. Now

(02:26:22):
this morning, Baker's attorney additionally posted the following on Instagram. Quote,
we will be presenting the trophe of evidence we have
obtained over the past three days to the judge at
the right time. Seven affidavits exonerating my clients and video
evidence unquote. Only one problem Baker's attorney spelled affidavits wrong.

(02:26:46):
Affidavits is not spelled to you. So I posed the
question to the group, if you were charged with a
crime and your attorney did not spell affidavits properly, would
that be a red flag or would the perspective be
it doesn't matter in the courtroom when you're arguing out loud. No, man,

(02:27:10):
I'm in tied my cousin Vinnie if I got a murder.
But did did my cousin Vinnie get his client off innocence? Yeah?
I think that was the girlfriend helped him out. That's true,

(02:27:30):
exactly right, it's true. What's your na Yeah? Yeah, yeah, no,
that's rung seven. Yet did she win an Oscar for
that movie? Did she want an Oscar for something? Yeah? Really? Yeah,

(02:27:54):
I know, Marissa, Yeah, I know she want an Oscar.
I don't know if it was from my cousin Vinny,
but it was for Best Supporting Actress. Yeah, oh yeah, No,
it was for my cousin Benny. Yeah. She won Best
Supporting Actress Oscar for that. Yeah yeah yeah. And by
the way, you know who's a huge fan of that movie.
By the way, Bill Belichick, I kid you not. My

(02:28:17):
cousin Vinny says he's seen it at least fifty times.
I'm not making this up, Bell Belichick. Yeah, Mr giggle Pants, classic,
Mr giggle Pants. So, Lincoln, would you be troubled if
you had an attorney and they spelled yeah, yeah, because
that's that's what you're now. Yeah. Is he even spelled

(02:28:41):
correct on your computer? There's no excuse. Sports auto correct everywhere.
I swear you can't make this up. I needed a
good laugh like that. Jim Jim Trotter of NFL Media
reports that NFL owners this coming week, at the owners Meetings,
which will be held by Zoom, will consider to a
proposal that would reward teams from hiring minority executives or

(02:29:03):
coaches by giving them improved draft positions after the first
two rounds. In college football, former Alabama quarterback Talia Tanga Vyl,
a younger brother of Tua, is transferring to Maryland, where
he'll play for former Alabama offensive coordinator Mike Locksley. See
I've got Affi David on my screen right now, and

(02:29:25):
it auto corrects back to the same thing so that
the correct spelling. So it's even more troubling. Anthony and Lincoln. Yes,
it is I low lord of trendings. We are the
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(02:29:48):
colle dot com and get a free rate quote. By
the way, he's surprised that the brother Tagliavowa would we'll
go over to Maryland, would transfer out go to the portal? No, look,
I think that he expected to be a starter after
his brother left him because they decided to go elsewhere.

(02:30:10):
You know. That's that That's the I think the college
football in a lot of ways has turned into amateur
free agency. You know, not the guys guys don't want
to work. Guys don't want to work that hard. You know,
they go a place, they make a decision. The next thing,
you know, I don't like the way you're treating me,
so I'm gonna jump somewhere else. I mean, I think
that's one of the falls of having that the rule

(02:30:33):
the way it is. So they'll sit there and blame
it on an offensive coordinator or or you know, different coach,
or I'm not getting a start, or this wasn't what
I expected to be. But you know, I'm of the
mindset you made a decision, stick by your decision. Somebody's
in front of your work to be better, not just well,
let me just go somewhere else. Interesting, really interesting. Um,

(02:30:57):
because you're right, it is kind of troublesome. But the
only figure is I I go back and forth on it,
because you gotta give a kid a chance if there's
a better situation. I mean, look at Russell Wilson, how
it worked out for him. But but what about shouldn't
you explore that before you make a decision. I don't Again,

(02:31:18):
I'm I mean, these coaches leave and and I understand that,
I understand that. I'm not saying that. It's just it's
it's odd to me that you have such a because ultimately,
to me, what ends up losing is that the school
doesn't get that scholarship back. So when they if they
have seventy two scholarships and you have two that leave
the transpporter, now you've lost too scholarships. You don't get

(02:31:41):
it back. Which and now you've got kids who want
to jump around and try to find that that just
to me, to find works against work ethic. Work harder
so that you can work harder and and and fight
for your place. Don't just give up because you know
I've been here for a year and oh you like
him more than me. I'm gonna jump ship. I'm the transfer.
Didn't you think about that before you made the decision?

(02:32:03):
Didn't didn't you or somebody in your households say, well,
you know, when they came to they said, well, look,
you know, especially talk about Tagala family, tagle Viola family.
You know your brother's gonna be out here in a while,
so you might be able to take over that position.
And we've got this guy, this guy, this guy also
on the roster. Then you plan for that. Nothing is given.
You have to work for it. Yeah, I guess, I mean,

(02:32:26):
I hear you. But if you're you know, I hear you.
I guess I just keep I do think the kid
has it most of the time. Stacked against him. He's
not getting paid. He's not first of all, let's let's
let's be he's had to win. He's at the women

(02:32:48):
the coach. The coach could stay, the coach could leave.
You've got you've got programs, like a lot of people,
you've got programs that go into people's houses these days
and say your kid will be in the league in
three and a half years or the years that You've
got programs that are talking about and they they've got
the track record to prove it. That's one of the
recruiting techniques. You know. Meanwhile, you've got other coaches who
don't have that, you know, that successful program. You have

(02:33:10):
programs that go in there and say, well, I can
guarantee your kid don't have a degree in three and
a half years if that matters to you. And let's
and when we talk about these programs generating the money
like they do, you know, eighty ninety million dollars, let's again,
let's not really feel bad for the college athlete because
it is not as dire as they painted it. I
was around in college athletics when we only had a

(02:33:32):
scholarship check of four twenty and I was able to
survive in Seattle. I'm not saying that I was. I
was luxurious, And yes, the university has made a whole
lot more money and they were paying out, but I
wasn't starving, and I had an apartment off campus, and
you know, I had a lot a lot different and
I didn't have to stay in the dorms. And some

(02:33:53):
of these programs, you know, they're they're finding ways to
take care of their guys. Always do, whether it's seen
by the outside eyes, we can you don't have to
look any further than the basketball scandal. What these guys were,
what a lot of those kids were getting from outside sources. Yeah,
they're they're not below the poverty line. Let's so let's

(02:34:15):
not you know, let's not say, well, they're not getting paid.
They might not be getting directly paid as much as
professional athletes, or they're just too I agree with you there,
But different than the other scholar, I mean, other student
at that university. Who's who's going to have loans. They
don't have to worry about that, they don't have to
worry about you know, a lot of times, in my opinion,
finding a meal, there was always somebody, whether it was

(02:34:36):
a girl, or a freshman you got something off that
mill ticket, you weren't starving, yeah, buddy. And if you
went to a coach and you were, you're the starting
tackle for your team. You went to coach and say,
hey man, I'm I'm having trouble, you know, keeping my
lights on. They found a way to make it happen.
Sure they did, they you know, I mean, you're right,

(02:34:57):
they're gonna take care. The only thing again is you
know what what if should you be locked into a
situation if you, you know, just fell out of favor.
You know that sometimes you just fall out of favor
with your coach And I get that, but again that's
also life. I mean, you made a decision for you
made a decision to go to that university. I think

(02:35:19):
that you should abide by that decision. Now, the graduate
transfer was a little different. Once you graduate and you
know from the school or whatever, you you served your
I think you served the responsibility of your contract. I
think that was a little bit different. I didn't wasn't
a really big fan of that because I thought it
was going and it did eventually lead to what we
have now. But you have people transferring left and right
for whatever reason. And they all they always comes back

(02:35:42):
to the student. Let me justify one way or another,
you made a decision, stick by it, work hard, Nothing's
going to be given to you. Yeah, guess what, I
hear you. I hear you make some you make a
compelling argument. All right, let's do this. Let's come back
and let's get our final thoughts on the day. Don't

(02:36:03):
forget we do have some sports coming up. We got
German soccer Bundesliga. Then we got uh from golf tomorrow,
NASCAR tomorrow. Right here on Fox, we'll give you some
kind of break that down in your final thoughts, including
parting shots at Major League Baseball and its players like

(02:36:28):
Kennedy Anthony Gargana where the fellas on Fox fall lose.
Look at Kennedy Anthony Gargana hanging out with you from
the Geico Fox Sports Radio studios. Um, that's what I say.

(02:36:54):
What are you gonna watch? You're gonna watch any of these?
If you watch the soccer, you watch the soccer. Yeah,
I woke up this morning to the KBO and the
TV UM at one thirties, so, um, I had it on.
And you know the thing about baseball, and you know
this is a broadcaster announcer is is you've got to
have a lot of filler on hand. And just I mean,

(02:37:16):
they weren't even talking about the game for the most part.
A lot of times they were just talking about, you know,
where the game is going and where it's headed and
stuff like that. You got it with the announcers and
their their guests, and that's that's the thing about baseball.
So but I'll probably have when I get back home.
I got a little remodeling project going on in my house,
so I got to do a lot of cleaning because

(02:37:36):
the ground had just made all my hardwood floors look
tremendously dirty. So I got some cleaning to do. But
in the background, I'll probably have soccer on, which is
the sport that you're looking forward to the most. Hopefully
basketball come back, yeah, because in the interim, I think
the basketball would be a great for me. Basketball would

(02:37:57):
be a great carry over the past. The speculation surrounding
especially college football, which I love, is really is in jeopardy,
you know, because I don't know what's going to happen
with college football. I could very well see them trying
to move the season, like you had mentioned to the
winner this year because especially with the impact of what
California said, you know, just they're not gonna have any

(02:38:19):
fall schools in session. I don't know how you have
fall sports without the schools and session. Yeah, you can,
you open it up like that. So if California is
not in even though you know people sit there and
say SEC football or back easton, if if it's not
part of a product, you'll probably have a lot you know,
you have a lot more places that are probably followed suit.
So I think college football is in jeopardy, even though

(02:38:39):
I do think we'll have a season, but in the
in the interim, until we have another sport, I might
trying to have basketball be be my poffs. It would
be you know, fabulous. That'd be a great spect great spectacle,
especially you imagine if k D could play. I mean,
it could be pretty could be could be a lot
of fun. Uh. One last one has parting shot at

(02:39:01):
baseball again. This whole thing begins with the owners and
the owners trying to negotiate that in public with its players,
this operating agreement for the rest of the season. After
agreeing to the tem percent paycot, they then tried out

(02:39:21):
the fifty fifty split the revenue split, knowing that you know,
there's gonna be no fans at the stadium, so that's
a lot of revenue, and therefore the paycot is worth
more than the fifty fifty split. They throw it out
in the public, and the public says, what's rowing slit?
Like Joe public, who's worried about his rent, his mortgage,

(02:39:46):
his car payment, worried about putting food on the table.
That's what That's what he's worried about. That's what she's
worried about, not thinking about, you know, fifty fifty revenue splits.
So you know, the players put the owners put this
thing in motion. However, the players that are completely out
of line for showing a lack of empathy for what's

(02:40:09):
going on, as though they live in a bubble. And
I think the biggest complaint of the fan is that
you want to talking about you feel like it don't matter.
You want to talk about you know, you want the
guys that you root for to be likable. I don't
know what I do, yeah, without a doubt, and you
know the fact that you would have, you know, such

(02:40:36):
kind of insensitive, callous conversation about I need my money,
bro I gotta get my money, bro. I'm risking my life. Bro,
like you don't need to use the highper and it is,
don't give me your risk in your life, because if
they come back and play, they'll be saying they'll be

(02:40:58):
all kinds of safety. Man. Your people, those risking their
lives are the doctors and and nurses and healthcare workers
and all the other people are out there right now
who are exposed. Bus drivers and and grocery store workers,
and you know, the delivery guys and those working in plants.

(02:41:25):
You don't give me a break. And that's why you
know when when Blake Stell says, I don't when't risking
my life? You bland? Did you say? What are you serious? Dude?
Get a freaking clue on. Just look look what's going
on in your area, Look what's going on in this country.
And that's why he's out of line something because people

(02:41:45):
are begrudging his salary or the fact that maybe he's
deserved of the initial deal that the players and owners
agreed to. It's not about that. It's about social empathy man.
Very true anyway, and I think it's a big reason
why baseball has such an issue. It's true. It's gonna

(02:42:07):
PR nightmare. It's a PR nightmare right now, all right,
everybody texts the listeners always. We appreciate P says for you.
Fellas are out.

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