FOX Sports Saturday with Andy Furman and Bucky Brooks: 09/05/2020

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio. It's time for the
Grim Reaper. We'll get to that in just about a minute.
He's Bucky Brooks. I'm a defirmative for Jonas Knocks and
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(00:22):
for five years. It's a pleasure to introduce him. Happy
to have him as my partner today. Love being with him,
the one they only Bucky Brooks. Hello, Buck, what is
going on? How you doing? Ver? Well? I tell you
I'm no Jonas Knocks, but I'll do my very best.
I'll tell you that I'm sure you're gonna be great.
I'm trying. How you feeling? Everything good? Healthy? Everybody good? Yeah,
everything is good. No complaints. Man, It's a great Saturday.

(00:44):
We got football on. Um. It's exciting, exciting time right now.
It's crazy. You know you you name the sport we
haven't going on now? National Hockey League playoffs, Major League
Baseball MLS, NBA playoffs, NFL coming up next Thursday, and
the Kentucky Derby. Of all things, it's September. It's everything.
It's a it's a cornucopy of sports book. That's what
it basically is. It's unbelievable. Yeah, it is unbelievable. Man.

(01:07):
We have to be excited about, um just having the games,
because I really wondered if we were going to get
to the point where we're going to have football and
sports and sports return during the fall. But it appears
that things are going well. The testing and stuff appears
to be working some of the bubble stuff and quarantining
with these sports, and so I'm excited. And when it

(01:27):
comes to the National Football League next week, man, man,
I'm excited. I can't wait. I tell I'll believe you, brother,
because I'm so happy to be with you because it's
not often that I have the chance to kind of
touch what's between your ears and ask questions that I
really don't know about because the amount of football I
know I could put in the thimble and the attend
quarts of order. Really that's really it's true. But I

(01:48):
but I wanna. I'm gonna ask you many things today
because I want to be and I want to be
educated and you have a guy who could educate me.
Number one, we talked about football coming down. I want
to ask you right now, because I mentioned about the
Grim Reaper, what is it like you played on five
teams in five years? What is it like on cutdown Day,
which today at four o'clock Eastern wasn't a fact cutdown
day in the National Football League? What do the players

(02:08):
go through? And obviously this year, I don't think it's
really fair because there were no preseason games for coaches
to even judge some of these players. Yeah. No, it's
a it's a tough deal. Um, enormous situations. You on
pins and needles when cut down day comes. Uh, the
entire weekend, you're worried. You're looking at your phone. Uh
you wonder if you can get called to the office
to talk to the coach and bring your playbook. Uh,
you just don't know. You feel like you know you've

(02:30):
done your best, you put your best foot forward. Um,
but you never know. This year, um man, my heart
goes out to to everybody that was trying to be
evaluated in these circumstances without preseason games where you can
really show what you can do because no matter what
UM coaches and people are saying right now, preseason games
are a lot different than the scrimmages and the team periods.

(02:51):
And there are some guys who when the lights come on,
they take they're able to take their game up a
notch in a competitive environment. And there are other guys
who are able to kind of skip and skate and
do everything that you want to see during practice, but
they're not necessarily built to play the game. And unfortunately
you can see a bunch of those guys that are
gamers UM they're going to be tapped and and and

(03:11):
tell that look, it's over for them at this point.
They have to sit by the phone and wait. And
so it's a really really difficult and challenging set of
circumstances that these guys face. But I do hope because
of the expanded practice squad warsters UM, the way UM
teams are looking to kind of stockpile their talent with
the young guys and developmental guys, that some of these

(03:32):
guys still continue to get shots to continue to fulfill
and live to live out their dreams. You know, but
I never played the game. The closest I can't was
a high school basketball manager, and I cut oranges at halftime.
So I I never played, So it's gonna be very difficult.
It's funny for me to say something, but I hope
you'll agree with me. But nothing replaces live action. That's
my take on that. Nothing can replace. They could have
the zoom conferences, they could have zoom drills, but nothing

(03:55):
replaces life snaps on the field. No, nothing. Nothing is
like the game, like it operates at a different pace,
uh different energy. You get to see the pressure and
how people respond to the pressure. Uh so yeah, so
even though you try and stimulate these things in practice,
it's nothing like the game. And so what you try
to do if you're in evalua to you try and
kind of stick closely to what you thought these players

(04:15):
were going to be when you drafted them when they
were coming out of college. But we really won't know
about any of these players and any of these teams
until they kick off next weekend. You're exactly right now.
A couple of things I need to know. But I
want to clear things up right now because obviously you
played the game. You were there. You in the NFL,
the highest, the highest wrong, if you will, of professional football.
And now with the pandemic going on, I gotta ask

(04:37):
would you play? Would you play? And more than that,
if you had a teammate that opted out, how would
you handle that? So the two things I gotta get
from you right now, Um, I think I would try
and play, And it would be difficult for me because
with my my parents. My parents are aging in those things,
so I know that they wouldn't probably be able to
come to games. I wouldn't be able to necessarily interact
with them like I would in normal situa reason the circumstances.

(05:01):
But I probably would play based on my own um
health situation. I don't have anything in terms of conditions
that would be deemed to be like high risk, So
I would participate. But if I had a teammate they
didn't want to participate because of whatever medical situations he
had to deal with, Look man, that's on him. That
is the one thing about the pandemic. You just never

(05:22):
know what people are dealing with, what's in their DNA
and those things. So I would be able to respect
those decisions. But I would make a decision that's based
on what's best for me and what's best for my
immediate family and I would be able to participate. You know,
I look at the New England pages that like seven
guys opting out, and you gotta believe that you're going
towards a team. They took up a team unity, going
as a unit. And look, I gotta believe there are

(05:43):
some players in that locker roo. I'm gonna say these
guys or cowards. They didn't want to play, and I
could really ruin the chemistry of the team. Yeah, but
I don't think is that. I think. I think NFL
players are really in tune and in touch, and I
think UM just looking at the composition of UM, the
people that have been most affected, I think everyone can
look down their their family, their extended family, their friends

(06:05):
and see where someone has been impacted by the virus.
So I think guys would be a little more considerate
when it comes to understanding why guys opted out, because look,
and here's the thing, Like those guys that are opting out,
they're taking significant losses of income, you know, like the
advance that they get up to one fifty dollars their

(06:25):
pills in comparison to what they would have made if
they played UM with the minimum salaries. Some reaching the
million dollar mark based on the number of years of
service that you have in the league. No one is
just opting out to take the cash and run. They're
opting out because they have serious medical situations that they
want to really prevent others from being affected by. Well said, now, look,

(06:46):
I know it's a tough day, but this one really
cut me in the gun. And it hurt me because
you know, to me, I couldn't pick out half these
guys in the lineup. I don't know these guys are
getting cut today. And look there are the six, seven,
eighth around draft picks, so I don't know who they are.
They're lucky to be in camp. But today the Seattle
Seahawks waved their linebacker Shakin Griffin, and to me, and
I don't know Shaquine, believe me, but I've seen him

(07:06):
on hard knocks. He's the guy had his left hand amputated.
He's a linebacker. He was empty. I think it was
a four years of age. He had that syndrome situation,
the congenital situation and condition and it was a wonderful story,
wonderful story last year, and for me, it hurt me.
And maybe because it's the story angle more than the
fact that he could bring to the team. But still
in all I think it's it was a low blow.

(07:27):
I didn't like reading that Jackeen Griffin was waived today
by Seattle. Look, I mean, it's a tough situation and
it was a great story. Uh. The way that he
has been able to overcome his disability to be a
player in the National Football League has been terrific. But
at the same time, it's business and you have to
do your best to put the roster with the best

(07:49):
fifty three to fifty five guys that you can put
on the field. And I think with Pete Carroll and
the Seattle see Yawks, they're trying to evaluate the team
to trying to look at where they are and what
is the best what's the best lineup that they can
put out there. And unfortunate for Shikim right now, he
is not a guy that they deemed to be ready
to give them immediate contributions. But look, understand, it's an

(08:12):
expanded practice squad. They can keep sixteen guys. They can
keep six of those guys with unlimited experience. Maybe, just
maybe the Sattle Seahawks bring him back as a privtice
squad member and give him an opportunity to work his
way back onto the act of roster. You know, I
don't want to sound like I'm heartless, but when the
Miami Dolphins released that, what about Josh Rosen? You know,
instead of maybe working out the train, I didn't even
I didn't shed a tear. Really, he had a shot.

(08:32):
He had a shot in Arizona. He had a shot there.
And the fact that they drafted toa and they got
Ryan magic Man Fitzpatrick. I mean, there's no there's no
rule for this guy. So I I you get a shot,
You get that one shot, and maybe someone might pick
him up perhaps, but you know what, you have a chance.
You blew it. Now, I wouldn't go so far like
like here, Here's what I'll say. Typically, if you're the

(08:53):
tenth overall pick um, you get a couple of bites
at the apple. It's unfortunate for Josh Rosen that um.
The year after um he gets the Arizona they get
a new coach, Cliff Kingsbury, who man had a man
crushed on on Kyla Murray and look, Cala Murray. Isn't
is an upgrade in terms of just overall talent and athleticism.
Then Josh Rosen, he then gets traded to Miami. Miami

(09:16):
has an awful season, Josh Rosen gets an opportunity to play,
doesn't do great. But then they go and pick two
a tongue of aaloa with the fifth overall pick. So
you already know what is up coming down the pipe.
And so for Josh Rosen, I think it's it's unfortunate
that he was a high draft pick, but he never
had an opportunity to have someone that fully bought into

(09:37):
him and to say that a year a guy, We're
going to build this around you and what you're able
to do. And so look, he kind of falls through,
but now he is relegated to backup status, and unless
something kind of miraculous happens on the field where he's
able to not only get on the field but play
at a high level, this is kind of where he
will langersh for the rest of his NFL career. And

(09:58):
for one of them here atually a buck. The fact
that sometimes talent is overshadowed by if someone likes you that, look,
you were on five teams in five years. Someone must
like you. Some someone has to have someone needs to
be invested in your success, and at the quarterback position
in particular, Uh, the head coach, the general manager, someone

(10:21):
has to view you as a franchise player. And if
they don't view you as a franchise player, or once
you get off that original team and you're now working
with um those who don't necessarily have the same investment
in you. They didn't spend the draft capital, they didn't
pay you the big signing bonus. Now you just kind
of at an even Stephen situation with everybody else that's

(10:43):
in the quarterback room. And for Josh Rosen, he couldn't
do anything to separate himself, particularly against a quarterback room
that has a quarterback that has played for that offensive
coordinated for a long time in Ryan Fitzpatrick and the
fifth overall pick in this year's drafting too A talking
about Lawa, the odds were stacked against him. Well, you know,
speak in the quarterbacks to Houston, Texas to they agreed
for a four year deal a hundred and sixty mill

(11:04):
with their quarterback to Shawn Watson. And if I'm Dak Prescott,
I'm looking my chops today. I'm looking at my chops
because the longer jury Jones waits, the more money's gonna
end up paying him. Yeah, I mean this, this is
unfortunate for the Cowboys. The Cowboys should have went on
and wrote the chat two years ago. They haven't, and
so the price tag just keeps going up. So Deshaun
Watson signed an extension. They puts him at what forty million?

(11:27):
Forty million per Yeah, I mean you're we already we
already know what Dad Doc is saying. That's that's where
we started negotiation. And so um, Cowboy fans, um, even
Cowboy fans who were number four haters, they better get
used to the notion that they're going to have to
spend significant money to keep Dak Prescott in the fall.

(11:48):
So now you've got Patrick Mahomes like about forty five mill,
DeShawn Watson about forty didn't you go, Russell Wilson about
thirty five? Ben Roethlisberger, But you know he's down the road.
I mean this may be his last season. I think
he's got about thirty four mil Jared Goffer than Aaron Rodgers.
So you know, the quarterback thing just goes up up up. However,
with the season of today, uh finances maybe at a

(12:11):
at a premium because you know they're they're hurting that.
That's some teams. I'm not gonna say they're losing money.
They're not gonna make as much as they projected. No,
they're not gonna make as much money as projected, and
it is going to impact the bottom line and some
of the decisions that are made. You know, when you
don't have um, the extra cash and the salary cap
will come down and it may not project to be

(12:32):
as high as you thought it would be next year. Yeah,
I mean you forced you to make some different decisions.
But what I'm learning in this league you pay who
you really want, and teams are finding a way to too.
I mean there are people are finding a lot of
coins and those couch cushions to pay some of these
big time guys. We've seen Pat Mahomes get paid. We've
seen Deshan Watson get paid. Keenan allen'sign an extension today.

(12:53):
So if you want to pay somebody that you believe
is a blue chip player for your squad, you can
come up with the money to make and keep on paying.
Ryan Fitzpatrick, what is hety nine? I mean I'd like
to see his bank row. I mean this guy, he
just he's like a bad penny. He keeps on showing up. Really,
it's a man. I love the guy, want the harved
It's a it's a great situation. And I remember playing
for the CINCINNANETI Bengals. The guy bounces around and he

(13:15):
always ends up. It's amazing. Really, he may have the
best career in the history of the National Football League.
He has certainly given himself opportunities. Um, he has played.
He's played his way into a very very nice career,
and he's asked some shining moments. And so that is
the thing about Fitzpatrick. He has played well enough at
times to kind of justify or warrant why he's still
viewed as like a friend start in some places. But

(13:38):
do me have shaved the beard? I mean really, I
mean you could tell what he had for his last meal. No,
it's just discussed. I mean, just gotta be like you know,
I remember the SCNTI Reds with the late March shot.
She would't let the guys on the SITCNTI Reds have
a beard, no facial hair, get rid of it. I
mean it just doesn't look good. I I don't like it.
I mean maybe it's just me. I don't mind when
the hair sticks out on the bottom of the helmet

(13:58):
and the back that A don't care. Although I wouldn't
do it if I was a receiver, because someone could
tack me by my ponytail. Have you ever done that?
I mean, seriously, I've never I've never grown I've never
growing it out. I never would want to, uh subject
myself to the pool because guys, guys get it done.
They do it. Though that's bad, that's that's worse than
the horseshoe tackle. But again, I get get rid of

(14:21):
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(15:23):
just touch on the NBA right now, and I'll tell
you what makes the NBA players so beautiful. We didn't
know a year ago what team was going to win,
you know, the last several years. We knew about in
August that the following June that the Golden State Warriors
were gonna win it. Now it's wide open, and I
love it. And I love that the small ball Houston
Rockets are given the Lakers are on for the money.

(15:43):
Well they beat them, I don't know, they're gonna push
him pretty hard, though. I mean, you got a guy.
I mean, give me a guy like like p J.
Tucker any day of the week. I mean, he's amazing.
I Mean, these guys are big in the six five
six six plane center and they're they're beating them on
the boards. It's great. It was a fantastic game to watch,
and I think the Lakers got called sleepwalking. They got

(16:04):
caught playing against the team is very motivated in the
Houston Rockets, a team that kind of, you know, got
to reprieve winning the seventh game against Okay See having
an opportunity to play um short run. In terms of
preparation for the Lakers, they just kind of did their thing. Um.
I think the biggest thing that I would probably be
concerned about if I am a Lakers fan, man a

(16:25):
D has p J talk aroun him significant size advantage,
should be able to take him in the block and
just wear him out. And a D just didn't do it.
And so for the Lakers to win, a D has
to be a dominant player. And I'm not talking about
dominant like a eight or whatever. He has to be
in and in the thirties and he has to make

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them feel him on the boards, ten plus rebounds, a
number of offensive putbacks, things that make the Houston Rockets
get out of playing small ball and adjust to how
the Lakers want to play. But if he is not
going to be a significant or dominant factor, the Houston
Rockets at the Lakers exactly where they want. And the
funny thing is that, you know, the Rockets are playing

(17:08):
tremendous Steve, and I think they forced like something twenty
seven turnovers. You say sloppy basketball. And when I'm hearing
right now that the Lakers are playing only for the
second time in eleven days, So tell me it's not
an excuse. That should be a positive. You arrested. I mean,
look what the Houston Rockets came off forty eight hours
prior to that. They were sweating bullets against the Youthah Jazz.
They're the team that should be the ones that were shaken,

(17:29):
but they were ready to play. And that's a credit
to the coach too. Yeah, there's a credit to the coach.
But there's also something about rhythm. Um. When you've been
off for as long as the Lakers have been off,
like sometimes you can be a little rusty trying to
get up to speed, not necessarily in terms of game RUSS,
but intensity not matching the intensity that the Rockets have played.
Because remember the last game, that's seventh game against Okay. See,

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they had to play to win it out, so they
played a fever pitch. They had to hustle. Every loose
ball mattered, So they were playing basically playoff basketball, where
the Lakers cruise when they just passed up Portland's um.
They've been kind of sitting around and watching and sometimes
it takes you a while to readjust to the intensity
and the tempo in the pace of playoff basketball. I

(18:12):
think we'll see a much better performance from the Lakers
in Game two. But in saying that, it still doesn't
guarantee that the Rockets are going to concede ground. Because
the Rockets beat them during a regular season to head
the age and then they're coming off a big win. Uh,
this is gonna be a tougher for him, and Lebron
has gonna get used to their speed. I mean, come on,
you can watch tape you play during the regular season,
but you know what, I know how great Lebron is.

(18:34):
I mean, in the all time circles of Basketball Top
five maybe the best ever. I love Lebron, I love
watching him play, I love his style. But if I
had a chance to be a teammate of two guys
watching these playoffs right now, p J. Tuckers won. That
guy gives you everything and more. And Jimmy Butler, this
guy is like, I mean, look as an athlete and
you're the athlete. You played the game in the NFL.

(18:54):
You love going to war with Jimmy Butler just what
he does on a daily basis. And to me, I
can't believe that the Philadelphia seventies six is dumped him.
That to me is insane. It is insane. But you
know what, it just speaks to the culture that they
had in Philadelphia. Jimmy Butler is a perfect fit in Miami.
In Miami, it's about being hard working, it's about being tough,

(19:15):
it's about being competitive. It's about diving into the conditioning
and the preparation. Jimmy Butler has done all of those things.
When I look at Jimmy Butler, he embodies how pat
Riley built the Miami Heat. And I'm gonna say I'm
an unabashed Miami Heat fan based on how they just
go to work a bunch of blue collar guys just
kind of getting it done. What they have done to

(19:36):
the Milwaukee Bucks has been eye opening. The Milwaukee Bucks,
who had the best record, they have an e v
P player with the reigning m v P and Janice,
and they have not been able to hold their own
against the Miami Heats. It's embarrassing. It really is, like
for six for three, First of what the hell are
you doing? Take a freeze post up, played a low

(19:57):
post like the pivot you're supposed to play. That's number one.
It too. When I watched this Milwaukee Bucks team, heat
reminds me of when Lebron played for the Cleveland Cleveland
Cavaliers and they had guys like more Williams. They had
Lebron then people that they were garbage. That's what it was.
He may'd be dead. Look Middleton, he's not a guy
that's gonna help you out. Come on. They got they
got no one, It's be honest, and that's it. And

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he didn't really do much at all. Maybe he was hurt.
I know we had that ankles thing, but come on, really,
now they haven't they haven't played up to snuff. Like
this is a team that was very balanced at the
team that rode through the regular season, the team that
was one of the best defensive and offensive teams in
the NBA. And man, the Miami Heat has been able
to have their way. And what was telling um in

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the fourth quarter when the game like it seemed that
Milwaukee had control of the game going into the fourth,
the Miami Heat not only took control, but man, they
stretched a margin out to finish with a fifteen point
when the way the game was nip and tuck and
they were behind. Man, Miami has so much confidence hitting
into Game four. I don't know how Milwaukee. I don't

(20:59):
know how Milwaukee survives and and and fighte to see
a Game five. They were outscored forty to thirteen in
the final quarter. Jimmy Butler scored twenty eight points in
the game seventeen and the fourth quarter. Let me tell
us something. I'm gonna tell you something right now, Buck, You,
me and three guys in a telephone book can score
one of thirteen points. Really, I'm telling you, it's thirteen
points in the NBA? Are you kidding me? It's an embarrassment.

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But you know, give credit to Houston and their defense. Really,
I mean Heat give them credit. I mean what they
did to him. You know, the one thing that stands
out to me when I look at the Miami Heat
how hard they play. They close out on all jump shots,
They're always finishing. They make you shoot over raised arms. Uh,
the the extra effort plays. Uh, the loose balls they
get on the floor for those they box out. They

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do a great job on the defensive board. And then
on offense, they're doing a great job of passing the
ball around the perimeter. They're not settling for these rush shots.
They're taking the open shots. And even when they're down,
the ability to make three point plays consistent, consistently keeps
them in the mix. Okay, now I'm gonna go over
and ask you, like your predictions here right now? The

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Lakers Houston. I mean, the Lakers did lose their first
game against Portland in the last series, and they came
on and they rolled him. I don't think it's gonna
happen in this series. And personally, I like to see
I love Lebron. I love Lebron. Believe me, he's gonna
get a lot of heatd to get knocked out, but
I'd love to see Houston win that series. Number One
Milwaukee Miami. I'm a big, honest fan, but I like
Oscar Robertson better because he's in my next door neighbor

(22:25):
in Cincinnati, and I love the Big Oh And. I
didn't want to see anybody beat uh. And I didn't
want to see Milwaukee win since the Big Oh and
and Luell Cinda kareem one. So I want to see
Milwaukee get busted and they will. They're not gonna win.
They're out of it right there. Denver is not gonna
win a game in that series against the Clippers. They're
the best team in the entire playoffs. And I believe
that the Boston Toronto series that's gonna be tough. Boston

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lost heartbreaker with point five tents of a second the
other night, but I still think Boston goes on and
wins this. And I think, uh, the winner of that
series may represent the East. That's in my opinion, the
Boston Toronto winner may represent the East. You know, look,
I can't just be with you on the Miami situation
because I think Miami has this one in the bag.
The Boston Toronto series is one that the Boston Celtics

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mental toughness will be tested because this is a game
where they had already penciled in with three and O,
uh it's a rap. Did you the Toronto Raptors getting
new life? So now that energy that you're gonna have
to deal with when you face them is going to
be something else. Uh. In terms of thinking which team
comes out of the East, I'm still saying Miami. I
just think the way Miami is playing, how hard they play,

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and the way that Jimmy Butler has been able to
take his game up and knots. I think there's I
think they're a tough matchup for either team, either the
Celtics or the Raptors. The Rockets. I think the Rockets
are going to make this a very competitive series. I
still think at the end Man Lebron James A. D
I think they find a way to get it done
and may take six games though, um for them to

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there where's our buddy jonas at today? Is he in
Hawaiis he like? Is he getting married again? Oh? Boy,
I wouldn't doubt it anyways, guys, uh college football? See today.
A couple of games that were playing. One of them
was a blowout. Actually both of them were waiting for
the snap and fires upside intercepted coming near side of

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the thirty and then nearly tripped up, stays on his
feet headed to the end zone. Is John Rattigan an
interception returned for a touchdown. The Army defense puts a
touchdown in its scoring column, and it's now thirty four
to nothing. Black Knight's got it done. They had sixty
rushes in this ball game for three d and twenty

(24:55):
eight yards and threw all four. They could have been
a change that name Black Knight. All right, I'm just
letting you know. All right, they didn't get the Army
yet because they're not high on the radar. Get to him.
Come on for nothing, Middle Tennessee is getting drubbed right now.
There's under two minutes to play in regulation. The other
game Marshal fifty nine nothing over Eastern Kentucky. Uh NBA

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got a couple of games today, Ratros Celtics at six
thirty Eastern, followed by Denver and the l A Clippers
at nine o'clock eastern. NFL news to Shann Watson gets
his extension from Houston a hundred and sixty million dollars.
Keenan Allen gets one from the l A Chargers four
years and over eighty million dollars heading his way, guys.
Major League Baseball Washington National has have signed general madder

(25:37):
Mike Rizzo to a three year contract extension. Yankees activated
Labor Torres from the ten day injured list and Twins
plays catcher Alexa Villa on the ten day injury lists
with a lower a little bit lower back tightness. One
game that's going on right now in Major League Baseball
as it stands Oakland on FS one lee and the
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to you, guys, Thank you so much. Seeing an our
guests man. Okay, he's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy firminhaim In
for Jonas. We got some breaking news from our guy
Iowa Sam who knows to where it does want? Jonas knocks. Yeah.
Jonas told me he was like, yeah, I got some
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private matter. So that's what's going on. It's it's private matter. Yeah,

(26:43):
private matter, private matter, military thing. I don't we roll
on right. Thank you so much. We'll see you. What
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The only hard part figuring out which way is easier,
and right now, it's not easy to decide who's gonna
get the ball in the backfield for Tampa Bay because
Leonard Fournette. How surprise, Quark were you that the Buccaneers
have decided to sign Leonard four Nette, what they have
Ronald Jones back there as well. I mean this has
to be a move kind of pushed forward by Tom Brady,

(27:25):
who wants as much offensive power as you can get.
I mean it appears that, um, the Buccaneers are looking
for the big banger, the big down here running back
to kind of fill out their backfield. Ronald Jones is
a guy that does his best work on the edges,
running off to alco, running on the perimeter, those things.
Shandy McCoy is a shell of himself based on what

(27:45):
he wants was as a six time Pro Bowl running back.
But they like him in the pass game. He can
catch passes. They needed someone that could uh do the
dirty work, meaning short yardage, goal line, four minute offense,
those things. But I think the big thing about Leonard
for Nette, and look, there's been a lot of converse.
It's about Leonard for Nette and if he's a bus
he's if he's not a bus as he lived up
to what he was expected to be. I will say this, Um,

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he faced a ton of loaded boxes, meaning eight man
friends versus traditional twenty one personnel UH seven man fronts.
When they have one back in the backfield, they always
dropped the extra defender in the box. With the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers, if Leonard fo Nette is treated with that
same kind of respect the playmakers on the outside, Mike Evans,
Chris Godwin, Rob Gronkowski, O. J. Howard, Cameron Braid, they

(28:29):
will wear out defense. And so I think Bruce arians
wanted one of those chess pieces that would force UM
defensive coordinators to kind of reveal their intentions, and then
the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are going to be able to
exploit it. Now, I will tell you this, I don't
know how good the the acquisition of Leonard for that
makes Tampa Bay, but I will tell you this, with

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no preseason games, you need as many veterans that you
can get. Teams with veterans will have early success. Why
do I say that they know how to tackle, they
know how to play together. They able to play at
this unit, and I think that you're gonna see a
lot of sloppiness, a lot of penalties, a lot of
miss tackles. The first two weeks, maybe three weeks of
this season, a lot of penalty. Look, one other thing,

(29:09):
don't forget this. We're gonna see officials who are gonna
be a little rusty as well. There were no preseason
games for officials, so I think the first two or
three weeks this would be some rust out there, and
the teams with the more veterans on their roster may
have more early season success. No, I did. The teams
that have a veteran roster, teams that haven't had uh
much turnover amongst the coaching staff, they have a significant

(29:32):
advantage because this is very much like the college set
up where um, you kind of show up, you go
to camp, and then you play without scrimmages or games. Um,
it's gonna be one where it's a bit like the
wild wild West. Trying to forecast which teams are going
to be good. The great teams, though, will be very
simple early to give their guys a chance to kind
of master what it is that is being expected of them,

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and then you will see them gradually add pieces to
their offense and defense as a season goes along. But
look for a lot of vanilla looks, a lot of
vanilla um concepts in plays because people can keep it
really really simple for they guy to succeed. Okay, how
tough is it gonna be? Because I live in the
Cincinnati area. How tough is it gonna be for Joe
Burrow with a the pressure on him be getting the

(30:18):
nod as the face of the franchise and the starting quarterback.
Because I don't think that's gonna happen on the coast,
because I think Tyrod Taylor is gonna get the starting
job in l A. So I mean, Herbert could kind
of wait in the wings, But Joe Burrow is gonna
get the ball with no preseason going into the NFL.
How tough is it gonna be for him? You know,
I don't think it'd be uh much tougher than what
he experienced when he was at L s U. Like

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a lot of look, their expectations are what they are
when you the number one overall pick. He steps into
a situation that it's pretty solid. Though when you look
at the sup boarding casts they have around him. They
have pass catchers, um A. J. Green, Tyler, boy, those
guys can make plays. They have a runner in Joe
Mixing who just got paid, but it's also a physical runner,
got it exhales um and making things happen in between toxic,

(31:00):
it also can catch. And So when I'm thinking about
Zach Taylor and what Zach Taylor has talked about doing
and taking what Joe Burrow did successfully at l s
U and marrying it with what they traditionally do with Cincinnati,
I think Joe Burrow is gonna be set up to succeed.
I will tell you this, and my in my mind,
I think there's more pressure on Zach Taylor than on
Joe Burrow. I don't think a lot of people expect

(31:21):
a lot from Joe Burrow, but coming go for two
and fourteen season in his first year, this in fact
is Zach Taylor's team. And people want to see something.
And I'm not saying eight nine, ten wins that's that's
not gonna happen, but they want to see growth. They
want to see improvement. Yeah, they absolutely want to see improvement.
They want to see them continue to make strides. And
that's all you can ask for your young players. You
want to see them continue to trend up and as

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they're trending up, as the team is kind of coming together.
It gives you an opportunity to begin to envision how
good this team can be in a couple of years.
There you go, I'll tell you what another move that
kind of that kind of shocked me in a guest
And why I didn't even call I calling the Washington
football team they released Adrian Peterson. Not a look. When
you have a doubt, when you have any question at
all about anything really in life, go back to the money,

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Go back to the green cabbage, go back to the guilt,
because more often than not, it's about money. Because Peterson
spent two years with the Washington football team, not the Skins,
I'm not gonna use that word. That a Washington football team.
And they led the team. He led the team in rushing.
So how do you let this guy go? Who, in fact,
there is a veteran who could probably help you. So
what happens now? Yeah, he's an older he's an older
running back, despite rushing for over fourteen thousand yards, being

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one of the all time greats at the position, he
started five years old. And what do we think that
we can get from Adrian Peterson? Going forward. I mean
he had eight hundred plus yards a season. Goal he
had a thousand yard season the season before that. Like,
that's fine production, but it's not game changing. And if
you're a rom very, you're trying to install and it's
still a new culture and you need to see where

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we yet at the running back position. How many guys
can play. Do we need to go and get an
upgrade next year in the draft. I think it's all
part of a master plan to really rebuild this franchise.
Um in a hurry, you know what he's about to
rebuild the franchise. What did they do a quarterback? I
mean I was shocked, and we talked about guys opting out.
What about a guy opting in like Alice Smith. I

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saw that thirty to thirty feature on ESPN. This guy
almost lost his leg and now he's coming back to
playing the National Football League. Kudos for him. I think
he needs a psychiatrist. I think I wouldn't want to
do it. One bad hit, he may be out again,
But the fact that he had the courage to go
through what he did and come back, he made the roster.
He's on the He's on the Washington Football Club. I mean,

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I can't believe that. I really can't. Whether we would
have to keep him in some way, shape or form
or fashion. Sixty million dollars he was guaranteed this year,
whether he played or not. Um, the story is a
remarkable story, overcoming multiple uh injuries, overcoming like the stuff
that just went to ride with the leg. UM had
tipped to him for just having the perseverance and perspective

(33:55):
to be able to endure at all, and he's been
able to do that. And I think there's a place
for him on that team because Um, I've had multiple
people tell me, hey man, he's one of the best
when it comes to giving up information when it comes
to young players. Did it with Pat Mahomes, did it
with Um, Colin Kaepernick has already done it with Dwayne Haskins.

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This is what he does. He's the ultimate giver. So
I think it's a great situation for him to be
in that room nurturing Dwayne Haskins as he gets ready
to take over. Well, you know, we we mentioned Adrian
Peterson was six years old. Alex Smith is thirty six.
I mean, look, he and again he may very well
just be a mentor to the young quarterbacks on that team.

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But the fact that it came back, I think it's miraculous.
I really, I really believe it. And uh, I just
can't believe that he's wanting to come back and his
family wants him to come back, although his wife gave
more all that support as that sort of thing on TV.
But wow, I mean that that's a story that uh,
that's a story for the Ages. It really is. It
is a story for the Ages. But here, here's what
I want you to know. And it would be like

(34:57):
if I removed you from the MI and I said, hey,
you have to sit out for two years. Uh, you're
you're unable to step up in the mic and bless
everybody with a fabulous voice of your Like how how
how difficult would it be? You would at least like
to go back and say, like, you know what, I
still got it. I may not be what I once was,
but I still enjoy the moment. And I think for

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Alex Smith, he enjoys being around the fellas. He obviously
loves the game, but I think he still feels like
he can give the game more, not only as a player,
but as a mentor. I think that is why he's back.
We'll tell you what and I love being around you.
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His words have meeting. I'm Andy Fronum for Jonas Knocks
about eleven minutes before the top of the hour, and

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we call this Fox Sports Saturday on Fox Sports. Ready
and Buck a little quarterback talk, because who knows football
better than you? You're the man the brains of the
I love it. And you know, we talked about the
two teams in l A. And since they moved to
Los Angeles back in the seventeen I believe it was
the Charges have always been like the second class citizens
behind the rams. I think we agree on that. Then

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they came, they were like vagabonds, came from San Diegos.
They're always like behind the ram. So now they done
Philip Rivers. Philip Rivers, he did a lot of good
things for those charges. He took over a started thing
at oh five oh six. He was a pro bowler
eight times. I think they'll miss someone of his leadership.
He threw the ball away a lot. He was like
Jamis Winston a little bit laster. He really was. I

(36:46):
know he was. He's thirty eight years old, so I
was shocked that he went to Indianapolis and Indianapolis wanted him.
But he's got some great protection on that line now
in Indianapolis. But they drafted six. They drafted the quarterback.
They drafted Justin Herbert from Oregon. He's big, he's six
five six six. A lot of people compare with to
Cam Newton, with Ben Roethlisberger. But Tyrod Taylor, who has
always been somewhat of a backup, it looks like he's

(37:08):
gonna get the nod this quarterback. Could you explain why,
I mean, you got Justin, you invested in him, you
wanted him. Put him thrown to the wolves. No no, no, no, no, no, no,
not yet, because there's a there's a sense in that
building um for the Charges that if they didn't have
as many turnovers last years they had at the quarterback position,
they felt like they would have went to the playoffs.
They felt like a more conservative approach at quarterback would

(37:31):
give them an opportunity to win. When you look at
Tyrod Taylor, Tyrod Taylor, the one thing that he has
done he has always taken great care of the football.
He only has twenty five interceptions in his career. Philip
Rivers said ways last year, So they just believe they
get a more conservative thing. Also, they don't expect him

(37:52):
to run a lot, but his mobility will enable them
to usher in a new style of offense. Uh. Anthony
Lynn played for Shanahan in the mid nineties when they
went back to back Super Bowls, running that Shanahan run game.
He wants to do that with the Chargers. And the
trick is you have to have a mobile quarterback because

(38:13):
the premises stretched on the front side, bootleg thread on
the back side. Well, now with Tyrod Taylor, you have
a legitimate threat of the quarterback coming out the back
door that holds that defensive end. That should enable Austin
Ekeler in their running backs to get more yardage because
everyone can't chase freely, unostructed to the ball. You answered
the question, okay. Speaking of quarterbacks, Kirk Cousins of the

(38:36):
Minnesota Vikings, he was on a zoom call and he said,
and I quoting, he wasn't much concerned with COVID nineteen
because quote, if I die, I die now I read this.
Has been a lot of feedback on this, a lot
of pushback. It's a matter of public health. And and
Cousins was talking about religious It's not about religion. I mean,
it's great that you're religious, has un to do religious
about public health. Now, his remarks I think could be

(38:58):
okay if they only hurt him, But basically, there are
fifty two other guys on the ball club this coaches,
and the coaches depend on him. His remarks to me
are selfish and more than that, I think they're reckless.
I don't like him. I don't like that he said that. No,
I mean I don't like that he said it. I think, um,
in a way, it does look irresponsible for the quarterback

(39:19):
to come out and and say that. Now he came
back and kind of amended or kind of rework the
statements a little bit, so we really understood. Yeah, but
I mean it's it's not necessarily that, but I also
understand it. But I will say this, Andy, like there
are a lot of people like you have to be,
I would say, a little a little cocked to play football,
like everyone that plays like, um, there's something and us

(39:42):
like we all feel like we're gladiators and that we
want to go out on the shield and all those
other things. And so he may have taken it uh
to the nth degree, but I do understand what he's saying.
Like he really loves for he wants to play it. Um,
he is good at he wants to have an opportunity
to continue to do something that he loves, and so
he is willing to take the risks to pursue a

(40:04):
passion that I mean, that's what I would take from it.
But you didn't feel you didn't feel like a gladiator,
dud your book? I mean I did feel like a gladia,
did you really? I feel like a gladiator each and
every week when I come in here and Sam and
starts playing like it. It kind of transformed. And that's
why some of these guys aren't wearing masks. They think
like I'm in touchable, I'm an athlete, I'm different than
you and I'm I'm I'm stronger, I'm better, I'm bigger,

(40:26):
I'm superman and you're not. Yeah, I mean, I will
say this. I feel like I've been surprised at the
responsibility um that these athletes have displayed. The guys in
the bubble, the guys that are outside the bubble in
UH football and those guys, they have done a really
good job of being responsible. And as long as they
are responsible, we're going to be able to consume the
sports that we love consuming. And so that's been a

(40:48):
good thing. Right as of now, knock on wood, nothing's happened.
Hopefully it won't happen when they started playing. But this
guy is a captain and he may not see much
playing time. We're gonna tell you all about it where
on Fox Sports Saturday, coming up right here next. Don't
pencil him in just yet. We'll tell you why in
just about a minute. This is Fox Sports Saturday. He's

(41:10):
Bucky Brooks. I'm in the fermative for Jonas Knocks and
we'll come in to you live from the guy called
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a free rate quote here he is, Mr Bucky Brooks.
You know what, I have to be honest with you,
and I always have been. I got a bit of
a complex. And when I hate the intro, it's like
Bucky Brooks, five NFL teams, five time All Star, five

(41:33):
years in the NFL. Andy Ferman always just found the
schmuck on the street. He's gonna talk to Buckey brook
for a couple hours. I mean, give me high school graduate. Really,
I went. I went to high school. It took me
seven years at night high school. Give me something, give me,
give me a hint, give me a pat on the back.
Andy Ferman, who once got an A in algebra, really something. Really,

(41:54):
it's embarrassing. It is it is someone embarrassing. It's intimidating.
I'll tell you what. That's the word. It's intimidating. You
go on the football field, you see some guy with
six nine, three fifty and like, I'm a hundred seventy
five pounds and like four eight. That's intimidation. And that's
what you do to me. You intimidate me. No, no, no,
you should be intimidated. Man, you gotta be your own
biggest cheerleader. You gotta support yourself, like I've just been

(42:16):
lucky that I have two great cheerleaders, one and Jonas Knox,
who always does the long, um drawn out intro. And
then I was saying, that's why I also support I
was Sam because I was Sam is giving me the music.
So look, Andy, it starts. Every superhero has to have
a theme song. So you gotta Once you figure out
the theme song, then you can step into your greatness

(42:36):
as your own superhero. Really, so I gotta get this
somebody end of the show today and we'll get a
theme song, right. I gotta ask you a couple of
things that as far as football is concerned, you have
the answer man. You like the Wizard of Oz. As
far as football number one, well, college football continue goes.
I heard in the Sports Update with the gas Man
the top of the hour, I think there was a

(42:58):
Texas Tech game or whatever next week was canceled already,
so that's gone. What TCU I think it was. Will
the Big Ten play these rumors they may start Thanksgiving?
Are they're gonna play? You have the inside man, What
do you think I say, if you're asking me, I say,
it's not gonna happen. College president is gonna overrule the
coaches and the A d s. They're not gonna play.
Why they're not gonna play. They're freid of lawsuits. That's

(43:19):
why they're not gonna play. I think. I think, yeah,
I completely agree with you. They don't want the lawsuits.
They don't want to deal with the litigation. They want
to make sure that, um, they're doing the best thing
by appearances to put their student athletes in the right
position to be able to go through this without having
any hiccups. UM. I think obviously President Trump kind of
stepping in and kind of initiating call with Kevin Warren

(43:41):
the commissioner, certainly let us lead some of that conversation
to kind of be reignited. I just don't see how
the Big Ten can go back on what they said.
I don't think you can do this yo yo game
with the not only the players but the coaches and
trying to get yeah. So, I mean, they released a schedule.
It's so. I think they just have to stand firm.

(44:01):
They gotta stand down, they have to go, and they
have to be ready to play when they want to
play in the spring. Okay, and look, playing in the spring,
I don't see that happening. I'll tell you why. Number one,
just say you you have an injury, a major injury.
You an injurycy out for the spring and more for
the night. You could plably missed a fall with that injury.
You got an a c L. You're not gonna come
back in September. If you get an a c L
in March. See, you missed two seasons. I don't think

(44:23):
guys are gonna play. No, I think I think guys
will play in fact, Like, here's the thing, because we'll
talk about the season, but some coaches would use the
spring for spring ball, Like that's how to review it. There.
Earlier you actually play the season, the more likely you
give your guys an opportunity who do get injured to
be able to play in the fall. So the thing
that would be um, the worst scenario would be to

(44:46):
play this later March April May, because then you're right, Uh,
someone has an injury, they won't be able to they
won't have enough time to fully recovery and come back.
But if you play it early, you get those guys
a chance. But also understand this, the young guys could
get an opportunity to play. You got the young freshman.
Everyone gets to retain a year of eligibility. They're more

(45:06):
than enough players on each and every team to be
able to feel the very competitive squad. So God graduates
high school in December, he could play in January and
February coming to the next So now what they're doing
with that, based on what I've read, they will let
those guys practice with the team, but they won't be
able to play in the spring season. They won't be
able to play until the fall season, but they will

(45:28):
get the benefit of being able to practice. And I'm
gonna tell you any that is a huge advantage for them.
Is one of the advantages that some of the early
and row leaves take advantage of. They go to the
spring to practice in spring ball, so they're ready to
play that fall. Well, now you get a chance to
play a full practice, a full season with your team.
You should be a much better player when you get
a chance to play as a true freshman. Yeah. And
I've always felt that those teams that make bowls that

(45:50):
bowl eligible. Most teams that don't make a ball finish
this season around Thanksgiving. If you make a Bowl, you
have almost an extra month to practice, which gives you
one a heck of an advantage going to the next season.
One extra month of practice. It really has got to help.
It absolutely helps. It is absolutely advantageous. One of the
reasons why teams coaches want to get their teams to
the balls. It is not necessarily to go to the

(46:11):
Bowl and experience that, but it's more so those fifteen
extra days where you can get your kids ready to
play for next year. Um, you can't replace that. Those
ain't valuable. Right. Let's move to the NFL for a second.
I heard a story today that the NFL now is
going to permit fans to attend to home games. To me,
and maybe I'm speaking as a fan right now, that

(46:32):
would give a team, at least in my mind, competitive advantage.
If the Cincinnati Bengals go to Pittsburgh and the Steelers
decided to use one of those games as a fan
attendee game against the Bengals, that's competitive advantage to me.
It is anyway, I don't know why they do that.
Either let them in for every game or no games. Man,

(46:53):
it's tough because everything is different right with the pandemic
like it is hit different areas, uh differently, and so
like the way it is impacted California may not be
the same down in the South. They may not be
the point in the Midwest. And so I think the
biggest thing is you just want to make sure from
a competitive advantage standpoint competitive balance, that you want to

(47:13):
give each and every team an opportunity to have kind
of like a level playing field when it comes to
fan participation, the impact of a home field advantage and
those things, and you know, piping in fake noise and
all this stuff, that's not a real advantage. You need
people in the stands to be able to do that.
We just don't know if some of these areas can't
support it based on the way the numbers have been spiking, right,

(47:35):
And the interesting story is gonna be if they do,
in fact allow fans to come in for those two games,
who the fans will be pointed to come in? How
do they do that? By lottery? How's that going to happen? Yeah,
you gotta get your a lot of ticket, give us
a lot of tickets, right money, get everything ready, and
you gotta hope that that your opinion, your pen poe
ball pops up. You know, I've always felt that the

(47:55):
football is better on TV anyway. It really is. I mean,
you don't have to fight the parking of the traffic,
you don't have to pay thirty five for a beer.
And every time I've gone to a game with my sons,
and if I'm not sitting in the press box and
I go in the stands with tickets, I can't see
the game. Everybody stands. I don't know why they even
have seats. Everybody stands during a football game. It's like
going to a concert. Everybody stands. Why stand, sit down, relax,

(48:17):
take a load off your feet, and watch the game.
But you can't see the game. You can't. Everybody stands.
And I don't like standing. I like sitting. I see,
I see this how it works. Here's one of the
dangers or why uh. Some administrators are scared about not
having fans come to the game because the experience that
you could get off TV with especially in the pros,

(48:40):
with gambling with fantasy football, and they like being able
to assess so many um second screen devices, having your phone,
your iPad, things around, being able to keep up with
everything looking at a big old TV, looking at the
replays or whatever, things that you can't really experience when
you're at the game. This year would be the first

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time that some fans have Oh wow, I didn't know
I can. I can watch Red Zone on one TV
and I can watch my game on the other TV.
Why am I going to the game. So this is
a danger point um for ownership because those fans that
are not coming to the games. You don't know if
you're ever going to get those fans back, right, I'll

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tell you what though, that's gonna happen. I think a
lot in sports right now. People found out there's other
things to do during this pandemic. I mean, I don't
know what you could. I don't know what I did.
I slept, I slept on and I ate. That's what
I did. I mean, what else? What else is they
to do? I trank beer, I ate, and I smoked cigars.
That's what I did. Really, But you know, and I
talked to you when I get a chance, But talk
about the NFL. Cam Newton was selected as captain of

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the New England Patriots. Okay, then Bill Belichick, the coach, says,
don't pencilman as a starter. Have you ever been on
a team where a captain didn't start. I mean, I
guess if we talked about special team ers being captains
but they start on special teams. But no, But make
no mistake about it, Cam Newton is the starting quarterback
for the New England Patriots. After Bill Belichick gave that

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glowing I don't know if you saw that glowing review
that he gave. I mean it was I mean, here's
one of those things that like, like if you're toasting
someone who was recently retiring, that's how I want someone
to talk about, Oh, he's the hardest work I've ever seen,
and you can see that he's he's done all these things.
At that moment, I was like, yeah, Cam is QB
number one. And not only did I confirmed to Cam

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is QB number one? Right then it seems like Cam
is a perfect fit for the Patriot way. Who would
have thought that when he signed late July that Cam
Newton is the perfect Patriot Based on what Bill Belichick
is saying, well, compared to Brian Hoyer and Jared Stidmaney
probably is right. I mean, I mean, I'm not saying anything,
but yeah, I won't get honest to Pincots. I was left.

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I was laughed out of the hallways of Fox Sports
ready on this and you could laugh at me too.
But before the Patriots signed Cam Newton, I suggested, I said,
don't be surprised if Bill Belichick puts Julie and Edelman
on the center, because he played quarterback at Kent State.
You could laugh if you want to. I thought, I thought,
there's a possibility. I mean, how, I mean, how long
are we just talking about for a play every Okay,

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I listen, we've seen him throw like double passes and
those things. But I mean, are you are you thinking
about he was gonna have an extensive package, like he
was gonna be version of Lamar Jackson. I thought maybe perhaps,
maybe look here, you're laughing now, I know that's okay,
It's okay. I will say something that I learned from
a great player. I learned this from Andre Rozen. Sometimes,
like sometimes you gotta go to a hot take because

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the hot take will make you memorable. You think, yeah,
that's a very memorable hot take. Yes, so some of
my tastes have been memorable, and I wish I could
take them back. That really, I mean, I just threw
it and I threw it out there just because I
know he played quarterback, not because I want to. I
don't want to be memorable. Forget about me, please, That's
what I said. Really, But Brian Hoyer and Jared Stipman,
they ain't cutting it. And the only reason Julie and

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Edelman feels good, I mean the only reason that Cam
Newton feels good on the New England Patriots. I think
the salary structure really help too, you know what he's
getting paid. That had helped. Yeah, I mean dad had
to help. There was also, um some mystery to Cam
Newton in terms of like is he healthy, is he
gonna be ready to play? Um? And then not only that,

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there's the other stuff that people worried about with Cam
Newton because when you look at Cam Newton on the field,
the flamboyance, um, the celebrations, those things. Um yeah, man,
you definitely can say, oh, he appears to be a
very selfish guy guy that's for about him over the
team and those things. And I think that scared some

(52:35):
people in the way. And I'm gonna be honest. Some
of the stuff that people, um I kind of found
out about him or what they thought about him when
he was coming out as a prospect. That kind of
clouded their evaluation when he was on the market. Now
and so the scary thing for the league is Cam
Newton has always been a guy that was a thorn
in the side of Bill Belichick in the Patriots. Well,

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now you have Bill Belichick getting someone who respected as
a play yere immensely and talking to people inside the
building before he got there, he really respected him. But
now he gets a chance to completely remake his offense
and build his offense and what I call a new
school fashion. After watching the Deshaun Watson's, the Lamar Jackson's,
the Patrick Mahomes, the athletic playmakers Kyla Murray, Russell Wilson

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have success in this league. Oh, Bill Belichick thinks this
is fun because he's going to be able to torment
defensive coordinators like those guys torment him when he has
to face them. There we go. I'll tell you what,
that makes a lot of sense. Will continue that conversation
because he's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Ferminant for Jonas Knocks.
Eleven year NFL veteran and analysts for Pro Football Focus.

(53:39):
Bruce Gradkowski joins you next eleven year. NFL vet and
analysts for Pro Football Focus, Bruce Kottkowski joins you momentarily
twenty past the hour. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Ferminant
for Jonas Knocks and right now let's go to the
Fox Sports Celebrity Hotline. He's a former Tilda Rocket. He's
a former said Sundi bagel straight from Tony Pacos and Toledo.

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Don't want it only Bruce Gradkowski. Hello, Bruce, how are you?
Oh man, Tony Pocos. You said it? You get me
going now I'll try it. There we go. Hey, NFL
opens the season Thursday night. I gotta ask you how
much russ do We're gonna see? Possibly poor tackling. More
than that, Teams with veteran rosters would seem to have

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a bit of an advantage. Don't forget the officials are
gonna be rusty too to have that any preseason. No, yeah,
you're you're right with the officials. I mean I'm not.
I'm not anticipating a ton of ross. I mean, could
you think about it. The starters don't play that much
anyways in the preseason. Um, it's just gonna be I
feel like normal. The thing I worry about is conditioning, right,

(54:44):
your physical fitness. Are you in shape? And those tweaked hamstrings,
the poled muscles, the groins, That's where I worry about.
I don't want to see guys having some more injuries
because they didn't have O, T A S and mini
camp and they've had uh maybe a quickened training camp
uh to get ready for the season. So I just

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hope that's not the case. But man, I'm fired up,
especially to see two young studs, high paid stud quarterbacks
in action Thursday night. You know, it's it's it's interesting verse.
And when you think about these two quarterbacks, Pat Mahomes,
Deshaun Watson, both of these guys that have just gotten paid, Um,
what is the most impressive thing about each of them

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when you study them on tape? You know, I think
they're both super dynamic, right, Like they could both extend
plays and make plays outside the pocket. And in today's NFL,
you need to do that. You need to be able
to do that. I think with Deshaun Watson, he's as
good as any quarterback in the league, but he has
to get rid of the downward spiral games where there's

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multiple turnovers, maybe interceptions and fumbles and sacks in the pocket.
If he can clean that up, I mean, he's truly
gonna be uh talking about in the same breath as
a Patrick Mahomes because of their skill level is so unique.
I mean Patrick Mahomes, we love what he does. I mean,
he's so fun and electrifying to watch. It was impressive

(56:11):
last year the way he took control of the playoffs
with his legs and making key plays like that. So
those two guys are just hard to stop. And I'm
excited though, to see what that Houston Texans offense looks
like without DeAndre Hopkins, you know, because that's gonna be
that's gonna be a big miss downfield. I mean because um,
Deshaun Watson grated very well for us to PFF with

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his twenty plus yard downfield throws. Now you're lacking DeAndre Hopkins.
I want to see what that offense looks like. He's
Bruce Gotkowski, eleven year veteran and analysts for Pro Football Focus,
joining us with Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Ferman. Now the
late Paul Brown said when he cut the guys in
his time to pursue your life's work. Do we say
that to Josh Rosen today? Oh man, it's tough. You know,

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this is a tough day. You know, I've been in
this position many of times, and not always on the
good end of it. Right where you get the comber,
you get called in your hand. You're hearing in a playbook.
And I remember one specific time I was with the
Rams during training camp and Scott Linehan was the head coach.
You had, you know, Mark Balder was the starter, Trent
Green was the backup, and Brought Berlin and I were

(57:19):
battling for the third spot. And I was only there
for training camp because Campa Bay just released me. And
after training camp, you know, everyone's released except we have
fifty four guys on the roster and we have four quarterbacks.
And I'm looking around like, okay, this, you know this
is gonna happen. You know this, This can't happen. They're
gonna let one of us go. And I remember talking

(57:41):
to Scott Linahan and he sat me down. He said, Bruce,
you got it, You got it. You got what it takes.
You know that it's factor they talk about. You got it,
but we're gonna have to let you go. And I'm like,
I'm like Bucky. I'm thinking to myself, well, I must
not have it. But it's just, you know, it's a
tough league because cuts happen when you know you're just

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you know, I'm sure coaching stats getting a ton of
fights during this time of year because you know, a
wide receiver coach might need to keep that extra wide receiver,
a dB coach wants to keep his extra dB. The
head coach has to decide if both guys who plays
more special teams, what do they bring. So so many
decisions go into you know, cutting these guys, and then

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we talk about Josh Rosen. To answer your question, I
think it's based on his mindset. I mean, some team's
gonna give him an opportunity. I definitely think, especially during
this COVID time, I think it makes sense to keep
three quarterbacks. I'll surprise the Dolphins moved on from him,
just be because of this time. You know, I'm not
surprised because of his play. Um, so we'll see. But

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I think it's the mindset and I think that's what
Rosen has been lacking, and hopefully he learned some stuff
from Ryan Fitzpatrick. You know, it's funny because just to
stay on the Josh Rosen thing, it's remarkable to me
that a quarterback that was taken ten overall um so
quickly has been kind of dumped on and giving up on.
And I would say that I don't think the circumstances

(59:10):
have been ideal for him. But that said, when you've
looked at Josh Rosen on tape just as a quarterback,
what do you like? What don't you like? Bucky? I
saw your tweet the other day. I thought you were
spot on. I mean, because he definitely didn't get drafted
to an ideal situation, right, I mean, you have coaching

(59:32):
changes going into your second year. You know, it's not
um people that drafted you that's gonna invest time in you.
In so many times, man, it's like, yes, we're talking
about Patrick Mahomes, Deshaun Watson, guys that have a unique ability.
But also I'm telling you half of the quarterbacks out
there are in good situations with a good coach, in

(59:54):
an environment that can help him succeed. Josh Rosen On, Hey,
he can do it all. I'm he's an accurate passer,
he hasn't enough arm. He could get the job done.
I mean, he's a very bright kid. The thing I
worry about is his athleticism, right, you know, extended plays,
buying time and things of that sort um. You know,

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he did make some plays in that area last year
for the Dolphins. I remember watching, but it's just not
enough and there's just something lacking. But I do think
as a passer man, he can really sling that football.
But it's gonna be interesting to see who gives them
a shot and where it is and how much time
they invest in them. Bruce Gratowski, why did the Chicago

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Bears picked Mr Trobitsky oven it flows as their daughter
because they need both guys this year? You know, I
think they need both guys, so why not keep both
of them? You know, kind of engaged right now. I
think with Trubinsky, he's young. He's played already over nine
snaps in two seasons, where Nick Fools has only played

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seven d snaps back in two thousand. You know, so
you worry. I worry a little bit about Nick Foles
staying healthy and whatnot. But I also have said it
from the beginning, they're gonna need both these guys, and
I think if Rubinsky stuff, uh, you know, stumbles a
little bit. Now that's when, honestly, Nick Foles plays his
best when he's the robin to the batman, all the

(01:01:22):
pressures not on his shoulders and he could come in
and kind of save the day. I think that's where
Nick Foles really can uh excel at. I mean, you
look at the coaching staff, right. Matt Neegi was with
Fulls in Kansas City, Bill Laser was with Nick Foles
in Philadelphia, uh for his first stint. Uh D Philippo

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was in Philadelphia when Fools, you know, won the Super Bowl,
and then was with him in Jacksonville. So the coaching
staff knows him, and that's why I was kind of
surprised they went with Rabinsky. But when you think about it,
they're eventually gonna go to Foles and it's just a
matter of oni. Wow, man, it's so crazy. It's so
crazy to think about this because it is really highlighted

(01:02:07):
now that Patrick Mahomes and Deshaun Watson, two guys that Mr.
R Bisky was drafted ahead of, have found their megadiz
and he had his fifth year option decline. Um. Last thing,
I want to talk about Kirk Cousins, but not about
the stuff with the mask and what he said or whatever.
What do you expect from Kirk Cousins with Gary Kubiak
being his offensive coordinator instead of Kevin Stefanski. I expect

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Kirk Cousins to light it up. I mean, I think
what struck me is Uh. Sam Monson for us at
PFF had a great article out and talking about Cousins
has the same grade as Patrick Mahomes from a clean
pocket over the past two seasons. I think Kirk Cousins
is the ideal quarterback and Kubiak system, and you're gonna see.
I mean, you saw what Kubiak did with Matt shob

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back in Houston for years, and I just I think
that's that. You know, they could be very successful. I
think with Adam Steeling justin ever since coming on, I mean,
I think they do have enough weapons, uh Dalvin Cook.
So it's gonna be interesting to see. But I just
I bet on that Tanem with Kubiak and Cousins, because

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Cousins man, honestly, he doesn't There's not many quarterbacks that
throw the ball better than him. He's just a really
good natural throw, very accurate. And I think the playoff
win last year really helped him get over that hump.
You know, people want to, you know, bash him about
his leadership style. It GE's it's different. You know, we're
all different. It's times we can all be kind of
like quirky and stuff. But I mean, look, you know

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he has fun with things. I think guys on the
team you take him as he is and you keep
it going. But I think on the field, man, I
really do think he slings it better than a lot
of qps. Bruce one last one for me, so I
can only do it back to Tony Paco's. I want
to know maybe some of the bigger surprises to look
for in this upcoming NFL season. You know, I'm really

(01:03:57):
uh interested to see the Patriots. I I can't wait
to see because they you know, I feel like a
lot of people have counted them out all off season
and talk about the Buffalo Bills, and and I like
the Bills. You know, I think Sean McDermott is a
fantastic head coach and leader. But man, don't count out
Bill Belichick. So I cannot wait to see how the
Patriots play and how they do uh Tom Brady and

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in Tampa. I mean that's gonna be interesting and fun
and exciting to watch. You know, I'm I'm always interested
in the a f C. North. You know, Big Ben's healthy,
That Steelers defense is electrifying. How did they put that together?
Mike Tomlin is one of the best leaders I've been
around in football, and so so many cool storylines. But guys,
we always know there's a group, there's a team that

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surprises us all. And who's that going to be this year?
I don't know. Man Baker May feels back is against
the wall, Damn Donald, Josh Allen. They need to come
into their own and prove that they are the franchise
guy for years to come. Uh, Kyler Murray with DeAndre Hopkins.
I mean, that's gonna be fun to watch. The man
so cool storylines and I can't believe it's this week,

(01:05:02):
So I'm getting excited. That's great. Thank you, Bruce, Bruce Gratkowski,
I love in your NFL V an analyst for Pro
Football Focus. Get him on Twitter at b Gratkowski five.
Thank you. Enjoy the holiday, Bruce, Thank you. Yeah, thanks, guys,
have a good week. Here we go. He's Bucky Brooks,
I'm Andy Ferman, Infa Jonas knots and why is his
choice so controversial? That's next, But first to the Gafts

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mean himself. David Gascon with the latest for ball and
Bucky we got ask him you on the scoreboard finally
and the Mustangs lead seven or nothing over Texas State.
Army and Marshall did a lot of scoring, but not
their opponents. Army beat down Middle Tennessee forty two to nothing,
Marshall fifty nine to nothing in that ball game. National
Football U Deshaun Watson four years in a hundred and

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sixty million dollars on his extension, canaw and gets over
eighty million dollars on a forty year deal. Ken't see.
Chiefs released running back DeAndre Washington. Bengals of allowing six
thousand fans at their home games on two over the
fourth against didn't get that last year in one game.
What are you talking about? I'm sorry. Maybe people want
to see the opposition. What's that is? I don't know.

(01:06:09):
Maybe he got balt somewhere of that division. You Pittsburgh,
when Big Bat is healthy, you do you get emotional?
Browns are gonna allow ten percent of the uh the
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beat Sloan Stevens to advance after her third round matchup
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a three year contract extension, Thank you so much. He's
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But he is Bucky Brooks. He's not alone. He's with me.

(01:06:51):
I'm Andy Ferman, Infant Jonah snocksone coming to you live
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we gotta roll along here, Buck, We really do. But

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the story of the week I thought was Steve Nash
being named coach of the NBA's Brooklyn Nets. Came out
of nowhere, really, and then some claimed it was quote
white privilege. It makes me sick. It really makes me
sick that there are some people who have such irresponsible
broadcasting ethics, irresponsible journalistic techniques that you have to bring

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that up, and they don't do their homework because since
nine nine of the last Brooklyn Nets or New Jersey Nets,
either one their coaches were black, and they talk about
guys that maybe did not have experience that came into
the league who may have been from the black skin,
Doc Rivers, Jason Kidd, Derek Fisher, And let's go away

(01:07:54):
to doing your history. People, do your history. Let's go
way back. Bill Russell was the first African American head
coach in the National Basketball Association and also Casey Jones
coach to Boston Celtics. So where is this, where's this
coming from? Why must we have this divide? Bucky helped
me because it makes me sick because I think when
race it decepts sports, it rooms the entire meaning and

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the purpose of sports. That makes me sick. Well, I mean,
look like you can't separate like race from sports and
raise from all those things. But I do believe the
comments that people directed about Steve nash is hiring being
white privileged with misguided and misdirected. Here's what I will say, Um,
I think some of the I guess outrage or hurt

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feelings came from the fact that Steve Nash is going
to step into a job that appears to be a
really good job on paper, Kyrie Irving, Kevin Durant. They
have a talented supporting cast around them. It looks like
it's set up for him to have success. Some will
say that when other guys get other opportunities, they may
not have um the same opportunity to jump into a
job that is ready made to pop. That said, here's

(01:08:58):
what I say about Steve Nash. Steve Nash worked behind
the scenes with the Golden State Warriors as a skill
development coach. Steve Nash is a point guard and in
the NBA, point guards are viewed as coaches on the floor,
so not only from a technical stints from a communication
and management standpoint. He is prepared to deal with players

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and put guys in positions to have success. His previous
relationship with Kevin Durant as that skill development coach, that
player development coach in Golden State, I'm sure it played
a role in Kevin Durant possibly advocating for Steve Nash
to be there, and because he was a point guard,
and because maybe the most important player on the team

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outside of Kevin Durant is Kyrie Irving. Maybe the next
management believe that he can get the best out of Kyrie,
not only as Caylie the player, but the leader. So
for me, I'm not offended. I think this is actually
a nice move. If he surrounds himself with good coaches,
like veteran coaches, much like Steve um Curve was able

(01:10:01):
to do and go in the state, why wouldn't he
have success. I don't think it should have been as
big of an issue as it has been, because I
do believe Steve Nash has special qualities to offer as
a coach. I was shocked when I heard those remarks
about the white places. Where in the heck is this
coming from? But I will tell you this much. I
am certain I could bet a dollar to a donut

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that Kyrie Irving and Kevin Duran gave their blessing to
Neet's management before they hired Steve Nash. I'm sure of it.
They're not gonna hire this guy without their blessing because
those guys make this team go. Now. Steve Nash is
a player. He was a five man guy. He moved
to basketball. He always looked for the open man, and
he played up temple basketball. And I think that's basically
what the NBA is right now. That's what they're moving towards.

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It's a copycat league like every other, like every other
sports league. Look what the Houston Rockets are doing. People
are doing that right now. I love the ball movement
of the Houston Rockets. It's small man basketball. I mean,
it doesn't work in Philadelphia that have an old time
nineteen seventies center. That doesn't work, Joel Beat It's not working.
It doesn't work there anymore. They don't play back to
the basket anymore. Centers. They play open, they play three

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point Guild goals. They got fifty one shots a game
at three in Houston. That's what they do. So Steve
Nash is gonna open it up. He said, I'm up
Temple game, and I don't care if it's white, purple, green,
up blue. He's the coach. Let it go. Yeah. Now, look,
I understand, I understand your viewpoint, but I will say
just to give you some context on why people sense
this like they're still a bit of um, I guess

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like hurt feelings about the Mark Jackson Steve Kerr thing. Okay,
so there's a feeling that Mark Jackson tied up the
Golden State Warriors on the to be on the verge
of greatness. He's dumbed. Steve Kerr walks in, and we
celebrate Steve Kerr's greatness as a coach, even though many
feel like Mark Jackson did the dirty work. There are

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some people that are going to see Steve nash inheriting
the situation that is ready made for him to be
able to be celebrated as a high level coach. Are
some guys like a Dwyane Fizdale may have taken a
job in New York there wasn't a great job. Um,
he took some other things. And so there's a sense
sometimes that guys get prime opportunities that others wouldn't get

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in the same circumstance. I'm with you a thousand percent.
I'll tell you what. Last year, Dwayne Kessi was Coach
of the Year Toronto got fired. He got fired. He
was named coach of the Year for the Toronto Raptors
and they fired him that he was coaching the Detroit
Distance And I'm with you ten percent because I love
Mark Jackson. I saw Mark Jackson playing high school. He
played for Bishop Blocklan High School in Brooklyn and my neighborhood,
so I saw him play there. I got to know him,

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and he played at St. John's. He's a New York
guy and I hope to God one day he comes
back and coaches the New York Knicks if they they're
the fire Tom Thibodeau, because he'll get fired to like
everybody else. But the point is this, You're right, Mark
Jackson got screwed. But that's the nature of the beast.
No one said life is fair and has nothing to
do with color. It's about connections, networking and the best
fit and people who want somebody else. That's what it's

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all about, right. I mean, it is supposed to be
there like sports. I supposed to be the ultimate meritocracy. However,
it hasn't always been like that. And you talked about
relationships and networking. In those things, sometimes others don't have
the advantages when it comes to building and fortifying those relationships.
I'm not saying that that is necessarily the case. With

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Steve Nash, but to provide context as to why there was, um,
some hard feelings or a level of the Twitter verse
kind of coming undone when he was named the coach.
That's where it stems from. It stems from kind of
like a long backdrop of feeling like some guys haven't
gotten fair shakes of the position, and you bringing up

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to Dwayne Casey, um situation that was yeah, that would
be another example. But then that said, it worked out
because Nick Nurse took him to another level. So I mean, um,
it's one of those things. It's one of it was
one of those things or whatever. But I will say
this about Steve Nash. I am always in favor of
former players getting opportunities to coach. I think he could

(01:13:59):
and will a really good job. I think his mind,
his like, and I mean mind like in terms of
not only basketball, but just how open he is. The
humanitarian that he is should help him connect and really
you talk about relationships. Being a great coach is about
having great relationships with your players to get them to
really buy into your vision. I think Steve Nash will

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be able to do that. You're exactly right, and what
bothers me where anything else is not so much the
white privilege garbage because some people gonna buy into with
some people or not. I just looked at it at
Lant and said, wow, just wow. Really what bothers me
is that the people who make these remarks don't go
back and do their homework. They just spouted out and maybe,
as you said, they want a hot take. Maybe that's
what they want to go back and look, Bill Russell

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had no no experience as a coach whatsoever. But when
Red Alback retired, he said, there's only one guy who
could coach Bill Russell, and that's Bill Russell. Bill Russell
was the first African American coach and the National Basketball Association.
No one mentions that. No one mentions that with no experience,
no experience, it pretty good too, as a matter of fact,
I mean certainly did so he can happen. I look,

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I think it's one of those things. And I think
given the time, uh, their sensitivity uh everywhere, but I
think this situation is one that wasn't necessarily one to
deserve to kind of be singled out as one of
those situations. You're exactly right, as always, He's Bucky Brooks.
I'm Andy Ferman in for the Jonas Knocks, but not
many people would want to live there yet. Here's this

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spokesperson and member of the Chamber of Commerce. The Iowa
Minute is next, the Iowa Minute, coming right about twelve
minutes before the top of the hour. He's Bucky Brooks.
I'm in for Jonas Knocks. My name is Andy Ferman.
I'll tell you what I know. Jonas Knocks knocks to say,
it's one of the worst segments in radio today. I'm
not gonna go that far. It's not that good, but
it's not the worst, all right, But we're gonna give

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you a little more time than you normally get from him.
But here we go with the Iowa Minute. He got
a minute heaven, oh Iowa like you give a damn now,
presenting the most up to date happenings from Iowa's four
Division one teams, ladies and gentlemen, thousand pigs. It's the

(01:16:11):
Iowa Minute. Here's Iowa Sam Oh boy, oh Oh. Joel
Bliss here, Andy, welcome in, Andy Ferman too, the Iowa Minute.
It's funny. Yeah, I'm not from Iowa though, No you're
not not not far away, thank god. Actually you were
born in Brooklyn, right, correct, Yeah, yeah, so you're far away,
all right. Uh, it's kind of funny, Andy. We have
a pretty light Iowa minute for you today, but you

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think it's pretty like if you were here in June
or July. We had no shortage of stories, not always
the most off uplifting stories coming out of Io City,
But I digress. Guys. We know the Big Ten season
still hangs in the balance. Not feeling too optimistic about
a late fall launch. We'll get back to the Big
Ten in a moment. But we are one week, one

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week from cyclone football. Iowa State the only Division One
program within the state of Iowa officially ready to go,
scheduled to go, and the Clones have the Raging Cajuns
from Louisiana Lafayette coming to Jack Trite Stadium in Aims.
By the way, I s U only a twelve point favorite,
and maybe that smallish line explained by my next story.

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So they're gonna have fans in the stands. I'm getting
to that handy uh speak of it. Some eyebrows raised
on Monday of this past past week when the school
announced that twenty five thousand fans would be permitted to
attend the Cajuns Clones opener. Just about forty eight hours later,
on Wednesday, Athletics director Jamie Pollard announced that school president

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when Wendy Winterstein had informed him that she was reversing
her decision. Perhaps the lack of fans even twenty five
thou fans lowered that point spread a little bit. No
fan intimidation. There's obviously a reason for the fan reversal. Iowa,
and more specifically aims Iowa, home to Iowa State and
Iowa City, Iowa, home to the University of Iowa. Now

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COVID hot spots in a state that leads the country
in cases not a question. Not good, not good. Yeah,
more corn stalks in the state of Iowa. Well, COVID
clay cases. Definitely, more corn stocks, definitely, although after the
De Rachel storm they might be more COVID cases now,
but I don't know, Probably still more corn stocks. Um

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many of the cases attributed to the students returning to campus.
Paulard did not rule out fans at future games this season,
but obviously Iowa needs to do a better job of
pulling those case numbers down. And I mentioned the Big
ten earlier. We now know the presidents voted eleven to
three to postpone the season. I don't know, guys, maybe
we can all stop treating Big ten Commissioner Kevin Warren

(01:18:41):
like a human shield. He was merely passing along information,
and you know that old phrase, don't shoot the messenger.
We've already heard this Thanksgiving stirred idea. But if you
were listening to the Dan Patrick Show this week, Dan
has been getting some intel from a confidential source of
his who mentioned October tenth as a possible start date. Well,

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it's already September five, guys, and players need time to practice,
so I'm not really sure how feasible that date is.
DP also relayed from his source that the presidents may
vote again in the near near future, perhaps buckling under
the pressure from fans and Big ten parents. But we
have yet to hear any developments on that. So for
right now, Iowa State has the green light, while Iowa

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Drake and Northern Iowa are stuck in neutral until further notice. Bucky,
I'm not wrong here. Big Tennis in starting on October
tent right on, and I don't think the Thanksgiving ideas
gonna work either, right. Excuse me if I May first. Second,
everybody's banging on Kevin Warren, the Big ten commissioner that
the parents kind of protesting at Ohio State Stadium about

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a week ago. Don't you think Kevin Warren wants to play?
Don't you think he's of course dollars at all? Well,
why are they banging on Kevin Warren? I mean, personally,
it's probably not even his decision. I think it's the
Provost and the presidents. He had right take the brunt
of the criticism for three for the last three or
four weeks, or at least since August eleventh, when they

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decided to postpone. But it turns out behind the scenes,
you know, it was out of his control for the
most part. All right, guys. Finally, shout out to my
high school, Iowa City West winning the crosstown rivalry with
Iowa City Hi High, also called the Battle of the Boot.
The West High Trojans took the bronze boot from the
City Hide Little Hawks fifty six to twenty. And to
our wonderful sponsor up to the minute Grain Prices for

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bringing us a single, one single Eastern Iowa High school
football score. Hey, Iowa isn't a drought right now, farmers
need some rain. Been a rough summer for the grains.
And that's your Iowa minute. Thank you so much. Now,
you know we have a little time here right now,
you still about Iowa and things like that. I'll run
this by bucket and you two, Iowa. What is the
best sports city in America? As far as like, if
you're a fan, who would you'd like to live? As

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far as and I'll tell you my city you're gonna live.
I'm gonna say Detroit. Detroit has it all. Great college
with the Big Ten, they got NBA, MLB National full baldly,
they got at all. I think Detroit's one of the
top sports cities in America. You're talking about well, East Lancing,
how far is that from Detroit. I mean it's all reasonable.

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They haven't got a lot of winning though, Andy, No, No,
that's that. That's a different story. I mean Chicago will
be I think Chicago will be considered a great city. Um.
I think the normal Madison, Wisconsin will be nice. You
know you're doing well. I mean that the Packers not
far away. I mean that's very small, very tiny, very
New York. Um. I know, look, l A gets ragged

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on a little bit because we're a later ribbing crowd.
But yeah, Boston, Boston wouldn't be bid. Yeah, bus is
not too bad. Philly is tough. What do we think?
What do you think about Philly? Philly thinking to mix
not bad? Philly is not bad. I'll tell you what.
This guy's biggest competition is mortality. We're gonna tell you
who he is on Fox Sports side coming up right
here next. He's been in decline. We'll get to that

(01:21:56):
in just about a minute. Yes, we've coursed the fifty
online and will be called Sports Saturday. He's the five
year pro Bucky Brooks. I'm the five years schmuck, a
defirmative for Jonas Knocks. I'm gonna come it to you
live from the guy called Fox Sports Radio Studios. Fifteen
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i go dot com for a free ray quote. Buck.
We crossed the fifty oddline right now. We're rolling. We're

(01:22:18):
trudging along right now, pushing looking for that end zone.
We're gonna get to the end zone and get paid dirt.
I know we will. Let's get to it. I gotta
tell you I would be a hell of a teammate.
If I was with you, believe me, I'd be a
hell of a team because I'm I'm the guy that
would pass first, I looked for the assist. I'm a
team player, and I would play hurt. I would do

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all those things. That's what I would do. I mean,
I appreciate you playing hurt. I appreciate we don't have
to look at you side out because you're not a
tough guy. You have to be a tough guy. You
have to be tough to play huh. Yes, football, you
have to have some tough I'm sure more mental, mental

(01:23:00):
and physical, but yeah, you gotta. You gotta be able
to be a grind. You gotta be tough enough, and
that's a requirement. That's why I didn't play. I was
pretty good cutting oranges though at halftime. They don't even
do that anymore. They drink gating right now. But on
high school I was cutting the oranges for the basketball team.
Pretty good manager, I really was, you know, never let
him down. You know, I talk about the NFL because
you have the made with the NFL. You know it all.
And I gotta ask the question. I mean, I thought

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there was gonna be a quarterback battle for the first
time in more than a decade in Chicago at Trabinsky
Mitchell Trobisky that is, and Nick Foles. They tried for
Nick Foles. We talked to our guy, Bruce Gradkowski and
he wasn't really surprised with Troubisky getting the nod. But
the last time may have been I think maybe back
in two thousand and eight when Kyle Orton and Rex Grossman.
That was before Jake Cutler. He repeat that, repeat that,

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because my stomach just kind of I know the last
time and quarterback. But it's amazing that this team has
been so good at defense. They can't get it right
a quarterback on offense. They just can't. You know. It's
it's tough, right, It's tough for you to Chicago Bears.
And the history, like the history of the team for
so has always been about the defense. Like they are
identified by the defense. You go all the way back

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Masters of the Medway. You think about how they won
the Super Bowl UM in the eighties with Mike Dickie,
it was about that defense. Um when they play well
a love Smith of going to the Super Bowl, it
was the defense basically playing offense because their ability to
score points. Uh, Matt Neeggie has come to Chicago and
he's attempted to do it a little differently. But even
when they had success and they went on the playoff run,
the defense played apart the tough thing about being I mean,

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I say this, even though we've seen Green Bay have
successful quarterbacks um in lambeau Field, with the condition conditions
in the Windy City, it takes a special type quarterback
to be able to thrive. You not only have to
be tough because the city requires it. Uh. You not
only have to have a big arm because the windy
city requires that you have a big arm to be

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able to cut through the wind, but you have to
be able to kind of just embody what a big
time quarterback is. Meaning you can put the team on
the shoulders when you have to. Um, you can make
plays inside and outside of the pocket. You can do
all these things. And for whatever reason, Chicago has not
been able to find that guy. Now they're hopeful. They're
still uh pending their hopes to mitter Dubinski, hoping he

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could be that guy after being the second overall pick.
But I mean, it doesn't take much to look at
him and to look at Pat Mahomes and DeShawn Watson
to say that, hey, he's not quite built like those guys.
So the trick will be, what does Ryan Pays do
even if Mitchell Drabinsky is a quarterback all year, does
he go back and try and find the guy that
is an upgrade over what they have at the position,

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or is he going to stick with his draft grades
and kind of stick with the original decision to anoint
Mitchell Dubinsky as a franchise quarterback. I think you hit
it right on the head. Why Mitchell Drobisky is getting
the nod over Nick Foles number one? You know, Nick
Foles is probably a better wipe up guy, a mop
up guy than Trabinsky number one. But number two, it's
a failure. You admit failure if you don't start Trabisky
because where you drafted him and basically not starting him says, look,

(01:25:59):
we made him as we failed. So you know, people
could say what they want that it looks great in
training camp. There is no training camp. Really, there's no
live snaps. What do they do zoom zoom meetings? I
mean really, I mean, if you don't play the game,
you can't get better. That's basically what it is. In boxing,
you have to get a sparring partner. You're not gonna
go in the ring without having a sparring partner. In football,
you gotta go on the field and take snaps. That's

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basically what it is. And people don't mention this about Drabinski.
If he wants to stay the first quarterback, the number
one quarterback in Chicago, he better run the football a
little more than last year. Last year he gained get this,
only a nine three yards. That's ridiculous. He's got to
run the football more and better. I mean, he does.
He has to do. He has to do exactly what

(01:26:40):
is needed to be done to really solidify himself. And
even that, like it takes a lot, because like once
you get this this stench on you and and you
have the Twitter verse and everyone poking the bear and
poking at you, like, it's hard to get changed at perception.
You have to play at a high level and not
only played a high level, fo you gotta do it consistently.
Does he have that in him? Right? And we'll we'll see.

(01:27:02):
Let's we'll see if he does. But you know what,
here's a quarterback. We're gonna talk about the place at
a high level, Tom Brady. Let's talk about Tom Brady
because I said his biggest competition his mortality. Why do
I say that his yards per game average, his touchdown rate,
his completion rate, and his efficient efficiency rating has all
been in declines his sixteen Now you can put all
the onners on him because he didn't have much of

(01:27:22):
an offense the last two years. He really didn't. He's
forty three years of as now, and you can't beat
father time. He signed a fifty million dollar guaranteed for
two years with Tampa Bay. He got some good players
around him now, Mike Evans, Chris Godwin. Each morning a
thousand receiving guards listened, and now he's got gronk, but candles,
diminishing skills lead Tampa Bay to the Promised Land, which

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I mean the Super Bowl. So here here's what I
was saying. The supporting cast around Tom Brady can elevate
Tom Brady. Tom Brady can no longer elevate the people
around him with his play. He can do it with
his mind. He can manage the game, he can do things.
He understands how to playing the clutch and perform. But
from a physical standpoint, he's not that player that we saw,

(01:28:03):
uh and we revered. He's still the greatest, still still
go down as the greatest of all time. But last year,
the guy that showed up on tape was a guy
that was declining and declining significantly. Um. He wasn't accurate.
He was missing more lit ups than we've ever seen
him missed. Um. The last couple of years, he has
been a guy who doesn't obviously no quarterback lies contact.
But look, he flinched more lastly than we've ever seen

(01:28:25):
him flinch. Here's the thing. The tam Bay Buccaneers have
put around him everything that you possibly could put around
the quarterback, to big time receivers in Godwin and Mike Evans,
three tight ends in Gronkowski, Cameron Braid and O. J. Howard. Uh,
they traded for well, I mean they didn't trade for,
but they got Leonard fer nett Um to bring him
over to give them a physical, downhill back to go

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with Ronald Jones and Shady McCoy. The offensive line is
a question mark, but man Tom Brady has everything around
him and a great offensive coach. Yeah, but the thing is,
I still don't know if the coaches system matches how
Tom Brady likes to play. Remember Bruce arians coin, no
risk it, no biscuit. They want to push the ball
down the field. Part of the reason why Jami's had

(01:29:08):
a ton of turnovers is because this is a team
that they go big game hunting. Like when they go
on the hunting trip, they're coming back with the big things.
You know that they're not coming back we like the
little the little squirrels and and the rapids, Like they're
coming down with the big deer and all that other stuff.
And so yeah, so they're they're going after it. Tom
Brady doesn't really play like that. Tom Brady is a

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is a a dink and dunk guy who operates with
surgical precision, but he likes to spread you out, get
it down there. He will take his shots down the
field off play action, which is why Leonard Fournette is there.
People gonna talk about the running game and the lack
of Russian yards. It's the mere threat of Leonard Fournette
being a downhill presence that will enable them to push
the ball down the field. But I don't know if
Tom Brady can dust it off and be that guy.

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I think he's more manager than playmaker at this stage.
But man, the team that he's managing is really really
good around here. Yes, that's gonna be pretty friend perhaps
to adapt to a new offensive system and of course
a tougher division. We didn't even talk about that. It's
a much tougher division than he's been in. Well, I
think when you look when you take on a player
like Tom Brady, the system that you're running is his system.

(01:30:13):
It's too hard to try and get him to do
all the things that you want to do. It reminds
me of what Peyton Manning did when he went to Denver.
You remember when he went to Denver, they were like, hey,
we're gonna run our system. We were comfortable about four
games in. Peyton Manning was like, hey, man, I I
need to do what I did in Indianapolis if you
want to get the best to me. They made the
change and the Broncos were rolling and that next year

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I think that's when Peyton Manning said that touchdown record
when he through with fifty fifty five what what? However
many touchdown passes he through the year that was that
was really really dominant in Denver, and so I think
they may have to meet Tom Brady halfway and do
a lot of the things. Did he dick successfully with
the New England Patriots? And and now the question is
going to be in the biggest storyline perhaps is gonna

(01:30:55):
be does Belichick win without Brady? Was did Brady make
Belichick well? Vice versa in Tampa Bay. If Brady doesn't
win with that good talent around them right now to
say well, Belichick must have made him. So there's a
lot of stake for each one of these especially for
what's going to happen for their legacy. Yeah, look, this
is this is a tough one, right and I think

(01:31:15):
both guys deserve credit for their part and the success
that the Patriots have had um and I think both
guys can continue to win. Brady is challenged a little
bit more than I would say Belichick is. And the
reason why Brady has challenges because Brady understands one culture.
He's been in that culture for twenty years. This is
a different culture, a different approach, a different way of

(01:31:36):
going about winning games based upon how Bruce Arians sees
how his team should play. Can Bruce Arians and Tom
Brady find that middle ground that enables Tom Brady to
feel good about how they approach and how they play
games versus a Bruce Arians approach in New England. The
cultures created, the system is created. The players in that

(01:31:58):
locker room, they know they've seen Bill Belichick win without Brady,
even though it's a small sample size. They've seen him
win with Jimmy Garoppolo and Jakobe. Bruce said they've heard
stories about him winning with Matt Castle and being able
to do it. So their belief is in the coach
and in the approach that they have done successfully while
winning Super Bowls as recently as two years ago. So

(01:32:20):
I think they believe that he's going to give them
the best opportunity to win games. Quarterback is different, energy
is different, the office will look different, but I still
believe the results would be the same. Uh. It could
be a win win situation where both guys disappear going
their separate ways and still win and win significantly. We
won't know this until the season is over, at least

(01:32:42):
halfway through the season. Whatever, do you think It was
a good move on Brady's public and may have been
at a stubbornness and he felt that maybe New England
didn't give him the offensive parts for him to win.
He's got the parts. Right now, people are gonna say, hey, Tom,
you had the parts and you still couldn't win. If
Tampa Bay doesn't win. I think it was time for
both of them the part ways. Right. Um, we get
sense that Bill Belichick was ready to have Jimmy Garoppolo

(01:33:05):
pictures newly be the starting quarterback. Um, there was a
power move. Garoppolo has traded. Um. Tom Brady grew tired
seemingly of the Patriot Way in terms of like the
grind that it is because it's so detailed, it's so disciplined. Um,
it demands a lot of you, but the results are outstanding.
And so I think both of those guys just kind

(01:33:26):
of needed a fresh start. Um. Belichick needed a new pupil,
someone to mentor and teach. He gets that in Cam Newton.
And then Tom Brady just needed to be able to
breathe away from the pressurized environment that could exist in
New England. Interesting. I tell you what, this could be
a great storyline right there, and people conn be following
him that all year long. And I tell you the

(01:33:48):
microscope could be on both Belichick and the Patriots, as
well as Brady and Tampa Bay. That maybe the biggest
storyline in the NFL this coming season. Yeah, I mean
it's a huge storyline. It's great. I mean that that's
what it still lead so great. I don't see storylines
like that, you know this especially base but you don't
see any like that in baseball in the NBA a
little bit. You know, when k D left, there was

(01:34:10):
some storylines. They're kind of a negative storyline that he
jumped and you know, he didn't think he could win
in Oklahoma City. So he goes to a team that
basically had one without him and they still won. It's
kind of a semi storyline, but nothing like the NFL.
The NFL has the greatest storylines. I don't know if
it's the sport is planned that way, if it's the
soap operatity, I don't know. I can't figure it out.

(01:34:30):
You're closer to the NFL than anybody I know. Is
that the players, is that the teams just the popularity
of the league. Perhaps, Look, the populated league is just
great like football, like ball is great. It has always
been great. But I think, uh, the NFL has done
a great job of staying in front of mine even
during the pandemic. They found a way to be kind

(01:34:50):
of like the sport that was leading the way. They
continue to have the draft. It didn't really stop anything.
Um yeah, we didn't have a normal off season, but
you know what, when training camp time came, they went
right to camp. Um we didn't get a chance to
see pre season games. So they've been able to tease
us with these little blurs that we've been able to see.
But the regular season is supposed to kickoff September ten.

(01:35:11):
Guess what it's gonna kickoff September ten. So this has
been a way for the NFL to re establish themselves
as the king. And I think everyone's excited about it.
There's no doubt. And it's funny because we hear so
much about the college game to pick ten, will they won't?
They the testing, they're not testing every other day. I
hear schools like Kansas or l s U or Clemson

(01:35:33):
whatever it may be, with COVID situations. I don't hear
that in the NFL. I think it's just great. I
guess these guys know it's their job. Their professionals were
college kids kids from eighteen to two years of age.
I'm gonna go out and party. And I understand that,
I really do. But and since they're not getting paid,
I guess they feel there's really no obligation to them
or to the school. Maybe that's the difference. Yeah, maybe

(01:35:54):
that is a difference. But you know, it's it's it's interesting,
um to do this, right because the college thing, Um,
it's becoming more apparent, like people who talk about the
amateur model, but it's apparent that, uh, college football is
in need of a change, right, it's in needed to
change because we're seeing all these different things. We can't
get on the same accord. We have teams operating or
conferences operating in silos, uh, doing what they want to

(01:36:17):
do to a SEC the SEC day we're going or whatever.
We're not worried about the big tin and the pact
quill and so it just has created a bit of
a divide, whereas in the NFL, everything is going, everyone
is operating under the same premise in protocols, and that's
why it's working. We'll see how college football recovers from this,
if they're able to recover. Yeah, exactly right. He's Bucky Brooks.

(01:36:37):
Get him on Twitter at Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy ferminin
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(01:36:59):
now to the Fox Posts. Everybody outline introduced Adam Kaplan.
Wan to see Adam Bucket Brooks and Andy Ferman. How
are you guys gonna talk to you? Just kind of
tracking all of these trades and releases and and so
forth which we have on the initial cutdown to fifty
three players. Yeah, let's talk a little bit about this
big news today with Texans to Texas SI Deshaun Watson too,
a four year, hundred sixty million dollar extension. I gotta

(01:37:21):
believe Dak Prescott right now, he's chomping at the bit. Yeah,
and this is good because if you're Dak Prescott and
his agent Todd France, you already knew you just had
a negotiation which ended before the franchise deadline of July
fift where they wanted four years, the Cowboys wanted five.
Now you have a guy, uh Deshaun Watson of the
seventeen class, who did it four year deal for your extension,

(01:37:43):
but he did have two years left, So Dak, I
don't think he's going to move off the four years.
That that's just the way it is. And now that
Watson's done four years and by the way, thirty nine
million for the new years, that's the going great right now,
He's not gonna take less and especially if if if
they continue to make the playoffs and he continues to
be durable, there's no reason he would take lesson he
should reach at least forty million man, Adam. That's it's unbelievable, right,

(01:38:08):
It's unbelievable how the Cowboys could have got this done.
I mean a year ago, two years ago at bargain
basement prices. And now we're looking at the prospect of
Dak Prescott getting forty million dollars based on these deals.
But what does it say about the league when you
see Pat Mahomes and Deshaun Watson get their deals and
there at this ridiculous number. Um is the quarterback market

(01:38:32):
Destin where the next guy up a Lamar Jackson, Dak Prescott.
They have to surpass that number. Yes, And by the way,
it's a situation where it'll probably happen once they're allowed,
once they've played three years. And that's the key for
for Lamar. He's got to play at least three years
to get his new deal, and if he continues to
play at that super high level, he's gonna get it.

(01:38:54):
And there's no question about it. It'll be forty million.
And it's funny last year with Jonas. I don't know
if you were on Bucky, but it was probably late
last season as well, before mart for free agency started
and you guys were asking me about what I thought
would happen with Doc. I said not. The problem has
always been this with Jerry Jones. He always waits and
I and I'll be honest with you, I was wrong.

(01:39:15):
I thought they would get a deal done. I didn't
think that he would wait till July fifte Yes, they
had been talking since March, but they didn't make a
lot of movement. They were stubborn with their five years.
They overpaid years ago in fifteen, I was working at
ESPN and I remember doing reporting on Desk's contract, and uh,
they they caved at the last minute, and I brought

(01:39:36):
up but it happened in five with Emmett Smith. They
they caved when remember Emmett was not resigned. He held
out and the Cowboys thought they had leveraged well that
they got off to a bad start and they caved
and and Jerry paid him more than he wanted to.
So you're right to bring that up. We we should.
That's if your Cowboys fan listening, this is what Jerry

(01:39:57):
Jones's biggest problem as you continue used to overpay for
players that he should have gotten done earlier. And that's
why the teams that get these deals done earlier don't
usually pay pay what we would call market value. Exactly right.
He's Adam Calton and Fox Plus Radios NFL Insider. Get
him on Twitter at Kaplan with the c Kaplan NFL. So, Adam,
where does Josh Rosen go now after being released by

(01:40:19):
the Dolphins? Yeah? I know some people were pride. I surprised.
I was not at all, and mean, he was the
third string quarterback. But once you're draft and you're three
years in, you're no longer first round pick. It doesn't matter.
You're just an NFL player. So with Rosen by the way,
he only has has a salary of seven fifty thousand,
So he actually went on waivers today. He could be
claimed tomorrow twelve Eastern twelve pm Eastern UM. Anywhere he

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goes will be the backup quarterback. He will not be
competing for a starting job this season, and it's got
to be on a team that liked him. For the
predraft process and what teams are telling me that they're doing,
just in general, for these players that be claimed off waivers,
they're going back to their notes. If they had the
player in for a pre jeft visit, if they interviewed
him at the combine, if they interviewed him with the
senior bulb bucket. You know this hell goes scouting, you

(01:41:03):
go back on your notes. I remember Andy Read telling
me many years ago that one of the things that
they did with their free agent signings is they went
back to the pre draft process and what was the
interaction with the player. Was it positive or negative? How
did the player act? Was a guy respectful or disrespectful?
How did he treat the security people when he was
in their building. They take that stuff. Seriously, you'd be

(01:41:24):
surprised at how much that stuff matters, So so unbelievable.
It's such it's such a unique time like this is
revealed so many different things. Without preseason games and the
evaluation standpoint, we're seeing trades and like Adam, when when
you've talked to personnel executives that were going through this
process and trying to figure out the best way to
shape their rosters, how difficult do they say it is

(01:41:47):
to evaluate their team without having any hard, concrete games
to really see their young players play. It's hard. And
I noticed I noticed a trend a lot of late
round picks. We're not only let go. Some guys in
the fourth round were drafted last year did not make teams, uh,
simply because they didn't have an off season. One coach

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said to me that he thinks that young players, late
round draft picks who needed snaps in the off season
in preseason, he estimated that. And if you you also
add the first two weeks of training camp when they
were not all they had to walk through is just
practice snaps or game snaps. Over five snaps these young

(01:42:27):
players missed. If you're if you're a coach or a
personnel person who's watching practice date when you see these
guys behind, you shouldn't be surprised because they just didn't
have the off season. So what's gonna happen is these
teams are cutting these players early. They're gonna wind up
missing these players, and these players will become players are
good players with other teams. That plays into your question.

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They're not able to quite evaluate him at the best
of their ability. They and and the coaches, as you know,
have way less patients than the personnel people. The personnel
people want that young players to play, where the coaches
want to self preserve and want to keep their jobs,
so they're gonna have less patients with the the latter
round players and undrafted free agents. That's why, by the way,
you're not seeing a lot of undrafted free agent make teams.

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You're seeing some, but not as many as you normally would.
Adam he lost his starting job to Ryan Tannehill. Now
Marcus Mariota signs with the Raiders, does he have a
shot of challenging Derek Carr for starting spot. You know,
it's interesting you asked me that question because I thought
to start training camp talking to the Raiders that maybe
he would, but as I've talked to them in recent weeks,

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I guess Mariota came is coming back from at least
two surgeries from last season. He had forced injuries over
the last two seasons which were detrimental to his progress.
And not only is Derek Carr perform well, I'm turned
I'm told that Carr had his best camp on John
Gruten of the three years, and Marcus Mariota has not
only did he not challenge him, He's just not ready

(01:43:50):
physically too to be a long term starting quarterback. He's
they also, I'm told, work on his mechanics. His mechanics
got out of whack with the Titans, so it didn't
happen like I thought. It's funny you asked that because
I thought about that a couple of weeks ago. Where
when I first heard he wasn't Mariota wasn't doing as
well as they had hoped. It was fum a physical standpoint,
He's just they need to building back up. But it

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was also partially because car was doing well. But I
would also say this about Derek Carr. He needs to
play at the level that Gruden wants him to. He's
not gotten there yet. The one issue if you're a
Raider fan listening is watch how car gets rid of
the ball too quickly. That's the big knock on him.
From talking to the Raiders. They want him to let
the play developed. Let it go to two point five
or two point seven seconds, not one point three to

(01:44:31):
one point five. That is the biggest issue now with
Derek Carr, you know, and in thinking about Derry Carr,
this division, um looks like he's loaded. There is a
lot of optimism on Drew Lock in the Denver Broncos.
What have you heard? What do you think about his
chances of having a major break doing YouTube? Yeah, and
they were I'll tell you what, they were so happy
with the job. But he's not there now. Rich Gangarrella,

(01:44:52):
who is the O C last season, he was not
retained by Vic Fangi go after one year. Rich is
now a offensive assistant are the Eagles. But I'm told
that he did a good job with Drew Lock. When
Locke took over as the starting quarterback late in the season,
they're happy with him. Um. The issue with mechanics uh
has been described to me as this sometimes falls back

(01:45:12):
on his throws when he doesn't step into it. You
can just stand from the pocket. But he's a decent
enough athlete. He's a hard enough worker, and he's got
a really good arm, and he's got good size. It's
I know it's taken John Elway seemingly forever to figure
out the quarterback position. He's missed on so many of them.
But they're very hopeful that he's gonna be the guy.
And I'll give I want to give credit to lay
on this. Jerry Judy, Kaylee, kJ Hamler, Noah Fant last year,

(01:45:36):
Albert oh who played with Locke in at Missouri, who
Alberto's a as a tight end. I always mess up
his name, he's got a long last name. But Courtland Sutton,
who looks like he's gonna be a star at wide receiver,
was a second rounder in eighteen. They did draft uh
Devin drafted real well in the offensive line. But they
feel a little bit better about it now. This offense

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and don't forget about Melvin Gordon at running back. This
offense has a chance to really off this season. Interesting.
I tell you what, it's always a pleasure getting the
knowledge from you. Adam Kaplan, that's Adam Caplan want to
see Fox Boats Radio's NFL Inside to get him on
Serious x M NFL. Get him on Twitter at Kaplan NFL.
Thank you always for your time and have a great

(01:46:16):
holiday weekend. Thank you, Adam. You two guys, All right,
he's Bucky Brooks on Andy Ferman Infant Jonas knocks way.
Don't you hear what he had to say about his
new coach. That's next for first to the guests, Man
David Gascon with the latest guys, College football Today. Who's
the music? Where's the thing there? Iowa? Minute? It was

(01:46:37):
went to his head. I don't know that happens. I know,
I know, Okay, Iowa, Yep, all good, just doing some
technical stuff. And see that's what Bucky said early on.
You gotta be mentally tough, mentally tough. You gotta get
it to right, Buck, you gotta be mentally you gotta
be ready. You gotta be able to handle all comers
exactly right, fair enough guy. College football Today, s MBU

(01:47:01):
in Texas State tied at fourteen apiece. Two of the
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Nothing in Army did the same in the Middle Tennessee
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on a four year extension with Deshaun Watson worth a
hundred sixty million dollars. Kean All will be the second
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(01:47:22):
a four year extension worth over eighty million dollars. How
about this? In the NBA, Jannison Tenna Coupo Milwaukee Bucks
list as questionable for game number four. He's got an
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Serena Williams beats Lynn Stevens in the third round the
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Washington Nationals son Gerald manager Mike Rizzlo to a three

(01:47:45):
year contract extension. Yankees activated Labor Torres from the dent
ten day injured list. Oakland right now eat one lead
over the San Diego Padres. Guys, back to you. Let's
see a guest man in about an hour. Now, was
this a shot at his former coach? That's coming right up.
He's Bucky Brooks. He's a five time NFL star. On
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(01:48:06):
to you live from the Getico Fox Sports radio studios
and teach you to save fift cent and more on
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nine four seven otto. The only hard part figuring out
which is easier and buck. I am getting tremendous heat
on Twitter. I am getting tremendous heat because we talked
about early on which might be the best sports city
to live in, not best sports teams, the most. I

(01:48:28):
guess diverse sports for your money, and I said, Detroit,
because you have Major League Baseball, you have NFL, you
have NBA, you have n h L, and you have
Big ten football. You have it all. You have New
York City that has no college football whatsoever. They got
Army perhaps an upstate that got Syracuse. That's it. There's
no football, no college football in New York City. So

(01:48:51):
don't sell me on New York City. I thought, Detroit,
Do I really want to live there? Not really? But
if you're asking me, one of the best sports cities,
if not the best in the country, Detroit. And Chicago's
right there too, because you have the big tent with Northwestern.
I mean it's right there. I mean it's right there.
It's right in the mix. I understand where you're coming from.
It's just that many just haven't haven't won it. I

(01:49:12):
mean just I mean, the Lions haven't won. The Pistons
haven't been good exactly. You're right, the one you know,
you're right. I'm with you, holding holding a little bit
that they're only ones. You're right. I mean, I'm with you. Right. Really,
when you think about it, maybe Philadelphia, Boston's right up
there as well. Yeah. So that's why that's why I
opted in the Midwest. That's why I did for Chicago,

(01:49:35):
Chicago over there. I mean, you could you can make
the case Kansas City, you know, because the Chiefs and
the Royals, but no, and no real college football really
in Kansas City? Are you what you don't like KU football?
Not a k You're not a Jayhawking, You're not a
less mile. You have to I love less. I love less,
I tell you what. But I think you have to
think of like living in Kansas City, Missouri or Kansas City, Kansas.

(01:49:56):
That's the case, okay, And that's in Lawrence, that's Lawrence, Kansas.
And I don't know if I killed living Lawrence cans
And we can't we can't talk about the little Apple Manhattan.
That doesn't qualify. Well, maybe it could. You want to
have a life, You want to live in a city
that has a life as well as sports. I mean, really,
you can't even get a slice of pizza over there.
Come on, come on, buck Apple. I mean, all right,

(01:50:19):
we move on. I'll tell you what. Let's talk a
little bit about the NFL, because that's what everybody's talking
about it. It was up on Thursday and we talked
about Rob Gronkowski. First of all, I'll be quite honest
with you. I saw a feature I think it was
on sixty Minutes, maybe about a year ago. Rob Gronkowski
was like playing cards to motivate his mind because it
must have been banged up so many times. I never
thought he'd come back. I never in a million years

(01:50:42):
thought he played professional football again. Now he's Tampa, reuniting
with Tom Brady, and he says the tirades by his
new coach, Bruce arians a quote motivating. So I never
knew what tirade could be motivating. Have you been motivated
by coaches that had tirades? I mean it's I mean,
it's fleeting when you go about it that way, but

(01:51:03):
sometimes you know coaches have to dig into the team
and and and kind of get them going and let
them understand the urgency that they're expecting from the team.
But in general, it doesn't it doesn't really work. Like
you have to save those days because if he does
it all the time, it just kind of becomes white noise,
kind of like Charlie Brown's teacher, like you you have

(01:51:24):
to reserve those those fired up moments for like when
it's really really paramount that you need to get into him. Right.
And the question is, now, were they not motivating in
New England? Was this at the slap a backhand slap
in the face to Bill Belichick? Is that what it was?
I don't think everything to Tom Brady and Rob Gronkowski
says about Tampa is a direct indictment of whatever their

(01:51:45):
experiences were in New England. I think sometimes we read
too much into that. I think they're trying to um
really approach Bruce arians where he is and how he
goes about his business without contrasting his coaching style to
the coaching style of Bill Belichick. You know, it's funny
because I'll ask, as a player, how important is it
for a coach that can motivate because I go back

(01:52:07):
and look at a very very successful coach by the
name of Marv Levy and Buffalo, and to me, he
just looked like your grandfather. He really did. I mean,
the guy next to never raised his voice, a gentleman.
I'm sure you never cust Maybe I'm wrong. I I
don't know. Did you know Marvel at all? I mean
he was there, like I was drafted by Bills and
Marv was there. And I would say he's a very

(01:52:27):
cerebral coach. He was one who um operate in general
and a conversational tone, uh, excellent communicator um. And I
think those things. I think you can appeal to players
intellect and get them to do what you want to do.
But I think the biggest thing that you have to
be able to do is clearly and concisely get your

(01:52:48):
point across. You have to be able to teach whatever
it is that you're teaching from a schematic standpoint, um,
whatever correction that you're making. You have to be able
to communicate. If you're not a great communicator, it is
really really hard to be a great coach. And so
and in spite of all of the entry and fascination
with the inspirational tactics and the motivation. It really comes

(01:53:12):
down to communication. Can you communicate, can you teach? Um?
If you can teach, you have a chance to being
a really really good head coach because they will take
what you say and they put it into practice. I
would say this though, if you have the talent and
you can't communicate, there's still a little bit of chance
of you're winning. No, I don't know, I haven't seen that.
I mean some. But then what happens is for every

(01:53:35):
talented team you will come up with it, you'll come
up against another team that has a coach you really
understands technique and can put you in a bind. And
what coaches or what players look for when they come
to the sideline, UH, in any sport, they're looking for answers,
and so you have to be able to give them answers.
You have to be able to solve the problems and

(01:53:57):
give them the tools so they can succeed. So, even
with talent, the players need the coach to give them
the answers. And the more talented you are, maybe the
fewer answers that you need, but at some point you
have to be able to give them answers to this
so they can succeed and go to the next level.
I hear the term all the time, and I may
sound like a real fool by saying this. I hear

(01:54:17):
the term he's a players coach. What does that mean?
And is that a good thing? I think it's a
great thing. But I think people have misconstrued the term.
People think being a players coach means that you're their friend,
that you're easy on the players, and those things. But
being a players coach and and and my mind is
a guy who's a great communicator, a guy who really

(01:54:38):
cares about you on and off the field. And the
reason the carrying part matters is if I know that
you care about me, then when you come at me
um hard, I know that you're trying to get something
out out of me that you know that I'm capable of,
but I just haven't delivered. But if I don't have
a relationship with you and you're coming at me hard,

(01:54:59):
now I don't know if you really respect me as
a young person. And so it's really important that as
players coaches, you get to know your players beyond what
they can do on the field. So now you can
teach enlighten and inspire them. And so that's what players
coaches do. They have a mutual respect and bond between
them and the players. And it means that I can

(01:55:21):
get after you, but after I get after you, I
still love you because your mind, you're still on my
team and I want the best for you. I just
had to motivate you with a little more volume and
intensity because what you were doing is not up to
the standard that we've established. So now, Bucky Brooks, tell
me the best coaches you've played for and why and
who motivated you the best? Man. I've been fortunate because

(01:55:44):
I feel like I played for a lot of great coaches.
So um, my high school coach Earl Smith should be
in the North Carolina Hall of Fame. My college coach
Mac Brown College Football Hall of Famer. Can you believe
he's still coaching? Absolutely? And we needed him back, and
so I'm excited that he's back. Uh. Marv Levy, Mike Holmgren,
Marty Schottenheimer, Tom Coughlin, and John Gruden were all my

(01:56:06):
pro coaches. Of those pro coaches, the guys that I
probably gravitate towards the most, Marty Schottenheimer and Mike Holmgren.
Micromegrin was attention to detail. He was up tempo, very smart, cerebral.
Uh could appeal to you that way. Marty Schottenheimer was
like playing for a high school coach. It was about
the fundamentals, but he could articulate and communicate as well

(01:56:28):
as anybody that I've ever been around in the coaching game.
And I think that's why it worked for him. In
terms of the best one for me, mac Brown was
the best because he was a people connector. He was
a great coach for players. He cared about the players.
He made it about the players. But he also surrounded
himself with enough tacticians to be able to take that

(01:56:49):
I care about you model and sprinkle it in with
enough X and os and schemes to be able to
win at a high level. I'm so glad you mentioned
mac Brown. I never met mack bound in my life,
but I send them a lot of letters and notes.
All right. He answers me within three days, handwritten all
the time, and I could tell the personality of an
individual that does that. You know, some people you do

(01:57:10):
something you do my favorite, they just ignore you. But
he does that. And and I've saved every one of
his notes and I have I love the man really
and and this great height. No, I'll tell you this
great high school football in and around where I live,
like Molar High School in Cincinnati, Saint Savior High School
and elder. I send him all that stuff, all that
stuff to North Carolina and within days he's thanking, man,

(01:57:32):
I love the man, I really do. So that's very
very genuine. It's funny that you bring up the point
that he always writes your handwritten note. Going way back
to when I was recruited. Uh, this is the late eighties,
so eighty nine. I was in his class. We play
a game on Friday nights. Every Tuesday or Wednesday, because
you gotta go yesteryear in the newspaper. He would have

(01:57:53):
someone in the office clip out like what your accolades
were for the week. He would send it to you
in kay uh North Carolina, kind of like a thank
you card or whatever, with a handwritten note, um, congratulating
you on the effort. And he did that each and
every week. He's a big believer that handwritten notes leaves

(01:58:13):
an indelible impression. And so when you say that, I
was like, oh, yeah, that's a coach brown Thing. I
love him, I really do. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy
Ferman Get him on Twitter at Bucky Brooks at Andy
firm An FSR. I'm in for Jonas Knocks. But I'll
tell you what. This is gonna be great because there's
no doubt he's the best. So we're gonna prove it.
Bucky's Best is next. Bucky's Best coming right up about
ten minutes before the top of the hour. We call

(01:58:35):
this Fox Sports Saturday on Fox Sports Radio. He isn't
fat Bucky Brooks from the NFL. I'm Andy Ferminant for
Jonas Knocks and Buck. I tell you what, We're putting
you on the pedestal because you are the man of
the NFL, you know all. So we're going to do.
We're gonna have this little segment called Bucky's Best, and
we're gonna throw with you various questions. You're gonna give
us maybe the top five, top ten, whatever you want

(01:58:55):
in any certain order, various positions in the NFL, and
just tell us, why are you ready? Are you ready? Buck? All?
Here we go. You're in the hot seat. Okay, let's go.
Buck ET's Best. The best quarterbacks in the NFL and
the season of go ahead, Buck, this is this is horrid,
but I mean it's not really that hard. Here we go,
let's go my homes, Russell Wilson, Deshaun Watson, Lamar Jackson,

(01:59:19):
and now I just need to leave a spot open
for Cayler Murray. I know that Aaron Rodgers people gonna
come at me, but Calin Murray I think has an
opportunity to be special. So that's my top five. And
you don't have Dak Prescott in a tough five, alright,
any reason why. I don't know if they're gonna he's
gonna put up enough numbers. They're so balanced on offense
that I don't know. It's not an indictment on him.
But man, who were gonna take out? Take out Wilson, Watson, Jackson.

(01:59:43):
You're exactly right, and it's definitely the changing of the
guard because you don't know Aaron Rodgers a tough five.
You don't have Drew Brees in a tough five. You
don't have Matt Ryan. That's questionable, but you don't have
him in the top five either. It's not well, Brady,
it's not a Lifetime Achievement Award. We're not giving him
for what they've done over twenty years. Notice, right, yeah, no,
you're right that that's where the league is at. Right now.

(02:00:03):
Good call. I'll tell you what if you want to
take those players and give us a number one, as
someone would ask me, which you know doesn't really mean anything.
No one's gonna ask me, I would say, Lamar Jackson's
number one. I mean he's the m v P. I
can't say that he's number one, though, like I would
put him. Do you take Mahomes, I take Mahomes and

(02:00:23):
Wilson before him? And then the debate is which style
quarterback do you want? Do you want Watson? Do you
want Jackson? Here we go, all right, but let's go
with the Let's go with the running backs. Running backs?
How about we go Christie McCaffrey, Ezekiel Elliott. Yeah, let's
throw se Kwon Barkley up there. Yeah, I got a
surprise for you. Let's go with Joe Mixon. Really yeah,

(02:00:47):
Joe Mason is really good. And then Dalvin Cook also
rounds it out. Alvin Camaro is not there, Derrick Henry
is not there. Alvin Camarry the injuries last year, so
it's hard for me to know what exactly I'm getting.
He is worthy because look, man, what he's done the
first three years of his career is outstanding. The thing is,
I would say, say, Kwan Joe Mixindo's got man. Those
guys are big body, big body runners. They can run,

(02:01:08):
they can catch the other backfield. Hard does this miss him?
There you go. And Christian McCaffrey basically, he does it all.
He does it all like he has to get the
knod because when you're into one thousand, one thousand and
the one thousand, one hundred club, me a thousand Russian
thousand rest even a thousand Russian one hundred catches, man,
it's hard to find people that can do that, even
though Alvin Kamar his numbers are right up there with him.

(02:01:32):
There you go, All right, let's kind of let's just
do wide receive. We do the skill set here, but
Bucky Brooks, give me some wide receivers here, Okay, here
we go. Let's go Julio Jones, Michael Thomas, DeAndre Hopkins.
I'm gonna make some people mad, but I'm fine. Here
we go. Let's go Michael Evans, Mike Evans from Tampa.
And then we're going to finish this thing off with

(02:01:52):
Keenan Allen from your LH Chargers. Really with not Tyreek
Hill huh nah. I think these other guys are a
little more skilled when it comes to being polished. Tyreek
Kill is explosive, dynamite playmaker, but in terms of skill,
I don't know. If he's a skill I would I
would kind of put Tyreek Kiel in the Russell Westbrook category.
He gets buckets. Is not always textbook, but he gets buckets.

(02:02:16):
What about Davante Adams. Davante Adams I like, but Davante
Adams even have a thousand yards last year. I'm not
saying this stats or everything. I know. Injuries played a
part in it. Great route runner, But once again I
asked you, who are we taking out? I know? And uh,
let let me give you two more. Maybe a Mari
Cooper and beam that's tough. I like, go to Beckham Jr.

(02:02:37):
The injuries and limited barely got over a thousand and
I'm Marie Cooper has to share what better in big games? Alright,
there we go, thank you. That's he's best. But some
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We're coming down the home stretch. I loved every minute
of it. I love you to death. I think this
is a lot of fun. I hope you could do
it again some time. But I got some bad news
out of the University of Utah. This is unreal. The

(02:03:18):
pandemic has struck and struck hard. According to reports that
I've just read, the University of Utah's entire athletic department
is on furlough. And I'm talking about football coach, basketball coach,
athletic director all on furlough. That's not good. And they
think they think they're gonna lose close to fifty to
sixty million dollars in revenue. That's amazing. It is amazing

(02:03:38):
without football. Like a lot of the college athletic departments
are crumbling because it's the big revenue generator when you
think about uh, the TV deals, UH, the gate uh,
the amount of people that come to watch and everything
that happens around football games that support the university and
the town. It's been crippling. The pandemic has um really
had severe economic questions. And so for Utah, the a D,

(02:04:01):
the coaches um having to take furlough days or extended furloughs. Yeah,
that's that's rough. But hopefully, hopefully they'll be able to
keep their jobs. I think everyone can understand a furlough.
It's one thing to lose a job. Though you're exactly right,
I can't wait for I really can't. And that's true.
I mean, at least the Kentucky Derby, which is beginning

(02:04:22):
to run right now. At least it's not May at September,
so we've got four months left and it's almost Christmas,
but close to the Christmas than May, which is wonderful,
it really is. And you talk about money for a second,
let's talk about this to Shaun Watson deal hundreds sixty
million dollars for four years, is quarterback of the Houston Texans.
The question I have for you, and I think I
could feel comfortable asking you this. Is there any animosity

(02:04:43):
or jealousy that you are not in the NFL and
you're not making that kind of money now, I mean,
that's such a long time ago. I mean, I think
it's great for the players that the money is continued
to pop, and it's gonna pop again. I know everyone
is worried about the pandemic, but the TV deals are
coming up, and so when the new TV money hits UH,
you can see these UH salaries escalated skyrocket again. I

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think the thing that we're seeing it used to be
like the quarterback and the quarterback money. I mean, the
quarterback money is answering towards the forty million dollar mark.
But now you're seeing quarterback cornerbacks get paid. To Davious
White sound a deal today they put him at seventeen
million UH per. We're seeing these wide receivers Keenan Allen
has a deal that puts them at twenty million per
And so the money, the money is there. And despite

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what people tell you that they can't pay certain players
and those things, you can pay good players. The good
players will always get paid. Now you're trying and worry
how they're going to deal with the rest of the roster.
Will it just be uh the haves and the have nots,
meaning the big money players and a bunch of guys
on minimum wage or were they the good teams trying
to find a way to balance it out a little better. Yeah,
And the funny thing that I said about two or

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three years ago, the big story was also the concussions.
And you know, parents took the side, and my kids
play football on the high school level college because let
me tell you, as long as this kind of money
is being dealt, they're gonna play football. That's the key.
But anything, I mean, you know what if it was
me back in high school, now I play football, I
mean absolutely, Like I mean, it depends like people will

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focus on those things. And look, there's risk associated with
the game, absolutely, and what you want to do is
you want to make sure that your kids and everyone
that is participating is really doing it in an environment
that really tries to protect them as much as you can.
But uh, there's still something to like being able to
participate in the sport that if you get to the
highest level you talk about, I mean life changing money,

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generational wealth that these guys are beginning to tap into.
And so yeah, significant and because of that, you're going
to continue to see people participate in the sport. Right
And when you played in the National Football, like I
don't want to get to personally know how much money
you made, but obviously you made more, not a lot.
Not like note of these guys the hangers on. Did
you have a bunch of hangers on them? No? I mean, look,

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I think with everything, like what happens is when you
play in the National Football they give everybody's excited, right, Um,
your your family, your friends, people around you, your boys,
like they're always people will around and also as a
year old, you want everyone to celebrating your successes. Um.
I think now with the money being what it is, yeah,
you have more people that are hanging around you. And

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the toughest thing for most athletes in any sport to
have to deal with once you begin to start making
big money, it's saying no, it's hard because there's a
little bit of the guilt of your success. And so
if you make it and you're not as as giving
or you're not as sharing, then you get the deal like, hey,
we were there with you when you were just coming up.

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Now you're too good for us, and so guys have
to deal with all of those things. And um, I
think though we were at the time where we're seeing
a lot of um young athletes find inspiration from other
athletes who have been able to take their success and
and and the money that they made on the field
and really do big things. Lebron James, Kevin Dormant, I mean,

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the guys like Derek Connard who have been major real
estate players. I think you're seeing uh different players in
in the league understanding that football is a business, but
it's also an opportunity for them and get a head
start on what they want to do after it's done.
And that's why we're seeing these guys really make savvy
and smart decisions as they expand their quote unquote personal brands.

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You know. But when I see stories that say players
that retire several years after their retirement they go broke.
I mean, have you seen that as well? They just
don't know how to handle them money, or there's too
many outsiders asking for their money, or they just just
go wild with their money. Well it's tough, right because
everyone assumes that everyone that is playing in the league
they're millionaires, and that's not necessarily the case, and so um,

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I was talking to somebody today just to explain it
to you. So, Andy, when you're playing in the league,
and let's just say that, um, we're just kinda put
you at a guy that's a minimum players. So you
make six let's just say six thou dollars being loose.
So then let's let's tax that and let's say according
to California standards. So let's just take half of that away.
So now we put you about three three dollars, right,

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So when you get paid, you get paid during the season.
So if you take that three fifty and divided by seventeen,
that is what the check looks like. Okay, but you
only get that check from September to December, and so January, February, March, April, May, June, July, August,

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you don't get another paycheck till September. So part of
what impacts guys is that time in between your last
paycheck of the regular season and the first paycheck of
the uh next regular season. How have you been balanced
your money that you made during the season to give
yourself an opportunity to sustain the lifestyle that you're living.

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Put money away for the future and still be okay
if you're to get cut and you don't get a
chance to get that next check the following year. So
when you hear those numbers, part of that is because
guys are stressed or they just haven't properly allocated their
money to put themselves in a position to live and sustain.

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And so when you think about the houses and the
cars and all the other stuff that comes along with
like what people elected do, it takes a tremendous amount
of discipline to be able to make the level of
money that you're making and make it stretch for a
lifetime as opposed to the hearing now. And of course
some bad investments as well, But that's only about twenty
grand pre paycheck for seventeen weeks a little yeah, So

(02:10:31):
I mean that's that's what you're dealing with. And so
then here's the other thing, because you talk about bad investments, Andy,
if you're a person who um knowing in your family
has touched this kind of money, who do you turn
to for advice on how to manage money? Because when
you go to the bank or you go to one
of the high um the high end private uh wealth

(02:10:53):
management firms. Can you speak the same language. Do you
understand what the mutual fund is? Do you understand annuities?
The stock market? What do I put away? What about
my insurance? My disability insurance and those things? Do I
have the bandwidth to really understand what these guys are
presenting to me? And if I don't, am I humble
enough to have people around me and say, hey, I

(02:11:13):
really don't know this. Well until I know this, what
should I do? Should I just put the money in
uh A savings account until I have enough confidence to
know what I'm doing? And go back to when you're four,
what was your mentality like when it came to money management?
You know? Right? And so what typically has to happen

(02:11:35):
for guys to really make it. You have to play
long enough to get to your second deal, because typically
what coincides with you signing your second deal there's a
level of maturity that after you've made the mistakes and
burned through some cash and then you're like, Okay, WHOA,
I can see the light at the end of the tunnel.
I need to make sure that I'm socking away. But
most guys never get to the second deal. And that's

(02:11:56):
why you hear the statistics like they are interesting. The
one forty six running of the Kentucky Derby is now official.
Solift check in with our own guess man David Gascon
with the official result. Man Bob Bafford had another horse
win today, authentic at eight to one odds. Is your
winner tis the Law which is at three to five
and the odds unfavored to when it came in second

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place and then rounding at the top three Mr Big News,
who was a long shot of forty six to one
finish in third authentic eight to one. Shut Uh. That
Bob Baffort is amazing, isn't he. He's amazing six Kentucky
Derby win for him and his horse. I mean how
many how many horses does he have in the race?
I mean you have all the horses as you win, right,

(02:12:40):
it doesn't age TUSDA had one, the Belmont, TuS the
Low one Big and the Travers Stakes and basically I
thought Tuesday Law excuse the expression was heading shoulders above
everybody else in the field, but came up short today. Interesting. Amazing, Well,
thank you that update, Thank you so much, and let
us know what the payout was. Okay, when that comes up.

(02:13:00):
All right, all right, thanks a lot. I want to
go go back back to this situation here we talk
about athletes and what they've done and the money they're
making and things like that. I'm gonna go back to
like uh, talk show host Laura Ingram way back when
on our national radio show months ago, and no one's
talking about this right now. They kind of put their
head in the sand. She said to Lebron James, youre
shut up and dribble to me? Where is she now? Now?

(02:13:22):
What does she think of the NBA boycotting and to
spending several playoff games last week? But more than that,
I wonder what fans think about that because I think,
you know, I respect the players for doing that. They
have every right to do that, But is it good
for business? That's the thing, because I think when you
do things like that, there's gonna be a line during
the sand, and there's gonna be some people saying, I
don't want to watch sports if they're gonna do political statements.

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But you know what why is? Why is up America?
It's been that way for years. You watch baseball games
and they have baseball players with pink bats for for cancer.
You know for finding cancer for women. I mean really
so it's it's been all old. I mean they have
the thinks all the time. And why people get their
shorts all in a bunch when a Lebron James takes

(02:14:06):
a stand and he has a great platform to do so,
I didn't understand why they get so upset. I'll never
watch the game again. I'll never go to a game. Man. Oh,
you probably never went anyway. Yeah, I mean there's some
of that, and I think, what is what is happening? UM?
And has been a lot of this, and there's been
a lot of this from the community when you've seen
athletes like speak up for so long, UM athletes have

(02:14:29):
felt the sense that A they're only viewed as as
entertainers and that we on the outside don't really respect
them for anything that they do beyond that, despite them
always hearing a you should be a role model, you
should do this. We really hold our athletes to an
exacting standard when it comes to what we expect from them,
how they act on the field, how they act off

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the field, what they get into where they're involved in.
And so, now, what has happened because we've always celebrate,
always celebrate it like the charity and what eyes are
getting into. Like you talked about breast cancer, we talked
about some of the other things, whether it's boys and
girls clubs or UM, other issues that are near, other

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issues and causes that are near and dear to your heart. Well,
now you're seeing things that have come up where you
have these social justice initiatives, UM, people are speaking out there.
They're talking about UM, policious use and and those things
things that really happen in their community. And so it's
very very uncomfortable. And I'll and I'll say this and

(02:15:30):
I'll share because I never really shared these stories. But
like a lot of the things that players are talking about, fame,
wealth doesn't protect you from those things. Andy, Um, I've
been in my neighborhood here in California. I've gone on
jobs at five thirty six am in the morning, and
I've had a neighbor roll up on me and asked

(02:15:50):
me if I live in the neighborhood, even though I've
been there forever, and I've had and I've had to,
I guess, identify myself and justify why I'm out and
why even though I'm in front of my house. I
have had um cops. When I've had a luxury vehicle,
I've had cops tell me and follow me to my
house and ask um things about like what are you doing,

(02:16:15):
where you're going, where are you from? All of those things,
I've been stopped, I've been looked at or whatever. And
so when these athletes are talking about that, when you
don't have the jersey on, you still have to deal
and exist. And what they're trying to do is shed
light on the fact that, hey, the jerseys don't protect me,
but it also doesn't protect the community that I come from.

(02:16:37):
So let's understand and have a level of empathy and
humanity when it comes to these people when they're speaking
up in the like, let me share a story with you.
And I hate to be a name job, but I'm
friends with Oscar Robertson. We've got to a downtown Cincineti
cigar shop every now and again and we share a
cigar and he's tells stories all the time. I love
listening to the big Oh. He said when he played
for the Milwaukee Bucks. Living in Milwaukee, he drove with
Mercedes and he was stopped by a cop. I want

(02:16:58):
to know guy, to know I'm me, how do you
not know Oscar Robertson? But this schmuck didn't know who
the big all was and he says, who are you?
And where do you get this vehicle? I mean, it's
it's amazing. Really, because of your skin color, you stopped.
How stupid, how moronic, how disgusting, How disgusting is that?
Think about that? Because your skin color is gonna make
you stop? I mean, really, it's just it's borish. I mean,

(02:17:20):
I don't know what else I could say. I don't
know what else to say. You're gonna be stopping use
to the color of your skin. It's gotta stop. It's
gotta And I love people like Lebron taking a stand
and doing something about it. But the point is this,
I'm gonna take a quarter out of Marvin Lewis, who
used to coach of sit Santi Bengals. I see better
than I hear. They made the noise. They did all
the stuff, the marching and the protesting. They made the noise. Okay,

(02:17:42):
I'm not for bombing stores and breaking at the stores,
protesting on a normal peaceful basis, yes I am, but
not breaking down Miracle Mile in Chicago. But I see
better than I hear. Now, let's see what's gonna happen next,
and things have to change because we made the noise,
they got the visibility, they got it on the fourth
the the NBA bubble that got him on their shirts.

(02:18:02):
I want to see something happen now. And just the
other day I heard this on CNN there was a
cop in Rochester, New York, put a spit shield on
a guy and suffocated him and killed him. African American guy.
It's got to stop, it, really does, I mean, come on, please, Yeah,
but it's a look, it's a very complex and complicated issue,
and some of the issues when it comes to um,
the black community and the cops, like you have to

(02:18:24):
go all the way back, I mean, like all the
way back even before the civil rights thing, because um,
it's complex and complicated. Like whenever, um, we've had those
protests or sit ins, like the cops have been the
ones who have been forced to enact the law and
justice in those things. And so when you talk about
some of the distrust or whatever, it stems back from

(02:18:47):
the stories that have been passed down from me, grandma
and uh, your parents and those things. So that's why
there's just inherent just kind of rubb and divide in
the community and the trust lack of trust. Yeah, and
and look it it's changed, right, you know, because I
grew up in a time where, um, the cops were
the guys that also coached your baseball team and your
basketball team. And you're really in the community, you know

(02:19:09):
what I'm saying, Like it was community service. Everyone was there.
And so you knew Little Johnny, you knew Mr Johnson,
you had a relationship that extended beyond. Mr Johnson would
see you out and talk to you, said, hey, you
need to get out of here. You know better. And
so really it comes down to communication humanity, like humanity
being able to have real, honest communication, being able to

(02:19:32):
have compassion enough to talk real talk with people, and
to be able to do some of the things that
we expect our role models and those things to do.
You know, you're exactly ready. Bucky Brooks well said, here's
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(02:19:52):
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I mean, do you like the protest? You and I'd
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(02:20:59):
bit of an upset it because everybody had their money
on the three to five shot, but it didn't work
didn't work out, and that's the way it is. Tis
the Law came in second with the three to five shot.
As we roll along right now, he's Bucky Brooks on
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an FSR and uh looking at the scoreboard, it looks

(02:21:19):
like Toronto is up by about five or six of
the Boston Celtics in my last peak. And we're talking
about playoff games right now. And really, when you're talking
about the playoffs right now, in the bubble this year
in the NBA, everything is even. I mean, honestly, I
would have to think that the best team will actually
win this year. Why do I say that. There's no
home court advantage and there's no crying or whining about

(02:21:39):
travel arrangements. Everything is in the bubble, and that's basically
it go ahead and made the best man win. I
think that's how it's going to work. Um, it's gonna
be the best team and because of the seven game series,
you're gonna see the team's ride. You don't have home court, Um,
you're gonna have to be at your best. And I
think this is a very very unique thing. And I
think the other thing that is coming into playing we

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saw this kind of play out, Um, the grind of
being in the bubble, the discipline that it takes to
be there, to be away from your family to just
play games and be back in the room, um, to
play games and do little things around the resort. But
you don't have your normal existence. Who has the mental

(02:22:21):
stamina to be able to endure those conditions. Because we're
on the outside, I can talk about like, I don't
understand what's the talk they're making millions of dollars you're
doing this or whatever. But it is different, Um, you know,
it's almost like being in a solitary confinement. And I
want to expand on that with you big time at
the other the other side of the bottom of the hour.
But but there's a lot to talk about that because

(02:22:41):
I think that it's something we've never seen before and
we wanted to see it again. But Mike is on
the phone, Mike's and Charlotte wants to talk to Brooks
and Andy Fermina Fox Sports Saturday. Hello, Michael, how are you.
I'm so good. Thanks for thanks for having my call.
I appreciate it. Who's on your mind? Yeah, So, I
was just trying to speak on this social injustice thing,
just just for a little bit. I'm a former police

(02:23:03):
officer and corrections officer, so I kind of have a
unique perspective of doing criminals in both ways. But obviously
not all cops are perfect, and obviously I'm a little
biased because I used to be one. However, some of
the individuals that the cops are having to use deadly
force on they are on drugs, they're on alcohol, they

(02:23:26):
are they have mental health issues, and they are offer
their medication, and if they're offer their medication, maybe they
have alcohol in place, so it's it's putting the officers.
Then maybe cops shouldn't be dealing with them. Maybe special
people from health, the pomber should be dealing with them,
not cops. That's the key. Yeah, that's true. But initially,

(02:23:46):
any time someone has to go deal with them, initially
there's a chance that person could be armed, So the
officers always have to clear the scene first and secure
the scene like that. That's how we did it. When
anytime someone had a medical issue, cops always had to
go in and uh make sure that we're in no weapon,
so that way that person could be treated. Look, I
appreciate your respect, and I appreciate where you're going from.

(02:24:08):
But when a guy gets shot seven times in the back,
I I can't. I can't defend anything on that. I
can't seven times in the and I would like to
ask him is he still on the line, because I
just would Yeah, yeah, I would just like to ask. Okay,
so I'm a I'm a high school coach. If if
I was to advise a group of fourteen to eighteen
year olds, if they get stopped by the cops, like,
what is the best way for them to have those

(02:24:29):
interactions where everyone feels like they're respected but they're also safe.
Good question. Yeah, yeah, that's that's a great question. It's
it's just yes, sir, no, sir, Yes, ma'am, no, ma'am.
Look look them in the I be honest because the
jail that I worked in was actually a jail for adolescents.
I I oversaw kids from thirteen to eighteen that had

(02:24:50):
been accused of very serious crimes waiting waiting to go
to court. So so it's it's it's respect, regardless of
race or anything. That it's it's all respect. Look look
at the officers in the eye, doing exactly what they say.
But unfortunately, a lot of these kids these days that um,
the some kids that do deal with the officers that

(02:25:13):
they didn't grow up in a very very good home.
A lot of their parents are either drug addicts or
deceased or so it's a very difficult situation where these
kids have been raised by grandma or grandpa or for
a step or whoever, and it's it's a very difficult,
difficult area. So well, I think there's has to be

(02:25:35):
a better training. I agree with you, Mike. Mike, you're
doing a heck of a job. I appreciate, appreciate your service.
But it's got to be better. There's no doubt about that.
It's gonna be better. He's Bucky Brooks am Andy from
and if a join us knocks and playing here, it's
just like being in jail. We'll explain that next, but
first the guests made himself David Gascon with the Latest
Guys will round things up with the Kentucky Derby on

(02:25:58):
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Here's the buyer of chick. That's one Chucky derby John

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alast Kis. That's it without Dick Chan the lot for Chicken.
And then it's Mr Big News Honor eight p ends
up fourth. Two minutes point six one seconds was the
final time for authentic effort has done it for the
sixth times. Bad at all NBA Today, Toronto and Boston

(02:26:38):
going at it. Celtics down by three forty seven, game
number four of their best of seventh series. Celtics up
in that thing two games to one. College football see
Marshall of victim today along with Army smu one over
Texas State Ball game is now heading into the fourth quarter.
Houston Texans a four year extension with DeShawn Watson worth

(02:26:59):
a hundred and six million dollars a hundred eleven million
dollars in guarantees. Keendan Allen gets one with the light
Chargers four years and over eighty million dollars heading his way,
and there are reports that Jadeveon clowne is gonna sound
with the Tennessee Titans. Doesn't look like the stints are
in it anymore. Fellas, back to you, thank you so much,
and have a great weekend, a great holiday because we
did wonderful work with you this afternoon. Mr Gascon, thank you. Well,

(02:27:23):
that's the end of that. You'll never see this again, okay,
I mean I don't expect that. It's okay, you'll never
see this again. We'll get to that in a minute.
He's Bucky Brooks, I Mandi Fermant and we are coming
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(02:27:45):
at so many scores today, and I look at that
Marshall score over East to Kentucky. Marshall wins fifty nine zip.
And you play for North Carolina. Now, when you see
a jersey of a school that may not be a
big time player, is there a letdown that the guys
in the locker room like laugh and say this should

(02:28:06):
be a rollover. I mean, Marshall's not your power, but
certainly a better team I would think topped the bottom
than e Ku. That's the problem. I mean that that
that that is that is the problem. I mean I
think I think early on, you're trying to be at
your best and it takes a mature team to be
able to go out and take care of business. And
what you're trying to do, if you're coaching the favorite

(02:28:26):
team is you're trying to say, let's make sure that
we play up to the standard, and it doesn't matter
who's on the other side. Let's make sure our execution,
our energy and all of those things are right and
and that's all that you can do. But if you're
the underdog man, you're trying to really take advantage of
this situation because it has been an unusual circumstance. Everyone

(02:28:46):
hasn't had the level of conditioning, the strength or whatever.
Maybe we can catch them by surprise, Maybe we can
do something different, up to tempo, go faster, do do
something to catch them off guard, and maybe we can
use those things to our advantage. It amazes me that
some of these schools play and really you can get
hurt by by a major school playing a lesser school,

(02:29:08):
but they do it for the money because those guaranteed checks.
Just the way it was. I mean, I look you
at your album out of North Carolina this year scheduled
to play I believe on the nineteenth of September James Madison.
James Madison probably does not have the athletes that North
Carolina has. They don't, but they're a good squad because
they played at a high level at the division. And

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so it's a scary game for North Carolina because it's
the unknown. You don't know what you're facing. You really
don't know the level of conditioning that your team is in,
the level of execution, and the first game is always
one man. Sometimes you're just trying to get through until
you can figure out who you are and what you're
about as a team. Well, I'm hoping that they play
because we know what could happen with testing and COVID

(02:29:50):
nineteen and and the pandemic. It's it's the unknown, and
that's the scary thing of it. But we talked about
the NBA and they seem to have gotten it right.
With the bubble. I thought it was a super idea.
They don't think they're gonna know credit. Maybe Basebulston that
went in that direction as well, because he's so early
on with the Miami Marlins and the St. Louis Cardinals
missing so many games and and these seven inning double
headers are a joke. That's just it doesn't make any
sense to me. But it's cost a lot of money,

(02:30:12):
but it saved the league seasons. I'll tell you this much.
I don't think we'll ever see it again. And you
hit on it early on today. I don't think players
going to be three months in the lock up. I
think it's like jail. Would you want to do it?
I wouldn't want to do it. And people are gonna say,
like you said, you've got the luxuries of home. Yeah,
you've got the meals, you got your room, you got everything.
Now you don't want to be confined to a room
maybe four by four and that's it. All you gotta

(02:30:34):
do is play basketball and you can't see a family. Yeah,
not it. It's tough. And so that's the grind of it, right,
The grind of it is can you stay locked in?
Can you stay focused on the task at hand when
you're really desperately want to see your family. Now they've
penetrated the bubble because they've allowed family and stuff to
come in. But prior to last Monday, they hadn't seen
their family for two months. And if you have small

(02:30:55):
kids or whatever like that is tough. Man. You haven't
seen your babies like you can FaceTime and whatever, but
there's nothing like that. And I think what you will
see as a little settling in because they do have
their loved ones around them, but still the routine is off.
You play for the Lakers out here, man, you play
the game and staples you finished the game, and you
may go somewhere and have a nice meal to decompress.

(02:31:17):
You're not in the room. You get away, you go eat.
You got to Mastros, uh firm And you don't know,
but Dave Gascon has taken me and Jonas to Mastros
at the end of at the end of the year
because we have a little back going on. But if
you play the Lakes, you got to Mastros, you get
a nice meal, you decompress or whatever. Now in the bubble,
you don't have those same things, and so it just

(02:31:37):
kind of takes you. It takes you out of your rhythm.
It takes you out of your normal routine and structure
and existence. But God forbid that if this pandemic is
still around next year. I don't think the NBA Players
Association are gonna vote on playing in a bubble again.
I don't think they're gonna do it. Oh. I think
they have to man the money. Money. You gotta get

(02:31:58):
the money, you know, And I don't know if the
NBA wants to pay that kind of money. Did they
say it was something like a hundred and fifty million
dollars to get this done, this whole project, And I
can't believe they did it for the w n b
A as well, which is funded basically by the NBA. Yeah,
I mean it it is. But I mean, look, man,
you take one, you take them all. And so that's

(02:32:19):
that's that's that's the part, that's part of doing business.
And they were able to look, they were able to
stop some of the hemorrhaging because when the league stop,
you just think about the millions and millions of dollars
in revenue that they were losing if they didn't finish
this out. So by finishing this out, they'll be able
to re readjust and do those things. But they had
to play this out, and they're gonna have to play
next season as well. Yeah, it amazes me that that

(02:32:41):
no one Well maybe they did bust out of the
bubble and they weren't caught, because I remember the story
that happened several weeks ago at the guy on the
Seattle Seahawks had his girlfriend allegedly dress up as a
player and what was It's kind of creative, I mean really,
but do you need to have a woman's company that badly?
I mean, really, come on, I'm saying now you can

(02:33:06):
say it's a it's a long time. I understand that,
but still, and he was a rookie, wasn't he a rookie?
Jeopardizes his career? I mean, come on, a clown, he's not.
He's not a boxer, you know, boxers and stuff that
may like you go without it. You know, he may
have been better off having her not dress up in

(02:33:26):
the unit and she could have dressed up maybe in
a nurses uniform, saying she's a nurse for COVID. You know,
we got this last minute one, a m COVID test
that my guy has to have. So I need to
let me in and make sure I gotta see his nostrils.
I got them right. It amazes me. But you know,
it's creative and they try. But I honestly thought some

(02:33:48):
of those guys in the NBA would do. But Lebron
at least has been honest. He said that he felt
that many a time that he wanted to leave the bubble.
And I get it. I mean, he's got kids, he's
got his wife. It's rough. I mean, you know, you
turn the tubon, you watch a basketball game, and that's
like two hours. You know, there's twenty two other hours
in the day, and it's kind of rough when you're
by yourself. And then it's kind of funny because then

(02:34:10):
you go down to the lobby lobby of those hotels
and Disney World over there, and you see the guys
you played against, they're all in the same place. It's nuts,
I know, it's nuts. Crazy. Well, I mean, and they
got their own barber, the officials are there, they got
the food coming in and you know, and I'm sure
there's many people banging on their steering wheel in their

(02:34:31):
cars right now as they're listening. What do you know,
firm and they got it made the make millions of
oh come on get a life, please. You know you
would do it, I mean, these people, but just you
can't win, you know that, And you just can't win
the dangers of social media. That's basically what it's all about.
Social media. I mean, it's the best of both worlds
and the worst of all world social media. It really is.

(02:34:54):
I mean yeah, And then I read about Dak Prescott.
He says that the anthem I mean this to me
is a joke. Sometimes you're better off just keeping quiet.
I know people say that to me all the time too.
But quarterback that Prescott says the anthem protests should be
individual's decisions. They can't be They can't be individual decisions
because if you're on a team, there's a lot of
peer pressure. And if everybody decides to kneel, or everybody

(02:35:16):
decides to do this, or we're a certain shirt, you
gotta go with the crowd. You know that, I know that,
everybody you know. Like I'll be honest, I don't know
if it necessarily has to be my mentality, right, Like,
I think if if you have like a legitimate team
where it's really opening on his dialogue, I think you
can be supportive without necessarily having the same opinion, Like
it's just a matter of respect, And I think that

(02:35:38):
is the bigger thing, Like going all the way back
to the Drew Brees killed stuff or whatever, but the
only reason he really got killed was not his opinion.
Just like being able to be respectful, like you can
say those things or whatever, but also say like, hey,
I respect what others in this locker room are going through.
So I'm not going to judge them on how they
choose to handle the anthem. But for me, here's what

(02:35:59):
I've been even and this is why I'm standing. People
can understand that because we've seen that happen in the bubble.
Now Papa stood, Like everyone doesn't have to take a
knee during the anthem and do all those things. I
think what people want is, hey, be respectful of others opinions.
And that really was the crux of the entire issue.
Be respectful, Like whatever it is you think, whatever the

(02:36:21):
world has done to impact you that you feel so
compelled to do this during the athem, Fine, that's how
you feel, but I feel I may feel differently. So
I'm I'm gonna stand and I'm standing attention or whatever,
Like it's all of that it really comes down to
respecting communication. Would it be fair to say a call
Drew Brees a hypocrite because he basically felt at the
time that it was disrespectful to to kneel in front

(02:36:44):
of the flag for whatever the reason that he had,
I mean nationalism, patriotism, whatever it may be. And then
he was told what it stood for, just to make
a mention, just to do and and and within twenty
four hours he turned around and apologized he had tears
in his eyes. I wonder I wouldn't. I wouldn't I
wouldn't call it. I wouldn't call him a hypocrite. I
think I think you learned through experience and exposure and

(02:37:06):
and maybe in Drew Brees his life, like he hadn't
been exposed to people who felt like that, you know
what I'm saying, Like he hadn't been exposed to that
because he talked about his grandfather and the military connection
or whatever. And he may have been unaware of some
of his teammates who may have had parents or grandparents
who had military ties, and they didn't see the same
thing for them. And so I think looked with conversations

(02:37:29):
um empathy and a willing ear yeah, you can change.
And I think for Drew Brees, I don't think how
he personally feels about the flag may have necessarily changed,
but I think he is now more open to how
others may feel. And I think that was the big
thing when he was um chastised and criticized from everyone
when it came to what he said. I love that's

(02:37:50):
excellent point that I hadn't thought about that. Yes, he
may not have changed his feelings, but he understands others.
That's the key right there. He's Bucky Brooks. He's the man.
He really is. Amandy from an end Jonas Knocks, stand
by your man. That's next. She has his back. We'll
explain that in just about a minute, about eleven minutes
before the top of the hour. He is Buckey Brooks.
I'm Andy FERMANI for Jonas Knocks. And by the way,

(02:38:12):
at the top of the hour, which should be eight
pm on the East coast, my good friend Brian No.
I'll be with Brian No tomorrow morning at six a m. E.
Sometime Brian No and E from Salam will join you
at eight o'clock on the East coast on the I
Heart Radio app on Sirius xm Ad three and of
course I'm many of these same Fox Sports Radio affiliates
No and Salam coming up at the top of the hour.

(02:38:33):
But right now, before we roll into something of more importance,
I want to thank my good friend and my partner,
Bucky Brooks for allowing me to be with him. The
permission is just I love being with there, I really do.
Thank you. Thank Jonas Knocks for taking the night off.
And I was saying the entire stay at the Iowa,
Sam David Gascon, the gas man with the updates, and
of course our executive producer who puts it all together.

(02:38:55):
They want to only lead the lap the man behind
the scenes who makes it happen. So thank you all,
Thank you very very much. There we go. Yeah, I
appreciate you've done a great job. I love being with you.
You're great. By the way, this is interesting because you
talk about behind every successful man there's a woman, and
Mrs Tom Brady, Giselle Bunchin always had her husband Tom

(02:39:17):
Brady's back, and after the Super Bowl lost to the Eagles, uh,
the supermodel allegedly joined Tom Brady for a meeting with
the team owner Robert Kraft, and the topic of discussion
was then head coach Bill Belichick and Belichick's treatment of
Tom Brady. Nah, I ask you this. I mean, I
know you're not on the level of Tom Brady Bucky Brooks. However,

(02:39:40):
you've seen stars and play with superstars, or even if
you're a woman, did that? How embarrassed would you be
that a she did it and be it went public?
I mean, look, man, what what what? What? What? What?
What can you do like something that you just have
to like roll with? He? I mean, she she was.

(02:40:02):
She came out with both guns loaded. She said it
was bs to still be dressing down the most accomplished
quarterback in league history during team meetings and treating his
personal trainer and best friend like some kind of an outcast.
This is what she said. How did she know that
Belichick was dressing down her husband unless he came home
and cried to her. I don't know. I mean, that's
a little that's a little horror start cry. Yeah, man,

(02:40:24):
no one likes to be hammered, but their teacher, their
coach or whatever. And so even though he's the most accomplished, look, man,
that's hard when you're coached hard. And he was getting
coach hard. Well, yeah, when you hear this and see
these things going on, you may be able to understand
why he had that divorce and went to Tampa Bay because,
according to the report, late in seventeen, it was reported

(02:40:47):
that Bertie's longtime pal and his trainer, Alice Guerrero, had
been barred from the sideline and he was then banned
from the team charter. What purpose would I mean if
I got a guy like Tom Brady on my team,
I want to do a thing I can't to make
them happy? Why would you ban the guy from the sideline,
guys trainer. I don't get it. What's the point? Well,

(02:41:07):
I mean it's it's kind of unusual, that's more, I
would say, almost like an NBA thing. Like typically with
football teams, you don't have all these other people outside
the bubble on the squad and so your own personal
training and those things. Hey, that's great that he does
this stuff for you. Doesn't mean that he gets a
sideline pass, that he's given interests into everything into the building.
It's tough to ken, you know. How. Come on, have

(02:41:30):
you in your career in the National Football League seen
any player have their wife and or mistress and or
a girlfriend or a sidecar or whatever you want to
call it. Go to team management and complain about that guy.
I mean it happens. It's not ideal, and I mean

(02:41:53):
it happens. It's not ideal. Like ideally you would like
for the player to deal with it, because from the
management side, like you don't want to deal with someone
significant other, like, that's not the way you want to
deal with either the player or you want to deal
with his representative. Um it. It muddies up the water
when you have to deal with those incidents and and
the barbs coming from somebody's significant others. So ideally that's

(02:42:16):
not the perfect way to deal with it. And more
than that, the barb's coming maybe from players in the
locker room saying, Oh, your wife came in. She's kind
of negotiating for you. Now, what's going on? She wants
some of that and tells you could open up, but
tell me, give me one story that you've seen. Don't

(02:42:37):
your name. No, I'm just saying, like it happens, because
like UM, depending on the nature of the relationship, like UM,
sometimes it's a partnership and the partner is just an
invest in in the on field performance um as the player,
and so they feel like they need to voice and
and support and take a stand and do those things.
And so you will see some of those things happen.

(02:42:58):
And so looks not a perfect world, is not the
idea way to do it, but sometimes it happens. You
have to kind of deal with it accordingly. Yeah, And
the funny thing is, look, you're exactly right. This is
not the first time it happened. But I think what's
worse is not having it done. What's worse is having
a go public. That's worse. Okay, our time is up.
We want to thank you for you guys. I want
to thank you Bucky for having me with you as

(02:43:19):
a partner. No and Salon coming up, Nest right here, huh.
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