FOX Sports Sunday with Hartman and Torres: 07/19/2020

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Weren't you just on the year? I was. I feel

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like I never left. To be honest, I was on
with Arnie span your eleven Eastern Time last night. We
talked about probably the exact same things we're gonna talk
about today. But America apparently can't get enough of Torres.
It's not my you know, whatever the bosses tell me
to be here. They say America is clamoring for me.
I'm not gonna not show up. Okay, let me ask

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you this. You've been doing many shows with Arnie and
you've done several shows of me. Would you say that
we are different people? Would I tell Arnie what I've
told him the last two Saturdays is that it's really
refreshing to do a show with a professional. There you go,
that is that is coming from tours right there. Talking
about the comparison of Hartman and Spanish aren't you know

(01:05):
I love you? You You know I love you? Listening right now?
I told you he is constantly texting me. All right,
during the middle of the show, I didn't even check.
You know, I got a lot of things to do here.
I'm not checking my phone throughout the show today. All right.
We got a lot of things going on, you know that.
As we are now just four days away from opening

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day in Major League Baseball. Four days away, we have
exhibition NBA games starting this week. Yes, we also have
training camps opening this week in the National Football League.

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All right, So to say that this coming week is
a big week, it is the gross understatement of all time.
Because we in America, we that are part of the sport,
it's universe in this country have been dying. And I'm
talking about the death that you suffer when you operate
under a sports calendar that's been erased for four months.

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So now the question is how do we handle what's
coming at us and how long will it last. Let's
start with Major League Baseball. Let's get right to it.
Major League Baseball. This weekend we had some exhibition games.
We also had the big story coming from Canada that

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the Toronto Blue Jays will not be the Toronto Blue
Jays in there is no Toronto. They may be the
Buffalo Blue Jays, but they will not be the Toronto
Blue Jays. So when you see something like that happened
Aaron where and you had to see this one coming
that Canada is like, no, we're not playing along with

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this idea of teams traveling into our country to the
Blue Jays in an empty stadium. You're gonna have to
find an alternate route. Um. Is that a forewarning of
worse things to come from Ajor League Baseball or is
it just an anomaly based on this one franchise that's

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located in Canada. Yeah, it was really interesting because, as
you reference being on air last night, Arnie Spanier thought
this was a huge deal. And what I was telling
him was I was actually supposed to be in Las
Vegas this weekend. I had a little weekend getaway planned
and my buddy had to cancel. But we have some
friends from Canada that we're coming right around this time,
and we were kind of texting them throughout this process,

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and about six weeks ago they said, there is no
way they're letting us into your country right now. And
so to me, it doesn't feel like that big of
a deal. I mean, you know, we talked about the
divide from state to state, region to region within this
own country. Well, now we're asking Canada to welcome teams
back and forth across the border. Not only the Toronto

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Blue Jays, who obviously will be playing there and be
based out of there, or in theory, would be, but
now the Tampa Bay Rays, the New York Yankees, the
Boston Red Sox, all these different municipalities, all these different
areas of the country, different hot spots, low spots, whatever.
I don't blame the country of Canada for saying sorry
for two months, because, by the way, we only have
a two month regular season in baseball. Figure it out

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somewhere else. Yeah, and so they probably they have a
Triple A affiliate in Buffalo, it would seem. And again,
what is the difference. I mean, you don't have fans
anyway for Major League Baseball now, And that, by the way,
is another reason why I don't think it's as big
of a deal if they had to play in a
Triple A stadium with eighteen thousand people while the Yankee

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Stadium is packing forty five or fifty and that's a
different deal. But when no there's no fans in the stands,
I don't think it matters much for the mean to
cut you off. The good news, there's a couple of
good things from Major League Baseball though. They have this
new wave of testing, thousands and thousands of tests five positives,
so they seemed at least during that wave, have some
kind of hold uh. And remember Baseball is operating on

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the honor system. It's gonna be tricky when teams are traveling,
but remember it's gonna be analyis versus a l E's Central, Central,
West West. They'll keep it as regional as possible. Sixty
games in sixty six days. I'll tell you one of
the big surprises that I've seen Aaron pitching. Now, we
we really thought when you have a four month layoff,

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and the only reason spring training is as long as
it is is that you've got to get the pictures
ready for the season. But despite a four month layoff,
we are seeing in these inner squad games and now
some of these exhibition games, pictures going five six innings,
throwing ninety pitches plus It's like I thought that they
were gonna have like three or four inning starters for

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a few weeks and then maybe they'll start, you know,
getting into it. I mean I saw the other day
Cling Krishaw with the Dodgers six and a third, eleven strikeouts,
ninety pitches, throwing some pretty good heat. See that you
seem to be ready. I never really understood that philosophy though.
I mean, I understand in theory, right, is that you know,
you have to work to build up arm strength, but

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this is a sixty game sprint to the finish. Some
of these guys are on the last year of their contracts.
Some of these guys might not make it anyway. So
it's almost like the playoff conversation on steroids over a
two month period, three month period instead of a one
month period of what are you gonna save that arm
tomorrow for? There might be no tomorrow. So I never

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really understood that argument that once the regular season games
started at oh, you know, we can't throw this guy
more than three innings, and it's like, dude, we got
some games to win. We don't have April, May and
June to screw around, get to the All Star break
and pick things up. So I don't know that I'm
really surprised that this is happening all right now. This
is for Gavin, who of course is a very well

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known gambler, and he's engaged in deep conversation right now.
But one thing I would say. I would talking to
somebody who runs a sports book, and I said, how
are those future bets? He goes, what future bets? Anybody
that puts down future bets on any of these sports
is out of your mind. Let me give you a
prime example, baseball wise, the Angels. The Angels right now

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have a player you might have heard of him, and
they might trout, and his wife is expecting their first child.
It is a hundred percent that when that baby is closed,
he's leaving. Now when that is, I'm not exactly sure.
And when he comes back, if he comes back, that

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is not certain. There. That is the biggest problem right now.
I don't know if it's a problem. It's just where
we're at with this current crisis about players coming and
going once the season begins. So when we say baseball
is back almost not here yet, but whence the season begins,

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and this will hold true for the n b A, NFL,
any other sport that it's underway, everyone keeps talking about, well,
what if there's a new wave of positive cases. Well,
in some ways they're prepared for that because there's always
other guys. You're never gonna be able to replace quality
for quality, but you can replace bodies. If somebody has

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to be out for a couple of weeks, there's plenty
guys ready to enter the bubble for a paycheck. Believe me,
so that that they're replaceable. But it does affect how
these seasons go. So when we look at you know,
the Dodgers of the favorites to win a World Series,
or the Lakers are a favorite to win the NBA Championship,
there is so much unknown right now. Aaron that trying

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to make any prediction, don't do I'll beg you, Gavin,
I am begging you, do not put any of your
money on future bets. Do not. I mean it would.
I literally talk to a guy that runs of sports
book this week and he goes, anybody that puts money
down on a futures bet is literally insane because trying

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to predict who's gonna be playing out there. I agree,
but have some money tight in on the Clippers winning
m v P. Now that won't happen. Okay, so they're
holding your money until the end of the season, which,
by the way, may never happen. Yes, why would you
do that? Because you like having a little, a little

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something something going on here. Come on, nobody just watches
a Pelicans Blazers game anymore. You gotta have a little,
just a little, just a little. That's fine day to day.
I gave, but the idea of having somebody hold your
money on who's gonna win the World Series, who's gonna
win the NBA Championship, who's gonna win the Super Bowl?
When you don't even know there's going to be one,
there's gonna be one. We're gonna get all our sports

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in because we know, maybe not the college sports, which
I'm a little worried about we'll probably talk about throughout
the show, but the professional sports. There's too much money
for them not to be played, too much money to
be lost for them not to be played. And oh,
by the way, you just mentioned the most important part.
We're never gonna run out a player. I don't know.
You know again, I do a different show, But you're

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betting on players that are playing. Now. Suddenly Mike Trott
is replaced by some double a guy as your center fielder,
and you're like, well, my money was on the Angels
because of Mike Trout, not to this guy name. Well,
we don't know what's gonna happen with with players, you know,
testing positive either. I do have some money on the Colts.
I have to be loyal to my boy, Philip Rivers.

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I had them on the over of wind totals. I
think it was like nine. Alright, what if Philip Rivers
is not there and Brissett is your quarterback or somebody
else is there. Look, that money is already there. It's
already done. Now, isn't Chad Kelly now with the Colts?
I think he's the He said he was the second
second fastest quarterback in the league. Did you see that?
He said he's the second fastest quarterback in league behind

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Lamar Jackson. He's running from the cops quite a few times.
Oh too soon? What about Jacob Easton? Do we like him? No?
He's not being a Super Bowl? How many? How many
Final four did he make this year? I will get
to all those stats coming up. All right, we're in
the guy, go Fox Worts Radio Studios, the National Football League.
This is the biggest, biggest hurdle the National Football League.

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This is the week when training camps are opening up,
and there are several players that are not happy with
the game plan. We'll give you an update coming up next.
Steve Harman, Aaron tours with you on this Sunday, We're
coming alive from the get go Fox Sports Radio Studios.
So back in March, when the shutdown began and we had,

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you know, spring training come to a halt, the NBA
season come to a halt, March madness canceled an HL
season shut down. The NFL was almost laughing because they said, well,
here's the great news. We don't have to make any decisions.
Our season's way down the road. So while the rest

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of you and so they eated with free agency, they
went through with the draft. Everything was fine for the NFL.
We're fine, we have plenty of time. Time is run out,
and at no point leading up to what this week is,
which is the opening up of training camps in the NFL,
they had no game plan nothing. In fact, they finally

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put out a document that was distributed a players personnel, coaches,
staff and everybody else. They had a very vague outline
of the dudes and don'ts for the National Football like,
all of which, by the way, on paper, seem not achievable.
So you got players like Drew Brees saying, is this

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like a joke? Like this is your game plan on
us reporting the training camp next week? None of this
is going to fly, So, Aaron, the thing about the
NFL is there's an arrogance about the NFL, and in
some ways it's well founded when you are the number
one programming on all four major networks, when you have

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more money flowing in, and by the way, those television
contracts next year, the new deals. Last year, the NFL
pulled in a net profit of sixteen billion dollars for
a single season. Already, Jerry Jones had predicted we're gonna
be up to fifty billion dollars in that profit. So

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can the NFL get away with their arrogant stance on everything?
But whatever rules apply to you do not apply to us.
Can they actually pull that off? Player? The players don't
seem to think so. And that was the kind of
stunning part to me, right like, like, and I've said

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this a lot the last couple of weeks. It's really funny.
It's been in vogue the last couple of days to
criticize Mark Emirate, the leader of the n c A.
I was doing that three weeks ago, like where is
the leadership? Whereas the accountability? And the one thing I'll
say about Adam Silver, the commissioner of the NBA, he
was out in front. He was answering questions. Sometimes he
was taking questions that he didn't have answers too. But

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it's clear that as the NBA players are now in
the bubble, a lot of thought went into all of this.
And so the idea that training camp is about to
open and you literally have NFL head coaches that aren't
sure how many people are allowed in the building, what
day exactly am I supposed to bring my guys? And
what day h am I supposed to bring my assistance back.

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It's unbelievable to me, and I think because we're so
you know, excited about the return of the NBA, return
of the Major League Baseball, that this kind of flew
under the radar where all of a sudden, uh, rookies
are reporting this week for the Chiefs and the Texans,
they open up the season, and all of a sudden,
we don't know what's going on. It's unbelievable with me.

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The collective bargaining agreement was reached. Remember off season new tenure,
collective bargaining ream and in place. I can tell you
this from my own experience work in the NFL back
in the season when the players went on strike and
we had the replacement games, when twenty eight teams had
exactly one week to replace their entire rosters and then

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the following week be back on the field. The NFL
really doesn't care what the players do. Russell Wilson wrote this,
I'm concerned. My wife is pregnant. NFL training camp is
about to start. There's still no clear plan on player
health and family safety. We want to play football, but
we also want to protect our loved ones. You know
what the NFL answers to you, Russell Wilson, Hey, if
you don't want to play, fine, because we're not gonna

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pay you. If you don't play, that's your choice and
we won't have to pay you, and we'll throw somebody
else in there, anybody, because they'll play. This is where
the NFL stands with their players right now. You said, well,
who's gonna watch those games? They'll watch it's the NFL.
There's gambling aspects to it, there's television aspects to it.

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The NFL knows this. No player is above the shield.
So the NFL is of such a mindset, Aaron that
they say, we can throw anybody out there in those uniforms.
We're gonna get numbers, We're gonna get our television money.
The owners are gonna make their money, and the players

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don't want to play. Players don't want to get paid.
That's on you. I don't think you're wrong on all that,
um I do, but it doesn't kind of change the
very simplistic point of why haven't why don't we have
protocols in place? Why haven't we figured this out? That's
the part that I'm still trying to wrap my head around.
Is like I said, you know, the n b A,

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we criticize them. We said, why are you taking so long?
Why are you taking until July? And it was so
they could phase in working out in your own facility,
test before you go test. When you get into the bubble,
test again, make sure play some preseason games, play some
regular season games, and then we'll ramp up for the playoffs.
And so the idea that the NFL still has no idea.

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I actually listen, I'm not like Mr Pro player. The
players are always right and the owners are always wrong.
But I think the players have a point here, like
we we we just want to know what's going on
and what the testing procedures are gonna look like. The
players apparently want to test a little bit more than
the owners want to at this point. I don't blame
the players for it, because it doesn't feel like the
players are saying these are our demands. They just want

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to know, like, what the heck is going on here.
One of the teams that is really feeling at right
now are the Raiders, and some of they worked in
that organization and no Mark Davis for a long long time.
He's got a problem. He's got a big problem. So
they moved to Vegas and immediately they sold four seventy

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eight million dollars in PSLs, And when they had a
vote about blocking off the first eight rows of seats,
it was a thirty one to one vote. You know
who was the loan negative. That would be Mark Davis
in his brand new stadium. Here's what he doesn't want

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to do send out refunds. So while other stadiums are
out there, and they're trying to configure limited fans that
get into their stadiums. Mark Davis is not in the
financial position to give out refunds. He has no money
other than the perceived value of the Raider organization. Believe me,

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he doesn't. So they're trying to figure out how they
can get more fans into their new Allegiance Stadium in
Vegas than anybody else's planning to do. This is the
problem you have right now. And knowing Mark Davis, I've
always said this about Mark. He never really had a
job within the Raider organization. His relationship with his father

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was different. I'll put it that way. I don't want
to go much further than that. Well, one thing I
do know about Mark Davis is he's a business guy.
If anything, he has a better business sense than his
father had, because his father really was a football man
more than a business guy. Um Market has a business sense.
But he's trying to keep his head above water. The
David's family and only owns about the Raiders. He's not

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one of those owners or you know, majority owners like
so many out there. He's in deep with this move
to Vegas because remember there's relocation, money, everything else. So
he is going to have to figure out a way,
probably again rebellious. I guess that's the one thing he
takes after his father's setting his own rules and not
following the rules of the NFL to squeeze as many

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people into that Vegas stadium as possible. You know, it's
gonna be interesting. I love to get your thought in
this er. And you know, the idea that whereas Baseball's
made it clear we're not gonna have fans and be
a there's no fans, and I was like, yeah, we're
gonna have fans. How many we don't know yet, but
we're gonna have fans. Okay, how are you gonna do that?

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Just the logistics think about that. Let's just say twenty
thousand trying to get twenty thousand people safely into a
stadium taking temperatures, I mean, this could take forever to
try to get people in, and not only in, but
once they're in, how do you work concessions, how do

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you have bathrooms, how do you they operate within the stadium?
And then how do you safely get them out of
the stadium? And you know that the tickets are gonna
have a waiver that that's a guarantee. How many fans
do you think are gonna brave it? Think about the
mentality of the die hard NFL fans. Do you think
the majority is still gonna say, ah, don't worry about it, man,

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I gotta be at the stadium. Or are they gonna
be unpleasantly surprised even if they make all the seats available,
how few people will actually show up. I think there
will be there. I think there is enough interest in
the game day experience, in supporting the team that whatever
the minute maximum number of people they can get in,

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they will. Now. I do think there's gonna be some
season ticket holders that you know. I know the Ravens
came out this week and said, look, your season tickets
will not be impacted. Uh, that will just say I'm
sixty five, I have underlying health conditions, I'm overweight, whatever,
I'm just not coming. But I also think there's that
group of twenty four year old that's die hard that
never misses a game, and now this is their chance

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to get into the stadium. And so I think there's
so many interesting dynamics right because I'm thinking about this
even from the college football perspective already brought this up
last night. Say you can get into the horseshoe. Well,
what about there are thousands of people that come every
week to tailgate that don't even have tickets. Do you
limit tailgating? As you said, what about the bathrooms? What
about the concession. So there's a lot of answers, but

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there's a lot of students. But to directly answer the
question that you posed about, will fans show up? I
do think it will be the max that are allowed.
But I do think there's gonna be a lot of
actual season ticket holders, the big money people that say,
you know what, this just ain't my year. We'reh the
guy go Fox Sports Radio studios. I want to get
back to certain double standards. And this is why we

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have to get on the same page. Uh, that actually
affects sports, recreational sports. I'll give you a prime example
on the other side. But right now, let's find out
what is trending. David Gascon is back. How about you
would you, uh, we're doing a couple of buddies buy
tickets to a game at it? So far or what

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is it? Fifty people that have worked there have been infected.
There seems to be a lot of that floating around
the air at SOFI Stadium. But um, would you uh,
would you want a ten A sporting event in person
during this crisis sporting event? Yes, I tend not to
go to college or or NFL games. It's just it's

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it's like going to a dive bar. But if that's
the night. But if that's the only sporting of it
you can go to, if there's no baseball, no basketball,
none of that available to you. Yeah, Well, if I
have to pay eighteen dollars for a beer, not a
fan of it. If I had to pay forty dollars
for parking, which is the case here in l A,
not a fan of it. So I'm watching on TV

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plus plus. You're talking about it for the NFL and
for college football. There's so many games that are going
on at the same time, with fantasy football involved and
with potentially any gambling involved. I want to stay home. Now.
If it's Major League Baseball, I'll go to the game.
Dodger Stadium holds people. Okay, But here here's my question
to you guys about the fan experience here, And you

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were talking about fan experience, the fan experiences to be
amongst other fans. If you're separated by you know, a
lot of seats and you're just like in this little
group of four people you brought and like I was
not a fan. I completely disagree. I think I think
going to a live event is to see it live

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and up close. The size, the speed, the velocity of
the talent, those are things you can't capture. You can't
captures and it and it's the broader context of fans
in general. Right, Like as an L s U. If
you go to an L s U games, to be
there with a hundred thousand, I'm not to be with
you know, John and Bill in two rows ahead of you.

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So yeah, And how often are you talking to these
people anyway? More often than not, you're you're not doing
I mean, you're yelling at people up the other thing,
I'll say real quick, we gotta understand there's a lot
of people that cannot afford a ticket to the average
game at any you say, NBA, NFL, college football, that

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all of a sudden are gonna maybe be able to
go to games they wouldn't be able to otherwise. No,
that's I completely agree. Soccer would be different and of
course if it's the Stanley Cup playoffs, I want to
be there. So, uh, guys, a little bit different of
a pace the memorial going on today? Fourth round action
John rom As your leader, He's at twelve underpart. Tony
Finale and Ryan Palmer are four strokes behind on that.

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You guys had mentioned it with Twitter today NFL players
taking into the league itself Drew Brees and a tweet said,
if the NFL doesn't do their part to keep players healthy,
there is no focus. Uh, there is no football in
how about this? Out of New England ESPNS Bob Reis
reports Mohammed Sanu has hired a full time coach to
live with him. About that, Uh, he hopes last season

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nineteen was an aberration. Andy will be much different for
obviously him and obviously his personal accolades, securing a long
term deal. College football scene, former Nebraska wide receiver J. D. Spielman,
who led the corn Huskers last year and receiving yards
in touchdown catches, has transferred to t s you Major
League Baseball. Angels third baseman Anthony Rundon sideline today because

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of oblique soreness. He was scratched yesterday and scratched on
Friday for the interrasquad game. Manager Joe Madden said it's
unclear if they'll be ready for opening Day against the
Oakland A's and Matt Kemp a familiar face here in
Los Angeles. Yes, his contract was purchased from Albuquerque by
the Colorado Rocky, so it looks like he'll get some
at bats back in the National League West. He played

(26:14):
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better get Mako, guys, Back to you all right. Thing
about Matt Campbell with the Podres, he was the first
Podre ever to hit for the cycle and no one
ever thinks of him as a Potre like he was
a Podre. Yeah, he was a Podre and he was
the first Podre hit for the cycle. Isn't Matt Kemp
one of those guys like he made his money? Why
is he still He's like, he's my age, thirty five,
thirty six, Like, why is he still clinging for dear life?

(26:59):
Because he came in And you know, here's the thing, Aaron.
You may not know this because you might be financially secure,
but as someone that continues to work out these years,
the idea of continually getting paid is actually a pretty
good idea. Sure, yeah, but Matt Kemp's a handsome guy.
He could probably get into TV if he wanted to.
I don't know, and I v I mean really doing

(27:21):
what Matt Camp is not a superstar player could have been.
He had a momental game. Wasn't he with the Kardashian
or something? I thought? There was, no, no, no, no, no no,
he was with Rihanna. In fact, it was one of
the most unbelievable moments ever. So we had this is
when Chris Meyers and I were doing the National Show

(27:43):
here on Fox and we had Matt Camp on the
show and I asked him about his relationship or Rihanna,
And because I guess that there was reports that he
broken up, and he made some comment whatever. The next
thing I know, my name is in a column of
Perez Hilton nice. Because we had gotten Matt Kemp on

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the record about his relationship for Rihanna. I found nobody else.
You're such a journalist, am I right? Dodgers center fielder
Matt Kemp was on a five seventy k a c
slash Fox Sports Radio right this morning with was it
Chris Myers and Steve Hartman. Yeah, he was to try
and avoid talking about his unconfirmed relationship with Rihanna. See

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what huh? So Matt camp got me famous for a second.
That's some good journalism. You know, you're like the woes
of the dating scene. I'm impressed here. I don't know
what possessed me. I don't even know why. I asked. Well.
Myers came out with the question can you can you
clarify that? Are you guys dating? Kemp denies it. He
says that's just a good friend of mine. Hartman fires

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back with now, is she a baseball fan or his friends?
What kind of common interest do you have? And he said,
she's a great person that loves to watch basketball and
she likes basketball. That's such as Steve Hartman question, what
is the basis of your friendship? What is that friendship?
How does that work? I also found a nice rite
up on MTV dot com. It's not aware they had

(29:15):
a website. I mean, I'm not surprised, I guess, but
uh yeah, so you really made the round that you
never know when people are listening a blog called Vince
Scully is my Homeboy. You know. It's it's a little
frightening when you Google your name every once in a while,
like where it's popping up and you're like, holy moly, um,
by the way, we're comingy alive. From the Guy Go

(29:36):
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or call in or knife force of an otto. The
only hard part figuring out which way is easier. You know,
when it comes to dealing with this COVID nineteen situation,
the double standard is getting to me. Right now here
was an example. So guy goes down to the driving range,

(29:57):
right once I hit some gollpause, I gotta But he
doesn't have clubs. So he goes over to what he
had done previously, just to rent some clubs, and they're
telling them we're not renting clubs, and he says, well
why not. He goes because we don't need multiple people
handling the clubs and he goes, that's funny because when

(30:20):
I go to the store, I'm using the same shopping
cart that somebody else just used, and they're putting their
hands on the carts. So you're telling me it's safe
for me to use a shopping cart to somebody just used,
but it's not safe for me to put my hands
on rented clubs that somebody used three days ago. Well

(30:41):
it's unbelievable because you know, my mom was supposed to
come out and visit. She lives on the East Coast
and we've just been She's not gonna come, but we
were just talking and you know, she dropped the well,
you know, I don't feel great about eating in restaurants
and blah blah blah. And I was like, but you're
gonna fly across country in an airplane, so you're cool
with that. But going into uh Denny's is where you

(31:03):
draw the line, you know. And I hear people all
the time, well, I I would never do what you're doing.
But then they'll go to the hair salon or they'll
do this, or they'll do that, and it's like, are
we scared of this or not? Like it feels like
you know, you gotta like and it just feels like
everyone is internalizing it for their own individual Well, I,
how dare you do that? But man, do I need

(31:25):
a haircut though, so I'm gonna go to the salon.
But don't do that. That's wrong. You're putting everyone's life
at risk. But I'm gonna go get my hair done,
nails done, am I. And when we talk about commercial
flights leaving the middle seat open, I'm sorry. Our seats
six ft wide on not the last time I checked
on a commercial flight, they're not so I mean again,
everyone's sort of making up their rules as they go.

(31:46):
And look, we're all in this together to try to
figure out the best way, yes, Sam. And how hard
is it to wipe down a golf club? I mean
it's just, you know, exactly the handle, that's it. So
you couldn't rent a club because they didn't want multiple
beat well handling the same clubs, he goes. I was
just at the store. I can promise you the shopping
cart I was pushing was touched by somebody else. Did

(32:08):
they wipe them down? Some people do, uh wipe down
the carts in the little baskets and stuff that's nice
if they do that for you. Are you wiping down
everything all the time? Um? No, But if I touched
something that I don't know if it's been sterilized whatever
mouth like we have right here, We got a little
hand sanitizer in the studio, Like everyone's got all this
kind of stuff, and I don't know, I'll be honest

(32:29):
with it. I'm not quite as conscious of it as
I was in the very beginning. Like in the very beginning,
there's been some slippage. I think there has been some slippage,
There's no question about that. So yeah, this double standard
is something that affects the whole sports world. So I mean,
for instance, I was talking to a reporter who's in
the NBA bubble and he has to get tested seven

(32:52):
consecutive days before he can actually leave his room. So
seven straight days of jamming that thing up their nose
and he has to get a negative test for seven
consecutive days. He actually was at day four, so he
still had three more days to go before he could
leave his room. And this plays into back to what
we were talking about a minute ago. With the NFL.

(33:13):
The players want daily you know, you know expensive that
is for instance, get expensive. Who wants the thing jammed
up your nose every single day? So the the MBA
is not covering the costs of this test that yeah,
he works with the Washington Post. They have to pay
for those daily tests. You know how much of those
tests are because you have to have those are the

(33:35):
tests that you get a obviously a twenty four or
less than twenty four turnaround with the results. Hundreds of dollars.
Hundreds of dollars for each one that's coming out of
the pocketbook of his employer. M He ain't paying for
medium members to get tested. Uh, you want to come in,
here's what you're gonna have to do and it's on

(33:56):
your dime. So how many employers are willing to uh
do that? Do what cover games that? I mean they're
all gonna be on TV? Well, yeah, there there's about
I think ten media members outside of the broadcast partners,
which are T and T and ESPNU that are in.
It'd be pretty cool to go. But the value of

(34:17):
the accent, maybe the access is really good because all
the players that they got nobody else to do talk to,
you know, go hang out of the pool party with
Dwight Howard and do that whole thing, and I don't know.
All right, let's move forward. We got the NBA bubble.
We're in the Guy Go Fox Sports Radio Studios. I'm
want to get to the games themselves. So the start
of the NBA season will be on July. One of
the first two games will be the Lakers and the Clippers.

(34:40):
What's at stake for Lebron James. We're gonna tell you
coming up next, Steve Harman, Aaron tars are coming alive
from the Guy Go Fox Sports Radio Studios. All right,
let's focus in on a little basketball talk right now.
NBA will open up their season on July. That is
the game plan. The gonna have eighty eight regular season games. Basically,

(35:03):
it's to decide who's going to make the playoffs, who's
not going to make the playoffs. One team that is
in the playoffs will be the Los Angeles Lakers, and
the oddsmakers are making the Lakers the overwhelming favorite UH
to go on to win an NBA championship if they do.
Assuming that in the end, Lebron James most likely an
NBA Finals m v P, he will have on his

(35:25):
resume something that's never been done before. There's only three
players in the history of the NBA to be an
NBA Finals MVP for two different franchises. The first was
Kareem Abdul Jabbar. The other two are Lebron James and
Kawhi Leonard. So if Lebron James wins a championship with
the Lakers to go with the championships that he won

(35:47):
with the Heat and the championship he won with Cleveland
and everything else that's on his resume, does that in
the argument once and for all about the goat in
NBA history in terms of So if he wins this year, right,
I mean, I mean to me, is there any argument
still in favor of Michael Jordan's over Lebron James as

(36:09):
far as their NBA careers are concerned? Six rings, six finals? Okay?
I mean, listen, what about the nine years that he
didn't make the NBA Finals. Here's the thing? Do they
not even he only placed six years? Here's the thing.
I'm not. I'm not even a like crazy Michael Jordan's guy,
but the idea that you just handed to Lebron because

(36:32):
he franchise hops seems a little bit ridiculous to me. No, buddy,
franchise hop and made a difference everywhere he went. I mean,
his return to Cleveland was the ultimate right. Cleveland had
completely cratered when he left them. He comes back and
not only does he win a championship, he beats a
team that won seventy three games down three games to one,

(36:54):
with two victories on the home court of the Golden
State Warriors. So here's my here's my argument. This is
my true belief. And I'm not trying to be hot
take radio guy. I can never give Lebron greatest player
of balls. And I was a Lebron I still am.
I love the guy, but he quit on the Lakers
last year, and I cannot look at a player who

(37:14):
quit on a team he wasn't hurt. He came back
history him to shut it down. No, No, that's not
what I'm talking about. What I'm talking about. I understand
they were in fourth place when he went down with
the growing injury. Was on Christmas Day. Arnie Spannier and
I were in the studio when I was in this studio,

(37:36):
and they had an incredible comeback with him hurt against
the Warriors, and when he came back it was in
the height of the Anthony Davis situation, and when they
did not pull off the trade for Anthony Davis because
New Orleans refused to trade him, he sulked like a
little baby at the end of the bench. Remember that
that picture, and I'll never forget because I was also

(37:58):
of his career. He had just quit on your team,
he did quiz. Basically, he felt like the organization had
quit on him. He every everyday reist history. First of all,
when he when he got signed with the Lakers, Magic
Johnson was the guy in charge. Suddenly Magic was out

(38:19):
like everything was happening around him, like I signed up
for something here with a lot of promises made about
the direction this organization was gonna go, and now everything
else has been blown up by my face. No no, no no, no,
no no no. First of all, they didn't know Ron
Magic Magic was still with the team when the trade
was not able to be consummated. In other words, he

(38:41):
couldn't pull off what he promised. Know, what Lebron did
is what Lebron always does. And I love Lebron, but
but he comes in and everything. I gotta get my coach,
I gotta get my this, I gotta get my that.
We're gonna trade that guy you go to Cleveland. The
whole roster except for Kyrie Irving, was essentially flipped within
one year of him getting there, and it worked. It worked, yes,

(39:04):
But the point being is that he came in and
he thought he was gonna run the organization the same way,
and he was gonna get Ty Low as his coach,
and he was gonna get this, and he was gonna
get that exactly. That's what do you get with Lebron James.
He runs the show just like Michael Jordan ran the
show with the Chicago Bulls. Why did Jerry we we
all watched the documentary. I don't know if Michael Jordan
really ran the Bulls the way that Jordan made it

(39:26):
clear when they announced that Phil Jackson win is the
last season with the Bulls as the coach. He goes,
I will leave when he leaves, and that's exactly what
he didn't get his way, so he left, he left.
So there's no difference between Jordan's and Lebron James. Same
thing that Magic Johnson did in his second year when
he got Paul west Head fired. Sure fired. I don't

(39:49):
be grudge him, but I just can't say he's the
greatest player of I cannot sit because he sunk because
he didn't get his way. Yes, you don't quit on
your team if you're a leader, if you're a huge players,
different player of all. He is the greatest player of all.
He might be the most skilled player of all time.
There is a lot of different things. But if Lebron

(40:11):
James is Lebron James, because Lebron James. Yeah, I just
wanted there that, yeah exactly. I was like, who is
that rich? Wanted to get in as well. Uh no,
I love Lebron. But he appeared. He didn't quit on him.
He said you're not then you promised me and he
and then they shut him down. Get out. But if

(40:31):
you're a leader, got his way right, if you did
get Anthony, if you're the greatest ever, aren't you supposed
to elevate the team rather than sitting there soaking? Man?
Oh man, I'm a visies history. We're the guy Fox Sports?
What else? What else are we gonna get? A host?
This show? All right? Rolling on on this Sunday, Hartman

(40:57):
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for a free raid quote. Seriously, did you ever think
when we had the shutdown begin in mid March that
we would be where we are right now in mid July?

(41:19):
Did you think that? No? I didn't um. And it's
crazy because we all remember where we were at the
Rudy Gobert situation. But what's wild to me is that
I always felt like one the numbers would regress in
the right direction. But it's funny. We talked about the
Raiders last hour because I always thought that was going
I thought sports was going to push society in the

(41:40):
sense that the Rams are opening a multibillion dollar stadium
and they can't afford to have it sit empty. Major
college athletics can't afford to have stadium sit empty. The
Raiders cannot afford to have their stadium sit empty. And
yet here we are, and we're really at a situation
right now. We're gonna be playing football games without fans
in the stands, at least in some place. Since we

(42:01):
have two sides really pushing up against each other. There's
one side obviously that thinks the only way we're gonna
get through this is if we shut everything down, shut
it down? What what what is that that's from a show?
Shut it down? Shut it down? Alright, I don't know
something like that. So that's one side. The other side

(42:22):
is we can't do that. If we shut it down,
the fallout from that shutdown will be far worse than
anything that we face with COVID nineteen. So there's two
polar opposite sides. I still think though, that the restarted sports,

(42:44):
with Major League Baseball this week, the NBA the following week,
and hopefully NFL football down the road, that it will
at least give us visually watching these games on TV,
even if we can't be there in person, a certain
sense of normalcy or will it. Here's one of the

(43:07):
biggest problems I've had so far with sports returning, golf
being the prime example right now, because that's really the
only I mean, NASCAR, you're not really hearing the crowd, right,
you know, because it's auto race. But in golf, when
I sit here Aaron and I watch golf being played,
why do we not have any golf right now? We
have multiple movies going on, we have no golf. Is

(43:29):
there any golf on TV? Today? Then we have the
fine around the memorial. Yeah, yeah, get on that. I
mean Sam's watching multiple movies here today, and I'm like,
he's celebrating International Billy Crystal Day apparently. Okay, I wanted
sports on it, all right, I mean Tiger Woods. Tiger

(43:52):
Woods is still playing, right, he made the cut. All right,
we'll find it. Here's what bothers me here. And I
don't know if if you've been watching it, so you
watch golf, and when we sit here in the studio
and multiple TVs and you're just watching the golf, we
don't have a sound on, it looks pretty normal. Then
if I go home and watch it and I turn
on the sound, it's obviously not normal. Like there's there's

(44:16):
no crowd reaction that And so I almost immediately find
myself turning the sound down so I can just sort
of watch it without the missing element of fans reaction. Now,
this is something the Major League Baseball is trying to
figure out right now. And so for instance, I used
the Dodgers an example where they are actually bringing in

(44:38):
crowd sound from a video game. Essentially, it is it's
sort of that sustain crowd noise, but there's no inflection
it just sort of there, and I'm like, okay, that
is even worse than no crowd noise at all. I
don't know how is it necessary for you? Do you?

(45:01):
Somehow at least television wise creates some sound that makes
sense when you would normally watch a baseball game. So
it's really funny. I hate to keep referencing, uh, you know,
my Saturday show, but this was Arnie's big take yesterday.
I can't watch baseball without fans in the stands. It's
not that same. And I think with baseball, baseball is

(45:22):
weird because baseball is the only real, like major sport
where the crowd is unintentionally an element. Yeah, those are
the cutouts they had yesterday at the Yankees Mets game.
But so the NBA, uh, you know, you can hear
the crowd, you can't see it. The NFL, you can

(45:43):
hear the crowd, you can't see it. But Baseball, because
of the home runs, because of the foul balls, the
optics just feel so weird now to me, I want
anything on my TV. I don't care, but I I
will say with soccer, I have liked the piped in
crowd noise. I I haven't minded it. And so with
these other sports, I don't know. I'll have to hear

(46:05):
it for myself. Is it gonna be weird? Like if
the Lakers are playing the the Pelicans in the playoffs
and the Lakers go on an eight oh run in
Game one? Is the one seat? Are they gonna pipe
in like the fans cheering or not? You know? So
I need to hear it and see it in each
individual sport to know how I really feel about it. Yeah,
I mean, and watching this exhibition game they have between

(46:25):
the Mets and the Yankees, the game itself is unchanged. Yeah,
and and and in a lot of ways. And one
of the things golfers have been talking about is their
ability to focus is even better with no distraction from
the galleries. And I've said this, I talked about this
last week with you. I think the NBA once once
the players start to get back into the rhythm in
the NBA playoffs, I think we're gonna see some dynamite basketball.

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But from a fans perspective, just watching the games, I
guess you could say, well, we'll just have to get
used to it, like it's the new normal, and we
don't know how long this is going on can you
imagine this actually goes beyond. I always love these people
to think, well let's just get okay, you mean, like

(47:10):
January one, it all goes away that And it's funny
because you know, I'm a college hoops guy, and I
we don't need to do a college hoops segment on
in July. But well, I'll say this. Kevin Willard, the
head coach of sen Hall, said something that I've been
saying for a while. There's now this push in college
hoops of like, well we just we just start January one,
and he's like, actually, it's the exact opposite. Actually, most

(47:33):
of these campuses aren't going to have kids on campus
after Thanksgiving. He's like, we just need a jam in
as many games from the from Thanksgiving Day or the
week before Thanksgiving through January, and then we figure it
out after January when the students actually come back to campus.
So I have always been with you on that, and
you know, I remember this was in like April. Our

(47:54):
governor here in California, Gavinusom, yeah, we're probably not gonna
have was it no fans or was it no sports
until one? I can't remember, but he just there was
a throwaway line about nothing until and that was my
exact thought, like, what changes on January one? I don't understand. Well,
I'm sure, I'm sure the virus is looking at the
calendar saying, okay, you know I'm hanging around once twenty. Well,

(48:19):
first of all, I'm already COVID nineteen. Yeah, I'm already
on overtime. Right, this is I mean, you know, COVID
nineteen should be COVID twenty. I mean that's where they
got the COVID nineteen. People weren't clear. I wasn't clear
about that in the beginning. But it happens when when
they actually the coronavirus started. Uh So, already COVID nineteen
is working overtime in I think it's gonna extend it.

(48:41):
I got tired of this. Let's move on something I
understood it, never understood it. And then this is the
other thing. One of the things I've said about this
entire reaction to COVID nineteen, unlike anything we've seen in
a hundred years, is coronavirus has happened all the time. Yep,

(49:01):
COVID nineteen is about the year, But there are coronaviruses
all the time. Some are more substantial than others. But
if there's even a hint of a pandemic, anything being
termed as a pandemic. Remember, the swine flu was a
worldwide pandemic. It was the mortality it was much lower,
but it was a worldwide pandemic. Nothing was shut down,

(49:25):
so and we didn't know, I mean nobody knew when
no one was even talking about it, to be honest
with you. Everything proceeded through and fifty million Americans were
affected by it. Fifty million, one out of six Americans
ended up getting the swine flu. What a six? Look
it up? Fifty million? Is it on the same blog?

(49:48):
As the mortality it was very minimal, But but it's
the reaction to it. So if we do get to
the point where we've moved past COVID nineteen in terms
of whole fully a vaccine or some way to better
deal with the what's our reaction going to be for
the next pandemic? Do we shut it down again? So

(50:10):
we've set the precedent now, and I don't know, because
you know this, if we have another worldwide pandemic, even
if the mortality rate is much less than what COVID
nineteen is there's gonna be a lot of people around
the world saying, why why are we still operate? We
need to shut everything down now we've now we've gotten
to that point. It's how do you get out of it?
It's a Pandora's box. Well, it's incredible, it's incredible that

(50:32):
we are still at this point. Um And yeah, man,
I don't know what else to say. It's just one
of those deals where I am of the opinion that
we need to start ramping things back up, because you know,
the thing is, people don't fully understand this element of it.
Is when when you shut down the way that we did,
you don't see the ramification. You see the ramifications of

(50:53):
it right away with unemployment and those kind of things,
but some of the other things you don't see the
ramifications for two, three, four years down the road. And
I just say this, man, I'll say is really quick
because I'm in a fortunate position where I don't have
any kids, I'm not a small business owner. Uh you know,
I'm a little more nimble than other people. But to
see people's livelihoods, they own gyms, they own restaurants, it's like,

(51:16):
I just feel bad for him. I really do. All right,
we are here in the Guy Go Fox Sports Radio Studios.
On the other side, we're gonna get into a little
bit more about how this is gonna operate and how
the sports world actually is sort of the litmus test
for the rest of us. And now we think it

(51:37):
really is going to work. We'll explain coming up next,
Steve Harman Aarontars. We're coming alive from the Guy Go
Fox Sports Radio Studios. By the way, our Fox Sports
Radio audience has never been more so. It's crazy. The
audience has been building in the anticipation that, hey, we're

(51:58):
gonna have some really good news is about the restart
of seasons and everything else, and right now we're on
the cusp like sitter. Literally, next week we're gonna be
sitting here watching Major League Baseball games that count the
go in the record books, and then the week after
that will have NBA games where the games will go
into the record books. And this this gets us back

(52:24):
to a certain level of normalcy, certainly in the sports
world for us who've been without our calendar for several months,
but in society as well. Here's the great dynamic erain
of the start of the Major League baseball season and
the restarted the NBA season. And I can't put the

(52:46):
NHL into this right now because their restart is all
gonna be in Canada, which, by the way, I don't
blame them, because the majority of players live in Canada,
it made sense for their restart to happen in Canada.
But here in this country, the doctors are scrambling for answers.
They're scrambling. Remember what was it, you know, we get
to the summer months. Every coronavirus we've seen diminishes during

(53:08):
the summer months. It's been the polar opposite suddenly got inflamed.
So they're scrambling for answers. But you're gonna have two
dynamically different approaches. Two the scheduling for Major League Baseball.
In the NBA, the NBA will be in a bubble
and Major League Baseball will not. If Major League Baseball

(53:32):
somehow gets through these couple of months and we get
to the postseason with limited players testing positive, and we
get day in and day out, even with no crowds,
maybe a little start feeling a little comfortable. I mean,
this could change the whole dynamic of the mindset for

(53:53):
Americans on I'm not gonna say the seriousness, but may
be a mental approach of how to tackle this pandemic.
And I understand the concept of why baseball would be
so important, but I think all these sports. I think
the fact that we're turning on the TV every day
and the MLS is playing in Florida. It hasn't been flawless,

(54:17):
it hasn't been without issues. It's in a hotspot right now,
but they're playing the NBA is going to be playing
here in a week, and then certainly Major League Baseball
with the fact they're traveling all over the country three
games here, fly to Baltimore, fly to Tampa, fly back
to your home base. And so to me, I think
all of these sports are an important step. And I
think when you talk about the idea of where will

(54:38):
be at the end of the baseball season, by that
point we'll hopefully have NFL football, will hopefully have some
form of college football, and we'll see, you know, we
can do activity safely. Football, we can lean on each
other and tackle and being a dog pile and get
out of it and will be okay. I think all
of this is important. I hope all of this is
important because as I said last segment. I am of

(55:01):
the belief that we need to start getting life back
to normal as we know it. So you look at
the numbers and they're not great, right, what is it over?
What what's the number SAM over three million Americans? What
is the number three the average positive tests a day?
I think? Are what I meant? All right? So there
are there are three hundred thirty million Americans and three

(55:25):
million have tested positive, which means that three seven million
have not. No, I don't like the three million. I
mean we keep getting back to a D thirty nine
thousand deaths and everything else. Well, real quick though, you
say you don't like the three million, But what does
the number have to be where it is completely unacceptable?

(55:46):
Where we have to like you know what I mean?
And that's the whole point is like, nobody wants anybody
to get sick, nobody wants anybody to die. But there
has to be a risk benefit analysis of our cost
benefit in houses, not risk of cost benefiting analysis of
where is that line in the sand where some people
are gonna have to get this so that we can

(56:07):
open restaurants, we can open travel, we can open hotels
and all of these, Uh, corporations and entities can get
back to normal. I always get back to the what
we in the beginning of this when we were talking
about social distancing, actually not social distance, as the long
term early is physical distancing and wearing masks. This is

(56:30):
not a bad thing. I mean, I I remember again,
it was Christmas, or was December of the twenty eighteen
that I took my daughter to New York. We went
on a tour of the n y U campus. Right,
so we're there for like five days. You went for

(56:51):
the Heisman ceremony, right, No, I did not go for
the Heisman ceremony, but he did stop by the Heisman headquarters,
which I always do when I'm in New York, and
went to a Broadway went to see Wicked, and you know,
we're having a good time and where it was cold,
but it was dry. I don't mind cold as long
as it's dry. And but we only were to know
on the subways and we're just doing the New York thing.
It's packed, you know, it's Manhattan, right, And a couple

(57:13):
of weeks later I got I started coffee and I
could tell almost instantly like this is not good. And
for the next couple of months, I was hacking my
way through my radio work, my TV work. I didn't
have a fever, I didn't have any but it was
just like that mucus that was constant, and when you

(57:35):
do what I do, it was deadly and I was
having to I was muted on TV because I didn't
want to have a coffee attack on live television everything else.
But I know where I got it, because I was
exposed to all these people that I'm not normally exposed to.
I don't hang around a lot of people, and all
of a sudden, I'm in a very dense area with
a lot of people, and it only takes one person

(57:56):
to something flies through the air. So I love of
the fact that at the very least, hopefully out of
this whole predicament that we are conscious of physical distancing
of you know, the idea of I mean, do you
think you will ever shake anybody's hand again, see outside

(58:17):
of your own immediate family, I don't know. And I
mean you hand shake her too. I like when I
see so you meet somebody for the very first time
and they extend your hand shaking that you're shaking hands
right now, Sam, not right now? But I love a
good handshaking important. I'm kind of just you know, this

(58:38):
is no different from before. What if that person had
something else on their hand when you shook their hands.
Just don't lick your pall, you know, right, you know,
b B, they have to have you know, you can
sanitize hours a day, pocket size hand sandy. But I mean,
I have a little spray bottom on my car, Like
every time I get gas. You know what I do,
I handle the thing and as soon as I get
my car, before I do anything else, a little sprits,

(59:00):
a little wipe off. There you go. It's the only
time I use I think we can do without the
gloves though, the constant way. It's just a big environmental way.
I did get gloves the sea turtles. Nobody ever thinks
of the sea turtles. You get gloves to go to
the gym, but then they shut down the gyms again.
I just got my membership is out there wasting away. Well,
they'll just spend they'll just spending it for a while,

(59:22):
but they But do you want to go back into
a gym? Yes? I do, I do too, but win, Yeah,
we don't know. I was happy. I've actually changed Jim.
So they reopened the Gym's and the gym and these
are two prominent names. I don't have to give them out,
but one I've been a member of for years. And
when I went back to the gym, I didn't like
their setup. It was very much on the honor system.
I didn't see any people really observing social distancing. Not

(59:45):
everyone was wearing a mask, and we're obviously too many
people in the gym. So I switched. Literally two days later,
I said no, went to a different big time gym,
and the environment was very different, very different as far
as distancing the right amount of people there other people
not you're just wiping down your own equipment, but other
people are doing That's what I want to see. You

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strike me as a Gold's gym kind of guy, just
putting up like the bench. Do I look like a
guy that can lift? I can barely lift my own
weight anyway. So here's the thing, Um, I think this
is all good. I think it just beat conscious of
the fact you shouldn't be going to work sick. How
many how many times have you been in that environment

(01:00:29):
where someone is packing up along and you're like, dude,
why are you here? I told I've told this story
many times. But I worked at FS one for a
while and our boss was this old, grizzled guy, old school,
probably smoked a pack of cigarettes every day. Not my
business whatever, But you know, the thing that flipped me
with him was there was one day where it was

(01:00:50):
like probably November, it's starting to get chilly. People are
starting to get cold. And he said, look, here's our policy.
Don't be a hero. If you don't feel well, don't
come in. We can survive a day or two or
three without you, but you can't be getting everybody else
sick in here. And then it's something I've always lived
my life by is everyone wants to be a hero.

(01:01:11):
Everyone wants to be Michael Jordan flew game. It's like
you work in accounting. When you could take one day off,
the world will go on without you. Don't take off
April fifteenth. But other than that, take off whatever you need.
You know, I mean my cough situation. You know, I
never had a fever and no other symptence. It was
just this mucus build up in my thrill and I
had some bad confidence. I mean, I look back like
everyone's sort of accepting that I was doing it. I'm

(01:01:35):
with you, but honestly, I shouldn't have done it. I
should have shut it down. I won't do it again.
Let's put it that way. If I have something like
that or right, I'm not gonna do that. He didn't
that affect you for months and months time it was, well,
I didn't. I really never took any time off and
I'm working seven days a week. You need to rest,
get some honey. And I was doing that the whole time.

(01:01:56):
And though you need to be a sleeping oh. I
was getting Z packs and everything. I was trying everything
to get rid of it. And it took me a
couple of months, probably because I didn't just shut it
down and do it. You need a little more Kauai
in your lifeload management there, Steve Farmer, all right, I
like i'd like if Kawhi Leonard. In fact, I want
to ask you about Kauai because I know you're obsessed
with Kawhi Leonard. It's coming alive from the guy. Go

(01:02:19):
Fox Sports Radio Studios. He usaid to say, fifteen per
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the last hour. The end of the last hour, Aaron
went on a rant about why it was more Ron James,
uh is not the greatest of all time because he

(01:02:39):
quit on the Lakers a year ago, and you mentioned
Kawai Leonard, who, by the way, over the last several years,
Let's see, he quit on the San Antonio Spurs. He quit.
They quit on him. They didn't trust was he was
hurt and they didn't trust him. He quit on them.
He then went to Toronto where he created this load
management all that he carried over this year with the Clippers.

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I mean, you talk about a guy marching to his
own tune and setting his own rules. He even just
did it now where he showed up late to the bubble.
So Kauai Leonard, if anything, Kawhi Leonard has recreated because
they asked Lebron James about Kawhi Leonard's load management and
in Lebron's like, there's no load management for me. Well,

(01:03:23):
that was such a that was such a b s.
I know this is gonna sound good. He said something
to the effect of, uh, you know, there are kids
showing up that have never seen backup back up. I
want to hear your excuse for why Leonards load management,
which by the way, affects season ticket holders who buy
tickets for games. And even though he's not injured or

(01:03:46):
anything else, two years, over two years since this injury
that he had, he is still adhering to a load
management schedule where he just arbitrarily decides I'm not going
to play. What is your defense of that? My defense
is very simple. The argument at the end of the
last hour was you said, if Lebron wins a championship

(01:04:09):
with the Lakers this year, there is no argument that
he is the greatest player in the history of the sport.
They absolutely say that. I think he already is, but
that would end the argument. I think he might be
the most skilled player ever, but he's not the best ever.
But your example of why he wasn't the best we
had nothing to do with the numbers. He's not a

(01:04:31):
leader when you quit on the team because you're so
he walked into the stadium. I want to go back
to Kawai Leonard, who's a quitter when he has load
management based on his own whim of when he wants
to play, when he doesn't want to play, when he
wants to show up, when he doesn't want to show

(01:04:52):
up under the guys of an injury that happened more
than two years ago. So a couple of things. So
to finished the conversation be where I was so rudely
cut off. No one's arguing that Kauai is the greatest
player of all time. I don't like load management. But
but my argument about Lebron quitting on the team has

(01:05:12):
to do with part of being the greatest is elevating
your team. Uh, no matter the circumstances. That doesn't always
mean winning the championship. That doesn't mean any No player
has won a championship every single year they've played, except
maybe Adam Morrison who played like one year and then whatever.
Nobody wins the championship every year. Yeah, and how and

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and exactly. And he was a great leader, he was
a great whatever. And so to me, I think part
of the greatest conversation. Greatest is not any statistical measurement.
It is a number of different things. It's stats, it's winning,
it's leadership, it's how you handle the locker room, it's
how you do this, it's how you do that. And
I don't think when you sit at the end of
the bench against the Pacers and you sulk because the

(01:05:57):
league didn't bow to your wishes by trading you the
player that you wanted. I think that doesn't make you
the greatest of all time. Now, as it comes to Kauai,
say what you want about Kauai, there was essentially what
no other say, top twenty ish players in the league.
I know Kyle Lowry is an All Star, but he's
not one of the top twenty players in the league. Uh,

(01:06:18):
and he took him to a championship. So do I
like the load management? And I'll say this, when he
went to the Clippers, they knew load management was on
the table. That was part of the deal. So my
argument very simply is, I'm not talking about Kauai in
the context of the greatest player of all time. And
if I was, then yes, he would be dinged points

(01:06:38):
because he chooses to take off a random Tuesday against
the Charlotte Hornets. You mean Kawhi Leonard, whose Raptors took
advantage of a injured Kevin Durant and injured I mean
Ron took advantage and healthy Clay Thompson that the Raptors
still would have want. I actually do believe yes, based

(01:06:59):
on based on the fact that they struggled with the
Clippers in round one, based on the fact that they
they did not play great four moments in that Rockets series,
they were right for the picking. Meanwhile, the Raptors went
and beat the Bucks, who was everybody's darling. Kauai shut
down Jannae four straight games. I truly believe one in

(01:07:21):
my heart of hearts, that the Raptors would have beaten
the Warriors even if they were healthy. But even if
they weren't, it doesn't matter because that's part of the game.
You can't play that game because then we got to
talk about Warriors Championship. We gotta talk about the Warriors
championship when Kyrie and Kevin Love were hurt. We gotta
talk about the sixteen Championship when Draymond got suspended for

(01:07:43):
Game six, a clinching game. We can play that game
with every championship that has ever been contested ever, so
that doesn't count. Kauai wanted. No one's talking about him
as the greatest. It's a completely different conversations. But you're
still not explaining to me how you truly excuse load
manage because it's load management that's been followed by others.
Now could backfire on the Clippers because throughout their season

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they made these two big acquisitions of uh, you know,
Kawhi Leonard and Paul George, and they played very few
games together because the idea was, we're gonna have load
management until we get towards the end of the season.
Then we'll get them on the court together and get
them in rhythm ready for the season. Except there was
no end of the season. Now there will be. And
now what they're gonna be back in the game? You think,

(01:08:28):
Kuie Leonard, who's gonna have let me ask you this,
who's gonna play more minutes during this restart of the season,
these eight games prior to the playoffs. Kawai Leonard or
Lebron James. Who's gonna play more minutes in these eight games?
It's a great question. Now the Lakers have a five
and a half game lead, so there. I mean, it's

(01:08:48):
not about home core, but it is about who you
play in the first round. Remember this about the Clippers.
They are hanging onto that to see what if they
dropped to the four seat. Suddenly we're not looking at Lakers,
Clippers in the conference finals. We might be looking him
at the conference semifinals. Is there a lot to play
for if you're the Clippers? I mean, the Lakers have
their spot pretty much wrapped up. So who again, is

(01:09:10):
going to play more minutes in these eight games? Kawhi Leonard,
Lebron James. I can't believe I'm saying it. Probably Lebron Lebron.
But but here's the here's the counter though. Is that
a good thing for the Clippers if they win the championship?
It doesn't matter. Well if they don't win the champions
By the way, one quick thought, Yeah, you talk about

(01:09:32):
Lebron being the greatest if he wins three championships, three
finals MVPs with three different organizations, never been done before,
would it Kauai do the same thing if he wins
with the Clippers. He will absolutely do that. You just
said that Kawahi Leonard is not in the conversation and
the greatest of all times he's not, which means that
your argument for Lebron being the greatest of all time
is completely Well. Let me ask you this, if Kawhi

(01:09:53):
Leonard does pull it off, should he be in the
conversation the greatest of all time. I don't think yet,
but I I'll say this, I think he's already got
the conversation of the best player in the NBA right now,
and I think if he wins it this year, year
one with the Clippers, I think it's pretty indisputable and
interesting because I you know, I said this with Katino

(01:10:15):
Mobile yesterday. So prior to nineteen one, the NBA Most
Valuable Player Award was not voted on by the media.
It was voted on by the players. Like, for instance,
when Will Chamberlain had that year where you average fifty
points a game. Well, I finished second that year, but
Bill Russell was an overwhelming choice for m v P.
Bill Russell won five MVP awards at a time when

(01:10:38):
the players voted. So I asked Katino Mobile, if the
players voted today instead of the media for Most Valuable Player,
how many MVP awards that Lebron have? He said he
would win every single year. There would never been any
Steph Curries or Janice Enter the compos or Kevin Durance.

(01:11:01):
Because if you're asking players who is the single most
valuable player in this league, there is Lebron and there's
everybody else. His mere presence changes the dynamic way more
than any other player in this league, still in his

(01:11:22):
seventeenth year in the league. Do you agree with that
that part? I agree with um as of now. Yeah,
and I and listen, I have been one. I think
Lebron should have won more m v p s, and
I do think it becomes historically underrated. The point that
you brought up last hour that the greatest regular season
team ever had to go get the second best player

(01:11:45):
in the league to slow down Lebron. I think that
is the number one are It's not about this many finals,
this many championships. The best regular season team ever had
to go get the second best player in the league
to slow down Lebron. That is his best argument ever.
I don't disagree with his greatness. I just don't believe
that when you factor in the word great that you

(01:12:07):
cannot you can exclude the fact that he quit on
his team last year. I'm not a big believer in
load management. I want to add to the load. Okay,
that's the way I added to and it don't subtract.
I add to the load. And by the way, I
love Kauai Leonard's game, so just like you keep you

(01:12:30):
love Lebron I love Kawai Leonards gain the load management.
Not a fan, so let me add all. Maybe we'll
talk about this after the break. But the Clippers, if
you're a Clippers fan, can you be upset knowing coming
into this? It's like um dating a male or female
and there's one thing you really don't like. But if

(01:12:52):
she tells you, he tells you on the first date
and you roll with it, can you really be mad
when it happens? We'll talk about it all right. Well,
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(01:13:14):
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(01:13:34):
love him dearly but I'm just gonna allow you to
you you brought something up before. I'm just I'm gonna
back off. Okay, Okay, So Aaron Torre is gonna take
it over right now? Where where where are you going with?
I'll just start segment over aeron Torus Steve Hartman coming
live from the Guy Go Fox Sports Radio Studios. So,
prior to the break, Steve Hartman was tearing down the

(01:13:56):
legacy of Kauai Leonard and most of it was based
on load management. And I think the load management is
one of those things right there. There's two definitive camps.
You either hate it or you understand it's for the
greater good of you're trying to win a championship. And
so my question for you, Steve was if you're a

(01:14:17):
Clippers fan, if you are Steve Balmer, if you are
Lawrence Frank and coming into the season, two things. One
you saw the success of load management in Toronto resulting
in an NBA championship. But further that you understand coming
in that this is part of the deal that he's

(01:14:39):
going to take off random Tuesday night games. Are you
allowed to be upset? And so I'll give you an
analogy from real life, and I said this prior. You
go on a first date with a beautiful girl, you
have a great time, blah blah blah. You're going out
to the car, you go to make a move and
she pulls out a cigarette and you said, well, I've
never dated a cigarette smoker before. Okay, fast forward six

(01:15:00):
months a year, she pulls out that same cigarette. You
can't complain because you knew from the first date that
she smoked cigarettes. That's how I feel about load management
relative to the clippers. The floor is your step farmer,
all right, Well, my attitude about the load management is
I can understand you coming off the injury where you
only play what five games that last year in San
Antonio to make sure you're a hunter percent healthy, But

(01:15:22):
that's two years down the road. I mean, is this
gonna be permanent where you're just gonna show up when
on a whim? Now, Steve Bombers signed up for this.
I agree with you that he should have known it
was coming, but maybe he didn't. Maybe he thought the
load management was based on a year ago in Toronto
because you had missed almost the entire previous season. Now,
all of a sudden it's under contract, and you're like,

(01:15:44):
is this gonna be the rest of your time with
the Clippers. I've got people that I'm charging an incredible
amount of money to come see you play, and all
of a sudden, I gotta explained to them that you're
sitting on the bench, fully healthy, and you're just sitting
it out because of load management. Yeah. I have a

(01:16:07):
hard time of that, really hard time of that, because
if I'm sitting there with one of my big wig
season ticket holders sitting in those floor seats paying an
amount amazing amount of money, and they're literally staring at
Kawhi Leonard, who the night before, by the way, put
up thirty five and fifteen, and he's not playing because

(01:16:27):
he doesn't want to play. Hey, Bomber, where's my money back?
Because I didn't pay to see the back coup. I
paid to see that guy. That's what I'm paying to see.
He's not hurt. Why is he not in the game?
You answer that for me? First of all, I'm not
a fan of load management one. But if they win
the championship, if they win it, if they win it,

(01:16:50):
because you go to that same season ticket all you say,
did you not enjoy that banner up there. Did you
not enjoy you know that you were? Okay? My add
my add to that would be and if I do,
if they don't win the championship, that I want my
money back, I want a portion of it. I want
to I want to any game that I went to
home game that he sat healthy, I want to refund.

(01:17:13):
And the only way that I would refute my is
if they win the championship. But if they don't win
the championship, that I want to refund for every home
game that he voluntarily sat for load management. That would
be my attitude. If I was one of those high rollers.
It'll be interesting. All I'll say is is that Kauai

(01:17:35):
Kauai may have perfected load management. He was not the
one that started at the Warriors. Spurs and even your
best friend Lebron have been doing it for years. Six
weeks from yesterday is the very first scheduled college football game?
Is it gonna happen? We'll tell you next. Continuing on
a big Sunday, Hartman and Tourist Come Me Alive from

(01:17:56):
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know today. We know that we are scheduled to start
the Major League Baseball season on Thursday. We know that
we're scheduled to start the NBA season a week from Thursday.

(01:18:22):
We know that we are scheduled to start the college
football season six weeks from yesterday. Okay, of those three possibilities,
which one do you think is the least likely to happen?
I'll just throw it out you. I'm not gonna sway you.
The start of the Major League Baseball season this Thursday,

(01:18:42):
the start of the NBA season a week from Thursday,
or the start of the college football season six weeks
from yesterday. Which one of those three would you say
is the least likely to happen? I would say major
League baseball for sure. I'm kidding. I'm kidding, I'm kidding.
It's college football, but there are some I mean, major

(01:19:04):
League Baseball, NBA are gonna get off. But college football.
We've talked about it for months now. The variables that
play in college football that are not in play in
every other sport. Being on campus, you can't create a
bubble um. You know, as you brought up the other
day when I was filling in with for Rich. You
can't bring in replacement players. And oh, by the way,
there's travel, there's this, there's that, there's fans. They're unpaid.

(01:19:27):
So it's the least likely. I am still of the
belief and I'm like, literally the only person in the
media I think we're getting college football that first Saturday
in September. But we'll wait and see. All right, So
let's talk about logistics right now. The Big Ten already
announced that they will play conference games only, and immediately
the PAC twelve follows suit. Meanwhile, in the SEC, in

(01:19:49):
the a SEC where if you've been looking at a
map where the major outbreaks are of COVID nineteen, it's
in the south. Uh, They're like, well, we're not ready yet.
The problem we have with FPS and understand the dynamic.
Everyone's like, where's Mark Emmert, where's the president of the
n C. Why isn't he doing something? He has no
say when it comes to FBS none zero. The n

(01:20:12):
C has no connection with the made for TV playoff
that ESPN put together for college football zero none zero.
That is, they have no connection at all. So when
it comes to FBS, the n c A can't do
anything because they are an entity on their own. And then,

(01:20:33):
to further complicate things, college football is a very regional sport.
You have ten conferences calling their own shots. There is
not a governing body that oversees the FPS. It's up
to the individual conferences to make up their own mind.
Where you got ten conferences, we've already heard the Big
ten of the PAC twelve. Everyone else is sort of like, uh,

(01:20:56):
we haven't decided yet, really, so this is a big problem.
It's the only sport I know because you can talk
about Major League Baseball, NFL, all these other sports. They
have a governing body and will negotiate with players, unions
and everything else to come up with a game plan.

(01:21:17):
Whether they can pull it off, we see, at least
you have a game plan. There is no game plan
right now for college football zero. And the reason there
isn't is they don't have one governing body overseeing it.
The n c a A has no jurisdiction at all

(01:21:38):
when it comes to the FBS zero. That's why they
don't have and never have had an n c champion
in Division one football. And that is why, by the
way that I actually feel confident because there isn't one
person that can come down with a hammer and say
this is not happening. Now. The most interesting question to

(01:21:58):
me that nobody's talking about you reference to Pack twelve.
The Pack twelve really, although they shut down the day
after the Big Ten, it was for different reasons, the
big reason being that they didn't feel like they could
get their players on the field practicing in time for
the start of the season, which was proven this week
in California. Jim shut down. Schools in California get booted

(01:22:20):
out of their own facilities. Um, the most interesting thing
to me is what happens if Alabama and the SEC
just says we're going full speed ahead, We're playing the
games on our schedule. You guys do what you want,
and the PAC twelve can't play any games at all.
I think that's a possibility, but it brings the broader
question of or the broader statement of what you just said.
Nobody's in charge, which is why the SEC is saying, dude,

(01:22:43):
Big ten, you do whatever you want. Pack twelve, you
do whatever you want. Bama, go ahead and find a
replacement for USC because we're playing September four. Baby, Well
that's the problem that we have so now now you
could literally have, under the current guidelines, conference is that
don't play any games, completely shut down for the season.

(01:23:06):
I mean, we could get back to the very first
you know, last year was the one fiftieth anniversary of
college football. In college football is you know, Aaron is
my number one sport. I'm consumed by the history of
the game. We could go back to year one of
college football. The year was eighteen sixty nine. How many
games they played that year to Rutgers and Princeton. One
game was that Rutgers, One game was at Princeton. That

(01:23:28):
was the entire season. That was the entire college football season.
We actually maybe closer that in than anything we've got it.
I mean, we could have out of a hundred thirty
FPS schools, maybe half actually play games. We could have
a seven or eight games schedule scattered around, no bowl games,

(01:23:50):
no playoff, or maybe ESPN will be desperate because they've
got so much money tied up into it. They'll take
whatever they can get to throw together and now they're
made for TV playoff. But that's where we are in
college football. Here's what I would do, seriously, forget the
full forget it, forget just forget the fall. We've been

(01:24:11):
hearing this, by the way, the idea of spring football
for months. Now, just do it. Do it well. One
thing you don't want to do is to somehow start
a college football season and then have to stop at
two or three games. You are the one last Hour
that just said, well, what's gonna change on January one? Well,
Steve Hartman, what's gonna change on January one? That that

(01:24:33):
makes you feel so much better that we can start
after the new year and get in a full season
as opposed to start September one or September five. If
you reduce the season from twelve to ten games, you're
talking about a ten weeks season. I would start, even
though Sam says, are you kidding me? You're gonna start
in February. You know what the weather is like. The

(01:24:53):
weather is bad. I get it. February, March, April done.
And again, all of this is based on was science right?
What does the science tell us? Why all the science
is telling us? Maybe you're right about my whole idea here.
I guess I've been trying to follow the science here,

(01:25:15):
and now we're finding out the science doesn't matter. Because
everything the science has been telling us as far as
scheduling of COVID nineteen seems to be off. But what
I'm trying to do is get as many schools on
the same page and get their act together. As far
as what a game plan is concerned. It's too late

(01:25:37):
right now. But here we don't have a game when
you have campus is shut down. How is the pack
twelve going to have a conference schedule only when right
now we know fall classes at USC are gonna be online.
How are you gonna put together a college football team

(01:25:58):
if the campus is shut down? Where are they going
to stay? Where are they going to practice? Where are
they gonna eat? Where are they gonna meet? When is
this going to happen if the campus has been shut down?
Here the fall to go back to what you said
a half a second ago, right, Why do you believe
there will be any more unity or uniformity by playing

(01:26:19):
in the spring, Because to me, the SEC, whether we
start September one, January one, or July one, the SEC
is always putting the SEC first. The Big ten is
always putting the Big ten first, and then pretty much
after that everyone else has to fall in line. You
could say Oh, the MAC is gonna put the MAC first. No,
the MAC is gonna do whatever they can to align
themselves with the big conferences so they can get the

(01:26:40):
big paychecks. So the SEC and Big Ten and these
power conferences are always going to do whatever is best
for them. So I don't understand why moving the season
to January or February or March week one whenever. I
don't see how that makes anything any better. How do
the MAC, the Mountain West Confert, and you know, the

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Group of five conferences? How do they survive financially if
they have to eliminate Power five schools from their schedule?
But how But what makes you think that the Power
fives are any more likely to play them in January?
We thought, well, San Diego State was supposed to host
u c l A this year. So let me get
this straight. U c l A can go to Utah

(01:27:21):
or Colorado, the Washington schools, the Oregon schools, but they
can't play San Diego State, which is a two hour drive. Well,
I'll tell you that this it will be Does that
make any sense? It will be an interesting legal battle, right,
I mean, it'll be an interesting legal battle from these
small schools that are saying, how can you argue that
it's any safer if we guarantee we're going to test
the way that you test and all that stuff, and

(01:27:42):
there's uh equal balance in terms of how things are done. Um,
I think it's gonna be tough for for them to
get out of these games. But to my broader question
is you brought it up yourself. Everyone has been saying
arbitrarily that January one, even not even within the context
of college football. Outside of college football, they've been saying
j anywherey first, Um, you know, we well, maybe we'll

(01:28:03):
get things back on the quarter on the field January one.
I don't know why it's any better or why all
of a sudden the SEC cares about San Diego State
and Troy and U mass on January one in a
way that they don't now. All Right, So the schedule
games on August twenty nine, as I said, six weeks
from me yesterday, Marshall at East Carolina, Idaho State at

(01:28:27):
New Mexico, you see Davis at Nevada. Well, all of
those are still scheduled. Now. Hawaiian Arizona was canceled in Mexico,
State of U. C. L A was canceled. Call at
U NLV was canceled, but those other three games are
still scheduled. You predict those games will be played. I

(01:28:48):
can tell you with certainty, U see Davis at Nevada
is not gonna be played because you see, Davis isn't
gonna be able to practice over these next couple of
weeks to get ready for that game. Okay, yes, Sam,
so questions, so with a big ten, like you know,
I'll just use Iowa's home base. They had a game
against Northern Illinois. Northern Iowa. Are they just not going
to start their schedule until like late September and when
like they play a conference? All right, I'm gonna give

(01:29:09):
you I got a moment here. Time is always on
our side here, all right, So I'm going to um
give you, uh your Iowa schedule, so the old one
of the new one exactly actual, we don't I don't
even know what the alright, So here's here's your new
schedule right now. So your opening game was canceled, so

(01:29:30):
is your second game against Iowa State? Those aren't you all?
You will be at Minnesota on September eighteen. So that
sounds like when the season starts for the next week
against Northern llen A. That's canceled, and then you'll play
right on through uh with the rest of your Big
Ten schedule. So that is your schedule right now. You

(01:29:51):
now have a nine game schedule, but they'll add it.
They'll add a tenth conference game. That's that's what they is.
That what you're they're gonna do a big Tennis said
they're gonna play right, So, well, are you okay with that? Frankly,
I'm okay with that. You can get through the season.

(01:30:11):
It bids a little more time until I don't know
if you remember I said this last week. I said
that was actually the best possible thing that could have
happened for college football was them canceling the out of
conference games because this is the way they believe they
will get football on the field. Whether it happens is
another question, but this is how they believe it will happen.
All right. So you're Iowa. You canceled the Iowa State game,

(01:30:32):
which is an in state game at Minnesota, at Ohio State,
at Penn State, at Illinois at Purdue. Are those in
any of those schools located in Iowa. Iowa States only
about a two hour or tow and a half hour drive.
All right, So there you go. So that's your schedule.
That is your set schedule right now. All right, we're

(01:30:53):
in the Guy Go Fox Sports Radio Studios. Aaron Torres
is a big John Calipari fan. Uh are you well?
I wrote a book about him. Yeah, he's all right,
you need to add a chapter to the book. I'll
explain what it's about. Coming up next, Steve Harman, Aaron

(01:31:15):
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so many other things that Aaron Torres has done in
his career. Uh, you wrote a book about John Calipari.
Is that correct? It was about the Kentucky Wildcats, his
first team at Kentucky. So I would say he is
the protagonist of the book. Yes. By the way, just
a quick follow up on your book that year. I
interviewed Calipari on our national show right after that first

(01:32:01):
season the Boogie Cousins John Wall season, and of course
he had taken over a mess and they lost in
the Elite eight that year to West Virginia. So I
asked him about after just one year. I said, you
know a lot of people say the Kentucky job is
the single toughest coaching job in America college coaching job.

(01:32:25):
And he goes, well, let me give you an example,
he said, a few weeks after we lost in the
n C tournament, he was having a dining out and
you know, he goes, I, I don't have people walking
up to me, you know, as long as they're respectful,
you know, and he goes this, this guy comes up
and there was nothing now of the ordinary. He said,
you know, I don't want to interrupt you, coach. I

(01:32:47):
just wanted to say hi. And so he said fine,
you know, and he goes, how are you? And he goes, well,
I'll be a lot better, you know, when you make
up for this year. And he's like, make up for
this year? You mean, from not making the tournament at
all to the Elite eight in the single season. He
goes that, and that this was right after the year,

(01:33:08):
so this is literally just weeks after they got eliminated
in the n CT Tournament. So he goes, if that's
what's coming, Yeah, I'm couldn't tell you. It's gonna be
the toughest coaching job in America. So anyway, you know
Calipari well, and then this story came out just a
couple of days ago, and it was interesting the reaction
from the actual university. So Calipari is the highest paid

(01:33:30):
coach in college basketball eight point two million he brought
in during the season. However, he has not taken one
penny in pay cut during the pandemic. So that's what
the article had. It had this article about coaches that
had taken pay cuts, coaches that hadn't. And here's a

(01:33:50):
guy that's making more than any other college basketball coach
and he hasn't taken a second. I want to I
want to throw this at you because this was a
statement for him. The University of Kentucky a basketball spokesperson,
Eric lindsay, good, good guy, by the way, all right,
so this was his quote in reaction to that. He said,
and I'm trying to make sense of this. At Kentucky,

(01:34:12):
Calipari's eight point two million dollar salary also has not
been cut. In April, the school president announced that he
expected layoffs, furloughs, and temper sent budget cuts across campus
to address a seventy million dollar shortfall. During a Board
of Trustees media in June, athletic director Mitch Barnard laid

(01:34:33):
out a seventeen percent reduction to his department for the
one school year and described it as a necessary sacrifice.
So he suggested that rather than cut salaries, money could
be saved in the coming year by, among other things,
eliminating charter flights by some teens, a change that could
lead to some athletes missing an additional class time at

(01:34:55):
the return to campus this fall. So I'm not quite
sure what that explains about Caliperi other than they also
through in that only about four four hundred dollars of
that eight two million dollars comes from the athletic department.
It's their marketing partner j m I that gives them

(01:35:16):
the rest of the money. But we're really not even
talking about, you know, where the money is coming from.
It's more to me about the optics because that's that's
what people see. They see you're making eight point two
million dollars other coaches. Coach k for instance, has taken
a reduced pay, second highest paid college basketball coach, but

(01:35:40):
you're not. And then Kentucky try to fall by. He's
involved with charities and everything else. So let me ask
you about Calipari. And you know this guy. So my
question is, does he understand the optics are not good
when other people obviously are unemployed taking pay cuts, taking
reduced pay and he's not. It's a great question, I don't.

(01:36:03):
I mean, only he can speak to whether he understands
it's understands it or not. I'll throw it kind of
back to you, Steve, And I think it's kind of
an interesting conversation of if the boss never asks him
to take a pay cut, should he feel obligated. And
you know, I think most people say no, your money
is your money. But I look to the whole situation

(01:36:24):
that happened with baseball, and I was the guy on
these airwaves on Saturday nights hammering the baseball players, saying
we got forty million people unemployed, we got many others,
We got CEOs of every company taking pay cuts, and
you want to be paid the same salary you were
gonna get paid for, uh, for every game that you
play without fans in the stands, without of the revenue

(01:36:47):
coming in. So I guess the question becomes Baseball is
a little different because it was a a public back
and forth where they were not willing to draw the
line in the sand. And it feels as though Calipari
has never been asked do should you feel sort of
a moral obligation too? Because I know to me it's
easy for me to say right, but eight point two

(01:37:09):
million dollars, I mean, if you take a ten percent
pay cut, that can go a long way. So I
don't know. It's not even about Calipari. I think it's
a broader question of should these guys that are not
being asked to take a pay cut, should they feel
the moral obligation to do something, which again brings up
the optics which you brought up. Let me give you
an optics recall Less moon Viz, the disgraced former head

(01:37:33):
of CBS. So we I worked for the CBS affiliate
in Los Angeles and we moved into brand new studios
in Studio City, brand new building, and Moonvez decided that
he would love to have his own office in this building.
So it was a multi level building, and so our
television station was on the lower level and the upper

(01:37:54):
level where these executive offices highlighted by less Moon Vesta's office. Okay, okay,
And they poured three million dollars into the building of
his office. And on the day that they had sort
of a office swarming party with all these big wigs

(01:38:16):
that loose less Moonvez the exact day he did that,
they not only were laying off people downstairs, they weren't
even allowed to bring with them their personal items that
they would be sent to them the exact same day.
Talk about so here's the guy. He's having this big,

(01:38:36):
you know, alphice swarming party, three million dollars. And then
the exact same day, people were being shown the door,
literally shown the door and any personal items they had
at their desk, will send them to you as they
were being escorted out of the building. And then the
follow up to that was a week later he decided

(01:38:58):
I don't really dig this place, and he actually never
used it. Three million dollars sunk into it. Okay, So
this is the problem again. When you are fortunate and
you can say, well, he's earned it and everything else.
And when you talk about the revenue that is generated
by the Kentucky basketball program, I've said this about Nick Saban.
I've said this about they're actually underpaid. Nick Saban is

(01:39:21):
grossly underpaid considering the hundreds of millions of dollars that
that football program brings into that university. So his eight
million dollar salaries low. But it is about the optics.
And so you're right, he hasn't an asked to take
a pay cut. But do you think that he would

(01:39:43):
be the kind of person that would say, Okay, no
one's asking me to do anything. And he can say, well,
I'm helping to raise money for this and that and
everything else. But if you were to say, look, you
know what, I'm gonna take a pay cut voluntarily, and
every penny of that's to go into COVID nineteen research,
don't you think that works for you? Oh? Yeah, no,

(01:40:05):
I do, especially when you've been making big money as
many years as he has. Well, and that's the other
thing too, is that he's not thirty eight years old
and this is his first big paycheck. I mean, his
three kids are all basically out of school. His son
is a senior this year in college. He's made more
money than he can ever spend. He's got a lifetime contract. Um,
I don't know if I don't I don't know if

(01:40:28):
I blame him for not volunteering it. But I do
think it's probably the right thing to do. I really do.
And I'm not like I'm not. This is one you know, Steve,
we come on this air and we're expected to have
I'm on one side or the other, and this is
one where I like, I kind of see both sides.
It's not because I wrote a book on him. It's

(01:40:48):
not like I have a great relationship. If we had
coach on coach callan and I just simply asked him,
why have you not taken a pay cut? And if
his answer is, well know and has asked me to,
would that be his answer? Most likely? I think so yeah,
And I you know, the one thing I'll say and
then I say, means somebody has to ask you to
take a pay cut. It's fair. I mean, listen, there's

(01:41:10):
coaches all over the country and this is this was
my argument with the baseball players, is that we have
CEOs showing up every day to work that took pay cuts.
Baseball players weren't even playing at the time, and there
are CEOs of companies that took pay cuts, uh and
are still showing up to work, maybe working even harder.
Same with everyone across the country. So I'm i'm I

(01:41:32):
lean more towards with you in terms of it's kind
of something you probably don't need to be asked. The
university is struggling, they said, they're you know, they're gonna
cut seventeen percent of the budget. And so whether it
directly save someone's job or whether it does just allow
filling the blank thing to happen, I think it's probably

(01:41:53):
the right thing to do to say, you know, skim
a little bit off. Well, that was my whole thing
about the move of his office. You want to spend
three million on the offense? Has great, but at the
very same time, people are being laid off lose their
jobs because there's not enough money. And you can sink in,
is the head of the network three million dollars in
an office that you never used? Wow? Okay, bad optics?

(01:42:14):
Was I soft there? Did I go too easy on it? No?
You didn't, I think you That's all I'm trying to
get it from you because you you know him better
than almost anybody, certainly anyone listen here, Uh is what
his reaction would be to all of that? I think
you explained it. Well, all right, we're the guy go
Fox Sports RADI Studios. Oh, let's find out it's trending
right now, we bring back Mr David Gascon. I will

(01:42:39):
never forget that day. What the cid S affiliate U
in Studio City. Can you imagine this guy Moonvez and
he's up there and he's having a big office hoarming
for it is They're literally walking people out of the building.
It was unbelievable. It really was unbelievable. You've seen some stuff, yeah,
I mean, but this is this is the connect from

(01:43:01):
people that are not worried about their next meal as
opposed to the vast majority of people that are. Yeah,
no doubt about it. Speaking of which, how many people
do you know work in the industry? Is still that
intern for you? Well? Just about I mean Ben Maller
Be Mallar was an intern. I'm not directing with my
show Ben Maller Here about Ben Um obviously is uh

(01:43:26):
Lee lead to lap just about almost how many producers here? Yeahvin?
Do you think had some connection. Anyone that's had any
success producing here has worked under you. Yes, it was
that kind of that was a weird compliment. I don't
even think it was intended that way. No, it was, well, no,
I mean everyone starts somewhere. Yeah, so no, we I

(01:43:49):
will say this, the overwhelming majority of interns we've had
over these many years, I have done a great job,
and we've both And the great thing I've always said
this about Fox Sports Radio. If you do a really
good job as an intern here, people will take notice, Yes,
and and they do advance from within. They've always been

(01:44:10):
good about that here. I think that's been a great
situation and it certainly tends to lead to a lot
of loyalty to the organization. I think that's remember times, Steve.
I know we haven't had him months. I know, Yeah, Steve, Steve,
I interned for you back in the day when I
was at Senego State you were I think it's k
cal that's right, like two thousand four two. They don't

(01:44:34):
have TV interns anymore. Those are gone. Yeah, Hartman doesn't
even remember. That's how many interns. Because we had these
like half we had these split schedules and We're only
there for three or four hours a day logging tape
for Major League Baseball on on VHS. I don't know
if you know what that is, Aaron No and I

(01:44:58):
I think the internship program ms are vital. But they
changed the laws, you know about unpaid internships and everything else.
Here in school you get some time, it's not the same.
I think it's a big mistake. Even if they asked
the interns once a while to get a cup of coffee,
I don't know. I never understand why. Why was that
a wrong thing? You know, sort of like being part

(01:45:21):
of the family, like you're the new kid on the block.
When I when I got hired by the Raiders, do
you know what they had They had me do all
the dirty work and that was really dirty. That was uh,
they had me do some weird things and we can disclose. Well,
I'll tell you one very quick story. So my we
are um when my first year on the road with

(01:45:43):
the Raiders. So I was incredibly excited that Fenny super
Bowl champions and I'm on the road right and all
the goodies. But they asked me to bring along this
videotape equipment. And I mean this was like it was
alwayn't just a suitcase. This was like a shrunk of equipment.
And everywhere we went I had to find somewhere to

(01:46:05):
get this thing set up. So I'm towing this huge
thing on all these road trips. The ib dia being
is is that we would watch a videotape of the
game on the flight home, except we never did, even
the games we won. So in essence, they basically made
me do this for no reason at all to do it.
But I remember like going to my high stadium and

(01:46:27):
I'm trugging along this thing. I'm panting, trying to find
some area, and they were just testing. That's what it
was all about. Where they did they ever treat you
like you were a gopher? It like you need to
go find some some single ladies that I cannot uh.
I will say this, though, the radar at tryouts would

(01:46:50):
not hold up under the curtain scrutiny in this country.
Let's put it out on I'm pretty sure like nothing
from the eighties. Yeah, the eighties, uh, but not especially
with the showtime makers. I was watching an old episode
of Married with Children the other day. I mean, you
couldn't get through thirty seconds of that show on air
right now. But I loved it, So they replay that
in syndication, don't they. I see it late nights on

(01:47:11):
random channels. It'll get canceled soon. Try try but yeah,
the things that transpired at the radar red tryouts would
never in social media and everything and anybody treat anyone
decently in the eighties, I mean and beyond back hundreds
of years passage, Gerrold Strawberry, the face of the guys
that the memorial. John ram is still the leader, who's

(01:47:33):
at twelve under par through four holes. Ryan Palmeral Palmer's
at minus eight for now is at minus seven. NFL
news Day is a boatload of players taking to social
media saying that they will play obviously. They want the
NFL to have a plan, the will legit plan against
the coronavirus moving forward. Major League Baseball, the NBA, the
Anhel also have plans in place. Former Nebraska wide receiver G. D.

(01:47:56):
Spielman has transferred to TCU. We lived a team last
year in Yards and Catches. Major League Baseball is getting
back to work next week. Anthony Rendone gonna be questionable
for Opening Day with the Angels. He's got oblique soreness
that has been scratched the last three days. All right,
very very good, Thank you very much, David. Once again,
we're coming alive from the guy. Go Fox Sports Radio Studios.

(01:48:17):
Easy to say more in car insurance with Geico, go
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seven auto. The only hard part figuring out which way
is easier. Can somebody explain to me how this Lebron
James Rookie card one for eight point one point eight
million dollars. I saw the headline. I'm still trying to
figure this out. So this is a rookie card the
OH three oh for Lebron James upper Deck Rookie patch

(01:48:41):
parallel card solid auction for one point eight four five
million dollars. How is that possible? I'm with you. I
saw that headline and I was like, there's nothing. It's
not a rare card. I mean, it is autographed. But

(01:49:01):
and doesn't the guy he's gonna do, He's gonna set
up some weird They said there were only twenty three
of this card produced and it was a Grade and
nine point five mint gem by Beckett. M M. I'm
trying to do you do you do you collect Are
you a collector at all? Yeah? When I was like
nine years old, did you keep anything or do you
have any collectibles that you come on too? Because you know, no,

(01:49:27):
I got a couple of bobble heads that you know,
for the office, but other than that. Now, I have
a framed autograph Lebron James Jersey um from from when
he started with the casts, like from his it's framed auto.
I wonder he thinks, what you'll defend this. I don't.

(01:49:47):
I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't
put price tags and any I mean there's you know,
I mean it's it's hangs on the walls actually in
my son's room. It's sort of cool. But I mean
there are these things I mean I have. I have
two auto graph Muhammad All League gloves. That's pretty cool. Yeah,
those would sell for a lot, that was if you
were inclined to sell them. I have a Kemba Walker

(01:50:09):
signed Yukon Sports Illustrated cover when they won the championship.
That's pretty cool, you know, I have, you know, my
coolest thing. I wrote an article about Nick Saban after
he won his second championship at Alabama that was the
one where we talked about this. Last week, they played
L s U in the regular season, lost and then
came back and destroyed them, and I just basically wrote

(01:50:29):
this article. This was Saban's finest moment whatever. A fan
who is friends with him showed him the article and
he said, thanks for the kind words, Aaron, That's the
coolest thing I got. How about you, Gavin, are you
I've never even asked you. Are you a collector? I am,
but not sports stuff Like I'm a big comic book
reader and fans since I was a kid. Do you

(01:50:51):
do it as an investment or? You just do it
because you want a lot of my young teenage years
at San Diego Comic Con and I would wait in
lines to get books signed by these writers and artists,
and I have a lot of them framed or tucked
away and hopefully that we were pretty penny someday we'll see. Yeah. Collector,

(01:51:13):
I mean collecting for profit. I mean the idea they're
an investment for the future. I do well. So I
have a very large Pezz dispenser collection d pet dispensers.
I also, just for a fun, I collected pocket knives, pins,
shot glasses, did you guys see the Mark McGuire Seammy
Sosa documentary? Okay, in the beginning, there was a collector,

(01:51:36):
Todd McFarland. He had the seventieth home run ball, remember
very well because no one will ever hit seventy again.
That man is one of the original Marvel writers. He
created his own company called Image Comics. Todd McFarland also
has a toy company, So I have spawned uh comics
by him that I've met him. And wait a second,

(01:51:59):
that ball, when I'm mediately completely evaporated in value. Yeah,
I mean there is no market for the Mark McGuire
seventy at home run, But for him, I think it
meant a lot to him and he wanted to have that.
But but at the time he was thinking, he wasn't
just thinking, Hey, I like to have the ball. You're
you're investing that kind of money. We will never see

(01:52:19):
I mean, the record had gone from sixty one to seventy.
You're like, we will never see anybody hit seventy again.
Three yards later we did. Did you see? The article
came out about six months ago, around the Heisman time.
The Curse of o J's second Heisman Trophy, the one
that didn't see it's so good. So for people don't
know the school it was. I think it was like
the first year that the school gets one, and then

(01:52:41):
the player got one, and the schools one got stolen.
But everybody who stole it kind of had to keep
it in hiding. They couldn't tell anybody, and so it
ended up with and I'm not being facetious, a homeless
guy was like dragging it around the streets of l A.
Eventually the USC recovered it. But the you know, the
one that o J had to sell, the guy who

(01:53:02):
bought it, it was this big, you know, it was
the center of his house, this and that, and then
all of a sudden he was just inundated with so
many requests that it was just like he just put
he just has it in a storage locker and he's
trying to get rid of it because he it was.
It was like basically the dual curse of the o. J. Heisman's.
It was one of the best articles that I've read

(01:53:22):
in years. Go back and read it. Yeah, by the way,
the reason they did that, By the way, Steve Spurrier,
who won the Heisman two years before o J. He
gave the heisman to the school. Oh is that what
it was? So immediately when he wanted, he gave it
to the school. And that's when the heisman people said, well,
let's let's do Let's make two heismans each year, one
for the winner, one for the school. Very interesting stuff.

(01:53:44):
I just I'm just curious because I'm looking at this,
this Lebron card and again I my my collectibles. There
there's a couple of things I have. Well one real quick. Um,
it's a long story of Bob Costas, but it has
to do with d cents he borrowed from me in
three um, when I worked with him his first year

(01:54:06):
at NBC as a stat guy. And and if he's
listening right now, he's gonna say, are you gonna tell
this story for the one million time? But it was
the fall up to this whole thing. So it was
an ongoing deal where he borrowed fifty cents to play
pac Man at the airport. Bob Costas and but ine,
that's that was the game. He didn't every change a

(01:54:26):
game fifty cents. So I sort of years later, I
got into radio and I would bring up the story
in east to say, I think he got your fifty
cents out of this story, Hartman, Okay, after this. So
years later, I was at the Super Bowl in Houston.
I'm in radio row. This is an O four and
I'm standing there and this guy with the baseball cap
comes up and he said, are we even? And I

(01:54:48):
didn't really turn around, and then I turned around and
it was Costas. So I looked at Bob and I said, actually,
you still haven't paid me back. So he pulled a
dollar bill out of his pocket and he signed it
paid in full with interest, Bob Costas, and I obviously
framed that dollar bill. So that's one of my prize possessions.

(01:55:11):
That's the most story. Isn't that a Bob cost Of story?
All Right? We're in the Guy Go Fox Sports Radio Studios.
Forget cost Us right now, although he does love baseball
and what to do if you're Mike Trout and how
his decision for this season hangs over the game. Coming
up next, Steve Harman and Aaron Torres were coming live

(01:55:34):
from The Guy Go Fox Sports Radio Studios. So let's
say NBA restarts and Lebron James says, I'm gonna sit
it out, or let's say the NFL season begins and
Patrick Mahomes said I'm gonna sit this one out. Those

(01:55:54):
will be big stories. Right if Lebron said I'm gonna
sit it out, don't feel good about this, I'm sitting
it out, or again Patrick Mahomes says, you know what,
I'm gonna wait till next season, those would be unbelievably
big stories. The biggest name in baseball is Mike Trout.
We still don't really know what Trout's gonna do. We

(01:56:16):
know he has a pregnant wife expecting their first child.
He has publicly stated he's not a percent comfortable with
the whole idea of the current situation in the Major
League Baseball season. But let me ask you, Aaron, do
you think that if Aaron, if ultimately he were to
step away and say, you know what, I'll see you
next season, would it have the same impact as the

(01:56:38):
biggest names in other sports following a similar path. No,
it absolute wouldn't. I mean, and we can get into
the conversation why. But to answer your question directly, I'll
bounce it back to you. If Mike Trout and Lebron
James announced on the same day, We're not joining this,
this re restart. I don't even know if we would
talk about Mike Trout, obviously Lebron would be the only

(01:57:01):
story in sports them That's a problem for baseball. I agree,
baseball has become a very regional sport, and even here
in the southern California area, knowing that the best player
in the game statistically already with the upper echelon to
have ever played the game, It's not like people are

(01:57:22):
talking about Mike Trout in the streets. I mean, when
you talk about star power in the city Los Angeles,
Trout is where is he? I mean he's is he
right with Kyle Kuzma or I mean he's below Kyle Kuzma.
I think Kyle Kuzma. I think he's below Clayhill. And
I think if if people saw the two of them
walking together, people would identify more with Clay Hell and

(01:57:44):
Chip Kelly let alone Lebron, Kauai, Paul George Anthony Crazy
is that if we're not just talking about Trout is
a historic player when you look at what he's accomplished
in the first less than a decade in his career.
I mean, the guys won three m vps and he's
been a runner up like four times. That's crazy stuff.

(01:58:05):
But you're right, I mean, it's it's it's just amazing.
And this this is a problem for well maybe it's
a problem, but maybe it's not a problem. The fact
is that and largely more and more of baseball players
are relatively nationally anonymous. The game goes on baseball player.
You know, I saw Clayton Kershaw walk through the Burbank
Airport and nobody noticed. That was what I was yelling

(01:58:29):
from back here knowing name another player that would be
more recognized, like Aaron Judge in New York, probably because
of his height, right, his size, Mike Trout, I mean
in Anaheim, they know him. But Jeter is the last.
He is the last national baseball superstar. He really is.
All Right, we're in the Guy Go Fox Sports Radio Studios.

(01:58:50):
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Next Sunday, we're gonna have Major League Baseball games the count.
The Sunday after that, NBA games that count, they go
on the record books. That's what's coming up here very
shortly in the sports world. Aaron Torres second consecutive, were

(01:59:32):
hanging out. Yeah, it's fun doing double duty because you
know he does that late show with Arnie regular on
Fox Sports Radio. That's my shift. How many? How many?
How many? How long have you been with Arnie? Now?
About two and a half years, so my first fill
in shift was actually the day that you and I
got booted out of studio. My first fill in was

(01:59:53):
July four Arnie and I started March eighteen, so about
two years and change. What did you know about Ernie
Spanner before you got hooked up with him? All I
knew is everybody else claimed that he was a radio icon,
And then I worked with the guy and I was like,
you must be talking about somebody else, But no, I

(02:00:15):
mean I still to this day, you know, you have
no you know, you get tweets in during the show.
How dare you talk to Arnie like that? He's a legend? Well,
you know, everybody. Everybody has an expiration date, you know,
and you know Arnie's. But I'm kidding Arnie. I know
he's listening. He loves me, he loves We talk all
the time. During the week. We we have a you know,
it's a good show for people who aren't up at

(02:00:37):
that time. It's kind of like the son arguing with
his crazy old dad at the Thanksgiving dinner table. You know,
It's like it never gets We have fun. Sometimes I
call him out on his nonsense, but we have a
good time. He's a fun guy to work with. He's
taught me a lot, so I really do genuinely enjoy
working with him. That's not how I really got started.

(02:00:57):
When I was with Chet forty, it was uh, you know,
twenty three years my senior, and he was an old grizzle,
legendary ABC guy, and he, you know, and I always
looked younger than I was, and he said, he's just kid,
and and I stood up to him and we would
be screaming in each other. I remember thinking, because I
was pretty much new to the business, thinking like, this

(02:01:17):
is gonna be the shortest radio career ever. Because I
never heard two people screen the way we do. There
was no social media, so we didn't have the back
and forth. I would say things like, I go listen,
old man, if you say one more stupid thing, I
swear to God, I'm gonna hit you so hard I'm
gonna knock into tomorrow. And then he would storm out
of the studio during the and he got I'm now
working one more day with his kid? Do you understand

(02:01:39):
that one more day? Cry is the opposite here? He
really got heated. The one good thing about art is
he takes it all in stride. I think I said
something now. I said something last night about Oh he
said that we're talking about the snitch line, and he
goes taures. We did a vote, silent Pole, you weren't involved. Uh,
you are the most one most likely to snitch, and

(02:02:02):
you're the one most likely to call the bosses and
tell on one of one of your one of your
one of your people here for breaking the rules. And
I said, if the bosses listen to me, I've been
calling him and telling them to get you off the
air since the day we started. And he just starts
cracking up. Sorry, Well, you know, I'm glad you mentioned
the snitch hotline to get us. Dwight Howard apparently was victimized. Well,

(02:02:24):
when you walk around without a mask and put it
on Instagram, that's how this It didn't take everyone's like
somebody called, they didn't have to you were posting it. Yes. Um,
I will say this though, under the um guys of
what's going on down there in the bubble, I wouldn't
hesitate seriously. I mean, they're trying to create a a

(02:02:48):
situation that is not a full proof, but they're trying
to make it as close to as possible. I mean,
they're only a little over a week into this, right ye,
and we haven't even gotten Now we're gonna have exhibition
games this week in the NBA. I believe they start
on Wednesday and they're gonna go through like and then
of course two days later we're gonn actually get the

(02:03:10):
games going. But yeah, I mean, as far as this
bubble situation, I think so far it's been pretty good. Yep. Well,
and by the way, I got some video. I saw
a video last night of the hotel that who is it?
That described as the Motel six D Rondo Are you

(02:03:31):
kidding me? It's beautiful and as a gorgeous hotel. Yeah. No,
and and uh, I give so much credit some of
these guys, you honest. Pushed back, he said, my room
is smaller. My room is bigger than the one bedroom
apartment that I grew up in with my four brothers. Yeah.
Some of these guys are grateful. Some of these guys
are appreciative. Uh. Some described as prison food. Yeah. That,

(02:03:53):
and that's what I said, is like, I'm not Mr,
I'm offended by everything. R Smith though that did the
rant about you know, I don't know if he was
joking or what. Complimenting the food. Well, j R. Smith
was definitely crushing the food. And then uh, somebody anonymously
sent a picture of Jeff good to Jeff Goodman from Stadium,
the college hoops guy, and said, this food is quote

(02:04:14):
unquote trash, and like, I'm not Mr. Get offended by everybody,
But I'm like, dude, eighteen million kids a year. You
can look it up. Every eighteen million kids a day
in America go to bed hungry. You're really complaining about
a three course meal because it's not, you know, prepared
by a world class chef. Calmed down. I think the
cooler heads have prevailed and then the other thing with
the bubble was is that it was only the first

(02:04:36):
two or three days while they were quarantined that they
had to eat the prison food. Once they get out
of quarantine, they can go around the facility. They have
a more and steakhouse, they have this, they have that,
so there's plenty of good dining options. So it was
it was tough to listen to some of the complaints
over those the first couple of days. Again, everything once
the games begin, once they get back on the court,
once they're competing against somebody else, all of that noise

(02:04:56):
goes bye bye. All right, So you're a a new place,
you're getting adjusted to your new environment. Once they get
to the court, we're gonna get to basketball. And by
the way, here's a quick question for you. So I
saw Frank Vogel the NBA made this announcement that the
NBA Awards have already been voted on or will be

(02:05:18):
voted on. They're not going to include these eight regular
season games. Remember all these NBA awards are regular season
awards anyway, but they're not going to include these eight games.
So it's going to be based on what happened when
the league shut down our March twelve, so that's the
cut off line. And Frank Vogel was very emphatic that

(02:05:39):
he feels that Lebron James should be named as the
most Valuable Player of this NBA season. He also said
Anthony Davis should be named the defensive Player of the year.
So if you were to fill out, knowing that it's
through the games of well, the last game was March eleven. Um,

(02:06:01):
who would you vote for MBA's m v P. Who
was the m v P this year? See, I actually
do believe it was Lebron James. I do, And I
know Janice had an incredible statistical season and all that stuff,
but they kind of just picked up where they left
off when lost. Record was maybe a game or two
better than it was last year. But Lebron, as much
as he whatever, the opposite of elevated last year was

(02:06:23):
it is a completely new team, a completely new coaching staff,
and he has him in first place in the West.
I would have no problem if you assist and leading
league assists, I would mean point guard. Yeah, and he's
and he's playing every night, unlike certain other superstars in
l A, which I defend, but no, I would have
no problem if he got I would have It's another one.

(02:06:43):
I know we want strong, definitive opinions. If they give
it to your honest, I see the argument for your honest,
If they give it to Lebron, I see the argument
for Lebron, who personally, if I had a vote, I
would give it to Lebron. You. Oh, I I have
no question as Lebron James, I really don't. And again
in your seventy season the league of leading the league
and assist um the way he was able to incorporate

(02:07:05):
Anthony davilis Davis flawlessly uh and and get him involved. No,
I I think he is again most valuable player. I mean,
by the very that's always been the question. Is the
most valuable player the best player on the best team. Well,
that's not it to me is if I could stick

(02:07:25):
this player on any team, who would make the biggest
impact on any team. And it goes back to what
we were saying earlier in the show, which is that
if if it was that, if it was just about
the most important player, Lebron would have like twelve of
them in a row at this point, right, And I
always appreciate this back in the Gretzky's day in the eighties,

(02:07:48):
he won the MVP Award eight straight years. Wow, I
did not know in a row as he should have. Sure,
because they you know what, Jordan, it was ridiculous, like
they gave it to Barkley Wood year or they gave
it a Karl Malone one year. Really you think they're
more valuable than Michael Jordan's Some of these writers, these

(02:08:10):
media people, we'll get to spread it around. Now you don't.
It's not it's not yours to decide who just spread
it around to The question is who's the most valuable Player?
Do you agree though, that it should be a regular
season award or should it be awarded in the post?
I have no problem with this, and that I'll say
why because I will make the argument if you're looking

(02:08:31):
at someone's resume, that I put a lot more stock
in a NBA Finals MVP than I do a regular
season m v P. They are separate seasons. I really
do believe that. And because not every team makes it
to the postseason, all these awards and all these sports
are and I and you know it's like the the
Heisman Trophy is a regular season awards. We know there

(02:08:55):
have been a lot of Heisman winners. If the vote
had been taken after bowl games, they'd have to give
it back. Sure, I mean I can give a lot
of examples of that. Um. So, No, I have no
problem with that. I really don't. I I it is
what it is. It's a regular season award, and then
you have postseason awards. No, and I and I agree
with that, and that is why, uh, you know, and

(02:09:16):
that's why Lebron doesn't have more. It's why Kobe has one, right,
you know. I mean it's just like you look at
the situation with Lebron. It's like if if we really
did it with the postseason. Um, I mean, how many
of those Calves teams were so bad that he got
to the finals? So I have no objection to keeping
it to the regular season. Otherwise, no one else whatever.
Social justice obviously is something that the n b A

(02:09:38):
is very active about. What did you make of Lebron,
Anthony Davis other players deciding to opt out on the
whole social justice phrases that were made available to them.
I am a believer that frankly, most athletes, and I've
been around athletes, you know, I've been covering teams and

(02:10:01):
games and events since I was in college, so ten
fifteen years now, right. And most athletes I do not
believe want to be activists. They just want to play.
They want to play football, they want to play baseball,
they want to play basketball, and they've almost been put
into this, this position where they have no choice but
to be If you're not you know, if you don't

(02:10:21):
have the phrase on the back of your jersey, you're
not with us. If you don't kneel, you're not with us.
And so I actually give those guys credit. Now, the
Lebron things a little interesting because he said he wanted
a different phrase, the NBA didn't improve it. But I
don't believe that it is a player's obligation to be
an activist on top of a professional athlete. We don't ask, uh,

(02:10:42):
you know, uh, you know, whoever is the biggest activist
now to also go play forty minutes a night in
the NBA. And I don't understand why we expect our
basketball players or our baseball and football players to do
the same. I think you nailed it head on and
the idea of the if you're not all in and
you're against us and it's like, that's not the case case.
I support you, but I may not be comfortable. I

(02:11:04):
don't want to do this public display. And they're like, no, no, no,
if you're not all in, then you're against us. Well
and that that is simply not fair. And I I
applaud Lebron James whatever his motivation was, because when you're
the biggest name in the league, and as you said,
he said the idea of freedom of speech, and then
you're giving me these are my choices, that's not freedom

(02:11:27):
of speech. When you when you don't tell me you
choose one of these, that's not that's not flying with me. Well.
It was really interesting because just last week before I
came in to do this show, uh, they were replaying
the last dance and it was so crazy because it
was that one little segment I happened to just catch
it where there was the Republicans by sneakers too, And

(02:11:50):
if you actually listened to Michael Jordan's explanation, it wasn't
that I am pandering two Republicans. It was that I
didn't really know the guy that you wanted me to
go to bad for. I didn't really know what he
was about. And I and this was an exactuit. He said,
I never saw myself as an activist. I think that
should actually be applauded. I don't think that every this

(02:12:12):
is the problem. And I'm a millennial and so it's
part of my generation. I say this all the time.
People in my generation and younger think that they have
to have an opinion on everything, and they have to
let everyone know what that opinion is. It's okay. It's
okay to sit on the sidelines. It's okay to say
I don't have enough facts or information to have an

(02:12:32):
educated conversation about whatever the topic is. It could be
Lakers versus Clippers, it could be a political thing, it
could be a social justice thing. It's okay, but it is.
I think my generation and younger feels like I have
to have an opinion on it. I gotta let the
world know. It's okay, sit it out. The world will
move on if you do not post about this on Instagram.

(02:12:54):
Your old school like that bring and I just thought
it was such a point centrist. I thought it was
such a poignant moment by Michael Jordan. He's like, I'm
not an activist. I'm about I'm pouring my soul into
feel the same woman. Barkley back in the day said,
I'm not a role model. I don't think he should be.
I also don't think by the way, in this cancel culture,

(02:13:17):
I find it so interesting that Drew Brees says he
doesn't want to stand for the national anthem. Oh, we
tear him apart, or he will stand for the national anthem,
which he then apologized for, we tear him apart. Charles
Barkley has been arrested multiple times, including for drunk driving,
and he is America sweetheart. It just makes no sense.
And so I am old school. Yeah, I'm sure Drew

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Brees has a great sense of human He had a
great sense of human when he's spent on the kid.
Remember that with Charles Barkley. Yeah, he actually spit on
a kid. That's that's he's a funny guy. And I
and even comedians that are under fire these days, I
mean they're they're they're you know, the PC police are
canceling these comedians all over the place, and they're fighting
out and they're fighting back. And that's what I'm saying.

(02:13:59):
I don't think we shoul canceled Charles Barkley because of
something he did twenty years ago. But I don't think
it makes Drew Brees the worst person in the world
if he wants to to stand for the national anthem
honors grandfa. All right, we're in the Guy Go Fox
Sports Radio Studios carrying over to the NFL, which finally
has to address what's your game plan? Because this is
the week when training camps open. This week, we'll give

(02:14:21):
you the latest. Coming up next. Steve Harvin and Aaron
Towards were coming alive from the Guy Go Fox Sports
Radio Studios. Hey, we're gonna get an up to update
from John Paul moross E JP Fox Sports Radio major
League Baseball insider as we get ready for the start
of the baseball season on Thursday. Cannot wait for that.

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One of the big stories today has been the fallout
of the NFL laying out some ground rules for the
upcoming opening of training camps, and the fact is players
are not happy at all. Players have been blasting the

(02:15:07):
NFL's COVID nine team response and what apparently is a
coordinated effort from some of their biggest stars, Drew Brees,
Russell Wilson, J J. Watt. How about listen to this
one here? From Stefon Diggs. He said, if Adam Silver
can respect the voices and protect his NBA players, why

(02:15:29):
can't the NFL commission do the same. Listen to your players.
If we want to have a full season, it will
have to look different. With our safety as the priority,
NFL make the necessary changes. There are really nothing in
the NFL guidelines other than do the right thing, did

(02:15:52):
in any way guarantee the safety of the NFL players. Nothing. Yeah,
I'm just kind of over this public private bickering. If
you remember, it's funny we talked Mike Trout last hour
because if you remember, the MLB players did this exact
same thing. We want to play, tell us when and where,

(02:16:13):
and then the owners told them when and where. Oh no, no, no,
that's not really good enough. So we're gonna go back
to the negotiating table, you know, by the way Mike
Trout went and where. Two months later, he's still not
sure he wants to play. So to me, I get
what the players are trying to do. They're trying to
get public support on their side. They're trying to get
guys like you and I to talk about them and
come to their defense. And I get it. You want

(02:16:35):
to be safe. Russell Wilson has a a newborn baby
on the way. You know his wife is currently pregnant.
That goes for a lot of players across the league.
I just don't want it in public. What did I
just say last segment? You don't need every little emotion
on social media? Okay, just tell me when you're gonna.
I don't care, like I just don't care. Well, and
and you know who else doesn't care. The NFL they

(02:16:57):
have the players where they want him, the new collective
bargaining agreements in the books, they got them, and so
their attitude is very simple. Hey, if you don't want
to play, don't And by the way, if you don't play,
you don't get paid. We'll stick someone else in there.

(02:17:19):
Well that's not gonna work. Yeah, well it's the NFL.
You don't think that you said that a few times.
You don't think the failures of the a F and
XFL kind of proved that, Like I know, we watch
for the Shield and for the Packers. Were not watching
the Packers solely because of Aaron Rodgers. But you don't
think if if a bunch of shlubs that you never

(02:17:41):
heard of through on Chiefs and Titans and Raiders jerseys.
You think the ratings would be the exact same. The
reason that the a F and the XFL failed is
the NFL. Sure, the power of the shield is immeasurable.
Players come and go, they really do. They're not hanging

(02:18:02):
their hat on a Patrick Mahomes or Tom Brady to
get eyeballs. I mean, we we we They look at
the numbers they get for the Pro Bowl, like nobody
is literally a touch football game. As long as you
got that NFL label on it, people are gonna watch.
And you cannot underscore the gambling aspect of this. But

(02:18:23):
there was gambling in the a F and the XFL too,
but they weren't the NFL, but the NFL. The NFL
never even give him a chance to take root. But
the NFL is at the NFL. If you don't know
any of the guys on the team, like, are you
going to make a financial investment? Are you gonna bet
on the Chiefs if you've literally never heard of any

(02:18:45):
player on the team. Remember how the economics of the
NFL work. It's about the television money. They're not gonna
stop televising games. No, I get it, And even if
they get lesser ratings, they'll still get bigger numbers than
anything else. That is a fair counterpoint. That is fair,
so that that that everything is in perspective. Remember a

(02:19:07):
couple of years ago there was a dip in the
ratings and they were trying to blame that taking the
knee during the national anthem and was turning off a
lot of people. Yeah, but the numbers are still incredibly
bigger than any but anything else in sports. They may
have been down by NFL standards, but compared to Major
League Baseball in the NBA, they were still in the stratosphere.

(02:19:29):
So you know, again, the players can make all the
noise they want, and the NFL really is not going
to change. By the way, if you're the NFL, what
more do you want us to do? And and if
there was, if there was some clear path of something
we could do to guarantee that's a big word, guarantee

(02:19:50):
the safety of the players, we would do it. But
there isn't fair counter point. There's going to be risk involved,
by the way, every time you walk on that field,
there's risk much more than any other sport. So what
do you want to do? You know, we could point
out the numbers. The odds of you, as a healthy

(02:20:12):
twenty thirty something year old male of dying from COVID
nineteen are astronomical, astronomically low, astronomically low being a healthy
twenty to thirty year old of dying from COVID nineteen. So,
by the way, this cracks me up about the conversation

(02:20:34):
about college football as well. So, well, what happens when
somebody dies? Listen, I don't want anybody to die, just
just just let's like, let's put that on the table.
Nobody wants anybody to die. But we have now done
thousands of tests across these college campuses across America. One
the vast majority you're coming back negative. We don't have

(02:20:55):
an exact number. It's impossible to know. I would comfortably
say well over ninety present at this point they're coming back.
And oh, by the way, as of right now, nobody
has even been hospitalized, let alone. Now we're talking about like,
there's a lot of steps that we have to get
to to somebody dies. So I don't mean to be unsympathetic.
I know people listening have dealt with this, have family

(02:21:16):
members that dealt with it. But we're talking about world
class athletes with world class medical treatment available to them.
The numbers are just minisco. And by the way, you're
talking about twenty and thirty year olds that don't have
access to a team of medical doctors at their beck
and call physicians, you know, nutrition, on and on. So
go ahead, and all right, well, no we're in the guy.

(02:21:38):
Go Fox Sports Radio Studios. We're gonna get an update
on Major League Baseball. Friend John Paul Morossi on the
other side. But let's find out what's trending right now
as we welcome back the one, the Only, David Gasconnell.
You guys are animated about this thing. Well, I mean again,
I mean, if you're saying my life's at risk, is
it that's to risk every time you walk out the door? Right?

(02:22:03):
I think the one thing is gonna make sure that,
no matter what happens is don't go into a nursing home. Yeah,
you have the Book of the deaths in New York. Yeah,
well that's everywhere. It's l a county at one point. Yeah.
Sound argan, Uh, Steve, don't forget. You gotta ask JP
about some NHL stuff too. All right, I will about
the restarting Canada. Smart move by them anyways, guys, going

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John Paul Morossi and JP before we get to the
start of the Major League Baseball season, Gascon. Once it
we will deliver for him give us the latest on
the restart of the NHL season. Well, we will see
the NHL playoffs resume or begin, I should say, with

(02:23:51):
the with the qualifying round there later later on and
actually the first weekend of August. Uh. They we do
have some pre tournament game if you will, that will
be taking place before then to get everybody ramped back up.
You've got one pod in Toronto, one pot in uh
in Edmonton, so that they've gone with the bubble uh
plan there for the National Hockey League. And I would

(02:24:13):
say this, I know there's been some thought about Chicago
and Edmonton and really highly watched qualifying round series. I
think Edmonton wins that series and they're dangerous going forward.
I think you've got McDavid and dry A Citle on
that same team and and splitting them up there with
Dave Tippett has done that different lines. I think that

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that's a dynamic group. I think they've got enough goaltending here. Uh,
they got Cleft Bomb is a really good defenseman. I
like Edmonton to go on a deep run there in
the Western Conference. JP kind of dumb question relating to
hockey for those of us who haven't followed a day
to day we all obviously saw the news with the
Blue Jays yesterday not allowed to go into Canada, not
allowed to play in Canada. Is that essentially why the

(02:24:54):
NHL chose the bubble cities the host cities to be
both in Canada as opposed to Las Vegas or a
We're in the United States, strictly because of the numbers
and the perceived safety issue of doing it all in Canada. Well, correct, Yes, Aaron,
I think that first and foremost, as you point out
that the infection rates right now are substantially better in
Canada than they are here in the US, and so

(02:25:16):
just as a site period, it makes more sense to
to base your league there because of the overall health
considerations and to your point, Uh, it made sense to
probably put the entire operation of the league on one
side of the US Canada border because of the complexity
right now that still exists in terms of crossing. So
you're absolutely right. I think that the NHL looked at

(02:25:36):
and said we should all be in one country right
now for ease of public safety and transportation, and objectively speaking,
looking at the two options, it's safer to do it
in Canada right now. In fact, Edmonton, the province of
Alberta broadly speaking, and I think Edmonton specifically, they've had
very low numbers of COVID nineteen cases throughout the last
several months, So I think that was a very appealing

(02:25:59):
option for Nada. And now the operation is entirely north
of the border for the balance of this postseason. Speaking
of Canada, we're not going to see any Major League
baseball in Canada now that the Canadians have shut the
door on the Blue Jays playing any home games in Toronto,
not totally unexpected. Is it a done deal? Are they
going to play at their trouble A affiliate in Buffalo?

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What what are the plans for the Blue Jays here? Well, Steve,
it's not entirely clear yet. Buffalo is one of the
best options. It is a a fiable Triple A stadium.
It is not state of the art. It's about thirty
years old the ballpark there and would need some rapid updating.
Now the Blue Jays first home game is set for

(02:26:41):
a week from Thursday, so that they do have a
little bit of runway, but not much. They probably have
to make a decision here in the next forty eight hours. Uh.
The Needin has been mentioned, of course, that's where they
have their spring training. It's in Florida though, and and
in addition to the COVID nineteen numbers in Florida, you're
dealing with weather in a non domed venue if you're

(02:27:01):
going to play at your spring training facility there in
duned and so a couple complicated issues there if if
you wanted to try to play in Florida. So I
would say that the likeliest option, but it's probably not
yet more than fifty would be Buffalo, because you have
to realize there may also be some other destinations that

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are Triple A stadiums that are more recently built than Buffalo,
that are also in the eastern part of the country.
That are not being used as a secondary training sites
that the Jays must now rapidly evaluate for the possibility
of of basing their operations there. So I would say
Buffalo is a strong possibility, but by no means a
final decision. That Jays are working through numerous different options

(02:27:44):
right now in deciding their home for the balance of
so JP. Yesterday, I think was the first time most
of us got to see what is basically the new
Norman Baseball outside of some clips and stuff that have
popped up on social media. Uh, what is the player
reaction to some guys wearing masks all the time? We
saw with Clint Frasier, the fact that there's no fans,

(02:28:05):
the fact that there's cardboard cutouts. How have the players
responded to what is this now new norm for the
rest of the season. Well, I think overwhelmingly positive. Aaron.
I mean, first of all, I'll start with the numbers,
and I think that the most recent testing data that
came out from Major League Baseball was that with with
all that the Tier one people being tested, meaning the

(02:28:26):
players and coaches and really close staff medical personnel, those
that are around the players all the time, that the
positive rate for COVID nineteen among that group in the
last week was point two per cent. So that tells
me that they're taking this very seriously. They're wearing masks,
they're following the protocols. Yes, there are still players who
are on UH COVID nineteen related injury lists, but largely

(02:28:48):
those in most cases that those infections occurred before they
reported the camp, which just again says the players are
regarding this with the seriousness that's required of the moment.
But you take that seriousness and then you're you're you're
serious about your health protocols. But then when you're with
your teammates, you you're trying to be as fun, loving

(02:29:09):
and positive as you can be. And I really think
we're seeing that. We saw the Indians yesterday, the Cleveland
Indians UH tapping their their cleats in celebration as opposed
to elbows or or high fives. That's that's a very
cool adaptation that we're seeing. And we're seeing players sitting
in the in the in the crowd obviously because they
can use those stands now. M I I personally, I've

(02:29:32):
been involved in a lot of zoom conversations with different
teams around the league. Just trying to get the temperature
of things, which frankly for me, um it's it's really
interesting to be able to pop in. Just today I had.
I was in zooms for the Tigers and the White
Sox and the Reds, just to get the flavor of
what they're all doing and how things are going there.
And then the players that everybody that I spoke with
and heard speak they were very matter of fact and

(02:29:53):
positive and upbeat about the chemistry they've gotten there in
their clubhouses. So I think it's a really I've just
been totally impressed by the players, their perspective, the way
they've represented the game I think has been extraordinary, And
I think the people involved in baseball, whether you're a
fan or a broadcaster or a member of a team,
you can be very proud of the way that the
people here are representing the sport. JP. You and I

(02:30:15):
are records guys, and because of the shortened season like
these consecutive years, streaks are very much obviously in jeopardy.
I'll give you an example. So Max Scherzer has had
two or more strikeouts eight straight years. That's one short
of the major league record of Tom Seaver of nine
years in a row. Now that's not exactly like you know,

(02:30:37):
Bonds holding an all time record. But as Major League
Baseball addressed, how this season that it is affects records
like that. Are they just extinguished immediately or how are
they going to handle that as far as the record
books are concerned. Well, that's a great question, Steve, and
I don't think we're gonna see any edict from the

(02:30:57):
Commissioner's office, nor have we seen one to the point
in time about how those sorts of records should be regarded.
I think we did see certainly, you go back to
a lot of those types of of records were in
jeopardy because of the notion of the fact that both
those seasons were short, and obviously ninety four on the

(02:31:17):
back end and ninety five at the very beginning. So
I think that we it's now up to us, It's
up to those who talk about the game, those who
are involved in the sport to refer to what's happened
in the proper context and say, alright, Max had eight
in a row or seven or row. There was the
one interruption, and then hopefully one is a normal length
of season, and we move forward from there. But I

(02:31:40):
think that's its gonna be one of the unique features
of the of the record book, and maybe move it
means that we now move more towards the rate stats
if if you will, the E r A and ops
and those sorts of things, but or strikeouts per inning,
strikeouts for nine innings, for example. But you're right, it's
it's a really um or. I guess you could say,
strikeout us for nine innings among pitchers qualifying for the

(02:32:03):
r A title in that given year. That would be
one way to talk around it. But we could we
could do that on our own. So I think it's
probably gonna be up to us. Now. On the flip side,
I would say this quickly that we could see some
playoff droughts ending before they normally what app So in
the opposite direction, what if the Padres get off to
a great start. There are thirteen years in a row
without making the playoffs, the White Sox eleven straight years,

(02:32:25):
and I'll give you a little hint. I've got them
making the playoffs this year in my prediction. So I
think we're gonna see some variants there that while obviously
it's for a very sad and unfortunate in many cases
tragic reason. Um, it's just now up to us to
put everything in the proper historical context. JP. Actually, let
me write to my last question here. I remember talking
to you early on in this process when we kind

(02:32:46):
of understood it was going to be a shortened season,
and you said you like teams like the like Tampa
Bay that have a little bit of a deeper pitching staff,
they have a deep bullpen. Do you still feel in
general the same types of teams are gonna have of
success in this truncated season. Any new thoughts on that
element of it all. Yeah, Aaron as a great point
about just how this is such a unique year to

(02:33:08):
try to project, and I'll say this, I'll add on
my earlier thinking and make this point young teams are dangerous,
and young teams especially that have not really made their mark.
And I was actually hearing Kirk Casali make this point
with the Cincinnati Reds earlier today, saying that he's on
a team that's very young, with some some really impressive

(02:33:30):
talented players who have done a lot in the game,
like Joannio Suarez, for example, but who have not had
playoffs success, and many of them not even having gone
to the playoffs before. So I think the real sweet
spot is a team that's got some some players with
with some stature and time in the game, but those
who have not yet had the playoffs success. It's gonna

(02:33:52):
keep them hungry, it's gonna keep them focused. And a
team like the Reds with that, with that rotation, I'm
telling you guys, I've got the Reds going to the
play offs and that's gonna be a dangerous team to
deal with, I believe. In October, I'm gonna say that
right now. I gotten Cincin who reads winning their division,
and I think they are going to give the Dodgers
a scare if they meet in the playoffs. All right,
so JP next week there will be games going on

(02:34:16):
while we speak. Is this gonna be a major distraction
for you or how's that gonna work? I'm gonna love it,
and I'll tell you what I My plan is to
get to a game on on Friday, you know, being
here in the Midwest. Uh as much as my networks
will uh send me out, I'm up for the task
and up for the challenge of of getting around these
ballparks in the Midwest. So I may either be maybe

(02:34:36):
I'll be driving from a game. Maybe I'll be driving
to a game. You never know where in the Midwest
I will be when we next week, So I just
feel free to give you a call. I'll pull off
the road if I'm driving, and we'll have a good,
good conversation. But it's very much automobile baseball for me
this year, as opposed to flying. We cannot wait. J p.
Thanks so much. We appreciate it. Look forward to it.
Opening Day my friends this Thursday. It's gonna be a

(02:34:58):
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Sam still cannot understand why the Iowa Iowa State game
will not be played. He cannot figure this out. Well,
I know, but what is that called by it? The
Governor's Cup? What do we call that cy Hawk series?
Psy Hawk? Yeah, Seris missed on that one, my bad,
so and I've I've been here in studio with that

(02:36:01):
game going on with Iowa Sam. The intensity it is
was last year, thirteen to nine or something. I remember
I had the so the game started at like noon
or eleven and there was like a four hour rain delay. Yeah,
it was unbelievable. They came back in one, not that
you'll remember, and that would be the first time they
haven't played since like the seventies. Yeah, all right, there

(02:36:23):
you go back in the George emmonson days and he
was the quarterback there. Yeah, okay, I know all this
stuff about Iowa State. Don't don't get me going on cyclones.
So you probably know more than me. Uh David Gascon
of course, there he is a man, beard is looking.
I wish I could grow a beer. I really did.
It's a pretty good beard. That's a good beer. I
I not in a million years. I clipped it at

(02:36:45):
one point in the beginning of July. So had I
not done that? Yeah, things be a little different. But
whatever you are, you're like twice our age and you
look half a well it doesn't matter. But the bottom
line is I wish I could grow some kind of
a beard. You can't through your a TV guy. Yeah,
well you're right on our station you can. We have
a guy, one of our guys that he can really

(02:37:05):
grow a super good looking beer. Good looking guy, good
beer and everything else. He actually came back from vacation
perfectly groomed and everything like. It looked great, and the
boss said off, George Steinbrenner, Yeah, next day off, alright,
shave those sideburns. Hartman, Uh, Gavin, are you getting ready

(02:37:28):
to start laying down some serious money on Major League Baseball?
On Thursday, I was looking at Monday the spring training
summer camp schedule. Oh man, man, I'm excited. This is
gonna be so. I mean, when we look ahead, Aaron,
where we're gonna be a week for now, we'll have
Major League Baseball games, We'll have gotten in some exhibition games.

(02:37:48):
So the NBA, what are you looking forward to as
far as uh? I mean, by the way you heard
of the exhibition because not every team is at full
strength yet people don't understand there's still a lot of
players missing from the NBA Bubowl, but they're gonna reduce
the games from twelve minutes to ten minutes. And Chris Paul,
the president of the players Union, was asked what about that,

(02:38:08):
He goes, it's news to me. They never told me
they were going to do that. So I gotta get
everybody on the same page, right, It's gotta get everybody
up to speed. I'm excited for sures or Cole on Thursday.
I'll tell you this, and I truly mean this is
I have been. I've never been a soccer guy. I
find myself with the MLS on first of all, super

(02:38:29):
early in the morning, working out from home, doing the
home workout. Got a little uh d C United, I
don't even know who played. And then at night they're
playing a seven thirty Pacific time kickoff, so I'm digging
the MLS. I'm gonna watch some baseball, and then I'm
really fired up for the NBA. Okay, outside of narrating
some highlights from L A f C and Galaxy, which

(02:38:52):
was a blowout yesterday, I uh MLS to me is
almost cornhole time for me. It's about the same. I
just I just have it on is back, and I'm
sorry I cannot watch it. I really I don't know how.
I don't know if you're going into the studio every
day in San Diego, but I'm stuck in the house,
and so it's almost like regular season baseball in a
normal summer. I just have it on in the background

(02:39:13):
while I'm cooking dinner, while I'm doing that kind of stuff.
All right, well, my this is my way of saying
it can't come back soon enough. MLB, n B, A, NFL,
even the NHL. We need you, Aaron, thanks so much.
Keep it right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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