Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:01):
Don't listening to Fox Sports Heavy Time in the world,
George Rice, their good lord, got a global pandemic. I
don't even know how to characterize what happened to George
Floyd on Monday incomprehensible, and then the fallout from that
moment on Heavy Time, right, I don't know what what
better word would describe it than heavy right now? Right? Oh,
(00:23):
that's it, That's all that's going on. How would you
didn't didn't didn't notice? I thought it was, you know,
just a normal Saturday. Yeah, right, yeah, I'm hoping this
next week we start to take steps toward normalcy in
many different aspects. But I mean, let's start with this, George.
It's man, it is Remember everybody, this is the year vision.
(00:46):
This is the year of completion. So many great things
are gonna be happening. Dude, It's been nothing but calamity
from the beginning. It this is the year not for
just your vision and clarity. This is just like a
reset and to see who really are the tough people
like the people who are gonna be innovative, creative, and
(01:08):
tough enough to muster through anything that comes their way. Well,
let's get to this, George, whare you think about the
George Floyd situation that happened on Monday and uh, the
protests that have followed it. There have been a lot
of athletes that have spoken up. We've heard from numerous athletes,
and so let's just start in a with a simplest question.
(01:33):
Do you think that athletes these days should feel obligated
to speak out against certain situations like that they should
feel like they need to do it, and if they don't,
we're gonna be looking at them sideways, like, how do
you not have an opinion on this? Yes? Yeah, I
do think. I'm a person who believes that with great
(01:54):
platform or great power, comes great responsibility. And mind you,
everybody doesn't need to show up the same way. Everybody
is not supposed to be the leader or the champion
for the cause because every I mean because in reality,
we all have our own individual causes that matter the
most to us. But when it comes to human issues,
(02:16):
uh that especially those that touch the people that you
care about, the people that you work with, the people
in your community. I think that there is an obligation
to the human race and to those that you are
closest to to speak up and try to make the
world a better place. UM. I saw an interesting UM
(02:41):
video I'm a posting on my Twitter about how there
there's a lot of times with regards whether you're white, black,
or whatever, like, there's a lot of times where people
are born with a lot of privilege and and and
not get into like, oh, whether it's white privileged, black privilege,
any of that. It's just that if you were born
into a two parent home, if you were didn't have
(03:02):
to pay for college, if you you know, we're afforded
a private school, good education, you know, things that you
didn't earn, like things that were just inherently given to you.
Then you were giving a head start in life. So
sometimes when you uh look at people who weren't given that,
there there are people who can't see like, hold up,
I was giving an advantage. That's why it was easier
(03:24):
for me and to look at other people and be
able to empathize, I think, and be able to see
hold up, I had an advantage. Let me help somebody
else out. I think that that's the human element of it.
Where athletes should be, you know, feel that sense of
duty to speak up. I hear you. Here is a
former athletes Stephen Jackson, former NBA player, He had some
(03:47):
things to say about the passing of his friend George Floyd.
Here's the taste of it. We've seen it so many times,
so many times, and we see it right now face
and we don't get no justice. What happened? To come sense?
What happened? Just opening your eyes? Your eyes, donna work? Now? Videos?
What what is videos for? Videos? Donna work not. I
(04:07):
don't mean nothing only when you're black, Okay, I look
at it like this, George. I don't think an athlete
in has to be the modern day version of Malcolm X.
You know, we're not talking about actimism to the nth degree.
We're talking about if a media member comes up and says, hey,
(04:27):
what did you think about the George Floyd situation? I
don't think you can look down at the ground and
be like, I really don't have an opinion. Just get
gearing up for the season, you know what I mean.
I think that the least you can do is offer
up an opinion and what you think about the situation.
Without you don't have to say something that's inflammatory and
just take off a bunch of people for the sake
of doing so. But I think it's important to have
(04:50):
an opinion on matters like that these days. Yeah, yeah,
because especially when the motto of all athletes is I'm
more than an athlete. I mean, even if you look
at Tom Brady, he doesn't say that's not his motto,
more than an athlete, But if you look at it,
he's trademarking names, he's got TV twelve, lifestyle he's doing,
(05:13):
you know, he's clearly displaying I'm more than an athlete,
business ventures, working on after football stuff, producing documentaries, all
of this. Like he's more than an athlete, the same
way that Lebron is, you know, except for and everybody
has their own causes. Like you look at a guy
like Jason Witten, um longtime NFL tight end. He is
(05:35):
very very passionate about domestic violence. His his foundation does
a lot of stuff with that. So do I expect
Jason Witten to to pursue this UH issue with the
same fervor that he does for his passion. No, But
I do think that there is a responsibility to get
(05:59):
involved on some level of of support, whether that support
with your dollars, support with your time, support with UH,
you know, something that goes beyond just sending a tweet
because it's easy to send a tweet. You know, what
do you actually do to help people once the commotion
(06:19):
dies down. We're coming to you live from the Geico
Fox Sports Radio studios. Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen
per cent or more on car insurance. Visit geo dot
com for a free rate quote. I'm Brian though he's
George Rice stir So. Joe Burrow number one overall pick
go into the Cincinnati Bengals. He uh, he had a
tweet that caught that got a lot of reaction. It
(06:41):
reads the black community needs our help. They have been
unheard for far too long. Open your ears, listen and speak.
This isn't politics, this is human rights. I applaud Joe Burrow.
He easily could have taken the easy way out and
said I'm not gonna touch that one, a little too heavy,
a little bit two of the hot button issue whatever.
And look he at least he used this platform to
(07:05):
speak out. And I think that's the first step to
your point, George. It's great to fire off a tweet
like that and show support, but then when it turns
into action, that's the next level. Yeah. But but for
a player who's the number one overall draft pick, who
is white, who is celebrated, and he doesn't necessarily have
to get in it. I do think that that showing
support in that way is a big deal. Um And
(07:29):
And the thing I wanted to clarify, because I think
it gets confused a lot of times, is that when
athletes get to talking about, you know, uh, police brutality
and mistreatment, unarmed black men being killed, all all of
these things, a lot of people focus on the the deaths,
right and the reason why black people are so upset
(07:53):
right now, it's not just because of the deaths. It's
because of two things. One is because that areas and
in action. Once these things are caught on film, it's like, okay,
so you see what happened. Now, how can you then
justify this? And there isn't punishment because that then destroys
(08:13):
the community's faith in law enforcement and the judicial system,
which over and over again that makes people angry and
enraged because they don't feel like that they have a
voice or are heard. And the second thing is that
it's not just about the deaths. It's about the the
police interactions that don't end up in deaths as well,
(08:34):
it's those, you know, It's that black people are stopped
at a disproportionate rate, particularly in different neighborhoods. I live
in a very nice neighborhood and when I first got
around here, got stopped by the police a few times,
like hey, yo, what do you what do you? What
are you doing around here? Where do you? Where do
you live? And I'm like, I wonder how many people
have experienced that that just because they feel like you
(08:56):
belong there. So I think that that is the issue
bigger than the just one death, because there in the
grand scheme of death in the world, it's not that many.
But it's the overall mistreatment and the justice that doesn't
come behind that is the issue. And uh, this is
(09:16):
a little bit building off of what you were saying
right there, George. This is Saint Safety Malcolm Jenkins. He
was on Sports Center recently and he had this to
say about the anger being due to the delay of
the cop being arrested. Here you go, A lot of
the anger that you see that continues to go on
is that it took so long and it takes the
(09:37):
public pressure to to even get reasonable, you know, down
to get this guy arrested, and we still haven't got
the others who participated and allowed all of this to happen.
They're still out on the street. Oh and this is
what two weeks after Ahmad Aurberry, after it took so long,
we had the video, he was hunted down and and
(09:59):
and then people try to know angel him and did
That's the term I use when people, uh, when they
try to dig up dirt on you and they say, oh, well,
he's not an angel, So I guess this justifies it's
to some kind of way justify what happened to him
when they're in reality, there's no way to do it.
And people feel like, hold up, if I did that,
(10:20):
I would have been in jail immediately, and that people
citizens should not feel like that. There is a a
different set of standards when it comes to justice because
justice is supposed to be blind. There's a blindfold on
the on the on the scales of justice. Yeah, exactly,
it should be blind, it should be colorless. And um.
(10:40):
Something else to consider is the officer Derek Chauvin. He
was the officer who was kneeling on the neck of
George Floyd while he was handcuffed and on the ground
that officer or former officer. Now he's been fired, it's
been charged with third degree murder and also second degree manslaughter.
And I mean, really, which I hate to even say it,
(11:01):
but it's true for the bad cops out there. Not
all are bad, but for the bad ones, something has
to happen to a former officer like Derek Schauvin being
not only arrested, convicted, but tossed in jail for a
similar situation for an officer to think, all right, going
a little too far here, because this might come down
(11:22):
badly on me. And I think they're the bad cops,
not all of them, but the bad cops. They're not
thinking like that. I don't know how that thought doesn't
enter into your mind after what nearly nine minutes of
kneeling on a guy's neck, Like, how do you not think?
And he's right now and he's clearly not fighting back
like that, that's the that's the thing about it, And
that there were multiple angles demand we we haven't seen
(11:44):
any video where he was fighting or resisting. He was
handcuffed on the wall all of all of this, and
I think that, okay, So when people who are in
positions of power, regardless of whether you are the principle
of a school who's charged with spending the money correctly,
if you are a you know, a police officer, a
(12:07):
judge who's working with private prisons, anything like that. If
you're a person who is in a position of power
and you abuse that power, you should be punished even
more so than normal citizens because you destroyed the public's
trust in law enforcement. And those good officers that you
talked about, Brian, like, they have to have an obligation
(12:29):
to stop it. Because Derek shaven Chaving, however you say
his name, he had so many, uh like a litany
of of complaints against him for excessive force, and so
did one of the other officers where the city had
to pay out a settlement. And you're like, these people
should have been fired or prosecuted long before this. Like
(12:52):
you can't keep protecting people just because oh, we're police officers,
we stick together. No, if you're a bad police officer,
then you're not a police officer. You're a criminal. So
that they shouldn't protect criminals. They should protect officers, and
officers need to be protected, but criminals do not. Yeah, well,
I hear you, man. It's like if you compare this
(13:13):
in the NFL, hopefully this makes sense. But if a
player screws up, you know it's gonna get punished. If
a team owner, if an executive screws up, they're gonna
get punished even more harshly, you know what I mean.
They should think what you're saying. It's the opposite when
it comes to law enforcement at times, and it should
be flip flopped strange. The greater responsibility, the greater the
(13:35):
consequences should be when you mess up, because it's not
one of those jobs that, like, if you're a baseball player,
you can be successful thirty three percent at a time
hitting and you are a Hall of Famer. You know,
if you are a NFL wide wide receiver and you're
successful at sevent the the targets that come your way,
(13:57):
and you catch eighty five or ninety of the balls
that touch your hands, you are a great wide wide receiver. But, uh,
police and law enforcement is kind of like being a referee,
except for it obviously it's much more dangerous, much more
it's much more difficult, and the stakes are higher. But
it's one of those jobs where you don't get a
(14:20):
you get a teeny tiny margin for error. And and
if it comes up like you know, like the Saints,
if you missed that p I guy judging law enforcement
correct there, there's like you you could have a ref
that was on the whole season if you blow that
Saint's call. How does that work? Yeah, that's what you're
(14:42):
known for. That's your resume from that moment on. All right,
Planny to get to coming up next from the Guy
Coach Studios, we gotta look at the NBA. All right,
there might be as many as twenty two teams voted
on on Thursday. If that's the case, what should the
format look like? George and I we will anial our
inner NBA commissioner that's around the corner. I'm probably no,
(15:04):
he's George Riceter. This is Fox Sports Radio. I'm probably no.
He's George rice Ster here on Fox Sports Radio, coming
to you from the Geico Studios. You know, George Ryster.
I think there's an overreaction going on right now in
the world of the NBA. So a lot of discussion
about how many teams are gonna be invited to Disney World,
(15:27):
if you will, like the season resumes in Orlando, Yeah right,
it has new meaning to that. So Um, it might
be around twenty two teams. The latest rumors it's gonna
be twenty two teams. I've been hearing a lot, and
I'm sure you have two about this is the NBA
trying to get Zion in the playoffs. I think there's
(15:47):
some truth to that, George, But if you really if
you just look at the standings, I've never heard of
scenario where the NBA is thinking about bringing only eight
team teams back, right, it's always been twenty two. Do
you think it makes sense to bring eighteen teams back
where you just have two teams on the bubble there? Like,
(16:07):
does that make sense to you? I think you have
to have as many teams back as were eligible for
the playoffs, right like, well, yeah, And I think the
point I'm trying to make is if it's around twenty teams,
that's not like Zion's team isn't twenty in that pecking order,
(16:29):
where then it would make a lot of sense. Where
there's just clearly the NBA their desperate attempt to get
Zion involved in the playoffs, even if it was eighteen teams.
I've heard this talked about a lot, where they're just like,
screw the Eastern Conference teams they would steal if the Pelicans, Yes, right,
So I don't think this is they're trying to shoehorn
(16:51):
Zion in there, and there's a little truth to it,
but man, it's being harped on as if this is
just this pathetic, desperate attempt of the NBA to get
him in the playoffs. It wasn't a foregone conclusion that
that the that they weren't going to make the playoffs.
You know, the Memphis Grizzlies are sitting in the eight
spot in the Western Conference at thirty two and thirty three,
(17:15):
Portland's Trailblazers twenty nine and thirty seven, and the Pelicans
and thirty six, and so the Sacramento Kings, like all
those teams have a legitimate shot as due to San
Antonio Tonio Spurs and thirty six, which is odd because
the Sony and San Antonio Spurs have a winning record
every single year. But this is just bizarre, um, And like,
(17:37):
that's why what I think should happen with the NBA playoffs,
which I actually have been calling for for many years,
is instead of taking just the eight best teams, eight
teams with the best records out of the East and
the West respectively take the best sixteen teams. And that
also made like, granted, I know that the that you
(18:00):
that you play, you know like fifty some Western Conference
teams versus Eastern Conference teams and vice vice versa in
your conference, but maybe you can balance the schedule out
more and now you have a situation to where you
can take the best sixteen teams because like this year
you have you know, the Orlando Magic and the Brooklyn
(18:22):
Nets have both won thirty games and they're in the playoffs,
where the Western Conference like you can't even, you wouldn't even,
you would not be in the playoffs with thirty wins,
but you're in the seventh seed with thirty wins. Well
it works out. This year. This is different because what
you're talking about, that's normally the way it goes. But
this year, if you go the top sixteen teams, it
(18:44):
would be the current top six team teams, like the
Blazers have a worse record than the eight seeded Orlando Magic,
so it would it would still be the same sixteen teams,
but the path to a championship would be different because
it's one through sixteen, regardless of Eastern Conference, Western Conference,
which I'm fine with This year, I have no issue
with that. I thought I think it would be a
(19:04):
little bit different. Travel wouldn't come into play, so I'm
four one through sixteen this year. But yeah, you wouldn't
have a different collection of sixteen teams as the standings
are currently shaking out. Yeah, yeah, you you well, it
would depend because then the Brooklyn Nets or the Magic
could get bounced out of the playoffs. What what I happened?
(19:27):
And I'm not mad at that at all, because I
do believe that the best teams are the people's who
should be in the playoffs, like period. Like that. Actually,
I like your idea, George. I hadn't thought of it
like that. Is, if they come back and play X
amount of regular season games, you would say, all right,
we're not doing a play in thing. It's just one
through sixteen. Whoever is in there, well, then you're in
(19:50):
the playoffs. They could do it that way if they
wanted to. Oh yeah, And I think that that would
bode well for the future as well, because that would
be That's actually the way I think the playoffs should
be constructed. Period. Best sixteen teams in in the NBA,
because you don't because because you have teams that have
no shot. Their Atlando Magic have no shot against the
(20:12):
Milwaukee Bucks. The Brooklyn Nets no shot against the uh
against the Milwaukee Bucks, they have no chance of winning
a series. But if you take the Portland Trailblazers, if
they're firing all on all cylinders, they can give you
a better matchup. So can the Pelicans, so can the Grizzlies.
That's better than watching bad basketball day that much. I'm
(20:35):
against one through sixteen all the time. I'm good with
it this year for a couple of reasons. Everybody's gonna
be in Orlando, so you don't have any travel. That's
the big sticking point. But also this year I think
that it's just it gives you something unique to watch.
We never see this one through sixteen, regardless of Eastern Conference,
(20:56):
Western Conference. So without fans and attendance, that's like the
NBA saying, right, they're not gonna be fans there, there's
not gonna be this. This is gonna be different. They've
got to give us something, right. If they say I
we're gonna do one through sixteen, I think that gets
people further away from the asterisk talk. It's like we're
going like, oh, hey, we got this East versus West
(21:17):
first round matchup that doesn't happen before. I think that'd
be a healthy distraction. But I don't like it going forward, George,
because the travel if you've got say the Lakers in
Heat in the first round or whatever, and then the
Lakers when the Lakers in the seventies Sixers and you're
just going back and forth from coast to coast, would
work to to one one. I mean they do that already.
(21:41):
I mean it's not too much. Too much. You can
you can have Portland's playing in Houston, which is the
same thing as Indiana playing in l A. It's the
same difference. Yeah, but you could also have the Sixers
playing the Clippers, and then the Clippers playing the Heat,
and then the Clippers playing the Celtics, just coast to
coast each round. I just think that's too much. I'm
(22:04):
against one through sixteen. This is why they're paid the
big bucks. This is where you earn your money. This
is where you earn your forty million stuff, you know.
This is where you earn your this is where you
earn your bread. Yes, it is tough, but also they've
actually extended the playoff UM season two, so there are
longer breaks in between games, Like you're not playing every
(22:28):
other night, You're you're playing every other night for two
games and then you get three days off. You know.
So it's a definite UM. You know, it's definitely doable.
It'll be a little more taxing, but wouldn't it be
a little more interesting too. I like it for this year,
I just I don't like it going forward. And the
other reason I don't like it before we hear from
a friend of America, Mr Steve the Seger. The other
(22:50):
reason I don't like one through sixteen like outside of
this year going forward is because I like the rivalries.
I do like the tradition and I like that. I mean, goodness,
we just watched the Last Dance. I liked that Michael
Jordan and the Bulls had to fight for years to
get past the Pistons, and the rivalry just builds and builds,
(23:12):
and I like that. I don't want that to be
completely changed just so we can get a better sixteen
seed in there. That isn't gonna do jack anyway. I
don't want to get rid of tradition just for that purpose.
That's a reasonable That is a that's the best point
that you've probably made in about about the NBA. Wow,
(23:35):
thank you, Georgia's appreciate that, man. That's I don't normally
get rose pedals thrown at my feet by you. It's awesome.
I don't know, I don't know how to, I don't
have an acceptance speech prepared or anything. It's cut me
off guard. But thank you for that. Very nice of you,
very kind. Let's toss it over to a friend of America,
Mr Steve di Seger, to toss to spin us around
(23:56):
the sporting landscape. What's going on? Steve? Hello, gentlemen, And
there is no in census on anything yet in the NBA.
It's not the acrimony that baseball has. But it does
sound like whatever the commissioner puts forth in the coming week,
it will probably get voted through. But remember, as the
commissioner told players in recent weeks in a conference call,
the league is choosing from a lot of bad options,
(24:18):
done or risk free. Remember there was that GM survey
this past week. The traditional conference playoff format got sixteen
votes compared to fourteen for seating teams one through sixteen,
regardless of conference. When to end the season was a
question in the survey. Nine gms wanted to end it
by October one, seven voted to end by mid September eleven,
and the survey wanted to end October fifteenth or later.
(24:41):
There is no consensus. In fact, the commissioner is not
expected to invite every team to finish the regular season,
and the board on the conference call yesterday had no
consensus on that. According to AP, a target date to
return to play in the NBA is July thirty one.
According to the Athletic a vote on the NBA's future
is not affected until Thursday after that Board of Governor's
(25:02):
conference call yesterday, and the league has said it's hoping
to restart the season near Orlando. The NBA's and talks
to use Disney Sports Complex as the lone NBA campus
for practices, games and housing. Florida Gator's point guard Andrew
Nemhard removed his name from the NBA draft and will transfer.
He'll have two years of eligibility remaining after averaging about
(25:23):
eleven point six assist per game this past season and
then five assist per game as a freshman before that.
NASCAR's Cup races on FS one tomorrow three thirty pm
Eastern Time at Bristol Bristol about a half mile concrete oval,
and this will be the one cup race there dating
back to nine sixty one. Brad Keslowski will start from
the poll tomorrow. Starting positions were determined by a draw. Again,
(25:46):
no practice or qualifying leading up to race day to
limit exposure for the personnel there. FS one will also
have the Axfinity Series event on Monday night. The Formula
One racing season will begin in Austria with two events
in July and no fans there, but after government approval
today that's ago. There will be regular virus testing and
health checks for the limited number of workers allowed there.
(26:10):
MLB players Union, well, they told the players yesterday they're
still weighing the timing and substance of our response to
this week's economic proposal. Are Ken Rosenthal wrote that the
union is still awaiting documents from MLB to support those
claims of financial distress, which of course the union calls dubious.
Crowds may not be allowed at ball games this season,
(26:30):
and that causes the owners to want to compensate for
lost incomes at stadiums. In Japan's pro baseball season will
start June nineteen. Taiwan's had fans at its pro baseball
games for about a month now. South Korean Pro baseball
continues its season with no fans, and Germany soccer season
continues on FS one tomorrow morning, with another doubleheader starting
at nine thirty a m. Eastern on f S one.
(26:52):
Back to Brian No and George Reister. Thank you, Steve.
We're coming to see a live from the Geico Fox
Sports Radio studios. It's easy to say more on car
insurance with Geico, go to Geico dot com or call
eight hundred nine seven Auto. The only hard part figuring
out which way is easier. Can we agree on something here, George,
what were you gonna say that the NBA coming back?
(27:14):
We didn't, we didn't touch on it, but uh, but
Steve brought it up and I just thought it was
hilarious that it hasn't been talked about enough that do
you realize what the biggest sticking point, well not the biggest,
but one of the sticking points to the NBA coming
back has been no what is it? Player accommodations because
(27:38):
you have uh players, because if they're all staying at
Walt Disney World. There are different levels of hotels there,
and when NBA players travel, they stay at the Ritz.
They stay at the finest hotels period, and there are
only so many suites available. Mind you, there are a
(27:58):
ton of hotel room, but they are all not created equal.
So who gets the So it's like, yeah, the best ones.
You know, if you're the magic you get the Econo
Lodge and shut it. That's what you get. Like, win
more games and you get the big daddy sweet over there.
That's how it should go. That's the way to incentivize
(28:20):
the regular season. You know, NFL and NBA teams and
players are not gonna hear it, like Kyle Kyle Lowry
is gonna be like I'm an All Star and you're
like yeah, but not like Steph though. So man, you
talk about like Lebron something the country has no tolerance
for hearing. Right now, it's some multimillion dollars dollar NBA
(28:43):
players saying yea, this this uh living arrangement for the
time being is beneath me. Like that that just can't
be a thing, you know, should not be a thing.
I think I think we should be able to agree
on this. Possibly the World Cup stile format. They've talked
about this with the group play, and I freaking hate
(29:05):
this idea, George Rice or what do you think about this? Oh?
I hate it. It just creates more meaningless games sort
of because like it's one of those okay, so you
get one point for when I mean to two points
for a win, one point for a tie, you know,
no points for a loss. Like, how does this work? Man? No,
(29:26):
we we do not. The reason why Americans don't love
soccer is at the same rate that we love other sports.
It's the scoring. Like, no, we need winners, we need losers,
we need standings like pool play like that's base that's
Little league baseball tournament style. We don't want it, any
part of it at all. Don't want it. Do not
(29:49):
want it. It's been talked about where hey, maybe there's
twenty teams and we get four groups that have five
teams each. Everybody plays everybody a couple of times, so
you get eight games, right there. Top two teams advanced
to the next round. I'm like, we don't have vovo
zelas in the NBA, all right, this isn't the World Cup,
(30:10):
And I don't you like those things? Oh God? I
love that. I was so mad man, How could you?
How could you like those things? George? They were obnoxious?
But I don't want these non playoff teams right now,
like the Blazers, even though I'm broadcasting from Rip City.
Like the Blazers, the Kings, the Zions, like, I don't
want any of them. If you haven't earned your way
(30:31):
into the playoffs, you shouldn't be there in group play
where you can get hot over an eight game stretch
and be one of the top two teams to advance.
You shouldn't have that opportunity. Get out, get out with
the World Cup pool play stuff noxious. The best teams
win like that, so I don't. So while I agree
(30:51):
with you, I don't agree with the whole You know,
you don't want some guy getting getting hot coming in late. No,
the best teams win. I mean, it's the same. It's
like the argument about college uh football, where where people say, oh,
well college football football, like the best team they didn't
win their conference. Know, the best teams win their conference, period,
(31:13):
That's the way it works. Like you can't say that,
oh that Ohio State was the best team in the
Big Tip Well, sorry you, because you know Michigan doesn't
beat oh Ohio State, so I won't even use that example. Um,
and so you can't say that Michigan is the best
team in the Big Ten but then they lost to
Ohio State. No, the best teams win their conferences, period.
(31:37):
Look a World Cup style format in the NBA. It
would be a little bit like championship week in college basketball.
It would be exciting, but I freaking hate the principle
of it. You could be asleep at the wheel all
season long as a college basketball team, and if you
win your conference championship, you're going to the Big Dance.
Baby March Madness, Here you come, no questions asked. I
(31:59):
don't want that the n b A. I don't want
a team that's like say the Spurs. You highlighted their record,
their record stinks. If they all of a sudden got
hot in group play action, I think that's garbage that
you advanced. That would further incentivize you to not pay
attention at all to the regular season. Why would you
at that point it really doesn't matter. It's even more
(32:20):
watered down. I hate it. I hate the World Cup thing.
Hate that. You go ahead, soccer, you do that, fine,
You do you but not the NBA. No, don't want it.
I agree, but I disagree with the details you You
were on such a role today, Brian, Like I was like, okay, Brian,
Brian ate his wheaties today. Man, he's focusing on the
(32:41):
details all of that, and then you come back and
totally destroy it. Oh man, that is funny. You agree
with my conclusion, you just disagree with my reasoning. I
think that's the worst feeling as a sports radio host.
Right like you had it, You had the layup and
somehow you just screw rooted up right. That's kind of
how it goes, according to you, George Rice Stir, according
(33:04):
to you on that one. All right? Coming up next
from the Geico Studios, a couple of athletes that play
the same position have made some interesting comments. Will unveil
those for you next. It's I'm Brian No, he's George
Rice Ster. This is Fox Sports Radio. I'm Brian No,
He's George Rice Stir. There on Fox Sports Radio. We're
coming to you from the Geico Studios. Okay, a couple
(33:25):
of wide receivers in the NFL. George, they've said a
couple of things that are interesting lately. So how about
this DeShawn Jackson, wide receiver with the Eagles. He went
on his teammates show, This is Lane Johnson. He's got
a YouTube show named Outside the Lane. Get that? Uh
well yeah, yeah, yeah, you see what I did. There's
(33:51):
so here's DeShawn Jackson on Lane Johnson's YouTube show. It
starts with Lane and then DeShawn. He carries it on home.
This out unless they start making up everybody, Yeah, it's
gonna get crazy. I mean I think they should though, Bro,
they should give the fans like the insight to really
see what goes on in between the white line. Bro.
(34:12):
It gets crazy, all right, I like it. So DeShawn
is talking about there are we make up the players,
Let's hear the reel. Let's see what's going on on
the field. George, you have found a way to insert
this outrageous idea again. You brought it up with the NBA.
It was a terrible idea. Then great, Um football is
(34:36):
even worse, dude. You do not want people think they
want to go to the sausage factory because they like sausage.
But it is it's it's gross in there, man. It
is like I once was playing in a game where
one of my teammates convinced another grown man that he
(34:56):
was going to kill him like and and that he
had had relations with his sister. He said he had
had sex with his sister, and the man was like, no, no,
I don't know your sister. Like, how do you convince
another grown man of that? George, here's the I've heard
(35:19):
what said. I know you have. But you're thinking it's
gonna be live the whole time. They're not gonna go
there for the live audio. It's not like, hey, fumble
on the play, all right, there's a dog pile, all right,
we're gonna listen in to hear the conversation in real time.
We're not gonna do that. Dude, that would well, that's
what fans really want. I think that's what Sean was saying,
(35:39):
because what dude, if they let that happen, they don't
realize how many uh like you shouldn't be held accountable
during a game for either the I mean, there are
misogynistic things said. There are like all sorts of things
that by players to try to get under another guy skin.
(36:01):
So I just don't like it. I don't like it.
It's a lot like Sam Donald being miked up. Remember
when he was saying he was seeing ghosts. That's what
it would be. You would have a bunch of players
miked up, and they just take the good stuff. They
would beat it if they had to. They would mute
the cuss words if they needed to, but when they
(36:22):
made X type stuff, they would be muted the whole time. Baby, baby,
you mother, be baby your mother? Bi. Who's an NFL player?
That's pretty wild, right, Like maybe like Draymond was miked up,
who's an NFL version of say Draymond? Uh to oh
(36:43):
ray Lewis to rail sugs? Um? I mean there are
some Oh, there are some guys who get after it,
dude currently YEA like a lot of the oh my lord,
the worst, the dude who used to talk the most
but didn't have the game to back it up. But boy,
this dude could go. Was Fred's smooth dude trash And
(37:07):
I'm like, you stink, Like, why are you talking this
much trash? It's not like you're that good, Fred, Fred's
stop it. There's a great and just I had a flashback.
He's uh he was talking to Chad Johnson before a game,
and uh, Chad was saying something like he wasn't wearing
underwear and uh. Chad was like uh and Fred was like,
(37:29):
you're not wearing draws and Chad's like no, He's like,
because I'm get in your ass today. They said it,
and they were playing around like they were friends. But interesting,
I could see Fred talking a lot of trash exactly.
I mean, like, imagine how much trash gets talked. Oh
like Courtland fit frand who got beat up? Why? Uh?
(37:54):
I mean it's mainly the wide receivers and dvs because
the because because the big heavy duty guys, they're too
tired to be like expending energy talking. You gotta look
at the bright side here, George. Imagine if Dion Sanders
and Andre Risen were miked up when they're slapping each
(38:14):
other across the head, miked up sound of that? Yes, yes,
I could, you would. It would be okay. You know
how you had questions about the last dance being played
on on air with the curse curse words. Yep, yep,
that would be you would get your wish, you would
get it moved to a different channel, buddy. Yes, if
(38:36):
people missed that, I thought that there would be a
lot of complaining about the cussing on ESPN, and I
was dead wrong. No complaining, not at least mass complaints.
Did you see the beginning, by the way, the ratings
were terrible for Lance Armstrong? Uh, the Lance documentary? Did
you see the first couple of minutes of that, George, Yes, dude,
(38:56):
how were the it was? It's like, in two minutes,
I'm like, Holy God, no mass complaints. I guess it's
the pandemic going on. I don't know. No, people just
realized that they're watching cable television and they're like, and
I say worse, and you know, and you always hear
athletes now in press conferences used that kind of language,
(39:20):
and people do it on television now, Like I mean,
how many times have we seen on Fox News, CNN, MSNBC,
you know, like people using profanity on television on television?
Nobody bats and I buddy, because it's just a different
world that we live in. All right, We're gonna get
(39:41):
more in depth on this at the top of the hour.
But how about Texans receiver DeAndre Hopkins. He was on
Jalen and Jacobe and said that, yeah, I'm the best
receiver in football, and he talked about some of the quarterbacks. Well,
he didn't name his quarterbacks. He talked about other receivers.
Michael Thomas of the Saints. He's had Drew Brees his
whole career. Julio Jones has had Matt Ryan his whole career.
(40:05):
Who's a good quarterback. Finally someone talking positively about Matt Ryan.
He makes a good point. O Lord, Okay, we can
get in depth on Matt Ryan and how he's undersold
as a good NFL quarterback back. No, no, he is
a really good quarterback. He's just not special. Do you
buy that DeAndre Hopkins is the best receiver in football?
(40:25):
I can be sold on that. Yes, I mean I
can make an argument for that. Like I don't like,
it's not absurd, It's very reasonable. Yeah, it's not absurd
at all. I would go Julio Jones personally score enough touchdowns. Great,
Granted some of that is Matt Matt Ryan's fault, but
still see, I knew you were gonna throw shade at
Matt Ryan. Unbelievable. All right, coming up next to the
(40:47):
Geico studios, we'll SoC go back to that. And also,
a player is getting heat, is it well deserved heat? Though?
We'll investigate. You know, George, we are headed straight towards
disagreement Ville. That is right, disagreement avenue over. I know
(41:09):
we're gonna go back and forth on this next topic.
So we started to didn't know, I know what you did.
I think that from Saturday at eight pm until un
till the following Saturday. So you you have, you know,
six days in twenty one hours to come up with
(41:33):
something that is going to be so outrageous that you're
gonna just make my head blow up. Okay, and so
I'm so I'm waiting, go ahead. That's so that's you
got me figured out some around. Man, it's Tuesday already. Gosh,
clock is ticking. I got this not outrageous enough. Back
to the drawing board. I really got to get a
rise out of George. That's how I get down throughout
(41:53):
the entire week. Huh oh, I mean, like you, you
interviewed a bunch of people this this week. You you
had Paydon Pritchard to Brina and ask you you had
a great week this week. But in between all the
all of that, yes, I do think there's a little
bit of time spent on that. Okay, all right, well,
thank you. I appreciate that, alright, So you tell me
(42:15):
in this next little spiel of mine if you think
this is me, I don't know, kind of manufacturing controversy,
or if this is just what I think. Right. So
let's hear the audio. This is DeAndre Hopkins, Texans wide receiver.
He was a guest on Jalen and Jacobe and he
was talking about being the best receiver in the league.
Listen real carefully though to his argument. Check this out.
(42:39):
I definitely think him the best. I know him the best.
You know, Mike, my boy. I love Mike who was
chasing yesterday. But he knows if I had Drew Brees
my whole career, what these numbers would be. Julio Jones
know if I had Matt Ryan my whole career. That's
my boy. I trained with Julio too, he knows these
numbers to be. So you know, those guys are definitely
blessed to be in a position where their whole career
they had a Probowl quarterback in the back that they
(43:00):
spent you know, multiple seasons with. Okay, I like the argument,
would you buy that if Julio Jones had the equivalent
of Drew Brees, his entire career, his numbers would have
to be better. Right, You would agree with that, wouldn't you. Yes, Well,
if if DeAndre Hopkins did absolutely absolutely mean he has
He's had um, you know, Deshaun Watson the last couple
(43:24):
of couple of years or at least part of part
of all the years, and his numbers have been great.
And DeAndre Hopkins, and he was a young guy, so
imagine continuing to grow and mature there. But but before that, dude,
he had had like a bag of donuts. I mean,
he had had everybody from brock Osweiler down to you know,
I mean just just Yan. Yeah, a litany, a litany
(43:48):
of backup quarterbacks pretending to be starters. On fifteen season
was amazing. He put up huge numbers and had Brian
Hoyer start nine games, Ryan Mallett with four, j Yates
with two, and Brandon Weeden with one, and still had
a hundred and eleven catches and eleven touchdowns. That's insane.
(44:09):
That means that you are so phenomenal that they can
just throw you the ball and you will catch it.
Because if you look at throughout his career, I think
he's I think he has the least amount of drops
of any wide receiver. I mean, then the dude is
just just consistent since two thousand thirteen, Um when when
(44:30):
when he was a rookie, when he only had fifty
two receptions, He's had more than that every single season.
He's caught over nineties six balls, four seasons, you know,
and he's only finished under a thousand yards twice, and
one of them was in two thousand and sixteen when
he had a bag of donuts at quarterback. Right, and
he's yeah, he's spectacular, He's a fantastic receiver. Now prepare
(44:55):
for the sharp left turn, George Rice. There, here's where
disagreement Lane comes into the pick. Sure, it's funny. It's
funny to me how we can both be on the
same page when it comes to hey, if DeAndre Hopkins
had a better quarterback throwing him the ball, he would
have better numbers. But heaven and then forbid, we bring
up Tom Brady and his lack of weapons around him.
(45:17):
And if I dare say, if he had better weapons
around him, his production would have been better last year.
Radical No, radical, No, it's just crazy Tom Brady LoveFest
over here. That's what it turns into. It's wrong. I
won't stand for it. George Rice Stir, you got it
perfectly right. You had that. You nailed that to the
T brand note. Because Tom Brady's a hundred and fifty
(45:40):
six years old, he is, his skills are diminishing. Father
time is catching up with Tom Brady. There's no denying it.
And and and the argument that I resent about Tom
Brady and the lack of weapons is is that for
Tom Brady's entire career, the badge of honor that that
(46:03):
supporters had for him is you can give Tom anybody.
He hasn't had any great receivers except for Randy Mawson
and gronk Uh. He hasn't had any elite receivers the
vast majority of his career. And he's doing it. I mean,
I was just saying, he's been doing it, and doing it.
He can win with anybody. He's turned Julian Edelman into
(46:24):
into a postseason Hall of Fame, even though he's not
a real Hall of Famer, a postseason Hall of Hall
of Famer. And then he gets a season where yeah,
talent is down, and now all of a sudden, we
want to start building in excuses instead of just saying
he's getting a little old. Hey, hey, hey, I just numbers,
don't lie. Remember that show on ESPN. I'll give you
a couple of numbers over here. If you look at
(46:46):
the top four receivers from the Patriots last year, two
of the four we're running backs. If you go by receptions,
it was Julian Edelman, followed by James White with something
with patches on the backfield, Philip door Set and Rex
Burke Head. Those are your top four receivers of the Patriots.
(47:07):
Come on, I love this. My favorite fact, Ryan Zzo
one of the tight ends. You know, they didn't have
drunk anymore. So it was Matt lacos with thirteen receptions
last season and Ryan Izzo with six catches, which was
just too better than Antonio Brown who was there for
one week. That's what he had. A tight end, A
(47:27):
combined nineteen receptions with Matt Lacosse and Ryan is a
good lord man. Hey, if Tom's the superhero that you
say is and you say he's better than than than
Peyton Manning, he should have been able to do something better.
But but back to what the subject was at at hand,
which was about DeAndre Hopkins and I just and I'm surprised,
(47:52):
even though we don't take calls on this show, I
would be surprised if the phone lines are not lighting
up right now, if michaelmas isn't using him every one
of his cell phones, his house phone, everything else to
call in and and say, No, I'm the best receiver
in the league. No, you you better not saying you
guys are terrible radio host. Yeah, I'm the best because
(48:17):
Michael Thomas is one of the best receivers in the game.
You can make an argument that he's the best, but
you can also say that he's the most sensitive player
in the NFL. Like, where's this coming from? Why do
you say this every time somebody gets into debate like nothing,
I mean, just just a a healthy conversation about ball.
(48:39):
He wants to interject and and and make his step. No,
I'm the best, dude. There was an I think you
saw no the Instagram post somebody pop posted it. They said,
what's the hardest thing to do? Catch a ball on
Stefan Gilmore or break up a pass with Michael Thomas
(49:00):
trying trying to catch it? Uh? Parker DeVante Parker right, Yeah,
the Dolphins wide receiver commented on it and said, Stefan Gilmore,
here comes Michael Thomas off the top row. Mind you,
they didn't say this Stefan Gilmore was better. They didn't
(49:20):
say that Stefan Gilmore could could guard Michael Thomas any
of that. He comes in No, you suck, you suck, DeVante,
you stink I'm better than you. And it's like, bro,
nobody was even comparing that, Like you come in here
getting all you know, all Ralph Transvant man with sensitivity
(49:40):
in here, like dude, like can you imagine, uh, you know,
Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant, somebody having a debate, Like
if somebody put up a question and said, is it
easier to block Michael Jordan's fade away or get a
rebound while Dennis Rodman is trying to rebound right there?
There's no way they're punching down like that, like how
(50:03):
dare you sell me short? But Michael Thomas does. By
the way, that back and forth between those two, Devonte
Parker and Michael Thomas, that was some top shelf trash talking.
You gotta go back and revisit that one of the
trash talking. Um, I guess tweets or I don't know
if they're going back and forth and I G or Twitter.
It doesn't matter on social media. And Devonte Parker was like, yeah,
(50:25):
let me go out and get three hundred targets like
Michael Thomas does. It was funny. I like some of
that stuff. There's healthy back and forth. But you're right,
Michael Thomas is pretty sensitive to engage like that. It's
not like I don't mind that at all, dude. It's funny,
it's entertaining. We're coming to you live from the Geico
Fox Sports Radio studios. Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen
(50:46):
percent or more on car insurance. Visit Geico dot com
for a free rate quote. So it's settled. You could
talk about DeAndre Hopkins being arguably the best receiver in football.
You could still talk about Tom Brady arguably being the
best quarterback and football is no, no, no, no, no,
Tom Brady is not the best quarterback in football. Yes,
I was. I was about to say you would you
(51:07):
would have to like, you cannot say that he is
better than UHS got up Pat Patrick Mahomes and the
idiocy that you said two weeks ago where you said
with Russell Wilson He's not better than Russell Wilson. He's
not better than uh than Patrick Mahomes, He's not even
(51:28):
better than Deshaun Watson at this point in time. No,
I wouldn't go that far. Of course you wouldn't. I
would come on playoffs. Have you seen the Shawn in
the playoffs? I know you have. He was horrible against
the Colts a couple of years. Our guy Don Brown,
he's a Texans fan, our technical producer. Can you tell
the people, Don Brown, just how horrible Deshaun Watson was
(51:49):
against the Colts. You remember that game? Right? Um? I don't,
but if I had to guess, he was amazing, exactly exactly.
I like it, Don Don Brown. But but these beefs
and fights over who's better and all this, Dude, I
just find it interesting that now in our country that
people are more apt to, like get in fights on
(52:12):
social media. Like remember where it was taboo, like, no,
keep your social media clean, you don't want these kind
of problems, blah blah blah. Now now you have players
fighting on social social media, which which makes sense because
there's competitive juices and all that. But when you get
people like uh Barretts, uh Sleay and and Dan woke
(52:33):
in on here fighting it is do Social media is
hilarious at this point in time, especially when reporters or
people in the same genre. You got you got Peter
King and Clay Travis fighting. Dude, there's always something gold
to pay attention to. Twitter is bathroom graffiti. If you
(52:54):
go to the bathroom, some of it is freaking hilarious,
and other parts you're like, oh my gosh, like this
is beyond in bad taste. But that's what Twitter is.
It's a mixture of that, but it's totally bathroom graffiti. Okay.
Coming up next from the Geico Studios, a player gets
called out. Was it deserved or undeserved? We'll dive into that.
(53:17):
I'm Brian though, he's George rice Stir. This is Fox
Sports Radio. I'm Brian No, he's George rice Stir here
on Fox Sports Radio. We're coming to you from the
Geico Studios. Hey, get your free credit scorecard today, even
if you're not a discovered customer. It includes your Fico
credit score and checking your scorecard won't hurt your credit.
(53:37):
Learn more at discover dot com. Slash credit scorecard limitations apply.
All right, I gotta get your take on this, because
it was a hot topic here in Portland this week.
Damian Lillard earlier in the week told Chris Haines off
Yahoo Sports, Hey, I'm not playing in meaningless games. If
the season restarts and there aren't enough games the Blazers
(54:00):
to get into the playoffs, I'll sit on the bench.
I'm not gonna play. Uh. And that got a lot
of reaction. One of the media members reacting to it
was Dan Orlovski. Former quarterback Danny Boy Mr ran out
of the back of the end zone. That's true. He
did one time against the Vikings, very low scoring game.
(54:22):
It was like two. I don't know if it was
I'd have to go back and look up that score.
But yes, yes, he ran out of the back of
the end zone for a safety. Most well known for that.
But this is a portion of what Dan had to
say on Get Up based on Dame's comments. I struggle
with sitting here and going you don't come off as
a as a uh in some way, and it's spoiled
(54:44):
and entitled bratt by saying I'm not gonna play. Okay,
I babbled about it all week, George, I'm curious what
you think the floor is yours. Okay. So I think
there's a lot of times in media, what what is
one of the things that that the first things that
they teach you about covering sports and covering people? Know what? Um?
(55:09):
I think what you're getting at is don't make it personal,
correct and attack the act, not the person. And because
when you look at Damian Lillard's history, he's a dude
who came out of Weber State. He took the hard route,
you know what I mean, Like he didn't he didn't
go he wasn't I mean even though he was the
(55:30):
first round pick, Like, he didn't go the hard route.
He's from Oakland, been through a lot of things. Uh, Like,
there's nothing spoiled and entitled about Damian Lillard. So to
imply that is like, I understand why that was very
offensive to Damian Lillard. I'd be piste off too if
(55:52):
you said that about me. I do think that That's
why I do think that Dame has a point. Because
you're you only have so many laps in your legs.
You you can only play for so long, and the
NBA should not be having them play meaningless games. That's
(56:15):
why all the teams aren't gonna be invited back, which
makes sense. It's just the dame just had the gumption
to be able to say it, because why would you
go out there and put yourself at risk for games
that truthfully don't matter at all? Like you need to
be willing to, like if if you're the league, find
(56:38):
a way for these games to be interesting. And that's
why a playing tournament is a is a very feasible
option that makes a lot of sense. It is a
like it's a good option. So why on earth? Like,
I just don't think that fans have the right to
try to criticize somebody like Emmy or media members have
(57:01):
the right to criticize somebody like Damian Lillard, somebody who's
put his heart, soul and all of that into the
game about something like like I like that. I'm just
not in on it at all. You make a good argument.
I'm gonna go the other way. I'm gonna go the
other way here because it's there's a big difference between
(57:22):
sitting out, like the action of sitting out for all
the reasons that you explained, if the Blazers don't have
enough games to make the playoffs, and it's like, why
would I gamble my long term health to play these
meaningless games. I get it. There would be many teams
that if they're meaningless games, they're gonna be holding out
their best players. But this isn't a normal time. There's
(57:44):
a global pandemic right now. There are forty million Americans
out of work. So for Dame, if he has the
opportunity to play and he's like, nah, I'm good, I'm
not gonna play. While the time and place that we're
living in where forty million Americans are to work, a
lot of them want to work, they don't have the
opportunity to work. So it was never going to land
(58:06):
well with Dames saying now I'm good. So I can
understand what he was getting at fully, but to say
it publicly, it's just it was never going to be accepted. Okay.
It was one of those it came out differently or
somebody had to say it, kind of like Snail the
picture from the UH from the UH Tampa Bay Rays,
(58:30):
like he had to somebody had to say it, and
it was the truth. But that doesn't mean that it
makes you know, everybody comfortable who says it, because, like
you said, there's so many people out of work who
are having a just a tremendously tough time, and that's
not what they want to hear. They want to be entertained.
(58:51):
And especially when you got a guy making thirty five
thirty three thirty five million million dollars, you're like, you
don't want to play? I mean, like, because there's that
inherent thing in that fans, you know, kind of get
offended by with players. Some sometimes they're like I would
play for free. Like, yeah, you would, until you're getting
paid for it, and then you're like, no, I won't
(59:13):
play for free. You know, it's one of the things
like you're supposed to want to play, and I think
that that conflicts with how fans feel that players should
feel about playing in and of itself. That's I think
it's a great comparison between Dame and Blake Snell because
both make good arguments. But with Blake Snell, if he's
(59:35):
like I'm taking all this risk and I'm making a
fraction of my salary when it's way less than what
we agreed to, I'm not feeling that he was crushed
for that. Because there are a lot of people out
of work. They want to work and they're not trying
to hear that. So it was the same thing with Dame.
It just it wasn't going to land. Well now, Oh,
it was kind of like the um when the NFL Draft.
(59:57):
Remember I told you with the NFL Draft that they
weren't going to talk about money because the pandemic was
going on, and they shied away from it as much
as possible. Same thing, They're like, you gotta stay away
from the hot button issues because like it's gonna make
people upset because they're going through so much. Yeah, and
Dame responded on Twitter to Dan Orlovsky and he deserved
(01:00:19):
to be anytime you call somebody selfish and and and
spoiled and entitled, you're like, who are you? Like? Here's
this tweet. George Dame wrote, entitled and spoiled, m F
watch your mouth. My background, family and character couldn't be
further from entitled and spoiled. I said what I said.
(01:00:41):
That is my favorite stand Why Dame would be upset
about that, I get it, yes, And but my favorite
saying right now out in the world is I said
what I said. Oh God, I love it because it
is just so powerful. It's like it's when it dis
are it just takes all the power away from what
the other person said, because they tried to talk you
(01:01:02):
out of it, and you're and you're like, no, I
said what I said, like, there's no backing down from it.
I meant it like it's just so insulting on the
other end, like I don't care about your argument. I
said what I said. Yeah, you're standing on standing your
ground on that. Yeah. I just think it was a
poorly timed comment by Dame. But I wouldn't go as
far as to say his he's like, the thing is
(01:01:25):
Dani Rolovski is not saying this is Dame. He's entitled
and spoiled to his core. He's nothing but that. He's
like those comments seemed a little, a little entitled. It's
as crazy as it turned out to be. Like, how
dare you called me entitled and spoiled? I did? I did? Yeah,
you did take it that way? Yeah, because I mean,
(01:01:47):
look at as somebody who's watched the Blazers closely, remember
last season, everybody wrote the Blazers off. They were like,
this team stinks, they won't win, there's not a chance,
and then Dame and McCullough took this team that of
the cast of misfits. Even after Nurkic got hurt, all
(01:02:09):
of that cast of misfits took him, took him almost
to the NBA Finals, And you're gonna sit up there like,
and this is the guy that you want to like
refer to that as nah player. That's that's a bad look.
I think he was doing fine. Dan was making a
good point until he said the entitled and spoiled thing.
And even though I think that it was taken to
(01:02:32):
be a shot across the bow when it wasn't quite
the name calling that it's turned out to be. That's
what stuck with people. See, I get kind of how
it happened because as you know, like as a person
who at times like there have been years where I've
done you know, hours in upon hours of live radio
(01:02:54):
and television in one day, like where you know, like five,
well like six seven hours in one day, and sometimes
you kind of get in that groove where you're just
going and going. And that's what I think that happened
to a Dan. He just put his foot and he
just put his foot in his mouth, and because you see,
it kind of came out and it wasn't as premeditated
(01:03:16):
as it probably sounded as well. Okay, one last thing
to add to this, and we got to talk about
some duo's over here. Got an interesting tweet. I want
to get your feedback on this, George, But first a
friend of America to spin us around the sporting landscape,
Mr Steve de Seger, Hello, gentlemen, and again a vote
on the NBA's future is not expected until Thursday. Yesterday,
(01:03:39):
they had a Board of Governors conference call. The league
has the right to recoup roughly one percent of each
player's salary for every regular season game that is canceled
for these unforeseen reasons. As far as this year's NBA schedule,
each team had under twenty games left in a full
regular season. It certainly could be fewer than an eighty
two game season this year. Games in Orlando could report
(01:03:59):
it be played throughout the day like at Summer League.
They want to Orlando for practices, games, and housing at
the enormous Disney Sports Complex there. The NHL had already
approved restarting with a four team playoff this year, so
those seven non playoff teams this year, they're done, and
they now potentially have over nine months off from Marches
(01:04:20):
suspension of this season to the start of the next
hockey season. The NHL is looking at using two different
neutral sites for its games, likely including Las Vegas. By
the way, Steve, where have I been? I just learned
that there are thirty one teams in the NHL. How
long has that been a thing? It is an odd
thing because Seattle hasn't joined yet and Vegas did join,
So yeah, it's kind of like since Vegas they've been
(01:04:42):
thirty one. Good lord, I didn't get the memo on that.
You know how we've talked before on the NFL, how
it's just perfect right now with the schedule and the
even numbers and the divisions are the same. You know
how Baseball for a while was a mess where this
had seven or six and you know what, enough things
weren't even, and then you had the Cubs rivals change
(01:05:02):
in the Brewers became a Cubs division upon, you know,
and all of that. NFL is perfect, and I think
the NHL has a chance to have that same type
of numerical perfection once Seattle comes in thirty two. For now,
for this year, they're gonna have the top four teams
in each conference play each other in a mini tournament
for seating, while the remaining sixteen teams that are alive
(01:05:24):
started best to five playing round that will then set
up the final sixteen clubs to compete for the Stanley
Cup this year. Again, many other aspects still need to
be negotiated with the Union before hockey games can begin,
including health and safety protocols. There's another Super Bowl re
air on Fox TV tomorrow three pm Eastern Patriots Eagles
from two thousand five. Gonna be watching that, right, Georgia
(01:05:44):
boy Tom Brady winning a Bowl, right, dude? I was
Actually that game was in Jacksonville and I saw that
up close and personal. Did you cheer Tom Brady? I
was still playing. Hell No, OK, but things have changed
since he stopped playing. I guess it's no. That's not
(01:06:06):
what I was saying. I appreciate his greatness. There is
no cheering, though. There is yet another of baseball's greatest
games on FS one right now late innings, the Atlanta
Brives trying to close out mid nineties World Series with
Tom Glavin on the mountain, trying to close at the
Cleveland Indians. By the way, the Athletics says the Pittsburgh
Pirates will pay all minor leaguers currently on their roster
(01:06:27):
full per d M the four dollars plus healthcare through
at least the end of June. Minor league roster cuts
still are being considered, but none have been made so far.
So the Pirates at this point have three hundred plus
minor leaguers. Remember, we didn't finish spring training, so a
lot of teams have not formally had these cuts of
guys that would have largely been cut at the end
of spring training at the end of March. The Major
(01:06:50):
League Baseball Players Union told it's guys yesterday they're still
weighing the timing and substance of a response to the
economic proposals from the league this week. Players still want
their ORO rated salaries without pay cuts, and of course,
this very strong union still needs to approve any owner's
plan for this season. Back to Brian no and George Reister.
Good stuff, Steve, We're coming to see alive from the
(01:07:11):
Geico Fox Sports radio studios. It's easy to say or
more on car insurance with Geico. Go to Geico dot
com or call eight hundred nine four seven Auto. The
only hard part figuring out which way is easier by
the way real fast. That was another reason the Dame
comment didn't land well he did. All these minor league
baseball players getting cut and Dames like, I'm not playing
(01:07:33):
meaningless games. It wasn't gonna land. Wells say go ahead,
last thing, I'll say go ahead. Sorry. Oh is that
with the minor league ers? You had David Price who
just got traded from the Red Sox to the Dodgers.
She said he's paying a thousand dollars to each of
the minor leaguers, and I was just like, wow, Like
(01:07:55):
that's that's really cool. Yeah, that's very nice. Um, before
we get to the duo's here. I saw this a
lot with This isn't just a Dame dan Orlovsky thing.
There are a lot of people Dame was one of them.
There are a lot of people on Twitter They're like,
here's a backup quarterback. Why were you even listening to
this guy? I think that's so childish, George. I think
(01:08:17):
it's disagree with the argument. Don't disagree with the argument
because of the resume that that makes no sense whatsoever.
People automatically do that, and that's why, truthfully, that's why
you don't always see some of the best broadcasters on
television and then don't always like get the opportunities early
(01:08:40):
as some other people do because they don't necessarily have
that resume that people can can't say, oh yeah, he
can say anything that he wants. He's a he's a
Hall of famer, he knows best. But when we have
seen throughout history like that, the best players don't always
make the best announcers. They don't always make the best
coaches any of that completely, And sometimes dudes that weren't
(01:09:05):
that good as players are phenomenal broadcasters. That's ridiculous. Hey,
look at how many starts he had. It's like, no,
just disagree with the stance, that's all you have to do.
How about this on Twitter? I got a tweet here
from Stephen Check this out, George, Matt Ryan and Julio Jones.
This isn't my burner by the way, Matt Ryan and
Julio Jones best quarterback wide receiver duo of this generation?
(01:09:31):
What I wanted to hear? What say on that? George? Yeah?
I mean I could argue Big Ben and uh maybe
yes you can. Are I mean like there is a
littan net Wait wait actually and when is this generation? Stuff?
That's what I was to our producer Lee Robert to
Lap the fourth I was like, how do we define generation? Right?
(01:09:54):
Are we going back to two thousand? What exactly are
we doing? Because you would have to have Peyton Manning
and Marvin Harrison in that mix, right, I could go Peyton,
Peyton Manning and Reggie Reggie Wayne Peyton Manning. I mean, like, dude,
there's a lot of how about how about Peyton Manning
and Tracy Porter? That was pretty good? Remember the Super
Bowl against the Saints. Pack of a combination, right, I
(01:10:18):
mean you could I mean, like, there are so many
wide receiver combos that you could go with that. I
mean you could even go with uh Drew Drew Brees
and my man from Hofstra who Marcus Colston. Huh yeah
mentioned once that was a good one, but uh yeah,
(01:10:38):
I mean who would you say in the two thousand's
best quarterback wide receiver duo, You're putting Peyton Harrison at
the top most likely if they had a ring, that'd
be at the top. Yep. I mean like that, I mean,
or you could go like, I mean Big Band in
Santonio Holmes was really good. You could go with uh
(01:11:03):
Plexico and Eli was good. You, I mean like you've
had some. I mean I don't think that those are
some of the upper tier echelon ones, but there have
been some really good ones, dude. And I think that
Peyton and Marvin or Peyton and uh Reggie Wayne have
to be at the top of the list because you're
looking at two Hall of Famers there. How about Jay
(01:11:25):
Fiedler and Chris Chambers from my Miami Dolphins. How about
that was pretty electric, wasn't it. It's been slim picking.
I pray, I pray the guy dumpster fire of of
lack of excellent And that's why the get Trevor Lawrence.
(01:11:47):
That's why they need to get Trevor Lawrence for the
next fifteen years. You know, oh stop stop, I'm not
even giving. I refuse to give that life today. You
know what, Without getting into that whole debate again, the
Dolphins haven't had a Pro Bowl quarterback since Marino. They've
had twenty one guys, not even a Pro bowler Georgia
(01:12:09):
exactly like the Browns, horrible, horrible existence. Pro Bowl is
such a low standard. Which is the crazy part about
it is that is that like when people start counting
Pro Pro Bowls. Pro Bowls are popularity contests, and sometimes
you will have a guy who made All Pro not
(01:12:29):
be a pro bowler or be an alternate, and you're like, really,
it makes no sense. Happen a couple of times this
past season. How can you be an all that's more
elite but not the pro bowler? All Pro is the
crim della crim Like that is the highest honor that
you can get. They're trimming the Pro Bowl fat for
you to be an All Pro. I don't know how
(01:12:51):
you can be called pro but not Pro Bowl. It
makes no sense whatsoever. That's because fans get votes and
so do media members with access to grind. Yeah, alright,
coming up next from the Geico Studios and acts to Grind.
Actually a very good segue with this next subject. I
think we're actually gonna be on the same page on
(01:13:12):
this one. George Rice to find out next. I'm Brian
though he is Mr Riceter. This is Fox Sports Radio.
I'm Brian, No, he's George Rice Ster here on Fox
Sports Radio. Coming to you from the Geico Studios. By
the way, George, I was informed by our technical producer
Don Brown that Luda he took down Nelly last week,
(01:13:35):
a couple of weeks. How long ago was that? It
was last week? Yea? So it was decisive victory. They
were just going song for song and there archives who
had the better song list, Luda, he took it either
thirteen to seven or twelve to eight. I think that
sounds about right, you, well, yeah, you know that. I
(01:13:56):
think that you have to be strategic with what you play.
Like somebody plays their best hit. You don't play your
best hit, according at like you play like just a
gimme at that point. Like it's like playing cards, right,
if you're playing spades or something. If someone has trump,
you just throw stuff out there, right. You don't throw
good stuff, you throw bad stuff. I appreciate the fact
(01:14:18):
that you know that. No, thank you. I'm cultured. I'm
cultured over here. You you you you ain't cultured with
with a food. But you do not have play space,
which I'm not mad at. Nice Alright, So I think
we're gonna join forces on this one. So Jim Harbaugh,
the head coach at Michigan, he's been there for five years,
as you well know, George, and um, it's been how
(01:14:41):
would you describe it? Overall disappointment Rocky won would be
the word for Jim harbaught Michigan. Um, I would say
it's been below expectations and the re The only reason
why I would even say that is because if you
(01:15:04):
look at his record by year, right, he has since
he's been at Michigan, he's won UH ten games, ten games,
eight games, ten games in nine games, okay, and that
means that he lost three three five three four. And
mind you, like in any other place, that's a like
(01:15:29):
a lot of places are extremely happy. Like if he
were doing that at Michigan State, nobody would be upset, right,
as long as he occasionally beat Michigan. The problem is
is that he was brought into that like the way
Ohio State people feel about football, I'm sorry. The way
(01:15:50):
Michigan and Ohio State people feel about their game is
is that if they have a coach, they want him
to beat the other person, even if they go d
feed it the whole season and they beat UH. And
if Michigan beat Ohio State every year and that was
the only game they want, he would not get fired. However,
(01:16:12):
that's not what's been going on. No, he's over don
goose Egg And to your point, George he walked in
with credentials, right, he turned around Stanford five seasons. Yeah,
and look at his success with the forty niners. So
he goes into Michigan and the Michigan Faithful they're like,
all right, it's on baby, and it hasn't been Yeah,
(01:16:33):
I mean like he's been solid, but you know, like
the the expectations were getting Michigan to national championships. Yeah. Well,
it's interesting you say that, because that's the great segue here.
So he was interviewed by Social Distance. This is via
seven Sports, and they were asking how close Michigan has
(01:16:55):
come to winning the national championship in his five years
there as the head coach. Here's how Jim Harball responded, Well,
I mean you could just look back over the last
the last years that we've been here, the last five years,
I mean, uh you know, about as close as you
can possibly be. Uh so, but you gotta put it
over the top. As I said, that's what drafts. Okay,
(01:17:15):
about as close as you could possibly be to a
national championship. George, would you buy that? No, close as
you could be to a national championship? I would say
that a team that has been closest to the national
championship in the last ten years without winning one. I
would be no, I would say, well, well them, them,
(01:17:36):
them too, because they played it. Actually, they were so
far away from that game that they didn't even count.
Family game was brutal. The Clemson game was awful. Of Yeah, yeah,
I would say the Oregon Ducks right, like championship real
close with you know, yeah, yeah that they running down?
(01:17:56):
Was he not? Like yeah, So I would say that
that's a team that's been as close as you could
possibly be without winning it. In the last two years,
two national title games, they were both close and you
don't win, Like, that's as close as you can possibly be,
or the only other option is if you make the playoffs.
Michigan has not only not made the playoffs, they haven't
(01:18:20):
even won the Big Ten. And they've lost four straight
bowl games. They lost the Citrus Bowl, the Peach Bowl,
the Outback Bowl, and the Orange Bowl, like four straight
bowl games. So it's like, you can't say that you
were that close. Yeah. If you go back to the season,
which was the best one for Michigan with Jim Harbaugh
(01:18:43):
being there, that was the year the controversial spot with JT.
Barrett in Ohio State. Was it the first down? Was
it not? If they lost that game? Yeah, that was
their second You say it wasn't. No, I didn't think
it was the first down. I just say Michigan got
jobbed in that one. Okay. Um, So that was the
second loss for Michigan that year. They went on to
lose the Orange Bowl. But what's damning evidence against Michigan
(01:19:06):
and this argument of been as close as you can
possibly get. So Ohio State went to the College Football
Playoff that year. They lost to Clemson thirty one to nothing. George,
the team who beat Michigan got skunked. So and you
probably would have had to see Michigan not only beat
Clemson but also Alabama in the College Football Playoff. Do
(01:19:28):
you really think Michigan is on par with those schools?
That was the Deshaun Watson Clemson team that took down Obama.
You think Michigan's beating both of those teams. Here's the
truth about Michigan football. Like it it's sad, but you
know where it's almost like they are very similar to
Texas in that the people who cheer for them think
(01:19:51):
that their history is a lot better than it really
has been. Kind of like the Knicks of college football
a little bit, uh, because the Knicks have been bad
for a while, Like you gotta go back to the
seventies for a title. Yeah, so, so what I'm saying
is that is that Texas right, Texas fans are like,
(01:20:13):
we should be winning national championships every year. Yes, slowdown,
You're not Alabama, you know what I mean? Like it's
it's it's where the expectation is that. Well, the way
the fans feel about their program is different than the
actual reality. And the same thing with Michigan football. I mean,
before Hardball got there, they hadn't won They had only
(01:20:34):
won ten games like four times since two thousand, four times.
Like that's not that's not that good. So and when
when is the last time Michigan won a national championship?
Like we gotta go way back, bro, so, like this
(01:20:55):
is not a school that continuously wins national championships like
that their expectations aren't meeting reality. And yes, it's frustrating
for fans, but yes, it has been underwhelming based fund expectations.
But it's but it hasn't been bad, No, it hasn't
been bad. It's just right when the expectations aren't met.
(01:21:16):
It seems worse than it actually is. But it hasn't
been good. Even even with that being the case. There's
some competition over here with the Oregon Ducks. So they
were close against Auburn, right um, and that was back
in and they got the doors blown off of them
by Ohio State. How about Georgia over time against Alabama
(01:21:38):
Kirby Smart the walk off with two of LA. That's
as close as you can get to, Like, George has
been as close as you can get to and just
hasn't been able to get over the hump. Yeah, that's
rough to lose on a walk off. Goodness coming up
from the Geico studios. Next an NBA playoff possibility, you
gotta be aware of, you know, I just dawned on me, George.
(01:22:00):
This is the most perplexing thing you have said in
how can you and you revealed this earlier on the show,
how can you be pro voz al? Huh? How can
you go? Thumbs up on those horrible like the drones
sounding vovo z als. I made a joke about that
because of the World Cup format promosal in the NBA,
(01:22:23):
and I was like, get the like those things were amazing.
You have never seen anything like it. They made a
bunch of noise. It's fun the fan. The players probably
enjoy playing in it, dude, and the people were relentless,
is the thing that I loved about it. And I'm
(01:22:44):
a player who when I was with Oregon, the fans
used to blow those uh they have the quackers, which
they outlawed in college football, and I thought that they
were absolutely fantastic. I was like, yod, these quackers are bomb.
We need eat them. They are fantastic and I love them.
And then they banned them. But then they still allow
(01:23:05):
Mississippi Stiti the cow bell. You know, I was just thinking,
how can that be? That makes that's not consistent at all. Nope,
not at all. But it's it's like it's good for
college football, is good for competition. I don't mind it
at all. You probably want vood whose alis at Oregon.
I would I would take it. Would take you unbelievable, outrageous. Okay,
(01:23:27):
how about this, George, how this is a possibility? Pretty interesting?
So the NBA they're gonna vote on Thursday about there
their playoff format, their planned to return to play and
so it's expected that Adam Silver is gonna recommend twenty
or twenty two teams that are invited to Orlando. Those
(01:23:48):
other eight to ten teams win more games next season.
You're not invited. Your invitation got lost in the mail.
This is a possibility. If it's twenty two teams, George,
they might be taking teams that are within six games
of the eight seed in both the East and the West.
(01:24:08):
If they did that, it would mean five Western Conference
teams and only one Eastern Conference team. So if they
took the teams that are within six games of the
eight seed, it would be the Blazers, the Kings, the
New Orleans Zions as I'm calling them. They're not the Pelicans,
They're the Zions, the Spurs, and also the Suns. And
(01:24:31):
on the East side you would have the Orlando Magic,
the Charlotte Hornets. They would get left at home. What
do you think about that? If it's twenty two, do
you like them taking those six extra teams. I'm perfectly
fine with that because I'm perfectly fine with the best
sixteen teams being in the playoff, not the sixteen, Not
the eight best Eastern Conference, eight best Western Conference. I
(01:24:52):
want the sixteen, best teams period. I don't care how
you put it together, just make it happen. I want
to know if they're gonna go with a play in
tournament or they're gonna just say, hey, everybody plays eight games,
and whoever gets the eight seed or the seventh seed
or whatever, you're in the playoffs. What's your hunch. What
(01:25:13):
do you think they're gonna do. I think that they
they're probably gonna play a certain number of games and
just say, whoever has the best record after these games
you get to go, period, Like forget the rest of
the season, like you're gonna play in and if you
get in, you get in, and then the team with
(01:25:33):
the best we'll go to the seven seed, and then
the next team we'll go to the eight seed. Net's
it now. I want to know if I have I've
converted your argument here, George, because your pro one through
sixteen this season, meaning regardless of Eastern Conference Western Conference,
we just see them one through six team, so it
could be an East team versus a West team in
(01:25:54):
the first round. I love it for this season, but
have I converted you that it should just be this season?
This season alone? When we get back to normal times
to travel the rivalries being different. Have I converted you
to just one through sixteen this year and this year alone? No? No,
I haven't, not at all. I am in on it.
(01:26:16):
And so so here's the thing that I am in on.
I'm in on doing it for this year and then
letting it right and then seeing if it's a great idea,
then we'll keep it for next year. If not, then
we throw it in the trash. Yeah. Yeah, I'm Brian. No,
he's George rice To. We're coming to you live from
the Geico Fox Sports Radio studios fifteen minutes. Good save
(01:26:38):
you fift cent or more on car insurance. Visit Geico
dot com for a free rate quote. Okay, something else
caught my eye here, George. Have you seen this? It's
the highest paid athletes in It's a list. It's put
together by Forbes. So the top ten pretty interesting. You
tell me, if something stands out to you, you raise
your hand. Are you just buzz in something stands out
(01:27:01):
to you? George? Okay, we started off with Roger Federer
number one, earned just over a hundred and six million
dollars in It's the first time a tennis player was
number one on this list. He's earned the most out
that already is jumping off. But he did just sign
a new UM. He did go with a new shoe company,
(01:27:24):
and that was a you know, that was the deal
there is that he got a chance to make a
ton more money so he took it, which which makes sense.
I'd love to know the pay out for each sponsor,
you know, for anybody on this top ten list, just
out of curiosity. He's been with the watch company for
a while too, hasn't he. Roger Feder Yeah, I mean tennis,
(01:27:45):
tennis and watches they go together. I mean you you
you've had uh Tiger Woods, be with Tag here, you've
had UM, you know, like Rolex is one of the sponsors,
particularly for the UM for Wimbledon, Like they're like the
title sponsor for Wimbledon. And yeah, so of course, like
(01:28:08):
tennis watches. I've always wondered though, why tennis players do
wear watches. It seems kind of you know, kinda like
like playing a sport. It doesn't seem like you want
to wear it, but whatever, Yeah, that is I never
thought about it like that. It's strange that it goes
hand in hand with tennis players for some reason. Okay,
more on this list highest paid athletes in number two, Ronaldo,
(01:28:31):
We get the soccer guys, Messy, those guys are making
over a hundred million just this year alone, neymar right
around ninety million. Then we get the basketball players. See
here's the here's the thing that's interesting about the this
list is when you look at the soccer players, right, so, um,
(01:28:51):
you you had Roger Federer who made a hundred million
dollars in endorsements, six million dollars in winnings in salary.
Christiano Ronald though sixty million dollars in salary. Messy, seventy
two million dollars in salary, and they are seventy million
dollars in salary like their soccer salaries are off the chain. Bro. Yeah,
(01:29:15):
I just think of those transfer fees with some of
those big name players involved. Okay, we get to number
five on the list, Lebron he's right around eighty eight million,
followed by Steph Curry, Kevin Durant number eight on the list,
Tiger Woods number nine on the list, shocking, Kirk Cousins
(01:29:37):
number nine, followed by Carson Wentz at number ten. Yeah,
they both got new contracts, so I guess. Yeah, So
that makes huge signing bonuses. I mean, a Aaron Rodgers
made almost eighty million dollars the previous year, but then
you got Tyson Fury nice fifty seven million dollars what like.
(01:30:01):
It's a it's a very interesting list. It is I
find that I'd like listen man, to your point, George,
it depends on how the money falls. There are other
quarterbacks that actually make more money than Kirk Cousins, but
just based on how it's divided up over the length
of the contract and then any endorsement deals on top
of that. But man, dude, Kirk Cousins the top NFL
(01:30:24):
guy on this list, there's something wrong with that picture.
It's gonna be changing quickly with Patrick Mahomes getting a
mega deal. Oh yeah, dude. That's why if I were
Patrick Mahomes, there's not a snowballs chance in hell that
I would. I wouldn't even take forty million dollars a
season right now if I were Patrick my Homes unless
my salary was tied to the salary cap. That's the
(01:30:47):
only way that I'm taking a deal at this point
in time, because the TV money is gonna be up
so big that he's gonna be eligible for I mean,
just like they thought it was a mega deal, this
is gonna be like a roof shattering deal, which he deserves.
How about this, I gotta ask you, because the Chiefs
are already starting to negotiate with Patrick Mahomes, and it
(01:31:10):
doesn't mean they're going to sign a deal on Tuesday.
This could be a twelve fifteen month process. He's just
he's got a couple more years left on his rookie deal. So,
like with what you just explained, the TV money that's
gonna kick in a couple of years from now, how
much is too much for Patrick Mahomes? Like there's gotta
(01:31:31):
be a number where you say, okay, fifty five million
per year too much? Like where's the number where you
can realistically say, although he's awesome, it's too much to
sign this guy every single year. We're not gonna have
enough around him to win. Uh. It depends on how
much the salary cap is. I mean, like, if he's
taken up the salary cap, then yeah, that's too much.
(01:31:54):
But if he's taken up you know, thirty percent of it,
then you know, then that's where you gotta be a
good coach and make it happen. I would love to
know what the common thought would be about Patrick Mahomes
if he didn't turn it around in the fourth quarter
of the Super Bowl. But he did, right, But in
(01:32:19):
terms of his contract extension, in terms of how he's
thought about, he's the consensus best quarterback in the NFL.
But he was having a rough game right before that
completion of Tyreek kill the bomb on like third and
fifteen whatever it was Joe Buck was talking about. Man,
I just missed a wide open Tyreek Hill. He's been
(01:32:40):
off like two interceptions. Yeah, like that. Yeah. But how
many times, though, have we seen the greatest players of
all time? I mean, look at the Patriots three comeback Brady.
Brady wouldn't lighten it up before that, but when it
mattered the most, what did he do? He came what
(01:33:02):
Tom Brady does that That's exactly what he did. And
he and Matt Ryan and the Falcons did what the
Falcons do. Really, you're gonna use this opportunity to throw
Matt Ryan under the bus. I think it's what Kyle Shanahan.
Kyle Shanahan did what Kyle Shanahan does, which is wet
himself as a play caller in a big what Yeah,
(01:33:24):
run the ball. Julio Jones made an all world catch
on the sideline. Run the ball, kick a field goal,
go up by eleven? What are you doing? Blame Matt
Ryan for taking a sack. There's dual blame. Absolutely, there's
dual blame. But I mean, goodness, you just have to
run the ball. Hand it off Davante Freeman. Get what
you can get. All right, there we go, field goal
(01:33:45):
team game over. Not that difficult, George. Sometimes smart guys
outthink themselves. I would agree with that. I would agree
with that. Okay. Coming up next from the Geico Studios,
we got to revisit one of our arguments from earlier.
Gotta tweet that UH has stood out quite a bit.
Oh and also we're talking about college football. I have
(01:34:06):
a random question for George Rice Stir and Uh. I'm
sure that you're welcome to participate as well. I'm curious
what other people think as well. You can hit us
up on Twitter at the No Show at George Rice
Stir keep it locked right here on Fox Sports Radio.
I'm Brian No, He's George Rice Stir. Here on Fox
Sports Radio. We're coming to you from the Geico studios.
(01:34:27):
Get your free credit scorecard today, even if you're not
a discovered customer. It includes your Fico credit score, and
checking your scorecard won't hurt your credit. Learn more at
discover dot com. Slash credit scorecard limitations apply it as
a party now, compliments of one Don Brown. You know
when raining blood gets cranked up here? George, come on,
(01:34:48):
you tell me you wouldn't get down in a mosh
pit throw a couple of elbows when the pandemics over
with you kidding me? George, I'm gonna sucker you into
a bet where you gotta go see a Slayer show
with me. There's not a chance in hell that I
would lose a bet for I'm willing to a bet you.
(01:35:09):
You try to say sometimes, and I'm the most conservative
man on earth. However, I don't make bets that I'm
not gonna win. So see, that's what you're conservative, because
I bet on things that I know that I that
I have competency in or have some sort of control over.
Because if we are if we are playing a game
(01:35:31):
of competition, whether like me smashing you in horse or
the three point competition something like that. Yeah, if we
if if we're playing in a game, then I have
control over the outcome, right, Therefore, I can be confident
in you know, in my abilities. I know what I
can do and what I what my limitations are. So
(01:35:55):
with that being being said, that's why I say that
I would not lose a bet to you. So you're
telling me based on this, like if I'm to replay
some vintage George Rice Stir calling his shot audio, you're
telling me you sounded very confident here you would not
put a Slayer concert on the line when it came
to you saying this about Jamis Winston. Jamis Winston in
(01:36:20):
twenty uh huh, we'll throw for over thirty touchdowns and
under twenty interceptions. Book book it. Okay, I'm supposed to
believe there isn't the ellipses, the little dot dot dot,
and I'm putting a Slayer concert on the line. If
I'm wrong, though, I'm going to see. I'm supposed to believe.
You're not gonna say say it like that again? Please
(01:36:45):
layer like I gotta. I got a story for you, George.
Now here's the thing. Will you give you a little
glimpse into the life of Slayer here? Okay, So I
went to a Slayer show years and years ago, and uh,
I had to go to the banjos. Right. So I'm
at the urinal and the rule is look straight ahead.
We all know this. And there's this dude he's hammered,
and I'm you know, we're at the urinals, and he
(01:37:07):
just goes, he kind of looks over at me and
he goes, he's hammered. Slayer does that, and there's one
appropriate response. I paused for a dramatic effect for a
little bit and then I said Slayer like, and we
were buddies from that point on. That's how you get down. Oh,
(01:37:27):
no actual conversation words needed, could you guys? You guys
bonded on on the special level. That's exactly right, George.
You'll underestimate the fun you would have at a Slayer show.
There's no chance that I would have fun at a
Slayer show. I'm a music connoisseur, and there's no chance
because metal music is trash and then and and it
(01:37:50):
is inevitable. It is inevitable that I would get in
a fight if I went to a Slayer concert, because
metal music brings out that habitual line. Stepper Um disregard
for people's personal space that metal music invites. Okay, what
(01:38:10):
if we were what we were, if we were like uh,
special guests or something right like we're off to the
side where we're on stage, we're away from the mayhem.
How about then, how about if I could secure that
for you, George? Um, if I if I were going
there to go like meat sle then maybe, but like
to enjoy the whole like three hour show, or to
(01:38:32):
like have them to like sit in the crowd or
on the stage and have them be be late. Dude,
I'd be hot as fish grease. Bro. Yeah, yeah, I
can understand that. I get it. Okay, So we got
to revisit this tweet here. Stephen checked in and said,
Matt Ryan and Julio Jones best quarterback wide receiver duo
(01:38:53):
of this generation. We both disagreed we were brothers in
arms for at least that we would both put Manning
Harrison above it. We put Big Ben in a b
above it, not by leaps and bounds. But how about
that you gotta put them in the top five, right.
I know you sell Matt Ryan short, George Rister, but
you can't sell Mattie Ice that short. They gotta be
a top five duo in this day and age. Oh no, dude,
(01:39:15):
you missed one, even though the quarterback has not been Wait,
hold up, what what year are we going from? What
we'll say, like from two thousand on? From? Oh lord? Okay,
I got Dante Colepepper and Randy Moss. They had how
many long? How many years? Two four? Okay, so it's
(01:39:36):
a short span, but they were yes, dynamic. You got
Tony Romo and Tarrella Ones. That was a short ye,
get him out? Okay. How about Philip Rivers and Keenan
Allen good? Good, solid strong? How about oh my lord, uh,
(01:39:59):
you had Kurt Warner and Larry Fitzgerald together for for
five seasons. Short span, just too too short. It'd be
like putting Drew Brees and Michael Thomas, who have been
fantastic together. Okay, Like I got the one for you,
even though this quarterback has not been like what you
would call a like this is more on the wide
(01:40:22):
receiver then the quarterback. Okay, this duo Calvin Johnson and
Matthew Stafford. Okay, yeah, they put up huge numbers. Yeah,
it's it's more like Calvin Johnson did the care of
that duo, but um, who actually got Yeah, and of
course you got Matt Ryan Julio. Oh oh, an underrated
(01:40:46):
white guy to white guy duo. Okay, alright, alright, who
is it? The the rare white guy to white guy duo?
You can you even think of who it is? Well,
I mean elite, Well, there a couple. There's there's Kirk
Cousins to uh Adam Feeling, but they haven't been together
a year. There was Tom Brady to Julian Edelman. That's no,
(01:41:10):
that's not an elite duo. It's been really good in
the playoffs, but that's about it. Peyton Manning to Wes Welker,
even though they didn't have enough years together. Who is it?
I've done? Who is Who's w Rogers? Jordy Nelson? Pretty good?
Very pretty damn good, dude. That was a phenomenal. I mean,
(01:41:31):
like people wanted to hate on the white wide receiver,
but you could not hate on Jordy Nelson. Jordy Nelson
had some amazing years. The end came quick, but yeah,
he had to the bottom out of that thing, yeah,
real quick. And you got who else is on this list?
I'd probably say, even though Brady to Gronk. Why wide
(01:41:56):
receiver tighty? I mean quarterback tight end? But Peyton Manning,
Harris Harrison is easily number one. I'd have to put
them number one. Yes, I mean that's you know, hall
of famer to hall of famer right there. So yeah,
I'd go number one. Now, you and your hatred, I
don't know if you have bang on Matt Ryan more
than Tom Brady. I don't know which is which. But
(01:42:17):
where do you have Matt Ryan Julio Jones, Because they
gotta be on the shortlist. They've put up numbers in
the top they're in the top four five. Okay, good,
you haven't gone completely crazy on me with your Matt
Ryan shenanigans over here. By the way, for anybody who
says he's one good year with the m v P,
(01:42:39):
do me a favor. Look at his twelve season. They
went thirteen and three, they were on the doorstep of
a Super Bowl berth. He had thirty two touchdowns, fourteen picks.
Passer rating that year was right at ninety nine. That's
a heck of a year. You wouldn't sign up for
that going into that. That's a year. Listen, it is
(01:43:03):
tough when you have a guy they can't get your home,
you like, it's tough. It's tough to sign up for
a guy that can't get your home. Wow, unbelievable. We
got a guy that could get us home. His name
is Steve de Seger. That's right, America, you said it incorrectly.
Steve Segar is kind of like Slayer. Maybe I should
(01:43:29):
say it like that from now on. I like that,
Steve the Segar. What do you think you just take
it away from there, Steve. Okay, but you realize nobody,
and I mean nobody will get the context from five
minutes from now on, much less Slayer fans. Fans. Can
they just populate this show? Sure, yeah, people will get it. Yeah.
(01:43:53):
I stand corrected once again. The Fox key to Fox
TV tomorrow in the regular three pm Eastern times lot.
Another Super Bowl re air. It's gonna be Patriots Eagles
from two thousand five. By the way, the NFL's Hall
of Fame game to open the exhibition season is scheduled
for August six. That's just over a couple of months away.
The regular season opener would be September. Baseball's Hall of
(01:44:14):
Fame already canceled its Big Weekend, which was going to
be in late July. That's pushed back to July one instead.
The NFL is of course, looked at many scheduling contingency
plans because of the coronavirus. It is planning to start
the season on times. It's sounding like we'll have camps,
et cetera. Among the free agents still out there, quarterback
Cam Newton and pass rushers Jadeveon Clowney and Everson Griffin,
(01:44:35):
also guard Larry Warford and others. Packers guard Lane Taylor
reworked the final season of his contract to free up
cap space, and the Browns will reopen their facility in
downtown Offices on Monday to a select number of employees.
The NFL team that reportedly has the most cap space
this offseason is still the Cleveland Browns. As for the
Florida Gators, point guard Andrew Nemhard removed his name from
(01:44:57):
the NBA draft and he will tram for he'll have
two years of eligibility remaining. He had hired an n
c double A certified agents so these days he can
retain his college eligibility. He did so after his freshman
year as well, and returned to Florida. Now he's not
going in the draft and he's not going back to Florida.
NASCAR's Cup races on FS one tomorrow three thirty pm
(01:45:18):
Eastern Time at Bristol. FS one will also have the
Exfinity Series event on Monday night. Kurt Bush and Kyle
Bush will be in the broadcast booth Monday at seven
pm Eastern Time from the Charlotte Studios. NASCAR, by the way,
racing only at southern tracks for at least another month
to be closer to the Charlotte headquarters. The Formula One
racing season will begin in Austria with two events in
(01:45:39):
July and no fans there of course, after government approval
today and with FS one. Germany soccer season continues tomorrow
morning with another doubleheader starting at nine thirty am Eastern time.
FS one it's five highest rated games ever having the
German contract have been the last five games they've shown
these past couple of week. Kids, and they're getting instead
(01:46:01):
of I don't know what they're getting before. I'm guessing
less than a hundred thousand, it's like three hundred thousand viewers. Now.
Will there be a US Open tennis tournament in New
York in There are several scenarios of course, being considered
for that, but one official says all of this is fluid.
We haven't made any decisions at all. But among the
options is far as ball boys at the tennis tournaments
(01:46:22):
and the various matches, to have them not be youths,
that only adults would be the ball persons. And for officiating,
kind of like how the NBA wants to cut down
on the travel parties and have a smaller amount of
personnel going to Orlando. If that's what they do. Matches
at the US Open could use fewer line judges than
usual and more reliance on the line calling technology, although
(01:46:44):
one official told AP that's a hard one because obviously
we do want to ensure that we have the highest
level of integrity for the matches. And finally, quote a
player coming here with an entourage of five, six, seven,
eight is not something that's in the plan. So one
possibility of tournaments could provide the physios and the masseusas
so the players don't bring their own. But remember the
(01:47:05):
NBA has said that if they're gonna have one campus site,
then maybe teams could share medical and security personnel. There
was that New York Times article about you're not going
to have the same amount of travel people you do
on a normal NBA road trip when you go to Orlando.
Still a vote on the NBA's future not expected till Thursday.
Back to you, by the way, Steve, it doesn't make
sense to me. What was it the US Open where
(01:47:27):
they said they're going to have to rely on the
line technology. The replay they have in tennis is the
most superior form of replay we have. It's sensational, it's amazing.
Like they're like, ooh, we don't have these human beings
to determine if the ball was in or not. Like,
you're good to go with that technology. The replay is amazing.
That's right. If they want to quote ensure the highest
(01:47:49):
level of integrity, I think that technology has proven itself
over the years. We're good to go. We're good on
humans as far as that goes. All right, We're coming
to you alive from the Geico Fox Sports radio studios.
It's easy to say or more on car insurance with Geico.
Go to Geico dot com or call eight hundred nine
seven Auto. The only hard part figuring out which way
is easier. You know, I've picture you throwing your remote
(01:48:11):
control when you're watching tennis, George, when they go to
replay and you're like, give me the human element this
technology here with verifying the ball was out. I'd rather
than it was called in and we got the wrong call.
Is that how you get down with tennis? Mr? Human
human error? Huh, absolutely not. I'd rather enjoy like when
(01:48:34):
when the fans stars clapping and they're like, what's that right?
That's great, and you get a chance to see whether
the ball was in er out. I mean, and it
is sometimes a like a like a hair on the
ball and it's like and and you see like, oh,
Agen it is and they do the little panning shot
(01:48:56):
to it. Also, you know what I mean, like the camera,
Oh it's perfect. Okay, I got questions, George. Okay, I've
got two questions for you. All Right, we were talking
some college football, sort of an age old question, but
I'm really curious what you think about it because we
gave specific examples. We talked about Jim Harbaugh. He's been
(01:49:17):
a disappointment in his five years at Michigan. He said,
there as close to winning a championship as you can be.
He's out of his mind. They haven't been close, but
it led us to talk about what was the most
What was the closest that a team was actually to
a championship without winning one. You threw out Oregon, they
were close against Auburn obviously, Georgia the walk off loss
(01:49:38):
against Alabama. So let me ask you this, which way
is the worst way to lose? Would it be Georgia
losing an overtime on a walk off touchdown like the
heartbreaking or was it Notre Dame getting pummeled by take
your pick, either Clemson in the College Football playoff or
(01:50:00):
by Alabama and the BCS National Championship game. Which way
would you rather lose if you were to lose, Oh,
I'd rather get pummeled, you would, oh yeah, because there's
nothing worse than too like to relive for the rest
of your life. Like, oh, man, if we had to
caught that one ball, if we had to make that
(01:50:21):
one tackle, if if if I would have made that
one read correct, Like, that's the worst because you can
torment your yourself that way. It's better to just be like, listen,
we got we got whooped on, like they opened up
a can of whoop on us. And it just you know,
it just was what it was. I mean, because then
you can't say that like we were almost there, like
(01:50:45):
we should have won that game. No, the better team
just smoked us, and we weren't ready, we weren't prepared.
We just or they were just better. That's much better
than the than the alternative, because the alternative is I mean,
like I still think about a high school game that
we lost against Crenshaw High School in the semifinals my
(01:51:08):
senior year. I had hit a three pointer. Uh and
I uh, yeah, I had hit a three point. I
broke my hand on the play. Actually, you broke your
hand on a three pointer? Yeah, because I got fouled
and I kind of fell down and I broke my hand.
And but this is a four point play. No, no, no,
they didn't call a foul. And this is when men
(01:51:31):
were men, yes, eight eighties basketball in eighties basketball, in
the nineties. Um and I just yeah, so I so
I hit a three and then uh, we get the
ball back. We're down one point, and there's a teammate
(01:51:51):
and and the reason why I won't call his name
is because I found out after he ended up having
to go to therapy behind this. Uh so he yes, dude,
it was. It was traumatic. So this dude was six six,
he had hops, he could dunk, very athletic. He ended
up playing basketball in college all of all of that.
(01:52:13):
And he, uh, he's driving down at the end of
the game and I ran underneath the basket and he
goes up to go dunk, dunk the basketball. It's gonna
be like a game winning dunk. Like he's gonna dunk
it and then the game is gonna be over, like
it's gonna be like dunk and the worst thing that
(01:52:35):
you can do. I I know you don't know anything
about this note because you probably haven't dunk too much,
but h is you You can turn a a lay
up into a dunk, but you can't turn a dunk
into a layup. It just doesn't go go over very well.
Jordan Jordan was spectacular move by Michael Jordan's. This this
(01:52:55):
is Michael Jordan's. We're talking about a guy on my team. Okay,
shall remain nameless. And he decided to turn and so
he had a couple of options. Dunked the basketball or
passed the ball to me underneath the rim. Just a
quick pass and I would have thrown it up just
for an easy, untouched layup right, and he chose to
(01:53:20):
to dunk it and then turned it into a layup
and it looked like Patrick ewing against the Indiana. Yes,
the finger roll went off the back of the rim
and we lost. Dude. It was heartbreaking and we still
talk about that to this day. And it was heartbreaking
(01:53:40):
for him. I mean he went through a lot behind it.
So yes, that's the worst way to lose. Hey, man,
I hear you. I'm going the other way, okay, because
here's the deal. If it's between Georgia, how they lost
to Alabama, and that's gut wrenching, there's no doubt about that.
But you compared to Notre Dame just getting whooped on.
All you heard was like Notre Dame didn't belong there,
They got embarrassed, they got dump truck. Do you think
(01:54:02):
about the recruiting impact. If you're right there in the
big you're almost over the top and not quite, that's
better for recruiting. And then also, I mean just compare
it to fighting. If you've gotten into a fight, if
you lose by a little bit, there's respect there. If
you just get whooped, it's waxed. There's no respect. You're
gonna get clowned all the times. I'd rather be in
(01:54:24):
the fight, even if it's a gut wrenching defeat. And
as far as therapy goes, I had to go to
therapy for Notre Dame getting whooped up on that way,
So yes, I would actually rather lose the way Georgia did.
No way, dude, in in a fight, I agree with you.
But in a game, no, no, no, no no, could
(01:54:46):
you actually go to therapy for that? I was just
kidding around, but could you go and be like, oh gosh,
I mean Notre Dame. Did you see the way they
lost the Clemson? I mean, really, I gotta walk through this.
I gotta work some things out, doc, like with to
look at you, be like get out of here, or
what they did? Probably take your money and be like,
all right, tell me about your life story. I think
they probably would they take your money when, of course,
(01:55:08):
because people need therapy and they need to, you know,
emote about whatever is bothering them. So had to have
been a fan that's done that along the way, of course, dude,
I mean, and it didn't even take a degenerate gambler
like it's just because, Okay, because if you think that
people in the Auburn Alabama rivalry will will kill trees
(01:55:32):
like you, you must know that things will get completely
out of out of hand. That's true. That's a good
way to look at it, all right, Coming up next
to Geico Studios, I've got another question for you, George.
We had to get to this and then also, it
might be the biggest overreaction in the entire sports world
right now. I'll tell you what that is. I'm probably though,
(01:55:53):
he's George rice Ster. This is Fox Sports Radio. I'm
probably no, he's George rice Ster. You're on Fox Sports Radio.
We're coming to you from the Geico Studios. Get your
free credit scorecard today today, even if you're not a
discovered customer. It includes your Fico credit score, and checking
your scorecard won't hurt your credit. Learn more at discover
(01:56:14):
dot com. Slash credit scorecard limitations apply. I think this
is the biggest overreaction in the sports world right now, George,
and I hear this a lot. I hear it from
NBA insiders, NBA reporters. It's like there's a growing feeling
they're trying to shoehorn Zion Williamson into the playoffs. Oh lord, dude,
(01:56:35):
this is silliness. It's over the top. It's completely over
the top. He'll just have a chance to get into
the playoffs. What do you think the NBA has delusions
of grandeur where the come on, man, they're gonna be
in there and knock off the Lakers. You know, come on, man,
let's slow down. I hear that all the time. There
(01:56:57):
there are always these conspiracy theory he's floating around about sports,
and some of them have teeth and some of them
You're just like, wow, there's really not a lot to
talk about right now. And it's because of the NBA
ghost of twenty two teams. If the NBA went to
eighteen teams, they would have Zion, so they don't need
(01:57:18):
to go to twenty two to get Zion into playoffs,
right yeah, I would be like Devin Booker. They're trying
to shoehorn Devin Booker into the playoffs with the Sun's
being in the mix with the twenty two team model, right, Like,
it's just crazy what we're hearing about Zion. They'd love
for him to be there, but goodness, the talk. Yeah,
(01:57:41):
they think that he's gonna make it to the conference
finals or something like, oh they got Zion in there,
It's time crazy, hey, top of the hour, Keep it
locked right here, Fox Sports Radio, Arnie spanierd Aarin Torres
have plenty of great stuff, so keep it locked right
here for them. I've got a question for you, don
Um George Rice to Um. So, I'm watching UFC stuff
(01:58:04):
right now. I saw a match earlier, saw a fight earlier,
and the guy he was getting kicked in the leg
like crazy. These leg kicks were just literally buckling him
down to the mat. So my question is this, which
is the most emasculating way to lose a UFC fight?
I find this interesting, just like hurting your mail pride? Right,
(01:58:28):
what would it be? Would it be kicked in the leg? Right?
Would it be ground and pound someone's just towering over you,
just pummeling you. Would it be tapping out due to
some sort of submission? Hold? What would hurt your mail
pride the most? I'm trying to think what would be
at the top of my list. Because there are a
(01:58:50):
couple of great candidates, A couple of great I would
have to go with, Gosh, the leg kicks. I would
have to say, even though they do major damage. The
guy that was fighting earlier tonight, he just got bruises
up and down his legs. I know it's nothing to
it's nothing that's fun to deal with, man, But to
just be buckled by a leg kick, I would hurt
(01:59:12):
my pride. I put that at the top of the list.
What no, absolutely not, dude, the whole show for the
patent at George what right? Okay, So what do you
have at the top of the list? Is to go
is to go out off of a body punch? Is
like when when when you fall out, just when you
(01:59:34):
just get hit with just a regular looking body punch,
like Oscar de la Hoya when uh, I forget who
was fighting and he might have been fighting, um oh lord,
I forget and he got knocked out with a body punch,
and like it's a delayed reaction to it's always it's
never immediate. And then they just fall on the ground
(01:59:55):
they can't get up. That is the most humbling thing.
The second most humbling is to get knocked out by
being kicked in the head, Like that's just that's just embarrassing, dude,
Just get kicked in the nogging Nah, man, you got
that kicked in the head. That high. That's high for
kicked in the head, Yes, dude, because it's like the
(02:00:17):
person didn't punch you in the face, like they didn't
have enough respect for you to punch you in the
face that they kicked you worse than a tap out,
that would in trouble you more like you had to
tap out because that's just a mistake. That could just
be a mistake where like you got in a bad position.
(02:00:38):
Like if you look at the fights at last week,
you had a guy who um who he was, he
was winning the fight and then he got a little
too aggressive and up at the bottom uh in a
in a near chokehold, face face down on the ground
and lost. So yes, that is you know, like, yeah,
(02:01:00):
that's pretty Like getting tapped out is that bad because
you just made a mistake. I think that's still bad.
But getting knocked out, getting kicked in the head, or
or going down off a body punch, because that because
that can't make you feel real tough. Okay, I'm Brian though,
he's George Rice stir here on Fox Sports Radio. I
have to tell you about a conversation I just had
(02:01:22):
with our crew. I just threw out a question. I
talked to these guys all the time, right in between
our segments and all of that, and I just, for
whatever reason, that's about a question to Don Brown. I
was like, well, I don't talk to him every single segment, right,
but uh yeah, But I tossed out a question that
Don Brown, and I'm like, done, what genre of music
(02:01:44):
ranks at the bottom? Like, if you were to get
into a a friend's car and they're blasting something, what
is the genre where you're like, oh, gosh, I just
I can't really do this. And he thought for a
little bit and it goes, honestly, probably metal. I would no, done, no,
And then I asked le Robot to lap the four
(02:02:06):
with the same question. He thought about it for a
while and he was like, you know, metal's gotta be
towards the bottom two. And I'm like, why would I
ask these questions? I didn't know we had a whole
crew full of non metal fans. Unbelievable. It's racket, bro.
And also, it disturbs your peace, Like people want peace
in life, and if your music is disturbing that, then
(02:02:29):
it's not the thing that you should be listening to.
If it causes people to violate personal space, hit you,
kick you, all of that stuff. It's not good. It's poison. Unbelievable.
I am on an island on this one. I what
I hate the most. Hippie are dead fish. I want
to kick someone in the head when I hear that
(02:02:50):
trash