FOX Sports Saturday with Arnie Spanier & Aaron Torres: 07/11/2020

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(00:21):
Marny Spaniard on a busy Saturday night. How you doing tonight, Torres? Well,
Ernie Spanier, I'm doing. First of all, it's great to
be back, man. Thank god Chris Plank was able to
cover for me last week. And week yeah, I was,
and Chris Plank carried the show. Chris Blank carried the show.
So that's one. And tee me the day off. That's OK.

(00:44):
You did not give me the day off, nor to
sagor the day off. Thankfully Chris plankton and take the
day off. Otherwise they might have you to day off.
I give the Saga the day off. I give everybody
the day off. I get no credit whatsoever, like I'm
a bad guy or something. You know, well, you are
a bad guy. But I'm also excited because I just
told the guys for the first time ever, get me
that MLS game on. Baby, We got sports back, little

(01:07):
by little. I know there was some negative stuff in
the college sports realm this week, but we got MLS
on our TV, UFC on our TV, NBA coming back,
Baseball coming back. So I'm trying to be glass is
half full right now? An span here, I have it
on my TV on Let's go. Who's your team? I
remember when you picked up the Arizona hot Shots in

(01:29):
the a f L for about a week and a
half till that league folded. Who's your Who's your soccer team?
I'm big Cosmos fans, So yeah, Cosmo, that league fifty
years ago. That's not a real league. What are you?
What are you talking about around anymore? You mean I
can't pick them this? I think the Red Bulls. The
Red Bulls are I don't know. I just enjoy having

(01:50):
on some competition right now. It's like Cincinnati and Columbus.
I got on so um that shows you how does
provided I'm putting on soccer with two teams. I don't
even know that their city has had soccer teams, you know?
Uh yeah no that I I can't say that I was,
or is or will be the biggest MLS fan. But
if they're putting it on my TV. Like you said,
it's nice to have something live, all right, We we

(02:11):
do have a lot to get to. Is a busy
show coming up in about though, about twenty minutes from now,
Chris Plank, Uh, my Sunday partner. We got a lot
of college football to get to. Uh, no doubt about that.
A matter of fact, that's where we start, where the
Pact twelve and the Big ten errand conference only games.
And you know, I'm letting this kind of sink on it,

(02:32):
and I'm saying to myself, are they making the wrong
decision here? Are they making the decision too early? Is
it no big deal? Because there's a lot of b
S games anyway? Um, if you take a look at that,
your first thoughts when you heard Pact twelve, Big Ten
they're gonna go conference only. So I will say first thought,
which was the question that you just asked, was disappointment

(02:53):
only from this perspective, is we just it just feels
like we have not gotten a positive piece of news
in forever, and I mean every piece of news. Is
this guy tested positive, this guy after testing positive is
finally negative. And it was just like it just felt
like another kick in the gut. Um. But then you know,

(03:15):
when you peel back the layers, Uh, it might not
If we get a product on the field, it might
not be the worst thing. So you asked me. My
first initial thought it was disappointment. But as I peel
back the layers, I'm I'm optimistic that this is the
right step and it ensures us that we do get
games on the field. Too early or just about the
right time. I'm still waiting to see what the A SEC,

(03:37):
Big twelve and SEC is gonna do. I'll get to
that in a minute, but first, um, too earlier of
a decision or this is something they have to be making,
you know. I gotta tell you, I was disappointed when
I heard conference only was that. I'm thinking, right, the
house of cards is gonna come crumbling down. Yeah, you
can't just take a few off, because you know what
happens when you do something like that. And then I'm thinking,

(03:57):
oh my goodness, I'm thinking, oh, the Ohio State Oregon game,
and um, so many great games I'm gonna miss. But
there wasn't a lot of great games. So UM, I
guess I'm okay. But we really don't have much of
a choice. I would have liked them to wait a
little bit. But I mean, if this is about as
far as they can wait, then then I guess we
gotta do it. Not that big of a deal considering um,

(04:20):
not a lot of great matchups out of the fifth
plus games I'm supposed to be. It's not that big
of a deal if we actually get football on the field.
If this is a decision to hopefully push back what
would be a negative inevitable of not playing games, then
it doesn't really matter. But if the argument is, and
this is the Big Ten's argument, it's less travel. We

(04:41):
have the same testing protocol in our league across the league,
so we're not playing some school that isn't testing their guys.
If that's the argument, that it's a safer way to
get a product on the field, it's not a big deal.
But then again, you could counter it by saying, is
this just the Big ten de laying what they believe
to be the inevitable, which is not having a season.

(05:01):
I don't believe that. I don't believe that. I'll tell
you you're asking me question. Listen, I got a lot
to say, aren't you had Chris Plank for seven hours
last week. Okay, I it's my time now, I'm the
captain of this ship. But but yeah, enough, so um,
let me ask us that a CEC, Big twelve SEC
shouldn't all five Power uh the five the Power five

(05:23):
conferences be on the same page. Yeah, I guess My
point is you can't have two of them say conference
only and the other three say we're having a full
can you or maybe I'm wrong on that. I thought
everybody should be on the same page just when if
it comes for like a national championship and who who
goes to the playoffs or or the hell with that? Well,
we'll just make it up as we're all along, I guess,
which is what we're doing anyway. So two quick thoughts

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on that. The first is that we had been hearing
behind the scenes that, oh, it's solidarity between the Power
fives and this and that. And then when you listen
to the Oklahoma a D who will ask Chris Plank
about in a minute the SEC commission nor the a
c C Commissioner all saying that that the Big ten
decision caught them off guard, you realize that there's not

(06:07):
as much solidarity. Now I want to ask you a
question Arnie because you said, you know, kind of do
all the conferences have to go that way? And and
they probably will. But I was thinking, I'm well, that's
what I was gonna ask you. I mean, if you
think about it. Right, So Alabama now usc their biggest
game is off the schedule. Um, if they play eight
conference games plus those three cream puffs that they were

(06:29):
gonna play, isn't that advantage Alabama as opposed to Ohio State,
who is now gonna play ten league games only. Um? Well,
if you put any stock into too, the two cream
puffs that ill about my plays, I I don't know
if we're going to do that though. Um. And as
to all being on the same page here, and right
before the show, we saw that Oklahoma will ask Chris

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Pike about this also said they want to move their
game up against Missouri State a week. And we always thought, okay,
they'll just cancel that one, don't need to play that, um,
and they'll play conference only. But they're doing the opposite now.
If it was gonna be conference only, they wouldn't be
bothering to move that game up a week. They'll say themselves,
all right, let's get everything in. How do we do that.

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This is one way um moving again game up a week,
so we'll see if they're able to pull that off.
I'm starting to think that they're all not gonna be
on the same page. I guess that's what I'm saying. No,
they're not. And listen, I think what what we're seeing
is every conference is doing what they believe is best
for themselves. And I'll be honest, that was one of
those guys that when the Big ten announcement came, I said, well,

(07:31):
it's inevitable all five conferences are gonna go that way.
But I think the SEC, the a CEC is maybe
now looking at this as a competitive advantage of wain
a second, Now we're only gonna play eight conference games. Uh,
most of our big out of conference games are canceled
because they were against either a big big Big ten
or Pack twelve opponents. Is this a tactical advantage? And

(07:53):
it feels like the Big twelve at least for now,
feels the same way. But by the way, if you
don't have conference games, do add a game to your
conference schedule to make sure you get at least nine
games in What do you mean? So usually there's like
eight games in conference. Pack twelve had nine. Um, sure,
the Big Ten, the a c C, the SEC. All

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if they say no conference, no out of conference games,
you say, okay, well add another conference game. But that's
kind of what I'm saying though, is that the in
a normal year, the A c C and the SEC
traditionally play one less conference game than the other three leagues.
And it's always been a big advantage, and you and
I argue about it every year and all that kind

(08:36):
of stuff, And that's what I'm saying is the Big
ten is now gonna be at ten conference games. We
believe the PAC twelve will probably go to ten conference games.
So if you're the don't know if they're out of
conference game. I didn't assume. I just assumed they were
going to stay at nine. Errand well, maybe they stay
at nine. But still it's still an advantage for the
you know, everyone I think defaulted to every conference is

(08:58):
going to go to conference games only. But that the
point I'm trying to make, Arnie, isn't it an advantage
for the SEC and advantage for the a SEC to
stay with the schedule that they had set up because
they'll play a couple easier games that the Big Ten
and the Pack twelve won't well, any advantage of a
CEC would have might go out the window of Notre
Dame joins the conference room for this year, and I

(09:20):
think they're going to so forget about that, um to
the SEC has a much harder conference than all the
other conferences you just mentioned. So, um, there's no cream
puffs week the week actually never seen Vanderbilt play, have you? Well,
they're the Arizona but that could actually heard Alabama that
if they don't have the cream puffs in between the

(09:40):
tough games like as a bye week, all of a sudden,
that may kind of hurt them a little bit going
into this season. Then. So I think we're dancing around
the same thing though. Can we agree or do we agree?
Or are we're just talking it out loud because I
don't think any I know, no decision has been made
in the SEC, but I think you and I are
both on kind of on the same page that we

(10:01):
all kind of thought when the Big Ten made this announcement,
every other conference was gonna follow suit, so like within hour, yes,
And now I'm really starting to think, is this a
tactical advantage for the SEC to play their schedule as is,
and I think that it is. I can't even believe
in myself to ask us on July level we are
going to have a season? Right we? Right? Right? I think?

(10:24):
I mean, I think we will. At least you took
your while to answer me that, because you never stopped
talking right right right, just was like you were thinking
about it for crying out would now I was just
waiting for you stop saying right. You were saying right
quite a bit. So I'm all fired up. Man. You
you let me off for one week, I'm like that,
I'm like a caged animal. All those like all those
like Instagram posts that lebron Is is making about unleashed

(10:49):
the beast or whatever. That's basically me right now after
one week off. So what happens if we don't have
college football? You and I do the College Football show
on Saturday night? What she's see? That would out of
all the sports? Um, and of course I'd missed NFL,
but man, not to have college football, I I have
to hope that the NFL would move some of their
games to Saturday or something like that. You know. Yeah,

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And it's a great question as to if they would.
I mean I wish we had some, you know, an
NFL guy coming on, but no, I'm with you, man,
is is college football is just such a fabric of
the fall. And obviously, look, the NFL is the you know,
the biggest, you know monster in the room. But like
college football is a big part of what we do
in the fall, aren'ty? And as you and I talked

(11:31):
about all the time, it is the people think the
NBA is the second most popular sport in this country.
Go look at the ratings for the for major college football.
It's unbelievable, the passion, the excitement. I'm still optimistic games
get played. I think you can argue that the Big
Ten going conference only could be a good thing if
they believe that it makes it more likely they get
a product on the field. I still believe. And it's

(11:52):
July eleventh, and it's always subject to change, of course,
but I believe we're gonna get games on the field.
Do you have a hard core opinion on um. If
there's no kids in school, there should be no games.
If it's just online, there should be no games. If
it's a hybrid, then a mix of games. You know,
I don't know. I so you know, I've gone back
and forth on this. I again, if you can't have

(12:15):
the kids in school, then you can't have games. Um,
I don't know. Wouldn't make it safer for the kids
if there wasn't other students there. So it's really funny
because I was right after the Big ten announcement was made.
I called somebody that works in college sports and I
asked them this question. And this is the infuriating thing
about this virus. And it's not anybody's fault. There's no

(12:38):
right or wrong answer. But it's like you you ask
two different people the same question, you get two different answers.
And so I've I've talked to people that say, the
best thing that can happen is actually not having students
on campus. It's less likely. You almost create a bubble
within college athletics where you're not interacting with other people.
But then I've also talked to other people and say, well,
if you can't have if it if the school deems

(13:00):
not safe to have students on campus, you can't have
football and basketball and soccer games. And so it's crazy,
like you said, it's July eleventh, and we're still arguing
about literally like the most basic points about all of this,
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(13:22):
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for Oklahoma sideline reporter Chris Plike, How you doing, Plank,
I'm good, Artie, how are you? And Aaron tonight Man,
my friend got right off the bat um pack twelve
Big ten. You're surprised that what the conference only? They

(14:25):
just are nothing? I guess surprises you. Um are they
making the right decision? Surprised they did it now? I
thought that again we're up against it, and you know,
I thought there might be a few games that you
see postponed or re engineered. Maybe is the best way
to put it. I didn't think they would go to
conference only. I thought at some point we might see that.

(14:47):
Uh and and I think it's still is possible for
every Power five conference in group of five conference. But
I was surprised. I was surprised to a certain extent.
It happened last week though, when you saw the IVY
League news. He kind of started to feel as if
maybe we would see some of the big time schools
start to shift. And here we are now. We wait
to see if everyone else falls in line, or if

(15:08):
it's gonna be the Big ten in the back twelve
that tries to get this going. Conference only in the
SEC and the A c C and the Big Twelve
try to continue to play some of their nonconference games
they have scheduled playing. First of all, thanks for filling
in for me the other day, seven hours with Arnie
in one weekend time. You know, yeah, that's Nobel Peace
Price kind of stuff there. But actually it was eight.

(15:29):
I wasn't at eight and I was seven. You're right,
you're right. Seven. Seven too many. I was gonna say,
I'm sure it felt like more than seven. Neither here
nor there. So already asked about the timing of everything. Um,
and the thing that stood out to me and the
reason I want to have you on was because the
primary team that you cover, Oklahoma, the a D joke
as Siglione came out yesterday and and really kind of
spoke for a lot of the non Big Ten people

(15:51):
saying like, we weren't we weren't expecting this, and so
outside of your personal opinion, do you get the sense
that people outside of the Big Ten and also eventually
the Pact twelve were surprised because it's one thing as
a fan, it's one thing even as a media member.
But when people within the sport and we're supposed to
have solidarity within the Power five are surprised. That kind

(16:11):
of jumped out to me. I think people within the
Big ten, we're surprised. And the announcement was made on
when was it Wednesday or or Thursday? Whenever it happened,
and again it was okay. Could have been one of
two things. Maybe they just went ahead and said, all right,
we're not waiting, we're gonna get these schedules in place
for what hour. And I'm and and they're gonna have
to play ten games. So I don't know if and

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I know what Jeane Smith came out and said, the
farthest thing from our kind of site right now is
is the playoffs. But at least in football, they're gonna
have to find a way to play ten games. So
maybe they just said, hey, bleep it, let's get to
our volleyball, let's get to our football schedules, let's get
to our soccer schedules, and let's get this figured out
and have time to do that. Or they thought that

(16:55):
everything when you're in that line and they say step forward,
and you all make this agreement that everyone's gonna step
forward the same time, and they stepped four and everyone
just gotta stood there and looked at him. So I
don't know, but judging by the reaction from the other
athletic directors, yeah, I think it was I think it
was a surprise. I don't blame him for doing it.
And I saw this. I think you were answering a
few tweets about this. People will lay out things that

(17:17):
I first thought, like, it doesn't make a lot of sense.
Whenever you have Ohio State going to to to play
Maryland this year, it's not like Columbus to Washington d
c's necessarily or at least a d C area, I
should say, is necessarily a short trip, or guys they've
got to go up to Penn State. But the reality
of it is, you've got everyone that's that's in the
same group of testing and everyone that's kind of got

(17:39):
the same rules. And since the n C double A
really does nothing but send out very bland and useless statements,
you've got to kind of keep it within the people
that you feel like you can you can trust, for
lack of a better term. So yeah, I kind of
think that the the the Big ten might have jumped
a little bit early. The PAC twelve followed suit, and
now Aaron, we just sit around and we and we

(17:59):
wait to see if that's going to be the trend
the rest of the way, Like, do you think it's
important or how important is it? If you think it
is at all that all five of the power conferences
are on the same page where the a SEC Big
twelve in the SEC does the same thing. And the
fact that Oklahoma wants to move the Missouri State game
to a week earlier, is that in any occasion that
they're not gonna go conference only and they decided that, hey,

(18:21):
we don't care what the other ones do. Well, I
think the SEC and the Big twelve are going to
try to do everything they can to play nonconference games.
I really do. Uh. And if you heard uh, the
SEC's commissioners statements are at least thoughts today. He continues
to bring home the fact that you know, this is

(18:41):
and guarantee that we're gonna play football. You know this
is just we're working through every single possibility. Now if
you just want to focus on what I know, which
is Oklahoma in the Big twelve more than anything, Aren'tie,
They've only got you know, nine opponents that you could play.
So if you're gonna get to tenn either you're gonna
play a team twice and then go play your conference
champ be in ship game, or you're going to have

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to find a team if it's a group of five
or somebody to help fill your schedule. So that's why
I don't think you'll see the Big Twelve necessarily go
conference only. So Oklahoma, here's the thought. They play Missouri
State to open this season. They're trying to move to
two week zero uh, and then they have Army no
part me, They've got Tennessee in the second week of
the season. So the hope is that you know, you

(19:22):
get you get your game to start the season in
zero week, then you get a week to kind of see, okay,
we got a bye week, what's the test team look like?
How did that work out? Then you play another game
and then you get another bye week, so you can see,
all right, is this even gonna be possible? So that's
that's the idea behind Oklahoma trying to move this back.
And it wouldn't surprise me to see at least in
the Big Twelve that become more than norm. And now

(19:43):
you have a team and what Oklahoma State who doesn't
even have its opening game opponent Oregon States playing conference only. Uh,
Arizona was supposed to play Texas Tech Gardian what week
two or three? So now you have some teams that
are scrambling to find out, Okay, how do we fill
these voids and what does this look like in our schedule?
So Plank is interesting. You do said that you believe
the SEC is going to try to get in their
normal quote unquote schedule. Uh is that just a macheese

(20:06):
mo worthy SEC we all back down from? Or or
as Arnie and I were talking about, is it almost
a tactical advantage where you stick with eight league games
where the big ten could be playing ten, you get
those three four cream puffs on the schedule? Uh? What? What?
What do you make of why the SEC wants to
stick with twelve if at all possible. I think you're

(20:27):
looking at some areas, at least for a while in
SEC country that hadn't been as hard hit, and maybe
they're kind of pushing through to say, hey, hold on here.
You know, I understand times are tough and in Texas
and I guess Alabama had a surge there for a while,
but why are we having to shut everything down and
we think things seem to be going. Okay, that's part

(20:49):
of it, I think, Aaron to to your point about macheese, Oh,
I guarantee you that that's a part of it as
well too. But it just means more in the SEC.
But if they do go, and this is the fascinating
side of it, I keep saying, they've got to play ten,
but I don't know. I mean that that's just what
my mind would say if you listen to what you know.
The guys with the College Football Playoff Committee, Bill Hancock

(21:11):
said this past week that hey, we're still going to
gauge things by our old rules. Well that's the case.
Um oh, we're gonna have to play a couple of
teams twice in certain conferences. Maybe you start shifting around.
I mean the SEC. It makes no sense because Alabama
and Georgia play once every what seven eight years? So
I have no problem if they go to conference only,
but play some of the people in your conference, right

(21:33):
I just I think they're going to try to get
each of the SEC a SEC Big twelve right now,
the teams that haven't gone in the Power five to
Conference only. I think they're working through everything they can
to see if some of these nonconference games can still happen.
I really do aeron and whatever that reason might be.
I mean, I'm sure will Will will blame it on
Ma cheese mob will blame it on just trying to

(21:54):
keep some sort of regularity. Maybe they don't want to
break contracts or what that might look like. But I
just I, oh, that's the push right now, so try
to keep it as business as usual as possible. And
I just don't know if that's gonna end up being
the case playing the Irish. Is it that easy to
just say, well, just put him in the a c C.
They play six a CC teams anyway, Is it that easy?
It could be. I guess I'm I'm fascinated by one

(22:16):
thing in this Arnie. I get it that everybody wants
to see Notre Dame in a football conference, But along
those same lines, I mean, if they need a game,
I wanted to come play Oklahoma. I mean, I went,
I wentn't mind going up there and watching the game.
I don't understand this blink. Notre Dame, well, Missouri State again,
that was already on the schedule for years and years

(22:36):
and years, But it just it doesn't make a lot
of sense to me, this whole Yeah, take that, Notre Dame.
Hope you don't get to play a game. Okay, Well
NBC is gonna have some money that's going to end
up in your pocket if you play him. So I
don't get I understand disdain for Notre Dame, I get it,
but I don't understand this whole. Yeah. I hope they
don't have anyone to play, do you, because I'd love
to watch Oklahoma play Notre Dame or have Yeah, I

(22:58):
think Climpson and Notre Dame or actually alread playing each
other this year, and I think Notre Dame schedule has
kind of shook out where they could have been undefeated
going into that game, but now that's all shot to
you know what. Heck, I think the A c C
is gonna help him out. I think the Big Tens
are actually the Big Twelve is gonna offer to help
him out, because again you're talking about in the Big Twelve.
If they end up having to go Conference only, Arnie,

(23:20):
there's only ten teams in the Big Twelve, so there's
night you're you're gonna have to find another team somewhere
unless you want to play someone else the second time.
So I I think there's gonna be options out there
for the fighting Irish. All right, but we we will
have a season, right you, you're betting everything. We will
have a season. I think everything's on the table right now.
I think a season getting moved to the spring. I
think a conference only season. I think no season at all.

(23:42):
I mean I I think it's all just wide open
right now. And that's the unfortunate reality of of kind
of where we are in this battle against COVID nineteen.
Chris Plank Sooner Radio Network on with me on Sundays
Tomorrow night, same bad time, same bad channel. Plank, always
a pleasure body. I appreciate it. We'll talk to you tomorrow.
Thanks arenithing Sarah, have a great show, guys. Thanks player.
Let's see what's trending our first check in with Steve

(24:05):
the Sager. What's going on out there. Good evening, gentlemen.
A lot of college football to discuss. But one note
on the MLS game that just started on FS one.
This is at the same Disney Complex in Orlando, just
outside of Orlando that the NBA is using, So they're
in a one month bubble for this month long tournament
for Major League Soccer. It is currently and the game
kicked off at Eastern time, seventy seven degrees with humidity.

(24:31):
All the games are either early morning or late at night.
There's a game tomorrow that's at nine am Eastern six
am Pacific, for example. So anyway, this game Columbus and
Cincinnati is underway. Humidity that chokes you too. You know
that East Coast in it right now? Tell us for
exactly by the way, the Notre Dame reference, did you

(24:52):
see a couple of days ago there athletic director's saying
he thinks it's less likely that the college football season
starts on time now that he's grown. Were pessimistic over
the last couple of weeks, although he did say I'm
not to the point to say that we shouldn't continue
to plan for the potential to open on time. He says,
I just think it's less likely that maybe we should
shift our allocations a little more time planning the alternatives

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at this point. And the statements from the PAC twelve
yesterday and the Big Ten the day before, they both
said our student athletes who choose not to participate during
the coming academic year, if they have COVID nineteen safety concerns.
They will continue to have their scholarships honored by their school.
They will remain in good standing with their team. The
differences and by the way, the Big Ten said, this

(25:36):
decision now gives us the greatest flexibility to adjust throughout
the season, to make quick decisions in real time because
the fluid nature of the pandemic. So say they're trying
to get nine or ten conference games into a twelve
thirteen week stretch. This gives them some flexibility. The PAC
twelve announcement was difference. They not only said conference only

(25:56):
games this year, they said we're delaying the start of
mandatory athletic activities the whole country. The n c A
rule is by Monday mandatory six week long workout schedule
for players. There were no spring football practices, for example,
for most schools this year, so it's six weeks mandatory
with the film study and conditioning first, and then August

(26:20):
seven starts the normal month or so of preseason camp
with the practices. We do expect a larger the other
larger conferences not to make a decision for another couple
of weeks till late in the month. In fact, the
radio interview of the SEC Commissioner, Greg sank You said
yes once again late July for us, and his reasoning is,
we're told that we should take all the time we

(26:41):
can before a decision because every day we get new information.
That's very logical. You'll have a more informed decision by
then if you can afford to wait a couple of weeks.
And that sounds well like what they will. But his
quote was the direct reality is not good, and the
notion that we've politicized medical guidance distancing mass hand sanitization.

(27:04):
There's some clear advice out there. He says, you can't
mitigate or eliminate every risk, but how do you minimize
the risk. We're running out of time, he says, to
correct and get things right. As a society, we owe
it to each other to be as healthy as we
can be. Update on UFC two fifty one. Now keep
in mind to accommodate pay per view in North America.
The fight started well before dawn on Sunday morning in

(27:26):
the United Arab Emirates. What time is it there? Do
we know? At midnight Eastern time? It will be eight
am in Abu Dhabi. That's incredible that's wild. I had
no idea. That's kind of like the pay per view
for Ali Foreman back in the seventies. It was like
a four am fights, so it could be on evening.
Here in North America, the main card is five events.

(27:47):
The two women's bouts are over Paige Vans and lost
in the first round. She's eight and five, lost by
armbar at one of the first to Amanda Rebus. Then
Rosanama Junas got a split decision narrowly over Jessica and
It so those two are down three to go. Sunday's
NASCAR race will be on FS one from Kentucky, Chants
of rain due to start at two thirty Eastern time.

(28:07):
The trucks that race There was tonight on FS one
and that was shortened by rain and rain perhaps coming
at the PGA event in double And, Ohio. Justin Thomas
leads by two strokes, but tomorrow's final round has been
moved up due to the bad forecast of six chance
of thunderstorms and Yankees closer Rolda's Chapman tested positive for coronavirus,

(28:28):
so he's now away from training camp. He says he
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(28:48):
only hard part figuring out which way is easier. You
want to be part of the show, real simple. Erin
on the score Tores, I'm distinking genius one. You know
what I'm worried about mostly tours is that that you
know we have different was for each conference pact TROV
saying you can't play before here, um them in the
Big twelfth conference only a sec Big twelve sec. Um.

(29:08):
You know they're gonna play as many as they can
out of conference in conference, no changing, There is no
true dame gonna go to the a CEC. A lot
of uncertainty and how can they just change the schedule
like this. I I assume you love to play a
game and I have a week off and do that
through the whole season. But that's that's unrealistic. That's not
going to happen. Yeah, um, what was is there a

(29:30):
question or well it's just well the Irish going to
the a c C. Though, Uh, you know, is it
that easy to put him in something like that or not? Really? Um,
I think it's a perfect fit. I think it works
out fantastic that them the a SEC are you talking
about You're talking about just this season right picture, just
this season, just this season. No, I mean I think listen,
it makes a lot of sense. And I mean the
a CEC. Let's be honest. Outside of Clemson there really,

(29:52):
um isn't that much to get excited about. Sorry, Boston
College and Georgia Tech fans, It's true. So yeah, if
you can get six more games on the schedule of
Notre Dame is the a c C and all of
a sudden you've got a few more high profile games,
I think it's a no brainer. And so, um, you know,
can you put it together that quick? Yeah? I think
you can. I mean, I don't know how it would
all come together. I don't know what it would look like.

(30:14):
I don't know. Uh, I don't have the details, and
I don't think anybody in the a CEC office has
details right now. But if that's what it comes down to,
then yeah, I think it makes a lot of sense.
What about the games we're gonna lose, like Ohio State, Oregon, UM,
the Michigan Washington game. I think Utah b y you
was one of the games USC Alabama USC noture thing.

(30:34):
But I think that's pretty much it. Those four or
five games were the premier games. If I must, I'm
missing one of them. What a lot. Well, Wisconsin was
playing Notre Dame at lambeau Field, which people were pretty
excited about. But yeah, I mean, listen, it sucks, but
you know, I listen. I think the bigger picture and
maybe you disagree with me, Arnie is I'm not upset

(30:56):
with this only because I think this this move, even
at this time, what I what I'd like to see
him wait another couple of weeks. Yes, I would have,
but I think that this move at this time is
what the Big ten believes they have to do to
get a product on the field this year. And so
because of it, I'm actually okay with it. And it's
like you said, there's four or five games that we

(31:17):
all would have loved to watch, Washington Michigan week one,
Ohio State Oregon week two. But if we have to
sacrifice those four or five big games for ten weeks
of Big ten football. You know that's a sacrifice that
I'm personally willing to make. Maybe you disagree, Uh you
want to get in air and underscore tours. I'm in
stinking genius. One. Let's read what Antelope said said, Hey,
what about this? What's the real problem if there's no

(31:39):
college football in one or no college sports in the fall, spring,
or both, what would happen? I got an answer to that.
Did you see what happened at Stanford this week when
they cut eleven six out of the eleven? Wasn't there
something like that? They cut eleven sports this week? Are
men's volleyball, which was pretty big out there too, men's volleyball.
It's and it's a lot of Olympic sports. And I

(32:00):
know a lot of people, uh you know it's just
this or it's just well you know there that's probably
thirty forty people with coaches and personnel and everything that
lost their jobs. Some of those kids were on scholarship. Um,
you know you say it doesn't matter, but it doesn't.
And so to answer your question, if we don't play
college sports this fall, um, we're gonna see that at
every school in the country. Uh, and it was really interesting.

(32:22):
Even yesterday Florida State, which is a pretty prominent school,
pretty good football program, twenty five full time employees were
laid off. Both the major head coaches, the basketball and
football coach took major pay cuts. Um. But when twenty
five employees are laid off and we haven't even gotten
to the possibility of not playing football games, imagine what
would happen across the country if we don't play at all.

(32:45):
When we had Ryan Ryan Fowler on from Tuscaloosa and
we thought the number was about two billion dollars that
at Abauma football brings into the you know, into the city. Um,
he says it wasn't quite that much. But whatever, it is,
five hundred million to a billion. Um. How do you
replace money like that because there's no college football. You
can't do it. You can't. You can't make up that money.

(33:07):
Stores go out of business, people lose their jobs all
of a sudden, the pay their rent, their mortgage. It's
a trickle down effect. That's what happens when you have
no college football. Already college sports like that and the
economy is already going to be impacted. Because I think
you and I would agree that at this point we're
not getting a percent fans in the stands, if any
fans at all, and so the economy has already impacted.

(33:30):
And at this point, listen, I think we all understand.
We're not saying put players out there if it isn't safe,
but if it is safe, there's a lot of lives
that are going to be completely altered. College sports as
we know it will be completely altered if we don't
play games this year. By the way, a lot of
the players lives will be altered in terms of having
an opportunity to showcase themselves for the NFL all those

(33:53):
kind of things. So well, was that really But they're
all on the same page on that. It's not like
half the people got the showcase themselves. And let me
just give you an example. I mean, where would Joe
Burrow be right now if there wasn't a season last year? Right?
I mean? How many Joe Burrows are there out there? Though?
You know? And and it's so you know, we what
what bothers me about college athletics as a whole is

(34:16):
every conversation is about the one percent of one percent
the zions. The Trevor Lawrence is the Justin Fields, the
two US. Trevor Lawrence is gonna be a millionaire next
April no matter what. But there's a lot of guys
that need this season to play their way into being
drafted into the first round, improve their stock, whatever the
situation may be. Um, and so the players have something

(34:37):
at stake here too. Now everybody says, oh, well, it's
only about the money. Well, the money is a big part.
I'm not gonna pretend that it isn't. But there's a
lot of players that have a lot on the line
by playing this season as well. All right, you want
to get in Air and underscore tours. I mus think
of Genius one. We'll get to some of those in
a little bit when we get back. Can we be
moving college football? We'll get to that right here. Uh,
Fox Sports Radio, All good evening, everyone are in Torres.

(35:02):
Arnie Spaniard. The segment brought to you by Geico. You
want to be part of the show, Air and Underscore Tours.
I'm instinking Genius one our one just flying on by
gotten a lot of tweets. That's easy for me to say, Um, funny, Uh,
and I want to be the Mason Morris is funny.
Only after all these years, it seems like the media

(35:22):
and colleges are ready to admit that college football and
basketball really are the engines that keep colleges and universities running.
I wonder what they all did, were all the free
waiver they didn't have to pay? Um? Yeah, college, I
can tell you the answer to that. You pay for
scholarships for the women's soccer team and the women's volleyball team,
and the men's baseball team and the men's tennis team.
But hey, if you don't care about a non revenue

(35:44):
producing sports getting a scholarship like Mason Maller, then that's
fine too. You know, wait, is this gonna affect mostly
men's sports too? That get cut? Because you are? We
still gonna have Title nine? I guess to equal things out?
Are we gonna make exceptions here? Not? Well? Yeah, I
think you'd have to change federal to make an exception.
I could that's easy. I could be wrong on that,

(36:05):
but I think you're gonna have a change federal a lot. No.
So I mean, listen, this is a uh you know,
kind of a turning point for And what's really interesting
is if you listen to people in those sports, right.
I mean this is basically, for lack of a better term, one, um,
you know, the it's an educational opportunity for a men's wrestler,
men's soccer player, men's swimmer. But this is also and

(36:27):
I don't know how much it matters, but it is something. Uh,
these are kind of the fear systems for the Olympic programs,
and so you know, yeah, no, I was just gonna say,
if if we don't have college wrestling, if fifty programs,
I don't know how you know how many programs have
college wrestling, but if all those programs get cut, it's
gonna have a trickle up effect, I guess in the
Olympics as well. I get over the spring football. You know.

(36:48):
I used to think, Hey, not a bad idea. If
we can't play it in the fall, we'll play it
in the spring. We'll get it in what February March
April than the NFL. NFL said we're not change in
our draft. I'm like, okay, don't change the draft. So
that means Trevor Lawrence won't play, You'll get three, four
or five guys top guys won't play. That kind of sucks.

(37:09):
But what can you do at least at least will
have football. We're saving the season. Then people are coming
out like, well, I don't know, it's too short to
turn around and have another season in the fall. It's
not healthy. I don't know. I used to think spring
football was a good idea. I'm not so sure that's
a good idea right now. Yeah. I think the easy
thing to say is, oh, Trevor Lawrence and Justin Fields

(37:30):
won't play, Like, yeah, it sucks, but people still watch games,
of course, of course. Yeah, But I think it's what
you said, aren't is I don't think it's realistic. First
of all, I don't think it's any smarter to start
the season in January, in the middle of the winter.
I saw I think it was. ESPN dot Com had
a good article kind of on all the ramifications of
so we're gonna start in the winter when it's already

(37:52):
cold and flu season to begin with everybody's indoors to
begin with. Uh, it doesn't really make sense. So that's one.
But then too, it's like you said, to expect players
to play even in eight ten whatever it ends up
being twelve thirteen games season in January February March and
early April, and and then what are they gonna do?
Report back in June and start playing games again in September.

(38:12):
If they do that, let's assume it's just conference games.
Let's wipe off all of the out of conference games,
just going conference games because it's just too many to
get on in um nine games, ten games. I don't know, you,
I'm making it up as I go along, because we're
all making this up as we go along. But I mean,
it's it's it's a very real possibility that this could happen.

(38:33):
I I can't put off college football altogether, but maybe
an eight or nine game season in the spring might
have to be the way to go. Right now, well
and listen, I I do think it's a last resort.
I don't think anybody wants it. But we've spent the
first part of this show talking about the ramifications of
having no college football at all, so to kind of
piggyback off that, you're right, if the alternative is having

(38:55):
no college football or having even a shortened season in
the spring, I do think they will go to that
shortened season in the spring, but I don't think there's
anybody that wants it. If it's at all avoidable, isn't it?
If we're going to cancel it in the fall, couldn't
we just say, you know what, we'll just go of
the whole year and well we'll make sure everybody's safe healthy, um,
and just come back and started back up in the fall.

(39:17):
Or is that just too much missed UM time? And
and you know these cities can't I can't absorb that
type of loss. Yeah, I mean, I think they're gonna
do everything they can to get a product on the
field this uh, certainly this this school year. I think listen,
I think the the in a perfect world or whatever
this version of the perfect world is, you play in

(39:38):
the fall, UM, And I think that playing in the
spring is essentially the last resort to not playing at all.
So if you were giving me a percentage, I still
think there's a high percentage we play some form of
the season in the fall. But spring is something I
don't think most of the major power players want any
a hybrid where maybe we start the season in October
and we played through the US to the year, have

(40:01):
the playoff in January February. I don't even know anymore. Gez, Yeah,
you know it's a great point, right, Is there any
way that, um, you know, we start the season, and
you know because like like you said a minute ago,
the Pact twelve is is pushing back the start of
the season period, So maybe that is I think everything's
on the table right now. But they want football this fall,
right quick, first hour hour one in the books. You

(40:24):
want to get in, you want to be part of
the show, real simple, Aaron on the score tour as
I'm a stinking genius one. A lot of other stuff
to get to. Of course, major League Baseball, more players
are opting out, how's it gonna work through those sixty games.
I'm curious see how that's gonna go ahead and play
on out? Lebron doesn't want to get a message on
the back of his jersey. Will get to that one.
Also got some other NBA stuff. Busy hour to coming

(40:47):
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(41:09):
Aaron Torres. I'm already spaniel. Really easy to get into
the show, Aaron underscore, Torres, I'm in stinking genius one.
By the way, Torres, my brother UM is coming to
visit me from Los Angeles to Vermont. But he's not flying, Okay,
he's he's driving both ways because he doesn't want to

(41:30):
get out an airplane, so he's driving a I don't know.
You know Rodney Pete of course, who does of course,
a local show on our l A affiliate. Um, they
do a show called Meet the Pets, and they had
an RV there and that's the RV my brother's taking,
driving from Los Angeles to Vermont and then back to

(41:52):
l A. Say that one more time. I'm sorry that
that seemed confusing. He's taking the same RV that was
in the TV show Meet the Beats, and he's driving
it from l A to Vermont and then gonna hang
out with me for a week and then driving it
back to Los Angeles again. Okay. Um. The theme is though,

(42:13):
that he's driving. I'll say this, man, it's somebody who's
driven across country. It's actually a really fun drive. No,
it's never fun when you have to do like a
forty five. The fifty hours. That's you can't do that.
You just can't do that. Well, it depends on how
long you like, how does he have to be back
for a certain time. He doesn't have to do squad
But that's still I don't care. It sounds like you exactly.

(42:34):
But if that's that's that's a long drive in an RV.
It's like the size of a of a boat. It's
the biggest thing I've ever seen him out, Bigger than that.
It's it's unbelievable. Are you um, are you excited to
host him? Or when's the last time you saw him?
It's been a while, But I'm not let him in
my house. You can stay in the r V and
sleep in that. It's a it's a four bedroom RV.
You're sick. Man, how many but you only got one brother? Right? Yeah?

(42:57):
One brother? About to have zero after this trip. Man,
that's messed up. Man. Our numbers down here very uh
in Vermont, very low for the coronavirus. UM. We're right now,
we're like state number forty nine out of the fifty
and UM and I think Hawaii closing on us real quick.
So we're gonna be the lowest out of the fifty
states with new infections are going on right now. It's

(43:19):
crazy times. And UM, yeah, man, I don't. I don't
know what else to say. I don't. I'm not a
uh what do they call it, the person that studies
this stuff. So uh, you know, I have a lot
of thoughts on what's going on, but I just hope
we can get this under control. Really, uh so we
can get our sports. But for a million different reasons,
sports being one of them, obviously most important for this
show A right you want to get in air and

(43:40):
underscore touris I'm stinking genius one? Um. I was talking
about some of the players opting out. We see that
Buster Posey is the latest one we know David Price, Zimmerman, Desmond. Um,
it seems like more, you know, more and more it's
the baseball players, uh, and a few basketball players that
are you know, older than thirty years old that have
made their money. Um, and said, you know what, I

(44:02):
really don't want to go ahead and risk this. Yeah,
first of all, can you blame them more? To you?
A part of you say, yeah, I don't think this
is a right optic. I don't know if anybody's really
blaming him, right now you know, no, I don't think
anybody's blaming them, and you know you mentioned being older guys.
I think what it comes down to is a lot
of them have families. You know, Avery Bradley has a
I believe it was a daughter with a compromised immune system. Uh,

(44:26):
this isn't an athlete. But I saw, you know, James Franklin,
the Penn State football coach, his wife and kids are
kind of leaving the state because his daughter has a
similar deal and they're leaving the state for the foreseeable future.
And so what I what I would say is, you know,
we always talk about family first and family before anything else. Well,
these guys are putting their family first. And so I'm

(44:47):
not gonna sit up here and criticize anybody if they
feel like their wife and kids come even before their careers. Wife, kids, UM,
and families. That what just said, cousins, grandparents, in laws, um,
third cousins. That's that's what you're telling me, right, yeah,
especially the third cousins. More than that. Well, that's when
where do you draw the line? I guess is where

(45:08):
I'm asking you draw the line with each individual's comfort.
You know, I'll say this is that. Uh. You know,
I'm here in the Fox Sports radio studios here in
Los Angeles, and I give our bosses so much credit.
They have never once asked me to come in if
I'm not comfortable. And I think that reflects on sports
as well, is that if you don't feel like you're
coming And there by the way, there are guys showing

(45:28):
up and then opting out when they get there or
they're not cleared, or whatever the case may be. And
so to me, I'm not gonna draw the line anywhere
if you don't feel comfortable playing. I mean, there's a
lot of data that would reflect Greg Popovich even said
today the safest place I can be as a seventy
one year old is in this bubble um. There's a
lot of data that reflects these guys will be safe.

(45:49):
But again, especially the guys with young kids. I don't
blame him at all. Buster Posey, the latest one you
said young kids, and I can't remember who in the
NBA said they're opting out want to spend time with
their two year old? Um? Is that okay? He's not
worried about getting corona. Um, he's not worried about getting sick.
Just doesn't want to be away from his two year

(46:09):
old for that long. Um, then the other players are
gonna say, wait a minute, I've got a two, three,
four or five year old. I don't want to be
away from my kid that long. But I'm down here playing.
So is that okay with you? When somebody says something
like that just because you don't want to spend time
with your family when they visit ar and he doesn't
mean that these other guys no, I mean, listen, every
got a job to do, uh Aaron, And if they're

(46:31):
not worried about getting sick, you know, um is saying
I just want to be with my two year old.
Good enough? Excuse them? Well, it was it a baseball player.
I mean listen, as a basketball player, I believe like
basketball player, I mean, you know, every situation is different, right,
And I hate to say it, but like if the
guy plays for the Washington Wizards and he knows he's
gonna only going there for two two and a half weeks,
it's a lot different than if it's a starter for

(46:53):
the Lakers. And so without knowing who the guy is
and all the details, it's hard. It's just you know,
I'm one and You've asked me this every single week
since this thing started. Would you be comfortable doing this?
Would you be comfortable doing that? And I and I am. I.
I haven't gone back to the gym yet, but I've
gone away on vacation. I've I've used the proper you know,
I've been flown though, right, And you've driven, but you

(47:13):
haven't flown. That is correct. I was actually supposed to
fly to Vegas next week and that trip unfortunately canceled
for outside reasons other than than that. Not that you're
afraid to fly or anything like that, exactly. Yeah, And
so you know, without knowing this individual exactly what the
deal was, as if it was only to spend time
with this kid. I don't know. I don't know how
to feel, but I think it's a case by case basis, Arnie,

(47:36):
and I would just say, in general, with all of
these guys so far, I get it, like, if you
have young kids, if you have this, if you have that,
I don't blame them for not wanting to take the risk.
What happens if it was the NBA Finals and someone said, yeah,
that's that's that I missed my child too much. I'm
gonna take the finals off to spend time with my
two year old. Well, can't they come? Can't they too

(47:58):
into the bubble of a certain But it's kind of
the same thing, isn't it, though? Or no, then you're
gonna say no, no, what happens if Lebron said I'm
not gonna play in the playoffs this year because I
want to be tough. I want to spend time with
my three, four or five or you know whatever what
you think. You think we do we talk about anything
else for the next ten years other than that. Two thoughts. One,

(48:21):
I would love they fall down three one to the
Clippers in the Eastern in the Western Conference froms you know,
I really want to spend more time with my kids.
I haven't seen him in a while, Kay Lebron, No,
I mean well, And and the other thought really is
if Lebron had really been a vocal I'm not coming
Like I hate to say it, but don't you kind
of think that maybe this bubble thing wouldn't be happening.
And I know it sounds crazy, but remember Patrick Beverley

(48:44):
tweeted it a couple of weeks ago. He said, what
Lebron's doing the whole league is doing, and it's thankfully
we don't have to think about it. But if Lebron
didn't want to play, I don't know if there would
be this bubble. I mean, the NBA has gone through
a lot to get this bubble going. And if the
most marketable play are on the most marketable team wasn't coming,
I think that's a different conversation. That sounds crazy, but

(49:05):
I really believe that. Did they end up with the
best idea of them all between their bubble Baseball saying
let's just play on home, um, you know, home turf,
but we'll go ahead and limit to travel. Or did
hockey get it right with the two cities? Uh? With
like I don't know what do I call it a
semi bubble? I don't even know what to call hockey.
It's like, oh, here from them once every week or two. So, um,

(49:28):
who's who's gonna have it right? Or all three good
Ivan right? Or all three good Ivan wrong? Well, two
cities and uh, you know, I'm not gonna get political here,
but both north of the border where the rates are
much lower. I mean you could probably make the argument
that Hockey got it right right, and but I listen,
I'll say this. I've been critical at various points of
various procedures, policies, thoughts, we're gonna wait till this time,

(49:49):
we're gonna do this, we're gonna do this, call whatever.
I just give all these leagues credit for getting a
product back on the field. Now. The same with college
sports that we talked about a minute ago. There are
economic reasons behind ended, but it would have been easy
for one of these leaks to say, you know what,
it's just not possible. It can't happen this year. All whatever.
Four if you include the MLS, they've all found a way.

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The MLS is literally on our TVs right now. And
I give all these leaks so much credit. All right,
you want to get in air and underscore tourist, I'm
in sticking genius one of all this chat in the
lays to test positive? Um, remember was it like a
week or two? And I don't even know the time
frame anymore, that every time an athlete tested positive, like
oh no, boy, look at that. And then with the

(50:31):
colleges five or ten or like what was going on
with Clemson? Oh my goodness. Now it's like, okay, somebody
else tested positive. We'll see you in about seven or
fourteen days, and we don't talk about it the rest
of the time. It's it's like we move on, right, Yeah,
it's really interesting. I actually remember I was filling in
the first weekend right after they canceled the n c

(50:53):
A tournaments. They cancel n c A tournament On that Thursday,
I was in on a Sunday with Dan Buyer, and
I love Dan, And this isn't a criticism of Dan
one bit at all, but we actually had the debate
on air where there was a minor league er in baseball.
He was the first minor leaguer to test positive, and
I said, is that really news? Like do we need
to report it? And he said, well, of course we do.

(51:13):
It's it's it's it's professional sports. We cover sports. And
I said, we're gonna get a lot of these positives
here in the next few weeks, a few months. And
and I'm by no means saying that I was right
or Dan was right, or this was right or that
was right. But we knew from the beginning this was
a highly contagious disease UH virus illness whatever. UM and
I knew, and we all knew that as these guys

(51:33):
and girls got back together and their various sports people
were going to test positive. So I I actually give
the league's credit for not making too much about it,
for understanding most of these cases are asymptomatic, UM, and
understanding that this is a risk that you're going to
take to get back onto the field, onto the court,
whatever the case may be. Is a couple of people
testing positive. What I didn't realize there's so many more

(51:55):
people are testing positive. And yes, I know we're testing more,
but um, and to uh hate to say that, I'm
kind of used to the numbers of seeing how many
people have tested positive. UM, because there are a lot
of them are asymptomatic. They're getting over it, they're getting
back out there and and they're playing their sports. So
it is not a bad way to look at it.
They haven't They're we're gonna move on, you know. I

(52:15):
think it's a great way to look at it. And
you know, the part of this is and it comes
down to you know, media and this and all that.
But you know, something that has bothered me is that,
especially at the beginning, but even when all these college
kids started reporting back, is that we we treated every
positive case as though it was well, they're gonna end

(52:36):
up in the hospital and this and that, and I'm
not trying to Yeah, and I'm saying and I'm not
trying to be disrespectful people listening, No, people that were
in the hospital that we're really sick. And I'm not
trying to be disrespectful. But when you have a situation
like Clemson with thirty seven or whatever players and basically
all of them are asymptomatic, I'm not saying it's not
a cause for concern, but I do think we have

(52:57):
to separate those that are truly sick, truly in the hospital,
truly battling for their lives. And we're all praying for
those men and women with a college age kid or
whomever that's asymptomatic and is bouncing back real quick. What
happened to those seven? Well, did you hear any more
about it? Did we are? Okay? There? Did we you know?
Was there any more talk on that or what? Yeah?

(53:18):
Clemson put out a statement I think yesterday, um that
I'm trying to find it really quick. They did another
round of testing and it was far fewer people. Um,
but okay, so here it is Clemson update since June
Clemson has completed two nine two additional tests UH six

(53:40):
positive for for athletes and two two coaches, But that's
across the entire athletic department, so it doesn't specify with football.
Kevin says that Poser Corona bro stinking Genius is so
obsessed and freaked out that nobody should do anything until
vaccine has made so soft and gutless. I don't remember
saying that. I remember you'll let your brother into your house.

(54:02):
What do you mean you don't remember saying that he's
got an r V? Why do I need to let
him in my house? But he's got a big r
V to stay, and so he's CREEPYRV. Guys, what you're
saying you don't know what what's going on in the
back of that. If that RV's rocking, you're not knocking.
Is that what you're telling me? He's just got a
big RV to stay and he doesn't need to be
staying in my house. But she said big r V. Wow,
driving across country you want to get in air and

(54:24):
underscore tours. I'm in stinking genius one. All right? What
about the NFL? Will they delay the season there? Uh?
Will the NFL play on Saturdays. If colleges have a problem.
We'll get to all that coming up decks right here
on Fox Sports Radio. All right, good evening everyone, Aaron Torres,
Arny Spaniard. The segment brought to you by Geico. You
want to be part of the show, air and underscore tourist.

(54:45):
I'm in stinking genius one. By the way, you're getting
out a little bit more or what you're hitting restaurants,
go in any place or still kind of quarantining in
yourself there, Torres, Well, the restaurants you can't really sit
at so unless they have outdoor seating. Right now, in California,
you're not indoors. We were indoors and then we're not anymore.
I didn't even know that. Ironically, the only county in

(55:07):
the state that's basically opened this point is the one
with the winery owned by the governor. So that's a
little bit weird. Uh. That was That was a hot
topic on Twitter for a couple of days. I don't
know if that's your hands now. It's not funny that
those of us I want to but I was. We're
indoors right now here in Vermont. Yeah, that's where we
were at and then the cases went up unfortunately. But listen,

(55:29):
you know, my wife and I got away last week,
we got away this week. Uh, and I planned all
of it with the anticipation that i'd come back in
the middle of July and get get you know, turned
my full attention to football. But we'll see where that goes.
There's no vacations in August this year. Where if everything's
going on with NHL, NBA, major League Baseball. Um, I'm

(55:49):
not gonna quite say college football yet. A matter of fact,
NFL A couple of things on that. First of all,
any chance they delayed the start of the NFL season.
I mean, look, if college is going to delay their
season or they're gonna go to the conference only, NFL
is a different story. Now, these are paid athletes. These
are not college athletes out there. Um does that make
a difference. What is it going to take for the

(56:11):
NFL to say we've got to move this back. I
guess it's gonna take some serious new infections. I'm guessing.
I saw where it was at the Baltimore Ravens that
they only went about fourteen thousand fans at the games.
And we'll get to that but first of all, you
feel okay with the NFL starting on time or you
got some reservations about that. I don't know if you

(56:32):
saw this story, but they're already bickering over money. Um. Obviously,
the NFL or the owners or whoever said they want
to keep like thirty five percent of of all salary
and like escrow or whatever in case and the play.
So it's already feels like baseball to me, which has
me worried. UM. But no, I mean, listen, I do

(56:52):
think the NFL is a little bit different. Um. You know,
we talked about players sitting out that have made a
lot of money. There aren't a lot of guys in
the NFL that have made kind of life altering money. Um.
And the window to do it is so small that
I think more guys are going to get want to
get on the field. But listen, we've seen how this
goes when you get guys back and training in uh
you know, with college, with testing and all that stuff.

(57:14):
So I guess we'll have to wait to see guys
when they get back, what the testing numbers look like
all that. I'd be shocked. I would be shocked if
the NFL, UM moved one game back. I and maybe
I'm completely off base on this, and as you mentioned,
there's not been any testing on these guys. Let's see
what happens when they start getting the camp. But um,

(57:34):
especially if we're not going, what are we down the
two preseason games? Are we're taking care of those already?
I don't even know, because I don't think there'll be
any preseason games. But um, with that being said, I
don't see the NFL starting lait. I think if there's
a lot of infections, they'll kind of shut down camps,
quarantined them for a little bit, and then with very
little preseason games, get ready for the start of the

(57:55):
regular season. There no, I do too. I do too
in the NFL, um, you know the you know they
they have had from the beginning, the advantage of time
literally the last major sport that was set to begin,
many of them were already obviously going on when all
this happened, and they still have the advantage of time
they get. Obviously they'll be reporting the training camp around
the time that, uh, the NBA and Major League Baseball start,

(58:17):
But I'm sure they're watching those sports. How they're kind
of getting set up. I would imagine that a training
camp would be similar to what MLB is doing right now,
where the players are kind of together, trying to keep
them apart from you know, larger society, so they still
get to watch these other sports for a couple of
weeks before they even get to training camp, let alone
a season. Okay, I know we have a lot of
tweets and we'll get to them, but I want the

(58:39):
listeners um to answer one thing. You know, when you
hear that the Ravens are, you know, would only fourteen
thousand fans maybe going to the games? Obviously a lot
of NFL teams are going to have to have to
cut off somewhere. Aaron, how many of you plan on
going to the games? I mean, how how do you
Is it just gonna be season ticket holders? Is it
gonna be what have sason ticket holders half out to

(59:01):
the public? Um? How do you work something like this?
What's the fairest way here? And you can't just give
them all to the season ticket holders? And do you
feel comfortable and go into an NFL game if there's
only gonna be fifty fans? Yeah? So it's really interesting
because it was funny I was talking to our buddy
Ryan Fowler about this this week. But so I think
at least in college now I can't speak to the NFL.

(59:22):
Maybe it's a little different one. I think there's a
lot of season ticket holders that might just opt out
this year and just say I'd rather stay at home.
I don't feel safe. I have I myself are older,
I have older parents, whatever I feel like. You know,
we've had this big talk about how do you tell
a season ticket holder no. I feel like most season
ticket holders at this point, and most fans would say

(59:45):
if the alternative is I have to give up my
season tickets, or I get fewer games, I can only
go to two instead of eight home games, whatever it is,
or I get no season at all, which is where
this thing could be a month right now out I'll
take that. I'll sit at home if I get to
watch my Ravens or my Patriots are my Chiefs. So
we'll see. It's a question that all these teams are

(01:00:07):
asking themselves right now. But I think fans, not all
of them, but I think more of them will be
accepting if they can't get things as normal this year
as opposed to previously. So you're saying there are more
that are gonna go, then more, I mean more fans. Um,
we'll say I'm okay with it, I'll wear a mask.
I believe one team, I think it's the Ravens said
fans must wear a mask. Um, I don't think I would.

(01:00:32):
If I was gonna go, uh to a game. I'm
gonna change my mind if they're gonna make me wear
a mask at the game while the game's going on
and I want to try to cheer. Yeah, that's a
tough one because you're out in public and you want
to keep everybody safe. Though. Yeah, I mean if that's
the rule, that's the rule. And I mean that's the rule.
But that's gonna stop me from going, is what I'm
telling you. Though, it would stop me from going. What

(01:00:54):
you're saying, then you don't go, like I mean, they
got plenty of other people that will go. Stand that,
but I'm not gonna go if I can't. I mean,
you know, how's that gonna work out? Um? When you
got you know, steel or fans or whatever, fans I
want to cheer and something that I I have to wear
a mask or something like that. Yeah, it'll be interesting
and it'll be interesting. What the protocols are. I mean, somebody,

(01:01:14):
you know, I just got back from Vegas a few
weeks ago and people are asking me about it. In Vegas,
it was like if you had a drink in your hand,
if you had a food in your hand, they were
pretty lax about letting you kind of keep the mask
around your neck or whatever. So if you are a
Steelers fan and you got that yngling in your hand
or whatever, a hot dog or whatever, what what maybe
it's you know what yngling is, It's it's a it's

(01:01:34):
a Pittsburgh slash Jersey slash Pennsylvania beer. Aren't get with
the program. So, uh, if you're the NFL, do you
you say, hey, you know what, college is having a
little a little bit of a problem. They're going to
go conference only. Let's see if we get some of
that early Saturday television revenue or some of that early
Saturday television ratings and try to attack the Saturdays maybe

(01:01:58):
one or two games there, or do they just not
even bother and say that strictly for the college football.
It'll be interesting because the NFL, I don't think, really
cares much about the NBA because if you remember that
they don't at all. Yeah, they're coming after the NBA
and they're putting a game on Christmas Day this year,
which was a big you know double you know what
to the NBA. College football I don't know, because college

(01:02:21):
football in the NFL seemed to have a good relationship.
Obviously the NFL understands what college football does for their product.
But at the same time, if you're not gonna put
on games, why wouldn't the NFL take advantage of it?
Why not go ahead and put a couple of especially
if it's gonna be in September. Um, in those first
end of August September, first couple of weeks in there, though,
the NFL is not going to be started, that's the problem.

(01:02:44):
The NFL is gonna start a couple of weeks later,
So we have to see how the college football is
going to go. Can you imagine, um, if there's a
gap to fill on Saturday in the NFL tries to
muscle on in over college football. Uh, that could certainly
bring out some television ratings. I know a lot of
people that'd rather watch the NFL than any type of
college football game at all. You know, Well, I think

(01:03:05):
it just depends right. I mean, if it's a UM
Jets Dolphins game in two is not playing and it's
going up head to head against Notre Dame Clemson. So
I just think it just depends on the circumstance. I
think more people watch the NFL in general, but I
think it's a game to game basis. I think would
probably determine that. By the way, I know, we don't

(01:03:27):
get a lot into the game aspect of the whole thing,
Cam or stid Um, who will be the starter week
one when if we haven't gone on, I'm it's been
so long since we just talk sports. I don't know
what I don't even know how to do it. In
the next next show, we're just gonna break down the

(01:03:47):
NBA bubble game by game. You know, Pelicans, Blazers, who
you got because I'm tired of talking to Corona. But uh,
as far as the Patriots, I mean, listen, you don't
sign Cam Newton, even on a one year deal if
you don't plan on playing them. It's crazy because I
never bought the Jared Stidham stuff. But for like six months,
I look like an idiot because it didn't feel like

(01:04:07):
anything was gonna happen. But sure enough they get Cam.
I think he's their start of week one. Aaron on
the score touris, I'm at stinking genius one. We got
a bunch of NBA stuff to get to. Lebron says,
no message on my jersey. First, Let's see what's trending,
whether Buddy Steve the second, what's going on out there?
This a goat an update on that Florida Weather. It's
halftime about to start the second half of that MLS

(01:04:28):
game on FS one right now. Seventy six degrees percent
humidity and twelve thirty in the morning. Yes, nice and
stick Florida Weather. Columbus up to nothing at the half
against FC Cincinnati. By the way, the next game on
that field, they're at the same Disney Complex with the
NBA is of course this is an outdoor sport. The

(01:04:48):
next game on that field is at nine am Eastern.
It's supposed to be eighty three degrees with eighty three
percent said, there's a game after this, like one of
the what are you talking? Was a twenty four at
the four. I'll tell you this A long time ago,
I was a broadcaster for what was essentially minor league
summer league baseball and we went to a twenty four

(01:05:08):
hour tournament in Wichita. It was actually fun, and it
was also fun because our game ended it like nine,
and they start beer in the stadium till two, so
so I don't know if there's no people in the stadium.
For the MLS, one of the local radio stations I
worked for, we had a twenty four hour softball tournament going.
One field was kept in you know, hour after hour,
game after game. I finished a shift at midnight on

(01:05:30):
the air and went to the field played a few games.
It was great. The reason why this is still going
is because the earlier Major League Soccer game on Fox TV.
Of course it's in Florida, so it had a weather
delay of forty five minutes at the start, so New
York Red Bulls had an early goal. Once it did start,
they won one nothing over Atlanta. Update from college football,
Maryland has temporarily suspended the voluntary workouts for the football

(01:05:53):
program because of some positive virus tests in there screening
on campus this past week. So you can add that
to Ohio date in North Carolina that put a temporarily
heart to halt to their voluntary workouts. Also, Arizona has
been on that list Boise State, Kansas, Kansas State, and
some others. Houston included. Did you see the new England
Patriots story today? Very good? Writer Mike g Reece from

(01:06:16):
ESPN says the Pats have settled compensation grievances with Antonio
Brown and Aaron Hernandez over the past week. The cap
that's right, they had owed nine mill to Brown. He
gets a settlement of five million instead from the signing
boats memory was cut in September, and then finally fin
figuring out the grievance with the late Aaron Hernandez. He

(01:06:39):
writes that earlier this week, before they restructured rex Burg
heads contract, the Patriots were down to less than a
half million in capspit now over seven and a half mill.
Update from UFC two fifty one again midnight Eastern time
equals eight am in Abu Dhabi, Max Holloway apparently leading
his bout and then there's one more after this. There

(01:07:01):
were earlier wins for Peter Rosnama Judas and Amanda Rebus
on pay per view and with the odd hours. We
mentioned that at the last hour and I've looked it
up now. The when Ali upset form and the famous
Rumble in the Jungle. That fight started at four thirty
in the morning in Africa. Why because an estimated fifty

(01:07:22):
million viewers watched the fight on pay per view, which
back then was closed circuit TV in a theater, but
they still loaded up the millions in the bys. Justin
Thomas leads the PGA event in Ohio by two strokes,
but tomorrow's final round was moved up due to a
forecast of bad weather six chance of thunderstorms tomorrow and
doublin Ohio. Sunday's NASCAR race will be on FS one

(01:07:44):
from Kentucky to thirty pm Eastern time, chance of rain
for that. The Trucks Race in Kentucky was tonight on
FS one. It was shortened by rain. Lebron James will
be one of the few NBA players this summer not
to wear a jersey that has a social justice message.
He didn't get to choose the list of options players
can have. Yankees closer Arolda's Chapman tested positive for coronavirus,

(01:08:05):
so he's now away from training camp. He says he
has mild symptoms. Infielder DJ Lemayhew of New York still
isolating at home after testing positive last week. Ah and Aaron,
you made a point about the Olympic sports in college
athletics that isn't talked about enough of what a huge
feeder that is the American college sports system, not just

(01:08:26):
to the us TA, mainly the US but all over
the world other athletes as well, because obviously students come
to universities in this country from other countries. I looked
up Stanford as an example because they have cut some
of the Olympic sports in their athletic department this past week,
not just because of the virus, but that didn't help
that it's not just swimming. Like Janet Evans and Katie Ladecki.

(01:08:46):
Over the years Stanford in the century of the Olympics,
Stanford has won two hundred seventy Olympic medals. Just at
the last Rio Olympics four years ago, it was a
school record twenty seven medals. One if Stanford had been
its own country, it would have been in the top
ten on the medal table. Brazil, the host country, won

(01:09:08):
nineteen medals. Stanford won seven at the last Olympics, and
so Stanford's got all of these total medals over the century. U. C. L. A.
And call each over two hundred USC about three hundred medals.
So to the point for this fall, some of these
college Olympic sports nationwide are funded by the football program
success in the athletic department. Well, and as Arnie brings up,

(01:09:31):
no disrespect to the ladies at all, but it is
going to be probably prominently men's sports to keep the
title nine numbers good or even or whatever. Yeah, that
get cut. And so you know, if men's wrestling is
just like in one example, tennis, golf, all those stuff,
and any sport that gets cut is unfortunate. But I
do think Arnie's right is that it's gonna be predominantly

(01:09:52):
male sports, all right, thanks to seger eron Torres, Arnie
Spatu you want to be part of the show air
and on the score tours Ivan's thinking genius one. By
the way, it's easy to say fifty percent of more
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figuring out which way is easier. By the way, why

(01:10:14):
does it have to be like that or the these
programs get cut can you explain to me why it
has to happen like that? Though? Well, you know, see
there's this thing called money that you need to run stuff,
and um, without any football, there's gonna be no money.
So no, man, you know this is the crazy part,
Arn'tie is? You know? For years we've had these arguments
you gotta pay college athletes got and we all get,

(01:10:36):
especially the prominent football and basketball players probably deserve more
than they get, which is why they're bringing in this name,
image likeness stuff. But I bring this up to say
a lot of these athletic departments are a lot closer
to the red than many people would indicate. You know,
I'm gonna tell you why that's bologny, and I know
you're not allowed to do this, but things have got

(01:10:58):
to change and we're in a difficult time. Things are different.
This is not any normal year. Um, do you have
any idea? I'm just don't look it up, but do
you have any idea how much endowment Stanford has? Do
you have? Just do you want to take a guess?
So we're gonna have to ask Bernie this because Bernie,
yeah that you can't use endowment money for athletics. Let

(01:11:21):
me tell you the answer. Twenties seven point seven billion.
Think to think about that. Now you're gonna cut how
many sports programs and you have twenty seven point seven
billion dollars in endowment? No, I if you know you

(01:11:43):
could use a little bit of that money for a
year or two when you're having a pandemic going on.
If you can't use that money to save sports programs
during a pandemic, what the hell is that money there for?
To begin with anyone? A couple of things. One I
would say, uh, you know, and I was reading up
about this a little bit. First of all, and I'm
I've never worked in a school's uh you know kind

(01:12:06):
of department that that raises money, but a lot of
it is earmarked for certain things, certain projects. Understand that
seven point seven billion though, Go ahead, Yeah, I just
I guess what I would say is, you know, tell
the chemistry department that, you know, women's rowing is more
important than chemistry. I don't have all the answers, but
I'm just saying, you know, there's gonna be arguments from

(01:12:27):
people within the academic community that whatever academic program is
going to lose that money, would uh you know, it's
not worth it relative to sports doesn't have to be
like that though are And like I said, twenty seven
billion dollars is enough to cover, um, whatever costs that
you're going to lose. It's enough for the seven or
the eleven athletic teams are cutting plus to still keep um,

(01:12:47):
what's going on academically. But this doesn't have to be permanent.
This is not something that you're going to earmark for
the next you know what, fifty years. We're just talking
about twenty twenty, the one, maybe twenty twenty two. I mean,
I'd love to see what you're gonna do with twenty
seven billion dollars. And I know what else to go

(01:13:08):
to new buildings, um, you know, growing the university and
stuff like that. But that's that's a lot of dough,
my friend. Again, not twenty seven million, twenty seven billion. UM.
If you can't use that money to save people, to
save programs and the save sports, I don't. I'm starting
the one that what the hell you're really using it
for anyway? You know? Yeah, you know, all I would

(01:13:29):
say is that I don't have an answer to it. Um,
there must be a reason, and maybe it is. Maybe
it is something you can do as a one time deal.
Bernie actually tweeted about this, so we can use ask
him about it in about forty five minutes. But um,
but yeah, no, I mean, listen, I don't want to
see him cut because, like I said, this is forty
fifty people losing their jobs as coaches, trainers, whatever, and

(01:13:51):
then it's hundreds of students that their lives. You know,
maybe they came to Stanford in part because of the
opportunity to play sports and they're not gonna get that
opportunity anymore. By the way, you're okay, not too hungry.
I hope you're reading better than the NBA players are.
Oh my good. No. I thought they had a choice
of like five hotels and the varen Staking trip according
to J. R. Smith. And then I see pictures of

(01:14:12):
like a sandwich that I wouldn't take out. I don't
know that that looks like they've got out of the
trash can with a side and of uh, you know,
some type of fruit. And they're charged to get charged
like forty five dollars. What's going on out there? So
I'm a little confused too, because I you know, Jeff Goodman,
a reporter for Stadium who comes on. Sometimes he tweeted
out a picture of food that looked kind of fine

(01:14:33):
to me, and I'm just kind of tired of players complaining.
I mean, you know, I I like, I hate to
be like Mr. Or whatever, but I mean, we got
millions of children go to bed hungry every day in
this country, and like, I don't feel sorry for an
NBA player that got a piece of chicken that that
was that he didn't like. But then I also had
people say that I guess after twelve days, I guess
that's part of the quarantine period, they are allowed to

(01:14:56):
kind of go to the restaurants on site or whatever,
So it's really only the first twelve days. I'm not
totally sure how that works, but I think the food
options get a little bit better in the coming days,
That's my understanding. I can't they just order it and
haven't brought to the room then from the good places.
Who knows, I don't know why. Maybe the Sagre knows.
The Sager coming up next with us as we finish
off our number two right here on Fox Sports A Radio.

(01:15:20):
Welcome back the Fox Sports Radio. He's here in Torres'
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by Geico. Let's check it with the Sager who even
the Sager's getting ripped on on Twitter. I love it too, Yeah,
you wrote it, probably I'm getting No. I didn't write it.
They said you're being a Debbie down That's been said
before with facts. It says already if you've got the blank,

(01:15:42):
asked the Sager, or however you spell his name, why
is he such a sports downer? When they are gone,
he will not be needed? Ask him if there's three months,
what are you talking about? Anyway, he goes on, he's
not a fan. On a different note, speak the truth.
What do you make of Arnie claiming that he gave

(01:16:02):
you the night off last week? Because well, that's kind
of his par for the course, isn't He fancies himself
to have some measure of power at the network, which
is of course why we're on at midnight on a weekend.
You did just reference using facts to Sager. Thankfully you're
here to do that because my partner doesn't much. By

(01:16:24):
the way, at the UFC, once again, we're nearing what
one am Eastern time, which would be nine am tomorrow
in Abu Dhabi, so Apparently Max Holloway is winding down
and a win for his fight, which would mean one
more fight left on the pay per view card. But
you guys were talking about college athletic departments. Here put
this in perspective. Indiana football actually made a bowl game

(01:16:47):
last year, which means more money. Of course, Who's your
Sports Report gave the news and they had a lead
and blew it late, lost two and the Gator Bowl
to Tennessee. They got through the conference. The athletic department
in Indiana received two point one two million dollars. The
expenses were two point one six million dollars in Jacksonville.

(01:17:09):
The bowl game actually cost them forty thousand bucks because
they spent you know, a hundred thousand on awards, including
the bowl rings that they bought, bringing the band, and
all the air travel costs and the ground travel and
the hotel. It's just, you know, at least the coach
got more for football practices. But you know whatever, there
are a hundred and thirty college football programs and they're

(01:17:32):
not all Texas, Alabama and USC as far as profit.
Even among the big schools, there have been a few
running deficits. U c l A for example, their athletic
department in general not helped at all by the football
program in recent years. Uh. Yeah, why do you think
under Armour wants out? Uh? U c l A Athletics
the last couple of years, I believe has had about

(01:17:53):
a twenty million dollar deficit. They actually had to get
a loan from the university to pay the athletic department budgets.
So not everybody, not everybody is you know, has money
flying out of their pockets just because they have a
football team on campus. Uh. Well, Orlando, Florida is the
side of this humidity soccer game that's going on on
FS one. It's now for nothing Columbus over FC Cincinnati.

(01:18:16):
Another game coming up on the field at nine am
Eastern time. Uh And also the NBA is where the
uh is that the same complex? Disney Complex? And yeah,
the Lakers had their first group practice today in Orlando.
They wouldn't say how many of their seventeen players are
with the team. Two were reportedly out today, one because
of glitches and testing, one because he still has a
clear quarantine after arriving late. The Clippers Lakers is the

(01:18:40):
matchup to start a restart the regular season. July Kawhi
Leonard joined the Clippers last night. He was going through
quarantine protocol. Today when the Rockets arrived, James Harden and
Russell Westbrook were not with the team. They're due to
join the team next week. Good for them, they'll take
their time. Also in Orlando today, Disney World reopened at
least to the Magic Kingdom and Animal Kingdom part reopened today.

(01:19:03):
Wednesday it will be Epcot and their Hollywood studios will reopen. Wow,
all these near record virus case numbers are up in
the state of Florida. You know, Aaron talked about the numbers.
To me, not that the case numbers are insignificant, it's
just hospitalizations and deaths to me are far more significance.
And Florida's Health department reported over four hundred more hospitalizations,

(01:19:26):
the state's largest increase in a single day. In fact,
I saw a great clip of baseball a Grand Slam
being hit in Taiwan, because remember they were the first
pro baseball league in the world to start. They combated
the virus so early and so well, even though they're
right next to China and so they had fans going nuts.
It was great to see they have under ten deaths

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from COVID nineteen, they have under ten current cases. They
have more people living in Taiwan than the state of
Florida in the populations over twenty million each and yet
Florida's got what four thousand deaths and they have ten
in Taiwan, And so they were the first baseball start.
A newsweek had an incredible story today that a person

(01:20:11):
aged thirty attended one of these quote COVID parties thinking
it was a hoax, and he has passed away in
San Antonio. The chief medical officer at Methodist Health Healthcare
said it was a party held by someone who was
diagnosed with the virus, thought that, you know, hey, let's
get people together see if the virus is real, see
if anyone gets infected. And just before the patient died,

(01:20:34):
they looked at their nurse and said, quote, I think
I made a mistake. I think this was I thought
this was a hoax. It is not. It's the same
two sentences that get said on these airways pretty much
every weekend. I think all three of us would agree, One,
this is not the end of civilization. Two, it's not
a hoax either. Don't be a jerk, don't be stupid.
It's like when we've had these conversations. At a previous show,

(01:20:56):
Tonight talked about the conversations of wearing a mask, which
like in sec Territory today Louisiana, everybody over a j
you gotta wear a mask. Tennessee's athletic director said. People
asking me, are we gonna have fans at Valls games?
He said, you can determine that outcome between now and
kickoff in September. Wear a mask. You got to actually
think about other people. That's what That's what it comes

(01:21:18):
down to. It's not the end of the world, but
it's not nothing either thanks to Sager Two Hours or
in the books The Power Hours coming up next. You
want to be part of the show, real simple, Aaron
Underscore Torres, I'm at stinking Genius one. This is Fox
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I'm a stinking genius one coming up with about at
the minutes Bertie Fratto straight out of Vegas. He had

(01:22:04):
the weekend off last weekend, so we're gonna charge him?
What are we gonna charge him, Torres? Maybe a free
suite or you didn't have to, You didn't have to
fill in for him, so I would have loved to.
But you know he's well, now he's gonna give me
a free suite out of this. He's gonna have to,
of course, give me a freeze. What shows are out
there now that I'm gonna want to go to? You know,

(01:22:26):
he seem freed and Roy you know, you seemed like
a Britney Spears guy. Maybe absolutely two tickets to Britney Spears.
Something at that. Selene Dion's done so she doesn't go anymore.
Need a thousand dollars and chips now. But Carrot Top
you strike me as a carrot top kind of guy.
He's at the luxur. I think I do like carrot Top.
I know, of course you like carrot Top. That's the

(01:22:46):
most predictable thing. Ever, Why wouldn't I like carrot Top?
What's wrong? Would like in Carrot Top? I mean, well,
we'll let the listeners chime in if they want to share.
But there's been in Vegas for like fifty years, hasn't he.
I mean, I think he's like forty two. But yeah,
he's ripped too. Have you ever seen the guy he's ripped.
I've not seen him. I've never paid close attention to
what Carrot Top bench presses. Now. I was standing next

(01:23:08):
to him one, so he is ripped. He's pretty buff.
Where were you standing next to Kegas? I was in Vegas.
By the way, fifty five years old looks good for
a five year old, I must say, wow, I would
be five. I would have guessed like thirty eight. But
then I was like, he's been around too long to
be thirty. You thought me and carrat Top were thirty eight?
Huh No, I thought you were like eighty. I hate you.

(01:23:32):
You're filling in tomorrow. I see you don't. Don't make
me look bad. I put you on the schedule. You're putting.
That was very nice to you. You're welcome, You're well,
I'm working with a real professional. Steve hard Yeah, yeah,
it's nice. You know, he's uh heartman has more stories
than I do, and I love Heartmard, but I just does.
He's a fun guy. I was just telling the guys
in the back that guy knows everything about sports. And

(01:23:53):
if he just takes you down a path that you're
not ready to talk about, you just take him down
the other path. So I remember the first time I
filled with him, he said, oh, you're a Yukon guy hunt.
I said, yeah, he go, and we just started talking
about Gino Oriama on air for like six minutes. And
that's probably why I haven't done many shifts with him since.
But uh, but he's great man. He's really fun to
work with. I'm looking forward to it all right. Uh,

(01:24:13):
you know, I didn't get a chance to get to
this last hour. Lebron he's not gonna put a any
social injustice message um on his jersey. I believe eighty
por some of the NBA players I heard we'll have
some type of message. UM. When you think that Lebron
being the leader of the NBA should have a message
or is it really up to eat an individual uh

(01:24:35):
to make their choice in this case? Yeah, it's crazy
because on the one hand, I I'm not a big
believer that and and it's really funny. I was sitting
around today. I was I was away, but the uh,
the last Dance came on, and the segment of that
part where the Republicans buy sneakers too came on, and
Michael Jordan just basically said, I I never considered myself

(01:24:57):
an activist it. You know, I wasn't comfortable speaking about
a guy that I didn't know. And I'm one of
these people that feels like athletes shouldn't have to feel
like they have to force their opinions on us if
they don't have strong opinions or whatever. The thing with
Lebron though, is he does have a strong opinion on this.
He just wanted to have a different opinion and not
be told what to put on his jersey. And that's
exactly what I was gonna say. That's exactly what I

(01:25:19):
was gonna say. He's been very vocal. I mean, obviously
the causes that he is behind we can all get behind. Um.
But I did find it very interesting and as the
Sager actually referenced at the top of the show, um,
you know, it's it's stuff that you know, he felt
like he wanted different messages than the league approved ones.
I don't know if that's the whole reason. But I
did find that pretty interesting. I really did. All right

(01:25:39):
over to the NBA, Is this god be a bubble
going to work? Is this thing going to really work out?
Where you know, you have certain teams that are gonna
be separated for months on end from their from their family.
Is this they go to work out? Or we're gonna
have problems with this bubble. When you say workout, you
just mean like so many we're gonna be able to
get to the playoffs, I guess is what I mean
by working out? I think, Oh yeah, I mean listen, obviously,

(01:26:01):
people are coming from outside the bubble every day to
work at restaurants and hotels and that kind of stuff.
They're going on. The players are going on rides. You
know that, don't you. They're gonna be when the park
is closed late late at night, the players will have
free reid into the park to go on rights. Not
like there won't be any infection. I know they're gonna
spray everything now, but that doesn't mean you're gonna get
everything a hundred percent. I actually didn't hear that. Can

(01:26:24):
you believe that? Yeah? I saw today Sham's reported all
the DJs that are coming pool side some Arnie Spaniers
favorite DJs. But um yeah, I mean listen that that's
actually really interesting because you would think that if you
are trying to keep the players like out of harm's way,
that that could be something that happens. And and not
only that, but then you could get a cluster of

(01:26:45):
if people take the wrong ride. In theory, they could
all get it. Um but I think it's gonna work.
I think it's gonna work. The n b A is
taking I give Adam Silver credit. The protocols are insane.
Gregg Popovich said today that he feels like they if
his place he can be is the Bubble. So I
believe that it will go off, not without a hitch,
but that it will happen and that we will get

(01:27:06):
an NBA champions I'll give you the exact story. This
was a couple of days ago. It appears NBA players
at the Walt Disney World Bubble will get to take
in some of the theme parks signature attractions after all.
While players reportedly won't be getting access to the main park, uh,
the NBA and disney World will allow them to sign
up for After our experiences at Animal Kingdom, Expedition, Everest,

(01:27:32):
Hollywood Studios, Rock and roller Coaster that according to the league,
the memos in firms of players could book access to
several non ride activities while at the resort, including the
Palm Lake Buena Vista, the golf course of Magnolia, Uh,
luxury bowling lanes, past fishing excursions. So there's still gonna

(01:27:54):
be able to you know, when you thought that they
were gonna be quarantine, that's really the farthest from the truth.
You quarantine when you get to go to Animal Kingdom
and some rides and fishing and golf, that's that's quite
the quarantine, you know what I mean. Well, and it's
really interesting because if you remember all the rules that
are they remember if they're playing a game of cards,

(01:28:14):
they got to throw away the deck of cards and
what happened to that? Or you can throw away the
golf clubs. What's going on? That's what I'm saying. If
you remember, they can play video games, but they can't
wear a headset while they're playing video games. So did
you know this is this is a little too much.
I thought they were gonna go on a few rides.
They have like it's like they have the full thing
of those some of the parks out there, full right
of the parks. Don't forget that tiger at the Bronx

(01:28:35):
Zoo test deposit for coronavirus. So you can never be
too too careful. But uh, that is kind of crazy.
It is because the whole talk has been the concern
about people outside of the bubble coming in. It feels
like you're just upping the risk. But at the same time,
the counter is, as you just said, on these guys,
some of them are gonna be in this situation for
up to what two and a half months? You gotta

(01:28:56):
give him a little wiggle room and hope everything turns out. Okay,
what are we gonna start talking about which team has
the advantage? Um? You know, what kind of team are
you're looking forward into the playoffs? Because how much is
the shooting gonna be affected with no fans out there?
And by the way, what do these um these courts
look like? Is there like a curtain in between the
next one? Is there like a um, I don't know,

(01:29:20):
you know, those brick walls on the end of them
or something? What kind of you know, what kind of
courts are these? You know? Well, I'll tell you this.
I'm ready to start talking because we're what about two
and a half weeks away from starting this thing up. Uh,
And I think it's gonna be fascinating, And I think
there's so many variables, especially when you get to the
playoffs that people aren't talking about. You know, you just referenced, um,
you know who does it favor the younger teams or

(01:29:43):
the veteran teams. I saw Doc Rivers today said that,
you know, he's still not sure how he's gonna work
his veterans Kawhi Leonard, Paul George, etcetera. Uh, into the
lineup and how many minutes to start and all that
kind of stuff. So I just think it's gonna be
fascinating to see because I think it's kind of touch
and go. Everyone's gonna be kind of figuring it out,
and then you have to be prepared for filling the

(01:30:03):
blank player too unfortunately test positive and he or he
might get pulled out of the lineup at any point.
I feel like, for some reason, we're gonna see games
in the seventies. You think, so seventies eighties because they're
shooting is going to be so awful. Part of me
wants to say, give me the five youngest players on
the team. Give me the team that's got five young
players that have fresh legs, that are ready to run

(01:30:25):
up and down the court like they just don't care.
Get some easy buckets maybe they'll make or maybe that
team will make a run of things. I'm I'm wondering
if that's the type of team to take, or you
want a veteran team where they're gonna, you know, really
run the offense because points are gonna be the premium,
or maybe there will be a hundred more points because
there'll be no defense. I think the other way around though.
Well and and Bernie, who will talk to in a

(01:30:46):
few minutes here, said that one of his buddies in
Vegas believes that the teams with continuity, like the Raptors,
like the Bucks, have the advantage because the time off
won't impact them as much because they're so used to
playing together. I'm just fast, and I think you talk
to ten people, you get ten different answers as to
what's gonna matter and what's not. And I'm just listen.

(01:31:07):
I'll say this. I'm just excited to get basketball back
on the court. I said it earlier in the show,
I've been you say that about baseball, you say that
about hockey. Sorry, I'm just happy to get sports back. Sorry,
I'm a sports fan. Sorry, I enjoy what we do,
Arnie span here. Um, but it was really not funny.
But it was ironic this week because people were asking
me a lot about the college football stuff, and I
just said, point blank, this isn't even about my job.

(01:31:27):
You know me, Arnie, And you're the same way. I'll
sit on the couch and watch games all day, whether
we're doing this show or not. And so I love
college football, I love the n b A. I'm just
happy we're getting the NBA back, and I hope it's
the same with college football. I'm just wondering if we're
gonna be able to pull it off in the NBA.
I think at first, I wasn't really thinking that this
was the best solution with this whole bubble thing, especially

(01:31:49):
when I found out that baseball was going to do
the traveling and the fact that we really, you know,
you're only gonna play eight regular season games and then
we're gonna go right to the playoffs. In the NBA,
I'm like, we're gonna pull that off? From that very
limited traveling. We could have had it at home courts,
but even if we did that, there's no way, um
fans are gonna be allowed to go and and and

(01:32:09):
get into NBA arenas. I think they would have been
fanless anyway. Um So why not just do it in
the bubble? I'm guessing that Yeah, No, I have no
issues with the bubble at all, And it's not gonna
be perfect, and you can't keep you know, people that
are out from outside the bubble from coming in. That's
part of the deal. I think that the likelihood, I
think I feel safer with the idea that NBA players

(01:32:31):
will likely we won't get those crazy outbreaks as opposed
to baseball, because remember, baseball guys are gonna be on
the road. They're gonna be traveling in different parts of
the country, someplaces in the country. They're gonna be able
to go out to a bar after a game, gonna
be able to go out to restaurants and eat. So
that is the part that would concern me. Although obviously
baseball take protocols and priorities and stuff like that. But
I also believe that the NBA guys are probably gonna

(01:32:51):
be smarter and a little bit safer. And by the way,
thank you for the nine o'clock eastern late start. Boo,
Oh my good, what do you mean boo? I probably
get to be done. I get to be done at
uh what eleven thirty instead of what thirty star, which
means I've done at like one o'clock in the morning.
What's wrong with you? Guys? I'm watching MLS here at

(01:33:13):
what is it one fifteen Eastern time? Is that right?
We talked about it earlier. Let's just get the NBA
going twenty four hours a day. That's all I want.
But it's still good for you. That's still six Wait,
nine o'clock Eastern for the late NBA game is still
six o'clock on the West coast. That that's a perfect
time for you, guys. Uh you get people get off

(01:33:33):
work at five, go straight to well, I was gonna
say a sports bar. Those days are over. Still still
go home and you have time to watch the game
and catch it from the beginning, you know. And I
would like a game after that because I'm selfish and
I live on the West Coast and it's not too
I wouldn't mind a nine pm Pacific time start. But
for for you guys, for my goodness, it'll be fun,

(01:33:54):
be fun to kick my feet up in bed at
the end of the night and watch a little you know,
jazz Pelicans or whatever. But it ain't gonna happen to
the end. NHL is gonna go, uh have an all
day thing, you know, kind of like started up noon
Eastern and work, you know, play around the clock, uh
in in both cities, so you'll be able to. It's
kind of like the n C Double a tournament for
the NHL, though, So I like it that I'm in.

(01:34:17):
I'm in, and you know, and I will say for hockey,
it's a little bit of a different deal, right, we
don't generally watch hockey. They're gonna be now going up
against not only the NBA, but Major League Baseball and
eventually the NFL and hopefully college football. So anything you
can do, you can do to bring in fans that
wouldn't otherwise come in. I give him credit, man, I
give him credit, and hopefully, uh, you know, hopefully we

(01:34:39):
get to watch them hockey here right. Coming up next
the most popular segment on the show, Straight out of Vegas,
our buddy Bernie Fredo. He's coming up next right here
on Fox Sports Radio. I welcome back to the Fox
Sports Radio studios. This Smegament brought to you by Geico.
Let's get to our guest. He comes up at the
top of the hour. Love having him on Straight it

(01:35:00):
out of Vegas. It's our buddy, Bernie Freddow Bertie. How
is Vegas doing? Are you guys getting back okay? Or
is it a little slow? No, it's crowded. Valleys is
opening up next week and lots of folks are flocking
to town and some reason coming in their RVs. Aren't
he You know, I gotta tell you that r V story.
He really conjures up images of Randy Quaid and christmasfication.

(01:35:20):
Your brother doesn't have a dog named snots? Does he know?
He doesn't. But he's driving the nicest r V you're ever.
He had to get it ensured for like a million dollars,
not going in casey, in case he wrecks it. But
he's driving with a couple of buddies all the way
across country to Vermont and then back that way. Well,
he's rich. He's got a famous brother, infamous not famous burn.

(01:35:41):
So we let the show talk in Big Ten. Uh,
what what do you make of this news? You're from
Big ten country, you work for years in Michigan. What
do you make of this? And how does it affect
the betting markets? Well, it's interesting because now that we
know that most of the schools will have three less games,
will all play nine conference games. What has happened? I

(01:36:01):
talked to one of the professional services this week and
they've recalibrated, repower rated all the teams based on their
new schedules. And there's similar There's a couple of teams
I think you gotta pay attention to. One of them
is Michigan. Now, before this happened, whole story for another day.
But so Michigan's win total was nine and a half

(01:36:24):
before any of this happened. Now here's what's interesting. They
will no longer get to play Arkansas State or ball State,
and the game at Washington's off the radar now. So
their first game, if everything stands according to Hoyles at
this point, will be twenty September against Wisconsin. What Wisconsin

(01:36:44):
not only has fifteen starters back, including nine on defense,
they'll have already played a game versus Indiana on September four,
so they'll have one under their belt. Meanwhile, the Wolverines,
they're going to replace their quarterback, two running backs, two
wide receivers, and four their five offensive linemen are gone,
so they're extremely inexperience that they've got to jump right

(01:37:05):
into the fire against a very experienced team. So in
these new Power ratings projected wind totals, Michigan's win total
projection is four and a half. Now, I think when
they recalibrate the totals, I fell still think they're gonna
probably hang AU six. So Michigan go have to go
six and three to push seven and two to go over.

(01:37:25):
That looks like a really solid underto me based on
what has just transpired. Conversely, Ernie Rutgers seven team starters back,
and they're projected win total might be two, and they've
got Indiana, Illinois, Nebraska all at home, and that those
three projected wind totals are cumulative eleven between them. So
I think what you're going to have is a situation

(01:37:48):
where these experienced teams, these teams that bring back starters
and the continuity that we've talked about with other sports.
He's really going to affect the Big Ten, particularly Michigan.
What about the Irish? What well, first of all, six
six games against the a c C team? Uh? Do
they join the a c C. Will people bet on
them to win the conference? Um? Uh? Now, all of

(01:38:11):
a sudden, it's a much easier schedule for for the
Irish one. It's all said and done, there are way
too many unknowns and the Irish have a real problem
because they're not in the conference. And b Y U
same situation. Five of their games were against the Big
Ten and the Pac twelve, and so since both of
those conferences have announced that they're only gonna play conference games,

(01:38:31):
you know, I don't know what b Y is gonna do.
They've got to scramble here At un l V, they
had two games they were gonna host kal in Arizona State.
Now those are both off the board. And here's what
I don't get, because I can't get a straight answer.
I will was supposed to play Iowa State. Those two
schools are hundred forty miles apart. It's canceled. I has
to transfer travel the Rutgers that's thirte miles away. What's
the logic? My great fear, My great fear is what's

(01:38:55):
driving this is the fear of liability, and now that
the dominoes have started to fall, I don't know where
this ends up. We're gonna follow it next week. I'm
gonna have a guest on from the Pack twelve and
we're gonna take a deep dive into this because not
only was this this decision made very early on July nine,
but you're starting to see the domino effect already, and
everybody's afraid. They're afraid. They don't want to have none

(01:39:18):
of us do a tragedy on their watch, and that's
what's driving this whole thing. Totally agree, Burn. What else
you got in terms of what is going on in
the sports world right now? There's so much going on.
I'll just lobby lobby to you because we got the
MLS on, we got baseball coming back, NBA coming back.
What are you looking out for right now? Well, certainly baseball.

(01:39:39):
I'm gonna talk a lot of baseball tonight and how
to navigate this season due to its length, The rule
changes the importance of a fast start, how pitching is
gonna be managing that kind of stuff. But the biggest
story that continues to drive here in Vegas, it happened
ten days ago, and I'm sure you heard about it,
and it's what you know, it's what I would call that.
Don't do that. Don't be that guy. This is serious business,

(01:40:01):
and you heard about the situation where fifty bets were
placed at MGM properties after the games had already been started.
Let me give you the backstory. By the way, let
me give me the story, because this is really serious
business and no one's really taking it deep. And I
want to get a little granular here. I can tell
you years ago. Let me just set this up. Years ago,

(01:40:22):
I was sitting in the sports book at the M
and the Spurs and we're playing the Kings, and there
was a halftime bet and the under and a couple
of gabrones behind me noticed that the game had started
in the second half, but they hadn't taken it off
the board yet, and it was almost to the end
of the third quarter and the game was sailing under.
So they go, they both go to the window and

(01:40:43):
they place limit bets, which I think we're about five
dollars at the time, and the game is going under
round a round. Also in the sports book, manager notices
it calls him up, asked for their I D s
and he's gonna ban them. They'll they'll pay the beat
if it hits. Ironically, what happened was the game ended
up going over time and the game went over, so
they lost their bet. So cheaters never prosper. Right, Well,
here's the deal. These cheaters did prosper last week the

(01:41:06):
MGM resorts the but most of the bets were at
the Blagio. They allowed nearly a quarter of a million
dollars in winning wagers to be placed after games had
already started. Now, how does this happen? Okay, here's how
it happens because the business next. Yeah, well, the businesses
still run by human beings, and all the rotation numbers
and all the games and the lines and the start

(01:41:26):
times all that must be manually loaded. And the bets
were placed because the incorrect start times were posted on
most of these Chinese and Korean of Korean baseball games
due to manual entry errors. What's interesting is when they
went to research it and one person played a ten
team parlay for two d and fifty dollars and every
game hit and he got he's gonna collect a hundred

(01:41:49):
and thirty seven thousand dollars, and many of those games
were already in the sixth or seventh inning. And what
happened was when they started to investigate it. And by
the way, these bets are all placed itself served kiosks
in the ballaggio between one thirty and three am. And
because in the sports book was closed and all of
those games and questions started between one and one thirty,

(01:42:12):
so they had to jump on it. So the Nevada
Gaming officials have opened up an investigation. No one's commenting
on it yet, and you know, the book is probably
gonna have to pay these bets out because there's some
contributory negligence on their part and and according to a
regulation five, it says the book cannot unilaterally resent any

(01:42:32):
wanger without the prior wit and approval of the chairman
of the board. So they're gonna get paid. But I
will tell you executives and other sports books, this got
their attention, and they spoke anonymously about you know, pass
posting and what kind of in trouble you can get
yourself in and one of the one of the executives,
and these guys should be fully prosecuted because it's like

(01:42:53):
going to the casino cage and sticking a gun in
their face. Well, it's not quite like that they're gonna
be banned, but because it's considered that what they did
was pure theft, so that story kind of continues to rate.
But to your point, Aaron, we are going to expect
it to get extremely busy. Here we're twelve days away
from actual baseball. It's been two hundred and sixty seven

(01:43:14):
days since they played a regular season baseball game, and
I can tell you that opening night doubleheader with the
Nationals and Yankees with Garrett Colean Max Shears, or followed
by the Dodgers and Giants. People are already lining up. Bertie.
First of all, are they running to the window for
future bets for baseball and the NBA? Or is it
on the downside um because of what has been going on?

(01:43:36):
No baseball, Yes, very much so NBA. No. You there
are a lot of totals bets being placed out there,
and one sharp guy I know put put placed in
over on the Tigers at games because you've got a
bunch of young rookie right, you can get out of
the gate fast and they have an easy schedule. The
first couple of weeks so the long and the short
of it is part of It's a guest, but you

(01:43:57):
try to find market inefficiencies out there. We have a
lot of data on baseball now, so there's enough or
the type of data that would cause someone who does
their homework to be able to find that edge. The NBA,
we're not there yet, although I will say this, I
love the Clippers game one over the Lakers right now
to pick him. I've also seen it at minus one.
I absolutely think the Lakers are gonna miss it. Every

(01:44:19):
Bradley defensive stud brings a lot of attitude and the
game that uh, the Lakers beat the Clippers before Covid hit,
Bradley hit six three pointers, so they're gonna miss him. Frankly,
I don't think there's a lot of motivation on the
Lakers in those eight games. They're over under one of
the professional better I know in town loves the under

(01:44:39):
a five and a half. He doesn't think the Lakers
will win more than he doesn't think they'll go six
and two in those eight games. If they lose the
first one of the Clippers, he figured they're gonna mail
it in on the last one. They'd have to win
all six in a row for that game to go over.
So there's one professional betters tip. He likes the under
five and a half for the Lakers and total wins
in those eight games before the playoffs starts. I love that.

(01:45:02):
I love that, all right, Bertie, Always a pleasure. We'll
be listening at the top of the hour straight out
of Vegas. Can't wait, my friend. Always love having you on. Hey,
great job last week in my time slot. You had
the highest ratings ever. Thank you for Straight out of Vegas. Yeah,
you owe me for that. Now you gotta go ahead
and put me up in a big suite and all
that stuff. You know that, right, I'm waiting for you.

(01:45:23):
Ferdie Fratto coming up at the top of the hour,
straight out of Vegas. Let's see what's trending. Checking with
Steve the Sega. What's going on to It's not in Vegas,
it's in Abu Dhabi again. One am Eastern equals nine
am in Abu Dhabi. The fight started well before dawn
and Sunday morning in the United Arab Emirates for u
f C two fifty one to accommodate pay per view
here in North America. It's the finale Kamaru Usman welterweight

(01:45:47):
champ in the third round. Right now, he's sixteen and
one going up against Jorge Mosvidal, who apparently took a
low blow and just had to walk it off. Mosvidal
getting his first UFC title shot flying over there on
about a week's notice at the age of thirty five,
but Brazil's Gilbert Burns was going to fight but tested
positive for coronavirus last week. Mosvidal thirty five and thirteen,
a former backyard brawler in his native Miami. Just before this,

(01:46:11):
a late surge helps Alexander Volkanovsky, featherweight champ, win a
close split decision in his first title defense. He goes
to twenty two and one, beating X champ Max Holloway controversially,
according to some on Twitter, Holloway it also lost a
decision to him last December. Petter jan fifteen and one
with a win. Rosnama Junas Amanda Rebus on this card

(01:46:31):
with a victory. Sunday's NASCAR race will be on FS
one from Kentucky to thirty pm Eastern Time. Chants of Rain.
The Truck's Race in Kentucky was tonight, also on FS one,
and that was shortened by rain. Tomorrow, Kyle Bush will
start from the poll in the Cup race. Lineups these
days are determined by random draw. Tonight on FS well
and it has ended. It's what one thirty in the

(01:46:52):
morning in Orlando and still over humidity, but Columbus wins
for nothing over FC Cincinnati, still playing like an expansion team.
Before this on the same field, there was a weather
delay of forty five minutes at the start. Eventually New
York Red Bulls one on Fox one nothing over Atlanta. Remember,
both Nashville and Dallas had to withdraw from Major League

(01:47:13):
Soccer's month long tournament after positive virus tests and weather
news this weekend. For the golf in Ohio. We'll talk
about the celebrity golf in a minute, but Justin Thomas
leads the PGA event by two strokes in double and Ohio.
Tomorrow's final round has been moved up the start times
due to the forecast chance of thunderstorms. Ricky Fowler, after

(01:47:33):
a sixty six today, moved up in the standings to
a tie for eighth place. Well Houston Astros canceled today's
workout for precautionary reasons. The staff member may have been
exposed to the virus. Yankees closer Arolda's Chapman tested positive
for coronavirus, so he's now away from training camp. He
says he has mild symptoms. That Yankee opener is less
than two weeks away at Washington, the Dodgers that night

(01:47:55):
due to host the Giants. Dodger closer Kennley Jansen still
hasn't been seen at l A practices. By the way,
Lebron James will be one of the few NBA players
this summer not to wear a jersey that has a
social justice message. He says he would have loved to
have had a say in the nearly thirty message options
that players can choose from The Detroit Pistons former home,
the Palace of Auburn Hills, was imploded this morning and

(01:48:16):
had opened but was sold a year ago. Demolition on
the facility started in marched their plans to turn the
space into offices. The Pistons moved into a new arena
in along with the Detroit Red Wings. By the way,
in Orlando, one week of NBA exhibition games begins a
week from Wednesday. We're not that far off from basketball
and baseball. Maybe going at the same time, the update

(01:48:38):
on the celebrity golf they have every year at Lake Tahoe.
It's a former tennis player who's now in the lead,
Marty Fish. But right behind him as former Buffalo Bill's
defensive tackle Kyle Williams and near three hundred pounder who
could become the first lineman to win this event, which
has been around at least thirty years. But the guy
who took the lead, Marty Fish, had such a great round.

(01:48:59):
You know, the scoring system on this it's a point system.
You get a point if you par the hole, or
if you double bogey you lose points and so forth.
I'm just saying that he shot a course record in
regular golf terms of a sixty three today. The previous
course record was sixty four by Lee Trevino. That's that's
how good a day this guy had. But the big

(01:49:21):
defensive tackle is just behind him now. John Smoltz didn't
like his putting, so he's a distant third place, tied
for forth Tony Romo, Del Curry and Derek low Uh
Steph Curry is just outside the top ten. But as
far as the name, Tony Romo has won this last
couple of years, he has a bad risk, so he
did not golf well today. He did wind up finishing

(01:49:42):
the round. So who's at the bottom? These are the
bottom four. Catherine Tappen, who's in the event I believe
because she works for the network, who is carrying it?
Then DeMarcus Ware, Then Charles Barkley is seventy place. Dead
last is still Eddie George. Barkley is at minus fifty points.

(01:50:02):
Eddie George at minus fifty three. Going into tomorrow's final rush,
I wonder if they could cheat. Welcome back to the
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one eight nine four seven auto. The only hard part
figuring out which way is easier. You're a Vegas guy,

(01:50:24):
you go there a lot? Are you what game do
you like? The player you know? Are you a blackjack guy?
Crabs roulette? What game do you like to play? I
like to play sit by the pool with a bucket
of beer. That's game. And then I come off at sports.
I'm a sports guy too, so but this last time,
I mean, dude, you know we hadn't you. You couldn't

(01:50:45):
go outside for like three months prior to when I
just left. So my buddy and I spent a lot
of time at the pool, just relaxing. If I have
to play a table game, I'll throw a little bit
on roulette here and there. But I'm more of a
bet sports kind of guy, because I'm one of those
dummies that thinks I have an edge even though I
really don't. Yeah, I I You see, my problem is,
I'll go bet everything. If I'm walking by a roulette table,

(01:51:08):
I'll throw in a twenty dollar chip there, or if
i'm you know, see a poker table that so, but
let me just get a couple of hands in or
you know, I I can't walk by. It takes me
like an hour to walk out of a casino because
I'm stopping, and then we play the slot machine for
five minutes. You know, I gotta play every game out there.
It's better than when you live there and your coworker
would just steal your paycheck every weekend, cashing and spending himself.

(01:51:28):
We in case people don't know what I'm talking about.
When I lived in Vegas, I work for a network
um producers didn't really produce your show, they didn't get
your guests or anything like that. They would take your
paycheck cashing for you and bring it back to you. Um,
one of our update guys cast one of our host
paycheck and instead of bringing it back decided to make
a stop at the blackjack table first. That did not

(01:51:51):
work out very well for him. Um, when he came
back with no money on that. Can you imagine your
paycheck completely gone to somebody who gambled it away on
black chack? Gotta try, You gotta know who to trust,
you know, no one to hold him, no one to
fold him. I guess it's called Vegas. My friend MLB
Mike is Mike Trout gonna be one of those guys
that's going to say, I'm gonna go ahead and sit

(01:52:11):
this one out. I'm not gonna go ahead and make
up these sixty games. I'll just go ahead and leave
it up to you guys. Or um, do you think
he's gonna go in? You know his wife is having
a baby, and obviously money is not an issue with him.
Do you think he's gonna go ahead and and maybe
take the season offer? Is he gonna go and show
up with his team, so it sounds like he's gonna
show up. So it's funny because, like forty five minutes ago,

(01:52:32):
I said, I don't criticize anybody people with young families,
but Mike Trout was one of the guys. As our
producer Eric Roberts pointed out on Twitter this week, Mike
Trout was mr. Uh, Mr tell us when and where,
and we're gonna show up ready to play during these negotiations. Eric,
I don't know if you have anything to chime in on,
but you were the one that pointed out, so I
want to give you credit to that. Man. Yeah, it's

(01:52:53):
definitely one of those things where you know, what have
you done for me lately? I feel Yeah, I just
think if you're gonna if you're gonna be Mr Union guy,
and I'm supporting my guys, when and where tell us
when and where? Well, when it's when and where time,
you better show up there. That's all I'm saying. So
you're you're you think he deserves criticism if he doesn't
go um because his wife's having a baby, that's that's

(01:53:14):
not a good enough excuse for you, or because he
said I think the tweets just pretty shallow to be honest.
I mean, if you're not you know, if if it's
about I mean, it was clearly about trying to make
the players Union look good during their negotiations. But if
you know in the back of your head that you're
not sure you want to go, I just don't think
it's the best look for you, that's all. How many

(01:53:35):
more players are you think you're going to opt out? Um?
And do you think any really like big superstars are
gonna say? You know what, I've changed my mind. I'm
not coming in. I'm done with this, you know. I
mean baseball, Look how many guys are on the roster.
I mean it's normally twenty five, but it's gonna be more.
It's gonna be up to fifty, I believe. Yeah, I
think players will. I'm not going to be short on players,

(01:53:56):
That's that's for sure. I mean, David Price was last week.
He's one of the highest paid players in the league.
And I do think other guys are because, like you said, Arnie,
it's a sixty game season. Um. I don't want to
say this because nobody like Trout or Curse Saw or
anybody like that. Yet nobody with or Cole or with
a name like that, though, I mean David Price is
a pretty big name. I mean it's what does he
want a couple of Cy Young's. I mean, he's a

(01:54:18):
pretty big name. Slowdown on that, and to time has
passed him by. Um, he was gonna be what a
three starter for I believe the Dodgers. But his best
years were way behind them, no doubt about that. A
L S. I Young Award winner. And he makes thirty
plus million dollars a year. So to me, uh, he's

(01:54:38):
still If you're making thirty plus million dollars a year,
you're a pretty big name. But yeah, but he signed
the two what subthing contract? Hundred million dollar contract? Uh,
I think he's got a lot of that. Now he'd
go without one paycheck huh that one one years paycheck? Well,
you know, no, I know, but I listen. I think
guys are gonna pull out, and I think it's okay,
and we have to respect that this is a unique situation. Um,

(01:55:00):
these are unique circumstances. It's a unique season. As a
general rule, like I said an hour or so ago,
I'm not going to criticize anybody that feels like they
either want to be with their family or they're not
comfortable or whatever the case. Maybe, Yeah, I got a
feeling that we're going to see a couple of more
as we get closer to the season. Um, maybe people
who already there saying, you know what, this isn't for me.
I'm not I'm not thinking this. Or if we do

(01:55:21):
have an explosion of of of cases, you know, inside
a team, maybe then more players are saying, you know what,
we've got it bad here. We're just gonna shut it down.
That's what I'm worried about, you know. Yeah, No, it's
it's gonna be a fascinating thing to watch here over
these next couple of weeks because, um, because we are
I think we're gonna see in real time that, as

(01:55:42):
we've seen in all these sports, there are gonna be
positive tests, and it'll be fascinating to see how baseball
handles it. Because of the travel, it's a totally different
deal than certainly the NBA, certainly the MLS, and we're
gonna see positive tests. It'll be fascinating see how it
all plays out. Right, We got some predictions to get
to that's coming up next as we end up the
show right here on Fox Sports Radio. I welcome back

(01:56:06):
to the Fox Sports Radio studios. This segment brought to
you by Geico. I love all the love. Does that
make sense? Oh? The glove we get on Twitter, it's fantastic.
People just love us, Torres, I mean they love me.
But yeah, continue continued. Well, Dan, I gotta read the compliments,
don't I, Dan says, um stinking genius. Do everybody a

(01:56:27):
favor and take the rest of the next year off.
Like Buster Posey, you washed a pack that's pretty good. Well,
thank you, Thank you, Dan. I I appreciate you like
Buster Posey, except Buster Posey was pretty good at some point.
I'm yeah, I'm gonna could I take that as a compliment.
I think I could probably turn that into a compliment.
You're right, Buster Posey a long time a great player. Um,

(01:56:49):
I could take that as a compliment. Nothing wrong with that.
You could. I don't think you probably should, but you could.
For I'm a positive guy. You know that Mr Glasses
have fol yet. Uh TND says the Sager is too
Opinionatedcu the Sager's too opinionated to still be lacking a
Twitter account. What's the deal? Yeah, I think he'd gets

(01:57:10):
so much backlash, you would um make him curl up
in the corner and the fetal position and and cry
himself to sleep. So I don't think he wants to
get on Twitter, you know. I mean, I think he's
on Twitter. He just hasn't told anybody what his account
is because he's got to follow the news. So he's
on Twitter. It's just a matter of what the handle
is size. I don't even know. I've been working with
the guy for thirty five years. I don't know his

(01:57:32):
Twitter handle. I mean, I think Twitter has only been
around for about ten of those so we've been around
before Twitter. And I mean you were around before, like
you know, into a plumber. Yes, exactly. Alright, let's get
to some predictions. Give me a little music, put me
in the mood. I want to start with this, uh
Aaron a c C football, Big twelve football, SEC football?

(01:57:53):
Will they all go the way of the pack twelve,
Big ten with the only conference only? Gay? Do all
three say yes? All three say no? Or is it
gonna be a mixture? I think a CEC is gonna
go conference only. I think Big twelve will do excuse
to be Big twelve in SEC will do what they
want on their own because travel is not as bad.

(01:58:14):
Chris Planks sold me on the Big Twelve because you're
talking about there's only nine conference games that you can
can possibly have, UM, and so you only you don't
you want to play at least ten. So, as you said,
Missouri State, they're trying to move that game up, Oklahoma
trying to move there there. They're opener up because of it.
I think the other conferences, at least the Big Twelve

(01:58:34):
in SEC, play out of conference games. Right. A couple
of questions here, this Major League Baseball actually gets started
on the sixty game season, Do they make it through
the sixty games? And do we actually get a World
Series winner? Or no way, no, how does that happen?
All right? Rob Parker? No way, no how? Um yeah, no,
we're gonna play this season. And there is too much
at stake here, especially from a money perspective. It's not

(01:58:56):
gonna look the way that it normally does. We know that, UM,
But I believe we're gonna have a season. We're gonna
have a World Series CHAMPI even if it's not the
traditional sense, I think we're gonna have a season. I'm
worried if we're going to finish the season and get
into the playoffs because we're worried about the travel. Is
that what it is? Well, the travel, and then if
things do get bad, the first thing you cut out

(01:59:17):
is travel, and that would end Major League Baseball, you
know what I'm saying. Then you're done with that. Yeah.
I I can't argue with that from that perspective, Army,
because of the fact that there is so much more
travel involved with that sport than any other ones. Now
the end NBA, there's no travel. So if things knock
wood do get out of hand in Florida like it is,

(01:59:38):
as long as it doesn't penetrate that bubble, they should
be Okay. I think the NBA gets through their eight games,
gets into the playoffs, gets through the playoffs, that we
get an NBA champion. Um. We may hear about more
players eating crappy lunches and dinners, but I think they
make it through their torres. Yeah. I think the NBA,
no doubt. And I listen, there's going to be positives,

(02:00:01):
as we've discussed throughout the show. You we're not going
to keep people out of the bubble. Um, But I
believe that the NBA will crown a champion. It's gonna
be different. We get that, but I believe, yes, we
will get a champion. Is hockey going to get going?
I mean, they have their two host cities. They said
they're going to play round the not round the clock,
but they're gonna start at noon Eastern. Um. They've come

(02:00:25):
out with the times, they've come out with how they're
playing the host cities. But yet I still got a
good feeling. I'm not so sure we're gonna get those
things started there, Taures, Really you feel like hockey, of
all of them, is your biggest concern, not the biggest concern.
I just like feel like they're not telling us something.
There's something that I feel they're keeping away from us,
you know. I guess I think the counter to that

(02:00:48):
is I think they made a pseudo smart move by
going to Canada. I'm not trying to be political, but
the case numbers are down over there. I think it
makes sense. I think they're gonna play. I can't tell
you who's the face ever to win the Cup, but
I think, like these other sports, we get a champion.
Right last thing, the fans they will go back to baseball,

(02:01:08):
they will go to college football, they will go to
the NFL. Or are a lot of them going to
be hesitant and say, uh, not this year. I'll wait
till I think that Major League Baseball. I just think
once you start a season, it's hard. I do believe, uh,
the NFL will have fans. That's the only one that's

(02:01:28):
gonna be my prediction. NFL has fans college football. No,
they're supposed to have a Uh. I thought some fans. No,
I believe you want to see it. Maybe I have
the easiest to keep separated too. It seems that way. Yeah,
I I thought it was the deal where the players
that weren't playing were allowed to sit in the stands.

(02:01:49):
I haven't heard anything. Yeah, I haven't heard anything that
fans will be back. But you know, it's touching go.
These things are changing by the day, unfortunately, but that's
the reality of it. Thanks to the crew, Laker on
our technically technical director of course, Eric Roberts, our producer,
to Seger on the updates for my partner Aaron Torres.
I'm back tomorrow with Chris Plank eleven, Peter Too a

(02:02:09):
Eastern When do you fill it in door as quickly?
Steve Hartman ten am or ten am Pacific one pm
Eastern Tomorrow. Bernie next here on Fox Sports or Radio. Well,
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